There goes your career. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. It's
December 19 2009 time here gizmo nation media assassination
episode 159 This is no agenda as snow blankets half the globe and
and obvious overload of global warming. We're coming to you
live from the minimum security containment sell crock pot
command centre and get mo nation West San Francisco, California
in the morning. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's cold here too. I'm
John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill.
And it's so obvious. It's almost laughable, isn't it? Well, I
like the fact that Copenhagen apparently has as a blizzard.
That's the worst in their history is the worst since 1960.
Or something like that. I was looking
at New Jersey, record breaking snowfall for the Poway baby. I'm
back with that. Nicki just took the actual piece of paper I
wanted to talk about record breaking snowfall in New Jersey.
Most snow in 77 years, we've got Gitmo nation east, the
Netherlands London completely snowed in. It's like a
ludicrous, ludicrous
joke. It's a cosmic joke, and no doubt about it.
And the funny thing is people actually are saying, well, this
is all part of global warming, because the rains and the
reason. Yeah, what's this exactly what the planet is
clearly warming up.
I'm telling you, it's the Ice Age, we've got to go back to
what was there saying in the 70s There's an ice age coming and
trying to kill us. That's why they're pushing global warming,
because any action we take against global warming will
trigger the Ice Age.
The more you say these things, the more I think there's
actually to it. And I mini ice age was predicted in the 70s.
Yeah. And what would constitute an ice age, would that be two
degrees minus two degrees? Or that'd be just
who knows what I don't know. I'm not sure I had to go back and
read all the old literature from the 70s when they were
predicting the Ice Age. And I mean, I'm sure that part of it
supposed to be the reflectivity or lack of reflectivity the sun
up and down, you know, based on certain glacial phenomenon but
well, it's not it's an obvious question, you know, where you
know, people don't know that you know, of course if water is
scalding hot you can burn yourself but if it's also you
know, extremely cold you can you know, you can get you can freeze
yourself as well, you can free you can burn yourself,
like Burt Rutan, the mutton chop the space guy who's building
this the rocket ship that Branson is going to use to
commercialise space space travel. Like he said, he says
the biggest threat to humanity is not global warming, but an
ice age.
So just following the logic, if the if climate change is indeed,
let's just say that, you know, this, this whole two degrees
Celsius temperature, which is about what is that two degrees?
So a Centigrade? Would that be like almost 3.6? Yeah. So if you
would presume that plus, you know, to two degrees centigrade
will be just as bad as minus two degrees centigrade. I mean,
there's other species that count on that, that will have a
problem, right?
Wow. They're always there's always species that are gonna
have a problem, and you let them have a problem with us.
Well, I'll tell you one thing, then I'd rather have global
warming than global cooling. Yeah, but
you know, he's moved to Canada. Yeah, I
mean, you can get cooling anywhere you want. It's the
warming bit that's hard to find. It's really hard. It's hard to
find the nice you got to travel halfway around the globe in the
wintertime to find some warm place sucks. Give me some front
property here in San Francisco, which according to South
you can manage it. Yeah, so that'll some interesting news
this week. We do have an executive producer
Wait a minute, may I please list off the first the important
executive producers who really kicked some major ass last week.
Now I'm not quite sure. Chat Room handles and real names is
kind of difficult. But here's the following people sent me a
recording of the show last week after due to circumstances
completely within my control. The show was not recorded. Yeah.
We have loc. AKA Jim could also be nerdy dude. I don't know. We
have Wolfgang and
get their real names. And you ask them well, yeah,
but you know, not everyone wants a real name to be known. So I'm
saying Wolfgang, aka CES, we have Mike Shara Saraf, who
recorded the show today, or last week that is and I guess Randy,
okay, Randy Asher these four people sent me all versions of
the entire stream, the pre stream and the post show banter.
As they apparently were recording the programme and I'm
not quite sure why one would actually want to record the live
stream if the podcast comes out. But I'm not complaining.
People do that. Yeah, they got the equipment or they got the
software, they want to use it. And so they use it and then they
record and then they can listen to it or was downloaded to their
iPod to get the full experience as opposed to the the canned
experience that they get from after you edit the show. Well, I
don't I don't edit the show.
That's a little known fact,
I don't edit the show
I take well, you take the front and back off. Yeah, that's all I
do. Okay, well, they get to listen to the whole thing. I
don't know. I mean, people do that they've traditionally
there's listeners, throughout hit since the beginning of
radio, when they had the opportunity to record something
they wouldn't on transcriptions or on tape or whatever they had.
So that didn't didn't surprise me in the least I'm actually
surprised there were four people I thought it'd be maybe a
couple. But probably two more we didn't even
possible. There's a couple more, I will say a lot of people were
listening in Windows Media Player. And apparently, you can
just do a command line which is w m player dash dump. And
whatever you've as long as you haven't interrupted your playing
experience, it dumps out the entire file that you've been
listening to. It kind of caches it all. So anyway, all of you
will be listed this week as executive producers, special
executive producers, for no agenda. 168 for Without you this
would be no agenda. 157.
So the money man executive producer is who will be listed,
of course, prominently, is Lukas Hokanson, from Selkirk,
Manitoba, Canada, and $101.01.
And let's make a deal number playing the
prices right and the number. He says, Keep up the good work,
Adam and John, any chance you're keeping your eye on Canada? And
events going on here?
We try. We talked about your crazy copyright regulations on
the last show, right? What was he referring to anything in
particular,
I think he wants us to watch at this hour has 20 minute 22
minutes, or something like that we'll have to catch up with the
show. Or maybe that we should be running the parliaments where
they argue with each other call each other names, which is
always good for a laugh. I had something on I think there's
always something weird going on in Canada. I know that.
So first of all, let us thank profusely, Lucas Hopkinson, I'll
get the exact spelling from you later, John, because I want to
make sure I get these names spelled properly. And I have
screwed that up in the past, particularly with Steven gales
how to name spelled wrong. So thank you very much for being
the executive producer of no agenda, Episode 158, I can tell
you that this is something that you should consider putting on
your resume, it's really quite worth it because it looks good.
You get to put two names, who people can actually look up, you
know, so you're not gonna look like some fool just trying to
put some crazy names on there. Like he did something important
because you actually did an executive producer means you're
the real deal. You you actually put money into the show. And you
got some return for it that made you proud enough to put that on
your resume. There was he was talking about Canada and how the
how they yell at each other in Parliament. There was something
from the Irish parliament. I think I had it in the show notes
last week, where the guy actually tells someone to fuck
himself in Parliament.
Like yeah, Janie.
Yeah, no, it wasn't quite that bad. We'll have to look for it
later. But that we should do that in. All we get is like
oh, is a great gentleman from the state of Wisconsin, my my
esteemed colleague.
funny was that when the Al Franken Al Franken told Joe
Lieberman, no, you can't have any extra time. I don't know if
people caught this. Now, explain exactly how this works. Because
Lieberman, I guess was the chairman of a committee
libram was on the floor. And
Franken was the chairman of a committee. That's right. Yeah,
it
wasn't a committee this was the this was this the the Senate but
he but but but Frank and Frank and had the chair he was given
the, you know, the guy running the floor is the guy sitting in
their big chair and they rotate through all kinds of different
people.
You want to hear this clip for a second because I happen to have
Okay, so this is from a couple days ago.
Finally, our amendment clarifies that the purpose of the board is
not just to contain costs within Medicare, but to look more
broadly at health care spending outside of these publicly
supported programmes. It's very simple Firkin will provide an
opportunity for broad savings and health. He is getting
boring. Pretty much everybody in our country spoken for. I'm
sorry, the Senator has spoken for 10 minutes. I wonder if I
could ask unanimous consent for just an additional moment.
In my capacity, a senator from Minnesota, I object really
doesn't sound just like Stuart Smalley. They're
like, yeah, like the way you're the way Lehman goes, really.
But did you hear John McCain after that? Did you hear what he
had to say?
I never. I will ask unanimous consent, that the remainder of
my remarks be included in the record as if read without
objection. Thanks. Here comes
McCain. The senator from Arizona,
I just saw, I've been around here 20. Some years first time
I've seen a member denied the an extra minute or two to finish
his remarks.
He's literally flabbergasted. He's like, and Lieberman is an
independent, he's not Republican or Democrat. Right. And so he's
and McCain is standing up for
and I must say that I don't know what's happened in here in this
body, but I do nothing. I think it's wrong. And so I was fine
with me that it'd be 10 minutes. But I'll tell you, I've never
seen a member denied an extra minute or so as the chair just
did. It's a senator with a yield for that.
So what do you think the reasoning is behind this? I
mean, well, I
know what the right I mean, the back story is simple. For one
thing to get up in front because of the kind of the temporary
president of the Senate, which is again, a big sheet. He was
told by the party to be really strict about the time allowed to
so they could plough through the debate for this day, because
they want to actually ran this health care bill. They want to
get this thing down. So he was being really strict. 10 minutes
is up.
Unbelievable, though. Yeah.
Now now you have the clips from last week because I have
something that I gave you last week that dead because I would
because this kind of contradicts what, what McCain saying here.
Which one do you want? Well, what
did you have the last week list there last week
was Caltrans bridge, Howard Dean rent? One minute.
The White play one minute,
okay. Oh, I'm so glad. I'm
sorry. This is a committee meeting where they were the head
of the committee, a Democrat said, look out the Democrats get
five minutes to talk to Republicans, you get one minute,
and it was and it was grilling McChrystal, who by the way looks
a lot like Tigger.
Looks like he does look like Tigger, doesn't he? Yeah. Let's
let's wait a minute. Who gets five minutes? How can one one
part so I guess
that's a long winded excuse for beating and I have no idea I can
in fact, the chairman went on and on about one minute versus
five minutes and I could not make heads or tails of it. But
let's play this clip and this and then did send a copy of this
to McCain. Okay, the time of
the gentlelady has expired. The gentleman from California, Mr.
Rohrabacher is recognised for one minute. Thank you, Mr.
Chairman. Let me just note for the record that I am very
disturbed with a policy that is ended up with giving me one
minute to express my opinions and to ask questions. And that's
very important to hearing considering my background on
Afghanistan. So I'm sorry, I apologise to the two witnesses.
I'm going to say some things I just have to say quickly. Number
130 1000 troops more troops in Afghanistan means $30 billion
more a year. My experience in Afghanistan tells me for a small
portion of that we could buy the the allegiance we could earn the
goodwill through payments to tribal leaders and village
leaders throughout that country by
the way, that is an outstanding idea. What a concept it just
give them the 30 billion unfortunately that yeah, and no
one will die
without putting anybody at risk. Number one, I'd like your
reaction to that. Number two went General. Your statements
about Afghans fearing that they're malicious. is disturbing
to me. Dramatically disturbing. Malicious there are nothing more
than all the male children in their villages.
The time of the gentleman has expired the gentleman gentleman
from Virginia is recognised for five minutes
Shut up Sit down Who the hell do you think you are talking sense
idiots
so I don't know what McCain's talking about. If you're
wondering shut this guy off and went to five minutes to this
next person who would just rambled for saying nothing.
If you're wondering how we get such fantastic material and that
you never see this on television on the news or on the cable news
channels. Oh, Maybe once in a while, if you're really lucky,
it's because we do something really weird one we did. You
don't have to see. We watch C span so you don't have to. We
take care that work for you. Before you say it, John, I
agree.
It's that particular by government something even more
obscure than C span. But what was the military channel or
something? It was just, I just ran it. I
don't know, the military. You know, I've got to put some of
the I don't have all the right channels on my favourites.
Somehow I
don't use favourites. I just go through everything. Yeah. What
do you say you run into free speech TV and all the you know,
the stuff that's out there world. free speech TV is very
interesting, because it gives the the the knee jerk
progressive view of everything. And which is not the you know,
the liberal, the I noticed that I was watching. Chris Matthews
gone about this the term progressive, which has been
picked up by a segment of the Democrat liberal side of the
aisle. And he was baffled by the fact that people were using this
saying that liberals have, you know, gotten a bad reputation.
And it was good at term as any but the fact of the matter is
liberal is not what the progressives like to think of
themselves as, especially what is termed a NEO liberal, which
is the Clinton type of liberal, which is an internationalist,
progressives are not necessarily for a one world government.
So who would be considered a progressive?
Howard Dean would be a classic.
And what and you know, in you brought this up, and I for some
reason, I wasn't really tuned into it last week. But am I
mistaken? Or is there now a general movement in the
Democratic Party? Howard Dean, of course, being the chairman of
the DNC,
not anymore?
Former Chairman. Excuse me. Is there now a movement to find new
candidates to replace Obama in 2002? In 2012?
No, I haven't seen that. It's
I'm hearing like noises that they're prep that there's going
to be more candidates running for his seat than than ever
before, from the same
could take the form of the what happened to Lyndon Johnson
during that year when you had a warmonger as a president. And
you had to get rid of him. And so they start trying to run
Eugene McCarthy. And eventually, McGovern, Kennedy, Bobby
Kennedy.
I mean, yeah, exactly. And I'm here I'm hearing, you know, even
from left wing democratic voices, I'm hearing terms like
the third term of Bush, like, first of all, yeah, totally
agree. As, as it was interesting to note, in that huge defence
spending bill that passed the House, I might add, the baked
in, there was extension of the Patriot Act to February 2010.
You see, they, then they know they need to extend this thing
to continue to take away every single freedom we have, and to
be able to wiretap us and apply enhanced interrogation
techniques. But they but they know they want to go on
Christmas holiday. So they got no time to bullshit around.
We'll just, we'll just slip that in over here. And we'll just get
that to extended until we're back and rested from our, our
snow holiday. And it passes.
Well, the other thing is that they I think has a lot of these
guys annoyed is besides the fact that transcript there's no
transparency. Obama's seems to be a warm up. The only thing
they like about him is he's probe. He's a warmest. I mean,
they all think that's fantastic. But the rest of it, you know,
they and they don't like Bernanke. And the right doesn't
like Bernanke, but the people that want Bernanke back are
essentially the Republicans and Obama. Well, this got these guys
a little annoyed, too.
And he, he was confirmed. Bernanke continues as the
chairman of the Federal Reserve.
Can you play a clip I have about Bernanke. This is to me with
this is a Republican from Tennessee named Corker. I think
it says quarter on quarter, okay. And he, he gives the
rationale for why we should keep Bernanke. And I thought it was
the absolute stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
Because he looks cool. No, that's worse than that.
Better equipped to deal with business after that event than
before. My guess is that everybody in this in this Dyess
could say the same thing. It's not those things that occurred
during good times that make you strong. It's those things that
occur during bad times. Do I think that there's anybody,
anybody in this country that has been tested more? And has the
ability to be chairman of the Fed right now and Chairman
Bernanke. I don't think So I know there have been comments
about mistakes.
We're talking about. I say John Dvorak for Chairman of the Fed,
there's plenty of better candidates than BERNANKE. Well,
here's
what here's what that is a guy from Tennessee, by the way,
which is a big football basketball state. This here's
what his rationale is is Corker guy. He, his rationale is that
football coach has not won a game ever. Oh, so what better
coach to rehire? Because he's gone through so much
tribulations that nobody would know, bad times? This is good
experience, never to have won a game
does he say this? And
that's what his analogy amounts to. He never says it. But that's
what he's saying. Because he screwed up, he made nothing
about mistakes. He did nothing, right. Who could be better
equipped to take the job again? All right.
In other words, it's time to apply our simple formula. Our
formula is this. We go out for hit people in the mouth. Yeah,
that's the that's the whole formula that Bernanke holds as
well, right? Just go out hit people in the mouth and lose
games. So he's bound to win one somewhere. That's pretty
good guy should be voted out, folks. If you're in Tennessee,
what do you got this? What do you have a moron like this in
the office for? This again, the Republicans, you know, just
essentially not being useful.
Indeed. Hey, John, just so you know. Good news. Yeah. There's a
very large mothership. Which is about 21. I would say this for
the end of the show. No, no, because I'm excited about this.
It's right now it's about 1.5 million miles off the South
Pole. It's a 20 mile aircraft. And it's stationary right now.
And there's pictures of it NASA. Other organisation telescopes
have been monitoring it for eight months. It's a big, it's
blue. And it's beautiful. And it looks a bit like a cling on
ship, which is a bit disconcerting. But link in the
show notes at no agenda. show.com That looks like the
mothership is on its way.
Well, you know, they also found some some triangular thing over
some or other
like over the Kremlin. Like I didn't mention that two shows
ago. Well, I didn't know it was a big triangle. Yeah, it was
like a funnel. I told you that was like a triangular funnel
sucking up, you know, or blowing down? Who knows? Yeah. And of
course, that's the same show you said, Oh, this
show it's a Russian news reports. It's always been doing
this to keep the population under control. Bogus stories, it
looks pretty damn real to me. And it's like a look like a
photoshop job. If I ever saw one, when you
see 40 or 50 different pictures from independent sources, you've
got to wonder if they all share
these people personally,
John, just saying. Are you a UFO? denialist I'm a denialist.
denier? Are you a saviour denier? Is that what you are?
You know, one thing is very clear, John. The sciences and
NASA is even seeing it so the science is in.
Everyone agrees? Hell yeah. So the coping Hey, I got this. Uh,
this just came out in July and if I saw saw a copy of it, which
is what caused all the problems, the Copenhagen code of ethics.
Do we need any council agreed to employ the so called Copenhagen,
Copenhagen code of ethics in relation to cop 15, including
the climate summit for mayors. The Copenhagen Code of Ethics
encourages employees and politicians to refrain from
buying sex from prostitutes.
Especially when it's free, or was that
they I think it became free after this was released, right?
Ethics also encourages employees and politicians to refrain from
using any of the hotels, which provide contact to prostitutes,
and that tourist organisations refrain from advertising, escort
services, strip clubs and brothels. Now, if I'm not
mistaken, Denmark, prostitution is illegal, but brothels are
not.
Okay. Cool.
So wait, so what it has is ethical or unethical. I mean,
it's legal, it's legal. I mean, what's what's I don't get it.
I'm not understanding why they were they would put this out. Do
they think that prostitutes are you know, denialists and they're
gonna influence the attendees. It's a code of
ethics. You know, it's like you when you're hosting
the ethical breakdown here. What's unethical about it?
Taking part in a function that's purely legal society in which
it's legal.
So, well ethics is something different than laws. Yeah, I
agree with
that. But how is this unethical? Unethical is where you like, you
know, double deal or you screw somebody over or you or you lie
about global warming or you do something like that's unethical.
So you're fully up to numbers and then you deny that ever
happened. That that's unethical want to say something about that
going out and finding some cute blonde? Because you're bored,
you know, and taking part in illegal?
Is that why you go to see hookers because you're bored? I
don't know other people. Other people have other motives.
Go find out more. Let's go find a hoarder.
Speaking of ethics, the fantastic report I've been doing
some reading this is Congressional Research Service.
That's about 70 research organisations in the in the US
government. It's a report from July 20, titled waste, fraud and
abuse in agency Travel Card programmes. And so I want to say
so I've marked these up and these will be linked in the show
notes so you can download my marked up version. So just go to
the big black boxes read that. So this is what's happening in
our government. Amongst them and I'm quoting from the report
amongst some of the more egregious examples of card
misuse. So these are travel cards, we can basically book
travel on a credit card a special type of credit card,
identified by auditors or a Federal Aviation Administration,
an employee who charged $3,700 for laser eye surgery to his
Travelcard a Department of Defence employee
on the aeroplane to make it the garden.
No they can. Apparently you can spend it on it. You can use it
for anything you want, except like pawn shops and some some
vendors are blocked. A department of defence employee
who requested and received a reimbursement for 13 airline
tickets totaling almost $10,000 that he did not purchase,
Department of State employee who took an unauthorised trip to
Hawaii on a first class ticket. Auditors also determined that
certain agencies have not collected reimbursement for
millions of dollars worth of unused airline tickets,
actually, it's close to about $100 million. Now we scroll down
of it. Since enactment of the TT are a this is the travel and
transportation Reform Act of 1998. This is where they handed
out these cards because oh it'd be so much more accountable. The
dollar volume of travel card transactions has increased
increased 89% growing from four point 39 billion in 1999. To
eight point 28 billion in fiscal year 2008. The number of
transactions is almost doubled. And your I'm reading through
this entire report here to the Department of Defence over a
period of seven years purchase more than 100 mil just the
Department of Defence purchased over more than $100 million in
airline tickets that were not used. But they didn't take the
time to go and get the refunds. Why bother? And of course
everyone's travelling first class even though you're only
supposed to be travelling coach unless I love this. There was
some really funny funny little law in here. If
is that when the time things were such over six hours you can
do this you can do that well
more than 14 hours but here's here's only when no coach or
business class accommodations. Accommodations are available. Is
it necessary to accommodate a disability or when exceptional
quote security circumstances require it? Business class may
be used under the same circumstances as first class but
also when Coach class accommodations are available but
unsanitary. What
is that? What does that mean?
It's unsafe. It's dairy. These guys are crazy. It's always
unsanitary by definition. You're sitting there with a bunch of
cattle wheezing and coughing and puking on each other. It is
unsanitary. So of course they're all going to upgrade to first
not even upgrade they're buying first class. Yeah. Yeah. The
thing of course that is not mentioned anywhere. Is no one
ever gets disciplined. No one's ever ever laid off. No one's
ever fired. If you pull a scam like that, in any corporation if
you if someone did it Amelio that'd be fired. I fired people
for doing I fired people for for booking things on their personal
on the company credit card and then taking the gifts. I had one
guy he had vacuum cleaners toasters, flat screen TVs, he
was taken all the perks that of course our company property and
put them in his own house wedding ring. And had to fire
the guy.
But it was a wedding ring park
when you get it on your credit card points. So it was a
corporate card and but he was you it was in his name and he
was in charge of a couple of companies ago. He was in charge
Your travel for a big company like 700 employees. Well guess
what? There's a lot of travel going on and those perks build
up pretty quick and he was like chopping away at the visa store.
And, and worse when he got busted, he lied about it. Yeah,
but you get fired for that stuff. Oh, no, it's okay. Just
go get your eye laser surgery memo. Yeah, write a new research
report. Oh, we'll do better. That's unethical. That's the
That's the definition of unethical. Well, there you have
it. That's just nasty.
Take advantage of the situation. The government basically just
were stealing our money. Yes, exactly. That's taxpayer money.
We're talking about
why don't we open the gate for a second job to the gate to the
gate of climate.
So I have I've done some research, which I think we'll
we'll get into in a moment as we still have a couple of new
stories out of Copenhagen, Copenhagen, that we need to
discuss.
It should be pronounced Copenhagen, they made a big deal
about that. Because the Germans used to pronounce it Copenhagen
or something. I thought it is Copenhagen. Now it's Copenhagen
who says that? The Dutch I'm sorry, the Danish.
Those guys have Nora, check it out. I
mean, there's a big deal about the pronunciation of in
Copenhagen. This is a German pronunciation that harkens back
to World War Two, and they were very offended by it. Dude,
this is this is so not true. It's Nina Hogg and Copenhagen.
Everybody knows that.
So from one of our Danish listeners, I'm sure
we'd like to know the official Danish pronunciation. I would
say Copenhagen,
whatever. Well, that's because you're pronouncing it like a
like a, like a like a Dutch.
Well, I'm pronouncing it like our presidents pronouncing it.
The Do you want to go through President Obama's speech for a
couple minutes that he?
Well, if we're gonna go this route, I think we should begin
with something a little lighter and more entertaining. Okay.
I don't know. It's pretty funny.
It'll be funnier after you listen to this to Al Gore
himself. Oh, no. Don't tell Roy himself actually reading his own
piece of crap poem on the morning show and Harry Smith
apparently starts to cry.
When is this the stuff that we had reading last last week?
Yeah, but now this is directly to Harry Smith who do now sobs
Wait
a minute. So wait a minute, let me get this straight. So we had
Al Gore doing an impromptu quote reading backstage at some
television show.
Which I think he's he's doing it front and centre way so he's
actually sitting
there reciting his poetry. Yes and Harry Smith tears up
and for sounds like it
Okay, let's go one fan September. Soon a floating calm
disappears and midnight sun. vapours rise as fever settles on
an acid. See, Neptune's bones dissolve. Snow glides from the
mountain. Eyes father's floods for a season hard rain comes
quickly. Then dirt is parched. kindling is placed in the forest
for the lightning celebration. unknown creatures take their
leave on mourned horsemen ready their stirrups passion seeks
heroes and friends the bell of the city on the hill is wrong
the shepherd cries the hour of choosing has arrived. Here are
your tools.
And so glad you read that was really very hands you're asking
me I'm happy to hear it in your voice
Harry is amazing. Unbelievable. Dandy. Let me hear that last bit
again. He's like, Oh, I'm so glad you read that in your own
voice it it just not wouldn't have done justice. If Tom
Selleck had been reading it it just it just wouldn't have been
good enough
glad you read that. I was really I'm very happy I'm happy to hear
it in your house.
Oh, hold on John. It's gonna shoot myself after hearing that.
What is that? Is that last bit is that you laughing in the
background while
you will actually that was that was that I took that clip from
Fox. Yeah. And they were laughing at it in the
background.
Oh my god, I'm gonna put this as a separate bit in the no agenda
stream. And then maybe it'll work like this Hold on. Let me
see if I can make this work. This might sound good. Let's
just run the
thing has arrived. Here are your tools
Oh my God. Oh, the guy is what is that the definition of EGL
megalomania? Or Am I incorrect?
Just dead's pretty damn close.
That is outrageous.
I mean, you know it's a love First when it comes to Gore,
so what so what is the point of that? So I know that he's
pushing his book and of course he's pushing the entire agenda.
But what is the point of the poetry mean? Is that just
another reason to get on the
show his multi dimensionality Ah? Well, more than just a
blowhard. He's also a poet. He's sensitive.
He's more than just a dick. He's a poet. I'm gonna produce
something after the show for this. I like it is a really
good, I gotta write that down. And I think I'm gonna do my own
reading of it. It's just, it should I
should do with a laugh track.
Sound effects?
Oh, my goodness. Actually, yeah, maybe I'll do we should do
duelling. poetry readings. This poem.
Okay, let's see you couldn't do it better. You do a reading of
Al Gore's poetry as well. Yeah, she's into it.
We'll make it a negative thing.
This is what our producers should be doing this should be
sending in the best reading of Al Gore poetry because the man
is clearly a genius. He should be he should be. He should be a
Nobel Laureate, for crying outside. What's that? Huh? You
don't really. But anyway. Okay, now
let's move on to Obama. Well, hold
on a second, just a brief pitstop at Pelosi horse. She
says jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote
for jobs. So of course, we have Angela Merkel up there in
Copenhagen. Oh, but I'll bet. And don't forget that we've got
Joe Biden jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. They're not trying to
programme your brain or anything. So Pelosi goes up to
Copenhagen with 25 members of the House. And remember, on the
last show, we played free the bit where it was made very clear
that they had to ramrod through this defence spending bill,
which passed so that they could make the plane
and yes, the joke of it. Of course, they had to rush back in
in front of the blizzard coming in. Yeah.
The Global Warming front. And it was her 757 You're correct. It
was her 757. I've had that confirmed. And so here she is on
CNBC talking about why of course this Copenhagen agreement is so
incredibly important.
Yeah, Speaker Pelosi on the eve of the 2010 election says,
politicians have to convince average Americans that this deal
would be good for them too.
And people should be pleased with this for four reasons.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Yep, there you go.
For some reason that was stays on, on message.
But it's not just jobs. It's it's security, its energy
security. And the way they spin this is just unbelievable. You
know, its energy security because of our dependence upon
foreign oil, because we're so afraid of Canada. And, and it's
for green jobs. And and by the way, from a social engineering
standpoint, I will have to admit that it is an idea to create
this fake necessity for green jobs sectors. Of course, none of
it really pays off, you know, windmills just don't pay off as
well. So it would cost way too much to get too little energy
out. But that is a way to kickstart a new form of a common
economy, but they're really doing a half hearted
job. So it's just kind of jobs and how many green jobs are
there gonna be
some battery shit and stuff. But you know, the President does
exactly the same thing. So let's listen to you. We can't listen
to all 10 minutes of it, but it's linked in the show notes at
no agenda. show.com. Good morning. Good morning.
It is an honour for me to join this distinguished group of
leaders from nations around the world. We come here in
Copenhagen because climate change poses a grave and growing
danger.
He, first of all, he said Copenhagen. You're right. And
then he almost says clear and present day danger. But he
decided to go with grave
and Mary would get sued by Tom Clancy. To our people. All of
you would not be here. Unless you
I'll be dead. If you'd not be here, wait a minute, listen to
this lie
in danger to our people. All of you would not be here unless you
like me. were convinced that this dangerous real?
Didn't people like walk out? Aren't there? Isn't China saying
you know, we want more global warming because our rice will
will grow but with 30% more they want more co2? It's just not
true. They're not all there for the same reason. They're all
there to get a piece of the money pie. That's what they're
there for.
Well, the funny thing is, is that he introduces that which I
find peculiar. He introduces a moment of doubt, which I thought
was kind of The message I mean, instead of being, you know,
convinced that everybody's in agreement, you know, they all
agree in the sciences in. He says, you know, he suggests that
there's a debate. Well, hold
on because he does hit the sciences and listen,
not be here. Unless you like me. We're convinced that this danger
is real.
See that this? That's it? That's a moment of doubt. Well, you're
gonna invent that is he's not saying that, that the danger is
real. He's saying that you're that you're convinced the danger
is real. Oh, I
like that. We've tricked you. So it's not real, but you're
convinced it's real. Very good, John. Oh, words do matter, don't
they? So he's not really lying. He's in fact, he's being overly
honest. You're convinced that this hoax is real. That's why
you're here. Interesting. As we continue,
this is not fiction. It is science.
There we go. Hold on a second. The sciences.
Unchecked, climate change will pose unacceptable risks to our
security, our economies, and our planet.
I mean, how can I even respond to that anymore?
Well, yeah. So there's a I have a clip that's kinda like this. I
was watching MSN, MSNBC. People always moan and groan about Fox.
But MSNBC news, they actually have news most of the day they
narrowed it down. No, they don't. I was on that MSNBC news
show during the day, when I
suggested that, that Yeah. That goes your career.
Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson had been killed and they hung up
on me and no one ever responded, because no one watches the news
on MSNBC during
no they don't, but I did. Okay, and it's worse than Fox in terms
of going the other way. Okay. And I have a little clip here.
This is a little long, but it's, there's a guy on you know, I
don't like Shepard Smith, which I think it looks like an alien
of reptile. But their version of Shepard Smith is Dylan Ratigan.
Okay, and Dylan Ratigan really looks reptilian and he's an
unbelievable dick. But the worst part about it? Is that in this
particular Exchange, which I have here comes up with some
weird
ill logic. Oh, this guy. Yeah, no, he does. He does look
reptilian doesn't it?
Okay, but now that he's he's very unpleasant. I don't know
why anyway, he just, I just just, I just don't have any way
he's here he is being just a dick. With some weird,
weird logic around it over again. The United
States is prepared to work with other countries toward a goal.
This is this starts off with a clip from Hillary then there's
his black co anchor that's grilling some Republican who
thinks that the most of this is bogus. And then so they started
attacking him instead of you know, trying to get his
perspective. But at the beginning, they have this
Hillary clip Lucia was supposed to respond to and Hillary pulls
a fast one. If you listen to her, she's he talks about
Howard, what we're gonna do is we're gonna get together, we're
gonna do $100 billion, all the poor countries, but you really
listen to her word and carefully. It's like some sort
of 100 billion, but she never says that. We're going to cough
up anything, essentially joined 100 billion. That's a nebulous
number played from the beginning and listen to her. Her double
talk
is prepared to work with other countries toward a goal of
jointly mobilising $100 billion a year by 2020.
Oh, jointly mobilising doesn't mean anything. Doesn't mean
anything. I've got, I've got some mobilising in my pants
right now. It's not actually mobilised, jointly mobilising
to address the climate change needs of developing countries.
And here, I play that because this is about compromise. This
is about finding some middle ground with China, especially
with the United States. And again, you see this
administration tried to make some steps forward. And here
back at home. You have what some Democrats believe, again, the
party of no tearing at it before there's even anything on the
table blank. And I agree there can be something looked into
about the fudging of these numbers, all of that
fudging of the numbers. It's just fudging nothing that we
could be looking into maybe but I mean, come on. Let's move on.
Why can't a part of the conversation be from the
Republicans solutions and not just at least in that
solution solutions? We need solutions? Who is this woman?
I don't know. She's the black co anchor and I didn't get her
name.
But as we continue
already tearing it down, and there's no he'll?
Well, again, the Republican Party has offered solutions on a
myriad of issues, health care among those who now we're
talking about climate change. I think the concern is that we've
already seen what the Democrats proposal sort of look like,
because we've had this discussion about this cap and
trade bill, which we're now calling an energy tax and
national energy tax, which would have a tremendously negative
effect on jobs. And this would cost Americans an awful lot of
money. Let's be absolutely clear. Let's look we're talking
about a $15 trillion world economy that the economists say
the cap and trade would cost about $50 billion. Yes, it's a
lot of jobs. But that is a drop in the bucket compared to the
worldwide economy. Why is it difficult to understand? Well,
again, it may be just a few jobs to you, David, but it's a lot of
jobs for Americans that are currently out there looking for
work right now, where we have a very high unemployment rate, the
President's poll numbers are 46% approved, 40 47% approved, 46
disapprove, because we have problems with jobs in this
country right now. And we're talking about putting additional
burdens on the job markets, just not the time we're doing that
right now. But we're also talking about creating jobs in
the green sector if Congress can get its act together, but in any
case, more likely, and Brett Littlefield thank you both for
coming on today. We
appreciate that. So what does the worldwide economy have to do
with cap and trade that only will implement it just false
logic? Well, there's only $50 billion in assets. So what does
this drop in the bucket compared to to the size of the gun? I
mean, it's just like, there's no connection.
You know, this whole thing is so there's I'm analysing this from
a couple different directions. First of all, no one because you
because we can't pronounce his name. I'm convinced that's the
reason. No one is talking about Rajendra. k Pa Choudry.
Oh, that screwball looking ahead of the United Nations science,
they get the guy who looks like Osama bin Laden. No,
no, he doesn't look like Osama bin Laden. He looks like one of
the Geico cavemen
Yeah, actually, obnoxiously homeless.
So this guy he sits on boards of energy companies. He was there's
a couple of great articles.
This guy by the way, this guy people should check out his does
this get up in the morning look in the mirror and see that
straggly? I look good. And yeah to say that I look good, I mean
shave for God's sake.
So you have the Tata Energy Research Institute better known
Oh, those guys are i which is an a group out of India, which of
course is affiliated with Tata Steel.
The Tata, outsourcing and
everything shot Tata, Tata Tata, before you know, it gone before
the very eyes. So,
by the way, Hillary Clinton is associated with this company.
Everyone is in this press showery guy, he received
millions and millions in subsidies. And what happens is
they create these carbon credits out of all this bullshit from
the his outfit, the IPCC, which he of course, is the chair of
because of their whole Global Warming scam. And now what these
guys do is they figured out I mean, they're so smart, you have
to really read through these three articles listed under
climate change heading in the show notes. So they close a huge
chorus, which is a, which they bought from the Dutch, I think
they close a huge steelmaking plant in the UK. So they get the
equivalent of like 30 pounds per carbon credit. And then they can
open a new plant, which they get subsidised for in India. So
they're making money both ways because of this whole carbon
credits scam. And by the way, manufacturing in 1997 was almost
a quarter of Britain's economic output. And now it's less than
11%. And this guy is it he's on board with the whole programme
he's like, Okay, I'm going to take money from the same guys
are going to help get into this carbon credit scam. And he's on
boards of energy companies. There's, there's at least three
different articles about this guy. And of course, no one cares
because, you know, I can't pronounce the guy's name.
They don't care for other reasons, too. They've all bought
into this. Nobody sees the conflict of interest or cares
about it. What's the secondary shut down a steel mill? where's
the where's the net where's the net on this is shut down one
steel mill in England it takes some credits and then open
another one up in India. And of course India has not really
taken part in cap and trade to do don't take part in the trade,
but not the cap. Listen to
this push showery is also a strategic adviser to several
private investment and venture capital firms including Pegasus
Capital Advisors lp in New York. Severian ventures in the
Netherlands. Established by tender is holding part owned by
Philips and Houston based biotech firm glory oil. Thank
gloryhole we're proud showery serves on the board of advisors.
The guy isn't ever on every single board. He's like the
spider in the web. And he's up there like he's not an
independent scientist. No one getting it. Well, where's the
profiles on this guy? Where are we doing some investigative
research on this dude? Now we have to get that from World News
Daily. That's where I have to learn about this incredible
conflict of interest. Apparently, it's an outrage. And
this is the guy who's standing up there and along with Al Gore
reading poetry. And saying that it's clear the science is in,
there's nothing that can be done about it. We have to move, move,
move, we've got to give it $100 billion together. It's crazy
until it's absolutely crazy. And you will not hear us. You will
not hear this name pa showery uttered on any mainstream news
reporting? Nowhere and particularly not? I'll betcha.
If you were to look at any PBS programme sponsored by Philips,
who do sponsor a couple of these national treasures from time to
time, they're definitely not going to report on this guy.
Because they all inherently have a conflict of interest. The only
conflict of interest that we have on this show. We don't even
I can't even think of a conflict of interest. The only conflict
that I had the Shall I go pee before the show or hold it?
That's the only conflict for you, apparently. Yeah, that's
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She was actually a little bit further what she didn't say that
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that's a good point. Let me finish. Let me finish the point
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I'm going to put
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I think we should do some of these things for sure.
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Someone sent me a YouTube link Al Gore reading his poem at the
Copenhagen Copenhagen Climate Summit.
He does a dare to I don't know, loves his own poetry.
Wait a minute. This seems like a spoof one. Forget. It's Al Gore
standing in the snow storm.
So I think we should do a little by the way, again, there's no
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I think we should do a little Real News.
Well, can you hold on? Before we get to real news, I just want I
want before we close the gate, because I told you I did a
little bit of research.
Oh, the gates still open, the gate
is still wide open my friend. This is what it's all about.
Because I was able to obtain the latest version of the Copenhagen
Accord. And by the way, if you haven't seen this picture, it's
on the front page of the Financial Times. I love this
picture. It's all over the web as well. It is the let's see, we
have Gordon Brown, Angela Merkel, Barack Obama, they're
all sitting around like that, like they're at a PTA meeting in
a semi circle with chips and bottles of water. And this is
how our leaders apparently have to have this huge negotiation.
Sarkozy is sitting there. Have you seen this
picture? John? No. sent it to me. Oh, my gosh, okay,
I'll find it in a second. It will just Google it while I'm
telling the story. You have to see it's it's it's the it's the
the discussion they had to to get this deal together. So I'm
like, Alright, so they've got a deal. And it seems there's a
couple things, which I think I understand one of which they're,
they're attempting to propose a 2% tax on all flat, a global 2%
tax on all financial transactions. So if I were to
send money to my daughter, in the United Kingdom, then the
World Government will take 2% of that money as a tax and send it
to Africa to stop it from being warm. So I have an obvious
problem with that. But more importantly,
scan whether it's just stealing money anytime you walk outside,
yeah. Oh, please. So right at the top, so you know, so
everyone's like reading through the agreement. And you know,
like pointing out all the pointing, pointing all these
little pieces? Oh, here's what they're gonna do. They're No,
no, no, it's, it's much more intricate than that, right at
the top. Okay. And I learned this from from reading the
Lisbon Treaty. So the heads of state heads of government
ministers and other heads of delegation present at the United
Nations Climate Change Conference 2009 in Copenhagen,
here it comes in pursuit of the ultimate objective of the
convention, as stated in its Article Two, being guided by the
principles and provisions of the convention, noting the results
of work done by the two ad hoc ad hoc working groups, and
endorsing decision X cp 15. So right at the top, in pursuit of
the ultimate objective of the convention, as stated in its
Article Two, this is where you can stop reading the rest of the
document, just stop reading it, and go find the Convention,
which is the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate
Change from 1992. And in this article, to which I've also
outlined for you in my marked up versions of these PDFs,
objective, the ultimate objects 9092 John, the ultimate
objective of this convention, and any related legal
instruments that the Conference of the Parties may adopt is to
achieve in accordance with the relevant provisions of the
convention, stabilisation of greenhouse gas concentrations in
the atmosphere at a level that would prevent dangerous
anthropogenic, so they even talking about it there. That's
manmade interference with the climate system. Such a level
should be achieved within a timeframe sufficient to allow
ecosystems to adapt naturally to climate change, to ensure that
food production is not threatened, and to enable
economic development to proceed in a sustainable manner. So then
you start reading on it's like, okay, I want to find out more
about this, dude. Then you have to go look up conventions from
1989. They have created building blocks, John, it's like Legos
that you have to snap together. And it's no big deal. Okay, so
we don't get it done in Copenhagen. You know what We're
gonna meet in six months, I'm going to do it and that's why
they jump around from from place to place. So this is how it
worked with the Lisbon Treaty. Why do they call the Lisbon
Treaty? Because they went to a different place. And then it's
recognised as Oh, okay, right. That's the that's the Lisbon
Treaty. And I'm going through this and after like three hours,
I'm like, Oh, my God, you know, I see that they're building this
global government. But you have to go back to 1920, where it all
started with the League of Nations, which eventually became
along with the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Ri A,
which was the British version of the Council on Foreign
Relations. Then they create go on to create the United Nations,
and then UNESCO and the UN II D, then, of course, after the
world, we really, really saw the United Nations crop up, and then
they started moving around from place to place and here are the
conventions you have to follow. Hold on, it starts off with
oops. It's just crazy. I need some real help with this, by the
way, or buy me some time by donating. Okay, so Rio, well,
first, it was New York, then we were in Rio in 1992. Then we
moved the whole thing over where and they keep adding these
bills. So it's then the convention of Rio, then from
Rio, we went to Vienna. So that was the conference on human
rights, which was held in Vienna, and they keep adding
things to all these conventions and the reference all the way up
to this top document in Copenhagen. Then we went to
Vienna, then from Vienna, to ERG y from Arregui. to Cairo in
1994. We went from Cairo to Copenhagen in 1995, the UN World
Summit on social development, do you start to see the pattern how
it works? Then we went from Copenhagen, Hagen back to New
York, from New York to Beijing, all in 95. By the way, then, of
course, we were in San Francisco after the the Beijing conference
adjourned. San Francisco, September 27 1995. You were
here, John, I presume,
as far as I'm concerned, a quote
from Sam Kean. At that very convention, if we cut the
world's population by 90%, there'll be no economic or
ecological damage. That's right, then from San Francisco to
Istanbul in 1996. From a symbol to Geneva in the same year, and
then from Geneva, we finally get to global governance. This is
where it all starts with the liquid the convention of 1980
and 1989. So I've been I'm working. And that's it a couple
of websites, I'll put the links
to put together a timeline, could you jump from 1996 to
1989? No,
I went on 98, I'm sorry, not 8998. So I do have a document
with a timeline.
So Geneva and 98 is when they started talking about global
global governance. They've been talking about population control
from the get go
from that from the very beginning. And there's this guy
named Maurice Strong, who's really been the proponent of
this. And there's a couple links to
protect the wealth, the wealth of the super rich,
and it's, it's just tiring, let's just
kill everybody. And then I can have even more money. Yeah, and
control
over the rest of the slaves. That's truly what it is. So this
is one website, which is, which has a two pager and it has, it's
a great, it's really good, John, you'll enjoy this because it has
little reference notes everywhere. So you know, when
there's some quote from either a document or attributed to a
person, there's a little index number there, and you click on
it, and it takes you to it. It's called Global Governance, why
how and when it's a two pager, but it's long. And and I highly
recommend people read that. I've read it once. I'm going to
reread it again and again, until I have all of this stuff
hammered into my head. And so I really understand it. But this
Copenhagen thing, the fact that it's falling apart, yep, you
makes us feel kind of, you know, on the short term, like, oh,
okay, well, yeah, great. Hey, we got him this time, didn't we?
No, we didn't, because it's just going to do it again in six
months, and again, in six months after that, and they just
continue to add little bits and pieces. And all of these
documents are legal, and they all link back. It's like a big
hyperlink web, and they reference all these previous
conventions. So the put a little thing in this one, then they'll
reference back to that add a little bit on top and before you
know, it will I mean, I don't we may not even make it. I mean,
global governments may come and we may not even be alive, John,
but I think it's unstoppable. I think that just going to
continue just building bit.
The model of course, or the fractal is the way the EU was
ramrodded through through a public that didn't really want
it.
And that started in the after the Second World War.
And things take a while.
Yeah, so it took 5060 years but they got done to the global
governance, you can expect that to take a little bit longer. Of
course, you know, maybe I think 100 years will probably be good.
But that's it. You're exactly right. And 20 years ago,
everyone in the European Union or the European Commonwealth, it
was known at the time, or the European Economic Community.
Like yeah, this is good. You know, where we could be an
economic force. It's not a bad idea. Yeah, let's all kind of
share our data and you know what, yeah, we'll take that
global currency. Yeah. Me the European currency. It's a good
idea. I'm tired of those exchange rates. Of course Little
did they know that they were being hoodwinked into a central
bank of Europe and then all of a sudden oh, what Wait a minute,
we've got some Belgian dude and he's like the president and we
didn't elect them. How can we don't get a we? Yes, we can
change and hope Little Sarah, Sarah, but we didn't get the
party. We didn't get to throw a party for the dude. Let alone
elect him. So yes, that's what's taking place. Funny how you
don't learn that in school? Funny.
No, what you learn in school is that the UN is good. Yeah. Oh,
are you learn in school that the global government's a great
idea?
Yeah, it's fantastic. We've had our very own listeners call up
the seventh graders. Yeah, yeah, they're teaching the global
government is good in my school, and it's a one world currency is
going to rock. We can take our money anywhere. It's not gonna
matter, friends, it's all going to be an electronic money
just harping for one minute, I am getting a little pissed off
with this whole notion of you can only use credit or debit
cards to buy food on the aeroplane. What happened to take
in money? Have you
find it peculiar to they I know they started this up you can
they you know, I think I mean, the argument will maybe was,
well, the stewardesses are stealing the money, or it's too
dangerous or they can get mugged. I don't get it either.
Just or it's just inconvenient, because you have to go run back
and forth, get your change or get your change. You know, they
could have just said money, exact change, only that would
work. But no, they know they want you to use these cards are
ridiculously out of control. They don't want people using
cash. So I recommend everybody just use cash. In fact, my wife
noticed this interesting phenomenon, which is if you turn
instead of using cards or even checks, if you just use cash to
buy everything, you have a different take on what you
spend, you're actually seeing the cash go away. And so you're
a little more strict, you're just not buying everything like
a mad per. I mean, let's face it, this whole country went into
debt with credit cards, because if you just throw the card out
to deal with it later. Yeah,
this airline thing that happened overnight, all of a sudden, you
know, first of all, we have to pay for what they pass off as
food which is basically a box of starch and chemicals. And it's
nice that you can still get a ginger ale for free. But
everything else you've you have to pay for and then seven bucks
for the starch starch box. And you have to pay for it with your
with your cart. Which by the way, it takes just as long
because these terminals they have to tap out with a little
stylus, but what the hell is that? The tap in and out with a
stylus whilst well well cloud surfing in the aisle. It's
that's dangerous I tell you it's that's literally more dangerous
than then than anything else is having both their hands
preoccupied with a stylus on some antiquated system.
Your your your sound on Skype changed completely.
Oh boy, for the better or worse.
It sounds as though you went from FM radio to am radio. It's
not like it's distorted. It's just like, all of a sudden they
went from FM to am
I think Nikki is sending something. Are you sending an
email with pictures? Yeah.
She continues to do this during the show.
Because she doesn't care about the show. She doesn't give a
shit. She's like, you know, sound terrible. Hey, thanks. So
now I sound too good. Just quit your mail. Just quit the email
app for a second. So So Skype is actually pretty smart about that
it'll downgrade here at you get better now in a second. But we
uploading porn again. You really bad girl. So anyway, so we're
moving towards a society where you cannot use cash anymore.
It's highly discouraged. They want you to use your Visa card
and McDonald's
that way they can they can track you like a dog. Yeah, of course.
You can tell more about pride. Like I remember hearing a
lecture from the one time CEO of American Express. He says hey,
with our database of purchases, we can tell you having an
affair. We can too. So where are you, you know where you're where
you are at any given time we can do we can extract a lot of
information with just credit card receipt, no. And then
you have the travel passes in the Netherlands and the same
system implemented in the United Kingdom. Both fine upstanding
states of Gitmo nation east, which has an RFID card in it,
you just pass by and your money is automatically deducted. It's
linked to your debit account and know exactly where you're
travelling. And of course, not to mention that you can read
these RFID chips from other sensors as well, not just the
travel system, they've they're implementing GPS based black
boxes into cars, under the auspices of carbon taxes, but of
course, it'll completely be trackable. You go through the
airport TSA checkpoint, no longer is called security but a
checkpoint. And they're taking your entire biometrics right
there your biometric scan, which is traceable from satellites.
Da.
So, you're gonna have to reconnect because you now your
sound like you're from short range radio.
really isn't that bad.
Okay, hold on. Oh, hang on, actually quite funny, but I
don't think it's funny.
Oh, hang up, and you call me back within a second? Yeah.
Okay. All right. And John should be calling back and hopefully we
can get him back on. Okay, now I just have to connect to him.
There you go. There he is better. Yeah. Okay. So the other
real news. Oh, hold on a second. Now
got a couple of stories here. One of them I thought was kind
of amusing. A New Zealand Story for the New Zealanders. A
teenager flashing her breasts in the middle of a New Zealand
Road, paid for her drunken revelry when a distracted driver
ran into her. She okay. I guess we ended up I guess so. She
exposed herself to a couple of cars from a strip in the middle
of the road when the stock went awry. The if it was a US it was
in the US she'd now be a registered sex offender. Oh,
yeah. Track like dog in New Zealand. They think it's just
funny. I think it's funny, too. It is funny. And then we also
have I have the humorous side. Maybe I'll do a humorous clip
every once in a while. I got one here. From the David Letterman
Show, you can play it. Well,
according to a new poll, Tigers popularity has dropped to 33%.
And I'm surprised because if all the stories we're hearing are
true, let's just say half of the stories that we're hearing are
true. It seems to me that this guy was doing pretty well in the
polling. No.
That's our Tiger Woods story. All right. That's funny.
That definitely lightens up the mood a bit. He's on the cover of
Newsweek is today. Yeah, this week cover I didn't buy it.
Mickey. We had it in our hands. We were at Walgreens. And I saw
her look at me, because I knew she wanted to buy it. Because
she hasn't been activated yet by the CIA. I knew she wanted to
buy it. And she looked at me and I saw her look and she's like,
Oh, I'd better not buy this because that'd be
so strange. You read it online. Yeah, really? So my last bit of
humour is this one, which is, excuse me a news report from
Wisconsin. Apparently Tom Arnold, the actor was plastered
and in a Santa Claus outfit. And then he was just going up to
every little kid that he could find in this and it was a snow
snowy neighbourhood. I guess he didn't walk around, going up to
every little kid and saying, hey, you know where my reindeer
are. So it starts off with with some of the kids being
interviewed, including this one at the beginning. But here's the
report. It's under Tom.
Like alcohol so I knew isn't real Santa. Cuz Santa doesn't
drink alcohol.
Nine year old Katie Daugherty says the Santa that ended up in
her lawn was loud and had really dirty hands. He says he tried to
put his hat on her little sister six year old Zoey describes him
in one word drunk yelling at you see my reindeer? If you see my
reindeer you call me right away. The girl's mom called the police
instead,
he thought he was spreading good cheer. And you know, in some
lights he may have been but you know, I don't think that you
know, Mr. Arnold had any ill intent. I believe that, you
know, his level of intoxication probably impaired his judgement.
I think we'll have to deem that distraction. Oh.
I like the fact that a six year old little six year old girl can
describe it as drunk.
Just like my Daddy. He's drunk. I know what drunk means. Yes,
the news will be filled with that. Of course it has shades of
the Christmas movie with what's the guy's name? Who was married
to enjoy Billy
Bob. Yeah, where he played the bad Santa. Yeah.
What was the was it called the bad Santa. Well, that was a good
Movie
Shazam it was actually called something like that I haven't
looked it up.
It was pretty funny. Yeah, that is without a doubt the
distraction of the week. You know, John has been pretty quiet
because of course, it's dying down, but perhaps we should do.
Of course, this whole thing turns out to be an even bigger
joke than we thought it was going to be. And I've received,
you know, I receive a lot of interesting email from people
who came to be on the inside, as it were, with government and
certain agencies. And what I'm understanding is that the whole
swine flu thing was a red herring. And really, the entire
intent was to just to programme the population to take drugs
when the government tells you to, and that the next step
without a doubt is going to be the male contraceptive, either
vaccination or pill. And, of course, that's all part of the
world depopulation programme. But when it comes to swine flu,
there's still a number of things that are out there as as the fun
doesn't stop. The Detroit health department is fighting swine flu
with pepperoni. Yes, when kids return to school after the
holiday break, each class has the opportunity to get a free
pizza party if they sign up for the shots Oh, what a great idea.
Give the kid some pizza. It literally there's a picture
here. Get a shot get a pizza party for your class pizza party
for signing up. Let's say get this link that's phenomenal. I
mean, how how horrible can you be? You're getting into that
kind of stuff. But even worse perhaps in Pennsylvania one of
our producers sent sent this like this is just creepy. It's
like a fake Britney's. These are these are playing in theatres in
the cinema.
Yeah, no, I heard about these. I haven't seen one. There's no
There's a lot of them linked on the net.
Yeah, so I'll put these in the show notes. And I'll play just a
little bit of one of the songs. It starts off with a kid
sneezing in front of his locker at school. And this is like fake
Britney Spears chick who starts singing and dancing in the
hallway. And then they have the without a doubt the token
African American kid who raps in the song I mean it's so it's
creepy
I wash my hands and I scrub everything that's fine and kill
all the germs around me. I don't tell touch for five days, five
days you're not gonna get sick
you're not gonna get sick from me. Five days
from you.
creepiest thing I've ever seen John Davies bad. Highness crap.
I don't know it's one thing to a few things like the show you
were saying? Yes many times
with the African American kid and get the hip hop vibe on the
hip hop tip. It's the same people did that Obama video.
Remember the kids in the classroom?
Yeah, it was done by a Hollywood producer.
This is done by Hollywood people. This is to professional
are these guys are ridiculous. And they should be they should
think about their. They should retire. And then
there's a watch for this one. You'll see this one. This guy
has been around before but they're going to bring him back.
This will help with the HPV virus. Take a look at this
picture. John. This is a picture of tree man. I don't know if you
remember tree man. Yeah, vaguely. Okay, DD Kasara
Indonesian man known to the world as tree man is once again
battling woody growths that are threatening to cover his body.
And what is this woody growth? Well, of course, it's an extreme
case of the sexually transmitted disease, Human Papilloma Virus
HPV. That's right. If only he had gotten the shot, he wouldn't
turn into a tree. And the whole story HPV is one
that probably I tell you the problem with this as a
propagandist at gunpoint is that it's too gruesome nobody nobody
even wants to see pictures of this guy.
Do you mean you mean they've jumped the shark with this one?
Is that what you're Yeah, it's just not gonna work. Yeah. But
it's a valiant try. Good going guys. I appreciate the dry
well, if you look where we're at in the swine flu minute you go
to last week's or the last shows clips and find the one about the
mask because there's there's two memes that are floating around
out there that I just spotted in the last you know, I This one's
not new. Do but then then I have another one I want to mention,
but this one's got the meme in it. It's the one about the swine
flu masks.
Chief Jack O'Connell announced that two federal grants are
paying for 23 million masks and gloves for California schools.
Pleasanton unified just received its shipment this week. School
officials say they will use them on a case by case basis. It's
another level of protection for everybody. And it certainly
raises people's comfort levels. I guess that's good.
I mean, you know, because they could spread it to other kids.
So yeah, I mean, I'm glad they're doing something.
Schools encourage kids to wash their hands frequently and use
sanitizers and health care workers hope parents are
proactive in getting their children vaccinated. Even though
the Centres for Disease Control says fewer states are reporting
widespread h1 in one cases, physicians say it's likely there
could be a spike in January. They want to remind parents that
if a child has received the h1 and one vaccine and is under 10
years old, the child needs to get a second booster shot 21
days later, a booster
a booster shot,
the meme is that there's gonna be a January 2 waves gonna
return the second wave woohoo, the second wave. So I get that.
I hear a lot of that. But the other one, by the way, which has
to do with healthcare net though swine flu that you keep running
into and your friend that that New York congressman who I saw
on any wiener Wiener, he actually said it and when he
said that, because I'd heard it two or three times, but I didn't
think much about so as he says, Oh, it's a meme that the
Democrats are using to push the bills through. And by the way,
some of the progressives, the most extreme left wingers
believe that Lieberman by coming in and getting all the attention
he had, actually, he's actually doing Obama's job because they
really want this to be just a pro insurance company mill,
which is what it is because you have to not just force people
take out insurance, but the Wiener comment, and then like I
said, I've heard it before you're gonna start hearing it.
It's don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Oh, wow.
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
I've heard three times so far.
So in other words, hey, we're doing it's not perfect. It's not
great, but at least it's It's good. Is that? Is that what that
is?
Yeah, exactly. Geez.
Well, there's a couple things we haven't touched on, John, which
I do deem important. I'm very confused about what happened in
Yemen. Have you been following this?
I haven't been following it. Because there's not much. I
mean, I haven't found any any source of follow.
Well, so I have two reports, one from ABC News. And another one
from Reuters. So let me read you the Reuters one first. So
Reuters you would say is a reputable wire service. Amen.
Security forces backed by warplanes killed up to 30 al
Qaeda militants on Thursday, the government announced and a
security source said the operations had foiled a planned
series of suicide bombings. According to the government webs
website, Yemeni forces, Yemeni forces get a number of al Qaeda
targets including a training centre in the southern provinces
ABI on this led to the killing of for 24 to 30 militants, what
kind of numbers that 24 could have been 30, including
foreigners, without giving their nationality security source told
Reuters that altogether 34 al Qaeda militants have been killed
17 arrested in the OB Yan and our hub district, north of the
capital of Santa, but then on ABC News, on orders from
President Barack Obama, the US military launched cruise
missiles early Thursday against two suspected al Qaeda sites in
Yemen. So well, well, who did it? Who's what are we doing
shooting cruise missiles in Yemen? is do we have? Do we have
we declared war on Yemen?
No. But you know, there's a couple of things going on with
the Amon. One is, of course, it's a traditional location for
Bin Laden, from what people think is dead now, by the way.
That's where he's goes, especially South Yemen. But one
of the things that nobody wants to talk about and the fact that
we're in maybe the potential that were in gaming in the first
place, and you can look this up on Google, is that EA men in the
80s they discovered oil there now they seem to have found even
more and they found the natural natural gas field. You don't
think that has anything to do with it? Oh, look over here.
Nothing to see. Look at that. Yeah, couldn't be that couldn't
be coincidence. Couldn't be any type of coincidence. I think
not.
And by the way, play my coincidence clip. I'm thinking
that people are listening to this show. Listen to this. It's
Friday,
for Boston's five losses the season have come on Fridays
coincidence? I'd like to think Not, not all for losses also at
home buddy when the Celtics wanted defences allowed to fail
is that
I was watching ESPN and they go coincidence? I think not. I said
I gotta go I gotta clip that
this show really is reaching people in the unknown, isn't it?
Well, I think
a lot of it is it's subtext, I think our I think our message
gets out, we have listeners who listen to the show, obviously
enthusiastic and, and they're, you know, on the same wavelength
we're on, and they slip this stuff out. And it just kind of
like, you know, dropping a rock in a pond yet does you know kind
of wave lets it go out, and then it kind of bounces back. And
that was an example of a bouncing back. And I'm sure that
they've never listened to the show ever.
Here's the campaign that we really need, though. I mean,
there's all these shows, even C span that morning show we can
call up on the Democratic the Republican or the independent
dependent line. That's probably the easiest one because they've
got like in terms of screeners, but any show, particularly some
of these Fox guys who have radio shows, call the shows up. And
when you get on the air, you know, you got to sound
intelligent, which you can because you know, you obviously
understand what's going on because you listen to no agenda,
but then slip in in the morning. Just slip that in no agenda
show.com.
You know, I knew I would rather have them slip in the no agenda
show.com rather than in the morning, but yeah, people should
call their local talk shows and they should mention no agenda,
and give us some publicity and no agenda show.com is easy
enough to say and get out. Before they stop you. And are
you then you'd have to slip it in catches you Well, I was
listening to no agenda show.com The other day in the morning, in
the morning, trying to get the in the morning.
Extra points, extra points if you slip in in the morning. And
if you even get into coincidence, I think not well,
then your executive producer. I mean, totally nailed it. Yeah,
Rachel Maddow was snapped, talking to Fox News Chief Roger
Ailes Tuesday night at the White House Christmas party.
They were all there. I know, there's the great enemy that
that Obama says do not watch Fox and Manuel Ailes is invited to
the party, of course.
So they were spotted together. There's a picture of the two of
them. Yeah. And then, of course, Huffington Post said, Hey, what
did you guys talk about? And she said, Well, I've never been to a
White House Party before. So I'm wet that I was invited. But I'm
not sure about protocol. So I'm guessing it would be a breach of
protocol to kiss and tell. But you're a journalist. Here
journalists, you're supposed to cover the White House, either
don't go or talk about it. This is just not and then to be
talking to Roger Ailes, who is the that he is the man behind
Fox News. But you're right. You know, the Obama that's so funny.
I hadn't even had any thought about that deal. But the entire
Even Obama said, oh, you know, Fox News, not really news. Now,
this is bullshit. You know, we should deem them not news, we
should, you know, they should be fall under different rules,
because they're not really bringing news and oh, hey, hey,
Roger, come on over the Christmas party. Yeah, come on
over. Come on over hang out.
Yeah. And as you mentioned, yeah, Rachel should either be
covering it or she shouldn't be talking about it. She shouldn't
be. What kind of journalist goes in. This is like the non
disclosures that I'm always complaining about, essentially,
she can't even sign one. But she's acting like she did. Maybe
she did. You know, I never thought about it. But it's
possible that they make you sign a nondisclosure before you go
into departments. Like, why not? That could be you know, what?
Somebody could tell us? Yeah, somebody should.
As a part of, I think Eric actually pointed this out to me
a couple of changes that I just want you to be aware of that. I
believe these these might have been slipped into the whoops,
did that site just break was too bad? I believe some of these
might have been slipped into the defence spending bill, but
apparently, and looks like this crap. Okay. I know what the
subtext is. federal websites will now be using cookies to
track you. That has been approved. Yeah. So, you know,
combine that with Google's recent announcement that even if
you're logged out, they will be tracking you for 180 days with a
cookie? Coincidence? I think not. People, I think
people and we did get a response from one of our listeners,
producers, too, that has a cookie killer that's aimed at
these particular kinds of cookies. I would hope he's
listening now and gets a hold of me again, because his mail was
buried in the box somewhere.
Okay, so we were I think that's kind of the problem is because
cookies, obviously can be very handy. For a number of things.
Yeah,
they're very handy but they shouldn't use for tracking you
like a dog. particularly not from the
federal websites. I mean, what can I just view that information
in some version of anonymity? Everything got my IP address
anyway. But yeah, that will be nice. Now we're gonna have to
track you with cookies. So, I think John that we should have
the Nobel laureate play us out for the Sunday service because
there's nothing as beautiful as hearing the man saying it in his
own voice his own words. Here are no agenda.
One fan September soon a floating continent disappears
and midnight sun. vapours rise as fever settles on acid See,
Neptune's bones dissolve. Snow glides from the mountain. Eyes
father's floods for a season hard rain comes quickly. Then
dirt is parched. kindling is placed in the forest for the
lightning celebration. unknown creatures take their leave on
mourned horsemen ready their stirrups passion seeks heroes
and friends the bell of the city on the hill is wrong the
shepherd cries the hour of choosing has arrived. Here are
your tools.
I think I have to say that horsemen ready there stirrups
it's just bone chilling. John.
What he says this The moment of something as arrived something
is all over the oceans a pile of acid and everyone's dead. Yeah.
Vision is just a shoot yourself. I mean, I'm not getting it.
I think we need to dissect the death poem that Al Gore is
reading and do an analysis and maybe we should have a do a
coffee house reading. I think we should or a couple of people get
together and it's it's not a bad idea.
I think one you know, it'd be like the vagina monologue where
one person reads one eye, and one person reads another line.
Monologues.
The Al Gore monologues nice. This is beautiful. Hey, just so
y'all know we will be doing a show as regularly scheduled on
Thursday. The Night Before Christmas. Boy, it wouldn't be
nice to have a night on the night before Christmas, John?
Ooh, the night night before the night before Christmas. I think
we could both support that couldn't wait. Yeah, that'd be
good. No agenda show.com dvorak.org/blog. The
shownotes of course working perfectly now at no agenda
show.com. And if you always want to find a backup, you can find
it@curry.com or dvorak.org/blog. And so then what is our show
after that? It'll be on Sunday. Is that a? Are we then close to
the new year? What is well,
I'd have to look at the calendar. But I think it's a few
days away from New Year's I mean to do it would be the next
Thursday that we'd have the New Year's show.
Let's see. Right. Oh, you're right. It would be the Yeah, the
31st. So we're hitting it. And guess what we're here. We'll
continue to do the show. We're not going to break for any fake
holidays.
You only as long as Adams recording the show. We're here.
Hold on. Let me check. Yes, we're good. We're good. Coming
to you from the minimum security containment cell, which houses
the crackpot command centre where it has been ominously
quiet outside. I don't know where they are in the demolition
of this project. Maybe they stopped. Maybe they ran out of
money.
I think they're probably just taking two weeks off in the
morning.
I'm Adam curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley where the sun has now arrived,
which should warm things up, which is a good thing. I'm John
C. Dvorak.
We will talk to you again on the night before Christmas. And
we're looking for that night night before Christmas right
here on no agenda.