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A lot of dynamic data will be
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more powerful website on Drupal
soon. Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's August 13 2009. This is
your gizmo nation audio

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publication episode 121. This is
no agenda coming to you from the

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crackpot command centre embedded
in the minimum security

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containment cell in the heart of
Gitmo nation, West San

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Francisco, California. I'm your
chief crackpot officer Adam

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curry.

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And here in Northern Silicon
Valley, sitting here with a

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glass of pure lemon juice. I'm
John C. Dvorak, Raglan buzzkill,

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the

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first complete opener in three
shows. Oh, we're getting there.

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I'm no longer stumbling and
bumbling.

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I blew the last one to remember
it was just on John Dvorak. Oh,

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yeah,

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we all remember John. Oh, yeah,

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I'm sure we all remember. Yes.

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Hey, good morning to you.

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Yes, it's actually looks like it
might be a nice day today. In

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San Francisco, I didn't see any
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supposed to see. Yeah, it was

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cloudy all around the world. Of
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see it from the city because
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and we had fog and light
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that the UK had cloudy skies.
The continent had cloudy skies.

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I'm just not reading. I don't
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You know, I could see stars last
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never saw any meteors. You
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to be out in the middle of
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in the high desert.

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Yeah, that's my next plan. Not a
bad idea. Be out there

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somewhere. Ah, John, we got a
lot to talk about today.

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Actually a lot and not a lot.
You wrote a piece yesterday. Was

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it yesterday, the day before?
Yesterday? Was it yesterday?

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Seems like we're

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like weeks ago about and this
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the Federally appointed chief
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United States of America, which
I think the the impetus for for

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the for the peace was based upon
last week's show where we wound

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up talking about this guy for a
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end of the show.

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Yeah, well, the one we had you
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last week. We didn't play

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Oh, I've I've taken your two
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friend. Yes. Well,

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again, let's play that clip that
I have a couple clips there.

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That clip that triggered my
looking into the guy.

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See, I had it all set up
differently.

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I didn't want it no agenda show.

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I've got my own agenda, not your
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know I can I can play. I can
play what you were talking

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about. I think this was this was
the clip you were referring to?

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Actually, was that the one with
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the one? Yeah, yeah, yes. Is it?
I think so.

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Well, from my perspective, of
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huge I should mention, this is
from the FCC broadband panel,

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which John and I both by
coincidence, I guess or not.

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We're watching separately,

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divine intervention, indeed.

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And I had to pull a couple of
clips from this because the CIO

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of the United States is just He
talks like, Huh, you just sit

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there go like what? And wait
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really responsible for

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which impact I would say on the
IT dashboard, where it's

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actually moving the way the
federal government actually

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spends money. And we're making
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perspective based on real time
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the public itself. And the
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around data. So on the data
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recognise is that we don't
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going to lead to better
analysis. So what we're doing is

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we're trying to release as much
data as possible, with the

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exception of course of
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classified or sensitive in
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In other words, nothing. Yeah,
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finding a lot of innovation
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people are spotting patterns
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mean, just fly on time that us
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my favourite fly on time.us.
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our God looking at

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the airlines. We have people
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and have you ever come up to
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coming up to us. You know, I'd
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I come to you and say something?

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This is fascinating. We never
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always displayed to people.

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I love this. We never thought
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late. I'm going to change my
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the seat on our phone for
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on that. But more importantly, I
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changed, I have to change my
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level in the District of
Columbia, for example, what

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exists and where you're
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you can pull up an application,
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Metro Station is near you.

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It's unbelievable. And you can
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without having to look at the
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metro station this way. And when
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who needs a schedule, both
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could also see on the same app,
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standing. And as you look at the
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the data got updated. I'm moving
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Listen, again, that's fantastic,

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same app, crime near where
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move, the data gets updated. You
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the group. Yeah, that's the
group by the way. Not me and

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Adam. It's a group global douche
a that the closest bars and

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restaurants and

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which, by the way, is where
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and restaurants, you can

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make some really interesting
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I need to change my behaviour,
let me rewind that I need to

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make some interesting decisions
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data. And

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so you can make some really
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real time information that you
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here is if we could create a
national grid around information

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that it will influence,

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why didn't he add the sex
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mean, then you can really,
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nearest metro station that has
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sex offenders. I mean, that
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he must have forgotten

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the way we act in terms of
moving as towards making better

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decisions, because we have
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the government has made a
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secret, but make it public. When
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secret? Secret bar data about
the bars? All right. So the the

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reason why we've jumped all over
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follow on to this $18 million
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And and you know, what, if there
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maybe we wouldn't even be having
this discussion. Because we, of

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course, looked at all the
documents and everything's been

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redacted pages and pages of
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tronics have been blacked out.
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the project, what the process
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the type of data that is not
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available. Because you know,
that doesn't involve bars and

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crime, but actually, it probably
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not the redacted the crime for
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contract. And so when you start
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there's a couple of guys we
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Technology Officer, you just got
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that's basically what your
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looked at his claims of
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really why he is not only why
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selected as the Chief
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makes him the best of the best.

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Yeah, which is nothing, there's
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And then the fact that he's
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people, and we'll talk about
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just, it's mind boggling to me.
I mean, this is a guy who's

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essentially some you all for all
practical purposes, a kid who

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was a, you know, just out of
school for all, you know, he's

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very young. He's a young guy who
did a lot of campaigning

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apparently, and he mixed it up
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somebody picked him for one job.
And he, you know, they back went

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back and forth him and Chopra,
the other one and the technology

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officer of the day. And I
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he has, he has a master's he has
he claims to have a degree in

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psychology and biology and
there's no reference to biology

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in any of his transcripts, or to
any of his records. His degree

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is in psychology. It took him
six years to get it they call

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him a whiz kid. I'm wondering
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whiz kid to get a degree in
psychology which is a little

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kind of a you know, one of those
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zoology, yet XO or zoo ology,
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of caught me off guard, then we
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degree, which we did find but it
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of Maryland College Park. It was
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considered the kind of the
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University of Phoenix. Yeah, we
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And so He does have a degree in
Information Technology, whatever

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that is. But it's one of those,
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not from Harvard. I mean, his
partner a nice Chopra has better

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chops when it comes to his
academic background, but he's

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basically a bureaucrat. And
anyway, so I so we started

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looking into this. And then the
thing that really got me was he

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was the CEO of this Creo star
company. He apparently worked

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for some other company that had
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they sold EXO star, I think,
wasn't it? Yeah. And it's so

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they sold to some of the or no,
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for which was sold to EXO star,
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And there's no evidence, in
fact, somebody just sent me a

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note today showing that it was
like the company basically

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folded because he failed to pay
some fees, and he didn't really

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care. And that's actually on
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Now. Wait, let me finish. Here's
the thing that bugs me, he was

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keep calling himself the CEO of
this company. And if you're

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going to start calling yourself
the CEO of a one man company,

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where you and your wife, I think
it's a little misleading. And

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this is the problem that we're
having in this country today is

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the honesty factor. And if
anybody wants to defend somebody

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who wants to call themselves to
CEO over and over and all their

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bios, and that's one of their,
you know, one of their stepping

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stones to this job, this great
CEO position, I'm the CEO,

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welcome, CEO. I'm coming in. And
when you're just one guy, in a

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sole proprietorship, that's
really got no business. Why are

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you calling yourself the CEO
unless you're trying to and I

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want to point this out the
people like Tim O'Reilly, who

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think, thinks that this Qudra
guy is the greatest guy and

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since sliced bread, Hey, Tim,
it's called being misleading.

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He's misleading his entire bio,
his background, the stuff that

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he says on these on these these
panels, makes it sound like he's

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no something he's missing. This
is all part of a campaign to

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mislead the public is no
different than the banks saying

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we're all free lifetime
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And we're no ATM fees.

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Yeah, no ATM fees, boom, where's
the three double whammy taking

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three bucks out? I mean, this
kind of thing is unacceptable.

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We're sick of it. And this guy
is just another example. And why

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would anybody defend him.

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And what gets me is biology
degree. So what gets me is, is

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the actual need for a C I O,
because this is actually a title

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that cropped up in the mid to
late 90s. As we had the.com,

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boom. And you had many companies
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usually, if it was a new.com
company, it was usually the co

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founder, guy who invented some
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And I will say my CEOs are
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and myself without any degree in
anything except Except a life

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minored in herb ology, I was the
chief technology officer of a

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publicly listed company on
NASDAQ, which I co founded. I do

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not consider myself to be a
technologist at all, I can hack

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together some apple scripts, but
at a certain point, people

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started calling me the CIO when
they were talking about our

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company. Like I'm not the CIO.
And this This was a new job that

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was created. And I kind of
figured it out what the CIO at

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the time was when this position
was literally just made up was

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they needed a guy who could
translate mumbo jumbo technology

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stuff into marketing speak.
That's essentially what a CIO

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did. And so you had companies
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technology officer at Avon, they
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but then they needed someone who
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and, and internet speak. And so
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function was created. But after
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role of an accountant. And I
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release, march 5 2009. One day,
I will add one day after he

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resigned from the as Chief
Technology Officer of the of the

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State of the Commonwealth of
Maryland, was it Virginia?

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Probably Virginia, Virginia,

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on the very same day when there
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the people who reported directly
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well, I didn't know I did that
that red thing was for the DC

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office, wasn't it? But
Washington DC it was

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the DC office? Yes, yes. But
that was so he resigned on March

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4, march 5, they raid the
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a second. And President Obama
name is Vivek Coonrod, the

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Federal Chief Information
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This is a federal position.
Okay. So there's a part of the

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executive branch, it's the real
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And here's the you don't want a
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Well, when you look nobody's
responsible for the Federal

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Chief Information Officer
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Planning of federal information
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responsible for oversight of
federal technology spending. So

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he is he holds the budget, he
holds the money. Yeah, yeah. But

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that's, that's billions and
billions of dollars. And I'll

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point out that not only he, but
also his buddy, they're a niche.

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They have a lot of background in
medical, it. And this, of

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course, is where it's all going
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people love these guys in the
technology field. Because, you

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know, if you're, you know, that
all this money is going to be

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spent on health care. And of
course, just like the United

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Kingdom, the first thing that
always pops up as well, we've

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got to automate it and get
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And it's got to be, you know,
this is a great it opportunity.

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And in the United Kingdom, I
think they've missed spent by

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their own admission, three or 4
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is a complete failure. You know,
you get all these contractors

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and pull everyone together, and
they build huge Oracle databases

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and all kinds of stuff. And then
of course, it never works. So

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this guy,

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because there's never anybody in
charge of it that knows what

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they're doing. And this is the
problem that we have here. You

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know, I've said this before, if
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at Xerox PARC, the Palo Alto
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on a wall and threw a dart at
it, you'd have a guy more

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qualified than this guy.

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Well, here's what he's done
today. By the way, I

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think people that work for
companies like Xerox PARC must

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look at this. And they must be
shaking their heads. Why his why

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does this person have this job?
Fact? Why didn't we, I would say

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the same thing with Qudra. Why
do they have this job? And why

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are they getting so much support
from certain elements of Silicon

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Valley?

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Well, I think that's very,
that's very easy to understand.

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It's all about the friendships,
it's all about the connections.

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It's all about who you know. And
it's a it's a big sales job.

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This guy is the buyer. That's
essentially what he is. He is

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the buyer for the United States
Government for everything we're

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going to do and technology he's
going to buy. So here's this guy

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who's and by the way, that other
outfit, he worked for that

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consultancy. What was it called?
You wrote about it in your

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piece, and I actually jotted it
down hold on a second

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helped me out here, John,
somebody in the Nether.

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It's the world cities Alliance.
All right. So the world cities

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Alliance, of course, he was a
part of the greater Washington

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initiative, the G wi. What these
guys do is they essentially if

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you want to move your company
into Washington, in this case,

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he's going to go set everything
up for you. So that paid

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consultants and they make
introductions, you know, they

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they everything from housing,
you name it, but you look at

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who's on on the board, or who
are the investors of this

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Greater Washington initiative.
Oh, man, it's number one, the

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chairman walk oviya. Okay,
that's where it starts. We've

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got the Bank of America, we've
got Deloitte and Touche, we've

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got SunTrust Bank, interesting,
the Washington Post, not quite

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sure what they're doing on
there. But it's all it's a club.

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Right? And, and everyone gets
together and everyone's wheeling

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and dealing because you know, if
you get a government contract,

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that's good for life. That's the
beauty. That is the best thing

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you could have ever as a
government contract, because

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then you could Mooch and loot
the people.

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Well, there's, there's that. So
then I don't blame these guys

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for kissing his ass.

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Well, that's what it's all
about, John. That's all that

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it's about. So he's the best.
He's the best. So what has he

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done? He's taken reports that
were already available, and

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basically put them into a
wiziwig. A cool little

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interstate 94.

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There was a report issued by
then Senator Cohen that talked

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about billions of dollars that
are being wasted on information

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technology projects.

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So So listen to what he's saying
billions of dollars being

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wasted. This is a report. Now
listen, what he's done. He's

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actually taken this report of
billions of dollars and made it

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into pie charts.

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Last year, there's a report that
talked about $30 billion of IT

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investments that are in trouble.
Yet, the reporting that was

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there was a management watch
list, which is a static list

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that Congress the GAO and the
administration issued, the

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President talked about a culture
where we move away from secrecy,

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or we can change the default
position of the federal

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government from secret to open
and transparent. So we did is we

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built a dashboard that would

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this is a Big Silicon Valley
turn, by the way a dashboard,

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every your company has to have a
dashboard. So the board of

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directors can look at the
dashboard and know how the

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company is doing it is the
biggest farce in the world a

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dashboard. So he's taken this
data and built a dashboard, lift

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the veil on it expenditures. As
soon as we launched this public

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facing dashboard, which exposed
every layer of spending from who

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was responsible for the project
with actually the picture of the

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CIO on that project. So you
could actually see who is

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running this project, which
contractors are working on it,

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where we are in terms of
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we right we saw, right,

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so he's taking this data which
was already available, which was

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out in the report starting in
1994, and, or 2004, and has put

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it into nifty little pie charts
that you can click on, please go

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to the IDX dashboard, because I
spent a half a day on this

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thing, oh, please try and find
the recovery.gov spending, try

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and find the picture of the guys
who was responsible for the

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contract who's running the
project, the contractor find all

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the information he just
mentioned, and it's just not

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there. In fact, the majority of
these projects have $0, because

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there's little asterix at the
bottom of the page. This is only

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based upon the information that
was available. So we're just

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taking the same stupid data
that's not not transparent, not

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being made available, and
putting it into pie charts. From

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the same

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data turned into pie charts.

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So this from the same
conference, he unveiled two very

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important pieces of information.
He unveiled to us why the US

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Patent and Trademark Office is
so fucked up. And an important

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piece of information about 911
which I want to play for you

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right now.

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We're seeing in the federal
government is there are some

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agencies that have led some
because they were looking at

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broadband and teleworking as a
mechanism to drive productivity,

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and essentially, make sure that
they're attracting the best

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people and others that are
reacting to adverse

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circumstances. So the Patent and
Trademark Office is a perfect

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example where you have a federal
agency that's got a programme in

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place where close to 50% of
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teleworking that.

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No wonder it's messed up. We got
half of the PTO sitting at home

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that had probably housewives
reading through patent

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applications. Say oh, this
podcasting thing? Yeah, let's

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give that Devolo media. It's so
obvious is that a success is the

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patent and trade and Trademark
Office a success? Mr. Vivec?

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Because that 50% of them are at
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Just said it was a success
because of that. Yeah. He says

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it's we play that clip. So he
says let's back it up a second.

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So the Patent and Trademark
Office is a perfect example

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where you have a federal agency
that's got a programme in place.

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We're close to 50% of employees
are actually teleworking. And

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the PTO USPTO will tell you that
they already seen over $2

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million in cost savings and
14,000 tonnes of carbon

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emissions that have been

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we have saved 14 million
trillion tonnes of carbon

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emission not taking into account
these people sitting in their

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underwear farting at their at
their kitchen tables.

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We save money with teleworkers
because you don't have so much

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debt to show what it doesn't
mean they're doing a better job.

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Now listen to this. So I'd like
to highlight is the GAO. So

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that's

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the General Accounting Office.
Right? That's, uh, that's the

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Yeah, they're responsible for
the expenditure. Are they an

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oversight?

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They're like the accountants for
the country? Oh,

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listen to this. This is
something I did. I'd like to

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highlight is the GAO. After
September 11, the GAO had to

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vacate its building because of
the anthrax attack of the Senate

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heart building.

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Did you know that? That puts a
whole new perspective on the on

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the anthrax attacks. For me it
does at least

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well, for you. It would. I
didn't know that specifically.

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No, I don't think so. I don't
know that the GA Oh, there are

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government's bean counters. All
right. And what were they?

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Right, there was a Senate bill
that probably that gets their

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offices are there and so they
all left and so people could go

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in there and cook the books?
Well, you're thinking I know

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that.

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Well. On September 10, Donald
Rumsfeld and we have it on video

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said, you know, we're missing $2
trillion from the Pentagon, we

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really not quite sure where it
went, you know, it's just an

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oversight. We can't find it,
boom, all this stuff starts to

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happen. And then not only just
building set building seven go

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down. But without a plane
crashing into it, I might add.

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But then we have anthrax
attacks, where the GAO is the

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guys who would actually I have
no idea where this money went.

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I'm just saying

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they gotta have backups, tapes,
I mean, of course, if you have

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people that are running the
information technology side of

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the country don't really have a
background in, in true in being

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like a, like a CIO like, for
Procter and Gamble might have a

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background, and it's possible to
be completely ripped off. I

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mean, it's just this scenario is
very bad. It's a bad situation.

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So then I find this other clip
of him talking about his start

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in public service, which is
just, I just love tying this

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altogether. And I'm not making a
conspiracy theory out of it, but

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just listen to his own words
about how he got started in

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public service. Oh, man, here
comes

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already with you in terms of how
I got into public service in

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2001. And I was sitting in
Arlington, Virginia, being

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interviewed for a job as
director of infrastructure,

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technology. And otherwise 830 In
the morning, our the interview

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began, in the middle of it,
someone knocks on the door and

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says, We've entered federal
emergency. And suddenly, you

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know, we turn on CNN, and we see
the same thing going to the

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World Trade Centre. And they're,
you know, join on the spot, and

446
00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:26,550
it's up to the job. And that was
a timber level in 2001.

447
00:26:27,390 --> 00:26:31,140
Interoperability was such an
important issue back then.

448
00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:34,140
So, I don't know if you could
hear that clip, because it's

449
00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:37,350
kind of kind of muddled. So he
was doing his job interview on

450
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:42,210
September 11 2001, at 830 in the
morning, when the attacks occur

451
00:26:42,210 --> 00:26:44,160
on the New York,

452
00:26:44,610 --> 00:26:46,800
what job was he asking for?
Because it says some about

453
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,640
technology.

454
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:51,780
And it was it's very hard to
hear. But the thing that's me

455
00:26:51,780 --> 00:26:52,050
because

456
00:26:52,050 --> 00:26:56,790
apparently he got his degree
from that little college outlet.

457
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,920
It's like a factory outlet
degree

458
00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:07,500
2002. So that doesn't make any
sense in terms of the timeline

459
00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:09,840
but you know, King going but
then

460
00:27:09,870 --> 00:27:12,810
listen to instead of you know,
this was horrible. And what an

461
00:27:12,810 --> 00:27:15,630
atrocity he's thinking I must
lay fibre

462
00:27:19,050 --> 00:27:24,510
aside, we get fibre from falling
into DC the entire region. So we

463
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:26,010
did bring the SDR.

464
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:29,970
Now you got to look good. Watch
the clip, because we see his

465
00:27:29,970 --> 00:27:32,070
lips move, you can understand it
better. Well, we'll have it.

466
00:27:32,610 --> 00:27:36,090
So basically, so he during the
September 11 thing, he wasn't a

467
00:27:36,090 --> 00:27:37,560
Ghast he was thinking about I

468
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,020
was thinking about all this, I
have to lay fibre between all

469
00:27:40,020 --> 00:27:45,960
these different crap. And when
you see the insincerity, as he's

470
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,840
telling him like, Okay, I was
thinking something else at the

471
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,240
time, dude, I don't know about
you, but he was thinking I need

472
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,580
to lay fibre. But it's an
interesting story about how I

473
00:27:53,580 --> 00:27:56,880
got into public service. It's
one for the grandkids.

474
00:27:58,380 --> 00:28:02,250
You know, the problem was guys
like this, who are the CEO of a

475
00:28:02,250 --> 00:28:06,900
one person company, is that
they, they, they just, they just

476
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:09,720
I think they're just too loose
with the facts and the truth and

477
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,660
the way and this and the
timeline and everything in

478
00:28:12,660 --> 00:28:16,170
between. He's gonna get himself
into trouble. I mean, my thing,

479
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,410
you know, we had a certain
impact on a few readers, my

480
00:28:19,410 --> 00:28:21,780
article which people should go
back and read us on the blog.

481
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,360
And but it had no it had zero
impact. I mean, he his minions

482
00:28:27,420 --> 00:28:32,850
got a hold of all Malik who runs
a blog and you know, called

483
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,720
whatever it's called Giga ohm,
giga ohm, sorry. And it was a

484
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,390
friend of mine. And so he
didn't, you know, pick too much

485
00:28:39,390 --> 00:28:42,330
of it out. But he did do run
there, whatever they told him

486
00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:45,000
to, because he's it turns out
that the group of people that

487
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,670
are involved with sponsoring of
evac and others, if you start

488
00:28:50,670 --> 00:28:53,700
digging deep enough, you'll find
the financing of homes blog is

489
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:58,200
from this same group. And people
put that together before I did,

490
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,400
I didn't dream it up. But
anyway, so the guy says that,

491
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,130
you know, this is, you know,
this, they just had a blast of

492
00:29:05,130 --> 00:29:08,490
saying that the whatever are all
my whole column was lies, and,

493
00:29:08,850 --> 00:29:13,440
you know, slanderous, scandalous
lies. And I mean, if you read

494
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,600
the call, read it for yourself
and told me to think is a bunch

495
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,690
of lies. It's just, just, I'm
just questioning and notice

496
00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:21,810
how notice the job and notice
how you call the wife that you

497
00:29:21,810 --> 00:29:23,100
call the White House, and you
send that,

498
00:29:23,610 --> 00:29:26,070
no, you can't do this. You can't
call the White House, you got to

499
00:29:26,130 --> 00:29:28,650
go through this email thing,
which I did. I went through a

500
00:29:28,650 --> 00:29:31,290
process and heard anything yet.
Have you heard anything? No.

501
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:33,390
goes into a pot of nothing.

502
00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:38,730
So So Maalik sends out the bad
signal, and he's got the

503
00:29:38,730 --> 00:29:41,430
oversight management board
spokesperson on the line. I

504
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:45,000
mean, you have no pool, Johnny
Boy. I'm a little disappointed

505
00:29:45,330 --> 00:29:48,570
after 25 years in the business.
I mean, you have no pool. I'm

506
00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:49,080
sorry.

507
00:29:49,470 --> 00:29:51,900
Well, I don't have any pull
because I guess I'm not a you

508
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:55,530
know, I contributed to the
Democrat party. So look at all

509
00:29:55,530 --> 00:29:59,010
the people if you read my column
I wrote you'll note that people

510
00:29:59,010 --> 00:30:03,780
that all praised This situation
is no. Then Tim O'Reilly. You

511
00:30:03,780 --> 00:30:06,540
know, the great Tim O'Reilly
says nobody could be more

512
00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:09,090
qualified. He's just qualified.
No, you can't beat him.

513
00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:11,970
Well, he's not. There's all
kinds of questions. You know,

514
00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:16,350
the thing that has been severely
underreported in the news was so

515
00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:24,930
again, march 4 2009. He resigned
from his post. As Chief

516
00:30:24,930 --> 00:30:29,220
Technology Officer for DC, right
September, march to

517
00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:31,650
scan old all the people he hired
over there. And by the way, as

518
00:30:31,650 --> 00:30:34,530
far as I know, he's in it was in
Virginia, when they remember

519
00:30:34,530 --> 00:30:37,140
when there was at that breaking
and somebody stole all the

520
00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:40,440
health records of everybody in
the state. Yeah, then they they

521
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,650
put an extortion note out,
Wasn't he in charge? That was

522
00:30:43,650 --> 00:30:46,470
exactly the same thing. And so
they arrested the guy who

523
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:51,090
reported directly to him the use
of aakar. They he was the chief

524
00:30:51,090 --> 00:30:54,690
security officer reporting
directly

525
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,650
mind reporting. Riley would
think he was a great choice.

526
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,190
Now the second suspect, who was
arraigned on bribery charges,

527
00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:06,840
Sushil Bansal was the CEO and
founder of advanced Integrated

528
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,800
Technologies Corp, which is a
company that Vivek worked for.

529
00:31:16,170 --> 00:31:19,260
Yeah, but where's the file?
Where's the follow up? Where's

530
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:22,620
what happened to these guys? Did
they ever figure it out? I mean,

531
00:31:22,620 --> 00:31:27,150
and how come so Vivec was then
put, you know, on, on temporary

532
00:31:27,150 --> 00:31:29,490
leave, and then a couple of
weeks later, boom, he's back

533
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:31,559
here. This guy wasn't under
investigation.

534
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:35,670
But he was in charge. She was in
charge of these bronies.

535
00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:39,600
When and the curious thing of
course, is vec was caught for

536
00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:43,530
shoplifting and 97, which I
think accounted for the fact

537
00:31:43,530 --> 00:31:47,640
that took him six years to get a
degree in psychology, because it

538
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,070
was right in the middle of it.
It was I think the year before

539
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:55,050
it did probably the year he
should have graduated which was

540
00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:56,490
in 1997.

541
00:31:59,550 --> 00:32:01,260
Well, so I'll, by the way,

542
00:32:01,260 --> 00:32:04,320
Nick Shapiro, the White House
spokesman 20 years ago, the vet

543
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,560
committed he says 20 years of go
recommended a youthful

544
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,810
indiscretion stealing shirts
from pennies. It's like, let me

545
00:32:12,810 --> 00:32:17,400
put some more shirts on here and
see if I can walk out so

546
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,220
youthful indiscretion, what some
shirts, he's probably a snazzy

547
00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:20,820
dresser.

548
00:32:22,050 --> 00:32:26,370
So I do have a theory if you if
you want to hear it.

549
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:31,170
No, Somebody just sent me a note
that said there is no backup

550
00:32:31,170 --> 00:32:33,690
tapes in Virginia and the tapes
are stolen by the hackers and

551
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:34,590
this is fine.

552
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,130
That's that's our CIO, ladies
and gentlemen, taking care of

553
00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:39,750
business. Yay. No

554
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:41,790
backup tapes. Let's see. And the
other thing to do. The other

555
00:32:41,790 --> 00:32:43,890
thing everybody want to trigger
this article was the fact that

556
00:32:43,890 --> 00:32:46,410
this guy has kept which is the
reason I think O'Reilly and

557
00:32:46,410 --> 00:32:49,620
these others think He's great.
He keeps talking about Twitter.

558
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,190
And he keeps

559
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,130
data since 2008. Tweet, his
Twitter sheet is dead.

560
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,640
And Facebook. We should be using
Facebook more. We should be

561
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,200
using Google Docs for government
agencies. Go save so much money,

562
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:07,890
go to his Twitter feed his
Twitter feed dad. Well, he must

563
00:33:07,890 --> 00:33:08,790
have a new one now.

564
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,640
No, what do you mean? Why should
Why would you have to look up

565
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,040
something new, which I just take
a shot at it. The great Khunde

566
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,120
registry if it's under that,

567
00:33:15,420 --> 00:33:20,220
the real Qudra I'm looking at
his Twitter feed right now. It's

568
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:27,540
twitter.com/vet Qudra. last
entry, tweet 11 last tweet

569
00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:34,020
11:58am October 31 2008 DCS
government publishes procurement

570
00:33:34,020 --> 00:33:37,590
data online for apps for
democracy innovation contest.

571
00:33:37,710 --> 00:33:40,800
He's had like five now four
tweets total.

572
00:33:41,550 --> 00:33:43,980
Baby can't find the on switch to
the computer.

573
00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:47,130
Leveraging the power of
technology to improve service

574
00:33:47,130 --> 00:33:50,250
delivery drive innovation and
bridge the digital divide to

575
00:33:50,250 --> 00:33:54,210
build a world class city. Thanks
for Vic.

576
00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:56,040
Love anyway.

577
00:33:56,340 --> 00:34:00,570
All right. So so Okay, so this
use this use of aakar was busted

578
00:34:00,570 --> 00:34:06,840
apparently, through an FBI agent
who was wearing a wire and

579
00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:11,370
according to sources, okay, so
this is Adam curry crackpot

580
00:34:11,370 --> 00:34:15,450
stuff, but take take it at face
value. ALCAR also told the

581
00:34:15,450 --> 00:34:19,290
informant he could use his
computers to create fake birth

582
00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:24,810
certificates. So now I'm not and
I'm not a birther by any by any

583
00:34:24,810 --> 00:34:28,920
means. I am not a birther at
all. But I'm thinking this guy.

584
00:34:29,310 --> 00:34:34,440
So he's named CIO for no
apparent reason. Then all of a

585
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,120
sudden, these guys get busted.
And he's vexed put on the on the

586
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,910
sidelines, and then he's kind of
like ushered back in. He's got

587
00:34:41,910 --> 00:34:44,520
to know something. He's got to
have something on somebody. And

588
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,100
this guy is either going to rise
to be the president in the

589
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:49,860
future or it will find about
back with two to the head one or

590
00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:51,180
the other. It's gonna happen.

591
00:34:51,449 --> 00:34:56,429
Yeah, well. Anyway, that's kind
of the story. This is gonna be

592
00:34:56,429 --> 00:34:59,399
the first in a series of stories
not about him. I'm done with

593
00:34:59,399 --> 00:35:02,609
him. I'm gonna I'm not I want to
play one more clip, John. Well,

594
00:35:02,609 --> 00:35:05,279
no, I'm not done with him on the
show. I'm done writing about it.

595
00:35:05,279 --> 00:35:08,189
Okay? Make more clips, the
merrier.

596
00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:12,480
Okay, this is the clip that I
just love this. And you have to

597
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,170
know the guy got his start,
according to the Indian

598
00:35:16,170 --> 00:35:19,350
publications and research a
little bit here and there in

599
00:35:19,350 --> 00:35:22,140
telemarketing. So it was a
telemarketer in India. So I've

600
00:35:22,140 --> 00:35:24,720
probably talked to him before I
probably had a conversation

601
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:24,990
probably

602
00:35:24,989 --> 00:35:28,019
been sold something I've
probably had a conversation

603
00:35:28,020 --> 00:35:31,500
with. So this is near the very
end of the broadband panel

604
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:35,820
sponsored by the FCC. By the
way, the dude running the FCC is

605
00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:39,660
also a whole nother interesting
area we need to look into, but

606
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:43,770
just listen to the utter
bullshit coming out of x mouth.

607
00:35:43,770 --> 00:35:43,890
And

608
00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:47,070
if I can add to that, you know,
I think one of the biggest

609
00:35:47,070 --> 00:35:51,300
problems we see right now is the
fact that so much of what we do

610
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:53,880
online actually requires
training.

611
00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:55,620
Is that a fact,

612
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,730
John, that that I know of I
don't, I haven't taken any

613
00:35:59,730 --> 00:36:00,510
training.

614
00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:02,820
Maybe I can go to that
university and get

615
00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:06,330
training training to get the no
agenda stream.com working, you'd

616
00:36:06,330 --> 00:36:09,390
have training for that free
training of learn how to use

617
00:36:09,449 --> 00:36:11,369
Twitter fact, your comms

618
00:36:11,489 --> 00:36:14,519
and I think where you're going
to see the greatest innovation

619
00:36:14,549 --> 00:36:18,449
in the coming decade is going to
be around that human computer

620
00:36:18,449 --> 00:36:19,109
interface.

621
00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:21,870
Okay. I love it when people get
started on this particularly

622
00:36:21,870 --> 00:36:25,260
with you, John, because I
believe you were the one who 25

623
00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:27,840
years ago said the mouse would
never amount to anything, right?

624
00:36:27,929 --> 00:36:33,329
I never said that. You did? Are
you sure? I can give you the I

625
00:36:33,329 --> 00:36:35,999
can tell exactly what I said. I
said there when the mouse or

626
00:36:35,999 --> 00:36:38,459
this is always annoying, because
people keep dredging this stuff

627
00:36:38,459 --> 00:36:40,889
up, because I'm like a senator
that can't run for president

628
00:36:40,889 --> 00:36:43,919
because there's too much
baggage. What happened in 1984,

629
00:36:43,919 --> 00:36:46,679
when the mouse was introduced on
the Macintosh, I had a laundry

630
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:49,049
list of reasons I didn't think
the Macintosh would do well, by

631
00:36:49,049 --> 00:36:51,629
the way. And most of those,
those things I complained about,

632
00:36:51,629 --> 00:36:54,269
were all corrected, because I
actually had was challenged by

633
00:36:54,269 --> 00:36:56,789
an Apple guy who said, What do
you think about this code? And

634
00:36:56,789 --> 00:36:59,189
we wrote big good. And so I
said, Well, here it is. And then

635
00:36:59,189 --> 00:37:02,129
I went item by item, and every
one of these complaints of mine

636
00:37:02,129 --> 00:37:05,519
was changed. But the one thing I
said about the mouse was the

637
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:09,599
following. I said there's no
evidence. There's a new device,

638
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:11,729
no one's seen it before. There's
no evidence that anybody wants

639
00:37:11,729 --> 00:37:14,939
to use these things. Because
there was no evidence it would

640
00:37:14,939 --> 00:37:19,559
just came out. I never said it
was going to fail. You know, I

641
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,319
have explained this till I'm
blue in the face. But people

642
00:37:22,319 --> 00:37:25,379
keep cropping it. It keeps
coming up now because every time

643
00:37:25,379 --> 00:37:28,469
I complain about they bring it
up again, just that annoying me

644
00:37:28,499 --> 00:37:29,549
I have to say

645
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,560
a it's working. b I love reading
the comments on your blog and

646
00:37:34,590 --> 00:37:37,260
with the knowledge that people
just kind of hate you as much as

647
00:37:37,260 --> 00:37:40,530
they hate me. So I feel I feel
very good about it. Now let's

648
00:37:40,530 --> 00:37:45,030
let's listen. Because the kind
of issue it's a lovely. The

649
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:48,540
human computer interface blows
Vivec has an idea.

650
00:37:48,929 --> 00:37:52,319
And think about this. I know
there are people on Second Life

651
00:37:52,319 --> 00:37:55,019
right now. But imagine a
universe I

652
00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:56,970
love it. Imagine a universe

653
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,120
where we made it stop stuff he's
doing the second life

654
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,760
referencing it all. He doesn't
make any other reference to he

655
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,100
says I know there are people so
it's like Sam's like I'm talking

656
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:10,050
to you and saying I know there's
somebody eating cheese. It

657
00:38:10,050 --> 00:38:11,310
doesn't make any sense. Because

658
00:38:11,310 --> 00:38:13,890
there were people that had a
whole table of guys like

659
00:38:14,909 --> 00:38:17,339
a checklist of things. He has to
just say it oh, well, it gets

660
00:38:17,339 --> 00:38:17,669
better.

661
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:19,950
Okay, people eat and cheese out
there

662
00:38:19,949 --> 00:38:24,179
now. But imagine a universe
where you have the Star Trek

663
00:38:24,179 --> 00:38:28,709
holodeck, where you could
literally ask the computer to

664
00:38:28,709 --> 00:38:30,899
act or ask questions and get
answers.

665
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:34,409
Oh my gosh, he just invented
Google.

666
00:38:36,389 --> 00:38:37,619
Unbelievable.

667
00:38:37,739 --> 00:38:42,059
You can literally do that Google
voice search literally does

668
00:38:42,059 --> 00:38:42,659
that.

669
00:38:43,170 --> 00:38:46,950
Well imagine the universe, the
universe with 100. holodeck

670
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:49,140
though because you'd have to be
able to walk into it. And you

671
00:38:49,140 --> 00:38:50,880
didn't you'd have think computer

672
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:54,840
computer on computer on. Okay,
now listen, it gets better.

673
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:57,929
In the same way. If you look at
some of these software

674
00:38:57,929 --> 00:39:02,969
companies, they've made it so
complicated to interact with.

675
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,700
What's he talking about?

676
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,770
Companies you've made it so
complicated to make us to enable

677
00:39:10,770 --> 00:39:13,260
us to interact with the data.
Listen, listen, listen to what

678
00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:14,820
he says complicated

679
00:39:14,850 --> 00:39:19,530
to interact with their
technologies. And at the same

680
00:39:19,530 --> 00:39:22,710
time, the underlying
architecture and the platforms.

681
00:39:22,980 --> 00:39:25,020
It's almost a chicken and egg
question. Okay.

682
00:39:25,170 --> 00:39:29,280
I love this at the same time.
What did he say? This is this is

683
00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:32,670
he's it's like he's standing in
front of VCs pitching a really

684
00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:33,660
bad idea.

685
00:39:33,749 --> 00:39:37,169
Now the the thing that he said
there again, by the way, which

686
00:39:37,169 --> 00:39:41,609
got to me, what does he mean by
it's almost a chicken and egg

687
00:39:41,609 --> 00:39:42,839
question. Well, let's let's

688
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,670
see talking about listen to it
again,

689
00:39:44,670 --> 00:39:48,870
technologies. And at the same
time, the underlying

690
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:52,230
architecture, the underlying
architecture, the platform and

691
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:55,650
the platform. It's almost a
chicken. It's almost a chicken

692
00:39:55,650 --> 00:39:59,160
and an egg, the underlying
platform or the underlying

693
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,290
technology of the platform have
chicken or egg John, which one

694
00:40:01,290 --> 00:40:01,920
would you like,

695
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,960
can enact Russian here comes
because a lot of it was built

696
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,060
and architected around bandwidth
constraints, plans

697
00:40:12,179 --> 00:40:15,509
a lot, a lot of a lot of
Microsoft Word was built under

698
00:40:15,509 --> 00:40:18,329
bandwidth constraints and it
made a big difference. Well, you

699
00:40:18,329 --> 00:40:21,719
need training for Windows seven
is a bandwidth constrained thing

700
00:40:21,749 --> 00:40:25,589
oracle was built away it was
because of bandwidth

701
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:28,409
constraints, these things were
all started as, as kind of, you

702
00:40:28,409 --> 00:40:30,989
know, network oriented, that has
nothing to do none of this has

703
00:40:30,989 --> 00:40:33,359
to do anything to do with
bandwidth unless you're talking

704
00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:34,289
about Twitter,

705
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,420
well, standby, therefore, you

706
00:40:36,419 --> 00:40:38,729
had to deploy technologies, it's
just a hole.

707
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,550
So what he does in this case,
and this is I've seen this

708
00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:44,490
happen time and time again. Now
it's just I'm gonna throw in

709
00:40:44,490 --> 00:40:47,460
fact, I have to say, my partner,
Ron Bloom used to do this

710
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:50,970
really, really well. You just
throw out all kinds of buzzwords

711
00:40:50,970 --> 00:40:54,750
one after another. And then the
audience is just, hey, I'm

712
00:40:54,780 --> 00:40:57,030
confused. Listen to what he
comes up with

713
00:40:57,060 --> 00:41:00,270
that were much more complicated
in terms of interacting and

714
00:41:00,270 --> 00:41:04,350
communicating. Now as broadband
deployment. And more

715
00:41:04,350 --> 00:41:10,620
importantly, if you look at the
megabits per second, how much

716
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:14,550
how much information come and
get through the pipeline is

717
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:17,820
gonna be so important. And as
new and new software

718
00:41:17,820 --> 00:41:20,070
technologies are being
introduced, but you're gonna see

719
00:41:20,070 --> 00:41:24,240
a huge change from how
applications are architected

720
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:25,710
with skip logic to

721
00:41:25,739 --> 00:41:31,469
Okay, so I'm like, skip logic,
skip logic. Remember, I told you

722
00:41:31,469 --> 00:41:35,609
the guy was a telemarketer. If
you look at if you look up skip

723
00:41:35,609 --> 00:41:39,659
logic, skip logic is basically a
trece structure where you go

724
00:41:39,659 --> 00:41:44,039
through a questionnaire and the
friend the first skip is, Are

725
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:47,339
you male or female? I'm female.
Oh, we skip to the female

726
00:41:47,339 --> 00:41:50,399
questions. So he's now just
pulling stuff out of his ass

727
00:41:50,429 --> 00:41:54,239
skip logic. But it sounds really
good. And it gets better,

728
00:41:54,270 --> 00:41:57,750
huge change from how
applications are architected

729
00:41:57,750 --> 00:42:03,000
with skip logic to video, skip
logic to video and much more

730
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,210
human ways of interacting with
his application or comes Josh's

731
00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:11,370
rather than binary or COBOL ways
of interacting. Okay. Yeah.

732
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,789
Binary or COBOL? What is COBOL?

733
00:42:15,540 --> 00:42:21,330
COBOL way of interacting is my
area. It's binary or COBOL. What

734
00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:26,730
is that? guy's a genius. He He's
a whiz kid. He's a genius at

735
00:42:26,730 --> 00:42:30,360
techno whiz. According to The
New York Times ed tech. No, is

736
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,910
mine area called?

737
00:42:39,179 --> 00:42:47,729
Over here binary or COBOL? Does
he mean like COBOL? The old

738
00:42:47,729 --> 00:42:50,249
programming? Oh, that's COBOL
wasn't it? That's

739
00:42:50,670 --> 00:42:54,090
not COBOL is pronounced COBOL.
He got the pronunciation right.

740
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:55,560
Oh,

741
00:42:57,090 --> 00:42:58,200
I gotta hear it again.

742
00:42:58,829 --> 00:43:00,809
Let's actually go back and play
the whole clip without

743
00:43:00,809 --> 00:43:04,289
interrupting it, oh, no, I can't
do that whole clip, just a part

744
00:43:04,289 --> 00:43:05,399
about skip logic to

745
00:43:06,270 --> 00:43:10,050
get through the pipeline is
going to be so important. And as

746
00:43:10,050 --> 00:43:12,360
new and new software
technologies are being

747
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,290
introduced, but you're gonna see
a huge change from how

748
00:43:16,290 --> 00:43:20,310
applications are architected
with skip logic to video and

749
00:43:20,310 --> 00:43:22,470
much more human ways of
interacting with these

750
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:27,300
applications rather than binary
or COBOL ways of interacting

751
00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:28,200
with those applications

752
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:35,759
because Okay, the guy is the guy
is clearly a genius. He says

753
00:43:35,759 --> 00:43:46,319
he's a techno is a whiz kid. But
he could be more qualified Oh my

754
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:52,709
goodness. So Laurie had with you
No, no, no, we have the other

755
00:43:52,709 --> 00:43:57,209
guy which is I think we've got a
Riley or Demi was a niche, a

756
00:43:57,209 --> 00:43:58,409
niche Chopra.

757
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:01,260
I was looking for some
connections because obviously

758
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:04,320
there's a there's an Indian
connection here. And it's pretty

759
00:44:04,350 --> 00:44:09,000
it's pretty obvious and
understandable that expats help

760
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,970
each other out in all forms of
of work and social life. Of

761
00:44:14,970 --> 00:44:18,120
course, expats from the
Netherlands from time to time

762
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,170
get together and eat raw herring
together it seems that expats

763
00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:27,810
from India give each other
really cool jobs and and there's

764
00:44:27,810 --> 00:44:30,510
gotta be deals going on and I
have to say there's a lot of

765
00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:34,770
these guys at Amazon and they're
tied into many many many many

766
00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:37,440
business ventures and I'm not
against it that's all fine but

767
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,000
you know I do have my questions
you know when we when we've got

768
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,570
this guy responsible for
potentially billions of dollars

769
00:44:45,570 --> 00:44:48,930
billions of dollars in spending
exactly and he's bacon pie

770
00:44:48,930 --> 00:44:52,860
charts have binary step logic
and, and COBOL.

771
00:44:55,830 --> 00:44:58,890
To communicate until now we've
had to communicate in binary.

772
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,580
Yeah, I sit there typing ones
and zeros and ones and zeros

773
00:45:02,670 --> 00:45:03,600
into Twitter.

774
00:45:03,780 --> 00:45:06,930
So But interestingly enough, I
looked up the owners of smart

775
00:45:06,930 --> 00:45:11,880
tronics fully expecting to see
an Indian ownership too much to

776
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,540
my surprise, which of course
blows my entire theory. Muhammad

777
00:45:15,570 --> 00:45:19,830
Arshad. Javaid is one of the
three owners. That's him and the

778
00:45:19,830 --> 00:45:23,730
Paris brothers known from Jesse
James and the Paris brothers.

779
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,900
He's Pakistani. That kind of
blew my whole theory right

780
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:28,350
there.

781
00:45:29,550 --> 00:45:33,210
Yeah, that Pakistanis and you
don't normally see that kind of,

782
00:45:33,630 --> 00:45:37,080
although in the US it's not the
Pakistanis and Indians don't

783
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,700
hate each other that much. The
you know, they're same in terms

784
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:45,330
of cultures, there's a
similarity that's kind of hard

785
00:45:45,330 --> 00:45:45,780
to anyway,

786
00:45:45,779 --> 00:45:53,819
so vet can can do do a solid by
unredacting the smart tronics

787
00:45:54,209 --> 00:45:57,869
deal deal. So we just read it.
You know, what's I heard, by the

788
00:45:57,869 --> 00:46:02,429
way that the whole thing is
built on Drupal? What Yes.

789
00:46:02,610 --> 00:46:05,250
Oh, this is going to send them
to the through the roof. Are you

790
00:46:05,250 --> 00:46:11,070
telling me $18 million to build
a Drupal website? That's what I

791
00:46:11,790 --> 00:46:15,750
not possible? There's no way no
I was. There has to be built

792
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:18,660
from it for that kind of money.
This thing should be built from

793
00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:22,110
scratch from from vestigial
virgins. No, I

794
00:46:23,070 --> 00:46:27,360
rolled on the thighs of virgins.
No, because I was reading some

795
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,720
of the Blue State Digital who
built whitehouse.gov And I did

796
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:33,690
Obama's site and did a number a
number of other site sites. And

797
00:46:33,690 --> 00:46:40,080
this is where Vivex right hand
guy kind of pudgy dude, who

798
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,130
posts who posted all the who
runs the blog, what's his name?

799
00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:48,360
Yeah. Yeah, whatever. I mean,
making Phillips I think is his

800
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,700
name's or Mason or something
like that.

801
00:46:50,730 --> 00:46:53,580
We need a wall of names that we
refer to.

802
00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:56,850
So there were some some
chattering going on, because

803
00:46:56,850 --> 00:46:58,800
Blue State Digital was pissed
off, they didn't get the

804
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,730
recovery.gov contract. And my
understanding is it's running on

805
00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:03,300
Drupal?

806
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,340
Well, I don't think recovery.org
is going to be a Drupal site.

807
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:11,790
You're gonna have a group chat.
I keep making that mistake.

808
00:47:11,790 --> 00:47:17,430
Sorry. recovery.gov solicited
against office is going to be

809
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:22,560
run on Drew Paul, because I
don't see how they're going to

810
00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:26,580
announce or I mean, how are they
going to rationalise that kind

811
00:47:26,580 --> 00:47:30,840
of money? These these new
programmes software systems out

812
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,560
there like Drupal or Wordpress
or you know, any of them are

813
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,920
Squarespace that we use for me
for no agenda.squarespace.com.

814
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:43,440
All these things have made it
easier to do websites fast and

815
00:47:43,470 --> 00:47:47,040
extremely inexpensively. So why
would you all of a sudden have

816
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,570
to spend $18 million for what
for a website that really, you

817
00:47:51,570 --> 00:47:55,170
know, if it cost a million
dollars, it would be pretty it

818
00:47:55,170 --> 00:47:56,040
would be pushing and I

819
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,030
keep getting emails and all
kinds of messages on the drop

820
00:48:00,030 --> 00:48:04,380
from people about other
governmental website revamps

821
00:48:04,410 --> 00:48:08,940
around the world. Max Max Max
half a million dollars is being

822
00:48:08,940 --> 00:48:11,850
spent some of them are like in
Germany. I think I should look

823
00:48:11,850 --> 00:48:17,490
it up here. They got 27 websites
for like 400,000 euros. Well,

824
00:48:17,490 --> 00:48:17,790
here's

825
00:48:17,909 --> 00:48:21,239
right that's that's more like it
now. Let me take it I just got

826
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,219
sent the link to fed
spending.org A project of OMB

827
00:48:26,219 --> 00:48:27,479
Watch. Hey, let

828
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:34,200
me interrupt you. In Germany
300,000 euros for the new German

829
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,920
Parliament's website, the
parliaments website. And that's

830
00:48:37,950 --> 00:48:39,900
that's a big deal to

831
00:48:42,389 --> 00:48:47,249
I'm sorry, federal spending.org
Smart tronics Inc, contracts to

832
00:48:47,759 --> 00:48:50,639
you can look this up, go to
federal spending.org Everybody

833
00:48:50,639 --> 00:48:54,569
out there and start looking Stop
Don't cross the site. Smart

834
00:48:54,569 --> 00:49:01,739
tronics Inc, federal fiscal year
2000 to 2008. The contracts that

835
00:49:01,739 --> 00:49:09,689
went to this company $201
million. These guys know how to

836
00:49:09,689 --> 00:49:16,109
sell? Yeah, they do. They made
$53 million from full and open

837
00:49:16,109 --> 00:49:23,639
competition with only one bid
for what project? God knows, I

838
00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:26,129
don't know if there's links to
the project specific but

839
00:49:26,369 --> 00:49:29,489
whatever the case is, this
company is just amazing. I mean,

840
00:49:29,489 --> 00:49:32,579
they have some hooks into
something because they really

841
00:49:32,579 --> 00:49:37,769
know I mean, I'm not gonna fault
them for you know, for taking

842
00:49:37,769 --> 00:49:41,009
the taxpayers money and you
every chance they get, but I

843
00:49:41,009 --> 00:49:44,549
have to say these guys know how
to sell because they're amazing

844
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:48,509
and they're not getting 18
million for one crummy Drupal

845
00:49:48,509 --> 00:49:51,719
web website. If it's driven
Drupal, I'm sceptical. I would

846
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,609
like to see documentation
approve that.

847
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,130
I would like to see it too.

848
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,580
Somebody just sent me some
documentation. Hey, by the way

849
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,130
stuff. Drupal website
drupal.org. The website it's

850
00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:11,940
official on Drupal. recovery.gov
is on Drupal. Okay? Jobs, jobs

851
00:50:11,940 --> 00:50:18,180
and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
Okay, guys, gals, this is a

852
00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:21,990
letter from the recovery.gov
development team, I can confirm

853
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:26,250
one thing, www recovery.gov is
on Drupal, we were able to put

854
00:50:26,250 --> 00:50:28,380
out this out pretty fast. And in
the coming months, you're going

855
00:50:28,380 --> 00:50:31,470
to see how it's going to evolve.
A lot of dynamic data will be

856
00:50:31,470 --> 00:50:34,740
posted there. And you'll see a
more powerful website on Drupal

857
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:35,550
soon.

858
00:50:38,130 --> 00:50:40,470
That may have to be the opening
of the show. John, let me just

859
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:44,820
mark down the time code. Well,
there you go. An $80 million

860
00:50:45,090 --> 00:50:48,660
Drupal website. Need we say
anymore need wheeze? You know,

861
00:50:48,660 --> 00:50:49,620
and I'm all for the

862
00:50:49,620 --> 00:50:52,980
shuckers out there who are
working for $10,000 already.

863
00:50:52,980 --> 00:50:53,430
It's

864
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:58,800
think about all the great Drupal
developers that are out there

865
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,340
who would would be great to have
people I mean, we did we could

866
00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:05,160
create jobs. I mean, there's
tonnes of people who can who are

867
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,450
really good at Drupal.

868
00:51:06,570 --> 00:51:09,180
Oh, yeah. And that they make
some slick stuff and they could

869
00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:14,070
probably be out slick
recovery.gov for 100 grand. But

870
00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:14,700
that's okay.

871
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:18,750
So, I just got a I got a message
from friends. Hey, I got an

872
00:51:18,750 --> 00:51:22,650
email from my friend John just
came in fresh off the press. My

873
00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:24,360
friend David Axelrod.

874
00:51:26,580 --> 00:51:28,740
I'd received Yes. I got to David
Axelrod.

875
00:51:29,069 --> 00:51:32,459
No, this is a new one that just
came in. It just came in. It's a

876
00:51:32,459 --> 00:51:33,509
new one second,

877
00:51:33,509 --> 00:51:37,199
because I got one this morning.
One hour ago. Did you get one

878
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,989
hour ago? No, no, it was like
this more. It was like two or

879
00:51:39,989 --> 00:51:40,799
three hours ago.

880
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:45,090
Dear friend. That's my friend
David. David Axelrod, who is

881
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,700
he's the PR guy. He's Google's
right?

882
00:51:50,190 --> 00:51:52,860
He's kind of I think he's more
like gearing personally. But

883
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,770
gurbles is okay. This is

884
00:51:55,769 --> 00:51:58,559
probably one of the longest
emails I've ever sent. But it

885
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:00,989
could be the most important is
that doesn't sound like a

886
00:52:00,989 --> 00:52:05,879
Nigerian email scam when it
starts off like that. And this

887
00:52:05,879 --> 00:52:08,399
is across the country, we are
seeing vigorous debate about

888
00:52:08,399 --> 00:52:11,369
health insurance reform.
Unfortunately, some of the old

889
00:52:11,369 --> 00:52:15,539
tactics we know so well are back
even the viral emails that fly

890
00:52:15,539 --> 00:52:19,109
unchecked, and under the radar
spreading all sorts of lies and

891
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:19,889
distortions.

892
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,010
He's talking about you, John, I
don't send out email

893
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,310
when people are sending emails
about your piece. Oh, yeah.

894
00:52:26,550 --> 00:52:29,610
President Obama said at the Town
Hall in New Hampshire, where we

895
00:52:29,610 --> 00:52:32,370
do disagree, let's disagree over
things that are real, not these

896
00:52:32,370 --> 00:52:34,830
wild misrepresentations that
bear no resemblance to anything

897
00:52:34,830 --> 00:52:38,760
that's actually been proposed.
So let's start and chain email

898
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:43,620
of our own. Wow, he's starting
to spam. At the end of my email,

899
00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:45,750
you will find lots of
information about health

900
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:48,060
insurance reform distilled into
Okay, blah, blah, blah, blah,

901
00:52:48,060 --> 00:52:51,780
blah. Right now, you probably
you know, you someone you know,

902
00:52:51,780 --> 00:52:55,140
probably has a question for you
about that could be answered by

903
00:52:55,140 --> 00:52:59,130
what's below. So what are you
waiting for, for this email. And

904
00:52:59,130 --> 00:53:02,610
of course, it's, he has a link
to reality check, which is

905
00:53:02,610 --> 00:53:05,130
something we were going to talk
about based upon a previous

906
00:53:05,130 --> 00:53:07,890
email that came earlier this
week from my friend, David

907
00:53:07,890 --> 00:53:15,270
Axelrod, senior adviser to the
president. But he says PS, we

908
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:19,440
launched whitehouse.gov/reality
Check this week to knock down

909
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,290
the rumours and lies that are
floating around the internet.

910
00:53:22,590 --> 00:53:26,130
You can find the information
below and much, much more. For

911
00:53:26,130 --> 00:53:29,910
example, we've just added a
video by Nancy and a parley from

912
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:33,990
our health reform office
tackling a viral email head on.

913
00:53:34,650 --> 00:53:38,820
And I'd like to play this for
you, John. Because it is. It is

914
00:53:38,820 --> 00:53:42,780
total doublespeak Ministry of
Truth stuff. You ready? Yeah,

915
00:53:42,780 --> 00:53:42,900
I'm

916
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:44,430
all I'm all ears.

917
00:53:44,460 --> 00:53:49,590
So the title of the video is the
return of the viral email, the

918
00:53:49,590 --> 00:53:50,010
return,

919
00:53:50,550 --> 00:53:53,760
the return return when it is
stopped. The return

920
00:53:53,790 --> 00:53:58,650
of the viral email, here she
comes Nancy, take it away, baby.

921
00:53:59,490 --> 00:54:00,720
Cue. Hi, I'm

922
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:02,820
Nancy and Pearl, and I'm the
Director of the White House

923
00:54:02,820 --> 00:54:05,070
Office of Health Reform. I bet
most of you

924
00:54:05,790 --> 00:54:08,670
by the way, this whole video is
chopped up into bits. It's like

925
00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:10,980
viral emails. In fact, when

926
00:54:11,009 --> 00:54:16,379
you heard of viral emails must
be something new. Alright, here

927
00:54:16,379 --> 00:54:18,749
we go. Oh, come on. Play. Play
Play

928
00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:21,900
is one of the folks that I work
with here at the White House.

929
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:25,589
buffering

930
00:54:26,010 --> 00:54:27,330
is buffer you have

931
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,000
the federal government will have
direct real time access to all

932
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,240
individual bank accounts for
electronic funds transfer. Okay.

933
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:39,270
So here are the facts behind
that. First of all, I'm pretty

934
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:43,380
sure that this whole effort
here, screw it.

935
00:54:43,380 --> 00:54:46,950
Let me just pull it back for a
second. So what she's debunking

936
00:54:46,980 --> 00:54:51,090
and they actually use all these
words here about debunking all

937
00:54:51,090 --> 00:54:56,760
these lies. So this is from the
from the help the proposed

938
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,700
health care bill, at least the
one that I've read, where the

939
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:02,370
federal Government will have
direct real time access to all

940
00:55:02,370 --> 00:55:05,190
individual bank accounts for
electronic funds transfer. Now

941
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:08,490
listen to how she debunks it and
what she actually says,

942
00:55:08,670 --> 00:55:11,610
Here are the facts behind that.
First of all, I'm pretty sure

943
00:55:11,610 --> 00:55:15,120
that this whole effort here came
from the Administrative

944
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,860
Simplification efforts that the
health insurance industry itself

945
00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:22,980
has asked for Congress and the
administration to undertake

946
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,280
individuals, not the government
will be in charge of their bank

947
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,540
accounts, just like they are
today. The next chart comes Did

948
00:55:30,540 --> 00:55:30,600
you

949
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,410
hear what she says? She says,
individuals recharged the in

950
00:55:34,410 --> 00:55:36,660
charge of their bank accounts,
just as it is today. That's not

951
00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:36,750
the

952
00:55:36,749 --> 00:55:40,709
question. The question is, will
the government have real time

953
00:55:40,709 --> 00:55:43,769
access to your bank account?
Which is the that's the way I

954
00:55:43,769 --> 00:55:47,819
read it, too. But she's not
saying they won't have real time

955
00:55:47,819 --> 00:55:50,069
access. She's saying, Oh, you'll
still be in charge of your bank

956
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:53,639
account. Do you hear the subtle
difference? John?

957
00:55:53,849 --> 00:55:58,529
Yes, it works like this, you ask
a question? Well, I'm afraid

958
00:55:58,529 --> 00:56:01,079
that the government is going to
be looking at my bank account in

959
00:56:01,109 --> 00:56:05,579
real time, anytime they want to
know No, no, you're gonna have

960
00:56:05,579 --> 00:56:07,889
the exact same bank account you
had before, you're gonna have

961
00:56:07,889 --> 00:56:11,159
the same and you'll be using it
exactly the same way. Nothing's

962
00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:12,599
going to change for you.

963
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:19,050
Or as we say, don't look over
here, nothing to see. Look at

964
00:56:19,050 --> 00:56:21,480
that. Let's play a little bit
more of this the videos, little

965
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,170
one. So this

966
00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:25,050
is another example. By the way,
this kind of deceitful thing

967
00:56:25,050 --> 00:56:28,680
going on constantly, that people
are getting sicker by the way.

968
00:56:28,830 --> 00:56:32,130
Yeah. And it's so blatantly I
don't understand how they can

969
00:56:32,130 --> 00:56:37,230
put you how we can send a blast
email to everyone. And then this

970
00:56:37,230 --> 00:56:39,240
video, alright, let's continue

971
00:56:39,509 --> 00:56:41,639
for Congress and the
administration to undertake

972
00:56:42,029 --> 00:56:44,909
individuals, not the government
will be in charge of their bank

973
00:56:44,909 --> 00:56:47,699
accounts just like they are
today. The next charge in the

974
00:56:47,699 --> 00:56:52,409
email comes from they say page
145 of the bill, an employer

975
00:56:52,409 --> 00:56:55,979
must auto enrol employees into
the government run health public

976
00:56:55,979 --> 00:57:00,539
plan, no alternatives. That's
the quote from the email. I've

977
00:57:00,539 --> 00:57:03,119
read the bill, there's
absolutely no such requirement

978
00:57:03,179 --> 00:57:06,659
in the bill on page 145, or any
other page, the email says that

979
00:57:06,659 --> 00:57:10,589
on page 239, the bill will
reduce physician services for

980
00:57:10,589 --> 00:57:13,979
Medicaid, seniors and the poor,
most affected.

981
00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:18,179
Alright, so Bill will reduce
physician services for Medicaid,

982
00:57:18,419 --> 00:57:23,819
seniors and the poor, most
affected. So let's listen to the

983
00:57:23,819 --> 00:57:28,289
answer to this one. crappy
video,

984
00:57:30,330 --> 00:57:34,740
position services for Medicaid,
seniors and the poor, most

985
00:57:34,770 --> 00:57:39,600
affected, again, not true. On
the contrary, in this section of

986
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,200
the bill, the health insurance
reform legislation prevents a

987
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,490
scheduled 21% cut in the
Medicare Physician Fee Schedule.

988
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,160
So she's talking about the fee
schedule, not about the

989
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:55,320
services. It's one of these
subtle differences. And I'm just

990
00:57:55,350 --> 00:57:58,980
I'm just blown away. I mean,
even if if they intend to say

991
00:57:58,980 --> 00:58:02,040
it, if they're really intending
to debunk, and I'm all for that,

992
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,560
because I would like to have
real answers as well. By the

993
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,700
way, I just found out that the
insurance company that insures

994
00:58:08,700 --> 00:58:16,350
our company's medical plan has
raised our our premium our cost

995
00:58:16,350 --> 00:58:23,070
by 15 17%. For next year. So
it's not that I'm against reform

996
00:58:23,070 --> 00:58:27,840
or basically getting these
asshole insurance companies out

997
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,160
of it. But

998
00:58:29,189 --> 00:58:32,639
you have to now, tell us what
you said in the meeting?

999
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:36,180
No, I don't think so. That's not
a good idea.

1000
00:58:37,230 --> 00:58:38,400
I think it's funny. No, I

1001
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,020
don't think it's very funny. It
wasn't funny at the time,

1002
00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:43,350
either.

1003
00:58:45,449 --> 00:58:50,249
But anyway, go on. Why? Well,
you wouldn't mind it if these

1004
00:58:50,249 --> 00:58:53,309
people were honest and
straightforward. And you know,

1005
00:58:53,309 --> 00:58:55,679
instead of trying to say, you
know, they get criticised for

1006
00:58:55,679 --> 00:58:58,529
this stuff, you're they'd be
better off ignoring it. You have

1007
00:58:58,529 --> 00:59:01,229
somebody was just sent out a
viral email, moaning and

1008
00:59:01,229 --> 00:59:02,999
groaning about this, that and
the other thing that you find

1009
00:59:02,999 --> 00:59:05,549
the one or two things in there
that are really genuinely wrong,

1010
00:59:05,549 --> 00:59:08,399
and there's probably a couple
and just ignore the rest of it.

1011
00:59:08,879 --> 00:59:11,609
I mean, why are they gonna do
the why? Why say, oh, no, you're

1012
00:59:11,609 --> 00:59:13,769
gonna still run the banks that
bet your bank account the way

1013
00:59:13,769 --> 00:59:15,869
you've always run your bank
account, the government's not

1014
00:59:15,869 --> 00:59:18,119
gonna run your account. That's
what the question was, Is the

1015
00:59:18,119 --> 00:59:20,159
government gonna be monitoring
the bank account? Do

1016
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,680
they have real time access? And
I read it literally, we read

1017
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,890
that on this show. It literally
says there will be four debits

1018
00:59:25,890 --> 00:59:28,680
and credits. There'll be a real
time connection between the

1019
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,780
government and your bank
account. It says it but she's

1020
00:59:30,780 --> 00:59:35,730
not debunking it that way. It's
just that just angers me. Yeah.

1021
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:36,120
Well, it's

1022
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,480
part of this dishonesty. You
know, I mean, you can talk about

1023
00:59:39,630 --> 00:59:42,090
honesty, all you want me to do
always reminds me of Microsoft.

1024
00:59:42,090 --> 00:59:45,210
In the old days, they would keep
using the word innovation. I

1025
00:59:45,210 --> 00:59:47,880
wrote a bunch of columns on
this, you know, tracking the use

1026
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,850
of the word innovation at
Microsoft, because they had no

1027
00:59:50,850 --> 00:59:54,360
innovation. So they figured if
they kept using the word enough,

1028
00:59:54,540 --> 00:59:56,640
people would assume no, they
must know. Yeah, Microsoft,

1029
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,970
Microsoft, my own innovation
comes to mind. You know, so you

1030
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,480
Gotta stay open and honest and
you know transparent keep saying

1031
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,970
it just say it a million times
so when you think of Obama think

1032
01:00:05,970 --> 01:00:09,630
a transparent because the word
has been used a lot, but it's

1033
01:00:09,660 --> 01:00:13,260
bogus and the public is are
complete idiots for following

1034
01:00:13,260 --> 01:00:15,930
along with this kind of a thing
without being more sceptical.

1035
01:00:15,930 --> 01:00:17,850
This is one of the things that
really bugs me, by the way,

1036
01:00:18,180 --> 01:00:20,550
about some of the feedback I got
in that column. I don't want to

1037
01:00:20,550 --> 01:00:22,620
go back to it, but I'm going to
just mention this one thing.

1038
01:00:22,890 --> 01:00:24,840
Whatever happened when I was a
kid, wait

1039
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,300
a minute, wait a minute, John,
can we do the jingle now?

1040
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,140
Oh, this will be a pet peeve?
Yes. John Cena for x.

1041
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,570
Day the incomparable Jeff Smith,
everybody, the Jeff smith.com.

1042
01:00:36,570 --> 01:00:39,810
Great, awesome. Let's play it
after you're done. Okay.

1043
01:00:40,739 --> 01:00:45,659
So people moaning there seems to
be some issue with you know,

1044
01:00:45,659 --> 01:00:48,449
anybody standing up and
criticising or saying anything

1045
01:00:48,449 --> 01:00:50,789
about anything nowadays.
Everybody's been we're talking

1046
01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:53,399
about sheep people use the
market. You know, the goat talk

1047
01:00:53,399 --> 01:00:57,029
show host column sheeple. And
people use the term but everyone

1048
01:00:57,029 --> 01:01:02,009
does this. When I was a kid, you
know, in the 60s and 70s. There

1049
01:01:02,009 --> 01:01:04,439
was a bumper sticker that used
to float around and it was a

1050
01:01:04,439 --> 01:01:08,699
bumper sticker that was mostly
employed by liberals, Democrats,

1051
01:01:08,699 --> 01:01:12,539
progressives, you know, people
who are radical they wanted over

1052
01:01:12,539 --> 01:01:15,899
they wanted to revolution. They
wanted to legalise marijuana,

1053
01:01:16,109 --> 01:01:18,839
they wanted to, you know, the
Republicans out and the thing

1054
01:01:18,839 --> 01:01:22,859
and the bumper sticker said,
question authority. And

1055
01:01:22,889 --> 01:01:25,379
everybody drove around his
bumper sticker question

1056
01:01:25,379 --> 01:01:29,129
authority, question authority,
these same people, if you

1057
01:01:29,129 --> 01:01:32,279
question authority, they get in
your face about it, because

1058
01:01:32,279 --> 01:01:34,769
you're not supposed to question
authority, you're supposed to

1059
01:01:34,769 --> 01:01:39,299
listen to like, for example,
what Tim O'Reilly says, because

1060
01:01:39,329 --> 01:01:42,809
he's authority, and he thinks
the VIX a good guy. So don't

1061
01:01:42,809 --> 01:01:48,839
question that. So Riley, of
course, has 900,000 followers on

1062
01:01:48,839 --> 01:01:53,429
his Twitter account, I've got a
mere 59. He's got 900,000

1063
01:01:53,429 --> 01:01:56,459
Because he's in tight with the
Twitter folks. And in fact, for

1064
01:01:56,459 --> 01:02:01,139
some unknown reason, he's got
one of those qualified,

1065
01:02:01,169 --> 01:02:06,569
verified, authenticated name
buttons at the top of his site I

1066
01:02:06,569 --> 01:02:09,749
have applied for this. People
are copying me, you know, the

1067
01:02:09,749 --> 01:02:13,379
saying they're me and they do it
in the chat room. I'm under a

1068
01:02:13,409 --> 01:02:16,409
kind of a constant attack. They
won't give me the

1069
01:02:16,409 --> 01:02:19,979
authentication, but they'll give
it to Tim O'Reilly. And you

1070
01:02:19,979 --> 01:02:22,139
know, and then to also promote
him to get his numbers up. But

1071
01:02:22,139 --> 01:02:25,889
he's a he's an icon of
authority. And you don't

1072
01:02:25,889 --> 01:02:29,249
question authority. What
happened to the same people that

1073
01:02:29,249 --> 01:02:31,859
were running the bumper stickers
that said, question authority?

1074
01:02:31,859 --> 01:02:34,199
They don't question authority
anymore. They're a bunch of

1075
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:37,289
monkeys. John cedars borax

1076
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:44,910
brought to you by elbow. Hey,
John, I want to congratulate you

1077
01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:48,630
on I liked that. I liked that.
You know why it is? It's because

1078
01:02:48,930 --> 01:02:53,940
Tim O'Reilly promised not to sue
the government and vet Kandra

1079
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:57,060
over the use of government.
to.oh That's why he's in good

1080
01:02:57,060 --> 01:03:00,240
graces there. Because of course,
he came up with web 2.0.

1081
01:03:00,510 --> 01:03:04,200
And he Sue's people who use it.
Yes. Except the wheat. Yes,

1082
01:03:04,349 --> 01:03:07,349
John. I'm gonna send you a link
right now. Congratulations. You

1083
01:03:07,349 --> 01:03:10,199
did it. I didn't think you could
actually pull it off. I owe you

1084
01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:14,699
a full bar of gold. I can see
that you've put together a

1085
01:03:14,699 --> 01:03:19,559
wonderful crop circle. This was
this showed up on Woodborough

1086
01:03:19,559 --> 01:03:24,389
Hill, which of course is the
showed up three days ago. Which

1087
01:03:24,389 --> 01:03:28,589
is right near Wiltshire. Great
job. John. You're welcome once

1088
01:03:28,589 --> 01:03:30,959
again. Another This is a
beautiful crop circle.

1089
01:03:30,989 --> 01:03:33,929
The owl you like that? The owl?
Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was a

1090
01:03:33,929 --> 01:03:36,329
dedication to the Bohemian club.
Yeah. And I

1091
01:03:38,190 --> 01:03:42,420
Bohemian Grove. And it's really
good. I mean, all the detail was

1092
01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:45,030
there. I mean, I didn't think
you could pull it off in that

1093
01:03:45,030 --> 01:03:48,360
short amount of time. So it was
it didn't take long. Dude, when

1094
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,350
will you start just believing a
little bit that this is not

1095
01:03:52,350 --> 01:03:56,580
manmade people. This is these
things come right every day,

1096
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:02,010
outer space. From space. It's
not from outer space. I think

1097
01:04:02,010 --> 01:04:03,600
it's harmonics from the earth.

1098
01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:06,359
From the bowls

1099
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,010
my challenge still remains to
you my friend. This is a

1100
01:04:14,010 --> 01:04:16,020
beautiful one. And then of
course the link will be in the

1101
01:04:16,020 --> 01:04:20,250
show notes at No
agenda.me veoh.com It's just

1102
01:04:20,250 --> 01:04:25,830
it's just beautiful. Meanwhile,
of course while the government

1103
01:04:25,830 --> 01:04:32,040
is actually listening in on you,
while we're being screwed left

1104
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:41,070
and right, the big news or as I
should say, and now this will be

1105
01:04:41,070 --> 01:04:48,210
all over the Techo sphere apart
apparently the Palm Pre if

1106
01:04:48,210 --> 01:04:52,470
you're an owner of one is
uploading your data to home base

1107
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:57,420
including your GPS location.
Which I think is pretty nice.

1108
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,280
Why did they why these companies
dream this stuff up? And why did

1109
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,090
they do it? You know, it's they
always get busted.

1110
01:05:06,119 --> 01:05:10,439
It's anonymized. No one actually
knows who you are.

1111
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,410
There's a dot there, they can
take out with a black

1112
01:05:13,410 --> 01:05:14,130
helicopter.

1113
01:05:15,330 --> 01:05:18,060
But you know, this will be a
huge story. Everyone's gonna be

1114
01:05:18,060 --> 01:05:22,860
like, ooh, pool breather evil.
And all the other evil shit that

1115
01:05:22,860 --> 01:05:26,280
actually goes on. People just
don't look at anymore. No care.

1116
01:05:26,850 --> 01:05:29,790
No, but they're all wiped out
about their, you know, something

1117
01:05:29,790 --> 01:05:30,780
the iPhones doing?

1118
01:05:30,869 --> 01:05:34,799
I'm going, Gault. That's what
I'm doing. I'm looking for a

1119
01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:38,069
place and you might my plane is
coming. John. accompany me to

1120
01:05:38,069 --> 01:05:41,579
the hangar yesterday, my new
hangar at Oakland airport.

1121
01:05:41,730 --> 01:05:43,380
First we had to take the beef
out of it.

1122
01:05:48,060 --> 01:05:54,780
Bring along your bolt cutters.
But the plane will be ready. I'm

1123
01:05:54,780 --> 01:05:58,200
sure when I find where the word
golf gulches in the Colorado,

1124
01:05:58,230 --> 01:05:59,040
I'll be flying there.

1125
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,500
And I don't know. I don't think
Colorado is a good choice, I

1126
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:04,380
think is kind of a radioactive
state. Although I don't think

1127
01:06:04,380 --> 01:06:07,080
Wyoming is much less
radioactive. I think the

1128
01:06:07,110 --> 01:06:11,280
opportunities for hanging out in
Wyoming are much higher. I think

1129
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:11,940
there's more.

1130
01:06:12,090 --> 01:06:14,490
Montana seems to have some
interest in Montana,

1131
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,060
Montana. I've always thought
about these states. People go to

1132
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:22,440
Montana and then they die way to
is dropped dead. I think the

1133
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,570
place is totally poisonous or
something.

1134
01:06:24,750 --> 01:06:30,420
You know that when you convert
Google? Where is Gulf Gulch? And

1135
01:06:30,420 --> 01:06:32,700
of course I'm referring to Atlas
Shrugged. I know you hate it.

1136
01:06:32,700 --> 01:06:35,640
Yeah, here we go. There's
actually a lot of people who

1137
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,000
have built places where you can
buy property called Gulf Gulch.

1138
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,140
It's it's pretty interesting.
And it's got communities.

1139
01:06:44,069 --> 01:06:47,909
Well, you need a place you need.
You need about 50 acres some are

1140
01:06:47,909 --> 01:06:50,939
more someplace in the middle of
nowhere that has dead Skynet.

1141
01:06:50,969 --> 01:06:54,179
That has the right kind of
environment for a landing strip.

1142
01:06:54,299 --> 01:06:57,839
Yeah. And then you just land
there and you just park your car

1143
01:06:57,839 --> 01:06:58,589
and you know,

1144
01:06:58,980 --> 01:07:01,440
of course the trick is we need
to take all the great thinkers

1145
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,140
and producers and we need to
they all need to go on strike

1146
01:07:04,140 --> 01:07:06,960
that's what has to happen. So
you will get an invite John, no

1147
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:07,590
doubt about it.

1148
01:07:08,369 --> 01:07:11,099
But you'll be wanting to write
to the to the house in the

1149
01:07:11,099 --> 01:07:11,879
middle of nowhere

1150
01:07:11,940 --> 01:07:13,260
to go on strike. Yeah.

1151
01:07:13,529 --> 01:07:17,309
You go on strike. Yeah, you read
the book. Didn't you? Know, I

1152
01:07:17,309 --> 01:07:18,689
never read Atlas Shrugged.

1153
01:07:19,590 --> 01:07:23,010
You've been you've been
ridiculing me over over this and

1154
01:07:23,010 --> 01:07:24,600
you've never even read the book.

1155
01:07:24,750 --> 01:07:27,570
I read the Cliff's Notes. Does
that count? No.

1156
01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:32,160
At least listen to the audio
book. It's only 56 hours. Go

1157
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,750
read this book. John. This I

1158
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:37,710
don't have time. I does not I'm
gonna be I'll be I'll drop dead

1159
01:07:37,710 --> 01:07:41,100
halfway through it. And I'll be
so disappointed. It's a

1160
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:44,400
great book. I don't even want to
read the fountainhead for two

1161
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,670
reasons. One I like this one so
much to you keep telling me that

1162
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:50,670
I remind you of the main figure
in the book. So now the main

1163
01:07:50,670 --> 01:07:53,250
character so I'm already worried
about it.

1164
01:07:55,199 --> 01:07:57,989
Yes, you just somewhat
reminiscent of her type of

1165
01:07:57,989 --> 01:08:03,089
character. The big tall blond
Superman. Oh, well, no, I

1166
01:08:03,090 --> 01:08:07,080
do have to read it. I can't
believe you've never read Atlas

1167
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,610
Shrugged. This is a great read.

1168
01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:11,550
Whatever books you've read them
all. That's the problem. Well,

1169
01:08:11,580 --> 01:08:13,560
apparently not because we
disagree.

1170
01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:15,990
But how would you disagree?
You've never read The

1171
01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:17,700
Fountainhead? No. But if you

1172
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:21,150
read Atlas Shrugged, you and
I've said this many times on the

1173
01:08:21,150 --> 01:08:25,410
show it is written in 1957
happening right now. It is

1174
01:08:25,470 --> 01:08:28,920
exactly what is going on with
this with the previous four

1175
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:33,810
administrations. It's probably
been a build up for 100 years.

1176
01:08:33,810 --> 01:08:36,630
If you think about it, it's all
about really what the military

1177
01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:39,450
industrial complex is the
pharmaceutical industrial

1178
01:08:39,450 --> 01:08:44,940
industrial complex and an actual
solution to rebooting the world

1179
01:08:44,940 --> 01:08:50,130
I like it, you know, it's not
doable or not. It is not

1180
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:55,020
as easy as word of the day
ladies and gentlemen reboot. I'm

1181
01:08:55,020 --> 01:08:58,020
surprised coonara didn't use
reboot in his in one of his

1182
01:08:58,380 --> 01:09:03,000
stay tuned. Listen, I'm telling
you, we need instead of all this

1183
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,110
binary and COBOL skip logic
stuff, we've got to reboot the

1184
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:07,740
world.

1185
01:09:12,660 --> 01:09:15,690
I'm saying I would hope people
are by the way, we had a really

1186
01:09:15,690 --> 01:09:19,230
paltry bunch of contributions
this week. I mean, it was it was

1187
01:09:19,260 --> 01:09:19,740
for all

1188
01:09:19,740 --> 01:09:22,890
the work you did for all and we
you actually did do some work on

1189
01:09:22,890 --> 01:09:23,400
this. I mean

1190
01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:29,820
50 per shot. We weren't really
Yeah, yeah. 50% less. And this

1191
01:09:29,820 --> 01:09:34,200
is in in the face of the fact
that everybody loved our Sunday

1192
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,250
show. Yeah, I got a lot of good
comments as well. You know,

1193
01:09:38,250 --> 01:09:39,900
people who haven't heard the
Sunday shows you go back and

1194
01:09:39,900 --> 01:09:41,250
listen to it. And I have to tell
you that

1195
01:09:41,250 --> 01:09:46,650
I myself spent this past weekend
or Sunday night donating to a

1196
01:09:46,650 --> 01:09:49,890
lot of sites where I got where I
get information from $50 here

1197
01:09:49,890 --> 01:09:54,300
$100 There I think I probably
shelled out five or $600 just on

1198
01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:55,260
donating decides

1199
01:09:55,260 --> 01:09:58,590
Yeah, which is less money than
we got. Now the we got more than

1200
01:09:58,590 --> 01:10:02,100
that. No, we got no I'm So we
got, we got we got like,

1201
01:10:02,220 --> 01:10:05,850
nothing, we got like one or two
contributions for 50 bucks and

1202
01:10:05,850 --> 01:10:10,680
one for 120 and that's it. The
the thing you should note is

1203
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,380
that people either should note
is when I actually it's not a

1204
01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:15,930
bad practice even though it
takes a little getting used to

1205
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,290
Adam when he's on the streets
and there's somebody you know,

1206
01:10:19,290 --> 01:10:23,520
like a homeless person some
vagrant or a person that's just

1207
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,820
down on their luck asks him for
money Hey, buddy, I gotta get

1208
01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:30,150
quarter I got to take the bus.
He always gives them money

1209
01:10:30,150 --> 01:10:32,640
always use that he gives
literally gives everybody that

1210
01:10:32,700 --> 01:10:36,810
asked the street do five bucks
and always have the endless

1211
01:10:36,810 --> 01:10:40,830
smoke. Well, well, they always
say hey, man, can I have a smoke

1212
01:10:40,830 --> 01:10:44,370
say I never smoke here have mine
because it's all rolled up ready

1213
01:10:44,370 --> 01:10:47,280
to go. It's just tobacco. Right?
And they always think hard to

1214
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,450
join. Yeah, I always give them
money. Absolutely. Although I

1215
01:10:51,450 --> 01:10:53,670
shouldn't according to my goal

1216
01:10:53,670 --> 01:10:56,070
in England, you know, give
somebody money and they people

1217
01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:58,530
pull off, you know, pull the
cars over and start berating

1218
01:10:58,530 --> 01:11:03,180
you. Yeah, it happened to me
once I get so die. What are you

1219
01:11:03,180 --> 01:11:04,770
doing given that guy money?

1220
01:11:04,919 --> 01:11:07,049
Yeah, well, then these are the
people of course, who are no

1221
01:11:07,049 --> 01:11:10,259
longer counted in our
unemployment figures that once

1222
01:11:10,289 --> 01:11:12,929
once you're off unemployment
afterwards, after six months,

1223
01:11:12,929 --> 01:11:14,969
then you become a bump
statistic.

1224
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,510
Yes. You're not counted for
anything. Yeah, you're done.

1225
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:21,180
You're done. No longer a person.

1226
01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:22,200
I got a lot of

1227
01:11:22,230 --> 01:11:24,930
emails already finished that.
Let me finish the pitch and tell

1228
01:11:24,930 --> 01:11:27,300
people to go to No
agenda.squarespace.com

1229
01:11:27,330 --> 01:11:30,660
Give me the two the two names
who did donate let's let's shy

1230
01:11:30,660 --> 01:11:31,020
away.

1231
01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:34,260
You have to go dig them up now?
Because we'll do it. We'll do it

1232
01:11:34,260 --> 01:11:38,730
Sunday. Yeah, Sunday, we'll give
them their kudos. And then. But

1233
01:11:38,730 --> 01:11:41,040
the point is no
agenda.squarespace.com There's a

1234
01:11:41,070 --> 01:11:44,880
button there, you can click on
and then go to divorce.org/and.

1235
01:11:44,910 --> 01:11:49,170
A, we'd like to do three Shows a
week. We can't. And we you know,

1236
01:11:49,170 --> 01:11:52,290
we're starving to death. We're
not quitting the show ever. But

1237
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,050
the thing that you really want
us to avoid, like the plague is

1238
01:11:55,050 --> 01:11:58,200
getting sponsors to sponsor the
show, because that is a

1239
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,710
corrupting influence on a
political show like this is not

1240
01:12:01,710 --> 01:12:05,100
a corrupting influence on a show
that talks about gizmos and

1241
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:07,470
gadgets. And what happened in
tech this week, and the fact

1242
01:12:07,470 --> 01:12:10,650
that Intel has a new chip. It's
not that corrupting there,

1243
01:12:10,650 --> 01:12:13,320
believe me by Oh, you're talking
about Intel so much? Because

1244
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,670
they advertise No, no, that's
not it. On a show like this,

1245
01:12:17,670 --> 01:12:20,490
where we're digging into all
kinds of weird stuff, we cannot

1246
01:12:20,490 --> 01:12:25,440
afford to have any buddy sponsor
this show, you have to pay for

1247
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:27,420
this. And I noticed a lot of
people listen to this show. And

1248
01:12:27,420 --> 01:12:29,940
they listen to it every week.
And we provide something like if

1249
01:12:29,940 --> 01:12:32,910
you do the numbers, if you do
the numbers that we do three

1250
01:12:32,910 --> 01:12:36,840
hours a week of programming
three hours, people spend

1251
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:42,720
2030 4050 bucks, maybe more to
go to a two hour movie. And but

1252
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,330
the three hours that we provide
there, they are just saying,

1253
01:12:45,330 --> 01:12:47,760
well, it's free, those two
dummies can talk all they want

1254
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,520
and we don't we I've got no
responsibility for it. Yeah, you

1255
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,800
do have responsibility for it.
So go to No

1256
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,250
agenda.squarespace.com Or no
agenda.media.com. And I think we

1257
01:12:56,250 --> 01:13:01,800
have a bug there, do we? Or
devora.org/n. A and think about

1258
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,790
the fact that we're producing a
movie a week in entertainment

1259
01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:09,900
value for you plus information
and think about the 20 bucks.

1260
01:13:12,810 --> 01:13:15,690
Where's the 20? bucks? I mean,
we're not getting $1 We're

1261
01:13:15,690 --> 01:13:17,970
getting on average, considering
the number of people that listen

1262
01:13:17,970 --> 01:13:21,000
to this show. About one cent per
listener for

1263
01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:25,530
not it? No, not even not even. I
don't even think it's one cent.

1264
01:13:25,890 --> 01:13:29,700
Yeah, it's ridiculous. And you
believe me, the show is not

1265
01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:32,190
going to be any good. Yeah, it's
there'll be the two of us joking

1266
01:13:32,190 --> 01:13:35,880
around. But if we ever have to
bring sponsors in to pay for it,

1267
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,400
you're not gonna like it. I
mean, you're still listening and

1268
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,260
you're going to be stuck. But
you can only blame yourself for

1269
01:13:40,260 --> 01:13:43,080
seriously, we just need to step
it up a little bit.

1270
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,390
Now, let me give you some
information that will actually

1271
01:13:45,390 --> 01:13:49,470
be worth your donation. I
received many many emails for

1272
01:13:49,470 --> 01:13:55,020
some reason this MIT study of
the validity of tinfoil hats is

1273
01:13:55,020 --> 01:13:58,440
circulating. Did you get any of
these John because I blogged

1274
01:13:58,440 --> 01:14:03,060
this like three years ago, no,
literally in 2005 or 2006.

1275
01:14:03,450 --> 01:14:06,750
Someone found it again. It's
like oh, here's empirical,

1276
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:11,280
empirical evidence and whatever.
Let me give you some tin foil

1277
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:16,440
information that is actually
good. If you wear tinfoil across

1278
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:20,820
your chest, preferably with a
piece of cardboard under it,

1279
01:14:20,820 --> 01:14:23,910
you'll and you'll you'll know
why in a second. So a piece of

1280
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:28,080
cardboard on their chest maybe
maybe to your back as well. And

1281
01:14:28,260 --> 01:14:31,620
now this is only if you're if
you're going to a town hall

1282
01:14:31,620 --> 01:14:34,620
meeting for example, you might
want to use it for that put the

1283
01:14:34,620 --> 01:14:38,910
tin foil preferably three layers
of tin foil over that and gaffer

1284
01:14:38,910 --> 01:14:44,130
tape it but not too much. If you
get tased it will actually short

1285
01:14:44,130 --> 01:14:45,090
out the taser.

1286
01:14:47,730 --> 01:14:50,100
You have a website that
documents this yes I

1287
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:54,480
do. I do not have a video the
documents so if anyone feels

1288
01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:58,680
like documenting that the Taser
shorts out on the tin foil so

1289
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:03,810
the idea is first Do it on a
dummy. Right? So that well are

1290
01:15:03,810 --> 01:15:08,670
your brother, little brother
Mikey. So the idea is that Taser

1291
01:15:08,670 --> 01:15:13,770
darts go into the cardboard, and
they simultaneously are shorted

1292
01:15:13,770 --> 01:15:17,640
out by the tin foil. Apparently
it arcs out immediately and

1293
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,280
nothing happens. Of course you
still have to spasm around to

1294
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,020
look like you're actually
getting tased and you have to

1295
01:15:22,020 --> 01:15:27,480
say like don't tase me, bro. So
that's, that is some free

1296
01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:28,500
information for you.

1297
01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:34,560
Go walking around in a tinfoil
suit. Yeah, you're getting a

1298
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,910
taste. Yeah, you got dead on me.
Boom, boom, boom. That guy takes

1299
01:15:38,910 --> 01:15:40,470
a lot of shots and bring down

1300
01:15:42,210 --> 01:15:46,320
free information. You could we
could do another another maybe

1301
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,040
five minutes. John, if, if he's
I mean, there's, there's lots of

1302
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:57,060
stuff. What's going on? Actually
do want to mention the Gitmo

1303
01:15:57,060 --> 01:16:01,650
nation roundtable podcast, which
is I didn't know about this is

1304
01:16:01,650 --> 01:16:05,490
actually an episode number five.
Now, a couple of our listeners

1305
01:16:05,490 --> 01:16:08,250
producers get together on Skype
after the show. And then they

1306
01:16:08,250 --> 01:16:12,750
talk about a couple of the
topics from that spun, actually,

1307
01:16:13,140 --> 01:16:21,420
a Wayback Machine copy of
George. So Dinis website. Yeah,

1308
01:16:21,540 --> 01:16:26,160
so Dini, of course, being the
complete crazy programmer who

1309
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,810
went into the gym and killed
women. So we've all seen the the

1310
01:16:30,810 --> 01:16:33,810
website that mainstream media
attended us to or brought our

1311
01:16:33,810 --> 01:16:39,930
attention to but when you see
his his actual looking for it

1312
01:16:39,930 --> 01:16:46,530
right now, when you see his his
actual resume from what was it?

1313
01:16:46,530 --> 01:16:53,280
2006 I believe? Wow. It's really
laid out nicely. The formatting

1314
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:57,780
is perfect, perfect. I mean, not
not an idiot at all.

1315
01:16:59,550 --> 01:17:01,260
And oh, really? That's
interesting.

1316
01:17:01,350 --> 01:17:03,180
I thought you were on that
thread. Man. I thought you saw

1317
01:17:03,180 --> 01:17:04,170
that. No, I

1318
01:17:04,170 --> 01:17:06,510
didn't. I didn't see the old
stuff. That's interesting.

1319
01:17:07,740 --> 01:17:11,250
Yeah, one of our producers found
that so anyway, so links to that

1320
01:17:11,250 --> 01:17:15,990
as well as the gizmo nation
roundtable, which I think is

1321
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:20,910
Gitmo nation, or G. I don't know
what it is. I'll put the link in

1322
01:17:20,910 --> 01:17:23,670
the show notes. But it's on the
view. It's a pretty good couple

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01:17:23,670 --> 01:17:26,730
of guys on Skype. And they
they're all doing research. Here

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01:17:26,730 --> 01:17:30,660
it is. Get more nation
roundtable.me veoh.com

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01:17:32,190 --> 01:17:35,130
It's not bad. Well, I have one
piece of interesting news is

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01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:39,510
kind of goes back into the I
guess it's off topic for today.

1327
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:44,310
But that should be mentioned. I
think you should play the real

1328
01:17:44,310 --> 01:17:58,950
news theme. Now zombie ants
controlled by fungus. Parasite

1329
01:17:58,950 --> 01:18:03,090
manipulates infected ants into
dying where fungus prefers to be

1330
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:07,260
in a bizarre parasitic,
parasitic, parasitic death

1331
01:18:07,290 --> 01:18:10,740
sentence of fungus turns
carpenter ants into the Walking

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01:18:10,740 --> 01:18:14,760
Dead and gets them to die in a
sport that's perfect for the

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01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:19,710
fungus to grow and reproduce in
a spot actually, science have

1334
01:18:19,770 --> 01:18:23,010
scientists have no clue how the
fungus takes control of the

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01:18:23,010 --> 01:18:27,120
brains of the ants. So
effectively, I seen this Yeah,

1336
01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:29,940
but a new study in September
issue of American naturalist

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01:18:29,940 --> 01:18:33,840
revealed an incredible set of
strategies that ensue goes on

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01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:34,290
and on

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01:18:34,919 --> 01:18:38,129
this video of this as well.
There's time delayed video.

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01:18:38,129 --> 01:18:40,049
Yeah, it's kind of eerie. And
this

1341
01:18:40,169 --> 01:18:42,749
sounds creepy. My monitors got
anything to do with that man was

1342
01:18:42,749 --> 01:18:45,449
deaf, same function trying to
get control of the bats that are

1343
01:18:45,449 --> 01:18:45,929
killing.

1344
01:18:46,650 --> 01:18:51,660
Finally, from my side, loser
listener, producer sefer Aman

1345
01:18:52,350 --> 01:18:56,880
went to small steps.gov, which
we talked about two or three

1346
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,150
episodes ago, which are these
handy tips from your government

1347
01:19:00,300 --> 01:19:03,000
and from the Health and Human
Services about how you can

1348
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,250
actually live a healthier
lifestyle. We missed a very

1349
01:19:05,250 --> 01:19:10,380
important one John, we missed
number 40. Remember, this is the

1350
01:19:10,500 --> 01:19:16,770
these are the tips like get the
newspaper yourself or don't eat

1351
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:17,910
portion out.

1352
01:19:18,930 --> 01:19:22,410
Don't eat a portion of food
bigger than your hand down your

1353
01:19:22,410 --> 01:19:23,610
steak cars.

1354
01:19:25,650 --> 01:19:31,410
Number 40. Paste the sidelines
at kids athletic games. No, we

1355
01:19:31,620 --> 01:19:36,210
did that one. I didn't hear that
one that's like, act like a

1356
01:19:36,210 --> 01:19:41,640
child predator. Page the
sidelines at kids athletic games

1357
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:46,200
that will make you live
healthier lives. That's right.

1358
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:47,160
That's weird.

1359
01:19:47,550 --> 01:19:50,760
I thought that was pretty creepy
to say it is because it's

1360
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,520
exactly what you'd look like
that you'd be arrested following

1361
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:54,090
this advice.

1362
01:19:54,510 --> 01:19:56,940
But you can always print out the
webpage and say hey, man, I'm

1363
01:19:56,940 --> 01:19:59,160
just following orders. All
right.

1364
01:19:59,459 --> 01:20:05,429
So On my blog, since we're doing
a blog showdown, Massachusetts

1365
01:20:05,459 --> 01:20:10,109
deputises dentists to
vaccination I've heard

1366
01:20:10,110 --> 01:20:14,130
about not just dentists but for
pharmacists and paramedics

1367
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:18,360
pharmacists. Actually
pharmacists in California, many

1368
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,160
of them do vaccinations or they
do.

1369
01:20:20,460 --> 01:20:23,700
Let me at least do one more. And
this will be my final one

1370
01:20:23,700 --> 01:20:27,150
because I would like to say now
as an airman and a member of the

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01:20:27,150 --> 01:20:31,530
aviation community, I would
strongly advise you no longer

1372
01:20:31,530 --> 01:20:37,290
fly with Scandinavian Airlines
known as S A S, and here's why.

1373
01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:41,310
Aviation Group scandium
Scandinavian Airlines system

1374
01:20:41,310 --> 01:20:45,000
said on Monday, it has designed
a new landing method for

1375
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,720
aircraft which can slash fuel
consumption and emissions of

1376
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,860
carbon dioxide. The new
technique involves planes

1377
01:20:52,860 --> 01:20:57,150
gliding into land, following an
optimum route mapped out by

1378
01:20:57,150 --> 01:21:01,710
satellite. It could save around
100 kilogrammes of fuel twin

1379
01:21:01,710 --> 01:21:02,670
engine jets.

1380
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,610
Listen today, ladies and
gentlemen, we're turning off the

1381
01:21:05,610 --> 01:21:07,260
engines we're gliding.

1382
01:21:07,620 --> 01:21:10,350
Listen, this is the dumbest
thing I've ever heard. This is

1383
01:21:10,350 --> 01:21:14,070
what my grandfather used to have
this he would coast. He had this

1384
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:17,280
Volkswagen Rabbit, and we go
down a hill and he's pushing the

1385
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,130
clutch. He's like let's coast it
saves fuel. My grandpa is

1386
01:21:20,130 --> 01:21:22,920
fucking dangerous man. You've
got to look like to actually

1387
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,890
against the law in California to
do that coast. Don't do that. So

1388
01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:30,660
now they're gonna Coast your jet
into this is the dumbest thing I

1389
01:21:30,660 --> 01:21:34,230
have ever heard of dumb and
potentially dangerous

1390
01:21:34,230 --> 01:21:37,320
dioxide. It saves it saves
carbon dioxide. It can't be that

1391
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:37,620
dumb.

1392
01:21:37,650 --> 01:21:41,430
I feel it's potentially
dangerous. I really do. This is

1393
01:21:41,460 --> 01:21:44,550
This is dumb. And by the way, it
doesn't make sense because this

1394
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:46,590
is just this is just not how

1395
01:21:46,710 --> 01:21:50,790
a word control and of planes are
not designed for that. That's

1396
01:21:50,850 --> 01:21:53,400
that's called an emergency
landing when you run out of

1397
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,100
fuel. Yeah, that's basically

1398
01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:58,680
it. Ladies and gentlemen, we're
gonna make an emergency landing

1399
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,260
into our airport. I hope you
enjoyed the flight.

1400
01:22:01,950 --> 01:22:04,530
delay the fog of the foam down
for him.

1401
01:22:06,450 --> 01:22:11,400
Well, planes aren't designed to
do that, by the way. But you're,

1402
01:22:11,730 --> 01:22:15,930
you're going to Europe on
Saturday.

1403
01:22:16,350 --> 01:22:23,190
Yes. So I will be doing the show
from Amsterdam on Sunday, and

1404
01:22:23,190 --> 01:22:25,830
then the Thursday show will be
from another undisclosed

1405
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:29,790
location. actually going to be
away for two weeks, but the show

1406
01:22:29,790 --> 01:22:32,670
will continue even during my so
called vacation.

1407
01:22:33,930 --> 01:22:35,580
You're gonna be away for two
weeks or they're gonna be away

1408
01:22:35,580 --> 01:22:36,240
for one week.

1409
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:38,670
Really vacation for one week.
And then I'm working the other

1410
01:22:38,670 --> 01:22:40,860
week, but I'm in London and
Amsterdam. My daughter's

1411
01:22:40,860 --> 01:22:41,700
birthday. She's

1412
01:22:41,940 --> 01:22:44,760
gonna be back sit on the air
somewhere on Sunday. The

1413
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:50,700
following Sunday. Yeah, dude, I
wouldn't mess up the show. Oh,

1414
01:22:51,450 --> 01:22:52,770
get your comms. No, I

1415
01:22:52,770 --> 01:22:54,180
don't I don't want to hear the
dog again.

1416
01:22:54,570 --> 01:22:57,780
It's not the dog. The dog is not
in the room. Coming to

1417
01:22:57,780 --> 01:23:01,890
you from the crackpot command
centre embedded in my minimum

1418
01:23:01,890 --> 01:23:04,860
security containment cell in the
heart of Gitmo nation, West San

1419
01:23:04,860 --> 01:23:07,020
Francisco, California. I'm Adam
curry,

1420
01:23:07,470 --> 01:23:09,510
and from Northern Silicon
Valley, where it's turning out

1421
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:15,090
to be a splendid day. I'm just
finishing off my glass of sour,

1422
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,480
Sour Lemon juice. And John C.
Dvorak

1423
01:23:18,570 --> 01:23:22,320
will talk to you again on Sunday
right here on no agenda.