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Hello, everybody once again, it
is time for the programme that

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has no commercials. No jingles,
no music. Well, certainly no

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agenda coming to you from the
curry manor in the United

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Kingdom. I'm Adam curry.

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And I'm out here in sunny
California. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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John.

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Good afternoon. Let me launch
right into it. I finally fixed

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it so that you can hear audio
when I play it back. Yeah,

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I know. You know how long Yeah,
how long I've worked on this.

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You apparently worked on it all
day yesterday, or otherwise, you

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would have done the show?

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Yeah. Not just Yes, I've been
I've been thinking about this

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for. It's been like, it's been
at least three weeks. And what I

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couldn't figure out was, what I
wanted to do is I want to be

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able to send you a mix minus
signal. And so I couldn't send

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my voice fine. And I could send
music over. But if I wanted to

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send something from my handy
little cart rack, it was driving

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me nuts. Because you know, you
do this on the Mac. But if you

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ever done this, you can do
Virtual Audio Routing. Have you

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ever heard of this?

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You're doing this on the Mac?
Yeah, you can do? No, this isn't

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gonna do me any good?

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Yes, it will. Because you're
gonna you're gonna get a laptop,

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eventually a new one that will
be a Mac, you know, it will?

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No, it won't. Because I my and
I'll say this again. As much as

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I think the Mac's a great
machine. I like using laptops

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that are two pounds. Absolutely
the smallest that lightest you

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can get it with a full size
screen and a big keyboard. And

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that's a Toshiba, and that's the
R series. And now the new one

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there are 500 is like 2.2 pounds
total. And it's got a DVD player

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in it.

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Yeah, but what if you're trying
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when I travel, I don't with a
laptop? I'm not going to go to a

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Mac. They're too big and heavy.
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honestly, how often do you do
tech five on the road versus at

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home?

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Actually, I rarely do it. I've
done it a couple of times. But I

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prefer to do evergreen shows
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Right? Okay, so my point
exactly. So it makes a lot of

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sense. To set you up for once
and for all with a fan to me,

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this is the beauty I have been
searching for. For it's it's

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been five years now. Has it been
fight? Yeah. 2000 Oh, 2004. When

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I started doing this stuff, I've
been looking for the all in one

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solution where you can do
everything right on one

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computer. And the Mac finally is
there, you have this thing

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called aggregate devices, where
you can stack on multiple in and

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output devices, virtual or real,
you can stack them into one

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because most programmes can only
talk to, you know, talk to one

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device at a time. So now I can
finally do all of that complex

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routing that is really needed to
put together a kick ass studio.

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And anyway, to make a long story
short, what I couldn't what was

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what was screwing me up as I was
trying to route the audio from

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Skype into the, into the virtual
mixer through one of these

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virtual interfaces. And whenever
I did it, you know, couldn't do

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because you have one coming in
and one going back. And the

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output signal, of course, has
all the stuff I want you to be

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able to hear. And every single
time I made the connection, it

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would you know, it would create
a loop and then it would it

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would just feed back I couldn't
figure it out until I finally

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discovered Of course, after
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out that I was I was treating
Skype as if it had a stereo

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signal coming out. So I was
using two channels, whereas it

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only has one so effectively by
placing two connections between

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Skype and my mixer. I was
creating a loop just by making

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those two connections that make
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Yeah, doesn't mean but let me
let's let's back up a couple of

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seconds. One. You know, one, you
probably could have asked for

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help from the audience and you
would have gotten it like the

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next day so the wasting three or
four weeks working this out. No,

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no, no, no, no, no, I have been
on this quest and the audience

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has been involved the guy who's
come the closest ever it's

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up on your other show. Hold on
one more time. I don't believe

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for a second that there's not a
PC user out there that listens

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to this show or whenever other
shows that can't do the same

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thing on PC more effectively.

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Wow, thrown down the gauntlet
man. I love it. You know what

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actually a bet you you're right,
uh, this year that I don't know

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if it can be done more
effectively. But I do know that

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Ableton Live which is the
programme I'm using also runs on

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Windows. So I guess if someone
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Virtual Audio Routing, then they
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course you need it and then
excuse me, then we'll set up a

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nice a nice windows version for
you. How does that sound?

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I've been drinking beer again in
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I apologise.

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There was a story going around.
We had no we blogged her and I

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was something I was thinking I
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me there's there's this farting
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schools where the boys are into
noisy public flatulence as a gay

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EEG. And they just do it
constantly, I guess in class,

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and it's becoming something of a
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Oh, really? Yeah. And this is a
new story. This is, yeah, it's

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a new story. So there was some,
you know, they don't do schools,

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you know, they don't have
corporal punishment or anything

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anymore. So they don't know what
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the boys can say, look, it's a
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nothing I can do about it if I
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what they do, of course, is that
they amplify it by you know, I

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guess, you know, you force it to
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know, even fart the alphabet,
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a problem. So, so this is a
nationwide problem, or is this.

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I think it's localised now, but
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I've been trying to rile up the
Brits, on the daily source code,

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trying to open their eyes to the
Snoop Dog nation that we all

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live in here. Now that they
found out that 800 different

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organisations can order a wire
or internet tap on anyone,

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including any senior manager at
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Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Oh, this
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about this? No, tell me. Oh. So
what happened was the minister

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of Parliament, I forget what his
name was. He was having a

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conversation with one of his
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in jail. So it's kind of
unimportant what the

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conversation was about, but
other ministers of Parliament

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had him wiretapped or
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conversation. And so the at
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story about ministers of
Parliament, needing to have the

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right to be able to speak to
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in complete confidentiality,
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information, like duh, you know,
just look around the look of the

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4 million cameras in this
country. It turns out that

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there's 800 different
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Kingdom who can ask for what
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that's either phone
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apparently websites you visit,
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work if they have some kind of
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And, and the level of, as I just
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of seniority of someone who can
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basically a senior manager,
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crazy. I bet you this, this
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and other intercepts. John, are
you still there? Hello. Ah,

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there he goes. Okay, what point
did you do? Did you miss Oh,

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that was the you know, you have
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the show, because as soon as you
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disconnected. I swear to God, it
was exactly. Well, I don't know

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how they do it unless you have
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Well, I'm still I'm still
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finished my story unaware that
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you call back

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where to echelon. You said,
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do that. Unless they have some
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was it.

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Right. So I'll just recap
briefly, as it turns out,

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there's 800 organisations and
his list has now been published,

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which includes, you know,
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Department of Agriculture, who
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the council, the people who, who
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local council, they, you know,
as senior manager can request an

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intercept.

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Wow, that's cool.

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It's probably nuts. Anyway, to
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flatulence, you know, so then I
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like, No, you guys really should
protest. And by the way, I want

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to protest too, because it's
pretty messed up. It turns out

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protesting ain't that easy in
the United Kingdom. Did you know

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that?

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Well, you can send a nasty
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you can do that. But if you
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streets, and there's this, I
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a an excellent documentary
called taking liberties, which

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is a I think it's a channel for
maybe even a BBC documentary

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that shows you exactly what
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basically, you try to protest it
just ain't gonna happen. You

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just gonna get picked up,
arrested, harassed and removed

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from the streets.

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Can't you go to Hyde Park and do
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You can do it. I think you could
do well, that's not a protest,

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you can go to Speaker's Corner.
But, in fact, it is illegal to

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protest within one kilometre of
Parliament. You may not protest

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at all within one kilometre

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of Parliament. Hmm, nine are we
getting these ideas? Yep, they

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exactly so so I'm like, well,
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some other kinds of civil
disobedience who may be flash

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mobs. You know, that always
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up in the newspapers, but maybe
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Now was wondering how you're
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go. It took me a while. A while
Long Road.

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Let's test this thing out. John,
hold on a second. Let's just

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test the audio out. Okay. Sure.
All right, here we go.

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Hey, Adam and John. I was just
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you mentioned that you're trying
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audition for texture. Guild, but
some people probably won't take

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it as a joke. And it'll probably
get forwarded over to Natalie

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del Conte that she's made Jesus
stripper and or a hooker. And I

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don't think you really want that
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mean, I'm sure there's something
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by the way, you can if you want
to interrupt something, you can

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just yell loudly at any point in
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I think that guy needs to just
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he do this at three in the
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Whenever he was listening to our
show, I never had any

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intention of hiring hookers for
anything. Well, at least for the

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show. Anyway, the point is, you
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the rim shot. I don't have one.
Anyway, okay, well, we're gonna

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get one for you. And you can use
it judiciously. But strippers I

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thought would be a good idea for
a hostess. Seems to me. Okay, it

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was Did you just report back to
the whole idea was nixed by the

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CEO.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It I think
it had a shelf life of about

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three nanoseconds?

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No, it was longer than that. It
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Exactly. Have you seen Natalie's
new show? I know you have

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actually, I know you saw at
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surprised.

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Honestly, surprises are pretty
much the same show she was doing

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before.

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Yeah, except with shitty
lighting and, and a virtual ugly

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set in the background. And I
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little more than that, honestly.
And, and also, I don't like the

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way it's edited or put together.
But that's just some technical

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But yeah, I would just do
actually didn't surprise me too

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much. I think it's okay. So
anyway, back to the some of

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these new stories that aren't
relating to tech, since you've

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got off, you know, we're not
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necessarily. Right. I was just
looking at my own blog. And one

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of the guys blogged the fact
that they're trying to close

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down the red light district and
they may be on their way. And in

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Amsterdam. What's that

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all about? Yeah, it's true. No,
it's this is what happens. You

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know, there's a couple things
going on. It's, you know,

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there's a Christian Democrat,
Christian Democratic majority

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in, in the in the government.
Lot, you know, this is, of

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course, also bringing, quote the
country up to EU standards. And

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the same is happening with the
coffee shops where you

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infamously can go standards.

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I mean, I thought that, for
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instituting these kinds of red
light districts in countries

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like Germany to compete for what
they call the sex tourist. In

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Europe. So how's this? I mean,
that sounds like a counter trend

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to me.

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No, I think there's a difference
between some new regulation and

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I can't speak about Europe, but
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Netherlands, where they made
brothels legal, but the actual

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red light district where girls
are standing in Windows, they

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want to get rid of that. So the
the concept of having a brothel

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and I think even escort services
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they now I think those are
actually probably still allowed,

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but the real in the window with
your wares, I think that's

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what's being taken away, which,
of course, is exactly sorry.

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Well, as someone who's visited
Amsterdam more than a few times,

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and by the way, I've not
actually done anything with

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anybody in Amsterdam to be for
people out there who, who want

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to know, not like anyone cares.
But I just want to say that as a

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tourist, I have walked around
with a bunch of guys, and

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whatever, it's through that
area, and there's a number

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there's actually two or three,
you know, little alleys and

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stuff. There's hundreds of these
girls in his different layers of

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quality, if you want to be
objective about it. And I think

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it's kind of amusing. And I
think it's kind of an

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interesting little thing people
do they walk around, I don't see

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that many much business going
on. I suppose they're not there

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at the right time. But the fact
is, it's, it adds a kind of a

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complex charm to the city that
it seems it's been going on

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apparently since the 15th
century. It seems weird to me

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that all of a sudden, during
this era, when the Muslims are

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the ones behind wanting to shut
stuff like this down that, that

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the Netherlands being irked by
the murder of Van Gaal. The

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filmmaker would essentially go
along with the programme which

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is what it looks like they're
done. doing? Well,

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so I'll respond by saying,
You're absolutely right. This

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completely ruins what used to be
a really good vibe, just in

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that, in that core centre of
Amsterdam, but over the past

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decade and really has gotten it,
it's gone down to even past 15

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years probably, that used to be
all Dutch girls, which of course

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was a part of the appeal. And
now I do not think you will find

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one single Dutch born girl in
the red light district. They're

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all either from, you know, East
Bloc countries basically. So you

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know, so that kind of cosy
hanging out the window type vibe

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is gone. And of course, it's
become a centre for, for lots of

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hard drug trafficking and usage.
In general, because it's an old

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part of the city, it's, you
know, it's difficult to police

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because of all kinds of
alleyways and nooks and

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crannies, so I understand where
they're coming from. And I don't

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think that if you talk to the
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there's probably not a lot of
love loss because it just wasn't

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fun to go there anyway. You
know, since just some some

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cultural immigration, like
changes have taken place.

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Well, that's one way of putting
it. So one time I was in Holland

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and I, as I was leaving to go to
the ER, I forget where I was

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taking a cab. I was taking a cab
somewhere, which doesn't make a

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lot of sense. Not I think about
it, I guess was to the airport.

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Not because I would normally
take the train to the airport.

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No, I didn't do that. But
anyway, I was taking his cabinet

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I was talking to that somehow it
came up in the conversation that

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exists cabbie who a lot of
cabbies are talkative said, you

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know that red light district is
a big phoney for the locals

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anyway, nobody goes there,
right? He says they go to and he

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pointed out some areas in some
other part of town. It's like

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where the locals go. And it's
not even anywhere near there.

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And then I watched some special
did that it sounds as though the

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town has two or three, at least
separate little districts. And

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this one, that's the tourist
trap, which is entertaining is

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the one that nobody uses.

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Yeah. Oh, there's also been some
other problems in that area with

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the famous castle Roscoe. I'm
sure you saw it when you were

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there. If so, have you ever
heard of that concert? Also?

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Yeah, I've heard of it. But you
know, that you mentioned I don't

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recall. I don't know what it is.

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Well, it's quite famous. For two
reasons. One, it is the probably

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the the original. Live sex show

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club. All right. Yeah, right.

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Really theatre, I should call it
because you know, you walk in

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and you can have a little drink
in the foyer. Yay. And then

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there's finally maybe 100 seats,
and then you watch some kind of

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live show on stage.

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Those kinds of shows in San
Francisco, right. So

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this is now see about about 10
years ago, they became very

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famous to be the first ones to
be actually streaming, people

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having sex live for a fee. And
all of the all of the porn

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sites, all the porn servers in
the, in the mid 90s, were all

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pretty much located in
Amsterdam, if not operated by

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Cassata also. So they were
really on the inside as a story,

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when, when we were taking our
previous company public, we did

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what is called a road show. So
this was 1996. And the road show

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means you go around in our case
to not just to different

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investors in the United States,
but then you also do a European

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roadshow, and you basically want
everyone to sign up and say,

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Yeah, you know, I'll buy into
20% That's what it is. 20% 20%

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you want everyone to take 20%?
So of course, then you become

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oversubscribed. That's kind of
the the way that works. And so

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we had Switzerland, the United
Kingdom, we had a number of

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places on the map, but we
decided to start in Holland

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because I knew that there were a
couple of investors who, you

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know, collectively, they might
actually take, you know, 15 or

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20%. So we did you know, one of
those days and our in our

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investors, of course, were the
underwriters were along with us

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on the road for this road show.
And we're in Amsterdam. So these

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are all like real Wall Street
banker types and like, Hey, man,

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what are you gonna do? We gotta
go to the red light district. We

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gotta go. Sorry. Okay. And then
we're walking down the red light

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district and the guy from Casa
Roscoe, who of course was just

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doing this enough internet
stuff. The basically the guy

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who's outside who's supposed to
pull people in? He starts

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yelling at me. Hey, Adam curry.
Hey, man.

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Yeah. You're on the internet.
We're on the internet. Okay, so

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yeah, come on, in,

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you know, I'll come to you guys
come on in for free. So, you

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know, of course, you know, like
with our, with our underwriters

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and you know, it's real macho
type dealing, okay. So we go in,

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and the show starts and we're
sitting pretty, pretty close up

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to the front. And of course,
it's audience participation

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time, and the girl comes over to
me. And I'm like, oh, man, I am

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so not into this. And you know,
then of course, these guys are

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hooting and hollering Okay, so I
get up on stage. Well, wait

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a minute before you go on. Can
you also mention the fact that

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during this era, especially in
96, you are extremely famous?

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Yeah, in amps. You're down.
Yeah. But people that don't

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realise it. I mean, we're not
talking about a little famous.

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Yeah, yeah. Very famous. Okay,
anyway, continue.

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But that didn't really didn't
matter. I don't think most of

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the people who were in there
knew me except for the

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guy or girl might have.

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I don't know, it's possible.
It's very possible. So you know,

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and so then, you know, she does
kind of funny stuff, she grabs

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you in the crotch, and then you
know, and then at a certain

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point, you know, it's really
meant to humiliate the guy she

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picks out of the audience,
right. So a certain point, she

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lays down on her back, and then
she grabs my head. And then she

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brings me down to my knees. And,
of course, I was just standing

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in front of her previously and
she brings her head down towards

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her crotch. And at the same
time, a fucking guy in a monkey

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suit with a strap on dildo walks
out behind me and starts boning

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me from the front. So there was
a good evening had by all

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in the casseroles that on tape.

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No pictures, unfortunately.

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But more naked are no no, no,
no, no, no, I was I was fully

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clothed, much done with that
thing on

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Yeah, well, but it was quite a
surprise, because, you know, I'm

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like, oh, yeah, you know, she's
bringing my head down between

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her crotch and then basically
kneeling with my butt in the

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air. And then this guy dressed
in a monkey suit comes out from

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stage left with a big strap on
dildo. So, you know, it was?

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I would say that the whole act
is designed to humiliate the

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patron. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
What did they expect to

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accomplish with this kind of
thought hilarity ensued

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my friend.

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Hey, anything for a good laugh?
Man, I tell you. So anyway, so I

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just find that that is quite
interesting that they would have

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such a cultural change. But I
guess if you're, you're, you're

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right, because I noticed that
this most of the, the most of

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the girls were, you know, they
weren't even that interesting to

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be honest about it.

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No, they really are. And there's
these, there's a show called

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Amsterdam nights or something
that rancher runs somewhere in

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the States, but basically runs
on Sky late at night, and they

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have these documentaries about
that very area and about these,

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these shows, and it's all pretty
pathetic. When you really, when

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you look behind the scenes of
what's happening, it's pretty

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sad.

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So, you know, on Thursday, went
to Las Vegas and to give a

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speech to the convention of all
things, Orthodox Madonna's

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Yeah, I heard you talking about
that on tech five.

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So, in the process, I was only
going to be there for one night

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and then give the speech by the
way, I have a new speech for

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anyone out there who's booking
speeches, I've been telling the

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speeches on her. Tell us about
it twice so far.

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And they will give me give me a
summary what he taught you.

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Essentially, what

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I do is I talk about, you know,
it's, it's, it's got various

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titles, but it's like, marketing
in the age of the internet. And

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it talks about how it and it
gives people exact details on

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how to like, you know, do vanity
searches, how to check out your

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competition, how you know, how
to set up, you know, various

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kinds of websites, blogs,
whatever what their value is,

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then it talks about things like
our you know, if you're running

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a business, you're an
orthodontist, are you listed on

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somebody yelped you, and you
know what Yelp is and how does

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it work and all that kind of
thing. And then how to use

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Craigslist. It's it's a lot of,
like, intense information and

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how to how to think everything

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interacts do you do this with?
With PowerPoint slides? You just

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stand? Oh, yeah,

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yeah, no, you use PowerPoint,
you have to use PowerPoint

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slides. And in today's day and
age, if you don't use PowerPoint

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slides, you can't keep an
audience anymore. It's, it's

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weird,

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really. You just use pretty.

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I've been giving speeches for
decades and and I've gone

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through everything from using
multimedia, to just stand alone

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where you're up there lecturing,
and I don't read speeches, of

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course, I think that's lame. As
Bush, I always get the biggest

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kick out of watching somebody go
up on a podium and start reading

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a speech. It's, I want you to
send me the damn thing on email.

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Yeah, you know if that's what
you're going to do.

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So do your slides consists of
just pictures, or do you have

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words up there as well?

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It depends. There are some words
some just sometimes it just

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shows sites and then I discussed
them. But anyway, the whole

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thing is, what's weird, or what
I discovered is that the vast

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majority of people out there who
actually work for a living they

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don't know about half of this
stuff. I mean, they don't know

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what Twitter is. They don't know
what Yelp is a very few of them

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know about Craigslist, unless
you're like in the San Francisco

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Bay Area. They're in some high
tech zone. Generally speaking,

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this stuff is still got low
penetration.

436
00:24:31,710 --> 00:24:34,740
Sounds like it's time for a new
book, John. Yeah, I

437
00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:36,330
know that we may do a book
around it. How

438
00:24:36,330 --> 00:24:39,660
about high penetration marketing
initiatives?

439
00:24:41,670 --> 00:24:45,660
H M i

440
00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:50,400
h PMI baby. This has an HDMI
factor of nine and a half.

441
00:24:50,910 --> 00:24:54,090
We could come up with HP EMI
factor I liked that HP EMI

442
00:24:54,210 --> 00:24:56,760
anyway so that so what I wanted
to actually talk about those not

443
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,260
brag about this great new
speech, but to So I was there on

444
00:25:01,260 --> 00:25:07,020
Thursday. So I decided to go to
Joel rubra. Sean's at Lea to

445
00:25:07,020 --> 00:25:11,460
have the tasting menu. Okay, I
sat right next to it. Right,

446
00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:15,120
right. Yeah, is it you know,
it's 130 bucks plus whatever

447
00:25:15,150 --> 00:25:18,240
they can nick it for the wine
can't keep the whole thing came

448
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,730
to a way. It's very expensive.
And I'm sick. And I, you know,

449
00:25:23,730 --> 00:25:27,570
there was like around the room
is beautiful. And it's in the

450
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,150
MGM and it's just a really nice
little restaurant and little,

451
00:25:30,150 --> 00:25:33,570
it's a big restaurants. And but
I just thought that, you know, I

452
00:25:33,570 --> 00:25:35,520
was thinking about and I noticed
I was sitting next to a guy who

453
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,260
was a maitre d ad at the
Tribune, which is a restaurant

454
00:25:40,260 --> 00:25:43,440
in Calgary, and you know, and I
noticed that he was actually

455
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,290
drinking the bottled water. But
you know, a lot of people were,

456
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,080
you know, you know, this water
thing is like a big deal. Nobody

457
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,050
wants it. You know, the idea now
is don't drink bottled water in

458
00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:52,770
a restaurant, we

459
00:25:52,770 --> 00:25:55,860
actually have a, we actually
have a, an audio comment about

460
00:25:55,860 --> 00:25:57,810
that remind me, I'll play it for
you have it queued up when

461
00:25:57,810 --> 00:25:59,190
you're ready. Okay.

462
00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:02,969
But what was interesting to me,
I've come to I've kind of got to

463
00:26:02,969 --> 00:26:05,399
the conclude because I didn't
really feel satisfied with this

464
00:26:05,399 --> 00:26:08,399
meal, it was, you know, all the
little bitty plays, which I

465
00:26:08,429 --> 00:26:11,639
normally would go for, I mean,
you get a real better deal. If

466
00:26:11,639 --> 00:26:13,739
you if people are interested in
this kind of eating, you go to

467
00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:17,459
San Sebastian, Spain, and you
can, you know, astonishing I

468
00:26:17,459 --> 00:26:22,139
mean, 1/4 the price and twice
the quality. But anyway, the I

469
00:26:22,139 --> 00:26:25,439
just thought the whole thing was
an unrewarding experience and I,

470
00:26:25,649 --> 00:26:28,139
and I had yelped it before I
went there and looked at the

471
00:26:28,139 --> 00:26:31,019
various comments, and there was
all the everyone all the best

472
00:26:31,019 --> 00:26:33,449
meal I've ever had in my life.
And then some people with a lot

473
00:26:33,449 --> 00:26:35,729
of experience, were really
downplaying and saying, you

474
00:26:35,729 --> 00:26:39,959
know, this was very
disappointing. And, of course, I

475
00:26:39,959 --> 00:26:42,149
would I did that and falling
into that category. I don't

476
00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:44,849
think it was that. I don't think
it was worth it.

477
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,460
What do you what do you
attribute this disappointment

478
00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:47,790
to?

479
00:26:48,660 --> 00:26:51,990
Well, the fact that the guy who,
you know, the Joe ruber Shawn's

480
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:55,440
not there he comes in once every
couple months. I mean, this is

481
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,050
like, I'm reminded most of these
Vegas restaurants are that way.

482
00:26:58,050 --> 00:27:01,380
I mean, Bradley Ogden opened a
place there, and he claimed he's

483
00:27:01,380 --> 00:27:03,390
gonna move to Vegas, he's gonna
stay there. I've called that

484
00:27:03,390 --> 00:27:06,060
restaurant every time I go to
Vegas, because I know Bradley,

485
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:11,310
and he's never there. And none
of these guys are, I mean, Uber

486
00:27:11,310 --> 00:27:13,830
Keller from San Francisco,
Florida, Lee seems to be in

487
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:14,190
Vegas.

488
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,820
But he seems to be in Vegas more
than he's in San Francisco.

489
00:27:18,209 --> 00:27:20,759
He seems to be in Vegas a lot.
But he wasn't there either. And

490
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:23,129
he wasn't at the last couple
times, I went there. So these

491
00:27:23,129 --> 00:27:25,739
restaurants are very reminiscent
of the kind of French

492
00:27:25,739 --> 00:27:28,709
restaurants you'd find in the
Middle East, in many of the big

493
00:27:28,709 --> 00:27:32,909
cities, like and if you go to
Dubai, for example. They have

494
00:27:32,909 --> 00:27:35,579
all these French restaurants and
are exact copies of the places

495
00:27:35,579 --> 00:27:39,479
in Paris, and a guest they fly
these chefs in once in a while

496
00:27:39,479 --> 00:27:42,179
to make sure that everyone's
doing everything right. But for

497
00:27:42,179 --> 00:27:45,659
the most part, they're not
there. And that was this this

498
00:27:45,659 --> 00:27:48,389
quality when you're dealing with
super high end quality, the chef

499
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:51,179
has to be there or the quality
just deteriorates because

500
00:27:51,449 --> 00:27:53,279
there's no taskmaster.

501
00:27:53,550 --> 00:28:00,480
Isn't this also what happened to
i What's his name? Gordon, with

502
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,960
his New York restaurants Gordon
Ramsay. Yeah. Didn't you didn't

503
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,820
know it's closed down,
basically. Because he wasn't

504
00:28:05,820 --> 00:28:06,450
there enough.

505
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,130
I would think that would be the
reason. Yeah. But so I asked. So

506
00:28:11,130 --> 00:28:13,380
anyway, they have a French guy
running the thing. And I asked

507
00:28:13,380 --> 00:28:16,860
the guy who seemed like a nice
enough guy, but I asked him, I

508
00:28:16,860 --> 00:28:18,720
said, when does ruber Shawn
coming and apparently he's

509
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,750
coming in next week, which have
been the time to go. He says he

510
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:24,600
comes in once every couple of
months for like, you know, week,

511
00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:28,380
and which seems like actually
more than most of these guys

512
00:28:28,380 --> 00:28:32,790
will do. And I said, I asked the
guy so why is he is he like an a

513
00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:36,930
hole to work for? Is he like a
real? Is he a prick? But I said,

514
00:28:37,050 --> 00:28:40,590
that's that guy. And the guy the
French guy looks at me with a

515
00:28:40,590 --> 00:28:44,580
camera, like a bug of height and
and so one of the assistants

516
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:48,060
over you know, sous chef or
whatever, and it says, Uh, yeah,

517
00:28:49,229 --> 00:28:50,669
he's a real cocksucker

518
00:28:51,450 --> 00:28:55,710
guy says he's totally got you
know, and then the French guy,

519
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,030
the guy running the thing says I
didn't say that and then he

520
00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:04,950
walks off and I'm thinking
that's what you have to have in

521
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:08,400
these restaurants. You have to
have a taskmaster who's who's

522
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:14,520
probably not necessarily adored
for his meanness, but so I

523
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,260
that's what I kind of attribute
it to just

524
00:29:17,010 --> 00:29:20,340
Well, of course, that's that is
a problem you know, if you run

525
00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:23,400
your place, you know, like an
asshole which allowed these guys

526
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,460
apparently in the workplace
seemed to need to be just an

527
00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:30,330
observation. You know, if when
you're gone, then everything's

528
00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:31,140
gonna slip.

529
00:29:32,370 --> 00:29:34,980
Yeah, I've noticed this. You
know, I want to if you ever get

530
00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:38,070
to a place one of the Wolfgang
Puck's places Yeah, I've

531
00:29:38,069 --> 00:29:40,979
been there. I've been to his
place in in LA.

532
00:29:41,550 --> 00:29:44,580
If you get to that he had a
place posttrial he still does I

533
00:29:44,580 --> 00:29:47,700
guess in San Francisco. I went
there once when he was there.

534
00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:54,060
And it's like night and day.
It's amazing. And that's the

535
00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:56,640
problem with these all these
guys that are at that level. Now

536
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,800
some people I think probably can
set up a have a system where

537
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,910
they don't have to be working so
much but I think for the most

538
00:30:05,910 --> 00:30:08,010
part, they can't do it.

539
00:30:08,970 --> 00:30:12,210
The third guy, his his, his wife
can stay in one place that I

540
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:13,500
think that makes a difference to

541
00:30:14,309 --> 00:30:17,189
a little bit but you know, I
think it's a very high end, the

542
00:30:17,189 --> 00:30:20,759
super high end, Allen to cost
seems to get away with it. He's

543
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:23,549
the only one I've run into where
you can go to his restaurants

544
00:30:23,729 --> 00:30:26,279
not that you know, anyone I've
been recommending you go with

545
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:31,619
spandex. This is not this guy is
expensive. But you can go to his

546
00:30:31,619 --> 00:30:35,309
restaurants without him being
there and be assured that you're

547
00:30:35,309 --> 00:30:38,909
going to get a killer meal.
Because he has I guess he I

548
00:30:38,909 --> 00:30:42,299
think it's me must be able to
hire people to write I don't

549
00:30:42,299 --> 00:30:44,789
know, I don't I'm not in that
business. I don't know how it

550
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:45,239
works.

551
00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:48,660
Let's listen to that bottled
water comment. I don't remember

552
00:30:48,660 --> 00:30:50,760
what it was. See if it's any
good.

553
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,990
Hey, Adam, this is Doug in
Illinois calling with a little

554
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,430
call out about your show last
week where you had mentioned

555
00:30:59,430 --> 00:31:03,150
some sort of quote about if Coca
Cola came free out of your tap

556
00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:05,940
Would you still go to the store
and buy it and that you know the

557
00:31:05,940 --> 00:31:08,760
point was that no you wouldn't.
Well, you got to think about

558
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,210
water that does come out of our
taps and how big is the bottled

559
00:31:12,210 --> 00:31:16,860
water industry? We consumers are
idiots you know especially where

560
00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:19,740
I live you know we've got you
know, this Great Lake Michigan

561
00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:23,790
water and I still you know, go
out and buy bottled waters now.

562
00:31:24,270 --> 00:31:27,810
What is that? Why do we do that?
Who started that?

563
00:31:28,859 --> 00:31:32,609
I think it was started with the
shishi use of the sparkling

564
00:31:32,609 --> 00:31:36,659
bottle was in Perry a years ago
in the 70s that became a big

565
00:31:36,659 --> 00:31:39,269
deal and it was really I mean
there was only the one or two

566
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:42,779
would you could get and then
somewhere along the line I think

567
00:31:42,809 --> 00:31:47,429
what happened there was this one
moment it was maybe in the late

568
00:31:47,429 --> 00:31:50,999
80s or something where some of
these health nuts came out with

569
00:31:50,999 --> 00:31:53,699
that you have to drink so much
water all day you should be

570
00:31:53,699 --> 00:31:56,009
drinking eight glasses of water
a day and it was like a big deal

571
00:31:56,009 --> 00:31:58,079
to drink just drink water and

572
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,990
it was about the carrying of
water to you had to carry it

573
00:32:00,990 --> 00:32:01,710
around

574
00:32:02,460 --> 00:32:05,550
well that became kind of a
camera yuppie thing and I think

575
00:32:05,550 --> 00:32:08,190
it became a you know what kind
of an image like a cigarette you

576
00:32:08,190 --> 00:32:10,290
know people would have you know,
once they stopped smoking, they

577
00:32:10,290 --> 00:32:12,870
didn't have anything to do with
their hands. They moved to

578
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:13,560
gravitate

579
00:32:13,649 --> 00:32:16,229
just carry around the dildo man
that's the easiest thing

580
00:32:17,579 --> 00:32:21,749
so anyway, they carried around
water and it became like a thing

581
00:32:21,749 --> 00:32:23,849
and you see people you know they
pull out the water bottle they

582
00:32:23,849 --> 00:32:26,459
unscrew your screw it they take
a swing and then they screw and

583
00:32:26,459 --> 00:32:28,169
they put I mean it's like you
know just something to do

584
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,930
it's like a canteen isn't it?
It's you know, we used to have

585
00:32:30,930 --> 00:32:34,260
canteens as kids remember you
had that the green canteen on

586
00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:36,870
your belt? We should we should
reintroduce that just fucking

587
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:38,160
military canteens.

588
00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:42,300
Actually, that's a great idea.
These bottle have a can to the

589
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:45,510
cantonal military with
camouflage on

590
00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:48,180
one of those chains, so you
don't lose the top right you

591
00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:51,300
know, chain rattles around.
That's a pretty good idea.

592
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:56,850
Because I've stopped ordering
bottled water in I don't buy it.

593
00:32:57,570 --> 00:33:00,570
In general anyway. But in
restaurants, they all ask

594
00:33:00,570 --> 00:33:04,500
specifically for tap water.
Because as far as I'm concerned,

595
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:08,730
it's, it's, it's certainly
regulated, it's probably better

596
00:33:08,730 --> 00:33:12,420
for you. It's probably safer to
drink and it's free.

597
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,570
That's paying eight, eight to
$16 on top of your regular

598
00:33:18,570 --> 00:33:22,710
dinner bill is six bucks to $8
for a bottle of

599
00:33:22,709 --> 00:33:25,349
water man and I hate it when
they bring it to your table and

600
00:33:25,349 --> 00:33:28,139
the top is already off and you
just know that they filled it up

601
00:33:28,139 --> 00:33:29,609
in the back with regular
toggles. That's

602
00:33:29,610 --> 00:33:32,550
why by the way, that's why I
always tell people only get

603
00:33:32,550 --> 00:33:35,820
sparkling bottled water because
that's the only way you can tell

604
00:33:35,820 --> 00:33:38,370
it's real half assured that they
did some work.

605
00:33:38,370 --> 00:33:40,410
Now let's see if this guy's
anything else. You refill

606
00:33:40,410 --> 00:33:43,830
those and try to stretch the
dollar a little bit. But man,

607
00:33:43,890 --> 00:33:46,950
what a consumer city that I am
and most of us have gotten

608
00:33:47,310 --> 00:33:50,730
bottled water. So I'm not sure
if the Coca Cola coming out of

609
00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:53,670
the tap analogy is quite
appropriate to the music

610
00:33:53,670 --> 00:33:58,140
industry. Sometimes people oil
ago, you know, the market

611
00:33:58,140 --> 00:34:00,150
drives. That was from a while.
Yeah,

612
00:34:00,150 --> 00:34:04,980
yeah, yeah. But yeah, yeah. So
there's an interesting piece of

613
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:07,290
news that's going under the
radar here that I want to bring

614
00:34:07,290 --> 00:34:12,330
up for the show. After I got my
my mention of the lotto Lea,

615
00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:14,130
which now gives me a tax write
off by the

616
00:34:14,130 --> 00:34:17,700
way, I will tell you what is
kept in place that

617
00:34:17,910 --> 00:34:22,350
I was disappointed. Okay,
gotcha. So, Ms. There was a

618
00:34:22,350 --> 00:34:26,220
reporter that was just casually
talking on MSNBC, one of their

619
00:34:26,580 --> 00:34:29,520
anchors, or one of their part
timers who used the term were

620
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,090
said, don't you think that
they're pimping out Chelsea? Oh,

621
00:34:33,090 --> 00:34:36,840
yeah. Going to some things.
Yeah. This has become this huge

622
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,840
scandal. They put the guy on
probation for saying that. Yeah.

623
00:34:43,050 --> 00:34:45,960
for saying that. They were using
the term and apparently what

624
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:52,020
what would the cascade effect
began when Hillary heard that he

625
00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:56,910
used the term pimped out and she
decided that she's going to pull

626
00:34:56,910 --> 00:35:00,900
out of the MSNBC version of
these never end debates they're

627
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:03,900
having over here every two weeks
or every week, there's a debate

628
00:35:04,410 --> 00:35:07,260
on MSNBC, she doesn't say I'm
not gonna do the MSNBC debates

629
00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:10,860
and so like a good journalistic
organisation that they are they,

630
00:35:11,130 --> 00:35:15,900
they put the guy on notice,
essentially firing him and said,

631
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:18,540
whatever you want, Hillary will
do whatever you want. This is

632
00:35:18,540 --> 00:35:23,670
like a bad signal, it seems to
me that these spineless jerks

633
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:26,790
that are at MSNBC would do this
because one of their guys

634
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:30,510
casually used the term pimped
out when it was very appropriate

635
00:35:30,510 --> 00:35:33,750
it made actually actual sense
and in any sort of grammatical

636
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:38,280
or, or linguistic way. And they
would fire the guy over this

637
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,620
because Hillary didn't like it's
unbelievable.

638
00:35:40,980 --> 00:35:45,780
Does Hillary understand the the
modern cultural reference that

639
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:49,290
that actually refers to? Does
she understand that? Or does she

640
00:35:49,290 --> 00:35:52,200
she thinking that she's still in
the days of Huggie? Bear with a

641
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,660
big fedora hat being and her
being Chelsea's pimp?

642
00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:58,170
I would think that she would,
the latter would probably be the

643
00:35:58,170 --> 00:36:01,230
situation me where she doesn't
understand what that phrase

644
00:36:01,230 --> 00:36:06,300
means or anything in between.
But I mean, that's what Be my

645
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:08,730
guest. But even if she did it,
whether she did or didn't it's,

646
00:36:09,390 --> 00:36:12,750
you know, I mean, if that's the
case, and MSNBC should have

647
00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:14,640
explained it to her, I mean,
yeah, I don't think I don't

648
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,920
really even care if she wants to
throw her weight around. Because

649
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,050
if you're gonna throw your
weight around as a politician,

650
00:36:19,170 --> 00:36:20,550
and tell the news media what

651
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:23,580
to do and what to how to speak.
Yeah, true, and

652
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:26,340
knock yourself out show, you
know, but if these guys are the

653
00:36:26,340 --> 00:36:30,450
spineless worms, that that they
apparently are, that they can't

654
00:36:30,450 --> 00:36:34,530
eat, you know, stand up to the
to the, you know, powers, you

655
00:36:34,530 --> 00:36:37,860
know, they're always what's the
truth to power was a big one of

656
00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:43,860
these Democrat, liberal phrases
that it's going around, if they

657
00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:48,150
can't even do that as a as a, as
a functioning media company. I

658
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:51,630
mean, it's hopeless that I would
just I just just gold by this,

659
00:36:51,630 --> 00:36:54,780
but what really got me is that
nobody in the media has said,

660
00:36:54,810 --> 00:36:58,710
jumped up and down in disgust
over this. They just Oh, yeah.

661
00:36:58,710 --> 00:37:01,140
Well, here's what happened was
we reported as a news item and

662
00:37:01,140 --> 00:37:03,990
blah, blah, blah, and they're on
on to the next story, because it

663
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:06,690
was handled like straight news.
And I'm thinking, how can you

664
00:37:06,690 --> 00:37:09,600
like let this slide? You know,

665
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:13,230
well, we've talked about, you
know, the state of journalism

666
00:37:13,230 --> 00:37:19,050
before in fact, I'm looking this
up now. There was, you know,

667
00:37:19,050 --> 00:37:21,240
Camden Market you I'm sure
you've heard of Canada market,

668
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:24,330
John. Yeah. burned to the ground
burned to the ground last night.

669
00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:28,980
And I was reading the story on
the BBC website.

670
00:37:29,010 --> 00:37:31,590
Hold on. I'm just going to find
it for a second because I just

671
00:37:31,590 --> 00:37:36,780
could not believe that they had
done this whole lot. Camden.

672
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,520
Gotta love the BBC, though. They
do have a lot of cool cool

673
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,060
stuff.

674
00:37:44,730 --> 00:37:48,090
Scrap where is it? Okay. Your
tax dollars at work? Yes.

675
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:53,070
Yeah, exactly. Major fire
cannon. Okay, here we go. I hope

676
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:55,620
Oh, crap. I didn't want that.
Okay, I can't find it. But

677
00:37:55,620 --> 00:38:01,380
anyway, they were able to turn
the story in Camden into an

678
00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:05,010
entertainment piece.
Unbelievable. But because the

679
00:38:05,010 --> 00:38:08,700
pub and that's why I was looking
for the for the article, I'll

680
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:13,890
find it. There's a pub that that
also burned to the ground, which

681
00:38:13,890 --> 00:38:16,470
was frequented by many
celebrities, including the now

682
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:21,120
in rehab, Amy Winehouse. I was
blown away that they

683
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,000
could actually turn on Amy
Winehouse plug.

684
00:38:24,030 --> 00:38:28,170
They could actually. I mean,
that was just unbelievable. That

685
00:38:28,170 --> 00:38:32,040
is unbelievable. That is
pathetic. It is but this is what

686
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,210
it's become. I mean, all it is
just looking at the news, the

687
00:38:36,210 --> 00:38:39,390
BBC News, you know, Katelyn
McCann is still an area

688
00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:42,780
but one of the most important
little areas in London burns to

689
00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:45,840
the ground and somehow they they
work in Amy Winehouse was got

690
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,290
nothing to do with the story.
Exactly. Except she went there

691
00:38:49,290 --> 00:38:51,330
once. I mean, you could probably
say almost everybody wants to

692
00:38:51,330 --> 00:38:53,640
throw anybody's name and why Amy
Winehouse,

693
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:57,120
and because you know, they've
reported on her getting smashed

694
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,540
in that bar. I mean, it's just
it's not it's completely nuts.

695
00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:03,630
It's like we can't live without
the distraction of entertainment

696
00:39:03,630 --> 00:39:08,490
news. In everything. It's yeah,
I don't know. It's

697
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,670
It's terrible. I mean, I find it
to be disgusting. And the thing

698
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:14,700
is, you can rant about it all
you want, but the public you

699
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,970
know, eats this stuff up. I
mean, everybody you know, you

700
00:39:17,970 --> 00:39:20,490
can say anything you want to but
you can add that little that

701
00:39:20,490 --> 00:39:23,580
little entertainment angle and
the next thing you know, you

702
00:39:23,580 --> 00:39:28,020
know, the numbers go up. There's
no sense of responsibility by

703
00:39:28,020 --> 00:39:30,600
the media, which is I think
there should be where they Yeah,

704
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,840
okay, we can do that. But we're
not going to just do that.

705
00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:38,850
Obviously it has to be because
that's what we as the public

706
00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:42,330
want. I mean, there's no doubt
about it. It's it's supply and

707
00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:46,710
demand. We we desperately want
more stuff that includes news of

708
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:49,380
preferably fucked up
celebrities.

709
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:54,450
Yeah, yes. Does it make you feel
better about yourself? I guess.

710
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,740
Is that it is that so we're that
unhappy that we have to?

711
00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:02,280
Oh, that poor girl. Well, she's
she's got so much talent and

712
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,970
look at her she's all screwed up
and she's got tattoos all over

713
00:40:05,970 --> 00:40:07,050
she's just a wreck.

714
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,440
But how but how but how come?
That's that is so interesting to

715
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:14,940
us and makes me feel so much
better and 3 million displaced

716
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,770
Iraqis. You know, we don't give
a shit about why is that?

717
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:22,440
Well, because they're not Amy
Winehouse. They can't sing.

718
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:23,190
That's true.

719
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:29,910
They can sing. If you can sing.
I'll care about you, bitch.

720
00:40:32,610 --> 00:40:33,390
That's funny.

721
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,440
Look at the talented little
Iraqi kid. Oh, now I care about

722
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,690
him. He could dance. You could
tap dance and sing.

723
00:40:40,229 --> 00:40:46,379
That would help. It's not I
noticed this. But I saw the

724
00:40:46,379 --> 00:40:49,799
interesting thing that they're
doing on CBS. And they doing it

725
00:40:49,799 --> 00:40:53,279
locally tonight. This green
thing is really, it's coming on

726
00:40:53,279 --> 00:40:56,909
so strongest, I think it's gonna
burn itself out a little too

727
00:40:56,909 --> 00:41:00,269
much. Now they are local news.
They have a thing called the

728
00:41:00,269 --> 00:41:03,629
Green beat. And when they go in
this like says always some lame

729
00:41:03,629 --> 00:41:06,839
story about somebody saving
energy, you know, or recycling

730
00:41:06,839 --> 00:41:08,489
or making a compost

731
00:41:08,999 --> 00:41:11,669
pile and it's just before the
weather's when they always have

732
00:41:11,669 --> 00:41:14,489
the green beat. It's filler,
John, it's when we have no news.

733
00:41:14,489 --> 00:41:14,819
But what's

734
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:18,060
weird is now when they go to the
green beat the logo for the

735
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:23,610
station changes in just for the
green beat to green. It's

736
00:41:23,610 --> 00:41:24,240
unbelievable.

737
00:41:24,330 --> 00:41:26,970
It's not going to burn out.
Dude, this is a this is already

738
00:41:26,970 --> 00:41:31,860
a $10 billion industry. Green is
here for for a long time.

739
00:41:32,190 --> 00:41:33,540
I'm not happy about it.

740
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,660
Here comes the hate mail.

741
00:41:38,070 --> 00:41:39,180
So what So anyway,

742
00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:41,430
so what was the report the green
report.

743
00:41:43,050 --> 00:41:46,320
So last week, we didn't talk
about this until after the show,

744
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,530
which was and I think it's still
worth bringing up because I made

745
00:41:49,530 --> 00:41:53,130
a note. Although you know,
there's a spontaneity is kind of

746
00:41:53,130 --> 00:41:56,580
shot when I make notes. But I'm
still going to do this. Which is

747
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,400
you have an Amex black.

748
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,920
Oh, right. Right. Right. We did
talk about this. I remember.

749
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,750
Yeah. I don't have one. But

750
00:42:05,130 --> 00:42:07,980
yeah, so I was finally you're
just I have this card. Right.

751
00:42:07,980 --> 00:42:08,100
This

752
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:12,960
is the black card from American
Express. Which at one point in

753
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,040
the I'd have to say late 80s.
You know, it was quite the

754
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,610
status symbol to have and I
guess it still is, although I

755
00:42:20,610 --> 00:42:22,260
can't imagine why.

756
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:28,260
I don't know. I've only seen it
two of them ever. The guy who

757
00:42:28,260 --> 00:42:34,020
runs the register. John lettuce
has one. And he's also one of

758
00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:38,700
the owners. And, and a friend of
mine, Bill Losee has one

759
00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:42,600
that this is how I found the
website. What was it black dash

760
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,280
amex.com or Amex?

761
00:42:44,820 --> 00:42:46,950
Not some website that people
should check out because it's

762
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:47,580
quite funny.

763
00:42:47,610 --> 00:42:51,420
Let me see Amex I think was Amex
dash black.com. Let me just

764
00:42:51,420 --> 00:42:56,430
check. Yeah, yeah, they have.
This is great. They have a

765
00:42:56,430 --> 00:43:01,440
picture of all kinds of hip hop
artists. Like a very exclusive

766
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,080
club you definitely want to be
associated with there's all

767
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,230
kinds of pictures on this web
blog of people holding up their

768
00:43:07,230 --> 00:43:11,850
black card inside their Bentley
showing their statements. Look,

769
00:43:11,850 --> 00:43:15,570
I had $45,000 I had to pay on my
black card and then what was the

770
00:43:15,570 --> 00:43:17,610
one you found? Was it Lindsay
Lohan

771
00:43:17,939 --> 00:43:20,489
she's not at the bottom there
was a there was a I think maybe

772
00:43:20,489 --> 00:43:21,359
I got it off.

773
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:23,070
I don't know it's still here.
It's still here. It's

774
00:43:23,070 --> 00:43:26,640
still there. Yes. It's a picture
of Lindsay Lohan to driver's

775
00:43:26,970 --> 00:43:27,600
licence. Yeah.

776
00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:31,020
And and of her American Express
black card with a little

777
00:43:31,530 --> 00:43:34,650
American Express black but what
was I was fascinated that she is

778
00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:38,520
like so photogenic that she
looks great on your licence

779
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:38,970
photo.

780
00:43:39,269 --> 00:43:42,749
She looks awesome. And she looks
a lot better than she does now.

781
00:43:42,749 --> 00:43:49,739
I think this is from 2006 This
this picture? No, wait a minute.

782
00:43:50,729 --> 00:43:53,339
Yeah. 2006 Yes, it is.

783
00:43:56,220 --> 00:43:58,950
So anyway, so it might the only
reason for bringing this up is I

784
00:43:58,950 --> 00:44:01,830
wanted to make a public
complaint not about the black

785
00:44:01,830 --> 00:44:04,440
card I don't care okay. And I
think you know somebody wants to

786
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,420
spend you know, have one that's
okay. But the I was told by one

787
00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:11,850
of these guys that it's great if
you travel internationally a

788
00:44:11,850 --> 00:44:16,020
lot, they're handy. But the is
the fact that Amex came up with

789
00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:18,570
a blue card which has a smart
chip in it which I thought would

790
00:44:18,570 --> 00:44:21,690
be a smart card that would be
like the ones they have in

791
00:44:21,690 --> 00:44:24,930
Europe and if anybody travels
in, in France for example,

792
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,780
there's always these complaints
about how the service is so bad

793
00:44:27,780 --> 00:44:30,000
and the waiters are rude and all
the rest of it but the fact of

794
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,900
the matter is, you go there and
now a days when you want your

795
00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:37,470
check they come out with a
slumber J handheld device, they

796
00:44:37,470 --> 00:44:40,890
grab your smart card, stick it
on there, it sucks the money

797
00:44:40,890 --> 00:44:43,050
right out of the car, you sign
right on the spot. You never

798
00:44:43,050 --> 00:44:45,480
have to You're out of there.
It's actually much faster than

799
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,840
what we do. Yeah. And so I
figured well this is cool

800
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,070
because Amex has got

801
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,620
a way to mint way image on now
there's there's two different

802
00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:58,680
systems there's the the chip the
chip card, which actually stores

803
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:04,590
the money on The chip itself,
right? And then there's just the

804
00:45:05,130 --> 00:45:10,020
regular chip that has
identifying information, right?

805
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:12,750
Instead of the stripe, but it's
not actually loaded onto the

806
00:45:12,750 --> 00:45:14,940
card. It just it just checks
your balance.

807
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:18,209
Right. But the point is, is that
when they stick this thing in

808
00:45:18,209 --> 00:45:21,509
this little slumber J machine,
which is wireless to it, it does

809
00:45:21,509 --> 00:45:24,989
that it does the authorization
everything. Exactly. Or or it

810
00:45:24,989 --> 00:45:27,179
sucks it out of that other type
of card, which is the

811
00:45:27,479 --> 00:45:30,209
debit that's pretty common over
here. i All restaurants have the

812
00:45:30,209 --> 00:45:32,009
wireless swipers.

813
00:45:32,579 --> 00:45:36,359
Well, anyway, the point I was
making was that so I figure Amex

814
00:45:36,359 --> 00:45:39,239
is getting on the bandwagon
because the smart card the card

815
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,019
with a chip on it has been slow
to evolve in the United States,

816
00:45:43,019 --> 00:45:45,749
because our infrastructure and
from what other reasons, and one

817
00:45:45,749 --> 00:45:48,419
of the somebody pointed out to
me once is that one of the main

818
00:45:48,419 --> 00:45:51,659
reasons is that the patents on
those cards is held by some

819
00:45:51,659 --> 00:45:54,179
French guy, and it's just thrown
out, the Americans aren't going

820
00:45:54,179 --> 00:45:56,999
to use these cards, of course,
because we don't want to pay the

821
00:45:56,999 --> 00:46:01,649
two cents for this guy's patent.
Anyway, but the irony to the

822
00:46:01,649 --> 00:46:04,889
AMEX card is I fear that we're
doing something smart here. It's

823
00:46:04,889 --> 00:46:08,489
not compatible with the oldest
systems in Europe. That's so

824
00:46:08,489 --> 00:46:09,539
what's the point?

825
00:46:09,959 --> 00:46:13,079
I don't understand what
incompatibilities there can be

826
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:20,219
though, because all my European
cards work in the US. So just in

827
00:46:20,219 --> 00:46:22,589
all different machines and ATMs.
I'm

828
00:46:22,590 --> 00:46:25,050
just told that you can't you
know, the way you can use those

829
00:46:25,050 --> 00:46:28,350
cards over there, where the gut
waiter comes out and just give

830
00:46:28,350 --> 00:46:30,750
it to him and he boom, right?
Yeah, and then it doesn't work

831
00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:32,400
doesn't work with this blue
card.

832
00:46:32,729 --> 00:46:35,459
Are you sure that you didn't
just get declined?

833
00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:38,760
I didn't have one I'm just
telling you what somebody was

834
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,190
giving me the lecture about when
I was bragging about this card

835
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:43,530
to some smart card expert he
says you know, there's it's an

836
00:46:43,530 --> 00:46:46,290
incompatible system and you they
have to go through the old way

837
00:46:46,290 --> 00:46:49,230
the old mechanism was at the
swipe and send it to some

838
00:46:49,230 --> 00:46:53,700
computer I mean, it's not like
you can just give them the card

839
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:57,450
and walk away like you can with
the European cards. Okay, so we

840
00:46:57,450 --> 00:46:59,460
don't have any I'm wrong maybe
somebody can correct me but

841
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:01,950
that's what I'm told. I was just
gonna say you never taken off we

842
00:47:01,950 --> 00:47:03,630
nobody uses the AMEX blue

843
00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:07,410
we don't have we don't have
first first hand experience.

844
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:10,770
That's because the cards I think
is a dud.

845
00:47:11,310 --> 00:47:15,090
Now let me ask you this John.
Which of the stories and topics

846
00:47:15,090 --> 00:47:20,580
we've discussed today? Will you
be highlighting on twit fucker

847
00:47:21,690 --> 00:47:23,910
probably haven't been on twit
for a while.

848
00:47:24,030 --> 00:47:27,090
I tell you that we started off
something man. It's like now

849
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,460
every single show that used to
talk about tech now there's

850
00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:32,790
talking about stories that just
talk and stuff not even about

851
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:34,890
the news just about product
which is great by the way, I

852
00:47:34,890 --> 00:47:40,410
mean, I love listening to it.
But it's but it's not about you

853
00:47:40,410 --> 00:47:40,650
but let

854
00:47:40,650 --> 00:47:43,860
me wonder what you're talking
about here with the twit thing

855
00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:46,920
and I once on some twit I think
I want

856
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:49,920
every single episode every
single episode you're bringing

857
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,210
up great stories about food and
travel and I'm jealous. I'm like

858
00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:57,900
the fucking bitch over here you
know and John's on all these

859
00:47:57,900 --> 00:47:59,130
shows and on Twitter

860
00:47:59,850 --> 00:48:00,960
that gorilla does it

861
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:08,340
just talking about that story
got me all worked up. So but no

862
00:48:08,340 --> 00:48:13,380
man use like your all your best
material is going to tech shows

863
00:48:13,650 --> 00:48:17,700
investment Stop it Stop it. Tech
on the tech show.

864
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,580
You don't that's the problem
though. But

865
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,910
once three months ago you're
right I brought something up

866
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:26,430
about cars or something. No,

867
00:48:26,460 --> 00:48:29,730
no, it was the fig trees and it
was all kinds of interesting

868
00:48:29,730 --> 00:48:30,270
stuff.

869
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,800
What about the fig trees?

870
00:48:31,830 --> 00:48:34,500
I think it was you were talking
about fig trees and how there's

871
00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:37,260
one route and that they branch
out four acres. I don't know

872
00:48:37,260 --> 00:48:37,740
what it was.

873
00:48:37,770 --> 00:48:41,370
No, that's the cashew? The
cashew I'm sorry. Yeah, the

874
00:48:41,370 --> 00:48:44,880
cashew tree in Brazil is one no
no don't go

875
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,310
repeating it go talk to your
tech friends about that

876
00:48:48,660 --> 00:48:51,570
story No, that's good. I don't
want to hear it anymore and on

877
00:48:51,570 --> 00:48:53,580
and on and on and on and on and
on.

878
00:48:54,990 --> 00:48:56,310
Yeah, this is mature.

879
00:48:57,990 --> 00:49:02,790
This message is in response or
in regards to rather no agenda.

880
00:49:03,930 --> 00:49:08,670
Just wanted to let you guys know
that your show is what I

881
00:49:08,670 --> 00:49:11,790
imagined podcasting would be
when I first started listening

882
00:49:11,790 --> 00:49:16,110
to podcasts to two or three
years ago started out with the

883
00:49:16,110 --> 00:49:21,330
VSC to be quite honest you guys
are really interesting and I'm

884
00:49:21,330 --> 00:49:24,120
really digging the fact that
there really is no agenda and

885
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,660
that it's whatever is on your
guys's minds is let you guys

886
00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:32,400
talk about and it's it's kind of
weird but I'm I seem to be in

887
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,150
agreement and

888
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,640
I feel funny between my legs
when I listened on

889
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,130
the same wavelength to you guys
when you guys are talking about

890
00:49:38,130 --> 00:49:41,730
and so just want to say I really
appreciate the new format that

891
00:49:41,730 --> 00:49:42,240
you guys are

892
00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:45,570
brother I mean talk that you
just say you know we like to

893
00:49:45,570 --> 00:49:46,410
show Goodbye.

894
00:49:46,499 --> 00:49:49,949
Oh man. This is what podcasting
is all about. John is the

895
00:49:49,979 --> 00:49:51,659
unedited voice of the people.

896
00:49:52,830 --> 00:49:56,370
The law you know they he makes
an interesting point about what

897
00:49:56,370 --> 00:50:00,210
he expects from podcasts. And I
kind of in agreement one Other

898
00:50:00,210 --> 00:50:04,140
things that shouldn't make
Podcasting A little different is

899
00:50:04,140 --> 00:50:07,830
the fact that it's not, you
know, based on the models that

900
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,300
have evolved in radio, which
are, you know, slicker, and

901
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,260
more produced also time driven,
driven by an absolute start and

902
00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:18,720
finish with a clock. Yeah, yeah.

903
00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:21,780
And fact you have, and people
don't realise this. And they

904
00:50:21,780 --> 00:50:23,700
say, Well, I know what I'm gonna
say, I hate the radio, because I

905
00:50:23,730 --> 00:50:25,680
don't listen. And there's a
commercial. I tried to switch

906
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,390
this as a commercial. And
there's a commercial, every

907
00:50:27,390 --> 00:50:29,130
station has got a commercial. Do
you

908
00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:33,420
know that when I worked at z
100. In New York, I did. I did

909
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:36,810
the morning show for a couple
months. But I also did weekend

910
00:50:36,810 --> 00:50:41,730
swing shifts, they had a number
of lights in the studio. Because

911
00:50:41,730 --> 00:50:44,460
you have that quarter hour
actually, you're supposed to be

912
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:50,190
back into back to the music at
47 minutes past the hour, which

913
00:50:50,190 --> 00:50:52,560
always is, of course, a big
power rotation song, because

914
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,690
when someone hits it, like, oh,
he has my favourite song when I

915
00:50:54,690 --> 00:50:59,280
listen to it. But we had lights
in the studio. And you could see

916
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,850
exactly when each individual
competing station was in

917
00:51:02,850 --> 00:51:06,090
commercials, and it would stay
on while they were in

918
00:51:06,090 --> 00:51:08,760
commercials. And what you wanted
to do is finish it and finish

919
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,790
everything up before your own
commercial break, to be back

920
00:51:11,790 --> 00:51:14,040
into music before the lights
went off from the other

921
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,880
stations. That's how competitive
radio is or was at least in the

922
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:18,450
90s.

923
00:51:19,170 --> 00:51:22,830
Yeah, I don't think that's done
as much anymore. I think they

924
00:51:22,830 --> 00:51:24,480
don't care. But

925
00:51:24,780 --> 00:51:27,240
there is some general apathy
there and radio land isn't

926
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:27,540
there?

927
00:51:28,349 --> 00:51:29,519
Don't you think? Yeah.

928
00:51:30,540 --> 00:51:35,670
Because it's all owned by Clear
Channel? Yeah. Is your phone

929
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:36,030
ring?

930
00:51:36,750 --> 00:51:39,390
Hold on? I guess somebody's
ringing the phone. All right, I

931
00:51:39,390 --> 00:51:39,600
want to

932
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,000
play something then while you're
doing that, let me say

933
00:51:44,310 --> 00:51:47,790
hello, Adam, or say hello, Adam.
And John, because I intend this

934
00:51:47,790 --> 00:51:53,190
message for no agenda. It's
savant Steve in San Francisco.

935
00:51:54,090 --> 00:51:58,650
Don't ask John. And I made a
comment about the Sarbanes Oxley

936
00:51:58,650 --> 00:52:02,460
stuff now professionally, I end
up dealing with a lot of Sox

937
00:52:02,460 --> 00:52:02,850
crap. So

938
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,500
are you listening to this? Are
you?

939
00:52:04,770 --> 00:52:05,850
Yeah, no, I'm hearing it.

940
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,040
Oh, you're back. You want me to
finish?

941
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:11,760
Well, I wanted to hear what he
said about Sarbanes Oxley.

942
00:52:11,789 --> 00:52:16,259
Think about it. John's point
was, well, why did we need a new

943
00:52:16,259 --> 00:52:22,379
law? The guy's got busted
anyway. Right? A proponent of

944
00:52:22,379 --> 00:52:26,909
Sox would say yeah, but before
you get an executive could go.

945
00:52:27,539 --> 00:52:30,509
Well, I just didn't know what
was going on. Didn't realise

946
00:52:30,509 --> 00:52:34,049
what was happening. Sorry. And
millions of people are out of

947
00:52:34,049 --> 00:52:34,799
their pensions.

948
00:52:36,210 --> 00:52:39,240
I don't know if he has a point,
John. Currently not.

949
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:42,990
Yes, you have to get to the
point where they you know,

950
00:52:42,990 --> 00:52:45,630
within like, 15 seconds. This is
44 second

951
00:52:45,810 --> 00:52:48,720
clue about how to do these
clips. They gotta come in. They

952
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:52,470
gotta sit, hit it hard. And then
get out of there. Yeah. Ladies

953
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:58,500
and gentlemen. Yeah. And in and
out that way. Because I hate

954
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:02,160
Sarbanes Oxley. I think it's
ruining your business.

955
00:53:02,310 --> 00:53:05,010
It's ruined every single
business. It's horrible.

956
00:53:05,490 --> 00:53:08,070
Well, it's really bad for the
tech business. And the thing

957
00:53:08,070 --> 00:53:10,320
other people that the other
thing people have to realise is

958
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,470
that during this little period
where we don't have a lot of

959
00:53:13,470 --> 00:53:16,020
public offerings, because
there's just too hard to do,

960
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:18,360
because of Sarbanes Oxley, you
just can't get your numbers,

961
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,670
right. And it's too much work.
Nobody wants to be a director of

962
00:53:20,670 --> 00:53:25,470
a public corporation because of
it, is that these these giant

963
00:53:25,710 --> 00:53:30,930
consortiums of money money,
investment firms are privatising

964
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,350
companies left and right. And
they're doing it to an extreme.

965
00:53:34,350 --> 00:53:36,450
That's why all these buyouts,
you know, the privatise this?

966
00:53:36,450 --> 00:53:40,560
privatise that, and, and they're
getting a huge portfolio of

967
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,720
companies. So what do you think
they're going to do with these

968
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:45,180
companies, the first thing
they're going to do is they can

969
00:53:45,210 --> 00:53:47,910
clean up their numbers because
they don't lose money on the

970
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:50,220
Sarbanes Oxley thing, since
these are not public

971
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:51,180
corporations. Yes, they

972
00:53:51,180 --> 00:53:54,360
strictly strip everything out.
They've they cut everything

973
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,090
away, cut it into bits, if it's
worth more and individual

974
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,200
individual pieces,

975
00:53:58,740 --> 00:54:01,260
right, and they keep it and they
do. So they fine tune these

976
00:54:01,290 --> 00:54:05,370
things that ruined many of them.
And then when when things loosen

977
00:54:05,370 --> 00:54:08,880
up, which is going to happen
eventually, with the repeal, or

978
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,760
the modification of Sarbanes
Oxley, the first thing that's

979
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,160
going to happen as these
privatised companies are going

980
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,790
to be thrown into the market as
individual IPOs they're going to

981
00:54:17,790 --> 00:54:21,210
swamp the market with because
there's gonna be so many of

982
00:54:21,210 --> 00:54:24,150
them, that the little tech
companies that actually need the

983
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:27,420
money are going to aren't going
to be able to even get the money

984
00:54:27,420 --> 00:54:30,690
then. So I mean, right, it just
getting worse by the day as long

985
00:54:30,690 --> 00:54:32,310
as this continues to drag on.

986
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:36,960
Well, I think there's a lot more
wrong with with Wall Street in

987
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,580
the end the whole system. I
mean, it goes beyond that. I

988
00:54:41,580 --> 00:54:44,910
mean, we have this this so
called subprime crisis, which of

989
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:48,510
course is really a much bigger
crisis as now the banks don't

990
00:54:48,510 --> 00:54:52,500
trust each other and now that
the bond rating companies, it's

991
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:56,670
messed up, and I think it's much
much too there's a lot more news

992
00:54:56,670 --> 00:55:01,050
to come. Before we can even you
know Look at some kind of

993
00:55:01,050 --> 00:55:03,210
healthy IPO market, I think.

994
00:55:03,930 --> 00:55:07,740
Well, probably, but as far as
I'm concerned, it's all because

995
00:55:07,740 --> 00:55:08,670
of Sarbanes Oxley.

996
00:55:11,219 --> 00:55:12,839
Okay, I'm not gonna fight. I

997
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,320
just, it's just a bad idea. I
mean, I know the thing is, why

998
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,290
would the Republican
administration be the one that

999
00:55:19,290 --> 00:55:21,480
Institute's it? What are they
trying to prove?

1000
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:26,250
Well, can your boy John McCain
change it? Since he'll be the

1001
00:55:26,250 --> 00:55:27,150
next president? And

1002
00:55:27,150 --> 00:55:29,640
I don't know what McCain's
position is on that. I don't

1003
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,390
know what his position is on
most things. And by the way,

1004
00:55:33,390 --> 00:55:36,090
here's the last story I want to
bring up. Now that you mentioned

1005
00:55:36,210 --> 00:55:39,810
politics. There's a huge thing
going on here. That's just

1006
00:55:39,810 --> 00:55:45,390
hilarious. In California, they
are actually in the Democratic

1007
00:55:45,390 --> 00:55:49,050
party this year, they have a
thing called super delegates.

1008
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,660
And as 40% of the votes that go
into the convention are the

1009
00:55:51,660 --> 00:55:55,080
super delegates. And it seems as
though they've already picked

1010
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,590
Hillary no matter how the public
votes the super delegates have.

1011
00:55:58,950 --> 00:56:01,140
Yeah, the super delegates are
all on Hillary side so that

1012
00:56:01,140 --> 00:56:03,450
Hillary is gonna get his
nomination by hook or crook,

1013
00:56:03,479 --> 00:56:06,029
because you just explain that
super delegate to they have more

1014
00:56:06,029 --> 00:56:07,319
power, do they have more than

1015
00:56:07,650 --> 00:56:10,050
they can they the super
delegate, unlike the regular

1016
00:56:10,050 --> 00:56:15,000
delegates, when the if they're
assigned an area, whatever the

1017
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,060
public decides, doesn't, they
can do whatever they want? In

1018
00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:21,150
other words, they can say, Okay,
well, you voted for Hillary, and

1019
00:56:21,150 --> 00:56:25,770
but I'm gonna go with Obama.
Now, the locally, this has

1020
00:56:25,770 --> 00:56:29,490
actually happened already in
Marin County, the hippie dippie.

1021
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,600
County over here in the San
Francisco Bay Area, which voted

1022
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,320
heavily for Obama. And there's a
congresswoman from the district

1023
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,550
who's been given super delegates
status to represent Marin. And

1024
00:56:41,550 --> 00:56:45,270
she says, I don't care what you
voted, I'm voting for Hillary.

1025
00:56:45,690 --> 00:56:49,590
Right. So now everybody's up in
arms about this is actually

1026
00:56:49,590 --> 00:56:50,850
quite funny to watch.

1027
00:56:51,090 --> 00:56:54,870
Interesting. So what's the
what's the whole point? Yeah,

1028
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:58,200
exactly. What's the point of all
of these of all these primaries?

1029
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,320
If what do you say 40%? of super
delegates?

1030
00:57:01,590 --> 00:57:02,550
That's what I hear. Yeah.

1031
00:57:02,580 --> 00:57:04,860
And how do you get the super
delegates status to you know,

1032
00:57:04,860 --> 00:57:05,670
does, I think it was

1033
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:10,080
pretty free our Democratic
National Committee when they put

1034
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,530
together the programme for
picking their candidate pre

1035
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,830
convention? I think they dreamed
this thing up, I think maybe

1036
00:57:16,830 --> 00:57:19,920
they've existed before. But I
think this time, they've been

1037
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:24,690
designed specifically really, to
benefit one candidate. And

1038
00:57:24,690 --> 00:57:27,690
what's gonna happen if this is
all you know, the way I'm

1039
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:33,690
perceiving it, is that Obama
could actually be viable but get

1040
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:36,300
screwed by the system. Yeah,

1041
00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:38,940
by the by the, by the rigged
system, absolutely rigged

1042
00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:39,180
system.

1043
00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:42,960
And what that'll do is that'll
Burke, the black community to

1044
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,660
such an extreme, because they're
just gonna see the, you know,

1045
00:57:46,050 --> 00:57:50,580
this is another holding the man
down, you got it. And so they're

1046
00:57:50,580 --> 00:57:55,530
gonna not vote. So unless No,
that will be Hillary says, Well,

1047
00:57:55,530 --> 00:57:58,800
you know, they keep the blacks
because they did come out in

1048
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,530
great numbers to vote for Obama.
There'll be in the hands of the

1049
00:58:01,530 --> 00:58:03,390
Vice President, the Vice
President and

1050
00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:06,300
and that's the as you call it,
unelectable ticket.

1051
00:58:06,510 --> 00:58:11,790
So non electable ticket. Why,
again? Why did unelectable?

1052
00:58:11,820 --> 00:58:16,830
Yeah. I think there's too many
negative votes. People that

1053
00:58:16,830 --> 00:58:18,990
would just vote against Hillary
because they don't like her. And

1054
00:58:18,990 --> 00:58:21,300
I think a lot of them are women.
And I think there's just a lot

1055
00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:23,940
of people who won't vote for a
black guy. I think it's just the

1056
00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:27,930
inherent racism in the in in any
system, because he's the first

1057
00:58:27,930 --> 00:58:31,260
one. I mean, I don't think that
he can't when in fact, I think

1058
00:58:31,260 --> 00:58:34,590
as a longshot as a president, I
think he could actually get the

1059
00:58:34,590 --> 00:58:38,940
job and I think he might be the
president in 2012. But out of

1060
00:58:38,940 --> 00:58:41,670
the chute. We don't know
anything about this guy. He just

1061
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:45,060
showed up. I mean, I didn't hear
about him four years ago. He's,

1062
00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:50,070
you know, he's basically a
newbie, a noob. He's a newbie

1063
00:58:50,070 --> 00:58:53,040
and Anna Hillary's kind of a
sleazeball. And yes, this

1064
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,480
combination is not electable.

1065
00:58:55,290 --> 00:58:58,890
Let me ask you though, did you
think Chelsea had gotten hotter

1066
00:58:58,890 --> 00:59:02,610
after they pimped her out? I
thought she looked a little

1067
00:59:02,610 --> 00:59:03,150
hotter

1068
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:06,990
I don't know she's you know
she's seems like a nice enough

1069
00:59:06,990 --> 00:59:10,350
person but you know, I don't see
the stink over I'm sure she

1070
00:59:10,350 --> 00:59:12,990
would have thought was funny. So
do ask her what she thought

1071
00:59:12,990 --> 00:59:14,160
about being pimped out

1072
00:59:14,190 --> 00:59:17,400
and really that's what we need
to hear from from from Chelsea.

1073
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:20,640
She should you know that would
be good for her to stand up and

1074
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:28,530
say Yeah, fuck you MSNBC. The
Republican Party Do they also

1075
00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:29,580
have super delegates?

1076
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:33,270
Now the Republicans did
something different though. I

1077
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:35,940
don't think so. I don't know.
But but you know, the

1078
00:59:35,940 --> 00:59:39,060
Republicans have gone with the
you know, letting people vote

1079
00:59:39,060 --> 00:59:41,460
for them. But they pulled a
couple of interesting stunts and

1080
00:59:41,460 --> 00:59:45,060
one of them cracks me up who
didn't California again, so I'm

1081
00:59:45,090 --> 00:59:49,560
registered Independent. And and
I've been a Democrat and I've

1082
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,170
been a Republican nominee
independent so I, you know,

1083
00:59:52,860 --> 00:59:56,460
looking at things from us, you
can do whatever you want. So I

1084
00:59:56,460 --> 01:00:00,420
Yeah, that's what I thought so
when I went to go to vote Which

1085
01:00:00,420 --> 01:00:02,940
I did it almost the last minute
because I figured, well, you

1086
01:00:02,940 --> 01:00:06,870
know, I should at least throw
some votes out because actually,

1087
01:00:07,260 --> 01:00:10,920
there was a local major I wanted
to vote for. So I went in there

1088
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,190
and they said, You are listed as
an independent. I said, Yes. Is

1089
01:00:14,190 --> 01:00:17,520
it then you can use the Democrat
or the independent ballot? Which

1090
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,360
one do you want? What can I
think and what about the

1091
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,920
Republican? I wanted to use that
ballot? And they said, no, no,

1092
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,880
the Republican Party that this
year they Oh, no, I did.

1093
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,790
I didn't know about this. Yeah,
I know, because there was this

1094
01:00:32,790 --> 01:00:37,380
big drive. For Ron Paul
supporters to the they had to

1095
01:00:37,380 --> 01:00:40,080
know that they absolutely had to
register as a Republican if they

1096
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,810
wanted to make sure that their
vote vote would be permitted and

1097
01:00:42,810 --> 01:00:43,860
or counted.

1098
01:00:44,430 --> 01:00:48,150
Right. So the Republicans have
essentially cut off these, you

1099
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:52,080
know, these free lance
independents from sticking their

1100
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:56,310
nose into their business. And I
was kind of surprised by it. So

1101
01:00:56,310 --> 01:00:59,280
I took this so I took the
Democrat ballot and voted for

1102
01:00:59,280 --> 01:00:59,820
Obama.

1103
01:01:01,170 --> 01:01:02,040
Oh, man.

1104
01:01:04,110 --> 01:01:07,410
So do you mind me ask you who
you're gonna vote for if you had

1105
01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:10,470
been allowed to vote for clearly
Republican candidate?

1106
01:01:11,099 --> 01:01:14,489
Well, I was either gonna vote
for a Ron Paul or as I was, I

1107
01:01:14,489 --> 01:01:17,189
was really feeling a strong
sense of throwing a wrench into

1108
01:01:17,189 --> 01:01:20,309
the works and voting for
Huckabee. No.

1109
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:22,560
Yeah, Ron Paul.

1110
01:01:23,130 --> 01:01:27,720
Huckabee is the funniest guy.
There was an open mic

1111
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,690
competition with all these
candidates, Huckabee would kick

1112
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,890
kick, everybody's through. He's
hilarious. Ron Paul

1113
01:01:34,890 --> 01:01:38,730
kind of sent a concession notice
out kind of, I'd say kind of,

1114
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,010
because, you know, he's not
pulling out of the race. And

1115
01:01:41,010 --> 01:01:43,350
he'll continue all the way
through. But obviously, they're

1116
01:01:43,350 --> 01:01:48,240
scaling back their campaign and
he also has a gubernatorial

1117
01:01:48,270 --> 01:01:53,340
race, I guess, you know, not
gubernatorial, congressional.

1118
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,200
So, you know, it's kind of like,
well, we're gonna pull back a

1119
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,800
little bit into but they but he
is gonna go all the way to the

1120
01:02:01,830 --> 01:02:08,040
to the convention. Yeah, um,
well, he has 40 or 50.

1121
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:08,700
Delegates.

1122
01:02:09,300 --> 01:02:10,290
Yeah, well, that's something

1123
01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:15,000
it's about the message, John,
it's not about the man.

1124
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,330
Yeah, well, the message is not
going anywhere, apparently.

1125
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,960
Unfortunately. Well, no, it's
not true. There's there's people

1126
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,000
who voted for him. So those
people who heard there's people

1127
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,030
who worked who are clued in and
will stay awake, you know, no

1128
01:02:27,030 --> 01:02:29,850
matter who becomes president
will will pay attention will

1129
01:02:29,850 --> 01:02:32,880
make noise it really is more
about an idea.

1130
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,490
Well, I'll tell you the one
thing that's going on here that

1131
01:02:35,490 --> 01:02:38,430
since you're in London, you're
not privy to it necessarily

1132
01:02:38,430 --> 01:02:41,070
unless you listen to some of
these guys on the internet but

1133
01:02:41,070 --> 01:02:45,510
the right wing talk show guys
are just there's some deal that

1134
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:48,060
wasn't done or somebody didn't
get bought off or there's

1135
01:02:48,060 --> 01:02:52,380
something screwy about the fact
that they hate McCain really

1136
01:02:53,130 --> 01:02:53,730
well this

1137
01:02:53,730 --> 01:02:56,790
of course is where all the all
the sentiment comes from that

1138
01:02:56,790 --> 01:03:00,570
the the Republicans you know
that that they don't agree with

1139
01:03:00,570 --> 01:03:02,700
McCain but it's not really the
party. It's the right wing talk

1140
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:03,210
guys.

1141
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,320
Right so right wing, the right
wing, the super the

1142
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,350
conservatives, they call them,
you know, they, they speak for

1143
01:03:10,350 --> 01:03:13,440
the conservatives, Rush
Limbaugh. I'm not sure that's

1144
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,990
true. But whatever the case is,
Rush Limbaugh is the one leading

1145
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:19,170
the way leading the charge. And
but all the other guy's pretty

1146
01:03:19,170 --> 01:03:23,340
much fallen in line. And it's
pretty interesting to listen to

1147
01:03:23,340 --> 01:03:26,190
it because I can't figure out.
You know, you think that Well,

1148
01:03:26,190 --> 01:03:28,410
maybe it's because of this
immigration bill that McCain

1149
01:03:28,410 --> 01:03:30,510
tried to push to get amnesty,
the rest of it. That's what

1150
01:03:30,510 --> 01:03:34,830
George Bush was for that they
voted for him. But that doesn't

1151
01:03:34,830 --> 01:03:37,860
count. They think he's a liberal
in sheep's clothing, or he talks

1152
01:03:37,860 --> 01:03:41,580
to Democrats too much. Or he's,
you know, he's too friendly to,

1153
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:46,200
you know, Democrats, I guess
he's a Democrat. Underneath it

1154
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,950
all they claim, but he's not I
don't see it. And I don't know,

1155
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:51,810
I think the whole thing somewhat
baffling.

1156
01:03:52,410 --> 01:03:55,830
Well, you're, you immediately
assumed someone hadn't been paid

1157
01:03:55,830 --> 01:03:58,080
off? What's kind of interesting,
as a state? Well, I

1158
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,540
mean, the subway that doesn't
have to have not to my money.

1159
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,720
I'm being like, you know,
somebody's having a meeting or

1160
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,300
somebody got stiffed or you
know, somebody said, Can I have

1161
01:04:06,300 --> 01:04:08,040
an appointment with an
individual, we can chat about

1162
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,990
what your policies are. And now
on my show,

1163
01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:13,260
man, come on my show and talk
with talk on my show. Yeah,

1164
01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:13,800
stuff like

1165
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,840
that. I mean, you know, it
doesn't take much to get

1166
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,490
somebody in broadcasting. Who's
been who's huge for millions of

1167
01:04:20,490 --> 01:04:23,580
listeners to get kind of, you
know, full of themselves.

1168
01:04:23,970 --> 01:04:27,330
Yeah, kind of like me. Yeah,
yeah. A perfect example. Yeah.

1169
01:04:27,330 --> 01:04:29,700
I'm a great example of that. The

1170
01:04:31,020 --> 01:04:31,950
casting gets that way.

1171
01:04:34,350 --> 01:04:36,690
All right, John, I think we've,
we've had it for this week.

1172
01:04:37,260 --> 01:04:40,080
Yeah, you got it. You got
anything else? No, I went

1173
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,680
through the whole list and said,
Oh, this was an actual list from

1174
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:44,520
notes you took

1175
01:04:45,420 --> 01:04:48,540
from last week? Yeah. But I put
them underneath the printer

1176
01:04:48,540 --> 01:04:50,760
here. So I wouldn't lose them
because that's typical,

1177
01:04:50,790 --> 01:04:53,580
typically what happens? And so I
have a list. There's a couple of

1178
01:04:53,580 --> 01:04:57,990
things on here like Green Public
Relations. I don't understand

1179
01:04:57,990 --> 01:05:00,240
what that means. Like, you know,
they're just typical. I don't

1180
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,290
know what I'm doing your ag
notes. Interesting benefits for

1181
01:05:04,290 --> 01:05:07,470
the AMEX black. I don't know.

1182
01:05:09,330 --> 01:05:14,160
All right. And that literally
wraps up another episode of no

1183
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,410
agenda coming to you from the
United Kingdom in the curry

1184
01:05:16,410 --> 01:05:17,790
manner. I'm Adam curry.

1185
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,240
And I'm John C. Dvorak in
Northern California, or another

1186
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,950
pod Show podcast.