Some runes, that's my advice, Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. It's
Thursday, December 30 2010. Time to get my nation media
assassination episode 265. This is no agenda. Watching the
mudslide down the hilltop Watchtower crackpot command
centre and get my nation West here in the People's Republic of
Southern California and the morning I am the former Soviet
spy known as Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's Christmas weekend,
nobody's working. And it shows I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg Vaughn
buzzkill
lazy asses there. In the morning to you, John, in the
morning to you and in the morning to all ships at sea and
foot on the ground. Okay,
we'll try that again. It ships at sea and boots on the ground.
Boots, wings in the skies, hams on the air and human resources
in the chat room with no agenda chat.net They are completely
charged up and ready to go the way that government loves them.
You
know, you know, it seems to me that you're going to run on
that, that that line, you should say, hams on the air and human
resources everywhere.
Oh, to do like a rhyme.
It would have a nice little rhyming end.
Okay, like a haiku note, well, haikus
don't necessarily rhyme you know, I
know. Every I'm changing it now in the script. So so we always
have it correct now, but can you maybe remember for ones that
have boots on the ground and not feets on the ground?
Keep washing up on shore. Yeah.
Hey, John. last show of 2010.
Oh, that's right. That's just the last show of the last year.
That's right. How was your Christmas?
Christmas was good.
What did you receive? Did you receive anything any gifts
outside of pure love from your family?
I got a few things this and that. And the other like what do
you get? Nothing. Chicken. Well, I got a it's just you know,
a lot of men just say it's safe to say what's wrong. You got a
pile of all kinds of stuff. You don't remember? Do
you? That's the you remember. The most important thing is not
really a gift of some sort of work done for me. So
Oh, really? Like, like one of those gift certificates like,
Hey, dear dad.
Those don't work by the way. They suck. I hate
I used to do those once in a while for my parents. Yeah, no,
don't do a wash like the car. Yeah, thanks. You know, I
still have one of those from my wife from about 15 years ago to
wash the car I pull out every once in a while to wash the car.
Worry about this ice grill. Yeah. But was it to wash the car
or what was like all kinds of stuff. You know, the cleaning
office to scratch my back? has a huge pile. It is a big giant
bundle. Really? It
says scratch my back that Yeah.
It was like and it's like, within a month romantic.
Well, you know, like, you wouldn't mean me. I gotta tell
you guys are just killing me.
So it's like,
oh, oh, no. Hello, John. Hello. Oh, that was weird. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I, for some reason you went on hold. It must have
been my fault.
I say, you know, within a month, I could you know, scratch your
own back. And then the next year is to give me a back scratcher.
And that was the end of that.
I got some cool gifts.
So I get it. You want to talk about your gifts? No, what was
the coolest one?
The coolest one was from my daughter. She gave me a USB
record player. Which I thought was so awesome. Because you
know, it's like when I was shoot, man, when I was five, I
think I had a plastic this is made of plastic. Of course. I
had a plastic record player with like a little suitcase in your
blue and you open it up and the top was the was the speaker and
then you could put my Peter and the Wolf record on. And this
thing is pretty amazing. It's like you know, it's a it's a
record player and you plug it in it has a stereo outs as well.
But you can plug it into your computer or else has a little
transmitter in it. You can
curiously my wife gave me the exact same gift about two
Christmases ago but it doesn't have the transmitter it's the
original old older version, right?
The transmitter part is pretty cool but because it's it's
portable, but on the daily source code tomorrow last one of
the year I'm going to play some vinyl that I got laying around
shout man. Well wait until you see what I've got laying around
and vinyl that's that's what's really cool is not just sound
scratchy. You'll have to listen tomorrow.
Come on, tell me no listen tomorrow. Just tell me one
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. The message
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Oh the long episode version what was that? Oh, wherever we had
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We hit people in the mouth
shut up. By the way, are the spokesperson for that clip got
fired? Yeah,
I read about that. So that's good. So maybe we can get him to
do a new version for us. He needs a gig. He's looking for a
gig and we're at we're at form right now. Now Big Bear is kind
of interesting went up there to the snow. So the way it's
advertised if you live in LA, here's the way you say it. Big
Bear man. It's great. It's only two hours away. Now when you
actually drive it is three and a half hours.
I'm surprised is that short? Yeah.
And it was we had like a snowstorm. up there, it was
pretty cool. It was actually quite I didn't stay long enough,
I would have to say, but we didn't want to risk getting
stuck up there and not being able to do the show. I swear to
God, we got to come back on time. Well on time Wednesday
evening, so we don't mess up the show. That's good, although
there was a fine and dandy high speed internet available. So I
could have done the show from there. In fact, as most people
do, I was up there and you look around you go, Well, I could buy
a plot of land, and we could just park a trailer on it while
we're building the house.
No, that's the beginning of the end.
You know, that's how it starts. Right? And I know, I
know, people have done it. I know lots of people who've done
it. And it's always the beginning of the end, what is
the end? The end is a break up with whoever they're with, or
they can't stick a trailer. Cabin Fever, right? And they
either don't finish the house or they go broke, building the
house and have to sell it at a loss. It's just don't do anybody
out there thinking about don't do it, do it? Do it. The number
of successful people. The number of successes with that model is
so it does happen. I've ran into somebody who actually managed
only for
only for mountain living or how about people who How about for
people who go to an island, you know that it's the same thing
you go to like some tropical paradise. Like, Oh, I love it
here so much how we're going to live here, honey. You know what
I mean? Yeah,
yeah, that's exactly what happened. It's the beginning of
the end. Just do not do not do it. Don't even think about it.
But anyway, of course, it's been the coldest and rainiest weather
on record for Gitmo nation West for the Republic of California.
Yay, same up. I know it's been that way for Southern
California. Same for us and more miserable up here. Yeah, of
course, around the world around the globe, we have climate
change abound. We can't say global warming because let's
face it, it ain't getting warmer. But let's call it
climate change. Or as some like to say something funny though,
in the Gitmo nation, East United Kingdom, they had a scheme as
they call it, over there in I guess it was like four or five
years ago. And the scheme was you would get a 400 pound I
guess tax break or rebate, if you installed one of the
extremely environmentally, global warming climate change
friendly boilers. And so that's like, it's like, basically,
there were 8 million households according to this. According to
the Daily Mail, 8 million households that basically threw
out perfectly good boilers, which is what makes your water
hot. And I think it's for it's not just for the water bits for
heating as well. And a lot of the the British homes threw away
a perfectly good boilers bought these new ones. Except that's a
small problem. The way they work is unlike a conventional boiler,
because this essentially takes the 25% heat that normally goes
out of the vent and exhaust pipe as it should. And it and it
tries to pipe it back down into the system. So that means
there's a cold pipe running along the back of the boiler.
And of course, these are all freezing up during this horrible
weather they're having. So at least 60,000 people I've called
in so far saying my new boiler doesn't work. I'm freezing my
ass off to Good job, everybody. Way to go.
You know if you're gonna be suckered into into the some of
these initiatives, maybe you deserve a little lesson.
Yeah. Well, yeah, that can happen anywhere. I just thought
it was kind of interesting.
Just saying. There was a number of articles that are starting to
come out of all the newspapers in England now about climate
change, and the standard predictions in the year 2000.
And more, more recently, a book that came out in 2004, saying,
Oh, the children will never see snow again. You never see snow
again. And now they're starting to dig up this nonsense. I mean,
you dug it up on the show. Last write write the article from
2000 2000 saying dig it'll be you know, the poor kids.
They won't only have virtual snow on the internet.
Yeah, no, they won't know what a snowman. I told my daughter that
she's like,
What? Because she lived through the past two winters in London.
She's a virtual, never been colder in my life.
Again, London would be a very miserable place to be in. It's
cold anyway.
Well, you know, what happens in because they're so unprepared
for this is people wind up having to sleep in their cars on
the highways. I mean, it's really bad. Add
yes in fact in and they probably don't know the basic rules about
stuff like that, like if you live in Colorado, you're taught
since you're raised as a kid to never let your gas tank go
anywhere near like half empty. Yeah and half empty is already
is yours you're already risking your life. Because you could end
up in your car for days, you know, and extremely cold weather
you have to keep the engine running or you're going to
basically die the data
you're gonna die. Wow. Anyway, I didn't know that. But of course,
I haven't been raised in Colorado. But I didn't know
that.
But yeah, keep your gas tank above a half full always.
Should we start the show off with something kind of light and
funny, huh? A little. In fact, it kind of qualifies as real
news. It's not really news. But it was Oprah. Oprah is starting
her new her new channel.
The Oh no, the funny thing is didn't Oprah already started
channels some years back back in the late 90s Call Oh,
was just on cable was not just a magazine.
Now she did a magazine too. But she had a cable channel call.
Oh, that because I remember that's when I was working in the
cable. You know, I was running where you were when you were a
cable mogul. I was a cable. No, that cable and lackey. Big
difference. And as a lackey, I would look at the other channels
and there was Oprah channel that I think Paul Allen and it had
invested in
really well than that, that explains it. That's why it
failed. He invested in it. Before the judge threw out his
claims. The member he was going after everyone except Microsoft.
Patent infringement. The court threw it all out which kind of
solidifies my my theory that he was just doing it to prove that
these lawsuits are frivolous and to get frivolous lawsuits off
the system. He'll have to go back in and appeals but no one
has mentioned this, I don't think but all of the his entire
lawsuit was dismissed. Anyway, let's play the jingle then while
we're at it. And now back to real. So Oprah gets roasted at
the Kennedy honours and she's up there. I swear to God, it's
Oprah. Michelle, and Barack I mean, holy moly. Up there in the
in the sky. Oh, sorry. Oprah Paul McCartney, Michelle Obama,
Barack Obama, who
the elites
it's the totally totally so by the way, it's kind of funny
because it wasn't it. Paul McCartney was on stage with John
Lennon when the Queen was up there in the box and John Lennon
said just you know other other people have their just rattle
your jewellery. to Now he is the elite. But Chris Rock who of
course, panders to the elite.
Oh, yeah. Roasted over the elite. The jesters. Yes,
court jester of the elite. He, he came, he did a pretty funny
routine about about Oprah and I thought it'd be fun to listen to
it this morning just to get into the into the vibe of where
you're not this holiday season. You're not at the Kennedy centre
being honoured and roasted like Queen O'Brien walk
in this room. And it's an amazing feeling to look up and
see the most powerful person in the world. And right up.
Now, what was funny, but what was funny about this, is that
the camera cut to Michelle, who was actually sitting next to
Barack Obama, and she and she made this like, That's rad bit
to me. But of course, Chris Rock was talking about Oprah. But it
was kind of funny to see and she has like these wireframe glasses
on it's unbelievable. elitist, but she thought it was about her
and then of course Chris launches straight into Oprah.
He didn't get her job she got him a job.
completely true.
No one deserves this award more. But no one needs it less. That's
good right
at this point, Brock's like he's turning around. That's really
funny.
Oprah and Paul McCartney had said the FCC would have to
approve it.
That's a good joke.
And that was alright. I
thought was pretty fun.
I'm sure that grok is hilarious, but it is. All that's missing is
the cord gesture gesture outfit, with the crazy hat and the you
know, the striped shirt and the whole thing. Hey, John,
something just happened with
oxygen channel that Oprah own.
Something just happened it hasn't happened in a long time.
But you went up an octave on Skype. I did. You're on the
helium, Skype.
That hasn't happened for a while. I so I want to. I wish I
had something I could read.
It's okay. Just be yourself. It's really good. Do do a review
of something. Give me some of that CES.
I'm choking. I don't know what to do.
Come on, you could do it.
Read the story drinking helium.
Come on, man. Read the story.
Hello, John and Adam, please accept my double nickels on the
dime donation as the last show was totally epic. My friends and
family all think this is a crackpot thing. I'm a crackpot.
And I love it. I have two email requests for you are two small
requests. I have two brothers that so it works out. Please
call my brother Matt. a douchebag. All right, hold on.
You know what? I think I'm just gonna call you back. Just two.
Oh, bummer. The chat room was going off. Shucks, it was so
cool. Let me call you back. It'll be well worth today. All
right. As funny as it is, I think we should have John and
his full glory. Oh, am I doing? Funny, you're doing good. So um,
well, what about Matt? He's a douchebag. And we'll get to
Craig's letter later.
So there's this story that's been running rampant. About kids
doing bath salts as a new form of drug.
Now back to Epsom salts,
bath salts, not Epsom bath salts.
Without that salt, well, it's salt.
Well, there's a number of things. So there's two things
kids now doing. Ingesting bath salts and smoking popery? Kids,
eventually anything you smoke will make you high. I mean,
it's, you know, put a carpet in there and a lack of oxygen.
Yeah, put a carpet in there and you will get high alright. So
police say it's a drug problem and they can't do anything about
it. Ingesting bath salts of smoking popery of gainward
police call a cult like following in recent months.
Back problem yeah, well
here's what happened. Because of course it's really bad stuff.
Police at a Kansas University Garcia Kansas University student
Elijah Taylor home on winter break threw himself in front of
a highway traffic in front of highway traffic last week. He
said it's after he snorted the bath salts so there apparently
there is some some chemical in the bath salt. That can make you
high
or making nuts. Yeah.
Let me see if I can find the oh by the way. It is the new oh
okay, here we go. Wow. hospital emergency rooms in every region
of Louisiana have treated 84 people for paranoia
hallucinations tachycardia what does that like heart
palpitations going? Yeah. Louisiana poison centre now
receiving four to five calls a day. This is like a whole Google
page filled with the stories about this. It's sold on with
these kits sold under brand names Lord, I've reweighed ocean
charged white lightning Scarface Hurricane Charley red dove cloud
nine white dove. And these are labelled bath salts. And
products are labelled not for human consumption. Hello, hint.
Oh, so there's these things are these aren't salts. These are
actually drugs may you know homebrew drugs that are sold. I
think so. Yeah. So the chemicals within the products sold us bath
salts are mephedrone. What does that ring a bell with you John
mephedrone?
I don't know what methadone is
and methyl lenah deoxy Provolone M MDP. Love.
You can mock me for pronouncing names poorly, but your
pronunciation of chemical names is hilarious.
So do you know what that is? No. Well, how do you know I'm
mispronouncing it?
I know you're mispronouncing it because I can hear the what the
words are within the what you're trying to say. Let's have
the maca Purdue. Hold on. See if the Mac can pronounce it. I
don't know if I can do that actually through this. Let me
see.
Sure. Yeah, I can.
I can't. Not the way I've got it set up today. It's too bad.
Yeah. So what is that? Methylene adoxa. provolone. I don't know.
Okay, well, anyway, kids, you
get the Merck index Hold on a second. It's right over here by
the
MDPV. And kids are snorting it along with smoking the popery
and this is a problem, I think.
Mainly Yeah. All right, yeah, we got the merch index here on the
show. Good start spell that for me is methyl
something? Yeah, me th y l
i got this a big book cool. I gotta get to the AMS of right?
Now this is really the what
is this going to be worth it? It's probably it's probably soap
is what it is. Methyl, e n e d,
mental e n e Diox. Way. Wait, ah methyl E. I've told you we made
a big stink about this.
About having the book right? Yeah. Can I just spell the whole
word for you?
Yeah. Then I can look it up. Okay.
m e t h YLENEDIOXPYR. O V A L E R O N E. G's. methacholine di,
dx perola Row Row. Row is best salt. I'm telling you, it's
gonna turn out to be bath salt. Crazy. So this apparently
started in Gitmo nation East in the United Kingdom as you're
looking that up it's the new legal high I've read wave it's
sweeping Britain. This is a story from 2009 I every wave
Yeah, that's the that's the brand name of this of these bath
salts that the kids are snorting in England I gotta get me some
of this and let's see get my nation down on myself and I get
my nation down under tapped in the Aussie snort super
addictive. I every wave I every wave gotta get me some
worse than cocaine. Yeah, illegal and cheaper who found
stores pushing the potentially dangerous drug?
So have you figured out what it is?
Now? Because you're dispelling you gave me a little dubious
suddenly I'm gonna look it up and okay.
I just thought it was entertaining. Yeah, let's let's
outlaw that stuff. Let's get the kids off of it off the ivory
Wait,
marijuana or something? You gotta legalise these days. Get
it?
Get them on a real drug. Stupid. I agree. Get them on a real
drug. This is no good.
Now this is just poisoning that youth. Yeah, every wave,
not. Now. Well, there it is. You can look it up for yourself in
the show notes. No agenda show.com where
the former cocaine user who says he's been clean for years told
us he tried snorting every wave. How clean Izzy. I'm trying.
I'm clean. But I want to snort them. Yeah,
I'd say it's 10 times more powerful than cocaine and lasts
10 times longer.
And your teeth are mighty clean.
is too powerful for me says the cocaine user. And I'm a grown
up, man.
I'm a grown up.
Wow. Okay, well, that's not good.
As we look back on 2010 It's been I
do a retrospective show on Sunday. Yeah,
it wouldn't. Yeah, well, that'll. And that'll be the
second everyone's going to be talking about the new year. No
one will care anymore about to
about the retrospectives go on for weeks.
Really? There's a retrospective that I'm gonna play you the
promo actually, is something that we've been we were all over
from the beginning. And of course, it's completely like
gone away. No one talks about it. It's a Dutch production from
Gitmo nation low lands. And it's a you can watch it online.
You'll find the link to the YouTube video series, since it's
four parts that YouTube only lets you upload like 10 minutes
or whatever. Under getting donations Lahti and it's about
Poland. And well, I'll play this promo for a second, which is
kind of the opening of this piece because it's the pieces in
this polish with the English narrator and English subtitles
translated subtitles, but it's about something that happened
this year that has just been kind of forgotten.
Hello, friends. I write you this letter from Krakow, Poland. Most
likely, after you will have read my letter, you will conclude
that I'm crazy. Or at least that everything in this letter is
preposterous. And you know what? I even hope that you are right.
And this is just a hallucination or at worst nightmare.
Nevertheless, at this moment, I myself and most of my countrymen
are deeply concerned and uncertain. Maybe history will
prove that our initiatives are false, that we have a natural
tendency to paranoia as a part of Polish soul. Maybe. I hope
so. But for now, let me tell you about my worries. They start on
April 10. So do
you remember what happened here? pretend John,
wasn't that the guy from yo agenda?
I know it sounds like comic strip blogger who is from
Poland, by the way. No, but this is about the half of the half of
the elites, half of the government was wiped out in one
crash. And Russia
discussed this, including the gunshots that took place with
the kill the rest of the ones that didn't die in the play.
Exactly.
And so this is an Outstanding, outstanding piece of video, I
have to say, produced with government money in getting my
nation lowlands. And it just really, really good. It's
called. Letter A letter from Poland. And, you know, it's when
you look at where Poland is on the map, I encourage you to do
that, from time to time, just pull out we have to think about
Google Earth. And you'll see that there's a reason why they
have scepticism. And what did you say? A part of the polar
sole? Well, they're worried. Yeah, I would think perpetually
worried about so they are.
I don't blame them. Yeah.
So just something great to watch. If you want to kind of
wrap up the year. feel real good about yourself. I shouldn't have
kind of a read a retrospective show in a way.
By the way, it's pronounced methylene. deoxy. Pyro valour
own.
And what is it?
I don't know. I can't find it in the book.
Well, how do you know how to pronounce? It's not in the
board? The record is not because it's in Johnson and Johnson
stable of cleaning products. It's not a drug. It's so stable.
It's so John is soap. Get with it? So I've been continuing to
follow what's going on in Haiti? And and I have a reason for
that. Because of course, so who was it? Who who did the big
benefit for Haiti? John, who was
there was a couple of guys very, very big, big guys. Yeah, it was
that guy who went there was there was a guy named Clinton.
Yes. That's one was a former president united states.
Yes. Who was the special envoy to the United Nations? He, I
believe, is president after President Humphrey. Then there
was another president was involved. Bush,
Bush, Bush. Yes. Correct. And what did they say?
Just send us your cash.
Now, right now, all we need from people. If you can't be part of
a medical team, or a search and rescue team, we just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just
send your cash.
So they had an there was another guy who did the big benefit. Who
was that John? The big benefit? You know, the big one of all the
stars now with all the stars?
Wasn't Bono? Was it? Did Paul McCartney was it? Who was it?
Clooney? Clooney. George Clooney. Right? He's the number
one guy and he's the go
to guy. were we talking about him later today? Oh, so Haiti
had elections. And and they were they were disputed. This is how
it's by the way, no, Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper, no one's on
the ground. No boots on the ground. No one walking around.
No more live reports about all the billions of dollars that
have not showed up and people still live in intented areas as
Clinton calls it. But the because the elections were
disputed. The results have to be reviewed by the o a s. Do you
know what that is the OAS,
the Office of animals and shelter if
you're not being serious today. It is the organisation of
American States. Oh, yeah,
right. Those are the right word. We kicked it where it wasn't the
United States kicked out of that group.
Well, what's interesting is there was a guy who was kicked
out of the OAS, a kind of a high ranking official, a Brazilian
diplomat. He's actually been kicked out of the OAS, he's been
kicked out of Haiti altogether, because he was criticising what
happened in during these elections publicly in Swedish
publications, by the way that the Swiss not the Swedes, by the
way, are really doing a pretty good job of reporting on the
atrocities that's going on there. And there's a huge
article linked in the show notes. And what I found from
this was an A report from our Canadian friends are at CBC who
actually did a very good job of reporting on the elections in
Haiti. And I feel compelled to share that with the group. Since
this is, you know, remember what we got here in the United
States, and in Britain, and in the Netherlands and Germany and
all these places where we send all of our money, we texted our
$10 Oh, I feel so much better now. And so a year later,
everyone's still intense. We're pooping out everything. because
we're pooping out.com, full of cholera brought in by the UN.
And here's how the election sounded. This is a retrospective
report from CBC in Canada
we consider today's presidential election a critical for the
country, but it was rife with problems and widespread
allegations of fraud. The CBC is Paul Hunter is in Haiti to cover
the election. Paul,
this was reported, by the way about fraud. Right. So what do
you think that means, John, you think, oh, there's some fraud? I
mean, do you think
Well, I would think that it means somebody is stealing money
when it comes to an election. Oh,
when it comes to the election event, meaning that the people
were taking getting credit for votes that didn't take place or
there was some people being paid to vote, or the whole thing was
rigged. Here
we go. Tell us what you saw today.
I saw ballot stuffing Wendy I saw ballots torn from the ballot
boxes I saw angry election officials angry candidates angry
voters. I saw the kind of election people here hoped this
would not be Hey, how can
Where's Anderson Cooper with that?
Second Wait a minute,
where's Anderson?
Where's anybody? I never heard this. This was in what country
was playing this this report? ADEA. Well, what's wrong with
the US of A hawk and we're not developing these
because we don't want anyone to know about this because this is
gonna be our suckers who
gave the Clinton all that money? That's Yes,
exactly. And we got to build our hotels there I
strike yet it can take advantage of people's goodwill and
generosity.
Get in line he's saying at this downtown polling station, but
they've been in line for hours and not a single ballot has been
handed out. Palooza version 14. It's a government trick. He says
the government doesn't want us to vote. Outside tensions
ratchet up voters shout at UN soldiers including Canadians.
Across town at a poll in the city, so a slum a different kind
of problem. To get your ballots here he can do one or two
things, he can get the proper way from election officials and
market and put them in there. Or you can pick up as many ballots
as you want from any of the variety of people we've seen
just handing them out to anyone again and again. And again.
Watch that you
really have to see this video, which I'm amazed is not on the
on CNN, I'm missing Anderson. You see like they got these
ballot boxes, which are basically plastic aquaria with a
little slot on top and there's nothing in it. A guy walks up
for like a fistful and stuffs a whole bunch in and the report
goes on for five minutes, just about rampant. You even see the
ballot boxes lying in the gutter and let me play a little bit
more. It's just it's so crazy that this is not being reported
on at all. But we're about to go through exactly the same thing.
And that's why I'm bringing this up carefully
at the bottom of the screen as ballots are handed off so voters
can vote again. How many times has this man voted? We asked.
Many times these people tried to stop us from videotaping it. But
we saw ballot stuffing nonetheless, that hand has a wad
of ballots so thick, it can hardly fit in the box and there
are more ballots in his other hand.
Okay. So let's just go through the genesis of this. So almost a
year ago, we had this a huge earthquake, right? Yeah. And
just by coincidence, everyone was doing training exercises
right in that area. Remember that? Yep. It was really
coincidental, right. And then, oh, so then we pulled all our
guys I only had like 30,000 US troops and and we then we had
the our huge benefits shows. And everyone's like, Oh, we are the
world. We are the children. Everyone's sending billions of
dollars, Clinton and Bush. And now we fast forward a year
later, and all we're waiting for is for the shill government to
be put in place which is Jude Sela Steen, and he will
essentially hand over control to the United States government.
No, no, he's handing it over to Clinton, not the US.
I'm sorry. You're right. You're right to Clinton. The Clinton
who then will subsequently build his hotels is tax haven as
always his favourite place that's gonna be awesome, too.
Are they had their honeymoon? We have to remember some of the
backstory.
Yes, in that though, you can still stay at that wonderful
hotel, by the way. Yeah, it's still open for business. So
we're about to see something very, very similar. And, and
it's important to see the players. So we caught this.
About a month or two ago, George Clooney hanging out with
President Barack Obama. And it's about Sudan and Darfur. And we
of course, being the suspicious guys that we are saying, oh,
wait a minute. What's happen in here. And I think you were the
one that came up with his dad looking like a spook. Are you
with me, John?
Yes, his dad does look like a spook.
Okay, well, I'm waiting for you to chime in at any moment. And
hello out of the store
on a roll. You're kind of moving in. Okay. All right. Good. Good.
Let me go. I'm let you go.
All right. So then we find out of course, that his dad is part
of the American University. And there's a whole you know, that's
the whole media shill system is there. In fact, you even told us
that the famous speech by was it Roosevelt? No, Eisenhower,
Eisenhower about the media in the military industrial complex,
and initially was the
military hairy, industrial, academic, academic complex,
right?
So we connected all those dots. So now it's time for Clooney to
sell it because he's got to sell it. We've We've got something's
going on in Sudan. Something's going on in Dar four. And, and
Clooney is the man. He's got to go in and sell this thing. And
so what did you get this article emailed to you, John, maybe a
couple of times. Take it. About George Clooney teaming up with
Google and several other celebrities. They are going to
be watching through satellite technology movements of what is
happening in Sudan. And he has a website for this. It's called
Not on our watch. You can find it at Not on our watch
project.org And here it is board member George Clooney, the world
is watching new satellite Sentinel project aims to deter
war in Sudan, a new human rights project initiated by Not On Our
Watch board member George Clooney, who combined satellite
imagery analysis and field reports with Google's Map Maker
technology to dirt deterred the assumption of war between North
and South Sudan, launched today, the satellite Sentinel project
will use satellite imagery analysis and crowdsource mapping
to monitor the tense border between North and South Sudan.
Okay. So what does all this mean? First of all, it sounds
really high tech, like George has got some kind of amazing
shit going on. And he's going to be looking at everything and
he'll be a he'll be it's a he's on. He's, he's our man in the
sky is the eye in the sky? George Clooney is going to make
sure that there's no bad stuff going on how many people have
been killed in Sudan, and are for like millions and
millions? There's a well, you know, I
millions, two and a half million. But why? What is it
about what is what is what is going on and see if we were to
guess? What couldn't wait, the fractal that we've been doing on
this show? Probably since its inception. And one of the
easiest ones is you look up the name of the country and you and
then you use the two words in Google oil near.
Right. So Sudan is basically it's one big oil pit with sand
on top of it.
Okay. And the thing is, is that most of the good oil is in the
south part. And where's all the others are referendum to three
and a half because, well, there's mediaeval Muslims up in
the north. And there you go. harboured
bin Laden. By the way, there terrorists have their
terror terrorist Bin Laden to hold and pirates. And they're
controlling the oil in the south of these poor, peaceful people.
And so we must split the country in half. And we're gonna monitor
with Google satellites, just to scare the crap out of you just
in case you're trying to pull a fast one. And we're going to
split the country in half with a referendum. That's right. Well,
who probably never voted in their lives January
11.
Let me guess. That's the point you were making. At election.
Yeah, it's gonna be very similar. Yeah, I'm getting I'm
getting it's falling into place touching, yes. And then the
money will be flowing. Right.
And it's just amazing when you see because what of course is
needed is as this is taking place, this referendum was set
up in 2005. As part of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement,
big joke, which was decided by the elites in The Hague, is this
is how it works. Like you get a bunch of the Africans. They in
Sudan, heard of The Hague. And then the Hague is ago we have a
peace agreement here and then January 11 2011. Love that, by
the way. 11111 the elites laughing in your face once
again. They're going to hold this referendum which of course
will it's going to kill tonnes of people
all you have a lot of people are gonna die in this but in order
to sell it in order to
sell it to the slaves, the stupid slaves like us, we've got
to get our guy Clooney in. And he's he's the he's the go to the
go to guy, but he's also hanging around some creepy guy that if
we well, I got it here. So he's got first of all he on this Not
On Our Watch project. kicked out or he brought in Don Cheadle.
Matt Damon Brad Pitt. Jerry Weintraub accidentally. Let's
play a little game. John was played Oh game, which name does
not belong in this list? George Clooney, Don Cheadle, Matt Damon
Brad Pitt, Jerry Weintraub or David Pressman,
the hell's David press. But
right off the bat John Great. David Pressman is an American
human rights lawyer. According to Wikipedia, former aide to
Secretary of State matter Madeleine Albright. He advises a
number of high he's the handler highly visible individuals on
foreign policy and related advocacy strategies. He served
as an adviser to Secretary Lucet and loosing Apollo Tonto and
chief of staff to Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security
recently, he was appointed by President Barack Obama to serve
as director for war crimes and atrocities at the National
Security Council at the White House. And he will coordinate
the government's efforts to prevent and respond to mass
atrocities, genocide and war crimes. Yeah, he's the he's the
handler. He's the handler. Exactly. And so of course,
there's nothing at all on this website about you can donate
without Why did
they leave donations? I'm looking at the stats to Dan,
which is the third largest oil producer be behind Nigeria and
Angola. And by the way, this is never mentioned in any of the
stores once in a while it comes up, but they're producing
without our help. I mean, in other words, I mean, we do have
some obviously foreign oil companies there, but they're not
obviously cranking it up to the max. Right now. They're
producing 40 490,000 barrels a day, which is which in 10 s to
$100. a barrel is $40 million a day in oil. Yeah, exactly. $40
million a day in oil. So you're gonna donate to this, you did
this group it to the Sudanese, when they're making $40 million
a day, watch what they out of the ground,
exactly. Watch the fractal, watch what will happen, there's
going to be, it'll come around 111111, which is just
unbelievable that they have this referendum on the first of
January, on the 11th of January 2011. There's going to be huge
killing going on huge killing of innocent people. And then we're
gonna have like, Oh, my God, we need a What should we do? Oh,
let's, let's have a little telephone for them. Let's send
them some money. So we all feel good about the elites, so
killing black people
for oil. Actually, the notion that everything is, you know,
the reason that a lot of charities work is not to really
do any good, but it's to make the charitable person
feel good. It's to make you feel good. It's exactly what you
don't.
So you don't have to think about it. Well, I did my part, I sent
him 100 bucks,
those of you and get my nation lowlands who have been following
this every single year, as a bunch of DJs radio wacky DJ
stuff, they get him something called the glass house. And it's
a house made of glass. And they broadcast for like a week
nonstop. And they don't sleep or eat or whatever it is. And
people egg them on by donating money for dark for has been
going on for years this for at least at least four years that I
can recall. Maybe you
need all that money. So you can fly Clooney around in a private
jet.
Along with Matt Damon. Yes, it's like $6,000 an hour. But if you
look at the links in the show notes, and I've assembled quite
a number for you. You'll see the CIA activity and the Saddam been
going on since the 80s. Of course, because there's oil
there. See is
the net. I mean, the real reason by the way that they're brought
bringing in the heavy hitters in my
eyes because China is there China's coming in for the boy is
now nosing around, yeah, they're handing out guns. Yeah, they
say, Hey, give us your oil. And here you have some Chinese guns.
Yeah, that's why because this is what's happening in Pakistan.
It's the same thing. The Chinese come in with like a $25 billion
a package. And all we've got is like, Oh, 7 billion.
Yeah, we don't need to assuage that. I mean, the Chinese don't
need to assuage their public like we do, we have to come up
with a bunch of, you know, cover stories and all this other
Clooney and all these other things, to make everybody feel
like that something important is happening. That's why we're
throwing money at it, where the Chinese don't have to do that.
They don't care. They just go do what they have to do. And then
the public over there doesn't pay any attention. They're more
concerned about you know, local politics,
and that that jabroni thing Network for Good they're on the
back end of this once again, these are the guys that we saw
on the last was that thing we were looking at that that other
fundraising thing I don't know oh yeah with with with the
knighthoods and all that. So this is all right
that day. Yeah, right Network for Good. They still they still
are knighthood, concept ground spring.org.
Network for Good. And these are the guys that are doing all the
transactions. So, and they say that they returned $25 to the
sector for every $1 invested in Network for Good. Sounds bogus.
But that depends on what your definition of the sector
exactly raised over $270 million in online donation excessive
like a couple of chumps job bronies total losers. So there's
a couple of you know, of course, Google's in on this, the UN is
in on this because they have to be because we're gonna have to
send more un people they have to
not do it. Because they're the you know, the Yeah. There were
strong armed into it. I don't believe for a minute that they
came up and volunteer for this job.
No, no, there's like, gay, what, but they'd love it, though.
It's a great Google to help us and they wouldn't. The Africans
die a miserable death. Those Google horrible do no evil
Googlers.
But you hit you hit it right on the nose there, John, the whole
idea is, so just so you know. And if we had known about the
earthquake machine hitting Haiti, we would have been able
to call that one as well. It's not about the people, the people
are there to die. And they have to. Yeah, thank you, darling.
And they have to die because we have to get the oil and we got
to clean these pesky people out of the way. Because they're
living on the oil go away, you slaves go away. So we have to
kill them. And it's unfortunate but that's the way the world
works.
These people they're living on the oil rouse dumb. Yes. Some
some some bad news, Muslims and kill them. Yeah, blame it on
now.
That's well, that's what they're gonna do. Because there's
already the al Qaeda on the Sudanese Peninsula. She watch al
Qaeda in Darfur? Which one will it be John? Will it be al Qaeda
in Sudan, or al Qaeda?
Already been named? I think it already is. occurred in Darfur?
No, I think it's al Qaeda in Sudan. No, I don't know i It's
not catchy. Because I can look at the list not
as catchy catchy is Arabian Peninsula. The Arabian
Peninsula is the best Yeah,
they need some more market,
I mean, that set the stage for the rest of them.
But you can just watch you couldn't watch. And then you'll
laugh later, as all the stupid human resources in the in the
non African world, or then helps to make them feel good about the
death that is going to take place so that we can drive our
cars beat beat. With George Clooney, we'll put up we'll put
together a couple of initiatives and a couple of benefits, and
we'll get all the all the entertainers will come in, and
we'll all feel good as we text some money to these other guys.
That's how that is how it works. And I am. And I think that in
2011, we'll see we'll see this happen a number of times. And
we'll probably probably have talking points about it
eventually. It's very complicated, because it's hard
for people to understand what it's about. But just
think how many times always about the oil, how many times it
gets money involved? Yeah.
How many times have you thought Have you heard about dark for
like, oh, yeah, wow, this really sucks me. Yeah, there's like
warlords and stuff going on. Why are
they running these people out of the country? And no one ever
asks the question, why? What are their buddies because the
Muslims hate these people. That I know the whole thing. The
thing that's bothering me the most about this is that somebody
this is obviously studied, and somebody has tightening up the
cycle, the cycle of doing these benefits used to be a long one
that used to be you know, the the aid for the USA for Africa,
USA for Africa. They do these different concerts that they
throw every show of hands across America was my all time
favourites going to end homelessness. And everyone's
gonna grab a hands and all across the entire country,
you're gonna hold hands and but there was all kinds of holes
because you couldn't get over the Rockies and there's all
these issues and ever didn't do the thing, right. But they
claimed they did. And this was all going to end homelessness.
It didn't end anything in homelessness for the guy who put
it on. We got to cycle between these things has been moved
closer and closer as almost so they can have a weekly event.
Yeah. But we leave that out that the public doesn't Dave Rubin
snickered so much that they don't even care anymore. They
just, you know, they get they get a guilty conscience and they
throw money at it by texting.
No, but it's getting better now because now as a part of all
banking, and as a part of credit cards. They're doing this in the
UK, they're trying to roll this out nationally, where every
purchase you make, every purchase you make a piece of
that will go to the good cause to that can have this role. This
is what Bob Geldof is all about. And apparently there was some
great documentary in the UK was on the BBC, and I can't get it
on there. iPlayer but it was like it's all about bye Geldof
and, and, and the other guy. I forget his name. And how they
really started this rolling these guys. They are they are so
in. And meanwhile it's like Oh sir Bob or st Bob or whatever.
But it's your right, they've tightened it up and it's just
going round and round. And now we're actually going to take
money out of every purchase you make to keep that thing going,
which is the feel good foundation. If you want to feel
good. Send us some money.
Yeah, we do ones that are broke.
Well, not quite broke. But yeah, to two weeks of no agenda
$100 million, like these other guys are getting from all these,
you know, whoever is donating I have no idea. I mean, I'm sure
that most of the people that donate to our show are not
donating to these other initiatives because they, you
know, they might they might they might not maybe they would I
mean every once in a while here's something I go when it's
a pretty good idea. You know, I feel like donating there's
something I have to look into it. I mean, most people don't do
that. That's the problem. But so Geldof was the in the Boomtown
Rats is that this Yes,
he did I don't like Mondays was his number one hit? He's only
hit I think the Boomtown right so he
does he did the take a page from Bono or what's the deal with
these guys?
They both come from the same region but I think Bob was has
been around longer than Bono. Yeah, Bob's got his think Bob's
doing his his watch commercials with Jimmy Wales. So as he's
spending his goodness out, that's okay. Guys got to eat.
But I mean, if you really want to look into into all at Live
Aid, and USA for Africa, I mean, the whole joke of it is is we
were going to end all this horrible stuff in Africa with
the first Live Aid which by the way, was a media a spectacular
media event.
But so his hands across America, don't get yourself and dropped
across America. That's There you go. That's, that's the chat room
was already organising that one
Live Aid was held on 13th of July this how long ago this
woman in 1983, I think was 1985 85, right? It was organised
by Bell, Bob Geldof and Midge URI majeure of ultravox to raise
funds for the relief of the ongoing Ethiopian famine. Right,
which by the way, the Ethiopians are now well fed by Monsanto.
Hey, that's right. Guild as the global Juke,
by the way, they have to show they're not hungry anymore.
They're just malnourished.
They're doing groovy now,
billed as the global jukebox, the event was held
simultaneously in Wembley Stadium in London, and the John
F. Kennedy Stadium in Philadelphia, you know
that there are some listeners of the show who are not alive and
did not witness Live Aid. That's how long ago
it was. Yeah, it's a long time ago. It's a 20. What's the 25
years ago? 26? Almost, yeah, we have we have listeners, and we
had
USA for Africa. We are the world we had band aid. And it all
includes the same people over and over again. Yeah. And I
think we've mentioned that every time
they do it, the money gets moved over somewhere that you know,
they make a bunch of money on the album, and then everybody
somebody makes a fortune, just just
so you know, because I think we've mentioned this before, but
like we are the world, which is written by Michael Jackson,
Lionel Richie, a couple of people. But most of these big
benefits, the rights, the money from the rights only goes to the
cause for like three years, then it reverts back to the artist or
to the to the author of the composer and the author. It's
not in perpetuity by all means.
But there's always complaining after the fact that where's the
money go and we needed them accounting and they never get
it.
Of course, not shyster show up and take advantage of people's
goodwill and generosity.
Listen to this, the performers that got into this, you remember
Phil Collins got on the Concorde he started in, in Wembley, and
then they flew him on Concorde to Philadelphia and he played it
was great was amazing at the time was like, wow, he was he
was in in in England, in London. And he played there. And then he
got on this really fast plane. And he flew all the way to
America. And he played there again in the same day. It was
amazing. We had no internet we had no cell phones back then.
Man and everybody Mick Jagger, Crosby, Stills in young Madonna,
Tom Petty. I mean, you name them. Yeah. Yeah. That was a
Yeah, it was awesome.
David Bowie, the WHO Elton John.
Let's not get off track you groupies. So maybe we should
just thank some people who are making themselves feel good by
supporting us.
And halfway through the show. Yeah, we're halfway through
talking about one thing we
Now we talked about a whole bunch of well this was a big
one. This is a huge huge thing it's a huge scam. At least
people are gonna get a climatologist see what that
would Clooney is saying? What? What? What you can do? Maybe we
can learn something for the pitch. Clooney says you can make
a difference. Stay informed, calling your elected
representatives to take action. Educate your community, make a
donation to support emergency and life saving programmes.
There we go, John. That's it. John, I would like people
listened to the show to make a donation to support emergency
and life saving programmes, namely ours. Yes. Seriously?
No, I think people should and then stay informed. He's
actually plugging our show. Yeah.
Thanks, Georgie. Oh, my goodness. Unbelievable. Okay, so
we can just wait for it. We can just wait for the atrocity to
take place and then we'll have the big benefit. And I wonder
who's going to be headlining the big benefit this year? Who who
who can? Who can headline a door for benefit? I don't know. We
got we gotta have some African
it'd be one of the reg. Well, there'll be Yeah, I bet maybe
that I don't know. Maybe that guy from Haiti will even be a
thing. Oh, man, maybe maybe that's thanks. Some people look
up to Ko and letters. There's two of them that I was reading
earlier, but I blew off my browser blew up. The letters
from if you look at Eric second note, he or his first note one
of the two he one of our donors. Who is
I don't know what you're talking about
Craig Cohen go look up Craig Cohen. He's got two emails that
he sent that you for his donation he does. They're not in
their spreadsheet so I can go look
him up, but I will I'm going now jeez.
Because you can do in an instant with whatever it is you've got
there. But I'm not an instant
but it does go pretty fast.
So let's thank a few people, including Lois Whitman has Lois
Whitman is actually a major PR person in New York City. The she
gave us $111.11 I thank her. Todd McGreevy, she's actually
one of the great PR women that actually work today she if she
was in Hollywood, she'd be they'd probably try to kill her
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says thank you guys for your commitment and discipline to
inform and entertain so we loyal listeners in the in the may live
semi saying I don't know what that means. Anyway Now Scott and
propagate the formula just like a missing word every
I got I got Craig Cohen's email. Okay,
we're gonna get right. We'll get to him shortly. Okay, there
should be two letters from Cohen. There's two of them. One
of them's got son. One of them is interesting, because he, he
mentioned the fact that he had to do a report on something we
discussed. No, I used Oh, well, he used our documentation
because our show notes are so extensive. And they are and
people it students out there who listen to the show should every
once awhile if you need to do a report or something go back if
you can find the show that we did something or take notes, and
you will find all the research done for you that will allow you
to do some pretty spectacular so
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I'm using for that rapid recall of emails mail steward. It's
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the steward, not in John Stewart, but steward. Okay, and
it stores all your email,
only on a Mac. Yep. Sure. Yep. You absolutely pause it. Yes.
And it stores all your email in a SQL database and the retrieval
there's Gotta be an equivalent on the piano, I can't
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And then he actually did hook me up, I have to say, I bought the
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But he's not listening to show. It's like, oh, my god, you guys
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be ported to Windows, and he just someone has to do it. And
he did the work. That's what I like about it.
It's a search algorithm.
Yeah, well, it's the sequel. That's all it is. So, you know,
I'm so convinced now that someone in the White House
listens to this show. Hello, by the way. Welcome to the
programme in the morning to you there at 6am in the morning.
Yeah, hello in the morning. Do you there? 1600 Pennsylvania
Avenue. We know you're listening. Because no sooner do
I start bitching about the President not being able to stop
smoking? After Robert Gibbs on the Robert Gibbs show in the
morning, said that the President was not proud of his smoking
just three weeks ago, we played that sound clip on the air
because it's been a little over three weeks, three weeks since
making I've stopped smoking. Now it's like, you know, it's like,
oh, this is a big deal. We've got to tell everyone, the
President stopped smoking. And Gibbs is out there lying. Lying
because you know, he hasn't stopped smoking. But now, on the
last show, I played the sound clip or go Well, I haven't seen
any evidence of him smoking for nine months. So of course, yeah,
believe it, but we call him on that now finally comes out. Now.
He just gives us the boldface lie. So
there's a tweet today. Something to announce about the President
and his maybe past smoking habit.
I love this. Robert Gibbs was tweeting. No, I got to tweet
this about those damn guys from no agenda.
I was asked. I was doing some questions on on Twitter.
I was doing some questions on Twitter. And people were saying
hey, I know agenda. They say the Presidents have plus a What are
you gonna do about that gives each morning
was asked whether the President was still smoking and I can
report that. It's been probably about nine months and probably
about nine
months. You know, I know exactly the date that I stopped smoking.
Anyone who stopped smoking can tell you to the day to the
minute to the second one, they stopped smoking. True or not?
died. Oh, no, no, please. The
last smoked a cigarette. He has done enormously well in
quitting.
He's done enormously well, in quitting. What does that say to
you, John, that he still smoking failed?
It's a commitment that I think you quit or you don't quit. You
don't
do enormously well, no.
He's done enormously. Well, the guy just can't help but help
themselves lying here. It's
letting it be known that he hasn't stopped. Well, he
said, well, listen, you know, he's, he's like, listen to and
listen to me well,
in quitting. It was a commitment that I think he made to himself
at the end of health care and with his two daughters in mind.
He hasn't quit. Have him come out and say it. Say I, Barack
Obama have quit smoking? Then I'll believe it. Yeah, that
would be the way to go. Because right now, Gibbs there at 1600
Pennsylvania Avenue. I'm sorry. I should actually the language
you would that you understand there. That's what you guys are
you speak Chinese Chinese do is pandering to the Chinese
Baroque, Barack Obama. We should play more of that. Maybe we
wouldn't get some guns from the Chinese.
We got a letter from a guy in China. Yeah, that says you know,
it's almost impossible to get a Pay Pal payment out of China or
send money out of China if you're over there. He says it's
just this a nightmare trying to live we find that to be a
problem with a lot of our foreign contributors. Yeah, so
if you haven't played one single one of your clips you haven't
asked John, do you have any clips for today? No, I've got I
got nothing at all.
I have a couple of interesting things. If you don't mind saying
so you're smoking you want to play the new 2011 Chantix ad
whoa yeah has a woman that now they're playing at the same you
know, they're lightening it up a little bit. They got a Boston
sounding woman so she sounds down to her. She's very pretty,
but she's got that that that annoying Boston accent that
makes her sound like she's a housewife. Is she have milk
quality or she does Yeah, definitely. You'd think she's
dying. She's definitely that 10 Point milk. Knowing your
standards and I know what they are and he it's just interesting
and but you know it's still
can we just remind people about Chantix? Yes that'd be cool
replaced by the way this is not an ad for the show obviously.
Chantix is extremely dangerous product that is on the market to
keep people from smoking and they soft, pedalled it on these
ads even though the the disclaimers are all in there we
have plenty of documentation including Mickey there at the at
the at the Watchtower command centre who has tried this stuff
and it's it's it's not to be used
it can make you crazy it can make you kill it can make you
kill yourself kill others you will wake up naked in your
neighbor's backyard not knowing what happened not knowing how
you got there.
And that's the only good thing that can
until it says you might have I'm just guessing that they'll say
you might have some crazy dreams oh yeah the dream and the only
way to get off this stuff is to start smoking again. So if you
are smoking this shit if she's smoking if you're if you're you
can it's better to snort bath salts okay have
changed the pitch a little bit I have to say because I was
listening. They've changed the pitch we're now apparently I
don't know that I'm not mistaken. The old way was you
took the Chantix and you stopped wanting to smoke and you stopped
immediately. This one wants you this new pitch wants you to keep
smoking Oh even better while you're taking Chantix and then
ease yourself off.
Now I think the original Chantix had a similar system but you
just didn't you wouldn't want to smoke no matter why it played
that part works. Anyway. Please, if you're on this stuff, get off
it now light up a cigarette and then just and by the way, I'd
have some stop smoking things to talk about after all code
with my voice and I'm like, Mommy, you'll never ever pick up
a cigarette. They had to quit. My doctor gave me a prescription
for Chantix, a medication I could take and still smoke while
it built up in my system.
Chantix is a non nicotine pill proven to help people quit
smoking. It reduces the urge to smoke. Some people had changes
in behaviour thinking or mood hostility agitation and press
mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after
stopping check. If you notice any of the symptoms or
behaviours stopped taking
if you see something say something Mel Gibson get off the
Chantix
Chantix and call your doctor right away. Tell your doctor
about any history of depression or other mental health problems
which could get worse while taking Chantix. If you develop
serious allergic or skin reactions. Stop taking Chantix
and see your doctor right away as some of these can be life
threatening. Don't take Chantix. If you've had a serious allergic
or skin reaction to it dosing may be different if you have
kidney problems until you know how Chantix affects you use
caution when driving or operating machinery. Common side
effects include nausea, trouble sleeping and unusual dreams.
My Benjamin, he helped me with the countdown ban. How many days
has it been? Five days mom? 10 days mom, I think after 30 days.
It's a new year. So ask your doctor about Chantix and find
out how you could save money on your prescription go to
chantix.com to learn more and get terms and conditions.
Yeah, this of course is the Bonanza period for guys like
doing the Chantix. Because first of January is when everyone
wants to quit,
right? Yeah, no. Yeah, absolutely. It's a dynamite
marketing scheme. These guys are I mean, the product is what it
is. But the marketing people are just on it. Should I tell you
amazing, you
know, making I quit cold turkey. We are now at effect Sunday.
It'll be one month since we've been close. Now. You know what
the only issue is, and I'll just speak for myself because you
know, I can't I don't speak about women like this. But you
get really bloated and constipated when you stopped if
you've been smoking for a long, long time. Like I really Yes, 30
years of smoking and I've been looking online. And this is a
common problem. Because your whole body is kind of in this
mode of the nicotine is processing everything then all
of a sudden you don't produce as many I don't know Gaul or
whatever the hell it is. And it's just it's been atrocious.
Got bloody a God.
Whatever, whatever you call it, stuff in your stomach. And it's
it was really really, really bad. It's finally let's stuff is
starting to work right? Yeah, but this has been a month and
I've read some people I That's funny because I never knew that.
And I've read stories as you know, I've read well, no,
because it's kind of who wants to say that I can't poop. And
let's be honest, anyone who listens to this show knows that
I'm a regular pooper and I probably was the one I pride
myself on my pooping. And now it's like this has been a real
premium you go for like three days. That's horrible. If
somebody gets all bloated and then you know then go into some
ruins. That's my advice. You know, it doesn't matter what you
do if nothing helps, I, I've been reading stories of people
who actually started smoking again, they got so bad, so they
can poop. So they could poop again. Yeah. Wow. But you never
read anything about this at all? Yeah, I started looking for it.
But anyway,
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Yes. So now so after I got that commercial, I ran into an
interesting situation which I think may evolve. There is a I
ran into another commercial for an over the counter drug product
sold, like Chantix and all these other you know, with all the
disclaimers, except the disclaimers in this case is more
of a sales pitch. Because the exact they've decided that this
model of a long boring commercial in this case is
talking about discomforts. Which is like I never heard a word
used like this before but
comfort is like not being able to prove this one does come
first
may be actually about your problem. And it's a commercial
call that what you can see we will play which is fashioned
after the ill you know the prescription drug model and I
find it fascinating that someone would put try to pull this
that's like doing a Bayer aspirin commercial. You know it
done as though it was a dead you know, dangerous drug. Nice. I
began to have several discomforts with my digestive
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So it's clinically proven but it's not an actual drug because
there's no disclaimers. Right? So it's just pooped out.com
stuff.
Yeah, it's just basically a prune ad. But the way they
played it instead of the instead of the bubbly guy,
yeah, well, yeah. Discomfort is very that is a very interesting
use of that because discomfort if you have discomfort, but this
discomfort means you have more than one poop problem.
It's a some sort of you, Adam, do you have discomfort?
I have made massive discomfort although it's getting somewhat
better without the help of any type of medication. It's just
your diet. You've got to adjust your diet. You have fruit and
fruit fibre. Then we all know on this show, John, you care about
my fibre.
I've always cared about your fibre. I'm worried for you.
Thank you. I feel pretty good though. I just was a little
bloated for a month I'm telling ya for a whole month I have an
end Have show clip, by the way, which I'd like to play at the
end of the show, which is John Young of crypto. Now, what about
him? So he actually in this clip, which aired on Russia
Today, it's an interview. And let me see how long it is Russia
today. It's a long clip, John Schmidt is really worth it,
though. He basically explains how leaks work. He was one of
the founders of wiki leaks with Julian Assange.
And so did you. Did you read the article? Yeah, it was sounds
like something I want to listen to. Yeah, to read the article
about somebody who did an analysis and one of the big
newspapers about leaks and that get into the media and that wiki
leaks if you took that into all the leaks I've ever done. It's
only like, less than 10% or something like that. Well,
there's a
couple of things that I read. One is the Ministry of Truth and
PR, actually came out with a statement, which I thought was
interesting. I'm citing from this December 28. In recent
weeks, NPR host reporters and guests have incorrectly said or
implied that WikiLeaks recently has disclosed or released
roughly 250,000 US diplomatic cables, although the website has
vowed to publish to and 51,287 leaked United States Embassy
cables. As of December 28 2010, only 1942 of the cables has been
released. So I thought that was good that they did that, but it
shows you what we need next from them is many NPR hosts,
reporters and guests have incorrectly stated that Don't
Ask Don't Tell has been repealed. That's the next thing.
I'm waiting for them to say. But ain't gonna happen. I think even
even Joe Biden was sending out emails to everyone. Hey, we've
now that we've repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell. lying sack. So
no, I didn't read that. I did read the Haiku leaks. Oh, yes,
haiku leaks. someone's gone to the trouble of making haikus of
18 130 cables. Would you like a sampling?
Yeah, might as well.
King Hammad flatly stated that Bahrain is not happy with Qatar.
That's a hiker? Yeah, it's a haiku there are being seen. They
are being seen as barometers for next year's nationwide vote. So
that's it link in the show notes to the Haiku leaks. But no, I
didn't. I didn't see whatever you were talking about.
So I went there's a clip I got on here called helicopter
parents that we play that the house was a buzz. As I was
making clips last night over this particular this was over
the we have the weekend crew doing most of the stuff on
MSNBC, CNBC, all these all the talking heads, alphabet soup
channels, as all the substitutes and actually some of the shows
are now better, because they're substitutes are trying to show
off.
Oh, yeah, but sometimes I don't have the good technical staff.
So it kind of falls apart at this
date with these guys during the week. Because on the weekends.
Yeah, that staff. They're all they're not always working
weekends, but during the week when the substitutes take over,
they're actually improving the shows mostly. But anyway,
there's this this, this just a report about what Ford's doing
and how it got everybody a buzz about the fact that the next
generation not the generation the millennials that we're
dealing with now, you know, there seems to be no interest in
working or doing actually doing anything other than reading and
sitting around. But then generation after that, which may
be developing into a group that is that is dominated by
helicopter parents. My daughter was mentioning that to her high
school that she goes to a group coming up behind her which is
all helicopter parents children are just basically right now in
the school system in a lot of school areas. There's more
parents you know, they're always said that the irony of this is
of course is that we've always said all the parents should be
more involved. They should be in the PTA they should be doing
this and that now they are and it's ruining the kids can't make
decisions. The parents are all over everything. It's all part
of a system change has been taking place in this little
room. Report on a new Ford initiative. It kind of
highlights where this is headed. And I
remember driving your first car the open road cruising around
with your teenage friends your choice of tunes playing on the
radio. Well forget that Ford Motor Company now not only
allowing parents to control the keys, but the car radio as well.
The automaker announcing today a new feature that will allow mom
or dad to block 16 channels on Sirius Satellite Radio deemed to
mature for teenagers. It means no more Howard Stern or hip hop
nation for teen years. The censorship feature already
allows parents to limit the car's top speed and audio
volume. It even keeps music on mute until that seatbelt is
buckled. All of which sounds okay for safety but had us
wondering what's next? Will Ford give parents webcams for the
backseat to make sure there's no Hanky Panky at the driving
on American John,
that's just an American sickly got everybody chatting this
about this, this phenomenon of helicopter parents who are
hovering over the kids all the time. And the fact that it men
my wife predicts and everybody is in agreement with her that by
the time these kids get out of college, they won't be able to
make any decision on their own. They'll be just basically the
worst kind of slave, I mean, hopeless, you know, they can't,
they won't be able to, to resolve anything, it's gonna be
a disaster and, and the entire system is like working this in,
in the background and as we're like, you know, maturing, and
it's going to be it's going to ruin the country anyway. That's
No, I think you're right. And there's there's a lot of a lot
of evidence to back that claim up. And there's, there's things
happening on the other end as of January 1 2011 10,000. Baby Baby
Boomers a day will be entering Social Security 10,000 a day.
Yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna be an interesting is that
we were gonna say what's gonna break the bank, that's for sure.
Now, now, while we're on this topic of the helicopter parents
and the kids, I was watching one of the Dylan Ratigan show this
weekend, his substitute guy named Matt something they never
said his name. But I've got a clip after clip from this
character, very good host actually set for his voice being
a little high pitch and he doesn't listen very well,
compared to some people. But he there was this thing about the
replay that No Child Left Behind clip. And it's they're going
over predictions for the next couple of years. So this guy
comes on this show on MSNBC. And he's and he's just making these
predictions. And he's, you know, progressive, the network's
progressive. And he says that note, he mentioned that No Child
Left Behind is one of the things that's got to go because it's
been a disaster, it hasn't done anything. And it just kind of
ruined the lives of a lot of teachers. And it's and it hasn't
improved any student's abilities to, to think for themselves or
to think better or to analyse thing. And it's also put us in
this testing mode. So kids are only trained to take tests.
Meanwhile, of course, the guy because he's trying to get a job
at MSNBC because he's the substitute, kind of just pays
almost like shorts out and tells the guy, you know, pretty much
to be quiet.
So we've got six things that we know
are going to happen, right? I think there's a problem with two
of them to no one pays attention to the President's budget no one
ever has no one ever showed it's Congress's job to do the budget.
And then the second thing is No Child Left Behind is the worst
piece of legislation ever passed by Congress of all time. Why do
you saying that? Because it did nothing to make our kids
smarter.
Well, can the federal government really do that? It did do some
things. Last incoming
Speaker John Baker, who John Boehner, who wrote Baker, John
Boehner, who wrote why why
would he go and do that? Oops, what is this? Oh, got a million
things happening at the same time. John, helped me
push through a reboot, hit the hit. Control, Alt Delete,
I don't want to reboot. Okay. So who is it? It's gone crazy. It's
just starting to play by itself. Yeah, no, you don't hear but I
do. You don't hear that?
Well, it's your very low level. Weird.
Shoot.
I can't stop this thing. It's out of control.
This kids is why you shouldn't try to do podcasting. It's too
complicated. It really is.
Okay. So as you can hear the clip, though, right. You heard
the clip?
No, I only heard the beginning. And then when you started
moaning and groaning, he stopped hearing it.
I'll just play it again. Just to make sure. So so we've got you
can hear that? Yeah. Okay. All right. Here we go. So we've got
six
things that we know are going to happen, right?
We think the problem with two of them. No one pays attention to
the President's budget no one ever has no one ever showed is
Congress's job to do the budget. And then the second thing is No
Child Left Behind is the worst piece of legislation ever passed
by Congress of all time. Why do you say that? Because it did
nothing to make our kids smarter.
Well, the federal government really do that. It did do some
things. Last incoming Speaker John Baker, who wrote John
Boehner, who wrote Baker, John Boehner, who wrote it and as
Teddy Kessel child
That's so childish when someone makes a mistake like that, like
make fun of it.
No, I agree. That's the guy trying to get this guy off this
truck really childish, but okay,
personally, he has since moved on.
Well, the one thing I'd say though No Child Left Behind, it
doesn't do anything that really gets us where we need to go on
educational reauthorized when I give George W. Bush credit for
unpacking the test scores of Hispanic and African American
kids because troubled schools or schools that weren't failing In
total used to hide all the test scores of those kids, and now
that's exposed to the light of day, which at least gives
reformers at the grassroots level. Some teeth politically,
to be able to move on on this. Well, these predictions I'm sure
will be good for at least a couple of hours after two weeks.
I think they'll be infallible and we'll be looking forward to
this. Jimmy Williams.
I don't like that guy.
I don't like the guy at all. No, no, you're talking about the
host that jumped on? Yeah, with the anchor. Yeah. No, I agree.
100%, you do run into the funny thing is you never do that. I
mean, you can do that. If the guy makes a mistake and keeps
Danny drives at home. He says John Baker, Ben, he keeps
talking. But he corrected himself immediately. And then
the guy jumped on him for making the full GPA for it. And it
wasn't funny. I mean, if it was something funny, you could, you
could play off. So the guy's a dick. Yeah. So and he has
issues. That's a problem. I agree. I mean, when you say a
good instead of well, you don't correct yourself. I correct you
that's different than you might do it on purpose. Well, you say
that. I mean, well, if you said that, then I wouldn't say
anything. I mean, so that that was a dickish thing to do. So
he's a host that but you could tell that he was like, oh, wait
a minute. This is not part of our checklist. Progressive
checklist. No Child Left Behind is actually a good thing. One of
the few things Bush did it was any good. Yeah. And but it's
bogus. And I had one of these days. And you know, when I
really laced into this, the whole No Child Left Behind his
bullcrap. The entire charter school thing is bullcrap. All
this stuff is bullcrap. To the education system in this country
stinks. And that's one of the reasons that it came up in the
conversation when we're talking about helicopter parents.
Anyway, that's a clip.
Just need to check one thing here, John. Yeah, that part
works.
And one more stuff. You got some,
I got a couple of things. So I get a lot of emails from people
who say, Well, it's the same basics length, and I kept
getting three very large objects in space flying will crash into
Earth in 2012, kind of around December, from the examiner
giant spaceships to attack. And of course, you know, I'm like,
hey, that's kind of interesting. I think I will look into that.
And so it has been very well debunked. I mean, there's a lot
of things wrong with with the story. And I'm the first guy who
wants to believe there's three blue chips flying towards Earth.
You know, I desperately want to believe that.
But there's this there's no this Yeah, you you desperately want
to believe Oh, yeah, well, I
do, I believe, I believe no matter what, but I want these
things to be true. But this obviously, was not and it was
actually it's a very good debunking, which I put in the in
the show notes. It is actually an anomaly on the on the lens.
And I really buy it because you know, the there's no guy at SETI
named this way. The whole thing is wrong. Now, but a lot of
people like emailing that around. However, it's important
that the stories come on now, because we have on the way in
2011. Skyline, the Battle of Los Angeles 2011, Super Eight and
Falling Skies, all great in alien invasion movies, and shows
via of course, also, on the way in the new TV season, all coming
out. So that's why we have to have the stories in the media.
And this was actually sent by Josiah, Josiah Thomas, a
producer, no agenda, who is very alert and says, Oh, wait a
minute, when these stories start to hit, that's usually because
there's some kind of great movie coming out. So we've got five of
them on the way. There is one link, however, I'd like to
mention. And this is a photo that was found, of course
through excellent sleuthing on the interwebs of the Mars
Exploration Rover, which actually has been dead and
they're starting to remove pictures from the NASA site,
which is always suspicious, and they apparently can't reach the
rover anymore. But there's this one picture. It's the rear has
cam Sol 2169. And I swear to God, you can see a bass sitting
there on the front surface of Mars. I'm telling you, this is
the spirit front cam, and there's a bass you can literally
see the bass sitting right there. There's a base on Mars,
and now they're removing these pictures from the NASA website.
So not believing these flying saucers going to hit the Earth
in December 2012. Definitely thinking there's something going
on with the with the base on Mars, which the Spirit rover
photographed. And these pictures are now being pulled off of the
NASA website. Why don't they put the people pull these pictures
off? As Oh,
does it make any sense? Exactly.
That's my point. Exactly John. Make his maketh no sense of
well, I got a transitionary clip. Okay. Play French guy
babbling
All right here we go French guy Bob
cuisine himself and his deputy were very critics against the to
draw nice. And Stefan sings it was it to too many elders? This
guy said, Where's this from?
It's from Democracy Now. Excellent. I love it.
So we have a feeling it was not a priority for the French
authorities to secure a release. And this is the reason why we're
so angry today and why the family of the two stages is so
angry, as well. Hmm.
Yeah, that's what I said. That's that goes out to all the the two
French folks, neither of which live in France that I recall,
who donated the show over the last two years? I think we just
ridicule of French constantly because of that.
Well, they're in their own world, you know, you got this.
Right, which is good. I
mean, it's a nice place to we
have Sarkozy out there saying once again, oh, I think we
should, by the way, the SDR.
Yeah, Sarko is he's off on the deep end with this, you know,
let's dump the dollar. And I think he's, I think he's up for
for being, I think he's putting his life at risk. And I put it
on the no agenda predictions that Sarcos he's either gonna be
out of office, or something bad's gonna happen, because you
really can't do that. Wow, we're not gonna we did only really
well, during this economic time when we can print money. And
since the dollar is the currency, the reserve currency
for the world. Yeah. Laos, us to control the economies of
everybody. We cannot allow us. We cannot not be a lot. We
cannot move from the dollar to anything else. And anyone who
suggests it or promotes it, or anything, yeah. Is up for a
vote.
That's not entirely true. Because this has been part of
the G 20. Initiative for a while.
That's only it just just lip service. But there's nobody
serious about it.
Well, but yeah, like circuit likes are cosy. I mean, he's
obviously it's lip service from him, too.
But I think it's I think is not approved to lip service. I think
there's a difference. Oh,
really? You think he's just shooting his mouth off? And
that? Oh,
no, I'm thinking I'm just thinking, because this is not a
Situ that time that we can can do anything like this. I've got
a couple of other clips we might be interested in. One is a
series of Robert Wright clips, which are kind of interesting.
Where do I know this name for he's the ex Secretary of labour
under Clinton is now a professor at University of California,
Berkeley, and he's a lawyer. She's that real short little guy
who was actually gives very entertaining speeches. But he
falls into the trap of, you know, of accusing corporations
of wrongdoing in a in a way that is too obvious. And then it all
leads to his concept. And many progressives think this way,
that the only way out of this mess that we have with all these
political, that have sold out to large corporations is to do
campaign finance reform, which Yeah, that's never going to
happen. Because the media is the beneficiary of these extremely
expensive campaigns in the media, what are they going to do
shoot themselves in the foot, they don't make enough money as
it is. And the media is the one who eventually will pull the
plug on anybody who talks about campaign finance reform. But
let's play these Robert Wright clips, and we can get kind of
into what he's currently promoting.
I drink one of the problems. And I don't want to tar all
Democrats with this, but at least some Democrats with regard
to campaign donations are drinking at the same trough as
Republicans, they're going to big corporations. Earlier this
year. The Supreme Court, you remember said in one of the
worst Supreme Court decisions in history in Citizens United
Against the Federal Election Commission, that corporations
are people, and they're entitled to provide as much money to
campaigns and politicians as they want, otherwise, their
First Amendment rights would be a breach? Well, you can't have
it both ways. You said earlier and I agree with you, the
corporations are not people. They're just machines. They're
just designed to maximise profits. If we actually treat
them as people and say that they have first amendment rights to
undermine and corrupt our politicians and our political
process, then we're really in trouble because they don't
really represent America and Americans.
Well, they keep calling them American companies or even
corporate America, but do the so called American companies have
any obligation in America?
Okay, well, this is we've heard this before. Yeah. And I don't
want to hear it again. Let's change the topic. Okay. Earlier,
right.
All right.
Here's one that's interesting. This is the Germans who are
they're having a big debate in Germany and I got this off the
Deutsche Avella Have you listened to all the time?
Of course. Right. You listen to George Chevelle all the time, so
you don't watch it you? Yes, of course.
And this is the laughable profiling debate in Germany clip
and it talks about what's going on there. They're having real
serious debates in Germany about trying to speed up there, right?
They have a TSA problem there too. And they and they want to
do they want to take the Israeli approach, or some people have
suggested it, but everyone says, no, no, no. And they, you know,
and it's never going to happen in Germany because it would hurt
somebody's feelings. Essentially, they're worse off
than we are. And I think a lot of it has to do with the fact
that they're still guilt ridden over what they did to the Jews
in World War Two.
No, that's not.
Not anymore. I lay the clip.
Hello and welcome. Germany's Justice Minister has rejected a
proposal for airports in the country to introduce passenger
profiling as a way of making air travel more secure. Sabina Lloyd
Heiser Schnellenberger says she thinks the idea contravenes
German and European laws on equality. The proposal would see
passengers screened according to risk groups and limit rigorous
checks to those thought to pose a threat. The German Air Force
Association argues similar checks are already in use at
Israeli airports and would speed up passage through security.
With critics of blasted the method is both ineffective and
discriminatory. Well, now our correspondent John barrack, is
standing by our parliamentary studios, John No. When did these
these proposals and these demands come from and just why
are they so controversial? Well,
security has been stepped up at public buildings in Germany,
including, of course, airports, in recent weeks, since the
intelligence services here received information of a
concrete terrorist threat that was some weeks before Christmas.
And, of course, that's involved the airports in further delays,
I say further delays because God wants the snow here has caused
already a chaos in in air traffic. But it's also involved
in of course, in additional costs. And that's presumably why
they've made the suggestion to create profiles and to
concentrate on the more likely suspects.
Now, John, had these ideas yet found support? No, they haven't
on the country, they've been quite vehemently rejected. And I
think there's very little chance that they'll be adopted for two
reasons. Firstly, the terrorist organisations can in fact, use
the system of profiles to their own advantage simply by choosing
recruiting people who do not fulfil the criteria of the
profile. Secondly, you remember, earlier this year, we had a very
heated debate here in Germany about the problems of
integrating ethnic minorities. And there is a strong feeling
that if you create a profile, a terrorist profile that involves
criteria such as ethnicity, age and gender, that you're going to
make certain sections of the German population feel
discriminated against. Worse, still, perhaps some people would
argue that it will be in violation of the German
constitution.
Are they just like six months behind or something? I mean,
at least but it let's go over a couple of memes that are in
here, I'm sure. One, the terrorist organisations are
going to reason this won't work, by the way, although it still
works in Israel. But that's beside the point is, is because
the terrorists are geniuses and they're going to reverse
engineer what the what the what the profiling is, and they're
going to, quote unquote, recruit people who do not meet the
profile. In other words, cheerleaders, Donut makers,
people that obviously are not Middle Eastern terrorists,
because that because they have a recruiting arm, and they go out
and over there, somebody doesn't look like one of them that so
let's get them to join our cause. This is bullcrap. I mean,
in fact that they only guys that they have they have to be you
have to be a Muslim Islamist extremists in the first place.
But now, they're apparently out recruiting people, which is
essentially the German version of the homegrown terrorist issue
that we have here, which is a bogus issue. The other thing
that's kind of interesting to me is they talked about the
intelligence found concrete, they use the word concrete,
terrorist threats for Christmas, which by the way, there was an
actual Christmas attack, which was not reported, except in you
know, I think they reported on some foreign broadcasts of some
out of the US broadcasts, and you can play it it Christmas
bombings did take place. And it was completely nobody wanted to
talk about it for various reasons that you are obvious.
But play the Christmas bombing report, you'll know what
happened.
And staying in Africa, a radical Islamist sect in Nigeria has
claimed responsibility for the Christmas Eve bombings and
attacks on churches in the country which left at least 86
people dead. In a statement on the group's website, the sect of
Boko Haram said it carried out the attacks. Police say the
bombings and subsequent claims issues between Muslim and
Christian groups in the central city of Jaws, killed 80 people
and wounded more than 106 others died when two churches in
northeastern Nigeria were firebombed on Friday.
Yeah, of course, did see this report and didn't notice it.
Weird stuff going on in Nigeria in general. But of course, the
only reporting we get on Nigeria here, as I heard, I think it was
even on NPR. Last night, I was in the car and I heard them
talking about someone getting scammed thinking they were gonna
get $23 million from some Nigerians. All we
get Yeah, well, there's there has been definitely a
suppression of any Islamist versus Christian news worldwide
when they so they kill 90 people or 96, or whatever they get with
additional dead people because they bomb and churches, and that
doesn't get covered at all. But meanwhile, we crank up the we
crank up the security here, and in Germany, and I guess
elsewhere, because they got wind of something that was going to
happen concrete, but it would Google it. Maybe it was
concrete, but it took place in Nigeria, and then they never
reported on it. I find the thing that I find this distressing.
In what way?
Well, then the same way that has been distressing since we
started doing this show where the news is selectively you
know, news selection is based on just finding ways to suppress
the public not giving them any, any follow up information. This
was the maybe this was the concrete terrorist threat in
Nigeria and Africa. I mean, are we always jumping to conclusions
that everything's going to be in our backyard when we hear
something over the chatter that's going on on the internet?
It's the chatter
I tell you. It's the chatter. That's God. Did you hear the new
GX two track by the way called titled chatter?
No. Yeah. Now once I get the long clip, yeah,
right. Yeah. Now that everything's broken, I'll be
sure to be playing all
y'all. You playing anything?
And now, back to
real. I know you've got a real news clip. Yeah. Do you want to
why don't we do that one and then I got a couple of real news
thingies for you.
So I just got this apparently the Spider Man Show is you know,
which is which is financed by Bono. Your buddy. Oh, really?
And edge. The edge. The edge.
They're financing the Spider Man movie,
the spider man play in Manhattan to the tune of $65 million. Wow,
set it up. But the looks like it may have to close because they
sucks. No, because it probably does suck. But because one guy
has been seriously injured. And now the main lead actress got it
got a concussion? What are they do and it's a play there
swinging around on row Oh, and all kinds of fancy shit that
apparently was designed mostly by Hollywood stunt men who
couldn't go and do any of the work in New York because of the
unions underreported, by the way a lot of people say that this
show is so high tech and so weird that the people that could
actually operate all the equipment or were told to get
lost because they're not in the union. So the union guys are
doing all of this and nobody really wants to hear about
sabotage a I think there's maybe they may be trying to bust a
union. It could be just the opposite of what I'm thinking. I
mean, you never know what these things but apparently it's this
at the verge of closing. But this report is kind of funny
because the guy who who reports it actually contradicts his own.
You just you can play it. It's quite funny at the end if
there's a punchline,
the show on Broadway seems like it is just star crossed and now
star left. I mean, Natalie Mendoza? Yes. Well, she's just
leaving it.
Yes, the lead actress who plays the villainous and the show, who
was considered one of the highlights of the show was
leaving and she had a mild concussion from an accident.
There's already been so many accidents, including the actor
who was badly injured last week.
So why do they always have to get the guy who does the theatre
reviews to be so overtly gay sounding? It's offensive to me
at this point. It's, you know, so stupid that we don't know
you're you're a theatre expert, but you have to sound that way.
It's you know, it's
even worse than that. I you know, I was in Florida recently.
There's a couple of really good channels, radio stations that
have really good morning zoos in Florida,
everybody how you doing? Yay.
Wakes you up? Yeah. And that guy they bring on to do that the
reviews of anything is incredibly outwardly flaming
gay.
It's a it's a it's really a stereotype that is insulting.
It's, I'm sure it's insulting to gay people. Oh, I'm sure it is.
It's just insult. It's like, Oh, please, you know, if you know
what if you actually knew something about theatre, and
then I respect you for it, but now it's like,
alright, let's finish this report. It just keeps going down
and down and down. And this is a show that just can't get off the
ground.
Her last performance was on Monday, December. 20 at the
production said she's been on vocal rest since then under
doctor's orders. But of course, she was shaken as well by
watching her fellow classmate get hurt. Then, last week, she
wrote on her Facebook page, that she's grateful to be down to two
nausea tablets and for painkillers per day to cope with
a concussion. I know what I mean, do you think that anybody
would want to go buy tickets now to see the show that keeps
having problems? Well,
it's interesting, because some people in a very sick, twisted
turn to all of this say that they want to see it to see
what's going to happen. It's almost like going to, you know,
an equestrian show and wanting to see who's going to fall off
the horse and say, Wow,
well, I mean, of all the things you could say, like how about
you know, going to NASCAR just to see a cry? He
had the horse but here's the funny thing. He's bitching about
people being sick. Now listen to how he finishes when she says
that nobody does that. Listen.
But there are people that have said that
I never go to see the horse show to see that race when
I was a kid. That was the best part. Really? It's like hockey
you
want exactly Reese Witherspoon engaged
Thank you very much. Yes, absolutely. They
kill it. Wow. Anyway, know he says that it's so you have to be
sick. And then he says the best part.
In my real news, a TV programme brought to you by Discovery
Communications. That would be the Discovery Channel. Titled
Michael Jackson autopsy where what really
Killian really killed Michael Jackson is
exactly what it is. What really killed Michael Jackson is so
sickening. I mean, can we make any more money off of this poor
guy? He's not poor anyway, he's dead. You know what I stop. We
were visiting some friends for Christmas Eve for dinner. And
they have like young kids and they got this adorable little
boy he is just like four, maybe five and he's completely nuts
about Michael Jackson. He could do all the dances and
everything. There's actually a game for the Wii called dance
like Michael Jackson. Oh, yeah. And then so they've taken his
videos, and they've and tonnes of his hits. And then you had
you hold the controller in your hand and you have to do all the
dancing. I mean, all of the stuff just comes out just
they're making so much money on on his demo.
He was the leading moneymaker last year. Yeah, no. Dead.
Yes, dead makes more money dead than alive. That should be a
clue for you and I have an update on our Hollywood whackers
Ronni chasen ie Rodney Cohen, former Soviet spy. This is from
a a new website, which I encourage you to look at called
wicky, spooks. And there's a yet a new theory on why this PR lady
was killed. Sources close to the art museum community in Los
Angeles County believed Chaisson was murdered because of some
sort of involvement in or knowledge of a scheme by police
officers with access to federal fusion centre intelligence to
steal artwork from museums and extort money from donors and
owners. The same sources and this is actually what I heard.
Note her involvement with her client, German film score
composer Hans Zimmer, who has been named as a victim of
illegal us espionage efforts against German citizens. So this
is going deep now.
Geez, this is getting crazy. Good. That'd be a smokescreen.
Well, I liked the idea of police officers trying to well, it
makes some
sense because the guy that was the bicyclist that supposedly
shot or who was killed or committed Oops, I'm sorry,
committed suicide. Police were involved in that investigation.
And it was quite likely that was you know, the, and the how and
the there's been movies on on the police in Los Angeles.
They've always had a sketchy character about I live here from
the valley.
They're great. rupt they're great. I live here man. Are you
out of your mind? A second. Yeah. He was running away from
the scene of the crime. Yeah, you
know, it was a fugitive. Curry we yeah, we got him. Damn, man.
Don't do that. Just Just say it right.
Yeah, no, I don't blame me for being concerned.
I am very concerned. To wrap it up here. Unbelievable. This,
this article that there's a Belgian Catholic priest that
should set off alarms right there. Who is a candidate for
the Nobel Peace Prize this year. has now come out and admitted
child abuse 40 years ago, he abused a an eight year old when
he was a priest and he's still a nominee. For the 2011 Nobel
Peace Prize, and he won't
get it, we won't get
it. But how about we lock him up? Or throw him in a loony bin
or do something? I mean, that's Belgium. This is the home of do
true. This is the the epicentre of the paedophile pedo bear
networks. Well, so what do you expect? It's just horrible.
Nope, it's a shock to you. You're Yeah. Done. Yeah,
I'm stunned that he's no nominated and still a nominee
for the Nobel Peace Prize. It's not a fact that he won't win.
You know what? Crazier, he will win. Let me tell you that he's
gonna win. That's how in their face they are about this stuff.
Hey, watch this. Well, Ivan, when
you sound like Bush, yeah, well,
he's part of that whole plan. It's part of it. Sickening.
So the Afghan war, according to us at one of these talking
heads, as I think we knew this number, but it's $2 billion a
week. It's costing the American taxpayers
really? Now, that's a lot of baby boomers, we could provide
with Medicare $2 billion a week and whose numbers?
Is this the war that that Obama was going to get? Even it wasn't
even it? Wasn't he elected to extricate us from these wars by
the all these liberal Democrats who want to end these wars and
the one to get us out? And say, voted to do that. And then he's
just increased, it made it worse. Am I or am I wrong,
this, that if we have not gotten our troops out, by the time I am
President, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops
home, we will bring it into this war. You can take that to the
bank, you can take that to the bank, you can take that to the
bank,
just taking them to the bank. And wasn't the gun wasn't the
first thing he was going to do when he got off his clothes,
Gitmo wasn't wasn't that something he promised he got it
all in the bank? You could take that to the bank wondering I
mean, I'm just asking,
asking questions. No, no, instead, we get the food safety
bill passed s 510. And I have to say very nice of the I think
this is what is the name of this site, natural news.com.
Remember, I told you that this thing was filled with all kinds
of shenanigans. It was really, really bad. They've gone through
more of the bill. And there's just one little bit that I
hadn't mentioned to you about our food safety. And here it is
food
safety modernization, they didn't they throw the word
modernization and
of course it's the Yes, modernization. There's another
zation thing in there. Here it is recommendations on whether
and how to harmonise requirements under the Codex
Alimentarius. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah, it's right in
the bill. And Lynette Codex. Yeah, well, we started on that
in early right we didn't have
one of the first things we did on the show when we started
doing this show four years ago
so that means just like in in Europe, dietary supplements will
be outlawed, you won't be able to have any vitamin D, vitamin C
it's all going to go away
you know the the dietary supplement thing is interesting
because I think there's a there's a secondary intended
consequence there to make people sick. No, I think it's also to
get right wing talk show guys off the radio. Oh, if you go we
were trying to sell a radio show to somebody some years ago and
the guy says look the way it works nowadays again today
you're not gonna get anywhere he says you can't get into cases
the whole business is being held up by people selling you know
weird med you know, phoney baloney snake oil on the radio
one form of like colloidal silver and stuff like that.
Yeah. Or now it's a lot a lot of gold that's a rip off. Yeah, and
you know, not real not going out and really buying ingots but you
know, subscribing to some service and now of course the
thing that's really caught on is this food you know, foods yeah
store horrible Florida for the last 2025 years you know, why do
I want to buy a bunch of food that I want the last 25 years
and spend my money on this? I mean you know come on and jump
in the car and drive to someplace where there's food get
keep your gas tank more than half full and
that's it keep keep some seeds I think the seeds are still a good
idea so we can grow some food
yeah some seeds around but apparently this bill is just the
most onerous thing is going to get there it's going to shut
down a lot of small farms is going to shut down it's already
doing that organic farms is going to shut that lot the
organic people who are all liberals should be up in arms
about this because it's a Democrats that put this in but
you know who's paying attention to that? It's going to shut down
organic milk milk and raw milk for sure those guys you got
already done yeah, that's already the whole thing is
ridiculous. Is didn't want to show my Santo can you be forced
fed? Crap? Well, that's
it. There's actually really interesting news on the Monsanto
front neotame which of course is the the aspartame product has
now been approved for use in as a sweetener. And it goes under a
new name. Sweet toasts. How did they come up with it? A
sweetener for cattle feed? What? Yes. Well, molasses apparently
is used as a feed sweetener. to of course mask the, the taste of
the crap that we're feeding to the cattle. Yeah, because like
your cattle are not stupid. They're like, What is this crap?
Yo, MO? How am I gonna eat this? Ooh, nice and sweet is tastes
like molasses. So now neotame under the brand name sweet house
has been approved as cattle feed sweetener. Yay. 20% cheaper than
the last one. Yeah. 20% cheaper than molasses. It's available in
both powder and liquid form. And it's good for you. So now that's
going right into the cattle.
This is just more reason to find somebody get to it. Find a
farmer find somebody that grows their own meat and then throw
money at them.
We grow meat here bought a bunch
of we just bought a half a cow and it's like, you paste that
like the total price is like a buck 50 I mean, it's really a
lot. It's really a way to save money and get a quality you
know, some quality food because it's organic field you know that
things just grass fed and does not? You don't they're not
screwing with it. And if you're anybody that's got some access
to the rural America you can eat like this and you eat cheaper
and better. And you don't have to worry about being poisoned
this terrible.
Well, guess what? That doesn't include us. We're just gonna get
poisoned. I ain't got any of that down here. I gotta farmers
around here.
There's farmers down there. Yeah,
well, if you Google one for me, I'll go visit him. Right
fishery. There's
somebody right now there's one of our listeners saying, Are you
kidding me out here in Visalia, we got two guys that grow. I
would love
nothing more than to get me a half a cow. Frozen. Well, they
chop it up for me as well and
they get a cut it for it. Well, what do you think you're not
gonna get it? You're not a butcher? That's correct. It goes
to a professional butcher. You tell him what kind of cuts you
want, because you're going oriented toward French cuts or
you want more of this or you want more bones. I mean, you get
you have to tell them what you want. And then they cut the
thing up and then they wrap it and then they forget. Oops. You
shouldn't you have to have a big freezer, you have to buy one.
And then you throw the meat in there and then you pull out
stuff as you need it. Oh, here's a couple of fillet mignon. So
pull those out. And how long can you keep that frozen
forever? Couple of
years easy.
Okay, good. All right. I think I'm gonna do that. You should
Yeah,
somebody down there must not have a clue because there's come
on there are there is possible and it's probably within if you
can drive to Big Bear. Once a year, you can drive out to your
your farm or once a year, I gotta
be happy to just oh, I needed someone to tell me where to go.
I'm gonna go get me a half a cow, a buck 50. You said is that
all it costs? Yeah.
But to 250 Max for a half a cow per pound for a lot of scraps
and stuff in there. But you get it to believe me. It's the
cheapest, it's cheap. It's way cheaper than what you're paying
the cheapest meat you can typically buy. It's like a
Costco where you where there's a lot of you know, Buck 99 299
stuff. It's cheaper. It's just cheaper.
Mickey just said if I want to poop, I shouldn't be meat at
all.
That's, that makes no sense. It
makes no sense, Mickey. Yeah.
Anyway, she said like there's somebody in there and one of our
producers in Southern California has nose has access. They have
the I think I've
just been denied the meat. I think soy that'll be eating soy.
So I my brain will be shrinking,
great rock and brain doing the show mostly babbling
as opposed to right. So end of show clip will be John Young co
founder of WikiLeaks who of course split off after he got
in. After he published a whole bunch of emails about WikiLeaks
and their fundraising. He didn't like it. But it's really this is
from Russia today. It's a very interesting insight into the
leaking industry. And I it's a long clip 11 minutes, so if you
don't want to listen to it, you can always fast forward or just
stop the show. But I think it's highly entertaining. I think
John, you will like it normally lasts too long. But it's a very
good clip. And it's just him talking in an interview
situation. So that's nice. And I guess we won't see or talk to
anyone until the new year 2011. So keep those donations coming.
The five by one donations which of course will be on the same
day as the death and destruction in Darfur, which is great. So
we'll keep our eye on that along with George Clooney and his eye
in the sky. And any new year's resolutions, John, anything. Do
you want to share?
No, I'm
gonna lose another 15 pounds.
Wow. Well, that's a lot.
Yeah, well, I got a year.
Right. Okay. And I will My resolution is to get everything
on the stream all set up and not have stuff crashing. I was I was
almost good today. Almost. Because I got a lot of plans for
no agenda. stream.com for 2011. And, once again, we will have
two shows a week throughout the entire year. Who knows? We might
even get that primmer done one of these days.
Yeah, we got to do that. That's gonna be that's a second new
year's resolution,
lose 15 pounds. get half a cow and do the primmer show. There
you go. All right. Well, John, if I don't talk to you, by then
which of course is likely to be the case. Have a very happy new
year, my friend
Happy New Year to everybody who listens to the nogen all the
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Before there was ever WikiLeaks, there was crypto, the website
crypto.org has been publishing information prohibited by
governments. This includes classified and secret documents
on US soil since 1996. Now, the co founder of that site, joins
me now to tell us more. John Young, I want to thank you so
much for joining us. Now, as I said, crypto.org has been in the
business of making government secrets public long before
WikiLeaks was tell us a little bit about the history and
philosophy of your website,
the site was set up principally to publish information about
communication security, which is the fundamental technology for
keeping secrets. And it grew out of my participation in a group
called cypherpunks, which was also a group where Julian
Assange learned his skills. And so that this group, was composed
of very highly educated engineers, scientists and
technicians who were mostly working for corporations and
government on the technology of communication security. And they
knew that this was going to come into the private market as a
cold war wound down and they want to get information out to
the public about what was coming. So we set up this site
to make that information available from people who had
access to it but did not want to be identified as a source.
Now, in all of the time that you've been doing this since
attracted the attention of the FBI, you've I've read that
you've said that FBI, FBI agents have come to visit you, what do
you think their their surveillance is about?
They use our site to see what's going on. And so that's
something that we've learned about sites like ours, they're
left in place in order to watch who comes there and see what
kind of information we put up. Government authorities run these
sites have their own, and so that then they watch other sites
like ours, we've learned this over time is that the reason we
haven't been shut down is we're useful to them to see what kind
of attention is paid to this material, we think they actually
feed us material to put up as they're feeding information to
WikiLeaks and many other sites that operate the same way. But
in terms of their being able to see everything we're doing, we
know that we cannot keep any secrets about our side, and we
tell our readers, you should not expect us to protect you.
Because we're being watched, and every other side is being
watched, just like WikiLeaks has been watched. So there's no
secrecy on the internet. And we make that clear. That's the
lesson we've learned. And we now try to spread that, that you
mentioned be very aware of the internet, which is a very large
scale spying machine.
What really, really motivates you though, to expose these
secrets? Why is this your vocation? Why do you feel
strongly that this needs to happen?
Well, because secrecy is the biggest enemy of democracy. It
is way overdone. And so threats to democracy are coming from the
inside but from the secret keepers, and that they need to
be exposed that made it become a huge industry. It's extremely
expensive and you can't criticise it, you can't get
access to it. Because those who go inside that world are sworn
to lifetime secrecy about it and they can never Talk about it.
And I'm saying that's a system that is anti democratic, and
it's a big business now 1000s of firms have been brought into it
since 911. Because it's very lucrative. And so we need to
have less secrecy and Congress less secrecy in that presidency,
law, secrecy and all forms of government. Let me
ask you this, though, some of your criticism is about not
vetting information, publishing the addresses, for example, your
home addresses of CIA agents, or detailed maps of government
facilities, saying that this is endangering people's lives. This
is welcoming attacks and giving people you know, details on how
to commit them. And that there needs to be some kind of
distinction between what's acceptable to put out there for
the public and what's not. What do you say to those critics?
Well, I say to those critics, that you're pulling the the
authoritative trick, acted like they know better. We don't pull
that trick. We don't think we know better than ordinary people
about how to judge information. But we know that authorities are
always saying things like you just said, You're going too far,
you're putting larger risks, there's blood on your hands. No,
are you putting lives at risks by publishing the addresses of a
CIA agent at home, this has
been going on for years, and they always pull this, we've
been told by former spies, these are just standard reactions to
this to get sympathy for them, they in fact, will leak that
kind of information themselves. You should know that governments
leak more information all the rest of us put together for
their own purposes. Like what give us an example. Well,
there's a leak secrets. They get lacks, they run operations to
leak secrets to test their own system. Their own disgruntled
employees are, are encouraged to leak secrets and see what
happens. They leave laptops around. So left behind by drunk,
they leave papers around, they put stuff on wiki leaks. These
are all well known techniques to align the public creates empathy
and get more funding. So this is this is a business. And so that
we would like to say, Well, why don't we talk about that? Is
there a better way to do that than to then to deceive the
public about this? What would just own up to it, for example,
at the US military loses more secrets and the other single
organisation but they never admit it? Because they say that
would aid the enemy would want to be candid about that, that
your systems are leaking, talking
about how the government will leak information purposely to
test their systems or to garner more support. Do you have an
example of that?
Well, I can only say that there are schools to train people like
Betty Madigan doing just that on the internet. It's at Fort
Huachuca. This is one of their training syllabuses that we
published. They, they they actually teach young people how
to run the sting operations by leaking information to test the
system. They have something called ATMs and beat teams that
do combat on the internet by leaking this stuff. They've
hired hackers to do that hackers, in fact, are Favourite
Employees now of such groups. And so this has talked about at
hacker conferences about how you get in on this, you can pick up
good money by one big an informant to is running these
tests, systems, infiltrating systems, sending out false
information. But this is not new. This has been going on ever
since I've been a spy world. It's I'll just say it's now the
internet is now used for that purpose.
What does it achieve, though? Well,
it achieves one funding. If you don't have threads, you don't
need the system.
So leaking threats. So then people say, Oh, no, this is
scary. This information that has randomly surprisingly gotten
out. So we need to go support whatever our government is
saying it needs in terms of ramping up homeland security
funding or, you know, breaching civil liberties in the name of
protection protecting against terrorism, that sort of thing is
that what
is the latest one that perfectly matches WikiLeaks? It's called
cyber security with a brand new Cyber Command. And it's just
been given a huge amount of money. It's been in the works,
though, ever since the internet popped up. cybersecurity. And so
if we leaks hadn't invented itself, let's assume that it
did, it would have been invented. Because this is a
goldmine for people who deal in cybersecurity. And don't forget,
most of this work is handed out to contractors and universities
and research institutions. It's always widely based money flow.
And so without that, we would have no defence department, we'd
have no national security apparatus, we'd have less need
for a president or a Congress. So one of the things that's
important to keep in mind here is that this is a deeply
entrenched approach. Now, it turns out, I'm not anti illegal.
I'm not anti government. I'm anti secret government.
But are there some things that you know, for national security
reasons, it's better for the public to not? No, no, you don't
think there's anything
that needs to be more openly discussed? Right now? It's a
knee jerk reaction. I see far too many Cisco people saying
that, and then we need to talk more about what the internet
threat is and what is cyber threat? Can you give an example
and why are so many leads coming from inside the security systems
rather than outside? And why is that happening? Why your system
is so poorly secured that you can't control your own system?
Now that's out there as documented Shouldn't and one of
the ways Oh, you cover up your own faults is to raise a new
threat and blame other people. So that's what we see coming
with Wikileaks is going to be blamed for the State
Department's own failure to protect its own material. More
importantly, the military is trying to deflect attention for
how to Bradley Manning, or whoever it was did this and we
don't know for sure it was Bradley Manning, how did this
happen? This is supposed to be the most powerful, most adept,
well funded military system in the world. How did it happen?
Well, first thing, it's a, it's a sting operation. It didn't
happen the way it said. It has all the earmarks of one,
what are those were an average personal
level employee was able to get access to a classified system,
and he just had this bright idea to take it and give it off to
someone. That's almost a joke in cybersecurity world, because
that's exactly what you do to test the system. But mainly, you
got to help him credibility, that is a real thing. So it's
almost as though it was a plot to do exactly this benefits in
that scenario. cybercom does, they just got a huge funding,
they were having trouble getting it on his feet. And so now they
got a huge fund. They got a huge contractor handing out the
conference I mentioned where NSA admitted that it can't secure
networks was was a business conference to contractors who
won't contracts to help secure the internet in response to the
WikiLeaks threat. And others like it clarify what is cyber
con. Cyber con is a PR stunt by the defence department in the
NSA is extremely adept and has been doing exactly what cyber
con does for many, many years. But because the internet is a
very popular topic, they have broken out a new thing called
Cyber Command, which will deal with cyber threats. But it's
still run by NSA, it's held at NSA, the head of it is the head
of NSA. And so it's just a marketing stunt. And so I think
that cyber threats will probably eventually replace terrorists
that you know, there's been this claim that terrorists are using
the internet to plot attacks on us. So it's a kind of wedding of
the two and so this these kind of accusations about these
Nietzsche congressional people about WikiLeaks bigger terrorist
is exactly part of that pattern. It's a repeat of the red menace
and all these other kinds of fabricated ministers and so now
they now they got a fabulous opportunity to say well, the
enemy is already inside the US they're on the internet. Because
we set it up it's ours and they're they've infiltrated What
about people
that would listen to your take on that and say that just sounds
like a conspiracy theory.
Well, conspiracy theory was invented by the spies no one
knows more more conspiracy theory than spies do. The
national security apparatus cooks up conspiracy theories all
the time, but they put out the story that is just conspiracy
theory, as though it's contemptible. But in fact
they're the ones who cook up the threads that are far more
complex and bizarre than anything we ordinary people
could ever cook up and they get billions to fight it so they're
they're almost diabolically conspiratorial he. So let me
call myself a sceptic, and I'm willing to learn welcome
criticism. I don't mind these terms of being a distant
conspiracy theories. Those are all throwaway terms as Obama
says off my shoulder. Don't Don't be fooled by that. There
are much worse terms coming.
Thank you so much for speaking with us.