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It is time once again for the
programme many equate to a D

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ticket ride at Disney World. It
contains no frills, none of the

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thrills, no commercials and no
music and to know talents, from

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the manner in Guilford, England.
I'm Adam curry.

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And I'm John C. Dvorak. And what
is now Canada have a dreary

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Northern California.

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Well, join the club, my friend.
We've got horrible weather here.

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It's been bad all week, and I
just got back from Antwerp

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flying through rain and gusting
up to 40 knots of wind. So

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it's bad. It sounds dreadful.

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Yeah, but they have this thing,
which is actually really good.

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Where every aircraft has to have
an annual inspection. And

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there's a whole bunch of each
aircraft, you know, has to go

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through this whole checklist and
things have to be opened and

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replace. And if you don't do it
in time, mine expires on the

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31st of March, then your
insurance is no no longer valid.

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So I had to get it to the shop
before the first of April. And

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well, he just got to go where
and whether or no whether

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this shop was in Antwerp. Yeah,
that's,

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you know, I'll tell you the big
thing about it. Here's the

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secret about aviation, if you
want to stay alive, maintenance

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is everything. So you find the
guy who you really trust, who a

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lot of people trust, and you
stick with him. You don't go

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from mechanic to mechanic, you
really want only one pair of

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hands working on your aircraft.

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There's a bunch of jokes, I'm
not going to go into them. Now

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you

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could do it. I've heard them
all, believe me. I've heard them

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all.

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And now I'm going to read just
too much flack because there's

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too many. There's too much
political correctness out there.

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You know, can I just say, John,
you're absolutely right. About

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them in general, but about
political correctness, you know,

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did you if

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you can't say anything, I mean,
like, you say anything about

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anyone as you're either hurting
somebody's feelings, or you're a

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racist pig or whatever?

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Well, racist pig is the big one.
Because, you know, the feared

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builders, the Dutch politician,
he released his movie there on

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Thursday evening. The end, you
know, as movies go really bad.

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Because it was, it's one of the
you know, it's one of the it's

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one of those typical, like all
the 911, truth type, you know,

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movies, so not the same topic,
obviously. But footage taken

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from all over the place and
edited together. So it

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absolutely had no impact
whatsoever. But the message was

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exactly that about political
correctness, basically saying,

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hey, look, we now have a third
generation of Muslims who have

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been born in, in in the
Netherlands, and half of them

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think the Netherlands should not
be a democracy, it should live

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by Sharia law. And the shoot has
got to stop. That's basically

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what he's saying is stopped the
Islamization of Western Europe.

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And I believe, John, that this
is what a lot of people in

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Europe want to say. But it's
politically incorrect to say it

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because we're all supposed to be
living in the multicultural

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society, which I just don't
think really works.

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Well, I don't think there's
anything wrong with

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understanding different
cultures, so you can deal with

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them for business purposes. But
there was something I read, I

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wanted to find this book, I have
a book that was making an

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interesting comment that the
writer made this just a side by

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three sentences that are so well
done. I can't even get close to

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it without quoting him exactly.
But he says, you know, there's a

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lot of cultures out there that
you can respect to a point, but

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many of them really should,

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are bad, really suck.

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They're just bad. And we
shouldn't, you know, maybe we do

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our respect for them should be
reconsidered. Because they're

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just bad. I mean, there's no
reason that there's there are

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bad cultures out there. And if
you know, some of these things

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are bad. And I have a question
some of the things that have

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been floating around in terms of
whether they're good cultures or

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not.

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So that's, that's, I'm sorry, go
ahead.

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But since we're on the topic of
cultures, I wanted to bring up

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something that came up in a
couple of emails and I sent you

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one I believe, yeah,

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I got it. But I'll pretend I
didn't get it to stick with it.

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No agenda like we didn't prepare
anything. Okay, well,

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no, but we get mail. That's
true. You know, it's not like an

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agenda like I didn't say what I
want to talk about I just sent

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you read I just said read this
and what it is is from a guy who

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had been corresponding with who
was talking about the big

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British grocery chain and this
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related to to cultural issues,
although it's not extreme

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cultural issues where you know,
you're beating women or

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anything. I mean, I don't think
they want that. But what's

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happened for people out there
one have fallen This is an

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interesting story. This is
starts in Southern California. I

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did some follow up by going to
the websites Have the have of

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Tesco. And it looks like they're
going to open up a bunch of

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these stores are called Fresh
and easy's and they're small

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grocery stores that have a lot
of fresh, supposedly fresh

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products in them, although
there's so many of them, and

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they're going to open like 30 of
them or something like that. But

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but the whole basic, the whole
basic formula is fresh and easy.

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So it's it's really fresh food
and easy to get. That's their

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formula. Right?

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Yeah, and you right. And they
believe that the Americans have

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got it all wrong. And you know,
they can show us show us the way

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even though you know, I've been
to grocery stores all over the

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world. And the fact of the
matter is, we have some of the

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worst in the United States and
some of the best, including a

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chain that's now evolving out of
the Seattle area.

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Get Freshfields? I'm sorry,
what's that? What's coming on to

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see? Well, we'll get to that in
a second, I guess about

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Yeah, let's talk about fashion
easy. Here's what they did. And

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this is what makes the story
interesting. They came in with

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supposedly a lot of research and
they're gonna come in and blow

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the American market away.
They're actually on the they're

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on, they're on the wrong trends
in almost every way they're

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gonna lose. If anyone's an
investor out there in Tesco.

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They're gonna lose their ass.
And I don't and I normally don't

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cuss. And, and here and here's
one of the reasons for one thing

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they did. Their research
indicated that people wanted

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fresh food. And I think there's
probably generally true, but so

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what they've done is they've
changed the way they do, the way

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they do expiration dating. And
that's was the biggest mistake

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they made. Because in the United
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pushed away out to the point
where the date should reflect

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should reflect the date when the
food milk or eggs whatever,

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literally rotten. Yeah,

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in fact, it is called American
culture to reach behind the

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products in the front of the of
the shelf and get a even, even

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fresher stuff from the back. I
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You're kidding.

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Especially with buttermilk. By
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who doesn't like buttermilk,
they should get into it. But if

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you live in Florida and Georgia,
this is where the best

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buttermilk in the country
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I'm not a butter. I'm a I'm a
soy milk guy. I don't drink

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buttermilk.

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Yes. So it shrinks your brain by
the way. No, it

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does not. That's horseshit. It's
really good for you shriek.

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Yeah, it's if you'd like to have
a mock. oestrogen, I use soy is

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good. So if you're if you're
into that, that's fine. But

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anyway, so you know, which
causes all kinds of issues.

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We're not big soy eaters, and

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wait a minute. Excuse me, John.
Am I killing myself by drinking

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soy milk now? Is that what
you're saying? Yeah, we're

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seriously. Yeah.

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Natural Products. Stop drinking
a drink milk.

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Well, no, stop. No, no, no, stop
it. Stop the fucking show.

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Excuse me. I, I've been drinking
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past two years, because it's
supposed to be good for me. And

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now you're saying

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yes, yes. The soy console and
the public relations operations

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out of the US. By the way, we
did a lot of research on soy.

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And of course, I get a lot of
flack for for every time I bring

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this up. You know, a lot of
people think that, you know,

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male breasts are due to too much
ingestion of soy products. But

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anyway, but the thing that's
interesting is that the soy bean

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lobby in the United States has
got a public relations agency

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that is so strong that every
time you read about soy, if you

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start looking at enough
material, go on the website

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looking at you know what people
say, well, soy is bad for you,

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then you'll see these responses.
These responses are almost word

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for word identical, because
they're all pushed out by the

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soybean, PR people who are just
you know, keeping the soybean

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industry alive and just for
mostly for the oil. Alright,

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don't use all right. All right.

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We'll get into the soy thing
right after you finish the

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fresh, sneezy, because we just
got to stick on that. But then I

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really want to hear about the
soy stuff.

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And Canola is another one.
Anyway. I'm surprised don't

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drink canola milk. All right,
let's go, Oh,

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my breasts are a little tender.
I wonder what's wrong?

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Well, that's probably from some
males. But anyway. So fresh and

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easy comes in with this idea. So
they put they to get people they

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think that by changing the date,
instead of like, for example,

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say it's April 1, and you go
back and you want to get some

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some product that it says April
14, and if someone says April,

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Tam, it makes you feel good that
makes you feel like it's fresh.

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Yeah, he makes it. So they've
got but they got their numbers

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really tight. So if you go on
April 1, the probably the

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furthest out, it'll say is April
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there and they wouldn't find
what they considered fresh by

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American standards because of
the way we do our dating. So

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these guys immediately come into
the country. And the first thing

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they do is they assume that
their style of dating is somehow

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acceptable, and it's nice to do,
which is a cultural thing again,

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which makes me wonder, because
they suppose they did a bunch of

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research before they opened He's
Fresh and Easy stores. The other

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thing that seems to be a problem
with them is that they're there.

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If anybody's been to London, if
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they have a grocery store in
many of these places and those

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places are, they have a lot of
nice stuff in there but the fact

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of the matter is it's a very
sterile environment

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but it's very upscale. I mean,
it's it's the most upscale

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supermarket food you can
purchase here apparently, chain

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chain supermarket.

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Well, I'm not sure that it was
head of the place Sheffield's

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chef, the other one is overdose

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Marks and Spencers. Well. Yeah,
I mean, you have you have like

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Fortnum and masons, you know,
but that's that's not a chain

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that's

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that's not no that's not a right
for a chain Okay, well, maybe

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whatever the case is, is not a
comfortable it's not a

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comforting it's not American new
style store, like a Whole Foods,

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for example, which would have a
funkier quality and a more you

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know, more wood and you know,
kind

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of, you know, what their ad
campaign is for Marks and

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Spencer over here for their
food, but they've really

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beautifully styled really, I
mean, it's very hard to shoot

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food for for television to make
it look good. So it really looks

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good. And the paid the tag is
always this is an ordinary food.

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This is m&s food.

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Yeah, right. Well, nice dry. So
they're bangers are quite good.

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By the way. It's people like
British banger a good one. But

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there's only they're very hard
to get into in the United States

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because it's almost, there's a
lot people don't realise it's

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against the law to put as much
bread crumbs or what they call

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Rusk into the sausage as they do
in England it's actually

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illegal. Really? Yeah, there's a
law because years and years ago

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when during the 20s I guess you
know, people would making crappy

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sausages and they were just
loading them up with bread and

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meat. And so the you know, the
legal guys came he said, This is

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ridiculous. Not a sausage
dammit. But so meanwhile a

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sausage has really that's about
a half bread which is a British

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banger. A good one is really
most of these you got a lot of

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bread in it. It because for the
texture you need that bread in

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there the soup for it to be
exactly right. If you liked that

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sausage I

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liked I liked it to mash baby.

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The only big bang are good
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Canada you can get in in fact,
I've I took a Canadian Air

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flight once from Toronto to
London and they had for

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breakfast they had a really
outstanding banger for on the

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Canadian flight. Anyway, so I
will say back to the disc, which

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was now becoming a shaggy dog
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Yeah. So they so they
immediately tells me that their

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researchers rather had their you
know, they were they were full

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of shit. Or they come in so but
the other thing that's

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interesting that people complain
about, which I wanted to discuss

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a little bit, is the is the fact
that they also have this

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European style that is rather
alien to Americans in general,

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except maybe in Berkeley, where
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voluntarily where you bag your
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the United States. You know,
it's like, if you're in the

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union, maybe I'll bag my own
food and getting you know,

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getting Union Pay. But for the
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food. And I can hear I can
already hear one of the

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listeners of this show moaning
about the kind of dilettante

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nature of American shoppers. But
the fact of the matter is, it's

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a tradition here and it's our
culture. Yeah, not to bag your

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own groceries. In fact, most
people can't bag and right

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anyway, they break bags. And I
think over time, they discovered

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that it was a disaster to let
people bag they're

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also they also it's it's an
efficiency thing. Because, you

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know, if you're bagging your own
groceries, it just takes longer

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unless you know, because you got
a bag and you got to go back and

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you got to move it forward and
pay it and you got to put them

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in the cart. And meanwhile,
people are waiting behind you.

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It's a much more I mean, and by
the way, I think that there are

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many, many retirees and young
kids who would really benefit

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from having that gig. I mean,
it's a great gig just to be

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doing something and making some
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Ya know, yeah, it keeps
employment up. But that but

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anyway, the point is, is that we
don't bag your own groceries

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although if you go to Berkeley,
you run into people that

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voluntarily go over and start
bagging their own groceries

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because they think they're in
Europe or they want to pretend

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they're in Europe or they feel
like they shouldn't be in Europe

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or whatever

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saving the Earth. John, we have
to save the earth.

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Now these are the same people
that put bicycle lanes all over

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the place and there's no
bicycles in them, but they all

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wish they the

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bicycle lane building soy milk.
Rincon, losers.

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If you want to ride a bike moved
to Amsterdam, that's where you

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can ride bikes all the time. It
just doesn't make any sense.

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We shop at Sainsbury's as you
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shopping. And they do ask you so
they don't have baggers. But

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they'll the cashier will say
would you like me to help you

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bag?

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Oh, that's new. No, no, no, I've
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it well I live here dude and
I've heard it

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varies numerous times and when I
when I go

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maybe they looked at you and
when like fuck that Yank man you

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know Let's teach him a lesson
it's possible bag yourself

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but the point is is that
generally speaking in Europe you

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bag your own groceries and in
some places and I think in Asia

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in some places you actually have
to buy the bags

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oh no that's that's common in
the Netherlands you have to buy

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the bag you have to pay for it
it's an extra you know like 50

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cents now used to be a member
used to be a dime but now it's

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50 euro cents per bag well i

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i can advise most Americans that
you can just take the bags and

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not pay for them and they figure
you're just an idiot. So

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typical American American
attitude John come over here

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visit our fantastic supermarkets
Yeah, the ones you love to shop

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and you know so much about and
then act like an asshole don't

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do that man this is this this is
what gives us a bad rap you got

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to stop that and you know it's
like drinking soy.

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It's anyway back to the cultural
things right now another thing

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you run into in Berkeley besides
people voluntarily bagging their

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own groceries because they wish
they're in Europe is they buy

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they bring in all these these
crappy bags that are made out of

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cloth that they either bought or
whatever it is you know because

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you say they actually give you
like a nickel or a dime or

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something back on your bill if
you if you don't use their bags

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which is fine because you know
golly you know the same people

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though that are walking around
with these with these with these

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cloth bags that they stuffed the
groceries in instead of using

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and wasting the one paper bag
are the same ones who subscribed

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to The New York Times and relish
the Sunday edition which

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probably accounts for about 1000
paper bags of her issue but that

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doesn't bother them

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you know they have plastic bags
here only plastic they don't

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have paper bag

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you have plastic we have the
common either plastic or paper

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generally they ask you in most
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the state and in San Francisco
in particular they have gone out

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of their way to ban the plastic
bag and I think the plastic bag

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which is used throughout Europe
and the Middle East I might add

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is a disaster I remember the
first time I was visiting Israel

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I thought you drive around into
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and there's all these trees with
plastic bag country bags hanging

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from the trees as though it was
fruit to me can't get these

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things down it's a disaster you

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oh by the way when you drive
over them and they stick to your

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exhaust how much does that suck
your car smells the garage

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smells but the remember we
talked about those was it to

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those swirling the swirling
centres in the ocean where all

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the plastic was one of the first
shows we did so that's now

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happening near midway I saw a
documentary The other night all

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this plastic is all winding up
midway is right in the middle of

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that was it with the word
started with a G What was it

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called John

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Boyd one of those lotto canal

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no no they didn't middle of the
ocean where all the plastic is

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the word for them for the for
this phenomenon.

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Yeah, what was that? It was what
the Chi remember was a type of

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Asian remember somebody I'll
bring them they will get anyway

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so Midway is that which of
course is what the island you're

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talking yes and Midway Island,
it's right in the middle of one

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of these and they show that it's
unbelievable the shit that shows

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up there. And And remember when
I was I was going up, which was

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you were already growing up that
you said you know plus plastic

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lasts for a million years and it
never it's not biodegradable.

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Well guess what? It's it's
degrading in the ocean. And and

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it's and it's being consumed?
Yeah, it's by by the smallest

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microbes. And everyone and all
these fish are getting sick,

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they're all going to die. We're
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most of the current plastic
that's being manufactured has is

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designed to biodegrade. I mean,
they're they're, they've

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reformulated it. So it has so
it's really really falls apart.

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it falls apart in the ocean. And
then those those particles are

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eaten up by by microbes or
whatever call it so that's not

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good isn't? No, no, no, it may
say drink, drink, and I got a

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cultural one for you.

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Let's finish this story about
fresh and easy.

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All right, but then we got to do
some more cultural stuff. Fresh

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and Easy. Okay, so let me just
let me summarise. So these

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arrogant Brits come in thinking
that they're going to take over

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the supermarket world they say,
You know what we'll do. We've

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done all the research,
apparently. And they're going to

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change if they change the way
that they date the food but in

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such a way that it is exactly
opposite to what Americans like

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because we like to see a date
that is at least 14 days in the

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future but we'll settle for a
week. That's it right okay.

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That's that's part of Their
problem is just shows that they

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don't, they're incompetent.
Also, they're also, they're

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distorted layouts are not
Americanized and their stores

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are too small they think they're
going to do you know, this has

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already been proven not to work,
the mom and pop family

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neighbourhood store doesn't work
anymore in the United States,

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people get in their car and they
go to a bigger place. Now, the

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best example of this is that
because Fresh and Easy, wants to

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sell, like, you know,
prepackaged meals, and all this

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kind of stuff that Boston
Market, so we always associate

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that kind of thing with a fast
food chain. And Boston Mark has

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already got that. They already
figured out how to do that. But

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anyway, in the late 90s, I
think, when I was still working

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at Tech TV, I would check my
route coming back from San

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Francisco would take me past one
of the yuppie markets chains in

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the Bay Area's called
Andronikos. And they were test

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marketing, I think called the
Andronikos marketplace was,

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which, as I read about freshman
easy is exactly the same concept

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and it was sitting right in the
middle of a million condos. And

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if anything could have survived,
it would have known without

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mentality it would have been
this place which went out of

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business within two years. It
was a test it didn't work out.

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Obviously, Tesco never heard of
Andronikos they don't know

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anything about this, this test
that was done in the Bay Area,

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which failed miserably and the
store was fantastic. I might add

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it was a really good little
place to stop. They had

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everything was amazing, in some
ways. But everything. People

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just don't walk to a little
store anymore that that went out

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of business with the with the
milk trucks in the United

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States. And what people want now
are these big stores. And the

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best example of what is really a
hot store is up and see the

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Seattle area this is I'm going
to end the story after this.

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Which is and this isn't related
to the Texas Chain of the same

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name, by the way. But there's a
there's a market up there called

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Central Market. There's one in
Seattle, there's one in Paul's

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bow and is run into started by a
couple of Japanese guys. It's

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huge. It has everything it has
everything Whole Foods has but

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it also gives in to the regular
commercial products. And it also

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even has like a hotdog stand
that sells up I perfected

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Chicago style hot dog with
vienna sausage, as a matter of

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fact, with the sport peppers and
everything else it's

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unbelievable facility that these
guys should go check out and

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then rethink their strategy
because it's fresh and easy

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thing is that loser

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Well I'll tell you a friend of a
very dear friend of mine worked

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for McKinsey that consultancy
and she was in the food

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department and these they call
it format so the format of the

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store which is the layout is
what you see first what that you

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know, every aisle This is really
well thought out this is they

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they even would go on espionage
missions. And take because you

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know try taking your camera into
into your local supermarket and

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start taking some pictures and
see how quick your asses kicked

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out. Because yeah, so much

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have you done I have done that.
But I do it knowing that I could

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get kicked out so I do really
quick.

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Yeah, I mean it's they are so
protective of this. So it really

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it boggles my mind that they
would know that they think

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they've done the research this
sounds like literally like a

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first year McKinsey consultant
who said let's try something

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new, you know, doesn't sound
like it's really been researched

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that well.

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No, I fit sounds like they
botched the job of research. And

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then these little kinds of
stores are not what right now

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Americans are going for the I
mean, if you go to Whole Foods

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is aren't small, little isn't
huge, as a huge. They're huge.

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But the central market, if
anyone's up into the Seattle

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area, they go to checkout
Central Market, or Paulsboro. Or

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this there's actually three of
them up Jonathan, there's gonna

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be a few more. Although I've
heard that the Central Market

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done out of Austin, which is
done by the H E. But company, a

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huge retailer, they heb stores
all over Texas and they do a

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thing called Central Market
which competes with Whole Foods

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down there. And it's supposed to
be spectacularly nice too. But I

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haven't been to one.

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So speaking of cultural
differences last night on on the

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BBC here on the show, I always
watched Friday night Jonathan

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Ross, Donald Sutherland
Sutherland was on and and you

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know, he's from Canada. And oh,
yeah, everybody know, he

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reminds everybody right. But

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00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,450
he you know, so he still says
that, you know, Americans

442
00:24:30,450 --> 00:24:34,500
usually think he's British.
British think he's American. But

443
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:37,170
everyone kind of neglects the
fact that he's Canadian. So he

444
00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:40,140
said, You know, there's a joke
that he that he said, he said he

445
00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:45,030
would tell. I said the Canadians
love the joke. The Americans

446
00:24:45,060 --> 00:24:48,150
hate the joke and he wanted to
try it out on the on the

447
00:24:48,150 --> 00:24:48,630
British.

448
00:24:51,090 --> 00:24:52,290
Okay, no, thank

449
00:24:52,290 --> 00:24:54,840
you. I was waiting for that. So
you want to hear the joke? Of

450
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,570
course. All right. Let's, let's
see. Let's see if you like it.

451
00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:01,620
He did some little is your thing
here, but I don't think it's

452
00:25:01,620 --> 00:25:02,940
important for the joke to

453
00:25:03,330 --> 00:25:07,110
be put before you do the joke
not to interrupt. But the fact

454
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:10,800
that the Canadians love the joke
means it's somehow it's some

455
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,430
it's one of those Canadian jokes
that you know, that's

456
00:25:15,210 --> 00:25:18,210
that's what I was waiting for,
but it isn't at least I didn't

457
00:25:18,210 --> 00:25:21,330
think it was but then again, I'm
not. I'm certainly not Canadian.

458
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:25,110
I'm only half American, half
European. I'm a lover, not a

459
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:29,820
fighter. So here's the joke. Two
sperm are swimming along.

460
00:25:30,510 --> 00:25:33,180
swimming alone swimming along
and the one sperm says to the

461
00:25:33,180 --> 00:25:38,010
other sperm, dude. How long
until we get to the womb? And

462
00:25:38,010 --> 00:25:40,800
the other sperm says, I don't
know man, we haven't even left

463
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:46,530
the oesophagus yet. Hmm. Now, I
thought it was pretty funny.

464
00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:51,000
Well, it is it is straight. It
is funny. I mean, technically.

465
00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:54,540
Did I not tell it? Well, did you
not like it that much? No, no, I

466
00:25:54,540 --> 00:25:56,670
mean, I think you can't tell him
much better than that. Because I

467
00:25:56,670 --> 00:26:02,730
mean, it's you know, it's it's
it's shallow. Very typical

468
00:26:02,730 --> 00:26:06,360
Canadian. I think what it is I
give that the Canadians do do

469
00:26:06,930 --> 00:26:09,030
fellatio in Canada. No,

470
00:26:09,270 --> 00:26:12,150
maybe they have more hookers up
there. Oh, basically.

471
00:26:14,220 --> 00:26:15,660
Here comes the email.

472
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,520
And you know, I think that I
think the joke is juvenile.

473
00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:24,450
I thought it was kind of funny.
You know, what, if anything, I

474
00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:24,780
thought

475
00:26:25,470 --> 00:26:28,050
it's like the it's like the
punchline to the joke on I don't

476
00:26:28,050 --> 00:26:31,830
do that's not that's not a rash
dash lipstick? To be honest,

477
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:35,040
John, I thought that maybe a lot
of Americans, if he would tell

478
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,710
that on television or in you
know, in some public forum that

479
00:26:37,710 --> 00:26:40,830
maybe a lot of Americans, it
takes them too long to figure

480
00:26:40,830 --> 00:26:42,360
out what an oesophagus is.

481
00:26:42,750 --> 00:26:45,570
I'll download that tonight then
seriously?

482
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,390
Well, it's I mean it
unfortunately.

483
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:51,960
Yeah, you know what, I hate to
admit it, but you might be right

484
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:56,670
yeah. Not that you know, the I
don't

485
00:26:56,670 --> 00:26:58,140
want to generalise or anything,

486
00:26:58,380 --> 00:27:02,760
by the way. oesophagus? I don't
know this is good. No agenda

487
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,950
where we're just obviously going
to just roam all over the place.

488
00:27:05,550 --> 00:27:13,350
Fergus is one of the one of the
definitive dishes in Taiwan

489
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:16,470
of the beef variety.

490
00:27:17,370 --> 00:27:22,560
I believe so yeah. I've had it I
went to was a Taiwanese take me

491
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,400
to Taiwanese restaurant did give
me all the traditional national

492
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,450
dishes as it were from Formosa
and oesophagus is apparently the

493
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:33,390
you know, right at the top of
the list. And it's that's

494
00:27:33,390 --> 00:27:34,260
actually quite good.

495
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:39,030
Can you imagine oesophagus
stuffed with banger? dripped in

496
00:27:39,390 --> 00:27:43,980
in m&s soy milk? Oh, man, how
wonderful would that be?

497
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:53,790
So another thing about self
service, which we know is the

498
00:27:54,270 --> 00:27:57,570
debt in the United States, we
used to it people used to pump

499
00:27:57,570 --> 00:27:58,410
our gas.

500
00:27:59,190 --> 00:28:03,360
Oh, mad. Sure. Absolutely. My
wife, you still want to pump

501
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,010
your own gas? Because she wants
that here.

502
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:09,840
And we used to get free maps.
Oh, that's

503
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,940
right. Oh, that's right. It was
the biggest thing on a road

504
00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:14,520
trip. It's like, Dad, no. Can I
run into that? Can I get a free

505
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,330
map? Can I get a map

506
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:19,170
and the guy would check your
oil. He would wash your

507
00:28:19,170 --> 00:28:22,860
windshield, pump your gas and
look at your wife's tits

508
00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:28,590
and give you a free map and
gasoline was like 50 cents. The

509
00:28:28,590 --> 00:28:32,700
good old days. Know what
happened with the $4 gasoline

510
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:34,920
and they don't do anything. You
have to do it all yourself and

511
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,190
they won't check your oil and
nobody cares. I just I just

512
00:28:38,190 --> 00:28:41,460
don't get the economics of this.
By the way in Oregon. It's

513
00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:45,480
illegal to pump your own gas
they by law it's required that

514
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,680
somebody else pump it

515
00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:48,060
someone who's qualified

516
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,400
gas pumper.

517
00:28:50,430 --> 00:28:55,290
Yeah, it ain't easy, you know?
Well, the economics I think are

518
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,500
you know, that came with the
self serve. I think it makes

519
00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:02,160
sense. It's just less bodies
there and and people don't care

520
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,590
anymore. You know, we're
conditioned to it. I think that

521
00:29:04,590 --> 00:29:09,690
went away such a long time ago.
The and then you know, self

522
00:29:09,690 --> 00:29:12,450
service seems to be really
everywhere now. Do you is there

523
00:29:12,450 --> 00:29:14,220
still in where you can get your
gas pumped?

524
00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:17,730
The internet, the internet makes
it makes it even worse. Now you

525
00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:20,490
have to, you know, you can't
even go to the gym, everything

526
00:29:20,490 --> 00:29:26,010
self service. I didn't notice it
when it began when when you used

527
00:29:26,010 --> 00:29:29,040
to go to Macy's, you need to do
in the olden days used to go to

528
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,650
a store and they would have
people actually could that could

529
00:29:31,650 --> 00:29:34,410
help you and actually had taste
and they could lead you to

530
00:29:34,410 --> 00:29:37,500
buying a certain thing or
whatever. Nowadays, you know,

531
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:40,200
they just have these clerks that
get whatever the minimum wage

532
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,380
is. And then they require them
either through the bar coding

533
00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:47,520
system or through a punching it
in by hand to essentially do all

534
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,980
the people don't realise why it
takes so long to get away from a

535
00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:53,400
counter in a big retailer. It's
because you're punching in all

536
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,700
the accounting information.
Instead of a bean counter doing

537
00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:57,660
it they're doing it at

538
00:29:57,660 --> 00:30:00,000
they're doing the work. They're
doing the work for it, obviously

539
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,950
literally doing all the work,
bang,

540
00:30:01,950 --> 00:30:04,200
bang, bang. So you sit there as
the things all this data is

541
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,070
going in. And then then of
course, it takes off something

542
00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:12,210
in some computer database. So
they can reorder more white

543
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:15,000
shirts, because no buddy can
notice that there aren't any

544
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:15,360
left.

545
00:30:15,390 --> 00:30:20,730
Oh, dude, I remember I worked in
retail when I was 16, selling

546
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,190
electronic parts. So literally
diodes, transistors, capacitors,

547
00:30:26,580 --> 00:30:30,450
you know, Transformers solder
wire, you name it, and it was

548
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,420
you know, we had a cash
register, where you would

549
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:39,930
interview you'd write down every
item by hand on, on, basically,

550
00:30:40,650 --> 00:30:44,160
like a receipt. And then you
slide that receipt into this

551
00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:47,550
cash register, it had a handle
that you would spin but it

552
00:30:47,790 --> 00:30:51,870
actually modernise it, and you
hit the, you put the type the

553
00:30:51,870 --> 00:30:56,550
amount in, you hit the big black
button, and it printed the total

554
00:30:56,580 --> 00:30:59,520
and it had an internal total,
right. And then at the end the

555
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,540
end of every single day, you'd
have to compare all three

556
00:31:03,540 --> 00:31:06,450
pieces. So how much money you
have left in the to you how much

557
00:31:06,450 --> 00:31:10,290
money you have in the till,
excluding the 30 guilders at the

558
00:31:10,290 --> 00:31:12,660
time that went in just for
change at the beginning of the

559
00:31:12,660 --> 00:31:15,870
day, and you had to match all of
these different pieces of paper

560
00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:17,220
and that matched back to

561
00:31:17,550 --> 00:31:22,980
stock. Well, that's the way it
worked. When I worked well, but

562
00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:28,980
you know what, I wonder where
the word till comes from? The

563
00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:31,410
money in the till I've heard
that all my life and never

564
00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:33,840
thought much about it. But it's
not. It's not until it's a cash

565
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,600
register the money in the cash,
but it's always at the money in

566
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,720
the till. Maybe one of our
listeners knows the etymology of

567
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,350
that particular screwball term.
I'm, of course

568
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:47,670
looking it up as we speak. But
it's kind of a hard word for

569
00:31:47,670 --> 00:31:48,150
Google.

570
00:31:49,380 --> 00:31:53,040
Yeah, ta l would be impossible.
I think it's T IL. Maybe it's ti

571
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,520
ll

572
00:31:53,550 --> 00:31:57,300
I think it's double L Yeah, ti
ll let me see. I'll do

573
00:31:57,300 --> 00:31:59,670
entomology till that always
help.

574
00:32:00,810 --> 00:32:05,010
Cat you maybe put cash register
until I come up with something

575
00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:07,890
associative, which is the way I
do a lot of searches.

576
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,700
That's something that I that I
only learned maybe 10 years ago

577
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:15,810
that NCR stands for National
cash register company,

578
00:32:16,140 --> 00:32:19,530
right. And the reason that
Watson name his company he used

579
00:32:19,530 --> 00:32:24,330
to work at NCR Of course, he got
all his his ideas from NCR and

580
00:32:24,330 --> 00:32:27,420
when he started IBM, and he
decided that he was going to

581
00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:30,300
name it like National cash
register, but he's going to up

582
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:33,420
the ante on each and every word.
So instead of national, he made

583
00:32:33,420 --> 00:32:36,900
it International. Instead of
cash register, he made it

584
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:37,440
business

585
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,570
machines. Yeah, exactly.

586
00:32:41,070 --> 00:32:44,250
A little A little known a little
she's not dealt

587
00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:47,580
with and Tom Watson's Tom Watson
still lives on in Dr. Watson

588
00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:54,420
Disney. Does he? It's not that
Dr. Watson like on on N T. And I

589
00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:58,410
thought it still did it on that
1000 Dr. Watson would pop up and

590
00:32:58,410 --> 00:33:02,130
he would like monitor shit they
crashed was not him.

591
00:33:02,370 --> 00:33:06,060
I don't think so. That's too
weird if true.

592
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,390
That's what I that's what I
always thought I thought that

593
00:33:09,690 --> 00:33:10,740
that's that's him

594
00:33:13,020 --> 00:33:16,260
well, if he had a baseball bat,
maybe what does that have to do

595
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:19,860
with it? Gather stories of him
and you know, coming in to

596
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:23,130
collect, you know, by breaking
somebody's kneecaps against the

597
00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:27,840
road. So all these stories about
the about the early days of IBM

598
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,910
being the kind of a brutish, B R
u T, I sh type of company?

599
00:33:33,270 --> 00:33:36,420
Well, they were one of our
clients that when we had think

600
00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:42,000
new ideas, and there were
probably like a I think they

601
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,900
spent 15 to $20 million a year
with us and it was for the as

602
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:53,550
400 division boil boil boy, and
man, there's still huge I mean,

603
00:33:53,550 --> 00:33:55,350
really big. Yeah, a

604
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:58,650
lot of people are really fans of
those machines. By the way back

605
00:33:58,650 --> 00:34:01,200
to the one more thing I just
came to Microsoft was looking at

606
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,520
my list of complaints, which
goes on for days, but the Fresh

607
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,220
and Easy people had this excuse
about the dating saying that

608
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:10,920
well people are you know, they
they're going to come in and

609
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,220
shop daily, which is another
assumption they made about two

610
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,800
all right, yeah. Which is not
the way American

611
00:34:16,799 --> 00:34:18,779
Oh, shop. Weekly.

612
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:22,799
Yeah, yeah, I go. I don't I
mean, I loved it. I like I said,

613
00:34:22,799 --> 00:34:26,669
I like to shop. But I don't like
to go to the grocery store each

614
00:34:26,669 --> 00:34:29,639
and every day just to buy
today's food. I mean, I have a

615
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:30,779
freezer. So here

616
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:34,350
it is. Here it is. Okay. So it's
a combination of there's also a

617
00:34:34,350 --> 00:34:37,380
cultural shift happening in
Europe, which is, I think, gone

618
00:34:37,380 --> 00:34:41,700
very, very rapidly having grown
up in Europe. Absolutely. Now

619
00:34:41,700 --> 00:34:45,840
you have your long term items,
like your potatoes, okay. And

620
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,180
you have stuff that you can just
keep laying around. Do you get

621
00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:51,030
that into big bulky in fact,
that potato guy would bring that

622
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:53,610
to you and he'd also take away
the potato peelings. There's

623
00:34:53,610 --> 00:34:58,020
another guy for that back in the
day. And you know, every single

624
00:34:58,020 --> 00:35:01,830
day, you know mom goes out and
And she goes by the butcher

625
00:35:01,830 --> 00:35:04,380
around the corner and whatever.
And then yeah, she gets her meat

626
00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:09,630
and she'll go to the to the
vegetable, vegetable guy. And

627
00:35:09,630 --> 00:35:12,900
that could even be a stand on
the little market. And what has

628
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:16,980
happened is they've tried to
keep that cultural process

629
00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:20,910
going, but now that they've, you
know, all those smaller stores

630
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:24,120
are gone, and it's become big
box supermarkets, but they've

631
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,330
kept that idea of going every
single day.

632
00:35:29,429 --> 00:35:33,929
Yeah, well, the Americans have
never, except maybe in large

633
00:35:33,929 --> 00:35:37,619
cities like New York, generally
speaking, don't shop every day,

634
00:35:37,919 --> 00:35:41,459
especially in the suburbs, which
is where most people live in

635
00:35:41,459 --> 00:35:46,289
total numbers. And is it you
know, it's also impractical? I

636
00:35:46,289 --> 00:35:49,889
mean, there's, I mean, I
wouldn't mind living in Paris,

637
00:35:49,889 --> 00:35:53,549
you know, you know, it's a block
away from a meat market and a

638
00:35:53,549 --> 00:35:57,629
cheese shop and a bread store
and, uh, whatever. And yeah, and

639
00:35:57,629 --> 00:36:01,019
go every day, say hello to the
butcher, and, you know, get a

640
00:36:01,019 --> 00:36:03,569
cut of a horse or whatever I
wanted to eat.

641
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,360
If that's because we live in a
country where you got to work

642
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,840
your ass off. We work 1214 hours
a day in the United States. We

643
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,120
don't have any time for that
shit. That's what's driven us.

644
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,940
That's why we're such a
tremendously huge nation and not

645
00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:17,880
like all those socialists in
Europe who work eight hour days

646
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,190
and take eight weeks vacation a
year.

647
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,870
Yeah, yeah, no, it's a shame.
Dude.

648
00:36:24,929 --> 00:36:30,689
Dude, speaking of the French
Sarkozy had a huge states visit

649
00:36:30,689 --> 00:36:34,559
to the UK to visit the queen.
And this is a really, this is

650
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:36,149
really big. I mean, they've
rolled out

651
00:36:36,149 --> 00:36:38,219
the cards we have new we know
nothing about this. So you might

652
00:36:38,219 --> 00:36:39,659
as well Oh, okay. So Oh,

653
00:36:39,660 --> 00:36:43,320
no, this is a big public
display. They know, they rolled

654
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,800
out the golden coach and all the
although it was really

655
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,780
beautiful. It was a real
throwback to like, you know,

656
00:36:48,810 --> 00:36:54,150
18th 19th century, just
fantastic. Grand Jury, if you

657
00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:58,140
will. And, you know, Sarkozy
addressed the the entire

658
00:36:58,140 --> 00:37:01,380
parliament, and he says it's
time for, you know, for our two

659
00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:05,340
countries to bond together,
talking about deploying more

660
00:37:05,610 --> 00:37:08,190
forces together around the
world, but really saying, yes,

661
00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:11,400
we know, in fact, he literally
said Sarkozy said, you know, you

662
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,040
have your special relationship
with America. That's great. But

663
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,120
we want a real brotherhood
between our two countries. And,

664
00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:22,200
but of course, the real news
was, this was the first time

665
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:27,750
that his wife Carla Bruni,
former model and singer came

666
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:33,180
along with him. And dude, man,
she's awesome, John, she is she

667
00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:36,330
I mean, she is she's like Lady
die of France. I'm telling you.

668
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:38,790
I mean, that just from the
appearances right, and she

669
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:42,090
hasn't I don't know if she's
done all the type of work that

670
00:37:42,090 --> 00:37:46,650
Diana did. It makes so much
sense. I mean, it was like

671
00:37:46,650 --> 00:37:49,560
finally someone good looking in
the royal family. Really? I

672
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,930
mean, yeah, we got Camilla, for
Christ's sakes. Yeah, a cab

673
00:37:54,930 --> 00:38:01,290
driver told me a joke about
Camilla. He said Charles Charles

674
00:38:01,290 --> 00:38:04,500
was driving around Windsor
Castle and he accidentally drove

675
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:07,140
over one of the Queen's corgis
you know one of those dogs that

676
00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:11,520
she has, and and in the quarry
is dead, and all sudden the

677
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,480
fairy godmother appears. And so
I don't know why you so glum,

678
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,750
and Charles says, Well, you
know, I've killed one of mums

679
00:38:18,780 --> 00:38:22,530
corgis? Well, you know what?
I'll give you one wish. And

680
00:38:22,890 --> 00:38:25,560
maybe that'll make you feel
better for today. He says, Oh,

681
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,130
could you please bring the Corgi
back to life? And Fairy

682
00:38:29,130 --> 00:38:32,610
Godmother looks and says no, no,
that's that's a goner. I can't

683
00:38:32,610 --> 00:38:39,030
do anything that you No, no.
Can't do that. And then Charles

684
00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:42,960
says, Well, maybe you could do
something about Camilla's

685
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,290
appearance. And the fairy
godmother says let's have

686
00:38:46,290 --> 00:38:47,850
another look at that Corgi for a
second

687
00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:52,650
that's a good joke. Yeah, I

688
00:38:52,650 --> 00:38:54,810
mean, you have to hear it and
kind of that you know that

689
00:38:55,020 --> 00:38:56,250
London cabbie accent.

690
00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:58,650
Ya know, it'd be funny with with
or without that. Yeah, but it

691
00:38:58,650 --> 00:39:01,260
would be even probably funnier
with a guy that could do the

692
00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:01,800
voice really

693
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,680
do it. Yeah, I can do the voice
but that's it sounds

694
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,900
pretentious? Unfortunately. Not
quite. Right.

695
00:39:10,020 --> 00:39:11,490
So I had grits today.

696
00:39:12,090 --> 00:39:16,680
I have I'm not a big fan of the
grits. Boy I don't know it's

697
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,320
just it's not I'm very
particular about breakfast.

698
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,100
I was I was saying you know, I'd
never get like I never had good

699
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:26,700
sex until I started travelling
into the South the deep south in

700
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:30,600
particular. They words really
get to grips Yep, was common at

701
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,820
a breakfast and even all the
hotels. And and it's an

702
00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:38,430
interesting dish because it did
for build on a grid. Sorry,

703
00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:43,950
they're actually a kind of a
corn Marsh cornmeal mush that is

704
00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:51,210
made from a specific type of
corn hominy that seems to soak

705
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:54,000
up so much water and expand to
such an extreme that you can see

706
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,920
why poor people eat it because
it makes you feel full in like

707
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:04,320
oatmeal. where you might need
like half a cup of oats two cup

708
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,810
of or maybe three quarters of a
cup of oats to like a cup or a

709
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,070
cup and a quarter of water and
milk. It's like a couple of

710
00:40:11,070 --> 00:40:18,450
tablespoons of grits and like a
cup makes a huge pile and but

711
00:40:18,450 --> 00:40:24,060
they're they're bland so I've
been thinking about I like them

712
00:40:24,060 --> 00:40:26,310
because they're interesting as a
side thing.

713
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,490
What do you eat and where the
where I mean, did you go

714
00:40:29,489 --> 00:40:32,879
ham with bacon in a row ever? I
mean just on a plate with red

715
00:40:32,879 --> 00:40:36,149
rice, would you consider brown
potatoes you'd be to have those

716
00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:39,720
right. You don't consider any
like some people will put syrup

717
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:41,520
on it. Some people do other
things

718
00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:44,490
right? Yeah, some people put
syrup on them and some people

719
00:40:44,490 --> 00:40:48,180
put butter on them and you can
cook them if you cook them in

720
00:40:48,180 --> 00:40:51,990
broth It tastes a lot better but
I was experimenting with we have

721
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:56,280
at the deli. We have a bunch of
salts a big thing right now it's

722
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,770
a big trendy item everyone's
buying all kinds of salts

723
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,220
because a weird sells in a very
expensive salts a huge it I was

724
00:41:02,220 --> 00:41:04,260
at the Fancy Food Show for the
last two or three years some of

725
00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:06,930
the biggest vendors making the
most money are selling assault

726
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,110
when what can what kind of salts
are there? I mean, that's like

727
00:41:10,139 --> 00:41:14,159
Hawaiian salt, which is red
because it's in these brick

728
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:16,889
kilns. And essentially it's
pieces of brick that are in the

729
00:41:16,889 --> 00:41:20,999
salt. As far as I'm concerned.
There's mined salt there's

730
00:41:20,999 --> 00:41:23,039
Florida sell from France. What
are what

731
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,270
are the main differences between
the salts? I mean, is it I mean,

732
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:29,850
it's like, what are the
differences? I mean, you know,

733
00:41:29,850 --> 00:41:32,460
like those places can be sharper
or less sharp.

734
00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:34,920
There's there's flavours that
are slightly different. They

735
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,340
have a lot of different mineral
contents, not all salts are just

736
00:41:38,340 --> 00:41:41,250
sodium chloride. They have a lot
of magnesium. Some of them have.

737
00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:44,520
I have some salt from
Switzerland that has its half

738
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,110
potassium chloride naturally,
supposedly, anyway, but the one

739
00:41:49,110 --> 00:41:51,420
thing that you know, this is
just a number of assaults is

740
00:41:51,420 --> 00:41:55,140
expanding and exist salts from
the Himalayas. There's Tibetan

741
00:41:55,140 --> 00:41:57,480
salt, and a lot of these
restaurants are starting to use

742
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,170
these salts.

743
00:41:58,469 --> 00:42:02,039
It amazes me, John, you don't
know shit about Tibet. But you

744
00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:05,099
do know about Tibetan salt mats.
Yeah, it's a travesty.

745
00:42:06,270 --> 00:42:09,600
It's a travesty of justice. And
anyway, there's also a black

746
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,440
assault. But the thing is, is
that because they can't seem to

747
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,400
make enough weird assaults,
there's all these smoked salts.

748
00:42:17,790 --> 00:42:20,040
And now you can get from the
United States you can get

749
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,550
hickory smoke, salt, Mesquite,
smoke silence and these are just

750
00:42:23,550 --> 00:42:27,750
basically tastes like smoke. But
now that's the lead up to what I

751
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:31,890
have to say, which is the French
have made a smoke salt called

752
00:42:31,890 --> 00:42:36,780
few may sell for a long time.
It's a tradition. And unlike the

753
00:42:36,990 --> 00:42:41,130
American smoke salts, this stuff
is actually fantastic as a

754
00:42:41,130 --> 00:42:44,580
product and when you use it on
grids when you make the grid and

755
00:42:44,580 --> 00:42:48,000
use this few may sell it did
make cigarettes tastes really

756
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,450
outstanding and it improves
things a lot. But it's a French

757
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,360
smoked salts extremely
expensive, but it's just

758
00:42:54,570 --> 00:42:56,520
astonishing product.

759
00:42:57,810 --> 00:43:01,950
I didn't know there was such a
such a variety of salts. I mean,

760
00:43:01,950 --> 00:43:03,360
you think like sea salt, and,

761
00:43:03,570 --> 00:43:07,500
ya know, the salt thing is huge.
And the and the other thing that

762
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:10,230
we've noticed that we can't
figure this one out, because we

763
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:13,860
sell out of it constantly. We're
you know, so a lot of spices

764
00:43:13,860 --> 00:43:18,090
mostly. And, and I ran into the
Andronikos that I mentioned

765
00:43:18,090 --> 00:43:20,610
earlier, I was in the store and
they had it there too, and it

766
00:43:20,610 --> 00:43:24,120
keeps selling out and my wife
can't figure it out. I can't

767
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,770
figure it out. We haven't found
any research indicate where this

768
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:32,370
demand is coming from I figures
the Food Channel or somebody

769
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:37,740
smoked Caprica is the hottest
thing right now in the spice,

770
00:43:37,890 --> 00:43:42,240
oily, red or green or does it go
red? It's red smoke, it's red

771
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,210
paprika looks just like, you
know, regular paprika, which was

772
00:43:45,210 --> 00:43:47,730
there's no such thing as regular
that now there's varietals and

773
00:43:47,730 --> 00:43:51,660
all the rest of it, but the
smoked paprika is going out the

774
00:43:51,660 --> 00:43:55,350
door. And we can't. And if
anybody out there knows why I'd

775
00:43:55,350 --> 00:43:57,900
like to know myself because we
can't figure it out. I don't

776
00:43:57,900 --> 00:43:58,680
even have a recipe.

777
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:01,259
It must be a new secret
ingredient in crystal meth or

778
00:44:01,259 --> 00:44:02,009
something like that.

779
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,700
Yeah, well, that's possible. So
front page

780
00:44:05,699 --> 00:44:10,319
of the Financial Times Weekend
Edition over here in the UK, of

781
00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:15,209
course the controversial tax law
new new tax code goes into

782
00:44:15,209 --> 00:44:18,809
effect April 6 here in the
United Kingdom. And there's been

783
00:44:18,809 --> 00:44:21,569
a lot of talk about that even on
this show about non domiciled

784
00:44:21,569 --> 00:44:25,859
taxes, etc. So the first big,
big loss for Britain because,

785
00:44:25,889 --> 00:44:28,859
you know, I also predicted a lot
of companies will leave and a

786
00:44:28,859 --> 00:44:31,529
lot of cool shit. It's just not
going to take place here because

787
00:44:31,529 --> 00:44:37,319
of this. So you'll love this.
Britain, Britain's bid for the

788
00:44:37,319 --> 00:44:41,819
2010 Champions League finals,
which is the huge football

789
00:44:41,819 --> 00:44:46,649
competition at Wembley Arena.
They're out of the race, because

790
00:44:46,649 --> 00:44:50,609
UEFA which is the governing body
of the Football Association,

791
00:44:51,479 --> 00:44:55,169
said you know what, since you
guys aren't going to waive our

792
00:44:55,169 --> 00:45:01,379
players being taxed when they
play in the UK, you're off So

793
00:45:01,499 --> 00:45:06,389
like, this is the country that
is supposed to be the new sports

794
00:45:06,389 --> 00:45:10,949
minded country, we have the
Olympics coming up. They're now

795
00:45:10,949 --> 00:45:15,059
losing UEFA championship
football because of the tax

796
00:45:15,059 --> 00:45:15,509
code,

797
00:45:16,020 --> 00:45:18,420
which has got to be worth
millions and millions of dollars

798
00:45:18,420 --> 00:45:19,560
to the local businesses

799
00:45:19,590 --> 00:45:24,780
pounds even. Sorry. We don't we
don't talk about dollars

800
00:45:24,780 --> 00:45:29,250
anymore, John, it's just not
worth it. But oh, by the way,

801
00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:32,910
have you seen this documentary?
The money masters?

802
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,580
No. Okay.

803
00:45:35,610 --> 00:45:38,460
I'm only one hour into it, it
was brought to my attention by

804
00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:41,400
one of my listeners that daily
source code at Delhi source

805
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,080
code.com. And it's a three and a
half hour documentary, I think

806
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,080
it's from it must, it looks like
it's from the early 80s. And it

807
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,350
does look like it was a real
television documentary, in its

808
00:45:52,410 --> 00:45:55,920
professionalism. But just from
the just looking at the at the

809
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,850
footage, it pretty much looks
like it was 80s or maybe even a

810
00:45:59,850 --> 00:46:05,160
little over maybe late 70s. But
it's about how banks came to

811
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:07,950
rule the world. So they focus
specifically on the Bank of

812
00:46:07,950 --> 00:46:11,610
England which surprise,
surprise, is owned by private

813
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,240
individuals and and families and
has nothing to do with the

814
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:17,730
government or the Queen of
England, and the Federal

815
00:46:17,730 --> 00:46:19,980
Reserve, which of course, also
has nothing to do with the

816
00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:23,880
government of the United States.
And how how the system works.

817
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,670
And of course, you and I think
we we understand kind of what's

818
00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:31,920
going on, but they're able to
simplify the process of how it

819
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,640
works and how, you know, how
basically, doesn't matter who's

820
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,210
running what country where these
guys are running the whole show,

821
00:46:39,210 --> 00:46:42,570
it's a fantastic piece of work,
I'll send you you can Google it.

822
00:46:43,830 --> 00:46:48,720
Video video.google.com It's like
the top hit the money masters

823
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:52,890
three and a half hours. And it's
just completely engaging. Even

824
00:46:52,890 --> 00:46:56,640
if you know the story. They did
it so well. And it's and I hope

825
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,910
that lots of people watch it,
because it just shows you how

826
00:46:59,910 --> 00:47:03,330
everything is running and that
the even the elections are a

827
00:47:03,330 --> 00:47:08,100
joke. These are the these two
entities the Federal Reserve and

828
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:10,620
Bank of England and of course,
other central banks. They

829
00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:13,860
control us because they
literally control how much your

830
00:47:13,860 --> 00:47:17,550
house payment will be how much
your car payment will be, you

831
00:47:17,550 --> 00:47:20,130
know what your salary is going
to be they they determine that

832
00:47:20,130 --> 00:47:24,150
random and not well random to
us, but for their own benefit

833
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:29,310
whenever they need to do it. So
now that's pretty much I think,

834
00:47:29,310 --> 00:47:34,170
when the the lending hand is
always above the borrowing hand,

835
00:47:34,170 --> 00:47:34,530
right?

836
00:47:36,210 --> 00:47:40,170
Well, all I know is that it's
fishy.

837
00:47:40,590 --> 00:47:45,000
When you see this, you'll you'll
just your jaw will drop. Your

838
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,240
jaw will drop you like of course
now is

839
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:51,330
it now I guess it fit? Does it
fit in with the Confessions of

840
00:47:51,330 --> 00:47:52,440
an economic hitman?

841
00:47:52,530 --> 00:47:57,750
Oh, completely? Well, in that
system, okay, so this, this is

842
00:47:57,750 --> 00:48:04,530
going back to in fact, the, the
American Revolution was because

843
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,450
of central banking. They wanted
to get away from that. It's It's

844
00:48:09,450 --> 00:48:12,810
fascinating, you know, so, you
know, we were taught in school,

845
00:48:12,810 --> 00:48:16,050
it was about taxes. Yeah, it was
partially about taxes, but it

846
00:48:16,050 --> 00:48:21,120
was about America having the
colonial scrip, which was their

847
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,650
own form of money. And they just
issued enough for trade to take

848
00:48:25,650 --> 00:48:28,140
place and everything worked. And
there was no there was no

849
00:48:28,140 --> 00:48:31,440
inflation, there was no national
debt, you know, it was just

850
00:48:31,650 --> 00:48:34,470
there was money in circulation,
and everyone used it and you

851
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:37,770
know, you could get more of it
by selling more or or spending

852
00:48:37,770 --> 00:48:41,280
less and but there was just so
much in circulation, it wasn't

853
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,600
brought in, you know, through
through printing it through a

854
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,990
third party who would then
basically lend it to the to the

855
00:48:49,710 --> 00:48:54,300
to the government. Fascinating.
It's really an eye opener.

856
00:48:56,010 --> 00:48:58,680
Will definitely watch it. Yes,

857
00:48:58,709 --> 00:49:01,019
I in fact, I don't think you
should go anywhere today. I

858
00:49:01,019 --> 00:49:07,289
think you should stay home, in
your slippers. Have a nice cup

859
00:49:07,289 --> 00:49:08,039
of tea there.

860
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,390
And watch this and then just get
mad.

861
00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:17,010
You know what you won't get I'm
not mad. I'm looking at I'm

862
00:49:17,010 --> 00:49:19,620
going like, oh my gosh, of
course. I mean, it's really

863
00:49:19,620 --> 00:49:22,950
Rothschild. The Rothschilds run
the world, dude.

864
00:49:24,210 --> 00:49:25,740
Well, you know, they make good
wine to

865
00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:30,870
not just wine, they got all
kinds of stuff. So we'd like him

866
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:35,760
I got nothing against the
Rothschilds. But you'll also

867
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,820
understand how bank runs really
work, you know, when everyone

868
00:49:38,820 --> 00:49:40,710
has a run on the bank and
everyone wants to get their

869
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:44,250
money out and, and of course,
then you immediately understand

870
00:49:44,250 --> 00:49:47,910
why you get why there's
attractive interest rates for

871
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:50,910
locking up your money, which
means you can't take it out for

872
00:49:50,910 --> 00:49:54,930
a certain period of time. Why?
Because they're using that 10

873
00:49:54,930 --> 00:50:01,830
fold to they basically lend it
10 times over It's just

874
00:50:02,220 --> 00:50:02,910
phenomenal.

875
00:50:03,149 --> 00:50:06,959
Well, on this subject of
coverless bankers, I met a

876
00:50:06,959 --> 00:50:09,449
number of the Rothschilds over
the over time and they reminded

877
00:50:09,449 --> 00:50:13,349
me of the character of a lot of
them. The British part of the

878
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:16,259
family. The character did you
ever see the movie The Good

879
00:50:16,259 --> 00:50:19,979
Shepherd? with Matt Damon
playing a CIA guy? Yes, I did.

880
00:50:21,149 --> 00:50:25,319
You know how he was basically
and, and oh, personality? Yeah.

881
00:50:25,979 --> 00:50:29,189
Yeah, that's kind of the way a
lot of these looks the way they

882
00:50:29,189 --> 00:50:29,399
are.

883
00:50:30,989 --> 00:50:33,149
personality of a dish rag
essentially.

884
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:41,010
actually enjoyed that movie?
Yeah, it was. It wasn't highly

885
00:50:41,010 --> 00:50:44,250
rated, you know, at first spy
movies, but it brings up a lot

886
00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:48,960
of interesting points, including
the skull and bones. They think

887
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,440
about it, and we have no
candidate running for president

888
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,250
currently, that's a member of
that organisation. Well, it's

889
00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:59,040
been, which is new in the
history. I mean, we might have

890
00:50:59,040 --> 00:50:59,910
to time there's always one of

891
00:50:59,909 --> 00:51:02,579
these guys running like it's
always there's always someone

892
00:51:02,579 --> 00:51:03,239
running right.

893
00:51:03,389 --> 00:51:06,569
But this guy, last guy, you
know, Bush has done such a

894
00:51:06,569 --> 00:51:09,689
crappy job at the whole they
should kick him out of the skull

895
00:51:09,689 --> 00:51:10,319
and bones. I

896
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,320
think I think McCain although
technically not a member, I

897
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,230
think he He's, uh, does
janitorial services for

898
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:16,620
Scotland.

899
00:51:18,810 --> 00:51:21,780
At least he's not a you know,
it's these Yalies? I mean, you

900
00:51:21,780 --> 00:51:24,030
know, William Buckley, and the
rest of them. They're all

901
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,500
characters.

902
00:51:26,639 --> 00:51:32,159
He passed away, didn't he? Yeah.
You know, my, my, my cousin is

903
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:37,019
married to Christopher Buckley
son. Has that right. Christopher

904
00:51:37,019 --> 00:51:38,699
is also a writer, obviously.

905
00:51:38,909 --> 00:51:41,699
Yeah, I think he's the editor.
Now the New Republic or the

906
00:51:41,699 --> 00:51:45,839
writer, the winner? With
National Review? Yeah,

907
00:51:45,989 --> 00:51:48,689
he's a nice guy. You know, I've
hung out with him a couple of

908
00:51:48,689 --> 00:51:52,379
times, you know, big family
gatherings. And these all right,

909
00:51:52,379 --> 00:51:54,179
you know, arrogant fuck, but
he's okay.

910
00:51:56,070 --> 00:51:59,220
You know, that was kind of
bread. He's probably I think

911
00:51:59,220 --> 00:52:04,590
he's a Yalie to be surprised if
he wasn't. So they all have

912
00:52:04,590 --> 00:52:09,240
that. That person now my cousin
divorced them. So, so you won't

913
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:16,740
see him anymore? No. No, they're
going to do a podcast. Oh,

914
00:52:16,769 --> 00:52:23,519
you know, I remember when you
everyone had AOL, and that was

915
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:26,669
your email. And that was kind of
your information source. And,

916
00:52:26,969 --> 00:52:30,869
you know, it was before in the
history of AOL at a certain

917
00:52:30,869 --> 00:52:34,109
point, they actually opened up
like pieces of the internet. And

918
00:52:34,109 --> 00:52:36,809
that could that could come in
through little gateways. And it

919
00:52:36,809 --> 00:52:41,369
still would be within the AOL
user interface. And, and, and

920
00:52:41,369 --> 00:52:44,069
within this universe, and it
was, you know, protected view of

921
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:47,579
sanitised for your protection.
So I remember having a

922
00:52:47,579 --> 00:52:49,619
conversation with him. And he
was like, you know, the

923
00:52:49,619 --> 00:52:52,049
internet, who cares? The
internet is stupid. That's

924
00:52:52,049 --> 00:52:56,339
nothing. It's like CB radio is
dumb. You know, AOL. I remember

925
00:52:56,339 --> 00:53:03,509
having quite a conversation with
him. And I think it was at least

926
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,159
six years, seven years later,
and several, several million

927
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:10,379
dollars in my pocket, and he had
to concede.

928
00:53:12,270 --> 00:53:17,940
No, it's about time. Yeah. But
anyway, no, I'm reminded of you

929
00:53:17,940 --> 00:53:20,010
know, there's a bunch of these
guys that are at a certain level

930
00:53:20,010 --> 00:53:25,020
of society, that they don't have
the either the wherewithal the

931
00:53:25,020 --> 00:53:28,320
time or the desire to really
learn anything at all about

932
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,080
computing computers, the
internet, I mean, they're, they

933
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,160
can get by

934
00:53:32,580 --> 00:53:35,910
maybe, because their secretary
does or email, the Secretary

935
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:39,090
does all the work. And the thing
is, is they make these, these

936
00:53:39,090 --> 00:53:42,060
ridiculous comments, everyone.
So I want to, I remember when I

937
00:53:42,060 --> 00:53:47,160
was writing for Forbes, I read
an editorial bias, Steve Forbes,

938
00:53:47,370 --> 00:53:51,060
who went on and on this was
like, you know, in the late 90s,

939
00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:54,450
or whenever, and it was about
how things are going to change

940
00:53:54,450 --> 00:53:56,940
in the next couple of years,
because computers are finally

941
00:53:56,940 --> 00:53:59,850
going to become appliances. And
you can just see was just a

942
00:53:59,850 --> 00:54:03,600
wishful thinking. Computers have
never and never will become

943
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,890
appliances don't have a smart
refrigerator. You know, they're

944
00:54:07,890 --> 00:54:10,890
not appliances. There's like a
car becoming an appliance, you

945
00:54:10,890 --> 00:54:15,900
have to learn how to drive one.
Yeah. I mean, it'd be nice if

946
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:18,150
you could just jump in a vehicle
punch in where you want to go

947
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:20,100
and boom, you're there. But
that's not the case. So what

948
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:26,010
bugs me is that there's never
any real encouragement, or they

949
00:54:26,010 --> 00:54:29,010
never really got to the right
tools to enable people to

950
00:54:29,010 --> 00:54:32,460
actually programme their
computers, you know, and there's

951
00:54:32,460 --> 00:54:36,120
been a lot of efforts. And if
you if you have half a brain,

952
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,090
you can learn to programme
something like Apple script or

953
00:54:39,090 --> 00:54:42,000
some other I think scripting
languages, mainly, but you know,

954
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,060
for your computer to do more,
you know, to automate stuff that

955
00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:47,730
is redundant for you on the
computer that I've never felt

956
00:54:47,730 --> 00:54:50,310
this. enough has been done that
way. It's always I agree

957
00:54:50,310 --> 00:54:54,150
with that. 1,000%. And in the
early days of the computers, the

958
00:54:54,180 --> 00:54:58,380
desktop computers from 1976 to
about 1986. That was encouraged

959
00:54:58,380 --> 00:55:01,230
a lot more. There was basic and
All these lands were easy to

960
00:55:01,230 --> 00:55:04,230
use, and then the professionals
came in, you know, they kind of

961
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:07,860
swept it away when See, which is
nothing you can casually learn,

962
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,650
and some of these other
languages became dominating. And

963
00:55:10,650 --> 00:55:12,660
then the next thing you know,
they just kind of gave up on it.

964
00:55:12,660 --> 00:55:14,730
And even with the macro
languages and some of these

965
00:55:14,730 --> 00:55:16,980
other things, they're, they're
either too complicated or

966
00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:20,880
stupid. And after the modem era
was over, when, you know, you

967
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,980
had to learn some macro
languages to make those things

968
00:55:22,980 --> 00:55:26,430
work properly. That was it, it
just died off. And now you don't

969
00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:29,250
do it, you now just punch a key,
you know, click on something,

970
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,310
you know, run a programme, click
on something else, get your

971
00:55:32,310 --> 00:55:33,780
email, do a search,

972
00:55:33,870 --> 00:55:37,200
have you? Have you ever tried
Automator? On the Mac? I think

973
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,590
it's called Automator? Isn't
that what it's called? It comes

974
00:55:40,590 --> 00:55:41,130
standard.

975
00:55:41,489 --> 00:55:45,959
I saw it sitting there. It's got
a robot icon and it's on the Mac

976
00:55:45,959 --> 00:55:50,999
I have at the office. Yeah. And
I've not, I've been meaning to

977
00:55:51,029 --> 00:55:52,289
click on it. Well, I actually

978
00:55:52,290 --> 00:55:55,320
got into Apple script a while
back, and I've always kind of

979
00:55:55,350 --> 00:55:58,980
kept up with it. You know, so
you have scriptable applications

980
00:55:58,980 --> 00:56:02,820
and, you know, passing data from
one process to the other. And,

981
00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:06,450
well, you saw, like, some of the
stuff that I've done with, with

982
00:56:06,450 --> 00:56:09,600
my setup with, you know,
understanding MIDI commands, and

983
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,020
it's really powerful, you know,
if you if you have some type of

984
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,860
control over what your computer
is doing, you know, which can

985
00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:21,870
involve multiple applications
or, or processes that you're

986
00:56:21,870 --> 00:56:24,450
probably doing by hand, you
know, yeah, no, you

987
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,860
you did as a phenomenon.
Phenomenal. But you took four

988
00:56:28,860 --> 00:56:29,760
years to do it?

989
00:56:30,989 --> 00:56:33,539
Well, yeah. Because the not that
I didn't understand what I

990
00:56:33,539 --> 00:56:36,509
wanted to do, or that I would
you know, or that I could put

991
00:56:36,509 --> 00:56:39,419
the effort into learning how to
do it. But literally, the tools

992
00:56:39,419 --> 00:56:45,299
were not available. So the buses
and you know, the audio

993
00:56:45,299 --> 00:56:50,639
interfaces and API's, I guess
you would call them or system

994
00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:53,879
hooks or whatever, and there was
just no tools to get to it. You

995
00:56:53,879 --> 00:56:55,979
know, I mean, yeah, if you're,
if you're a programmer, you

996
00:56:55,979 --> 00:56:59,009
couldn't you could delve in and
do something at a lower level

997
00:56:59,339 --> 00:57:03,869
type language like C. But for
just a guy who would, who

998
00:57:03,869 --> 00:57:06,539
couldn't understand the concept
of scripting and just want some

999
00:57:06,539 --> 00:57:12,449
stuff to happen or connect, you
know, thing a to widget B, I

1000
00:57:12,449 --> 00:57:15,749
just there was just no way to do
it. And so now there was a way

1001
00:57:15,749 --> 00:57:18,359
to do it and the particular
application I wanted to make

1002
00:57:18,359 --> 00:57:23,579
which involves a lot of heavy
audio processing. The machine

1003
00:57:23,579 --> 00:57:25,409
actually is strong enough to do
it now.

1004
00:57:27,989 --> 00:57:33,239
So my stepson says he'll help
you get the patent. Really if

1005
00:57:33,239 --> 00:57:35,129
you if you tell him what you
did?

1006
00:57:35,909 --> 00:57:40,679
Sure. Well, I thought we should
be a full full on family effort,

1007
00:57:40,679 --> 00:57:42,059
man. You got to be a part of
this.

1008
00:57:42,989 --> 00:57:45,719
Yeah, no, I mean, I'll show I
mean I've done it I've gotten

1009
00:57:45,989 --> 00:57:49,199
I've done patents Yeah, what I
would patent Do you own I did

1010
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:52,589
it. I don't own any patents but
I tell people do patents and

1011
00:57:52,739 --> 00:57:57,719
went through a real process with
the patent office with the years

1012
00:57:57,719 --> 00:58:04,439
ago with a guy came up with a a
weird, recycle recycling

1013
00:58:04,469 --> 00:58:09,209
separators guy used to work at a
scrap yard and invented this

1014
00:58:09,209 --> 00:58:13,289
crazy device, which sucks paper
out of it just you throw all

1015
00:58:13,289 --> 00:58:15,839
this stuff on this big spinning
thing with a vacuum behind it

1016
00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:20,639
it's suck salt, different
different things with different

1017
00:58:20,639 --> 00:58:23,789
densities onto it and then
shoots it off someplace on a

1018
00:58:23,819 --> 00:58:26,339
conveyor belt. You have to look
at some of these places these

1019
00:58:26,339 --> 00:58:30,959
huge scrap yards and how they
operate to see what you'll see

1020
00:58:30,959 --> 00:58:33,449
this kind of device anyway
helped me get patent

1021
00:58:33,659 --> 00:58:38,399
funny it's it's never really
interested me to go to a scrap

1022
00:58:38,399 --> 00:58:38,729
yard

1023
00:58:40,050 --> 00:58:42,420
Oh, it was in its air pollution
inspector and I had to go to

1024
00:58:42,420 --> 00:58:44,730
scrap yards to see what it
because it'd be smoke come I

1025
00:58:44,730 --> 00:58:47,760
was an air pollution inspector.
Oh, it wasn't an important

1026
00:58:48,060 --> 00:58:53,070
inspector gonna clean up all
your air gonna clean up. Like

1027
00:58:53,070 --> 00:58:53,340
that.

1028
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,690
Sounds like a song. Oh, terminal
five. Ready to happen. John, I

1029
00:58:57,690 --> 00:59:00,210
got some more some more cool
shit for you, man. You love

1030
00:59:00,210 --> 00:59:05,340
this. The Heathrow's terminal
five took 19 years of planning

1031
00:59:05,340 --> 00:59:12,510
and building costs $8 billion to
build opened up a fucking

1032
00:59:12,510 --> 00:59:18,840
disaster they've cancelled
hundreds of flights the

1033
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:21,540
something went wrong with the
baggage system and it always is

1034
00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:22,980
with the baggage system right?
It's

1035
00:59:22,980 --> 00:59:24,360
always the baggage system
whatever

1036
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,120
test these things are not
telling us exactly what went

1037
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,870
wrong but it's not the airport
because be a British Airways who

1038
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:35,130
has exclusive use of this
terminal. It has said you know

1039
00:59:35,130 --> 00:59:39,600
It's our mistake. It's our
fuckup it's not BA and in saying

1040
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,540
at the same time they're very
critical of BA who own all the

1041
00:59:42,540 --> 00:59:46,380
airports it's so that's British
Airport Authority. It's not

1042
00:59:46,380 --> 00:59:49,320
their fault. It has something to
do with their baggage handlers

1043
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,470
or I mean it's a staffing issue
clearly because everything else

1044
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:56,400
is apparently working. But
they've had people you know

1045
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,460
sleeping overnight, you know
people waiting for hours for

1046
00:59:59,460 --> 01:00:03,000
their bags. To get off of the
plane, not being able to check

1047
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,140
in with any baggage at all
except for hand luggage. It's

1048
01:00:07,140 --> 01:00:09,270
just been absolutely this is

1049
01:00:09,269 --> 01:00:12,389
disaster reason never to check
bags.

1050
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,930
Yeah no, but then you've got all
that liquid restricted to

1051
01:00:15,930 --> 01:00:18,900
restriction shit and I got
product baby. I got product from

1052
01:00:18,900 --> 01:00:21,210
my hair I got product from my
face I got a product for all

1053
01:00:21,210 --> 01:00:24,210
kinds of stuff and it's not only
100 millilitre bottles,

1054
01:00:25,830 --> 01:00:28,440
put it in 100 millilitre
bottles. How much of this stuff

1055
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,790
do you need? ever travelled?
Somebody takes big giant bottles

1056
01:00:32,790 --> 01:00:35,850
of shampoo. I mean, it was like
what? Oh, but I have a lot of

1057
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:36,810
around all this stuff.

1058
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,930
I have a lot of small bottles. I
got product. I'm like, I'm like

1059
01:00:39,930 --> 01:00:40,500
a woman.

1060
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:48,450
No comment. So x change your
ways.

1061
01:00:49,319 --> 01:00:52,949
You are right, though. You are
absolutely right. It's a but

1062
01:00:52,949 --> 01:00:57,629
sometimes you got to clothing.
The dog is pissed off. He's

1063
01:00:57,629 --> 01:00:59,099
saying it's time to wrap it up.

1064
01:00:59,790 --> 01:01:01,860
We actually got about eight
minutes left. Before we get to

1065
01:01:01,860 --> 01:01:04,650
the 70 minute mark. We are this
shows have been going on a long

1066
01:01:04,650 --> 01:01:05,190
time.

1067
01:01:05,699 --> 01:01:08,279
But it's I'm not getting it like
well, the only people who

1068
01:01:08,279 --> 01:01:10,739
complain about it are those two,
Jabra Ionis. But I know Hey,

1069
01:01:10,739 --> 01:01:12,329
anyone else complaining about
the length?

1070
01:01:13,110 --> 01:01:16,140
Well, it just seems to me that
should fit on a one CD. But

1071
01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:20,190
yeah, no, I mean, I don't care.
Seems like it. Okay, I got a

1072
01:01:20,190 --> 01:01:22,620
couple more complaints. If
anybody wants to hear him.

1073
01:01:22,650 --> 01:01:26,250
Let me see. Yeah, well, yeah,
we'll take another complaint.

1074
01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:34,170
So Jose Canseco is the guy's
baseball player is the guy who

1075
01:01:34,170 --> 01:01:37,920
was responsible for the steroid
thing in baseball being blown

1076
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,530
wide open with this book that he
did, I think as a couple years

1077
01:01:40,530 --> 01:01:44,790
ago, called juiced. And he named
all the people that he had

1078
01:01:44,790 --> 01:01:46,950
helped get in. He's a big
stellar promoter

1079
01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:52,080
juice, which of course is the
exact same name as the video.

1080
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:58,380
Video, a programme juiced you
spell it differently, but juice

1081
01:01:58,380 --> 01:01:59,640
j o s t,

1082
01:02:00,030 --> 01:02:04,320
it is the same pronunciation
juiced. But anyway, he named all

1083
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,850
these names. And he actually
when it comes on, he's like a

1084
01:02:05,850 --> 01:02:09,990
big steroid user, he probably
has a prescription I don't know

1085
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:13,140
what but he's, he stays pumped
up on the side. He's huge. And

1086
01:02:13,140 --> 01:02:17,100
he thinks is the greatest thing
ever. And then he talked in, I

1087
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:20,130
guess a lot of baseball players
found it was very useful because

1088
01:02:20,580 --> 01:02:23,580
it was a it was a myth that
well, you know, people always I

1089
01:02:23,580 --> 01:02:25,890
remember during the era when it
was really being discussed a lot

1090
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,650
was well, you know, you can take
all the steroids you want but

1091
01:02:28,650 --> 01:02:31,590
that doesn't mean you're gonna
hit a 90 mile an hour fastball,

1092
01:02:31,590 --> 01:02:34,650
you know, that takes other
skills. It turned out that a lot

1093
01:02:34,650 --> 01:02:38,160
of steroid use doesn't, it
actually increases all kinds of

1094
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,060
things other than just pure
strength. It also makes you more

1095
01:02:42,060 --> 01:02:45,000
likely to hit a 90 mile an hour
fastball if you were whipping at

1096
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,630
it. But anyway, so it was like
So Joe became a scandal. And so

1097
01:02:48,630 --> 01:02:52,260
now he's got another book coming
out where he's naming more names

1098
01:02:52,890 --> 01:02:56,730
and which helps keep this
controversy going for a while so

1099
01:02:56,730 --> 01:03:01,860
I'm watching the TV version of
the Jim Rome, Rome is burning

1100
01:03:01,860 --> 01:03:06,330
Shan Jamel Hill was on and she
brings up this topic and she

1101
01:03:06,330 --> 01:03:08,520
said something interesting to me
that just kind of kind of

1102
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,210
triggered a thought or two which
was that she says that the

1103
01:03:12,210 --> 01:03:15,210
problem with all this that these
accusations that can Seiko makes

1104
01:03:15,210 --> 01:03:19,020
in the book he says he gave
somebody the needle in the but

1105
01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:22,620
and then he can get he told us
that he hooked up some other guy

1106
01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:25,260
with a with a drug dealer and
all the rest of the promises no

1107
01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:29,010
second source there's no second
source for this information. Oh,

1108
01:03:29,010 --> 01:03:31,170
second sources became a big
thing in journalism. Oh, there's

1109
01:03:31,170 --> 01:03:34,050
no second source, no second
source, you have to triangulate.

1110
01:03:34,470 --> 01:03:38,190
So I had to start thinking about
the second source concept. And I

1111
01:03:38,220 --> 01:03:41,340
realised that damning way when
he's reporting about World War

1112
01:03:41,340 --> 01:03:46,620
Two was just reporting what he
saw George sells a famous

1113
01:03:46,650 --> 01:03:49,590
correspondent he was he would
write about what the what the

1114
01:03:49,620 --> 01:03:51,510
what they're doing and it would
go into the newspapers, there

1115
01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:55,050
was no second source for
correspondence, they would go

1116
01:03:55,050 --> 01:03:58,890
someplace take a look at
something and report on it. They

1117
01:03:58,890 --> 01:04:01,950
didn't have to say well, they'll
die see that big oak tree over

1118
01:04:01,950 --> 01:04:06,630
there? Is is dying. Let me get a
second source in here to confirm

1119
01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:08,580
what I'm seeing. I mean doesn't

1120
01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:13,230
always so your beef is that all
of a sudden there seems to be

1121
01:04:13,230 --> 01:04:17,970
some unwritten new journalistic
rule which is not official.

1122
01:04:19,619 --> 01:04:24,179
Well, yeah, that's one of my
beats but but what it boils down

1123
01:04:24,179 --> 01:04:26,789
to in fact in straight
reporting, where you're

1124
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:29,699
essentially staying in the
office and phoning people you're

1125
01:04:29,699 --> 01:04:32,789
supposed to get not only a quote
from one person with a counter

1126
01:04:32,789 --> 01:04:34,979
quote from somebody else in a
natural Cody suppose get the

1127
01:04:34,979 --> 01:04:37,259
three quotes and you supposed to
have a second source for

1128
01:04:37,259 --> 01:04:39,929
anything that but if you
actually are witnessing the

1129
01:04:39,929 --> 01:04:43,379
situation or you're a
participant, why would you need

1130
01:04:43,379 --> 01:04:46,529
a second source? You're just
saying what you saw Ah, okay, I

1131
01:04:46,529 --> 01:04:48,149
don't need a second source to
say that.

1132
01:04:48,719 --> 01:04:51,779
No, no, no, I got it. I gotta
live here. Let me tax up mon for

1133
01:04:51,779 --> 01:04:56,219
you. This is more of the don't
edit your own Wikipedia page

1134
01:04:56,219 --> 01:05:00,269
bullshit. Which is another
that's that's where I've fucked

1135
01:05:00,269 --> 01:05:04,139
up. I didn't know that you mean,
certainly not. Three years ago,

1136
01:05:04,289 --> 01:05:06,449
I didn't know that you weren't
supposed to edit your own

1137
01:05:06,449 --> 01:05:09,899
Wikipedia page. Wasn't I fucking
there though? Am I not some kind

1138
01:05:09,899 --> 01:05:14,369
of authority? That's that's what
this is. It's it's a cultural

1139
01:05:14,369 --> 01:05:15,059
shift. There's

1140
01:05:15,060 --> 01:05:17,730
a lot of mistakes in the
Wikipedia that could be easily

1141
01:05:17,730 --> 01:05:21,510
corrected by the person that
this that the post is about.

1142
01:05:21,540 --> 01:05:27,270
Yeah. So it's actually idiotic,
not to edit your own Wikipedia

1143
01:05:27,270 --> 01:05:29,730
page. So you can maintain
accuracy. The reason of course,

1144
01:05:29,730 --> 01:05:31,140
they know what you're doing is
because you're going to take out

1145
01:05:31,140 --> 01:05:33,390
into all the negative stuff
about what's what's negative

1146
01:05:33,390 --> 01:05:37,230
stuff about people, unless
they're criminals, even in there

1147
01:05:37,230 --> 01:05:41,250
for I mean, the Wikipedia thing
is sketchy in a lot of ways. But

1148
01:05:41,250 --> 01:05:43,770
the second source thing, you
know, because we got to, I've

1149
01:05:43,770 --> 01:05:46,830
got a new correspondent I'm
gonna be working with it was a

1150
01:05:46,830 --> 01:05:52,500
Chinese guy goes to China a lot.
And who's, I think he's calling

1151
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:56,250
himself Hong Mao Tang, I think
something like that.

1152
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,070
Like, it's an alias, like, he
doesn't have a real morning. He

1153
01:05:59,070 --> 01:06:01,830
was just in he was just in
Tibet. And he's and he's

1154
01:06:01,830 --> 01:06:03,840
essentially just goes and he's,
and he's gonna be replaying, I'm

1155
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,030
not gonna get any second source,
I think, what do I need a second

1156
01:06:06,030 --> 01:06:09,330
source? You don't need a second
source when somebody's there

1157
01:06:09,330 --> 01:06:13,560
reporting. And so I find it
weird that she would say this

1158
01:06:13,590 --> 01:06:17,160
woman on the show was say that
can say God needed a second

1159
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,860
source. And I realised that
that's, that's a bunch of

1160
01:06:19,860 --> 01:06:22,230
malarkey. You don't need a
second source, when you're just

1161
01:06:23,490 --> 01:06:26,610
90% of the time. If you're
there, you don't need a second

1162
01:06:26,610 --> 01:06:30,330
source. You're looking you're
reporting. What do you need a

1163
01:06:30,330 --> 01:06:32,220
second source foreign? Why is
this come up in the

1164
01:06:32,220 --> 01:06:32,940
conversation?

1165
01:06:34,380 --> 01:06:37,650
Okay, well, I've given you my
input, I can't help you anymore

1166
01:06:37,650 --> 01:06:38,130
with that one.

1167
01:06:38,159 --> 01:06:41,009
No, no, I appreciate that, too.
But I just think it's a it's an

1168
01:06:41,009 --> 01:06:44,099
interesting phenomenon. We're
all you know, well, you can say

1169
01:06:44,099 --> 01:06:46,439
all that all you want. But I'd
like to see a second source and

1170
01:06:46,439 --> 01:06:47,969
a second opinion. It's like you
go into another

1171
01:06:47,969 --> 01:06:53,429
diet or a second source. Oh,
well, I guess no one to know and

1172
01:06:53,429 --> 01:06:55,799
trust anyone anymore. And you
know, and even if you have

1173
01:06:55,799 --> 01:06:59,639
second, third and fourth source,
yeah, the truth is, is wherever

1174
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:02,489
your perception was at that
time, I think there's always

1175
01:07:02,519 --> 01:07:05,069
three or four sides to the
truth. It's just the way it is.

1176
01:07:06,420 --> 01:07:10,320
Yeah, maybe the women have any
complaints this week. I'm just

1177
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,470
sitting here, griping all the
time. No, no, I got a big gripe.

1178
01:07:13,500 --> 01:07:16,140
You know what I'm actually
pretty happy. Because Patricia

1179
01:07:16,140 --> 01:07:20,040
is has been in Holland all week
doing the Holland Got Talent.

1180
01:07:21,210 --> 01:07:24,480
Show No, no, this is great
night. I love the name. What

1181
01:07:24,810 --> 01:07:28,020
comes from America got talent
and Britain got talent. Now,

1182
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:30,990
this is a huge formula. This is
like Dancing with the Stars type

1183
01:07:30,990 --> 01:07:34,200
of audience like Pop Idol,
American Idol. I mean, this is a

1184
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:39,450
worldwide successful format. So
you know that it's almost no

1185
01:07:39,450 --> 01:07:42,360
risk when you walk into when
someone says, Do you want to do

1186
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,020
this show? Because it's, you
know, these shows don't fail

1187
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:48,780
anywhere, the formula is
tweaked, it's perfect. But of

1188
01:07:48,780 --> 01:07:54,600
course, you know, if you are a
good judge, you know, that can,

1189
01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:57,540
that's, that's really important
for the show. So really, the

1190
01:07:57,540 --> 01:08:02,640
casting and it is casting of the
judges in these reality shows,

1191
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,660
it makes all the difference. And
it's not just how, how

1192
01:08:06,660 --> 01:08:10,410
knowledgeable you are about
either singing or in this case,

1193
01:08:10,410 --> 01:08:15,030
it's a wide variety of
performance. Art, I'd say. But

1194
01:08:15,030 --> 01:08:19,020
it's also your reactions. And
you know, and it's really about

1195
01:08:19,020 --> 01:08:21,060
how you approach it. And you
know, they always want to have

1196
01:08:21,060 --> 01:08:26,190
the Simon Cowell type person,
maybe the softer person. And

1197
01:08:26,190 --> 01:08:30,600
really what works and what is
always this the core of the of

1198
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,260
the success of this formula is
one person who was just honest,

1199
01:08:34,380 --> 01:08:37,950
not a dick, it may come across
that way, but the person is just

1200
01:08:38,010 --> 01:08:42,090
honest. And that is my wife to
the tee. And but she can

1201
01:08:42,090 --> 01:08:44,940
actually say things so honestly,
that is, you know, just cut your

1202
01:08:44,940 --> 01:08:49,410
legs off at the knee, but you
still feel good about it. So the

1203
01:08:49,410 --> 01:08:53,580
first episode aired last night,
huge ratings like a 20 Share

1204
01:08:53,580 --> 01:08:57,270
just off the charts. And so
that's been exciting. He or she

1205
01:08:57,270 --> 01:09:01,680
has worked really, really hard
on it. And and you literally you

1206
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:06,660
work all for a couple of weeks,
and then you know, they

1207
01:09:06,660 --> 01:09:09,510
broadcast the next morning.
That's your that's your number

1208
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:13,020
right. That's your report card.
That's what it's all about in

1209
01:09:13,020 --> 01:09:14,040
that arena

1210
01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:17,850
after after the show airs. I
mean, do they? Do they put them

1211
01:09:17,850 --> 01:09:20,520
all in the can quickly? I mean,
they don't do this. You have to

1212
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,020
go back every week. No,

1213
01:09:22,050 --> 01:09:24,060
well, yeah. So here's the here's
the way it works. So they've

1214
01:09:24,060 --> 01:09:28,470
done this completed now two
weeks of the of taping in the

1215
01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:31,170
theatre with a with an audience,
but it's kind of like the

1216
01:09:31,170 --> 01:09:35,280
audition round if you will. So
until 90% is going to go away.

1217
01:09:35,730 --> 01:09:39,960
And then they have the next
round which will be for live

1218
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,890
shows in May. And that's really
counting down you know, to the

1219
01:09:43,890 --> 01:09:47,220
final person so those will be
done live, but I think they've

1220
01:09:47,220 --> 01:09:51,510
probably done shit. I don't know
they must have done eight, maybe

1221
01:09:51,510 --> 01:09:55,020
eight episodes that will be the
the audition rounds which of

1222
01:09:55,020 --> 01:09:57,630
course are a lot of what the fun
is about and then by the time

1223
01:09:57,630 --> 01:10:01,050
you've finally become endeared
to Ya know, the

1224
01:10:01,050 --> 01:10:02,760
audition rounds, as far as I'm
concerned is the only

1225
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,490
entertainment on these shows.
Yeah, the because

1226
01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:08,009
then you get hooked, you get
hooked on, on, you know, someone

1227
01:10:08,009 --> 01:10:11,099
that you just really turn on to.
And then that pulls you into the

1228
01:10:11,129 --> 01:10:13,769
watching the live shows and
voting and all that excitement,

1229
01:10:13,769 --> 01:10:15,689
it's fabulous. It's if you're

1230
01:10:15,809 --> 01:10:19,889
lucky to get hooked. But anyway,
the So you're telling me so the

1231
01:10:19,919 --> 01:10:22,859
show the formula, the way they
do this, they shoot like, like,

1232
01:10:23,039 --> 01:10:25,709
what eight to 10 shows and they
get those in the cancer, they

1233
01:10:25,709 --> 01:10:28,829
just work real hard to get those
done, and then they have to go

1234
01:10:28,829 --> 01:10:31,589
back then they have to actually
go live because someone's fallen

1235
01:10:31,589 --> 01:10:34,439
into the rest of it. Yeah, week
after week after week. And

1236
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,269
that's kind of the that must be
the grind.

1237
01:10:36,899 --> 01:10:40,949
Well know that those four live
shows are great, because you

1238
01:10:40,949 --> 01:10:43,439
know, the show was only going to
last, you know, an hour and a

1239
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,869
half or whatever it is, that's
live television is great,

1240
01:10:45,869 --> 01:10:48,599
because you start and it's just
going to end at some point,

1241
01:10:48,599 --> 01:10:51,269
whatever you do, and it's over,
you know, there's no going back

1242
01:10:51,269 --> 01:10:56,909
and fixing it. So, you know,
these shows every day from like,

1243
01:10:56,969 --> 01:11:00,749
one in the afternoon until 10 At
night, you know, one after

1244
01:11:00,749 --> 01:11:03,959
another. I mean, it's an it's an
it's not front to back shows.

1245
01:11:05,039 --> 01:11:09,329
They do openings and closes etc.
But it's really just all

1246
01:11:09,329 --> 01:11:11,699
performances, they're sitting
there watching one after

1247
01:11:11,699 --> 01:11:14,639
another. And it seems like
grandma's on rollerblades, it's

1248
01:11:14,639 --> 01:11:17,759
you know, all kinds of crazy
shit. And a lot of it is just,

1249
01:11:18,119 --> 01:11:21,209
you know, I was there the last
time when Patricia was doing the

1250
01:11:21,209 --> 01:11:27,239
first week of shows, and the
judges are just so so tired

1251
01:11:27,269 --> 01:11:31,169
after you know, one of these
days of taping and just

1252
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:35,309
emotionally drained from looking
at, you know, some really bad

1253
01:11:35,309 --> 01:11:36,599
performances.

1254
01:11:37,050 --> 01:11:40,140
So do they have dude and they do
a wardrobe change? I would

1255
01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:44,490
assume we can shoot for an hour
and then you change and you go

1256
01:11:44,490 --> 01:11:45,120
back and

1257
01:11:45,690 --> 01:11:51,240
yeah, I mean, this is all post
production in it's believed me.

1258
01:11:52,350 --> 01:11:55,800
Yeah, I think the person who
deserves to win always wins. But

1259
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,220
man this thing is it's all
postproduction it's they really

1260
01:11:59,220 --> 01:12:01,890
put this together well, it's
art. I mean, what an art form

1261
01:12:01,890 --> 01:12:04,890
and it just makes for a fun fun
entertaining show and laugh

1262
01:12:04,890 --> 01:12:07,800
about some people and get
emotionally involved with others

1263
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,590
and has no other redeeming
quality or value.

1264
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:15,870
Yep, no value whatsoever. In
fact, I was watching the fact I

1265
01:12:15,870 --> 01:12:18,000
can't even watch much television
networks are always wondering

1266
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:22,440
what's what's going on. You
watch shows like what's that one

1267
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:24,300
with Howie Mandel? Well, you
guessed it.

1268
01:12:24,539 --> 01:12:30,149
Oh, yeah, I like that. It's
well, you have dealer no deal.

1269
01:12:30,179 --> 01:12:32,909
And then Dennis Miller is doing
a show now I think amnesia is

1270
01:12:32,969 --> 01:12:37,379
it's worse. The like, dealer no
deal. That's a great show.

1271
01:12:37,530 --> 01:12:40,740
It's an idiotic show. There's no
questions. There's no skills.

1272
01:12:40,740 --> 01:12:43,530
It's just like you guess in any
watch people go off the deep end

1273
01:12:43,530 --> 01:12:45,090
because they think they're going
to make more money because they

1274
01:12:45,090 --> 01:12:49,050
can't do simple math. And look
up on this screen and say yeah,

1275
01:12:49,050 --> 01:12:53,940
no, I think $250,000 is enough.
I doubt that I picked a million

1276
01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:57,240
dollars in his in this suitcase
I'm sitting next to besides even

1277
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,460
if it is why should I go through
all the anguish? And it's

1278
01:12:59,460 --> 01:13:02,310
probably not it's probably five
bucks. But no, I'm not going to

1279
01:13:02,310 --> 01:13:05,940
take the $250,000 quarter of a
million even though I'm not

1280
01:13:05,940 --> 01:13:07,470
making any money and I'm poor.

1281
01:13:07,499 --> 01:13:09,689
So listen to so often they walk

1282
01:13:09,690 --> 01:13:10,710
off with five bucks

1283
01:13:10,740 --> 01:13:14,970
then you wait, you need to see a
different show. You need to

1284
01:13:14,970 --> 01:13:18,540
watch the show that Jerry
Springer hosts and it's it's

1285
01:13:18,540 --> 01:13:20,370
called nothing but the truth.

1286
01:13:21,150 --> 01:13:24,810
Okay, I've watched that show
once it's unwatchable. I love

1287
01:13:24,810 --> 01:13:29,010
that show. I love that shows.
This is the this is my favourite

1288
01:13:29,010 --> 01:13:32,760
question. Okay, so it's always
around the $5,000 mark. And of

1289
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,070
course, it's all based on lie
detector stuff, which is all

1290
01:13:35,070 --> 01:13:37,890
totally sketchy. But let's just
say that, you know, this is I

1291
01:13:37,890 --> 01:13:40,560
mean, it really comes down to
people saying things in front of

1292
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,840
their friends and family who are
sitting there. So the question I

1293
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:48,510
love the most is, have you ever
fantasise about gay sex? I love

1294
01:13:48,510 --> 01:13:53,100
that question. It's so funny.
And you see these guys just

1295
01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:56,820
going like Oh, fuck, man, you
know, if I lie, then I'm going

1296
01:13:56,820 --> 01:14:00,660
to lose the $5,000 But if I say
yes, it's like I'm never gonna

1297
01:14:00,660 --> 01:14:03,180
live this down. You know my
homies are gonna be laughing

1298
01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:03,330
Yeah,

1299
01:14:03,330 --> 01:14:07,320
that shows is rigged. Weird.
Anyway, basically, the questions

1300
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,500
and answers are all pre
prepared. Yeah. I don't like

1301
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:12,330
that. Yeah. And you know,

1302
01:14:12,690 --> 01:14:13,680
that it doesn't matter.

1303
01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:17,790
But that part is so entertaining
makes you itch. It makes you

1304
01:14:17,790 --> 01:14:20,700
scratch it makes you it makes
you cringe the watch that show

1305
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:23,970
that show is an example of
what's wrong with television. It

1306
01:14:23,970 --> 01:14:28,290
shouldn't be to watch it. They
should shoot the people who

1307
01:14:28,290 --> 01:14:28,920
produce it.

1308
01:14:30,990 --> 01:14:32,790
I love that show. John.

1309
01:14:33,270 --> 01:14:35,310
You have the worst taste in
television.

1310
01:14:35,340 --> 01:14:39,270
Oh please vote oh look just
because I'm on the cutting edge

1311
01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:42,900
on the work and tip of what's
going on in media today. Doesn't

1312
01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:43,770
mean I have horrible

1313
01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:47,190
media goes off the cliff. But
look, the

1314
01:14:47,460 --> 01:14:51,030
these shows are not going off
the cliff. These are the only

1315
01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:54,090
shows that will be left because
they're inexpensive to produce

1316
01:14:54,180 --> 01:14:59,610
highly entertaining, no other
not offensive or or useful in

1317
01:14:59,610 --> 01:15:04,320
any way. Other way whatsoever.
It is chewing gum for the brain.

1318
01:15:04,350 --> 01:15:08,340
It is fantastic. I love it. It's
good for us. Everything else

1319
01:15:08,370 --> 01:15:09,570
should be done online. It's

1320
01:15:10,290 --> 01:15:14,700
not good for us. It's probably
the most detrimental programming

1321
01:15:14,700 --> 01:15:18,480
in the world. It's turning the
public into a bunch of jackasses

1322
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:21,480
that don't know anything about
anything. A good show and

1323
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:25,620
current events is what we need.
People are so stupid. It's

1324
01:15:25,620 --> 01:15:29,130
because of these shows. They're
just stupefied by it. It is

1325
01:15:29,130 --> 01:15:33,750
worse than the worst kind of
drug. Well,

1326
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:41,880
I don't know what to say now.
You've hurt my feelings. Well,

1327
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:46,080
let me just think. I don't know
if I you know, 75 minutes forget

1328
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,970
about it. I'm gonna think let me
think about this. And I'll get

1329
01:15:47,970 --> 01:15:54,840
back to you next. That's my new
signal. The time is up, John.

1330
01:15:55,499 --> 01:15:58,349
You so you're gonna let me
you're gonna let it end with my

1331
01:15:58,349 --> 01:16:00,599
rant about your tastes and
television. Yep,

1332
01:16:00,690 --> 01:16:02,130
I'm just going to have to end it
there.

1333
01:16:03,030 --> 01:16:04,020
Well, okay.

1334
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,250
You got that you got me? You got
me. What can I say?

1335
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,160
You'll have to come back with
something next week then.

1336
01:16:11,249 --> 01:16:19,889
Yes. Now that we have an agenda
or anything you really got me

1337
01:16:19,919 --> 01:16:21,359
you got me going there for a
moment

1338
01:16:24,810 --> 01:16:27,720
but I but I think I'm afraid if
we get into it that the show

1339
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,270
will be two hours. You know what
I mean? Yeah, you we should do

1340
01:16:30,270 --> 01:16:33,780
save that topics and on a high
we're ending on a high so that

1341
01:16:33,780 --> 01:16:36,180
people can they're already
yelling the fact that a lot of

1342
01:16:36,180 --> 01:16:39,390
people are going to help me
formulate my my rebuttal next

1343
01:16:39,390 --> 01:16:48,450
week. Good luck with that. All
right. So you're doing twit

1344
01:16:48,450 --> 01:16:49,830
today? Not tomorrow?

1345
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:54,690
No. I think the Leo took off.
He's travelling somewhere in

1346
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:55,680
Mongolia are

1347
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,310
so good. Because then we get a
lot more listeners. I think that

1348
01:16:59,310 --> 01:17:06,240
could be Yeah. And also a lot of
people who are like Dvorak,

1349
01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:10,770
DeVore I grew, groupies are
showing up. It's about time.

1350
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:17,700
Yeah. All right, my friend. And
that was entertaining. I think.

1351
01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:21,390
Yeah. And we'll be back again
next week with more good stuff

1352
01:17:21,420 --> 01:17:22,260
for sure.

1353
01:17:22,380 --> 01:17:26,460
From the curry manner in a wet
Britain. My name is Adam curry.

1354
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,210
And I'm John C. Dvorak in a das
slightly wet Northern

1355
01:17:30,210 --> 01:17:30,840
California.

1356
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,720
We'll talk to you again next
week right here on no agenda.