I'm so happy that we're gonna kill 10s of 1000s of us. Here's
my water. Mr. TSA, please take my water.
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's September 10 2009. Time for your Gitmo nation audio
publication episode 129. This is no agenda coming to you from the
crackpot command centre located in the minimum security
containment cell under actual threat of eminent domain in San
Francisco, the United Republic of California get mo nation
West. I'm Adam curry,
and from what appears to be a 99 degree weather day here in
Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.
Yeah, good to be back. John.
Supposed to be hot today.
It's nice though. I like it. Yeah,
it's gonna hit 80 in the city.
It's perfect. I mean, that's that's why you live here right
for the weather.
For the summer. That happens anytime. But summer. Yeah,
anytime but July. And actually, July wasn't even that bad.
No, this year wasn't bad. I've seen worse. It was a little
foggy during the fireworks as usual. And but it wasn't as bad
as some some of the July's August is pretty flaky.
I wasn't here for most of August, so it didn't bother me.
Yeah, well would have. So you're back. You're settled and you got
your machine hooked up. You're ready to go. Ready? They didn't
you must have been at dock in time to see the Obama speech?
Well, yes, of course. Actually. I'd like to mention, first of
all, that if I had not known better, I would have said that I
picked up a little bit of swine flu on on the flight. I got
back. And it may have been just a combination of jetlag and some
other stuff. But I was running a fever
the day before they let you into the country.
Oh, yeah. By the way, if you're running a fever, don't let on.
Don't Don't be like wheezing and coughing because the KLM
definitely will kick you off the flight. That's documented.
They've done that a couple of times. So yeah, but just really
a fever stomach a little bit upset. Didn't you think I was a
bit out of sorts when we had that lunch the other day? When I
was
uh, ya know, you've been out of shorts for the last couple of
days. Yeah. When I was hitting up the waitress. In fact, when
you you were hitting up the waitress, and you're in when you
you're coming in? You're kind of staggering. Yeah, exactly.
I don't have a an oral or rectal thermometer. But I was
definitely running a fever. And you know, and so I feel much
better today. I feel really all kinds of dust here. I haven't
been around for too long.
But I just picked up some bugs on the plane. I mean, it's easy
to get sick on these planes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's the
funny thing is, you know, for people who don't travel a lot
when you all of a sudden, you know, get into a situation where
you're travelling a lot. And you actually, I think there must be
a bunch of aeroplane airborne or aeroplane diseases that are just
common to people to travel. Because what happens is when you
first start travelling, that you're sick all the time, every
time you go anywhere, it's like,
and it's usually your nose and throat,
it's just yeah, it's usually some minor things like that. So
it's a version of the cold. And and then after about, I don't
know, six months, a year, a couple of years of doing that
you don't get sick at all, you
kind of get used to it. But now this is an interesting point,
John, because we all know that when you right now in these
harrowing times, very troubling with the h1 and the novel h1 and
one virus ready to kill us all. It was very interesting to me to
see how our how incredibly irresponsible, irresponsible, I
tell you, our Congress was yesterday. Oh, as I was
watching, well, actually, I flipped back and forth. I was
watching C span before the main event. And of course, when you
when you really watch what's going on, before the President
started speaking, it is just like the Oscars during the
commercial breaks. Everyone's schmoozing. Everyone's not just
talking but hugging and kissing. And how can we allow our
President, our President to kiss everybody in the room? Is this
not a Petri
dish in I mean, what was that all about? I
mean, it's a Petri dish for for swine flu. And you can't tell me
that out of that entire room of representatives and invited
guests because there were a lot of those as well, that that not
one person can possibly have the swine flu. I mean, the obvious
answer is yes, of course someone has it. Who's there? And why do
they allow this and by the way, I love I love HD. And I have
never really seen this type of assembly in high definition.
Shoulder smirking, and not just the
smirking. But how about the gold baby? How about the designer
threads? I mean, there's this these people are dressed up and
I'm telling you, it's just like the Oscars. And there is some
kind of unwritten rule, apparently, about which women
are allowed to wear red, because if you're wearing red, then you
are really important.
I wonder about that whether there's a rule or whether they
just do it because of the red, the people wearing red and the
women and by the way, these same women would probably never have
worn red when they were in high school.
No, certainly not after Labour Day. Yeah, exactly.
And they I mean, they just wouldn't have and oh, yeah to
read. I mean, because it's a slightly colour. And so but they
were in because there's a power colour in Washington apparently
or something or it's a way you can be seen in the crowd or
like, oh, yeah, she's over there. The bright red dress. Did
you see Sheila Jackson from Texas? She was wearing like a
red with a big yellow thing wrapped around her head. It was
amazing. This this like, like, Crap paper.
So the ones that the red power chicks Of course, Nancy, Nancy
Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton. Here comes Hillary.
Yeah, you know, she,
she had the pantsuit, the red pantsuit. That was good until
the bottom but how could you miss her bottom dude?
Definitely, with more fabric, let's say then Pelosi. And this
Sebelius king. Oh
my god. She was completely and she was wearing jewellery, John.
Oh, her earrings. Were so massive. Her ear lobes were
stretched down to her shoulders.
So anyway, I thought it was disgusting.
Me too. And the whole show because it is really a show.
First of all, it started like 15 minutes late. What's
your what's your might be play The Dennis Miller thing. Right.
Do you that clip right there.
Hold on a second. Here we go. Dennis Miller. This is from his
appearance on O'Reilly.
Yeah, I don't know much about birth and babies. But I do know
this when the six o'clock speech on how government's going to
tighten up health care starts at 650. Exactly. I think that says
it all fabulous. This is this. This is beautiful karaoke.
And he's absolutely right. But what got me even more is so what
happens is first, and this was about three minutes to the top
of the hour. Speaker of the House Pelosi and reads Oh, wait,
wait,
wait, wait, play it play the Pelosi clip in the background as
you talk?
Hold on, where is it? What's the Pelosi clip? I don't have the
Pelosi clip.
I'll read the clip names. Debt stinks
escorts escorts.
The Joint Session shall come to order.
Right this is three minutes before the top of the hours
of the Committee on the part of the house to escort the
President of the United States into the chamber. The gentleman
from Maryland Mr. Hoyer, right
so she reads off this entire list of names and so these
people who are already in the chamber now have to go out
through the lobby doors and then they'll come back in again. In
apparently in front of the president who by the way stood
in the doorway for at least three minutes before he was
announced by two dudes. Did you see that? There's like two dudes
now. Yeah, it's not just one guy. It's it's like one guy says
Ladies and Gentleman of the house and then the other guy
says the president of the United States. Yeah. And he's standing
there like a boxer you know, kind of in the shadows and
because he's very tall. And she you know, the top of his head
was kind of shadowed off a
surprise they weren't playing music. The rocky receives they
do the boxing match with the lights go down. Exactly
the wrestling match would have been better. But you know, my
personal feeling. And I like the idea of a no nonsense president
who Obama certainly pertains to be in, wouldn't you just like
come in, say, hey, right on Let's rock. Let's go I got a
message for you. I got something to say boom, let's get right to
it. No. Instead, we're steeped in these ridiculous traditions.
So after the escorts go out, then it's ladies and gentlemen,
the president's cabinet. That's when Hillary and Timmy Geithner
and Sebelius and all the all the other red suited women come in.
And then there's applause all the time. And then there's
Applause Applause And then the President comes in and he hugs
everybody. St. Patrick's Day.
And then he gets in, he gets up behind his his teleprompter
spot. And then there's more. Thank you. Thank you. And then
we have Pelosi who has to say it is my high privilege and
distinct honour to present to you the President of the United
States. By the way, why doesn't anyone say the President of the
United States of America, why is it only the President of the
United States? Is there a reason for that?
I never heard it. I don't know. I never thought about it. She's
still chatting in the background there on that
on Another thing that bothers me to no end she's always saying
something. She's always like this. She's got these like half
one liners. And she'll say it to Biden, you know, and I wish I
could lip read, although she doesn't have a lot of lips to
read, you know, because she that she's saying something
continuously this little like side comments. It's just as
irritating as when Letterman or Leno or O'Brien has a guest. And
then okay, we're gonna go to commercial and then they lean
over to each other and they say something that you can't hear
because the mics are closed. It's that annoyance that really
gets ya know, I
you know what, I agree with that. And then actually
Letterman does it when they come out. He's he whispered something
to him, like Obama did with Hillary. Yes.
Two things. He kissed her and then said something and she
laughed, and they yuck, yuck. And of course, the mics are
never on down.
Ever. What's your Larry Sanders Show? Yeah. So, uh, you know,
they would actually, it was all about that. Yeah, the
conversation, there would be all kinds of weird stuff. That that
was the best part. Absolutely. Absolutely. So yeah, so that
stuff really, and watching a lot of it in high definition, which
means I did have to switch between C span which is not high
def. And I think I switched over to MSNBC, which had a lot of the
down on the floor camera feeds they were using, except they had
the annoying people talking over it. So you couldn't hear
that? Well. I actually was gonna watch CNN. But then I decided,
well, let's go mainstream. So I watched it on CBS. I have a clip
there, by the way, showing you the shallowness of CBS, the
Katie Couric clip, which is during the beginning of the just
before the speech began, if you'd play that press to see how
devoted he is to the issue, but he wants conservative Democrats
and Republicans to see that he is out leaving the door open for
a possible compromise. Another big issue that has yet to be
settled. Sorry,
go ahead. I was just gonna say we should mention that Mrs.
Obama is standing beside Vicki Kennedy, of course, the widow of
Senator Ted Kennedy, whose presence is so sorely missed
during this health care debate. Go ahead, Chip. I'm sorry.
She's also with a group of people that's just like eat
entertainment when they do the Oscars. Yes, that's the kind of
colour commentary II does. When when there's an award show.
Yeah. And it's just like, you know, enough already. This was
billed as serious business. The President is addressing the the
Congress addressing the nation. You know, I think we could do
just do a little less of the of the show around and just get
down to business, do you and he didn't need 50 minutes to do
this entire thing. He could have cut it down significantly. My
personal feeling, although Oh,
yeah, no, it was too long. Yeah, way too long,
although as basically representing brand Obama, I
think he did a very good job. He, of course, you can shoot
holes in every single bit of the speech. And I'm sure we'll do
some of that during today's no agenda. But in general, if I was
just sitting there, and I was just, you know, just Joe Schmo
kind of concerned about all the things I've heard, and I'm not
going to townhall meetings, and I'm not, you know, pissed off. I
just kind of want to get on with it. And I'm looking at my health
care bill. I would probably say, all right now guys seems to be
on track. I think it was a reasonable, a reasonable little
story he had
I thought it was a good. I mean, for it was an Obama speech. You
know, it was, it was well done. I mean, I think some of the
points he made were outstanding. I think he did it well. And but
you know, when you'd analyse it after the fact is like
everything else, I realised that Obama is one of those guys. he's
reminding me of guys like Matt Millen who was the general
manager of the, of the Detroit Lions. And he always reminds me
of that I've talked about this before, we had a publisher at PC
Magazine for years at one of the magazines who magazine was
always failing to performance, but this guy was the only guy
that was never fired. So I go in and visit with him because they
would fire people that if they weren't performing, but this guy
was in forever. So I go in and meet with the guy and I walked
out of there I swear to god thing, or whatever it was.
That was great. Yeah, the guy's cool. But then you go home, you
went, Wait a
minute. Wait a
minute, this guy has buffaloed me. And so Exactly. And Obama
apparently is one of those types of people. He has the ability to
Buffalo in audience I mean, he because he's a smooth talker.
Face it, he is a smooth talker. Yeah, totally. And when you and
start analysing the speech, or somebody else does who just
hates him? Usually, there's always somebody didn't want to
listen to any of it. But they start deconstructing it. You
realise that in fact, yeah, he didn't say this. In fact, there
was a guy sitting in the audience which nobody commented
on you know, they even though they come out the guy,
the guy who always introduces the bill that every session know
the
guy who's not I don't know who this what note, I don't know who
this was because they never they only focused on it for a minute
on one of the stations and I saw it twice and I saw it and the
guy had a sign in kind enrichment he had a sign in his
lap that said, what Bill?
I didn't see that. That's great.
Yeah. And what in what it meant meant, of course, was what Bill
is Obama talking about? We're talking about the Senate bill,
the bill out of the finance committee, the bill in the
House. And nobody brought it up that he's just generalising
should technically have been which Bill instead of what Bill?
I think it said, what Bill, but technically, it should have been
which bill that would have made more sense. I, you know, we can
go through a couple of these things. But I realised after a
couple of people sent me this article from The Wall Street
Journal, that we've really been focusing on the wrong things.
You know, of course, the focus has been on death panels, the
focus has been on. Come on, John. You know, basically, you
know, killing grandma. Yeah, all of that has really been a
distraction. And it kind of hit me this morning, after reading
this article, I can say, I think it's an op ed, I'm sorry. In the
Wall Street Journal, by Mark mix, and it's the title of it is
read the union health care label, subtitle, get ready for
Detroit style labour relations in our hospitals. And you and I
both know, as we discussed many times, that President Obama, of
course, you know, the way elections in America work, and
this is this is no secret, you get huge donations from from
from special or just interest groups, such as Wall Street,
President Obama received more money than anyone from Wall
Street. Well, he basically took care of them with all the
bailouts. So that was done, you know, that's been repaid. And he
got huge support and money from the unions. And so now all of a
sudden, it's starting to click in my head, you know, so he did
do a little bit of stuff for Detroit, bailing out the or more
or less bailing out the the auto industry, but really, the unions
and this is something I need your expertise on to understand
that. The unions, of course, in my mind, although I'm actually a
member of a couple of unions, are really about power at the
end of the day. And from what I understand from this, this op
ed, and there are a couple other articles that we probably should
discuss that go along with it. What a lot of the health care
bill, if we're talking about HR 3200, which was, you know, I
think the one that everyone's is usually analysing and talking
about section 225, a Grants Secretary of Health and Human
Services, Kathleen Sebelius, tremendous discretionary
authority to regulate health care workers under the public
health insurance option. Monopoly bargaining, and
compulsory union dues may quickly become a required
standard, resulting in potentially hundreds of 1000s of
doctors and nurses across the country being forced into
unions. So now Should I start to click in my head, I'm like, Oh,
of course, this is why the SEIU is at all these rallies, because
the idea is to grow the unions by forcing medical personnel
into them. Well, that's an interesting idea.
And if you look at some of the data, let's see.
Consider that because that's why the SEIU is so gung ho for this
bill, because that's that's the union that would benefit the
most. And that's the union that's directly associated with
acorn.
Exactly. So you've got all of these big labour, I guess we
talked about Big Pharma, big labour is probably just as evil
as Big Pharma in my personal opinion. And of course, this is
all about union dues. And you know, I'm a member of AFTRA a
member of sag. And really, there's only really two reasons
that well, there's three reasons that you're a member of these
unions. One, you can't get a gig in mainstream radio, television
or film, if you're not a member of the Union. It's a catch 22
For sag the Screen Actors Guild because you can't get into sag
unless you have a speaking role. But you can't get a speaking
role unless you're a SAG member. So basically, you have to be
nominated by the production company, which is why it's very
hard to get a gig in in film, because yet you know, there's
this kind of this catch 22 scenario. Then you have after
the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists,
you pay it's you can get into that no problem. You pay your
dues, and what do you get for it in return is a standardised
contract. So you have the, you know, the set fee for an hour of
radio or an appearance on television that's really broken
down into into pretty minut detail. And back in the 80s.
When I really relied on it, you got health care, which was not
to be underestimated. But when you look at mainstream radio,
television and film, highly unionised, you've got to ask
yourself, is it good or does it suck? So I think personally, it
all sucks. Tel Aviv sucks radio generally sucks, you know, film
is pretty much sucks. And this is the result of I think it
being unionised. There's huge control over who is in it what
they do and you basically just pay these dues all the time. And
they can tell you when to not show up for work and strike.
Yeah, so what's your point?
I guess the question is, although totally legal under the
Constitution to Unionise is unionisation a good thing? Do we
want big unions in the United States? Do we want our entire
healthcare industry to be unionised? What are the pros and
the cons?
Well, I don't like the idea of the healthcare system being that
unionised because obviously you can then you put the screws to
people. I mean, do you think health care is expensive now? I
mean, it could really go up and it's not going to go down. The
unions are going to help people save money. I'm just fascinated.
I just think I think unions had their place in time. And that
became, I wouldn't say they're corrupt organisations, because
I've been in various unions that are actually quite useful. But
generally speaking, I think they're full of crap. They've
promised stuff that they don't deliver, and then they throw
their weight around. And they the guys who run the unions are
spending too much money. The dues are too high for what you
get. I mean, you know, I mean, yeah, once in a while somebody
goes to this shop steward, and you know, it gets some justice
because his boss is a jerk, which is the reason you know, a
lot of these people join unions, because you have a bunch of
management, schmucks that just make your life miserable. So
what what's the point? Right, yeah, but for the most part, you
know, these things should be taken care of some other way.
But but but unions are with us. And that's that, but now that
you mentioned that unions involved, this explains the SEIU
being show for this thing. That and you're right, I think this
whole thing is a scam. That's very interesting. You got me on
that one.
Well, there's a couple more pieces to this. There's a piece
of legislation that has been passed by the House but has been
stuck in the Senate for a while, which has been totally not this.
And by the way, none of this unionisation stuff is discussed
anywhere and not on CNBC, MSNBC, Fox News or anything. So this is
part of what I love about this show. And and this was pointed
out by our listeners slash producers. And so now we're
catching on Hold on a second, let's look into this. There is
something that has been lingering, needing to pass and
is still in committee or discussion or god knows how it
works. Known as the EFC. A, have you heard of this? John? The
Employee Free Choice Act?
Oh, yeah, no, this right, this is the one where they were they
want to eliminate the secret ballot.
Right? The so they're calling it the card check bill. So the so
the idea
is a free choice. It's like a guy, you have a guy coming up to
you and your house knocks on the door. And he says you want to
join the union. And they said, Well, I'm gonna vote on it. When
the ballot comes around. Now you can vote right now you got to
tell me right now in front of the entire class is basically
what it is. So and by the way, I'm going to slip it in early.
This is exactly exactly what is described in Atlas Shrugged, I'm
gonna, I'm gonna put this link up, I gotta sell some of these
books. This is exactly what is described, where you no longer
have the secret ballot, you have to stand up in front of all of
your your co workers and peers and basically say, I disagree,
which of course, is the shittiest situation to be in. So
they want to eliminate the whole idea of a secret ballot. But
there's a lot more going on here. As a part of this, I love
the name, Employee Free Choice Act. As a part of this, if, as
an employer and I am an employer in the state of California, you
will not be able to say or do certain things under penalty of
$20,000 to your employees. And I know and I've run small
companies, bigger companies, I've technically had a so right
now, I guess anything under 500 employees is from what I
understand is considered to be a small business. I've had a small
and then either medium or large business with 700 employees.
What would you call the vet Kendra's company then that he
had to know a
place? I would call that a hobby is what I call that. You know,
it's just not a good idea to have employees decide how you
going to run your company is just not and that's essentially
what it comes down to worse, I think with with with what is the
power that is being given to government now, to rule over
some of these union rules, ie what Sebelius will be able to do
is basically the government being allowed to run your
business that's that's the simple breakdown of what it
comes down to. And so now I'm saying whoa, wait a minute. This
This isn't isn't really about healthcare. It's not really
about insurance companies. It's about total takeover of all
business. So it's not socialism. It's fascism. Yeah. corporatism.
corporatism. Yeah, fascism and same thing.
Here's an example lashes. And that's a good point.
Well, here's an example of how well unionisation works. From
the federal times. We have discussed that the US Postal
Service is in dire straits. They have a deficit of $7 billion.
They've gone to Congress. They've said, Oh, we've got to
cut down mail delivery to five days a week. So of course the
Postal Service is unionised. Well, it turns out that they
have 1000s and 1000s of employees who they have no work
for, because their mail in mail delivery is down by 12 to 15%.
So what that literally doing this is a great article, and
it'll be in the show notes at no agenda. show.com. They literally
put the employees into break rooms, 12 foot by eight foot
closets, which the postal service calls resource rooms,
the postal worker employees call it holding pens or blue rooms.
They literally sit there for eight hours a day doing nothing.
Because they can't be fired. They can't be laid off due to
the unionisation so that just and I and also I believe Obama
and the Obama administration would never want these numbers
to flow into the joblessness, credit claims. So essentially,
they're just sitting there doing nothing literally 1000s of
employees because there is no work for them. Meanwhile, the
taxpayer is being asked to bail them out. Because they have a
deficit because they have all these employees doing nothing.
It makes no sense to me.
Interesting, okay.
So that is that is where unionisation will lead to, I
believe, because of course, we'll have, you know, all kinds
of, I don't think we'll have a doctors and nurses sitting
around with nothing to do. But if this is the result, well, it
could. But if this is the result, where the US Postal
Service is asking for a bailout, but at the same time, they have
1000s of people who really just aren't working, literally. And
this is crazy. They're not allowed to do anything in these
break rooms. The you know, because they technically are at
work, so they're not allowed to do and they're just sitting
there this is this is gonna make these people crazy. They're
gonna go home and kill somebody or go postal Yeah, go postal
totally.
So let's get Okay. So let's get back to the speech. Okay, a
couple of things that I wanted to I gave a bunch of notes to
certain reason.
Before you do that, let's just make sure people know exactly
what this programme is all about. Here's what we do.
Our formula is this. We go out, we get people in the mouth.
All right, Johnny. Let's hit someone in the mouth.
Okay. So I thought that, even though I don't think a lot of
people picked up on it, but I was watching Obama's
presentation and his prompter use. He was flooding. Oh,
he flubbed a lot of lines. He realised several lines. Yeah,
I think he was nervous. And I think it
was nervous. I think also, the speech was probably changed
multiple times. Because that's usually the kind of mistakes he
was making, like rereading a line or saying, I will, instead
of I would, there was like a you will, or you would think in
there, see more like a formatting issue where you're
you, because you read that you read through a speech, it's
gonna be on the teleprompter. And the best way to do of
course, is to actually read I'm sure he has a teleprompter in
the Oval Office, because the best way to do it is to actually
read it, because then you get kind of used to the spacing on
the teleprompter. Yeah, I believe that some of the spacing
changed. So when he was expecting a new line to start,
maybe it was It wasn't there, or is already there. It was
clearly. For me, it was part nervousness. And by the way, who
wouldn't be nervous? It was like a huge gig, dude.
Yeah, he's done it before and he looked less nervous before.
Yeah,
I think there were a lot of changes over the past, probably
the past 24 hours.
Now also, I noticed that wrangle that the guy in the audience was
glowering constantly about something right I can't I
couldn't figure out what that was all about. So But Richard
wrangles, that guy has a kind of talks like this. I
don't know who that
is. Okay. Well, you would when you saw him. He's a troublemaker
and and then the up and down, up and down, up and down. Applause
up and down and up and down. Your guy was at a Catholic high
mass.
Yeah, that's another part of that. Just, you know, half of
the half of we should time it a bit. Yeah, half of the entire
show. Let's just call it a show is applause It's just applause.
And every single, every single Oh,
and babies applause with a standing ovation. Well, that's
that's what you're supposed to do. That's idiotic. Yeah. Now
then again, of course, on the other side that Republicans sat
there, and so they,
they were not getting up a couple of times they cut to them
and
they weren't getting up. I mean, some of them were kind of
intermixed, but the 90% of the times they weren't getting up
and, and but the CBS would cut, you know, Obama would say
something, and the Democrats would go crazy and clap and they
cut usually that Bomer guys, the guy they had the camera on, or
Boehner or whatever his name is a painter, painter. They he
because he'd had his arms folded, and he looked gruff. And
so they so they So Obama says, it's for the good of the nation,
and for the good of the children, and then all the
Democrats stand up and clap and he'd be sitting there with his
arms folded, and they make him look like an idiot. What do you
hate kids? Yeah, so I thought that was just very, you know,
you know, kind of slanted covers CBS, and NBC is, you know,
they're over the top with this kind of thing. Anyway, so then
they had the one moment, of course, in that where they were
Obama starts talking about, about the illegal aliens,
illegal aliens, and they get booed. First he gets booed. Some
guy yells lies, this guy will say, yeah. Oh, that was Wilson.
Yeah. Yeah. And so Pelosi and Biden, look over there and glare
at yes, we're
going to give you two to the head, you dick. They're on the
list. You're on the list now. Yeah.
Now. There was a couple of things. He had a he I have to
give him kudos on one analogy that I thought was really a
winner, because I haven't heard it before. And I always he was
specially written for this speech, where he's talking about
private health care, insurance, and then the public option. And
he uses the analogy that just because there there are public
universities doesn't mean there's no more private
universities, they do compete in the real world. And I thought
that was like a really good analogy. Yeah.
Although it made me immediately think of our discussion from the
last show where all these public universities are making off with
tonnes of dough. They're ripping us and ripping us off, but okay,
yeah, the analogy was there, but that's immediately I thought of
like, Oh, my God, man. Yeah, that
means everyone's gonna rip us off instead of just a private
universities ripping us off, you'll be getting ripped off by
the government, too. But it's I still thought it was good. And I
got some of the notes which I'll go through. But he did bring up
a little bit of Mel pray he got some he finally got the
Republicans.
Yeah, the tort reform, he got to kind of slipped it in this kind
of stuff, the
little tort reform idea in there. And
just a quick explanation of tort reform would basically be a
limit. Not really a limit,
but a cap on a cap on malpractice, like we have in the
state of California. Well, it's
not really going to be a cap, but it's going to be if you
lose, if you bring a lawsuit, which apparently would be
frivolous, then you would have to pay the legal fees of the of
the defending party.
Yeah, well, hopefully they'd be kept to. So anyway, the one but
anyway, before the show that everybody Lou Dobbs, and
everybody, we're going over the pieces of the speech that they
had passed out to the media, and one of the observers said, Well,
you know, anything that they pass out in advance has got
something in it. That is some you know, that there's some
thematic thing you have to check into. But one of the guys
pointed out a little catchphrase that apparently Obama has been
using, I haven't caught it. But he pointed it out. And it was
used in the speech. And it's when he's talking about you
know, some trend or something. He uses the term. Not this time,
not now.
Yeah, it was he actually started off with that which by the way,
the news outlets clearly had the speech before the speech started
because I saw that quote, already rolling on lower thirds
on the scroll before the President even walked into the
into the chambers. So the idea was you said this has been
brought up by many many presidents you know, and and
it's going to stop with me essentially, but they had they
had the speech before it started
as well. My understanding only had pieces of it it didn't have
Oh, of
course, that of course give the news media that short. The
choice sound bites the quotes, of course, yeah.
Now the thing that got me about the speech was what was this Ted
Kennedy death letter? He goes on those of us who knew Teddy and
apparently got a death letter, you know, a letter not to be
open until I'm dead from Kennedy, which was good reveal.
Now, you know, it's like he's the Pope or something. He's got
some
he gets to open.
Is there a copy of that available somewhere?
I don't know. I think the whole thing was a scam to be honest
about it, but Well, it's
highly disputable. That's for sure. Ted Kennedy death letter.
Let me just do a quick search.
But it was near the end of the speech when he was pulling his
Reagan style of public speaking out with these personal
anecdotes about this person and that person, Ted Kennedy's death
letter. I
want to know if you said anything about Chappaquiddick,
that's what I want to know if that's the death letter, oh, and
by the way, I totally boned her. Something like that would be
funny.
You can send your email to Adam,
please do. It doesn't matter. We're not going to solve
anything. What's going on here, John is it's a it's a mass. And
of course, we've been conditioned this way. But
really, we are in a mass vibe of, oh, we everyone should be
treated fairly. And we have to have a beautiful world. And it's
a it's part of it is your generation's fault, actually.
And so we've been conditioned into believing that we can have
all these things, and everybody can live in peace and harmony,
and an A can all be good. And no one will, not only will we all
be taken care of, but you actually won't get sick and will
fix everything. And that's just not reality, you know, and we
all have to chip in for the for the poor sods. And this has been
proven just not to work. It's just not the way life works in
general. And of course, you've always got these, these
characters in there who will take advantage of this feeling
this vibe that the universe wants of everyone to be happy
and live in harmony. And they'll take advantage of that for their
own personal benefit, gain and in power. And in this will just
end in so in a in a couple. It can only end in a couple of
ways. None of them really pleasant, but it doesn't work.
It just doesn't work this way. You've got to have losers and
winners in life. That's it.
So the thanks for your
response.
Thanks for the words of encouragement.
No, it's Atlas Shrugged. Read it.
So you know if you keep mentioning it, I'll put a link
up with a link to my
Why don't you Why don't you read it? Why don't you just take it
better to
do than read a book that I've done a rewrite of a Fountainhead
book in which I read
go read Atlas Shrugged. It's different.
So you read The Fountainhead? I've started it. Yes. Sure.
I have started it.
I document that. Yes. So I've got this clip here called Obama
school speech. What do you think that is?
Well, I would presume that is about Obama's speech on
September 8 to the school children have the right this is
Oh, yeah, this is a die. Whoa, no clues in the title there. So
who's this? This is like your letter? I can't remember. Your
death letters. Like, I gotta remember. I gotta remember to
say something about the school speech. Okay.
Okay. So the schools because I want to get that in before
because we're I think we're beating this other thing up.
Yes. I got some other things to talk about. This is an
interesting little observation that, you know, these these
right wing talk cable shows which Obama condemned on his
main school, which, really, yeah,
he condemned them all. Yeah, it was great.
Which is just nothing but just jack up the ratings. But anyway,
so this is Hannity who like, you know, by the way, the people out
there should know that these guys especially on the cable
shows, they don't really do it. The two of us do more work than
those guys,
and make 1/100 of the money. Yeah, we
make almost no money. But we do all our own work. These guys
have a staff of writers who dig this stuff up, and they get some
pretty good material. I mean, the best example is Glenn Beck,
who used to do a radio show where he was just yakking away
he's a dummy, to be honest about it. But he's got with a staff of
writers. He's a genius
and he looks like one gene away from retardation.
It's just not what you know, but but tell you he's got good stuff
because he's got good writers. So this is a good example of
good writing, digging up something very interesting. And
then Hannity who can't really say anything without having
snide comments within the sentence structure, which I find
slightly annoying, but at the same time, he gets his point
across Play the Obama school speech, I thought this was
interesting. Today, President
Obama addressed schoolchildren across the country now the
speech was praised by the mainstream Obama mania media and
drew little attention from the Democratic majority on Capitol
Hill. But as Byron York of The Washington Examiner points out,
that was certainly not the case back in 1991. On October 1 of
that year, President George Herbert Walker Bush spoke to
students at a Washington area junior high school, and unlike
the Anointed One, President Bush was slammed for holding the
event. Now the very first line of a front page Washington Post
article The very next day said, quote, The White House turned a
Northwest Washington Junior High classroom into a television
studio, and its students into props. And that's not
all. Well, and is there more to this because I do want to say
something about Yeah, he's
got a couple more loyal pylons.
Well, what I did see some of that what I found to be
interesting when I looked at the school auditor Orion is that
over to the left, there was an I don't know if this was by
design, or if this is just how it works in large crowds, but it
seemed like all the African American students were all in
one section, one section for one camera shot. That's the way it
looked to me if I were directing this, which of course, this is
highly produced and directed, I probably would. If I had the
same agenda, I probably would have done the same thing. It
just appeared to me to be that way.
Democrats even call for a full investigation on how the speech
was funded. They held hearings on the matter, and they forced
them then Education Secretary, Lamar Alexander to testify
before congressional panel. I call me crazy, but I don't
expect to see a similar story on the front page of tomorrow's
Washington Post. But we'll see
now they're always bitching about each other. It's this is
what tires me is the news media complaining about the news media
isn't necessarily
good we do. We like yeah, you guys suck. Well use
me. So no, no sooner had I mentioned on Sunday show my
frustration about the so called Liquid bombers in the United
Kingdom. Seven. Yeah, the timing is fantastic. Because of course,
they had been acquitted. All of them had been acquitted, due to
a hung jury in the United Kingdom get get my nation east.
What
can I do to stop you before you go there? Sure. Because I
there's I have one note on this pile of notes that I haven't
eaten yet. That I haven't eaten yet. And I just wanted to just
for background for the public out there because I realised
last night while I was watching Obama's speech that there's a
question I should have asked you a couple of times in the last
year and I haven't done it and I think the public would be
interested in just a quick take on healthcare, public option
health care in Holland and Great Britain, both of which you have
experienced personally Yes. What about is it any good?
No, the Well, no. No, in the United Kingdom, no, it is not
good. There. You wait an incredibly long time for
necessary operations, there are a very long waiting list. It is
of course good that if you just want to go see your general
practitioner, you can get in you can get an appointment, it costs
you essentially almost nothing. Oh, it cost you nothing. meds
are, you know, five pounds, regardless of what the actual
cost may be. So that part is good. But if you are actually in
need of something, forget about it. I've gone private many times
for my family, to get my wife, ex wife, I should say, needed an
emergency. At Pagon, Peck Dang. Appendicitis removal. Okay, she
wasn't she was missing dough. She was misdiagnosed for a year.
And then, you know, it was really dangerous.
And luckily, I remember when she was misdiagnosed,
and I was able to take her private and, and, you know,
considering her condition might have saved her life, who knows
what could have happened if it if your appendix had exploded?
That would have been pretty bad. In in the Netherlands prior to a
I believe a 2000. A change, where there was basically a
single payer type option. And the doctors and pharmaceuticals
had limits on what they could charge for services and
products. I think it was in general reasonable. Although the
same applies the idea of a death panel, the idea of, hey, you
know what, you're basically at the, at the end of your life, no
service for you that this is just a fact of how the system
works. Now, they changed that in 2008, everyone had to go to a
private health insurance. And of course, now that's out of
control costs are rising. But that was a test, right? That was
a it's a it's a beta test. So pros and cons, if you're old,
no, I mean, you're gonna die and they're gonna let you die
because your usefulness has been used up. That's the way it
works. I'm sorry. It's just the system to be able to see a
doctor and get your meds cheaply. Very, very good. So
there's, there's pros and cons.
Although we don't have the public you do have the private
backup though. I think that's a good thing.
Right. So And here's an interesting thing. I just got a
note from my I have worldwide private insurance. I am not a
member of of our company insurance scheme. Because I have
this you know, there's pre existing conditions within
within my family. So you know, I don't want to mess that up and
switch around. They just notified me personally, because
they had read in gossip magazines that I have now
permanently moved to San Francisco. They are dropping my
coverage, even though it's Worldwide health insurance.
Well that doesn't make any sense. No, of
course not. But you know, I think they're looking at the
news and saying dude, that's it's expensive over there. What
if we don't want to insure that guy? So anyway, back to back to
the liquid bombers?
Yes, the liquid bombshell. The deal is that we you know, we've
been following these boneheads and they got busted for
something then out of the blue. They apparently try them again,
just to put it seemed to me the whole thing was a publicity
stunt to prove that they were right about banning these 100
millilitre liquids. And by the way, I was watching on one of
the new shows, they actually had some guy build one of these
liquids bomb.
I saw that and little a little of like a vitamin water bottle.
Yeah, and blew off the side of a plane with it.
Yeah, but you see them put a little bottle in this, and I
have the video linked in the show notes. He puts a little
plastic bottle of like goop in next to a seat inside the
fuselage of this fake plane. And then they cut to the explosion,
you know, there's no detonator attached to this thing. You
know, it was clearly whatever he put next to that seat was not
what exploded. But that's neither here nor there. So just
to just to review briefly, all of them were acquitted of the of
this alleged plot to take essentially, what is the
peroxide
or something Sunday, it was pretty sketchy. Yeah.
What is the what was the name of the chemical, it's used to
bleach your hair, Hydrogen, Hydrogen, Hydrogen Peroxide, so
they actually were in possession of hydrogen peroxide, hydrogen
peroxide. They did not have tickets, they did not have
passports. But yet these guys want to get out of these planes.
And they were going to blow them up. So the jury could not
convict them because there was just not enough evidence.
And by the way, the number of people they're going to kill is
now up to 10,000. Right 1000s
of people. So no sooner had I said, these guys had all been
acquitted. And it was basically, it's basically a retail scam,
which I still believe it is because of course, the
retailer's want to sell you a $7 bottle of water, they want to
sell you all this toilet articles and aftershave and
perfume, etc, all the stuff you can't take with you through that
one simple x ray machine. Which by the way, I can take all kinds
of wires and batteries without any check whatsoever. And all it
takes is a little bit of plastic, plastic bottle and some
liquid and double A battery. Well, I got tonnes of double A
batteries, so they don't check me for that. So they get
acquitted. Now, I guess they don't have double jeopardy in
the United Kingdom. So they say, Hey, shit, that didn't work.
Let's just get another jury. And let's just do it all over again.
So then they're able to convict three of these guys. And I'm
thinking to myself, because of course I get tonnes of emails
saying you're full of shit. They you know, they were guilty, it's
good that we're gonna kill 10s of 1000s of people. I'm like,
what was the difference? What happened between jury number one
and jury number two? And I have found out what has happened
during shell. Okay, so the rule in the British courts are is
that you cannot use intercepted material as evidence, ie emails
that you've that you've intercepted. So they they did a
workaround. And they got these emails to be introduced as
evidence to the second jury, not because they were intercepted,
but they were taken off the Yahoo email server in America.
So there's a difference between actually intercepting the email
or going to Yahoo and saying, Hey, dudes, give us these
emails. Okay. So that was the trick. Now, here's the emails.
And so this is what convicted these guys, not the fact that
they didn't have passports didn't have tickets, hydrogen
peroxide with double A batteries. I'm no chemist. But I
think you need a lot more than the little bottle they showed. I
don't know. It could be totally true. There's, you know, who the
fuck knows. But here are the emails. And then here's what
prosecutor said it meant Fourth of July 2006. And by the way,
these are all emails to Pakistan, okay. Not to
Afghanistan, not to Iraq to Pakistan. Quote, listen, dude.
When is your mate going to bring the projectors and the taxis to
me? I got all my bits and bobs. Tell your mate to make sure the
projectors and taxis are fully ready and proper. I don't want
my presentation messed up. The prosecutor said that means taxis
were code for knowledge and equipment because Ahmed Ali
still needed some guidance. The word presentation meant attack.
Next quote. I spoke to my friend he will soon sort the prices for
the telephones. Everything is good is going good here. We will
need to send you some CDs and DVDs over to you soon. Don't
forget to call me. Prosecutors said over the coming week
surveillance officers see salwaar Ahmed Ali and Tanveer
Hussain buying bomb parts, that's the hydrogen peroxide and
the double A batteries. The prosecution alleges that CDs and
DVDs is a reference to martyrdom videos they expect to send out
to Pakistan. Next, Hi gorgeous. Well, nice to hear from you,
your friend can go for his rapping concert rehearsal, but
somewhere popular would be good. Make sure he goes on the bus
service, which is most common over here. prosecutor said that
was said to mean that their aides in Pakistan had given the
go ahead for a dummy run to test airport security. The
prosecution alleged bus service meant domestic American carriers
such as United or American Airlines. And this goes on and
on and on and on. Now, I'm sorry. But this is really taking
it a bit too far.
Dude, that's an awfully elaborate code. I mean, it
sounds like these guys are, are experienced mobsters that are
talking to each other knowing their phones tapped. And that's
when they were you know, producing it. Why didn't you
know if you here's the here's the question that I would ask if
these guys were sophisticated enough to create this elaborate
code. So they could do this kind of a scheme. Even though like
you said they had no passports or anything like that. Why
wouldn't they just encrypt the messages with some sort of, you
know, what TrueCrypt or all these things and get on your
computers? I mean, they have email. I mean, encrypting is not
difficult to do. I mean, unless they thought this was
encrypting. And he did you guys, by the way, didn't look that
bright.
No. And this is because we've been conditioned by television
drama series that this type of sleuthing and extreme deduction
is, is valid, you know, so forget the evidence. Basically,
these guys were convicted upon these emails. Here's another
one. Hi, smiley emoticon. Got some good news that will bring a
big smile to your face. I have some nice files you will love.
It will give you wet dreams after you see it. Hahaha. I have
15 suppliers to give Calvin Klein after shave one box of 50
is only 175 pounds, which by the way, sounds like they're running
an illegal, immoral grey market. Yeah, what it meant. According
to prosecutors, this is the first in a series of confusing
exchanges over the prices and quantities of aftershave and
stock buying. The prosecution said this was all code for
quantities and concentrations of hydrogen peroxide commonly sold
his hair bleach, the chemical was a key part of the bomb
design. I mean, look, I fuck the terrorists, you know, I want if
any terrorist Fuck you, I want to kill you too. But this is
bullshit. This is just bullshit. I'm sorry. It's BS. And this is
what these guys were. And it doesn't matter because no one
looks into this shit. No one's going to look at what at what
they were actually convicted of. It's like, oh, they were
convicted. I'm so happy that we're gonna kill 10s of 1000s of
us. Here's my water. Mr. TSA, please take my water
you should use that for the beginning of the show.
I will. Let me just let me just mark it out time out time. Yeah,
let me just mark it boom done marked. Okay.
Yeah, and I think your points well taken. So as you guys are
probably smuggling, you know, cheap cologne that I mean? I
mean, let's face it in Pakistan, they use a lot of Cologne. And
I don't want to generalise but I just like to know, in order to
make a an explosive device with hydrogen peroxide, you know,
what else do you need? And how much else of it do you need? You
look at that, that BBC video and literally I have here a bottle
of Vitamin Water is the exact same bottle which is 20 fluid
ounces. 591 millilitres is any concoction of hydrogen peroxide
with a double A battery as described by court documents is
that enough to cause that type of a ruckus and unless you're
transporting some type of highly explosive fluid along with it,
which probably would be too would probably blow up if you
dropped your bag. You know, can you actually can you pull it
off? I mean that's that's what I'm interested in.
There are things you could do with with by the way if you
wanted to make a small bomb you could do it with a hunt with 100
mil litre limit if you were wanting to make some nitrile
gloves
so all you have to do is put you know five different 100
millilitre bottles of shit and your little plastic baggie and
it goes through and you're at the same place this is no this
is no no forte.
Yeah, no I agree it's not a two word sport at all. They should
either ban did just ban all liquids. Tell people they can't
bring anything on the damn plane. Actually they'd like to
do is just basically make sure you go on the plane by yourself
and they strap you down for the whole flight. And you know and
then throw food in your face and you know, maybe Fiji and Fiji
and then that gets you off the plane Awesome. No knife for you.
Yeah, that that in the plastic knife. That's another classic.
Yeah, I do like the KLM pilots, though, whenever you fly to or
from the United States, they come on the intercom because the
KLM you know, they're Dutch, you know, they're a little laid
back, there's smoke and Doobs, up there in the cockpit. And the
captain will always come on and say, Oh, by the way, the
American TSA has told us to tell you, you're not allowed to stand
around the toilets. It can only be one person at a time. But it
literally is like they've made us tell you this. So we told you
don't worry about it. Something interesting, which of course,
did not nor will it hit mainstream happened the other
two days ago, I think, which is worth mentioning. And I think I
mentioned this to you the other day, and you said no, I hadn't
heard about it. So that means that it not only has it not gone
mainstream, it never will, Charlie Sheen, teamed up with
Alex Jones. And they kind of played like a media hack, which
I don't think, I don't know if it was really executed properly.
It certainly got me for a second, where apparently or the
story that that was released, was that Charlie Sheen had
requested a 30 minute interview with President Obama, and that
he was granted 20 minutes. And then Charlie Sheen wrote up a
transcript of his 20 minutes with the President. And this 20
minutes included Charlie Sheen presenting every single piece of
what I would, by the way, deem as credible evidence about
government cover up and government involvement in 911.
And so it has his questions and Obama's answers. Now, of course,
this didn't actually happen. It was just a, you know, this is
probably what it would have been in the whole idea is you go to
this 20 minute interview. And there's all these links of this
credible evidence that it that it was, quote, an inside job.
And although I think a great attempt to bring some attention
to the matter now that we're almost eight years after the
fact, I don't think it's really going to hit home. In fact, they
even saw Bill O'Reilly like called Charlie Sheen, a pinhead
and just played a little audio, quote, didn't even explain what
what actually happened. What what the whole what the whole
scheme was. But I do think it's interesting, you know, just to
read through it, and to look at, look at the different links. I
think I've said many times that, you know, I'm not an architect.
I don't know about thermite. I do know about aviation, and as
long as the official 911 commission report contains
extremely incorrect information about aviation and what
aeroplanes can do, I don't believe any of it. We know that.
So I have a jingle for that someone sent me. CC sad I love I
love it. No, that's fantastic.
W TC seven won't go away.
W TC seven won't go away. That's one thing for sure. So here's an
interesting story. There's your government at work again. What
was the price of that website? They're doing recovery.gov. It's
that was? Well, there's two prices we know now it was $18
million for recovery.gov and $53 million to secure the T essays,
computer infrastructure.
Well generated dynamische is one a $10 million contract to
develop a network of websites aimed at influencing foreign
audiences in support of the US Special Operations Command.
Okay, how does that work? A $10 million. Can we just set up a
WordPress blog for that? I mean, please. It's a one year deal.
You got to send me that link. I want to put that as a short
12 month option periods which means that you get more money oh
yay for work on the trans regional is a good one. I liked
this term, trans trans regional web initiative. A plan to
synchronise all US Combat Command websites designed to win
hearts and minds.
It's a love fest. A love fest contract.
I mean the original what's his general Okay, here's the
question on my mind. What the hell's General Dynamics doing
developing website jet maker something
it's well you know, they've got this intern programme and they
need the the interns to do something so they decided that
this would be a good one for him. It's horse crap John.
Just said They're just gonna job it out to somebody anyway and
take five of course.
Yeah, just give it to some, you know, two man shop to build, of
course.
Why don't we, you know, this deals
because we're too busy complaining about not being in
on these deals.
United States Department of Agriculture agreed last week to
buy an additional $30 million worth 30 million by the way
worth of pork from the ailing pork industry, for a total of
$151 million purchased this year to compensate the suppose it
damage run from the minds of the swine flu.
Yeah, I've heard about this.
You did it? Well, this tells you as to how stupid the public is.
Oh, my God, you can eat pork, you'll get a swine flu. Yeah.
Yeah. And your point is, a lot of people have sent me this
link, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. I will do
some more investigation. But in the past three days, there's
been like, 50 small aircraft incidents. When people are
saying that something weird is going on? I'm not quite sure. In
the US alone. That is. So I'm just making mention of it. Which
means that our listeners producers will send me more
information. I can Yeah, we need some help. Yeah, but it is
interesting. It is higher than average. I mean, you know, then
there's incidents and there's incidents, you know, there's
there's just dumb stuff that happens. But that could be a
number of things. It could be the for all I care, it could be
this the state of the moon, you know, affecting people's brains
and taking an idiot pill doing stupid stuff. It's not like all
crashes and stuff. But it is worth mentioning that there's
that is definitely an interesting coincidence.
So I've got another clip here I want to play which is I was
actually even though this was I think O'Reilly did this one. It
was taken as a kind of a light hearted thing. I was actually
distressed by this story, because I don't understand why.
What he was going to explain actually takes place hit NBC
store.
NBC News continues to support the president just about every
way. I love that. Their headquarters in Manhattan, the
NBC store is selling Obama merchandise, doll shirts, mugs,
you can get them all at the NBC store. Didn't see any Sarah
Palin stuff there.
I didn't see bold, fresh, but they may have been sold out. You
know, this is a story from I think it's at least three or
four weeks old. I remember people sending me the link. And
I was like, Well, yeah, so what you know,
find it distressing to head that a network that's a news
organisation behind it is got this kind of stuff for sale. I
mean, what is the point? Are they are they boosters for the
President's with the deal as
well, I don't know if it's any more distressing that Obama Chia
Pet commercial I see running everywhere.
I love that one.
That's like the old Obama.
I've been trying to catch that one. So I could get it. I keep
missing it. I
do see, I presume looking at the title of this clip debt stinks
that you caught the same commercial that I did.
Yes. This commercial has been on over and over again. And so but
and the problem with this commercial we can play it. Which
by the way, if you watch the Glenn now Glenn Beck but Lou
Dobbs, he has apparently not I don't know if anybody's
sponsoring his show at all. It's all you know, either unions or,
or special interest groups. There's no companies. And I
think he's like, I think they bailed out on him or some I
think it's weird, almost like public service announcements.
But this ad has been floating around. The punch line is debt
stinks at the end you get but the problem is, is very poorly
produced. You can hardly hear the kids, but they are doing the
pledge of allegiance to America's debt. I love it. You
can kind of catch the words. If somebody out there can can give
us a transcript of the words we'll put it on the show notes.
But once you play it.
American taxpayers owe more than 500 million in interest payments
every day to cover our government's debt. Much of that
debt is owed to foreign governments go to defeat the
debt
stinks. debts. Thanks. Have you gone to defeat the debt.com?
Maybe? Yeah, that would be the first place to look defeat the
debt.com
damage. I pledge allegiance to the debt. Some of the Chinese
government who own this Chinese government to its own I mean,
the whole thing is hilarious interest
compound ended. Okay, so there's a lot. Well, let's look through
this because I think they've got a lot of different a lot of
different versions of this commercial so we can probably
get a better, better version of it. Well, first of all, yeah. I
mean, have you seen what's what's been happening? You know,
as I was reading through, I think either Wall Street Journal
of Financial Times. And you know, we're right now at a
double whammy for the dollar. So at the very moment where people
are saying, hey, wait a minute, let's get out of this dollar.
And by the way, they seem to be going to gold, I might want to
point out at this, at the same time, this is happening, of
course, we're printing up massive amounts of dollars, so
that what you can happen is that it devalues and I'm just
thinking to myself, you know, Ben Bernanke, he was so much the
right guy to have in the Federal Reserve, because if you really
want to blow up the economy implode everything you want to
have the guy who was an expert on the Great Depression. It is
textbook, it is exactly it's the same blueprint, exactly the same
thing that happened is taking place now. And Ben Bernanke with
Alan Greenspan, preceding him, and Timmy Geithner now carrying
the baton, it's happening and the dollar is going to drop more
and more, it's now $1 $44.45 per euro is going to go to they're
already predicting $1.50. Of course, what that does, on the
other hand, is it makes your oil go up. It's now 70 to 73 bucks,
you know, at a time where we have no jobs. It's and and we
are just spending and spending and spending money that we don't
have. I mean, it's like duck use said the legendary words to me
the other day at lunch, hey, this economy doesn't look good.
Doesn't doesn't seem like it's gonna be real good.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
So here's another thing that's depressing play the in
Afghanistan clip, this is a guy this is a piece of a story that
was run on the network news. Er, and they're getting they're out
in the field in Afghanistan, they found some Oh, this is
actually on 60 minutes. I'm sorry, this was on 60 minutes.
And they're talking to this guy who casually said something that
I thought was like, course, they never question it or say what,
but just play this short.
For the captain scene here putting out the flames moments
after the blast. It was the bloodiest day, so far. Nothing's
easy. It's gonna be a long fight. I'm
not telling you that it's gonna be it's gonna happen tomorrow.
I'm not gonna tell you. It's gonna happen next year. But you
know, it might be 1215 years from now. And we're still in
Afghanistan.
Right? Well, so I'm glad you bring this up. So of course,
this is the necessary war, as our president calls it, it's
necessary. And there's lots of questions about it and
why it's necessary. Oh, it's
necessary, because this is where Al Qaeda stems from Bin Laden is
still holed up in a cave. And they are still plotting to come
over here and kill us. And there's plenty of news articles
to back that up that that that that is the story. And I was
just thinking about this harm. I Hamid Karzai, he is the
president of Afghanistan. And actually, I have to correct
myself. He did not go to school in the United States. He
actually went to a school in India, and he is a native of of
Afghanistan. But you know, there's always been these, this
talk about his brother, who was known as King Karzai. And he's
been accused of but I totally believe it, of running all the
drug trade in Afghanistan. And I'm thinking to myself, Okay, so
we went into Iraq. The first thing we did is we grabbed
Saddam Saddam Hussein, right. And we eventually got him hang.
That's just the fact. Now this Karzai dude who has been in
Afghanistan since 2001, he's been running the show there. We
treat him we kiss his ass all the time. You know, we got
everyone over there. Hey, Hamid, how you doin? What's going on?
And like, what how can this be? How can we aren't pressuring
this guy to shape up his frickin country? Well, because he's an
obvious plant. And you said something. At lunch again,
yesterday, John, which I looked up his it's not him, but his
brother, Mahmoud Karzai built a restaurant Empire starting in
San Francisco, Boston and Baltimore. This guy runs
everything. He owns the Toyota dealership, he took over the
cement factory, the only cement factory in Afghanistan, which by
the way, he did all the all he did is he came in put a bag full
full of $25 million on the table and said, and he was the only
bidder. I'm going to take it over after the government had
already confiscated it. So this is basically he runs the whole
show and Afghanistan. And if you don't go along with what he
says, and you're within the government, and this is a link
from the New York Times, fantastic article. The article
is actually from from a march 4. So you know, this is just the
stuff that the mainstream news media won't read. The delve into
although luckily, it's being reported on. So we've got this
trifecta of Karzai, who is in a Putin completely protected
presidential palace so that his hat doesn't get dirty and his
cape and is protected by of course, the coalition forces
you've got his brother running the drug trade is Wally is the
king Karzai, it's got his other brother, who runs all of the
business, all commerce and essentially is the is the
mobster. And now it makes so much sense. We've got the
coalition troops protecting this gang of thugs from the Taliban
who are actually trying to get rid of all these assholes. So we
are in there protecting the drug trade, which as you know, is the
way that Wall Street can shovel money in because the only type
of entity in the United States that can take money outside of
the country without you know, registering that if it's more
than $10,000 are publicly listed companies. So we've got the
drugs flowing back and forth freely. We know from Bloomberg
that it's a completely commoditized industry, they can
tell you exactly how much the poppy stocks are up or down.
They say it's up, you know, production is up. 22% How the
fuck do they know this? Because it's all registered because it's
a big scam. We are over there protecting this gang of thugs
that feel. So my understanding is that restaurant in San
Francisco that that guy owns is pretty good.
That's the downside. You can hate the guy because he's got a
good he's got a good restaurant. We should go there. Let's go eat
there this week. We should let's go eat and we should ask
questions. Hey, by the way, did Hamid Hamid come by lately
you've seen him where?
days right after 911. He was he was in the city. And I guess he
rushed off for some reason they think he rushed off to go as
soon as presidency. And so there was a lot of there was a few
news stories about it. They thought it was quaint, that we'd
have to do it the way they played it though, of course, as
these guys were in exile, running this rich, huge chain of
restaurants in Boston and San Francisco and it was quite
interesting. Well, it's sure the food's good. And Afghanistan
food is
white. Let's, let's go eat there. We've got to eat there.
So but you know, when you just look at it all at face value, it
just becomes so incredibly clear what is going on, you know,
because there's nothing else going on in Afghanistan except
drugs. You know, Bloomberg is tracking it like an oil
commodity that I bet you there's somewhere there's a futures we
can buy on it. You know, the Karzai is not being pressured.
In fact, he was just reelected or not technically reelected
yet. But there's, you know, every single organisation every
watchdog said, hey, there was ballot box stuffing, there was
huge fraud, that like that doesn't matter. We're gonna
count those votes anyway. And then what's his name? Holbrook,
who was the special envoy, ie a czar? You know, he's been
saying, Oh, well, you know, you shouldn't count those. And you
know, they're afraid of them. John, I believe the United
States government that the administration is afraid of
these guys, for a couple of reasons. One, they don't want to
get the drug supply cut off, which of course, is being flown
back a military, military, military planes and transport.
And they don't want to get banned from the restaurant. I
think that's probably the number one that would really really
suck because you know that Afghani food is really good.
Spicy. Yeah.
So I'm thinking this is a this is horse crap. And on top of
that, you know, it's all it's all coming from Pakistan, you
know, when are we gonna go invade there instead of just
sending unmanned drones over to kill people? Kill me, that's
lame. You know, that's like, if you want to go fight, fight,
let's watch this boom, fight. And then they keep blowing up
civilians all the time. And I thought it was Al Qaeda and now
it's the Taliban. Why is the Taliban because the Taliban had
completely obliterated the poppy fields. They got rid of
everything. They had a couple of other radical ideas that you may
or may not agree with, but hey, don't go live there. Okay. I'm
sorry. Just don't go live there. Apparently you can get out and
you can do quite well in the West. You can come here you can
build a restaurant chain. So don't live there. If you don't
like the shit that they make you do. I love women. I love women's
rights. I'm sorry, I can't change it. We got enough
problems in our own country with women being suppressed. So let's
concentrate on that first. But no, we're over there and we're
protecting these guys. That's what it seems like to me, I and
Iraq. So did our president not say that he was pulling the
troops out
is vague I don't think he said I think yeah, he did actually said
they're gonna be pulled up by 2012 or something like that.
He is pulling the troops out but he's replacing them.
Yeah with with guy should cost even more money Exactly. He's
replacing them
by the way when did the army have to be catered? I mean used
to be you know in the green zone if you're you know, they have
these catering companies they had a huge contract they've got
Burger
King John burger giant JP Where's the guy
that could appealing up potatoes to, you know, the sergeant of
the mess hall whatever happened to these things this is how you
save money on these war efforts is cost a lot of money to have
all these private mercenaries and private catering companies
and all this other stuff. None of this stuff costs. No wonder
we're going broke. No wonder we are broke. This is why we're
broke.
I had I have pictures of when I was at Basra airport in in
southern Iraq when I was there in 2003. I was blown away. I was
like, Hey, let's go eat. I'm like, okay, you know, and then I
had actually been in the Dutch Marines camp. And that was
pretty much everyone has KP duty, and it was really peeling
potatoes and shit. Although there was some catered stuff.
And I'm like, Whoa, Burger King, but with a sign, you know, not
just like a tent with like, a Burger King like a franchise?
Right there. With the logo and everything. Yeah, I'm not
kidding. I'm not kidding. And I'm looking for the I'm looking
for the link here. But this in the past week, another $485
million worth of a contract signed to send more contractors
over to over to Iraq. Let me see why is this not opening up? Come
on Linky.
While you're doing that, I'm going to ask him kind of a
rhetorical question. I was watching some of the C span this
week. And by the way, which is the reason people should be
contributing to this show, because we talk to torment
ourselves. I'm watching this thing. It's at the steamboat
Institute and one guy is talking to another guy.
I saw this the steamboat Institute. Fantastic. Yeah, go
ahead. But yeah,
but here's what gets me there's a guy from the Galen or a woman
from the garlic guy. I don't know remember a guy from the
Galen Institute, a guy from the Cato Institute at the steamboat
Institute, and they're all talking about this and where did
all these Institute's come from and where all these guys these
blowhards. They seem to be manufacturing them by the tonne
that sit around going to other institute events. And from in
one Institute talking to another this is worse than the
government. Well,
this is how it works. That's what the CFR is Council on
Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission the
steamboat, which by the way was hosted by Blakely who I think is
an interesting character.
They sit around Now that wasn't a member of an institute.
They sit around they dream up shit and then they basically get
lobbyists to go and push through their agenda. This is how it
works. This is what this is how that's the real government right
there. When you know USAID, who by the way, is sending millions
to Afghanistan. Were sending millions to Afghanistan. They
shouldn't get shit from us. If they're trying to blow us up.
Why are we trying to give them money i that
boggles the mind. Use that as a clip to
hear listen to this. This is my favourite link of the week. I
need a jingle for that. Adams favourite link of the week. We
have finally, John, broken ground. You think a website is
expensive. We have finally broken ground on the Homeland
Security complex. Do you know how much this complex is going
to cost? An office building essentially?
Well it office building can't cost more than about a good
office buildings should run you about 150 million.
Okay, try $3.4 billion $3.4 billion for a department that is
only what two years old?
Well, that should piss off the other departments. Well, listen
to this. This is this is my favourite quote. So upon queried
why the Department of Homeland Security needs a $3.4 billion
complex. Secretary of Defence or Secretary of Homeland Security
Janet Napolitano said it will help us hold meetings it will
help us build that culture of
One DHS. This is more expensive than the Pentagon.
Why isn't the public up in arms about this sort of crap? Because
no one knows about it. Why isn't the media talking about why what
is the problem with this country that people don't say Hey, this
is bull. You're not building a $3.2 billion building where they
because they're going out there looking for ways to save money.
Oh, look at that good person. They they bought a box of
popsicles. You'd have to take that off the budget as we say we
were costing us 10s of dollars is a popsicles
as we say in aviation John while you're looking at all the little
ship on the map, trying not to fly into it. You crash into the
mountain that's right in front of you. That's the way it goes.
You know nothing to see here. Jingle.
Don't look over here. Nothing to see. Look at that. So our job,
if anything is to, to at least bring these things into the
topic of conversation. I know it's very difficult for people
to get friends and colleagues and fellow students to listen to
this programme. We of course, are deemed completely nuts,
crackpots, idiots, not part of the programme. But maybe you can
just talk about some of the things that we discuss, we have
links for all of this, and this particular story about the
security Homeland Security complex. It's a CNN story. So I
believe that the people who are hypnotised and programmed by
cable news media will take note of it, and they'll they'll take
your link serious if it says cnn.com in the URL, but get the
conversation started. Because that's, that's about the only
thing we can do. And we do it almost as a public service,
almost.
But yeah, we did get some contributions. And I'm gonna
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listeners, and we only have a very small number who contribute
the rest of the people think that we can just keep doing this
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Give me the number again.
120 dot one, two, there's a lot of potential for sixes who
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I appreciate that.
I think we should get more of that. Richard Baumgarten,
Ontario Canada it's a
start is what it is John, it's a good start.
We need more. Adam earnest his last name is spelled er from
Ankara Turkey for $67. By the way, these odd numbers that come
in from Europe I think is because they give us your house.
Right exactly.
Comes in his three euros, three euros. So yeah, three euros.
Now. That's
better. It's exactly 50 euros.
It probably is so I so he's from angry. We need more euros, maybe
50 euros is all you need to give us anyway, in Ankara, Turkey. I
think that's cool. We have a Turkish producer, Scott Scott
Wald her Scott Wald hers. 100 bucks out of Minneapolis. Thank
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No. 5023 I'm sorry.
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What is bite marks do you think
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I hope they build websites and I hope they get a $18 million
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Earlier So what does it cost to fly a little plane? Is it twice
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of quick as we wrap it up a couple of quick notes. HR 1207,
the Audit the Fed bill will enter into the hearings. I guess
that's hearings or committee. I'm not quite sure Friday,
September 25, nine o'clock, as promised Barney Twinkletoes
Frank, has agreed to hold hearings on it. So that's good.
That's a really good start. Although John, you maintain that
it'll never pass? Oh, of course not. But it's a good start. So
at least we can get some conversation Well, we'll get
good audio clips, there'll be some you know, we're gonna get
interviews and stuff like that. So. And I just wanted to
mention, finally, what you haven't heard throughout this
entire programme, and that of course, now I have to play at
least once a mack daddy, he perhaps white women and black
women, Obama is a long leg mack daddy. Although highly
entertaining, we figured that would be pretty offensive to a
lot of people, hopefully to some people in our very own audience.
One of our employees, John, over bvo, Maggie came in, you know, I
have a great relationship with Maggie who was I shouldn't give
her age, but she's older than 50 and younger than 70. And I think
she's an ex Black Panther actually, she asked me she was
threatened to kill me several times. And she said to me, I
mean, we talk about all kinds of crazy shit. And a lot of the
stuff we discussed on no agenda. And you know, and it's fun,
because she'll really push back in some time, but she's a total
Obama bot, and I kid her about it. And so we have a great
relationship, which is really private, not part of the
workplace, although they usually take place in the workplace. And
she said, Oh, have you heard about have you heard about the
LA guns? I'm like LA guns. That's a that's like a rock band
from the 80s from from the West Coast. La guns apparently, it's
some mailing list that she's on, which is a part of the NAACP San
Francisco chapter. And she forwarded to me which I can't
post of course, because there's all these email addresses and
and she forwarded me this entire thread of NAACP members, I
presume, who have now finally found Pastor Manning, and oh my
god, the stuff they are writing. So she said, he's gonna get
killed here. Where can I find someone who for five CDs will go
and kill this fool? And this kind of stuff that is in his
email? I mean, it's, it's here, I'll just read this, be sure to
click on the link and check this black fool out. African
Americans need to develop a strategy for dealing with
educated ignorant Uncle Tom steppin feathers suckers like
this. With a PhD, a Bible, a microphone and an audience. This
is a dangerous man and in the year 2009 He has the nerve to
record this garbage and the conversation I tried to get into
with her which was just impossible was mad. I
understand, you know, the guy, obviously, the guy is passing on
a message, which is not okay. Although it's interesting how he
explains what he means by this and you might want to and I
said, hey, check out this where he explains what he means with
mack daddy. She's like, No, we have to kill him like this. But
that makes no sense. This is a thing of freedom of speech, you
know, whether you like it or not let the guy talk. And now you're
just bringing more to the forefront by exposing him to
everybody. Not discussable not discussable. Well,
that's the way it is with the the true Obama bot.
Yeah, I guess, too, anyway.
But it is a little incendiary. I would say yes. But But it's
funny. I think there's humour there. I don't know why people
just don't think see the humour. I see
the humour. And that's what I tried to keep telling us. Don't
you just see the humour? She's like, there is nothing funny
about that said the guy's wearing a purple dress. Come on,
get over a minute. Yeah. And she couldn't see that. Oh, well.
Yeah, it was. Let's try on Sunday maybe to discuss because
there had been some updates with my eminent domain situation
which are quite interesting. Because there's some huge
government's scam happening in in the United Republic of
California. Here. I also
have a right after the Obama speech to the second being the
phone rings and I got a call from a survey person. And I put
the recorder on solid we have good
Oh, did you talk to the survey person? Yeah. Excellent.
I took the survey.
Oh, great. Love it. Coming to you from the crackpot command
centre located in the minimum security containment cell under
a real threat of eminent domain in San Francisco, California get
one nation West. I'm Adam curry.
And from a warming trend, northern Silicon Valley. I'm
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