1 00:00:01,290 --> 00:00:04,470 It's time once again for the programme that has no music, no 2 00:00:04,470 --> 00:00:09,030 jingles, no commercials, no direction, no agenda, and of 3 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:12,720 course, no talent in the United Kingdom, I'm Adam curry. 4 00:00:13,439 --> 00:00:15,749 I'm John C. Dvorak up here in northern California. 5 00:00:15,810 --> 00:00:17,280 Hey, John, how you doing today? 6 00:00:18,270 --> 00:00:19,560 Good. It's a nice sunny day. 7 00:00:19,710 --> 00:00:22,530 Yeah, we had a beautiful we had a beautiful day here as well in 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,780 in the UK. So nice in fact that I went flying. Where'd you go? I 9 00:00:27,780 --> 00:00:32,460 went down to the south coast, which would be towards the Isle 10 00:00:32,460 --> 00:00:36,510 of Wight and then hung a left basically eastwards and went all 11 00:00:36,510 --> 00:00:39,480 along the coastline up to lid. Are you familiar with lid? 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,400 No. Okay, 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:47,070 so lid is just, I don't know, it's, it's that piece that 14 00:00:47,070 --> 00:00:50,280 sticks out on the on the right hand side of the island. It's on 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,990 the south coast there. But what's really nice there this 16 00:00:51,990 --> 00:00:55,740 programme is BBC show called coast. I don't know if I don't 17 00:00:55,740 --> 00:00:58,740 know if you can get that over there on BBC America. But 18 00:00:58,740 --> 00:01:02,100 essentially, it's a series about the coastline of the UK, which 19 00:01:02,100 --> 00:01:05,490 of course being an island is there's a lot of coastline. And 20 00:01:05,790 --> 00:01:09,600 it consists of it's like almost like a documentary. But there's 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,540 a lot of aerial photography really, really beautifully done. 22 00:01:12,540 --> 00:01:17,160 And I have to say, the coast of the UK is spectacular. If you 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,360 just fly along at you know, like 1000 or 1500 feet. It's just it 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,500 changes every every 1020 miles. It's just beautiful. So 25 00:01:26,489 --> 00:01:28,769 can you take photos out of your plane? Yeah, of course. 26 00:01:28,799 --> 00:01:32,219 I took Well, I did it with my cell phone camera. So you know, 27 00:01:32,939 --> 00:01:38,459 she kind of sucks ass. And by the way when I'm by myself it's 28 00:01:39,089 --> 00:01:42,239 there's a lot going on. So you know to really yelling 29 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:44,729 Jake me up for a ride. I'll take pictures. You get your ass 30 00:01:44,729 --> 00:01:48,689 over here. We'll take some pictures. Absolutely. It'll be 31 00:01:48,689 --> 00:01:49,109 fun. 32 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:50,609 It'll be raining 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,500 when you get here Yeah, probably. So nice. They're in 34 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:57,240 California. You were in Vegas, John. 35 00:01:58,260 --> 00:02:01,770 Yeah, I went to lost wages in Nevada. And yeah, did 36 00:02:01,770 --> 00:02:02,460 you lose any? 37 00:02:03,390 --> 00:02:07,320 No actually I won I only budget i know I don't know I don't like 38 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,440 to gamble. I think it's just a stupid I'm not a gambler either. 39 00:02:10,860 --> 00:02:14,550 But I do you know play video poker machines because I I know 40 00:02:14,580 --> 00:02:17,070 that there are certain machines if you if you look at all the 41 00:02:17,070 --> 00:02:20,070 odds, it's the funniest thing. video poker machines have a 42 00:02:20,070 --> 00:02:22,980 variety of odds for the exact same game from machine to 43 00:02:22,980 --> 00:02:26,070 machine to machine. And I don't know You know, I mean I guess 44 00:02:26,310 --> 00:02:28,860 nobody ever looks at these odds because there are some machines 45 00:02:28,860 --> 00:02:31,680 that essentially just take your money and there was published 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:31,890 right 47 00:02:31,890 --> 00:02:35,460 and so it says right there you will lose at least 4% On every 48 00:02:35,460 --> 00:02:36,750 every dime you put it that's what 49 00:02:36,750 --> 00:02:40,170 though that's casino wide. But there are some machines that are 50 00:02:40,170 --> 00:02:44,190 pretty close to break even on video poker. And if you know 51 00:02:44,190 --> 00:02:46,890 what to look for, and this is you know the because they ended 52 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:51,510 up right on the screen. And people just ignore it but you 53 00:02:51,510 --> 00:02:51,660 don't 54 00:02:51,660 --> 00:02:54,720 have to go to Vegas for that you could go to your local 711 and 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,010 play video poker Ganesha. 56 00:02:56,850 --> 00:03:01,500 Yeah, you could, okay. It's just a game I liked because I had 57 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:04,350 this. There's this computer programme called years ago 58 00:03:04,350 --> 00:03:07,380 called video poker tutor. And 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,900 what that run on the Commodore 64 or something 60 00:03:10,590 --> 00:03:15,600 close to it anyway, they would just keep beating you down until 61 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,970 you figured out how to you know what the strategy was because 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,660 the video poker is not poker. It's a you know, it's a 63 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:25,170 different game altogether. And there are and there's strategies 64 00:03:25,170 --> 00:03:27,960 involved with what you hold and what you get rid of, if you want 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,590 to approach this breakeven point and then if you get lucky you 66 00:03:31,590 --> 00:03:34,260 can you know walk away with some money and I tend to always walk 67 00:03:34,260 --> 00:03:36,450 away with some money although I can't say I've made a fortune I 68 00:03:36,450 --> 00:03:36,660 was going 69 00:03:36,660 --> 00:03:42,900 to total earnings five bucks right on you know, I've been to 70 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:45,510 Vegas quite a bit I'm not a gambler. I just I really don't 71 00:03:45,510 --> 00:03:48,210 care. I just doesn't interest me at all. 72 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:50,850 Well, there's a lot of interesting games I know it 73 00:03:50,850 --> 00:03:54,330 doesn't interest me to any extent but I mean I was a few 74 00:03:54,330 --> 00:03:58,290 years maybe 15 years ago used to play a lot of Craps and craps is 75 00:03:58,290 --> 00:04:01,590 an interesting game because it again if you play it right 76 00:04:01,590 --> 00:04:04,770 you're at a break you can pretty much breakeven at it and you can 77 00:04:04,830 --> 00:04:07,830 maybe even make out in the deal in some casinos where they give 78 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:11,220 you a lot of free cognac you know to try to make it so you 79 00:04:11,310 --> 00:04:14,850 just do they try to get your drinking so you screw up 80 00:04:14,940 --> 00:04:18,810 well they also in any in Vegas, they have they have tonnes of of 81 00:04:18,810 --> 00:04:23,700 courses you can take I did a couple documentaries in 90. I'm 82 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:29,070 gonna say 91 or 92 in Las Vegas. I did one No, I did three died. 83 00:04:29,070 --> 00:04:30,990 They're all on YouTube. By the way. If you just search Adam 84 00:04:30,990 --> 00:04:35,070 curry, you'll find that one is about the pawnshops. One is 85 00:04:35,070 --> 00:04:39,000 about craps and roulette. So they actually you know, I went 86 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,490 to one of those courses where they teach you how to play and 87 00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:45,540 the third one was the Las Vegas bike patrol. I went along and 88 00:04:45,540 --> 00:04:47,490 rode with the bike patrol for a day which was pretty 89 00:04:47,490 --> 00:04:50,160 interesting. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, you should take a look at 90 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,330 those I mean they're Dutch log them yeah blood there you go 91 00:04:54,330 --> 00:04:56,730 baby. You can look at Adams really really big hair. 92 00:04:58,110 --> 00:05:01,650 So anyway, the yeah They have a lot of courses and they're 93 00:05:01,650 --> 00:05:03,750 actually pretty good. They try to teach you how to do things, 94 00:05:03,750 --> 00:05:06,930 right, but they just assume that nobody really cares. Right? And 95 00:05:06,930 --> 00:05:09,360 I think it's also some rationale when people when the gaming 96 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,450 licences come up to say, No, we try to teach the public the 97 00:05:12,450 --> 00:05:15,060 exact, you know, aspects of the all the aspects of the game that 98 00:05:15,060 --> 00:05:15,360 will help. 99 00:05:15,630 --> 00:05:18,630 It's all to their benefit, you know, the I found the course 100 00:05:18,630 --> 00:05:21,120 really good, they really gave you a lot of tips and tricks and 101 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,180 you know, really they try to help you win knowing full well 102 00:05:24,180 --> 00:05:27,540 that the odds are stacked against you can win so I don't 103 00:05:27,540 --> 00:05:29,190 know if it has anything to do with a gaming licence or 104 00:05:29,190 --> 00:05:31,170 anything. I think they really just want to help you to get you 105 00:05:31,170 --> 00:05:32,610 to go to the table spend money. 106 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,240 Yes, but But the one thing I find interesting about craps is 107 00:05:36,270 --> 00:05:39,480 unlike all the other games in the casino, it's a social game, 108 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,980 where people win and lose as a group. Yeah, true. And it's a 109 00:05:43,980 --> 00:05:46,470 it's really a different game because of that and it's 110 00:05:46,470 --> 00:05:51,090 actually kind of interesting. But you know, again, it's when 111 00:05:51,090 --> 00:05:54,060 you look at it, you know, even any of these things, even if you 112 00:05:54,060 --> 00:05:58,170 can, you know, make a little money it's a time killer. I 113 00:05:58,170 --> 00:06:01,740 mean, you take your hours to you know, get anywhere unless you're 114 00:06:01,740 --> 00:06:04,770 throwing your massive amounts of money down. Yeah, that's 115 00:06:05,519 --> 00:06:10,019 not for me, not for me. I see you there for CES I heard a 116 00:06:10,019 --> 00:06:15,989 couple of your reports on tech five with a flat flat panel LCD 117 00:06:15,989 --> 00:06:18,569 screens. I heard those reports what else what else did you do 118 00:06:18,569 --> 00:06:20,399 at CES just kind of roam around and 119 00:06:21,540 --> 00:06:24,570 say I didn't see them but me ces to me has always been a show 120 00:06:24,900 --> 00:06:27,960 years ago when they had Comdex and computer guys would go there 121 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:31,290 that was different I mean, Comdex was was a whole different 122 00:06:31,290 --> 00:06:32,160 vibe wasn't 123 00:06:33,540 --> 00:06:36,630 it wasn't that different, but it was slightly different because 124 00:06:36,630 --> 00:06:42,210 there wasn't as much junk. CES has a lot of junk, a lot of 125 00:06:42,210 --> 00:06:44,670 weird stuff that is just like what is the what are these 126 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:48,600 people doing here? I mean, things for little. These little 127 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,290 mom and pop stores you find in urban areas where you you know 128 00:06:52,290 --> 00:06:54,930 turn a corner and there's an Indian guy running this place 129 00:06:54,930 --> 00:06:58,830 and he sells everything from toaster repair to skins for the 130 00:06:58,830 --> 00:07:03,210 cell phone to cigarettes, punching, you know, lottery 131 00:07:03,210 --> 00:07:05,220 tickets, you name it, 132 00:07:05,250 --> 00:07:09,090 does that really pay for those guys to buy a booth at CES for 133 00:07:09,090 --> 00:07:10,920 basically stuff that you buy in the mall? 134 00:07:12,329 --> 00:07:13,499 I don't know they're there. 135 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,890 And they do they do the same thing that they do this by the 136 00:07:16,890 --> 00:07:22,620 way, this is something I wanted to mention. It there is a new it 137 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:25,500 seems like a ship you know, you know these stalls in the mall. 138 00:07:25,530 --> 00:07:27,750 They're everywhere. They're here in the UK, but in the States, 139 00:07:27,750 --> 00:07:29,970 you know, there's little carts that kind of sit in the middle 140 00:07:29,970 --> 00:07:33,960 of the walkway, right. And they sell everything from covers for 141 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,890 your cell phone to you know, the embroidered hats. exactly that 142 00:07:37,890 --> 00:07:41,730 kind of stuff. But what has happened, I've noticed is that 143 00:07:41,730 --> 00:07:45,870 when you now are walking through the mall, the vendors now come 144 00:07:45,870 --> 00:07:48,690 up to you. And they say Excuse me, sir crash your question. And 145 00:07:48,690 --> 00:07:52,650 you know, and it's usually women who are doing this and they 146 00:07:52,650 --> 00:07:55,320 solicit you and it's really pissing me off. It's really 147 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,990 ruining my mall experience. Have you noticed that this is how you 148 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:59,940 know maybe you don't go to malls but it 149 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:04,619 was out obviously don't go as much as you do. But I go to 150 00:08:04,619 --> 00:08:07,859 malls I have seen these things I usually go to when I travel. I 151 00:08:07,859 --> 00:08:09,989 have never seen that in an American Mall. What you're 152 00:08:09,989 --> 00:08:10,439 describing, 153 00:08:10,470 --> 00:08:15,360 oh, I've been in two malls on my my most recent trips. It's like 154 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,320 a new thing that they use that just have this cute little. In 155 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,370 August, I went to the Rose Roosevelt field mall, I think is 156 00:08:23,370 --> 00:08:27,360 what it's called. It's a huge, massive Mega Mall in where 157 00:08:27,540 --> 00:08:31,230 that's upstate New York. Okay, sorry, not Well, yeah. Upstate, 158 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:36,480 not upstate, kind of upstate. And then the what's the one in 159 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,030 San Francisco? On market? 160 00:08:40,890 --> 00:08:47,700 On market? Yeah, yeah, there's that one word Nordstroms is the 161 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:48,270 gallery 162 00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:50,580 or whatever? Yeah, that's it. The gallery I think is what it's 163 00:08:50,580 --> 00:08:53,430 called. Same thing. And you're just walking along, looking at 164 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:56,490 the shops left or right. And then the vendors like, Excuse 165 00:08:56,490 --> 00:08:58,200 me, sir, can I ask you a question? It's like, no, fuck 166 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,430 off. Because I've said yes, of course, once. And then you know, 167 00:09:02,430 --> 00:09:04,800 they drag you into this demonstration of some stupid 168 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,380 pride to just it's like, you know, trying to sell you 169 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:08,640 something, but it's a fence. I 170 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,280 don't think that I don't think that's allowed. Well, they're 171 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,700 doing it, man. I think it's, I think it's a plague. And I think 172 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:15,870 it's taken over. And 173 00:09:15,870 --> 00:09:17,850 I mean, you might as well just have a bunch of guys in front of 174 00:09:17,850 --> 00:09:22,140 all the stores, you know, like they do when Columbus Avenue in 175 00:09:22,140 --> 00:09:26,070 the old days went to camera shop San Francisco. Yay, buddy. 176 00:09:28,980 --> 00:09:32,310 Well, I don't like it. I will not freak out places that allow 177 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:35,670 that behaviour. Anyway, yeah, I 178 00:09:35,670 --> 00:09:37,830 haven't seen it, but I can understand why it would be 179 00:09:37,830 --> 00:09:40,710 annoying. But yeah, there's these carts I think tell the 180 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:43,110 people these carts are interesting. They become a 181 00:09:43,110 --> 00:09:45,180 phenomenon all the malls have obviously there those are 182 00:09:45,180 --> 00:09:50,340 released spaces. Yeah. And I guess they button up the card at 183 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:54,600 night. And it's kind of just a cheap, usually a cheap 184 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,910 operation. Yes. 185 00:09:57,930 --> 00:10:01,020 And Patricia, she loves those guys. Because she'll be walking 186 00:10:01,020 --> 00:10:04,230 through the mall, and the the should go to like the sunglasses 187 00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:09,300 cart. And she now knows, she knows these. These vendors and 188 00:10:09,300 --> 00:10:12,720 she knows that if you want the fake Gucci sunglasses, you gotta 189 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,510 like, you know, wink wink nudge nudge and then outcomes, the 190 00:10:15,510 --> 00:10:17,850 special little draw that you can take a look at. So there are the 191 00:10:17,850 --> 00:10:21,510 other hand, there's selling all kinds of contraband and shit 192 00:10:21,510 --> 00:10:25,470 goods kidding me? Oh, man, absolutely. Patricia loves that. 193 00:10:25,710 --> 00:10:27,840 She loves sunglasses, 194 00:10:28,170 --> 00:10:30,810 take her to New York and take her down to Canal Street. 195 00:10:31,050 --> 00:10:34,410 Oh, no, it will she dude can do of course, Canal Street just 196 00:10:34,410 --> 00:10:38,550 changed now. Because, you know, they really cracked down on all 197 00:10:38,550 --> 00:10:41,250 the fake handbags and everything. And so now you, what 198 00:10:41,250 --> 00:10:43,350 they'll do is they'll come up to you and say, hey, you know, you 199 00:10:43,350 --> 00:10:46,500 see this? Well, they've got some bedding, basically, you follow? 200 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:49,290 That's kind of creepy, because you follow them into as like 201 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,950 down an alleyway, turn left down three stairs, and then they've 202 00:10:52,950 --> 00:10:56,610 got all the great stuff. And I am convinced, by the way 100% 203 00:10:56,610 --> 00:11:00,330 That these are actual products. These are not knock offs. These 204 00:11:00,330 --> 00:11:03,300 are the real deal that just you know, they're they're 205 00:11:03,300 --> 00:11:07,170 abnormalities or, or just pumped out a different door the factory 206 00:11:07,170 --> 00:11:10,320 I think it's exactly the same stuff as the as the $5,000 207 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:10,920 items. 208 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,180 But ya know, we've talked about this before, I think that I 209 00:11:15,180 --> 00:11:18,300 think some of the items are indeed the same thing. I know 210 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:22,200 you get pretty much the kind of the over production stuff when 211 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,960 you're in Korea. There's a street in Korea that sells all 212 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,620 kinds of stuff. And it's and you look at it and you cannot see 213 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,050 you can't see the difference. Yeah, you can see the 214 00:11:31,050 --> 00:11:31,380 difference. 215 00:11:31,410 --> 00:11:33,930 I mean, maybe a little bit there's a stitching that's off 216 00:11:33,930 --> 00:11:36,240 or something but you know, Patricia has made quite a study 217 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,320 of this because she really hates paying a lot of she used to be 218 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,530 married to a guy who was in clothing and all kinds of other 219 00:11:43,830 --> 00:11:46,440 stuff like that. And she says you know it costs shit. You 220 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:51,420 know, she she says any of these you see a sweater a jack wills 221 00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:55,590 or whatever, or Eddie Bauer and it's you know, $500 It costs 222 00:11:55,590 --> 00:12:00,060 five fucking dollars to make she just can't bring herself to pay 223 00:12:00,090 --> 00:12:02,850 you know to overpay for products like that. So she loves getting 224 00:12:02,850 --> 00:12:05,610 knockoffs and she's also convinced that they are in fact 225 00:12:05,610 --> 00:12:09,420 the real deal maybe just a small irregularity but undetectable. 226 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,280 It's all about how you wear it, you know? 227 00:12:12,750 --> 00:12:16,950 Yeah, no, I think a lot of the fake stuff i i have a whole 228 00:12:16,950 --> 00:12:21,510 bunch of of knockoff watches because during the heyday of 229 00:12:21,510 --> 00:12:24,960 Canal Street, I was working, still wearing a PC Magazine, but 230 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,510 I used to go to New York a lot and so I collected a huge I have 231 00:12:27,510 --> 00:12:30,390 a huge collection of some pretty cool ones. But what was the most 232 00:12:30,390 --> 00:12:35,700 fascinating watch I collected, which I still use. They there 233 00:12:35,700 --> 00:12:39,210 was a period of time where they were making perfect mulatos They 234 00:12:39,210 --> 00:12:41,820 were generally speaking the knockoff guys and these 235 00:12:41,820 --> 00:12:44,910 obviously were not really Movado says we're too thick. Yeah. But 236 00:12:44,910 --> 00:12:49,110 the they would put a second hand on the watch. 237 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,040 Or you'd have you know, a fine, fine Swiss watch. And you could 238 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,490 see this sweeping quartz driven secondhand. Yeah, I was like, 239 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:04,170 Yeah, click click click. But anyway, somebody did. Movado 240 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,780 they did a search Movado is without the sweep second hand 241 00:13:06,780 --> 00:13:09,570 they look just like mobiles. They had the right hands and 242 00:13:09,570 --> 00:13:13,380 everything else are perfect. But then one one day I went there 243 00:13:13,380 --> 00:13:17,550 and there was a silver on silver one, which was a Silver Case 244 00:13:17,550 --> 00:13:20,760 silver background in silver hands with the Movado logo and 245 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,570 look like a Movado but the Movado is typically a gold and 246 00:13:24,570 --> 00:13:28,380 black. Right not silver, silver and silver and so I bought that 247 00:13:28,380 --> 00:13:32,040 thing and it looked and it's just and Movado has never made 248 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,130 this watch that looks like this. They just haven't done it. But 249 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,600 they should because it's really gorgeous. So you were so I would 250 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,480 wear that watch typically even though I don't wear a tuxedo all 251 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,850 the time it's a great tuxedo watch and it would be it would 252 00:13:44,850 --> 00:13:45,810 always catch somebody's eye. 253 00:13:46,020 --> 00:13:49,230 Do you do you wear different watches? I mean I have I have 254 00:13:49,230 --> 00:13:53,520 probably I must have a collection of about 20 Different 255 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,720 watches but I keep wearing the same one. I don't like a 256 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,230 different thing around my wrist. I like the comfort of the one 257 00:14:01,230 --> 00:14:03,090 that I'm used to you really change around a lot. 258 00:14:04,110 --> 00:14:06,990 I don't wear I actually I stopped wearing watches maybe 10 259 00:14:06,990 --> 00:14:09,360 years ago and I just use the cell phone like everybody else 260 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,500 for the time. But yeah, I would I would wear different watches I 261 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:19,440 had I would take some Rolexes for example and you fake Rolexes 262 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,010 especially the good ones with expensive sweet secondhand and 263 00:14:23,010 --> 00:14:27,480 you match them up with some you if you were ever in Arizona or 264 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,810 someplace you match them up with some of these Indian bands and 265 00:14:30,810 --> 00:14:32,940 you get some pretty good looking matches and you get a pretty 266 00:14:32,940 --> 00:14:35,340 cool watch it people you know wonder where you got it? 267 00:14:35,610 --> 00:14:38,220 Well I've worn the same watch basically for 20 years. 268 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,550 Guys that to watch that you do the one to cloth band that 269 00:14:41,550 --> 00:14:43,680 you're wearing with the Velcro that one 270 00:14:45,270 --> 00:14:50,280 yeah, right. That's the one that's the one John No, Patricia 271 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,030 gave me a gold Rolex about a year after we'd been together 272 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:57,060 which of course was a complete incentive for me to keep her 273 00:14:57,060 --> 00:15:02,880 around and and I haven't taken it off. I mean, in fact, it's 274 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,620 really dirty. It should. It really should. It's it's 275 00:15:07,620 --> 00:15:10,800 completely black on the on the inside of the band. And of 276 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,500 course, you know, the real Rolexes don't actually keep time 277 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:16,410 very well. You know that? 278 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,410 Yeah, that's the irony of it, I guess. Yeah, it is. 279 00:15:20,970 --> 00:15:25,170 So what else happened in Vegas that saying well, that stay in 280 00:15:25,170 --> 00:15:26,280 Vegas, as usual, 281 00:15:27,630 --> 00:15:30,750 stayed at the MGM Grand. And I by the way, anyone go into the 282 00:15:30,750 --> 00:15:33,930 Vegas when you're at these new hotels, which are all they have 283 00:15:33,930 --> 00:15:38,340 a centrally located elevator shaft. Typically in the middle 284 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:43,380 of a star configuration. You when you check in always say 285 00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:49,140 look, I want a room near the elevators. Because you won't get 286 00:15:49,140 --> 00:15:51,900 a room. And you won't be able to find the elevators if you don't 287 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:52,770 ask for a room near it. 288 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,680 Know that you will find it because there's really just like 289 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,610 one long aisle that's a mile long toward the elevator shaft 290 00:15:59,610 --> 00:16:02,100 which is in the middle. So it's a spoken hub kind of layout, 291 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:05,640 typically with these hotels, and the MGM Grand is the worst 292 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,430 because it's one of the biggest hotels in the world and you can 293 00:16:08,430 --> 00:16:11,190 get a room it takes you five minutes to walk to the 294 00:16:11,190 --> 00:16:14,490 elevators. So you get the old you know, you walk to the 295 00:16:14,490 --> 00:16:17,700 elevator going, Oh, I forgot my you know, something, you gotta 296 00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:21,840 go back up. And it's a mile long walk to the room and then a mile 297 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:22,950 long walk back, 298 00:16:22,980 --> 00:16:25,620 I forgot the hooker I left in the room shit, and I gotta go 299 00:16:25,620 --> 00:16:26,100 back. 300 00:16:26,940 --> 00:16:30,810 So I mean, it's, so always ask for a room near the elevator 301 00:16:30,810 --> 00:16:34,230 shaft and you know, they'll give you a room close in. And it's 302 00:16:34,260 --> 00:16:37,140 really makes a huge difference because you can just, you know, 303 00:16:37,140 --> 00:16:39,210 you step out of the room, you take five steps, you go to the 304 00:16:39,210 --> 00:16:43,470 elevator shaft and you're down. But anyway, so I stayed there 305 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:45,750 and it's not a hotel I particularly like, but it's 306 00:16:45,750 --> 00:16:48,810 okay. And they have a lot of nice restaurants. They turn 307 00:16:48,810 --> 00:16:51,480 their restaurants over they have now Joel Robuchon has a 308 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,470 restaurant in there. 309 00:16:53,970 --> 00:16:56,100 Now two of them. I'm actually not familiar with Joel. 310 00:16:56,639 --> 00:17:00,089 Oh, yeah. He's one of the maybe the greatest chef in France. I 311 00:17:00,089 --> 00:17:05,129 mean, there's three great chefs. There's the Aruba, Shan and 312 00:17:05,159 --> 00:17:10,949 Savoie and Alan do Kos, who else has a place in New York, and 313 00:17:11,129 --> 00:17:14,759 they all three of them now have restaurants in Las Vegas? Do 314 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:17,729 courses in Aruba, Shawn's being the best of the two and there's 315 00:17:17,729 --> 00:17:21,779 a but you can't get in? You know, it's just impossible. So I 316 00:17:21,779 --> 00:17:23,789 didn't get to eat there. So I was very disappointed. 317 00:17:24,570 --> 00:17:27,780 Oh, that's a shame. Speaking of French just for a second. I 318 00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:31,950 think. I think I made a comment about the French on the last 319 00:17:31,950 --> 00:17:37,500 show. Yeah. And got a about them being lazy. I think which by the 320 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:40,830 way, a lot of people emailed me said you're being racist. And I 321 00:17:40,830 --> 00:17:44,820 think I have to. Exactly people are very confused about what 322 00:17:44,820 --> 00:17:48,810 racist is particularly in the UK, by the way. Mike Pinero, 323 00:17:49,170 --> 00:17:52,290 who's in the UK says I work for a French firm and a factory. 324 00:17:52,740 --> 00:17:55,950 Over here we get one hour for lunch, which for a factory is 325 00:17:55,950 --> 00:17:58,350 generous. Our French counterparts who also work in a 326 00:17:58,350 --> 00:18:01,710 factory get one and a half hours. They pop along to one of 327 00:18:01,710 --> 00:18:04,740 the many places to eat nearby quaff a few glasses of vino 328 00:18:04,740 --> 00:18:10,410 within a meal. 35 hour work week, all of August off. No 329 00:18:10,410 --> 00:18:14,940 Yorkshire tea, no real beer. And now they can't smoke inside. 330 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:19,140 So he's complaining about what? 331 00:18:19,770 --> 00:18:21,990 Well, he I think what he's saying is that it's true that 332 00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:26,460 the French are just they got it easy man. As culturally, 333 00:18:26,460 --> 00:18:28,650 culturally, they're lazy. Well, I 334 00:18:28,650 --> 00:18:32,250 don't know. It's laziness or smart, dude. I mean, how about 335 00:18:32,250 --> 00:18:32,520 sorry, 336 00:18:32,550 --> 00:18:36,600 sir cosy. How about him dating Carla Bruni? 337 00:18:38,580 --> 00:18:40,560 I'm telling you, as I said smart to 338 00:18:41,310 --> 00:18:43,800 you know, this is this is about leveraging 339 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,420 the position in a public office 340 00:18:45,449 --> 00:18:48,629 to vote he is so he's tapping that ass and it's a good thing 341 00:18:48,629 --> 00:18:50,759 she was willing to. She was Didn't you have a child with 342 00:18:50,759 --> 00:18:53,729 Mick Jagger? I mean, this is like this is like a serious babe 343 00:18:53,729 --> 00:18:54,929 that's been passed around. 344 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,040 She must have some some particular skill that we're 345 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,120 familiar with. I can only imagine whatever the case I 346 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:05,640 mean, you know, yeah, I you know, I'm not gonna accuse the 347 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,370 front. I mean, the French were have a different way of working. 348 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:15,960 But the ones Yeah, less. Well, maybe quite less 349 00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:19,200 doesn't really work is that we never hear about France. Is the 350 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,600 economy working? I mean, the only thing we hear about this is 351 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:21,990 more 352 00:19:22,500 --> 00:19:22,740 more 353 00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:24,150 striking. I fighting. 354 00:19:25,050 --> 00:19:28,080 Their economy is always in the tank. Are you kidding me? Okay, 355 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,550 mom. No, no, I'm just asking. I really have no idea. I mean, you 356 00:19:32,550 --> 00:19:33,960 just don't really hear about it. 357 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,620 You only if you went to Google right now and typed in fret 358 00:19:37,620 --> 00:19:40,440 France and recession it would come up with a million hits. 359 00:19:40,469 --> 00:19:45,269 Okay, let me try France in Google News and regular Google 360 00:19:45,630 --> 00:19:48,720 just regular Google Okay, let's I think they're perpetually in a 361 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:49,410 recession. 362 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,320 Well, there's something to be said for that as well. I guess 363 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:55,410 when you're on the floor, yet does not did not fall to near 364 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,660 France escapes recession top hit from the BBC News. Sorry. Sorry, 365 00:20:00,660 --> 00:20:03,240 they achieved a slight growth. Oh, I'm gonna get this. This is 366 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,330 the top hit on the new Google indexing system, by the way, 367 00:20:06,330 --> 00:20:12,000 which indexes Oh, okay, this is May 20 2003. Hey, that new 368 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,170 algorithms really working? 369 00:20:14,519 --> 00:20:15,749 Works great. The French 370 00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:19,200 economy managed to grow slightly by 0.3% in the first three 371 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,880 months of the year that's made 372 00:20:20,909 --> 00:20:28,319 2003 2003. All right, that's that's the one note of good news 373 00:20:28,319 --> 00:20:31,709 for the French economy right there. You know, four years ago, 374 00:20:32,459 --> 00:20:33,389 five years ago, 375 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,880 doesn't doesn't it? Let me see if there's something under news 376 00:20:35,910 --> 00:20:39,720 that might be? Let's see, here comes the earnings recession. 377 00:20:40,410 --> 00:20:43,260 Nothing about France. I'm telling you, you just don't read 378 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:45,840 a lot about it. Ah, yeah, they don't care 379 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,500 either. You know, the thing is, they don't listen to us. You can 380 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:52,080 be assured we have like, you know, the even with the like, I 381 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,540 do the twit thing with Leo, we have a big audience and I can 382 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:57,900 solicit anything I want around the world. And there'll be some 383 00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:00,930 two or three guys will chime in, you know, I need to know the 384 00:21:00,930 --> 00:21:03,870 best restaurant in Hamburg. And I get six emails with very 385 00:21:03,900 --> 00:21:07,080 German guys who live in Hamburg. Right? Of course. You can do 386 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,140 anything you want about France and there's no French listening. 387 00:21:10,170 --> 00:21:10,590 No, 388 00:21:10,620 --> 00:21:14,730 that's not true. Because there's at least I have at least two 389 00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:18,210 French listeners who yell consistently 390 00:21:19,470 --> 00:21:22,440 on your on your daily source code. Yeah, and there's a 391 00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:24,390 there's also doing it for 10 years. 392 00:21:24,990 --> 00:21:30,960 It's the same two guys so that's all right. No, I did I like it. 393 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,910 I look. I actually really liked the French. I have no problem 394 00:21:35,910 --> 00:21:39,330 with them. I'm just always amazed at you know, at how they 395 00:21:39,330 --> 00:21:41,010 make the shit work over there. 396 00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:47,460 They do it by having long lunches. I guess. They're trying 397 00:21:47,460 --> 00:21:50,190 to kill off the long lunch and frankly, I think they're French 398 00:21:50,190 --> 00:21:51,270 resists pretty well. 399 00:21:51,570 --> 00:21:54,450 Well, this is what's our cosy is all about right he didn't he say 400 00:21:54,450 --> 00:21:57,270 to the nation, look, we've got to we got to work harder. We got 401 00:21:57,270 --> 00:22:00,270 to do more if we want to keep in stride isn't that more or less 402 00:22:00,270 --> 00:22:01,200 his whole mess? That's what 403 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,870 he says but the talk is cheap. And then he runs off at the 404 00:22:03,870 --> 00:22:04,260 bimbo? 405 00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:08,940 Bimbo. John, it's I think she's she's got she's got you right 406 00:22:08,940 --> 00:22:13,080 she's got talent. She she's got real talent. 407 00:22:16,050 --> 00:22:19,440 So anyway, so stark codes. He's like, Yeah, big talker. 408 00:22:21,060 --> 00:22:24,990 But just imagine, you know that they seem to be making a minor 409 00:22:24,990 --> 00:22:28,140 deal. Oh, that's what it was. That's what I read. His ex wife 410 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:33,180 has published a book I think that came out yesterday. And and 411 00:22:33,180 --> 00:22:37,320 she of course, you know, raked him over the coals for what 412 00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:40,320 being a womaniser basically being French? 413 00:22:41,340 --> 00:22:48,030 Yeah. He's more French than the French. Yeah. He's actually a 414 00:22:48,030 --> 00:22:49,290 Hungarian or something. It 415 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:58,920 could be sir. Cosy. Yeah. Sounds right. Toe. Yeah. Tell me about 416 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,600 the the pinball Museum. 417 00:23:01,110 --> 00:23:05,730 Yeah, we went to the pinball museum. So I'm coming into 418 00:23:05,730 --> 00:23:08,310 Vegas, and I'm reading the South, I'm coming in on 419 00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:15,960 Southwest. And I'm reading the magazine in there. And the the 420 00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:19,590 flight was light, which is interesting and the course so 421 00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:22,710 there's no middle seats. And so a big fat person sits in the 422 00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:26,730 middle. It's always cracks me up. Divorce time I was on it, 423 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,000 when not to go into diversion here about fat people. But I'm, 424 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:34,950 you know, I'm not fat, but I'm a big guy. And I sort of one day I 425 00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:36,870 was on one of these flights where you pick your own seat in 426 00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:39,690 there, I saw a big fat guy sitting by the window and the 427 00:23:39,690 --> 00:23:42,180 IOC was there. And so I decided to sit there and just you know, 428 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:44,910 kind of spread my shoulders and try to feel spread out and look 429 00:23:44,910 --> 00:23:48,090 as big as I could. Trying to dissuade anyone from sitting 430 00:23:48,090 --> 00:23:49,350 between two big guys. 431 00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:53,010 Exactly. Please stay away. So 432 00:23:54,270 --> 00:23:57,870 I thought that the the idea was good, and I swear to God, 433 00:23:58,110 --> 00:24:00,960 probably the fattest woman I've ever seen on an aeroplane. 434 00:24:00,990 --> 00:24:04,170 Hey, there's my people. My peeps are here. I gotta go sit in 435 00:24:04,170 --> 00:24:05,190 between them. 436 00:24:06,450 --> 00:24:09,990 That's the only logic because she pops himself down between 437 00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:14,250 the two of us. He slammed up against the window. His face is 438 00:24:14,250 --> 00:24:17,460 kind of against the thing. smooshed up against and I'm like 439 00:24:17,460 --> 00:24:19,980 halfway in the attic. People keep banging in and walking 440 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:21,600 because we could barely sit there. And 441 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,520 of course, she took both armrests, right. 442 00:24:25,260 --> 00:24:32,130 Yeah, but not with their arms. Oh, God, I got a visual. All 443 00:24:32,130 --> 00:24:35,550 right. So this is always risky. So so we went down and so I'm 444 00:24:35,550 --> 00:24:37,530 reading the magazine it talks about the 445 00:24:38,850 --> 00:24:46,440 just museum this pinball museum on the address is 33303 3330 446 00:24:46,830 --> 00:24:49,740 East Tropicana. For anybody in Vegas who wants to go check it 447 00:24:49,740 --> 00:24:53,310 out. And it's this guy's had been collecting pinball machines 448 00:24:53,310 --> 00:24:56,160 for I guess his whole life and he's got 800 of them in his 449 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,100 collection. 200 of them are in the pinball Museum at any given 450 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:03,210 time. And they're all you can play them all that the original 451 00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:08,160 25 cent price for five balls or whatever. And even it has a one 452 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,640 off of them really wild machine that they produce that barley 453 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,930 prototype to have. And only one ever worked and he has it should 454 00:25:15,930 --> 00:25:20,940 worth about 100,000 bucks, he thinks. And it's a wild machine. 455 00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:23,700 It's like dimensional. It's got all kinds of playing fields. 456 00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:26,850 It's ridiculous. He's got anyway, he's got all these 457 00:25:26,850 --> 00:25:28,350 machines in there a lot of classes from the 458 00:25:28,350 --> 00:25:34,440 30s 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s and 90s. And, and all the money that he 459 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,380 makes at the place after he pays for his overhead goes to 460 00:25:37,380 --> 00:25:41,880 charity. It's all in many ways retired. And he just wants 461 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,160 everybody so he can't afford to advertise anything. So he's 462 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,950 getting a lot of publicity, but the pleasures he has, he's had 463 00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:50,190 about 10 or 20 people in there playing away like crazy. It's 464 00:25:50,190 --> 00:25:53,190 it's a great place to be like pinball machines him 465 00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:56,130 Arnold that's his name right? Tim Arnold? Yeah. Tim Arnold. 466 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,350 Yeah, I'm looking at the website, which is pinball 467 00:25:58,350 --> 00:26:00,780 museum.org That's pretty great. 468 00:26:00,810 --> 00:26:06,570 Pinball museum.org. And we interviewed him for cranky geeks 469 00:26:06,570 --> 00:26:12,030 and he you know, he's, he's in pinball nut. And he said the 470 00:26:12,030 --> 00:26:15,390 enemy got a lot of complaints that like, you know, people join 471 00:26:15,390 --> 00:26:18,360 when pinball maker left because nobody puts pinball machines in 472 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,490 gas stations or anyplace else anymore, because everything's 473 00:26:20,490 --> 00:26:22,560 one by chains. And they won't you know, they don't like 474 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,080 pinball because of its CD history. They don't want loiter 475 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,680 in then they don't want anyone loitering right. There you go. 476 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:32,160 And so he knew he has a real interesting lament. 477 00:26:32,370 --> 00:26:35,700 That's really quite sad, because it certainly when I was a kid, 478 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,830 both in the states and and in Europe as well. It was quite a 479 00:26:40,830 --> 00:26:43,740 thing. You know, you'd go down to the, to the drugstore, or 480 00:26:43,740 --> 00:26:48,930 whatever. And, you know, I think that I was kind of in between 481 00:26:48,930 --> 00:26:54,330 the pinball and Pac Man. You know, that's when it kind of 482 00:26:54,330 --> 00:26:57,330 went to video games. But you're right, you don't see him anymore 483 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:00,450 because they don't want loitering. But that was kind of 484 00:27:00,450 --> 00:27:03,450 where you grew up. And we you know, you got your first smoke. 485 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:06,420 No, Emile that's 486 00:27:06,420 --> 00:27:09,870 how you got started. So they use them in bowling alleys and 487 00:27:09,870 --> 00:27:11,970 everyplace else I mean, then you'd play him there was always 488 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,710 fun and you know, it was anyway so he says the problem now is 489 00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:20,520 maintaining them because the mechanics nobody makes the part 490 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,250 so you have to machine the part so you have to scavenge things 491 00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:27,090 from other you know, other systems and he's been buying 492 00:27:27,090 --> 00:27:30,960 apparently, motors from old blenders seems to work in 493 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,900 certain machines. And so anyway, but it's a labour of love and I 494 00:27:36,930 --> 00:27:39,720 you know, recommend anyone that go past through Las Vegas is one 495 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,550 of the more interesting places in the country to visit. 496 00:27:41,580 --> 00:27:48,090 Oh, check this 01010808 John C. Dvorak. Cranky. geeks.com takes 497 00:27:48,090 --> 00:27:52,050 a timeout from 2000 CES show in Las Vegas to visit the pinball 498 00:27:52,050 --> 00:27:58,140 Hall of Fame. It's episode number 98. You're on motion? 499 00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:00,450 Yeah, you're on their news page dude. Fantastic. 500 00:28:00,870 --> 00:28:03,810 cross promotion the name of the game and even better 501 00:28:03,810 --> 00:28:08,040 than that, it's it says on first of January spirit magazine, 502 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,490 which is what you read Southwest Airlines article about Las Vegas 503 00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:15,180 pinball Hall of Fame. article titled shear play to mean 504 00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:18,480 pinball. God the net is cool. 505 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,950 So yeah, that's why we like it. 506 00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:26,310 That internet thing is that rocks guy 507 00:28:27,630 --> 00:28:30,570 so anyway, anyone out there who's visited Vegas I you know 508 00:28:30,570 --> 00:28:33,900 get off the beaten path get a car get a cab or go out to you 509 00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:40,380 know 33 Three East Tropicana and check it out. On the way back I 510 00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:44,730 took a came back in a private aeroplane. And oh, what who 511 00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:47,310 drivers? Yeah, horse cool. 512 00:28:47,340 --> 00:28:49,320 What does he what kind of plane 513 00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:51,960 Well, it's the you know, he's part of you know, he's it's like 514 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,320 it's like a like a net jets thing. Yeah, it's like good. 515 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,000 This one was a hawker 800 516 00:28:57,270 --> 00:28:58,740 Oh, it's a nice plane man. 517 00:28:59,310 --> 00:29:01,710 That is a nice plane. Although you know be I've been in the 518 00:29:01,710 --> 00:29:05,610 beach jets and the beach jets are really nice. Even though 519 00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:08,790 they're small they are there's just a features inside the plane 520 00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:09,840 are just really cool. 521 00:29:09,959 --> 00:29:12,539 Well, the Hawker is you can stand up straight in the Hawker 522 00:29:12,539 --> 00:29:12,989 Can't you? 523 00:29:14,610 --> 00:29:17,580 Yeah, you can get pre I bumped my head. I think it's under six 524 00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:20,040 foot. It's not like a challenge or anything where you can 525 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,370 wander around so the 800 Ryan right at the Challenger that's 526 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,290 that's an amazing or the I've been in a G five god. Yeah, the 527 00:29:28,290 --> 00:29:29,790 G five is the class act. 528 00:29:30,150 --> 00:29:34,200 Although, although I'd rather honestly just all things being 529 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,790 equal. I'd rather have a challenger than than a G five. 530 00:29:40,350 --> 00:29:44,790 You know, you're on your way out if you can afford one. It's the 531 00:29:44,790 --> 00:29:48,270 part that most most of these Yeah, but see, most of these 532 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,880 people don't realise you know, these private jets are mostly 533 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,690 now all shared. Yeah. I mean, there's a few guys left that 534 00:29:54,690 --> 00:29:57,090 have their own. I mean, the Google boys have a couple of 535 00:29:57,090 --> 00:29:58,590 jets had dedicated to them and 536 00:29:58,590 --> 00:30:02,070 as some of the bay Pay Pal guys have jets to 537 00:30:02,340 --> 00:30:06,540 right pad that Paul Allen's got a jet 757 Raylene 538 00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:14,160 has a G five, cool Ray lane. So does he. He's got a G five and I 539 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,670 rode with him. I went, we took his G five when they launched 540 00:30:17,670 --> 00:30:21,210 the Tesla. That electric sports car Hey, they 541 00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:24,240 had it okay to change the topic, they had a Tesla to show that 542 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,410 identifier I got to look at one up close and personal. It's a 543 00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:30,420 little loaded. Battery. Yeah. 544 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,590 With the fucking DISA No, this is what's so funny, because so 545 00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:43,650 it was me it was Ron and Marta, Ron's wife, and Ray and we took 546 00:30:43,650 --> 00:30:49,530 his G five down to LA. And what was really funny on the landing 547 00:30:50,730 --> 00:30:53,550 because he I was sitting in the I went upside with the pilots on 548 00:30:53,550 --> 00:30:56,580 the jump seat. Of course, you know, one that was cool, you 549 00:30:56,580 --> 00:30:59,610 don't sit in the cockpit. And they were in the back drinkin. 550 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:06,420 And when they landed, one of the breaks jammed. So they landed 551 00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:09,150 actually we like think like the right or maybe even both rear 552 00:31:09,150 --> 00:31:14,250 brakes, essentially engaged to the nosewheel slammed down. I 553 00:31:14,250 --> 00:31:18,000 mean, it was I was strapped in with a five point harness and I 554 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,770 was thrown like the whole chair really moved forward. That's how 555 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,740 how heavy it was. And Ray Lane who was in the back of course, 556 00:31:25,740 --> 00:31:29,700 you know, Mr. Big VC, I'm not going to buckle my seatbelt. He 557 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,810 he flew out of his seat across the seat into martyrs lap on 558 00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:39,330 this landing. Yeah, it was very fucked up. And but you know, for 559 00:31:39,330 --> 00:31:44,070 pilots, it's like, that was like really embarrassing. You know, 560 00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:48,210 yeah. When, when, you know, when you've got a pilot as a guest on 561 00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:50,490 board, and you know, of course, you're jet jockey. So you're, 562 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,340 you're showing off, right? And you really fuck it up. Anyway, 563 00:31:53,340 --> 00:31:59,580 so the launch was at, at the airport, it was, I think it was 564 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:07,710 he was Burbank. And so they rented out of a hangar. And 565 00:32:07,710 --> 00:32:10,140 essentially, they had a little circuit and then you know, you 566 00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:13,020 saw you in the middle of the hangar was the party. And then 567 00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:16,500 they had a circuit around this party. And that went outside and 568 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:18,960 then back into the hangar. So it was it was kind of cool. You 569 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,740 know, it was like, like your own Matchbox set or hot wheels that 570 00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:27,390 you had set up on the really big. And you could buy one right 571 00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:29,700 then and there. And they had a big screen up and it would show 572 00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:32,280 you know the names of people who had pre ordered one. So of 573 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,610 course, you know, you look at Larry, Sergey. And then there's 574 00:32:35,670 --> 00:32:41,160 a pop Ray lane. And to date, no one has still has has received 575 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,090 well, this is 2006 they Yeah, they can't deliver these fucking 576 00:32:47,130 --> 00:32:50,310 Well, you know, when I see these kinds of promotions, and I see 577 00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:53,040 all the Silicon Valley gets for some unusual actually, they all 578 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,560 get on the same bandwagon because the weight is down 579 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,020 there. Because it's like something's either cool about 580 00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:01,230 it. You know, it's electric. And it's really fast. And you know, 581 00:33:01,230 --> 00:33:03,330 there's all these different kinds of things that make it so 582 00:33:03,570 --> 00:33:04,230 great. 583 00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:07,710 Yeah, but it's still in Lotus with a de sel. Looking at this, 584 00:33:07,710 --> 00:33:10,230 I'm looking because I I think I saw one on the road like a 585 00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:12,090 couple of years ago that was being test driven down in 586 00:33:12,090 --> 00:33:14,580 Southern California. And I couldn't figure it out. But I do 587 00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:17,790 remember the logo. So when I saw the logo later, I said, Oh, I 588 00:33:17,790 --> 00:33:21,780 saw one of these these things. These Tesla's a tee. Anyway, so 589 00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:27,270 I was looking at this thing, it's really cramped inside. In 590 00:33:27,270 --> 00:33:29,220 fact, somebody was telling me that one of their friends was 591 00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:32,190 six, six bought one, there's no way he's ever gonna weigh in no 592 00:33:32,190 --> 00:33:36,000 way. And but everybody in the valley is on the waiting list. 593 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,370 And it's a big deal to have, you know, to be on the waiting list 594 00:33:38,370 --> 00:33:41,100 of this thing. And I'm thinking these guys have got way too much 595 00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,920 money, they can just throw it around, and to get a get what I 596 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,220 consider to be a gimmick vehicle. And yeah, it'd be cool 597 00:33:47,220 --> 00:33:50,700 if it works and if they ever ship it for a while until 598 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:55,620 somebody gets rammed by someone else. Or the car flips I mean, I 599 00:33:55,620 --> 00:33:59,310 just the whole thing is just to get a Lexus for God's sake. So 600 00:33:59,310 --> 00:34:04,530 it is it is indeed it is a lotus body. I mean it literally you 601 00:34:04,530 --> 00:34:07,200 know that I don't know if they take the emblem off but it's a 602 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,280 lotus body and it is fast. I think it does zero to 60 in 603 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,400 under four seconds just didn't you that amazing torque that it 604 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,660 has. But the problem motor but the problem they're having is 605 00:34:18,930 --> 00:34:25,890 the battery. And I heard I'm sure you've heard of or seen the 606 00:34:25,890 --> 00:34:27,870 movie Who Killed the Electric car 607 00:34:29,910 --> 00:34:31,770 you know, I don't know if I have maybe 608 00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:34,620 you will look a look it up on Google Video. I'm sure they I'm 609 00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:38,490 sure someone's illegally uploaded it. Thank goodness. But 610 00:34:38,490 --> 00:34:41,790 it's about that. There was an electric car that they handed 611 00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:46,200 out to celebrities in the car I want to say 80s 90 Something 612 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,160 like that. General Motors car. Yeah, that's the one exactly. 613 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,730 And but no one has a cool looking car by the way. Yeah, 614 00:34:53,730 --> 00:34:56,580 but no one was allowed to buy it. You couldn't actually buy 615 00:34:56,580 --> 00:34:58,860 the car and then they took them out that destroyed them all. 616 00:34:58,950 --> 00:35:01,830 Yeah, they took them all out. I cannot what I've understood is 617 00:35:01,830 --> 00:35:08,010 that I guess GM or some some, some company owns a patent to 618 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,130 the battery technology that is necessary that actually would 619 00:35:11,130 --> 00:35:15,390 make this all work. And that they are for obvious reasons and 620 00:35:15,420 --> 00:35:19,140 reasons. I've purposely not allowed anyone to do anything 621 00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:21,540 with that patent. But that that's really the problem. 622 00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:24,360 Everyone's struggling trying to work around this patent to come 623 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,310 up with a better battery technology. Do you know anything 624 00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:26,910 about this? 625 00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:29,310 It sounds like a crock. 626 00:35:30,330 --> 00:35:33,240 I don't know. I mean, batteries, General Motors is gonna bring 627 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:36,750 out another electric car. It's my understanding. They put all 628 00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:39,450 this I mean, I think there's too much emphasis on the hydrogen 629 00:35:39,450 --> 00:35:42,690 cars, for example. And I think that that's the real issue and 630 00:35:42,690 --> 00:35:45,300 what's and if they're going to be promoting all these other 631 00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:48,660 sort of alternative systems, there's no reason for him to 632 00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:52,170 like, kill the electric car for some unknown reason. Well, not 633 00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:52,590 now. 634 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,530 I think now, now, now, now, people are interested, there's a 635 00:35:55,530 --> 00:35:57,780 market for it. And we know, everyone knows they have to 636 00:35:57,780 --> 00:36:02,130 change, you know, but 2010, you know, 1015 20 years ago, they 637 00:36:02,130 --> 00:36:05,130 had every reason to not want people to get into electric. And 638 00:36:05,130 --> 00:36:08,040 I think that now they will get into it. And what do you mean, 639 00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:10,890 about the hydrogen, you don't think that's going to work? So 640 00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:11,130 there's 641 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,360 no, it's just a joke. You know, somebody should talk to, you 642 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,380 know, I got to read the riot act by some guys from an office 643 00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:21,840 Eriko, or one of these gas companies, you know, these 644 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,920 companies that sell gas, you know, in canisters, and they 645 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,860 said this, you can't get enough energy out of hydrogen to make 646 00:36:28,860 --> 00:36:31,560 it worthwhile. And you'd have to compress so much of it right now 647 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,650 they got the tanks up to and I kept up with this, by the way I 648 00:36:34,650 --> 00:36:37,350 go to the General Motors that they have sessions are all over 649 00:36:37,350 --> 00:36:40,110 the country where they have all these hydrogen cars, I've driven 650 00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:43,500 a bunch of them. And besides the fact that they make a screeching 651 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:46,890 sound when you accelerate drive you crazy. But anyway, I mean, 652 00:36:46,890 --> 00:36:50,490 because of the the sound of the hydrogen going through the 653 00:36:50,490 --> 00:36:54,060 membrane, the technologies from this from the 60s or earlier, 654 00:36:54,060 --> 00:36:56,220 because that membrane is it, they can't seem to make a 655 00:36:56,220 --> 00:36:59,250 breakthrough on that. They can't get enough energy out of the 656 00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:01,980 gas, because the gas is low energy, actually, believe it or 657 00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:04,710 not. And so you have to compress a tonne of it there. Now they've 658 00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:09,210 gotten to tanks to get last time I looked, they had the tanks, so 659 00:37:09,210 --> 00:37:12,720 they were 10,000 pounds per square inch tanks, which I can 660 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:16,860 imagine one of those things breaking open. And they still 661 00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:19,650 can't get the things to go more than 300 miles or so. And they 662 00:37:19,650 --> 00:37:22,650 know that there's a there's a magic number I forgot. I think 663 00:37:22,650 --> 00:37:25,590 it's 350. Or there's some number they and I think there's the 664 00:37:25,590 --> 00:37:28,590 same problem with the electric car, the car manufacturers and 665 00:37:28,590 --> 00:37:31,950 by the way that Tesla has this problem. The car manufacturers 666 00:37:31,950 --> 00:37:35,130 that have a magic number, if the car cannot go this far on one 667 00:37:35,130 --> 00:37:38,880 tank, then it's not commercially viable because people won't put 668 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,820 up with it. And there's a minimum number of miles you can 669 00:37:41,820 --> 00:37:45,180 go and they can't get to that mileage with the hydrogen car. 670 00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:47,700 And even if they did, the car is going to be extremely expensive 671 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:51,540 because that entire mechanism that they use to propel the car 672 00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:55,740 is just expensive, but everybody is on this bandwagon. So I've 673 00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:58,530 driven the Honda's, I've driven the hot I've been in a Honda 674 00:37:58,530 --> 00:38:01,080 hydrogen, Toyota has got one I've been in that had been in 675 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,670 the forage general where everybody's got one. And there's 676 00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:09,360 a couple of trucks and there I think there's a bus or two out 677 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,090 there and I haven't driven the bus. But I've driven these 678 00:38:12,090 --> 00:38:14,280 things around and they're they have a funny kind of a 679 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,190 performance curve. I don't think they're I don't think they have 680 00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:17,940 any appeal. 681 00:38:18,359 --> 00:38:21,719 There's a couple of people sent me a link earlier this week to 682 00:38:23,129 --> 00:38:26,789 something called the air car. Which looks a little bit like a 683 00:38:26,819 --> 00:38:32,489 like a an even cheaper looking smart car. More plastic more 684 00:38:32,489 --> 00:38:36,719 plastic looking by the way I love some I love smart cars one 685 00:38:36,839 --> 00:38:40,829 but it has a compressed air and and so it's a hybrid so it uses 686 00:38:41,399 --> 00:38:44,279 fossil fuel to kind of like an electric hybrid, but they 687 00:38:44,279 --> 00:38:46,529 compress air and then use that 688 00:38:48,090 --> 00:38:50,280 interesting Hey, that car blows 689 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,470 what a slogan 690 00:38:55,650 --> 00:38:59,610 Yeah, so you know the problem and if you talk to these guys 691 00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:02,580 who are honest about it, and people don't realise that 692 00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:05,970 gasoline there isn't gasoline there's gasoline cars out there 693 00:39:06,030 --> 00:39:11,340 know why they're so popular is gasoline per pound has more 694 00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:15,780 energy in it just built into the molecular structure than any 695 00:39:15,780 --> 00:39:19,650 other substance we can come up with. And so it's it's a very 696 00:39:19,650 --> 00:39:22,770 it's already a kind of a compressed form of energy. And 697 00:39:22,770 --> 00:39:26,130 that's why gasoline cars you know, are what they are right. 698 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:33,990 Well so anyway, so I obviously you know, sound like an old 699 00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:37,500 fuddy duddy here, but you know, and I do like VAT. What can I 700 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,110 say? I remember my 701 00:39:40,110 --> 00:39:42,390 back and I'm caring about cars. I just don't give a shit 702 00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:42,930 anymore. 703 00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:45,570 Yeah, well, you're in England. Why would you? So? 704 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,280 Well, this is the land of motoring. Mind you? The lay of 705 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,940 the land of Top Gear. I mean, I really enjoy watching Top Gear. 706 00:39:54,270 --> 00:39:57,690 But you know, so I'll see them do a review of like the new Audi 707 00:39:57,690 --> 00:40:02,790 I've always been kind of an Audi guy. And you know that new AR 708 00:40:02,850 --> 00:40:06,510 eight or whatever it is. Sports sports car, 709 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,280 I guess Yeah, everything's supposed to be a rocket 710 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,730 it borders on supercar status, I believe. And then it's quite 711 00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:16,020 it's quite affordable actually as supercars go. But yeah, so 712 00:40:16,050 --> 00:40:19,260 they had one at the airport, and I go take a look at it and I 713 00:40:19,260 --> 00:40:22,620 just like I really don't give a shit. I don't actually want to 714 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:26,700 sit in the car going anywhere. You know, it'll this will look 715 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:27,240 nice. 716 00:40:27,479 --> 00:40:30,419 But your views on to the point where you you need to be 717 00:40:30,419 --> 00:40:31,319 chauffeured. 718 00:40:31,919 --> 00:40:35,519 Yeah. And as long as it's comfortable in the back, it's 719 00:40:35,549 --> 00:40:39,419 fine. In fact, I'm the guy that when in fact have to go with 720 00:40:39,419 --> 00:40:41,969 Patricia and like, a couple minutes after we're done. You 721 00:40:41,969 --> 00:40:45,119 gotta go shopping. Because she can't really do anything she can 722 00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:48,089 only command me is what to do. But normally I'd say will you 723 00:40:48,089 --> 00:40:51,029 please drive? I don't even want to let my wife drive. I really 724 00:40:51,029 --> 00:40:51,629 don't care. 725 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,300 Yeah, well, you know, that's what happens when you get to a 726 00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:54,900 certain point. 727 00:40:54,990 --> 00:40:56,910 I told everyone in the source code about Patricia's 728 00:40:56,910 --> 00:40:58,440 appendectomy, by the way, so 729 00:40:59,250 --> 00:41:02,340 yeah, she's okay, though. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're about it? 730 00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:05,850 Well, I'm very irked about it, because, you know, she was 731 00:41:06,090 --> 00:41:13,200 essentially misdiagnosed by multiple doctors, multiple 732 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,270 hospitals, multiple tests. And, you know, because I guess, you 733 00:41:18,270 --> 00:41:24,600 know, by not diagnosing appendicitis. That's a 734 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,970 misdiagnosis. I would think. And I I'm sure that there's no 735 00:41:29,970 --> 00:41:33,720 recourse. I'm sure they wouldn't be in this country. Really. 736 00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:36,660 But that you know, I'm against that I'm really look, first of 737 00:41:36,660 --> 00:41:40,050 all, when, you know, so people make mistakes, people fuck up. 738 00:41:40,050 --> 00:41:42,540 Now, that's possible. But I'd like to know about it. And I'd 739 00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:46,200 like someone to cop to it. You know, I'm really against that 740 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,870 culture of, you know, something bad happened, someone died. 741 00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:52,740 Let's sue for millions. It just, I don't I don't agree with it. 742 00:41:52,770 --> 00:41:53,640 It doesn't really solve 743 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,550 the way we operate. It doesn't solve anything, but it it makes 744 00:41:56,730 --> 00:42:02,670 it it keeps cash flow. Would you do it? Yeah, probably. I tend to 745 00:42:02,670 --> 00:42:04,620 be I tend to be slightly litigious, 746 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,030 really, is the only things I've sued for have been. I 747 00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:14,220 countersued MTV when they sued me for for mtv.com. And I sued 748 00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:17,550 the Dutch tabloid when they stole my picture off of Flickr, 749 00:42:17,610 --> 00:42:22,200 under the Creative Commons licence. And, and both times it 750 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,630 was kind of a trivial that's a kind of an interesting lawsuit. 751 00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:25,980 You're saying you're not as sued happy? 752 00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:30,990 Well, but that was, that was a principal. But that was a real 753 00:42:30,990 --> 00:42:34,920 principal issue there. Because I had my I had pictured private 754 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,400 pictures on Flickr. And I had the permissions of the Creative 755 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:44,820 Commons copyright licence set, you know, to no derivatives, and 756 00:42:44,820 --> 00:42:48,690 non commercial use or whatever. And attribution, something like 757 00:42:48,690 --> 00:42:51,450 that, but certainly no commercial use. And they, you 758 00:42:51,450 --> 00:42:55,200 know, took those pictures. Printing did like a six page 759 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,620 spread, including part of the cover. And then they said, Well, 760 00:42:58,770 --> 00:43:03,090 we have every right you put them up there on that site, and, and 761 00:43:03,090 --> 00:43:07,110 it even had a download button. And that was an argument like, I 762 00:43:07,110 --> 00:43:10,470 got to take these guys to court, I just have to, and now that 763 00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:14,790 that case is actually is used as jurisprudence now for the 764 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:17,160 Creative Commons copyright, I'm quite proud of that one. 765 00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:22,410 Good, because I would have done the same thing. I just wouldn't 766 00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:25,590 have said what you said earlier. Now, let's go back to that suit. 767 00:43:25,590 --> 00:43:26,490 What did you get out of it? 768 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:34,170 Well, what I sued him for. When I sue him for I think it was 769 00:43:34,170 --> 00:43:37,770 like, you have to take every single copy off the shelves and 770 00:43:38,190 --> 00:43:42,090 pay me 20,000. Now while we evaluate, like outrageous 771 00:43:42,090 --> 00:43:48,030 claims, obviously, you know, as as one does, and what the so the 772 00:43:48,030 --> 00:43:53,760 judge? Because yeah, there's no there's no jury system in the 773 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,220 Netherlands, it's professional judges. And so basically, they 774 00:43:56,220 --> 00:44:00,390 call the shots, which is really fucked up. You know, and this 775 00:44:00,390 --> 00:44:04,230 woman clearly did not have an in depth understanding of Creative 776 00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:10,590 Commons, she who was the judge. So this would have the the, the 777 00:44:10,590 --> 00:44:16,740 outcome of the trial was I got no damages. However, the 778 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,700 magazine had operated illegally, they're not allowed to do that. 779 00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:23,640 And the next time they do it, they would have to pay a 2000 780 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,630 euro fine for each picture. They stole basically setting a price 781 00:44:27,630 --> 00:44:33,240 to break the law. But at least, you know, they they upheld the 782 00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:34,650 Creative Commons copyright. 783 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:38,760 You didn't get any money. 00 That stinks. 784 00:44:38,819 --> 00:44:43,169 In fact, I had to pay my own court costs, obviously. And 785 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,660 I did the public service, but you know, somebody goes, 786 00:44:45,780 --> 00:44:50,130 Hey, but I remember with mtv.com when they sued me for the domain 787 00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:56,250 name, I contacted. In fact, that was around the same time that I 788 00:44:56,250 --> 00:44:58,650 met you the first time John, when CNET was seen that 789 00:44:58,650 --> 00:45:03,210 television was just starting All right. And John Perry Barlow, 790 00:45:03,210 --> 00:45:06,000 and I spoke to him and I said, dude, here's what's going on you 791 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,210 can eff helped me. And he said, No. And I was so disappointed. 792 00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:13,890 I've always hated the EFF since then. Absolutely no desire to 793 00:45:13,890 --> 00:45:16,350 help me whatsoever. But this is a fundamental issue. You know, 794 00:45:16,350 --> 00:45:18,870 they gave me permission to use this. And now they're suing me 795 00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:21,240 to take it away. You know, that's fundamental. This is a 796 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:24,060 big deal. This domain name stuff, I think there's something 797 00:45:24,060 --> 00:45:28,020 to it. And they just fucking flatly turned me down. 798 00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:30,900 Well, they, you know, turned down a lot of their cases. I 799 00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:33,480 never could figure it out. Why, why I never could figure out 800 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,580 what the selection process is with those guys. 801 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,950 Exactly. So that cost me a lot of money. But the outcome at the 802 00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:46,290 end was good. What was it? The lawsuit between MTV Networks and 803 00:45:46,290 --> 00:45:48,810 Mr. Curry has been settled out of court. Neither party has any 804 00:45:48,810 --> 00:45:49,590 further comment. 805 00:45:51,210 --> 00:45:56,310 So you got some cash from him, then? Good. Luck. Yeah, guess. 806 00:45:56,340 --> 00:45:56,760 Right. 807 00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:59,970 It's been settled out of court. Neither party has any further 808 00:45:59,970 --> 00:46:00,600 comment. 809 00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:03,510 Is it in there that if you said something, you'd have to give 810 00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:04,380 him the money back? 811 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:08,520 I could look at it. But that that, you know, the whole, no 812 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,150 disparaging, and we literally negotiated that. That's why I 813 00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:12,900 know the line. 814 00:46:12,930 --> 00:46:14,910 Yeah, that's what that's the way it always works. Yeah, we 815 00:46:14,910 --> 00:46:17,700 negotiate as part of the deal. Yeah, that means they pay too 816 00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:19,980 much money. And the part of the deal is you can start bad 817 00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:20,580 mouthing them. 818 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:25,200 The lawsuit between MTV Networks and Adam Korean settled out of 819 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:30,510 court, Neither party has any further comment. No, it was. The 820 00:46:30,510 --> 00:46:33,900 whole thing was the only reason if they had just fucking asked 821 00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:37,470 me if they asked me, if they just said, Hey, you know what, 822 00:46:37,470 --> 00:46:41,190 man? You left, and you're starting your own company and 823 00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:43,860 everything, you know, can we just have the domain name back? 824 00:46:44,370 --> 00:46:46,320 And you know, and I would have said, Could I please keep 825 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,320 adam@mtv.com? That's the only thing I would have asked for. 826 00:46:49,770 --> 00:46:53,430 And, of course, I tried to negotiate that into the 827 00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:58,320 settlement but wasn't able to get it. But they asked me that 828 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,750 that would be the only thing man is there was so nobody 829 00:47:00,750 --> 00:47:02,640 ever does that. They just you know, they get they make 830 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,030 demands. It's weird. Yeah. The funny thing is nowadays, if it 831 00:47:06,030 --> 00:47:08,130 was today that this whole thing happened, you would wouldn't 832 00:47:08,130 --> 00:47:10,740 even have had a hearing the icon people or somebody would have 833 00:47:10,740 --> 00:47:12,090 just taken the domain away from me. 834 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,610 That's right. Yeah, just shut shut me down right there. 835 00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:18,600 Exactly. Exactly. And that is kind of weird. 836 00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:22,740 The system is now set up. So copyright holders and people 837 00:47:22,740 --> 00:47:26,250 with brand names have actually have rights to anybody like you 838 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,270 who happen to be have one of their brand names as a domain 839 00:47:30,270 --> 00:47:32,250 name when you don't really own the brand. 840 00:47:32,610 --> 00:47:36,120 I'm still waiting for someone to eventually come up and say that 841 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,540 curry.com We need to take that away from you. I fully expect 842 00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:40,500 someone to try that. 843 00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:44,670 Yeah, some curried guy from India. Well, no, you have 844 00:47:44,670 --> 00:47:48,090 curries here, the Bombay go to company, we need your domain 845 00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:48,330 name. 846 00:47:50,220 --> 00:47:54,420 We're gonna do Indian accents. Now, John, when we have a 847 00:47:54,420 --> 00:47:56,100 lecture today, it will be much better. 848 00:47:56,730 --> 00:48:01,560 Don't get me started on my Indian accent. You know, I've 849 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,690 always said that that's going to be the prime that is probably 850 00:48:03,690 --> 00:48:06,420 the most popular accent in the world. And people don't do so. 851 00:48:06,420 --> 00:48:09,390 Well. You You're ridiculing the Indians with that accent and no, 852 00:48:09,390 --> 00:48:13,320 I'm not. I'm, I'm giving their their I mean, they're the ones 853 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,310 who have the probably, for all the English speaking peoples. 854 00:48:17,310 --> 00:48:21,180 There's more people that speak like that. Yeah. And by 855 00:48:21,180 --> 00:48:24,960 the way, I'm honouring and by the way, it's totally cool to do 856 00:48:24,990 --> 00:48:30,240 a white guy or, or like a typical American, and, you know, 857 00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:33,900 our southern guy talks like this, you know, redneck guy, you 858 00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:34,650 know, that's okay. 859 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,560 You know, can we all do this thing your big brother started 860 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,070 over here, it started up again, and but it's all messed up. Now 861 00:48:41,070 --> 00:48:44,100 they have a different host. And it's a for some reason, that 862 00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:45,960 just not positioning it the way they used to. And they've 863 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,480 changed it. So that's the you know, you have celebrities who 864 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,060 are playing big brother, and I just can't get into it. And so 865 00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:57,420 but there was a lot of controversy in the previous Big 866 00:48:57,420 --> 00:49:02,190 Brother series, particularly one of the celebrity ones because of 867 00:49:02,190 --> 00:49:06,600 racist remarks. And but I mean, like, really, you know, in this, 868 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,070 this went all the way to Parliament. And, and it's crazy, 869 00:49:11,070 --> 00:49:15,540 John, it's, it's like, people just can't call each other a 870 00:49:15,540 --> 00:49:18,960 name anymore. You know, the way people do because this is the 871 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,080 whole point of Big Brother is particularly with, you know, 872 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,960 people just lose track of the fact that they're being watched 873 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,150 the whole time, and they become themselves and they speak the 874 00:49:27,150 --> 00:49:29,610 way they speak when you're not hearing them speak in public. 875 00:49:29,850 --> 00:49:32,700 And shit slips out amongst each other, you know, and it was a 876 00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:38,580 Pakistani girl, and I think, oh, no, she was Indian. But I don't 877 00:49:38,580 --> 00:49:40,590 remember it was so stupid. I don't remember what it was. But 878 00:49:40,590 --> 00:49:43,320 it was the equivalent of saying, you know, you Paki bitch or 879 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,370 something like that is irrelevant. It was just like, 880 00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:49,410 you know, they were yelling at each other and they were saying 881 00:49:49,410 --> 00:49:53,070 nasty shit back and forth. And this whole racist thing is just 882 00:49:53,610 --> 00:49:58,410 the political correctness that has gone away a bit is still 883 00:49:58,410 --> 00:50:03,990 really lurking pretty heavily See what you can call people you 884 00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:07,290 know, it's like, get take a, you know, take a chill pill, 885 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,680 you can always call them you know, just the old generic 886 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:15,720 things like, asshole. Now, let's get back to this, you just 887 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:18,570 brought up something that's interesting to me. When did the 888 00:50:18,570 --> 00:50:21,480 you know these these reality shows which by the way, even 889 00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:24,720 Mark Burnett who's the guy who essentially invented the genre 890 00:50:25,020 --> 00:50:27,000 likes to call them unscripted drama. 891 00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:31,740 I disagree. I think animals start really, really was the 892 00:50:31,740 --> 00:50:32,340 first one. 893 00:50:32,340 --> 00:50:35,400 He's the one who popularised it with survivor that in the United 894 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,800 States anyway, ya know, the English will probably did it 895 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,820 first. No, no, but he's gonna want to talk to a new level. And 896 00:50:41,820 --> 00:50:44,370 his new level was a dis unscripted drama, which means 897 00:50:44,370 --> 00:50:46,710 that you put a bunch of people in a room and then you actually, 898 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,250 you don't have writers, but yet you do. But you have, you have 899 00:50:50,250 --> 00:50:53,010 scenarios and you say, Hey, here's what I want you to do. I 900 00:50:53,010 --> 00:50:55,800 want you to throw a wine, a glass of wine in the guy's face, 901 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,400 and then leave him and you know, get ready, shoot, you know, and 902 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,800 then they do a bunch of ad libs. You know, essentially, the 903 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,630 people on the show are writing the show. And then they said, 904 00:51:03,930 --> 00:51:06,900 Let's try something else. It's dropping an atom. And then you 905 00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:09,750 know, the whole thing is a is a fake show. They have the and 906 00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:14,280 everything's pre pre done. I mean, there's no reality here. 907 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,890 It's just a bunch of amateur actors. And, 908 00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:20,490 and just, just to be honest, a lot of those shows, it's still 909 00:51:20,490 --> 00:51:23,910 the editing that really, really makes it work. Because if you if 910 00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:27,540 you literally did it the way you just said it would be 911 00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:29,280 unwatchable. So watch out. 912 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,010 Right, you have to do a lot of post production. So all the 913 00:51:32,010 --> 00:51:35,670 money goes into that now. Now, let's go back to this question 914 00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:38,010 that came to mind when you were discussing this other thing. 915 00:51:38,670 --> 00:51:41,370 When did the reality show because originally, the reality 916 00:51:41,370 --> 00:51:44,460 shows I remember the first I think was the bachelor. And they 917 00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:46,890 had in it after the whole show was over, you found out that the 918 00:51:46,890 --> 00:51:50,580 guy was an actor and a woman that one was an actress Adele 919 00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:55,740 was not successful and and at some point, they switched gears 920 00:51:55,740 --> 00:51:58,650 and they decided why do we why are we getting these amateurs? 921 00:51:58,650 --> 00:52:00,720 Why don't we get real celebrities and put them in 922 00:52:00,750 --> 00:52:03,900 awkward situations. In other words, that's fine. Some major 923 00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:08,190 has bends, or wannabes that are slightly on the edge of, you 924 00:52:08,190 --> 00:52:11,700 know, success, you know, Guy skating stars, and people like 925 00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:15,810 that, and put them in our in our house. And we'll shoot it and 926 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,210 and the heck with just to having, you know, members of the 927 00:52:18,210 --> 00:52:20,820 public audition for this sort of thing. Let's just go with the 928 00:52:20,820 --> 00:52:23,040 celebrity thing and see if people are fascinated by it. 929 00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:26,340 When did that change? And when did that happen? Have you been 930 00:52:26,340 --> 00:52:28,530 fine? Because I know you did one of these shows, and you're kind 931 00:52:28,530 --> 00:52:29,430 of like a celebrity. 932 00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:37,200 So you're absolutely right. And, you know, it used to be game 933 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,710 shows, and you'd have the same typing like panelbase game 934 00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:45,600 shows, you'd have the same type of, I call them D liberties. So 935 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,650 you know, a rung lower than a celebrity. And you know, and 936 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,870 they'd sit on panels and sometimes it you know, some 937 00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:56,940 something could break out. But I think it really just carried 938 00:52:56,940 --> 00:53:01,260 over into this new format. The big secret about show business, 939 00:53:01,260 --> 00:53:03,330 which I think by now or certainly the television 940 00:53:03,330 --> 00:53:06,000 business, we've all kind of figured out everyone I mean, I 941 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,690 come from this industry so I know that really there's very 942 00:53:09,690 --> 00:53:13,530 few people making a lot of money outside of the corporations you 943 00:53:13,530 --> 00:53:18,480 know, people who present the news you know, the anchor with 944 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,000 varying degrees obviously when you look at like the top 945 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,140 networks bought but that's only like three or four jobs that 946 00:53:25,140 --> 00:53:28,170 really pay a lot of money of all the people you see on 947 00:53:28,170 --> 00:53:32,070 television, and most of them are really just fucking struggling 948 00:53:32,070 --> 00:53:35,280 to get by because you just get paid shit money and it's like 949 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,740 MTV people work their non union for absolute total fucking crap 950 00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:46,410 money. Almost you on the below the the starvation line for New 951 00:53:46,410 --> 00:53:50,820 York City, just because you wanted to be a part of it. And 952 00:53:50,820 --> 00:53:53,670 you and everyone in those industries is taken advantage of 953 00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:57,990 in that way. Unless you know you've you've been able to get 954 00:53:58,020 --> 00:54:02,100 get basically on that rung, right. The and by the way, being 955 00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:05,490 a VJ is pretty much the lowest rung of the showbiz ladder, you 956 00:54:05,490 --> 00:54:09,900 just hold on by your fingernails. Before you actually 957 00:54:09,930 --> 00:54:12,900 get anywhere and everyone is there, everyone's looking to 958 00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:16,590 climb up. And this is why there's so manipulable first of 959 00:54:16,590 --> 00:54:18,810 all, that's you know, that's why it's so easy for news 960 00:54:18,810 --> 00:54:22,170 organisations to beat the output to be controlled by just putting 961 00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:25,890 some sprinkling something at the top, because everyone is a 962 00:54:25,890 --> 00:54:28,830 subordinate to someone else, and they just will do anything, 963 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,850 including sucking someone's dick to get one level higher because 964 00:54:32,970 --> 00:54:36,030 it is literally power control and money. And that's what 965 00:54:36,030 --> 00:54:40,140 everyone is doing. So you have show business and you're right. 966 00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:45,120 Because there's so much access so many channels for people to 967 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,200 appear on. People are becoming famous just for being on the 968 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,590 television, even if they don't actually do anything. Or they 969 00:54:52,590 --> 00:54:55,530 did one outrageous thing like they did a sex tape and then and 970 00:54:55,530 --> 00:54:58,650 they're an heiress, you know and you can build an entire career 971 00:54:58,650 --> 00:55:01,680 and brand out of that. So you It's an industry that you can 972 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:07,860 play. And it's, it's it's the entry. So you rarely will ever 973 00:55:07,860 --> 00:55:13,110 see a top top notch celebrity. But in your mind, you may think 974 00:55:13,110 --> 00:55:16,860 that the people who are appearing on some of these shows 975 00:55:16,860 --> 00:55:19,860 are wow, you know, why would that guy be doing that? You 976 00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:22,440 know, does he need the money? Well, the answer is, yes, they 977 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,410 need the fucking money. They need the exposure, because 978 00:55:25,410 --> 00:55:29,280 that's how the entire system works. Now, but to say that it 979 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:34,140 really started with one thing. You know, I did my own media 980 00:55:34,140 --> 00:55:37,290 hacking after I saw what happened with the Osborne's, you 981 00:55:37,290 --> 00:55:41,220 know, and that's been going on for a while. That was 2003 I 982 00:55:41,220 --> 00:55:45,030 think. Something like 2002 Actually, when they did that guy 983 00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:49,290 who, who produced the Osborne's reality show, was an associate 984 00:55:49,290 --> 00:55:51,750 producer on the headbangers ball, Greg Johnson. I knew the 985 00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:55,260 guy really well. And it was like, What a brilliant idea 986 00:55:55,260 --> 00:55:57,480 because he basically knew Ozzy you know, and Ozzy was all 987 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,080 fucked up and, and it was, it was a great, you know, you he 988 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,310 was struggling need something needed to happen. And, you know, 989 00:56:05,340 --> 00:56:10,290 basically, they didn't MTV just took advantage of a strong out, 990 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,900 you know, drunk Rockstar in his 50s. And their family because 991 00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:19,080 it's cheap as programming. I mean, this it really is the 992 00:56:19,230 --> 00:56:23,700 there's no brilliance to it. itself. What is the longest 993 00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:27,150 running show in American history at this moment? Do you know what 994 00:56:27,150 --> 00:56:31,590 that is? What America's Funniest Home Videos, it's the same 995 00:56:31,590 --> 00:56:35,250 fucking thing. We love watching that. It's the same thing. Hey, 996 00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:37,380 don't even pay for those videos. It's weird. 997 00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:41,580 No, no the day and they become their property even, you know, 998 00:56:41,580 --> 00:56:45,540 it's like, it's not even yours anymore. So when when I when 999 00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:48,750 they asked me to do a reality show about my family unlike? 1000 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,080 Yeah, absolutely. This will be great, because I did the whole 1001 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,800 thing on Final Cut Pro and FireWire drives. I had one 1002 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,700 cameraman I did second camera. And I had a girl who was you 1003 00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:01,890 know, edit, really putting the show together, she had all the 1004 00:57:01,890 --> 00:57:04,710 posts, you know, and she was so good that, you know, I could 1005 00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:08,340 basically just give all the material to her and she'd put it 1006 00:57:08,340 --> 00:57:10,380 together and then I'd take a look at it and I know it would 1007 00:57:10,380 --> 00:57:14,430 work and I even did the subtitle translations myself. And it was 1008 00:57:14,460 --> 00:57:19,170 it was a fantastic project. And although everything you saw 1009 00:57:19,170 --> 00:57:22,740 happened and it wasn't acted, you know, we really made it into 1010 00:57:22,740 --> 00:57:26,400 a fun show to watch you know, just really well post produced 1011 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,880 and your great soundtrack, you know, so we turned it into it 1012 00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:33,480 you know, something really a cool fucking edit, you know, but 1013 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,180 it really happened. It's just the show was really all the 1014 00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:38,820 other bits that pulled it together was just a product so 1015 00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:41,580 so can you stop the tape for one second? 1016 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,580 The tape? Yes. All right. Okay, no problem. quick phone call. 1017 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,540 Anyway, so I got my thank you for well making Maggie wait on 1018 00:57:51,540 --> 00:57:54,390 the phone while I did my rant there. He's still there. Yeah, 1019 00:57:54,420 --> 00:57:58,830 can you hear me? Hello? Hello. Hello. Do you hear me? 1020 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,170 Yeah. When you call 1021 00:58:01,590 --> 00:58:05,220 a go. They went into hibernation or something? Yeah, went 1022 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:10,530 into hibernation screen blank sad. did by the way, this isn't 1023 00:58:10,530 --> 00:58:13,860 worth discussing. It's always fascinated me. So we have these 1024 00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:17,820 Windows machines and you're doing something like a download 1025 00:58:17,820 --> 00:58:20,100 or you're doing something like the Skype that we're doing and 1026 00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:24,030 then the machine goes to sleep goes to sleep because you're not 1027 00:58:24,030 --> 00:58:28,110 touching the keyboard. Yeah. Doesn't it know that there's 1028 00:58:28,110 --> 00:58:31,290 activity and the ports going in and out and maybe you know it 1029 00:58:31,290 --> 00:58:33,330 shouldn't be just shutting itself off? I'm 1030 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:39,750 you know, I'm sure that that there's an API in in Windows 1031 00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:43,410 that the application probably has to speak to to say you know 1032 00:58:43,410 --> 00:58:46,290 paying I'm still alive don't shut down and it's probably just 1033 00:58:46,830 --> 00:58:47,820 developers who just 1034 00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:51,570 know you're probably right but nobody puts it in. Well, you 1035 00:58:51,570 --> 00:58:53,760 know, the headphones I use for this show and all my other 1036 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,680 shows. No, which are just barely falling apart. There are some 1037 00:58:58,710 --> 00:59:05,490 Pan Am headphones from an aeroplane in the 60s. Made by T 1038 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,040 Q trade Ltd. 1039 00:59:08,970 --> 00:59:11,520 Take a picture man you got a blog a picture of them. 1040 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:17,580 They sound great. My daughter gives me nothing but grief about 1041 00:59:17,580 --> 00:59:20,850 it. Which is why he isn't those cheap aeroplane headphones. You 1042 00:59:20,850 --> 00:59:24,060 know why? So because they're from Pan Am. You know, and they 1043 00:59:24,060 --> 00:59:27,420 have like a metal thing. They're not like the plastic junk ones 1044 00:59:27,420 --> 00:59:28,350 that we have today. 1045 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,070 I don't have junk ones, dude. Oh, you mean on the aeroplane 1046 00:59:32,070 --> 00:59:32,700 headphones? 1047 00:59:32,730 --> 00:59:34,680 Yeah, the free ones. The free ones that you you would you 1048 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,460 know, Virgin Atlantic has great headphones. Well, I've 1049 00:59:38,490 --> 00:59:40,500 seen it been on a couple planes that have great headphones, but 1050 00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:44,190 it's pretty rare and noise cancelling everything. Really on 1051 00:59:44,190 --> 00:59:47,430 Virgin? Really? Yeah, they gotta like electronically noise 1052 00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:49,710 cancelling. You can turn the noise cancelling on or off now I 1053 00:59:49,710 --> 00:59:55,350 use the sony MDR V six hundreds. I've used them for a long time. 1054 00:59:55,650 --> 00:59:59,250 Yeah, those are okay. I use a couple of courses usually 1055 00:59:59,430 --> 01:00:03,270 and As you know, we used to back in back in the days of the radio 1056 01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:06,150 everybody, come on clamp up on money, Johnny, I'll tell you the 1057 01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:12,360 story. We used Clark helicopter headsets. Well, Dick Clark 1058 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,420 helicopter headsets and so you take off the the mouthpiece but 1059 01:00:15,420 --> 01:00:20,460 you basically put a new sound guys didn't put in, put new 1060 01:00:20,460 --> 01:00:22,530 elements in, you know, the different speakers, you could 1061 01:00:22,530 --> 01:00:25,620 just use the ones that were that it came with, because they 1062 01:00:25,620 --> 01:00:28,320 really close around your ear. So you wouldn't get any feedback 1063 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,170 through the mic. When you were listening to your because you 1064 01:00:31,170 --> 01:00:33,150 know, you had the mixed signal on your head, right? You hear 1065 01:00:33,150 --> 01:00:33,690 yourself right, 1066 01:00:33,690 --> 01:00:36,540 you could modulate it was for Module people for modulating 1067 01:00:36,540 --> 01:00:37,470 your voice. Yeah, 1068 01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:41,910 like that. And then and then I have another pair, this is a one 1069 01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:48,420 of these another EKGs. And when you take the EKGs off, they cut 1070 01:00:48,420 --> 01:00:51,660 off, which is pretty cool. So you don't have to turn them down 1071 01:00:51,660 --> 01:00:55,470 if you if you have a pair laying around. That could be there 1072 01:00:55,470 --> 01:00:57,540 could produce feedback. So the minute you take them off your 1073 01:00:57,540 --> 01:00:59,250 head, then they just cut off, which is nice. 1074 01:00:59,819 --> 01:01:03,749 But the most interesting ones I have is I have a pair of costs 1075 01:01:03,779 --> 01:01:09,179 electro stats. Yep. Nice. That came out in the 70s or 80s. It's 1076 01:01:09,179 --> 01:01:12,959 like two electrostatic elements inside extremely high resolution 1077 01:01:12,959 --> 01:01:17,939 that very nice ribbon right? Is no electrostatic is not red 1078 01:01:17,939 --> 01:01:20,189 ribbons, I think a different technology electrostatics or 1079 01:01:20,189 --> 01:01:23,759 these, these these plates that sit on top of each other and 1080 01:01:23,759 --> 01:01:25,229 somehow produce sound I'm not sure 1081 01:01:25,230 --> 01:01:28,590 I thought that was what because I know a guy who had two of 1082 01:01:28,590 --> 01:01:32,190 those huge ribbon speakers that really flat and they've you 1083 01:01:32,190 --> 01:01:35,730 know, strips of ribbon down the front of like a ribbon. 1084 01:01:36,450 --> 01:01:39,810 We need a speaker expert to send us a note explaining the history 1085 01:01:39,810 --> 01:01:41,880 in river ribbon and electrostatic 1086 01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:45,210 and don't think by the way that a million people have already 1087 01:01:45,210 --> 01:01:46,470 sent us the link. 1088 01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:49,740 Right? The probably one guy will do it thinking that somebody 1089 01:01:49,740 --> 01:01:52,830 else did it. So you have more stuff on by and large. 1090 01:01:53,550 --> 01:01:58,050 I just forwarded you the email I didn't take a look at I'm I'm 1091 01:01:58,050 --> 01:02:02,310 already not caring anymore. Sorry. 1092 01:02:03,300 --> 01:02:04,980 I like themes. I like things. 1093 01:02:05,580 --> 01:02:08,100 That's why I sent you the email. You gotta go you should be 1094 01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:10,470 prepared. You come to the show without any notes. 1095 01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:11,910 It pretty much 1096 01:02:11,940 --> 01:02:14,850 I got I got a question for you. We gotta wrap this up. It's an 1097 01:02:14,850 --> 01:02:19,470 hour people get fucking bored. I promise comic strip blogger by 1098 01:02:19,470 --> 01:02:21,720 the way. Did you hear the yo agenda show? 1099 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,080 Yeah, it's two guys. I mean, the two guys just talking to each 1100 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,050 other, you can barely understand them. They're both from, you 1101 01:02:28,050 --> 01:02:30,030 know, east, or 1102 01:02:33,390 --> 01:02:37,320 Dutch and he lives in Finland and comic strip. Boger is Polish 1103 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,310 and lives in Germany. 1104 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,940 Well, whatever. They both sound like they live someplace, you 1105 01:02:41,940 --> 01:02:47,430 know, in a garbage dump. Whatever the case, the day, they 1106 01:02:47,430 --> 01:02:50,370 have, like, their contribution as well. You know, these two 1107 01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:54,450 guys are talking and, you know, they don't have much to say and 1108 01:02:54,450 --> 01:02:58,530 I think this show needs to get needs work. Yeah. That's what 1109 01:02:58,710 --> 01:03:01,440 I'm like, you know, they think that we just aren't really that 1110 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:01,950 good. 1111 01:03:03,150 --> 01:03:06,090 They think we suck. And they think that I'm just kissing your 1112 01:03:06,090 --> 01:03:08,880 ass because you're the boss of this company pod show. 1113 01:03:08,940 --> 01:03:11,010 That's right. That's right. 1114 01:03:12,210 --> 01:03:17,160 Yeah. When I'm kissing ass, it's pretty obvious. And this ain't 1115 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:17,490 it. 1116 01:03:17,730 --> 01:03:22,110 So I've always wondered about your name? Dvorak? Yeah. 1117 01:03:22,110 --> 01:03:25,710 Devorah. Yeah. DeVore at the origin. And and obviously, is 1118 01:03:25,710 --> 01:03:29,640 there any relevance to the Devora? Keyboard? 1119 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,620 Well, none that I know of I one time I said that there was a you 1120 01:03:34,620 --> 01:03:38,250 know that the Vortech was August Dvorak, as a matter of fact, the 1121 01:03:38,250 --> 01:03:41,790 University of Washington did the keyboard in the mid 30s. You 1122 01:03:41,790 --> 01:03:46,110 know, based on theory, and I don't think there's any 1123 01:03:46,110 --> 01:03:49,110 relationship there. Most of the divorce acts came from a bunch 1124 01:03:49,110 --> 01:03:52,530 of checks that moved to the country, including the famous 1125 01:03:52,530 --> 01:03:57,870 divorce jock, the composer who lived in the US for a while, and 1126 01:03:57,870 --> 01:04:00,870 I guess he sired a lot of people. And 1127 01:04:01,109 --> 01:04:03,749 you're part of his demon seed. You're an officer. Well, 1128 01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:08,970 I have a I have a one octave plus one key range on my hand, 1129 01:04:09,330 --> 01:04:13,920 if that means anything. No, I can hit like it. I finally got a 1130 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,250 big, you know, some, some really stretch, right? Okay. Yeah, I 1131 01:04:17,250 --> 01:04:21,630 can get the guy can do over the over an octave. And on a piano. 1132 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,670 And, guys, I like to say that, yeah, I'd like to say yeah, 1133 01:04:26,670 --> 01:04:28,290 there's some relationship because it's good for the 1134 01:04:28,290 --> 01:04:30,270 reputation, but they have no documentation to 1135 01:04:30,270 --> 01:04:32,970 prove it. Have you ever tried to Devorah keyboard? 1136 01:04:33,930 --> 01:04:39,330 Yeah, they stink. That's the GI have I looked at I mean, I mean, 1137 01:04:39,330 --> 01:04:41,370 it's an interesting idea. But if you're going to dedicate 1138 01:04:41,370 --> 01:04:43,650 yourself to Dvorak keyboard, you can't do what I do, which is 1139 01:04:43,650 --> 01:04:46,980 roam around and, you know, can I use your machine, you know, and 1140 01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:50,010 then you try, you know, I'm like a slow typer anyway, because I 1141 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,700 kind of plod along, and especially I get on a European 1142 01:04:53,700 --> 01:04:56,280 keyboard. It's like you got to just almost stop because there's 1143 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,260 just enough keys change, 1144 01:04:58,590 --> 01:05:01,890 like this Zed and The queue, and there's 1145 01:05:01,890 --> 01:05:04,380 a candidate some blood, all the punctuation marks are moved 1146 01:05:04,380 --> 01:05:05,550 around places. Yep, 1147 01:05:05,550 --> 01:05:09,810 punctuation moves from the number, like three or two key to 1148 01:05:10,380 --> 01:05:14,340 somewhere above the the apostrophe is pretty much so 1149 01:05:14,340 --> 01:05:16,770 you look like a complete Americans. European keyword, you 1150 01:05:16,770 --> 01:05:21,720 look like you don't even know how to type. Go, what the hell 1151 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,050 is it? Yeah, exactly. Then that's the way I feel when I'm 1152 01:05:25,050 --> 01:05:28,680 on a Devora keyboard. I mean, just not usable. Yeah. 1153 01:05:29,070 --> 01:05:31,860 But there's got to be a better way. There's got to be better 1154 01:05:31,860 --> 01:05:33,270 inputs, someone's gonna 1155 01:05:33,660 --> 01:05:35,880 be able to just say what we want, and it should type. 1156 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,010 Where's the automatic typewriter? They had one in a 1157 01:05:38,010 --> 01:05:40,470 Star Trek show back in the turn. 60. 1158 01:05:40,470 --> 01:05:42,480 It turns out that it's pretty complicated. 1159 01:05:43,950 --> 01:05:47,940 too complicated to do. Yeah. Yeah. Promises, Promises, 1160 01:05:47,940 --> 01:05:49,860 promises. We've been promised all these things with these 1161 01:05:49,860 --> 01:05:51,960 computers, and they don't deliver much except 1162 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:52,980 spreadsheets, which, 1163 01:05:53,189 --> 01:05:57,299 which leads me to believe that, you know, there is someone's 1164 01:05:57,299 --> 01:05:59,309 going to come up with something, there's going to be some new way 1165 01:05:59,309 --> 01:06:01,979 to do it. You know, someone's going to figure it out. There's 1166 01:06:01,979 --> 01:06:04,559 got to be an alternative path. This one is dead. There's just 1167 01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:05,189 no way. 1168 01:06:06,810 --> 01:06:09,840 Yeah, well, although you have to say, you know, like, my son is a 1169 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,060 good example. I think my daughter is going to end up this 1170 01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:15,090 way too. And my son's one of those. I don't know what he's 1171 01:06:15,090 --> 01:06:17,790 hitting. But it's like 160 words a minute or something. And you 1172 01:06:17,790 --> 01:06:22,170 see these kids do that. humbling. It's like, ripping, 1173 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,560 ripping through this stuff. And then two or three backspace is, 1174 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:26,100 of course, the 1175 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,440 daughter's the same way. 1176 01:06:31,919 --> 01:06:35,249 And then it just another screaming laughs 1177 01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:43,560 Yeah, I know. It's unbelievable. And it's all on Facebook. That's 1178 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,460 all. That's pretty amazing. I have gotten my daughter to take 1179 01:06:47,460 --> 01:06:49,830 off her address and her phone number. And I've warned her 1180 01:06:49,830 --> 01:06:52,620 about a couple things as it you know, you know, these kids they, 1181 01:06:53,070 --> 01:06:55,320 they believe it right? They totally she's, you know, 1182 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,900 Facebook is safe, man. Because you can set your settings. Look, 1183 01:06:57,900 --> 01:07:01,320 I'll show is it not? I know, but how about fucking Facebook? What 1184 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:02,310 are those guys doing? 1185 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,450 And and you don't want to put any real details on it. You lie? 1186 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,410 No. And well, you know, she's like, you know, Facebook is so 1187 01:07:10,410 --> 01:07:13,440 smart. Because, you know, she works part time, you know, like, 1188 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,680 after school job and on the weekends at at a clothing store 1189 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,710 to real hot, you know, one of those Jack wills, which is real 1190 01:07:19,710 --> 01:07:22,170 high end shit. And of course, they just have beautiful kids 1191 01:07:22,170 --> 01:07:25,230 roaming around helping people buy stuff, and it's a great 1192 01:07:25,230 --> 01:07:29,460 concept. And she's, you know, our manager, put together a 1193 01:07:29,460 --> 01:07:33,030 Facebook group for so that, you know, we all know our times when 1194 01:07:33,030 --> 01:07:37,440 we have to be there. And yeah, it really is. It's a you know, 1195 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,170 it's kind of like the new AOL for them or the, you know, the 1196 01:07:40,170 --> 01:07:44,640 new whatever. Yeah, it's all the same stuff. It's all it's all a 1197 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,950 new version of what's always existed. 1198 01:07:48,330 --> 01:07:49,260 Yeah, pretty much, 1199 01:07:49,290 --> 01:07:51,690 you know, just like AOL, you know, and then that became the 1200 01:07:51,690 --> 01:07:54,300 internet. And now this is this, and it'll become the internet 1201 01:07:54,300 --> 01:07:56,730 again, and it'll open up and 1202 01:07:58,290 --> 01:08:01,020 ya know, I think there's a lot of kids that, you know, that 1203 01:08:01,020 --> 01:08:03,180 aren't security conscious. Oh, no, 1204 01:08:03,180 --> 01:08:07,020 no idea. No, absolutely not. And they give each other their own 1205 01:08:07,020 --> 01:08:09,450 their passwords all the time. That's a big cultural thing, you 1206 01:08:09,450 --> 01:08:09,750 know? 1207 01:08:10,890 --> 01:08:13,620 Yeah. And the worst part about the problem with passwords, or 1208 01:08:13,620 --> 01:08:16,950 why don't like given a mouse, even when I'm alone. One is that 1209 01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:21,000 I have multiple uses. I have about six passwords. Yeah. And I 1210 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,360 use them over and over again, in different venues, like almost 1211 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:29,010 all my ecommerce stuff, if I'm like, doing anything that has to 1212 01:08:29,010 --> 01:08:31,950 do with the blog, I use the same password for all of it. 1213 01:08:32,220 --> 01:08:36,450 You know, just just you saying that right now, is already a 1214 01:08:36,450 --> 01:08:37,470 security risk. 1215 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,500 Yeah, I shouldn't even mention, although I think anyone who's 1216 01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:44,640 really into like hacking people know that this goes on. In fact, 1217 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,910 I've always believed that I'm no and I worry about this things 1218 01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:50,550 that I would consider to be honey pots. In other words, I 1219 01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:53,940 set up a site I said, once you know, join the site, and I have 1220 01:08:53,940 --> 01:08:56,010 to offer him something like give you a free something or other. 1221 01:08:56,250 --> 01:08:59,130 And then you say in yours, set your name. What do you want to 1222 01:08:59,130 --> 01:09:03,210 call yourself? Give yourself a password, that password I bet 1223 01:09:03,210 --> 01:09:06,030 that person uses more than there and if I was like running the 1224 01:09:06,030 --> 01:09:09,150 site, I could I could harvest those passwords. And then you 1225 01:09:09,150 --> 01:09:12,270 know, kind of find the IP address of the person you got to 1226 01:09:12,270 --> 01:09:15,390 who they are, use their password and crack half their accounts. 1227 01:09:15,420 --> 01:09:17,400 Yep. That's right. 1228 01:09:20,609 --> 01:09:23,819 So I usually I mean, my most secure of the secure I do have 1229 01:09:23,819 --> 01:09:26,969 an extremely secure password that I use occasionally. But I 1230 01:09:26,969 --> 01:09:29,999 only rarely use it and it's only for stuff that I would really 1231 01:09:29,999 --> 01:09:32,189 worry about. But generally speaking, you 1232 01:09:32,190 --> 01:09:33,660 know, you're in as it's 1233 01:09:33,719 --> 01:09:40,169 a long it's complicated. You know, it's not a password that I 1234 01:09:40,169 --> 01:09:42,959 don't like use it because it's just just, it's tedious. 1235 01:09:43,259 --> 01:09:48,059 Right? I really liked the I have two different bank, online banks 1236 01:09:48,059 --> 01:09:51,269 or banks I can access online and I really love the challenge 1237 01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:54,389 stirring thing you know, you get a little reader and you punch in 1238 01:09:54,389 --> 01:09:57,899 your code and then it gives you a challenge string and the field 1239 01:09:57,899 --> 01:10:00,119 ID and I like that. I wish all sides did it like that. Why 1240 01:10:01,620 --> 01:10:04,680 don't you tell you about a CAPTCHA? No, no, 1241 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,980 no, it's a physical device. And you have to insert your bank 1242 01:10:07,980 --> 01:10:13,110 card into the device. Oh, and then so in order to log into 1243 01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:15,420 your bank account, and basically, you know, you're in 1244 01:10:15,420 --> 01:10:19,530 need transferring money, then so you have to enter your PIN code. 1245 01:10:21,180 --> 01:10:25,170 And then it gives you some, you'll have to enter a code from 1246 01:10:25,170 --> 01:10:28,740 the site. And then it gives you a challenge string back and some 1247 01:10:28,770 --> 01:10:32,880 a, you know, based on some other whatever, but it essentially, it 1248 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,520 pretty much is assures that you're the one that's doing it, 1249 01:10:35,820 --> 01:10:38,460 you know, and it's nothing to remember. It's just Oh, the only 1250 01:10:38,460 --> 01:10:42,990 thing I remember is my PIN code. Cool. Yeah, I you know, I wish 1251 01:10:42,990 --> 01:10:46,080 everyone did it that way. That would be just the way to do it. 1252 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:46,530 I think. 1253 01:10:47,070 --> 01:10:50,220 Well, there's you know, there's there's a lot to be desired with 1254 01:10:50,220 --> 01:10:54,840 the security in these systems. But yeah. So I guess that's it 1255 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:55,500 for this week. 1256 01:10:55,830 --> 01:11:01,560 It should be an hour and 10 minutes, I wonder. 1257 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,130 I'm sure you can pull 10 minutes out of it. I'm not gonna pull 1258 01:11:05,130 --> 01:11:09,150 anything out of it. You crazy. You're gonna pull it okay. Oh, 1259 01:11:09,450 --> 01:11:13,410 that's you want to be that way? What's the faster this down to a 1260 01:11:13,410 --> 01:11:15,300 fantastic 10 minute show? 1261 01:11:16,770 --> 01:11:18,120 The numbers are still going up, though. 1262 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,370 John. Are they? What is their numbers? 1263 01:11:20,879 --> 01:11:23,879 I think we do like them. We'd like 10,000 An episode. 1264 01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:28,500 Really? That's not bad. No, not at all. In a real in a real 1265 01:11:28,500 --> 01:11:31,320 sense. That shouldn't be worth $10,000. 1266 01:11:32,370 --> 01:11:40,530 No, it would be 10 CPMs. A CPM being about 25 bucks. 1267 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,340 Yeah, that's a that's a CPM for one ad, but in an hour and 10 1268 01:11:44,340 --> 01:11:50,430 minutes show, you should be able to do multiple CPM inserts, you 1269 01:11:50,430 --> 01:11:56,100 know, intelligent television, television for people out there 1270 01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:59,040 want to know what how they budget these shows, in broadcast 1271 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,180 television, and what our show is worth $1 ahead in terms of what 1272 01:12:03,180 --> 01:12:07,380 they should be able to recoup. So a one hour show that has 10 1273 01:12:07,380 --> 01:12:10,440 million viewers should have a budget of $10 million for 1274 01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:10,860 everything. 1275 01:12:10,889 --> 01:12:17,099 Yeah, right. That's about it varies between 800,000 and 1276 01:12:17,099 --> 01:12:18,209 million, but that's about right. 1277 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,030 Yeah. And that, of course, it depends on the time and the you 1278 01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:23,460 all there's a lot of there are variables if it's primetime, 1279 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:28,590 real primetime stuff. Yeah, but that's good money. Yeah, well, 1280 01:12:28,590 --> 01:12:28,950 yeah, we 1281 01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:30,270 could we could do a couple ads. 1282 01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:33,090 Yeah, we'll do them when we need to. 1283 01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:41,640 Share really, I burned up a lot today in the air. That's what my 1284 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,240 first my first instructor said. You know, just one thing you 1285 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,700 realise you're actually burning money in the air, don't you? 1286 01:12:51,810 --> 01:12:54,810 Yeah, well, it's like when you go shooting with somebody. You 1287 01:12:54,810 --> 01:12:56,400 always hope somebody invites you because those 1288 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,250 bullets are expensive. Two bucks a pop or something like that. 1289 01:12:59,850 --> 01:13:02,130 Some of these bullets are even more than that, especially those 1290 01:13:02,130 --> 01:13:03,180 big weird ones. 1291 01:13:03,630 --> 01:13:09,720 It's crazy. All right. Let's wrap it up. All right. Okay, 1292 01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:14,700 coming to you from the United Kingdom in the curry manner. I'm 1293 01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:15,390 Adam curry. 1294 01:13:16,290 --> 01:13:18,750 And I'm John C. Dvorak in Northern California. 1295 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,570 And we'll talk to you next week on no agenda. 1296 01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:26,460 The best and the brightest served up daily by the sharpest 1297 01:13:26,460 --> 01:13:29,610 minds in content delivery poncho and Limelight