After use the bags can be sealed and thrown in the trash or
thrown at someone. Adam curry John C. Dvorak. Sunday, October
9 2011. Time again for your gizmo nation media assassination
episode 346. This is no agenda representing sis admins
worldwide from the hilltop Watchtower crackpot command
center cabin nowadays here in the People's Republic of
Southern California. Yay and mourn everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're doing the tent pole
of all podcasts. John C. Dvorak is Greg Levin Buzzkill.
Amen. I like that a lot. The 10 poll of all podcasts. I'm
pitching a tent. How are you?
Yeah, right. As we speak, yeah.
coup in the morning to you, John,
in the morning to you, Adam curry and all ships at sea in
the morning and all boots on the ground in the morning. And also
the feet in the air.
Yes. And in the morning to all sis admins, the administrators
who manage the systems who are clearly starting to do stuff.
We'll be talking about that today. Very nice to see you all
charged up in your various positions. We know you're at it,
and we love you for it. And of course, all of the human
resources in the chat room and no agenda stream.com And no
agenda chat dotnet they they call you human resources for a
reason. You know, you're a resource. You happen to be human
and they're sucking you dry. Glad to have you aboard. John, I
went down to Occupy Wall Street, Los Angeles yesterday, Los
Angeles, Los Angeles. Yeah. This was very interesting. I felt it
was time to get some boots on the ground, when, of course I
knew we already had boots on the ground. We got a couple of our
producers there who have been who have pitched their own tent.
For the past few days. They've been down there. And it's at
city hall in Los Angeles. And very interesting.
Would you learn? Well, there
are multiple camps in this case, literally this kind of like
three groups of people who were there not for really? First of
all, you've got people who are generally homeless, who were
like, Oh, finally a place I can pitch my tent without getting
kicked out. Exactly. There's no kidding. Like, there's a lot.
That's gotta be the
majority.
Yeah, particularly around here. So there's just California, tons
of tents with actual homeless people who are just really happy
to have a place where they can set up tend to not get kicked
out.
Obama Ville? Yeah, exactly.
Then you have it's kind of weird the way City Hall is here in Los
Angeles, you have the steps of City Hall, and which, you know,
which is big and pompous. And so there's a lot of people kind of
converging in front of those because there's a PA system,
which I guess showed up a couple of days ago. Unfortunately, I
believe the PA system may be owned by the unions. Now when we
got there. Yesterday afternoon. It was just one Union after
another the 80 la which is the teachers union and then Danny
Glover showed up and he was talking unions. So just a lot of
yeah, a lot of union stuff. Yeah. But you know, good signs
though. I like a lot of the a lot of the signage. Did you see
my sign I had a sign.
Let it say well,
why don't you go to go to Miki C's dot com and my ckyses.com
Take a look at my site. I had two signs am i c k e y Hey, y no
E How
is E C's dot com?
Yeah, Mickey sees you'll see my son thing. It's the second
collection. Then around the corner, kind of on the side
entrance is where you have essentially the attack the
media, Ron Paul and the Fed guys and it's kind of grungy on that
side. But that's where I feel though a lot of the real people
who are really down with the message you also completely
understood my sign when you see my sign.
I'm looking all over I'm on the fourth or fifth page I've not
seen any sign
now it's the if you go to Mickey C's dot com a thing is the
second batch of pictures Hold on, let me take a look.
I don't think so. Yeah,
I think so. Let's say Okay, so you you see the the masks the
the V masks.
I'm looking at it.
If you see Mickey sees.com You
see the V max V the V max evil is that yours?
No, you click on the V masks.
No How would I know this?
Well it says view when you hover over it. Wait, that's not the
right one. I'm sorry. It's okay. You see the evil sucks. Now go
to the fourth one. So not on evil sucks.
Clicking on it and we all get evil
Evil sucks the one next terrible site. Yeah it's a tumbler we're
fixing that. Yeah, anyway, the sign said don't drone me bro and
I had drone nation.com and the no agenda kind of a no agenda
logo. And it was it was interesting because on the city
steps people would look at me and go like huh What do you mean
don't drill me now I kind of have the Ron Paul side of City
Hall people like hey don't drone me bro. They totally got it. I
think Nikki just uploaded a uploaded a set. That's why it's
switched around. And then on the reverse side of that I had sis
admins United use RSS not Facebook and Facebook Inc. and I
had the F and the B and the I have Facebook and capitalized to
look like FBI. And cute and that and that actually got a lot of
sis admins. Hey, man, hey, that's pretty cool, man. Right?
Oh, man. And there was the no agenda tend with, you know, all
the all the signage there. But it is growing. There were
several 100 people there for sure. And it was just you know,
the thing is like, the the PA is dominated by the union guys, you
can't just get up there. And you know, well, maybe if you're in
the morning, it's early in the morning or something. Maybe you
can get up there, but there's like a line in the sand, you
know, and there's people who are managing who's on the microphone
like, okay. All right then. So because I was gonna go up there
and throw some Smackdown Yeah, yeah. But that didn't feel very
welcome. And, you know, when Danny Glover shows up anywhere,
beware. You know, that's that's just that's not good. But he's
interesting people protesting all kinds of different things as
this DCFS which I didn't know what that stood for. You know
what that stands for? DCFS. I have no idea Department of
Children and Family Services. Oh, yeah. Like, it's like, Give
us back our children. People having sigh holding up signs
predominantly look like Mexican people walking around, I guess.
They came in with their kids and Department of Children and
Family Services that were taking your kid away from you. So
there's probably legitimate concern.
I'm sure it is a problem in Texas. Yeah.
But the but what was really nice is everyone's kind of hanging
around. Everyone's talking, you know. And that was nice to see
that people are at least talking about stuff amongst themselves,
which I think is the big benefit of going to one of these things,
is just meeting other people and hearing what their, what their
grievances are. But the 99% thing has me extremely bothered.
I'm not liking that at all. My mama taught me you know, you
don't want to join any club that excludes anybody. Then you go
down. It's like, well, what if you're what part of the 1% you
can't you can't be a part of it. Now. It was a cute no agenda
sign no agenda. 99%
thing, by the way, is cropping up everywhere. Yeah,
yeah. Well, the no agenda, guys, they got it. They had no agenda
show.com 99% free. They understand the joke. That's
good. So
did you learn anything that you didn't know?
That? No, not really, it kind of just solidified everything for
me that it's it's being hijacked by by the unions. And I guess
it's good that everyone's down there. And at least people are
off their asses, you know, that, that I like? I really do like
that.
So the fact that Fox is completely sold out, and they
don't represent anybody, that's a real person. I do have a clip
that applies to this these events. I think it summarizes
the attitude, even though no one wants to admit that there's
different kinds of just discrepant, let's say groups at
these events would play the the the GET A JOB losers clip,
right. Yeah,
I think I heard this one. So we are talking about a
demonstration now that is picking up some considerable
steam. Is this is this demonstration in your judgment?
Is it rational is do they have a point? And would do you think
we'll see it continue to grow? I doubt it. You know, they're
supposed to be marching today on the strip right about right now.
It's supposedly I had one of the representatives of that group on
my show this morning. And, you know, he's not really clear what
he wants, you know, he wants to take the money out of politics,
you know, things like that. And I reminded him how much money
the union spend in politics. He goes, Well, no, no, they don't
spend nearly as much as some other groups. You know, they're
not logical. I don't think they're going to stay together
very long. And the reality is, you know, they're complaining
about Wall Street and unfairness, the amount of time
they spend marching and organizing, they'd be better off
looking for a job frankly.
Yeah, it was interesting. And one thing I did learn actually,
you know, they have these general assemblies now at at all
of the Occupy Wall Street things and there's basically they
everyone gets together, I guess yells out stuff, and they write
up a big list of everything that we need, which varies from
Water. By the way, that's also there's no organization. They
have a couple of porta potties there. But no food trucks
around. I don't know what's going on with the food. Can
we mentioned the fact that it was like considered a great
thing that there was no organization with the early tea
parties that were just individuals and there was no
centralized?
Oh, no, of course. Well, it's funny. It was great. It was
fantastic. Ralph Nader, who I'm starting to like more and more,
I've never really paid attention to him. I thought it was kind of
a dork. He was on Judge Napolitano show, which is the
only show on Fox where they actually do have kind of half a
clue about what's happening. And he spoke specifically about the
Tea Party, which he basically echoed what we've said from the
get go before it even happened. Welcome back to the show. Thank
you. Do you see do you see similarities Ralph between the
Tea Party movement and the Occupy Wall Street movement,
which started in lower Manhattan and has now spread to other
cities around the country?
Before the Tea Party movement was hijacked by the corporatist
Republicans? Yes.
Exactly. Before it was hijacked. You got it? Yep. But this is a
woman who's a common tater on Fox, what's her name? Terry
something or other it's real hard ass. And she took that
whole get a job thing one step further was really quite
astounding to to listen to.
Well, I mean, it's amazing. The media is really in search of
itself. I advise anybody who has a sense of humor left about this
to go to occupy Wall street.com. And what you will read is the
ravings of what sounds like the Unabomber
is that setting someone up to be a terrorist by saying is the
ravings of the Unabomber. Also,
the use of the word meta, a Greek degree of, of language,
which I
would rock is this woman been under that she's never read the
word meta anywhere? And she say, Oh, it's a Greek degree of
major, really
Bunco into at the moment, but these people have plenty of
words to say, but it's again, and I don't mean to sound just
repeat what everybody else has said. But it is annoying. Yeah,
well go on just please do it anyway, what they want, but it's
certainly better going down there and hit carrying signs
than going out and and hitting the pavement for a job. What's
interesting about this is that maybe it's been deliberately
media is being accused of setting this up for Obama so
that he can use this as a these people as a wedge against the
Republicans in the election. I don't know if that's true or
not. But the unions couldn't the Public Service unions couldn't
wait to get down there last week. And there is something
there's there's something it's a magnet for the disenchanted
isn't just people without jobs, it isn't old people isn't just
young people. So people who like good weather, by the way, so
we'll see how long this lasts.
She forgot the dating part. But the weather is a new one. I
liked that one. I heard the weather one ad
told test everybody's metal. But then they miss the story.
Starting at the beginning. I mean, officially the date. This
course comes from the New York Times. That's why it's official
says in September 17 was the start of this thing. And then
stories didn't start being printed until early, early
October. I found also by the way, that one of the reasons the
Washington Post and do much of that is because they don't have
it off
as he goes and all kinds of stupid stuff about the
Washington Post. But the bottom line is, before most people who
are not intimately involved in it is still most people. They're
only seeing bits and bobs and little snippets of, of idiots
that they put on television. And it's all with it. And that's the
that's the media meme that they've got no message they have
no message. Whereas Strangely enough the same media never ever
questioned Egypt or Tunisia as Oh, no, they they want the
corrupt government as the evil dictator, you know, the guy that
kills his own people. Obama, my guy. I'm sorry, that's our
dictator, not theirs. And it was very simple people on the media
understood it completely, but they just haven't gotten their
marching orders. I think that's the problem. The media is
confused because no one has told them what to say yet. Like,
where's the metal and apparently
that's, that's the only excuse I can think they come up with this
old mean by the way and this thing goes back to the 60s and
70s Thank you. I mean it every time they say it, which is one
of the you know, since I go back to the 60s and 70s as a kid it's
like every time I hear it I go wow, I can't believe they're
saying that get a job All that's missing is get a job and get a
haircut
yeah haircut they used to say so it's the same thing,
get a haircut, get a job, get a haircut. Once again. It's the
same job people there's a lot of these jobs aren't available. I
mean, unless you want to work for
nothing and the $3 haircut is also long gone. Yeah, well, they
are getting by barely
they've dropped the haircut meme, they're gonna it's gonna
be something because you have to have two things. So it's gonna
be get a job, take a bath or something like that, because I
think a lot of these people apparently stink die.
Oh, no, no, that's in there too was like you're pooping on the
street and I'm hearing that crop up here and there. So what
happened in the 60s? John, in your recollection? What was the
progression of this? So now we're at the get a job get a
haircut phase, what happened after them and
that then comes the cops to beat the crap out of me that's
already had a bunch of people get killed. And then everyone
goes, Oh, we killed people for no good reason.
So I think it's time that the protesters go down, they're
armed. Well, this is the this is the this is the thing that they
held? Well, yeah. Well, if we had those 1000s of people and
they all had a gun, like in you know, in North Africa, where
it's legal,
yeah, well, then they become a with the SWAT teams that they
are, you know what question that is for yours.
I question that if there's if there's 100 or 200,000 people
and they've all got a weapon. The cops aren't going to just
start shooting on him. Oh, yeah. No, I think that'd be very
afraid.
Yeah. They're just big behind cars shooting and don't kid
yourself.
Well, that's the only thing that our government is truly afraid
of is that our popular population is armed that's all I
know. Yeah. Well Meanwhile at afraid the the Occupy Wall
Street idea of course is a spreading around the globe.
We've got Athens, Athens, very funny actually. They're now
protesting Germany because of course this is what was always
the setup, right is let's say Germany is trying to ruin
everything once again. And and now we've got the the brothers
and sisters of Greece, angry at the brothers and sisters in
Germany and vice versa. And now they're holding up signs of
Angela Merkel with a Hitler mustache, which actually looks
pretty good on her. I have to say, it kind of fits. But have
you heard of the indignance? Now, the indignant protest is
something off the hook. These people are very serious. I mean,
you think it's tough for people to go down to City Hall or down
to Wall Street and listen to this.
The marathon marches over for these so called indignant
protesters who have converged on Brussels from several European
countries defying a ban. hundreds of demonstrators set up
camp in the cities Elizabeth Park. They want to make their
voices heard and denounced EU ordered austerity carts. But
first there was time to celebrate the sheer joy of
reaching their Journey's End. Organizers said more than 100
had marched from Spain where the Indignados Movement became a
phenomenon this spring.
People's marching from
Spain. Indignados Yeah, like
they walked from Spain to Brussels. That's
a long way. Yes. Are you kidding me? That's why it took so long.
Yeah, but that's a serious protests right there. Yeah,
yeah, that's more than a weekend warrior.
We don't won't do anything like that. We're gonna basically have
these homeless encampments protected by a bunch of
youngsters. Well, no, it wasn't the and the, the, what's the
name of that guy? Lyndon LaRouche crowd will be in force.
Did you find any Lyndon LaRouche people there? No, set up a
table.
No, I heard Lyndon LaRouche on Alex Jones, da, which is what a
great combo, by the way, Alex Jones, all of a sudden has an RV
and he's traveling around the country. Thanks. And Lyndon
LaRouche says, If I can paraphrase him, and this is the
only reason why I would listen is to hear the guest. He said,
Look, everyone's the administration is is, is falling
apart. Wall Street, of course, is actually kind of falling
apart. And he says, The only way to stop the unavoidable crash,
which I guess you and I kind of believe it's a cycle and
whatever you do, it's going to happen anyway. It's unavoidable,
he says is to reinstate Glass Steagall. He says, that is truly
the only way to stop it. Yeah, well, it's too late. And just
say won't do that, by the way, just so people understand Glass
Steagall was it was a Clinton who busted that up.
Yeah. How was Clinton? So the Clinton it was the
idea. It was the idea that a bank if it was you had to have a
separate bank has to be a bank. Yeah. Where you put your money
and if it was an investment bank, it's something else. And
of course, that is now all one where a bank is also an
investment bank,
and an insurance company and a stockbroker. Yeah. And a
whorehouse I hear some of those on Wall Street. That's that's
actually the only good part.
Yeah, but it's a this is not going to end well. No, it will
end Did riots and I'm pretty sure it's going to end initially
in these fractions inside of the movement warring against each
other because they will heat up. And this is what the FEMA camps
are for. We've been talking about that for years. Yeah, no,
I'm not joking. This is what the FEMA camps are for. The question
is, will the protesters be thrown into the FEMA camps? Or
will the law abiding citizens be invited in for their protection?
That's the only question I have left. Now, President Obama had a
news conference, a long one, I spent so much time watching C
span over the past few days, and he was actually the conference
was rather short, he had, you know, his statement was five
minutes. It's all the same things like the Republicans, you
know, did they have a better plan or the Republicans this
dude, have so tiring to listen to? But finally, people are
starting to ask the right questions. And this is Jake.
Just to follow up on Jackie's question. One of the reasons why
so many of the people at the Occupy Wall Street protests are
so angry is because as you say, so many people on Wall Street
did not follow the rules. But your administration hasn't
really been very aggressive in prosecuting, in fact, I don't
think any Wall Street executives have gone to jail, despite the
rampant corruption and malfeasance that did take place.
So I was wanting to comment on that. And then just as a
separate question, as you're watching this Solyndra and Fast
and Furious furious controversies play out, I'm
wondering if it gives you any pause about any of the decision
making going on in your administration, some of the
emails that Democrats put out, indicating that people at the
Office of Management and Budget were concerned about the
Department of Energy, some of the emails going on with the
Attorney General are saying he didn't know about, the details
are fast and furious. Are you worried at all about how this is
how your administration is running? Well, first on the
issue of on the issue of of prosecutions on Wall Street. One
of the biggest problems of that the collapse of Lehman's and the
subsequent financial crisis and the whole subprime lending
fiasco
is that a lot of that stuff wasn't necessarily illegal, it
was just immoral, or inappropriate or reckless.
So it wasn't illegal. Did I actually hear the President say
that? That he just let all of Wallstreet off the hook by
saying that stuff that did wasn't illegal, really, but
the promise he was vague. What was he referring to?
A lot of that stuff? Well, there you go. laundering drugging
on that stuff wasn't illegal. bombesin seems I understand this
perjury when like 90 minutes, and he took like a total of
like, less than 10 questions. Well,
yeah, when the questions are like this.
So in these notes, his long winded answers, he has gotten to
the point I've seen him interviewed before, and I
noticed this and I think I pointed it out on another show.
When he was I think O'Reilly interviewed him and he kept
interrupting him because because Obama would start yak and he's
learned this from Clinton. Yeah. He just goes and goes and goes,
and he's goes, and he drones and he drones. And he goes, again,
you're talking about John Kerry. Yeah. And just continues to chat
and let's just stop him.
No, why do you think I was bored to tears? I
have to sit through all of them. Surprise, you didn't shoot
yourself.
I'm saving my bullets for the real revolution. Another quick
thing I picked up was about the solar energy company Solyndra,
where he slips in another convenient live, Solyndra. This
is a loan guarantee program that predates me, that historically
has had support from Democrats and Republicans as well cure. It
predates him, however, the Bush administration actually declined
or denied the Solyndra loan. And then two weeks into the Obama
administration, all of a sudden Department of Energy approved
the loan. But once again, it's like, oh, it was the other guys.
I had nothing to do. It predates me. I had nothing to do with it.
And meanwhile, did our president do this weekend? You know what
he calls Yeah. This was I think is 86. Round Round. And and by
the way, he took the helicopter Yeah, he's that's, that's pretty
bad elitism right there. He's really concerned about the
American people. We do this damn press conference on Thursday.
And like, at least I can get off for the weekend and go play some
golf. Gotta go play some golf. I'm sick and tired of it. So
yeah, it's it's funny, a lot of people yesterday, were saying,
Well, you know, and I was interesting. Tom Marino of Rage
Against the Machine stopped by the tent and then he went To
play live, and a lot of people, particularly in Los Angeles
saying, Hey, man, this is kind of what happened with Woodstock
and like, Are you kidding me? Woodstock was a commercial
venture that went wrong, because people converged on it. But
people were were having sex and getting high. I don't think it
was that much about the protests. And what good did it
do? By the way? Look at where we are. Good work John's
generation. Thanks for all the love peace and happiness. How's
that working out?
I can't help it if people sold out.
Yeah, it's true. It's like the Clintons, the ones they love
peace in the crowd. Yeah. as
well. Just send us your cash. Whatever you do. So interesting.
Well, you know, by the way, there was a I hate to mention
this, but I have yet to completely cancel the New York
Times,
I thought you already canceled it keeps coming back like bad
Mexican food. So
I want to mention since we brought this up the Wall Street,
they all don't can't blame them. There's a front page story in
today's New York Times. That, I think is you know, even though
this is a cycle, these collapses this, this is the one that's
going to break this my prediction, this is what's going
to bring them the market to a halt. And it's the front page
left hand side, top story, clamping down on rapid trades
and stock market. All right reply to a Flash Crash
computerized system said to distort prices around the globe.
So they're going you know, this is the flash trading mechanism.
We talked about it before. And I've actually seen the code that
doesn't do that you have some of the code. And it's, you know,
Goldman Sachs uses it and it's used a lot. And I think it's
personally I think it's what's propping up the market.
Hmm, interesting. And so
when you pull the plug on this scam, you're going to end up
with the market is going to collapse.
You know, it's interesting you say that, and I think it's the
setup is there. There was a you know, a Jeremy Paxman on the on
the BBC, who does news and I do I like, I think he's pretty
cool. Although he probably comes across a lot dumber than he is
he had, of course, you know, the the BBC has to propagate, it
seems like it's a controlled demolition. You know, this is
the W TC seven of our time, is we're going to bring down all
the markets. And the only way, you know, I think what I've been
saying is the only way that any of this is going to be stopped
is if we completely give all political power to Brussels and
the European Union because that, of course, is the new Lehman
Brothers. And they have this shell on from the IMF, a former
Clinton advisor, and IMF director, I think Shapiro, along
with some Lord muckety muck, and well, they're basically just
propagating the meme and saying, you're here. Oh, she
wasn't she the one who's the head of enforcement during the
made off era?
No, it's a guy to go. You know, he was he was more of the
Clinton Clinton era. They're basically setting up and once
again, just like that, you know, because this is what the BBC is
doing. Just like that so called trader that everyone got all
freaked out about now. Now they're bringing these guys on,
and they're actually going like, Whoa, really, oh, this sounds
very bleak. We're still surprised
if if they if they cannot address this in a credible way,
I believe within perhaps two to three weeks, we will have a
meltdown and sovereign debt, which will produce a meltdown
across the European banking system. We're not just talking
about a relatively small Belgium bank, we're talking about the
largest banks in the world, the largest banks in Germany, the
largest banks in France, that will spread it will spread to
the United Kingdom, in part through sovereign debt problems
in Ireland, it will spread everywhere because the global
financial system is so interconnected. They are each
counted. All those banks are counterparties to every
significant bank, in the United States and in Britain and in
Japan and around the world. This would be a crisis that would be
in my view, more serious than the crisis in 2008. Yay for
exaggerating. I was
never meant yay for one world government.
Not even bringing Lord muckety muck Cabal, cheerful
complexion, but we're on the verge of a perfect storm. A
number of European countries cannot raise money. Banks are
therefore increasingly worried about the default. Therefore
people won't lend money to banks, and therefore banks won't
lend money to business. So something has to be done and has
to be done substantially across the whole of Europe. If you do
it individually, country by country, you should simply shift
the focus from one country or one bank to another. That's why
in October 2008, we obliged all the major UK banks To increase
that capitalization
so it's it's pretty interesting how they're doing this where of
course it is one world government as you point out and
oh yes look there's so great we all glommed it together this is
the this is the problem works, but now they're saying the only
way we can solve it is by one world government and all getting
together and making a good here this is 42nd make any sense?
This is because Jeremy Paxman would like war right. What needs
to happen right now? What needs to happen right now? John, what
needs to happen right now what needs to happen? I think we need
the political will or political will of this perfect storm.
Very significant agreement across Europe, to recapitalize
the banks. This problem can be solved Jeremy, it's within the
wit of man to do it.
It's within the wit of man, the wit. How's your wit doing? Can I
take some of your wit because I think if we use your wits, John,
we can solve the problem. In less unless I'm crazy. They're
saying everyone needs to pitch in to save the banks. Well,
doesn't that mean all the slaves have tears? Yeah, our taxes pony
up some money. I mean, that's like, yeah, I got here some of
my wit, no, it's going to be your pounds. It's going to be
your euros. It's going to be real money that they're that
they're basically the only this talked about this for weeks is
exactly what was predicted crossing out of the book. It's
here. And all the laws and all the taxes all going to Brussels,
the political will litical Europe's leaders to agree a
programmer as soon as possible.
Come on my wit and thus far we haven't seen it have we
know that they're talking in more urgent terms about the
plan, but we haven't got the plan. Where's the plan
for the plan? John, have you seen the plan for the plan? Or
is that still in the planning stage? I think there's a plan
for it being released. We need to plan for the meeting notes
need to get that now. Thank you very much. Do we really need two
things we
he wasn't done yet. Hey, there's still a P I still got some got a
script at my sides. Look, I didn't study these lines for
nothing. Let me finish I came I came on your satellite to read
my prompter for anyway, not only. We need not only to
recapitalize
the banks. Even more crucially, we have to come up with a
credible a credible plan to preserve the stability of the
sovereign debt of Italy and Spain.
Now we don't screw up. Let's do we just got to go down. It's all
got to go down and we all have to stop paying taxes. And it
will that'll be easy to do. By the way, that won't be such a
hard protest because you won't have any money to pay taxes.
Yeah, that's true. You get below that certain minimum. Sure. A
lot of the people that are protesting in the streets over
in Los Angeles, there are taxpayers.
Oh, no, completely broke. A lot of V for Vendetta masks, though.
That's good. It always looks good. It always does
a good look at mask. And by the way, it has a certain creepy
quality that
you can put your finger on. Have you have you noticed that V for
Vendetta is playing on cable a lot?
No, I didn't notice Oh, yeah, no,
I am. Of course he is. Hey, hey, let's have a programming
meeting. Look at the grid. What's on the grid, wipe it
clean, we need to put V for Vendetta on the kids love it.
The Massara hit. Now they are quite awesome. I have to say.
Before we get into thanking some of our producers who clocked in
today to help us out John, I do think we have to go to the most
emailed subject of the week. Drone nations I'm totally
donation, Todd Levy. Another story about drones. I'm sure you
saw this one emailed to you quite a lot and tweeted about
the virus in the drone system. virus in the drone system. So
and of course
wasn't Yeah, go on
whenever something breaks on Wired. You know, it's a plant.
Okay. So the headline computer virus has infected the cockpits
of America's predator and Reaper drones, logging pilots, every
keystroke as they remotely fly missions over Afghanistan and
other war zones. And I've got a picture of what it actually
looks like something I might have built if I wanted to create
a war room out of wood. You know, they've got little
monitors hung up, and I love it. I love how
the pilots arms and the trailers. I don't know if it's a
trailer, but it looks like it's made of wood. But yeah, it's the
it's the pilots room. Exactly. And there were a couple of
pilots and they're wearing flight suits. Just so you know,
they're pilots is the ludicrous part
about Yeah, just they did a specialist 60 minutes about
these guys, and they were wearing flight suits. Yeah,
cuz you gotta know that they're that they're, you know, they're
real pilots. And so, first of all, there's a couple of reasons
why this news was planted, because that's what it is and no
one has even remotely suggested that to me, which once again, is
it is a huge disappointment. But first of all, we have to
understand that today's National Cybersecurity Awareness Month,
we have to start right there as proclaimed by President Obama.
So by the way, John, Happy National Cybersecurity Awareness
Awareness Month to you.
Well, happy cyber security,
Cybersecurity Awareness Month
happy cybersecurity awareness to everyone in the US.
So, I have a couple of insiders in these drone program sis
admins once again. And so here's here's what came back to me,
first of all, the encryption link between these, these flight
suited jockeys, and the drones themselves are often turned off
and you can you can receive this and this is remember the guy had
video, the the intercept guy
had tapped into these things and was looking at the vet the video
coming back.
Yeah, now they they turn off encryption a lot, apparently.
Because it gets in the way, and it doesn't work really well. And
it slows down slows down. Encryption is too harsh.
Exactly. So it slows it down. But the big thing, the big
reason for this is the drone the drone programs, which by the
way, as per Robert Gates is the only I think the only part of
the defense budget, which is not allowed to get cut, because
let's face it, it's a bonanza. This is where everyone's going
into drones. The contracts are up next month. So the contract
Yes. So we have B A II, the British Aerospace. What does the
E stand for? Be a British Aerospace guys up against and
this will actually explain I think we talked about this
before this will help explain Ted Stevens apparent death by
airplane crash against the Alaska Native American Alaskan
companies. The main one being I think it's ng NJSV. I think it
is. Let me just look it up here for a second. Because he's so
these Native American companies, they are preferred vendors to
the government. The ones from Alaska. We talked about this,
right? No. And we did you just don't remember particularly
now not about drones. Yeah, it's particularly
in specifically drones. Because I remember we were talking about
it's not, it's not the predators. It's the Reapers,
it's the Reaper drones. So you've got the NJ s. V, I think
is the name of the company. They are the ones that have the
preferred status over the contract. They're running a lot
of these contracts. And of course, the when the contracts
come up for renegotiation for rebid, they have the upper hand.
So there's either two things is going on, one is up. Yeah, we've
got all kinds of hackers, it's National Cybersecurity Awareness
Month, and we need more money to secure more money more money, or
it's the Brits coming in saying, those guys suck. They can't even
keep their keyboard login secure. So this is a total war
inside the military industrial complex, just to get either more
money for an existing contract or to steal the contract away
from a competitor. It's nothing else there's no there would be
no reason to let this leak out via wired. So don't be duped by
this, this is only going to get more money into this Bonanza,
absolute bonanza of defense contracting. And by the way, I
also heard a lot of these guys who are flying these drones,
like, almost half of them are going insane. Like literally
like my sysadmin friends are saying these guys are freaking
out. Because you know, you're playing around, you're flying
your drone, you shoot it down. And then you look at the bits of
human being that you've blown up there in the sand. 1000s of
miles away. You go home. And eventually you go wait a minute,
do I just pull someone up? Yeah, and these guys are going a
little
disconcerting. Yeah, these guys are special. I think it was on
60 minutes. And they had the guys. You know, he was like, he
thought it was weird anyway, because he lived in Nevada. And
he was working out of those trailers like the ones you see
in the picture. And he would be blowing people up and then he go
home and have a nice dinner with the wife and kids. Ya know, and
it's summer in a separate, nice raw state. And it was just a
weird because he had to turn himself on and off. He's at war
when he's at home in Nevada, and then he's at war. And I think,
yeah, probably, and a lot of these people aren't looking at
take a look at the at that job.
A lot of these people aren't necessarily military people.
They're contractors brought in to do the job. Anyway, so Ted
Stevens was the guy who remove the limitation on these Alaskan
Native American companies. It used to be 20 million dollar
contracts was the limit that they would get almost like a non
bid. And he removed that which of course made him extremely
unpopular with other other fractions within the military
industrial complex. So that's probably why they got rid of
him. But it's a it's it's a it's sad. That's why I had don't draw
me bro. No one, only a couple guys got it was like
yeah, that's the kind of the sorry state of affairs that we
are trying to change. And in fact, pretty much all we got
this show is is loose change. So let's go on and thank our
executive producers. Okay, for show 2463 forces. It begins with
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completely like whoa, what's that? Oh 910 11 just flew by
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I want to thank you right so you know so I listened to I didn't
five it didn't get a lot of clips today because I didn't
find a lot of stuff going on at C span to like didn't clip a lot
and then I looked back and now this is not this boring so I
actually the clips I have I actually cut down I had that
too. I watched two and a half hours of the next gen flight
system hoping to get some nuggets about drones. Yeah. And
what I what I did learn is that are Ram e RAM which of course
means something else in our world but e RAM stands for the
hell's of stand for anyway, it's it's the platform on which all
of this is going to be built already a billion dollars into
it oh and nowhere near completion. It's it won't happen
until 2014. Another contractor bull crap. As your business week
had the Federal Aviation administration's program to
replace the current air traffic control system and the system
based on satellite technology is being held back by software
problems that have delayed is Raytheon software problems. I'm
sorry, man. We got some software problems, just more money being
sucked out of your wit to go to the military industrial complex,
but I did get two clips I count them from the the Homeland
Security Intelligence Committee hearing. Did you see that one
with Mueller? And, and the other guy, the counterintelligence
guy, the lawyer,
I was watching, I've watched part of it, I didn't get any
clips.
I got to Well, that was in the second half. So maybe you didn't
watch the whole thing. It there's relatively short. This
is Muller plan, FBI Director who was put in place in July of
2001. And of course, by law, you're only supposed to hold you
can hold it can hold that slot for longer than 10 years. But
since the guy knows so much about, I guess, 911, which came
only months after he was put into the position, and he did
such a great job in his new job, that President Obama thought he
should have an extended term so the guy is still in there,
and he'd be in forever. We're looking at the next Jad go,
arrogant prick to boot. As you know, we continue to track
current threat streams from al Qaeda, who did during the weeks
leading up to the 10th anniversary of September 11.
Other groups from the Fatah region such as TTP now who's TTP
I hear a lot about the new guys
EP, I believe is another I can look it up but it's one of the
but there's about 10 of these, and they're all with the
initials like that Pakistani based terrorist operations that
ATP
sorry, it's like TTP, kebab Shabaab, everyone's all an
affiliate of al Qaeda, they're working together similarly shown
the intent to target the United States. We saw this when TTP
claimed responsibility for the Time Square attempted bombing.
I didn't know that this is to wreak e Taliban Pakistan, this
is the students movement of Pakistan, the students? Well,
it's what they call it students on al Qaeda. The Le t is the one
that seems to be more dangerous,
didn't talk about that for the whole the whole hour and a half.
That's my main concern that all these groups encourage
radicalized Westerners, particularly US citizens to
travel overseas for training, with the potential to return to
the United States to conduct an attack.
Of course, the threat from homegrown violent extremists is
among our most serious terrorism threats today.
Individuals may be radicalized over the internet. I love how he
says that. Do you hear the cadence of him saying that
individuals may be radicalized over the internet? He sounds
like one of those old time movie newsreel announcers Walter
Winchell, is that who the guy is, but yeah, that guy's talking
like this.
Individuals may be radicalized over the internet. 10
individuals may be radicalized around the internet, violent
extremist, most serious terrorism. Now as you can see
violent extremists and individuals ratifiers on the
Internet. Today, individuals may be radicalized over the
internet, and even if they don't receive direct guidance or
training from a terrorist group, these individuals may have come
from diverse backgrounds and life experiences. Like the
technology industries living in Berkeley are in Los Angeles,
California, they could be radicalized over the internet,
as well, they may have differing motives. Increasingly, they may
act alone. And for these reasons, homegrown violent
extremists are harder to detect and disrupt. And the FBI along
with our partners is focused more than ever on this threat.
As I say the overall threatened Vironment has evolved
significantly since September 11. And this requires the FBI
and all of our partners to change and adapt constantly to
address these threats. So what was interesting, and I have one
more clip about section 215 of the Patriot Act. What was
interesting is they continuously talk about this balance, the
balance between our security and our rights. Doesn't that mean? I
mean, there is no balance to be had. There's this set of rules,
and there's what you can do without violating those rules,
but they keep talking about the balance, which to me means they
keep creeping up, which of course we know they do. And
since when is the FBI concerned with al Qaeda? Isn't that the
CIA's job? Aren't these guys supposed to like investigate
Ponzi schemes and archer Daniel Midlands and you know, Rico
fraud since one of these guys all of a sudden now Homeland
Security al Qaeda, guys, I don't understand is that what is the
mandate of the FBI?
This was brought up in another series have kind of a weird show
that was on C span that had all the 911 commissioners seated
that you know that this has been disbanded since 2004. But
apparently they've been removed a bit. There's an organization
that's kind of brings them back together for further meetings.
And they discussed this they
were more threatening, don't you dare tell the truth. Now
remember what we wrote down and one
of the things that they mentioned is the there is no
point man For the for, for what what you're hearing the FBI guy
go on and on about they don't know, should the FBI have this
should they have to do Homeland Security to do this work? I
mean, who should be doing this work? Well, they're all
competing, that that's what I, here's what they're doing.
They're all competing, and they're not talking to each
other as usual. And so, you know, you end up with a bunch
of, and not to mention the fact that there's 10,000 of these
little operations that are contractors in the entire United
States, you know, where every bad one and 10 people I think,
have worked for a security company some way shape, or form
or a spy agency. And, and they extended they don't even know
who each other is gonna be that report that came out in the New
York Times where they started looking into this and they were
just finding these hordes and hordes of these contractors that
are all on the dole. You're doing redundant work, or they're
not on the dole. The dole is something else. That's, that's
welfare. They're all on the payroll.
Yeah, well, the reality it's a Dole. It is
a government payout program true. So then, let's just hear
justification for violating United States citizens rights
and how great section 215 is of the Patriot Act. And I think
that we discussed this several, several months ago, when the
Patriot Act was re upped by President George W. Obama,
section 215, that it's all a legalese is however you want to
interpret it. And they interpret particularly the right to grab
Records as the bonanza. And this basically means that any records
of you held by any commercial interest or entity anywhere can
be seized by the government in this case as the FBI talking.
And and that, of course, is is really illegal search and
seizure and a complete violation of rights. But it's great.
According to this douchebag. You mentioned the the interagency
benefits of the Patriot Act. But can you tell me, you know, we
just recently had to reauthorize three of the more considered
controversial provisions of the of the Patriot Act, the roving,
wiretap the lone wolf provisions in the business records
provisions, how critical are those provisions for you to be
able to do your job,
they're essential, I would say some are more essential than
others to to 15. For instance, the ability to obtain records
where I took 15 really gives us the only access to obtain the
records are necessary to paint a picture of a potential
terrorists just to paint a picture.
Or paint a picture.
I just need to paint a picture just give me the records. I'm
only painting a picture of the road we were at wiretap we've
had any for any number of years in the criminal side of the
house. And in this day and age where you can dispose of cell
phones and SIM cards. Excuse me, what network are you on? Really?
Yeah, are you on AT and T Verizon T Mobile, you can just
go like discarding your your SIM card. You guys, your phone
unlocked. This is bullcrap. Within a matter of minutes, I
changed numbers and the like, it's essential to be able to
swiftly move to the new number as opposed to having to draft
another application go back to a court. Okay. So what he's saying
here is the reason why he has to be able to have roving wiretaps,
which means we can listen to you anytime you want Shut up slave,
because it's so easy to swap SIM cards. And so the roving wiretap
was important.
As both of us I think, emphasized our greater one of
the greatest concerns now or a lone actors, lone wolves. While
we have not in the past had to utilize that statute, my
expectation is that we will need it in the future as persons are
being radicalized on the internet may not be part of a
formal terrorist group. But as somebody that a foreign person,
not an American citizen, whom we need to utilize our intelligence
resources to investigate that will be instrumental. Great.
Thank you very much. Thank you very much. That's great.
So that's the meme. I mean, you hear it over and over and over
again, is that he won't say radicalized is always
radicalized on the internet on the internet. Yeah. Right. You
want to get right you can't get radicalized in a mosque
not from not from a flyer or a pamphlet.
You can't get radicalized by a right by a book. You can't get
radicalized by a newspaper or podcast radicalized by a temple
or a mosque. You can't get radicalized at a meeting you
could get but you get radicalized by the internet.
Yeah. Right. And so we maybe it's time for new T shirts
radicalized on the internet and proud of it.
With a big target on the back. I'm gonna keep the operation in
business.
Yeah, radicalized on the internet. Well, anyway,
disgusting. And let me just check and see where are the news
reports on this? Oh, gee, None. None. It's just it's just
accepted fact. It's the fact of the matter is, they've got
homegrown Eris. And it's like, you know, it's like they they're
Occupy Wall street.com She said.com Which should be.org
It's, you know, it's like the Unabomber manifesto radicalized
on the these people have been radicalized on the internet. It
is time to shoot a drone on them by
lone wolves and radicalized on the internet. Do you remember
David Headley?
Yeah, of course I remember David Headley. I beat him at poker.
No, he was he was the shoe bomber.
No.
Now that I'm wrong, who was David Headley?
Well, you know, I don't think we talked about it much. I think
that in fact, I don't think we talked about it at all because
it's all came to light after long after remember, the Mumbai
attacks had killed 160 people right? From one guy to another
saying you are you an American? Yep, yes.
Right. Yeah, he was a he was the guy that actually set up that
false flag in Mumbai wasn't he
supposedly play the 911 Commission Redux one? Oh, you
watch some good says I watch all the crap on C span.
And a radical self radicalized or sell in the United States
that is undetected and can pull off a catastrophic event here.
Now, several months ago, we had something that almost combined
both there was a person by the name of David Headley, who was a
terrorist living in Chicago, who could travel between India,
Pakistan and the United States seamlessly. And he was the guy
that planned helped plan the attacks on Mumbai, those attacks
killed 177 People in Mumbai two years ago, six Americans were
killed. And they almost started a war between Pakistan and India
that might have resulted in some kind of a nuclear war. So this
this self radicalization issue is a critically important one.
It's one we didn't look a lot at, but I think Lee and Tom have
pointed to the answer. It is designating a lead agency here
in the United States that is responsible for it, whether it's
the FBI or Homeland Security. And having spent the last couple
of years abroad, I would, I would say to you know, Tom's
five years now these self radicalized people can train
themselves on the internet. Five year timeframe is now down to
sometimes months before they can be
radicalized. It's because of the broadband you can radicalise
much faster and
be more broad. So anyway, so I'm looking into this guy, this kind
of screwed me up, you know, just typical. You get into this. So
you read about it. Actually, there's a good article in the
Wikipedia about David Headley. He was apparently a stooge for
the Drug Enforcement Administration was an informant
at the time. And then and there's something about thoughts
that he is a CIA guy with the CIA came out with a huge
statement. These guys got nothing to do with the CIA. Now
they're talking about you know, assault, Lone Wolf and what to
look for, and we're going to tap everybody's But meanwhile, they
got this guy David Coleman Headley, formerly his real name
is Don ood say, add Gilani, who changed his Pakistan name to a
crick classic American name. But I guess nobody noticed this. And
so that was sent supposedly by the ISI out of Pakistan, telling
me this isn't a bull crap story. He was sent to India as this
American to to scope out various targets for these for this
attack for the Mumbai attack. And so he went from place to
place and then apparently he did this for some other places, too.
He was like, they're the location guy. But now, Is it
logical for anyone? This is like me saying to some, like you
said, we were let's go, let's blow up a restaurant in Las
Vegas. I want I want that. And well, how are we going to which
one are we going to do? How do you think we're going to do it?
Well, let me I got a guy in France. I'm going to send him to
Las Vegas. And he's going to figure it out for us. You're
right next door in Pakistan, Pakistan is are all over India,
India's Got plenty of of Muslims of floating around, why can't
they find their own target? Why they have this guy come from
Chicago? To find this thing? This is a dubious, dubious
story. And then if you take a look at his photos, David
Headley ha de le y hit images on Google and look at this guy.
This guy is a chameleon.
You know, yeah, what what I heard is that he is mind
controlled, and that there's a lot of comparisons between him
and Breivik. The guy who shot up allegedly shot up all those kids
on the island and in Oslo that this is that these are kind of
these drugged out mind controlled wackos that the CIA
mainly controls
was that there's some there's some possibility I'm not going
along with this 100% But as You know, but but he got involved as
as an informant for the DEA because of a drug conviction
conviction so that he's kind of the lead in. So anyway, this
kind of stuff is just surrounding us. And it's just I
find it extremely annoying. But anyway, this comes out in the I
just thought it would be worth revisiting this character
overly. And if you start looking at if you look at his Wikipedia
page, what you want to do is go down to the, to the references,
and you start reading through the references of all the
different stories about him all kind of buried here in there.
But it's a very sketchy, sketchy character. And I don't even know
where how soon
we forget to John, like, remember that was that was like
pretty big, like they killed they killed 60 people, it was
168 people it was more than that. And it's just like,
whatever. Next,
and they're blaming the ISI, this may be part of the you know
that whole movement to, to screw up our relationship with
Pakistan. So we can, you know, go in there and steal their atom
bomb, which is of course, where we put down our red book years
ago.
And then we had the red. And we had the other douchebag the CIA
guy who we bought out memory he killed two, two civilians.
Right? Yeah, in Pakistan. Yeah. For some reason, that's never
been fully explained. So anyway, so this, this, they brought it
up in this in this meeting, but the one that came up next, which
is nobody really wants to address and these guys seem to
have these x commission members seem to have a bunch of
different grudges that they've I think each one of them has their
own kind of agenda, but we play clip too. We hear another one
this guy counters the lone wolf thing and he gets to the heart
of the matter. I think self
radicalization is the wrong term. There's a 500 pound
elephant in the room, kind of small elephant but
it's supposed to be a gorilla, you idiot. And that
is the Saudi will harvest network of mosques and schools
that are preaching a very austere, puritanical and
Islamist point of view. 80% of the mosques and Muslim schools
in this country get most of their funding from Saudi Arabia.
We found as many of you who watched and read the report,
watch the TV. There were many of the of the the hijackers were
given aid and assistance by the King Fahd mosque and other Saudi
funded mosques around the country. They were helped into
training at one point, the wife of the Saudi ambassador
personally wrote checks to two of them. They run a network of
400 schools around the world that preach a very Islamist
point of view, and there's no alternative. And as Ambassador
Roemer made the point during one of the hearings, it would take
at the time, less than one day's operations costs in Iraq to fund
a secular school to match every second every Saudi funded school
in in Pakistan. We haven't done any of that. We've haven't
worked with any of the more secular Islamic countries, to
build schools to give parents an alternative to the hatred and
the intolerance that they're being taught in the Saudi funded
schools. Nor to my knowledge, and your closer I know, in the
Bush administration, never was that issue ever raised with the
Saudi Arabian government.
I'm so sick and tired of this. I'm really sick and tired of it.
There is no threat. There's no threat that we're the threat.
We're going out there and we're throwing bombs on brown people
in deserts. Sick and tired of it. Kind of go back to a Wall
Street.
You got to get back to the to the tent. Yeah, it's nearly then
you'd have a I think your tent wouldn't stink.
No, Miss Mickey keeps my tent clean. But it's just Occupy Wall
Street people. This is what you have to understand. We are the
terrorists. We're terrorizing people everywhere. Not you and
me not my brothers and sisters. These douchebags elitist
douchebags military contractors, politicians. Guy it makes me so
angry. Gotta stop this. We really have to stop this you Ron
Paul won the straw. The Straw Poll of what was it wasn't a
state straw poll this time. It was a
It was it was that Christian meeting that took place where
the it was I can't remember the name of the group, but there's a
big organization. And their whole goal was to demean Romney
by calling him a Mormon. The Mormons being a cult. A good job
comes up in the conversation which became a meme. Yeah, yeah.
And so they because they these guys are raising Rick Perry's
running. Let's make that clear is because nobody in the
Republican the current wants to win. Jellicle arm of the
Republican Party wants a Mormon. Yeah. As President because they
think Mormons are not Christian.
Here's your choice, the Mormon or the moron. Which one do you
want? So they'd rather have the moron. Yeah, it's the Values
Voters straw poll.
Yeah. And just so they asked to take the vote. They picked Ron
Paul.
Yeah, yeah, it just blows me away. How you know, in the media
is they're so afraid of him. They are so afraid of
him. Mimi pointed out a little thing that's getting by us.
Again, when when see she noticed that she said C span mentions
Ron Paul. They call him presidential candidate Ron Paul.
When Fox mentions Ron Paul. They call him congressman.
Oh, interesting. Or Kook, for sure.
Well, they don't use as much. But they used to use cook the
last time around. But now it's not cooking. But it's like yeah,
you have presidential candidate Ron Paul, which gives him you
know, which is what he is? Or you just say? Yeah, he's
Congressman Ron Paul. You know that guy? It was funny. Last
week. I mean, they really the powers that be are scared to
death. Yeah. Of Ron Paul, that err to death.
That is so the best thing that we can do. But of course the
voting machines are all rigged. The Seybold mission
is there the chances of a guy like that ever getting a
presidency under these circumstances is zero. But it's
fun to watch him sweat.
I like to I like so much what he's trying to do. I really do.
I registered as a Republican to vote for him. Yeah, I know it
hurts. I don't want to be of any party, but you can't you can
vote for him in the primary in California for not a registered
Republican. So that'll show up on my record somewhere. You
know, that picture of me holding the AR 15 Assault Rifle, like
curry registered as a Republican in 2011. And at any look at him,
here's his rifle. His website was like a manifesto. He's so
radical. It
was gonna flip out. Yeah. You sound like assassination and
you'll be the guy who did it.
And the interview in the gamers
like oh, he knew that you knew that. You might as well get the
clip from me now. You know, Adam Curry was an amazing shot.
Everyone was so incredibly surprised
that out. What did they What did his partner say? That's you have
the clip? Yes, we have the clip. Adam Curry was an amazing shot.
Hey, man, I'm happy your bread and butter you know? You may you
may
the publicity. Yeah.
Yeah, okay. Coming for me, by the way, Leon Panetta. Because
you asked me about this on the last show. He was at the Sydney
on Sigonella Naval Air Base Station in Sicily, where
apparently we also have all kinds of groovy people hanging
out that we're paying for. Here's his quote, no clip of it
unfortunately. Quote, obviously, I have a hell of a lot more
weapons available to me here than I had at the CIA. He said,
although the predators aren't that bad while he's saying this
a Global Hawk took off in the background presumably on his way
to Libya. Keys No, no, I got more weapons.
Cheney was was was power crazy.
No, no, no, it's nothing compared to these guys. Nothing
at all. There's reports going around that you know, ever since
the UN Security Council vetoed essentially the same type of
action that was taken against Libya against Syria apparently
according to inside sources, Obama has now President Obama
has now called for lighting all of Northern Africa on fire. This
is gonna blow everything up just gonna be like one big drone
carpet bomb everything up there. And you know there's the Russian
leader tells top generals prepare for Armageddon.
Would you get this one? Well, that's
a Russian report, but this other report is from this Russian as
well Obama gives CIA controlled Pentagon order For military
strikes against Syria despite UN Security Council detailing I
don't know it's it's you know, these are kind of crack party
reports but it wouldn't surprise me within those
crackpot reports there tend to be couple of gems in there that
are accurate little minor thing kind of like hide them for some
reason. Well, the whole talking about Italy I do have a clip.
That's kind of interesting.
Good because I got one too. That's kind of interesting.
What's your
show after three and a half years and about three or four
movies for some reason? George Clooney has not gone on the
Letterman show because Letterman keeps grilling him about stuff
that apparently he's not supposed to talk about why
he can't keep his handler that other guy has to come on and
help George talk
some like that whatever the case was Clooney talks about his
place in Lake Como which is a hideaway of his and and the kind
of guests and visitors he gets and I don't know about you but
it doesn't make it doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense
who shows up and who you know who hangs out there because well
if you play this clip you'll see what I'm it's just kind of a
creepy I did chop it down quite a bit so I'm
gonna bunker parties. Is that what he's doing? Well, now
kinda Yeah, maybe. But just because the people that's it
that are interesting.
How are things going in Italy?
Do they still love you and your Mr. Hollywood in Italy, right?
In some ways, I am Mr. Hollywood and Middle East because there
aren't a whole lot of us there. But I think it's going well.
They have not yet kicked me out. And
what I'm getting at here is I periodically read about
gatherings you have there at your house. But they did tell me
some of the guests who arrived there and what goes on
ask me more about Vera from you guys. But you we have we have we
have fun groups of people that show like who give us an
example. Well, there was a period of time.
You know what? I heard that Bill Murray came in spent two
weeks he did. He's been there a couple of times. Couple of
times. For the love of God. Walter Cronkite stayed there
UltraChrome Walter we got Walter got a little toasty and ended up
in the lake. No, he didn't. He did he when you say toasty it
was a little man America. Let me hear that sound again. He walked
by us and he jumped in the lake and I use that I use that on
other news men when they've come to like who for example? Well
like this summer David Gergen came to do a story. Yes, this
David Gergen, former
political presidential adviser to political analyst, David
Gergen. Yes, used to be on the JIM LEHRER show with the shields
very, very, very sophisticated journalists. And then I got
Charlie Rose this summer, Charlie Rose in your new film,
by the way, playing playing himself. He does play himself
very well, by the way. Now, let's just say for a second.
Tell me about Brad Pitt. Do you feel a sexy new DNA when you're
with him in likoma?
I would be invited over there. And I'm not asking for an
invitation. Sure. And I don't drink what I have no fun not
being and you have no fun. So I know a little bit about this.
This. This is us, Cindy Crawford. And her husband
Hegerberg Randy Gerber and Randy Gerber is one of these guys who
wants to nightclubs or restaurants or he owned
nightclubs. And, and he's married.
Yeah, so the idea is that everyone goes to Italy to hang
out with George and have Buddha Bunga parties and get programmed
by the CIA who of course are controlling him?
It's what it seems like Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. The thing
is, George comes on and he acts away about this and and then
they say, look, what are you even doing this guy show?
Because it goes, Letterman is curious. We had to promote the
movie. Well, he didn't promote it because you didn't hear the
whole thing. But he didn't promote three other movies. He
just refused. They wouldn't let him come on Letterman Show. He
didn't promote a bunch of movies. And that's what
Letterman went over and he's Michi bitching about it. And
maybe maybe you saw the show.
Maybe Georgia is cracking under the pressure maybe he maybe he
he's had they did a
little chit chat about Sudan and they all the rest of it. I
didn't want to make this could could have gone on forever. But
he kept getting grilled by Letterman about this stuff. And
it was like, but I didn't say what is David Gergen doing? He
doesn't do stories for one thing, he's a consultant. And so
what's he doing? They're
passing off Cindy Crawford to everyone to have a boom boom
boom go with. Did you see? No you didn't I'm sure but I you
know, I do try once in a while to see what the idiots human
resources are watching as I watch Dancing with the Stars.
And me crap.
Tell me about it. And George Clooney Ionis ex girlfriend was
on. She's a total idiot. I mean an absolute idiot and effed up
like really frustrated and she can't dance. She's off the show.
But I was like, really? I mean, that's, that's I mean, she's
like a presidential model, MK Ultra, Project Monarch, nothing
else. You watch. Put this in the book, this girl whatever her
name is, it will queue will come out and she will talk about she
was a mind controlled sex slave for George Clooney at the Bongo
Bongo parties. Now you can write it in the book, write it in the
book.
I'm writing it down.
Now I want to call back to something that you introduced to
us. The NBC, ABC, CBS have all agreed that they now can use the
word vagina on their shows, because let's face it, there's
nothing funnier than a vagina. I mean, I wake up some days. First
thing I do is I crack a vagina joke. So I have two clips, just
to show you the ID and we'll figure out what this is about.
By the way. I'm not sure what it is. Parks and Recreation which I
have not seen several people alerted This to me and one of
our producers actually sent me the clip on another drink.
And so will this adorable hunker up caramels. Am I right? Drink
up, Tom. I'm gonna go out of my nose. Amongst other things. If
you know what I mean. She's gonna powder her vagina.
Really?
Boy, that's lame. And then we have Erin Burnett.
Your buddy. Yeah. Who, by the way is engaged. She just got
engaged to get married to an executive from city Corp. Yeah,
that's not a conflict. So Erin Burnett, she apparently on CNN
is not allowed to save vagina. She can't In fact, she can't
even use a replacement word. The word? Here's the secret word.
The word you will not hear in this clip is pussy.
So we cover a lot of serious stories on the show. But here's
one that is more serious. Lee, business and religious leaders
in Italy have called for the resignation of Prime Minister
Silvio Berlusconi as groups across the country held protests
against his government. Now Berlusconi's political party
nicknamed Forza Italia or go Italy is suffering record low
popularity and this week, the Ratings agency Moody's actually
downgraded the country's debt, adding to the economic pain.
That is not the reason the story makes us say seriously. No, that
is because of what Berlusconi said yesterday. During a meeting
with his party deputies, Berlusconi joked that because of
his party's terrible polling numbers and his own reputation
for shall we say carousing, they should change the name of their
party from go Italy to something else. The new name he suggested
is much too inappropriate for me to repeat on any television
channel nevermind in a family show, but other members of the
press have tried to describe the name of the party in in English
so one said quote, It was a Reuters said quote, a vulgar
slang term for female genitalia. And then Reuters took it a step
further and added, also use to describe an attractive woman and
the telegraph who said the meaning of the word, quote, can
range from bathe to crumpet to the female genitalia. Well,
Berlusconi says demands for his resignation are absurd. In fact,
he's so unfazed by the issue that today he's in
Russia. So she can't say the word pussy. I think she could
have said it's a slang for vagina. What is this? I
can't say that then. But the question on my mind is this
definition that she beats around the bush and by the way, she
seems very halting. She doesn't say she's not very unrelaxed
doing the show. She is not gonna she's gonna
lose you're gonna fail. You're gonna fail on this show. Fail
written all over and show she she's Herky jerky. She can't
read. She also said the family show, really? To new show. I'm
sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. being hurt. I'm sorry. I'm
sorry. Seriously,
right. But when is the word pussy describe an attractive
woman. Oh, there's a push. Pull. Crump is what it was. She
said. Reuters apparently said it can also be a word for crumpet.
I don't get that I don't want to Crump it is maybe we get some
maybe it's a different word. No, no, no,
no, because I checked this with the Italy pianos and they say
it's pussy was the pussy party.
Well, their definition stinks. Okay, anyway, that's beside the
point. I like that makes you nervous to listen to her talk.
crumpet. A thick, flat savory cake with a soft, porous texture
made from a yeast mixture cooked on a griddle and eaten toasted
and buttered crumpets. Yeah, that sounds like it to me.
Trumpet crumpet Crump it. It was just just surprising to me.
That's news,
people. CNN is bad.
I don't know why I want to watching it so much. Because I
think because they're so clueless. I just can't help
myself.
I don't watch it. I watch it. And then I can't I don't
actually watch CNN as much as I watch Fox.
No, no, I can't watch Fox at all.
Yeah, well, that's good.
Meanwhile, boots on the ground coming soon for Libya. There's
no doubt about it. This has got to happen. It's falling apart.
As you know, now we've got the Libyan forces Qaddafi's forces
are winning, that kick in these, these jabroni his ass on the
ground. And, of course, you know, that's like, the way it's
described in, in news reporting, as well, you notice some, oh,
there's some problems not come from problems here. And they're
not going to well, you know, the TNC can't actually function very
well, because, you know, people are like, oh, there's problems
you watch, because we've got to make that play safer for the oil
companies to go in and start drilling, and start taking over
everything and buying everything up to these violent flare ups,
rivalries. warring factions within the governments. Everyone
is getting their knives out. According to the Tripoli
civilian stabilization team, and the Prime Minister are unelected
I mind add Jabril Juju Jabril. The educated in the United
States is deeply unpopular in the capital and other parts of
Libya. boots on the ground soon. The hidden you know, the the
companies who funded all this are going to be calling for it.
boots on the ground. Hey, we need some boots here. Right now.
Well, yeah, I don't know what did this whole thing is. And
also now I noticed the even though the New York Times has
not approved it yet, there seems to be a lot more coverage of
whatever's going on in Syria.
Yeah. This of course, is only because Obama has given the
order to go and hellfire that place. If it does fit in with
the theory, it fits in because I'm seeing it too. There was
another there was a note not not a speech, but a note from Obama,
saying Assad has to step down and step down now. So they're
just disregarding the UN, which of course is on one hand is
good. But, you know, all they have to do is just turn the
predators left. You know what, maybe they'll find an American
self radicalized on the internet terrorists. They can go drone.
Yeah, Mr. B and spend the night at the, at the Holiday Inn in
Syria
in Damascus. Well, that was that was kind of funny. So again, I
have because he's back on now. He's back on the air. Judge
Napolitano. So he has this great to
keep him off the air for this period. Period of the shooting.
So they get get berate him for theme and thinking about talking
about
it. Right. Well, he's all over it now. And I he has a good
rant. And then I have another Ralph Nader that Ralph Nader
has, I don't know, man. I'll talk about him in a second first
into politics on a rant, which is
and now a few items from our freedom files. Tonight, we're
learning of a secret government panel that decides who goes on
the government's kill list. List that includes Americans, your
federal government makes such decisions in secret with an
unknown unelected group of bureaucrats. There is no
oversight. There is no public record, there are no rules about
the secret panels activity. And of course, no laws establishing
such a list or such a panel, the secret panel of current and
former government officials informs the president who he
should kill and this very panel is responsible for ending the
life of an American citizen Anwar al aulaqi, a man who had
alleged terrorist ties but was never charged with a crime never
tried in a court of law, as his constitutional rights to due
process require. Oh, the hypocrisy of President Barack
Obama is just stunning. When then Senator Obama was
campaigning to become president. He denounced the way in which
then President George W. Bush used his executive powers.
President Obama, the hypocrite now has blood on his hands and
now has many people wondering what other secrets is he hidden
in the West Wing? And who might be killed next?
Is it you who might be killed next? That's a fighting word
that like that from the judge, by the way on Syria, and
actually went back two weeks ago, our buddy Randy Corbin,
better known as aka Andy Carvin from NPR, national treasure was
retweeting all these horrible pictures and videos. Have this
girl who in her head was chopped off and she was burned and Syria
and they're horrible on Assad is great. So she shows up alive on
Syrian TV shows her ID and says no, I just ran away from home.
And then the BBC comes out with his whole report, which you can
look at in the show notes. 346 dot n a show notes.com I got the
video. Of course, damage control is an order here. And so they
said, Well, we know it's clear. It's obvious how these poor
parents could have made this mistake. You know, and oh, I'm
we're still not sure it's actually her after all it is to
Syrian state TV. The girl looks exactly like her. It's her.
She's not dead. I thought I retweeted Randy, the Hey Randy.
Nice retweet, dude.
Maybe that doesn't respond. Course. Now you're just a pest.
I am a pest. But it's just like really? It's so wag the dog. She
shows up. No, I'm not dead. Here I am. I'm just I'm okay. So
Ralph Nader I've never really paid attention wait
before you go on to that let me just back up to the annapolitan
thing I do want to throw something in yeah because the
New York Times again the Sunday paper on the other main story
besides the the rapid stock trading is this one which is the
headline secret US memo made legal case to kill a citizen
Yeah, yeah. Well we're not allowed to see a said memo.
No, but it was what it was it was let me just read this graph
because it kind of is funny. Well as it were, Obama
administration secret legal memorandum that opened the door
to killing of Anwar al walkie the American born radical Muslim
and they always say American born says saying an American
citizen hiding in Yemen found that it would be lawful only if
we're not if it were not it would be lawful under the
circumstances which I find dubious Okay, circumstance was
found that he would not be lawful. It would be not be
lawful if it was feasible to take him alive. So
so hard, he was driving in a car. How hard is that? Maybe we
couldn't take him alive. Yeah, you know what, it's atrocious.
And this is this is the disappointing thing of Occupy
Wall Street. When I'm walking around with don't drone me bro
that no one understands. They don't understand it. They have
no idea what the implications are Ralph Nader now this is a
comes right into Ralph Nader that what you were just talking
about? But he's a consumer advocate. Is this guy any good
or not? Because I'm liking what he's saying. You've known him
for a lot longer, obviously, because the guy has always
been an interesting character. thorn in the side of the liberal
establishment and that thorn in the side of the Republican
establishment, he's a thorn in the side.
So he could take over either one of our roles on the show. If one
of us gets dry,
it's not as funny as we are.
Well, that's true. He has no humor. But I was laughing out
loud when I heard this because he just nails it and the
President make himself judge, jury and executioner and kill an
American anywhere on the planet. Home, the president alone has
decided perhaps in consultation and secret with others is a
danger to society and to national security. That's not a
president, that's a dictator. That's a complete violation of
due process, separation of powers, you don't put in the
White House and our framers as you know so well, with your
books, the founders of our republic, refused, I say refused
Article One, Section Eight, to begin with, to put the power to
exercise violence abroad and plunging nation into a war in
the hands of the president. He has done that. Now. He has
outdone bush in his unconstitutional behavior, not
just with what you described, but he also attacked Libya
without any war resolution nevermind declaration of war
from Congress, without any authorization or appropriation
of money. That's the way to dictator he took a billion
dollars himself and put it on the war and route the Congress
like a potted plant did nothing.
He's a dictator. That's what I always say we want regime
change. We want to take the evil dictator out who was killing his
own people. And get rid of all the corrupt politicians and the
military industrial complex that has nothing to do with 99%.
There was some other guy in staying on Anwar al aulaqi. l
actor, Terry Greenberg. Some congressmen I forget who he was,
and he was grilling, the Muller and the Olson, I guess from the
counterintelligence lawyer, lawyer, about Anwar al aulaqi.
Very interesting how forthcoming and transparent this
administration is. Director Muller If Chairman Rogers were
alarmed, this is my house. From the Homeland Security Committee,
we were doing work on a Lucky's involvement prior to 911. And
back in May, May 26 of this year I sent a letter to the Attorney
General Eric Holder, asking him for any letters communications,
whatever between the Justice Department FBI, dealing with a
Locky prior to September 11. It's been out for months, we've
got no response at all, from the attorney general or from the
FBI. As I'm saying that that'll lucky with us for the lucky when
he was here in the United States prior to September 11. dealings
that our government may have had with him contacts we had with
him communications with him prior to September 11. And we've
got no response at all. We've dealt with the FBI legislative
affairs, we've got no response at all on that and outs of a
form once is there any drive any reason to believe that we're not
going to get the information involving the FBI is dealings
with the lucky and just departments dealings with the
lucky? No, and I quite obviously, I'll go back and
check and see what has happened to the response to that letter.
And we will get a response to you I will say, without looking
at it, but being somewhat familiar with the circumstances
of September 11, and are lucky. So as he came to our attention
subsequent to September 11. And throughout the years, I do not
believe there was contact prior to September 11 with a Locky.
But I would have to check on that and get you a definitive
response in response to your letter. And we will do that.
Especially because I do know, I do believe that the FBI did an
investigation from back in 1999 or 2000. They just wanted to
what we knew about a Lucky's activities in the US prior to
911. What, at what contacts you have any of the hijackers prior
to 911. And then also a dealings with them immediately after 911.
We'll get back to you on that level, especially if you were
the fact that he was even invited to the Pentagon after
911 To give a discussion on moderate Islam and how that
contrasts where we actually knew about him at the time. Okay,
thank you. Yeah, I'll get back to you on that. prediction for
the Red Book. This guy is going to have an unfortunate heart
attack because he's clearly not on board with the program. Who
is this congressman? Oh, that guy ixnay on a Locky cake. Dude,
stop the with the tough questions you didn't get a lot
of Don't you understand? You get to respond. So don't you get it?
Shut up. He's one of ours. He was an asset we put him in and
we got him out shish shish. Shish. I also don't think Ralph
Nader's heart is doing too well.
But really had a stroke some Yeah, there you go.
Let him down. And they'll probably get him in the hot tub
with hookers. And yeah,
I don't think it's you know, he's these he's already been
marginalized. And they need these guys floating around and a
certain amount of crackpots out there. And they you know, six
days harmless. That's the point. I mean, Brian Paul's getting
some traction. So he's like a little more of a target. But I
don't think Nate or anything.
Okay, well, this Congressman better watch it. He's asking.
He's asking. He's a little annoying.
Well, he's obviously needs to be taken aside, the FBI.
The FBI guy, Muller actually said, Well, you know, we didn't
have any contact with him. No, you did, actually. And, in fact,
that's been reported that he had contact with two of the
hijackers. And what are you talking about? Man? Shut up.
Shut up. Shut up. I'm bored with the program. Don't you want your
presidential model? Idiot
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Congratulations, Adam on your decision to move to the Lone
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first of all, thank you so much. I got a lot of emails from
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we should possibly have. She's a woman.
Yeah. Which by the way is designated as her stuff. Like
her stepmom my couch isn't what do you what do you mean your
couch to a Kemosabe? What is going on with that?
Do you find that when you we find you kind of washed up on
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we'll understand it better.
We'll know more now
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money. And it's highly appreciated that people are
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the new place. And so far I've only gotten crackpot hacienda,
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I don't like that. I don't like Batcave. That sounds to Alex
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That's not bad. We're selling some music there. No agenda
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we don't plug it often enough. There's like a hot chick dancing
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we had to figure out what this is really all about
it well there's some there's something going on with it
some something demeaning or there's something. I don't know
what it is our code. It just doesn't. It doesn't sound right.
That there and then the shows that are using it. They're using
it gratuitously.
It's not fun. It's just not fun. It's
not fun me if it was funny. It's not a funny word.
No. So why is this happening? I just don't understand. I did see
a report the other day that women are much more powerful
than men in America. And there's the Peter Pan syndrome that men
are like, you know, becoming all feminine. And we mainly talked
about this already. But then can we tie that into the vagina
thing?
It's a possibility. But it's it maybe it's it's I don't know
what me we would some sociologists listen to this show
has to help us here. Hopefully, we'll
figure it out. Because it is quite distressing. Because you
know, the news about this memo. And this agreement was only a
couple of weeks ago, most of the shows were in the cam, I think.
Yeah, well, it was in the New York Times. So that was good to
go. Right. Right. And then it's just kind of blossomed from
there.
Why do I think all these shows should be taken off the air?
Because it's just not funny. It's not I have yet to laugh
about it. It's like, when you were a kid, did you ever use the
word vagina and crack up? Never. Except now? No, apparently you
like it? No, but I mean,
how can only cracking up at the stupidity of it.
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The move is going to be expensive but it will save you
money in the long term because it'll just cost a living and
Austin's not much lower. Well that's a that but it's the cost
of your environment. I mean, the nightmarish town of Los Angeles
with that traffic and the people and
and I got to sell the car. Tell me about I got to sell the cars
I got a I'm gonna sell the Saab and the Range Rover.
Well, if you if you're living in Austin, you don't have to drive
in Austin.
Well, I'm not we're not in the town itself. We're outside the
town we joke. Oh, vagina, you gotta end it with that. So I
know that it's funny. China so maybe we can do something with
the sob maybe we can wreck it. Drive it off Mulholland Drive.
Yay. No, I'm gonna be I can fake my death.
You know, there's an area over here by Mount Tamil pious where
apparently people have just driven their car off the side of
the cliff. And there's like a pile of these cars down in the
in the gully because it's literally impossible to get them
out. And they're off the cliff and then they did make the
insurance claim.
How about one I put it on eBay. Maybe someone will send in a lot
of money for it. Maybe you can bid that up. So good car, and I
will we'll both autograph it's a great car. You kidding me? The
kids took it to San Francisco and back it made it it's good
news. And the Range Rover we decided to sell the Range Rover
which is a fine 1999 Range Rover with low mileage cars we were
driving around Guess what you don't see on the roads there no
Range Rovers
just tons of them up here
I know but nothing in Austin and that means no parts
oh that's when I'm oh that's what you're
yeah no I'm not gonna be driving around in a 12 year old car we
would there's no spare parts or everyone's driving big made in
Texas Toyotas now okay so we're gonna
Yeah No it's actually good i We used to have a long years and
years ago I went to Fiat and there was this guy called you
know Tony Believe it or not x it again Tony good for yeah and but
he was like a local independent mechanic who love Fiat and as
long as you had a guy if you have a guy that loves a car
yeah, the car runs like a champ that's what I
got here. I got Hovik Hovik the Armenian who who does British
cars exclusively. And I guess I'm just gonna go to him and say
Look, can you find anyone who wants to buy this but the sob
I'm thinking that might be an eBay auction.
Yeah, it would be probably Yeah, probably pick up a couple bucks.
I mean, it's a good car. There's no doubt about 117,000 miles
so what are you going to do well how are you going to get when
you're in Austin What do you rent the car or we're
going to buy something they're going to take light on the spot
we're going to take our winnings from from selling these
automobiles and and buy you know like a Toyota or some you know a
made in Texas Toyota I might add Yeah, because that's what
everyone's driving if you want if you want a car that's going
to stick together you want one of those now i With all respect
but the Range Rover is a piece of shit
British car would expect
I mean it is great as an Urban Assault vehicle but the you know
the relays are always burned out and this doesn't the electronics
they don't know how to do electronics in Britain suck it's
pretty car. It looks nice. Looks mean I like it. At the SAAB is
the deal though. That's the deal. Now what I what I spent on
$3,000 Something like that. Yeah, and I drove what maybe
4000 Miles maybe. So that's well worth it. Well, yeah, we'll see
what we do with that. So again, thank you all very much enough
about my personal trouble
Alright, let's look at the list. Mark on exile says Happy
Birthday to his wife Janelle And mark her Danielson congratulates
himself he turns 47 today and Tim Johnson says Happy Birthday
to his buddy Shawn left which from Jacksonville, which I guess
might be Jacksonville, Florida. He's celebrating on the 10th
That'll be tomorrow. Happy birthday from all your buddies
here the no agenda show. And no knighthoods today,
unfortunately. I do have a crazy story about Gitmo nation low
lands. Crowd CrAu. So, this happened actually, when we first
started the show, it started to happen all across Europe. I
think it started in Gitmo nation east where they were putting new
trains in. And these trains would not have any bathrooms
members joking about that. You don't remember
Yeah, no, I do remember that you do. No joking matter. Yeah.
So same thing now. In Gitmo nation lowlands. There'll be
putting trains in without bathrooms. Now you have to
understand that whenever there's really bad weather, the trains
often get stopped in the middle of the track. derailment is a
lot of suicides. Actually.
People stop in the middle of bad weather one time I was on the
high speed rail in Sweden, going from Stockholm to Gothenburg and
this is this famous train they have which is makes you sick to
be on it by the way and they stopped because there was a cow
on the tracks and we stopped for a good 40 minutes because they
couldn't get the cow to move
if I were running that train. I'd say hamburger for lunch.
No probably wouldn't knock the thing over
anyway since this happens a lot but they don't want to go
through the you know we have the slaves are meant to just be on
the train and shut up. So let's say you're stuck for 40 minutes.
They will now the trains will come equipped with P bags. What
yeah P bags. The bags have a cup shaped plastic tarp and contain
a highly Listen to me. The bags have a cup shaped plastic tarp
and contain a highly absorbent material that turns urine into a
gel like mixture. After use the bags can be sealed and thrown in
the trash
or thrown at someone. So
instead of toilets to pee in the bag slave
This is in it's in the middle of time rationale for this again,
because people are going to drop bombs down the toilet.
Yes. Yeah, security, whatever. I don't know. It was too much of a
hassle to put toilets in the train. So here's your bag slave.
Pee in the bag.
Yeah. Just like that idea where you strap people into unit of
work the best security system somebody put put a thing
together, where you'd have everybody basically handcuffed
to their seats in the airplane. Yeah, right naked. Yeah. Or if
you get up in there, you've got a necklace on that shocks you
say? Hi. Yeah, playing the bag. That was an actual that was an
actual proposal.
Oh, no, I remember we talked about it. And that was
absolutely. You get a jolt of electricity.
The Wrong button. Oh, sorry. Oh, lady. Yeah, no, it's
awesome. To pee in the bag. Slave and shut up. There was no
yeah. Oh, yeah. No, it's bad over there. There was another
thing in Gitmo nation loaded up
in the beggar they have a little room you can go into
to pee. No, you just turn around pee in your seat. Yeah. Yeah.
And you can't get up because we're gonna zap you we're gonna
tase you, if you get up,
pull out your your deck and you start peeing right there next to
some old woman or get this,
you know, get this. You pull out your vagina. Yeah, that's what
it is. It's fantastic. Unbelievable. Yeah, no, it's not
unbelievable. It's true. So what's happening to there was
I'm looking for this. I kept this link somewhere. So they're
the gateway nation. lowlands is now implementing a top secret
tunnel at the airport at Schiphol Airport, which includes
it has all kinds of non disclosed stuff. And it's the
new way of checking people at the airport. And it's literally
a tunnel and you walk through the tunnel. And it's scanning
you and throwing radiation at you and all kinds of stuff. And
so I can't find the link. It's I have it somewhere. The guy in
charge of this literally said, privacy is for the bathroom. It
has no place at the airport. Yeah, can you believe that?
Privacy has no privacy is for your bathroom? Well, guess what?
It ain't gonna last long before you named private there either.
What is probably already, what is the point of putting everyone
in a tunnel? Now it seems that I think we've talked about this,
but I've never made an actual prediction that one of these
days I mean, the biggest bottleneck in the airport, the
best way if you are a terrorist to doodle a lot of damn blow up
the tunnel is to blow it up, blow yourself up in the tunnel
or blow yourself up in the in the in a really long waiting
line for the for the body scanners. And you know, just do
it there and it take you take out at least as much as an
airplane, it would scare the crap out of everybody. What
would they do? Got to make an appointment to go through the
TSA, you have to okay, we had you know, people have to be
scattered all over the place. And they make Adam curry Adam
curry. And you'd have to then get up and come in. I mean,
well, how would this work? If somebody did that?
Well, I think he's gonna do it. I think it's well established,
John, that all of this is just bullcrap. And it's just to keep
us afraid and to keep us in line and keep us as good little
slaves. And to up the ante on the military industrial complex.
It's a bonanza. We're stupid that we don't know when I should
be selling a tunnel. Curry to where I consulting brings you
the security squirrel tunnel. Anyway, so there were two more
links that were some of the most passed on outside of the virus
on the drone before it's crap. It's pretty crap. So this news
came to most people through CNET of all places. This is about
fast. The new Department of Homeland Security future
attribute screening technology. Yeah, designed to track and
monitor body movements voice pitch changes. Oh, prosody
changes once a pro alterations in the rhythm and intonation of
speech, eye movements, body heat changes and breathing patterns.
Well, then Aaron and Aaron is going to have a real problem.
Yeah,
a field test was performed at a large venue earlier this year
undisclosed. So that's probably the Super Bowl. And documents
recently obtained through a Freedom of Information Act
requests indicate that testing is proceeding on other members
of the public as well. Which of course is you're not it's so the
acronym is fast, the future attribute screening technology.
So that's one that was interesting to note and of
course, DSM DHS as well, you know, it's just whenever we're
going to use this. We're just testing it The other one was the
FBI is next generation identification system, which is
facial recognition. And there's a interesting link on the FBI
website itself. Driven by advances in technology, customer
requirements, really customer requirements or customers they
have and growing demand for integrated Automated Fingerprint
Identification System Services. The FBI has initiated the next
generation identification program, this program will
further advance the FBI as biometric identification
services now, I've been telling you about this, this is what the
naked body scanners are about, because they are taking your
biometric information. Now this is it's recording that so these
capabilities will be introduced across the multi year timeframe
within a phased approach. It will offer state of the art
biometric identification services providing a flexible
framework blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then there's a
whole bunch of things about how this is going to work. But
essentially, this facial recognition system which is
exactly the same technology that Facebook uses, and as you
recall, in the Time magazine article, about when Mark
Zuckerberg was on the cover of the Time magazine article, the
Robert Mueller pops his head in around the corner of the
conference room door and says hey, I was in the building just
wanted to say hi coincidence I think not but another thing that
I thought was kind of interesting is a will also do
recognition of tattoos. Which is probably really good. Because
you know, everyone these days got a tattoo. And it apparently
does very well with
why is that really good? What? It does recognition of tattoos
well, because everyone has a tattoo ever these I mean the
we've been so duped into this tattoo culture that now you know
facial recognition ugly
self imposed. Yes, identification. Exactly. Just
tattoo your social security number on
your arm. Exactly. That's exactly it. It's like
being in the concentration camp and and voluntarily getting your
tattoo.
Now listen to this very carefully close up photos of an
arm tattoo. Currently, the IAF is that's the system can accept
photographs with criminal 10 prints submissions. The
interstate photo system will allow customers who are the
customers do they have like a store? The FBI customers to add
photographs to previously submitted arrest data. Listen to
this submit photos with civil submissions. What does that mean
John? Facebook I suppose thank you and submit photos in bulk
formats. The IPS will also allow for easier retrieval of photos
and then kliger Yes, and include the ability to accept and search
for photographs of scars marks and tattoos instead literally
saying civil submissions they're going to go search Facebook oh
my god deleted delete your account. Quickly.
This is the time to get that you know those those tattoo? decals
that you can get their temporary stay on for like, Right Is it
time to get US Marines on your left arm? Yeah,
we need this to be selling those that knowledge in the nation.com
Yeah, we need
some phony tattoos that say something that people can wear
him and they make sure they get their picture taken when they go
through TSA and then from Facebook gold. Yeah. Is it at
the tattoo? No, no, that's the one that guy
okay, I've got the article it's in Dutch. The i a TA that's who
doing this the international air traffic something to it's called
the checkpoint of the future. Travelers will be selected on
the basis of their booking and information from security
services.
This talk about here about a biometric passport scan. Oh if
you had the biometric passport scan whatever that is something
else new coming down the pike you can you can keep walking
that you go into the tunnel so you don't have to take off your
shoes you can just carry your own bag with the bomb and and
apparently but if you're if we know who you are known
passengers have nothing to worry about. You can go through a
separate tunnel. It's just going to all going to be going through
the tunnels. Jeez. Privacy is is for the bathroom. Not when it's
about flying safely. Says smoker mum over this guy is That's
great. Right? Okay, so back to the tattoos. Great idea. We need
to get us some tattoo. Maybe if we all just have the same one.
The same tattoo that'll screw up the system? Yeah, I probably
would. Yeah, everyone. Yeah, we should get some of those
tattoos. I liked that idea of a lone wolf with a no agenda thing
on it. I think enough. Yeah, Wolf tattooed be good. Oh. So
something we haven't talked about, but which did take place,
and I've had it in the show notes for the past two shows is
that ACTA was signed. This is the intellectual property
agreement amongst I think it's 53 nations that the Obama
administration said was so egregious, I mean, so, so great,
that they couldn't tell us about it, because it would cause
rioting in the streets. I'm paraphrasing, but I think that's
kind of what they said. And we've been talking about actor
for a long time. And so the United States signed it, the
China's signed it, the United States of Europe has not signed
it, but are fully expected to sign it. This took place just a
couple of weeks ago. And now, there's a draft that's floating
around, which is very, you know, it talks about the disconnect
your internet and all this stuff. And I don't have any more
information on it. I guess, eventually, since this is the
most transparent administration in our nation's history, I'm
sure there'll be posting that on the internet sometime soon. But
there was a conference. And this is of the World Intellectual
Property Organization. And some douchebag was talking about the
internet. And in regards to intellectual property and
patents, I just thought it was interesting to hear what the
general thinking is about intellectual property as it
pertains to the internet, let
me just remind you, if I made that intellectual property is a
very flexible instrument. It's a very flexible instrument. So for
example, had the worldwide web been able to be patented. And I
think that's a question in itself. Perhaps the amount of
investment that has gone into or would be able to go into basic
science would be different. So if you had found a very flexible
licensing model, in which the burden for the innovation of the
World Wide Web had been shared across the whole user community,
in a very fair and reasonable manner, and with a modest
contribution for everyone, for this wonderful innovation, it
would have enabled an enormous investment in turn in further
basic research.
So I'm thinking it's possible. Since we've had all this talk of
changing the patent system, and as always talk about changing
patents, maybe they're gonna award a patent to someone for
the internet, and then we'll wind up having to pay for it.
That may be that may be the egregious part of
it, that would that would end the world as we know it, that
scheme, but it's not good. That's no.
The same guy, I did learn something from this guy. This is
kind of interesting. It has nothing to do with that. But it
does have to do with patents, where I disagree with everything
is saying, but I didn't know this.
And that is the sort of flexibility that is built into
the intellectual property system. It is not a rigid
system, it can be used in a vast variety of manners in which to
encourage innovation. And indeed, one of its other roles
is the sharing of knowledge, because it is put together the
most accessible and systematic record of humanity's technology.
And the example I like to use is of the saxophone, which is the
only instrument in the classical orchestra that has ever been
patented, and it was patented in 1842 by Atul sacks. And over the
ensuing period of 30 or 40 years, a number of improvements
were indeed patent patented to the SEC space Alpha Adolf sacks
himself, but by a number of other inventors improvements in
the mouthpiece, we ended up with a much better saxophone, which
fell into the public domain over 100 years ago, as a piece of
technology. And you can contrast that of course with the violin
where nobody knows how the violins of Cremona in the 18th
century were made because the secret was lost.
I didn't know the saxophone was patented.
I didn't either. I think his point is specious and bullcrap.
Oh well, of course, because you know if the side foam were
patented today, it wouldn't be in the public domain for another
1000 years. Yeah, Disney. Oh, Disney would own it.
But yeah, no, no, I don't know where this guy is headed? Well,
no, we're not gonna be no, they're gonna they can't do it.
They're not gonna, it's
not gonna happen. Well, you know, then what will it be? I
mean, there's going
to be it's going to be considered a broadcast medium.
And it's going to be something that the FCC has to control,
because it's a form of communications Federal
Communications Commission. And that's that it's going to be
easy.
Well, I mean, your statement as that would be the end of the
world was much closer to the reason that the administration
was giving for not making the active document public. And by
the way, what gives our government the right to go sign
stuff with other countries without showing it to us? I'm
sorry, the same the same guys who can go kill people with a
drone based upon a secret kill list? I'm sorry, how silly am I?
I should have known better. Dum Dum, dum, dum dum.
So when we finish the show, we're gonna play a clip, which
is Ken Burns, who actually is quite entertaining. And this
guy, I think he's been altered by this special that was done on
PBS, which I recommend people watch. Who's Cameron's called
prohibition to three part series. And you get if you have
an iPad, you can watch it on your iPad with the National
Treasure app. And it's very interesting this this is
documented as a bunch of stuff that was uncovered, at least by
the documentaries that is unique. And it also applies to
what's going on, you know, in California, they are going out
of their way to shut down all the medical marijuana place. Oh,
yes. Do an extreme I got the millennials. Oh, by the way,
didn't Obama say that this was not going to happen? You dumb
Californians who voted him in?
Yeah, this is so I have a clip of Melinda Hague when she would
pronounce Ha, in Dutch. Who, Mickey, by the way, pointed out
has a very cool haircut when I was listening on the headphones,
because like, Oh, I love her hair. I'm like she's a
douchebag. Oh. So there are reasons for this. Shut down.
And, John, I think our California State Government
should bring out the National Guard and shoot anyone who tries
to close down the pot stores. I agree that they have no right to
do this whatsoever. But maybe if it's about the children, maybe
we'll all agree, John. I think it's about the children
shows that there's a you know, it's bogus
reason for the security guards and fences, where there's
marijuana, there's money, and lots of it. These places are
prime targets for robberies and violence. Despite the fact that
these marijuana stores operate in violation of federal law and
oftentimes in violation of state law, we simply don't have the
resources to address them all. In the Northern District of
California, I have decided to focus initially on stores that
sell marijuana and allow people to smoke marijuana very close to
schools, parks and other places where children learn and play.
Last week, we sent letters to the landlords and lien holders
of these stores, putting them on notice that marijuana is being
sold and used on their property in close proximity to children,
and that the operations must cease. It's better. I understand
there are people in California who believe marijuana stores
should be allowed to exist. But I trust that these same people
will all agree we don't need retail marijuana outlets across
the street from playgrounds and schools, and Little League
fields. So
Little League throws that in. So here's the problem. I can tell
you why this is happening. The children, schools, parks, and
Little League fields. That is the government's turf. That's
where the we sell Adderall and Zoloft and Xanax legally we push
these drugs legally on children. You can't have like some some
natural plant weaseling in on our business get out of there.
This is our federal turf. We are the ones that supply the drugs
to the children not you locally. That's what this is about. They
don't want kids using a plant that might actually cure them
have some ailments
literally like that theory
it's not a theory it's it's the
right it's factor. The fact of the matter is I think that I
think that this scenario is the theory but your your factual and
all your assertions.
Yeah, I mean, what happens when your kid is a little crazy? I
have spoken to so many Mickey talks to a lot of our friends
here have kids and like two kids maybe and one kids little
hyperactive the school of me immediately, immediately, oh, I
think we should know that there are medication for this child
and should get her some Adderall or whatever is drugs immediately
drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs. Take the kid to the
psychologist with a psychologist say, we're gonna start you off
with a really low dose of Adderall. It is beyond me. You
know, marijuana in Jamaica, which is where I started smoking
the marijuana before I quit over two years ago, and by the way,
you don't have to smoke marijuana. If you smoke it,
yeah, you're gonna get high. But in Jamaica, when the kid has
like colic can't sleep or has a stomach ache or is teething,
they put a little leaf, a little hemp leaf into the kids drink.
And it cures it. It's a it's a magical plant. By the way. It's
a plant. You don't have to process it. You don't have to do
anything to it. You can just take it, eat it, smoke it, drink
it, whatever. And it's illegal because they don't want you to
witness the power of it. No, we sell you the drugs. Cool hairdo,
though.
So now what's this woman's name?
Melinda Haag H AG. She is the Attorney General for the state
of California. Yay. Yes, I think so.
Now, yeah. She's an assistant or something. She can't be the
attorney.
She's an assistant Assistant Attorney General then.
Well, whose site is she? She's supposed to be representing the
people of California, not the US government.
I'm telling you. People think California is so liberal. Ha ha.
It's not liberal slaves. All of you. State telling you what to
do. State telling you the Attorney General
is this creek Kamala Harris Dylan. It used to be the San
Francisco district attorney. And she was like a complete screw up
and somehow she got in over the chief of police of Los Angeles
in the election. I guess she's now she was brought in or
stooges and I guess you know she's against marijuana. I mean,
get so the people's desire to have medical marijuana legalized
I think the whole state should have legalized the drug in the
last election they screwed up. I mean, this would have been
listen, I'm a California I listen to this all my life. How
liberal the state is are always voted Democrat. They're gonna
legalize marijuana, they get the opportunity and they say no,
that was wrong with these people. We
witnessed the media indoctrination. Remember, it was
like, Oh, the kids ate some cookies and they almost died and
maybe crowd remember when the vote was coming up and we had
all these
negative stories? Negative, negative, negative. We don't
need more drugs. We need less and the rest of it
and by the way, and occupy la not a single sign about
legalizing marijuana.
That's not good. No, of
course it's not good. If people are afraid to get get arrested.
There was one more thing that caught my eye and I guess it's
only in Gitmo nation lowlands. And in the Netherlands and it's
not in. It's not an international program. There's
something called the Pfizer press award. Have you ever heard
of such a thing?
No, but I can. I've heard of such a thing kind not from
Pfizer. But this is not an uncommon, an uncommon thing that
a lot of these large companies do. I will read they reward the
press who did their Yes. I
will read I will translate on the fly. Pry of Pfizer will be
crowning journalists, that's a literal translation. Who in 2011
paid attention in the public media to infectious and viral
diseases such as the h one n one, swine flu virus.
Journalists who wrote about these viral infection diseases,
or made an item for radio or television can submit themselves
to the website. Prize 5000 euros and the and the the four runner
ups get 1000 euros each. Wow. So essentially, if you write about
the h1 and one virus propagate the meme of falsehood, which we
had turned out to be not such a big deal, we know that and and
the the vaccine didn't help anybody. In fact,
endemic Yeah, in fact,
it gave a lot of people narcolepsy. If you wrote about
it, you can submit your own story to show how great you are
being a part of the system and we'll reward you with 5000
bucks. So this happens more often big companies do this.
They have
crazy awards like this. They're all over the place a press
public relations companies get Have a lot of them out. Yeah,
but
Pfizer itself.
Yeah, that's great.
That to me was outrageous,
given doing 1959 Apparently,
yes, they have done a couple other things. The back with the
vaccine against smoking and cat cocaine, New York Times
reporting that that is it's in the works, which of course, a
vaccine makes no sense because smoking addiction is not an
actual virus that you pick up somewhere. You don't get the
smoking addiction from someone, I don't think you can catch
cocaine addiction from somebody. However, they're calling it
vaccine, The New York Times the paper of record, the truth is
calling it a vaccine. And Australian scientists have found
that a type of immune response in the brain is linked to how
you respond to alcohol, they will coming up coming up with
the stay sober pill,
which will fit right into our final clip.
So you can drink as much as you want. And you still stay sober.
So I'll set that clip up for me one time. One more time, John.
Yeah, this is Ken burns down the documentarian, who's always on
PBS has made all his money there. And this thing I think
check kind of changed his attitude about his worldview a
little bit from extremely liberal to a little more
conservative. And it's about prohibition. It's just kind of
the wrap up of the story and kind of the key to how it, how
it got started. And some of the bad actors and some of the crap
it's just a very kind of a summary of
prohibition happened in the 20s in the United States where they
banned the sale of alcohol correct for 14 years. Right.
That was the 20th amendment or the 18. T 18th. Amendment, later
repealed by the 21st Amendment
where it also brings up the question if marijuana is
illegal, why isn't there a constitutional amendment the
same way there was with prohibition? A,
A? Well, it's because we all want it is the drug companies
who don't want the plant weaseling in on why
is the there is a constitutional amendment. How can it be legal
to to have make marijuana illegal? Same way alcohol was
made it had to be a constitutional amendment is
because the government's decided they don't need constitutional
amendments. They can just do what they want.
These questions and more will be answered for you on Thursday.
Coming to you from the hilltop Watchtower crackpot command
center in the morning. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're producing the
tentpole of all podcasts. I'm John C. Dvorak,
no agenda producer update coming up after the show live on the
stream. And we'll be back here Thursday on no agenda,
the right to vote and had absolutely no rights at the
beginning of the 19th century, but who through their support of
abolition and temperance began to find that voice began to
achieve that agency began to act outside the house in powerful
and interesting ways. That movement ebbed and flowed. It
was, of course hijacked by those who thought, not just
temperance, but total abstinence, capital T, total
abstinence would be the best thing. And of course, a new
modern single issue movement was born, that blotted out the
efforts of the Women's Christian Temperance Union, and other
periodic crusades that were sponsored by women across the
country and taken over by the single most effective and
powerful lobbying organization in the history of the United
States. Something a group that I had never heard of going into
this project called the anti saloon League. Its leader Wayne
B. Wheeler, was as powerful as any human being has ever been
outside of holding public office in the United States. And I had
never heard of him either. He it was said of Wayne B Wheeler that
he could make the Senate of the United States sit up and beg and
he did and they did. It is an interesting and fascinating
story as the Women's Christian Temperance Union was sort of
shoved aside and the anti saloon league with its single issue
campaign, they wanted only one goal, the elimination of alcohol
and worked tirelessly to do it. And they were willing to
compromise on nothing and yet willing to make alliances with
anybody if it would advance their goal. When Myron T
Herrick, who was the very popular but moderate republican
governor of Ohio, said he thought that local town should
have a voice in what they were doing. The anti saloon league
got him unelected and and the Democratic challenger who was
thought to have no chance in the race, elected in his place. It
is a fascinating story, which seems Ultra ultimately modern in
every respects. They were turning out tons and tons and
tons of anti liquor propaganda every month from their plant in
Westerville, Ohio, which was their headquarters that town
just north of Columbus, it is a fascinating story. But what is
more fascinating is how old a majority of Americans come came
to embrace the notion that we needed an amendment to the
Constitution that actually limited human freedom, when
every other Amendment to the Constitution has actually
expanded human freedom that has been the American model, we have
moved forward into our uncertain future by extending to our
citizens more rights than they had before. This is the only
amendment that actually curtailed those rights. And by
the turn of the 20th century, and in the first two decades of
that tumultuous century, we found a huge strange collection
of people who were for prohibition in some way, shape,
or form. Progressives were for it as well as the very
conservative anti saloon League, Democrats as well as
Republicans. Prohibition came to be seen as a way to solve all of
society's ills that we could just Swallow this pill take this
magic bullet, this panacea, which would change everything
that every family would be improved, that the slums would
empty men would walk upright. The evangelist Billy Sunday
said, women would smile children would laugh, and hell would
forever be for rent. If this amendment went through.
industrialists like Andrew Carnegie and John D.
Rockefeller, were for it because they thought that alcohol weaken
the output of their working man, the wobblies, the radical labor
union of the i WW the International Workers of the
World were for it to they saw prohibition they saw alcohol as
a capitalist plot to destroy the working man and join this odd
bandwagon. Towards prohibition. We had, the NAACP was for it
Booker T. Washington, arguing always and passionately for a
black advancement and the development of a black middle
class saw the obstacle of alcoholism as as an as as
central or as a as a huge enough problem that they needed to join
that bandwagon. But then the Ku Klux Klan was for it to they
were anti Catholic, anti Jew, anti black, and the last thing
they feared was a black man with a bottle in one hand and a
ballot in the other. Everything coalesced around it. And then
finally, as we moved into the second decade of the 20th
century, two things sort of made it a reality. The first was the
16th amendment. Now the anti saloon league shrewdly allied
themselves, many would say cynically allied themselves with
progressive groups interested in the redistribution of wealth in
the United States, because there was in that time, as we argue
and debate today, a huge disparity between the haves and
the have not the Gilded Age, and the robber barons had squeezed
the middle class, the poor were rising in their ranks, the rich
were getting richer and progressive movement wanted
among a number of agendas to redistribute the wealth in the
United States. They thought the best way to do this was to pass
an amendment to the Constitution that would initiate an income
tax. Strangely, the anti saloon league joined with them because
they knew that by supporting this amendment, they would
ensure that the liquor industry the brewers and distillers would
no longer have the symbiotic relationship they had with Uncle
Sam, because up to that point, fully 70% of all internal
revenues for the federal government came from taxing beer
and spirits. And despite local prohibition movements, the beer
and the liquor industries were confident that they would never
be disconnected from their the person most addicted to them,
which was the federal government the income tax proved them
wrong, and they found themselves in deep trouble. devora.org/and
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