Yeah, you're fully crap. Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak. On June 3 2012. Time for your gizmo nation media
assassination episode 414. This is no agenda, celebrating our
tungsten Jubilee here at Camp MoPhO in the capital of the
drone Star State Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and from
Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill.
Opening with a stinger. Nice.
Whatever it takes.
Wow, man, are we in the vacation period? Or what I mean, we've
got nothing but Diamond Jubilee on TV. And the crazy thing is
shows are off the Diamond Jubilee, which apparently you
can celebrate on your 60th year of top elitist. I mean, the way
I remember time it was 50 now diamond
is gold. 75 now
is gold 75 sentences that
had that that I'm practicing to be Erin Burnett. No. 50 is gold.
75 as diamond. It's a nothing 60 isn't even anything you know,
you're not supposed to get any thing at 60 They're probably
going on and on about it
to distract everybody. And the stupid slaves. I mean, I see.
You know all the reports. You've got all the reporters in England
it's raining it's the coldest day of the coldest spring day
ever in Europe today. It is raining is coming down in
buckets. And the stupid slaves are standing there with their
with their flags. Oh wait, I can't wait to see the old lady.
She's coming the old lady in her golden carriage
on that's why I didn't realize this was going on. I wasn't
obviously following the English stuff by every time I turned on
the TV, they had a thing on one of the BBC shows where we're at
Prince Charles discovered some old home movies made by the
shooting
shooting elephants in Africa. No doubt. I actually
just heard playing with him when he was a little little one year
old toddler. And it was actually kind of funny, but it was like
it is showing me this just
never ceases to amaze me how easily distracted people are or
maybe they're just like, so happy to have a reason to party.
I don't know it's it's baffling to me. Although I have to say
there's actually there is some interesting television going on
CNN has done something interesting for once. And now
that of course piers more on had to go back to the UK to
celebrate the the really the get arrested Queen lizard or you
might not even be there. So they had these guest hosts and that's
pretty interesting. Harvey Weinstein did did a guest I
wanted to see it. Yeah, it was good. And I saw Regis Philbin
with David Letterman. Outstanding interview I thought,
you know, I mean, totally on its inside baseball, I think very
uninteresting. For for the normal public be like who are
these tool guys. But you know, I thought, you know, that's
actually entertaining. I sat down like, Oh, my God, I
actually said to miss Mickey, I said, I'll be right there. I'm
watching CNN and I'm engaged. Can't believe it.
Yeah, let's because you have people that are somewhat
engaging, as opposed to Piers Morgan who just seems like a
stiff. Yeah.
But there is stuff happening, for sure. And I have to say, I'm
getting worried. I'm really getting worried that you know,
we've thought who was the who was the douche. Cass Sunstein
has named Cass Sunstein.
Cass Sunstein. Yeah, yeah, he said, Nagler,
right. He said, You know, we have to infiltrate these groups
and working from the inside. And I think it's pretty much
happened. At this point. There is the, and I see it on no
agenda, news network.com. I'm going to start clearing that up.
Because people have to have added a lot of still a lot of
these sites that aggregate stuff, and I like some of them,
but you know, you get like Activist Post. And so the way we
said No, Joe news network.com up is you can just add an RSS feed.
And the idea is you create a blog somewhere, add your own RSS
feed, if you find something interesting you post about it
shows up on the news network. And so I'm kind of battling
where people like, and this is a great source of news, though,
you know, every week there's a deletion of infowars.com It's
like, no, that's not a great source of news. That's an
aggregator of stuff. And it all has to be vetted. We got to look
at it. And then we still have a couple of guys like the dead man
and a WT I mean, they're really doing a great job and finding
stuff and posting on their own feed. And that but there's stuff
coming through that really has me worried this and actually I
watched some C span there was something going on this and
everyone's on top of this, the ITU, I'm sure that you read
about this. You read the story, the ITU, the ITU, what they what
did they do now? Well, so the ITU is the International
Telecommunications Union, United Nations outfit. And so there was
a hearing at on the hill, and the hearing was about, and I
remember I told you, you can, you could look it up in the Red
Book. I said, I can there's something weird going on at
ICANN. These are the guys who control the the internet names.
And indirectly, the the root domain servers. And, you know,
the previous shield just got retired. And he has all kinds of
stuff going on. And so Vint Cerf is on the hill. And he's
testifying. Because the the word is, and if you look at the ITU
website, they don't, there's no actual mention of it. But there
was an interview, I think, in Vanity Fair, of all places. Are
you? Are you talking to someone else? No, or maybe just some
feedback that the head of the ITU wants to take over the
function functioning of ICANN. And, of course, I'm against all
United Nations organization. So that's not a good thing. But
then when I just hear how this and this is the 30 seconds,
within the first 30 seconds of this two and a half hour, the
Senate testimony, I knew this thing was rigged. Listen to
this. This is the chairman. He's Greg Walden, Republican from
Oregon. Morning, I want to welcome our witnesses and
appreciate their testimony today. This is the Subcommittee
on communications and technology in our hearing on international
proposals to regulate the internet, nations from across
the globe, we'll meet at a United Nations forum in Dubai at
the end of this year, and if we're not vigilant, just might
break the internet by subjecting it to an international
regulatory regime, designed for old fashioned telephone service.
Okay, so the setup is there, I need to watch no further really,
it's like, okay, so we know what your agenda is, Mr. Chairman,
they're gonna break the internet. And the concept of
breaking the internet is pretty vast. If you really know the
technical workings of it. The only thing that can really be
broken, I think, at this point, is the domain name system.
That's what this is all about. So then, there's a lot of
testimony and Vint Cerf, who I would like to remind everybody
is he works for Google. Okay. He works for Google. Now, Google
has a stake in this. And I could play you clips of his testimony.
But I found the written testimony to be more important,
because I'm finding this more and more. Because there's a lot
of stuff in there that the they don't say, in the actual
testimony. But that but the real record is what their written
testimony is. And I just you know, I am you. I want you to
follow along and tell me if you think I'm off base here, because
I think something nefarious is happening. So he starts off with
this. Chairman Walden, Ranking Member Eshoo, members of
subcommittee, first of all, he talks about his you know,
there's his background VP, Chief Internet Evangelist at Google
Inc. I always want away from people with an evangelist title.
I also serve as a fellow for the the I II, and last week, he was
elected as president of the American Association for the
Advancement of Science. What do you know about that
organization? Is that anything valid?
I think it's a drinking club. That's
what I thought. And then here's something weird. If I would be
testifying on the Hill about podcasting, I can pretty much
guarantee you there's one thing I would not say, I would not
say, you know, I'm the pod father. I mean, do you think the
How does that sound? Would that sound kind of?
I love that. I'd love to hear you say that. On the hill. Yeah.
Don't you think people go like, what a douchebag? Oh, yeah.
Okay. Well, hearing his testimony. As one of the fathers
of the internet, and a computer scientist. I care deeply about
issues relating to the internet's infrastructure. I
found that to be kind of douchey. You know, you don't
think that's douchey
it's not it's not flattering? No.
Okay, so he's here to do in this testimony, which is only three
pages, the internet and the ITU. So he starts off, and that's the
subheading. After its inception as a US government project after
the internet has been decentralized to maximize the
effectiveness of open bottom up multi stakeholder approach. I
found that to be factually incorrect. Why? It was oh, it
was the concept of the internet. I mean, DARPA net was not the
internet. DARPA was DARPA net. The internet is decentralized by
DARPA. I'm sorry ARPANET by DARPA. DARPA inside. So that's
kind of a I find that to be a little misleading to say after
its inception. The internet has been decentralized. The Internet
is a decentralized network. And the only core protocol that
matters is TCP IP. Many multistakeholder organizations
have played a fundamental role in Internet governance and
evolution. These include non the nonprofit ICANN, that oversees
the handling of domain names. So now he's setting up the ICANN
and he talks about the Internet Society, which by the way, are a
bunch of elitist pricks. Now back in 92, all of this was
coming about, you know, we had the Internet Society, the EFF
and I tried to join these organizations and was shunned
you know, they wouldn't even return a call or an email. I
mean, have you ever decided on this drinking club the the ISOC,
the Internet Society?
No, no, but I You're probably right.
And I remember my domain name dispute with MTV, I went
straight to John Perry Barlow eff to like nah. Now we're not
going to help you because they're elitist pricks. For
example, although ICANN has representatives from all regions
of the world on his board, more international voices could be
added. So he wants to keep ICANN going. Because there's a lot as
we've already discussed in a previous show, I can probably
point to that one in the show notes. There's a lot going on
with ICANN there, I do not think they're kosher at all. But
here's the pitch that have been served. This is what I was
getting to. Quoting from him. We also need to work together to
create and refine voluntary develop codes of conduct. A US
based nonprofit called the global network initiative is a
great example. Ah, okay. And then he goes on to talk about
this. Je N ai, this is the one we've got to look at. And I want
you to go to global network initiative.org. So you could
take a look at who's in on this. And they have some core
documents, which I've of course read for so you don't have to.
And right here on their homepage. The whole thing is
about human rights, John, human rights, human rights in the
internet. And of course, there are only really three founding
members of this outfit, and that is Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft.
And they are planning to take everything over and that's why
Vint Cerf is out there shilling on the hill. Is they they want
the GNI to be the one that makes all the rules. And if you look
at who's on the on the Bois just look at staff if you if you will
the GNI staff and you can look at the board of directors. The
executive director here Susan Morgan, I wonder if you know any
of these people. Susan Morga. Morgan, British Telecom shill
the independent chair former right you're getting this global
network initiative not on the site, but I've downloaded the
wallet no just on the site itself. Click on about
and yes damn thing instead of loading it separately, which
says I've got this thing open. I just want to see what Susan
Morgan's messages. Yes, he's
got a message. Yes, she looks
like a Googler. She actually looks like well, she's a tear.
She's a big you got a picture of her. She looks like Sergei.
She might be in fact,
yeah, it was Sergey. This Yes.
Yeah. It's Sergey and drag. Okay, so Sergey and drag is
heading this thing off as obvious. But they just look at
all these people, man, these these are all elitist,
corporatist, who wants to control the internet. And that's
what this entire discussion is about. Is is not about. I mean,
of course, I'm against any United Nations organization
running anything for us. But what
I browse are locked up Dhobi Acrobat one or more PDF
documents are opened inside a web browser. If you exit Acrobat
now those documents will be closed. Are you sure you want to
exit and it says exit and cancel? I click nothing happens
I click nothing happens I click the little the X in the red box
nothing happens. I click on do not show message again. It
doesn't click now. I'm screwed.
I'm sorry.
Okay, well, let me just Ctrl Alt Delete.
Will that break our Skype connection? Are you going to go
away?
No, no, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna hit the I'm gonna hit the
Wait a minute. Oh, what happened? Oh, finally came back.
Nevermind. Okay, good. Okay about
us. Right? Just look at these people, board of directors.
These are the people you need to be afraid Don't be afraid of
actually gotten quite good at finding these obscure websites.
I don't know why these people, they should just shouldn't put
anything online. So you got Steve crown from Microsoft. I
don't know any of these people
know. But you see the three I mean, the people who are running
this Microsoft, Yahoo and Google.
Yeah, there's the the ICT companies, the independent
chairs, German Brookes,
yeah, that Price Waterhouse Coopers guy but then bean
counter Yeah, civil society organizations Human Rights Watch
Center for Democracy and Technology Committee to Protect
Journalists human rights first. And we know as we've discussed,
whenever someone is touting human rights, it's probably
being used to shut you up one way or the other. Human Rights
my mic, but
once you get to where you got the Human Rights thing, well,
this is a board of directors board of directors I'm looking
at it says the board is comprised it doesn't see
anything about human rights on this page, scroll down civil IR
five civil society investors academic academic following
member serves that alternative board members NGO alternatives,
company alternatives Google Microsoft, yet the same people?
Yeah, the academic alternatives and worse human rights.
Up at the top there civil society organizations.
Oh, oh, human rights rights watch right up guy
center for democracies and Technology Committee to Protect
Journalists human rights first. And of course, they're all it's
all about human rights, human rights and their whole I mean,
what does the internet really have to do with human rights?
Nothing.
But the network?
Yeah. But they're going to be using
human rights about Windows eight, Windows eight Human
Rights Initiative.
Is that is that really exist? No. Mind? Yeah. So but what's
happening is, is everyone is focusing now on this itu. And
oh, it's horrible. And Meantime, they're slipping in this global
networking initiative. And it's going to be run by some
corporations instead of what initially was intended to be
good was the nonprofit I can I you know, I have big questions
about that, as you know. And at the end of the day, I, you know,
we're really only talking about who controls the Domain Name
System. I don't really think, you know, this is my my own
theory. I don't think anyone can control the network, the TCP IP
network, because if they could we don't we'd already being
taxed. We know Will we be no access without paying extra? I
don't I think that genies out of the bottle. And so I go break
the domain name system, something else will be rebuilt
in its place? Well, you always
go with the direct connections to the IP addresses. Yeah, well,
yeah, no, of course, that's almost going to be impossible,
because as of today, VP six is, is up and running. It's supposed
to be replacing everything
is that. So who's running? Who's running ipv6? Why I'm not
running ipv6, am I? Probably no.
You might be surprised. Almost every routers got a built in. I
didn't know you'd have to take a look at your IP at current IP
addresses. But if it's really long and weird, which by the
way, makes it impossible to do direct IP addressing instead,
you know, nowadays, you could if you'd lost your domain name, you
could put an IP number in there. And it's pretty, you know, what
is it? Well,
I just did, what's my IP address? What's my IP dot,
Oregon? It's just a regular number. So it's
supposed to be up and running. Yeah. Right. Okay. So when they
say,
but you understand my point that the issue that I said, the real
problem that I have is that the alternative news sources start
freaking out about the wrong things and they're being
indoctrinated. In this case by Google. Google is really not
your friend. I'm just not buying that they're our friend.
Particularly not when someone gets up there and says, I'm the
father of the internet, do what I say.
Yeah, well, I
think you need to be a little careful about stuff like that.
Definitely.
And when the when the student gets up there and says, yeah,
they're gonna break the internet. Yeah, break the
internet. And no one calls them on it. Excuse me. It's kind of
bullcrap. While you're saying they're breaking the internet,
but if you break the DNS system you've brought, for all
practical purposes, you broken the internet. Well, I don't
think that's on and that's been the fear of icon all along it
these days to brainwash me with lectures about once every couple
of years, they fly me down to San Diego, or wherever it was.
They have their offices in the Southern California somewhere.
And then they moan and groan about how the Russians and the
South Africans and Brazilians and all these other douchebags
went and Saudi Arabia want to get a hold of the internet so
they can screw up the Don't screw it up to keep themselves
in power. So they don't deal with it. And then they and they
sent and the backstory is that they don't know how DNS works,
they're going to screw up DNS and break the internet. That's
yeah, that's what they're talking about. Yeah.
But we could, I mean, I have no doubt that if the, if the DNS,
the domain name system is gets gets broken, that something else
wouldn't emerge very quickly, when we have our own DNS server.
I mean, I know all of us are just like, Okay, we'll just
switch over to this, you know, there will be a start. I mean,
it would be a huge problem. We
have like a audience of 40. Well, that's only
10 less. So it's not, it's not a big deal. But, you know, we've
got to be careful, and you need a diet. A balanced diet of news
is what I'm saying. And you can't just be looking at these
places that are aggregating and saying, Oh,
we're wrapping it back around to the Dogen news network
complaint. That's good. Yeah. It's a ring.
It is a ring. But the best one, the best one. And of course, now
I'm I'm really awake. Now. I'm really looking out for this
Fukushima bullcrap that we talked about. So here's the
latest. And this and you know, now that I see all of these
stories aggregated, US Army General says the whole northern
hemisphere is at risk of becoming largely uninhabitable.
I like that. And this one's
propagated far and wide, John, it's all over the place. And
everyone's copying basically the same story. And so um, so I had
like, Okay, I gotta trace this one back. And of course, you
know, in this are quotes from that, that douchebag that we
already unmasked the, what's his name again? Well, listen, if if
the story starts off like this, according to a host of
scientists, nuclear experts and researchers, we are facing
exactly such a scenario. If you read that, stop reading any
further host of scientists, dire words like this chilling. So
here it is, according to US Army General, which is actually he is
Major General Albert and stubbled bind the third retired.
The situation is he know about it was part of a committee
study. Oh,
I'm glad you asked. He has a website. And because now if I'm
tracking these things back I gotta find out where it came
from. So I'll play you his his little clip, which is it's a
video clip and they've edited it where he literally jump edits
like blink, blink blink. But let's now it starts off.
Gentlemen, be very afraid. We have alternative news for you.
Mainstream media is covering this up. Very, very dire
situation, Fukushima. Now you see big nuclear clouds on the
screen. Listen to him. He's standing in his barn I think
outside this this is the intro music. Major General Albert and
stumbled on the third by the way, great name. If you add the
third after anything, it's like oh, man, he's been in this for a
long time. This is the guy. Major General Albert instable
buying the third Lipsky retired
in 1984. I know he's also known for his interest in parasitology
Don't be so not
US Army retired. I'm the president of the natural
solutions foundation. I don't don't go googling yet. I am
deeply worried about your health and the health of your family
because of the Fukushima disaster. My specialty is
intelligence. Intel I warned you of the dangers of the swine flu
vaccine. And you stayed away and grow. Thank you for saving me
Yeah,
cheese. I'm glad he's the one who
warned you of the dangers of GMOs, the genetically modified
organisms. And now today there is a powerful movement to get
them out of our food supply.
Thank you General Major General and tired off of this planet. So
while this is playing John go to low enemy. I
want to throw another little tidbit in here. Just go
to his website first. Gen burt.com Okay, hang on BRT,
general Bert not calm. Now I'm warning you of the greatest
danger to your health and the health of your family know God
and human history and the four simple steps the guys can take
for your family and your health. The situation is frankly, quite
dire, dire. And that's an underestimate. underestimate
your email now so that I can send you my vital and lifesaving
estimate of the situation, free of charge free of charge. Thank
you. You're all gonna die.
Okay, so this is the guy that was was the staring at goats
guy. Oh, really? Yeah. He said he says he was proponent of
psychic warfare when he was in there. He's the one this this
guy involved in the unit US military project create a breed
of Super Soldier and have the ability to become invisible and
walk through walls. Stubble buying reportedly attempted to
walk through walls himself without success. Oops. So what
do we got here? Anyway, so
the I'm going through the network today. And every single
feed that I find that is posted this story is I'm removing.
Because this is this is the stuff. We've already discussed
the actual reports about Fukushima, and this guy is still
saying he or she was released as much radiation in the atmosphere
and Pacific Ocean is Chernobyl, the potential for disaster at
least 10 times worse. If there's another earthquake, the cooling
structures will collapse. This is this is not true. And by the
way, I lived in Europe when Chernobyl took place. I do not
glow in the dark. Really? Well let me just turn off.
Nothing to do with that.
But I remember all that cloud coming over Oh, the clouds
overhaul and we're all gonna die. did not die. And please,
when you want to debunk something through email, don't
email me a link to Wikipedia. Okay. That's not going to cut
it. I'm very interested in opinions and experts and people
who work in the field. Sending me a link to Wikipedia isn't is
not proof. And if you don't, and when we say when we call the
book of knowledge, that is men kind of with a wink just so you
know, in case you hadn't caught on to the show yet.
Yeah, well we we see the Wikipedia as a as a bunch of
facts that certain people put up many of them for political
reasons. Yeah, it's not a especially with stuff that says
contemporary it's not very good to know or good very accurate
now. We did have another one that came up and I think it
showed up on the no agenda news network which is the Sanjay
Gupta
was oh, what was that about fructose
and sugar.
I've got a lot of sugar stuff for you today. I did you ever
give a clip of him? Yeah, I
do have a clip I have. I this was a long segment that was on
60 minutes. And I only have this part of it, which is the guy
he's talking to some guy with some doctors and endocrinologist
who's making the claim that sugar is toxic this whole thing
was done to gonna kill you was was done to kind of soften the
high fructose corn syrup argument because the guy claims
even though you know, this is like he makes the claim that
sucrose or sugar table sugar is exactly the same as fructose.
Because Sucrose is actually two molecules jam together fructose
and glucose and it forms sucrose and it's uh, it you know has its
has its own characteristics. And it's not fructose, not free
fructose. But they make this claim to just to get us back on
the bandwagon. Oh, hfsc Well, here's what happens they start
off saying is toxic, toxic toxic, the guy's obviously
crazy. And the only thing you come up with you walk away from
this whole debate is well, the guy's probably nuts and and, and
also, high fructose corn syrup is the same as sugar, which is
bull crap, and play this clip and you'll see what I'm talking
about. Yeah, well, wait, wait. And also, to make it even more
interesting. They drop a Lady Gaga beam into it to kind of
really boggle your mind.
Bread, even peanut butter. And what about the manmade often
vilified sweetener? High fructose corn syrup? Is it worse
than just table sugar? No, because it's the exact same.
They are basically equivalent. Problem is they're both bad.
They're both equally toxic, toxic. Since the 1970s. sugar
consumption has gone down nearly 40% But high fructose corn syrup
has more than made up the difference. Dr. Lustig says they
are both toxic, because they both contain fructose. That's
what makes them sweet and irresistible. We love it. We go
out of our way to find it. And I think one of the reasons
evolutionarily is because there There's no foodstuff on the
planet that has fructose that is poisonous to you. It is all
good. So when you take something that's sweet, it's an
evolutionary Darwinian signal that this is a safe food. We
were born this way.
Oh wow, you know, NBC was on this bandwagon, but they took a
different track. They say sugar is as bad as tobacco
attempt to tackle this epidemic. This
by the way, is Mayor Michael Bloomberg outlining the sale of
16 ounce drinks in restaurants and theaters. Damak. We've
talked about Nancy of obesity in this country. Is this the way to
go about it? A very famous doctor, Dr. David Lustig at UC
San Francisco. He's so famous. That's the
same guy that was on 60 minutes. Yeah, exactly. He's
very famous
says that he was born that way.
Sugar is toxic, and should be regulated like tobacco. Oh, it's
rewiring the brain. It is not necessary for anything in the
human diet. I think it's a very bold, big move. And I have no
problem with Donnie, we
want local government telling us what we can and can't consume is
that you comfortable.
We complain that our politicians don't take stands and are
courageous. God bless this guy. You know, this.
God bless Michael Bloomberg, for telling us to sit down and shut
up point.
This is no different than tobacco, we sound obesity, we
solve the healthcare problems. We got to do something. Yeah, of
course, every time you make a revolutionary move, there's
going to be some complaints, are they stepping over the
boundaries? I applaud, I applaud them
get rid of biscuits while you're at it. So there's, if anyone can
get a copy of this Saturday, New York Times, there's a
collector's page in there. This Saturday, New York Times has got
a picture a full page ad with Bloomberg dressed up as an old
Jewish woman making this claim that you know, they they're just
the attack ad against Bloomberg, I guess, obviously, from the
beverage industry. And it's quite collectible. Very funny.
Let
me let me play a couple of clips from an interview of Bloomberg.
And just to give you an idea, now, you know, this started, of
course, with smoking. And he's also going to make the tobacco
correlation where smoking is effectively banned in in New
York City. And I can tell you what's going to come next. By
the way, that's an obvious one. But first, let's listen to him
away
before you when you make your prediction is going to have
anything to do with the fact that none of these companies are
the people involved actually helped him get reelected and he
had to go to his own bank account in order to get his
mayoral job. And this is all payback said possible.
It couldn't be possible. I think, if anything, he's trying
to help out the movie industry by making people buy more than
one drink. But listen to the to the first clip here. This is the
Shut up slave moment from Michael Bloomberg. Well, the way
it would work is simply those organizations that were those
industries that we regulate, which are restaurants and movie
theaters and carts, they would, they can still sell 32 ounces of
the sugar drink to you. But they'd have to put it into
containers. And the idea here is you tend to notice he's saying
sugar drink. He's not saying high fructose corn syrup, he
says sugar drink, and he expands on that later and said eat all
the food in the container in front of you. If it's a bigger
container, you'll eat more. If somebody put a smaller glass or
plate or bowl in front of you, you would eat less. And at this
point, there's an epidemic in this country of people being
overweight. bordering on obesity, the number of
percentage of the population is obese is skyrocketing. In New
York City alone, the number of deaths from smoking has declined
so much and the number of deaths from obesity has gone up so
much. Those two are about to cross we're gonna and I don't
find that crazy, by the way, because ex smokers tend to grab
on to something caffeine and sugary drinks is a great
surrogate for smoking. So that doesn't surprise me I have more
deaths from obesity than from smoking. We've got to do
something about it. Everybody's wringing their hands saying
gotta do something well here is a concrete thing. You can still
buy large bottles in stores you can still still because that's
going to be next but still, but in a restaurant 16 ounces is the
maximum that they would be able to serve in one cup if you want
to order two cups at the same time. That's fine. It's your
choice. Go ahead and order to it's more expensive. We're not
taking away anybody's right to do things with simply forcing
you to understand that you have to make the conscious decision
to we're simply forcing you to make you
understand Yeah, this is this guy should be in Berkeley Now
listen, now listen to this
one because he's I don't know if you heard it. He said You know,
people will eat whatever's in front of them. While he has
science to back that up John actual listen Have this
and in schools. Are these now banned from schools? I don't
know. I'm sorry. That's the wrong ones. This one in this
case, it's really the public. There was a great study done
that people sitting in front of a bowl of soup. And as they were
eating the soup, unbeknownst to them, there was a pipe coming
into the bowl from underneath. And so the as they ate at the
vote kept getting refilled, and they just kept eating. And we've
all done that. That's just the way people work. They're just
stupid, stupid people. It's just the way it works. Stupid idiots.
You just eat like a hog. This guy is an elitist prick, dude.
Totally just
Bloomberg. Yeah, you're kidding me. It's just a new observation.
Okay, so here's the here's what I found it here's the meme he's
introducing and as it goes on to schools listen to this this mean
that he just keeps coming back to which we need to look out for
which is interesting
and in schools are these now banned from schools
a lot of cities around the country have no longer sell full
sugar drinks in schools you we sell on a diet drink so
aspartame good for sugar. But what is this for sugar Listen,
kids do tend to drink and endure disproportionate amount of full
sugared drinks for the average kid I think it's something like
three full sugar drinks at 12 ounces that you could not take
that amount of sugar and put it in a tea and get it to dissolve
much less drink it really miss amount of sugar and I will
really he's done some experiments full sugar drinks
and so it's not it's high fructose corn syrup. Coca Cola
is not sold in most places certainly not in New York City
with sugar so when you say full sugar drink I think that's the
code we've got to be on the lookout for
what do you think it might be a code for though try to making
high in Iran this idea that sugar and for high fructose corn
syrup is the same by the way the obesity the sugars has been
around for a long time we've been downing it since the you
know the forever and the obesity plague only if you look at the
curve because there's all these curves showed his sugar
consumption is going down like they said and high fructose corn
syrup consumption is going up and that curve of the of the
high fructose corn syrup going up is exactly the same as the
curve for obesity. And by the way, he says that obesity kills
more than tobacco How does it be set up people die from obesity
they die from some complication they don't die from obesity per
se and there's plenty of big fat people that are like 90 years
old
yeah name to Well, I
mean there's plenty
the guy is a shill and I think he's he's basically shilling for
a malt of anyone who will pay him to say anything but this
full sugar drinks thing that is clearly equating high fructose
corn syrup with sugar full sugar drink. It's not it's not sugar.
How about this or a new strategy? We're in a meeting
we're having our old or Relations meeting about So Adam
you know we don't did this this high fructose corn thing is
driving everyone crazy. We got to get it. We're obviously not
making the connection where everyone realizes that is what
we want them to realize, which is corn sugar and sugar. It's
pretty much the same. Hold
on a second. John, if you've got an idea, should I call Mike?
I got an idea. Like this. We're going to dissociate the two Ah,
so you have full sugar and that's bad. High fructose corn
syrup is not sugar. They say that they want to stay well.
Sugar so that's not full sugar. There's no sugar is great,
John, you're a genius. So we don't want full sugar drinks. We
don't want sugar. Sugar is like tobacco. It'll kill you. We want
high fructose corn syrup. You sir, are going to be a
billionaire.
How's that for a possibility?
I think it's I'm buying it. I like it. Here's a here's an
interesting flub, too, which I thought was kind of cool.
Just to make the point. This is 12 ounces of Pepsi. This is 20
ounces. And this is what would no longer be possible.
You can still buy it in the store. Absolutely. Nobody's
telling you just when you order a drink in a restaurant, or in a
movie theater, they would have to give you no bigger than a 16
ounce cup. If you want to have multiple ones. That's up to you.
We're not taking away anybody's right to do anything. All we're
trying to do is to remind you that this is something that
could be should be is not should be is detrimental to your
health. It should be oops, should be should should.
Shouldn't be detrimental to your health.
I'm sorry,
I didn't mean to say that. I like your theory. I really like
that. And it fits in with what you had from a Gupta and from
the NBC panel, led by Matt Lauer. There Just like tobacco
is gonna kill you. We don't need it sugar bad bad bad bad science
will help you. And by the way, you're so stupid, you stupid
slaves. That if we put a bowl of soup in front of you and we have
a tube there and we keep feeding it, you'll eat. Eat until you
die. You're so stupid minded
of the Irish joke.
What's the what's the iris joke
Irishman finds a bottle rubs it a genie comes out your dreamy
Genie says your wishes. You've just released me from the bottle
you've got three wishes. And the Irishman says well that's great.
And Jesus What wish number one would you like? And the Irishman
said well you know it's it's hot. I've been working all day I
could go for a Guinness and the genie says I'll go you one
better have this Guinness and he puts a Guinness boom shows up.
The Irishman drinks, it puts it down it fills itself back up
Irishman it goes wow, he drinks it puts it down and fills itself
back up. And the genie says What would you like for you other two
wishes in the Irishman says I'll have two more of these
no offense to the Irish who I think are actually pretty cool.
And well there's
there's a lot of news. Financial News that is coming out of
Ireland and elsewhere. Especially the EU. Yeah, and it
doesn't look good. And I think we should take a break and thank
our two executive producers before we
Yes, it's we've clearly June Gloom is upon us. And nobody
listens
to the show on Sunday, which can't
handle the seesaw. You know, it's like we get great on
Thursday and then it's like a gut punch on Sunday. If you just
even it out a little yeah it's like you know like a donkey
punch almost donkey punch Do you know what a donkey that is?
Sure. John just Google donkey punch my friend
Donkey punch
the chat room is gone like
it's just sexual practice known as during donkey style sex
especially anal reading practice involves did it a punching the
part of the back of the head oh please
that's exactly how I feel I got done donkey punched Yeah, I
can't believe you and Mimi haven't tried that one out
so anyway, let's thank our two executive producers before we
get Louis started losing listeners beginning with our we
have two we have one executive producer one associate
executives yet Yan coleoptile pain pain, I think. What do you
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Yong Chol. Yeah, painter. Yong Chol, your painter. So what I
would say yeah,
yeah, with a Dutch accent. Okay, he's drunk, so I have to read it
as if it's 507
you have to do a drunk German accent now it's a little harder.
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I like the vaginal moniker. I like that. I think that's good.
Sounds like a product. Yeah.
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Chris looks like if he wants to know what everyone that everyone
knows what he looks like. But he's a he's a cyclist. And he
has made this custom cycling outfit now you know, these are
the is what Lance Armstrong would wear. And it's actually
it's really cool looking. And you can order them online that's
through a company called eclipse cycling.com And I've put the
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think we get any Benny's from it but he says his great way to
propagate the formula he just basically uploaded these designs
and now you can you can buy the gifts you know the skin type
kind of outfits and that's what
I wear
yeah
you got no agenda no agenda hyenas but so as to when you're
hunched over cycling on your 10 Speed everyone's like looking at
no agenda when they see your ass but it's kind of cool it's I
think it's a good promotion all these guys are filled with the
with stickers and promotion and stuff. This looks really really
good. So if you're you know this is all part I guess of our no
agenda racing team initiative. So we have motorcycles we have
we don't have to confirm yet but I think we have someone in the
Mustang class which will have a car and now we have bicycles. So
this is good we need a boat and we need one of those Red Bull
planes. And then I think anyway just another way you can go out
and do something extremely important you all can always try
to propagate our formula. Our formula is this we go out hit
people in the mouth
come on Kenny's you know you want to say it and you know
people can go to dark.org/banners and pick up a
like a one of any number of banners and put it on your on
your blog or put it on someone else's blog or Yeah, put it on a
hat. Or you can by the way, by the way, repost our show. I wish
people would do more of that.
Well, you know, Arsene nomics does a lot on on youtube I like
what he does. He'll he'll clip something he likes from the show
and then he'll do a screencast you can look them up on YouTube
arson omics good guy. And John, lest I forget happy LGBT Pride
Month.
I didn't know was LGA. What about LGBT Q i whatever it is.
Therefore, I Barack Obama President United States by
virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution, the
laws the United States do hereby proclaim June 2012 as Lesbian
Gay Bisexual and Transgender Pride month
they have a month instead of a week. So I wanted to talk about
I was at the office the officer Meteos Yes. And the Bravo people
are doing a
you're finally on bright Zelos how almost
so the Bravo people are they're doing a reality show with the
Sarah Austin is one of the players what's the show? I don't
know it's called Silicon Valley Titans are some some some stupid
that's Bravo
I thought there was like a CNN series
Yeah, this is this is the bravo bravo one you can look it up but
let me look fine. I'll do that you
tell the story I'll look it up
it's so apt anyway, so they're gonna they're shooting this and
they've she's in there doing some so I got to I got in one of
the acts. I got one of the bits I
just sign off on it. Did you have did you have to learn the
script for this reality show? No,
no, they don't. They will this these things are non scripted. I
mean, that's the way they work. But what they do is they have
you do stuff over and over. And then they film. It's what I
thought was interesting is that film crew is huge. They're like,
at any given time, there's three people with cameras rolling
around shooting everything they can and then there's another two
or three.
Now this is, this is Randi Zuckerberg.
Yeah project versus the one. Zuckerberg daughter, sister
Sister. Yeah. needs the money. She has a bunch of stock, so
she's probably a billionaire. Anyway. So they but I was
interested in the in the process, and so they have lots
of cameras, and then they have this unbilled, this one guy
who's just the sound guy who hides microphones on people and
around you and you will never see these mics. A guy's really
good at it. So the mics are all hidden on everyone. You got a
mic? I'm sorry.
Did you get a mic?
I was miked. I didn't get to take a mic
hold. That don't mean that. You might Yeah. Yeah, it
was my did you take it home? Duck out you soon as you're done
with your bid, that guy runs right over and grabs the mic,
because I think people try to sneak out of course, there's so
many of them. He's got this big. It's really interesting, because
the guy's got a big bike, a backpack size thing in front of
him. Yeah, a mixer with a huge mixer huge, with things sticking
in and wires like about 20 antennas. And it's just as the
guy I'm surprised he doesn't fall over because of this thing.
And he's sorry, is adjusting stuff. The director has got the
whole thing is a wireless operation. All the cameras are
hooked to they're all filming at the same time. So for all it's
all posted, so it's all being recorded. But they're also
wirelessly going into a monitor that the director has. He's been
here. He's making a handheld looks like an iPad. He's making
a rough cut right there as you're going. Right? Yeah. And
he's and he's and he's got a little microphone right about a
quarter inch from his mouth that he whispers into live camera
five over too soon and move it to move camera to move forward.
Now get that shot to that guy over there. And so you can see
but you can't really hear him you'd have to go right stand
right next to him to hear his direction, but he's directing
the traffic and then there's one another guy with a big boom mic
with the you know, the overhead thing because not everyone's
miked and somebody was jumping out of the blue and this guy's
got to run over there with the boom mic and hang it on the
gross and right it was actually kind of interesting to watch it
was very
slick now that you propagate the formula
I had my no agenda dirty on said no agenda in the front.
Don't you understand? Here's what no no, hold on a second. Do
you ever watch these shows they blur that outman
know the guy came up there? They they guy came up and asked about
it? And I said no I own this. This is minus public domain. You
don't have to blur it out. It's not a it's not any
real. See? I bet you 10 shekels I don't end up on the route
pictures on the wall. They blur out everything. They're just a
blur. I love the blurred
out they blur it out. So anyway, but I did my best because I
wasn't even gonna go into the office of somebody so they're
shooting I said, So I grabbed the no agenda shirt and ran in
there and then threw myself into one of the bits. You're such a
hero. Because I am. I threw myself into one of the bits
because I was watching it. I said these guys. This none of
this is gonna get on the air. These guys suck. They suck we
the people in our groups suck. Yeah.
Let's let's get the trailer here from Bravo for this fantastic
show called Silicon Valley. Let's see if we get it without a
sorry. We had to get a commercial first. Yeah, the
internet is doomed. And it's not. There's not Vint Cerf it's
the commercials. That's what's doing the internet. Adobe Flash.
Adobe Flash is killing me. Yeah.
So it's called Silicon Valley. Who they have on here anybody
interesting.
I've never heard of any of them.
No, the Randi Zuckerberg is the biggest name on it only because
Randy suck just call it Randy suck. Okay, I'm a Randy's Bravo
has the show's love. And this year we're giving you five more
that you won't want to miss. Come on the fabulous. New Series
York City is the only city I was living in these seven chic women
are taking New York City artwork. This is the this is all
their new shows. Yeah, you might just kill it. Yeah, I think
we've said it. But it's apparently there's another crew
in town at the cheese place at the Ferry Building and they took
up they bought a big giant, giant thing of cheese. You know,
it was giant wheels, and they use it as a gimmick to roll it
down the street, which apparently irked everybody
because it's just a waste of good cheese. And I don't know
what they're up to. They
rolled cheese down the street. Yay, man. I got a great idea. A
new show.
Yeah, yeah. I think most of this stuff doesn't get on the air.
But anyway said I didn't get paid, so I wasn't gonna go
back. No, of course. Well, that's the beauty of these shows
you don't get paid. Yeah, that's the beauty of it. Well, great,
John. So we're gonna see, like you walking in the background.
The guy with a huge unit will have you potted down, and you'll
be wearing a blurred shirt. And then and the VoiceOver will be.
Here's the voiceover. What's it What's the girl's name? In the
sheriff Austin tear Austin. For some reasons here, Austin's
grandfather showed up walking around aimlessly. He has
Alzheimer's pay attention to him. You want to make total fun
of us with these shows? Do
Yeah, well, I just got this shirt on. I'm going for it.
There Austin's grandfather.
Now you're amusing yourself.
I am. Sorry. I'm sorry. I can't help it. Hey, okay, now let's
get to some serious here.
I am like the collapse of Europe.
Yeah, go ahead. Hit me with the collapse of Europe. Well,
there was a point well hold
on a second we if we're gonna do the actual collapse of Europe
then let's do it properly. Euro
proper. So there was so Paul Krugman is on the road. He was
on PBS. And he wasn't in the Nobel if he flew himself to
London to do news night as the
Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman.
Yeah, who we have we think is sketchy, but he definitely has
nothing good to say about what's happening. And there's a couple
of I got some clips. Some of them are a little long, but play
there. They're all bad news.
He's promoting his book, of course, which is, what's the
name of it. But
seriously, they never mentioned the book.
He's dumb as what he is that he's pretty he's on a book tour.
That's why he's over there. He's promoting his book.
He didn't he got he got a he got screwed. We have played Krugman
on Greece. And we'll get we're just it's just the beginning of
the gloom and doom Oh, I'm
sorry, I had the wrong one queued up Krugman on Greece,
here we go.
They want to live through, it's going to be awful. If Greece
exits, it's going to be awful, at least in the short run. The
trouble is that the situation for Greece is hopeless. And I
need that in a quite literal sense. Onto the under the euro,
there is nothing on the horizon to suggest any recovery ever.
We're looking at extremely high unemployment extremely being
shut out of the capital markets as far as the eye can see. And
while an exit would be terrible, there would be you can see how a
recovery could happen afterwards. And I understand
that nobody wants to bite that bullet. Nobody wants to take
that decision. Which is why I think it's actually the decision
will be taken out of the hands of the politicians. It will
simply happen. Yeah, in this depression now
is his book.
Yeah, well, this is what his just pitches so he so here he is
about what
is that I didn't understand the pitch. What is he actually
saying?
He's saying that there's, he's saying, well, he but he's
actually saying what Farraj is saying, which is they should
just kill this thing. Kill this thing while they can. It's dead
already. Okay, he basically wants to kill the whole EU. But
he doesn't come out and exactly say that. But if you play the
play Krugman on news night, and that you'll get a better feeling
for when
I when I think about Spain is that for 10 years, they were
seen as the golden boy of Europe, wonderful place. Now
it's safe because it's part of the Euro zone, money flooded in
a lot of German Landis bonds and lending to Spanish cars, which
made loans to fuel the huge housing bubble, a lot of
inflation, they get uncompetitive, then the bubble
bursts. And now how do they get back to being competitive?
Again, the current strategy is that they should cut their wages
and somehow do enough austerity to pay that debt. And it's
impossible. The demands being placed on Spain are impossible.
If Greece exits, then everybody says it's impossible money
starts flooding out of Spain, and then Europe has a choice. So
what's the choices? Well, the choice I think, actually can and
I seem to agree, first of all, the credit has been made
available, that's be completely open ended lending so that as
people pull their euros out of the Spanish banks, the banks
don't collapse. So there has to be a basically unlimited supply
of euros from Frankfurt, and they've handled it well, yes,
but it's going to be debt to the banks to the to the European
Central Bank, but that's temporary, we hope, because if,
if the panic stops and the money comes back, but you also have to
have some inflation in Europe so that instead of Greek instead of
Spain having to cut its wages, at least not It's not solely
through cuts and Spanish wages. Instead, we're going to have
rising German wages, which is a much easier way for Spain to
become competitive. But all of this means a tremendous change
and the German vision of what their policy is going to be look
is gonna look like it's going to be, instead of punishing the
debtors and having price stability, they have to have
something that is much more liberal in a way they have to
have a party
camera. We've, we've been saying this stuff for five years, where
can I pick up my Nobel Peace Prize?
I know we have. So yeah, but the Juba does funny that I was
watching this stuff. And I'm just I'm just kind of shaking my
head because I know that, you know, Merkel is not going to do
cheap Germans, you know, where they started, tightwads are not
gonna have any, you know, I mean, just doesn't you do not,
they're not going to do this. They have the opportunity to
take over the whole place, and they just won't do we say this
week after week. But now it's getting to the point. According
to Ed, for you play all these games, you're not going to do
that. But Krugman actually says at one point, that we got a
matter of weeks to take care of this problem, because what's
going to happen is that he says there's three $3 trillion in
foreign money in the Spanish and Italian banks that don't just
that money's just gonna get pulled out immediately,
especially once Greek defaults the Greek Steve Yeah, yeah, so
it's gonna go into just a game because the Germans religious is
gonna don't pull back and just say, Well, hell with it, maybe
we can buy cheaper down the road here as these companies as these
countries just collapse?
Well, I just find it all incredibly entertaining to
watch. Well, I really do.
It's, it is very entertaining.
And and, and what did they expect? There was actually
someone sent me an article, the member pin 14. Yeah, Professor
PIM who would have become the Prime Minister of the
Netherlands had he not been assassinated two weeks before
the election, his party won posthumously. Of course, that
was a disaster. But his party won nonetheless. And the country
was really behind this guy. And it was an article he published
in 1996. In Elsevier magazine, he was a columnist for Elsevier.
And he literally, and it's, it's a Dutch article, someone sent me
a scan of it. He literally said, you know, here's what's gonna
happen. We're gonna get all this money, and you know, the bubbles
Gonna, gonna burst and then there'll be no way to, you know,
to get out of it, because no will be able to inflate their
currency. It's gonna be disaster, the technocrats will
take over and the whole thing's gonna come crashing down. And
coops, in hindsight, he was pretty right. You know, he's
only he's known as the Dutch LePen and all this stuff, but he
called it exactly. Which makes me want to be a little cautious
about what we call exactly. You got a couple of bullets to his
head.
Yeah, well, he had a different profile, though. We do. We talk
about flying saucers. More of
that? Let me put that on the list. To have more fun more
flying saucers? Yes, indeed.
Do you want to play one more? Clip Krugman to the euro has had
it, I think summarizes what we've been saying. But I think
now that is, we have our guy, or New York Times guy confirming it
along with a Harvard economist who's also on this show. Ng,
it's also about not wanting to have an open wallet and open bar
for the rest of Europe and perpetuity, they'd like to have
some rules. I'd like to have some mortar. I'm not saying what
they're proposing is is necessarily nearly the end of
things. I really think that the only way this is going to end is
either Europe starts to look like a real country. And I mean,
France and Germany are part of the same country with a central
government with a lot of taxing power, or it splits up. And
unless they start moving that way, enthusiastically soon.
I don't think anything's gonna stabilize the situation.
Well, I hope Ken's wrong about that, because if that's the
case, then then it's over. It's not because this could happen,
but only very slowly. I mean, I've actually done some numbers.
I've actually done Ireland, Nevada, which not not the
landscape, but everything else looks remarkably similar. And
because of the way the US fiscal system works, Nevada is
receiving what amounts to defacto aid on the scale of five
or 6% of GDP from Washington. Try to imagine that Europe that
Germany would be willing to countenance a system where five
to 6% of GDP not in not in loans but an actual aid is given to
Southern European countries at this point. It's just not
conceivable so that's going to be that's generations work and
we don't have a generation we may not even have more than a
few months here go by that analysis the Euros had it Well,
I
I like Paxman, by that analysis, the Euros had it done is
everyone's just saying Mr. Krugman the Nobel Was it in
euros had it the Euro has had it Oh, that's very good and while
that's nothing nothing news to us, but it will be very
interesting to see and you know in the debate continues there I
follow get my nation lowlands because I speak of the language
and in general the slaves are just like whatever. Yeah, got a
new new reality show so all is good. Everything's everything's
new their
best grew at some point but but they're showing a lot of clips
from on some of these. outside the US news shows where they're
just people rioting all over the place. There's huge effect. We
have the even over in Chicago where the where he had large
groups of protesters, the Iraqi veterans.
You didn't see any of that. We
saw it on Democracy Now, which nobody watches. But it's really
doing they were throwing the into public
FFA, the Vietnam vets were throwing their metals on the
ground. Yeah, I have a clip of that. That was hardcore man.
And it went on for a long time, but it is mostly Iraq and
Afghanistan, veterans. And there's two things that came up
one of them is the is the crazy Global War on Terrorism metal,
which I didn't even know existed. But apparently
everybody gets one as soon as you join up, you get a metal
like a challenge coin, which is terrible. Yeah, but play play
this one clip. This is there were about 40 people that came
up to the microphone and said, I This sucks. I'm throwing my
metals away and they and then they threw their metals down the
street. I don't know what happened to them. But whatever
the case, I have a couple here on the deserter clip. Because
one of these women come up she says she says this deserter. And
then she says it's 40,000 of us and why I'm wondering, I thought
they would arrest you if you were a deserter and you're able
to return my metals, nailed the USA government and Israel need
to be held accountable for the war crimes genocide, torture and
drone attacks. On returning my metals.
Stephen lung, I'm a two time Iraq combat veteran, this metal
and dedicating to the children of Iraq that no longer have
fathers mothers.
nuclear, biological chemical specialists for a war that
didn't have any weapons of mass destruction. Like gave me
goosebumps right there. So I deserted I'm one of 40,000
people that left the United States Armed Forces, because
this is a lie.
My name is Steve from Campbellsport, Wisconsin. I was
a Ford observer in the United States Army for just under five
years.
That's, that's hardcore, man.
This goes on. Yeah. And of course it does. Of course, you
know, speaking
of metals. This was really really weird. What happened?
This was on the West Wing, West Wing Week. That's the President
Obama's reality show The guy there how you should see his
audio unit. It's huge. His unit, just a big as unit. And so this
this is to this happens on the I think the same day. First, he's
at the Vietnam War Memorial. And it's like he's campaigning. And
he's like, Welcome home. Welcome home. Welcome home. Thank you,
like, you know, for what, and then it goes straight into his
freedom medal ceremony, and one of the recipients was very
confusing to me. Welcome home. Welcome home. Welcome home.
Thank you. Thank you. I'll be
here all week. On Tuesday,
the President awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to
13th individuals who are deserving of our nation's
highest civilian honor. Okay, freedom that wonderful about
these events for me is,
so many of these people are my heroes individually. I remember
reading Song of Solomon, when I was a kid, and not just trying
to figure out how to write but also how to be and how to think,
in college, listening to Bob Dylan, my world opening up
everybody on this stage. I mean, how can you literally in the
same week of not the same day, be there say you're all heroes
of the Vietnam War? And then give Bob Dylan a metal? Did you
listen to the lyrics? I was anti. He was anti Vietnam.
Yeah, he was a total anti war singer. And it probably still
is, and I would practice he still, but what I got the thing
that I got out of this, this metal ceremony is that Bob Dylan
and some poet I believe, got all the attention. But then if you
look at the other people that actually got this thing,
including Madeleine
Albright, the shill of all shills
metal for what for killing people
for consulting on how to kill people. That's what she does.
She says she doesn't hold consultancy, she she consults
with the
Lucifer and then Shimon Peres, President of Israel, what is he
getting this metal for? This is for Americans, isn't it?
It's summer months, John, people getting you know, they've got
nothing to do, like, wow, what are we going to do? I know, do
some metals, as always cool. They
had a couple of posthumous metals, the guys are dead, so
they gave him a medal. William fauj is his folk, former
director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
who helped lead the the effort to eradicate smallpox. Okay,
well, John Doerr, who handles civil rights cases as Assistant
Attorney General in the 60s. What is he getting a medal for?
He's just doing his job. John Paul Stevens, former Supreme
Court justice, what's he getting the medal for? It's
just to placate you. I guess. It's like if you get a medal
that you can't be a douchebag anymore. That's where they
should be given us a medal. congrat Congressional medal.
Hey, John, why don't we take a little bit now back to real? I
have inside news from Hollywood. I thought I'd share with you. I
still
have the Hollywood whackers theme that we used to have.
Well, we haven't
had a whack. So you've been probably reading about this John
Travolta stuff? Not really know about it. You know about it?
That's what I mean. I
haven't been aggressively reading it. No,
of course not. So for those of you who haven't heard this on
the actual news stations, there's now three or four
different people have come out and said the men say that John
Travolta has sexually assaulted them. And I was speaking to I
have a few Hollywood connections left spoke with him the other
day, as I spoke with John Travolta, and now with my
Hollywood connection, okay, he's a talent manager. And several of
his clients are in the Church of Scientology. And you'll recall
that I met the former top PR people from the Church of
Scientology who are for all intents and purposes, hiding out
in in Austin. And so what is going on? He says, Well, it's
well known that John Travolta likes dark skinned men, you
know, brown skin he liked and then I don't think this is a big
secret. But it's you know, it's what it is. And it's always the
Celebrate open
would be ideal. Yeah, Cubans when he says, let's go get a
Cuban he's not talking about.
But he does talk. But that doesn't mean smoking. But yeah.
So via or if you just have a really good tan, either way.
It's dark skinned men that John Travolta likes, it's fine,
whatever, whatever he does in his bedroom, his business or in
his cockpit. And, but he apparently wants to leave the
Church of Scientology. And this and this is how Hollywood works.
And, and what is happening now is they have the goods odd. And
they have because, you know, your initiation into Hollywood
always happens at some crazy party. We have the lesbian order
of the Illuminati, where, you know, Miley Cyrus, and Britney
Spears and all these Chickies. And they all have to do some
crazy ass stuff. And they take pictures and they record it. And
so there's evidence it so they can blackmail you and ruin
quote, unquote, ruin your career. So he apparently wants
to leave the Church of Scientology. And they're saying,
Oh, really, you can't leave. And so this is this is just the
opening salvos of the real stuff that they have. And they're
doing this to persuade him not to leave. That's the inside
track that I have
now. Okay, well, it's kind of interesting. I
just thought I'd lay that out on you. It's entertaining. Yeah.
Meanwhile, I was outraged. And we have to analyze this. On
Thursday, the New York Times the paper of record, the Ministry of
Truth, told us how the President is deeply involved with the
drone program. He's got his baseball cards there. He's you
know, selecting who can die who can't die. He's got his kill
list. Now, two days later, we find out that he is waging cyber
warfare with this program, uniquely called Olympic Games,
which I'm sure there's a code there more reason not to buy a
ticket, because you know, if you want retaliation for the Olympic
Games, cyber warfare, which was Stuxnet, The New York Times not
being refuted, so let's just say it's true. The New York Times is
saying that the President continued On a program that was
started by George W. Bush, and expanded the use of a cyber worm
of a virus to wreck the creation of nuclear energy in the country
of Iran. And I'm outraged that this act of war is being propped
is being carried out by the Chief Executive without any
executive order, without Congress, its own executive
order, but without Congress saying go ahead and wage warfare
and if you look at the NDAA if someone does that against us, we
have now agreed by law that if a country wages cyber war warfare
on us we can go and kill them and drop bombs and drone them
whatever we feel is necessary. So it's a real act of war. And
there's no outrage there's not but I did figure out why it's
pretty
funny to watch this lack of you know, he's gotten he's he's
calling the shots on assassinations, which is
ludicrous. If you think about what else is he got? He's
watching basketball. He's definitely watching the NBA
Finals. And in between, he's going through these cars while
watching you know, somebody dunk the ball. She's kind of cute.
Let's not drone her and he's saying, you know, yes, she's a
little young. They leave her alone, but we'll keep her in the
deck. And then he throws a car rainy days go after this guy for
a rainy day and he promises fist in the air because he saw
another slam dunk by you know, somebody. Just a weird while I
figured it out. I figured out what they're trying to do. Now.
I understand and I heard the two NBC NBC shills
and be shills,
the NBA. NBA shills, Chuck Gregory, and the other chip,
chip, chip Gregory and the other Chuck, what's his face? From
MSNBC, I guess we'll see whatever. And they have a
discussion a minute long discussion, like Oh, of course,
and they actually lay it out for me. So I understand why this is
happening. This is all part of the scam pain. And the American
human resources are so dumb that we're buying into a checkup to
create implant computer bugs into systems running around
nuclear facilities. David Gregory is moderator NBCs meet
the present. David, I want to start with this because in many
ways, it's a it's a huge story. And on any other day we'd be
talking about on any other day, we'll be talking about it. But
you know, of course, we just kind of slip this is the US
government essentially acknowledging that it is at war,
but in cyberspace with Iran. Well, it's a huge story. And
it's a huge issue. You know, there have been warnings about
this now for years, about not only our vulnerability to cyber
attack as a new front in the war on terror, but also what the
United States and its allies have been doing to target Iran's
nuclear program, which have less to do with diplomacy, and any
kind of armed conflict and a lot more to do with what can be done
via computer viruses to attack Iran and apparently successfully
over the past several years to at least slow the growth of a
program. You know, what's interesting about the program is
that it's one of the two main programs that President Obama is
continuing from the Bush administration aggressive
decision to make on that front along with drones, which made
this Mitt Romney comment last night on CBS. All the more
striking when he was asked to grade the President's foreign
policy record. Here's what he said. What grade would you give
President Obama? Oh, yeah. So that's what that's why they're
doing
it. Oh, how nice How cute. Oh, I see what they're saying. I get
what they're after. They're they're through proxy. They're
giving George Bush and F. Yeah. And like, so what Yeah, wishes
but hasn't been around forever,
basically. So Romney, you're an idiot, because you're giving
Bush an F because it was Bush's program? Yeah. But in the
meantime, nice, dry. In the meantime, this is a complete and
utter outrage. And if you accept because the president and by
that Richard Stallman of all people, Richard Stallman, the
guy for open networks and for, you know, for free software.
He's saying, Oh, this is probably a good idea. The
president's doing that. Richard Stallman I condemn you. i You
are bein you are shunned from my world. Now. I had respect for
you. This is cyber warfare. You can't
there's no ways war. Yes.
There's no way you can you can condone that.
Well, the other thing is I find it and to encourage it. I think
there's there's a couple of things here that have to be paid
some attention has to be paid to the following. The Russians have
already the Kaspersky guys have already grabbed this thing. And
they've deconstructed it and they know how it works and
they've got the whole thing down. You can't really this is
not like a I mean, I think it's an interesting idea that you
could if you actually had a war and you declared it and you
started using these things to to
attack the AI that is different if you declare war. I agree. But
even if
you did it, then these are not bombs that when you throw a bomb
and it blows up the bomb is, you know, nobody's gonna do these
things can be grabbed and then turned around and get sent the
other way. Yes,
exactly. And now in the
Iranians, the Iranians are not idiots. And they have plenty of
people that can code like anyplace else. And they could
grab this code and just send it right back into our
infrastructure,
which is now starts to explain why everyone on the Hill was
freaking out about cyber warfare is because Oh, crap. Our
president like unleased his button. There's another one
flame, which if you read the name is the one I'm talking
about. Okay, well, it doesn't matter, because that is also
according to The New York Times article is also an initiative by
the Obama administration. No,
that's the one I think it triggered the whole thing. Flame
is no one
talks in the New York Times.
Is the old yeah, that's that thing's not a play Bama probably
one that the Russians grabbed. And that's the one that's Yeah,
we talked about in the last show. Yeah, I had the quote that
said, Well, it's everything you'd ever want, is a 20
megabyte file that's got everything in it turns on the
microphones, it does all these things. Well, you just gave them
to you just like giving somebody that plans to how to make an H
bomb.
But even better, if you think your president won't use I mean,
look at the drone program. We now have drones coming over our
own skies in the US. So they're gonna turn flame against the
United's the people of the United States as well. It's
going to be it's going to be everywhere. The lack of outrage
is what's just astounding to me. Astounding. Although there is
some blowback from from the left, I would say.
It's really pathetic when the left has to do this dirty work.
Yeah, let me see. There was a pretty good article, Forbes
actually had a good rundown. And some of the leftist publications
are calling him a psychopathic megalomaniac. Like, okay, I'm,
I'm down with that. That's that's kind of what I call him.
He is a psychopath. And he's worse than George Bush was a
psychopath. They're all psychopaths. Here we go. What
was this? I'm sorry, I can't find it that quickly. But you
know, lots of left wing publications are now saying,
Hey, hold on a second. This is out of control. But the American
public, and you know, when I hit with someone like Stallman,
that, that surprised me,
that surprises me.
Yeah, I mean, you know, cyber warfare, this is not how you
play. This is not the game and in our own laws in the National
Defense Authorization Act, if you know and the Cybersecurity
Act, everything that's being passed now says if someone is
going to wage cyber warfare and US will will hit them back with
bombs. Well, you know, people in glass houses Dude, don't do
this. This is not not good. And by the way, they were enriching
uranium. They say for this goes way back they say for for
nuclear power. So you're denying someone of their right to create
nuclear power. But the whole thing is effed.
It's not good, and it's not healthy, and it's gonna just
backfire. Because, again, I think it's just I think it's an
impeachment over the blueprint of all kinds of trouble.
But I think it's an impeachable offense for him to do this. It's
really
you don't think it's an impeachable offense for him to
drone an American without due process
course. But this is now we're talking our world now. We're
talking the interwebs the people who are smart are supposed to be
saying this is not okay. But the people who were smart are
saying, Oh, I tweeted this out. I said, I do not approve of my
president. Waging cyber warfare. The tweets I got back. He's
like, man, would you rather have Iran with nukes?
Yeah, that's what you're gonna have. That would be what I'd
expect you to get back.
I know and I haven't but I'm just so disappointed.
It's pretty pathetic now.
pretty pathetic.
It's pretty pathetic.
You wait this flame thing will the will will turn on you.
Oh, yeah, no flame is gonna be bad. I'm gonna have to talk to
my friends up in Nova Scotia who who deal with anti spyware
specifically, specifically Yes, stuff that you can install on a
machine and it's almost impossible for a virus or anti
virus software to find it, you know, key loggers in which is
this claim has got a keylogger not
for a second. Do I not believe that McAfee and all these other
companies are and this might actually explain the story that
we didn't talk about. The founder of McAfee, you know, he
has like a there was like crazy story that he's he's hiding out
he's running a meth lab 10 to one the guy has the goods that
McAfee is actually helping install this crap on computers
worldwide, and they need to get rid of him and certainly
discredit him before he comes out and says, Hey, you know,
that company that I started that everyone thinks is protecting
you and protecting corporate America? Well, actually, they're
helping the government put crap on the computers to spy.
Yeah, by May 2 2012, which is recent. Matt McAfee's property
in orange walked down Belize, which he hit where he had to
move was raided by gang suppression unit. The gang
suppression unit GSU press release stated that he was
arrested for unlicensed drug manufacturing and possession of
an unlicensed weapon. McAfee was allegedly in the presence of His
17 year old Belizian girlfriend. All charges were dropped and Mr.
McAfee is suing the bid LeSean government for false arrest.
Right? Yes. Does it sound like it's going in the right
direction for this guy?
No. So it sounds like a discrediting move, if anything.
So
more reason to load one distro of Linux and lock it down. And
lock it down isn't done. And somebody
the chatroom said no, that's me. isn't a bad idea
like it. But anyway, I have to say the good news is and I have
a clip of this. Luckily, our President is very fluent in
technology. Now you think that he's only a constitutional law,
scholar and professor, but he actually knows he knows his
stuff when it comes to technology. And I wish as much
as I hate this droning and the cyber warfare, I'm happy to know
that you he knows his technology. Let's get that done
right now. That means they're gonna be you know, if you got
$3,000 A year extra, that helps you pay down your credit cards
that helps you go out and buy some things that your family
needs, which is good for business, maybe somebody will be
replacing some thingamajig further further furnace, hey,
you perfect. The thingamajig
thingamajig. And under US tour RZ gets
thingamajig
I don't even know if he uses a computer. I mean, he his whole
life was spent on a Blackberry
thingamajig he doesn't need to move, I got a Blackberry and any
one of those thingamajigs effect
and you would have this vet Qudra character as this CTO or
CFO, whatever the heck he was. It was ridiculous. To me. It's
like he just didn't even talk to this guy guy. So anyway, I have
a little lighter clip,
why you didn't like my thing
was okay, that was pretty light. I'll save this one.
Save the light. Save the light until you for the thingamajig.
So play the Global War on Terrorism metal clip. And I want
I want to play this because I noticed this at the event where
all these guys are, you know, all these Iraq Veterans Against
the War. Iraq Veterans Against the War, had all been using the
same meme, which is now becoming an interesting one, because I
didn't think it was going to actually get out there. Which is
it's a global war on an adjective
on a weekly basis, and we're seeing other units do the same.
We can also see that when we entered a home, even if there
wasn't a terrorist there before there was when we left and we
were radicalizing the entire population just by our presence.
You're wearing a metal what is the metal for this is the Global
War on Terrorism metal, anybody who serves post 911 in the
United States military serves in the global war on an adjective.
What are you doing with it? today? I'm going to be turning
it back into the generals at NATO to demonstrate that I
reject the medal. I reject what it means and I reject any
affiliation with this war.
That's a very good one. I liked that global war and an adjective
which is what what it what it is, that's what it is
what it is, it doesn't there's no enemy. It's just an
adjective. And it's so happy. I'm so happy. There's also a
noun but anyway,
this is this enlightens me. It makes me happy to hear that
people are out there say calling bullcrap. Unfortunately, the
news diet you're receiving is not you know, you got to full
what does it call it? Full on sugar?
full sugar drink the full sugar drink. Yeah, so they this was a
pretty big gathering in Chicago with these veterans throwing
their their war on terrorism badge away. We're on whatever
else they had, and it was not covered in the lease and I
thought it would if I was doing the news. I mean, this one It
was actually kind of interesting that this was going on. But they
didn't there was zero coverage of this. Zero. No. No. And it's
like the riots that are going on in Spain. They showed some good
stuff, Spain's got a bunch of cops beating the crap out of
people in Greece has got a daily riots, none of this, we don't
get any of it. Everybody's just left into dark. And then we're
going to all be the public. Not that listeners to our show.
Obviously, we know what's going on. But the public at large,
which is the problem, they're going to be like stunned and
dismayed. How did this happen
without us knowing? So I wrote an interesting article, a blog
post the other day, that said, you know, the news diet, that's
why I'm using it the news diet that we get from television
news, and from ever anything really, mainstream news is like
junk news. And it'll, it'll make you fat and bloated and a mobile
just like junk food. And I think there's something really to it.
And if anything, that is what we do here is we provide you with a
healthy balanced diet. No. And are we are we really vegetables?
No. Sometimes we you know, we're hard to swallow. But it's
important. It's important that you get this and that's why
you're probably feeling good. Even though you're on the
surface. You're bummed out all this stuff, but somewhere deep
down under you actually kind of okay, shadow puppet theater.
This was a good one. You know, WebMD
Oh, yeah. That's the wisdom by the Netscape guy. Yeah. Jim.
Jim, Jim.
Jim. Jim, Jim slim, Jim. So when Ben WebMD is, I would say is
it's kind of the go to company for a lot of people go to
website if they want to look up when you know what they think
they have or what they've been diagnosed with. In fact, I was
watching that movie with Seth. What's the guy? The funny guy,
Seth MacFarlane, Seth
Rogen, Seth rose, Seth Rogen 50.
By the way, there's Seth Meyers Seth Rogen setback, but there's
a whole bunch more I can name about 10 of them. What is the
name? Seth. They're all the same age. It's kind of a wimpy name.
It's a wimpy name. But it's all they're all the same age.
They're all the same group. There's about six or seven all
in Hollywood all famous. Where does this name and this doesn't
exist after or before? So where did it come from? Or no,
no, we should look that up to the Seth Rogen movie 5050
Where's buddy gets cancer and, and you see him looking up this
horrible disease that he has on WebMD. So nice little product
placement there. So it's not doing too well. But of course,
if you look at WebMD if you dig under the covers, you'll see
that the people who are funding the company is Big Pharma. And
they're under pressure from the shareholders to bolster its
share price. They have now named Kevin M Redmond as its CEO, and
he of course is a senior executive at Pfizer. There's no
conflict of interest there. Wow. Yeah. Blatant, isn't it?
Oh, yeah, it's bad. Yeah, just
put the put the shill in charge of everything because then the
other guy doing no good. You gotta you gotta you gotta stock
report on the Pfizer
file. It can't be doing very well, at the moment. Let me
look. Take a look. I'm
not Pfizer I'm sorry. WebMD
web I'm doing this is uh, is public, I believe.
Yeah, absolutely.
Web MD health Corp. Web MD 2282. down little bit. Let's see what
it looks like long term. It was as high as 50. Yes. Down. It's
bouncing around the $23 level and it's just stay it's dead
money. Yeah. Dead money. looks dead money to me that took a
plunge around January 1 part of January was floating around just
under 40. And then just took a big knife wrong. Under a large
volume
just fell. Yeah, that's when they put him in. I'm sure.
This would be January 15.
The chairman of webmd says he has a successful track record in
identifying and leveraging new revenue opportunities, driving
efficiency, establishing sustainable growth platforms.
You know, that's what my career is built on. Sustainable Growth
platforms. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. But got to producer Vicky sent
me a new possible script on the HPV scam, which by the way, Miss
Mickey was at a doctor. And she was talking about this. And the
doctor said, you know, the whole thing is such a scam. This
strain, the so called strains that HPV fights against don't
even exist in the United States, which I have not been able to
verify. And it wouldn't surprise me.
I was just a real doctor. Was this your mirror? No. This was
not the Voodoo doc. Now this was a real doctor. So here my son's
doctor. This is a producer Vicki told my 18 year old son he
needed to get The HPV vaccine because, quote, the girls are
getting it and the guys need to step up and do their part. This
doctor is very reputable by him kicking myself for him getting
the series of three shots. He got the shots before we realized
there could be health problems. Just an FYI, we live in Maine.
Please keep the rest of my information confidential.
It's ridiculous.
How about that? The girls are getting it. So the guys need to
step up. Do your part slave take this expensive shot.
I have heard around the office. At least two women who got
there. I don't know I didn't bother following up because I
didn't think much about it. But they'd come back for after being
tested for cancer. And then I didn't think much about I didn't
think it was probably part of the same scam. But now I think
about I'm going to ask each one of them what the outcome wasn't.
I basically took it as stupid shot to drop 400 bucks on it.
Well, you know, you know the script by now. It's like, yeah,
with this script is a biopsy. Yeah. You go in, they test you
for HPV they give you a test. And from a machine that doesn't
work and gives a lot of false positives. You get a false
positive so they do a biopsy. Yeah, you just got to be painful
and dangerous. You freak out for a week because you're pre
cancer, you'll come back clean, but just to make sure they give
you a shot. Bend over. It's a great it's a great scam. It's
scary. Yeah, well, of course, we got a we got a nice letter from
one of our listeners, moaning about the fact that we're anti
vaccine vaccination when this is not true. And he said, you know,
just it was just like this horrible note that we get these
people that you have it, show the listen to one show, they
don't really get into what we're trying to do. And they don't
like us probably is one reason. I mean, we're not necessarily to
likable guy. No, at least not to everybody. Hold on a second.
John C. Dvorak states the over obvious. We're not likable guys.
Typically likable guys. And so if you're not like looking for
something, you know, CNN ish, from this show, which we're not
going to ever deliver. You get to get you listen to a couple of
things you get. Yeah, you're fully crap. Yeah. And you're
anti vaxxers. I mean, they got a nasty note about you and your
voodoo doctor.
Yeah. Oh, yeah, of course. Crazy. I'm not
well, while the you're not arguing that you're nuts such
that they don't get
no. The new study new research by physicians at the University
of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey. That's the UMDNJ for
you. The Robert Wood Johnson Medical School has not come out.
Surprisingly, John, surprisingly, individuals with
schizophrenia or schizo affective disorder, have a
greater severity of nicotine dependence, and therefore
require a more potent treatment plan than the general
population. When it comes to Chantix usage. It is considered
safe and effective treatment for helping people with
schizophrenia to quit smoking. That's the funniest thing I've
ever heard. People who aren't schizophrenic go nuts on this
drug. And now they're saying you just need to up the dosage.
That's okay. Because you're schizophrenic. So, don't worry,
you'll stop smoking. I mean, you might go around killing your
neighbor's goat in your underwear. But you'll stop
smoking. This is the pharmaceutical industrial
complex, I should say pharmaceutical educational
industrial complex, which is just out of control. That they
get paid for this research to say it's safe if you know, we
know people are wigging out. And how many how many people have we
had email into the show? Say, oh, man, I'm so glad you guys
told me to get off that stuff. Because I was freaking out.
Yeah, we're not given medical advice. By the way. We're no no
no lating anecdotes.
That's exactly right. And speaking of anecdotes, Fareed
Zakaria, global global shill of the New World Order, hangs out
with President Obama all the time drinking some root beer. He
did the commencement speech at Harvard. I guess he's a
heartbeat
really sunk to the bottom. What they bring that clown in there
for
well, he actually was quite entertaining was clowny he was
pretty funny and had a couple of good zingers, good lines. He
didn't get to wear a crazy Cape though. I thought that was kind
of lame. If you're gonna do
want to wear the cape. He could have worn the cape. You can wear
the cape, I don't think I don't think they gave him a cape. He
didn't wear it
while he was in a suit. He wasn't wearing it yet. I know. I
think you know, if you've got to do the commencement speech, at
least get the cape but the big shoulders and like the
International Criminal Court can don't have white thing that's
cool, you know, big ringlets. No cape. But luckily, luckily
Fareed Zakaria can tell us that science has saved the world.
We forget our successes. In 2009, the h1 and one virus broke
out in Mexico. Now if you look back at the trajectory of these
kinds of viruses, it's quite conceivable that this one would
have spread like the Asian flu of 1957 or 1968, which cost 4
million lives. But this time the Mexican health authorities
identified the problem early shared the information with the
World Health Organization, learn best practices track down where
the outbreak took place, quarantine people vaccinated
others, the country went on a full scale alert. In a very
Catholic country, it was not allowed to go to church for
three Sundays perhaps more importantly, you couldn't go to
a soccer game for three weeks but the result was that the
virus was contained to the point where three months later people
asked what was the fuss the sciences in
what was the fuss that's right science saved us for read
wow amazing just make it up as you go along. Yeah, all of us
you know millions are not using the scientific method to give us
this thesis that's for sure he's just Lavabit bla
millions of people could have died more millions millions
millions I tell you about thank you so much like
save jobs you know saved or created saved or created but
they dropped them I'm gonna
show my mood by donating to no agenda Imagine all the people
who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
aliens could have died all right, just a few people to
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Well do I have to I have to play the Oh yes. It's a slow day. We
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And even though we didn't have a very good turnout today, we did
have the continuation of the 6969 meme from Salt River studio
in plantation Florida. It's this is the Jamaican in Austin. Yeah,
this used to be the Jamaican in New York and I got to meet this
guy. He's an Austin now
he said Jamaican. I know his yonder lists for birthdays.
Hold on, let me double check that
probably no, no, no put him on. But the Jamaican and Austin
birthday. It's his birthday today. So I'd like a war on
chicken Huntsman karma. All right.
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it breaks by the way, when the chain is broken, we're no longer
accepting 6969 donations. We're just going to call it 70
Okay, withdrawing the extra penny.
It's a little more than a penny but yeah, we'll call it a penny.
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I just want to mention, briefly atomic rod I misstated on the
previous show that he had been in a nuclear sub for 33 years.
And he says it's very important to me he says you know that you
get my resume read right now. And so just a correction. He was
in service for 33 years. He spent six fighting five years
actually used submerged, but he I don't know if it was
concurrent. But he spent five years submerge so correction
made.
Yeah. Sounds like a long time and a sub to be 33 years. Yeah,
sir Matt Nicole in Brooklyn, New York fifth double nickels on the
dime. Night Matt Nicole congratulating Pete and Annie
realice new slave Jack, who was born on Tuesday May 29. Can I
get a newborn Shut up slave karma for Jack and one hot milk
shout out for Annie
Wait a minute the newborn Oh, what was that called again? Oh,
a second. Oh, man. That was a good kid. Is that weather? Is
that what they want? Yeah. What do you do any you ordering
stocks and bonds?
Yeah, mine is selling I don't think I can Cago Chicago they're
fine in New York. So I'm trying to find the kid a little kid
I have no that's one Didn't you want the the other one the the
kid saying Shut up slave or am I am I misunderstanding?
Shut up slave newborn Shut
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this one hot now. You've got karma. Also, I've purchased Jack
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name forwarding to no agenda show.com That's Jack real ri E H
L. I think this is a good initiative. Have all your kids
names forward to us? Oh, your kid belong to us.
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John, do you grind your own meat for burgers? If so, do you have
a favorite blend?
Why that's a great question.
I have a grinder but I generally don't grind my own meat for
burgers. So I don't have a favorite blend. I'm not quite I
mean if I sometimes if I make a mix I like to have about you
know 30% Veal.
Have you ever done buffalo burgers? Oh yeah, I love buffalo
burgers are quite good. Yeah, you got to charcoal on that.
It's got to be on the real grill to give the extra flavor
crispy For Graham in Sayreville, New Jersey, $50, by way, just
bought us half a steer. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It's a nice
process. And I want to remind people I'm going to do what in a
future show, we're gonna talk about this as more details,
because everybody should be doing this. It's discouraged by
the government, the FDA and everybody else don't want you
buying your own steer and having it butchered the way exact way
you want. It butchered.
Assessing processing. It's called processing. Yeah.
Cut and wrap. Yeah, but you have to talk you talk to the butcher.
And then they you know, they tell you what you tell him what
you want too much a bunch of French cuts. So you want a bunch
of steaks, you want a bunch of roast, whatever, you get what
you want. And it's like a couple dollars a pound. And it's just a
way to go and is better meat because you get you can keep
track of the animal, you can make sure it's only grass fed or
whatever. And it's just but they just discourage the people who
dig big. Cargill and these big companies do everything they can
to keep the public from buying this. I talked
to my meat guy at the at the market here in Austin yesterday
and he said I got it. I got a new one at the processing says
so you'll have your tenderloin next week because I ordered the
tenderloin couple other cuts. And so it's essentially he's
kind of the middle guy, but it's still a lot cheaper. I get a
whole tenderloin for 28 bucks, John a whole tenderloin, the
ones
that go for 70 bucks at Costco, which has good prices.
Yeah 28 bucks. And I said hey, did the did the animal have a
name? I'm always interested in that says yeah, big boy by I'll
call them all big boy when they're when they're big, big
boy. And when you when that when when the animal hears me calling
them big boy, he knows it's over.
Christopher grim and Sayreville, New Jersey back to him. $50 in
the morning, John and Adam wish I could donate more but just
donations equal a day's worth of work with all the BS removed.
Thank you. What what do I expect for being a recent college grad
I'd like to request a Karma shot for finishing school with a BA
in theater. And for an audition I have tomorrow for the national
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I'd like to request a douchebag call out to the president of
Kean University. That's Dow would fall raw. He got the job
by lying on his resume about his education.
All right, well, let's get another one. Douche bag. And
here's your karma, man. Hope you get that gig in hair. You've got
karma. That's a good musical.
Yeah, it actually is a good mute. It's a little dated, but
it's still entertaining. ANDREW HARRISON and Gravenhurst Ontario
$50 Short Greg Brunson, Kenosha, Wisconsin, $50 and black night.
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them and everybody else who came in with lesser amounts for all
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it here. This is from Ivan who has been donating $42
consistently, of course, a very magical number, the universe can
be explained with that number. Thank you for all the hard work.
Please accept my apology for having been a douchebag since
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future.org and give a douchebag call out to the F p d for hiring
and protecting bad cops that are now on trial for the murder of
Kelly Thomas and many other horrific offenses. Not looking
to that one.
Fullerton Police Department yeah interesting. Now wasn't nice
town one time this subprime you get a bunch of bad cops in a
town and they can wreck it.
It happens. It happens. That's it. So definitely light. You
know, I guess what we're gonna this is why John loves
complaining a lot. Yeah, this is why John loves it, Miss Mickey
and I are gonna go out on the road. Because that keeps
everyone's attention. And, and keeps up attention is really
what it is because people start to wane a little bit in these in
these summer months. And which brings me to the fact that we
still do not have a trailer that the truck can pull. And we
desperately need one. renting one is an expensive proposition.
So it's, you know, we're talking six weeks now. Now, I'm sorry,
six weeks, we'll be you're getting married. And then we
come back. We want to leave right after that. And we want to
go up the Rockies up to Montana, you know, maybe we'll hit
Canadia and come back down again. So back in for the team.
Yeah. That'll be for the hot pockets 2009 tour. And for the
2010 tour. Of course, we'll do the entire west coast, which we
have not done yet. We'll go all the way up also hitting Canadia
but we need a trailer. And there's two ways to do it. You
know, you can do really if we really step up the donations we
can rent one. Rent is about 100 bucks a day. For the size that
we can pull, which I think 25 feet is about the max
particularly in the Rockies. 100 bucks a day is it not cheap,
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learn this in radio from a very, you know, early in any radio
career, that the only way to keep your audience tuned in
during the summer months is to do appearances, appearances
summer jams, whatever it is, you've got to go to the people
so we're doing it I think we're one of the few podcasts that
actually do this.
I've never heard of anybody else doing it.
I hear a lot of people talking up a big storm saying they're
going to do it but actually doing it is a different story.
So you know where to help us out and if we could just even it out
a little bit we have great you know, Thursdays really terrible
Sundays maybe just wants to do the Thursday show. I don't know
we could do we could do a longer Thursday show but that of course
is up to you. And I'm we haven't quite hit the doldrums of
February yet when things got really bad but we're getting
closer so please consider us consider donating its value for
value. Don't buy that second drink in New York don't buy that
now that you're constrained and
you've already seen avenge yours so you don't need to just go to
any movies and like the club we had a couple of really creative
people that have done some interesting things with their
you know come up with ways to do to donations you know, they left
a girlfriend Yeah, send us the money from a date.
Yeah, yeah, that's a win. So we like to show I mean, that's a
double win as a win win.
Losing her anyway.
Alright, let me program your brain for a moment.
devora.org/and A
young cold your pain congratulates his newborn
daughter Elisa who apparently compete now that he's got drunk
keeping up the tradition there and get my nation to do chillin.
Sir Matt Nicole, happy birthday to Pete and Annie's son, newborn
son, Jack, Jack real. And of course we celebrate the birthday
of the Jamaican and Austin and we say happy birthday on behalf
of all your buddies here at the no agenda show. Of course no
knighthoods today that was not with that level is not to be
expected. You can help it and hope it we get
really short on 1212 12 nights and probably a few will come in
at the end. But yeah, it'd be nice if somebody came in a
little sooner.
Okay, drone nation. Couple of reports going on. Just stuff
that you don't hear another drone crashed. And this was in
Afghanistan. But of course the was controlled from Langley, the
Joint Base Langley, the had a loss of engine coolant. And I
would like to remind people that when these things start flying
over the United States, and there's a loss of engine
coolant, you know, that could basically be bad if you're
underneath this drone. And if now engine coolant doesn't
necessarily mean you have to crash. If you're manning the
aircraft, you can probably find a place to land and yeah, and I
think most airmen would at least choose a rough landing over
killing people down below and these drones, I think, what's
happening, no offense to the drone operators, but it's just
not the same thing. Yeah, you're sitting there on your joystick,
like, Oh, I'm losing control, oh, well, whatever. But if it's
your own ass on the line, you might actually try and get this
thing down a loss of engine coolant. So the engines
basically quit. It didn't explode, didn't lose contact
with the ground yet it crashed. And the Canadian Air Force has,
under some form of Freedom of Information Act request, has
released some of their data. They've already had 40 Let me
see what's the exact like numbers of 42 or 47 crashes 10
most recently for these things do crash yeah as of June 10 2011
Most accidents involved engine failure failure engine failure
is what as a pilot you train for you train for the helicopters
you train
so many crashes This is ridiculous. Are these engines
junk? What kind of money do we spend on these things that
they're the engines are crapping out left and right. Yeah,
that I can't answer. But I do know that engine failure does
not have to lead to a crash and I have no evidence of what
happened there's no reports I can read about the so called
crashes so I don't know if it you know, if it was a if on
landing it flipped over or whatever, but it seems like
these things just coming down and crashing and like boom,
okay. I think that these pilots, these these operators, maybe
just giving up on it, and yeah, maybe it's not so bad if it's in
the desert over Kandahar, which there's some people down below
there too, as well. But I'm I think we need to be very, very
careful about what we allow in our skies. Just saying that you
know, there's there's less than 500,000 licensed pilots in the
United States.
Sounds about right.
But with a number dwindling,
but as dwindling because it's just as like getting your own
steer is discouraged by the government. General Aviation is
bait being discouraged by the government this has been going
on for years you know this?
Yeah. No, of course I know it. They even want to implement $100
per flight fee for the Next Gen system which will put a lot of
pilots out of business and you can't go flying your aircraft
you got to pay 100 bucks for each time to take off just to
pay for the privilege of using the Next Gen system which is
supposed to be a public good I did like the petition on the
White House though. Did you see this petition?
I don't know which one is it's the do
not kill list. You can you should link in the show notes
for and for that any show notes.com You can put your name
as effective as the do not call this two calls. I got to call
them a few minutes ago. I'm on the do not call this and I still
get calls and that there's an article in The New York Times
about this saying it doesn't work. If everybody's bitching
and moaning I'm on the do not call us but they call anyway.
Nobody does anything about it. So the do not kill this will be
exactly the same.
It's cute, though on the White House. So it's very pleased
President Obama do not put me on your kill list. I'm a good guy.
It's pretty funny.
Yeah, I just didn't get it.
So the zombie meme continues to propagate. And now it's becoming
very, very obvious. Erin Burnett. Man, it's such a shame.
You know, she's so cute. She's on the of course, she's a
Council of Foreign Relations. She'll, and now you know, she
keeps doing this. It she's now she's overacting in her lead up
to the stories. I'm not gonna play the story obviously, that
comes out of a little cross talk with Anderson Cooper, and just
listen to how she's overacting.
We're learning more tonight about the man who was killed by
Florida police as he was chewing off another man's face. Rudy,
Eugene's mother and girlfriend now speaking out about an
incident so gruesome. That you know as we've been telling you
it's the pictures are disturbing. It was It was awful.
There were people who apparently were even biking by and saw this
absolutely horrific scene.
So we have seen zero pictures by the way. Have you seen guys with
with his face chewed off? Have you seen this guy eating his
flesh? No, you haven't seen any of that?
There was one picture of the naked guy leaning over somebody.
Yeah, but everything's blurred out. Yeah. So
really like my no agenda. T shirt, but he's gonna
know so we have not seen this. She keeps saying horrific. It's
horrible. Like it's the worst thing you could ever imagine
zombie one
year old Eugene was described to be in a zombie like state. When
he was caught by police in Miami on Saturday. No one
described him as in a zombie like state that
didn't you run this clip last week that there's no this she
keeps doing
this. Every single show she does a zombie segment. Every single
show and this is in relation to the CDC. The Centers for Disease
Control Hello. We know the guys that are listening. We know they
listen. We've one of them is a knight who work at the CDC. It's
true. The CDC and comes out and says there's absolutely no proof
that zombies exist. Oh, thanks, CDC. Here's a report from New
York 1010 wins. I love how this is propagating.
Javon Kendrick just doesn't get it. He can't imagine what could
possess the CDC of federal agency to come out and declare
There are no zombies who have believed in his own death. I
don't know like the Feds would have to tell you for you to
believe that there's zombies I you know, that's common. This is
Javon meet Michelle. I feel like this CDC they know something's
going on. So they're trying to cover it up. So no one won't
panic. Michelle also believes in vampires. It's just one big
conspiracy, how they got movies like that with the government.
They make potions and stuff in and Oh, perhaps she seen
what I'm with Michelle, anecdotes, you know, the
government didn't make potions and stuff. I wouldn't Michelle I
and why would you make such a big deal about it. And of
course, the problem here are really the setup because we know
that Brad Pitt's movie is coming out World War Z is that the CDC
came out a few months ago with a zombie preparedness entire
webpage that preparing for the zombie apocalypse. And I want
you to listen to the spokes haul for the CDC. Talking about now
this was one of those satellite things where you know, he just
sitting in a room with with a CDC logo on a monitor in the
background. And he's answering questions via remote and
everyone gets the same video. Listen to how he's talking and
tell me Well, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give it away. Just
listen, we were coming
up on hurricane season. And we were really looking for a novel
and innovative way to engage the American public in their own
preparedness. And we had recognized that during the
recent tragedy in Japan, on our Twitter feed, there was a lot of
buzz when people had mentioned zombie. So when my
communications director came to me and said, let's think about
using Do you hear it?
Do you hear what do you hear? Listen to how He breeds
zombies as a way to get people to engage in personal
preparedness. I said absolutely. Let's go for it. established a
zombie Task Force. And then using existing resources and
social media we put together this campaign. Do you didn't
hear? No, I
don't hear anything. It's just a guy talking.
Listen to how we breathe. Listen again. Breathing Yes, listen
has absolutely been excellent, much more than we had ever
expected. So usually, I get about 3000 odd people that
examine the blog that I put together. The guy uses r&b.
He's really like this. This case
we've got over when we were so far I've had over about 2
million hits.
On emphysema or some zombie sounds terrible. Well, let me
save the show with this clip. Ready? Yeah. Okay, so I'm just
delight clip I've been saving. So I'm watching it that just
comes right out of it. There's a bunch of Trekkie guys trekkers
in Star Trek guys talking about the the parties, they do a party
every year, and it's getting bigger and bigger and more
successful. And this is what you can expect if you ever go to one
of these things. I mean, we've been having this
party now for years. It seems like every year it gets to be a
little bit more fun. Couple more people come and you know it
started off small now the younger people are coming this
year we had a girl come and everything
girl actually came to our party.
That is pathetic.
I like that. My good. Good one. One of our producers pointed
something out about Syria. You know, we you know, oh, by the
way, before you go into that, oh, New York Times. No.
We talked about in the last show, there was something that
was going to change it was so what was the real background? I
said pipes. Yeah, no pipe memory that you know what the thing
might actually be with the Russians. So make him with this
stat just threw it out. Syria accounts for 10% of all Russian
arms sales. And one of the things that's that we've not
really done, we go into the oil companies, we go into the
pipeline committee, but we have kind of left the arms dealers
out of the equation when we come to this kind of international
intrigue. 10% of all Russian arm sales
goes into Syria. Yeah, well, there's not there's, there's
okay, this this fits in nicely. So we know they have that the
port their TARDIS is the port the naval base.
Yeah, they need a big base there so they can bring the arms Ah,
not
here it is here. Here's the here's what I got. 2008 that's
when we had the Oceti a war. The Russians were planning to deploy
out to the US of course deployed the missile defense shield in
Poland. President Assad agreed to convert the port into a
permanent Middle East base for Russia's nuclear armed warships.
And since 2009, they've been renovating the naval base,
dredging the port to allow access for the larger naval
vessels vessels so they can have their own nuclear armament
shield. This now makes sense with Iron Dome and all that
crap. So not only do we not want the Russians, we want to take
away their arm sales business. We don't want them deploying a
missile shield right there. Right. Right. Right up from
Israel. Started Well, we know from the last show that this is
about the Russians. I mean, that's been confirmed. Yeah, we
already knew it was but now it's starting to come together. This
is screw the rooskies
we are we want something from them. Yeah. And we we did a
deal. This whole thing was going along fine when the Exxon guys
did a deal with the with Putin. And then the next thing you
know, and Putin apparently is the arms dealer. The next thing
you know, it goes south. And now we got this conflagration that's
just like completely out of control. We don't know. You
know, we can't really deconstruct it. It's like, the
Russians have got something to do with it, obviously. But we
think we keep digging.
CNN has been, you know, CNN is great to watch because no one
else watches it. So everything I play from CNN is new and fresh.
But it's also of course, because they are just like ABC. They're
basically part of the Ministry of Truth. So throughout all of
the bad stuff that was happening in Egypt, we had riots and all
kinds of stuff going on not a peep out of no Anderson Cooper
there and WR square. And then all of a sudden what are we see
news tonight Hosni Mubarak is going to die in prison. That is
a judgment handed to him today in Cairo. Life in prison, a
civilian court holding the 84 year old former Egyptian
president responsible for the deaths of 840 people during the
historic revolution that forced him out of office. The verdict?
Not terribly surprising, though,
I want you to take a look at the scene right now. My pictures are
the biggest Arab Spring revolution was born. 11pm and
Turkey square is packed with Egyptians both overjoyed and
furious. You can see the crowds there.
Yeah, so we're live back on to square now. But this is a farce.
If you look at the elections, did you see the percentage of
people who voted in Egypt for the first run off? What was it?
41%?
So it sounds like one of our elections?
Yes. So it's not there was no revolution. There's not let
people on like Yeah, great. Now they're gonna they're gonna just
vote in a new shield a new CIA shill. And I've been reading up
on on Egypt and that a lot of Egyptians who don't who are not
on TV or squares, 80 million Egyptians I might point out who
were saying, Hey, hold on a second. This is bullcrap. You're
just putting in a new shill economically. I'm looking at the
Financial Times here there was only 2% of Egyptians below the
poverty line. This guy actually from the way economically from
the way I see it did a lot of good for the country.
Well, you'd never know it or even consider that as a
possibility if you follow any of the story. So he's on the front
page of The New York Times with bars crossed them he's wearing
sunglasses for some reason.
I thought that was pretty funny.
sunglasses and a watch Yeah. And kind of an expensive and look
like prison garb
you know the Do you remember the really pretty girl the asthma?
My foods she was one of the techno experts on the ground.
She would to be interviewed really really pretty Egyptian
girl spoke really good English. eglee Yeah, yeah. So you know
where she showed up the other day? Know where with with
Lucifer Clinton at the State Department with a whole bunch of
techno experts. She's there with like, guys from Tunisia from
Libya. And she's right there saying and Lucifer thank and I'm
clippity clop so obvious, but you know what we're fed is we're
fed Oh, this is great. You know, another dictator toppled? I
don't think we can fight it anymore.
Who said that we could fight it in the first place?
No, I had some ideal.
Apparently. I was not me.
How stupid of me. Yeah, I know. I was stupid.
So another aspect of the EU crisis I get one last clip was
short on clips today. I didn't think there was that much that
went on since Thursday. So I'm Krugman, a Krugman or whatever
you want to say. This is a good one to foreboding of war. This
was another British. I think this is unjust news news day.
And I thought this was a little, little little hint about what
things to come. Is that my cue? Yeah, it was. A whole
austerity project is seen a disorderly breakup of the euro
is so unthinkable that economists find it hard to
model, but at least they are thinking about it. The problem
is for the centrist politicians and civil servants who run
Europe, they don't even want to think about it. And when you
look at what's happening in Greece, on the streets, you can
see why the old split between left and right is still there
underneath. It's still simmers, there's still a lot of people
have a sense of their family histories of the political
history of the country. So your grandfather killed my
grandfather. Yes, your dad could come back. Your grandfather
killed my grandfather. It's already coming back.
Your grandfather took my bike.
So it will Yeah. So this is like a setup seems to me just the
story alone. All Hell's gonna break loose is it'd be a This
can't be good for the stock market.
Yeah, no, I really care. The I looked at the stock market for
two things. By the way, nice to see the gold popped up. 50 bucks
in one day. Oh, that was for
damn good reason. Well, yeah, these jobless numbers and these
guys in the toilet. Yeah. Well, so you
basically prove my point. That when everything comes crashing
down, people will run to gold.
They tend to Yes. Yeah. Okay, good. So superstitious people
they are.
It's okay, John, because you could always get a sandwich at
my house here in Austin,
and get a sandwich I buy. I buy my beef on the hoof.
Yeah, and the other thing I look at is just with glee, just with
glee, as the, as the proof that advertising on the Internet is a
farce. As Facebook continues to crash, and, and, and they went
down. It just made me laugh. Facebook went down. Remember the
if you saw the movie Zuk Zuk, saying the Facebook never goes
down. The Facebook never goes down. Let me explain something
about the Macan. I've been wanting to do this. Let
mechanics of advertising on the Internet, why it doesn't work.
It's about supply and demand and inventory. When you have a
television program, there is a limited supply of time, it's a
finite defined amount of time that can be used for
advertising. Now, they can expand that but you run into all
kinds of problems, because then you have no program left, and
we're approaching that tipping point. But there's only one
drink manufacturer that can have its cup on you know, it's called
category exclusivity, that can have its cup on the judge's
tables at an American Idol. And that's Coca Cola. And so you
know, that's been sold, and there's a bidding war going on
for that. And, you know, Coke wants to do it. And they
sponsored basically the whole program. And, you know, the the
contestants sign away their lives do commercials, and they
actually air these commercials in the show. But it's finite,
it's limited. There's only so much. And that's what that's why
there's supply, which is limited and demand. And when you have
some numbers, which are good numbers, and 10 20 million, then
you're going to be able to set a higher price. When you have the
internet, the inventory is unlimited. So the more people
you have, who are getting an ad, the lower the price is going to
be so you may be able to sell more ads, but the price is going
to be driven down unless you can argue it any other way. John,
the market of internet advertising, really, when it
comes to display has no future.
Well, I think it has a future. It's just a grim future. Well, I
don't think ads are going to disappear from the internet. And
I think they're still have to go to ad tech, which is that people
want to get follow this in any real way and actually tried to
learn something. I would recommend a finding the ad tech
main site. And then every time they do one of these shows, they
have all over the world. They have one in San Francisco, they
have one in New York, they got one in Hong Kong, we got them
all over the place. Go to the site and then try to find the
cache of podcasts. Every speech that's given at ad tech is
available as a one hour download. And you can pick and
choose what you want to listen to and you can listen to it
These guys, and you'll learn quite a bit about the
advertising game as it exists today because it changes, like,
constantly because of what Adam just described it, everyone's
aware of this problem, and they're always trying to adjust
and fix it. And if you listen to these, these podcasts or these
downloads of the lectures that you'd have to pay to listen to,
if you were there, you can kind of catch what they're up to, in
advance of them actually doing it's actually quite educational
for just about anybody.
And so what do you what have you deduced from following this?
Your basic premises Correct. Video seems to be very popular
right now. And it seems to have been for a while and it's but
video is all the reason that you see all these five minutes shows
and these eight minute shows and all this because nobody can,
they've never been able to monetize in its western and
Steve Chu and C two and C two or whatever it's called,
interspersed in or interstitial interstitial. They've never been
able to monetize the interstitial ads, because they
don't know if anybody's seeing um, so they can just so there's
pre roll, and they figure somebody sees that that's what
you're bitching about constantly. Because every time
you click on something, there's a stupid free roll. I don't say
they don't even know if that's effective. That's just a
crapshoot. They're, they're, they're experimenting. It's not
a done deal one way or the other.
Right. But I think the, the issue of scarcity, the lack of
scarcity on the internet drives the price down. So yes, Facebook
can have 900 million people. But the marketplace is just saying,
Okay, that's great. You know, I'll take I'll take 1000 for a
penny. Because you got 900 Anyway, I am. You know,
whatever. There's enough of it. It's just a natural occurrence.
So it just they there's just no way to grow. And yeah, of
course, there'll be advertising on the Internet. Of course,
there will be but it's, I was I was sitting at Halcyon.
Yesterday after the market house yacht. It's a great little bar
here on Fourth Street and I think it was Guadalupe and you
can sit outside and their motto is everything that's bad for
you. alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, and so basically can
sit outside smoke, drink coffee, drink Bottomless mimosas, they
got food, it's fantastic. And I hear some douche, pitching some
other guy about a website for tattoo artists. And the venture
is like so how you gonna monetize this? Oh, advertising?
Oh, yeah, that's great. God
turn around and tell him? No, in the lecture.
No, it was too entertaining. Well,
this happened in the late 1999 2000 When the whole.com
thing crashed. These guys were singing the same song about
advertising. And it's just, you know, it's just there's no, just
look at Flickr. I mean, they're they have a bunch of eyeballs
and never been able to monetize that site. Instagram is never
gonna make any money, except for selling it to some sucker. I'm
sorry. And I agree. I think Facebook is like that's a that
is the worst mark is not even. You can make some money if you
have a very specialized targeted site that's about, you know, the
nut and bolt business and machine tools. You say have a
machine tool site and is a very exclusive and you have
subscribers. People will pay for that. And they'll pay for that.
And then you could put ads on there and get top dollar. But
that is short of that. Just having a general public of a
bunch of douche bags of the whole 99 million people in
China. We were willing to average What are you going to
advertise for the Chinese? They're done to Facebook. It
doesn't make any sense. Do so disaster.
Wait a minute, let me see that's available hold on before the
douche book on douche book.com Let me see if I can read yours
to that real quick. Would that be great? If there was a douche
book God come and see you to to come on. Come on. Come on. Come
on. Come on. Ah, crap. Someone already has it.
Somebody has douche book douche book.
Well, I Are you on twit today? Yes, I am. Oh, good. I've
programmed you. I've been successful. Now. They're gonna
start talking about Facebook because that's what they do. And
you can be like, Man, I was crap and advertising don't work. And
you're all set. You're good to go. Yeah,
thanks, your boss, your prep.
I will say I'm working on a project. It'll be a non money
making project because the no money on it. What else is new?
There's no par for my career. There's no money in it. But I
need some help from any of our technical experts out there, our
SIS admins, but really developers, if you can develop a
patchy and particularly in Apache modules and or PHP, I've
got I think a really fun project and would take probably one one
engineer, one developer could work with me. And it would be, I
think, something outstanding that could really catch fire. No
one would own it, it'd be a lot of fun. And as I said, there's
there's no money in it. And I got no money to pay you, as we
live on the value for value concept here, which is why we
don't have ads, because we can make a living of just getting by
by you helping us. Donating to the show, we can't have ads,
because we could we'd be restricted. This is another
problem with advertising that we can't talk about the things we
want to talk about. So consider us. Yeah, cuz
we basically, you put a bunch of effort into getting an
advertiser and you could you could Joel them, and you groom
them and then do your advertising, then you say one
thing, and somebody calls the area, these guys are a couple
that net because you shouldn't be advertising with them, and
they pull the ad immediately. Now, it takes nothing to get
these average, these advertisers are soliciting me Miche. They're
skittish. They're really, you know, and you had to deal with
them. I rarely
hear here's an experiment just to prove that the theory is
true. When you're on to it today. Say man Ford really
sucks. Give that a try. Well, yeah,
yeah. Yeah, I'll be doing that. Yeah, keep an ear tuned in.
Just to prove the point, John, is just to prove the point.
Yeah. I think the points well, proven. Experiment is necessary.
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