Adam curry, John C. Dvorak
is January 10 2010. Time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 164.
This is no agenda, practising
acting normal while on heroin and coming to you live from the
minimum security containment sell crackpot command centre and
get mo nation West San Francisco California in the morning
everybody I'm Adam curry
and it's foggy here in Northern Silicon Valley very foggy even
though it's a spare the air damn John C. Dvorak. Raglan buzzkill
in the morning to you, John.
Is it foggy over there?
It's a little overcast. I was I was hearing people complain
about that spare the Air Day. What's the deal? We're not
allowed to light a fire on the on days like this.
What's the hold your breath? Yeah, you're not supposed to
light a fire. So if you're freezing your butt off, you
can't light a fire.
What kind of bull is that?
Like a moat? Most of the sometimes during the colder
months we have these inversion layers. And so when you light a
fire, the smoke doesn't dissipate properly causes smog
supposedly, but I think it's exaggerated. Come a little
closer to the mic, John. It sounded quite right yet.
rarely talk like this is better. Yeah,
I don't know. It's like, I don't know what it is. I just don't
know. It's whenever we do the show and um, anywhere but here.
It sounds great. Whenever I'm here and I could probably spit
across the river and hit you.
And you know, guess what? What? You're not going to be there
long.
No, no kidding. Did you see the did you see that Wired article
about the bus station?
Yeah. Did you see the live drawing of this? Suppose at bus
station?
Yeah, it's like 14 levels for underground. Oh,
TJ where does it search TGV doing it? So I like to know
what a French you mean, the high speed rail from France show the
train
at the bottom it looks like a French TGV or strength in
Germany. Where are they? I haven't seen one. I see a
clunker going down that route 910. In the morning down the
track you're hobbling along wiggling back and forth the
tracks bending every which way? I haven't seen any of these
things come a little closer still hug them like now? If I
was any closer, I'd be on the other side of it.
Okay, well, not quite that close. Who knows what that's all
about.
Anyway, the point is, is the turn me
up? Well, it's not the question of turning you up. It's
dynamics.
Dynamics. So we have an executive that you have to give
the executive producers name out. Yeah. Today's executive
producer, we have two of them. The executive producer and and a
associate. The executive producer is Peter White.
Hey, wait a minute. Didn't Peter White send us some audio clips
today? Kitty? Yeah, I think so. Okay, well, Peter White, nice.
Grab his clips because I don't have them. Okay. $250.05 Wow.
And he's in Cambridge.
Yes, it is that Peter White? Indeed. Indeed.
And we have an Associate Executive producer from the
Netherlands. And then middle coupe, middle cope. Middle cope,
que Opie's cope middle cope. Okay middle COVID You know we
need screw and you know the only reason that that she was mad is
because you're the only one that can pronounce
this right it gives a town the town is even
you know is okay, this Delft Gao y de el FGAUWGAULF del del Cabo
Del Sol sounds like a UW del how yes why said Yeah, exactly Delta
file. As a as a note, this is well deserved donation and he's
a associate executive producing news is on his bio, you'll
explain in a minute. He says well deserved donation for the
funniest mainstream media killers, you should be illegal
to listen to while driving. Cool, you got married and some
that didn't do a 107 has to do with his marriage date. And, and
he he's our Associate Executive Producer. And these are two
official titles that are legitimate. Yes,
they are. Well, I mean, I was watching the player last night
which is a great movie if you've never seen this. This is was
that the Robert Altman's swan song was that the last movie he
ever directed?
You know, I think he'd write a couple of films after that. So
Why that's a great movie if you're in the business.
Exactly. And I was just kind of vibe and Mickey hadn't seen it
yet, which, of course is amazing for the business she's in. And
when you see this movie, you realise how important all these
titles are. And you know, and how bullshit that industry is.
And so if you can actually say, Excuse me, I was an executive
producer on this project. And people take that seriously,
particularly in media land, it can certainly get you gigs and
it can it can further your career and your life experience.
Yeah. And so you get to you that and the fact these two guys, you
know, essentially finance today's show. Yeah, there was
one
other special mention I wanted to make. There's a website World
War warehouse.com. And I'm not quite sure what they normally
sell on World War warehouse.com I can only guess. But on the
homepage, if you go to world where war house World War
warehouse, world horror horror house, World War warehouse.com
due to problems with our supplier, the World War
warehouse.com will be down until mid January 2010. In the
meantime, please visit a wonderful and educational
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to Adam Korean John C. Dvorak podcast, no agenda and have a
link to no agenda show.com Which I thought it was awesome. A
couple of people pointed that out to me and again, I can't
wait to find out what they actually do sell.
Probably implements of mass destruction. Yes. You want to
hear the implements of media destruction.
Yes, media. Media assassination.
Let's listen to Yeah, lined up today.
Well, just quickly that I want to play the clip that today's
executive producer Peter White sent him because of course you
know, the exec producer, he gets to determine what's on the show.
And he sent in a short clip from the BBC. This is the local
weather douche as he calls him. And I think that what let me
just make sure I'm playing the right clip. Could be really bad
if that wasn't the one.
Weather douche? No, maybe
it was something else. No, I think he actually sent in the
home on it'll be worth it to find this from him. Was it the
weather? Touche. Yeah, no, it was Cambridge. Here it is. Hi,
John. And Adam, on behalf of all the good energy therapists at
LinkedIn complementary health centre in Cambridge. Now, we all
had the good fortune to enjoy hookers and blow in 2010. This
is how our executive producers communicate with us. I gotta
tell you the code. Yeah, it's all code. So a couple of
hedonism. Anyway, he was listening to the BBC radio
programme in our time, in which the host interviewed for Royal
Society now, do you know what the Royal Society is?
Yeah. Isn't that the kind of the Uber group that dominates the
scientific discourse in England?
Exactly. And they know better than anybody, of course, and
they are the elites, and they know it all so well. So because
of this interview with Lisa Jardine, who was a according to
our executive producer, Peter White, a science pundit and
talking head, his arrogance and ignorance were breathtaking, and
are the sole reason he jumped on to sponsoring our programme and
becoming an executive producer. So I'd like to play this short
clip of Lisa Jardine, of course, this is about climate change and
how stupid we are, how stupid we are not to believe in it.
I think that a learned society has to turn its attention to
what it has always been best at, namely lobbying for the
infrastructure in terms of public education for science. I
mean, this is a moment. This is a moment when we learn that 40%
of the British public do not believe that climate change is
man made. Now that means they're not properly educated. That
means they don't know how to assess the evidence. There's no
argument at all on the other side. Science is always about
probabilities and likelihoods. And it's never about
certainties. But you have to educate your public at large to
understand how to pursue those arguments. And we have failed
miserably doing a logical
Yeah, of course he's saying no to science is never absolute.
But clearly we failed to educate the the idiot plebes.
Yeah that aren't believing lockstep climate change. This is
dumb. I was gonna
play the jingle here. Sciences Yeah, but that's the attitude.
That is the attitude of the elites. That's exactly how they
think.
Hey, well, she means more of a sceptic education and scepticism
she He's agreed to Hegel or something. Anyway, so. Yeah,
well, that's interesting. But you know, I think the news this
week is mostly an extension of what we first picked up on on
the last show. Yeah. Which was this rationale promoting
waterboarding? Yes, I have a bunch of clips I want to play.
Maybe you should just retrace the tracks for a second there.
John does help everyone understand exactly where this
where this topic is coming from in case there are new listeners
which there always are.
We are starting to notice in the media a subtle and sometimes in
the case of the clips I have today not so subtle promotion of
waterboarding as a as a commonplace it almost to the
point where it's like, we're not doing waterboarding. That's
crazy. Because we know it works. Because we know it works. And so
I have a bunch of clips of the the pro waterboard is by the way
should be ashamed of themselves. For one thing we know that
torture doesn't work in and if you're going to do too and don't
want to sound like a hypocrite here, but if you're gonna do
torture, I don't think you should be bragging about it.
Just you know, do it and you know, get out of town if you're
gonna have to eat but it's but it's not effective. The only
thing that toward torture is good for us kind of to scare
people. It's because you don't want to be tortured. And I would
like to have Spanish Inquisition let's say, which is what we're
talking about here. But it doesn't work. Everybody's
proven. It doesn't work with it. I think there's a number of
sadists in the society, who just the idea of torturing people,
you know, I'm sure you guys are pulling fingernails off and
watching people scream and cry and bleed. And the fact that
people and it's mostly Republicans, I might add,
although as No, I
disagree. No, I disagree. I think there's plenty of
Democrats who are talking about
well, there's not I still think the Republicans are more more
overt. The Democrats are subtle, and of the Republicans are
extremely overt Bill O'Reilly being one of them. And others
and I want to play some clips that just indicate this is a
short clips of O'Reilly, talking about waterboarding with the
meme that it's effective. It's a way we could have got more
information from this Nigerian idiot.
Can I just point out for this, this crotch bomber. Now of
course we have pictures of of this young man. He's like a 23
year old punk. Yeah, he looks it looks like he I mean, literally,
he's just a 23 year old punk. I'm like, this is the guy who
did this. And where's his beard? He doesn't he doesn't look scary
enough.
Yeah, where's his beard? The other thing about this kid is
that my son was pointing this out to me says he didn't he says
he didn't do it. He was
He clapped not guilty. He said he pleaded not guilty and I but
I'm still reading everywhere. Oh, he agree that he's a part of
al Qaeda and that he drowned in Yemen How does that work?
And what Al Qaeda guy who's ever tried to do anything like this
do it and bragging about it guys who didn't even do anything Ryo
was I hate to us, you know down with America and all this kind
of stuff. This guy's not exhibiting any of those
characteristics or something phoney about this whole thing?
Well, and I have to do with this waterboarding deal.
Oh, interesting. How do you how do you how do you think
waterboarding has to do because they basically forced some kind
of confession out of is that what you're
getting? And that's the point you wouldn't listen to these
clips in this at all becomes
becomes clear. Okay. Torture one I presume? Yes. From
O'Reilly.
Also we need coerce interrogation to fight terror.
But come on, trying Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the
underwear guy in civilian court is one of the worst political
decisions I've ever seen. I can't remain silent on that.
Also, we need course interrogation to fight terror
talking about a plea bargain for this Nigerian loons so we can
get information is insane.
Okay, so that's number one. And he's here's what he says
waterboarding is needed to get but he's again we have this
contradiction because the guy's a Loon, according to O'Reilly
Come on, which will Riley says constantly, the guy's a loser.
What kind of information could he possibly have? So why do we
want to waterboard him? And meanwhile, he's proposing to
give information through a plea bargain. And what is it doesn't
any of these people mentioned that the shoe bomber was tried
in civilian courts and never put in get Mo and waterboarded?
Yeah,
I'm not quite sure. That's a whole different thing that has
to do with bringing the terrorists to trial and civil
court.
We're gonna keep withstand this mean, here's Bo Riley, again
with another segment. This is a completely different part of the
show. Might even be a different show, but plan.
We had the right policies, we kept our America safe after 911.
Now they're dismantling and they're putting everybody in
danger. As Karl Rove said, that's the responsible thing to
say, is it not? I don't think they're dismantling at all More
come on come on come on come on no course interrogation civilian
trials for heinous criminals closing Guantanamo Bay and
you're saying they're not dismantling it Come on Mr. Barr
Thank you. So that's Bob Barr. Who is a libertarian a very
famous one ran for president and here's come on come on come on
come on. O'Reilly there's no spin zone going on again about
course interrogation, which is let's face reality that's code
for for torture. So Riley's pro torture this is this is
something that we should all be so proud of. Click clip three.
Here we go. Thanks. That was awesome. Bill O'Reilly in the at
your beck and call segment tonight. The very controversial
Glenn Beck is out of the country right now at an undisclosed
location. Now I know where he is. But even if you waterboarded
me I wouldn't say
okay, apparently waterboarding doesn't.
O'Reilly is tough enough to be able to resist waterboarding.
So I found that to be just kind of interested in the ironic
Okay, so then we move on to other shows. Let's go over to
PBS and we go to the to the McLaughlin group and their radio
talk show personality who's always trying to you know, bump
and Coulter off her perch. Monica Crowley who's rather kind
of a oddly attractive blonde who's wears too much makeup and
is a very knee jerk. right winger?
And I'm not I'm not remembering what she looks like Monica
Crowley. Yeah, so me she kind of hot oh, wait a minute. I see.
Let me just show me just gonna give a little Google check so I
can Hmm, okay. Yeah, no, she Yeah, I little odd looking is
right. What's her background where she from?
She used to be she takes credit for for being Nixon's foreign
policy adviser when he was retired in Capistrano. Which
means that she was the hot chick in the Nixon house. Okay,
gotcha. Nixon was probably holding new get some action
with. That's the only thing I can imagine. And then she
somehow wormed her way into talk radio. She's gotta show that
I've got some guy who's gonna do a thing on her some time ago
because she is a birth er and she's, she's melodramatic, but
somehow again as the hot chick she got on the glaslyn group,
bumping like people who shouldn't be on this show. And
she has a vast talk and blondie is in the in the style of that
Kelly the original one came over 10 years ago. I can't remember
her name Lausanne. But she was a fast talking about and and
cultures and fast talking when they get these fast talking
blondes. And she's like, and she I think she rehearses her bits.
But she is classic in this realm. Again, she's a pro
torture person is important play this clip from her
that is escalating the drone attacks in Afghanistan,
Pakistan, and now Yemen. I've given him credit for that. But
on the other hand, closing Gitmo shutting down enhanced
interrogation techniques like waterboarding, which could have
extracted more information out of this Nigerian terrorists.
Those kinds of mixed signals actually, I think are
undermining the bottom but he hasn't closed
Gitmo the bizarre thing about the bass talking by and she's
again a pro torture and she throws in they could have gotten
more information from this Nigerian terrorist. The guys, as
you saw, you saw this picture. The guy's an idiot.
He's a 23 year old punk. I mean, he was in the bathroom,
apparently for a long time, because he couldn't figure it
out yet. He was highly trained.
Yeah, I mean, the whole thing is just sketchy. And well,
here's what it would really bugged me about all this. Where
are the interviews with other passengers? How come there is
not a single person being interviewed on any of these news
channels? Who was there?
No, there is one that has been brought on in prison planet that
one guy who came on with Alex Jones. And he says, and he has
his story of the whole thing includes you know, the guy
taking care and we did play the clip of the woman who noticed
somebody filming the whole thing, right. And apparently
that filming was taking place, even when the guy was
there. But John, there were four there were almost there was 380
passengers on this thing. I mean, someone at least get look
they I see news media standing outside hotel rooms where they
think Tiger Woods might be staying with some hookers. If
they're willing to do that. Can't they get at least one of
the 380 people on the list? Just give me some more stuff. It
feels like there's I mean, these people being silenced. whether
anyone was there ever a real plane? I mean, this is weird.
No, it is where do we do we only have the one guy who has the
accounts of the Indians, you know and bomb sniffing dog and
the FBI taking everybody aside putting him in a warehouse for
four or five hours or so. And ya know, the whole thing. The whole
thing is sketchy.
Well, it seems, it seems to me. And this
idiot you could what? What is it? What do you the point of
waterboarding him?
Well, I think I think there's a move here John. The guy wasn't
who he is in the Yemen. There's no other information to be had
from this character.
Now I think there's there's something different at play
here. I think this is an anti Islamist movement. And
everything I'm seeing and hearing on mainstream is pretty
much hey, we've got to get the most of the Muslims now we've
got to pay it. We got to waterboard them. We got to
identify them. We got to track them. I'm thinking maybe some
tattoos on their arms. That would be a real good idea. So we
know that they're Muslim. You know, this is this is this is
what's happening there. Seriously. Yeah, there were some
YouTube videos. Oh, God, I wish I had I didn't it was so
ridiculous. But now you bring this up. I didn't save it. But
there's literally you know, one of these, like, what colour is
the White House? Or can you name a country that that's name
starts with the EU? You know, and then people don't know it
dumb Americans on the street. And the guys out there, he's
saying, hey, what do you think about Muslims? Shouldn't we
identify them somehow, when they're in America and all these
people go? Yeah, that's a good idea. So how about something on
their jacket? Like a star or something? Yeah, that's a really
good idea. And like, you know, why don't we maybe should tattoo
a number on their arm? Yeah, you know, I think that would be a
pretty good idea. This is how stupid people are. There's no
education people have grown to be complete morons. And they
don't understand that we're going through a complete
complete genocidal process like that happened 5060 years ago is
the exact same thing and I believe this is a part of it. I
really do this this seems like an anti Muslim movement if
anything
well this this troll waterboarding stance that these
pundits are taking I find basically you know given that
you may actually be would make some sense because you're
talking about sadism elements that is that usually has a
racist tinge to it. I mean, you want to target some group of
people and torment them torture them, kill them, you know if you
can
or at least threatened to kill them that's that's effectively
what torture is. But now this is still legal. Right? I mean, this
is this has not been outlawed. Waterboarding we
will still while I'm a bandit.
Oh, he did ban it. Yeah, but he didn't he didn't prosecute
anyone for doing it or for approving it.
Well, they're still did if you play another clip I have there's
the laundry list because we want to slowly transition this
discussion into the Obama versus the CIA. I'm
not quite ready for that. Because I'd like to stick on on
the fallout from all of this because a lot of new information
has come to light or it could be disinformation for all I know.
Yeah, there's a lot of there's also some disinformation we get
to the CIA stuff. I want to talk about the bombing of the agents
in Afghanistan. But the because there's a couple of news stories
that we're gonna get much play. And but I just had these clips
for the specific purpose of pointing out to people for one
thing that waterboarding is not a joke. It was used in during
the during the Spanish Inquisition, it was a thing that
was used in the Tower of London as a torture. I mean, like the
Iron Maiden and why don't we go back to that while we're at it?
I
mean, what's the difference? We might as well
you know, pulling up fingernails isn't it doesn't kill anybody.
So, let's do that. Now. Let's drill down a molar like they
used to do in the 30s in New York City. Things you can do. I
mean, you'll do these people prove all these things as Monica
Crowley think it's cool. I mean, maybe she wears all leather and
and it has a whip, maybe they'll make more sand. Maybe she
digs it further. Well, here's a Fox News seems to be promoting a
lot of this. Although, the McLaughlin group is what does
that yes, that's PBS. Right. Well, Fox PBS, it's all the same
thing. And here's what I love. I love the whatever you want to
call it. Well, yeah. So there's the there's this and you hear
this on Fox all the time this the Rasmussen poll, and they've
branded this thing like you know, it came out of nowhere. It
used to be like you had the the time the Time Magazine poll, but
now the Rasmussen poll is brand that is oh, this the it's always
right. You know, the poll is always the thing that you gotta
believe in. If you notice that,
yeah, they're promoting it over, you know, some of the more
established polls that are generally better operated. Yeah,
so if people I know I've been pulled a couple of times, as it
were, and the
Yeah, I hear you. Are you in Poland a lot.
So anyway, the point is, is there a huge questions I have
run into polls pollsters, who You actually do ask a question
in such a way that it's like, you know, you're still beating
your wife kind of question. It's like I'm pretty amazing and to
listen to if you can deconstruct the questions, you can I always
like to take these polls because as even as a lightweight
marketing polls, because I tried to outguess the pollster and
figure out what this poll is actually about. actually get to
the point of it. Right. And generally speaking, you can do
that. Well,
listen, listen to this example of a recent Rasmussen poll. As
reported by Fox News, it'll be pretty clear what they're trying
to get to with the question itself comes.
Many Republicans have accused President Obama of being soft on
terror, particularly because of his opposition to the Bush
administration's tough interrogation techniques. Now, a
new Rasmussen poll shows that 58% of Americans say that
waterboarding should be used to gain information from the man
charged with trying to blow up that Northwest flight. Only 30%
Say it should not.
So you get the question there. Unbelievable. Yeah,
it's surely Republicans have accused
me of that. Yeah. So the question literally is should
water should waterboarding you know, it's not like do you think
waterboarding or torture is good or bad? No. It's should
waterboarding be used to gain information from attempted
bomber? That's the question. Come on. Yeah. That's,
that's what happened to the dialogue about waterboarding
early on. Even during the Bush administration, the dialogue
that that brought out the experts that say torture doesn't
work. All of a sudden that has been taken off the table.
Apparently torture does work. I mean, that's what we're led to
believe now. we're led to believe that torture works and
we should be waterboarding everybody. So why don't we let's
just take it to the next level at some point. Where do you draw
the line on waterboarding? Are we going to bring into the
municipal police department? Gangsters? Yes,
John. That's exactly the point. The point is to get you
comfortable with the idea. Every single journalist on the news
channel has effectively undergone war waterboarding we
saw them all do it. Okay, I'm gonna get waterboarded and see
what it's like. And of course they all live right. And they
live to tell the tale so that's just conditioning your brain for
it waterboarding ain't all that bad you know? So the force of
answers out here you know you're not going to die. Of course
people do die after being waterboarded I mean, that's
that's pretty well documented. It does go wrong because you're
simulating drowning by actually drowning someone.
That Crowley also brought up the
board for her oops, sorry. Freudian slip. We should
waterboard Crowley that's a good idea. Let's waterboard them all
let's wait let's we should actually water Bordeaux Riley.
That will be cool.
It would be any because he won't give up the information. He
won't tell us where you were Beck is
your water board Bill O'Reilly he'll be like he's he's in
Mexico. He's in Mexico and he has a rubber ball in his mouth.
I'm telling he'll tell you anything he wants to
anything you want to hear. dialogue about the
ineffectiveness of this which has been well documented this is
not like oh you know, liberal mentality. It's been well
documented that's ineffective all it is a sadistic torture
just for the benefit of the sadists. And yeah, it probably
does scare a few people off and I'm sure some people who just
gonna spill the beans anyway, you know, but again, why don't
we take it to the municipal level that the New York City
police because it's not a big deal? Let them use that and then
why don't we go to the next step what's after waterboarding that
will you know, some electrodes to
electrodes to your testicles?
Absolutely. Yeah. To get people to talk and it doesn't kill
them.
Yeah, well, I think you're right John there there's i We're
always looking for an agenda behind these memes that are
being put out there and this is a big one because that's all you
hear about it's moved because of course we all got bored of the
and we had to move away from scanning us naked. Which you
remember I told you earlier in the week I said hey, if we if
you reverse that image I get
it actually i We have a blog posting of it and then the
blogger put disease doesn't may be a fake. I had to take that
off. Because it's not a fake I myself did what you suggested I
took a couple those images hit all you do is you hit inverse
rifle shot. And boom there's a picture of the person you can
clearly see her face you can see your nipples everything she's
naked and see
I think that's because you have a nipple ring in that one
picture I didn't see suddenly has a belly button piercing
Yeah, so you know and this is the big joke is like just show
people some some images that are clearly photoshopped. It's a
Photoshop filter to reverse the image. No big deal anyone can
take that image and you can put it into Photoshop reverse it and
then you see the person fully well naked and
see their face and did they use too good recognise them on the
street? Yeah.
The thing that is really bothering me about all this and
I went to the TSA website is And actually one of our listener
producers did some work on this as well, Alex? I'm sorry, not
Alex. I think it was. Was it bite law? Yeah. Bite law did
this whole he did a whole redline version of the rapid
scan website or was the rap a scam? Yeah, rapiscan
systems.com. And they've changed a whole bunch of things. And
their FAQ is about how these things work. And what's really
bothering me is the health concern regarding this
millimetre wave technology, because any let's face it any
you know, how long stories have we had to hear about cell phones
given your brain cancer, but now it's okay. Just just nothing to
see here. Just move right along through the through the scan
system. So I go to the TSA website, and I did notice
something interesting which Nikki's travelling tomorrow,
she's going to Los Angeles, and she's printed this out, and
she's taking it with her. Because I said, you know, there
are actual well reports, let's say there was some investigation
being done, about how these full body scanners may actually do
damage to your DNA. Have you read anything about this job?
No, I haven't. But there's a lot of interest. There's a there's a
there's a cataracts thing that can happen. That's been pretty
well documented because of soft tissue thing. And I haven't
there's been some some other cancerous mentions here. And
there they are looking into that. Obviously, it hasn't been
very fully studied.
Well, no. So government directives are now mandating
full body scanning. So that's Tetra hurts millimetre wave,
it's, I believe in the TETRA hertz spectrum. So you have mega
hertz gigahertz a kilohertz, megahertz, gigahertz Tetra
Hertz. I think it's terahertz. I'm sorry, terahertz. You are
right. So terahertz waves penetrate non conducting
material, like clothing, but they do deposit energy in the
skin. So now researchers at the Centre for nonlinear studies at
Los Alamos National Laboratory, have shown that terahertz
radiation may be able to do some serious damage to your DNA. That
when it encounters this stuff bouncing all over your body. I
mean, you know, it's, it's, I we just don't know, you know, I
think it's, we can't be too cavalier about Yeah, go ahead
and scan me. And so I go to the TSA website, and then they talk
about this National Standards Institute. Let me see which one
is it? And this was really bothersome because, because they
say, Oh, we're in full compliance with Edworthy, A and
C. So that's American. It's an American. Yeah, American
National Standards Institute. And it's like 43.7. And you
can't find this thing anywhere. You cannot find a copy of it,
you have to buy a copy. If you want to know what's in it. And,
and all the stuff that I can find about it is for the safety
of the operator of the system, not for the people who are being
scammed, but it's a dangerous for a TSA agent who is operating
this oh, well, you know what, we have to check this thing and
adore it. Oh, and make sure and you have to switch out people
often enough. Like there's nothing about the past
passenger. So anyway, in the show notes and no agenda
show.com. On the TSA website, there is a heading under this
imaging technology that says what are my options, and it says
right there in bold letters, these technology are optional
for all passengers optional. Passengers who do not wish to
utilise this screening receive an equal level of screening and
undergo a pat down procedure. So, um, I said to Mickey, I
said, you know, dude, I don't know if this is good or bad, you
know, for your health, but I don't think it is, you know,
what the what hurts what frequency or X rays out junk?
Well, X rays are totally different for one thing is to
get ionising radiation, the it's got nothing to do with it.
Okay. All right, has nothing to do with it. However, I just
don't know. So maybe you shouldn't do that. And why don't
you show him this letter and say, I'd like an optional
procedure. I don't I don't want to go through your thing.
Well, with the with the device I have at SFO 90% of time, you're
gonna get a pat down, even if you use a device. So just go for
the pat down because one thing Hey, you know, it's like a
massage. Think of it that way.
And I think that if you want to really stop this lunacy,
everyone should go for a pat down and clog up the lines and
screw up the system. That's the obvious civil disobedience that
we have to either there's two ways to do it either. We all go
to the airport naked, which would be kind of cool. Just you
know, just all go naked might want. Yeah, well, yeah. But if
we if we jump ahead of the game, then there'll be kind of freaked
out by it. So either do that or just everyone say excuse me, I
want to pat down by the way. I want a private one. Yeah,
there's signs all over the the waiting line there for the
checkpoint that say if you want a private screen Anything you
can request one everyone should just request one. Make those
make those those guys work, make them work for a living, none of
the scanning stuff. It's just it's I do not like it. And they
should you know, where's the questioning about this? There's
no questioning none. And the
media is done saying it, talking about it. I mean, the only thing
that came up is when somebody creatively came up with the
kiddie porn angle. The media picked up on that because it is
actually kind of an interesting angle. But the whole thing is
porn.
Yeah, and normally, I'm not against that.
Well, I mean, it's Yeah, but you like your girlfriend being you
know, with their arms are in some and the tractive poses
looks like a just pathetic. Yeah, thing is ridiculous. And
then what good is it do? I mean, that's, the thing is, what are
they? Are they fighting with the with the phoney person? They
found a gun? Like, you wouldn't have found that through the
metal detector? Yeah, no, that's that's not I mean, give me a
break on the gun.
Well, so for interesting Forbes magazine article that
essentially says, you know, it doesn't matter. Because at the
end of the day, if you want to hide, and this is only three
ounces, right? It was like, what was it? 8080 grammes or
something? of,
I think it was the 80 grammes, or it's like, three, four
ounces, it's not a lot. And you can hide that in many places
that even the backscatter won't see it. And so now, in Forbes,
they're talking about mind reading systems, too. Yeah. Now
this is from we see you technologies, Israeli based
company, I might add. And here it is, the logic is people can't
help reacting even if only slightly too familiar images
that suddenly appear in unfamiliar places. If you
scrolled through an airport and saw a picture of your mother,
you couldn't help a response. So this we see you systems is using
mine. I mean, this is essentially Minority Report.
Now, the whole The whole idea here is, you know, we can
actually, I think, I'm gonna find some audio of this thing of
this guy talking, but they're saying, you know, it's alright,
because this is the way to do it. You know, you need to know
what people are thinking. We can even stop a crime before it
happens, just as people are thinking of it. Well, there you
go. I mean, that's Minority Report. That's, that's 1984.
Yeah, it's pre crime. You know, so how long before they're
pounding on your door saying, oh, you know, we, we believe
that you're thinking about committing a crime. So you're
arrested. This is nuts. By the way, it's all Israeli firms who
run most of the security around the world. Yeah. And so there's
a lot of heat on on ICT s, who, I guess they run most of the the
security firms. So there's no there's a lot of heat on that. I
mean, the whole thing is just,
they push themselves into the forefront of being the big
experts. Yeah.
Yeah. But at the end of the day, you know, it's all it is
security theatre, there's no amount of body scans or, or even
brain scans, there's no amount that is actually going to deter
anyone from doing anything. And it's kind of like the emperor
has no clothes. You know, it's it's the it's the Wizard of Oz.
We're revealing this and people are catching on saying, wait a
minute. This is ridiculous. In fact, the TSA even has a new PSA
to talk about their progress. We are the
Transportation Security Administration. We're working
hard to ensure that you enjoy a secure flight. And while we
cannot apprehend every terrorist, you can count on us
to do what we are trained to do whenever there's a security
breach. overreact to tiny threats. When a man walked the
wrong way through a gate at Newark Airport. We close the
terminal for six hours when a passenger in Bakersfield
California packed honey in his luggage. We shut the whole
airport down. And when a toddler in New Orleans tried to take a
Christmas present on board we confiscated it sorry Jr. We're
not taking any chances. No threat is too big for us to
ignore. And no threat is too small for us to make your travel
experience as miserable as possible. overreact to small
threats ignore the big ones that's what we do and we do it
better than anyone
are quite sure put that together but that was pretty
well I like the honesty credits for them you know you can I can
do that.
No, no, it's not one of our someone sent it to me but just
produced it now to our producers send in stuff like this. This is
fluoride in my show. That's what our producer sending. So So just
in line with with all of this. Boy, John, you're you're
bringing a lot of noise with you today. machine. Sorry, sorry,
I'll put the gate on you a little bit higher there. Okay.
Much better. Thank you. So I was going to say, based upon our
last conversation where we had quite a back and forth about
heroin users, and if you can actually tell if someone's on
heroin or not, and boy, we got it, we got a lot of a lot of
very interesting comments, a lot of interesting emails. got was
this one from a producer works at a hospital. Here's Adam, as
producer of the show who works at a rehab detox psych hospital,
we see a lot of heroin addicts who are functioning in
professions and jobs that make you say, What the hell, but
eventually they end up dead or in rehab or fired at some point.
Take into account the LAX TSA agent, who was got off work was
running around the terminal shouting, I am God. I am in
control, I ruled the world. And then that they fired a couple of
these TSA agents because there was video showed up of them
doing drugs at some party after work. Now I understand, John, I
have to succumb to your point. You are right. People can
function normally on heroin, and most of them are TSA agents.
They're all on heroin. And but look at the look at the
behaviour. There was a video that I put it in the show notes.
It's Las Vegas, people who live in Las Vegas, and they're on
heroin. This guy goes in interviews them, and they're
acting just like TSA agents. I'm not kidding you. Just like TSA.
And it would make so much sense. What else do we need all that
heroin for? We need that heroin to supply the TSA agents
pay if you are a TSA agent, you don't want to be strung out on
heroin. Totally. Totally. It's a it's a crappy job. Yeah, it's
worse than
McDonald's. Yeah, I'm
surprised they don't ask if you want fries with that after they
check your ID.
Let me touch your crotch. Do you want fries with that second one
fries with a hot dog. So all right, another angle to all of
this, which of course is quite sad is that now the war on
terror has expanded into Yemen. And we don't even know exactly
what's going on, or how many troops are there CIA agents and
this whole lead right into your laundry list in a moment, John,
Alex did. Alex, our Russian producer who lives in the UK did
send me some information on the drilling techniques that we've
kind of overlooked. And you actually I went back and I
listened to the last show. And you actually mentioned this very
briefly, you said, you know, I don't know if they're trying to
drill into that Saudi oil next door. Well, lo and behold this
new technique, which I guess has been out for a little while
horizontal drilling, you can actually drill for oil and go
under buildings, roads, other surface obstructions, active
sites, where surface operations, precluding drilling equipment
and airports highways, you can you can go for miles and miles
under hills, you name it. So yeah, it would make total sense
that they've plop themselves down right there in Yemen, and a
drilling into the Saudi oil fields.
Why not? Yeah, that
sounds like a really good idea.
Like a good idea to me. That would mean well you gotta come
up with some phoney baloney reason to be there instead of a
base Yeah, which is what we're doing
so what are we actually learned from all of this?
Well on our show we've learned that waterboarding is effective
way to get information from people yeah
well, maybe that's how we should confirm p this is a good idea
that we should if we do Senate confirmation that's waterboard
these fuckers
thought they had anything going on with them we'd really know
Yeah, you could find out if they're gay.
Yeah, are you gay? No Here drink Timmy Geithner Are you stealing
money that's how we should I know what I'm all for it. I have
now become a proponent of waterboarding under the one
condition that we waterboard candidates, every candidate Yes.
All elected representatives and our president and the Supreme
Court judges waterboard them all it works, John we know it works.
It works. It's a Why go through hours and hours of testimony.
Why even bother just waterboard him? You it works? You'll get
the answers. I think I think this is an important discovery
and I'm going to make T shirts. waterboard your congressman, as
you want to know that.
We could sell a few of those. So what are the next topic? CIA
versus Obama? Yes,
which is? Wow, there's a lot going on in the CIA wars.
Well, first of all, let me read it or read from an article that
You know that CIA attack they did one article didn't get a lot
of plan I thought it was interesting. It was apparently
the Turks had found the wife of the bomber who killed the seven
CIA agents and there's no evidence in any of this that he
was a double agent or that he was even in the room with those
guys really. He was like, let me go and look at this the wife
bomber do acronym al Balawi send an interview so that the he
basically was the guy was just hated the US. He he drove in he
apparently he was irregular on the base. And he drove and he
didn't it wasn't a suicide bomber in the fact that he has
some wrapped around him he had a car full of explosives and he
parked it next to the building and then blew the car up to and
it's in the standard fashion were you Yeah,
this is a whole new version of the story. I thought it was just
strapped to his body no he had a whole car filled with this
stuff.
Yeah, look the whole building completely she's a federal law
enforcement official said the bomber entered the base by car
and detonated a powerful explosive just outside the bases
Jim were CIA operatives and others had gathered. It says
it's unclear where the explosives were hidden but it
was a significant blast and it sounded more like a car bomb.
And it said not to have that you know they couldn't tell you this
and that the other thing but the guy would Jordan intelligence
officials have said that they believe that devout 32 year old
doctor was persuaded to support us efforts against al Qaeda in
Afghanistan they said below he was recruited to help capture or
kill Amon ELLs are already a doctor from Egypt who has been
lost his right hand man according to counterterrorism is
official based on the Middle East blah blah blah. And Byron
Bay rock the woman his wives denied that her husband had been
recruited to work for the CIA. It was a guy where he was just
one of the locals or guy from
I don't understand I just My head hurts from all this I don't
get it anymore.
Not the base it's like it he goes in and out and in and out
all time they don't apparently check everybody all the time
they go in and out a lot. I don't no idea how we got on the
bass? Oh, he's apparently good. He just waved him through, I
guess. have no concept. Maybe had the stuff under the seats
and the there's maybe even like during the 911 era if you went
to Las Vegas. It was a big parking lot said they always
make you open your trunk. That'd be a guy. You know, some bruiser
out front of the place saying open your trunk open your trunk,
they look in there and they still don't see a shitload of
bombs. And they wave you through you know, they don't go do a
thorough inspection.
No. So you know, it's more it's more security theatre. And IT
security theory this guy had been was was a doctor working on
the base in and out and in and out and surely had a grudge
against you know, you just got sick of it. Going in and out in
and out he would have gone in and out and in and out so many
times that he would have known the process. This is a problem
that you have with people that are that are regulars. He would
have known everything that they do every time and he said well,
gee, every day, they come in here, I'm just this is by them.
I'm just supposing. He goes in they have they open the trunk
opens a trunk boom. And he notices that the all that's all
they do is they just want to look in the trunk and they know
who he is. And they see him day after day, week after week and
they go but they still look at the trunk says okay, well, I can
just load up the back seat with bombs, or a big bomb or wrap one
around me or whatever, and just load up the car but the trunk is
empty rolls in parks next to the gym and blows the gym up.
This is very this sounds very much like the same type of
security that happened over the weekend a man acting as a US
Secret Service agent. So not just CIA, but a Secret Service
agent breezed through security by flashing a badge and then
went up to the desk and said okay, I need to meet Secretary
Kathleen Sebelius. He flashed a fake badge and motion to the
side of his body as if he had concealed a weapon in his
waistband and they let him through. How crazy is that? At
the Fed? This is a federal building at you. Yeah, that's
your that's your security right there. And they did catch him
because someone heard his voice and this guy apparently had been
calling up a lot and harassing and saying he wanted to speak to
Sebelius. So we recognise from his voice which I find
interesting.
I find that sketchy. Yeah, but
well this is from from NBC so I get you so you can't believe
crab
but anyway, the story about the bombing there was you know it
was a mate good bombing because they'd killed some kids or some
other thing which seems like another bogus story right? This
is just crap. You know, even this thing you know, we don't
know any. I mean, all we know is that somebody finally got a hold
the guy's wife and she was Did you know about the whole thing
being you know bogus he was just a pissed off guy. He was a loose
cannon he was a guy who was getting annoyed by the what was
going on and so he decided to blow himself and his car up
angry
yeah the other reports that that I've been reading is that this
is actually the this is the fob the Forward Operating Base where
they control the drones from and that this was a main reason for
this particular operation to be targeted as because you know,
hey, you know, these are the people who are controlling it
Who are you know, controlling
the drone take off from it, but the drones are can at least
start I know are controlled out of Las Vegas. Really? Yeah,
there's a special was done. They have a whole bunch of these they
have a whole air force base of drone pilots that yeah, that
worked out of trailers and they you know, they had them all
down. They're flying these things.
Oh, my goodness. Hold on. Breaking news. Now confirmed
after what I mentioned to you three days ago, more proof that
we're on top of the news and ahead of the times, Jay Leno now
confirmed cancelled? Yeah. Did I tell you that on Thursday?
Thought I told you.
Oh, you don't want me to come over there, John and hit you in
the mouth. You really got to stop.
I had predicted Linda was it was going to be a flop from the
beginning. Yes, you did. But still, we had the news anyway.
No, we didn't get it. I mean, it would though the thing is, is
getting it's actually now it's getting even more interesting if
we're going to talk about this because they want to push him
back to the 1130 and then bump Conan into the into the death
our death panels slot, battle slot at 12, which is the Jimmy
Kimmel slot and you know by then you either watching Leonard
Letterman, are you doing something else, you know,
anyway, but you know, they're doing a poor job with Conan. And
so he's eaten crap. And then, of course, Leno promised to retire
and give Conan that spot, but Leto doesn't seem to really want
to retire and now it's becoming a ridiculous situation. And if
anybody thinks that Lenovo, I don't I can't believe for a
minute after Lenovo, pulled all his stunts with his and blamed
it on his manager to get Johnny Carson fired so he can get that
spot instead of Letterman who was really the one designated to
get it and bump Letterman out of the way. If anybody believes
that Leno working the 10 o'clock spot was a crazy idea. Buy the
suits at NBC and not some scheme of Leno's to make even more
money. I think you know, you might as well buy a bridge in
Brooklyn because I'm just not buying that now that they're you
know, they're pulled out all stops and they're actually got
some clips I should have brought I forgot to bring for today's
show where you know, Len was now sniping at the company. C stands
for never something never bring contract, nevers
understand what he's doing. Yeah. Well, it's alright.
Because no one's watching anyway. So no,
I watched it the other day. And again, you know, he has the
mediocre desks. And because of you know, nobody's gonna work.
That's fine, which is the thing that the least thing that's
talked about the least, is the fact that the show is
essentially been boycotted by all the famous actors and
actors.
I do want to get back to your CIA laundry list in a second.
But just to stay on NBC for one second. So I got a whole bunch
of emails over the weekend saying, Oh, you got to watch
this earth. 2100 This is coming on the History Channel. And
apparently I had missed it. I guess it was on ABC earlier in
the year. So now it's on the History Channel. Have you seen
this thing? This earth? 2100? No. So you've got to see it. Or
even heard of it? Oh, my goodness, Google it. Earth 2100.
So the idea is it follows a young girl Her name is Lucy. And
she's born in 2009. And then, you know, of course in 2015. And
it's part part cartoon animated part reality part. Well, a lot
of it's fake. It was done in 2009, which is kind of the
interesting thing about it. I thought it was brand new. And
you know, it shows all it's basically a climate change.
We're all going to die. And I mean, literally, I mean, it's
like one big scare movie that will freak you out. If you're if
you don't know what the hell is going on. You're like we're all
going to die. Well, what's interesting is throughout this
whole, this whole movie two hours, interspersed are
interviews with Van Johnson. Of course, this was before he was
canned. This was the green the green czar for Obama. John,
what's his name? Podesta no Panetta Well, who's the
transition guy for Obama?
kind of tried to do it could be Podesta no Podesta I think it
is and you know, there's a whole bunch of sketchy you know,
climatologists etc. And hit the end, the last 20 minutes is all
about. Well, of course, we all could live if we use energy
efficient light bulbs and windmills. I'm like, wait a
minute. Of course the History Channel is owned by General
Electric. Couldn't get any better. And my mouth is just a
gape. I'm like, I can't believe this propaganda that is being
bestowed upon people. We're and literally John, we're going to
die all of them all. Everyone will die it where it's all over.
And Monsanto will save us because we need crops that will
be drought resistant. It was unbelievable.
Yeah, that's the problem with these, these major corporations
owning media outlets. It's really, it's a situation that it
should be illegal.
And then the who's our who's our good buddy? from PBS, which I
have to say is a pretty damn good show. Bill Moyers Journal.
So much of your left wing nutcase. But yeah,
well, in this case, he have you seen the most recent one that
aired? That aired on Friday? No. So on it, he has two journalists
from Mother Jones, David Korn and Kevin drum. And, and this is
due to the most recent mother John Mother Jones article and
Mother Jones is an interesting publication. Could you classify
Mother Jones for me?
It's a kind of like the the modern version of a magazine
called ramparts that used to exist in the 60s that is a left
leaning. Invest investigative reporting journal that has a
strong agenda to our anti corporate agenda.
So the cover story is too big to jail, which is kind of funny.
Actually, I liked that as a mean. So when you watch this
interview, and Bill Bill Moyers is jumping right on the on the
bandwagon here. They're essentially exposing that every
every single representative who is on any or has been on any
type of Finance Committee, the top six all being Democrats,
they received millions and millions of dollars in campaign
donations, and then they go ahead and they, you know, they,
they don't do anything about the derivatives, they water it down,
they go into quite some depth as to exactly how they did it,
which is quite interesting. So you know, it's like, oh, well,
we can't have airlines, not being able to hedge on fuel. So
let's write a law that exempts them but of course, you know,
then what that exemption for airlines can be used by banks,
etc. And and how Democrats are having closed door meetings with
bankers, and then go go back and take seven $8 million in
campaign donations from the exact same bankers. They just in
the same city, by the way, in New York. And then two days
later actually take donations from the very same people. They
had closed room door meetings with. It's a fan and it's linked
in the show notes. It's it's online. It's a three parter.
It's really good. And
a lot of the most left leaning people out there are since
wrapped around them, you have the Tea Party, people, on the
one hand, pretty much preaching the same thing as the most left
wing of the pundits. And in that group, by the way, do not put
Rachel Maddow I do not put Keith Olbermann those guys are just
stooges for big corporations to work for GE. And but but you get
out there a little further where you get the Bill Moyers, who's
you know, an old progressive, and Hartman som guys like that.
It's just I just find it amusing. Because when you start
pushing over in that direction, you see, you hear the same
argument you hear from the business? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
From above. Ron Paul. Precisely.
Well, I say I think what's happened is
those who ends it whatever, meet all those days, that's pretty
amazing. Yeah, created a an impasse. I mean, it's almost as
though somebody said, What can we do that that will make sure
that these two groups never get together? Because if they ever
got together, we're toast. So what do we do? Well, let's
create some and make a big deal out of certain policies about
let's see, abortion rights, that's a good one because
they'll never agree on that. And let's try some other things. And
what else can we put in there? Into the you know, something
that religion you know, these guys on this one end are very
devout religionists, and the other ones are a bunch of
atheists and so they'll never get there. So let's make that a
big topic of conversation. Let's bring in the you know, George
Bush as a born again, and that'll that'll separate him for
decades. Right.
Well, I think there's a couple of interesting moves taking
place. And by the way, Bill Moyers just point out in that
entire interview, he says, I never thought I'd see the day
where Mother Jones agrees and comes to the same conclusions as
The Wall Street Journal. So in a way, that's exactly what you're
saying. And that's exactly what they don't want. And of course,
I think on one hand, you have, I guess you'd say, people on the
right, who are saying, you know, look, this, this wealth
distribution, it's not a good idea, it's destined to fail. And
then people on the left, who were all for it are saying, hey,
wait a minute, we don't actually have any money to do this with.
So I think that everyone's eyes are kind of opening and going,
Oh, hold on a second. This. We can't actually, we can't
actually make this work.
Yeah, well, yeah, no money. And then it's all taken by the big
corporations. And by the way, here's a question a rhetorical
question. I want to ask people out there. And there was all you
know, ever said there were the problem began when the
corporation was giving this was given the status of an
individual. A corporation is a virtual virtual entity. Yes. But
it's a person it has. It has constitutional rights it has How
come a corporation can't be tried for
murder for or waterboarded for that reason?
Well, I wouldn't do much good that waterboarding of a building
but but there's no reason you can't try a corporate if you
don't think that the same rights and responsibilities as a
citizen, a corporation per se, why can't the corporation be
tried for murder? And if found guilty, the entire corporation
including all its employees would be executed?
Live on TV? Now, of course, you know,
right? Just saying, you know, why don't they you know, like
why are they more risky you know, the corporation's got all
these you know, it's because supposed to be a citizen.
They're crappy citizen. And they're breaking the law left
and right, where they why are they just being fined? Why they
imprisoned? I mean, rare once in a while a CEO goes to jail. But
that surety for securities fraud is not for something a
corporation? Did they have a corporation that's, that's
basically defrauding the public or it's a scam or whatever it
is, why don't do it all the executives of the company get
thrown in the slammer, all of them, the entire board of
directors. So even though even twice, I'm telling you things be
straightened out in this country, they overnight? Yeah.
Well, it's also not entirely true because public
corporations, even though they have the same rights as an
individual as an entity, they're the only entity allowed to bring
money across the border without registering that which, of
course, is how the drug money actually bailed out a lot of a
lot of our public firms on Wall Street,
that, you know, that exception for corporations should be an
exception for everybody. I don't see why you wouldn't have as a
makeup. I'm wandering around the pocket full of money,
because you could be financing terrorism. That's why. Well, on
that note, the company formerly known as Black formerly known as
Blackwater xe, xe services, is now running for a pentagon
contract potentially worth $1 billion dollars and Afghanistan,
a part of the contract John, providing Aviation Services.
I wonder what that might be?
Yeah. Do you think it's flying drugs out of Afghanistan via
think could it be they've been caught with all kinds of other
stuff that they were some when they were still Blackwater? They
had contraband and illegal weapons in that they were
selling on the side in dog food? Wasn't it? That wasn't dog food
that we're carrying, or some crap like that?
Yeah, I don't remember. Yeah. And this is the Neverending
Story, it's almost you know, it's like it's an eye roll or
whenever their name comes up, it's always some money grab
schedule, you know, they headed that thing is just the genius.
Meanwhile, I do believe that there's some big changes going
on. I think that Timmy Geithner got a virtual law two days
ahead. Little Timmy Geithner, who was our Secretary of the
Treasury. Don't know if you've been following it. But you know,
the information just can't be kept down, apparently. But
although I think this, this was leaked to the press to basically
shoot him virtually. So here's here's how it worked. When AIG
was about to go under, and AIG, of course, was insuring all of
these derivatives, all of these swaps all of these derivatives
based upon mortgages, just to put it in credit, Bucha credit
default swaps. So they were insuring that but they weren't
showing them naked. So they had nothing to back it up. And this
was trillions and trillions of dollars. And I do believe that
if AIG had failed, then the banking system would probably
have come down overnight. I don't know if that would have
been really bad or not, but that's probably what should have
happened. It didn't and why didn't it because the Federal
Reserve through their New York branch, which at the time was
being run by Little Timmy Geithner. He paid he paid
everybody off, which of course, went straight to Goldman Sachs
and essays to say Societe Generale I'll, in all these
other banks, he paid him 100 cents on the dollar with money
that was printed by the Fed, which, of course, is our money,
which we're on the hook for. And what he did was he told the
banks Shut up. Don't tell anybody that we're doing this.
And that, of course, is the very reason why all these banks
remember that John, they had to take this money. They brought
them all to Washington, and you've got to take this bailout
money because they had to make them all complicit in the scam.
And now it's coming out because they've got emails where the New
York Fed was actually telling a telling the banks take this
money and shut up about it, and we'll fix it. We'll fix it later
in a bailout, which they did. And now, of course, oh,
Secretary Geithner played no role in these decisions.
Treasury spokeswoman said, Oh, no, no, he didn't. He was not a
part of that. He sent no emails. And now it's all coming out. So
I think that these emails were leaked on purpose to get him out
because he's, he's clearly a nincompoop. And he's no good and
he's not he and he looks weak. On television when he's sitting
here when he stammering through waterboard him, let's get let's
get rid of it. Yeah, it works. Let's waterboard Timmy Geithner
I see no reason why we shouldn't I really I'm out of this job.
I'm latching on to this. I think this is a very good idea. I
think we should waterboard to potential terrorists. I think we
should waterboard civilians I think we should start though
with right there on television on C span let's waterboard Timmy
Geithner let's get n n n. Greenspan and Paulson let's
waterboard them. It just saves so much time. We know what we're
harmless. It's harmless. We know it works. And is a time saver. I
think I think we need to get hop to it. waterboard them.
While we're on the Nothing to see here. The Real News. I was I
ran into this article about this after I've heard about this guy
you've heard of Roman Abramovich right the rich rich Russian guy
owns the world's biggest yacht the Eclipse Yes, huge, wasn't
he? Chelsea yields
a Chelsea Yes, exactly. He owns a soccer team.
And he says you want a couple championship drawers where
you're losing money on them but he's got a billion so he doesn't
care and he's that these Russians know how to spend
money. So here's the deal. You know we never get invited I
don't get invited anything you probably get invited to things
once in a while but we didn't we missed out on the the 2010 party
that he threw. Oh no. Yeah Lindsay Lohan people were there
he was it was a it was this wasn't a big spender Roman
orchestrate a $5 million New Year's Eve party with his
girlfriend doshas. Cova that is $90 million beach side compound,
where more than 250 guests not including us. Were entertained
by Beyonce Prince and Gwen Stefani each performer paid up
to $500,000 to sing a song cool and the pre New Year's party
which was done by
pre New Year's party what is that
before just before his party by he was given by the art dealer
very good Goshen and Microsoft co founder Paul Allen on Paul's
414 foot yacht,
the yacht boys all hanging out together you realise it's the
eighth largest it was the biggest ones for like 10 minutes
and then the next thing you know I'm reading about this character
or this Russian billionaire and it's easy to interesting guy but
listen to some of the stuffy I mean, like I said the Russia is
not to spend money even Bill Gates wouldn't do this stuff. He
owns a private Boeing 767 Paul Allen only has 50 a week Yes, is
known as the bandit due to its cockpit paint details usually at
Stansted Airport UK, he also owns three Eurocopter
helicopters of Aruba. Well, how many helicopters does one person
need? We need
one for each foot.
Exactly. And then once to me to not one but two made back 62
limousines are customised to be booked bomb and bulletproof and
they were afforded costs 1 million pounds $1.2 million or
1.6 million US dollars. He also owns a Ferrari F x x a $2.2
million racetrack only car of which only 30. rebuilt. He owns
a Bugatti they run a Maserati MC corsia Ferrari 360 and a
modified Porsche Carrera GT. Now this is a guy who's I have to
say this is a rich guy who is living it up.
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty obvious.
So I wouldn't be invited to the party. I think you know, of
course I wouldn't have gone
by you. What are you talking about? Of course we would have
gone I send over send over the bandit up in the band that will
be They're
really fluid into the bandit Landy awareness of what we jump
in and
Second Prince was there. You said this is highly
disappointing to me. Yeah. Friends who also I have to
abandon the
three that he's got listed here in the gossip is Beyonce, Prince
and Gwen Stefani. Each performer paid upwards of $500,000. Wow.
Wow. Hey, so we talked about the $5 a month we want to get from
people. Yeah, so five bucks or $500,000 for a four minute song.
And here we are doing effectively four hours a week
for five bucks. Yeah. We are totally in the wrong business.
People send us 1000s and 1000s of dollars is still basically a
public service compared to what the? You know, Beyonce got paid
at that one gig where she got to sing her songs and then hobnob
with a bunch of characters.
Who else was there? Do we have any idea who was a lot
of there's not a lot of information about who was at the
party, but I am under the impression that it wasn't any
lightweights.
And this was in the United Kingdom. Well,
let's see the party.
And by the way, I have no I have nothing against people spending
their money on whatever they want to spend it on. I would
really do not care.
I don't care either. Is it St.
Barts? Oh, St. Barts? Yeah. Nice.
Nice. I guess Ron Paul on took his octopus boat. parked it.
I went up to Bodega Bay. Awesome.
I stayed home and fried noodles. Yeah.
And basted your meat? All right. So oh, man, we're over. We're
over our time. Once again, I think we should talk about some
of the donations we received. You can tell that we've really
been doing some work. We've been we have been delving into this.
We are trying to get all the angles. I think so far we've
come up with a real gem we've come up with is we can start a
mean, we can start a whole new production company, a whole new
show. called Water waterboard this. waterboard this. And I
think that we need to enhance the meme of waterboarding works.
And we need to apply it to many different situations. And hey,
you if you if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to be
afraid of. That's that's what they've always told me about
security. Nothing left nothing to hide, nothing to be afraid
of.
Yeah, so get waterboarded naked. And all
of this all of the topics we discussed, from the heroin to
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And by the way, I say it every week, you do a great job with
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They're gonna go back and they're gonna find this stuff
needs your holy mackerel, these guys. They were all over this
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And there's and I do want to add one little thing. Some people
have pointed out to me, there's this website instapaper.com.
Have you? Are you familiar with John instapaper.com is very
cool. I haven't signed up for it yet. But I have seen it
integrated in a number of different apps. So if you're at
a website, and you then click or maybe even it's a bookmarklet,
and you click Instapaper, and you have an account, it
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just wanted to say, I'm what I'm going to look into is if I can
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there'll be retained and so yeah, permanent when you go back
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curious as to the reason why so many commercials from the Ad
Council are appearing on the TV networks lately. It seems that
it's to Smokey the Bear commercials or to Doctor
commercials about asking questions when you visit the
doctor also the Boy Scouts helping the old lady across the
zipline. They're always in pairs of two. Could it be that the
Obama administration is paying the media for their support of
Obama by buying up all the empty ad slots with his ad council
commercials? No, Mitch, let me tell you what's going on. All of
the advertising money is all the bulk of it every year is spent
in the fourth quarter. And that of course is for the Christmas
shopping experience. And in January, the advertising is
very, very light. Of course. What is something going on what
it was, Oh, yes, the Great Depression. Money is very, very
tight, right? Right now that always hits advertising. And
these are what are known as PSAs public service announcements. So
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if they all of a sudden don't can't fill those spots, they
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produced. It's not live broadcast. And so they have to
run these stupid ads.
And remember that the programming is only there to
fill up the space between the commercials. It's not actually
to teach you anything.
Yeah, well, there's there's never any value to the programme
in general, it's been a good, a good, a good small format,
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Yes. Well, thanks. You and Adam. And I can say something about
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thought about that on the last show. So the avatar itself is
not mind control. It is the 3d technology that is being used.
And of course, this is all timed out perfectly. You're the first
message you receive is to tell everyone how incredibly cool
avatar is. But there was a demonstration about 15 years ago
in Hollywood, I was not there. I know people who were and I've
been in the, in the theatre at ICM, where this where this
demonstration took place, and was supposed to be of some new,
fantastic 3d television technology 15 years ago. And you
can Google this and you'll see many reports of it. In fact,
I'll put I'll put a link in the show notes. And so a guy comes
out on stage. And this is an old fashioned Movie Theatre, where
you still actually have a stage and the guy comes out and he
starts talking, and he's walking around all over the stage, you
know, from left to right, and the the audience has big
Hollywood dignitaries, it's got huge producers, Spielberg was
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about this, and all of a sudden, he disappears. And then he shows
up in the front row. And he was actually the demonstration it
was a complete hologram, no glasses necessary. The guy was
in the theatre, everyone believed he was standing there,
and that he was a real guy setting up the actual 3d
presentation. This is the technology that is already
available. So I think this whole avatar thing is a red herring,
you've got all of these 3d televisions that are coming out,
which is purely meant to get kids playing games to submit to
mind control.
There's one interesting aspect is a 3d Especially with the
blinking glasses, which is you can send a message to just one
of the eyeballs which just goes into one hemisphere of the brain
that is different than the other hemisphere of the brain and one
you know is more illogical. So that's, you know, I'm not gonna
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man. So he ruined it for everybody.
We talked about whether for a second John Well, let me see
there's
a couple of things here since we were talking on real news for a
minute wanted to there's a couple
that I was you know as I was searching around for the action
but the Russian guy because I trying to figure out you know
where we're how many degrees of separation we have with him
showing getting paid for his party next year. I decided
there's too many you're never gonna get invited to his party.
We don't know any.
Does he know Kevin Bacon?
You know, I don't have Kevin Bacon was probably at the party,
but he was probably being eaten. So what we don't know.
Which, by the way is my solution for if you watched Earth 2100
I'm sure it's repeating on on the History Channel. You know,
one thing that's kind of interesting there is because we
eat so much meat and all The Chinese and Japanese want to be
just like Mike. And so they're all eating meat and we don't
have enough farmland on Earth to provide enough Monsanto grown
corn to grow enough meat for everybody to eat. I think the
only solution is to overpopulation at the same time
as we just have to start eating the Chinese.
Awesome idea. By the way, have
you have you noticed that there's lots of phrases for what
do you want? I want Chinese food What do you want? What Japanese
food what you want? I want a Mexican. But there's no no one
says I want to have American because we're not tasty.
I never thought of it that way. Canadian but I'm not in Canada,
but I can assure you that the Canadians are going berserk over
this story. Canadian police said Friday that was wrong. It was
wrong for one of their officers to whisk Halle Berry. Her model
boyfriend and baby through an airport security at Montreal is
true. The Trudeau airport, a constable at the airport decided
to let the couple pass a law passed by a long line after a
spur of the moment request on Monday by Gabriel Aubry, a
Quebec model who was Barry's boyfriend and the father of her
22 month old
daughter because they could have had that Petn in the kids
diapers.
So everybody's upset about this union say And
meanwhile, Joan Rivers was actually detained and not let
onto a flight because of her questionable passport.
Yeah, she didn't look like the same Joan Rivers back which of
course is which
of course is true. Which is true. I've been on a flight with
her and dude, I've been on a virgin flight. She's quite
scary. And it's just too much work done. And I've worked with
her and she's a very nice lady. I mean, they're very
professional. I've done a couple TV shows where they're back in
the day. And great to work with she knows exactly what she's
doing it man her face is like, it's like a Mr. Potatohead
project gone wrong. You know, it's really Whoa. So yeah, she
doesn't look like her passport, but still Yeah, it's it's your
right.
So I have a question. Can you play the clip? Let's see what's
in it. Can you played the unruly passenger clip? Yes.
Would you like it now? Yeah.
So several passengers told us a man sitting toward the back of
the plane who appeared to be drunk started yelling
when he wouldn't calm down. He just kept saying that the flight
attendant disrespecting him because I think somebody's
somebody was sitting next to him. So you down about five
bottles of wine in less than an hour.
Passenger say the man then went to the lavatory. Or
you're sitting in the back of the plane. And all of a sudden,
he just this man was going in out of the bathroom and he was
making commotion and causing disruption,
the pilot decided to make an emergency landing at the closest
airport, the Colorado Springs Municipal Airport and called law
enforcement for help. to f 16 fighters escorted the plane to a
safe landing.
What are F 16? Do a fall at the ground in the middle of
Colorado? Which of course is we if anyone so long enough knows
is the centre of the new government. Yes. But why? Excuse
me, but
it would you please clear your throat properly.
Everyone feel congested today. But anyway, the point is, is
that what is the f 16 gonna do shoot the plane down to protect
the passengers from getting blown up?
Well, the same thing happened with a flight to Hawaii. I'm
gonna look this up for a second. The passenger wasn't allowed to
put his his carry on bag under the seat in front of him in the
exit row which of course, you know that that is a matter of
life and death. And that's why you're not allowed to do that.
So he got into a little a conversation with a flight
attendant. It was on Hawaiian Airlines. And then he actually
flipped the flight attendant off, which is not normally a
good idea because as you know they are god along with the TSA.
So then that's anyway, the guy comes down there flying, and
then they hand out the passenger evaluation forms. And so the guy
fills in the form with the following. And this is the
common card which he then put into an envelope, right a sealed
envelope. And he says oh I couldn't put my my carry on bag
underneath the seat in front of me. I thought I was going to die
were so high up I thought to myself I hope we don't crash and
burn or land in the ocean living through it only to be eaten by
sharks. Or worse yet end up on some place like Gilligan's
Island stranded worse eaten by a tribe of hit so the guy is just
going off right he's just really pissed off. So the flight
attendant opens his apparently not so confidential comment card
shows it to the pilot. He turns the plane around and they're
escorted by F sixteens back to Portland. Unbelievable.
Meanwhile, when when when we haven't heard from two Northwest
pilots for 45 minutes. There's no scramble there's no f 16
There's nothing in the air But
16 is going to do shoot the plane down to protect it.
Yes, of course.
It's make no logical sense. No, of
course it makes sense. This is a security theatre. John, what do
you mean? You know what? Get
excited. Wait, do you know what it costs a mint fuel to fly an F
16.
Yeah, it does. I wonder if you get a bill for that later on?
They probably well, that would at least make some sense.
We wait, what's the real news? Yeah, go ahead.
More Real News. This one here's the most baffling story I've
heard all week play Word, words of the year.
Words, technologies all the talk these days. Literally, it's the
focus of this year's survey on the number one word of the
decade. Some of the runners up include nine.
Let me guess, the word of the decade.
Yeah, you want to guess Go ahead. You won't get it. Okay,
well, then I won't get
11 blog green texts war on terror and Wi Fi but the winner
is Google the number one word of 2009 was tweet. And it was
creative ward of 2009 was Dracula's sneeze as in sneezing
into your elbow.
Have you ever heard that word in your life?
Never heard Dracula sneeze
and entire family my kids. We've everyone everyone I know. Nobody
has ever heard Dracula sneeze. So I figured somebody slipped it
into this as a hoax.
What what did this error on? What? What station?
What do you mean? Yes. I believe. Yeah, it is. Cool. But
anyway, you are dragging because you when you sneeze into your
elbow, it's like you're holding the cape like Dracula. You know,
my son finally deconstructed where that word came from? All
right. Yeah.
It's like you have a cape in front of you. Yeah, yeah.
But it's bogus.
I've never heard this before. My
life was like, if any, if any listeners before, like a couple
of days ago have ever heard this word, I want an email because I
think it's just somebody dreamed it up and threw it into just in
the fact of the news, people reading this stuff. Don't say I
never heard of this word. How did this become the word? They
don't even question these things.
I'm not keeping my eye on the chat room. They're about 50
seconds behind. They'll see if they've ever heard of it. But
I've never heard of it. And it makes no sense. And I just shows
you what kind of crap is out there. Some real news, John, if
you don't mind. But like real, real, real news that is kind of
it's underreported at this point. It has been on the front
page of the Wall Street Journal and the only newspaper I read
The Financial Times, which is becoming harder and harder for
me. Of course, the labour force shrunk. We lost 85,000 jobs in
December. more jobs, more jobs are what is not being reported
is the number of bombs increased. And that actually
increased by 661,000. People.
Yeah, 600. We have over a half a million bums
extra bones. We just call them as we see. And these are people
who have decided there is no job and are just dropping out who
knows what actually becomes of them. They usually wind up
taking my $5 donations on the street. So 661,000 bombs, and
the the length of unemployment is an average of 29.1 weeks.
That is was that seven months to live. It is the most on record.
Since records big were kept in 1948. And of course now Nancy
Pelosi is talking about once again, extending the
unemployment benefits with another $80 billion taken from
the from the What does she want to take it from she want to take
it from the Recovery Fund.
Which brings me to another interesting point what is what
is Pelosi is interest in people being unemployed and actually
promoting it. I mean, this is actually the method of that. And
here's what I want to mention. Schwarzenegger the governor in
California I know people overseas don't really care about
the sort of detailed discussion by Schwarzenegger get California
is broke its bankrupt state. And Schwarzenegger believes and
rightly so that we do California has given an awful lot of money
to federal income tax and we also give a lot to the state.
But this you know that you give the government 100% of the money
that they get obviously you give X amount of money and they give
you a percentage back in terms of highway funds or whatever.
Some states get like a disproportionate amount more
than They contribute to like Alabama, for example, some of
the southern states, California gets a disproportionate being
the seventh largest economy in the world supposedly get a
disproportionate amount of money less we don't get any money from
the government. And now so Schwarzenegger is asking for a
bailout for California, we just give us our share buyback, so we
can, you know, try to prop this broke state up, Pelosi is
against it, Feinstein is against it, and boxer is against it.
Now, we're talking about these, you know, these these people in
Congress who are always given earmarks to their people, and
they're stealing money from the general fund so their local
people can get some advantage other states can get extra
money. What is wrong with the our California representatives
that don't that would just say, Fuck California? What is wrong
with these people?
I don't know. But the governor asked for $7 billion in federal
funds to keep the state afloat. Like, I guess,
Pelosi and the rest of them and Feinstein a bunch of the two
senators say Nah, don't do it. We don't want to give California
any money at all.
I don't know what's up with that, John, I haven't thought
that deeply. You seem to be very perturbed about it here. Well, I
would like to mention a couple of other things, to take it out
of Giman nation West and take it over to get more nation Europe,
where? Well, the first thing of course, is the weather, which is
wreaking havoc in Europe, according to the London free
press, Paris, so snow settling near France's Mediterranean
shores. German parents battling to buy sleds, British horse
races called off over too much ice and British companies being
put on rations for their use of gas. I mean, you couldn't think
that this whole thing was good for what actually? Is there any
way for you to look, John, at the futures prices? of the
talking about gas mainly? Before this cold snap hit? Was there
anyone already thinking this was going to happen? Was there some
big action in the futures? Do you have a way to look at that
from a financial perspective? There's ways but I can't do it
right now. Would you mind looking into that for the next
show? Because you know, of course, you know, my my theory
that the beautiful spiral over Norway was actually Harper
punching a hole in our exosphere and our thermosphere and
creating this, this incredible cold front. It is there skating
on the canals in Amsterdam. This hasn't happened. I can't
remember this happening. It's been so long. This hasn't
happened since the early 70s. I think early 70s. Last time, I
can remember that happening. So so this huge, and the BBC, of
course, you know, when people are saying, hey, well, you know,
how do you? How do you justify global warming? with what's
happening right now with these record cold temperatures? The
local weather douche for the BBC had this to say about it, he has
a very good analogy, and it makes so much sense. John, are
you ready? Put on your 3d glasses mind control come asking
for a very quick answer for a huge question. A lot of people
confused about the whole global warming thing. And here we are
in it's freezing cold. And you know what, what is? Is there an
easy answer to that one?
Well, a brute like this, if Manchester United lose three
matches on the trot. Does it mean to say it's the end of
Manchester United? Or do you look at the whole season and go?
Well, actually, they lost three matches on the trot. But the
season overall, they did great. So you have to stand back and
look at the big picture. If you just have a look at a little
tiny burst of cold, it doesn't mean anything and in climate.
It's not a season, it's yours. You need to look at 30 years
worth of weather to get eat, you have to stand back and go, Well,
where does that fit in? And these things happen from time to
time.
It's like a football match. You know, just because we lose a
couple doesn't mean that we won't win the climate change
battle in the end.
Yeah, well, they gotta mix it. They're having another run at it
and Mexico shortly. And they're gonna have the same geeks,
they're, you know, another one of these meetings off site
meetings in some faraway place. Yeah. Well, we'll make sure it's
not too far for us. But it's not what I would say it convenient.
They
already kind of agreed to agree at the at the Copenhagen Summit.
So I think what's going to happen now there's not going to
be any and the more I think about it, the more it makes
sense that they set it up this way. So they signed an agreement
that they will agree on the next thing they want to agree upon.
So it's gonna be no coverage will be no protests. No one's
going to be walking around. It's not going to be trumped up but
everyone's going to come together. They'll agree on some
shit and then in the hub, they'll have another step in
their Erector Set. Yep. And then Google comes out. And they
they're now an energy company. Surely you knew this, John?
Yeah, I've been following this. And so watching your how your
Google is just trying to they're pushing it. They're pushing
their luck here with some of these things.
Well, so if I understand it correctly, they now can
essentially become the Enron of energy, if they like if they
want to, all under the guise of yes, we, we made a pledge to
reach carbon neutrality. And I don't see how they're going to
do that. I mean, good luck with your windmills, keeping all that
stuff running. But so they want to be able to buy and sell
energy wholesale. So they can, as they assert, so they can buy
green energy. But they don't rule out that they wouldn't be
trading energy at some point in the future. And then to hear
Eric Schmidt say, Well, essentially, you know, the smart
grid is is our business. Now, we deal with a grid, we deal with a
grid where you can connect any device. And it's peered and it's
sent around the world. And it's exactly what we do. So we should
be in that business. I find that's something we need to keep
an eye on, I would say.
Yeah. So I got one of the Google phones, the new Nexus.
It's not really the Google phone, but it's a it's an
HTC phone, right? I wanted, I would tell people unless until
the skins come out for it, I would tell people and then I
realised that when we had Krista bone on the cranky geek show, he
mentioned that he's he's on his third one. I didn't think too
much about that. And what does
that what does that mean? Exactly? He broke two of them.
How do they break?
You can't hold on to them. They're slippery that well,
they're extremely slippery. And, and so I mean, I almost broke
this one already. But I mean, it just like it falls out of your
hands. And you have to hold it in an awkward way because the
screen is so huge, and it goes right to the edge. And it
doesn't have dual touch. So when you grab the thing, you're
actually touching the street, the screen 90% of the time, so
when you push it on the buttons, nothing's going on. Because
you're already short. You're, you're shorting it out. Yeah, so
you have to hold it in some awkward fashion that is very
unsafe for the device to actually use it. And then you'd
still slips out of your head. I put some gaffers tape on to keep
it from slipping. And the gaffers did is the surface is so
slippery, that gaffers tape. Tape sticks, like anything,
you can fix a broken leg with gaffer tape. Yeah. So Right.
That's
when a skin comes out
for you. When you mean like the rubber enclosures you don't mean
comes out? Or if some shorts won't be flopping all over the
place, which is they're obviously not available yet. But
at least I haven't seen any, then it'll be okay. But I think
until then I would, I would wait. Because you're gonna break
it. I mean, I don't know how long I've had it for over a few
days. And I think it's at any moment that I can break. The
battery lasts a little longer than the original GE phone. I
was running the thing at Full Tilt, do you know online,
everything for about three and a half hours it finally gave up.
But that was you know, Wi Fi run in GPS running Bluetooth on
everything.
So I have, I'm making the subheading for no agenda, iPhone
apps, which you can find the show notes at no agenda show.com
I believe there's an Android app, although I'm not sure if
someone has any apps. And if there's a Blackberry app, even
better, please email me that. And on top. And on top of that,
and you pointed this out on an email thread, John, there's a
lot of these new devices. There's a Sony like alarm clock,
that's, that's come out. And they are including radio feeds.
And as we're now sprucing up the no agenda stream, radio stream,
please start petitioning these companies to put our stream into
their devices. That will be a big help for all of us to get
more listeners and to achieve our goals for this year.
Yes, please do that. And also, if you go on some radio talk
show you do anything, tried to plug us get a copy of it, and we
will make you a public relations associate for that show. Yes,
that week, so you'll get
a PR credit,
a PR credit. If you can get on like Howard Stern or any
of these. I would like to be mainstream. I'd like to be
television, the local
PBS station, I don't care what it is. Exactly. Get on it. Plug
us give us a plug and maybe some people who will decide to listen
in. To wrap things up. I do have a list of interesting list of
things that men can do to maintain a dynasty Women
listeners are going to appreciate and attain an
erection no to maintain their general stereotype. Oh, in kind
of pigs. Okay, now I want to discuss how this came about. I
was researching that Russian guy and everyone to this very
interesting website. It's a kind of a girlie magazine called
Betty confidential.com. And they were running a story on what men
they've scanned the men's magazines and firewood men are
complaining about which has gotten me onto this jag and she
they found a list for example, most recently they're
complaining about women use too many cell phone too often they
can't make up their mind. They don't fight fair. They get too
girly. And the number five one which got me into the whole
thing was that we like to leave the house. And the woman wrote
it she says we're not totally sure why guys are so annoying,
but several dudes insist that it is. With quotes from these guys.
Women like to do stuff like let's go dancing. Let's eat out
let's leave the house. Day from Los Angeles wines. She uses the
word wines by the way when it's maybe just status should be no
no, no,
I think it's really whining. I know what that sounds like.
Men generally love to things women and couches. Anyway, so
ended up talking about one quote from this one guy says there's
no romantic comedy worth paying full price admission for at the
movie theatre. He tells Betty movie theatres and made
specifically to see stuff explode. i By the way, agreed
with that. So I link to a site that said here's the things you
can do if you're a man to just annoy women to know in and I
thought I should repeat this. And I know that our female
producers probably won't
think it's funny. Okay, so now why would you actually want to
annoy women?
I think it's amusing.
Okay, it can be entertaining. Okay, let me try him out here
locally while you mentioned them John, let's let's go with your
ways a for men to see macho and annoy women.
top nine ways to be cheap. Forget your wallet when you go
on a date and always under tip. Okay. Don't hold the door for
her. Hey, women's lip did away with chivalry and I always
hold the door for you. I'm not trying to read your I'm just I
am a great guy
lead gobs of toothpaste or hair in her sink.
No that's not that's not a good one
colour in the middle. Yes funny because women always squeezed
the middle of the tube and they
you know, do your women do that to women. They always squeezed
the middle of the tube they can't do ever
seen a woman that doesn't do that they do and just to annoy
us
that's one of the yes and they can't put the top on properly.
They can't put the top on the squeezing the middle it's just
always a plug at the end because the tops not on right and they
always leave the toilet seat down. Yeah,
exactly. And I My rule is you have to put the toilet seat down
and close the lid because then it's equal. All right, I agree.
The lid the lid should be closed if everyone's job is to make
sure the lid is closed and we're equal and then that no one gets
any advantage on the on the toilet seat right?
Colour in the middle of the night. Don't apologise the next
day okay, be late. She can stand to wait a little. Yeah, no, I
think women are always late. It gets almost impossible to be
late.
I have the exception to the rule. Man. My woman is always
here we go. Spend a lot of time with your acts are mentioned
several times how she looks like a cross between Cameron Diaz and
Uma Thurman.
Let me try that. Hey, honey, you look a lot like a cross between
your ex Oh, oh no, I'm sorry.
Don't call when you say you. Why does she take you so literally
anyway? This is dumb. Blow off her birthday or Valentine's Day
because holidays are just a scam created by the greeting card
companies.
Valentine's Valentine's Day right? That's bad.
Spend every evening watching sports on TV weekends to don't
give up your golf tee time for any reason, even if she needs a
date for a friend's wedding. And finally, when she says I'm
getting fat, respond with why don't you join my gym.
All right, in my ever going ongoing collection. And I think
we'll be able to release a CD maybe by year's end. In the
wall. Of course it all started with Nancy Pelosi
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
So we have what do we have now? Seven or eight of these? John? I
think we've got we showed last week we are on Thursday. We had
Governor Schwarzenegger and now from the Netherlands. We have a
new one. Yes, we have a new one. The word for jobs in Dutch is
Vedic. ALL RIGHT HERE IT COMES muddy. It's hammer
on it. We are kind of life. This very francophones cabinets
Varrick radically ethic sorcerer
you go Vedic Vedic Vedic
Now there's a difference. There's a code here because some
people say jobs, jobs, jobs. And then some people say jobs, jobs,
jobs. And jobs are usually the three jobs or four jobs. And I
think there's a, we're starting to see a trend of who uses the
three jobs and who uses the four was this a three or four job or
that was a three man hearing? I
mean, it's Vivek vertically. You're right.
But she said Vedic before that. So it was actually for
me that to this day to be altogether Schwarzenegger was at
three, Pilates was a four.
Right? Well, it has to be some difference in the rank
that Well, I think it may be the political affiliation.
John, I just have a couple of things that just want to get out
because otherwise I'm gonna forget them and I won't do them
next week. Russia has now banned us poultry over our use of
chlorine in our poultry. I was not aware that we use chlorine.
We spray the Burj sometimes with a light chlorine bath because
they had they're so contaminated with salmonella. So this is a
good idea. You can rinse it off.
Yeah. Can you just use water? Oh, no way. That's this. Of
course, we can't just use water that has too much fluoride this
far away. Is fluoride in module. Okay, so so they're right then
or is that just a political move to
make it a political thing? Okay.
President Obama enacted his first veto. No way. Yes, he did.
But it was a really weird one. And this was over the military
spending bill. And I'm very confused by it, John, because
there's a couple of different types of vetoes, you have a
pocket veto. And then you have a regular veto veto. And he used
that pocket veto is where you just sit, put it in a drawer and
you never take action.
Well, he released a memorandum of what do you call it? A
memorandum of disapproval. And and it was very confusing. So
yeah, of disapproval. So the enactment of HR 3326. Department
of Defence Appropriations Act, which was signed into law on
December 19, has rendered the enactment of H J resolution 64,
which is the continuing Appropriations Act unnecessary.
Accordingly, I am withholding my approval from the bill. The
pocket veto case 279 Us 655 from 1929. To leave no doubt that the
bill is being vetoed as unnecessary legislation. In
addition to withholding my signature I am returning h j
resolution 64 to the Clerk of the House of Representatives,
along with this memorandum of disapproval. I'm not quite sure
what that means.
I don't know. I never heard of a memorandum of disapproval.
So there was an article on the Huffington Post because I
Googled around to see if I could if anyone was writing about and
that confused me even more. Robert J. Spitzer writes an open
letter to the President. I along with many other Americans
applaud your willingness to break with bad practices of your
predecessors, especially those of your immediate predecessor.
Just last week, for example, your executive order and
accompanying memorandum to agency has directed the agencies
overhaul their documents, classification procedures, will
restore sanity, and appropriate sunlight to the mindless over
classification of government documents on December 13,
whoever you mimicked an action of your predecessor that
pointlessly reopened a constitutional can of worms, by
the manner in which you exercise your very first veto of our of
your presidency. The bill you vetoed a continuing
appropriations bill was rendered unnecessary because of the
enactment of a defence appropriations bill. And then he
goes on this whole thing that it's like he's like, confusing,
like he used the pocket veto. But but the regular veto at the
same time, and it's like a constitutional trick somehow.
And, John, I really need your help on this. I'd like to
have you gotten you're gonna have to call a professor. I have
no idea what this is all about.
Oh, then I clearly have the wrong person on the show. Yeah.
I have no idea what what is all about shit, the whole thing
seems weird. Well, I couldn't find any analysis anywhere.
Well, nothing I could understand nothing I could understand. No.
And I just like to know. So does that mean that that the money
can be spent? Because this has all of the stuff that's in here.
This is about the
sounds as if they this bill supersede some other bill where
they're already spending money. And when by vetoing this bill,
the other bills still in play, and that's where all the money's
being spent via
Yeah, but in these bills is all the extension of the Patriot
Act.
There's probably something in the bill that he had to just
probably one minor point in the bill that he had to kill the
bill to get rid of that. Because you can't do line item vetoes. I
mean, they just don't let you do that. So he couldn't and then
then you're also exposing yourself when you do line item
vetoes is the reason they don't want to do that. Because you're
going to cross out of one item, and it's going to be like, Why
is he caught crossing that? And then they're gonna overanalyze
it. So that, you know, so now it's like, kill the whole bill,
Senate back to the house telling me rewriting what they're going
to do is bring back a bill that's going to have everything
but because there's probably some secret information in that
memo about what he didn't like about the bill that's specific
to one issue within the bill. So I don't know. I have no idea. I
didn't know anything about this. Do you care? No, I don't think
it's interesting.
I think it's highly interesting. This is when someone does them
the end of the year, while we're all getting drunk, and it's like
something like this. I think that's interesting. That's the
kind of stuff you got to watch out for. There's always weird
crap happening at the very end of the year when no one's
looking.
Yeah, well, there's a lot of things that are happening all
the time when no one's looking. In fact, of my favourite thing
this week was on Hannity had it. He had a clip. I wish I dubbed
it because I was on the radio show. He had a clip of every
Obama reference to running the healthcare debate on C span for
the final bill.
I actually have that I have that clip. You want to hear it? Yeah,
it goes
on and on and on. And then of course, at the end of the day,
Obama says, No, you don't want to run it on C span, when it
actually has to, you know, when you were finally wrapping up
this deal?
Yeah, it's, uh, this is all from when he was a candidate Obama.
And it wasn't just like, a little off handed thing. We're
like, oh, yeah, you know, we will put that on. There was
like, it was like a huge, huge promise. Give me a second here.
It's like, because I actually have the video of it. You know,
handed. He's not he's not doing any work. It's other people on
the internet. There's other people on the internet who are
doing all of this work.
Total is just a total basically a just a talking head.
Out? Sorry. while that's loading up, I don't know, for some
reason I don't need to
play we just, you know, I think most of our listeners have
probably heard it. But it's like a lot of times, I mean, this is
like once or twice or an offhanded remark. It was, you
know, pounding says when I'm President, I'm gonna do this.
And I guarantee it's like the getting out of our rack thing,
which I still think is one of our best, and we should run it
more often. You know, I can take it to the bank. When I present,
the first thing I'm gonna do is close Gitmo and get out of a
rack, you can take it to the bank, why don't we come we're
still in Iraq. Let's get out of Iraq.
Yeah, I got it on YouTube and place from here, this will work
and not negotiating behind closed doors, but bringing all
parties together. And broadcasting those negotiations
on C span so that the American people can see what the choices
are. Because part of what we have to do is enlist the
American people in this process, I would put my plan forward, and
I would welcome input and save your my goals, reduce costs,
increased quality, coverage for everybody. If you have better
ideas, please present them. But these negotiations will be on C
span. And so the public will be part of the conversation. And
we'll see the choices that are being made. I respect what the
Clintons tried to do in 1993. And moving health reform
forward. But they made one really big mistake. And that is
they took all their people and all their experts into a room
and then they they closed the door, we will work on this
process publicly. It'll be on C span, it will be streaming over
the left, we'll have the negotiations televised on C
span, so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of
their constituents, and who has made who are making arguments on
behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies. But
here's the thing, we're going to do all these negotiations on C
span. So the American people will be able to watch these
negotiations, drug and insurance companies will have a seat at
the table, they just won't be able to buy every single chair.
And we will have a public process for forming this plan.
It'll be televised on C span, I can't guarantee it will be
exciting. So not everybody is going to be watching Oh, we
would. But it will be transparent and accountable to
the American people for the private insurance companies who
are still going to have a lot of power in Washington, and are
still going to try to block from taking place. And so that's why
I've said for example that I want the negotiations taking
place on C span. So I'll put forward my plan. But what I'll
say is, look, if you got better ideas, I'm happy to listen to
them. But all this will be done on C span in front of the
public. And one of my jobs as the President will be to guide
this process so that it's an honest process.
You go on C span you Unbelievable. So the good news
is, and I had a lot of conversations over the weekend
with Mickey about this. And I do want to end on a positive note.
I really do. I even though it pains me, the Tea Party, I think
there's something really good going on there. People who
listen to programmes like this one who are aware of what's
happening, who are passing that news on who can you can go to
the shownotes. No agenda show.com. And you can send these
links to your friends, people who are still kind of slumbering
along playing the 3d Xbox, getting mind controlled. And and
you can jolt them awake. Because when you see this in mains, this
This to me was great. And I don't think many people care the
C span, what the hell is it, you know, they're not gonna give a
crap. But there's a lot of the stuff that is in mainstream
media reporting, that the people say hi, I didn't know that. So
it doesn't get reported, okay? Just just not always on the
front page. And we can really start to change things. And it's
apparent to me in the United States, Europe is going to be a
little bit more complicated because the they've moved a
little bit further there with the United States of Europe and
the European Parliament. Although I do see some, you
know, there's some great voices cropping up there. But in the
United States, we essentially, I have great hope we have to kick
everybody out. And what what the government knows is that if the
people stand up and say, sorry, this is just not going to go any
further. There's way too many people that you know, there's no
military, no police force, no TSA, no one who can stop us. If
we just say we're tired of it, we're not going to take it
anymore. And all you have to do is just get involved in a couple
of elections and kick everybody out. It's not going to be that
hard. And I have great hope, particularly for the United
States. I think that the United States citizens there saveable.
So, things are happening and I'm happy for it and and I'm glad to
see that it's moving in a good direction.
Well, I'm glad you're still up tempo upbeat,
are you not? No, of
course not. Things aren't moving in a good direction. Sucks.
What's happening in Australia? Those guys are just screwed.
Yeah, but there's there's people making news.
Last cause up there. I mean, they tried but you know, they're
actually probably better off than we are, in some ways. One
of the other ways you know, they put the clamps down on them at
the drop of a hat and run by the Queen for God's sake.
Well, John, I think that
this regard I'm the buzzkill
Yes, you are. That's okay. You harsh my mellow, but only a
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