What the heck is a life threatening skin rash? Adam
curry,
John C. Dvorak is January 14 2010. Time for your Gitmo
nation media assassination episode 165. This is no agenda,
practising crippled epistemology am coming to you live from the
minimum security containment, settled tripod command centre
and get my nation West San Francisco, California. In the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where the sun is in my eyes. I'm
John C. Dvorak. Hill.
In the morning to your jaw in the morning to you. Now you're
doing my friend. Not bad. Except for your Windows machine is not
cooperating.
Yeah, it's going okay, now I fixed it. So there's lots of
news this weekend.
Yeah, no kidding. Shall we start right off with this week's
executive producer?
Yeah. And then I can also bring up the fact that this was
probably the worst week for donations we've had since the
show started.
Oh, excellent. That's that's real. Happy news. John in the
morning to you. Yeah, basta. I
think I know the reason why, but we'll discuss it later. So our
executive producer is Joshua Judd in Tempe, Arizona. $165.
He's the executive producer and I want to read his note. Okay,
I'm doing a $165 $1. For every episode. So far. I'm a college
student in Arizona, and I have a message for the ungrateful
listeners. You guys get a hard time for it when you ask for
donations. Shut up. I wouldn't care if you guys were
billionaires, you do a quality show twice a week for free and
the least the listeners can do is quit complaining if they're
not going to donate. Joshua Judd, Tempe, Arizona and though
kicker, you can add me to the to your count of vegan producers.
Nice. Wow. An unexpected twist. Yeah,
you know, I don't get it personally. Why any vegan we
listen to us at all, but
it is interesting. We have we have multiple vegan listeners.
And I think somehow they appreciate his John, I'm not
quite sure what it is, by the way for the vegans out there who
are typically our animal lovers, Hank and gagne the two pigeons
This is now third generation. crackpot command centre, pitch
and family are ready to fly. And they are all I've already got
them on solid food. As you know, I feed them granola every
morning. And they're ready to go. They're ready to fly. They
are flapping their wings.
Pigeons would just as soon peck your eyes out as look at you.
Oh, that's
not true. I have Gretchen and I've still got what do I have?
Like there's like three of them and now they just you know when
I come out in the morning they literally they hop up and they
they're on the balcony in the chattering with
me and so when I hand out all pigeons, do you but but it's
only them they don't allow any other pigeons to come over.
You know, crows are more interesting than pigeons. Yes,
they
are. But
you know the crows besides the fact they can recognise human
faces. They not only hold a grudge if you're gonna kill a
CRO you better kill it. Yeah. Because he not only hold a
grudge, but apparently they pass the information around to other
crows in the murder.
Oh, wouldn't surprise me. But I think the pigeons have similar
communication skills. I really do. Anyway, so a big thanks to
Joshua Judd breaks my heart well doesn't break my heart. It
actually makes my heart glow that we've got a college kid
here donating 165 bucks. And, and, and recognising value for
value. I love that. Really appreciate it. You know that you
can put this on your resume. I think you might actually be able
to get extra credit for it at school. You should give it a
shot. Talk to the
dean in Arizona. He's going to ASU, that's for sure. Yeah.
So we have no Associate Executive producers that was it.
Yeah, well, you don't get him to give me a visual 165 minutes
executive producer. He gave me the most money. There's no $200
One otherwise they'd be the executive producer. I can't have
any associates.
We do have a whatever we say we would call this title John PR
executive which doesn't sound
now PR associate Oh PR associate
Is that something that shows up on all on all regular credit
roles? Yes,
it's usually one of the if you have a public relations company,
you have some newbies or interns or people that just worked there
for part time. That's what their title would be for then they
just do spot work.
Well, but But I mean, I want something that that is a real
title, that title. Okay, this is a good it's a good credit,
right, because we haven't we have our very first official. Of
course we previously had It our producer call up that Boston
WTI. No, Hartford WTI see radio station and slipped in a no
agenda show.com. That was before we actually started with the
official credit. So PR associate for this programme is Maynard,
who I believe actually works for the Australian Broadcasting
Corporation. And
he didn't want us using his last name then.
No, no, no, he even sent to the web page where this interview
appears with Lord. Lord, Lord Mayor Tate, who I think is
affiliated with New South Wales. It is an excellent exercise in
in how you got to do this stuff if you want to. Just like mind
control is exercised upon us all the time. And how? I can't
believe that Mickey is Skyping me from Los Angeles when she
knows we're doing the show. She says she hates me. No, she
doesn't care about the show.
Oh, well, that's probably true on all your women who then that
way.
Hold on a second. Let me just oh, man, Skype gonna crash on
me. Please tell me now.
seems to be fine. No, no, I've
got a spinning wheel of death right now. Are you still there?
Yeah, yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah, hold on a second. I am
live on the show.
She should be listening to the show and that Skyping
Yes, she said she was going to listen to the show while she was
in the gym. Ah, hold on a second. John has pissed me off.
Hey, baby, I'm live on the show. Hello. Ah This sucks. Now of
course Skype crashed. What do you expect? You can't do that.
You can't you can't get just can't do you just can't do
anything cool anymore. Now if I can jack good old Johnny Boy
back. I'm back in. There we go. By either? Yeah. Can you hear
me? Yeah, I hear you perfect. Oh, man. It's like it's like I
specifically said,
yeah, yeah, yeah. griping
pisses me off and then when and then
the thing even works at all what I share the thing is, is jerry
rigged?
No, it's not jerry rigged, Skype is shit. Skype is a piece of
crap.
It's deteriorating, I think.
What is Skype, just the quality of the of the programme itself.
Your Skype programme now? Yeah. All right. Okay, so go back to
your tome I'm sorry.
Well, I don't know where I would ended up because I got cut off
somewhere long though. I believe got cut off
or I said hold on. I'll be right back. So May a Maynard works for
the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. And he was
interviewing Lord, Lord Tate of New South Wales. And listen to
how he slips in not one but two massive pieces of mind control
and programming that will get more Australians to listen to
this programme. Are you ready John? You got you gotta listen
closely because he slips it in is beautiful. Go
with parks around Newcastle and by the way, I'm just talking to
meditate for really no apparent reason I've just met you many
times through my work at the ABC and I just wanted to have a chat
to you about being Lord Mayor with no real agenda actually, I
would have no agenda show person or not. I now look I certainly
have an agenda. But I keep it
Did you hear it? That was fantastic.
I love it because you know he's this guy this obvious you know
this obvious egomaniac because they all are is like he's always
going to talk about my agenda. I've got to get good prepare my
answer for above my agenda, you know, this is a horror and he
just he launches right into a boat. I'm gonna play that again.
Now listen for the second piece which is even funnier than no
agenda show person or not.
I now look I certainly have an agenda. But I keep it general
times because so my agenda is to fit in all of the competing
needs and opinions. But occasionally there comes a time
wait for it. Take a stand or express an opinion which may not
be popular or be seen to be popular at the time. But you
know it's the right decision and that's part of the job is
when you meet people out and about do you find that most
people have an agenda at night or most people have an agenda in
the morning. Now look, people will
good is that is he that guy he needs a special day special?
I just that's why I'm asking you, you know, we
make it public? Because you suspect me was that no in the
morning? Make it? Let's see if you see public relations
associate with commendation.
Let me just write that down.
So inside the so inside baseball, it's hilarious.
Yeah, but but this isn't one of our biggest memes and someone,
you know, this works this, this is a subliminal, and I really
believe it worked till we were Hey, I've heard that in the
morning thing somewhere. Listen to that the setup is beautiful.
And it's like, it could not be taking the more piss out of this
guy by doing this, which I just love when we hear that last bit
again. And that's part of
the job is when you meet people out and about, do you find that
most people have an agenda at night? Or most people have an
agenda in the morning? Now
look, people will often tell you that specific
question is so stupid. People have an agenda in the morning.
The guy's like, well, let me tell you. Well, look,
I think it should like you just take that as a as a as a normal
question. It's funny. I think one of the things that we're
doing which is greeting each other within the morning, as
opposed to Good morning, I think could be a meme that people
getting identify fellow
travellers. So yes, as you just
passed by in the morning, in the morning in the morning, and
yeah, it's kind of like our Who is John Galt. You're not gonna
You're not buying that? No. Okay. All right. Did you
know that and Rand was given the orders to write that book as
part of a scheme to as code by Philippe Rothschild when she was
his mistress.
Oh, really? Are you talking about the book? By iron Rand.
Yeah, in fact, I think the Rothschilds also ordered john
stossel to do a whole hour on the book. Oh, he complied with
their order. Let me just say one thing about this, because you're
always scoffing me about Atlas Shrugged. It's a fantastic book
to read. I was talking about this book on this very show,
months, months before anyone else was bringing it up in
mainstream television. And this whole objectivism thing, I don't
give a crap about that. It's a great story. It's very relatable
to today, the world we live in. And there's lots of hot sex
scenes in it. It's a good book. It's very, it's great. It's a
great it's a long as read. But it's a it's a fantastic book and
you just sit there you go, huh? Wow, this is this is like now
this is this is the Obama administration
exactly like that. Yeah. Everybody's burning up their
coal mines and region heading up to the hills and burn. No, just
like now it's exactly.
It's not we're not quite at that part in the book yet. But that
is next. That was
that's that's that's fine. That fits in with a clip I have, by
the way. Okay. Let's go. I did the one of the big things. And
you know, the big news item and it's it borders on both real
news. And then in the morning news is the announcement and
then immediate appeal appearance of Sarah Palin as the fox news
outlets.
She even said she's but what was interesting about her
announcement is she says he's happy to join the talent and
management of Fox News.
Oh, I didn't hear that.
Yeah. Whoa, interesting. And the management,
maybe she's got something to do the management. Now. Now
everybody knows I'm generally tend toward conservative
politics. And I do not think much of this woman even though I
really predicted that she would be picked before anybody else
even knew she wasn't before they picked her because I had seen
some bio of her at some point, like early in the last year. And
and I said, Wow, this woman's got the kind of credentials that
could could be a great for a national, political. I never
heard her speak. If I had actually used actually,
I recall that you mentioned her. I was still in get my nation
east. You actually mentioned her as a possible something or
other. Yeah, as a vice president. Yeah. But way
before anyone had ever mentioned her
January, March 2009, is because I ran it, but it was a fluke.
But as soon as I saw it on paper, and I think is what
happened the McCain campaign when you see her on paper, it's
like holy crap. You know, Jim, and she just said everything was
just a checkbox is one after the other and I Think that still she
still does look good on paper so for now the fact that she
couldn't even finish her governorship you know she's a
quitter and yes when we went for President
it's Ayn Rand she's she's she's it's Atlas Shrugged she quit her
job.
So yeah, but she didn't move to Denver she went to Fox kind of a
switch so so I you know, I saw there was a big special on 60
minutes about her maybe we should play that clip first. And
it's a big special on 60 minutes about her and because there's
this new book that came out that talks about all the campaign
crap that went on including the fact that Hillary's you pretty
much thought she had it in the bag and essentially coasted you
know she was like the the tortoise and the hare kind of
thing which which book is this job? I said no. And I had to
title it just eludes me for surveys she
was gonna who wrote it who's the those a
couple of journalists Ohio Brian and some other guy let me look
it up because I saw a big bed this big high book this week.
Oh, so Dude,
we got to go read that book. If it's if it's a big if it's a big
hot book, then we've got to read it.
Okay, go read it.
You know our monitor. Read a brand new load for you do Yeah,
that's part of the service we provide to our listeners. So
they don't have to read. I did see one of the campaign managers
for the McCain Palin ticket. I think it was on CBS real creepy
looking dude, and he was just lambasting her. Like, oh yeah,
she really ruined it. Because of her it was really kind of weird.
Did you Twitter by the way that we're live I
guess I did. Okay, thank you. Just somebody that's sharing
should know the name of this book right off the top of the
top of the top the top of their head. The united in the chat
room. Yeah, I
am the ottoman. Game Change. Yeah, game change the game
changed by John Heilemann and Mark Halperin Yes. Okay. So I
mean, is this the one that has Harry Reid calling her Obama of
light skinned African American without a negro access
to everything that we had over the last week or so coming from
this book?
Okay, gotcha. All the all the media distraction, you mean?
It's a great, it is the media distraction. And everybody who's
you know, read it, you know, there. There was mentioned in
the book that Sarah Palin didn't know the difference between
North and South Korea, or I get it it's
hard to see do you may know that there wasn't north or south is
what I heard. I couldn't
figure out that, you know, what, why there was one of them. I
gotta go read this book now. So all the right wingers on Fox,
oh, that's not even possible. She's a genius. She's a genius
when she beat that way. Anyway, so. So they had this they did.
The Anderson Cooper, who's gay, and I don't like gay reporter
reporting on a woman who was anti gay because there's an
agenda on his part immediately, because he's not gonna like her.
And so I figured this story be slanted, but he kind of went out
of his way not to adult oh, by the way, is not officially gay.
But if you watch, you know, if you read, you know, some of the
gay stuff, you'll find out who he is. And who cares. I'm just
saying I care when a guy is reporting on someone who is
openly anti gay. Okay. That's why I care. I don't care.
Otherwise, I think you did a good job of being neutral, which
I admired him for. Now. This part of the story, though,
anyway, so they brought up the fact that she was a dummy. But
this part of the story is the funny little segment here, which
I have, which is the one Schmidt whatever is the guy's name is
this campaign director on Sarah. Yeah, I
think this is that scary, dude.
Yeah, he was the guy the bald guy. Yeah, he's
with a with a really. He has like a plasticine face.
What's funny is this just this story is hilarious. Okay,
you're ready. Yet? The prep.
So shman. And campaign manager Rick Davis sat in on the debate
prep. And Schmidt says Palin seemed overwhelmed. Rick Davis
and I sat in the back of the room for a few minutes suggested
everybody take a break. I asked everybody to leave the room and
we had a conversation with her. Would you say to her, I said to
her, I said, Governor, this doesn't seem to be going very
well to me. And she assented. She agreed. She said, You know,
I think that's right.
They flew her to John McCain's ranch in Arizona, Schmidt said
he took over the debate prep and simplified it and Palin began
doing well. except for one persistent problem, she kept
confusing Joe Biden's name with Obama's calling him Oh Biden.
She did it over and over again. It was
a verbal tech and it was subconscious. When you had gone
through the Tina Fey parities, you certainly cannot be in a
position where you walk out onto the stage and you know, refer to
him repeatedly on national television as senator or Biden,
it would have just been devastating beyond words.
How'd you get around that?
It was really it was multiple people. And I wasn't one of them
who all said at the same time, just say, Can I call you Jeff?
Which he which he did?
That is so interesting, because she corroborates that in her
book.
Yeah, well, here's the here's the thing. You play the rest of
this clip, you have that caller, Joe thing and then they
apparently caught her saying, well, Biden anyway, but only
once. But play the rest of it because I have a thought on
this. Okay.
You, Joe, which people in time fought with some sort of
strategy was really just a way for her to be able to say his
name without messing it up,
correct? Absolutely.
But one Oh, Biden did slip out.
Barack Obama and Senator Joe Biden, you've said no to
everything, and
staffers were delighted.
So anyway, yeah. Well,
first, she, she does corroborate that in in her. In her book, she
says that that is the sole reason why she said Joe, and it
but she says it wasn't her own idea. So that's a little
different.
That's funny. Well, there's apparently a lot of evidence in
this book that she's that way. It's my idea, which is another
bad sign about her. And I believe that probably wasn't her
idea. But anyway, if I was going to take sides, because I don't
think these guys are really the guys who wrote the book are
biassed in that regard. But the table slamming everybody.
Anyway. Here's the thing that that was kind of interesting to
me is I remember that debate when she said Can I call you
Joe? The question I have is why did they have a mic up? In the
first place? She was miked up when they were bringing them out
and they were doing a audience normally you make up the
audience you have the applause of the two people usually
exchange some you know pleasantry. I mean, like even
when Letterman has a guest on he whispers to him, they don't have
the mic up. They had her mic up to make it. Make it apparent. I
think somebody's trying to embarrass her, then that seemed
like a strategy rather than just to kind of a dumb trick. And so
then nothing ever came of it. But I thought it was suspicious
that the network's had are miked during when she asked about.
I do recall thinking the exact same thing. So I'm not sure
because I obviously, I don't recall if the mic was up on
other debate debates, and if there was any pre chatter, but
it does, of course, fit in line with the whole charade that that
are the debates. I mean, let's be honest. This is, you know, is
it not painfully obvious that this is theatre?
Oh, yeah, no, it's totally theatre. Now. Anyway, Joe Biden
thing crack me up now. Now, the more interesting or if it's even
interesting, but we got to see Palin on the O'Reilly show where
he claimed I didn't I missed it. I only saw clips of it. But he
claims to have been giving her the hard questions. But
meanwhile she did then she did Glenn Beck show I think was
either last night or the night before and and they're in some
house someplace. With with a view I have no idea where this
place is. It's got to either I don't know where this would be.
It's it's a it's like some sort of a set or a house or something
in the view out the window. Right. You have back in a gym, a
big comfy chair and Palin in a comfy chair sitting across from
each other in some sort of a hot home and through the window.
Just next to back is the Statue of Liberty at the in the
distance.
Yeah. Because they're actually on Ellis Island.
So I'm looking at this going What is this?
Of course, it's a set that's always a set. And
Beck is just she's getting so pompous. It's getting
ridiculous, but but he takes her kind of seriously, but he's,
he's interviewing her or bringing her in as her for her
consulting prowess. And then kind of agreeing where he agrees
and you know, and quite grilling her wares and leading her he's
like leading her the whole thing. It was the worst
interview I've ever seen. Beck is
of course he can't interview. He's a he's a top 40 disc
jockey. And I quit watching him a couple of weeks ago, and I
would tune in from time to time it was 11 o'clock at night. We
just kind of late when he had what's the was he had Michael
boob lay on and the whole for a whole hour? And it was just
like,
oh, yeah, you were really irked about Yeah,
it would have been more exciting to just blew him. You know, if I
just watched gay porn between Beck and boob lay that would
have been more exciting than this interview because he it can
interview he can't
Yeah, And what's the point? What was it what it seems like a jock
sniffer from, you know, the celebrity jocks and different
type with the having this character on in the first place
and having him on for an hour is ridiculous. Okay, so let's play
the back. There's there's about three moments in here that you
just total I rollers,
singer to go that route with the Fed. And it's a scary thing.
It's one of those things that we're thankful for Glenn, that
you're bringing this to light and anybody else
she's crediting back with with starting the movement to audit
the Fed.
Right? Natural credit, of course, is Ron Paul Ryan, we
all we all know, never gets mentioned on any of these shows.
So she credits him and I did to her credit, I think she realised
it was bull crap. And so she backs off just a notch and she
kind of she watched the way she gets out of painting yourself.
You can see the thought balloon above her head go, Oh, crap,
what did I just say this is backing up
and let her say that again,
to go that route with the Fed. And it's a scary thing. It's one
of those things that we're thankful for Glenn, that you're
bringing this to light? And I don't know anybody else who is
certainly nobody else who has a platform or the megaphone that
like you do that we have no, right.
No one has a platform like the congressman from Texas, you can
break
here. I just want to answer this question. Is universal health
care? Constitutional?
I don't believe that it is constitutional constitutional
lawyer.
Well, you know, this is a big harping point, of course, can
the government actually force you to buy any product or
service? And the answer should be no, I mean, anyone who's read
the Constitution, but
that's what the question was. That's not the question. He says
universal health care, whatever. It was, like, you know, they
were giving you money. I mean, he said, the question is, is
universal health care constitutional? The Constitution
doesn't cover one way or the other. He doesn't say, Can the
government force you to buy stuff? He asked. It's just a
generalised question. It's out of the blue and she as a Guinea
jaskin, our constitutional questions, she starts mouthing
off about the Fifth Amendment? Well, you know,
this is how it goes with with television personalities who
actually don't know what they're doing. I just fed questions. You
know, I can just hear the producer saying, All right, so
you got it. You got to get into the whole constitutional issue
about about this health care bill. And of course, the
producer fully well knows that this is, you know, there's
there's something else behind it, but instead of instead of
really grokking to what the point is, he just blurts it out
like that. I mean, it's a question on his paper.
I don't believe that it is constitutional. I believe that
it violates the 10th amendment. I believe that it usurps states
rights, I believe that. It is. Aside from the unconstitutional
aspect of this. I think it is the most wrongheaded thing that
Obama is trying to cram down our throat and I cannot believe I
know that people are outraged about it. But I cannot believe
that those on Capitol Hill are still not listening to the
outrage of the people and still want to see this thing. So
what you have to ask yourself, why they're all throwing
themselves on the altar of this. The bribes, the corruption, the
coercion, the
the bribes, the corruption, the coercion, nerves. You've really
got to ask yourself what is going on?
Tru you break your kneecaps kind of stuff. Even I said a year
ago, a year ago Christmas, the year from now, he will not
recognise your country put yourself back a year ago last
Christmas. What does
he think he is Barbara Walters
guess it was better what recognise you ago that you're in
a coma for when you wouldn't recognise your country? What the
hell they changed the name of my streets and painted the
pavements red, and there's blood everywhere.
Go into a coma. Wake up. Do you recognise your country
already this change is creating this unrecognisable system that
were a part of it. But yeah with the especially with the health
care when when incumbents are even willing to give up their
their power their seat when they're saying hey, if it costs
me my seat in Congress, it cost me my seat in Congress. I'm
going to cram this thing through anyway. That's a scary scary
thing to consider not
if they're doing it on principles. It is if they're
doing it on for bribes, money, power position.
I want to know what their principles are. Then I want to
know why they think that this is principle that all
exactly right. Okay, back in just a second.
Jackie right. You're right. You're Exactly right. So did she
know she uses the word cram or cram down your throat? About
three, four or five times? Yeah. What is that all about? I think,
suggestive there, there is some some side tracks that we could
take from here that is quite interesting. Regarding the
health bill itself. As you know, the Ted Kennedy's seat is open.
And I guess there's a there's a real fight going on now, because
and you'll have to jump in here and help John, the Democrats
need 60 votes, and they have exactly 60 If they keep all all
current seats, in order to have a filibuster blocking vote in
the Senate. And perhaps for the benefit of people who are not
familiar with our our governmental system such as
Americans. Maybe you could explain exactly what a
filibuster is and how that works.
Well filibuster, if I'm not mistaken, was invented by
Southern senators some years ago, like maybe in the 30s or
being maybe been before then the idea was that you get full, you
get a you get a hold of the floor. If you're like you say
you got a bill, you want to pass and somebody the Democrats want
to pass in the Republicans don't. And but then they're not
going to get the votes, the Republicans are not going to
win. So they and this by the way, I think I think I never
looked into it. But I think it was an invention of the
Democrats to begin with. But so you get the whole of the floor,
and not for just a minute or two, you get you get, you get
the whole that you get to speak for as long as you want. And so
you just start speaking forever. And you just never stop. And
when you get tired, you pass it on to somebody. So I like to
have someone so from South Dakota to finish a thought. And
he goes to four seven, just keep talking to talking to you, you
never stop. Well, there's a cloture law that came into play,
which is, which is stopped the filibuster, you can actually
stop it and make everybody only speak for a limited amount of
time. And but you pass that by rule, you need 60 votes. Now,
the curious thing about this, according to the people I've
been reading, is that that 60 votes is arbitrary. They could
change the rules to make it you know, simple majority, but they
won't do it. They went they went to 60 Road thing. I think the
whole thing is something of a scam. Well, now that they need
to keep the one extra guy obviously, to keep 62. Because
essentially what happened, you have 60 instance, and you can
pass anything you wanted to get all 60 people. That easy.
Well, the thing that I found interesting is it's actually not
an extra guy. It's an extra extra gal, Martha Coakley, who,
who was intended to fill this, this seat in for the great state
of Massachusetts. And so you know, they're kind of like
running around saying, Oh, crap, you know, we got to move we've
got to secure this seat. So there's a fundraiser. That is
that has been put together by the following host committee
members of Pfizer, Merck, Amgen, Sanofi Ventus, Eli, Lilly,
Novartis, AstraZeneca, et cetera. The entire healthcare
industry is coming to her aid. What does that tell you about
who actually is writing this law?
Yeah, no, I think that I think that's what's giving the
Republicans a shot at this. And also the fact that I guess a
reporter was not quite beat up but intimidated and thrown to
the ground by trying to ask, hopefully, some questions. She
apparently had some good as her bodyguard, and it's become kind
of an issue, although it hasn't been getting as much traction. I
haven't seen that at all. Yeah, they get to me, it's on the
YouTube is all over the place. And that's kind of weird. But
mainly because it didn't get any traction. The media is obviously
on this woman centre. Gonna try to remember through
right. I will say, though, that I was doing some investigation
last night. And I came across a documentary that I've put in the
show notes along with all of the stories we talked about no
agenda, no agenda show.com. And I was blown away because this,
you know, I love to read stories about Tesla. I love to read, you
know, we've talked about orgone energy, you know, it's some of
the scientific shit and I kind of get excited about it. And I'm
just see where are you looking at that I want to mention that
the first filibuster in US Senate history began in March
5 1841 over the issue of the firing of Senate printers, and
lasted six days.
That's gonna be hard for some of these guys. Okay, the
documentary is called Odd. The documentary is called The Rise
and Fall of a scientific genius. It is about royal Raymond rife.
Have you ever heard of this gentleman? No. So Raymond rife
in the 20s developed microscopes, and there are still
some around today. He initially developed microscopes with which
he could zoom in to such an incredible magnification level
with live images, not just like, so an electron microscope
basically takes a snapshot, I think they may be a little bit
more advanced than that today. But he was doing stuff in the
20s and 30s. That basically blows away today's technology.
This documentary, I think, is good, John, I want
Oh, brother, this already sounds bogus. It should be for the
second half of the show. No, I've
got something else for that.
1920s blows away today's technology, that's not even when
you
well, it gets even better, he developed a very simple concept.
First of all, he was able to isolate cancer virus. Which is,
which of course,
kind of no one else has done since correct.
And there's a reason for and that's really what the
documentary is about, which is why I liked it so much. So just
briefly about his technology, he discovered that a certain
frequency, just like shattering a glass at a certain frequency,
which was in the kind of the 11 to 12 megahertz range, if you
beam that into the cell structure, then these cancer
cells would essentially shatter like glass and and he made these
machines and you know, there's there is documented. And this is
this, you can actually look at John, you'll love the
documentation of this because it kind of went away around
1938 1939,
when anti quack quack laws were instituted Exactly.
And this was an the anti quack law was really focused on his
invention. Because he was he was curing cancer. But then they go
on in this documentary to show how the AMA got involved. And
there was this, they had a health Tsar, his name eludes me
for a moment, who later was convicted of being corrupt. And
of course, it was the Rockefeller Institute that
discredited all of this. But when you see this documentary,
you will get so angry, particularly, you know, just for
the concept that it might work. If you have anyone, you know,
you know, a family or friends who have had cancer or died of
cancer. So I'm, I'm particularly emotionally involved in in the
topic. You just got really angry that this base, very simple
technology,
I have to see that. Yeah, it's in the show notes. Next, I guess
in next week's documentary about that pill that you drop into a
barrel of water turns into gasoline, right.
Well, John, you can be as as negative as you want. But I I
liked the documentary video, they had tapes, they have audio
tapes, that he that were recorded, a rife that resurfaced
in 1999. And so there's a lot of interviews with him, him
speaking. A lot of talk about the at the time, of course, the
the National Cancer Research Institute was started and you
know, they were taking in $127 million. And they had spent
about 50,000. I have always suspected those guys of being
phoney baloney. Anyway,
so what's the guy's name again, rife ri F II, and which is first
name, Royal
Roy A L is three R's royal, Raymond rife. And the
documentary is the rise and fall of a scientific genius. And
there's a link in the show notes at no agenda. show.com
Fantastic. I was I was just I was riveted. Not so not so much
about the technology, which just sounds so completely logical,
but about the depth, the documentation, all the
historical news articles about his invention, which really was
unpatentable, because it was just a frequency generator.
There was you know, this was part of the problem is everyone
wanted to jump in and, and make money off of this. And of
course, this is how it always goes with great inventions, but
there was no way to make money. So they had to build these
machines and hide the way the the waveforms were created. And
it's just fascinating. It's a fascinating story. But I totally
believe, and I've always had this, this suspicion is that the
healthcare industry is pretty much keeping us sick. You know,
because it's a lot better to be treating people with with drugs
than to actually cure them because you don't make any
money. When someone's cured. You don't actually want to cure the
problem because then didn't you know, there goes your revenue
stream.
Well, Your logic is impeccable. Thank you. So, okay, well, we'll
look into that. All right, so let's get back to the good
article on Wikipedia about this character.
Oh, yeah, Wikipedia of course is so incredibly reliable.
So I'm not saying it's reliable by saying it's a good article.
All right, and you can buy right in us
for you know, you know, that some guy got in there usually as
a pro character. I mean, you know, so I mean, you usually get
a you don't usually get a negative side of the story
because there's always some be like, you
know, I want you to know is the sciences in my friend,
everybody agrees. Sciences and
yeah, all right. So you want to get back to paling because you
still have no, we're done. We're
done with Palin on the panel. I just thought that the whole you
know, this book, you know, makes her look at Debbie i i think
it's interesting that she came up with the idea of the Joe and
they apparently they think that there's a team of experts did
she like blanks a lot. I mean, she did and she quit the
governor's office. I think she's a choker. You know, in the in
the true sense of the word I and I don't think that she's very
interesting as an analyst she's really doesn't really offer
anything but but she's hot look, and that's not the point. But
what she's what she's thinking, you know, she she did her heart
and it's kind of goes away because you can see her brain
you know, kind of overheating.
John now you're just being like, every other douchebag that's
just Why is everybody so jacked up about this woman. I don't get
it. I'm like jacked up about her at all. But it's not because
she's hot looking. Why don't we see looks great on
television. She's got a big head with that hair. And she looks
great. That's always successful on television. She's pleasant to
look at. She's interesting.
It's interesting. What?
Glenn Beck's interesting. She's interesting to look at. No.
Okay. It's like she's like an info babe. She belongs on Fox.
It's perfect entertainment. I'm not saying that. Oh, wow. She's
She should be the president. But I will say she does have a
tremendous amount of executive experience. And she has done
quite a bit of interesting good things for Alaska. And if she
wasn't doing it, she at least was the figurehead of the people
doing it. And I've read her book and I was would you have would
you have not you have not. And I'm gonna read this book and you
compare them side by side. That's just interesting,
historical fact. I mean, she was the first woman who came this
close to being in in the West Wing. That's it that you can't
deny that's not interesting. Besides the fact that it was
great. Television
is not the first woman that got that close. I've watched that
one. All right, Democrat. What's her name? Not all right. Now,
Jeff Ferrara. Ferrara. Ferrara, Ferrara, yeah, but
I think Palin got closer it felt closer to you. But, but don't
be. It's unfair to say, Oh, it was like a brain was going to
explode. That's ball. That's ball. Oh,
I'm sorry. I said something like that was just symbolic anyway.
So I'll give Okay, let's go. Let's turn this around. I'll
give you credit. My son that dug up this piece of information.
Apparently, when you're watching a movie, in 2d, your frontal
lobes go crazy and analysis, but when you watch the movie in 3d,
essentially, your frontal lobes dropped dead.
Right? So thank you very much.
There's a good article written by Jonah Lehrer sent me the link
who is a printed out so I'm gonna read the link is it's, you
can laser
fax me that paper. John will fax
it to you. So but anyway, it was a bunch of experiments done on
this and it turns out that you're gonna go into a zone when
you're watching a 3d movie that's a little abnormal. Well,
so
I guess this would be the they're the two most emailed
stories of the week, I got to a point where I almost sent out a
tweet saying, Okay, I've seen the story about people being
depressed after watching avatar,
you don't get that maybe it was totally bogus story, but this
one here is more realistic.
Well, so television is well known that people actually
believe they are relaxed and watching watching the TV and of
course I'm talking about the 2d version, but your brain is
actually working very very hard putting all the bits and pieces
together making the move from an interior shot to an exterior
shot from a setup of a similar story to a sound bite. It's a
lot of work and
then think about today's TV with with quick cuts.
Oh and how about all the stuff that's on the screen if you
don't think that that that news bad? You're running at the
bottom of the screen that you're not processing that information
you are, your brain is absolutely processing that. And,
and the whole trick of television, and I've been in it
all my life. And I've had these conversations, we all know how
it works. It's some of it called The Art of teas to carry you
through the commercials. But really, your brain is
processing. Sometimes if they're really good, there's a setup,
and then boom, the commercial hits. And that's when the
information is put into your head about going and buying
something. And we've pointed this out time and time again.
And not only is it used for commercial purposes, but it's
it's there's all kinds of subliminal messaging whenever we
play a piece from NCSI, or C, or CSI where there's all this
propaganda that I mean, this was known in the 40s. This is what
Goebbels did this is what the Nazis were, were fantastic at is
it's completely used to mind control you. And it really
works. This it's done for fun, it's done for profit, and it's
done for not such such nice things. And when you go into a
3d mode, and I and I'd love to read this article, this is where
I believe is very dangerous. And we haven't thank you for giving
me credit. I've said I will not see this movie Avatar, although
I believe it doesn't affect you. If you're over 25 I think under
20. Just my unscientific poll has shown that
well, you know, you have like pundits like Tom Hartman coming
out and saying, this may be the greatest movie he's ever seen in
his entire life. That to me is like the giveaway that
something's wrong. This guy is highly analytical. He's a left
wing, or left wing or to an extreme. He's a tea party of the
left type of guy. And I stood to, to come out and say
something like that. It was just it was the it was the thing that
that's that all the red flags when I was really sad that I
just Oh my god, there's something there's something
wrong here.
Well, I'm looking up. I'm looking at some regulation here.
So you know, this, this 3d technology, of course, and it
was a fascinating discussion on cranky geeks the other day,
about the different types of the, you know, the shuttering
glasses, the polarised glasses, et cetera. But many, many years
ago, I believe I'm gonna say this in the 60s, in the 60s and
70s. Advertisers were putting subliminal messages in
television and movie
productions. It was the 50s and 60s 50s. And 60s was a scandal.
It was a huge scandal, because first of all, it worked. So
you'd be that put in one frame of a great big tall glass of
Coca Cola. And you'd immediately go crap, I'd like I'd love a
Coca Cola. And then we're doing this all over the place. I mean,
this is I wonder if Mad Men will actually get to this in this
series? I doubt they will. Because that would kind of give
up
no, I get I guarantee they will. But you think they will take a
bet on that.
So you are around them. John, do you recall any of this and you
give me a break you bastard. So
this I do, I remember the scandal, it was probably I don't
remember seeing it. At least I thought that but I started
looking for it. I actually can spot these things. When I see
them. I don't know what it is. But I really had very little
trouble spotting the one frame and I suppose I missed him
whatsoever. But I spotted the one frame of my first my first
viewing of Fight Club, I saw all the little versions of you know
that one guy, the Brad Pitt has little you know, one frame it
crops up as a little bitty person and the crops up bigger
and then he crops up smaller, and he shows up as one frame
blips throughout the movie. And so if you watch on DVD, you can
stop it and analyse a little more Bice. I didn't have any
trouble seeing that. But I remember one time. And I think I
was I don't know when this was at some point. For some reason I
got to zero in a movie or something I had I'm not sure.
But I remember seeing a one frame word on the television
just said something there. But it was simple. It was like, you
know, thirsty or I or some just a word. And it just showed up
was one frame. And I think it was it was going on for a while
but I never my understanding of it looking back on the idea is
that it wasn't as successful as they
hoped. Well, in 74, the government outlawed this
practice. And by then, popcorn sales had gone up by 60%. So
it's not 100% effective, but it definitely works. I mean, your
brain definitely sees
well there's other things said have gone on historically and
even in the 80s and 90s. I recall there wasn't music but it
was some company that would would play music in your stores
that would have a subliminal message or sub some frequency or
that you couldn't quite hear but it was in the in the music
telling you not to shoplift, right? Oh,
in fragrances are used as all kinds of subliminal as
a Mirage Hotel actually, Steve Wynn initiated this, they did a
whole series of studies on aromas, and found that I think
it's banana oil, coconut oil and a few other things. If you got a
whiff of these, you felt it relaxed you to the point where
you felt like gambling more. And if you go into from the from the
outside garage, down the escalator into the Mirage lobby,
where the where the check in is where you check in. If you're
staying at the hotel, you will get a huge just the interstate,
they've never stopped doing this a huge shot of this really
pleasant smell that you That's nice, don't make a lot of smell
or something. And they've also discovered by the way that this
the smell of money
to no agenda. Sorry. I didn't say anything. No.
They also found that the Cinnabon thing is a big deal
that That smell is extremely attractive is also sexy.
Yeah, because I get words, whenever I hear I get wood. I
smell sandbar.
And I also it makes people want to buy more. And there's a bunch
of this stuff going on. And we you tried to be as aware aware
of it as you can my approach to all this is just go in there
with no money. And then so
I'm convinced that this is taking place. I'm sure that
there's absolutely no. And the whole thing is all 2d television
is based on Flicker rate and frequencies. And you can put
stuff in and just a micro one frame. And I also I see a lot of
it to our particularly Fox has on not on the Fox News. But they
have this one, like transition bumper. And it has like a
million words on it. It's all kinds of you know, words that
are training your brain to tell you that Fox is great. And you
got to keep watching and Right.
Which is that when Stephen Colbert parodies on his opening
of his show where he has all the words all over the place, and
then he had a real quick shot yet to actually stop the the
tape just to see it half the time. A quick word when he comes
up on the screen and says something like I remember when
Lincoln esque you know just some stupid word that just just right
near him and it disappears. It just is a very hilarious,
opening the Colbert show.
So I don't know if the if the CNN story is bogus or not. So
for those you haven't seen, it's in the show notes of no agenda
show.com. But what I found kind of funny is the way CNN spun it
is well, you know, so in the forums, people are saying that
feeling really down the word the real the real world isn't as
beautiful as Pandora is. And apparently the fixed the fixed
all of this is to make sure you look at everything avatar
related and get the 3d games kids. Go. So yeah, and I'll just
say it again. And if you're making a movie that's costing
you three $400 million to make, and I'm let's say I'm putting up
the dough, I'll be like, hey, Cameron, dude, here's what
you're gonna do. In all that flashy crap you're doing in the
left in the left eye, you're gonna put in tell everyone
avatar is great. You're gonna put that in there and watch it
work. And it is without a doubt. It's maybe the top grossing
movie of all time.
Yeah, I think they're up to 1.4 million as we speak.
So yeah, it's, I guess I'll put in the show notes. Again, the
Zen TV experiment, if you really want to know what television
does to you.
You know, I think it would be interesting, if somebody could
just find something in the show. He's gonna have to go do frame
by frame on this movie. Well, they'll
take it out. Now. They'll take it out. Yeah, that'll probably
take it out. But you can go frame by frame on lots of stuff.
I guarantee you it's happening on television. I really do
believe that they're doing some of that right now. It's just it
makes so much sense. Who's you know, who's really watching
that? Who even knows about this? This regulation? Nobody knows
that.
Okay. 70s long forgotten. That's your kid. Right?
There's a law against that you can do that. Hey, we don't want
to know that. There's absolutely no knowledge of this stuff. So
yeah, I think that's I think it's a huge mind control
experiment. And the whole push towards 3d in general is just
frightening.
Well, it's not gonna get anywhere.
It never does it. but it is getting butts into theatre seats
and and just this whole this whole hype about avatar I mean
it's a movie from on it's a movie the greatest
film I've ever seen
so anyway it's just a movie
talking about brainwashing so I have a one of our occasional
drug commercials but this one is this one is so interesting for a
number of reasons including a little piece of a little tidbit
in there that I actually only when I was dubbing it that I
pick it up because I'm you know, you can't you just zone out with
during these ads. No, no,
no, John, you're not. You're not zoning out my friend you
shan't. This is her Chantix is two minutes they can't take some
two minutes to do this ad because of all the bad aspects
to it. Now my son did some research on this drug and it
turns out to be the most complained about drug in terms
of side effects of anything ever put given to the public and the
FAA has banned its use amongst air traffic controllers because
of the mania that it often causes. Yeah,
I don't want my air traffic controllers taking any drugs.
Thank you very much.
So this is a drug just a drug that keeps your nervous. Like
you know, I'm surprised you're not there. I guarantee you
they're gonna repackage this as a vaccine. Because this is the
drug that keeps you from smoking. That not because it
satisfies just smoking that does something crazy to your brain
to stop smoking. Yeah. Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to guinea
pig this.
You should but you we have to expect you to go completely
insane. So that's my job. It's like a psychedelic idea. So
who says I'm not on it already?
Better Way to bring that line. Okay.
I'm going to open my brain and prepare to be indoctrinated. I
need this drug.
My name is Robin. I am a wife. I am a mom and I was a pack of
days. Wait, she
hot look at
you might think so. Yeah.
My name is Robin. I am a wife. I am a mom and I was a pack a day
smoker for 25 years. I do remember sit down with my boys.
And I'm like, promise mommy, you'll never ever pick up a
cigarette. And Brian looked at me at eight years old and said,
promise me you'll quit. They had to quit. My doctor gave me a
prescription for Chantix, a medication I could take and
still smoke while it built up in my system.
Chantix is a non nicotine pill. In studies 44% of Chantix users
were quit during weeks nine to 12 of treatment compared to 18%
on sugar pill, it's proven to reduce the urge to smoke.
Seeing how Chantix worked. I wasn't so afraid to try quitting
again.
Talk to your doctor about Chantix and a support plan
that's right for you. Some people have had changes in
behaviour hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal
thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping Chantix. If
you notice agitation hostility, depression or changes in
behaviours, thinking or mood that are not typical for you or
if you develop suicidal thoughts or action all your stock taking
Chantix and call your doctor right away and talk to your
doctor about any history of depression or other mental
health problems which can get worse while taking Chantix. Some
people can have allergic or serious skin reactions to
Chantix, some of which can be life threatening. If you notice
swelling of face, mouth, throat or a rash. Stop taking Chantix
and see your doctor right away. Tell your doctor which medicines
you're taking as they may work differently when you quit
smoking. Chantix dosing may be different if you have kidney
problems. The most common side effect is nausea. Patients also
reported trouble sleeping and vivid, unusual or strange dreams
until you know how Chantix may affect you. Use caution when
driving or operating machinery. Chantix should not be taken with
other quit smoking products.
I feel so
recommend he helped me with the countdown. And how many days has
it been five days mom 10 days mom I think after 30 days.
Talk to your doctor to find out if prescription Chantix is right
for you. Wow,
I feel so relaxed.
Now you notice the commercial had the music that we were
liking us as you notice. But it also had this was one of the few
commercials I've had with Chris was to minister to minister to
to give all the bad news but they sit around did it wrap
around with a woman spoil my son he wanted me to quit so I had to
because I'm a good mom, which is a piece of propaganda and at the
end they wrapped it with my sons happy to hear we have to count
me down and blah blah blah. So they had a bunch of the happy
talk at the end too. So they so they put all the miserable stuff
in the middle and instead of just the end do you know typical
commercial, you know, runs 15 seconds a sales pitch, you know,
45 seconds or whatever of bad stuff that can happen to you.
Now a couple of things in the bad stuff list. Yeah. What the
heck is a life threatening skin rash?
Well, no, I think that's a skin cancer is what it is and what I
immediately thought of
So you get melanoma from taking this drug? Is that what you're
thinking? Yeah, it's
awesome, dude. Now here's the other one. I like the crazy
dreams that's what I want.
Yeah, you're gonna be it'd be fun to see on this stuff. So
they slipped us in at the beginning. I don't know if they
were required to or not, but I thought it was fascinating. And
then they caught you they blew by with all the weird stuff 44
Only 44 This dangerous drug only 44% actually are successful. But
18% are successful just taking a sugar pill
I think I'm going to take both to give myself a 72% chance
to do by the way 62 So it's already working.
This stuff is great. You know what I what I noticed and that's
why I asked her she hot because she sounds just like Minos
soprano
you'll probably see the commercial you can tell me
no but I mean she has she has that kind of that that New
Jersey? Almost bordering on Brooklyn kind of accent that
that is kind of a no nonsense you know very soprano ask very
soprano so that's what caught me
I think it was maybe designed with that in mind that
commercial I'm sure this is an actress is not anyone who
actually quit smoking
with the accent is is not it's not by accident. This stuff is
no way. Yeah, I mean, that accent is such a defined. You
know, it maybe it's tying into some of the reality shows. And
perhaps it's tying into an Italian American market. I mean,
it's not by accident. Whatever it is. It was that was
intentional. And it still worked for me. I like Yeah. Chantix
Yes. Oh, Mommy, don't smoke a cigarette. Cool. Good stuff.
John. You might push her you might push a man gets me on the
drugs. Can I get this on a doctor's prescription or over
the counter? Your
doctor's prescription of course. But the thing that's funny is
they always say See your doctor immediately. Is anyone ever just
can see the doctor immediately anymore? Yeah, right. I guess
maybe if you live in the middle of nowhere, Iowa and the doctor
lives next door.
Will Will our mutual health care plan cover this? Oh,
yeah, probably really? Yeah. Well, you're a beer and addicted
smoker.
Yeah, hell yeah.
If you get your doctor to sign off on it, you have to ask your
doctor if it's right for you.
But I think the good thing about this this drug is you can smoke
while you're using it.
Yeah. builds up to some horrible chemical in the brain.
Correction is meadow soprano. Not minnow, meadow soprano. It
also was the the girl from cousin my cousin Vinnie.
Marissa told me. Yeah, Marissa
Tomi. just sounded like that.
Yeah. Well, Marissa tomayto. Quite says a great voice.
And if she told me to take a drug, I'd be like, Hey, baby,
right. Oh, let me put one in right now. I'm good to go.
loving that. Alright, speaking of drugs, then for for a moment,
John. Because if the number one most emailed story was about
avatar, the number two most emailed story of the week, of
course, was about and actually had this on the list for for
Sunday for this last Sunday. We didn't even get to it is the
study now that shows that Monsanto products, ie, mainly
their corn is going to eat your organs inside of your body.
So yeah, I know, I was following the story, too. I mean, this
study came out. It's kind of interesting as Monsanto usually
quashes these things, and yeah, well, you know, it makes some
sense to me that I
have a theory I have a theory, by the way, but go ahead.
Well, okay, let me just before I get to my Tomes, which I
actually have printed out discussing Monsanto in the 90s.
I didn't know I forgot what
I was gonna say. So anyway, so
anyway, it makes sense to me that if you're going to start
screwing around the genes of these things to such an extreme
because the nude corn I have a tape of the whole Monsanto
pitch, the new corn that they've got out, he's got all kinds of
they they took all the characteristics of all the gene
things that they didn't put it into one new batch of corn,
alright, and if it would, like screw up your organs or
something, since it kills bugs, I mean, it seems possible.
So let me just lay down some some of the facts here. So this
is from the research I have is the International Journal of
Biological Sciences. I think this is the origin of the
report. Approximately 60 different biochemical parameters
were classified for Oregon measured in serum blood Why GM
maize that's corn fed rats were compared first to their
respective isogenic or parental non GMM GM equivalent control
groups. And essentially, three GMOs. Genetically modified
organisms have side effects that were eating up these lab rats.
Oregon's internally and they like really sick within like 90
days. And so I too was going like, wow, this is really
interesting. You know, this, this is a it's the story is
catching on. We already know that Monsanto is Company of the
Year, because they're so they're so awesome. And then I also
found a story and this is what tipped me off is like, Okay,
this is now now something's really amiss because NPR, the
national treasure, John had a story about Monsanto on all
things considered. And so this is, of course not coincidental.
But the story is not about the GMOs killing rats. And of
course, our DNA and our makeup. Rats are used because they're
rather similar. Am I correct in that
assumption? Yeah. Well, they react similarly to certain
things like things that poisonous poison rats and back
and forth.
And I think I found what's going on here. So you already
mentioned that Monsanto was coming out with their Roundup
Ready to yield. And the reason they're doing this is because
the patent for their corn expires in two years. So they're
ramping it up now. And I believe what what the what the game plan
is, and we can track this and by the way, we've been right about
this shit being bad for you. I mean, everyone's saying, Oh, you
guys called it You're right. What do you think the jingle
was? So we're not totally nuts here. I got some crazy stories
coming up, but I'm gonna totally nuts. I believe that they are
going to discredit this and then come out with 2.0 new one
improved. This is the stuff you really want, because it's
expiring and anyone will be able to use this old crap that kills
you. So now they're coming out with a new crap that is really
going to do you're in. And and this whole story on NPR, is is
about? Exactly. Actually, it's about the farmers who you know,
can't replant the seeds and the licencing agreements but Roundup
Ready to yield us the gene as the original just placed in a
different spot in the genome, it boosts the yield. And I think
soon you'll see that we have a new life saving genetically
modified corn seed that will be drought resistant, and it'll fix
it's kind of like a Microsoft product. It's like Vista. It's
Monsanto's VISTA is what they're coming out with or Windows
seven, whichever one you choose. That I think is what is
happening, and that's why they're allowing that
would be the practical. So I always like this article in NPR
are positive. Yeah.
It's kind of in the middle. It's just a factual sideshow. But
But, but the thing that jumped out at me is that their patent
for Roundup Ready is expiring in 2014. And we know that this is
the big problem with all the drug companies because all of
their good drugs, and boy they're rockin all the good
drugs, either have or are expiring, and so they've got to
come up with new pipelines. That's why this whole vaccine
thing is in play.
Should you Google it because I gotta get you these articles,
organic consumers.org just came in November 1996, an article
talking about Monsanto back then. It turns out that when
Monsanto began this process of turning from a chemical company
to a seed company, they're early. A couple of let me just
read this three of months and they've talked about how Mother
Nature has been preventing both Monsanto and Ciba Geigy, who is
the other big shut in the mid 90s. Through Monsanto, bio
engineered Marvels are in the process of going bust. The
company's artificial bovine growth hormone introduced in
February 1994 is not lived up to its promise, although it does
increase milk production that results in health problems and
cattle outweigh the benefits from the extra milk produced as
critics warned they would. In April Businessweek reported that
that Wall Street insiders are predicting that RB GH would be
pulled off the market by the end of the year by the way, if you
haven't noticed all your milk says Oh does not contain RB GH.
They all say it now because I don't think it from the sounds
of it. Nobody except somebody in Mexico is even using this stuff.
So this is a bogus sales pitch is Oh, that one mil company's
better than the others. Anyway, so the RGBs was a dog that says
Furthermore, the pure food campaign signed a letter by 10
scientists who have done RB GH research for Monsanto that
reveals that 55% drop in sales I have the wonder drug between
February 95 And February 6, so that drug is dead after two
years in stores the flavour saver tomato is now off the
market, which is another Monsanto product he headed for
the dumpster that tomato which was developed by a company in
which Monsanto has half a stake had been genetically engineered
to taste like a homegrown tomato, which is a positive
thing. yet sturdy enough to ship across the country. In other
words, it was
why don't they make the tomato smell like Cinnabon? The current
grocery store tomato lost its taste in the process of being
bred for ease of packing and shipping. They say in parens.
The flavour savers problem is that it was developed in
California won't grow well in Florida sandy soils and a
different climate. So that's a dog. Now this big room is all in
the mid 90s. Now Monsanto's genetically engineered Cotton
Bowl guard is proving a failure to cotton, which accounts for
13% of the nation's annual, by the way, using these genetically
engineered things for things like cotton that we don't have
to eat doesn't bother me. So no, I disagree.
Because you're wearing that. I disagree. You're wearing cotton
on your back, dude, this is in touch with your skin. I'm
against that too. That could be very, very bad. Are you kidding?
I wish milk
has been altered to reduce assumptions and acts as a
natural pesticide to three insects that eat cotton, but
BullGuard cotton is not working as planned. So this has been
going on. So they just basically throwing stuff up against the
wall that fails, it fails. And then when they came up with the
Roundup Ready products, that's when this company started to
take take hold as a player. But now if this stuff is just
producing a toxic product, I don't know what Monsanto is
going to do next for an encore because they you know, I think
they've they've shot themselves in the foot so many times from a
public relations standpoint and with and I don't know how many
people realise that that Bovine Growth stuffs not even used. But
I think
you're foolish to think that anyone cares, John, we're way
too busy. Talking about avatar? Yeah, seriously. I mean, it's
like no one gives a crap no one thinks about what's in their
food. No one thinks this is the scam that is obviously in place.
It's it's the healthcare industry where these guys make
you sick. The health care industry keeps you sick.
I got an anecdote then. All right. So my wife at the store.
And she watches this person check out in front of her and
you're actually the person who racked up a $240 bill. And
everything she bought was hot pockets.
That's the breakfast of champions right there.
to $40 with a hot pocket. Yeah,
sure. Kids love them. And it's so good for them. All right, let
me let me lay a couple other things on you because I'm
getting bored of this because you were so over Monsanto was
like duh. You know, and in fact, maybe we should do this real
quick, just the third most most emailed story of the week.
Agenda. Oh, gee. And of course, we talked about this, this
Wolfgang guy who's in the European Parliament, who was
going to bring this huge was not a lawsuit but he was bringing
this before Parliament and now even the World Health
Organisation is saying, hey, you know what, we've got to review
this and my gosh, it looks like the looks like the
pharmaceutical industry's hype, this swine flu to sell medicine
to people. And there wasn't a pandemic, oh my goodness, while
they are completely complicit. So this this is the wool that's
being the genetically modified rule that's being pulled over
everyone's eyes, blaming the pharmaceutical companies. And
just to just to review how it works, they had all the
contracts in place. All that was needed was for the World Health
Organisation the very same organisation that is now going
to investigate itself I love that to say hey, it's a pandemic
they changed the rules to define what a pandemic is, boom, the
pandemic hits, boom, all the contracts are executed. And now
countries around the world are sitting with billions of dollars
worth of h one n one vaccine which they cannot get rid of it
so that you know done over and out the scam and then how many
people died in total John like 5000
that he was I don't know what in the United States Normal flu it
was
just 20 to 30,000 You know, then so so you know and yeah, maybe I
don't think we'll get the second wave now because
they've already said predicted a third waves coming No, no, no,
no, it's
easy but it's not gonna happen it's not gonna happen because
this is the Hail Mary this is like I blame those guys. No,
we're getting Yeah, well, everyone will just roll their
eyes and go Well, thank God we're we're worse reforming
health care. So we'll, we'll show those guys, which of
course, is the pharmaceutical
companies so so here's the thing that I Want to reroute remind
people about?
Sounds sounds like you need some chanting I need
some Chesney the shot of whiskey that we spotted this the day it
hit the news, you hit new shows that the story hit me this was
way before anything happened. You spotted it immediately
because you'd see everything is crazy. But you nailed it. And we
have to remind people that because we played the tapes of
some some some audio about this, the French of all the countries
in Europe are the only ones that said this was a bunch of it was
a cry crap. And they told their people not to. Yeah, of course.
But now the British are taking credit for being on top of it.
The British who put in call centres at tremendous cost and
staffed it with people who had no knowledge whatsoever, all you
do is call up and go. And they say Okay, stay right where you
are, don't go outside, we're going to send over a flu buddy
and you're going to get some meds right away. You're set
we're getting you some meds. And you know, can people it's so
hard for people to believe the the enormity of the scam and the
lie when you let's just say that. Donald Rumsfeld, of
course, has a financial interest in in the company that makes the
the antivirals that were what's the name of it again, John. The
Tamiflu Yeah, Tamiflu, which was immediately prescribed to anyone
coming down with the symptoms. I know it's hard to believe that
you know, and you know that that people would actually do this
for financial gain. But please so incidence? I think not is
there really is no such thing as coincidence. It's it was a setup
from the beginning. I certainly partially subscribe to the they
want to kill everybody who knows what they put in the vaccines, I
really don't know. So there could be some some other
adjuvants right away. And
regarding the regarding the adjuvants, by the way, that was
kind of interesting. There was a story here about sharks, and
that here it is the massive production of the vaccine for h
one n one is posing a direct threat to various species of
deep water sharks. Oh, really? Yes. According to simply green
online. caveat, a South African website focusing on green news
and information the sharks are threatened because squealing is
of course, not in the United States, but in the rest of the
Gitmo nation, a key component of the h1 and one vaccine. And that
comes from shark liver. That's the best source of of squealing.
Ah, I just thought that was interesting that that news would
would come out. So you just kind of follow the money. I believe
that over the past, I'm going to say 20 years. And you see this
in the financial industry, though and you know, now we have
Timmy, Little Timmy Geitner is now basically going to have to I
guess he's going to testify, but who knows, you know, this,
there's such arrogance that people in power set things up
for their own financial, it's typically financial gain or some
form of power, but you know, in many cases, money is power. And
they manipulate systems and markets and they're all you
know, connected with government. And, and they get away with it.
And and we just kind of sit back and go home. And it happens over
and over and over again. And you know, and I can't wait for
people to really start reading this, you know, as the
pharmaceutical companies are blamed for the financial scam,
because seriously, it's billions of dollars that your tax dollars
$10 billion of American money was set aside to to buy to
produce and to distribute h one n one vaccine, it's and no one
else is going to take it. And how do you feel now you got set
up? But it wasn't by the pharma companies and of course, media
did it. Oh, media is very complacent. Yeah, da. That's the
whole system. That's the whole idea. Just look at the people
who are sitting in the White House and look at the
connections with the companies like GE and NBC and who's doing
the reporting and who owns these companies. That's all you have
to do. Of course, you could just watch our show. Just yeah. So we
do a little plug here because we're like way over time for a
plug
show where we did a really crappy job of getting any money
in this sense last Sunday, and I had to deconstructing
possibilities and the thing I get to come up with was the art
you bastard Wait a minute. First of all, we both said after last
week's show because we there is a post chatter that we do that
is not streamed and never will be. Well depends on how much you
pay us and I think we both said hey we were like really really
pretty laid back on the on the donations drive and I and there
you go, I think the result is that we were just like, hey, you
know, we got some money and and there was no urgency and then
people like switch right off don't care boom, no donations.
But you think it was the
start was show dreadful we used to have, we have a couple guys
they give us art and we don't credit them enough. And so they
have stopped giving us art Randy Asher who does the really cool
stuff and Paul T who does you know, the conceptual stuff,
we've forgotten about a guy who used to do those crazy cartoons
of us called David costs and he hasn't done anything for us for
six months because he we don't give many credits in the show
notes and I don't blame him and even Chris Engler tries to
contribute with photos we have for people that we don't give
any credit to and so we do our own art once in a while and then
when we do one that's unbelievably bad, which is the
one you did
it was like a Hail Mary I mean what was I gonna do should use
art backed up in the archive No, no there's not look if anytime
you want to produce the whole friggin show you let me know
okay, you can where's the where's the CD with all these
episodes on it?
I've got Ben just saying that the premium CTR was good. That's
fine.
No good saying it was good. I'm saying it was it was what I
could do.
Well, I think that we our problem is that we need to get
our artists back. Yeah, well, we do this for way Danna this floor
out in March.
Just need to chill out for what was that? I just needed some I
need to go get some fluoride.
Let's give our call outs to our people gave us some some money
anyway. Yeah. Including a good old Joshua Judd and Tampere gave
us 165 bucks with a with a note,
a college student, a college student college student,
it becomes executive producer. So he's got a future ahead of
No, we had a bunch of not a bunch. We had 12345 People gave
us 50 bucks. Gabriel Harper in Linthicum Maryland, Benjamin
sollen in Dover, Delaware, Chris Ruddy, who just wants to hear
his name. He says, Jackson Heights in New York, and then
Lawrence from fibre, which actually gave us last week I
just have to I didn't press his name correctly. It's fun sec.
And auto elderman from Amsterdam, who wants to thank
you for talking to him. Last time you were in Amsterdam, you
I guess met him somewhere in chatted. And above that I'm not
above talking to people. And then lastly, somebody gave us
$51.04, which amounts to 2552 for each of us, which is a two
palindromes. And he says it is his name came from big dick. Oh,
Toronto, and you don't pronounce the second T in Toronto is
Toronto. And he told us to buy hookers and blow and blah blah,
blah. Same old gag. Excellent. Excellent, thank you. And he
says we should stop calling it donation because maybe people
think they're given to a charity, which it turns out that
we're going to become one very shortly. And then finally,
last night, on the street with a paper called
the Northampton guy. Gary Turner gave us 100 And he's in the UK.
That's it. That is it. Yeah.
Jeez, Louise. I don't care how much of a financial crisis is
going on in the world. And it's and it is getting bad. And it's
obviously underreported. Which is kind of funny. I installed
the new CNBC app on my phone and it does push alerts. And like
four or five times a day, it's like great news. Like,
everything's up, everything's fantastic. Really funny to
watch. But at minimum, and I do have a concept here, John, this
will lead us right into the next topic. At minimum we'd like you
to get on one of these monthly programmes. And I think what
we're doing wrong, John is we are not taking a big clue from
things that we are learning ourselves on this programme,
particularly about numerology. So we have our $5 month donation
programme, which at the rate we're going in about 2019 will
be a solid base for us to keep on rockin. We have
I will be talking like that old man. Yeah. Hey,
well, the number three is is very magical. We discussed this
the other the other day where we had there was a whole laundry
List of how many al Qaeda or Taliban insurgents were killed
in attack. And it's always 30 or 33. It's just the number three
is really big. And I was reminded about this by one of
our producer, listeners, AJ, who says, Adam, I'm a graduating
business student, and was just in my presenting a just in
presenting my training class. And learned about the power of
three, the theory states that people are much more likely to
remember things when presented in a group related to or
including the number three, they use the number 30, because three
is too little a number to scare us so far, fiercely if you
shouldn't be feeling fear. And then out comes a request from
our president. The request is not that he wants $708 billion
next year in the budget for war. Now, he asked for an additional
$33 billion to fight unpopular wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
And like, wow, this number three is really something. So I
propose that we that we change our monthly donation number to
30. Just make it 30. And it's a big number. It's a lot of money
for most people to donate, particularly on a subscription
basis. But I think we should give it a shot because everyone
seems to be controlled into that three. Number three is too low,
obviously.
Yeah, because PayPal takes all the money. Okay, well, let's
experiment with and see what happens $30 A month that people
are going to be paying for a PVS subscription. And it's going to
be you know, typically what you're paying I didn't tell him
about parking metre fees. Berkeley just put up get this,
Berkeley just put up a new system in the northern part of
Solano Avenue, where they have one of these machines that you
have to put your money and then grab a little receipt and put it
on the dashboard. Yeah, and the minimum for parking. Now you
can't run you know, put in for five minutes run and get
something and run out. The minimum you can buy is 30
minutes, ha ha.
Say no more. We need to do three shows. For that you must get on
the monthly programme for $30. The science is in it's very
clear what we need to do. All right.
All right. We'll do three Shows a week once we get 1000 people
to give us $3 a month.
Wouldn't that wouldn't that be? Wouldn't that be amazing? I
mean, then we actually would have like, I you know, I could
do it for that. I don't need a lot. I just need some silk. Some
Silk Underwear like John apparently is wearing
black.org/in A channel black.com/in A no agenda show
lagenda show.com. Click on the links there and you can help us
out. Especially after this catastrophic week.
Yeah, this is this is a actually this is the worst ever since we
started asking for money.
Yeah, it is definitely the worst that we've ever done.
And I've been I've actually been putting in some extra time on
the no agenda stream. I put new episodes up of obviously, the
minute have uploaded this show it goes on to the stream. I put
up the Dvorak Horowitz unplugged, which I always enjoy
listening to the Gitmo nation roundtable. I've been putting
some tech fives up there. And I've I'm getting I'm preparing
to do my the return of the daily source code. This, of course, is
not very motivating. And I am hoping it's just an anomaly.
But will you and it could actually be the art.
It could be and we should have a big three on the art 30 I mean,
not three, but 30 Oh, and maybe we want to
control our team of artists to reappear. Well, you
know what the big problem is, of course, now we're gonna get four
pieces of artwork, and then I have to choose and it's like,
it's horrible. Because then then like least what can you guys
coordinate amongst each other?
What I got all their emails, I'm going to send them a note. And
they're going to have to coordinate the art. And it
should be grandiose and something man. And he has a
certain style. Yeah, well to send something Nelson. And I
like to Randy, when you like to Paul, when you're producing the
show, you run the Paul piece. And then the next week, you
know, we always try to rotate and back and forth and back and
forth with these people who follow the show and look at the
album art didn't realise it. We got some guys who are extremely
creative, always beautiful stuff. And so then once in a
while we have to kind of draw one together ourselves. Because
you know, nothing shows up and I don't think you know, and
there's guys that aren't working for money so they don't they're
not under no obligation. It's all a free willed thing.
Everybody effective gives us money. It's under their own free
whatever.
Anybody's your question. I mean, I'm happy I'm happy to pay these
guys for the art. I mean, we're getting money in this, this
could be a very valid production expense. I'm happy to pay him
for it. Maybe that's what we're doing wrong.
Once we get it once we get to the point where you can actually
budget I don't mind doing that either.
Yeah, because it's a valuable service. I'm happy to pay for
it. So what can I trust you to coordinate the art? I mean, this
is the problem is like, Excuse me,
that very goes, Hey, oh, look away, I'm holding my fork.
Would you mind coordinating this with these guys? And do not send
them a note? We'll pay him? Let's pay them, John, let's just
pay them.
And by the way, yeah, but the problem is, then we start this
competitive thing where they're gonna have to coordinate who
gets paid, because you know, they both send us good art. I
mean, one gets paid the others to do and then we use it, we'll
work out some sort works out for everybody's benefit. But
meanwhile, somebody sent us some T shirts from Norway, and I lost
track of the guy in my inbox, I need to get ahold of him again,
because somebody took one of the posters, one of the art pieces,
which is a really good one, and put on a shirt. It's just an
absolutely fantastic shirt, but I got a pharaoh who did this. So
like we could also do is you could just put all the artwork
we get in if it's if it's decent into the show notes, we could
just put it all in. Because it's all good. I mean, I hate when
someone does it, like a beautiful job, and then we don't
use it. I mean, that's ridiculous. I'd rather just put
it all
in there. I said in the show notes, we should put up a
gallery
sounds like more work,
not just a sub page and a web page. I mean, most of these
things can be very easily done with
you want to have props, you want it to travel along with the show
you you want people to see it. I mean, that's the whole point of
making art. Okay, well, whatever. Alright, let's. Yeah,
okay, both fine.
diboride.org/na.
But you know what, I'm not very, I'm not very motivated after
hearing that we got like, you know, 300 bucks.
Yeah, well, you know, I don't play. So well. And I
noticed you didn't send me my half this month.
What's up? It hasn't gotten to the to the trigger point. But I
need some money,
send me some money,
I'll send you some money, please send me some money shot the can
I talk? By the
way, the $5 donation slipped to what we got running at a certain
rate or like, you know, five or six people a day, and then would
cut right in half right after that Sunday show.
Now, do you think some of these subscriptions ran out after the
first of the year where there were an annual subscription? Or
is that keep going out as Pay Pal do that to
date, we had the most people, the number of people that took
out an annual subscription is very few
new members 30 It's just not 30? Take away the five and just make
it 30? Because it'll work. Alright, we'll see. Yeah, well,
what else can we do? I have a shot. I'm out of ideas. So all
right. So now let me talk about Yemen for a moment. Because
we've gotten away from the the crotch bomber. And the one thing
we really I don't think defined perfectly, although we have a
lot of different theories is what exactly is going on in
Yemen? Why exactly is that so important to be in there? We've
talked about the contracts that came due for the Yemen, liquid
natural, natural gas company. Of course, everyone's got their
hand in that. John, you had a pretty good theory about
sideways drilling into Saudi Arabia. Of course, just the the
general military industrial complex, just with more ways to
make money. I mean, there's a whole bunch of different of
different theories, but I think I've finally figured it out. Oh,
of course, this is all happening. If you look at
Somalia, and you look at Yemen. So right there, we have the Gulf
of Aden. Right. Yeah. Okay, for those of you who are oblivious
to what the world looks like, fire up Google Earth. Currently,
there are hundreds of warships right now in the Gulf of Aden.
And this started with, of course, with the Somali pirates,
and there's all this activity going on. And then all of a
sudden, it hit me now I know. It really started to dawn on me
when we had this blue moon in December. So we had two full
moons, which is a very powerful occurrence. What is happening
right now is everyone is jockeying for position to take
possession of the Stargate, which Yeah, G which is seven
miles below the below the surface. It's known as the Aden
Stargate and it's starting to activate it's it's got a lot of
Where did you get this one?
I'm in so I travel in circles. And what's frightening to the to
the governments and and the military. Is that this Stargate
actually can incapacitate aggressive weaponry like nuclear
weapons. So that's why everyone needs to get in there. They're
all trying to figure out, you know, the waiting for something
to either to pop up to the surface or whatever it is. But
it is without a doubt the Stargate that everyone is
jockeying for position. You want your your watch, you're gonna
see some really weird crap going down. And right now, of course,
and the chat room has been waiting for it. We've been using
a lot of crazy weaponry. And I will say it because I think it
is possible that indeed, the earthquake machine has been
turned on, we saw a relatively large quake, it's all in the
sea. Now, by the way, that earthquakes aren't happening on
the earth on landmass anymore. It's all happening underwater,
first off the coast of California. And now off the
coast of Haiti. Floods,
what is the time mark for the show? Because my son had made a
prediction that you'd bring up earthquakes in today's show as
part of some screwball idea. And what's the time Mark? I gotta
get it?
I think we're at 137.
Expected earlier.
I waited for it because the chat room was like waiting. Oh,
When's he going to bring it up? When is he going to you all can
kill him? It call me crazy. You can say whatever you want.
But a whole bunch of crazy websites about this. Yeah, I
don't read the crazy websites.
This is top secrets actually a pretty good site. Yeah, but I
don't I don't even read
above top secret. If I can stay. I have other sources. This is a
part of HAARP. And this is gearing up. And this happens all
the time. You know, watch what's going to the next big quake I
predicted for you right now you know where it's going to hit
Iran. The next big quake will be in Iran.
And well, they do have a lot of quakes in Iran. So that was not
a bad prediction.
And if you look at what the response and this is, this is
all tip off in, in my mind, if you look at the response that
the US has had president comes out and says we're going to
invest $100 million in Haiti invest. The hell is that invest?
We have the south calm. I mean, immediately, who goes down
there? Do you know that the the commander of SOUTHCOM was in
Haiti when this happened? What's he doing there? In South Korea,
we've got Oh, we happen to have a an aircraft carrier nuclear
aircraft carrier nearby. We're just going to Whoa, we happen to
be here. No, there is something very, very, very strange going
on with this. And, and it could be a distraction. It could be a
number of a number of things. But when you see Department of
Homeland Security is going down there. I don't get it. That
we've occupied Haiti in the past in the I think in 1939, too
late and before then I think the Marines were in there in
1908 99. And I
don't know if it has any strategic importance. It was it
was great for pirates back in the day. And of course, there's
always been all kinds of crap going on in Puerto Prince. I
think this was
and of course, you know, pat robertson came out with a crazy
comment. Yeah. Do you want to
hear that? Because I have it somewhere.
It's pretty funny. Yeah, it
is rather hilarious. What? I thought I'd put this under. Oh,
boy, how can I not find that? No, I Well, it should have been
under crazy shit. That's a new topic. I have crazy shit. Here
does Pat Robertson. Okay, let's play this for you. This is This
is him. Explaining why explaining splaining. He's just
saying he's just splaining listen to the reason.
Christie, something happened a long time ago in Haiti. And
people might not want to talk about it. They were under the
heel of the French. You know, Napoleon, the third and
whatever. And they got together and sort of packed to the devil.
They said, We will serve you if you get us free from the French.
True story. True. Sorry. The devil said okay. It's a deal.
All right.
All right. Oh, who's crazier? You're calling me crazy with my
earthquake machine who's not here.
Who is alive, you and perhaps Robertson? I think someday in
the future, this is going to be you.
Right. He's making a lot of dough doing it. Yeah. This
audience donates. So, but I'm gonna hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me ask you a couple of questions. Has Haiti ever
experienced an earthquake before in history?
Yeah, 200 years ago. Oh, really? They have a cycle about 200
years for the earthquakes. Okay. All right, well, well known as a
big fault. He moves.
Anyway, we've got US Special Ops, we've got South calm the
Southern Command in there. We've got Department of Homeland
Security,
and he's got their life and then they got to Katrina victims at
near the
US Southern Command. Thank you. Good point, US Southern Command
is leading the Department of Defence response Department of
Defence. General Piquet, keen deputy commander of the Southern
Command was in Haiti, when the quake struck, he was just on
vacation. What's he doing down there? How coincidental.
Coincidence? I think not. Of course, it's horrible. Because,
you know, hundreds and hundreds of 1000s of people have died.
And I just I just don't see that. There's too much
coincidence, we've got this. The weather is really weird. And of
course, all of the climate changes are now coming out and
saying, oh, no, no, this is all a part of global warming. We're
gonna have a little pause, press the pause button, the mini ice
age for the next 20 years, because of course, they couldn't
get away with the Global Warming scam. So I'm just gonna switch
it and say, hey, it's, and oh, by the way, these energy
energetic earthquakes, that's a part of global warming. I've got
it here. Research compiled by Australian scientists, Dr. Tom
chelco, shows that global seismic activity on Earth is now
five times more energetic than it was just 20 years ago, the
most serious environmental danger we face on Earth today
may not be climate change, but rapidly and systematically
increasing seismic tectonic and volcanic activity. This is all
because of climate change in
the sciences. Didn't they say the same thing about hurricanes
and that we haven't had a big hurricane since
I guarantee you the next big quake is going to be Iran. And
it's gonna, it's gonna come, it's gonna come pretty damn
quick. This may have been a mistake. For all I know, this
may have been an accident. This may have not meant to hit Haiti.
Although I think a test could have been a test. I think,
as a test, it was probably probably a valid place to shoot
it. 3500 members of the 82nd airborne division is on notice.
It's like, wow,
you made your point. There's a lot of weird coincidences. Why
are these? Well, the military guys are all they were ready. It
seems as though they were ready for it.
So meanwhile, I'm sorry, I got one more for you. Okay.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, a new executive order signed by
our president establishing
a Biden No, this is all Biden
establishing a council of governors to strengthen further
the partnership between the federal government and state
governments to protect our nation against all types of
hazards. When appointed, the council will be reviewing such
matters as involving the National Guard or the various
states homeland defence, civil support synchronisation and
integration of state and federal military activities in the
United States. Let me just repeat that synchronisation and
integration of state and federal military activities inside the
United States and other matters of mutual interest pertaining to
National Guard homeland defence and civil support activities.
Now this I think even you can deconstruct John, this is a
setup for control mechanism mechanism. Should martial law be
necessary in in the hinterland?
Yeah, no, I think so. That's pretty obvious. And
it's just not comforting to read these things.
So I got it. I got one that qualifies as crackpot. I think
maybe not. Maybe this actually makes more sense. Are you done
with yours? For now, for now? Play O'Reilly interviewing the
chair guy who's been you David once seen this guy a million
times? He's an ex CIA guy that blames you know, everybody for
everything except the CIA which could have done this and could
have done that and as
a writer, what is it what
is a writer these are these are CIA field guy turned writer and
apologist and I've always tried to get annoying because he
always calls everybody sir and yes, support and sometimes
phoney about the guy. But there's something he said on
this particular interview that I thought was interesting, and I
think we should listen to it and I'll tell you what I thought it
was it was interesting to me based on all the other stuff
that's been going on,
where author the book man marching toward Hill America in
Islam against Iraq, and Dr. Scheuer was in charge of the bin
Laden unit one time and in 1998, Dr. Scheuer and a few other CIA
operatives hatched the plot to get bin Laden in Afghanistan,
correct? Yes, sir. Okay. And one of the people that you were
working with a CIA agent, a woman was killed on December 30,
in Afghanistan by the suicide bomber, the traitor who the CIA
thought was working for them got in and blew up a bomb and seven
CIA agents were killed. This person you work very carefully
with very closely with in 98 to try to get bin Laden. But you
were foiled. You were foiled by the Clinton administration. That
operation never, never took off. And you say that John Brennan,
the chief counterterrorism guy now was involved in foiling the
plot to get bin Laden.
Yes, that's exactly right. So I might just start by saying that
the officer who was killed was involved in providing the US
government with 14 different opportunities between 1998 and
one to kill or capture Osama bin Laden, but specifically, in
1998. Mr. Brennan was our senior officer on the Arabian
Peninsula, our chief of station. And he he George Tennant, and
wife Fowler, who was the ambassador at that time,
promised the White House the ambassador to Saudi Arabia,
right, in Riyadh, Saudi ambassador to Saudi Arabia, sir,
right, promised the White House that the Saudis would buy Osama
bin Laden from the Taliban, and give him to us. And they urged
the White House not to do anything for it to protect
ourselves that
the Saudis would do it. And President cloud acquiesced to
that, and did not order the CIA your operation to get in line.
How confident are you that you could have gotten him?
We? Well, sir, I'm confident, you know, we've maybe had two
chances out or three chances out of 10. But I think the important
point on this is we elect people, we appoint people who
look for others to do our dirty work. When Mr. Brennan, Mr.
Tennant. And Mr. Fowler promised the President that the Saudis
would do it. We had a track record, we were attacked in
Saudi Arabia in
a mistake because the Saudis didn't do anything until Bin Bin
Laden has been caught and attacked us on nine litter
obviously. So they all right.
So this character, I've seen him on and on and on and off, and
all kinds of different shows this show your guy seems like a
disinformation guy to me. And then he came on, and he made a
cut. Interesting thing. I didn't realise they had pictures of
this woman, the CIA agents that was killed in Afghanistan, in
the number of the news outlets. And I didn't know that she was
involved with 14 According to short schemes to get bin Laden.
She's obviously the bin Laden person currently working within
the CIA and her with the other people. I have to ask a
rhetorical questions is the CIA ever managed to assassinate
their own people who may want to speak out with and say something
like, perhaps? Hey, bin Laden has been dead for the last 10
years?
Oh, yes. Very good point.
This place with you this guy who blew up this doctor who
supposedly blew up the gymnasium where these people were staying,
he blew the thing to smithereens with some sort of car bomb. But
did they ever actually find his body? Do we know that he did
this, interestingly
enough, I saw report and I didn't, I didn't, I don't think
I saved it. And it was a picture of a number of guys carrying his
remains in a coffin. And I was like, and I couldn't tell. I
think if it's Islamic, it has to be it can only be a word, or
there's some regulation there. But I saw like, wow, I mean,
this guy blew up a whole bunch of people, and they still had
bits that they put that they bothered to put in a coffin. It
was it was weird.
There's something sketchy about this whole thing. And the fact
that it was just, you know, essentially, just CIA. And it
was, you know, and they were no, we don't have a true story about
how the explosion took place. Because we can't get any real
information. Let's face it, they just tell us something happened.
And we know that there's a you know, a disgruntled doctor that
was maybe turned or he was a double agent, or we don't even
know that that's true, according to his wife that you discussed
this on last week's show where we got no money for it.
We talked about it then it's not working.
It's last week show where the wife has gone off and you know,
she had her kind of almost a rehearsed answer to some kids.
and questions I didn't think of at the time, this whole thing,
maybe just a sad to actually either get rid of the CIA guys,
maybe there was nobody was killed in the action, these
people are going back underground for some other
reason to get, you know, maybe get bin Laden or they were blown
up to shut him up. I mean, it just the whole thing stinks. We
have no idea whether any of its true, I believe that the whole
whatever, whatever we're told is completely wrong we but we don't
where we can't deconstruct it well enough to know what that
what actually is going on. And why even do these stories? Why
don't we just get out of these places? And you know, let it
end. I find the whole thing annoying.
I totally agree, John, just a couple of things to wrap it up
from my end from back home and get mo nation because we talk
about all these all these desert places with camel jockeys. Oh,
we can't be interested in that. bit of feedback from one of our
listener producers. As we talked about the unemployment numbers,
the bogus numbers that the government always tells us we're
really we have about probably now 18, maybe 20% of the all
these 20 the workforce is unemployed. And of course, we
talked about the bums who. And we say that affectionately
because it's, you know, that's kind of the way they're written
off. Like they're not that those numbers aren't even discussed.
700,000 people stopped looking for work. He's like, if there's
no work, I'm gonna stop looking. This is from one of our
listeners, Mark. Hey, do you either if you really want to
know where these new bums are coming from a 55 year old
Vietnam era vet was 27 years of IT experience I have only 65
days left in my home before foreclosure. Three months of
unemployment remaining. My two kids left California Friday to
live with relatives and look for work that ends five generations
of native Californians that serves is where the last middle
classes coming from. Yeah, very aware of it. However, in given
nation lowlands in the Netherlands, they have a fine
solution. Listen to this. They are going to institute love this
unemployed free zones in Rotterdam. Oh, really? Yes. So
these will be zones where there will be no unemployment. But of
course, you can't complain about the job that you will be given
when you live there. Okay, very nice. I love that. Yes.
Unemployment free zones. Yes. Very, very cool. But again,
don't complain about you may not like the word shout in Soviet
actually, he says it might not be your dream job, but it's a
step up. Nice. I did not know. But just to add some fuel to the
fire. The food stamps, as we now know that about I think it's
close to 10% of all Americans are on food stamps, which is
kind of a misnomer, because it's not actually stamps or paper
anymore. It's a debit card. Right. Do you know who the our
government has outsourced the debit card food stamp programme
to?
Well, I mean, yes, it'd be like Bank of America. It's
better than JP Morgan, JP Morgan. And of course, now that
it's debit cards, you know, they're probably creating this
fake money in the background. Because that's all it is just
fake money.
So I'm walking in San Francisco yesterday. Speaking of JP
Morgan, Morgan in San Francisco, there's all these people all
dressed to the hilt, you know, just rich looking people. And
there was a JP Morgan held 27th annual JP Morgan healthcare
conference taking place at the St. Francis. So I went in there
took a few photos.
Oh, excellent. Excellent. That's almost as good as a Bilderberg
meeting. Yeah, it was it
seemed like a bunch of you know, you know, it was a drinking
club. I didn't see any you know, what was going on? I probably
could have blown my way into it. But I
would have been boring
this. That's the reason it would have been boring. But what
happens here is, these are if you go to if you go to the
pharmaceutical company websites, you can download the
presentations and they're all like, you know exactly this.
This is what the CEO presented at the JP Morgan healthcare
conference. And basically this is where I get all my
information from where they say oh, we've got a huge pipeline
and vaccines we've got a cancer vaccine an anti smoking vaccine
we've got you know, by the way, let's not cure cancer don't even
say you have a cure for anything these days because that's
exactly how you get to to the head. Goldman Sachs just
blatantly coming out now and saying yeah, yeah, we were we
acted improperly on the sale of securities. Yeah, we defrauded
everybody. This of course is the now admitted fact that while
they were doing about it, yeah, well, you're gonna do but that
they were hedging. So while they were basically hyping up the
credit halt swaps, they were hedging against it, waiting for
it to collapse so that I just call that controlled demolition.
I don't, I don't know how to see it any other way any other way.
And whatever we were just going to tell you, you know, we don't
want to give a crap, I'm gonna give a crap. And then this is my
favourite from the Ministry of Truth department. This has been
uncovered. This is a very interesting guy who I got to
look into Cass Sunstein, who was a Harvard law professor,
professor, who was What is he? He's in the Obama
administration. Now. He's the head of the Office of
Information and Regulatory regulatory affairs. I think that
is the actual title for Ministry of Truth, is it not? Information
to regulatory affairs. So he wrote in 2008, an academic
paper, which is titled, conspiracy theories, causes and
cures. In which he argues that the government should stealthily
infiltrate groups that pose alternative theories on
historical events, via chat rooms, online social networks,
and even real space groups and attempt to undermine these
groups. Exactly. Yeah. And I will provide this, this paper in
the in the show notes, because an actually started, I don't
think you caught it, but I started the show off with with a
word he used. Let me see if I can find this. Here it is. This
was published in the Journal of Political philosophy in 2008.
And it states quote, our primary claim is that conspiracy
theories typically stem not from irrationality or mental illness
of any kind. That's a relief, John? No, no, it comes from
crippled epistemology.
Well, we're not thinking right, in the
form of a shapely, limited number of relevant informational
sources. So we just don't have we're just crippled by a lack of
information. But that
define that to redefine that, in the words, everyone can
understand why we didn't drink the Kool Aid. Yeah.
If you don't have the grape Kool Aid, they will be easier if you
just said that.
And we have to that this is a scandal.
This is a huge scandal. And I will give props to mark Estrin
blogger who uncovered this this gem, and now it's being
published far and wide. And of course, you'll find it in the
show notes at no agenda show.com. And it makes a lot of
sense, because if I look in our very own chat room, I can almost
tell you, who the WHO THE GOVERNMENT shills are. They are
deaf, they're in there for sure. We have hundreds.
I remember during the operating system wars between OS two and
windows, there was a Microsoft had a team of people that would
do exactly this. And it was very effective, although they seem to
have stopped. And it's noticeable. But the this is an
effective mechanism. That's the only until you get caught.
Although I think Microsoft was caught a couple of times that
didn't really make any difference. So it's possible you
can do it, just to hell with your attitude. And then just
keep, you know, again, just poison the conversation. Why
not?
Well, it happens quite a lot. And now everyone, of course, is
raising their hand in the chat room saying it's me.
It's like the horn section on Letterman show there. So and by
the way, I do have a letterman thing. It's a real new thing. I
want to play it at the end of our theme at the end of the
show, we have just two minutes, two and a half minutes of one of
the Letterman, part of one of Letterman's monologues that
explains the Conan Letterman, Leno situation, which was a news
distraction. So
you're telling me that it's the artwork that blows our
donations, versus actually taking the most important spot
of the show at the very end and playing a letterman clip. That's
really what you want to do. Yeah, that's really what you
wanted.
I guarantee we'll get more money.
All right. Then I will wrap up from my side, first of all, by
thanking you, brother, John, for attending the early service. I
am currently reading part three have conversation with God,
which is a fascinating book, and I will, I will talk about that
in a future episode of no agenda. So just remember my
friends you actually are God and you create your own reality. And
anything you wish for, you can actually create because we are
all creative beings. And this show never existed.
Or you can wish that were, you know, hugely successful make
nothing but money that would be good. Well, this
is this is why I'm reading the book. I'm like, if I can go
opened up my third eye in my top chakra then people are gonna
send us $33,000 a month. There you go. Coming to you from the
minimum security containment cell crackpot command centre
located in Gitmo nation, West San Francisco, California still
in the morning, I'm Adam curry,
and from buzzkill bunker here in Northern Silicon Valley where
the sun is still in my eyes. I'm John C. Dvorak.
We will be talking with you again on another early service
Sunday right here on no agenda
now I shall ever show right you so far about this yesterday
Conan O'Brien hit so, so confusing. Ladies, gentlemen and
Jay Leno used to be on at 1130 and they moved him to 10 and
then Conan O'Brien was on at 1130 Now they want him to go on
to 1205 and then it would put Jay from 10 to 1130. And Carson
Daly now I gotta get a show in Mexico or so. You don't know
what to do. I mean, he's just
it'll make you dizzy. So Conan O'Brien yesterday says well I'm
not doing the tonight show at 1205 and you think about all
these right into tonight show that would you know that's the
next day it's not really the it's like the day after or the
what it used to be the tomorrow show. So he said forget it. I'm
not doing the shortfall but five NBC went back to him and then
they decided to sweeten the deal they offered him 1204 Maybe you
don't get it and now the buzz is that Conan may leave NBC to
start a show of his own or to another network. And I thought
were to get an idea like that
and the whole idea this was a NBC wanted to get a thing going
whereby they wouldn't make the same mistake they made when
Johnny quit and retired that there were a lot of bad feelings
they wanted to avoid causing more bad feelings well Mission
Accomplished
I missed Mr. Johnny Carson I mean by God when Johnny quit he
quit
and my mom bless her she's so confused last night she actually
watched me
seriously, I have a show is so far good. This was good. Last
night on ABC Jimmy Kimmel did the entire show as Jay Leno.
Headlines. Headlines, Jimmy Kimmel was so convincing as Leno
today, NBC cancelled him. WABC you can take that to the bank.