Does it require you have to go to a seminar where you have to
sit down for hours and not take a leak? Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's November 8 2009. Time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 146. This is no agenda. We're looking over
here while you're looking over there and coming to you from the
minimum security containment selling get one nation West, San
Francisco, California in the morning. I'm Adam curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill.
Thanks, John. I, I always like a little surprise
to see if you're quick on the draw. Wow, not bad. No, actually
hit it. Okay. So for the the, the effect that you made a sound
Yeah, that I went.
So Taylor Swift was on Saturday Night Live, apparently last
night. We missed it. You know, I
was gonna I was gonna tell you. I was actually going to be one
of my first topics for this morning. Yesterday, or last
night, I was looking at trending topics on Twitter, which is kind
of I liked that a lot. Because it's kind of like a pulse of the
nation of the universe, what people are talking about. And so
of course, so a couple of interesting things have
happened. Yes, they a monumental bill was passed in, in the
Senate and I looked at the trending topics, topics. I'm
going from the top of the list down top, the list is three
words after sex. Then there's SNL, Taylor Swift, and then
healthcare reform. It's just like, I'm so happy. We have our
priorities completely set straight here.
Yeah, I think we nailed it.
So yeah, I didn't see it. Obviously. I did. I did watch
some of the some of the debate. Yes. Actually, quite a lot of
the debate yesterday.
It was dreadful. Yeah, that's
Mickey's hurt. We had to go at where they went to a benefit
dinner last night and Mickey's hairdresser will came in. And
they're like, cool. What is this boring stuff? You're watching?
Are these old guys being so boring? today? Yeah, that's your
government at work, dude.
It wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't about hairdressers.
It was pretty boring. Actually. Yeah,
no, it was because these this debate has already taken place.
I mean, just just a rerun. There was these two guys I have I
didn't send you this clip. But these these two guys. It was
amazing was two Republicans. It was 10pm Eastern Time and they
had the whole house to themselves. And they get some
you know, some board guy had to stay there with his gavel. What
time did it end? But this was something else. This was this. I
don't know what time it ended. I don't know. Somebody, you know,
I didn't watch
any of the coverage. So I was personally I was enthralled. I'm
like, oh, man, it's so interesting how this is
happening. And people just saying they're gone. I didn't
gain. Yes. No deep too deep nap, man. And it's like, and then
they vote.
I don't get it. That's weird. Yeah, well, the Yeah, I don't
know. We're gonna have to let it shake out. Go over this bill.
They still have to, you know, still not the final.
Oh, okay. All right. First of all, before we move on another
muscle Who is today's executive producer John?
Yes. Today's executive producer, and thanks for reminding me is
the inimitable James Brisco. Our as he likes to put it, our one
listener on Gitmo Island, Long Island, Gitmo, Long Island,
okay, long Gitmo Island what everyone calling the little town
of Bayshore and he gave us 233 63 With a rather long
explanation, which I can read now or later. And I think I'll
save it for the rundown of the other contributors. But anyway,
but let's
let's thank the thank him very much for being this episode's
executive producer. You can put that on your resume as executive
producer of no agenda episode 146 starring John C. Dvorak and
Adam curry in a cast of 1000s it might get your work
he's given us money before it seems to me that he doesn't need
work. really generous guy, but he's apparently a he's something
of I don't want to disparage anybody but he's something of a
nerd geek. Because he has a obviously is he has an
explanation for this, this automount that
well, we'll get we'll get to it later on. defies all logic but
anyway, and I also want to thank or maybe not just thing but also
well thank and inform people have donated to this show. Last
night I took $1,000 of no agenda donations and gave that to the
inter plast Foundation. So they're very happy with that.
Let's enter plastics plain
into plastic is a very interesting organization.
They've been around for 40 years. And what they do is in
mainly in third world countries, it's it's a, it's a very, it's
funny, it's an organization where plastic surgeons who don't
only just do Hollywood wives, believe it or not, you know,
there are some, like, you know, people who actually need
corrective surgery because they look pretty messed up. They go
to third world countries, and they do they perform surgeries
on children who have cleft lips and burns, particularly in, in
many countries in Africa. If, if you're born with a cleft lip,
then you you have your everyone has the same name if they have a
cleft lip, which is a joke, and that means a cursed by God. And
so these kids can't go to school, they have no future,
etc. And so they perform about I think, 6000 surgeries a year.
And I like the organization because there's no bullshit, you
know, there's no, there's no, they do a dinner like this. And
it's all about raising money. There's no show. It's just, you
know, boom here, the people who are doing the work, and I would
raise the $730,000 last night. It's pretty outstanding. Yeah,
it was more than they raised last year, even in this economy,
and was good. I like it. Mickey's foundation actually
gave a whole shitload of money. She had one of those giant
checks.
That's the chat you guys use anyway.
Yeah, those really big jacks. No, but she really had an
enlarged check, which of course, I had to carry around all night.
So we're Foundation gave out a huge amount of money. It was
fun, but anyway, I thought I'd take some of the no agenda money
and put it towards that.
Good. So what's and you didn't see Taylor so did you get to
watch it?
So unfortunately, I was out doing good John. I'm sorry. I
missed Taylor Swift.
These kids. You have a VCR? Yeah, your DVR
car? No, you have the VCR. I however, has high cutting edge
technology. Yeah,
you still have cutting edge technology.
I don't want to watch Taylor Swift. I don't I don't like her.
I have to admit the songs are kind of cute when you hear him
on the radio. I listen to the wolf 95.7 FM it's the Wolf Wolf
that's the new country station has
I never heard of it.
Oh, it's a great station. It's almost like 80s rock music
because that's where all the all the rockers when is the
country's the only radio that will still play. Kind of rock
and roll. Well, that's what countries do.
You did you did you see v?
You mean the series? Yeah, I
just started this week. Oh, is
it a new series? It's back. Ah,
we're taking bets on whether you actually saw it.
I know I remember years ago
I got I made a dub of the show and
who was taking bets who is taking bets
everybody because it's about it's essentially it's like a
metaphor for for Obama. They come down talking about hope and
health care and it says we're gonna bring you universal health
care. I mean, the fact you
err on
it was that it's on ABC I can't wait. These aliens are all
lizards by the way.
But this but this is I thought this is already this has been on
television a decade ago did
I mean am I wrong? 20 years tried 20 years ago. Is
it the same series? Or is that a new version?
It's a new version completely built from scratch and it's a
different cause sorry, John,
I'm watching C span trying to get some information about
what's happening with the country and you're watching V
I went out of my way to just double copy so anyway I have a
copy for you can watch it later and you're good but I'm not
going to watch it sucks Okay, so let's start with that.
Okay, well then why why do you want me to watch it if it's
don't don't don't get too much of
propaganda. That's very interesting. I think you get a
kick out of it. There's a big debate going online about
whether or not this is a pro bomb or anti Obama series.
Okay, I'm sorry. I'm not in touch. I'm out there in the
world is
David Icke lizard is David
Icke, not iKey the reptiles is not lizards, it's reptiles
erupts reptilian
or the MILFy MILFy reptiles.
So there's that I like it. I like it. So I win the batch
anyway. So
how much did you win
$5,000
Hold on, let me mark that. That'll be good for the
beginning of the show. I just gotta keep marking stuff all
right.
There we go. We got our main topics we can go we can do a
little Iraqi Freedom. There's a new government report. I just
sent you a copy of it PDF fooling around. Operation Iraqi
Freedom, preliminary observations on DoD planning for
the drawdown of US forces from Iraq, this is from the GAO, the
General Accounting Office. Hold on, I'm
bringing it up right now. And this came out when I love it. I
love reading these reports,
ya know, these reports are good. They're very good. They're very
well done. This came out on November 2. And it's all about
the draw down. Nobody courses reporting on this.
I mean, why are you why? Why were journalists actually read
this? I mean, that seems like actual work.
It is work, in fact, but the listeners will have access to it
will one of the twitterers by the way sent this in? And people
can read it at their leisure?
Have you read it yet? By the way, this
is something interesting to me, you know, you read these
newspapers, and they'll talk about this report. But they'll
never give you a link
to ever a Link never ever a link. It's not hard to find good
thing, you know, thanks to Google. But I totally agree.
It's even I was reading the New York Times this morning online,
because I wanted to know, to catch up on what had happened
with the vote for the it's 3692. I think it's hr 36? Or is it
3692 or 3962, whatever the health care bill, the making
shit better for Americans. And exactly the same thing. There's
not even a link to the actual to the actual bill, you don't have
to go googling that. It's like the New York Times doesn't even
provide that link. It seems lame.
I know where it comes from. I've been there and done that. It's
these editors and the guys who run these things. They don't
know how online works, which is why they're all going out of
business. Oh, no. Once they leave the site, they'll never
they'll never
come back. Do you remember when and I'm talking 9596? We the
time like the company had then you know, we talk with the
Tribune Company in Chicago and New York Times. And we were
trying to tell them like, you know, your lunch is going to be
eaten. In fact, it's happening right in front of you. And
mainly, it's your classifieds. But oh yeah, maybe you'd like to
get some real news stuff working online. And they didn't have
internet access. They had this proprietary system with these
really funky terminals. Do you remember that?
Guy? Yeah, I could tell you the name of those things in a
minute. You probably have one still. I never used those
things. I always used regular computers. And I from even in
the 80s I always would find the for news. I was writing for the
examiner. I was also writing for a bunch of computers, always
find the IT guy and say how can I just inject my stuff right
into the system? And they always gave me a code and a phone
number. And I was I've been filing electronically since
1980.
Oh, modem in?
Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Then you needed a bunch of screwball
codes, that they tell you what they weren't like how you end a
paragraph he had to put your hands of course, you had to open
a
terminal session. First of all, after you initiated your slip or
PPP connection. Do you remember, do you remember when we used to
have to log into the internet, you'd have to dial in?
This is pre internet, this is
what you were doing. But I remember early days of internet,
you had to dial in, you got to Unix shell account, and then you
had to initiate the slip connection. And then you had to
start your stack. It's gotten so much better. Yeah. But you had
say, Yeah, but anyway, so they were on proprietary systems well
into the late 90s. I didn't even have internet access at these
companies. And you're absolutely right. Oh, don't put any links,
because I'll leave the site. Whereas what we found out is
that if you actually put links in your, on your weblog, etc,
and you send people away, that's when they actually do come back,
like, Hey, this is the place that will find interesting shit
for me to look at. Right jaw. Links are the currency of the
internet.
I don't get it, I edit to this day, the fact that you're still
reading the New York Times, you know, the online you some of the
online writers on the New York Times managed to get a lot of
links and that link away, but the mainstream reporters, they,
you know, they don't do it there. Why should I put a link,
I'm just, I'm gonna report on it, I am going to say what I
think of it, and they will give some
information. No one else needs to have access to
this notion that you're a gateway to the information. It's
like, you know, is ridiculous when people can you know, see
these things for themselves. I always amused by and no reports.
You know, they quote from the report and they do this and then
they never give you the report to look at. They can be taking
stuff out of context for all you know, and often
they are. Yeah, it's more fun. It's an interpretation.
Absolutely. Do you remember the name of the terminal yet just
for prosperity stake?
Well, they there was one German isn't the main one but there was
also a thing called the bubble terminal, which is the which was
I think the remote was the take on the road. But I'm thinking of
what it's like was a whole system. And I'm get it's ghetto
come to me probably before the end of the show. Okay,
so yeah, we could talk about a number of things. We don't have
to dive straight into headlines necessarily. I wanted to ask you
one thing before we actually get started with with the Real News.
Have you heard of the GTD system? Getting Things Done?
Is this another book you just read? No, I didn't read the
book.
It does stem from a book. But it's a way of organizing time
management, which I've read all the books, you know, the, you
know, seven tips from 5 million Highly successful people, you
know, how to organize what color is my parachute, all that crap.
But this one, I kept reading about GTD. And in fact, I was
reading about it in the, in the, in all these app stores for the
G phone and the iPhone. And like, you know, what, is this
GTD that people are raving about if you if you Google GTD, which
is the abbreviation for getting things done? There's millions of
links. So there's all these different software programs and
websites that apply this system ology, and I'm pretty
unorganized. And I'd have to say, um,
are you an organized or disorganized?
Yes. Whatever it is, you're worse.
Oh, yeah. Particularly not denying it?
No, no. So I guess it would be? Well, what is it? What is the
difference between unorganized and disorganized?
I don't know. I just threw it out there to, to try to
humiliate you. Thank you. Well, I think I'm, I think a
disorganized is the word you want. I don't organize. I think
it means the same thing. But I don't think anyone uses an
organized set. Maybe you
Okay, well, let me be disorganized, then for for sake
of conversation. But I've been applying this methodology. And I
gotta say it's kind of working. Have you ever? Have you ever
tried any of these, any of these?
Yeah, I've tried them. And then after a while, I kind of forget
how they work. And then it falls apart again. So you're
recommending this to me?
Well, I mean, day three of this, and I recommend you at least
give it a try. There's actually a there's a million different
software packages that
require you have to go to a seminar where you have to sit
down for hours and not take a leak. Oh, wait a minute.
That's another one. I got a mark. No, no, it doesn't require
that. The idea is reasonably simple. It just splits it up
into four different steps. The first one is collecting shit,
which I think you and I are both good at is Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I
gotta just Oh, yeah, I gotta I gotta talk about this. Oh, no,
I've got to do this. Oh, I gotta call that guy. So one is
collecting stuff, then you have you make decisions about not
when you're going to do it, but what context it is, you might
want to attack this particular task. And then and then you
basically review stuff on a periodic basis. I mean, I'm not
gonna sit here and explain the whole thing. I was wondering if
you'd heard about it. No, it's, it's very, very interesting.
I'll send you the there's a, like a white paper, just read
the first paragraph. In fact, I'll put that in the show notes.
Read the first paragraph. And you'll kind of get the idea but
I'm using imagine
involve changing your diet or hypnosis? No.
No, it does not. Know it's simple, and it's good for for
disorganized, people like you. And I think it's pretty cool.
I'm using Omni focus on the Mac, to apply this theory. And so
far, I'm pretty happy. All I know is you only had been doing
it for three days. Yeah, but I did but I did have the milk for
the pancakes this morning. Oh, so it works. works. I love the
system.
I put my underwear on the right way. Check
your Mr. List. You know you
I like lists I keep I always tell people when they screw up
that where's your list? Or is your
right so if you like lists, you're like getting things done.
It's it's based on lists. Only the system kind of organized
this shit for you. And instead of like, oh, because you know
you have I'm bet you have a million list that you haven't
checked everything off.
Yeah, I have a list of lists.
This is good stuff. Man. Getting Things Done GTD google it
there's again as I will get
it, I could use the help. I mean, I'm not I'm not so stuffy
that I wouldn't like you know, I would say maybe something like
this works.
I'm I'm pretty amazed that you hadn't heard of it. I
don't know a lot of things. I do know one thing I haven't I did
make a little list of things we were supposed to talk about last
week and didn't tell you about this week, including my
experience at Canadian customs.
Oh, yes, please do tell.
So what a bunch of dicks those guys are you think our people
are bad.
There's this customs or TSA because there's defaults. Okay,
custom guys were jerks. But they weren't as bad. The TSA in
Canada is worse than ours our job? Oh,
anyway, those Mountie hats. No,
no, they should. So I go through there and they're like, you
know, you know, they got all the blondes They're making you do
this and then finding is they don't make you take your shoes
off, but everything else is gotta go.
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. They don't make you take take
your shoes off. Isn't that like a violation of some secret
airport security code? I mean, you could be a shoe bomber for
all I know, days. Honestly, shoes don't beep i guess. Well,
you have those crocs
that you always wear? dorks Yes, get straight dorks, not Crux
dorks.
And they're not crocs. They're Speedos. Nuff said. Well, I will
always say yeah, I wear Speedos to work. I amused myself at that
line, by the way. Yeah. So anyway, so you go so I went in
there and they're like checking through this and that and then x
ray and this and that. And the other thing and they're, you
know, they're putting it back through two or three times and
they bring out the they brought out the and they're slow, really
slow. And you know, and then they get somebody pre grills you
before the stuff goes into the machines
have a pre screening process. Yeah, that like
the Israelis have and you go to Israel, they basically ask a
million questions only if you fly lol. Actually, I was on TWA
and had that experience. Well, TWA at
the time was owned by an Israeli so it's kind of the same thing.
So anyway, I'm going through and they ensure that the thing was
fine to watch because they saw my you know, my, I had to pull
out the bag full of yeah, whatever you don't
tell don't tell us what was in the bag, junella toothpastes and
oh, you're four ounces or less baggy, your
three 3.2 ounces, I believe 100 milliliters. You
know, that's interesting, because it is 100 milliliters in
Europe. But in the US they say four ounces, which
is 3.2 ounces. It's not four ounces. Are you sure? Yeah.
Which is 100 milliliters. It's exactly the same amount. And I'm
going to look that up. Look it up while I'm giving you the
story. Yeah. So I have this this shave foam can that is huge. And
so this thing goes through first aid me how to pull it out of my
regular suitcase, even though I very rarely do that. Because
most guys Yeah, who cares it but anyway, so I pull it out and put
it through the bank. And so this big, distinct face through and
there's this bit and this woman, I swear to God, her eyes look
just bold.
I've got one,
I've got one, I get to reprimand somebody for bringing in a
candidate and then they get to steal the can and take it home.
But it turns out, she can shave her beard. So it turns out to be
just a can of shape form with a bladder in it because it's got
no aerosols. And so it's kind of oversized, but it was very clear
that I bought it in England actually. It's very clear on the
side it says 75 milliliters, which is way under so I so I've
never seen it's like she heard she was depressed. She was She
just dropped you with ah yeah, bummer. It was.
It's 3.4 ounces.
Okay. 3.4. Anyway, she was bummed down. Damn, I almost had
him. And then she Pat, you know, and then she takes forever to
give me the stuff back. Because I'm just like, you know, I'm not
like yelling.
Here it is. And then they take him around out back and then
I've been waiting to play that.
Yeah, you'll be playing it a lot. I'm sure. Yeah, definitely.
So then they wait. So they're, they're waiting forever to
give it back to you. Yeah. And then they tell me I can go. But
me, but it was just the their attitude was actually worse than
ours.
And do you think they have the same type of training is the
same
type the same grip, say they all come out of the same cookie
cutter.
There was a there was an excellent article by a former
cop. Someone sent it to me a couple of weeks ago, who was
actually skilled in an interrogation processes. And,
and she started saying, oh, you know, when you have to go
through the puffer machine, she started saying, Do I have the
right? Do I have the right to refuse? And the minute you do
that, they freak out. But then they then they start doing
searches. And she says that, you know, their search techniques
are all wrong, that they probably not even trained in
body searches. It's so bad.
And oh, really? Yeah. That's interesting. I never thought
about that. Yeah, that makes sense. Because all they have is
the one they go up and down and pat you here and there and
table. Yeah,
well, even the the pat down is supposed to happen in a certain
way, you know, with the back of the hand, never with the palm.
So there's, you know, there's all these specific ways and she
was just astounded at how poorly they are. Because, you know,
people rarely request a pat down instead of going through the
machine. And the minute you do that, they get all flustered.
And then you know, they, they're like, you know, we'll have to
call a supervisor over and the and you do have the right to
actually ask for a pat down instead. There's signs
everywhere, at least to US airports. I'll send you another
one. I gotta write this down. Another thing I put in the show
notes. It was a very interesting story. I didn't think that to
bring it up the other day. But now that you're talking about
the Canadian, TSA, what are they called? Actually the TSA in
Canada?
I don't know. Low TSA. I have no idea. I didn't ask. I was
supposed to work to even have a conversation. So we found it
irritating. I was very, it was a bit annoying. I'm sure that
Canadians feel the same way about our version of the same
thing. But it's like, you know, go into Canada for God's sake.
Well, you will never do that again.
I like Canada, I like going there. We have Canadians, we
have Canadians who give us money. And the Canadians and I
like seeing what they're up to. Although I think they're getting
brainwashed horribly, but I think they have to really be
inundated because the Canadians are actually kind of cynical.
Well, for those of those of you who are from Canadia, who are
brand new to no agenda, our formula is very simple. It works
like this. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the
mouth. Yeah, sometimes we even do it to TSA. But then in kind
of like a non literal sense.
Yes. So we also have somebody who wrote in complaining that we
were asking or requesting not complaining but requesting that
we somewhere or somebody or maybe somebody should volunteer
to do this, which is to post or extremely low bit rate version
of the show. Why? Well this guy apparently lives in the middle
of nowhere, outback of Australia or someplace where he has
nothing but dial up. And he says it takes a key Can't you can
barely get the show as it is even though I mean he's got
somebody I guess somebody did it a bit. low bit rate it for him.
So you have a small file? I think it's a minor audience. I
mean, I've always I wouldn't I
wouldn't mind serving the audience. Without a doubt. It's
just a matter of time, you know, at post show. It takes forever
to do all this shit.
I think we can have somebody out there volunteer to put up a
little site of low bit rate, no agenda. Yeah. And just recorded
for us and just post it for people like this guy. Now,
although
it actually would be better if we did a little bit rate from
the original file because I record the show in AI, F F. So
that's high, you know, uncompressed quality. And then
it would be better to do it from that instead of from the
compressed mp3, which is already you know, what are we doing? 64
kilobits? That's already pretty low.
That's really low. Yeah, but he wants like 10
this is the guy with the Betamax, right? Yeah, well, if
someone out there would would do it for us. You know, whatever. I
can set up to help be happy to do I'm still trying to get the
links to work right on our Squarespace site. And this is
freaking me out.
Yeah, they don't know they should be cut and paste double.
i That's what I'm doing. I'm cutting and pasting. You don't
have to like go create something with Squarespace. Or maybe it's
something with Emilio. I don't know what it is. But it's yeah,
we'll resolve it eventually. Yes. It'll fix itself with John
and I are theory is simple. It'll fix itself. Eventually
someone will make it work. And it always does. Eventually it
does. All right. Well, you got some clips. John, let's do some
clips.
All right, let's see, what do we have here? Let's start with our
friends. You know, the propaganda machine called law
and order with boat which by the way, is now having two messages
per show. Because I think that Dick Wolf realizes NBC is close
to going down the tubes because of their Jay Leno strategy. And
you know, the other thing that's going on with Jay Leno and his
Stretton strategy is that they're the Jay Leno Show is
being boycotted by a lot of actors and actresses and
directors. Why? Well, because they they took the 10
o'clock. Oh, of course, drama off right away from
and that means people lose a lot of work. And then when they get
to go into Leno Show for scale, you know, 300 bucks, or whatever
they pay. So you're telling
me that the actors and directors and maybe perhaps even the
guild's are actually saying we're going to punish NBC? By
not even promoting the stuff that we do do do justice.
It's kind of it's competing against the 10 o'clock hour on
the other two networks, the other two networks that we said,
hey, you owe
John. Don't no show. Yeah, you dropped out for and
this is kind of this is kind of just desserts, because when Leno
first got his gig when he bumped when he managed to get Carson to
quit. His manager was was blackballing everybody who did
anybody else's show for over a year,
right. Yeah, that competition was huge. And I remember that.
Yeah. And it was Matthew, as you went on Letterman, then you you
forget about it. You would never you wouldn't appear on Leno for
two years or whatever.
Yeah, so that was, you know, so now he's getting it back, but
with the actual rationale rather than just an out now blackball,
there's a real good reason for it. So meanwhile, it seems to me
that Dick Wolf is because like laughs I think it was last night
it was during the way there's either when there was me it was
Thursday, or Tuesday one of them they had like back to back lawn
orders the regular lawn or the old one. Back to back that we're
both new. We just have a new lawn order at eight let's have a
new lawn order at nine
and then airs and what does that air on what network NBC against
this new law it
already used to be one of the 10 o'clock drops so now it's eight
o'clock it's eight o'clock or nine o'clock or whatever it is
is not when people expect it and you know the whole network is
losing out on this crazy scheme which
although I looked at the numbers you know NBC Universal so that's
the the entertainment unit of General Electric who of course
make all of our army shit. They had like $118 million in profit
they were the most profitable unit of General Electric which I
can only presume was because they reduced cost so drastically
by cutting out all the drama shows, but they're trying to
sell it they're trying to get rid of that.
I heard that so anyway, so then now we're seeing two messages so
I figured Wolf is just going for it but you know, he's gets his
he gets his talking points from the White House and here we go.
So here are the but I found one of the new messages that's kind
of interesting. Play the NYC number one clip now, yeah, Frank
says You haven't been eating since the chemo started do to
been talking behind my back. Point is I got this friend back
in Burlington, a nurse at a cancer ward. She gave me
something that might help tell me this now but it looks like
it's medical marijuana.
And still a crime in New York. raised you better than that?
Wow. Okay, so they brought that out and
this is pretty consistent what's been happening you know,
recently all of a sudden it's like oh, you know the feds are
going to ease back and medical marijuana is going to be okay.
And I think they just harvested too much and you know, the
military transport was filled with too much weed and they had
to do something they got to move the product you know, they can't
back it up it doesn't get any better you know,
a call wolf man tell him to put some shit in that show of his so
people start smoking that
so the next scene which is the NYC two does clip has her you
know she's this path of whatever name is the actress that plays
the chief or the the head inspector or the boss. She has
cancer cervical cancer by the way. Oh, let me guess. And we
have we already had the episode where they asked she said well
if you'd have taken the vaccine you wouldn't have got okay which
now of course we know the vaccine doesn't really do
anything but so so now she's you know, she's having to take in
chemo so they were trying to get her to smoke dope. So now I
guess she's smoking it and the chief of police comes wandering
in with one of the best lines I think but you have to live when
you it's at the end of the clip one of the best lines I think
I've ever heard on a line order but you can play it because this
this is kind of the twist this is kind of the strange turn of
events propaganda strictly in health and otherwise and I just
like to correct you it's not weed it's the Holy herb. Hit it.
Chief Charles give us a minute. Sure. Came back to me that
someone in the building smelled marijuana on you. Are you out of
your mind? You have 22 years in a pension Teef hack and explain
these minutes could take bark off a tree they'll clear your
breath
Okay, Shawn need to get me some of that men's
hour and change your clothes after you smoke this guy sells
medicinal dope he's careful and discreet we clear?
Yeah, sure. T ball cancer three years ago I stopped got me
a bowel cancer I mean that's you gotta take the ball Doctor
cancer three years ago. Yeah, but so do I do I understand the
storyline properly that a cop is has cancer and smoking medical
marijuana? Is that what I'm understanding? Yeah. Okay, well,
that's obviously a problem because it does impair your
ability to shoot. So I'm I'm an officer, he's an office cop.
Okay, all right. So she's just doing paperwork pretty much he's
got some tickets here.
Cancer so and the way he says it by the way, the shooter because
it's not just bulk cancers more cancer
because of course you know, NBC is and dig dig walls they're
very smart. They know the typical viewer of these programs
you know, don't understand what the word testicle means. So they
have to use the word that people know balls Oh, like if walking
thing between your legs right? Was that test to get test get
the thing. That smart? Just armed on law and order. One of
our producers sent me a note saying hey, you know you guys
were talking about the abortion episode. Remember, remember that
one that we laid clips from? He thought that perhaps, you know,
yesterday, part of the big debate on the health care bill
was actually about the abortion issue. And so he said, Hey,
maybe that was why they knew that this was this was coming
up. And this was going to be a big problem or a big part of the
bill and concessions had to be made. And maybe that's why they
started messaging that a mod order.
That could be there's some abortion amendment, I know
floating around as
well. It was a huge issue. Apparently, most of yesterday's
debate when it really came down to it was about government
funding. Yeah. And that has been been brought back or restricted
or I haven't, I don't know where to read what they actually
talked about, where can I find the x? And where when is the
final final? This is not the final John, I thought that it
was now done. It's over. We have another round to
go. No, this isn't this. This is the bill that came from the
Senate and that was being approved by the house? I don't
think so.
But okay, so it goes house to the Senate to the Senate to the
house, put your right foot in, take your left foot out what
normally goes from the house to the Senate to the President.
Right. But then what How can you say it's not isn't the house
dreamed up some bill recently?
So that you have the House Bill, you got the Senate Bill? Now
they have to be merged? And then there's another vote? Is that
the deal?
Generally?
Well, I thought you just said usually the house goes to the
Senate the way they're doing
this one is beyond me. I didn't but your political scientists,
you should know what these bills they write a bill it goes to the
House extended over to the Senate, the Senate says, you
know, we'll let we're gonna change it to this that we can
approve this that you said okay with you guys at the house. They
say Yeah, sure. And the boom, it goes to the President signs that
that thing would becomes law. So isn't that what's supposed to
happen next? Yes, I've ever seen. I don't know what they're
up to. I can't figure it out.
Well, if you can figure it out, then we're lost. No, we're
not. Well, I don't
get it. I mean, you said this, you just told me this was not
the final thing. Now you've confused me. I thought it was
done. No, it's
not the final thing I could be wrong. John, slow. It's a slow,
complicated process, before we go any faster go to these
finance committees to make sure that they can afford it. You
know, the whole thing is,
I thought that this was all taken care of. I mean, this is
very confusing. They
got amendments, they got it put in and it's gotta go back and be
checked for its numbers. I you know,
this is not the final, final, final final, there will be yet
another document that we can read. So we actually know what
it means. I was guessing Yes. Or is that going to be one of those
documents that says in line 32 referencing this? Did you have
to go back and forth between a million documents? Oh, I hate
that so much. And now I'm sorry, John, I have to interrupt the
flow. here to bring you some real news as Glamour magazine
has announced their Women of the Year for 2009. These are the
women who have contributed to just outstanding contributions
to society and the advancement of women in general. These are
the heroes of today's woman. I'd like to bring you the list, as
I'm sure you will agree with many of them. But not all. Would
you like to hear the Women of the Year 2009. Pins and Needles
number one woman of the year is none other than Rihanna. White?
You know who she is? He's a singer. Yes.
What makes her a woman because her
boyfriend Chris Brown beat her in the face. Then you become
Woman of the Year.
Okay, no, that's the woman who got beat up. Yes.
So now you're a strong woman because she's you know, her face
looks fine now. So good job. You took a beatin and you're still
there, Rihanna. Number two is Maria Shriver, who is just the
Kennedy right. That's enough to become Woman of the Year. I
think that's enough.
Then we have no I think all Kennedy should be women in a
year.
Even the men even the male candidates, many of them then
Stella McCartney. Of course, she is daughter of a Beatle which
right there and gives you you know, she does have her own
creds. She's got a clothing line, which has varying reviews,
as many do but it sucks. Yeah. Then there's Amy Poehler as
she's from Saturday Night law or is a comic Yes, that's correct.
She's a woman of the year now my outcome my outcome that
edge of fate. Tina Fey who isn't topping her on the list because
she's
no longer with with Saturday Night Live. No, Lorne Michaels
had to make a decision. And he said let me have it this year.
Now the next one is I would like to bang her so hard is Marissa
Meyer from Google.
Have you ever met her?
Yes. Oh, yeah. And she and this is great picture of her. You've
got to look at it. She She looks photogenic. I've never met her.
She's in
a red dress and she's sitting on one of those red balls like the
one that Leo always sits on. In one of those. Ball. It's a big
ball. cabal cancer, but she just she just brings out something
very animalistic in me. I can't help it. Okay, then we have
Serena Williams. Then we have Jane Aronson. Well, that was
Jane Aronson data. No, she's Oh, she's the guardian angel.
This is a bunch of bowl this list. You know what? They gets
better?
Because I'm leading up to a point. So then we have Susan
Rice, who is of course, communications director now,
none on a communications director. She's a US Ambassador
to the United Nations coming Hillary Clinton is not on this
list. Well, no, the final two, John, and these are the ones
that really count. You, Anna Lee and Laura Ling remenham. Your
cow.
Okay, here it is frying Chinese journalists who
they are women of the year because according to Glamour
magazine, they are extraordinary women who are brave and
resourceful reporting a story that no one else has. They
showed remarkable courage and initiative during their ordeal.
That's actually Al Gore. Who said, wow, yeah, that's bad.
Yeah,
that's a bad list. You know, how these lists are done. I tell
people this all the time because I've been in the editorial room
many a time and you sit around usually over lunch? Yeah. While
eating
lunch? Or is the is it just kind of like a
bunch of sandwiches, you know, just a good sandwich lunch, and
pop, you know, with with, with potato chips. And you sit there
and then you start making the list of usually there's a
whiteboard someplace and you start moving names around, then
you get into a debate with people I don't think should be
number two,
well, interview with us last year,
I'll give you if y'all move her to number four, if you let me
put so and so to number three. Okay, I can do that. And so it's
just this like phony thing. And then you put it together with
everybody in agreement. Okay. It's your it's like an hour.
Yeah. And then you're done your list. And then you realize when
you start getting the letters of the editor, that you left out,
like,
tons of important people. I know. That's great. I'm getting
I'm getting Twitter's and all kinds of noise, asking how can
it be, John, that you are so clueless about what happened to
the health care bill yesterday? I think if we're clueless if
John and I don't understand that, how do you think your
general populace
that I shouldn't I sent you the map, which we'll put in the show
notes of how a bill goes through Congress. And you can kind of
follow it. And you'll see that it's like they flip it look at
this map. It's not a it's not like a single route. Wow, these
things fly all over the place. They go from in and out of
committees, and they go to the floor and then debate and they
go to conference. So
let me just see where are we in the system right now. So we've
had
Well, I I think we're at a house. I think we're at the
bottom of this list. We have floor activity refers to Rules
Committee debate and votes of both that I don't know if the
senators voted. And then
yesterday was the Senate vote when he taught that it was in
House vote, you know, yesterday was the Senate vote. Oh, wait a
minute. I may be wrong. Who is considered a senator or a
governor or a congressman?
I think I think he's a congressman. No, Dennis
Kucinich. He's a representative from from from March. I think
he's from
Hey man, just because he believes in UFOs doesn't mean
he's a bad guy. Okay, I like him. I do stand up Mr. Christian
it's no no really stand up. He voted against it yesterday by
the way I did check his record. So this was ma'am why anyway so
after that
Scotch so that was the that was Congress because you know Nancy
Pelosi voted
in this and she's she's a senator. She's speaker of the
house she gets to vote was your Congresswoman of course Alright,
so then we still have so we're nowhere yet so we still have to
have a how a Senate bill
I don't know maybe the Senate bill passed because they had
that No, I think the Senate bill passes the House bill now it
goes to canal goes to conference. Okay, so the
conference which is where you get these guys yeah didn't say
who you know your bill I don't like that well we can change
that and then they changed the whole damn thing.
Okay, wait a minute. So in this graph that I'm looking at says
conference dash dash resolving differences in parentheses if
necessary, and then vote so who votes the House votes then
or though the conference that much themselves? I
think they who's the conference? It's just
a bunch of guys that we both sides send to this you know, you
guys meet with those guys and resolve it. How
many guys? I don't know who
doesn't say it changes.
It's like, Hey, I'm still listening with my guys. Hey, you
send some of your guys so they'll figure it
out, carry any weapons.
Show up on the non wired The rails routes, you know what's
gonna happen?
As far as I know.
And then it goes to the President. Yeah. And he just
signs it. And that's the end of it,
or vetoes, he
can veto. He's not going to veto anything. And then it's printed
and codified, and then it goes into law. And that's the end of
it. This is a good little chart, but it shows you that it's like
ridiculous. Okay, the chart, you know, it's in some process.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's on its way until the President signs,
something, we don't know what it's gonna say. Because the
resolution, the conference is going to change a lot of it.
Yeah, that's when actually everything changes, and it'll
probably grow in size. It's like it gets, you know, someone's
adding Viagra and extends to it at every step of the way.
But anyway, besides the point, they did pass something.
Something. Okay, so that was the House vote. Yeah, that makes
sense.
I think the Senate's already done. So we're at the point now
where they're gonna go to the the conference to fix the two
bills. So they work together as one
is that at the Moscone Center, this conference, it should,
they're gonna have a dinner party afterwards, cocktails at
six, you know, if, at 730,
I tell you one thing, if I could, if we actually received
enough money from our listeners, and all would take us $5 A year
from everyone who listens to the show, and John and I could both
quit. Now, of course, I love it that many people make up for the
people who aren't donating. But if we could get to that point,
you know, I could actually sit at home for a day and understand
the process because I know I didn't learn it in school, no
one taught me that in school.
If I wouldn't, you wouldn't still wouldn't get it, mainly,
because it's an impossible thing to me, you can see look at this
chart, it's got the arrows going every which way. So single loops
around every which way, it's got to go to these different you
know, every I don't even know who chooses what committees they
have, that have to go with deceptive Ways and Means, which
is the but you know, guys, you have to make sure they can pay
for this. And this, you know, some other committee has to make
sure that they can enforce it, that the IRS is somehow involved
now, because it's actually if they
come up with a tax and not a form of it is an actual tactic.
You
throw you in jail, if you don't buy the new Pelosi added some
little amendment to the House bill that says you're gonna go
to jail.
This is because Pelosi is out here in San Francisco, she's got
a whole punch a whole bunch of people listening to no agenda,
you know, to see what what the real pulse of the movement is
about. And they're hearing us talk about, hey, you know, what
you do? Well you got to do is just take no insurance, you
know, you pay your 1500 a year, and then when you get sick, they
can't refuse you and then you get automatic coverage. So it's
a lot cheaper, and they're like running back to Little Big hair.
They're like, ooh, Nancy, Nancy, Nancy, here's what Adam and John
have cooked up. We've got a shop. We've got to stop it
immediately. And then so they throw in this thing like,
we that's the Pelosi will she doesn't even know what a podcast
is. You'd be amazed,
somewhat someone who works for her does. Anyway, All she knows
is more Nazis. They've got some Nazi symbols, I'm sure Oh, we
must stop them. We'll make it a tags. And if you don't pay for
the tags, then you just go to jail.
So do we have anything else on the health care? I have some of
the Oh, I
got well, I was trying. I was trying. I was trying to get into
just Yeah, wait
one more Law and Order clip. I was I was telling you that there
was these two messages now they had them in the same show where
they have the medical marijuana thing they have this message
which is which unnamed of the clips on the
bill probably Yeah, yeah.
And the Sawyer thought otherwise, that you were selling
false hope to desperate people in 1000 bucks a day. Doing it by
cooperating doctors with timeshares and tropical
vacations that it's a rigged game. Don't get self righteous
on me, Jack. If corporations didn't make profits, where would
politicians like you'd be? ominously that stinks. There are
too many office holders in the health industries pockets. It's
one of the reasons we can't pass a decent health care bill in
this country, by the way. Right, it's
just let's just be blatant. Yeah,
I mean, it's really they should publish shownotes with law and
order so we can click on a link and we know what they're
actually referencing. For more information about the topics
discussed in NBC is Law and Order go to nbc.com/law and
order click on a link in the show notes and learn
so there was a bet out that you were you watched V so I won that
one. There's another bet that you have already developed a
crackpot theory
when I say you're you're hedging against me you're betting
against your buddy the crackpot you're actually putting your
you're taking on put put options on
me. I'm only on the V but on this 1am I Why were
you so sure? I hadn't seen it be just because I'm too busy doing
real work.
Because I've just had it was it some I have a second sense.
Third, I show that.
Here's the jingle. Here's the jingle. He has a second sense a
third eye and he wears speedos to work. John C. Dvorak if you
don't like him.
So where's the other shell dropping by the way?
No, but you can only drop one. I don't know, man. I didn't make
the clip. Details.
So anyway, you have a crackpot theory about the shootings at
Fort Hood.
It's not a crackpot theory. It's Wow, you want to get into that?
I'm real ready for that one.
So first of all, I everyone wants you to hear what you're
saying,
Oh, beautiful. So the first thing I always do when there's
something important happening that will affect 300 million
people in the country is I want to go hear what the President
has to say about it. And well, the President actually didn't
talk about the health care bill during his his presidential
radio address. He talked about what happened at Fort Hood. And
would you like to listen along for a second? Just to hear a
couple of the interesting things that our president had to say
about about Fort Hood and how he's spinning this? Yeah, go.
Oh, hold on a second.
Of what, by the way, JC has sent me a little note about the he
doesn't think that the health care bill passed the Senate yet.
And the conference report must be approved by both the House
and the Senate which they save it I guess they have to do so
the New
York Times pimped it out as being the something somebody
wants something by 220 to 215
Yeah, that was the house thing but I know
it hasn't gone for yet. Okay, here's your weekly radio address
as radio ised on youtube
I got nothing. You got nothing. I'm not hearing anything. Well,
no. No, you're right. I'm
not hearing anything either. What the hell is that?
There's a little knob says volume.
Hold on. Maybe it's this one. I think this is it. Let's see if
that word readiness processing center. Okay. began shooting his
you got it now. Right. Yeah. Okay. I'd like to speak with you
for a few minutes today about the tragedy that took place at
Fort Hood. This past Thursday, on a clear Texas afternoon. I
love that setup is beautiful. Right? You're ready for it. It's
a clear Texas afternoon and by the way, I don't want to
diminish at all the value of life. It's horrible what
happened but clearly there's a lot of weird shit going on with
this. First there was three gunmen, CNN was all over three
grime. And I remember that was one lone gunman, even the the PR
major or general whatever his name is, was saying, Well, it's,
you know, it's really it goes against all logical reason that
one gunman can cause so much carnage. But okay, so the
president is setting the stage for you and your mind. It's a
clear Texas day in world. An army psychiatrist walked into
the Soldier readiness processing center and began shooting his
fellow soldiers. It's an act of violence that would have been
heartbreaking had occurred any place in America. It's a crime
that would have horrified us pedis victims been Americans of
any background. But it's all the more heartbreaking. And all the
more despicable because of the place where it occurred. And the
patriots, who were its victims. Now you're with me, you get in
the setup, right? Yeah, you're getting prepared. Now these it's
happening to the Patriots. The SRP is where our men and women
in uniform go before getting deployed. It's where they get
their teeth checked and their medical records updated and make
sure everything is in order before getting shipped up. By
the way, I found that to be really weird to say they get
their teeth checked. What is this like their horses? Like a
cattle?
Yeah, that is an odd thing
to say it was prepared. Yeah. But you know, they get a medical
or they get a physical, they get their teeth checked. It's like,
I don't know, that just felt weird to me. He's like, come on
over here, you sheep was in this place on base where our soldiers
ought to feel most safe, where those brave Americans were
preparing to risk their lives in defense of our nation. Okay,
second time that he's talking about how they're they're not
just enlisted or being called up from the National Guard. You
know, these people preparing to defend our nation against these
horrible 100 al Qaeda in Afghanistan, lost their lives in
a crime against our nation. Okay. Hey, there it is. Because
you hear it
lost their lives against our nation.
Right? So this is this is, this is this is what bugs the shit
out of me. So you got to make up your mind either you're gonna
call us a terrorist attack or not and if you slip in a crime
against our nation, does that not imply that it's a terrorist
attack?
No,
that's listen again, it was in this place, our base where our
soldiers ought to feel most safe, where those brave
Americans who are preparing to risk their lives in defense of
our nation lost their lives in a crime against our nation.
soldiers stationed in Iraq, Afghanistan and around the world
called and emailed loved ones at Fort Hood, all expressing the
same stunned reaction. I'm supposed to be the one in harm's
way. Not you yet. So, to me the subtle message here is these
terrorists are supposed to be shooting at me not at you. Am I
reading this wrong? Am I just to crack potty about this?
No, not really. No, you're not to crack potty you might be
over. You might be extending a bit but keep going.
Thursday, shooting was one of the most devastating ever
committed on American military base. And yet, even as we saw
the worst of human nature on full display, we also saw the
best of America, we saw soldiers and civilians alike rushing to
the aid of fallen comrades tearing off a bullet riddled
close to treat the injured. I mean, this is the same guy who
wrote Rights Law and Order is writing this. Yeah, well, that's
for sure. I mean, turning off bullet ridden clothing. I mean,
come on is
this why would you tear it off? They got to get to the wound.
Anyways, in blouses as tourniquets taking down the
shooter even as they bore wounds themselves. We saw soldiers
bringing to bear on our own soil, the skills they had been
trained to use abroad, skills that have been honed through
years of determined effort for one purpose and one purpose only
to protect and defend the United States of America. All right,
well, I can't listen to it anymore. Because it's the same
thing over and over again, it's all about basically a subtle,
the subtle message. The way I'm hearing it is it was an attack
on the United States. So a couple things. First of all,
this guy was a psychiatrist. And it's funny actually, I thought
you might come up with a crackpot theory that this was
somehow some horrible publicity stunt gone wrong for the nor new
George Clooney movie, which is Men Who Stare at Goats. Which is
a true story about these type of psychiatric or as they call
psyops. well documented by the, by the way, in the movie,
Clooney is one of an elite team who actually can use their brain
to, you know, to do things like kill goats, just by staring at
him. So you've probably heard of the program MK Ultra. What these
psychiatrists oftentimes do when they're at the preparedness
readiness center, or whatever it's called, is, you know, they
really help reprogram soldiers brains remember these, these
boys and girls who are going over to Iraq and Afghanistan,
and that going for the first time, okay, this is not like,
you know, the early 18 year old recruits, although some of them
are still 18. These are, these are people going back for the
second, third, fourth, fifth tour, and you have no idea and a
tour is no longer six months, I think it's a year. And within a
couple months, by the way, this this will be the longest war in
American history. So the idea is and they bring in all kinds of
psychiatrists and brain programmers to help remove the
horrible inputs that these basically these young children
have received. So I don't even looking at some of the security
camera footage from this major Hasan, who was the very the day
right before this all came down. He's in a in a mini mart. He's
you know, laughing and the cameras catching all this. Yeah,
but he's wearing a dash. Well, that's the whole point. Of
course, he's wearing some dishes with
the mighty me that other situation with the guy that they
pulled out of Denver,
who was who was in the in the beauty mall buying a hydrogen
peroxide,
right, you know,
it's the formula. No, it's the same formula show the guy in his
mug Muslim garb, you know, so we don't have to call him a
terrorist. But we do definitely, you know, right now, now that we
have to make a decision on sending another 48,000 troops in
Afghanistan, we have to really hype up the danger we have to
really let you know that it's really really dangerous. And so
this is just psychology being emitted on the American people
and on
his also they also found out you know, support you know, right
away they found his websites with his anti American posting.
Oh, of course. And you know, we've seen that fake before. And
then also the you know that somebody, my son actually
brought up the fact that the psychiatrist, if anybody
experiments with drugs, and there's some Whoppers out there
that psychotropic drugs that you can get, that would make you
nuts. If anybody this guy's about to deploy, he may have
loaded up on some damn thing and then gone nuts.
I think, you know, there's a lot of a lot of there's no
exploration going on. Well, who says that he actually did it?
There were that there were two other other people, you know,
all said, Oh, no, they'd had nothing to do with it. You know?
Just Oh, no, we'll just let them go. Here. Nothing to see. Look
at. Look at the guy with the Muslim dress.
But there's also the belief that there was a lot of friendly fire
involved because he's got short shoot and if one get him because
he only has what is he coming in there with a nine millimeter? I
don't know. How many shells? Do you think that thing only had a
740? Do you have a machine gun?
Well, I read that it was an M 16. I don't think an M 16. Has
that many bullets?
Well, you dig a bit you can get a big military clip. Yeah, you
can get a lot of in there. So.
But if you kill 18 and wound 31, you got that? I don't know. I
mean, look, I'm not a gun expert. I'm sure. So
let's check it up an M 16. Maximum clip that were there. I
know they're illegal. Civilians look, but
I read that it was an M 16. So you looked that up? And
otherwise, it wouldn't have been an AK 47? Because, you know,
that's not a US military weapon. And no, why not an
M 16 would be logical. I know where I get it in a semi
automatic apparently didn't like shooting guns. So I mean, well,
how to all of a sudden you become a gun expert.
Okay, I have your 5.7 millimeter 20 rounds semi automatic.
Yeah, that's, that's the civilian version. Okay, so
what so what is the so anyway, so he had either I think he had
to reload a new clip, which just doesn't make any sense, man,
Eve, especially since he doesn't like guns, even though yes.
Completely doesn't like guns. And even the PR official was
saying it's counterintuitive. But hey, you just got to believe
us. So I'm not buying it at all. And I think it's unfortunately,
it was one of these desperate moves to get the American public
scared again,
you get 40 Round clips you can get doesn't say that. Yeah, I'm
looking at okay,
so he Well, that's pretty damn impressive. 40 rounds, and he
kills 18 and wounds 31. So he must have had a couple of shots
where he hit two people with one
or both bullets flying every which way from you know, the
other side to? Yeah, and because the girl who brought him down,
it was a woman, by the way, which I thought was somewhat
symbolic, because, you know,
right, the woman brought a woman cop brought him down, or
securities
person, and maybe she shot him like she got hit. And she put
four rounds into him. And of course, if you think about the
Muslim kind of the symbolism here, a woman killing a Muslim
male Oh, yeah. Oh, I hadn't even thought about that. There's that
angle, which seems a little, you know, a little rigged. And the
whole thing is just like screwy. But we're not gonna find out
anything there. We're not going to you know,
no, and the guy will never make it. You know, he won't get off
the breathing.
Here's a 90 round to draw. I don't know. Okay, so
but you think that you know, something? So listen, John, the
guy actually cleaned out his apartment, you know, put
everything in storage, he was ready to deploy. And you don't
just do all that if you're thinking fucking, I'm not
deploying, I'm gonna go blow everybody away. And by the way,
it just makes no sense. It makes no sense. But what does make
sense is immediate distraction was needed for some reason.
Because we have the health care bill that's been top of mind, we
got around this thing through, we have 48,000 troops who want
to deploy for the opium harvest so we can get all the dope back
on time. And then all of a sudden, this happens at Fort
Hood incidents. I think that, you know, I hate to say it, but
I Yes, my crackpot theory would be that there are elements I'm
not necessarily saying the government, there are elements
in upper echelons of society, who in fact, do not give a shit
and don't mind if scores of people are wounded and killed
just to distract attention. That's, that's my theory. And
I'm sticking to it.
Yeah, well, I'm not gonna argue with him. Wow. I mean, there's
something good because the whole thing just doesn't add up. And
it's just too convenient. There's too many if these things
were more, there were more like, if it wasn't like so well
packaged. The guy's a Muslim. They got a picture of him the
day before and his dish dash looking like some guy in you
know, Qatar. And then he's got two web blog postings which
you've seen this before. It's almost like it's almost like a
cookie cutter version of something we've heard about
before. And then we got the postings and he hates the You
know, he's been expressed and he's deployed for some reason,
you know, even though he's, he hates the idea, and he's bitches
and moans a lot of guests, maybe he doesn't. And then you know,
and then a woman kills him, you know, she saves the day kills
the Mad, Mad Arab. That is shooting up the place like a
maniac. And some, it's just too it's just a little too. It's too
well groomed. And there now of course, he's on a ventilator,
and he's about to die. They're trying to question him,
supposedly, I mean, he could be dead already. We don't know. And
then you're right, he probably will be dead, he'll die or I
don't think he's ever going to be seen standing up again. I'd
be shocked if that took place.
Yeah, and somewhere I have a link which of course I can't
find right now. It was from I think the Times online, they
were already connecting him to September 11 terrorists. So you
know, basically the call goes out to the, to the UK Ministry
of Truth. i Hey, Prince, I'm up about some connection to al
Qaeda. willya. And you know, that's it's a little too blatant
to start that right here. Like in the New York Times, although
I'm saying you know,
we have like white right now we're running like, this is the
other question you have to ask. We're running a surveillance
society, Obama keeps pushing this through, he got the Patriot
Act, you can look at anybody and you got this guy in the army at
Fort Hood, writing weird stuff on a web blog wandering around
in a dish dash bitching about the army constantly, apparently.
And he links to those guys. Qaeda. And now all of a sudden,
we're finding all this stuff. I mean, where's all this Patriot
Act stuff? Where's the research? Or is the I might
want to mention that also going on in some form of that process
of the diagram we can figure out is the Patriot Act, you know,
they're right in the middle of the renewal of that, I mean,
that has to be renewed very, very soon. So you know, that's
also going on at the same time, this is another another one of
those you know, maybe the the the beauty shop bomber wasn't
scary enough. So now you know, you know what, let's create some
havoc and they come in and by the way, immediately, the first
thing that is said in, in, in cable news is it's not a
terrorist attack, which is almost like a disclaimer on the
cigarette packaging. You know, it's like, when you slide draws
attention to it when you sit when you say to someone, do not
forget, your brain does not register the word not your brain
registers the word forget. So when you say it is not a
terrorist act, what people's brains actually register as
terrorist act, right? I mean, this is this
document, use a negative net your brain when I take a
negative, so you know, so basically, but folks out there
when you say do not forget, you never say Tell somebody now just
say remember to remember a member exam, remember to get the
milk.
Hey, it worked.
I can have pancakes. I'll put that link in the show notes. For
some reason. I can't find it right now. But you know, they
had already figured out that this guy was you know, his mom
was buried someplace where some some other guys were in a
Palestinian Jew, by the way. George, but with a Palestinian
connection.
Oh, boy. So you know what, I guess it wasn't such a so much
of a crackpot theory because you're not against it. But the
real thing to look into is the is what kind of psychological
work is going on. To basically you know, Mickey and I, we met a
servicemen on Halloween night, around the corner in the bar,
this kid named Justin. And he was just a guy who was like an
engineer, he weld, whatever, but he had gotten by he'd done three
tours to Iraq, one in Afghanistan, and you talk to
this guy, and you all of a sudden you just see something
come over him. It's like a door opened up. And it's, it's the
most saddening thing to see. And he was talking about friendly
fire and how he had seen his own, you know, buddies being
shot by a US Cobra helicopter. And, and you just and he
actually went silent and glass side for a minute, but in a very
frequent scary kind of way. I mean, do not underestimate
what's happening here. Yeah, this is really, really, really
nasty shit. And it was so coincidental because just the
other day we were watching, what's the name of that John
Cusack movie, where he? He spoke it crap. And if you look up the
name of that movie, it was John Cusack and Hilary Duff. It was
it was it's supposed to be a comedy, but of course, it's
really it has an underlying message Hold on. John Cusack,
Hilary Duff it was a it was a fantastic movie War Inc. War
Inc. It was on HBO is probably still running. You must see this
movie. It totally shows you what I believe to be an exaggerated
version of the reality of what is happening in these wars run
mainly, by the way, by companies like Blackwater, and other
consultancies and private security firms, and what's
really going on. And of course, at the end of the day, it's all
about money and drugs and mob like practices. Well, great
movie, great African movie.
Okay, so I'll watch it. But anyway, one more thing about
this guy that and there's one more little anomaly that keeps
getting overlooked with in the body count. There was a civilian
that was shot and killed.
Yeah, cuz there were there was some kind of graduation ceremony
going on was no, who
was it? I don't know. They haven't released the names of
anybody. They've gone out of their way to only release two
names for some reason. And it's civilian and all of a sudden the
civilians dead, you know, this could have been a hit for all,
you know.
Yeah, that could have been to what you know what we're just
not going to know certainly not right now. We're never going to
know we're never going to find out. But for sure. It doesn't
add up. I do not like the fact that there were two specific
suspects who were let go almost immediately. That makes no
sense.
Right, anyway. Okay. So did you did you win the bat? Yeah. Okay.
No, we actually did it was really no bad. I was just joking
because we all knew you were going
to come up with a crackpot theory that but it's not so
crackpot is it? It was
over something more weird. Like the guy was a Moon Man, he came
from VENA dropped off from a flying saucer. I'll
throw I'll throw in the crackpot one, which is not that cracked
body but do some research on MK Ultra.
But everybody knows about MK Ultra. That was in the 60s. It
was so long ago going on. It says you. So I lost my thing
here. Oh, here it is? No, I guess not.
Do you want to talk about some donations?
Yeah, let's talk about some donations.
So again, I want to thank everybody for your contributions
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You'd give up some of your speaking engagements and other
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Maybe we just have to do that and then people will catch up
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Let's go there. We should go up there.
I'd love to go to Saskatoon, Saskatoon, Alison Hamel who
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yo, do we have a count of 21? Then?
I think this is 22 Isn't it? Wow. Could be 20 or 21 or 21.
Night somebody probably stopped listening anyway. And she's in
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Let me just let me just jump in here with a note from Jay won't
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me. I already John so that means like $1,000 for the cause. Yeah.
If we eat vegan for a week,
I will tell him to bring a vegan over and we'll eat him he's
that would not be vegan. That would be meat eating. Which are
you game? Are you ready to go? Vegan for a week? No.
Okay, we'll just say well, we'll push that off, but we will do
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don't push it off. Let's do it.
I'm not gonna do it. Now. I got meat, soy
Hold on a second. Whoa, that's the opening of the show if I
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Todd Simmons 69 169 69. I think he's trying to make a point
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said Rory, his book back, dammit. James Briscoe we
mentioned before 233 63 And I'll get to an explanation for that.
Shortly. West little and muggy Mississippi, this makes two
people from Mississippi that that and he gave us 60 And of
course Travis when is still on the list. You notice
that there's very little from the big cities in general.
Well, Rick Hanson's in Seattle.
Okay. That's a big city, but still, you know, like, you know,
New York.
If you've ever gotten a donation from New York, Los
Angeles, you know, I don't think we've ever had just go proper
never. And by the way, where's Berkeley and all of this?
Listen to this show. Hello, Bertie, your Obama bots.
Alright, here we go. James Briscoe, I'm just gonna read the
note. Yet another donation from your soul Long Island listener
and get most central since my last donation was to quote
unquote complicated for you to follow. Here's how I arrived at
my latest donation. Then he has a then he has a subdirectory CD
slash SATA two slash na slash castes. And then parents he says
contains all the shows up until 1115. For my private no agenda
stream to listen to it works. Speaking of which, what's taking
you guys so long to set this up? It took me an hour just to
download the shows and a trivial amount of time to setup
shoutcast. And here's the calculation 512 Some equals cat
star dot mp3 slash Sha 512. Some hugs, dollars equals 512. Some
mod 250 cents equals 512. Some mod 42 plus 24. That is how he
got to 3363. But you know what?
I don't care what it means I'm just happy. And He is the
executive producer of no agenda 146. And I appreciate it. And
you know what? Yes, it's not hard to set up a shoutcast
server and drop some shows into a directory. But the whole point
is to make it come alive. This is the art that John and I
possess a dying art I might add seeing as radio has been been
pulled to shit, thanks to Clear Channel and Sirius XM and all
these playlist type stations. That's why streaming radio has
never really taken off. Because it's just playlists, you need to
have the art of programming behind it. And that actually
takes a lot of work. It takes time it takes looking at
feedback, looking at listener behavior, and always having
something fresh. Now we have the added disadvantage of not
knowing if you're in which time zone you're in. So it's very,
very complicated to set this up properly. In fact, I'd love to
have an East Coast feed a get mo East fee to get my West feed as
a whole bunch of things that come into place. It's not as
simple the technology is not the problem. It's the actual hours
in the day that you need to put in to make this worth listening
to. Otherwise, you might just just go ahead and publish your
directory and people can just listen to it from there. I mean,
that stuff is easy. We're talking about is a real
entertainment information experience. And that ladies and
gentlemen is borax. Diva day. Sorry, I was channeling you for
a moment. Yeah, I
could tell ya.
Andres, Kalka. We just want to mention one of our donators who
comes in at a monthly $5 a month level, and he's from the Czech
Republic. And he goes in this whole thing about when you're
when you're supposed to use the so not with Ukraine, it would be
Ukraine and not the Ukraine. But since he's in the Czech
Republic, he says, you know, you spell the Prime Minister's name
VA Clav. But you do not pronounce it voc love you
pronounce it. Vos love
Klaus is advice love.
It's vos. Love this. Okay. He apparently is pronounced as an
S. So I appreciate that. And I'll tell you what, I have only
heard it pronounced his Vaclav in the United States. And I hate
it when people don't even get the basics of the name. Right.
So thanks for that. Thanks for that correction, Andres. Which
of course murdering that too. Oh, yeah, no,
we botched it. We are actually experts at butchering names. We
appreciate your right eye. When somebody sends me an
explanation, I try to do it.
And we appreciate your $5 donation. That's also, by the
way,
anybody out there wants to subscribe to $5 monthly thing
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we ask for all the people out there who give $10 or 4995 or $5
a month, and all the rest of it all adds up. And it's, you know,
it's all good. But it's nice to get.
It's not it's not enough.
I don't know whether it's good, but it's not enough. And by the
way, I think I'm going to do you know, when it comes to executive
producers, because of the situation last show, anyone who
gives over $200. In other words, if we have three people that
we're going to have the height man, we'll get the executive
producer to the other ones, we associate executive producers,
which you can again, and it's a fact by the way, yes, use on
your resume,
not only can you use it, but it looks good, you can get jobs
with it. And you know, we all need some
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Vote with your Pay Pal account and get it on your resume. And
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Yeah, make sure you get the show number, right. Actually, we'll
probably post when I after I do this, this this organizational
thing, whatever GTA or whatever.
TD Getting Things Done GTD
Gigi, once once I run that, then I'll be able to put up some
pages that actually list the executive producers for the
various shows. And you don't even have to bother us, you can
just point somebody to the web page and said, Look, see?
I'm an executive. Actually, that's a very good idea. John,
we should do this right now. Could you please send me our
executive producers name? And I'll put that in the show notes.
Just Skype it to me right now. Will you just forget. So I
should be doing that we already by the way, we also post the
chat logs. So the full logs of what's going on in the chat room
with no agenda. chat.com is online every week in the show
notes. You can go back and see what people are talking about a
lot of good information there. And I will now put at the top of
the show. This week's executive producer and anyone else over
$200 gets an Associate Executive producer credit in the show
notes. You are embedded there and codified for all history to
see. James Brisco is our executive producer for this
episode. Yeah,
that's actually good idea. That way it shows up. But still, we
don't have to be bothered with these letters.
No, I'll do the letters. I don't care about your lane. Man. That
was so lame. By the way your Skype connection degraded
significantly. Status. Yeah,
these are not sounding like a chicken. But it happened a few
minutes ago. Like it's all of a sudden it just crapped you, too.
Oh, really? Sorry. It's okay. I think the Skype craps out at
about an hour. Do you have any
more? Any more people to talk about today? No, actually,
I don't I'm I'm I mean, except for this. I had it. I don't have
the link up anymore of that PDF that shows us leaving Iraq and
they have a
I was talking about donations. I mean, I got Oh, no,
that's it. That's weird. That's our donation. Oh, okay. Well,
you know, Timothy Geithner
is also looking for donate donations, Little Timmy
Geithner, of course, is our treasury secretary. And he's not
liking this limit on a trillion dollars. So while we weren't
looking, while we were looking at live coverage of the mount of
Mount Hood of the Fort Hood, PR conference, Treasury Secretary
Timothy Geithner before the Financial Services Committee on
Wednesday. So yeah, you know, there's a new bailout package
being put together, it's, it's 16 118 pages in growing or as
some are calling it tarp on steroids. In that, so this, this
is another bailout for the financial industry, because
they're gonna need one because let's face it, you know, that
yacht is just not doing anymore. You know, the Goldman guys that
their yachts are beautiful, so we all need to have some bigger
yachts. And the previous bailout, of course, was 787 was
$787 billion, I believe. And in this in this new document, I
don't know if it's a bill yet, or it's a it's a proposal, I
guess, there was a cap set on the amount of money that could
be made available. And when Geithner was asked if he would
accept a $1 trillion limit, which is 1000 billion, so it's
1000 1000 million. He said, No, that's no good. I can't have no
kid tap on that shit. That's no good. So that's also happening.
While we're kind of not looking while we're obviously distracted
by other things going on, which is why you have to listen to
your church have no agenda, your weekly media assassination. And
may I just point out that gold briefly touched $1,100 An ounce
we knew that
you're projecting it's gonna go to 2000 it's going
to go through 2000 Well,
the website is direct.org/n A or no agenda show.com. And you can
link to the donation page
isn't? Is it possible John, the buttons we have on no agenda?
show.com and dvorak.org/blog? Can people copy those and put
them on their own sites? Or can you publish the code? So people
I guess, publish the code that would do it? Would you do that,
please? Because I think that'd be very handy. So
I got list number 16 Gate
GTD getting things done. Seriously, though, just Yeah,
give me the code or whatever. Let's let's put that in there,
man. Well, okay, but
let's look okay. It's a done deal. Not this minute, but it
will be done.
That's the it's a done deal. Getting Things Done. It's a new
variation. It's a done deal. A new a new time management system
by John C. Dvorak. It's a done deal. Guaranteed to get you
nowhere in life.
And get it in we got done deal.com Oh, we should get that.
That's funny. I'm sure somebody does.
Anyway, so that I just thought that was there's a there's a
great article, by the way in to hell as it is that. I think it's
also Yeah, it's a times online, which you may want to read.
Second, let me turn down your Mickey. And Mickey is making me
some coffee.
Drinking too much, you know, used to drink tea. Now. You're
all wired on coffee?
Yeah, yeah. I'm totally wired. It's a seven page web page
interview with Lloyd Blankfein. He's the chairman and CEO of
Goldman Sachs. These guys are on a PR rampage, I might add. And
I'm still reading it's a huge book, the partnership which is a
pro Goldman Sachs book talking about how they know what their
culture is all about. And, and I have to say you read
that you read that?
Dude, I haven't finished it. It's a big has. It's like a and
Rand's Atlas Shrugged. Oh, he gets it in again. At one point
in this interview, he says, Hey, I'm just a banker doing God's
work, which is almost as good as the ball cancer comment as far
as I'm concerned. But fascinating to read about the
about this company. And they really believe that they are
doing good and they really believe that it's awesome that
they have all the you know, the ex Goldman Sachs's are in the
treasury and important advisors and not just in the in the US,
by the way in the UK as well. And they think it's awesome. And
they think that they're actually doing good. And I have to say,
when you read through it, you know, it's compelling is not the
right word. But if you read it, from their point of view, you
can see how kind of misguided they are. Like, okay, I
understand where you're coming from. They just care about
money. That's all.
Yeah, they don't care about the country or the people or anybody
else. No,
no, no, it's 100%. About money. And yeah, if you believe in it,
then fine, then yeah, let's
do religion. So and people I'm going to put this on the blog,
and I think we will post the link to the Lord Monckton.
Oh, yes. He's been challenging Al Gore, hasn't he now? Yeah,
but he
also has a nice, you know, apparently in the appendix one
page 34 Something like that. It's under, in this crazy thing
that they're gonna do and Copenhagen?
Well, yeah, this is what I've been telling you is that they're
going to sign this treaty. And if Obama signs it, then
basically the sovereignty of the US has gone and we're at the
whimsical call of the G 20. Or whoever. And this is to really,
you know, cap and trade will look like peanuts compared to
what's coming down with this thing. That's coming up
December, I think eighth through 16th or whatever. The Copenhagen
treaties, which is all UN based crap, is extremely frightening.
Yeah, so take a look at this video. And, you know, decide for
yourself this video complaint, the very Lord Lord Monckton
spoke on the 14th in St. Paul, Minnesota, and apparently went
over the details of the sovereignty instead,
app, Copenhagen.
This December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed, your
President will sign it. Most of the third world countries will
sign it because they think they're going to get money out
of it. Most of the left wing regimes around the world like
the European union will rubber stamp it, virtually nobody won't
sign it. I have read that treaty. And by the way, John,
find me a copy of the treaty. I want to read that I looked on
their website. I couldn't find it at all. There's no link to
anybody looking at it. Well, I want to see it because this is
what I love doing. This is what this is why don't want to see
it. I want to read it fine. Please somebody find that and
email it to me what it says is this,
that a world government is going to be
created. Yeah. Okay. So he's just been listening to no agenda
right there. I mean, that's no news. The word government
actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new
entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the
countries of the West to third world countries in satisfaction
of what is called coyly a climate debt, because we've been
burning co2 And they haven't been we've been screwing up the
climate. We haven't been screwing up the climate, but
that's the light. So wait a minute, John, this sounds like
economic hitman time where they send the money over there, but
they don't really send it. They send the money and say, Well,
you have this money and you can use it, but you have to use our
Western companies and our western financial system to take
advantage of the finance. Right. That would make sense. Okay. And
the third purpose of this new entities is government is
enforcement. How many of you think that the word election or
democracy or vote or ballot occurs anywhere in the 200 pages
of that treaty? Quite right. It doesn't appear Okay. Excellent.
I'll put this in the show notes at no agenda. show.com Of
course, yeah, I've seen this video. I have brought this up a
couple times on the show. But now of course that it's too late
for us to do anything. Is the video when it? Hey, Phil went 11
We have a world government stay tuned filament alone. So if
anyone can find this document I knew this month and dude. Hey,
Mickey, you're really loud today, darling. People are now
actually complaining. She is turned down your Mickey.
You're supposed to be done by a lemon. You said your would be
is?
No, she is anything like anything but
that dude yourself. I like doing that character. I don't care.
Okay.
Please, if you have a copy of this, send it to me, Adam ADME
veoh.com. And well, we could go on for quite a while I guess.
But I think John we shouldn't because I think our time is up.
Yeah, I think our time is up. Yeah. But I want to remind
people to go to divorce.org/na or no agenda show.com and help
us out for the next show that we do, which we'll be highlighting
some. I don't know. What do you think's going to be happening?
Oh, you're gonna see V,
I'm gonna see v and you know what we didn't do today. We
didn't do a single story about swine flu. I'm very proud of us.
Which is interesting, because I have a story sitting here. I
have
five stories. It'll be swine flu Thursday.
It'll be swine flu Thursday, and we've got some good stuff,
including government lies.
Someone pointed out to me, actually was it was Will the
hairdresser who said I love the swine flu because it actually
means when pigs fly. I'm like, Wow. That's pretty deep. Huh?
Yeah. In that fine. Yeah, there's a swine flu when pigs
fly. Yeah, there's something very deep in there. My brain is
hurting from it. I think I need to make a new list.
Yes, I'm gonna lose 14. Coming to
you from the minimum security containment sell housing the
crackpot command center and get my nation in West San Francisco,
California. I'm Adam curry.
And from sunny Silicon Valley northward, rained a few days
ago, but now it's sunny again. I'm John C. Dvorak.
On Thursday. We'll bring you the swine flu edition of the show
when pigs fly right here on no agenda.