Don't hang up anymore because you always bitch about it. Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday August 16 2009. and time again for your Gitmo nation
audio publication episode 122. This is no agenda coming to you
from the 17th century canal house crackpot command centre in
the heart of Gitmo nation east in Amsterdam today. I'm Adam
curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak from the firefield hills of California.
Just towards the end with John C. Dvorak. Yeah, I
know I blew it.
And buzzkill Hey, man, that's Santa Cruz fire. That's that's
pretty wicked.
It's pretty typical.
Because Tony, Tony, the ferry pilot, he said he could see it
when he was flying into
Oakland. Oh, yeah. You can see all these fires when you're
flying around. Yeah, he
said it was like a big wall. A big angry wall of fire.
Yeah, they got it staples a problem fire because it was one
of those. You had to let it go for a while before you could do
anything about it.
And I'm so happy that it happened like two weeks after
after I was there because I'm like, you know, I would totally
get blamed for that shit.
You get blamed for when does your aeroplane have a lot of
sparks coming off of it?
No, you know, someone flicked a cigarette out the window of
their car. And that's how it happened. Right? You know,
that's always how these things get started. It was so dry when
we were up there. Just like you know, this. This is just not
good.
Let's say you were in the area. Yeah, yeah, totally notice how
dry it was. Right? Unbelievable. I mean, the worst, though, there
was a worst fire that was in Tracy, because traces were all
the wind generators are. And so and it's all grasslands. And so
when they start when the fire starts there, the wind is
blowing 50 miles an hour, and they just have nothing but
trouble.
Yeah, I mean, it's, it seems like it's impossible to stop.
Impossible. So I'm in the 17th century canal house connection
seems reasonable, of course, not provided by AT and T so we
should be good to go. They won't try to unplug us. And I have I
flew through the night. I did sleep a little bit. So I'm a
little shaky.
So what carrier did you go on? I took KLM,
which I am liking more and more. Certainly more than the Royal
Dutch Airlines. It's a Royal Dutch Airlines F Holmes, I must
say, oh, today by air front. Oh, did they merged? Or what's the
deal?
Yeah, and AirFrance lost, I think half a half a billion
euros in their most recent report.
Well, listen, you know, you're getting the deal.
I gotta tell you, though, first of all, it's about it's almost
it's $2,000 cheaper to fly with KLM. Okay, granted, the you
don't get the nice little Dubay. And in fact, you know, if you
were to look if you would Google virgin upper class, I wonder if
there's a picture because I was thinking, so I'm kind of off my
Virgin Atlantic trip for a number of reasons. One, just the
price was so outrageous, of course, they they had their
fuel, which means that they should actually be able to
provide a much cheaper service, but instead that looks like
they've just kept it the same. I mean, if you call within a month
to book your round trip, they literally charge you upperclass
7000 pounds. 7000 deaths.
$10,000 or more. No, it's more like 12 It's ridiculous. And
$1,000 For what with a round trip anywhere you want. Oh,
time?
No, that's San Francisco London round trip.
$12,000 Yeah, and if you do it short, yeah. More.
Yeah. 7000 pounds. Yeah, that's about 12,000. And if you do it
outside of a month, then it's like, you know, they give you
some break. Like then it's like 5200 pounds. I mean, it's it's
outrageous and KLM you fly business class, they don't have
a first class. And it's 2200 euros. So that's like, you know,
$3,000 but if you can google virgin, upper class, let me see
Diet Coke.
Can I make make a comment about that? Diversion price? Yes,
please. It seems Hi.
Yah. And they're arrogant. I'm looking for a diagram because
the way it's set up in, in virgin upper class, you know,
those diagrams of slave ships and how the slaves were all
packed into into the ship. Yeah, that's exactly what it's like on
Virgin. And the more I thought about that, and the price I'm
like, it's ridiculous that I'm paying to be transported like a
slave with a duvet day for four for $12,000 I wish I could find
one. Virgin class maybe it's seating diagram. It's really
It's eerie. It's just eerie when you see it. I should I should
for the show notes I should get
ya get a copy of it or you should take pictures when you go
away. You're probably not gonna fly him anymore. Here it is.
This is this might be it. Yeah, hold on. Let me just, well,
that's not exactly the depiction I wanted to give you. But when
you see it, you understand what I'm saying, you
may have seen this kind of layout before there's a bunch of
these holy crap, what kind of a link is that? Like, it's like
war and peace. I'm sorry.
Oh, this is the Airbus. Okay, so they now look at the upper
class. And you see, it's just like you're packing like slaves.
Look at the front. Holy crap, you see what I'm saying. So
that, of course, is your own personal suite, you don't get
any more any less, you know, the seat on KLM goes, almost goes
almost vertical. I didn't sleep any worse. And the food is
superior on KLM to Virto. Really far superior.
I'm always amused by the fact that, you know, the food vary so
much from carrier to carrier carrier to carrier, but it also
varies over time. Friend of mine was the consultant for delta for
a while for both the wine and the food. And he was great
because the food for a short period of time on Delta was
absolutely spectacular. But then I went into back and but it was
kind of complicated, they actually had to do more than
just throw it out in front of you. And I'm talking about in
first class. And so I went and talked to the flight attendants
about it. And they went wow, I you know, they make us put pour
this sauce on it, and they were moaning actual work. Yeah, cuz
he had actually do extra work. You know, they had to do some
whenever the flight attendants
are not there to serve you, John, they're there for your
safety, you know?
Yeah, that's what they I know they make that point. It is
true,
though. It is true. We, you know, if you need to get if you
need to evacuate out of that plane, you know, I would say
their training does kick in they if you're saveable they will
save you
and that's a good thing and besides that, they have that in
the food but it's nice to have the food but what was more
interesting was the fact that they had a really amazing
selection of wines. And then you know, they the guy went and he
stayed did the consulting for Singapore for a while to
actually
actually run Virgin Atlantic it's run by Singapore, you know.
Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. So then the food there was really
outstanding for a while now know what he's doing now but he was
doing a magazine or something but the point is that it
fluctuates and it goes from consultant to consultant and
these Did you know these bean counters come in there so this
is too expensive, we should be able to save 50 cents I had to
do the calculation and then next thing you know, the food is crap
again, or like Alaskan, used to brag about their food up and
down the coast and then just all of a sudden, no food,
no food for you. You will get no food, no service for you. What I
like about KLM is they even though there's a crunch even
though they lost half a billion euros still at the end of the
flight. Everybody in business class gets to choose a nice
little canal house. If you ever flown KLM when you get this job
yeah,
they gave you that little bowls from
the hell was that message from someone's someone's Skyping me
coming over the broadcast
not know what's going on. So yeah, it's a nice dose blue
canal house that they have 89 of them.
I have one I have about
I probably have about 40 Although I don't know where
we're most of those are so started the collection a new
and you can make a whole wall of them. You can make it look like
a little hot little.
Yeah, you could play like little Holland. You could
have a little train set around. Oh, so cool.
Anyway, so the food was good selection of wine was good
stewardess is very, very kind. And they have 110 volt in seat
power, which is very nice. I like that.
So in other words, what you're saying is that, you know, this
was an American carry those little those little houses,
little porcelain houses filled with liquor would be the first
to go.
Of course, they're out of here. We're not we'll have none of
those perks. No, and it's nice, you know, in fact, when Mickey
and I flew together, they gave us two. I was like, Oh, you're
special here once you could take another one.
Probably do that once in a while and united with a good diet of
chocolate and that's about it. Whoo.
So anyway, on the aviation tip, two other things one, so my my
aircraft arrived in, in Oakland. And Tony the ferry pilot flew it
all the way over from London. He took about what would have been
five days he took six because the vacuum pump broke somewhere
between Canada and and Vermont. And so I he said, Yeah, I don't
need it. I don't really need it to fly so why don't just get it
repaired. Tony, that's okay. And so this guy is he's almost 70
And I stand corrected. I thought he had done 150 of these
crossings. He has done 550 of these crossings. Wow. He's
retired and this is what he does, who also he flies
aeroplanes to We were from Europe to Alaska, he flies him
down to Brazil anywhere in the world. And I was tracking him on
Google Earth, I put a link on the on my, on my site curry.com.
And so he was going over the Rockies and I'm looking at him,
you know, doing like 16,000 feet for hours on end. And like, you
know, that's, that's pretty impressive. Of course. Turns out
he didn't have any oxygen with him. He was literally flying for
like four hours at 16,000 feet with no oxygen. I'm like, Tony,
dude. He said, Yeah, I did get a little bit of a headache. Yeah,
I'm kidding. That's like, that's like highly not recommended. You
say, Well, it beats flying into the mountain. Yeah. Okay. I'll
take that this guy was full of stories, you you would have
loved talking to him. I took them out for dinner. After he
landed and he just had he had some amazing story. This is one
of these guys like, well, you know, I was flying this, this
beach out of Brazil. And I got struck by lightning and it was a
hole the size of my head and the wing. You know, he's got all
these great stories. Like, he's like, you feel so completely
inadequate as a as an aviator, like, Yeah, okay. Like, that's
pretty exciting. So, so it's in. Good. Yeah, I'm very happy.
I have a little plane to fly around.
It's not just a little plane. It's my escape pod.
It's actually a pretty nice plane. And so it's a 182. Right?
Yeah, retractable
so that's, and it has the long range tank so you can fly for
seven hours. And that's nice. 150 knots.
Sounds like a road trip. Vegas. Here we come.
Yeah, Vegas should only be about under two hours, I think.
Because you know, they're changing the way they've they're
changing the Vegas airport structure. They're supposedly
moving the general aviation down to the middle of nowhere
somewhere. They're, you know, they they're building they're
rebuilding that airport, which has already been rebuilt. But
the thing is, with this economy going the way it is, I think
Vegas is putting itself into a bind. Yeah, they got some
problems. It's not going to get any better. Just thing
with aviation. I was reading that. Let's see, where is it? I
think the UK pumped some money into Airbus, which of course is
the big point of contention between Boeing and iAds the
European aero defence systems I guess it is you know, this is
this is what the world trade organisation is has been working
on for a decade at least you know, it's like it's a fair
competition that Europe you don't want any cheaters? Well,
no, you because these guys fight for every single sale. And let
me see I'm looking for the exact amount anyway. So my guess my
point is now that Europe has pumped a couple 100 million into
into Airbus it's time that Boeing brings one of them down
again. So I wouldn't be flying Airbus if I were you.
So the you ever see one of the they did they I documented this
on some show years and years ago that the actual, the actual sale
of one of these big, like a $50 million aeroplane. Yeah. to a
big company and how they actually have to do it, they
have they have keys.
Now I might have to dispute this because I've seen this happen to
you tell me what your story is?
Well, my story is is that they they guide they hand over the
plane officially when they have a computer confirmation of the
money being sent in there's like this huge, there's all kinds of
security based on getting his money from point A to point B.
So it's in the hands of the company at the time that the
debt the plane is officially turned over?
Well, there's a couple of different steps. So that you
know, the first of all, you have to pay a deposit, then you pay
for certain steps along the assembly line up until the
aircraft is what we call green. So if you ever seen an aircraft
right at the end, just before it rolls out of the factory, it's
actually green. It's like this puke. Puke is green colour. And
that's before that, that's like the primer. And then you get to
do a number of test flights. It's
not really a primer is my impression that it's just to
protect the aluminium shell.
Yeah, well, I know. I don't know if it's protected. You know,
American Airlines has, you know, washed off American No, no, no,
no, no, it stayed stays underneath. Anyway, they just
call it when the aircraft is green. And then there's a number
of test flights that are done. So you pay a certain amount of
money all along the line. And then indeed, there is an
exchange of money and keys and they have special crews that go
over and then they fly these planes back to wherever they're
supposed to go. And I think there's you know, there's
there's all kinds of regulations if they find something they
don't like, I mean, it's a huge I mean, you think you can get a
shitty Monday morning car. Imagine getting an aircraft that
was built on Monday morning you know, it does happen.
So the day I've always flying in and out of Boeing Field in
Washington State, and I always hear about these guys in fact,
I've talked to a couple more Yeah, I'm a pilot for you know,
Boeing. I'm you know, I have to fly for I'm the 777 over to
Japan or do this. And I'm always thinking, Can I get a ride on
this thing? I mean, why not to things empty?
Probably not. It's probably why not there's insurance issue.
What insurance issue?
Insurance is, insurance is fucked John around the world in
general. In fact, that's the whole problem. That's instead of
talking about healthcare and death panels, why don't we just
talk about insurance insurance is supposed to be when disaster
strikes. It's not supposed to be like a layaway plan for your for
your aspirin. When did that happen? When did that change?
When When did the insurance companies become like a
financial year for healthcare instead of for an emergency when
you really need like a, you know, a CAT scan or something
really huge, you know, it's just it's the whole system it blows.
So I can't get a ride on an aeroplane and you think it's
because of insurance?
It totally it's 100% because of insurance. Now look into
it. Okay, don't trust there must be a pilot out there. That one
of these types of pilots listening to the show we got
enough listeners. We almost have somebody in every category
except apparently in grantsmanship we normally hear
about stuff from everybody and then we have heard nothing from
anyone that could get us a grill of course
not because anyone who knows how to get a grant is too busy
getting it right now from grants.gov that getting their
own grants they don't want to help us there's so much money
floating around
ran into one called the Bradley Foundation looks like some sort
of a right wing think tank that throws money around
well, we would gladly take a grant and then
I'm wondering it's a right wing think tanks would give us money.
I don't think anyone is gonna give us any you know, I'm
reading this awesome book, which is based on a true story. I
started reading on the plane called the informant who I think
was made into a movie non performing Hold on a second the
the informer is at the informer the informant. It's about Arthur
Daniels Midland about that huge scandal they had with price
fixing.
What a shocker
in so this was in the in 2009. Late in the late 90s. I guess
you didn't know about this. You've never read this book.
No, I know about it. But I didn't read the book.
It is a page turner. So everything in this book except
for the whistleblowers name. It was an executive at at Arthur
Daniels Midland is true. It's from transcripts 800 hours of
interviews, FBI tapes. Oh my god. This really shows you how
Fox America really is and how it really works. How Warren
Buffett's son you know, calls up and says well, this Senator
needs like 1000 bucks for his you know, for his campaign and
the like, well, we've we're already maxed out we've already
given all we can we'll just give him 1000 We'll pay the $9,000
fine, no problem. And it's just it's all about just it's buying
politicians. And these guys they literally say we love our
competitors we hate the customer because all they were doing was
price fixing with this. This this microbe this germ that
makes cattle fatter shit, let me grab the book.
You have to take notes when you read these books,
the informant, Kurt Eichenwald, and the what's the name of this?
Sounds like it'd be a good book on tape. Actually, I
mean it's a page turner I'm just I'm just ripping through it I'm
almost halfway through it's it's it's only like 500 pages. But
when you read about how they have this microbe and it makes
so you know, they they grow this in the lab and then I'm looking
through the book to find the name of the microbe while we're
at it. And they actually they stole it from the from the
Japanese firm. And then they all you know price fixed but not
just price fixed, but also limit the production of course because
you know, otherwise the market just starts to work on its own
with supply and demand. So they all decide exactly how much
they're going to produce who's going to have what markets and
of course this is fine Chicago company.
Yeah, well, they know how to do business right?
They really do.
So while we're talking about wine and food, we should at
least bring up some of the restaurants we've checked out
because people will always complain that we're not talking
enough about food. And but while we're talking about food we
might as well talk about the tomato blight going on.
We want to talk we're gonna do a review a restaurant first to
talk about tomato blight.
Let's do the restaurant first because I think we're off to a
casual start we don't want to like you know what was it the
last time they get more letters and be able your show so in for
I never hear this stuff. Again. We won't be hearing much than
today. Noodles so what was the restaurant we went toodles
incorporated noodles
oh no that place yeah, I forgot about that place was actually
decent. Nobody ever unless you went through with, with me, me
and Jay we went to it was unmemorable. I can't even
remember the name of it.
Well, you reserved it. I mean, I could look it up on Open Table.
Yeah.
You know, that's kind of bothers someone. I don't remember the
restaurant.
Well, it was memorable for me because I was just like, I'm
just just looking at your wife going like, now I understand it.
There's so many things clicked in place for me that night,
John, because of course, it was the first time ever met your
wife. It's like, okay, now I get it. Now, I
understood, I wonder what you're thinking because she listens to
the show religiously. The only thing she's ever paid any
attention to that I've ever done.
Well, she told me right off if it was the absent Brasserie and
bar on Hazelwood rehab since absent. And the reason why she
listened to the show was she said, I had no idea John is such
an asshole to other people. I thought it was only
she uses that as her line. She's like, like you with the stock
lines
trying to match. So mentally. She came on,
everybody.
It's the truth. And I do. I was sitting across from your
daughter, and you two are going at it. You just back and forth
back and I'm looking at J going like, wow, you want to learn how
to smoke. She's like, No, it was entertaining. Mimi could
certainly sit in in my in my spot and do the show. She is one
of the she's a bigger crackpot than I am.
Well, well, that may be true. But one of the reasons that I
you know, when we came up with the show model for this show was
because of these conversation conversations I'd have with her.
And then one day, it dawned on me. I said to her to myself,
this is just one content. Why don't we just, I mean, I in
fact, you and I have the same relationship now is that we get
together and we're like, really sketchy about actually talking
because
we don't want to blow the show. We don't want to blow all the
good material.
Because it's you know, people don't realise that there's a lot
of people out there, I guess. And I don't think we're the only
ones that actually have content in our conversations that might
be of interest to somebody else. And it's kind of crazy.
It's certainly not interesting to ourselves.
It's kind of crazy not to at least, you know, make it you
know, professionalised and make it a something people can listen
to. But anyway, so the restaurant absent which was
always bliss, did you know I yelped it I did everything and I
thought it was going to be better than it was I thought it
was actually kind of incandescent, I think my the
drinks were good and the wine list was okay, but the food I
thought was just nothing.
The the the cheese or the meat platter we had as an appetiser
that was kind
of the appetisers were good. This place is really a bar where
you get appetisers and then get some you know, something to
drink.
Yeah, or you pick up some salad.
That looks like it's possible. Yeah. Maybe
I had the risotto, which was actually okay.
I don't even know what I had. That's how unmemorable it was.
We had I do know we had the Escar go the snails.
Oh, yeah. Cuz J has never had eschar. Yeah. And they were they
were they were bland. How do you make eschar go bland. There
wasn't enough. garlic and shallots was like bland. eschar
go, you know, it's like, what?
I wish I could find the name of this microbe. Send me off.
Let me get the what was that? So then we went to this place
called noodles something or other?
It was noodle? It was an Oakland.
Yeah, noodle theory.
Which, of course, is a take on string theory, I presume?
I never thought about it. That hit
me the other night. I'm like, Oh, now I understand why it was
called noodle theory. But why else right?
That's a little place around the corner replace you wanted to go
to that was packed. So we didn't go there. And I you know, I
drove past it. And I said, that's kind of a cute little
place. And it was actually was a cute little place of the food
wasn't spectacular, but it's very edible and dirt cheap. And
the thing that impressed me most though, and I think people go
out to eat a lot and have to also be impressed by something
like this. I asked him when that place was open. And they said,
Well, it's been open for two years and I just dropped my jaw
dropped this place. has the look and feel and cleanliness of a
place that was open for like a week.
Yeah, it did look pretty good. And we had that interesting
white wine, which was I called Yeah, I don't know. All right,
here it is. ADM was entering a new era in 1989. Creating the
bio products division. I'm amazed that you didn't know that
John Hughes, you as the chemistry certainly be into
this. No longer would the company just grind and crush
food products. Instead it was veering into biotechnology
feeding dextrose from corn to tiny Mike probes over time these
microbes or bugs, as they were known, converted the sugar into
an amino acid called lysine. Li S I N E. Yeah. As people in the
business like to say the bugs ate dextrose and crap lysine in
animal feed lysine bulked up chickens and pigs, just the
product needed by giant food companies like Tyson and
ConAgra. So that's so that's kind of the whole thing. So they
basically stole this bug from a Japanese company and then they
offered us price fixing and then the Feds get involved. It's it's
fantastic. You read this book, you're like, that's corporate
America for everybody right there. That's how it works. Buy
off your politicians. And screw your customer
you have to do it's always been out the gate. That's new.
Well, this will this of course, was it? Herbert Herbert Hoover
was at Hoover who invented the anti price fixing laws. Herbert
Hoover, Herbert Hoover. Yeah.
I don't know. It's possible. Wait until I finished the book.
I think it was done during the I thought it was done during the
Roosevelt administration or before then I can't believe
Hoover would be responsible.
I got to look into it's just fascinating book The informant,
Kurt eigen eigen Wald eigen Wald interesting thing happening over
here and get mo nation East John that is worth mentioning. Before
we get into the tomatoes, the Dutch royal family sued
Associated Press for making pictures available of them to
the to their press clients. So they're actually there's a
there's a really yes and they and they want to not only forbid
AAP from making pictures available, but they want a
mandatory fine of 25,000 euros each time they put a picture up
and make it available for newspapers or magazines or other
media to grab and get this whole sob story about how it affects
their lives the lives of their children and oh boy when I was
growing up as a prince I never felt so safe because you know
people always watching us I'm like, well, welcome to
celebrityhood dude. Screw that this is they could actually they
could actually win this
what's the precedent where these people take it? Where were the
photos taken?
Like the the Dutch Royal Family Rules part of the world? But so
yeah, they they just don't want pictures of their their family.
Well now I guess he knows what it feels like to have. You know,
people telling them what to do with stuff that should be their
fair use your public domain.
It's a fascinating story to see how this is playing out and of
course the suit was filed in Dutch court. And there Yeah,
here it is a fine of 25,000 euros for each day it refuses to
remove the photos from their database. Can you believe that?
August 21 The ruling my wife and I feel such photos are very
damaging to our family life Willem Alexander said in a
letter read by his lawyer it causes unacceptable pressure on
our children. Oh please.
Maybe these guys want to be partying and that kind of
anonymously? Is that possible?
Well he's known as Prince pills over here. And pills. Pills
pills pls which is as in Pilsner as in beer or
beer like he drinks beer. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. He likes to party and his his wife maximise this hot
Argentinian baby yeah, of course they had to do that they had to
marry the Argentinians because know all that there's a lot of
stuff you know the I think all the the Nazis who were hiding
out in Holland they all get sent off to Argentina. I mean, this
goes back man. These are all these families who are
protecting each other it's all these are all this all bullshit.
Well, we know nothing of such things in the United States.
Let's talk about tomatoes. Because this is something pretty
serious. This comes back to I believe Ug 99, which we were
talking about a couple of weeks ago on this very show, John.
Yeah,
Something's fishy. Something fishy is going on with these
tomatoes. There's a bunch of tomatoes, a blight in the
Northeast. Dez nine depot seems to have jumped from tomatoes for
some unknown reason to potatoes.
Yeah, what's the deal? Have you studied this? Have you looked
into it?
I've just been reading the articles and it's just you know,
pretty straightforward. It seems as though and then of course,
they have a super tomato that is resistant to this.
Let me guess not by any chance triggered with something from
Well, I haven't actually found it's called the they haven't
actually been looking for the connection between a cause it's
been rarely is tomato comes out of Cornell. And Cornell has a
lot of connections to Monsanto, but I've not seen a direct
connection to this resistant tomato, which I'm sure it's
tasteless, but the whole thing is start looking at and you can
read that from that letter that we got from a concerned organic
grower up there in that area. That the concern is that, you
know, they're actually it's almost as though and by the way,
I don't see any reason why they wouldn't do this if they don't
really care. It's almost as though somebody has genetically
modified a fungus. Wait a minute, who could it be and send
it out to kill anything but you know, the kill these you know,
the hot thing going on? Are these old fashioned tomatoes,
these heirloom tomatoes, and they you see them all over?
From the heirloom seeds, right, which are seeds from the 1700s
or whatever.
Yeah, and a lot of these are now being over produced and they're
not very good. I mean, you think that'd be better, but generally
speaking, if you get a tomato that's a little different from
what at some other part of the world is it really is tastier?
And are you gonna get some really good tomatoes from Italy
that are heirloom,
kind of like the swine flu for tomatoes. You know, the late
blight, as it's called, normally doesn't happen until you know,
like, fall and or, you know, getting close to you know, you
got to have damp, windy weather, it's going to be kind of nasty.
Now, what's happening in you know, in summer, this is this is
new, right?
That's what they say, what concerns me I think that, you
know, I think there's a concerted effort to, to kind of
stamp out these kinds of some of these organic food trends and
one of them would be heirloom tomatoes not and and there's
also there's been some evidence that they're trying to keep
people from growing their own infected part of the story talks
about how well probably the problem is these home gardens,
they you know, these people are out of control, they don't do
the right thing. And then
three is actual rules have been put in place now in in the
United Kingdom about organic farming. Yeah, someone's gonna
have to come come by and approve your backyard. Yeah, so here it
is. This is actually an article from March 31 2008. And this is
what I think is related to it, the deadly fungus known as Ug
99, which, I mean, what kind of name is that? I mean, isn't that
like something straight out of a lab? It kills wheat, that has
likely spread to Pakistan from Africa. There's we talked about
this a couple of weeks ago. But deadly fungus is being used by
Monsanto and the US government to spread patented GMO seeds is
the theory here, of course, and it says stem rust so it doesn't
sound like the exact same thing, but it's got to be a derivative.
It's got to be
it's got well there's a lot there's a million of these
things that don't let that get know away a good plants. But
anyway, but I think there's like a concerted effort and I would
put the big egg. You know, even though we have some listeners, I
you know, you guys are wrong. I put big ag in there. I would say
that I think the grocery food chains that don't like dealing
with the fact that people are going to small, you know,
farmers markets and buying their tomatoes there. Or buying
anything there for that matter. I think these things are kind of
a threat. You know, I mean, it's just like, you know, what can we
do? Are we our sales are down and what are we going to people
are going into why are they going to the farmers market and
buying fruit there sometimes at some farmers markets like the
one in San Francisco, for example, the fruit is way
overpriced, but people still buy it. But you go to a typical
farmers market, like there's one near me, that has like some of
the there's a there's a company there's a lot of growers out
there that just send it to the market through farmers markets.
And they'll do you go to 10 Farmers Market, you'll find the
same company selling their fruit, but this does fantastic.
And they'll actually deliver right to your door, they have a
website, you sign up and
generally I've never found that to be as good as going to forest
org and seeing the fruit of the day and see what the you know
which ones
holding it and then feeling it and of course well they also
they have samples of everything. You don't have that in the store
generally. And if you do because you wouldn't buy it you know
your sample like what some of these I had, there was some
peaches recently one of the one of our gourmet you know, ghetto
stores, regular store, get things that you put into it and
it like suck the juice out of your mouth. It was dry and
mealy.
So if we were truly evil, John, and we were, in fact, if we just
were running in parts of the world, I mean, of course what we
do is we come up with this genetic seed, and these
Terminator seeds and all this great stuff that Monsanto makes
and then we release Eugene 99 You know, kind of like swine flu
for crops. And then of course, you get the Bloomberg article
I'm looking at right now August 13. Just last week, Monsanto
Corporation the world's largest seed maker plans to charge as
much as 42% more for their new genetically modified seeds and
next year because of a farmers increased output now they have
Roundup Ready to yield soybeans. Yes, it's Roundup Ready to
Dotto, ladies and gentlemen, that'll be $74 an acre and
Monsanto Rose $1.57 or 1.9% to $84.03 on the New York Stock
Exchange. This shares have gained 19% this year. I mean,
come on, it's so friggin obvious. It's so obvious.
Well, it's too bad. There isn't some evidence that they're like,
you know, responsible for some of the negative stuff that's
happening.
There's certainly evidence that the Terminator Terminator seeds
is evidence of that which, you know, 80,000 farmers have killed
themselves over suicide because they've lost in India Well,
still a lot you know, it's Indians but a lot.
So anyway, it appears to me as though the heirloom tomato is
being targeted. And they're also the commercial guys who do
normal tomatoes that normal lousy tomatoes that don't even
taste like a tomato but are used on like, you know, the
hamburgers that you get at Burger King. You know, because
the tomato apparently you know, flat has a long shelf life It
looks kinda like a tomato even though it's kind of pale.
Against my better judgement. Last Sunday after the show. I
went out and I couldn't help myself for the first time in 10
months. I bought a Big Mac meal and Big Mac Big Mac meal.
So Neil Yeah, so that's the big mac Big Mac wasn't poisonous
enough for you know, I had
to get the genetically modified fries you know, so if they ever
jam this reshot in me, just in case and a nice chocolate
milkshake and I ate it and John I passed out I swear to God I
fuckin passed out I wasn't tired or anything. I just like what? I
just I passed out then. It was like oh my god this thing is
it's putting me off John, I just passed out.
I know I you know, I think I've passed out from one of these
things myself because you would eat one of these things. And
then within an hour you're like so low GI that you pass out you
wake up a half an hour later.
That's a good word. We got to reinstate that low GI low GI ah,
oh, according to
the the Express and the UK milk meat and egg prices could rocket
by 20%. Because of foreign farmers growing more GM crops
expert experts warned. UK animal feed which is made mainly from
soya could quadruple in price within two years of growers in
Brazil and Argentina produce more genetically modified soya
which is banned in Europe. I mean, this is a total takeover
of our food.
You know what's annoying to me is that we're going to have to
go to Europe to eat.
I bought some heirloom seeds by the way I hate I hate to admit
to it. Are you going to plant them? No. Well, that's just in
case. Oh, I see. Remember I've got the plane so in case
something happens I grabbed my heirloom seeds. So out of there
flying low is there shooting that?
I can do 5050 foot above the deck and I'm becoming a
separatist? I don't know what's
coming in that case. Well, I think I already I think we can
still get by I think there's still an opportunity to eat well
in this country. But I think generally speaking the food
supply even though they brag about how safe it is because you
have less people getting food poisoning or whatever. I'm just
not convinced it I mean it's just like you got tasteless food
is genetically modified. God knows what it's doing to you get
all kinds of weird cancers cropping up pain? Oh, yeah.
There's 50 lawsuits implicating Monsanto in cancer lawsuits.
There's all kinds of shit going on. But yeah, of course, it
doesn't it all tie in though, does it all make sense? When you
think about it, we have this horrible hell. I mean, it's one
industry helping another. You know, you've got the big ag
helping out big pharma because of course we're eating craps or
we're getting sick.
Well, by the way, I've got a clip that it has to do with Big
Pharma. Okay. And because it's a record breaker, I'm trying to
find another one. Like it's possible that they're not going
to do very well just drug. But there's one on their set and it
starts with an S. Spiriva. Yeah, this is the old this is the ad.
I think it's remarkable. It's a very unusual ad because it's a
one minute ad. Actually, they actually go to the 32nd mark
before they get into the disclaimer about how it'll give
you nightmares.
It's a record it's a record a new record.
They must be test marketing their their ads, because we know
that it's usually After 15 seconds the disclaimers come in
because the disclaimer is actually what makes you want to
buy the product. Yeah, this
one doesn't apparently hasn't killed anybody yet so they don't
say death may occur.
I'm sorry,
COPD, and I try not to let it slow me down. I go down to the
pool for a swim, get out and dance. Even play a little hide
and seek. I'm breathing better with Purina.
Spiriva is the only once daily inhaled maintenance treatment
for both forms of COPD, which includes chronic bronchitis and
emphysema.
I take it every day keeps my airways open, to help me breathe
better all day long. And it's not a steroid.
Spiriva does not replace fast acting inhalers for sudden
symptoms. Stop taking Spiriva and call your doctor if your
breathing suddenly worsens your throat or tongue swells you get
hives or have vision changes or IP to tell your doctor if you
have glaucoma problems passing urine or in large Boston as
these may worsen whispering also discuss the medicines you take
an eye drops. Side effects may include dry mouth, constipation
and trouble passing urine.
Everyday could be a good day to breathe better.
Ask your doctor if once daily Spiriva is right for you.
So this is another Restless Leg Syndrome, chronic obstructive
pulmonary disease.
Yeah, well includes emphysema, it, apparently is a spray. It's
one of the you know, they always have these inhalers, people that
have these lung conditions. And this is just a new inhaler. But
it gets a one shot you do it once a day and apparently takes
care of you for the whole day. Instead of having to blast
yourself every few hours like with the other stuff you used to
do. Sounds safe to me that
she's doing the backstroke in the pool. And she's, she's
feeling so great. And this came on at the same time. I wish I'd
recorded that there's another non FDA approved drug, which
makes you larger, and if little receipt makes you larger and and
feel sexier or something like that. It's kind of like a Viagra
derivative. And the commercial is just so meant, you know, it's
like, the guy's like, no, I really did. I had the idea of
having fun more often and his wife sitting right next to him,
right? That sounds great. But let me tell you the larger thing
he didn't mind that it's like what is like the penis pump?
Bullshit. You know, there's no drug that's gonna make your dick
bigger. I mean, they
take twice as much.
How would they come up with this stuff?
You know, it's a I think it's a it's a crime that they let a lot
of these things. I remember years ago, when it was either
the FDA or the FTC or somebody busted Campbell's soup for
having a commercial with a hearty meal a hearty man or
wherever that soup was at. They had where they would show it on
the commercial. And you see they've just looked like a bowl
of soup of vegetables. It was just filled and it turns out
they they had dumped a can of soup into a bowl of marbles. In
the marbles lifted all the vegetables after the top, which
I thought was genius. Of course that's great. And you know what,
some people might like their soup that way. So I mean, you
know, I like I like marbles in my soup.
John, we got a panic we have a real panic on our hands. Leading
us food groups, Hershey bars and Krispy Kreme Doughnuts have
warned the Obama administration that country could run out of
sugar and jobs could be lost. This is this is this is a major
major problem for everyone in America who was fat. The food
producers which include Kraft and General Mills gave the
warning in a letter to the Obama administration they claimed that
unless import quotas are increased, that could be a
severe shortage shortage of sugar used in chocolate bars,
breakfast cereals, cookies, chewing gum, and 1000s of other
nutritious products.
Well, you know what I'm on their side. And you know why this
sugar thing is getting these games making these guys crazy
because what's happened is that they have basically they
essentially have kind of blocked sugar from coming to countries
in favour of high fructose corn syrup
of course, which is what Arthur Daniels Midland corporation
makes
and so these guys are trying to although you mock them these
guys are trying to draw attention to the fact that we
need to actually sugar because with chocolate in particular,
high fructose corn syrup if used as the sweetening agent
allow the chocolate to set up but it also kills you it's like
bad well
besides killing you, but the fact is chocolate you can't make
a chocolate bar with it because this stuff stays as goo
Okay, well I feel real bad about that. I just don't eat
chocolate. But to me it seems like the this is probably
exactly what I'm reading about. This is you know political
moves, where politicians are blocking the sugar imports so
that this high fructose high fructose corn syrup which is
manufactured in the good old USA and the Illinois by one of the
biggest ones Arthur Daniels Midland Corporation, right
in a refinery. Yeah. Oh,
yeah, it's Oh, it's nasty. In a refinery. Yeah. It's like, oh,
it's like oil production.
Yeah, they might as well have a pump it you know, when you when
you drive out to fill your gas tank, have a pump of this stuff
and you can pump up a gallon for that.
You just put it right straight into the IV right into your
arteries. That's what you should really do.
Well, so let me finish my tail. Because someone's gonna say when
I had him interrupted you again. Yeah, I did. Anyway, so the so
I've been, you know, so I've noticed a couple of things
recently for these. Why did they they gave Campbell's such a bad
time, but they still let leave these burger companies, because
you mentioned the burger to advertise showing a really
delicious looking burger with a big thick slice of tomato and
you buy these things and they're just flat and gooey. And they
did you can't see that tomato. You took a photo of it. I mean,
I disagree. No, I disagree. Because I did examine my Big Mac
and I my Big Mac meal. I took it home with me. So it had some you
know, had a chance to kind of like,
stink up the apartment. Oh, yeah, totally.
But it didn't you know, because of course it's all it's all GM
shit. The tomatoes were nice and tall. The lettuce was nice and
crispy. The bun was nice and rounded. It was not as shitty as
look and burger because it's not real food. It's basically
chemicals in which which knocked me out, you know, put me in a
comatose state. I think they've gotten beyond that if the food
you eat, you know, when the food you eat actually looks like the
way it's advertised. That's a good clue. That's when you
shouldn't be eating it.
Okay, well, you and I differ on that one.
Well, I only because I just had one and I examined it before I
ate it. And I know what it
was gonna look like the photo on the advertisements, I can assure
you Well,
yeah. Right. Like the car in the ad is the same one you get. But
you know, there's got to be some there's got to be something in
there because you also you can't it's like you take a bite, you
know, like, oh, I need more. I need more. I need more. I just
gotta eat this whole thing.
Pretzels at a bar is very salty. And it's got a lot of fat
content in his head. It's you know, it's pretty probably
pretty tasty. Generally speaking to anybody.
It was like porn for my stomach.
Don't know, nothing you can do about it. And that stuff
spreading all over the world. That's the kind of the bad news.
I mean, when I see when I saw the first McDonald's show up in
the sham Sally's a in Paris. I thought I knew the French were
doomed.
Although they apparently France and Germany came out of the
recession.
Yeah, how's that work?
Accounting. EBIT? Da isn't really out of recession. It's an
it's a gap or an EBIT, da thing? I don't know. So yeah, they had
positive growth. No, for each talking
with Horowitz about this, but there's a there's a chart that's
going around showing that money. It's not the money supply, per
se, but it's the amount of actual species and other words,
the coinage and the bills in the market. And it just had this
huge spike in the fact that you can't get a loan as ridiculous
considering how much money apparently has been shoved into
the system on the sly.
So you mean the actual actual paper in the marketplace? or
Yes. In other words, they cranked up the presses. No
kidding. This is a chart from the St. Louis Federal Reserve
Bank. I've
seen this chart. Yeah, there's a couple. I've seen a couple of
these. Yeah,
it's just like that it added added, Whoa, yeah,
boom, and it flies. Well. So this is, there is a point where
and I think this is just to kind of bring it back to the
discussion du jour, which of course is Obamacare. There is a
point where you have to watch out that no matter what the
government is providing, whether it's health care, or Social
Security, whatever it is, if the money supply, you know, is
diluted so incredibly, because of the amount of paper being
printed or digits put being put into the spreadsheet. If we get
superduper inflation. Well, yeah, then then we're gonna have
to make some tough decisions, as we call it, you know, I think is
a real valid point there that that's the danger of the
government running health care.
Well, you know, I actually have Yeah, I have some thoughts on
this extra but the printing press is going crazy. Well, I'm
not necessarily against it. Mainly because it's there's no
evidence that we're getting its Creek causing inflation. I think
maybe we just need this money. Might it because the whole idea
of money is a phoney thing. I mean, you just value your gold
but gold is just as fake as in terms of it's like why is it
make a difference? If because just an exchange thing. I want
to buy a something from you. So you want to sell to me, I could
just exchange my goods and services for your goods and
services in a barter sense. But to expedite it, I use this dis
representative value, which in this case might be gold.
You can't print up a bunch of gold. That's kind of the point
is it? I know,
but you can't print it up. But in 1849, when they discovered
gold, it was essentially the same thing. They were, it wasn't
done by the government. But it was but all of a sudden, all
this extra paper as it were, in the form of gold hit the market
to the tune of $3 trillion dollars, which is today's
equivalent of 30 trillion. Sure,
sure. But yeah, so I agree. But it's a depression. It's no
longer 1849. You know, so a lot of the world's gold is pretty
much known. You know, we know where it's not it's not in
Britain, seeing as Gordon Brown sold it all at the bottom of the
market first, like 200 $200 An ounce douche?
Well, I think the most of it's in Dubai with it gets turned
into chains. Right, so what do we do? Are we going to talk
about the health care thing, this show or the next one?
Because I got a couple of clips that are kind of tricky, but
whatever. Let's go over some of these clips I've got
well, I guess there's your answer. Let's do some of it now.
Yeah, by the way. So this show streaming to you live from the
17th century canal house and get my nation east on Thursday. We
will be doing a show but I'm not going to restreaming it live
because I will be on pretty much a deserted island using solar
energy to power everything. Because it literally is no Nope,
there's there's three G on the island, but there's no power
where I am
three G. What does that mean?
He probably could upload but I don't want to risk a stream. So
even during my vacation, we will still bring you a show. Can I
can I guilt you with that? Perhaps? Well, let's
go take a look at the scripts. There's a there's a let's do
some real news.
Oh, well, I'm glad you suggested. And now
play they Kate clip.
Oh boy. Do you mean Kate is eight? Yeah.
Now we're hearing from him that he had started up a relationship
in May with this young woman, Hailey Glassman, 22 years old.
Were
you shocked at that level?
Are you trying? What are you trying to do to meet John? Well,
what is the point of this? I'll listen to it. But I have little
long, short for you have little patience
that he started seeing her in May.
You know, I was shocked. But it's those things to be very
honest. That's his life. And they don't affect me directly at
this point.
Sounds like it does to me. Why? Okay, so this is this thing is,
this is the today's show. This is real news. This is the
today's show. So they're playing, they have that
interview with this woman who is a dingbat. And guys, oh, it's
like important that people know this crap. So then so I'm
listening to the Sunday morning. You know, political news shows
as a bunch of them meet the meet. So they're harping so that
CNN is devoting it's all out of all the things going on in the
world. CNN is like devoting like god knows how long with a bunch
of analysis of this including the including this particular
clip and then I want you to play I want you to play the rationale
cuz this is some guy who's who's a meat critic, who's explaining
why this is so important,
or our result from our viewers mind. And why does this Warren
time on The Today Show, which is a very fine news, probably
that's a nice high road sounding argument for Sunday morning TV.
Listen, the audience, American people care idiots are about
these characters. Now. That's not enough, just that they care
about him. But here's what's going on with Kate Gosselin, at
least. People are judging their own lives. They're judging
themselves as parents, they're judging themselves as wives.
They're judging themselves as families against her. And that's
really important look at she is the most talked about the most
discussed representation or image of motherhood on American
television, think back to the 50s with Barbara Billingsley
from Leave It to Beaver and all those so he
basically just explained what reality television is all about.
Of course, it's about looking at yourself in the mirror. That's
why it's called Reality television. I mean, da,
but it's just as fake as Barbara Billingsley. That's what he
doesn't say. Of course, it's
fake. It's all it's all put into scene. It's all set up in there
probably not even separated.
Well, this is what bothers me the most is just like with a
with a drama, or sitcom, like Leave It to Beaver scripted
drama, or something like that you at least you can pull back
from it and you know, it's a scripted thing and uh, you know
this is bowl you know there nobody lives like this and you
don't expect to be comparing yourself on any real basis when
you're making it look as though it's real and it's something to
compare yourself to when it's still the same fake bullshit. I
mean, this is like, you know this that's why they that's why
Burnett always insists on calling it calling it unscripted
drama. Because it was you know, it wasn't scripted, but it was a
drama. It was fake. And it does start to come up with this kind
of rationale like this guy did is I find it extremely
offensive. Oh, John,
this is? Yes, of course, the whole thing television is, is
offensive. And when I was growing up when I was six or
seven years old, doctors recommended and my mom would not
let me watch more than one hour of television a week. Because it
would rot your brain. Do you remember those days? Yeah. You
know, it was like,
right, your brain? That was the old theory. Yeah,
don't sit. Right, your dad's True. True. I will start
watching John and Kate makes eight when Kate says this,
because
it will not put seniors in a position of being put to death
by their government
that I will watch. And by the way, C span is real reality
television. And it's highly entertaining. And I watched it
all day long. I love it.
Yeah, absolutely. A lot of people will disagree with the
entertainment value. It's
so entertaining. It's just like, I can't believe this is
happening. Yeah, some
of the stuff. Well, yeah, I actually listen to C span too
much. And I think it rots your brain tube in it kind of a
different way. So meanwhile, I got another clip here. That's
kind of funny play time. This, you're gonna put the clip you're
gonna play as time Times reporter after I set it up. So
apparently, some guy died in Berkeley who used to chronicle
that street life. And they went on and they put together a
calendar of all these people who used to live out in the street
and or still do. And they're basically you know, bums, not
homeless or bums. There's a difference. My hand, sorry. And
this guy. I this is just a small clip from the longer piece but
it just cracked me up when I heard what he used to do for a
living guard. Cawthorne
on the streets for more than 30 years, I was once a reporter for
the New York Times. You know, I was normal for 35 years. And
then I got bored before Hawthorne and others who live
outdoors with all their possessions being in the
calendar was a point of pride.
So I got bored. So said New York Times. I just want to remind the
two or three New York Times people that listen to the show
that don't let this happen to you. I just got the biggest kick
out of this guy used to be a reporter for the New York Times
that guy's like he's like pushing a cart.
I got bored.
He got bored. Yeah, he
just got bored. I get it.
Okay, yeah. Anything else? Well, I want to go through the
contributors because we have to we had complained bitterly on
the last show about our lack
of before you do that before. Let me get into my story of the
week. Okay. Because this is I don't know if you saw this. It
was I think someone was carried live on the news. They had this
this guy and he was like, they were there was a standoff out in
the in Los Angeles outside the federal building. He was in his
Volkswagen Beetle. And they first they tear gas and then
they tased him to get him out because he had threatened to
blow up the White House.
From Los Angeles. Yeah. Did you see any of that? Was he going to
blow it up from Los Angeles? How was that going to work?
Well, so of course that's the cover right? The guy's name is
Joseph mushy. Actually, you
don't have any of this interruption. Yeah. kitchenette.
His full
name is Joseph mushy bar he's actually one of Israel's top bio
scientists. So this is the guy who the real news media says oh,
he was trying to blow up the White House. It's like a serious
He's probably in the bio weaponry actually.
Now this falls on the heels of all these these we haven't
gotten into this story, which we will do in the next few weeks,
I'm sure which is all these microbiologist that are
disappearing and getting killed.
Well, so this may have something to do with that because
apparently what this guy was doing, he was surveying the the
you know the clinics that are happening out there in LA Have
you have you heard about this the remote area medical
volunteer Corporation?
Yeah, their effect this started in the deep south actually this
was a trend they would they discovered an Appalachian I
guess it's not the Deep South and in the Appalachians, I think
that they could do these clinics. and people would come
from all over the place. And because you know, they couldn't
get any health care any other way. And so now it's become kind
of a trend to pop up all over, you know, here and there.
Well is I don't this is I believe this is the first time
ever in the United States that these guys have done this. And
it was I'm looking at Reuters. It marks the first time in Rm
which is what they call it remote area, medical medical
volunteer Corporation in their 25 years that has gone to a
major US metropolitan area. Okay, you're right. So a major
US metropolitan area. So perhaps it was happening in the in the
appendix in the sticks. So I understand that, that what is
happening, and the reason why this all of a sudden is taking
place is that they're actually testing the swine flu vaccine on
some of these people. And this guy, this microbiologist, he was
auditing or observing what was going on, and he caught on to
what they were doing. And that's why, you know, of course, the
guy will suicide himself. That's why they like, Oh, this guy is
trying to blow up the White House. He's threatening and they
you know, and so he was trying to get to the basically to the
to the Israeli embassy, which is right around the corner from the
from the federal building, but he didn't make it. And so they
nailed him.
It sounds like a movie sounds like a cheap movie.
Yeah, but this shit. I think, I think I have to believe it,
John, I mean, this is
this is what did he get the word out that that's what he was
doing? Did he talk to somebody on the phone or send some
documents? Yeah, well, you know about
this letter that was sent from shit on his dad's fucking
webpage with a Lucky seven on it. The senior neurologists who
sent this, this letter about the GUI aim bar syndrome and that,
you know, 25 people have already died from the vaccination and so
they're trying to rile rile up some attention.
key I think is from the adjuvants, even though our
friends that do all these virology shows that were to
boneheads full of crap.
We weren't going to talk about those guys.
I'm just saying I didn't say who they were. I'm just saying
they're out there. Those guys are bronies. Yeah, well, there's
a lot of bronies out there, and we finished the story. It's
quite interesting.
Yeah. So this is from wolves from the Daily Mail. So of
course, you know, take it to take it with whatever you want a
warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve
disease has been sent by the government to senior
neurologists in a confidential letter. The letter from the
Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees
public health has been leaked to the Mail on Sunday. leadings
demands to know why the information has not been given
to the public before the vaccination of millions of
people, including children begins.
And this is interesting, by the way, I want to interrupt you
because I live in it well, well, they're they're not in town
right now. I live next door to two neurologists. I am going to
when they get back into town, I'm going to discuss this in
detail with them. I'll record some clips.
Well, the letter was sent to about 600 neurologists on July
29. And the letter says they must be alert for an increase in
the brain disorder known as Guillain Barre Syndrome GBS
which could be triggered by the adjuvants in the vaccine. Da da
I mean, you could get this news right here on Noah Joe let's
let's get back to this poor guy that they die. How did they show
him how did he meet his untimely death?
Well, he's not dead yet. Oh, no, he's not dead. No, but they took
him away.
Oh, well, he's dead dead. Suicide
is pretty Yeah, he will be dead. But but it's just it's
interesting to say you know to see that
put him in supermax in Colorado then you'll never hear from him
again.
Or you'll never hear from him but just interesting to see the
the headline you know, this here, let me get you the let me
get the link to the story. dramatic moment man whose
dramatic moment man who threatened to blow up the White
House is tasered by police police after an eight hour
standoff. And this this poor guy just trying to get to the
Israeli embassy to you know, because he saw totally what they
were doing at the yes was the Civic Centre or something in Los
Angeles. Look at this, you just got judicata look at these
pictures. It's amazing like this guy. I mean, they literally
treat him like he was gonna blow up the White House but I mean,
this is bullshit. The guys in Los Angeles Okay, not exactly
where the White House is. In fact, you couldn't be much
further from the White House. They got robotic. Think I'd like
tanks and shit. I'll get
tanks like that. They got their gas in the crap by this guy.
They got him blocked. In I feel sorry for the cars next to him.
So he's a biomedical expert. So why do they have to Taser him?
Because so he can't talk. So like all these cameras, the
world media is looking at the guy, and they don't want him to
talk. So they tasered him this tasering is out of control to
Jimin is the Taser you for anything these days?
Yeah, I know we blogged about the fact that a lot of people
were very concerned about over tasering the public you know,
including older women
while they deserve it. lags, see okay. Here's this guy's bio.
This guy's a serious, serious dude.
So this is my Moshe Bard, Joseph. Yeah,
Joseph. So of course, they only call them Joseph Marshy. In, in
the story.
Looks like his first name is Moshe. If he asked me, maybe I
could do probably harder to look him up. That would be confusing
his name.
But I thought this was pretty interesting. So again, the story
goes, that he was auditing and observing the remote area
medical volunteer corporation who all of a sudden are
conducting a clinic quote clinic in the United States, if anyone
says come down to the clinic don't go. Kind of like that
would make sense.
Yeah. So he says, yeah, it is a test. Of course. We've always
done the public. I mean, they've tested LSD on the public, they
sprayed, you know, weird toxins in subway systems to see what
happens. They've, you know, the military has been essentially a
test tube for all kinds of weird stuff. We feel so sorry for
these guys. And nobody seems to really care. And that's
another thing I would have to say that all these suicides
we're seeing of military men, predominantly men, I believe, I
don't think there's many women in the military who are
committing suicide. I mean, it's like 40 a month. Now. Is it
really suicide? Is it is it may be some shit that's been tested
on them? And they just say, Oh, that was a suicide. Could it be?
Maybe they're working for Blackwater slash Z, and they
want to blow the whistle and they get killed? I mean, come
on. Can't all just be everyone's going crazy.
got somebody that'll eventually I mean, you have to kind of have
no idea. I mean, it's hard to tell it, it seems like a high
number. It's a little higher than other events. So that's the
kind of stuff we cover on the show. Now was talking about
saying yes, to lead into our mentioning people who've
contributed over the last week, especially after the miserable
few early days of the week. That bad home. It's okay, now we're
back to normal. But, you know, we didn't get any nights. But we
do have a couple of new people that are kind of, you know, a
lot of people are doing that night. The language programming.
Yeah, good. John trainer, Wilmington. Delaware is one of
them. He they just can't do their own accounting. He's in
for 50. This week, Jan. And then we got some international for
the first time and above at least a month, we got a whole
bunch of international contributors. Oh, nice. So we
must have done something in the last show. Although I don't. I
think it's mostly about it's all about Vivec. Right. Yeah. I
don't know why the international guys are interested in that. But
Yan Wilkins, or Jan, but
which sounds he sounds Dutch.
He's from Spangler, Sweden for Swedish contributor $50 Andrew
harms. From great bit Ben, Kansas gave us 51 For some
reason, curious has been the least one person this was give
us 49 Because he didn't obviously one his name mentioned
probably a Democrat and
talk about me, man. I'll give you 40 bucks just don't get for
about me. I don't want my name. I don't want my name on
the show. 4995. Then we got Tom Diggle will give us 70 And he's
from mag hole. Mercy side UK.
All right. Merseyside in the house.
Yeah, John Matthews, who gave us 50. Before he's on that another
plan. He wanted to say that he's not from Parts Unknown. He's an
Australian living in North Carolina. But he never didn't
know address comes up on him is which is interesting must mean
something. And then we have a Belgian guy from it's lep. Er
leper Belgium. I don't know, Leaper How do you pronounce it?
I have no idea.
Lep you are. Dr. Labour
thinks Oh, pretty sure we'll give it $77.70 Which matches and
some other people give us 777 I think we might Jinda item I'm
not sure what that means, but Sam Muir Samuel Evander plunk,
found the plunk van der plunk down we got it. We got we did
get a Netherlands got Bart. And this is Groot
Carrick throat gag. Big church, big church, you you know, in
the, you know, in the Netherlands, when Napoleon took
over, everyone had to register. So, and of course the Dutch as
the Dutch are there were like, fuck that guy. You were just
gonna come up with some phoney names. So you have the craziest
names, you know, so it's all like Johnson is John's son, you
know, so they just made up some shit. And there's some really
really weird names so to say, you know, throat care could be
big church. So someone lived near the big church or maybe he
rang the bell and the big church, but there's some pretty
funky ones like, you know, flat ass and stuff like that. Yeah,
that's some really funny names. I should do a whole funny name
show funny and Nepali. We should
do that. You're right. The Dutch have the weirdest name. So um,
we're just like, what is that? It's hard to believe a family
went back that far with that name.
Or annoyed for doc which is never thought never thought it
would be. You know, just just crazy crazy names.
Then we got an i pronunciation slightly eludes me but I think
is McCoy. Let, let let Schinsky Ma Ma Si O Laj Lewinsky lac z y
en ski from Warsaw? Who gave us $146.31? Which is obviously you
referenced 146 31
No, that's women. That's got to be a house resolution.
Maybe but he's in Warsaw. So that's true. How about the guy
who got Alexander Cody? Key Atka who gave us 100 bucks and I'm
thinking where's he from? Where do you think? What's his name
again? Alexandre Cody. Katka. It's KIETY ka. Oh, he's
from Austin.
He's from St. James, New York. And I told you,
so obviously it would be something like that.
Chris Johnson Edmonds, Washington. 75 bucks all over.
Here's another interesting one all over younger, J U N. G from
Berlin. Johnny green is also a Greek contributing, he's gonna
build up for the 1000 Lars Sorensen. From has Lev Denmark.
It's amazing group this week. It's a great group. David
Roma's, in from Calgary $120. That was a big deal. John
Terada, which I think we did last week from Pasadena and Adam
Carolla from Bensenville Illinois, I want to thank
everybody for, for contributing. And in anyone who wants to get
in on this, we need every week to get all these people, which
is like you're
forgetting one of the most important ones, which was me
collage. Like sinskey who donated $146.31? Oh, that's not
that you just mentioned him. But you forgot to mention that he
gave us the whole he gave us the clue. And I guessed it. Remember
that? biothreat? He said that equals 421? Point 95. Polish
zloty.
All right, right. He did send us a note. And
he said, The reason I gave you this amount is because I'll be
coming to New York in November to run the marathon. So do you
know why my donation is $146.31? Of course it said, Well, that's
obvious, because the marathon is 42.195 kilometres.
And I was right. Yeah, yeah. Anyone could guess that. Except
you? Yeah, I would have normally done this a lot. These
calculation in my head, realise it's exactly the same as some
MARATHON REFERENCE and boom, but but I, you know, they keep
changing the exchange rate. So these calculations don't work
out for me. Anyway, if anybody wants to help us, we'd
appreciate it. No agenda. show.com no agenda show.com.
There should be some links there and also divorce.org/in. A, we
tend to get nothing after our Sunday show. It's kind of
distressing. And then I have to like really beg for money that
horribly, you got upon Thursdays and I tried to avoid, I'm hoping
we get more like a consistent I mean, people have to realise
that this is, you know, a couple hours a week, three hours or
weeks, that they're getting good information. They're finding out
cool stuff, just something to talk about over the cocktail
hour and we don't want to get sponsors because the show would
be ruined. And I need your help.
And I'd like to take a little bit of our our kitty there,
John, I'd like to make it available for anyone who lives
in the Washington DC area or is going to be in the DC area this
week, because on the 19th the 20 And the 21st there is an
international swine flu Conference, which takes place at
the high end Regency that's on that Capitol Hill. And I'm
looking for it. I'm sure it's not cheap. It's yeah. 100 Wait.
What is the full payment? It is conference plus two workshops.
$2,785. And I think it will be well worth it. If someone wants
to register to go and report back I have the
rule. We should also ask if anybody's actually going to it
already.
Well, let me just tell you what the because I have the PDF here,
John of what's going to go on at this particular swine flu
conference. This is the International swine flu
conference. So there's the breakout sessions, breakout
session number one mass fatality management planning, which helps
you develop and maintain plans, procedures, programmes and
systems activate for fatality management operations, conduct
morgue operations, and conduct final disposition. Then we have
a breakout session number two psychological issues the
public's distress of exposure and safety, public breakdown,
breakdown of public services and utilities and unwillingness to
follow government orders. Then we have breakout session number
three business continuity planning, breakout session for
continuity of operations and continuity of government
planning. When the h one n one flu pandemic unfolds in two or
three successive waves in the calendar year, how do we keep
government rollin? And of course, we have breakout session
number five, which is emergency management services. It just
goes on and on.
Yeah, we need the binder.
Yeah, that would be worth it. That would be well worth it. But
you know, maybe just get some video. And I think we should you
know, we can transfer the money to your PayPal account. Please,
someone volunteer if you're not already going? I would really
like to know about this. Because this me when I see. Conducting
morgue operations and fatality management, tactical operations,
you know, you got to think someone's planning something.
Yeah, we need the binder. So would you binder with all the
good stuff in it?
Yes. With schematics
yet, send some email to us. And we'll vet somebody to go with
the thing. And if you are going already, and I'm sure there's
somebody let us know. And then we'll talk.
I think it'll be well worth the investment for us, John to send
someone. By the way, if you are, if you work in public health,
military, law enforcement or academia, it's only $1,975. Now
that's the conference plus two workshops. So you can only
choose to and of course the top of my list would be would be the
mass fatality management planning. That's the one I want
you to go to. Topics include deliver your vaccine and
antiviral medic medication. The world is sick. So we'll continue
this on Thursday.
And yeah, I got some Sebelius stuff I want to talk about, Oh,
good.
Coming to you from the 17th century canal house and get my
nation East Amsterdam, the Netherlands. I'm Adam curry.
And from the burning raging inferno, known in Silicon
Valley, and John C. Dvorak will talk to
you again on Thursday, hopefully with news from the International
swine flu conference right here on no agenda