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are so close yet so far away
it's time once again for no

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agenda coming to you this week
from Gitmo nation West in two

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locations overlooking the
Financial District and the Bay

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it is the curry condo where I'm
coming from. My name is Adam

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curry.

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And I'm up here on the other
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with my binoculars.

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Let me wave Hey, John.

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Fall out the window. i If only

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I had a window to fall out of
that's the only thing wrong with

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Anyway, I'm over here in
Northern Silicon Valley. So what

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you don't have a window? Is it
your is it? Like, there's no

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light coming in? No,

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no, no, I have 180 degree floor
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the only window you can really
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really open to get fresh air.
I'm on the 24th floor by the

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way. And one is in the bedroom,
which is nice. And then here,

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there's only one kind of like
that, you know, rectangular

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window that that just opens up
from the bottom and gives you

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some fresh air. That's the only
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no real access to atmosphere, if
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once you drop it, you know,
because you're in California,

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here we drop in pennies out the
window and hidden people

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that was and this is a one
bedroom, the two bedrooms have a

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balcony. That's really what I
want. But you know, who knew who

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needs a two bedroom place when
I'm only here? You know, once in

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a while.

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I think you should lease the
place out when you're not there

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to hookers?

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Who says I'm not doing that? Oh.
It is the perfect place for in

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calls. Oh, my goodness. All
right, John loads. We haven't

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seen your net yet. Even though
I've been in in town for a

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couple days. You've been in
meetings all day.

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Yeah, most of most of the most
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getting some cool stuff cranking
next week, less meetings more

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doing some. I'm excited about
that. But we are having dinner

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tonight, which is quite well
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glad we didn't have dinner last
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nothing to talk about.

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Ya know, that? Well, we wouldn't
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right, because we had to watch
the debate. Yes, we

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did. Yes, we did. You want to
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that where you want to go? Right
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Well, I don't know. Why not. I
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people, you know, there's a guy,
it's a lot of suggestions saying

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that we should be streaming our
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please, which

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just every once in a while, you
could say something I think you

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have to be but you're probably
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watching mode. I watched the
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see the difference in the
presentation because they did

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press present. Everybody's
slightly different than the main

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networks had. The guy's pretty
much the same. But they were you

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know, blocked in by the big
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Hold on a second. But it was a
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wasn't like everyone had their
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switching. It was it was one

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there was no there was obviously
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switching but not camera shots.
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presume? I think the

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shots weren't. But there was a
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think people could flip between
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was watching simultaneous. I
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thing about it. By the way. Is
that the sound delay?

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Yeah, that no delays, I noticed
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around, it would be one or two
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And they were all different.
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two that were synced up at all,
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I thought about that for a
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actually is kind of logical,
because if they're all switching

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if the if at all getting these
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know, from multiple cameras, and
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don't know, if they're getting
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make signal. But that's all
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trucks, their own processes, you
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little bit differently. And
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wanted to have a little delay on
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the but anyway, they're pretty
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C span C span had, essentially
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a side by side split screen. And
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Oh, that's nice, because then
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you can see you can see the
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the amount of times Obama said
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not true, John, that's not true.
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did is I stuck with one channel,
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sure why but I always feel like
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don't know. I just I will. I'm
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what I did is I paid attention
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attention to what people were
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cases presumed to be code.

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checked all the different
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watching it in HD on CNN.
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because just ask your question.
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don't have an HD screen here.
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was wearing? Was that a flag
because I couldn't tell didn't

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look like an American flag. It
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It was was illegible on it was a
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in anyway they were in high def
what was interesting was the it

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was distracting. And in fact it
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who watch this thing on CNN
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same effect, I had actually had
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because they had a graph running
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lot of real estate. They had a
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the screen that showed a real
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you could see who was like and
who's head of like a blue line

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and a red line, one of those
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and there's a blue line, a red
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independents. And it was the
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movement of that. Yeah, and

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the blue line and the red line.
They just, you know, wouldn't

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bow Obama spoke that blue line
went way up, when because both

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they flipped and that red line
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It was unbelievably ridiculous.
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thing would cut their beak, some
confluence, and it would all

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become one line. And that was
interesting. But Obama achieved

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that more than McCain did.
Unless except when McCain was

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doll. So and or when Mick Latham
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whenever time delay or spoke did
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hilarious. You

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know, he was pretty interesting,
because first of all, he did

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something which I thought, you
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to this. But I really do not
like when you have a public

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performance of any kind. Let's
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performance, where you start off
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to shut up. No applauding No
laughing No, no, no applause No,

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no, no nothing. And that's,
that's like, ah, and you know,

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and so it really made it
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John McCain actually was a lot
looser than Obama made, you

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know, he's very, he's very
comfortable when he gets kind of

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into his jokey mode, which I
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everything fell flat, because
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or to laugh or to do anything.

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Well, I, I'm in a disagreement
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problem is, is that when you
don't try to shut this audience

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up, you end up with a loaded
audience. Because so dealing

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with one one side or the other
will stuffed the audience with a

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bunch of shit.

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Why do it? Why do it at the
University at all? Why not just

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sit in the studio and have it a
month be a much more controlled

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environment? I mean, that's
useless. even see the audience,

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it was so dark. Well, it's
useless now.

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They did laugh once in a while
the audience wasn't dead silent

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Here's here's the here's the one
thing that really that my ears

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pricked up when I heard Jim say,
I wrote it down here. So how are

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you? How is your policies going
effect going to affect the

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country? Or the way you? Oops,
are you dialling out?

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No, that was by kick the
keyboard.

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He talked about the candidates
ruling the country. And I was

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like, you don't rule the country
as President to you? He said

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that he said, he said rule the
country. How was it going to go?

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He said, Yeah, when

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I have this on tape, I have to
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this was right after McCain was
talking about the 45 nuclear

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nuclear plants. And then I wrote
down affect the way you rule the

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country, so I'm not quite sure
what he was talking about. But

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he asked the question, how will
this affect the way you rule the

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country? And I was like, there's
not a king. He's not royalty.

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It's like you govern the country
or you leave the country or, you

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know, your your main actor, I
don't know. But it's it's not

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rule. I have to go back and said
if he said that, that's That's

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embarrassing.

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I thought Yeah. Well, so I mean,
that's, you know, that's

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what I mean. I'm sure that you
know, no offence to the

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Democrats out there, but I'm
sure they'd like to have a king

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and McCain, could he be any more
inaccurate and outrageous, the

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way he talked about whenever
Israel came up, you know, the

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Holocaust, you know, Medina jots
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guy's name is not on the agenda
jawed it's on Medina jawed. You

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know, this guy wants to
obliterate the stinking corpse

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of Israel. Now, look. I already
believe that the translation of

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that famous line of you know, we
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already think that was quite an
exaggeration. I think there was

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some nuance there that was
probably purposely translated

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incorrectly. But he certainly
never you know, Ahmadinejad net

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certainly never spoke of, you
know, the stinking rotting

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corpse of Israel. I thought that
was pretty inflammatory. I was

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like, Man, that's

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uh, you know, looking at the
graph, let us go over what let

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me go over the things that I
noticed that based on the graph,

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I only took notes but based on
that said, they did get one I

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was looking for some quotes,
talking about language. I got

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beauty from Obama, which has to
go into the into the flood but

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one of those flood websites. He
says the following word for word

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700 billion is potentially a lot
of money.

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Potential only potentially

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is 700 billion isn't potentially
a lot of money. It's a lot

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of money. There was there were a
couple of real zingers some

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really McCain man he kept coming
so first of all everyone's

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saying this Wall Street to Main
Street Wall Street to Main

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Street can we shut up already
Main Street makes me think of

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Disneyland and the Main Street
Electrical Parade.

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One of the commentators on one
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the you know, one of the

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I watched none of them I hate
those I didn't,

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all of them and so the one of
the post mortems somebody

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mentioned that McCain never won
said middle class.

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Yeah, I can't recall him saying
middle class. Now he was talking

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about Main Street and of course,
Miss Congeniality, that's my

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favourite that he's doing. He's
using whites twice. Yeah, I'm

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Miss Congeniality. No, you're
ugly. That's why he got Sarah

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Palin dude to balance out the
ugliness factor.

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Well, he also did one thing I
wish I go back and I'm sure

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it'll be on YouTube. He got a
there's one thing where he gave

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a long winded response does
became a shaggy dog story. Then

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he kind of wandered off the
topic and then he tried to bring

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it back. It was a complete
botch. I don't I don't remember

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what that I'm watching. But what
the hell is he doing? Yeah. So

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okay, here's the here's the deal
with the up and down graph. What

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In other words, what got the
most effect? And then the main

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thing by the way, only Obama
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thing. He only did and he only
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Almost did it twice. But the
main thing here's a couple of

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things. That I know isn't it
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in terms of the independents,
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earmarks get got nothing and he
find when he started talking

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about corruption, though the
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his numbers. Corruption really
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he taught and then when he
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double dividend for kids that
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started talking about education,
which he didn't do much of when

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he talked about nuke nuking
anybody down down. Yeah, of

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course, we talked about getting
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it was really weird DC he talked
about nuking and then things

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start diving. And then he
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nuclear power. And he says, Oh,
these are nuclear power and they

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start going down. But it'll give
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and then it went back down
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nuke. Oh, that's funny. When he
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down when he used the word
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911 and fix it and I can't
remember what this was about it

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went on up Yeah. And when he
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went up and which means that
people were concerned about that

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yeah, but every single time he
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down Yeah, believe that and
here's the thing that got me and

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I've talked about this before is
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talk radio guys, they say
especially Rush Limbaugh who

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this is one of his litanies, he
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Democrats always have a negative
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They never say something
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that's their problem. We always
have a positive message in the

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Republican Party. I didn't see
it in this debate. And let's go

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over Obama's graphs when he
interrupted and attacked McCain

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the few times he did he you know
he went down down Yeah, down

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instantly

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didn't know what he did say
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very interesting. He would start
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Well John is out you're
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a an immediate advertisement 20
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but you can't actually say
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you know, because you're if
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absolutely right. There's no you
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point of discussion. That's the
end of it right? Yeah, no, I

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thought it was crazy. I thought
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anyway back to his ups. Here's
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that's damn near spiked 200% He
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I wanted to guess go ahead go
ahead. Go ahead. What is it

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like give away energy
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thing about energy independence
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into we got to have more
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into diesel BIOS a very bright
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message message and actually
when when McCain mentioned this

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stuff he got a boost to but the
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how we're the graphs whenever
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veterans a lot very purposely
nothing nothing didn't spike at

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No interest no that's nothing
but this was served as energy

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independence and Carsten spike
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have two up arrows and the word
Wow Okay, now the other ones

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here's the other ones. He got a
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one. But he got an up arrow on
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I don't even know what this
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about health care. If the way he
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he got a huge up arrow when he
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in education. Education gets big
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How about the fight I had
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financial crisis or

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stuff did nothing right. worse

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for the earmark DOM was such
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corruption got some numbers, but
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I love it where McCain is going
to fire the SEC chairman. I

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don't think he actually has that
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So ruler,

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I got through.

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So here's another here's McCain
or I'm sorry, Obama kind of get

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flatlined on health care, but
when he changed from health care

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to r&d, boom, boom. r&d is
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started talking about vet care
because he was giving anyone to

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slam McCain because I think
McCain voted you know against

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some veterans thing. Yeah. And
he starts shows he started

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talking about vet care it
actually went down nobody cares

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about the veterans in this
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well but but the tradition by
the way, but you need them right

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you need them to win an
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Okay guys some more. This is the
last couple when he mentioned al

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Qaeda and going after him bald
nothing zip flatlined. Image

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torture was took Him up again,
he brought up in torture a

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little bit up. No more attack
every time he tack McCain down

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and and here's the one that get
the end, they had a Truven went

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off against each other McCain
got nowhere. But here's the one

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that got Obama big spike, again,
relating back to what Rush

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Limbaugh says, Obama started
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and how we can you know, get our
reputation back in Europe, and

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we are the greatest country, you
know, he started with this

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positive message. We're this
great country, and we shouldn't

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be respected more, and we have
pride and blah, blah, blah,

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boom, big numbers.

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Unbelievable. So, so I was just
listening to language, as I said

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earlier, and what is the what's
it called? When you when you

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take a phrase when you say like,
this isn't the beginning of the

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end? It's the end of the
beginning that has a has a

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definition a term what is that
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I'm sure I should have just
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So when you when you construct
the sentence where you switch

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things around so you'll say this
isn't the beginning of the end?

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It's the end of the beginning.
Yeah, I don't know what that's

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called had does a name because
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I'm noticing

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Yes. I don't know what the point
of that. Oh, here's one more

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note I took on the back. I gotta
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Obama and it's not about the
numbers. It's some Obama said I

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thought was peculiar. Obama
said, By the way, McCain also

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got an up arrow when he started
bitching about the pipeline in

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Russia. Obama's settings goes on
and on and he says isolationism

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doesn't work. We can't go on and
I you know, because McCain's

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pushing the idea of just cutting
off Iran, isolating them, you

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know, embargoes and whatever.
And Obama came out and said,

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isolate doesn't work. We should
stop all these embargoes right

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now. And then he named all the
countries and curiously left off

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Cuba, knowing it would piss off
everybody threw it in. I thought

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it was chicken shit. Yeah,

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I learned a couple things I
learned from our host, Jim that

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only one of the one of them can
be president. One of you will be

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president. So there's no
independents apparently running.

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I mean, I know it doesn't matter
because they they never get

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invited to the debates. But I
just thought it was kind of

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crude to just say that. And he
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in the beginning, it was like,
address, Mr. Obama addressed me

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on trying to get some fireworks
going, you know, trying to

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trying to get that which I think
was part of the whole make the

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audience Shut up. Because what I
was also looking for was the

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soundbite. You know, what are
the sound bites and from a

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general showbusiness
perspective, this was just

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boring, John, it was a really
boring show. It was not.

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There was no, there was no
moment where where somebody you

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say was saying one? In fact, I
do. I don't know. Who do you

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think won the debate? I would.

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I would say Obama by a hair.

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I would agree with you. 100%. I
think he won by hair. But he

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did. But it was a draw for all
practical purposes. What they

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agreed

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on everything. They agreed on
everything there was McCain any

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good. And by the way, when I
thought well, Obama was actually

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a little smoother at the
beginning. McCain was, besides

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Obama making weird, you know, he
talks a little like John Kerry

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is a little long winded. Also
McCain McCain was clearing his

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throat constantly like a nervous
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what was interesting also is
Obama started out looking right

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into the camera. When he was
answering his questions. He was

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so aware. And he then in fact,
throughout the entire debate, he

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looked into the camera, like
must have been twice as much if

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not more than McCain. I thought
that was interesting to notice.

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Because then you know, when you
look into that camera, you

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really are talking to someone
sitting at home, you know that

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yeah, it just works. You know,
it's it's media training. 101

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And I had a couple of things
that are interesting to note

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that McCain is so sure that the
French will come and support us

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in in Iran. I would beg to
differ. They actually speak

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French in Iran. You know, it may
not be that simple, Johnny Boy.

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Obama kept saying when I'm
President of the United States,

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I thought that was, you know,
well done. McCain didn't say

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that once. You know, which is,
you know, that's that's really

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that's mind control. You know,
it's really important to say

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that stuff when I'm,

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when I hear somebody say that
either one of them I find it

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totally offensive.

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Well, that's not that I don't
find it offensive. But I think

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it's interesting that he's
saying that and I think most

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people at home, don't find it
offensive, but they just pass it

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over.

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I would like to do a poll on
that from our listeners. Yeah.

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our listeners are not your
typical American listeners. I

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don't think John, they're the
ones that are switched on. We

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need the sleeping people. And I
learned something very important

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that the average height of the
South Korean is three inches

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taller than the North Koreans.
Yeah. They really are

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suppressing those people, aren't
they? Are they putting the

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brakes on their head or
something? That was hilarious.

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Like talking about tall Obama
appears to be right. rather

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tall. Yeah, he is. He does not
tell us you know, we know.

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I think he's, he's up. He's up
around six feet has to be

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No, no, he's over six feet.
Looks like he's about six to six

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degrees, like about as

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tall as I am. Probably. And at
the end there on CNBC, they left

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his mic open. I don't know if
you heard that. But he you know,

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so Michelle comes up. First of
all, they were congratulating

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each other, you know, like,
almost like WWF you know, like,

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Hey, that was a good match, man.
Yeah, you really threw me into

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that cage. Good. Okay, great.
John. Yeah. Great Bama fan?

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Yeah, it was like the hell was
that?

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Oh, I didn't know this. Yeah,
cuz I didn't need the mic on

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where I was. Well, yeah, no,
they

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had the mic open. In fact,
Michelle Oh, came up on stage.

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And you heard Obama go, oh, how
do we do? How do we do? Which is

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exactly what you know, it's what
what what my wife says to me, or

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what I say to her after a TV
show, you know, and, and I'll

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say, how do we do Han Han? How
did it look? You know? How was

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it? How was the show? The Big
Show? So anyway, and not a

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single word about the, the, the,
you know, the temporary

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cancellation of the debate or
anything like that it wasn't,

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you know, not a single thing.
Not a single thing.

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I think that was somebody
pointed out one of the guys

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wait, there was something they
were supposed to pound home.

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Dammit. I can't remember this,
because I didn't take a note on

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it. But one of the guys and one
of the commentators in the post

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mortems said that and it was one
of the it was one of the I think

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was Fred Barnes on Fox. One of
those guys they said that McCain

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was supposed to go in some
direction on this economy thing

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to because of something Obama
did and he was supposed to use

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it as a thematic thing. And he
didn't do it and they think it

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was a complete botch was, of
course Obama was supposed to

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equate McCain more with Bush.

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Yeah, he definitely tried to, to
make it sound like this was just

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a continuation of the past eight
years.

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You know, the thing that I think
if we boil it down, we go back

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to what we said earlier, it was
a boring debate that probably

444
00:23:12,540 --> 00:23:15,750
had a huge audience. Because
everyone to see these two guys

445
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:19,320
go at it. I think it's gonna be
up to Palin.

446
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:21,060
Oh, my God.

447
00:23:22,740 --> 00:23:25,620
It's gonna be a problem because
she has not performed well ever

448
00:23:25,620 --> 00:23:28,440
since they started coaching her.
I think that you know, instead

449
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,320
of coaching her to be natural,
they've coached her into being a

450
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,320
robot. And I'm totally convinced
and I wrote this in an essay

451
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,590
that's on the divorce
iq.org/blogs So you can look it

452
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:40,890
up. It's called, you know, as
McCain surrounded by idiots, and

453
00:23:40,890 --> 00:23:43,500
it has to do with the fact that
he stiffed Johnny or Johnny

454
00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:46,740
Carson, he stiffed David
Letterman, and Letterman within

455
00:23:46,770 --> 00:23:49,920
laced into him. You know that
that night and the night after?

456
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,530
Because it was bullshit, because
he said they had to fly back to

457
00:23:52,530 --> 00:23:55,830
Washington. So I cancelled the
show with one totally, totally.

458
00:23:55,860 --> 00:23:58,380
And then he didn't even go he
went over to Katie Couric and

459
00:23:58,380 --> 00:24:00,990
spent the night in New York and
Steny went to next morning so it

460
00:24:00,990 --> 00:24:03,720
was all bull. And then
meanwhile, one of his dumb

461
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,230
spokespersons Come on say well,
we didn't think it was right to

462
00:24:07,230 --> 00:24:10,740
do a comedy show Yeah, with all
this you know, going on right.

463
00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:11,280
Meanwhile,

464
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,850
when when when Katrina hit,
McCain was sitting there with

465
00:24:14,850 --> 00:24:17,940
Bush with his birthday cake
laughing and having fun.

466
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:21,360
The point is, is that you know
that bowl, this was stupid

467
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:28,170
29 point 5 million viewers. It's
not bad, but let me see if they

468
00:24:28,170 --> 00:24:31,080
compare it to anything if
there's a comparison to because

469
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,690
they thought it was going to be
as big as the Carter Reagan

470
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,700
debate. And there you go again,
why he made

471
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,940
that was the line that got
Reagan elected everyone thinks,

472
00:24:42,210 --> 00:24:46,620
Oh, I know. I don't remember
that. I'm not that old John

473
00:24:46,650 --> 00:24:51,960
speaking of old I am so tired.
And I see this all over the

474
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:58,080
place on CNBC. Was it what's the
guy mark, but the kind of chubby

475
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,050
guy who's like their main their
main anchor? For Squawk Box

476
00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:04,770
bars, yeah, no, wait a bit. I'm
sorry. It wasn't. It was no it

477
00:25:04,770 --> 00:25:06,840
was Keith Olbermann, he he
plugged

478
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,580
into Ober is not on CNN.

479
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,020
I know. I know. He's an MSNBC,
he talks to the girl, the woman

480
00:25:13,020 --> 00:25:17,430
who she has like really thick
horn rimmed glasses. And she's

481
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:20,790
from I want to say she's from
like, a real serious

482
00:25:20,790 --> 00:25:23,670
publication, maybe Wall Street
Journal, maybe New York Times, I

483
00:25:23,670 --> 00:25:26,700
can't think of her name right
now. You're not helping us. But

484
00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:30,390
she and I know. But she really
and I see this all the time

485
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:34,710
about John McCain's age, and
it's really starting to piss me

486
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:35,070
off.

487
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:36,450
It's ageism, it well,

488
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,470
it's it's to me it is I'm not
quite sure why maybe because I

489
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:42,930
had you know, my friends, my
wife, and you know, they're all

490
00:25:42,930 --> 00:25:49,050
60. Maybe because of that, but
to me, it's, it's it's almost

491
00:25:49,050 --> 00:25:52,860
like, you know, race
discrimination based on skin

492
00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:56,010
colour. It's like, what the fuck
is that about? It's really

493
00:25:56,010 --> 00:25:56,820
angering me.

494
00:25:57,270 --> 00:25:59,760
Yeah, well, I think it's working
a lot of people. But I have to

495
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,310
say one of the pollsters, I
think, is the guy who works for

496
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:05,820
Fox, because the name is Lutz.
And he was one of the better

497
00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:08,520
guys. And in terms he does,
right audience response stuff,

498
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:15,270
too. He says that the that the,
at least now, generally

499
00:26:15,270 --> 00:26:18,570
speaking, the older voters who
come out in droves, by the way,

500
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,710
compared to younger voters, the
older voters are not skewing

501
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:26,580
necessarily toward McCain,
although they made as the

502
00:26:26,580 --> 00:26:29,220
election approaches, because I
think what'll happen is that

503
00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:32,040
this ageism thing will keep
coming up. Because these guys,

504
00:26:32,370 --> 00:26:35,940
you know, I mean, I find it
weirdly offensive, because the

505
00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:38,460
Democrats are the ones who are
wanting, you know, equal pay for

506
00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:40,590
equal work, and they're against
sexism, and they're against

507
00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:43,500
racism, and they're against
this. But what's, why are they

508
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:45,660
all of a sudden, all all ages,

509
00:26:45,929 --> 00:26:50,129
and in a country where you
cannot conduct a job interview

510
00:26:50,129 --> 00:26:53,339
and ask anyone their age, you
cannot even say When did you

511
00:26:53,339 --> 00:26:56,909
graduate college? Because then
from that you could deduct

512
00:26:56,909 --> 00:27:00,029
someone's age, if you don't hire
that person, they can sue you

513
00:27:00,029 --> 00:27:04,199
successfully in court for age
discrimination. Exactly. I mean,

514
00:27:04,199 --> 00:27:07,589
how is this possible? And from
really smart, I would presume

515
00:27:07,589 --> 00:27:10,559
intelligent people, it's just,
I'm just not glossing over that

516
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:14,129
really easy. And I'm not that
old, but I don't think 44 And

517
00:27:14,129 --> 00:27:19,229
I'm fueled. It's like, that's
not okay. It's just not okay.

518
00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:22,619
Right. And I think it's gonna
continue because they that they

519
00:27:22,619 --> 00:27:26,189
don't have really have any, you
know, they don't know, I don't

520
00:27:26,189 --> 00:27:28,319
think they're very creative and
how they go about their

521
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:30,479
campaigning. That's why I think
they keep losing these

522
00:27:30,479 --> 00:27:34,259
elections. And I, you know, this
thing, even though Obama keeps

523
00:27:34,259 --> 00:27:38,009
putting himself into the lead,
you know, the whole mechanism of

524
00:27:38,009 --> 00:27:41,519
the Democrat party seems to keep
you know, making it more even

525
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:45,299
and then that's one of the
things they do. And they have

526
00:27:45,299 --> 00:27:48,029
learned something from this from
what happened on this debate.

527
00:27:48,270 --> 00:27:50,610
And I'm quite pleased, though,
with the with this financial

528
00:27:50,610 --> 00:27:54,600
crisis, the the rescue plan,
formerly known as the bailout

529
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,820
plan, is that Dr. Ron Paul is
getting massive airtime on every

530
00:27:59,820 --> 00:28:03,180
single station with huge amounts
of respect, because of course,

531
00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:06,420
he's been predicting this for
years. And by the way, another

532
00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:08,790
guy who's in his 70s, I might
point out, although you never

533
00:28:08,790 --> 00:28:12,480
hear anyone accusing him of
being an old fart, you call him

534
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,950
a nutter and a kook. But

535
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,010
I never said he was another I
call him a cougar.

536
00:28:18,270 --> 00:28:21,810
But it's fantastic to see how
much traction he's getting in

537
00:28:21,810 --> 00:28:25,680
his message. I'm really pleased
about that. And and what blew me

538
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,910
away. And I can only only think
that this thing is that it's a

539
00:28:29,910 --> 00:28:33,300
setup, it has to be some form of
setup that the House Republicans

540
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:35,520
walked away and said, We're not
going to do this. We're not

541
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,490
going to vote for this. That
blew me away. I did not I did

542
00:28:38,490 --> 00:28:39,360
not expect that.

543
00:28:39,450 --> 00:28:41,640
Well, here's another thing going
on. It looks like if you start

544
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,160
doing some work into this, or
look into this, this this

545
00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:46,410
bailout thing that the Democrats
by the way, I

546
00:28:46,650 --> 00:28:49,710
totally promoting totally behind
Well, yeah, they're totally

547
00:28:49,710 --> 00:28:51,540
behind it. They're totally
promoting. They're the ones that

548
00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:54,240
that control the purse strings
of nobody's noticed for the last

549
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,360
two years in Congress. And you
know, they, they want to give

550
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,230
all an end within this money.
There's a whole bunch of pork. I

551
00:29:01,230 --> 00:29:03,600
mean, they made it first and it
takes $700 billion of the

552
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,390
taxpayers money. And it's not
just for bailing these guys out

553
00:29:06,390 --> 00:29:09,990
to throw a bunch of social
programmes that acorn things

554
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:14,340
gets a couple million or more,
or God knows how much, you know,

555
00:29:14,340 --> 00:29:17,340
which is the thing of Obama
worked for. And it's like, it's

556
00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:20,160
just like, the whole thing is
rife with fraud and corruption.

557
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,180
And it's ridiculous.

558
00:29:21,629 --> 00:29:24,689
I heard someone call it the no
banker left behind programme,

559
00:29:24,689 --> 00:29:28,139
which I thought was kind of
funny. Did you ever get a chance

560
00:29:28,139 --> 00:29:30,119
to read the Brzezinski book?

561
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:31,770
No, I have not gotten to it yet.

562
00:29:32,220 --> 00:29:36,000
I really, I really want you to
read that. It turns out that

563
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:43,080
four of his sons are in pretty
key spots. Now it really is Zig

564
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:49,680
new Brzezinski is is the advisor
for Obama on Foreign Affairs.

565
00:29:51,210 --> 00:29:54,060
And I'm just looking at this
article right now because I just

566
00:29:54,060 --> 00:30:00,300
got a hold of this. And his sons
have very interesting Oh, So I

567
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:04,440
can have very interesting spots
within within politics. Let me

568
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,580
just bring this up. I'm sorry
for some reason I fucked it up.

569
00:30:08,580 --> 00:30:13,410
Here we go. His son Mark is the
director of Russian and Eurasian

570
00:30:13,410 --> 00:30:17,580
Affairs at the National Security
Council or was under Clinton,

571
00:30:18,060 --> 00:30:21,240
and one of the prime movers of
the 2004 colour Revolution in

572
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,320
Ukraine. Ian Brzezinski
currently the US Deputy

573
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,010
Assistant Secretary of State for
European and NATO affairs and

574
00:30:29,010 --> 00:30:32,340
backer of costs of an
independence NATO expansion into

575
00:30:32,340 --> 00:30:37,710
Ukraine and Georgia and US
missiles and Poland. Nika is

576
00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:43,950
political commentator on MSNBC
is Miko must be his daughter is

577
00:30:43,950 --> 00:30:49,050
not a son, I don't presume maybe
it is a guy he had, who it says

578
00:30:49,050 --> 00:30:51,390
here who was interviewed with
Michelle Obama contributed to

579
00:30:51,390 --> 00:30:59,610
the general media, Obama, Obama
mania. And Matthew is us envoy

580
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,210
of the Czech opposition. I mean,
these guys are so entrenched

581
00:31:03,210 --> 00:31:06,120
like the shadow government it
totally Well, thank you. This is

582
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,930
why you need to read this book.
You need to read it because

583
00:31:09,930 --> 00:31:14,790
it's, everything is all spelled
out, man every single week. Do

584
00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:16,650
you have it? Did you order it
yet? Did you get

585
00:31:16,650 --> 00:31:18,900
my order? It shouldn't come it
should be coming on Monday.

586
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:19,650
Okay.

587
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,300
You'll enjoy it. You really
will. Because I know that bit by

588
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:26,550
bit, John, and people are
sending me messages about this.

589
00:31:26,550 --> 00:31:29,190
They're so happy that you're
waking up to the true reality.

590
00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:34,920
Me the same message is saying
for Adam, he's going to be

591
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,710
locked up in an insane keeps
going this way.

592
00:31:37,889 --> 00:31:46,259
Oh, they're both right. Oh, man.
Let's see. Okay, I'm kind of

593
00:31:46,259 --> 00:31:46,799
done on.

594
00:31:47,159 --> 00:31:50,129
Yeah, we're done. Forget those
two guys can relate to the Palin

595
00:31:50,129 --> 00:31:51,419
thing. We'll do the show after
that.

596
00:31:51,449 --> 00:31:54,119
When is that? When is the when's
the when's the vice presidential

597
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:54,509
debate

598
00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:56,790
next Thursday? Oh, God.
Fantastic.

599
00:31:57,930 --> 00:32:01,200
I'm looking forward to that.
Because I, you know, obviously

600
00:32:01,230 --> 00:32:05,040
Palin interests me enormously.
And, and we talked about this

601
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,040
last week, you know, she went to
the George Bush Training School,

602
00:32:08,220 --> 00:32:12,180
where she's told taught to speak
in bursts of sound bites, which

603
00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:17,010
are directly from the Talking
Points Memo. And it's so easy to

604
00:32:17,010 --> 00:32:19,770
confuse her because it's one
thing to talk like that when

605
00:32:19,770 --> 00:32:22,620
you're in the Rose Garden. It's
another thing when, you know,

606
00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:25,290
you're being interviewed by
Katie Couric, you know, that

607
00:32:25,290 --> 00:32:26,310
just doesn't work.

608
00:32:26,460 --> 00:32:28,770
But she's got to be more
personable. I mean, the whole

609
00:32:28,770 --> 00:32:32,700
thing about her, it seemed to me
the reason you'd be attracted to

610
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:35,040
her is because she seemed very
personable. Now the thing a good

611
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,920
example is, you know, they have
this, you know, this negative

612
00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:42,090
YouTube video of her in a
church. One of the guys seen

613
00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:44,550
that, yeah, and she's very
personable. I mean, yeah, she's,

614
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,600
you know, obviously,

615
00:32:46,410 --> 00:32:47,910
a pretty good speaker. You know,
she's

616
00:32:49,860 --> 00:32:52,230
she didn't have any trouble
talking in that environment. And

617
00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:56,310
when did she become a robot? She
now she's stiff. She never had

618
00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:58,950
she just never got any back and
forth. And in my argument about

619
00:32:58,950 --> 00:33:01,620
this is when she was with
Charlie Gibson, she had this one

620
00:33:01,620 --> 00:33:04,920
answer she had for one question
Gibson asked him about what

621
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,610
happens if Israel bombs Iran,
what would we do? And she said,

622
00:33:08,610 --> 00:33:11,670
I don't think we can second
guess what Israel does was not

623
00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:14,790
our position to second guess. So
Gibson asked the question again,

624
00:33:14,790 --> 00:33:19,740
a second time reworded. So she
says, the exact same answer. So

625
00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:23,370
he tries the third rewording of
the exact same question and she

626
00:33:23,550 --> 00:33:27,450
she says it again exactly the
same way the third time. Now,

627
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,230
why doesn't she say, Charlie,
you're asking me the same

628
00:33:31,230 --> 00:33:34,740
question over and over and over
like, what politician was my

629
00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:37,080
answer? I mean, I it's the same
question. I give me one answer.

630
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,630
You want the same answer? 20
times. I mean, what's the point

631
00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:42,480
of that? Why does she do
something like that? No, she

632
00:33:42,510 --> 00:33:46,110
robotically says oh, those we've
done our job to second guess.

633
00:33:46,110 --> 00:33:48,750
Oh, it's not our job to second
guess. I mean, this is not a

634
00:33:48,750 --> 00:33:51,420
conversation this is no back and
forth. She's just getting She

635
00:33:51,420 --> 00:33:52,620
looks like an idiot. Have you

636
00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:57,600
considered that? Maybe she is a
robot and the robot come on if

637
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,760
you've been chipped man, I'm
telling you these fuckers have

638
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:07,200
been chipped one one day you'll
understand. Anyway, that's gonna

639
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,750
be a good one. I can't wait. We
might even have to do a show on

640
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:13,110
Friday. Or maybe or Thursday
night because we if we do it on

641
00:34:13,110 --> 00:34:16,590
Saturday, Oh, it'll be too late.
Maybe and we might have to

642
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:20,580
couple of the things that last
week we talked about me and my

643
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:24,780
gold, which I got a lot of
response to but I was not that

644
00:34:24,780 --> 00:34:32,640
crazy. As now Fortis Bank, which
is was was my main bank. Looks

645
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,960
like they're going down the
tubes like

646
00:34:34,739 --> 00:34:37,409
my wife says to me when I told
her about the gold bar. She says

647
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:40,079
I hope Adam knows that when one
of these banks falls they shut

648
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,409
it down and they locked down all
the safe deposit boxes and you

649
00:34:43,409 --> 00:34:44,549
can't get your gold

650
00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:47,970
that's why it's not at the
fortress safe deposit box

651
00:34:47,970 --> 00:34:51,120
because then I wouldn't have had
the ticket with me what I now

652
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,360
she

653
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,940
thinks that you should just
paint the thing kind of silver

654
00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:59,100
coloured, so it looks like on
the floor is a doorstop.

655
00:34:59,430 --> 00:35:01,770
That's a good one. or make it a
brick colour and just put it

656
00:35:01,770 --> 00:35:04,470
into the wall or something like
that. Yeah, that's a that's a

657
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:05,940
good that's a good that's good.

658
00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:08,790
I had a guy friend of mine I
used to work with years ago who

659
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:11,070
was a gold prospector and he
collected quite a bit of gold he

660
00:35:11,070 --> 00:35:15,240
must had about a few pounds of
gold in his house at least. And

661
00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:21,270
he turned the gold into picture
frames and painted them black.

662
00:35:23,310 --> 00:35:26,520
And they looked like cheap as
picture frames was robbed the

663
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,710
place they would that's the last
thing they take are these

664
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:30,690
horrible looking picture frames?

665
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,660
That's funny. Well, you know in
the in the meantime, I'm not the

666
00:35:33,660 --> 00:35:37,050
only one thinking this way
because the US Mint has now said

667
00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:41,400
we don't have any more 24 karat
gold coins stops we're out of

668
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,450
them. They've been bought up
everyone's saving the shit.

669
00:35:46,020 --> 00:35:48,600
Yeah, that's what happens when
people get panicky

670
00:35:49,050 --> 00:35:51,750
by panicky man I'm just smart
and unprepared.

671
00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:54,990
Prepared. Always hit somebody
with that brick.

672
00:35:55,410 --> 00:35:58,860
I'm very prepared. I wanted to
ask you a chemical question

673
00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:02,550
knowing your background in in
chemical engineering or whatever

674
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:05,700
it is, you seem to have done so
much. That was a chemist Yes,

675
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,310
you were a chemist. Well I'm I'm
a chemist better living.

676
00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:11,160
A real chemist, not a chemist.
Better

677
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:17,430
Living Through Chemistry is my
moto. This melamine in China I

678
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:21,270
want to understand a little bit
more about why Melamine is used

679
00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:25,950
why it's showing up in milk and
it seems to me like this is

680
00:36:25,950 --> 00:36:29,190
probably a much larger scandal
that is going to be unravelled

681
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:32,220
and that it's not just in
Chinese products and probably in

682
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,520
other things that have to show a
protein count I mean if you

683
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,540
follow this at all

684
00:36:37,170 --> 00:36:40,140
on and off I remember when it
when it first became scandal you

685
00:36:40,140 --> 00:36:42,930
don't you don't care about
babies dying. No, I do care

686
00:36:42,930 --> 00:36:45,780
about babies dying. But you
know, I just that that cropped

687
00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:49,260
up on the radar. It's some sort
of thing that confuses tests.

688
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:53,520
Yeah, it shows a higher protein
count in didn't exist the

689
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,490
product. Yeah, but But it's
poison. Right. What is melamine?

690
00:36:57,029 --> 00:36:58,499
Well, let's find out. Oh, okay.
I

691
00:36:58,500 --> 00:36:59,340
thought you might No,

692
00:36:59,549 --> 00:37:01,619
no, no, no, no, this stuff is
just like, you know, there were

693
00:37:01,619 --> 00:37:03,479
a few I was not in the food
industry.

694
00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:08,220
There was even a scare going
around that. That there was

695
00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:13,410
melamine in Oreo cookies. Which
was at Kraft I think who makes

696
00:37:13,410 --> 00:37:17,010
them they immediately jumped on
that one and said no, no,

697
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,740
there's that. In fact, there's
nothing of any value in Oreo

698
00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:24,330
cookies. Please do not be
alarmed. It's just lard. It's

699
00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:29,820
coloured lard. You're looking at
melamine. Yeah, I'm

700
00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:32,220
looking at Wikipedia has got a
pretty good little thing on it.

701
00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:33,210
You can check it out there.

702
00:37:34,410 --> 00:37:37,200
But is it what is it used for
it's just really

703
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,190
it's a plant some it's a bits of
product used to make plastics.

704
00:37:42,420 --> 00:37:45,570
A product to use to make
plastics and then putting that

705
00:37:45,570 --> 00:37:46,290
into food.

706
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,740
Yeah, it's interesting because
it's you it's combined with

707
00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:55,200
formaldehyde to produce melamine
resin, which then get it becomes

708
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,150
a thermo setting plastic is one
of those things that you use.

709
00:37:57,210 --> 00:37:59,490
It'd be you know, I would see
this and yeah, China would have

710
00:37:59,490 --> 00:38:02,100
a lot of this because they're
okay. They make. Yeah, yeah. And

711
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:05,220
the plastics, I mean, the
Chinese. In fact, the Taiwanese

712
00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:08,430
in particular are the world's
greatest plastic told me this

713
00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:11,340
was they make they do I would
just years ago, I was went to

714
00:38:11,340 --> 00:38:14,490
Computex and I was looking at
some, some routers that somebody

715
00:38:14,490 --> 00:38:18,360
had, were selling it was some
company. And these things were

716
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,060
gorgeous. And they were the
reason they locked together in

717
00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:23,160
some funny way. And then they
were all plastic and it was just

718
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,800
the coolest looking things. And
they were all beautiful. Because

719
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,980
they said Go ahead. I'm sorry. I
asked the guy where the cases

720
00:38:28,980 --> 00:38:30,960
are. He said we couldn't get
these somehow in the

721
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,330
conversation. We couldn't get
this produced in the United

722
00:38:33,330 --> 00:38:36,240
States because nobody can do
injection moulding like the

723
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:40,440
Chinese and they you can take
him a prototype and they'll make

724
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,840
an injection moulded version
that just dynamite

725
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:45,780
somewhere there's a there's a
CEO of a Japanese plastics

726
00:38:45,780 --> 00:38:48,600
company he was saying oh, I
watched this movie The Graduate

727
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:52,380
graduate. Okay, that went over
everyone's head I'm sorry.

728
00:38:53,580 --> 00:38:56,640
Anyway, so I don't think it went
over anyone's head but we talked

729
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,650
about the Chinese anyway. So

730
00:39:00,060 --> 00:39:03,060
we're even shorter than the
North Koreans oh, god you know

731
00:39:04,590 --> 00:39:07,260
so anyway, so I guess all kinds
of

732
00:39:07,350 --> 00:39:09,120
things but it's not getting into
it there

733
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:12,420
is because it did shows up in a
test

734
00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:14,520
it but that's poisoning people

735
00:39:14,910 --> 00:39:20,040
when I don't think they mean to.
Okay, now the Chinese Yeah.

736
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,380
I will say though, that my my
warning signals about the

737
00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:32,040
Gardasil, the HPV vaccine for
cervical cancer, thank goodness.

738
00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:35,880
Now mainstream media is picking
this up eight, eight girls have

739
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,360
died already. I think in the UK.
1000s have gone into

740
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:45,150
convulsions, nausea, joint pain.
Now this is bad, bad shit.

741
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:47,550
Why don't you review us on that
because you haven't brought that

742
00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:48,300
up on this show?

743
00:39:48,540 --> 00:39:51,240
Well, I did, but it was a couple
of weeks ago. So what I noticed

744
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:55,920
because I kind of scan three
news sources I'm looking at the

745
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,710
UK I'm looking at continental
Europe mainly through the

746
00:39:58,710 --> 00:40:00,960
Netherlands, which of course
report It's on Germany and

747
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,810
France and a number of different
countries. And of course, the US

748
00:40:03,810 --> 00:40:07,710
News. And what I saw is
simultaneously I saw this big

749
00:40:07,710 --> 00:40:12,150
push towards this vaccine for
cervical cancer and the and the

750
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:14,520
way they're dispensing it. And
by the way, it's, it's a

751
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,910
combination of three shots for
the treatment, combined about

752
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:24,060
five or $600. So, yeah, and it's
made by Merck. So you know, and

753
00:40:24,060 --> 00:40:26,940
who, of course, have a pipeline
problem, because all of these

754
00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:29,130
products that they already have,
or you know, their patents are

755
00:40:29,130 --> 00:40:32,190
expiring, and you can even read
it right there in their annual

756
00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:34,590
reports, which I think you'd
enjoy. John, you can see how

757
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:39,180
they have billions in the
pipeline for the pandemic flu

758
00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:43,440
virus, and this is one of them.
So it's, it's in the plan. And

759
00:40:43,470 --> 00:40:47,160
and you see this simultaneously
being marketed to 12 year old

760
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,310
children, girls only, which is
interesting, because boys can

761
00:40:50,310 --> 00:40:55,170
also carry this virus. And it
came up at the same time, it's

762
00:40:55,170 --> 00:40:57,540
being dispensed through schools,
they're trying to make it

763
00:40:57,540 --> 00:41:02,070
mandatory. And when I saw the
commercial in the UK, it just,

764
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:05,370
it blew me away, because it's
really hip, you know, it's like,

765
00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:07,890
and Christina and I were
laughing about it, because of

766
00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:10,290
course, it's targeted towards
girls younger than she is. So

767
00:41:10,290 --> 00:41:12,870
she's starting to see through
this stuff. And it's like, Hey,

768
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:15,870
I'm on my Facebook, I'm on my
MySpace, I've got my mobiles,

769
00:41:15,870 --> 00:41:19,050
I'm doing my hair, I'm going to
school, ya know, cute little

770
00:41:19,050 --> 00:41:21,600
tune there. And then and I'm
gonna get the jab. And then I

771
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,290
have a little fake tattoo, I got
the jab, you know, complete mind

772
00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:29,070
control of this drug. And now,
thank god schools are saying,

773
00:41:29,070 --> 00:41:33,240
No, we're not gonna, we're not
gonna let this be injected on

774
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:36,000
our premises. That's the same as
endorsing it. And we don't know

775
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,940
anything about it. And now
children are dying. They're

776
00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:43,290
dying from this shit. They're
dying. And it's and you know,

777
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,470
it's and the way it's market is
like, oh, take this shot. You'll

778
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:49,230
never get cancer, you know, but
that's not what this is this.

779
00:41:49,470 --> 00:41:55,110
This HPV is a sexually
transmitted disease. And every

780
00:41:55,110 --> 00:41:58,530
3000 girls who have it 2000 boys
have it they're not getting any

781
00:41:58,530 --> 00:42:03,900
vaccinations. And so it's it's a
obviously a huge ass money

782
00:42:03,930 --> 00:42:04,800
scheme.

783
00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:07,860
Yeah, well, there's 500 bucks.
That's an uncommon, huge,

784
00:42:07,890 --> 00:42:12,450
it's huge. And you can scam.
It's not just a scam. It's a

785
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,830
it's a scam, and a travesty.
Thank you. So And luckily,

786
00:42:16,830 --> 00:42:22,050
though, I'm seeing more and
more. Mainly schools and parents

787
00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:25,470
just saying No way. Just not not
going to do this. And I'm so

788
00:42:25,470 --> 00:42:28,380
happy because 1000s of girls are
getting sick from this and eight

789
00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:29,310
of them have died.

790
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,430
But that's somebody's on it.

791
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,950
Yeah, there you go. Do you?
Yeah. How about Warren Buffett

792
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:44,190
though? Pumpkin 5 billion bucks
into a Goldman?

793
00:42:45,150 --> 00:42:48,210
Yeah, I thought that was weird.
Interesting, huh. I guess

794
00:42:48,210 --> 00:42:51,750
that'll save the company. I
think they gotta keep Goldman in

795
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:53,790
business. For some reason. I
think there's something shady

796
00:42:53,790 --> 00:42:54,390
about them.

797
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:58,290
But well, first of all, the
general even Cramer was saying

798
00:42:58,290 --> 00:43:00,870
this the other night. Everyone
on Wall Street hates Goldman

799
00:43:00,870 --> 00:43:04,350
Sachs. I'm not quite sure why
but they are generally hated by

800
00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:11,520
other firms. But it's very clear
that Goldman they just, Paulson

801
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,560
just hired another Goldman guy
to advise him, you know, he of

802
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,650
course is also a Goldman so he
was the CEO of Goldman Sachs. I

803
00:43:19,650 --> 00:43:22,650
mean, Goldman Sachs is clearly
there is a shadow government.

804
00:43:22,650 --> 00:43:25,890
Yeah, yeah. Not just that, but
they're the spider at the middle

805
00:43:25,890 --> 00:43:28,920
of the web somehow, or at least
of the financial web. Now

806
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,420
there's somewhere and so we have
Washington Mutual, which went

807
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:33,720
down was

808
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:35,940
pretty weird. My wife was really
concerned about the show. How

809
00:43:35,940 --> 00:43:39,090
can the government do that? They
just say you're gonna do this. I

810
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,310
might, you know, I don't haven't
heard a good explanation for it.

811
00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:46,980
But I have a theory Well, I
think that they think that at

812
00:43:46,980 --> 00:43:50,460
some point they were given a I
think some sort I think they

813
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:53,700
must have gotten some government
money with it with the proviso

814
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:56,580
attached what stead of turn
something around and the

815
00:43:56,580 --> 00:43:58,680
government could just take them
over and tell them what to do.

816
00:43:59,190 --> 00:44:02,190
Well, but they haven't been
taken. The FDIC is running right

817
00:44:02,190 --> 00:44:02,700
so no, no,

818
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:04,740
no, but they didn't I know they
just say here here. Here's the

819
00:44:04,740 --> 00:44:06,870
deal. You guys are going to do
this whether you like it or not

820
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:09,630
like it like when they made Bank
of America by those guys. I

821
00:44:09,630 --> 00:44:11,430
mean, the whole thing is weird.

822
00:44:11,549 --> 00:44:15,389
And now in the UK, the largest
mortgage lender about to go

823
00:44:15,389 --> 00:44:19,649
under was it being in Brian
Bramley or something?

824
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,700
Yeah, I don't know who they are.
This mortgage thing is not over

825
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:24,000
yet.

826
00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:27,180
Now this is this has got to be
just the beginning. No,

827
00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:29,400
not the beginning. It's the end.

828
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:31,590
Oh, please. You feel the bottom
yet John.

829
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,630
You hit and see the market go
below 10,000. It did bottomed

830
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:39,270
out, bang, bang, bang, just
bouncing around the top of that

831
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:43,200
number right around 10 with
10,400. net shot back up to

832
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,180
11,000. And now it's just
stabilising.

833
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:47,700
Right. But it all depends on
what's going to happen. So I

834
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:52,110
presume that they are actually
going to pass a bill and the you

835
00:44:52,110 --> 00:44:54,810
know, the, the way I see it
happening is they're already

836
00:44:54,810 --> 00:44:57,360
positioning this and saying
well, you know, we'll give you a

837
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,200
couple 100 billion and like like
it's chump chump change, give me

838
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,210
a couple 100 billion. And then
if you want more, you have to

839
00:45:03,210 --> 00:45:07,110
come back to the to the trough.
And but the really interesting

840
00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:10,560
thing is about this oversight,
you know, the no court, no

841
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,260
committee, no, nobody can look
at what we're doing. That's the

842
00:45:13,260 --> 00:45:15,600
thing that I'm interested in
because that power, that's

843
00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:18,690
that's the scary, the Evil
Shadow Government power.

844
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,370
They need to be sued. There's
also something else going on

845
00:45:23,370 --> 00:45:25,650
this kind of interesting, the
EFF is suing the government over

846
00:45:25,650 --> 00:45:29,730
a new Copyright Treaty, really?
A new treaty? Oh, boy, yeah,

847
00:45:29,730 --> 00:45:31,950
there's some new Copyright
Treaty that's floating around

848
00:45:31,950 --> 00:45:34,530
and they won't divulge its
contents.

849
00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:39,510
The government won't. Right. If
you're kidding me.

850
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,780
And you know what that means? It
means it's like one of those

851
00:45:42,780 --> 00:45:45,750
European was the Brits have a
couple of these things, where

852
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:49,410
it's against copyright law to
divulge the contents of the law,

853
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,770
because of some, because in
there, there's a bunch of

854
00:45:52,770 --> 00:45:55,860
provisos that, you know, there's
a bunch of new they're given the

855
00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:58,260
WIPO people have been trying to
do this for years, I've written

856
00:45:58,260 --> 00:46:01,110
about this at least a half a
dozen times, where they get they

857
00:46:01,110 --> 00:46:03,660
put a copyright law together,
one of the things is to protect

858
00:46:03,660 --> 00:46:06,960
patent, you can't even talk
about the patent. And to protect

859
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,240
this, you can't even tell you
can't talk about the law that

860
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:11,970
protects the patent from being
talked about even and it's just

861
00:46:11,970 --> 00:46:15,120
as ridiculous onion of, of kind
of you can't do this, you can't

862
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,270
do that. And it's part of the
law, too, you know, and it's

863
00:46:18,270 --> 00:46:22,260
just to me, it's like, this is
stems back to what you can't do

864
00:46:22,260 --> 00:46:25,230
the reverse engineer, you can't
reverse engineer something. I

865
00:46:25,230 --> 00:46:27,090
mean, that's it stuff like that
is in these laws,

866
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:32,850
the anti the anti counterfeiting
trade agreement, ACTA. That's

867
00:46:32,850 --> 00:46:36,720
what it's about. Canada
announced 2007, as a partnership

868
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:40,770
to combat counterfeiting and
piracy, that the US and several

869
00:46:40,770 --> 00:46:43,500
of its trading partners view as
critical threats to their

870
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:46,380
business. And the cause of
billions of dollars lost in

871
00:46:46,380 --> 00:46:52,710
revenue annually. Is this China
thing, maybe because of the

872
00:46:52,740 --> 00:46:53,880
headcount? That's the problem. I

873
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,430
don't know. Because we can't see
the we can't read the bill.

874
00:46:57,180 --> 00:46:59,700
Crazy about you know how to make
doughnuts for all we know.

875
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:04,410
Crazy. I mean, so I don't know
what it's about. I'm just

876
00:47:04,410 --> 00:47:07,140
saying, once they somebody gets
the bill release, so we can

877
00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:10,020
actually read it. We can figure
out what they're trying to do.

878
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:12,360
So you know, there's something
like that's going on. There's

879
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,270
some they're trying to pull a
fast one. There's no other

880
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:16,620
reason to do something like
that.

881
00:47:19,350 --> 00:47:26,850
It's scary. Now, there's a whole
thing here on EFF. Wow, it's too

882
00:47:26,850 --> 00:47:30,030
much to read now. But yeah, I
would talk about it later. Yeah.

883
00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:34,740
A lot of countries involved.
Switzerland, Japan. European

884
00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:39,540
community, Republic of Korea,
New Zealand, Mexico, Jordan,

885
00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:48,690
Morocco, Singapore, United Arab
Emirates, Canada. I wonder, I

886
00:47:48,690 --> 00:47:51,150
bet you I bet you it's a pure
information thing. I bet you're

887
00:47:51,150 --> 00:47:53,670
right. Yeah. I think your your
instinct there is is spot on.

888
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:58,080
This is about being able to even
you know, maybe it's to combat

889
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,460
the Freedom of Information Act.

890
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,170
either. I mean, we don't know,
like, crazier things have

891
00:48:04,170 --> 00:48:06,270
happened. We're good. We can
guess until we're blue in the

892
00:48:06,270 --> 00:48:08,400
face. And it could be anything,
it could be something really

893
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,730
weird. It could be just
something stupid. I mean, who

894
00:48:11,730 --> 00:48:14,940
knows? I mean, hopefully, we'll
get this thing. You know, some

895
00:48:14,970 --> 00:48:17,460
judge somewhere along the lines
will say what is it? What's

896
00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:21,360
this? What is this BS? And then,
you know, make them reveal? Of

897
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,410
course, they won't right away.
See, okay, well, we'll have to

898
00:48:25,410 --> 00:48:29,490
find it first. This is the kind
of thing this is a game that you

899
00:48:29,490 --> 00:48:31,410
still didn't fight, they still
play this game in Silicon

900
00:48:31,410 --> 00:48:33,060
Valley. And I'm always surprised
when somebody doesn't know how

901
00:48:33,060 --> 00:48:35,670
to play the game. But it could
I've been involved with enough,

902
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:39,270
you know, as an expert witness,
in enough court cases in Silicon

903
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:42,570
Valley to know how it's playing.
It's quite hilarious. And they

904
00:48:42,570 --> 00:48:45,000
go and basically it goes like
this. And let's say we take two

905
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,130
companies like AMD and Intel,
for example. And so they made

906
00:48:50,130 --> 00:48:53,250
some agreement. And Intel is
supposed to provide AMD with

907
00:48:53,250 --> 00:48:54,900
something and then all of a
sudden, they just say, you know,

908
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:57,450
I think we shouldn't be
providing this anymore. So AMD

909
00:48:57,450 --> 00:49:03,090
will sue Intel. And then the
judge will say will will first

910
00:49:03,090 --> 00:49:06,300
is a lot of stalling and bunch
of court to take the case takes

911
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:08,820
forever to be resolved in in a
judge okay, you have to give

912
00:49:08,820 --> 00:49:12,030
them the documents. And so then
Intel gives them the documents,

913
00:49:12,030 --> 00:49:13,920
but they don't give them the
real documents. Again, phoney

914
00:49:14,370 --> 00:49:17,250
documents, it takes like six
months to figure out these

915
00:49:17,250 --> 00:49:20,820
documents are no good to the
wrong documents. Sorry, go back

916
00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:23,370
into court and the guest and
then in the end.

917
00:49:24,660 --> 00:49:36,870
Oh, hold on, John. Hold on. I
hate this demo. All right, I got

918
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:39,480
your back now. Okay, sorry about
that. All of a sudden, it just

919
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,680
got static from Skype.

920
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,550
Anyway, so like this, this, this
kind of thing goes back and

921
00:49:44,550 --> 00:49:47,940
forth and back and forth with a
bunch of game playing. And by

922
00:49:47,940 --> 00:49:51,480
the time everything is finally
ordered or you know, kosher and

923
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,600
the documents is too late
because we the technology and

924
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,910
everything else has moved on,
like by a year.

925
00:49:56,940 --> 00:49:59,820
So what I learned here is that
you've been an expert witness

926
00:49:59,820 --> 00:50:04,440
and the These types of court
cases. Yeah, I have, like an

927
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,200
Intel AMD come out.

928
00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:09,450
I've done a couple of I did a
whole bunch. I've done

929
00:50:09,450 --> 00:50:12,540
something, you know for the guys
that were that were being sued

930
00:50:12,540 --> 00:50:15,600
by Hayes modem. I did a modem
case I did. I did if I did the

931
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:21,000
287 chip case, I did something
about, there's a keylock thing.

932
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,020
And somewhere in Denver, I did a
case I've done about maybe 10 of

933
00:50:25,020 --> 00:50:27,630
these things I did know I was
going to be an expert witness

934
00:50:27,630 --> 00:50:31,170
for Rodney Dangerfield,
actually, and then he died. He

935
00:50:31,170 --> 00:50:33,930
will know he won this case. I
mean, it was one of these things

936
00:50:33,930 --> 00:50:37,710
where sometimes they'll bring
somebody like me in to be you

937
00:50:37,710 --> 00:50:40,080
know, just to scare the other
side, the other side got scared.

938
00:50:40,140 --> 00:50:40,890
And

939
00:50:41,550 --> 00:50:44,490
this is like your, your lawyer
buddies, or, I mean, do you

940
00:50:44,490 --> 00:50:46,770
know, Rod Rodney Dangerfield? Or
how does I ever met him?

941
00:50:46,770 --> 00:50:52,170
No, but have a check signed by
him. And I made a big blowup of

942
00:50:52,170 --> 00:50:59,160
it. And and then I did a I did
the linspire case where

943
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:05,700
Microsoft was suing lindows. And
it was it came down to the end.

944
00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:08,250
And then Michael Robertson ended
with a pot full of money, they

945
00:51:08,250 --> 00:51:14,040
changed the name to linspire.
And actually, I had a deposition

946
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,950
in that case, I think was
probably the thing that was the

947
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:20,190
best in the case, to be honest,
but I don't do it. I don't

948
00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:22,710
solace I you know, there's a
couple of these agencies that

949
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:27,300
will ask me to put my name and I
don't normally solicit this

950
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:30,240
work, because it's actually kind
of boring and tedious. It's

951
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:33,450
totally boring. But I'll tell
you, what's cool about it is

952
00:51:33,450 --> 00:51:36,420
that you get all kinds of
insight dope. That's the only

953
00:51:36,420 --> 00:51:39,150
reason to be honest about the
only reason besides the money.

954
00:51:39,420 --> 00:51:42,120
And there's some money to be
made. But there's you find out

955
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,520
weird stuff because these
lawyers have access because they

956
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,510
do discovery, right? And so they
they find out all kinds of crazy

957
00:51:48,510 --> 00:51:51,210
things. And it's like they tell
you about them and you go wow,

958
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:51,360
what

959
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,480
do they do they train you like
they do with medical witnesses,

960
00:51:54,510 --> 00:51:56,580
like a medical doctor. Okay,
here's what I want you to talk

961
00:51:56,580 --> 00:51:58,530
about. Here's what I don't want
you to talk about. Here's the

962
00:51:58,530 --> 00:52:01,320
direction you should take your
answer into the do that. Yep,

963
00:52:01,470 --> 00:52:04,260
totally. Yeah. There's your
there's a system for you to come

964
00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:07,020
to America, people. If you got
money, you can win.

965
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,260
Well, basically, they don't do
it in such a way that they tell

966
00:52:10,260 --> 00:52:13,410
you what to say. Because you get
grilled by the other side about

967
00:52:13,410 --> 00:52:15,570
that they the other side will
grill you about Did they tell

968
00:52:15,570 --> 00:52:18,720
you to say this? And they'll
grill you if you're if they do

969
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:21,480
it? You can't lie, right? You
can't lie? No, you don't lie.

970
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:23,670
You don't have to? Because
you're not brought into the

971
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:24,060
case.

972
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:27,540
But if they know but if they say
Did they? Did they tell you

973
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:29,940
about this? Do they tell you to
say this? You have to say yes or

974
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:30,300
no.

975
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,880
Yeah. And they and generally
speaking the way it's set up,

976
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,480
you can det you know, you're
never really told you just It

977
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,430
goes like this, you if you're
going to be an expert witness

978
00:52:38,430 --> 00:52:41,760
you go and you for one thing
you're like, it's like getting a

979
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,300
just like a job interview. You
have your opinions about stuff,

980
00:52:45,330 --> 00:52:48,480
and then they almost like they
grill you. In other words,

981
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,090
decide you're working for it,
then they'll see what your

982
00:52:51,090 --> 00:52:53,010
answers are going to be for the
different kinds of questions.

983
00:52:53,010 --> 00:52:56,640
They'll never tell you to say
anything. And so but they'll

984
00:52:56,670 --> 00:53:00,120
they figure out that yeah, this
is your first I read the case.

985
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,250
So I know what the case is all
about. And then I figure out how

986
00:53:02,250 --> 00:53:05,190
to give the the right answers.
So I don't like say something

987
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:08,190
stupid. And then I only answer
yes and no to the certain

988
00:53:08,190 --> 00:53:11,400
things. And I only talk about,
you know, typically an expert

989
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,380
witness a lot of people don't
realise as an expert witness

990
00:53:13,380 --> 00:53:18,600
only has one point to prove
usually, like one single thing

991
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,870
that has to get into the record.
So you so you would be there to

992
00:53:21,870 --> 00:53:24,570
say something about something
that's specific, and then you're

993
00:53:24,570 --> 00:53:27,570
done. That's it. And even though
they'll grill you and try the

994
00:53:27,570 --> 00:53:30,300
other side of grilling, and try
to make you say that you are

995
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:33,180
mistaken, or you know, you're
stupid, and then they try to

996
00:53:33,180 --> 00:53:37,320
just embarrass you. They try to
find what you're educated. They

997
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,230
ask you about your education,
the other side, the competitors.

998
00:53:40,530 --> 00:53:42,840
They ask you about your
education, and they asked you

999
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,990
about whether you really should
even be an apple. Yeah, that's a

1000
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:49,200
discredit. You're right. Yeah,
they bring up like for my case,

1001
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,360
I'm usually you know, I get all
these columns. I've written

1002
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,420
1000s of them. But you know,
some unbelieving, they'll

1003
00:53:54,420 --> 00:53:58,770
pull something out. Well, in
1923, Mr. DeVore, ik you wrote

1004
00:53:58,770 --> 00:54:02,400
in CBS pre historic market,
watch that.

1005
00:54:02,430 --> 00:54:05,040
Yeah, no, they do that. And then
the worst part, the most

1006
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,950
embarrassing thing, and I've
decided this is fine. It just

1007
00:54:07,950 --> 00:54:10,560
happened to me twice and never
gonna happen again. When you do

1008
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,380
video depositions decide that
you're working on because the

1009
00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:18,030
video deposition is gonna be
seen by someone. They put makeup

1010
00:54:18,030 --> 00:54:18,450
on? Yeah.

1011
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,400
So you look healthy and proper.
You don't look like you're dying

1012
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,460
on. It's funny because, you
know, when MTV sued me over the

1013
00:54:26,670 --> 00:54:31,890
mtv.com domain name. I'll never
forget Google. First of all,

1014
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,570
they did discovery and this was
in 1993. Okay. They did

1015
00:54:36,570 --> 00:54:40,920
discovery and they had like two
interns were the only ones who

1016
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:46,380
who had any knowledge of HTML,
literally. And I had to bring in

1017
00:54:46,410 --> 00:54:49,440
all of the files that I had on
the server. Now this server was

1018
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:54,780
like a headless son three apt to
DGX in in Virginia. So you know,

1019
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:57,720
I spent like days downloading
stuff and then put it all onto

1020
00:54:57,750 --> 00:55:01,620
floppy disks, if you can believe
it. And they went through all

1021
00:55:01,620 --> 00:55:04,380
these files and they would
literally come up with not just

1022
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:07,950
say, Okay, well, this was this
was a file that was apparently

1023
00:55:07,950 --> 00:55:10,470
on this server, whether it was
public or not, right? I mean,

1024
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:12,960
this was just the server was
also kind of a dumping ground.

1025
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,040
These are early days. And this
was free. This was like free.

1026
00:55:17,070 --> 00:55:20,040
This was the web that just kind
of come around. This is most of

1027
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,220
this stuff was from there was a
gopher server installed on it.

1028
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,520
But then in these proceedings,
they actually would roll out

1029
00:55:26,730 --> 00:55:29,400
videotapes of me on MTV, and
you're like, Well, you were

1030
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,280
talking about this in this type
of manner. And you just think,

1031
00:55:32,310 --> 00:55:37,440
Oh, holy crap, you almost feel
guilty sometimes. I am an evil

1032
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,490
guy. You know, clearly I had not
I had no idea what I was doing.

1033
00:55:42,060 --> 00:55:44,190
So scary is what was saying

1034
00:55:44,190 --> 00:55:46,590
about the one mentioned about
the makeup as they put the

1035
00:55:46,590 --> 00:55:48,660
makeup on the show the other
side, they compared they come

1036
00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:50,790
out and they start grilling you
about the makeup?

1037
00:55:51,059 --> 00:55:54,959
Why are you wearing makeup?
Exactly? Is that a problem?

1038
00:55:57,299 --> 00:55:59,159
Don't you think it brings up my
skin tone?

1039
00:56:00,150 --> 00:56:02,730
Was you're always tempted to
have a one liner like that. But

1040
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,950
you've essentially you go up to
and you say yes and no yes and

1041
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:07,080
no. And then you make your
opinion about something to use

1042
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,100
your side makes you expose the
information that they want on

1043
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:13,410
the record, and the other side
just does nothing but try to

1044
00:56:13,410 --> 00:56:16,650
discredit you in every
imaginable way and embarrass

1045
00:56:16,650 --> 00:56:19,740
you, you know, try to make you
out to be an idiot, you know,

1046
00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:21,690
that probably shouldn't even be
in the job. You know, why are

1047
00:56:21,690 --> 00:56:22,860
you even here?

1048
00:56:22,890 --> 00:56:25,290
What kind of money can you make
with that? What was an hourly

1049
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:26,400
rate? Or how does that work

1050
00:56:26,430 --> 00:56:29,340
is a minimum the way I finally
got the, you know, years ago,

1051
00:56:29,340 --> 00:56:32,160
somebody who is an expert on
expert witnesses that you

1052
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,940
basically you charge them up
front, for, for, you know, you

1053
00:56:35,940 --> 00:56:38,910
have a minimum period, and then
usually you never get to that

1054
00:56:38,910 --> 00:56:40,080
it's almost like a book.

1055
00:56:41,220 --> 00:56:45,330
Advance. Okay, okay. Miss Palin,
please answer the question. What

1056
00:56:45,330 --> 00:56:46,560
kind of money are we talking
about?

1057
00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:50,580
You can get depending on who you
are, you get anywhere from 200

1058
00:56:50,580 --> 00:56:53,460
to two, probably $1,000 an hour.

1059
00:56:53,549 --> 00:56:57,029
Wow. And this is a while ago,
was this still current prices?

1060
00:56:57,269 --> 00:56:57,839
And that depends

1061
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,480
on the person. I mean, I don't
get to $1,000 an hour, let's put

1062
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,550
it that way. But there are
people that do.

1063
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,790
Good deal. All right. Hey, 530.

1064
00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:11,760
Well, you know, you're, you're

1065
00:57:12,089 --> 00:57:14,819
no, I appreciate the thought
being me being on UK time and

1066
00:57:14,819 --> 00:57:18,509
everything at the at the Ritz
Carlton. That's an interesting

1067
00:57:18,509 --> 00:57:21,419
choice. I had no idea they had
an award winning restaurant

1068
00:57:21,419 --> 00:57:21,689
there.

1069
00:57:22,169 --> 00:57:24,179
I think the Ritz Carlton right
now is one of the top three

1070
00:57:24,179 --> 00:57:25,529
restaurants in San Francisco.

1071
00:57:25,590 --> 00:57:29,610
So for those who don't know,
John, and I, of course, always

1072
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,650
try to have dinner together.
It's going to be a couple times,

1073
00:57:31,650 --> 00:57:34,230
John, I'm here for weeks. I'm
not going anywhere. I'm staying

1074
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:36,780
until we got this these hosted
channels up and running and all

1075
00:57:36,780 --> 00:57:39,630
the stuff we're doing so

1076
00:57:39,660 --> 00:57:41,970
right now we'll probably I
figure we have a bubble dinner.

1077
00:57:42,030 --> 00:57:45,960
Three major. These two major I
want to do with this one

1078
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,320
probably have to be I don't know
how we're going to do it. But I

1079
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,210
still there's a restaurant in
the city I haven't been to

1080
00:57:51,210 --> 00:57:52,860
called qua COI

1081
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,430
I've eaten across. Oh, you
haven't? Yeah, I think I have I

1082
00:57:56,430 --> 00:57:59,670
think a couple How long has it
been around? Not long. Isn't

1083
00:57:59,670 --> 00:58:03,600
isn't it on Embarcadero. No. Oh,
that I must be wrong. But it's

1084
00:58:03,630 --> 00:58:07,200
but isn't that Jesus? Wasn't
that a UK restaurant? It was a

1085
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,040
London restaurant called qua?
COI. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Now I'm

1086
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,950
thinking of something with a
cube. No, I'm wrong. Okay, so

1087
00:58:13,950 --> 00:58:16,380
that's a major restaurant we
have to go to so we should do at

1088
00:58:16,380 --> 00:58:19,080
least three and it would be
great if you would cook for me.

1089
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:23,610
Since I'm here all by myself. I
gotta get sex from someone else

1090
00:58:23,610 --> 00:58:27,330
at the dinner. I figured I could
least get from you. Sitting on.

1091
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:35,340
Hello. Yeah, the tech guys were
joking about that. They're still

1092
00:58:35,340 --> 00:58:37,860
sending me porn to hear for your
weekend.

1093
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:46,260
Yeah, it tells me cleaning up.
So anyway, I'll do the dishes.

1094
00:58:46,260 --> 00:58:48,930
If you cook Don't worry, the
dish I got a dishwashers only

1095
00:58:48,930 --> 00:58:51,270
the dishes clean. It's no
problem. You don't seem

1096
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:53,580
like a guy who would have a
dishwasher for a guy who doesn't

1097
00:58:53,580 --> 00:58:56,130
have a microwave and figured me
yeah, you probably like you have

1098
00:58:56,130 --> 00:58:57,690
something about no no

1099
00:58:57,690 --> 00:59:02,730
some of the greatest things
which compact her but my wife is

1100
00:59:02,730 --> 00:59:04,230
dead set against my uncle

1101
00:59:04,260 --> 00:59:07,860
Don would always say I don't
believe in any he's 80 I don't

1102
00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:11,760
believe in dishwashers because
you handle the plates twice. I

1103
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,460
always thought that was quite
interesting. You handle the

1104
00:59:14,460 --> 00:59:17,760
plates twice. Yeah. Because you
you handle them going in and you

1105
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:23,070
handle them going out. So well.
He feels that's not a good use

1106
00:59:23,070 --> 00:59:24,300
of his time. Clearly.

1107
00:59:24,990 --> 00:59:27,510
It's better to hold a plate from
for a half an hour scrubbing it

1108
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:28,770
clean. I don't think so what

1109
00:59:28,770 --> 00:59:32,100
I like is and I desperately want
when we move I hope we can get

1110
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:34,320
one of these if there's if it's
the right house and space is one

1111
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,230
of those dishwasher drawers so
that you actually put the plates

1112
00:59:37,230 --> 00:59:38,760
back where you're going to get.

1113
00:59:39,330 --> 00:59:42,840
I know that to be honest, you
know I did a lot of research on

1114
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,690
dishwashers before because we
had a dishwasher in this house.

1115
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:49,140
That was one of the most
advanced it was $1,000 it was a

1116
00:59:49,260 --> 00:59:51,690
it was made by one of these
companies that makes all this

1117
00:59:51,690 --> 00:59:56,700
high end stuff. Stainless steel
and then Olafson it had the most

1118
00:59:57,540 --> 01:00:01,020
water pressure of anything ever
you know just RIP, if there was

1119
01:00:01,020 --> 01:00:04,920
something on a dish it would rip
it off. And anyway, but the pump

1120
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,920
kept blowing up and the thing
was a noisy contraption. So I

1121
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,220
did some research and I found,
you know that if you start

1122
01:00:11,220 --> 01:00:13,530
really looking into it when you
buy a dishwasher, you don't want

1123
01:00:13,530 --> 01:00:16,680
an expensive one. You want the
cheap one of the cheap can

1124
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,710
mores. And you want the
following features. You don't

1125
01:00:19,710 --> 01:00:23,340
want stainless steel inside you
want plastic because stainless

1126
01:00:23,340 --> 01:00:27,210
steel dishwashers make a lot of
noise. Plastic dishwashers are

1127
01:00:27,210 --> 01:00:31,020
almost dead silent, it's
amazingly different. You want a

1128
01:00:31,020 --> 01:00:34,530
new one, a dishwasher that has
pushed buttons that are just

1129
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,330
mechanical because if you if you

1130
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,690
know electronics, and then none
of that fucking digital readout

1131
01:00:39,690 --> 01:00:43,320
of the LEDs always burn out the
handling messes up,

1132
01:00:43,350 --> 01:00:46,710
they get screwed up by the
moisture and the heat just on on

1133
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:49,770
off. That's what I like, yellow
knob to that

1134
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,080
guy. You don't need that, you
know, but

1135
01:00:52,110 --> 01:00:54,990
the point is, is that you get
these you know, just a basic

1136
01:00:55,020 --> 01:00:58,500
good quality dishwasher that
holds wine glasses, you got to

1137
01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:01,050
make sure that the racks will
hold wineglass especially the

1138
01:01:01,050 --> 01:01:04,500
upper one. And I actually when I
buy wine glasses, always buy one

1139
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:07,920
first and see how it fits. Of
course you don't want some

1140
01:01:07,950 --> 01:01:11,490
but but these drawers, the way
what I like about these

1141
01:01:11,490 --> 01:01:14,820
dishwashers, is his two drawers,
either side by side, or

1142
01:01:14,820 --> 01:01:16,140
do we have pronounced that

1143
01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:17,340
word draw?

1144
01:01:18,570 --> 01:01:21,810
Is that rare? Or is where? Yeah,
but anyway, go ahead.

1145
01:01:22,530 --> 01:01:28,140
I'm from England drawler. So it
has two drawers, either side by

1146
01:01:28,140 --> 01:01:33,450
side or one above each other.
And the theory is, is one of

1147
01:01:33,450 --> 01:01:36,630
them is is in use and the other
one is then the storage. So

1148
01:01:36,690 --> 01:01:39,300
after you've eaten you put your
plates away, you close it up and

1149
01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:42,810
you then you get your plates
from the other drawer. And so I

1150
01:01:42,810 --> 01:01:46,110
don't know how well they clean
obviously. But just the idea of

1151
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,410
that's where the dishes go. I
really really like and not just

1152
01:01:49,410 --> 01:01:52,170
dishes, the utensils, everything
you know, it's just like a

1153
01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:55,830
utensil and draw drawer drawer.
A drawer. I

1154
01:01:55,830 --> 01:01:56,910
can't even pronounce it.

1155
01:01:56,940 --> 01:01:59,520
Well. Yeah. I've been listening.
There's a couple things you

1156
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,130
pronounced differently. Another
one is measurement where I'm

1157
01:02:02,130 --> 01:02:04,950
used to saying measurement. But
you say same.

1158
01:02:04,980 --> 01:02:06,960
I don't think I've ever used the
word measurement

1159
01:02:06,990 --> 01:02:08,700
use well you use the word major.

1160
01:02:08,730 --> 01:02:11,820
I measure it. You said to me
several times measure it

1161
01:02:11,850 --> 01:02:15,030
measures your measures. Well, I
have a slight Midwestern accent

1162
01:02:15,030 --> 01:02:16,110
so it comes out once in a while.

1163
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,230
That's okay, we won't hold it
against you.

1164
01:02:19,770 --> 01:02:22,140
The ones I had to correct
because the family got sick of

1165
01:02:22,140 --> 01:02:25,170
it. I was I have to say, you
know I say I used to say the

1166
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,440
like you would say in Chicago I
would say milk instead of milk

1167
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,950
milk. Yeah. And then the other
one was I finally I just changed

1168
01:02:31,950 --> 01:02:34,950
it said screw it. I'm gonna you
know, I'm just I can say milk is

1169
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:38,580
not that hard. And the other one
was pelo instead of pillow. It's

1170
01:02:38,580 --> 01:02:43,740
pillow. It was from Chicago or
if you live in Milwaukee,

1171
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,680
where are you from? Palo where
you're from? You're from the

1172
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,250
Midwest?

1173
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,390
No, but my mom and dad were and
I did live in Chicago for a

1174
01:02:51,390 --> 01:02:54,210
little while when I was a kid
right? So what can I say?

1175
01:02:54,570 --> 01:02:57,240
It's like people from Buffalo,
New York. They also have very

1176
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,470
interesting pronunciation

1177
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,730
to a Boston let's go hit the
home run here with we're

1178
01:03:02,730 --> 01:03:03,660
pronunciations.

1179
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,860
Cat this whole country is just
illiterate.

1180
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,670
Not illiterate. We pretty much
know what about Britain they got

1181
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:13,620
the you can understand cockney,
let me

1182
01:03:13,620 --> 01:03:16,170
tell you you can go to North
Guilford and not understand

1183
01:03:16,170 --> 01:03:18,150
them. You don't need to go to
anywhere like you don't have to

1184
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:24,240
go to anywhere exquisite. That
and I'm pretty good at it. I can

1185
01:03:24,270 --> 01:03:27,750
I can listen to almost any
accent, any nationality, any

1186
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:32,460
nationality speaking English, I
can figure it out. For some

1187
01:03:32,460 --> 01:03:35,910
reason. I'm really good at that.
But I look at Patricia and I

1188
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:37,530
could just see you know, even
though we've been she's been

1189
01:03:37,530 --> 01:03:41,490
speaking English with me for you
know, 22 years lived in America

1190
01:03:41,490 --> 01:03:44,490
live in the UK, but some
accents. It's just impossible.

1191
01:03:44,550 --> 01:03:45,750
And that's on television.

1192
01:03:45,930 --> 01:03:49,170
Well, I had a guy who when I was
in high school, who was a I

1193
01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:51,420
think he taught German or French
or something, but he was a

1194
01:03:51,420 --> 01:03:56,700
German. And he was a fascinated
by a southern drawl because he

1195
01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:00,150
couldn't understand a word of
it. So when somebody talked like

1196
01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:04,590
this, it was not it wasn't
picking up a word of it. And so

1197
01:04:04,590 --> 01:04:06,360
I thought that was kind of
interesting. But when I I've

1198
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,380
noticed when I used to write for
PC Magazine, UK, as well as go,

1199
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:13,230
I would go to England a lot. And
all these editors, you know,

1200
01:04:13,230 --> 01:04:16,500
we're all fairly well educated
and they would sit around at

1201
01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:18,690
lunch or something. I couldn't
understand a word that any of

1202
01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:20,370
them said there, you know,
because they're starting to

1203
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,740
Brits are starting especially
the upper class was starting to

1204
01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:24,240
mumble so much, but also

1205
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,870
a lot of what they say is very
intertwined with local cultural

1206
01:04:27,870 --> 01:04:31,440
knowledge and stuff you know,
that they refer to very quickly

1207
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,450
that you just if you don't know
what you're never gonna pick up

1208
01:04:33,450 --> 01:04:37,650
on it. Maybe like politics. Oh,
yeah. everything they say is

1209
01:04:37,650 --> 01:04:41,670
there's always some irony or
joke about politics or something

1210
01:04:41,730 --> 01:04:47,670
else that's cultural that's
going on. It's, I love them. I

1211
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:49,680
love those Brits. I miss them.

1212
01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:51,360
Now while it's expensive,

1213
01:04:54,300 --> 01:04:55,200
to say the least.

1214
01:04:56,550 --> 01:04:58,590
So how's the economy doing over
there? I understand it's in the

1215
01:04:58,590 --> 01:04:59,460
tank totally

1216
01:04:59,460 --> 01:05:02,700
in the tank. Yeah, and
everyone's just all the you know

1217
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:06,990
the answer is drink more. Here
in the States it's go shopping

1218
01:05:07,020 --> 01:05:10,740
in Britain it's it's drink more
now it's totally in the tank.

1219
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,590
The Gordon Brown does have this,
you know, they had their big

1220
01:05:13,590 --> 01:05:17,400
party, who how shindig and they
all get together and you know

1221
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,860
there's been a question of
should there be a leadership

1222
01:05:19,860 --> 01:05:22,680
change of course Gordon Brown
saying, you know, no way I'm the

1223
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,700
guy you can't switch to someone
to a new leader and that net

1224
01:05:26,700 --> 01:05:28,530
from the same party right from
the Labour Party not even

1225
01:05:28,530 --> 01:05:30,960
talking about a general election
it's kind of weird the way they

1226
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,900
can kick someone out and do all
kinds of stuff and switch it

1227
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:39,900
around. But the best and I
recorded it of course, I didn't

1228
01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:42,750
bring it with me. I did record
it for you was an interview with

1229
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:46,890
Alistair Darling, who was the
the the Chancellor of the

1230
01:05:46,890 --> 01:05:51,000
Exchequer, and it was about the
financial bailout man, he is

1231
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,490
worse than Bush the way the
bullshit that comes out of his

1232
01:05:53,490 --> 01:05:57,630
mouth. He really just has no
idea has no idea what it's

1233
01:05:57,630 --> 01:06:00,240
what's going on. And Jeremy
Paxman, you

1234
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,580
know him the journalist he's
been come up in the

1235
01:06:02,580 --> 01:06:03,540
conversation. Yeah,

1236
01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:06,930
so he he interviewed with Jeremy
Paxman is great, because he'll

1237
01:06:06,930 --> 01:06:09,510
sit there and he doesn't give a
shit who used to go does news

1238
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:11,460
night, right? Yeah, exactly.
He'll laugh at you. He'll just

1239
01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:14,280
say, What are you talking about?
You know, just start. It'll

1240
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,760
throw his head back and roll his
eyes. I love that guy. He's

1241
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,960
really good at it.

1242
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,750
The Canadians do that kind of
interviewing, too. It's only in

1243
01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:23,460
the United States where there's
there's so

1244
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,810
deferential. Yeah. And we have
to be so proper. Why didn't that

1245
01:06:27,810 --> 01:06:32,040
happen? Political correctness.
Of course. It's doublespeak.

1246
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,610
It's or the Orwellian age we're
moving into. That's what that's

1247
01:06:35,610 --> 01:06:41,220
about. Absolutely. And, you
know, and we all have to be so

1248
01:06:41,220 --> 01:06:47,010
proper, Senator McCain. You
know, Congress, what is Palin?

1249
01:06:47,010 --> 01:06:49,890
What does she she's governor,
Governor, Governor, Governor

1250
01:06:49,890 --> 01:06:56,880
Palin, just for one say, Miss
Palin, Mrs. Palin. Sarah, just

1251
01:06:57,150 --> 01:07:00,480
for once. Like, Ron Paul, I

1252
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,760
know you think we have the Queen
of England over here with a

1253
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,740
bunch of etiquette crap,
exactly.

1254
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:09,450
Well, according to Jim Lehrer,
we do our next president is

1255
01:07:09,450 --> 01:07:11,070
going to rule the ruler and I
gotta get

1256
01:07:11,790 --> 01:07:13,200
a sound bite when you rule the

1257
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:19,500
country. Rules, right. It's
right after the nuclear thing by

1258
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:22,500
the 45 nuclear plants, which I
didn't know about that plan, by

1259
01:07:22,500 --> 01:07:27,870
the way, plan for 45 nuclear
plants? I didn't either. I guess

1260
01:07:27,870 --> 01:07:28,980
that's the energy plan.

1261
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:32,520
Well, are they there's got that
we got a lot of coal, you know,

1262
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,500
they're glad people don't
realise that we are the Saudi

1263
01:07:34,500 --> 01:07:37,950
Arabia of coal in the United
States, we have 300 right now at

1264
01:07:37,950 --> 01:07:40,410
running it current capacity for
all the energy needs that we

1265
01:07:40,410 --> 01:07:44,340
have. We have enough coal, if we
just drop everything else, we

1266
01:07:44,340 --> 01:07:47,910
have enough coal to power this
country. And that would include

1267
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:51,150
making electric cars and using
electricity to power everything.

1268
01:07:51,420 --> 01:07:54,840
We have enough coal for 300
years, 50 years.

1269
01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:56,790
So what's the what's the
drawback of coal?

1270
01:07:57,330 --> 01:08:00,690
Well, he actually, there's not
really a lot. I mean, you get a

1271
01:08:00,690 --> 01:08:01,620
lot of data come on,

1272
01:08:01,620 --> 01:08:04,800
there's gotta be some tax we can
throw on something there's a

1273
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:05,400
drawback

1274
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,380
is, you know, they have there's,
you know, it has a bad

1275
01:08:07,380 --> 01:08:11,820
reputation. Modern coal plants
with with the floating bed do a

1276
01:08:11,820 --> 01:08:14,340
really good job of burning coal
without creating a lot of

1277
01:08:14,340 --> 01:08:16,620
pollution. But there's still,
there's still an issue with the

1278
01:08:16,620 --> 01:08:20,730
little Mercury getting out. And
nobody wants a coal plant, you

1279
01:08:20,730 --> 01:08:25,470
know, up, down, or up wind from
Yeah. And Georgia, you don't

1280
01:08:25,470 --> 01:08:27,990
want to plant up when you don't
wanna be downwind of a coal coal

1281
01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:30,270
plant? Because it's just, you
know, there's I don't think that

1282
01:08:30,270 --> 01:08:34,980
they've solved the, the odour
problem necessarily. But you

1283
01:08:34,980 --> 01:08:39,750
know, I think combining coal
with wind power. And I mean,

1284
01:08:39,780 --> 01:08:43,140
I've mentioned this before, I
mean, I had on my old radio

1285
01:08:43,140 --> 01:08:48,390
show, real computing, I had the
father of modern wind power, who

1286
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:51,450
happens to be an American, who
says that in the United States,

1287
01:08:51,450 --> 01:08:54,870
we're on generation one, well,
everybody else is on generation

1288
01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:59,850
three and four around the world
of the VA. And we could power

1289
01:08:59,850 --> 01:09:03,720
the entire US grid, all the
power needs that we can have are

1290
01:09:03,750 --> 01:09:06,840
all doable. From North Dakota.

1291
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:10,290
Yeah. Because the way I bring
this up all the time, I think

1292
01:09:10,290 --> 01:09:12,060
you mentioned that before. Well,
of course, it's not going to

1293
01:09:12,060 --> 01:09:14,190
happen because the shadow
government and the energy

1294
01:09:14,190 --> 01:09:16,770
elites, that's not their game
plan, and that, by the way, is

1295
01:09:16,770 --> 01:09:19,890
tied into the dollar and the
petro dollars in the oil, so

1296
01:09:19,890 --> 01:09:22,290
it's never gonna happen. Of
course, we could do it. And

1297
01:09:22,290 --> 01:09:26,310
that's why I'm about no bailout
plan, fuck Wall Street, let them

1298
01:09:26,310 --> 01:09:29,640
burn, blood burn all the way up
to the White House lawn. We're

1299
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,370
Americans, we can figure this
shit out. We are very

1300
01:09:32,370 --> 01:09:35,370
resourceful, and we have the
resources. But we're just not

1301
01:09:35,370 --> 01:09:38,670
taking advantage of the
opportunity to make this change

1302
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,160
now. Great.

1303
01:09:43,140 --> 01:09:48,060
Well, it's academic, based on my
thinking about this as a cycle

1304
01:09:48,060 --> 01:09:49,650
anyway, so it doesn't make any
difference.

1305
01:09:51,150 --> 01:09:55,650
Yeah, it's just it bugs me. I
have to say it bugs me.

1306
01:09:55,980 --> 01:09:56,820
Apparently.

1307
01:09:58,950 --> 01:10:01,530
You got to think outside the
car. My Oh, there's one thing

1308
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:07,650
I'm sure you blog this the the
methane gas in the Arctic. Do

1309
01:10:07,650 --> 01:10:08,430
you hear about this?

1310
01:10:08,579 --> 01:10:11,669
Yeah. Yeah, I think somebody may
have blogged it.

1311
01:10:11,849 --> 01:10:15,029
You thought your thoughts? I
don't know, because what they're

1312
01:10:15,029 --> 01:10:18,029
saying is methane gas these
chimneys? It's well, first of

1313
01:10:18,029 --> 01:10:23,519
all immediately Oh, there's
it's, it's worse than co2. Yeah,

1314
01:10:23,519 --> 01:10:23,639
it's

1315
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:24,390
always something.

1316
01:10:24,570 --> 01:10:30,630
Yeah. It's like three times as
bad a greenhouse gases co2? I

1317
01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:33,780
don't know, I don't know if it
is. But you don't have any more

1318
01:10:33,780 --> 01:10:34,770
insight into that?

1319
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,490
No, actually I did when I read
it. I was like, hmm, I'm just,

1320
01:10:38,490 --> 01:10:40,350
you know, I think we're all kind
of inundated with this

1321
01:10:40,350 --> 01:10:44,190
greenhouse gas, you know, and
everything just has to be green

1322
01:10:44,190 --> 01:10:46,980
and all the money is going to
these investments. And I don't

1323
01:10:46,980 --> 01:10:49,230
know, I think it's just one of
those. You know, it's like,

1324
01:10:49,259 --> 01:10:50,999
well, you know, who's huge, you
know, who's huge.

1325
01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:53,520
Let's put it that way. Who's

1326
01:10:53,610 --> 01:10:56,190
Who's doing all this green
stuff? Investment is cleaner.

1327
01:10:56,519 --> 01:10:58,619
Yeah. Oh, no big time. Well,
that's because they got Gore

1328
01:10:58,619 --> 01:10:59,279
working for him.

1329
01:10:59,430 --> 01:11:02,760
Yeah, they've got go. Oh, in
fact, Ray lane is is doing a lot

1330
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:03,420
of that work.

1331
01:11:03,690 --> 01:11:07,320
Well, Ray lane and John Doerr
are both kind of green. It's

1332
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:07,830
funny because

1333
01:11:07,950 --> 01:11:11,190
Ray is such a Republican John
Doerr is such a Democrat. It's

1334
01:11:11,190 --> 01:11:14,220
interesting to see them working
on those things side by side.

1335
01:11:15,090 --> 01:11:18,000
Yeah, I think Dora was a
Republican, originally and then

1336
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,360
a massive Democrat right now,
I'll tell you that.

1337
01:11:21,660 --> 01:11:26,190
Well, yes. Because his his goal
is to become an ambassador or

1338
01:11:26,190 --> 01:11:30,270
the Secretary of State, or
something like that. I mean,

1339
01:11:30,270 --> 01:11:31,440
that's what every Nobel Peace

1340
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:34,830
Prize. I mean, if you have
everything right,

1341
01:11:35,309 --> 01:11:38,429
I think Bill Gates is gonna get
one of those before John Doerr

1342
01:11:38,429 --> 01:11:38,789
does

1343
01:11:38,820 --> 01:11:43,140
well, I'm investigating the Bill
and Melinda Gates Foundation

1344
01:11:43,170 --> 01:11:46,200
kind of on the side here. And
from the things I'm starting to

1345
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,800
find and read, I don't think
he's in line for any, any Nobel

1346
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:55,110
Peace Prize soon. Why? Because
there, you think it's a little

1347
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:59,190
shady. Yes. Very shady. You
know, once you get past the

1348
01:11:59,220 --> 01:12:01,890
handing out mosquito nets to
people, then there's, you know,

1349
01:12:01,890 --> 01:12:06,660
there's apparently in Seattle,
there are many, many office

1350
01:12:06,660 --> 01:12:10,680
buildings that you can't get
into, you can't get invited to.

1351
01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:13,680
These are laboratories working
for the Bill and Melinda Gates

1352
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,530
Foundation. There's no signage,
you know, there's just the

1353
01:12:16,530 --> 01:12:18,960
people who work there, you can't
meet them at their office, they

1354
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,870
have to meet you somewhere else.
And from what I understand,

1355
01:12:21,870 --> 01:12:25,860
they're, they're testing out
vaccinations in in Africa,

1356
01:12:25,860 --> 01:12:29,640
primarily, but it's not like
antiviral vaccinations. It's

1357
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,690
like DNA changing shit. So
they're, they're experimenting

1358
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:34,170
on?

1359
01:12:34,650 --> 01:12:36,960
How do we know this is just
something else you got from one

1360
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,370
of your other friends? Yes,

1361
01:12:38,430 --> 01:12:41,460
yes, of course. So that's why I
said I'm investigating it. I'm

1362
01:12:41,460 --> 01:12:44,250
just giving you know, I'm not
giving you facts. I'm just

1363
01:12:44,250 --> 01:12:46,710
telling you what I'm hearing.
There's a apparently there's a

1364
01:12:46,890 --> 01:12:49,080
there's some whistleblowers out
there, which would be

1365
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,600
interesting to, you know, to see
if that actually, if anything

1366
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:52,440
makes it into the

1367
01:12:52,830 --> 01:12:54,900
militia. I was thinking if
you're gonna say I was thinking

1368
01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:58,080
that the whole thing was the way
to like, I wouldn't say it was a

1369
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,020
money laundering operation. But
I would say, of course, it is

1370
01:13:01,050 --> 01:13:02,670
moving money in

1371
01:13:02,820 --> 01:13:05,250
around John. No, John, of
course, it's money laundering.

1372
01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:09,120
It's not laundering, but it's
like, Turner, you know, he gave

1373
01:13:09,180 --> 01:13:12,030
a billion dollars to the UN,
whatever. I mean, it's all it

1374
01:13:12,030 --> 01:13:15,900
there's no tax on it. You know,
it's it's a whole interest

1375
01:13:15,929 --> 01:13:19,289
deductible thing ever delivered
the check? No, of course not.

1376
01:13:19,289 --> 01:13:19,739
Because it's

1377
01:13:19,740 --> 01:13:21,840
like the IMF or the World Bank
that first of all, there's no

1378
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,870
money. You know, it's like,
Okay, here's my computer entry.

1379
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:28,860
Now, you can change it over
there. I mean, please. But it's

1380
01:13:29,190 --> 01:13:32,910
it. It's not like, you know,
you're giving away a billion

1381
01:13:32,910 --> 01:13:35,040
dollars and you're down a
billion dollars. That's just not

1382
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,640
the way it works. And it's over
time, and it's an annuity. And

1383
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:45,750
there's, it's a big tax thing,
no doubt about it. But Well, the

1384
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,740
thing is, that's and you know,
and I don't think Bill Gates is

1385
01:13:49,740 --> 01:13:52,950
evil, I don't know is I don't
know his wife. But it's

1386
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:57,060
probably, you know, you put
4060 $80 billion into the pot,

1387
01:13:57,060 --> 01:13:59,070
and you got all kinds of people
showing up and they can talk a

1388
01:13:59,070 --> 01:14:04,260
good game. And, and I think that
under the auspices of r&d, you

1389
01:14:04,260 --> 01:14:06,120
know, Gates is going to be
really interested in that. It's

1390
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:10,560
unfortunately, we're testing it
out on the African children and

1391
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,360
killing them.

1392
01:14:12,450 --> 01:14:16,110
I have a good friend who is in I
actually know a lot of people

1393
01:14:16,110 --> 01:14:18,360
there, but I have one friend
who's working directly with the

1394
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,850
foundation. He's an Africa
expert. He's always going back

1395
01:14:20,850 --> 01:14:23,400
and forth to Africa. So I'll
bring this up.

1396
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,000
And then please, please don't
use my name. Okay. Don't use my

1397
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:27,630
name. Just yeah,

1398
01:14:27,630 --> 01:14:29,790
I guess heaven forbid, no one's
going to know that you're

1399
01:14:29,790 --> 01:14:32,460
interested in this since we only
have 100 subs. By the way,

1400
01:14:32,460 --> 01:14:35,310
everyone out there who listens
to this show, please get one

1401
01:14:35,310 --> 01:14:37,200
more one more friend one friend.
So

1402
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,620
we can double two we got 100,000
listeners, we want to make it

1403
01:14:40,620 --> 01:14:45,000
200 And we had like 130 Min. But
we're gonna make it 200 Well,

1404
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:47,640
quarter of a million is what I
think is really something we

1405
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,340
should be able to reach and then
and then we then we gotta go

1406
01:14:50,340 --> 01:14:53,400
make some money. What about our
T shirts? We're gonna sell T

1407
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:54,030
shirts. Yeah, we

1408
01:14:55,620 --> 01:14:59,370
know what the promise is me. I
don't do enough work. So anyway,

1409
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,880
thank you. Finally that you know
what Ron Blum agrees on?

1410
01:15:06,690 --> 01:15:07,920
Depending on what day it is,

1411
01:15:08,339 --> 01:15:13,319
yeah, of course. So, anyway, the
point is, is that, you know,

1412
01:15:13,349 --> 01:15:16,259
I'll ask him, and it was and
then I've also got other people.

1413
01:15:16,259 --> 01:15:19,169
Yeah, I don't think so I don't I
think it's, you know, maybe just

1414
01:15:19,169 --> 01:15:22,259
a way of moving money around,
but I just don't see some, you

1415
01:15:22,259 --> 01:15:25,829
know, nasty weirdness going on,
you know, with Mr. Burns.

1416
01:15:26,699 --> 01:15:29,429
But again, this is this is not
nasty. I mean, it's not Bill

1417
01:15:29,429 --> 01:15:31,979
Gates, who has some evil plan,
but it's totally, you know,

1418
01:15:31,979 --> 01:15:36,929
pharmaceutical or biotech, bio
engineering companies who, you

1419
01:15:36,929 --> 01:15:39,809
know, can you know, they, they
present a PowerPoint and saying,

1420
01:15:39,809 --> 01:15:44,789
Look, we can modify the human
DNA, so they'll now no longer be

1421
01:15:44,789 --> 01:15:48,299
susceptible to these illnesses,
or et cetera, et cetera. Hey,

1422
01:15:48,329 --> 01:15:50,849
you know, messing around with
people's DNA, man, that's heavy

1423
01:15:50,849 --> 01:15:55,439
shit. We'll see. Yes, we will.
I'm going to continue to do some

1424
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:59,549
investigation. And of course, we
have dropped.io/no agenda where

1425
01:15:59,549 --> 01:16:02,789
people are posting stuff pretty
regularly. So if you find any,

1426
01:16:03,089 --> 01:16:05,999
anything, any research paths
that aren't very interested?

1427
01:16:07,919 --> 01:16:11,489
Yeah, because the only people
who are going to save the world

1428
01:16:11,489 --> 01:16:12,299
is you and I John

1429
01:16:13,620 --> 01:16:15,840
has Yeah, that's it. That's the
ticket as usual.

1430
01:16:15,870 --> 01:16:18,270
We're the only ones that can do
it. All right, man. Unless you

1431
01:16:18,270 --> 01:16:19,110
got something else.

1432
01:16:19,290 --> 01:16:21,780
No, no, but I expect we'll have
a lot of stuff for next week's

1433
01:16:21,780 --> 01:16:23,580
show after the Palin thing. Yes.

1434
01:16:24,780 --> 01:16:29,160
And hopefully, we bring a better
perspective to the analysis of

1435
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:33,090
the analysis of these debates,
then, all these other Yahoo

1436
01:16:33,090 --> 01:16:36,210
shows. I get sick of that. I
know you watch them all, but I

1437
01:16:36,210 --> 01:16:37,710
just, I can't stand it.

1438
01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:41,010
And I've always get one or two
little insights, it helps me

1439
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:45,330
like to you know, think in a
different way. Yeah, I don't

1440
01:16:45,330 --> 01:16:47,190
agree with these guys
necessarily. But it's, you know,

1441
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,770
the guy really liked doing it
when he's on his Karl Rove,

1442
01:16:49,770 --> 01:16:52,440
believe it or not, has now I
know. He's really good. I mean,

1443
01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:52,890
I mean,

1444
01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:56,640
he's a stroke show business. He
understands this shit. Yeah. And

1445
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:56,700
of

1446
01:16:56,700 --> 01:16:58,530
course, he says one thing one
minute is something else. So

1447
01:16:58,530 --> 01:17:00,990
nice, but it's still really good
analysis and the other guy and

1448
01:17:00,990 --> 01:17:03,780
people out there that think he's
a jerk and whatever. I think

1449
01:17:03,780 --> 01:17:07,110
Rush Limbaugh is one of the best
deconstructionists working on

1450
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:09,900
radio today. I mean, he takes
stuff apart in a very unique

1451
01:17:09,900 --> 01:17:12,750
way. That is always kind of
fascinating. I mean, he's one

1452
01:17:12,750 --> 01:17:16,170
sided about everything, but, but
it's, it's really just like

1453
01:17:16,170 --> 01:17:18,750
watching a master. It's amazing.
That's why the guys makes the

1454
01:17:18,750 --> 01:17:20,850
you know, you got to contract
for $40 million. It's not

1455
01:17:20,850 --> 01:17:21,840
because he's a slouch.

1456
01:17:24,030 --> 01:17:27,930
Exactly. All right, so we'll,
we'll continue our

1457
01:17:27,930 --> 01:17:30,450
conversations. Are you gonna
pick me up? Yeah,

1458
01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:33,240
I'll pick you up at five. Oh,
really? We

1459
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:34,350
need half an hour to get there.

1460
01:17:35,610 --> 01:17:37,050
515 Okay. 550.

1461
01:17:37,620 --> 01:17:40,410
All right, coming to you from
the curry condo overlooking the

1462
01:17:40,410 --> 01:17:42,870
bay in the financial district of
San Francisco. My name is Adam

1463
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:43,350
curry.

1464
01:17:43,710 --> 01:17:45,990
And I'm John C. Dvorak here in
Northern Silicon Valley

1465
01:17:45,990 --> 01:17:47,880
overlooking the bay from the
other side,

1466
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:51,330
both of us in Gitmo nation West
this week. We'll talk again next

1467
01:17:51,330 --> 01:17:53,160
week, right here on no agenda.