It's dangerous to fly. It's dangerous to fly. Tell everybody
to shut down. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 2010 times your gizmo
nation media assassination, episode one nine or two.
This is no agenda, tracing the roots
of ash mageddon and coming to you from the hilltop Watchtower
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People's Republic of Southern California. Yay, in the morning,
I'm Adam curry,
and from the northern heights of Silicon Valley north, I'm John
C. Dvorak. In the morning, John, in the morning to you. And in
the morning to everyone listening.
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So, wow. Where do we start Ash mageddon?
I don't know. You know, Ash mageddon is an interesting story
from only from the I think from the financial perspective. And
the fact that people that were stuck in France were also stuck
with that with a railroad engineer train strike, which I
thought was the irony of the whole thing. It is
because I think that's actually what it's all about. I think
this whole thing is about trains.
Yeah, well, you mean the blue of the volcano, so the train
strike.
You know, whether they blew the volcano or not is is neither
here nor there. But the way it's being used, as we know, even
Rahm Emanuel says, Never let a good crisis go to waste. I think
that there's actual bullcrap involved here to fear to give
people more fear, more shock about aviation, how unreliable
it is, and how horrible it is. And we already have all of these
security measures.
I'm not seen any of this. Anybody saying it's unreliable,
horrible. I just see a bunch of people in the airport. Oh,
oh, it's completely implied. It's completely implies that get
net? Well, why don't we do our executive producer first and
Associate Executive producers and then I'll go through some of
the research.
Really weird executive producer situation this week. Oh, we have
three executive producers and three Associate Executive
producers. And the three executive producers each gave
$333.
Really, this is good stuff.
It's weird. But this is again, of course, anyone who's familiar
with random number theory knows that stuff like this happens and
always happens like this. But this one here is really off the
wall. So let's go over. It guys are okay. Werner a Philipson.
Oh,
I know Werner. Well, yes.
He says hi. He says he's a bit late. He's apparently your
friend. Edie does she poles?
Yes. He's, he's a good guy. He's, let's let's not say too
much about Wernher. But he's
from the Netherlands. And he gave us 333 33
Yeah, maybe I should just say that for those who are donating
$333.33 If you do it three times, we kick in the extra
penny and make you a night on the spot.
Yeah, we're big spenders. When it comes to that kind of thing.
We don't mess around. AJ to ca from normal. Not abnormal, but
normal. Illinois, gave us $333.33 he's donating part of
his tax refund. And he says he could use the karma even though
he has a good job and he's making plenty of money at least.
making dough man.
Well, we appreciate that. Matthew hocking Markinson.
Yeah, Matthew has has donated before as me. Yes. And he
actually donated at 330 in the morning.
Yeah, he did it. It's three things a lot of control. It's
not It's good. It's 330 in the morning, so I give us $333 I
just got out of a cab at a top talk to an African cab driver
here in Brisbane, Brisbane. Brisbane say it right John?
talking all about New World Order all the way home. Anyway,
I was thinking I would donate because I told him I would save
so save a ring for me it's going to be a night I'm amazed that he
thinks the ring will help and pick up chicks
oh yeah we haven't even talked about the power of the ring yet
the power that we're going to make 100 of them so there's
gonna be limited so people that are getting really can be round
one the second ring we do when we every every saw 100 of them
would sell we're not selling these go to the Knights there'll
be a two one the next batch and that'll be slightly different
collect all select social executive for ninja I share
media who was going to wonder if he is going to become sir I
share media
is I share indeed a night today
he thinks he's a knight but he did not because he was he was
donated as light as somebody else. I don't know if he wants
to name mentioned he would like to get a ring but don't chop my
head off blah blah blah. We're gonna have to do the math on
this because he didn't give us a an accounting so and we didn't
do it. So after that Eric and run it up. Eric Michelle is will
be will do a next show if he is for night. Then we have Nina
Chris Kristen HetLand. From Norway. This is good. We have a
lot. This is an international batch people today in Norway and
he he says executive producer equals job somewhere to go now
when the government becomes even more dangerous. Keep up the work
law. Same thing as he gets 200 bucks and then Charles
Hendrickson from Manhattan, Indiana to honour also
interesting numbers. Green John and greetings, John and Adam. I
was finishing up my taxes today while listening to the show on
the Zune. Yay, easy him and the other four guys. Zune good Hausa
because I'm sending a big cheque to the United States Treasury,
it feels like a terrible way. So I decided to send you my Pay Pal
balance on a nice balance. At least I know it will go to
something positive, keep up the great work. And whatever
happened to the wine reviews you promised. Yes.
So Eric, the shill says that I share media actually has made a
donation on behalf of someone else. That's a tough call. Now.
If you're on behalf of someone else, then
we'll be in touch with I share media and ya know if it's what
No, I don't. Was that made on behalf of someone else? Or was
it made by someone else's? That's the same person. So this
is where we I
think we have to have a meeting. Let's have a meeting about this
meeting. I'd like to I'd like to mention a couple of PR
associates, people who would like to become PR associates let
me put it to put it this way.
The Ridley report.com did a nice little. Now this is not I mean,
when I'm thinking of a PR associate, it's got to be big,
right? Like the billboards we had.
Yeah, the billboard or somebody does a piece of graffiti.
Calling into a big national radio show or something like
that. It's kind of on Howard Stern would be funny. That's not
really big national anymore. I
know. But it's still the irony. The irony
would be good. That's true. Then also Tyler glaze who spent $10
on Xbox Live credits to change his as Microsoft Points to
change his gamertag to no agenda podcast all of these good
initiatives, of course, but we're really looking for for
something really, really big obviously to become a full blown
PR associate. In the meantime, we would like to thank humbly
Warner Philipson AJ tcaa Matthew hocking as our executive
producers of episode 192 and our Associate Executive Producers I
share media Nina Kristen HetLand and Charles Hendrickson, you
know that you can put this on your resume you can put it in
your email signature take out that sent from my iPhone thing
that's incredibly lame and put it in executive producer or if
appropriate, Associate Executive Producer of no agenda Show
episode 192 And please, you know what to do we've got a formula
and it is your job to uphold it. Our formula is this we go out we
hit people in the mouth
shut up slave. So, after the show on Thursday, John when of
course this, this ash mageddon took place. I started getting a
lot of emails from mainly musicians who were stuck in
different parts of Europe and like, hey, yeah, screwed. Oh,
yeah, I was like, I got a guy who's got to play with Iggy Pop,
he's got to get to Luxembourg or Strasburg, or whatever. And I'm
like, You know what, I really don't know what's going on with
general aviation. Now, you would presume that aircraft that fly
at much lower levels that don't have turbine engines, and there
wouldn't be a problem with them flying. So I start calling up my
buddies. And it's like, no, go, we're grounded. Nothing in the
sky. And like, Wow, that's pretty amazing. And I talked to
my instructor, Wing Commander William, who's. He's the kind of
guy that really knows all the ins and outs of every aspect of
aviation Wink, wink, nudge nudge. And, and I say so well,
how's the weather he says it is the most beautiful weather ever,
to blue skies, temperatures. Fantastic. This will be awesome
to fly in to where there's no like, you know, volcanic ash
clouds at that there's no volcanic ash cloud here. So
okay, so well. So is anyone flying VFR visual flight rules,
which means you fly, you know, below a certain altitude, which
is much lower than this ash cloud is is reported to be at?
He said, Well, let me tell you what's happened to two of the
guys that that have aircraft maintained with him, one took
off from a private strip in France. And within like 15
minutes he had to mirages flying next to him, forcing him to the
ground mirages. So by the way, they also have jet engines.
Yeah, why the Mirage is up in the air? Well, let
me take it a little further. guy took off from England, from a
small strip, Royal Air Force, right next to him land. And I'm
like, Well, isn't that a little bit? Overkill? I mean, you know,
air traffic control could basically say, excuse me, you
must land now. But that's really
overkill. But you know how much it costs to fly those things
just casually? Why are expensive planes to put in the air in the
first place? Why
yes, I happen to know that it's quite expensive. And so I said
to the Wing Commander, I said, Well, what is that all about? He
says, Well, there's probably something else going on first
clue. And so you know, I've been searching and researching for
the past two days, because this doesn't feel right at all,
particularly if you look at the lamestream media, which is I let
me play this for you, John, you have to listen to Rick Sanchez.
Our favourite, our new favourite guy. This is how the American
media reports on this type of stuff. You've got to listen to
this. This is just amazing. Oh, he's such a he's such a
scientist. I
was just asking. How can you get a volcano in Iceland? To when
you think of when you think of a volcano you think of like how
why he had long words like that. You don't think of Iceland? You
think it's too cold? To have a volcano there? But no, there it
is. What is this?
That is it's too cold to have a volcano there. John.
was just being facetious. But
listen to the rest of the port.
Take us through these pictures. That is a plume of ash coming
out of the top of all volcano going straight up for the cloud.
Okay, yeah, volcanoes. Regular weather happening underneath it,
this thing's go in 10s of 1000s of feet in the sky. And it is
going right into the flight path of an awful lot of aeroplanes
right into the flight path of light into the flight into the
flight path. So let me talk about that for a second.
Because, you know, I was even a little sceptical on on Thursday
show and I have to say you, you jumped all over me saying no
planes crash for Android stop. Yeah, that is of course true.
But that's not when that's if you really fly through the
direct cloud itself, not necessarily this thing that is
allegedly floating over Europe. So here's what interests me, we
have a couple of people who listen to the show who work at
Euro control, to be name not to be mentioned, by the way. And so
I ping them I say, you know, dude, what's going on with, with
Euro control? You know, what's the deal with this? You had you
guys never expected something like this not take into account,
the way the jet stream flows. And the way almost all
transatlantic flights are routed is always over Iceland. Right?
That's for two reasons, one for the Jetstream. So you pick up
some extra speed. And the other one is, it's it's handy if you
have an engine failure to have a place to land. So that's why
you're kind of rounded that way. And also, I think the curvature
of the Earth makes it a shorter route. So So I say, you know,
have you guys ever done any, like, exercises for this? And it
turns out that in November indeed, Euro control, did an
exercise in the event of a volcanic ash. disaster. But they
did it in Italy. Of course, they got some volcanoes there. So
that kind of makes sense. But in, in, in all these years of
transAtlantic flight, they never did a volcanic ash exercise. In
the case, one of these volcanoes in Iceland winter rock that I
found truly weird.
Well, this thing only goes off once every, you know, six 700
years. And I don't think anyone really anticipated it. I think
that one thing, by the way, not to interrupt your train of
thought here, but you know, we have to keep it in mind every
time this particular volcano seems to have erupted. It's next
door neighbour. Something like five times bigger. Yeah, tends
to go off.
Well, so that's my point. You're kind of you're kind of proving
it for me. So anyway, so the next thing is, Where's this
coming from? Where's the shutdown of all airspace coming
from? And like, who who's determining this? Well, it's
coming from. And no one really knows. Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah. So let's start tracing it back. It comes from ICAO. I see
a oh, by the way, has nothing at all about this on their website,
not a news article, not a single thing. ICAO is mainly
responsible for navigational charts, of course, the ICAO code
so each airport has a code and this is a fine United Nations
organisation. They're getting their information from the V A
C, the volcanic ash. I forgot to cite the second a volcanic ash
advisory centre, of which there are nine in the world and these
are at the Met Office officers I should say, the offices the Met
the meteorological offices, the people who bring you the
weather, weather, guys, the weather guys, so all of Europe
is shut down because the V a c in London, has issued in
advisories a bunch of scientists saying oh, you know what?
Sciences is
dangerous to fly. It's dangerous to fly. Tell everybody to shut
down. And
that has to be viewed that they make a note of the time that's
the clip that starts to show. That's the clip. Okay, I'll
search. You don't even it's you sounded.
I sounded good. Did not sound good. So now these are they so
right, I'm looking at the volcanic ash advisory from
London. And it's aviation colour code red. Whatever that means is
this. No one knows what the hell this really means. But then the
so this is not an aviation shutdowns like like aviation
experts said, Wow, this is dangerous. No government said
shut it down. This is dangerous. And now we've got particularly
in Norway, where we have the president of Norwegian Air
saying hey, the danger of flying is really minimal. Even better.
A Scandinavian Scandinavian Airlines captain says this is
the biggest hysteria of the century. Paragon are Stephens.
Yeah, no. I think we've all seen these these.
Guys. I disagree. I don't think everyone has seen these.
That guy's been all over the blogs. That's for sure. That
Scandinavian guy. Oh, really? Now my take on the whole thing
is that if there's none if the skies are like you say if they
said this clear as a bell? Yeah, obviously it's not a problem.
But if there's a big cloud you can be able to fly over the
cloud because the thing was only going the day, say 30,030 35,000
feet. Maybe you can
fly under the cloud. You can fly over the cloud, but there is no
cloud. This is the whole point. There is no cloud KLM the
president of KLM was getting pissed off about this, you know,
maybe losing all that money has something to do with it. His
options were devaluing he they did a test flight last night,
yesterday afternoon, actually, they went up. They took it all
the way up to 41,000 feet. They came back down. They checked the
plane there's like no ash. Nothing wrong. Lufthansa is
flying planes, repositioning planes between Dussel just
Dusseldorf and Munich I believe. So that when aviation cranks up
again, they have to have crews and planes in the right spot. So
they're flying planes. Oh, and did I did I mention perhaps that
to Arabian owned private 740 sevens were allowed to take off
and go home? Go ahead. You know, it's always like that, just like
I'm not 911 No one In fly except a couple of Arab guys, the pope
gladly took to the skies from Rome. Now granted that Rome is a
little bit south of the purported danger area, when he
went off to go join the Knights of Malta, on his on his flight.
And everywhere I keep reading more and more reports of they're
just not really being any clouds that anyone can see. And so how
dangerous can this be? And there's like no end in sight, no
end in sight to this thing. So I'm just going to call it a
hoax. I am it's a total hoax, it makes. So in Norway, you can't
fly helicopters. They're even grounded. Those be you know, go
look at the news and go watch helicopters landing and
sandstorms in Iraq, or even the sandstorms they create
themselves when they land. It's not quite as dangerous as is
being portrayed. Yes, if you fly through the black cloud, then
these particles can I guess they can actually melt or re melt
inside jet engines and clog them up. And as all kinds of, you
know, examples of nuts, I don't think anyone's actually crashed,
they have had to lose altitude and restart the engines. And I
think every single time that's happened, it's turned out okay.
But to shut down. European Aviation for now, we're not what
are we now in day five? By Thursday, Friday? So day four?
Yeah, I thought they'd be back flying yesterday.
So it probably won't happen until until Monday at the
earliest. But from all the predictions they're handing out?
Well, you know, the thing is, you can go up, this is not a new
technology. You can go up with a plane or anything you want with
these various filtering devices that are used by the Air
Pollution Control districts around the world. And they
gather anything that's in the air and particulate, mainly,
which would be what you're worried about here, which is
solid particles that are microscopic. And you can collect
these things and fly him back down. And you can make a
calculation on how many of these things per square mile of air
there are and how potentially dangerous the situation would
be. I have heard that I've heard none of this. It's not an
unusual thing to do. But I haven't heard any reports back
saying, yeah, we've filtered the air in this airspace, and
there's nothing here, or that this light was just enough here
that make it slightly dangerous. I did neither one. It's just as
the straight up, you know, we got somebody who just shut it
down. And we got Mirage jets flying around in the stuff to
bring down private planes. So you might be right. There may be
some other thing at play here. And there is the railroad
strike, which I don't know if it ended yet. I'm not sure.
Well, let me just say a couple other things. The way that I
understand volcanic ash to be measured is with laser. So
there's a certain type of laser that you can shoot through, you
know, whatever cloud they were able to do that. Yeah, and it
can measure the particles. But all of all of this apparently
has been based upon computer models. Well, that's not good.
Exactly. So you've got the, you know, these volcanic ash
advisory centres, and they've got these more likely, it's
probably running on Windows seven. So they've got these
computer models that say, Oh, you shouldn't fly but it's not
actual aviators who are saying this is dangerous. Now, there is
an upside to all of this. And I've seen this mentioned all
over the blogs and Twitter. It has been very nice not having
any chemtrails for a while. Everyone feels happy, we're
upbeat.
We're really the idea. It could be your well being through or to
improve your well being by eliminating over Europe is a
plot it's a scheme by the counter intelligence groups now
shut.
Yeah. You know what I'm telling you, this is at best being
misused. And it's, I'm telling you it there is something
entirely wrong about this, you have to understand what the
economic impact is. It's not just 10s of 1000s of passengers
who are stuck at European airports and foreign airports
not being able to to get in or out. I mean, there's freight
there's mail there's so much stuff that is sent via air. And
I think I really think that this is going to be missed used to
say you know, we really need
you mean like it perhaps the FedEx shipments that are now
backed up in Nashville and elsewhere that now you have just
enough time for intelligence officers to finally go through
all the stuff being shipped to one guy or another.
You're worse than I am. You are really bad.
It gives you a lot of time. Hey, we gotta have a some more time.
We're gonna keep we're gonna keep us shut down for two more
days. We got to find that package
ahead hand me the stanley knife. I need to open up this box.
Another one. This was addressed to the Queen. I am
going to predict that this is going to be spun into a high
speed rail is good. We need more of that we can't rely on
aviation. And what if this thing keeps on blowing for another for
another year
late into the Netherland his neighbour goes off that's what I
mean. It's uh,
you know, and we've we've seen a consistent consistent attacks on
aviation, you know, how much fun is it to fly? I mean, please,
with all the security and all the bullcrap it's no fun to fly,
they make it unfriendly. By the way, Chinese government has
contracted papers have been signed to build bullet trains in
California.
Built by China. Yep.
The US has looked to China for help building railroads ever
since Chinese labourers lay down the tracks for the
Transcontinental Railroad in the 1860s the Cooley slaves now. Now
California hopes a partnership with the Middle Kingdom can do
for 21st century high speed rail.
Well, actually rail is a scam.
Well, that that would be this is exactly what I said. This is the
skin you know, they're talking about a high speed bullet train
from China to London. I'm not kidding.
Like a, like an accident waiting to happen. You know, when
you say to someone, you know, I had dinner last night with a
couple of people who say, you know, although I think that
they're really just trying to make trains more popular, which
of course would, you know, it's just another way to get
everybody back to work. Not saying that's necessarily a bad
thing. But everyone will say, you know, I would rather take
the train. I'm like, oh, yeah, ever seen a train wreck? But you
know, no one gives a shit, right? When you say that? The
Oh, the train sounds much safer. I'd much rather take the train.
As it takes two days. They're gonna do this high speed rail
between Los Angeles and San Francisco and I looked at the
plans, it's going to take you three hours. It's a 45 minute
flight. It takes it's not going to be cheaper. You can't do it
for less than Virgin America. 75 bucks.
No, it's not going to be cheaper. So 75 you can sometimes
get $59 on that flight? No, it's going to be really all you have
to do. Here's all you have to do is look at the Amtrak because I
have always considered taking this thing. The Amtrak train
from Emeryville, Oakland, San Francisco, wherever you want to
call it to advertising, whatever you want to call it, all the way
up to Seattle. And you have to take a sleeper because it's a 24
hour trip. You can drive from San Francisco to Seattle and
about 14 to 15 hours max that's what's stopping and you know,
taking a crap and eating dinner and the train takes 24
hours I know it's a step backwards. It's Atlas Shrugged,
reinvigorated.
There they're what you just hard up for doing the Atlas Shrugged
thing and at any opportunity. Well,
it's a tiger trans Continental, that's what they're building
is trans Continental. But anyway, the point is I, when I'm
in Europe, I like to take the train because it's a for one
thing the cities are, it's amenable for trade for trains
because there's a bunch of packed in cities, the United
States is not amenable in Europe is not 400 miles between every
little city. It's you know, they're all over the place. It's
doable. Yeah, what I mean, the whole size of Holland isn't even
400 miles wide. What is it anyways, like 40
that's a little more than 40.
So you can sort of train make sense. And but here it doesn't
make any sense. We have too many wide open spaces. And so it's
the easiest thing to do is to fly and I think anyone who
travels around the world or travels a lot knows this and
then knows the impracticality of these trains or even if you've
you've you've priced them out, I have taken the train a number of
times I've taken some fancy trains. I took the crescent from
Washington DC to Atlanta, Georgia one year, because I was
in New York or I was in Washington DC I guess was in
Washington DC and I had to go to Comdex in Atlanta and I couldn't
really get a room it was cheaper to take the train as slow as it
was. But because this was a this was a practical consideration.
I'd have spent the night in Washington DC which was going to
cost me like 100 bucks. The train over the overnight or
sleeper car plus the cost of the flight offset by the cost of the
flight was about 25 bucks cheaper and I slept in the John
the train save the hotel and that got in the next morning in
Atlanta, but it was a long night. long trip, but it was
kind of amusing and you got fed.
And people always say, well, at least you'll see something. At
least they'll see something of the landscape.
It was night.
Yeah, exactly. If they've seen some hookers on board, I'd be
inclined.
Yeah, though, that's not happening anytime soon. But
anyway, so in Europe, I, I do like to look at the scenery on a
regular train of the high speed train the irony of those you
don't see anything because they're in a trench.
Exactly. Or in a trench or in a trench.
And so they put them in a trench. So the cars won't
interfere with the passage and people who had kids can't throw
rocks at him because in the United States, can you imagine?
Do you think you can hit it Billy I mean, everywhere in the
world the car carriers have cars on them in the United States
covered with first aid recovery with with like plastic now
they're covered with steel. So the cars are inside, because
kids all over the country, you know, in the middle of nowhere
USA, throw rocks because Oh, look at the Mercedes hit the
Mercedes, all raw, good jobs. Busted windows. So I mean, this,
you have to put these things in a trench. I mean, in Europe,
they do it for not because of the kids like they would have to
hear, but they just do it because they like to speed down
there. They don't.
Sorry. Any reason to play as the Osborne is good enough, right?
Pretty much anyway. So let me just get me when boring is to
somebody to tell them. I'm so bored. Now. I go from hand over
to Croatia, occasionally on the train. And when I go to cc bit,
I'll go to visit my publisher in Croatia so I could fly but I
rather take the train because it's a good day trip. It takes
Oh, it takes like nine hours it would take me about a half an
hour to fly. But I get a good view. And it's kind of relaxing.
I don't mind doing it. But I don't see it working in the
United States under any circumstances except along the
eastern seaboard between Philadelphia, Boston,
Washington, DC and New York.
So there's one more theory I have for you today. And I've not
heard if it has been delayed or not due to the volcanic ash
cloud. Today, launching from Cape Canaveral, the x 37 B space
vehicle. Have you heard about this little ditty John?
Yeah, that's supposed to be our next generation. Yeah,
well, it's an Air Force machine. It looks kind of like, it looks
like a mini Space Shuttle with like, teeny wings. Of course,
it's quite secretive. It has a payload bay. And it's very
unclear if there's anything or what would be in the payload bay
or sorry, the experiment Bay.
They don't yeah, it just not as big as the other one. So it's
not gonna hold
small, it's, well, you don't need much. So maybe they just
wanted to clear skies for this thing. Let's log out Eric comes
to control. I've just said, Look, we're by Thursday show I
guarantee you will know a hell of a lot more. Something is up,
aviators are getting pissed off. This was this was a government
controlled operation, not an aviation shutdown. aviators did
not call for this no aviator saying, Oh, it's really
dangerous. This blue sky blue, clear sky beautiful weather. Do
you even keep prop planes at lower altitude out of the sky?
You know, can you imagine how great it would have been if they
just said, Alright, we're gonna let all general aviation anyone
who can fly VFR in this beautiful weather you can, you
know, I know guys who've got twin engine props turbo turbo
prowess with maybe maybe that will be a problem. But at low
altitude, they can take 10 passengers, we could have really
done a lot of good.
So I'm thinking you what you want is one of these you want a
just to see what would happen because then you don't want to
do it with a person. So you have to have a robotic some plane
that you could control remote control using remote control
like you would with a with a predator. So you take off like a
little Piper Cub and off of a landing strip in France.
I know what'll happen. I know it wasn't me. Let me know
if he's got either scenario then you tell me all right. You put a
crash test dummy and so it looks like somebody's flying the plane
and you're flying to thing and you're only really has one
function is that when the jets come by and they stand they
start pointing down, get down, get down. I robotic hand comes
up and flips them off.
So the Wing Commander actually told me, he says the Mirage
guys, he says they're really nice once and then when you
don't comply, the next thing they do is they put their wings
underneath yours and we'll and we'll hit upwards so they'll
start banging your wings with their Mirage wings and then
they'll get in front of you and turn on the afterburner. He
says, melt you're playing you want and that's what I said. I
said, No, no, you won't melt but you will land bases. When that
happens when one of those mirages turns on the afterburner
in your face. When they hit you in the face, no, you will
definitely land. So that's what's going on. But these guys
are nasty. You can imagine the wing underneath yours going
tick, tick, tick, tick, you know, that's frightening. If you
don't want any of that, any of it.
Oops, not showing off. Hey,
I only have one just moving along here since we really don't
have any information other than it's weird. I have one little
ditty on poppies, for today's early morning service. And it
was so funny. When I heard this, someone sent this clip to me
from things the BBC. This is actually a very sad case of
British servicemen who's in Afghanistan Whose vehicle was
blown up by an AI not an anti tank mine, not an IED been anti
tank mine. But listen to what he says about the Afghan police,
the soldiers and it's also been that big round about protection
on other vehicles used by the armed forces and kit as well.
Let's go to Bradford and Charlotte Mazumdar, who's been
talking to one former soldier, Carl Klaus.
So I'm just in cars living room at the moment, massive 50 inch
Telly on one side of the room. And as a walk to the other side,
there's a picture of Carl and his mates, smiling sat around on
their armoured vehicle. This though was taken just a few
hours before Carl's life changed forever. Carl, thanks for having
us over today. Yes, fine. So just start by telling us what
happened to you that day.
Our vehicle antitank mine flipped on its right inside. I
suffered over 20 injuries. And eventually, one of them resulted
in my left leg after being treated below the knee.
So how's life changed for you since then,
by the way, great question. Well, the walk in sucks bitch.
Here comes
run, struggle to walk up and down hills. Going out on
weekends going to nightclubs playing sport, doing everything
that 21 year olds do. And then all that came to a hole.
As I'm sure you know, a lot has been said hasn't it about
whether troops are given good enough kit? Do you think they
are?
Well, the vehicle I was in when when we hit the mine, the only
armour basically is was a five mil belly plate on the wick,
which obviously to an anti tank mine is nothing if I was in a
mastiff, I could safely say that I'll be talking to you now with
two legs, who promised vehicles new vehicle, just let down time
after time after time again,
obviously the general election is coming up in a matter of
weeks. What do you think whoever gets into government should do
about Afghanistan?
I'd pull out when I was on convoy in Afghanistan. The
Afghan police were on how to win. We're going to check. There
you go. Did you hear it? Yeah. The
Afghan police are on heroin, heroin, heroin.
They are stoned. Yeah. But it's just like, a shocker. Lost over
it's like, oh, they're on okay. That's no
good. I know. They already knows how to glom on to the good, you
know, reporters today, especially the broadcast
journalist they can't they they're so self absorbed or some
they're not listening. They don't hear these these little
comments that you would normally jump on, say what they want and
then you'd go right into that form of questioning. You started
asking about the poppies know how they get the heroin. Where's
the heroin? You'd go right into it, but they don't even hear it.
It's weird.
I'm just trying to clear up a couple things right off the bat.
You know what we've been talking about? How naked is now porn?
And so,
three definitions of common day usage is right, so we're seeing
the bar. It's
getting really really bad. This is from New York geek, Newspeak
AI doublespeak THE NEW SPEAKER doublespeak whatever CNN
releases a report titled porn for the blind porn for the bad
guy. I saw that I'll just play a little bit of it since you've
seen it.
There are plenty of racy pictures for people who can see
but if you're blind, this may be the only way to cop a feel.
White raised images of naked bodies with Braille descriptions
alongside some are calling it porn for the blind. There you
go.
So there's basically this braille book and they've got
people naked, you know, actually artistic pictures of people
naked. And this whole report is about porn for the blind porn,
does it does it arouse you does it or does it make you horny?
Hey scrase Where'd
you get that voice?
Does it make your horny? That's good. Thank you.
That's more.
That's how I talked to Mickey.
Does it make that? That's what I heard? Yes.
Yeah, it really works by the way it apparently a huge turn on Oh
man.
Yeah, your idea the lack of Chem Chem Trails is helping you out.
Yeah. So. So are we done with this topic?
Yeah. Do you want to do Haiti now or later? Because that's my
other good one.
Oh, well, let's see how we doing. You can do it. Now. If
you I mean, what what's going on in Haiti? That's, besides the
going scam? Well, the
scam, the scam does continue. I'll give you three news
articles. And then I'll play a little bit of a clip, which is
just too funny. So first of all, Bill Clinton is downplaying the
possibility of corruption sidetracking, rebuilding an
earthquake devastated Haiti. He keeps speaking at these
conferences where they're going to decide how to spend the $8
billion to rebuild it. He had a meeting at the University of
Miami with the Clinton Global Initiative. We know one thing
for sure, if you like the gunfight that's going on in
Northwest Mexico, you'll love Haiti 10 years from now, if
that's what thrills, yeah, this horrible chaos from Monterrey to
the border, you will just love Haiti if you walk away from it.
So now it's justifying the total takeover of, of the country.
Then Clinton and Bush and I wish I had audio from this, maybe
someone can find it for me. Like, it was a letter to the
Democratic and Republican leaders, but it will be so funny
as a sound drop provided to the Associated Press. The CIA, the
friends of the CIA, or the former president say, Please buy
clothes from Haiti. You know, there's people who work for $3 a
day, please buy clothes from Haiti. They need help. Don't
send your cash by their clothes. Unbelievable. That is pretty
bad. And then a Snore, snore. One of our producers was
listening to a nationals game the other day for the Giants San
Francisco Giants, even though he's Norwegian, he's a big
Giants fan. And he here he heard says he heard an ad which we
have to find. I'd only got the email this morning. I didn't
have time to research it. Quote, all of April month is Haiti
toothbrush donation month. What? What, it's Haiti toothbrush
donation month, send us send us your toothbrush, I don't
understand. The thing is out of control, Shyster show up and
take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity. So then
the Red Cross gets put on the spot. The Red Cross, of course,
you know, how am I don't know how many millions went to the
Red Cross to help Haiti. And of course, the Red Cross is like,
if you look at the video that or the sparse video that is showing
up from Haiti, ominously absent, is Red Cross. So here is one of
the eight elitist bitches from the Red Cross, who's sitting in
her mahogany office, and listen to what she has to say. She's
president, Gail McGovern, why people are saying they don't see
the red cross on the ground in Haiti. Go ahead, Gail, want to
tell us
that it would have been so easy for us to send hordes of
volunteers to Haiti, and then people would see us on the
ground.
But why bother when we can just keep the money, but it will
create chaos
for so many reasons. First of all, there is no shortage of
people that would like to go and when I made the two trips to
Haiti, frankly, I wanted to stay and help.
No, but I but I had a luncheon. I couldn't stay. It was
impossible. I wanted to help but it had to leave.
But the problem is, every person that is there is going to
require food. Every person that is there is going to require
shelter. And it's just creating more mouths to feed. And as it
turns out, we would have to fly people from all over the United
States
into these things called aeroplanes. It's really
difficult.
And that is not a good use of our donors dollars.
No, no, no, no, we need to invest that into our office and
into our corporate fleet. Can you believe what this woman is
saying?
She's unbelievable and she and she does not stop.
What we're doing instead is we have a core group of American
Red Cross employees there in Haiti that are helping with
material logistics ensuring that trucks are being loaded with
supplies. eyes. And then we are relying on the Haitian red cross
the 10s of 1000s, of Haitian Red Cross volunteers to distribute
the food.
So I have another YouTube video, which unfortunately has no sound
and it's these red cross operatives on the ground. And
you literally see the guys putting on like these red cross
like, you know, plastic vests, Hey, your red cross now, okay?
And you see them setting up tents. And it's the funniest
thing because they're like, they're hammering pegs into the
ground, the hammering on their hands, they're missing the pigs.
It's like a bunch of boneheads, they don't have anyone on the
ground, this woman is full of crap, she's lying.
And this has a lot of advantages to it. First of all, they speak
Creole. Second of all, they know the countryside, third of all
creates fewer mouths to feed. And very importantly, it's
psychologically empowering. This isn't our
John, we need to psychologically empower the poor Haitians who
are about to be washed away. Wow, is this incredible or what?
I don't think psychological empowerment is a top priority at
the moment. My leg,
let me empower you.
We have to be very respectful of the people that live there and
respectful of our counterparts that make up the Haitian Red
Cross. And we want to make sure that when we leave that there is
a thriving sustainable Haitian Red Cross to help the people of
Haiti.
Wait a minute, I thought there was already 10,000 people there
who are already thriving in their word they're doing theirs
does your doublespeak unbelievable, so why not put the
Red Cross logo on all of your supplies? The next question is,
well, I think that's a very good question, you could identify
that your money's actually going there and is being
I have heard from people that have been on the ground in Haiti
that they don't see evidence of the American Red Cross. And
there's actually a very good reason for that. They're
probably seeing our tents are tarps, our food and supplies and
emergency relief kids wherever they go. But we have not chosen
to slap our brand on all that supplies and on the tents and on
on the tarps. And the reason is we didn't want to hold up
sending relief items into Haiti and put the logo on it that eats
up time and
it eats up time. She was there first she says she was there
then I've heard from people they're in
a crisis like is what is happening in Haiti. We want to
descend things as quickly as possible and get it on the
ground there for relief. Anything is putting our logo on
people's temporary homes. It just doesn't feel right. And we
are all about
meanwhile, she's wearing a red cross brooch. encrusted with
diamonds.
She is yes, she's
wearing a red cross brooch.
encrusted with diamonds.
Looks like it.
People in Haiti have what they need, not only physically but
also psychologically. So that's why we elected not to brand
everything that's that's out there. But I can assure you that
our presence is being felt by the people of Haiti.
Yeah, the lack of it. That's what a blood a bunch of
bullcrap. And she's not like she's saying that we're, you
know, our money is going to these people, if they kept the
money.
You know, there was a good week, I think it was on 60 minutes. I
can't remember which and I don't know if I have the clip. I know
I don't have an audio clip this week. They were showing where
they're moving a lot, you know, they're putting up tent cities.
But instead of putting up anywhere near the town of Port
au Prince, they've got them two or three miles away where
there's no supplies, there's no water, there's nothing in there
putting these tents up. And they went on and show it and the
people are complaining so what are we supposed to do out here?
They're not gonna want to go they're staying away to go right
they should just screw this and so they'd rather not be there
but meanwhile, they discover there's all kinds of open space
or in and around portal prisoners needs to be cleared
and they're doing that and just putting up un offices United
Nations putting in really nice trailers and they showed it they
say power supplies and and you know, generators and trailers
and you know, eggs where you can take the people and get them to
get mugged get them out of here. There in a way.
It's just unbelievable. It's just fucking believable. It
drives me nuts. The people that just waiting from the die Yeah.
What will it be John? Two, three weeks, maybe 1000s die. I'm from
rain floods in Haiti. And we'll be like, Ah, if only we could
gotten to him sooner. We really tried.
I would like anybody out there listening to this show who
catches local reports because we only get a few. And we do get
them. But if you get a local reporter that happens to give
one of these reports from Haiti, which says, you know, hey, I
don't see any red cross or anything like that, if you can
find some way to make a clip, and I would advise, of course,
everybody to own a zoom, h2 recorder, which you can hook to
your television set and make mp3 is right from the from the audio
for you without having to go through a miserable experience.
And very inexpensive in handy. You can also use them to bootleg
rock concerts. Yeah. Cool.
Yeah, that's that's actually I use my iPhone memo recorder. It
works pretty well. Doesn't sound too crappy. It's it's not that
much worse than a line recording. Pretty good. Oh,
there we go. As usual, it's time to lose John. Yeah, stream is
backup. Okay.
You know that Time Warner Cable thing you've got stinks.
You know, it's the weirdest thing because I have all kinds
of network monitoring. And it literally it just drops out.
They just just disconnects and it's the router disconnecting
from the entire network. And it's, it's one of
the ones you get a different router. Maybe it's your router.
It's one of these, maybe it's one of these routers, it was
their newest one. I said get me
the DOCSIS and DOCSIS router that Time Warner gave me who
made it. Do you have a second? I
gotta look under the table.
Yeah, we all have a second. So just the streams running. I'll
keep people entertained with my with my ribald tails. Oh,
it's a net gear. It's a net gear.
That's pretty good here. Yeah. And this is the one that Time
Warner gave you.
Yeah, it's a net gear that plugs directly into the cable, and
then it has Wi Fi built in and five Ethernet ports.
Well, let's get you a better one. If you think it's that I
mean, I don't
think it is, I mean, what I'm seeing is it's literally just a
cable disconnecting periodically. It makes no sense.
But that's not a dacha. Where was your DOCSIS modem? You have
to have no no, it's
built into this thing. It's built into it. And before every
show, I disconnected I turn the power off. I let it completely
drain of all residual power. I plug it back into it. So I know
that it's not overloaded or anything which actually seems to
it might it looks like it who knows, on Thursday dropped out
three times. I don't know John. I mean, I just don't know.
And I think what do I think my plan maybe? Let's see, I don't
even know that Netgear made a DOCSIS modem.
Yeah, it's brand new. Doesn't look it doesn't have a model
number on it anywhere. It's a small it's a small little box.
Yeah, net gears DOCSIS, blah, blah, blah. Netgear cable
gateway earns DOCSIS 3.0 certification from cable labs
December 14 is probably what do you guys see 3200 D
It's too new. Is that what you're saying? Well,
I don't know. But let's talk to Netgear about it. Just can
continue
now. Did you see a no you probably didn't. Did you see
Bill Maher? I have clips oh good because I got so angry. I got so
angry at that show.
Wait a minute before you do that i we let's play the beer bill
the beer Mark clips in the proper order I think I think I
sent it to you in the right order. Find your little scent
box here. I've got
the Chinaman saying
yeah, well here's the here's the okay here's what the the thing
they did they got me irked was more on breeders you might want
to just play that this is probably probably part of what
got you irked
there was a lot that got me your
tuition where I think the concern shouldn't just be about
people such a large proportion not paying federal income taxes.
They pay all the taxes I've mentioned but they haven't got
the money
okay, what are they gonna buy but the IRS our economy IRS has
sort of become an Oregon of social engineering in America
which it never used to be that is kind of a big new thing and
they
bribe Do you have a trial do you get a tax credit? Shouldn't you
get a crack tax debit? I mean that kids this is a guy who has
no kids right?
Yeah no he's got no kids he hates children he wants on his
on his show politically incorrect talked about how how
it wasn't a bad idea to beat kids seriously. And the guys is
he's at this show by the way is interesting because he does has
no balance on the on the panel. Hello everybody is very lucky
to Brits to British people telling us we need VAT in our
country my country you bitches
and the we get this Laura Flanders from Greg Green who is
just a I
don't say that word yes I was yelling at my television level
and play the rest of the breeders clip and I was like 30
seconds left it's worth it cost everybody a lot of money why I
mean really seriously why why is a mortgage deductible Why are
all the you know why your church's taxes Why Why don't
they make judgments about what's good and what's bad what why do
some people get a break? Why to rent Why are renters and breeder
builders, the biggest renters of traders, a bigger problem which
is tax taxing income, we should be taxing consumption more
income. That's what most other countries are run these damn
Brits now I got nothing against my brothers and sisters from
Gitmo nation East. But these two two bronies.
Now, let me bring up something that's premise based. Maher goes
off on this saying they've become social engineers have
recently said, Well, recently, there's always been a deduction
at first for dependents since you know, since they actually
started adding, you know, since the 1920s. And they've always
been a deduction from a mortgage deduction since the 1920s. I
mean, this is not new. What do you think they wasn't introduced
last week? So I mean, so he's, so his history is all screwed
up. So, but here's what the show actually went off the track very
early during his monologue. He was he was about the fact he
didn't say the word Chinaman. Yeah, that was I have a clip of
here. It's a Chinaman clip, and it rattled him. He seen this
week's show fine. You got another few days to see it
because they reran it a million times on HBO. He was physically
rattled by cars on gas. Yeah, it's like the rest of the show.
He was he was mulling this over for the entire show. He played
the Chinaman clip. He's a racist.
He knows it's Obama's fault. He just can't figure out how the
context is the President bowing to, to the to the Chinaman. This
week, they were very upset with Obama because he had his big
nuclear summit and he apparently bowed a little to the Chinese
president. Well, that's what you do. He's a giant, not a
Chinaman. He's a he's a man from China, whatever the quick is
don't write me. Anyway, you know? Yeah. He's a racist.
was a racist. We know he's an ageist. Yeah, yeah, no, he's a
racist. Of course he is. He's a terrible guy.
And a big part of the show was about that would say
consistently. He consistently calls the Tea baggers. Tea
baggers? Tea baggers? Tea baggers.
Yeah, he will not say Tea Party which is the proper which is
what they are so
to an extent that one of his guests actually said the tea bag
party by accident because he hammered this was total mind
control tea bag or tea bagger. And then the whole I don't know
if you have that clip or not. But the whole panel discussion
starts off with well we find out that what this is really about
is people don't hate their government. They just hate black
people in government. Oh,
yeah. He harps on this. What does that based on? It's based
on nothing.
It's rude. It's rude. He's creating racism this guy is
horrid. Get them off the air. Do you have any more clips from
this?
No. to I can't take much of that character.
I just want to say that the head the panel and and they bring on
a guest and this is this is what frightens me the most because
here it is. Here's your next war on terror bid. This is Lawrence
Bender. This is the guy who produced an inconvenient truth.
He now has a new movie which of course was launched at Sundance.
Oh, it's it's a beautiful movie. John. I thought at Sundance that
it was so impressive. It gave me chills and really is just that
frightened me it Bill Maher actually called his movies more
frightening than those that West Craven makes. And he's made this
New Movie Countdown to zero and countdown to zero which of
course were screened for I think the President might have even
have been there is the inconvenient truth version of
terrorists have nuclear weapons. That's the new thing. That's
what this whole nuclear summit is about is about terrorists cab
nukes terrorists will set off nuclear weapons. Now news
reports Oh, if anyone attacks Iran nukes will go off all over
America. We've got our dirty bombs nukes everywhere
terrorists have nuclear weapons. Don't you think that if
terrorists had nuclear weapons that would have set them off by
now? Oh, yeah. I mean,
they could have set them off by now. What's the point of
waiting? It's
the whole thing is just to scare you that terrorists have nuclear
weapons. They've got them countdown to zero. The scariest
movie ever more scary, more scary than Inconvenient Truth.
Now, from the makers of Inconvenient Truth, we bring you
count down to zero, put your head between your knees and Kiss
your ass goodbye. You're all fucked.
You do a lot of voices today. I'm feeling good. Unless maybe
there's something to that theory about the
Jeff Skoll guy. Who is who's paying for this? His name he
like are one of the eBay founders. Maybe not. Yeah, he's
always he's always financing this crap. Yeah.
It makes money it entertains the public, which makes me scared
now. I mean, you can see where, like you said, Wes Craven and
this guy, they're the same, you know, just the same dude, just a
different version of the same thing. You know, hairy, scary,
scary movie. You know, and there's a fiction fiction. I
mean, like, Inconvenient Truth, you know, bullshit.
Whoa, yay. Nice. All right. So let's just talk about some of
the supporters of this show because they've helped us out
tremendously with our media assassination, which I think
we're doing a fine job of this morning.
Well, as you call that media. Yeah, we have had some good
contributions this week, especially at the producers
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that send us some money and support did us for this week.
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regular listener and has yet to donate. Damn. Now can we have a
lot of a few 5510s of actually two which is odd. Robert
Campbell two nickels on the dime from Walworth New York with a
long note he's been in Episode Episode One listeners always
been remissed until until enough to donate he's heard stories
about the karma he needs to karma apparently need some and
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I will donate when it does sell okay
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they'll just sell the body. Shell to kill keep the engine
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Please, I need to sell this thing. It's like the aviation
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Okay, Happy Ending over indeed.
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Well, let's just thank our executive producers, Werner
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Okay, now, all we need is cash as we do it. By the way, I also
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I have a little trivia for you. Yeah, let's do a little trivia
for a second.
No, but Go Go for it.
Okay. Here we go. Who said this? Haiku is an awakening of the
Spirit away from technocratic rationality. Away from the
sophistication attention seeking and glitter. Back to Basics. Our
time is in need of simplicity. Al Gore, no, no. Jerry Brown.
No. Oh, come
on. This Clinton?
No. Who is haiku Herrmann. Oh, I knew this haiku Herrmann fun the
room boy Yes, he has finally released his book of haikus.
This is the President of the United States of Europe, who
Nigel Farraj is likened to the via having the personality of a
damp dish cloth. quoted today he actually quoted Charles de
Gaulle at his the release of his haiku book and saying,
gentlemen, do I look like a dictator? Which I think is just
meant
that he said Yes, oh, yeah, look like a dick. I don't
have the audio, does. He? Of course, he looks like a dictator
Ceausescu characters, dictator in Romania,
as the girl although I cannot compare myself with him, I would
say gentleman, do I look like a dictator? Ha. So he released his
book of haikus. I will read one to you and then I will give you
his Flemish and French reading of another one which I translate
I will translate for you on the fly. Because this is coming from
the President of the United States of Europe, representing
over 400 million people, soon to have his own army, a haiku by
Herman Van Rompuy in the nearby ditch toads meeting
passionately, inaugurate spring it's beautiful. Okay, another
one. Frost has now hardened the folds of winter soil. Tomorrow,
it will thaw
sounds like the stuff that Bunnell posted my son, if you go
to Twitter, slash 12.
Two, that's exactly what it sounds like.
These stupid commentaries and he's been doing I don't know how
I can maintain this by the way.
Let's listen to let's listen to some some of his own readings
and I'll translate it for
you. Some pointers and social paradox here doesn't move.
So he's actually saying the final part of the of the kaiku
has to be a point it has to be a paradox. Thank you, Herman. To
Ada, who wish two days gone. DeVito these footballers, the
world has changed.
The frat boy blues,
the fruit, the fruit tree blossoms it's beautiful. I have
tears in my eyes.
Guys. Do this guy needs counselling and he's gonna read
it again.
Today dark rubbish. gone for two days the vehicle is Fernando the
world has changed
the front boom blowed
the fruit tree blossoms. And if that wasn't enough, let's do it
in French
visual mordashov The first day of the do it again. Do shoot
more the version of flow
genius standing ovation. That's what we're up against. The
President of the United States of Europe, ladies and gentlemen.
That's the guy who was going to rule the world.
Gotta love it. All right. So let's get into some awesome
clips. Here's a good one. There's this guy I'm listening
to is a new senator from Nebraska. Your favourite state?
I like
Nebraska.
Boys Club?
Oh, yes, of course. Boys Town. boys toys town.
Boys do there's no boys club anymore. Now it's the Boys and
Girls Club. Yeah, right. Yo, Hans. Nebraska senator. He's on
C span during a vote and they're grilling him about the economy
and what can be done about this new and he's talking tough. So
play the Blanche Preet. No, no, pre Glass Steagall doesn't go
into this thing does just play that clip pre pre Illinois. from
Diane independence. Go ahead, please. Yes. Oh, this
is the C span callin show.
Yeah. Now, by the way, this woman calling in is hilarious. I
think she's I think, personally that she's in the tank. But
whatever the case is, she actually makes kind of drunken
sense. And of course, he picks up the ball after that nice
Illinois. from Diane independence. Go ahead, please.
Yes. My question is, is if we don't rein in too big to fail
the way these financial institutions are intertwined.
We're never going to let them fail. Whether there's a
Republican or a Democrat in the White House. It doesn't matter.
We're going, the American people are going down the tubes.
Watching both parties. Sell us out. For contributions from
these banks.
She's my new hero. I love this woman. Did I have not heard it
said that simply.
I know. I was stunned myself.
This is what needs to be corrected.
Diane, you could not be more right. One of the first I'm a
fairly new senator. I've only been there about a year and a
half. But one of the first votes I had was the second piece of
the tarp funding the federal money that in my judgement has
really become a slush fund for every cause out there. I voted
against it. I just thought it was the wrong course of action
the wrong direction and
wouldn't be funny if she said in the morning,
we need to firmly plant a stake in the heart of too big to fail.
This idea that you get so big that taxpayers are duty bound to
bail you out is absurd and ridiculous. The only way I
believe we can do that is pass a very, very strong piece of
legislation here. I do not believe that this current bill
goes far enough. And okay, he's talking to have is not going far
enough. We got to you, by the way, everyone should note out
there. And anyone who studies it knows that all the institutions
that were too big to fail that were set are bigger now than
they were before. Every too big to fail company is really a lot
bigger than
it was and they acquired a lot of other companies just become
bigger.
Yeah, they're huge. But anyway, so this guy is talking tough. So
meanwhile, somebody comes up some guy calls in next and not
the next one. But shortly down the line, and talks about Glass
Steagall. Now, Glass Steagall was a bill that was passed
during the Great Depression, that just came out of the Great
Depression long, a lot of other provisos to keep these banks in
check from getting too big to fail. And from banks, taking on
too many things, selling insurance, selling stocks, and
doing all kinds of mixed mixed bag of things. It was
prohibited. And the Glass Steagall along with the banking
accident that kept banks from doing interstate banking, and a
lot of these other rules and regulations, kept everything in
check. And they were all repealed Glass Steagall the guy
mistakes and makes the mistake of saying Glass Steagall was
from 1999. Glass Steagall, Steagall was, was eliminated in
1999. By Clinton, along with the Democrat, I'm sorry, with blue
with the Republican Congress. So this guy brings up an
interesting question. Now, listen to what Mr. Get tough.
Oh, we got to get tough. We got to do more. Listen to what his
response to this question is.
Next up is Gail and Belgrade main Republican line. Good
morning.
Good morning. Senator, I did want to ask you a question. Some
of the better accounts that I had read about the genesis of
the financial meltdown in 2008. Two culprits kept coming up all
the time. And all the accounts that I read was The expansion of
the monetary base from the Federal Reserve that created the
housing bubble. But the other thing was the repeal of the 1999
Glass Steagall Act, that put up a wall between regular
commercial banks for people had FDIC insurance, that you just
put your savings in there, and the investment banks,
so we need to just stop here for one second, John just explained
that, that it was the Treasury who allowed all of these
investment banks and the bank is the wrong word. It's a company
investment company, to become regular bank so they could get
tarp down,
because they could not have done that if it wasn't for what this
guy calls by the way, Glass Steagall last seamen.
That's what it is. But that was repealed under the Clinton
administration, but with the help of a Republican Congress,
and I believe it was led by Phil Gramm, Republican senator from
Texas at the time. This seemed to give an implicit guarantee to
the investment banks that when they when all these complicated
derivatives and collateral debt obligations just collapsed,
they're given implicit government guarantees that that
happened, we taxpayers bailed out these firms. So we bailed
out AIG has allowed the taxpayers to be evil, have AIG
pay Goldman Sachs and foreign banks? Isn't it time that we
reinstitute Glass Steagall, to prevent that from happening
again? And why isn't it a part of this new new bill? I would
not go there. Let me offer
a general socket, you can stop it. Now. He just started talking
about something else. Yeah, this whole was talking tough a minute
ago. And then when it comes to Glass Steagall, which I agree
with with if it was in place, we probably wouldn't have this this
meltdown. But this guy because of there's some corruption
within the Republican Party. And of course, when they mentioned
Phil Gramm as being behind the repeal of Glass Steagall, and if
you start looking into Phil Gramm and his and his lobbyists
wife and check out what they're up to, it's enough to make you
throw up guys like this are part of the problem.
For those of you wondering what we're doing watching C span two,
one we don't have to see, somebody's got to watch it. It's
what you support us for. So
on C span, there's by the way, I still have to get my education.
I couldn't I was gonna do my educational thing today. But
now, over the weekend, CNN ran a education special with this
Boney Head Head of the head of the Department of Education, the
Obamas guy in Chicago. And unfortunately now it gave me so
much more new material that I've got to re edit all this stuff.
So sorry, it's not gonna bore people totally stiff. Or maybe
I'll just put the whole thing on a CD. I'm not sure while you're
while you're doing that,
John, look up. ERBD r b e, Echo Romeo, bravo. It's the Education
report board are making pre K four year olds do tests. Know, I
had dinner last night with a with a friend and she says,
we're really worried about this test as if we get kids like for
ya know, it's the ERP test. What is it? I don't know. But it's
the ERP test. She has to be ready for the test. And they're
rich, like for houses like rich, rich headphones rich. And
they've got tutors for the four year old. Oh, this is sick. Oh,
yeah. The ER B. Yeah, you
have to engage in educational records. Even more to do
Oh, yeah, no, this this is awesome. So we'll do that in a
future show. Sorry for the interruption. I think you have
more on this.
I got plenty. Yeah. So But meanwhile, listening to watching
some stuff on CNN but me while they had this on books, the
books TV thing they do over the weekend,
too. And, by the way, I just want people to know, this is our
life. Okay, so I had a dinner. All right. This is one of
Mickey's friends. Her husband runs a hedge firm, hedge hedge
fund. And he or she actually had dinner and we can get on that
later said, so what do you think of this Goldman thing? I said,
yeah, don't look over here. But anyway, I'm on my way. And
John's like C span two now I'm like, Oh, crap. Maybe there's
someone C span two. And luckily, I have this. I have the C span
app. So I fire up the C span app. And on the way to dinner,
we're listening to C span to in the car. I just went that is our
life. That is what we do for you. So you don't have to.
If we weren't doing this show, I can assure you we wouldn't be
doing. We wouldn't be doing that. We're actually ruining our
lives doing this stuff. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so here's the
thing. Here's the deal. So some months back, I saw this woman,
Nicole jolliness. And she finished a book call that she
did a book called after the fall. And by the way, this is an
alert to our book, guys who have no agenda, bookstore, and some
other stuff online. And they put these books on for people to buy
and they take a piece of the Amazon sales and send us a chunk
of that, which is very little because Amazon doesn't give me
anything. But anyway, the book is by Nicole Julene has called
after the fall and it's a deconstruction of the financial
crisis saving
capitalism from Wall Street and Washington.
And then she was interviewing Harry Markopolos the guy, the
whistleblower of the Madoff whistleblower who just released
a book naming names called no one would listen. And this is
another book you should buy. But here's the here's the backstory.
So I tuned in to C span is about a month and a half ago when her
book came out, and she was giving a lecture to one of the
some foundation or some group of people somewhere and it was I
was fascinated, because she was, she was really interesting.
She's, but she is the nerdiest woman I have probably ever seen
in my life, but somehow appealing and so weird
quote from your SMS text message to me, John. Where is it? This
gal Nicole, hot Ultra Nerd Girl real one.
And I put that in there for the following reasons. If anybody
follows high tech, if you listen to Veronica Belmont and all
these different women that are on these podcasts and pod shows,
they all call themselves nerd girls are geeks. You know, and
none of them are they you know, they play with a few gadgets and
they like an iPad and this woman is genuine, the real deal, man.
Surreal deal. She is such a nerd. It's unbelievable. So
anyway, so I saw her and I said what this she was, but I was
fascinated by her material. By the way. The most interesting
thing about she actually has a pro fed argument that's
interesting.
She has a nice rack.
I didn't notice that to be honest. I'm googling her. This
is our life. Okay. So she's just so I'm shocked to see you're on
again. And she's not only on but she's almost she's very
unprofessional because she didn't sign off right and a few
other things. But she's interviewing Mark Copalis. And
you've all seen him. He's the whistleblower who is an ultra
nerd. And he's a wank nerd. So we got this nerd as this
was a nerd So, it was nerd porn
going after each other. She's actually interviewing me. She's
on his side of the stick. And it was one of the best and you
should look at episode season was on season two was one of the
best interviews I've ever seen because it was no holds barred,
not trying to explain anything just going for it. So let's
listen to I got three clips from this. And let's listen to the
first one, which is Marco Markopoulos on bail outs,
says, as you mentioned, they consider themselves to be
sophisticated people should we have this differentiation
between sophisticated investors and und investors where the SEC
says For example, if you've got a net worth of more than a
million dollars, maybe 2 million now and you're making more than
$200,000 a year, you're on your own, there's really no consumer
protections or investment protections for you. You can
invest in all kinds of unregulated stuff. And everyone
else has at least some rudimentary protections,
although these things need reform as well. Should we even
have that separation?
No, because sophisticated investors just because they're
wealthy doesn't mean they know the financial capital markets
that well, they deserve a level of protection to they pay taxes,
they're citizens of this nation, we owe them a duty of
protection. That would be like saying our armed forces should
only protect people that are left making less than 200,000 a
year, right? They protect all of us in the armed forces. The same
with our regulators. They shouldn't be differentiating,
saying, Oh, you sophisticated wealthy investors, you're on
your own, it's okay for you to get wiped out. We don't care.
Well, someone should care. There are people to and they have
families, they pay taxes, they donate to charities, and they
serve in charitable organisations. Why won't we want
to protect those poor people, we in the Madoff victims have
gotten nothing but a bad deal from the government. They got no
protection, they got no sympathy. And now they're
getting clawbacks the people that got protection and bailed
out. But the big corporate entities, welfare is
far more sophisticated, and even more, right, and they got bailed
out.
So you're saying that the corporations are more
sophisticated, they get bailed out, you get people that are
making over 200,000 a year, they may have over 2 million in
assets, they get no protection, and anybody who's middle class
gets plenty of protection. Well, it turned out the middle faster
and get protected any better than the rich people in this
country did who did get protected? The corporation so
who does our country represent? Seems to represent the
corporations.
She should throw in Swingline once in a while. Swingline who
is
always going to but anyway, Mark Markopoulos is just a he this
guy could should be hitting the road as a politician because his
stuff is is very populous. It's very interesting. Let's play
number two, here we go
to the larger level of what you just talked about the unfairness
of these financial industry bailouts, the perception among
regular people that there's your free markets meaning failure for
for me, but not for the if you're big enough and
complicated enough? How can we put in place the right
regulations so that we don't have these bailouts next time
around that you could have financial companies go under
without bankrupting the rest of the financial system? What is
what is Bernie Madoff? In this whole tragic debacle, teach us
for five years from now 10 years from now,
I think the Bernie Madoff scandal teaches us that if
you're an individual, this country does not represent you.
It represents corporations. It's pretty clear. I know that the
American people are angry as hell because I go out and give
speeches, and I meet them. And the anger is palpable, right?
What
are they most angry about?
They're angry at the bailout. They don't understand why we
bailed out the auto companies why they weren't allowed to
fail. They don't understand why AIG was allowed to exist. Fannie
Mae, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, they don't understand these
bailouts. They don't understand why we rescued the banks. And
and understand why the banks are paying big bonuses. Why didn't
they pay back the bonuses that they earned in the last 10
years? Well and earn them they weren't real earnings.
Right? If the Madoff victims have these clawbacks where they
have to give back the money that they thought they had made, why
not? The financial institutions as well,
how fair isn't CEOs get to keep the money that they didn't
learn? And the Madoff victims have to give theirs back? How
fair is that? It's not fair. It just shows the inequality. And
who does government represent? It certainly doesn't represent
us taxpayers, right.
As famously once said, by an American and President the
business of America is business.
Yeah, I think it was Cleveland. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, so this guy
is on a roll. I'm watching this is really interesting to me. But
he's not saying anything that we don't talk about and that we
don't express it
but he's but he is the guy who busted made off and busted him
like years before a decade. That's a couple of years, a
couple of years.
And he's by the way, in his book, he apparently names they
talk about this. He names a bunch of people that weren't
brought up in the in the congressional hearings, but
there's a little bit of that as discussed here in the third and
last Clip,
do you you weigh out these very good suggestions? What's your
realistic assessments? I mean, from what you've seen in
Congress over the past year and a half now, nearly a year and a
half, since your exposure came to light, the regulatory bill
that's before Congress right now, this idea of systemic risk
regulator, Consumer Financial Protection Agency, do you think
that they'll get this right?
No, they won't. Because no one's been held accountable in
Washington, not one regulator, that one sec staffer has been
fired, they need to be publicly fired, these people should not
have their jobs. There's nothing in the current regulatory scheme
that needs to be saved. We need to tear down and build a new,
one computer system, new people that are zealous and properly
compensated to find fraud and prevent fraud and protect us
taxpayers. And right now, no accountability is zero.
So you're saying that even the SEC people that you mentioned by
name, Megan Chang, couple other ones, who your according to
yourself, and the Inspector General, dismissed these these
findings, many times over? They're still working at the
SEC,
no, most of them, many of them have left, but some have been
promoted. So if you're penalty for screwing up massively like
the Madoff case, as you get promoted or make more money, or
you go wrong, the private sector or you go to private sector take
a cushy partnership at a big law firm. Well, that doesn't seem
like punishment to me. I want accountability and government,
there's none. Your entire agencies that failed this
nation, not one person has been fired. How shocking is that?
should Americans be outraged? You bet they should be
hallelujah, hallelujah.
Well, that's being said on C span, too.
And there's another C span clip that I have to pull. Because,
you know, amidst all of the real news about flights not being to
fly in Europe, there's a there's financial hearings going on,
that are about this very topic. And the the chief of mortgages
of JP Morgan Chase, David Loman, was asked by, I think, Barney
Frank, that's why I gotta find this. He said. So if mortgage
borrowers you know, can't get a mortgage, who do they turn to?
So David Loman says, Come to me. minutes later, about 50
borrowers from the audience burst through the gate and
started surrounding him saying, Hey, I'm here and he ran away I
don't know if they actually aired that or not, but I have to
find that come to me and they came to him and he ran away.
Bastard another liar. Yeah, it's just unbelievable. Unbelievable.
And then of course the don't look over here. Nothing to see.
Look at back is this Oh, the SEC is suing Goldman Sachs no one's
gonna go to jail. It's like they screwed their customers so what
a bunch of rich people no one's no one's gonna they might pay a
fine 100 million dollar
fines but the fines will be well within it'd be like you paying a
parking ticket
100 million here Yeah, and let me tell you take a check. No
problem that's what it's gonna be and that's like even a hedge
fund people like Oh, we're so happy Goldman's get What are you
talking about? The scam is $23 trillion 100 million it's not
gonna make any difference. Just take their bids. Here's my check
personal check even
requested there's a study another another see here moment
was on CNBC, which a lot of people didn't get to see I think
we have we have this on the blog. You can read it. Look at
it. Apparently they brought some guy on some some financial math
guy wizard. He comes on and they put up a four quad box up with
our friend from the Council on Foreign Relations. Aaron,
Oh, of course.
The guy, these three people that three people talk and then it
gets that fourth guy sitting in the sidelines. He immediately
comes up with the car and they're talking about Goldman
Sachs. And one of them is Cramer. Jim Kramer and so the
guy says well now I guess I can talk because after all these
public relations people for Goldman Sachs are done. What's
already all you said? Cramer goes ballistic? I'm not a public
relationship over Goldman Sachs I missed it I'm offended I'm
offended and you make oh there we go again
the first secret about Goldman don't talk about Goldman you
still there?
Like I'm still here but yeah, we just crapped out for a second.
Okay, we're good. So anyway, I think it's a very funny clip and
you get a kick out of it but they threw him off but see
sights just throwing him your the way you would do this? I
think I mean, She says worth throwing you off the show. She
basically she's you have to be more polite. Once you argue on
the shows, but clearly was not arguing correctly.
You'll be you'll be very proud of me, John. I have a I have a
closing clip for today's show, which we'll play after we're
done. Have my friend Rachel Maddow? Oh, interviewing Janet
Napolitano. Oh, brother. And I mean, it's an eight minute clip,
we could actually go through that clip and deconstruct the
entire thing, but it would take us an hour to do it. But at the
very end, at the very end of this clip, Maddow actually
suggest Napolitano should be the incoming Supreme Court justice.
Oh, no, it was a dike fest. It was one way to play that little
bit. So fun is
for the protection of the public safety. There are other reasons
as well, but it was no surprise to me when I was governor of
Arizona that bias is
about the commemoration of the Oklahoma City bombings. Yeah,
there's a million speeches. Yeah. So here she comes
large law enforcement, the men and women who are charged with
protecting public safety oppose legislation like that. One last
question for you, Madam Secretary. And I'm sure you're
gonna dodge it, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Ready? Wouldn't
be wouldn't being on the Supreme Court be a great job?
Well, nice tribe, flattered to be to be focused on the job. As
you've already described, it's a big one.
Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Nepal. She
actually does a namaste bout as Napolitana with the end, she is
Secretary, second Madam Secretary. And she puts her
hands together, like Namaste, and says, Thank you so much for
being on the show. Thank you so much for being on the show. And
I'm
very, very busy person by definition. Thank you so much
for joining us tonight. Appreciate your time.
Thank you for having me.
I'll play that whole clip it disgusting. It's unbelievable.
When you hear the whole thing. You'll just go ha. Anyway,
that's coming up in a bit after we close it.
Yeah, I only have one clip, which is kind of interesting.
Because I you know, I don't know how anyone could I don't have a
thing that gets people's names, you know, because I can't
pronounce them apparently, but, but Blanche always seems to be
some sort of a name for like, yeah, it's just Well, I was
gonna say wife on a sitcom. Yeah. So here's a little clip.
Take your nose whistling. No, that was actually my my squeaky
voice when I okay. I don't know how that happened. The
chemtrails It's a strange sound. Anyway, so play the this thing.
And then I want to just make a comment
is short selling a derivative? Wait, wait, stop.
This is again on C span. And this is an interview that went
on it was quite interesting. It's another book that might be
worth looking at. It's called Don't blame the shorts. And this
is the author and they were talking about short selling and
how well you know it helps to balance markets and why it's
important and why people should do short sellers should never be
blamed for anything because they're not really doing
anything wrong. And Horowitz and I have discussed this particular
issue numerous times on DH unplugged, we have to
be able to speculate on a market going up and down. Right That's
it, it helps balance things that you know when something goes up
too much. And you know, the shorts will come in because they
think it's going up too much. It'll stabilise it actually
stabilises the market instead of something just going crazy and
then crashing, you know, so it's a very important function that
you actually have it and this guy explains it very well, this
book, but this little topic comes up which flabbergast the
guy when when the question is asked not to mention the fact
that the interviewer doesn't even know what short selling is.
Name is Blanche, Is she hot? Blanche Lincoln? I don't know
if she's you, but this listen, and you can go look her up while
you're playing
solid? No. Okay.
Short selling a derivative. And would you comment on Senator
Blanche Lincoln's proposal to prohibit all derivative
transactions?
Well, you know, proposing to eliminate all derivative
transactions is I think, in this day and age is like saying,
let's propose a law that says we can't drive we need whether we
like it or not, and whether we think people act responsibly or
not. The fact is, is that bank balance sheets, and what's on
the balance sheets of these banks? is almost the size of the
GDP. They are part of our economy. And I think disallowing
derivatives and just saying we're gonna ban it. You know, I
don't know how you would get anything done. I don't know how
we would issue treasury bills, for example, to finance all the
health care and other things that we want to use our money
for. Robert Sloane
is our guest tell us what s3 partners is.
Alright, that's that.
So I was actually flabbergasted I didn't surprise the beginning.
even more publicity that some senator from the United States
of America would make a suggestion that we ban all I
mean, essentially, it is based the dollar bill itself is a
derivative. It doesn't really have any paper. But the fact
that somebody would suggest this because she read something about
credit default swaps being the problem or something like that
indicates to me that some people are idiots and they shouldn't be
in office. Now, this woman is a Democrat in Arkansas. And
apparently, she's not going to be in office for much longer. I
did a little research and discovered that she's not well,
let me
just say if she's the kind of chick if she if she hovered,
she's hovering above you, and then pulls out the bobby pin and
the hair flows down. She could be pretty hot. So
I get that impression. But for you, yeah, cuz you like that
type. millfields. He's told me very MILFy. But the fact is,
she's obviously an idiot.
That's the best kind. What are you talking about? Please, vote
her out. Oh, my goodness. So the one thing that I mean, there's
only so much work I can do. Based upon the finances of the
show and other work that has to be done. I was not able to get a
video of the first American eyes debate over and get more nation
East United Kingdom as they are now moving into election season.
But I did see everyone going, Oh, Nick Clegg. Nick Clegg. He's
great. He's the guy he really did it. For me. Nick Clegg. Nick
Clegg is he's a new hero, Nick Clegg. It's time for change. So
they're doing this. This these election debates America
Americana style.
Yeah. There's they put three people up in front of the
audience American style. And it's I mean, it's more of the
real debates in parliament where they actually yell at each other
is more interesting than this crap.
Well, so so they're kind of doing it on an 80s game show
set? Yep. And so I see one article, which I kind of liked.
From the from the telegraph, Nick Clegg, the new Susan Boyle
and politics. So this guy is like, he's coming out of nowhere
and he's with the Lib Dems that he's awesome. Let me just give
you a little background on Nick Clegg. So he is the leader of
the UK Liberal Democrat Party. He supports the war in
Afghanistan. He's an elite his mother youlet. EULA Lee Herman's
founder vol Baca is Dutch. His father is the son of a half
Russian merchant banker. In fact, his dad is the chairman of
the United Trust Bank. This guy is so connected, connected to
Russian nobility. His great aunt was the Russian spy Baroness
Moura booth Berg burnings housing. She was the Mistress of
the British spy Bruce Lockhart. she spied for the Soviet Union
in the 20s and was described by MI five as a very dangerous
woman. I mean, this guy is so connected so he is a complete
elitist, and everyone's running away like oh, he's wonderful.
Nick Clegg, he's saying it and he's like this young dapper kind
of boy. So you watch Gitmo nation east? It's coming upon
you now. There it's a total it's a TV show. You're watching
you're not watching elections. You're watching a television
show. It's a reality show.
Jason Cameron a shoo in on this election? Just setting this guy
up for the next time.
No, I think Clegg is I think he's coming out of left field. I
don't know where he's going to be like the new hope. Sound like
anything you've you've seen happened recently in a country.
Oh, by the way, speaking of such American thinker had a great
post American thinker.com title of it Obama's missing
girlfriends and I really liked this in all the books written
about Obama even his own book, there's mention of you know the
many girlfriends and everything but where are they? Who are
they? Will the real girlfriends of Obama please step forward? No
one has ever spoken to or heard of or interviewed any of Obama's
girlfriends that's interesting. Angle is it's a good story it's
in the show notes at no agenda show.com which are packed once
again today. And we have a subscription box you can sign up
to will soon be sending them out via email is it can that really
happen soon. John, how are the signups going?
We need a new either they're not as strong as I hope I get. I'm
not sure what we'll do give us another week. Okay.
But anyway, I'm like, wow, that was an interesting angle. Mmm.
And if you know one of his group, they're
all dead. Yeah.
I wonder, wonder what happened to them? Couple of things just
to clear. This, by the way is a nice little note of hope, I
guess in a way. In the morning Adam Ajaan. I'm Dieter Archer, a
14 year old no agenda listener. My friend Kevin Porter turned me
on to the show about a year ago, I tried to get my dad to listen
to no agenda, but he thinks what you guys say is just crazy. I
want to tell you, in short, what I am learning
crazy, is playing clips and letting other people say it.
You're crazy. I want to tell you in short, what I am learning in
school about the Civil War this has been a topic for the past
three episodes of no agenda show. Basically, I am being
taught that slavery is the big reason why we had the war. My
book teaches me all about the compromises the north and the
south made to keep the Union together. But all the teachers
say is how the north and south were fighting overstates being
slave of or slave or free states. I asked my teacher of
the civil war could have happened because of Britain and
France. But she said it was not possible and did not happen. I
really liked I really liked no agenda. I always greet people
with an in the morning, but they don't get it. I was going to try
to start a podcast with Kevin wondering if we could be allowed
to greet each other with an in the morning and say stuff like
what you guys have in the jingles. Hope to do the head is
not in your future. Sincerely, Dieter, Archer, Dieter, Please
steal all of our jingles start your show, we'll promote it.
Our show is open source. Yeah, of course. So
that's the whole point you can make money off of it. We got no
agenda stuff.com Just in the summer, from time to time, help
us out. We don't want to have to manage any of that crap.
Yeah, no, that's what we're that's exactly what we're
saying. That's our thinking is this. And I've talked to people
about this. So well, you know, just begging for money. And
saying, you know, the great thing about begging for money,
which we have to do to support the show, but people do it
voluntarily and they give us they help us to contribute to
the, to the show, and is that I think just go steal the show,
run it on your own blog, take good copies of it and pass them
around. Because the we don't have we don't like we're not
counting numbers we don't need to know for for our Nielsen
rating. So we can tell an advertiser that well, we got
this many people listening today. We don't have to do any
of that. So the show can just go out too because the idea is to
get this show out and have people listen to it. All we're
trying to do here is get people to think critically. That's all
we That's our only goal and I'm still disappointed every so
often when somebody sends me here look at this and it's
either a look over there moment or some other piece of crap that
you know, it's like think about this think more critically. What
Why is this thing showing up on your doorstep? Is it or there's
there's some rationale they're trying to make you think a
certain way are you trying to trying to be most of the stuff
that goes on in the media is trying to trick you
think about this one April 13 and executive order from our our
president a blocking property of certain persons contributing to
the conflict in Somalia This is a presidential order basically.
We're Somali again, John,
in Africa. Then we have pirates
around there.
There's a pirate phenomenon. Yes. And and there's also a
there your your idiotic star.
Exactly. Thank you very much. You call it idiotic? But now the
president is if having 300 warships around the Stargate
wasn't enough now you can't you can't go there you can't take
money from there you can't support companies that do
business there stay away stay away because we're protecting
the star gate not reported at all by the way in the individual
ID
eaters dad thinks that the show's crazy
yeah, wait until that fucker opens not reported at all. Screw
you. Screw your door egg. Screw you. Okay, there's a couple of
links about the polish to to the head. Interestingly enough,
there actually was some good ground to air guidance systems
installed there when I think Putin flew there a couple of
months ago. And apparently it was either a removed or be not
turned on. When a known flight was coming in. This thing is so
so full crap. He's like, Oh, the crash because of the mist. And
now and now they can now the story is the plane clipped a
birch tree?
Oh, they changed it. Yeah, it clipped
instead of clipping in At first I said it clicked an antenna now
it no it clicked a birch tree. Is that big ass plane? Let me
see plane birch tree who's gonna win? clipped a birch tree
indeed. David the birch trees even grow there. I would think
so. Yeah, I don't know this cold. Yeah, no birch tree is a
cold weather tree. Okay. Does it snap easily? To hardwood? Okay.
So it might Oh, it's just like,
all right, sure. If there's a 50 foot wide birch tree, it would
probably have some you know, the plane would be at a
disadvantage.
coming up in May just y'all can read it, get ready for it. The
FEMA national level exercise and le 10. The exercise is meant for
preparedness and readiness. Tier one national level exercise as
per the national exercise programme, it is domestic
terrorism focused, guided by national planning scenario
number one, what could that be John? How about nuclear
detonation?
Is that what it is going to be?
Yep. guided by national planning scenario
works. When did that movie gonna premiere?
The movies? It was brilliant. Didn't you see it? It's
countdown.
Maybe you know, we've we've discussed this in the past. We
haven't done it so much recently. But every so often,
something comes out that's gonna get a lot of publicity, and
coincidentally promote a movie. Yep, here it is. Here it is.
This is a movie promotion.
This is promotion for the movie. And to make you afraid. That's
what it's all for. Just make you scared.
Go the movie. The movie in combination with the movie? I'm
sure you'll be shaking in your boots.
All right. See anything else? Speaking of movies, David that
was what's his name? The director of Avatar. Yeah.
Cameron, David Cameron, probably this probably brothers. In
Brazil, a judge on Friday overturned a decision that could
have delayed construction of a huge Amazon dam opposed by
environmentalists, Indians and the director of Avatar according
to Associated Press. James Cameron, he's got to do with it.
Well, he's memory we play that clip he's like I have so my fuck
you money now. I'm gonna go save the world. Stop the dams. The
dams are killing the world as a way is wrong with dams. And
Sigourney Weaver who starred in Avatar accompanied Cameron
doe. I wonder what's up with those two?
Of course, the visit was reminiscent of a 1989 trip by
Rockstar stink. who protested the same damn. Alongside Indians
with big plates in their mouths for visual effect? What is the
problem? Damn is for hydroelectric power?
Green Energy, man green energy. No, no,
but the environmentalists are against it. It's the the cause
of the damage the dam would cause
in Africa, Brazil, on Brazil, what damages are going to cause
I don't know
this isn't enough for Cameron to fly down their bone and
Sigourney Weaver. And talking to stinks friends to say whoa, we
have to stop this
party, some drinking club.
And President Obama dutifully released his tax returns, He
made 5 million bucks last year. And when what? I don't know if
it's specified that way,
how does it How does it understanding president makes 5
million bucks during his term in office?
Well, jointly, they reported their adjusted adjusted gross
income is 5,505,409. They paid $1.792 million in federal income
tax charitable contributions. 329 he did give away his $1.4
million Nobel Peace Prize I guess that was a part of it. But
still, it's a cool three and a half minutes or like 3 million
he made, which was book and stuff like that. And
he's way, way, way way. What was his charitable donations,
his charitable donations 329,001 when there
was the rest of the money from the Nobel Peace Prize, he would
have to declare that as income. Well, actually, I take it back.
He would you get the Nobel Peace, peace prize tax free, so
that wasn't even counted in his income. So he actually made six
plus million, and if he gave it away, he could probably in fact,
I'm sure he could deduct it, and the deduction would be more than
350,000 bucks. So something's wrong with these numbers. Not
bad for a senator Hmm. Former Senator Biden's income was
Robert Biden's income $333,000. Yeah, I think that's high for
him. That number having no money,
it's the magic numbers. 333,000
Well, that's actually kind of cool. No, I
like that. That's That's
Joe Biden should listen to our show.
It's a big fucking deal, man. No agenda. And then the FBI is
allowing the Kennedys to keep many of Ted's embarrassing
records private. How does that work?
There is do you talk about his pride those are private to begin
with, right? Those are just his diaries. I guess. I don't know.
Responding to a newspapers public records requests public
records request the justice department agency is in the
process of releasing 1000s of pages of files involving the
legendary mass Massachusetts democratic died of brain cancer.
Problem is some of the information from his storied
decades long political career is likely to upset the family
according to the FBI. That's why the feds are giving the Kennedy
clan a rare opportunity to raise objections before the public
disclosure of his exhaustive and secret FBI file. I guess that's
Chappaquiddick has something to do with that or who knows? Just
as interesting if you're if you're an elite, then you get to
do whatever you want. Sorry,
I missed your you built you just blanked out.
I said, if you're an elite, you get to do everything you want.
Yeah, obviously. Well, I think we're ready to have to wrap this
thing and get that DeLonge clip played. Yeah,
that's the Rachel Maddow clip. I do just want to say that
interesting observation that many of the big health insurance
companies it has now been revealed. Of course, these are
really financial companies. And they are directly related to all
of the big so called banks, investment banks, who don't
actually hold your money but invest money for rich people and
themselves. So they invest money, they take your money and
they invest it make more money out of that pay themselves
handsome bonuses, and when you need to pay your bill, they fuck
you. They are investing heavily in fast food restaurants. How
does that work? Yeah, I
heard this is hilarious. That's great. So you know, that's
probably a good investment for them. Yeah, it's
a great investment. It's just it's, it's a little bit crooked,
don't you think? Wait a minute. How does that work? Exactly.
Okay, so coming up the Rachel Maddow eight and a half minute
interview with Janet Napolitano who was dressed very, very
feminine ly for the occasion. It's just there's so there's a
connotation I don't care who they're sleeping with. But it's
just kind of interesting. And I will put the video in the show
notes that no agenda show.com So you can see that namaste bow
that Rachel does to Napoletana but just listen to this whole
thing you will the words you will say consistently are Oh,
brother. And well, we'll see how Asha Ash mageddon Does on
Thursday, John?
Yeah, yeah, that's probably still be going on. Yeah.
So coming to you from the hilltop Watchtower crackpot
command centre where they're still trying to mess with my
connection here in the People's Republic of Southern California.
Yay. My name is Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'll probably get
cut off in a minute. Anyway, I'm John C. Dvorak. We will
be back on Thursday with the early service on another edition
of the no agenda show right here at no agenda show.com.
Joining us now for the interview. I've been very much
looking forward to this discussion is Secretary of
Homeland Security. Janet Napolitano. Madam Secretary,
thank you so much for joining us. Well, thank you. As a US
attorney in Arizona at the time, 15 years ago, I know that you
were part of the investigation into the Oklahoma City bombing.
You'll be participating in the commemoration on Monday. Do you
feel like we approached the threat of domestic terrorism
differently now as a country than we did before that
incident? Well,
yes, in part because every time there is an incident and and
it's hard to describe something as horrific as the bombing of
the Murrah Building as an incident. It was an outrageous
criminal act. But every time one of those things happens, we
learn. We apply that in a law enforcement way. To the next set
of events, so, yes, experience does teach us some things and
unfortunately, the Murrah Building. Bombing taught us a
lot
in in terms of that, and I know that I'm raising a report for
which there was a lot of political heat. Your department
got some heat last year when you put out a report that said, the
current economic and political climate has some similarities to
the 90s when right wing extremism experienced a
resurgence. In terms of that report, in terms of your
government's advice and support to local law enforcement, how do
you advise them? And how does the country dealing with the
threat of domestic extremism now?
Well, what we do is we work with law enforcement to give them
information, information about threats, that we are seeing
information about trends that we are discerning so that they are
better prepared to protect public safety on the ground, and
we in turn receive information back from local law enforcement.
And so you know, we will provide information for example, we had
a recent case, where individuals were buying large amounts of
hydrogen peroxide to make explosives so it got into the
news. Well, I do advise local law enforcement to watch for
unusual purchases of hydrogen peroxide. That's the kind of
direct tactical information that we want to get into the hands of
law enforcement.
What were some of the things that law enforcement did with
some of the more extremist militia groups and other
domestic terrorist organisations as you defined them in the
report last year? What were some of the things that law
enforcement did right to essentially stem the growth of
those groups after Oklahoma City?
Well, I think, you know, in a way Oklahoma City was was such
an outrageous criminal act, that it in and of itself, it had an
effect on the growth of militia movements of armed violent
militia movements. And so we did see almost an immediate drop off
after 1995. And, you know, we've had militia groups, our militia
groups, from time to time throughout throughout American
history, and indeed, throughout the last decades, they seem to
kind of come in and come out as circumstances change. But prior
to 1995, the Murrah Building bombing, they were really a
rapidly growing phenomenon throughout the United States,
particularly in some areas of the states like Arizona, where I
was the United States Attorney, then they seem to have
dissipated. And now of course, recently, recent events show us
that we have some groups starting up again, considering
the threat of terror from abroad and Department of Homeland
Security's role in international counterterrorism. I know that
you're just back from Nigeria, the home country of the
attempted Christmas Day bomber, I know you were there to meet
with leaders of a whole host of African countries, about
boosting the international side of airlines security, what what
was accomplished there, what are what are leaders agreeing to to
try to fill some of those gaps.
Now, really, it's a it's an amazing global response to the
attempted bombing on Christmas Day where region by region
around the world, we are forging a consensus about information
collection, information sharing, passenger vetting, and improved
security at airports. I think people already will have seen
some of the things going into place in airports in the United
States. It's objectively better technology for discerning
someone who may be trying to bring explosives or other
material onto an aeroplane. But we're seeing the same kind of
response internationally. And it was particularly encouraging to
see it amongst the union of African nations over this past
weekend.
I was thinking about the preparing for this interview,
this chance to talk to you today and trying to narrow down all
the things that are in your purview as Secretary of Homeland
Security.
Good luck with that. Exactly.
I mean, there's something like 200,000 employees in this agency
22 agencies all brought under one everything from FEMA and
airline security and and h one and one and, and drugs and
immigration and all of these different things. I don't know
that you can actually answer this and still be politic. But
does the Department of Homeland Security makes sense that it's
one thing? I'm not sure that I'm not sure what the advantage is
that all of these things are in one agency now.
Look, it was born out of a 911 and I think it does make sense
but you have to kind of take all those 22 agencies and and boil
them down into what are the major missions that we are folk
Just upon so that we can really sculpt a vision for the entire
department. And so, when you do that, you know, we're really
focused on counterterrorism, we're focusing on securing our
borders, be they land, air or sea, we're focused on
immigration, immigration enforcement, even as we advocate
for reform of the immigration laws. We're focused on
protection of cyberspace. And I think we're the first US
department that's really singled that out, as, you know, kind of
the next wave of things that needs our focus. And then
finally, the ability to respond, prepare for and respond to
natural disasters. And when you when boiled down to those five
major functions, then you can really see how the department
and all of its various components make sense.
I could also see how if I had your job, I'd want to clone
myself five times. So one person that charged me to those things,
plus a spare to rest. on that issue of immigration, not in
your department of homeland security purview, because this
is at the state level, but your home state of Arizona this week
has passed a very, very, very strong anti immigration bill. I
think of it as the papers please bill. It compels police officers
to demand papers from anyone they reasonably suspect of being
an illegal immigrant. It's now a misdemeanour to not carry your
immigration paperwork with you at all times in Arizona. Didn't
you veto something like that when you were Governor there?
I think I vetoed things like that least twice. And I did
because first of all, immigration is primarily
federal, not exclusively, but primarily federally, federal.
But secondly, it doesn't allow law enforcement to focus on
where law enforcement needs to focus and to prioritise the way
law enforcement needs the ability to prioritise for the
protection of the public safety. There are other reasons as well,
but it was no surprise to me when I was governor of Arizona
that by and large law enforcement, the men and women
who are charged with protecting public safety, oppose
legislation like that. One last question
for you, Madam Secretary, and I'm sure you're gonna dodge it,
but I'm going to ask it anyway. Ready? wouldn't wouldn't being
on the Supreme Court be a great job?
Well, nice try, but flattered to be to be asked and but I'm
focused on the job I have. And as you've already described,
it's a big one.
Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, a very, very
busy person by definition. Thank you so much for joining us
tonight. Appreciate your time. Thank you for having me.