If I told her she was spewing all the propaganda, Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak.
Sunday, December 2010. Time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 258.
This is no agenda,
tracking the persistent jet contrails here at the hilltop
Watchtower crockpot command centre and get my nation West in
the People's Republic of Southern California in the
morning. I am the former Soviet spy known as Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where it looks like the weather
is turned taking a turn for the worse. Now maybe not. I'm John
C. Dvorak. Greg Levin, Buzz Buzzkill.
All right. I'm not quite sure what that was. Oh, maybe?
No, I didn't plan anything. I was like, I gotta I have to ask
you write stuff down. When I was like
a really bad zoo opening rule. Maybe the weather has taken a
turn for the worst. RA or opening is the bed in the
morning to you, John,
in the morning to you, Adam and all ships at sea and
all boots on the ground and our human resources who are in the
chat room right now as you do the show live and no agenda chat
dotnet charged up and ready to go exactly the way their
government loves them because we're collecting body parts.
Do you realise he's probably spend more time with that little
ditty on the one sailor who actually listens to this show?
And the two guys that have happened to be in the trench
somewhere?
You know, I wouldn't be so cavalier about it. I have a
feeling that we've got a lot of boots on the ground and I think
we have more ships at sea than you realise. Everyone in the in
the in the Gulf of Aden is like, yo, yo, it's on. You can stop
you can stop.
Get your fishing nets out.
Started fish. The Stargate is opening they're on again.
Come to fish. Exactly. He's got to restock the fish. Yeah, uh
huh.
Oh, my goodness. Everything's beep in here. So yeah,
we have quite a few executive producers for today's show. So I
want to get those out of the way so we can get to the meat of the
show. Well, this
is a good thing. Yeah, well, it
is a good thing for us. Okay. So first of all, we want to thank
our old pal the SIR are a number one patron as a matter of fact,
Steven Pels, mockers from a Juan's Belgium from where
Antwerp oh, I want
but I just want to says on this thing Who knows? I mean, they've
ever heard somebody's moaning about the Pay Pal being
inaccurate with everything. But anyway, sir Pels markers gave
612 10 And he has a note that you're going to read part of
which explains it. Okay.
Sinterklaas couple weeks left in him swiping left in her lashes
when Adam and Johnson hailed. So today is December 4 is
traditionally in Gitmo nation lowlands. The day when all
children put their boots outside for the good St. Nicholas to
drop free heels, steal their boots on the USA. That's what
would happen. Their boots off the ground. No, the good St.
Nicholas. Now that now this is actually kind of interesting,
because I think it's today the fourth of the fifth. Now it's
the fourth right. So the fifth day
is actually the fifth yesterday was the fourth today. The fifth?
Well, I screwed it all up, didn't I? I said nobody. I said
December 4 is December 5. Oh, you
mean at the opening of the show? Yes. Oh, how about that? Yeah.
Gee, what a surprise. So December 5 is traditionally the
day when the kids put their boots on the ground outside.
And, and then the good St. Nick, who rides a white horse, and he
arrives on a steamship from Spain with his black Pete's,
which now has become incredibly politically incorrect. He no
longer has black pizza. I think they've they've written them out
of the script. But they used to be just black pizza and these
plates of Black Pete Well, he's a black dude that you got like
the head Pete. His name is Pete. So the called Pete's black
Pete's, and he got the head, Pete and he and he's in charge
of all the other Pete's and they run around and they terrorise
the children. So if you've been bad, then they hit you with
sticks and shove you in a burlap bag. And take you back. terrible
story. This is what it is. But it's but it's a big party. It's
a big,
my Sorry. Yeah. With all the kids out of the way that parents
drink. Yeah, it's
a big drinking party for parents. Now you got it. So but
that's their version of Santa Claus because they don't really
have a Santa Claus. We have the Sinterklaas who comes on the
steamship from Spain with his black.
Why is it coming from Spain because Spain
used to rule all of the world. It's a throwback. It's crazy.
It's totally crazy, believe me. And of course now we basically
have Christmas in the lowlands. They've probably got Santa
Clauses walking around too. And then,
you know, the funniest thing when you when you're discussing
that sort of thing is if you go down to Rio in December, and
you're floating around Brazil, which is the middle, this is
like the hottest time of the year it is boiling. It's like
100 degrees. And there's all these Santa Clauses with the
reindeer and the well that is
kind of like Los Angeles is weird that way too. And and it
turns out, we're in one of those streets where we have two
neighbours at war. With all house wars with the light stuff.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's right. We saw it happen. We saw
it because of course it does our first Christmas here and we saw
one side like, wow, this guy's got some lights going. And then
on the other side, and now I said to Mickey, yes. Is it? I
think our house is perfect for I think we can do a sleigh and
reindeer on the roof. And Oh, Mickey says I'm totally fucking
up the same story. Well, what am I doing wrong? She just texted
me.
She's listening. Yeah, of course. She's
listening. She's in the car. She's on the way to a meeting.
A meeting. Yeah, Sunday. For God's sake.
She works hard, man. But alright, so I guess I I took all
the romance story.
Well, you could add we can tell the story next week when we get
closer to Chris. Well, I guess it'd be farther away from
December 2, which is I guess when or the third or the fifth
if I don't know the fifth,
the fifth and then title No, man. I'm from America. We always
thought it was and by the way, this Sinterklaas, he's a so he
also wears like a red robe. He's got a robe, he Oh, yeah, Peter,
Hey, kid. He's got a pointy hat. And he's got a big stick.
A big stag got a stick for
big staff for your kids. But he's very thin. He's not fat,
like Santa Claus is very
skinny guy that's more like it. If he has weight, he has pant
legs, to tape to just the bottom of some short pants taped to his
legs.
But it's, it's cute. So actually, and so what the family
tradition is, and this is kind of nice, is you and you all
draw. So the big family comes together, usually not just for
household family. And then you'll draw lots before like a
couple of weeks before you'll draw a name out of the hat and
then you get the name on a piece of paper. And then you have to
go buy something for that person and turn it into a surprise with
a with the poem, which is about that person. But but but you
don't ever really say Oh, this is from me. So you get this what
do you do? This is an office this has been transposed into an
American tradition of doing that in the office where they don't
want everybody buying everybody right? Yes, right. Right. Grab
Bag very, very somebody invariably gets a box of candies
that they don't want. Well,
Well the funny thing is, is there's always some joker who
puts together a huge box, right and then you get this huge boxes
at present. And then you have to go through like wood chips and
modelo box after molasses and all kinds of weird crap in
there. It's hilarious. And then at the bottom, there's like a
like a gift certificate. Yeah. Yeah, but I I'm sure all the
listeners and Gitmo nation lowlands are very disappointed
with my explanation, however, in the true spirit of the
Sinterklaas faced and giving. Sir Stephen Pels, mockers has
supported the show with $612.60 and that is in honour of
December 6 210, written European style, which is also
simultaneously the first downpayment on a dame hood for
his god child, Ruby. Wow, good. And Steven, as far as I'm
concerned, you are Sinterklaas, my friend. It could be who
knows. I mean, we've done that we've run the numbers. He is
without a doubt the top supporter of the show he is the
George Soros have no agenda. Exactly. And he's never ever
asked us to do anything for him ever. I don't think
no, he's never he's he hasn't even asked for a de douching
dongle. She's long beyond needing one yeah,
let me hand him a he didn't need a massive deep news. Oops,
sorry. Wrong one. You've been de Deus. And while
that was that was it that did nothing you do she gave a Jewish
Jewish
there's a de douche and I'm gonna hand out some karma to him
at the same time. You've got karma.
Well talking about douchebags are next. Exactly. We have to.
Thank you, sir. Stephen, by the way. Thank you. Thank you so
much.
Goes without saying Do tailors to weight by weight and he will
be a standalone executive producer along with Taylor
Stewart who gave us four to four to four. From Cal Calabasas,
California and he says he's been a douchebag for way too long
despite good intentions. He's not gotten around he's finally
he loves to show his girlfriend love the in Him love the
combination of lightheartedness and on and on. But he says he
needs karma first girlfriend she had a horrific run in with the
police. Oh, no in Los Angeles. And we all know that they're the
one of the worst police departments around. It didn't
know they're terrible. They're one of the worst police
departments around and where are you living in Adam? Sheesh. It
was scary as hell and is a perfect story to demonstrate the
extent to which the public servants have been brainwashed
to believe we law abiding citizens are the enemy. What
happened? What happened? What
happened?
I want to tell the whole story after the case is one he's
apparently in court here. We're talking about some big money
that's typical of these municipalities. They people run
rampant, they get sued. They don't care because it's the
taxpayers money. There'll be some huge settlement. And it's
too bad. Nobody gets fired. Nobody gets called on the
carpet. Nobody cares, because it's taxpayers. You know, the
taxpayers eat it. And they don't care because they can't keep
track of this stuff. What
happened?
He didn't say won't tell us in for a while. But he's going to
make his donation in two parts. The 120 dot 31 is significant to
the count case, the court case you can probably look it up. And
it's 30393. When added to the first donation equals four to
four to four. I don't know we'll find out.
So do we need to do a douchebag for the loss? No, he needs
it. He No, no. We need a karma. First girlfriend.
Okay, there you go. Karma coming at you. You've got karma. Wow.
Well, I'm gonna have to look up. What one two 0.31 means?
Wow. Geez. Anyway, so that's one of our listeners that's got
their girlfriends in trouble or got in trouble and suing Good,
good, good for her. Mark coolin that we got a couple of
Associate Executive producer Mark. I think it's Colin, Colin
mark. Colin, Colin foolin. Colin and then reason different fan
housing. fan housing.
Yeah, just say it already.
Sandhausen fan housing. Another another Dutchman. 258 He's in
the 258 Club. We have three this week. Oh wow. Oh I see and
Jhansi let me let me your centre classroom get Molins on the
fifth let me be your Sinterklaas. Your life changers
indeed. Keep it up longtime producer here dollar show and
the top of monthly five bucks subscription.
So we're putting him in? Is he an Associate Executive and in
the 258 Club? Is that how we run this?
Yeah, he's a man associated associate producer, Associate
Executive Producer and he's in the 258 club. Yeah, okay.
There's only three members in the 258 Club and there will only
be three members ever. He by the way, he has something
genetically unmodified seeds go to seed care.com Charles Jordan
from it'll walk Sir Charles I believe or Charles I'm sorry Sir
Charles will walk you Wisconsin 258 Happy birthday to Dame Carol
we'll get to that later got your he's the world famous my ties
waiting at foundation bar.com And by the way there is a I
don't want to tell people how to make drinks but there is a weird
Kali how I think the name is called Oh Kali how it is a a
weird liquor made from tea leaves but not the tea that you
drink leaves is a tea i which is someone edible thing. And it's
available it's it's a Hawaiian beverage that that will knock
your head off if you actually drank it. And and it's used as
the secret ingredient in a lot of my ties. So take a look for
it's got a weird labels called Oh, Collie how I can send you a
picture if you want I think you should think about adding this
little tidbit to another
another tip from your friends at no agenda for getting hammered.
Tooth 58 from Captain Underpants in Lake Forest Illinois. His
daughter's favourite series of books finally just see how
we're in this book series called Captain Underpants.
Apparently, for little girls I don't know. I'm putting the
finishing touches on a new bomb detector I'll be selling to the
TSA it uses body cavity anus and sinus holography to extract
crystal clear imagery of bombs in the body.
Nice a worried we're totally busted over
we want to invest. He's currently negotiating with the
current TSA director JOHN PISTOLE to represent us in
Congress. You won't even need him to resign from his current
position which is provided with a separate cell phone so he can
call his own office from outside of the building. Obviously
Captain Underpants has been drinking the old quality. He's
all over that. And that's actually it for today's
executive and Associate Executive producers, they all
came in at a high number.
Okay. A couple of brief PR mentions before we move on. We'd
like to thank Kirk, from producer Kirk from Dayton,
Tennessee now PR associate, who has been able to get the media
assassin logo on WikiLeaks for about an hour. Somehow he sent a
screenshot, I guess he got some ads rotating. I didn't know they
did ads. But oh, it was the Facebook version, okay.
Facebook, show afraid the Facebook something version of
WikiLeaks, whatever. So that was, it was good. He sent a
screenshot. And I think that certainly in these days that
works. Along those lines, our friend from vajazzle inc.com,
has placed has done outstanding work, and has created banners
for the no agenda show in the stylings of Jimmy Wales. And
they are currently running on no agenda. ipe.com They're great,
by the way. You've seen him, John.
Yeah, yeah, I want to use one on my blog.
It's like we're there for a personal appeal. We'd like and
we're gonna get laid out of it, too. I guarantee you. Yeah. I
got a nice picture from Sir Sir Randy Asher the he has the box
filled with the boarding pass lanyards they are in. So I guess
the official boarding passes will be coming will be
forthcoming soon, which is good.
And by the way, we have the 210 1010 coins, Eric now has
them and he will be shipping them out to everyone who ordered
one. And we also are going to make good on our own dime.
Okay, what are we making? Good? Oh, hold on, hold on Hold
somehow. Yeah. Say it again.
We're going to we there's about 20 or 30 people that did not get
the original coin,
which of course no longer exists? Well,
yes, right. Right. Well, well, that's, I hate them. It's
possible that we can have a few more made. Okay, because we're
asking them Eric is doing this, by the way, you should thank him
profusely, thank you. He's been asking the people what they
wanted, they want a refund, which you know, is now that you
know, as do you want to refund them, you gotta do something, or
do you want and you still want the coin. And almost everybody
still wants the coin. Because this coin is like so. So we're
gonna maybe have another right it's still keep it within the
total number of coins is not in other words, you're not going to
run more coins. It's just a coin these guys ordered they didn't
get we're going to have to have made
special thanks to PR associates, SHAN Mei sack, who wrote a very
nice article about us on examiner.com. I don't know if
you saw that. John. No. Title, no agenda makes podcasting
relevant and profitable.
No, but the last part? Well,
he did say he just does talk about our value for value
proposition in the piece, which is really nice. And see that I
thought one line was really nice here. Under I thought was it.
Here it is. Corinne DeVore Act may be the first professional
podcasters to make a living, it should have been in quotes that
are in parentheses, although a very sparse one, as far as doing
a show that is, this is nice. Doing a show that is truly
independent, insightful, and listener supported what he
really does, he does get into the whole light, the whole fact
that, you know, we there's no one pulling yanking our chain,
because we don't take money from commercial entities. So I
thought that was very nice. Then, finally,
and by the way, people should realise that that does make a
difference. Oh, hello. I mean, it really makes a huge
difference. I mean, there's certain things you just can't do
when you're getting money from somebody, precisely because
you're their slave.
Yeah. And then I'd like to say Hi, and thanks to sigma producer
sigma, who has created a bad signal for Linux machines. And I
will place a link to his GitHub project in the show notes of no
agenda show.com The app uses HTTPS to connect to Twitter. So
it's secure in that sense and should be stable, no bugs. And
he's a full time college student finals are near so he says hey,
it's a simplistic little thing, but it works. So essentially,
when I send out the bat signal, now everyone running Ubuntu, or
any other form of, of Linux will also receive the bat signal on
their on their Linux device, which is cool. I like that. It's
a The more people hook into this, the better I think, so We
highly appreciate that. And of course, thanks to our executive
producer standalone executive producer for this episode, sir
Steve and Bill tell smackers Taylor Stewart, Sir Charles
Jordan and Captain Underpants. This episode's Executive
Associate Executive Producer. I'm sorry, Taylor. I've messed
it up state Taylor Stewart. Did I get? No Did I get it? All
right. Yeah, I did. They're also in the 258. Club and Mark colon.
There we go. And that's the one I was missing. Of course, this
is an official credit. And you can put it anywhere official
credits are accepted. With the only difference being unlike
Hollywood, we will actually vouch for you when you call up,
and you won't have to just talk to our secretary, everybody else
out there, you can support us by doing this simple thing
propagating our formula, this, we go out, we hit people in the
mouth.
Alright, everybody saying that I'm proud to shut up. And that's
it for today's show. Really bad in the next week?
Oh, no, not really, I got plenty of stuff for today was a good
week I had, you know, Kevin, the blade, the intern that I've been
able to hire, thanks to the support of people on the show
has been working on the big app show. So I had a lot of time to
do stuff. And I think it's gonna pay off.
I think well, I didn't get that much accomplished. I mean, I
ended up watching a lot of C span got a got father very good
exposition on the Arab lobby, which brought up to
unfortunately, the guy was given long our speech, I've only got a
couple of clips that are worth I mean, I condensed down. But it
just confirmed our normal beliefs that we have here on
this show as part of our I guess, our generalised theses
about certain people like Bill Clinton, for example. And in
fact, I don't know if you want to get into that now or later,
if you have something that's really hot. I mean, I do one
thing I do want to mention at the top of the show, which is
the fact that Ron Paul, came out in support of WikiLeaks, saying
that the truth is the way things should people should be oriented
toward the truth. And he can understand why everybody's upset
about this. Well, there's one thing going on, Huckabee and
Palin, by the way, I want to mention everybody out there,
that when surveys are done with the original Tea Party group,
and they said who should be president, they all said, Ron
Paul, and then nobody ever heard of Palin having anything to do
with the Tea Party. Now she's taking it over hijacked, thinks
that the poor guy, Assange should be tried for treason.
He's not even an American.
So first of all, and I think Congressman Paul is absolutely
right. However, what I took a little bit of offence towards is
the way the message has been changed in blogs and articles
is, Ron Paul takes a stand and supports Julian Assange, that is
not exactly what he did. He did not say Assange as a good guy.
He said the truth is always good to get out there. He said
something very, very different. But it's but every single email
I received about it is oh, you know, the titles literally,
obviously, you can find one of these titles. Literally is
that's interesting. Ron Paul supports Julian Assange backs.
Yeah,
that's true. He was more or less supporting that concept. Yes,
exactly. Exactly. I think he's ever met Julian Assange.
Now. I, you know, um, well, let's just stay on this for just
a second, if you don't mind the Ministry of Truth, because it's
a it's a very difficult topic for our listening group. Because
the whole idea of someone taking government documents, putting
them out there leaking the documents, and there's obviously
some interesting stuff in there, not much that I don't think
we've discussed, or at least presumed on this programme. And
it's turned out to be pretty much confirmed from these leaks.
But when we come down on WikiLeaks and Julian Assange and
say, Well, you know, the guy's clearly being is a front for
either CIA or military industrial complex, people get
confused. And I want to see if I can put this into some context
and actually have some audio that may help a little bit. And
the first thing is when when we say that someone has a front, I
don't think it's actually like Julian Assange meets on the park
bench with the guy with the newspaper handing him his his,
you know, although it could be. It could be, but it's, it's more
like SimCity Okay, so there are people who play the real game of
SimCity or Farmville. Maybe that's an even better example
for you. And, you know, you, you, you plan stuff, you put
your sprouts in, you do your thing. And then people do things
behaviours. And the model of Sim City, you know, says, Well, you
may have too many small businesses, therefore your
economy won't grow fast enough, you need some big businesses,
and you need to borrow money. And they play this and they play
people. And they do it in a number of ways. And I was
listening to an interview with Julian Assange, he was
interviewed by the Economist. And this was an on camera
interview, of course, the interview was completely chopped
up, and it's been edited. So you know, who the hell knows, that's
always you got to be very careful with those things. But
this was right after the first round of leaks, the Iraq videos
and all the documents, about 19,000 more people, servicemen
and women being killed in foreign wars than was reported.
And so what they do with the economist is they have this tea
time and they sit down, they have tea with someone, this is
their list, it's that little cute, cutesy way of
interviewing, oh, we say it's time to sit down, have some tea.
And I want you to listen very, very carefully. I have three
clips here. And it really shows you how it works and what
Wikileaks is all about. And then when you after you've heard
this, you'll start realising that it is all is not what it
seems to be. And you can easily be hoodwinked by what you think
is a purely good move by a group who really stands for freedom of
press, etc. So the first thing and this is an amazing piece of
audio. And I'm sure his, his mission has not changed in the
past few months since the first release. Listen to what he says
about how they how these documents are actually leaked.
And words do matter in this,
how would you characterise the response to the publication and
then has it had the impact that you anticipated?
We can look at two kinds of response, we can look at the
media response and the response by governments and other people.
I think it's still a bit too early to look at the second in
detail. That's still coming out. But for the media response, our
initial publishing group
of guys, now, did you hear what he just said?
Boy, it's hard to understand him.
He says, our our initial Media Publishing Group, he's speaking
of the mainstream media, who actually, and you'll find this
out in a moment, who actually the true recipients of the
leaks, he speaks of them as his editorial. And he, by the way,
is the editor. Everything's about edit, edit, edit. But he
says the Media Group, his media group, that,
that that does, in this case, he's referring to the like the
guard army. Yeah. And
he'll actually say it, listen to this, listen, and listen to how
proud he is of his Media Group response,
our initial Publishing Group of guardian York Times, and Spiegel
pushed very strongly on this.
Our initial media group pushed very strongly on this
extensive editorial space. So Guardian had 14 pages in the
paper to speak on 17 pages. And of course, we had the cover New
York Times as well, as a strong initial acceptance by our group,
the importance of this material, subsequently looking through
today, I see there are over 6000 stories
on this public. So he's very proud of his initial Publishing
Group. And I just think that the words matter in this one, you
know, it's like, okay, so is that what does that mean,
initial Publishing Group? Is that the group that you
selected? Is it the group that you've been in cahoots with? And
he actually answers it? When he talks about what their true
mission is their true mission? Now, this is Julian Assange. And
I think it's really important that you get this. Again, this
is from an economist interview, where they did the whole lead
and where were you? Were you like?
Where was it? I ever saw it. I don't see it on the economist
website.
Oh, well, I have the link in the show notes, no agenda show.com.
You can look at it yourself. It's about 12, about 10 minutes.
And it's it's edited, but it's this is directly from him. So
listen to this, I
understand it when you first launch WikiLeaks, or when it
when it first began. But the idea was that you put stuff out
there and it would be raw material for people to to
comment on or bloggers would seize upon it because they
didn't have their own people on the ground in Afghanistan of
Baghdad, but that didn't work. And that you've had to do this
other thing instead of taking your material and releasing it
to mainstream media organisations.
Do you hear this?
Yeah, I'm listening.
This is probably the clearest example of that. So we still
need people to go through it and do the sifting and make a story
out of this. You can't just do dumping of data on
that There has been our experience, we see, actually
that the professional press has a nose for what a story will be.
Now, this, this goes against everything I ever thought
WikiLeaks was trying to propagate. So what I'm
understanding now, and he continues in a moment is we
tried just doing raw data dumps, and have people sift through it
and come up with stuff that didn't work, apparently. So they
did. So they changed course. And they decided to leak it to the
press, to their Publishing Group, because they seem to have
a nose for what a story will be. And who is this guy working for?
He is he's admitting literally, that he that he works with the
press to come up with the story.
The general public becomes involved once there is a story
once it is an issue of the day, and then can come forward and
help mine the material. But they're not incentivized to do
that, until they see what the story is. And our goal is, of
course, not to just have people reading documents, our goal is
to achieve political reforms through
political reform their political group. And by just hearing this
the wrong way, John,
well, when he says Our goal is to achieve political reforms,
that sounds to me like, like getting the political group.
Yeah.
Okay, the release of suppressed information. And we make a
promise to the sources who come to us firstly, we will protect
them through legal, political and technical means. Secondly,
we'll try and get the greatest possible impact with the
material.
And you talk about your goal being political reform, critics
say that releasing this sort of information helps the Taliban
that the mullahs are, you know, the winners here, and this is a
criticism of what you're doing online columnist, journalist.
Alright, so I'm very careful.
Because are we talking about Nobel Prize winners? Are we
talking about right wing bloc? Well, whoever they are.
So, so now he's like, you know, who said that? You know, some
right wing blogger or Nobel Prize winner? It's very
confusing to me. But it all becomes very, very clear. When
it turns out that they actually edit these documents. They edit
them, then give them to the main Yeah,
no, I think that's that's well known fact.
Well, yeah. But then he says something else is really weird.
Why half the time this is a threat to security. And then
other analysts are saying that actually, there's nothing that
new here and that if you've been following this at all, that you
won't be surprised by, by this. There's just a lot more detail.
What do you think about that?
No, this is just typical nonsense from analysts who can't
actually be bothered to read the material. How do they know
there's nothing new there? 91,000 reports a day Read Only
1000 reports. Even our journalistic team only read in
detail around 2000 reports and stories that you're seeing a
come from that we just see the Canadian press so
they don't actually read all the reports is what I'm hearing
there is not but here
which contradicts the idea that they that they blue lines, here
it is
political, historical, ethical significance and was not self
authored. provided it meets that criteria. It will then go
through a harm minimization protocol harmonisation
process, oh, it goes through a harmonisation pills offered,
provided it meets that criteria, it will then go through a harm
minimization process to make sure that the outcome of it is
not to cause harm, but is in fact, likely to cause a good
effect. Once that is done. We published the entire material.
I don't know. Yeah, I found this very disturbing that they edit
it, they take out stuff that may be harmful to people, what's the
point? And then they hand it off to mainstream media. I just
don't I don't understand how it's supposed to work. It
doesn't sound like this is a big dump of data. It just doesn't.
And then you get these reports coming out. Which was actually
kind of funny. This report hit the wires today. US considered
arrested, arresting noted CIA Asad Ahmed Wali Karzai for drug
running. And of course, we've been talking about Karzai, his
brother for a long time that he's that he's the biggest drug
runner. He owns the Toyota dealership and the plant and all
that stuff. But then you read the actual cable that this came
from? It doesn't say that at all. It just doesn't. It just
says, you know, well, we should sanction people who might be
involved in drug running like Karzai by not taking pictures
with him with officials like Please That's it. That's that's,
that's a resting noted CIA asset. I mean, what you're
reading in the mainstream media is not necessarily a direct
translation of what is in these opposes WikiLeaks, it's just not
and you can look at it I put all the all the source material, all
the links in the show notes.
And by the way, I should remind students out there they can they
should use our show notes to write papers.
Yeah, and a paper should be written about this in and then
everyone's bitching about the government this the government
that But meanwhile, it is the commercial companies like
Amazon, who are trying to shut these guys down, the government
is not shutting them down. It's commercial companies that you
deal with and buy from every single day. Where's the outrage
against that?
So I'm, I'm concerned about one inch of one aspect of the last
clip, and I'm trying to make the association so I was doing some
typing. I'm if I'm not mistaken, the the concept of harmonisation
is an intelligence agency concept. Thank you. And did this
wishes brings because I don't think anyone would use that word
out of the blue. I agree. I mean, have you ever used it?
I tried to harmonise Mickey the other day. You can't Yeah,
well, that's another story. Yeah. Didn't work out. You know,
I still I'm sticking with our thesis that there's a he's
either a frontman or an agent or something. And by might not even
be as she could be, am I six? And the reason I say that is
because he sounds like a guy that doesn't sound like an
Australian. I mean, he still has the basic Australian accent but
he's picking up that British kind of mumbling style of
speech. That is very unusual in Australia. I mean, you don't I
maybe the Australian listeners, we have quite a few of them.
When we wanted to talk about that in a little while. Can can
disagree with me on this, but this kind of the hard to
understand mumbling beneath your breath bubble of Oh, Bob, Bob
Bob is extremely British. And which makes me wonder. I mean,
how is it you know, because we always say everything CIA, CIA,
CIA could not be doing half of anything. Because mi six is
extremely active. And
as the is was an ISI, the Pakistani Secret Service is isI
Si. And the Indian secret the intelligence agencies in India
is extremely active, more so than the Pakistanis, and they
don't get talked up at all. And then there's the KGB, or whoever
they're now called. They had a new name,
that do you know, the background of of Assange, Assange
apparently would have been able to read and there's actually I
put a link in to the My mic is a little weird today. I put a link
into the complete Idiot's Guide to WikiLeaks latest document
dump, which is kind of an interesting document. So
apparently, this guy was raised in a cult like atmosphere. Where
do you hear that? I'm like, I'm crapping out here. Hold on. He'd
like some cult like family. Whoa. Yeah. Where his his steps
northern Sonoma County. No, no. Hello, I lost you. Something
that was very wrong. Hold on. What the fuck? Hello.
Now I can barely hear you. Yeah. Sounds like you're
breaking up. John. I'm breaking up.
I'm breaking up. I'm over Hawaii
you have a loose wire? That's not a Skype breakup. You may
need a new cable. No,
it's not. It's something else.
Okay, well make a note. Sounds like a post production issue
coming up. No.
It sounds like dust in the in the metre somewhere.
Okay, now you're okay. Yeah, we'll
see if it works now. No, this, this called scratching the pot.
And yeah, this this cult place. His stepfather would give LSD to
the kids, and then lock him in a dark room. You haven't heard
about this? Oh, no. Yes. Terrible. Yeah, it was like,
Hey, can I recommend to other listeners to you do not give
kids LSD and lock them in the dark room?
It's not a good policy. I
tell you. It's not the thing you want to do.
This is a very well known story from
wasn't that well known to me? Yeah. Yeah, there was one of the
kids locked in a dark room apparently.
And then and then you see old old pictures of these kids and
they all have like these weird fish bowl like hair cuts and all
that kind of still has. You know, and I don't know. I don't
know much But locking your kids in a dark room after giving them
LSD could disrupt them later in life. Anyway, I actually tweeted
this yesterday, he keeps insisting there's no 911
conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy. The 911 truth
movement is just a distraction. So these holes This, Assange,
what does he got to do with it? I'm just tell I'm just saying.
Of course, all the stuff we really want to know about.
There's not not a single cable about at all cable cable. This,
this turns out to be a basically the closed internet that the
government uses
per Yeah, no, they've shut it down. Yeah. Well, they
did. Because that was one of the main things Robert Gates said is
like, Oh, well, we can't share information and shut it all
down. Yeah.
After all the work they went through to share information.
Yeah. After he gonna share information with us to make
these cables. You know, all it says to me is that these people
should be more circumspect when they do these memos. Yeah. I
mean, if you're gonna if you think everything's wide open, I
mean, anyone who's ever been in a court case and has said,
discovery, knows that you know, anything you write down as part
of the record, as there's going to be found out by lawyers. And
it's just going to be stumbled upon, it's going to be exposed
to everyone. And this happens you with the Microsoft cases.
Over the years, I've, you know, all kinds of documents were
uncovered that Microsoft would rather have not had seen the
light of day, but they've got out, including them banning me,
by the way from something
at the chat room says By the way, they heard him say harm
minimization and not harmonisation. They say harm
minimization. That's what the chat room heard.
Harm minimization.
Yeah, instead of Okay. Well, that could be that could be.
I'll give you that.
Well, let's move on. Let me move on to another. Another member of
the shadow puppet theatre which popped up this week, completely
just fly it flies under the radar, who would you say in any
news organisation is the most important person, John? In in
any news
organisation, executive producers actually in the news
organisation,
like at a like ABC. They just named a new president of news.
Now, would you say that?
That'd be a good one.
Yeah. So would you say that the President of the new staff is
kind of the guy who determines what happens?
Well, he'd be the guy who would tell the editor in chief what to
do. And you know, yeah, he'd be like, he'd be overseeing
everything. He wouldn't be doing day to day. But he'd be coming.
He'd be bringing people into the office when things went astray.
Right. So news comes out. And of course, no one heard about this,
that Anne Sweeney, who's the the Group President of Disney, ABC
Television, named Ben Sherwood, the new president of ABC News.
I'm like, well, that's interesting, because having
worked at a big media organisation, the President is
kind of the guy you know, he's they, when someone says, Adam,
listen, they really don't like what you're doing right now.
They'd like you to change the bullet and just don't say that
because they don't like it. Right. So I look into Ben
Sherwood, who is my age, born February 12 1964. He's an
American author, journalist, entrepreneur. And here's what's
kind of interesting. Ben Sherwood, born in Los Angeles,
California, son of Dorothy and Richard Sherwood. His mom was a
homemaker and arts volunteer, and his father. Special
Assistant, was his father. His late father was a prominent
lawyer, civic leader and patron of the arts. His older sister,
Dr. Elizabeth Sherwood Randall is Special Assistant to
President Barack Obama and senior director of European
Affairs on the National Security Council. Blue. Like, how does
that work?
Just a coincidence?
I think not. I think not. And if you think for one minute that
that is just a coincidence. You're out of your skull.
I agree. I mean, get the Get It Together is not a coincidence.
What is special assistant what kind of she is
me. She's probably a gold, which is probably one of the go
betweens that works between the and the National Security
Council. She is NSC. Yeah. NSC, okay, so she's that she's
special assistant would be somebody I'm guessing somebody
could write me and could correct me. But generally speaking, it
would be somebody I think that's a go between so the she'd be
taken the documents from the CIA and the NSA back and forth to
the NSC meetings.
But he also could find out for sure, he's also I think he set
this thing up called the survivors Club, which is just
for people who survived like horrible not one of those food
things is a no I think it's like addictions and stuff like that.
At its see
survive crime survive molestation survive something
like any of those things could be a possibility.
Now here it is. I think it's a book January 2009. His first
nonfiction book, The survivors club, the secrets and science
that science that could save your life was published by Grand
Central publishing. This is for survivors survivor lists. Yeah,
this the survivor club explores human survival in all its forms
was a time New York
Times bestseller. That is a survivalist book this This is
nuts.
Yeah, this I think Glenn Beck talks about this book a lot,
actually, though.
Well, you know, one of the reasons all the right wing
talkers are now talking about survivalism is because they are
the new sponsors that have come down the road. You know, in the
old, you know, like, it's always been a well known fact that the
only reason that that talk radio is exist the way it was because
of the gold
sellers. Well, thanks. Yeah, vitamin
pills, HGH. And all that now became gold, and then it's moved
on to these food programmes. Yeah, you take a bunch of
paranoid people, and you put them on this food pro, you buy
this kit, and you'll have food for the next two years. Food
storable food, you just store the food forever. And you want
to worry when the bomb hits or when the Oh, and when whatever
bad happens happens. Of course, nothing ever comes of it. By the
way, my tip to people out there, there are there are mailing
lists available, you can get the mailing list because you want to
maybe want to sell to like Mormons, for example, have all
keep one years of food when you're the food in their
basements by some edict. And then there you have these guys.
So you rent these two mailing lists. And if all hell breaks
loose, you just grab the mailing list, and you just check off you
go find these people and shoot them and still, Hey, man, give
me some food. That would be the smart money. Oh, sick concept,
but it would work
anyway. So I just thought it was very interesting. With very
little research done, by the way, all I had to do is look at
Jimmy Wales, his face. And I knew that this guy was a
complete insider with his sister being Special Assistant to the
President. And on the National Security Council. Hello. So
now so we can assume ABC News is now in the bag. Yeah, totally.
Yes. Well, we already knew NBC News is in the bag is owned by
GE, or we're at that's no longer true. Right. But that's well,
they don't is that deal done?
I think that is I think the Comcast deal is though that's
part of what this whole net neutrality thing is about is
they have to like,
figure out whatever the case is that people are still in place.
So I'm still firing people. CBS is the is the is the kind of the
one up in the air. Man. I'm sure there's a connection, but I
haven't found one. So you might get real news from them. I don't
know. You're not getting real news from anybody.
You're barely getting real news from automize thinking. Anyway,
so you just got you just gotta be aware of who's doing what and
who say and what and how things are being released and how
they're being talked about. And how they're being changed in
front of your very eyes. Clinton. Okay, yeah, Clinton,
what you got.
So this guy was his name. That's gonna bring the right pad with
me, Conway. The guy wrote illusia Look up the book. It's
called the Arab lobby. And this guy was on C span yakking away
about his book. And he had he made a couple of interesting
points. And one of them we've talked about on this show, we
know it to be a fact. And it's it's come up in the conversation
a lot. When Hillary was running for president, a lot of people
who analyse he said, Look, the problem Hillary's gonna have is
the Clinton Library. That thing is got like, three $400 million.
Nobody knows where this money came from.
But we also know that they took $0 from admissions in 2009.
Right, they didn't get 10 cents, but they got, you know, hundreds
of millions of dollars. Yeah. So, so play the clip, coy way of
corrupting America. There's about a minute and a half. But
it really kind of tells us everything we need to know. And
I have a little post analysis of this commentary right coming up.
The Arab lobby has done and this is particularly true of the
Saudis is to take a top down approach to lobbying as opposed
to a bottom up that is the pro Israel community has always
prided itself on being a grassroots movement can mobilise
the masses to influence the members of Congress and the
other decision makers. The Saudis and the Arab lobby in
general take just the opposite approach because they don't have
a means to reach the grassroots. They don't have the numbers.
They don't have the public support. They tried to go
directly to the decision makers influence the few who have power
over the many. And so one of the reasons why the pro Israel lobby
is very transparent and we know a lot about what they do is
because you see them out there lobbying Congress in a very
visible way and that the records are all public. Whereas the Arab
lobby does most of its work behind the scenes that you have
Saudi government officials, diplomats, the ambassador, the
king, in particular, going directly to the White House, to
talk to the president, or talking to the Secretary of
State. And often we don't know that these talks are going on,
you had the Prince, Prince Bhandar, the Saudi ambassador
for more than 20 years, who used to play racquetball and tennis
with Colin Powell and David Jones and the top decision
makers in our government, and it was something that the average
person would never know about.
Do you think you'd let him win? John? I think that was his his
wonder about that was his plan. Hey, Bandar, man, you can't beat
me. There's no good, you got to lose the itch. Otherwise, I
won't do anything for you.
That's a good question.
Also was quite candid in explaining the whole Saudi
approach to influencing American policy. He said, basically, what
we want to do is take care of people when they leave office.
Because if you do that, you'd be surprised how nice they are to
when they are in office. So they have the reputation over the
years of taking very good care of former government officials
who end up in very cushy consulting jobs with the Saudis
who work in the defence industry, who work in various
think tanks, and end up making a very comfortable living, thanks
in large part to the fact that they were very pro Saudi while
they were in the government. And this is a very bipartisan
approach by the Saudis. By the way, they do the same thing with
every president, they give money to their presidential libraries,
they support the First Lady's causes. Sometimes they do it
before the President becomes the president. Sometimes it's after
in the hope of showing government leaders, our
presidents even that there is a good reason for them to be pro
Saudi. And one of my favourite examples was the case of Bill
Clinton, where you had, at one point, this obscure southern
Governor went to the Saudis and said, I'd like you to fund a
Middle East Study Centre at the University of Arkansas. The
Saudis probably looked at him and thought, where's Arkansas?
Where do I write them? Where do I send the check to?
And told them? No, then not too long afterwards, this obscure
southern Governor suddenly is the Democratic candidate for
president? And what do you know, suddenly, the University of
Arkansas gets three and a half million dollars for these
studies. Then that obscure governor is elected President of
the United States, of course, and shortly after he's
inaugurated, the University of Arkansas miraculously gets a
check for $20 million for the study of the Middle East. So
this is one of the ways that the Arab lobby operates, and has
been very successful. Right,
so I'm thinking,
really, is that how it works?
Really, yeah, that's why it is so there's so this, by the way,
is the worst form of corruption in this country. I mean, you
essentially, and once the word gets out, well, once you get out
of office, you're going to be set for life, you know, and
that's where we have all of a sudden, you know, presidents
going in, we're $2 million, and coming out with a half a
billion, how does that happen? Oh, they had a lot of donors to
the Clinton Library or whatever. Yeah. Right. So So I'm thinking
that with Hillary, and the fact of the matter is they've got so
much money from the Saudis by now that Hillary really, if
anybody did some bookkeeping, she's never going to become
president. Because this,
you know, that's why she she just said, she said, This is
gonna be my last public office. She was over there, where the
hell was she?
Was she Yeah, but she said that, but you know, that she's not
saying that to the Saudis.
You'd never buy him that game,
knowing that they're going to be able to and I believe Clinton is
as such, you know, as something of a shyster. And he knows that
he can, you know, he's basically gouging them for more money.
Well, you know, you know, Hillary could become the next
president, you know, when
they, you know, you might you might want to consider this, you
know, some more money in the library. You never know, what
could happen there.
My foundation needs a few bucks. Yeah. So, you know, so she's
gonna stay in the game in some way, shape, or form, because
they're basically soaking these guys. But at the same time, this
is like the worst kind of corruption for public officials.
And this guy goes on and on with all kinds of other examples. I
mean, it's just a it's just an you know, very interesting book.
It should be in our book club reading list. The guy's name is
Michael Bard. The book is called The Arab lobby, and it's a very
corrupt situation. There's a couple other things that they're
doing, which are a little more disturbing. You might want to
play I got two more clips. Uh huh. This out of the way you
might want to play the Saudi funded schools, which is kind of
interesting. Oh, yes. Mm. But
I can tie right into this of even greater concern, I think is
that they are trying to spread some of these values that they
have in their own educational system into our education
system. For example, in one school, there was a map on the
wall of the Middle East that was missing just one country. Can
you guess which one? Israel and they had a textbook that taught
that the Jews were conspiring against Islam. And in their 12th
grade textbook, it said that on the Day of Judgement, the trees
will speak to the Muslims and say, Oh, Muslim, no servant of
God, the Jews are hiding here behind me come and kill them.
And it's not just about Jews, they also quote from another
part of the Koran in which it said, the apes are the people of
the Sabbath, the Jews are swaying the unbelievers of
Jesus's table, the Christians. Jews are apes, Christians are
pigs. These are some of the teachings that are very common
in Saudi textbooks. They're finding their way into the
United States. And that particular school that I'm
talking about is not a madrassa in Pakistan or a Taliban school
in Afghanistan. It's actually a Saudi funded School in Fairfax,
Virginia. Oh,
wait a minute. Is that the American University?
I don't know. Yeah, I didn't know. He never says well, Oh,
wow.
Well, this ties into something else. I didn't know if you're
going to bring it up. But I did some research on the American
University and why and they were based, they just moved to 555
Pennsylvania Avenue. But they were based in, in Virginia. And
the reason why I looked it up is because you said that George
Clooney was on what was he on? 60 minutes? No,
no, it was I think it was 2020 2020 with his dad, right?
Yeah.
And you texted me. You said I wasn't at home. So I couldn't
take a look at it. You said hey, you know, Clunies dad looks like
a total spook. And we kind of went back and forth. For a few.
It was like our only contact in between shows. And we're like,
hey, it was kind of interesting. People rarely talk about his
dad. They're always talking about rosemary, which is his
aunt. And so I look up his dad. And he just he just received a
He's now on the board I believe. Of Newseum. Now, do you have
Newseum? Yeah, the Newseum, so I don't what is this newseum
thing. So the Newseum is a part of the American University. And
the Newseum is a museum of news. It's it's truly the the, the
temple of the Ministry of Truth. And it's it's completely funded
by American University and something called freedom
forum.org. Have you ever heard of the freedom for Yeah, I
actually
have, by the way, I think the school that he's talking about
is a is like a K through 12. School in Fairfax. According to
most of the literature, it's private Islamic school.
Okay, well, I think that the point that I'm that I want to
make here is that in the United States, the school that you go
to, when I say school, I'm talking about university really
determines your future amongst the certainly amongst the elite.
And if you look at the American University, John, I mean, have
you ever just taken a small gander at the American
University and what I mean, this is a university it has a billion
dollar endowment, a billion dollars. And then you've got to
kind of look at, you know, who's been funding this? So in 1986,
they started building the sports and convocation centre, financed
by Adnan Khashoggi, a fine Saudi trustee, Trustee of the American
University, you know, of course, have heard the name Khashoggi.
Oh, yeah, he's an arms dealer. He's a known arms dealer. And
then, and then you start to look at all the people that are
involved and have been to the school of communication, which
is a part of the American University and this is really
what what Clunies dad is now, you know, he's like, a big a big
week over there. And you start to understand how easy it is for
messages to get put into the media, because it's all the
alumni. Listen to this list of people who have attended the
American University, School of Communication from government.
Well, I know I don't even do government because that's too
easy. But let's look at some senators represent No, why don't
we look at some people in the media? Okay, yeah, go Neil
Cavuto. David David Gregory, who is now very influential on Meet
the Press. Interestingly enough, Alex Albrecht of Diggnation
that's interesting, huh? Uh huh.
Star Jones. Barry Levinson. Just, I mean, I'd put all the
links in the show notes. And then you look you look at you
look at the speakers. I mean, every single President has
spoken there. You've got the list is endless of senators and
representatives who have attended American University. I
mean, this is the hub. And then you look at Freedom forum.org,
who is apparently funding a lot of essentially the news portion,
the Newseum and the American University and the School of
Communications. And there's freedom forum is completely run
and owned by Gwinnett. Completely from beginning to
end, which of course owns USA Today, they will own tonnes of
newspapers going to advertising. And they're not a 501 C three,
but and so they don't publish numbers, but they have given
over three quarters of a billion dollars to the school. I mean,
it's, this is where my heart just sinks like, well, no way we
can fight this. It's like, no, of course not. Everyone's
completely in everybody's pocket. Everyone's in the bag.
Everyone's in the bag, and then you get Bernie Sanders. Who, who
reports on? I wasn't it wasn't Bernie Sanders. I got a
different report here about Senator Kerry own stock in L
three communications, who do the body scanners. I mean, it's just
fucking rampant, is everywhere you turn every single thing you
look at, there's some kind of money flowing from one guy to
the other. And the Saudis are absolutely right. That's, that's
the best way to do it. Go straight to the guys who want
the money, put money in their campaign fund. And we're talking
like 234 or $500,000 a pop? Yeah, it's from. And I'm
speechless. I'm literally speechless, and I actually get a
little little dismayed. It's like, there's no way we can ever
we can We can't fight this. You can't fight that. So it's, it's
no wonder that, you know, Clooney gets like, roped into
doing this stuff. And he gets pushed around. And then we gotta
go do something about Darfur, Sudan and get to get George over
there. You can really sell it and it goes straight through all
the family connections. We truly have our own version of
dynasties here. And they all run through universities.
Well, you know, Eisenhower, when he said, You have to be wary of
the military industrial complex, a lot of people don't realise
it's very well documented that originally the speech and he
thought better of it was we have to be aware of the military
industrial academic complex. Oh, did he really say that that he
say academic ever said that that was in the written speech that
he was going to say, Oh, really? I didn't know that old academic
out at the last second thinking, well, maybe I shouldn't say
that. Because I'm gonna get you know, there's lots of reasons it
was politically correct thing to do. But in fact, it was military
industrial, academic complex.
Wow. Now, that's news to me. But it makes so much sense because I
just I just started looking at this stuff and I see all these
names. I'm like, oh, forget about it. On it, and I and you
make a great name like freedom forum.org And like, Oh, I'll
take a look at their numbers. You know, their, their net.
Their balance sheet they are worth over a billion dollars.
And the top about us top line. We have nothing to do with the
gannet publishing empire, except that it was founded by him the
everyone in it who's running it is former Guenette everyone,
everyone is from Canet. The whole thing is a setup. It's
like huh, and you know, these are all the people who go to the
Bilderberg conference, and don't report on it where the true
agenda is laid out and that's how it works. It's back to my
SimCity example you just got to have enough people with enough
money flowing left and right and then you couldn't you couldn't
actually determine the agenda you can actually do it
well, we have no agenda now you're breaking up again with
that connection. Okay, there we go. It's yeah, I gotta replace
what do you think it is?
It appears to be
broken I would die can't get up. Okay, ah, wiggling things you
might be better off. Well, it's like your pants on.
It's like Dustin, something in? I don't know why it's annoying.
All right.
So I have a third clip, okay, which is just the this is the
little This changes the topic a little bit. But he talks about
how the Saudis are actually, you know, they bitch and moan about
the Israelis or Israel constantly. But he says their
real concern is Iran. So play the Saudi nuclear
and the other Gulf states are petrified of the Iranians, much
more than the Israelis in many ways, because they're a lot
closer. And the Iranians make no pretence about their designs on
parts of the Gulf. In fact, they occupy one of the islands, I
believe, owned by Bahrain. They're constantly having border
disputes. So the Saudis are scared to death of the Iranians.
But the Saudis also are very scared of how they are dealt
with, that if they don't think the United States will take
action against the Iranians, then they will likely do one of
two things. And actually, they've already done both. And
that is to try to buy off the Iranians, that they've gone and
had meetings with Iran in the past few years, to try to
appease them. And at the same time, they have signed the
nuclear cooperation agreements, and they are likely to pursue a
nuclear weapon. In fact, one of the biggest dangers maybe we'll
want to talk about the Iranian issue more generally, but one of
the biggest dangers of the Iranian issue isn't Iran getting
the bomb, but the fact that if they get the bomb, all the other
Arab states are going to want it to protect themselves from Iran
and Saudis first among them. Wow, is it possible
so, really, that's it? Yes. thing that that does kind of
backup what? At least some of the media is reporting about the
WikiLeaks cables. I downloaded that whole archive and it's like
you can't open it is there some trick to opening something
about the whole thing is fishy. I couldn't even download I got I
got I
got a torrent I got the torrent I was able to download it
because
I never got the toward it said that torrent couldn't be had I'm
thinking wait a minute, torrents always if we're too busy. I'm
thinking Wait, wait, the way the architecture of torrents is the
busier you are, the better, better they work. Well, I
got the torrent within like, seconds. That was no problem.
But then it's like in this weird format. It's not a zip file. I
mean, there must be some way to open it or something. Somebody
will know. Yeah. Oh, someone's so anyway.
Yeah. So they the thing he talks about the fact that the Saudis
have always are really big. I mean, they're the number one
financiers of all terrorism. Yeah. This man he says veiled
threats. He says, he says it's possible that you know, that
fact that everybody was a Saudi in the 911 situation, that the
Saudis were literally be not just behind it in a in a kind of
an oddball way, but actually behind it, thinking that they're
there because they do this as if you don't do what they want.
Because after all, they've given you hundreds of millions of
dollars for whatever your library or whatever you're
doing. Right,
right. Oh, really, son, I let you win it at racquetball. And
now you do this. Okay. So we'll show you what we can do.
So the Saudis are bad actors is generally speaking in this
regard. Right.
So and by the way, that's not the people of Saudi Arabia, it's
the royal family.
Those are the people took over and they you know, they're
they're asking for nothing but trouble. I mean, they've,
they've created this this offshoot Wahhabi ism in the,
amongst their Muslim population, which is extremely, you know,
rigid, it's like many of the precepts are like, you know, you
don't want to own anything. That's expensive. Right? Because
that's bad. So you know, they try to keep the people like, Oh,
you have a painting No, no, no, you don't want to own a
painting. You don't want to have anything it's it's pretentious.
So they you know, they get to people in some situation but but
it's so strict and rigid that they people obviously see what
the royal family is doing and they're spending like crazy they
got private jets they don't wear the you know, the Babushka all
the time and you know, so they wanted these days it's going to
be a mess over there. Apparently
the file is stored in seven zip format, which I've not heard
seven zip seven zip you familiar with that? Nope, no? Okay, well,
listen, I guess I couldn't figure it out now. Sure. I can
figure it out. Yeah, cuz I got time I you know, I read all this
stuff. Like yeah, is
let us know what you find. Yeah, because airily according to
Assange, you know, he releases all this stuff and nobody gives
a crap
right? I do. I love it it but of course, it may
be months.
So anyway, so all this money rolling around through the
school of communication, the Saudis into Capitol Hill and And
meanwhile, oh, by the way, I might want to point out George
Soros just did a generous donation of $1.8 million to our
national treasure, NPR who gladly took the money, of
course. And he actually stipulated it was to hire 100
journalists. I wonder if he handed the list and here they
are. And here's the journalist you might want to consider.
More, more fine, which of course, no one's up in arms
about. So besides Amazon, shutting off your beloved Wiki
Leaks Pay Pal is now refusing to pass on money. So how long
before we get screwed? John, how long before the Pay Pal shuts
off?
We're still under the radar. Yeah. I mean, we had the kind of
profile that WikiLeaks had. For one thing we'd have we'd get so
much money right off the bat that we probably could coast but
we'd be coasting mud up.
There's no coasting going on at the moment. I know. As a
reminder when mentioned to people, in fact, we should
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There's a lot of online tests that people can take and they
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Okay. Snowden his wife up there? I think all they do is just have
sex and ride snowmobiles. I don't know why
80 kilometres an hour is the maximum speed allowed for
snowmobile outside our village I've done at least at one ha.
Good but the great work he was has a birthday call out to his
father, by the way I've snowmobiles in northern Finland.
And what's interesting about those speed limits is that they
have like it was like small freeway for snowmobiles and
there are cops on snowmobiles with red lights and sirens
positioned along the way.
Behind signs.
It's unbelievable.
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So to like I got three things or four things really. So one, I'm
putting in the show notes link to the Food Safety Act. S 510.
Because yeah, we talked about it yesterday, last week. And you
said well, I thought it was all the FDA dude, if you just if you
open it up in like in a PDF reader and search for Homeland
Security. It every every single paragraph says the the Secretary
of Agriculture and Department of Homeland Security is like
they're married. Now. They are one
their homeland secure. I was looking at listening to old
clips. And in fact, they have a couple old clips I want to play
because one of one or two of them are quite interesting. You
know, you go back and you hear some of this stuff a year later.
And it's like, oh, but I have a clip that I didn't really
capture. But it it mentions that Homeland Security you with the
size of the act of people in the field that are actually doing
law enforcement. 300,000 It's the same as the US Marine Corps.
Well, isn't that what Obama promised? Didn't you promise we
would have I'm thinking Obama promised a you know, a secret
police or domestic police.
I think the quote is a security force as large as our armed
forces. And the TSA is is quite possibly the new brown shirt.
They're certainly
dominant white possibly they are the new brown shirts. It just,
you know, nobody's complaining about it. Of course, you know,
we haven't seen them start to kill people. Although they you
know, molesting when they
start handing out guns to the TSA, the badges were first when
they start handing out guns, then you know, we're really in
trouble.
Yeah, the badges are bad enough because they're not really law
enforcement people. They're the police departments around the
country. And you know, this is another reason why that
nullification books. So important. We hit these states
have got to show some backbone, because they're just letting the
federal government run roughshod over them. And then, you know,
essentially, it's a disservice to the to the public of your
states. To let this continue. I mean, the only safe states now
are just a, you know, a few like Wyoming,
you know, there was a president met with the Council of
governors remember I read I found that executive order where
he put together the Council of governors. And this is like it's
not just a drinking club. Okay. This is it's something that we
don't quite understand a lot of the conspiracy groups online, of
which I'm a member of many said, Oh, this is it, you know,
martial law is coming to they met with the President, there's
actually video of him and Biden, you know, talking to him. But
Governor elect because I guess they all go into office at the
beginning of the year, Bill Haslam. And where's he of?
Where's Haslam from? I can't find it. He made a statement.
Oh, I guess he's from Tennessee. He made a statement to the
Tennessee in, which I will say is, is a fine publication. And
he said that what was it was very interesting day. He said
there were many presentations. Amongst them Secretary of Health
and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, who were not a big fan
of Education Secretary Arne Duncan, and Homeland Security
Secretary Janet Napolitano. Now I do not have this quote
anywhere even though I scoured the C span library could not
find it. According to Haslam, Governor elect Tennessee. She
said quote, count on something happening while you are
governor.
What is that suppose to me?
Well, this is what I'd like to know. I don't like it. It
doesn't sound very fun. Count on something happening while you
are governor? I mean, is that like a just a foregone
conclusion like, hey, there's always something going on?
Or maybe she didn't get some money from the Saudis? Or was it
what do we have something planned? You know, it's just
really got some planned. In fact, something planned is kind
of interesting because it leads into if you're not if you're
kind of finished with that thought I have the I have the
something planned is a couple of clips I found in the library
that I want to play. But let's and there's two of them. There's
one called mass destruction if you play that.
Okay, and where's this from? Do you set it up? We go right into
this well, now the second one I'm gonna set up but this one
here, this is this was after remember the Christmas bomber,
this there was a whole bunch of a bunch of Senate hearings and
all the rest of it right after during the month of January of
this year, which is almost a year ago. Now. We this is the
kind of news story that was playing in mass destructions one
of them being here, right here. Let's start with your assessment
actually 14 months ago, is
there any doubt in your mind and I'll begin with you Senator
Graham, but either of you that the threat remains as you
assessed it, then that within the next four years, it is
likely or more likely than not that some terrorist somewhere in
the world will use a weapon of mass destruction. If anything,
the odds that we gave a year ago which was more likely than not
have probably gone up in the past 14 months. That is it is
higher than just a straight slightly more than 5050
I love all the numbers I love 14 months the odds 5050 You know
isn't a game by
the way. And we have to remember that they've redefined now
weapons of mass destruction to include just about anything sort
of they're gonna carry
by the I think includes my ass. I mean, I think that it's no I
don't I mean, they had this guy in Oregon, just this crazy thing
that happened in Oregon is weapons of mass destruction. saw
dust I mean, everything's a weapon of mass destruction. If
something didn't blow up a cat.
Someplace on Earth, a terrorist group would use a weapon of mass
destruction
or what is it dude, I can predict that, hey, something's
gonna happen. It's like what right okay,
stop the clip. Stop the clip. Okay, so let's go just take it
to another level, then to the second which is the homeland
attack clip and let this one die. Do you need this app? This
was done at the Senate. This these are our leaders in January
over the end of January very first part of February almost a
year ago. These are our leaders predicting the future. Not with
a bunch of vagaries. But there these are like the head of the
CIA, Panetta, the head of the military intelligence, the head
of the Joint Chiefs, and they get that intelligence go between
guy the whole group is being grilled by Dianne Feinstein and
they are telling us exactly, definitively what's these are
our leaders telling us what's going to happen and when it's
going to happen. Play it. Oh, intelligence to the head of the
CIA. They were all in agreement. Listen.
What is the likelihood of another terrorist attempted
attack on the US homeland in the next three to six months? high
or low? Director Blair
attempted attack the priority is certain I would say. I would
agree with Mr. Molar. Agree. General version? Yes, ma'am. I
agree. Mr. dinger? Yes.
We have all these guys. They're just all pointing to the one
guy. I agree with them. Hey, what do you say, by the way,
great leaders of our country
hinterland.
What happened?
Yeah, well, we had the owner attack.
Stop. No, that didn't count. It was certain that within six
months three to six, actually, it would have definitely we'd
have a horrible attack on the country, the homeland. It was
totally certain. Where is it? It was three months ago, it should
happen. Hey, we're
disappointed. Tammy, I'm
just wondering who these guys why are we paying these people?
Love it when you get pissed off? That's kind of funny.
No, seriously, they're getting hundreds of 1000s of dollars to
give us bad information. Why are we paying them
to give us bad information? Don't you understand? Yeah,
that's our leadership. You know, that was kind of fun. Certain
I agree with him. Yes.
What happened? What he said. So um, has there ever in your
memory, John, been a time when the President of these United
Gitmo States did not do the weekly radio address himself
personally?
Well, I mean, the weekly radio address, of course, is something
No, I mean, it's either they don't do it at all. Or that why
would somebody else do it? That makes no sense.
I'm filling in for President Obama this weekend. But is this
the Leno Show?
It literally literally, it is like, Hey, everybody. I'm Joe
Biden. I'm filling it. He said, I'm filling in for President
Barack Obama. I saw this this morning, because I always I love
watching our president show. It's now known as the YouTube
show. Which by the way, I mean, is it that hard to hold up a
camera with a teleprompter? In Afghanistan? Is it impossible to
do? I'm worried about the security and safety of our
President right now, because he didn't show up. And he's done
this thing in Louisiana on location is not exonerated in
chroma key studios. He does it all over the place. But now all
of a sudden, he can't do it. And then we get to like, the weekend
crew from CNN. Hi,
this is Joe Biden. I'm filling in for President Obama this
weekend, because he's on his way back from Afghanistan, where he
was spending some time with the brave men. And then
he goes on blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, which was just like,
wow, that to me was weird. Weird that he was filling it. But then
he winds it. Because he knows he's not going to get the slot
anymore, because it's just a temporary slot. And let's see if
I can queue it up more or less to what he said
here. I mean, growth by preserving tax cuts now
then he goes, it's a whole tax cut. I was important that he
like tax cuts for the rich, blah, blah,
whatever. It is voted to do just that. Just moved to headaches.
There's no doubt these are tough times out here. It is the same.
Look, folks, there's no doubt these are 24.
Hey, folks, Hey, folks, folks, folks, Hey, folks. He's a tough
time.
We are slowly but surely fighting our way back moving
forward. And we're going to keep fighting and grow the economy to
strengthen the middle class, and to restore the American Dream.
Now here comes that's my pledge to you. And hey, one last thing,
and hey,
hey, hey, hey, slave. One last thing,
since the President will be back to record this message next
week, since
I'm only a stick filling. This is ridiculous.
Let me take this chance to say from my family to yours. Merry
Christmas. Happy Hanukkah, have a great holiday season. And an
even better New Year and a
Happy Kwanzaa
Kwanzaa, salted. He
didn't mention Kwanzaa.
I'm so insulted. And Festivus he didn't mention
this. And the solstice. You know, he's like, he's slighted
me, man.
The pagans. He slighted the bowl crappers and everybody in
between.
So and now here's a clip from the Gitmo nation jewellery
category about this judge in Texas. And I'm only going to
play a little bit of it. It's the whole clip is actually quite
interesting. I'm contemplating it being an end of show clip at
you'll want to hear it. But this is I believe this may even be
from our national treasure.
Well, we also discussed other ways education officials are
trying to keep kids in school. The Toronto District School
Board, for example, is studying the idea of paying low income
children if they come to school to get and get good grades. This
is good. This is a good thing, John.
I'm in Yeah,
I want to go back to school all of a sudden,
using a carrot instead of a stick, so to speak. David Cobos
has a very different approach. He's a judge in Midland, Texas,
and he sometimes orders students to wear a GPS anklet Yay This is
good. This
is Texas all you Texas shouldn't be so proudly. Let's listen in
behind us to track parolees. Judge Cobos is in mid from
the BI corp of course they're expanding, expanding into their
guests are gonna have an annual report. Shareholders this year
we expanded into education
in Texas, good morning, your morning, you get this idea of
sentencing truant teenagers with ankle monitors. Well,
in Texas, there are laws, compulsory school attendance
laws, which require students to attend school.
So damn Damn, slaves don't want to listen, we got to slap
Braylon
kindergarten up to their 18th birthday. compulsory school
attendance laws and simply what I'm doing is in is fulfilling my
duties as a judge to enforce those particular laws. And
I'm just doing I'm told I'm just doing what what the law tells me
to do.
The law is structured that gives me some discretion in in what is
reasonable to ensure
this is reasonable, John, you know,
all these things cost a fortune. It's not reasonable in in my
monetary sense, who's paying for
that, you know, this guy has got to be on the tank. He's got to
be on the take for BI. There's just no way. I mean, how was he
come up with this, this is very expensive programme,
that the orders of the court and state law are being followed. We
do have an attorney general opinion, who has confirmed that
the use of ankle monitors in failure to 10 cases is
reasonable. It's
reasonable. By the way, this guy was investigated by the FBI as
part of a corrupt corruptions probe in 2007. So you mark my
words this guy. Yeah, Mark, my word, but it's reasonable to
this has been approved by lawmakers that
I have to assume that whoever was interviewing him knew this,
and they would have brought this up,
please is our national treasure.
And I started using them before or State Attorney General was
asked on my wife.
Whether that was reasonable, because as a judge, I determined
that it was in how I got the idea is we have a pretrial
office here, which if an individual is unable to bond out
of jail because they don't have the financial means. The county
has a programme whereby they will put a bond at a reduced
rate for the defendant to bond out so therefore we're not
overcrowding our jails.
I'm sorry, it's CBC, not NPR. Well, another Gitmo nation
states they get Canadian version at and
they use GPS monitors. And so I just got together with a pre
trial people ask them if I could borrow a couple of those
monitors.
Hey, you got some bracelets, you got some jewellery from me, I
want to borrow a couple's for,
for a test. And I installed them on a couple young people
installed them. I installed them on a couple of punks
are having problems at home,
running away. They're running away. So they run away. We had a
beat up at home. You know, now you must make sure they stay
there. Yeah. And it worked. Success.
And so what does the monitor actually do? Well,
this is this is journalism in Canada. So what does the GPS
ankle bracelet monitor actually do?
Well, it tells us their location. For example, if a
person is down, take notes, ironically, skipping school,
then we placed a monitor on him. For example, if they're at home,
and they're supposed to be at school between 730 and three,
then we get an alert 730
and three 730. Really early, where are the parents and all of
this? Where is it? Where are the where's the outrage about this?
This is this is not barred
that they're that they're outside of the prescribed zone.
And therefore we can hone in
the zone, the zone,
the zone, the Gitmo zone,
or send the troops of the cost of the troops
in the troops. I'm saving this for end of show clip. This is
too good. It just goes on and on. The guy is phenomenal. The
troops I'm sending in the troops. Oh my goodness. All
right now I have something very serious to discuss. Because I
have been doing my research and in the opening of the show where
I misstated that today is December 4. You know that part?
Where it's actually December 5. There's a I'm not a
wait, wait, stop. You can go back and do a post production.
So as I'm Adam curry today is December if
no, I'm not going to do that. And that's we don't edit. We
don't edit the show. That's the beauty of it. Otherwise, you
might as well just call us the Economist. So, not a huge fan
of, of the Alex Jones organisation, although I do
listen quite frequently because I love the guests that he has
on. However, there's this guy this Alex Berman Burma's, I
think his name is he's, uh, he I think he did. He's done a couple
of the movies for for Alex Jones. And he interviewed. And
so that's why I actually wanted to see this. I'm just going to
bring this up. He interviewed Rosalyn Peterson and Rosalyn
Peterson, who, by the way, does not speak of chemtrails, but
speaks of persistent jet contrails. She has her own watch
dog group called California sky watch, but she was a certified
USDA Farm Service Agency crop loss adjuster, which I think
means as you actually explains it in this interview, she would
go out and evaluate if a farmer was entitled to compensation for
a crop loss. It Weren't you kind of in this area of air
pollution, stuff like that, John, when you work for the
government?
I was in Yeah, but not crop law. No, no, no.
But you you you did do you actually you measured air
pollution, correct?
Yeah. Right. I mean, I didn't go out personally measured, the
engineers did that I was out there enforcing the law
there with the with the troops and the monitors the troops. So
she goes into great detail. And I of course put a link in the
show notes to the to this interview. It's about an hour
and I think you really should watch it. Because she has a well
backed, well researched theory about what some would call
chemtrails and she right off the bat in this documentary, she
says you can't call these things chemtrails. If you do that,
immediately, you're deemed a crackpot. She says they are in
government even known. And this is a government term known as
persistent jet contrails. And I have a couple of clips that I
pulled from this, that I thought were a pertinent to the show
because you know, I'm all over it. I think we all agree that
something is going on. And according to this interview that
and she seems like a very, very smart woman, she seems well put
together. She has a lot of government background,
understands how things work. And she did the research. And it's
all at this California Skywatch. website. And actually, I sent
you the US Air Force weather modification documented, you
have a chance to look at that.
Yeah, I looked at and then I backtracked on many of the
citations to see where this all began, and some of the details
from the past to see what exactly where it's headed. And I
have some thoughts on it. Okay.
Well, let's, let's just go briefly into this because she
says, her assertion, I'll just I'll spoiler alert, which she
says is these are geoengineering projects, which are funded by
private corporations, done mainly by the military, and she
has all the flight paths. And she really did a lot of the
work. And she attended a meeting of geo engineering scientists
scientist, who were actually conducting many of these
experiments. And here's some of what she learned.
Let me go back to 2006. and Nov. NASA Ames in California had a
meeting of geo engineers from all over the world, it was a big
meeting. It went on for a week, and it was not open to the
public. During the course of this meeting, they were talking
about these different geoengineering projects that
they were studying. These were university professors, different
people, and there was many proposals that were put forward.
At this meeting. I was lucky enough to be present at the one
day public event that they had on this meeting, were several of
the scientists and college professors spoke at this meeting
with regard to geoengineering, one of the things we have on
tape, because it was allowed to be videotaped, is that they were
talking about the word geoengineering and many of the
geoengineering in people in 2006 said that they had kept the word
out of the public realm, because they knew that if the public
would, would find out about their some of their schemes of
putting chemicals into the air to, to shooting salt into the
air, all kinds of different experiments that the public
might say no. So they actually admitted that they kept the word
geoengineering out of out of texts and out of you can't find
it and a lot of college textbooks at any lower
level. So I thought that was right there was very interesting
that they would actually admit to that and I would ask all
We'll have our younger listeners to explore their textbooks and
see if that is indeed true. If they can find any mention of
joy,
I'm sure there's no mention of it whatsoever. I mean, the one
thing I turned up when I was looking at this material with a
more sceptical eye than you, I'm sure is the fact that this this
concept of weather modification that goes back to the World War
Two, but the thing that should be emphasised and the one thing
that keeps turning up over and over again, and she even says it
herself, they're experimenting. And they their experimentation
is is is so crazy. For example, there was a hurricane that was
that was moving nicely along the coastline, in 1947. And so these
these weather modification, guys from the government decided to
drop a couple of 100 pounds of dry ice into the hurricane, he
took one of those bomber planes, they could fly into the
hurricane into the eye. And they, I guess, in the way in or
the way out, they dropped all this dry ice and the hurricane
took an immediate left turn and slammed into Savannah, Georgia,
massive damage, and the government had to keep this
quiet. And I think the reason they want to keep all this quiet
is for is the reason that a it's very experimental. And be it was
said in the documents when it was finally revealed that this
happened, they're worried sick, that you know this, the savannah
people are going to sue the crap out of the government who had
caused this problem they believe, and they would have
been liable. So the government experimenting with the public
don't in the public domain with all these crazy ideas. They just
basically don't want to get sued when they kill
you. So here's a good thank you. I'm gonna skip ahead to the next
clip. She talks about the funding for this where it comes
from this, of course, kind of tracks back to my dismay about
all of the money for end, this runs completely parallel with
the Global Warming scam. It's actually
the underlying cause of all of this and some of the funding is
military funding. Because the military wants to be able to
control the weather, the military has got an agenda, that
if they control the weather, they can control any country to
make it do whatever they want. And many documents on in the
weather 2025
You should read this document I've linked to it in the show
notes. It's from the Air Force. It's actually the af.mil
website, this PDF called weather, weather 2025. A quote
from that in 2025, US aerospace forces can own the weather by
capitalising on emerging technologies and focusing
development of those technologies to warfighting
applications. Such a capability offers the warfighter warfighter
tools to shape the battlespace, in ways never before possible.
It provides opportunities to impact operations across the
full spectrum of conflict. And it's pertinent to all possible
futures. The purpose of this paper is to outline a strategy
for the use of future weather modification systems to achieve
military objectives. Rather than provide a detailed technical
roadmap, it just goes on and on and on about how awesome this is
going to be. It's just awesome. It's great. We need it.
There's several documents in which they talk about how it
rather than having some weapons of mass destruction, in other
words, bombs or something, if they can control the weather in
a country, they could actually force them and say, Look, we
will put you in drought, we will put you in floods. So some
of the exam familiar Pakistan.
Experiments with the weather modification and other things
that the geo engineers are doing would mean that they would have
it would be a military application. And a lot of money
comes from the military site sector for this. I've looked at
some of the universities and I looked at the funding chain. In
other words, who's who's funding these because it has to be
public. And we know that the military is also initiating
programmes and paying for funding. So when you look at the
funding stream, you can see that it's private corporation, so you
can see that it's the military. So there's a lot of funding in
there that's not coming from you and I because we couldn't afford
it. And the big military budget is where there's a lot of extra
money for experimentation. So that's where a lot of defending
and then it's it's private corporations who will make money
from these experiments going in and will produce whatever's
needed to do these experiments. So that funding is coming in.
It's like the the crest programme, the CR es when they
were sending up these canisters in and loaded with chemicals to
superheat Well, that was a NASA budget. That's the US Air Force
budget, and then they do ionospheric testing. Well, how
do we know what impact that had on the environment that protects
us around the Earth?
So she she goes into quite a lot of detail because her job was
actually to look at crops and trees and other foliage and
stuff. And this would actually be homework for you. Although I
think she's probably done most To the work, she went back and
she studied all of the acts, I'm not going to play this clip. But
she she studied all of the the Water Drinking Water reports,
which date some of them date back to I think 1970. And it
turns out that there were these spikes in certain chemicals
being in the in California, in the drinking water in
California. And she said, it's not so crazy that you have a
spike from time to time, because it can be from a lot of
different things. But to have a simultaneous spike in Magnum,
Magnum ease, aluminium, burying manganese, manganese, I'm sorry,
yeah, all at the same time is, of course, quite spectacular.
And so you can just ordered the CD, and it's like 18 megabytes
of data. And she graphed it all out. And the spikes are, of
course, you know, this is what's happening, they are spraying
stuff in the air. It's all a part of experiments. And here's
the final clip, I'll play and it, of course, is to save the
children, John, obviously. And
they readily admitted that that was one, two, they want to be
able to continue with their work, because that's job
security for a lot of unit versity professors, three,
several of them as stated, well, you know, the public we're going
to be we're going to be who the world turns to, when global
warming becomes this big problem, they're going to ask us
to save the world, we're going to be the new stewards of the
environment. And our programmes are going to be the ones that
will be initiated to save the world, from global warming or
whatever catastrophe. So therefore, we have to experiment
now, get the funding and experiment now or continue our
experiments, so that we are ready to be the new stewards of
the environment. But the problem is when you start putting up
chemicals, and you start doing atmospheric experiment, you
start to impact agriculture, food supplies, watersheds, you
start to impact everything that we depend upon for life on
Earth. And what happens if their programmes go awry? And when
they were asked this, they said, Well, then, you know, you know,
you're it's just an experimental programme, you know, well, if if
someone gets hurt or harmed Well, so what their attitude was
very cavalier about this. And Professor Benford actually wrote
a programme about the Arctic. And they said in his article, he
even said, Well, if if something goes wrong, why it will wash out
eventually in the long term. And if you if you have to sacrifice
a few people, or an area like the Arctic, so well, then that's
okay. Because it's all in in the realm of scientific study.
Ah, yes, sciences.
So, I've had scientists at work. So I think that's pretty
conclusive. And I encourage everyone to go see that and stop
using the chemtrails word because it just deems you as an
idiot. And I've certainly been at the forefront of that. But
persistent jet contrails, I think is, is without a doubt
what we're seeing in the skies above us, and we're being
experimented on. Well, the
one thing they did that did turn up quite a bit in the
literature, especially in the 60s Was it and then much later,
it turns out, which is possibly the way you could create
flooding in certain areas. It turns out that the cheapest way
to get clouds to form is using carbon particulate in the
atmosphere. And the absolute easiest way to get the carbon
particulate up there is to take a regular jet fighter, and turn
on the afterburners and go at subsonic speeds. And it just
throws a bunch of dirt in the air.
Yeah, those are the black cloud. No, that's what she actually
said. She studied that that's the black persistent jet.
contrails she has different words for it.
But wait and get that do I'm really gonna get that black
smoke out of a jet is by turning on the afterburners at speeds
that don't support its use.
It's like burning shit up.
It's just not it's like it gets a bad you know, it's like you're
just like when you don't get enough oxygen to a flame and
it's all sweaty. Yeah, it gets all smoky. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
Well, not just smoke, but smoke, which specific type of smoke
anyway, so it'll fall there's, well, I find I mean, it's not
just for me, it's not just oh, well, we'll follow it. Because I
think I'm
gonna just oh, well, we'll follow it and move to Paraguay.
Well, you know, it's happening everywhere. This is the thing.
It's like when I when I throw up a picture of a persistent jet
contrail over the house here, which is right over the
Hollywood water reservoir. You know, I get pictures from
everywhere and this it is new. It is something that's been
happening since around 1992. And these are experiments were being
experimented on and no one is being honest about it. They
should just, you know, we should at least have a vote. I mean, if
we all say okay, all right. It's a good idea. You know, at least
we voted about it and we had some honest information.
There's not a democracy. No, it's It's not a democracy. It's
a Republican. You know, there were our leaders, our great
leaders, the one who told us that we're going to have an
attack in three months back in January, something Well, hey,
leaders make these decisions for us.
Yeah. Great leaders. Anyway, PA, I
found a I found that clip. Which one is that? Well, this is a
clip that we're going to save and then I lost. Ooh. And it was
the laundry list that you were talking about the battle between
the White House and his car. Right, right, right. I just want
to play this clip. This is the laundry list of the things that
Obama has done right off the bat, because this clip is a year
old, to the CIA to create part of the bad blood. These are the
actions Obama took was signalled to the CIA to back off one he
restricted the CIA's use of rendition to preempt terrorism
to he closed secret CIA interrogation centre, the broad
three, he banned waterboarding for he's closing Guantanamo five
he ordered captured unlawful combatants to be read Miranda
rights six.
He is trying KSM Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other terrorists
like Abdulmutallab in civil courts with full constitutional
rights 70 ordered hold it to reopen criminal probes and
prosecute CIA officers by harsh interrogations eight he should
know diplomatic de Mosh or protest against Italy for gun
bid for convicting 23 us CIA and military officials in absentia
for rendition agars and eight nine rather that finally he
unleashed holder to prosecute Bush policy makers, like John
John, you for their counterterrorism policy. I want
to speak to that hold on. Oh,
yeah. Well, of course, he didn't close Guantanamo Bay.
No, and I'm sure he backed off and avoided a few of those
things. But that would be enough to piss
off the CIA.
Yeah, seems like a good little laundry list. Yeah,
yeah. So a few things about Haiti.
But before we do that, let's do something light I have a light
for them want to get it out of here? Oh, something you know how
we talk about you know, the cop shows and then they take the one
pixel lation of the licence plate and push a button and then
you can see it clearly.
Zoom in rotate. Looking at the reflection in the mirror. It's
our man.
There's a new one.
No, please don't tell me.
Yes, this is all new. This is a new video trade another new
impossible video trick. This is a beauty. See if you can catch
it. This is from the TV show. bluebloods.
Okay. Hold on. Here we go. Actually, the shoot is Out of
Frame there. Where are you? I'm right over there. Any other
cameras another angle cancel? Oh, we're gonna need to take
this evidence and enhance the video maybe expand the view?
What can you tell us about this guy king? He's out of frame. But
somehow we can magically expand the view. Oh, this is great.
Hey, why don't we do that for the 911 attack of the Pentagon?
Because you know, and the views expand the view, we should be
able to see it. No problem. That'd be perfect. Oh, man,
well, meanwhile, Haiti has gone completely. It's complete chaos.
And so as we uncovered on the previous programme, a lot of
this, a lot of the problem is about the land ownership. And
this is, yeah, this is really coming to a head because I think
John, you and I presume that what's happening is the Clintons
are moving in and saying, Hey, this is a nice spot. You know,
we've had the beauty queens and all kinds of important beautiful
women taking pictures of happy people, but really, they're just
doing land surveying. And so there's, you know, there's all
these camps, and now they've got the root boys, which of course,
are the thugs, showing up and telling people you got to get
off this land or else and we're talking 1.3 million people in
tents are now being kicked off the land. Because this land is
now to be developed by Well, the United Nations obviously. Is, is
protecting the interests who's
representing the United Nations as the envoy.
That would be let me think, oh, Bill Clinton, okay. Right. So,
in this report from The Guardian, a shortage of funds
has been compounded by the delay. So that so what they're
saying now is, well, the money has been delayed because we
don't know the people on land they don't own and, you know,
it's like what happened to the emergency of all this? So in
this article, it literally states of the pledge 6 billion,
only 2 billion has been committed of which only 732
million and not a penny more has been spent mostly to Trying to
put the government back on its feet. So what does that mean?
Putting the government back I think accounts. Well, yeah,
putting it back on its feet means getting the right guy
elected now, on the seventh that will be Tuesday is when they
will announce the winner of the recent elections of which and I
have tonnes of reports here. 90% of the people did not show up to
vote. In fact, there's video from Al Jazeera which I've also
linked to of Haitians ripping down posters of Jude Sela Steen,
the protege of the outgoing president profile the PPP
protege President profile, ripping it down, burning,
burning all kinds of propaganda that's been plastered all over,
all over the city. And and now there's like pandemonium is
broken out. They the Haitians are, are killing people who are
who they claim are propagating the formula being the cholera.
They've lynched 15 People who they say we're trying to spread
more cholera. They say, Well, of course, this is, you know, this
is kind of crazy. A dozen people accused of importing cholera to
a region that was spared, were killed with machetes and stones
and their corpses were burned in the streets. They were accused
of witchcraft related to cholera. So you know, when this
happens, then everything's out of control. People are
completely just freaking out. Now, why is Haiti so important?
A couple of things. Do you know what something in America that
we use every single day? It's kind of out of season right now.
But every every day, we use this this article in these United
States and it's pretty unique to these United States. And it's
made in Haiti. Do you know what that is? John Adams actually
heard this before, but I'd forgotten about it baseball's.
All baseball's are pretty much all made in Haiti. I thought
they were made in the Dominican Republic up well, close enough,
right. Apparently, they're all made in in Haiti. Now this dude
Silverstein, who of course, should be the winner, because he
is the protege of President Pro vol. He and his mistress Tanya,
she shimmy has longstanding connections with the cocaine
trafficking through Haiti. This is this is the thing I was kind
of looking for what what drug is it? And it turns out that it
really is the cocaine industry that's being run through there.
And so this is why Haiti is a very important
listen to cocaine. The was the was the drug of choice running
through Mena, Arkansas.
Yes. Let me think who again is the envoy, Bill Clinton. You see
it all comes back to Clinton every single piece of this so
Jude still at Philistine is of course the protege of Rene
pravasi outgoing president. He is friend his best friend
Reynald bond to feel was arrested during the Aristide
presidency with 53 kilos of cocaine in his car, and like 200
grand in cash and everything I can find points to billions of
dollars of cocaine running through Haiti. Yeah. So I would
explain a lot it does doesn't it? And and when you the whole
thing, and by the way, where's the media? Where it were
Anderson, Vanderbilt Cooper, where are you on all this?
Well, after they loaded his plane filled with cocaine and
shipped it back, unbeknownst to him. Yeah, probably. Yeah, why
would he have anything to do with it? And but you know, all
those private jets going back and forth must have been it's
it's not a bad way to move stuff out.
So the girls in the so these are American companies, by the way
that make the baseballs they the girls that are paid $1.40 a day
and making baseballs is is it's not a good business. It's a it
can hurt children making them also bauxite sugar. What's this
all bauxite? What's the what? What's bauxite and what's the
Sol
oxide is the pre progenitor to making aluminium to bauxite is
aluminium or
do you know what also is made in Haiti? Know the Disney clothes.
Oh, yes, that's right. Disney clothes. In fact, this is a good
little thing here the factory girls gate eight cents and Our
Walmart sells the Pocahontas pyjamas for 1197.
So it probably takes them like two seconds to make one. Yeah.
Fabrics. Nothing. Yeah, that's a good profit. So and it's good to
know that Walmart's doing stuff other than just buying from
China. Yeah. Now that's good. It's at least it's America
because China they pay too much anyway, up to 20 cents or
something like that is eight cents is way
too much. It's way too much. United States of Europe, of
course. And then I had this is my last theory for the day. And
then I'm done. Angela Merkel warned that Germany could
abandon the euro. This is the meme spreading across Gitmo
nation Europe. Yeah, I liked this meme. Yeah, I like it, too.
Here's the to convenient for Russia. Well, this is this is
why I was a little bit suspicious. But how's this for a
theory? So first of all, we give WikiLeaks a lot of credibility,
right with all these cables. And then we know that that Assange
has threatened to come out with news about a bank. What if this
bank is either a not an American bank, but it could be a central
banker could be a European bank. But when what so what happened
in 2008? The bank screwed up. And then they Cheney, Cheney and
Bernanke, they went to Congress with one paragraph and said,
Here's the new law, you're gonna pass you're gonna give us a
couple trillion dollars? If not, there will be pandemonium
martial law and we're all going to die. Right? Was that kind of
the way it went?
Yeah, kinda. I don't know about Cheney. I guess he was involved
somehow.
And they had all those secret meetings. Okay. Yeah, but
they did say all hell is gonna break loose. If they didn't do
this martial
law. They literally threatened some of the horsemen with
martial law. Okay, FEMA camps. So now if, if you are a bank,
and and it's all messed up, and it's all screwed up, but you
basically want to do one last big, mega massive, crazy ass
grab the money. The only way that could really work is if
there was a bank run, and everyone went nuts and wanted to
take their money. And of course, there is no money. Because the
banks to the fractional banking system hold about what like 1%
now is actually in cash. If that everything else is just digital,
everyone runs to the bank and says, I want it now. Two weeks
ago, we had Sheila Bair of the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation say, Well, you know, yeah, we insure all your
accounts. But you know, it may not be there forever. And you
know, kind of like remember the, the cover your ass memo? Yeah,
it's kind
of like, well, we got money, but we don't can't, you know, yeah,
we get, you know, they beat around the bush.
So if the Euro actually collapses, because of some
unbelievable information that WikiLeaks put out there. I think
that there would be a massive bank run in all nations all
around the world, everyone running saying, I want my money,
there is no money. And that would be the bailout of all
mother of bailouts. And that will be the fight just to just
everything implodes upon itself, and the bankers make off with
whatever is left.
And it's an interesting theory,
it's a huge, it could be a huge setup. I mean, this I'm waiting.
All this stuff from WikiLeaks. Yeah, we've we've talked about
almost every single thing that comes out here, whatever, gee,
big news,
but actually thinking right now, yeah, I mean, it's a
possibility. I'm not saying is like, I don't think that's
what's gonna happen. First of all, I think it's going to be I
think the WikiLeaks folks are going to realise that they have
some great blackmail material. I mean, that's what this really
amounts to. And we have nobody's brought up the blackmail
concept. Which is that if you gotta say you have the goods on
the bank says the Bank of America or say it's the Buddha
Buddha's buying, buying bank or the whatever the German banks
called Deutsche Bank, or whatever, you know, and you've
got the goods, you got all these memos. I mean, you know, it
might be a wise thing to do to stave off the release of these
memos with a little contribution if you know what I'm saying.
It's not beyond these organisations to ask for a
Contribution Now and again, I mean, Jesse Jackson is known for
a contribution coming out with the kind of, you know, you know,
you don't like the way you're hiring at your company, you
know, and we might want to make a stink about it, but then
again, you know, our organisation needs a little
cash. Yeah, you
might want to hook us up now that our Pay Pal has been turned
off
that kind of thing. I mean, they haven't done it that I know of,
but it seems the logical next step that people are thinking
not that everybody's corrupt, but you know, it's a corrupt
world. They know what it is. And they see they have the evidence.
So what am I supposed to say maybe,
but you know, this bank run thing I know. It'll be very
interesting to see. I mean, I think something may come down to
This week
thinks I think they, I don't think anything's gonna happen
and they're supposed to be something happening. There's a
prediction for the 11th or something like that is
two things. No, December 10 is when the bank run has been
called for it's already been set up by the soccer star from
getting one nation stinky cheese. And but you know, if you
really want to do something massive, you need to you need
to, again, I'm back to Sim City, you need a couple of things in
place, you need some credible form of information, some
credible source, so that could be wiki leaks coming out with
these guys are all out of money. You need people like Merkel
saying, we're just gonna give up on this euro. I mean, you know,
I
don't know, here's what I'd like to here's what I'd like to find
out. I'd like to find out if the Germans are printing marks. Hmm,
interesting. Just drop the currency and then not have
anything ready to go right at the ready. Right? Right. And
somebody knows, I mean, these printing presses, they don't
crank up a bunch of money without somebody knowing about
it. Because the people that run the printing presses are all
usually union people. And they are you know, they they're
chatty. I'm sure they don't understand what a nondisclosure
is. And they could just say, Yeah, we're printing marks, I
mean, you know,
or you go straight to a cashless society, that would be a perfect
way to do
that. I think that's right now it's too hard to do that. I
don't think it I think it would be very difficult to pull that
off without causing a huge disruption. They have to be
printing marks. They're printing them. Now. If you if you looked
around the areas of you know, where the printing presses are
located, there's just your specific areas you would know if
you lived in Germany, I'm sure. The economy in that local area,
somehow there's a buzz going on or something like that. Right.
That means the presses are up and running. Well, this is a
call out
then to our producers, and I think we have a night or two
don't we and get more nation Deutschland maybe would be very
interesting. All right, I didn't even I out to wrap things up a
little update on the Hollywood whackers. I'm sure you heard
that. The police went after this guy of interest, Person of
Interest who then shot himself. This is in the the public
publicists slaying of Ronni chasen. You heard about that,
John?
Yeah, we talked about in the last show about the guy
shooting.
Well, the police say Oh, well, he probably wasn't connected.
Now you just shot an essay, it shows the cops showed up. He
just shot himself for no apparent reason. But he
wasn't really connected as nothing to see here. Nothing
going on whatsoever. today. It's also really interesting. There's
a new book out, which I don't think is actually it certainly
hasn't hit my Kindle for the iPhone or the iBookstore. This
is about Mark David Chapman killing John Lennon. And so this
book is of course that you know, this is all about The Catcher in
the Rye situation. And this guy was apparently a CIA asset and
they wanted to get rid of John Lennon because he was you know,
he was preaching peace and that was not a good
time. Yeah, it's lame. I don't know I preaching peace. Like
he's the only guy who's ever done that. No, but already is
already marginalised as kind of a nutcase.
Well, he, he was the guy that he was buying billboards. I mean,
he was so what it was back in the day of billboards, we didn't
have internet and stuff.
I'm not buying that in the least. Okay, I think he just a
nut ball. I mean, he may have been assassinated, but I don't
think it'd be for that.
And then the last thing from getting donation Deutschland was
just as kind of a light as topic. But German scientists say
the science is now in kids should definitely be chewing
chewing gum at school. It's very good for you. It stimulates Yes,
it stimulates the brain. What this is it's Fanta This is the
just trying to poison the public is the ministry of aspartame.
The positive effect of chewing probably lies in the fact that
part of the brain is in the brainstem that keeps us alert
and is constantly stimulated as a result of which the attention
level rises as does the flow of blood to the brain. And with it
the ability to learn so Siegfried Laurel, head of the
Society of brain training, and a scientist at the University of
air logon, especially the sugar free variety. No, yes, he says
sugar free. It gets so good. Sugar free transparent is this
bowl of sugar free gum has an added health benefit that it
keeps your teeth clean during meals. Yeah. And poisons you
with aspartame. I mean, it's good. No agenda says do not
repeat. Do not chew gum with aspartame. Do not. It is poison
for you
and talking about that sort of thing. We do have a Talking
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mostly on the fact that the machines are dangerous.
Yeah, and these are just little things you can use. And again,
you want to be very slow and cautious, and you'll learn
you'll you'll strike out a couple of times, but do not get
angry. But you know, we've got some really good talking points
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that you're the same, this is the way the political parties
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Some people say whether you're just as bad. We think the TSA is
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Right. But you will use these with great enjoyment, I'm sure.
But the one that always works for me is the dosimeters. When
you say Yeah, it's really weird. But this is just a practice run,
right? It's really weird. But I, I read that the TSA guys were
not allowed to wear dosimeters. You know, that's what your your
doctor and your dentist wears that little thing. And at the
end of the week, they hand it in, and they check in to see if
they've had too much radiation because it's cumulative. You
know, it builds up over time. And they're not allowed to wear
those. That's really weird, isn't it? And you kind of
question that and you watch you watch people go really? And then
you've got them hooked, and then you've got, then yeah, then
you've got 15 more you can you can unless X
ray machines which people go into aren't run by radiologists.
Yeah, that's really that rare? It's kind of interesting the way
that works. Yeah. And do you think that they'll show up at
sporting events and banks and schools? And you know, and even
if it's a small amount, will all those little amounts add up to
one big amount over time? If you have to go through scanners all
the all the time? I know I just stuff I asked myself.
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Well, we also discussed other ways education officials are
trying to keep kids in school. The Toronto District School
Board, for example, is studying the idea of paying low income
children if they come to school to get and get good grades,
using a carrot instead of a stick, so to speak. David Cobos
has a very different approach. He's a judge in Midland, Texas,
and he sometimes orders students to wear a GPS anklet, the client
used to track parolees, Judge Cobos, is in Midland, Texas.
Good morning. Good morning. How did you get this idea of
sentencing truant teenagers with ankle monitors?
Well, in Texas, there are laws compulsory school attendance
laws, which require students to attend school from kindergarten
up to their 18th birthday. compulsory school attendance
laws and simply what I'm doing isn't, is fulfilling my duties
as a judge to enforce those particular laws. And the law is
structured that gives me some discretion in in what is
reasonable to ensure that the orders of the court and state
law are being followed. We do have an attorney general opinion
who has confirmed that the use of ankle monitors in failure to
attend cases is reasonable I started using them before our
State Attorney General was asked whether that was reasonable
because as a judge, I determined that it was in how I got the
idea is we have a pretrial office here, which if an
individual is unable to bond out of jail because they don't have
the financial means, the county has a programme whereby they
will put up the bond at a reduced rate for the defendant
to bond out. So therefore, we're not overcrowding our jails, and
they use GPS monitors. And so I just got together with a pre
trial people ask them if I could borrow a couple of those
monitors for, for a test. And I installed them on a couple of
young people that were having problems at home, running away,
and not going to school. And it worked.
And so what does the monitor actually do?
Well, it tells us their location. For example, if a
person is, is chronically skipping school, then we place a
monitor on him, for example, if they're at home, and they're
supposed to be at school between 730 and three, then we get an
alert that they're that they're outside of the prescribed zone,
and therefore we can hone in or send the troops of the
constable. And I have a staff of four people, I've essentially
created a probation department within my court, then we can we
can pinpoint the offender and have been picked up and taken to
school.
So some would say that's pretty extreme. What kind of a reaction
has there been to this approach?
Well, I haven't had the ACLU contact me yet. Uh, parents are
appreciative. The young people believe it or not, or
appreciative. I've had some come in and asked to be fitted with a
monitor became an Alaskan. Why? And let's say because it will
help me. So it kind of serves as an electronic conscience as
well.
So under what circumstances would you sentence a student to
wear such a GPS? If they don't ask?
Well, it depends on the circumstances. Number one, we
may have a student that that continually runs away from home,
or leaves the house, then come back till three o'clock in the
morning, we might have a student that is involved in drug
activity or alcohol activity or is just constantly, chronically
skipping school. For example, I use what I call the three strike
rule. Once they get filed on come to court that strike one if
they violate the court's order, they're brought back to court
and cautioned about it and the consequences of violating the
court order. The third time could include some sanctions,
such as suspension of their driver's licence, it could be 48
hour confinement and a juvenile lockup facility for the weekend.
It could be placement of a GPS monitor.
So what are the causes of truancy as you see it?
Well, there's a lot of factors. I mean, it could be a lack of
motivation. On the students part, it could be uninvolved
parents, because we know that child's success or failure in
school is directly related to parental involvement. The more
parent or guardian are involved, we see statistically that the
children have better attendance, better behaviour, and a better
educational experience. On the other hand, parents who aren't
involved, we see behaviour issues, we see attendance
issues, and we see academic issues, as well. So drug use,
learning disabilities, lack of resources. There's a number of
reasons why, why kids don't think that school is important.
And there's even complaints that the school system isn't the best
in the world. And people say, Well, you're ordering kids to go
to a crappy school. Well, you know, the law doesn't give me
authority over a crappy school, or a crappy teacher. I tell
parents, look, you've got an elected school board. The school
is yours. You pay taxes, it is your school. So I suggest you
get involved at the campus level. You get involved with the
school board, and you do whatever you think you need to
do on that part. To enhance the school.
Well, you talk about go you talk about uninvolved parents. Have
you thought about putting ankle bracelets on them, making them
spend time with their kids?
Yes, I have in what I do occasionally is more often than
not, is I will order parents to go to school, to spend time with
their child in school to bring me proof that they're doing
that. Yes.
Do you do that? Does that work? Sure. Does. Sure it does. ACLU
hasn't hasn't gone out for you on that one out of the Civil
Liberties Union.
Nope. I've had I've ordered parents who Look, you're going
to walk little Johnny to class, you're going to sit in little
Johnny's class for an hour, and you're going to get the teacher
and the principal to sign off and you're going to bring me
that proof if you fail to bring me the proof, you're in
violation of the court order. And since you're an adult, then
we'll have a contempt hearing and I can find can find you in
jail for 72 hours plus issue a monetary fine if you violate the
order of the court.
So, but we're not talking about criminal charges here. How much
leeway do you have on criminal charges? It is, it is a criminal
offence, okay?
Is a Class C misdemeanour, punishable by a fine not to
exceed $500 plus court costs for a conviction of failure to
attend school, or parent contributing to truancy.
So how do you measure success? Do you have numbers that show if
we mentioned this based on the daily average attendance of the
school? We measure success by each individual student's
attendance, looking at their attendance prior to looking at
their attendance while they're into the court order and their
attendance following their experience in court. And I've
been doing this for 12 years now. And I started out with a
95% non compliance right 12 years later, we have about a 90
to 95% compliance rate. So we've turned it upside down.
And academically how to how do students who come through your
court perform once they're back in school?
It seems that the majority of them, once they go to school,
and they make the effort, then it looks like their grades are
increasing at least one grade level.
And what level are we talking? We talked
from F to D to C's and B's and nays, and grades. We're talking
from kindergarten up to the 12th grade.
Oh, you wouldn't do this to kindergarten kid, would you do
it to a parent,
the parent has to make sure that the child is on time. ordered
them to walk the child to class. I may have them order them to
sit in class, if we have a behaviour issue. And they have
to bring me proof updated attendance reports. They may
have to get a teacher to sign off on the fact that they've
walked little Johnny to class every morning like I ordered
them to and if they don't, and I tell them up front there are
consequences to violating the order of the court.
Okay, well judge Cobos, we have to leave it there but thank you
for sharing your thoughts on how to deal with this with us.
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