1 00:00:01,709 --> 00:00:05,699 swimming upstream in a river of mainstream diarrhoea. It's time 2 00:00:05,699 --> 00:00:09,509 for your weekly old guy gabfests known as no agenda coming to you 3 00:00:09,509 --> 00:00:12,749 from Gitmo nation east in southwest London in the United 4 00:00:12,749 --> 00:00:14,279 Kingdom. I'm Adam curry. 5 00:00:14,729 --> 00:00:17,729 I'm John C. Dvorak here. What was that the intro again? That's 6 00:00:17,729 --> 00:00:18,839 disgusting swimming 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,250 upstream or in a river of mainstream diarrhoea was meant 8 00:00:23,250 --> 00:00:24,030 to be graphic. 9 00:00:24,599 --> 00:00:31,109 I'm in northern Silicon Valley cringing, also known as get mo 10 00:00:31,109 --> 00:00:37,559 nation West. I'm reading this book on, I'm going okay guys. I 11 00:00:37,589 --> 00:00:40,739 found everyone's won by moving some boxes around right. So I 12 00:00:40,739 --> 00:00:45,119 find these old boxes of books including The Oakland Athletics, 13 00:00:45,179 --> 00:00:50,639 World Champions, information guide from 1990 and the 1997 14 00:00:50,639 --> 00:00:56,369 Zagat Zagat guide, and the restaurants have switched around 15 00:00:56,369 --> 00:01:01,019 quite a bit. I have to say, Nothing stays the same. 16 00:01:03,119 --> 00:01:08,099 And you've discovered this after X amount of years of living on 17 00:01:08,099 --> 00:01:10,289 this. This globe? 18 00:01:10,980 --> 00:01:13,080 Yeah, you think that there'd be more consistency? I think there 19 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:13,920 was in France. 20 00:01:15,780 --> 00:01:19,530 Why don't you move there good riddance to you. We're sick and 21 00:01:19,530 --> 00:01:25,020 tired of your crankiness What did what did not as sue me. What 22 00:01:25,020 --> 00:01:29,370 did she call you the other day? Buzzkill? everyone's favourite 23 00:01:29,370 --> 00:01:35,430 Buzzkill. But that was pretty funny. Yeah, it's funny that I 24 00:01:35,430 --> 00:01:37,500 saw your I saw your in Las Vegas. 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:39,480 Is that right? 26 00:01:40,380 --> 00:01:43,680 You didn't You didn't see me. VO thanks for watching my show. You 27 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,110 didn't see me do today. I watched the daily. Yeah, I'm 28 00:01:46,110 --> 00:01:47,730 sure you did. Well, then you would have known you were in Las 29 00:01:47,730 --> 00:01:49,680 Vegas. Yeah, no, I saw that. 30 00:01:51,870 --> 00:01:57,330 Last I was in Las Vegas. Last year. I thought it was it was it 31 00:01:57,330 --> 00:01:59,370 was actually there last year wondering Yeah, I didn't know. 32 00:01:59,580 --> 00:02:02,220 This was the member of the pinball Museum. You were you 33 00:02:02,220 --> 00:02:04,680 were harping on Right? Right. Right. Right, right. Yeah. Yeah, 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,620 that was the that was the report, but I just had to do a 35 00:02:07,620 --> 00:02:11,940 Quint box. I wanted to get all of our all of our reporters into 36 00:02:11,940 --> 00:02:13,890 one into one screen. 37 00:02:15,330 --> 00:02:18,120 Why would anybody go to that show in Las Vegas is baffling to 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:18,420 me. 39 00:02:19,170 --> 00:02:23,190 Well, I'm reading mixed reports. First of all, I agree. I mean, I 40 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:26,460 despise trade shows. I love watching them if they have 41 00:02:26,910 --> 00:02:30,240 straight I love watching keynotes on streams. I think 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,350 that's fantastic. 43 00:02:32,430 --> 00:02:34,020 See this keynotes and everything. You don't have to 44 00:02:34,020 --> 00:02:37,410 go? The the comes right into your bedroom. I mean, it's just 45 00:02:37,410 --> 00:02:40,050 like, why am I going to the keynote things, especially when 46 00:02:40,050 --> 00:02:44,010 they have big names like, even without Steve Jobs here at 47 00:02:44,010 --> 00:02:49,080 Macworld, which I did go to, in San Francisco. Even without 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,060 Steve Jobs at the keynote, I didn't go to the keynote, I 49 00:02:51,060 --> 00:02:54,840 never sold them do I people who went said it was a madhouse? 50 00:02:55,830 --> 00:02:57,000 Well, people scrambling, 51 00:02:57,630 --> 00:03:01,320 but tration to trade shows, of course, you know, they actually 52 00:03:01,350 --> 00:03:03,510 the trade shows that I've been to with my wife when she had her 53 00:03:03,510 --> 00:03:07,440 cosmetics company is essentially you're selling to stores, you 54 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,740 know, retail, you've got big buyers, it's a place where 55 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,520 buyers and sellers more at the wholesale level can get 56 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,910 together. And this This became a you know, a thing where 57 00:03:17,910 --> 00:03:20,580 consumers want to go because they could find the latest 58 00:03:20,580 --> 00:03:25,890 products, etc. And in fact, at the end of our stay in the 59 00:03:25,890 --> 00:03:29,520 Netherlands, when Patricia would do a trade show, you know, so 60 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,030 many people would come in to buy stuff that you know, eventually 61 00:03:33,030 --> 00:03:35,940 she said screw it, you know, I'm just gonna set up a booth which 62 00:03:35,940 --> 00:03:38,730 is really oriented towards people walk in the door and want 63 00:03:38,730 --> 00:03:41,940 to buy and was making, you know, huge amounts of money doing 64 00:03:41,940 --> 00:03:42,270 that. 65 00:03:42,809 --> 00:03:45,509 So the trade shows in the US don't allow that by the way. 66 00:03:45,780 --> 00:03:47,700 Oh, really? Hmm. 67 00:03:48,629 --> 00:03:50,639 I wonder what why is that? Why Why? Why? Well, 68 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,920 it has to do with the local business licencing 69 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,080 I do know that at all those trade shows the ASCAP BMI agents 70 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,200 are out and if you're playing music in your booth and they 71 00:04:01,410 --> 00:04:06,960 discreetly take you aside and hand you a bill really 72 00:04:08,550 --> 00:04:11,580 Yeah, that's that's what if you're playing podsafe music and 73 00:04:11,580 --> 00:04:13,770 wonder what happens when they take you aside and then you pull 74 00:04:13,770 --> 00:04:17,700 out the the little document saying what do you what are you 75 00:04:17,700 --> 00:04:18,330 kidding me? 76 00:04:21,029 --> 00:04:24,449 You know, I only wish that had happened when I was involved in 77 00:04:24,449 --> 00:04:27,599 podsafe music that would that sounds like a fight at with Adam 78 00:04:27,599 --> 00:04:31,199 curry written all over it sounds like something I'd love to get 79 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:31,709 into. 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,019 Yeah, cuz you know some of the stuff now. The podsafe music is 81 00:04:37,019 --> 00:04:40,799 obvious is very commercial. And I think a guy roaming around 82 00:04:40,799 --> 00:04:43,889 doing that pulling that stunt you know, trying to Nick people 83 00:04:43,889 --> 00:04:46,589 for ASCAP fees wouldn't know the difference. 84 00:04:46,709 --> 00:04:49,469 Oh, no, of course not. Well, a lot of some companies are now 85 00:04:49,469 --> 00:04:53,339 trying it you know, but these ASCAP BMI fuckers or you know, 86 00:04:53,339 --> 00:04:58,829 fill in your local your local letters here for whatever your 87 00:04:58,829 --> 00:05:02,429 country is. You They basically they have a God given right, but 88 00:05:02,459 --> 00:05:05,969 like looking at the law books, as you know, usually the sole 89 00:05:07,019 --> 00:05:10,679 company allowed to collect rights and their, you know, 90 00:05:10,679 --> 00:05:14,669 their their vision is, you know, well we'll take the money now 91 00:05:14,669 --> 00:05:17,909 and then we'll check it later. That's the kind of like IRS 92 00:05:17,909 --> 00:05:21,749 agents they're really quite frightening. And you get you 93 00:05:21,749 --> 00:05:23,789 always get the you know, there was a lawsuit recently some 94 00:05:23,789 --> 00:05:26,489 hairdresser who said, Hey, man, I'm playing this radio for me 95 00:05:26,489 --> 00:05:29,579 not for my clients. I'm playing shitty music they don't even 96 00:05:29,579 --> 00:05:33,749 want to listen to. So that's for me personally. Good try. 97 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:38,699 Didn't work. Now? Of course not. No. So looking at bill do they 98 00:05:38,699 --> 00:05:40,229 usually present people with 99 00:05:41,459 --> 00:05:44,129 it depends on the size of your booth. And they have 100 00:05:44,129 --> 00:05:49,079 calculations as to how many I mean, you'd be surprised how 101 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:51,899 much science there a or so called science, particularly 102 00:05:51,899 --> 00:05:54,929 when it comes to retail. I've known a number of restaurant 103 00:05:54,929 --> 00:05:57,899 tours and bar owners. And these guys will, you know, they'll 104 00:05:57,899 --> 00:06:02,009 literally come in and they will do a calculation based upon you 105 00:06:02,009 --> 00:06:04,979 know, whatever time they're in there the size of the venue, and 106 00:06:04,979 --> 00:06:07,169 then they'll go back and look at your tax records and said this, 107 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:11,729 you know, you're not, you're not paying enough tax in. Because 108 00:06:11,729 --> 00:06:15,209 you have to be selling more based upon what we've tracked. 109 00:06:15,209 --> 00:06:19,409 And the volume has to do the same with music. And so even if 110 00:06:19,409 --> 00:06:22,949 you have a workshop where you have the radio on you have to 111 00:06:22,949 --> 00:06:26,039 pay your ASCAP BMI dues, because you're effectively broadcast 112 00:06:26,069 --> 00:06:30,479 narrow casting to 10 people or whoever, however many people you 113 00:06:30,479 --> 00:06:31,079 have in there. 114 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:36,209 So let me get this straight. So I have a radio on in my little 115 00:06:36,719 --> 00:06:40,619 carpenter shop that has three people working in there. Yep, 116 00:06:40,650 --> 00:06:43,560 you eventually will get a visit if you don't pay have your own 117 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,040 accord. 118 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:50,670 Now, what if we had had the same three people and myself with a 119 00:06:50,670 --> 00:06:55,140 FM radio on our person? With headsets on listening to the 120 00:06:55,140 --> 00:06:59,040 same music on the same channel? That would be okay. So does that 121 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,930 make any sense to you? No. 122 00:07:03,060 --> 00:07:05,850 I think in general John, when it comes to rules, regulation, the 123 00:07:05,850 --> 00:07:09,000 government and the man I don't think a lot of that makes sense 124 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:09,570 to me. 125 00:07:11,490 --> 00:07:14,610 But I was gonna see buddies out there, I'm just gonna say if 126 00:07:14,610 --> 00:07:17,220 anybody's out there who has been hit with one of these bills, 127 00:07:17,220 --> 00:07:23,070 little small shops, or a retail environment or, or a hairdresser 128 00:07:23,070 --> 00:07:25,230 of arch, I think is where you're gonna run into this quite a bit. 129 00:07:26,370 --> 00:07:30,090 Would you send us a note and tell us what the give us the 130 00:07:30,090 --> 00:07:35,310 experience and what you were told to pay? And what came of it 131 00:07:35,310 --> 00:07:37,350 and we'll talk about it later. Or better 132 00:07:37,350 --> 00:07:40,020 yet, if you're listening right now, seeing as we're streaming 133 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:44,520 live, you can call into the chat room and, and I actually have 134 00:07:44,550 --> 00:07:47,220 everything jacked in today. So if we wanted to take a call we 135 00:07:47,220 --> 00:07:52,200 could story about the British music industry in the Financial 136 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,230 Times today in the weekend edition. So how much do you 137 00:07:55,230 --> 00:07:58,380 think? And this of course has nothing to do with what we just 138 00:07:58,380 --> 00:08:01,680 mentioned the performance writes, but what do you think 139 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,570 physical and digital sales did? 140 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,720 In his last year in the UK? Yeah, this 141 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,310 last year, it's down obviously from 2007. Although only 25 142 00:08:11,310 --> 00:08:12,300 million down. 143 00:08:14,430 --> 00:08:16,890 But they sold 100 123 million 144 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,100 120 $3 million worth of 145 00:08:20,220 --> 00:08:25,500 pounds pounds pounds worth now 123 million physical albums were 146 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:28,860 sold in the UK. So that's a lot more than $123 million, or 147 00:08:28,860 --> 00:08:32,880 pounds. Seeing Is that okay, yeah. So that is closer to like 148 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,800 seven or 800 billion a million. 149 00:08:35,309 --> 00:08:38,189 Didn't know when you used to sell a million albums. There was 150 00:08:38,189 --> 00:08:39,929 never became a gold or platinum. 151 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:44,310 Oh, these days? It's in some countries is 10,000. It's like, 152 00:08:44,340 --> 00:08:47,550 yeah, you wouldn't go oh, how am I sell 1000 units? 153 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,899 Tell me it's a scam? No, you 154 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:56,280 think, dude, I Patricia still has gold records that are 155 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,240 actually the mother masters that they use when they pressed 156 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,570 vinyl. And you can put these on a turntable. And if you play it 157 00:09:03,570 --> 00:09:06,480 backwards, because it's the mirror image, it is indeed the 158 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,480 song that that achieved the sales. It's really cool. 159 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,270 Although it's not so cool. As these were these things are so 160 00:09:12,270 --> 00:09:15,540 old, I had to take it out of the case to play it on a turntable, 161 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,660 and I couldn't get the casing back together. And that made my 162 00:09:18,660 --> 00:09:24,450 wife very angry. But but but it did play. I had played it 163 00:09:24,450 --> 00:09:27,120 backwards on a turntable and it was the actual saw. 164 00:09:28,620 --> 00:09:30,810 I think there's like proving the point. Yeah. Okay. 165 00:09:31,169 --> 00:09:32,969 Well, they don't do that anymore. I mean, now it's just a 166 00:09:32,969 --> 00:09:36,689 CD and like a plastic frame, you know, like congratulations. And 167 00:09:36,689 --> 00:09:40,439 they've given everybody every disc jockey and every promo guy, 168 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,839 the Secretary, everyone's got gold records. I don't mean 169 00:09:42,839 --> 00:09:46,019 anything like they used to. They used to mean something that was 170 00:09:46,019 --> 00:09:48,989 cool, you know, and the more you had here was the key is, 171 00:09:49,229 --> 00:09:52,289 particularly in the radio, business and station managers 172 00:09:52,289 --> 00:09:54,329 and programme directors and music directors are always 173 00:09:54,329 --> 00:09:58,469 getting these because it's the most informal form of bribery 174 00:09:58,469 --> 00:10:01,859 that is accepted. And the cool thing to do is to have them all 175 00:10:01,859 --> 00:10:04,109 stacked up against the wall. Don't have them hanging on the 176 00:10:04,109 --> 00:10:06,719 wall, but just have so many of them that they're just stacked 177 00:10:06,719 --> 00:10:09,359 in rows of 10 against the wall. Oh, yeah, man, you know, I got 178 00:10:09,359 --> 00:10:10,919 to hang those up one of these days, you know? 179 00:10:12,330 --> 00:10:13,470 That's what you got to do. 180 00:10:15,269 --> 00:10:20,009 Oh, yeah. So, weather wise, we are freezing our tits off here 181 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:22,499 in the United Kingdom. In US 182 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,779 cooking here in Northern California, God in 183 00:10:24,780 --> 00:10:27,570 the Netherlands there now they do this whenever it really, 184 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,660 really gets cold and I haven't heard this chatter for at least 185 00:10:30,690 --> 00:10:34,350 a decade. But then they start threatening with cranking up the 186 00:10:34,380 --> 00:10:40,860 11 city natural ice canal race, which is famous famous in the 187 00:10:40,860 --> 00:10:44,280 Netherlands. Where you know, it's all done and naturalised on 188 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,090 canals under and around bridges, and it's 11 cities, it's 189 00:10:48,090 --> 00:10:50,670 hundreds of kilometres. You know, people lose their, their 190 00:10:50,670 --> 00:10:54,960 toes, their fingers, their lives, but it's a it's a huge, 191 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,290 huge cultural deal, and I hope it happens again, but just goes 192 00:10:58,290 --> 00:11:00,780 to show that there's some funky going on. 193 00:11:01,980 --> 00:11:05,640 I know they do that in Ottawa city. course they don't know 194 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,320 it's not it's always freezing but this 195 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,080 is like hot. This is the legend of Hans Brinker in the silver 196 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,020 skates right this is what that is about. This is that story. 197 00:11:15,179 --> 00:11:18,209 So it freezes that bad that that that those all those canals get 198 00:11:18,209 --> 00:11:18,539 frozen 199 00:11:18,539 --> 00:11:21,389 over? Well, it hasn't it was only Well, you know, it was only 200 00:11:21,389 --> 00:11:24,599 one freezing over an hour or No, no, no, it's it's the freezing 201 00:11:24,599 --> 00:11:26,999 is really started now. So now everyone's talking about 202 00:11:26,999 --> 00:11:32,039 cranking up the competition. But the last time it had been a 203 00:11:32,039 --> 00:11:35,309 while until of course the Al Gore proclaimed global warming 204 00:11:35,309 --> 00:11:39,089 that's when you know, luckily we have the the 11 city yet canal 205 00:11:39,089 --> 00:11:39,959 race coming back. 206 00:11:41,220 --> 00:11:44,550 I reminded of the I've always said to people, you know, the 207 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:48,600 day that the term paperless office was coined. If you had 208 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,750 invested in paper mills, right, then you'd been making a 209 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:54,870 fortune, you would have made a fortune. Well, you know what my 210 00:11:54,870 --> 00:11:57,630 dad always says the paperless office is as likely as the 211 00:11:57,630 --> 00:11:58,560 paperless toilet. 212 00:11:59,910 --> 00:12:01,530 Which which I always thought was a good one. 213 00:12:02,010 --> 00:12:03,810 Yeah, well, they do exist in India. 214 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:07,350 Yes. And in other countries, 215 00:12:07,950 --> 00:12:12,300 so. So it's cold and you're getting freezing and you're 216 00:12:12,300 --> 00:12:15,120 getting snowing and I was up in the snowing this morning. Yeah. 217 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:17,550 It was snowing in London this morning. 218 00:12:17,579 --> 00:12:21,359 Yeah, flurries I mean, not like big, big snow. But sticking Yes. 219 00:12:21,389 --> 00:12:22,679 Oh, it's very cold. It's 220 00:12:23,220 --> 00:12:25,200 icy out. So Can people fall on their ass? 221 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:29,760 No, unfortunately, no, no. But if they can, then we have a good 222 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,210 shot. 223 00:12:32,610 --> 00:12:37,800 So was sunny here we were looking for some rain is 224 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,870 supposed to happen last week, nothing happened. It's just like 225 00:12:39,870 --> 00:12:44,100 right now it's clear. It's not a cloud in the sky. And I don't 226 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:46,950 know, it's probably going to be 70. Today, of course. Meanwhile, 227 00:12:46,950 --> 00:12:50,430 in Washington, they had this number of storms, a bunch of 228 00:12:50,430 --> 00:12:54,870 snow storms, and then ice storms and then some terrible rains 229 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:59,910 that have flooded in most of Washington State and smelt that 230 00:12:59,910 --> 00:13:02,940 all the snow of course, which makes it even worse, because it 231 00:13:02,940 --> 00:13:07,380 will have it with twice as much water. And and then that's just 232 00:13:07,380 --> 00:13:13,110 sweeping across the northern states in some horrible way. And 233 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:17,220 just I guess it's going to affect football games today. 234 00:13:18,929 --> 00:13:20,159 With football games. 235 00:13:20,820 --> 00:13:23,610 Well, there's a couple playoff games. I think one of them's 236 00:13:23,610 --> 00:13:30,990 being played in Baltimore, maybe or New York or someplace. I 237 00:13:30,990 --> 00:13:34,920 don't know who's, who's home and who's away. But I know there's 238 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,250 at least one or two going to be played back east, which means 239 00:13:38,250 --> 00:13:40,860 it'll be us football game in the snow. And we're talking about 240 00:13:40,860 --> 00:13:45,420 American football here for anyone you're listening in. And 241 00:13:45,420 --> 00:13:49,860 those are always usually great fun to watch. Because you know, 242 00:13:49,860 --> 00:13:54,600 the people slide around, they fall in there as if the ball 243 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,120 ever gets loose, which happens at least once or twice a game 244 00:13:57,390 --> 00:14:00,660 starts bouncing around as it becomes quite humorous to watch 245 00:14:00,660 --> 00:14:04,590 people try to grab it. And that could be fun. That 246 00:14:04,590 --> 00:14:07,470 reminds me Have you seen that it's floating around on YouTube. 247 00:14:07,470 --> 00:14:14,370 It was a mill, a military marine beach landing demonstration 248 00:14:14,370 --> 00:14:17,070 video, which of course the Royal Marines, the United Kingdom say 249 00:14:17,070 --> 00:14:20,160 it's not them, which is kind of weird because they're using 250 00:14:20,970 --> 00:14:24,570 British military machine guns. They have British military 251 00:14:24,570 --> 00:14:27,510 landing ships, they're wearing British military, marine 252 00:14:27,510 --> 00:14:31,470 uniforms. You know, it's basically the Royal Marines. And 253 00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:35,940 so they land on this beach. And then four guys jump out. This is 254 00:14:35,940 --> 00:14:38,820 a demonstration of how they do a beach landing. It was kind of 255 00:14:38,820 --> 00:14:42,840 Normandy esque if you will. And and the beach is completely 256 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,220 filled with mud. And these poor guys go face to face fall flat 257 00:14:47,220 --> 00:14:49,530 into the mud and they're stuck because they have so much gear 258 00:14:49,530 --> 00:14:52,650 they can't get out of the mud. And they just sit there 259 00:14:52,650 --> 00:14:55,260 struggling and they're trying to pull each other out and it's 260 00:14:55,260 --> 00:14:57,540 like the BIGGEST EMBARRASSMENT ever. 261 00:14:58,169 --> 00:15:00,539 No not seeing that. I'm gonna have to check it Yeah, 262 00:15:00,569 --> 00:15:03,599 I'll send you a link for that. It's funny. I shall mention it 263 00:15:03,599 --> 00:15:06,149 to the Queen by the way when I see her in February. 264 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:15,720 Oh, yeah. Yeah, so so he sends me a note which written read me 265 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,210 that you think that would have some calligrapher working for 266 00:15:18,210 --> 00:15:18,690 the queen and 267 00:15:18,690 --> 00:15:21,000 I just say I was quite disappointed by that as well. 268 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,760 We're referring to my invitation from the Queen to come visit her 269 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,580 at Buckingham Palace for a special reception for the 270 00:15:29,580 --> 00:15:36,930 relaunch of the Royal website@royal.gov.uk And so you 271 00:15:36,930 --> 00:15:39,150 know, it's a beautiful invitation. It's almost like a 272 00:15:39,150 --> 00:15:41,550 piece of wood John, this is not cardboard. I mean, it's like 273 00:15:41,550 --> 00:15:47,340 plywood. guilted plywood and, but my My name is just kind of 274 00:15:47,340 --> 00:15:48,810 written in in block letters. 275 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,240 Yeah, I mean, it looks like some of that looks like they hired 276 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,830 the handicap names and because I mean, you know, you think 277 00:15:55,830 --> 00:15:58,650 there'd be a royal calligrapher who would you know with a 278 00:15:58,650 --> 00:16:03,690 flourish right Adam curry you know in some of your very nice 279 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,020 manner and it looks like it was scratched in by some guy who 280 00:16:07,020 --> 00:16:07,770 barely writer 281 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:11,669 it's not that bad okay, it's not that 282 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:15,630 bad all on a sec small to it's like really small like the guy 283 00:16:15,630 --> 00:16:17,040 was just came out of prison. 284 00:16:17,490 --> 00:16:27,000 So So I RSVP to the master dot household yeah@royal.gsx.vk plus 285 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,460 one No, it's It's I got a parking pass and everything and 286 00:16:32,460 --> 00:16:39,090 it's quite clear photography mobile phones with photographic 287 00:16:39,090 --> 00:16:45,720 capabilities are to be not to be switched on. So I sent back 288 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,730 thank you for your kind invitation to the relaunch Oh 289 00:16:47,730 --> 00:16:50,310 ALLAH I'm happy to attend very much look forward to it and then 290 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:57,810 I got a recurrent return email from Lucy Regan that from the 291 00:16:57,810 --> 00:17:02,190 same website or email address, thank you very much for email. I 292 00:17:02,190 --> 00:17:05,130 am delighted that you are able to attend kind regards. 293 00:17:07,289 --> 00:17:10,019 And then there's a royal household legal disclaimer. 294 00:17:11,010 --> 00:17:12,210 Oh, really had to sign it? 295 00:17:12,420 --> 00:17:15,090 No, no just says this message and any attachment should only 296 00:17:15,090 --> 00:17:17,910 be read by those persons to whom it is addressed. You know, one 297 00:17:17,910 --> 00:17:18,360 of those 298 00:17:20,130 --> 00:17:22,140 Yeah, like that's going to do any you know, I did always 299 00:17:22,140 --> 00:17:25,830 amuses me. Lawyer came up with this. I remember when that first 300 00:17:25,830 --> 00:17:27,720 started, that was maybe 10 years ago. 301 00:17:28,140 --> 00:17:31,710 And some people have like, 20 paragraphs of shit below their 302 00:17:31,710 --> 00:17:32,370 emails. 303 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,350 Yeah. Right. I know. It's ludicrous. I should come up with 304 00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:41,040 one one of those really ridiculous ones like my terms of 305 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,530 service that I have on the blog. People should check that out. 306 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,240 And which goes on and on and on with all kinds of nonsense. 307 00:17:49,260 --> 00:17:52,020 What is what is our Bobby habits that aren't his emails? I bet 308 00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:53,670 you he has a whole shitload of stuff. 309 00:17:54,990 --> 00:17:59,610 I don't know. Let me say I got an email here from Bobby is our 310 00:17:59,610 --> 00:18:02,760 in house. Lawyer. Oh, yes. Nothing. 311 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:10,950 Literally nothing. It just Bobby. Fantastic. There you go. 312 00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:12,120 Bobby, you rock man. 313 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,190 I love that rain just went by I could see it down the hill was 314 00:18:17,190 --> 00:18:23,100 that it had a train just went by and it had all antique passenger 315 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:27,420 cars on it. Oh, pretty. where it's going. Every once in a 316 00:18:27,420 --> 00:18:31,260 while. I remember some every once in a while they have it 317 00:18:31,260 --> 00:18:34,560 always irks me that there's like no notice. Nobody seems to care 318 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,070 to tell anyone. I guess the local media doesn't think much 319 00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:41,010 of it every once in a while there's the Southern Pacific has 320 00:18:41,010 --> 00:18:46,740 a and I think Santa Fe does so they have this this historic old 321 00:18:46,740 --> 00:18:51,270 steam passenger train that they drive all over the place. It 322 00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:54,090 goes all over the country. And it's a big, you know, eight. 323 00:18:54,990 --> 00:18:57,930 driving wheels is a huge thing. And I've seen it I've seen it a 324 00:18:57,930 --> 00:19:01,590 couple times. And they never tell you when it's coming 325 00:19:01,590 --> 00:19:05,970 through when it's around but but when it's in the area, it's 326 00:19:06,300 --> 00:19:09,720 constantly honking it's steam whistle and it's very 327 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,050 distinctive. And so you go What the hell is that? And you go and 328 00:19:13,050 --> 00:19:16,560 you look and you see this antique steam train going 329 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:21,510 shooting down the road and down the track and you go What did 330 00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:24,000 how did it and then you look it up and you find it it was over 331 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,060 here for a week and people got to take a little rides in it and 332 00:19:27,060 --> 00:19:29,070 then you know and then of course nobody did because nobody knew 333 00:19:29,070 --> 00:19:32,250 him no one knew about it. Anyway, so just a gripe of mine. 334 00:19:34,050 --> 00:19:37,650 So I should I think though that when when I when I go to this 335 00:19:37,650 --> 00:19:41,610 reception with the queen, I need to be very sceptical of a number 336 00:19:41,610 --> 00:19:44,610 of things. A Why did they invite me other than to throw me in the 337 00:19:44,610 --> 00:19:45,150 tower? 338 00:19:47,070 --> 00:19:49,500 Maybe to bite you and we'll have one of the lizards by 339 00:19:50,399 --> 00:19:53,699 but you're the queen also started a podcast and Christmas 340 00:19:53,699 --> 00:19:54,779 2007. 341 00:19:55,439 --> 00:19:59,219 She did. Yeah. And how often does it run? 342 00:19:59,250 --> 00:20:03,660 Well This is the point that Stefano who sent me an email 343 00:20:03,660 --> 00:20:06,720 about my invitation, said you may have already noticed but it 344 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,450 might be worth noting that a podcast of the Queen's speeches 345 00:20:09,450 --> 00:20:12,030 had been set up two years ago but it's only been updated at 346 00:20:12,030 --> 00:20:15,450 Christmas. Oh seven and for her birthday six months after that, 347 00:20:15,450 --> 00:20:17,850 but nothing since including this past Christmas. 348 00:20:19,410 --> 00:20:21,150 Typical, huh? 349 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:24,360 So I'll have to make mention of that. Certainly, you're here to 350 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:27,000 tell me that you're also going to relaunch your podcast because 351 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,150 I'm severely you know, you being the fairy godmother me being the 352 00:20:30,150 --> 00:20:33,150 pod father, I think we should hook up and make some happen 353 00:20:33,330 --> 00:20:41,310 Your Royal Highness so the question is should I take along 354 00:20:41,310 --> 00:20:43,860 some this subject Well, should I should I take along some 355 00:20:43,860 --> 00:20:47,640 clandestine recording equipment and and record my encounter? 356 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:51,210 You mean put a wire on Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 357 00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:56,310 Well, you've done it before. Yeah. Yeah, 358 00:20:56,850 --> 00:20:58,770 I just wanted it would wonder if it's gonna I mean, it's easy, 359 00:20:58,770 --> 00:21:02,310 right? Because I just I just can take along a bag and just leave 360 00:21:02,310 --> 00:21:06,120 the bag wherever literally, I have my wireless lav on and I 361 00:21:06,150 --> 00:21:08,040 can clip that to the inside it'll work 362 00:21:10,350 --> 00:21:11,760 yeah, I would do it. 363 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,630 I mean, you didn't want to take in pictures they didn't say 364 00:21:15,630 --> 00:21:17,640 anything about recording well hottie 365 00:21:18,270 --> 00:21:21,390 Yeah. That would be the technical right answer while 366 00:21:21,390 --> 00:21:26,430 they're throwing me in the break the tower hey man is like You 367 00:21:26,430 --> 00:21:29,640 only said no pictures didn't mention recording equipment. 368 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,490 Okay, that's it. I'm doing it 369 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,039 well, maybe they'll let you know the problem is they're gonna 370 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:40,229 probably go you first you gotta realise they're gonna pat you 371 00:21:40,229 --> 00:21:40,649 down. 372 00:21:41,940 --> 00:21:44,550 He I don't know if they're going to pat me down you think so? 373 00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:47,460 Now I think they're going to walk it to shit. Yeah, they're 374 00:21:47,460 --> 00:21:48,600 gonna walk you through this. 375 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,060 People breaking into the Queen's bedroom all the time. There's 376 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:52,650 like no security, there's no makes it 377 00:21:52,859 --> 00:21:54,959 worse once something like that happens they get even more 378 00:21:54,959 --> 00:21:58,109 freaky. So they're gonna walk it through a metal detector because 379 00:21:58,229 --> 00:22:00,749 obviously the fact that you were invited and you're not like a 380 00:22:00,749 --> 00:22:03,959 regular at Buckingham Palace that I know that you know of 381 00:22:03,959 --> 00:22:07,109 Yes. That you're you know, you're likely with the hoi 382 00:22:07,109 --> 00:22:10,409 polloi. And there's probably a lot of others like you. And so 383 00:22:10,409 --> 00:22:12,899 they're going to bring you in through a metal detector and 384 00:22:12,899 --> 00:22:15,269 then there's going to be some goons who are probably 385 00:22:15,269 --> 00:22:17,969 humourless and they're going to pat you down. 386 00:22:20,340 --> 00:22:28,440 Let me let me see what the invitation says. Exactly. It's, 387 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,140 it's but it is kind of I mean, just the envelope and everything 388 00:22:31,140 --> 00:22:35,190 in it is really cool. Okay, so I have like a parking pass that 389 00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:41,940 says Am I It has big big pink letters Am I that's what you 390 00:22:41,940 --> 00:22:44,790 have to put in the lower right hand corner of your windscreen? 391 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,670 Am I Mission Impossible is what it is. But I have an entry card 392 00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:53,550 oh this is nicely printed Mr. Adam curry pre please bring this 393 00:22:53,550 --> 00:22:57,480 card with you. Security. In addition to this entry card, 394 00:22:57,510 --> 00:23:00,450 would you please bring photographic identification with 395 00:23:00,450 --> 00:23:04,020 EU passport photo driving licences ideal this will be 396 00:23:04,020 --> 00:23:06,630 checked on arrival arrival and parking please display the 397 00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:09,570 display the enclosed label on your windscreen before arriving 398 00:23:09,570 --> 00:23:13,020 parking is available. Cameras and telephones photography is 399 00:23:13,020 --> 00:23:16,350 not permitted mobile phones must be switched off. And then 400 00:23:16,350 --> 00:23:19,800 there's EU then there's a whole nother the following information 401 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,660 about the reception may be helpful security. Please note 402 00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:27,120 carefully the security information shown on the reverse 403 00:23:27,150 --> 00:23:30,570 of the enclosed entry card which you must bring with you the 404 00:23:30,570 --> 00:23:33,510 invitation entry card are for the named guests only and are 405 00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:37,290 non transferable. And there's information about arrival and 406 00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:42,180 his how to get to Buckingham Palace. Correspondence 407 00:23:42,210 --> 00:23:45,450 additional information doesn't say anything about recording 408 00:23:45,570 --> 00:23:48,720 about audio or video for that matter. 409 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:54,000 Well, there you have it. Yeah. Okay. So you're still gonna get 410 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,720 patted down. 411 00:23:56,609 --> 00:23:59,549 Then I'll just say, Oh, I'm sorry. I'm gonna 412 00:23:59,550 --> 00:24:01,890 have to you know, just put it in you know, put it you know, 413 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,060 where's it's not a problem. 414 00:24:03,090 --> 00:24:07,770 Well, I can just put the I have the i What is it i Eight 899 or 415 00:24:07,770 --> 00:24:10,290 whatever the I River, it has a built in mic. I can just slip it 416 00:24:10,290 --> 00:24:13,920 into my breast pocket. And then yes, it's my mp3 player. Yeah, 417 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,500 that'll work. Yeah. And then whatever we get, we get and we 418 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:19,740 get nothing then we got nothing. Right. Which can happen. Yeah, 419 00:24:19,770 --> 00:24:23,070 quite likely. Considering my sound engineering capabilities 420 00:24:23,070 --> 00:24:24,840 of last week. Anything could hell yes. 421 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:25,770 Let's talk about that. Oh, 422 00:24:25,770 --> 00:24:27,450 let's not that's that's pretty sucky. 423 00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:31,980 I got a whole bunch of notes about it. Yeah. 424 00:24:32,820 --> 00:24:36,150 So it would have been, you know, to have sound fuckup one out of 425 00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:40,830 64 episodes, or really, if you think about it over 900 combined 426 00:24:40,830 --> 00:24:43,320 with all the daily source code episodes, I've done, probably 427 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,370 over 1000 of shows I've done. That's acceptable, but to have 428 00:24:47,370 --> 00:24:51,990 me gloating and pontificating about how great this is. While 429 00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:55,290 it sounds like yeah, which is absolute shit, although we did 430 00:24:55,290 --> 00:24:58,380 pick up a whole bunch of listeners in the Middle East. 431 00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:05,640 Apparently, you because they all like it, they look at their 432 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,040 sound, they're like, hey, finally a show for us. That's 433 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,460 cool this podcast and got something to it. Um, do like 434 00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:13,560 come over here listen to this. This is a great show 435 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:21,209 I got some guy or when I mentioned that said, like Arab 436 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:26,939 radio. Oh, la MIDI admitted that there was some stations that 437 00:25:26,939 --> 00:25:33,809 sounded like that most most also sounds like Mexican Mexican 438 00:25:33,809 --> 00:25:35,399 radio has that quality. 439 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:41,490 So I got to talk. I got to talk with you about UFOs because 440 00:25:41,550 --> 00:25:44,460 there are two things and two things that happened. This past 441 00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:48,090 week. One of them I saw you blogged about the This happened 442 00:25:48,090 --> 00:25:52,050 in the UK that apparently a UFO with tentacles 443 00:25:53,850 --> 00:25:55,620 that's the Flying Spaghetti Monster 444 00:25:55,619 --> 00:26:02,279 flying spaghetti monster hit a wind turbine and broke it. At 445 00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:06,869 the same time this is this is actually from this must be an AP 446 00:26:06,869 --> 00:26:07,739 story. It's coming from 447 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:10,590 why they don't want wind turbines really 448 00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:19,500 spaced out. Rate. Mystery roar from faraway space detected Have 449 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:20,700 you heard about this? 450 00:26:20,970 --> 00:26:23,190 No, no, tell me. This is 451 00:26:23,580 --> 00:26:30,540 NASA. And see Alan Cogan of NASA's Goddard Goddard Space 452 00:26:30,540 --> 00:26:32,880 Flight Centre in Greenbelt, Maryland, something new and 453 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,560 interesting is going on in the universe. I love that. We're so 454 00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:42,390 they listen to space. And normally, it just kind of sounds 455 00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:47,160 like nothing. But apparently they're picking up loud roaring 456 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,780 noises now and they're not quite sure what it is. But considering 457 00:26:51,780 --> 00:26:58,200 my disappointment of the of the first contact of October, and so 458 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,430 much mainstream media attention being paid to stuff like this 459 00:27:02,430 --> 00:27:05,970 stupid Spaghetti Monster hitting the wind turbine and no, we've 460 00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:09,420 got space sounds from outer space. And Obama wants to 461 00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:12,510 accelerate and put us on the moon like Didn't we already see 462 00:27:12,510 --> 00:27:15,930 that movie before? But anyway, we're gonna get on the moon. I'm 463 00:27:15,930 --> 00:27:16,530 thinking 464 00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:19,140 that Obama's a fractal of Kennedy. 465 00:27:19,170 --> 00:27:23,130 Right? Well, he it Well, here's the here's the scenario. The 466 00:27:23,130 --> 00:27:25,650 scenario is, you know, of course, there's more and more 467 00:27:25,650 --> 00:27:30,480 dissent coming from amongst the slaves saying, wait a minute 468 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,750 global warming. Yeah, okay, we got to protect Earth. But hold 469 00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:36,450 on a second. What are all these taxes for this unproven theory 470 00:27:36,450 --> 00:27:40,590 of yours. And what they're going to do next is they're going to 471 00:27:40,590 --> 00:27:44,640 have space aliens communicate to us and tell us that we're 472 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,250 killing our world and carbon credits are good for us. 473 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,230 Something like that is in the works. 474 00:27:51,780 --> 00:27:55,260 Like it? Yeah, I mean, I can be a hard one to pull off. 475 00:27:56,490 --> 00:27:57,360 Are you kidding me? If 476 00:27:57,540 --> 00:28:03,180 a maniac would would think that that could work? Okay, I am an 477 00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:06,030 artist space and we must tell you Earth names. 478 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,620 I look at I look at Rama Manuel and I think, yeah, he could make 479 00:28:10,620 --> 00:28:12,420 it up. He could do it. 480 00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:17,670 He could be an alien for all we know. No should. He has a funny 481 00:28:17,670 --> 00:28:18,330 look about him. 482 00:28:19,470 --> 00:28:23,160 Like Hebrew reading more and more cynicism in the papers here 483 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,970 about Obama. 484 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:27,930 But because there's nothing else to write about. Sarah Palin is 485 00:28:27,930 --> 00:28:30,810 not in the news anymore. So they got to focus their attention on 486 00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:33,750 somebody and the Republicans have all you know, scurried 487 00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:35,700 away. And 488 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,520 so what's left? 489 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,740 Now there's gonna be a lot more, you know, Obama's the wedding's 490 00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:45,330 over honeymoon. The 491 00:28:45,330 --> 00:28:50,670 honeymoon is over here. So now he's he's gearing up to hit a 492 00:28:50,670 --> 00:28:55,770 trillion plus. And what is it a million jobs? 600,000 A million. 493 00:28:55,770 --> 00:28:57,120 I keep seeing different numbers. 494 00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:59,429 Yeah, who knows? Yeah, doing what? 495 00:29:01,050 --> 00:29:03,870 Building bridges and roads that we're not going to 496 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,930 get rid of Sarbanes Oxley, and you'll get your million jobs 497 00:29:06,930 --> 00:29:09,450 back right now. Yeah, no, no, it 498 00:29:09,450 --> 00:29:13,650 is quite the opposite. Today. The finance ministers are 499 00:29:13,650 --> 00:29:17,280 meeting to come up with new regulation. This is happening as 500 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,330 we speak. So the new Sarbanes Oxley is being implemented along 501 00:29:21,330 --> 00:29:22,950 with whatever else are cooking up. 502 00:29:26,940 --> 00:29:29,490 So do you might digit you've been following the Madoff thing, 503 00:29:29,490 --> 00:29:30,570 right? Yeah. 504 00:29:30,570 --> 00:29:34,260 The 170 $3 million worth of checks in his in his drawer. 505 00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:39,120 Well, I didn't get that one. Oh, really? He's got $173 million. 506 00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:40,050 Where the checks? 507 00:29:40,290 --> 00:29:44,820 Yeah, I got the article right here. This is hilarious. What he 508 00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:49,050 what he, he demanded about I guess was about two or three 509 00:29:49,050 --> 00:29:54,750 weeks before his his sons gave him up. He didn't end well. This 510 00:29:54,750 --> 00:29:58,050 the way they printed you know, he demanded 100 million pounds 511 00:29:58,050 --> 00:30:02,760 be transferred from the UK off This to the to the US office. 512 00:30:03,450 --> 00:30:10,620 And and so that 100 wall 100 Millions about $173 million in 513 00:30:10,620 --> 00:30:14,280 checks, investigators found in his desk drawer 514 00:30:17,070 --> 00:30:19,740 was better organised than that, though, 515 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,410 this is fantastic. And I predict that this is going to unfold 516 00:30:25,410 --> 00:30:28,980 right into Citi Group and city is going to come crashing down 517 00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:32,130 on the heels of this made off thing. I mean, it's there's so 518 00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:35,400 much tied up in here and that Citi Group is such a black box 519 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,090 that no one understands and what the guy just quit. Let me see 520 00:30:39,090 --> 00:30:43,500 what was his name? The big board member, the guy, the guy who was 521 00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:45,840 responsible for all of it, the fuck is his name? 522 00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:50,460 Well, here's what you're looking at. The thing that I find 523 00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:53,370 interesting is that it turns out at least some people believe 524 00:30:53,370 --> 00:30:58,800 this. That the that one of the big investors in his scheme, 525 00:30:59,340 --> 00:31:05,760 Ponzi scheme, to the tune of about $2 billion is the Russian 526 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,420 mafia. 527 00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:12,240 Go Yeah. Oh, yeah. Not only Robert Rubin. 528 00:31:12,930 --> 00:31:14,670 Oh, yeah. Robert Rubin. Right. 529 00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:18,450 He's quitting Citigroup after 10 years listen to his resume. 530 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:25,620 Former US Treasury secretary. To who? To the United States. 531 00:31:25,949 --> 00:31:27,269 No. to who? What President? 532 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:29,070 Oh, to which president? Ah, 533 00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:30,900 it's a good question, Clint. And I believe Yeah, 534 00:31:30,930 --> 00:31:34,080 I think you're right. I think you're right. Yes. 535 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,690 He went, Oh, he Oh, of course, he ran Goldman Sachs. Gee, you 536 00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:43,170 think that club is small? Before joining the Clinton 537 00:31:43,170 --> 00:31:45,990 administration? I mean, is it clear to people now that Goldman 538 00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:48,930 Sachs, the most hated firm on Wall Street? First of all, we 539 00:31:48,930 --> 00:31:51,420 understand why they were hated because they were playing a 540 00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:55,920 whole different game. All those all those treasury secretaries 541 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:01,950 come from Goldman Sachs. They keep giving money to Goldman 542 00:32:01,950 --> 00:32:05,160 Sachs. And when when when will people catch? It's like Hello, 543 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,840 don't you see what's going on here? 544 00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:10,680 It's pretty funny that they keep getting away with this, like 545 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,630 Lucy and the football. It's unbelievable. 546 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,170 I've had so many blue collar guys around the house for the 547 00:32:16,170 --> 00:32:19,830 past month, almost. And eventually they'll say, what are 548 00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:22,920 you in the music business? Is because they see I got like 549 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,740 guitars and of course I got a lot of equipment. And they said 550 00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:30,600 no, no, I'm I'm involved in propaganda. And they love it. 551 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,940 Right? Well, really, really? You know, and I'll show him a couple 552 00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:35,550 of videos or I'll tell him and start talking some shit. And 553 00:32:35,550 --> 00:32:38,400 it's funny because sometimes more often than not, actually 554 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,700 these guys are right in step with him. And I always asked him 555 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:45,210 the same question. So why aren't you doing it? Aren't you pissed 556 00:32:45,210 --> 00:32:49,200 off? So yeah, somehow we gave up. That's what they all say we 557 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,540 Yeah, that's kind of where we are just taking it up the ass we 558 00:32:51,540 --> 00:32:56,580 just kind of give up. And, but I think they're gonna crack I 559 00:32:56,580 --> 00:33:01,110 think that the Brits will will will crack sooner. Well, that's 560 00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:04,410 shit. There's 10s of 1000s of people throwing shoes at the 561 00:33:04,410 --> 00:33:07,410 Israeli embassy here, which is, I think is fancy. What a great 562 00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:10,170 name. And so, yeah, 563 00:33:10,290 --> 00:33:13,740 it's great. Yeah, that one guy doesn't know what he said off 564 00:33:13,740 --> 00:33:14,970 the shoes. He's a hero. 565 00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:18,150 What a fantastic meme. You know, and you see these pictures of, 566 00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:23,880 you know, Adidas, Nikes, Manolo Blahniks, you know, all kinds of 567 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,530 shoes just laying in front of the embassy. But nothing at all 568 00:33:28,530 --> 00:33:32,130 on the six o'clock news, not not a single clip, not a single 569 00:33:32,130 --> 00:33:33,450 mention whatsoever. 570 00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:37,170 Really? You mean? Nothing? I mean, the shoe thing is, I 571 00:33:37,170 --> 00:33:39,270 wonder if that's going on around here? Because of course, we'd be 572 00:33:39,270 --> 00:33:42,750 the last to know. Well, you've got you have riots in Oakland? 573 00:33:43,380 --> 00:33:45,900 Yeah, well, the riots in Oakland are covered pretty well covered 574 00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:49,110 because it has to do with a cop killer or a cop shooting a young 575 00:33:49,140 --> 00:33:54,420 defenceless guy. And, and it's good everybody up in arms. And 576 00:33:54,420 --> 00:33:54,990 you know, 577 00:33:55,649 --> 00:33:58,859 this is exactly what started off the riots in Athens, which by 578 00:33:58,859 --> 00:34:01,379 the way, you're not hearing about man. And it's like, 579 00:34:01,379 --> 00:34:04,829 there's 20,000 people at a time are demonstrating this is really 580 00:34:04,829 --> 00:34:05,489 big. 581 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,030 Yeah, I don't think this is going to trigger an Athens style 582 00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:13,500 riot. There's a couple of problems. One, it's in Oakland. 583 00:34:13,650 --> 00:34:17,040 Yeah. And that's kind of like the end of it, or just because 584 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,400 they don't have an acropolis. Definitely, I'm an acropolis and 585 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:25,110 it's not the capital of anything. So it's a capital of 586 00:34:25,110 --> 00:34:30,540 bad football. So surrounding me, which is I think he's just 587 00:34:30,540 --> 00:34:33,930 gonna, you know, boil down but it's interesting that these guys 588 00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:39,360 are recognising the fact that they're not taking action and 589 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,820 they're just passively putting up with crap is the group to 590 00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:51,030 Brits, you know, that stood firm against Hitler. Now, they can't 591 00:34:51,150 --> 00:34:52,980 get out of their own way and they're getting pushed around by 592 00:34:52,980 --> 00:35:01,740 their own people. Yeah. Well, So anyway, back to the meme. So I 593 00:35:01,740 --> 00:35:05,460 don't know that we're not seeing the shoe thing happening around 594 00:35:05,460 --> 00:35:08,550 here. Because you wouldn't it wouldn't get covered. Probably 595 00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:11,010 the same thing is happening there as interesting though, is 596 00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:14,580 bloggers covering the shoes being thrown. You know, I don't 597 00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:17,460 think this could be the next big thing for any kind of 598 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,140 any to any type of civil unrest or protest. It's a beautiful 599 00:35:22,140 --> 00:35:25,710 gesture. It's just absolutely beautiful. You get it, you know, 600 00:35:25,710 --> 00:35:29,040 it's like, even though it's not in our culture, to have the 601 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,950 bottom of your soul showing this to be seen as insulting, which 602 00:35:31,950 --> 00:35:35,940 is, you know, it's very Asian cultural thing. And I didn't 603 00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:38,880 know about the shoe throwing actually being a large insult, 604 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,420 but doesn't matter. It's, it's so clear to you like, Yeah, I'm 605 00:35:42,420 --> 00:35:47,220 throwing my shoes at you. That's how much I hate you. And Finn, 606 00:35:47,220 --> 00:35:49,770 it feels good. I mean, granted, if you have an extra pair of 607 00:35:49,770 --> 00:35:51,840 shoes, it feels even better when you walk away. 608 00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:56,580 But yeah, everybody's got a pair. Let's face it. I've got 609 00:35:56,580 --> 00:35:59,610 some sitting around here. Everybody has a pair of crappy 610 00:35:59,610 --> 00:36:02,040 shoes that you may have had repaired and you're willing to 611 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,700 throw it the government. You're Yeah. And they're, they're so 612 00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,430 far gone. I have a pair that is so comfortable. I still wear 613 00:36:08,430 --> 00:36:11,430 them once a while, but they're shot. And it's like, you know, 614 00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:13,860 I'm gonna have to throw them away eventually. Why should I 615 00:36:13,860 --> 00:36:24,900 just throw them away? When I can throw them at? Ya. Excuse me? 616 00:36:26,730 --> 00:36:29,850 Because I'm sure they could like do DNA testing on all issues and 617 00:36:29,850 --> 00:36:31,560 identify every person individually. 618 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,360 Yeah, well, how much further do they have to go and everything's 619 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,080 so tidy now. It's it's phenomenal to see it to see how 620 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,910 things are happening here. So I've had the wonderful 621 00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:45,690 experience of setting up. So I had the BT broadband line in the 622 00:36:45,690 --> 00:36:47,910 new house. couple interesting things. 623 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:48,960 Why are you on it now? 624 00:36:48,990 --> 00:36:54,630 Yeah, I'm on it now. Yeah. So one is, you cannot set up your 625 00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:58,890 own easily. Let me rephrase that. If you use their hub, you 626 00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:01,830 cannot easily set up your own VoIP connection because they 627 00:37:01,830 --> 00:37:04,560 have their own VoIP service. And you know, there's certainly no 628 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,700 clear way to set it to something else. But more interestingly, 629 00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:12,450 now, I use Gmail. So all my mail goes through Port 80, kind of 630 00:37:12,450 --> 00:37:17,580 accepted web type traffic, Patricia uses Apple's email, and 631 00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:20,430 she just got used to it. And I never want to confuse her and 632 00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:22,710 just let her use whatever she wants to use. But of course, one 633 00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:25,440 of the things you you bumped into if you're not using, you 634 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,810 know, now that we've basically switched providers to British 635 00:37:27,810 --> 00:37:31,200 Telecom, is that you have to deal with little little 636 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,780 annoyances like the SMTP server, which is what you have to set in 637 00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:40,380 order to be able to send mail from an email programme. Not 638 00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:44,070 such a big deal. Interesting, though, that British Telecom 639 00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:49,140 will not let you use any other SMTP server. But there's so 640 00:37:49,170 --> 00:37:52,050 there's the trap. There's the there's the syphon. There's the 641 00:37:52,050 --> 00:37:52,620 hose. 642 00:37:54,510 --> 00:37:57,570 Right, everything has to go through central control. Yeah. 643 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,020 Yeah. So they could be monitoring all the email. 644 00:38:01,470 --> 00:38:04,080 Well, they're going to be monitoring the email as of 645 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,930 March. That's when it starts a little Right, right. Yeah, 646 00:38:06,930 --> 00:38:09,780 they're already starting. It's all of your email. All your 647 00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:12,600 phone calls all your text messages, although they say not 648 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,860 the content of the text messages and the phone call he had right. 649 00:38:18,210 --> 00:38:23,550 Only the information who who communicated with who? Yeah. 650 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:27,780 Yeah, well, they can map out people's relationships that way. 651 00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:30,150 I saw that programme some years ago, as a matter of fact, 652 00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:34,800 Interpol developed it. And they were demoing it at a thing I was 653 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:41,580 visit or event I went to, and it's very interesting, because 654 00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:44,010 they showed how you can identify, you know, who's the, 655 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,700 you know, the, the first day decided to isolate, I think 50 656 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:51,900 people that were suspected of being in a MA in a organised 657 00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:56,700 crime family. And then they showed in the, there's a circle, 658 00:38:57,060 --> 00:39:00,780 and then they show the, they start to track the calls from 659 00:39:00,780 --> 00:39:02,850 this person, to that person to this person to that person, and 660 00:39:02,850 --> 00:39:08,220 they have some sort of analysis algorithm that can then identify 661 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:13,050 the cause with length of call and who's calling who they are. 662 00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:16,200 And you have to do a lot of it. I mean, you can't just do five 663 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,560 minutes, you have to just track these things forever. And then 664 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,950 you get a few after a few 1000 calls, then they stopped it and 665 00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:25,680 they say here's the here's the way we see the structure of the 666 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,740 organisation, and they had, here's the Godfather, the head 667 00:39:28,740 --> 00:39:33,510 guy, here's his, you know, his minions, his main, go to guys, 668 00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:37,500 and then here's all the Stooges that are out in the field. And 669 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:39,690 it was like it was it looked pretty clear. That's exactly 670 00:39:39,690 --> 00:39:41,940 what it was. And I think, obviously, it's what they're up 671 00:39:41,940 --> 00:39:42,120 to. 672 00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:47,940 Yeah, you know, they could just subscribe to my LinkedIn, it 673 00:39:47,940 --> 00:39:51,990 will be probably easier and more efficient. We're just looking at 674 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:59,670 my Facebook account. So who was the current Secretary of State 675 00:39:59,670 --> 00:40:02,070 for the US I'd states who is that's Condoleezza Rice still 676 00:40:02,070 --> 00:40:02,460 right? 677 00:40:02,730 --> 00:40:04,080 As far as I know Yeah. 678 00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:07,260 Because in all because where she and all of this and by the way, 679 00:40:07,290 --> 00:40:13,110 where is our coming Secretary of State Clinton? Where is she? I'm 680 00:40:13,110 --> 00:40:14,070 just referring to Israel and 681 00:40:14,070 --> 00:40:16,080 Gaza they haven't heard from either one of them think about 682 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:16,290 it. 683 00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:19,799 Neither one neither right nor Clint gather they're off 684 00:40:19,799 --> 00:40:23,399 together. Oh, man, can you imagine that porn movie? 685 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,030 Well, that could make some money Clinton does rice. 686 00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:32,760 That's like got everything in it. Right down to foot fetish I 687 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,680 mean it that's that's a perfect. Possible we laugh about the porn 688 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,090 industry bailout, which Larry Flynt and now with the guy, Joe 689 00:40:42,090 --> 00:40:46,020 Francis from Girls Gone Wild, which they jokingly, I presume, 690 00:40:46,020 --> 00:40:50,130 requested, or are talking about funny. Yeah. But I actually got 691 00:40:50,130 --> 00:40:56,670 an email from Patricia's porn friend, Bobby Eaton. She's, uh, 692 00:40:56,700 --> 00:41:01,740 she's like a, like a real porn star. And she's in the middle of 693 00:41:01,740 --> 00:41:06,690 an aeroplane, whatever. And, and she sent me an email, she said, 694 00:41:06,690 --> 00:41:08,910 you know, we're talking, I'm talking with my business 695 00:41:08,910 --> 00:41:11,640 partners, you know, because it's a times are kind of tough and 696 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,120 sales are really down and we're blog is long story short, whoa, 697 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,400 I found out you're the guy that knows a lot about podcasting. 698 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,370 What do you think about podcasting? And I'm like, Yes, I 699 00:41:20,370 --> 00:41:23,250 think that we need to have a meeting. I definitely think a 700 00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:24,030 meeting is an order. 701 00:41:30,210 --> 00:41:34,170 Yeah, yeah. Well, let me know how that meeting goes. Yeah, no, 702 00:41:34,170 --> 00:41:37,350 I will. I will. She's probably working for MI five. 703 00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:41,580 So us and you're here it is US and European banking chiefs 704 00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:46,710 converge today in Basel. For behind the scenes meeting. I 705 00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:49,950 love that behind the scenes meeting with central bankers and 706 00:41:49,950 --> 00:41:54,390 regulators to discuss the post crisis regulatory framework. 707 00:41:55,740 --> 00:41:58,980 Nice. Oh, of course, the gathering hosted by the Bank for 708 00:41:58,980 --> 00:42:02,400 International Settlements. This it is really happening. Oh, it 709 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,780 is gonna make hitmen. It is really taking place as we were 710 00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:11,730 just reading it in the news. And I even saw, I even saw an ad and 711 00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:15,510 I mean, the Financial Times it's better than the National 712 00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:20,280 Enquirer. It's funnier. Here it is. So it's a one page ad it's 713 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,070 their own is their own paper. So they're advertising, you know, 714 00:42:23,070 --> 00:42:28,500 to subscribe to ft.com. And View from the Top Video Russia 715 00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:33,060 Ukraine gas dispute. And here Tony Blair video, former UK 716 00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:38,430 Prime Minister on the new financial order. I mean, come 717 00:42:38,430 --> 00:42:42,870 on. Did you hear about his medal of honour? That's the that's the 718 00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:46,890 big thing here. In the UK, everyone's for what? Well, 719 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,360 George Bush gave him the the highest order in the land, the 720 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:57,480 medal of honour, for his stellar work in the invasion of Iraq 721 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,950 based upon the lie of weapons of mass destruction. And the big 722 00:43:01,950 --> 00:43:04,800 joke here is that the metal doesn't actually exist. It gets 723 00:43:04,830 --> 00:43:08,490 it's meant to be designed specifically for him. And so 724 00:43:08,490 --> 00:43:11,400 everyone's coming up with these really goofy ideas. You can only 725 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:16,380 imagine, right? What the ideas are. But it's just the guy got 726 00:43:16,380 --> 00:43:18,840 this. He doesn't even want to show up to receive it. I mean, 727 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,630 can you imagine? Can you just imagine these war criminals 728 00:43:21,630 --> 00:43:24,090 handing each other metals? It's amazing. 729 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,420 I like the metals thing. Are they handed to you? They love 730 00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:33,150 handing out metals to these stooges. It's pretty funny. 731 00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:33,480 Yeah. 732 00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:36,780 So Tony Blair needs to get his Iron Cross, and then he can go 733 00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:38,250 on with whatever he's doing. 734 00:43:39,210 --> 00:43:42,870 I think that's a great idea for a contest, though. You get a lot 735 00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:43,860 of mileage from it. And 736 00:43:44,730 --> 00:43:48,390 let's design Tony Blair's Presidential Medal of honour, 737 00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:54,990 congressional medal of honour, whatever it is. It's funny. 738 00:43:56,010 --> 00:43:57,930 Yeah. Well, we didn't hear about that here either. 739 00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:01,920 Well, there were three people who were really slow, because 740 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,400 you know, there hasn't been any good celebrity news. And I guess 741 00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:05,910 you know, 742 00:44:05,970 --> 00:44:08,520 what you heard about the German banker who killed himself? 743 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,020 Probably I think I blogged it. Yeah. 744 00:44:13,050 --> 00:44:16,410 Adolf Merkel. Yeah. Merkel. Yeah, you know, do you think 745 00:44:16,410 --> 00:44:17,310 he's related? I 746 00:44:17,310 --> 00:44:19,620 can only find one picture of that guy talking about a guy you 747 00:44:19,620 --> 00:44:22,290 couldn't I was wondering whether it's related to Merkel herself 748 00:44:22,290 --> 00:44:26,310 exactly my question. And I couldn't find any documentation 749 00:44:26,310 --> 00:44:29,070 for them either. Wouldn't surprise me though, and I 750 00:44:29,070 --> 00:44:31,920 couldn't find any pictures of the guy found one crappy picture 751 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:37,140 from like 1520 years ago. So he is obviously you know, a one of 752 00:44:37,140 --> 00:44:39,780 those guys they want to stay out of the spotlight. Yeah. Then he 753 00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:42,480 kills himself. Whatever. He could have been murdered. 754 00:44:42,510 --> 00:44:46,050 Here it is. Here's what rice is doing. Oh, of course. Oh, this 755 00:44:46,050 --> 00:44:51,990 makes total sense. Do you us risk irking Russia yesterday by 756 00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:55,740 signing a partnership charter with Georgia intended to act as 757 00:44:55,740 --> 00:44:59,760 a catalyst for its strongest ally in the south caucuses. 758 00:45:00,570 --> 00:45:04,650 Condoleezza Rice at work. There you go. Is she is she trying to 759 00:45:04,650 --> 00:45:08,400 calm things down in the Middle East? Nah, now she's trying to 760 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,730 piss off the Russians. There you go. Good job Condi. 761 00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:16,260 Well, that's okay. After Obama gets in, he'll continue to piss 762 00:45:16,260 --> 00:45:16,830 them off. 763 00:45:19,740 --> 00:45:22,800 Yeah. So, so what I'm seeing, 764 00:45:23,610 --> 00:45:25,830 I'm sorry to having this gas thing going on there. You know, 765 00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:28,350 Russia is basically you guys are gonna piss us off. Okay, fine. 766 00:45:28,350 --> 00:45:29,430 No gas for you? 767 00:45:30,090 --> 00:45:33,900 Well, I see it a little more as a business deal. Because, you 768 00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:37,620 know, in honesty in the Ukraine, basically is not paying their 769 00:45:37,620 --> 00:45:41,130 bill, you know, they owe Gazprom a lot of money is there's no 770 00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:44,520 dispute. And there's also just the they're talking about 771 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,510 pricing. Because they're taking it for I don't know, it's like 772 00:45:48,990 --> 00:45:52,890 $200, a cubic tonne or something like that. Whereas some prices 773 00:45:52,890 --> 00:45:55,290 in some countries have 500. So that, you know, there's all 774 00:45:55,290 --> 00:45:57,720 kinds of disputes going on. But the biggest one is that the 775 00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:01,980 Ukraine was basically of the gas there, that that runs through 776 00:46:01,980 --> 00:46:06,930 the Ukraine, to to West to Europe, they were syphoning 777 00:46:06,930 --> 00:46:10,200 stuff off for themselves, you know, so there's a legitimate 778 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,100 dispute there. But, you know, come on Europe, you know, let's 779 00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:17,820 consider, you know, we got to come up with some other 780 00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:21,060 solutions. You can't just be you know, you can't be relying on 781 00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:23,850 one country for your natural gas. But this should always 782 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,360 always happens, of course, when it's the coldest winter in a 783 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:27,870 years. 784 00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:30,780 Yeah, well, that's when you put the screws to people. And you 785 00:46:30,780 --> 00:46:31,230 hear people 786 00:46:31,230 --> 00:46:34,530 on the BBC on the radio, like, you know, I had to turn off my 787 00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:37,500 or my gas has been cut off, you know, I can't afford it anymore 788 00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:41,730 and freezing. It's a civilised country. People are freezing to 789 00:46:41,730 --> 00:46:44,010 death. It's crazy. 790 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,890 Get back to the cold. I mean, you have I understand you have 791 00:46:46,890 --> 00:46:49,260 in your new place. You have little fireplaces all throughout 792 00:46:49,260 --> 00:46:52,290 the house. And there's nothing to me that's more interesting 793 00:46:52,290 --> 00:46:56,070 and nice coal fired and nice. coal fire is one of the most 794 00:46:56,070 --> 00:46:59,610 fantastic things I have actually a coal holder here and might one 795 00:46:59,610 --> 00:47:03,480 of my fireplaces, and I would although they it's harder to get 796 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,500 now, but I would burn coal. And of course, it does make a small 797 00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:09,870 odour in the neighbourhood. But nobody knows what it is Cuz 798 00:47:09,870 --> 00:47:13,290 nobody knows what coal is in the California. But it's a gorgeous 799 00:47:13,290 --> 00:47:15,930 fire and it's like be like calm rocks that burn. It's like a 800 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,680 rock, it burns. And it burns for hours. And it burns really warm. 801 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,260 And it gives off a good radiant heat because there's a lot of 802 00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:25,350 ultra infrared coming off these things because they're red, and 803 00:47:25,350 --> 00:47:27,810 they're also flames coming off. And so it's really a quaint 804 00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:30,420 fire. It's not an ugly fire. It's not a smoky fire. It's not 805 00:47:30,420 --> 00:47:34,770 a horrible fire by any means. It's a really cosy, warm, 806 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,400 inviting fire. And once you get it going, it goes for about 20 807 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,670 hours. You don't have to keep poking it and moving the logs 808 00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:45,900 and sticking it or whatever. It's an amazing product. And so 809 00:47:45,930 --> 00:47:48,240 now that you got this great new house with all these little 810 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,940 fireplaces, I'm thinking wow, you're going to be having these 811 00:47:50,940 --> 00:47:54,270 great little coal fires. It's going to make the place so cool, 812 00:47:54,270 --> 00:47:54,630 right? 813 00:47:54,660 --> 00:47:57,210 Yeah, that would have been very nice. If it were not for 814 00:47:57,210 --> 00:48:01,530 regulation that prohibits me from doing that. You have to 815 00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:04,470 wait a minute. Wait, what regulation? 816 00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:08,070 Oh, yeah, you have a coal fire in England. 817 00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:12,690 Now here's what they do. So these these fireplaces, they'll 818 00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:15,030 work the fluids that are wide open, you know, you can shut 819 00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:18,750 them but they're open up got a brand new chimneys on top. 820 00:48:18,750 --> 00:48:21,870 Everything's beautiful. However, if you actually want to burn 821 00:48:21,870 --> 00:48:26,370 anything in it, wood, coal or otherwise, then you have to go 822 00:48:26,370 --> 00:48:30,240 through an extremely lengthy application process they have to 823 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:33,630 come in approve. It has to be done by in a certain way. I 824 00:48:33,630 --> 00:48:37,080 mean, it's like everyone's it's just not worth it to get that 825 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,010 done. And then and then and then they'll tax you for whatever 826 00:48:41,010 --> 00:48:44,400 phantom shit you're spewing into the air from your burning rocks. 827 00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:47,130 It's just not worth it. Oh, I 828 00:48:47,130 --> 00:48:51,180 think you're gonna have to do it. The benefit of this show, 829 00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:56,190 honey, it's show prep. Okay, I've got it. I've got to do it. 830 00:48:58,590 --> 00:48:59,370 I don't know, man. 831 00:48:59,730 --> 00:49:02,280 Come on. You got these little cute little fireplaces all over 832 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,590 the place. And they're designed for originally for coal. Let's 833 00:49:04,590 --> 00:49:07,740 face it. Yeah. Because you don't get the other cool thing about 834 00:49:07,740 --> 00:49:11,160 you can have a really small firebox and just have a little 835 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,590 bit of coal burning because once one of these rocks starts 836 00:49:13,590 --> 00:49:16,650 burning, it doesn't stay doesn't need like a lot of other you 837 00:49:16,650 --> 00:49:19,410 know, friends. I mean, the problem with the wood is that if 838 00:49:19,410 --> 00:49:22,560 it's not with a lot of other friends burning doesn't burn 839 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,380 well, now it won't burn well, you can't just put one log in 840 00:49:25,380 --> 00:49:28,740 and light it and get and watch it burn, it won't burn. But with 841 00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:31,980 coal, you can you can put a couple of stones in there, crank 842 00:49:31,980 --> 00:49:34,890 and get them started, which by the way is the hardest part. But 843 00:49:34,890 --> 00:49:37,110 you can do it. It takes a long time to get one of these to 844 00:49:37,110 --> 00:49:40,590 start but once they start, one rock will just burn by itself. 845 00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:43,500 Well, the one we had in Guilford actually was gas fired so you 846 00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:47,580 can fire up gas first to get a nice even flame underneath all 847 00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:49,770 of your coal and then you turn it off and then it's just 848 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,440 burning then it just keeps going which is a perfect system. 849 00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:57,600 Yeah, that would be good. Yeah. But you're not gonna start a 850 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,550 coal fire with a match. Let's put it 851 00:49:59,550 --> 00:50:04,530 that way. Oh, No. Well, so I don't know, man, but the quote, 852 00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:06,090 they killed the coal industry here. 853 00:50:07,859 --> 00:50:11,369 I was pretty new, they did a crappy job of keep keeping a 854 00:50:11,369 --> 00:50:13,589 handle line. And that's when you had that, you know that that 855 00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:17,309 kill off in the 50s that, you know, the black fog or the death 856 00:50:17,309 --> 00:50:19,379 fog or whatever the heck it was from because they were burning 857 00:50:19,379 --> 00:50:22,889 coal everywhere when I first went to England was in 1973. 858 00:50:22,919 --> 00:50:27,149 That was the London fog, right? Yeah, London fog. And I was in 859 00:50:27,149 --> 00:50:30,899 there in 1973, when they were still using a lot of coal. And 860 00:50:30,929 --> 00:50:35,399 you had to change your shirt twice a day as because around 861 00:50:35,399 --> 00:50:39,659 the collar and around the bottom of the sleeves. At the very end 862 00:50:39,659 --> 00:50:42,449 we're you know, where there's any sweat on your, you know, 863 00:50:42,449 --> 00:50:45,929 that got on there with the coal that stick to it. And you're so 864 00:50:45,929 --> 00:50:50,099 your shirt cuffs were black, within four or five hours of 865 00:50:50,099 --> 00:50:53,909 just walking around town. And you had to cheat, you know, and 866 00:50:53,909 --> 00:50:56,309 it just stuff was like it was cold dust. It was all over the 867 00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:58,649 place. And I guess it was in everyone's lungs. So it was a 868 00:50:58,649 --> 00:50:59,729 problem? Is that maybe 869 00:50:59,730 --> 00:51:03,300 the answer to your question why people don't burn coal anymore. 870 00:51:04,229 --> 00:51:09,779 I think that was that was probably pretty crummy coal. You 871 00:51:09,779 --> 00:51:12,899 know, anthracite, there's different kinds of coal. There's 872 00:51:12,899 --> 00:51:17,579 a we have extremely good quality coal in the US that you can burn 873 00:51:17,579 --> 00:51:19,889 that that without getting a lot of dust everywhere. And of 874 00:51:19,889 --> 00:51:22,589 course, then the power plants nowadays that burn coal have 875 00:51:22,589 --> 00:51:24,989 this floating beds and a very high tech and they have 876 00:51:24,989 --> 00:51:29,759 scrubbers. And they don't make such a mess. Even though people 877 00:51:29,789 --> 00:51:34,409 still claimed his mercury in the in this in the plume, which I 878 00:51:34,949 --> 00:51:35,459 wonder 879 00:51:35,490 --> 00:51:37,680 mercury in the plume, you said, Well, that's 880 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,770 what they say. I mean, there's a big argument that you'll get 881 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,860 from people who promote you know, the thing that's being 882 00:51:43,860 --> 00:51:46,260 promoted now to death all around the world, and I think 883 00:51:46,260 --> 00:51:49,290 considered a wonderful marketing ploy. Because, you know, I 884 00:51:49,290 --> 00:51:52,020 always think of marketing is like driving force behind a lot 885 00:51:52,020 --> 00:51:55,680 of these crazy changes in society. But the one of the 886 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,010 great marketing ploys under all circumstances is to get 887 00:51:59,010 --> 00:52:00,510 legislation passed, right. 888 00:52:00,510 --> 00:52:03,840 And you do that with a sad looking polar bear on a piece of 889 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:04,320 ice, 890 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,970 right? So you can hit so so the thing that they've managed to do 891 00:52:08,970 --> 00:52:13,470 in a lot of places is ban the incandescent light. And that 892 00:52:13,470 --> 00:52:17,220 means that China, and those crazy little cheap ass 893 00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:20,820 fluorescent bulbs that you know, those little crazy things that 894 00:52:20,820 --> 00:52:24,690 don't last as long as they say, and they're hard, they don't 895 00:52:24,690 --> 00:52:27,300 fit, make it into a lot of fittings, and they look stupid. 896 00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:31,680 And they give off a moderate amount of light for what I have 897 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,640 to give them credit for that 898 00:52:32,670 --> 00:52:36,600 the what the, like 2025 watts or something like that 899 00:52:36,660 --> 00:52:43,170 five to one over A over A, you multiply by five. And that's 900 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,050 what you'd have to be using. If you were using incandescent to 901 00:52:46,050 --> 00:52:48,690 get the same lumens. I think there's a couple of 902 00:52:48,690 --> 00:52:51,780 disadvantages. One thing they burn cool, so mosquitoes don't 903 00:52:51,780 --> 00:52:55,680 get killed when they come up to the light and kill themselves. 904 00:52:55,950 --> 00:52:57,360 So I think that's a disadvantage. I think we're 905 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:03,900 going to have more malaria. But besides that, it's obvious that 906 00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:07,020 they're trying to get these things to become standard that 907 00:53:07,050 --> 00:53:10,320 every one of them has mercury in them. That's, you know, and so 908 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,730 if you bring this up amongst the complainers, the greenies, they 909 00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:17,400 say, wow, you know, and if you do the calculation, they should 910 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,180 have the numbers and they may they may be right, if the except 911 00:53:21,180 --> 00:53:26,430 there's always potentially a flaw in the calculation, and 912 00:53:26,430 --> 00:53:30,630 I'll point out what it might be, they will say, okay, so you use 913 00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:35,130 1/5 as much electricity, the good regenerate that, you know, 914 00:53:35,130 --> 00:53:39,150 four fifths more electricity, you have to burn this much more 915 00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:43,740 coal, and that much more coal for those Watts produces this 916 00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:46,470 much mercury, which goes into the atmosphere, which is less 917 00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:50,370 than the amount of mercury in the bulb. Right. So that's their 918 00:53:50,370 --> 00:53:55,410 argument. The question that needs to be answered is, is the 919 00:53:55,410 --> 00:53:57,900 amount of mercury that they claim is coming off those 920 00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:00,990 stacks? Accurate? I'm not sure it is. 921 00:54:03,420 --> 00:54:07,470 Well, I when it when it comes to government data in general, I'm, 922 00:54:08,430 --> 00:54:13,350 I'm highly sceptical. It's like the joblessness rate, which was 923 00:54:13,350 --> 00:54:16,380 it? So we had another four or five, about a half a million 924 00:54:16,410 --> 00:54:20,160 extra nonfarm payroll jobs that the United States lost in the 925 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,670 month of December. But apparently, under Johnson, they 926 00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:27,930 changed the way they count the unemployed, and what I call 927 00:54:27,930 --> 00:54:31,650 them, the people who just give up who have they ever named for 928 00:54:31,650 --> 00:54:35,520 that the quitters or whatever. So people who have been 929 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,210 unemployed for more than two months, they no longer count. So 930 00:54:39,210 --> 00:54:41,190 what were they talking about? What is it what are they saying 931 00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:45,690 now? What's the percentage maybe 7% unemployment? Yeah, that it 932 00:54:45,690 --> 00:54:50,550 actually is closer to 12. B, if you're counting by gate by Great 933 00:54:50,550 --> 00:54:55,140 Depression days, which there was a 25% unemployment actually 934 00:54:55,170 --> 00:55:01,200 27 needs by some calculations, maybe 30 or so. Anyway, back to 935 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,540 the light bulb thing since I was just one of them. I just thought 936 00:55:03,540 --> 00:55:07,110 one other point, you know if you can legislate these fluorescent 937 00:55:07,110 --> 00:55:10,680 bulbs into existence, so they're taking over everything, and 938 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,620 which doesn't I'm not completely annoyed by although let me point 939 00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:16,830 out one thing, there was a lot of high technology bulbs that 940 00:55:16,830 --> 00:55:20,250 came out around 15, or close to 20 years ago, and a lot of 941 00:55:20,250 --> 00:55:23,340 people don't even remember these things. But Philips had a slew 942 00:55:23,340 --> 00:55:27,690 of them, I have two of these bulbs that have been burning on 943 00:55:27,690 --> 00:55:34,440 and off for 818 or 19 years. Incandescent bulbs, they have a 944 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,010 little device inside them that turns them off automatically 945 00:55:38,010 --> 00:55:42,270 after five minutes of not being you know, yeah. And then it's 946 00:55:42,270 --> 00:55:44,160 like, they don't really stop making these bolts because they 947 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,220 last forever. And so there was like, that kind of thing was 948 00:55:47,220 --> 00:55:50,760 dropped in favour now of these fluorescent bulbs, luckily, but 949 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,890 if you can legislate the fluorescent bulbs into 950 00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:56,970 existence, I think you can legislate them out of existence 951 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,470 at the point where we have the crossover and LEDs become the 952 00:56:01,470 --> 00:56:03,750 light source of choice. And we can just say, you know, screw 953 00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:06,480 the Chinese, we're just going to make LED lighting and that's the 954 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,130 only lighting that's going to be legal. 955 00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:15,060 So it looks like we have Al Gore to thank for this too. I just 956 00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:20,910 found a TED Talk by him. Yeah, we must not change the light 957 00:56:20,910 --> 00:56:27,300 bulbs. We need to change the laws is his quote. I thought 958 00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:31,530 that belief he isn't he involved with some kind of fluorescent 959 00:56:31,530 --> 00:56:32,520 light company. 960 00:56:32,790 --> 00:56:35,370 He probably is everything he does. He's got his fingers 961 00:56:35,370 --> 00:56:36,480 in surprise me. 962 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,800 Yeah. Well, and everybody Oh, Al Gore, Al Gore, you know, you 963 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,660 know, he's a good guy. Well, he has 964 00:56:45,660 --> 00:56:48,870 a Nobel Peace Prize, a Grammy and an Oscar, how can you go up 965 00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:51,600 against that? Those are all the symbols of the United States of 966 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,360 America. He has the triumvirate all he needs now is one of those 967 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,920 metals from Bush and he said 968 00:56:56,970 --> 00:57:01,080 he'll get one of those metals from Obama I guarantee. Exactly. 969 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:05,220 Yeah, 970 00:57:05,370 --> 00:57:10,080 in, in Holland, the the packaging on the Philips version 971 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:15,120 of these long lasting low energy light bulbs that actually says 972 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,870 if you drop it and break it, you have to take it to the disposal 973 00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:19,470 centre. 974 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,900 Whatever that is. Yeah. Because it has got all this mercury 975 00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:25,440 mercury. 976 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,040 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man, which, which is worse. I mean, 977 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,260 people just toss light bulbs, where they're not thinking about 978 00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:32,880 that just throw that shit in the trash. 979 00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:35,370 Exactly. And that's where all these things are ending up, 980 00:57:35,370 --> 00:57:39,480 they're ending up in the regular garbage busted up. And it's just 981 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,740 going to have mercury leaching from all of our dump sites. And 982 00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:45,420 there's going to be so much of these because we're talking 983 00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:48,540 about millions and millions and millions and millions of these 984 00:57:48,540 --> 00:57:51,510 bulbs and millions of pounds of mercury is gonna be leaching out 985 00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:53,730 they're gonna end up turning these things into hazardous 986 00:57:53,730 --> 00:57:55,950 waste sites. So they're gonna have to be blocked off and the 987 00:57:55,950 --> 00:57:59,670 taxpayers are gonna have to dig up these garbage dumps because 988 00:57:59,670 --> 00:58:01,920 of this thing is going to cost more money than we saved with 989 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,100 the bulbs. It's going to be a it's an ecological disaster. No 990 00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:06,060 thanks to Al Gore. 991 00:58:06,090 --> 00:58:08,730 Yeah, but it's already taken place because you know, where 992 00:58:08,730 --> 00:58:12,030 they're dumping all this shit is in right off Somalia. I've been 993 00:58:12,030 --> 00:58:14,490 reading about these pirates, man, it's a really interesting 994 00:58:14,490 --> 00:58:18,450 story, when you really get into it, and the whole branding of 995 00:58:18,450 --> 00:58:22,890 these pirates is is just is beautiful, who you know, of 996 00:58:22,890 --> 00:58:25,680 course, it's not a stretch to come up with it. But they did a 997 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,250 great job. But when you when you look at the history of all of 998 00:58:29,250 --> 00:58:33,060 the toxic illegal dumping off of their shores, which I'm sure 999 00:58:33,060 --> 00:58:37,590 contains all of our toxic lightbulbs, which is rumoured to 1000 00:58:37,590 --> 00:58:43,680 be done by it's funny, by the mob, the mafia, who of course, 1001 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:49,680 are traditionally very strong in the waste disposal business. And 1002 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,130 of course, the overfishing illegal overfishing off of their 1003 00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:57,060 shore. This is why these guys are going out and saying fuck 1004 00:58:57,060 --> 00:58:59,550 you. I'm gonna grab some shit for me. Do you see that 1005 00:58:59,550 --> 00:59:02,580 parachute with a $3 million coming down on the ship? Is that 1006 00:59:02,580 --> 00:59:05,790 amazing? I mean, do we live in a science? Where's Bruce Willis? 1007 00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:10,140 This is a science fiction movie. We're parachuting a red capsule 1008 00:59:10,140 --> 00:59:14,910 with $3 million dollars or $2 million onto a $25 million load 1009 00:59:14,910 --> 00:59:15,600 of oil 1010 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:22,710 with with accuracy. With accuracy indeed. Yeah, they 1011 00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:24,990 didn't have to fish it out of the drink. 1012 00:59:25,860 --> 00:59:28,560 But these but it's like it's more like actually it's more 1013 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,830 like Waterworld. So they have these, these rib boats these 1014 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,780 which is rigid inflatable boats. And they launched from a 1015 00:59:36,780 --> 00:59:40,260 mothership. So you hear this thing about the mothership, but 1016 00:59:40,260 --> 00:59:43,320 that's literally what it is. So they're 200 kilometre or 200 1017 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,500 nautical miles out. And there's these tankers and they just you 1018 00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:49,290 know, they poop out these, these rib boats, which should you 1019 00:59:49,290 --> 00:59:55,980 know, 250 horsepower, jacked up. speedboats. Just go on and hop 1020 00:59:55,980 --> 00:59:59,310 on board. You know, lock the doors, treat everybody nicely 1021 00:59:59,310 --> 01:00:03,150 and then just start negotiating a price. It's, it's brilliant. 1022 01:00:03,180 --> 01:00:07,980 It's pirates. But but the history of the pirates is what's 1023 01:00:07,980 --> 01:00:12,480 interesting. Because the pirates, the pirates have always 1024 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,060 been kind of like Pirates of the Caribbean Johnny Depp is kind of 1025 01:00:15,060 --> 01:00:18,240 romanticised. But but the reason why that these guys were 1026 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,020 actually pretty social, in in their lifestyle, because they 1027 01:00:22,020 --> 01:00:26,190 were basically rebelling, and these were all boys who probably 1028 01:00:26,190 --> 01:00:29,280 were taken on board ships when they were young teenagers. And, 1029 01:00:29,550 --> 01:00:32,760 you know, were whipped and beaten and treated as slaves 1030 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,980 essentially, and then probably cheated out of their wages at 1031 01:00:34,980 --> 01:00:37,380 the end of two years on board of a ship. And they all kind of 1032 01:00:37,380 --> 01:00:39,300 say, Fuck this, we're gonna become pirates. And they 1033 01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:44,220 captured it. And they live side by side, regardless of race or 1034 01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:48,660 religion or whatever religion they had, you know, then and and 1035 01:00:48,660 --> 01:00:50,580 they were just kind of taken, what would they thought was 1036 01:00:50,580 --> 01:00:54,630 theirs, and getting back for being screwed? And that's what's 1037 01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:57,300 behind these, the Somali pirates. 1038 01:00:58,950 --> 01:01:00,900 Yeah, the story is going to be interesting, when it finally 1039 01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:01,590 gets told, 1040 01:01:02,070 --> 01:01:05,370 Well, I think we will see a you know, where Steven Spielberg, 1041 01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:07,740 it's time for Pirates of Somalia. 1042 01:01:09,690 --> 01:01:12,540 I think it's going to show up first as a as a thriller, with 1043 01:01:12,570 --> 01:01:15,210 Bruce Willis type movie. And those guys are going to be 1044 01:01:15,210 --> 01:01:18,420 portrayed as a bunch of, you know, evil doers. And then 1045 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,970 there'll be some more sympathetic material later, when 1046 01:01:20,970 --> 01:01:22,500 they, you know, years from now, well, right 1047 01:01:22,500 --> 01:01:27,210 now, there's a fleet of 20 ships, headed by an ex Admiral, 1048 01:01:27,210 --> 01:01:30,060 or maybe even a current, you know, or whatever, like a big 1049 01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:34,260 naval, Yahoo. And they're sailing off there, and they're 1050 01:01:34,260 --> 01:01:36,840 gonna go start shooting ship, because ships are literally 1051 01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:40,080 avoiding the Suez Canal now, which is, you know, it's an 1052 01:01:40,110 --> 01:01:45,330 economic disaster. There's a reason for that canal. And so 1053 01:01:45,330 --> 01:01:48,240 now they want to go around the Cape of Good Hope, I think it is 1054 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,740 to avoid the pirates. And so now there's a there's a an army of 1055 01:01:52,740 --> 01:01:57,360 20 armada of 20 ships to protect. And it's the 1056 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,240 international army. You know, it's like the UN base thing. I'm 1057 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:00,720 sure. 1058 01:02:01,140 --> 01:02:03,420 What's up Blackwater was going to do something to Oh, I'm 1059 01:02:03,420 --> 01:02:07,680 sure. I'm sure they're private companies involved in it. That's 1060 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,840 why they sent out the press release, you know, don't draw it 1061 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:10,980 comes the cavalry. 1062 01:02:15,630 --> 01:02:17,700 Is that Cape Horn or the Cape of Good Hope? I 1063 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,840 think it's Cape of Good Hope. I'm going to South Africa, by 1064 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:22,260 the way. 1065 01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:26,430 Oh, you like it? It's very good. Yeah. It can't be good hope as a 1066 01:02:26,430 --> 01:02:28,890 southern tip of Africa, by the way, I went to the Cape of Good 1067 01:02:28,890 --> 01:02:35,130 Hope. And you get to see the convergence of the Indian Ocean 1068 01:02:35,130 --> 01:02:40,890 and the Atlantic Ocean. And in fact, it's a very violent piece 1069 01:02:40,890 --> 01:02:44,190 of the world. It's extremely weird. Because those 1070 01:02:44,190 --> 01:02:46,500 two hours two oceans they clash there, right, you got it 1071 01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:46,920 horrible. 1072 01:02:47,940 --> 01:02:51,930 Don't seem to get along at all. And it's so you, you go who 1073 01:02:51,930 --> 01:02:55,980 actually went there. What was weird about it's kind of weird, 1074 01:02:55,980 --> 01:03:01,050 because down in that area, there is a we go into the there's like 1075 01:03:01,050 --> 01:03:04,530 a National Park where the where you get in parking the parking 1076 01:03:04,530 --> 01:03:07,890 lot, and you walk out about, it's about a half a mile to get 1077 01:03:07,890 --> 01:03:11,550 to the exact point of where you're right there at the bottom 1078 01:03:11,550 --> 01:03:16,890 of Africa. And in the process of getting there we go into the 1079 01:03:16,890 --> 01:03:23,400 parking lot. And there is a bunch of baboons like 10 of 1080 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:28,380 them, who had some, some Japanese guy cornered in the 1081 01:03:28,380 --> 01:03:31,470 parking lot. And they were they were, I wouldn't say they were 1082 01:03:31,470 --> 01:03:34,530 beaten him up or anything. But it was it was like a gang. They 1083 01:03:34,530 --> 01:03:38,370 were intimidating him. And the these baboons, by the way, are 1084 01:03:38,370 --> 01:03:42,720 all over this area. And they're and they're frightening. And 1085 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,380 they walk around like they own the place. And they actually 1086 01:03:46,410 --> 01:03:50,040 gave us the couple of them gave us the eye as we were going up 1087 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,530 to the thing. And we're worried, 1088 01:03:52,650 --> 01:03:55,320 but they recognise that they recognise distant family and let 1089 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,790 you slide. Is that what you're saying? 1090 01:03:57,060 --> 01:03:59,910 Now they said, they was more like, you know, we'll you know, 1091 01:03:59,910 --> 01:04:01,980 we got this other guy, we're having fun with him there, you 1092 01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:04,350 know, he'd had to give him you've given them stuff, right. 1093 01:04:04,380 --> 01:04:08,460 And so and it would work Mimi's description of this was like, 1094 01:04:09,030 --> 01:04:15,330 like, incredibly big dogs that were intelligent. And so they 1095 01:04:15,330 --> 01:04:17,610 had and you can just see it. And you know, you can't look him in 1096 01:04:17,610 --> 01:04:21,450 the eye, by the way, don't look a baboon in the eye. It's a 1097 01:04:21,450 --> 01:04:24,240 challenge. So you had to not look at him in the eye. So 1098 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,060 anyway, so we went up and watch the thing, the action and we 1099 01:04:27,060 --> 01:04:28,860 stayed there for a while because there was a bunch of you know, 1100 01:04:28,860 --> 01:04:31,350 it was just interesting. And there's all kinds of weird 1101 01:04:31,380 --> 01:04:34,560 little critters living around there. And so then we were 1102 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,840 worried about coming back and we came back in the parking lot was 1103 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,950 clear of the baboons. And so as we were driving back the road 1104 01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:45,000 back though, the family of these these punk baboons was on the 1105 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,580 road, you know, and I was thinking I'm running a couple of 1106 01:04:47,580 --> 01:04:50,040 them over but I decided to get and 1107 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,750 John C. Dvorak, the environmentalist. 1108 01:04:56,370 --> 01:04:59,430 But these guys were punks. It was unbelievable. And you you've 1109 01:04:59,430 --> 01:05:03,570 run into This problem when you're in, you know, floating 1110 01:05:03,570 --> 01:05:05,820 around, they're just the baboons are just the you know, they 1111 01:05:05,850 --> 01:05:10,050 they're running the place. That's my story and I'm sticking 1112 01:05:10,050 --> 01:05:13,710 to it feels like South Africa. What are you going to do in 1113 01:05:13,710 --> 01:05:14,460 South Africa? 1114 01:05:14,759 --> 01:05:16,139 I'm sitting on my ass. 1115 01:05:17,099 --> 01:05:18,659 What part of South Africa you going to? 1116 01:05:18,719 --> 01:05:23,219 I am not sure. It's it's kind of a mystery. Patricia, my wife, 1117 01:05:23,219 --> 01:05:28,139 you know, she's, she's so kind. So, you know, being the huge 1118 01:05:28,139 --> 01:05:30,449 celebrity that she has in the Netherlands, one of the glossy 1119 01:05:30,449 --> 01:05:34,199 magazines, in fact, I think it's called glossy. So today, we 1120 01:05:34,199 --> 01:05:37,019 really want to do a photo shoot, because you know, photo shoot 1121 01:05:37,169 --> 01:05:41,069 equals magazines being sold, it's very simple business with 1122 01:05:41,099 --> 01:05:45,989 the cover is what sells at all. And, and so it's kind of simple 1123 01:05:45,989 --> 01:05:49,199 with these types of deals, you know, there's a, there's not 1124 01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:52,319 huge fee involved. But typically you say, Okay, well, where are 1125 01:05:52,319 --> 01:05:54,359 we going to do this photo shoot? Well, how about we were thinking 1126 01:05:54,359 --> 01:05:58,469 South Africa at this five star resort? And I'm thinking yeah, 1127 01:05:58,469 --> 01:06:01,109 that's a good idea. So Patricia will do one or two days of 1128 01:06:01,109 --> 01:06:02,669 photos. They'll pay for a 1129 01:06:02,670 --> 01:06:06,390 week. And there's five there's a couple of I can't remember the 1130 01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:09,210 name of this visit this right outside of Johannesburg, there's 1131 01:06:09,210 --> 01:06:12,990 a resort area that has these. I think that's probably where 1132 01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:16,560 you're going to end up. Where you want to go with where you're 1133 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,780 down. If you can, there's two things, you'd be nice. You could 1134 01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:21,870 do. I couldn't do. I couldn't get a ride on this thing. But 1135 01:06:21,870 --> 01:06:25,890 the Blue Train, I believe, is still in service, which was one 1136 01:06:25,890 --> 01:06:29,160 of the greatest train rides in the world. But it's always it 1137 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,830 was when I went there as all sold out and you can couldn't 1138 01:06:31,830 --> 01:06:35,430 even where does it go? I think it goes from Johannesburg to 1139 01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:36,660 Cape Town or something like that. 1140 01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:39,600 Dude, I'm gonna stay in the resort on my ass drinking pina 1141 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:40,290 coladas. 1142 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,030 I am going to go to Cape Town. I'm 1143 01:06:42,030 --> 01:06:44,490 not going to go to Cape Town, Cape Town, Cape Town. 1144 01:06:44,940 --> 01:06:47,010 I'm going to I'm gonna stay by the pool. See, that's the 1145 01:06:47,010 --> 01:06:48,270 difference between you and me. 1146 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,540 No, no, that's not that's the difference between you and me 1147 01:06:51,540 --> 01:06:57,120 and my wife. You and me we'd be we'd be out in the jungle man. 1148 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:03,330 We'd be killing our breakfast. You mean to me and my wife not 1149 01:07:03,330 --> 01:07:04,800 so adventurous? 1150 01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:07,860 What's interesting down at Cape Town is they have a restaurant, 1151 01:07:07,860 --> 01:07:10,050 which I think is called the Blue Train. As a matter of fact, 1152 01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:14,040 yours Your tickets there anyway, somebody could correct me. But 1153 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,300 they have every known. They have they cook everything. So you can 1154 01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:21,510 go in there. And so I caught up with all my needing to, 1155 01:07:21,780 --> 01:07:24,570 obviously I needed to see what these things tasted like being a 1156 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:30,180 carnivore. And so you get to have elephant and zebra, and 1157 01:07:30,180 --> 01:07:38,460 crocodile and different kinds of elk and gazelle. And hippo, I 1158 01:07:38,460 --> 01:07:42,240 think there was hippo. And just like everything. I mean, you can 1159 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,750 imagine. So it's a big lineup of this stuff. And unfortunately, 1160 01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:48,030 because it's South Africa, they have to overcook everything 1161 01:07:48,030 --> 01:07:51,480 because of worms. Yeah. And 1162 01:07:52,019 --> 01:07:54,389 have you seen those YouTube videos that we talked about 1163 01:07:54,389 --> 01:07:59,759 that? No. Oh, there's this big YouTube thing, where if someone 1164 01:07:59,789 --> 01:08:03,029 started it off, and so there's a lot of different videos out 1165 01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:06,119 there now and you don't know what's real anymore. They said 1166 01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:09,869 that they they bought some pork. And they poured Coca Cola, they 1167 01:08:09,869 --> 01:08:13,799 basically marinated it in Coca Cola in a little Tupperware 1168 01:08:13,799 --> 01:08:17,009 bowl. And after about three minutes, these little worms 1169 01:08:17,009 --> 01:08:21,119 start appearing out of the out of the meat. And the theory is 1170 01:08:21,119 --> 01:08:25,469 that because of the carbon carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide 1171 01:08:26,459 --> 01:08:30,239 in the coke that there's no oxygen left and then the worms 1172 01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:33,359 have to try to get out of the out of the meat out of the pork. 1173 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:36,569 And you Google it is there's a couple of obvious fake ones. But 1174 01:08:36,569 --> 01:08:39,209 there's some that's like, Wow, man, it looks like larvae coming 1175 01:08:39,209 --> 01:08:40,829 out of the out of the porkchop there. 1176 01:08:41,580 --> 01:08:42,840 That doesn't sound good. 1177 01:08:42,929 --> 01:08:46,409 No, of course not. And so what they're saying is this is you 1178 01:08:46,409 --> 01:08:51,479 know, this isn't basically almost all American pork. Oh, 1179 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,529 no, we can't do it. You know, I haven't I haven't done anything 1180 01:08:55,529 --> 01:08:56,099 with it. Because 1181 01:08:56,730 --> 01:08:59,130 yeah, we got to figure out whether this is bogus or not. 1182 01:08:59,850 --> 01:09:02,100 Well, sounds that sound right. Because I mean, what are these 1183 01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:04,080 worms doing? And they're they're obviously eating anything 1184 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,540 because you don't see it in the in the structure of the meat 1185 01:09:06,540 --> 01:09:08,490 when you cut through it. I mean, when it's raw. 1186 01:09:10,290 --> 01:09:14,970 The little white larvae almost like how maggots start out. 1187 01:09:17,490 --> 01:09:18,780 It's disgusting. You google it 1188 01:09:18,780 --> 01:09:22,860 Google coke and pork on or just go to YouTube and you'll see it 1189 01:09:22,860 --> 01:09:25,890 it's and there's some yeah, there's some really funny ones 1190 01:09:25,890 --> 01:09:28,410 where there's a little flash edit there, right and they've 1191 01:09:28,410 --> 01:09:33,240 put garden worms on the floor. Okay, yeah, now I'm really 1192 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,970 freaked out. But there's a couple where you know, it's it 1193 01:09:35,970 --> 01:09:38,670 looks like it's an unedited shot. And then there's these 1194 01:09:38,670 --> 01:09:40,800 little white dots start to appear and then they go in with 1195 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,310 tweezers and they pull out these worms. Here we go. 1196 01:09:45,150 --> 01:09:48,780 Snopes dot suggestion in the chat room. It's already right at 1197 01:09:48,780 --> 01:09:52,290 the top claim pouring Coca Cola into a piece of raw pork will 1198 01:09:52,290 --> 01:09:55,530 cause worms to come crawling out of the meat status false. 1199 01:09:55,980 --> 01:09:58,380 Well, or who believes those guys 1200 01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:05,310 So let's see if they explain how they're getting this effect 1201 01:10:05,310 --> 01:10:07,110 though because they're obviously they're doing something to 1202 01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:09,840 the effect I understand the effect is because the coke 1203 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:14,220 because it's it has all the carbonation that the oxygen gets 1204 01:10:14,220 --> 01:10:17,700 pulled out of the pork and then the worms freak out and they 1205 01:10:17,700 --> 01:10:18,270 start doing 1206 01:10:18,270 --> 01:10:20,610 it I know I'm saying but they're getting this effect when there's 1207 01:10:20,610 --> 01:10:25,050 no real worms. They said they've tried it they can't get this to 1208 01:10:25,050 --> 01:10:25,560 do it. 1209 01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:28,680 Well, it may not be an all in all pork, obviously. I mean, 1210 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:35,100 maybe have to go to the chat room says our list let's just 1211 01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:39,900 call them Mara. Our listeners are saying that halibut seems to 1212 01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:41,070 also have worms. 1213 01:10:42,090 --> 01:10:46,560 Yeah, halibut does have a lot of fish has worms. I know monkfish 1214 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:51,900 has a lot of worms. That's kind of disgusting. Well, once there, 1215 01:10:52,170 --> 01:10:55,260 you know if you cook it, you're just eating the worm 1216 01:10:55,680 --> 01:11:00,000 cooked worms. Right. Right. Oh, it's protein. Protein. So 1217 01:11:00,060 --> 01:11:02,640 I guess that's the that's the bigger question is Is that a 1218 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:08,520 problem and worms, you know, I why people eat worms all the 1219 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:08,910 time. 1220 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,450 I just don't buy I'm not buying this worm thing coming out of 1221 01:11:12,450 --> 01:11:15,630 pork that much. You know, people do eat worms. In fact, there's 1222 01:11:15,630 --> 01:11:18,540 Fried Worms as a dietary thing in some cultures. 1223 01:11:18,570 --> 01:11:22,080 Well, speaking of worms, Phil Spector got off on a mistrial 1224 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:29,760 hitting mistrial. 1010 10 to two, no one knows it was 10 for 1225 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,800 conviction or against the conviction, but apparently was 1226 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,500 tended to so that's a hung jury, and he got off. 1227 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,910 He shot the girl. He shot her. 1228 01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:41,310 Yeah, yeah, he did. 1229 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,150 But he's pretty well known for handling guns around people. 1230 01:11:47,010 --> 01:11:50,310 Did he? I think he shot a John Lennon once. Or we shot in the 1231 01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:56,130 studio. A white mist? Yeah. Now the CIA took care of that. So 1232 01:11:57,810 --> 01:12:01,110 don't lie. Don't laugh. Don't laugh. The CIA killed John 1233 01:12:01,110 --> 01:12:05,760 Lennon app. So why? Why? Excuse me? Did you see the multimillion 1234 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,330 dollar ad campaign he took out with the he went on a whole 1235 01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:12,630 piece campaign he was promoting exactly the opposite of the 1236 01:12:12,630 --> 01:12:16,320 reptilian agenda. And they got sick and tired of him and they 1237 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,620 killed him. That's the easiest way this is how they kill 1238 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:24,300 important people. They get a nutcase they they jack them up 1239 01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:27,750 make sure he has a gun and then they turn them loose pin for 1240 01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:30,390 time the Dutch politician who got killed one week before a 1241 01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:34,350 landslide election he won posthumously they got some 1242 01:12:34,350 --> 01:12:38,280 animal loving tree hugging not in a jacked him up and got him a 1243 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,580 gun and he shot him right outside the radio station. And 1244 01:12:41,610 --> 01:12:42,960 this is this is how they do it. 1245 01:12:46,650 --> 01:12:48,900 I've always wondered about sir hand sir hand 1246 01:12:49,980 --> 01:12:53,940 that means nothing to me. How come this guy is booster hand? 1247 01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:54,480 Sirhan? 1248 01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:57,750 Sirhan Sirhan is the guy who killed Bobby Kennedy. 1249 01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:01,800 Chase. Yeah, you know, he Bobby Kennedy got a bum deal because 1250 01:13:01,830 --> 01:13:04,980 you know, his brother had such a better death. 1251 01:13:06,750 --> 01:13:11,430 So Bobby Kennedy gets killed and Serhan Serhan who's a I don't 1252 01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:14,310 know what that name is, like, in Middle Eastern or some sort. 1253 01:13:14,670 --> 01:13:17,850 Would and nobody's ever made the connection between his you know, 1254 01:13:17,850 --> 01:13:21,030 the 911 or anything near the Middle East. You know, kind of 1255 01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:24,960 this disappointment with this guy, sir. Hanser had known 1256 01:13:24,990 --> 01:13:29,040 interviews him. He's, I think he's over here in San Quentin. 1257 01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:32,730 And he's just been they just came up with fell off the radar, 1258 01:13:32,730 --> 01:13:34,710 I think is kind of interesting. I think somebody should go over 1259 01:13:34,710 --> 01:13:36,600 there and see what he has to say. 1260 01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:42,630 I'm just looking at his wiki page. Born in Jerusalem to a 1261 01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:46,290 Palestinian Christian family. If he was black, you'd have it all. 1262 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:56,580 Huh. Wow. Yes, sir. He killed him with a 22. Hmm. 1263 01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:59,580 Yeah. Which is not the easiest thing in the world known unless 1264 01:13:59,580 --> 01:14:00,660 you're a professional. Yeah, 1265 01:14:00,660 --> 01:14:02,790 I mean, you really got to know what you're doing. I mean, a 22. 1266 01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:04,890 You can put that into someone's head and they can just walk 1267 01:14:04,890 --> 01:14:14,430 away. Hmm. Interesting. I will look into him. Yeah, good. And 1268 01:14:14,430 --> 01:14:16,950 no one ever talks about him or not? Yeah, I'll add it to my 1269 01:14:16,980 --> 01:14:21,780 growing list of conspiracies to describe I got a few more for 1270 01:14:21,780 --> 01:14:25,680 you. Okay, the one that is concerning, I know we've been 1271 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,920 lapped by we have been lacking in your nuttiness over the last 1272 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,530 few weeks. And I think it's, you know, probably increased our 1273 01:14:31,530 --> 01:14:35,910 numbers but people still need to hear it. 1274 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,150 What's interesting though is know a lot of people in the 1275 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,270 here's your problem people are turning onto and they're like, 1276 01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:45,360 Yeah, I agree. You know, and then and then when you start to 1277 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,500 agree, they're actually like, you know, Hey, man, like, you 1278 01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:54,030 know, you John should agree with you more and you should not you 1279 01:14:54,030 --> 01:14:57,090 don't understand why do we even do a show of John agrees with me 1280 01:14:57,090 --> 01:15:01,680 on all this stuff. But this is one that And someone dropped me 1281 01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:05,940 a piece from BBC World Service about bees. And I know that this 1282 01:15:05,940 --> 01:15:09,180 has been in the news off and on off and on. But now it's, it's 1283 01:15:09,180 --> 01:15:13,620 now it's really getting pretty damn serious. And the thing is 1284 01:15:13,620 --> 01:15:17,640 the problem. So what they said in this report is that every 1285 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:22,320 third spoonful of food you put into your mouth, bees had 1286 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,520 something to do with it. 1287 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,520 Well, there's a couple of things here. One is there's a lot of 1288 01:15:30,030 --> 01:15:32,730 here's there actually, there's a couple of problems to one of the 1289 01:15:32,730 --> 01:15:34,920 things that are out here in California, for example, the 1290 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,340 honeybees have been decimated, just like any place. So these 1291 01:15:38,340 --> 01:15:43,470 are alien B, they really don't normally exist in United States. 1292 01:15:43,470 --> 01:15:46,710 And there's a lot of native bees, especially in California, 1293 01:15:46,710 --> 01:15:50,610 some, I don't know how many species but it's, it's a 30 or 1294 01:15:50,610 --> 01:15:55,170 100, or some, it's a lot. And so this year, during the 1295 01:15:55,380 --> 01:15:58,470 pollination season, everything got pollinated and my plum tree 1296 01:15:58,470 --> 01:16:01,740 was loaded with plums, it wasn't a problem. But when I go out to 1297 01:16:01,740 --> 01:16:04,260 look at who was pollinating, I mean, it wasn't honeybees, it 1298 01:16:04,260 --> 01:16:07,410 was all these other weird bees, there's a green bee, and there's 1299 01:16:07,410 --> 01:16:10,380 a big bee. And there's all these other fees, and they're all 1300 01:16:10,380 --> 01:16:10,710 living, 1301 01:16:10,890 --> 01:16:13,680 John Belushi dressed up as a B, there's 1302 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:19,260 speaking Spanish, and there's a, there was just a, like a whole 1303 01:16:19,260 --> 01:16:22,470 variety of weird B's that they were now you know, being able 1304 01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:26,940 to, you know, thrive without the honey bees, you know, is hogging 1305 01:16:26,940 --> 01:16:30,780 everything. And so that probably was a good thing. But meanwhile, 1306 01:16:30,780 --> 01:16:33,450 there seems to be some evidence that these bees are now getting 1307 01:16:33,450 --> 01:16:35,850 this problem. Now, if that happens, then you have a serious 1308 01:16:35,850 --> 01:16:39,030 issue. But it may be the whole thing may be solved at some 1309 01:16:39,030 --> 01:16:43,110 point. By you know, some of the more, there's a beekeeper up in 1310 01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:48,000 Port Angeles, who is very famous for being extremely, you know, 1311 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,540 he refuses to use anything that's not natural. And he let 1312 01:16:51,540 --> 01:16:55,710 it let basically let his bees die off from mites and 1313 01:16:55,710 --> 01:16:58,530 everything else, except for the strong bees that had natural 1314 01:16:58,530 --> 01:17:01,440 resistance. And he's been breeding those. And so now he's 1315 01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,650 got some queens and he cost him I think two seasons of honey, 1316 01:17:05,130 --> 01:17:07,800 which is a shame because his hunt is unbelievably great. And 1317 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,410 we always want to buy cases of it. And so 1318 01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:15,360 there's two parts to the story, part one, which I think is the 1319 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,120 one that people don't understand. And then there's 1320 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,850 part two, part one the thing people don't want understand, 1321 01:17:21,060 --> 01:17:24,630 but part one is bees. It's a business bees, you know, 1322 01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:28,710 beekeepers take their bees to fields of crops, the bees are 1323 01:17:28,710 --> 01:17:33,060 then let loose, they pollinate so that, you know, crops 1324 01:17:33,330 --> 01:17:37,650 essentially grow and, and, and fruit springs or whatever, 1325 01:17:37,650 --> 01:17:40,680 whatever is needed, but they're responsible for it. And it's a 1326 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,380 business and then these bees come back to their hive, and the 1327 01:17:43,380 --> 01:17:47,040 guy goes to another farm. The problem is, the bees are 1328 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,980 disappearing, they're not just dying and falling down dead, 1329 01:17:50,010 --> 01:17:54,390 they're gone. They don't come back to their hive anymore. And 1330 01:17:54,450 --> 01:17:58,500 so the so the problem is that severely impacts food, and this 1331 01:17:58,500 --> 01:18:02,280 is what people don't understand. Right? Well, I 1332 01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:03,870 don't know. I think they do 1333 01:18:03,900 --> 01:18:07,890 know, are you kidding me? You go on the street and ask any person 1334 01:18:07,890 --> 01:18:12,540 how important are bees? I guarantee you only 5% will know 1335 01:18:12,540 --> 01:18:16,020 the importance of bees in our in our food chain. Nobody knows 1336 01:18:16,020 --> 01:18:17,430 this. Nobody knows that's 1337 01:18:17,580 --> 01:18:19,830 let's take it up a level since they can't figure out what's 1338 01:18:19,860 --> 01:18:21,870 causing this to happen to the beach. I 1339 01:18:21,870 --> 01:18:23,070 have a theory on that. 1340 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,040 Well give me your theory, then I'll give you a theory that 1341 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,630 maybe will be bit more interesting. 1342 01:18:28,530 --> 01:18:31,050 Okay, well fuck you very much. I'll give you my very 1343 01:18:31,050 --> 01:18:35,190 interesting theory, which is that first of all, there are too 1344 01:18:35,190 --> 01:18:40,680 few crops. So we only have you know a few types of tomatoes 1345 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,680 left that are still being grown a few types of apples you know, 1346 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,620 there's really that that's a very limited supply. So there's 1347 01:18:46,650 --> 01:18:50,010 the diversity is being taken away from them. Secondly, 1348 01:18:50,190 --> 01:18:53,400 they're they're pollinating genetically modified shit, and 1349 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,280 it's, it's killing them, whatever it is, and it's killing 1350 01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,820 everything in everybody, this genetically modified organisms. 1351 01:19:00,180 --> 01:19:03,630 And that is what the problem is, it seems very clear to me John 1352 01:19:03,630 --> 01:19:06,060 C. Dvorak, you're a more interesting theory. 1353 01:19:07,980 --> 01:19:13,410 What if you had in the labs at let's say, Monsanto, a crop that 1354 01:19:13,410 --> 01:19:18,510 would self pollinate and would be owned by you with a patent 1355 01:19:18,510 --> 01:19:22,560 that would be very expensive to to sell. And in the process, you 1356 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:27,000 could find some way of poisoning the bees with either this or 1357 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,170 with previous crops as a setup as a marketing tool to get rid 1358 01:19:31,170 --> 01:19:34,470 of the bees so the people would have to buy the self pollinating 1359 01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:38,160 crop and continue to feed people because there wouldn't be enough 1360 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:39,840 bees to pollinate anything. 1361 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:46,350 You are now officially ruining the show. You are ruining the 1362 01:19:46,350 --> 01:19:50,610 damn show. You have taken it up to an extra level that I love. 1363 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,990 Absolutely. Absolutely. So I was thinking actually, it could have 1364 01:19:54,990 --> 01:19:56,910 been that they were creating there. I think it would be 1365 01:19:56,910 --> 01:20:00,240 smarter for Monsanto to create their own version. didn't have 1366 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,690 bees because they could then crossbreed those and turn them 1367 01:20:03,690 --> 01:20:06,810 into actual killer bees and they can be sold to the weapons 1368 01:20:06,810 --> 01:20:07,410 industry 1369 01:20:07,530 --> 01:20:11,730 now we find crazy but we'll just ignore that. 1370 01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,810 Wow so self pollinating genetically modified crops 1371 01:20:15,810 --> 01:20:19,980 that's right on dude. They won't have any customers left to eat 1372 01:20:19,980 --> 01:20:22,860 the shit after we all die but yeah great move 1373 01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:29,160 there you go there you have it now did I talk to you or not? 1374 01:20:29,190 --> 01:20:31,620 You did I'm dumbfounded I'm come 1375 01:20:35,490 --> 01:20:37,170 and play that game 1376 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,800 another another institution bites the dust 1377 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,280 which while you're talking about things dropping dead we have a 1378 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,340 real serious problem with the West Coast brown or sometimes 1379 01:20:47,340 --> 01:20:50,790 called California Pelican which are dropping out of the sky in 1380 01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:53,850 droves. They're hitting cars landing on boats so just just 1381 01:20:53,850 --> 01:20:57,930 rely on flying flying it Oh, boom dead. They come out of the 1382 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,290 sky like you know a big giant did like the size of a turkey. 1383 01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:05,610 And they you know, crash into the earth dead and weed and I 1384 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,630 noticed that because I go to the city a lot I noticed this last 1385 01:21:09,630 --> 01:21:13,530 year because every year when you're going across the Oakland 1386 01:21:13,530 --> 01:21:19,560 bridge, you you will see these usually three to six pelicans 1387 01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:22,860 flying the five beautiful bird to watch fly. I mean, you can't 1388 01:21:22,860 --> 01:21:25,200 keep your take your eyes off because they look like Terra Dak 1389 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,500 dolls, and they're usually low to the ground and they don't do 1390 01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:32,460 a lot of flapping they're just going like little stealth. jet 1391 01:21:32,460 --> 01:21:36,390 fighters should shooting usually blow to the water and they're 1392 01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:39,540 flying all over the place in the Bay Area. Especially. Especially 1393 01:21:39,540 --> 01:21:43,080 excuse me, especially here in Berkeley. There's a lot of these 1394 01:21:43,290 --> 01:21:48,150 pelicans I have seen none this year. None I've not seen a 1395 01:21:48,150 --> 01:21:49,980 pelican all season. 1396 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,270 Did you just see this in the chat room or did this this just 1397 01:21:54,270 --> 01:21:58,410 came up? Yeah, because no oh no, someone Oh, you blog that okay. 1398 01:21:58,470 --> 01:22:03,150 I blogged it yesterday. Ah and the Pelican is really one of the 1399 01:22:03,150 --> 01:22:05,130 most spectacular birds we have out here and that you know, 1400 01:22:05,130 --> 01:22:08,070 that's the reason the Pelican was why they banned DDT because 1401 01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:12,960 they determined that DDT and the pelicans diet even though I know 1402 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,510 how it got, I guess it got into through fish who ate the bugs 1403 01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:17,820 who had the DDI? Who knows, but whatever the case was, was 1404 01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:21,330 making their shells of the eggs too thin. And so then they 1405 01:22:21,780 --> 01:22:27,480 banned DDT for that particular reason. And who makes DDT? No, 1406 01:22:27,480 --> 01:22:30,420 but Well, I mean, I think Monsanto Chevron probably made 1407 01:22:30,420 --> 01:22:33,990 it for a while now. They don't make pesticides. They make 1408 01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:40,470 herbicides. So no, David, all the, you know, pesticide 1409 01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:43,800 companies made DDT was very common. But yeah, 1410 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:49,380 yeah, Monsanto began manufacturing DDT in 1944, along 1411 01:22:49,380 --> 01:22:50,850 with 15 other companies. 1412 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,170 Interesting. I didn't know that. Now they're behind everything. 1413 01:22:55,170 --> 01:22:58,740 But anyway, whatever the case, the pelicans have got something 1414 01:22:58,740 --> 01:22:59,730 going on. Right, who was the 1415 01:22:59,730 --> 01:23:02,790 CEO of Monsanto again, helped me remind me of his name. 1416 01:23:03,330 --> 01:23:05,160 I don't know. George Bush, wasn't it? 1417 01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:11,070 Rumsfeld? No, women. And Rochelle. We're not done. 1418 01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,440 Rumsfeld was with the aspartame company. 1419 01:23:15,780 --> 01:23:18,270 Well, he's been on different boards. I mean, he's basically a 1420 01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:19,560 political guy. 1421 01:23:20,250 --> 01:23:22,830 Rumsfeld, I thought he was the CEO. 1422 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,330 No, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. look him up. look him up. 1423 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:31,710 I am. I'm looking at right now. I'm telling his CEO of hurl 1424 01:23:32,610 --> 01:23:33,330 pearl. 1425 01:23:34,110 --> 01:23:37,770 Well, that's absurd. I'm sorry. Searle was surly manufacture 1426 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:43,200 surly manufacturer of aspartame, CEO of surly manufacturers of 1427 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,730 aspartame. Yeah, okay. Okay. So you know, that aspartame, which 1428 01:23:47,730 --> 01:23:50,580 of course is a sweetener that the FDA would not approve it. 1429 01:23:50,580 --> 01:23:53,700 But three months after he entered into the administration. 1430 01:23:55,980 --> 01:23:59,760 It mysteriously got approved. They'd been refusing it for 16 1431 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,900 years. 16 years because it killed lab mice, like half the 1432 01:24:03,900 --> 01:24:04,740 population. 1433 01:24:08,010 --> 01:24:08,820 Well, that's a good one. 1434 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,150 This is like one of the oldest conspiracy stories out there. 1435 01:24:12,150 --> 01:24:13,740 I'm surprised you didn't know about this. 1436 01:24:13,950 --> 01:24:16,590 I didn't know about it. I just you can't keep up with all this 1437 01:24:16,590 --> 01:24:17,280 stuff. Yeah, but 1438 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:23,010 I'm pretty sure I'm hold on Monsanto. I'm pretty sure that 1439 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,400 well, first of all, the Obamas guy is a Monsanto Monsanto guy, 1440 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:30,540 right? Which guy? Is this? The agriculture guy he just brought 1441 01:24:30,540 --> 01:24:30,840 in? 1442 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,520 Is that a Monsanto? Yeah. 1443 01:24:32,580 --> 01:24:36,180 And we talked about two weeks ago? No, of course not. 1444 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,160 That's not Obama and his boys are a bunch of green. He's a 1445 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,680 bunch of tree huggers, a bunch of environmentalists a bunch of 1446 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,870 people wanted to protect us. Yeah. Why would they put a 1447 01:24:45,870 --> 01:24:48,330 Monsanto guy in that doesn't make any sense that are living 1448 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,240 through chemistry. He's just following the programme. 1449 01:24:57,540 --> 01:25:00,900 So did you find anything That's about Rumsfeld. 1450 01:25:02,730 --> 01:25:06,360 I'm not looking for a flaming rum. So you know you how many 1451 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,610 how many hours do you hold on to make this show if we're going to 1452 01:25:08,610 --> 01:25:14,430 talk about Rumsfeld. Robert Shapiro is the Monsanto seat, 1453 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:21,750 Robert Shapiro. I'm thinking yeah, I'm pretty sure that there 1454 01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:25,800 was some good they've got to have their, their hands all in 1455 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:26,460 the government. 1456 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,440 So Robert Shapiro is the guy that the 1457 01:25:31,740 --> 01:25:40,860 economist No, no, this is the former CEO of Monsanto maybe 1458 01:25:40,860 --> 01:25:44,970 another guy anyway, the run sell things tells you enough right 1459 01:25:44,970 --> 01:25:45,750 there, doesn't it? 1460 01:25:47,310 --> 01:25:49,740 Yeah, well, that's pretty typical. I mean, but then we 1461 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,700 look at the SEC, you know, in the fact that they, you know, 1462 01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:57,630 were made are made off being the one of the founders and the and 1463 01:25:57,630 --> 01:25:59,460 the CEO of the NASDAQ. 1464 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,400 I mean, yeah, but then, of course, then meanwhile, he's of 1465 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,890 course giving I guess he sent a million dollars to one of his 1466 01:26:04,890 --> 01:26:07,470 friends in the last minute here or one of his family members, 1467 01:26:07,470 --> 01:26:09,840 and he's still roaming around free you know, even though I 1468 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:14,040 know Martha Stewart has been in jail by now beaten up. Yeah, 1469 01:26:14,370 --> 01:26:15,030 probed 1470 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,750 Martha Stewart is really is you know, I take a little bit of 1471 01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:24,360 pity on her I've met her several times, she used to work in our 1472 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:28,230 building, or I used to be in her building, I should say. And, and 1473 01:26:28,230 --> 01:26:31,590 her daughter was very nice. But man, they've been through some 1474 01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:36,120 rough rough times and just being a woman I think at the top of 1475 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,790 the company isn't as large as it used to be. But you know, that's 1476 01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:42,180 tough. It's a boys game. You know, it's it's it's still is a 1477 01:26:42,180 --> 01:26:47,430 boys game, I should say. unfairly so and and you get no 1478 01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:51,060 people hate, you know, it's just like a woman shot and of course, 1479 01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:54,480 you're automatically a bitch. Just because you have a 1480 01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:58,530 position. I have to say I never really saw a crack a smile when 1481 01:26:58,530 --> 01:27:02,460 I rode the elevator with her but I don't know her that well. Her 1482 01:27:02,460 --> 01:27:05,070 daughter is extremely nice. But you know, typically fucked up 1483 01:27:05,070 --> 01:27:08,550 kid. And I'm pretty sure that whole arresting there was, you 1484 01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:14,550 know, because she she lives with Bondi, I think his name is the 1485 01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:16,920 guy from Viacom. I'm sure there's all kinds of political 1486 01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,620 media shit wrapped up in that and someone's getting back at 1487 01:27:19,620 --> 01:27:22,560 someone for something. I mean, we know how politics works this 1488 01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:26,340 way. Just look at Blagojevich blog, a blog, a a which, 1489 01:27:26,580 --> 01:27:31,080 whatever his name is, was just impeached, you know, he's he was 1490 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,780 threatening, you know, he wanted to try to get people fired from 1491 01:27:33,780 --> 01:27:37,260 the board of Tribune for writing negative shit about him or 1492 01:27:37,260 --> 01:27:39,690 whoever. I mean, this is how it works people well, 1493 01:27:40,110 --> 01:27:43,860 a lot of people think the same thing was the case with the only 1494 01:27:43,860 --> 01:27:46,980 guy who was going in fact, they believed he was gonna go after 1495 01:27:47,610 --> 01:27:50,700 Madoff, like, you know, earlier, like years earlier and 1496 01:27:50,700 --> 01:27:53,640 embarrassed. The SEC was Eliot Spitzer. 1497 01:27:53,670 --> 01:27:56,940 And you said, You sent me that PDF file. We haven't even talked 1498 01:27:56,940 --> 01:28:00,840 about that. The the red flag document, 1499 01:28:01,290 --> 01:28:05,010 write some guy who was high up in the EU, he sent this a 1500 01:28:05,010 --> 01:28:09,000 apparently he won the SEC in 1999. And then warned him again, 1501 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,820 I guess was that Doc was written in 2003 or something like that. 1502 01:28:12,210 --> 01:28:14,790 And they paid no attention to it. And he had all the goods. He 1503 01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:17,100 said, here's why this is not this guy's not running a 1504 01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:20,310 legitimate business. Now, he said Ponzi scheme literally, 1505 01:28:20,700 --> 01:28:23,190 yeah, he says it has to be a Ponzi scheme. And he outlined 1506 01:28:23,190 --> 01:28:27,930 the reasons why with with math, he actually used mathematics and 1507 01:28:27,930 --> 01:28:30,750 showed that he can't be doing what he says he's doing. And 1508 01:28:30,750 --> 01:28:33,570 then he went on and on and and he also made note of the fact 1509 01:28:33,570 --> 01:28:36,420 that people like Goldman Sachs wouldn't do business with them. 1510 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:40,170 Because they knew Yeah, and all these other bits, a lot of these 1511 01:28:40,170 --> 01:28:42,600 banks wouldn't do business. And then of course, the irony is why 1512 01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,490 these guys weren't going to do business with them. A bunch of 1513 01:28:44,490 --> 01:28:48,120 dumb Swiss bankers did, which is like what are they thinking? I 1514 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:49,770 thought these guys were supposed to be the world's greatest 1515 01:28:49,770 --> 01:28:51,720 bankers. They just 1516 01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,650 got better secrecy. Or they had at one point. 1517 01:28:57,540 --> 01:29:00,450 People just don't connect these dots and it's it's frustrating 1518 01:29:00,450 --> 01:29:03,360 and particularly when it comes to the media. Now we've got 1519 01:29:03,390 --> 01:29:09,180 Davao happening again, devo, Switzerland's and those that I 1520 01:29:09,180 --> 01:29:14,640 say Davao, you say Davos, and as the World Economic Forum, and 1521 01:29:14,670 --> 01:29:19,020 everyone, which is laughable big wanker fest if Robert Scoble was 1522 01:29:19,020 --> 01:29:21,960 allowed in anything, it can't really be a serious economic 1523 01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:26,640 summit. Let's let's just be honest about it. But, you know, 1524 01:29:26,820 --> 01:29:29,910 Rupert Murdoch is going to be there. Yes. It's going to be 1525 01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:31,410 this huge. 1526 01:29:31,799 --> 01:29:33,839 Yeah, they all go there. They give you a little speech. It 1527 01:29:33,839 --> 01:29:37,469 looks like a complete waste of time, unless, of course, you're 1528 01:29:37,469 --> 01:29:40,409 a skier, because that's why people go to this thing so they 1529 01:29:40,409 --> 01:29:43,649 can ski right in the area, which has great skiing, 1530 01:29:43,770 --> 01:29:46,740 but that's what it is. It's a huge conference, and the guy who 1531 01:29:46,740 --> 01:29:49,770 runs the conference, it costs 50 grand, you know, just for a 1532 01:29:49,770 --> 01:29:53,880 booth. And it's a it's a huge profitable money making 1533 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:58,020 business. Right? It's just it's like it's like ces for Ugly 1534 01:29:58,020 --> 01:30:00,600 people. uglier people. I should say, 1535 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:06,570 Yeah, well it's definitely a it's, it's you know where these 1536 01:30:06,570 --> 01:30:08,820 guys get to socialise for a little bit that means a social 1537 01:30:08,820 --> 01:30:13,350 event is that doesn't mean anything they had. You do have a 1538 01:30:13,350 --> 01:30:16,470 few crackpots come up there and say a few things that are weird 1539 01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:18,960 but worthwhile. I didn't notice. I don't know that anybody that's 1540 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,690 ever economic summit over the last few years picked what 1541 01:30:21,690 --> 01:30:24,030 happened to the economy over the last since she 1542 01:30:24,030 --> 01:30:27,000 Yeah, where's that announcement from last year? Oh, we're headed 1543 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,390 for a horrible times now man, it was party on baby pass the 1544 01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:31,620 hookers and blow but he 1545 01:30:31,620 --> 01:30:35,460 brought up the Madoff. Nobody brought up to the ridiculous 1546 01:30:36,390 --> 01:30:39,090 housing bubble. Nobody brought anything. So what good is this 1547 01:30:39,090 --> 01:30:41,460 conference that they can't even spot the obvious? 1548 01:30:41,849 --> 01:30:43,709 Because what they're doing is they're all you're right. 1549 01:30:43,709 --> 01:30:47,189 They're all on the slopes going. Man, can you believe this shit, 1550 01:30:47,219 --> 01:30:50,309 we got a paid vacation. We all know the craps coming down. They 1551 01:30:50,309 --> 01:30:55,769 love it. I'm gonna predict as our one of our final topics here 1552 01:30:55,769 --> 01:30:57,569 up, it's going to be one that you'll be taught. If you're on 1553 01:30:57,569 --> 01:30:59,999 twit tomorrow, you'll be talking about so I want to make sure we 1554 01:30:59,999 --> 01:31:06,629 talk about it first. Obama has started to make noises that he 1555 01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:10,739 made the lay the switchover of digital television. Yeah, I 1556 01:31:10,739 --> 01:31:14,699 heard that. And, and there's a couple things. And so first of 1557 01:31:14,699 --> 01:31:17,129 all, why is this happening? 1558 01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,280 Why are they switching to digital? Yeah. Well, I mean, the 1559 01:31:23,310 --> 01:31:26,910 the what they say is so they could free up the that 700 1560 01:31:26,910 --> 01:31:31,920 megahertz area of bandwidth and use it for various, you know, 1561 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,690 it's got like high penetration. 1562 01:31:33,690 --> 01:31:36,180 And so you're saying this is a telecommunications lobby that 1563 01:31:36,180 --> 01:31:40,230 started five years ago, maybe even longer? Is probably seven 1564 01:31:40,230 --> 01:31:41,790 or eight years ago, they started the band 1565 01:31:41,790 --> 01:31:43,680 with the steel that the steel this band, 1566 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,460 right. So it was a money making scheme for the government? 1567 01:31:48,030 --> 01:31:51,660 Yeah, they're gonna auction this band off for billions. So 1568 01:31:51,690 --> 01:31:54,660 this is going to come to to a head because I think the media 1569 01:31:54,660 --> 01:31:58,410 companies are now lobbying Obama really heavily because they 1570 01:31:58,410 --> 01:32:01,050 stand to lose wasn't something like 10 million people in the 1571 01:32:01,050 --> 01:32:03,120 US, you know, aren't ready to switch. 1572 01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:07,320 And of course, they ran out of coupons and a million coupons 1573 01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,560 are, they're short, and people of course have no money to buy 1574 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,530 this 40 to $80 converter or 1575 01:32:13,530 --> 01:32:16,470 whatever, it's often at zero $80 is going to cost you 40 bucks a 1576 01:32:16,470 --> 01:32:19,440 pop for each TV. So I think they're not going to work very 1577 01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:22,230 well. Because you need a special antenna to pick up that signal. 1578 01:32:22,230 --> 01:32:26,850 You need a you need a UHF antenna. Yeah, fringe antenna a 1579 01:32:26,850 --> 01:32:29,190 good one to give you especially if you want to go through any 1580 01:32:29,190 --> 01:32:33,240 walls. I mean, I have direct access to the to the 1581 01:32:33,270 --> 01:32:36,360 are you receiving it? Do you have a DVB? Receiver? Yeah, 1582 01:32:36,630 --> 01:32:39,480 yeah, so I've been for I've been receiving it for a long time. 1583 01:32:39,480 --> 01:32:42,450 But, but I'm going to procure it, I don't understand how other 1584 01:32:42,450 --> 01:32:46,680 people are doing it. Because I'm using a fringe UHF antenna. And 1585 01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,740 looking out the window of my house, I can see the 1586 01:32:49,740 --> 01:32:52,170 transmitter, it's over on the side 1587 01:32:52,260 --> 01:32:54,990 of the bed, you have line of sight and you can't receive it, 1588 01:32:55,470 --> 01:32:59,700 I can receive it, but I have line of sight. And and I get you 1589 01:32:59,700 --> 01:33:02,100 know still it breaks up once a while somebody walks in front of 1590 01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:04,800 the antenna. I mean, the thing is pretty flaky compared to a 1591 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:10,620 regular VHF analogue signal. It's beautiful, though, by the 1592 01:33:10,620 --> 01:33:13,950 way. So it's million times better in the sound of Dolby 5.1 1593 01:33:13,950 --> 01:33:17,490 comes Crusher, sure, over the years a way to go if you can get 1594 01:33:17,490 --> 01:33:19,860 it, but I don't think a lot of people can do that. 1595 01:33:21,660 --> 01:33:24,090 Well, there's a substantial amount of people and these, of 1596 01:33:24,090 --> 01:33:26,580 course, are the you know, the people that do count in the 1597 01:33:26,580 --> 01:33:30,540 Nielsen ratings, who just are you know, are are going to lose 1598 01:33:30,540 --> 01:33:33,510 out and the fear is what I'm reading is that people may just, 1599 01:33:33,540 --> 01:33:36,300 you know, give up on television altogether. Oh, please. Oh, 1600 01:33:36,300 --> 01:33:36,780 please. 1601 01:33:37,710 --> 01:33:40,650 So one of the things that you know, that cracks me up is they 1602 01:33:40,650 --> 01:33:42,840 have all these ads, they've been running, I'm constantly about to 1603 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:45,840 switch over to digital, and I've written about this. And I'm 1604 01:33:46,020 --> 01:33:49,140 convinced that half the public because we've dumbed down in 1605 01:33:49,140 --> 01:33:52,200 America, they don't know anything. They think that if 1606 01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:55,350 they have a you know, a digital tuner, you know that in other 1607 01:33:55,350 --> 01:33:58,740 words, it has numbers that pop up if you push buttons that they 1608 01:33:58,740 --> 01:34:02,010 have a digital TV, they don't know the difference. I mean to 1609 01:34:02,010 --> 01:34:04,290 say you know, it's like you know, you just use the word 1610 01:34:04,290 --> 01:34:06,390 digital doesn't mean anything to them they don't understand 1611 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:11,130 digital ready. I have a digital TV that someone could say 1612 01:34:11,130 --> 01:34:14,490 because look i in the naked show that there's like a 12 blinking 1613 01:34:16,890 --> 01:34:19,740 that means is digital, doesn't it? And they don't know any 1614 01:34:19,740 --> 01:34:20,670 difference. So they don't think 1615 01:34:21,060 --> 01:34:24,510 I can't see I cannot see how the media industry agreed to this 1616 01:34:24,510 --> 01:34:28,020 because all I see is there's going to be more more channels 1617 01:34:28,020 --> 01:34:31,800 available. And when you have more channels than it's this 1618 01:34:31,830 --> 01:34:35,190 cable the cable model is very hard to get huge ratings and 1619 01:34:35,190 --> 01:34:40,710 it's just it's it is going to kill or maybe it's just the 1620 01:34:40,710 --> 01:34:43,800 final you know, shot in the head the Mercy shot for the 1621 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,040 television industry is looking at newspapers are closing left 1622 01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:51,390 and right. And they're all going digital. What was it there was 1623 01:34:51,390 --> 01:34:53,550 another there was another paper up for sale just the other day 1624 01:34:53,550 --> 01:34:55,500 if no one buys it, they're gonna you know, then they're gonna 1625 01:34:56,190 --> 01:34:59,160 post until the post Intelligencer. Right. So no 1626 01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:00,450 one's gonna buy it. If Horse? 1627 01:35:01,290 --> 01:35:03,810 No, and hearse you know, that first owns it and they are now 1628 01:35:03,810 --> 01:35:05,910 and you know, the idea was that they could buy the Seattle 1629 01:35:05,910 --> 01:35:08,880 Times. But Hearst, you know, pulled the you know, they had 1630 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,160 the examiner in the San Francisco Bay area and they sold 1631 01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:14,550 it so they could buy the Chronicle and own the market. So 1632 01:35:14,550 --> 01:35:18,330 they bought the Chronicle, then the word on the street is that 1633 01:35:18,330 --> 01:35:22,260 they're losing a million dollars a week no trying to, oh, we have 1634 01:35:22,770 --> 01:35:25,800 a week and they're trying to get rid of this thing. It's a debt. 1635 01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,290 So they're not going to touch another newspaper, especially 1636 01:35:28,290 --> 01:35:30,390 the Seattle Times, which they figure is going to be the same 1637 01:35:30,390 --> 01:35:33,870 thing. And you know, so they're just gonna bail out there. They 1638 01:35:33,870 --> 01:35:36,540 may, they may just abandon the property. 1639 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,800 Just like give it up and just like close the door. And that's 1640 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,280 it. Just walk away. It could happen. I mean, that in some 1641 01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,980 cases, that's the best, the best solution is like, Alright, we're 1642 01:35:46,980 --> 01:35:50,220 done. They must have a mountain of debt on that thing already. 1643 01:35:50,940 --> 01:35:53,610 Dad's probably building. Yeah, well, 1644 01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:58,290 whatever. So but what is our trusted news to us, that's a 1645 01:35:58,290 --> 01:36:00,420 jump, I'm putting my foot down, we're just going to have to 1646 01:36:00,420 --> 01:36:03,210 become the trusted news source, we're gonna have to become the 1647 01:36:03,210 --> 01:36:08,760 new source of record. Because someone's got 1648 01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:12,120 to do it. We're better than some things, but whatever the case 1649 01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,820 is, yeah, that's bad. But anyway, back to the analogue 1650 01:36:14,850 --> 01:36:18,510 switch over to from digital. So anyway, the other thing that 1651 01:36:18,510 --> 01:36:20,820 they had was, I think, the reason they're gonna put us 1652 01:36:20,850 --> 01:36:23,790 they're not gonna let this thing I think Obama's gonna manage to 1653 01:36:23,790 --> 01:36:26,460 get it put off a little waste, because I think what's gonna 1654 01:36:26,460 --> 01:36:28,830 happen with it, because if you watch these ads, or if there's 1655 01:36:28,830 --> 01:36:32,730 a, if you have a problem with your digital transition at some 1656 01:36:32,730 --> 01:36:34,680 doesn't work, here's a number to call, this is going to be the 1657 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,770 number to call, and you're just going to be some helpline in 1658 01:36:37,770 --> 01:36:41,130 India, yes. But the fact of the matter is, if somebody goes, 1659 01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:45,630 what's really going to happen, I am an old woman, and I, not 1660 01:36:45,660 --> 01:36:48,630 literally, but sure people listeners think so. But so I'm, 1661 01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,270 let's say, I'm at some theoretical old woman somewhere, 1662 01:36:51,270 --> 01:36:54,810 and I turn on Channel Five, after the switch over and is 1663 01:36:54,810 --> 01:36:58,350 dead. So I don't think much about it, then I turn around a 1664 01:36:58,350 --> 01:37:01,290 turn on channel seven, it's and they're all dead. And so then, 1665 01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,060 although I think they're gonna probably be broadcasting a 1666 01:37:03,060 --> 01:37:06,300 message saying, Look, dummy, you should have done this. But let's 1667 01:37:06,300 --> 01:37:09,030 just say that whatever the case is, I'm not going to call the 1668 01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:12,450 government number, I'm going to call the station and ask them 1669 01:37:12,450 --> 01:37:15,990 what the heck happened to my, my, my show. So all these 1670 01:37:15,990 --> 01:37:19,350 stations are going to be inundated with phone calls, 1671 01:37:19,350 --> 01:37:21,600 because that's the only number people can find in the phone 1672 01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,300 booth. They don't have to call the government number here. 1673 01:37:24,330 --> 01:37:24,660 Okay, 1674 01:37:24,690 --> 01:37:27,210 it all clicked together, finally, understand, and we're 1675 01:37:27,210 --> 01:37:30,480 talking about a potential seven to 10 million people who will 1676 01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:34,230 have this problem. So let's say we're going to get we're going 1677 01:37:34,230 --> 01:37:37,950 to generate millions of calls, the number is one 800, call 1678 01:37:37,950 --> 01:37:41,100 FEMA, and they come to your house, if you if you are 1679 01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:43,830 incapable of switching to digital, they take you to one of 1680 01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:45,180 their FEMA camps. 1681 01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:48,840 And then they kill you. 1682 01:37:51,900 --> 01:37:55,830 It makes so much sense. Look, I don't understand how sorry for 1683 01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:58,620 saying look, but I really don't understand how the media 1684 01:37:58,620 --> 01:38:05,760 industry agreed to a dilution, a dilution of their monopoly. I 1685 01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:09,900 just don't get it. So there's got to be something or maybe I'm 1686 01:38:09,900 --> 01:38:13,740 mistaken, and it's just one for one digital, but I would believe 1687 01:38:13,740 --> 01:38:16,260 that they're going to have more channels now. And so those 1688 01:38:16,260 --> 01:38:20,040 I actually challenged, like, for example, KQED here in the Bay 1689 01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:25,350 Area, which has HD they have, they have I think four or five 1690 01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:28,290 channels, at least three that I that I have, because I 1691 01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:30,690 so that's so that's it all the stations are going to have are 1692 01:38:30,690 --> 01:38:33,240 going to have to produce more crap, they have to fill up more 1693 01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,660 channels with a lot of other people under these airwaves like 1694 01:38:36,900 --> 01:38:41,730 us. Channel Seven kg yo station, which is ABC has three channels, 1695 01:38:41,730 --> 01:38:44,640 they have the regular feed, which is the network fee, which 1696 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,030 is an HD, then they have a feed of like weird old movies or 1697 01:38:48,030 --> 01:38:49,890 something that they're showing on a second channel. And then 1698 01:38:49,890 --> 01:38:54,450 the third challenge is weather. And there's a cake I think it's 1699 01:38:54,450 --> 01:38:59,580 KTVU and other one of the local stations has the regular feed 1700 01:38:59,580 --> 01:39:04,230 Fox feed on the on the main tube dash one, and then I think two 1701 01:39:04,230 --> 01:39:06,720 dash two or two dash three or something like that I think 1702 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:10,080 exists. But there's a couple of stations that have cameras that 1703 01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,450 are just around the Bay Area that show you traffic, and 1704 01:39:12,450 --> 01:39:15,690 that's 24/7 It'd be the most popular channel, you know that 1705 01:39:17,250 --> 01:39:21,090 the Weather Channel? It's like it's ridiculous. I mean, what's 1706 01:39:21,090 --> 01:39:23,490 the point of broadcasting some of this stuff? You know, I don't 1707 01:39:23,490 --> 01:39:29,100 know, it's baffling to me. Well, the KQED the KQED folks do 1708 01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:30,720 actually a pretty good job because they have their main 1709 01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,240 feed and they have the two of the digital feeds which have 1710 01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:37,650 like shows like NOVA from last week and Charlie rose on the 1711 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:42,690 dawn that really this the old fashion, the just the DTV is not 1712 01:39:42,690 --> 01:39:46,680 an HD. And then I think there's a kid's thing and something 1713 01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:49,230 else. It's just as a lot of weird little channels and then 1714 01:39:49,230 --> 01:39:51,960 all these and then what's really weird is if you go up higher, 1715 01:39:52,170 --> 01:39:54,330 there's a bunch of these religious stations that have 1716 01:39:54,330 --> 01:39:57,480 never existed before. And they're just you know, basically 1717 01:39:57,480 --> 01:40:00,720 preaching constantly and I am 1718 01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:04,920 seeing more and more religious broadcasts, broadcast channels 1719 01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:11,160 pop up. We now on my sky box, I think we have 15 And there's God 1720 01:40:11,190 --> 01:40:17,160 one god to God three, you know, inspiration, hope and glory. 1721 01:40:17,190 --> 01:40:20,790 It's just time that a lot of them are a US base, but they're 1722 01:40:20,940 --> 01:40:26,370 some apparently, like from the Caribbean. Some UK it's just 1723 01:40:26,370 --> 01:40:31,200 it's everywhere and even on the radio I'm receiving Radio Maria, 1724 01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:34,980 which is a Dutch religious station. I mean, it's, it's 1725 01:40:34,980 --> 01:40:38,820 crazy. They get the best transmitters they get they get 1726 01:40:38,820 --> 01:40:41,640 all the coverage, you always notice that whenever you're, 1727 01:40:42,150 --> 01:40:44,400 we're back in the day. I mean, it's not like this anymore. But 1728 01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:48,720 back when we just had radios in our car and am at that which 1729 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,660 station John always had the cleanest, clearest best 1730 01:40:51,660 --> 01:40:54,240 reception and the strongest signal. He was always the 1731 01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:55,290 classical station. 1732 01:40:56,790 --> 01:40:58,380 Yeah, the classical station typically 1733 01:40:58,470 --> 01:40:59,880 always sounds the best. 1734 01:40:59,910 --> 01:41:02,760 And it used to be I always used to be a number of classical 1735 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,490 stations. Now you're lucky in any maybe you can even get one 1736 01:41:05,490 --> 01:41:09,180 classical station. Yeah, yeah, we have one in the Bay Area. 1737 01:41:09,180 --> 01:41:11,310 It's I don't think there's another one then, you know, the 1738 01:41:11,850 --> 01:41:14,850 radio stations that used to play stuff like that. Now just play 1739 01:41:14,850 --> 01:41:21,270 either green propaganda or, or shows or, you know, so 1740 01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:24,360 if in our vast audience of hundreds of 1000s If there is 1741 01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,930 anyone who programmes a classical music radio station, 1742 01:41:28,290 --> 01:41:34,560 may I give you some advice? Do not play marching band music in 1743 01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,820 the morning. It does not excite your audience. Okay, no one 1744 01:41:38,820 --> 01:41:42,660 gives a shit about marching bands in the morning drive time 1745 01:41:42,660 --> 01:41:47,010 slot. Okay, play something soothing. That's why we tune 1746 01:41:47,010 --> 01:41:47,700 into you. 1747 01:41:48,210 --> 01:41:50,490 You know this, they're talking about that, that kind of 1748 01:41:50,490 --> 01:41:55,290 complaint. When I'm up in northern Washington, we I have a 1749 01:41:55,290 --> 01:41:57,870 radio that looks for that I have this one, the one classical 1750 01:41:57,870 --> 01:42:01,350 station I can find where I live is out coming out of either 1751 01:42:01,350 --> 01:42:06,750 Victoria or Vancouver, Canada. And they play like classical 1752 01:42:06,750 --> 01:42:10,950 music that is like weird avant garde classical stuff. That is 1753 01:42:10,950 --> 01:42:14,550 really depressing. And I can't put my finger on who's 1754 01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:18,000 programming this this crap. But it's unlist coming 1755 01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:24,180 out of a predetermined selector system. You they buy these they 1756 01:42:24,180 --> 01:42:29,460 buy the shit off the shelf at what's the the broadcast 1757 01:42:29,460 --> 01:42:34,920 Conference in? Vegas, NAB NAB, right? They buy it off the shelf 1758 01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,440 with the library. It comes pre programmed, you know what 1759 01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:40,680 selector is? Right? You've seen selector? Yeah, yeah. So it 1760 01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,320 comes pre programmed, and they don't know what to do people. 1761 01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:46,860 This is a business. You know, most of these who's really good 1762 01:42:46,860 --> 01:42:50,640 at it is sky sky has this so well. And all across Europe. 1763 01:42:50,850 --> 01:42:54,270 They've just got you know, a roomful of computer servers. And 1764 01:42:54,270 --> 01:42:56,820 I've seen this homegrown stuff, it runs on a Mac. It's 1765 01:42:56,820 --> 01:43:01,410 fascinating. And, and, you know, they just dropped in the voice 1766 01:43:01,410 --> 01:43:04,770 files and they just have the same shit crank out everywhere 1767 01:43:04,770 --> 01:43:08,250 across the globe. But it's not I know, rarely to some thought go 1768 01:43:08,250 --> 01:43:09,990 into it. You know, it's classical 1769 01:43:09,990 --> 01:43:13,680 dad. We're done. Now and I look at when a San Francisco seems to 1770 01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:14,670 be pretty. This is 1771 01:43:14,670 --> 01:43:18,120 the art that is lost. This is the so thank God, I love 1772 01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:21,990 podcasting. But the last part of the art is turning on the radio 1773 01:43:21,990 --> 01:43:25,170 in the morning. And based upon what's going on in the city 1774 01:43:25,170 --> 01:43:29,160 based upon the weather based upon the meme of the day. The 1775 01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:33,540 guy on the radio is playing songs that fit with it. That is 1776 01:43:33,540 --> 01:43:34,530 the lost art. 1777 01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:37,530 Yeah, well, it's lost art because they had to pay him. 1778 01:43:38,610 --> 01:43:42,240 Oh, yeah, shit. We forgot about that minor detail. deejays are 1779 01:43:42,510 --> 01:43:46,320 the lowest paid the bottom of the show business ladder, the 1780 01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:48,330 bottom rung. And it's 1781 01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:56,070 there, they're kind of like charter pilots. You can always 1782 01:43:56,070 --> 01:43:59,190 tell it to a DJ because he has a U haul trailer hooked up to his 1783 01:43:59,190 --> 01:44:02,640 car. Ready to move to the next market? 1784 01:44:04,020 --> 01:44:06,480 Like the song says W O LD 1785 01:44:09,090 --> 01:44:12,360 So moving to the next market, I think we run out of time guy we 1786 01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,610 really ran through this one fastly shit, you're 1787 01:44:14,610 --> 01:44:17,670 right. I wasn't even paying attention. Well, hopefully, it 1788 01:44:17,670 --> 01:44:20,190 recorded I know something on the stream work because 1789 01:44:20,610 --> 01:44:24,210 Eric doesn't sound like yeah, 1790 01:44:24,570 --> 01:44:27,450 I'm just saying Hey, how come I put a big 1791 01:44:27,480 --> 01:44:28,770 echo on the thing you know? 1792 01:44:29,669 --> 01:44:36,299 Just to add to the ambiance Yeah, 144 Oh, it'll give those 1793 01:44:36,329 --> 01:44:38,969 guys a yo agenda, something to complain about. 1794 01:44:41,130 --> 01:44:43,590 So you can check me out channel devora.com 1795 01:44:43,650 --> 01:44:46,860 I'm channel curry.com, which I'm just loving what Eric put 1796 01:44:46,860 --> 01:44:48,630 together for me. That's fantastic. 1797 01:44:49,050 --> 01:44:52,200 And then also we have Bubba doing the show notes. He'll be 1798 01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:54,960 covering the putting it on the cage match. 1799 01:44:55,230 --> 01:44:57,600 And we have a whole bunch of people on the talk show system 1800 01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:02,370 but no one has actually dialled in so oh Women. Now, Bob is 1801 01:45:02,370 --> 01:45:02,970 dialled in. 1802 01:45:04,710 --> 01:45:06,570 Well, maybe we'll get to Bob sometime in the future. 1803 01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,550 We do have the capability to take calls that no I just want 1804 01:45:11,550 --> 01:45:13,680 to I just want to try something just to know that it actually 1805 01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,650 works. So we haven't. Where did he go? He hung up. 1806 01:45:18,750 --> 01:45:20,370 drew attention to him. So oh, 1807 01:45:20,670 --> 01:45:23,340 hey, Bob. Are you there? Yeah, here 1808 01:45:24,330 --> 01:45:25,740 it is on Skype. Probably. 1809 01:45:25,860 --> 01:45:31,350 Wow, it sounds terrible. On my iPhone, it's probably that bad. 1810 01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:35,280 Yeah. Thanks, Bob. It sounds it sounds like Yeah, thanks, Bob. 1811 01:45:35,310 --> 01:45:37,920 It sounds like shortwave. It doesn't 1812 01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,710 work. If you call in on Skype. It has to be a minimum. It has 1813 01:45:40,710 --> 01:45:43,170 to be a cell phone. It just doesn't work. It sounds like 1814 01:45:43,170 --> 01:45:43,620 shit. 1815 01:45:45,750 --> 01:45:47,400 So okay, all right. 1816 01:45:47,550 --> 01:45:50,040 All right. John was great talking to you as always have 1817 01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:51,570 yourself a good week. You got any plans? 1818 01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:55,560 No, no, nothing exciting is always 1819 01:45:55,590 --> 01:45:58,650 coming to you. from Gitmo nation East in the United Kingdom, the 1820 01:45:58,650 --> 01:46:00,750 southwestern corner. I'm Adam curry. 1821 01:46:01,530 --> 01:46:05,160 I'm in northern Silicon Valley, also known as get mo nation West 1822 01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:08,280 for the moment. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk 1823 01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,410 to you again next week on no agenda.