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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday, October
2 2011 times you're getting my nation media assassination
episode 344
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new casting call from the hilltop Watchtower crackpot
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yeah in the morning from your new chief external organizer I'm
Adam curry
and from foggy northern Silicon Valley where it's me thank foggy
John C. Dvorak. Kill me.
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three weeks ago was foggy. Please, it's a podcast. John.
One of those
people are listening on the fly.
Yeah, that's true. That's true. And I saw on the spreadsheet
that we probably have about 1.7% donating the $10 at the end of
the show, so I'm moving up.
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That's all I look at. Hey, you didn't have to scroll that far.
less true. In the morning to John.
In the morning to you Adam. And in the morning all ships at sea
and boots on the ground. If any of you are listening also feet
in the air, which I'm sure you're not.
And if you came to us as a Lew rockwell.com reader of his site
in the morning to you this is the no agenda show the best
podcast in the universe. And we got a link from Lew rockwell.com
Yesterday yet they did. Did it result in any love? Yeah,
it resulted in crashing the server I was up until like 1230.
I think running? I don't know I
don't you think operation are you running over? Yeah, well,
case in point. That's what it is rinky dink operations. Just me.
Yeah. I'm gonna go into
what they would go into this. Yeah, I was linking with a link
and direct directly to the what was the what did the link go?
Where was he was linking
into the into the MA shownotes into the asset archive?
It was any any? No agenda show.com is a is a Squarespace
site, right? Yeah.
Yeah. Well, what I what I would have done if I hadn't known if
I'd known about it earlier is I would have made a little YouTube
video of the clip of when we were talking about John Stuart
omitting a Ron Paul's the best part of the Ron Paul interview.
And I would have done a little YouTube video. And I would have
would have redirected to that. Which would have been great. But
you know, the rinky dink operation. It's what it is. And,
of course in the morning to all of the human resources who are
charged up this morning, ready to go in the chat room, no
agenda stream.com. No agenda. chat.net. Good to see y'all. And
I think that we should probably start today with Occupy Wall
Street. John,
well, there's been a bunch of people arrested, finally,
because they had to basically stop the traffic on the Brooklyn
Bridge, Please arrest
me, arrest me. What it's this is very interesting. And we of
course, started basically pre promoting this three weeks ago,
then there was no coverage. And now, as predicted, the
mainstream media is all over it in two ways. One is G. We don't
really know what it's about. It's what do they want is kind
of confusing. And the other one is, of course, that the shields
are showing up at which I have a couple of horrible examples, and
I think I have some advice for our Occupy Wall Streeters
because, of course, people are just pissed off and they listen
to this NBC report. I wanted to get a mainstream news report
about you know how this is being told to the masses, because you
know, CNN and Fox News is that's a very small percentage of
watches that I think PBS and NBC is where most I think the big
masses will will get their news from that.
What began with a small disorganized protests
disorganized there we go right off the bat at Wall Street in
Manhattan, New York has grown today to demonstrations
nationwide against corporate greed. From New York to LA even
up in Maine, people took to the streets to express their anger
and make sure their message is heard. But what exactly is their
message? Oh, nice set up.
We said NBC is Michelle friends and to find out
by the way, Michelle Franzen you know her no smoking
TEKS and counting. Several 100 Faithful protesters continue to
camp out at a park near Wall Street. Their numbers grow each
day, fueled by the power of social media.
So they're showing like hippies and around back Hanging on
drums,
scuffles within YPD. And the common scuffle
is just a scuffle. When you get maced, in the
threat of discontent over high unemployment, and distrust of
government and corporations, there's something
unjust going on right now in this economy and this society,
John evitable, drove from Connecticut to speak out,
because we can't pay listen to the people, this is always very
important. So now this guy, of course, he's not a
representative of the movement, but they put him on TV. So this
is what the movement is being represented by as far as as far
as the public is concerned
for big expensive lobbyists to work for what
we want. The sit in has turned into a small community complete
with a food kitchen and media center. But by design, there is
no one leader of this group, and no organized set of demands,
creates
doing your own thing. But we're doing it together. We're coming
together, and we're saying things need to be changed. How
are we going to do this,
protesters may still be working to define their message, but the
complaints of corporate greed and social inequality are
resonating far beyond the streets of New York. In Los
Angeles, today, protesters took to the streets to show
solidarity,
I can't travel to DC, I can't travel to New York. So I think
it's great that we are doing this in cities across the United
States, even in
Portland, Maine, 100 people turned out. The movement labor
experts say is also gaining the attention of high profile
activists like Michael Moore, and union leaders backing that
could elevate the conversation to the political stage.
This is the liberal version of the Tea Party, especially young
people who are getting mobilized and expressing their grievances.
I think this could potentially carry over into the 2012
elections and get people to the polls.
So more or less, as we predicted, this is now being
marginalized by making it so completely inane, not understood
by the smart people who are on television. And it's amazing
that when you have exactly the same protest going on in Greece,
or in Spain, or the past few days, even in France, that
that's Israel, well, Israel, but of course, the Arab Spring, then
it's understood. Well, of course, it's a you know, of
course, these people are getting screwed. But here's like, I
don't understand what he said, don't we live in the greatest
country in the world? I just don't understand it.
You know, I should mention that there's apparently a similar
event taking place in San Francisco, which is getting zero
coverage by all our media. So I mean, it's everything's a
fractal. Yeah, so the San Francisco event is not discussed
at all by anyone just like the rest of it, then then it will be
discussed in less it peters out. Well, here.
Here's the warning I have to two people who are participating in
this. And of course, I encourage the I think it's a great idea.
Although I would much rather see media hacking going on because
you're now being hacked by the media. That's what's happening.
And it's really sad. So either we have to get to a point where
the national guard comes out and then we really have like a
Toledo square type of event. But now they've brought out the
shills and and please, I beg you, if Michael Moore shows up
again, stand in front of him with a V for Vendetta mask and
say corporate shill, corporate shill. That's what you have to
do. Russell Simmons, Russell Simmons, who is 100 millionaire.
He comes Easter. He's he actually on his blog or website.
He
says, oh, a corporate shill.
He says please raise my taxes. And he goes and he sits down
there in New York. Now. I have an interview. And
oh, by the way, you should remind me you can voluntarily
yes, there's
this little checkbox on your on your return. I won't be taking
advantage of that this year. You can help a door to pay down the
the national debt. That's sure. So Russell Simmons is on I think
MSNBC and he has an IFBB in an earpiece. And you can see it
because he's fumbling with it at the beginning of the interview.
And they're talking to him. And I want you to pay attention to
what happens because they clearly the minute he goes a
little off the reservation, because he's there essentially
to propagate another hijack, which is the President's
message. So this is now being hijacked on multiple sides,
Russell Simmons being flown in from direct from the White House
to get the jobs bill up in front and attach the jobs bill to this
act. And you can actually you can almost hear the producer
yelling in his ear and listen to the shill edge that this guy is
spewing.
I think that we need some adjustments. And I think the
protesters represent a growing number of Americans who feel
that that there is a class warfare and their class warfare
good talking point that you're waging a great war on on the
middle class and working class and poor Americans that are
suffering. I think that corporate control of our
government is I just lost
I think corporate control of our government and you can the
producer goes did I? Did I say something wrong? Did I do
something wrong? play that back? Yeah, I'll play it all the way
through. You can hear him backpedal on it.
It's strictly chlapik control of our government is, is an undo
and oh, it's
undo. Okay, that's the word they whisper to just say undo. Undo
that,
who feel that that is a class warfare and the rich are waging
a great war on on the middle class and working class. Just
kidding. Now listen to the game, here comes the bit where they're
yelling in his ear and poor
Americans that are suffering. I think that corporate control of
our government is stripping off the control of our government is
is an undo and
he's out he's literally holding his hand up to his ear. Did I do
something wrong? Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I shouldn't have said that
corporate Oh, I'm sorry. It's undo because he also said undo
that whatever you said, undo it. Undo
also all special interests. And I believe that we need to do
something about that. I think that's one of the first steps I
think we should be very careful to protect our social programs.
And I think they're making the Republicans mostly personal
opinion to Republicans who are receiving 10 to 15 times more
special interest money, and
it's the Republicans,
the guy and on the Republicans,
what to do, aren't going to douchebag let's keep going
rustle up money
have to have to be exposed. And we have to discuss this on a
national stage. And this, this is a small seed that could grow
into a great movement.
I was going to ask you that you've decided to join this
process. You're a businessman, but you're also a citizen. You
heard Mayor Michael Bloomberg say last week that if this
disparity of wealth wasn't reduced, we're going to see
riots in the streets. Of course,
you know, the poor have nothing to eat. The next thing they can
eat is the rich, the rich that is.
Let's keep on going. Russell, you're doing great. Now. You're
doing great interviews is really good.
It's really it's a it's getting worse. I got $100 million check.
I gave away 10 million. So all my employees, every single one
paid more taxes than I did.
I was employee he got $100 million check from Obama. He
gave away 10 million to all his employees, and they paid more
taxes than he did.
Collectively, maybe
it's a lie. And the guy is in
the old crap. This guy's on that same. The same ship that the
buffets on, which is the ship of bull crap. Yeah. You know, float
like a turd in the toilet, give me a break.
So Michael Bloomberg was raised there once again. And this, of
course, is an older interview from several weeks ago, where he
says riots on the streets. But listen to Michael Bloomberg
these past few days morning radio show in New York City.
But the protesters are protesting against people who
make 40 $50,000 a year and are struggling to make ends meet.
That's the bottom line. Those are the people that work on Wall
Street or in the finance sector. And
what planet is this guy from?
The people who work on Wall Street make 4050 grand a year,
really, by the janitors,
probably at Goldman Sachs, they're probably doing better.
But there's more.
We need the banks if the if the banks don't go out and make
loans, we will not come out of our economic problems, we will
not have jobs. And so anything we can do to responsibly help
the banks do that encourage them to do that is what we need. I
think we spend much too much time in this country, worrying
about why we got into problems as opposed to how we go forward.
Well, so we always tend to blame the wrong people. We blame the
banks. They were part of this, but so was Freddie Mac and
Fannie Mae and Congress.
They were just part of it. Isn't that I mean, we're blaming the
wrong people. It's not looking back and look at history. Move
forward. Eat the rich. And here's the kicker. This was some
live interview in in New York this past week.
Well, nobody has any confidence. If you're a bank, and you have
money, would you make a loan when people are talking about
putting you in jail for what happened in the mortgage crisis
three, four years ago, you hunker down
Hey, if you want alone, stop trying to put me in jail. Isn't
that what loan sharks do? Anna, I'll give you a loan, as long as
you don't know, term, the end of the to the federal rallies.
Well, I don't know how Bloomberg is expecting the banks to do
anything here I play the depressing clip of the week I
think summarizes a situation where banks are going to loan
anybody anything, oh, it's kind of early to get depressed. But
let's rock it out and see,
like the Japanese yen, that the most recent inflation number was
3.8%, well above the flood that Feds target. So I don't buy the
argument that in a weak economy, you don't get inflation, you
gave the example of Germany, Spain at the moment has 20%
unemployment, prices are rising, Britain has a high unemployment
rate, prices are rising. So you just there are other sources
other than the labor market to give you inflation, and we're
gonna get them. And Mr. Edwards.
There's these gigantic negative risks out there that something
big and bad is going to happen to the American economy. We
don't know what it is. If you go back and look at the January
2008 CBO. projection, they didn't project a recession. They
said, Well, maybe recession would happen. But they actually
projected growth would be strengthening and in coming
years, so we're going to be surprised by how the next big
recession or negative factor if you look at CBO projections, I
mean, there's no recessions in their 10 year outlook. But what
if we have a gigantic recession a few years from now, another
major recession, you know, tax revenues would plunge again,
unemployment comp costs would soar, a lot of policymakers
would want to do another giant stimulus. And we'd be in this
sort of spiral downwards of debt and, and poor economic growth.
So, you know, we've got to start planning now. The risk factors
are all on the negative side, European countries have this
horrible demographic problem worse than ours, their debt
loads are going up, and there's, you know, so the higher their
debt loads are becoming the higher ours becomes the more
risk of an international sort of a contagion the more we're all
at sort of a tipping point. And if Europe can go into another
deep recession, it would cause a deep recession here. So you
know, the risks are all on the on the on the ugly side. Okay,
and my last 15 seconds anyone want to comment on the on the
thing
here we go, everybody follow the bouncing ball here again the
farm begin
you weren't singing along? That was good. Yeah. So that was it.
Someone sent me a note which I thought was kind of interesting
and in relation to all of this and you just mentioned yourself
that we are essentially witnessing a fractal you being
the cycle man and, and Lord of fractals
in my domain,
fractal, this Sunday, 1340 birding nitro funny cars fractal
mania. John C. Dvorak, Lexus. The old one. Not an 1848. There
were revolutions. Do you recall the revolutions of 1848?
Well, I think there was a French revolution for starters.
Okay, and what was that about?
It was about eating the rich. Yeah, it was, I don't know, I
wasn't there. Actually, I just missed it.
The European revolutions of 1848 None of some countries as you'll
love this, the spring of nations springtime of the people's
spring time for his time for Hitler. And that
was what I thought too. So this whole spring thing is even a
fractal. It's just this is the script. And we should probably,
I'm kind of counting on you to go back and take a look at 1848.
Over 50 countries were affected. But there was no coordination or
cooperation amongst the revolutionaries in the different
countries. five factors were involved widespread dispatch,
dissatisfaction with political leadership, the demand for more
participation in democracy, the demands of the working classes,
the upsurge of nationalism, and finally, the regrouping of the
reactionary forces based in the royalty the aristocracy, the
army and the peasants. So here's what I suggest. If you are put
on camera, which and you probably won't be if you're
smart, and you have something intelligent to say, because it's
gonna put the chick with this finger symbols on TV. Oh, yes.
Yes, hello. Hello. We're oh, we're 99 Present. If someone
says What is this about? You just have to say exactly the
same thing as the Arab Spring, we want regime change and we
want the evil dictator removed.
Let me mention this to people out there who follow my cycles
theory. Let's take a look at 1848, which was a moment in
history and go through the 40 year cycle, we go from 1848 to
1818 88, which was just the beginning before we had the
818 93. Dead on crash, which mimics 1928, which is another 40
years later, which was again, a moment in history just before a
crash. Then we had 1968, which of course, had the same kind of
revolutionary fervor with the hippies, and all the rest night
68 Just before a crash, which happened the next year, and then
add another 40 years of that we have 2008, which had the housing
crash. So this is all like just like luck. To me. This is all
lockstep predictable stuff.
So what so well, this is good, because Lois our PR ex bear has
said we need to predict stuff so that she can then go tell
mainstream media how great we are.
So what is next in your fractal theory? John, what is the next
guy from there? Would you get the clip that you heard of the
gloom and doom guy was that the was the Cato Institute
character? And I think what's next is more of the same. I
think we're gonna this is just the beginning. It's not a
prediction.
That's not good enough.
Well, what am I supposed to do? Okay, somebody's gonna get shot.
No, no,
very good. I like that one, Michael Moore.
No, probably not. Anderson. Anyway, what's gonna happen? Of
course, we're gonna have a huge, you know, another downturn
because it's already shaping up. Unemployment is gonna go above
10%, probably for the first time
and why and so I have a question. I've
always wanted to ask you, oh, by the way, because unemployment is
actually about 22%. Right. Now,
I wanted to ask you a question about this. So if you have
inflation, right, and let's say we have kind of, like big
inflation, how many percent would that be? Like, runaway
inflation?
Like, well, runaway inflation is ridiculous. I mean, I was in
Brazil, during its era of runaway inflation, where you
have hyperinflation, we we've never experienced that. I don't
think that's gonna go well, let's just say, five or 6%,
maybe?
No? Okay. So is it? Is it the case then that, let's say you
think the market on housing, for instance, has or anything to
car? Right now, let's
go with housing, stay with housing. Okay. As far as I can
hear? The banks aren't loaning money, because they expect the
housing market to collapse further, right? So why would
they loan money?
So if it collapses further, let's just say instead of at a
bottom, and you buy a house for I'm just gonna say $100,000,
just to make it simple? And then inflation kicks in? Isn't it
then cheaper for you to pay off that house? Because the house
was 100,000. But it's the price was already set? It doesn't go
up to say 105? Or 110? Or 120,000? And you have you should
eventually have more cash to pay that off? Or am I just being a
total disc jockey here?
No, I think there there's a basic theory that if you can run
up the devalue the dollar through inflation, then you get
to pay off your your debts in cheaper money, which is what the
US did you get more money, but the way things have been going.
If we are the canary in the coal mine, and that ain't happening.
We ain't get more money.
We're only getting all these different. There's so many
variables in this and you never really know what's going to
happen. It's up all you can tell for sure is that there's going
to be a massive slowdown. Europe's going to fall apart.
We've been predicting that since day one, I have a different
economy in the toilet in about two years. No, I don't see, you
know, one of the things that's interesting about this cycle
that I keep promoting, is that in an
way, are you promoting this, would you stop? Maybe you'll
probably
be there what it should have been like a market crash in
1889, like 29, and the rest of these years, but there wasn't
and there was actually a boom, and when 19 Or I'm sorry, at 92
there was like a mini boom, which would which would match
next year if we if somehow Obama could crank the economy up for
about a year and make everybody happy, run the market up. And
then they had a massive depression. And at 93 huge, and
I don't see I think we're gonna have the depression part of it,
but we're gonna have any benefits in the front end. It's
just going to be a mess.
No, that's not true. Because as you and I both know, what really
increases during every single downturn and depression.
hookers?
Yeah, hookers, the hookers get better looking. And, and the
music and the movies are higher quality. So that's good. Like
it's good for you if you're investing in a movie
or in hookers.
I was thinking a couple of people who came out and said
poured in us for this program this is what we do people who
support the most or support the show the most on each episode
become a titled executive or associated executive producer
it's a real title is just like Hollywood when you're watching
the TV and you see executive producer that's because someone
paid for that episode.
Now unfortunately, exactly to a couple of people Yeah, we have a
Serb Boris Martin off of Aliso Viejo, California. And he for
any donated $344 to the cause of karma to me and my wife kids and
my future offsprings? Absolutely
no member of the 344 Club nice. You've got karma, of course, the
only three fully members for the only member
we have the 345 club coming up people. Three, four magic number
either decade. 34567 is actually what it is. Yeah, 34567 would be
good. Shuttle experts in Croydon, New South Wales $200.
That'd be the Associate Executive producers. Hey, guys,
keep up the good work. Please de douche me and send me some
D deuced. You've got
karma type double shot. And that's it. Right.
Yeah. So I assume that our last show was terrible.
Yeah, well, we never like our shows, actually.
Yeah, so we can't even judge them anymore. Now.
I can give you a couple of PR mentioned some efforts that
people are doing out there. And I think that I don't know if
this actually does any PR good for us. But it doesn't make me
chuckle.
No, but we do have where's that list by the way?
domains.na shownotes.com. Okay, yeah, that's over 700 domains
registered and forwarding to the no agenda show.com website. This
is actually a pretty good one, which might get us some, some
extra traffic and gadget.com. This is a donation dude,
who thinks one of those, I misspelled it.
And gadget with an A instead of an E. I like that. Also Larry
and curry.com. As you know, John was posted in a school as a
perpetrator as a perp named Larry. Larry and curry.com is a
great, great little website, the dour domain and the ghost no
agenda show. That is the see and say gallery.org website which
one of our producers put together I guess you get that
large jingle when you open up the website. I live on Long
Island like a lot of other Long Islanders I take the LIRR to the
city in order to work and push that American dream forward of
just getting by given the nature of the task in the nature of
current events. The Manhattan transportation authorities
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and the multitude of other consumers by displaying the
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call out for you to participate and help them out with with any
pictures and videos which is actually good because people
send them to me and I really have nothing I can do with them.
So see and say gallery.org is a nice little producer project
then we have best podcast in the universe.com I had no idea that
that wasn't registered. So if anyone asked you that know that
no agenda thing they do what do they wait how do I find that
just go to Best podcast in the universe.com Ah okay. burns my
muffins.com forwarding to no agenda show.com Andrew Boldt eat
coc.com And this is something we haven't really followed because
this is a down understory. Given nation down under Adam and John
we've registered Andrew bolt eat coc.com to forge no agenda
show.com The reason why he chose the name of Andrew bolt he'd
caulk is because of the recent federal court decision Australia
that Andrew bolt breached the Racial Discrimination Act in a
series of opinion columns published in Australia's News
Corp publication papers online as well. Andrew Boldt did no
research on these people's backgrounds and was trying to
vilify them because they are fair skinned Aboriginals. Creamy
is I think they're called. Anyway, I have attached the
article the full details and there's a wiki page as well. So
that's a local story that we need to look into further.
Fireworks in first.com our business we can open the doors,
John, we've got our website. Yeah,
we just need a shack in Idaho.
McGurk effect.com. If you don't know what the McGurk effect is
Google that. That's funny. You know, the McGurk effect is John.
No, tell me the BBC had this thing. And it apparently has
been around for a while. They show you a guy and there's a
video going bah bah, bah, bah, bah like a sheep. And then they
show you the same guy. And when you look at him, it sounds like
he's going far. Far, far, far with an F. But when you close
your eyes, he's actually saying bah bah bah. But because you're
looking at his mouth, your brain automatically turns it into an F
as fat. It's, it's amazing to watch and you can't get away
from it unless you literally close your eyes. And then you
hear that's exactly the same as the first clip. And that's
called them. Gurken effect. Yeah, shows you the power of
television also.
Yeah, that's the well, we you, you have pointed this out from
the get go when we were starting to do clips. And I kept bringing
in these clips from the various law and order episodes. And once
once you turned off the video, and just listen to them try to
act. It was pathetic. I mean, you could just see all those all
kinds of ended. You can see here, the innuendos and you
could hear the propaganda and all this stuff came out. In
fact, we've done clips on the show numerous times where until
we play the clip itself would one one or the other of us say
what would you do notice that you did this? Yeah, we didn't
even notice ourselves. And
I've actually started to not watch videos when I'm recording
the sound bits to make sure I don't miss anything. And
actually, I caught one today, which I think is pretty funny.
That's coming up. A couple more domains here biodiversity
now.org forwarding to I know agenda show.com as well as
biodiversity. initiatives.com I may get a little bit of love
here or there and so on my stumbling across it. Oh, here's
one for you, John, the fact of the matter.org There you go.
I could use that. Don't worry, you
will I'm sure before the show was over. Adam curry
2000 sixteen.com And here's probably one of the best ones in
the morning. joe.com I like that. For those who don't know,
there's a show here called Morning Joe with a couple of
shields on it. So we highly appreciate that. And of course
thanks to our executive producer Boris Maren officer Marin off to
you and I and our Associate Executive Producer he's also the
sole member the 344 Club and our social executive producers
shuttle experts. Thank you so much again, unlike the phones in
Hollywood we will vouch for you if someone needs to know if this
is indeed an official credit and when else out there you have a
mission Your mission is to go out and propagate our formula
our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth
come on you know what my heart now shut up so once again to
those of you occupying Wall Street if you're interviewed by
the mainstream media tell them we want exactly the same as our
brothers and sisters in the Arab Spring we want regime change and
we want democracy and we want this evil dictator removed it's
that simple
Yeah and also request a no fly zone
a NATO no flies that we didn't need to write this down and NATO
no fly zone we want this evil dictator removed and we want
regime change perfect that's all you have to do. So of course
everyone is waiting to hear our take on the allege ID droning of
Anwar all a lucky what? Who I am now calling Anwar all actory
what what happened?
He got droned? No by the way you can go to God drones.com
tracking droning of US citizens since 2011. And it was to
actually according to the the news, not just Anwar all a lucky
but also HMI or con Shamir Khan who publish the awesome magazine
inspire and I don't know
I think you're missing the guys let the real pronunciation of
the guy's last name that makes a lot more sense than your
interpretation which is owl lackey.
I thought it was EQ Tori.
I think a lackey is well Ashley is spelled a lackey are all
lackey
Do you have a I have a take on this. What
is your what is your tell you give me yours?
It never happened. The guy is an actor always has been an actor.
The whole thing is bogus and fake.
Yeah, that's what same as mine. Basically.
I knew it. I knew it wouldn't be exactly the same.
Well, I mean, it's obvious. I don't think it was I think it
was a real person though. I don't believe his name is Terry
Greenberg. No, and I think that the it was an extraction. I
always think the whole thing is bullshit. I always think it's an
extraction. Oh, you and I basically.
So here's what I understand. It was actually Samir Khan. The guy
who published inspire magazine, a great glossy magazine
that changed his his backstory by the way. Now he's the co
founder founder
and co founder. Great. So he was the one that came out just last
week and said to Ahmadinejad, hey, hey, stop blaming the
American government. That was us. That was Al Qaeda. Stop,
stop. That so they got rid of that guy, or maybe the I'll go
with the extraction story because of course they're both
CIA. But I truly, here's what I'm missing. I'm missing
interviews with Anwar all actuary's fluc his May he was an
imam in America where the interviews with the people who
followed him or were those just extras cuz I'm just not by Terry
Greenberg. And there's a couple of
levers in Falls Church, Virginia, by the way. Yes.
They got lots of there's a lot of acting work in Falls Church,
Virginia. Now, to me, the guy was always an actor, and the
trumped him up and now of course, that they're not that
denying everything, not saying a single thing. I mean, did you
see Kearney the spokes hole
that I did not see. Oh, I don't know. Maybe I did. But okay, so
they
have Janet. Yeah, yeah. So you have Jake who is with the
compromised ABC news organization compromised because
the new president of ABC News. His sister is a personal advisor
to the president. And Jake has his script. And Jake's mission
in this is to grill smokes Hall carne. And all I mean, and it's
good, he does a good job. But it really is only meant to make you
feel like someone is on your side.
Jay, you said that a lackey was demonstrably and provably
involved in operations. You plan on demonstrating a
step back? He is clearly I mean, probably maybe a legal term, I
think provably i It has been well established. And it has
certainly been the position of this administration in the
previous administration, that he is a leader in was a leader in
AQAP. That AQAP was a definite threat was operational, planned
and carried out terrorist attacks that, fortunately, did
not succeed. But were extremely serious, including the one
specifically that I mentioned in terms of the would be Christmas
Day bombing and 2009. And the attempt to bomb numerous Carter
plans headed for the United States. Did
we follow this? I don't really remember all these links to all
these things. Do you remember them saying all that and proving
it? And it's just solidifying the script? I think I don't
actually recall any proof being shown.
No, they don't have any proof. I mean, they just did this whole
thing seems to be kind of a I think this is like folded and
folded upon itself. First of all, immediately when the
President put out the kill order on this guy, two years on the
killing of an American citizen, and the last president that
actually did that would be Clinton. And although I don't
know that you can trace it right to him but the FBI definitely
and people should if you haven't done this people out there
should definitely go to the Wikipedia and look up Ruby Ridge
and read that story is quite interesting.
And that was that wasn't that was Janet Reno, right.
And this was in the 90s and it was Reno and FBI and they had
gone to pick up this backstory is this guy. Gary Weaver was in
a beef with a neighbor a see something say something neighbor
who lost a lawsuit against Weaver and then he started
calling the FBI up saying Weaver's threatened to kill the
Pope. He's threatened to kill the president. He's threatened
to do this and that. So the FBI started following this guy
around was a little naughty, and they just went into arrest him,
but he's in his compound. And so it kind of gets out of control.
And next thing, you know, some sniper under orders, kills his
wife in front of him in front of him, kills his kid in front of
him, and then shoot and the dog gets shot somewhere along the
way. Now that's going too far. That guy gets in debt they get
there. They know who the shooter is. He they, at the very last
minute before the statute of limitations, even though didn't
know murder was a statute of limitations situation in Idaho.
They decided to indict the guy. And then the Fed say no, no, no,
you can't do that. We'll take the case. And they took the case
and immediately that the guy go under sovereign immunity, which
is very sketchy, sovereign immunity. Yeah. Sovereign
immunity is the fact that you can't sue the federal government
for certain things. And I guess murder would be one of a
man. If the government kills you, you can't sue him.
So the government has already done this and it didn't get much
they played it up to the public as this guy was a nut ball. He
was a tax avoider and all the rest, complete lunatic and so
Nothing came of it in terms of public outcry now this is this
situations occurred and there's been some complaining about it
very little generally speaking the thing that I thought was the
interesting coincidence as soon as they supposedly killed a
Locky the ice, I immediately put my VCR onto the did Paula Tonto
show on Fox because Napoletana has been bitching about this,
this kill order sensitive since it was implemented. Neapolitan
Oh, show has not been on the air sacs are a bunch of stuff.
And it's pretty funny what everyone is propagating this
message. And excuse me, or when to to? Well, first of all, let
me just finish up the last 30 seconds of Jake grilling spokes
Hall is only a four minute clip, you can find it in the show
notes 344. That any show notes.com. So Jake is really
playing along well with the script. And he's really you
standing up for the people. And he was on the morning shows this
morning, I saw He's everywhere. And I said, Jake is the guy.
Again, it is important fact that this terrorist who was actively
plotting, had plotted in the past, he was actively plotting
to attack Americans and American interests is dead. But I'm not
going to, from any angle, discuss the circumstances of his
death,
you know that the Center for Constitutional Rights in the
ACLU, trying to get permission to represent a lot going on his
father had had asked them to do that. But they needed to get
permission from the Treasury Department, and so that they
could challenge is being on this targeted killing list. And the
administration, the Obama administration refused to let
them represent him to not even he couldn't even have the ACLU
representing that.
I would send those questions or taking those questions to
Treasury or Justice. I don't I don't have anything on that for
you.
What do you think constitutional law professor Barack Obama would
think of this.
I like that. So Treasury Yeah, go
to the Treasury Treasury can tell you why we killed the
US Treasury got to do with it ATF or what?
That's a standard answer. The whole
I think he made a mistake. There's something to that
Treasury. The
whole thing is funny. Now, I went to two opposite ends of the
spectrum. I went to Fox News, Fox and Friends, which is just
hilarious. But he also went to the other end of the spectrum to
PBS McLaughlin group. And you think in the McLaughlin group,
you think that there would be at least one voice of reason in all
of this. And typically, by the way, that's Eleanor. Not so on
on this issue. But listen, this is a short clip, listen to her
flub, and you see if you can spot it,
well, the drone killed a very guilty person this time. It's
not as symbolic as bin Laden. I'm most people have not heard
of this gentleman. But because he's an American citizen. He
speaks English. He's a very charismatic figure. He has a
foot in both cultures. He's been recruiting American citizens to
become terrorists. And he exchanged emails with the Fort
Hood, terrorist shooter. He helped coach the underwear
bomber and the New York Times bomber he's, he's he's a he's a
terrorist. So did you catch it?
No, what?
The New York Times bomber? Oh, that's exactly right. Because
the New York Times is the one who made it up the New York
Times bomber so she didn't she's not even lying. I like that.
By the way, what is the meme about this guy being
charismatic? Have you seen him? He's the boss uncharismatic as
anyone I've ever seen ever
Googled Terry Greenberg and look at some pictures. This guy was
an actor. So there was an executive order and I look kind
of like this. Because McLaughlin was actually the only guy who
was kind of questioning what was going on. Besides the fact that
this is phony. It's meant to spark a debate and it's meant I
mean, what's better than having drone shoot you as an American
citizen as being afraid of drone shooting you without actually
having spent at Miami I
want to mention that people should note this. The McLaughlin
report we've talked about the show in detail in deconstructed
some time ago, we included with some people that used to produce
the show, the show is scripted to the letter to the to the to
every nth degree, that scripted by guys ad libbing.
That's a very good of you to point that out. So there's
executive order and catch this 12333 Which I didn't realize
until I was listening this morning, say Oh, of course.
Executive Order 12333 written by former President Ronald Reagan,
President Reagan
in 1981 issued Executive Order 12333 You can and was there
working for him otherwise known as the assassination ban, here
is the language of the law of the land. No person employed by
or acting on behalf of the United States government shall
engage in all conspire to engage in Assassination. No agency of
the intelligence community shall participate in or request any
person to undertake activities forbidden by this order,
unquote. Question. Was it legal? I asked you, Liz for President
Obama to order the assassination of an American citizen.
So now that instead of Tony Blakely, who I kind of liked
always on the show, so he's off, they have this not so MILFy.
Woman but she's young. And I think she she writes for a blog
or something I'm not quite sure. I you'd have to look it up. I'm
not sure.
I can tell by her voice. Yeah.
I think the White House would tell you that they derive their
legal authority for any operation like this from the
what Congress passed in the wake of 911, basically authorizing
the United States to defend itself against the al Qaeda
network. And so they think they have plenty of legal cover for
this type of operation. And I think if you look at where the
American public stands at large,
where do you think the American
public stands at large, John? I think we all think it's great,
don't you?
Oh, it's fantastic. Yeah,
I don't think there's going to be a widespread sense of outrage
for for something like this. I think the more interesting thing
to raise, however, to some extent, is, when you look at the
success that this White House has had, in terms of combating
al Qaeda and on, you know, foreign policy in general.
It's now foreign policy. That's, that's what this is falls under
foreign policy.
Why isn't the President getting more credit for this? And you
hear some Democrats actually, in the wake of what happened today
saying,
me more credit.
America. Yeah, here to see the
white house needs to start doing a little more chest thumping the
banner of George W. Bush, perhaps, or at least drawing a
little more attention to the thing like
this. You gotta shut her off.
I'd like you to listen to well, Buchanan says something really
interesting. Okay, he's coming right up. And then I mean, I
just have a couple of things in this is what we do, John, we
have to deconstruct
that they've actually had a run of real success on the foreign
policy front.
Well, I mean, whatever else you want to say about it, there
certainly is a moral justification for going after
somebody like this. And we are involved in a totally different
kind of warfare than we've ever experienced before. We're in
here comes Buchanan's gonna shoot it involved with a group
of terrorism, who who use any means to to disrupt whatever
they can in the United States. So I have no qualms about with
the fact that we did it. And I think it's wonderful that we are
taking out some of the leadership. And I hope that this
keeps them from suppressed and on the run instead of attacking
us. I think it's absolutely justified, I
think chest nothing on this would be necessarily
appropriate. I think the President does have a good
record on national security. And that kind of flips the polls,
because normally that's a weakness for Democrats
coming up. But it's important, he really hammers home.
That's the number one issue on everybody's mind.
I deal with, you know, a lot. He was an American citizen. Yeah.
Isn't he was inciting terror against American citizens. But
here's the thing.
I do wish the President doesn't say this is a war on terror. But
yes, he doesn't put it under that category.
To War on al Qaeda, but I do wish states had formally
declared war on the al Qaeda network. Okay.
So that's, that's what it is. It's a shift from the war on
terror to the war on al Qaeda. That's what the fundamental
shift is. Remember, now that the brand new director of the
agency, the Bureau of counter terrorism, is a lawyer. We've
tracked this guy all the way back, he's a lawyer, and this is
down to the legality, because it's the war on al Qaeda. And
here is PBS propagating their meme in their six o'clock news,
US war on al Qaeda. There you go. It's the war on al Qaeda.
John, that's the change here. And that's why it's okay. Took
out their top guy. I think that that word has long since ended.
There's a couple of interesting little things. sidelights, I
want to point out one on the show before they shot any of the
blue these guys up, supposedly, I had predicted Samir Khan was
going to be in the news. That's correct. So how can that Sameer
come or shows up in the news as as one of the another American
by the way that is killed? And I would think that if he was
actually killed that his family which still resides the United
States would have a wrongful death suit on their hands that
they could Throw out the USSR to get the government to buy CIA or
whoever. They were really won't say who did this. But I thought
that was interesting. The New York Times had a, they The New
York Times had mentioned, they talked about this con guy and
they and they kept over and over again, this mean keeps cropping
up. Let me just read this is also in the government security
news, it shows up. It says in his magazine, July 2010, he has
run how to articles on terror techniques, including one
called, quote, how to make a bomb in the kitchen with your
mom.
That's sexy.
The funny thing is that this was this, this was highlighted in
the New York Times and what's curious about it, it has exactly
30 letters. And it was an exact same thing was run three times
on the same page at the time, it was running an article about him
it was run as a pull quote, and it was written in the article
above about a Locky. And I just think that there's code here
that says, hey, this guy is either not dad, or they don't
pay too much attention to this story or whatever. Well, it's
the magic. It's the magical three. magic. The magic COMM
And also they're using Qaeda rather than al Qaeda, which also
means something. But anyway, so this but now the problem, I
think that's developing here that has to do that nobody is
addressing, because there was a number of articles describing
the legality of killing Americans, by Fiat. The
everybody that I read, and I read all this, there's articles
again, in all the national media, where every apparently
everybody in the Justice Department and most of the
government workers all have said that this was was totally legal.
Because it was self defense.
Oh, yeah. The guy was clearly attacking us planning Italian
knife in his hand with a rubber knife and a compass.
So I'm thinking and now they're gonna make the war on al Qaeda,
the war on this one that so now now it's been, we've been given
the go ahead. And by the way, this is going to be very
interesting in the years ahead when Obama tries to travel to
Europe, because this is not getting past the world criminal
court, I can assure you are International Criminal Court,
which we don't look at this guy's never gonna get out of the
country. I'm telling you, this is Dyken. That's a prediction.
So I'm sorry. Anyway, so that so where do we When do we start
using drones in Mexico? And taken out the drug lords? I
mean, when do we start, when we're talking about when it's
been going on forever? This is this is only just the beginning.
This is just the beginning of drone nation.
I want to see I want to see more and more of these drone attacks,
whenever we get when do we start with the with having the drones
over San Francisco or Boston and taken out protesters? Oh, any
day now. You have to remember that in the 60s. And of course,
I did the timeline earlier that just at this point in history, I
believe within a few years, the National Guard shot a bunch of
students at Kent State. So the idea of killing Americans by the
by our federal government is nothing new. We had no need for
thing more recently, but we had the killing 40 years ago at Kent
State. And so I suspect you're going to be some deaths coming
up here, big ones. And nobody's gonna say crap about it, because
everyone's already gone along with it with this this remote.
No, it's good. No, we like it. Well, in fact,
everybody's thinks it's great. It's fantastic.
I saw Nick Robertson, this man had to go. I saw Nick Robertson,
the former satellite engineer, who now is the senior
correspondent at CNN. He used to like the point this satellite
dish. He did a whole report, talking about autonomous drones.
So autonomous drones. It's crazy. Robocop? Yeah, Skynet. So
autonomous drones fly around, they have bio bio data on you,
you know, from when you go through the body scanner and
stuff like that. So they have your profile, they have facial
recognition. And then if you're on the if you're one of the
lucky 420,000 on the list, because that's how big the list
is, apparently, then you'll just be taken out autonomously? No.
One, no one has to fly it no one has to say go ahead and shoot.
It's just the drone will know that it's great. And that's why
we have the next gen aviation system on the way so these
drones can do anything they need to do. By the way, it is kind of
a minor coincidence. I think not that the underwear bombers trial
is starting next week, kind of kind of convenient to have these
guys out of the way. Another actor who we've never had these,
you know, it's I don't believe any of it anymore. I just don't
believe any of it anymore. And to have spokes hold, Carney say
well, you know, we're not talking about you know, how it
was killed or whatever. Ever I'd like why
if they're not talking about how he was killed why was it ever
even announced
that to be awesome and to to frightened? Why did
he just shoot the if this is all true? Let's assume that the the
scenario is accurate. And this happened, what what is the point
of telling us?
I know people who used to work on the drones, sis admins, and
part of their job would be they'd get a request. And the
request would be we need pictures of the of some person
we droned. And this person actually left that job and was
lucky to get out because this person was getting physically
ill of retrieving the pictures from the server of people blown
to bits. But they have that it exists for every single drone
strike. That's it's you know, it's high def it's great
footage. And quite quite honestly, I would invest money
to turn that into a reality show. And I've been saying this
for a while
it would go over big with the American public the way they
bloodthirsty American pub, I
think we have the autonomous drone and then it's flying
around and then it sees a dude and then we get to a text
message vote whether we kill him or not. Whether he gets droned
and it's all live as we've said on this very show many many
times that we should have exit public executions they should
that should be a reality show. We should be broadcasting
our money to do producing that show. Yeah, no kidding.
And I see nothing morally wrong with it. We're killing the evil
who gives a crap. Anyway, actors Terry Greenberg Googler.
And by the way, I'm going to ask you a question. Not quite an ask
Adam. Because they don't want to listen to the theme. Hate the
jingles. When did the CIA become part of the military?
When Leon Panetta joined it was flop switch watch. As perfect?
Come on, man,
I come to how come the Air Force isn't doing these drone attacks?
Yeah. Because the Air Force actually the pilots. Now the Air
Force actually wants to fly. These are just kids with Xbox
360 experience. And the Air Force hates the drones. They
hate him. They think it's wrong. And you know, it's like having,
as they say some guy looking through a straw flying that
thing. No, no, no, no, no. Just for Laughs though. Because this,
of course, is what the American public is being told and
consumes. You have to listen to Fox and Friends about this.
Because it's it just it's if you don't laugh, then that'll be two
minutes of your life. You never get back again. And I apologize.
Okay.
So go the reports. And this target was finally was finally
taken out. The question remains, what happened to his remains?
How was he taken out? Who were those people with him when they
died? And if it was such an it was so important to do the so
called right thing with Bin Laden's body? Isn't it equally
important to do the right thing? What's left of his body?
Well, that remains to be seen. However, the most important fact
is that he's dead. And this let's just talk about how far
reaching his tentacles
you know what? I love this, this woman by it's just important
that he's dead. All right, that's cool. He's dead. That's
important.
Because specifically, he was an expert. I think he was described
early this morning as a cyber Master. Yes,
I'm a cyber master.
Where was that described the President or heard it? The
president should have said that he was he was a cyber master. He
was
a cyber master on Fox and Friends. Were she getting this
cares. It's hilarious. And I can see up her skirt
on the internet. And we expert on the
internet. He's a techno expert on the internet
know that that is the place where so many young people were
being radicalized, specifically in English speaking nation. So
right here at home in America, one of our guests was talking
about Canada, Britain, Australia. And let's talk about
the links that all rocky had all the way back to 911 Apparently
to the hijackers went to hear him in a mosque in San Diego
night or in 2000 before the September 11 attacks. So he's
been up to this for
I've never heard of this guy until they cast him a couple of
years ago. This is totally bullcrap. This is like remember
that? Yeah, I guess so like some
time then he had the connection to the Time Square bomber. Then
he had the connection to the Fort Hood shooter. Then he had
the connection to the underwear bomber. So will this now end
some of those homegrown attacks that we've been seeing at least
here and also in Great Britain or or those continues since he
seemed to be the mastermind of many of them mastermind
mastermind grown here in the United States. This particular
guy
made in the USA, they said that's what it should be al
Qaeda made in the USA homegrown right here
often referred to as the American terrorists. He was born
in New Mexico in 1971. And we check mark right, and he'd
contacted those two, he'd had contact with the two pilots, the
hijackers from flight 77
Do you remember any of that flight 77
Is All You know this is like bullcrap. But that's
that's why your final 30 seconds we
also see you use the word inspire Steve I please fire name
of his magazine. Listen.
Oh, the Inspire magazine. Oh, for those of us who haven't
downloaded the PDF, please kind of MILFy not so hot liquid woman
who's to skirt I'm intended to look up please please tell me
about inspire magazine
that he had out on the internet. I remember we did interviews
when it first came out and many people were so concerned about
the fact that this thing looked high tech and it was glossy and
is going to attract so many people to go there.
Hey, remember that Dawn how high tech and glossy look that PDF it
says
who watches this show? You'd be amazed. Idiots. People still
watch today's show. That's why you should get your clips not
from these idiots. Okay,
where's your today show clip?
I don't have one. So I got a couple of funny clips though. On
this they had. I thought there's a lot of interesting mixed
messages coming out of this assassination. They had
Christina Amana Mumba poor a poor a
poor up Yeah, who's who has been compromised now that she works
for ABC she
makes the comment that now we're safer. But that was in direct
conflict with all the sudden emergence of owners who are not
safe. We're more we're more dangerous, even more danger than
ever because they're going to make up they're going to you
know, make
a martyr. He's martyred he's been martyred.
Meanwhile, she played a safer and not safer clip because she
has a she has the most unusual pronunciation for his name much
better than an actor or a lack lackey.
The president said it is a major blow to al Qaeda operations.
What was the reaction be from the Muslim world? And also is
the us safer?
I would say the US is safer as the president says this deals a
very significant blow to al Qaeda. American jihad is were a
big problem according to intelligence officials here and
out key was a major inspiration and motivator of American
Geheimnis. So this is a big, big deal from all the way over Alki
I'll keep elke he's an
alcoholic, apparently, LLC. That's pretty crazy, man. It's
like really, you got to turn off your TV because this is and what
I thought found interesting. On this morning's new shows which I
always have a little bit of time to have that on the background.
They're not talking about this at all. It's all about the
elections. It's almost like the memo went out and said okay, now
that we had Christie Yeah, Chris Christie. Exactly. Now that the
memo was out, you know, let's all talk about something else. I
don't know it was it was kind of crazy.
I think they got I think just there's they have all kinds of
problems. They don't know what to do about. By the way. There
was a fox did a special report on L a lackey, how can
l actor Alfio.
alcoholic? Where are they actually discussed whether or
not he was flipped as it were. And back and after 911 Because
he was a speaker at the Pentagon. He was a speaker. And
then the funny thing was I they showed these memos that they
ended, they highlighted stuff. But luckily with the HD, I could
stop the recording stroke and read these memos that you
weren't really reading. This guy got a degree at Colorado State,
got a master's degree at San Diego State. Then he was getting
his PhD at George Washington University. And this was in
2002, I guess where he got recruited. And yeah, because he
was in the Virginia area. And yeah, that's where he got
recruited. But they did try to discuss this a little bit. They
don't go you know, they don't they talk about one of his
visits and the fact that he came to the country and then he went
to the mosque and Lenin, it might be worth playing this,
this clip because there are some tidbits in here, because
apparently, this is a cover up going on. And this report ran
over the weekend at some weird hours. A very few people got to
see it, but I thought it was revealing
young American Muslims to go join the jihad and that to me,
me, sending him out of the house and considering
FBI agent Wade Ammerman, what role did he play in the case
waiting cameraman was the number two or the lead guide and only
to me in this case,
the very same way to Ammerman who was first called when a
lucky arrived at JFK. I mean, there are a lot of things once
again, that seem like a very strange
coincidence
whether there was ever an operational relationship with
people like our lock key, I think are questions that others
in the government can can answer. I just don't know. Good
questions
as to kind of wait, what is this guy? How did this guy get the
Ali's house? Who brought it? Did you tape it? The idea that Anwar
lock is just going to be allowed into the United States. I never
travel around maybe go shopping is preposterous to me.
I don't know if lucky. Does this look like he was flipped?
If possible,
we found Freedom of Information Act requests with the State
Department to get re foreign yeas a Locky passport file and
with the FBI for the October 8 2002 electronic communication,
it is cited as footnote 33. On page 517. From the 911
Commission Report, we wanted to see if it is connected, the FBI
lawyers told us is that they couldn't find it. And then when
we push them on this particular document, they then said, well,
sometimes the commission report the footnotes are not always
accurate. If you had a lot of problems with the footnotes. In
the commission report,
we had a site checking team that actually pulled all the
documents referenced in our footnotes, and made sure that
they connected to the assertions that were in the text.
FBI Special Agent Wade Ammerman, declined to speak with us in a
series of conversations with Fox News, the FBI is for you
attorneys over a four week period cited Herculean efforts
to find the document. They were hitting, quote, brick walls,
were trying to follow up on leads on May 17. They told us
they found it, but we can't have it pending review because other
agencies may be involved. Then sometime in late 2002 bollocky
mysteriously slips out of the country once again, this time to
England.
Yeah, that whole 911 commission report pretty good stuff.
So so so they finally found this document, supposedly that they
lost. And then they said they couldn't give it to him because
of other agencies,
with three layers and she'll go on named Exactly. Yeah. And
yeah, the six commissioners on the 911 Commission have come out
and said it was full of holes, and it was no good and
compromise and crap, basically. And that's not No, it's not
reported. No one cares. I have figured it out, though. I
figured out what this is all about this Anwar al aulaqi. So
he first of all, he went to Colorado State. Then he went to
George Washington University. And he was getting his PhD where
no, he was he went to Colorado State and San Diego State then
he was getting his PhD at George Washington. I
know the problem he didn't pay back a student loan. So the
President grinder
that's okay, Gregory is the message
credit the purple sage on that one? I have to say.
Yeah. Typical chat room. I like it though. The countries come to
by the way, chat, chat room humor.
That's what it is. Let's go across the ocean. To get mo
nation east. A very interesting development based upon a survey,
which is a study from a think tank, which I have a copy of, of
course, at the BBC broadcast this report about something new
that shall be held in classrooms called Digital judgment lessons
about information and how we get it. So you have trust on one
side, and you have distrust on the other side
to school sessions in which demos, explore pupils online
abilities in Liverpool asserted on Google and believed first
until that came up, to be honest, I know I shouldn't do
it. But Google's like a trusted website. And in East London,
where conspiracy theories are quickly raised. It was a
documentary
about this guy, he does his own research finding out that by
the way, listen to this idiot tried to explain 911 But he
doesn't know what it's called.
In one of the FBI, you know, the building that got hit by a plane
was a lot of plane, it was a missile from the army.
Some people's internet savvy, others fall foul to the
problems. The think tank says a common demos brought together
existing research and surveyed 500 teachers across England and
Wales,
teachers are increasingly finding that their pupils are
bringing into the classroom, conspiracy theories,
misinformation propaganda that they found on the internet. And
what I think that means is that young people aren't really being
taught enough about how to critically assess and evaluate
the information that they're finding online.
Demos want digital judgment to be a core part of the
curriculum. They say teachers need the training and resources
to do that. And they want parents to encourage their
children to think more critically about the information
they're seeing on the internet.
So I looked up their website demos, which is just demos, but
they call it demos. And I found their research papers in the
show notes as well in the asset section. And it's it's very
interesting. Now of course, I'm all for educating your own
children about how to look at things and question things in
fact, question everything, but what they're asserting certainly
in the survey, is everything on the internet is a conspiracy
theory everything And if you even look at their executive
summary their children are unable to recognize what
what so what's the URL of this thing?
It's on a second, I'm looking at the bring it up for you
demos.co.uk DM O S. As a result, children are too often
influenced by information they should probably discard. This
makes them vulnerable to the pitfalls and rabbit holes of
ignorance, falsehoods, cons and scams, inaccurate content online
misinformation and conspiracy theories, such as those which
surround the death of Osama bin Laden are appearing in the
classroom as pretty egregious. misinformation, propaganda and
conspiracy theories are being brought into the classroom. 47%
of teachers surveyed report having encountered arguments
within lessons or submitted schoolwork good work kids that
contain inaccurate internet based content they regard as
deliberately packaged by the producers to be misleading or
deceitful. For example, Holocaust denial packages
radical historical revisionism it bring in the Jew thing that
always works well on a survey 18% report this happens on at
least a monthly basis, perhaps more surprisingly, 48% of
teachers surveyed report having had arguments in class with
pupils about conspiracy theories, more than one and five
reported this happen on a monthly basis. So here's kids
questioning. I don't know if they're arguing per se, but
they're certainly questioning things. The answer is quite
simple. The Department of Education has joined forces with
the private sector and third sector to create what's the
third sector.
What's the third sector? It says? Yeah, CIA.
The Department for Education should join forces with the
private sector and third sector to create a set of teacher
resources our Ministry of Truth. Both the Department for
Education and internet companies such as Google and Yahoo. should
create materials that can be used in the classroom and were
possible. Teaching assistants at Bespoke web presence should be
created to provide an overarching context for digital
fluency teaching. This is the start of your digital internet
license.
Yes, well, I want to remind people, we do have podcasting
licenses available for $33.
Now here's why. Now I feel as a personal PR fail that we were
not mentioned in this document. But at least we got this kind of
sideline. Misinformation often thrives because it is more
attractively packaged and disseminated as shareable
social, media friendly products. teaching resources must use the
same techniques to teach us the young people use YouTube videos,
webinars, interactive tasks and podcasts.
So did you look at the people that are involved with this
government? They're all government shills the whole
thing.
Well, did you see the picture of Jake Chapman? What do you think
he's all about?
Under people, I see staff Jake Chapman home Lego robot. Jake
has been a demos associate since 2002. and is working on the
legal highs project and the guy stone he couldn't show for
picture day apparently. That's just crazy. So this is there you
go. Oh, also the use of imagery. I really, this is amazing.
They're totally with that. I'll just read it. With YouTube,
Vimeo, Flickr and other social media sites hosting visual
content. image manipulation techniques are increasingly
allowing misinformation to be powerfully and attractively
packaged by the government. The conspiracy film loose change,
which claims that 911 was a false flag attack perpetrated by
elements of the US intelligence became an internet sensation
attracting millions of views. The litany of errors Miss
attributions vague insinuations, subtle misquotes and outright
falsehoods. were masked by a cool soundtrack by DJ Skoolie
atmospheric narration and mesmerizing video editing. So
these guys just just in one little paragraph, say the whole
thing was bull crap.
And then he explained the World Trade Center seven No, no, no,
it has to be taken with a grain of salt
but then they do go into quote Cass Sunstein so it's beautiful
thing.
The director of this thing is one of your pals at the
Financial Times.
Oh really? Doesn't surprise me.
who's married to another person that Financial Times course.
Now this is Ministry of Truth and but to say we have to have
this, these teachings of how not to get duped on the internet in
the classroom is highly annoying.
Well, people do get duped a lot on the internet, let's face it
was sure
but it's one thing to say. Yeah, it's one thing to say you get
duped. But how about not getting duped by the news?
Well, the news. Now here's the joke of it. The news itself, the
news media, people have been duped over and over and over
again themselves. Yeah. So how does this help?
No, it doesn't, of course.
But I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill with
this thing. It's just a it's just a money grab?
Well, we'll see. We'll see if it gets implemented. And if they if
your kids have internet judgment lessons on the curriculum,
I liked the internet judgment.
How do you think we'll do that judgment
lesson of the day,
Adam curry and John C. Dvorak are not to be trusted. Not a
single thing they say is true ever.
Whenever I know you can, you know talking about twisting,
there was a there's a little feature that Jimmy Kimmel does
on his show, and I have always wanted to tape it a couple of
times, but I did tape it this time, where he, and I think we
should start. The only reason I want to run this is because I
think there's something we should think of doing. Okay,
which is that if you when somebody says things if you just
bleep
it, know that it's funnier, and you bring attention to it? Well,
I
know you make it sound like they're cussing. Are you are you
just Yeah, exactly. You may it's just a combination of things.
But these beliefs that he does are legitimate bleeps. I mean,
they're they're taking you get the right word. Like, like you
can say this, it's it's a fake picture. You know, you make it
you've made you have the F and the K in there sounds like
sounds like let's say he's saying a fuck picture. And it
would be very humorous to do with a Nancy with a what's her
name? My Speaker of the House Pelosi speech to just bleep the
crap out of it. And but play this. It swings you I'm talking
about you over there.
It's Thursday night, Sam for a weekly tribute to the FCC, where
we bleep and blur things whether they need it or not, is this
week in Unnecessary Censorship.
The president tonight was trying to raise his poll numbers
replenish his campaign coffers and up his supporters again. And
I
remember my parents by giving food to the hungry clothing to
the needy and to the homeless. Sort of cup for a year at
delicious dip. Just in time for the weekend. What has
been the craziest fan experience that you've had? And man pull
down his pants and his butt?
Michael Jackson. literally put his in the hands of Conrad. I
need the money. I need a deed. What does your wife scream
during an orgasm? Oh, God. She responds.
I certainly don't want my children to read the Internet
guy. Mommy's a tramp. So mommy to America and I don't want that
convicted murderer. George Wright escaped from a jersey
prison, reportedly by the wardens.
I do real estate during the day. And recently, my partner and I
have opened the city's premier blue bar and vanity lab is one
of
the lakes ago eight o'clock appointments.
You're easily amused, aren't you?
You know, I think what's funny, is that how someone can actually
listen to these clips and get those and figure those out on
the fly.
The I find just regular television without the beeps
funnier.
Yeah, okay. Quite honestly. Okay, go on. I tried to lighten
the show up once in a while. And this is the response I get.
Well, no, I thought it was funny. I'll give you that. We
can do this one for you. We haven't done this in a while.
And now back to real. Oh my god.
This is Obama has said she likes to do normal things that aren't
a part of her White House life. But those trips have been pretty
much a secret until now. It turns out the First Lady's to do
list included this Virginia shopping center. Check this out
behind those dark glasses tucked under that Nike cap. One of the
world's most famous women. Yes, that is the First Lady of the
United States at Target.
That was awesome. I mean, how stupid do they think we really
are? Apparently very stupid.
Wow. You didn't see what a great plug for target.
Yeah. And I think she was wearing an Old Navy blouse
actually. Isn't
this illegal?
Now Why? plugin,
but that's basically a hammer for target not based like the
government is approving people shopping at Target. Yeah. Well,
they've got to use was the PR person for target?
Well, they've got a union right. Maybe the the
I don't think so I think they do. I don't think so. Maybe they
need a union. Well, I don't think that's what the reason for
this was looks like somebody Yeah, this is a, this is a money
grab. My wife will go to target, but we need a little more.
Lecture. Yeah. Hey, you
watch. If you go look this up, I bet you the guy who's the CEO of
targets just coughed up a bunch of money.
Can someone please investigate that right now? That's a good
one. It wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me now or
maybe went the other way around. Hey, Barack, Barry, Barry,
listen up. Barry. You know, need some support for this election
year here. August
17 2011. Target fires worker who sought union target workers say
no to union. There's no union there. Okay. Now, if I was a
union person, I would say what's the deal? Target? Here's another
one cranes, New York Business is August. This year target fires
pro union employee, target workers reject union union cries
foul? Hmm. Tell me. Which side of the fence is he on with the
union thing? I don't know.
But that's kind of coincidental that there's a union stuff with
target going on. Only just a month before this happens? Oh, I
don't know. But it's certainly a promotion for target. There's no
doubt about that. Oh, yeah. I know che at Target. And now
she's like the the Easter egg. Amen. Let's go to Target maybe
Michelle will be there. It's cool. That you see the new
United States Postal Service ad, their new television campaign.
Now what now? Okay,
here's how the ninja broke? How
can they afford this? Well, here's
how the meeting went. Dude, what? What can we do to like,
what? How can we differentiate ourselves from email? I know.
We'll call it secure.
A refrigerator has never been hacked. And online virus has
never attacked a corkboard. Give your customers the added feeling
of security and printed statement or receipt provides
with mail. It's good for your business. And even better for
your customers. For safe and secure ways to stay connected,
because at usps.com/mail.
Your refrigerators never been hacked. Therefore, yet, yeah,
the Postal
Service or all these are all our appliances on IP addresses and
it will be hacked, I can assure you, I just
thought it was kind of interesting. That's that's the
best they could come up with. It's like, well, we're secure.
You know, I have on the other hand waited weeks for a check to
come. You know, I have had stuff getting lost in the mail. I
don't know I'm just saying
very well to check on the post offices is pretty funny, because
they're obviously try if you think it's bad now wait until
they privatize it. Yeah. Which is what they're trying to do.
For our and by the way, did you know that? That the number of
packages going through the post office is actually higher than
ever, though, is that a fact? And the amount of money they're
making is more than I mean, within the last five years is
more than ever. How does it work that they're broke them? Because
they were told to to, to fully fund the next 75 years of
projected retirements over the next decade is that they have to
fund seven years in advance every year and is breaking them.
It's a scam.
So they're not really broke. It's they have the money is just
in a separate account.
It's been they've been screwed out of it. They've been told to
did you get I mean, this is all over the place. The post office
is doing just fine. We've talked about this before. They're being
scammed, probably by the forces of Federal Express and UPS and
various lobbyists to put these guys out of business, even
though it's in the Constitution might be a problem. But to put
these guys out of business, privatize it do something. So
how are they going to do that? They came up with this scheme to
force the post office to fund fully fund the next 75 years
worth of retirements over the next 10 years, so in other
words, seven, seven years in advance every year, which you
can't afford. It's not possible. It's all the profits and
everything. If you didn't if they weren't doing this, they'd
be making lots of money.
So I haven't had the I just couldn't bring it up in myself
to watch some of those hearings on television on C span about
it. I thought it would die of boredom. Did this ever come up
in any of those? I don't recall
it's this has come up a number of So we had a clip once before,
one of the guys who's talking about this is a massive scam,
the public is being taken for a ride. So they're going to close
a bunch of offices and then fire a bunch of people. And then
they're going to still have problems because they basically
stealing the money from the post office, the post office is being
scammed, and the public doesn't seem to you to care, no, or
whatever. Now that Congress is going along with it. And then
the next one, the next thing you're going to have, instead of
being able to mail a letter for 44 cents, it's going to cost you
$5. And it's going to go on a FedEx truck.
I'm looking for the clip that we played of the of the post
office. So
I have a post office clip from democracy now that I sent last
week. And wanted to find out one,
well, I have one here, which is the no one a second history of
post office rip offs. Would that be something?
I don't know. Find the play. We'll see. Now hold on a second.
Do you want me to get the the one from last week?
The one from last week kind of explains the fact that they're
making money? Last show
Hold on a second, let me check for you. That's well worth it
now that we're talking about it. So before three, four? Right.
Oh, you know, I know I probably deleted it. Because when when we
don't use a clip. I delete it. I'm sorry.
What should be in your inbox?
Yeah, hey, everyone wants you to go do something for yourself?
Well, Adam parses his email,
well, you got this great program, you keep bragging
about?
Forget about it. European Union. I have come across the smoking
gun. And I've done some work for you all those of you that live
in the United States of Europe. This is about the European
Stability Mechanism. And this is something you have not heard of,
although it was there is a picture of I believe 20 finance
ministers from the Euro zone, which does not include Gitmo
nation, east, the UK because they don't use the euro. But as
the Kingdom of Belgium, the Federal Republic of Germany,
this the official title is actually the Kingdom of Spain,
the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Republic of Austria, etc,
etc. And I'm looking through this document, it was signed on
July 11 2011. And so it's done. It's a done deal. But now it has
to be ratified before December 31 of this year. And it's a very
interesting document. And it basically is, for those of you
living in Europe, here's how you're going to get raped. Okay.
You want to kind of just go through this for a second, John
might find this interesting, though, committed to ensuring
the financial stability of the euro area, recalling the
conclusions of the European Council adopted on the 25th of
March for the establishment of a European Stability Mechanism
that everyone's talking about this EFS F or whatever it is.
But that's actually not and that's the thing they show you
in the headlines. And under the cover, is this fun, they're
going to put together the fund will be 700 billion euros 700
billion. The ESM will cooperate very closely with the
International Monetary Fund in providing financial assistance
to any of the Eurozone countries that should need money from this
700 billion euro fund. It's very interesting. Because there's a
couple of provisions, you know, I like to read these these
documents. Here it is like the IMF ESM will provide financial
assistance to an ESM member when his regular access to market
financing is impaired. So essentially, this is what
they're going to do with Italy and Portugal and Spain. I have,
by the way, the PDF is all highlighted in the show notes.
If you can't, so that can be calls. So they can call for more
money and you have to pay so above the 700 billion you have
to pay extra if there's a cash call. If any ESM member fails to
pay any part of the amount due and respect to its obligations.
Then you basically dilute in your shares and your exercise of
voting rights. So then, you know, if your country can't pay
then you're screwed Shut up. You can't say anything anymore. Then
we have the interesting bits. Ally's gonna scroll down here as
the capital calls bit. The ESM has its seat in principal office
in Luxembourg, of course, where all the shills are areas. The
ESM is property funding and assets wherever located and by
whomever had had held shall enjoy immunity from every form
of judicial process except to the extent that the ESM
expressly waives its immunity for the purpose of any
proceedings by the terms of any contract, including the
documentation of the funding instruments, the property,
funding and assets of the ESM shall wherever located and by
whomever be held immune from search, requisition
confiscation, expropriation, or any form of seizure taking or
foreclosure by executive, judicial, administrative, or
legal action. In other words, fuck you. Whatever we do is up
to us, the archives of the ESM and all documents belong to the
SM are held by it shall be inviolable. In other words, you
can't go into their building, you can't look at the documents.
Then the directors of the premises of the ESM shall be
inviolable. To the extent necessary to carry out the
activities providing this treaty, all property funding and
assets will be free from restrictions, regulations,
control and moratoria of any nature, nothing shall be taxed.
And in the interest of the SM the chairperson of the Board of
Governors, governors, ultimate governors, Director, alternate
directors as well as managing director other staff members
shall be immune from legal proceedings with respect to acts
performed by them in their official capacity. So enjoy
inviolable eye inviolability in respect of their official papers
and documents. This is despicable. So a group of
douchebags got together and said, We're going to take 700
billion euros from all the countries who are in the
Eurozone, we're going to manage it however, we feel fit, you
can't say anything about it. And you can't come after us in any
way whatsoever. This is the start of what I predicted.
And what was that?
That all the all the taxation, taxation of every single year
old country and then you have nothing to say about it? And
then Brussels will have all the power that taking all everyone's
money 700 billion euros John,
it's a trillion dollars.
And but but but it right here in the document, it says if we need
more money, then we make a cash call. If you can't pay, you
dilute and you have no voting rights. So guess who's gonna
win? Germany?
Well, this is a little less violent in the Hitler approach.
I'm telling you hit let's go on Hi, I should have known didn't
have to kill all those people. But as the smoking gun and just
be on the lookout in your eurozone, country, or member
state, be on the lookout for the ratification of this document,
and see if there's any press coverage of it at all, anything?
What's the name of the document? Again,
it's about the ESM the European stability or name
for the document? Or is it got a number or something?
It's the ESM treaty. So what it's called, I mean, has a
really long title.
Just the ESM treaty, establishing the European
Stability Mechanism between and then it gives all the countries
is the ESM treaty. And it was already signed by by unelected
people. They just signed it. They
had I had a job if you can get I think we should work to try to
get a job with these people. Ah,
wouldn't it be great, we could certainly do a little bit on
their PR just as that sucks. Before we get into our thinking
some producers, I want to remind you that most of the news that
you're hearing is completely controlled by corporations. And
it was a fun call on the NPR the other day by what could have
been a no agenda listener except he forgot to throw in in the
morning or best podcast in the universe.com. But at least he
made a little bit of fun of the Uber Lords that control the
puppets on the microphones.
Let's go next to Wes and Wes is on the line from Naples in
Florida.
Yeah, my my big question is, you know, this thing is fixed. If it
were a price fight, they would put the referee in jail. Every
time we have a debate. You put two guys up there, Perry and
Romney, the lighting is good. The rest of you got about six
minutes on the debates. Those two get most of the media, then
the same thing is true today. Ron Paul got carried California
on the straw poll. I haven't heard he mentioned by you guys.
He's leaving the nation in straw polls. I haven't heard you
mentioned that. The military has behind him almost 100% I haven't
heard you mention that. Most military people are behind him.
You're just leaving out as if he weren't even there. Is someone
from up in the top telling you guys to do that. Are you doing
it on your own? Wesley just curious, we
have you on the radio telling us so thanks very much.
Big Boys aren't I?
I like that. Those guys up there telling you what to say. And
then ended up with this podcast universe.com and tomorrow
I'm gonna show my move by Jonah to no agenda. Imagine all the
people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
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Funny, you'd get a toothbrush and I never got my CIA challenge
going.
Well, you know, do you do you really want the RFID chip that
provides for tracking for the drones if you want it? I mean,
I'll send you mine. I'm sure it works.
No, no, no, no, no. All right, I would put it in the microwave
though, just to be safe.
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pants and booze. Good to see you. Excellent. A. By the way, I
saw this awesome movie as documentary. Moon Rising, which
is now in his second version. And you can see it on YouTube.
It's in the show notes link and it and what they did is they
colorized all the NASA pictures of the moon, because they're all
in black and white. Which I've always found kind of strange.
Even the Hubble telescope everything's always in black and
white. But they which I don't think the moon is just gray. So
they called they took earth tones and coordinated that to
the moon pictures. And it's unbelievable because then you
really see the moon bases. And they're big. Really, really big.
The moon bases yeah. Oh yeah, the moon bases there's there's
light disks hovering above different sections. They show
you how they've manipulated all of the NASA photographs I think
is the subtitle the movie is the biggest lie never told or
something like that. It's it's really phenomenal. It's just an
outstanding documentary. And it goes all the way to the moon
elevate the space elevators. Pretty cool.
Yeah, the space elevator.
Have you ever heard that joke? Okay. You know me I don't always
discredited right
off the bat. So I have a book to recommend for our book club. Oh,
good. Governing through crime of the war on crime transformed
American democracy and created a culture of fear came out in
2007. It's by Jonathan Simon. And I was I was looking at this
book and also the the stats on you know, we've talked about
this before the prisoners in this country, we get started in
1980. And just cranked way up because it's become a way of
making money with rights, enslaving, you know, we have a
regular slave system, but then we need this slaves in jail to
work for 10 cents a day. And so that's where we're trying to
privatize as many of the jails as we can. Yeah. And so I was
thinking about this when I was watching the watching for
propaganda on TV. And I was and and then it just dawned on me
that there was an interesting episode, the last episode of
NCIS, in the new season, and it was called restless episode. And
it was about an ex con, it was about some girl who was abused
as a child, it turns out that the owner was an ex con of a
restaurant was the bad guy. And the whole restaurant was still
doing criminal activity. You know, this guy was running a
legitimate business, which was to give us the meme that once a
con, always a con. And, and to drive this home, I thought the
most interesting kind of subtext was when they went to visit that
guy the first time in his restaurant that he owned,
disposed to be legitimate. The line was out the door. That
meant that the restaurant was obviously hyper successful. And
despite that, he was still a crook. Course.
And what is the point of that? That propaganda?
The point is, is to make sure that people realize that
criminals should never be hired, they're always going to be
criminals, and the criminal classes is exactly what it is.
They're dangerous are out there all the time. They should
probably be in jail, working, working, working in jail to work
at 10 cents a day.
Someone else caught a little propagation on blue blood so
your watch that shot isn't the show with Tom shall
watch it I find it to be I find the pacing of that thing just
unwatchable.
It's also really bad acting as referenced in this clip. I was
here yesterday one day, a perfect timing when you hear
now. Can you open the door presser?
There's a girl young in their 20s to name not good with names.
I call them all honey. But I thought I heard fighting coming
from that when I was having my dinner last night. And would you
do dinner when it was finished? It already stopped. You know the
signs you see something to say something.
You know the signs. See Something, Say Something takes
us right back to your Ruby Ridge thing.
Actually, somebody sent. It has a website now. Where they're
collecting. Initially they're collecting pictures. This guy's
I think he's in New York. He's just collecting photos. We'll
we'll post this and where
were you during the opening of the show where I actually gave
the name of the website?
Oh, I was in the bathroom. Okay. I suggested to the guy that he
opened this up for everybody.
It's open. I can't believe it. When I do the PR mentions the
are you just clipping your nails? No, I'm
in the bathroom. Okay, because it's
C and se gallery.org. And this whole long rap about it. You're
hurting now.
Oh, well. I think I dozed off.
I think we've been married too long, honey. Is he just making
lists? He just making listening noises now yeah.
You're not even paying attention to me. I'm
alright. Alright, let's talk about Syria. Back on the radar
with a very interesting report from your own news. Who I kind
of like they do kind of just spell it out pretty plain and
simple and not with too much. We know it's no sound effects and
really slow edits. As the ambassador US Ambassador Ford
was pelted with eggs and tomatoes in in Damascus. And
they actually, you know, when I listened to the report, and I
want to hear your opinion, John, so listen, please. It sounds
like while you tell me what you hear.
The US has condemned Thursday's attack on a convoy carrying
their ambassador whilst he visited opposition members in
Syria. Robert Ford was in the capital Damascus when a crowd of
President Bashar Al Assad supporters threw rocks, eggs and
tomatoes at the vehicles. Earlier he'd had to wait for
help from Syrian security. Though no one was injured. A
number of embassy cars were damaged. The crackdown on pro
democracy protesters continues with Assad blaming the unrest on
foreign incitement the government claims seven soldiers
have been killed fighting terrorists in the central town
of Stan, which has mounted armed resistance after months of
peaceful demonstrations.
So here's what my take away from this report and I want to hear
your opinion. The government's there says, look, there's
foreign actors in here that they're causing a big ruckus,
they're making a stink, it's not us. Then the US comes to talk to
the so called opposition party, which will be a new National
Transitional committee. And the people there say boo, were
throwing eggs and you only see pictures of eggs and tomatoes,
no rocks, but apparently they threw rocks too. So it aren't
the people of Syria saying USA get out. You are the ones
causing this problem or am I miss reading this?
You know, they're also I still don't see the the return to the
anti Syrian memes in the New York Times they had a picture on
the front page of maybe it was today's or yesterday's paper,
where they had it said Syrian protester holding you know, as
this was some person with a mask on, like, just wrapped in a, you
know, like a head dress and holding up, it would look like a
big heart. And it said it supposedly said something like
freedom now or something like that. And it was one lone person
in the middle of the street. There was nobody else there.
Yeah. Yeah. One lone person that then This to me is the message
that there's nothing going on. I think Syria is off the table.
Well, Lucifer came out. I have a couple of clippity clop clips
from her. This is not the clippity clop will do that in a
second unrelated topic, but she's there with the foreign
minister of Egypt, I believe. And you know that there's about
to be a script presented when Jill from CNN wants to ask a
question. And of course, you know, Hillary and Jill are best
buddies, and they're laughing it up and Jill is scripted to ask a
question about Syria violations.
And just I'm sorry, one other question. I represent a lot of
journalists that are, you know, making one. I
will tell Thank you remember them up to the shield. One, with
respect to Ambassador Ford, we've raised this ugly
unfortunate incident on the highest levels of the Syrian
government. We are demanding that the Syrian government take
all necessary steps to protect our embassy to protect our
diplomats in accordance with the international obligations that
every country must abide by. And this is, you know, this, this is
absolutely required. The Vienna Convention requires that host
countries protect property and persons of diplomatic missions.
And I must say that this inexcusable assault is clearly
part of an ongoing campaign of intimidation, intimidation,
aimed at not only American diplomats, but diplomats from
other countries, foreign observers who are raising
questions about what's going on inside Syria. It reflects an
intolerance on the part of the regime and its supporters. And
it is deeply regrettable that we have the Assad regime continuing
its campaign of violence against its own people. So I hope that
first and foremost, our property are the persons that serve in
our mission will be protected along with every other diplomat
from every other country. But secondly, we continue to call
for an end of the violence and we'll continue to speak out and
I think Ambassador Ford's courage and clarity is you know,
making the point that United States cannot and will not stand
idly by when this kind of violence continues
them's fighting words. We cannot and will not see that jail. hate
that bitch,
by the way. So I'm looking at this moon rising site. What bull
crap.
Okay, okay. The you don't have to watch it.
I like this one. Apollo 17. Earthrise photo was featured on
the cover of Life magazine. They have this little arrow pointing
says it says the earth should be behind the moon surface and
they've got a photographic anomaly. In fact, I don't even
see that. That's unbelievable. This whole thing. Bad, bad.
So meanwhile, Libya can just because we've got Anwar al
actory. Shot by a drone, doesn't mean that there isn't stuff
going on in the world.
By the way, the bloodthirsty right wing singers. We get them
some guy out here that got on one of the big good national
shows named Brian Sussman. This guy said he's going on and on
about how great it was we killed this guy. And he says, Then he
heard the story that apparently they missed with the first shot.
So the guy was running in the desert in fear. And then they
nailed him. And this is just great. Because he knew he was
like, you know, it's just I don't understand his mentality
of Do you remember the
president? I should have pulled that clip member? He said to the
Jonas Brothers, I got two words for you Predator drone.
No, yeah,
but you remember that? What? Yeah, when it was like don't
remember that. Oh, my god. I can't believe you don't remember
that. Hold on. Well, I
don't remember get played the clip. Yeah,
like like I had the clip on hand. Hold on a second. It was
during the you know that the the press thing? You know that what
he does every single year?
Yeah. Oh, you mean? Oh, you're talking about the the
correspondence? Correspondents dinner Dinner. Right. So he's
doing his humor. Exactly. It was talking as a humorous as an item
of humor. Yeah, it's sick.
Hold on a second. Obama. Jonas Brothers. Predator drone. That
doesn't find it. Here it is. Love the interwebs. But don't
trust anything you find on Google? Because you know, it's
probably Jonas
Brothers are here. They're out there somewhere. Sasha and Malia
are huge fans. But Boys Don't get any ideas. I have two words
for you. Predator drones.
Very funny. Obama. Yeah. Because it turns out he'll actually do
it. Two words. I'll actually f you up boy. So John McCain,
Lindsey Graham. And I forget who the third douchebag is. They're
all in Libya. why they're there with Pepsi
business at dealing with there must be some business action
going on. It's only about business and there what are they
getting in on it?
Well remember that these are the guys retiring shortly. These are
the guys that were all for the no fly zone and, and removing
Gadhafi. And they were out front and center that part of the
Defense Committee or whatever it is. So why were they there?
Well, of course, there were the CEOs of PepsiCo, the oil
companies, and I have to give Shep Smith Shep Shep Smith, shoe
to break from it. I gotta give him a little props because he
slipped in a little funny. While he's talking to Lindsey Graham,
who is a total douchebag. He is actually slamming Lindsey Graham
Graham on the air while he's talking to him. So they've left
Libya now. And they had this whole thing that all hanging out
with the TNC which by the way, in the UK is called the NTC.
They can't even get their branding straight to the hanging
out with the Transitional National Committee members who
are saying, Oh, it's gonna be months until we get the
government all together. Of course, you know, Gadhafi is
still fighting in insert. And this is not done yet. But didn't
know reporting necessary, please, we don't need to know
what's going on. Because we have Russell Simmons in Wall Street.
And Shep Smith talks with Lindsay. He's in Malta now. He's
out of Libya. And she actually did a pretty good job.
Well, I listened to you speak on there. And that sounded all
peachy keen and hunky dory. Of course, the problem is, for 40
years Muammar Gaddafi hasn't allowed anybody to organize. So
there are no organized grunts. There's no way to form a
government. They don't have any idea what freedom is, has been
will be. I mean, and the not war is still going on in a not war
way. It just had like the not war. That's pretty good. Sort of
pie in the sky stuff with an opportunity to people go in
there and make a little money and not much more.
Well, I you know, he described us in 1776. They've got a lot of
challenges. You're dead, right? Their economy is crippled, but
they've got a lot of oil. It's an oil rich nation, they got
$134 billion identified that was
really about right Senator oil.
To me it's not it's about having people in a region to align
themselves with democratic principles and not break down
and and flight with Americans on it. I think this is in our
national security interest to replace Qaddafi with people who
can live in peace with us and we can do business with. I'm a big
believer that democracies don't go to war with each other and
where you can find people willing to embrace the rule of
law and democracy and fight extremists. You're to help.
That sounds right. So about time to get over into Syria. Hmm.
Well, Syria is a different problem. But that day is coming
for the serious people. You know, 25,000 Libyans killed
60,000 wounded, wounded, 3000 maned. These are tough people. I
mean, we can't really relate in our lifetime to living In a
police state, but the folks in Syria keep coming. They keep
sending in saying they keep sending in helicopters. This
idea of charting your own destiny and, and having a better
life for your children is pretty contagious. I will push aside
out I hope we'll do more embargoes, arms embargoes, and
we'll speak up louder. You can't put troops into every place on
the planet, but you sure can stand up for values like Ronald
Reagan did during the Cold War.
Well, Senator Lindsey Graham in the mall, so just after being
over there in the not war territory, and Libya, Senator,
it's nice to speak with you. Thank you very much.
I kind of I kind of liked it off the reservation. He is. Well,
he's
one of the 50 most powerful gay men in the universe. That's what
they say. I like to kind of not war thing. And it's all about
oil. And then you know, for Lindsey Graham, well, I sure
hope we get Syria because I got me some buddies here. We got to
go on a trip field trip. We got to go to Syria. I hope we get
Syria really do it just like 1776. What?
Idiot, what an idiot.
So I here's my clippity clop clip. So I'm always looking for
clippity clop clip from Lucifer who has hooves. And she walks
out through the big double doors, and she's walking out
with the foreign minister of was Becky was Pakistan, the Uzbek
foreign minister. And by the way, it's the shortest press
conference they've ever done. She says something he says
something through an interpreter which way they're gonna write it
off. Yeah. Which I'm not going to play. But well, first of all,
let's just listen to clip the clock because that's always fun.
Listen. On the Run now and off the road.
She has hooves. Why is your wagon? telling you she's got
hoods. clippity clop clippity clop. And here she is
our minister here to Washington. We are working well and closely
together with his Becca Stan on a number of issues. And this
gives us an opportunity to discuss matters of importance
between our two nations as well as regional issues as well.
So that's all she said. And like why is she hanging out with the
dude from his Becky Stan, and I had to search around and I found
it. And this for me, it's a new meme, maybe, maybe that's
something we should have been tracking or maybe I just missed
it or whatever. But Susan Rice my other favorite woman from the
State Department, who was the United States Ambassador to the
United Nations kind of gave it away in the United Nations
council meeting and moves
towards the 2014 transition. We know that government alone
cannot grow as Afghanistan's economy. So we must all continue
to work to create an environment that attracts private sector
investment. Last week, Foreign Minister Rasul German foreign
minister Westerwelle and Secretary of State Clinton met
with 27 of Afghanistan's neighbors and partners to
advance their shared vision of a New Silk Road. The New Silk Road
is an Afghan led venture, a rallying point for securing
Afghan regional and international commitments to
support Afghanistan transition and develop a sustainable Afghan
economy that will benefit the whole region.
So this is about the New Silk Road and of course, Uzbekistan
is an important country bordering on Afghanistan then
perhaps we should go look back into history and understand what
the original Silk Road was and I thought you would be the right
guy to ask
why would you throw this stuff out me out of out of the blue
the Silk Road was theirs? Well first of all, if you go to China
and you float around there's a bunch of Silk Roads there's more
than one but the main one was to move silk from China across the
to the in I don't know. I mean, I don't know about the Silk Road
Well, you've heard of it, haven't you? Surely you've been
on the Silk Road training to train
once you can sell frustrating
route is a very famous but there's if you just look into
it, you'll find it there's this is called the Silk Road that's
called the Silk Road. You know,
the ancient Silk Road had Afghanistan at its heart of
lucrative trade routes between Asia and the West. The New Silk
Road will involve modern highways, rail links and energy
pipelines. So this is the new thing is to Clinton met with 27
neighbors can even name 27 countries around Afghanistan. 27
is like four. So the way this works is As we go in, we let the
CIA guard the poppies so they can sell it and make their money
to go drone people drone American citizens does the work.
Yeah, but but the CIA is selling it. Yeah, there's the army
protects the poppy. So the CIA can go sell it and drone people
because they need money for their drones. And then
meanwhile, we're building a new Silk Road right through
Afghanistan. And you know that they were there with all the big
industrialists. So this whole thing was it's Why does no one
even report a little bit on this? This is not from a news
report. This is from the United Nations video feed, which is
real video. This takes actual work to get it
low. What do you think?
Yeah, well, it's not happening. But watch for this mean, the New
Silk Road decree to kill to keep popping up. They'll be talking
about it more and more and how great it is. And this is what's
going to end why
do we need a silk road in a day of aviation? Oh, no, no, no.
I do I really have to tell you that you know that that's just
on the board trains. Planes bad. Come on, you know better than to
ask.
I'd like to see some trains running through those Afghani
mountains. Yeah,
well, it's gonna happen. It's definitely going to happen.
What you're saying is that this is just a big money grab waste
of money. Yeah.
Well, not waste of money. It's gonna be good for somebody, not
for us. President Sarkozy, by the way, was in Tangier, Casa
Blanca to kick off the new high speed rail line there, which
France is paying for with $4.1 billion.
Well, that's a waste of money.
I was someone must think it's good. I love this story about
trains and get my nation east. The National Express East Anglia
train ground to a halt under the baking midday sun outside of
Ipswich in Suffolk. After coolant levels dropped, causing
the engine to cut out. It was a whopping 70 degrees. Passengers.
bemused passengers, the report says sitting in these stuffy
carriages, heard a desperate plea over the tannoy from the
driver for bottled water. So late people had to bring their
bottled water to put it into the engine as coolant because the
great trains in in the United Kingdom crap out at 70 degrees.
It was so hot.
Unbelievable.
No, believe it. Just believe it. It's sad wish this
train thing would be would end. It's kind of ended in this
country. California, of course, we're still going moving ahead
with a project that will never be finished.
Well, it's still in the it's in the Jobs Act. It's in the age in
the AJ in the American jobs
that we already know that's not going to pass so
Oh, some some parts of it. May you don't know. You don't know.
All right. See you got anything else?
Ah, let me see here.
I do have the BBC saying that. In Northern Ireland, they're now
also linking the swine flu vaccine to narcolepsy. And
they're blaming it all on pandemics. Pan Pandemrix, I'm
sorry, Pandemrix. Silly. Yeah. So that appears to actually
there's appears to be some truth to it. They can't get around it.
Well, that's not it was an internet rumor. I thought it was
bull crap. No,
it's not. Apparently it's true. But you can't trust the internet
for that kind of stuff. You have to ask your teacher if it's
okay.
I have an odd clip. I don't know quite what to do with it. I want
I know what I'm gonna do with it. I'm going to clip out this
guy's voice and use it in the clip show, which is where this
guy says Better safe than sorry, is probably one of the most
wimpish sounding men in the world saying Better safe than
sorry. They're trying to ban some fairly safe actually, it's
a soil goods kind of a soil conditioner fumigant methyl
iodide, which has been proven safe and they're trying to
replace its visible agricultural story. They're trying to replace
methyl bromide with this stuff because methyl bromide is quite
toxic. And and so there's some guy out of the blue, who's
obviously corrupt, doesn't really he's trying to pass some
law but just play this and listen to this guy's voice and
tell me this isn't a keeper
reports the pesticide has caused any illnesses. Well, no grower
in Monterey or Santa Cruz County has requested using the
pesticide monitoring doesn't want to wait until that happens.
Better safe than sorry. Let's be methodical. Let's review the
science.
So far methyl iodide is approved in all 50 states.
What does that jabroni
mean? So here's a product that hasn't been approved, nobody's
using it, nobody's gonna use it. It's illegal everywhere. But he
wants to ban it for some unknown reason. And he says Better safe
than sorry, which to me is the classic, you know, asshole.
Saying Better safe that you can say that about anything. I mean,
we were when I was when I was the editor of info world we used
to we were when, in the early days of laptop computers. There
were the FAA was banning their use on airplanes, under all
circumstances, and you and you, you, there was documentation
that shows that there was no reason to do this. And the
common thing that you do you start asking around about this,
and the common thing they keep throwing back at ya, well, yeah,
there's no evidence they do anything, but it's better to be
safe than sorry. Hey, Tammy. I find it highly annoying.
Whenever I hear somebody say that I just get irked.
Alright, my last clip is from the president that I could be
when I was in high school. And certainly not when I was in
middle school. I did not love every class I took. I wasn't
always paying attention the way I should. I remember when I was
in eighth grade, I had to take a class called ethics. Now, ethics
is about right and wrong. But if you'd asked me what my favorite
subject was back in eighth grade, it was basketball. I
don't think ethics would have made it on the list.
No kidding. Don't say
every right wing talk show. I pulled that one out of the blue.
Really?
Yes. Yeah. Don't listen to any of that crap. And when I do it,
but it was actually interesting, because he goes on from there 10
minutes about what ethics really are, are really is and I kind of
pull the right wing talk show move here on you. Because if you
really listen to the clip, and you just play that piece is way
out of context. Yeah, but still funny. I'm
sure it was. I mean, it's funny. I agree. It's funny. It's funny,
but I mean, I don't understand what Where's where his speech
writers are coming from anymore. I think they look. You know,
when he was doing speeches early in his in 2008. They had this
superstar kid that was doing all the speeches. Supposedly you
remember this guy? Yeah. Yeah, sure. Whatever happened to him?
He's now a writer in Hollywood. Something Yeah, no, no, no, he's
not working there anymore. No,
he left to go write for TV shows.
Is this right?
Yeah, hold on a second. What was the guy's name was Obama speech
writer, like
Hollywood 18 or something as a kid goes
a little older now. We see John love it. Here it is. Award
winning comedian and an Obama speech writer. Has is escaping
the White House for the glitz and glamour of the Inland Empire
where he hopes to make a name for himself as a Hollywood
screenwriter.
What's his name? John. Love it.
Lol. Like that comic? Yeah.
J
O N L O V E T T. And
stakes. Yeah.
It's true. It's always been a dream of mine to write comedy
and be creative said the 29 year old. So he's 29 now is that the
same guy seems a little Yeah,
probably. Yeah. That is him. It was a wunderkind here he writing
really fluid by losing him.
Oh, yeah. Love. It has warmed his comedy chops in DC writing
rows for Hillary Clinton early in his career and going into
something his former boss David Axelrod called comedy overdrive
for Obama's White House Correspondents Dinner. Well, he
probably wrote the Jonas Brothers joke.
Good job. Jolly. Good job tasteless. Yeah.
All right, everybody. Hey, I'm
off to Austin tonight.
Oh, is tonight tonight?
Yeah, we're gonna go for three days, actually. Two days. flying
back early Wednesday morning. Very early. The
weather in Texas right now. During the day about 90
degrees, Sunny, Sunny.
It's slightly Why would I think you're getting you're getting
storms in LA from that Mexican thing.
Yeah, the Mexican I had last night is causing storms a bit.
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