I love that lined put to death. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday August 9 2009. And time for your gizmo nation audio
publication episode number 120. This is no agenda coming to you
from the minimum security containment cell which houses
the crackpot command centre in Gitmo nation West still under
threat of eminent domain demolition. In San Francisco,
I'm Adam curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak.
Dragwon. Buzzkill.
The hell was that?
I know you were falling all over yourself. And so I figured we
better finish it up.
There's plenty of time that wasn't falling over myself. I
just had a little pregnant pause there.
I know I always thought there was. I missed the beat in there
because I thought there was a you said that and then there
would be some beat but there was nothing was just
Adam curry and then that's when you're supposed to come in with
coming from wherever the buzzkill bunker.
You won't do it again. Not necessarily.
Now. All right. Hey, John. How are you? Good. Yeah, it's gonna
be hot today.
It looks beautiful. today. Well, I where you are, it's gonna be
really hot in a city. It'll be just nice. And there'll be nice
breeze and a nice sun.
I don't know. It's hard to say. I think the city's gonna be
pretty much the same.
It was beautiful yesterday.
So it was a little it was it was good here. But it wasn't great.
I got a call on Friday from Did you ever hook up with taxi Eric
in in Amsterdam when you were there?
Yeah, he took me to the he took me to the airport
right now. Does this seem like a like a pretty stable guy
reasonable down to earth guy?
Yeah, yeah, he's a little probably multitasks a little too
much.
What do you mean? What does that supposed to mean?
Well, I mean, he's on the phone. He's on the radio. He's doing 20
things at once. Vacchiano was ran into a lorry.
So he calls me on Friday. He says, Hey, dude, you know, like,
my daughter's coming back from Spain. We have to leave on
Sunday. But you know, she has the swine flu, which of course
is called Mexican flu. And I'm really worried. I don't think I
should go on vacation. I can't leave her alone. She's like 19
years old. And he was really freaking out because they've got
this whole thing going now in Gitmo nation east over there,
where they have a couple of celebrities who have been
quarantined for four days quarantine. And even though he,
you know, I've talked to him about this many times, he was
still really freaked out. He actually called me to say, oh,
man, I wish I do. And you know, what's going to happen? And
everyone is now saying the media in Holland. Oh, you know, this,
Spain is the hotbed every all the kids are, they're hanging
out together, they're on vacation, they're all going to
come back and they're going to die. And I really had to talk
them down. It took them like a half an hour.
They were on the ledge.
He was he was flipping out. I was like, Wow, man. And yeah.
And he's pretty, he's a pretty stable guy.
So I'll just take much to get the public riled up. I mean, you
know if that's, I mean, the Germans learned that from World
War One. Really, that one of the things that
you win World War One, how do they rile up the public?
Well known speakers, the Nazis, specifically gurbles.
With us World War Two, John,
if you're not let me finish, sorry. The Nazis specifically
gurbles looked over at the propaganda that was developed
during World War One by the Americans, mainly because we
had, you know, essentially, were the ones who invented public
relations for all practical purposes. And we've developed a
lot of these techniques. And so during World War One we had put
out that fact you can look these up, I think, there many of them
are in the Library of Congress and elsewhere in their public
domain. And there's these posters, showing the Germans as
giant gorillas raping women, and just all this is really nasty
stuff to get the public all riled up. So we would buy into
actually going to this idiotic World War One, which costs us a
bunch of people and
a bunch, just a bunch of people
questionable to do it. You know, it was just a mess. It was a one
of the worst, you know, wars in terms of just bloodbath.
It was truly the Great War, right? That's what they called
it. Yeah.
And so the so gurbles is, you know, this is, you know, this
isn't that easy. He essentially made an art of doing kind of
doing the same thing in Germany, based on World War One, and how
the Germans were portrayed in the whole thing and that they
essentially created a propaganda machine. And it turns out, it
worked pretty well for a while. It works really well all the
time.
Of course, needed a lot of stupid people in order for that
to work, which of course is exactly the same group of people
who you can then turn it into a revolution to fight that.
You can. We're trying well, not to take a shot of adjuvant.
Before I forget a quick catch up, William till this Lee, one
of our listener producers out there, and then we were talking
about law and order and how they were all over the world wasn't
the measles vaccination. And that was that whole episode that
we discussed last time easels episode, we had the measles
episode. And we were trying to figure out, you know, what are
the ties? And I think I asserted that, you know, an expensive
drama series like this. It's not unthinkable that money's flowing
in from somewhere to to get these absolutely propaganda
scripts onto the air.
Right. I think when you really extrapolate your idea, I think
what you were implying was that the drug companies which right
now are I think doing it must be doing half the advertising on
television for these ridiculous. screwball restless legs syndrome
and other drugs would possibly be,
could no longer grow longer, longer eyelashes. Yeah,
that's another one. Yeah, who would take a drug for that? I
mean, it's just doesn't sound right. Brooke Shields,
apparently. And Brooke does it everybody can do it. But yeah, I
mean, particularly the news networks, just pay attention for
don't tune out when the commercials come on tune in that
moment, and write it down even. And you'll see that you know, I
think it's even more John, and maybe a higher percentage of
advertising on the news networks is from pharmaceutical products.
The under new during a news hour, it's, of course, one of
the things you run into on television is targeted
advertising. So they they try to figure out who's watching the
news. And you can kind of watch the ads and figure out what
demographic is primary to that show based on the ads, right? So
if it's all about every heads about,
it's all about Viagra, Viagra, you
know, it's like you're an older demo,
and you should turn off your TV quickly. Anyway, to get back to
the story, Dick Wolf produces law and order. And, as I said,
our producer William tiltedly, sent in, it's actually from
Wikipedia. So take it with a grain of salt, you must, in
addition to have to having been a classmate of former President
George W. Bush. Wolf was the employer of Fred Thompson, who
sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008. With the
help with the national attention again playing the district
attorney on law and order that connection we could have made
the the Fred Thompson connection. Yeah, we'll support
a Thompson as big as he did bushes, and has been reported
that he contributed money to Thompson even before he
officially announced that he was running. So there's probably a
quid pro quo in there or something. But
I don't know Thompson's got anything to do with the drug
companies.
Don't these guys all have something to do with the drug
companies? Doesn't every single politician takes some money from
a pharmaceutical company somewhere?
Well, yeah, and they all take money from health care
companies, too. But the I don't know. I just think that that
measles show us some rigged of something that was something
screwy about it. There was too much way too much propaganda in
there.
Have you been following the deal that the White House apparently
has made with the pharmaceutical industry? John? No, this is the
and the reporting is lacklustre at best. Because of course, we
don't actually know what was discussed in the Roosevelt Room
where Rahm Emanuel, of course, and I presume the President had
his have had their conversations with firma, which is this
organisation of the fart of the pharmaceutical industry PHR ma
they've dropped the A for extra Asel convenience. Here's the
deal, as I understand that the pharmaceutical industry has
agreed to reduce the cost of health care. So drugs. Actually,
they're doing a drug deal by $80 billion over 10 years, which is
okay, you know, I'm not quite sure what the total
pharmaceutical industry take is per year, but so that's 8
billion a year not insignificant. But what I
understand on the first of all, there's they're saying the
President promise promises 80 billion and you're hearing
Pelosi and other Democrats saying, Well, you know, we'll
see if it's remains at bla bla bla. So there's a little bit of
friction there. But the deal then seems to be that on the
Medicare side, there would be no caps on cod on pricing of
medication that the pharma industry could charge for
Medicare. What Yes. Yeah, exactly. And by the way, this is
from the president who of course, lambasted drug companies
during his campaign. And and now he's just sitting down and doing
it's a drug deal. It is literally a drug deal.
I'm sure that's not going to help these days. I mean, the
people that are moaning and groaning the most are Medicare,
Medicaid people, yet Is townhall meetings which have been turned
into a fiasco?
It is. I mean, yes, it is a fiasco. I'm not quite, maybe,
maybe I'm missing something but and I'm sure everyone has seen
this because this is this is the entire newscast is all about the
astroturf and you know, right wing groups and pharmaceutical
shills who are standing up and making a big mess of these
townhall meetings. But isn't that exactly what democracy is
supposed to be where you you organise and you and you and you
organise your your opinions, your thoughts and your side?
Both LEFT, RIGHT centre, whatever? I mean, can we
express them? Yeah,
don't ya don't we have the SEIU the unions are very well
organised, they might add with nice looking signs and in great
websites, and that
was one of the main SEIU guys is also the one of the main acorn
guys, by the way.
Well, what exactly is the SEIU
and nervous employees is service employer? Service Employees
International Union? Okay, but
who's in it? Who's a service employee?
It's the same people that would be I happen to be
is that after as well? Is that
after? No, no, it'd be the same as me. What asked me American
Federation of service is State and County Municipal Employees,
same government, state government,
don't they already have great health care government employees
know? Some do? Yeah. Okay. Some don't. Well, actually, that you
mention it as most SEIU people would probably. Yeah, they
would, it seems to me, but
most of them aren't. But most of them are government employees,
or am I misunderstanding that who who is who is a member of a
union that belongs to the service employee? What is a
service employee?
Is that a waiter? Well, let's take a look at their website and
see who they cater to.
I've been looking at the SEIU. And by the way, we missed a
fantastic opportunity. The title of the webpage, which I will
post in the show notes and no agenda amiibo.com is SEIU
Mythbusters. Called with H H. S. Secretary Sebelius. And this was
a conference call which we could have attended. I've looked for
audio, I can't find anything online. Of course, people jumped
in and, and I've written about it, saying that Sebelius who was
of course, is the health secretary, and Bilderberger.
I saw her the other day, by the way, giving a talk on C span.
And by the way, people out there we watch C span for you. Yes.
And I thought she was kind of creepy. No, she's
extremely creepy. Did you see her on the phone? I'll get to
that later. But anyway, so in this in this call, and I've only
seen transcripts of it. She called her brothers and sisters
to arms more or less, saying we've got to go, you know, bust
these myths, and the SEIU website seiu.org. You know,
it's, you know, they're praising the flag@whitehouse.gov blog
post. So it's kind of, you know, kind of goes against my grain
personally. But I just like to know exactly who the Service
Employees are and what they do.
I'm trying to see what what groups are to the problem is for
you, there's four major unions of service employees apps, me
and then out here to some like Cal summarise what's apps me
here members, American Federation of State, County and
Municipal Employees.
So it is all government? Well, that
they asked me is for sure, but asked me is like one of the is
not as powerful as SEIU, which is are actually harder to
become. When we were unionising, the air pollution district. We
were we were actually refused. They didn't want to talk to us.
And we ended up joining apps me because there was one on one Cal
sup brother can't remember the name and what were you doing at
the time, John? was an air pollution inspector. Of course.
This was during the last
good job, by the way. Good inspections, you really have no
idea. You clean that shit out. It was here before whenever.
Okay. So I'll let you slide. It doesn't even say who?
I'm trying to figure out who lived there. It'll be in here.
Let me I'm digging. I'm guessing it's like the post office. Oh,
boy. Here's a nurse Alliance. There's must be some nurses in
SEIU, then. Teachers. I guess the nurses really need the help.
So anyway, the point being that
somebody in the chat room might know who what who's
the point being that you know, so there are rowdy townhall
meetings going on, which by the way, I love you know, they're
not all supposed to be these orchestrated things that
President Obama did. As with people who have, you know, he
knows who to call on the questions are pre screened, it's
80 to 90, maybe even 100%. People who are who are for his
agenda when he's speaking at these, they're all civil and
orderly. And, of course, what a real debate about is, you know,
about getting in people's face and yelling and screaming. And,
you know, I do believe that there should, you should be able
to have some kind of order in any type of discussion. But I
don't know if it's really discussion where, you know,
someone stands up in front of the podium and says, here's what
we're going to do ask a question, then maybe does or
does not answer the question. People get angry people get
riled up. And that can come from both sides. But now to say that
it's being organised. I mean, the SEIU is just as much an
organiser of pro
Pro, they are more of an organiser than then they look,
they look very, very professional.
But then you get Nancy Pelosi saying, astroturf and I saw some
of them with swastikas, like, okay. You know, that's, that's a
little
guys, one of our listeners is in the SEIU, and he's a county
employee. So that's exactly why the SEIU doesn't just, I mean,
why are they for this bill, which is I think there's, you
know, the problem with these unions, because I've gone to
these, these meetings, they have these executive meetings, where
they where they train you, you know, so you can learn about,
you know, what you're how you're supposed to do things as a
union. And and lot of it has to it seems to be I think the
unions have been largely taken over by other interests. And
because they tell you, you know, they just almost corrupt I just,
that's a whole show. But, but it seems to me that, that doesn't
make a lot of sense for me for the SEIU and acorn, to be in bed
together on this health care thing when they already have
health care, unless it's to pull the health care, you know, is to
shift the burden somehow, to benefit somebody,
you know what it's about? Yes, I know what it's about. I just
figured it out
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs, let's vote for jobs.
That's what it's about man jobs, wasn't what the unions, the huge
supporters of President Obama during the election and they
give him lots and lots of money.
Yeah, but that's because the unions traditionally give the
money to the Democrats who cater to them. Okay,
how about auto workers? Are they in the SEIU?
No, no, that's that's the Union. The UAW was a member of that
too, by the way, which I think
was What were you doing at the time, John, putting doors on
Chevy's.
I've actually been in two different locals of the UAW and
tell me what are you doing? What kind of job was working on an
assembly line during the summer when I was a student in school,
right, putting
doors on Chevy's What was your actual
job? Didn't get the door job. What
did you have on the assembly line?
Tell me one of them was putting making these hose assembly sub
assemblies for for a, for a device that oil day, high
temperature clutch on an International Harvester truck?
Are those the ones that got recalled in 1973, because they
were blowing up because of some faulty tubing.
It wouldn't surprise me. And so that's actually a story there.
Because I was like doing doing this stupid game, you have to
blow out this gobbly goo that's inside with this high pressure
hose and takes forever. So the thing flies out, and a couple of
them got through without being perfect. I've been blown out.
And so that got called into the office. faulty product for at
the park door.
I come here for a second, I gotta talk to you soon. And
what'd he say?
By doing it? I had some faulty parts. And I was getting chewed
out. And I had to and also my speed was too slow. I wasn't
going fast enough. So anyway, so it goes. So I get chewed out for
this. But he didn't fire me and I went back to work. And again,
I just kind of upped the ante a little bit. And that's the year
by the way, I learned that the next time I was going to get any
job whatsoever is either going to be as a receiving clerk, or
an inspector, which I did the next year. As a matter of fact,
I became a receiving clerk. And that's the best job because
you're you are not responsible for productivity.
Did you have the stapler?
Read one. Yeah. So anyway, but then being finished the story.
So So I was always kind of irked by the fact that I couldn't keep
up the pace, because I was working as fast as I could. And
I was young, you know, I should have been able to keep but I
couldn't. Two or two or three years laters a big news report
about a big amphetamine bust at this place. They go that's the
reason you weren't taken go Awesome. Anyway, so that's
American productivity is based largely on amphetamines.
And thank you that's that's a sound drop I've ever heard one.
What come What? What fine automotive company was that.
But that was International Harvester. But I've worked for
International Harvester trail mobiel. And Ford, although the
Ford experience was was kind of sketchy, and they and they
affected showed up on my, on my employee break down, I didn't
ever hire this guy again. Because with Ford, first I got
this job at Ford, and it was a graveyard shift. And it was
doing some, some exactly maintenance. And then, but then
like the next day, this is, by the way, this during the summer
when you were going to school, and either in high school or
college, and you can get these jobs nowadays kids can't get
anything to do. Anyway should like the next day, I got a call
from schmira NOF to work on the set on the line of the bottling
line.
And they headhunted you off the auto assembly line.
No, no, I had to apply for jobs here and there. And then one
day, I got the fourth job. And then the next day, I got the
schmear enough job. So I decided I'll take both.
Now that's a true American right there.
That we're gonna we're both full time eight hour jobs. And it
just, it just turned out that the timing was just bright
enough that I could do both of them.
You can liquor liquor up on the graveyard shift and then hit the
the methamphetamines in the morning. And you were
well, I probably should have done it that way. But so what
happened was, I took that for gym work in the grave, and then
I go right to the other job. And I would work there and then I go
home and try to get some sleep. And I did this for about a month
making plenty of money. Because it was you know, these are real
jobs with real money. So I'm walking out of the Ford plant
through a gate and I had a white flash. It was unbelievable. I've
observed was I still remember it's just like a flash of white.
And so I think at this not good
is that when they took you up and probed you rectally,
so I got this white flash. So two days led later, I had a like
a full blown case of mononucleosis. Wow. And I had to
couldn't do either job, but I went on, on disability or
whatever. It's some full pay. I never did the rest. For
two jobs full full pay for two jobs.
I think I don't know if I got the full pay for the schmear
enough. I don't remember that because it's the state gives you
the benefits. I think you just get the one you get one big
check. And so I was getting the job. So that's why Ford wouldn't
rehire me because they had to get comes out at some fund.
Yesterday, you know, because I'm now employed in the US by by me
Do we have unemployment insurance at the company? Do you
know that? And all you have to do is pay the taxes over the
company pays for it, but you just pay the taxes or something
like that. And, and if you have orts disabilities, disability,
short term, long term disability and unemployment, it's like it's
like some huge big deal. It's amazing. You have to
di l employers in California have to provide these things.
It's but it's an insurance. I mean, it's not like you know,
yeah, but it's an insurance like 80% of your paycheck.
Yeah, no, that's good. Yeah, it is good. So anyway,
oh, I hurt myself, I have to stay home.
So anyway, so I had this. So I
Alright, so let's get back to these Daniels again. So I still
don't understand that I just don't understand who they are,
what they're doing what the big deal is, they clearly must have
see some benefit. And they totally understand the health
care care bill better than I do, or better than anyone else on
television can do explaining it. Otherwise, they wouldn't be so
passionate about defending it. So I'm just interested in this
organisation who Kathleen Sebelius calls her brothers and
sisters, and is calling them to arms to bust bust the myth. The
myth I should say, which of course is not is not really a
myth, because I believe that senior citizens are correct. And
we've discussed this and this is what socialised medicine is all
about, indeed, at a certain point, someone makes a decision
or there's a book or there's a regulation or there's something
written down that says, you know, you weren't the end of
your life, and we're not going to provide anything anymore,
except a nice way to to end. And even that, of course, is
questionable. But that's what it is, you know, you Where are you
going to put the resources, you can't keep prolonging people's
lives forever and ever and ever. When you need health care for
younger people, children who have their entire productivity
productive lives ahead of them. So that's the choice that's
made. It's very simple. Oh, and by the way, everyone who voted
for President Obama, saying, Yeah, we need health care. You
and other fuckers are gonna have to pay for it. And now it's Oh,
not my backyard.
I don't want to pay for it. 50 bucks. syntax,
which, of course, is what it's going to be, we're going to have
a base rate of 50%. Tax.
So, yeah,
yeah, so sure, sure. Right. So,
yeah, well, it's the way it is,
I live with it.
We have to. I mean, I have mixed feelings about the whole thing,
because our health care system is not doing this. I mean, if
you start looking at either the mortality, morbidity rates, the
children's birth, the mortality rates, and all the rest of it,
our numbers are not that good compared to any country in
Europe. There's not one we don't beat one country on anything. We
don't have life expectancy. That's as good as anybody in
Europe, especially the French. And we don't we just not even
we're not up to par We suck is because of what makes our system
the world's greatest.
I don't see I don't think it's the healthcare system. I believe
that is a different problem that we are eating crap.
By wood that that doesn't explain infant mortality eating
crap.
What are you talking about?
Of course it does. Okay, you're right. If mom's eating crap,
mom's eating
crap. You know, what, John, have we discussed? baby formula on
the show a couple of times? What kind of crap is in the baby
formula from China?
You know, China. Well, okay. But it The point is, is that we're
not number one by any means.
But I just disagree that it has to do with health care, I
believe it has more to do with how we live. And what we think
you are, what you eat, you are what you eat. That's just the
end of the story. And by the way, the European Union, just
the story just came in last night, I'm going to look it up
because I wasn't quite prepared for it. They have stopped all
imports of soy from the United States because of traces of GMO
corn in the soy. God. Yeah.
What's it doing in there?
Well, that's a good question. But it comes in through so they
they've turned a tanker around in Italy, or I'm not sure if
they've turned it around. But they've they've stopped it from
unloading. Same goes for Germany. Now, of course, this is
a problem because we need this to feed our our cattle. When it
gets to die, save that story. I guess I didn't have to look for
it again. And and, you know, after August, this supplier is
going to start running short.
Is that all you have to say?
One that surprises me?
Well, it does kind of surprise me because I guess not. No,
you're right. I guess not. But how does how does the corn GMO
genetically modified corn get into soy? Is that normal?
Some? No, I don't know that it needs to be explained to me. I
don't get it. Somebody just sent me a Skype message saying that
the Canadians also eat crap. The fact of the matter is actually
the kids don't eat as much crap as we do. And the Canadians, by
the way, kick our asses when it comes to morbidity and mortality
rates and birth. Dis they're all the rest of it. I mean, they
totally kick our ass.
I still don't think it has to do with health care.
I'm just saying.
Yeah. Okay. And by the way, you have health care that we
provide. John, we've discussed this, I have health care that we
provide. Does it suck?
No, it doesn't suck at all. But it's like, you know,
are you paying too much for it? Do you feel that it's too
expensive?
Well, it is expensive. If you pay for health. If you're like
an individual, it's extremely expensive. But if you're getting
it through a company, it's not that bad, but it's still not
cheap. In fact, I think the company I think a lot of reasons
they wanted to slaughter these companies, smaller ones in
particular all for this Obama idea. So they get out from under
this
which means what they have less profit or they are more
and more profit, the company is gonna have more profit because
that responsibility for healthcare gets shifted to the
government.
So at the end of the day, it's not actually the health care.
It's the it's the scam between pharmacy Well, it's a massive
scam. It's really a Ponzi scheme. When you think about it,
it's doctors who are on the payroll subsidy. prescribing
shit you may or may not need or maybe just doesn't even work.
Those prices are jacked up by the pharmaceutical industry and
they're insured by the insurance industry. It's a huge scam.
No, there's a fact a pharmacist we used to have down the street
here in Albany, the said that he noticed and he's like at 90 and
he said that he's noticed once the insurance scam began which
was back in the 50s and that's where it all went downhill
that's when it started. Yeah, it says once it began and all of a
sudden prices started going up and things start changing used
to be when I was a kid used to be able to have doctor used to
make a house call.
Even when I when I was a kid a doctor would make a house call
and And then I remembered everyone's saying, your doctor
makes house calls. And then we're still kind of making house
calls. But yeah, that doesn't really well, I wouldn't say
that. In the Netherlands. I think you still they've set it
up pretty well over there. There are absolute caps on what can be
charged for medicine and doctors aren't rich over there. And
they're in their socialised system. And it's been going for
a long time, but they're changing that now, too. They
just changed it, where, in fact, everyone's it's skyrocketed,
because now you have to have your own private insurance. And
you know, the fact that country is so screwed. They have no
idea. They'd like to beta test for all of this evil shit we get
over here. Speaking of which, just to break it up, John, this
has been circling around the internet's Vincent Xavier. Have
you ever heard of this radio dude? Yeah. Okay, what do you
know,
I made a clip of what you I know what you're gonna play? Watch.
We blog this, this is the guy who says that we're gonna get
bombed on you. I know that there's a bomb under Washington,
DC, and it's going to blow in October 22 or something like
that?
Well, why don't I play your clip then? Because I've had the
YouTube video here, which I'll put in the show. I don't have I
didn't send you the clip from him. Oh, really? Well, let me
let me play it for you his little bit.
And let me just say this to you tonight. Something that I know.
Not something that I believe this guy
like a Christian Broadcast or something?
Yeah, but he's only got two channels. Giant network. Well,
he's
got more than we got.
Yeah, we have more listeners know, that says, you know, yes,
we do. But oh, sorry. Go ahead. No, to my assertion,
does he have an am network or what does he have? Yeah, yeah.
2am stations someplace. Okay, but it's local. It's not big.
I don't know they're here and there
is in Washington, DC, an atomic bomb set in that city. That will
be detonated. I know that. And I will say it again, I love this
guy in Washington, DC. There is underground, an atomic bomb that
will be detonated in Washington DC that will level Washington DC
to the ground where there will not be left one stone upon
another.
Now, what's interesting about this because you you listen to
this. And later on, he talks about you know that God gave him
the date, which of course is like, Oops, okay.
Right, there goes the credibility. He
says I can find that thesis right near the end somewhere.
But then how can you confirm a great strike against the heart
of the United States? What chapter do I find that in the
Bible?
There you go. The when you think about all of these different
services moving out to Colorado there's a lot of movement going
on as particularly moving away from the Capitol, I think, Oh,
you never know. And I love the bit where it's somewhere in this
in this clip, he said and I'll put it in the show notes
somewhere in the clip he says it's not a good idea to travel
around the October 11.
Yeah, no shit. Well, I bet you that even though this guy's
nuts, and this is probably I would probably this is all
bogus. A A betcha bunch of people will avoid
all avoid it. Are you kidding me?
All the time. So that's no big deal. But oh, man. Probably a
good time to get a hotel room cheap. In
DC. Yeah. This is all the thing that's kind of bothering me. It
kind of got snowed under because of the the Twitter outage, which
is by itself as all it's kind of a weird story. Because if you
read on one hand you read on like Slashdot that it was coming
from the UK. And then you read in in more mainstream, I guess
Slashdot is almost mainstream. You read that it was coming from
Russia. And it was you know, some against some blogger who of
course, had a Live Journal, which is not exactly the same as
a blog. But it wasn't it was not a typical denial of service
attack is just just a lot of noise. And that, of course, was
what we were witnessing last week, on Sunday when we were
having trouble twittering. But this, this computer programmer
who walked into a gym and shot it up and killed three women and
then himself. GEORGE So Dini, if you've been following the
stories, you're here,
read the one item and I didn't go any further than that. Okay,
so
here's what's kind of weird about it. GEORGE So Dini worked
for K and L Gates. Kanal gates is a is a is a very famous very
powerful law firm. Who have you know, they've got former lawyer
I guess not. You're never a former lawyer, but they've got
lawyers. Who are, ah, they're all over Washington. They're
they're running the water. They're running all kinds of
stuff. And this, of course, is part Bill Gates, his dad's firm.
So if you know, I don't even think there's every President
has had, you know, conferences with them. This is a big ass law
firm do anything about caneel gates?
Well, I think the name was just been changed recently to that.
Yeah, yeah. Because I gave a deposition to that group some
few years ago, and they Lindos case. And they had to go in
there and get grilled by their lawyers in their offices in
Seattle. And I came away with a couple of very interesting beer
coasters with the logo on there.
Good scan them and put them up. Because I think these guys they
may they may actually be evil.
They seem like normal lawyers to me, but which means yes,
exactly.
So there's a lot of tie ins in this. So Dini was a I guess, a
senior programmer, computer programmer, for the company, he
apparently had recently had a promotion. And so this guy goes
into into a gym in Pittsburgh, and kills these three innocent
women then himself. And then, you know, all the so called
evidence, like his blog, which, of course, the mainstream media
is calling it an online journal. And if you look at George
sodini.com, if this guy was a computer programmer, and this is
what he called a blog, then you know, he should have just shot
himself first. This looks like such a setup of crap. And then
there's these YouTube videos that are floating around, and
they're really creepy, but it's not your typical creepy. No, I'm
gonna go kill somebody, in fact, quite the opposite. He was a
member of and actually, I distilled some of this, I was
trying to figure out, you know, if you listen, I'm going to play
one of these videos. Because this is, it's rather
interesting. Hold on, I want you to listen to what he says. So
this is the video that has been posted everywhere. And this is
supposed to prove that he's a creepy guy. So it's him in front
of a mirror in his basement, and not a mirror, I guess. He's got
the camera, I'm not quite sure what the setup is. But just
somebody says for a second.
It is easy for me to hide from my emotions for one more day,
take a long drive in the car, listen to some music, daydream,
or just do some mundane task around the house that really
doesn't need to be done. That's, that's not too important. And
there you go one more day, and one more day turns into one more
year. Now, rds says that I have approximately maybe 15 more
years to be successful at this. And when I heard that, I wanted
to continue immediately to start moving on this I didn't realise
so that sounds creepy, right? What's he talking about? Well,
so the clue here is rds that like right What is he talking
about rds? So not hard if you do a little bit of googling because
of course there's another video where he shows us by the way his
house is meticulous it's it you know, I think it was making like
like 200 grand a year this is not an you know, he had just
finished his basement he's got a computer in the bedroom a
computer in the living room cat five network through the
basement he's explaining all this stuff. So you know not like
not your typical guy
living in a in a in Idaho in a in a shack? No,
absolutely not. Apparently RDS I'm trying to bring up the link
here which is of course not doing too well for me. Shoot
radio data system there's
not another it's the name of an author. This guy was a member of
steel I think balls of steel or steel balls.com which is a how
to get how to date women type site and this these were videos
he made for his group you know so there's a fucking link isn't
coming up now. And RDS as the author of one of these books,
which you actually see on his table and he's talking the guy
was trying to you know, he would wish this link would come up God
dammit,
maybe should get a bill. There's a there's a clip. George Sodini
rds, the book is how to date women for men over 35 A book is
written by our Don steel, aka steel balls steel, aka rds.
Right? So RDS it just sounds like it sounds like this guy's
took taking it as a cult with with with rules that he had to
abide by. And then I guess he Well that's interesting because
that would be how to date women for men over 35 has got to be a
It sounds like jeez, I don't know what to look for me over 35
You just say, Hey, you want to go out to dinner? And what does
it take?
So then you look at his blog, I just just take a look at the so
called Blog, John. And this is a Senior Computer Programmer. And
I'm gonna give you so you can just click on the link in your
Skype, George so dini.com And it's like, this is not a blog.
Wow. Now, no one no, click no click on 1.0 Check it out, click
on the life
or death link on that page
will have a link to this on the show notes. Of course. Now you
see anybody who's listening to this string can just go to
George so dini.com and that
and play along so click on the the life, life or death, okay,
now, now go into the date of death. This is so I mean,
there's no I don't know anyone who would be this naughty, and
type in 20090804, which was the day he killed himself? Or maybe
he was assisted. And then click submit and then you get this
page, which has a page not found, then you didn't do it?
Right. Did you do it in the data? I
didn't write 020090804
which is his date of this
guy's a coder and he then he doesn't accept anything. He
goes, it goes dead. It doesn't even have an error message. You
go no, it's like the Microsoft Windows Error
page. George Sodini age 48 Date of birth 1960 date of death aid
for 2009 He gave him his own death date 510 155 pounds never
married. He's 48
So this is this is a basic HTML 1.0 page. And this just smells
like a set this is weird man. This is not anything any normal
computer even an abnormal computer programmer wouldn't
make
this right now what we're looking at on this page and
people should definitely do this
is this and this by the way is what the mainstream media calls
a blog and a an online journal which is hidden behind his date
of death
and so they apparently has an outline of all his concerns and
write to the with a bunch of bullshit entries that are just
bogus and and now he goes idiots he he apparently Andy pool
kowski has been the the target of his disaffection. I've been
in bar rooms and church groups. The worst people by far are the
religious types, especially a right wing stiff faced FundI
like Andy, condescending, demanding passive aggressive
person frigid, rigid, linear and totally inflexible. Being a very
serious this guy's got issues. The not Andy
Well, well, whoever wrote this makes it looks like this guy's
got issues now.
I kind of think it the whole thing was a setup. Yes, I
do. And I'll tell you why I believe that because caneel
Gates is huge. You don't you don't just get in to be a senior
programmer at caneel gates and what I understand here, okay,
here's the limit. I'm going to try to get you here. Hold on.
You're going to give us a kind of a Pelican Brief one of these
kinds of interesting things where something he knew he knew
something, yes, found out something. And so he was either
hypnotised programmed or something to get rid of him. He
had to get he had to die. Yeah. This all was developed around
that premise. Why, in fact,
John? Frank, I believe that he I believe that he had knowledge of
the Goldman Sachs trading programme. That's why I think he
had knowledge. And I think it was
actually a knowledge this guy can't even do it. Oh, no, no,
according to looking at this, you would you hire a programmer
who wrote that who set up a site like this? Come on?
No, the guy doesn't know what he's doing. He was a senior.
We'd have to assume he didn't do this. Because he probably would
do something that was reasonably cool. He would have done
something cool, right? Well, yeah, that would have been at
least it would have been programmer like, lots Exactly.
And by
the way, if you if you've used source, there's a couple of
things that are commented out, which is also kind of
interesting to look at. So yeah, he was educated at Carnegie
Mellon. I mean, this was a really, really smart guy, but
it's not like a guide. You just, it doesn't make sense that he
went that he went postal,
all of us right and he's got the thing at the end. He's got
miscellaneous He's got four statements, including number
four death lives. And then at the very bottom, he's got copy
this to use NET newsgroups, where my voice will speak
forever, with two asterisks. When do I use the whole thing is
asterisk, which is something nerds do sometimes. Don't modify
it. If you correct my spelling errors. I use the word pad.
Unless the names are legal or required legally be blotted out
then fine in WordPad,
so I would like to understand more because through this
occurrence, I started to learn more about K and L Gates. And
this is a very, very powerful, powerful company. They had a
couple of layoffs, two rounds of layoffs in the past six or nine
months. This guy stayed on. So you know, he wasn't some
schmuck, he was clearly doing something. These guys are not to
be underestimated. So and I see nowhere in the news, of course,
you know, there was so much about Twitter. When this
happened almost at the same time that it kind of went it snowed.
Nothing to see here. Show over here, nothing to see.
Look at that pretty fast. I got, I got there on the draw. That's
exactly what this story is. So And why can someone just go you
know how when when you have one of these so called psychos, who
goes in and shoots up innocent women. They usually go interview
people like people at his job. No, I've not seen any interview
with anyone from the law firm, the law firm, you know, no
statements anywhere. I can't find anything. I'm highly
interested in what he did. What kind of job? What were his
responsibilities? There's a lot more to find out about this.
There really is and it's just, it's just been been pushed away.
Yeah. Well, everyone assumes that all the information you
need is in this idiotic blog where he bitches and moans about
the fact that he's not getting laid.
And this essentially and this is where Google becomes completely
binary. There
are things out there called hookers. Definitely guy guy, the
RDS guy explained that possibility. I mean, seriously,
maybe he went to them when they said the service for you. Your
work for kn o games? No service for you.
Called the hookers did. This is another piece of fine advice
from John C. Dvorak. Ladies and gentlemen. If you can't get
laid, don't go to steel balls.com There's always
something called hookers.
Tell me I'm wrong.
So I'm going to do I've been doing a deeper dive into K and
L. Gates. It was a they merged I guess recently, they bought
another law firm. But it's interesting because they are
Bill Gates, his De Facto Law Firm, because I guess I guess he
owned a law firm and his dad owned a law firm. It's like
there's a
lot of Bill ever owned a law firm. He's not a lawyer.
Well, his dad, his dad is a partner in this. Yeah, no,
that's the gates. Right. But all I think a lot of the Bill Gates
business particularly the Bill and Melinda Melinda Gates
Foundation business runs through this law firm. Oh, I would hope
and I bet you there's some Goldman Sachs connections. Oh,
that's a long shot because you have no evidence of this. Well,
I don't yet.
All right, well, if you get it report back. But yeah, you're
right. This whole story is fishy. And it's not as
underreported and nobody seems to care. And it's actually and
it's a mass murderer. I mean, you think it'd be getting more
coverage? Oh, well, the coverage is gonna get us for gun control.
They haven't even done that yet. No, that's coming.
To find out he borrowed the gun or something. So he's gonna
they're gonna try to make it illegal. The lone guns out to
people.
So one of the keyano Gates I guess with a partner or junior
partner, will Estelle Stelly Estelle is on the Oversight
Board of the United States sea laws, which of course, fits
nicely into the the United Nations that taking over all see
all things see above and below. I don't know man. They're part
of the programme somehow.
Well, we'll put it on our list of things that we track
Yes, K mail gates, definitely something to track. It lets you
show me your clips.
When he went away. Let me take a look. What is the shortwave
thing? Oh, I picked this up on the shortwave. Play it over
services small step Tip of the Week. Tip number 50 to avoid
labour saving devices. This is a tip from the Human Services
learned to use some of the some of the crazy filters in
Mickey actually said hey, you know that don't eat portions
bigger than the size of your fist is actually not a bad one.
I like that one.
Honey, go get the paper. Please.
Not a bad one. Oh man. Yeah, that's one of the rules,
whatever the number was 51 or whatever it's 5252 don't use
labour say Making devices what?
From small steps.gov? Another $90 million website? Have you
seen that? grants.gov?
Does that another $90 million? Website? No, but that's correct
as 18?
Sorry, yes. grants.gov is a fantastic site. And you know, if
you want to help us, really help us go to this site, which does
get a great help us get a grant exactly. I mean, here's the the
subtitle of grants.gov, find, apply, succeed. And I'm looking
through it, I'm like, I can't find anything. But this did
bring me to speaking of the $18 million website to recovery.gov,
you just need to go there for a second. John, if you could, of
course, one of the main features of the 2.0 redesign. Is there a
mapping feature, which, you know, they're making a really
big deal about, it's somewhere in the middle of the page there.
It's right in the middle of the page. Yeah, click here, maps
track spending
right now go to go to the maps. So you get a page with four
maps. And one of them says investments by state investments
by recipient state recovery site, and then estimated job
effect, I'd like you to click on that for a moment. Wait, wait, I
can't find it, I mean, that Well, here it is down below
estimated job effect. So impact recovery.gov provides. So this
is your $80 million dollars or work provides estimates of jobs
to be created and saved in each state under the stimulus
programme. So then, you know, if you mouse over it, but if you
mouse over every single state says jobs created slash saved in
the next two years. So this is this is not
even saying that as much BS as you can possibly imagine, right
now scroll down to the bottom and click on the link for Read
description of estimation methods. This will kill you.
Of course, it's gonna kill my machine because it's a PDF. I
guess you need $18 million to drop a PDF file on there.
So how do they estimate these jobs? Slit saved slash created?
Which, I mean, it's not even a frickin number. It doesn't make
any sense. You know, you can you give me the created number and
the Save number.
Now, state jobs estimates are inherently more speculative than
the overall estimates. I need to have my shortwave radio stuff on
here, when not the time, they were constructed, detailed
estimates of state by state spending are not available. The
CEA therefore allocated jobs by state in three plausible ways.
Well, then you miss the most important part of the top. The
National effect of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of
2009 on employment was estimated using the methods described in
Romer and Bernstein. And then you go down and see the job
impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan Romer
Christina and Jared Bernstein now if you Google that,
there's actually a there's a link there. Oh, really? I'm
gonna see that there's a link. Yeah, I just clicked on it. And
I'm off to the races. It's another
PDF. But check it out. This is done in January. This wasn't
this was an estimate. This is this is the stuff that when the
President was still present, this is like campaign one with
Jared Bernstein. He is from the Office of the Vice President
elect the non existent entity by there there is no such thing as
the Office of the Vice President Elect. So
this is this is just an estimate they made before any any real
calculations were done and now they're putting it on this
website as if this is the fact is that this is what's been
created slash save through this fabulous stimulus. It's just old
bullshit data.
It's totally made up to thank you.
That's kind of my point. It's made up yeah, you're
worried you're looking for made up. It's made
up and then making a big deal about it. Unbeliev
and then if you and if you I mean, I could go on. I could go
on first
and knowing you're just making me interview irking me. I need
to be any more than I am good.
So anyway, go to grants.gov and the finest Grant Williams
because everyone seems to be getting one in San Francisco.
The Del Monte Corporation has two grants totaling about $9
million. I'm not quite sure what their grant is for pickles. And
pineapple.
Could be that I use the duck. I like to Delmonte pickled kosher.
Dill is a good product
not familiar. Hey in one, I've got one I've got you on the line
here, Johnny Boy. So anybody, here's something I don't get. So
the unemployment figures come out. And instead of 400,000 jobs
we only lost to 200,050 jobs. How can the overall unemployment
number go from 9.5%? Down to 9.4%? If we still lost jobs?
Yeah, because a bunch of people fell off the rolls. They've been
unemployed too long
so Oh, if you're unemployed too long that you're not you're no
longer unemployed
by that number. Yeah. Yeah, you're now bum.
So we should have a bum index.
Now bombs, basically the Wall Street Journal. Of course,
that's a Murdoch publication now it's like, the President comes
out and says, This is great. You know, we're turning the corner.
You everyone has a graph going down. And like that makes no
sense. You lost. You still lost a quarter million jobs. You get
this less joblessness? I don't understand. Doesn't anyone see
this?
No, no, nobody wants to see it. But the big numbers are in the
past because that's when they have the big Whopper show month
after month were huge. The first one you know and 600,000 and up.
So as those guys drop off the rolls because they can't get
Rosa you're talking about when the unemployment went away, it's
registered your employment for so long. And once you stopped
collecting unemployment, you're no longer unemployed you're a
bum. So, so country or what? So as the numbers as those huge
numbers that came in early, fall off the off the map, we can
still be losing jobs, but the unemployment rate will go down.
It's kind of like the EBIT, da of unemployment,
a phoney number, keep it all the time with companies that are in
floundering. They're using that data all the time as their
justification for how well we're doing,
right? We've got EBIT, da, we were EBIT da profitable, which
is estimated before income tax earnings bullshit before Yeah,
before everything before everything else. In other words,
you're losing your shirt. Man, so a horrible thing happened
over the Hudson, the other day when
my wife was open, you talk about it, because she was said, Why
are they having these people? You know, in the, in the
helicopters that are doing sightseeing on the same airspace
as as little planes?
Well, they share the same airspace helicopters or exact
same altitude. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's correct. I mean,
you know, this, this is reasonably safe. Something.
There's two things about this. First of all, shit,
unfortunately just happens. You've got bad pilots, like you
got bad drivers. And in this case, luckily, it happened over
the Hudson so it was contained to the the nine people for on
board of the Piper and five on board of the helicopter. What I
think happened, you know, the, if you're flying through that
corridor, I think the flight level is about 1100 feet.
Probably the helicopter just popped up, you know, he was just
ascending the plane, basically just flew right into him. But
the thing that was interesting, the New York Times reported on
this, and the story changed. I have a cached version, which
I'll put in the show notes. Because one sentence is gone
from the version of The New York Times has up now. And I'll read
the paragraph in the in the cached version, in dramatic
scenes glimpse by hundreds of joggers, bikers, strollers, and
apartment dwellers on both sides of the mile wide river, the two
aircraft appeared to break apart by the way, if you're jogging
you really you're not hearing it until the crash has happened.
Which is probably the sound doesn't hit you until two
seconds later. So it's just like a car crash. Everyone saw it but
they didn't really a wing from the plane and rotary blades from
the chopper and fell spinning into the Hudson opposite West
14th Street in Manhattan. Some describe the collision as
sounding like a quick Roll of Thunder followed by an eerie
silence now here's the line that is no longer in the online
version of The Times immediately after the crash. The power went
out in five counties but was quickly restored. No know what
so
I know where this is headed. Yeah,
EMP. I don't know what that's about. I don't know why it was
in the original story and has been taken out which counties I
can't even find any other references to this in Google
News.
This EMP has me kind of intrigued and so I want you to
play
EMP for new listeners is electromagnetic pulse. It's a
weapon which is probably much more effective than a nuclear
bomb. And then if in fact you can trigger an EMP event by
exploding a nuclear bomb at high altitude.
So I was listening to a discussion by one of the
admirals that He runs the ballistic missile defence
programme for the Navy and the Aegis programme in particular.
So I'm sitting by the way for people out there who know Aegis
is an anti ballistic missile system. And I want you to play a
clip to name a few followed by way, say it but first place to
name a few. I want to gently Admiral go nationally,
talks about Japan as the gold standard. We have lots of
relationships with countries on exchanging data and analysis of
what it takes to do ballistic missile defence. And we're very
proud of our relationship we've had. And I'll talk about who's
participating. Also, I would highlight here who's who has
purchased the Aegis system. Australia, South Korea, Japan,
Norway, the name a few.
So I'm thinking Norway. So anyway, this system works by the
way, and this is the system that they rejiggered to shoot that
satellite out of the air. I remember that. You mean the one
that collided? Well, they shot one out of the
Yeah, oh, yeah. No, of course, they blew it out of the sky they
had to.
So what am I system at 22,000 miles an hour. But anyway, so so
they've been listening to this as it's, you know, it's
moderately interesting, my daughter comes down and she
says, You're nuts and leaves. And then. So then I hear this,
and I said, I got to play this for Adam, because I know he's
going to be interested in this because it's, it's actually an
EQ and he explains how this thing works, how the system
works and how it can be deployed, but somebody asks you
kind of an offbeat question. And, and the guy makes a point
of not answering the question in such a way he could have it
because he ends up answering the question, but he makes the
statement at the end that I thought was weird, but So play.
Why say it? Thank you.
Yeah, sure. How effective you think that the agent system
might be intercepting missile launch from say a barge or
trawler a few 100 miles off the coast, or widen the Atlantic or
Pacific or in the Gulf of Mexico aimed at putting an EMP warhead
300 miles over the continental United States for an EMP.
I won't speak to EMP because that exceeds the classification
for the discussion.
So the question was,
how possible is it that the Aegis system could could take
out take out an EMP weapon?
Yeah, he answers the question. I didn't want to record the whole
thing. He actually answers that question. But he makes a point
of saying you can't talk about EMP but it's not really a
question about EMP is but he but he makes this he makes the point
that he can't talk as if somebody's going to check on
this. But he says yeah, you can take it out just like anything
else if you have your position right, which is buying these
these multibillion dollar systems that that sit on these
extremely elaborate ships and by the way there's the sea What was
the name of the Erie it's the Lake Erie or that there's one
ship that he kept talking about because he's one of the maybe
the commander of it. But these ships are they are just designed
to haul these anti ballistic missile systems out to the ocean
and he says they got one floating around Japan that is
covers the whole country there's nothing can hit Japan if they
wanted to.
Except for a typhoon
Okay, now the thing that's kind of interesting is is these are
Raytheon missiles.
Here's my question this guy is currently in service. Why what
is he doing talking about being so proud about we sold them to
all these other countries isn't he's just supposed to be doing
his job defending our country? Why is he is he in sales for
some reason? Am I missing something?
Like why is Norway buying this and what are they worried about?
So but I think the EMP questions the one that was that came up I
said, Ah, this might be what this whole thing is all about.
It's not about you know somebody I mean, because let's face it if
somebody like let's say Iran decided to send a nuke in at
Paris to blow up Paris, Iran would be flat after that. I
mean, besides the Russians the United States and all that we
have a lot of missiles you know ready to be fired? Still I mean,
we haven't taken them off line and we would just flatten the
counter would do would be nothing left them around so they
wouldn't do this it makes no sense but do an EMP attack is
kind of an interesting interesting philosophical so So
I wonder if because an EMP attack is is relatively simple.
You know, if a nuclear bomb detonates, it actually does kill
a lot of electrical devices in the vicinity. So if you have an
EMP going up, you can blow it up all you want. I think the EMP
strike will still take place because if thing explodes then
you get your EMP.
Well, the way this thing operates, it will hit the
missile before it gets to the apogee and it just blows it up
in flight into And then the bomb will go off
to fuckers this world come to John, what are we talking about
man's nuts? We deserve to die all of us. So
the problem is is that you know, it shows Raytheon's name comes
up the first thing I think of is those phoney baloney patriots
that were in that, you know, first Gulf War that were
supposedly blowing up the Scuds when they weren't blowing him up
at all. They did not one of them hit. They finally admitted that
in front of Congress some years and years later, but of course
they showed it on the news they showed the Scud going up and
then they show the the thing blowing up in fact, the sky was
just breaking up on its own
falling apart midflight
That's right. And you know, so this guy would go up and fall
apart and in the Show All Patriot took it out. John, look
out, look out,
look out we have an EMP attack. It's coming, it's coming. It's
coming.
So I think we should need to look into hardening our systems
against EMP In other words, what do we do with our computer
systems and our backup power supplies and our generators and
all the rest of it? So if there was ever an EMP blown up in the
area, what would we do to stay online? What I understand is
pretty much I need to surf the web and
well we have talked about this that part of the Smart Grid
might actually be for this
Yeah, I'm thinking it is
but there's pretty much nothing you can do it if you want to
protect equipment from an EMP it has to be pretty much contained
in a steel case. So your your chips,
Faraday cage work and somebody else, anybody MPs, if I would
have fared like for example, let's say you have a house and
you and you
like let's say you have a minimum security containment
cell,
you're placing probably totally immune. But could you put a
Faraday cage of a thin one in the in the drywall or make
drywall with Faraday cage cable? You know, just just uh, you
don't need much just like a net of wires.
I think you need like LED or something like that. I don't
think it's Faraday cage. I
think a Faraday cage will do it. I promise.
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure you need a lot more.
Well, I'm not sure I'm asking. I want somebody to tell us. Still
following the what do I hear in the background? John was a dog
that was once in and I can't do anything about it now.
Ah, let him come on. Let him in. He's
gonna be a pest if he comes in here and it's gonna ruin the
show. Well, he's already ruining
the show
because it sounds like he's like you've got him tied to a tree or
something.
Of course, the Blackwater news is falling off the radar. Were
there I guess three whistleblowers who are
testifying that
that's what you want.
What is that, man? That's wrong. What have you done to this dog?
basset hound. He likes to talk. He's not talking. He's crying.
He's like feed me feed me. I need some food. Please. Finally.
I've actually recorded this dog. I've got a bunch of clips of
him.
John, it's not funny. It sounds wrong. You don't own a dog. I've
had plenty of dogs. Not none like this. One, you took care of
them. They're
all right cover for me for one minute. Okay.
Gee, what shall we do? Can you still hear me while you're doing
whatever you're doing?
Take the dog out.
I'm not gonna cover for you, man. I'm just gonna cut this out
of the show. Oh my god
Let's listen in to what's happening in the animal kingdom
known as the Devorah compound
anyone's ever owned a basset hound. They know they're very
demanding.
That was awesome dude. So just two days before the Blackwater
employees filed all these sworn statements that the company's
owner Eric Prince, views himself as the Christian Crusader tasked
with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe.
And as in Located in murdering people who wanted to blow the
whistle on them the Obama administration extended a
contract with Blackwater for more than $20 million of
security services
look over here nothing to see look at
these guys I thought these guys were fired
they were fired or something you know what I don't believe any of
these stories now. There's something fake there's something
to something misinformation disinformation, screwball about
all this stuff about this guy and that company.
Well, Representative Jan Schakowsky of Illinois is angry
about it about this contract. Good. July 24, the army signed
an $8.9 million contract with the aviation wing of z. Known as
presidential airways. This is the this is the the private
airlines that that allegedly we're smuggling illegal weapons
into Iraq hidden in dog food. And this is for Aviation
Services to Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan. This is now here to
the aviation contract is described as quote air charter
for things and, and non scheduled charter passenger air
transportation. I like air charter for things. I should try
that on my next filing with the flight formula and my flight
plan. I'm air charter for things you watch how quickly I'm not
getting off the ground if you file a report that says that.
Yeah, minimally
unbelievable. Read the whole story in the show notes that
ended up me veoh.com
Why don't you play that clip I have coming to an end,
coming to an end here we go. But we knew
instantly in our hearts that the nightmare of our lives was
finally coming to an end
that was a John C. Dvorak added by the way.
You know, Wall
Street Journal Hold on. This is from DC I picked this up. One of
my neighbours moved out but his subscription still comes through
really free newspapers another benefit free newspapers.
So this whole story and let me see if it here it is. WORLD
NEWS. And here's from left Al Gore and Joel Hyatt cofounders
of Current TV and Bill Clinton celebrate the return of two
journalists from North Korea on Wednesday. And I love this
description. Let me see if I can find this. Okay. Hugs so there's
a sidebar hugs Pat's as rivals reconcile. So of course, there's
always some tension between Al and bill. Mr. Gore, whose
current TV employs the reporters applauded as Mr. Clinton climb
down the steps at Bob Hope airport airport in Burbank,
California. At first they seem destined for a routine
handshake. But Mr. Clinton pulled Mr. Gore into a bear hug.
Mr. Gore hesitated just a moment his left hand suspended above
Mr. Clinton shoulder blade before it descended into a to
Pat man hug. Mr. Clinton matched him raised him a third Pat added
to right hand and strokes and three more Pat's before they
disentangled. Yeah, five seconds after their chest met Mr.
Clinton turn to join the journalist emotionally in the
journal. This is the Wall Street Journal. I need some like, let
me see do I have I wish I hit the
real news clip.
And now back to real. Mr. Gore, whose current TV employs the
reporters applauded as Mr. Clinton climbed down the steps
of Bob Hope airport in Burbank, California. At first, they seem
destined for routine handshake. But Mr. Clinton pulled Mr. Gore
into a bear. Mr. Gore hesitated just a moment. His left hand
suspended above Mr. Clinton shoulder blade before it
descended into a two pad, man. Mr. Clinton matched him raised
him a third bat added to right handed strokes and three more
Pat's before they disentangle. Sorry,
I think you nailed it.
Yes. Kind of horny. I got turned on by myself for a second. So
the final so the journalist reunite with families in the US
this whole story about you know how wonderful blah blah blah,
no, no, written Of course, it's now Murdoch publication. Nothing
at all about the fact that these two journalists were on
assignment and across the border illegally to go get a story but
the final paragraph, the final final paragraph of this whole
page. The detention and release of the women have brought much
attention to Current TV, which has struggled to broaden its
audience. It's since it was launched four years ago, the
company had been preparing for a $100 million Initial Public
Offering but recently cancelled these plans.
So I'm because no anyone has subscribed to Turkey.
Yeah, I'm telling you this is this was a PR move for current
and and a great PR move for Kim Jong Il. Yeah. Yeah, of course
you'd like to do.
A Of course, they had a shitting grin on his face the whole time.
Well, of course, because
they've shut down all media in North Korea. He thought that he
was actually getting the current president of the United States
he didn't realise that Bill Clinton is no longer president.
When he doesn't really care. The point the thing is a divided by
the girls were never in prison. They were in a hotel. Hotel.
Exactly. Room service.
So people have been giving me flack for that. Why? Oh, man,
you shouldn't be laughing at that shit, man. That's not
right. That's the right man. Man,
the one who was whining in the coming to an end clip. Let's
play it again. By the way, just like the way her voice says
Trump Molo.
Oops, sorry. I blew that my mistake here we go.
We knew instantly in our hearts that the nightmare of our lives
was finally coming to an end
jobs jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs.
So the worst thing the worst thing about their their
imprisonment in in in North Korea, John you know what it
was? What no service for you. There was no room service.
Oh, there wasn't so anyway, she sounds like Edith PF
does sound like a tip off? Yeah. Which is the correct
pronunciation
so anyway, so they had her on Current TV so I flipped on
Current TV and watched it so the publicity stunt worked for me
and it's a dreadful dreadful stuff so they decided to show
some of her old stuff and a special you know, she's like
this you know,
she'll she'll be on CBS 60 Min Oh, Pulitzer.
Sugar Pulitzer now anyway, so this your author she was showing
sneaking into you know, parts of Turkey she's not supposed to go
to and, and in the current area of
journalism, why don't you go sneak into the White House?
Okay, sneaking around the manuals office, then I'll
applaud you.
So she's sneaking around and so Oh, no, we we use an accident
that we got caught. Yeah, it was an accident got caught. What do
you think you're doing? It just doesn't make any sense. So what
are you going to find out that that we don't know? Well, I
don't know. It's just annoying. I find her annoying. And I find
people that that can't see through this to be annoying to
anyway, so that's the kind of thing we do. By the way. I do
want to I do have one pet peeve. I think I'm gonna do one a week.
Okay. It's just a minor pet peeve. It just bugs me. Play the
friends clip.
Is this from the TV series Friends? Yeah. It's a clip from
the show. Is that show still in production? No,
no, no, it's just on ultimate reruns.
Oh, sure. Well,
let me think. What do I want? What do I want?
Please take your time. It's an important decision not like say,
I don't know deciding to marry someone. This is about a muffin.
blueberry, blueberry it is.
Okay, what is the deal with canned laughter? It's steak
stinks. It ruins the show. If people would watch 30 rock which
is a good comedy has no canned laughter No. phoney audience
nothing.
No one watches it.
It's a huge hit. Are you kidding? No, it's
not it is not a huge hit. It has received many accolades and
awards. Exactly. The opposite is true. And Tina Fey jokes about
this all the time. Their numbers are actually quite
low. Well, people should watch the show
they need to put some canned laughter in so that they get
some real numbers.
This is not the point in my argument to have you take the
other side of canned laughter
But Hi come from this world this is that people are so
conditioned. When you hear the laughter It actually triggers
laughter in yourself. That's what this horrible canned
laughter that they put in after the just says the word blueberry
muffin and a bunch of people Twitter, or you know, Twitter,
I'm sorry, Twitter. They tear it so funny, which is some guy
turning the knob up and down. Or you know, there's different
kinds of knobs they got the thing down to a fine art. Now
you got you know, almost individual laughs and stuff you
can control. But it's like I find it this And I think it's
distracting. It's annoying, and I think it's insulting.
You need to look at America's Funniest Home Videos. That's
where they really do the canned laughter. And it is insulting
and but it's insulting to you. And only you because this is
this is insulted by this. No, I'm not insulted. I don't give a
shit. I don't watch that crap is because it's below my
intelligence level, John. So this has been going on TV shows
reality TV shows, if there depends on what kind of it's the
unscripted drama, there is no audience so there's no canned
laughter.
They need a laugh track. Let's take one of these shows and put
a laugh track down and see if it improves it.
Of course, again, when you're not watching it, it becomes that
much. That much more apparent. How can that is? Let's listen
again. Oh, sure. Well, let me think. What do I want? Turn it
up right there do I want you can actually, it's hilarious.
Sometimes they will, you know, they record these, these
laughters usually they record it right before the show was taped.
And they have Everyone applauded and laugh and they have
comedians come out and tell jokes. They actually record the
audience really laughing. But they'll use it sometimes you'll
hear like there'll be one woman ago. You'll hear that over and
over and over again in the candlelight.
Take your time. It's an important decision. Not like
say, I don't know deciding to marry someone. This is about a
muffin. blueberry, blueberry it is.
But this has been going on since the 50s. John, there's nothing
I hate. I just said it's a pet peeve. I wanted to bring it up.
I was just flipping around. I turned off Current TV. And of
course, I was highly annoyed by that. And so when I turn this
on, I saw this. This is really I can't take it. So I had to
record this and complain. Just a moment of complaint.
That's cool. Keith Ray, one of our producers sent us a fabulous
offer, which I will put in our show notes because any one of
our producers may want to jump on this. It's a great deal
American Airlines flight to Moscow $199. One way.
One way I like that one way, this probably a good time of the
year to go to Moscow, or mosque as a Moscow or Moscow McBath.
Yeah, well, that's probably what it really is. So I think it's
about time we discuss some of the benefits of contributing to
this show.
Yes, let me let me bring up. Can I do a couple of the women here?
Let me rephrase that. Can I read some of the guys from our feet
from our female donators? Sure. Okay. Tanya Wyman donated
$161.80, of course, thank you very much. Here's what she says.
Thanks so much for bringing us the real real news twice a week
every week just made my second donation a bit late for Sunday
show but I was delayed prepping a batch of crock pot, chilli
August in New York City, but it's actually a bit chilly here
for August Anyway, go figure. And we this time, it's in the
amount of $161.80, which does mean something I'll give you a
couple of hints. It's related to fractals, and the decimal point
is two places off. John, can you figure it out? 161 80. And it's
related to
161 So it'd be 100 when it says two places off, which means it's
either 1.618 or 16180 point 16180 Which is what it has to be
it has to go that way because otherwise it makes no sense. You
could have given us 16 bucks, so it would be 16180 So I would
assume it's a date, like 1/16 of January but that would be a
European style of dating so it wouldn't be that it would be 161
ad I don't know what do you got? I don't have anything Oh, well
maybe somebody in the chat room configured this I'm gonna
actually go look at the chats as they come in.
She does say she hopes to become another female night at some
point at least on the on the layaway programme. And she says
if you guys do the no agenda dinner in New York City I'm
definitely there. Cool.
Okay, we got a well put the mailing list thing up this week
for the for the dinner so people can go to No
agenda.squarespace.com and then put them name on the mailing
list or then go to divorce act.org/n A.
And this one. I liked a lot this email from Eleanor Schultz,
Aloha John and Adam. I am a listener a producer who is
coming to you from a grass hut in Gitmo nation Mid Pacific on
Oahu, Hawaii. My boyfriend turned me on to your show a few
months back and I've been hooked ever since we have a blast
listening to the jingles amidst the theories, conspiracies and
truths surrounding all things Gitmo Look, let me be clear on
why I'm tossing you my donation for the armoury winery library
and Lynn Guiza sausage wreath, which by the way is the
unofficial state sausage. We call it Portuguese sausage. My
boyfriend John Foley is celebrating his birthday on
August 12. It's a bit hard to buy a gift for him, so I figured
I'd give a gift in his name. To add to something we both enjoy.
My donation of $69.40 represents his birth year and his age, born
in 1969. Turning 40 I hope this is enough a donation to allow a
quick Happy Birthday during your donation shout outs thank you
both for your insight, commentary and wit and keeping
up the great work. In the meantime, we will be searching
for the long lost Obama birth certificate and hunkering down
in our bunkers to avoid to to the islands from Kim Jong Il
while voting for jobs. Yay. Jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
By the way, yeah,
so together, we should just say happy birthday. John Foley
wouldn't want to do it. Yeah. 123 Happy birthday, John. John
Foley
doesn't work with Skype, does it?
No, not at all. But it's pretty funny, I'm sure. So somebody
says that 1.61 is is phi which is constant. I never heard of
phi phi, phi pH. I guess it's not pi phi. I don't know what
phi is. It'd be nice to be explained it. The name of some
constant Well, here are some other people that gave us some
funding. Per new producers Adam per bola. $50. She's in
Bensenville Illinois. By the way Eleanor shelters is in WIA Nia,
which is like a really nice little town. Adam, Preble.
parola or Puebla, Bensenville Illinois, a Joe a wiener D W. e
i n ad why in Bowling Green, Ohio again we have Americans,
Travis, Travis then he's 50 and Travis when you're everybody's
51 Travis when is in Hemet, California. 50. Tres Tristan
Lennon, which is a this is a second donation of 50 from Wagga
Wagga New South North something southwest territory somebody
Australia as the name of the town yeah, thanks
Chris. Appreciate the second donation man that's cool.
Jeff Baron in Woodstock, Georgia. He actually has power
there and then we have to Why are you insulting people like
that? Keeping us
on the air and you're insulting them
oh it's just Woodstock seems like like out there out there
place. I live in Woodstock Georgia. We got a Roman lives
it's I think it's live them off. It's LIU BEI mo ve who's in vol
vode Switzerland, which I believe is one of those places
that it's like a shot I think one of these places where
there's a lot of famous rich people staying How do you spell
it? VA Ud?
vode probably a lot of on unknowingness Yeah, rich people.
Well, they would say that there's some something going on
because he gave us two donations. 150 But it just to
make his point and he gave us a number $19.17 which I think is
when the IRS was invented right 1917 I
don't know. I wasn't around them.
I was just a kid. Johnny but anyways, thanks. That's good.
Thanks for the donation Roman. Johnny Santos 50 Peter Smilla
cough Smilla cough did I didn't have him I think I hadn't before
Galloway, Ohio 5744 Matthew Belmar by the way anyone who
contributes like during these hours sometimes will get
mentioned twice. It goes to Belmar Woolcott, Connecticut
$50. John to read our Terada in Pasadena 50. And that's about
it. Now I want
more from Matthew Wilson who sent us an interesting number
$78.65 And he actually explains what it is. Can you guess
$78.65 78? No. Okay. 78 is the ASCII decimal number for N and
65 is ASCII decimal number for a Oh cute. I like cute. Yeah,
thank you very much. Yeah, we
never gets that stuff. New South Wales by the way to it NSW
stands for anyway. Australia. To me like coughs 5744 is not
explained. Do we have any idea what that is? 5744 6740 Oh, no,
nevermind. This was an old one. That's right. That's our two
ages supposedly. DS getting way too much crap.
Incorrect. You are 5744 Right on the money you wish
to win. If you really wanted to say in that amount it is 6544 65
Bull 64, then no.
You all you have to do is look it up in the New York Times.
Exactly.
Bring John, I have an important message for you. Okay, because
it will not put seniors in a position of being put to death
by their government.
That's just for you.
I need that clip. So I can I have that clip. At the end. I
want to put the yea at the end of that one.
I just wanted to mention, forget wait before
you mentioned anything. Both Michael Atkinson and Korean from
Holland, Michael Atkinson. And particularly he's recording he's
in Korean. He's in Namibia, and he knows how to do crop circles.
He says that particular one that we're talking about is easy to
do. And he has all the geometrics, he says, he says
done with ropes. And he says you do the stakeout. And he says
it's much easier to do these things at night because you can
use the cars flashlights can be used as as methodologies for
creating a straight line that you can't do during the day. And
he says they're brain dead easy. He said three, four hours you
get one of those done and is it green in Holland, Karina in
Holland mentioned that the Firefox logo was done. And she's
turned me on to three or four people who did it. And she said
that they can easily copy this stuff. And so the question is,
are you going to put up for under $50,000. For this
challenge,
John, invest in a plane ticket, you've got 15 hours, you can do
it in broad daylight you can do with your flashlights, I want a
replica of what is taking place in a wheelchair. And go ahead
and you can go do go
ahead and try to rush the gold bar from your cold dead hands.
new guidelines and rules for the media in Ireland, as we have the
do over of the Lisbon Treaty referendum vote coming up. They
are now in effect. As of last Friday, two changes had been
made to the guidelines that were implemented following
consideration of the guidelines that the BCI board the
broadcasting commission of Ireland put into place. They're
intended to clarify the means by which broadcasters allocate air
time during the period when the guidelines and proper are in
operation. So this is how they're doing it. There's no
requirement to allocate an absolute equality of airtime to
opposing sides of the referendum debate during editorial
coverage. The guidelines require broadcasters to ensure that the
proportion of airtime allocated to both sides, and it must be
fair to all interests and undertaken in a transparent
manner. Okay, that sounded to me like wasn't fair. And then
secondly, the guidelines clarify the requirements to ensure that
the total time allocated to political party broadcasts will
result in equal airtime being afforded to parties that support
the referendum proposals and those that oppose them. So if
it's editorial coverage, it's free for all but if it's actual
political party broadcasts, and often with state run media, you
know, political parties get time allocated to them, which I think
I think that's pretty much standard that will have to
remain on equal time allocation. But no requirement to allocate
an absolute equality of airtime to opposing sides of the
referendum debate during editorial coverage, in other
words, slanted as you will. And that's now the rules. So I guess
we've got a yes vote coming up.
Yeah, well, eventually, we just keep running it by I'm pretty
sure to do one at midnight on Sunday. And, you know, see what
happens. So Feigen bombs constant is what this is
supposed to be that fi but I'm looking at the Wikipedia. That's
just one of those things. I love it. What's it used for? Anyway?
Okay.
So you have Eclipse less than nothing? Yeah, we can
use random next time.
What's the V veck? thing?
Well, there's this guy that's there. See, the CIO of the US v.
Vic.
What is the v vic?
Well, that's it. I think it'd be better because I it's a whole
rant that.
Okay, you want to do that next time, then perhaps?
Yeah, this is what's his name? Vivek Kundra, who is this
Federal Chief Information Officer. So
I saw that I saw that panel they were doing on C span. That guy's
an idiot. He's a total dweeb. He's like one of these Silicon
Valley jackasses in Dockers that walks around and talks about one
day imagine we'll have a holodeck and you can actually
just say computer make it look like this. Yeah, did
he actually did that?
I saw that. I'm telling you. We've been watching C span at
the same time again. John, why don't you just come over here
and live with me? Do you have that? I didn't hear you. I do.
Hey, Mimi, did you hear that?
She'll give me crap about it later.
You don't you don't have that. That extra clip, do you?
I don't have the I might have the holodeck when I got too
close. But I got a few more lined up so I'd be better if we
talked about him next week, get
the holiday clip because that's just hilarious. And that guy's a
total dork. He's like an Indian. Anthony Robbins
is terrible. And he says weird stuff. In fact, his sentences
make no sense. And he just rambles about
a bunch of buzzwords, and he rambles and
rambles and then he winds up his point and everyone's the
audience is like, Hmm,
at the end, his last final point, there were two two real
geeks that were that were kind of sitting there at the at the
books at the on the panel and they were looking at each other
like, is this guy insane?
Answer. Yes,
he is completely insane. V vac. That's right. I saw that exact
thing about broad the broadband bill or something incredibly
important. We have broadband. Yeah. All right. All right, bro.
Thanks. Cool job. Good gig. See on the holodeck coming to you
from the minimum security containment cell, which houses
the crackpot command centre in San Francisco Gitmo nation West.
I'm Adam curry.
And from Silicon Valley North then with a reminder to try to
get us some grants, go to divorce.org/na and try to give
us some funding. We need it. And also sign up for one of our
fabulous dinners that we're going to do probably first in
Las Vegas. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll
talk to you again on Thursday with another episode of no
agenda.