Whereas my reel to reel recorder I can't find it. Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak.
It's September 13 2009. Time for your Gitmo nation audio
publication episode 130. This is no agenda coming here once again
from the crackpot command centre located in the minimum security
containment cell, still under threat of eminent domain in San
Francisco, get mo nation West. I'm Adam curry,
and from what I suspect to be a cloud Buster at work in cloudy
northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Raglan buzzkill Yeah man, did you hear that? Yesterday morning
because you hear that were You were you kidding? I take that as
a yes.
So there's that so I was looking at this we have a weather
pattern here which is if you look on the when you want if
people out there want to go look at the really good satellite
maps you go to Purdue Unisys you go to Google and type in Purdue
University Unisys satellite, and there's a whole series of all
the major satellites are documented at this Purdue
University weather site. And so you can look at 24 hour you
know, analysis of the of the satellites they show the water
vapour satellite, they show the enhanced IR set they show
everything. So, so I'm so here we are was we went out to dinner
on Friday, which we'll talk about in a minute. Yes, we have
to good point. And so it was beautiful. It was what there was
like this. We're having our Indian summer here in
California.
Which by the way, is it now officially over with all of
this? Because I sure Hold on. No,
no. Okay. Now, this is just just a temporary respite, right. You
know, it'll be well, I don't know why this is even happening.
It's pretty weird. So anyway, so then the global warming of
course, charm. So then I guess it was was it last night or the
night before?
It was Saturday morning is when it happened for me, right?
Yeah, you had to be you had you probably slept through the best
part, which was starting about four in the morning. When the
first thunder started coming through, which is rare. We don't
usually have thunderstorms or lightning here ever. And so
there was like a lightning thunderstorm. In fact, on the
map, the weather map on the produce site, they showed 255
strikes by 10 o'clock in the morning. On Saturday morning.
Oh, you know
what? You know, what? Can I just interrupt you? For one second?
Yeah. Hold on a second. Now, forget it. But nevermind. I'm
sorry.
We're not streaming. Yeah, no, we
are streaming. It's just I wanted to do that couldn't find
the button. We haven't used it in so long
as our main button I couldn't write I'm sorry, I couldn't do
it again. So on Saturday morning.
How cut all that bullshit out? Don't worry, I got time.
You have zero intent of ever doing any post production on the
show?
No, no, I do from time to time, you know I do
when somebody comes in or something. So So there's all
these lightning strikes. And so but so I go and look at the
satellite maps and look at that 24 hour review and everything.
There's just like one little ball in the basically in fact up
in Washington State and my wife's going on about how it's
70 degrees and Oregon's game yesterday. There's a football
game last night, and Oregon at Eugene, and it was 85. And so
meanwhile, so I look at the map and it's just one little ball
it's just a smallest little storm it's just by itself. And
it just came into the Bay Area and it's supposed to dissipated
by now but it seems to be lingering. And that but I don't
necessarily believe in this. But I do have a duty Hey, when I was
a student I did read a lot of will stuff by about and by
Wilhelm Reich
Oh Wilhelm of course is the Oregon energy man
or golden energy guy. Which you know when you're a kid Yeah, it
says
love Wilhelm Reich and I love his his sex energy and his anti
cancer wooden box I've read so much about him
I Yeah, but you didn't read it through you had never read it
because you've never seen it. The stuff that was burned there
was still there still. There's still a lot of documents out
there that that did.
They put him in jail and they burned all of his research.
Yeah. Because it was apparently so evil. Or could it have been
actually right?
I don't know if it is right or not but but I had a number of
the documents that were burned because some it was It wasn't as
though this stuff never got
out. You have his his his missing documents and you've
never sent them to them. But could you please send them to
me?
I don't know where They are you kidding me?
What am I thinking?
Thinking alright nevermind if I find one or two of I think I
bled loaned them out and they belong gone but they're still
floating they still float around on the underground holy yo and
ask for him back and so do not to go into too much but he did
most of his stuff his he had these like this was like a very
long newsletter he was mostly claiming which is the most of
the stuff that was destroyed and very poorly documented in the,
in the later writings about Reich he is mostly talking about
this is why I don't really want to get you these like and even
find is mostly about flying saucers and a long term strategy
of aliens to do what is called desertification.
So deserve is a lot a lot of writing. I got to Google that
while you're talking. Yeah, desert
desertification it I'm sure it's on the on the net all over the
place. And the funny thing is, I keep running into this
desertification process. When I do travel, when you travel the
world, you run into this, this and he pointed out he says one
of the things that they've been trying to do is just turn the
whole globe into a desert, and it's going to take millennia to
do it. But it's like, this
is a good start, is gonna start in California is a good place to
start as Edie
and he but he's got this thing he says here's an example. And
he shows these. It's like these temples and monuments and you
see this occasionally when you go in he says it's not set. But
if you go to the middle of nowhere where there's no chance
of soot, you'll find these these old buildings that are decaying,
these old cement and brick and mortar buildings. And they have
this kind of black is black stuff on them. And he's you see
it all the time. It's all over the place. And he says it's not
soot, you can analyse it is not certain it's not any specific
mould. It's some weird alien stuff that is processing
everything and turning it into sand. Anyway, no, no, no, no,
don't
do an anyway. Are you kidding me? This is awesome. I'm looking
at the wiki page right now. There's a picture of Oh, no,
this is great. Oh, no, I love desertification. Oh, my
goodness. John, I love you. Thank you. So
keep you busy for the rest of the year, print it all out. So
anyway, so one of the things right did which I've always
found fascinating because the every once in a while some buddy
either runs into one of these things, or they build one or
something weird happens. These things called Cloud busters.
Oh, of course this is yeah. Yeah, I know about that. So a
cloud Buster
is a bunch of pipes that's grounded to a big lake, usually
some sort of freshwater source that you aim at, just aim it at
the sky and it forms a storm. Well, Wilhelm
Reich did a number of experiments where he actually
showed this working,
supposedly, and I've actually read a document documentation
from some guy who, who ran into his original equipment, and
cranked it up and aimed at across the water or someplace in
a big storm and lightning storm appeared and started.
And these are, these are literally like a series of
tubes. Right? There's
basically two lines. Yeah, moving them tubes, I think when
anyway, so but the way it's described the way cloud busters
described to and it's an egg, the way it works. Matches almost
just, you know, point for point checklist checkbox by checkbox,
what we experienced Friday night and Saturday morning. I mean, in
terms of the nature of it, I mean, ball storm, nobody
predicted it, it came in out of the blue, there's nothing else
around it doesn't seem to be part of it
wasn't just like a storm. I mean, you know, I have this
whole problem going on here where they're basically tearing
the neighbourhood down around me. So I'm sorry, I'm kind of
paying attention to construction noise to complain. And that's a
whole nother story, which we should get into a different
time. And at 830 I literally thought they had dropped one of
these huge, you know, like 40 foot drill bits onto the
concrete. I'm like, holy crap, what are these guys doing now?
And it was literally such a lot it was it was a real explosion.
Almost, and it woke me up. And I actually got out of bed, went to
the window through open the sash, and just to see what was
going on. And there was of course, nothing was happening
there. But then I saw the rain. I'm like my god, that was a
thunderbolt. It was one of the loudest I've ever heard in my
life.
Well, there's quite a few of them and they kept going on and
on and on and they were due to rain wasn't that severe there
was but there was hail involved. And so it was hail and rain and
lightning. I'm in the city you're a couple miles away. So
I'm about
eight miles from there. But whatever the case is, it was it
was all over the place, and it was flashing and it was like,
wow, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And, but then I went and
looked on the Sun satellite map and a 24 hour link.
So I can tell you what this was about. I mean, I have the theory
ready for you immediately. Clearly. Well, it's very
obvious. Saturday was September 12. And Glenn Beck had organised
all of these tea parties across the nation. So obviously, what
do you want to do we want to disrupt, disrupt the the people
from from protesting and marching, you create horrible
weather.
Nobody in San Francisco listens, the Glenn Beck pick the wrong
place.
Well, it's not haven't quite perfected the cloud busting yet.
They're working on it. They're trying, you know, I want to try
some of this cloud busting I'm sure someone out there someone
is there's got to be some mad scientist in the Bay Area who
has these series of pipes we can we can test with?
Well, I'm thinking if I here's what if I was gonna go with the
conspiracy ideas, and the cloud busting I think that it was
probably some crackpot up from Washington State, who came down
here to try to disrupt the cow Eastern Washington game, which
was going to be played in the Berkeley hills that day.
Of course, of course, it's entertainment related,
excellent. To try to slosh up the field. So they give the guys
a chance, even though it didn't work since Cal 159 to seven. And
so that didn't work out for him. Unless there was some other
event that maybe a pro
is thinking what else was going on out here on on the tour,
there must have been something else happening but it makes so
much sense. And by the way, there's a couple events I
wouldn't mind disrupting so I want to try these tubes.
Well, now the thing is, when you read about the tubes you they're
supposed to be it's supposed to be a dangerous because because
it involves this this mysterious Oregon energy, which also could
be for all you notice dark at version of dark energy, which is
the physicists always talking about. It involves in such
concentrations that if you don't ground these pipes, right,
essentially, it just sucks the life out and you find yourself
like looking like an old man who's dead in a week.
Oh, wait, don't tell me you get like old and grey all of a
sudden, John. Stay away from those pipes.
You know, that kind of thing. So I mean, so it's not just non
trivial. There are a bunch of people I have to say. There are
a bunch because everyone's Well, I don't bring this up much. And
I don't usually mention the fact that I know anything about it.
It's okay, I'm riveted please continue. Yes, I figured but I
tell you this that once you mention it, like we just did it
probably cut down a contribution to the show but you'll you'll
hear from a bunch of crackpots locals that are deeply into the
right stuff and they probably have all of his material and you
know because you know all the newsletters and all these crazy
things he which has all the documentation of the desert
desert defecation and all the rest of it and and the
construction details for the cloud busters. And they probably
you know, be glad to hear that exchange email
it's Adam at me veoh.com I would love to I would love to Hey,
John By the way, I've got something for you here Hello,
Kendall This is the pot calling. You are a crackpot man you're an
undercover crackpot
nope yeah you are so anyway but doubt you'll be hearing from
these people and you'll here's what you here's here's where
we're at the results is gonna be I can see coming a mile away.
Yeah, we'll have an Oregon energy box in your place what
this isn't the Oregon blankets
no I've seen although I have not ordered an Oregon box but I have
read it and I'm
the blankets are fine you can put it you can use them as a
as opposed to either protect or even cure you from cancer I
believe the Oregon
if anybody wants to experience Oregon energy this is a parlour
trick.
Wait, wait a minute, okay. I'm real. Okay, let me record Yes Go
get yourself a get you know, next time you have a can drink a
can of Coca Cola, which has the right coating inside which can
create this effect. And it has to be a can can of cola you
drink when you dump it. I get all the sing out and then stick
your finger into the can and you'll feel a warm like it's
warming up in there. You'll feel your finger warming up. And
that's Oregon energy. That's my guess. Yeah.
So what is it the carbonation or the corona? Talking about
an empty canvas. Wash it out. So there's no water in there?
Nothing.
Oh, okay. I got it. But I thought it was supposed to work
with wood or like this was the
one that way. The way it seems to work is that we're using a A
series of insulators that are stacked one another Yeah. Which
is one of the reasons some people will notice a difference
in their body temperature if they stack wool against silk
against cotton and they you know, and then you have the
layering effect as it were, yeah, but not but you can layer
cotton, cotton, cotton or wool, wool wool or cotton wool. But if
you put silk in there somewhere anywhere in the mix, or you have
like a different combination of things, you'll find the effect
to be somewhat interesting.
I am going to dedicate the next couple of days to looking into
orgone energy again, I remember you told me about this a year
ago and I was so fascinated and I was like, wow, this is
awesome. And please have a look and see if you can find some of
the missing documents which of course you have in that big pile
of crap, which is known as your house. I would love I would love
to read some of those missing documents.
Yeah, well if I run into one at you you'll be they'll go in your
box
in the in the chat room. No agenda chat.com People are
asking if it's Oregon energy or the sham while
your camera guy can we have the ShamWow take your finger in the
cocaine Yeah, just in
case you didn't know exactly what's going on here. This has
no agenda and here is our motto.
Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Alright,
so when you simple but effective for
me really does work. It really does work. And we were we were
having dinner and and i Let's bookmark that to talk about
dinner because it was a it wasn't bad. And at least worth
reviewing. And we we both realised that on Thursday show
it before the show had begun we had both already received links
and emails and or we had seen whatever copies of the video of
the acorn prostitutions Swindle. And, and we don't always agree
on the show, but I think we both agreed right off the bat that
that that thing is fake. Or it was
until the acorn people came out and fired those people.
Well, that still doesn't convince me and there's a couple
of things I want to say first of all, if you if you don't know
what this is about, then go to Fox news.com. You'll find out
real, real quick or big government.com An undercover
journalist and I'm going to do big air quotation marks here
along with a independent filmmaker. And this girl who who
acted in the in this in this video setup was I think about 20
The guy by the way, I don't think we know his name, but
haven't you know, haven't seen him
anywhere? No, I saw him he was on Glenn Beck.
Okay, because Hannah Giles, who is the the aspiring journalist
James O'Keefe is the name of the of the filmmaker. So what they
did is they if you haven't actually I think a lot of people
haven't heard about this, although most people who
listened to our show probably have they went into an acorn
office assured of that. And not just one but I think three they
did this three times at least two that I know of. And they
basically go in asking for help tax advice pitching themselves
as a prostitute and her pimp and not just any old prostitute, but
she wants to set up a brothel with illegal underage girls. I
mean, it just really it's unbelievable. The first thing
that I have to say, when looking at at this video, and how dumb
are you? When a girl who looks like Hannah Giles shows up and
says, I'm a prostitute? Because you know this is Elliott's if
she was a prostitute. She was Eliot Spitzer quality material.
I mean, this this girl looks so good. She would be a $5,000 a
night hooker. Not just some way
not look like a streetwalker weigh me she wasn't worn out
looking.
I mean, she was beautiful or she is beautiful. It totally I mean,
alarm bells would have been going off my head from the get
go is like oh, yeah, right. You're a hooker. Aha, Well,
funny. streetwalker let's get straight. I know my hookers she
could not have been a hooker no way it was just absolutely no
way.
You know, please please give
me a break and break. And and so I've watched the full unedited
tape which is pretty good or as they say on it. raw footage,
whatever. And it's it's quite lengthy. But I'm also looking at
how this thing is a shot and like, had that was you know,
I've seen lots of undercover footage. This was spectacularly
done. I mean, they're they're right on target everyone's
centre frame. I mean, how could this have been just what it
wasn't like a hat cam, or an eyeglasses cam? It must have
been a bag on the table but even then the shot all of a sudden
levitates you've got a shot from above looking down. JOHN My
feeling is I don't know about the Baltimore one but the Boston
one look you can hang up a an acorn sign anywhere and put a
couple of dump room and make this up. And clearly this Hannah
Giles she must have been working for Fox or for Glenn Beck or
I've even seen I was watching what's that show red eye which
is on that night on Fox? Where that weird guy with
a weird guy on fire? Go figure.
And he had What's your name cups? Is that a journalist cups?
No, we're talking about why anyway,
she said she slipped up. I think she's also a fox stringer or
journalist. She says, Well, you know, Hannah's a really good
friend of mine. I'm like, wait a minute. has really Yeah, and I
recorded it but of course I didn't have time to pull the
clip. I was like well that's
because I've got the clip of the two of them being interviewed by
Beck we'll do that on Thursday. And you pull that clip because
that makes things really interesting if that's true here
here's the way why saw the two of them with the last interview
they did it was on back and they had a hammer and the guy with
whatever his name is what you have it Okay, James O'Keefe
O'Keefe, James, Jim James, who's a real kind of a mate he's kind
of a thin emaciated character you know that just he's just he
just seems like a phlegmatic or something. You know, just to
kind of a nervous John Doerr like guy
Oh, that's great. Let's let's let's compare this guy to one of
my main investors. Thank you.
No, I'm just saying in terms of his bought his physique skews
thin and and shaky. And
keep going. Keep going, please, is good.
So and Hannah is this you know, she's 20. So she's not.
Oh, there's the 10 o'clock.
I can't hear it goes. I heard you're 20 years old. And she's
She is very pretty.
She is horrible. She is a horrible speaker for someone who
wants to be a journalist. She
wasn't I was surprised. He wasn't as bad as what as you
described her when it comes to her. She's gotten better and
worse. She might but she said that it was her idea. Yes, she
says she was
I was jogging. And then I saw some acorn people and I thought
hey, why don't I go scam them? I'm like, Huh,
well, the way she said it, she she said the way she I saw
her first appearance on Glenn Beck so I think she's probably
honed her story a little bit since
her own story is that she's first she saw some acorn
projects, some places that I guess they were somehow behind.
And then she saw the offices and thought they were kind of shabby
and wonder where all his money was going and wonder what the
hell what the deal was and she decided to go in there and run
his scam on him. And just Yeah, apparently she did it at more
than one office.
Yeah, she did it in Baltimore. And I think there was another
one
well now that one in Baltimore is interesting because a lot of
travelling Boston to Baltimore you know it's just very
elaborate and she says she used all of her savings
to do oh there's something there's something fishy too
many loose ends it really is and I love it when we can when we
want you know when Adam and John come up with a conspiracy theory
about something as beautiful as screwing a corn because of
course I love it right? Is it what what a fantastic setup but
it smells wrong to me it really does.
So meanwhile, the thing that really is going to be
interesting is to see how they deal with the fact that the
district attorney may be looking into like this taping as some
sort of illegally obtained Oh Jesus. Oh, okay. Yeah, the
penalty for unlock the apparent here's the way it goes if to
determine that the art is but the audio portion portion only
of the you took to video if it was illegally obtained. It would
be illegal under Maryland law and they by the way, they need
these laws in Maryland and elsewhere to protect corrupt
officials
who do exactly the same thing.
There's there's a corruption problem in the in the United
States of America that needs to be protected by these laws that
say you can't record somebody when they are when they're doing
something illegal. Yeah, by the way, I mean, the police camera
they need a warrant even for that but I mean, this is in the
open air. It seems to me that if you're standing in some place
and you're You're talking to me. I should be able to record that
conversation.
You know that this is interesting, John because I was
watching. Oh my god, I have no life Mickey's not here. I was
watching Geraldo last night. No. Yes. Yes. And so they were
talking about the, the ESPN sportscaster who was filmed
naked in her hotel room. You know that story, right.
abate? Yeah. You know, I kind of Dude, I
gotta send you the link, you got to see the video. Oh, my God.
This is, this is the awesomest video I've ever seen. So anyway,
Geraldo is sitting there saying because they wanted to have like
some some failed lawyer. It was like, Well, you know, there's
you can't just illegally videotape people through
people's and blah, blah, blah. And Geraldo. I couldn't believe
he was saying, Well, no, that's not illegal. You can do that he
was actually defending PETA videos on like, of course he is
because he wants to build a precedence. For this, I presume
Fox setup of the acorn video. And so this is going to be a
debate right now. Look, you can't wiretap people. You can't
videotape people while I'm sorry, in America, you can
apparently wiretap people, but this will be a debate I think
we're onto something here is this I
think it's gonna distinct is gonna come to a head these
people are going to be in the centre of it. But anyway, a
violation of Maryland law, the annotated code of Maryland
courts and judicial proceedings article 10 402, which requires
two party consent. The penalty for the unlawful interception of
the audio disclosure or use is a felony punishable up from up to
five years in jail.
I don't understand how does this work? You know, I've I've been
reading the book The informant, which is about the Archer
Daniels Midland price fixing scandal of the of the 80s which,
by the way, is coming out September 18. As a movie with
Matt Damon, I will be doing a review on Thursday of the book.
This is all about the illegal wiretapping and recording. And I
think you'll see that this is big this is going to be a major
major point of discussion. particularly as it pertains to
wiretapping to the Erin Andrews people video to the acorn
recording
was Erin Andreessen and
oh my god she's she is so mad. And at one point she bends over
the bathtub John
wonder via she's like, Yeah, she probably didn't want this. Oh,
hold on a second. I just got a Job, Job. Job. jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Sorry, I just had to disrupt myself for a second otherwise,
I'll never get off it. I'm getting you
a link to the chia pet photos and Nancy Pelosi do help too. By
the way.
She's got a nice rack. Who Nancy Pelosi?
I know. But I'm just saying if you know, not an exciting woman.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand.
Yeah, the Erin Andrews. Yeah. Okay, well sent me that link
after check this out just to see if it maybe it's a fake.
Oh, no, no, it's not. I'm going to send you the what they did.
Apparently, I'm gonna send you the Google Video page. What they
apparently did is they reversed the people. You know, the Spy
Glass Door people they reverse people doing it in a bathroom?
No, no.
She's in her hotel room. So there's two videos.
Oh, she's in her hotel room. thing around? Yeah,
they flipped it around as they held up the camera, by the way
came from
a Seinfeld episode. Oh, really? Yeah, they
Oh life imitates art. I love it.
This Kramer had a P poll and he decided that it would be wise to
reverse it. And Jerry kept us in Weiss's because what somebody
might be inside ready to sneak up on me. So I can look inside
before I go in.
Well, you know, Erin, Erin Andrews has been on Oprah. And
it was you know how Bill O'Reilly does that facial
expression segment where he has some so called experts saying
well look at how this person responds now and they slow it
down. And this is what this body movement means. This is what the
raising of the eyebrows mean. So the the assertion in that
segment that he had was that she really isn't too disturbed by
this video and the and the attention it has garnered her
Yeah, I don't That's what I was. First thing I was I was I would
think it was because and it because it goes back to the
Paris Hilton and all the rest of these women's huge publicity and
you say
that and if you look at Erin Andrews, she has a bit of Paris
Hilton look in her face I might add.
And she, you know, the other thing is typically the women who
do this, it's not as though she's a fat pig that's
embarrassed by them.
Although I will say that if that had happened to me, first of
all, that would be very sad and hurtful for most people's eyes.
But down your speakers,
I got to show low now, it's ridiculous. That wasn't me. Or
you're yelling? Well,
I'm excited to tell you. If I travelled a lot, and I was in
hotel rooms a lot, which I am, and this had happened to me, I
definitely would be, you know, worried every single time. You
know, that's a knowing that that could happen to you. That's
freaky. I mean, that could definitely freak anyone out. So
I don't want this for her. Because you know, shit. I mean,
it's wrong.
You want my advice? Yeah. Check the people.
Yeah, people check is good. Now there's many.
I always check the people anyway, just want to see what
you know, look at you know, look through it to see if the you
know what you can see. I'm trying
to think what it was in the UK. It was in the UK. Many, many
years ago, some guy was bringing a trial. Again, it was like some
sex offender trust something about porn. And they put a
camera in this guy's hotel room. And they basically filmed him
masturbating to porn movies. You know? I gotta I gotta look that
story up. It was a good one.
So I'm looking at I go to I put Erin Andrews in Google and then
hit the images. Holy crap, oil. Yeah, she's beautiful. She's got
a nice figure,
oh, my God, she's beautiful. And but you know, you know how a lot
of women and we should get off this topic. But a lot of women
where they don't know they're being filmed. And this is
something there's something to be said for this. When they
don't know they're being filmed. There. Really, you know, the gut
comes out a little bit. They do kind of, they do kind of not
really attractive stuff. You know, it's like, they're like
human beings. But when they know, but when they know that
they're being looked at the gut is in there standing straight
there twirling their hair. I know. I'm just saying. I'm just
saying.
wishy washy. Do you think by observing this video, which I
won't look at during this video, would you analyse it as though
she knew she was being filmed?
I would say it's possible.
Because she kept the gut in and she was like always looking
good.
Yes, I would. I would say it's possible I would say. Again,
it's a horrible thing for this to happen. I mean, I even when I
was papped paparazzi a couple times in, in Holland in actually
in situations outside. But you know, stuff that was in personal
situations. And and then you see the show up in a magazine, like,
oh my god, you know, I really didn't know there was someone
there waiting for me looking for me and taking my picture. And
no, and it feels weird. I mean, this has been going on since
I've been 19. But it's like, oh, shit, man. It's just you feel a
little violated. It really is a creepy feeling. So I'm all I'm
all for that. But that, of course, is why celebrities make
the big bucks.
So here's the Aaron Anderson on the cover of F H. M magazine. I
sent you the link.
Is this new?
No. I don't know if it's new or not. I mean, I think I've seen
her work, you know, on and off on. And yeah, it's it's
business. Is
she good? She's a good journalist. She
thing is, I mean, I don't remember her. I mean, there's a
bunch of ones I thought are pretty good. There's one in
particular this blonde. I can't remember her name offhand. But
she's kind of interesting, because she's, I can't remember
her name. But she I think she's still at ESPN. She's
interesting, cuz she moves in and cosies up to the players and
actually pushes herself up. She's like a masher. I like it.
I like it. And the guys are like, you know, they show
they're very
what are the guys one of the guys like, John,
they get tense, rocker and stuff. All right,
well, let's move on for this. But let's keep our eye on it. So
a couple of things. First of all, the legality of taping
someone. And I've always understood by the way, that you
are not allowed. And I think this is true pretty much
everywhere. It's like and of course there are human rights.
And unless of course, you're the prince and princess of the
Netherlands, then you can't take any pictures or publish them. No
matter what you're doing. You know, you have to have the New
World Order power to stop that. But otherwise, I believe there's
going to be a big broad discussion About Is it legal to
film someone is illegal to film someone if their celebrity is
illegal to film or photograph someone if they're in the
privacy of their own home? Is a hotel room considered your home
temporarily? And this will be a discussion it's coming up Mark
my words.
Well, that thing with Erin Andrews is obviously illegal,
because that's like go shooting pictures through the window. The
thing with the taping or the getting the vocal off of a
YouTube clip, or from a movie that you took, I think a state
to state I think that more corrupt states like Maryland
apparently would have more of these laws in other states,
because look at what 60 minutes does, and all these other was
about to catch a predator. It's okay if you know if it's a
predator, but it's not going to be
I think they run those shows in states where that law doesn't
exist. I think this is this is not a federal law. We're talking
I think most of those shows are rigged. John, that's all right.
Yeah.
No, I think a lot of the shows are rigged. Although they can
find the my favourite get your predator which I think is a
sleazy show. Is the is they had they cut one guy and then like
three weeks later, they cut the same guy. Yeah, this cross eyed
little twerp does like a like a you know, he's going to run
seeing some believable
for me the takeaway from this and as I said, I'm home alone
right now, although actually my daughter's coming out next week.
It's gonna be great. It's gonna be here for a while in the Bay
Area. My takeaway is that, you know, we never watch television.
Really. There's a couple of things we watch, you know,
Mickey forces me to watch Real Time with Bill Maher. But that's
great, because I get to go Oh, brother all the time.
I guess it just gets worse by the
week. Yeah, more about that in the moment. And then, from time
to time, we'll watch Real Housewives of dot dot dot. But I
find myself with plenty of stuff to do on the couch. And before
you know what four hours is past four hours. I'm like I said,
I've been completely hypnotised. I'm sitting here is lethargic.
Noob. And I'm like, and I have been in television. Even in
1982. We were faking shit on television. Yeah, I have a
satellite interview with Janet Jackson bullshit. I was just
typing my questions in the answers of an electronic press
kit, which by the way, came on videotape.
And by the way, most of the PBS you hear these all the time.
They're not as much as you used to. They used to come on vinyl.
You used to get these things at the radio.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You get the you get it? Three times. And it
would be all cruddy. Right? You
had to just you've got to do what you had your main guy at
the station. You put the vinyl thing on, and he would interview
this person who has just a bunch of clips, which by the way, is
where it's where I think it's the show, the TV show later
called Space Ghost, kind of did a take off on this on a cable
network where they were they would take these interviews, and
then they would just take the answers and then just then redo
the question. So they're crazy. Well, like
the Jon Stewart show. It's the when, when what's her name?
Samantha Bee goes and interviews, politicians. And
then she has and she does all the crazy questions. And then
they have the answers. Edited in
the GI were the dumb looks. I mean,
if people don't really know how, and here's how it works. So how
it used to work, you go to interview somebody, and this
still happens this way every single day. It's a one camera
shot, right? And then you see the conversation on television
and you see the over the shoulder from the interviewer
and then you'll it'll switch back and you see the
interviewers questions, which is called B roll. And that's what
it's referred well we call it noddy's. In fact, most pa
certainly politicians but most celebrities, no, you get you do
the interview, the interview is done with the camera over the
interviewers shoulder. And then after the interview is done. You
always have about five minutes left and the producers who was
there will say okay, we need to do some noddy's. And what that
means is that didn't reverse the angle put it behind the
celebrity, so that you have the interviewer nodding going, huh?
Yeah, yeah, interesting. And then also when the celebrity
then leaves, then they'll keep that camera shot and the
interviewer will ask all of the questions again. And then that's
edited together to give you the impression that there's an
actual conversation going on shot shot with multiple cameras.
Oftentimes, you can see that the either the person answering or
the or the person asking the question, you'll see their mouth
or the side of their face moving not in sync with the words
oftentimes time right. I have never seen an interview done
that with that technique where you haven't seen that it is time
it is time for me once again. I do it just about once every
year, the Zen TV experiment. You must read this article All
right, I'm going to put it in the show notes at no agenda
show.com The Zen TV experiment really helps you understand and
gives you a number of that. Hey, last time I posted this was one
that I post this July 15 2007. Wow, I skipped a year. I guess.
I'm gonna put that in the show notes. It gives you a couple of
extra year. Yeah, it gives you a couple of exercises. So you can
understand how television fools you consistently. I mean,
consistently. And I just realised yesterday, nothing is
real. It is. This is the matrix. This is the matrix.
So anyway, when I was at Tech TV, we used to do the silicon
spin show. And so they kept redesigning it because the guy
who was running the network just thought that Chris Matthews was
the greatest guy in the world. And he was on the channel the
same time I was on. So he always you never watch my show ever.
Because he's just watching Chris Madden. So one day, they decided
to change the format of the show completely. So it was like
basically fashion after Chris, Chris Matthews. And so they have
but we had to have satellite feeds out of these view remotes.
So they brought they brought these people into the studio and
sat him in a chair across the studio with a camera on them and
put them in a box as though they were
remote. Well, that's like the, you know, there's legendary
YouTube footage. Of I think Gulf War One, where the guys are in a
blue screen studio putting on their gas masks and helmets,
like there's going to be a chemical attack that literally
it's it's the it's, well, it wasn't green screen in in those
days, it was blue screen that literally in a blue screen box.
That's supposed to be the hotel lobby of the Baghdad Hilton. And
they've got they do have a real tree like a lobby palm tree
sitting there. And they're like, Oh, they're running around. But
it's in a studio. I mean, this this trickery is
I mean, even on the remote, if you remember, there's a bunch of
YouTube videos about you know, the person doing there. Oh, we
have this huge flood and it's like you have a job. And then a
guy walks by and waiters, you know, it's like, it's thick.
Yeah, well, so turn it off as what I'd say. And the only thing
that really works is live television. And even that, even
that is tricked out to no end these days. There's so good. I
mean, there's so good. Do you remember that? Was that flight
504 or whatever? That Was that awesome video, which came out
around 2002 where the there's a guy driving on the highway and
all of a sudden this plane lands on the highway right behind him.
You know, I don't remember that.
I'll have to look that up. I think it was flight 504 It's a
joke is basically it's a joke video, but it is so well done.
And when you realise what what is possible as far back as 2002
or dare I say as far back as
if you want to see what's possible. I mean, the place I
think the first movie that exploited this to the max, not
in terms of CG, you know, like Star Wars but in terms of like
faking reality was the western movie with Tom Hanks where he
played the running guy was an idiot. Forrest Gump, Forrest
Gump, there is just scenes in there that are just I mean 1000s
of birds and all these things that never existed in the real
world that looks absolutely fan it looks absolutely real. I
mean, now the giant war movies they have people that are you
know, it looks like they're fighting in the background and
also there's nobody there. I mean, that the whole thing is
gotten to the point where you can just create reality and I
think the Wag the Dog kind of told that this story about how
you how you can do this.
John, thank you you I have I have led you down exactly to
where I want you to be.
What a wag the dog Yes,
because my belief is that it was missiles that hit the Twin
Towers and people what you saw everyone says they saw the
planes hit they saw it on television, there were only five
video feeds available at the time. All used by the same
networks. There was a 17 second delay in the lot quote Live Feed
My belief is that video trickery was used on 911
cc sad I love Gallo so yeah, then you sent me a link to this
horrible film run by a bunch of
I gave you the film only for the aviation pieces because I as a
as an airman fundamentally disagree with what is the
official story in the 911 Commission Report and the NIST
report. The only the aviation pieces the speed of air crashed
at the altitude they were flying the manoeuvres being made. I
only seen the video of course, the crackpot video. But if a
there's no other way to convey this information to non
aviators, you know, if you don't even even the black box data
which was sent by the government, right, it just
doesn't add up the plane that flew in the plane that flew into
the Pentagon, actually over fluid by 250 feet, according to
their own data. Because they forgot to adjust the or Dr the
data for the altitude pressure setting on that very day. So
this is that's I'm not saying anything else than that, that as
an aviator as an airman, their data does not add up. And they
gotta clear that up for me until you do that. I don't believe
anything else that's in there.
Well, that's fine. But I tell you this, there's no way that
after that first building was hit missile or no missile, that
everybody in New York City wasn't looking up at that at
those two towers. And the second plane came in new realignment in
its low speed,
missile and there and there are hundreds of mainstream media
news reports of people saying it was a small plane, it looked
like a Cessna. It was it looked like something military. And
when you look in the sky, you know how hard it is to determine
the size of an object when you look in the sky. A cruise
missile can easily easily be mistaken for an aeroplane.
Particularly if you're looking for an aeroplane it's gonna look
like an aeroplane. But why would you be looking for an aeroplane?
Because cuz you just heard that an aeroplane hit the first
tower. So look at
the 1000s of people that weren't watching television that were
down on the ground looking up.
And those people are on record saying it looked like
airborne. That's all it that's just starting to show up on
record. I'd like to hear from some people. We have listeners
that, you know, I'm not buying all these crazy reports that
come in from these crackpots, who are obviously nutcases,
because you can just see, take a look at their own websites. And
these people are unbalanced. And so they go find people that
said, you know, there's people that will just say anything,
because you can I can go out in the street right now and have it
just say, hey, here's what I want you to say. Can you do
that? Oh, yes,
of course, you can. Of course, I totally agree. So let's just
take us, let's take it away from the video. Let's just forget the
fact that if you watch the official news footage, that the
of the second tower, that the nose of the aeroplane that goes
in comes out the other side intact, you can actually see it
coming out the other side of the building with the nose intact.
Okay, so something's doctored somewhere, either in these, so
maybe it's a bogus recording of the video, maybe it was
something that was done live in the 17 second delay, it doesn't
matter. It really doesn't matter. All I'm saying is things
like the flight path from the flight data recorder, which by
the way, rebooted 18 times in the short flight it was it was
it made the claim or assertion that a 737 can fly at 550 miles
an hour at 1500 feet is bullshit. It is physically
impossible, the engines will not even stay lit, the wings would
be ripped off, you cannot do that. It is just not possible.
So they have to either explain to me why they came up with that
number. And how about those phone calls about this? There
were no air phones on those aircraft in 2002. They had been
taken out. And there was no technology to make cell phone
calls from aeroplanes at the time. Yet we have 1020 30
different recordings people calling back. That's technology
that just wasn't there at the time. That's all I'm saying. I
know aviation. That's all I know, the manoeuvres that were
made no frickin way
I think you've made yourself clear on this point more than a
few times.
Let's move on. Did you hear about the big explosion in
Ontario?
No, I have not heard about a big explosion in Ontario. The
pipeline.
The Trans Canada natural gas pipeline blew up.
Oh, did she? I
mean what why did we hear about this right?
This is news to me.
I know why would you why would we put that on the air and we've
got Aaron naked Give me a break.
Nothing to see here.
Yeah, I got don't look over here. Nothing to see. Look at
that an explosion along the Trans Canada National Natural
gas line in northern Ontario on Saturday sent a huge column of
fire into the sky. One man who was two miles away it actually
sent him and his two sons flying through the air. God Let me see
what the pillar of fire are about 200 metres high, that's
600 feet possibly higher. So they, they literally blew up a
piece of the pipeline, which I presume is kind of important.
Yeah, that's amazing. They can fix those things as fast as
they, as they can. Oh, really? Yeah.
Well, I just find it because don't isn't Canada a Canadian
gas important? Or is it only the oil that's important that comes
from Canada?
Now we both win that we somebody asked in oil would not
be something to say like, Hey, damn, we got to shore this up.
We got to do something.
I don't know. Maybe they don't want maybe they don't want us to
say to say these things. We're just let me just do a little.
Let's get you know, that's, there's a couple of Go ahead.
Well, I lost my train of thought just in the middle of it.
Step away from the
machine, these rays coming through the window. I don't know
what they are. Step away
from the Oregon machine. Calgary Sun Trans Canada like this. Like
there's not a single I don't see a single US Publication
reporting on this.
This is okay, I got my thought that this has reminded me of the
numerous breaks in the various pieces of fibre around the
country that have been caused by vandalism as they as they like
to Oh, right. Right, right. And I'm totally convinced that
there's somebody or some group or somebody is testing the
network into another words, if you braid, let's see, let's say
if I break the fibre here, here and here, what are the results?
Okay, I see what the results are. And then I break the fibre
here and here. What are there is another reason I'm reverse
engineering the grid in such a way that I know which two or
three places to break permanently to bring down the
net. Right. And nobody reports on this because it's I don't
know why I'm I wrote it up on a Twitter thing for people to
report to me when they had local events.
And then Twitter and Twitter went down.
I got a whole bunch of them. I mean, people said, Well, yeah,
there's one in Chicago, there's one over here, I'm in
Louisville, Kentucky that happened, blah, blah, blah. And
it's just one and they're just scattered all over the place. So
it's not like you can put your finger on, you know, on
anything, because it's like, you know, local event here local
event there because we don't you know, there are national news
doesn't really try to consolidate many little local
things that are coincidental. So you could get out you could do a
lot of research in this in the country, because it's so big, by
doing little local things like Rabobank are, are
a good idea kids got robbed the bank.
I mean, because if you know if a bank is robbed in Charleston,
South Carolina, and like they shoot everybody in the bank or
gas or they do something weird, like they use sarin gas at the
bank robbery or something strange, and then in the network
news doesn't pick it up, and they won't because it's just in
Charleston. You don't know that, you know, this is part of a
bigger scheme, because you're never gonna hear about it.
You're not gonna hear about in Houston, well, but
even things that happen in in our nation's capital, you don't
really even hear about, you may have heard briefly, just
briefly, about the panic on the Potomac. You didn't even hear
about that. Did
you know I remember something about it.
Okay. So all of a sudden, briefly, though, because it
immediately got squashed. There was this report that a Coast
Guard? Oh, right. Right. Right. Right. Coast Guard boat was
firing on a private craft.
Well, hold on a sec, which is funny in itself.
Well, it's funny, unless you think that I believe there was
actually an assassination attempt on the president. And
I'll tell you why. First of all, the way we go, yeah, well, the
way this was passed off, is that the Coast Guard was on 911 that
the Coast Guard was doing a drill a practice with the, you
know, firing guns, but in reality, the President was about
to cry in his motorcade was about to cross the bridge on I
think it's, I 395 have to look that up in a moment. And at the
exact same moment, as he's as his motorcade is approaching
this bridge, which then the Coast Guard starts, well, this
is what I think happened. They start firing on this private
craft. And it is my belief that there was a plot to blow up the
bridge at the moment the President's motorcade crossed
it. And even if that's a crazy crackpot theory, it's at least
worth mentioning that all this stuff took place when the
President was going right over this so called exercise, and
there is one, the Baltimore Sun reported on it. And they at
least have some of the facts. Let me see During the exercise,
which began at 9:30am, for 25 foot patrol craft churned up the
surface of the river while a Coast Guard helicopter zoomed
overhead. Now CNN unaware that it was only a simulated
confrontation, which was monitoring police radio
frequencies relayed the Coast Guard conversations to an
audience to his audience. Within minutes, Reuters news agency and
Fox News Channel picked up the CNN story. So then it was like,
Oh, my God, there's something going on here. They stopped
traffic at Dulles Airport, you know, there's like, they shut
everything down. And then immediately the word goes out.
No, no, no, no, not. Over here. Nothing to see. Look at that.
And then they retracted the story. But President Barack
Obama who attended the Pentagon ceremony with his wife, Michelle
crossed the Potomac bridge close to the scene around the time
that the exercise was underway. Okay, so that's according to the
Baltimore Sun, I believe that there was an assassination
attempt on the president. It is certainly not unthinkable.
No, that mean that presidents today are there's constant
plotting going on? This is why the Secret Service is like so
you know, has to be so?
Well, I'll take it one step further. I think that the CIA, I
think the CIA and are at war, technically with the Obama
administration.
Well, and I think it's interesting,
I think, I think CIA is still pretty much the Chinese boys and
bushes, boys. And maybe even Bill Clinton's boys to some to
some degree, and they are like, they're just not taking any
shit. They're not listening to him. That's why Obama has his
own little force that he set up to build Oh, CIA can interview
interrogate terrorists anymore. No, my guys are gonna do that. I
think there's a war going on between the CIA and the Obama
administration.
You know, I've heard Stranger Things. It's a possibility. But
you know, they're gonna they're gonna have you know, that. I
don't know. That's a good thing. I like the idea of the kid you
did the whole thing was a little sketchy this this coast guard
thing? And then somebody got reprimanded for what what were
you thinking? It was 911. And it's the same thing is make any
sense? Yeah. It's
like, Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't I didn't mean for the for Air
Force One to fly so close to Manhattan and circle around, you
know, oh, that was just stupid. We'll fire the guy or he'll
resign. No, no, I don't believe this shit. I really, really,
really don't. And this stuff with other leaders.
The Air Force One incident flying around Manhattan that
day, was is a good example of, I mean, there was actually
Saturday night life live just did a rerun last night, on that
day that took place during that incident. And they made this
point, which is very easy to wire, the wires just think
flying around at all. You can photoshop it anywhere. And they
showed it. photoshopped. Yeah. You know, in a bathroom.
trickery. Exactly. So why is
that? What's the point of actually having to take these,
these pictures when you can just fake it? Well, that won't work.
By the way, you know, it's playing a 747 around for a half
hour is not it's expensive. I mean, you can have Photoshop
experts in the world that do a better job. Yeah, I suppose it
would be a better it'd be a better job.
And I will say that these theories that run around in my
head about the CIA and Obama actually lead me to believe or
to at least consider that Obama is kind of a good guy and try
and actually trying to make something good happen. But he
ain't gonna get too far with the CIA killed JFK. We all know
that, you know, it's, forget about it.
Well, we'll see. The I don't think you can afford to us I
don't think you can. I don't think the government can afford
to assassinate a black president. The repercussions
would be ridiculous. So I tell you something actually
protected. I think you'd be more likely to be protected.
Yeah, but I'll tell you something that I've also
noticed, and maybe this ties into it. And boy, we're really
on our crackpot role today, aren't we?
Yeah. Why do you start with the Wilhelm Reich?
Well, thanks, I appreciate it. Watching Real Time with Bill
Maher on Friday night and I do not like this programme. I'm
actually sometimes Maher says something like okay, I'm done
with that. I agree with that. But here's what he's he's saying
more and more and more and he had Kathy Gryphon on who
actually said it out loud or several, a couple of times. It
appears now, this is kind of the mean, if you are against Obama,
or if you yell you lie at an address to the joint house,
either by the way, just as an aside, in the Parliament of
Great Britain and Canada or Canada, they do that all the
time. They it's like you're crazy not to do and you actually
say,
but it's different. There is a difference because the way they
do it is the honourable gentleman is Elia you have to
remember you haven't seen the Canadian Parliament the Canadian
problem is completely out of control the you saw
as i Same thing is happening in Australia as well by the way,
they've had a couple of big fights there but anyway, we
digress. If you are against Obama, you these days are pretty
much deemed a racist. And this is what Bill Maher does. If you
have a chance, John, if you have a chance to look at a replay
otherwise I haven't recorded
and I'll look at his plays all week doing Bill
Maher is saying this. You can you can watch the beginning the
middle of the end, you can fast forward every single time he
says these people aren't against his policies. They just don't
like the idea of a black man in the White House. And I think
this is wrong. This is a meme that I am very, very afraid of.
Because this is a perfect setup to assassinate the first black
president and then start an all out godforsaken fucked up civil
war in the United States. It's a setup it is a setup and Coulter
saying it of all people. But Bill Maher man ever in his in
his monologue in his interviews and his panel discussion. It's
always like date they the conservatives, but that he means
Republicans. They just don't like the idea of a black man in
the White House. He's saying it's straight up. And that to me
in itself is a racist comment. And it's incendiary. It's it's
so wrong on so many levels, and no one's calling him out on it.
Let me call him up. Bill Maher stop that shit. You dick. Stop
it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.
Yeah, I think you got a point there. I've noticed this too.
And Mark, of course, I can't take it anymore. Anyway. Of
course, you have to wonder why he's even got this show.
Thank you. Good. Another good point.
Because he's not the best of breed.
Do we remember? Do we remember Bill Maher? What happened? Most
people don't remember this. John, you and I are both old
enough. On December maybe was December, September either 11th.
Probably the 12th or the 13th. He had a show in New York. It
was a I think it was a network show. But it was
it was on ABC. Politically Correct. Politically Incorrect.
Incorrect. Right. And he was bullshit because it was so
politically correct is ridiculous. No, it
was I think it was called politically incorrect. No, I
know. But I'm just saying Right. It wasn't politically incorrect.
And
he said on his show, he said, you know, actually, the real
heroes here are the terrorists. It takes a lot of balls to use
box cutters to hijack a plane. And then and then fly it to your
death into a tower. This guy, it was the outrage of the week, he
got kicked off the air immediately sponsors pulled out
from the entire network. And this guy was he I think he went
to live in Australia for a year or two. Literally, he left the
country, didn't he? I think he had to actually leave the
country.
Well, he also don't forget to add insult to injury he called
American soldiers cowards for using cruise missiles. Instead
of having the balls to go in there with a box cutters or
whatever it was. I actually watched
that show. I watched the show too. I was in and I was sitting
there was going like, Well, I understand your point. But it
was a giant that my jaw hit the course. I was like, Dude, you
just killed You're so naive to say this at this moment. He is
fucked.
And he was and now he's back with all of this. Nah. And how
did he get that? How could anyone say You know what? I
think? I think I'll take you on that. I think it was show.
That's really good. Let's bring back Bill Maher. How quickly we
forget when we're in shock. Because that we're still in
shock from 911. We are completely in shock, which is
how the financial terrorists were able to go and steal our
money. And why now it's happening this thing I really
believe in whether there's a global yours.
You're suggesting that Mar is a stew Yes. Oh, yeah. Or a bag man
for some other intellectual bag, man, let's say yeah, for some
other group that has an agenda.
And something else interesting happened on the show he had on
his programme, Governor and Governor, Congressman Anthony
Weiner. And what's interesting about wiener is that in 90,
early 90s, he was a councilman in New York in Brooklyn, I
believe. And CNN asked me to do an episode of one of their kind
of hip political programmes and their and their idea was let's
have the young MTV guy. Go interview the young councilman,
so I hung out with him for a whole day. As I interviewed him
on the street meeting old people, I interviewed him in a
pool hall and isn't his neighbourhood pool hall, but he
was Chuck Schumer's boy. And so I actually went and interviewed
Chuck Schumer. And I'll never forget that interview because I
had my questions, but I really was not aware politically, and I
didn't know shit. Not that I know anything now, but certainly
a lot less. And I remember these questions that CNN and basically
given me given me, and I asked a couple of questions, and they
must have been real, like softballs or something, and
Schumer just rip me an asshole. And I was like, Oh, my God, you
know, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about here. This guy
is running circle me. This is not you know, Madonna, who I'm
interviewing this. This is a dude who really knows what he's
saying. And watch this guy. Watch. And watch Anthony Weiner,
very interesting guy. Actually, not pro Obama, pro presidency in
general, had some really interesting things to say about
about health care stuff that you and I would actually agree with,
and kind of like, John, but it was, it's very fun for me to see
how Chuck Schumer's guy is set up. And now he's brought into
Bill Maher show, watch this guy, watch this guy, he's going to
rise very quickly to stardom. And he literally came from the
east of the Bronx or Brooklyn, I can't remember, as a councilman
he and I don't know how all of a sudden, you know, like 15 years
later, that guy's a Congressman, I don't remember that happening
is very, very interesting. And it just to me adds more fuel to
the fire that burns inside me that that all that we know
nothing. We know nothing about how it actually works. And it's
a big game, and we're not in it. Politics is show business for
Ugly people.
Well, we're not in it. But for one thing I that people out
there who listen to this show, we have plenty of listeners, and
a lot of them got to give us money. One thing for sure we are
we're decent, not probably the best in the world. But we're
because we you know, have some personality. We're decent at
deconstructing as best we can some of these things that take
place in front of us. In fact, I think the deconstruction of the
SEIU thing we did last week, or you did actually you came up
with it was just a stunner. And some of these other things,
these these theoretical is that we're dreaming up as we try to
make sense of the world. Well, make sense out of things like
you know, and let's ask the question again, why is Bill
Maher on HBO at all? Not that he doesn't deserve to work? It's
just that he's not the best of breed for that kind of a show.
Why is he Why is he on that show? I mean, out of the blue
after doing what he did on the other show, which is burn the
basically burn the network and burn the sponsors.
And so Bill Maher, Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, that was
the dude with the big head on MSNBC, Olbermann, these guys are
making millions and millions of dollars. We're sitting here
twice a week, it's about three hours, we have no writers, we
have no staff, where I think we're actually some I certainly
I feel we put ourselves out there in some form of peril. In
many ways. I mean, if we were important be pied and this show,
you will never, ever, ever hear a show like this on the radio,
you'll never see a show like this on television, you may see
some bits of it written about here and there, but probably
only on the internet, you'll never see it in the New York
Times. And I agree, John, the value that we provide by
deconstructing telling you how television works, telling you
how media works, both having, you know, a combined 4050 years
of experience in the business, you can't get anywhere, and we'd
like to do more of it. And people do support us and we
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I'm not going to sit around and do this shit for free. I want to
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sometimes it's great when I get an email from from a 16 or 17
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to dinner and review them which we should probably do before we
shut down the show. And by the way, I can't I'd be remiss if I
didn't mention that there's a tutor the head we have to talk
about before we shut down.
Okay, well, let me go and mention some some names that are
some of our contributors this week.
Are you regurgitating your notes?
So I don't have the sound effects machine anyway. But we
did get a lot of people that helped us out this week and I
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We'd like to mention Kevin Hartl. $51 in Roscoe,
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Andrew Tong from Hong Kong gave us 8964 which has some meaning.
You can try to figure it out. Why continue? Neil Liston who's
in Edinburg? Is there a place lo Theuns. UK? Yeah.
Both Ian's Okay. Well, you
gave us 75 bucks. Thanks, Neil 8964 as a graphics card 8964 for
maybe He's the inventor of it. Andrew Tong. Anyway, William
Arcand $123.45, which is actually 12345 pretty curious.
Yeah, he's in Dracut or Dre cut. Massachusetts. Richard Howard
gave us $150. And he's in the ritzy neighbourhood of Prospect
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we have Stan van de Burke bu rgt. From the birth. Yeah, yeah.
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And she can correct me if I'm wrong, where she from Calgary,
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people have been
to the Calgary Stampede. I did a an MTV shoot up there. That's
fascinating.
I've been wanting to go it's supposed to be one of the great
show I got. I still have.
They gave me because you know when you're the MTV guy, they
gave me a huge Calgary Stampede belt buckle, which I still have
somewhere probably right underneath the pile of the
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That's where it is. Yeah, right. Sure.
I agree. Great show. Great, great thing to go witness if you
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Yeah, no, it's supposed to be fantastic. Anders Wald Elde
huset al DHUSE T. Elders et l who said he's in San San Slee,
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Briscoe a little easier one from Bay Shore in New York a was 7697
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cast your spell it CSTR Yeah, could be I'm not familiar with
it. 50. And finally, Madden, Fred hurtin burger gave us $55
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Oh, donkey Bell, South Africa. There you go. Let's see my Dutch
is only good in Holland in South Africa.
So it seems to be good on the phone. You're always yakking in
Dutch. So I want to thank everybody for these donations. I
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and the $2 that used to give us a $2 monthlies, but the fight we
it's it's five now and
and the people who rebroadcast us on their low power FM,
and there's still people that give us 1015 $20. And you know,
I'd still have a couple of which somebody keeps giving us 4995
How about
our buddy who does the artwork by the way, I have not seen a
new piece of artwork from him. That's okay, we have stuff we
can cover for him. What's his name again, though?
Ah, you forgot his name already. Yeah, we need to have a big sign
with these guys names on him. These guys are are the
volunteers.
Derek barley said his name. No, Derek, I thought Derek did
something else. Derek does danger right Derek does
something mounts keep going on. Anyway, I
want to thank everybody and all these minor amounts is is great.
But anyway, go to no agenda, show no agenda show.com or
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And so we have to keep asking over and over and over again. I
don't want to overdo it. But the fact of the matter is, I think
you're getting three hours a week, where are 12 hours a
month?
Just think about all the the four hours you sit down in front
of your television per day. Right? All the the damage, the
damage that is being done and all the crappy commercials you
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Have you seen those guys offices? Cars and a dry Dr.
Riley cheese? Oh,
we're producing about 144 hours a year if you could give us
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144 bucks. And I know there's a lot of people out there they're
slightly guilt written about the fact that they listen and and we
do a no, we have no we are not taking any advertisement. And
that's the way we want it to stay.
And and both John and I would quit our all of our jobs. If we
could do this full time at least I will just reassert that I
would if I could do this five days a week. Of course. I do it
in a heartbeat.
So we don't want to blow these people blow their minds. days a
week. Can you imagine doing the actually going to five days,
three hours a day, five days a week? Not?
Not three hours. And that's not the same as radio where they
actually do three hours. But they don't really do three
because of all the commercials. Yeah, cuz of all the
commercials, but do an hour an hour and a half. John has plenty
of stuff we can deconstruct. We've lived enough life to have
some background on most of these things. Certainly you have. You
know, there's your boy. So thank you all very much. It's highly
appreciated and keep it going and get more people listening
and get more people
listening because you never know but no agenda.
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we've had no more signups. By Thursday, we don't get this
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something more interesting because I guess people just, you
know, nobody's around. We got people in South Africa, there's
a number of people that can make it to Las Vegas on that night
seems to be limited to have
an idea. Maybe we could do a one off show that you couldn't get
into. Unless Unless you would and it wouldn't have to be $500.
Obviously, unless you had donated in some way. And it
could be a live forum or something this I don't know. I
just I'm thinking we'll take
suggestions for ideas for money making and put them in the
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So before we go, I just wanted to mention that we have
two things to talk about. We got to dinner review and we still
have the to to the head.
Can we get why don't we keep the dinner review? Because we're
kind of running out of time that dinner review will take a long
time. It's okay. We'll take another 10 minutes. And this we
can be done with pretty quickly. Ex Governor Rod Blagojevich, his
aide Christopher Kelly, who was already set to go to jail for
some what was it? Eight and a half million dollar fraud. He I
guess he took payoffs for some roofing contract. Uh huh. at
O'Hare International Airport. No, that'd be a good one. But he
was also O'Hare in Chicago a Yeah, you don't you don't say?
He was also indicted and was set to testify. In the Blagojevich
trial. He took an overdose of aspirin and died for Towson as
an overdose of aspirin.
How much aspirin do you have to take? There's anything in the
story about that, please?
No, of course there's not. Of course not. So this guy, you
know, and we're going bitches back in the news. You know, he's
written his book, and I'm not quite sure which side he's on.
But this is obviously about he says that Rahm Emanuel literally
told him Hey, man, I want you to take care of this, this Senate
seat for me because when I'm after, like two years in the
Obama administration, I want to get out I want to get back into
my seat of real power, of course, because you know, that's
where you've got some power, particularly if you're in the
Chicago club. And so blue boy which being a good soldier did
so and of course, he got busted. And so I have a feeling that
this Kelly guy probably had some information that people didn't
want him into, didn't want him to let's see the light of day.
That's why I was like to advise if you know if you if anybody
out there you end up with information that you know would
be extremely damaging to to the power structure. I mean what we
do here is of course is deconstruct stuff and just so
you know a man let chips fall where they may but we don't
really know anything. But if you ever have that kind of
information that something like this comes up, I would advise
you to just get out of the country. Yeah, just leave. Just
forget
about the country. Now. There is one other there is a little bit
of a theory here, John, of course, you could also say,
because remember, this guy is about about to go to jail, he's
indicted to testify. You know, I haven't seen a body
he's to catch small potatoes to be pulling that stunt, don't you
think?
I don't know. You don't know. I mean, this goes all the way this
is, you know, this is related to Tony rezko. This is related. So
it's directly related to Obama to Rahm Emanuel.
Now he could be in Costa Rica.
There's a lot going on there. And then I just wanted to say
the Who was that guy? We were talking about at dinner, who was
just released from jail the crazy the crazy Senator with a
with a with a wig.
Oh, yeah, you go remember his name? I can never remember.
James. Ah, but on the Thursday list, grazie, Senator. Yeah, he
maybe somebody in the chat room knows. Yeah. Senator with a wig
traficant
traffic traffic can't if I can't, yeah, he went to jail for
seven years. And he was the he was the only guy ever to get out
of a RICO charge by representing himself and basically they set
him up. But this guy is on on on television saying, and this is
what he's saying. He's saying, I just want you to know that
Israel controls the Senate and the Congress. And of course, he
did that he did. The big no, no. And this is the one you never
do. It says Israel controls all of our media. Oops. That's a
good way to get suicided James. interesting guy. Keep your eye
on him. James traffic hands.
You know, that's just a no to me. Just another Jew hater.
Yeah, he probably is buddies. But you know, interesting
entertainment. Yeah, I
know. It's entertaining to a point. But it's it reminds me
that crazy video you sent me if you looked at it in the behind
the scenes on all those people that were responsible for
producing that thing? They're all a bunch of Nazis. I mean,
they just did. It just, it's unconscionable. I mean, the fact
of the matter is the media. I mean, last time I looked, is
really controlled by Wall Street.
Thank you. I think Wall Street and the Democrats actually I
think the Democrats control Fox News.
And yeah, you have this theory. I have not bought into that one
yet.
Stick around. I
know that Fox News is a bit has been a little flaky in a number
of things. And one of the more interesting ones that I just
want to mention is that the last thing is, you know, we have this
local talk show host here in San Francisco Call Michael Savage.
And Michael Savage. He
was he was the guy that was forbidden entry to the UK.
Yeah, but he was put on a terrorist list. And none of the
news media would even mention this. And he'd been harped on In
fact, I think it hurt his feelings although he's kind of a
nerdy guy. But you know did Fox News and all these other right
wingers you think they would say hey, this could happen to me or
know that as far as they were concerned, know what they were
thinking they're thinking haha, this is so funny that that
asshole finally got, you know, something happened to him, you
know, just the way these guys are. Because everybody's kind of
jealous of each other. But, but they'd nobody really wanted
wanted to report on it. And it's actually an abomination.
And then, one that I've been, I've been moving this story on
for three weeks now, three weeks, and you're not seeing it
in mainstream news. But Benjamin Netanyahu, since we're talking
about Israel, made a surprise and covert visit to Russia to
meet with
the other guy Medvedev, Nam Yeah, that guy
and and he did it on a private jet on was it trying to think
Israeli millionaire Yossi my mom on his private jet. And the way
they did it is they actually had the jet diverted and this is all
documented. They had the jet diverted it was supposed to be
flying to well, not to Russia, that's for sure. And then they
had the land in Russia and first had the Prime Minister Netanyahu
whose spokesman denied it and then there was so much
irrefutable proof that he actually was there they said
okay, well, it was a secret secret meeting and we didn't
want anyone to know about it. Yeah, no kidding. And the
assertion is that it's about the Arctic Sea and the missiles
apparently that were on that you know, this was supposed to be
like wood or something that this thing had in cargo and it was
also know what missing was hijacked. Act, or pirates have
gotten a hold of it. And so the the story is that the Russians
were actually sending missiles and anti cruise missile devices
to Iran. And that the what's heating up now, of course, is
that Israel may possibly be gearing up for a strike against
Iran, and there's more shit going on there that you won't
hear about in the news.
So you don't think that Netanyahu didn't go to Russia to
tell Medvedev to tell the Russian mob to take the heat off
of Matt off because you
do totally possible. I like it, John, I'll take that as a theory
too. I'd like that one much more than the idea of Global
Thermonuclear War. Yeah, I much more prefer that.
It makes more sense to me. All right.
I'm gonna go study. I'm gonna go get some pipes. I've got a
building site across the street. Maybe I can steal some of their
pipes and create my click mount cloud buster.
Yeah, cloud buster. We have to work on that. So okay. Ken, by
the way, Lothian I've noticed is in Scotland near Edinburg. Ah,
that
makes sense. Okay, so lots to do on Thursday, I will be in the
Netherlands for the next show. I'm going back briefly for just
a few days picking up my daughter coming back. So back at
the end of the week, but we'll bring you a show as scheduled
because that's what you're paying for coming to you from
the minimum security containment sell in the undisclosed loft
location still under threat of eminent domain removal and
destruction, and get my nation West San Francisco. I'm Adam
curry
and from the overcast northern Silicon Valley where I'm very
suspicious about this weather. I'm John C. Dvorak. We
will talk again on Thursday right here on no agenda.