Well, Summer is almost upon us. And the days well, they are
growing longer. They're growing warmer on both continents. It's
time once again for no agenda coming to you from the curry
manor in the United Kingdom. It's Adam curry.
And then up here in northern California, where it looks to be
another sunny day. I'm John C. Dvorak. Hey, John,
good to talk. We haven't spoken almost all week. Have we? I know
once we did you were in New York.
Right? Yeah, I gave you a call because there are crappy cell
phones. left me a message saying just a vague message. You know,
they don't timestamp the messages. So just said, it's
Adam. Give me a call.
So the way that was a text message?
No, no, this was a voice message.
Really? Yeah. So
who knows how old it was,
holy crap. I have I did switch to maybe that was part of the
problem. I did switch to the words the network, the three
network instead of oh two, which is the one that was giving me
all the problems. So now people are leaving me voicemail,
because you actually get through when you call and I'm
unavailable. Now, of course. The downside is I fixed the problem,
but I have voicemail. Which means I gotta listen to it. I
don't find voicemail very productive.
No, I find it confusing for one thing, especially with those
systems that we have. It's an 18 T system. They don't timestamp.
I mean, even the hotel's timestamp half the time Pro
can Can you press a button and get a timestamp? If you there's
got to be some command for that.
I don't know. Maybe But who's gonna leave one?
No, I mean, you should be Oh, no, no, no, I
there's none that I know. I mean, it just comes in your
first inheriting message. And then you know, hi, Madam Can you
call? So
that was an uncanny uncanny impression of me, John. Thanks.
That was just fantastic. Yeah, well, I'm gonna get I'm done
with them. Actually, something messed up. Last. Last Friday, I
was invited someone share Dr. Blonde bombshell banker in
Holland, I invited her to come to the last episode, the last
live show of HoloLens Got Talent. And I said, you know,
I'll send you a text message with, you know, when I've got
the ticket to the door, or whatever the studio number is, I
sent you the text message. She never got it. So she didn't show
up. And it's like, you know, then three days later, she gets
a text message. It's not reliable anymore. Yeah, it
sucks.
That's not right.
Now it's not it has something to do with all the you know it
because it's hopping from one network to the other and
someone's messed up somewhere. I would probably say AT and T is
probably messed up.
Well, you know, there's it's not rocket science to send the
message out and ask for an acknowledgement. It's like hate
mail, right? It's like it should work. Yeah. And then if you
don't get the acknowledgement, you send it out again, until the
phone says, Hey, okay, okay, okay, it's in here, or I've
already got it listed, or the system is not even, it's not
even kept on the phone. It's kept on a server someplace
where you can choose to keep it on the phone, and you can
actually choose to get a receipt and acknowledgement receipt.
You can you can switch that on. No, nobody's gonna do that.
No, I know. But you can actually do it but it's really annoying
because then for every message you send you receive one you
know that it's been verified, but there is a way to do it.
Well, whatever the case, well, so I'm
getting me a UK number when that with my new iPhone, which is
coming out
as a UK
UK number I'm just gonna get a regular UK cell phone number.
I'm done with it with this 18 T crap from the States. You still
calling a US number when you call me over here?
Yeah, do you? Are you sure we're gonna have to call long distance
to get ahold of you now? Yeah. Convenience.
Oh, boy. How horrible. Yeah, absolutely.
So what's been going on that, you know, I didn't take any
notes this week. So I have literally no agenda. Although,
you know, there's a bunch of good things that have happened.
I'm sure we can chat about.
Yeah, I mean, I got lots of interesting stuff that's going
on over here in Europe. I wouldn't mind here about what
what you got going on. I I always have to start off, John.
It's your turn.
Well, you know, Obama seems to be the guy they're gonna run for
the presidency.
Do you know how many people are angry at me about this? Why
would you do well, of course, I totally took your your theory.
And I've been saying forget about it. Clinton's gonna get
the nomination. So my wife has been telling everyone you Oh,
Adam says Clinton's getting the nomination. And everyone I've
told it like you douchebag you know, it's like, now we look
like shit. Because there was such a short thing. It was a
shoo in. You said
it's not over. Well, that's
what I'm saying. I keep saying look, you know, don't
underestimate these Clintons. You know, she could run it as an
independent and still try and go for the presidency. But you're
right. It's not over. I don't quite understand how it works. I
mean, does she have to concede before?
No, even if she concedes it's not over? It's not it's not
official until it goes to until the convention says it's over.
Right?
So anything can still happen. I am with you, John. I think that
they've got shut up their sleeve that is not to be believed. I
think they can change people's minds.
It wouldn't take much. I mean, the thing going on the rumour
right now is that there's a videotape of Michelle Obama
doing something weird.
You know, there's another thing that's out did you hear about
this? Apparently two members of the, of the congregation the
church he he belongs to in Chicago. Two of them have been
murdered. And both were apparently now either gay or
bisexual men. And you know, so now this is now the story going
around that Obama had that he's bisexual and that he had an
affair with one of them and that it says wacko guy who's all over
YouTube saying he blew Obama in a limo is real I don't on
that. Do you think I would have heard of that? Or we would have
blogged it by now. Is that her maybe?
Oh shit, man. I'll find it for you. Hold on. Oh, yeah,
let's send me I was looking at it today was sent me a link and
I'll blog it so I didn't hear that one. But I'm not paying
much attention on the wasn't on. I'd say Brian Williams wasn't
discussing it. Let me tell you right now.
Let me see if I Which one do you want to get you want the story
about the about the two guys who are executed? Right? And the
blowjob envelopes? And the blowjob guy Hold on. I'll give
you one blowjob guy if you can give me what was Michelle Obama
doing?
We don't know. Here's the story though. It's going around.
Apparently, somebody's got a videotape of her going nuts. And
just like a freak out knots are
well you know, she's kind of a she might be bipolar for all we
know. I mean, she's got something. She's a mean spirited
person. You From the looks of it. And so
Patricia says the same thing. She says I don't like her.
There's something about her. And I think other more people may
have this. If it just I don't know what it is. You know, I of
course have an immediate kinship being a not so likeable guy
myself.
She's a ballbuster
Hold on. I got it here, John. Here it is. This is a great
story. I can't believe they did about this. Hold on.
Yeah, you know, maybe I'm not keeping up
well, it's also from the American Free Press. dotnet
dotnet here it is. Murder of Donald young a 47 year old choir
mastered former Reverend Jeremiah Wright's Trinity,
United Christ of church, a church of Christ, the same
congregation that Obama has attended for the past 20 years
to other young black men that attended the same church Larry
bland and needs Spencer were also murdered execution style
with bullets to the backs of their head all within 40 days of
each other beginning in November 2007. All three were openly
homosexual
and Christian, and then the right you know, right right is
decided to go back to to the pulpit.
I didn't even know he left
when he was supposed to be retiring, but it looks like he's
not going to and I think he's worked about a lot of things.
I'm just gonna hit you with this with this video page, Larry
Sinclair's The guy, he's a real cook. I don't care how bisexual
you are. You're not going to let that guy blow you okay? It's
just not gonna happen. No way. I mean, Obama may or may not be my
favourite politician. But I think he's a lot better than
that.
I never thought of you know so here's the story that I when I
was in I was in Manhattan this week and was talking to my agent
and there's a couple of appear apparently a I'm not sure who
was involved in this but uh, but some guys that we both know, I
guess who are like Democrats or whatever they like I don't know
when the right that does a vague story. So let me start off with
that premise. prepared that they had dinner with Obama and it
turns out the guy something of a of a of a he was unlikable. They
said at the end of the whole thing he was mean to the to the
help and arrogant and has all these characters. I mean, if you
watch the guy I find you know, I saw him the other day and I
think people are gonna get tired of him. He just got bought. He's
like a robot. Well, he's got a robot like anybody's always
like, kind of like, kind of looking you know, with this kind
of, you know, look at me kind of thing and he's very I don't
know, I just gets on my nerves at this point. I mean, I thought
when I when I first heard him give that speech at the
convention, well substantiated
this, John. I really appreciate it. He's just crazy. He just
creeps me out. He's no good.
The best I can do. Hey, I'm like I said I had
no agenda. I understand what I mean. I'm always thinking
where's the guys money coming from? We talked about that last
week. You guys got Scott 20s come out of his ears
and boy was a big years. And so I don't know, he just seems like
he's got a certain kind of quality that gets on that by the
time the election rolls around. I'm sure it's gonna get on
everybody's nerves. If somebody doesn't start coaching him to be
a little more human. Yeah. And I'm not so sure that this order
personality that he's got, you know, you know where
everything's inauguration with the pauses and more pauses
Yeah, that that's gonna get really irritating. I agree. I
think
it's gonna get irritating because it's unnatural people. I
mean, those are that's old fashioned. I mean, it sounds
good. It was really, you know, in 2004. At the convention, when
you first heard him do it, it was it was like, wow, because
caregiving
was kind of cool, right? It was like a, like a famous leader,
type of speech.
Absolutely. It was one of the best speeches you've ever heard,
and especially in contrast to what the debt what the
Republicans were up to. And so you know, it was jacked up about
it, and then he's, you know, but he's never did still, that's
what he does, apparently, the way just, it'll just I was
talking to you now. Well, Adam, what do you think of Obama?
He's like, when you listen to Obama, it's like you're
continuously talking to someone on Skype. It's delayed, and
sometimes the words get drawn out.
So anyways, so while these murderers are interested, but
somebody else was murdered for something else, there was some
other Obama affiliation. No, no, this was another thing that was
going on. And people were some it was like a whistleblower or
something. I can't remember this. Maybe by the end of the
show. I'll figure it out. Or we'll talk about it next week.
But there was also a mysterious murder. I've been
catching myself. spiralling down once in a while. Again, John
into the conspiracy theory tunnel.
Yeah, it's avoidable. Just stopped doing it. Well, yeah.
Yes. And no, I mean, you know, like this weekend, you know,
what's happening this weekend in Virginia, I'm sure you will log
this somewhere. No, I don't know what the Bilderberg group's
annual meeting. And by the way, I don't think that that's
probably just as harmless as the World Economic Forum. Now,
except without Scoble as probably exactly the same thing.
Ya know, there's just I don't see it being important or having
to do with and he's just a bit of a drinking club,
as well, although I must say, you know, it is a little bit
irritating, that you've got the, you know, you've got owners and
editors and big publishers of big media, who are also invited
and nothing's ever, ever discussed, and nothing's ever
printed about what goes on. That's irritating.
Yeah, I guess.
But that's not the conspiracy theory thing. I'm going down
just saying, you know, it's like, then you read about that.
And then before you know what you're looking at David Icke
videos, and everyone's a reptile, you know, it's like,
whoa, you know, step back for a sec.
Clean as always, I think that's more likely,
everyone's a reptile. I was telling Patricia about it. And I
was like, hon, you know, I'm just saying, Okay, I'm not
saying I believe in this, but, you know, um, so this is guy,
David Icke, he was, I think, a famous football player in the
UK. And then he became, he went on to become a sports
commentator. And then about 16 years ago, he went on the Terry
Wogan show. And it this whole thing about how the government
is trying to, you know, gain control over us through a number
of ways and really have us just be enslaved and which you know,
is viable. And then all of a sudden, he goes on this whole
reptile wrap the Queen Mother's a reptile.
Right? No, that's it. It's always funny, all these guys who
are into this kind of craziness. You know, they, they make a lot
of sense. And then all of a sudden, they fall off the cliff,
what is
calculated? Are these guys just in the business of selling
books, or I mean, some of this shit, they say, I
think they're nuts. I think these guys are crazy. But the
reptile thing, by the way, for anyone listening to it, I think
we blogged it probably about a year and a half or two years
ago, when he came out again, with one of these theories. And
for anyone out there wants to know, I mean, essentially, what
he's saying is that, you know, a number of people around the
world are actually reptiles that are trying to children trying to
kill us all. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not seeing any real evidence.
Well, you know, the evidence they show in these videos is
historic, historic symbolism, you know, throughout the ages of
the reptiles of the snake, you know, and lots of images of
snakes and reptiles eating people eating children drinking
blood. And then this is great, do you? This is a great video,
and I'm sure it's doctored, but it doesn't even matter. So, of
course, George Bush senior is, of course, one of the reptiles,
according to the theory, and that he after Katrina, Katrina.
So 41 George Bush, President 41 And Clinton went on TV and they
had some website and they were soliciting donations. It was it
was really kind of uncomfortable to watch and, and Bush was kind
of speaking a little bit slower than Clinton. It was kind of a
we I don't even remember it just felt really uncomfortable that
they weren't the way they were talking together. I remember and
so they have that video of Bush. And they zoom in on it and you
sing Yeah. So the what the what the showing and what you see in
this video true or not is you see bushes eyes go reptilian and
they you know, they get like little little thin slit, and
they turn red.
Yeah, that's not doctor. That's what that's the way they shot
it.
It's fantastic. It's fantastic. But anyway, now whatever. Hey,
here's one that I didn't send to you on purpose because I wanted
to talk about it on the show. And I did want you to blog it
before before we talked about it. That's how bad is pecan
Machame.
Blog. We can't go on seeing each other this way.
I can't send you anything. This is from the from Russia today. I
shall I should send you the link. Russian geologists have
discovered a new mineral which absorbs radiation from liquid
nuclear waste. And now we're striving to chemically clone it
in the hope a may solve the problem of radioactive waste
disposal.
So that's called lead.
Kryptonite. No, it's not it's called. The hell is it called?
They don't give the name.
Send me the link send me this. It sounds like a typical Russian
crock of crap story. Well,
you'd like to believe it right?
Yeah, everybody likes to believe this stuff. Russia today.
Its nature that is showing us a way to solve the problem of
preserving those radioactive isotopes. Says inventor Dekoven
joke.
Meanwhile, they have a picture here on this site. It looks like
quartz doesn't it? Like I was just gonna say it looks just
like a big thing. Oh, Rose Quartz.
I used to collect rocks as a kid I have a little rock collection
you know the place to go if you haven't shot at it. There's a
rock shop and this is dead people going to really roll
their eyes on this one. But everybody knows about it. By the
way there's a rock shop in Sao Paulo Brazil. And one can only
imagine because Brazil is one of these countries that has you
know without the doodle the Amazon and the rest of it.
treasure trove of rocks that are cool, but they have geocodes and
this rock shop has probably I don't know 100 of these things.
God that are about me in many cases. What's the what is the
geo geo is said that rock that if you're busted open inside
it's all crystal Garn and that's not gardens was that whatever
that purple thing is and you crack it open in the oh and it
opens up like an egg and inside is all this beautiful crystal
and they have them there that 23456 feet high really awesome.
And I have some pictures I'll probably try to remember to blog
let me make a note I'll blog pictures of the God in Sao Paulo
Brazil is rock shop and it was a very famous place and they you
can go in there and you can buy like individual what kinds of
individual stones by the pound and you can use jewellers go
there to make junk jewellery
right you see my I think was my my grandmother gave me like a
starter kit rock collection when I was a kid like five or six and
and I got interested in rocks and you know I'd go out looking
for rocks of course I could never find anything near the
quality or anything is cool looking as there was in my
starter kit collection and then you know I used to go by rocks
and I feel kind of bad it's like son that's not really doesn't
didn't feel right buying the rocks and sit and play or sing
them and finding them yourself. You know it just felt wrong.
Well the My wife is into this. Let me she doesn't collect
rocks. But she did she was she was
geology she married one instead of collecting them
there you have it rock hard. Anyway, so
by Agra Yeah, what else does
she you know, there's a joke there. I'm not gonna use it.
This she anyway, she is still you know, we'll be driving
around she Oh, there's a such an such formation that blah blah
blah from uplift, and there's many
people over honey.
So anyway, oh. If you really like that kind of stuff, you
should go to the Museum of Natural History in New York
City. Yeah, they have. They'll give you the geologists. They'll
give you a tour. And they have some of the greatest stuff.
There's amazing. I think you can buy a tour like us individual
tour for about 100 bucks.
On a private tour. You mean?
Yeah. Private tour with the geologist. Oh, cool. That
maintains the collection so you get to see stuff you wouldn't
normally see. Yeah. Which reminds me know when I was in
Korea. I met a guy who's, I gotta get this Carter. I can't
remember his name right now. But he is the he's like the public
relations, Gopher and go to guy and intermediary for the
Vatican. Yeah. And so he says, I said, Well, when can I get a
tour of the Vatican? You know, he says, Oh yeah, I can take you
down into the archives that they'd never show anybody. And
I'm thinking I gotta you should do that. Oh, I better yeah.
Maybe when you're in Amsterdam is just a hop, skip and jump
over to Vatican City.
And this wouldn't be a bad idea. I mentioned to the guy that
Toronto he said to me that he's got stuff. He's, you know, he
goes through it. They don't even know what's down in the you
know, in the archives, outside from you know, they have their
museum and then they have all this stuff. Most museums now, a
days people shouldn't realise her, probably only what 5%
visible to the public dresses up, they rotate. Or if you take
that museum in China, that one in Taiwan, where they took all
the artefacts from the mainland, when Chiang Kai Shek fled China.
They is something that takes late like the collection that
can rotate it like every month for the next 100 years. And just
they still won't finish going through all this stuff and
never write anything anything new. Never ever duplicate
anything out there.
Yeah, many ways. So he says that he was looking over some of the
stuff down there, he found that divorce papers for Marco Polo.
He thought they were pretty funny. Little How many of you
would be interested in that, but I did. I'd be amused
to historic document. That's interesting.
Yeah. So they've collected you can imagine what the Catholic
Church must have collected.
That's in quotation marks collected.
So. So I was in New York, and I found an interesting counter
trend, which no one's discuss. I'm going to have to figure out
what what this is about. But it doesn't surprise me. But so I'm
sitting there in the lobby of this little hotel, which is it's
not it actually was refurbished, so it's actually pretty nice.
And even though it's in the middle of nowhere, which one was
it? It was the Bentley, it's over by them. It's like, it's
like about a block away from the bottom underneath the Queensboro
Bridge.
Oh, man. That's a it's a boutique hotel, I presume?
Yeah, it's like an old dump that was that's been fixed up a
little bit, even though they could have done a better job. In
some cases. At least the rooms are almost brand new.
Right? And what they did they just throw a sheet over some old
some old furniture and call it nouveau.
No, actually, I think they actually have real new furniture
in there. But anyway, it was okay. I didn't mind it. And they
said for the location there's no subway around there was no way
in middle of nowhere. 62nd in New York, which is passed First
Avenue is almost in the drink I mean, you could look out the
window there was FDR Drive That's how far away it was. But
anyway, for you New Yorkers.
That's not exactly the happening hood to be that's for sure.
Right. And there wasn't any really notable restaurants in
the area although patsies the 1933 coal fired pizza place was
within walking distance.
Wait, isn't there isn't the What the hell is it? Isn't there a
Greek restaurant there? That's pretty famous on that side like
way
there might be I didn't see anything i was i I didn't do a
lot of research. I was I went to you know, when he went for a
couple of days because we had a meeting with the MarketWatch
people that I had to meet with my book agent. And then And then
so I stopped here and there and visited a few people. I just had
lunch with my editor at PC Magazine. And I expected this to
be the that when you go to New York you have to go to one good
restaurant. So I went to the cafe at country and country is a
restaurant that I've never been to before it's around the corner
from the PC Magazine offices. And it is a one star Michelin
restaurant. Okay was terrible.
There off the list. What was the name
is well that was the cafe at country wasn't the restaurant
itself, which was what got the star but it's beside the point.
It's the same kitchen when there's no
that's the one on the corner. Yeah. Oh man. I've been there. I
had had one of their they have hamburgers, right? They'd be
like a really gourmet. For lunch. Yeah, they
do. Yeah. Oh,
I totally agree. It's in the service was very iffy.
Ah, the service was absolutely ridiculous. It was terrible.
I had lunch with Ted leonsis, there. I was like, and it's like
his favourite place. Well, Ted
is crazy. So He's also a board member, John. Well, I know I've
known Ted longer than you have. And so I can say that he'll
think well, you know, divorce has you
know, you've known him longer than I have.
I've known Ted I've since nine. Teen 84
Okay, yeah, you'd beat me there a couple of years but not much.
Oh, So anyway, I knew him when he was doing a list magazine. Ah
I don't even know about that. What's list magazine? What was
that?
Busy with Ted has always been Ted leonsis is one of the more
interesting characters in the industry, because he's
considered to be one of the most creative people I've ever met. I
agree. And although, you know, I, I think he's almost like a,
you know, a Ferrari engine and a Volvo. I mean, it doesn't
necessarily,
how about a Ferrari engine in a Hummer? That may be a little
better analogy, or Ted there
that could be whatever the case is, he doesn't, you know, he's
just a lot of good ideas. And he executes only a very few of
them. But they always may do well, but did lists magazine was
a craziest idea. It essentially was a magazine, I think it came
out monthly, that did nothing more than list every software
product available on the market.
Interesting.
And it was actually quite successful. I think he sold it
to some suckers.
You know what his new thing is? You know, he's doing hell
besides. He's on our board. And what's the other thing he does
that clear, clear spring? The widget company? That's his? Is
he starting a new credit card? Oh, really? Yeah.
What's his special about? I
can't remember what it was. Oh, it had something to do with?
Well, obviously, it's all about the deals, right. That's what
all the credit cards are about. And I think it was what was like
customised Oh, it was like a white label. back end system.
That's what it was. So it's customised. You can have the,
obviously he showed me the Washington Nationals credit
card, and that's one of those deals.
But there was some capital Capital One, I'll give you a car
with anything you want on I know
that there was there was some other benefit to it. I'll ask
him. I can't remember. At the time. I was like, okay, cool.
But anyway, so Ted, I always thought Ted should have been the
CEO of AOL, because he was over there as the vice president. And
he started a lot of the there's little programmes and over there
that were all successful, but I don't know what it is that he
doesn't take a higher profile on a lot of things.
I think he doesn't like the politics, John. I think the you
know, the whole time Warner thing. I think that just really
turned him off. I just didn't enjoy it.
You know, he should learn to I mean, a lot of people don't
enjoy it at first, but it actually could be a lot of fun,
but he's doing other stuff you'd like like the stadium they have
for the for the team. He built that.
You know, right? He used you mentioned he owns a team. Yeah.
Isn't it the nationals that he owns the hockey team?
The hockey the Nationals is I think, I think the Nationals you
talk to a baseball team, but he only the hockey team.
But he built the stadium and you know, wherever it used to be,
like complete ghetto land in, in DC. And yeah, when he built the
stadium, they announced like a huge thriving economic
community. And he also did, he's, he's in he's in foreign
food to he finance some film about I'm gonna say China, and
he's worshipped over there, because it was he was about the
oppression of the people. God, I wish I remembered all this
because he tells the story really well. But he financed the
movie of course, you know, he lost while I mean, it was
intended to not make money. But now when he goes to China, it's
like he's the, you know, he's he gets
the red carpet. Yeah, he does as it were, yes, but red and boom,
the Red Chinese carpet as
he does. Anyway, how did we get to Ted I can't remember. Well,
we
I was talking about this shirt this counter trend that
witnessed the hotel he was somehow we got to Ted woods
because a country's while we got to Ted because you know, I ate
there and that was the way I killed my class. And that was
the biggest disappointment because like I said, I mean, I
did go to Patsy's and have a coal fired pizza and that was
actually good, but I was hoping to go to one one star restaurant
that had good food and I can't say the food was inedible
because it was actually the food was okay even though Landstuhl
enough who was eating it once before said that he did have
that hamburger you're talking about me hated it.
I didn't like it was lame. Bad bad been to really poor choice
have been?
Yeah, this is inexcusable for a restaurant that has this
reputation that place I have. I took a little movie of it with
my one of my handheld you know, a little Kodak cameras. And I'll
post the movie on the blog. Go walking out of the place. The
place was dumb was dead empty. It was embarrassing. They should
just close the place for lunch. Anyway, so I'm at this hotel and
I didn't have the newspapers in the lobby while you're waiting
for your car or whatever. And there was a financial time and
then there was a copy of big pile of the independent. I'm
thinking the independent What's that doing here in New York City
and it says in India is from the UK independent International
Edition. Interesting Yeah, that's what I thought because
this is like, to me is like the Herald Tribune. You know, we
Americans, we have a paper called The Herald Tribune, which
is a comedy or used to be a combination in New York Times
and The Washington Post it's published and again, is
distributed throughout Europe for Americans floating around.
But I've never seen the other side of this. I mean, usually,
it's would be the real paper wouldn't be like a special
edition for the US.
Financial Times, which is pretty much the same edition.
Yeah, that Financial Times looks like the same edition to me. But
this was a special edition, it was not as thick as the real
independent, but it was pretty, pretty big. And it had all the
stories in there. I'm looking through the same thing this
thing could take off, because it's interesting. A lot is
right. Yes, better and better American news, including a
breakout story about how there's found a secret plan to keep us
in Iraq forever. That was highlighted in this one edition,
which I'll blog back to I guess. And I was just like, said, Well,
this is an interesting turn of events, you know, that all of a
sudden, now we have to get you know, it's getting to the point
we're really going to turn to the British to get American
news. Oh, that's how bad it's gotten
was me. Yeah. Well, let me tell you. I don't know who owns the
independent who runs that?
I don't know. It's not a Murdoch paper. I know that. Oh,
no, it's definitely not. I like to find the Financial Times
really does it for me, Jonathan, you really should try and pick
that one up more regularly.
I you know, I shouldn't. The funny thing is, is that the
reason I got the trip to New York was MarketWatch. Had a they
decided to have a summit with all their columnists.
Oh, that's why some shitty Hotel.
Well, the reason for the rishi hotel was united. It's a funny
gag. But the reason for the city hotels because they they booked
late and nobody realises nowadays at all that New York is
full full. Of
course it is. It's a great place to go. It's full of your hands.
Yeah, it's full of Europeans and it's full of Europeans all year
round. And if you want to go visit New York, you have to book
months and months in advance and this was two maybe a month and a
half in advance which was too late.
And and what are people speaking there Russian
this place was let me think
because in London right now John, every hotel, every bar,
it's all Russian and the weed trade as as a trend while while
we're talking about trends and counter trends. The Chinese are
taking over the weed trade in
the UK. They're buying buy weed, you don't mean gardening now and
they're buying
up council. So basically like what is Council like Social
Security homes, council estates, a council estate homes, you
know, and they're just cranking it out, cranking it out. I mean,
the word is all over the place. The Chinese are taken over the
entire business. Now can I just say one other thing? They got
primo shit dude, rock on to China.
I don't know how they don't come over your house right now and
put you in cuffs.
Ted leonsis was cruising the Caribbean on his yacht a couple
of years ago poring over old newspapers when he noticed an
obituary for Iris Chang, author of The Rape of Nanking, the best
seller about the killing in 1937. A 300,000. Chinese by the
Japanese army.
Oh, that's what the movies about. Well, yeah, the Chinese
would love that guy. Well, he did it and he spoke good for
him. You know that you know that that whole episode in history
was was deplorable. And his skin has done nothing for the
Japanese reputation test for sure, John,
because I don't know about it. I will get I will get copies of
the DVD from Ted no problem. Give me a copy of like the city
I'll get copies. Sure. Tell me what what went on there.
But the Rape of Nanking that's when it's, that's pretty funny.
You don't know that? Well, essentially, what happens is the
Japanese occupied this part of Manchuria. And then they
essentially enslaved and killed and murdered and raped the women
and turn them into hookers. And they just they ravished the
place. In fact, the Japanese, there's been a lot of studies
about this, how the Japanese got so out of control, and how they
tend to get out of control in situations outside their own
country. There was a long series done by that that model who was
actually quite a good actress, that kind of a good looking
brunette woman with a who's done a lot of work and came about
thinking when they made Julie. No, no, no, we're talking about
an older model. That is fine, you know?
No, no older.
Well, hold on. I would cut I gotta know. She's as she mill.
Yeah. You gotta know for sure. MILFy sorry. Is she a mill for a
GILF?
Oh, she's a she's beautiful. I mean,
how old is she now?
I think she's about 45. Maybe, maybe 50.
She's an actress. Yeah, she's
a favourite Famous actress you know, this everyone knows about.
I mean, I'm sure half the listeners are going to come on,
come on.
What's the movie? What's the movie? She? Who else is in? Oh,
come on man
was not too bad aim. I can't think of a movie. She's been in
a lot of movies and she did a lot of TV work and she was in
the movie she was in the way. The movie I'm talking about is a
is a documentary that she narrated about the Japanese
culture. And it's a very good series. It's called Japan or
something like that. It was on PBS. And you can probably find
it that way. Let me click on the keyboard. Somebody pointed out
in Twitter, they sound like an old fart sitting here typing
away and is noisy old keyboard like
it's not live. It's Oh, yeah. Someone did send an email about
that, didn't they?
Yeah, you know, you sound like it's funny. I can just see him
hunched over the keyboard typing away like an old man at sea.
Which is exactly exactly what's happening.
It is. That's the irony of it. Dan, what was her name? It's
kind of embarrassing not to you know, the thing is, you know,
Pete That's the thing about marketing. If you're not if your
name's not constantly out there, Jane Seymour.
Oh, Jane Seymour. Yeah, she's a great actress.
Yeah, let's she was a model turned actress and John,
John. Jane Seymour. Excuse me, not 45 Okay, try closer to 60
Well, she looks 45
Sure. She's a good anyway.
Which is what
grandmother I'd like to do.
Grandpa.
God you're sick? Yes, I am.
So anyway, she did this thing on Japan. And it was a did anyone
give you ever see it on on its it was about five or six, maybe
more part series? I don't know Fortis 789 parts? Not sure. But
it was outstanding, because it really breaks down the the
history of Japan where it's headed and where it and it was
just, it was just fascinating. As you've never been to Japan
before, it's definitely something to watch. But the
thing that she did, she had, there's one section about the
rape of Nan king. And, and there was she discussed the fact that
the Japanese are concerned to some large extent about the fact
that and once they leave, if a group of them leave their own,
you know, enclave of, you know, like the island, and they go
someplace else, and they have to start running things in a
foreign environment. They become extremely brutal and weird. And
was like, you know, Klingons or something
really just kind of like the Kamikaze gene or something like
that. Well,
it's or some it's some other words, probably a more of a
samurai Ronin kind of gene or something there, you know, or
Toka. You know, it all stems back to the Tokugawa Shogun
eight, which was a period of time where the Japanese had to
learn to be expressionless because, you know, it gets it
was legal for as you know, I knew that people were in the
government's just to kill you on the spot if they didn't like the
way you looked at him. And anyway, so this seems to be some
sort of an issue with them when they leave, they think is some
sort of a cultural problem when they leave the country. They
think they can lord it over but they also have a superiority
complex with a and I guess they don't think much of the Chinese.
But anyway, the Chinese got really brutalised by them. And
it was a horrible one of the worst. I mean, I think that you
know, killed kind of close to a million people and maybe more
and just just, you know, like, butchered them. And so anybody
who would do a documentary on this, like Ted apparently did,
that would be adored by the Chinese who still hate the
Japanese for this. Yeah.
So you but you don't know what the title of it because I'm
looking at her at an IMDB dot.com. And I've got Oh, yeah.
Okay. Let me see How I Met Your Mother and know that it isn't a
blind dating
now. It would be it would be under the TV listing beach party
at the threshold of hell. Yeah, that's where I am.
Jane Seymour
was in Wedding Crashers. That was good. That was a good one.
Dr. Quinn, of course. What a career this woman's had. And
she's hot.
Yeah, and there's a picture of her icy wood next to her
daughter. She's prettier than her daughter.
Is it the absolute truth? No, no,
no. Hang on a second. Here it is. I mean, let me just get to
the Jane Seymour list. It would probably be under it's a Debbie
interesting was not here. Not an act as a reason. It's got to be
down at the bottom.
So it's old. It's like from the 80s or 90s it's it's pretty
old. Yeah, it's probably from the 80s. Thanks. It's got to be
way down, way down. Way down.
Keys to freedom now. Jack the Angel of Death
guide she's got a huge list.
Amazing, isn't it? Well, I guess that's what you're doing actress
man. She does good work. And she's got like, 18 kids.
Yeah, no, she's uh, that's she did it right? Yeah.
All right, so we can't find it. Well,
it's not here.
It's, I'm not seeing it either, as should I don't want to see
her television credits. Are you always sure she did it? Sure.
She's
the one. Oh, yeah.
Believe me. It's nothing you'd forget. Oh, wait a minute.
Here's a here's another these lists vs. 2000 80s. to click on
the 80s Oh, I see. It's just part of a
running dry. Is that what it's called? While we probably we
should move on at this
top. Yeah, whatever. But anyway, the point is, is that there's
you should look up the topic and catch up to it your your remiss
as part of the world history, I should know more about
particularly because I could certainly interrogate uncle Don
about some of that he was all over Japan.
Well, I'll tell you something you could. If you watch the de
leonsis piece, I'm guessing you'll probably write the right
up to speed. I'm gonna, I gotta just get that from him. And
you'll be all I'll get.
I'll get you a copy too. Yeah, okay, good.
So anyway, so that's the so anyway, so I'm looking at the
independent that was that I thought that was an interesting
trend. And now I'm thinking check. Does anyone get a
subscription to this? I mean, the news in there was just, you
know, stuff that they don't even print here, is it our news has
just gotten dreadful. Anyway, when I was in New York, I also
did two other things. I really jam when I go anywhere. It's
pretty funny.
You'd even call me back, I emailed you. And I said, Call me
if you have a second. You must have been really busy.
So I was pretty busy. So I visited both Fox Business and
got a complete tour. This is Chris with the MarketWatch
folks. And then the next day I got a car out to out to Jersey
and went and visited the CNBC studios.
Yeah. Right across the run across the bridge, right. Yeah.
And I got to meet all the people there one of the executive
producers brings me on every so often. And so she gave me a
complete tour I get to meet you know, I've got to meet you know,
former MarketWatch person Trish Regan who's just gorgeous and
then Courtney Reagan who was like really pretty she does a
little spot news and can tell you all the hostesses which are
and all the guys that do all the shows. And I got to compare the
Fox Business operation with the CNBC because they're kind of
competing with each other. And
let me guess, let me guess Fox far superior.
No force inferior. Really?
Oh, I thought we have all kinds of cool shit going on there.
They have a lot of cool stuff. But compared to what's going on,
it's I mean, it's like night and day. It's like, I wouldn't, you
know, they dropped I think 150 million or something into the
fox.
TV right into the studios and everything. Yeah.
You know, some huge amount of money. It's all digital. It's
really cool. It looks like a kitty car. Compared to like, you
know, this Lamborghini stuff. Yeah, I mean, the the CNBC thing
is, is probably three times bigger. It's, it's got different
energy, the energy is really amazing. It's just, it's just,
it's just, I don't see how Fox is gonna it's gonna be years and
years before Fox can catch up to these guys. And I also don't
think Fox has got the right idea how to do that kind of business
channel, to be honest about I think they're completely going
in the wrong direction in every which way.
Didn't Brian Williams come from CNBC?
Or that or MSNBC, but I think he came from MSNBC,
because he's not he does the nightly news now, doesn't he?
Because we get that over here.
Yeah, he used to do MSNBC news. And he was always I used to work
at MSNBC for a while. And when Soledad O'Brien was there, and
it was always, always obvious to me that Brian Williams was the
heir apparent to Tom Brokaw. Even though sometimes you can't
really tell with NBC. It's pretty obvious because they line
him up in a certain way. And I always thought Brian Williams
was outstanding, and except for the fact that he's got this
broken nose. That is annoying. I don't know why as well. You want
to hear his
story? Yeah.
So he must have been either at CNBC or maybe doing human
interest pieces for the nightly news. But he did a piece on a
cosmetic surgeon in New Jersey and Patricia was there and she
was asked to be a part of the piece. She had, I don't even
know it was her boob job. I don't know something she had
done. And Brian Williams was really hitting on her wall. Take
her out. Because she, the other day we're sitting in I'm
flipping through sky channels, you know, somewhere up around
the five hundreds, you know, we're all the new shit is as
Brian Williams on so, you know I hold it's the nightly news I'm
looking at she says, Oh, that's the guy that hit on me. Like
really? Yeah, he was he was courteous, but he was pushing
pretty hard.
courteous. I like that.
But yet yet firm. courteous.
Yeah, I'm sure he was firm. So anyway, so the, the No, Fox is
not going to. I mean, I did. I've only done one hit for them.
I did the Neil Cavuto show, I think a few weeks ago and
somehow Neil's got moved over there. And he's you know, he's
talented guys, but I don't they don't have numbers and I think
they don't have the right. Personally, I don't think
they're they're
well appointed to CNBC really have numbers. Oh,
CNBC is one of the most profitable broadcasting
operations in the world
profitable, but you know, what are the numbers? What are the
ratings? Right, you know, I don't know what the ratings are.
Man. It's just not it's not that high. Can't, you know, you know,
but it's a million I'd be very surprised.
No, it's not that hated. But it's the point is, is it's the
people who watch it. Yeah, of course it I mean, you have some
of the you know, biggest money people in the world that just
essentially have CNBC on just on
because they run it properly. You got that Squawk Box in the
morning? With that fat fuck, what's his name? Mark or
whatever.
I can't get up that early.
I used to watch it religiously. And it's great. Because, you
know, they do get all the CEOs on he's on a first name basis
with him. He's, you know, he punches him around. They're all
they are right on top of all of the fucking stories. I mean,
anything that's breaking, they've got the right people.
It's it's quite impressive. And that's what keeps people going.
That's why they keep it on at the office.
Yeah, no, they just keep it on 24/7 and tell you every time I
do a CNBC spot, everyone I know who's in the financial world
sends me an email and they
see it. Of course, it's all Hey, you were on yesterday,
it was pretty good. Good. You said, you know, I was on for
like, two minutes, you know, a minute and a half.
With Neil Cavuto talking about what let me guess Microsoft?
Well, with Kabuto was on it was actually on Fox because he's
moved over. But no, generally speaking, I would do the Erin
Burnett Show with Erin Burnett, that's done just before street
signs or whatever it's called just before that 12 o'clock at
the lunch. Yeah.
So they have a different crew over here in the UK. They also
have they have Squawk Box in the morning. And they have there's
some interesting personalities to do it here. Same format,
though. Same formula right on top of it really good watching.
Yeah, well, if you go to see their operation, you can see
why. I mean, they have I mean the number of people that are on
any given show, I mean, I was taken to into the control room
and they'll have like one person who just does the one just like
the Chiron person in charge of only the graphs that they show
and then there's a Chiron person in charge of all the names and
all the other movement. It's like you know, for each show,
there's probably five or six technicians doing behind the
scenes stuff besides the director and all the camera
people and everything was in between it's actually quite it
was I mean Fox has that same kind of layout but it's just
smaller everything is smaller their offices are you know less
interesting
is the same facilities where they had MSNBC
the CNBC NBC offices.
Oh, you mean the fox ones?
No, no, the ones across the river in Jersey CMD I don't
know. I
mean, I didn't never went to this in MSNBC buffets is when
they were out in the west east coast. I only worked on the West
Coast.
I don't know. All right. I thought it was the same, the
same facility.
I don't know. It might be it's, I'll tell you this is huge.
Cool. So that was educational. And you know, you have to go
over there once in a while and show your face so people say you
know, we need somebody for today's show. I think anybody
and then somebody says I divorced
Rajon Can I can I tell you something? Because like, you
know, because I know you're looking for money, like always
right? You know, you're just like me, you're scrounging
around. We're getting gigs. We're doing shit. Check this
out, man. You got to get yourself an ISDN set. You could
call into so many shows. You could just sit at home you could
call into all these shows.
When I finished my when I finished my book about American
depressions then I'll need it because
then you know, because I talked about on the daily source code.
I talked about it. I had this thing. I got like three radio
stations calling me saying hey, can we can we talk to you next
Tuesday morning or whatever. And, you know,
the problem is I'm not just I'm actually not generally speaking
of the ill that I want to get on the air unless I have something
to sell.
Well, I'm sorry. I didn't get pissed off at me. No, I'm
just saying I don't have anything to sell because you've
been hounded me to get ISDN and Allah but I don't
want the ISDN for us. I don't give a shit. What else do you do
with it? I'm just trying to think of ways that you can you
know, I'm like maybe it's too expensive.
It is too expensive. That's the problem itself, John, and I
won't pay for itself. That's the point. Let
me tell you BT man. So I hooked up this line, right? I got a
business line. And they called me on my home line and said, Do
you want a free ad in the Yellow Pages? I said, No. This thing go
at least four times a day. This and it's an auto answer, right?
Because it's plugged into the into the codec. So it
automatically hands on. What the hell are they testing the line
and then click it'll it'll go on and you know, it's routed
through the mixer, and I'll hear me out with someone. Hello.
Hello. And open up the microphone like Yeah. And, like,
we want to offer you and it's like solicitations they gave my
number away immediately.
Oh, so you're getting a bunch of spam? Yes. ISDN. Spam. Wow,
that's weird. Of course.
Yeah, I guess it is ISDN spam. Well, you just I wonder if it
calls if it just registers a regular number.
It is a regular number when you look at it. Yeah. Anyway, yeah,
yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, suppose I have something to
sell. I'll do it. I mean, I'm just not going to. I definitely
don't want to get a bunch of guys calling me left and right.
So how does that work? So you you go with your agent and you
What do you go to publishers and you pitch the idea?
Oh, no, the way Well, it depends. I mean, my book and
depression I'm going to self publish this as I went to see
him about another project I'm working on with Gina Smith. And
me about it. I'll tell ya shows we get shows we have it a little
more hammered down because it didn't we're fine tuning the
retouching with Gina. Together? No, no, I'm pitching by myself.
Gee, but you know, Jean has worked with Brockman before this
John Brockman, the one of the I actually worked work for him
once. But Brockman is like does all these, you know, high end
products that get big money. And she did that Wozniak book was
through him and some other projects, I guess. So she knows
who she is. And it's not an issue. I just wanted to sit in
his office and chat for a while anyway, which is what you have,
and you just sit
there and you gotta say, give me a goddamn contract already. I'm
not gonna leave.
And so you know, so I essentially the way it works,
though, generally speaking, is depending on the agent you work
with, and all agents have a slightly different process. But
for the most part, it goes like this, you come up with an idea,
and people out there want to sell books, this is how you do
it. First, you got to find an agent, which is not easy, but
you come up with a
name in the phonebook under L for lefty, Lefty Schwartz,
L for literary agent. Anyway, so you come up with an idea and you
write a proposal, and it's all everything is done based on
this, generally speaking, and the proposal dependent proposals
are interesting, because they're trendy, they they sometimes they
want long proposals, and everybody wants a long proposal
that goes on forever 15 pages, or they want short proposals.
Nobody wants a long proposal, they want two page proposals,
okay, whatever, like Hollywood. Yeah, it just goes back and
forth, and back and forth. If you don't have an agent, you
don't know what the trend is for the day, you know how it's three
pages. Exactly. So anyway, so you write the thing up, and
usually the eight depending on the agency, but many of them
like to, you know, they go back and you go back and forth to the
agent, with the proposal find honing it, and then the agent
presents it to a publisher that usually a pal, because they all
have, you know, every agent, that's which, which is just kind
of interesting to me. Every agent has his own channels.
They're all and they're all different. So if you went to
agent a, they would have channels into maybe, let's say,
two or three, like maybe 20 editors total from 10 different
publishing houses. If you went to agent B, they'd have a whole
different group that they would be pitching.
And then it's the same with all agents. Oh, that's what you get
an agent. Yeah, they have their friends. It's all their buddies,
the
Rolodex.
And so you know, and if they've been making money for the for
the publisher, then that you know, their buddies are, you
know, happy to see him. So you know what you find the agent
that's got a conduit you're looking for so in other words,
you wouldn't take a fiction book and give it to somebody who does
nonfiction because no matter how good of an agent they are, they
don't have any, there's no channels. So finding the right
agent is a big deal. And anyway, so then they take it in and then
a couple of things can happen in the olden days you used to have
these book auctions which are pretty cool because then they'd
run up the price between you'd get two or three people together
that would all want it and then they argue amongst themselves
and give you way too much money. And but nowadays, it just, you
know, do a deal and it's over and then you anyway, so then you
do a book, generally speaking that is not the same book as the
one in the proposal and They take the book that you gave him
and print something that's not what you gave him. And then
outcomes.
Excellent. And how long is that process stick,
that the process takes too long. The process probably takes a
good nine months oh man, for and it's a you know and the way you
get paid generally
you get an advance, you get
what depends on the obey, if it's if it's a big advance, you
get it in three, in three payments you usually get if it's
a big advance, you can change you can Did you can be done in
any way you can make them agree to, which is the key. And I
always tell people, you know, you gotta be careful about the
main thing that that authors have to worry about is the dummy
contract. And dummy contracts are in fact, you know, me via we
have a dummy contractor that I've heard people bitch about.
And because everybody has a dummy contract, because if you
are going to hire somebody, and they're going to sign this
thing, fine. But, but in business, it's called the dummy
contracting, and that's what they call it. And because you're
a dummy, if you sign it, the idea is, of course, you change
what you want to change, and then they usually agree to it.
And unless you're a dummy, and there's an agent, by the way,
who did a lot of tech books, who I was talking to one of my
publisher, friends, he says they love this agent, and they take
anything and keep because he would actually encourage his
writers to sign the dummy contract. Cool. Yeah, what a
nice guy. Anyway, so you get this dummy contract, and then
you just change it to wherever you want. But typically, with a
big advance, you'll get 1/3 right away. And of the money
here, here's your money. And by the way, and if you don't turn
in the book, or anything, did, they have a hard time getting
that money back, so they have to you if you don't have a track
record, you know, they are very reluctant to do give you a lot
of money up front, because they're, I've you know,
situations do occur where you, the book isn't cancelled, or, or
you can't do it, or they or the project change, or the editor
quit. I mean, there's a million possibilities, and you end up
with this money. And they really don't, it's almost impossible to
get it back. Unless you go back to that publisher and have to do
another book deal with them, then that money is still
somewhere on the books. And it's like you get screwed, right, you
get you get money goes away, it gets recouped. It's just like
the record business. Right. And so anyway, so you get a third
upfront, and then when you deliver the manuscript
officially, even though you might be doling it out in pieces
of when the thing is finished, you get another third. And then
when it finally hits the street, you get the last third. In
smaller advances, you tend to get half of it right away. And
then when the book is delivered to get the other half, and then
you're done,
I should send you the contract that just sent over Patricia's
doing, she wrote a Dutch version of heatwave. And she's going to
do it do a duet with this guy's putting it on his album on our
on a CD, I should say. And I should send it over because you
really laugh when you see that. First of all, it's like 10%
versus 10% of the song which in itself is already 112 of the of
the CD. And then it's and that's over PPD over retail. So it's
really 5% of the 12 of the 112. And then it's after deduction of
like 20% for mechanical reproduction. But if it's, if
it's for download,
I'd love to see this kind of you know, we I have to say this and
this is kind of obscure, but we collect contrast, my wife has
become kind of so many lawyers she's really good at we don't
even use lawyers that often unless it gets really
complicated.
You just pull something out of the archives and just use that.
Well, we have all this
language and in fact, when I did the deal with me video, you
know, working with Bobby Garcia, I mean, we pulled a lot of
contract lengths.
You signed the fucking dummy contract. John, what are you
talking about? I saw that. You know what I'll send you I'll
send you the how about the MTV Adam Korea Settlement Agreement?
Yeah, I'd like that too. I mean, we have a collection of these
things and we use them, we actually developed a force
majeure. Some force majeure language which you can look up
for speaking engagements, because we when I started doing
a lot of public speaking through agents, through the speaking
bureaus, speaking bureaus,
I don't want to go hunting figure out some kind of force
majeure. So I can get out of it.
Well, no, you have to worry about that. That's the problem.
And but none of the speaker's bureau is used it in their
contract language. And we actually developed a contract
based on the with the basic template was from the Washington
speaker's bureau, and then we modified it and because they had
a beautiful contract, and then we modified it, and then we
added this force majeure thing and now we present it to other
agents. This is like the contract we like to use, and
they look at it and They all say, Wow, this is a great idea,
we'd have to put this in our contract.
I can't wait to meet your wife, man. Maybe I should be doing the
show with her.
She's more interesting. So anyway, but anyway, the thing
is, is a contract is are in some ways, almost like folklore,
because they get passed around and rewritten and it gets to the
point where you look at them, you can look at a contract, in
effect, the contract I did originally with CBS, when it was
CBS MarketWatch before it became Dow Jones, we had to really
spend a lot of time on it, because it was a really crappy
contract. It was written for broadcasters, not writers,
right. And I've seen this before where somebody you know, comes
in and they say, we use this and they use this, you know, wrong
contract. And we actually probably helped them get their
contract straightened out. So it's right, for the you know,
for the right purposes. But you can look at contracts really
quickly and say, this is written by somebody that doesn't know
what they're doing. And the typical giveaway, and I don't
want to beat this to death. But the typical giveaway for a
crappy contract writer is that the language is very legalese.
And really complicated when a good contract is simple to read
and understand.
So this morphs perfectly into the next topic, which is the
contract known as the Lisbon Treaty in Europe. Okay, are you
familiar with this? Nope. Okay. You will recall in 2005, there
was a European Constitution poured, put forth to all 27
member states, and two countries voted it down in a referendum.
Do you recall which two countries?
Well, I don't know. It'd be Norway and Switzerland?
No, France and the Netherlands? Oh, right. Right. This
is the one Yeah, yeah. No, I'm thinking Norway and Switzerland
didn't even get involved in this. They just said no. But you
right, where those are. And this became the big controversy. This
was a news for like, months on end when these when they you
know, especially the French, you know, they're gonna let's do
want to make the EU the EU let these guys sign off on this. And
now we vote against it.
Exactly. So, you know, so I didn't pay much attention to it
in 2005. My wife had, you know what she was ill. And so, you
know, I was paying attention to other things. And also, I was in
between countries I couldn't even read I think we just moved
here. I couldn't really even vote on it. I don't think I was
kind of like an illegal status for a while there. And so now
this thing crops up called the Lisbon Treaty. And I didn't pay
any attention to it. Until you know, all this stuff starts
surfacing. And of course, the my audience known as the
chuckleheads, they start sending me all these links about
Ireland, like Ireland is the only country that can now save
Europe from you know, the evil politicians in Brussels. You
know, me so Right,
right. Right. This has been coming up over the last week or
so. Okay.
Yes, exactly. And I'll tell you why. Because June 12, which is
what is that? Five days, five days from now. That's when
Ireland is the only country in the only state in the union to
hold a referendum on this. And of course, all 27 states have to
say yes to this Lisbon Treaty. So I got interested in it. And
I'm like, I'm not gonna go read this fucking Lisbon Treaty. And
so, you know, we discussed this last week, I think, you know,
the everything in Europe is published, but it's published
this raw form, there's rarely a translation for the common man.
So it's a real struggle, but it's in any 27 language, or more
than that, like 30 languages, everything's translated, they
spend a billion euros a year on translations alone. But it's
great. So I'm like, let me go to the reader Lisbon Treaty, and
I'm looking at this thing, John, like, what is this? And it's all
all it is, is? What would you call it? References to this
original Constitution? Like, so it would say,
Well, wait, how big is this document?
Like 70 pages? Okay. Just, it's like a contract. It really is.
And it's exactly like a contract because what the Lisbon Treaty
is, it says, okay, in reference to, you know, the original
document, the original Constitution, change all words,
like ECU, which used to be Yeah, that was the European Currency
Unit, change that to Europe. So, you know, that means basically,
this document is that document with these changes. And the most
important change, of course, was everywhere you reference in that
original document to the word constitution. We now replace
that with Lisbon Treaty. And the reason, you know, of course,
this is what the conspiracy theorists say is, and in fact,
Angela Merkel was heard saying this, by not calling it a
constitution, the member states had no obligation legally or
morally to call a referendum on it. So hey, it's not a
constitution guys. It's a treaty, but the treaty is just a
it's just a legal document of search and replace. So then I go
and read the The Constitution and like what in the
Constitution in itself has referenced his two protocol
documents. So, you know, people send me some links and stuff and
I'm looking at is like, the right to freedom, you know, some
of the basic human rights which are now you know, I wish I
presumed we're going to be meant only for, you know, for the for
the entire union. And it's like, well, you know, you cannot be
incarcerated, you know, without, without just cause unless you
have a transmittable disease you are an alcoholic, a drug addict
or a vagrant? Mike, that's going to be a fucking constitution, or
like, wow, like the death penalty you cannot be put to
death. Unless you try to escape or if you are running away from
a legal arrest, you know, then then you being accidentally or
on purposely killed would not be seen as, as a violation of the
Constitution. So I'm like, I'm like tripping out over this. I'm
like, This is amazing shit. And now I understand why Ireland is
such a big deal. So you know, I'm doing this radio show in
Holland.
But wait, you get you got to explain why Ireland is such a
big deal. I
did explain because they they're the only country that has a
referendum in every single every other country. This is now being
ratified. So last week, it was ratified in the Netherlands,
which means that the the government basically has a
little debate, and then it's like, okay, that was nice
opposition, guys. Thanks for speaking up. And I was ratified.
So now the Lisbon Treaty is put into law, and the only country
that has a referendum is Ireland. And if they say no,
then it's off the table for everybody.
Oh, so then I hope they say no.
Well, so anyway, so I want to investigate. And so I'm doing
this radio show. And I say, you know, call up the call someone
up call someone who's in this debate. And so I get the leader
of the one of the Democratic parties. And, and I asked him
these questions. I said, What the hell is this? He's like, you
know, honestly, I have no idea what you're talking about, like,
Well, have you read this thing? He said, it's very hard to read,
isn't it? Like, yeah, hell yeah. Is it constitution is once you
make it simple, like, you know, like the American constitution.
So he says, Okay, I will ask this question to the, to the
Minister of Foreign Affairs in, in Parliament today. And dude,
so I'm watching this, and I'm taping it. And he actually says,
you know, Adam curry asked me this morning. He's like, even a
step further. He says, you know, this morning, I was on the
arrow, classic rock, and the Adam curry asked me these
questions, and you know, and I really
didn't know how to just fallen on the floor. I had a
boner from here to Tokyo. And, and then he takes it one step
further, he says to the actually not the minister, but the the
Secretary of Foreign Affairs, he says, so I understand, Mr.
Secretary, that you're going to appear on the show tomorrow. So
why don't you rehearse your answer? Now, while before you go
and talk to Mr. Curry about it? I'm
like, Man, this is cool.
But anyway, so you know, it turns out that there is, what
they've done, is they've taken the rain, so across all of
Europe, the ranges from you know, you cannot be killed under
any circumstances to this very broad. Well, if you try to run
away while we're trying to arrest you, and we kill you,
then you know, that's not illegal, that would not
constitute a violation of your, of your basic human rights
according to the Constitution. And each individual country gets
to implement the version they want. That's how it's gonna
work. So anyway, it's very suspicious, no one understands
what the hell is in the document. It's unreadable. And I
think the reason why the Dutch and the French said No, three
years ago is because they, you know, no one read it. They just
were pissed off about the euro, and they weren't happy. And it's
like, you guys want something? Screw you. We're gonna say no.
So anyway, this is now bubbling up, you know, and there's a lot
of posting about it on the internet and doesn't you know,
it's a it's a big campaign, you can see it happening. And the
numbers according to the Financial Times has shifted
dramatically where the beginning of the week, they expected 41%
to say yes, 35% to say no, and now they're expecting 35% to say
yes and 30% to say no. And it's, it's pretty fundamentally you
know, it is it's it is a constitution is it's fascinating
to watch.
Okay, so I while you were talking about that, which is
interesting. I just did this, as an aside is the glue callback
here. Using again, Twitter, the real Dvorak, I just typed in
Does anyone remember Jane Seymour series on PBS in Japan,
and the date and the name and I know Tony course, Twitter, I got
22,000 people, you know that. So it's like, you know, there's a
bunch of geniuses. So J. J. J. J Trosper. says it was called
Japan and it was done in 1988. Just playing Japan.
You know, I'm so happy that you took me out of my European
Time. Sorry, I just, yeah, well, this was kind of Europeans.
Jason was from England. Let me say back to that. I'm sorry. But
back to that topic. All right.
It's boring. Most people that's the problem most people think is
boring. They don't think about it. They don't think that you
know that they could, you know, this shit life
always surprised that he's gotten this far to be honest
about it. If anyone you know, if you've anyone who's known me,
since the EU was first formulated as knowing I've been,
you know, sceptical, because of stuff like this. And I still
don't understand how the French and the Germans can ever agreed
anything at that level. I mean, they're already telling the
French how to make cheese.
Meanwhile, the Germans just passed the National Law, that
now by law, law enforcement officials can monitor and invade
your computer via the internet, and they can hang up covert
cameras in your house.
Just for no good reason. Now you got to have a reason. Let's use
your doesn't say you have to have a reason or they just feel
like
I'm my, my German is not good enough to read the actual lie I
have. Maybe I could find an English version of it, I'll find
out.
Well, let me ask my Twitter group, if somebody can translate
on the spot. While you're doing, I
got one for your Twitter group. This is cool. So I'm nosing
around, there's a new law going into effect. Now, of course,
this is not something that they can choose on a national level
in Europe. But this is a European law. It's something
that we've had in America for as long as I can remember, actually
only the of course, now with the exchange rates, it's a little
skewed. You may no longer transport more than 10,000 euros
in cash, or in other, you know, like traveler's checks or
anything like that, in or out of the European Union without
declaring it.
And then they give me this again, because this is the this
has always been the case with the US.
Yeah. So you know, this is, what they're saying is this is for
two reasons, you know, for money laundering, and financing of
terrorism, of course, you can no longer enter or leave the
European Union with more than 10,000 euros in cash or other,
you know, faceless, nameless cash equivalents without
registering it. And now it's like, alright, well,
obviously, you just can't you just do a money transfer?
Oh, yeah. Have you ever heard of Swift?
So I'm thinking, Yeah, well, yeah,
Swift is, you know, the CIA taps into Swift.
The wells, the money still big gets moved? Yeah. But you
know, it's like, you have to declare it, you know, it's what
you do with your money should be your business, unless you're
doing illegal activity. But anyway, so that's beyond the
point. Because here's, here's what popped up. And this is a
story that's been around for a while as well. So they don't
have that at the airports. They now have money sniffing dogs,
literally, the Donald and interesting,
you know, because I, I'm a big fan of these dogs, by the way,
and I'm always every time I see when I asked the guy what kind
of a dog it is. I say, is it a bomb dog? I know there's bomb
dogs. There's fruit dogs, you know, looking for fruit? They
they're all over to Hawaii. And because they don't want you're
bringing fruit to Hawaii. And there's his bomb dogs, two dogs
and drug dogs. I did not know there was the money dog.
Oh, you still there?
Yeah, barely. Okay, sorry.
Yeah, so they have money, money sniffing dogs. Wow, that's cool.
But now, so what pops up on the radar? Up pops on the radar,
this story, which is pretty interesting, because you can
kind of prove it. That, you know, obviously, with this new
law going into effect, that's not the most effective way to
try to track money or to see how much money you've got to
apparently, now in as far as I can tell the in the lower
denomination notes. The rumour is that there is an RFID chip
implanted in the Euro bill in the currency. And you can check
this, this is great. You put either a five a 10, or a 20 euro
note into the microwave, and you turn it on and within like a
second, you'll hear a pop, and there'll be a little hole right
off to the centre of the paper. And that's supposed to be the
chip that explodes because of the microwaves. You know, I
find this to be a folklore thing. And I suspect that the
thing exploding may be some sort of metallic ink. Well, and I'll
tell you why. Because I don't think you can make an RFID chip
that small.
No, man this is this is what I've been looking into. They're
getting it down to like 50 microns is outrageous. Really.
Yeah. Because it has it doesn't need a power source. You know,
it's activated the way the RFID chip works, you know it it's
it's passive. Yeah, you activate it with like a magnet magnetic
field and then yeah, thank you with induction and then it sends
back its identifier,
but ya know, the induction triggers to the circuit and it
turns it on. And essentially, and then it says, Hi, I'm here.
Here's my name then Right? Yeah, there's my number, whatever,
right? But so I've done this, I've done this with all
different notes, you put it in the in, you put in the
microwave, and then it pops. Now, I've asked the guy from the
RFID business platform, I have a call into the Minister of
Finance, because now I've got a radio show, I can get all these
fuckers on the phones pretty funny. And I said, you know, so
what's the deal? And so the RFID platform guy says, I don't
really know, and I've heard this too, but, you know, I hear this
little piece of wire in there that is seen, you know, for
counterfeit purposes. And I'm like, okay, so I go to the, you
know, to the the European Union money website, and it says,
here's the five ways that we've baked into the currency. You
have for you to able identify if it's authentic or not, none of
which is talking about some kind of wire that's in there. You
know, there's and it's not anywhere near anything that
looks metallic and it's popped with a little hole, John, I'm
Cat kitten, man, right? In the same spot, and every single bill
Hmm. You know, I've been I've been looking into this RFID
shit, man, that's pretty awesome. It's an everything.
It's in your clothes. It's in your like your jeans. It's, you
know, these chips are absolutely everywhere. And they now and
they're making them. I think you can get them commercially. You
could even buy them yourself for like, they're like 0.4
millimetres, which is already pretty small. But yeah, they're
trying to now they're, I understand the next level
they're trying to go below is 50 microns. I have no idea how big
that is. But it sounds like you want to see it?
No. And then the thing is, how much data can it hold? I mean,
it's just an identifier can't really have any information. You
can't you
can't rewrite them. And of course, the problem is, is
always the antenna. You know, the the chip is one thing, but
if you want to have any kind of reach at the antenna has to be a
certain dimensions. These higher frequencies are the most
desired. It's fascinating technology, and really is, you
know, but also the just the idea of you know, so there is this
data of all this stuff that is just not really broadcasting,
but it's accessible.
So you cook and all your money.
I cooked about eight bills. Yeah.
Well, now Now, having said that, of course, I'm sure surprises
are not over there knocking on your door. What would prevent
somebody who's of you know, who was a criminal that wanted to
smuggle out, you know, $100,000 in a money belt, just from
cooking all his money in advance of the of the induction? Do
whatever the receiver has
happened? Well, I mean, if you really want to smuggle out a
significant amount of money, you know, you're gonna be popping a
lot of individual bills. It's not really simple. And, you
know, by itself as it is pretty suspicious looking. I haven't
tried to spend it yet but you know, there's a hole in the
bill.
Oh, how big is the hole? It's just a little pinhole though,
right? No, no, it's
like a little, I'd say about the size of an eraser on a pencil.
Well, you know, it probably not. You mentioned the guy did say it
was about counterfeiting. I'm sure it might be actually about
counterfeiting
here. But then why wouldn't they list that as one of the ways to
see if it's
because they don't want a bunch of people like you out there
smoking the bill, just as a joke? Yeah, but
why not? It's my money if I want to burn it in the air, or if I
want to burn it in my microwave, that's up to me.
Or maybe they just don't want people knowing what you know
that, you know, because you could probably counterfeit that
chip. Just as easy as you could the rest of the crop on that.
Yeah, I'm sure it's not encrypted or anything like that.
I mean, I'm just saying it would make sense. You know, now you
could just when you're walking through customs, you know, the
sensor could go oh, well, that's quite a lot of, you know, 20
pound note and 20 Euro pound notes you have there, sir. You
know. BBB BBB BBB? I'm sure someone out there has dialled in
on it. Yeah, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna ask the Minister of
Finance. He's not the best I can do.
Both. I'll tell you. You're right. You're up there. Now. I
feel like a loser.
No Man's from Holland. Dude. No one cares. Holland is below
Ireland.
Have you checked bills from other countries because every
country prints their own euros.
There's actually I haven't tried this yet. Because I don't think
I have any the new $20 bills apparently have the same
characteristics.
You got a 20? Euro bill from
England? No, no. The
$20 bill, the new $20 bills.
The $20. US Bill. Yeah, yeah. The purple ones. The new ng con.
Yeah, yeah.
There's this is just Google it man. Google $20 Bill RFID. Yes.
Your Google I
have. I have a wallet from I've actually plugged this I think on
my PC mag calm some time ago. But there's a guy down in
Southern California who makes these really nice wallets that
have Have the Faraday cage built into them?
Oh, yeah. So that the canta nothing penetrates it. Right?
Yeah, I've seen those online. You go check this out. Here's a
picture. There's a picture to your now of the $20. Bills.
prison planet. Holy cow, this guy cooked these bills. Yeah.
RFID tags and new US notes explode when you try to
microwave them to say those are the big you got jet. Jackson's
head is blown off. And
it's in the same spot every single time. Yeah.
This is interesting.
And that's about the same spot where it's embedded in the in
the Euro bills.
Yeah, man, you can blog this? Yeah, got a lot of stuff to blog
on there. I won't get to half of it. That's why
I don't send you this shit, man. Because I know you're gonna blog
that before we talk about and take all the glory.
How many bills is this guy did the picture that's funny here,
which for people aren't watching this, but it's on prison planet,
you can probably look it up.
It's looked like he's probably fried about 15. Looks like
he's got like 12345 times 420 20 bills, plus two more 20 to be
taken. How many bills do you have to blow up before you get a
clue? Just like this.
Check this out. He says I want to share an event with you that
we're experiencing this evening, you gotta read this story. Dave
had over $1,000 in his back pocket in his wallet, new 20s
where the lion's share of the bills in his wallet, we walk
into a truckstop travel Plaza. And they have those electronic
monitors that are supposed to say if you were stealing
something, but through every monitor, Dave set it off. He did
not. He did not have anything to purchase in his hands or
pockets, after numerous times is saying these off of person
approach day with a one to swipe in. Anyway, so that's why the
guy started trying, you know, Fridays bills to see if if there
was something in there, too. If he's setting off, you know,
security gates.
Well, I'm gonna have to get into this minute to talk to my wallet
making buddy.
So apparently had Tachi because you know people have been
sending me stuff about this, but how Tachi developed some of this
technology in like 2000. And I think it's Phillips and Phillips
and one other company that are actually that are supposedly
supplying chips that came that are being put into paper. I
don't know if it's true, man. And you know, and all right, but
it's just if it's true, it's okay. But we should know about
it
was obvious. I mean, these bills were blowing up for no good
reason. I mean, people will see this link later.
Oh, man, scroll down.
Nigel. I was saying, Oh, man.
Oh, there's There you go. There's see there's the 10 euro
note. See where it's popped?
Yeah, that's a little hole. That's a lot smaller than the mu
s one we the whole head of Jackson gets blown on us because
the I think the US paper burns quicker.
Like could be. I guess it thinks catching on fire. Yeah, that's
what it looks like.
It just looks I mean, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I mean,
it's just like, I guess you could take it into the
are you gonna put us or are you gonna put a 20 in your
microphone, microwave?
Do you want to hear something funny? I don't have a microwave.
You don't believe in him? No, it's not that I don't believe in
him. I just I don't see the purpose of him. I mean, you can
really see i All I do is reheat stuff. And you know, I could do
that in a million different ways. It's more practical. I
like to cook over flames. Yeah, you know, I'm not a big fan of
microwave cooking. I think it makes food tough. I think as a
DJ only thing that I ever used one for when I did have one was
to boil water for tea, and I got a tea pot kettle, it's just as
fast.
We only use it for we don't cook in it. We only use I think most
people probably just use it for reheating.
And some people use it for thawing. And I find that there's
better ways to thought as a matter of fact, don't
use upper thigh. Now just so it's just reheats or may be
here's the things I might do in the microwave. I might do a
potato in the microwave. And if I want to get one going quick or
I do happen to like if I'm if I'll take a corn on the cob. And
so I'll put butter around the the ear of corn, put a little
bit of sugar on it, roll it up in wax paper and then pop it in
the microwave
that's an eye roller
it tastes really good.
I'm sure it does mozzies let it give it some more heat and see
what happens if it needed to blow up. But no I don't I don't
you know don't have one in the house. So in fact I think in
both houses I got another house obviously in Washington and I
think we had one for a while and then I think we got rid of I
mean it's just just not a device I have much use light and own
and they're ugly. They they're just horrible looking things so
they are
I agree. Anyway quite handy when you want to See if there's RFID
chips embedded in your money?
Well, I don't think there's a question. There's no question
that that RFID chips are embedded. I think it is odd that
no one's talked about it, except on this show.
Well, if you look around, you'll see that people have been doing
this since 2003. They've been talking about it, it's like, you
know, it's one of these things that you see go in cycles,
because you know, you do the research and Googling around.
And even though it's kind of hard, Google doesn't do database
searches very well, or the results are kind of hard to
organise. But you'll see 2003 There's kind of a little little
blip there. And then around 2006 have popped up again, and then
it just died away, you know, something else happened, I
guess.
We as people don't care.
That's right, let's just ride this wave until people don't
care again.
So the hot news over here now they think about it is the Fast
Company article on China, which is a topic that we discussed
months ago, about how China's you know, taking stealing, or
getting or the calm making arrangements to get all this
stuff out to Africa, right? Yeah. So that's the business
talk shows everybody's are all over this article, which is
like, man, we should have known this before. And we've got you I
should have written I guess, but you know, what it was he
said, You were gonna write about it. And Mark It was you said it
was gonna make a great column you, I think you've said that
when we talked about it.
It's too late now. But the thing I think they overlooked was the
one aspect which is the most interesting, which is the fact
that they do these deals, where they get a free ride in terms of
of taxes, in taxes and tariffs. And they bring all their stuff
over here, they never finished the projects that they promised.
And then they sell everything, like, you know, they love to do.
And they put every little vendor out of business because they
have to pay customs and no and the Chinese don't. And that's
seems to be more interesting than the fact that the Chinese
are taking all the all the resources out of Africa, people
have been, you know, taking resources out of Africa, you
know, forever. It's not like, you know, it's that's what so is
there he has what is there for and the Chinese probably need
more resources than anybody else right now. And at least there's
a supply. I mean, otherwise, of prices of everything, it'd be
through the ceiling.
On like, $140 oil.
Yeah, the oil thing is, so I would listen to the, you know,
it's funny, because I talked to all these people about this oil
thing. So I was in it was actually when I was in New York.
I turned on C span. And they had the entire hearing about the oil
situation with with what's his name? George Soros. And this
guy. Let's see, his last name is green burger. Kenneth, I think
green burger, you can look that up. Or Michael, Michael or KEN I
think is Michael Green Moses, where
Soros said it's all speculators who are driving the price up.
It's the insurance companies who are rolling over month to month.
Yep, which is quotes we've talked about. And because it's
pretty obvious, that's what's going on. But anyway, this
Greenberger guy that was actually a lot more interesting
than he used to be one of these regulators in the government, I
guess, to around the year 2000 When they quit or retired or
whatever. And, and he said something interesting that
nobody seems to have picked up on. He says that there was a law
that was passed sometime around in the late 80s, or wherever it
was just before the energy first energy crisis that allowed it
was called the the called the Enron. The Enron bill or
something, said there's a he has a name for a night, but
unfortunately, I didn't write it down. Like I said, I didn't
write anything down. But it's some it was the thing that
benefited Enron, it was kind of snuck into some other bill. And
it allowed people to trade, you know, energy in a certain way.
And it was it was called it was called the Enron loophole. And
it made Enron what it was, which was an energy trading company.
And so then they closed a loophole. But according to him,
they left a loophole open for this sort of speculation that's
going on now with with oil and he says that's the only Lula's
unregulated speculation. And he blames mostly the Dubai people
because there's a Dubai trading desk, and of London does a group
in London and those are the guys doing all the all the heavy
lifting in this. And then he named two other American
companies, Goldman Sachs, and and what's the other one?
Goldman Sachs and Amen bears? No, it wasn't lame, and it was
the it was one of the ones that seemed to be unscathed, think
about it. But anyway, these two American you know, investment
bankers they said Morgan Stanley, he said he said Goldman
Sachs and Morgan Stanley are in up to their ears in the in this
oil scam. So when he says, go ahead, and until they changed
the law, were the words they have to you know, get these guys
back under regulation because they're speculating with you
know, essentially There's no money. I mean, they're just
essentially dry running this thing up, like, like crazy. So
what I understand is that it's gotten so out of control, that
there's actually tankers off the coast of have multiple
countries, including the US filled with oil just waiting to
unload. You know, the minute the minute they're at the, at the
peak of the game, you know, so, at certain point, everyone's
going to flip around and start selling, right? Yeah, they have
to. So there's apparently there's even a shortage of
tanker space right now, because these tankers are just at
anchor, waiting to rush into a port to offload.
Well, you know, this is the problem. And everybody knows
that there's some, you know, 80 billion barrels a day, some huge
number of oil that's actually coming out of the ground and has
to go someplace, and it has to go through the system and the
American has, in particular, I think we've dropped off 4% 5% of
them, it just doesn't sound like much, but it's
just like, you know, like 300,000 barrels a day or
something.
It's millions of barrels of the overall dead, you know, we're
not soaking up anymore, because we just people are, you know, I
noticed this when I commute to San Francisco. It's like, wow,
this is the way it ought to be. There's there's not as crowded
on
so yeah, no one's working. There's no jobs. Everyone's not
driving.
Buses, America. Fuck yeah. Here to save the motherfucking day.
Yeah.
Okay, so people, by the way, complain when you sing as they
should. So you've never heard me sing, then they really complain.
So So yeah, there's a problem. And so they I'm sure that all
these tanks had all the refiners and everything must be filled to
the brim. And you know, we can't this can't go on much longer
because at some point you have oil starts just being dumped on
the on the dirt in our something because you can't you know, it's
it's a it's a continuous process. It's not like these
contracts, you're buying commodities, you know, yeah,
it's, it's on paper, but at a certain point, it's like,
alright, pay me and deliver. Right, that's how it goes right.
Now this latest run up the I when I was at the thing with the
market watch guys, we had one guy who was the CEO of minion
Ville, and he was who was also a columnist for us, Todd, and he
was it was a really typical stock trader, he was on the
machine. And he was short on some energy futures and some but
he had to monitor it by the second so he's basically what
everyone else is talking about things he was like, he would say
something in check to check the chart and say something because
he was had to be a minute by minute thing because he knew it
was a little risky. His position because oil had was dipping that
day. And But anyway, he was you know, he was on top of this and
it felt that there was some some something screwy going on. And
he didn't have the opportunity to watch this hearing. And I
don't think a lot of people did, but it was fascinating. But the
thing that I was thinking when the thing took this big jump
way, the biggest jump in history, like the other day
yesterday, I'm thinking and of course it's sunk the market 400
points. I'm thinking that maybe this is the death knell because
at some point, you know, let's just do everything we can to get
it up to as high as we can as far as we can and then get out I
think that the I think may that might have been it possibly I
had exactly the same response only I'm going to take it one
step further. I think it was a test and they popped it and
they're like oh shit and you know because everyone's spec so
$150 is the next psychological barrier that will freak
everybody out. I think they they're gonna try for 200
because they there's no downside the credit the credit crisis
just show show that so what Yeah, so what if if it blows up
and Yeah, they'll get bailed out or somewhere happened or
whatever? I think they're gonna go for 200 And that's the pop
then all sudden this oil comes rushing in from your end up
ports
all over the place. romps the country we get back to $2 a
gallon Oh man,
it's gonna drop like an MF the dollar is gonna go sky high and
John you know I like what you said I think it's actually makes
more sense because the downside there dude yeah, no, no,
no, you're right. I
was thinking small you're right you got the right I think you're
right it's
that's the difference John between you and me? You think
small my friend.
Yeah, you might be right. They might just be saying okay, screw
it. We're just gonna take it to the wall. blows up.
Let's let's end it on that note. We're over an hour and a half.
That's what people complain about.
Actually, they don't I know they love it.
Ah, yes. Well, we'll see what happens. So what are the things
we need to look out for you have a lot to blog today John? Way
too much. Yeah, but so it's not over with Clinton yet. I we I
think we both agree on that. It's not over yet. Who knows
what they'll come up with. But it's not over with oil and it's
definitely not over with oil. They're gonna go for 200 It'll
be interesting to see if they make it because you know the
future the some of the contracts are already written so they
would make sense. And crap. I know you around this week.
I have to go to Michigan for a couple days. We'll be back on
Wednesday. Okay, giving us a talk about, you know, the future
of newspapers to a publishing group up there.
And that's your That's your new speech. Right. That's your new
thing.
Yeah, that's one of them.
You're gonna send me that. I want to see I want to see your
speech.
I'm finishing it today.
I thought you I thought you had already done this just recently.
I have but I got this. Now. I have a slideshow to go with it.
That's, that's a little more advanced. Wow.
When one's in the neighbourhood, would you get me an invite? I'd
love to see one of your shows. One of your gigs. Yeah,
absolutely. Do you sell merch? If like T shirts.
Now, you know, people say well, you should be selling books at
these things. And stuff to schlep. You know, I'm like a
light traveller. Yeah.
As a joke in that too.
Hey,
All right, everybody. This is it. we're winding down the show
once again from Guilford in the United Kingdom. I'm Adam curry.
And out here in Northern California, a nice sunny day, by
the way. I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll talk to you again next week on no agenda.