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It's the end of the week. And
once again, it's time for those

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two single guys to hang out and
talk together. Their

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relationship is completely
platonic. However, they do have

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their own favourite restaurant
that they call their place. It's

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no commercials, no music, no
jingles and absolutely no agenda

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overlooking the bay, the curry
condo. I'm Adam curry,

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and I'm on the other side of the
bay in the cheap seats. I'm John

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C. Dvorak.

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Hey, Johnny. How you doing,
baby?

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Yeah, there's that voice that
Calacanis likes. Ah,

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I gotta watch that. It's getting
too much of a habit. Hey, man,

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good to talk to you not like we
haven't been talking all week.

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But at least now, isn't it crazy
that we've seen each other at

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least? Was it three times this
week?

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We've had let's see every day
always roaming around. Yeah, we

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we've had dinner we hang out in
the stairwell together. And then

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what whatever that means. And
then and then we sit down to do

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the show and and we go to our
own individual homes.

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weird about that. It's crazy. So
the finance people out there

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should know that. The if you're
working at this pot show company

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the way you have meetings with
Adam curry, is that Adam

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apparently has been unable to
break the habit of imbibing in

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cigarettes. Yeah,

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well it's not cigarettes it's a
roll my own tobacco it's a

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little different.

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He rolls his own tobacco which
is which is old school my Yeah,

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my grandfather used to do that
with Bull Durham. And I think my

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dad even did for a while but
whatever the case is, it's a you

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know the kind of roll your own
and then but dead but since

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there's there's no smoking
environment, he goes into the

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stairwell. And so he smokes that
in there. So if you want to have

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a meeting with him, you can go
in there because there's you

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know, nobody knows, you know,
it's just like the stairwells.

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But actually quite

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interesting. Nice though,
because you get my undivided

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attention, don't you?

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You get undivided attention a
and it's also actually not a bad

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place to have a meeting, except
for the fact that places the

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stairwell is probably miked.

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You know, I've gotten so much
grief a first of all smoking

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there because we're on the
second floor. So there's two

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more floor floors below us. And
they don't like the smell and

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they don't like the noise and I
completely ignored.

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I was pumped they had some some
of those bubble wrap. Yeah, but

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it was not the but it was wasn't
a little bubble rush those big

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giant ones, like giant pillows.
And so and I love those things.

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I get them all the time. And if
you if you jump on one of them,

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it sounds like a like a shotgun
blast.

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It was no it wasn't a shotgun
blast, but it was pretty damn

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loud. When's the last time you
you pulled the trigger on a

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shotgun? Man that's a lot louder
than that.

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And I pulled the trigger on a
shotgun recently. Yeah, really?

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Yeah. No, I always you always
have the headphones on, you

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know?

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Where do you go shoot and

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last time I went shooting was
down. There's a there's a

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shooting place down south of Los
Gatos. It's kind of a high end

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place. I went shooting with
somebody, and who had a great

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collection of all these people
that they don't even like to

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talk about it but a lot of these
gun guys in Silicon Valley that

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have these cars and they got the
money. So they have these

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collections of some amazing
firearms that are extremely

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expensive. Yeah,

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like anywhere between
20,200 $1,000

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unblemished I don't remember
anything that quite that high.

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Some 40 fives that were just I
looked them up afterwards

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extremely expensive.

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You got any of your own
hardware.

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Also, you know I shot at cost
shool what's the is that? I

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think it's a consumer masu when
he says there's two there are

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two really powerful guns one was
the most powerful handgun in the

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world that could blow your head
clean off but it wasn't a 44

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Magnum it was this other thing
called a stool or merge call a

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fireball who makes it and and
it's extremely amazing to shoot

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it also makes a big fireball out
the front. That's for shooting

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bears. Who makes no no sorry,
who makes this a Russian

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Russian? I don't know who makes
it. I'd have to look it up. I

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bet getting caught off guard
here. But certainly anybody out

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there knows about guns knows
about this thing. And then there

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seems to be on the edge of that
was designed to be on the edge

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of like either firing this this
big bullet at high velocities or

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blowing up the gun and killing
you at the same time. Oh, that's

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so I spread out the edge of that
possibility. And then I shot an

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elephant gun.

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Holy shit that that must have
set you back.

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It was funny because you when
you shoot it you have a that you

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get all you put a big pat on
because this thing is your

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shoulder. Absolutely. Yeah,
yeah. Yeah, you put this huge

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thing on, and then you shoot the
thing. And if you can manage the

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stand up. You're a lucky lucky
camper.

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Oh shit who's calling you now?
Don't they know we're doing no

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agenda? Don't they know it's
Friday? I'm gonna hang up. No,

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no. If it's your wife, then pick
it up. It's okay. If it's not

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Meanwhile, we'll just we'll just
play a little bit of hold music

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while John is checking out who's
on. Maybe we'll get that out the

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back. Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

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I was. So anyway, let's get that
out if you can, but if you don't

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have to, I'm not gonna cut
anything out. That's work. Are

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you crazy? And okay, well
anyway, so. So anyway, so I shot

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this thing, and I actually hit
the target. And the guy says,

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believe me, which wasn't an easy
thing to do, because the hold

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this thing steady, because it
weighs like 100 pounds, you

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know, you're holding it, you're
just kind of hoping that as you

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as you pass across the target
with the muzzle that you might

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get lucky and hit this target.
I'll tell you this. I don't know

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you're always aware of something
when

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when I went to Iraq, and if I
ever told you the story, you

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were there for a whole week or
actually 10 days and the day

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before we were supposed to leave
the Dutchman Marines who had

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been with we know of course,
you're in the desert, you know,

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so you there's a there's a
brotherly thing that happens

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obviously, when you're in that
situation. And he said, Alright,

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guys, today, final day, we're
going to go and we're gonna go

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do something special. And they
had to land rovers and one of

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the Land Rovers had a little,
little cart behind it. A little,

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little trailer. And they took us
into, not far from the from the

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base camp, actually into the
desert. And turned out they took

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us to their practice shooting
range, they took the tarp off of

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this trailer. John, there were
like 20 AKs in there. They were

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tech nines. Oh, nice. hand
grenades. And I was amazed how

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hard it is to hit something with
a machine gun. It's really

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difficult. Yeah, so basically,
you know, what they do is they

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put spoiled water in water
bottles, they line those up. And

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you know, when you first you
tried in single shot mode, I'm

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actually I'm a pretty good shot,
actually single shot mode. I'm

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good and I can hit some stuff.
And then it's like, okay, that

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was fun now squeezes fucker off,
empty it. And okay, and like,

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and I didn't hit anything. It's
really hard to aim with a

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machine gun. It's not easy.

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I shot a Mac as a friend of mine
had had a he has a collection of

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gangster guns. And he had a Mac
1009 That little crazy little

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thing. He's got no targeting
IRA, and it just spits bullets

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every which way just it's a
worst dog of a gun. I mean, it's

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just as stupid as thing. It's
kind of fun to shoot. But

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anyway, back to my elephant gun.
So I shoot this elephant gun,

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right so bang hit this. Pipe
padding and all the rest of it.

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The next day. My entire chest
was one huge brew. Yeah. Oh,

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yeah. Oh, and that was through
the padding. I mean, it was just

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like I look I wish I get out of
taking a shower look in the

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mirror, go holy crap, hold right
side of my, my buys a big giant

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bruise from this thing.

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I gotta tell you, I own a couple
of guns, but they're mainly

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collector's items. And although
the I have a side by side 20

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gauge, which has been in the
family for a long time, and I

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have shot that and I still have
ammo for it. But I've been lucky

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enough to go out with a couple
of folks in England, which of

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course, you know, quintessential
hunting, right? These guys

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really know. I mean, you got gun
clubs that are just

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unbelievable. And, you know, the
way they treat these shotguns it

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you know, it's like, here's my
baby. And you know, and you

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don't want to put your finger on
anything. But exactly. Here's

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where you hold it because you
could ruin some of the of the

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beautiful detailing on the on
the side of it. And yeah, it's a

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great experience. But I have to,
I have to admit, after only an

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hour of shooting, I was hurting.
I was really, really hurting my

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shoulder. And same thing you
know, you wake not as bad as the

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elephant gun, I'm sure but you
wake up and you definitely have

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a bruise.

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Yeah, it's one of those things
you Yeah, it's it's, it hasn't

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they have kicks a lot of them.
Some of them you know, if you

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have your whole shotgun, right,
you shouldn't really get too

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beat up by it. But anyway, so
what else is going on this week?

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Well, we had a let me think,
well, we actually had a quick

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chat in the stairwell today. And
it was like, Oh, we got to talk

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about this. Talk about that. And
let me see you lost the notes is

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Oh,

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yeah, yeah, no, and now come up
with them. And of course,

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they'll be meaningless in about
two or three more days.

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I remember what we were talking
about. We were talking about

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CDI not wait, stop, stop. Let's
stop to stop everything. I know

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exactly what we should talk
about your last entry into the

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United States. Oh, yes.

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Oh, okay. Good. Yeah. Well, it
was it was new this time. And I

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did talk about it briefly on the
daily source code, but I didn't

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get into into everything. So
here I am. I go, you know, de

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plane. I line up and it's funny
because I was you know, I

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avoided the woman as you
suggested, there was a woman, a

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female Customs Border Patrol
agent. I avoided her and

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unfortunately, the one that
opened up looked like a really

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cranky guy. So I walked up to
him and said, Hey, how you

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doing? Good afternoon or good?
Yeah, good afternoon. Top of the

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morning. Gov Top of the morning.
How you doing? They always say,

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How long are you gonna be here.
So then I put that up and put

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down my passport, he sees that
I'm American. And he goes to the

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computer. And uh, once again,
that bewildered look and the

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tap, tap, tap tap that this guy
did something different, he

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picked up the phone. And he
called someone, and this other

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guy came over. And now two of
them are in this little cube

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cubicle looking at looking at
the screen, and it Gosh, it's so

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it's so annoying that you can't
see what's happening on the

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screen because they have those
anti glare filters. And, and

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then the other agent says, he
says, baggage check. And so the

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guy writes down BG on my customs
form. And then he crosses it out

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by his own accord, they get the
other guy left, and he puts an M

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on it, which and I know what
that is, by the way, I'll get to

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that in a second. So of course,
go get my bag. And then I walk

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up to the to the officer and I
said that I think I'm good for a

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secondary, I got another W
another upside who actually

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said, seeing if you if I could
get a reaction if it was

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supposed to be a WR Nm. And it
said, so I'll just go over to

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the C area because I know the
whole drill now he's like, hey,

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it doesn't happen often. This is
before I get to the secondary

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screening. And so yeah, this is
like the eighth time says, you

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know, maybe your passport number
is similar to something else.

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That's what it could be, you
should ask the officer. So,

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Officer Okada. I think he might
have been Hawaiian, maybe sound

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he look look like he might might
have been from Hawaii. And he

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was kind of slow. And he was
asking me questions. And and he

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was going, huh, it says, And he
started asking an array of

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really interesting questions.
And he got a new email. I'm

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really friendly. I'm telling him
about, you know how this has

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happened before. And he says,
oh, wait a minute, I can't log

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in on this machine. We can
actually log in ourselves,

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please come over to this side,
where the other guy was still

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logged in or something really
unprofessional stuff. And he

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says, Okay, do you have any
other ID on you? And I go

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through the whole thing again,
so well, you can ask for a

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business card. Here's my
business card. Do you have

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another picture ID? I said? No.
All I got is my my Dutch

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driver's licence, which works
all over the world. And he said,

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Yeah, you don't have a
California driver's licence.

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Now. I don't. Any other picture
ID No, no, but here's my pilot's

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licence. I love pulling that one
out. I

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love I wonder, I wonder if a
Costco card would count. Does

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this does have a

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picture on it? Yeah. Oh, really?
I gotta get one. I gotta get a

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Costco card. And he says, Have
you ever been to Nebraska? Now?

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This is the first time I've got
a question like this, right? I'm

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like Nebraska wild? Yeah. Like,
no. Do you know, Laura Rand, who

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has a who has a private
aircraft? Like? No, I don't

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think so. Actually, I was I was
a little stupid er than that. I

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said, Well, you know, I fly
myself. So navy. I've

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never met her in the bar. Yeah,
in jail.

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And he was actually was quite
friendly. And it's funny,

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because this is he's tapping
around in this thing. He's like,

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he started telling his own life
story to me, which I found

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pretty incredible. He says, you
know, I'm actually I got into

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this a couple of years ago,
because there was this, I used

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to work for Honda USA. And I
found out that the management

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was skimping on security
measures to save money. And I

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was a whistleblower. And I
always wanted to be in law

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enforcement. I'm like, all he
needs now is a big bunch of

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keys. You know, it's like, this
is the perfect guy for this job.

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And, and I said, you know, I
would really appreciate it if

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you could, you know, if you
could tell me a little bit about

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what's what's going on, because
not knowing what's happening is

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pretty much the worst thing. He
says, Well, you got a match. And

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of course, now that now I know
that's what the M stands for.

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And I said, Well, what do you
mean? He says, Well, we are

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looking for someone who had and
it goes in this order. He says

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it goes last name, first name,
birthdate. He says, we get three

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matches, we get curry, Adam, and
then your birthdate or something

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very close to it. And so well,
you know, I don't know what to

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tell you, man. But every single
time I'm I'm lead through and he

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says, Well, let me go check with
the TL. And I'm like, oh, that

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you must meet the team leader.
says yeah, yeah. So you go to

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the team leader is the only one
apparently who can log in deeper

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into the system? And he says,
oh, yeah, there's all kinds of

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notes about you and all kinds of
entries. Is it yet? Well,

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clearly, that you're just
matching very close to someone

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that we're looking for. And

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that may stop you here. So in
other words, what you're saying

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is that cuz you never mentioned
this part. TL is a code word

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that you could probably throw at
people like for anyone trying to

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get, you know, getting hassled,
they say, Can I can? Can I talk

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to the TL

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Exactly. In fact, he suggested
he said next time, this happens

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when you walk up to the first
agent, just ask for a TL. And

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the TL can can can go right into
the screen and we'll see all of

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this information. So that's
actually a really good thing.

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But what is disconcerting is
that there's apparently an Adam

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curry out there, who they're
looking for it And and actually

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a number of listeners to the
daily source code have done some

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searches and they've come up
with with, there's one guy who's

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at Adam curry.net. And no one
really thinks he's the right

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guy. But there's another one
that there's a closed off

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MySpace page. Meaning you have
to befriend the guy first, and

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he has to befriend you. And it's
a scary goatee wearing crazy

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looking guy, as he as far as
Braska. Yes. Braska Is he your

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age though? Is he older? No,
he's 23 Now that's what's kind

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of freaky now 2343 Remember that
could be No, it's still both

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ends with a three. Of course I
look 23 So you can only imagine

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that that's there's some
confusion there. But we know

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this whole ordeal John took an
hour and a half the longest I've

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ever been at this guy was also
just really really slow. So I

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guess the next time I come in,
I'll just try the TL thing if I

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can talk to the team leader, but
in the meantime, I'm going on a

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quest I gotta find out who this
Adam curry guy is in Nebraska.

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It's bugging me. Yeah,

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I would think so.

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Interesting. And yeah, sorry.

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At least they didn't shoot you

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know they're not gonna shoot me.
But I did. I did have I was glad

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that they didn't open up my bag.
Because I know that you know,

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Patricia my wife I love her so
much. She she had done it she

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does something I always tell her
not to do she'd put a whole

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bunch of food in my bag like
cheese and stuff all the stuff

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you're not allowed to take take
into the country. Oh, that's

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funny. Yeah, they didn't open it
up though. So I've been enjoying

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some nice Gouda cheese here
during my stay.

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You know we do have Gouda cheese
here in the Bay Area we can get

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I

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you know what, John? The way you
are with wine. I am with cheese.

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I am I have to say a cheese
expert.

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Well I can be you where you get
your cheese in in England.

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That is well sometimes we're
lucky and we can find it at

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Sainsbury's. They might have a
good we've done a lot of

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experimentation because we
really into the aged Dutch

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Gouda. So not the really really
old age stuff, but you have to

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have like, medium matured. And
sometimes you can find a cheddar

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that comes kind of close. But by
and large Hey there it is. By

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and large Hold

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on a second by doing that the
date. Okay, go on

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when I said it. Yeah, okay, by
and large marks and sparks Marks

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and Spencer will have something

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about Harrods, don't they? They
will ask them I was the head is

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huge. They do like a room of
cheese. Yeah,

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they do. And we've done some
teas chased at tea, some cheese

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tastings there. Because he
they'll do that for you. And

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I'll let me have a little bit of
that. Let me try that some of

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that we've gotten some fantastic
Gouda from Harrods but Harrods

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is in the city and we're you
know we're we just live in

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Guilford it's sticks and we are
you know big consumers of cheese

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we still have from Christmas. My
sister Willow in Italy gave us

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this huge chunk of parmesan
cheese which is ah man. I mean I

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can

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great primary John from Italy it
bought in Italy where you can't

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have that stuff that you know
people don't realise when you go

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to a deli in Italy they'll have
the whole place will be filled

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with giant things that parmesan
and there are like 100 different

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versions of it. I mean different
vendors.

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I mean what you do is it's so
good you just wind up you know,

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like what can we make tonight
that we could put parmigiana

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and, and I find myself actually
breaking off a hunk and just

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eating it it's

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the same thing but that's you
can't actually that type of

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parmesan that really good.
Excellent primer John. I don't

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think I've ever had it in this
country. I just don't think they

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bring I don't

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I don't think you can get it. It
has to almost grow and mature in

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Italy otherwise it just doesn't
work. You know, it's something

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about it's like it's like great
mozzarella is the same thing. I

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find great Mozzarella in Italy.
You just can't fit well

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actually. There was a small
place in New Jersey run by

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Italians Of course. That came
pretty close.

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There is a Texas of all places
in Dallas, Texas, there's a

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place that makes cheeses outside
of the that little funky little

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area I can't think of the name
of it. Deep Ellen it's in the

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deep Belen area and there's a
cheese maker in there then they

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make a buffalo mozzarella the
real stuff from water buffalo

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milk. And it's absolutely one of
the best cheeses I've ever had

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in the country. But yeah, it's
hard to come by but now we're

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talking about food. I want to I
might as well bring up this have

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you noticed and I was just I
don't know why this came to mind

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but it did. Why it came to mind
because I'd made some tea

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earlier and then I just drink in
it after I put the milk in

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there. The bags are in there and
I'm like you know took the bags

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out with it. I when I was at the
London book fair I was a number

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of years ago when the first time
I saw this and then I was

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hanging out with some some Brits
that are in the that were

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working for Tech TV and I saw it
again which is the the the

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making of T shirts Well, where
the milk is in the cup? Yeah,

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it's tea bags put in and then
the hot water is put on top of

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that with the milk already in
it.

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Well actually, the way you're
supposed to do it, I've been

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told is you first put the sugar
in, then you put the tea bag in,

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then you put the milk in, and
then you pour on the water.

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That's the way I've been told.

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This is a dis dis is not the
right there's no way that that

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could be an appropriate way to
make tea. It did it never will

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brew

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right? Well, it's not the way I
like to make tea. But it's I

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have heard that you certainly
need to put sugar first, then

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milk, maybe

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you're beside the point. Once
that oil of the milk is inside

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the tea that you can't get
penetration you can't get the

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kind of extract penetration you
want I'm saying is that you get

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this oily coating on top of
those tea leaves has got to

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prevent it. But the proper
extraction of the tea elements

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fraught with the boiling water
just doesn't make any sense that

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you would do this or seen it
before. Some recently, I was

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told had something to do with
acidic quality of something I

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don't exactly remember what

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somebody's gonna have to give us
a lowdown on. It's only recent

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that I've ever seen this. I've
been going to England for 30

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years. And it's not like I've
ever seen this before. And I'm

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seeing you and I'm seeing you,
but but dislike. And I have to

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say this. I'm not seeing it
being done by anyone over the

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age of 30.

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I'll say one thing that really
bugs the hell out of me.

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Americans who walk around the
office with a huge oversized mug

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of tea with a tea bag hanging
out that pisses me off.

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Why?

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Because it's literally stupid.
It's lame. You don't leave your

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tea bag in it and you'll see
women doing it more than men

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actually. And it's kind of like
this. It's almost like a like a

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yuppie thing but it is so
incredibly lame. How can you

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walk around with a tea bag still
in and while you're drinking it

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like it's supposed to get better
with it. As you get to the

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bottom? It's it makes no sense
to me why people do this. You've

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never seen her no,

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no. Well, I mean, I'm sure I've
I may have but I haven't really

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noticed it and I've not been as
annoyed.

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Oh, you are Oh, big annoyance.

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I don't think it's that big any
worse than the guy with the big

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giant oversized Maga coffee
just. Yeah.

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How about this TL reports. By
the way, I'm drinking some

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Yorkshire I'm sorry, Sainsbury
red label that you recommend

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Patricia gave.

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Recommended as anything good. I
just recommend that.

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It's not bad. I'm liking it.

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A lot of people do like it. I've
had it numerous times. I was

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going to move some from me so I
can remind myself when you

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switched over to the PG Tips
gold,

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or you should have told me I
have a whole bunch. I'll bring

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something Monday for

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you. Okay, well, I'll be back on
Tuesday. You won't be there. No,

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I'm gonna be

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in LA on Tuesday. I'll be in
Wednesday, Wednesday, I'll bring

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it in.

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I'll bring it whatever. But
anyway, the point is, is that

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I've really pretty much switched
over to PG Tips. Gold, which is

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there. Yeah. Now I'm 50 cents.

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What I'd like you to just now
that you had a chance to see a

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chart, what do you think of my
new setup that I've been harping

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on? I'm so proud of I showed it
to you today at the office. Have

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you talked about this on the
daily source code?

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Well, yeah, to a certain extent,
but you know, I don't want to

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bore people with with the
technicalities of it. So I

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thought maybe it'd be fun if you
could just tell people your

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impression you said something

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done. Even though you know,
we're just to the eavesdroppers

433
00:23:32,489 --> 00:23:35,189
out there who really care. I
don't know how many there are

434
00:23:35,219 --> 00:23:41,309
someone shares it he's managed
to put a number of software

435
00:23:41,309 --> 00:23:48,059
packages in a linked manner that
turns his Apple Macintosh annual

436
00:23:48,059 --> 00:23:50,279
you can do every once a while,
you know, I've seen rant million

437
00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:52,109
ways you could do that you can
get cakewalk, you can do this

438
00:23:52,109 --> 00:23:54,569
you can do that. I have never
seen anything quite as

439
00:23:54,569 --> 00:23:58,079
spectacular as this lash up,
which includes a little piece of

440
00:23:58,079 --> 00:24:01,199
hardware that you got from some
German company, which is your

441
00:24:01,199 --> 00:24:05,009
unique device to say the least.
And you're also using software

442
00:24:05,009 --> 00:24:07,409
that not a lot of people are
aware which is also German,

443
00:24:07,409 --> 00:24:11,219
almost everything you've got is
German and then you've managed

444
00:24:11,219 --> 00:24:14,849
to hook it all together and some
virtuals sense and it's it's

445
00:24:14,849 --> 00:24:19,889
it's a phenomenal lash up maybe
the best I've ever seen for a

446
00:24:19,889 --> 00:24:23,999
portable lash. I mean it's
beyond anything, anything

447
00:24:23,999 --> 00:24:25,469
commercially available. It's
amazing

448
00:24:25,499 --> 00:24:27,929
what was what was funny what you
said today when I was showing it

449
00:24:27,929 --> 00:24:31,499
to you because essentially what
I you know, the the big deal

450
00:24:31,499 --> 00:24:34,469
about this is that you know now
I have like a tactile control

451
00:24:34,469 --> 00:24:37,949
over the software because I'm
using the fader Fox, external

452
00:24:37,949 --> 00:24:40,979
midi controller so I have real
faders and they don't do

453
00:24:40,979 --> 00:24:43,979
anything. They don't control any
actual volume other than

454
00:24:43,979 --> 00:24:47,249
controlling the software that
controls volume. So I have these

455
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:50,309
faders that go up and down and
have a cross fader which allows

456
00:24:50,309 --> 00:24:54,389
me to with my thumb kind of
switch between you know views so

457
00:24:54,389 --> 00:24:58,559
I can go to a like a cart deck
if you will, so can fire off

458
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:02,879
different do For an audio files,
and you said, All you need now

459
00:25:02,879 --> 00:25:06,239
is like the cymbals between your
knees in like a one man band,

460
00:25:06,239 --> 00:25:08,819
you know, I got the drum pumping
on my foot, I've got the cymbals

461
00:25:08,819 --> 00:25:12,629
between my knees, and it's true,
but it is it's working. And I've

462
00:25:12,629 --> 00:25:16,169
been doing these live shows,
which, you know, to some degree

463
00:25:16,169 --> 00:25:18,509
or, you know, it all depends on
how good the content is,

464
00:25:18,539 --> 00:25:22,829
obviously, but the the ability
to, you know, to just bring

465
00:25:22,829 --> 00:25:26,879
someone live, it's it is exactly
what I've always wanted, I have

466
00:25:27,239 --> 00:25:33,179
a radio studio in one box on my
computer, it has taken me years

467
00:25:33,179 --> 00:25:34,229
to get this far. And I'm

468
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:36,360
just you claiming it took you
three years to put this

469
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:37,620
together? Well, and it's

470
00:25:37,620 --> 00:25:40,650
not just understanding how to
put it together. But it's really

471
00:25:40,650 --> 00:25:43,980
been a combination of the
hardware and the software all

472
00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:46,710
coming together in this
wonderful Nexus and it's just

473
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:50,850
barely making it, you know, the,
the processor is really taxed.

474
00:25:52,410 --> 00:25:56,460
But to do it without any latency
or almost zero latency. In other

475
00:25:56,460 --> 00:26:02,220
words, when I speak, I'm hearing
my voice slightly delayed in my

476
00:26:02,220 --> 00:26:06,000
headphones, but I am hearing the
full output signal including all

477
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,670
the processing, so I know what
people are going to hear when

478
00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:10,890
they listen to it at home. And
that of course, because what

479
00:26:10,890 --> 00:26:15,090
people don't realise is and I
think in podcasting, people

480
00:26:15,090 --> 00:26:20,640
don't realise this, that there's
more to it than just okay, I got

481
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,040
a microphone, I can play
something, it's that mix, you

482
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,420
know, I'm literally creating an
end mix while I'm doing all of

483
00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:29,760
this and that and that's always
been that's what I would have

484
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,470
done on my life, you know, is I
want to create this one sound of

485
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:37,020
everything that all kind of
flows together, and you have to

486
00:26:37,020 --> 00:26:40,230
be able to manipulate the the
levels even it's minut. But

487
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:41,820
still, those levels are very
important.

488
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:45,750
Yeah, no, I think you've nailed
it. I mean, I that But listening

489
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:49,230
to just you know, running
through it. It has a slick

490
00:26:49,230 --> 00:26:53,670
professional studio sound. That
sound indicates you got two or

491
00:26:53,670 --> 00:26:57,540
three engineers working on it. I
mean, it's just amazing. No, I'm

492
00:26:57,540 --> 00:26:57,990
saying

493
00:26:58,170 --> 00:27:01,860
so. We're gonna patent it. The
Absolutely.

494
00:27:01,860 --> 00:27:04,500
It's a patentable thing, I think
because I sent you an email. I

495
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:08,340
don't know if you got it. Yeah,
I did. was about to pat and

496
00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:11,850
somebody sent us a note on Yeah.
And as soon as I saw that, it's,

497
00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:15,030
it's unbelievable that we're
gonna patent everything. We

498
00:27:15,030 --> 00:27:15,240
might

499
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,780
as well. We could be rich from
the show, John. Oh, we have to

500
00:27:18,780 --> 00:27:20,280
do is patent the process.

501
00:27:20,550 --> 00:27:23,820
It's, it's doable. Yeah. If
there's something unique about

502
00:27:23,820 --> 00:27:25,020
it hasn't been done before.

503
00:27:25,710 --> 00:27:28,440
So you've done anything else
this week? The outside of you've

504
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,110
been in the office a lot,
actually. Is that just to please

505
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:35,160
me? Yeah. Ever. Only when I'm in

506
00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:39,750
the office, I go on the ice
because we're trying to get some

507
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:44,550
stuff done. And I can actually
sometimes get more work done in

508
00:27:44,550 --> 00:27:46,890
the office, but I can't do in
the time with that office. That

509
00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:51,180
is it's noisy. And when the
programmers in the afternoon

510
00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:53,280
about for some reason, about two
or three o'clock in the

511
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,830
afternoon, they start getting
boisterous. It's really weird,

512
00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:58,650
good word and boys. And once in
a while today, it wasn't the

513
00:27:58,650 --> 00:28:00,930
case. They were all I don't know
where they were. But Sunday's

514
00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:04,050
programmers are extremely noisy
and they start yucking it up and

515
00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:06,750
they make a lot of racket. Yeah,
but they're having a good time.

516
00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:09,240
Because they seem to be Yeah,
maybe they should be programming

517
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,080
more than having lessons.

518
00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:14,700
What am I saying? Oh, you know
what you mean, luckily,

519
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:17,310
only one programmer in that
place listens to this show.

520
00:28:17,550 --> 00:28:20,550
It's too bad that that you
weren't in the office this

521
00:28:20,550 --> 00:28:26,580
afternoon, because there was an
amazing guy. His name is Steve

522
00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:30,090
spinner. And I don't know if you
know his name. He has been

523
00:28:30,090 --> 00:28:33,960
around the valley for a long
time, I think is his wife is a

524
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,010
partner at one of the big law
firms here in the Valley. And

525
00:28:38,370 --> 00:28:40,530
Ron knows, and he's had dinner
with him a couple of times.

526
00:28:40,530 --> 00:28:44,610
Yeah, he's affiliated with
Kleiner, Perkins, etc. But he is

527
00:28:45,030 --> 00:28:51,480
he's been working in the Obama
camp. In fact, I think that he I

528
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,930
don't know the exact number, but
I think he's responsible for

529
00:28:54,930 --> 00:28:59,370
raising several million dollars
worth for this campaign, which

530
00:28:59,370 --> 00:29:01,890
is, you know, and I said, Oh,
you're, you're a bundler. He

531
00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:05,010
said, Oh, God, you know, the
word, I hate that word so much,

532
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,860
because that's a bundler is so
so the maximum amount you can

533
00:29:10,860 --> 00:29:15,210
donate to a campaign, in fact,
it's $2,300. You can do it, if

534
00:29:15,210 --> 00:29:17,670
someone's running. I'm not quite
sure what the rules are. But the

535
00:29:17,670 --> 00:29:21,030
maximum that gets is 4600. In
Obama's case, because you can

536
00:29:21,030 --> 00:29:24,630
donate to the primary and
whatever. So, um, there's a

537
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:28,470
limit to it. So when you hear
someone say, you know, the

538
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:32,220
fundraiser, you know, raised a
million dollars, what that means

539
00:29:32,220 --> 00:29:38,520
is, someone stood at the door,
and took $2,300 checks from each

540
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,860
individual that came in because,
you know, legally, you just

541
00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:43,920
can't give out any more money.
And you know, and so that's

542
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,620
called bundling. And then you
hand off this bundle of checks,

543
00:29:46,620 --> 00:29:49,110
and you know, that amount. So if
you if you get 1000 of them,

544
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:53,520
then you have, you know, $2.3
million and that's how this

545
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,880
money is raised. It's not like,
you know, some, some person can

546
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,190
write a million dollar check,
which I think by the way, a lot

547
00:29:59,190 --> 00:30:02,730
of people don't know know that
that works that way here in the

548
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:08,130
in the United States. And he had
some fascinating, absolutely

549
00:30:08,130 --> 00:30:11,760
fascinating stories to tell. And
I asked him point blank, I said,

550
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,090
you know, so are you guys
worried about about the super

551
00:30:15,090 --> 00:30:18,420
delegates who of course have the
opportunity to vote for

552
00:30:18,420 --> 00:30:21,420
whichever candidate they want,
regardless of what what took

553
00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:25,800
place in the primary? He said
absolutely not Obama is in it's

554
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,630
done. He even expects that
Hillary will drop out in a week

555
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:31,260
and a half.

556
00:30:33,030 --> 00:30:35,760
After the Ohio, Ohio,

557
00:30:36,990 --> 00:30:40,890
he says Ohio, he's pretty sure
though, when he says Texas still

558
00:30:40,890 --> 00:30:43,380
could be a close call, but he
has the feeling that she'll drop

559
00:30:43,380 --> 00:30:46,560
out either right before or right
after, and he was giving me all

560
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,460
these all these quotes from
mine. If you saw the debate last

561
00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:50,820
night,

562
00:30:50,849 --> 00:30:53,759
yeah. Well, I heard I saw the
transcript. I didn't see the

563
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:54,299
debate.

564
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:56,580
You really miss a lot of
context.

565
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,210
You know, I agree with that. But
I don't have time to watch this

566
00:31:00,210 --> 00:31:05,010
crap. So I mean, if I'm My
money's on McCain anyway, so why

567
00:31:05,010 --> 00:31:07,050
should I care? No, hold

568
00:31:07,050 --> 00:31:11,250
on a second, because you still
wrote down? And you predicted

569
00:31:11,250 --> 00:31:15,990
that it would be Hillary and she
would ask Obama to be VP?

570
00:31:16,259 --> 00:31:19,619
Yeah, I'm sticking with that.
Now, it's a long shot. It's,

571
00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:23,430
it's a real long shot. And I
said, so who's going to be the

572
00:31:23,460 --> 00:31:27,060
Veep? They said, I don't know.
We'll probably get some older

573
00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:30,840
white guy from the south. And I
said, How about Ron Paul?

574
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,770
You never let up but like that
consistency.

575
00:31:34,890 --> 00:31:40,320
He did not even not think that
was funny, by the way. He said,

576
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,920
you know, Ron, Paul's anti
Israel. I said, I don't know

577
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,820
about that. Man. I

578
00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:47,820
don't think that's true. I think
that's just a Ron Paul has been

579
00:31:48,090 --> 00:31:49,080
besmirched.

580
00:31:49,380 --> 00:31:51,960
Yeah. Well, it was days, that
whole newsletter thing that has

581
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,450
been popping up for 10 years. So
I didn't get into it with him.

582
00:31:54,450 --> 00:31:57,900
But I did. I it was it was
pretty awesome. He had he had

583
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:00,510
some really, really good
stories. And he said, you know,

584
00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:03,510
Clintons. They've been invited
to the meeting anyway, didn't

585
00:32:03,510 --> 00:32:06,270
miss anything. I would have
totally introduce you to this

586
00:32:06,270 --> 00:32:10,470
guy. He's awesome. And he's
clearly well connected.

587
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,130
And everybody, Kleiner Perkins.
Is there a bunch of the climate

588
00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:16,050
lab? You don't realise a lot of
these are some of the richest

589
00:32:16,050 --> 00:32:18,780
people in the world over there.
And they're, for the most part,

590
00:32:18,810 --> 00:32:21,150
not all of them. But there's an
awful the most active

591
00:32:21,150 --> 00:32:23,970
politically active people over
there all Democrats. Yeah.

592
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,870
Yeah, except for Ray Lane, who
was who was our major guy at

593
00:32:27,870 --> 00:32:32,160
Kleiner Perkins. He is a gun
toting card carrying Republican

594
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:32,730
for sure.

595
00:32:33,329 --> 00:32:35,729
He's one of the few. I think
he's

596
00:32:35,730 --> 00:32:36,630
the only one.

597
00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:40,860
Yeah, no, the rest of them are
all the big time, Denver. Big,

598
00:32:40,890 --> 00:32:43,260
you know, the, you know, a lot
of people don't realise they're

599
00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:45,210
so well, you know, the
Republicans represent the rich,

600
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:49,590
rich, super hyper rich people I
know are all Democrats. Yep. And

601
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:52,560
you go to the du Pont's the
Hirst's, all these people that

602
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,820
have like tonnes of money, are
all Democrats. And I have my own

603
00:32:56,850 --> 00:33:00,240
kind of basic theory about it.
Let's hear out which way I don't

604
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,660
want to destroy the Democrats.
But it's because they want to

605
00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:06,210
keep every because the Democrats
are really like status quo

606
00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:08,700
committee. They don't want to
bring anybody up and make them

607
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:12,000
rich. The Republicans want to
make everybody rich, the

608
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,150
Democrats don't because the
Democrats real voting base are

609
00:33:15,150 --> 00:33:18,090
people with no money. That's
where they get all their votes

610
00:33:18,090 --> 00:33:20,010
from and they want to keep them
there. Because if they got

611
00:33:20,010 --> 00:33:23,940
money, they're gonna switch
parties. Yeah. And so so it's

612
00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:25,950
just like, you know, it's a no
win situation. That's why I

613
00:33:25,950 --> 00:33:29,160
think that party has to be
dissolved. The Democratic Party?

614
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:31,830
Yeah, I think it's over. I don't
think the party works anymore.

615
00:33:32,340 --> 00:33:33,090
Well, you know,

616
00:33:33,090 --> 00:33:38,520
if, if, if Hillary is, if so
what was he saying? I'm trying

617
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,490
to think, Wait a minute, there
was, oh, man, I'm trying to

618
00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:43,590
think now. He said there was
something that had never never

619
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:47,520
been done before. And if she
pulled that trick, it would, it

620
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,460
would break up the party. It was
something about some other type

621
00:33:50,460 --> 00:33:54,390
of delegate, not the super
delegates. More attention, he

622
00:33:54,390 --> 00:33:58,560
had some other some other angle
that the Clintons could

623
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,240
potentially pull to make, to
still get the nomination. Bow

624
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,830
shoot, man, I'm sorry. I

625
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:07,440
think they're gonna well, you
can, you'll find out later.

626
00:34:07,650 --> 00:34:11,070
We'll talk about some other
time. But I still think that she

627
00:34:11,070 --> 00:34:15,150
has a shot at this, you know,
sneaking out of this thing as a

628
00:34:15,150 --> 00:34:15,660
winner.

629
00:34:16,049 --> 00:34:17,279
Well, if I were her, though,

630
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:20,700
she doesn't have a choice. I
mean, she said they're gonna

631
00:34:20,700 --> 00:34:22,590
make it this time where she's
never gonna make it.

632
00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:25,500
No, but she could just save face
and then go back and make New

633
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:27,840
York a great place. You know,
you stop.

634
00:34:27,870 --> 00:34:31,440
That was never the idea. No,
it's not the idea. But

635
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,750
I think and they spent like $130
million. It's, it's obscene.

636
00:34:37,380 --> 00:34:37,680
Well,

637
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,730
she can't stop now.

638
00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:41,400
Obscene the amount? Well, of
course, she can stop.

639
00:34:42,180 --> 00:34:44,760
No, she's gonna have to stick
this out. You think

640
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,640
she's going all the way? Wow.
Well, according to Steve, it was

641
00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:50,850
it was a no go. You said a week
and a half and she's out. I

642
00:34:50,850 --> 00:34:52,080
thought that was very
interesting.

643
00:34:52,380 --> 00:34:54,810
Well, I'm glad that they have
hyper confidence in the whole

644
00:34:54,810 --> 00:34:57,840
deal. I mean, I'm not taking
bets on this, that's for sure.

645
00:34:58,050 --> 00:35:01,020
I'm taking bets on the on the
over All election but not about

646
00:35:01,020 --> 00:35:03,420
who's going to win this part of
it. But it would it would

647
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:06,870
actually surprise me. I mean,
let's say this way, I wouldn't

648
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:10,620
be surprised if she somehow, you
know, won anyway.

649
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,170
Well, there is a way for her to
do it, apparently. So there was

650
00:35:13,170 --> 00:35:13,560
still I

651
00:35:13,590 --> 00:35:16,050
think the Republicans would
rather have Obama running

652
00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:18,990
because I think they can get
more goods on him. So you have

653
00:35:18,990 --> 00:35:19,530
to deal with

654
00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:23,310
so you think that Well, I was
gonna say so if Obama wins the

655
00:35:23,370 --> 00:35:27,690
Democratic nomination, and let's
say Hillary is not the VP he

656
00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:31,380
gets some he gets some old white
guy from the south, you still

657
00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:34,110
think McCain will win? Oh, yeah.
Really?

658
00:35:35,490 --> 00:35:37,830
I don't think there's even a
snowball's chance in hell that

659
00:35:37,830 --> 00:35:38,400
he can win,

660
00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:42,270
can't you he has the personality
of a dish. rag man is just

661
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:44,160
bumming me out. Who?

662
00:35:44,190 --> 00:35:49,020
McCain? Yeah. There's so many
was doing an imitation of them.

663
00:35:49,470 --> 00:35:52,380
Rush Limbaugh has got some guy
who's ridicules him in this and

664
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:54,960
the voice is perfect. I think
it's a voice I could do. I'm

665
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,210
going to work on it. Okay, good.
Good. Good. Good. Whoo. That's

666
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,190
good. You know, it's better than
the other voice that nobody

667
00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:00,810
seems to like, at least your
fans.

668
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,390
I will say that, you know,
obviously, you know, I'm a

669
00:36:03,390 --> 00:36:06,150
constitutionalist. And I would
love nothing more than someone

670
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:11,850
who would at least attempt to
bring back a lot of the concepts

671
00:36:11,850 --> 00:36:14,790
of the Constitution. But if I
had to choose between McCain and

672
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:18,690
Obama, I would much rather go
with Obama, who has at least he

673
00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:20,220
brings a positive vibe,

674
00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:23,580
right now. But well, yeah, but
you know, six months from now,

675
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:25,620
when they, when they go after
him, and they start bringing

676
00:36:25,620 --> 00:36:28,230
stuff out and the guy starts
getting tired, you know, we're

677
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:29,490
gonna see a different Obama.

678
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:33,630
But he's a young guy, man,
compared to McCain, 73. You

679
00:36:33,630 --> 00:36:33,960
know,

680
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:36,480
I think he's going to be a
better president in 2012, than

681
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,330
he's going to be this runner who
if the Democrats get in because

682
00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:44,970
of the natural economic cycle,
if the Democrats get in, in this

683
00:36:44,970 --> 00:36:48,210
year, and then the economy
tanks, which is going to do no

684
00:36:48,210 --> 00:36:51,330
matter whose walls can't stop,
they're going to be blamed, and

685
00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:54,000
they're never going to be
another Democratic president in

686
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,960
our lifetime. The Democrats have
to hope to God that they don't

687
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,770
win this time.

688
00:37:00,150 --> 00:37:02,250
So what are we going to do for
these four years when they're

689
00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:04,200
when the economy tanks, we're
just gonna have to let

690
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,150
it's gonna be a 10 year down
cycle. So there's not going to

691
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:09,330
be a four year thing to worry
about. Because this is the big

692
00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:12,510
one. This is the 80 year cycle,
there's an 80 year massive

693
00:37:12,510 --> 00:37:16,560
depression cycle. That's
worldwide, actually. And this is

694
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,190
the one coming up and it results
in a 10 year stagnation period

695
00:37:20,190 --> 00:37:23,880
of stagnation that is
unbelievable. And even last

696
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,210
time, it happened in the 20s, or
the 30s. Actually, we you know,

697
00:37:27,210 --> 00:37:29,820
unemployment was around 40%.
There are breadlines everywhere

698
00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:34,050
have riots and all kinds of
things. You know, it was it was

699
00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:37,020
grim. And I don't see that being
any different. And it usually

700
00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:40,470
ends. By the way. American
history is interesting, because

701
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:45,750
the 80 year cycle is always
marked with a war at the end of

702
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:49,740
the the depression. And that we
have, if you look at our if you

703
00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:52,470
take the 80 years, you go to
1780, we had the American

704
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:55,320
Revolution, and you had 1860,
then you have the wishes, the

705
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,750
Civil War, you had another 80
years, you got World War Two,

706
00:37:58,020 --> 00:38:00,480
and you got another 80 years,
which is 2020 and has some

707
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,990
admissions, that's like
clockwork, the cycles and the

708
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:06,990
one end, it's always a bad
situation. And this is what

709
00:38:06,990 --> 00:38:09,150
we're going, we're headed
toward, and if the Democrats are

710
00:38:09,150 --> 00:38:12,270
in office, that's just they're
gonna get blamed for everything.

711
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:12,660
The only

712
00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:15,810
difference is, I believe, and
certainly the data seems to

713
00:38:15,810 --> 00:38:20,040
support it that this is not just
the US tanking of the economy,

714
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,100
the entire world is about to
just go into major

715
00:38:23,940 --> 00:38:26,640
insert insular here in the US
that we're not gonna we don't

716
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,770
care about the rest of the world
anyway. Yeah, everything is

717
00:38:28,770 --> 00:38:30,960
gonna go into the tank.
Everything is like, you know, we

718
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,960
got all kinds of issues, China
is gonna be really screwed. And

719
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,830
then we're gonna still blame
whoever our president is. And if

720
00:38:37,830 --> 00:38:40,380
it's Obama, that's going to be
you're never gonna see another

721
00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:42,330
Democrat ever. Huh?

722
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,370
Well, I don't know, man. I don't
I don't know what to say. All I

723
00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:47,760
know is

724
00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:51,510
that that's all you know, hey,
it's only a theory. And I'm just

725
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:51,810
really

726
00:38:51,810 --> 00:38:55,380
worried because I'm seeing all
of these all of these issues

727
00:38:55,380 --> 00:38:58,380
with the credit crisis, which I
think did we talked about this

728
00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:03,030
early, maybe over dinner about
the the auction based credit

729
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:04,020
that I tell you about that

730
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,210
you were talking a little bit
about, I wasn't paying much

731
00:39:06,210 --> 00:39:06,690
attention

732
00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:12,330
so there's a $300 billion dollar
credit marketplace which is

733
00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:16,560
called the auction credit
market. And the way it works is

734
00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:19,590
actually the example that I read
about someone sent it to me I

735
00:39:19,590 --> 00:39:24,120
should look his email up the
Port Authority in New York you

736
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,360
know, it's very by the way, you
know, borrowing money to finance

737
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,180
you know, Debt Debt is important
in running a company you know,

738
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:33,300
it's absolutely grow, you almost
can't live without debt. There's

739
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:35,790
very few companies that can do
it. It's just the way it works.

740
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,020
And there's a an auction based
market, we can go say, All

741
00:39:40,020 --> 00:39:42,930
right, I want to go buy some
debt or I need or I need some

742
00:39:42,930 --> 00:39:45,960
money. And it's an auction based
system. So right yeah, no, I

743
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,930
remember all this funny story.
So just imagine like an eBay

744
00:39:48,930 --> 00:39:53,790
type system. Now, what has never
happened before never ever, ever

745
00:39:53,790 --> 00:39:56,880
in this auction based system is
that someone said okay, I've got

746
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,210
some debt or I need to finance
or I need to or I want To get

747
00:40:00,210 --> 00:40:05,310
rid of this, an auction has
never failed. Unfortunately, in

748
00:40:05,310 --> 00:40:09,630
the fine print of all of these
auction based credit vehicles,

749
00:40:09,930 --> 00:40:13,830
it stated that if the auction
fails, then all of a sudden the

750
00:40:13,860 --> 00:40:19,470
interest rate goes up to 20%.
And this just happened with the

751
00:40:19,470 --> 00:40:24,300
New York Port Authority. And
then auction failed, and now

752
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:27,090
they're screwed because they're
sitting with this debt that is

753
00:40:27,090 --> 00:40:30,210
costing them 20% in interest,
and it's going to bring the

754
00:40:30,210 --> 00:40:35,430
entire $300 billion auction
based credit market down to its

755
00:40:35,490 --> 00:40:38,010
knees because you know, no one
no one trust debt anymore. They

756
00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:41,310
don't know who to trust. It's
all about the trust everyone's

757
00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:44,310
no one's got good credit in the
banking world, they're all

758
00:40:44,310 --> 00:40:46,500
afraid to borrow from from each
other.

759
00:40:49,230 --> 00:40:52,920
Yeah, well, the banks are always
behind these these problems.

760
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:55,500
Well, of course, you get greedy.
The next thing, you know,

761
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:58,830
they're all thinking, Oh,
they're my son is goes to the

762
00:40:58,830 --> 00:41:03,810
school evergreen, which is a, I
don't know if from what I can

763
00:41:03,810 --> 00:41:10,650
tell it's a socialist
institution. Damn, Damis. But,

764
00:41:10,650 --> 00:41:13,200
you know, I kind of like think
it's, you know, I think kids in

765
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,750
especially in college should,
you know, get as much of this

766
00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:19,260
out of their system as they can,
yeah. But he gets he's taken an

767
00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:22,770
economics course from some guy,
who, I guess doesn't follow the

768
00:41:22,770 --> 00:41:25,740
litany of all this and he's
like, get this whole thing I get

769
00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:29,490
I find out the details, because
his whole theory of everything

770
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,060
is how Clinton is actually the
guy responsible for the all his

771
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:37,650
economic turmoil that we're in.
And based on the fact that

772
00:41:37,650 --> 00:41:41,460
Clinton cut loose all those old
rules from the 30s, you know,

773
00:41:41,460 --> 00:41:43,890
that would keep us from going
into a depression and, and all

774
00:41:43,890 --> 00:41:46,260
that kind of stuff and let the
banks do whatever they want.

775
00:41:46,290 --> 00:41:48,660
Yeah. I mean, why is the Bank of
it? You know, I remember when I

776
00:41:48,660 --> 00:41:52,980
was a kid, and it was forever,
you couldn't have any national

777
00:41:52,980 --> 00:41:54,990
banks, you had, you know, the
Bank of America was in

778
00:41:54,990 --> 00:41:58,830
California, and Citibank was in
New York, and there was banks

779
00:41:58,830 --> 00:42:01,200
and all these different states.
Now you go anywhere, you can

780
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,230
find a Bank of America or
Citibank branch anywhere in the

781
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:07,920
whole country. So they'd be
became consolidated. Now they're

782
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,110
all like, you know, the Bank of
America has, you know, bought by

783
00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:12,030
some other bank, which is bought
another bank, and they're all

784
00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:13,770
like consolidating this. Oh, but
isn't

785
00:42:13,770 --> 00:42:18,330
it just infant database is
believable. So Northern Rock in

786
00:42:18,330 --> 00:42:21,570
the UK was was nationalised,
after all, which is surprising

787
00:42:21,570 --> 00:42:24,210
to me, because I really thought
Richard Branson had it locked

788
00:42:24,210 --> 00:42:28,050
down with some Chinese money. I
was wrong on that. Interesting

789
00:42:28,050 --> 00:42:30,960
report, though, our friends from
the register in the UK,

790
00:42:31,620 --> 00:42:36,750
registered registered.co.uk had
a post that there's two things

791
00:42:36,750 --> 00:42:41,130
One is there's a paragraph in,
in the in the documentation of

792
00:42:41,130 --> 00:42:45,360
the nationalisation you know,
documents, or whatever it is,

793
00:42:45,690 --> 00:42:49,920
that says that the bank shall be
exempt from any freedom of

794
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:56,670
information requests. Which I
find highly suspicious. That's

795
00:42:56,670 --> 00:43:00,000
weird. And the other thing that
was kind of funny is the guy

796
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,860
they've parachuted in to run the
bank is a non domicile resident.

797
00:43:06,690 --> 00:43:08,070
Who wasn't Wolfowitz? Was it?

798
00:43:08,910 --> 00:43:11,850
No, no, no, no, no, no, huzzah.
I forget the name of the guy

799
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,760
should look it up. But he so
he's going to be dealing with

800
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,790
all this, all that tax crap that
I'm gonna go through in in a

801
00:43:17,790 --> 00:43:20,700
couple of months when it
happens. So that was kind of

802
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:24,270
ironic. But the fact that you
can't do a Freedom of

803
00:43:24,270 --> 00:43:28,530
Information request on him is,
is interesting to say the least.

804
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:36,630
And I mean, I'm reminded of the
just did this on tech five. The

805
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,760
guys who did wiki leak?

806
00:43:39,210 --> 00:43:43,290
Yeah, that's the the the wiki
site that had a whistleblower

807
00:43:43,290 --> 00:43:44,580
site, right whistleblower

808
00:43:44,580 --> 00:43:48,300
site. And so some judge because
of some whistleblowing they did

809
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:51,270
about a Cayman Island bank. It
wasn't even an American

810
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:57,000
property. Some American judge
essentially shuts down the site,

811
00:43:57,540 --> 00:44:00,870
which is like why, yeah, and
then, you know, unless he had

812
00:44:00,870 --> 00:44:04,650
money they were he was part of
this scheme. So he shuts down

813
00:44:04,650 --> 00:44:07,860
the site so they end up having
to reposition the site and open

814
00:44:07,860 --> 00:44:12,570
it up again in Sweden. Yep. By
the guys who did pirates Bay.

815
00:44:12,570 --> 00:44:16,080
Oh, you know, and I'm thinking I
think I mentioned this is as

816
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,510
kind of pathetic when you know,
the land of the free and the

817
00:44:18,510 --> 00:44:22,230
home of the brave and we brag
about free, free freedom over

818
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:26,370
me. We have to do our, our work
in Sweden.

819
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,440
Yeah. Sweden, by the way, one of
the few countries that did not

820
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,890
participate in a lot of the EU
stuff, including the euro.

821
00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:39,180
Yeah, they didn't, but they did
join their members. Yeah.

822
00:44:39,210 --> 00:44:43,590
Norway, which was the real smart
money stayed out. And

823
00:44:43,590 --> 00:44:44,310
Switzerland.

824
00:44:45,420 --> 00:44:48,450
We got some feedback. People are
getting much better out of John.

825
00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:51,210
They're in and out. You want to
want to hear one or two of

826
00:44:51,210 --> 00:44:54,570
these. Yeah, sure. We're
running. Okay, this is well,

827
00:44:54,570 --> 00:44:55,920
I'll just run them we'll see
what we got here. I

828
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,330
Adam Hi, John. Mike pico here.
Love to get your take on On this

829
00:45:00,330 --> 00:45:03,960
story, because I really love
listening to no agenda and the

830
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:09,090
directions that you guys take a
conversation. You can make the

831
00:45:09,090 --> 00:45:12,540
inane, interesting. So I think
there's a conflict anyway,

832
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:17,160
looking at a couple of recent
news stories and seeing that,

833
00:45:17,340 --> 00:45:21,990
you know, five cables, undersea
cables were cut. And I've also

834
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:26,400
seen as many as nine, when I
Googled it, some, some articles

835
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,360
are saying as many as nine have
been cut somewhere. And then the

836
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,700
more recent spy satellite in in
space was having a little bit of

837
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:38,460
trouble staying in orbit, and it
effectively died, it was no

838
00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:42,450
longer under control. And they,
once they had a window, shut it

839
00:45:42,450 --> 00:45:46,110
out of the sky. quite
effectively, I might add, and

840
00:45:46,110 --> 00:45:48,390
there's been speculation and I
think I even heard Adam

841
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:52,830
mentioned it that that was kind
of a big, here you go. We can do

842
00:45:52,830 --> 00:45:57,810
it. Kiss RS, which I would tend
to agree with. But when you

843
00:45:57,810 --> 00:46:02,040
factor in the cables cut, I
believe in one of the stories

844
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,260
that I read about those cables
being cut as some of the traffic

845
00:46:04,260 --> 00:46:08,940
was redirected to satellites. Is
it mayor, does it seem like this

846
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:14,340
is just the United States
saying, Okay, if there's cables

847
00:46:14,370 --> 00:46:16,530
that don't work for your
internet, and you want to

848
00:46:16,530 --> 00:46:19,170
reroute it to space, we'll just
blow your birds out of the sky.

849
00:46:19,230 --> 00:46:21,780
Just a thought like to hear you
guys take on it. Once again. I

850
00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:24,510
really enjoy the show. Thank you
much. Bye bye now.

851
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,690
So you have a theory about the
cables. I thought it was

852
00:46:27,690 --> 00:46:28,170
interesting.

853
00:46:29,010 --> 00:46:32,040
Market Watch you can anyone out
there can read it ran a couple

854
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,590
of weeks ago, go to
marketwatch.com. And look my

855
00:46:34,590 --> 00:46:38,550
columns up and you'll find it.
There's kind of a sketchy. I

856
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:40,920
mean, I was I mean, it wasn't a
sketchy column. From my

857
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,530
perspective, it was kind of you
know, I'm glad they ran it

858
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,010
because it was definitely coming
from the perspective of a reader

859
00:46:47,010 --> 00:46:50,250
of the Confessions of an
economic hitman. Ah, you know,

860
00:46:50,250 --> 00:46:53,850
kind of a wacky idea. And what
it was, it was one of the

861
00:46:53,850 --> 00:46:57,090
readers that sent us or one of
my listeners or readers, I don't

862
00:46:57,090 --> 00:47:01,620
know what he sent me this note,
I credited him in the column,

863
00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:05,010
which was that there was going
to be the opening of an Iranian

864
00:47:05,010 --> 00:47:08,340
bourse to buy and sell oil in
euros.

865
00:47:08,370 --> 00:47:12,600
Let me just explain. A bourse is
basically an exchange like a

866
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,120
stock market. Commodities
exchange. Yeah,

867
00:47:15,150 --> 00:47:19,950
right. So commodities exchange,
European style, and, and they

868
00:47:19,950 --> 00:47:22,590
were putting it up on this
really cool Island, which

869
00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:26,370
they're turning into a free
trade zone, the Iranians are

870
00:47:26,370 --> 00:47:30,270
just underwater somewhere. And
it looked like it only had

871
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:34,950
access to unlike all the rest of
these, these guys that were cut

872
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:37,440
off from this cable, this
mysterious cable cutting,

873
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,170
everybody else could reroute, at
least they had some internet

874
00:47:40,170 --> 00:47:44,250
access. But this island was cut
off completely. And so I started

875
00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:46,650
looking into it, I thought was a
good theory. I liked it. I liked

876
00:47:46,650 --> 00:47:49,410
the idea. And so then I started
looking into it. And there's a

877
00:47:49,410 --> 00:47:51,960
couple of really dynamite hotels
are building there. And so I

878
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,020
call these places up. Or first I
tried to email and I all the

879
00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:56,940
email bounced. So I figured it
out. I guess there is no

880
00:47:56,940 --> 00:47:57,720
internet. Do you still have

881
00:47:57,720 --> 00:47:59,970
a copy of those bounces? Could
you forward it to me? Because

882
00:47:59,970 --> 00:48:02,130
sometimes there's information in
there that is pretty

883
00:48:02,130 --> 00:48:03,780
interesting. Yeah, I

884
00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:08,340
think so with the header. The
headers I use? Yeah, I think I

885
00:48:08,340 --> 00:48:11,460
just probably didn't erase them.
Okay. But anyway, so then, but

886
00:48:11,460 --> 00:48:13,230
then I tried calling them on the
phone, and there was no

887
00:48:13,230 --> 00:48:18,150
telecommunications at all. And
IP phones were blanked out, too.

888
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:20,610
So I just gave up on it after I
tried three different hotels.

889
00:48:20,610 --> 00:48:21,480
And I figured, well, I guess,

890
00:48:21,660 --> 00:48:24,450
by the way, can I just commend
you for doing something actually

891
00:48:24,450 --> 00:48:27,660
journalistic as opposed to every
other fucking pundit out there

892
00:48:27,660 --> 00:48:30,660
who was just like Boo, boo, you
actually did like some work?

893
00:48:31,170 --> 00:48:34,350
Most of the time? You When
You're a pundit, like myself,

894
00:48:34,350 --> 00:48:37,050
you don't really have to do that
kind of thing. But I didn't like

895
00:48:37,050 --> 00:48:42,000
I don't like following leads
that don't that are just blue

896
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,070
sky. I mean, if there's
something that's, you know, I

897
00:48:44,070 --> 00:48:47,940
don't want to be embarrassed if
so I do some occasionally do

898
00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:50,910
some reporting. And so I'll you
know, when I have to, to prove

899
00:48:50,910 --> 00:48:53,250
something, most of the time, I'm
just making, you know, I'm gonna

900
00:48:53,250 --> 00:48:56,850
say, Well, I the way I see it,
because there's some some, just

901
00:48:56,850 --> 00:48:59,220
some thought, I don't need to
report on that. Because there's

902
00:48:59,220 --> 00:49:01,260
just no way I'm thinking but
when it's something that

903
00:49:01,260 --> 00:49:05,190
supposedly happened, I have to
report on it. Which is meaning I

904
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:07,590
have to research it a little bit
to make sure that don't get

905
00:49:07,590 --> 00:49:10,200
somebody saying I was, why
didn't you just call us we could

906
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,160
have told you anything you
wanted to know. And so like did

907
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,740
call and that's what I got
nothing. I couldn't get through

908
00:49:16,740 --> 00:49:19,200
to anybody. So I figured, well,
I guess this thing is cut. And

909
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,780
these guys are cut off. So the
bores didn't get to open on

910
00:49:21,780 --> 00:49:25,560
time. And everyone thinks it's
just you know, the New York Jets

911
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,550
actually the New York oil, guys,
and then there's a big exchange

912
00:49:29,550 --> 00:49:29,640
and

913
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,970
so and so So the theory is that
not only were they going to

914
00:49:32,970 --> 00:49:36,600
trade was it a new place to
trade oil, but the big news I

915
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,030
thought was that they were going
to trade it in euros, which of

916
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:42,270
course is a big deal because oil
has always been traded in

917
00:49:42,270 --> 00:49:45,090
dollars or pretty much always
been traded in dollars.

918
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,030
Right? Although I have this
thought that maybe they should

919
00:49:48,330 --> 00:49:51,570
start trading in euros and then
bring the dollar back up. But I

920
00:49:51,570 --> 00:49:53,970
think it's a dog's gonna sink
more. They don't want to do that

921
00:49:53,970 --> 00:49:54,480
yet.

922
00:49:54,510 --> 00:49:57,060
Yeah. So do you think that
there's something to the

923
00:49:57,060 --> 00:49:59,310
satellite business that maybe
that had to be shot as a

924
00:49:59,310 --> 00:49:59,970
coincidence

925
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,520
Maybe there's something to it.
But yeah, I thought that it

926
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,400
would do. I mean, everybody in
the right wing community all

927
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,710
believes that the only reason
for shooting that satellite out

928
00:50:07,710 --> 00:50:10,980
of the air was I mean, look,
there's there's, there's a

929
00:50:10,980 --> 00:50:14,460
number of possibilities, one,
the satellite needed to be shot

930
00:50:14,490 --> 00:50:19,110
out of the air, because it was,
you know, going to fall and land

931
00:50:19,110 --> 00:50:21,870
somewhere and they needed to do
this. Is it? Does anybody think

932
00:50:21,870 --> 00:50:24,810
that's a possibility? It doesn't
seem. So I think that may be the

933
00:50:24,810 --> 00:50:28,500
real reason. But there is also
the thought amongst the right

934
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:32,820
wingers that you know, that
China blew up a satellite, so we

935
00:50:32,820 --> 00:50:35,070
had to show them that we could
do it, too.

936
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:38,730
I'm kind of there. I think
that's not you

937
00:50:38,730 --> 00:50:41,430
know, I'm not I'm into the cable
thing, because it makes a lot of

938
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:44,310
sense. And it's a weird
coincidence, and there's no good

939
00:50:44,310 --> 00:50:47,430
reason for it. The satellite
thing, there was good reasons

940
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:50,580
for it in the mix. You know,
yeah, we blew it up. And maybe

941
00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:52,920
we were testing some stuff, but
I think the satellite probably

942
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,620
needed to be blown up. The thing
was supposedly the size of a

943
00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:58,710
school bus. And I guess it
crapped out. Yeah, and you can't

944
00:50:58,710 --> 00:51:00,780
just have this thing floating
around up there.

945
00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:02,970
And just to take it one step
further. This happened on the

946
00:51:02,970 --> 00:51:07,440
night of the full lunar eclipse.
I don't know if it has anything

947
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,300
to do with it. But just another
date,

948
00:51:09,479 --> 00:51:10,799
that it was a day before.

949
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:11,850
Oh, I could be wrong.

950
00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:14,820
I think you're wrong on that.
But I don't I'm not absolutely

951
00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:15,240
sure.

952
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,700
They did. They did send out no
Tam's notice to Airmen. Because

953
00:51:20,700 --> 00:51:22,710
I know because Captain Chris
called into the daily source

954
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:25,860
code. Oh, unlimit. Daily source
code.com. I'm learning John.

955
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:32,250
There was a notice to Airmen
that you couldn't fly somewhere.

956
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:38,100
Somewhere in the Pacific near
Hawaii. The FAA basically set up

957
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,510
a temporary danger zone, and you
weren't allowed to fly there.

958
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:43,950
Interesting.

959
00:51:44,580 --> 00:51:49,890
Well, my wife says that there
was a there was a a at the time

960
00:51:49,890 --> 00:51:52,110
that think thing was supposed to
shut down up in Washington

961
00:51:52,110 --> 00:51:54,270
State. There was a

962
00:51:54,660 --> 00:51:56,670
media oral media or that
impacted

963
00:51:57,450 --> 00:52:01,110
or something? Yeah. Well, it was
did you do is that what you

964
00:52:01,110 --> 00:52:02,220
heard? A meteor?

965
00:52:02,340 --> 00:52:05,760
Yeah, in fact, another pilot
reported that he actually saw it

966
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,510
impact he saw it hit the hit the
ground now. I presume it's

967
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:12,630
immediate, or and I'm actually
I'm amazed that you were the

968
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:15,390
pictures are there no people out
there looking for this stuff?

969
00:52:15,660 --> 00:52:19,050
You know, these things? I mean,
I've seen things flat. You can't

970
00:52:19,050 --> 00:52:22,860
get the camera out fast enough.
These things are going at like,

971
00:52:22,860 --> 00:52:26,850
you know, 100,000 miles an hour
guy or 50,000 at least are some

972
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,180
they just shoot by and blow up.
I mean, you don't have time to

973
00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:31,110
take a picture and

974
00:52:31,110 --> 00:52:33,240
they can be pretty small. They
can be like the size of a

975
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:35,760
baseball could still look pretty
spectacular in the sky, I'm

976
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:36,210
told.

977
00:52:36,660 --> 00:52:39,780
Right? And you know where the
meteor hit. I mean, you know,

978
00:52:39,780 --> 00:52:43,260
meteors are worth a lot of money
if you can find one. Hey, now.

979
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:47,400
What are you doing this weekend?
John? Aren't you up in the area?

980
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,350
I'm gonna go up there looking
for that Meteor.

981
00:52:50,490 --> 00:52:56,010
Cash, baby. Here's a follow up
on the discussion we had about

982
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,660
cotton T shirts. Wolfie and wool
wool. Yeah, listen to this,

983
00:53:00,690 --> 00:53:03,150
you'll probably like this one.
Hey, Adam,

984
00:53:03,150 --> 00:53:06,240
Chris Cochran here from Seattle
calling about your discussion on

985
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:10,320
no agenda about T shirts, and
fabric and cotton and men

986
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,800
wearing out and I just wanted to
let you know that, you know,

987
00:53:14,220 --> 00:53:19,830
it's not seemingly different
thing is cotton has changed in

988
00:53:19,830 --> 00:53:22,830
the last 25 years, I actually
work in the apparel industry.

989
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:26,970
And we create custom T shirts a
company does. And we have a hard

990
00:53:26,970 --> 00:53:32,160
time finding quality t shirt
material that meets the same

991
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,340
standards that you could get
like say 25 years ago. Not too

992
00:53:35,340 --> 00:53:39,990
long ago, you could buy a nice
soft cotton t shirt from all us,

993
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:43,770
you know, West Texas cotton. And
it was just amazing. That same

994
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,210
quality today sucks. And it's
the material itself. It's

995
00:53:48,210 --> 00:53:50,850
actually the fibre in the crime
itself. That has changed and

996
00:53:50,850 --> 00:53:53,910
nobody can tell us why. You just
have a hard time finding that

997
00:53:53,910 --> 00:54:00,660
same quality these days. No
agenda.

998
00:54:00,990 --> 00:54:03,270
I thought that was pretty
interesting. That's really

999
00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:05,880
interesting. Can't find good
quality cotton. I

1000
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,400
mean, well, he says the UAE and
now he's talking about Texas,

1001
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,410
you know, American cotton. Yeah.
Which is a little I think you

1002
00:54:10,410 --> 00:54:14,580
can still get good quality
Egyptian cotton. And I still

1003
00:54:14,580 --> 00:54:17,910
have some I have some tekota t
shirt in Hong Kong long years

1004
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:19,650
and years and years ago. And I
still every once awhile, it

1005
00:54:19,650 --> 00:54:23,220
comes up in the cycle of wearing
a t shirt. And here it is, and

1006
00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:25,980
then you put it on. It's like
ah, it's things like cashmere

1007
00:54:25,980 --> 00:54:28,650
sweater and just wears like
forever as a beautiful piece of

1008
00:54:28,650 --> 00:54:32,250
cotton. That's a t shirt. And so
I mean, I'm sure that there's

1009
00:54:32,370 --> 00:54:34,920
and some of the cotton that I've
seen that has you know, it says

1010
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,290
Egyptian you can still buy
towels made from Egyptian

1011
00:54:37,290 --> 00:54:40,530
cotton. And it's like some of
the best cotton. And he's

1012
00:54:40,530 --> 00:54:43,260
talking about Texas cotton,
which never, I don't think has

1013
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:46,950
ever been that good. But what I
thought was interesting about

1014
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:51,030
his comments was the fact that
no one can explain why quality

1015
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:55,950
has deteriorated. Monsanto can't
explain it. Maybe it's just a

1016
00:54:55,950 --> 00:54:59,910
crappy. Sometimes. Genetically.
They've changed the thing and

1017
00:54:59,910 --> 00:55:02,610
it's So, I don't know really
what you think somebody should

1018
00:55:02,610 --> 00:55:03,270
look into this

1019
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:05,580
change genetically changed the
cotton I have

1020
00:55:06,060 --> 00:55:09,300
always screwing around with the
seeds, you know, to make this

1021
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:12,360
thing so does you know so boll
weevils don't eat it so much, or

1022
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,150
the poison, you know, some sort
of, you know, something that

1023
00:55:15,540 --> 00:55:18,360
give it more production, more
productivity. I mean, they're

1024
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:23,160
always dicking around with these
non food stuff, plants.

1025
00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:27,780
While we're on the topic of
clothes, I was in an article in

1026
00:55:27,780 --> 00:55:33,960
the Financial Times week ago, I
think, where retailers in the

1027
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,110
United States and Europe are now
putting together you know, like,

1028
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:46,440
almost like open letters to to
makers of apparel. Saying please

1029
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:51,210
do not forget us here in the
United States, do not forget

1030
00:55:51,210 --> 00:55:54,480
about our fashion trends and our
needs, because apparently all

1031
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,780
these apparel makers, certainly
the higher mid to higher end,

1032
00:55:58,140 --> 00:56:03,000
are no longer making clothes for
the Americans and Europeans for

1033
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,690
their sizes and styles and
tastes. They're all focusing on

1034
00:56:06,690 --> 00:56:09,660
China and other Eastern
countries. Which, by the way, is

1035
00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:13,080
the reason why I can't get any
clothes in my size anymore.

1036
00:56:14,070 --> 00:56:17,220
Yeah, you're tall, tall and
skinny. And you just

1037
00:56:17,220 --> 00:56:20,340
you're not that tall or and not
that skinny. I mean, it seems to

1038
00:56:20,340 --> 00:56:23,370
me that you're I mean, you're
tall and skinny but you're not

1039
00:56:23,970 --> 00:56:25,800
you're not like six eight no but

1040
00:56:26,130 --> 00:56:29,310
the there aren't a lot of people
like me are just not enough and

1041
00:56:29,310 --> 00:56:31,920
that just they've given up that
just not make it any more I have

1042
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,850
to I think I'm have to result
you know, resort to to having

1043
00:56:35,850 --> 00:56:40,110
stuff tailored. Well, you can
afford it. That's not the point.

1044
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:43,050
That's discrimination. It has to

1045
00:56:43,590 --> 00:56:45,960
discrimination. Hey, that would
you mind me? Suddenly, we're

1046
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,170
such we're talking about this
subject. So remember, last week

1047
00:56:49,170 --> 00:56:51,690
or the week before talking about
gold toe and I had these

1048
00:56:51,690 --> 00:56:53,700
cashmere socks that were all
that didn't work? Yeah.

1049
00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:56,520
I have a comment on that too.
Yeah. Okay. North Carolina.

1050
00:56:56,610 --> 00:56:58,770
So you know, I said is like, you
know, this is the best we can

1051
00:56:58,770 --> 00:57:00,810
do. The United States knows we
just make socks. That's pretty

1052
00:57:00,810 --> 00:57:02,730
much our business. Somebody
sends me a note from North

1053
00:57:02,730 --> 00:57:06,840
Carolina saying, Hey, you get a
clue. John, the gold tow company

1054
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,710
and all their manufacturing is
moving to Mexico. Oh, no.

1055
00:57:12,690 --> 00:57:18,960
There you go. Now we make
nothing. No agenda. We make bits

1056
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,330
and bytes here. Check this out.
Second.

1057
00:57:21,780 --> 00:57:26,940
Adam, John, you don't know about
the infamous sock industry. Try

1058
00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:29,550
this. Take a metal detector and
put it over your socks. If

1059
00:57:29,550 --> 00:57:32,160
you're real lucky. Every now and
then you'll get a little blip.

1060
00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:36,330
Back The Transporter transponder
inside the socks. Are he

1061
00:57:36,330 --> 00:57:39,540
activated put them in the dryer
one of the socks teams out and

1062
00:57:39,540 --> 00:57:42,360
get sent back to the factory to
be resold. So every time you

1063
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,330
wash your socks one comes up
missing that caused you to have

1064
00:57:45,330 --> 00:57:48,360
to buy more socks. You got to
learn this stuff out.

1065
00:57:49,860 --> 00:57:52,650
Yeah, that's our that's our
actually our normal listener.

1066
00:57:52,890 --> 00:57:56,610
Yeah, guy. Yeah,

1067
00:57:56,670 --> 00:57:58,230
that's that is the listener.

1068
00:57:59,490 --> 00:58:04,080
That's him. I was a little
distressed by that she's Geez.

1069
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,000
You know, I mean, they're
already making money. They're in

1070
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,030
Costco. They got all the
distribution they need. What is

1071
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:11,850
it about that? What is it
happening that they have to move

1072
00:58:11,850 --> 00:58:14,040
to Mexico? And it can't be cheap
to

1073
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:17,430
to pick out any price? That's
the only reason to do it. Yeah,

1074
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:17,640
but

1075
00:58:17,970 --> 00:58:20,970
what does it cost to take in
closed on a huge factory in

1076
00:58:20,970 --> 00:58:24,750
North Carolina and haul your
butt down to Mexico and rebuild

1077
00:58:24,750 --> 00:58:27,900
down there? I mean, it just
doesn't make a lot of economic

1078
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:30,300
sense to me over the long haul.

1079
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,300
I don't know Well, I don't know
anything about manufacturing.

1080
00:58:34,140 --> 00:58:35,190
But it seems that

1081
00:58:35,220 --> 00:58:38,280
unless the factory is falling
apart and you have to read tool

1082
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:38,940
anyway.

1083
00:58:39,090 --> 00:58:41,190
There must be some there must be
something good we make in

1084
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:43,320
America what do we make here?
What do you make this?

1085
00:58:43,770 --> 00:58:47,550
That's what we make? We make
jets and bombs we're really good

1086
00:58:47,550 --> 00:58:50,580
at that. Yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah. And we make a lot of we'd

1087
00:58:50,580 --> 00:58:54,540
like to blow stuff up and we
make we make high end ships are

1088
00:58:54,540 --> 00:58:57,810
still mostly made in this
country, the really pricey ones.

1089
00:58:58,290 --> 00:58:59,100
And

1090
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,330
I don't know there's got to be
some other stuff that's really

1091
00:59:03,330 --> 00:59:06,750
big and I think we make brooms
some places we make

1092
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,570
great flashlights we make mag
light they're still made in

1093
00:59:09,570 --> 00:59:10,140
America.

1094
00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:12,060
Mag light. That's one thing
Yeah.

1095
00:59:13,530 --> 00:59:15,270
You know, I guess entertainment.

1096
00:59:16,350 --> 00:59:18,810
We do a lot of entertainment law
too much of it, man.

1097
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,080
That's gotta be it. You know,
and we and of course country in

1098
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,180
Western and jazz are pretty much
American he

1099
00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:27,150
makes cars too. We do make cars
and vehicles I mean, even though

1100
00:59:27,150 --> 00:59:30,090
a lot of them are made by Honda
and you know, like Toyota, but

1101
00:59:30,090 --> 00:59:32,700
they could have factories here.
So I think that counts.

1102
00:59:32,730 --> 00:59:35,370
I think we're losing out. I
think we're really losing out in

1103
00:59:35,370 --> 00:59:36,300
the car business.

1104
00:59:38,010 --> 00:59:41,220
Well, I don't think our cars are
that I've never been really that

1105
00:59:41,220 --> 00:59:44,310
good. Although I have to say you
know, even though I mean cars

1106
00:59:44,310 --> 00:59:46,650
and a car I really think is one
of the I still think the

1107
00:59:46,650 --> 00:59:50,340
Japanese make the best cars and
I have been driving a Lexus for

1108
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,100
a couple of them. And I think is
one of the best cars I've ever

1109
00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:56,100
owned, even though it's kind of
falling apart after being as old

1110
00:59:56,100 --> 00:59:56,790
as it is, but it

1111
00:59:56,790 --> 00:59:59,520
is a trash pit on wheels.

1112
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,140
isn't to get a detailed you know
what's gonna happen next time

1113
01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:06,510
you see that car is gonna have
been detailing and as you get a

1114
01:00:06,510 --> 01:00:07,140
new car

1115
01:00:07,950 --> 01:00:10,530
like I don't even believe you
actually have a home I think you

1116
01:00:10,530 --> 01:00:11,520
live in that thing.

1117
01:00:11,669 --> 01:00:13,499
It looks actually but you
haven't been in a race I

1118
01:00:13,499 --> 01:00:15,479
actually cleaned it out because
I gotta take it to the detail.

1119
01:00:15,479 --> 01:00:15,629
What do

1120
01:00:15,630 --> 01:00:18,870
you mean? I wasn't just earlier
this week we went to our place

1121
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:19,140
to go

1122
01:00:19,590 --> 01:00:22,950
there's a couple of things in
the show. I have a box of you

1123
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:25,620
know, I go to Costco I don't
take the stuff out of me. What's

1124
01:00:25,620 --> 01:00:28,200
that sign you keep showing me I
forget what it says you have a

1125
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,580
sign that you're parking sign I

1126
01:00:29,580 --> 01:00:36,660
was carrying the car. Anyway,
let's get back to the NAB Show.

1127
01:00:36,660 --> 01:00:40,020
But we have a Dodge Caravan.
We've had a couple of them,

1128
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:43,710
which is a minivan which is you
know, the car that men should

1129
01:00:43,710 --> 01:00:47,280
never be driving. But I have to
say it's, you know, a very, you

1130
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,050
know, it's an outstanding
vehicle even though it had to go

1131
01:00:49,050 --> 01:00:51,780
into the shop a lot. But in
terms of like being a good

1132
01:00:51,780 --> 01:00:56,220
functional car. They're they're
actually not bad. I also like

1133
01:00:56,220 --> 01:00:58,710
Volvo's, I think it's you know,
even though they used to be

1134
01:00:58,710 --> 01:01:01,350
stodgy, they're actually kind of
sporting at the least minor

1135
01:01:01,410 --> 01:01:06,180
minor basis. But I was up at the
factory in Gothenburg, Sweden

1136
01:01:06,180 --> 01:01:08,820
and went around the track and
all the different cars, all the

1137
01:01:08,820 --> 01:01:11,670
different versions they made.
And they have some diesels that

1138
01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:13,830
they don't bring over here that
just go like a little rocket

1139
01:01:13,830 --> 01:01:15,150
ships. It's amazing. Well,
you're

1140
01:01:15,150 --> 01:01:19,140
not you can't buy a new diesel
in California. Right? Isn't that

1141
01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:22,230
some kind of law that they that
they can't sell any new diesel

1142
01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:23,730
cars? Only old ones?

1143
01:01:24,030 --> 01:01:24,960
I don't know. Yeah.

1144
01:01:25,530 --> 01:01:28,020
I think there's a rule something
you can't buy a new design.

1145
01:01:28,020 --> 01:01:30,750
There's some California
regulation about it. I'm a big

1146
01:01:30,750 --> 01:01:33,360
fan of diesel. I love it.
Because you know, those things

1147
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,660
were intended to basically you
can piss in it in the tank, and

1148
01:01:36,660 --> 01:01:38,580
it'll run you know, it's a whole

1149
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,410
go 300,000 miles and again, but
I have to say these new diesels,

1150
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,620
which are in Europe and not in
the United States, are

1151
01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:49,410
astonishing. You could put
somebody in one of these things.

1152
01:01:49,410 --> 01:01:52,890
And if you didn't tell him it
was a diesel wouldn't know. They

1153
01:01:52,890 --> 01:01:55,980
wouldn't know now have the same
response as any gasoline engine

1154
01:01:55,980 --> 01:01:57,570
and they just go faster than
crap.

1155
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,780
And the balance of the engine is
good. It doesn't ping around

1156
01:02:00,780 --> 01:02:03,420
like the you see the big thing
in aviation. Now. Everyone's

1157
01:02:03,420 --> 01:02:05,790
switching to diesel engines in
their aeroplanes. That's that's

1158
01:02:05,790 --> 01:02:10,620
a real big, real big trend I'm
seeing happening. Yeah, that's

1159
01:02:11,730 --> 01:02:15,690
and of course, you Oh, no, man,
all the new all the new

1160
01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:18,630
aeroplanes you can choose, you
can choose most of them. You can

1161
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:21,450
choose if you want a diesel
engine or not. And it's mainly

1162
01:02:21,450 --> 01:02:22,770
done obviously, for cost.

1163
01:02:23,370 --> 01:02:28,260
I'm gonna have to look into the
I used to work at Union oil and

1164
01:02:28,260 --> 01:02:32,460
we used to do, I was in the
cabinet. I was a chemist, and we

1165
01:02:32,460 --> 01:02:33,600
used to do a lot of testing.

1166
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,500
We are chemists in college as
well. Chemists major, my

1167
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:39,690
favourite I always hung out with
those guys.

1168
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:43,380
Yeah, well, that's yeah, you
would, and well, you should. But

1169
01:02:43,380 --> 01:02:45,690
anyways, so we tested a lot of
fuels and stuff. And there was

1170
01:02:45,690 --> 01:02:48,300
always one of the things that
you when you have these octane

1171
01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:50,850
ratings is based on this thing
called knock engine that you put

1172
01:02:50,850 --> 01:02:52,920
the fuel through, and it would
start knocking at a certain

1173
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,070
point, it would be rated at
whatever and they used to be

1174
01:02:56,070 --> 01:03:01,230
actually the two ratings road
and something else that used to

1175
01:03:01,230 --> 01:03:03,570
be on the pumps and they took
took them off, or they make a

1176
01:03:03,570 --> 01:03:08,340
combination number. But anyway,
the diesel stuff was always you

1177
01:03:08,340 --> 01:03:11,580
know, there's something changed
with diesels to make these new

1178
01:03:11,580 --> 01:03:14,850
Hot Rod engines. And I'd like to
know, because I've been out of

1179
01:03:14,850 --> 01:03:17,190
it for so long. I'd like
somebody to explain to me or

1180
01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:22,830
send me an email explaining why
these diesels are so they're so

1181
01:03:22,830 --> 01:03:24,750
different. I mean, they're
amazing.

1182
01:03:24,990 --> 01:03:27,510
I don't think the principle is
the same. I think they've just

1183
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:32,700
gotten better balance. All the
diesels that you're talking

1184
01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:35,130
about, I'm sure a turbocharged
if they have that amazing

1185
01:03:35,130 --> 01:03:37,590
pickup, they've got to be
turbocharged two there's a lot

1186
01:03:37,590 --> 01:03:39,990
of think there's been a lot of
improvements in that.

1187
01:03:41,850 --> 01:03:44,340
I don't know it's just the whole
thing seems peculiar to me that

1188
01:03:44,340 --> 01:03:47,730
that these engines are so nice.
You should give me a diesel has

1189
01:03:47,730 --> 01:03:50,460
always been a piece of crap. You
know, the things take forever to

1190
01:03:50,460 --> 01:03:52,350
warm up. They shake. Oh, you

1191
01:03:52,350 --> 01:03:53,790
don't have to do any of that
anymore.

1192
01:03:53,820 --> 01:03:57,870
No pickup. You know, they make a
bunch of noise and they belch

1193
01:03:57,870 --> 01:04:00,390
black smoke. That's to me is a
diesel engine.

1194
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:07,140
You must get out more things
have changed. Danny Kaye things

1195
01:04:07,140 --> 01:04:10,860
have changed since you've been
writing the history of music is

1196
01:04:10,860 --> 01:04:12,240
really quite quite different.

1197
01:04:13,980 --> 01:04:16,290
Well, that's for sure. And I
have to say that was actually

1198
01:04:16,290 --> 01:04:18,510
more amazed by the little
diesels that they had at Devolo

1199
01:04:18,510 --> 01:04:20,190
place than the Volvo's
themselves.

1200
01:04:20,580 --> 01:04:23,640
My first my first three cars
that I ever owned were all

1201
01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:26,760
Volvo's I I'm a big fan. I mean,
you don't get laid when you're

1202
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,290
driving a Volvo but well
actually

1203
01:04:28,290 --> 01:04:31,350
the new ones are pretty cool.
Since Ford took them over they

1204
01:04:31,350 --> 01:04:34,020
at least they have some lines
there's some we're getting nicer

1205
01:04:34,020 --> 01:04:35,700
not so boxy as they used to be

1206
01:04:35,700 --> 01:04:37,410
ugly. They're all ugly.

1207
01:04:38,220 --> 01:04:39,090
Oh no. Oh, they're

1208
01:04:39,090 --> 01:04:41,460
not pretty at all. No way.

1209
01:04:42,810 --> 01:04:47,010
No defect that big SUV one I
think is a nice car too.

1210
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:49,890
And by the way, you know I don't
give a crap about cars anymore.

1211
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,660
That just went away all of a
sudden I

1212
01:04:51,690 --> 01:04:54,600
just Yeah, apparently when your
wife sold the collection. Yeah.

1213
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,530
But it was kind of before that.
I mean, I didn't mind that much

1214
01:04:58,530 --> 01:05:01,710
going and you're probably right
who gives a shit about cars and

1215
01:05:01,710 --> 01:05:04,950
now I don't even want to drive.
Let someone else drive me. I'm

1216
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:05,610
so yeah, well as

1217
01:05:05,610 --> 01:05:08,610
you in the limo. Now I don't
have a limo. I don't have which

1218
01:05:08,610 --> 01:05:13,320
route which reminds me of
interesting observation. Okay,

1219
01:05:13,740 --> 01:05:15,960
so we did cranky geeks last
Wednesday.

1220
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,690
Yes. Which, by the way, thank
you very much from a habit for

1221
01:05:18,690 --> 01:05:21,270
having me on. I thoroughly
enjoyed myself and I was

1222
01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:25,470
Leo Laporte on at the same time,
and everyone was jacked up about

1223
01:05:25,470 --> 01:05:29,490
thinking that was going to be
good. And, and it was, it was a

1224
01:05:29,490 --> 01:05:32,070
good conversation, Leo was at
one of his he was at his best

1225
01:05:32,070 --> 01:05:36,330
because Leo actually is very
knowledgeable. And some times

1226
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,330
it's fun to listen to him, you
know, he's looking at stuff all

1227
01:05:39,330 --> 01:05:41,820
the time. Sometimes it's fun to
hear what he actually thinks.

1228
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,950
So, but but there was a there's
a moment there at that. And I've

1229
01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:49,140
done this a million times,
because if you work in radio or

1230
01:05:49,140 --> 01:05:53,010
broadcasting ever, this this
kind of thing comes up, where

1231
01:05:53,010 --> 01:05:59,670
Leo had gone into a little
commentary about how your limo

1232
01:05:59,670 --> 01:06:03,990
and entourage was blocking the
street, out in front of the

1233
01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:07,170
place and it was a pain in the
butt for him to find a place to

1234
01:06:07,170 --> 01:06:11,400
park and he was moaning about it
and I of course shows I

1235
01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:15,660
you threw some some gas on the
fire there. I immediately

1236
01:06:15,660 --> 01:06:21,780
without missing a beat added to
the to the malarkey by going on

1237
01:06:21,780 --> 01:06:24,240
about the fact that you're there
was a stretch Hummer or

1238
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,160
something. I don't know what it
was just a bunch of icing, you

1239
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,590
know, I can't believe you know,
I know, as long as I've known

1240
01:06:28,590 --> 01:06:32,550
this guy, Adam, I can't believe
the crap that he's always

1241
01:06:32,550 --> 01:06:36,750
driving around with a bunch of
girls on my wish list. I was. So

1242
01:06:36,750 --> 01:06:38,850
anyway, so I could go on and on
like this. And I really I was

1243
01:06:38,850 --> 01:06:42,690
thinking about that. Only in
radio or even TV where you're

1244
01:06:42,690 --> 01:06:47,250
actually doing a show about
facts. Can you go off with a

1245
01:06:47,250 --> 01:06:50,460
bunch of bull? That's got
nothing to do with anything.

1246
01:06:50,460 --> 01:06:54,600
It's just clowning around. And
you know, playing you know, Stan

1247
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,970
Freeburg kind of ad libbing
because you can do anything you

1248
01:06:56,970 --> 01:07:00,180
want to Yeah, we've done this on
radio before. Like, you'll sit

1249
01:07:00,180 --> 01:07:04,170
on a radio show with somebody
and say, so do you always sit in

1250
01:07:04,170 --> 01:07:08,310
the studio like this naked?
Right? And if the guy picks up

1251
01:07:08,310 --> 01:07:10,740
on what you're where you're
headed with this humour? He

1252
01:07:10,740 --> 01:07:13,650
goes, Yeah, I usually do. I
sometimes I wear a jock strap.

1253
01:07:13,650 --> 01:07:15,990
And most of the time I just kind
of nice to be here. And you know

1254
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:20,490
what? The studio is so warm in
here that I had really this more

1255
01:07:20,490 --> 01:07:22,380
comfortable with the naked
because I when I was wearing

1256
01:07:22,380 --> 01:07:24,060
clothes, I'd always be sweating
a lot.

1257
01:07:24,210 --> 01:07:26,970
It's Theatre of the mind, John,
that's what it is. Right?

1258
01:07:26,970 --> 01:07:27,630
Exactly. And so but

1259
01:07:27,630 --> 01:07:31,260
you do this and then you do
like, you can't do this with

1260
01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:34,650
writing. There's this kind of
thing and what is the public

1261
01:07:34,650 --> 01:07:38,250
think? You know, I'm always it's
like, this isn't this is not

1262
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,940
none of this is factual. It's
all just bull. And is it I'm

1263
01:07:41,940 --> 01:07:43,320
always wondering how

1264
01:07:44,070 --> 01:07:47,190
I think they're I think they're
immune to it. I think it's just

1265
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:47,340
there.

1266
01:07:48,030 --> 01:07:50,460
Does anybody believe it? I mean,
how many people were listening

1267
01:07:50,460 --> 01:07:52,830
to that thought that you did
have a limo parked out there

1268
01:07:52,830 --> 01:07:55,260
blocking traffic? I wonder?

1269
01:07:56,430 --> 01:08:00,510
I think there's certainly a fair
amount of people who would buy

1270
01:08:00,510 --> 01:08:02,460
it? I think so.

1271
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,910
I think so too. And it's
disturbing

1272
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:13,830
Well, guess what, folks? It's
not true.

1273
01:08:14,670 --> 01:08:17,430
Now you walk or actually you
came over in the car with the

1274
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:18,240
wrong Yeah,

1275
01:08:18,270 --> 01:08:21,540
no, but I walk everywhere now. I
don't own a car in San Francisco

1276
01:08:21,540 --> 01:08:27,510
anymore. They compact a trinity.
I think my my, my diesel. My bio

1277
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:29,370
diesel stationwagon.

1278
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,320
Bio Diesel is the way to go in
California. Yeah, it smells like

1279
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,510
a french fry machine was on the
street

1280
01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:40,260
was lovely. I loved her so much.
But it's just a hassle. It was

1281
01:08:40,290 --> 01:08:43,260
it was just an old car. That's
the problem. Old cars, you know,

1282
01:08:43,470 --> 01:08:47,490
big hassle. No good. And now my
daughter, of course. You know,

1283
01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:50,730
she's about to take her test for
her licence if she wants a car.

1284
01:08:50,730 --> 01:08:54,480
And this is a huge I think
conundrum is the is the right

1285
01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:58,890
word. I said, Well, look, I
don't drive at all. I'll give

1286
01:08:58,890 --> 01:09:01,380
you the Jag. You know, you can
I'll put it in your name. You

1287
01:09:01,380 --> 01:09:04,350
can have it. And she's like, No,
I don't want the Jag. I want a

1288
01:09:04,350 --> 01:09:08,220
nice little cute, girly car. And
that's what every parent doesn't

1289
01:09:08,220 --> 01:09:10,920
want. I don't want my kid
driving around some fucking Tin

1290
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,340
Can you know, I wanted to have
some, you know? In fact, I'd

1291
01:09:14,340 --> 01:09:17,220
like you to drive a tank
honestly. Yeah.

1292
01:09:18,689 --> 01:09:22,409
Here's a Sherman tank. Pull this
way you do it as you pull this

1293
01:09:22,409 --> 01:09:25,319
way to go right and you pull on
this other track. It goes left

1294
01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:25,769
here have

1295
01:09:25,770 --> 01:09:29,880
a Hummer baby, please drive oh,
by the way in the UK, you know

1296
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,990
they had that congestion charge.
You know about this, where you

1297
01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:36,780
have to pay money to drive into
the city if you come within a

1298
01:09:36,780 --> 01:09:41,280
certain zone. So now they want
to change that to the co2

1299
01:09:41,310 --> 01:09:46,380
emissions charge. And depending
on the type of automobile you

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01:09:46,380 --> 01:09:53,580
have, the daily rate will be 25
pounds $50 to drive into the

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01:09:53,580 --> 01:09:59,130
city $50 and Porsche is now
going to sue the city if they

1302
01:09:59,130 --> 01:10:02,820
actually make this happen. but
they don't want all their

1303
01:10:02,850 --> 01:10:06,630
clientele to be screwed. But
it's just interesting to see

1304
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:09,630
that, you know, the co2
emissions and I put lots of

1305
01:10:09,630 --> 01:10:12,900
question marks, you know about
the measurement of this stuff

1306
01:10:12,900 --> 01:10:16,020
and, and what it really means
and you know, what does it

1307
01:10:16,020 --> 01:10:18,120
really mean to global warming?
And of course, I have my own

1308
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,990
questions about global warming
in general. It's just, yeah,

1309
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:23,370
it's, it's messed up.

1310
01:10:24,780 --> 01:10:28,800
Yeah, well, a lot of people
think it's just a scam. I mean,

1311
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,710
there's like, I think there is a
climate change happening, you

1312
01:10:31,710 --> 01:10:34,260
can tell it. I mean, you've
talked to winemakers anywhere in

1313
01:10:34,260 --> 01:10:37,200
the world, I'll tell you this,
those things have changed. But

1314
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,040
as improved things for the most
part of wine, that's the goal.

1315
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,830
Yeah. Especially the German
wines, man. These things have

1316
01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:48,240
come on really is not all German
wines, which is always like, you

1317
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,540
know, they've always made good,
sweet, white wines that Reds

1318
01:10:51,540 --> 01:10:54,630
have never been any good. But
now, but and even this weak

1319
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:57,930
whites are always kind of, you
know, hit and miss. But in the

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01:10:57,930 --> 01:11:02,370
last, nonetheless, almost up to
the last 10 years. They're

1321
01:11:02,370 --> 01:11:06,780
making tremendous red wines,
which is really weird. Nobody

1322
01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:09,960
even believes it until it's
proven to them. And they're

1323
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,530
making this just one great
vintage after another of some of

1324
01:11:13,530 --> 01:11:17,400
these term, just terrific, white
wines that are just and they're

1325
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,370
well priced and descent. vend is
kind of an overlooked area,

1326
01:11:20,370 --> 01:11:22,170
because if people don't
understand them, they keep

1327
01:11:22,170 --> 01:11:27,180
changing their labelling laws.
And just stunned stunned and I

1328
01:11:27,180 --> 01:11:29,460
think this the same thing is
going to happen in Oregon,

1329
01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:33,630
Washington, especially Oregon
pinos and maybe burgundy it

1330
01:11:33,630 --> 01:11:36,180
looks like burgundy is having a
string of really great ended,

1331
01:11:36,180 --> 01:11:40,470
which is an area that make Pinot
Noir. And it's always under ripe

1332
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:43,500
and crappy for the most part if
they're really good ones. And

1333
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:43,590
are

1334
01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:46,470
these are these young vintages
that you're talking about that

1335
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:48,180
are really good are the older
vintages?

1336
01:11:48,210 --> 01:11:51,570
No, no, that starting around in
Burgundy, it started around I'm

1337
01:11:51,810 --> 01:11:57,570
at about 99 You know, something
like that maybe nice 95. And I

1338
01:11:57,630 --> 01:12:01,350
think it's somewhere somewhere
around the mid 90s. Or but but

1339
01:12:01,380 --> 01:12:05,970
by the beginning of the turn of
the century, it was almost like

1340
01:12:05,970 --> 01:12:09,810
they're hitting every year as a
great year. 2005 being the most

1341
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:15,150
recent Super year in Burgundy,
Bordeaux and everyplace else.

1342
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,380
It's just you know, you just
drink these wines. When you get

1343
01:12:19,380 --> 01:12:21,750
a hold of one even though
they're not ready to drink yet.

1344
01:12:22,170 --> 01:12:25,020
And you go holy crap. I haven't
tasted anything like this

1345
01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:25,890
forever.

1346
01:12:26,430 --> 01:12:30,330
Well, next time. Next time I'm
in town. We'll have to have one

1347
01:12:30,330 --> 01:12:32,760
on you. You have not introduced
me to a good German wine.

1348
01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:39,000
Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah,
no, I did promise finding a good

1349
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,640
German wine in our restaurant in
San Francisco is probably a

1350
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,520
little difficult. Although I
think there's probably a few

1351
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:45,750
places that know what they're
doing.

1352
01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:48,420
So are we gonna we're gonna have
time to have dinner next week

1353
01:12:48,420 --> 01:12:51,150
before I head back. Yeah,
Wednesday would be Wednesday.

1354
01:12:51,180 --> 01:12:53,340
Okay, we should try one shoot
for Wednesday. You know what's

1355
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:55,860
around it, like around the area
and see if there's any place

1356
01:12:55,860 --> 01:12:58,260
that would have a German wine
because I mean, you don't knock

1357
01:12:58,260 --> 01:13:02,460
your socks off. Right? Good.
German wine is astonishing.

1358
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:07,110
Okay, we have to you know what,
John, what's amazing. We have

1359
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:12,150
done 73 minutes of show and we
have once again succeeded in not

1360
01:13:12,150 --> 01:13:14,340
talking about one single thing
we said we're going to talk

1361
01:13:14,340 --> 01:13:14,700
about,

1362
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,120
yeah, well, maybe next week.
Well, because I lost my notes

1363
01:13:18,150 --> 01:13:19,020
from it doesn't help.

1364
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,160
I do remember we're going to
talk about CDI. Remember that?

1365
01:13:23,580 --> 01:13:27,030
All CDI right? You see what I
mean? And let me write a note

1366
01:13:27,030 --> 01:13:28,230
down and put it someplace

1367
01:13:28,530 --> 01:13:31,920
where you'll we'll lose it.
Because our music is coming out

1368
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,860
John. That means it's time to
end the show. Unfortunately.

1369
01:13:35,130 --> 01:13:36,570
Yeah, the CD ROM is full.

1370
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:42,030
I actually what I have to do now
is I'm going to take out some

1371
01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:46,890
frozen frozen pizza. I'm going
to heat that up. I'm going to

1372
01:13:46,890 --> 01:13:51,870
watch these two movies you gave
me on the on CD CD ROM. I'm

1373
01:13:51,870 --> 01:13:55,920
going to watch those tonight.
DVD I'm sorry. And the

1374
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,210
conspiracy shit right

1375
01:13:58,440 --> 01:14:02,160
now just actually documentaries.
You're a big fan of the of the

1376
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:03,120
document. I

1377
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,670
love the documentary. No,

1378
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,660
I should I will have that frozen
pizza. I gotta go do tech five.

1379
01:14:09,660 --> 01:14:10,860
I'm behind again.

1380
01:14:10,889 --> 01:14:15,839
Oh, my Holy moly. All right,
John. Thank you very much. Thank

1381
01:14:15,839 --> 01:14:19,259
you, everybody who's been
listening. We'll do again next

1382
01:14:19,259 --> 01:14:20,009
week coming.

1383
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,160
Before you sign off, which
you're gonna do in a second. I

1384
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,680
want to remind everyone I've
actually we've got a tech five

1385
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:31,650
report.com website is Te ch
FIV report.com Which we're

1386
01:14:31,650 --> 01:14:33,630
experimenting with. You should
check it out. Okay.

1387
01:14:33,660 --> 01:14:38,490
And also, you should look at
divorce act.org/cage match where

1388
01:14:38,490 --> 01:14:43,080
you can get the full show notes
for each individual. No agenda

1389
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,790
since of course I'm too lazy to

1390
01:14:44,790 --> 01:14:48,810
do it. But it loves doing it and
he's our he's our hero,

1391
01:14:48,839 --> 01:14:50,069
Bubba the love sponge.

1392
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,660
That Baba told us never heard
that. No.

1393
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,390
Oh man in every day of course.
Remember we were talking about

1394
01:14:57,390 --> 01:14:58,380
morning zoos.

1395
01:14:59,190 --> 01:15:01,440
The right one Have those morning
zoo cat characters?

1396
01:15:01,470 --> 01:15:05,070
There's always a guy out there
on sticker patrol. We got Bubba

1397
01:15:05,070 --> 01:15:07,170
the love sponge Baba, come on
in.

1398
01:15:08,700 --> 01:15:11,430
Cool. Yeah, sure bubble love
this attention. Sure

1399
01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:16,290
he will. Alright everybody.
That's it for for another week.

1400
01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:19,650
And thank you very much for
listening from the curry condo

1401
01:15:19,650 --> 01:15:21,750
overlooking the bay. I'm Adam
curry,

1402
01:15:22,140 --> 01:15:25,470
and from Northern California.
I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk

1403
01:15:25,470 --> 01:15:25,530
to

1404
01:15:25,530 --> 01:15:27,600
you again next week on no
agenda.