Have you ever seen the Vagina Monologues Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak. Sunday, August 29 2010. Time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 230.
This is no agenda. Coming to you from the hilltop
Watchtower crackpot command center and get my nation West
and the People's Republic of Southern California in the
morning. I am the member of the Citizen Corps known as Adam
curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley, where our weather is
back to normal, which means it sucks. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Yeah, it's actually cold this weekend here in in Southern
California. Yay, as well. Never I mean, cold is relative of
course, cold night in the East Coast sense. You know? No, not
at all. Cold in the West Coast sense. Yeah.
People here like, wow, we haven't had a summer I'm you
know, like, this is just fine for me. It's just fine. I'm
gonna have a
summer in October for sure. Yeah, this is
yesterday. And today. It's actually yesterday was
beautiful. And Mickey was like, Hey, let's go on a hike. Let's
go on a nature walk and why if you like it. And then so there's
this these hills behind us. And then she takes me through this
path. So have you ever been here before says no. And we wind up
down at the reservoir? And no one else is there? I think. I
think we were trespassing. And then we had to climb back up the
hill. There's no gates. No, no. No stairs? No, nothing. Just
just the hill falling apart under our feet. And it was and
that was very warm. Very, very warm. But it's cool to to walk
around these hills.
It is. Yeah, it is. It's okay. Because there's no you're up in
the hill. Right. You're up on the side of a hill
it right. But it's right by the water reservoir and went down.
There's this Lake Station. You see the water reservoir from
where you are. I went down to the water's edge. Yeah, I mean,
did you poop? I could have thrown anything in there
anything I want. I could have poisoned all of Los Angeles
easily and they got like all kinds of cameras. I
think they've done enough calculations on that
now they've got but they got all these cameras hanging
everywhere. You know, it's not like anyone came to to arrest us
or anything.
Anyway, doesn't matter. But they're gonna hope that maybe
they were hoping that you'd start doing something cool.
They were recording pedo bear was watching. Hey, do something
cool. Come on, guys. Do something cool. Come on. Come
on. Oh, well, John.
We've got a couple of executive producers mostly get them away
at the top of the show. Okay. We've got one executive producer
and three associates. And let's begin by one and actually two of
them have become will become knights today. Nice. Sean
Connolly from Naperville, Illinois. He will become a
knight Troy Walters who has already searched for Troy.
Anyway, Shawn, give us 333 33 And then Troy gave us is Troy
also an exec. He's an associate. Exactly, exactly. Okay. And he's
from tour AK Victoria, Australia. We have two
Australian associate producers today. So So Sir Troy gave us
252 and $50 George tanjun I think it's pronounced tanjun or
tayangan. No Tang and yet because pronounced like the like
the breakfast drink he says so it'd be Tang and George tan, Jr.
Just hanging in there. I think they're
really drank that stuff. And when they went to the moon,
yeah. What's in that
powder?
What's in that powder? Can't be good.
No. Inner Grove Heights. It was a popular drink for you. I used
to I used to drink it all the time kid. Yeah, you'd mix it up
and tetanus distinctively tastes like Tang. Yeah.
And, and your mom would say listen to astronauts drink it.
It's good for you. I have no idea if there are any redeeming
qualities in tango at all.
It's possible. You don't know. It didn't kill you. Inner Grove
Heights Minnesota $250. Matthew Kerry to soon be sir Matthew
Carrie, from Eastwood, South Australia. $200. Adam and John,
you inspired me when writing songs for my new musical. It's a
dad's thing. When character bemoans the fact that
is this about kids on a leash?
Yes, exactly. So it says his and his wife had young children they
haven't had the time or energy to fool around at night like
they used to their solution. They now regularly do it in the
morning. Hey, do
I hear the train talking a lot there?
Yeah, there was there's a bunch of work going on down in the
tracks. So they're just honking like crazy. It's driving me
nuts. are you
funded by Hill and Knowlton secretly somehow because all
these subliminal train horns that come through all the guys
you mentioned wanting to make you wonder? Yeah, you should.
Yes. You know, there's so many people who should be sending us
money.
Neil and Bill, they should be you right. It's a good point.
Absolutely. Although I'm always moving About this thing down
good thing goes at 20 miles an hour's is ludicrous. Anyway,
they're gonna do it in the morning we premiered the show on
Friday night and the song was a big hit with the audience
send us a copy man send me a copy of the song I want to hear
it
because he said yep send us a Matthew sir Matthew send us some
stuff he's he's not officially sir yet but he will be he will
be later a and he's a playwright. It seems and
producer and songwriter so cool. Kenny Dan, and
was that is that is that our
that's our lineup. Sean Troy George Matthew
a couple of PR mentions if you saw this email John instead of
set forward you forwarding you the email and then us both
forgetting about it. I thought I'd just bring it up here note
from Chris happens right? I know Chris hilarious for the email I
never hear whatever law I send it to you Well, I
send it back
ether meeting God dammit. So we don't need so Chris was inspired
by the no agenda fans coin challenge and he was wondering
about making a pair of dice in the morning dice and he would
want he wanted to he would want to do it in a similar fashion he
said it can be it can be a cheaper product. Now what he
does say is that you know I want to have a picture of of you and
I on the sixth on each of the die. I don't know if I like
that. I don't like I don't think we should we use our faces for
that and show us so much bigger than us. For me what you just
been in the morning or something.
There's something kind of cute about having the two heads crop
up though.
Yeah, but you know, it's okay, but next, it's bobble dolls. And
then it's no no,
we're not doing bobblehead dolls or capes, we're not doing capes
with a built in bat signal. And then Enzo finally got his crap
together and said I've got no agenda.com Here's the deal. Go
to God, no agenda.com You can get an email account, which
would be your name at gut no agenda.com, two gigs of storage
for two years for $33.33. That works out to $1.39 a month. The
other option is to get a forwarding from God no
agenda.com, two years for $22.22 which is 93 cents a month and
66.6% of all revenue will go to the show. That's kind of
cool. Sounds reasonable?
Yeah. I think that's that's a nice initiative. So we want to
thank our executive producers for today's episode. Actually
executive producer Sean Connolly. It's highly
appreciated Associate Executive Producers Sir Troy Walters,
George Tangen and the soon to be sir Matthew Kerry. We really
appreciate you guys supporting the show. This of course is an
official credit you can if you have an IMDB listing, you can
add it right there. I think you can actually call sag and tell
them to to add it to your list or AFTRA for that reason, or any
other guild because it's a real credit you actually are an
executive producer you did no less than anyone who's an
executive producer on a movie, you you actually help fund the
show and we highly appreciate it everybody else out there. You
know that we have one thing I want you all to go out and do is
propagate the formula? Our formula is this. We go out. We
hit people in the mouth
come on everybody. Shut up. You didn't comment on the rings.
What do you think of? Sir Paul couture lord of the rings,
rings.
I didn't get that email. All right.
I forwarded it to you because I knew you hadn't seen it because
you didn't respond. So I forwarded to you have to look at
it's got he's got a man. He's got to design everything. He's
got the pricing.
We'll just go with it. And
well, I want you to check just to make sure of it. Yes, you're
good. You're
high on it. He Paul's got good taste. I
want you to just check it just just to make sure just to make
sure. Oh, there it is. Oh, gee, I found it all I get a lot of
emails and annoying. That's so dry, man. What are you talking
to? But they're made of Rearden steel. Which is great.
Yeah. But I think they look all you have to do is just hit a
tuning fork in the road and steel turns into powder
to Tang i like it. I think that I think the good looking. And
they come in like we can do five different sizes.
It's got it backwards. I mean, he's got it right. It's got a
signet ring. Yeah, exactly. It's got everything lined up. He's
got two designs and you want the one on the top of the one.
Oh no, I don't know. We'll have to have a meet thing later.
We don't want a meeting.
I don't know I don't have it in front of me. I did neither one
tip
top one is the way to go because it uses the word Knight and the
other one just looks like you're it looks like some. You look
like lexique who just graduated from MIT? Well, the only
thing is he says he wants to do a run of a ring separately. That
aren't night rings. I don't think that's a good idea. I
think a ring is only if you're a night that should be no regular
rings, or do you think we should have regular rings?
I am going to think about it. I do like the number three in the
logo there. That's kind of cool.
You see that? It's got Latin for hit people in the mouth. It's
got ITM. It's got night. It's got the little helm helmet thing
there. It's got the number three minutes complete. You hit
someone in the mouth with that it's leaving a lasting
impression. Yeah. It's really really nice. Anyway, all right.
It'd be great because everyone's waiting for him and the lots of
All right, well, let's just Alright, it's good. It's
approved. Let's go. Yeah,
that's how we do meetings here. We know. It's our
meeting. Meeting. We're where does it go? We're transparent.
We has this is what the Obama administration
is exactly what they do. In fact, this was just on C span.
So we got some letter from some guy to do it, go find it now.
Maybe I have it. Who was it from what was about
I think I sent it forwarded to you it's the guy said there's a
German guy who is one of our one of our producers from last week.
We said he's in Frankfurt for when he's actually in Austria.
Oops, you didn't see that one? No, that's because Pay Pal said
he was in Frankfort. He never mentioned that he was in Austria
right but he says that his douchebag friend burger
douchebag says that we're he says as far as he says you
always grab it grabs at him for listening to the show and he
claims burger does that were to were right wing tag team goes
yeah right yeah, it was that word right wing
tagged is because people hear what they want to hear you know
if you if you bitch about Rachel Mad Cow then all of a sudden
you're a Fox News shill. I get a lot I get those all the time.
You guys are just shields for Fox News man. I wish I wish
we slammed Fox News as much as we slam in fact I've got a clip
today oh, let's
play it now then let's slam Fox News just to prove a point which
by the way is run by the Democrats
yes that's the other thing we say. Which doesn't sound like
right wing not tag team to me but anyway I found it offensive
very offensive. Okay. But anyway let your here's this is Laura.
Laura Ingram took over for Riley and a couple of shows this week
like her you don't like her? No,
I don't like her
Yeah, I find her to be wow she's kind of whiny and she's to me
and I know this would be offensive if she ever heard this
she's an Ann Coulter want to be
girl pair Laura because we know Ann Coulter is a transsexual
well that's what every that's what you think I
don't think that's what I hope shouldn't be kind of hot as a
tranny.
Ellis got me there with the with the just about take a sip
because the mic
almost a spit take as a trainee I think Ann Coulter is pretty
hot.
So anyway, so Ingram has been used by the left wing shows on
MSNBC because she there's a clip of her from 2009 that has her
talking to some woman who is one of the heads of this mosque
which is now by the way by some right wingers has been called
the victory mosque
This is such a distraction from anything I know.
i That's why we have been talking about it. Yeah, but in
this case, I think it needs mentioning and now I can kind of
you know kind of uh, put a little deconstruction on Laura
Ingram and Amy Ingram comes on in 2009 late last year and
starts to what a great idea I you know, to have this mosque
it's fantastic. And there's a clip after clip of her going on
and on fawning over this mosque. So now she comes on the show to
talk about the mosque and and she brings on she does a clip of
Bloomberg and Bloomberg mentions her oh for the moss circle jerk.
Sorry, circle jerk.
Well, she No, here's what's weird about it. She never wants
addresses it
even though he mentioned her in the clip he mentioned to her
and everybody knows that. Well she's got to say something
because she is the one that has been all for the mosque until
now. And so you just listen to this and it just it just goes on
and on. And she just completely avoids the topic. It's like what
Hi, everyone. I'm Laura Ingram in tonight for Bill O'Reilly.
Thanks for watching us no time for Talking Points Memo tonight.
So let's get right Back to our top story. The left opens up a
new line of attack against those opposed to the proposed mosque
near Ground Zero. New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg led the
charge demonizing mosque opponents by questioning their
motives. Take a look. New York Times
wrote about this mosque a year ago, Laura Ingraham did a show
about it or mentioned on one of her shows and said she was in
favor of it. This mosque has been operating for over a year.
There's nothing new here. The difference is we're in an
election season. And this whole issue I think, will go array way
right after the next election. This is plain and simple. People
trying to stir up things to get publicity and trying to polarize
people so that they can get some votes. And I don't think that
most of these people who are yelling and screaming really
care one way or another, the family members, they do care and
family members that I've talked to and I'm chairman of the board
of the World Trade Center Memorial 100% in favor of saying
these peoples have wonderful the mosque can build a mosque.
Joining us now lead shoe bad who's the author of the book for
God or for tyranny? And from Washington, Reverend Barry Lynn,
the executive director of Americans United for Separation
of Church and State now I thoroughly enjoyed watching the
mayor on on Stewart last night. We asked him to come on tonight
but he was golfing I think with President Obama so we couldn't
make it. Here's what I have to say about this. Reverend Lin. We
have the father of one of our great heroes on the United 93
flight of course David beamer coming out against this mosque
Deborah Berlin game her son also on United 93 coming out
vehemently against this mosque people like Danny Pearls dad
against this mosque you know the idea that oh, people are yelling
and screaming they don't care we do deeply care we happen to be
realizing Yeah,
okay, she goes on and on now she's apparently against a
mosque he never wants to address his her situation because it's
all set up is bogus is that she even listened to the clip and
I'm telling you she saw
how many times I have to tell you when the clip is rolling
that's when the makeup comes in. You know don't look good as my
hair right not paying any attention here's what's
the worst part on this exact same show. Do you remember the
way the show up is there's no time for talking points let's
get right to it because it's really important this show she
actually says well as I said in the talking points earlier
what the script was messed up
I wasn't believable I was she still has not addressed her own
situation this is this is to me this is like why do we even
watch this crap
it's funny because there's bring this up someone sent me this
link which relates to relates to the mosque This is a breakdown
the mosque that I'm sorry the victory mosque. Bloomberg is
right of course this this is all just a distraction and it's
about votes or whatever. But this is a brand new website
which actually goes full on live September 1. They have kind of a
park page up with a YouTube video play that for this is
building what my son was September 11 2001. Most people
don't know that a third tower fell on September in that world
trade center. 747 storey skyscraper was not hit by a
playing little
the official explanation is that fire brought down building seven
over 1200 Architects and Engineers I've looked into the
evidence and believe there is more to the story bring justice
to my son, my uncle, my nephew, my son
1000s of others who died on September 11 Go to building
watch.org.
So this is building bullet. What? Pull it pull it here pull
it built, building what.org which and by the way, they're
airing those on television in New York these ads and so
they're requesting for support in funds. They the name of the
website is derived from a statement that Judge Edward
Leonard laner laner New York State Supreme Court judge said
upon hearing the words building seven he apparently said
building what what you're building Yeah, building what
this guy's not keeping up
and building what so it's building what.org Which of
course was not mentioned in the 911 Commission report or or
anything like that. It's just just kind of just kind of fell
because it burned. It was burning. I tell you it was fire
in a building fire. Fire. Our president came out with his
weekly lies. Which as you know, I watch faithfully cruising
through whitehouse.gov Guess what, John? Guess what our
president has done? Because what he's doing,
he went golfing again. No, he's
stopping the war. He's ending it The war is ending. He's ended
the war.
Wars ended. Yes, it's
over. It's like that we
still had 50,000 troops there after more
than seven years, the United States of America will end its
combat mission in Iraq, and take an important step forward and
responsibly ending the Iraq War. Responsibly ending
the Iraq war. What started with Colin Powell holding up a vial
of anthrax with weapons of mass destruction,
or uranium, I think it was yellowcake Oh, yellowcake, of
course. And we were looking for weapons of mass destruction.
Saddam Hussein, bad guy, bad guy gotta get gotta get him. Yeah,
now we're responsibly ending it all.
As a candidate for this office,
I pledged I would end this war. Let's just hear what he said.
Did he actually say that? Let me listen to what he said. I will
promise
you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out, by the
time I am President, it is the first thing I will do. I will
get our troops home, we will bring an end to this war. You
can take that to the
bank. So he didn't he didn't say he would end the war. He said it
would bring his troops that bring the troops home. So he's
actually holding true to his promise not ending the war. He's
just bringing some troops home was a difference. Our words do
matter.
Yeah. But he always says be the first thing he does. Yeah, well,
that was of course a lot of way he also the first thing he does
really close Gitmo, and that's not gonna happen. Oh, gee, I'd
forgotten. We haven't closed that yet. Have we?
What other is a bunch of other promises or what weren't?
weren't all bills supposed to be put online? So the public could
comment? Oh, yeah, at least three days. Yeah. That was like
a big deal. Yeah. Because everybody's corrupted doing
stuff behind closed doors. So we're gonna put these things on
online for a couple of days. And then people can comment. So what
happened? Well, we
screw that screw Shut up, slave. Shut up. Why are you shut up?
Don't question things what I'm doing.
I brought home more than 90,000 troops since I took office. We
have closed or turned over to Iraq, hundreds of bases.
That's like saved and created, closed or turned over. I'm not
quite sure what that is.
In many parts of the country. The Rockies have already taken
the lead for security.
I guess we were there for just for security. We weren't there
for weapons of mass destruction, or for yellowcake the months
ahead.
Our troops will continue to support and train Iraqi forces
partner with Iraqis and counterterrorism missions and
protect our civilians and military efforts. But the bottom
line is this okay, here, the war is ending. Yay.
And now we're stuck in the place that no one's ever done. Well,
yeah. We're in Afghanistan. We're sending drones into Yemen.
Pakistan, Pakistan. Yeah, that's great.
So I sent you a a couple of links to the woohoo, I'm
referring to as the James Bond of India. Yes. I haven't read
any of that
stuff. You know, I started to read it. And then my eyes glaze
over. But it's heavy stuff. This is it's under the CIA isI cabal
in the show notes. And this is about a total collaboration
between the Pakistan ISI and the United States CIA. Right.
Well, that and the Taliban. Oh, I
didn't catch that part. I didn't read that far.
You had to read the second of those two articles will tell me
to tell it. Everyone's curious. Sounds like a corrupt mess.
Yeah, yeah. Let me summarize.
That's what I'm waiting for.
Yeah, it's a corrupt mess. Oh, great.
It's funny, because I was reading something else about
Pakistan. There are a number of Pakistani websites who are now
accusing the CIA of causing Pakistan flooding. And of
course, they know as as you and I do, John, that this is Harper
being used against Pakistan. And
how many minutes are we into the show?
We're doing pretty good. At this HAARP thing I'm telling you
there's there's a lot of evidence of weather modification
going on. And just looking at what's going on around the
world. The Russians are saying that the Russians are saying
that that HAARP is being used to heat up Russia. And now some
Pakistanis are saying By the way these are unpronounceable names
these websites check this out. Paki Stan Kakuda fits.com cat
that's catchy. Like what I can't remember that website. It's in
the show notes though. aundre Irish if that's the the Russian
scholar we talked about. He says the harp is being used to burn
Russia. The flood disaster is more manmade the natural says
Pakistan caught who died his.com The choice of starting point was
perfect. All the flood is going in Downstream from the Khyber
hills to Karachi, designed to submerge all of Pakistan and
produce the worst crisis and chaos ever. They know they can't
win a war with nuclear armed Pakistan it would be neutral
district oxygen, so they have other ways of doing it. We have
ways of making you swim.
Yeah, it's kind of interesting.
But the I just got to get this out of the way right now. Happy
National Preparedness Month, John. I'm prepared. Are you
really now? It used to be a boy scout, you know, the Oh, be
prepared as the Boy Scouts marching song. Now the President
has proclaimed September so I'm a little bit early, but we might
as well get ready for being ready as National Preparedness
Month because of course, you know, we could have a bioterror
attack, a cyber attack, we could have an earthquake, we could
have a number of horrible, horrible things to to hurt us.
But there are so many cool websites that have popped up as
a part of this presidential push. So we've got ready.gov,
please all fire up your browsers and go to ready.gov that
includes you human resources in the chat room at no agenda.
chat.net We're, of course you need to prepare, plan and stay
informed. And it's just hilarious. I mean, it's they've
got some public service announcements that you will soon
see they will be airing everywhere. You actually this is
great, because this is really slow motion shot of a family at
home. And all of a sudden they're flying through the air.
Everything's flying tables are flying. The whole house is
turning upside down. John oranges are floating
this@ready.gov
I'm looking@ready.gov. Listen, what is life as you know, it has
completely turned on its head.
And they're doing backflips in the air. Now in slow motion.
What if everything familiar becomes anything but
it's really sad before disaster turns your family's world upside
down. To be ready, be ready, be prepared have a plan. They've
been hit by a beam formed today. It's cool. I'm ready. DACA. So
you gotta go to ready.gov because they have this series of
really, really poorly acted eight part series of this family
who clearly
to public service advertisements? Well, that's not
where I am. Right now I'm at. I'm looking at the there's a
whole video series here in there. Yeah, they're in it all
the links are in the show notes as usual. And so they have the
introduction, get informed make a plan and the and this family
which is model family, mom, dad, son, daughter. They've clearly
never worked together as dialogue is outrageous. But then
they, they said because he has a school project to talk about the
important work FEMA is doing. And what's interesting is what
keeps coming back is the possibility of a freight train
derailing with toxic chemicals. This is a constant theme
throughout these clips. But maybe it's just listened to the
to a part of the ending. Which is the Get Involved part eight,
which is just and by the way, you've got to see the god like
this minority report type, readiness room recap. The four
steps of preparing for disaster are here we go getting formed
and formed. Make a plan, make a plan, assemble a kit, get a kit
and maintain your planning kit maintain the planner kit paired
can reduce fear anxieties. He's showing his presentation for
class sometimes avoid the disaster completely. Yes. Yes.
That's beautiful. Very, very. That's great. You ready to do
that in front of your class? This is I think I'm ready. I
think you are to offer Joshua,
through our sons project, our family was able to take the
steps necessary to prepare for disasters of
any type. Oh, John, are you prepared for disasters of any
kind at any time?
Yeah, gotta have a tank of gas.
Fortunately, we have lots of help along the way. Those who
work in the disaster field and for many publications that are
available nationwide. Yes. The booklets that we used can be
obtained through your local American Red Cross Check.
The Red Cross is involved since when is that a government
organization? Yeah, since when they're not they're not a
government organization, of
course that this is a scam, the total scam.
They're also available from FEMA, along with the are you
ready guide? Contact the FEMA Distribution Center at
1-800-480-2520 for copies.
John, let's go to our FEMA distribution center. I wonder
what copy now.
Every American can and should do their part to be better prepared
and better protect healthy and help their communities do the
same? Yes, absolutely. Our family just falling Hearing on
our community agency response team,
ah, Cumberland community emergency response team cert?
Yes, John, what could that be?
That's right. It's also known as search right now. Our team is
learning how to provide immediate assistance to victims.
And we're learning how to assemble information to give to
first responders as soon as they arrive on right on serve as a
part of the Citizen Corps program.
Okay, there you go. Citizen Corps program,
Citizen Corps program. Oh,
yes, yeah, this is citizen corps.gov. Now, it's endless
these $18 million websites. Citizen Corps is famous
grassroots strategy. This is not a dichotomy. How can it be? What
do we most
grassroots strategy makes no sense. Yeah, it's an oxymoron.
And that's
what it is oxymoron to bring together government and
community leaders to involve citizens in all hazards
emergency preparedness and resilience. So this is
essentially your this is the, what they call it.
It's a waste of the taxpayers,
will be a waste of money is one. But this is these are the
shields who are going to be you know, when FEMA comes marching
to put you on the train, your neighbors are going to be
guiding you move along now people and you can get
certified. You can get badges you can get special ID Oh, yeah.
I'm joining. Yes. Special IDs and stuff, isn't it? Yeah, it's
yeah, they have they have special ID cards. Yeah, excuse
me. I'm with cert. I'm a member of the Citizen Corps.
You know, CERT is one of the major organizations that deals
with computer disasters in terms of like giant worms that take
over the DNS system and things like that. I think they shed
they'd be irked about this.
I think they've stolen their acronym. Yeah, they totally did.
By the way, we have two days, 14 hours 17 minutes and 42 seconds
until National Preparedness Month begins according to their
website. So yeah, make sure you get you get your badges and your
ID cards and then maybe they'll even give you a cool vest that
glows in the dark
register Council find a nearby Council I'm going to do I think
I'm going to be the guy here
can you just imagine and move along hey I'm from Sir Now shut
up slave get on the train gonna damage Shut up so I just found
that to be somewhat to abhorrent I don't like it when you say we
have a government run grassroots campaign I just don't like it
I'm looking at the they're already have dozens of these
things have already organized us the around you know they're
probably the same guys who went door to door collecting for
Obama
of course. But yeah, please have a look at@ready.gov and enjoy
all the videos where they continuously warn about a train
running off the rails with toxic chemicals this is an ongoing
theme so we can be on the lookout for
mixed messages here you know they got the and now that my
latest thing what the trains good planes bad you might as
well play the theme here we go all the board trains planes bad
is this fairly Cal California did you get this note
California's a great story. California is requiring if the
French are going to obviously this whole phony baloney high
speed rail in California is already in the bag for somebody
because the French decided that they want to like bid on this
thing. And they're Teshuvah they have the best high speed trains
in the world. Yeah, and they want to get in on this is like
can we maybe how about letting us in on the show said hey, we
want to deal instead of a blank check to Siemens
power don't just hand it all to Germany we hate those guys. So
they're requiring the French the California State to get this
typical California requiring the French to turn over all their
documents about how much these the French National Railway took
Jews and shipped them to the concentration camps.
Make it any more blatantly clear.
Basically it Yeah, it was essentially what we want to see
all the document well, how much how much collaboration was going
on you Frenchies and so we want the records and the friendships
we actually did friendship apparently released the records
to other countries before and it's there, but they're just
there have to be shaking their heads and only if there's just
harassment.
There's a website to just on that briefly. I think as we will
we will not be chipped.com or.org with this New
York Times reporter or for I think they probably wrote
freelance for the New York Times goes in depth into IBM and their
machines that were used by the by the Nazis to segregate them
Julia, the hill author What is it hilarious hilarious machine I
think it's called Hollerith Hollerith right.
You get card sorters Yeah,
card sorter but he's, you know, he actually shows all the
different
pieces. I bet you 10 bucks. This is Ed black. Yeah,
it was at Black. Yeah.
You see where blacks a friend of mine? Oh,
of course he is. So he's kind of a weird guy talks on the side of
his mouth has like buggy eyes.
Yeah, yeah, that's a dark.
Great though. Great story. And you know,
black Ed black used to be the publisher and editor in chief of
OS two magazine.
Oh, he worked for IBM. No, I
know. He's buddy. He's actually a really good he's like an
unbelievably outstanding investigative reporter. He did a
lot of things about modern slavery for example, I mean,
actual slavery.
This is exactly what what the whole website is about is about
very chip, who have changed her name now of course to what the
hell is it? I'll come up with it. And IBM how they're working
together to essentially you know, get everybody chipped and
then they'll use great big IBM mainframes and then they'll put
us on the FEMA trains create
sounds good and good work and continued success.
No, I think Ed is doing great work. I really like it. We the
people will not be chipped I think as you can just Google
that. But on the trains thing. Another revolving California.
The what is it? The Center for urban infrastructure, released a
report and this is a California organization. It's called
Thinking Ahead high speed rail in California that detail the
benefits of building a mass intercity high speed rail system
for Southern California. So they essentially were given a gig to
write up a report about where this thing should run and what
it should be doing. And this really, really shows that the
plan is not to transport people, but to transport freight because
they actually say the writers of the report say suggest that most
of the money should be used to link Bakersfield and Fresno. In
Central California, which of course is farmland.
Yeah. Well, who's gonna go from Baker person? Go to either one
of those towers. It's
for freight. It's for corn and stuff like that.
Yeah, you move stuff back and forth. Great.
That's a great report. You should really read it. It's
funny that they also talked about you know, well, we're
gonna have a problem with with parking at these terminals.
Yeah, no kidding. So they're talking about air rights. Have
you heard of air rights? No means the right to build up in
the air. Illustrate uh, yeah, I have heard of that. So talking
about towering parking structures and stuff and shut
up, slaved, don't just walk around just park park a mile
away and then walk. That's kind of the
kind of the gist of that. You're gonna take the little tram.
But the funniest thing was on the door, the high speed tram
high speed.
The funniest thing was on dvorak.org/blog about this
British Airways flight on its way to Hong Kong. Yeah. And all
of a sudden, apparently, a pre recorded tape comes on telling
everyone that they're going to make an emergency water landing.
They're all gonna die. And by the way, they were over the
North Sea, not the ocean. I mean, the North Sea, which is
kind of crazy. I think we have an ABC News report here, which I
don't know if it has a pre roll. I'm sure it does. Let's see.
Maybe some cool audio on this. Let's see if they have a
commercial. Come on. You know, Safari sucks. Anyway, so screw
that then. But you know, I'm sure we have some aviators in
the audience. I would like to know I am not aware of and I
think this was a 747 I'm not aware of a pre recorded message
that that's what I asked him to in that posting that make that
makes no sense it on tape. It makes no sense. Somebody bumps
the machine they've walked by they bump it next thing you
know, it said we're gonna crash
what I think it is, I think is the inflight video entertainment
system that they probably have a number of emergency videos that
in like you'd have tinio like if you're descending at 2000 feet a
minute or whatever is like you have time to hit the button. I'm
pretty sure they have something on the inflight video
entertainment. That's probably what it was. I don't think it
was something triggered from the cockpit. You know so here it is.
Airline passengers worst fear a warning comes on the speaker to
prepare for a crash landing in the ocean. It's just a warning
that
hundreds of pips the North Sea Diane's seen I don't know she
action you would expect
but what was really happening Jeremy Hubbard tells us
again, they've licensed video from from airport it's Not not
cheap these packages on a
British Airways flight from Heathrow to Hong Kong Tuesday
night, it seemed to be happening for real.
Oh my god, everyone was panicking. I mean, you know,
there was people who were crying and shaking.
We talked to Michelle today one of 275 people on the flight in
total darkness. 30,000 feet up, when a terrifying automated
announcement came. This is an emergency the cabin speakers
blared, we may shortly need to make an emergency landing on
water. I didn't know
whether to kind of, you know, see if I could use that sort of
telephone thing in the back of the seat to contact my parents
or to get my life jacket on or you know what to do next.
Somehow the warning message was triggered by mistake what
British Airways is now apologizing to passengers on
board the flight for causing them undue stress.
I wish I was on that flight. I would sue them so bad. I'd be
like, You've ruined my life. I have nightmares.
Ya know, I'm gonna get sued a lot.
But I just read about this. I don't understand. I
wonder I mean, how about this for a concept? It was done on
purpose? To do some socio sociological research. What
happens? If, right?
Well, I know we've got a lot of big bird captains out there. So
let us know if there is indeed this type of automatic system
and how it's triggered. And we just like to know and they're
showing pictures of a 747. So I'm going to presume that that's
what what this I'm sure
what they're flying from Heathrow to Hong Kong. That's a
747. Yeah, I think a seven a triple seven mate can make that
trip to but I think would it be British here I think is flying
40. So a triple seven can definitely make it. Yeah, but I
don't think British I think British Air uses mostly the
seven, seven or seven for that flight. But I
just like to know, really like to know that there was all kinds
of other train plane stuff. Is he there was a ghost hunter who
was killed by a train in North Carolina. He was on the track.
Yeah, douche. Hunter. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Apparently in 1891 or
something over this bridge. It's one of those, you know, real
typical railway bridges that goes over, you know, like
hundreds of feet in the air. And 30 people died. And apparently
there's ghosts there. So every year ghost hunters go out on the
anniversary of this accident from the 1890s. And they go
hunting for ghosts
was an extra ghost now.
But actually a train came along. It's like, Yeah, okay. And so,
three of the five people were able to run before the train got
them. And then one guy pushed his girlfriend off the bridge.
And she fell into the trees down below was hurt, but he's alive
and he unfortunately got got killed. So don't mess with
trains, I think is the message there on a trestle. Yeah.
trestle is what it is. trestle trestle trestle.
is dumb. Yeah. Jet Blue.
Tires caught fire during a hard landing in Sacramento.
Yeah, yeah. That was big news. Yeah. Whoo. The question on my
mind is I didn't even know JetBlue went to Sacramento.
That's why That's airports. Why are
they letting you know, hey, we go out. Here's the meeting.
People to know, let me think, let me think what we can do. I
do have some excellent news, John. I received an email from
one of our producers. And he was bitching and moaning about
something and it was kind of irrelevant. But then he says,
you know, hey, do I'm a douchebag. But I'm only making
three bucks an hour. And so I fire an email back and say,
What, douchebag companies paying you three bucks an hour. So
that's illegal. And he comes back and he says, Well, I live
in Tijuana, Mexico. Yeah, yeah. But check it out. He said the
company I work for is owned by Carlos Slim. He uses the MF word
for him actually the richest man in the world. And what's
happening is he's a computer systems engineer. Listen, this
guy's three bucks now our computer systems engineer. And
he works. Well, I won't tell you the name of the company because
don't want to get him or anyone else in trouble. But it was just
purchased. And there's like all this stuff. And you know, it's
like Calderon's son in law or someone you know, owns that owns
this company. And so it's like all money going in and out of
one pocket to the other. But what this company is doing is
creating the National ID Card for Gitmo nation taco. And he
says to me, he says, but don't worry, we're putting loopholes
in the system. I'm like, Cool. And so I query I say, what are
the loopholes? He says, Well, the way we're doing it is we're
putting in into the system, a little web responder, and if you
know the URL, then you fire off. Then you fire up a web page,
which will have like a question mark query and I guess your ID
number and it will remove you from the system. Oh, how cool is
that? Huh?
That's totally cool. You know, I bet you Every system has this
stuff
well, and so this, of course, comes back to the, you know, sis
admins to the rescue. Although he does say he does say here in
his note, we've been trying to implement it. But we've put it
through a couple times. And then the the goes off to testers and
it came back and the note was unnecessary code must be
deleted. But they're trying so you know, I think I truly
believe that the goodness of sis admins around the world are
going to save us from this crap, particularly
unnecessary code must be deleted. There's ways around
that. Yeah, of course, we can compress the code, you can pre
compile
it or see, but he's so he's not going to tell or we've agreed
I'm not going to give it all away. But this this part, I
could certainly give away that the whole point is these systems
are made by people and most people who grow up writing
computer code, I would have to say have have some crackpot
buzzkill in them. And if not, if not, we can get to them, we can
get to them. So that's all good news. But I liked the idea like
it or there's like a special URL and you just hit it and boom.
So I wanted to talk about David are the Koch brothers this week,
because I kind of deconstructed a few things that I think are
important. Okay. And also I think they should listen to our
show.
They should be these guys who are good billionaires should be
sending us money. We thought we'd make them. What can we make
them? First of all, they we make them automatic nights with Ray,
they might
not want to be mentioned.
That's okay. But we won't mention we'll still send them
the rings. But imagine if just send us your cash. Koch
brothers. You're on our side.
Koch brothers. So anyway, so they did a they did I know we
mentioned this in passing last week. They did a hit piece in in
the New Yorker on them called covert operations billionaire
brothers who are waging a war against Obama.
Yeah, so I have I have a separate heading in the show
notes called party ties. And and there's basically two links in
there. One is about the Koch brothers and then the other one
is about the secret meeting of all the progressives in 2004 to
get bush out of the White House just killing it all the
millionaire's by the same
woman Jane Meyer that is called the money man. And instead of
like the waging a war it's can George Soros millions insure.
Sure, ensure the defeat of President Bush. So you can just
see immediately that Mayor is a kind of compromised, she's
compromised. She's She's up to classic liberal. By the way, she
is an outstanding writer.
Well written dangerous, but she's still a
bag EQ. I mean, because she takes one side or the other. But
meanwhile, everybody's been jumping on these guys. Oh,
everyone on the left, because of one thing or another, and they
turn out to end but But what I wanted to talk about, and I
think we'll do it after we mentioned the mention the dollar
donors this week, because because it's it's gonna take a
little more than usual time. I don't want to be too boring. Oh,
you want to do donors now? Or do you want me to do donors because
I want to, but what I want to talk about after the donors is,
is the idea as associate as word association, and how it's being
used to kind of twist the way you think. And this comes up
after a lunch that the company had as a going away lunch for
Nick, and Chari. Oh, interesting. Because somebody
brought something up as soon as they did it, I looked at and
then I realized what, what kind of method at what what kind of
new trickery is going on that we have to be kind of aware of?
Okay.
Okay, I like it. I like it. Well, I'm very confused by the
the support mentions that we have because of course, we had a
big fail on Thursday. So a number of notes didn't get
mentioned. So we have some make dues here. And then it's a it's
a cluster F. Yeah, to me. So can I just, I mean, I have two
things. I want to make sure I do these and then also stay out of
the way. So we have this one from Chris. Do we have Do we
have a make do on Chris that you know
of? Was that the one that just came in? I don't know. He said
I'd like to
call out that this is from last week. So I don't know what the
what the donation amounts were, but I just want to make sure I
do it. Chris, I'd like to call out the human resources
department of my contract agency through which I'm employed as
douchebags for compelling me to sign an agreed to adhere to a
policy that specifically defines any visible tattoo as harassing
behavior.
Oh yeah, we forgot to do that last week.
I did not have any tattoos myself but I find it abhorrent
good use of the word Chris that they would define all tattoos
even those of Holocaust survivors as harassment nice
point. And this is Eric Gray who says we didn't read his $333.33
cent donation from last week? I thought we did. I would have
remembered this hello heroes please read on air apologies for
the late donation I'd like to thank make mention of Ara Darien
Paul post of HGTV and home repair theater podcasts also no
agenda supporter please call it my bro Andrew Peace as a
douchebag homeowners for not donating yet. I'd like to if any
of you know agenda disciples on Xbox want to hit me up. I'm the
living Eazy E. And that was it. That's all I got. Then I'll
leave the rest up to you. I just wanted Okay.
Well, we had a late donation. We have a couple of birthdays. I
want you to just make a note with when you do the birthdays.
I'm doing everything on your cue today. Okay.
Oh, all right. Well, you have the birthday call out
for do you want to do the birthday thing?
No, no, not necessarily. I just want let me give the numbers out
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$100 from John Smith, Sir John Smith actually from Alpharetta,
Georgia zone as continue to give $100 a month and opt out of the
mothership plan as I've been living with mainstream media
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full of no agenda listeners
Wayman so he's not he's he's getting off the ship. Yeah, he's
getting off the ship like I am.
All right. Hey, Sir John. No. Nice knowing Yeah. Okay. He's
okay. He can hang out in he's in Georgia. We can go just pull
pork and drink beer. You know, you
go do that. You go do that. Well, that's fine.
But you can buzz us.
fly by. We'll all be behind our windows waving. Hey, see you.
Michael Kearns. Platt city. Missoura. 6969 I'm doubling down
on you guys. I'm keeping up my patronage. Hope you guys keep up
the great work with your RMS Yeah,
thank you. Awesome.
Some new listeners Andrew Carey from late in London. London
England. Layton. Where's Layton? Is a district there. I don't
never heard of it. 85 To 85 Hi guys. Andrew from the Bahamas.
But living in Gitmo nation east. Love the show have been
listening for 1.5 months and he must be an engineer hoping for
some good karma while I go through this new rigorous
process of renewing my work permit under the new coalition
government. Yeah, good luck with that. I'd also appreciate a deep
douching if possible. Absolutely. Ben de duced Colin
McCarthy.
Here's here's a tip for Andrew. Back to the Bahamas. Are you out
of your mind? Here she's living in Gitmo nation ease Get out.
Get out. Bahamas is great.
Or you can go to Bermuda. Colin McCarthy, Omaha Nebraska defied
definitely goes on the diamond Andrew Everett tea gardens, New
South Wales. Double nickels on the dime. He sent an email about
the Posse Comitatus Act. I think we read that. Or somebody did.
Yeah, we've talked about it once. The problem is we talk
about so much stuff and we get new listeners and we know that
we've spoken about it, but they don't know. So yeah. The Posse
Comitatus Act is essentially that the the US government may
not put troops in action against its own people which of course
is being done continuously at checkpoints. DUI checkpoint,
checkpoint checkpoint, we're gonna check you soon. And of
course they're only there to help. Just in case you know
someone gets stuck in their car or something. But it's being
violated continuously.
Nicholas Wallace Toledo, Ohio 5342 in the morning to you
looking to get some house selling karma my job is letting
me transfer to Tennessee Hey, well the living is easy have by
the way they they're very human. When you drive first driving
into Tennessee there's a huge billboard on all the major roads
that say we enforce our speed limits. And by the way, they
should do that for Washington State because I've said it
before I'll say it again on the show to remind anybody traveling
outside of the Seattle metro area into the anyplace else in
Washington State. They make they don't do not have a personal
income tax in Washington State. They make all their money from
speeding tickets.
Yeah, and you should contest that you should go to court
whenever you can, because there's there's a good chance
that the cop won't show up usually grounds for dismissal.
Yeah, well that's Washington Oh
really? Because I think each cop does about $250,000 a year and
speeding tickets up there it's amazing yeah
you could go be a murderer and you no problem
that's like 150 bucks for what five five miles too fast and you
you get a hate on your insurance so it helps the insurance
companies to big scam so the advice is just drive the speed
limit
you got heavy AV if you don't have cruise control in
Washington State you're gonna be
you're gonna get it and they always are down on the downslope
of the hill Have you ever noticed that?
Oh, they always Yeah. And at least they warn you that they're
going to change the speed limits a speed zone ahead so you got
about a quarter of a mile then then when it goes from 55 or 60
to 40 or 30 Essentially you have to slam on the brakes. Yeah, you
can't even crew you can't even slow down slow
down to a cruise now.
So we also DUI dash help.com and Barry Wilson are still hanging
in there on their knighthood thing their layaway program
layaway program right my thinking
okay, five the birthdays here for a second.
Okay another you how many which ones do you have? I don't know
I've got Rory stone who says Happy Birthday to his brother
Cody J stone whose birthday was on the 25th.
And I've got to do Happy Birthday to Chris Advent from
Carrie
yay. who barely made it?
Yeah, really? I thought that was a doughnut. No, it's not
it's it's a it's a double stinger. I can fire it up
whenever I want to draw. You
can do it whenever you want. Yes, I
can. Okay, well, I have this now I'm giving away the trades of
the secrets of my trade.
We are open this is we're transparent and completely
transparent. You've always wondered how you end the you
know when we do the intro? We always seems to time perfectly.
It's amazing how that works. How does that work? It's just
outrageous. Speaking of amazing GX twos amazing. Is the first
release on no agenda records.com though yeah, there's a new
project out there John. No agenda records.com releases
music to iTunes and to Amazon. So it's all legal. And all
proceeds I guess excluding some costs, but mine might not even
be that I don't think they have much cost goes to the show. And
the GX two amazing track which by the way, I would love to hear
that in a club. It is truly amazing. Is the first release
and it's on iTunes it would be cool yeah, it's very cool.
Do we have two nights?
Yes. Let me just draw my Sir can you draw yours out for everyone?
Yeah. Okay, we would like from the see Sean Connolly and
Matthew carry to step forward please. We'll do Sean first Sean
please kneel Yeah, that's good. Well, Shawn, you've done it you
have completed your support of the no agenda show in the amount
of a minimum amount of $1,000 therefore we now proudly night
the serve Sean Connolly nights of have no agenda round table
please step over and enjoy our hookers and blow
okay, I don't have the
we have another night John. Yeah, yeah. isn't something you
need to say before that?
I was gonna tell you I think we have a he's a double night I
believe Matthew when you when you get no no one of the ones
sort of bring sir Shawn. I don't know. Just go ahead. Please.
Just
can you bring up the
smaller one? Yeah, because that one is bland was Jesus break my
Matthew carry step forward, please. YouTube, Matthew have
completed your quest. Amounts totaling up to $1,000, which
means a ring will be on the way to you soon made of Rearden
steel. But first we must officially might be sir Matthew
carries knights of the no agenda roundtable. Men enjoy some
hookers and blow which by the way is a meme now getting into
the mainstream media as we listen to Gene Simmons speaking
to his son Nick Simmons, on the family jewels program. Look,
you're gonna have options and dark McGee as your potential
manager. He's going to make sure that all the labels who are
interested in you are going to come in and you know what
they're all going to say. This label is like a family. We are
well, yeah, because the other the other label guys are
offering me, you know, hookers and blow. It's good, right?
Yeah, they're just stealing it from us, you know, you know,
he's listening Gene Simmons would totally listen to the
show. Anyway,
I think we have a double night that is going to become a black
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So this program is entirely supported by listeners. But
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Now, I think, I think is a couple of his writers,
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So let's get back to the the Koch brothers brothers. Yeah.
Now this is where we get to right from the website. You want
to just play this now?
Yeah, this is the woman who wrote the article who is the you
know, kind of wrote the Soros article in 2004, which is a
bunch of different I should read a little bit of the beginning of
it. She wrote this, this basically a hit piece on the
Koch brothers. And most of it most of the data. And I think
that the triggering mechanism for the hit piece is a PDF file,
which we'll have a link to in the show notes, which is
actually a what kind of a white paper on the Koch brothers and
climate denial. And it was done by Greenpeace, and much of the
information is taken from there. But let me just give you some
idea as to the objectivity for one thing in this in this PDF
file, they have photo after photo after photo, which are
essentially smoking stacks and a loyal refineries on fire and all
these things that get nothing to do with anything there. This is
all associative, which is what I want to talk about, on this
deconstruction is that associative messaging, which was
brought to my attention at this luncheon. But let's start by
listening to a little bit of, of Meyer on the national treasure
and there's some associative stuff in here.
So this is NPR which does, which is a listener supported, but not
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This is Terry Gross.
This is fresh air. I'm Terry Gross. You might not know their
names, but brothers Charles and David Koch have quietly given
more than $100 million to right wing causes underwriting a huge
network of foundations, think tanks and political groups. Jane
Mayer reports on the Koch brothers in the current edition
of the New Yorker. In an article titled covert operations, the
billionaire brothers who are waging a war against Obama. She
says the Koch brothers have become the primary underwriters
of hardline libertarian politics in America and their views
dovetail with their corporate interests. Charles who was 74
and David who is 70 owned virtually all of Koch
Industries, a conglomerate whose annual revenues are estimated to
be $100 billion. The cokes operate oil refineries in
several states and control some 4000 miles of pipelines. Koch
Industries owns brawny paper towels, Dixie Cups, Georgia
Pacific lumber, Stainmaster, carpet and lycra and is ranked
by Forbes as the second largest private company in the country
after Cargill. Just to clarify, Koch is spelled K O ch. Jane
Mayer is a staff writer for The New Yorker. She writes about
politics and the war on terror. Jane Mayer, welcome back to
fresh air. Now, you say that by giving money to fund political
groups like tea party protesters, they've helped turn
their private agenda into a mass movement. So before we get to
who they've given money to, what do you consider to be the Koch
brothers private agenda?
Well, they are longtime very hard line libertarians. So their
private agenda is really the eradication of the federal
government. In almost all of its forms other than the parts of it
that protect personal rights
like it's not like the Constitution
yeah you want so that we don't have to play anymore that
because I get to play another head No but I let you know they
had that progressive ad Yeah. And it's interesting because
Meyer in her 2004 piece she mentioned the Oregon that piece
starts off about how they're having a secret meeting. This is
all fine when the Democrats are doing it, by the way, but he has
reached at the beginning of that article is called the money man
about Soros. On August 6, the week after the Democratic
convention of the clandestine summit meeting took place in the
Aspen Institute in Colorado's Rocky Mountains. The
participants all Democrats were sworn to secrecy and few of them
will discuss the event. One thing that is certain, however,
is the guests formed a tableau that not many people would
associate with the Democrats party of the past. Five
billionaires joined a half a dozen dozen liberal leaders in a
lengthy conversation on the future of progressive politics
in America on and on and on a secret meeting. No one was
supposed to know about this as one person or you know another
and then it says this is interesting. The meetings
organizer was Peter B. Lewis, the 70 year old reclusive
chairman of the progressive Corporation, which we just saw
advertised. Oh, my goodness, wishing an ad out on this NPR
show. Coincidence? I think not why she bitches and moans the
writer complains bitterly about the fact that the Koch brothers
won't talk to her because, you know, why should they should
it's fine that this guy's the same way he says. According to
Louis's friends, he concluded that it would be best to remain
a shadow figure in the 2004 campaign. He's declined all
requests for interviews, but she's not pissed at him. No, but
anyway,
because he's good. He's good. He advertises on NPR he's helping
the cause he's a good guy.
The irony that all this by the way is that the Koch brothers
also give the NPR they're one of the main financers of the ANOVA
show really? And they also give to the ACLU which nobody seems
to want to mention
yeah so they they give money to the Democratic causes they give
they give money everybody anybody they can mostly given
market screwed.org/and A divorce act.org/and A Come on.
I also want them to do is listen to the show and then we won't
even have to mention it because they're going to say well these
two guys the tag team right wingers are actually
libertarians just like us Yeah, that's running I'm sure
therefore you know the funny thing is about these crazy
lefties and the crazy right wing libertarians not the regular
right wingers that went and I don't even wouldn't call these
two guys right wingers have the all the reports Oh, right wing,
right wing party tea party. Well anyway, there's an associative
thing going on that I want to get just jumped to I'm not gonna
keep talking about this other stuff for it necessarily. And
you heard it in the Terry Gross report. She says hardline
libertarian and and then Jane Meyer comes out and she says
hard line libertarian. What does that mean, John? Well, it
doesn't mean anything. But what it does is it takes a word hard
line, which is always associated with something bad. And just
puts it in your brain and here's what happened to me at the
lunch. I met to lunch and we're done talking I got Nick and
Andrew are sitting there and they're the only two guys that
listen to the show and everybody else knows a bunch of Democrats
probably and they listen to Jimmy go on and on. You know, no
one's gonna say anyway, tell
me about this lunch. What was this for?
It was going away lunch for Nick and carrot Carl. Okay,
right at me do
it. Yeah, they're at me view but the lunch was at the ramp
in politics. According to Wikipedia, hardline refers to
the doctrine policy and posturing of a government or
political body as being absolutist and sometimes
authoritarian. The hardline position is usually extremist
and uncompromising.
Right, it's all bad connotations. But we're gonna go
and look at some of the way this works.
So we so we have a going away meeting for sitting there
yakking to Nick and and Andrew, and I bring up the fact that I'm
gonna talk about the Koch brothers, and how they're
getting, they're basically getting hit, for one reason or
another most of again, is based on this green piece document,
which I'm going to read a clip from, and I'm going to reduce,
start chatting and nobody wanted. Of course, none of the
other people want to say anything because they don't want
to get into a political argument.
God forbid we have a discussion about politics. So we'll
Streeter chimes in Oh, will our our black friend from
Pennsylvania, from Philly,
he says, and he's going to start asking, he's starting to ask a
question. I can't answer this. I don't know the answer to that.
And he said, Andy, and I just kind of cut him off because it
wasn't anything to do with anything. He said, Well, wait,
wait, wait, wait. And he said yes, he insists on finishing
what he has to say. It's actually more of an announcement
right? He says aren't the Koch brothers the guys behind? Oh
gosh, aren't they the ones behind the depot? already Swift
Boat, John Kerry's swift boating John Kerry. Wow. I said what? I
never heard you think this would have come up in the
conversation? Yeah. And I said, so I didn't think much about it.
I said no, as far as I know, some guy in Texas, Harold,
what's his name? I have his name somewhere that did that. And
who's you know, he's the Swift Boat guy. He's got none to do
with these guys. I mean, they may have contributed to a
company or something somewhere, but there's no, they're not
connected to the Swift Boat. So I thought it was thinking about
this. I was I was listening to this all this reporting. And I
realized that they were talking about Association work here. And
this is what their lot of people are doing in the propaganda
community. And here's how it works. Go look up Koch brothers
and Swift Boat, and you see a bunch of links. The headlines
and progressive journals mostly are the Koch brothers
swiftboating, the climate movement.
This is great. Old voting the climate movement. That's great.
I love
it. And over in the headlines, the words Koch brothers, or
Charles Koch, and David Koch are either mentioned with the word
associative word in the same headline, Swift Boat, CA.
So that's how the association comes up that they were behind
the Swift Boat.
Exactly. And it was so obvious to me that this is going on to
an extreme. And these guys are subject to it. And I mean,
there's just the general public is going to be subject to this.
There's a wheel Streeters all of a sudden, out of the blue, it
tells me that there's you know, why don't know what he's
reading? Well,
we'll who was a very deadline, well, who was a very smart, very
reasonable East Coast guy, I have to say,
yeah, so I'm looking at the, I'm looking at the some of the stuff
in that in the Terry Gross report that you were going to
get you started, I'm gonna give you some of the associative
words that are just thrown in by these two. And all they do is
they stick in your brain and now you as you would do in an
attempt to get you to associate these words with these guys in a
negative connotation sense. And here's just I just wrote them
down as they were coming out. Private agenda, war, criminal,
war, criminal front groups, under a rock, nice, fellow
travelers. Ooh, that's a good one. astroturf rednecks.
Manufacture public opinion, beautiful launder economics.
Now, one of the things No, those are the kinds of things that
those words were used in context. So you so you know,
just casually listening you're gonna get your you know, your
think of the these are all bad words. I mean, astroturf is a
bad manufacturer public opinion, comes from manufacturer, which
is Chomsky book Manufacturing Consent, which has a negative
connotation. It makes it sound as you know, is this corruption
is some evil thing going on. I also got a big kick out of mayor
who was,
and this is all used just in like passing words. Just yeah,
yeah. Just like, Oh, yeah. You know, he manufactures
programming.
Totally. Yeah. Well, well, it's about time that people start
realizing that your brains are being programmed. I mean, come
on, this is why we do this show to assassinate this crap.
So that I got the biggest kick out of May or she says she
actually documented that the brothers have have funded 34
organizations. She had the number right down 34 No, five or
10 minutes later into the discussion. She says they funded
a tremendous amount, 34 sessions, a tremendous, I got
the exact quote, tremendous amount. But wait a minute, it
was 34. Is that a tremendous amount? I don't know maybe. So I
go back to the document that she used to pretty much dig up most
of the dirt on these guys, which was this report, which was
linked to the show note notes, a Greenpeace report called caulk
into Coke, Coke industry. Scotch is the way I'd pronounce it.
Koch Industries secretly funding climate change machine. Oh,
wait a minute. There. They've got the weather machine switch.
Cool.
Cool. So they had it's a really good article, I mean, because
you can, it's just completely lopsided, and they go on and on
with all the stuff that they does in this in the New Yorker
article. But I got the biggest kick out of the lack of the dork
besides these photos that are throughout the piece, which have
nothing to do with anything these photos come from
everywhere. They're essentially clip art, but it's all again
getting kind of getting associative. You see you reading
about the Koch brothers here and then you're seeing a refinery
smokestacks, belching black smoke next,
deleting this is another thing that people don't realize is
when you read these articles, and you just continue the
picture, you may not even really pay attention to it. And I think
it is mainly Getty Images that they use, but this is all very
associated It really it melds into your mind and sets the
tone. I mean, this is it really does matter what you're seeing.
So they have the list of all the major stuff that the Koch boys
have invested in, including like the Cato Institute, by the way,
and I no matter what anyone thinks of my politics, I think
the Cato Institute does some of the best work for of all the
think tanks in the country. I've read a lot of their books and
they have they're just outstanding operation.
Apparently according to the report here, the Cato Institute
if you listen to Mayor and others, the Koch brothers
started the Cato Institute but if you look at their actual
funding, they only received a million dollars from the Koch
foundations from 2005 to 2008 Which is what $300,000 A year
that's not enough to make this place operate let me tell you
we can't we would be nice to run this show off of that if we
could make it you would
I take it I take it to listen first then we can
Koch brothers someone must know the Cobra Do you know what oh my
kid and we can't even get to Mel Gibson?
Yeah, we couldn't get the Well Mel Gibson maybe harder to get
the Koch brothers maybe yeah, you might be anyway okay, let's
let me here's the way these guys this is the way this this thing
reads. I'm gonna just read a segment they have all these
foundations coke it says coke foundations and climate denial.
This is all about the climate aspect of things I'm just gonna
read from their report about their description of for
example, one of the groups that the Koch brothers have fund is
the Heritage Foundation which is a major conservative think tank
that everybody knows about but here's what they say the
Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank that
misinterpret science and policy regarding the climate
No. Well hold on a second hold on
the sciences and science and uses their conclusions to argue
against action on global warming now wait a minute are you
telling me it seriously that this group Its job is to miss
interpret? What we're going to do today Bill let's missile
reports here we need to misinterpret
Are you kidding me? Why just come out and say it
that's what they say they know they'd come out and say it
nobody cares. Foundation is a conservative think tank that
misinterpret science.
Yeah, that's right, bastards.
Anyway, every one of these things is slanted to this to
this report is so sick, that it's like ridiculous that it's
used as the document that is pretty much the foundations for
this New Yorker article. And I mean, she did have some other
work too. But this thing here is just an incredible is out now
laugh to laugh riot
is actually a great article just while we're on the science,
cutting this Sunday the Gitmo Nation The Sunday Times called
Super Freakonomics everything you know about global warming is
wrong. And it's it's about marveled marveled. Nathan
Myhrvold from
Oh, yeah, Nathan's a genius.
Oh, it's just total genius. And he has this little this little
group and they're actually laughing about so you know, so
they what they're saying is long story short you have to read
it's in the show notes no agenda show.com is yeah, there may be
some global warming but it's actually because of water vapor.
That's the That's the worst greenhouse gas there is water
ice clouds and but they're sitting there so merval
certified genius who study with Stephen Hawkins you know,
they're saying is co2 is actually really good. It's total
bull crap it's all for cap and trade. He's real scientists
here. And they're actually members of IPCC which kind of
blows me away. And they and when the reporter mentions Al Gore
the algo brother that's literally that in the article
they'll have that grown well brother so that's a it's a good
read that some real scientists are not buying into this bull
crap.
So anyway, yeah, well, we're obviously in the minority on
this argument. But here's what's interesting who anyway, this hit
piece goes on and on and on. But what would became interesting
was in the discussions and I have a bunch of clips maybe we
should play a couple of them before I have to put a stop to
this because I've just got too deep into it. All right, let's
let's play some clips. That's good. What
do we got? Well, we
got a bunch of clips from Democracy Now. They really went
for it. You know, this guy.
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. So first, we had NPR now we have
democracy now. So apparently, there was a memo somewhere that
said, let's go get the Koch brothers. Yeah, okay. Just so I
understand this. This is a media hit. Totally. Okay. Got it.
So let's play the intro and now we'll go open up the file and
see what else we got.
Well, I'm gonna talk about another piece now check, check,
Louis, you're quoted in this major article on the latest
issue of The New Yorker magazine by Jane Mayer, that profiles
billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, who have quietly
given more than $100 million to right wing causes. Jane Mayer
writes quote in Washington, David Koch is best known as part
of a family that's repeatedly funded stealth attacks on the
federal government and the Obama administration in particular
with his brother Charles, who's 74 David Koch owns virtually all
of Koch Industries, a conglomerate headquartered in
Wichita, Kansas, whose annual revenues are estimated to be
$100 billion. The cokes operate oil refineries in Alaska, Texas
and Minnesota and control some 4000 miles of pipeline. Koch
Industries owns brawny paper towels, Dixie Cups Georgia
Pacific lumber, Stainmaster carpet and lycra among other
products.
We already heard all
that as boring Yeah, but did you notice something interesting?
It's the exact same exact same litany of information that was
given by Terry Gross
Oh, totally, totally. And I love the way goes $100 billion
the difference between her and Terry Gross is that you will
emphasize things that she thinks is you know, negative
information 100 barriers and play clip to
Okay, here we go goes on to write quote. Indeed, the
brothers have funded opposition campaigns against so many Obama
administration policies from health care reform to the
economic stimulus program that in political circles their
ideological network as no is known as the Koch tapas. I never
heard
this what I've never heard this anywhere. Koch would Koch
depthless the octopus like octopus, they must be
worried about these guys that they're pulling this on a lot
hit on him. There must be
well they figured out that you know, I don't think they're
worried so much about the Koch brothers is trying to get him to
back off. I think there were I think the progressives are
worried sick about the libertarian or not slippery
chairs about the about the Tea Partiers and in fact, again,
will st or chimed in about the Tea Party as being a some sort
of crazy corrupt group that is going to ruin the country and
they're all racist pigs. Yeah.
That's right. All right. Can we get off of this because it's
getting tedious.
Okay, well, let me give you one more that you gotta get for
sure. PLAY CLIP eight.
Okay, you can already see the title is already turning me on
theater
building, which now bears its name David Koch's name. He's
given $20 million dollars to the American Museum of Natural
History who's dinosaur weighing his name for him? This spring
after notice what
a horrible guy do you donate into the dinosaur museum?
The best part of his
scheme was in the decrepit state of towns outside the
Metropolitan Museum of Art he pledged $10 million to
Oh no, he's giving money to arts. This is bad. The
government is the only one who can give money to art,
renovate them. And he serves on the board of Memorial Sloan
Kettering Cancer Center where after he donated more than $40
million in endowed chair and Research Center, were named for
him. Now later in the piece. It's very interesting because it
talks about the fact that Koch Industries became a major
producer of formaldehyde, after it bought Georgia Pacific, the
paper and Wood Products Company for $21 billion. So Jane Mayer,
asked James Hoffman, associate director at the National
Institute for Environmental Health Sciences, a division of
the NIH about this he said it was disgusting for coke to be
serving on the National Cancer Advisory Board have said it's
just not good for public health. Vested interests should not be
on the board. He went on those boards are very important.
They're very influential as to whether NCI goes into
formaldehyde or not billions of dollars are involved in
formaldehyde.
Oh, what a C word. Isn't it? Unbelievable. So the guy is the
way I grew up. In America, you didn't wait for the government
to help you out. You know, if you had a cause you went to your
community bank, your community bank would give money to
anybody. By the way before they were bought up. They would
always shell out money for the community. You went around and
if you were really wealthy, you build hospital wings and then
stuff for cancer. And then oh, wait, it's clearly to get his
formaldehyde business going. Yes. Smith
says that's the only thing they can hang all that on, by the
way, they emphasize that you know, this is a company that's
100 but how many they don't even sell a billion dollars worth of
formaldehyde. I mean, it's ridiculous. Okay,
I'm done with this. I just, I just want to finish that by
playing one more commercial from NPR and then we're done with
this. Yeah, that's much funnier.
I gotta I gotta be quiet enough. I don't want to play another
clip. I do
not want to play a commercial from NPR. Let's see what
we'll get. Support for NPR comes from Chase hawk. We already had
that
one okay now No no no it's your turn is over no one more thing I
turn it turn is
over you've hog the last 20 minutes about these Koch
brothers you clearly have a hard on for
yeah wait one more thing apparently these guys were
against the S O to cap and trade scheme that came up years ago
that everyone uses the other reason that we can do cap and
trade and why it would work is because it worked with esto too
and acid rain. Remember that? Yeah, but that was cap not
trade? No, it was cap and trade there was a cap and trade
scheme. Okay, I have a link in the show notes from a left wing
site called Green left. That claims now that the cap and
trading scheme for sulfur dioxide was bullcrap. Nothing's
been done about sulfur dioxide and that might explain the fact
that the ocean supposedly are getting more acidic is because
this whole sulfur dioxide thing has been swept under the carpet
scam. Scam.
All right. Oh, boy. Gee, now I gotta pull something out really
quickly that just can put everybody into a different mode.
I've got a comedic thing we can switch gears.
Well how about this there's been a flurry of sightings of a UFO
in fact one even crashed in Fresno and there's no this
Seriously there's a crash site there's there's pictures of the
smoking wreckage. Military Forces apparently immediately on
the scene for this triangular craft. And lots of pictures and
video in the show notes no agenda show.com And this
happened on the 22nd of August the crash was on the 24th of
August but there's been tons of you're sending me this is like
there's been tons of of sightings around Fresno they're
in the hills of USSD
it's the High Speed Rail people
right and I wanted to only say well there's a couple of things
I wanted to introduce a new mean you TriCity this fits in
perfectly with our human resources theme as now.
Chemistry post doctorates. SHAN Wen Tao and wrong lOn. At the
Heriot Watt University School of Engineering have discovered a
way to turn urine into electricity and clean water and
they've dubbed it you TriCity.
That's not going to catch on.
It'll be good though. Just picking your tank, right?
Like yeah, I think that would be great.
I'd love it. I'd love it TriCity.
You TriCity you watch. But that's all we're going to be
good for. We're only going to be good for power power generation.
That's what it is.
So there's a show on that people have ever so often somebody
says, Well, you guys haven't talked about this. It's just
right up your alley. It's a new drama that that's on before or
after madmen on AMC called Rubicon. And I think it's a
great died I really still trying to get over the hump whether
this is going to sustain I don't think so. Because you have to
definitely watch the episodes from the beginning, it's going
to be a great DVD set. It's about an ages, like a super
agency, a spy agency that is that contracts to other spy
agencies, and they're part of the government but nobody knows
what they do. And it's just, it's a spice.
A lot of people have been emailing about this show.
Well, I got a clip from it. That has nothing to do with the show
itself. But it seemed to me that there's some spy people involved
in the production of this show some spooks along the way. And
within the right within the middle of the context of the
show. One of the characters, one of the main evil characters
who's a super spy, gives advice on what kind of briefcase to
buy. Okay, let's listen. I'm watching since a minute, this is
actually good advice.
What kind of briefcase divide,
so if you're gonna buy or if anybody out there wants to be
like your look kind of like a government like a spook, you got
to have the right equipment, you have to have the right briefcase
and it's not one of those square things that have the two locks
on it. It's one of those old funky looking things with the
one bolt in the middle but let let him explain briefcase. The
two people out there who want to know if you're gonna go out, buy
a briefcase, get one of these or if you
want to identify your neighborhood spook there'll be
walking around with one of these Exactly.
really could use a good briefcase. Nothing, of course,
but something that lets people take you seriously kind of
attached to the When I have there's no handle for security
together. What? Handcuffs avoid anything that announces its
newness, its cost or its distinctiveness. You need one
that locks preferably with a key combinations have a nasty habit
of locking themselves at the worst moments, clasps, nose
zippers and none of those spring loaded closures of announced to
the whole world you're opening the store. I prefer a single
class something that allows a file to go in without stopping
or using two hands
Yeah, well what's interesting is that is a disinformation because
I happen to be in possession of a spoof briefcase. And that's
not the way it looks. So that's bullcrap.
I liked the idea of having it you can put it in shows
demonstrates how you can put a file in it so quickly. I was
impressed by that.
Yeah, but it's bullcrap. Because that is not an official spy
briefcase is one of those boring brown ones that does have a
handle and has two spring loaded clasps. And it has a secret
document carrier inside. Just saying, okay, don't ask me
how Stan, I know what you're talking about. Right. But I'm
just saying I think for people who I don't know, I don't know
if that's just a bad idea. Maybe this is a lecture to people who
used to be, I don't know. It just right in the middle of the
show. There's just lecture about what kind of a briefcase to buy.
And I'm thinking now,
cruising around Gitmo nation from the news a judge sentenced
the former Faulkner university student to join the military and
perform community service for a post he had made on Facebook.
That led to a campus lockdown. I'm not quite sure how this
works. But this 23 year old had done some weird posts on
Facebook and everyone got freaked out and so they closed
down the campus. And then Montgomery County Circuit Judge
Tracy McCool. He said, Well, I'm gonna make I'm gonna make you
join the military. It'd be good for you, son. How does that
work? How can you force someone to join the military?
gunpoint?
Yeah, that's weird, isn't it? Yeah, I just thought that was
kind of strange. I think the finally figured out a way to get
rid of our guns. This is a good one, by the way, because you
know, if you can't get rid of the guns, what's the obvious
thing to do?
Concentration Camp. No.
Get rid of the bullets. Oh, yeah. And well, let's and the
EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, our friend
Lisa Jackson, has decided that lead shot lead bullets along
with lead fishing sinkers violate the 1976 Toxic Substance
Control Act. So you can have bullets as long as they're not
made of lead.
Yeah, and they cost like three times as much. I guess depleted
uranium would be good. That would be the stuff. But that's,
that's it's like, wow, okay. And they're actually moving ahead
with this. They're really trying to, you know, it falls under the
Toxic Substance Control Act, and can and will be banned by the
Environmental Protection Agency. It's kind of weird. In
Cleveland. The green police have actually come into action. Just
like in Gitmo nation east, the beta testing grounds for all of
Gitmo nation. They're now putting RFID tags into the
garbage bins. And they will be tracking whether you move these
bins enough so you have to move at least once a week to put it
out at the curb. If you don't, you're gonna get a little knock
at the door. We're gonna come see what if you're not
recycling.
Bad person. So gear, sir gear, send us an email, I think you
must have it. They're discussing the fact that that bogus thing
that we saw, making oil from plastic and oil from plastics,
it failed to note a couple of problems. One of them is that
and there's a good article in the wiki page by the way it
called it you look at here's what you look at. So we're
talking about here I realized it was he said this doc, this is
not a new technology. This is old. It's called the polymer
depolymerization that's been around for like four or five
years, right? No, no decades, decades, even the invention of
plastic it was developed.
Okay, so this reversible process, and this is the
Japanese video from the United Nations University. Yeah, who
are supposed to like make us all hot and horny, and remind us
that everything in our world is made of oil.
Yeah, totally bogus. totally bogus. Can't be the problem has
always been NET is the break, there's a break even probably
takes more energy to make this
reverse. That's what I thought unless you use like microwave
but it will be really difficult because it produces combustible
gas and all kinds of
right. And apparently, if you read the wiki page, an approach
that exceeded breakeven and others you could actually do it
was developed by Illinois, back microbiologist Paul baskets in
the in the 1980s. And refined over the next 15 years, he's got
a million fans, this guy's never mentioned, of course, by the
United Nations because it has to be some Asian, I would think
because they're smarter than we are. document is a whole bunch
of these things. But the problem that gear points out and has to
be taken into account is that when you push the plastic back
into a petroleum product, you get the whole range of petroleum
products, which includes some, you know, oil, and a lot of gas.
Yeah, explosive stuff, which blows
like blow you up. Yeah, no, but it doesn't matter. Because it's
a meme. Now. It's out there. And I was like, Oh, this is great.
There was a we were talking about women and how advertising
is completely messing with their heads. Because he's not just
used for political motors like you were talking with the Koch
brothers. But advertising is used to really really mess with
your head and poor women. Beautiful Creatures of this
earth. They really get screwed. There's this that has been
pulled at this point.
We really get screwed. Yeah, they do get screwed because
they're saying you're just this like a ton go on. Yeah, well,
thank
you. Summers II Eve. Which, of course, is fine maker of
products. Has an ad and he has a beautiful, smart looking blonde
woman. She has stunningly beautiful. Looks a bit like
Mickey actually. And he's wearing a business jacket. And
it says confidence at work. Says the ad how to ask for a raise.
Well, you've got to you've got to feel fresh down there.
They've literally said if you want to get a raise, if you're
going into your boss, to ask for a raise, you have to clean your
vagina. That is that is what this ad is saying. It was in
Women's Day magazine.
Yeah. And we got a couple of links to that thing.
cleanliness of privates plays a pivotal role in whether or not
women will get a raise at work. How do you feel? You know, you
should you should burn Women's Day. They've pulled the ad, of
course. Oh, we're sorry. We did. We did. You took it the wrong
way. Oh my God.
It is one of these habits like that old member those old you
probably this may be well, before
you go there before you go there. Have you ever seen the
Vagina Monologues?
You know, I couldn't watch them. Well,
Mickey has done a scene from the vagina. I have never seen it but
she for some whatever workshop whatever. She did a scene from
The Vagina Monologues and it was about douching. And the whole
thing is, you know, it's crazy. The names of these products are
like summer rain, and you know, and then fluffy lavender. It's
like, you know, that's not the way vaginas supposed to smell.
And who made this up and why does it have to smell like that?
And where did that come from? And it's a very good piece
actually from the Vagina Monologues.
Yes, like saying the word vagina I'm not convinced of it.
You know, they in fact in the in that monologue, it goes like
when I ordered some fish I wanted to smell like fish.
That's literally part of the monologue. But it is it's it's
kind of we're out of whack. We're totally out of whack and I
feel bad for women. Yeah, we don't have that you have any?
Well there's a ball washing product actually.
Is Yeah, yeah, there's
a serious one
here Sure. That's not on the golf
course. No, it is a real ball washing product I can find it
for you somewhere it's like clean my balls.com or something.
But but even for guys it's like funny right but for women Let me
see. Yeah, we
make a shower dude.
Ball cleaning products. Let me see.
Bar Soap. Yeah, but
it's just it's sad that women have to go through that and no
one questions it
well men do have to go through a two apparently with the ball
washing probably pay less attention to it. Yeah,
it's ball smell.
They don't go more blatant with these commercials. I mean, there
was this years ago whatever happened to bad breath. They had
used to have these commercials don't broadcast bad breath. And
they had a you know kind of a cartoon character with this
these radio waves coming out of their mouth. Or people drop.
I wish I wish I remembered what the hell it was. They had a
whole website. This man I can't remember what it's called. I'll
find it somewhere and then I'll put it in the show notes because
I know you're just piling in to get some Okay, enough of that.
The London Telegraph cranks up the Ministry of Truth terror
frighten you are asked machine. Michael Clark, former government
adviser and the head of the Royal United Services Institute
says he believes that security services could struggle to cope
with the new generation of extremists seeking to carry out
lone wolf attacks. A report published today Professor Clark
says over the next five to 10 years 800 prisoners in jail for
non terrorism offenses. And by the way, we have a picture here
of a dude with a with a towel on his head and a beard will be
released to the streets having been radicalized in jail. They
will be joined by convicted terrorists serving short
sentences who Once freed are likely to be just as committed
to the cause of jihad as before. Therefore, terror alert in the
United Kingdom is on severe we've got a new wave come on
people, new wave of terror attacks, and they will be
targeting aircraft trains, hotels and sporting events. Be
afraid Be very afraid people have good Malaysian east. You
need to be protected homegrown terrorists in the streets. Be
afraid this new government was all good. And this was kind of
funny. from Gitmo nation, great white north. Total propaganda
piece in the Ottawa sun. There were men being charged with a
homegrown errors again, a terrorist cell. Well, we spotted
this meme a year. Yeah, but this one brings in another meme and
it gets quite funny. So they're plotting to bomb Parliament Hill
and the Montreal subway. The allegedly planned the systematic
attacks using Ottawa Public Library computers communicating
over the interwebs they were sending coded messages according
to Canada's Communications Security Establishment, but they
were very easy to crack these coded messages. And they were
using all kinds of key words that our system is picked up on
like al Qaeda and I Ed. Can you imagine these guys actually,
you're in a public library and you're sending messages back to
home base because we need to be financed? Yes. Hello. Hello,
Muhammad. We are planning an IED attack. It's like yeah, so it
literally says here police said that so of course no. No
explosive devices found but they did find 50 electronic circuit
boards that can be used to remotely detonate so called
improvised explosive devices. Police said the suspects had
schematics video drawings, instructions books and
electrical components to build IEDs so this is this is a group
of guys Lamas homegrown terrorists clearly but what's
interesting is one of these guys cool rom share.
Yeah shows up on Canadian
Canadian Idol.
These things like see that Did you see the clip?
Yes, he's singing like terrible singing like Avril Lavigne but I
think they changed his voice in the clip for some for some
reason it comes through really weird for Canadian
ego but back on Canadian Idol it's
Kurama by the way, I love it that he's got the Taliban hat on
he's he's got the beard he's wearing the dress is like
completely like I'm amazed that no one was ducking under the
table. Oh my God, he's got an IUD strapped to his jet he's
gonna blow America Canada Canadian out of the bed. Are you
good good hail from Pakistan. I'm embarrassed
for a couple of years I came in at 2k five so it's been
about I came into pro everything sciencing for it I love the
added bits here April Levine Okay, so what are you gonna sink
first? Whatever you guys complicated complicated Yes.
Anyway, so you can watch that video it's quite funny. He looks
like a Taliban I'm amazed that the judge didn't go You look
like a Taliban
I don't know I don't get it. It's just gotten out of control.
It's probably there's probably it's probably not a politically
correct in Canada. It's a just suggest that somebody who looks
just like a Taliban is Taliban.
But it's a joke. The whole thing is a joke. So this guy
well, they got a lot of publicity for guess what show
for Canadian Idol. Of course, it was like, wow, we know. We
should be screening all these candidates.
And they didn't know that guy was actually the same guy. I
mean, the whole thing could have been shown at an
idol should be taken off the air because it is clearly a breeding
ground for terrorists. And while you're at it, take American Idol
off the air as well. Take them all off the air is a breeding
ground for terrorists. I tell you I love this. It's like How
stupid do we are we are because we are retired. Aren't all of us
when we actually think oh, well, gee, I'm glad they got that clue
pie they really gooey,
gooey duck the blue, they're
gonna blow up everything Oh yeah, we
dodged a stainless steel bullet.
So this guy comes into the country. He uses public library
computers, which you can't even get no agenda on the public
library computers. Of course, you know, just like the stupid
as you know, go to an internet cafe, but don't go to the public
library and use their computer. And and then he's like, You know
what, while I'm building this ie D, I'm gonna go on Canadian
Idol. This is a great idea. Let's see if I can win us some
money, then we don't have to email for some financing from
Pakistan. It's like, How stupid are we that we buy into this?
Idiots?
We're also this part of a campaign to I mean, everything
is anti Pakistan nowadays. Yeah. It says actually getting quite
amusing.
And then the thing that the story that I'm sure you saw this
about the BP subpoena power for the government investigation?
Did you see any of this, John? No, I
missed that one completely.
So apparently, the House of Representatives passed a bill
like 292. One or what? How many congressmen are there? I should
know this.
Well, what does it take to pass a bill? Well, but anyway,
was like 200. This is a very interesting clip 292. One, and
then it goes to the Senate had only and then the Senate is 50.
In there. Right? So the Senate and this is about giving the
giving Congress subpoena power to invit investigate BP and
transaction everything else. And they invoke that they finally
you're seeing the rule and vote, which is the big joke of the
American government, to the way it works. If you want to bring a
bill to the floor. Both sides have to agree and all. So if the
Democrats bring a bill to the floor, and the Republicans want
to block it, this is what everyone's talking about.
They're using, you know, procedural measures, procedures
block legislation, all they have to do is say, we object, and
then it doesn't come to the floor, both sides, both sides
have to agree. So the Democrats can do this as well. Obviously,
when they've done it, of course, they've done it. And it's kind
of a ridiculous thing, but and one guy representing the entire
Republican Party can say we object and the bill does not
come to the floor. So this bill, which passed the House is
brought to the floor of the Senate. And we'll have a listen.
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the Judiciary
Committee be discharged of s 346 to a bill to provide subpoena
power to the National Commission on the British Petroleum oil
spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and that the Senate then proceed to
its consideration is your objection on behalf of other
members of the Republican Conference object.
So that's it. That's all he has to say denied it doesn't come to
the floor. So she tries another one objection is heard. Madam
President.
Senator from New Hampshire. Madam President, I ask unanimous
consent the Senate proceed to the immediate consideration of
calendar number four, four to hr 5481. A bill to give subpoena
power to the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil
Spill and Offshore drilling, that the bill be read a third
time and passed and the motion to consider be laid upon the
table with no intervening action or debate. This is legislation
that passed the House 422 one is your objection. On behalf of
other members of the Republican conference I object. Now she
actually is hard. Now she goes crazy. Madam President, I
senator from New Hampshire. I don't understand what is so
objectionable in the house 169 Republicans voted in favor of
giving the Presidential Commission subpoena power. They
understand how important that is. Because this commission
begins their investigation in the next few weeks. This should
not be a partisan issue. I don't understand why my colleagues on
the other side of the aisle are so
this is what's interesting. Immediately it's turned in it's
like a script. I swear to God, it's like a script. It's like
someone said, Okay, we've got to make everyone pissed off again.
So why don't we do this? Why don't we have this bill
introduced? Have the Republicans deny it and then come out and
say the Republicans are with the big oil companies. It's like a
script and literally it follows that script and and by the way,
I don't understand why No, why would anyone object besides the
fact that everyone who objects oil companies gets killed like
Ted Stevens, which might be the message where maybe he's
Republicans going Holy crap. I can't fly anymore. If I vote for
this, turning this
into a partisan issue. I find it unbelievable. That After
everything the people of the Gulf region have endured, and
that this entire country has witnessed for over two months
now that anyone is still standing with the oil company
that caused this disaster instead of the victims who are
suffering from it. I hope the American people understand
that this is a clip and as you brings in some other dude, and
it just goes on and on. And he's just like, what are they hiding?
And I don't understand it myself. Why? Why would they
kill? Why would they kill the subpoena power? Why do they do
that? Besides, there's
something else in here. We have to go do some research to find
out, you know, Bill us 435. We should always know that number.
Yes, we are representatives and 100. Obviously, in the 50 states
in the Senate by Senate. Yeah. 435. We should just have it.
Yeah. I don't know why we don't know that. It's dumb. Yes, it
is. So anyway, the point is, is that, yeah, yeah, I know that
this is the big bitch and moan that does Obama know, they're
blocking everything. You know, they can change the rules.
In a heartbeat. All we have to do is just say, let's change the
rules. Yeah. And
because they, you know, you know, I don't even think you
need 60 to change the rules, I think, which is another rule.
They can change. But they won't do it. Yeah. Because they're
both sides are whole operations corrupt. But it would be nice if
they explained it.
Yeah, no, they don't it just, I don't know,
what is possible. They think that they, somebody's just gonna
go nuts with subpoenas.
Yeah, but still, you know, it seems like bad PR to do it to do
this.
Yeah. No, it does seem like bad PR. And I'm not absolutely sure
what the deal is. I mean, it could be your basic your theory
that you know, they're afraid of getting killed. But
well, they seem to people who object to the oil companies do
have a habit of dying.
It's definitely a positive. Can
I just say Steve Jobs. I hate your safari 5.1 It sucks Monkey
Balls. Or they've
washed monkey balls.
I still can't find that commercial. I really wish I
could. It was funny. It was like some doctor and it was a real
product. But But now my web
browser I was on at the ran on April 1, right? None and
I was real product. But my I had other stories. I had stories
about the egg safety.org Maybe I can open it up. But Safari is
like, just totally freaking out. Yeah, egg safety.org. Go there,
John. Because this, of course is brought to you by the United egg
producers. And it's really nice. And United egg producers are
basically a bunch of guys who are pretending to be small
farmers. But when you go look at their farms, there's no pictures
of the of the of the hens. They This is a story of a family.
Like Hi, we've been raising chickens for 100 years,
because the beaks are cut off. The chickens are just shitting
on each other. It's terrible.
That's right. The beaks are cut off. You're right. That's
absolutely right. And they have they got videos about how good
they are. And it just becomes so incredibly clear that this is
all about pushing the little farmers out and and moving the
big chicken producers in you see there were some videos. Farm to
Table. You're not an egg producers are certified. And
it's like they got a look at these two jibber Ionis Hello,
I'm Bob Krause, and this is my wife, Sally, fifth generation
egg farmers, our family egg farm in the upper Midwest. My
family's been farming in this community since 1875. You gotta
see this video, because so they set it all up. You know, it's
like, what is it to Ezra and what's the pitchfork duo?
Yeah, the American Gothic? Yes, exactly.
And they set it up and it's just like, Oh, we're a little family
here. And then you see these chickens all in, you know, like
in cages and the Oh, but they've got ventilation, you see, like a
big fan blowing. And they've got to they've got the sufficient
sunlight, you see a window. It's really, really sad. And and this
is like, Oh, I heard you EPC certified. You need to have the
good eggs. You can't have eggs that have poop on them. That
would be bad. Egg safety.org Everybody go ahead and learn
about egg safety.
Yeah, we're going to end up with a situation and you out there
who listen to this show in rural communities. You're not going to
be hearing this on anybody else's show. By the way. You out
there in rural communities. There's going to be some USDA or
some other guy who sent me live and down the street saying eggs
for sale pulls into you don't have a license to sell that
dozen eggs from your own chickens.
This picture you sent me of the poor chicken with his beak cut
off which they do to combat cannibalism. It says here at
eggs they even say they have a whole thing and they're FAQs.
Well, you know these chickens they really nuts man. They go
into trying to eat each other. So we got to chop their beaks
off. It's sad. It's just To add, ah, that's really nice. He's
egg free. I mean, they're their whole thing is to break down.
You know the little guy, you're exactly right, screw them. And
they say, here's another photo, we gotta send a link. I don't
want to show them. This is a photo of one of the farms. This
one has 1234567 layers, at least that I can see of chickens on
essentially on top of each other laying eggs on a conveyor belt
and pooping on each other. Yeah, you know, this is just
disgusting.
What is beak trimming? You EP certified guidelines recommend
beak trimming for cage and cage free production, only when
necessary to prevent feather pecking and cannibalism, and
only when carried out by properly trained and monitored
personnel. Some of the advantages of beak trimming
include reduced pecking, produce feather pulling, produce
cannibalism, better further condition, less fearfulness,
less nervousness, less chronic stress and decreased mortality.
A that gives you better eggs. This unbelievable. Cannibalism,
why do you think they're eating each other because they're
freaking out.
That and the sick of the food they're getting fed. You ever
see an American eggs are the worst in the world. The yolks
are so tasteless and light colored. They've actually gotten
to the point where they've tried to educate the public. I have
had people say, oh, there's something wrong with eggs that
the yolks are too dark.
That's actually what you want.
You don't want a dark egg. Yeah, you
totally if you get a really light yellow egg. That's because
they're fed all kinds of crap.
Right? It's it's not even producing that that thing
couldn't even hatch that egg if you want it to.
Anyway, it's all part of the Codex Alimentarius. Enjoy.
I made a bearnaise sauce yesterday with a couple of
course hands, you know, real chicken eggs. Of course you did
the difference I did the difference between a bearnaise
sauce made with French butter and real chicken eggs, and the
ones that you would make from Safeway eggs. It's like night
and
day. Absolutely. Gianna. Our time is up. I do want to get out
of here and I want to do it with some. And now back to real.
Because amidst all of this as we open your eyes to what is
actually happening in the world, and all you have to do is just
be an observer and don't worry too much about it. You know, you
can help yourself and your family and your friends and
people who are around you and you can live a very happy and
fulfilling life. But it makes me even happier when I know that
Playboy model Karissa Shannon has confirmed she has a sex tape
with her and Heidi Montauk and Vivid Entertainment is now in in
negotiations to release that that is going to be one hot
video. I'm very happy about that just makes me smile. I'm glad.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you entertainment industry for doing
something good. More good work. It's just just two girls going
at it. There's nothing like it.
But with a camera on them. And of course they're not hamming it
up at all. No, no.
And they've deuced with Summer's Eve. It's it makes me happy.
Makes me happy.
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The Canadian comedic clip was the briefcase. That was
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toward sustaining the stream. So if you're listening live, I will
be on twit today, which is in no small part thanks to you, John,
as well as the producers who incessantly hounded out the Leo
to let me be on it's gonna be an interesting show. We've got
Kevin Rose will be on, I'll be on and Scoble will be on. Oops.
All we needed was Jason Calacanis, and it would have
been complete. So
and Rose has a tendency to bail out.
He might, he might, but I think it's gonna be really I've got
I've got some
you'll be doing all the talking because Kevin won't say anything
about anything anymore. Well, I've
learned that you know, especially with the twit
audience, you want to hold back a little bit. You don't want to
be hogging the mic, so I'll just hang back but I've got some
interesting takes on for instance, the the Paul Allen
lawsuit so I will look out for that. I have a contrarian View.
Oh, so you're not gonna bring it on our show. And you're gonna do
use it on twit. You want me to you want me to? Go ahead do
again? We'll talk about later. Yeah, it's probably inaccurate
anyway. It's a really good giving away the store to the
other shows. Do you want me to do it, he'll be happy to know
I've just said this is all kinds of crap I have to take from you
when I do this show? Well, I'm gonna
I'm asking you honestly. Would you like me to say to tell you?
No, I want to hear I wouldn't be surprised. I want to hear the
reaction of these guys. I'm sure it'd be interesting is
the reason why I want to do it. So if I, I think Leo listens to
the show. So I don't want him to be to be prepared. And what I
was thinking was, you know, I'd lay out
he's now a dog in the article, he shouldn't have said anything.
No, he won't. Now that's impossible. You can't dog that's
the that's the top news of the week. You can't dog that top
news of the week.
But my whole plan a lot of flack for it, I can tell you that my
whole plan is I set up this contrarian view. And then I say,
you know, these are the kinds of things you'll hear on no agenda.
And I think we'll pick up to people
I think anybody who listens to twit that's not listening to no
agenda, I mean, do for one thing, we're only going to pick
up people with a certain we're not going to get all the you
know, these kinds of progressives that very few of
them listen to know it to our show. And
well, it's worth it is it has a huge audience and and I get lots
of emails from people saying, you know, I heard John talking
about no agenda on Twitter. And now I'm a fan. So
I think we've got all we can get.
I will see. We'll see. I'll keep a close eye on the numbers.
Knock them dead.
As I said, Well, I'll do my best. Righto. So, coming to you
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