Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. It's April 25 2010. And time for your
gizmo nation media assassination Episode One Niner. Four.
This is no agenda, being forced
to take a train instead of a plane. And coming to you from
the hilltop Watchtower crackpot command centre and Gitmo nation
west of the People's Republic of Southern California. Yay in the
morning, I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where no news is good news. I'm
John C. Dvorak. Levin Buzzkill. Good Morgan Manaphy joined no
news is good news.
No news is good news now. Sorry.
I was gonna say there's a couple of things we did last week I
wanted to do I
didn't we didn't we promised each other we do something at
the beginning of every show so that people will feel
comfortable with the whole in the morning vibe and so that
they don't just get blown into you know,
we think this is I think this is very comforting. No, no,
no, no, we have to do no agenda Oh, hit it.
necessarily believe that's true. All of a sudden it's gonna be
fantastic and the evidence is gone. We see now my God girl
said it all this time.
Yes, it's time for another Lindsay Lohan moment. So this is
Troy Rutter bringing you all the news about Lindsay? That you
need to know.
Did you see those pictures on Lindsay Lohan?
I put them in the show notes. That's how good they were. Wait
a minute. We're missing information there
Michael Lohan called the cops where they busted into Lindsay's
apartment checking on the welfare of losing sister 16 year
old ally apparently Michael doesn't think that Lindsey is a
good role model. Do you think this prompted a Twitter battle
between her and her father where she says thank God for my mommy
Excellent.
Well, that's sir Jeff Smith doing a jingle that's Troy
runner. He does the Lindsay Lohan moment.
Well, I bet they're taking a cue from our show. That's
unbelievable. I mean, this Lindsay Lohan is just, she's
just an amazing, you know, I feel really bad should wait,
wait, wait, she got into a Twitter battle with her dad on
the you know, like, why don't you just give him a call? A
bite? Hey,
hold on a second. My daughter and I get into Twitter battles
all the time. This is a very typical thing. You don't your
your your daughter doesn't use Twitter, does she?
No. No. She's in the generation that thinks is stupid.
That's right. She's younger, right? 15? Yeah, yeah, it's
Yeah, I guess that generation thinks dumb. You're right.
They don't call each other on the phone either. Just text
messaging Kosta?
You can buy these phones that have text messaging, but don't
actually make calls. That's Have you seen that? It's like, it's
like, no, it doesn't surprise Yes. Like a Blackberry rip off.
And it does internet text messaging, but you can't call.
I'm like, Yeah, that's. That's a great phone. I love it.
So basically, that's essentially an extended pager. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. So I want to discuss a couple of a gaffe I made last
week and also want to mention, you know, kind of incorporate
the nature of our show, but with the gaff. Last week, we went
when we when I mentioned Joy Bay, har and the clip that I
had, I said she was on MSNBC when she's actually on H L. N.
And I was complaining about the fact that they had this huge
crew of people and directors and people on the set. And she made
this comment.
I think it's worth playing the clip again. Yeah, go ahead. It
was so annoying. And you know, I played it for Christina, who of
course grew up in Holland. And for Mickey, and you thought I
had an adverse reaction to it. They were like, right, that's
tricky. You've done this town. A huge favour Mohamed,
hold on a second. There are some extremists threatening that if
we give Mohammed to the celebrities, they're gonna bomb
us.
Now, okay. The Muslim website says we quote we have to warn
Matt Stone and Trey Parker, the creators that what they are
doing is stupid and they will probably end up listen to this
like Theo van gock for airing this show. Theo van Gogh really?
Is this a warning or a thread? Theo van Gogh is the cartoonist
in Amsterdam, I believe, who was who was basically assassinated,
we're doing a cartoon against Muhammad Ali. I would
take it as a threat because of the fact that Theo is,
there you go. And of course, no one says anything. And there's a
whole control room and producers and directors and 3d. Yes, yeah.
No one says, Excuse me because you know what? They are all
idiots,
apparently are all idiots and this is on HLN, which is owned
by CNN, which is actually is even more indicting because I
think they have more people than MSNBC. And so when I said MSNBC
was an error, and I want to mention the people out there
that we do all our own research, and we do make mistakes on the
showcase, because we don't have people shouting in our ear,
although apparently it wouldn't do as much good. And so we don't
have so almost every show we you know, make some mistake, or we
get caught off guard because the show is this is an show that we
do not essentially competition between Adam and myself to who
has some of the best material. And so we don't like you know,
is that what it is? Oh, I
think so. And so it's like last week show we had kind of a clip
show down that actually worked so well. If I if I hadn't
listened to that show, I would have sworn that that whole thing
was rehearsed.
Yeah. Which is why I have almost no clips I felt really bad. I'm
like people will never buy it. Now. We were too slick.
Oh, this is your excuse for being lazy. Lazy. Today,
bringing the clips
to anyway but the fact of the matter is I wanted to correct
the error and point out that you know, it's kind of pathetic what
you get for your money with these shows.
Just one thing about this, this radical Muslim threat now I've
got in my research, headline radical, the quote, radical
Muslim group that threatened South Park creators was founded
and run by Joseph Cohen, a former Israeli radical who used
to live in a settlement in the West Bank. God Yeah, I
questioned it right off the bat. And I said, What is this bowl
crash showed
this guy they interviewed him on some show and he did look the
more like a Jewish character, then he wasn't an Arab, I can
assure you, and also
South Park in 2001, South Park was running images of Muhammad.
Yeah, I know in the Super Best Friends episode. Right? I know
nobody cared then. So So isn't this isn't this just this is
somebody mongering somewhat someone trying to stir up anti
Muslim ism or something like that?
I think so. Now, let me mention one more thing that I was as I
was taking notes. Did you notice that everybody who discussed
this issue never except for us? And I suppose people online
where it's only because you get good news now from blogs?
Nobody? If you recall on CNN on HLN on MSNBC mentioned that that
was Pedobear you notice this?
Of course no one knows that the only people who know that are
sickos like us. Buddy knows pedo you think if you go to joy Bihar
heard of him my son mentioned his ongoing gag on the internet.
Yeah, but joy Beyhadh doesn't know this. But what you're doing
with a TV show on CNN, well, in the chat room, there they are
correcting you yet again. John, you made another gaffe. CNN is
not a news channel. It's entertainment. When will you get
this straight?
And I did on this list. On this list of things. I also put I
don't know why it's got nothing to do with the other two things.
But remember, we got stickers, no agenda stickers.com Get some
stickers, print them out on your printer on some some a really,
you know, sticker material and stick them around town,
especially near toll booths, where people have to slow down
and they have to read the sticker.
So let's talk about today's executive producer and possible
Associate Executive. Do we have some?
We have two executive producers and two, three. So associate
producer we're getting to two three thing happening. Well,
everything was very nice and so done. The top of the list is the
man who goes by the name of gear. Who wired us $700 To
become a knight. He's now a knight so we have to do a
knighthood for him later today. Okay, gear, sir. Gear. So sir
gear and he of course is Paul tea is one of our primary
artists. Dad is old man. Right? Yeah. So he had to keep up with
the kid was he
say, Oh, he's not on the list because he said he didn't pay
palette. He sent it in through,
send it through wire transfer. Oh, cool. And then we have
Joseph Willis from Palm Bay, Florida. And this is how he says
$500 It's half of his tax return. Instead of wasting it I
would treat you guys with some hookers and blow out I also want
to call it my bread. That's about what that's what it cost.
No, it is. I want to call out not that I would know I want to
call up my brother Ryan is a douchebag who is yet but he did
turn me on to the show. He's sort of only a half dude. Show
and then to our Associate Executive producers, you've got
three we've got Ryan's story in only South Australia.
Yeah, we got lots of Australian news today important stuff.
And he doesn't want to mention he says Do not talk about the
stuff below.
But he says I'm a long term douchebag first time donor,
don't talk about the stuff below. Okay? Yeah.
Okay, we'll just pay attention first rule about Andrew Brewer,
a Winston Salem, North Carolina $201. For the deuce club
listener from episode one no longer a douche bag is this I
guess this is a theme today. No longer douche bag from my
favourite state of North Carolina in the morning,
and it's it's the best state in the union. It is
yeah, it's just really a pretty place. And so it's got a good
balance of politics too, which makes it even more interesting.
And great barbecue David costs Ulis, Texas another good place
to enter dollars. Now the deuce club which we start, we were as
a celebration over two of the show, which is coming up, you
can donate directly to the dues club by going to divorce.org/the
number two, or the word Deus and that will be we're gonna send
out a mailing, discussing this. But if you want to jump in
early, that's how you can do and
this will be a private third show was that what we're
planning
to private third show just but it's gonna be you know, tribute
to the show itself and to the producers, what you
say the juicers. Perfect. What you're saying is we actually
haven't figured out the promotion yet.
Or have we? No, we were, yeah, no,
we had a meeting, a meeting about the Deus
Ex. Also, by the way, anyone double nickels on a dime can do
the same thing. Go to divorce.org/two. We're divorced
that org slash Deus.
I've got Papa Bah, I've got a couple of budding PR associates.
First, there's a new site. Now, you know, it was this programme.
I had a long talk with Dave Matthews about this the other
day. And he's like he's really flabbergasted with with like,
can we call this a business model? Or is this just a model?
Well, it's not much of a business.
That's kind of that's the
flabbergasted part. It's like, that's not much of a business.
But it is interesting. We, we don't hold copyrights on
anything. You can copy the show, you can redistribute it, you can
put it on your own stream version, totally. Whatever.
Whatever you want you open source is, I guess one way to
describe it, but also set up as many domains as you can. Of
course, we always appreciate a donation if you make any money
through AdSense or any other way and we have a new one which is I
guess, a dig clone, which is no agenda news dot info. I don't
think we had one of those yet. A data lake site. So I think
that's very cool.
Yeah, that could be fun. That'll help us actually that will help
to show it's not a bad idea. I think it will to another way the
chatroom apparently came up with the idea of calling people a
douche bag. Oh,
okay.
Sir Jeff Smith, I hope you're listening.
We only need it for what we want is he I think what we're seven
what was show numbers this,
this is a one nine or four.
So we get we're what six shows away from the show that we got
like six shows where it's really weeks right before we have to
get up.
He could have one meeting every single week.
We're not having any meetings.
Okay, Maynard, checks back in again, our friend from Down
Under never missing an opportunity to get a plug in for
your show whenever I can. I figured the Australian sceptics
would love your show. So here I am, on this week's show episode
79 of the sceptic zone,
but at the same time, I'm a huge fan of a show that simply
describes it. He hates it but they're basically they go out
and they hit people in the mouth. Metaphorically, that is
the no agenda show with Adam curry and John C. Dvorak. And
what they do in the morning is basically postulate what ifs and
they've got some really crackpot ideas that I love listening to,
for example, the hopper array, is that part of an earthquake
machine? Not being the case, but like enjoying entertaining the
idea with political ramifications would there be if
there was I love the guy. I expect
that not to be the case. Sounds more British and
I expect that not to be the case. However it entertains me I
do like in very
understated style.
And Todd McGreevy gave us two shout shout outs on his show on
Republic broadcasting.org and At the eight minute and 15 second
mark and the 55 minute and 35 second mark, and We highly
appreciate it. So thanks again to our executive producers gear
and Joseph Willis and our Associate Executive producers.
Ryan story Andrew Brewer and David Koch you can put on your
resume will vouch for you, and it'll get you hookers and blow
chicks and maybe a job.
Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth
get ready, everybody. You know what?
No, all right. Cool. We eat for another two days.
Yep. So what do you what's your what's hot on your list?
I would have to say trains not planes is really hot on the
list. There's two things going on.
We have been getting a lot of notes that claim that there's
that we've stumbled onto those. This this is the means to get
the train thing back up.
So of course we have aspects as to things that kind of flow into
each other. Ash mageddon is one. And now there's anger, anger in
the European Union. Anger we need to coordinate all a single
European skies, we can shut it down longer and easier. This is
I mean, there's unified Skies is what we need now in in Europe.
So now now they're really pulling the cloak around
everything.
So will it be mirages that go after the little private planes?
Or would it be Harriers? I mean, who's going to be the Air Force?
Well, the European army of course, they're
gonna do a European I would say within the next five years,
we're gonna have a European army.
The best came from our national treasure actually, John, now
remember, never let a good crisis go to waste. So of
course, when when the air travel is unavailable, and Richard
Branson even coming out now saying this was total bull crap,
we'd lost $75 million. And now he's going to the to the
government saying pay me, which is good for him. Yeah, but
absolutely. Our national treasure ran an interesting
story. And by the way, it's always fun to click on these
from the website to find out who is sponsoring them this week. So
let's have a listen as I fire up the NPR media player, and they
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I'm Steve Inskeep when Europe's planes stopped flying trains
took over. Many stranded Europeans were able to get home
by train 1000s of British travellers made their way to the
main station in Paris for the Eurostar train to London.
Eleanor Beardsley since this report, okay, British tourists
Jane and Clive Tomlinson are making their way up from the
subway station into Paris is Gouden our train terminal it's
nearly the last leg of what has been Who is this German? I can't
tell if she's if she's
problems and I can't
tell if she's southern or if she's French. She sounds like
I won't say
Oh, I'm from their vacation in Rome
Alright, well so we don't have to play the whole report. So
there we know what they're up to. Spot sponsors the show so
boom, we're talking talking about you know, trains I see
this by the way. His is really interesting and I think it's
fantastic to finally find out that they have trains in Europe
it's France high speed rail Dove Dove. Air links. What is it?
What kind of language is that
invid meant Dover.
It says in France high speed rail dove air links between most
major cities out of business. Oh, drove they misspelt it. Oh,
this is interesting. So this is the subtitle on their player in
France high speed rail drove air links between most major cities
out of business long ago. What what yeah, that's literally what
it says. That's bogus. Yeah. rail service benefits from
fright flight cancellations. This is our national training
way, way way. If it drove them out of business one then what
was the problem? I don't know. This is like a disconnect in
logic.
I'm just saying it says it right here. And if misspelt drove it's
dove. Dove. I wonder. I wonder if we refresh when we get a new
commercial? Boy, I'm sorry, underwriting. Oops, did I mess
that up? I didn't mean to support for
or NPR comes from Starbucks, featuring eight different gold
coffees for the next eight weeks that learn more at
starbucks.com/bold or a local Starbucks. Hey, cool.
But they call it whatever you want.
Yeah, bastards. Okay, so instead of giving your money to them,
give them give your money does anybody go on? Okay? So
also, this is actually quite interesting, although it doesn't
have anything to do with trains, per se. But just as a side note,
only two days ago, Iceland finally closed its airport.
These guys were dead. Their airport was just open the next
year.
But the airport is nowhere near that volcano. And then the wind
was going the other way. So they didn't care.
Okay, well, so now it's closed. We had the winds shifted. Yeah.
But then I found a couple of interesting links and only on
aviation websites. So if, you know, we know we've tracked this
from from the beginning of the $8 billion being invested in
Florida, I think another 6 billion in California for high
speed rail, Joe Biden who of course is Mr. Amtrak keeps
talking about it about
a we need to do a pool. Okay, in other words, this is it when it
whatever they do for the California rail, we take the
number and then we guess what is really going to be because it's
not going to be 6 billion I can assure you know, they're gonna
be a lot more than that gonna be like 600 billion by the
commander down there boneheads this is this state is corrupt.
Well, Florida, apparently not much better. But anyway, this is
this is just like when the when we built the original railroads
is like, you know, this is going to be the new economy. I'm not
necessarily against it, but I like air travel, I think it's
efficient. I think it's fast, I think is cheap. The problem, of
course, is they're making it incredibly difficult and
dissatisfying to fly as you go through the humiliation tunnel
known as the TSA checkpoint. But now a couple of other
interesting things are cropping up, besides the fact that you
can't fly when there's no volcano. And even as Richard
Branson says, We fly over volcanoes all the time, every
single day, but Oh, no, oh, no, it's way too dangerous. And we
had to shut them down because the compute computer model said
so two things happened that got no media attention. Of course, I
saw them because I'm an aviator. There's this new landing system
called Waze w a s Wide Area Augmentation System, which is
intended to replace a lot of the replace or enhance or actually
for airports who don't have an Instrument Landing System, which
is a very expensive system to to put in place and to maintain
millions of dollars. This way is supposed to be broadcast through
the GPS system, there's a number of ground stations and it
basically synchronises the accuracy of GPS, so that you can
use it to land in in bad weather conditions, or if you just want
to get a basically an automatic landing or a glide slope. And
this thing has been highly anticipated airports all over
the country have been setting up their their facilities. And what
happens all of a sudden, they lost control of the satellite.
What Yes, on April 3, Intelsat the company that provides the
satellite service to the FAA has two satellites, who will be
managing this Ways system lost control. The satellite will now
drift out of orbit over the next two to four weeks, according to
the FAA. And so, of course, immediately Alaska can't use
Waze. And until they shoot another satellite up into space,
the whole thing is dead. It ain't going to work. And this
was one of the huge promises of the new FAA. And then I get
another report. This one probably more disturbing. The
new computers critical to modernising the US air traffic
control system have run into serious problems and may not be
fully operational by the end of this year, when the current
system is supposed to be replaced. This is a multibillion
dollar, multibillion dollar computer system, and they
apparently can't get it to work. It's the next gen programme that
they've also been hyping and trumping. So I think that
they're just purposely making it all go away make it impossible,
no innovation. Sorry, we can't the computer's got a bug we
can't get make it work. Well take the train.
Interesting, you know, maybe they're trying to get us so I
mean, you're you can control a population a lot better if it's
all done on trains because you want to worry about people
flying out of the country.
Yeah. As much as much easier to stop in between stations, and
then the the Gestapo gets on and asks you for your advice. He
papers, papers, papers, papers. So that was the, that was a main
story. And I'm just tracking that. And I think that, that
they're really trying to put commercial aviation out of
business and, and make it unattractive and and the meme
has already said it's in everybody's head
Hold on a second, there was something that it was a year or
two ago. And I remember reading about this, there was some
spokesman for general aviation, complaining about how they're
trying to push general aviation out of business for for, you
know, for starters, to get people out of these private
planes. So they don't have you know, because it's hard to
control a public population that has private planes. Yeah.
Well, they were doing that until they discovered that it would
also affect them in their private jets, and then like, Oh,
crap, well, let's have none of that. That's, that's why that'll
never really happen. Unless they split up small, like cat, you
know, smaller category aircraft, like single engine pistons. And
they split those off from business jets. But I don't see
that happening very quickly. Now, because they need all these
business jets, they rely on that infrastructure of smaller
airports. So they want to keep those open and available to them
without too much hassle. So I think that's going to be okay.
But it's very, very clear that aviation is being made
incredibly unattractive, and there's terrorists on them
things they could blow up, they could fall out of the sky. I
mean, it's like, you know, everyone today, I'd much rather
have a train crash than an aeroplane crash
ever seen the train crash. So let's say you're in a high speed
train doing 300 miles an hour, let's say or 250. In American
high speed train, we can't seem to really get the speed up
there. And, and the thing slams into something and you're
standing in the aisle. Now the train has stopped and you're
doing personally 250 miles an hour. Like as if you're on a
skateboard doing 250 miles an hour, and you're going to start
flying towards something. And I don't think it's going to be an
open space, you're
going to become an A no agenda, pancake. Yes, definitely. Yeah.
And if you're doing 250 miles an hour and you are in the aisle
and you jump up, you jump off real the treadmill, you actually
move, will the will the train move underneath you?
You know, I think it would by some nano metre, perhaps because
I think it did while you're up in the air, there will be a
change in momentum. Maybe maybe not. I mean, I think physicists
would say no. What I'm describing is bogus. But I also
believe that there is a, for example, the old thing about
gravity. If you drop a feather and a bowling ball in a vacuum,
it will they'll both fall at the exact same speed. How does that
jive with the fact that every item in an object itself has a
gravity? So the bowling ball would have more gravity? Because
it's bigger than the feather? And so it should arrive within
some really miniscule amount of time quicker to the bottom seems
to me, it would be immeasurable. But if shoot me, theoretically,
I don't know. I don't know either.
Here's one other thing and then I'll let you grab it because
this is something that we we laid into quite heavily about
what Dick Morris told Hannity about Janet Reno and President
Clinton. And I'll, I'll just read you the quote, in a meeting
right before the inauguration, Clinton was told by Janet Reno,
according to Dick Morris, if you don't appoint me, I'm going to
tell the truth about Waco. And that forced Clinton's hand in
reappointing her I know that he told me Clinton told me that I
could not reappoint Reno because she would have turned on me over
Waco. And then our friend goes on Fox and Friends and he tells
a different story. John,
who MORRIS Yeah, Morris is full of crap. Yeah. And
Clinton has been implying that movements like the Tea Party are
responsible for motive motivating violence, like what
happened down in Oklahoma City 15 years ago with the bombing
their predict more said that Bill Clinton had his own hand in
that and revealed that the other night on Hannity.
Alright, so do you mind we'll just listen to the clip again,
today is motivation. God knows what's going on in that crazy
head of his but there's some speculation that then he himself
had said that it was the reaction to the Waco takeover.
And Bill Clinton orchestrated that takeover, and in fact, was
so ashamed about what he did in Waco, that he was not going to
look for and point Janet Reno to a second four year term. And she
told him in a meeting right before the inauguration day for
his new term, that if you don't appoint me I'm gonna tell the
truth about Waco and that forced Clinton's hand and reappointing
her. Okay, wow, that's
a bombshell. So did Janet Reno, which, by the way,
I love her sitting there. If I that's the bombshell as I'm
looking into her snatch.
Literally she gets forced Bill Clinton into a reappointment to
the Attorney General Post. Let's ask Fox News contributor again
Dick Morris.
All right. Thank you. You released a bombshell by saying
that actually President Clinton major decision not to be
learned. No bombshell
bombshell bombshell, but you can't help but she's got her
legs crossed. But this is just like the Dick Morris. I don't
care. I'm looking at her.
Yeah, well, that's what they do on Fox.
So using the word bombshell is like a bombshell?
Well, let me Yes, I believe he did I let me
go weasel all of a sudden,
because they said the ad Dude, I got a little present here for
you. You better take that back. Nicky boy,
wish the facts from my conjecture based on the facts.
The facts based upon the conjecture of my facts that I
don't know. It's just facts.
Well, you know, it does explain why Janet Reno, Reno got
reappointed in the first place. And so I believe his original
story, he probably just threw it off because he thought it was
you know, something that failed to tell. And then you're right,
somebody called him and said, Look, buddy, you better pull
that I that thing, or you're going to be in trouble. This
just listen to
one more second here that
the kind of thing that they attack took place on the
anniversary of Waco. And when President Clinton was
contemplating his second term cabinet, he pointed the whole
cabinet but left Attorney General vacant. And he and I
were in extensive discussions about who he might appoint to
become the new attorney general. In fact, we had focused on the
idea that Bill Weld, the governor of Massachusetts might
do that. Hillary and Bill had asked me to check bill out Bill
Weld out is a client of mine, and we have extensive discussion
or
whatever. And he's full of crap. But yeah, that's exactly what
happened. And you know, I think Dick Morris actually meant well
on Hannity by saying, Pay attention, everybody. You know,
there's bad stuff that could happen here. And cantons, I'll
do an interviews. I think I have it somewhere, saying, Well, you
know, this president could get killed and could gotta get
assassinated, you know, and it'll be it'll be one of these
radicals. One of these crazy people, one of these, you
know, I think Obama is aware of this kind of threat from people
like it was not directly a threat from Clinton, although I
think it is. And that's why I think he's on the road
constantly. He's never in Washington.
Well, we're just wanting to talk about Obama, one or Obama. Two.
I think it was Obama one. I think that's the one the main
one, I think Obama two could maybe float around a little
more.
You want to hear this what Clinton otherwise
move? What the one that's got the most grey hair.
Let's listen to what what Clinton is saying. I think this
is bullshit. preroll This is CNN. And by the way, he looks a
lot better than that out. You know, they do clean him up when
he has to do these in studio interviews. Oh, yeah. Makeup
departments. Oh, yeah. Huge. Yeah, they got that spray, spray
paint makeup these days. So no, but listen to the seriousness of
what he's saying. And he's really he's, he's, he's laying
it on pretty heavy. I think it's a setup for some kind of, you
know,
situation where we'll find Easter. Nice. Yeah, well, you're
robbing other difference. Yes, the internet has exploded over
these 15 years. There's a Democratic president. Now you
were done.
By the way, pay attention to the mean, because we'll be talking
about this a lot every president then the other big difference is
there's an African American press.
And an African American president whose father was from
Kenya, who has been, you know, whose mother's second husband
was a Muslim? And so he's reminding
everyone Yeah, just so you don't Hey, he's a black guy. And he's
a Muslim. Thanks, Bill.
The tax on the birtherism. Reminder.
Whose side are you on Bill?
Oh, he's I'll give you one guess.
I didn't think and he's had a lot of threats. And also the
members of Congress have had a lot of threats against them. We
had a lot of threats. I remember when that guy came from Colorado
and opened fire in the White House with an assault weapon. He
sprayed the press room, you remember that some of the
bullets got under pressure in the North Lawn of the White
House. And he was
that was really remember that the North Lawn of the White
House? Yes. I remember. Bill. Yeah. Wills Do you remember
Yama? And that was really devastating. You know, like,
they were so angry at me. And they were mad at me. I was sort
of an apostate and he's an outsider.
Prostate.
What was he? He's an apostate. What's that? That's a non
believer or someone who was once a Muslim, and then he gave up
the faith.
That is white southern Protestants, of which I am one
where the heart and soul of the then right wing movement in
America, the right wing of the Conservative Party. And also
were a lot of the people who were
conservative party.
Yeah, but let Bill talk. He's got a yellow tie on Pay
attention.
So they figured you know, what was matter of me I was a traitor
to my class, sort of
who is class, the elite class
for our President Obama is different and symbolises the
increasing diversity of America. And both of them for
the increasing what diversity.
And it's like a symbol of he symbolises the loss of control
of predictability of certainty of clarity that a lot of people
need for their psychic well being. And so I worry about it.
Look, he's well protected by the Secret Service. They're
terrific. And a president I can tell you I've never met a
president. And look, George W. Bush had some threats against
him, but people who strongly disagree with his policy. Some
Eric Cantor got a threat here.
Who's Eric Kanner?
I should know that he's like, what was this assistant
Assistant Secretary of State or something? Somebody's got
it. Why does he bring him up? That's
I don't know. That's kind of weird.
It's not in charge of maybe. Is it a guy in Georgia?
Eric Cantor? Well, once you play in, I'll look it up. Okay.
The governor of New Jersey has been, at least jokingly
threatened by some of the interest groups in New Jersey,
the Republican governor of New Jersey, but by and large in the
last 50 years, who by and large are well, at least since the
early 70s, where we still had some left wing problems by and
large these admin systematically coming out of the far right. And
okay, here it comes standby. Again, I think that all those
folks have a place in our political debate. We just have
to know where to draw the line. And I and we have enough threats
against the president no threats against the Congress, that we
should be sensitive to it the 50th anniversary of Oklahoma
City. I'm not trying to draw total parallels I'm just saying
we should be aware,
by the way, you are making a total parallel Hold on a second.
Don't do that,
or this. This is a vast echo chamber
this okay. Oh, I played over it. Listen, listen to what he says
here. John,
Oklahoma City. I'm not trying to draw total parallels. I'm just
saying we should be aware of this. This is a vast echo
chamber this internet.
Oh, oh, the internet, the internet. It's a vast chain or
it's a vast echo chamber.
So Aaron Kennett. Eric Cantor is is the Republican whip on the
Congress from Virginia? Hmm, I knew I heard of him. But what
would why is he brought up in the conversation. He's not even
he's not. Okay, whatever I
were him I'd, I'd be on the look. That's like, that could be
a little message from Bill to Eric. All right. Let's just
finish this up. 20 seconds.
We should be aware of this. This is a vast echo chamber, this
internet. And there's lots of folks listen. And as I said,
some are serious. Some are delirious, some are connected,
some are unhinged.
Wow. He's doing he's doing pros. Some are serious. Some were
delirious. He's doing a rap, some various some be delirious
somewhat unhinged. Damned that we got to make that into a wrap.
As I said, some are serious, some are delirious, some are
connected, some are unhinged. And we all of us who have any
responsibility on there, have to exercise that responsibility so
that we're intellectually honest about our political positions.
But we're also intellectually honest about what certain words
might do to people who are less stable.
Ah, what he keeps on going with his certain words about people
who are less stable. This is this is
now there's a couple elements at work here one for and this Eric
Cantor thing now has been completely buffaloed. But the he
is this is kind of a sub Rosa attack on the Tea Party, of
course, because that seems to be like the major concern of
everybody. Especially, you know, the Democrats. I mean, if you've
watched last week's Bill Maher, all he talked about was
teabaggers teabaggers teabaggers. And of course,
nobody says what's a T? What do you got some against the gays I
mean, what you know, the tea bag or teabagger. So you won't even
acknowledge the proper name. You still using an basically an
epithet and, and then he's like freaked about it. And of course,
I believe if anyone's listened to the show more than once or
twice I believe that the things have already been infilled
traded with Angel to provoca tours. Oh yeah, we'll hold up
the crazy signs or yell out weird stuff or act
but this is what I'm saying. This is where it gets kind of
creepy because Clinton is basically saying, and here's the
way I take this if you go into total crackpot mode, which is,
let's face it, that's what I do. He's saying these crazies are
gonna go out and kill somebody and Eric from Virginia, you're
next. Seriously, didn't you catch it that way? Yeah.
And he's Jewish. So I guess. Okay. Oh, perfect. ever make
sense that some air maniac or, or I don't know where they I
can't see him getting a tea party person to do it. But yeah,
of course, it'll be. It'll be CIA or someone you know. That's
who
will really, of course, the what we're just saying who they're
gonna blame it on on the pedo. Bear. With Pete hope.
The pedo Berra will have done it. Dammit. I'm telling you.
Well, while we're on that topic, they have here for clips. I have
a clip that kind of applies to this a little bit.
He is a she?
No, no. Actually, he is a she's a funny story. But we'll save
that for later. Okay. Social Security marriage and
homeownership slam? Oh. Well, there's actually this story is
kind of interesting, because the thing that's there's also
breaking news in this kind of in the same high end is as Arizona
issue.
Oh, with the house vice betta show me your papers, please.
Yeah. Why don't you play my Arizona clip? And then we'll,
we'll jam
on it. Okay,
whatever. And this is this is a nation of immigrants. So it's
going to be difficult for a lot of folks, I think, who have been
here who were born here raised here, to have to suddenly start
thinking about documentation, right?
Well, remember, this is only in Arizona. There's no doubt about
it, that that this whole thing is, is going to set a new
paradigm, at least there and at least until this thing gets
settled down the road.
So you know, critics say that illegal immigrants come to this
country, and they take jobs that would should be going to
Americans. And I think that that's a valid argument.
So that this goes on and on. And that's what's weird about it to
me is that and I think this is happening everywhere. It's
they're not really discussing the issue or why Arizona did
this in the first place. Arizona has a crime wave. It's got
nothing to do with jobs being taken away from Americans. It
has to do with the fact that there's a crime wave that is
unbelievable in Arizona. And then the most recent thing where
some poor of rancher was murdered in his house by some
some drug dealers coming across the border. So this report goes
on, which is on a local news station. This report goes on for
a good 10 minutes with his analyst and the newsreader and
they never want to bring this topic up as well. I don't know
jobs for Americans jobs for Americans are taking our jobs.
They changed the focus of the conversation. So we're not
really addressing the issue are the real reasons that Arizona
got to this point because they weren't weren't going to do this
when it was just a jobs thing. And I find it very distressing
that the that the real kind of the real points are just
completely being ignored. I mean, they're just being glossed
over it seems more
like it's being hijacked as an excuse for the government not
being able to create the jobs promised, promised by the
administration. saying Yeah, well it's the same damn for the
Mexicans, them foreigners taking your jobs. Yeah, we gotta get
them get their papers.
I don't know. I just find it. Something's something screwy.
I find that kind of fun that in the ID three tag for this
Arizona clip. The genre is blues. It's what blues.
every genre is blues. Because this is the one that shows up at
the top. But I'm not going to put an ID three tags that are
that are you know, I'm not going to sit there dicking around
looking for the right tag. And
I forgot to play two important clips for you regarding trains.
I'm so sorry. From given nation East. I just want to lay him on
you real quick. You know, they're doing the the American
style election debates. Yeah, in England. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's,
it's crazy. And I have the video. Now, Alex, one of our
producers have been so nice to send me mp4 versions, because
it's really hard to get a copy of it. Cuz it's way too long to
fit onto YouTube, et cetera. So here's Gordon Brown, first
Gordon Brown, which we do by the economy, what are we going to
do?
I don't think I've been on any more than one plane during the
selection campaign. I've been going around by train. And I
think actually, our high speed rail network will allow people
to get off the roads and also to get off domestic air flights.
And I think that's incredibly important.
Yes, very important. How about you David Cameron, what do you
think about it?
I would say in the last six months, the biggest change
Angell, the last year the biggest change that I've been
able to make is actually coming out very strongly against the
third runway at Heathrow, I think it is wrong. To do that. I
think we should be going for high speed rail instead of
having a high speed rail hub at Heathrow and trying to make sure
that all those flights that people take where you could take
a train, it's possible to do that, I think it'd be a really
big step forward.
All right now now at this point, I have to say, This reeks of a
public relations campaign. Just think, but I want to find out
you know, I won't take much work by the way, I would look into
Siemens, for starters, to find out what agency it is, but it's
got to be one of the monsters it's got to be Hill and Knowlton
are one of these huge international agencies that can
really change public policy would get the pain a lot of
money, but they can do it. Hey, doesn't
Siemens make? Trains? Yeah, Siemens transportation. These
are sponsored the NPR report.
I thought that's why you played it. I didn't.
They showed me a light bulb. I was confused. Apparently.
Siemens transportation.co.uk. Here it is. These guys make
trains. They're sponsoring our national treasure to do a report
about trains. Yeah, hello, Jesus. Oh my god. Sorry. I
didn't mean to take the Lord's name in vain.
All right. Go. Alright. Let's try it. Let's get off topic.
Trains because it's driving me crazy. We have to let's dig into
that. Let's find out who's Yeah, let's campaign. Yeah, who's
gonna
find out who's behind it and we can deconstruct it in such a way
that you'll be totally disgusted. When we're done.
Yes, I will be retching.
So Jason materias, who was the guy who wrote that he wrote a
book called Obama zombies. And he's the guy we played a clip
about him recently. He's the guy who ambushed Franken.
Oh, that's the guy who okay, we called him kind of a minor
douchebag. But I have to say, here he is on C span, slamming
McCain. Baby, he's basically slamming the Obama zombies. But
at the same time, he brings up some interesting points about
how incompetent the GOP is, when it comes to getting the youth
vote. And I just found this very, very interesting
exposition of what's to come and how and one of the reasons I
believe that Obama will have no problem getting reelected.
Last, but yet they still provide his biggest base of support. And
it's unfortunate, but why have Obama zombies is to really show
a behind the scenes look at how team Obama went outreaching to
young people, because I think there's a lot of good things
they did. And also to point out how the GOP has had an awful
Youth Outreach Programme for many years
critical of John McCain in this book.
What did you like about his camp? Oh, I mean,
where do I start? I mean, number one, he wasn't a conservative.
he banked his whole presidency on reaching across the aisle and
playing nicey nice with the left. We can't have that
anymore. But more importantly, when it came to younger voters,
he didn't have bases on college campuses. Barack Obama had more
than 1000 students for Obama chapters. He was always giving
campaign rallies on college campuses. He always had young
people behind him. His internet outreach was absolutely amazing.
John McCain's internet outreach bill. I mean, there's no joke
now. His incident outreach was a game called pork invaders, where
you had to dodge incoming projectiles from pigs, dogs and
successfully and then earmarks would appear on the screen to
let you know how the number of Obama voted for and the graphics
weren't even that good. It looked like Pac Man circa 1980.
That was John McCain's internet outreach to young people. Pork
invaders, Barack Obama, Obama hires the CO creator of Facebook
to run his campaign to run his new media operation. He hires
Emmy award winning producers from CNN to upload videos to
YouTube. It was a complete domination of Digital
Domination. I think there's a lot that GOP can learn from how
to Team Obama reached out to young people, Jason,
Matera with us until about 955. Eastern Republicans your numbers
to
right. Yeah. Okay. I just
thought I would just sort of just a little reminder to people
out there that there's like a level of incompetence on the
Republican side that
that echo chamber man, you got to watch out for that internet
echo chamber? Yeah, that
echo chamber. Of course, you know, Clinton and some of the
Democrats are attacking. You know, that thing they're
concerned about is that there's a lot of right wing blogs.
They'd love to get rid of those. But the fact of the matter is
the internet's benefited the Democrats, much more so than it
has the Republicans.
Well, but they want to clean turn it, John. Yeah, they
cleaned your net. You've
heard about this, right.
I've heard the word but I don't know the bait the basis. Yeah,
the clean internet is. There's this minister of European
Parliament And her name is on a second European Commissioner
Cecilia mouse throne. And she has a plan to introduce a
website blocking system Europe wide. Europe Wide Mind you and
so people are up in arms about this and that there's actually a
pretty funny YouTube video about the clean internet which I'll
put in the show notes. You could also see that no agenda tv.com
doesn't quite work just listening to the to the audio.
But of course, it's all like, well, we have to get rid of
child pornography and, and people who will oppose me. Stuff
like that. So it's been called the clean internet and we will
all love it. We love the clean internet. There's not an echo
chamber anymore. It's funny. Yeah,
so do we have time for some real news before we get to our thank
yous?
Wow, was it gone that fast already? Yeah, of course. And
now
the biggest kick out of this story that was on Nightline
apparently what is the CRT you know Charles Taylor the former
head of Liberia I think yeah. He was involved with the blood
diamonds and and arms trade with Sierra Leone during a coup de
Tari or something some war going on down there that where there's
just a lot of people getting killed. And supposedly during in
the in the late 1997 or so. He had he apparently went to Sierra
Leone they gave him a whole bunch of times, including some
huge rock that you know and cut but just a monster. And he was
on a on the Blue Train with Mandela.
There's no training of sorry. Yeah, I started training again.
That's true. They showed that me show the train. Anyway, he was
on the train with that. It's funny. That's probably part of
the meme. I didn't even think about it. But anyway, they
showed him us with Mandela and a bunch of celebrities including
me a Pharaoh. And that Black Law Naomi Campbell, that black girl,
the woman who throws her cell phone at everyone's head yeah,
she's
crazy. So apparently Taylor met her and of course back then 97
She was gorgeous. And I guess he had a crush on her so he gave
her this huge stone
when Why not as one does
and play the clip in which it gets pretty explanatory. If I
were not
here and behind it all say prosecutors was this Charles
Taylor once the president of Liberia accused of using the
blood diamonds to ferment the violence the diamonds made
possible or continuation of the conflict but they also
wait a minute Liberia and this guy is like American know what
it sounds American
now he when he talks you'll see sound down where he profited
Charles Taylor that's
now on trial in The Hague for crimes against humanity. So most
definitely not guilty. Taylor has angrily denied any right
nothing go I'm sorry. I thought you said
the wrongdoing or knowledge of blood diamonds never happened.
Never supposedly given to him in a mayonnaise. I'm supposed
to be such a scumbag that before bringing me diamonds in nothing
else but but Amir Niger. What? How much more can you demonise
me.
But in a bizarre twist. Prosecutors have alleged that
the fashion model Naomi Campbell can directly tie Taylor to the
blood diamonds. Based on what one of Campbell's famous friends
has told them.
You don't forget when a girlfriend tells you that she
was given a huge diamond in the middle of the night. In her
first interview on the subject. actress Mia Farrell told ABC
News that Campbell revealed to her she had been sent a diamond
by Taylor. It was 1997 in South Africa, Pharaoh and some of her
children and Campbell were the guests of Nelson Mandela trip on
the country's famed Blue Train. Among those present had
Mandela's home that evening was the then Liberian President
Charles Taylor.
Wait a minute, you know, I've always had my doubts about that
Mandela, dude.
So anything to do with this, so, but I bet there is a little
anomaly in this whole story, which I find interesting is that
it'll be revealed. I'll reveal it.
Let's listen for the reveal. It's the big reveal.
It'll be in there. You'll see here
between Mandela and Campbell. Farrell says she heard about the
diamond. The following morning at breakfast,
Naomi Campbell came down and she said during the night, some men
had knocked at her door and it was representatives of President
Charles Taylor. And they had given her a huge Diamond, and
we're like, oh my gosh,
prosecutors say Taylor was in South Africa at the time to buy
weapons for the Sierra Leone rebels with blood diamonds, and
that Mia Farrow's information about Campbell helps tie him to
the purchase. That is
totally incorrect. And indeed, Mr. Taylor, your man awakened
her and presented her with a large rough diamond. Is that
correct? That is totally, totally incorrect. Taylor, that
diamond that you sent to me to Naomi Campbell was one of the
diamonds that you had been given by the junta in Sierra Leone.
Isn't that correct diagnosis.
Prosecutors had hoped that Naomi Campbell would help them and
confirm or deny the allegation about Taylor and the blood
diamond. But they say she refused to cooperate with them.
This is a great report. Why did they put Donna Summer in there
all of a sudden
they're showing Naomi going up and down the wall. You know the
walk
the catwalk and she's crooked from the huge rock in her
pocket.
Recent appearance in New York to raise money for Haiti during
fashion week. We'll have another one of her famed outbursts with
ABC news producer Anna Schecter asked her about the Blood
Diamond allegation
because you received a diamond from Charles Ziva diamond. And
I'm not going to speak about that. Thank you very much. I'm
not here for that. Dinner though, with Charles Taylor. I
had dinner with Nelson Mandela, thank you very much.
bring you a diamond. You know, a diamond in the rough sort of a
large diamond. We're not answering these questions.
Shut up slave.
We've been told that you didn't help the prosecution sort of in
this very important. Thank you so much.
So how do celebrities get away with that? I'm not going to
answer and then just thank you so much. And why did these
reporters go okay.
It was weird. In this particular report, Naomi, all of a sudden
looks over at her publicist. Oh, yeah. And the publicist, or the
evil eye. Yeah. And the publisher says to jump in, and
then Naomi gets up, and then she also slams the camera, which is
coming up next.
She then took a swing at one of our cameras. Told of Campbell's
denial, Farrell said she stands by her version of events.
That's what happened. That's what happened. And there's no
doubt in my mind, and she said she was going to give it to
Nelson Mandela's children's charities.
Oh, okay. And I
thought no more about it.
The director of donor relations for the Nelson Mandela
Children's Fund told ABC News, there was no record, Naomi
Campbell gave the charity a diamond. She did make cash
contributions of $50,000 that year and the year after,
according to the records. The scars of what happened in Sierra
Leone have not healed.
All right, it's good.
You know, Naomi Campbell must have a golden Galapagus.
So now, so here's the here's the two issues that come to things
that come to mind. Naomi Campbell, obviously doesn't want
to deal with this at all, but she doesn't actually deny it.
But the thing that caught my attention is the following. So
me a pharaoh. What kind of a well, first of all, what kind of
a woman or even a curious person is me a pharaoh. When Naomi
counsellors I got this huge diamond last night in the middle
of the night. And she
said, show it to me. Exactly what to me. biatch show me that
rock wife would do
what you would do, you would want to see it.
I want to touch it. I want to smell it. I want to fondle it.
And I want to know what she had to do for it.
And me indeed, that makes no indication that she ever saw it.
She just tells the story, this third party story.
Interesting that there was also at least not reported or not
edited in a question from the journalists that did just see
it. Did you ask to see it?
Yeah, there's another good one. Where's the journalist asking
that simple question, why didn't you asked to see it? She could
have said, well, I did ask to see it. And she didn't want to
show it because she was told not to. Or there could have been an
excuse, but I never heard anything. And I doubt it. I
think this whole thing is just sketchy. But very poorly
reported because of that one. Most important aspect left
completely out. It's just somebody's hearsay. It's
hearsay. It's useless.
By the way, the official no agenda pornstar Bobby Eaton just
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They don't listen to us. It's an echo chamber.
Yeah, who cares? Right. I don't care we got a porn site.
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these are all good books, Obama zombies. What are the other two?
Well, the other one is going to be we're gonna talk a little bit
about Matthew Crawford. So it's kind of a best seller called
shop class as soul class and I have a couple of clips from him.
And I also have some clips from Jack cash Hill, who just
released a book called Pope's and bankers. And it's a it's
very, it's very, he's very entertaining. But the Crawford
guy, shop classes soul classes, it to me was the most
interesting there. He He's like a guy who's a motorcycle repair
guy who's
James.
Well, he's an advocate, we this guy seems a little smarter. He's
an advocate for for different kinds of reforms, namely, again,
the educational issues that we talked about, sporadically, but
this is actually quite good.
I'd like to
just switch to Australia for a moment, get one nation down
under Dire Straits there, John, bad shit coming down. What now?
Ah, well, of course, they forced the swine flu vaccine on
everyone down there. And you know, of course, it was really
important. You've got to give it to kids under five, you need to
protect them and kids are dying. Yeah, they know, I've taught the
vaccinations immediately. Kids are going into convulsions.
They're getting you know, severely ill, I think at least
one died. And this is made by this particular vaccine is made
by CLS and I can't for the life of me find a proper website is
like cls pharma.com I want to know if they've got squalene in
their in their vaccines. But yeah, there's a there's a good
number of links that I've put into the show notes at no agenda
show.com. And of course, we hate this because you know, we've
been saying that this is bad stuff that you don't want to be
dealing with, particularly the vaccines with with squealing and
now they actually have stopped inoculating kids under five big
brouhaha. Thank goodness.
And by the way, isn't it? Isn't this swine flu over? How many
times did you do? Can they be labour that that never happened?
I heard a report that this was actually the mildest flu season
on record.
Yeah, because people got
was really it was. Yeah, but not but it's okay, John. It's okay.
Because now we have the fungus flu.
Well, yeah, the fungus this fungus thing is but they don't
know what to do about this fungus. They got nothing.
Oh, John. Oh, ye. This is so easy. Let me predict it. So
first, let's talk about this potentially deadly strain of
fungus spreading amongst animals and people in the northwestern
United States and the Canadian province of British Columbia.
Yeah, it's BC to caucus Gaudi which I just love that name.
Cryptic caucus got a flu usually only infects and transplants
amongst AIDS patients and people with otherwise compromised
immune systems but this new strain is genetically different
researchers say Does that sound familiar at all to you? Huh? So
how much you want to bet we're gonna have a vaccine we're gonna
have to like Rush and we've got to create this vaccine because
the fungus it's an outbreak and it's expanding from Washington
to Oregon. John, you. You're up there from time The time
yeah
well that's exactly what the symptoms are a cost that could
last for weeks
short with chest pain anyway
up shortness of breath, headache, fever, nighttime
sweats, weight loss and the urge to hit people in the mouth.
At least one thing is good.
So I would say Be on the lookout for immediate call from the
World Health Organisation to create a vaccine for the crypto
caucus
vaccine for fungus. I don't think that's doable.
John, they have a vaccine for smoking. What here it is, it's
back here it is. It's CNN reports. A vaccine repeat a
vaccine.
Hey, by the way talking about CNN reports is one floating
around they do they showed they finally got feet on the ground
or were that Tupolev Polish thing? Landy I have that report
I have that and we don't need to do it but but the thing that
cracks me up is they find pieces of this lane way
everywhere. There's this bits and pieces everywhere. There's
like yeah, like if like an explosion
took place but nobody mentioned it and then this guy does the
report at the end he says they're looking into the
possibility of the pilot error or mechanical failure and he has
a laundry list of things are looking into
explosive play. No, of course not. With the Russian soldiers
are right there with the government is sites like you
will say what we want you to say. You will say everything but
that
not Germans. Right.
A vaccine that could help people stop smoking is showing
promising early clinical trials. researchers announced this week
at a national meeting of addiction specialists boy
there's a meeting I should be at
a dude. I'm a specialist. Things to take up needs to be there.
Yeah.
The vaccine is designed to stimulate the immune system to
generate antibodies that would latch on to nicotine in a
smokers body and prevent it from ever entering the brain. Is this
exactly what Chantix does?
Sounds like Chantix and a needle. Yeah,
exactly. It's called Nick Vax.
Oh, you no this is bad. Nick Vax.
Oh my god. Oh, here it is. 16% were able to stop smoking and
not start again compared with 6% in the placebo group. They are
considered statistically significant results and oh, here
it is and superior or comparable to the testing results of zibin
and Chantix. Yeah, which I did. Someone sent me a note. I
haven't found it yet. Apparently there's a commercial now for a
class action lawsuit against the Chantix who was that AstraZeneca
think makes that?
Yeah. No.
Pfizer, I think it's Pfizer. Yeah. But anyway, the whole
point, of course, is that it can't be a vaccine. It's not
it's not the correct terminology. It's not a vaccine
consistent. The Smoking is not a virus. It's just not but it's
common
Nick van It's okay. This is all part of the changing the words
changing the word the meanings of words. Nudity is porn.
Yeah. And just so you know, in the new health care bill, every
single vaccine has no quote co payment it's all paid for 100%
All that was
a huge moneymaker for the farms. That was the deal. That was the
behind closed door deal that was made. Hell
yeah. And, and stevia is really you remember, we were tracking
the prices of sugar before and we were like, Okay, where is it?
It's gonna happen, where's the new sugar, it's gotta be on the
radar pretty soon. So stevia or Truvia as the brand name goes,
which is not pure stevia, of course, they put some other
stuff in there very hard to find the actual ingredients of Truvia
which is what I think Coca Cola company is going to be using. So
they got me the problem was stevia, which I've used is It's
bitter. It's not going to work.
Well, I'm just seeing the PR campaign,
and it's gonna be it's gonna flop it's gonna be like clear
coke.
Did you see what did you see what time did time wrote an
article saying that you know, and this of course, is a
complete pure stevia article saying that oh, you know, by the
way, Sweet and Low Can Make You Fat. So all these PR people,
yeah, all the sugar substitutes, they can make you fat. So you
need stevia. It's a plant with some other stuff added for your
benefit. So nothing on salt though today. We're still
waiting for the next salt product. It's so obvious. You
know, it's just so obvious how this works and the media and
media just jumps on board with all this crap and reads the
press release.
Well, that's a here's a pro Julie sendMessage just read play
the dog bones clip. Okay,
well the FDA has a bone to pick with some of you dog owners.
It's the same guy who writes Entertainment Tonight as writing
this news report. It's a really funny little
this was handed to him obviously.
This was really funny because they got a bone that big. Ruff
ruff.
Well the FDA has a bone to pick with some of you dog owners out
there the food safety watchdog say that you really should not
feed your dog. Any bones you know, animal bones, they say.
Even large bones like those from a ham or a rose can cause
serious injuries or even death. Believe it or not, bones can
chip or break your dog's teeth, cut tongues or even worse. bone
fragments have been known to puncture the stomach and the
intestines Rockland crap. can be life threatening.
Oh, I've had dogs all my life. I have
had we got tonnes of dogs out. You know it this is what is the
point and why is the FDA suddenly involved in pet care?
Is is this really an FDA reported? You know, is there an
FDA? dog bones? No, you're kidding me?
No. Why is the FDA involved in pet care?
dog owner advice? Here it is FDA issues warning about dogs and
dog bones. Oh my god, well, maybe maybe they're in charge of
it. Maybe the FDA is in charge of animals.
I think they want to be more government takeover. Just
everything, every aspect of our lives. Don't feed your dog bone
says the US Federal Government.
All right. So then we might as well talk about the business
plot part two, because that's what I see happening here. John,
the business plot, of course. Was Was that Roosevelt when that
typifies Yeah, the business plot, remember that the the
infamous business plot to overthrow the American
government? Yeah,
no, that was oh, yeah, that was a business that was part of the
Democrats tried to try to push Roosevelt aside and replace him
with the Smedley.
Right. But it was it was mainly financed, of course, by DuPont.
There's a whole bunch of big boys, JP Morgan Dupont, and all
the big boys. They wanted to essentially overthrow the
government, the government and then put Schmidt smugly smegma
what's his name? Smedley? Smedley Butler medley, but he
blew the whistle. Right, Smedley? Yeah, he's
a good guy. Yeah.
So Smedley blew the whistle. And I think this, of course,
happened in with a 3334.
I think it was 34. Yeah.
I think that they just went back again, and just been planning
for the past 70 years, and then just doing it, they're like,
Okay, now's our chance. Because if you look at you know, because
now now, of course, the president, his new health care
bill, the new the new, the next part that has to be taken over
is, of course, the financial industry. But it's not really
the government regulating the financial industry. It's the
financial industry, regulating the government, and taking over.
And I just want to remind you of the people who are brought into
President Obama's cabinet, the people who are already in there,
and that will maybe shed some light on this Goldman Sachs
thing, which I think we should talk about. Just briefly, do you
have any clips or anything to talk about? No,
I'm totally off to sexting today. Really?
You don't like it? You don't you know, you're not into it?
Because it's pretty big.
Yeah, I just don't have a handle on it yet.
Well, here's the way I see it,
by the way, and I think they're gonna get off scot free. And I
know exactly what the mechanism is.
Okay. Well, we'll get to that in one moment. I'll just Just
briefly, if you look at Larry Summers, Director of the
National Economic Council, Obama's top economic adviser,
last year, $5 million. He got his Managing Director of de Shaw
big hedge fund 2.7 million from Speeches, speeches delivered to
Wall Street, including those that received bailout money. 45
grand from Citigroup, 67 and a half 1000 from JP Morgan Chase.
So we're in the wrong business. We need to hit the road.
Yeah, gold on this problem is I do public speaking and I get
like a normal fee. Yeah, most of these fees when you you know, I
mean, Sarah Palin probably makes legitimate money floating around
giving speeches, but when these guys are getting $2 million a
year and you've never really heard of them, and they
shouldn't do what did they? Those are not really speakers
fees. Those are bribes. Yeah.
So from Goldman Sachs, Larry Summers got $135,000 for a
speech. Nice work if you can get it. Michael Froman deputy
national security adviser for international economic affairs,
his business card is five feet long. Worked for Citi Group, and
got more than $7.4 million from the bank in January of oh eight
And then of course, he entered the Obama administration. This
included a $2.25 million year end bonus. David Axelrod,
Obama's campaign strategist, now senior adviser to the president
was paid 1.5 5 million in 2008. From two consulting firms he
controls agreed to the buyouts that will give them another 3
million over the next five years. So that's a nice little
little payoff there. Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser
Thomas E. Dunnellon. Paid 3.9 million by a Washington law firm
whose clients include Citigroup, Goldman Sachs and private equity
firm Apollo management, another good company to look into Luis
caldera Director of the White House Military Office, quarter
million dollars year from IndyMac. And even Rahm Emanuel
was, was tied up in a multimillion dollar deal on
which he advised along with Goldman Sachs, I think he made
the $8 million from that. So those are just some of the
puppets who are hanging out in the administration. And there's
this awesome article, which I think you should just read it
and then we'll move into to John's theory on Goldman in the
atlantic.com. It's called the quiet coup. And I'll just read
you the first paragraph, the crash has laid bare many
unpleasant truths about the United States, one of the most
alarming so the former chief economist of the IMF is that the
finance industry has effectively captured our government, a state
of affairs that more typically describes emerging markets, and
is at the centre of many emerging market crises. If the
IMF staff could speak freely about the US, it would tell us
what it tells all countries in this situation, recovery will
fail, unless we break the financial oligarchy that is
blocking essential reform. And it's, it's supposed to be like
an eight page article that's really worth reading. And when I
look at the information that is available about this financial
reform, which isn't just another word, I think maybe we should
just call it what it is the next bailout, financial reform. This
is this is going this is like the dagger going right into the
jugular. And I believe that this is pretty much all they need is
well, the RNC I think they already have the guy they did it
differently this time, instead of trying to kick a guy out,
that put the guy in.
Yeah, this is part of the reason that this is going to come to
any sort of fruition is not going to be a big deal. The
thing that's gonna happen is Goldman may lose a few clients
overseas. But their rationale at the end of the day, even though
there's some emails now floating around that are pretty
condemning. But you can always you know, the way we've done you
know, we already have the, the meme out there that these emails
are taken out of context. Oh, yes. So you know, there's so you
got this couple of things going on in the global warming, people
have gotten most of these techniques down to a tee and you
just copy that. But Goldman can rationalise look, yeah, we were
selling these these mortgage backed securities. And sure we
made a tonne of money on the other side of the trade, because
we also were buying
shorting through AIG. Yeah. So
what's wrong with that, you have to balance them and you do have
the legal, it's just legal. And it's like, you have to do it to
protect your investments, if you know what you're doing. The
thing is that they're one of the few people that actually got in
on a seminar given by John Paulson, who was the guy who
found out about the credit default obligations and credit
default swaps, and a little broker a little cars. It was a
it was a it was no, it was a management company. And it was a
little, like a little trading company. It was like a, he was
a, he wasn't a console, he was like a broker. But this is not
related to the other Paulson. And anyway, he had him in his
power to dismiss very, another book that needs to be in the
library, which is the world's I think it's called the world's
greatest trade, or the world's biggest trade or the biggest
trade something like that. Anyway, they listen to this guy
give a lecture and he apparently, Paulson had figured
out that this thing was a big bubble and it was going to be a
mess. And so he started giving seminars about it in New York,
the unfortunate we didn't attend. And the the CEO of
Goldman Sachs went to one of them says, hey, hey, good idea.
He says, I think you got something here but apparently
nobody else in any of the other firms including Lehman and
everyone else, they thought this was crazy. They're just a waste
of money. And the Goldman guys didn't know I think this is
probably a good thing and they did it they then they ended up
coming out smelling like a rose. I think they're gonna have a lot
of trouble proven any wrongdoing by the Goldman folks. And
well, so So here's here's what happened. So immediately, of
course now the SEC investigates Goldman because which is bogus
because I think you're right, John, and we said this on on
Thursday that they didn't do anything illegal. Unscrupulous.
Yeah, their bankers were Do you expect they didn't do anything
illegal? And this wasn't like little mom and pops investing
these are like huge whales investing in you have an account
with Goldman Sachs Do you have a broker over there John I don't
know this is this is like a Goldman guys
out there listening to the show yeah I don't know in a couple by
donating
really so so what is the the Goldman spin machine and now I
understand why Obama omitted immediately comes out and says
we I'm SEC didn't tell me they didn't tell me where they were I
didn't know anything about that they're doing this all on their
on their own initiative. And of course the big news this week
tells us why he distanced he divorced himself from the SEC is
actually an
ABC News exclusive about what goes on behind the scenes of a
powerful federal agency supposed to be policing the financial
system. Is it possible a lot of the time some of them were
watching porn. Here's Jeff Jonathan Karl.
Some high level Securities and Exchange Commission officials
have spent more time viewing pornography than investigating
Ponzi schemes. A new report obtained by ABC News reveals a
staggering obsession with pornography. Viewed for hours at
a time on SEC computers, sites like naughty.com, skank wire
YouPorn and others with names
on TV skank wire write it down. The specifics are
stunning. One senior attorney at SEC headquarters in Washington
spin up to eight hours a day accessing Internet porn. an SEC
accountant attempted to access porn websites 1800 times in a
two week period, she had 600 pornographic images.
Okay, let's stop right there. These numbers don't add up.
I know I heard the numbers and I thought they were pretty bogus.
So
first of all, I if there was a woman out there, and maybe if
Bobby Eaton is still in the chat room. Do you know any woman but
Bobby being of course a porn star? Any woman who watches 600
hours of porn? I want to marry this woman. Where is she? This?
This these women do not exist? And then 8000 hours? What are
you watching? Like two clips a minute?
It doesn't make any sense. Eight the 8000 hours doesn't make the
whole thing has nothing to see here. By the way. I'm surprised
you didn't play that. You know, okay, don't look over here.
Nothing to see. Look at back to hold nothing to see here thing.
I don't know what what the point of it is, or some other
something else going on. And they're trying to distract us.
And they're doing a pretty good job of it destroyed cropped up
everywhere. So it was like a big deal. I guess I got more email
about this story, which by the way, when I get a lot of email,
but one story like this, that is kind of weird, never talked
about it. It's like I generally don't talk about because it's
obviously nothing to see here thing and people are being
suckered into paying attention to it.
And it makes so little sense at this. It's probably like if it
was true. It's probably like some spyware or something. It's
just as hitting these sites and do Oh, yeah.
Like numbers. You're right. The numbers don't add up one of the
things but sometimes you're hitting 1000 sites a day. Why? I
mean, was every site boring? Oh, here's one now. Let me go
another one.
But now let's, let's follow the path. John, let's follow the
path. The financial crisis could have been averted if the SEC had
not been watching porn, so we need to shut down the internet.
There's definitely and Clinton talked about it. And you talked
about the cleaner net, which is the word clean. Yes, this is
part of a strategy of kind of demonising the net as a horrible
place. And, and and a weight and a time waster for people in in
government agencies hurting the public by going on these sites.
This thing? This is so much BS. It's almost hard to believe.
Yeah. And report obtained by ABC News.
And who are these people? Let's bring them out. And Ben, talk to
them in front of a congressional hearing. I want to hear their
story. Me too. And
let's put them names names. I tell you, I think we need to
play both of them at the same time.
I played two at the same time.
So no, I want to see who these people are. This is a bogus
situation. You know, we
got to do what we need to demand that we need to demand to see
these people I want to miss Congress. I want to make sure I
will see that woman who watched 600 hours of porn. I want to see
her. I want to know what I named the profile of this person.
I want to see I like to see what she looks like. Yeah. she wear
glasses she faddish it vanishes skinny she anorexic I
need to know we need to know this is important on her
government computer hard drive. Well, let's listen under this.
This just slays me
I'm in a two
week period. We're in a two week period on
accessing Internet porn. an SEC accountant attempted to access
porn websites 1800 times in a two week period. She had 600
pornographic images on her government computer hard drive.
What?
Now I love porn. I wish I had a collection like that. That's it.
That's more time and
porn sites. Then a senior enforcement officer had a thumb
drive connected to his SEC computer with five videos
depicting hardcore pornography.
What is that? What is her know or what
is the Oh no, they won't tell us? Yeah,
because it's so secretive.
The investigation which was conducted by the SEC internal
watchdog at the request of Senator Chuck Grassley found 31
serious offenders over the past two and a half years 31
This is ball.
Who is this Grassley? Guy?
I'm gonna find out what's his first name?
Again for pornography. The investigation which was
conducted by the SEC internal watchdog at the request of
Senator Chuck Grassley found 31 serious. years 17 of senior SEC
officers with salaries ranging from 100,000 to $222,000 a year
nice money. The SEC would not comment on specific cases, but
says it takes inappropriate use of government resources
seriously and ditch their sex offenders with abuses on a case
by case basis. Most of this began happening in 2008, just as
the financial system was collapsing. Recent case is from
just four weeks ago, many of them are Jonathan Karl ABC News,
Capitol Hill. So tell me about Chuck Grassley. He's got grassy
you've seen this guy a million times. He's all over the place.
He's a senior senator from Iowa. Have any? anything bad to say
about him offhand? He said promises to get a newsletter
blog. This is funny to Grassley blog. asked Chuck
Hey, Chuck, can we see the chick who had 600 porn movies on her
hard drive? That's my question for Chuck. Go to what's the
website? Everyone should be asking that on his website
grassley.senate.gov Gra s s le guy can
you comment on his blog?
I'm looking at right now it's just it's hanging up?
Of course all the no agenda new the no agenda militia are
certain to it as we speak. Yeah, we've
got a Chuck Grassley site and demand to see these people he
voted for TARP. Of course. He knows.
Though, if these guys are doing this, there's no reason that
they have to do they're not juveniles are not 14 year olds
that have to be hidden from the public view. So let's bring them
out into the open. I want to see who these people are. Yeah,
there is nobody that's why they won't do it.
Yeah, it wasn't the President going to name and shame wasn't
that the whole year and shame whatever
happened to name and shame name and shame is a bogus story.
All right, good. I got a good story for you. And UK drivers.
Better stay under the speed limit reports. I think the times
a court or the telegraph, an American company called pips
technology, pi PS has developed a system that uses two cameras
on the ground and one satellite in orbit to catch speeders. The
system is called Speed spike. And it figures out your average
speed between two points captures an image of your
licence plate and reports you to reports if you're going faster
than the law allows. And if you're hoping Great Britain's
notoriously grey weather will save you you're out of luck the
system works even when it's cloudy or dark speed spike ly
will be tested. Yeah, well we test it in two places, the
London Borough of Southwark and along the a 374 between Torpoint
and Anthony in Cornwall What do you think it's in us real?
I think it's doable. I don't know if they're doing it. It
could be a
bluff pips technology, and we'll look into it. That's that's
pretty wild.
Let's play a clip or two that I wanted to get to today. First of
all, I would like to finish the show late with a fairly long
clip from Jack Cashel of popes and bankers guy you But he does
have an interesting little smaller little comment that she
called signed with an ex that I thought was interesting. He's
he's very, he's kind of a laugh, a guy who likes to laugh and
make snide remarks.
Is he a good guy or bad guy? I
think he's a good guy.
We want to listen to this. Yeah, same with X
would be homeowners, get a house, get a house, get a quick
get it no matter how you can get it. Here's a I found this 1992
article from the New York Times in which they're talking about
acorn, which at that time struck them as just as just wonderful
new, rejuvenating organisation that bringing equity to the
housing market. In 1991, they had a two day takeover of the
House Banking Committee, and the newspapers celebrated it. Isn't
that cool? Isn't that neat protest. Remember, when dissent
was patriotic, you know, what was that? Just like a year ago,
wasn't it? And now it's the Senate. The Senate is racist
today. But a year and a half ago was patriotic and 9091. It was
wonderful. You and your buddies come in, you take over the House
banking union for two years, you throw everything around, and you
get on the front page. New York Times is good guys. Because
you're liberating the housing market from the entrenched
racist classes. Now, so New York Times writing about this, and
here's what they say this is 1992 No one who gets a mortgage
ever has to go beyond the Philadelphia a corner office.
It's about Philadelphia. Like this is a good thing. The times
then highlights acorn assisted borrowers who did not speak
English had no credit history, or this one I like best had to
sign x or they're they're celebrating this. This is a
1992. These are the same people who 1015 years later, we're
going to be criticising Wall Street for for getting involved
in his business.
Of course, because it's a takeover. It was all planned
this way. planned. Planned demolition, works worse looks
just like 911.
So I've got the me but he has a long exposition, which I like to
play at the end of the show, if you can remember,
what is the gist cue that marriage in home ownership?
Okay, I'll cue that one up for
a theory about marriage and home ownership that that was
interesting. I'm not sure if it's actually 100% valid, but
I've never heard it before. Okay. And now if we want to if
we still want to play some more stuff,
let me just do a quick magic numbers update because you know,
we believe in them. And because they work, they do work. They
work for people who donate magic numbers. And of course, the
magic number is three. Tim Tillman. Who's a night
by the way, FDR was big into magic numbers when he set the
price of gold at 21 cents. Oh really, is three times seven,
two magic numbers multiply,
listening to no agenda with Sigourney Weaver. You guys
missed a meal in our special little speech. Here it is. The
oceans are 30% more acidic now than before the Industrial
Revolution. If we don't act, they will be 30% more acidic in
90 years. Plankton shells are 30% less strong. So we missed
all those numbers. But the best one
Oh, that's interesting. I didn't catch the numbers at all. How
did we miss that?
The best one is the Sony PlayStation three. Update 3.30
with firmware? 3.30 We'll bring you three D. I mean, doesn't get
any better. These guys, these guys are like hey, man, let's
really clean up. You want your watch this be the most
successful gaming console ever with this release the ps3 3.30
firmware upgrade for 3d games. I mean, they have really layered
it on Haven't they? That's pretty funny. You gotta love it.
You gotta love it. They the x 37 B. Military space plan that
launched from Cape Canaveral, which of course, I don't think
anyone's really covering that.
Ya know, I've seen a lot of stories about it. It's not very
not in depth, but there's plenty of stuff.
Well, yeah, there's stuff online, but I haven't seen any
launch video or or anything like that. And this is all really
it's all really secretive.
Now they make a big deal about the secretiveness. Well, yeah,
it can stay up in the air for 270 days. Unmanned US defence
officials would not say how much the project had cost. Thursday's
launch was more about testing the craft. But now according to
the Times Online, of course, we have to get our national news
from Gitmo nation East. They say that to maybe a secret weapon in
the payload bay?
Well, yes, with all the machine in the sky.
Well listen to this. Remember, we talked about the here with
all the oh, this is nothing to see here. Nothing to see. With
all the focus on the launch of the secret X 37 be another space
launch. By a minotaur for rocket from Vandenberg Air Force Base
in California received less attention. It was carrying the
prototype of a new weapon that can hit any target around the
world in less than an hour. Ah,
well, that's that isn't nothing to see her moment and so they've
they're slipped a
good day. Okay, so the extra what
does it mean hit any target? What does it is it pinpoint
accurate
or literally says at this ended? I'm reading from The Times
Online, the prompt Global Strike. I guess that's what the
secret weapon is called. is designed as the conventional
weapon of the future. Oh, here it is. It could hit Osama bin
Laden's cave
in the mysterious cave
in the Iranian nuclear site, or a North Korean missile with a
huge conventional warhead. It's amazing. Well, we can we can get
out of Afghanistan now. We're gonna we're gonna zap Osama bin
Laden in his cave in his cave. When we look at this. Yeah, new
Minotaur rocket launches April 23. Wow, that was a total
distraction. John. Here it is the Minotaur four booster flying
in a downsize threes. You just discovered
this now on the air live?
Yes. And I hate to say it. So they launch that thing at the
same time they launched the x 37. B.
Wow, wish I know that we're launching something Vandenberg
is often the rockets fly over Northern California. And it's
actually quite a sight to see one of these things in the air
especially when it goes into the when the booster goes off. Or
the second stage goes off. You can you can see it's quite
entertaining.
It's a DARPA project. I wonder what it is?
Well, it's a spirit space weapon.
How many times I have to tell you a gun in space
how many times I have to tell you that this space wars going
on? It's flashes in the middle of the night which
you call accurate from that distance? Will
do they can read your licence plate
then they can Zappos this saying it right there. We can zap Osama
bin Laden. Let me Google this. What do they call it again? They
have the name here. Someone must have sent out a press release.
What was it called? The
left you have to Times Online out of London has a store How
can we didn't hear about any of this at all in the US that I
know of? I don't know. Should have been on CNN she had been
Wolf Blitzer
or joy biard the prompt choice prompt Global Strike let's just
Google this. Popular Mechanics. Oh, those are the PR guys right
here. Mechanics magazine.
Yeah, the no Popular Mechanics is the PR guys for the
government all their secret shit. Yeah, here it is. A
whispered warning of a North Korean nuclear launch or of a
shipment of biotoxins bound for a Hezbollah stronghold in
Lebanon. Karen this is these these guys are creative word
racist through the American intelligence network until it
reaches us strategic Strategic Command Headquarters, the
Pentagon and eventually the White House in the Pacific a
nuclear powered Ohio class submarine surfaces ready for the
President's command to launch when the order comes to sub
shoots a 65 tonne trident to ballistic missile into the sky.
And that's just the setup.
Yeah, what's that got to do with the thing in the space vehicle?
The military is convinced that in the coming years it will need
to act with this kind of speed against threats terrorist
leaders smuggled nuclear or chemical arms. We know how to
strike precisely we know how to strike at long distances says
Kaler whose office is in charge of the Defence department's
global strike mission. What's different now is the sense of
time and then the showing of these diagrams how this thing
works. This this thing up in the sky amazing yeah, mechanics
they're the guys that copy the
science or Popular Mechanics. Popular Mechanics now they
should Popular Science now Popular Mechanics.
Okay, Popular Mechanics are the guys who like oh yes steel can
melt from jet fuel. Look, we have proof. That's that's these
guys. That's why you got to read them. They're the PR agency for
for the government.
Nice. Alright, so I have a clip that we You play now which have
changed the pace. Okay, gay irony.
Should we go straight into it? Or does it
just play it?
Three members of a team from San Francisco's gay softball league
say organisers of the gay softball World Series harassed
them for not being gay enough, three members of the team
happened to be not exclusively gay. And that was enough
organisers of the tournament in Seattle to march them into a
room and cross examine them about their sexual habits and
preferences. The team was disqualified for having too many
non gay members.
Let's hook you up to the gaydar and make sure
there's anybody spine this highly ironic.
I think if you want to play softball at all, you want to be
on the gay softball team. You're gay enough? You know, the
thing is, is that this is the team that won, so they were
immediately under suspicion.
Really, you're kidding me? Like you're not getting they're not
gays on your team. You gotta be kidding me. This is ridiculous.
Totally. What was that? CNN?
No, that was a local news. It's a San Francisco thing like
God, stop. That's crazy. They got disqualified for not being
gay enough. Oh, please. Oh, geez. The President is lying
this weekend.
He was lying last show. But he's
really lying. About his, by the way, his performance on his
weekly address. Really poor performance, dude. Oh, really?
I thought it was getting better.
Oh my god. If you hear that he's like stumbling. He's He's
there's four edits in this one because he had to do pickups
because he clearly sucked. He looks really shaky. He looks
like
they're probably drugging him like they did.
And you know, I'm telling you, it might be something like that,
because he's really not. I mean, it's not good. And he looks he
looks like he's over caffeinated. And just listen to
him about the well, let's listen to us. Listen, let's view it as
media people. I think that would be even more interesting how
poorly he is performing on your your weekly address for April
towards little
more than one year ago that our country faced a potentially
devastating crisis in our auto industry over the course of 2008
By the way, who does this set? They've got like a bush. They
planted on a on a
dentist's they have a little there's a little studio that
just somebody
furnishes its shit. It's really crap. And by the way, they did a
study on it. I don't know, this is the dark haired Obama. This
is not the grey haired Obama. Okay. Yeah.
The industry shed 400,000 jobs in the midst of a financial
crisis and deep recession. Actually, let
me just skip ahead to the bad part. So there's, he goes
through all these edits.
In addition, Chrysler financial is already fully repaid with
interest, the lines it received, that's 45,000 jobs, the
strongest growth in a decade. And Chrysler announced an
operating profit in the first three months of this year. This
is the first time Chrysler has reported a profit since the
beginning of the economic crisis. What's more, the GM
announced that it paid back its loans to taxpayers with interest
fully five years ahead of schedule. It won't be too long
before the stock the Treasury is holding and GM cuz you hear
the stock the Treasury is holding because you know this
then on the next line of the prompter, the guy didn't even
read the script to prepare
the soul. Yeah, yeah, helping to reimburse the American people
for their investment. That was a bad read addition, Chrysler
financial is already fully repaid with interest, the loans
it received to support auto financing. And we're closing the
books on the temporary programme that helped parts suppliers
weather the storm, returning this investment to the Treasury
in full with interest as well. Finally, we're bringing to an
end many of the emergency programmes designed to stabilise
the financial sector, and restart lending so folks could
finance cars and trucks, as well as homes and small business
as well as homes and small business. On Friday,
in fact, the Treasury Department informed Congress that this
financial rescue, which was absolutely necessary to prevent
an even worse economic disaster, how
unconvincing is he? I mean, even MTV would be like, Yeah, let's
burn that. That was a pretty shitty read. Obama,
ah, faxing it in. Yeah,
well ended up costing taxpayers a fraction of what was
originally feared. But listen, this is a direct result of the
careful management of the investments made by the American
people so that we could recoup as many tax dollars as possible
and as real as possible. These steps as well as others we've
taken have meant that millions of people are working today who
might otherwise have lost their jobs. But these steps were never
meant to be permanent. As I've said many times, I did not run
for president to get into the auto business or The banking
business as essential as was that we got in, I'm glad to see
that we're getting out at the same time, because we've come a
long way when
someone's not scrolling steps
were never meant to be permanent. As I've said many
times, I did not run for president to get into the auto
business, or the banking business as essential as was
that we got in. I'm glad to see that we're getting out. At the
same time, even as we've come a long way, we still have a ways
to go. The auto industry is more stable today than the economy is
on a better footing. But people are still hurting. I hear from
them just about every day and letters I read, and in the towns
and cities that I visit.
I don't know why you get such a kick out of this. I just find it
just to be boring.
I just because he's like really can't Why if you're if this
President if he could actually stand there. And if he like said
something from his heart that he meant he will be great. But now
it's really showing and the lie. The lie is that GM paid back
their loans. He's lying, because GM paid back their loans with an
escrow account with the Treasury with TARP money. So basically
they repaid TARP money with TARP money. Did you know this?
No. Yeah. So there was this whole thing was fishy, though,
when he said when they first said it happened, let me read to
you have been making tonnes of money. I mean, how could they
replay what what was the point of repaying back the loan?
To make sure the President can go read something he needs some
copy for the prompter, but here from the 8k filing from GM a
filing on for with the SEC. Of the 42 point 6 billion in cash
and marketable securities available to General Motors as
of September 30 17 4 billion came from an escrow account with
Treasury 6.7 billion of the escrow account available to GM
was Alec allocable. To the repayment of loans to the
Treasury. Is they saying it right there in their filing?
For they have to say in the filing that a case UK you have
to be pretty honest,
of course, but then the President gets up there, they
paid back their loans. Yeah, with another loan.
Why? Big letters, especially if it's not alive, but it's
basically a lie? Well, it's a misdirection.
It's the Ministry of Truth at work. All right. You got another
clip something funny.
Funny, yeah, he's gay. irony was the funniest. He is a chic Come
on, that's got to be funny is is she is not that funny. It's
about that creep that claim to have shot or shot or killed Rene
Ramsey, that little work. And he's now had a sex change. And
he's hanging out in a battered women's shelter in Seattle,
or they don't need to play the clip. That's funny enough. It's
just
ridiculous.
I do want to give props to the Pirate Party. This is something
that seems to be spreading. They now have the Pirata party in the
Netherlands. And this is kind of like a new Tea Party, only a
global one. And they're not connected, as far as I can tell.
But they're just calling themselves The Pirate Party. And
they're actually getting votes, and they're getting seats in
Parliament's, you know, one or two here or there. But it's, it
seems to be for real.
Yeah, they Yeah. I haven't kind of following it. I kind of like
it. You know, it gives these guys something to do. All right,
you want to play a long clip, and we can finish the show with
this? Yeah, sure. This is a this is the guy who wrote the book
shop class as SoulCraft. I found the entire he was interviewed on
C span. And I found this and the other clip that I have on here,
which is creepy management comments, too, to be extremely
disturbing. And I don't know if it's just playing you'll see
what I'm talking about.
Work and we've developed a kind of educational monoculture, I
think where just about every kid gets, you know, household off to
college and then on to a certain track, we end up working in a
cubicle. And I think the truth is that some people, including
some who are plenty smart, would rather be learning to build
things or fix things and I think we should honour that.
What do you think when you hear the phrase, knowledge based
society or information age?
You know, it's partly hype. I think we've had this idea that I
think arose in the 90s that somehow we're gonna be gliding
around in a pure information economy. And accordingly, shop
classes were pretty widely dismantled by And then it is to
make room for computer classes. I first became aware of this
issue, when I realised that there was a glut of shop
equipment on eBay. So milling machines, table saws, metal
lathes. And I guess the reason it was disturbing to see this
stuff sitting in warehouses was that the disappearance of those
tools from our common education, I think, is the first step
toward a wider ignorance of things, how they're made, and
how to repair them. And parallel to that, there is in fact, a
kind of design philosophy that's emerged, where the point seems
to be to hide the works. So for example, if you lift the hood,
on some cars now, there's essentially another hood under
the hood. And I'm not sure what the thinking is maybe that the
sight of an alternator would offend us somehow. So it's
become harder to get a handle on your own stuff. And
that's very interesting.
It gets a gets more interesting, but let me since you stopped,
let me mention something. When I was a kid, we had shop class,
work class, we had metal working class, there was auto shop,
there was metal shop, there was woodshop, I took in your hand,
even if you're a college prep kid, you had to take one of
these things, I took woodshop and you know, made a cutting
board or something like that, and a bento box. But the point
was, is that there was a lot of kids, they got most of the way
they kind of went in that direction. And then you know,
they became mechanics, or plumbers or whatever they
became, because they weren't interested in going to college.
Why should everyone go to college? Some people don't want
to go to college, but they push now they push everybody to go to
college, take some AP, you know, get into the best school you can
and then what do you do? Like he says, you work in a cubicle, but
I didn't realise it until he mentioned it. But now I think
about it, they have dismantled all these shop classes. So no
schools have many more. And they also there is no dropping PE so
you have a bunch of fat kids, kids on dinos, they don't have
any place to no music, no me and no music and no art. Yeah, and
another one that disappeared first, which I think began the
whole process was was home EQ in the 80s or 90s. Home Economics,
which was actually was requirement for women or girls
who were in high school. They liked it or not. Now we have an
entire generation, no offence to those who were insulted by home
EQ. But we have an entire generation of women who can't
boil an egg.
You know, John, it's all part of the plan. Same with me. Now, you
can you can fix your car, you need to shout of sleeve.
So he brings it back together. And in a very kind of even more
depressing way. As he wraps up his little little spiel here,
you might as well play it from here
be self reliant, because of certain changes in the material
culture. Some high end cars now don't even have a dipstick, so
you couldn't check your oil level if you wanted to. And I
know that I'm not the only person who's a little creeped
out by this. I mean, with some cards, if your oil level gets
low, you're sent an email from someplace. Now, I mean, to go
down that thread a little bit. It used to be that in addition
to a dipstick, you had something called an idiot light. And it
was called an idiot light for a reason. Right? We had a harsh
judgement of anyone who was so uninvolved in their own car that
they let it get to the point that the latest coming up. But
there's some weird cultural logic, whereby idiocy that is a
lack of involvement, gets recast as something desirable, is an
indication of technological progress. And of course, it is a
kind of progress when you no longer have to mess around with
dipsticks and dirty rags. But I also want to notice that there
is a kind of moral education that is casted in material
culture can go in various directions. So the way things
are going currently, it often feels like the modern
personality is getting reformed on the basis of passivity and
dependence. There's fewer occasions to be directly
responsible for your own physical environment. And with
that, I think comes less expectation of responsibility.
Yeah,
makes good point. Yeah, we forget, John Are we are we
stupid slaves or what?
Well, it's a good time to do it. We could do it.
Let's do it now. Okay,
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And that's part of our legacy that we've got to hit. Once we
understand ourselves better. We could shock this, I think, oh,
come up in 1969 Richard Nixon was elected president January's
inaugurated in 1969. January 20, the homeownership rate in 1969
is 65%. It's been steadily increasing from if 1945. One was
about 45%, up, up, up, up up, everyone believes, and I believe
we probably all believe that homeownership is a good thing.
And the presidents have been pushing it ever since. Ever
since Hoover really started as the Secretary of Commerce. FDR
did, Truman did Eisenhower did VA loans, FHA loans, etc.
65% 1969, something else happens in 1969. And then his California
passes. And some of you were there probably, for the first
time, no fault divorce. And California celebrated that by
going out in getting divorced in record numbers, and 1970. There
were more divorces in California, than there were
marriages in 1960. Now, in the middle of the country, if you
get divorced, you will amend it. And California you celebrate it,
it becomes part of the culture. Hollywood had been doing this
forever. And they had long since lost the moral capability of
telling people that marriage is good. They had long forgotten
what Jesus had told them, you know, 2000 years before that,
let no man tear asunder what God has joined together. In 1980,
the divorce rate in California for some reason they thought no
fault divorce would solve the divorce problem, like what
caused the decline. But then, in 1980, how many people got
divorced in California in one year 276,000 People in 1980
record year well as record year, as far as we know, because they
solve the problem of divorce records by stop keeping records,
they stopped getting divorced, because they're so embarrassed,
vital. And virtually every state in America had also had adopted
the California model. So now no fault divorce became a
nationwide craze. And in the 70s and 80s people rushed out and
indulged. I mean a lot of people I know there's a lot of people
who have tragedies and sometimes it's inevitable or, or you know,
in consequence of life, but in California became a ritual a
rite of passage. So marriage became a just something you sort
of entered into for a while and then moved on. And there was so
many other distractions there that it became like a national
phenomenon. Now, this is happening and no one's paying it
to tension to its consequences on the economy. I mean, it's
really shocking how little attention, people pay to the
effect of divorce, not only divorce, but single parenthood,
because people were when it culture lost, loses its faith in
marriage, and no longer has the will, or the ability to tell the
underclass and marriage is good. And we began to see just
incredible spikes in single parenthood, especially among
minority cultures, especially black culture where and went
from something like 15% and 1950 to 75% by 1980, just
astonishing. So what happens in 1993, we jump ahead, Bill
Clinton has inaugurated President the homeownership rate
in 1993. After you know, 24, pretty prosperous years,
especially the Reagan years and the Bush years. I mean, there
was a good steady growth of the economy, more jobs, more money,
standard living was much higher, and 1993, Bill Clinton's
inauguration, and the homeownership rate is lower than
it was when Richard Nixon was inaugurated 24 years earlier.
And the Clinton administration looks around and like all
presidents, they want to put people in homes. Clinton is a
number cruncher from the word go. I mean, he wants to see the
numbers. It's the economy, stupid. That's how he got
elected. He wants to put people in homes, he wants to create
jobs. Those were the days Weren't they? But when they look
at the numbers, they say, Why has the homeownership rate gone
down, and they refuse to look at the real reason. And that is
that the family had crumbled underneath the homeownership
rates. We didn't have, you know, Ozzie and Harriet living in
houses anymore. You know, we had, you know, the Crips living
in his house, I don't know who was living in his house, people
were buying homes, owning homes, who had no right to belong in
homes, who cannot afford who are one broken refrigerator away
from the faulting. And these are the people who were who are
moving into the homeownership market. And you look at the
numbers, it's inevitable. A single parent, I hope makes 20%
of the income of a married couple, a divorced mother makes
40% of the interest income of a married couple. The
homeownership rate in 1993, for married couples was 85%. There
was no problem there. This is just about Max down. If we had
been a nation of married couples moving forward, there would have
been no economic crisis, there would have been no subprime
crisis, none of that would have happened. But instead, the
homeownership rate for single parents was less than 50%. That
was pulling the whole number down. And instead of saying,
Gosh, what could What could cause this? Why don't we work on
fortifying marriages? Why don't we work on keeping couples
together? Why don't we work on giving couples who, who've
worked hard, you know, opportunity to buy a home and
said, we just want to push the numbers up. And they looked
around, they said, Who can we blame. And the Federal Reserve
did a study in 1991 that provided all the ammunition the
Clinton administration needed. What they did is they studied
the flow rates. This is for, I believe, for an FHA loans, the
rate of approval if you were looking for government
assistance. And for white families that came in, were
getting loans at 77%. For black families that came in, were
getting loans at 61%. So they immediately looked at the
numbers and said, well, the only reason that the homeownership
rate isn't growing is because of racism, what else could it
possibly be? They didn't look at the credit histories that people
were being accepted or rejected. They didn't look at the family
structure there was underlying those differences, because
that's where the difference really was. It wasn't in race it
was it was in family structure. And you see the headlines in
places like USA Today. Not all homeowners are created equal or
even Wall Street Journal. You know, it looks matters more what
you look like when you apply for a loan than what your credit is
nonsense. But that's because banks have no interest in
turning people down who are gonna repay the loans, but they
have every interest in the world and turning people down who
don't have to see seas