Hey Ricky Ricardo, you ready for me?
Hit it. Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak. It's August 30 2009. Time for your gizmo nation audio
publication episode number 126. This is no agenda coming to you
from the 17th century canal house crackpot command centre
and Amsterdam Gitmo nation East straight from the catwalk to
your iPod. I'm Adam curry,
and from fogged in Silicon Valley north. I'm John C.
Dvorak. Levin Buzzkill.
Almost not in the morning anymore. It's almost in the
afternoon.
We're gonna play time. It's only 1030. Yeah,
sorry about that had a little bit of family biz to take care
of.
That's fine. If people don't care. Most people probably
aren't even up by nine.
Well, they aren't. They're on the East Coast. I like eight
o'clock.
At East Coast. It'd be 11. So that'd be watching football.
No, please. And on Thursday. I'd like to do it at I'd like to see
we can do eight o'clock.
Eight o'clock.
Yeah. On Thursday. Yeah, get my nation West time.
Where are you going to be?
I will be flying while I fly back from Chicago back to
Amsterdam on Thursday morning. And so I got some stuff to do.
You know, stuff.
Okay. Yeah, I can do eight, probably 815. Cool.
So anyway, I just got back from the old couture fashion show
where my lovely daughter my now 19 year old daughter was on the
catwalk.
She and she didn't fall
she almost did slip out of the shoes. You know, the it's funny
when you go backstage in one of these fashion shows, you know,
the clothes, these clothes are not really made for these girls.
That's why they're all kind of like one size. So you know,
there's like gaffer tape and clothes pins and all kinds of
stuff and shoes. You know, here's some shoes. What? They're
two big sticks and tissue paper in them. Yes. Here's my two year
old kid. And she's on this big ass catwalk and the and all the
nations press is watching her and she's like, and the shoe was
almost like flying off her foot. Yeah, I saw it. No one else saw
it. Then, you know, it was it was cool.
Every every year two or three models. Take a tumble. It's
always the best ones. I've done that YouTube.
Yeah. And Christina and I discussed this please don't
become a YouTube clip. No, no, I'm not gonna I see the great
job. I was very very, very proud papa.
So yeah, that was so how tall is she? Well, she way
none of your business you dirty all she has
to be at least five as well. No, she's one of the tall tall
types. Are the are the shorts? Shorter, skinnier ones she's
at? Well, she's I'm not quite sure what she weighs. She's
She's skinny. But not crazy skinny. She's got beautiful,
curvaceous,
skinny they are Yeah, yeah.
But she's five, seven. So technically, she's a little too
short. Oh, she's
short. Yeah, but
she's a celebrity model, dude. So she gets so she's allowed to
get away with it. And you know, at the end where the weather
Designer comes out. And then he always takes one of the models
and takes her up front of in front of all the press. Of
course, he took my daughter all the way up front. It was cool.
It was fun. And it was a harrowing moment wave and yell
Hi, Daddy. Hi, Eddie. No, but I was going like looking at me
like shut the fuck up dude. How you doing? So anyway, so that
coincided exactly with our normal kickoff time for for the
show
so what's going on over there in Europe, I saw that they they now
have you know coincidentally leaked the memos that show that
the Iraqi or the I'm sorry, the Libyan
Oh, in the in the UK. Yeah, that it's all about oil. Yeah. And
they leaked they mysteriously leaked these documents of
course, which is that by based on our theories as to cover up
for the real reason they released the guy and they just
basically throw Gordon Brown under the bus say all was for
oil. We screwed up. And then they that's just let us forget
the fact that maybe they have the real evidence. It was the
whole scheme was Melson.
Yeah, I'm telling you. It's pretty blatant, almost. I mean,
we predicted it. I think actually, you predicted it. And
it's exactly what happens in the oil. Well, we found some demos
from two years ago. And that of course is exactly why this was a
whole oil swap. And now you know Gadhafi son is now he's being
pushed to the forefront. Of course, he's going to take over
eventually, you know, the typical way it works in in a
world world stage politics. So
yeah, and talking about that kind of thing. My here's your I
think there's gonna be an interesting situation happening
in Massachusetts, by the way all All this morning as all it was
for another day, Kennedy, Ted Kennedy and Ted Kennedy. I mean,
it's like this guy.
When you go when Ray going, given this much inquiry, you're
gonna go on a rant but I'd like to say something before you go
on the rant. It pisses me on rant. I hope you are because
I've got a jingle for your rants. It really upsets me. No,
they pisses me off. That here we are. Yeah, that's no, that's all
Old English. And a H, and a wind. Hey, anyway, the eyes and
the nays. So I say a name. It pisses me off that here, we have
to have, you know, the whole coffin with the flag draped over
it. Yet, the American media has expressly been forbidding from
showing any young service men or women who are killed in the line
of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan, you're not allowed to show their
coffins. But let's show the drunk. Let's show his coffin.
Oh, by the way, let's put him in Arlington Cemetery. I guess the
barrier to entry is pretty low. John, we should reserve our plot
there, we can be there now.
So here's the deal. Here's what I'm seeing seeing coming down
the road. They've already talked about who's going to replace
him. And, you know, they're trying to push to caucus. No
kidding me. No to caucus is like at the top of the list. But you
know, who is there going to? I think before all is said and
done to try to push another city and and I'm thinking that
dingbat, Carroll.
Well, didn't they try that? Didn't they try that in New
York? Well, they, they tried to put her into Hillary spot. And
then Carolyn garden. Right.
Right. She backed out. She backed out of the deal. And I
think to be honest about it. I think that somebody came up to
her and said, look, it's gonna be a tough go anyway. A lot of
flack. Let him beat the crap out of you. Then there'll be some
sympathy because Teddy's not long for this world. Why don't
you do it in Massachusetts, you can be closer to home.
And you know, they talked that way. And the old geezers gonna
croak man, don't worry about it. You get your spat bibs.
That way, people talk.
I met her I was introduced to her through of all people, Tom
Brokaw. And she's very nice. And she seems
like a very pleasant person. I actually wouldn't really object
to this, but I don't think she's the brightest bulb in the pack.
I also met Now who's the who's kind of like the loser of the
family. It On. So it's not her, not her cousin. It's the guy
who's actually running the Special Olympics who was doing
that with Eunice.
And of course, now it's taken Robert Kennedy, Jr. Maybe? Oh,
no, no, no,
no, no, no, it's a god. I had dinner with him once. Yeah,
we're still million. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them
running. But Carolyn Kennedy, this was when she was doing the
library. And she was interested. This is in the late 90s. She was
interested in putting the JFK Library on the internet's and
she had asked Tom Brokaw who who could help with that. And I
thought I was tickled pink that Tom Brokaw said that I'm
courageous or talk to him. Like yeah, cool. No business. No
business whatsoever. I showed I showed her the, you know, here's
what we'll charge you. What you won't do it for free for
Camelot.
I'm sure that's what they're looking for.
Yeah, well, you know what I said there's no service for you. She
was totally looking for a freebie.
Well, anyway, I think that this hasn't cropped up yet. I'm just
kind of predicting it's a possibility. It's totally
possible. But Dukakis isn't the other the you know, the other
side of that equation that he's going to be trying to get in
there.
And you know, Dukakis, of course has a bad rap. I really wasn't
following politics that much at the time. In fact, that was
pretty much enslaved to the Gitmo nation system and bought
at all with the rest of them. Of course, they would killed his
presidential run his careers the goofy ass picture of him in the
tank with the stupid helmet on and no one could take the guys
seriously. Classic. That was that was the Howard Dean scream
and you had the Dukakis helmet gaff sticking out of the tank
looking like it looked goofy man. He just looked like it was
hilarious. really was and I ran it over and over and over again.
And and that's how you don't become president in the United
States. It doesn't matter. If you're in Italy, you can be
screwing models. You could have naked people hanging out at the
pool. You can have questionable romances with 18 year olds,
divorce your wife, sue the newspapers. And yeah, you're
cool, man. You're hanging no problem.
Yeah, well, that's Italy. So anyway, the other thing that's
going on, there's a couple of interesting things happening
over here. I mentioned one, the US Chamber of Commerce is going
to trial and global warming. Yeah, they went to trial. on
global warming, because they just but I was reading through
some of these reports, especially the ones in the New
York Times, and they're kind of they have kind of a twisted.
I got the the LA Times version of the story,
because the New York Times version, and I'm sure the LA
Times is they've twisted the thing, just subtly that so
people maybe don't notice. It's instead of discussing whether I
mean, the real issue is, is there such a thing as manmade,
global warming. That's not
whether there's global warming or not, but whether it's
manmade.
Right? Now, the other what they're, they're twisting this
to say that that's not there. This is weird. You have to
really read between the lines to kind of pick this up, but what
they're really trying to do is have a have a trial on not where
there's manmade weathers global warming, but whether global
warming is bad.
Yeah, I like that one, though. That makes sense. But
it's, it's totally beside the point and twisted. You know, is
it bad? I mean, they can't prove it one way or the other because
it's obvious. It's not provable. You know, it's like, you know,
is, here's gonna kill you in 2.6 years, here's
a great quote, you
want to know and joke for 2.6 years? Great quotes
from the LA Times. The Chamber of Commerce proposal, quote
brings to mind for me the Salem Witch Trials based on myths that
Brenda Edwards sold, which sounds like a witch named, by
the way, who was a client, climate scientist for the
environmental group Union of Concerned Scientists. That's
kind of crazy, though. When your name is Brenda Edwards. And
you're talking about the Salem witch trials. Well, Brenda, you
might want to change your name. Okay. Hey, sound like eucalypt?
Yeah, so they want the EPA to jump in on this, right?
Yeah, they would that arrogant woman that runs it. She'll just
tell them to
stuff it was that. What's her name? And I
can't remember. I mean, I just remembered I can still see her
though. Anyway,
well, that is that is interesting. And of course, the
reason why the Chamber of Commerce is doing this is
because they represent medium and small businesses. And those
are the businesses that will get hit the hardest the scores,
yeah, because of all the, in fact, I was reading that the
Netherlands speaking of Gitmo nation, East, they I'm gonna see
if I have the story here. They have just put out a tender for
their carbon trading system. Since they plan to actively
trade here, of course, we have your own next to the option
exchange in Amsterdam. So I guess they're there. They're on
board with the programme.
This is just some deputy just cap and trade thing is
ridiculous.
I wanted to mention speaking of the Netherlands that you
remember the the court case we talked about about the the Dutch
Royals, who sued Associated Press Satoshi for their photos?
Well, the headlines read Dutch Royals when privacy case. And I
find that I find that highly interesting, because first of
all, I looked into the court documents, and they sued the
Associated Press. It's about four pictures. And these four
pictures were of them while they were on vacation in Argentina.
And they feel that they sued the AP under the European Human
Rights legislation. Wherein the state had every human being has
the right to privacy. And so the judge said, Well, you know what,
yes, everyone has the right to privacy. So those four pictures
had no newsworthiness. And they also do not contribute to the
broader social discussion. Ergo, they are deemed private, and may
no longer be published. But of course, the judge didn't, didn't
say you can't take pictures of the royal family. It's just that
hascon and Jews worthy. So you know, it's kind of, it's not
really a win. They got no money because they were suing for you
know, 25 million or whatever. In total. They were they were suing
for 25 million. Yeah, like $25,000 a day that they kept
each of the pictures up, and then they want to do it
retroactively. And so that came up to some huge, huge number. So
they got 00 money, and they really didn't get a win except
me. I guess it's kind of interesting, because now any
celebrity could essentially say hey, you know, this is private,
I'm on vacation, screw you go, you know, eff off. Unless of
course, it's newsworthy, and that is the big question. When
is it newsworthy?
Well, according to the tabloids, anything that celebrity does is
newsworthy. You're right.
And of course, what was funny is everyone's showing the pictures
because of course, the whole conversation isn't newsworthy
conversation. Ergo, you can show the pictures. I mean, it's the
stupid world. Like, okay, so but I do like the headlines
everyone's like, Oh Dutch Royals when horrible freedom on the
prize drive, screw you then win anything.
So here's an interesting one that's, that's floating around.
You've read this, I'm sure. You know, the W H. O, which is weird
operations.
The World Health Organisation, this is the severe warning they
put out Yeah,
yeah, no, wait, let me get this straight. Now my understanding
is when you categorise these various viruses. One, if you
have an h one n one type XYZ, let's say, and you have another
h one and one type XYZ, it's the same virus. Yeah. So how do you
have a severe version of it? Well,
let me just say exactly what they reported. According to
Reuters, doctors are reporting doctors quote, some Doc's and
doctors out there are reporting a severe form of the swine flu
that goes straight to the lungs, John, straight to the lungs,
causing severe illness and otherwise healthy young people,
and requiring expensive, I love this expensive hospital
treatment. It really clicked for me when I read this. I'm like,
of course, it makes so much sense. No one wants to be caught
with their pants down with a very expensive treatment from
the street to the lungs version of the flu. So we better rammed
some healthcare reform through there. It's I think it kind of
fits if there was a global strategy, well done a little bit
late, but Well done.
Well, this is assuming that they haven't tweaked the virus just
to make it a little more powerful. I spoke about earlier
if you remember that, right.
Well, yeah, of course. They're even saying that does make it so
it kills everybody. What they're doing is they're they're now
saying, Hey, this is exactly what happened with the 1918 flu
pandemic known as this the Spanish flu, which of course, is
horseshit. Because that was completely different that
happened in soldiers who were sent over and ships who had been
oh, wait a minute, vaccinated. And because of the vaccination,
and the any vaccine, particularly with an adjuvant,
and you know, hey, this weekend, virality, whatever the heck the
name your show is, I may be kind of paraphrasing, but from what I
understand is if you have severe stress levels, it can actually
make activate a lot of shit. And it can make it worse, and it can
wind up killing you. But it's not the same thing as the 1918
flu, but they're now comparing it to the 1980s. Remember, they
dug that corpse up and got some DNA? It makes so much sense.
John, they dug up that, that that dead dude, they got some of
the 1918 flu, mix it up, tweaked it a little bit, and we're off
to the races.
So I'm looking at this document saying the Spanish influenza
epidemic of 1918 was caused by vaccinations. I didn't know they
were giving vaccinations back then.
But it was I don't think it was for the flu. I think it was for
something else. But they vaccinated all of us because
they get some other stuff in Yeah, yeah, they vaccinated the
soldiers
that were shipped over to Spain, which is why it's called the
Spanish flu. And because of the stress of being packed into
ships at F 1918, you know, it wasn't exactly, you know, the
Boeing luxury liner. Doctors, of course, are questioning this
even ABC News has report on that all this stuff is in the show
notes at no agenda show.com by the way.
All right. Well, on the topic, let's find something
interesting. So I was looking into this story and I ran it ran
into an old posting from Kelly Pandit back in April 2005.
Discussing who the who is incompetence, and mainly about
the fact that they're trying to get baby formula to Africa and
they claim that you need it because there's not enough
breasts I guess. But they ran into this. This what say what
needs to be more breasts have my attention. So anyways, they're
just it's just a very interesting article. I'll put
the link I'll send you well, it's under Kelly
pundit.blogspot.com and it's from April 6 2005. Some of you
have to look it up. Anyway, but he or she, I guess it must be a
she says got an I found this interesting quote from a 1992
book called malaria capers, for printed by Norton and coming out
of slouch. She says read here to find out how radical activists
have kept the safe life saving life saving insecticide DDT out
of this paramount to mass Out of use that is paramount to mass
murder. Oh, I'm sorry, that's population control. Go read it
yourself. I'm not kidding. And then here's the quote from the
book, population control advocates blamed DDT for
increasing third world population. In the 1960s. The
World Health Organisation authorities believed there was
no alternative to the overpopulation problem, but to
assure to assure, then up to 40% of the children in poor nations
would die malaria, as the official agency for
international development stated, quote, rather dead than
alive and notoriously reproducing.
But John, are you now coming over to the dark side? Are you
finally believe me? There's actually a group of people who
do believe in triangulation, who are trying to kill us. And I
would look at the Bilderberg Group, that's kind of the guys
that I'm thinking of.
That's what you do. So me most people should go to the
Wikipedia and look up Margaret Shan and this is that, that Ms.
Swan type person who's running the W H O.
W. H. O. She is freaky.
She was initially trained as a home economist teacher in the
north College of Education in Hong Kong. Then she earned her
bachelor's degree in home economics, and finally got an MD
in the University of Western Ontario and 73 and 77
respectively. So actually, she got her home economics degree in
73. They got an MD and blah blah blah.
So there's two two Doc's I want
another lightweight that somehow got bumped into this position.
She's a Mind
Control Freak. She does. He does whatever it she's she could be
Kim Jong Il's illegitimate Sr. Look at her. A white paper
published by our favourites the RAND Corporation in March of
this year, sponsored by Sanofi Pasteur. Of course the one of
the makers of the h one n one vaccine identifies parental
consent laws, medical homes and lack of access to medical
records as main barriers for immunising low income
adolescents, but they have a solution. Listen to this from
the white paper, it would appear at first blush that vaccinating
teens in a school setting would be a practical way to address
the barriers posed by the lack of a medical home schools are
the only place where the vast majority of adolescents are
found consistently and predictably. Many of the
barriers we identified while seemingly distinct, were tied to
current consent laws. We found that the requirement that
parental consent for vaccination be provided in real real time
clearly limits the vaccination of adolescents in such venues as
schools where parents and adolescents are not likely to be
together. So separate them get the kids in schools and to to
the arm. That's nice, that's really nice. Rand Corporation.
Meanwhile, Gitmo nation East in the United Kingdom, remember
those swine flu call centres they set up where you could call
in if you if you had symptoms, so they could take you through
the skip logic as our friend
we call it skip logic you did to to the arm,
skip logic, and then you could get a swine flu buddy to go get
some Tamiflu for you. Well, there's nothing going on.
There's no calls coming in. In fact, the managers of these call
centres are allowing the people manning the phones to play
Trivial Pursuit and monopoly while on the job.
Well, at least you're doing some valuable time.
The ministers or the health secretary Andy Burnham of the
UK, who of course you know, they put 100,000 people on the phones
you know, it's a 40 million pound operation and that these
folks are basically being paid to play Monopoly and probably
solitaire on their on their PCs way to go dudes way to go.
Hey, by the way, a few people out there are gonna play
solitaire on the PC, play spider. With a full deck with
all with all the chutes. It's it's very, that'll keep you
busy. You only you know, once you learn how to play the game,
right? You went about 3% of the time, but three games out of 100
That's very good, time consuming game.
Another John C. Dvorak. No job having tip. Yes. So you know,
for those of you listening to us, or maybe you're new to the
show, you're thinking, what are these two jabroni is talking
about, you know, vaccination is, you know, I just want to say on
this very programme about a year ago, I certainly was telling
you, anyone who had daughters, please do not let them get
vaccinated with this Gardasil crap. This is the HPV anti
cervical cancer drug, which was poorly tested, was known to only
maybe protect a child against are a female against seven of
the 12 possible types of cervical cancer. And by the way,
you have to have sex to actually be infected with servo. In this
case for this type of cervical cancer, there are so many
stories coming out. And this is one from examiner.com, which
will be in the show notes, just to show you that we are not
entirely nuts. There are stories here on this on this one page
that are just gut wrenching when you read about girls that died
that it became paralysed, and you know, and we're healthy
16 1718 year old girls, and they took the first shot, they had to
come back for the second shot by the way, the shots like 300
bucks a pop, third shot, boom, they die. And there's just
tonnes and tonnes of stories from all over the world all
related to this to this horrible so called vaccine, which of
course was as far as I can tell, probably not a part of the out
to kill us scheme but more like a way to make up for the Vioxx
that that of course was taken off the market, they had to come
up with another money making scheme.
It's all about the money
and to kill us.
So do we have some clips from me?
I got some clips from you. And I got some clips from me. You
wanted to play
one of my clips? Yeah, sure. Just run the target talking
about the medical system. I got a kick out of this one this
woman. This is a kind of a long clip because she's too chatty.
And I couldn't really cut it down that much. But you can
interrupt it as you normally do this with Sally Sue Patel. And
she just finished a book she was on C span. She just finished the
button book talk. She just finished a book called when
altruism isn't enough. And it discusses essentially the idea
explain
the world. The word altruism, John I don't think
you do. It's like doing something for nothing. In fact,
what she's talking about specifically, is people who give
away a kidney to save somebody else's life. Which is a really
an altruistic thing to do. And she points out that you know,
everybody in the process, from the kidney bank, to the doctors,
to the nurses to everybody and their sister in the hospitals,
they're all making money on this transaction, except the person
who actually gave their kidney,
this big money in them spare parts.
And so as she makes the argument that there shouldn't be a market
for certain things. The words if you feel like selling your
kidney for $50,000, cuz you could use the money. And you're
healthy.
You should be able to do that. Yeah, well, this is what this is
what these guys New Jersey, we're doing right? The Rabbi's
that were all involved with Oregon trade. I mean, it's a
billion dollar business,
did the ideas that shouldn't be legalised? She thinks and you
know, even though I know what the counter argument is, well,
if that's true, then everybody in China will be given up their
kidneys because you know, it's going to be a human, you know,
disastrous humaneness. And then the other thing, so she goes on
and on, she discusses part of this. And then at the very end,
that's why he had those in the whole thing. You all of a sudden
realise, oh, wait a minute, there is a vested interest in
here in this in this whole scheme of things to actually
keep kidneys off the market. I wonder what group could that be?
And you kind of listen to this saves money and saves lives.
Thank you for bringing up to the public in the book. In fact, one
of the appendices is, well, that's funny.
I love how she slips in appendices. No, no pun intended,
by the way,
covers the literature on on polling data. And there have
been surveys and polls done and great preponderance of of these
surveys have found that the majority of people are very
receptive to this concept. And surprisingly, so even because
they've often been in these questionnaires have often set up
a market system, you know, these are your choices we pay, or we
do this or we do that, but cash is one of the and still people
will say this is something we should think about. So that's I
think you're right and
soft. I'm liking this. I'm thinking we need to set up a
trading system, John, whether this could be a complete
computerised market, like cap and trade, or you know, like
pork bellies.
Anyway going
on the case, I think when the public is way out ahead of the
experts, the as I alluded to before, and you asked about
where the resistance is coming from. One major obstacle is the
National Kidney Foundation. They're cheap and cheapening the
gift and logic that I find kind of inscrutable. What's
especially surprising about the National Kidney Fund Vation is
that they were once very much in favour of doing pilot studies on
incentives, up until the early 90s, late late, or women through
the 90s, excuse me, they kind of changed their tune in 2000. And
I have theories, although frankly, I'm not exactly sure
why I think it had to do with a change in membership of their
board. There's someone on it, who is a very outspoken
opponent. And so the National Kidney Foundation is not much of
a help to us here. And unfortunately, they are
considered, they are considered a grassroots organisation.
They're not a grassroots organisation. They're an
organisation of professionals. They have close ties with the
dialysis industry, which is which is fine. You want the
dialysis industry to have the best. I'd love to be out of
business, but not because they're a bad industry. I just
wish people didn't need dialysis.
Yeah, there you go. Yeah. That dialysis dialysis Of course.
Yeah, that makes so much sense. You know, I have to say, of
course, you know, I think there's its strongest argument
against a free trade in Oregon's is that, you know, the worry
would then be that people with no money wouldn't be able to
afford the spare parts. But are you allowed to donate your own
kidney to your own child or parent or our friend or anybody
who wants to you're allowed to do that, right? Yeah,
that was a hilarious 30 aka the episode this last season where
this guy finally finally finds his his dad. And then the first
thing that dad wants is his kidney, because it got a bad
kidney. Anyway,
but of course, expensive dialysis business Yeah, of
course. That's why we keep it illegal. It is illegal I
presume, right?
Oh, yes. Yeah, you can't go around selling your kidney at
the to the highest bidder,
but you can give it away if you want.
Yeah, that's okay. And that's what did you she mentioned this,
this cheapens the gift quote, which is apparently one of the
arguments that the Kidney Foundation uses no no you can't
sell it because then it cheapens the gift does not you know you
keep giving expensive one to go on. Cheap gift. I mean, you know
you pay good selling it is it's just cheapening the gift the
gift the gift
I'm looking because I saw a story about the wife here I can
find this I actually I skipped the story but now you brought
this up it's it kind of fits right in maybe won't be able to
find it but it was it was exactly about this and it is a
billion dollar industry the illegal trade of organs it's
huge. And you're honestly if here it is 42.9 euros per arm
let me see for ARM Yeah, let me see how come this thing
you can see the problem here but the same time
that that by the way is cut off my arm that's a current market
price German
company is it okay if I go one armed
listen to this. The German I'm just I haven't read this the
German company to to Jin's business and body parts is as
secretive as it is lucrative it extracts bones from corpses in
the Ukraine to manufacture medical products as part of a
global market worth billions that are centred in the United
States. Go figure you can read through that. I'll put that in
the show notes for sure. Yeah, but that's uh well I'll tell you
though, if if a loved one of mine needed an Oregon and we
were on a waiting list you can better believe I'd be scouring
Craigslist I'd be looking for him I'd be looking for some some
Oregon's I don't think you can stop that. Craig's List. Isn't
that where they usually show up on Craigslist?
Yeah, right. You listed with curse? Yeah. Notice, by the way,
talking about hookers?
Yes, I have a Timothy Geithner clip. Ready? Are we talking
about something else?
Oh, you have a Timbo play that clip.
Geithner was interviewed on something by the fine Murdoch
publication known as The Wall Street Journal. And I didn't
know this existed. It's actually very cool. It's the dig dialogue
with Double G. So there's like dig questions. And then the
questions that get the most digs are then asked and this this
dude Allen, whatever his name is, he actually starts off well,
you know, I'm just kind of the facilitator here. So in other
words, all these questions that are really creepy that you're
about to get, you know, they're not really my questions, but
they're questions from real people. And of course, these
there's the stories which are good questions. only have like
500 dig so it's not a lot of not a lot of people that
we actually posted this video on the blog at the mark that org
slash blog for anyone interested.
Yeah. So couple of clips from that. And of course the the
questions we really want to know are, you know, hey, you've
you've got all these, like golden dudes running around, you
know is that okay? And so I have a part of the question and then
Geithner's answer which is just excuses question
that lies behind this. There's another question here. It's the
fifth question from ki th, B. With 579 579. digs.
It's like no one gives a shit. Exact no one cares. Just how do
you by the way Britney Spears no underwear, stepping out of a car
10,000 digs feel about the
revolving door between high job positions in the Treasury
Department and Goldman Sachs. You worked for Bob Rubin who ran
Goldman Sachs before he was treasury. I worked for him as a
civil
servant. I love how he's like saying I'm not a part of Goldman
Sachs. I'm not part of those guys. I have nothing to do with
them. I just worked for them as a civil servant at the Treasury.
But while he was treasury secretary
and while he was Treasury deputy, not not at Goldman Sachs
he was he wasn't a GM they had nothing to do with Goldman and
nothing at all had
a Goldman Sachs radical Messiah you Hank Paulson, Timmy
Geithner,
Timmy Geithner, do you think that kid was like pestered at
school with that big head his like, Timmy is a dork and he
can't get laid and
was your predecessor as Secretary of the Treasury? He
ran Goldman Sachs, Steve Friedman, who was co head of
Goldman Sachs was the chairman of your board that we might
request at your request
and my request, but I have nothing to do with Goldman
Sachs. It was my request my request.
Yeah. To the New York Federal Reserve Board. I think you have
some Goldman stuff. Your Chief of Staff was a lobbyist for
Goldman Sachs. Oh, I thought
we wouldn't have any lobbyists. I'm mistaken. That can't be that
cannot be happening. Because there's no lobbyist here. I
think it well, you really made the same as you're gonna have
only lobbyists. Oh, okay. I misunderstood.
Yeah, clearly, this makes some people nervous. These are,
let me just say these are deeply honourable men.
That's where I lost it. These are deeply honourable men. Oh,
yes. These are men who are deeply honourable.
Great, helpless, deeply honourable. You gotta keep that
clip. Great public
statesman, okay.
Willing to come through their country. Dude, if you
asked me to be in the treasury, I'd show up. I'd be there in a
heartbeat. No problemo, buddy. I'd be deeply, deeply dedicated
and exceptional and
very challenging times and give them a metal Timmy did
exceptionally good things for the country. It's very important
to recognise that we're in.
I wish he could tell us which exceptionally good things they
did for the country. But he kind of skips we have to recognise
that besides the point Yeah. recognise it no matter we have
to recognise it you shall recognise recognise exactly what
they did you fools don't you understand? You will.
position where this government was forced to do exceptional
things to save the economy from the brink of catastrophe.
Which of course hasn't worked, because we're still on the
brink?
Would we be changed it save us from the brink? Shouldn't we be
saving us from the catastrophe? No, just
no big deal, just just the break. And the people in this
country need to make sure we have people in these jobs here
with experience and markets. So that as we negotiate with
these experience in manipulating markets firms,
to make to protect the taxpayer, make sure we're getting our
money back, that we have people that understand these markets
can actually understand them. So we will always be as the
Treasury has always done. We will always be looking to people
with experience in the financial community, in business community
coming in these jobs, because that is important for the
American people. And so there
was no one else of all the all the financial wizards in the
world. They all had to come from Goldman Sachs because they're
exceptional men who are dedicated to their country. It's
impossible to find them anywhere else at Goldman is why they're
the Valhalla of finance. Wouldn't you agree John? Must be
just one one important fact. You know, we're making some progress
in banker bankrupting the country ready in walking back
some of the broad and investment walking back
some of the what is I love not seeing the video. I love just
listening to it because the words have so much more
important importance when he says we're having some success
walking back some of the what does that mean walking it back?
Guys worse than Vivek Kundra,
is it like a fanny pack full of money or something coming
walking back? Oh, hey, Timmy. Here's your money
said I'm gonna have to make an industry and we're doing a
relatively good job that earn a good return for the taxpayer.
Just to give you one example. The average return we've had on
the $80 billion of capital of investments that government made
that we've now had repaid. The average return for us is roughly
60% an annual rate
A 16% annual rate so that doesn't mean they actually pay
the money back. That's just the sick they're paying 16% interest
or I don't know
it's vague to me it's very clean it's paid back a bunch it was
paid back by Goldman I did which they use
the gold the gold listen to it says it's the Goldman deal. I
think we're the Goldman thing he calls it.
A Goldman Sachs investment higher than that higher than
six.
I think the Goldman thing is in the in the mid 20s, the Goldman
thing, okay, one thing, it's the thing, all right, at Goldman, we
have things.
But the important thing is that you need to have people in these
jobs. These are complicated, difficult in any times, they're
exceptionally difficult, complicated. And it's kind of
crisis like this. And the American people need to have
people here who understand and can negotiate effectively can be
the other side of things to make sure we're protecting the
financial interest of the American people.
And I totally agree. It's just it's amazing that they're only
to be found the Goldman Sachs now, I've got another clip,
which is about all the phone calls that went back and forth
between Paulson and the CEO of Goldman Sachs. Of course, this
is what Paulson was being interrogated about,
like Paulson didn't do email. I hope this is more interesting.
In the last clip, you didn't like that clip? No, it was kind
of boring.
Well, I think you'll find this one rather interesting, because
now he actually explains with all these exceptional men did
see you've got to listen to these things in secret.
Key period last September, September 15, Lehman Brothers is
allowed to fail Lehmann, a major competitor of Goldman Sachs.
Next day, AIG is bailed out.
And of course, $8 billion of that bailout went straight to
Goldman Sachs, the government,
AIG was on the other side of numerous credit default swaps
that Goldman Sachs was involved in. During that week. We now
know that Lloyd Blankfein, the head of Goldman Sachs was on the
phone a couple dozen times with Secretary Paulson, talking about
their golf game. He says he was on the phone, some with you that
same week. Are you surprised that that gives people a sense
of inappropriate contact between these Institute's
listen closely to what he says about these exceptional men, all
these great guys at Goldman Sachs, all these statesmen, all
these patriots, what they do,
like the things we've been through as a country, we still
face have made the American people just deeply angry and
frustrated and the Angley Angley cup sceptical about the quality
of judges made by this government. It's a completely
understandable thing. And we have been forced to do just
extraordinary things, and in frankly, offensive things.
Thank you. offensive things. So what is it extraordinary
offensive
to help save the economy from the risk of even more
catastrophic damage? And that requires and required us in part
because we have so poor tools coming into this, doing things
that are going to be deeply unpopular, but we do them not
for the benefit of any institution. And I am completely
confident that None None of those decisions that you refer
to anything to do with a specific interest of any
individual for much less Goldman Sachs,
what does that mean much less Goldman Sachs? Take it from
Timmy. Timmy says I am completely confident there was
no gambling going on here. I won't play the rest of it is
to discuss that he apparently he's not going to say anything.
You want to hear his answer about his own tax evasion.
Oh, yeah, yeah, he That's right. Forgot he's a tax evader.
Yeah, like seven years worth of taxes. He Oh, I'm sorry, I
forgot to pay. So of course, the question is, Hey, is it too
difficult to figure out what you're supposed to pay in taxes,
Timmy
from his went coast 690 digs, you failed to pay some of your
federal taxes in 2001 2000 to 2003 2004. Please explain.
You've explained it before. They're asking you to explain.
He's
actually saying you've explained it before. Please explain it
again. What does he do? He doesn't explain it again.
I have no, it's understandable thing. I was the President's
nominee to be Secretary of Treasury. You would expect my
tax history to be of interest American people. It's completely
understandable thing. And one great strength about our system
is that people who are asked to do these jobs,
this is this is great. He's already gone off to another
topic. He's not he's not answering your question,
have to go through an exceptionally careful review of
their entire financial personal professional history. That's
good. And a great strength of our system is all that
information was put in the public domain. Congress of the
United States had the opportunity Goethe makes me
puke.
We're transparent. That's what that's all he's gonna say. He
doesn't ask doesn't answer the question. Just says it's really
good that everyone could find out about it, isn't it? Wasn't
that really good? That was fabulous. So of course, the
reason why Timmy Geithner is interesting is he's part of this
lawsuit now. That is ongoing about. I think Bloomberg. We
talked about this months and months ago. Bloomberg is suing
the federal reserve, not the Treasury necessarily, but the
Treasury, of course involved to find out who the Federal Reserve
Lent $2 trillion worth of money, our money to what banks that was
and of course, the Federal Reserve says, We can't tell you
that. That's your money you're not supposed to know. And then
we have Dr. Ron Paul, Congressman Ron Paul's bill, HR
1207, which calls for an audit of the Federal Reserve and the
Federal Reserve is saying, Oh, well, we can't do that. We have
to separate monetary policy from politics. We don't want the
politicians messing around with that. Do we not in our private
little affairs, a little bank, our our little scam is going on
here. But Barney Frank slips up, John, and he says that HR 1207,
Ron Paul's bill, to audit, the Federal Reserve will actually
pass the House in October. What you said would never happen. No,
you want to hear him say it.
No, I'm not saying that. He didn't say it. I'm just saying
this. This the Federal Reserve is not going to get audited.
Barney Frank says it's gonna happen.
Barney Frank
Twinkletoes. Barney Frank says it's gonna happen. Well, the his
actual words are, you'll find the
you try to understand his actual words. And he's like, sounds
like he's got a mouthful of mush.
Oh, hold on a second. It's not it's pretty easy to understand.
And I'll fast forward to the I'm running a prostitution ring from
my house in Washington, DC. And but that's okay. Because let me
fast forward to the bit. We're actually says it.
We are going to put some constraints on it. Finally, we
will subject them to compete on I've been working with Ron Paul
to make sure that he agrees that we don't want to have the audit
appear as if it is influencing monetary policy. Could
we also take one of these interesting, so the reason why
he said it would if it would create an inflationary run. So I
guess the whole the whole thought behind this is if they
find out which banks were lent all this money, people would
have a run on that bank and would pull their money out and
that would be an inflationary Ron, is that what happened, Mr.
Economist?
Well, I'm not Mr. Economist by any means. But I can tell you
this much of my bet I found out my bank had a whole crapload of
money, I'd feel a lot more secure. Bank, I wouldn't go take
the money out. Oh, exactly. Well, besides that, if all your
money's insured anyway, this whole thing is not going to
create if they're starting to talk about an inflationary run.
They're trying to set up, you know,
set up a bank, they're trying to they're trying to set up a bank
to fail. That's what they're doing. They're going to set up
some banks to go down here. Listen to Barney last last 30
seconds, I'll
show you what the Federal Reserve by themselves and that
will be made COVID are not instantly, because that would
mean instantly you would have a lot of people trading off that
would have too much impact on the market, you can recruit for
that. So we will probably have that data we'll reach out to a
time period of several months enough time so it wouldn't be
market sensitive. That will be part of the overall federal
regulation that we are adopting a year from now. The past
probably in October,
vago The House will pass it probably in October. Okay.
Barney Frank.
Yeah, okay. Well, they probably will pass it maybe. Anyway. Bite
law just sent me an interesting thing, which is Geithner's
notice of resignation. Why took the job he hears not of his
resignation to his other things when he took the job. Oh, he had
to resign from a bunch of things to take the government job
right? Yeah, it was only
public service. Only no public service only he was a public
servant. He just told us so.
Well, that may be true. We but he said But here's what it says
in his little note that he signed by the way his signature
is very strange. Upon confirmation, I will also
resigned from my positions with the following entities the
Centre for Global Development Board member the Economic Club
of New York trustee, the RAND Corporation trustee the
Partnership for New York City X official board member the
National Academy Foundation Board Member director
International Rescue Committee overseer that Trilateral
Commission, Bada bing, there you go baby. The Council on Foreign
Relations member, the group of 30 Whoa, member you haven't
heard that one.
I know those are the people who really want to kill us, I
think the Bank for International Settlements during the Peterson
Institute for International Economics director and the New
York State Commission to modernise financial services
member
up to this dude was pulling down a million a year easily in board
fees.
Since I would do not hold any financial interest in these
entities. For a period of one year after my resignation from
each of these entities, I will not participate person only
works for one year, only one year period of one year after my
resignation from each of these entities I will not participate
that is that. Is he saying he's only going to be in this job for
a year or what?
Well, doesn't that mean that after a year he can hop right
back in?
That's what it sounds like to us here. Put this on the show notes
and let people deal with it.
I don't think John C. Dvorak. Hey, I got a message. That's why
you do it. Right. John C. Dvorak. Drag. John, stop it. Oh,
nice message. Thank you. I think you can have this is great. Mr.
Yeah, it's quite interesting. Oh, this is amazing. Yeah. Oh,
wow. I wish someone
would analyse this guy doing his public service,
public service, right? The RAND Corporation. Rand Corporation,
what a lying sack of shit this guy is. I just gotta call him on
it.
So let's go with a clip I've got here since I wanted to get the
one thing out of the one thing out of the way because I think
there's a break a breakthrough commercial came out. That needs
to be discussed a little bit since we were still in medical
for a while. I wanted to get this out of the way. Which is,
you know, one of our commercials which has the disclaimers, the
one.
Oh, yes, of course disclaimers as we know, look at your pack of
cigarettes, when it says that you will die a horrible painful
death, it actually triggers your brain to want to buy them.
Now this one is for some I'm gonna get a set up on this. This
one's for some Alta, which is an anti Depression, depression
drug. And if you can listen to the beginning, we might have to
play it over at the very beginning. You hear somebody
laughing, huh? And then you hear some birds tweeting, tweet,
tweet, tweet. Very important, very little pitch about why what
depression is all about? And she says you can't do you want to
meet people and then there's a dog bark. Just in the middle of
nowhere. It's very interesting. The subtleties behind
you know, they research that shit. You know, they've
researched all that
stuff. Yeah, absolutely. You get you're looking to the dog bark
woof. Anyway, so And there's all subtle, but then when she kicks
into her, this girl who's the announcer was quite good. But
then they obviously they taken the part where she has all the
disclaimers, and they've sped her up. And they've also clipped
out a lot of the whitespace. In fact, there's one spot where
John was talking over herself.
You know, we could do a three hour show if we did that if we
sped it up and cut out the white spaces.
Exactly. Now wants you to play this but the thing that's
noteworthy bring up at the end, it's very short, pro and then a
very long the disclaimers are believable.
Okay, this is the commercial for Cymbalta.
When you're depressed, where do you want to go? Nowhere. Do you
feel like seeing depression hurts in so many ways. Sadness,
loss of interest. Anxiety. Cymbalta can help. Cymbalta is a
prescription medication that treats many symptoms of
depression. Tell your doctor right away if your depression
worsens, you have unusual changes in behaviour or thoughts
of suicide. antidepressants can increase these in children,
teens and young adults. Cymbalta is not approved for children
under 18. People taking me a wiser thyroid disease or with
uncontrolled glaucoma should not take Cymbalta taking it with
NSAID pain relievers, aspirin or blood thinners may increase
bleeding risk. severe liver problems some fatal were
reported signs include abdominal pain and yellowing of the skin
or eyes. Talk with your doctor about your medicines, including
those for migraine or if you have high fever, confusion and
stiff muscles to address a possible life threatening
condition. Tell your doctor about alcohol use liver disease
and before you reduce or stop taking Cymbalta, dizziness or
fainting may occur upon standing side effects include nausea, dry
mouth and constipation. Ask your doctor about Cymbalta.
Depression hurts. Cymbalta can help.
Cymbalta rocks. Dude, this sounds awesome stuff. You might
get dizzy when standing.
So here's the interesting thing about this commercial besides
the fact that I like to don't hear the dog barking. Yeah, I
heard the tweet tweet I heard the dog and I love the music and
how it you know kind of like a this depressing it's like you
know you want to it's like a Leonard Cohen vibe there.
Here's what's interesting. The the sales pitch at the
beginning, which was very short. It wasn't much of a sales pitch.
It just kind of depressing in itself. You know, you want a
people you can you get Yeah, it's actually very 20 seconds.
The commercial had to run one minute and
15 seconds. Yeah. So it was actually the whole commercial.
The whole commercial length is all the disclaimer of all the
good stuff. Like you might want to kill yourself.
They can't even make another words that this stuff is so
weird that they can't even jam it into a one minute commercial
segment and they have to buy a special package because the way
TV ads are sold are sold in 30 seconds and one minute ads.
There are 15 seconds could just hear in there, so they had to
buy a special, special deal and get a minute and 15 to just keep
yammering about what the whole bad thing can happen to you.
It's unbelievable. It's not bad,
John, it's really good. That sounds exciting to me. I mean,
there's all this great stuff that can happen. I mean, jeez,
and it's legal. I mean, why would you deal with the illegal
crap?
I am waiting for the one minute and 32nd commercial, which is
just laced with it couldn't even get to 30 seconds of sales pitch
it was 20 something like 22. But isn't
that whatever never understand about antidepressants is Isn't
it supposed to stop you from wanting to commit suicide? How
come it actually can make you want to commit suicide?
Cuz you looked at your doctor bill. Listen, you know what you
paid for one of these pills?
Let's listen to this. Listen to the actual the pitch here is
great. Where do you want to go? I want to go to the toilet.
Nowhere, I just want to stay home and be depressed. While we
wait, I
want to preface this. I generally don't want to leave
the house.
John, this is targeted directly at you. And in fact, I like it
that way. Depression hurts in so many ways as true sadness,
sadness, loss of interest, no sex drive, anxiety. Cymbalta can
help. Cymbalta is a prescription medication that treats many
symptoms of depression. Tell your doctor right away if your
depression worsens, you have unusual changes in behaviour or
thoughts of suicide.
Thanks, doc, I don't want to kill myself.
Stay away from these drugs.
Really, please. I mean, now I actually want to advocate we get
again.
So bite loss and say, oops, and it's going to load a PDF. I made
a mistake and clicking on it. sent us another document, which
is Geithner's financial disclosures. And in there, he
did not list the Trilateral Commission
who missed one Timmy, talking about our friend Vivec. He's
overseeing Yeah, he's overseeing another fantastic project. Of
course, the $18 million website. Oh, no, much better than that,
you know, the TSA, the Transportation Security
Administration, they have a lot of IT systems that, of course,
you know, if those were, you know, hacked, for any reason,
you know, that could be serious business, you know, they might
not be able to detect your water in your bag going through the X
ray. So SRA International is going to help protect the
information technology systems from to prevent cyber attacks at
the TSA $53 million. Wow, for a firewall essentially.
Well, you know, the public wants to get raped, it's fine.
No one reports on this.
Well put it in our list of things to look into. Yeah, there
wouldn't be any reports Why would anybody bothers to
complicate it? So hit the hit my guy clip just changed the pace
here for just hit to hit some hit mouth or something.
Our formula is this. We go out. We get people in the mouth.
Obama change you can believe in wedding tag.
So I want to play that every so often. That's a good transit. I
think that's a good segue clip. Because it doesn't mean
anything. It's actually a promotion for the San Francisco
40 Niners. But I don't think they're gonna run it anymore,
because two flights got violence are in the bad. So I found this
to be a humorous clip. I got I'm watching Clinton, Bill Clinton,
he's he's talking to a bunch of liberal bloggers at some big
meeting. And these bullet these people are just like, you look
at the
way these be like DailyKos.
Probably, but it was a huge gathering. It was a lot of
people that were just, let's just put it this way. They're
kind of goofy looking, and many are
shaping and we're talking about, we're talking about Hillary
Clinton, right.
And so Bill Clinton has to give no Bill Clinton is giving a
speech to these people. And he just said something out of the
blue, that everybody eventually clap for him on this, but I'm
listening to it. I heard it a different way. And I can just
hear it, listen to it and tell me if you thinking what I'm
thinking,
including a trip to Africa now with the only female elected
president on the continent in Liberia, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf,
but a couple of days ago, she was in Gulf Goma in the Congo,
the site of one of the most difficult refugee camps. in the
entire world, I don't know what you think. But I think American
secretaries of state ought to be in the places of human misery
around the world.
Are there is what he's saying? He's saying
what he said there? I'm not sure. I think it's
right. And Bill right on keep her there. Put her in that, in
that refugee camp. She's nothing but trouble. She dismay. She
dismayed big time. That's good. I like that.
So for my last presentation, I think so I'm listening to I've
decided that that Law and Order Special Victims Unit, which
we've talked about on the show before, is nothing more than a
propaganda tool.
Of course, we've already connected the producer of that
show to be best as buddy of George Bush, who of course is,
you know, still in bed with you know, that's all it's all part
of the gang.
So this this episode was about teen pregnancy. And it was a
girl one girl some gang leader, you know, she decided that
everyone should in her group should get pregnant. So they all
got pregnant based on some stories, supposedly, it turns
out by the way, the story was bogus.
The EU the UK had a couple of cases of that.
Yeah. And it turns out if you really look into there, there
just was it was some journalists idea of a good story. But
anyway, just play this clip because it has a couple of
interesting little cultural tidbits in it that I thought
were amusing.
today. Why don't we talk about the father of the baby? So
what's your story? Excuse me? Give Kids you're pretty old.
We're here to talk about you about your jealous old chicks
are totally jealous of me.
All that's how kids talk by the way. I have an 18 year old
that's exactly how they talk not is that makes you wait too long.
For Delia, a baby is not an accessory. It is not a bracelet
or a pair of earrings are a slammin pair of jeans. Yeah,
just
ask Angelina Jolie or Madonna. It's done an accessory not to
have one yourself. You gotta go get one from Africa.
This is a living breathing human being that you are bringing on
to this earth you think I don't know that you did. You'd be
petrified about your future. Do you know the odds of a teen mom
finishing high school forget college, or any other dream that
you might have? Life as you know it is over now. There's no going
to the mall or hanging out with your friends.
Oh, bummer. Oh, life is endings
I mean you might see them but if you do it'll probably be in line
waiting for food stamps or all of you going to the doctor
trying to get an appointment at the free clinic any maker
because enough protective Do you know the health risks to babies
of teen moms? Dyslexia, retardation? increased risks of
blindness cerebral palsy, don't you
try to blame my daughter? Oh my god. She's so bad. This actress
that she actually is she's stumbling over the list that
she's been given to read the health risks
today. What when she's reading that when she's reading that
list, she actually looks down at the list.
Looking at the list. Oh yeah. Cool. Let's do it again.
Risks to babies of teen moms. Dyslexia.
That almost sounds like an edit man. I wonder if the video but
hasn't had dyslexia?
No, it looks real
Lexia retardation, increased risk of blindness. Cerebral
Palsy,
don't you try to blame my daughter.
She's looking down. At read rafted dyslexia. She looks down
at something. And I just got the sense that it was just the
blindness one she couldn't remember what it was.
You know, whatever works,
some wrong with our bananas, John Doe, not ours. But
oh, no. Bananas are dying. They're getting no more bananas
in the world.
No more bananas for you. Sorry. What I met? Yeah, from Angola,
to Uganda, bananas are dying. And it's an aneurysm John C.
Dvorak. And the Nanos are very, I'm not even going to look at
your message. Bananas are very important food in, in white in
general, but in places like Africa, and they're dying.
Yeah, well, there's a there's a we should both read about this.
But I've been told a little bit about it. And apparently, strain
of bananas, the most popular banana has been inbred so much
that essentially it has a it has a genetic endpoint where as in,
you know, two or three more generations of the same banana
and it's just not going to stop Well, you
know, what do you mean of course, it's going to stop John
you know, there's, there's always salvation You know that
don't
you think you know by the way this is not the first time this
is this is not the first banana breed that has died off on us
but there used to be one that was more popular that we don't
even know you and I have never had one
I wonder who could help in this situation Oh Wonder
so I wonder if said what did it shows Monsanto in the story?
Let me say I'll have to look at this extra link here. I'm sure
they are not.
We're telling you we're giving you the word up in advance
Monsanto get on it.
Let me see. It's a BBC story. Sign scientists from the
Consultative Group on International Agricultural
Research research which I think the acronym is cigar use the
statement saying drastic and expensive control measures were
needed. They recommended completely excavating entire
banana fields and treating them with pesticides not mentioned
specifically but yeah, you know it's on its way.
Yeah, hopefully. We can we need there. We need Monsanto support.
Well,
who's reading another thing about here the International
Paper Company the world's largest Pulp and Paper maker,
we've been following the paper industry for some weird reason.
They plan to remake commercial forest in the same way Monsanto
Corporation revolutionised farms with genetically modified crops.
International papers arbour Jen joint venture with me West vacco
Corp. and New Zealand's Rubicon Limited is seeking permission
from the US Department of Agriculture to sell the first
genetically engineered forced trees outside of China. Where
it's called
reservado, by the way, yeah,
well, we're doomed.
I don't know why they just can't genetically engineer paper to
come out the ground as paper.
Well, why don't we just use the Sony ereader with their
electronic paper?
Well, that would Yeah, there you go.
You know, just let trees grow. I mean, jeez. I mean, they've got
I don't understand that we've got plants shutting down in
Finland, because there's not enough need for paper. But for
some reason, now, the US Department of Agriculture sees a
need to put in Franklin forests.
Yeah, I think there's a good need for that. That way, you can
make them in a smaller area. So I wanted to bring it to do some
business that we you know, we our website, the for some
unknown reason, the PayPal link stopped working. Yeah, sometime
around Wednesday, like Thursday, so we didn't sure our income was
off substantially. And I can't I'm not gonna blame everybody
for not giving us money when a lot of them went there. But now
you can go back and there's a We also changed a couple of things
on there. And I wanted to go through some of our donors. This
is Sunday, so we have to do donor day. Did we
get anyone asking for ringtones?
That's the interesting thing. No.
How incredibly interesting.
It's interesting to me, it's like, you know, we don't want
your ringtone so
people actually listened to the show. This is just like, now
click on this buy his button and click Oh, it works. Oh, I'm
gonna give this guy some money. You're asking for a donation.
That
would be okay, too. Yeah, but let's go over the donors. This
week. We had Ian Smith from Cleveland to UK give us 60
anyone named Ian is usually from the UK. Yes, typically, John
Matthews coughed up another 200 He's been giving us he's putting
together his own programme to become a knight so he's getting
there
isn't easy on the layaway programme?
Yeah, no, he's on anyone who wants to do one of their own
layaway programmes instead of clicking just wants to give
certain amounts when they feel like it just as long as they
keep their own books. there as far as I'm concerned, same
thing. And you know, it's it's all in the database, so it's not
like hard to figure out. BC computers or BBC computers is BC
computers and Bloomfield, Connecticut. 50. Then we have
one from a guy who's given us money before give us another 100
But he doesn't want his name mentioned he wants to John
Hawkes name mentioned that that's his boss, isn't it? Yeah.
Curb Appeal concrete. Business I
bet you they bank with mechanics bank lug is Bosnian. Let's give
him another plug. John, please. I think that's a good idea. If
he's in the cement business,
John hawk. Yeah. Curb Appeal concrete. Yeah. DUI help.com and
other $50 Tiny empire.com 5150 We know what that means. It
means we're crazy. Then we got an interesting one from Rhodri
Phillips for 100 bucks from a namah namah namah namah doo doo
doo doo doo phenomena. Mahna Mahna moraine Bahrain and Mahna
Mahna Mahna Mahna
Lorena now you can use that in your next MarketWatch column.
Mahna Mahna Mahna Mahna Mahna Mahna
Mahna Mahna Mahna Mahna definitely tell
Alfred person in Hemet. 100. Solomon, I think I think we
mentioned last week from Jackson Heights so people who send us
money on Sunday morning, sometimes they get mentioned
twice like Trevor Fisher in Seattle. Now the one we missed a
couple people when we missed a Jake Kelly, who sent us some
coins. But the one I have to read it's gonna take a little
time here, but it's not gonna take too long because it's
probably worth the effort. This is
Oh, hold on, John.
I'm losing. Okay. Barbra Streisand. 16 She wants us to
plug friends of Crowl Halacha, which is apparently her old girl
scout camp. And as fri and D. S friends of Cr OWELLHIL. AKA she
says that the some developers have talked perhaps have talked
the Girl Scouts Council into dumping this place for to build
condos or something. And she's annoyed.
Okay, and how much does she donate for that? Plug?
for that? Plug? 60 bucks. Wow, nice. Thank you. So 50 for the
show, and 10 for the plug. Since Summit County, Ohio, anyway, but
anyway, I would like to encourage people to go check out
the new donation page. Okay,
so now it's working. Everything is the buttons are working on
the website.
Yeah, and I added a new button for a $5 a month subscription.
And via divorce.org/n. A and also you can link to it from no
agenda.squarespace.com. You click on the shield and it'll
jump over to this site. We're going to keep everything there.
So I can fix it when it needs to be fixed. I have no idea where
those links went bad. Makes no sense.
I think it might have to do with a relative link or something.
And where the maybe, yeah, where the domain name change or
something like that. That's that's usually the kind of stuff
that happens.
I don't know, maybe I don't know. Just the whole thing
seemed I didn't make any changes. I didn't move any of
the artwork around or anything. It's just doesn't just died a
miserable death. Okay.
I do have one more little kind of wacky theory if you're
interested. Yeah. Reading through the at least the the
published health care bill, which is, you know, about the
length of Atlas Shrugged. Oh, yes, I got it in to over 1000
pages, there is a section in there. C 11, section 2521,
National Medical Device registry. And I just like to
read this to you. And you tell me how you take it. And then
I'll tell you what my thoughts on this. The Secretary that
meaning that the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall
establish a national medical device registry in this
subsection referred to as the registry, kind of like Windows
to facilitate analysis of post market safety and outcomes data
on each device that A is or has been used in or on a patient and
B is a class three device or a class two device that is
implantable.
Okay,
so I'm thinking, This, of course, is not language that I
can understand. Because I'm not quite sure what it means to
facilitate analysis of post market safety and outcomes data.
And why does it say outcomes data, not outcome data? I think
this is the mark of the beast getting set up, John. I think
this is the chip. They've got the chip baked right into the
healthcare. I'm
talking about a heart pacemakers what they're talking about.
Well, that's
a chin too, isn't it?
It's not a chip. It's a big clunky thing.
Yeah, but but but your pacemaker will definitely have to have a
have to be readable.
Yeah, I'm not going for this one. Okay.
I don't know. I was right on Gardasil. I should be a doctor.
Oh, God, can you imagine?
Yeah. If Timothy Geithner if Timmy Geithner can be Treasury
Secretary then I should be able to be a doctor. should be no
problem.
Hey, it did play they hit me in the mouth clip one more time. I
just want to hear it.
Formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth
All right, yeah, just a formula. Yeah, just a couple. That's our
formula dish.
The United States may refuse a visa to Hamid Karzai, his
running mate. He, of course is the CIA plant who has been
running Afghanistan. This dude his running mate is so and I
think there may be a riff going on. I think Karzai actually
believes in the hat, you know, made of lamb foetus skin. And
then he actually thinks that it brings in power, because
everyone's like, all over this dude. Now, of course, the
elections, he walked out of a meeting with Holbrook, who was
the special envoy, whatever that means the envoy, because his
running mate is a known heroin, drug trafficker Cha Go figure.
So there's definitely something weird going on with the US and
they're in their plant. You'll remember that Karzai was
literally planted there, you know, Bush went over said, Hey,
here's your palace. You know, you just watch, I want you to
take care of everything here. So there's something brewing.
Something else that I think we if not specifically discussed,
alluded to the weirdness of the cargo on that freighter that was
hijacked by pirates. Now from multiple sources are saying,
hey, you know, it seems like Israel Secret Service, ie the
Mossad was behind the hijacking of this Russian freighter
because it apparently had cruise missiles that were being shipped
to Iran yet da. But it was always supposed to be timber. So
put that in the in the shownotes really say
lay the wood to them, maybe they're talking about something
else.
And, and, of course, President Obama has provide some
transparency about the search of the US Border and Customs
patrol. They will still be able to search your laptop and any
other electronic devices to make sure you don't have any
terrorist data that you're trying to bring into the
country. Although it should now take no more than five days to
to scan your hard drive. And no more than 30 days for searches
by immigration and customs agents. So more of the same
stuff.
Yeah, no, I saw that thing where they can apparently grab your
laptop for no good reason. Yeah. Well, that
was well, I thought that was kind of go away that idiocy, but
I guess it's just staying right in there. So more of the same.
Anything else? You know, the problem is well, no, no, right.
Right. Right. You're breaking up. Yeah. You're sure what? Wow.
I'm sorry. I think you need to check your machine because
there's something seriously wrong with it.
Yeah, the thing is, I've done two other things on this machine
recently. And it it came in loud and clear both ways. So I think
there's just a there's some mismatch or maybe it's this time
you know, when we do the show at eight in the morning, we net we
have less problems, but we as we go later in the day, these
things start to crop up.
Okay, then then let me ask you this. Finally. John, do you
sometimes eat tortillas?
Occasionally,
do you drink?
Who doesn't?
Do you drink too? Was it to cocktail or to Kate beer? Takata
I don't drink Tocai I think it is p
Okay. It tastes like P but you might I mean if someone served
it to you.
It smells like pee. It smells like pee. I don't know what PJ
Are you? Are you are you known to play Spanish music sometimes?
I have been known to play Spanish music.
Well, John, then you qualify for the warning issued by the US
Forest Service which is investigating and targeting
campers who eat tortillas drink Takata beer and play Spanish
music because you might be growing marijuana illegally by a
friend.
And what's the reason for this? Well,
they issued the they issued a warning and said you've got to
be on the lookout for campers in Colorado in the National Forests
who are eating tortillas drinking to coffee beer and play
Spanish music because you're probably growing marijuana
illegally. And they're profiling people who actually do that to
participate in these three activities.
Send your son your tortillas again give us away
but the beer smells like pee.
It does smell like pee. You know when somebody said that was like
how do you do there used to be Have a story that the Mexicans
peed into kadhi because they went to the United States with
it. And I said, What a crock of crap. And then somebody at one
of the stores around here have a huge palette of Ducati fell over
and busted all over the place. So you'd smell it smelled and
let's see where that came from smells like pee.
Coming to you from a rather noisy 17th century canal house
crackpot command centre where I believe the sushi is being
prepared. Someone's hungry. I'm Adam curry.
And from the dashi the veil of fog lifting now northern Silicon
Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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