It's the end of the week. And once again, it's time for those
two single guys to hang out and talk together. Their
relationship is completely platonic. However, they do have
their own favourite restaurant that they call their place. It's
no commercials, no music, no jingles and absolutely no agenda
overlooking the bay, the curry condo. I'm Adam curry,
and I'm on the other side of the bay in the cheap seats. I'm John
C. Dvorak.
Hey, Johnny. How you doing, baby?
Yeah, there's that voice that Calacanis likes. Ah,
I gotta watch that. It's getting too much of a habit. Hey, man,
good to talk to you not like we haven't been talking all week.
But at least now, isn't it crazy that we've seen each other at
least? Was it three times this week?
We've had let's see every day always roaming around. Yeah, we
we've had dinner we hang out in the stairwell together. And then
what whatever that means. And then and then we sit down to do
the show and and we go to our own individual homes.
weird about that. It's crazy. So the finance people out there
should know that. The if you're working at this pot show company
the way you have meetings with Adam curry, is that Adam
apparently has been unable to break the habit of imbibing in
cigarettes. Yeah,
well it's not cigarettes it's a roll my own tobacco it's a
little different.
He rolls his own tobacco which is which is old school my Yeah,
my grandfather used to do that with Bull Durham. And I think my
dad even did for a while but whatever the case is, it's a you
know the kind of roll your own and then but dead but since
there's there's no smoking environment, he goes into the
stairwell. And so he smokes that in there. So if you want to have
a meeting with him, you can go in there because there's you
know, nobody knows, you know, it's just like the stairwells.
But actually quite
interesting. Nice though, because you get my undivided
attention, don't you?
You get undivided attention a and it's also actually not a bad
place to have a meeting, except for the fact that places the
stairwell is probably miked.
You know, I've gotten so much grief a first of all smoking
there because we're on the second floor. So there's two
more floor floors below us. And they don't like the smell and
they don't like the noise and I completely ignored.
I was pumped they had some some of those bubble wrap. Yeah, but
it was not the but it was wasn't a little bubble rush those big
giant ones, like giant pillows. And so and I love those things.
I get them all the time. And if you if you jump on one of them,
it sounds like a like a shotgun blast.
It was no it wasn't a shotgun blast, but it was pretty damn
loud. When's the last time you you pulled the trigger on a
shotgun? Man that's a lot louder than that.
And I pulled the trigger on a shotgun recently. Yeah, really?
Yeah. No, I always you always have the headphones on, you
know?
Where do you go shoot and
last time I went shooting was down. There's a there's a
shooting place down south of Los Gatos. It's kind of a high end
place. I went shooting with somebody, and who had a great
collection of all these people that they don't even like to
talk about it but a lot of these gun guys in Silicon Valley that
have these cars and they got the money. So they have these
collections of some amazing firearms that are extremely
expensive. Yeah,
like anywhere between 20,200 $1,000
unblemished I don't remember anything that quite that high.
Some 40 fives that were just I looked them up afterwards
extremely expensive.
You got any of your own hardware.
Also, you know I shot at cost shool what's the is that? I
think it's a consumer masu when he says there's two there are
two really powerful guns one was the most powerful handgun in the
world that could blow your head clean off but it wasn't a 44
Magnum it was this other thing called a stool or merge call a
fireball who makes it and and it's extremely amazing to shoot
it also makes a big fireball out the front. That's for shooting
bears. Who makes no no sorry, who makes this a Russian
Russian? I don't know who makes it. I'd have to look it up. I
bet getting caught off guard here. But certainly anybody out
there knows about guns knows about this thing. And then there
seems to be on the edge of that was designed to be on the edge
of like either firing this this big bullet at high velocities or
blowing up the gun and killing you at the same time. Oh, that's
so I spread out the edge of that possibility. And then I shot an
elephant gun.
Holy shit that that must have set you back.
It was funny because you when you shoot it you have a that you
get all you put a big pat on because this thing is your
shoulder. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you put this huge
thing on, and then you shoot the thing. And if you can manage the
stand up. You're a lucky lucky camper.
Oh shit who's calling you now? Don't they know we're doing no
agenda? Don't they know it's Friday? I'm gonna hang up. No,
no. If it's your wife, then pick it up. It's okay. If it's not
Meanwhile, we'll just we'll just play a little bit of hold music
while John is checking out who's on. Maybe we'll get that out the
back. Oh, okay. I'm sorry.
I was. So anyway, let's get that out if you can, but if you don't
have to, I'm not gonna cut anything out. That's work. Are
you crazy? And okay, well anyway, so. So anyway, so I shot
this thing, and I actually hit the target. And the guy says,
believe me, which wasn't an easy thing to do, because the hold
this thing steady, because it weighs like 100 pounds, you
know, you're holding it, you're just kind of hoping that as you
as you pass across the target with the muzzle that you might
get lucky and hit this target. I'll tell you this. I don't know
you're always aware of something when
when I went to Iraq, and if I ever told you the story, you
were there for a whole week or actually 10 days and the day
before we were supposed to leave the Dutchman Marines who had
been with we know of course, you're in the desert, you know,
so you there's a there's a brotherly thing that happens
obviously, when you're in that situation. And he said, Alright,
guys, today, final day, we're going to go and we're gonna go
do something special. And they had to land rovers and one of
the Land Rovers had a little, little cart behind it. A little,
little trailer. And they took us into, not far from the from the
base camp, actually into the desert. And turned out they took
us to their practice shooting range, they took the tarp off of
this trailer. John, there were like 20 AKs in there. They were
tech nines. Oh, nice. hand grenades. And I was amazed how
hard it is to hit something with a machine gun. It's really
difficult. Yeah, so basically, you know, what they do is they
put spoiled water in water bottles, they line those up. And
you know, when you first you tried in single shot mode, I'm
actually I'm a pretty good shot, actually single shot mode. I'm
good and I can hit some stuff. And then it's like, okay, that
was fun now squeezes fucker off, empty it. And okay, and like,
and I didn't hit anything. It's really hard to aim with a
machine gun. It's not easy.
I shot a Mac as a friend of mine had had a he has a collection of
gangster guns. And he had a Mac 1009 That little crazy little
thing. He's got no targeting IRA, and it just spits bullets
every which way just it's a worst dog of a gun. I mean, it's
just as stupid as thing. It's kind of fun to shoot. But
anyway, back to my elephant gun. So I shoot this elephant gun,
right so bang hit this. Pipe padding and all the rest of it.
The next day. My entire chest was one huge brew. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. Oh, and that was through the padding. I mean, it was just
like I look I wish I get out of taking a shower look in the
mirror, go holy crap, hold right side of my, my buys a big giant
bruise from this thing.
I gotta tell you, I own a couple of guns, but they're mainly
collector's items. And although the I have a side by side 20
gauge, which has been in the family for a long time, and I
have shot that and I still have ammo for it. But I've been lucky
enough to go out with a couple of folks in England, which of
course, you know, quintessential hunting, right? These guys
really know. I mean, you got gun clubs that are just
unbelievable. And, you know, the way they treat these shotguns it
you know, it's like, here's my baby. And you know, and you
don't want to put your finger on anything. But exactly. Here's
where you hold it because you could ruin some of the of the
beautiful detailing on the on the side of it. And yeah, it's a
great experience. But I have to, I have to admit, after only an
hour of shooting, I was hurting. I was really, really hurting my
shoulder. And same thing you know, you wake not as bad as the
elephant gun, I'm sure but you wake up and you definitely have
a bruise.
Yeah, it's one of those things you Yeah, it's it's, it hasn't
they have kicks a lot of them. Some of them you know, if you
have your whole shotgun, right, you shouldn't really get too
beat up by it. But anyway, so what else is going on this week?
Well, we had a let me think, well, we actually had a quick
chat in the stairwell today. And it was like, Oh, we got to talk
about this. Talk about that. And let me see you lost the notes is
Oh,
yeah, yeah, no, and now come up with them. And of course,
they'll be meaningless in about two or three more days.
I remember what we were talking about. We were talking about
CDI not wait, stop, stop. Let's stop to stop everything. I know
exactly what we should talk about your last entry into the
United States. Oh, yes.
Oh, okay. Good. Yeah. Well, it was it was new this time. And I
did talk about it briefly on the daily source code, but I didn't
get into into everything. So here I am. I go, you know, de
plane. I line up and it's funny because I was you know, I
avoided the woman as you suggested, there was a woman, a
female Customs Border Patrol agent. I avoided her and
unfortunately, the one that opened up looked like a really
cranky guy. So I walked up to him and said, Hey, how you
doing? Good afternoon or good? Yeah, good afternoon. Top of the
morning. Gov Top of the morning. How you doing? They always say,
How long are you gonna be here. So then I put that up and put
down my passport, he sees that I'm American. And he goes to the
computer. And uh, once again, that bewildered look and the
tap, tap, tap tap that this guy did something different, he
picked up the phone. And he called someone, and this other
guy came over. And now two of them are in this little cube
cubicle looking at looking at the screen, and it Gosh, it's so
it's so annoying that you can't see what's happening on the
screen because they have those anti glare filters. And, and
then the other agent says, he says, baggage check. And so the
guy writes down BG on my customs form. And then he crosses it out
by his own accord, they get the other guy left, and he puts an M
on it, which and I know what that is, by the way, I'll get to
that in a second. So of course, go get my bag. And then I walk
up to the to the officer and I said that I think I'm good for a
secondary, I got another W another upside who actually
said, seeing if you if I could get a reaction if it was
supposed to be a WR Nm. And it said, so I'll just go over to
the C area because I know the whole drill now he's like, hey,
it doesn't happen often. This is before I get to the secondary
screening. And so yeah, this is like the eighth time says, you
know, maybe your passport number is similar to something else.
That's what it could be, you should ask the officer. So,
Officer Okada. I think he might have been Hawaiian, maybe sound
he look look like he might might have been from Hawaii. And he
was kind of slow. And he was asking me questions. And and he
was going, huh, it says, And he started asking an array of
really interesting questions. And he got a new email. I'm
really friendly. I'm telling him about, you know how this has
happened before. And he says, oh, wait a minute, I can't log
in on this machine. We can actually log in ourselves,
please come over to this side, where the other guy was still
logged in or something really unprofessional stuff. And he
says, Okay, do you have any other ID on you? And I go
through the whole thing again, so well, you can ask for a
business card. Here's my business card. Do you have
another picture ID? I said? No. All I got is my my Dutch
driver's licence, which works all over the world. And he said,
Yeah, you don't have a California driver's licence.
Now. I don't. Any other picture ID No, no, but here's my pilot's
licence. I love pulling that one out. I
love I wonder, I wonder if a Costco card would count. Does
this does have a
picture on it? Yeah. Oh, really? I gotta get one. I gotta get a
Costco card. And he says, Have you ever been to Nebraska? Now?
This is the first time I've got a question like this, right? I'm
like Nebraska wild? Yeah. Like, no. Do you know, Laura Rand, who
has a who has a private aircraft? Like? No, I don't
think so. Actually, I was I was a little stupid er than that. I
said, Well, you know, I fly myself. So navy. I've
never met her in the bar. Yeah, in jail.
And he was actually was quite friendly. And it's funny,
because this is he's tapping around in this thing. He's like,
he started telling his own life story to me, which I found
pretty incredible. He says, you know, I'm actually I got into
this a couple of years ago, because there was this, I used
to work for Honda USA. And I found out that the management
was skimping on security measures to save money. And I
was a whistleblower. And I always wanted to be in law
enforcement. I'm like, all he needs now is a big bunch of
keys. You know, it's like, this is the perfect guy for this job.
And, and I said, you know, I would really appreciate it if
you could, you know, if you could tell me a little bit about
what's what's going on, because not knowing what's happening is
pretty much the worst thing. He says, Well, you got a match. And
of course, now that now I know that's what the M stands for.
And I said, Well, what do you mean? He says, Well, we are
looking for someone who had and it goes in this order. He says
it goes last name, first name, birthdate. He says, we get three
matches, we get curry, Adam, and then your birthdate or something
very close to it. And so well, you know, I don't know what to
tell you, man. But every single time I'm I'm lead through and he
says, Well, let me go check with the TL. And I'm like, oh, that
you must meet the team leader. says yeah, yeah. So you go to
the team leader is the only one apparently who can log in deeper
into the system? And he says, oh, yeah, there's all kinds of
notes about you and all kinds of entries. Is it yet? Well,
clearly, that you're just matching very close to someone
that we're looking for. And
that may stop you here. So in other words, what you're saying
is that cuz you never mentioned this part. TL is a code word
that you could probably throw at people like for anyone trying to
get, you know, getting hassled, they say, Can I can? Can I talk
to the TL
Exactly. In fact, he suggested he said next time, this happens
when you walk up to the first agent, just ask for a TL. And
the TL can can can go right into the screen and we'll see all of
this information. So that's actually a really good thing.
But what is disconcerting is that there's apparently an Adam
curry out there, who they're looking for it And and actually
a number of listeners to the daily source code have done some
searches and they've come up with with, there's one guy who's
at Adam curry.net. And no one really thinks he's the right
guy. But there's another one that there's a closed off
MySpace page. Meaning you have to befriend the guy first, and
he has to befriend you. And it's a scary goatee wearing crazy
looking guy, as he as far as Braska. Yes. Braska Is he your
age though? Is he older? No, he's 23 Now that's what's kind
of freaky now 2343 Remember that could be No, it's still both
ends with a three. Of course I look 23 So you can only imagine
that that's there's some confusion there. But we know
this whole ordeal John took an hour and a half the longest I've
ever been at this guy was also just really really slow. So I
guess the next time I come in, I'll just try the TL thing if I
can talk to the team leader, but in the meantime, I'm going on a
quest I gotta find out who this Adam curry guy is in Nebraska.
It's bugging me. Yeah,
I would think so.
Interesting. And yeah, sorry.
At least they didn't shoot you
know they're not gonna shoot me. But I did. I did have I was glad
that they didn't open up my bag. Because I know that you know,
Patricia my wife I love her so much. She she had done it she
does something I always tell her not to do she'd put a whole
bunch of food in my bag like cheese and stuff all the stuff
you're not allowed to take take into the country. Oh, that's
funny. Yeah, they didn't open it up though. So I've been enjoying
some nice Gouda cheese here during my stay.
You know we do have Gouda cheese here in the Bay Area we can get
I
you know what, John? The way you are with wine. I am with cheese.
I am I have to say a cheese expert.
Well I can be you where you get your cheese in in England.
That is well sometimes we're lucky and we can find it at
Sainsbury's. They might have a good we've done a lot of
experimentation because we really into the aged Dutch
Gouda. So not the really really old age stuff, but you have to
have like, medium matured. And sometimes you can find a cheddar
that comes kind of close. But by and large Hey there it is. By
and large Hold
on a second by doing that the date. Okay, go on
when I said it. Yeah, okay, by and large marks and sparks Marks
and Spencer will have something
about Harrods, don't they? They will ask them I was the head is
huge. They do like a room of cheese. Yeah,
they do. And we've done some teas chased at tea, some cheese
tastings there. Because he they'll do that for you. And
I'll let me have a little bit of that. Let me try that some of
that we've gotten some fantastic Gouda from Harrods but Harrods
is in the city and we're you know we're we just live in
Guilford it's sticks and we are you know big consumers of cheese
we still have from Christmas. My sister Willow in Italy gave us
this huge chunk of parmesan cheese which is ah man. I mean I
can
great primary John from Italy it bought in Italy where you can't
have that stuff that you know people don't realise when you go
to a deli in Italy they'll have the whole place will be filled
with giant things that parmesan and there are like 100 different
versions of it. I mean different vendors.
I mean what you do is it's so good you just wind up you know,
like what can we make tonight that we could put parmigiana
and, and I find myself actually breaking off a hunk and just
eating it it's
the same thing but that's you can't actually that type of
parmesan that really good. Excellent primer John. I don't
think I've ever had it in this country. I just don't think they
bring I don't
I don't think you can get it. It has to almost grow and mature in
Italy otherwise it just doesn't work. You know, it's something
about it's like it's like great mozzarella is the same thing. I
find great Mozzarella in Italy. You just can't fit well
actually. There was a small place in New Jersey run by
Italians Of course. That came pretty close.
There is a Texas of all places in Dallas, Texas, there's a
place that makes cheeses outside of the that little funky little
area I can't think of the name of it. Deep Ellen it's in the
deep Belen area and there's a cheese maker in there then they
make a buffalo mozzarella the real stuff from water buffalo
milk. And it's absolutely one of the best cheeses I've ever had
in the country. But yeah, it's hard to come by but now we're
talking about food. I want to I might as well bring up this have
you noticed and I was just I don't know why this came to mind
but it did. Why it came to mind because I'd made some tea
earlier and then I just drink in it after I put the milk in
there. The bags are in there and I'm like you know took the bags
out with it. I when I was at the London book fair I was a number
of years ago when the first time I saw this and then I was
hanging out with some some Brits that are in the that were
working for Tech TV and I saw it again which is the the the
making of T shirts Well, where the milk is in the cup? Yeah,
it's tea bags put in and then the hot water is put on top of
that with the milk already in it.
Well actually, the way you're supposed to do it, I've been
told is you first put the sugar in, then you put the tea bag in,
then you put the milk in, and then you pour on the water.
That's the way I've been told.
This is a dis dis is not the right there's no way that that
could be an appropriate way to make tea. It did it never will
brew
right? Well, it's not the way I like to make tea. But it's I
have heard that you certainly need to put sugar first, then
milk, maybe
you're beside the point. Once that oil of the milk is inside
the tea that you can't get penetration you can't get the
kind of extract penetration you want I'm saying is that you get
this oily coating on top of those tea leaves has got to
prevent it. But the proper extraction of the tea elements
fraught with the boiling water just doesn't make any sense that
you would do this or seen it before. Some recently, I was
told had something to do with acidic quality of something I
don't exactly remember what
somebody's gonna have to give us a lowdown on. It's only recent
that I've ever seen this. I've been going to England for 30
years. And it's not like I've ever seen this before. And I'm
seeing you and I'm seeing you, but but dislike. And I have to
say this. I'm not seeing it being done by anyone over the
age of 30.
I'll say one thing that really bugs the hell out of me.
Americans who walk around the office with a huge oversized mug
of tea with a tea bag hanging out that pisses me off.
Why?
Because it's literally stupid. It's lame. You don't leave your
tea bag in it and you'll see women doing it more than men
actually. And it's kind of like this. It's almost like a like a
yuppie thing but it is so incredibly lame. How can you
walk around with a tea bag still in and while you're drinking it
like it's supposed to get better with it. As you get to the
bottom? It's it makes no sense to me why people do this. You've
never seen her no,
no. Well, I mean, I'm sure I've I may have but I haven't really
noticed it and I've not been as annoyed.
Oh, you are Oh, big annoyance.
I don't think it's that big any worse than the guy with the big
giant oversized Maga coffee just. Yeah.
How about this TL reports. By the way, I'm drinking some
Yorkshire I'm sorry, Sainsbury red label that you recommend
Patricia gave.
Recommended as anything good. I just recommend that.
It's not bad. I'm liking it.
A lot of people do like it. I've had it numerous times. I was
going to move some from me so I can remind myself when you
switched over to the PG Tips gold,
or you should have told me I have a whole bunch. I'll bring
something Monday for
you. Okay, well, I'll be back on Tuesday. You won't be there. No,
I'm gonna be
in LA on Tuesday. I'll be in Wednesday, Wednesday, I'll bring
it in.
I'll bring it whatever. But anyway, the point is, is that
I've really pretty much switched over to PG Tips. Gold, which is
there. Yeah. Now I'm 50 cents.
What I'd like you to just now that you had a chance to see a
chart, what do you think of my new setup that I've been harping
on? I'm so proud of I showed it to you today at the office. Have
you talked about this on the daily source code?
Well, yeah, to a certain extent, but you know, I don't want to
bore people with with the technicalities of it. So I
thought maybe it'd be fun if you could just tell people your
impression you said something
done. Even though you know, we're just to the eavesdroppers
out there who really care. I don't know how many there are
someone shares it he's managed to put a number of software
packages in a linked manner that turns his Apple Macintosh annual
you can do every once a while, you know, I've seen rant million
ways you could do that you can get cakewalk, you can do this
you can do that. I have never seen anything quite as
spectacular as this lash up, which includes a little piece of
hardware that you got from some German company, which is your
unique device to say the least. And you're also using software
that not a lot of people are aware which is also German,
almost everything you've got is German and then you've managed
to hook it all together and some virtuals sense and it's it's
it's a phenomenal lash up maybe the best I've ever seen for a
portable lash. I mean it's beyond anything, anything
commercially available. It's amazing
what was what was funny what you said today when I was showing it
to you because essentially what I you know, the the big deal
about this is that you know now I have like a tactile control
over the software because I'm using the fader Fox, external
midi controller so I have real faders and they don't do
anything. They don't control any actual volume other than
controlling the software that controls volume. So I have these
faders that go up and down and have a cross fader which allows
me to with my thumb kind of switch between you know views so
I can go to a like a cart deck if you will, so can fire off
different do For an audio files, and you said, All you need now
is like the cymbals between your knees in like a one man band,
you know, I got the drum pumping on my foot, I've got the cymbals
between my knees, and it's true, but it is it's working. And I've
been doing these live shows, which, you know, to some degree
or, you know, it all depends on how good the content is,
obviously, but the the ability to, you know, to just bring
someone live, it's it is exactly what I've always wanted, I have
a radio studio in one box on my computer, it has taken me years
to get this far. And I'm
just you claiming it took you three years to put this
together? Well, and it's
not just understanding how to put it together. But it's really
been a combination of the hardware and the software all
coming together in this wonderful Nexus and it's just
barely making it, you know, the, the processor is really taxed.
But to do it without any latency or almost zero latency. In other
words, when I speak, I'm hearing my voice slightly delayed in my
headphones, but I am hearing the full output signal including all
the processing, so I know what people are going to hear when
they listen to it at home. And that of course, because what
people don't realise is and I think in podcasting, people
don't realise this, that there's more to it than just okay, I got
a microphone, I can play something, it's that mix, you
know, I'm literally creating an end mix while I'm doing all of
this and that and that's always been that's what I would have
done on my life, you know, is I want to create this one sound of
everything that all kind of flows together, and you have to
be able to manipulate the the levels even it's minut. But
still, those levels are very important.
Yeah, no, I think you've nailed it. I mean, I that But listening
to just you know, running through it. It has a slick
professional studio sound. That sound indicates you got two or
three engineers working on it. I mean, it's just amazing. No, I'm
saying
so. We're gonna patent it. The Absolutely.
It's a patentable thing, I think because I sent you an email. I
don't know if you got it. Yeah, I did. was about to pat and
somebody sent us a note on Yeah. And as soon as I saw that, it's,
it's unbelievable that we're gonna patent everything. We
might
as well. We could be rich from the show, John. Oh, we have to
do is patent the process.
It's, it's doable. Yeah. If there's something unique about
it hasn't been done before.
So you've done anything else this week? The outside of you've
been in the office a lot, actually. Is that just to please
me? Yeah. Ever. Only when I'm in
the office, I go on the ice because we're trying to get some
stuff done. And I can actually sometimes get more work done in
the office, but I can't do in the time with that office. That
is it's noisy. And when the programmers in the afternoon
about for some reason, about two or three o'clock in the
afternoon, they start getting boisterous. It's really weird,
good word and boys. And once in a while today, it wasn't the
case. They were all I don't know where they were. But Sunday's
programmers are extremely noisy and they start yucking it up and
they make a lot of racket. Yeah, but they're having a good time.
Because they seem to be Yeah, maybe they should be programming
more than having lessons.
What am I saying? Oh, you know what you mean, luckily,
only one programmer in that place listens to this show.
It's too bad that that you weren't in the office this
afternoon, because there was an amazing guy. His name is Steve
spinner. And I don't know if you know his name. He has been
around the valley for a long time, I think is his wife is a
partner at one of the big law firms here in the Valley. And
Ron knows, and he's had dinner with him a couple of times.
Yeah, he's affiliated with Kleiner, Perkins, etc. But he is
he's been working in the Obama camp. In fact, I think that he I
don't know the exact number, but I think he's responsible for
raising several million dollars worth for this campaign, which
is, you know, and I said, Oh, you're, you're a bundler. He
said, Oh, God, you know, the word, I hate that word so much,
because that's a bundler is so so the maximum amount you can
donate to a campaign, in fact, it's $2,300. You can do it, if
someone's running. I'm not quite sure what the rules are. But the
maximum that gets is 4600. In Obama's case, because you can
donate to the primary and whatever. So, um, there's a
limit to it. So when you hear someone say, you know, the
fundraiser, you know, raised a million dollars, what that means
is, someone stood at the door, and took $2,300 checks from each
individual that came in because, you know, legally, you just
can't give out any more money. And you know, and so that's
called bundling. And then you hand off this bundle of checks,
and you know, that amount. So if you if you get 1000 of them,
then you have, you know, $2.3 million and that's how this
money is raised. It's not like, you know, some, some person can
write a million dollar check, which I think by the way, a lot
of people don't know know that that works that way here in the
in the United States. And he had some fascinating, absolutely
fascinating stories to tell. And I asked him point blank, I said,
you know, so are you guys worried about about the super
delegates who of course have the opportunity to vote for
whichever candidate they want, regardless of what what took
place in the primary? He said absolutely not Obama is in it's
done. He even expects that Hillary will drop out in a week
and a half.
After the Ohio, Ohio,
he says Ohio, he's pretty sure though, when he says Texas still
could be a close call, but he has the feeling that she'll drop
out either right before or right after, and he was giving me all
these all these quotes from mine. If you saw the debate last
night,
yeah. Well, I heard I saw the transcript. I didn't see the
debate.
You really miss a lot of context.
You know, I agree with that. But I don't have time to watch this
crap. So I mean, if I'm My money's on McCain anyway, so why
should I care? No, hold
on a second, because you still wrote down? And you predicted
that it would be Hillary and she would ask Obama to be VP?
Yeah, I'm sticking with that. Now, it's a long shot. It's,
it's a real long shot. And I said, so who's going to be the
Veep? They said, I don't know. We'll probably get some older
white guy from the south. And I said, How about Ron Paul?
You never let up but like that consistency.
He did not even not think that was funny, by the way. He said,
you know, Ron, Paul's anti Israel. I said, I don't know
about that. Man. I
don't think that's true. I think that's just a Ron Paul has been
besmirched.
Yeah. Well, it was days, that whole newsletter thing that has
been popping up for 10 years. So I didn't get into it with him.
But I did. I it was it was pretty awesome. He had he had
some really, really good stories. And he said, you know,
Clintons. They've been invited to the meeting anyway, didn't
miss anything. I would have totally introduce you to this
guy. He's awesome. And he's clearly well connected.
And everybody, Kleiner Perkins. Is there a bunch of the climate
lab? You don't realise a lot of these are some of the richest
people in the world over there. And they're, for the most part,
not all of them. But there's an awful the most active
politically active people over there all Democrats. Yeah.
Yeah, except for Ray Lane, who was who was our major guy at
Kleiner Perkins. He is a gun toting card carrying Republican
for sure.
He's one of the few. I think he's
the only one.
Yeah, no, the rest of them are all the big time, Denver. Big,
you know, the, you know, a lot of people don't realise they're
so well, you know, the Republicans represent the rich,
rich, super hyper rich people I know are all Democrats. Yep. And
you go to the du Pont's the Hirst's, all these people that
have like tonnes of money, are all Democrats. And I have my own
kind of basic theory about it. Let's hear out which way I don't
want to destroy the Democrats. But it's because they want to
keep every because the Democrats are really like status quo
committee. They don't want to bring anybody up and make them
rich. The Republicans want to make everybody rich, the
Democrats don't because the Democrats real voting base are
people with no money. That's where they get all their votes
from and they want to keep them there. Because if they got
money, they're gonna switch parties. Yeah. And so so it's
just like, you know, it's a no win situation. That's why I
think that party has to be dissolved. The Democratic Party?
Yeah, I think it's over. I don't think the party works anymore.
Well, you know,
if, if, if Hillary is, if so what was he saying? I'm trying
to think, Wait a minute, there was, oh, man, I'm trying to
think now. He said there was something that had never never
been done before. And if she pulled that trick, it would, it
would break up the party. It was something about some other type
of delegate, not the super delegates. More attention, he
had some other some other angle that the Clintons could
potentially pull to make, to still get the nomination. Bow
shoot, man, I'm sorry. I
think they're gonna well, you can, you'll find out later.
We'll talk about some other time. But I still think that she
has a shot at this, you know, sneaking out of this thing as a
winner.
Well, if I were her, though,
she doesn't have a choice. I mean, she said they're gonna
make it this time where she's never gonna make it.
No, but she could just save face and then go back and make New
York a great place. You know, you stop.
That was never the idea. No, it's not the idea. But
I think and they spent like $130 million. It's, it's obscene.
Well,
she can't stop now.
Obscene the amount? Well, of course, she can stop.
No, she's gonna have to stick this out. You think
she's going all the way? Wow. Well, according to Steve, it was
it was a no go. You said a week and a half and she's out. I
thought that was very interesting.
Well, I'm glad that they have hyper confidence in the whole
deal. I mean, I'm not taking bets on this, that's for sure.
I'm taking bets on the on the over All election but not about
who's going to win this part of it. But it would it would
actually surprise me. I mean, let's say this way, I wouldn't
be surprised if she somehow, you know, won anyway.
Well, there is a way for her to do it, apparently. So there was
still I
think the Republicans would rather have Obama running
because I think they can get more goods on him. So you have
to deal with
so you think that Well, I was gonna say so if Obama wins the
Democratic nomination, and let's say Hillary is not the VP he
gets some he gets some old white guy from the south, you still
think McCain will win? Oh, yeah. Really?
I don't think there's even a snowball's chance in hell that
he can win,
can't you he has the personality of a dish. rag man is just
bumming me out. Who?
McCain? Yeah. There's so many was doing an imitation of them.
Rush Limbaugh has got some guy who's ridicules him in this and
the voice is perfect. I think it's a voice I could do. I'm
going to work on it. Okay, good. Good. Good. Good. Whoo. That's
good. You know, it's better than the other voice that nobody
seems to like, at least your fans.
I will say that, you know, obviously, you know, I'm a
constitutionalist. And I would love nothing more than someone
who would at least attempt to bring back a lot of the concepts
of the Constitution. But if I had to choose between McCain and
Obama, I would much rather go with Obama, who has at least he
brings a positive vibe,
right now. But well, yeah, but you know, six months from now,
when they, when they go after him, and they start bringing
stuff out and the guy starts getting tired, you know, we're
gonna see a different Obama.
But he's a young guy, man, compared to McCain, 73. You
know,
I think he's going to be a better president in 2012, than
he's going to be this runner who if the Democrats get in because
of the natural economic cycle, if the Democrats get in, in this
year, and then the economy tanks, which is going to do no
matter whose walls can't stop, they're going to be blamed, and
they're never going to be another Democratic president in
our lifetime. The Democrats have to hope to God that they don't
win this time.
So what are we going to do for these four years when they're
when the economy tanks, we're just gonna have to let
it's gonna be a 10 year down cycle. So there's not going to
be a four year thing to worry about. Because this is the big
one. This is the 80 year cycle, there's an 80 year massive
depression cycle. That's worldwide, actually. And this is
the one coming up and it results in a 10 year stagnation period
of stagnation that is unbelievable. And even last
time, it happened in the 20s, or the 30s. Actually, we you know,
unemployment was around 40%. There are breadlines everywhere
have riots and all kinds of things. You know, it was it was
grim. And I don't see that being any different. And it usually
ends. By the way. American history is interesting, because
the 80 year cycle is always marked with a war at the end of
the the depression. And that we have, if you look at our if you
take the 80 years, you go to 1780, we had the American
Revolution, and you had 1860, then you have the wishes, the
Civil War, you had another 80 years, you got World War Two,
and you got another 80 years, which is 2020 and has some
admissions, that's like clockwork, the cycles and the
one end, it's always a bad situation. And this is what
we're going, we're headed toward, and if the Democrats are
in office, that's just they're gonna get blamed for everything.
The only
difference is, I believe, and certainly the data seems to
support it that this is not just the US tanking of the economy,
the entire world is about to just go into major
insert insular here in the US that we're not gonna we don't
care about the rest of the world anyway. Yeah, everything is
gonna go into the tank. Everything is like, you know, we
got all kinds of issues, China is gonna be really screwed. And
then we're gonna still blame whoever our president is. And if
it's Obama, that's going to be you're never gonna see another
Democrat ever. Huh?
Well, I don't know, man. I don't I don't know what to say. All I
know is
that that's all you know, hey, it's only a theory. And I'm just
really
worried because I'm seeing all of these all of these issues
with the credit crisis, which I think did we talked about this
early, maybe over dinner about the the auction based credit
that I tell you about that
you were talking a little bit about, I wasn't paying much
attention
so there's a $300 billion dollar credit marketplace which is
called the auction credit market. And the way it works is
actually the example that I read about someone sent it to me I
should look his email up the Port Authority in New York you
know, it's very by the way, you know, borrowing money to finance
you know, Debt Debt is important in running a company you know,
it's absolutely grow, you almost can't live without debt. There's
very few companies that can do it. It's just the way it works.
And there's a an auction based market, we can go say, All
right, I want to go buy some debt or I need or I need some
money. And it's an auction based system. So right yeah, no, I
remember all this funny story. So just imagine like an eBay
type system. Now, what has never happened before never ever, ever
in this auction based system is that someone said okay, I've got
some debt or I need to finance or I need to or I want To get
rid of this, an auction has never failed. Unfortunately, in
the fine print of all of these auction based credit vehicles,
it stated that if the auction fails, then all of a sudden the
interest rate goes up to 20%. And this just happened with the
New York Port Authority. And then auction failed, and now
they're screwed because they're sitting with this debt that is
costing them 20% in interest, and it's going to bring the
entire $300 billion auction based credit market down to its
knees because you know, no one no one trust debt anymore. They
don't know who to trust. It's all about the trust everyone's
no one's got good credit in the banking world, they're all
afraid to borrow from from each other.
Yeah, well, the banks are always behind these these problems.
Well, of course, you get greedy. The next thing, you know,
they're all thinking, Oh, they're my son is goes to the
school evergreen, which is a, I don't know if from what I can
tell it's a socialist institution. Damn, Damis. But,
you know, I kind of like think it's, you know, I think kids in
especially in college should, you know, get as much of this
out of their system as they can, yeah. But he gets he's taken an
economics course from some guy, who, I guess doesn't follow the
litany of all this and he's like, get this whole thing I get
I find out the details, because his whole theory of everything
is how Clinton is actually the guy responsible for the all his
economic turmoil that we're in. And based on the fact that
Clinton cut loose all those old rules from the 30s, you know,
that would keep us from going into a depression and, and all
that kind of stuff and let the banks do whatever they want.
Yeah. I mean, why is the Bank of it? You know, I remember when I
was a kid, and it was forever, you couldn't have any national
banks, you had, you know, the Bank of America was in
California, and Citibank was in New York, and there was banks
and all these different states. Now you go anywhere, you can
find a Bank of America or Citibank branch anywhere in the
whole country. So they'd be became consolidated. Now they're
all like, you know, the Bank of America has, you know, bought by
some other bank, which is bought another bank, and they're all
like consolidating this. Oh, but isn't
it just infant database is believable. So Northern Rock in
the UK was was nationalised, after all, which is surprising
to me, because I really thought Richard Branson had it locked
down with some Chinese money. I was wrong on that. Interesting
report, though, our friends from the register in the UK,
registered registered.co.uk had a post that there's two things
One is there's a paragraph in, in the in the documentation of
the nationalisation you know, documents, or whatever it is,
that says that the bank shall be exempt from any freedom of
information requests. Which I find highly suspicious. That's
weird. And the other thing that was kind of funny is the guy
they've parachuted in to run the bank is a non domicile resident.
Who wasn't Wolfowitz? Was it?
No, no, no, no, no, no, huzzah. I forget the name of the guy
should look it up. But he so he's going to be dealing with
all this, all that tax crap that I'm gonna go through in in a
couple of months when it happens. So that was kind of
ironic. But the fact that you can't do a Freedom of
Information request on him is, is interesting to say the least.
And I mean, I'm reminded of the just did this on tech five. The
guys who did wiki leak?
Yeah, that's the the the wiki site that had a whistleblower
site, right whistleblower
site. And so some judge because of some whistleblowing they did
about a Cayman Island bank. It wasn't even an American
property. Some American judge essentially shuts down the site,
which is like why, yeah, and then, you know, unless he had
money they were he was part of this scheme. So he shuts down
the site so they end up having to reposition the site and open
it up again in Sweden. Yep. By the guys who did pirates Bay.
Oh, you know, and I'm thinking I think I mentioned this is as
kind of pathetic when you know, the land of the free and the
home of the brave and we brag about free, free freedom over
me. We have to do our, our work in Sweden.
Yeah. Sweden, by the way, one of the few countries that did not
participate in a lot of the EU stuff, including the euro.
Yeah, they didn't, but they did join their members. Yeah.
Norway, which was the real smart money stayed out. And
Switzerland.
We got some feedback. People are getting much better out of John.
They're in and out. You want to want to hear one or two of
these. Yeah, sure. We're running. Okay, this is well,
I'll just run them we'll see what we got here. I
Adam Hi, John. Mike pico here. Love to get your take on On this
story, because I really love listening to no agenda and the
directions that you guys take a conversation. You can make the
inane, interesting. So I think there's a conflict anyway,
looking at a couple of recent news stories and seeing that,
you know, five cables, undersea cables were cut. And I've also
seen as many as nine, when I Googled it, some, some articles
are saying as many as nine have been cut somewhere. And then the
more recent spy satellite in in space was having a little bit of
trouble staying in orbit, and it effectively died, it was no
longer under control. And they, once they had a window, shut it
out of the sky. quite effectively, I might add, and
there's been speculation and I think I even heard Adam
mentioned it that that was kind of a big, here you go. We can do
it. Kiss RS, which I would tend to agree with. But when you
factor in the cables cut, I believe in one of the stories
that I read about those cables being cut as some of the traffic
was redirected to satellites. Is it mayor, does it seem like this
is just the United States saying, Okay, if there's cables
that don't work for your internet, and you want to
reroute it to space, we'll just blow your birds out of the sky.
Just a thought like to hear you guys take on it. Once again. I
really enjoy the show. Thank you much. Bye bye now.
So you have a theory about the cables. I thought it was
interesting.
Market Watch you can anyone out there can read it ran a couple
of weeks ago, go to marketwatch.com. And look my
columns up and you'll find it. There's kind of a sketchy. I
mean, I was I mean, it wasn't a sketchy column. From my
perspective, it was kind of you know, I'm glad they ran it
because it was definitely coming from the perspective of a reader
of the Confessions of an economic hitman. Ah, you know,
kind of a wacky idea. And what it was, it was one of the
readers that sent us or one of my listeners or readers, I don't
know what he sent me this note, I credited him in the column,
which was that there was going to be the opening of an Iranian
bourse to buy and sell oil in euros.
Let me just explain. A bourse is basically an exchange like a
stock market. Commodities exchange. Yeah,
right. So commodities exchange, European style, and, and they
were putting it up on this really cool Island, which
they're turning into a free trade zone, the Iranians are
just underwater somewhere. And it looked like it only had
access to unlike all the rest of these, these guys that were cut
off from this cable, this mysterious cable cutting,
everybody else could reroute, at least they had some internet
access. But this island was cut off completely. And so I started
looking into it, I thought was a good theory. I liked it. I liked
the idea. And so then I started looking into it. And there's a
couple of really dynamite hotels are building there. And so I
call these places up. Or first I tried to email and I all the
email bounced. So I figured it out. I guess there is no
internet. Do you still have
a copy of those bounces? Could you forward it to me? Because
sometimes there's information in there that is pretty
interesting. Yeah, I
think so with the header. The headers I use? Yeah, I think I
just probably didn't erase them. Okay. But anyway, so then, but
then I tried calling them on the phone, and there was no
telecommunications at all. And IP phones were blanked out, too.
So I just gave up on it after I tried three different hotels.
And I figured, well, I guess,
by the way, can I just commend you for doing something actually
journalistic as opposed to every other fucking pundit out there
who was just like Boo, boo, you actually did like some work?
Most of the time? You When You're a pundit, like myself,
you don't really have to do that kind of thing. But I didn't like
I don't like following leads that don't that are just blue
sky. I mean, if there's something that's, you know, I
don't want to be embarrassed if so I do some occasionally do
some reporting. And so I'll you know, when I have to, to prove
something, most of the time, I'm just making, you know, I'm gonna
say, Well, I the way I see it, because there's some some, just
some thought, I don't need to report on that. Because there's
just no way I'm thinking but when it's something that
supposedly happened, I have to report on it. Which is meaning I
have to research it a little bit to make sure that don't get
somebody saying I was, why didn't you just call us we could
have told you anything you wanted to know. And so like did
call and that's what I got nothing. I couldn't get through
to anybody. So I figured, well, I guess this thing is cut. And
these guys are cut off. So the bores didn't get to open on
time. And everyone thinks it's just you know, the New York Jets
actually the New York oil, guys, and then there's a big exchange
and
so and so So the theory is that not only were they going to
trade was it a new place to trade oil, but the big news I
thought was that they were going to trade it in euros, which of
course is a big deal because oil has always been traded in
dollars or pretty much always been traded in dollars.
Right? Although I have this thought that maybe they should
start trading in euros and then bring the dollar back up. But I
think it's a dog's gonna sink more. They don't want to do that
yet.
Yeah. So do you think that there's something to the
satellite business that maybe that had to be shot as a
coincidence
Maybe there's something to it. But yeah, I thought that it
would do. I mean, everybody in the right wing community all
believes that the only reason for shooting that satellite out
of the air was I mean, look, there's there's, there's a
number of possibilities, one, the satellite needed to be shot
out of the air, because it was, you know, going to fall and land
somewhere and they needed to do this. Is it? Does anybody think
that's a possibility? It doesn't seem. So I think that may be the
real reason. But there is also the thought amongst the right
wingers that you know, that China blew up a satellite, so we
had to show them that we could do it, too.
I'm kind of there. I think that's not you
know, I'm not I'm into the cable thing, because it makes a lot of
sense. And it's a weird coincidence, and there's no good
reason for it. The satellite thing, there was good reasons
for it in the mix. You know, yeah, we blew it up. And maybe
we were testing some stuff, but I think the satellite probably
needed to be blown up. The thing was supposedly the size of a
school bus. And I guess it crapped out. Yeah, and you can't
just have this thing floating around up there.
And just to take it one step further. This happened on the
night of the full lunar eclipse. I don't know if it has anything
to do with it. But just another date,
that it was a day before.
Oh, I could be wrong.
I think you're wrong on that. But I don't I'm not absolutely
sure.
They did. They did send out no Tam's notice to Airmen. Because
I know because Captain Chris called into the daily source
code. Oh, unlimit. Daily source code.com. I'm learning John.
There was a notice to Airmen that you couldn't fly somewhere.
Somewhere in the Pacific near Hawaii. The FAA basically set up
a temporary danger zone, and you weren't allowed to fly there.
Interesting.
Well, my wife says that there was a there was a a at the time
that think thing was supposed to shut down up in Washington
State. There was a
media oral media or that impacted
or something? Yeah. Well, it was did you do is that what you
heard? A meteor?
Yeah, in fact, another pilot reported that he actually saw it
impact he saw it hit the hit the ground now. I presume it's
immediate, or and I'm actually I'm amazed that you were the
pictures are there no people out there looking for this stuff?
You know, these things? I mean, I've seen things flat. You can't
get the camera out fast enough. These things are going at like,
you know, 100,000 miles an hour guy or 50,000 at least are some
they just shoot by and blow up. I mean, you don't have time to
take a picture and
they can be pretty small. They can be like the size of a
baseball could still look pretty spectacular in the sky, I'm
told.
Right? And you know where the meteor hit. I mean, you know,
meteors are worth a lot of money if you can find one. Hey, now.
What are you doing this weekend? John? Aren't you up in the area?
I'm gonna go up there looking for that Meteor.
Cash, baby. Here's a follow up on the discussion we had about
cotton T shirts. Wolfie and wool wool. Yeah, listen to this,
you'll probably like this one. Hey, Adam,
Chris Cochran here from Seattle calling about your discussion on
no agenda about T shirts, and fabric and cotton and men
wearing out and I just wanted to let you know that, you know,
it's not seemingly different thing is cotton has changed in
the last 25 years, I actually work in the apparel industry.
And we create custom T shirts a company does. And we have a hard
time finding quality t shirt material that meets the same
standards that you could get like say 25 years ago. Not too
long ago, you could buy a nice soft cotton t shirt from all us,
you know, West Texas cotton. And it was just amazing. That same
quality today sucks. And it's the material itself. It's
actually the fibre in the crime itself. That has changed and
nobody can tell us why. You just have a hard time finding that
same quality these days. No agenda.
I thought that was pretty interesting. That's really
interesting. Can't find good quality cotton. I
mean, well, he says the UAE and now he's talking about Texas,
you know, American cotton. Yeah. Which is a little I think you
can still get good quality Egyptian cotton. And I still
have some I have some tekota t shirt in Hong Kong long years
and years and years ago. And I still every once awhile, it
comes up in the cycle of wearing a t shirt. And here it is, and
then you put it on. It's like ah, it's things like cashmere
sweater and just wears like forever as a beautiful piece of
cotton. That's a t shirt. And so I mean, I'm sure that there's
and some of the cotton that I've seen that has you know, it says
Egyptian you can still buy towels made from Egyptian
cotton. And it's like some of the best cotton. And he's
talking about Texas cotton, which never, I don't think has
ever been that good. But what I thought was interesting about
his comments was the fact that no one can explain why quality
has deteriorated. Monsanto can't explain it. Maybe it's just a
crappy. Sometimes. Genetically. They've changed the thing and
it's So, I don't know really what you think somebody should
look into this
change genetically changed the cotton I have
always screwing around with the seeds, you know, to make this
thing so does you know so boll weevils don't eat it so much, or
the poison, you know, some sort of, you know, something that
give it more production, more productivity. I mean, they're
always dicking around with these non food stuff, plants.
While we're on the topic of clothes, I was in an article in
the Financial Times week ago, I think, where retailers in the
United States and Europe are now putting together you know, like,
almost like open letters to to makers of apparel. Saying please
do not forget us here in the United States, do not forget
about our fashion trends and our needs, because apparently all
these apparel makers, certainly the higher mid to higher end,
are no longer making clothes for the Americans and Europeans for
their sizes and styles and tastes. They're all focusing on
China and other Eastern countries. Which, by the way, is
the reason why I can't get any clothes in my size anymore.
Yeah, you're tall, tall and skinny. And you just
you're not that tall or and not that skinny. I mean, it seems to
me that you're I mean, you're tall and skinny but you're not
you're not like six eight no but
the there aren't a lot of people like me are just not enough and
that just they've given up that just not make it any more I have
to I think I'm have to result you know, resort to to having
stuff tailored. Well, you can afford it. That's not the point.
That's discrimination. It has to
discrimination. Hey, that would you mind me? Suddenly, we're
such we're talking about this subject. So remember, last week
or the week before talking about gold toe and I had these
cashmere socks that were all that didn't work? Yeah.
I have a comment on that too. Yeah. Okay. North Carolina.
So you know, I said is like, you know, this is the best we can
do. The United States knows we just make socks. That's pretty
much our business. Somebody sends me a note from North
Carolina saying, Hey, you get a clue. John, the gold tow company
and all their manufacturing is moving to Mexico. Oh, no.
There you go. Now we make nothing. No agenda. We make bits
and bytes here. Check this out. Second.
Adam, John, you don't know about the infamous sock industry. Try
this. Take a metal detector and put it over your socks. If
you're real lucky. Every now and then you'll get a little blip.
Back The Transporter transponder inside the socks. Are he
activated put them in the dryer one of the socks teams out and
get sent back to the factory to be resold. So every time you
wash your socks one comes up missing that caused you to have
to buy more socks. You got to learn this stuff out.
Yeah, that's our that's our actually our normal listener.
Yeah, guy. Yeah,
that's that is the listener.
That's him. I was a little distressed by that she's Geez.
You know, I mean, they're already making money. They're in
Costco. They got all the distribution they need. What is
it about that? What is it happening that they have to move
to Mexico? And it can't be cheap to
to pick out any price? That's the only reason to do it. Yeah,
but
what does it cost to take in closed on a huge factory in
North Carolina and haul your butt down to Mexico and rebuild
down there? I mean, it just doesn't make a lot of economic
sense to me over the long haul.
I don't know Well, I don't know anything about manufacturing.
But it seems that
unless the factory is falling apart and you have to read tool
anyway.
There must be some there must be something good we make in
America what do we make here? What do you make this?
That's what we make? We make jets and bombs we're really good
at that. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. And we make a lot of we'd
like to blow stuff up and we make we make high end ships are
still mostly made in this country, the really pricey ones.
And
I don't know there's got to be some other stuff that's really
big and I think we make brooms some places we make
great flashlights we make mag light they're still made in
America.
Mag light. That's one thing Yeah.
You know, I guess entertainment.
We do a lot of entertainment law too much of it, man.
That's gotta be it. You know, and we and of course country in
Western and jazz are pretty much American he
makes cars too. We do make cars and vehicles I mean, even though
a lot of them are made by Honda and you know, like Toyota, but
they could have factories here. So I think that counts.
I think we're losing out. I think we're really losing out in
the car business.
Well, I don't think our cars are that I've never been really that
good. Although I have to say you know, even though I mean cars
and a car I really think is one of the I still think the
Japanese make the best cars and I have been driving a Lexus for
a couple of them. And I think is one of the best cars I've ever
owned, even though it's kind of falling apart after being as old
as it is, but it
is a trash pit on wheels.
isn't to get a detailed you know what's gonna happen next time
you see that car is gonna have been detailing and as you get a
new car
like I don't even believe you actually have a home I think you
live in that thing.
It looks actually but you haven't been in a race I
actually cleaned it out because I gotta take it to the detail.
What do
you mean? I wasn't just earlier this week we went to our place
to go
there's a couple of things in the show. I have a box of you
know, I go to Costco I don't take the stuff out of me. What's
that sign you keep showing me I forget what it says you have a
sign that you're parking sign I
was carrying the car. Anyway, let's get back to the NAB Show.
But we have a Dodge Caravan. We've had a couple of them,
which is a minivan which is you know, the car that men should
never be driving. But I have to say it's, you know, a very, you
know, it's an outstanding vehicle even though it had to go
into the shop a lot. But in terms of like being a good
functional car. They're they're actually not bad. I also like
Volvo's, I think it's you know, even though they used to be
stodgy, they're actually kind of sporting at the least minor
minor basis. But I was up at the factory in Gothenburg, Sweden
and went around the track and all the different cars, all the
different versions they made. And they have some diesels that
they don't bring over here that just go like a little rocket
ships. It's amazing. Well, you're
not you can't buy a new diesel in California. Right? Isn't that
some kind of law that they that they can't sell any new diesel
cars? Only old ones?
I don't know. Yeah.
I think there's a rule something you can't buy a new design.
There's some California regulation about it. I'm a big
fan of diesel. I love it. Because you know, those things
were intended to basically you can piss in it in the tank, and
it'll run you know, it's a whole
go 300,000 miles and again, but I have to say these new diesels,
which are in Europe and not in the United States, are
astonishing. You could put somebody in one of these things.
And if you didn't tell him it was a diesel wouldn't know. They
wouldn't know now have the same response as any gasoline engine
and they just go faster than crap.
And the balance of the engine is good. It doesn't ping around
like the you see the big thing in aviation. Now. Everyone's
switching to diesel engines in their aeroplanes. That's that's
a real big, real big trend I'm seeing happening. Yeah, that's
and of course, you Oh, no, man, all the new all the new
aeroplanes you can choose, you can choose most of them. You can
choose if you want a diesel engine or not. And it's mainly
done obviously, for cost.
I'm gonna have to look into the I used to work at Union oil and
we used to do, I was in the cabinet. I was a chemist, and we
used to do a lot of testing.
We are chemists in college as well. Chemists major, my
favourite I always hung out with those guys.
Yeah, well, that's yeah, you would, and well, you should. But
anyways, so we tested a lot of fuels and stuff. And there was
always one of the things that you when you have these octane
ratings is based on this thing called knock engine that you put
the fuel through, and it would start knocking at a certain
point, it would be rated at whatever and they used to be
actually the two ratings road and something else that used to
be on the pumps and they took took them off, or they make a
combination number. But anyway, the diesel stuff was always you
know, there's something changed with diesels to make these new
Hot Rod engines. And I'd like to know, because I've been out of
it for so long. I'd like somebody to explain to me or
send me an email explaining why these diesels are so they're so
different. I mean, they're amazing.
I don't think the principle is the same. I think they've just
gotten better balance. All the diesels that you're talking
about, I'm sure a turbocharged if they have that amazing
pickup, they've got to be turbocharged two there's a lot
of think there's been a lot of improvements in that.
I don't know it's just the whole thing seems peculiar to me that
that these engines are so nice. You should give me a diesel has
always been a piece of crap. You know, the things take forever to
warm up. They shake. Oh, you
don't have to do any of that anymore.
No pickup. You know, they make a bunch of noise and they belch
black smoke. That's to me is a diesel engine.
You must get out more things have changed. Danny Kaye things
have changed since you've been writing the history of music is
really quite quite different.
Well, that's for sure. And I have to say that was actually
more amazed by the little diesels that they had at Devolo
place than the Volvo's themselves.
My first my first three cars that I ever owned were all
Volvo's I I'm a big fan. I mean, you don't get laid when you're
driving a Volvo but well actually
the new ones are pretty cool. Since Ford took them over they
at least they have some lines there's some we're getting nicer
not so boxy as they used to be
ugly. They're all ugly.
Oh no. Oh, they're
not pretty at all. No way.
No defect that big SUV one I think is a nice car too.
And by the way, you know I don't give a crap about cars anymore.
That just went away all of a sudden I
just Yeah, apparently when your wife sold the collection. Yeah.
But it was kind of before that. I mean, I didn't mind that much
going and you're probably right who gives a shit about cars and
now I don't even want to drive. Let someone else drive me. I'm
so yeah, well as
you in the limo. Now I don't have a limo. I don't have which
route which reminds me of interesting observation. Okay,
so we did cranky geeks last Wednesday.
Yes. Which, by the way, thank you very much from a habit for
having me on. I thoroughly enjoyed myself and I was
Leo Laporte on at the same time, and everyone was jacked up about
thinking that was going to be good. And, and it was, it was a
good conversation, Leo was at one of his he was at his best
because Leo actually is very knowledgeable. And some times
it's fun to listen to him, you know, he's looking at stuff all
the time. Sometimes it's fun to hear what he actually thinks.
So, but but there was a there's a moment there at that. And I've
done this a million times, because if you work in radio or
broadcasting ever, this this kind of thing comes up, where
Leo had gone into a little commentary about how your limo
and entourage was blocking the street, out in front of the
place and it was a pain in the butt for him to find a place to
park and he was moaning about it and I of course shows I
you threw some some gas on the fire there. I immediately
without missing a beat added to the to the malarkey by going on
about the fact that you're there was a stretch Hummer or
something. I don't know what it was just a bunch of icing, you
know, I can't believe you know, I know, as long as I've known
this guy, Adam, I can't believe the crap that he's always
driving around with a bunch of girls on my wish list. I was. So
anyway, so I could go on and on like this. And I really I was
thinking about that. Only in radio or even TV where you're
actually doing a show about facts. Can you go off with a
bunch of bull? That's got nothing to do with anything.
It's just clowning around. And you know, playing you know, Stan
Freeburg kind of ad libbing because you can do anything you
want to Yeah, we've done this on radio before. Like, you'll sit
on a radio show with somebody and say, so do you always sit in
the studio like this naked? Right? And if the guy picks up
on what you're where you're headed with this humour? He
goes, Yeah, I usually do. I sometimes I wear a jock strap.
And most of the time I just kind of nice to be here. And you know
what? The studio is so warm in here that I had really this more
comfortable with the naked because I when I was wearing
clothes, I'd always be sweating a lot.
It's Theatre of the mind, John, that's what it is. Right?
Exactly. And so but
you do this and then you do like, you can't do this with
writing. There's this kind of thing and what is the public
think? You know, I'm always it's like, this isn't this is not
none of this is factual. It's all just bull. And is it I'm
always wondering how
I think they're I think they're immune to it. I think it's just
there.
Does anybody believe it? I mean, how many people were listening
to that thought that you did have a limo parked out there
blocking traffic? I wonder?
I think there's certainly a fair amount of people who would buy
it? I think so.
I think so too. And it's disturbing
Well, guess what, folks? It's not true.
Now you walk or actually you came over in the car with the
wrong Yeah,
no, but I walk everywhere now. I don't own a car in San Francisco
anymore. They compact a trinity. I think my my, my diesel. My bio
diesel stationwagon.
Bio Diesel is the way to go in California. Yeah, it smells like
a french fry machine was on the street
was lovely. I loved her so much. But it's just a hassle. It was
it was just an old car. That's the problem. Old cars, you know,
big hassle. No good. And now my daughter, of course. You know,
she's about to take her test for her licence if she wants a car.
And this is a huge I think conundrum is the is the right
word. I said, Well, look, I don't drive at all. I'll give
you the Jag. You know, you can I'll put it in your name. You
can have it. And she's like, No, I don't want the Jag. I want a
nice little cute, girly car. And that's what every parent doesn't
want. I don't want my kid driving around some fucking Tin
Can you know, I wanted to have some, you know? In fact, I'd
like you to drive a tank honestly. Yeah.
Here's a Sherman tank. Pull this way you do it as you pull this
way to go right and you pull on this other track. It goes left
here have
a Hummer baby, please drive oh, by the way in the UK, you know
they had that congestion charge. You know about this, where you
have to pay money to drive into the city if you come within a
certain zone. So now they want to change that to the co2
emissions charge. And depending on the type of automobile you
have, the daily rate will be 25 pounds $50 to drive into the
city $50 and Porsche is now going to sue the city if they
actually make this happen. but they don't want all their
clientele to be screwed. But it's just interesting to see
that, you know, the co2 emissions and I put lots of
question marks, you know about the measurement of this stuff
and, and what it really means and you know, what does it
really mean to global warming? And of course, I have my own
questions about global warming in general. It's just, yeah,
it's, it's messed up.
Yeah, well, a lot of people think it's just a scam. I mean,
there's like, I think there is a climate change happening, you
can tell it. I mean, you've talked to winemakers anywhere in
the world, I'll tell you this, those things have changed. But
as improved things for the most part of wine, that's the goal.
Yeah. Especially the German wines, man. These things have
come on really is not all German wines, which is always like, you
know, they've always made good, sweet, white wines that Reds
have never been any good. But now, but and even this weak
whites are always kind of, you know, hit and miss. But in the
last, nonetheless, almost up to the last 10 years. They're
making tremendous red wines, which is really weird. Nobody
even believes it until it's proven to them. And they're
making this just one great vintage after another of some of
these term, just terrific, white wines that are just and they're
well priced and descent. vend is kind of an overlooked area,
because if people don't understand them, they keep
changing their labelling laws. And just stunned stunned and I
think this the same thing is going to happen in Oregon,
Washington, especially Oregon pinos and maybe burgundy it
looks like burgundy is having a string of really great ended,
which is an area that make Pinot Noir. And it's always under ripe
and crappy for the most part if they're really good ones. And
are
these are these young vintages that you're talking about that
are really good are the older vintages?
No, no, that starting around in Burgundy, it started around I'm
at about 99 You know, something like that maybe nice 95. And I
think it's somewhere somewhere around the mid 90s. Or but but
by the beginning of the turn of the century, it was almost like
they're hitting every year as a great year. 2005 being the most
recent Super year in Burgundy, Bordeaux and everyplace else.
It's just you know, you just drink these wines. When you get
a hold of one even though they're not ready to drink yet.
And you go holy crap. I haven't tasted anything like this
forever.
Well, next time. Next time I'm in town. We'll have to have one
on you. You have not introduced me to a good German wine.
Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, no, I did promise finding a good
German wine in our restaurant in San Francisco is probably a
little difficult. Although I think there's probably a few
places that know what they're doing.
So are we gonna we're gonna have time to have dinner next week
before I head back. Yeah, Wednesday would be Wednesday.
Okay, we should try one shoot for Wednesday. You know what's
around it, like around the area and see if there's any place
that would have a German wine because I mean, you don't knock
your socks off. Right? Good. German wine is astonishing.
Okay, we have to you know what, John, what's amazing. We have
done 73 minutes of show and we have once again succeeded in not
talking about one single thing we said we're going to talk
about,
yeah, well, maybe next week. Well, because I lost my notes
from it doesn't help.
I do remember we're going to talk about CDI. Remember that?
All CDI right? You see what I mean? And let me write a note
down and put it someplace
where you'll we'll lose it. Because our music is coming out
John. That means it's time to end the show. Unfortunately.
Yeah, the CD ROM is full.
I actually what I have to do now is I'm going to take out some
frozen frozen pizza. I'm going to heat that up. I'm going to
watch these two movies you gave me on the on CD CD ROM. I'm
going to watch those tonight. DVD I'm sorry. And the
conspiracy shit right
now just actually documentaries. You're a big fan of the of the
document. I
love the documentary. No,
I should I will have that frozen pizza. I gotta go do tech five.
I'm behind again.
Oh, my Holy moly. All right, John. Thank you very much. Thank
you, everybody who's been listening. We'll do again next
week coming.
Before you sign off, which you're gonna do in a second. I
want to remind everyone I've actually we've got a tech five
report.com website is Te ch FIV report.com Which we're
experimenting with. You should check it out. Okay.
And also, you should look at divorce act.org/cage match where
you can get the full show notes for each individual. No agenda
since of course I'm too lazy to
do it. But it loves doing it and he's our he's our hero,
Bubba the love sponge.
That Baba told us never heard that. No.
Oh man in every day of course. Remember we were talking about
morning zoos.
The right one Have those morning zoo cat characters?
There's always a guy out there on sticker patrol. We got Bubba
the love sponge Baba, come on in.
Cool. Yeah, sure bubble love this attention. Sure
he will. Alright everybody. That's it for for another week.
And thank you very much for listening from the curry condo
overlooking the bay. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern California. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk
to
you again next week on no agenda.