Once again it's time for the programme that contains no
commercials. No jingles has absolutely no talent and of
course, no agenda coming to you from a snow covered Britain in
the curry manner. I'm Adam curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak and Aleste and snow covered actually
warm Northern California. Snow you have snow
Yeah, we had some we woke up this morning to a blanket of
snow it's all across Western Europe and the United Kingdom.
It's it's almost April and here we are. We got snow. Wow. You
can say that again?
Well, no, it's been hot last week this last week to fit
together put it that we have a little Beata. It was so hot. I
had to put the top down.
Am I supposed to feel happy? Sad?
Yeah, that's a struggle.
Oh, yes. Oh, to put that because it's not an electric top. You
mean it's actual work? Is that what you're saying?
You have to get out and put it down and get back in.
We had to dig out our snow boots from the closet. That's what we
were doing. It's unbelievable. We had boy we had almost spring
but we thought we had an early spring in February. My Garden by
the way is in full bloom. I have a I'm very particular about our
backyard. It's a real proper English garden. And now
everything's covered with snow. And I don't know if everything
will survive it. Whoo. Yeah. Well, so last week, John, we
what do we do the show on? On Saturday, right last week. So
it's Sunday today? Yeah. And so we were probably still basking
in the glory of another fine programme shoved out the wires
through the tubes known as the interwebs when the Federal
Reserve was making deals, cutting all kinds of corners in
secret on a Sunday to save well, not to save Bear Stearns, but to
I guess, to help out JP Morgan, or I don't know, man is this
this actually blew me away. This is unprecedented.
Seems like corruption of some sort.
I know I think it's punishment. Actually. I know a lot of the
guys over at Bear Stearns or I guess I did know a lot of the
guys over at Bear Stearns and they're kind of a kind of a
maverick. You know, they also didn't help bail out some other
banks about things maybe nine or 10 years ago. I mean, look,
obviously the government could have put the 30 billion into
Bear Stearns that would have worked, but no, they gave it to
JP Morgan Chase, so that they could then use that as a
security for buying Bear Stearns. So I think it's
punishment. It's like Alright, you guys screw. We're not
bailing you out.
I like it. I like the theory. The thing that bugs me the most
about the Bear Stearns story is besides the fact that Jim Cramer
said not to get out of Barry, I know it was
days before right he was yelling, everything is fine and
Bear Stearns
and is that you look at the chart, I think Bear Stearns is
sometimes was one maybe $160 A share and then it was $60 a
share when Kramer was telling people not to worry about it.
And now it was two less than we were last time we want to hit
bottom I just want to I'm thinking what a fan I mean this
is a short you know a putt or a short that that would it for
very little money would have made anyone an instant
millionaire.
Absolutely. Yeah. Although it's not trading at $2 It's actually
trading at I think seven or eight bucks and the role that
have been a good buy down at the bottom then it didn't actually I
don't think it actually went to $2 John that was the that's the
purchase price really went all the way down to two I thought it
was hovering around seven or eight.
I think in his bad day, I think it bounced off a two I had to
look it up but that was down there
but that purchase includes the building, which Hey, by the way,
I wouldn't mind buying the building for 230 million it's
worth like $1.2 billion it's amazing that the real estate is
tied up in the package Yeah, I'm telling you this was a someone
got slapped and actually I think is pretty good because
considering that most of these fund managers and bankers you
know they actually got paid on the deal right so they they lost
all this money or the the money that they were trading with was
based on bad debt but every single time they do a trade they
make money anyway and so now they actually got punished
because all the shareholders of course are completely screwed on
this deal. So I'm I'm sticking with the theory it was it was a
fuck you from the for the Fed. And of course the other banks
who were all part of the mysterious organisation known as
the Federal Reserve.
I like it because the economy's just about to go into the tank,
but luckily, well yeah, big time and doing a good job of Have the
rigging the books?
Well, not really, we're not really rigging, they're really
trying to stop it. But you know, there's just there's no
confidence. No one believes anyone has any money, you know,
and now the games are being played that you and I aren't in,
but I'm sure they're fun to watch from the sideline. You
know, rumours come out. It's like, oh, HBO s is out of
farming. Oh, you know, JP Morgan, they're gonna buy it,
but they're gonna buy bear, but they're actually running into
trouble themselves and be
you know, what bothers me more than anything else is the fact
that the Canadian dollars more valuable than the US dollar?
By a nice margin these days, I believe as well. Hmm.
Well, no, I think it's, I mean, it's always been, you know, 75
cents just a few years ago. Now. It's like, I think it's just
over $1. But it's, the Canadians are getting the biggest kick out
of it. Of course, it ruins a lot of gags that comics like to use.
Yeah, we can't we
can't tell you more good jokes about our northern northern
neighbours.
Right? You know, and they're gloating. Oh, boy, I have to say
the you know that one of them reminded me some time back that
this was the same situations around 1977. Or maybe it was 72
or something like that. But when the were the Vietnam War, the
Canadian dollar became as valuable as the US dollar. So
seems to have something to do with the war.
And speaking of the war, we got a voicemail common which is
short. I want to play for you because apparently we missed
something really big in the news.
Okay, Hi, Adam. Eric from Portland here. I just finished
listening to no agenda. And you and John. were duped. The story
isn't Spitzer. Okay. On Tuesday, William Fox Fallon, Admiral
William, CENTCOM commander, was forced to resign. On Wednesday,
Spitzer announces his resignation. This is like
General MacArthur say I don't want to invade Japan and
resigning. But nobody's talking about Boxtel and resigning.
Because the salacious details in the Spitzer story, and you even
got sucked into it. If those two things are related to the time
he's not related, I just I just can't can't believe it. But I'd
point that out. And maybe you can pick that up on no agenda.
Interesting theory.
Hmm. Well, you know, there's there's no doubt that we're
duped on a day to day basis. I think the general public is
journalists are observers like ourselves, so it's quite likely
that we were duped in fact, and I don't ever deny being duped I
get duped a lot.
Even by your own wife.
When was this? Oh, doesn't the
wife always do bus all the time? Dude. Like yeah, but yesterday I
was we were supposed to do a show and I was like grocery
shopping. Come on. Talk about being duped.
Yeah, well, you know, I actually would prefer doing grocery
shopping to this show. But that's
Oh, I hertz down at hertz. I like to shop that's where I
forgot that about you. You do like to shop I'm not a big
show that my son is down here looking around for him to get a
jacket and wanted to go to the US clothing stores because he's
a he's a tall but thin and he did find something that fits so
they were going to go shopping in San Francisco to cut a bunch
of these vintage places and there's a lot of them San
Francisco and they have some have amazing product. And so you
go in there so you want to come My wife asked me and then she
says Wait, no, no, no, you'll make my son nervous with me
around and I realised that even though I do like to shop I don't
shop like a girl I shop I'm boom, bring it in. Can I get out
and I try to hit as much stuff as I can as fast as I can. Yeah.
Now this shop Go ahead. I'm sorry. But when women when they
shop if you've been shopping with them especially for clothes
my god you might as well shoot yourself. They look at
everything they look at all the prices and they they tried
million things on they don't buy anything and they just so slow
and boring shoppers. It's just horrible.
Unfortunately, this was nothing as exciting as that this was
like the the toilet paper the paper towel the kinda I hate
those runs, man. Everything is heavy, except for the paper
towels. Obviously, everything is heavy. You know, it's like, get
the orange juice, get the milk and it's heavy, heavy stuff.
Heavy for God's sake. And by the way, when we shop for toilet
paper paper towels out here on the West Coast, it's course you
always buy all that stuff at Costco. So you buy huge packages
of like, yeah, no,
that's what I mean. Oh, yeah, it's the same thing. You still
got to do that monthly run right? You got to do the big
one.
We don't crap that much.
I'm so full of shit. I need lots of toilet paper. I got it all
over the place.
You know, every few months maybe
yesterday we were we were supposed actually John called
and I was gotten a little confused by that. Time changes I
love this where America is the only country in the world that
springs forward into daylight savings time before the rest of
the world two weeks if I'm not mistaken so I'm a little
confused about the time but actually we were doing something
up here in the attic which doesn't occur very often.
Patricia had come to me and she said you know I want to do this
she's doing that Holland's Got Talent thing I told you about
the the Dutch version of the the to the reality kind of format
judging show. She's a judge. Yes, she's a judge. And so she
knows the host of the show, we've known the host this show
for a long, long time. And he's kind of a flamboyant, very
successful singer. And so they're going to do they're
going to do a song together during one of these live shows
which come up further in May. She said, You have got this
great idea. We talked about this last week. She wants to do kind
of like Martha Reeves, Martha Reeves and the Vandellas and
wham you know, Wake Me Up Before You Go Go and heat wave kind of
that type of vibe. And and and it doesn't happen very often.
I've ever we've been together 22 years he says would you help me
put together a demo I'm like, I'm not really a musician. He
can programme that should all in MIDI on the computer. So that we
were you know up until all hours of the night last night doing
this thing Do I hear a piece
Yeah, I think so. I'm I don't play too much because it
violates our rules.
Oh, what having no agenda Oh, no music You mean Believe me it's
not music. Okay. It's a demo doesn't count as music. I'll
play a little piece for you just to get the Idaho.
I'll give you one little chorus I forgot to mention Tim Dutch
it's kind of a Motown sound.
You just want to show off the fact that your wife has a voice.
I wanted to show it the fact that I actually played a
baseline on the computer without having any talent.
Yeah, well, you can do a lot on the computer nowadays. With all
this, you can get drums and all kinds of cool. No
kidding. I was at Logic studio that you can buy for Apple, and
I've never really cracked the box. But man oh man. It's
amazing what you can do with that programme. That's why
you're up all night. Yeah, if I'm not, if I'm not making
Motown music, I'm worrying about the rest of the world. That's
what I'm doing my friends.
I'm killing ants.
Big story over here. John, as you see this thing about form, P
H O R M? No. It was a really big story. It's a company. It's a
company that delivers a service. I think it's a it comes in the
form of a server or a box that you instal to ISPs. And what it
does is it injects advertising into web pages that pass through
it. So basically, so and I love that it's a great, so you have
Virgin Media Talk Talk, btw, you know, basically 80 or 90% of the
internet service providers here in the UK have now all signed up
to this programme, and it's opt out. Okay. So and even if even
if you opt out, it's still all going through this, I guess,
like a proxy server that these guys instal and, and they instal
a cookie, on your machine, or on your web browser, I guess. Yeah.
Which is technically on your machine. And, and then they'll
replace irrelevant ads with relevant ads and,
and it's kind of up in the air, they determine if it's relevant,
of course,
well, they're tracking you. That's why they have all this
relevancy. And so there's, there's basically two sides
there. I probably know, the way what I the way I read it was,
oh, great, you know, they're gonna take a random webpage and
just insert a different standard IAB size banner. I think it's
only for sites that participate but of course every ad network
everyone will participate and but this the privacy guys of
course that are that are really up in arms about this because
it's going through their their box, you know, oh, we're not
storing it. We're not storing any of your data your you can't
be connected to your actual data. It's unbelievable. Lies
Yeah, and and I've been getting a lot of calls about people who
have left their torrent, you know, bit torn servers on all
night only to wake up the next day and find out that their ISP
had cut them off because someone had contacted the ISP and given
them their IP address. So there's this it was at EA D I
think is a company out there now that does this.
It's like unbelievable. Yeah, I
mean, if we already knew our phones were being tapped, but
this is now it's getting pretty, pretty heavy man injecting
advertising. Could they just inject a different voice? so
that you would be sound female instead of what you have now
that would be nice.
I actually think you make me sound female with you know that
when you use Audacity, you know, there's that pitch thing is
quite powerful.
I got one of those, I could probably do that on the fly.
Yeah, you probably could I probably I would probably blow
up the blow everything up as I usually do when I try and be
cool. On the technical side.
Yeah, you do. So I, so let's see you Oh, what did the news out
here is the course the the battle is heating up between
Obama and Hillary. Right more distraction. But the funny thing
is, and that's kind of be I was coming to this conclusion, I
actually wrote a note down this because I wanted to discuss it a
little bit, which is the way political people in this country
either isolate themselves, or they actually do their due
diligence. And it turns out that the Democrats seem to be the
ones who do the isolation. And I only say that because in the
office, and this has happened a couple of times I mentioned, I
listened to Rush Limbaugh and I, I listened to him because for
whatever reason, once he's a he's got 15 million listeners.
He's one of the most popular radio people ever. And so you
can learn from him, just for that alone. But the thing is,
you can It's like doing due diligence, if you're a Democrat,
and you wanted to see what the Republicans were up to, you'd
want to listen to this guy. But if you talk to a Democrat about
it, they always say the same thing. How can you listen to
that guy? I can't stand him and they won't even listen,
right? How do they know they can't stand him? Sometimes he's
got some really good stuff and really valid.
Well, the thing he's doing now is called Operation chaos.
Okay, all right. That's now I remember why I don't listen to
it.
Right. So Operation chaos is in play. And the idea is that if
there's a primary coming up, he wants you as a Republican to
issue your Republican ism, get a Democrat ballot, which you can
do it win primaries and vote for Hillary.
Why? Because he's so pissed off with McCain being the the No,
no, he
thinks Hillary's more beatable. Oh, Okay, gotcha. But more
importantly, he doesn't really care which of the two that it is
I'll give you the theory. He doesn't care which of the two
run as long as this, this, this election stays in abeyance, so
you don't know who's going to win. So they start sniping at
each other to such a point that the Republican will just sneak
in the gut as it were, while these two people bicker because
it's fairly well known that the sooner you get that over with
the better off you are for the general election, well, it's
divide
and conquer, right? Isn't that the basic principle,
essentially. So anyway, so he's doing this operation chaos, and
I was thinking about a couple of things one, none of that
Democrat, my Democratic friends, none of them know that this is
going on. And, and then the ones who do know that it's going are
you all up in arms about it? It's like it's the world's you
know, it's horrible that even though it turns out that rush
limbaugh got the idea from a Democrat who would pull it off
in a small scale someplace years ago. And meanwhile, because
nobody's listening to this guy anyway, so they're completely
clueless. And I always thought the Republicans are wonders
because I listened to like I like to listen to them ball
listen to this other guy Michael Savage was really entertaining.
And then I'll listen to Air America if I get a shot at it. I
listen to John Stewart, I tried to listen to all sides of
everything and you get a you get a pretty well run I just don't
take a bigoted approach was I won't listen to that guy. How
can you let it go? says how can you listen to him? Well, that's
the same people that who can actually say I hate Republicans
or I hate Democrats. I mean, what kind of language is that? I
hate red states. I hate blue states. This is this is our
common language and yeah, it's crap is what it is.
I agree and but anyway, back to Operation cows, I came into
conclusion I was thinking about this yesterday conclusion that
setting up operation chaos and making it you know, waving your
arms a lot about which I'm I was thinking it's probably not
having it's probably having zero effect. I mean, I don't even
think now I think most Republicans wouldn't go through
the trouble of voting for Hillary I'm sure a few do but
it's not enough to really sway the election. But it's enough to
to freak out. You know, it's almost like psych a psych game
and head game on the Democrats that he appears to be doing this
whether he is or not,
but this is he's just latching on to something that already
existed. I mean, I'm reading everywhere. Hillary closet
Republican, you know, isn't he just kind of sneaking in on
something that's already been out there?
Maybe all I know, is it this election is becoming a laugh
riot.
Did you see Obama's speech?
Well, here's the other thing that's interesting about Yeah, I
did. And here's the other thing is interesting about Obamacare
that nothing that Democrats don't get. They have no idea how
much the Republicans are, are experimenting with how to hound
this guy over this Reverend Wright. In fact, if you talk to
most of them, because my son in this was obviously he's what
goes to Evergreen college and he's a college kid, he's not
going to be a Republican. And he he's not even he said, Well,
it's not a big deal blah, blah, blah Yeah, these guys have none
of these people since nobody listens to what these shows have
any idea how much they're just working this in the background?
Of course they
are. It's a it's a perfect opportunity to be met. They're
tweaking all the time.
Yeah, they're constantly tweaking. And I think he's got a
real problem with this this character and especially when
more there's two things I think are gonna come out more about
this right? If it's Obama, and then Hillary, I keep hearing
these stories about how horrible she is as a interpersonal
relationships with the Secret Service. You know, she's
screeches a lot apparently. There's somebody has to have a
tape of this that they're they're sitting on her blower
just
going off and going ballistic. What What's her problem? She
doesn't like the Secret Service, or they won't get her.
She's just apparently bossy and profane. She, you know, she
cusses like a truck driver.
She doesn't look like it at all, John, that's funny.
She, she cusses like a truck driver and is extremely. She's
just mean. And yeah, by that somebody has to have a tape of
this that I just don't believe, you know, of all these stories
are true that somebody good. Somebody you'd like half a dozen
people haven't secretly taped her screaming at them. So that's
the next thing the other Republicans might try. Try that
to shake it up a bit. You know, let's not
think they're gonna save that for the general election, though
if they have it.
Oh, man, no sooner had we agree that your that your theory was
that it would be Clinton with Barack Obama as a VP? Then did
the Clintons actually start to kind of message that pretty
interesting.
Yeah, it's rigged.
I still it may happen that way. You certainly called McCain man.
And by the way, it's not too late to all get behind Ron Paul,
if you're looking at. If you're looking at what's going on with
the Federal Reserve, that's one of the things he wants to bust
up you know, those guys that are taking your money, stealing it
from you printing it and giving it to themselves, those guys?
How do we do that? How do we make the the general public
understand that they're being that they're beings? That's just
people stealing from them?
I think they just assume that's happening. I don't think that
you're going to inform anybody, I think they've always said they
probably think they're being ripped off more than they
actually are.
Well, just in the in this past weekend, three people from my
immediate friends and family circle have contacted me. And
all three of them were in some form of financial crisis. And
it's all directly relatable to high adjustable rate mortgages
on short term, no ability to refinance house prices, house
prices coming down. And none of them by the way, in the United
States, all Europe, you know, it's really happening.
It's amazing to me how the Americans have managed to screw
up the Europeans with this with this scam. Well, I think those
guys had some reason the guy at UBS, the head of the, you know,
one of the big Swiss banks, you know, he's like, they're in
trouble. I mean, how does the Swiss bank make this mistake? I
think they were pretty conservative.
Oh, it's real, it's real easy, because, you know, there's
derivatives trading going on all the time, billions of dollars a
day. And it's all you know, based on three levels deep of
look, I've got this bond from that guy, and it's backed by
that guy's this thing. And so here's my position, and I'll
trade that with you for some for some Swiss francs, and will blow
out some euros and give me some dollars and you got any oil. And
when you know, when one guy starts to unwind in, that whole
process is like a chain. So everyone's involved at it. I
mean, what do you think the UBS is trading with? And with that,
not only trading with Asia, they're trading with the US. So
that's how they're affected?
Will? I find it amusing? Sure. And they had run on some runs on
the banks, I guess, in Britain and elsewhere. We haven't had
that yet.
Now, the run on the bank was Northern Rock. That hasn't
happened since. So that was, was that January, or just what
Northern Rock is doing now? And what people are complaining
about is they're offering these amazing savings account deals,
which is, you know, higher than any competitor can offer in the
marketplace, obviously, because they're safe, right? They're
owned by the government. So they got this 6.5 6.7% interest rate
really,
at this bank again, we could invest in those banks in the
United States. Yes, Northern Rock. There you go. That would
be a good idea. I'm not sure how much longer the dollar is going
to keep sliding at some point. Yes, it's a cycle, even though
it's, you know, caused by various things, but it can go
can go up and down.
It can, but it has to go down a little bit in the next few
months because of all this money that's being printed. It's in
flight. It's just It's obvious. You know, he's like, you can't
just flood the market with more money and not expect the dollar
to go down. So it has to drop a few more points, or basis points
or whatever. Really, I think we could. We could actually see
a $2 Euro.
You mean a two year? Yeah, two? Yeah. $2. Euro crap. Could you
that would be like the pound. Horrible. Yeah. Well, you watch
Well, we'll see. We'll see all kinds of things happen. We
didn't talk about about Fallon, though. About him quitting. He's
from the central command.
Yeah, well, we didn't know.
I think that's interesting. He was the guy in charge he took
over from it, was it. Rob, I forget his name. But he
wasn't he like given a What didn't he find himself in a
situation where he became a figurehead? So you just got sick
of it and quit?
Well, I guess that's one. That's one story. But isn't it
coincidence that he quits one day before the for Spitzer
resignation, the red resigns in the midst of the whole Spitzer
deal?
Yeah. And I think that's great. It's amazing that that can be
you know, I find it hard to believe that that could actually
be manipulated.
But what is the problem by the way, with with the United States
and the United Well, the United Kingdom has a different problem
with it. But in most countries in the world, this is just not
that important. In by the way, I'm pretty sure if if I got
caught, my wife would say at least they were expensive
hookers.
Yeah, no, but you weren't an Attorney General, who was hard
on harsh on crime, and used to you know, be pontificate about
you know, about it. There's a big difference. I think that
some guy if the guy was just like, like a slacker, you know,
and he didn't have all this background, all this baggage of
being a, you know, do gooder a law man, as it were? I don't
think this would have been much, much today would have blown
over. Right.
But I think I'm going one level deep one level deeper. Why is
the actual act of prostitution is such a big deal in the United
States and the United Kingdom?
Because it's against the law? Well, yeah,
but why is it against the law? It's not against the law in
every country in the world, John, you know, wake up call
was not against the law in Nevada either. Well, I don't
know. I think it's, you know, it's just everyone would say
it's just a Puritan background. And, you know, it's just one of
the things you make up to you put these these kinds of systems
together and and you kind of stick with it as best you can.
And then when somebody, you know, takes an opposite approach
where they say, well, it's you know, prostitution is legal
everyplace else. Why can we have it here? It's I don't know. It
just doesn't It doesn't just doesn't work that way.
But it's like hypocritical. I mean, the best porn in the world
comes from America, of course.
I think it's I think, actually most of us stripped out of
Canada to be honest about it. Oh, but all
the women are from America. Dude. They're all hot are all
hot la babes
are all hot. You do the same thing. Are you and you see you
run into a porn site? Yeah,
I think which happens from time to time. Yes,
it happens a lot. And so you look random points. And you look
and you look and you look and you go, but when you look for
it's like most of its this is repetitive. It's kind of
redundant. But the one thing you notice is how many women are
having their picture taken in these situations? I mean, 1000s
and 1000s and 1000s Where are these girls?
And how come they're not mirror? We
never say I don't remember him in high school. I mean, we're
talking me it's like, endless but I
also have John I also want to tell you that having sex casual
sex is also very different than from you and I were when we were
youngsters it's really changed kids have a very different
attitude about it these days
yeah, but did is the attitude include having your picture
taken while you're doing it is some sort of mark of honour I
mean, I don't get it and girls by the way the guys rarely have
their picture taken they have more sense
well there's there's no market for naked guys okay, if there is
but you got to be a particular type of naked guy just regular
guys like us no market for us naked.
Oh, best you they agree with that. But how come you know
there's a lot of fat chicks that are having their picture taken
naked and they're showing off and smiling because there's
a market for it. There's a huge there's a huge market for fries,
J smilin. There's a huge market for that. That's really, really
big. It's you know, there's a couple things going on. One is
easy money, no doubt about it. It's just the easiest money to
make. I mean, I'm just saying that without actually being a
woman and being in that situation. Of course, there's
all kinds of bad stuff that goes on with porn. But also look at
the number of porn stars who have gone on to be, quote
unquote, successful. Media stars. It's a weigh in,
out of 10,000. How many?
Well, it's certainly 10. But it doesn't matter. It's a weigh in.
I mean, over here in the UK page, three girls, you know,
Jordan, one of the most photographed and very successful
now she's a model started just by basically being on page three
with their with their boobs hanging out. You know? Yeah, I
mean, this. So I think part of that, you know, that's an
extended piece of show business. But still, I mean, all it just
so weird. Definitely show business.
I love being a show businessman. There's nothing like being in
the business of entertaining people. When there's a recession
or even a depression happening. That's the best time because
everyone's pissed off angry. And it's so easy to play into that.
Because
I'm sorry, but yeah, people in show business, restaurant
business and writing tend to do well, yeah, they don't tend to
do well, but they tend to get through depressions.
I think I've always done very well, because people are, I
can't, I would love to do a live radio show now, like a live you
know, with people being able to call in because people are
upset. You know, it's great. There's emotions flowing. When
everyone's happy and having a good time and partying. They
don't want to listen to radio. They want us to do a podcast
when they're upset and when they want to have their lives
enlightened. And hear that
people. What do you think people listen to this podcast for? I
think they do it. I think they listen to it in the car while
they're driving to work. They have a lot of dedicated fans.
It's kind of interesting.
Yeah. And the number of dedicated fans is consistent. We
have a good organic growth. I don't know why. People say they
get hooked on it. I think it's just because they're listening
to two guys talk who is eavesdropping? It's a dropping
thing as part of it. I think they learned something. For
instance, if I were to say to you, John, you're the right guy
to ask what the hell is the deal with Tibet? What I mean, what is
going on with Tibet? Do you please explain this to me? This
country? How many people live in this country? In Tibet? Yeah.
300,000
That's a good question. I'd have to look it up on Wikipedia.
Which of course
is the God's honest truth. Why Why what is if Obviously, no one
likes seeing monks getting bashed over the head. That's,
that's okay. I get that. Right. That's messed up. But this is
like a Taiwan situation where China actually annex them. And
then, you know, like Taiwan said, no way. We're our own
little island here. And what
is oh, it has it has a lot to do with the fact that the Dalai
Lama in whatever iteration he's in, got thrown out of the
country essentially by the Chinese and you know, subject to
arrest and I think that's pretty much where it it's this is a
religious thing more than anything that I mean, that's not
going to get diagnosed and I don't want any email from
anybody. Okay. The whole point was hanging over the freeway
Free Tibet, Free Tibet, they're telling me to free to but what
am I supposed to do, but that's my point.
What is going on with Tibet? I mean, Richard Gere hangs out
with the Dalai Lama. I mean, what's going on? But let me just
Google this. What is the trade
deal? The deal
with Tibet? Let's see when we come up with I misspelt the
Okay. Oh, top hit, here we go. answers.yahoo.com. Okay, let's
check it out. What is the deal? Yeah, there's
there's a source may share
this. The question was, this is your internet at work? What is
the deal with Tibet? Did China overthrow them? Or has it always
been a part of China is boycott the Olympics? Tibet is to China
as Taiwan is to China as the first answer. Both are
independent and would rather be left alone.
Yeah, that's not even close to being accurate. Taiwan has
always been a part of China.
Not according to the Taiwanese.
Now, this was for most of the was for most of for a while. I
think before I mean, if you go back far enough, the island I
think was I didn't Well, again, you know, I used to know this
stuff when I used to go back and forth a lot but haven't been to
China or Taiwan for a while, but as far as I know, because again,
I'm gonna get some Yeah, I don't want to get into this because
there's so many people with a political agenda regarding I'm a
little disappointed. Email
me but I'm a little disappointed. Forget the emails.
Okay. So you don't know as the answer. That's okay. I don't
know either. But it's like with this place. Let me just see how
big is it? First of all, it's up really high. 16,000 feet, so no
one wants to live there in the first place. You can't breathe.
There's no air ever referred to as the roof of the I'm looking
at Wikipedia now the roof of the world. It doesn't say how many
people live. I just don't understand it. I mean, it has to
be the I guess they're just trying to It must be a boycott
the Olympics Chinese are bad
so this has to do with the Olympics are trying to be
everybody's trying to embarrass China right now because you know
they they have a bone to pick to have gotten nowhere before and
now they got this Olympics thing and China's banking on it to
prove that they're cool
right but but then why did we agreed I let them have it London
let them have the Olympics lame
the Olympic Committee not me I didn't agree. I wasn't voting.
So I wasn't asked. So it's all about money. The whole Olympics
is all about cash man.
But anyway, give them your email address and so the so the Free
Tibet folks can send you
Yes. Is John at devora.org/blog Ltd Inc. a Delaware corporation,
and your chicken
wiki pedia page is so this John it's like there's more
information on this page. It goes on for like I've been
scrolling for the past two minutes here. What did that have
to do with tell me it's something with oil or something
man that's got it there's got to be something more important than
just turf. I guess there's nothing more important important
that
they just don't like to Chinese.
Here we go. Now there's a couple million 6 million okay. I'm
sorry, 6 million, 6 million. All right. That's not that that's
that's significant. All right. So I don't know. I just thought
you know, what the hell is going on?
No idea. All I know is that they want me to Free Tibet when I
drive under the freeway overpass and I got nothing to do with it.
How can
we help Tibet to be free? What do we do boycott the Olympics is
that it? Don't watch.
Well, you know, the thing that gets me is that this you know,
Tibet is a very spiritual country and they're you know,
they believe in all kinds of different things. And it seems
to me and I wouldn't say this was with with especially with
the meditators out there, if they why don't they just kind of
will it to happen because they have all these you know, these
meditative skills and spiritual connections to the outside
world. Why don't they just build China out of existence? Yeah.
Gee, that's a good point.
I'm just saying you know, they can do this you're gonna get
some rise we have the of the of you know, I drive around we were
driving on Brook has a psychic fair it has I think it was you
know, if everybody so psychic, why would they have to put a
sign up and go
bet on the lotto? You're done. You don't have to do anything.
Psychic fair. Well, did you know I was I always want to go on and
I want to expect everyone to know I was coming you know, and
never get that.
He is seen as this John C. Dvorak from them blog Aidan
Yamal, da. That was a German a psychic fair. I just took you
to. Yeah. Hey, big revelation, man. Big, big, big revelation
what? You couldn't hear it? I could hear it but it's about
Steve Case. And this guy was sound like he would just let out
of the insane inside. He
was he was laughing. He was listening to the conversation
where I said that I thought Steve Case it wasn't a flock of
seagulls. Oh, that is pretty fun. I guess he's not sure it
made made so much sense. Flock of Seagulls. Yeah.
So I have a list that I wrote yesterday morning, because we
wish was do the show yesterday. And I've already forgotten what
these topics are about, but I should read it.
Oh, maybe another John C. Dvorak list everybody. I'll see if I
can decipher it. Here we go. Okay.
Well, this one here. I do remember, wave, auto dish
washing gel,
wave, auto dish washing gel.
Okay, so the number of months back Costco had there's this.
There's this product called wave. And it's a bowl
biodegradable, ultra organic, you know dishwashing gel, as
opposed to electro Saul. And so you use this stuff, this stuff.
Then they were selling it for next to nothing. So I bought a
bunch of it, because it was like three, three of them for $1 or
something. And then they also had that they also had the wave
Clothes, clothes, what washing detergent. So I use the
dishwashing gel, it won't take anything off of a dish.
It's because it's environmentally friendly, twice
as expensive and half as effective as perfectly.
Anything. The clothes wash washing stuff is good. But you
know, what, what do you
what do you what do you use for the dishwashing? Yeah, I'd like
to know dishwashing and then for the clothes dishwashing, first,
well for the dishwashing, I use
electric salt. I tried to use the liquid but because I don't
know what is it what's an electro salt? Is that the brand
name or is that a type of
Yeah, yeah, it's a brand name. There's another name for it.
doesn't make any do any of the good ones. But I think it's
electro solids. The one I like those
little, little pillows that they have now you just put that in
it's like it. Yeah, I
don't like those. Well, I love
those work great.
Yeah, it just seems like a pokey idea anymore. Powder guy. For
people who can't measure, I guess. Now for a dishwashing, it
was years and years ago, I went and gave a speech to some group,
and it was either Colgate Palmolive or Procter and Gamble
people. And I got into a discussion with these guys about
detergents. And the guys made it very clear to me that what
happened with all these environmental laws that passed
it took the phosphates out of if you remember detergents it
because it was making too much weird stuff grow in the water.
Once those were removed, he says that all the you know powdered
detergents first for washing your clothes were useless unless
you bought some from Mexico or someplace where they still left
the phosphates in. And but they found substitutes for all these
these detergents, but none of them could be made into flakes.
That's when the liquid detergent started to show up on the market
more and more and it turns out then to guys with no uncertain
terms, I tell people this too, and no uncertain terms says do
not buy powdered clothes detergents because it's got no
nothing going for it. It's It's It's feeble. But the liquid
stuff is very, you know, it's still as good as it's ever been.
But it's but the reason it is liquid because some of these
chemicals cannot be you know, the detergent was made to get
dry and get flaking too. But the liquid stuff is chemicals that
you can't do that with. So that's why it's
so it wasn't just a marketing exercise. It was actually the
other way around where a client comes in and says we've got to
go to liquid.
Right? No, it was not it was it was done for practical reasons.
But the public generally doesn't know this and they still buy the
powder.
I don't buy powder man. I'm liquid all the way.
Anyway, so that's on that list. So that was just a bitch about
this dishwasher. And then we'll go further down the rest of the
list or top of the list Tang.
Tang as in something you ate or something
to tongue over the over the weekend. How was it? You know, I
hadn't cooked it for about 25 years because I used to cook it
every so often. And I didn't realise how long you have to
cook it.
It's a serious piece of meat. I mean a proper tongue can you
know how many ounces is that?
That's pretty big, but it's like the point I think it was like
two pounds or something like three pounds maybe. But the
thing was, I you know was it just I didn't cook it long I
don't even know the recipe is very because I've tried to
remind myself how I did it before and so I cooked it for an
hour and 15 minutes which is just a joke. How
did you cook it? Did
you boy I boiled tung oil Yeah, okay. Now
but but after the boiling you take it out and what you just
sear it or you just serve it
no no, no you don't have to you just pull off the skin and then
you slice it thin and put some like the various kinds of maybe
sauces on like a tomato sauce or like tomato sauce to be good.
But anyway the so I left it if I put it back in there and cooked
it for another 10 hours. And then it was good but it was too
late you know because you know
dried out by this crop.
So that's my tongue story.
Was it before you before you continue? Was it from one of
your named animals? That does come from the from the big
freezer?
No, you just bought it came from the Chinese. Grinch 99 places
we're all pitching get tongue now it's in a Chinese butcher
off the rack. Disappointed.
That's well I just wanted to get the recipe down I work next time
we order an animal I'm going to make sure we get the tongue and
then I'll cook it right
Was it a good tongue? You sure it wasn't a tongue malfunction?
I was thinking of it that was a possibility but then after
having cooked it another 10 hours I realised it was mean
okay, next on your list of Jolly notes,
which was Obama which we talked about he did get that yeah, and
here's one that's interesting. I wrote this down glassware mess.
Glassware mess.
Like car neck
Yeah, glassware mess. What is I give up glassware mess.
So I'm looking at my my cabinet I realised this when I was
visiting somebody recently and I think there's two types of
personalities in the world. Okay one of them has Colette you know
just has if you open up their cupboard you find that all kinds
of glass I have like you know cups from you know from a
NetSuite, IBM Microsoft that it's just a mess the glassware
is I mean, I do have you know, sets of wine glasses, but
they're mixed in with a bunch of half you know, it was set that's
half broken. I kept the one glass because it was one of my
favourites and you know, so yeah, I gotta gosh, you know,
original Chris Pull from someplace you know, I saw one
piece loved this gets chipped and which are the whole cabinet
I was at somebody's house and I opened their cabinet up to get a
glass and I noticed that they had you know, it's kind of neat.
They had kind of the matching glassware and then there was a
bunch of crap just like mine. And then you go to somebody's
house and you open the cabinet and all the glasses and cups all
aligned all perfectly right match. And there's no odd balls,
there's no screwball ones. There's no commemorative
glasses, there's none from the winery. There's none of the cups
that you get at work. There's nothing but some thing that you
bought and and I'm thinking this is what is the difference? And
is it better to go when I because I hate the fact that I
have this mess of glassware but I can't bring myself to throwing
away these valuable cups.
Well, I think this is probably you
you I get the feeling you have an organised cups all from the
same you all look the same and all the glasses look the same.
You would be severely disappointed or perhaps you'd be
very happy. I don't know we we are exactly the same as you you
open up our cupboard and it's it's the problem will not the
problem is we've gotten lots of beautiful silverware which was a
wedding gift. Crystal you name it. What we do is we use it so
we just put it on the shelf with all the other stuff and dude you
were talking about your you know, I still have a mug from w
i t be FM which is college rid of that college station now you
can't it's indestructible it also won't break. When we moved
to New York, we stayed in the Mayflower hotel for the first I
think six weeks that we were in New York and then we got an
apartment. And we still have glasses from the from the
Mayflower Hotel. Enjoy these these hope these kinds they
bring you in kind of these New York, mid range mid to upper
range hotels that just that indestructible glassware. You
know it's the the one that have the plastic over it's usually a
water glass, they put the plastic over when they bring it
up on the on the little trolley. We must have still five of those
and I know we had 10 or 15
You stole glasses from the hotel. Yeah. And she eats
everything.
She eats glasses. Actually the maid gave it to Patricia she's
like here take all this. I won't tell anyone. We've been living
there for like six, six weeks, you know? But I wonder if that's
if that's just a different type of I bet you people who have
that type of glassware that type of setup for everything all neat
in the cupboard. They have probably other neatness, traits
throughout their home in other spots I would bet.
Well, I'm reminded of a friend of mine who will go nameless who
lives down in Woodside. But there's a but I know a lot of
people that live in woods. So which is one of the roots of
your community. John, your host,
John Doerr would listen Woodside Disney. It's about John Doerr.
There we go. Okay. I
think John Doerr lives in San Francisco to be honest about oh,
no, I think last time I will, he might. But last time I looked, I
know for a fact he lived in San Francisco. Well, let
me go look at my Christmas card from John and the family. I'll
be right back. Just kidding.
So whatever, whatever the case is, they're a dear friend of
mine. And the house and you run into these houses too, which is
just courses like embarr I mean, I'd actually maybe prefer when
I'm going to describe to what I have, which is unsightly mess.
That needs serious you know, I need a dumpster if you're like
an eBay warehouse, essentially. Well, that's just ridiculous.
But I mean, it's just you know, there's I got other things on my
I have other things on my mind, rather than picking up the pen
that's on the floor.
You put empty cartons back into the fridge as well.
You know, I used to bet on anymore. When did you stop doing
that when
you were 30 some like
recycling became in because you have been placed to put
it but isn't that great? You do that and it would automatically
wind up in the trash. You ever noticed that? That's amazing to
me. I love a fridge like that.
So anyway, so I go to this guy's house and I swear to God you are
in the four seasons. The place had four seasons decorations is
professionally decorated. And the professional decorators you
know do the four seasons and then they do people's home.
Yeah, sure. And these the home is like being in the Four
Seasons and it's not the most comfortable place in the world's
nice kitchen. You know you kind of sterile perfect table and eat
something but it's like it's something it's I find it
peculiar
people who do that you mean I've known people I love this in
South Jersey, Patricia and I used to go hang out a lot. There
were a couple of guys there and they were having some minor
success producing some rock bands. You know when jersey was
really South Jersey particularly was really hot with Bon Jovi and
Skid Row and those guys and we go down there and so they were
all near Toms River if you've ever been down there Toms River
area, never okay. So you know you go to their house and so you
know of course they have some shack and that's a studio but
their house and They've got, you know, their mom's living there,
of course, but then there's mom's mom. And then pastor
Frank, father, Frank stops by, you know, the local priest, and
then the Italians as well. So there's always lots of food and
but their interior, they literally went to, I'm thinking,
what's the name of love it love its furniture, and just said,
I'll take the whole thing, including the mirror that you
have up there. And that fake cup plant for the table, I'll take
the whole thing. And they literally put that into the
living room, as it was in the showroom.
This is really, as easy for people, they don't have to think
about it. That makes sense.
Well, whatever the case is, I find it distressing to walk into
the four seasons in someone's home. You know, you just
don't know. Well, you've never been in my home. So we have
elements of both. We have
got the money, you get the money. I think that makes a
difference. That's what doesn't make any difference. No, it
makes all the difference in the world.
In fact, if you if you like contemporary design and
architecture, you don't need any money. You just need like, you
know, some good tricks. Look at look at modern architecture,
man. Have you ever seen these washbasins these they look like
a trough
they've ever seen. When it gets to me, it's not that washbasin
it looks like the trough with the trendier one which is the
bowl that's the shake cannon and the bowl is on it like a piece
of granite and is glued down there and as soon as I look at
those things and even though I'm not a neat freak by any means I
do think they're breaking clean. The bottom run the bottom of
that thing is gonna collect grime and dirt and glue and God
knows what I'm never gonna get it out. Why would you want this?
I don't know it's but it's what everybody wants. It's all I'm
talking about. Yeah, of course I do like a salad bowl on sitting
there in your bathroom where the tongue in my bath looks really
nifty with all that glass and metal though doesn't it?
Yeah if you don't use it
and they splash this this Hotel in London I hate that yeah the
Sanderson and check this out so when we announced our deal with
British Telecom we did it in the Sanderson BT really want to do
it there it's a very hip place but you know it's one of these
like 700 pound a night job is right with salad bowls in the in
the bathroom but not just that it had an egg John there was an
egg about this about twice the size of my head just sitting in
the room in the middle of the room. An egg
just an egg just an egg Yeah, and you know it made a marble
Yes.
Oh well whatever stone it was yeah, you trip over it all the
time and you could barely move the thing but it's like why
Yeah, what is this salad bowls eggs I was supposed to make my
own salad nice was while I'm up here.
So anyway, I have run into those salad bowls that were said so if
you hit them you hit your turn on the faucet you don't know how
powerful is it hits the bowl in such a way comes up and ladders
like soaks you
yep, yep. Yeah, that's you know, Ron has a place like that
in in Miami. That's what is he has a condo which he spent an
enormous amount of time effort and money putting together and
it's all like that you walk in and everything's white or black
or I guess it's granite.
Yeah, take your shoes off. No no, that's another thing I know
people where you have take your shoes off
well you know you do in general in our house everyone takes
their shoes off that's very Dutch you know used to be you
take your wooden shoes off at the front door and then you
either walk on your on your socks or most people have a
whole array of slippers and you just choose you know just choose
a pair that that happens to be laying around or your designated
a pair very much like I guess some Asian countries but that's
I don't know any different than even if I go into someone else's
home I
actually want to take my shoes off because it's very customary
you don't you obviously don't not in your own not in your own
home.
No no effect if you don't have your shoes on you risk damage
because of the pen laying around that you were to have the pan
there's a bunch of power supplies you can kick one of
them in man now.
I got you know dude on my next trip out I want to come to your
casa i want to see your place. Yeah, I want to see your place.
That'd be fun.
My wife wouldn't put up with it. So she knows now that you just
come over to ridicule No,
no, that's not true. And I haven't met your wife either.
Which of course is outrageous. Nor have you seen my home or met
my what? Maybe it's better that way.
Yeah, could be so but I would like to you have a lot who don't
really you have that stove. I do want to visit your place to cook
on that thing. I was wanting to cook on it. Yeah, the Agha?
Yeah, people don't listen in here. You should go check it out
on the internet. Agha, it's a weird stove that has been you'd
have to learn a whole different way of cooking to even use the
thing. Anyway, let's go back to my list.
Yeah, that's not entirely true that you have to learn a whole
new way of cooking to learn how to use the agar.
Okay. I don't have one. So I don't know. But that's what I
read somewhere.
aga.com a ga.com.
Maybe even get a free one by plugging them.
Yeah, that's what I need. Another 2000 pound cast iron
stove in my life. That's what I need. Yes. Back to the
Argentine ants.
Okay, I heard you earlier say you are killing ants. So I have
to think it's related to you have ants in your pants.
There's ants all over the place. The problem with California of
course, is we have ants. And they're allowing the ants that
have taken over California some decades ago are called Argentine
ants. And they're from South America. And they're little
guys, they don't bite you're not a problem. But the weird thing
about him is that cook they're a collective. And this one is the
only ant breed that if I'm an ant in hive in an hole number 45
You know, five blocks from here, and somebody comes in flushes
out the ant hole and kills all the ants except me. I can wander
over and just join a different group. Oh, so
they're they're inter social.
Yeah. And so they don't kill each other like a lot of these
ants will will descend is not from our group, let's kill him.
Which makes the ants even more annoying. Now, how
did they get here? If they're Argentine? Or does that just the
name?
That is correct? No, I think is correct here. The either
somebody brought him up in an ant farm or, or they work their
way up? I mean, are they
destructive? Do they do they eat through stuff? Or they just make
a mess?
No, they did. Yeah, you know, like all ants, they clean up
that faggy you know, if you got a crumb somewhere they find it
and take it with them. Or if there's a drop of oil, you know,
if it's if they're in the oil eating mood to get either in a
sugar eating mood or an oil eating mood depends on the time
of the year. And then they but the problem is is when you run
into you, what you want to do is you want to have them attack
something. So you leave like a chicken bone out or something in
the sink and hope that they go for it. And then you let it
build long enough so you can see where the heck they're coming
in. Then you take a vacuum cleaning, you'll wipe them out
spot and spray it
ah ah handy extermination tips from John C. Dvorak.
It's kind of embarrassing if somebody sees his line of ants,
but but the thing that's interesting is that for some
reason over the last few weeks, I just have random ants to look
at around their scouts. And I can't figure out where they're
coming from. They show up and there's an ad on the counter.
And there he goes. And I smash him and hope maybe another end
of Season smash and takes back the message that the answer
being smashed. Bad Place. Yeah.
Don't want to go hang out. Yeah. Have they moved your pen yet? Or
is that not? The pan? I
picked it up a minute ago? No.
I'm just saying staying on the on the ant story on animals. A
new story on AOL news.aol.com caught my eye. Have you noticed
that there's a lot of really big marinelife coming to the surface
as of late.
Well, there's a lot of dead areas now in the oceans too,
which is really distressing. Well, you read about that?
Well, no, but I am seeing an 11 foot shark. I'm seeing a
gigantic starfish. I'm seeing huge squid and I'm seeing
jellyfish that are like twice the size of a human being. What
is happening
that I know and needs to be looked into.
Well, and also that, you know, there's all these strange
creatures coming up from the depths. It's like it's I gotta
show you this picture. I should send this to you. There's a guy
YZ
major Earth as a life threatening volcanoes about the
blow.
Well, so here's this guy, Carl's Smolinski and he's in Germany
and Abrams Wilda he he bred a 20 pound rabbit John. You should
see this thing guys hold on. It was like a fucking dog
or that was on the internet. No, it's not just the guy holding
that big phoney baloney rabbit in Photoshop. Come on.
That's AOL. Man. This news is true. It can't be false. That
looks real. What's real you can
do that is what Photoshop is good for looks real in the
tie catfish. 646 pounds. I mean, that's that's pretty crazy. 23
pound lobster. Oh, man. What's going on? Are these the just the
granddaddies that are now coming up to the surface because
there's a reason to
the Cheney is because of Cheney.
Definitely the Brotherhood is coming to get him. For real.
What I see Cheney on I saw Cheney on he was Being asked
something it was in his response was so yeah, it was. It was like
it was about the Iraq war wasn't it wasn't like
it was a whole slew of things. It was actually a poorly worded
question but she went on and on this woman asking Cheney about
this that and the other thing is undoubtedly the deaths of
civilians above a lot of a lot of lines. Chain looks at it and
smirks and goes
so. So I don't care what people think. They're not the boss of
me. That's literally the way it sounded.
I know. Oh, my goodness. Guys, that guys, some All right back
to my list.
I'm sorry. There's more. But wait.
But wait, the SEC dummies.
That must have been for your list of items to discuss on
twit. That surely was not for this programme.
Did they make a note? Adam? It's funny. Thank you. Is it time?
1003? No,
three, I've finally got it out. That's right. After 61 minutes.
Got a joke? What are the topics on twit today? Man? Do you know
what they are yet?
And we know I don't even look at the topics until I do the show.
That's why That's why people listen, by the way. I'm
convinced. So I'll give you my analysis. Then we'll get back to
your list of vasectomy. The first of all, you're in you're
an interesting guy you're interesting to listen to. And
you have a lot of experience certainly more than I have in in
a very diverse number of fields. And I think that people hear
that when they listen to twit I certainly always have or cranky
geeks. And they just want to hear more, you know, just kind
of like I'm gonna sit on, you know, Grandpa John's lap, and
I'm gonna listen to some fun, cool stories. And the
kid was a kid, they didn't have rocks,
except in our soup. That's why That's why That's why that's
when you get older. So nothing wrong with it. So what happened
with twit you go to delicious de lica o.us/twit. And that's the
list of news stories that we talk about. And anyone can go
look at the list. You'll need to listen to the show. Delicious
slash slash twit? Yes, slash twit. The United the E dot.
You don't have to do that. I found out you can just do eat
delicious. Delicious co.us. And it works. Oh, that's the hardest
URL to remember.
He's always always bringing it down as a D E. l IDLI cio.us.
That's it. All right. So vasectomy is not interestingly,
not in the twit tags on delicious.
So anyway, I was listening to this comic, Doug Stanhope, who
is I'm gonna make a copy of this and you're off the HBO and give
it to you next time. You're in town. Although, but anyway, he
talks about how he had a vasectomy. He's kind of young
for that, but whatever. But I had this book and it reminded me
of this. I told people this. I can look at a guy and tell if
he's had a vasectomy. Really, but it's face to face and I'm
not talking about you know,
okay, wait, let me just get this straight. Let me just get this
straight. So amongst your many talents, and remember, John has
worked for oil companies. He's a master chef. He's a wine
connoisseur. He's a technology expert. He used to hand deliver
PC magazine to all 30,000 subscribers. Bowler tonight. Not
only that, but you can tell just by looking at a guy's face
whether he's had a vasectomy or not.
Yeah. Okay, now how I got clued into this. Let me back up a
little bit. Oh, please do had this. I had oops, out the back
up too far. So I had this book and I just irked no and that
I've lost this book. Although I think I might be able to find
it. In the one of the library searches that Google and
Microsoft are doing. I think it's still around. It was a book
done in the 20s. And in the 1920s, that book, unhealth in
the 1920s the SEC dummies were used as a way of making people
look more youthful. It was actually a wasn't for birth
control. It was done guy which it was done for the purposes of
like, instead of a facelift, you get a vasectomy and and make you
look younger, and they showed all these pictures in this book.
And, and I looked at these pictures, and I looked at enough
of them. And then I known enough guys who had vasectomy is that I
look at that. And I could see what it does. It makes for some
reason, and it does. You know I talk to people about this what
it says it makes no sense because all it does is this and
that oh, how could it do what you're describing? I'm just
saying in the 20s. The SEC dummies were used as a youth
serum, you will get a vasectomy and they look younger, by a
little bit but in fact they didn't look younger, they look
different they and it makes your face a little puffier and a
little more. It's a little softer. It's kind of hard to
describe it I'm telling you the truth I have seen and I've asked
he actually done this with friends that you know that have
had Vic SEC dummies and just by without combat, I just look at
him. So you've had a vasectomy. Right? And the guys 99% of the
time I'm right. Wow. Well, let
me think how to respond here for a second John
to impossible.
Well, that's, I would certainly buy that I'm thinking there must
be some kind of chemical reaction or balance shift that
takes place
or definitely some to hormonal chance takes place I suppose
that causes this youthful look. But it's not really useful. It's
just It looks to me it's always a it's a kind of a it says I
don't like the look of the of that. That look, it doesn't look
right.
Have you ever considered a vasectomy?
No, no, I never. I might go with the theory that you know what
happens if I'm the last guy on Earth, you know, kind of thing?
Unlikely.
I always I always say to dream, I always say what happens if I
meet Angelina Jolie, baby? She can't we don't want to go to
Africa. I want to give her a real kid.
Apparently doesn't want your kid or anybody else's. From what I
can tell.
Now she's pregnant right now. Are you talking about? Oh, is
she? Yeah, she's pregnant. She's sorry, Angelina.
Yeah. Who does? Listen,
of course, we encounter amongst our, our, our treasure trove of
listeners. You know, I don't think I would ever consider a
vasectomy, but I can consider the headline, you know,
vasectomy the new Botox for guys. I could see that.
Yeah, I gotta dig this record reference up because I keep
bringing up people think I'm just I must have dreamed it. But
it's not true. I this health book was quite interesting, as a
matter of fact, and I'm just sick that I lost it. Well,
there's there's all this crazy stuff from the 20s. Yeah, well,
you know, in the it was in the 1800s, that women would go to
the doctor 18 and 1900s, I would get pronounced saris, probably
early 1900s women would go to the doctor, and the doctor had
all kinds of, let's call them tools that he would use on his
patient. Because basically, what they needed was just one massive
orgasm. And the doctor would would go take care of it. And
like you've seen a lot of popular popular culture
throughout the years and certainly the the Wild West, you
know, the doctor is usually a very, you know, stunning dapper
young man, either that or is a really old guy. But he's usually
a dapper, you know, stunning single guy and all the women in
town, lovin, there's all kinds of stuff that, that I'm sure you
can do to your body that will change how you feel, or how you
look. Getting laid helps, apparently.
Well, so anyway, so that's my vasectomy thing. I just came up
into the I was just thinking about it. And I was noticing
this comic, although Yeah, he actually had just barely had the
look. He's a little young. And so when you're really young, and
you're already look, you already look young. It's not. It's when
people are in their late 50s, or, I guess in their 50s that is
more noticeable. And I've actually run into a bunch of
guys who are older, they had their three kids, and they're
gonna have the vasectomy, because the wife wants I always
think there's something sick about that, by the way that wife
wants a wife wants it. Yeah, that's, that's, again, Jim,
maybe catch your balls off to where she's at it. So
give your fucking wife because out of here.
So the guy has the thing, you know, and I've actually talked
to him. I've talked about why you know, Jake, I've never been
able to talk anybody out of getting one. But whatever people
want to do, it's fine. What difference does it make to me?
Anyway, next on the list. dogs eat scraps.
Dogs. Do you eat scraps? You have a dog?
I've got a bunch of dogs.
Okay, I would say it's probably related to that then they had a
gnarly tongue you made
I had a little Yeah, actually they did. The tongue was I kept
the tongue in the big pot. chopped it up through a bunch of
rice and some pasta and stuff and just cooked it cooked into
the rice filled the took soaked up everything and that the dogs
ended up with it. The dogs eat scraps, the there was a story
about how some there's some dog hotel where they feed dogs three
meals a day. And it's like, you know, one of those. I had a dog
ate my dog one of my dogs had to have an operation. So I took the
dog to the vet and they had to cut up growth off the dog. And I
mentioned this to the vet who was kind of surprised because
they're gonna have all these expensive dog foods. We rarely
feed our dog dog food except when you're really you know, can
it's not it's not good for them too. It's It's too salty.
There's all kinds of crap in there.
Who knows what's in there half of its dog,
dog horse and other stuff. So anyway,
so I had an American Eskimo also known as a Spitz me little white
dog that lived to be 25 A No and the two keys to his So long life
were one scraps and he didn't get a lot of exercise.
You are the ASPCA is dream, my friend. You are the poster child
right there feed your feed your dog scraps and don't walk him
forever. Did he move at all? Did he bark?
I mean, you know he could do what he wanted. But the fact of
the matter is he lived to be 25
our pets last a long time, too. We've got we have one dog left.
Now after that, no more dogs we decided because it's just too
much of a responsibility. You know, for travelling and stuff.
And are your key is now 15 and still alive and kicking. And
it's of course not even a dog really.
Yorkies ago you got another five years no, no,
no, no your keys don't last that long man though like 1213 years
now your keys are very short and cherish. We this is our second
Yorkie if you can believe it. How old are
the other one go?
He went to about I think it was about 11 or 12. We had a cat
that that I had when I was a bachelor he was 24. Wow. Yeah,
we had to. We had to put them down to him. He wouldn't die to
give them two shots. I'm not kidding, his heart wouldn't
stop. It was man I loved his name was dickhead he was he was
fantastic.
Well, you should have stuffed him. You know,
it's funny you say that. We were watching. It was Friday Night
with Jonathan Ross at the big talk show once a week, Friday
evening here. And they had that German guy on In fact, he had a
series which I think was on the states as well, where he he
basically deconstructs the human anatomy, and now he's doing art.
And he's figured out some process where he'll take human
organs. And so he actually, you know, strips the skin off, but
he'll leave the muscle tissue intact. Right, right. It
classifies it or whatever it is all over the place. Yeah. And it
becomes plastic and hard. And it doesn't decay any further. And,
and Patricia sitting there, she's going like, that's
fantastic. That's what you have to do with me
when I die. And then you can put me in the corner is that y'all
have you bent over? The permanent bent over positions?
Yes. Yeah, that's no problem. Just keep me like that. It's
kind of spooky.
It's totally creepy. But you can do that with your animals. Yeah.
Better than stuff. I don't like this. I don't like stuffing.
That doesn't feel right. Yeah. If you ever seen taxidermy it,
just like Lulu kind of creeps me out.
No, no, no. No. Okay, back to the list. But
you still have more on this list.
You want me to stop? Now? A little little?
Let's do an internet. So it's about you. Okay, so don't worry.
Adam, Chris here from Seattle and I have a comment for you.
For the no agenda show. I just can't believe how cavalierly you
and John throw things out and never make mention of any
details. One of which being John owns a deli in Washington State.
What I like to go to that hell yes. But let's go see what a
cranky geek does in his Deli. Oh ABS a frickin Louis. So just
wondering if you could like let us know where that is. We can
patronise John at patronised. What is it?
Okay, John, if you want people to patronise you basically
a spice shop. And it's in Port Angeles, Washington on I think
front or whatever street and I was one of those business cards.
I have a cool business card. But
amongst all your many business cards, John of all your
entrepreneurial endeavours,
it's a cool business card because I gave myself that my
wife runs it, I gave myself the den, she's become a spice nut,
got some wild stuff, we're bringing in stuff from Ethiopia.
Now, we're gonna put up a website that lets people
experiment because some of these spices you obviously you know, I
don't know what they use them for. But I figure that you have
some use. And fusion has never really gone from Africa into
French cuisine. It's usually always you know, let's mix
Japanese with French and let's mix Chinese with Italian. But
nobody's ever thought of going to Ethiopia. So we'd have all
these spices. And by the way, some of the best spice purveyors
in the world are out of London. We have to have the stuff
brought in from England.
Well, hold on a second. John, let me just interrupt you. What
are you now a deli or a spice shop and what is the difference
is deli because it says a sandwich shop, you can buy deli
stuff, but it's essential but a real orientation is toward these
screwball spices from all over the place. And I'm telling you
some of this stuff is and we also have I think one of the
pillars she recently picked up one of the I think one of the
best herbs de provence mixes I've ever had, even in France.
Unbelievably Nice.
So I bring some stuff over next time. I can make a short little
hop to anywhere in London, I can pick it up for you.
Maybe it has to be a wholesale bio and it has to be large
amounts. If you think you're having trouble getting in To the
country now, yeah, come in with a bunch of marjoram and see how
well you do.
I'm telling you, it's for cooking and dude, really, it's
not for smoking. But while we're talking about it, let me give it
a shot. So, okay. All right back to your list.
Okay, son to goo. US think I don't know this song to KU Shan
Tuco Ross, actually,
that would be a wine.
Now it says that knife is just as and I'm not even sure I'm
pronouncing it right. But it's that's crazy looking Japanese
knife has got kind of the bend at the top. It's really flat.
Oh, yeah, that's a competitor to a French chef's knife. And
people were using them all the time now for just general
cooking. And so I was at Ross, which is a discount place. And
they carry a bunch of housewares. And they had these
kinshi Kitchen Aid santoku knives that was actually pretty
nice. And there were $12. So I saw the exact same knife in one
of the actually was in the outlet mall for one of the big
brands. And it was exact same knife, it was discounted to $85.
And so I'm thinking this knife is good. And it's Merengues is
sharp. And so I'm thinking yeah, how much of this redo? What kind
of markup are we dealing with. And it was finally brought home
with a ship. This is another thing it's kind of embarrassing,
and the kids hate it. And my wife is a big fan. But I go to
the dollar cheap I original Connecticut, not the chain of
dollar stores. But there's like the real mom and pop dollar
stores that there's one in El Cerritos, California that is run
by Chinese right out of Taiwan. And it's like everything's $1
Still $1 You can still buy all the products for $1.
So I get so I go in there and there's these, these really big
handles, thick blade steak knives, two of them. And there's
a big old French steak next style two of them for $1.50
apiece. So I said well, this is gonna be my steak knives because
I'm looking for steak knives all the time. So I buy, you know, a
10 of them. So within I don't know, within the last year I go
to this place it was another one is Williams and Sonoma some
place, it wasn't them. But it was one of these kinds of play.
They had the exact same knife from thomassie from China. And
they were like how much there was a set of a set of four for
$24. So what how much of this do you think is going on? Where are
you? I'm dealing with a 50 cent product that they're making
money on?
I think I think it's all around us, man. And
everything you walk across the street and there's the same 50
cent item that they're making money on it 50 cents, selling
for what? Six, five bucks?
Well, probably what happened is all these companies that were
you know, were selling knives, switch their production to China
and obviously didn't lower the prices. You know, it's just just
got cheap, I think. Do they work? Do they snap off? Right
there though
these knives are absolutely outstanding. Oh, you know where
I found a one I found one copy of these of this santoku knife
at Target, which does bring all their stuff, which is the exact
same knife as this kitchen a one I paid 12 bucks for exactly the
same and only it had some brand on it and I'm not gonna remember
which brand it was but it was one of the big boys one of the
German knife companies. And it was like this knife was 80
bucks.
Well, that's what brand does for you. I mean what do you think
about clothing? Just yeah, just because it's free takes your
money. Yeah, well, thank you. Have you seen the branded
clothes kids wear today? You know, Abercrombie and Fitch? Do
you think that's worth $250 that you know the sweater? No, it's
only because it has Abercrombie on it. That's what brand Blazers
I just have it on the list because I felt like it was
something to complain about. Okay, I'm telling you this 50
cent nice I average course now. Cheap tightwad but every time I
bring in unfortunately every time I bring the knife out to
dinner and somebody's there I have to go through the story
which I just
John I shut up but I really understand I really do. I'm like
that with everything when I know the actual price that's that it
cost to get something onto the shelves. It pisses me off to
pay, you know 1,000% premium on it. Absolutely. It's ridiculous.
My wife's that way with the spices by the way. We have a lot
of she brought in a bunch of there's a bunch of bakers up in
his neck of the woods. And so we brought in all these sprinkles,
all these kinds of crazy things people like to put on top of
cupcakes. We bind by the you know, 10 pounds at a pop. And it
turns out that you buy those little bitty jars and like three
bucks. You buy like pounds of this stuff for three bucks. It's
unbelievable. Yeah.
Have you ever tried HOCl sloth? That's the Dutch. What did they
call him? sprinkles or jimmies? Maybe they used to call them as
little chocolate like rat turds. More like mouse turds really?
Yeah, yeah, we haven't actually have those in In Holland,
people in the morning breakfast will consist of a piece of
bread, spread butter on it, and then spread these chocolate
sprinkles over them. And that's breakfast. They might do the
same with cheese or you know, have a couple of different ones.
But that's, yeah, it's and I can get you tonnes of that stuff for
next to nothing. And I want to buy some chocolate jimmies I got
tonnes of it.
You know, the thing that fascinates me about some of this
craziness in that area of the world is they if you have a hot
dog in Denmark, they have this like crunchy, I think it's fried
garlic or something that's in little pieces that you can dump
on the dog. You know, I'm talking about No, I've never
been behind dark Actually, no, you know, well, if you go to a
hotdog stand and CO in Copenhagen, they have, you know,
these hotdog stands all over the place, and they have these
different condiments. And one of them is this kind of, it looks
like Grape Nuts, which is a cereal, but it's not Grape Nuts,
it's pieces, little pieces of what I believe is a dried air
dried garlic. And it's very tasty as crunchy.
Well, I think in general, the concept of what is a hot dog is
understood differently, by by all of the, you know, all
different cultures, you know, even to what the actual dog part
is, is, in fact, in some countries it is dog as far as I
know.
Maybe, but what am I talking about this now we got to look at
this subject because we got to wrap the show up for God's sake.
But since we're on that subject of hot dogs, if anybody goes to
toronto, toronto has some of the best street hot dogs in the
world, maybe I think far superior than New York, maybe
maybe the best anywhere. And generally last time I looked at
least went I haven't been to Toronto for a number of years.
But every time I go there, I was tracked down one of these these
carts and their cars just like in New York, they're all over
the place. Shop CS was the big brand at the time. And they have
a inexpensive dog. And it's pretty, you know, a couple of
dollars or bucket and a half it used to be but now it's probably
whatever, you know, the exchange rate, and it's probably $50. But
anyway, the it's a it's a it's a it's a big dog, and it's it's
served on the same kind of necessities like a sesame or
micromirrors I think of the sesame roll that's got some
yellow colouring it was very rich looking. And so high
quality dog. But the interesting thing is, is that's what got me
into using pepper to have with have their condiment rack. And
one of the things they like to use is pepper rings, which by
the way, are almost impossible to get in the west on the West
Coast since we use jalapenos instead. But these pepper rings
and you just load up like as if it was sauerkraut, you'll load
up with these pepper rings. And it's just a delicious product.
John, that is unAmerican. You need to stop doing that
immediately.
Anyway, that's my hot dog thing. I'm a big fan of the street
vendor.
The best street food I've ever had was in Thailand, I'd have to
say a new up north in Chiang Mai. To some of them. In fact,
you eat everything runs on the street in Thailand, unless
you're a real tourist staying in a hotel. Everyone else just eats
on the street. You know, little table set up gotta gotta go back
there. That was a lot of fun.
It's probably more crowded now.
Not up north. No one goes up north. Although I was really
disappointed. Remember, we were doing I was doing a documentary.
And part of the journey was up to Shanghai and then even higher
Shanghai. And that's where the long neck tribe is you familiar
with this? With this tribe? No, it's a women who have rings
around their neck and their necks are really elongated
because it started early age. I'm sure you've seen this. Yeah,
you've seen pictures. Yeah. And there's all kinds of myths that
if they take the rings off, the next would actually snap and you
know, as a kid. So we're like, we're gonna go visit them,
right? And I'm like, okay, and that's this, you know, up near
the Burmese border. So it's actually kind of that, you know,
a relatively unstable area in general because of the opium
trade. And so we're in Italy, from Shanghai. It is probably
like a five or six hour journey by Volkswagen bus nail on pretty
much a non developed road. And I was like, Wow, man, we're really
going somewhere. You know, we even had a police escort was
going to pick us up somewhere near the border and they were
going to carry on with us and like, you know, this is
someplace that not a lot of people go to and then all of a
sudden we stopped and there's this billboard, not just a sign
but like a billboard and said, long next this way. The big
arrow pointed towards the road. Like okay, I have a feeling is
gonna be a little different than I expected.
That was for beer though.
He did some budlong Next, you know, we bought the domain Name
buds.com for, for case of long necks sigma autographed by
August Bush really has a story for it. Yeah. When we Budweiser
was the first company with our previous company, it was on ramp
still than before it became thing to ideas. And Bob got him
Bob McCall. He called us out of the blue. We didn't even have
the practice yet. We were trying to do something different. And
he said, Hey, and he basically said, would you build a website
for us? And we said, Yeah, hell yeah. And so they wanted
bud.com. And this guy had it. And he was, you know, he was
really like a fan of Budweiser. And so you know, we say, well,
we're your internet guy. So we'll negotiate on on your
behalf. We have some experience. Of course, I went through the
whole mtv.com thing. And until we talked to the guy, and he's
like, Well, if you get me a case, longneck signed by August.
Like you got to deal, buddy. And that was a transaction. Wow,
cool. Yeah. That's a good story. Internet Lord there for you.
All right, signed by August.
I think we should wrap this one up, John.
By the way, that guy should know if he's ever listened to the
show that that was probably worth a million dollars.
I just lost reefer dotnet, which was close to bug.org. But that's
a different story.
I don't think we should wrap it up. I think we're done.
I don't think it's worth a million bucks. I think most
domain names today. Really, really good ones are about
between 15 and $30,000. I think that's what they're
really worth. That's typical. But if you got one I know that
it would there's there's still every so often one sells for a
meal. Yeah, somebody really has to have it.
And strangely enough, we still don't go to search.com. We don't
go to E mail.com. What's the value? You know? What's the
value? art.com
Guys, I know. paid a million for theirs. You know, I had that guy
on my show. Not to just one last anecdote to top you here. So I
had the guy on the show in the late 90s. On when I was doing a
silicon spin. I had the art.com guy on and I have an art.com
hat. Yeah, anyway, he was bragging about spending the
million because at the time, this is how crazy things were in
the late 90s. At the time, it looked like you knew what you
were doing to the venture capital folks when you dropped a
million on your donate domain
or they look good so we're spending it the right way we're
we know we're going after the real value out there.
I always thought that was fascinating.
That was it? Yeah, that didn't talk my long necks man I'm
sorry. No, I didn't you win.
Let's see how long did we do it this? This week? We held out for
oh man, wait too long. Hey, by the way, you can't really enjoy
this programme unless you listen to it's throwback to the 60s
Answer record show. Called yo agenda with
audition. Give these to our audience a plug. Yeah, half
note.
It's important because you should listen to that show John
because people listen so poorly
once in a while. I mean, because once they actually they have
some tips in there they're useful but for the most part
it's some moron from England some other some guy from Poland
who just can barely speak English and by the way, buddy,
I'm Polish so get a clue. Okay. So the point and he thinks I'm
gonna check with because I have a check name. I do some relate.
So he so he hates the checks. And so he all he does is he
cusses a lot worse than you. And it's like the worst show and
it's just boring. The blab they got nothing to do. It's
horrible. Coming to you have listened to it a couple of times
mainly just because I'm amused by the by the vitriol
coming to you from the curry manner in Guilford. I'm Adam
curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak not too pleased in Northern California.
will talk to you again next week. Right here on no agenda.