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It's recommended by the office
of the president elect an

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essential part of a balanced
media diet. It's no agenda

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coming to you on this end from
the United Kingdom. I'm Adam

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curry.

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And I'm John C. Dvorak here in
Silicon Valley northwards

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another hot day.

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Oh, and you are awake John.
You're you're you're energetic.

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I just You I took the read. I
flew in from from New York this

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morning. So

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and boy yo,

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bada boom, bada boom, bada boom.
Yeah, actually from Newark. I

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love flying out of Newark. What
a great airport.

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He liked Newark.

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Oh, yeah, it's it is the most
undervalued of the tri state

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area. It is fantastic. It's
usually much easier to get to

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from the city as less.

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I think it's easier to get to
LaGuardia. It'd be honest about

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it.

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Yeah, but then LaGuardia itself
is such a pain in the ass

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experience. You know, new wasn't
big at all given airport and you

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can't fly to I don't think you
can fly from London. from

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LaGuardia. You

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can't fly coast to coast to
LaGuardia. It's only for Midwest

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and east coast. jumpers. Puddle
jumpers. Yeah.

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So ah, so I'm a little bit. I'm
less energetic than you are

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today. I guess,

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though. So you were you were in
New York with all that with the

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guys. Yeah, it

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was the full week. You didn't
know that?

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No, I didn't know that. I knew
that. Jeff and Ron were in New

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York, but I didn't know you were
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yet. Well, it was really
important. First of all, you

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know, this was our big, go to
see all the all the advertising

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agencies are really the media
buying agencies. But also, Jeff

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carpooled, who's been in the
company, what all of six weeks

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now. You know, we need a little
bonding experience, you know,

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what the hell do you know? I
mean, we talked to the guy for

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months before we asked him to
join the company as CEO. It

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doesn't mean you actually know
the guy.

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No, what I mean, she take him
out drinking

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out well, dude. As I said, it
was bonding. Not everything is

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appropriate. Now, but that's
really important. You know, you

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get to know a guy you get to
know his jokes. You get to know

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what he likes to eat in the
morning. You know, I've known

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Ron for 14 years. You know, it's
it's different.

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How was New York?

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I love New York. Once again.
You're borderline New Yorker. I

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and I have to say I'm an even
with what they've done with Time

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Square. I think it's actually
improved it. I really, I think

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they've done a great job
Broadway looks,

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technically is fine. Yeah,
they've improved I mean ever

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since Giuliani got in two
places. But it doesn't have its

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old charm of hookers and
muggers.

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No, no, no, no, I disagree that
muggers. Yeah. There's not as

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many muggers. In fact, I didn't
see any. But it does still have

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the charm, you know? Yeah, not.
It's not exactly that way. I'm

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40s. But look, we were doing
business in New York. It's still

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the same buildings. It's still
you know, kind of the crappy

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elevators every day. The wind is
whistling through the buildings.

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Rooms are too hot or too cold.
You know, it rains the guys with

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the $10 Umbrellas come out. You
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New York, John. Yeah, but that's
not just yeah, that's all over

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the city.

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And flashed answers is still
they're doing fine. I might add.

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You go there. Yeah, of course.
Really took Jeff.

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No, no. I went by myself by
yourself. Yeah, I had like three

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hours to kill before before I
was getting picked up for the

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airport. Like what am I gonna
do? I'm already checked out of

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the hotel. I got literally three
hours. It's drizzling. And I'm

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like, no, because from our
hotel, I could literally see

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David Letterman's place the
what's relevant theatre? Yeah.

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Which has no beautiful Letterman
tonight show signs outside and I

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thought, oh, yeah, he's always
taught you I was always shown

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flash dancer. So I wonder where
that is. And so I get out Mike,

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ever been in here before? No, I
haven't been to flash dancer. So

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I get on my Google phone. And I
typed in Flash dancers New York.

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It's like, Oh, it's right across
the street around the corner. So

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I had a $10 beer that was pretty
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the girls recognise, you

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know, not too bad. But it was it
was very dark. And I went empty.

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Because of course Wall Street is
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Yeah, well, it should have been
a lot of guys in there crying,

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you know. And

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a couple of I was talking to the
girls and they said yeah, the

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when Lehman Brothers went down,
which is not far from there,

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there were guys who came in and
she said there were whitish

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sheets and they were crying and
and since then, business has

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only 30% of what it will have
what it was, before all the

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malaise started.

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Businesses only 30% 30% Was it
flashed answers you mean to tell

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me that that place was supported
by Wall Street?

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No. You think Unbeliev Are you
kidding me? That's when all

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these places are supported by
the guys who are in these strip

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joints are the sleaze buckets
who are taking getting hundreds

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of millions of dollars in
bonuses because that's all they

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did they take that money go down
to flash dancers or scores or

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string fellows or whatever. And
spend 1000s on not getting laid.

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Yeah, that's about it getting
getting rubbed up well go see

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Alexei

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massages your wallet. Yeah.

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So that was I think that was
part of why I wanted to go in

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there to find out how that was
doing. Because when when we had

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bank clients in New York,

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that's the reason okay, I get
it. Well, you know, it was it

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was part research. I'm writing
it off. To my friend of mine who

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used to be a major book writer,
I should mention his name, and

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maybe I shouldn't but he used to
be a writer for PC Magazine

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lived in New York, a major major
Windows book writer put up

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windows tattoo on himself. Oh,
me became a iFish aficionado of

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all the strip places in
Manhattan, really? first name

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basis with all the girls. So I
said, Well, geez, you gotta take

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me around. And Excellent.
Excellent. So he took me around,

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I met all these different girls
who were all just, you know,

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they Oh, you know, they were
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themselves. When I saw him, I
guess he was a big tipper. And

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they all everyone knew him and
you know, I'm wandering around

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like a fifth wheel. And but
anyway, we went to that place

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flashbangs when they were
closing, so we stayed after they

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closed. Oh, that's fun, man. The
while some of the couple of

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girls come sit down so they can
talk to him. I be resisting

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saying his first name. And so
one of them sits down and you

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know, we get into a
conversation. The first thing

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they do is they tear off their
pasties, dog pasties and they

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just they just hate these things
and it's terrible so they're

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sitting there with

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pasties in Flash

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I used to have well then these
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1930 John when they sell a
tassels right no

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these paces you can't see them.
It looks just looks like it's a

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piece of steel. It's clear goo.

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Either worn and keep it keep it
up or what is it?

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No, it's for just a base as to
what to when Giuliani came in.

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They required this and that it
was a way of getting around

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flaunting the

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law. Oh, but they weren't
completely topless here.

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Yeah, well, you can't see this
stuff. Anyway, so

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they think I was close enough to
know John. Okay, well

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they apparently were dig changed
the law but anyway, they didn't

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take us anywhere. They're
sitting down beside the point of

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the story. Yes. So they're
sitting there naked essentially

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with a G string. And so one of
them talked about you know, she

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said Well, you know, I like to
get out of this town I'd like to

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go someplace else but you know,
I'm a stripper and I just have

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to find someplace else to go I'm
just wearing sugar daddy It was

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all my my infinite wisdom said
you want to go to Atlanta a

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million strip clubs down there
and it's really pleasant down

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there

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was a Cheetos is that in
Atlanta?

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Big time was the gold club
cheetah three cheetah four.

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There's a bunch of places
crawling with them.

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Once again, you amaze me, you
are an aficionado in truly

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everything. You know some about
everything.

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Now this is a ladies and
gentlemen is an example of

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somebody stepping all over your
material. Sorry. So anyway, so I

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tell I say to the girl was
sitting there with her friend,

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nothing, basically nothing on
and I said you should go to

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Atlanta and she she pipes up
kind of adamantly and says, Hmm,

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I would never do that. They
dance new down there. Man I just

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stood I was I couldn't speak
after that. It was just like,

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what?

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Well, I think it's a fine
service. And I'm all for it.

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It's just a bunch of girls that
cake, get to work otherwise and

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usually have a pretty cute
figure.

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Now the girl I met was Polish
and she was she was she was

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going to she was studying
business. And she was

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supplementing her student income
by working three days a week.

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Yeah, right.

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Man, so anyway, favourite.

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You know, there's a couple of I
don't like these clubs, by the

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way for anyone out there wants
to know. Because I at some

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point, when you're younger you
go, you go to these places, and

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I went, they've actually gone
through two iterations of these

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things. And

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it's boring and expensive at the
end of the day.

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Well, it did the expense. You
know, actually, you know, it's

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not as expensive as it could be.
And it's not as expensive as

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some of those mops mopped up
places where they really take

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you for everything you have. But
I have taken it upon myself

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because you run into a lot of
people that get to go to

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Manhattan and you know, they're
from out of town or whatever

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they want to and they want to go
to these plays. I'm talking I go

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to a business meeting with some
like big software company.

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That's always pathetic. That's
pathetic. Oh, hey, we're not

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home. Our wives are away. We're
all guys together. Let's go to a

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strip bar and drink at hoot and
holler who's Yeah, I hate that.

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Well, the worst so I so I
usually make sure to go not

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because of the strip club but to
keep these guys from getting

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ripped off.

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And now I know who you're
talking about. Yes. Okay.

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And so I mean, so you go in and
the you know, you just see the I

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mean these these girls are like
vultures and especially when

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they they they can spot these
out of town guys a mile away and

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heart and they can they sort
they swarm and then they come in

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and the next thing you know that
just it's just you can just see

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the money they talk these guys
in the Bible ridiculous the

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price crappy champagne, one
thing after another, and I have

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actually, in more than one
occasion, insisted that they

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leave immediately. And I did
without explanation. So you have

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to go now. Yeah, just take my
word for it. You know, I do it

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into some sort of a way that
makes it sound like something as

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something bad's gonna

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happen. Because something bad is
about to happen. Yeah.

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Bad is about them. And I get
them out of there.

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Yeah, we used to have to take
guys, they're all when

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we go to those places, people.
Ah, when we

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took the thing to ideas public
right after we hit the tape, as

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they call it, that and so after
the market closed that day, then

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all the all the traders who had
because when you go public, it's

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a whole event, a whole company,
there's a whole bunch of stuff

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that happens actually, that's
almost worth the book, just

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writing about that experience.
So do it. And then they're like,

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Hey, come on, let's let's I
think it was It wasn't scores,

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it was some other one. I can
remember where it was. Let's go.

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And so I was like, you know that
it was the typical thing like 15

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Guys, you know, and they all
made money that day off of our

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company. We didn't but our
company had money now to go and

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grow and be an operate, which
was fun. But I remember we all

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sat in the private room and then
these guys are getting

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completely wrecked and they're
getting sweaty. And the ties are

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halfway off and we were one guy
is leaning over to the one Hey,

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man, can you spot me 1000 bucks.
I'm not liquid right now. I'm

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not liquid

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1000 bucks. 1000 bucks. Yeah,

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and you know, and it was bad.
Icky, icky, at best but this was

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just, you know, I was like, I
just wanted to get a beer just

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want to go sit and go hey, what
the hell. So

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let's you learn something. In
fact, if you can get a couple of

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these, in fact, if you can get
some of these girls into like an

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honest conversation which is
possible, because they you know,

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most of them are just you know,
sleeves a lot of them are idiots

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Yeah, you find out some
interesting things. And well,

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this

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was a typic Well, this shoe fit
the profile you know, from

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Poland goes back once a year I
think she sends money back when

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she wants to. She's studying
business and children's

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psychology. I don't know what
she was pretty.

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There's some of these

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might have been for real please
let me have my fantasy. Let me

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have my fantasy stop. Anyway I
have heavier in my hands

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a way before it before you
finish that let me just mention

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one more thing if anybody wants
to you know if you if you like

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Chris Rock bliss find a copy
which is all over the internet

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of there's no sex in the
champagne room.

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Oh, I should take a look at
that. I have in my hands a VHS

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tape and has an old MTV Networks
ink label on it. And I got this

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from a good good friend of mine
had to had to be in New York to

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get a hold of it. And it has
eight years worth of MTV

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outtakes of all of your
favourite DJs the ones that

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never made the air

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Yeah, you on there.

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Oh yeah. All of us and are we
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to put post the ones of you on
media now we're going to put

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every single one of them up. Oh,
you got permission. No.

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No, in fact, I'm not allowed to
say who I got it from and I said

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look, I'm gonna put it up in a
burn me vo bug in it. So if we

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get a cease and desist, someone
will upload it to YouTube to

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live on in perpetuity. It's
great material. And the reason

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why I'm doing this a because
they didn't invite me for the

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headbangers ball, reunion and
now they're doing the last TRL

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Total Request Live which of
course started as dial and TV.

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Another show I was doing years
ago and they're not inviting me

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to that. So I'm inviting all of
them to my party

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on MVNO. How come you became
persona non grata?

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Well, dude, I quit on air then
we had a huge lawsuit.

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Well, what do you expect them to
invite you to these things for

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then?

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Well, that shouldn't be so
childish.

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It's just business.

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Exactly. It's for us. It's just
not for me. It's personal. So

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I'm putting that up. That'll be
fun. I just now but now I got to

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find a VHS machine so I can
digitise this stuff. Oh, I went

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to the all the camera shops on
along Broadway and no and

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couple. They didn't even have
VHS players anymore.

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Just find some you know Some
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production house and digitised
schmooze them, they'll do it for

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free. That's why I got a hate
for it and you know, I'll pay

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for it.

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I just got to find someone who
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those two or three places there,
they'll do it. But this will do

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a better job than you'll do.

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But this stuff is Thank you.
These outtakes are not just you

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know, bloopers. It's not like
America's Funniest Home Videos

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or some stupid shit like that,
or like something you'd see on

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the channel. This is stuff
where, you know, you could be

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doing a segment and and it's on
tape anyway. So it's okay if it

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goes wrong. But then you just
take it in a whole different

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direction. It usually winds up
with sex with animals or

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something like that. And of
course, he's never actually

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going to make it on the air, but
you kind of complete the thing

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anyway. So it's a lot of that.
Oh, and you'll be amazed that

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we're downtown Julie Brown does.

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Yeah, he made besides shoe.
Yeah, if you run this thing she

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wants

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to me she'll laugh. Okay, what
are we gonna get cease and

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desist? What is

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she? What is she doing now?

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I have no idea.

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She had the best name. Downtown.
Julie

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Brown. Yeah, goodness. Yeah.
Yeah. She has what she never had

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was talent.

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Well, that's pretty much par for
the course or that places I've

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noticed.

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But most of the people like
Martha and Mark Goodman, and I

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think Alan is well, they're
they're all on the 80s channel

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on Sirius Satellite till they
got some kind of work. Who are

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now merging?

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Yeah, good luck. Yeah.

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They've merged. They're merging
all the technology now too.

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And I think the business model
still says lacking in this fact,

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I was talking who was I talking
to you the other day?

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Well, the business model is not
only lacking, but the problem is

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their distribution is getting
radios into cars. And right now

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the car industry is not selling
cars.

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But no, I'm talking to I went
out to lunch with a venture

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capitalist on Thursday, and
found a new interesting place,

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by the way for business lunches.
Oh, good. Anyway, he was talking

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to me about you know, he's got a
Bentley. And he and it's got one

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of the guests has got one of
those plugs for an iPod. And he

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says the Bentley, you know, used
to have a subscription to both

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those services. You know,
because these guys, he says you

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just cancelled on both. He says
he just listens to podcasts.

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Really? Yeah, he says, and he
says a lot of his other friends

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are just, you know, they
basically wants to get into the

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podcast groove. And they don't
want to listen to podcasts,

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podcasts, because there's no
commercial interruptions.

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They're easier to listen to, you
can listen, you just, you know,

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start and stop. Which is a big
deal. Because you're listening

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to something interesting on XM,
you know, there's no there's no

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TiVo capability in the nothing's
yet.

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Actually there is. Sirius has I
forget what they call it, they

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do have one that will actually
record the broadcast and you can

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like a TiVo functionality, but
it's still it's recording it has

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to do it. You know, whenever
that whenever the show was being

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broadcast and versatility as
happy in the tunnel, stuff like

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that.

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I think once we once time
switching became obviously a big

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deal. I was sceptical at first.
But why would I because I've

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been using VH s machine since it
first came out to do the same

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thing. Right, right. And so once
people decided that they didn't

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want their content handed to
them on a schedule that they had

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to, to obey to adhere to. They
it I think the world changed.

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And I think that's what opened
the door for these kinds of

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things we do with this
podcasting.

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I agree. Gee, I wonder who
started that? That must have

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been a pretty smart guy,

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Dave Weiner. Yeah, exactly.

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A little present for you here,
John. No, no. People basically

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bought it for Stern. Now.
Everyone listened to stern.

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Maybe they listen to some of the
ESPN stuff, maybe be the BBC

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America. But I think that's
pretty much it.

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Right. Well, I still, you know,
I still think that podcasting,

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which is, which is interesting
to me, that you invented so far

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ahead of the curve. Because it's
always interesting people that

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get so far ahead of the curve
that that, but by the time that

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thing really becomes a big deal,
they're probably dead. But not

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quite. No, I know. But I'm
saying in 20 years, I think

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everything's gonna be
distributed this way. And I

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think there's gonna be more
independent productions. And I

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think more, it's going to be a
little more competitive. I mean,

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sure. I'm sure everyone still
downloads the PBS stuff. And,

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you know, now that everyone's
gotten into the act.

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Well, I do think there will be
one one, maybe minor difference

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that, you know, if we actually
could have complete ubiquitous

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bandwidth everywhere at
reasonable throughput rates,

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then there might not be that
much reason to have to download

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stuff before you can listen to
it. It may actually be able to

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be streamed and started and
stopped live but you know, it

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requires a huge infrastructure.
Sure, which we clearly don't

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have. So right now,

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but I think what's overlooked?
Because, uh, you're not the only

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guy who said this, but I think
what's overlooked in this in

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this analysis is that that's
actually a throwback, we don't

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need to do I mean, I think it'd
be great if we could stream

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stuff. And I think it's still
important for, like sporting

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events and things where you
really don't want to listen to

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that, but I'm just talking about
saving more time. Because, yeah,

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there's lots of people using
iTunes for podcasts, but I don't

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really know how well it works.
If it's really downloading in

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the background. You know, I
think that probably when someone

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wants to load up, they say,
Okay, give me all my stuff. And

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the speeds are now fast enough
that it kind of comes in and you

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can do it. It's a, you know,
maybe a 20 minute ordeal if

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you've got a couple of shows you
want to download, but it's not

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really fully automatic. So all
I'm saying is just to make it

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easier that you that admit, so
it's not about the live stream,

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it will be on demand streaming
is what I mean, it's not like

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live in, in real time live. But
you can just access it on

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demand. I think that will happen
more and more, just because it

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saves the audience more time at
the end of the day.

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Yeah, no, I think it'd be better
if you just had a big menu.

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Yeah, here's, here's, here's
ideally, what I'd like to see.

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Here we go, you have a your
player, or you maybe not even

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your player, but you'd have a
connection to a player that's

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built into the car, who knows
what that's through Wi Fi, you

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have a menu that comes up on
your screen, and you just click

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on the 10 podcasts you want and
then or subscribe to them. So

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they update automatically to
some wireless system. And then

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you're done. Or you go to a
website and some guy has a

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podcast, you just click on that
into some mechanism, it just

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automatically throws it onto
your playlist. It goes right

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onto your into your car,
wherever you listen to the

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stuff. And then just basically
one click stuff.

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So I almost have it set up that
way because what I've done is on

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me veoh.com Which by the way, I
think the homepage is starting

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to get starting to like be
something now. But on me

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veoh.com I'll make a channel of
favourite shows. So I have let's

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see what I have in there. The
New York Times front page, I've

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got fresh air, I've got the BBC
News pod. I've got Pacific Coast

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Holloway, I've got tech five.
And then it's all in one

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channel. So it's one feed. And I
subscribe to that in my Nokia

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podcast application. And all I
and says literally one click

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it'll bring in the whole list of
new episodes in the shows that I

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like. And then I can just say,
okay, download this one. This

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one, this one, this one or all
of them if I want to. And that's

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it. And then I'm in the and then
I'm good to go. But that's

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that's getting pretty close to
perfect. I would say yeah, I

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need something like that. I
mean, I'm still you have a 71

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you can do the same thing. Yeah,
I

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don't listen to the stuff to the
show. I'm gonna have to start

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using the 70 ones multimedia
capability a little more like

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I mentioned headset, that's
what's really working for me. I

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got did I show you that headset,
the Motorola Bluetooth behind

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the It's looks like it's made of
solid plastic and it goes behind

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the behind the neck. I'll show
it to you. It's awesome. Let me

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see. Do I have another model
number on this? Doesn't say

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you're looking it up.

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You're googling. Googling. It's

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yeah, I picked this up at the
San Francisco Airport last time

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I was leaving and it's it's
awesome. So you got you know

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beautiful stereo you can start
and stop from the headset no

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wires, which is really what I
what I hated and I couldn't even

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put have this thing on when
there's when the plane is taking

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off when you're supposed to have
everything off. If they catch

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you with earphones in. Then they
almost rip them out of your

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head. Right so this just goes
right underneath the hairline.

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You don't see it and I'm sitting
there chillin, listen to shows.

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And if a call comes in, then
interrupts that is great.

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Now you had to send me a link.
The I will now well. But anyway,

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yeah, I I still burn CDs.

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Well, a lot of people do
actually. In fact, you know?

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Well, I'll

442
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:14,820
tell you what the problem is
with burning CDs because I have

443
00:24:14,820 --> 00:24:18,540
a bunch of them. You know, when
they go into the, the San

444
00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:22,650
Francisco office, I have I one
of the things I do is I I've

445
00:24:22,650 --> 00:24:27,210
downloaded a lot of the ad tech,
the ad tech which is one of the

446
00:24:27,210 --> 00:24:29,370
big conferences for people out
there who do a lot of blogging

447
00:24:29,370 --> 00:24:31,110
and stuff they want to kind of
understand this business a

448
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:34,440
little better. You can go to
these ad tech, the ad tech site

449
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,620
and they have all their speeches
for all their conferences

450
00:24:37,890 --> 00:24:41,880
available as podcasts all as
quote. Yeah, that's good. And we

451
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,590
were talking like dozens and
dozens do they

452
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:45,540
have a demo? They have an RSS
feed of it?

453
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,500
Well, the problem is are so many
of these things you want to do

454
00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:51,630
you want to pick and choose. And
so

455
00:24:51,630 --> 00:24:54,420
here's something that would be
great if if you could go to me

456
00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:57,150
VO and then you could create a
channel of the ones you think

457
00:24:57,150 --> 00:25:00,810
are good and then publish that
out. Because I'd listened to

458
00:25:00,810 --> 00:25:03,270
that I've listened to your feed
if you if you were putting stuff

459
00:25:03,270 --> 00:25:03,720
in there.

460
00:25:04,890 --> 00:25:08,640
So anyway, so the problem is, is
that there, you can only get one

461
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,030
or you know, because of the
problem with CDs is that they

462
00:25:12,030 --> 00:25:16,830
only hold 70 minutes. You know,
with with you when you have an

463
00:25:16,860 --> 00:25:20,160
iPod, you can load that baby up
with hours and hours and hours

464
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,160
and hours of material. Where
even with the 71 How much is

465
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,200
that whole? Like, whatever that
memory card? Yeah, it's

466
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,890
like two, two gig memory cards.
So you can store tonnes of stuff

467
00:25:28,890 --> 00:25:29,250
on it.

468
00:25:29,610 --> 00:25:32,640
Yeah, so it's a big difference.
So he ended up burning a lot of

469
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,170
cheap CDs and throwing them out

470
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,900
here, but I find that that's
good for the car. Because I've

471
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:40,440
tried the Bluetooth to the car
radio. That sucks that I've

472
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,830
never gotten that to work
reliably. So yeah, I'll burn

473
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:48,480
stuff to a CD for in the car. In
fact, I made a big stink about

474
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,150
this, and the download links are
coming back ladies and

475
00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:54,960
gentlemen. On the media,

476
00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:56,730
oh, you will know,

477
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,640
of course is stupid. I mean,
that's like, you can't force

478
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,360
people to listen to shows on the
computer, you know, or forced to

479
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,910
force them. You know, it's like,
why make it difficult? Just give

480
00:26:05,910 --> 00:26:08,610
me their damn download link.
This is what I'm saying to AOL.

481
00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:11,220
You can hear me saying it out.
Don't make us with fucking

482
00:26:11,220 --> 00:26:11,910
difficult.

483
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:15,480
Well, the problem is, is that,
you know, the until they, I

484
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,290
mean, yeah, there's a difficulty
monetizing these kinds of

485
00:26:19,290 --> 00:26:22,740
things. But the fact of the
matter is, there's ways a and b

486
00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:25,980
people want to download them.
You got to get the phone now. No

487
00:26:25,980 --> 00:26:28,950
problem. Well, give me a story
first.

488
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:39,510
Now I gotta cover. Let me see. I
got a good story. I'm so happy.

489
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,380
You there. Yeah, I'm back. I
want to continue this. You want

490
00:26:43,380 --> 00:26:45,480
to talk about something else?
Well, what? No, I

491
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,510
think we're boring people stiff.
Alright. So I picked up.

492
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,070
As I always do for my girls, I
pick up like People Magazine,

493
00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:57,540
I'll pick up Us Weekly, or
whatever it is. And pick up the

494
00:26:57,540 --> 00:27:03,300
National Enquirer and globe. And
I'm so happy with our new

495
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:07,770
president because now politics
are really in the in the

496
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:12,660
supermarket tabloids and had to
pick this up. Obama's wife

497
00:27:12,690 --> 00:27:17,550
attacks Oprah. Back off, there's
only room for one first lady in

498
00:27:17,550 --> 00:27:22,020
the White House. And it's great
because in essence, I'm sure

499
00:27:22,020 --> 00:27:24,630
that a lot of this is taking
place. So you know the story, of

500
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:26,490
course, which is hyped to no
end?

501
00:27:26,550 --> 00:27:28,950
Well, well, wait a minute before
you go on. Where did you where

502
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:31,110
was it? Where it just one run?
Because I think a lot of people

503
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:34,260
don't know any better than
National Enquirer is quite

504
00:27:34,260 --> 00:27:34,920
accurate.

505
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:37,860
Yes. But this is the globe, the
Enquirer has its own story. But

506
00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:39,960
this isn't exclusive to the
globe, which I'll put in the

507
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,070
same league, although Enquirer
maybe better. And it's really

508
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:47,100
saying that, you know, Oprah,
who of course, did do a

509
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:50,670
tremendous amount for the Obama
campaign. She had a big

510
00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:55,110
fundraiser at her house, you
know, like $1,000 ahead dinner,

511
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,840
declared him the Messiah that,
you

512
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,250
know, talked about him as if she
is one of, if not the maker

513
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:06,390
cheat. Well, she's she's huge on
television. She is massive. And

514
00:28:06,390 --> 00:28:09,510
so now, you know, of course. So
this is how it works, right? The

515
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:13,650
campaign ends, the twittering
stops, you know, the emails are

516
00:28:13,710 --> 00:28:15,930
dropped off the face of the
earth because it's done right.

517
00:28:15,930 --> 00:28:18,210
We got nothing left to say to
anyone who did anything. That's

518
00:28:18,210 --> 00:28:21,450
the way it goes. But of course,
Oprah, you know, who's been

519
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,500
who's been dedicating a lot of
her personal time, but also a

520
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:29,730
professional, taking risk risk,
even you know, what she would

521
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,710
remember in the beginning,
people said, Oh, she's gonna

522
00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:34,320
lose her audience. People hate
her. And so there were some

523
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,550
significant risk involved. So
you're not Oprah. And it's not

524
00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:41,070
like all of a sudden, okay,
thanks. I'm president. No, she's

525
00:28:41,070 --> 00:28:44,670
calling up and she's going like,
alright, so I'll be hosting the

526
00:28:44,670 --> 00:28:47,970
inaugural ball. This is the
dress that I'll be wearing. You

527
00:28:47,970 --> 00:28:51,450
know. And oh, by the way, you
know, I've got an agenda. Here's

528
00:28:51,450 --> 00:28:53,850
some things you have to do.
Because, you know,

529
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,170
I'm Oprah. Yeah, yeah. You know,
this was all expected.

530
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,570
Of course, it was, well, people
don't think about it. And that's

531
00:29:00,570 --> 00:29:02,970
why I'm so happy that this is
showing up in the supermarket

532
00:29:02,970 --> 00:29:05,250
tabloids because that, you know,
now I have a reason to read

533
00:29:05,250 --> 00:29:08,820
these things again. And Michelle
Obama is apparently really

534
00:29:08,820 --> 00:29:11,370
pissed off. You know, she's
like, you know, back off sister.

535
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:20,340
Yeah. Michelle Obama, Obama is
indeed where we'll be in

536
00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:24,990
January, the First Lady and, and
Oprah is not the first lady.

537
00:29:24,990 --> 00:29:29,490
Although Oprah was kind of a de
facto First Lady of the black

538
00:29:29,490 --> 00:29:32,940
community. And now she's gonna,
you know, she must this is gonna

539
00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:34,890
be interesting, because you're
right, this could turn into a

540
00:29:34,890 --> 00:29:37,020
little, a little hissy fit here.

541
00:29:37,050 --> 00:29:40,740
Well, even crazier than that. So
I was talking to Patricia about

542
00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:43,590
this and who and she approached
this from a very different

543
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:46,650
angle. She sees it as celebrity
gossip. You know, she's not even

544
00:29:46,650 --> 00:29:49,680
that into the whole presidential
thing the way I am certainly.

545
00:29:50,370 --> 00:29:53,220
And so I mentioned this to her
and she says, Oh, yeah, no, I

546
00:29:53,220 --> 00:29:55,380
haven't seen Oprah man. She's
like, because you know, she's

547
00:29:55,380 --> 00:29:59,250
not. She's not married to
Stedman. You know, her sexuality

548
00:29:59,250 --> 00:30:02,340
has always been in question, and
you know what she's really like

549
00:30:02,340 --> 00:30:10,260
the most eligible bachelorette
in America would say, even

550
00:30:10,260 --> 00:30:12,840
though she has this guy, you
know, maybe just maybe just her

551
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,420
moustache or whatever it is, or
beard, whatever you call, it

552
00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:19,260
doesn't matter. But Patricia was
saying that, you know,

553
00:30:19,290 --> 00:30:23,010
everywhere Oprah was like,
hanging on, on Barack, and you

554
00:30:23,010 --> 00:30:25,980
know, she she, as well was,
Patricia put it a little more

555
00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:29,280
crudely, but she says like, he's
just gliding over him

556
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,390
continuously. And I bet she
would have logged in. That's

557
00:30:33,390 --> 00:30:36,000
what she said, you know, Oprah,
is it? There's no way she said

558
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,830
it in Dutch. So it doesn't
really translate. But she said

559
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:43,110
no, but Oprah is just moist. Oh,
for Barak, that was the, I get

560
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:45,750
it. And and I thought about I
said, Yeah, you know, I could

561
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:49,410
totally understand where Oprah
would think shit. You know, this

562
00:30:49,410 --> 00:30:52,830
is the guy for me. I like him.
Now. She can't do anything about

563
00:30:52,830 --> 00:30:57,210
it. Now, I think that's way too
late. But, but you bet you bet

564
00:30:57,210 --> 00:31:01,350
that she has a lot she has an
agenda. And she's gonna call

565
00:31:01,650 --> 00:31:05,670
Barack on it. The president?

566
00:31:05,940 --> 00:31:07,950
Yeah, no, it's gonna be
interesting to see why he does

567
00:31:07,950 --> 00:31:09,960
it. But he did promise. You
know, a lot of people believe

568
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,720
that the entire year the black
community, which has never been

569
00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:18,120
had this much access to power is
going to be all over him, you

570
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,130
know, pushing him in one
direction or another he's gonna

571
00:31:20,130 --> 00:31:24,450
have to do he's gonna have to
essentially pull a Nixon and and

572
00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:27,360
pretty much isolate himself. So
you just, you just you just

573
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,350
can't get a hold of him.

574
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,010
Oh, he's got he's got enough
people. He's considering for his

575
00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:33,870
administration that have worked
with Nixon.

576
00:31:34,890 --> 00:31:38,970
Well, and Clinton, and he's got
that mean spirited Chief of

577
00:31:38,970 --> 00:31:39,360
Staff,

578
00:31:39,390 --> 00:31:41,820
Rahm and Ron. And well, you
know, I looked up a couple of

579
00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:45,660
things on some of these people.
I didn't have a lot of time. I

580
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:48,120
don't we talked about last week,
but Rama Manuel was on the board

581
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,930
of directors had Freddie Mac in
2002, when they when there was

582
00:31:51,930 --> 00:31:56,610
no huge money was being
laundered and lost. And all

583
00:31:56,610 --> 00:31:58,710
these people that are that are
around him in the

584
00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:01,950
administration. It just kind of
scary. They've got we I mean,

585
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:04,200
you probably get a weird
background if you're in politics

586
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,300
long enough anyway. But

587
00:32:08,190 --> 00:32:10,680
so the word here is that Hillary
Clinton is going to become

588
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,090
Secretary of State. Yeah,

589
00:32:12,090 --> 00:32:14,520
I followed that whole thing
Friday to kind of like, well,

590
00:32:14,550 --> 00:32:18,300
you know, she doesn't want to
say and insiders are saying and

591
00:32:18,540 --> 00:32:21,090
but then I heard Hillary give a
speech where she said, I'm going

592
00:32:21,090 --> 00:32:24,420
to respect the president the the
president elects process. So it

593
00:32:24,420 --> 00:32:28,200
sounds like she indeed couldn't
be upfront, you know, when

594
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,970
they during the election, when
the two of them were still

595
00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:32,670
battling each other. And she had
to give in and not, you know,

596
00:32:32,670 --> 00:32:36,060
make a big fuss at the end. They
had that secret meeting that

597
00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:39,120
just the two of them and they
came out she was smiling, and

598
00:32:39,330 --> 00:32:41,970
everybody thought there was some
sort of a quid pro quo deal that

599
00:32:41,970 --> 00:32:45,690
was done to get her out of that
out of the race. And many people

600
00:32:45,690 --> 00:32:49,710
assumed it was gonna be the vice
president. Yeah, this may have

601
00:32:49,710 --> 00:32:50,520
been the deal.

602
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,050
Well, it's the right gig for her
I'll say that she is definitely

603
00:32:55,050 --> 00:32:58,110
the right person. Although of
course she works for the evil

604
00:32:58,140 --> 00:33:01,380
Uber overlords you know, you
know my opinion on that but just

605
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:04,680
from what she knows and who she
knows and the the world she's

606
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,660
travelled around, and I think
she would be pretty good.

607
00:33:07,710 --> 00:33:10,350
Maybe she's another Neo liberal
Well, of

608
00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:13,770
course she is. I mean, it's all
show anyway, I just want pretty

609
00:33:13,770 --> 00:33:16,950
pictures to look at by the way,
Sarah Palin now with their hair

610
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:19,140
down at that Republican get
together.

611
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,960
Turns out, so it turns out you
watch Bill Maher last Friday, or

612
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,110
not this company this last week?
I didn't see the one. I never

613
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:33,180
watched it. Yeah. But you
shouldn't as

614
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,320
we already went through this, I
can't get it over here. Oh,

615
00:33:37,530 --> 00:33:40,320
well, you know, once we get our
sling boxes, yeah, we get the

616
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,130
sling boxes. Yeah.

617
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,740
And there's a thing called sling
catcher that puts it on the TV,

618
00:33:43,740 --> 00:33:47,130
I'm gonna get some units and
I'll figure out how to do it.

619
00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:54,570
Anyway. So Bill Maher was one of
the guys ranting and raving

620
00:33:54,570 --> 00:33:58,080
about what an idiot Sarah Palin
was because she thought Africa

621
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,860
was a country and it turns out
it wasn't true. Yes, she denied

622
00:34:01,860 --> 00:34:04,620
it. Nobody paid any attention to
her denials but they decided to

623
00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:09,660
go with it and it was a blogger
who was a hoax guy and he was a

624
00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:13,830
big hoax in the Los Angeles
Times you know, the media or

625
00:34:13,830 --> 00:34:18,180
MSNBC they all jumped on this
poor woman for this something

626
00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:20,970
that didn't even happen it was
just I thought it was sick

627
00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:21,450
clickable

628
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,090
Yeah, it's well it's that's the
media that's why it's better now

629
00:34:24,090 --> 00:34:27,390
to buy a better the story in the
globe is true. It's more true

630
00:34:27,390 --> 00:34:28,200
than that shit.

631
00:34:29,490 --> 00:34:32,190
Yeah, I'm sure I know. It's
pathetic that we have to read

632
00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:33,810
tabloids to get news. Well,

633
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,010
I was gonna say reminds me of
men and black, and I think was

634
00:34:38,010 --> 00:34:42,330
the First Men in Black where
Tommy Lee Jones is showing Will

635
00:34:42,780 --> 00:34:46,050
Will Smith the ropes. And then
he walks by a newsstand and he

636
00:34:46,050 --> 00:34:48,300
stops and he picks up the
National Enquirer and then

637
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:50,280
there's Wilson necessity and
what's that for? So this is

638
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,630
research. For all the stories
there it's all true everything

639
00:34:54,630 --> 00:34:56,700
in here is the real world.

640
00:34:59,070 --> 00:35:01,680
Well, they you know, the One
thing that's come out over the

641
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,060
you know, the National Enquirer
doesn't get any respect, because

642
00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:08,400
they buy a lot of their their
stories, they'll actually pay

643
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,000
sources to spill their beat
spilled the grass, right? And

644
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,860
this is considered bad practice.

645
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:20,730
Yeah, I'm reading the best
democracy money come by Greg

646
00:35:20,730 --> 00:35:22,590
Palast. Have you ever heard of
him?

647
00:35:23,370 --> 00:35:25,230
No, I haven't heard of him. But
I heard of that book.

648
00:35:25,590 --> 00:35:30,660
excellent book, excellent book.
And it's really, he's a

649
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:33,870
journalist, he's uncovered a lot
of amazing, amazing things that

650
00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:36,660
have gotten no attention in
mainstream media. So it's

651
00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:40,170
partially about the truce that
he's uncovered, which goes back

652
00:35:40,170 --> 00:35:46,350
to the 2004 elections, with
voters predominantly black, but

653
00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:50,880
almost all Democrat being
scrubbed off of the eligibility

654
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,750
or voter list and Florida. But
really, it's about how he has

655
00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:58,440
tried to get the stories into
mainstream news in America and

656
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,160
has failed. And what I'm already
reading now is he's saying this,

657
00:36:02,190 --> 00:36:05,370
no one's doing any research,
it's a lot safer, just to, you

658
00:36:05,370 --> 00:36:08,130
know, to buy your story, because
that's what, that's what they

659
00:36:08,130 --> 00:36:11,010
all do, John, they don't, they
don't know they buy a package

660
00:36:11,010 --> 00:36:14,970
story. They don't buy the news
or the information from from the

661
00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:18,360
person directly, but they'll
just buy a package of news. You

662
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,760
know, they'll take a press
release, turn it into a news

663
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,900
story. And there's no reporting
is too expensive. No one wants

664
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:27,330
to spend the money on reporting.
In fact, the line that I like to

665
00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:29,610
hear you like, yeah, the
newspapers or at some point,

666
00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:32,310
make something like 20% margin
when they were in their heyday.

667
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,710
And so they keep cutting back on
the quality and then people

668
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:37,860
stopped looking at the papers
because the quality sucks. And

669
00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:40,230
then they did they cheapen it
more thinking people are gonna

670
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:43,260
want that when I was, you know,
I made this argument a million

671
00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:46,110
times. It's like, Why do you
make your product worse, if you

672
00:36:46,110 --> 00:36:48,840
want more people to buy it, I
mean, that this never made any

673
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,250
sense to me. And then meanwhile,
it's so bad. And this is a data.

674
00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:58,110
There's a point of irony here. I
was on a call recently for the

675
00:36:58,110 --> 00:37:01,890
Bulldog reporter with a bunch of
other writers talking to public

676
00:37:01,890 --> 00:37:04,770
relations, people about how they
should do their job. This is

677
00:37:04,770 --> 00:37:10,830
common. And Kara Swisher was on
the Wall Street Journal. And

678
00:37:10,830 --> 00:37:13,830
she's talking about her website,
she did get all things digital,

679
00:37:13,830 --> 00:37:16,980
whatever it is, they're just
kind of a blog that's separate

680
00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:20,310
from the journal itself.
Although it's edited, I believe,

681
00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:25,320
anyway, she said that the most
popular feature on there is

682
00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:31,050
press releases run full cloth.
She says it's just really

683
00:37:31,050 --> 00:37:33,540
shocked her but you run a press
release full cloth, and it gets

684
00:37:33,540 --> 00:37:36,480
more page news. And most of the
stuff that she does, she says

685
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,240
she just kind of mentioned this
in passing. And I'm thinking,

686
00:37:39,810 --> 00:37:41,550
think about what you just said

687
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,510
and that crazy.

688
00:37:45,090 --> 00:37:48,060
I mean, the press is just you
know, okay, well anyway, so

689
00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:53,940
that. So the whole newspaper
thing is just completely now

690
00:37:53,940 --> 00:37:57,510
somebody made or mentioned the
possibility that they are going

691
00:37:57,510 --> 00:38:02,130
to be next in line to beg for a
bailout. Well, just guys don't

692
00:38:02,130 --> 00:38:03,660
need any more money just before
we

693
00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:05,850
get into that. So somewhere in
the beginning of this book is

694
00:38:05,850 --> 00:38:08,970
the line that this is so rare,
that jerk that journalists

695
00:38:08,970 --> 00:38:11,280
actually do any real
investigative reporting that

696
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,980
that's why they had to make a
whole movie about called All the

697
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:17,640
President's Men because who are
the guys wardrobe, wardrobe,

698
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:19,890
Bernstein and Woodward,

699
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,130
Bernstein and Woodward. It was
so rare that they had actually

700
00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:25,920
done all that investigating
reporting, investigative

701
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,170
reporting to uncover the
Watergate scandal, they had to

702
00:38:28,170 --> 00:38:30,270
make a movie about it. And the
point

703
00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:33,420
is well made. I never thought
about that. But you're right.

704
00:38:33,450 --> 00:38:36,180
Yeah. I mean, so what's so
special guys actually did their

705
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:38,220
job. It was so unusual

706
00:38:38,340 --> 00:38:41,400
that has ever happened. And this
is in the 70s By the way, so

707
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,070
unusual that anybody would do
something like this that it made

708
00:38:44,070 --> 00:38:46,200
it made a movie of a movie, you
might like

709
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,620
this book, jaw. It's an updated
version, the best democracy

710
00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:51,870
money combined. Isn't that
funny? Expanded election

711
00:38:51,870 --> 00:38:55,860
edition. Wow. Okay, this is a
Paul Parkinson gave this to me.

712
00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:03,600
All right, I have I've known
many person, many an arrogant PR

713
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,910
person who have sensually said,
you know, we make all the news.

714
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:13,200
We people just do what we tell
them to and that's the way it

715
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:13,500
is.

716
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,340
Well, the sad thing is that the
audience doesn't give a shit.

717
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:18,840
Wow, whatever.

718
00:39:19,770 --> 00:39:21,840
Alright, so let's give it a shot
because you're not really given

719
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,200
much of an option. Now, but I
don't I don't get used to it.

720
00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:28,320
Yeah, there used to just
believing whatever it's like.

721
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:31,680
Remember that I love Jersey
thing. I think I was telling you

722
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,970
about it the other day about
they found all those bones

723
00:39:35,970 --> 00:39:40,170
children's bones. And there's
been you know, right, right. 30

724
00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:43,950
eyewitnesses and testimony for
years and, you know, so they

725
00:39:43,950 --> 00:39:47,970
finally uncovered you know,
Bones of like 12 children and so

726
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,940
you know, now that oops, they
replaced the deputy or the the

727
00:39:50,940 --> 00:39:53,640
chief of police oops, someone
else went in retirement. Oops,

728
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,540
the judge changed. And now the
news came out. Oh, no, it wasn't

729
00:39:57,540 --> 00:40:00,480
there was no children bones at
all. It's all animals. Oh, there

730
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,080
was no torture whatsoever. And
everyone and people are emailing

731
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,370
me, you really need to make a
correction. You were wrong. I'm

732
00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:10,410
like, What are you talking?
You're gonna believe this piece

733
00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:15,840
of shit over anything else but
me 30 People test testifying

734
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,430
that this was going on Yeah,
man,

735
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,240
we get, you know, you see that
when you do this is a great

736
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:24,420
thing about actually modern
media and blogging and and

737
00:40:24,420 --> 00:40:27,360
modern magazines that use
comments. Because you hit you

738
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,740
can roll out like the most
scurrilous piece of information

739
00:40:31,740 --> 00:40:35,880
that you know is true. I mean,
global warming falls into this

740
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,000
category that Michael chrome by
the way. So Michael Creighton

741
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,940
came out at you know, and he's,
I saw his last interview with

742
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:44,820
Charlie Rose, I have a copy, I
should give it like, his

743
00:40:44,820 --> 00:40:47,640
interviews. And he says he knew
he was gonna get slammed for

744
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,500
this. But he says he thinks as
far as he concerned, it's a

745
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:53,730
crock of crap. But you know, you
could have evidence that it's a

746
00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:56,340
crock of crap, but because
people have subscribed, they

747
00:40:56,340 --> 00:40:59,160
have subscribed their
personality. In other words,

748
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,920
it's almost like you know, I've
always felt this way with, you

749
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,010
know, this Mac versus PC thing
that happened where it began in

750
00:41:05,010 --> 00:41:09,630
1984. And just really never
ended. And you criticise a

751
00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:14,040
Macintosh. And the person who
has subscribed to the Macintosh

752
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,400
by buying one and thinking is
really good. They think you're

753
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,050
criticising them? Yep. They've
internalised people have

754
00:41:22,050 --> 00:41:25,620
internalised outside
information. And and and this is

755
00:41:25,620 --> 00:41:28,860
a form of materialism that is
very destructive to one's

756
00:41:28,860 --> 00:41:32,640
personality. And this type of
materialism can take the form of

757
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,820
being materialistic about
information. So you are totally

758
00:41:35,850 --> 00:41:39,840
you've bought in to something to
such an extreme that if anybody

759
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:43,410
says it might, you might be that
the information might be

760
00:41:43,410 --> 00:41:47,010
invalid. You defend the
information, even if it isn't

761
00:41:47,010 --> 00:41:50,640
valid, because you are 100% in
this is not healthy.

762
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:54,420
But this is rampant, John and
particularly in high tech,

763
00:41:54,810 --> 00:41:59,010
particularly Silicon Valley
stuff. And

764
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,920
it's programmed to do with an
engineer. Yeah,

765
00:42:01,980 --> 00:42:05,280
it's it's social engineering.
But look at those ads. I mean,

766
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,510
basically, Hi, I'm a cool guy,
you know, I'm getting laid, and

767
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:12,750
I use a Mac. That's the whole
message. And the other guy

768
00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:19,230
clearly is not getting laid. By
the way, by the way, the so I'm

769
00:42:19,230 --> 00:42:23,100
in New York, and I asked Ron and
Jeff this you know, Ron, Ron's a

770
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:26,550
pretty smart marketing guy.
Jeff's been with market at

771
00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:30,750
Electronic Arts, all of North
America for eight years, you

772
00:42:30,750 --> 00:42:34,320
know, billions of dollars worth
of video games. And I said you

773
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,000
see that bus going by says
Windows life without walls. Can

774
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,700
you explain that positioning
statement to me? And neither of

775
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:47,340
them could? Do you know what
that means? I have a theory.

776
00:42:48,690 --> 00:42:51,540
Well, let me think about it.
This this you mentioned it this

777
00:42:51,540 --> 00:42:55,320
is so weak. I remember seeing it
myself life without walls

778
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,620
windows. Yeah. So the Windows
was just sitting there without a

779
00:42:58,620 --> 00:43:01,170
wall in the hole now, I guess
so. No. Okay, but I'm just

780
00:43:01,170 --> 00:43:03,330
trying to think of some some
crazy things. I

781
00:43:03,330 --> 00:43:07,860
got it. I got it, man. It's an
it's a total West Coast Silicon

782
00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:13,560
Valley thing. Get it? Walled
Garden, the Mac being a walled

783
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,040
garden.

784
00:43:14,430 --> 00:43:17,130
Oh my god, you're right.

785
00:43:17,250 --> 00:43:19,080
How lame is that? Huh?

786
00:43:20,190 --> 00:43:25,200
How lame is the right that's
exactly it. And so I'm looking

787
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:25,620
on.

788
00:43:25,650 --> 00:43:27,930
Yeah. And I'm looking at him
like, you know, this is not the

789
00:43:27,930 --> 00:43:30,420
best positioning statement in
the world. And you know, and

790
00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:33,420
neither Ron or Jeff they said
the same thing was like no walls

791
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:37,350
and it's transparent and but it
was not good. You know, like,

792
00:43:37,350 --> 00:43:40,470
well, how does that sound from
from Microsoft that said, yeah,

793
00:43:40,530 --> 00:43:45,390
that's like the way they package
their shit. But there's a pun in

794
00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:47,970
there and I think because of the
whole Mac PC thing, and now

795
00:43:47,970 --> 00:43:51,420
they've got the hi I'm a PC
which by the way, I think those

796
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:52,440
ads are pretty good.

797
00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:54,240
I think they stink. No, I

798
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,580
think they're well cast. I liked
them. I liked the light.

799
00:43:57,390 --> 00:44:01,560
Used to hear here. And here's
the here's here is the big $64

800
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,780
question about these ads. When
you're zooming by advertising

801
00:44:06,780 --> 00:44:09,450
using your TiVo or your DVR
whatever it is, and you go

802
00:44:09,450 --> 00:44:12,000
shooting by all these ads,
banking mainly Me, me, me. And

803
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,300
you see a Mac ad one of those
are the two guys, you will stop

804
00:44:15,330 --> 00:44:17,580
and watch it because you know
you're going to be entertained.

805
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:21,780
If you see one of those PC ads.
Are you going to stop your DVR

806
00:44:21,780 --> 00:44:23,370
so you can watch the ad?

807
00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:27,540
No, no, no. No, you're right.
But that's the difference

808
00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:32,820
between advertising and making a
better ad and doing something

809
00:44:32,820 --> 00:44:36,060
which I believe is the next in
which we are doing the next

810
00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:39,840
level of advertising is you turn
it into entertainment. Those ads

811
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,930
are entertaining. They're fun to
watch. So it's entertainment,

812
00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:46,260
ergo good and it and then of
course that's the kind of shit

813
00:44:46,590 --> 00:44:49,860
that when you consume it as
entertainment, you internalise

814
00:44:49,860 --> 00:44:53,280
it, and then you get all that
crazy, fanboy shit.

815
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,790
But it has messages in it that
are that are that are that work.

816
00:44:56,790 --> 00:45:02,340
I mean, I think they're just
they're fantastic. He hasn't

817
00:45:02,340 --> 00:45:05,280
sold me on anything but you
know, but the fact of the matter

818
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,470
is, is the machine I do
recommend people buy it. But if

819
00:45:07,470 --> 00:45:09,690
somebody says What should I get
Viola, let's just get a

820
00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:12,270
Macintosh. And you know, you
won't have to worry so much.

821
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:12,630
Yeah.

822
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:19,019
Hell yeah. And I saw it once
again on the road man.

823
00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:25,740
Because Ron, we're using Ron's
laptop as the presenting

824
00:45:25,740 --> 00:45:28,830
machine, so he always fully
loaded and has, you know, in

825
00:45:28,830 --> 00:45:32,100
case there's no, you go to these
agencies and you get like an

826
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:35,550
hour with one of the top media
buyers responsible for huge

827
00:45:35,550 --> 00:45:39,540
brands, I'm talking about
everything from Pepsi to Dr.

828
00:45:39,540 --> 00:45:45,450
Pepper to movie studios to ah,
you know, other consumer

829
00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:50,010
packaged goods like Gillette,
you know, on and on and on. And

830
00:45:50,010 --> 00:45:52,140
then you want to present to them
sometimes the Wi Fi is all

831
00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:55,200
fucked up, and you can't, you
know, you want you wind up

832
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,910
presenting upside down. In the
craziest ways, you know, half

833
00:45:59,910 --> 00:46:03,450
the half the meetings, I spend,
you know, my knees on the floor,

834
00:46:03,450 --> 00:46:05,970
I mean, it's real schmatta
selling stuff, because you had

835
00:46:05,970 --> 00:46:08,820
to go down find, you gotta find
a plug and all

836
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:14,910
the are the internet connection,
or the internet connection is

837
00:46:14,910 --> 00:46:15,990
usually dead.

838
00:46:16,349 --> 00:46:19,259
Exactly. And then, you know,
what's the guest password? And

839
00:46:19,469 --> 00:46:20,129
so we have a lot of

840
00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:22,200
stuff. No, nobody knows.

841
00:46:23,130 --> 00:46:25,710
So and this is, these are media
agencies who were supposed to be

842
00:46:25,710 --> 00:46:30,630
sophisticated in this stuff.
Anyway, so actually, we had a

843
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:33,660
lot of good luck, we were able
to get a lot of it working

844
00:46:33,690 --> 00:46:37,290
fairly smoothly, but, but it's a
PC. And so whenever you connect

845
00:46:37,290 --> 00:46:41,100
to either, we did have our own
projector, which we always carry

846
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:43,140
with us, in case someone has
absolutely nothing because

847
00:46:43,140 --> 00:46:45,450
there's nothing more pathetic
than hey, let's all look over my

848
00:46:45,450 --> 00:46:48,870
shoulder at the screen or trying
to navigate a presentation

849
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:55,440
upside down. Right. But every
every different projector we ran

850
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,700
into or every flat screen TV,
it's you spend 15 minutes

851
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:03,000
configuring the fucking options,
you know, the size, the

852
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:08,430
frequency scan rates, the the
resolution, and with a Mac, you

853
00:47:08,430 --> 00:47:12,300
plug it in, and it works. It
just works.

854
00:47:17,490 --> 00:47:19,890
Hello, yeah, yeah, yeah.

855
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,190
So did I internalise that it
sounded a bit.

856
00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:26,850
I think so you're sounding like
a little too, too happy about

857
00:47:26,850 --> 00:47:31,260
it? Yeah, no, I agree. The whole
thing is a disaster. And I use

858
00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:34,980
the Google phone standardisation
when I'm sorry, I use the Google

859
00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:38,880
phone a lot this trip. Oh, I
didn't know you had a Google

860
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,210
phone.

861
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:41,160
Yeah, I got one from the office.

862
00:47:42,420 --> 00:47:44,940
I was supposed to get a Google
phone. They never got me one.

863
00:47:44,970 --> 00:47:48,270
Well, no, I got you the e 71.
Listen, you don't want the

864
00:47:48,270 --> 00:47:50,310
Google phone unless you want to
test it out.

865
00:47:50,310 --> 00:47:52,800
Because the lottery? I want to
test it out.

866
00:47:52,830 --> 00:47:56,070
Okay, well, you can have mine.
I'm done with it. Because a dog?

867
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:59,610
No, you're saying No, what I'm
saying is the I think I told you

868
00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:04,110
if I told you this, the phone
itself is a dog. It's HTC makes

869
00:48:04,110 --> 00:48:06,660
it and the battery life, you
know, because of all the shit

870
00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:08,910
that's in there, whatever. It's
like three hours, that's not

871
00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:13,080
worth it. There's still a lot of
basic stuff missing real basic

872
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,590
stuff, like, you know, I'd like
to, you know, send a webpage via

873
00:48:16,590 --> 00:48:20,100
email to someone forget all
that. This is an operating

874
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:24,360
system that combined with the
Google services, here it is the

875
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:31,770
cloud is absolutely ad consumer
friendly enough level. And I

876
00:48:31,770 --> 00:48:36,750
could see this operating system.
Unlike Symbian. I could see this

877
00:48:36,750 --> 00:48:40,830
going on the netbooks. I could
see this being a very

878
00:48:40,830 --> 00:48:43,230
lightweight operating system
that works with all the Google

879
00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:46,980
services giving you enough to
have a real experience in life

880
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:51,990
free as an as an operating
system. I'm really quite

881
00:48:54,180 --> 00:48:56,160
surprised by it. I'm surprised
by it.

882
00:48:56,610 --> 00:49:00,420
So you think Google do you think
this may be a Trojan horse? Not

883
00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:03,600
in the sense of a virus but in
the sense of like here, here we

884
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,960
come. Or we're gonna do this
phone we look look, it's just a

885
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,120
phone. We're just doing a phone.
No, no, no, no, we're just doing

886
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,330
a phone. But in fact, they're
working on blowing out a real

887
00:49:12,330 --> 00:49:15,390
operating systems is going to be
unreal computers, running all

888
00:49:15,390 --> 00:49:17,400
these cloud apps before you know
it.

889
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:19,290
Yeah, well, I know that they're
already going to do it on a

890
00:49:19,290 --> 00:49:23,070
sprint farm. So they're just
there. They're just going to be

891
00:49:23,070 --> 00:49:26,010
setting you know, pimping the
the OS out everywhere they can.

892
00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:28,350
And I don't see why they
wouldn't put it on bigger

893
00:49:28,350 --> 00:49:30,480
devices. It just makes perfect
sense to me.

894
00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:33,930
So then Microsoft was right, in
their paranoia,

895
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,950
I think? I think so. And it
could do it, John. It really

896
00:49:37,950 --> 00:49:40,920
could. It already has the
touchscreen hooks built into it.

897
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,760
So that's kind of cool. Which by
the way, the hotel we were at

898
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,010
had had those big Microsoft
coffee tables. It's kind of nice

899
00:49:50,010 --> 00:49:54,270
because it would tell was this,
the Sheraton towers but pretty

900
00:49:54,270 --> 00:49:57,180
shitty hotel, but right in the
middle where we needed to be for

901
00:49:57,180 --> 00:50:01,020
this trip. So we have these
coffee tables. which are about

902
00:50:01,020 --> 00:50:05,640
like, you know, four feet by two
and a half feet. And it looks

903
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,360
like you're looking from a top
view of the beach, there's a

904
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,410
little starfish there and some
shells and sand. And when you

905
00:50:13,410 --> 00:50:15,720
put something down on the table,
because you don't, I didn't

906
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:18,330
recognise it at first, but you
put something down and the water

907
00:50:18,330 --> 00:50:22,200
starts to ripple. And then you
notice, yeah, and the four

908
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,230
corners, there's a little tab,
you hit it. And then boom, you

909
00:50:25,230 --> 00:50:29,850
get Google Maps or Google Earth,
I should say, or a it's probably

910
00:50:29,850 --> 00:50:33,360
Microsoft Live, but it looks
like Google Earth. There's

911
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,240
pictures of the hotel, and you
can do all the rotating and the

912
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:40,470
pinching and the expanding and
yeah, it was good. I was. That's

913
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:45,270
the shit Microsoft should be
making. Yeah, well, if it's even

914
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:48,240
Microsoft that look to it work
too well, for it to be

915
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:49,530
Microsoft, honestly.

916
00:50:51,060 --> 00:50:56,100
Well, they're not gonna, you
know, hey, you know, they drift

917
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:58,710
in and out of these things. It's
like weird and I don't know

918
00:50:58,710 --> 00:51:02,280
what's gonna happen. I mean, the
more people you know,

919
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,330
apparently, the government of
Holland is decided to go open

920
00:51:06,330 --> 00:51:06,960
source.

921
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:09,660
It they've been working on that
for a long time. I think that's

922
00:51:09,690 --> 00:51:13,050
a damn good initiative that
started in Amsterdam. I believe

923
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,310
that's where the initiative
started

924
00:51:14,310 --> 00:51:17,250
by the guy from the Dutch guy
yesterday. Oh, yeah.

925
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:21,660
For was it? Where was he from
from the government? Phillips,

926
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,340
Ah, right. He was just going on
and on about how his company

927
00:51:26,340 --> 00:51:29,910
doesn't, you know, they are
they're running Linux and Open

928
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:33,900
Office because he says why he
wants to spend? Why should we be

929
00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:37,200
spending 800 bucks a head office
where we can just run Open

930
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,200
Office and it does most of the
99% of what you want done. And

931
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:42,450
he mentioned, I didn't know
this, but the newest version of

932
00:51:42,450 --> 00:51:47,190
open office actually will read
and write a doc X file, which

933
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:50,100
I've told everyone in my family
never to use the I

934
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:53,820
hate those pretty good point.
PowerPoint. exe files as well.

935
00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:58,380
Completely. Not not backwards
compatible with anything. Yeah.

936
00:51:59,430 --> 00:52:03,330
Well, this is why Kleiner
Perkins invested in what's the

937
00:52:03,330 --> 00:52:08,580
name of that company, Kim
polices company. The it's a it's

938
00:52:08,580 --> 00:52:12,000
like an IT services company that
has it, you know that that will

939
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:17,490
service instals of Linux. For
the Linux organisation, you need

940
00:52:17,490 --> 00:52:20,070
that anyway, if you've got a big
company, you need someone on the

941
00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:22,530
outside helping you unless you
want to have 1000s of

942
00:52:22,530 --> 00:52:23,790
consultants running around.

943
00:52:25,980 --> 00:52:27,930
I really need somebody from the
outside.

944
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:32,310
I ran a 700 person organisation
Yeah, you need help from the

945
00:52:32,310 --> 00:52:33,240
outside you really

946
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:36,480
can't have like too good IT guys
and know what to do when you

947
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:37,170
have no idea

948
00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:40,260
where you're saying this shit is
hard. I mean, forget about just

949
00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:44,040
the physical layer of keeping
that working. The idiocy

950
00:52:44,070 --> 00:52:47,190
immunity to people full time for
the idiots we actually every

951
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:50,640
office needs at least one one
person, I lost my password. My

952
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,230
computer won't start all of this
shit. And then, you know, with

953
00:52:55,230 --> 00:52:58,110
Microsoft keeping compatible
versions of Office, are you

954
00:52:58,110 --> 00:53:01,470
kidding me? So you know, then
you have to have all the central

955
00:53:01,470 --> 00:53:04,590
instal stuff and then people
want laptops to be mobile and

956
00:53:04,590 --> 00:53:08,190
then units, you know, then then
that's the worst. Because how

957
00:53:08,190 --> 00:53:13,080
are you going to maintain that?
Oh, no, if I pass off to the IT

958
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,740
people of the world, man shit,
that is not an easy gig.

959
00:53:19,470 --> 00:53:21,030
They should send the wine where

960
00:53:25,350 --> 00:53:32,430
I'm serious. So speaking of
Dutch, the big G 20 Financial

961
00:53:32,430 --> 00:53:35,250
summit taking place today,
Saturday, November 15.

962
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:40,950
I just noticed you mentioned
that I they just did a you know,

963
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:47,010
I was watching the the Jim lair.
Team. And they had they had one

964
00:53:47,010 --> 00:53:50,100
that was they had a long
discussion about the G 20.

965
00:53:50,430 --> 00:53:54,870
Meeting. And I did tape it and I
was actually probably going to

966
00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:57,960
try to send you a disk of it or
did it turn out to be too long

967
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:03,510
for me to to upload. But go on.
I just because I have some

968
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:04,140
thoughts on it.

969
00:54:04,260 --> 00:54:07,260
Well, so I have I have many
thoughts. But just I was going

970
00:54:07,260 --> 00:54:09,630
to kind of ease into it by
saying that I was reading this

971
00:54:09,630 --> 00:54:14,640
morning on the way back from the
airport on online because just

972
00:54:14,670 --> 00:54:18,270
you know, sir, from my phone
that young paid to bulkan ENDA,

973
00:54:18,270 --> 00:54:21,690
who was the Prime Minister of
the Netherlands rushed back to

974
00:54:21,690 --> 00:54:24,750
Holland he you know, the the
conference has just started and

975
00:54:24,750 --> 00:54:27,150
he turned around went back
because his father passed away,

976
00:54:27,450 --> 00:54:30,660
which is which is sad, but what
I thought was kind of

977
00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:35,310
interesting is the Netherlands
is not a G 20 country. And there

978
00:54:35,310 --> 00:54:39,030
are several non g 20. It's like
they call it the G 20. Like it's

979
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:42,510
some secret club but then they
invite everybody else. And I say

980
00:54:42,570 --> 00:54:46,470
I don't get it. Other than that.
The Dutch royal family is of

981
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:48,450
course part of the Illuminati
and

982
00:54:50,820 --> 00:55:00,210
so sure the whales he had done
yeah. So they had a pretty Good

983
00:55:00,210 --> 00:55:03,960
analysis of the professor and
these decks you know all of them

984
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:09,150
were expats from someplace else
and the one guy came up with

985
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,180
obviously says, you know, it was
he says everything was fine when

986
00:55:12,180 --> 00:55:14,850
you had right after World War
Two and there was the first

987
00:55:14,850 --> 00:55:18,600
meeting was a G two, which was
England and the United States in

988
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,970
any figure out how they're going
to do things he says go back to

989
00:55:20,970 --> 00:55:23,550
a G to adjust the United States
and China figure out because it

990
00:55:23,550 --> 00:55:27,930
says, that's the real crux of
all this, of this problem is

991
00:55:27,930 --> 00:55:30,810
China and the United States. The
rest of these guys are just they

992
00:55:30,810 --> 00:55:33,240
have their own agenda. As he
says, there's this nothing's

993
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:36,030
gonna come out of this meeting.
It's a photo on a beat. It's

994
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,130
yeah, it's gonna be just a bunch
of guys, Oregon, because

995
00:55:38,130 --> 00:55:41,010
everyone has an outline, every
one of these countries that are

996
00:55:41,010 --> 00:55:43,590
involved, they have each one of
them have their own financial

997
00:55:43,620 --> 00:55:47,640
mess. And then when they sit in
there criticising the US and US

998
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,880
banks that the worst banks in
the world, apparently, and I

999
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,050
think we blogged this or in
England and Great Britain, the

1000
00:55:55,050 --> 00:55:57,720
American banking systems not as
bad as especially the the

1001
00:55:57,780 --> 00:56:03,720
Germans, and who are just
leveraged up to unbelievably

1002
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:07,050
leverage. And it's just a
fiasco.

1003
00:56:07,470 --> 00:56:11,790
Well, the first of all, you
can't have a just a G two with

1004
00:56:11,790 --> 00:56:14,430
the US and China, it has to
include the United Kingdom,

1005
00:56:14,430 --> 00:56:19,020
because the British Empire is,
in my mind, largely responsible

1006
00:56:19,020 --> 00:56:22,380
for a lot of what's happened in
the financial in the financial

1007
00:56:22,380 --> 00:56:26,430
sector or globally. And we
cannot ignore the fact that

1008
00:56:26,430 --> 00:56:32,010
brown Sarkozy, Merkel tree che,
who is the president of the

1009
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,030
European Central Bank, they are
literally calling for a New

1010
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:42,180
World Order and a new world
financial order, where the

1011
00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:46,680
European, the IMF, now they're
saying they want the IMF to be

1012
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,150
the central, like the spider in
the middle of the web of the new

1013
00:56:51,180 --> 00:56:56,790
of a new global financial
system. And, and from what I

1014
00:56:56,790 --> 00:56:59,460
understand, these guys have
already kind of figured out what

1015
00:56:59,460 --> 00:57:02,820
they want to do. And out of this
meeting, this photo op will come

1016
00:57:03,330 --> 00:57:07,170
and look forward in the press
that Europe is going to say,

1017
00:57:07,170 --> 00:57:11,760
okay, and with Europe, I'm gonna
include Russia, and maybe China

1018
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,250
will go along with it. They're
gonna say, Okay, here's how

1019
00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:17,700
we're going to run it IMF in the
middle, somehow, I guarantee

1020
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:20,280
you, there's going to be some
carbon shit in there. And then

1021
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:25,260
America will have like 100 days
to comply. And then we either go

1022
00:57:25,260 --> 00:57:29,250
along, or we or we get kicked
out. Something like that.

1023
00:57:29,490 --> 00:57:32,580
will hopefully we will go along
and see what happens.

1024
00:57:33,390 --> 00:57:36,810
But the thing you were getting
into was that was these were the

1025
00:57:36,810 --> 00:57:39,930
financial bailouts. And this is
this is indeed just crazy. So

1026
00:57:39,930 --> 00:57:43,740
now we have the automotive
industry wanting $50 billion on

1027
00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:50,190
top of the $25 billion for
retooling you know, this You're

1028
00:57:50,190 --> 00:57:53,580
so right. You know, what's next?
It'll be the airline industry

1029
00:57:53,580 --> 00:57:55,770
and then it'll be What did you
just say it was gonna be?

1030
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:59,190
Newspaper newspapers, because of
course, there'll be no no true

1031
00:57:59,190 --> 00:58:01,530
news. No real news. If they go
away.

1032
00:58:01,889 --> 00:58:05,249
Kenya was like, there's like
there's any now there was

1033
00:58:05,250 --> 00:58:07,470
a day when we had horse and
buggies? You know, those guys

1034
00:58:07,470 --> 00:58:12,930
went away. They didn't get no
bailout. You know, sometimes

1035
00:58:12,930 --> 00:58:15,840
shit just has to change. But
this it's not about cars. It's

1036
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,690
about the pension funds, the
pension funds, what they don't

1037
00:58:18,690 --> 00:58:21,060
want us they don't want to screw
millions of people out of their

1038
00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:26,100
pensions out of their gold
standard pensions. And Obama, of

1039
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:29,610
course, who took millions of
dollars from the unions will if

1040
00:58:29,610 --> 00:58:34,080
Bush doesn't do it, he'll do it.
He has to because it's all about

1041
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,040
the UAW.

1042
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,150
Great, well, you know, they made
the deal. And they're supposed

1043
00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:41,130
to try it at least but you know,
I think they should probably

1044
00:58:41,130 --> 00:58:45,060
just go bankrupt. I agree with
you. I totally agree. But you

1045
00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:46,920
listen to this, and well, you
know, you go bankrupt and you're

1046
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,980
going to leave a bunch of these
pensioners in soup lines is

1047
00:58:49,980 --> 00:58:52,410
going to be a disaster because
there's lots of them. There's

1048
00:58:52,410 --> 00:58:53,880
way too many, but someone

1049
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,540
has to hurt. I mean, do we want
to kill our children's future by

1050
00:58:57,540 --> 00:59:00,780
having it shipped for everybody?
Or can we maybe we can find some

1051
00:59:00,780 --> 00:59:03,990
kind of middle ground but yes,
someone has to hurt in all of

1052
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:04,470
this.

1053
00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:08,820
And it's not the bad guys. I
know for a fact that won't be

1054
00:59:08,820 --> 00:59:12,930
hurting all the executives.
Well, who screwed it up? Yeah.

1055
00:59:13,110 --> 00:59:21,450
Now of course they want and also
the new our government has a

1056
00:59:21,450 --> 00:59:23,460
very different pension plan than
you and I

1057
00:59:25,380 --> 00:59:28,470
the Senators and Representatives
they got a great pension plan.

1058
00:59:29,010 --> 00:59:32,070
Yep. And, and they have great
health care. Yeah, they should

1059
00:59:32,070 --> 00:59:35,310
share the same shit they're
offering us maybe that would

1060
00:59:35,310 --> 00:59:35,850
change it.

1061
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:41,550
Yeah, that's gonna happen. Yeah.
So what else let's get off this

1062
00:59:41,550 --> 00:59:45,270
topic. You come up with
something. I don't have

1063
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:47,820
anything. That's the funny thing
about this week. I don't think

1064
00:59:47,820 --> 00:59:50,340
anything interesting happened. I
thought it was a pretty slow

1065
00:59:50,340 --> 00:59:54,180
moving week. It's after the
election. You know, you have the

1066
00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:59,280
most of the thing is a soap
opera, and Michelle cat fight.

1067
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,750
As the most interesting thing,
it is, isn't that terrible?

1068
01:00:06,779 --> 01:00:07,949
That is kind enough.

1069
01:00:09,300 --> 01:00:12,750
Let me just I'm heading to
Portugal. Oh, that's happening.

1070
01:00:14,190 --> 01:00:17,160
Yeah, I'm leaving on Yeah. The
trouble is I'm running me to

1071
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,750
Frankfurt. So I can't stop by.

1072
01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:20,760
What are you going? What's the
day?

1073
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:26,099
I'm leaving on tomorrow? Really?
Yeah. Then I'll be back on next

1074
01:00:26,099 --> 01:00:28,769
Monday. So we have to push the
show off to Monday night.

1075
01:00:29,279 --> 01:00:32,369
Because I don't think I can do
it. I just don't think I'm gonna

1076
01:00:32,399 --> 01:00:33,869
have the bandwidth. Maybe.

1077
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:35,880
I mean, I know if you're in
Frankfurt, you know, the

1078
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:36,900
Frankfurt is

1079
01:00:36,929 --> 01:00:39,449
not going to be in Frankfurt.
I'm in Lisbon. I'm sorry,

1080
01:00:39,449 --> 01:00:39,869
Lisbon.

1081
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,740
Um, I've done shit from from
Lisbon. They're pretty wired.

1082
01:00:44,159 --> 01:00:46,139
Yeah, but I'm not going to be in
Lisbon that long. I mean, we're

1083
01:00:46,139 --> 01:00:48,479
going out to visit all these
high tech companies all over the

1084
01:00:48,479 --> 01:00:50,789
middle of nowhere we should have
they should be wired out there.

1085
01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:51,719
But I don't know. I would

1086
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,590
like to point out that in 57
episodes or 56. So far, not once

1087
01:00:55,590 --> 01:00:58,800
have I actually made us do the
show. Not on a weekend no matter

1088
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,220
what. And I travel a million
miles. And now you have one

1089
01:01:02,220 --> 01:01:04,380
little measly trip and we have
to do it on Monday.

1090
01:01:05,070 --> 01:01:08,220
Now you if you look back, we've
done a number of shows on

1091
01:01:08,220 --> 01:01:15,210
Thursdays. And I used to be just
obviously, getting old. Didn't

1092
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,180
number shows on Thursdays and
we've skipped it. We've done a

1093
01:01:18,180 --> 01:01:20,880
lot. A lot of we have done a
couple of Sunday shows I have to

1094
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,090
say, and I do remember doing a
Monday show,

1095
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,870
but people do get out of whack
man. They got out of whack.

1096
01:01:27,930 --> 01:01:31,740
Well, do you want to look if it
works out? I'll be actually

1097
01:01:31,740 --> 01:01:35,040
yeah, I'll be around. Saturday.
I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go to

1098
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:40,560
Holland with Patricia on Friday.
I want to see the live show. But

1099
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,380
I'll be back Saturday. So if you
want we do a Saturday, Sunday or

1100
01:01:43,380 --> 01:01:45,360
Monday is fine, too. I'm cool.
Okay, well, I'll

1101
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,300
try to do it on Saturday if I
can, but just bring your headset

1102
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,570
by the way, how does this mic
sound? You won't believe this.

1103
01:01:52,110 --> 01:01:55,980
So I Yeah, well, I didn't want
to take my whole my whole Heil

1104
01:01:55,980 --> 01:01:58,980
microphone and everything with
me. And so I just took my little

1105
01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:03,210
what's the name of this setup,
it's the Lectro it's actually

1106
01:02:03,210 --> 01:02:07,260
the wireless lav set that I
always carry with me. And and I

1107
01:02:07,260 --> 01:02:10,920
hooked it up to my Mac. So it's
it's input directly into the

1108
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:14,730
processing chain in Ableton
Live. And I must have gotten 10

1109
01:02:14,730 --> 01:02:17,580
emails from people saying dude,
you know, this microphone setup

1110
01:02:17,610 --> 01:02:22,530
sounds like 10 times better than
your normal setup. So now I'm

1111
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,620
literally down to a pair of
headphones and two little boxes

1112
01:02:25,620 --> 01:02:30,480
with a lav microphone. And
that's it. He using a lob now it

1113
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,140
well I have it stuck on stuck on
a mic stand. So it's not clipped

1114
01:02:34,140 --> 01:02:37,620
onto my collar or anything. I'm
just talking directly into it.

1115
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,400
And I have to agree it sounds a
million times better and I got

1116
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,820
all kinds of outboard gear and
external mixers. I think I got

1117
01:02:44,820 --> 01:02:48,210
to reevaluate my entire
processing chain here at the

1118
01:02:48,210 --> 01:02:49,740
manor. Well, there's a

1119
01:02:49,740 --> 01:02:55,080
lot of new microphone technology
showing up that uses MEMS what's

1120
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,340
what's MEMS mammas is a micro
electrical micro

1121
01:02:59,370 --> 01:03:04,920
electromechanical system. These
are the you know, the DLP from

1122
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,120
Texas Instruments is one of the
first examples of a ma'am, which

1123
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,610
is a semiconductor is made like
a semiconductor but it has

1124
01:03:11,610 --> 01:03:16,260
moving parts. Wow. And you know,
there's little mirrors on that

1125
01:03:16,260 --> 01:03:19,200
thing. Is that like
nanotechnology? Sorry, yeah,

1126
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,230
it's nanotechnology. In fact,
when you go to you find a lot of

1127
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:25,110
scales now that in some of these
high end hotels, you've seen

1128
01:03:25,110 --> 01:03:27,870
them. They're like, expensive.
Looks like just a piece of glass

1129
01:03:27,870 --> 01:03:30,840
and you step on it. Yeah, sure.
And there's no movement,

1130
01:03:31,110 --> 01:03:34,410
right? Yeah, you're right there
is there's there's no your foot

1131
01:03:34,410 --> 01:03:36,930
doesn't depress anything?

1132
01:03:37,260 --> 01:03:39,870
No, there's nothing's depressors
uh, ma'am, there's a memory

1133
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:45,210
device in there. And it tells
you what your way. Well, anyway,

1134
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,030
I think I'm not sure because
I've never I haven't really

1135
01:03:48,030 --> 01:03:51,060
looked at but one of the hottest
microphones out there right now

1136
01:03:51,300 --> 01:03:55,440
is the country man. And the
country man and Mike, you've

1137
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,170
seen it. But everyone has seen
these things. They tend they

1138
01:03:58,170 --> 01:04:02,490
tend to be flesh coloured. And
so mics around your ear, and

1139
01:04:02,490 --> 01:04:04,170
it's got a little bitty thing
that comes around in front of

1140
01:04:04,170 --> 01:04:07,830
your mouth. And the thing is
just got it's like a pin point.

1141
01:04:07,830 --> 01:04:12,090
It's just extremely small little
thing at the end. And a lot of

1142
01:04:12,090 --> 01:04:15,420
Country and Western singers use
them almost every bowl right?

1143
01:04:15,420 --> 01:04:18,720
When you have the ad on the
headset. Sure. Oh, really? Ah,

1144
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,110
okay. I was always one. They use
it on lots of TV shows now and I

1145
01:04:22,110 --> 01:04:24,480
used to be against it because it
would never really sound good.

1146
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:29,280
But in the theatres now, when
you go to a Broadway play, or

1147
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,010
maybe the West End, you can't
you know, sometimes you can see

1148
01:04:32,010 --> 01:04:35,040
the mics. They're now becoming
completely invisible. And the

1149
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,510
sound is phenomenal.

1150
01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:39,180
The sound on a country man,
because the first time I use it

1151
01:04:39,180 --> 01:04:41,970
was about a year ago. And
somebody says I said you these

1152
01:04:41,970 --> 01:04:44,430
things. I said, Yeah, I've seen
these things, are they he says

1153
01:04:44,430 --> 01:04:47,820
Do you got it you won't believe
the sound. And so you use it and

1154
01:04:47,820 --> 01:04:52,170
you just it sounds like a big
condenser mic. It's gorgeous.

1155
01:04:52,170 --> 01:04:57,180
The sound. They cost about 350
bucks. And it's just a really

1156
01:04:57,180 --> 01:04:59,700
nice microphone, and they're
called countryman.

1157
01:04:59,820 --> 01:05:02,520
You But the problem is though, I
mean, I'm pretty old school when

1158
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,120
it comes to, to broadcasting and
I like kind of having a you

1159
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:10,560
know, a nice fat you know, thing
in front of my face you know,

1160
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,440
it's fine like almost John I
mean the idea of having a little

1161
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,500
puny little tiny dick Mike it
just doesn't feel right. You

1162
01:05:16,500 --> 01:05:20,250
know, I gotta have like a grab
onto it there and yeah, move it

1163
01:05:20,250 --> 01:05:21,510
around when you're talking.

1164
01:05:21,900 --> 01:05:28,380
Yeah, yeah, I guess you know you
and Ed Sullivan. The big boom

1165
01:05:28,380 --> 01:05:29,940
make sure that we're over the
head.

1166
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,570
I got this email. i This is
something I did want to talk to

1167
01:05:33,570 --> 01:05:38,580
you about. Fuck no, I gotta find
it, apparently. And there's some

1168
01:05:38,580 --> 01:05:43,530
pictures circulating the net.
There's some Some so called

1169
01:05:43,530 --> 01:05:47,190
technology and I say so called
for a number of reasons called

1170
01:05:47,190 --> 01:05:52,020
like pee pee pee. But like
progressive picture something or

1171
01:05:52,020 --> 01:05:55,650
that I gotta look up this email,
where they've taken a video

1172
01:05:55,650 --> 01:05:58,860
still of an aeroplane flying,
you know, the one of the like

1173
01:05:58,860 --> 01:06:06,090
flight 177 flying in just before
it flies into the towers. See, I

1174
01:06:06,090 --> 01:06:10,470
can find this fucking email. And
then they're able to zoom in

1175
01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:16,770
digitally as it were and render
the faces in the cockpit. I'm

1176
01:06:16,770 --> 01:06:18,870
surprised you haven't seen this
because you certainly would have

1177
01:06:18,870 --> 01:06:19,530
blogged it.

1178
01:06:19,950 --> 01:06:23,250
I probably would have debunked
it. lol I

1179
01:06:23,250 --> 01:06:26,130
totally think it's fake. But as
I'm receiving this from tonnes

1180
01:06:26,130 --> 01:06:30,450
of people right now which is
weird why I can't find I can't

1181
01:06:30,450 --> 01:06:32,970
find one of these emails here we
go first ever images from

1182
01:06:32,970 --> 01:06:35,430
cockpit Oh flight 175

1183
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,580
I'm reminded of the you always
get the biggest kick out of the

1184
01:06:38,580 --> 01:06:42,570
TV shows that you'll have you
know, they'll have some some

1185
01:06:42,570 --> 01:06:48,450
crappy camcorder outside on a
gas station. And then you know,

1186
01:06:48,690 --> 01:06:51,510
so they say okay, and they you
know, there's a typical CSI

1187
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:59,340
thing. Okay, zoom in. Now
enhance it and and they get the

1188
01:06:59,340 --> 01:07:01,530
light and a half miles away

1189
01:07:01,620 --> 01:07:05,250
all but do those licence plates
here in the UK. Now, every

1190
01:07:05,250 --> 01:07:09,570
single gas station you go to,
you walk into pay. And right

1191
01:07:09,570 --> 01:07:12,330
there, there's a monitor and you
see, you know, the past the

1192
01:07:12,330 --> 01:07:16,110
previous 20 licence plates that
have gotten gas and you see your

1193
01:07:16,110 --> 01:07:18,480
car right there on the in a
picture and you see their

1194
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,020
licence plates been scanned? The
things it's pretty amazing

1195
01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:24,120
technology, this look at that
link I just sent you.

1196
01:07:24,510 --> 01:07:27,180
And unfortunately my browser's
not working. I think I'm I think

1197
01:07:27,180 --> 01:07:29,640
this my stacks out of sync and
have to reboot the computer.

1198
01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:35,190
Now so anyway, that might be
something I want to blog to. I

1199
01:07:35,190 --> 01:07:38,670
agree to do to debunk. But I'm
getting a lot of it.

1200
01:07:39,150 --> 01:07:41,400
But anyway, this sort of reminds
me of this kind of thing where

1201
01:07:41,940 --> 01:07:45,180
they say enhance it more. Okay.
Yeah, the computer geek knows

1202
01:07:45,180 --> 01:07:47,070
that he has a special trick he
types up.

1203
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:49,800
They know where they do that on
what's the show Vegas.

1204
01:07:50,670 --> 01:07:54,300
They used to they used to in
Vegas all the time. They used to

1205
01:07:54,300 --> 01:07:56,610
do all the fancy stuff where
they do the point where they did

1206
01:07:56,610 --> 01:07:59,520
my other favourite one is run
his prints through the data.

1207
01:08:00,990 --> 01:08:04,260
Like within to say you know how
long it takes to run print?

1208
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,610
I don't know. It could take
days, why don't you have like

1209
01:08:08,610 --> 01:08:13,170
the monitor and you have to have
the apprentice face

1210
01:08:13,170 --> 01:08:14,700
come up by now. And it goes

1211
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,320
to match. partial match.

1212
01:08:20,939 --> 01:08:24,629
You know the other one, the
other pile of crap that's on TV

1213
01:08:24,629 --> 01:08:28,349
all the time that I'm always
amused by is they create a point

1214
01:08:28,349 --> 01:08:33,059
of interest or a point of
suspense. They do the actually

1215
01:08:33,059 --> 01:08:35,849
my kids are all aware of this
too. And it's like the family

1216
01:08:35,849 --> 01:08:39,659
collectively rolls its eyes when
this one comes on. It's like a

1217
01:08:39,659 --> 01:08:42,839
guy calls up. He's like a
kidnapper some run a trace on

1218
01:08:42,839 --> 01:08:46,049
his phone. Okay, the traces on
the guy, pull them out of the

1219
01:08:46,049 --> 01:08:48,599
line, hold them on the minutes,
keep them out a little longer.

1220
01:08:48,719 --> 01:08:53,459
Oh, we hung up. This information
comes over instantly. With the

1221
01:08:53,459 --> 01:08:55,829
call. There's no tracing anymore
every year

1222
01:08:55,860 --> 01:08:57,000
caller ID.

1223
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:03,119
This is like from years ago. I
mean, 20 years do I think maybe

1224
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:06,809
30 years ago, on almost every
call whether you even use caller

1225
01:09:06,809 --> 01:09:09,989
ID or not. There's enough
information on the on the data

1226
01:09:09,989 --> 01:09:12,809
that that initiates the call
that you know exactly where that

1227
01:09:12,809 --> 01:09:15,539
what the number is and where
it's coming from. Yeah, but they

1228
01:09:15,539 --> 01:09:18,989
keep using this as a suspenseful
note. And I think it's just such

1229
01:09:19,019 --> 01:09:23,579
bold crap that I wish somebody
would just bust it, say in you

1230
01:09:23,579 --> 01:09:26,219
know, at some point, or unless
they're trying to keep dumb

1231
01:09:26,219 --> 01:09:29,819
criminals thinking that, you
know, I don't know, I don't know

1232
01:09:29,819 --> 01:09:30,779
what the point of it is.

1233
01:09:31,079 --> 01:09:34,349
No, I think it's the condition.
You know, it was just lame

1234
01:09:34,349 --> 01:09:39,599
writing. Maybe that's it just
lame writing. Because I mean, I

1235
01:09:39,599 --> 01:09:41,969
could think of a million
conspiracy theories, easy for

1236
01:09:41,969 --> 01:09:48,599
that one. Easy. Yet anyways, and
we talked about Echelon and all

1237
01:09:48,599 --> 01:09:52,529
that stuff. And we know that
everything's being traced and

1238
01:09:52,529 --> 01:09:55,439
tracked and recorded and hey,
that thing in Australia is

1239
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,019
really happening now. John, it's
implemented implementing a test

1240
01:09:58,019 --> 01:10:01,799
system as we speak the D
censorship, censorship. Yeah.

1241
01:10:02,069 --> 01:10:04,289
And I get emails from people.
And I'm amazed to say like,

1242
01:10:04,289 --> 01:10:06,719
well, you know, this is
outrageous. I've got to stop

1243
01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:10,139
this. I mean, sure, we should,
we should stop the kiddie porn

1244
01:10:10,139 --> 01:10:14,519
scum. And it's the same thing
and like, if they can, it's not

1245
01:10:14,519 --> 01:10:17,879
that hard to find out where a
server is, okay? It's not that

1246
01:10:17,879 --> 01:10:21,599
hard to take down a server with
your military botnet. Now, it's

1247
01:10:21,599 --> 01:10:25,139
not if people are processing
credit cards, it's just not that

1248
01:10:25,139 --> 01:10:29,669
hard to figure it out and shut
it down. You know, do not accept

1249
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,479
any type of filtering, do not
accept it. Because the next

1250
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,989
thing no third on the list is
going to be kiddie kiddie porn

1251
01:10:36,989 --> 01:10:41,369
first. And then it's our show,
John. That was like, oh, we

1252
01:10:41,369 --> 01:10:45,929
can't have anti Americanism when
we can have anti patriotic talk.

1253
01:10:46,229 --> 01:10:47,909
That's the next thing. It's
gonna happen.

1254
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,449
Chloe, I'm surprised you're not
blocked in the EU already?

1255
01:10:52,350 --> 01:10:56,460
Well, in the EU, they're already
they're absolutely public Wi Fi

1256
01:10:56,460 --> 01:11:01,950
that block certain sites? You
betcha, has taken place.

1257
01:11:04,350 --> 01:11:06,810
Well, you know, there's always
you know, as long as you have a

1258
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,580
wallet, you can block content
that is like just a downloadable

1259
01:11:11,580 --> 01:11:13,770
podcast, it's pretty hard to
search that stuff. I mean,

1260
01:11:13,770 --> 01:11:17,430
they'd have to actually go out
of their way to block us. No,

1261
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:17,670
not

1262
01:11:17,670 --> 01:11:23,850
at all. We're curry.com has now
blocked on Vodafone. Is it?

1263
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:28,980
Yeah. But curry.me veoh.com is
not, you know, we spend a lot of

1264
01:11:28,980 --> 01:11:32,790
money. This is the scam. And by
the way, it's only going to get

1265
01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:39,810
worse. We spend I'm going to say
between 40 and $50,000 a month

1266
01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:45,210
to stay on whitelists for email
whitelist for ISP blocking for

1267
01:11:45,210 --> 01:11:51,480
net Vanny for strong mail. You
know, it's fucking outrageous.

1268
01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:55,770
Because these guys it's a scam
they have it set up with, with

1269
01:11:55,770 --> 01:11:59,850
all the ISPs with all the big
email companies like MSN and

1270
01:11:59,850 --> 01:12:04,110
Gmail, and they'll negotiate for
you and they'll be your by

1271
01:12:04,110 --> 01:12:08,610
proxy. They'll maintain the
whitelist for all these

1272
01:12:08,610 --> 01:12:11,790
companies because it's a
business. It's an absolute

1273
01:12:11,790 --> 01:12:15,870
profitable business. They're
running and it's a scam. And now

1274
01:12:15,870 --> 01:12:18,000
the government is going to get
into the game watch.

1275
01:12:18,990 --> 01:12:23,460
Yeah, you're probably right. It
is a scam. It's ridiculous.

1276
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:26,220
I wish people realise that.

1277
01:12:27,420 --> 01:12:30,570
Well, the Australians are idiots
if they're gonna let this

1278
01:12:30,570 --> 01:12:31,080
happen.

1279
01:12:31,620 --> 01:12:36,180
Thank you. I'm glad you're out
of that. Because I'm gonna go to

1280
01:12:36,810 --> 01:12:39,300
Australia is always tough guys.
I mean, they always present

1281
01:12:39,300 --> 01:12:42,180
themselves as such. Yeah, they
pushed around like this. It's

1282
01:12:42,180 --> 01:12:45,060
ridiculous. Yeah, this deep on
the Capitol.

1283
01:12:45,090 --> 01:12:48,690
Where's Crocodile Dundee? What
the hell is that? He should be

1284
01:12:48,690 --> 01:12:53,730
good. I might don't feel dry
internet. I'm making a trip down

1285
01:12:53,730 --> 01:12:57,570
to Australia. I've promised my
my daily source code listeners

1286
01:12:58,230 --> 01:13:06,690
when in 2009 Because in the past
year, a lot of seemingly

1287
01:13:06,990 --> 01:13:11,610
exciting energy technologies are
popping out of Australia and a

1288
01:13:11,610 --> 01:13:14,400
lot of magnet engines a lot of
stuff like that. And so I want

1289
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,410
to go and see some of this
stuff. And I got the hydroxy

1290
01:13:16,410 --> 01:13:20,100
booster. I know that works to a
degree. So I'm gonna go and look

1291
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:22,350
at some of this magnet stuff.
Yeah, these guys are doing they

1292
01:13:22,350 --> 01:13:25,050
got nothing. Yeah, that's what's
down there. Sheet and kangaroos.

1293
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,120
And Opal minds.

1294
01:13:28,770 --> 01:13:31,320
Oh, it gets a relish. If nothing
else, you bring back some old

1295
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:31,710
bulls.

1296
01:13:31,890 --> 01:13:35,670
The thing though, is I've been
asking my listeners to send me

1297
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,260
Australian porn. This is the
funny thing. There's so I'm

1298
01:13:40,260 --> 01:13:42,600
like, hey, you know, send me
some Australian porn for me that

1299
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:45,390
there's only like one porn site
in all of Australia.

1300
01:13:46,740 --> 01:13:48,990
But then why they filtering it?
Exactly.

1301
01:13:50,460 --> 01:13:52,380
They got nothing going on there
and porn.

1302
01:13:52,890 --> 01:13:56,370
They're obviously trying to
repress the public's. Do they

1303
01:13:56,370 --> 01:13:59,100
ever it's always boils down to
finding out who's voting for

1304
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:03,270
who. And let's screw with the
guys who vote against us. And

1305
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,300
that's been the other thing,
which I always say one reason

1306
01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:08,370
that you don't want the
government want monitoring all

1307
01:14:08,370 --> 01:14:11,340
this stuff is let's start
monitoring private conversations

1308
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:14,070
of all the venture capitalists
to see what's up. And we can

1309
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:16,050
make our investments
appropriately.

1310
01:14:16,860 --> 01:14:22,740
With the money we just stole.
Yeah, what did you see I posted

1311
01:14:22,740 --> 01:14:25,410
on curry.com. I know you don't
give a shit about anything I do.

1312
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,460
But you might want to actually
it's on my Flickr, Flickr site.

1313
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,820
I had a meeting and I had to
scan the business card.

1314
01:14:33,899 --> 01:14:37,289
And you showed me that I saw it.
Did you like it? Yeah, it was

1315
01:14:37,289 --> 01:14:40,199
okay. Yeah. Actually, to be
honest, I don't know what the

1316
01:14:40,199 --> 01:14:40,949
point of it was.

1317
01:14:40,979 --> 01:14:44,759
Well, it says Bear Stearns, a JP
Morgan company on the business

1318
01:14:44,759 --> 01:14:47,279
card. I thought you know, that's
like if you're from New York

1319
01:14:47,279 --> 01:14:50,669
finance, that's just something
you cannot believe you ever see.

1320
01:14:51,449 --> 01:14:55,109
Oh, it was so real. And anyone
at Bear Stearns was like, hey,

1321
01:14:55,109 --> 01:14:59,669
that's impossible. Anyway, a lot
of Wall Street types I spoke to

1322
01:14:59,759 --> 01:15:02,699
say Think this is this is the
Buying Opportunity now is the

1323
01:15:02,699 --> 01:15:05,699
buying opportunity of a
lifetime, which by the way, I do

1324
01:15:05,699 --> 01:15:08,279
agree with, to some extent,
unreal, something that

1325
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,280
says, Yeah, I agree to I say I
wrote a column about this in

1326
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,770
MarketWatch. It says, I said,
you know, it's funny that

1327
01:15:13,770 --> 01:15:16,290
they're the these experts always
telling you, when the market

1328
01:15:16,290 --> 01:15:19,230
starts going up, you're supposed
to, like, slowly sell off, you

1329
01:15:19,230 --> 01:15:22,560
know, as soon as it starts
banging in the top, but nobody

1330
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,900
ever tells you to, like do a
little bottom feeding once in a

1331
01:15:24,900 --> 01:15:25,230
while.

1332
01:15:25,259 --> 01:15:26,159
There's a lot of good

1333
01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:29,909
companies $13 I mean, holy
mackerel, yeah. I

1334
01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:33,300
mean, it's gonna go up because
these guys make the world. It is

1335
01:15:33,390 --> 01:15:37,500
like two bucks. And those are I
mean, I'm not in the market. And

1336
01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:40,380
and you know, me, I'm tired of
it won't do it. And I'm done

1337
01:15:40,380 --> 01:15:46,080
with it. But yeah, I mean, that
seems totally logical. You know,

1338
01:15:46,350 --> 01:15:48,900
Intel. Yeah. Right now, it's
tough because they got no

1339
01:15:48,900 --> 01:15:51,930
orders. I mean, that's logical.
We're going into a, into a

1340
01:15:51,930 --> 01:15:56,340
slowdown, which, by the way, I
think in hindsight, depending of

1341
01:15:56,340 --> 01:15:58,830
course, on what the new
financial system becomes, but

1342
01:15:58,830 --> 01:16:02,550
but what's really happening is
people are saving money. Good

1343
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:09,000
Anya. And now, Walmart is doing
layaways. We talked about that a

1344
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,510
couple of weeks ago, that doing
layaway through their email

1345
01:16:12,510 --> 01:16:16,890
marketing. And people are
keeping money in their pocket,

1346
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:21,000
you know, it sure is grinding
the economy to a halt. So what

1347
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,760
shifts finally going to be
affordable

1348
01:16:25,229 --> 01:16:30,569
for a while. So there was a good
blog post that we had a some guy

1349
01:16:30,569 --> 01:16:32,669
can't remember his name, but
he's like one of these fairly,

1350
01:16:32,819 --> 01:16:36,719
fairly famous as someone who's a
good prognosticator. And he ran

1351
01:16:36,719 --> 01:16:40,559
down a horrible scenario for the
next four years with under

1352
01:16:40,559 --> 01:16:45,359
Obama, which concluded with in
2012, were the best Christmas

1353
01:16:45,359 --> 01:16:45,989
gifts

1354
01:16:51,510 --> 01:16:55,380
Thank you Rami. Cupcake, all
cupcake.

1355
01:16:55,410 --> 01:16:56,460
I got a potato.

1356
01:16:57,359 --> 01:17:01,199
Potato. I got a potato for
Christmas. What did you get?

1357
01:17:01,229 --> 01:17:03,839
Well, listen, in the United
States. We can't imagine this

1358
01:17:03,839 --> 01:17:08,069
right for my father. My father
in law just turned 83 today. And

1359
01:17:08,069 --> 01:17:12,209
guys had a quintuple bypass
pacemaker for 25 years. But he

1360
01:17:12,209 --> 01:17:17,789
was a 1415 year old boy in the
Second World War, and he ate out

1361
01:17:17,789 --> 01:17:20,609
of trash cans. And we you know,
we can't imagine that in the

1362
01:17:20,609 --> 01:17:24,599
United States. Europe certainly
remembers. It's not that long

1363
01:17:24,599 --> 01:17:27,689
ago. You know, there's a very
different culture and food Yeah,

1364
01:17:27,689 --> 01:17:30,149
I can just imagine and it can
happen.

1365
01:17:30,569 --> 01:17:33,539
Well, you know, people do which
still, there are the homeless

1366
01:17:33,539 --> 01:17:38,639
still go to trash bins. Here's a
story that you you would be

1367
01:17:38,639 --> 01:17:42,089
amused by the homeless still go
to trash bins and grab stuff.

1368
01:17:42,089 --> 01:17:44,969
And you my wife actually used to
go to Monterey foods. Trashman

1369
01:17:44,969 --> 01:17:47,849
because she had so damn many
rabbits to feed literally, yeah,

1370
01:17:47,879 --> 01:17:51,359
that she'd get greens and she
would talk to these people. And

1371
01:17:51,359 --> 01:17:53,369
these homeless people would come
in there and get food for their

1372
01:17:53,369 --> 01:17:57,029
family for whatever reason. And
she said, and but the big

1373
01:17:57,029 --> 01:18:00,329
complaint was these groups of
people and there was one

1374
01:18:00,359 --> 01:18:03,569
highlighted on TV the other day,
and one of the, you know, the

1375
01:18:03,599 --> 01:18:06,539
the public broadcasting station
on some one of these, you know,

1376
01:18:06,539 --> 01:18:10,349
hyper liberal shows about how,
how this was a good thing. This

1377
01:18:10,349 --> 01:18:15,029
group of people in California
called Freegans. And the

1378
01:18:15,029 --> 01:18:18,029
Freegans are dumpster divers
there. These are people and this

1379
01:18:18,029 --> 01:18:21,059
one guy who bragged about he was
a professor, I think at one of

1380
01:18:21,059 --> 01:18:23,939
the colleges around here, I
can't remember exactly which

1381
01:18:23,939 --> 01:18:27,239
one. He seemed a little weird,
but he was a college professor.

1382
01:18:27,299 --> 01:18:32,159
He makes like, you know, 100 100
plus $1,000 A year and feels

1383
01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:37,109
obliged to go into dumpsters and
grab food because he's so much

1384
01:18:37,109 --> 01:18:39,149
good food they showed him he
says, Look at this, this is a

1385
01:18:39,389 --> 01:18:44,099
absolutely fine apple. If you
cut off the one side you it's

1386
01:18:44,099 --> 01:18:47,219
very edible and he was loading
up. Meanwhile, there are people

1387
01:18:47,219 --> 01:18:50,579
homeless, starving to death and
these idiots who have all the

1388
01:18:50,579 --> 01:18:53,099
money in the world for all
practical purposes in terms of

1389
01:18:53,129 --> 01:18:55,319
being able to go out and
actually buy something and keep

1390
01:18:55,319 --> 01:18:58,709
the economy going. Or dumpster
diving because they're part of

1391
01:18:58,709 --> 01:19:03,059
this friggin revolution is
pathetic.

1392
01:19:04,110 --> 01:19:07,830
No, it's really pathetic as I
come home, and Patricia says,

1393
01:19:07,860 --> 01:19:10,530
oh, wow was so beautiful
yesterday that had a big

1394
01:19:10,530 --> 01:19:14,190
telethon. That United Kingdom is
great at telethons. And they

1395
01:19:14,190 --> 01:19:17,070
roll out and they've got they've
kind of got their their Johnny

1396
01:19:17,070 --> 01:19:20,100
Carson. You know, they've got to
serve Terry Wogan, and they'll

1397
01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:23,280
do something funny, and, you
know, the whole country watches

1398
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:28,710
and they raised 20 million
pounds for poor children. And I

1399
01:19:28,710 --> 01:19:31,440
said to Patricia said, you know,
isn't it crazy, you know, like,

1400
01:19:31,470 --> 01:19:35,790
we spend that entire evening the
whole country is engaged in

1401
01:19:35,790 --> 01:19:38,670
raising this money. People are
pulling nickels and dimes and

1402
01:19:38,670 --> 01:19:41,520
pounds and pence out of their
pockets and they're sending in

1403
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,190
this money and they're a part of
a movement and they really want

1404
01:19:44,190 --> 01:19:46,830
to try and achieve something and
help the children. And

1405
01:19:46,830 --> 01:19:52,050
meanwhile, you know, 20 million
pounds as a fraction of the 600

1406
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:56,400
billion euros that they've gave
to fucking banks, which was our

1407
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:01,290
money as well. This just trips
me out. Let's One of them fail,

1408
01:20:01,350 --> 01:20:05,580
fix health care, feed the
children save the gay whales

1409
01:20:05,610 --> 01:20:06,480
we're done.

1410
01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:12,480
Now, got it dish executives,
they need their bailout. And

1411
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:17,610
they're taken a lot of Yeah,
hanging light. They should be

1412
01:20:17,610 --> 01:20:19,980
these guys should be, you know,
this is if you ever really see a

1413
01:20:19,980 --> 01:20:23,250
true depression where you get
that 25% unemployment, these

1414
01:20:23,250 --> 01:20:26,880
guys have abused the privilege
to such an extent I've talked

1415
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,120
to, by the way, some billionaire
friends of mine about this. And

1416
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:34,440
they're well aware of this
possibility that the public

1417
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:38,310
could get to the point where
they literally stole storm

1418
01:20:38,340 --> 01:20:42,030
Atherton and burned down
mansions and kill people. I

1419
01:20:42,030 --> 01:20:44,250
mean, this happened during the
French Revolution. This is not

1420
01:20:44,250 --> 01:20:48,480
the kind of thing that doesn't
ever happen. Where the rich

1421
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:53,610
people are literally attacked in
mass by hordes of angry people.

1422
01:20:54,810 --> 01:20:58,290
Because they essentially abuse
the system, which many of them

1423
01:20:58,290 --> 01:21:00,510
have done. That wasn't like
somebody pointed out to the

1424
01:21:00,510 --> 01:21:03,810
other day how when Lee Iacocca
took over I guess it was Ford or

1425
01:21:03,810 --> 01:21:07,140
whatever he you know, he says My
salary is gonna be $1 a year

1426
01:21:07,140 --> 01:21:08,670
until I fix this company.

1427
01:21:09,150 --> 01:21:12,660
Nobody does that anymore. Steve
Jobs, Steve Jobs that works for

1428
01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:13,530
$1 Each jobs

1429
01:21:13,529 --> 01:21:16,589
is the last one. But the rest of
these guys is no, I'm going to

1430
01:21:16,589 --> 01:21:18,899
make his I'm going to make $300
million a year and I want every

1431
01:21:18,899 --> 01:21:21,809
bonus possible. And then I went
to golden parachutes and golden

1432
01:21:21,809 --> 01:21:24,449
everything. So if I quit, you
gotta give me another half a

1433
01:21:24,449 --> 01:21:26,999
billion. And then they you know,
and the next thing you know,

1434
01:21:26,999 --> 01:21:29,069
they got three or four weeks
yachts and they got a big

1435
01:21:29,069 --> 01:21:33,389
mansion that's ridiculously
large as they can't even use. So

1436
01:21:33,390 --> 01:21:38,490
this, this corroborates my
theory about what happened with

1437
01:21:38,490 --> 01:21:44,130
the public servants, Russell
Brand and Jonathan Ross. So

1438
01:21:44,130 --> 01:21:46,620
remember, Jonathan Ross, who
makes 6 million pounds a year

1439
01:21:46,620 --> 01:21:49,230
for doing a talk show on Friday
night and a couple of radio

1440
01:21:49,230 --> 01:21:52,560
shows on the public broadcaster,
the BBC, it's always been a

1441
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,980
point of discussion. But now
everyone's so fed up with all

1442
01:21:55,980 --> 01:22:00,330
these with these guys taken
hundreds of millions of in

1443
01:22:00,330 --> 01:22:04,410
salary, and fucking everybody
that, you know, they go for the

1444
01:22:04,410 --> 01:22:07,440
lowest hanging fruit and the
minute you know, Jonathan Ross

1445
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:10,200
screws up and it's just not
funny. Forget if he insulted

1446
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,410
anyone, he just wasn't funny.
The whole country goes apeshit.

1447
01:22:13,410 --> 01:22:16,410
And they're like, Oh, this is
ridiculous. And it's it is the

1448
01:22:16,410 --> 01:22:18,990
first step towards exactly what
you're saying, John?

1449
01:22:21,180 --> 01:22:22,440
Yeah, riots.

1450
01:22:22,770 --> 01:22:25,920
The only difference is in the
United States citizens have

1451
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:26,730
guns.

1452
01:22:27,659 --> 01:22:29,759
Well, it's gonna be worse in the
United States. I mean, it's the

1453
01:22:29,759 --> 01:22:32,429
problem with the United States
is a lot of people haven't

1454
01:22:32,429 --> 01:22:35,639
noticed this. But Obama has a
citizen militia that he wants to

1455
01:22:35,639 --> 01:22:36,149
put together.

1456
01:22:36,150 --> 01:22:39,690
Oh, geez, this is, this is huge.
Go ahead. Talk about I love

1457
01:22:39,690 --> 01:22:40,080
this.

1458
01:22:40,590 --> 01:22:45,000
Yeah. And this was brought up in
Colorado and Colorado in July,

1459
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,490
he first brought this up, and
it's never really been denied.

1460
01:22:47,490 --> 01:22:49,770
And if you dig around on the
website, you find find it

1461
01:22:49,770 --> 01:22:52,350
right there. I'm going to Brock
obama.com. Right now it's on the

1462
01:22:52,350 --> 01:22:52,980
website.

1463
01:22:53,729 --> 01:22:57,959
He wants to put a together as
citizen, which I consider to be

1464
01:22:57,959 --> 01:23:03,479
brown shirts, by the way, a
citizen militia is bigger than

1465
01:23:03,509 --> 01:23:07,139
the military and better funded
to protect the country

1466
01:23:07,139 --> 01:23:12,119
internally. By now there was
national police are called

1467
01:23:12,119 --> 01:23:14,849
whatever they're going to be
called. Yep.

1468
01:23:16,590 --> 01:23:17,850
I think it's listed under

1469
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:22,530
military. Nobody has. I mean,
except for a few right wing

1470
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,020
talk, guys and a couple of
articles. You can look this up

1471
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,590
on Google. anybody out there
wants to get into it. And you're

1472
01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:31,500
gonna read the whole comment the
whole thing Barak said in

1473
01:23:31,500 --> 01:23:36,300
Colorado in July, and nobody has
seems to be too upset about

1474
01:23:36,300 --> 01:23:39,960
this. It's you and I'm going
What are you kidding me? You're

1475
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:44,160
gonna do to put together a
national police force, bigger

1476
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:50,040
than the US military better
funded. For what, John? Don't we

1477
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,440
have a local police already? I
mean, don't they do the job for

1478
01:23:52,440 --> 01:23:54,810
keeping us from getting robbed
or whatever, pull over drug

1479
01:23:54,810 --> 01:23:56,700
traffic tickets? What are these
guys gonna do?

1480
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,959
John, I mean, the truthers or
the conspiracy theorists out

1481
01:24:00,959 --> 01:24:04,229
there have been screaming about
this. This is the problem. I

1482
01:24:04,229 --> 01:24:07,589
can't even get this message to
you. We're out here, man. We're

1483
01:24:07,589 --> 01:24:11,849
talking about this shit.
Specifically this issue? No one

1484
01:24:11,849 --> 01:24:13,499
I don't think people care.

1485
01:24:15,090 --> 01:24:17,670
I don't think they I think the
problem is they haven't been

1486
01:24:17,670 --> 01:24:20,820
told to care. They're at the
point right now then. Unless the

1487
01:24:20,820 --> 01:24:24,660
major media which is you know,
basically Barack Obama's public

1488
01:24:24,660 --> 01:24:28,350
relations agency decides to tell
people to care, they're not

1489
01:24:28,350 --> 01:24:31,080
going to care. Now, I think that
the thing is, is that once any

1490
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,630
of these things try it, they
once they try to implement any

1491
01:24:33,630 --> 01:24:37,500
of these things, I mean, talk is
cheap. And the Brock Obama list

1492
01:24:37,500 --> 01:24:39,570
of things he's going to do is
huge. And he said, we're gonna

1493
01:24:39,570 --> 01:24:41,190
do this, we're gonna do that.
We're gonna fix this, we're

1494
01:24:41,190 --> 01:24:46,140
gonna fix that we're gonna get
both sama and the list is long.

1495
01:24:46,140 --> 01:24:48,600
And once they start to implement
one of these things, I think

1496
01:24:49,170 --> 01:24:52,020
there may be some evidence that
the media is going to think

1497
01:24:52,020 --> 01:24:54,960
twice about it, their situation
because they're the biggest

1498
01:24:54,960 --> 01:25:00,270
targets. First thing you do is
you wipe out the report. Are

1499
01:25:00,270 --> 01:25:00,360
you?

1500
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,800
Are you kidding me? That's not
how you get if you're going to

1501
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,260
broadcast the shows where you
say, Oh, you got to get Yeah,

1502
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,440
that's a better way of saying
it. But no, I look at it from

1503
01:25:10,440 --> 01:25:12,450
the entertainment standpoint,
they're not going to get rid of

1504
01:25:12,450 --> 01:25:16,110
their transmitter, they need the
broadcast to keep the show

1505
01:25:16,110 --> 01:25:19,260
going. That's how it works
television. Actually, that's a

1506
01:25:19,260 --> 01:25:23,700
big part of what we had this
discussion in New York. So we're

1507
01:25:23,700 --> 01:25:27,360
about to switch to digital
television. And no one ever

1508
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,690
talks about why or what the
significance of that is, but the

1509
01:25:30,690 --> 01:25:33,570
radio industry at least has
figured out one part of that,

1510
01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:36,840
you'll notice that radio is not
transitioning to digital audio

1511
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,020
broadcasts, it's already
available. But it's essentially

1512
01:25:40,020 --> 01:25:43,050
failed. And I'll tell you why.
Because television, of course,

1513
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,980
is used for indoctrination, and
as other money flowing in those

1514
01:25:46,980 --> 01:25:50,520
circles. But in radio, it pretty
much comes from selling shit to

1515
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,660
your audience during drive time.
When you go to da, B, you've

1516
01:25:54,660 --> 01:25:58,380
just diluted the entire
offering. The whole reason why

1517
01:25:58,410 --> 01:26:01,800
radio stations were able to make
money until you know alternate

1518
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,220
forms of media came along, is
because they had control over a

1519
01:26:05,220 --> 01:26:11,070
limited resource. The FM band
goes from 88 to 107. You know,

1520
01:26:11,070 --> 01:26:14,760
that's it. And you have to have
some spread in there. So that

1521
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,540
can only be so many radio
stations. That's why there's so

1522
01:26:18,540 --> 01:26:21,660
much more there was so much
money to be made. And when you

1523
01:26:21,660 --> 01:26:25,320
go to digital, it dilutes that
so the radio guys said, no way.

1524
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:28,860
So what's going to happen with
digital television? i No one

1525
01:26:28,860 --> 01:26:32,640
ever talks about why this was so
necessary. Why do we have to all

1526
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,550
switch to digital John C.
Dvorak? You certainly would be

1527
01:26:35,550 --> 01:26:36,540
an expert in this.

1528
01:26:37,230 --> 01:26:41,070
Oh, yeah. You think? Well, the
redeemed the the purported

1529
01:26:41,070 --> 01:26:44,610
reason is that free up some
bandwidth that they can auction

1530
01:26:44,610 --> 01:26:50,130
off so the government can get
more money? Really? Yeah.

1531
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:52,920
This dropping

1532
01:26:53,220 --> 01:26:56,970
drop in the bucket, your through
your eyes paranoid analysis,

1533
01:26:56,970 --> 01:26:59,520
you're going to tell us that the
absolute faculty has something

1534
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,450
to do with with poppy with with
crowd control?

1535
01:27:04,740 --> 01:27:08,340
Well, I don't know. Maybe. I you

1536
01:27:08,340 --> 01:27:10,860
think I mean, what's what's the
purported? I mean, what are you

1537
01:27:10,890 --> 01:27:12,840
will? Why are we making this
switch?

1538
01:27:13,769 --> 01:27:19,169
The only thing I can imagine is
that it can't be. Here's what I

1539
01:27:19,169 --> 01:27:22,049
know, it doesn't make sense. If
you're going to have more,

1540
01:27:22,529 --> 01:27:25,889
basically, there's going to be
more channels available, that

1541
01:27:25,889 --> 01:27:30,659
does not behove the media in any
way. So that's what I know. It

1542
01:27:30,659 --> 01:27:33,869
can't be for can't be for the
media, they can't be liking it.

1543
01:27:34,349 --> 01:27:40,439
So it has to be some government
idea. And I'm not I'm not saying

1544
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,659
I know what it is, but it just
doesn't make sense.

1545
01:27:44,670 --> 01:27:48,270
Well, there, you're right. It's
not bad enough that there's 500

1546
01:27:48,270 --> 01:27:51,930
channels, and you can't find
anything on that's good. But now

1547
01:27:51,930 --> 01:27:54,180
there's gonna be even more
because in fact, the local

1548
01:27:55,050 --> 01:27:58,320
public broadcasting station here
KQED, you know, went on their

1549
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,350
digital thing, they got four
channels, they got, you know,

1550
01:28:01,350 --> 01:28:04,170
the regular channel of public
broadcasting channels, then they

1551
01:28:04,170 --> 01:28:08,310
have a version of a bunch of old
us stuff, and they have a kid's

1552
01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:11,100
thing and they have a world
version and a lifestyle. I mean,

1553
01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:13,650
it's in a lot of these channels
are they did one of them one of

1554
01:28:13,650 --> 01:28:17,220
the stations, I think it's I
don't know, if it's four or five

1555
01:28:17,220 --> 01:28:20,580
or one of it, maybe it's for
two, anyway, they have like

1556
01:28:20,580 --> 01:28:22,740
their they have their main
channel, then they have a

1557
01:28:22,740 --> 01:28:25,920
weather channel. That's, that's,
that's the sub channel and then

1558
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:30,720
they have a channel that just
has cameras around the bay. It's

1559
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,270
like, you know, okay, well,
that's a good use of it. I guess

1560
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:34,530
I could do that in the internet.

1561
01:28:34,529 --> 01:28:36,959
So the other the other end of
the John is that they free up

1562
01:28:36,959 --> 01:28:40,769
the so called whitespace, which
now can be turned into some kind

1563
01:28:40,769 --> 01:28:45,959
of super Wi Fi maybe, you know,
that's the maybe that's the plan

1564
01:28:45,959 --> 01:28:48,659
there as we turn that into the
super Wi Fi, the all

1565
01:28:48,659 --> 01:28:52,859
encompassing network, ie
internet version two, which of

1566
01:28:52,859 --> 01:28:56,429
course is not maybe not quite as
open and uncontrolled as what we

1567
01:28:56,429 --> 01:29:00,539
have today. It's a long term
project but hey, it's possible.

1568
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,130
Digital is also makes it a
little easier, I think to

1569
01:29:05,130 --> 01:29:10,680
control content with with DRM,
which flags, DRM and things like

1570
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,200
that tracking know who's
watching what, and that can be

1571
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,890
possible. Okay, it's from an
Obama speech that he gave on

1572
01:29:16,890 --> 01:29:20,280
July 2, the quote from the
speech, we cannot continue to

1573
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,670
rely on our military in order to
achieve the national security

1574
01:29:23,670 --> 01:29:27,570
objectives that we've set. We've
got to have a civilian national

1575
01:29:27,570 --> 01:29:32,040
security force that's just as
powerful just as strong, just as

1576
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:36,300
well funded. People of all ages,
stations and skills will be

1577
01:29:36,300 --> 01:29:37,590
asked to serve

1578
01:29:42,060 --> 01:29:46,530
Yeah, and nobody gets to
nobody's like, outraged nobody's

1579
01:29:46,530 --> 01:29:49,680
outraged whereas McCain, he's
running against this guy. You

1580
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,380
know, there's another example of
why this election was probably

1581
01:29:52,380 --> 01:29:56,220
rigged with him not you know,
there's no spring in just make

1582
01:29:56,220 --> 01:29:58,440
do everything we can to lose and
oh, by the way, don't bring up

1583
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:01,290
anything like that. That might
get you some yours McCain bought

1584
01:30:01,290 --> 01:30:04,680
stuff like that up and also had
voted against the bail out he'd

1585
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,240
be present he'd be the guy
elected.

1586
01:30:07,109 --> 01:30:10,289
Meanwhile, in the National
Enquirer there are some fuzzy

1587
01:30:10,289 --> 01:30:14,699
yet very obvious pictures of
Cindy McCain making out with

1588
01:30:14,699 --> 01:30:16,829
some other guy clearly younger

1589
01:30:24,090 --> 01:30:25,710
that was in the Enquirer. Yeah,

1590
01:30:26,670 --> 01:30:29,160
I got to start buying this
magazine man that's good but

1591
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:29,310
some

1592
01:30:30,090 --> 01:30:32,490
other ones are broke too John
Edwards thing nobody was going

1593
01:30:32,490 --> 01:30:34,830
to touch it's another thing that
media wasn't going to touch this

1594
01:30:34,830 --> 01:30:37,560
guy's having babies while
running for president with with

1595
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:41,340
strange women who are crackpots.
And nobody's going to cover it

1596
01:30:41,340 --> 01:30:44,910
because well, you know, we
couldn't do it. Meanwhile, the

1597
01:30:44,910 --> 01:30:47,340
Enquirer puts a few private
detectives on the case and they

1598
01:30:47,340 --> 01:30:49,260
get pictures of him with the
baby.

1599
01:30:49,500 --> 01:30:52,500
We talked about this last week
right after the show Barney

1600
01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:56,730
Frank. I'm sure you've seen this
guy. He was one of the tea was

1601
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:01,080
on the thing is the Chairman of
the Finance Committee or

1602
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,840
whatever it was. He was banking,
the Banking Committee, right?

1603
01:31:03,930 --> 01:31:09,420
He's the guy that the big heavy
fat guy is gonna read it. And he

1604
01:31:09,420 --> 01:31:12,120
got into a big fight with
O'Reilly on Fox, which was

1605
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,390
pretty funny. So this guy has
been in he's a congressman

1606
01:31:15,390 --> 01:31:20,040
right? Yeah, yeah. So he's been
in in government for almost

1607
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:24,480
tambor for almost three decades
at least. But you know, he in

1608
01:31:24,480 --> 01:31:29,910
the in the 80s. And he was he
had male prostitutes you know,

1609
01:31:29,910 --> 01:31:35,880
in public buildings blowing him
he had a prostitution ring was

1610
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:42,180
being run out of his apartment
in in the beltway area. You

1611
01:31:42,180 --> 01:31:46,650
know, it's like, the guy's
totally black mailable for for

1612
01:31:46,650 --> 01:31:48,240
his his regime.

1613
01:31:48,930 --> 01:31:51,180
Like he's hiding anything. And
he's no, he's not

1614
01:31:51,180 --> 01:31:54,690
hiding it. There was all kinds
of inquiries ball. Yeah, thank

1615
01:31:54,690 --> 01:31:57,900
you. That's the I mean, nothing
against gay sex, and nothing

1616
01:31:57,900 --> 01:32:01,230
against prostitutes. But you
know, come on. I mean, you can't

1617
01:32:01,260 --> 01:32:03,540
these are the things that make
you black mailable when you're

1618
01:32:03,540 --> 01:32:08,610
in a fucked up shit and weird
circles, you know, and no one

1619
01:32:08,610 --> 01:32:11,550
ever brings that up. No one ever
says, Oh, by the way, guys, kind

1620
01:32:11,550 --> 01:32:15,720
of interesting. It's worth a
little background human interest

1621
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:16,620
story on him.

1622
01:32:19,229 --> 01:32:21,599
Well, maybe the Enquirer you
know, the problem with these

1623
01:32:21,599 --> 01:32:25,109
papers is that the only delve
into politics once in a while to

1624
01:32:25,109 --> 01:32:26,909
test the waters to see if
they're gonna get any more

1625
01:32:26,909 --> 01:32:31,829
newsstand sales, because that's
a newsstand sales. Vehicle. It's

1626
01:32:31,859 --> 01:32:34,829
very European in that regard. A
lot of people don't realise that

1627
01:32:34,829 --> 01:32:37,859
most magazines in Europe are
sold at the newsstands, not by

1628
01:32:37,859 --> 01:32:38,549
subscription.

1629
01:32:38,700 --> 01:32:41,400
And a lot of it a lot of the
headlines are based on that, you

1630
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,590
know, if it bleeds, it leads,
but man, if you can get a

1631
01:32:43,620 --> 01:32:48,390
politician having weird sex in,
in like the garage or somewhere

1632
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:50,640
else. I mean, that's the stuff
people love.

1633
01:32:51,660 --> 01:32:54,720
And it seems to me that, you
know, if the National Enquirer

1634
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,000
in particular, since they do
have the resources, and they're

1635
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,900
very aggressive about pursuing
stories, would do a little more

1636
01:33:00,900 --> 01:33:02,940
politically, and maybe it's a
good sign that they're going

1637
01:33:02,940 --> 01:33:08,250
into this Oprah versus Michelle.
thing? Yes. They maybe should

1638
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:13,170
bump around the net, the regular
media is not covering this as

1639
01:33:13,170 --> 01:33:15,840
proven by the John Edwards
thing. And it oh, by the way,

1640
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,840
when that finally broke in the
National Enquirer, you should

1641
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:22,320
have heard all the apologists on
all these talk shows on TV, you

1642
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:26,400
know, representing the real
media, well, you know, they pay

1643
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,790
for that they, you know, we
could read about it, and we

1644
01:33:29,790 --> 01:33:32,430
didn't know what to do about it.
And we decided to cover you

1645
01:33:32,430 --> 01:33:35,460
know, Sarah Palin is, you know,
sick kid.

1646
01:33:36,870 --> 01:33:39,870
Yeah, yeah. Now, you're so
right. And by the way, it would

1647
01:33:40,410 --> 01:33:41,010
go ahead.

1648
01:33:41,310 --> 01:33:45,720
I'm just saying if the National
Enquirer would just step up, and

1649
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:49,320
you know, because they do mostly
celebrity gossip, they step it

1650
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,110
up a notch and, you know, just
at least, you know, at least

1651
01:33:52,110 --> 01:33:55,170
once an issue bust into
something, I think they'd be

1652
01:33:55,170 --> 01:33:57,330
they would be kind of
interesting to see what would

1653
01:33:57,330 --> 01:33:57,870
come of it?

1654
01:33:58,620 --> 01:34:02,160
Well, it's clear that the, the
tabloids are going to do it. And

1655
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,710
that's what as I said, that's
always a good moment to wrap up,

1656
01:34:04,710 --> 01:34:06,690
actually, because that's kind of
how I started the show by

1657
01:34:06,690 --> 01:34:10,800
saying, I like this. I like the
fact that the this cult of

1658
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:15,300
personality is now going into
perhaps the real true print

1659
01:34:15,300 --> 01:34:19,980
media. And, and you know what,
it's okay to buy these things

1660
01:34:19,980 --> 01:34:22,920
because they're entertaining as
well. The one thing they really

1661
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:27,990
do well, is they go out of their
way to get the perfect picture

1662
01:34:28,170 --> 01:34:31,320
for the headline, you know,
Michelle Obama looks like she

1663
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,710
has, you know, the almost good
draw horns out of her forehead,

1664
01:34:34,710 --> 01:34:38,730
you know, they got on a really,
really mean looking pose. And

1665
01:34:38,730 --> 01:34:41,190
there's a lot of fluff you just
got to pass over the fluff the

1666
01:34:41,220 --> 01:34:44,070
the coca Paul Abdul's nose,
which by the way, looks pretty

1667
01:34:44,070 --> 01:34:48,750
true. You know, there's a lot of
stuff that is just lame, but

1668
01:34:48,750 --> 01:34:52,680
then you get to the, the Obama
and, or the Michelle Obama and

1669
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:56,220
Oprah pictures and it's funny. I
mean, you have to laugh out loud

1670
01:34:56,220 --> 01:34:59,520
when you see it. And it's got
Greg Norman kissing Chris

1671
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,520
Everett and you sticking his
tongue out, like a fucking

1672
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,040
lizard that's humorous isn't
really human.

1673
01:35:05,310 --> 01:35:07,230
That's where the that's where
their bread and butter is.

1674
01:35:08,220 --> 01:35:11,820
It's a great picture. He's like
going to French kisser but they

1675
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:16,470
they catch you in like mouth
half open tongue just coming out

1676
01:35:16,470 --> 01:35:22,830
and looks really sleazy My
goodness. Yeah, well, there you

1677
01:35:22,830 --> 01:35:28,080
go. We come full circle. We I
guess we just have to keep our

1678
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,570
eye on alternative media.

1679
01:35:31,229 --> 01:35:35,939
Yeah. Including including blogs
and whatever. Yeah. All right.

1680
01:35:36,059 --> 01:35:40,709
Yep. I'm rolling the rolling
theme music, John. All right, so

1681
01:35:41,129 --> 01:35:44,459
maybe not next weekend at the
latest Monday. And but it'll be

1682
01:35:44,459 --> 01:35:46,349
early Monday because we're gonna
both be in Europe or you're

1683
01:35:46,349 --> 01:35:48,449
gonna be back in San Francisco,
then I'll be back in San

1684
01:35:48,449 --> 01:35:50,759
Francisco. So when do you come
back, you come back Monday or

1685
01:35:50,759 --> 01:35:51,239
Sunday, I

1686
01:35:51,239 --> 01:35:52,049
come back Monday.

1687
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,790
Early. Now it can't be early.
It'll be afternoon. So it won't

1688
01:35:56,820 --> 01:35:59,520
it will be too late. Maybe if
you're gonna get back until

1689
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,170
three in the afternoon. It's
going to be

1690
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:05,220
I have to do I'll have to stay
up at night. Well, I'll stay up

1691
01:36:05,220 --> 01:36:08,310
for I try to do some I'll bring
gear with me. And I'll try to do

1692
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:11,160
the show when we get it won't
sound as good as it does with

1693
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,520
this little system here. But
it'll be I think we can manage

1694
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:15,030
something.

1695
01:36:15,419 --> 01:36:18,509
Well, if you only if only you
use the Mac, I can set you up

1696
01:36:18,509 --> 01:36:19,499
with a really good setup.

1697
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:23,790
I like to zoom to the machine I
carry on the road is two pounds.

1698
01:36:25,290 --> 01:36:28,770
You know, it's two pounds. And
it's like I can't find anything

1699
01:36:28,770 --> 01:36:30,450
that says light. And when you
travel, especially

1700
01:36:30,450 --> 01:36:32,970
internationally, everything is
weighed, they weigh everything.

1701
01:36:33,030 --> 01:36:37,140
So I travel light. So no, not
gonna happen.

1702
01:36:38,250 --> 01:36:41,220
Not even with an air book, or a
MacBook Air or whatever now

1703
01:36:41,459 --> 01:36:43,259
thinks uses don't have enough
connectivity.

1704
01:36:43,290 --> 01:36:46,590
I agree. All right, John, good
talk good talking to you as

1705
01:36:46,590 --> 01:36:52,650
always. And coming to you from
the affluent suburb of Surrey in

1706
01:36:52,650 --> 01:36:54,240
the United Kingdom. I'm Adam
curry,

1707
01:36:54,750 --> 01:36:57,000
and I'm up here in northern
Silicon Valley in Northern

1708
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,650
California. I'm John C. Dvorak

1709
01:36:58,649 --> 01:37:01,799
and we will talk to you again in
about seven or eight days right

1710
01:37:01,799 --> 01:37:02,999
here on no agenda.