Hey wanna kidney? Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
It is Thursday, July 30 2009. Time for your Gitmo nation audio
publication episode 117. This is no agenda coming to you from the
minimum security containment cell known as the crackpot
command centre in the undisclosed loft location under
threat of eminent domain and get more nation West. At San
Francisco, California. I'm Adam curry.
And from Silicon Valley north where it's garbage pickup day,
I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg Vaughn and Buzz Buzzkill.
See how soft it was? I couldn't get to the fader on time. Sorry.
Okay, now I'll fix it in post. No, you won't. Yes, I would.
That one I will fix him post. Hey, John, how you doing? Okay.
Yeah, good. Little bit of equipment failure here today,
but we're live.
Yeah, your MIDI controller blew up. Yeah, so
my setup is so perfect man. This little fader Fox which I have to
say has been through so many TSA checks that you know every
single time I open up my suitcase like okay what knob is
busted now it's got scotch tape all over it holding the battery
pack together and now just finally doesn't no longer
communicates with the MIDI interface so I have to do faders
by hand. I'll
show can you get another one?
Yeah from Germany. have to order it Do they still make them yeah
fader Fox dot d
they should be giving them to you for free with all that
publicity. Yeah,
they should. Well, we have some money so I can buy a new one
it's no it's no problem. It's just the hassle of waiting
because I won't have it before Sunday. And it just it sucks
because then you know I can't do levels I can't do my levels
so get you some clips this week.
I noticed well if you just a few John really?
So there's one that may we should just play at the front of
the show because it's kind of entertaining and but it's making
me wonder exactly how much the government is getting involved
in our media. Play the this is a clip from a 1933 movie a gold
diggers in 1933 To be specific and I want you to play this this
is clips about I think it's about 4550 seconds is a little
long, but play it because I think it's interesting to see
you can see where the propaganda has been slipped in just listen
to this clip. It's a Dick Powell saying they got something what
kind of a march effect March rhythm to it. Yes, I have. I
have something about a forgotten man. But I don't have the words
to it yet. Play a fire. I'll tell you I just gotten the idea
for it last night was down times were watching those men in the
red line. standing out in the rain waiting for coffee and
donut. men out of a job around the soup kitchen staff. God
that's what this shows about the depression. Marching marching.
Marching, marching. That's
got me I was all ready to fire it off. jobs and jobs for jobs.
You got me that was a good one.
Well, of course the media has been infiltrated, indoctrinated
and owned by big media by big business and the government for
years. This was from what 1950s? You said
1933.
Have you seen the most recent Harry and Louise healthcare
advertisements? John?
No, I have not seen any Harry and Louise healthcare.
This is a lovely little piece which I caught on C span as you
know, we have to we have to watch last. And
by the way, we should be getting huge donations for this torture.
We really should. Here's the setup from the C span host it's
actually pretty good. Well,
we use ads. And what we thought we would do is show you the
evolution of these ads, including the most recent one
spin off of those ads, which was released this past Thursday.
Okay, so first, you're gonna get a pro. What listen to because
basically the way
before you play it, can you give us a little background on these
ads? Because I've never seen any of them. These are
the slew of health care ads that are basically promoting the the
Obama health care bill. And so first we get I think it's like,
for some reason, it's an anti ad. Well, you'll follow along
and I'll tell you what, what you're actually seeing on the
Democratic National Committee. Here's what they look like. Of
course, they're all from the Democratic National Committee.
So what So first, they show a little bit of an anti health
care ad and then they start responding to so this is
somewhere in the future covered under oath.
Yeah, that was a good one, wasn't it? Things are changing.
And not all for the better. The government may force us to pick
from a few health care plans designed by government
bureaucrats having choices
we don't like it's no choice at all. they choose, we lose for
reforms that
protect what we have called toll free. No the fact okay, if we
let the government choose, we lose, right so so first they set
it up with a little piece from the Coalition for health
insurance choices in the Health Insurance Association of America
and now they start hammering against it. In the same ad
today.
You probably seen a yuppie couple named Harry and Louise on
TV recently questioning the President's health care plan.
Well, I thought I'd bring you up to date.
You got to know this guy is standing in a graveyard, Harry
lost
his job and also his insurance, Louisa and a small struggling
company that couldn't afford group insurance, so she'd always
dependent on Harry's policy. Unfortunately, she had a pre
existing condition that prevented her from obtaining new
coverage. Now it's true, Louise should have gone into the
hospital earlier, but she didn't want to eat into their savings.
Eventually, she and Harry gave up their country club
memberships and sold their expensive foreign car, but by
then it was too late.
And now that big reveal he's in the graveyard. Very nice
service. Here. He doesn't get out here much. He got a job
making commercials in another state. A new company doesn't
have an insurance plan. And after paying off Louise's
hospital bills, he can't afford one. Sad story. The insurance
companies say we can fix things using the same system that's
always been there. That's what they told Teddy Roosevelt when
he proposed a national plan almost 100 years ago. Yes,
they're still working on it. Oh, hey, by the way, if you see
Harry, tell him to hang in there. The President's plan is
just around the corner.
So this goes on, there's more and more you want to see want to
hear one more? Yeah, these are good. So these are a couple guys
playing basketball. He shoots he scores.
I was just telling me his state has community rating. Everyone
pays the same rate, no matter their age, even if they smoke or
whatever. Doesn't work.
My health insurance went from 1200 to $3,200. A year with a
double Yeah, 1000s dropped their insurance. I mean, we actually
have fewer covers now
than before. Congress can do better than that. If we send
them that message to send Congress a message on flat rate.
So again, they set it up with the Health Insurance Association
from America and then they come in with their own message call
today. He said universal
health care was too complicated. Louise
said you'd never so now they've
got like a spin off of of these to embed and they're in
traction, they've got bandages all over their head and they
messed up
your job. So we'd always be covered.
What do we do when the government runs out of money?
runs out of money now here are a better way
the guy rolls out of there is a better way to tell Congress what
they already have the security of affordable universal health
care. And I gotta tell you that the President has been the chair
of the Democratic National, the oh gosh, this chair of the
Democratic National Committee What a douche. Anyway, the
President has been sending messages almost non stop. I know
of course. I'm on his list. Yeah, I'm
not on his list. Well, I
got another email from him yet another dear friend. Why can't I
be a citizen? I don't I'm not his friend. Okay. I'm not your
friend. I'm just not you know, I am your boss. You never met the
guy. Why does he just say Dear Boss, I would feel a lot better.
Am I not his boss? Technically one of his many bosses? Yeah.
Yeah, sure. Dear friend. If you're like most Americans,
there's nothing more important to you about healthcare than
peace of mind. by Stuart Smalley. Given the status quo
That's understandable. The current system often denies
insurance due to pre existing conditions charges steep out of
pocket fees and sometimes it isn't there at all if you become
seriously ill. And then he goes into this whole thing. Okay,
time to fix our unsustainable insurance system create a new
foundation for health care security. Wow, it sounds like
Homeland Security. This means guaranteeing your health land
security not going up your health care security. This is
interesting. It's a twist on words, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah,
that doesn't sound good. It's time to fix our unsustainable do
what we say open your mouth it's time to fix our unsustainable
insurance system create a new foundation for health care
security. This means guaranteeing your healthcare
security and stability with eight basic consumer protection
protections. So here they come no discrimination for pre
existing conditions no exorbitant out of pocket
expenses deductible or co pays no cost sharing for preventive
care no dropping of coverage if you become seriously ill no
gender discrimination, no annual or lifetime caps on coverage,
extended coverage for young adults and guaranteed insurance
renewal as so long as premiums are paid. And I just found it
interesting that these messages keep on coming from my friend in
the White House.
Well, bite law just sent me a little note that's kind of
interesting, huh? He says the Democratic National Committee
group is significantly expanding a health care add by I guess
they're the ones paying for all this crap that Senate Majority
Leader Harry Reid, Democrat from Nevada last week called a waste
of money. And what's weird about that they think it's a waste of
money when in fact, this is exactly the way you want to go
about this. What do you mean is you want to promote the heck out
of it to the jet to the public, so you don't have people out
there grousing? And then, of course, the Republicans were so
surprised to me that Reid would do that. But the Republicans
have jumped all over, you know, they're starting to dissect the
the House bill, and the one they've come up with. That's the
most interesting. We have a couple of clips here. There are
the one where apparently there's some provision for putting in
for some government agents to come around and ask you how you
want to die.
Oh, yeah, this is the Living Will thing, right. Yeah. You
want to play the clip that has?
Yeah, I just didn't post love here. He was talking about the
health care plan after being asked a question by a wearing
caller at an ARB meeting today
in their Medicare age will be visited and told to decide how
they wish to die. This bothers me greatly. And I'd like to
promise me that this is not you know, the
promise that it's not in the bill because it is it is in the
bill. We read it ourselves. It's kind of listen to Obama not
answered the question. Okay. I guarantee it. First of all, we
just don't have enough government workers
to send to talk to everybody. Now that's what acorn is for, to
find out how they want to die. I think that the only thing that
may have been proposed in some of the bills, and I actually
think this is a good thing is that it makes it easier for
people to fill out a living will. So no, no, we won't come
around will force you to tell us you like to send it in. We'll
have a website for it I'm sure
to living living. Now the Republicans are having a good
time with this. You have to listen to this next clip with
his which is the debt the Republican from North Carolina
congressman, who was fairly long in age named Virginia Fox play
this clip.
Republicans have a better solution that won't put the
government in charge of people's health care that will make sure
we bring down the cost of health care for all Americans, and that
ensures affordable access for all Americans, and is pro life
because it will not put seniors in a position of being put to
death by their government.
Awesome. Dad. Well, I do have to say though, you know, there is
some merit to and this and I've been a part of socialised
medicine in the United Kingdom, socialised medicine in the
Netherlands, at a certain point, how long it is socialised
medicine. And this is real. This is the pro and The con of it,
right? Sure. Everyone deserves to have health care. This sounds
so much like Atlas Shrugged. It's amazing. Please go. No, no,
no, no. I'm sorry. It really does. He was at a certain at a
certain point. You know, where do you say okay, we're going to
focus the money towards keeping this person alive on life
support and you know, hung in strung into machines versus, you
know, someone who has their entire life before them and need
maybe a kidney transplant. I'm just trying to balance it out.
And in the socialised medicine systems, they do have a cut off
point, it's just
like, yeah, no, I know, in England, they've supposedly just
want people to drop dead. Well,
it's not quite that bad. I mean, they they want everyone to drop
dead. Because there you have it. If you need an emergency
procedure, it's like two month waiting lists. I mean, it's
completely messed up their entire healthcare system, but
in England can't you've you can hire a doctor to do it, you can
do
it privately. You can, you know, there's nothing wrong with
hiring privately. It's just the national health care system, the
NHS or NHS? You know, they do have certain I don't know what
they are, but they do have certain certain cutoff points it
just like, I'm sorry, you know, we've no life for you, and no
service for you. And then it's just over. So you have to accept
that if you're going to accept a national health care plan, you
have to accept that that's a part of it. That makes total
sense to me. And I don't think anyone can really argue the
fairness of it. No, we all have to die at a certain point.
Well, you know, if Obama doesn't do anything else, he's actually
going to get this one. He's gonna get some health care
system and no matter how much they fight it, I think it's
over. I think the Republicans are on the wrong side of the
debate. And it's just over because it is ridiculous even
though they had one of the guys came up I had the clip, but it
was it was actually turned out to be kind of boring and
specious. But One of the congressmen came out, you know,
in Congress on the house, they have these one minute like to
speak the one minute period where they make an announcement.
We'll now listen to one minute speeches. And so they one guy
after another comes up with some what can you do in one minute?
Well, apparently quite a bit, you can do a whole ad. Okay, do
you have one of those one minute ads?
No, I'm just saying, I mean, most of the ads are on the TV or
one minute, they're pretty tight. And these guys run it
again, a few minutes, you know, a few seconds one way there, but
this basically a quick little, they want to make a comment. And
then this guy shows that that Ford 44 million uninsured is a
bogus figure, but you know, some of the way he presented it was a
little dubious, right? Because
it's 20 20 million are illegal aliens, and, you know, of
course.
So the point is, is though, is that, you know, some system has
to be because these guys are getting free health care anyway.
You know, and the fact that prisoners are getting you know,
there's somebody sent me an interesting thing that was in
California, this is a good number. Okay, and I don't have a
clip for it. It's just a good number in California, we spent
$800 million for health care for inmates for ex cons ex cons for
ex cons.
Wow. That gives Cobra a whole new meaning.
So I mean, it just says, I mean, why they're spending 100
million, you do it, because they don't want to actually, I don't
know what the thinking is. But we spent almost a billion in
health care for ex cons in the state of California. So that
mean, it is ridiculous. Everybody gets out to care about
people who like are normal working people. Yeah. You know,
people, the guys in the office, they have to, you know, do what
unless their company has it. And but then if they get laid off in
a situation like we have today, where, you know, there's 15%
unemployment in California, at least, and you have, you know,
what do they do then if they, you know, catch something, and
they have to go in for a procedure? I mean, it's just
ridiculous.
Well, so basically, what you're saying is you believe that some
form of health care bill will pass.
Yeah, absolutely. That's because they're really putting it
putting this putting the pedal to the metal on this thing. And
that's what makes me wonder what what Harry Reid's up to because
that's first thing if I was Obama's boys, I get that guy
out. Yeah, he shouldn't
be questioned, Hey, man, you're not on the programme. We need to
break your pinky like the rest of him. So you can be a part of
our show.
You know, he's got it. He's not playing along.
I did find it interesting. I think it was the same bite law.
You get information from from time to time, he sent an email
to the President about unrelated about second amendment rights.
And he received an actual personalised email. He got a
dear John Stack. Yeah. And it's a whole different reply to
address it's no reply dash Wh pc@whitehouse.gov that the White
House presidential correspondence, so there is a
way to get
no reply, of course, entered into a bucket. Yeah, of course.
But still, you know, to get a personalised email back that's
there is a way apparently to get a little bit deeper into the
system.
And maybe if you're a lawyer,
that's right. vite law. Lawyers. Yeah, that does kind of make
sense, doesn't it? Okay, you want to do some more of these
clips because I got plenty of other stuff to talk about.
Well, what else is on the list? They're well,
on the on the clip list, or I have something that clip list.
Okay, on the clip list, by the way, just a quick one on the
little little ditty on the health care reform according to
the United Kingdom to the Daily Mail of the United Kingdom, I'm
sorry. A Botox tax could be introduced for the United
Healthcare reforms demanded by President Barack Obama patients
seeking Cosmetic Surgery, including breast implants,
liposuction and nose jobs could be forced to pay an extra 10% on
their bill.
Well, I think the the liposuction nose jobs and breast
implants they should get a tax credit.
I think you should get a bonus. Less ugly people caught looking
chicks. Exactly. A tax
credit gets a good for the National Digital Division
National rings brings them back. Yes,
exactly. All right. I've got
what we might want to play Chris Matthews rants about the about
that crazy provision? I'd never saw him go off on something like
this.
Well, that's how hot it's getting lowest semana Jonathan
Martin Lewis, your thoughts about this debate? It's about
the living world provision. Right. Yeah. provision in the
energy bill Energy and Commerce version of the health care bill
in the Energy and Commerce Committee.
When I met with the energy portion of the health care bill,
what am I
the problem? Yeah, you know, these bills, they go to
committee and then they get passed by committee, but some of
them have so many different kinds of provisos that they have
to go to another committee. Like if, for example, they're asking
for a lot of money, it's gotta go to the Finance Committee, or
if they're asking for some Why don't know why the Energy
Committee is involved at some for some reason the bill had to
go through there and then when they get a hold of it, they
start adding more crap to it.
Energy stuff. We should have our own committee John, we should be
a committee in government we could add all kinds of cool
stuff like the Botox credit, that would be a really good one
for us to add,
he was put in this provision by URL blauen, blood blown our from
Oregon blue and our blue and our it's, it's there it stands, it's
blowing our blue in the blue without your
revision, which allows you to get counselling every five years
or so. I wonder what the hell this provision is doing it a
bill that's aimed at people who are younger, it's not about
Medicare recipients, people over 65 why we'd want to be visited
every five years by somebody to talk about how you want to die.
I think it's crazy. This is in there, but your thoughts, but
it's not in there. I mean, basically, it isn't.
It isn't there. But it's personal all Chris, Chris, first
of all, who is that? Who is that talking to? Oh,
she's a Washington Post reporter and she's saying it's not in the
bill that she read it. That's what she said. She says down the
bill. And then she kind of backed off and says, Well, it's
kind of in the bill. And then she said, just to summarise it.
Then she said, Well, it's already in the Medicaid and
Medicare bills are there in that law, and he's just got nothing
to do with it. And he goes off on her. He was like really irked
about this. Okay, okay, so what's on the clip list? I've
got Paulson one and two who I've gotten a thing I read it it was
in Huffington Post saying that they got you know, Paulson got
called up because of some email or some crazy things that were
you know, they they were going through the email and they found
some this and that and the other thing, and then I heard this
Paulson one. Paulson to the B clip, which I was just actually
very flabbergasted by play this this is Jackie Speier, and in a
in a in a hearing where they're ripping Paulson a new one,
do you use email? Do I Use Email? No.
Do you use Hotmail? Do you use Gmail?
Use it personally. You don't use it personally or professionally.
I just don't so I've never used it for any business
communications just never use it. So while you were Treasury
Secretary of the Treasury you never use Gmail? No. How did you
communicate with people? Telephone?
I don't use email. Okay, that hey, that's your government or
work for him don't use email. Oh, he should
check the calendar Paulson.
He's just Yeah, really? Hello. 2009 calling. It's just so he
can say that whatever emails they find he didn't ride him
right. That's why he's saying that's what I'm buying sack of
shit.
So he's been playing other Paulson clip play the first one
where they there's another one which I'll play maybe on Sunday
or the next week, which is just actually really funny. But, but
this one here is not bad. There's also one a
Paulson who was a thief a scoundrel stealing our money for
his buddies if the
people of America didn't create the problem, who created the
problem? If the people of America didn't create the
problem, he said the people of America didn't create the
problem. So tell us who created well,
just so people know who are living in foreign countries if
you didn't understand this is our former finance minister,
essentially secretary of the treasury of the United States ex
Goldman Sachs CEO. My pink is getting even more crooked
banks involved. Well, I would say this this was this problem.
There's so much blame to go around you it's hardly what give
us a few
give us a few give me a try. It's like he's at the
principal's office, isn't it? It's like give me give me a try.
Okay, when you're looking at excesses had been building up
for a very long time, and I just want you to give me some names.
I have a limited amount of time when we include the bank
concluded it will be include anyone you could say financial
institutions and regulators investors. So there was plenty
of mistakes by fast more multitude EV interested in
knowing that in a Financial Services Committee yesterday,
all the banks were represented and they almost to the person
indicated that they weren't responsible for this, but
that's the punch line.
It doesn't really matter. It's all after the fact. I love it.
Man. They've already stolen or stolen all our money and
the money is already stolen. This is like what happened in
Russia when the fall of a calf to the fall of communism all the
gold resource. They all disappeared. The gold
Yeah, really? Well. I've got some of it.
Yeah, you have a piece I got.
I got I got a little piece. I want to talk about the earth for
a second.
The Earth Yeah, the earth. is about that like the planet. The
planet. You
know the thing that we walk around on? Okay. Weather
experts. This is coming to us from What's this fine
publication? Find out for a second Weather experts are
contemplating a new mystery of the deep blue sea. Why it's been
deeper than usual at high tide all along the east coast for the
past several weeks. Since June, tides have been running six
inches to two feet above what would normally be expected, even
considering seasonal and lunar fluctuations. Mike Zubaydah, US
director of an o a tide and current progress tide and
current programme and Silver Spring, Maryland says, right now
we're trying to get a better understanding of what's the
cause. But he says global warming is not to blame. This is
something else and they do not know what it is. Six inches to
two feet higher than normal, John.
Well, maybe something's lifting up in the ocean floor.
I mean, it's clear, we know that something is changing. We know
that the pole, the pole, magnetic poles are reversing.
There's all kinds of magnetic stuff taking place in the
southern hemisphere, probably partially responsible for some
of these aircraft systems frying out. There's a lot of stuff
going on. But it amazes me that this is not like massive news.
What's even more amazing to me, is that
it would have been massive news if he would have said global
warming. Well,
that's the point. Why aren't the global warming jabroni is
jumping on it. This is perfect. You know this the perfect thing
all the polar ice caps are melting, the tide is rising. Why
aren't they doing that seems like a perfect one to jump on.
Well, because apparently somebody came up with some proof
that it's got nothing to do with anything.
Well, actually just as scientists I love that
recording. Scientists we can do nowadays scientists say as the
rise was too sudden for it to be global warming. But at that, so
it's something that sudden it's something that just popped up
really quickly. Six feet, six inches to two feet. That seems
like quite a bit. So you're underwhelmed? Give me an Impala,
Tonto because this?
Oh, yeah, I will say this. I'm thinking that here's the here's
the punchline given? Is this, actually Nepal? Itano. Or is
this Tim Riley?
Who's Tim Riley?
He's the publisher of all these computer books. America. You
mean Tim
O'Reilly? No, no,
it's Tim. Right. There's no O'Reilly know that you're
thinking of the O'Reilly report.
I'm thinking of O'Reilly's bar. I think
American hotels were the target of bombings in Jakarta that
killed eight people and injured six Americans. Six Americans
were among the 164 people killed in the attacks in Mumbai. In
November of 2008. Three Americans were among the 54
killed in the attack on the Marriott Hotel and Islamic BOD
in September of 2008. So if 911 happened in a web 1.0 World
terrorists are certainly in a web 2.0 world now. And many of
the technological tools that expedite communication today,
were in their infancy, or didn't even exist in 2001. Oh, really?
What? The G's web 1.0, terrorism, web 2.0.
Reading BitTorrent, BitTorrent didn't exist in 2001. That's
what they're using. This woman is unbelievable. I mean, really,
really unbelievable. The AFP reports a couple of quotes from
her our Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security,
you just got to love this woman. She's urging a much broader
society response in which the public helps curb a growing
phenomenon of so called homegrown terrorism.
This is part of that plan of Obama to create a militia. Yeah,
and let me tell you about the militia. That here's a quote,
there's actually an important role we can play in educating
even our very young about watching for and knowing what to
do. Oh, brother, yeah, kids, if you're in an airport, you see a
package left with no one around. However, she's not advocating a
culture of spying on one another, oh, no, we have to be
careful, we need to strike a balance. As an example, we have
to
balance between spying,
we have to be respectful of mosques and other Islamic
institutions by on them we have to be very careful about
profiling a religious institution justice, we have to
be careful about profiling individuals we have to be very
very careful about interfering with the free exercise of
religion. But you know, to tell to tell people that we have to
educate are very young to be aware. I mean, what happened to
Innocence man, what happened to just riding around your bike as
a kid and just goofing off? Now we got to like, do goofy
kids, you know, goofing off back to work. Hey, you should report
that paper shack that sitting over there put somebody's lunch
in it.
It's horrible. It's really, really hard. It's you just
justifying the entire means for the existence of her department
or what is this? What is this about? This woman stupefies me?
Well, the whole department should be disbanded.
Unfortunately, it's too late. This is typical government, by
the way, you set something up, or it's only going to be here
when we need it. And that's it. It just takes over it does
everything it can to grow and grow and grow and get bigger and
bigger bear because the bigger it gets, the higher the pay for
the guy at the top. Or the or the or the gal by rate. Of
course,
the the national level exercise 09 is in in full force this
week, which we talked about on Sunday. And there's been
actually some stuff I want to talk about at the end of the
show, because what's going on in New Jersey and is completely
underreported is pretty amazing. I'm really just going to keep
that until the end. Did you really okay. Okay, I'm gonna
keep that to the end. But I want to say this clip, John, this is
a YouTube clip. And this kind of this is the scariest thing I
have seen. Hold on. Let me see if I can get you the link is the
scariest thing I've seen in years. Although it it did happen
on a US carrier, and you go flight 857 from San Francisco to
Shanghai. So the aircraft arrives at Pudong airport pulls
into the gate passengers are requested to remain seated. And
then these five or six guys in complete control, white
containment suits walk onto the plane, so they're completely
covered in white. They've got the goggles on and they have
these radar thermometer guns and they point them at each person's
forehead and read their temperature to see if they have
swine flu. But look at the video man. It will freak you out.
You guys sent me a link.
I just I just gave you the link take a look at it. I want you to
see I want to hear your reaction because you look at you like oh
my god it's a fucking science fiction movies.
Sounds like those guys in the Star Wars.
It looks it looks just like what do you call those guys the
centuries or whatever? I
can't remember their names. Somebody in the chat room knows
you know the guys in the white Yeah. Are you looking at the
clip? Yeah, it looks like the somebody did this. This is
bullshit.
No, that's not bullshit. That's real. Look at the clip. Really?
Look at it. It's not bullshit. That's a full aircraft.
I think there's somebody who's punked No, no, no, no, no. Why
this isn't like I've ever seen it looks like they gotta shoot
everybody you know, let's do this with these phoney guns at
first and then we'll come in with real guns and wipe these
people out. That's what it looks like. It's a practice
I think first of all, I don't think it's you can't punk stuff
like that on an aeroplane you just can't do that stuff. It
just doesn't work that way not while you're at the gate you
don't have five guys in white suits come in with radar manage
and I don't think so.
You have some fake some fake credentials you get a couple of
people with cameras it's just too well shot no it's
not it's just on a regular camcorder people get good video
all the time.
And then these guys come in they shoot the gun at a few people
and then they leave and next thing you know it's all over the
place is ridiculous.
All right, you can find it in the show notes that no
agenda.media.com Of course on our
blog at two you can get it on divorce that org slash blog I
have the video up
and no agenda show.com is also working now that results to our
squares Squarespace site. And as we were talking last week about
s dot 666 and the bioterrorism bill and all of this money that
was appropriated years ago I ran across yet another fine Oh,
John, did I just lose? Yeah, how did that happen? She wouldn't
call him back oh oops that doesn't sound too good
let's pull the plug on these two assholes.
You could just see the guys at the AT and T headquarters saying
exactly that. A fog of let's get them now do so I was about to
talk about, you know, the bioterrorism funding that was
set up a couple of years ago. We talked about this on Sunday. And
who was it was it it was Joe Lieberman who sponsored the that
original bill and you know so they got all this money and I
bumped across a John we are so in the wrong business dude.
Because I was looking at you know, dude, I was looking at
what kind of money was being appropriated towards vaccine
companies. For the of course for the swine flu. This is a site
that is just unbelievable the DI T R A, have you ever heard of
this organisation? No. Okay, d t r a dot mil is the defence
Threat Reduction Agency, the Combat Support Agency of the US
Department of Defence assigned with a mission of safeguarding
the United States and its allies from weapons of mass
destruction. And of course, it defines WMD as chemical,
biological, radiological, nuclear, nuclear, and high yield
explosive weapons by providing
a pile of bomb now qualifies. Yeah.
And you see the amount of money being handed out to this, this
one outfit, Avi. Forget the name of it. Shoot,
well, this is like the $18 million website that you know
that a simple website 80 million is do these companies are it is
a business, but the company's expertise is not in actually
doing anything any better than anybody else can do. But it's in
getting the contracts. I mean, it's it's a it's an art to be
able to get these contracts and they're huge contracts and you
just essentially built the government it's
billions of dollars. And you're right, it is you know, they
explain exactly how you get one how you get in on the programme.
I get one of these, one of these contracts and that just
outrageous and just used the amount of money being spent,
particularly on the h one n one virus, which is coming from this
organisation is just astounding.
Yeah, absolutely. Despite what we should be doing.
Here's the So this relates directly and actually the name
of Avi biopharma. Yeah, Avi biopharma. That's the you find
the page, no byte loss and it to me, okay, because here's
something I haven't been able to source this properly. So take it
for what it's worth. But this is how President Obama ties into a
lot of what's happening with swine flu on the back end. So
I'm just going to read some of this verbatim to you. So George
W. Bush announced the international partnership on
Avian and Pandemic Influenza, at the UN General Assembly on
September 14 2005. So that's when affect the United States
under United Nations law and the world horse, world horseshit,
World Health Organisation, proportion
organisation, that's the new name.
Wait, don't say that, man. I don't want to get disconnected
again. So, you know, we are under W. H. O law in the event
of a pandemic emergency, which in effect is now in place,
according to the constitution of the World Health Organisation,
whenever they say everyone must be vaccinated, we apparently
have to do it. And of course, we're at threat level six. So
we're there Now, earlier that year in April 2005. And this is
the part that I have not sourced and as a couple more things. So
I'm not saying it's true, but it's interesting. Barack Obama
then as a senator introduced the first comprehensive bill to deal
with the bird flu threat. That was the avian act. According to
reports, Obama made significant investments in biotech companies
involved in the development of bird and swine flu. Less than
two months after sending to the United States Senate, Barack
Obama bought more than $50,000 worth of stock in two
speculative companies whose major investors included some of
his political donors. One of the companies was his Avi biopharma.
And that started to develop a drug to treat the avian flu. In
March 2005, two weeks after buying about 5000 of its shares,
Obama took the lead in a legislative push for more
federal spending spending to battle the disease. He put 50 to
$100,000 into into an account at UBS, which his aides say was
recommended to him by his friend friend George W. Haywood, who
was a major investor in Skyterra. And Avi biopharma.
Within two weeks of his purchase of the biotech stock February
22, Obama initiated what he's called, quote, one of my top
priorities since arriving in the Senate, and that was a push to
increase federal financing to fight avian flu. I mean, this
just goes on and on and on and on. And
well, that's such a conflict of interest that I can't imagine
somebody's not looking into it.
Well, again, since you know, it really hasn't been been sourced
very well, but I can give you just a here's a quick overview,
which I like April 28 2005, Obama introduces the avian act s
969. Senator Obama introduced the first comprehensive bill to
address the threat of an avian influenza influenza pandemic.
Then he warns of a flu pandemic in 2005. On June 6, released by
Barack Obama and Richard Lugar, do you know who he is?
Yeah. Richard lugarde. Dick Lugar, he's one of the senators.
Okay.
It is essential for the international community led by
the United States to take decisive action to prevent a
pandemic. What should we do? Recently the World Health
Organisation called for more money and attention to devote it
to be devoted to effective preventative action appealing
for $100 million accelerating research into avian flu vaccines
and antiviral drugs is what we need to do so and then you look
at the money that came from the spacing on it for a second is
one of these like non urban Urban Health Initiatives
something else that he sponsored that money went directly to avi
biopharma so we need
to do all of this all of this swine flu thing is all about the
money it's not about killing anybody. Oh, it's about the
money and testing adjuvants simple. And then they obviously
they give a lot of money to the to the W H. O. And then that
stupid woman that runs it who by the way, if you get to ever see
her speak, she seems like out and out idiot here channels and
then her name. Yeah. And she. I mean, if you ever watched the
old math TV show, and you ever saw Miss Swann, this is this
woman. So anyway, she they give him a lot of money. And they say
that, you know, it'd be back channels that look, you know, if
you crank up the you know, let's, we got a bunch of people
making this stuff, we got to give him some reward. So can you
make it a level six threat? You know, what
is her background? Where's this? Margaret Chan from general
Russian
was in either China. I think she's she's from China, and she
was behind she was one of the investigators or what were the
head of Hong Kong's Health Department. She's got the
background of doing stuff in the health industry as a bureaucrat.
So executives from Baxter Of course, that's the company that
tried to slip in the virus into a regular flu shot. Novartis,
GlaxoSmithKline, and Sanofi Pasteur all have seats on the
advisory group that recommended on July 13, mandatory h one n
one vaccination of everyone in all 194 countries that belong to
the World Health Organisation.
I wonder why they do that.
And this is this is report just released. And Dr. Margaret Chan
did not give the press briefing herself in Geneva, it was Dr.
Marie Paul Climie, who stepped in to announce that, quote,
vaccines will be needed in all countries.
So yeah, that's just a money grab. Now, that's the thing my
wife pointed out to me was the fact that the WGA, we've made
some sort of an agreement, the country has made an agreement
with the W H O. And if they declare some sort of an
epidemic, which they pretty much have and say that we have to
have a shot. And we buy because of the treaty, we require,
despite the fact that it's unconstitutional to require a
vaccination in the United States of America. But because of the
treaty, there's some way they're going to try to try
to force us to take a shot. Right. That's what I just said,
everyone who joins with the with Yeah,
so what you just said, I'm just saying, once again,
just give your white credit for what I just said, is that what
you're saying? Yeah,
so but let's be let's, here's what's going to happen,
somebody's going to have to challenge this immediately and
get it into the court system as fast as they cancelled, it goes
into the it gets up to the Supreme Court. So they can say
this is unconstitutional, you can't do this. I don't care what
agreement you made. You can't have, you know, this is like,
this has always bothered me, by the way, that non disclosures
have always irked me because they're against the First
Amendment rights. I mean, if
you're talking about now,
this is like in a in a in any corporation or if you're working
for somebody, you'd get these agreements, these nondisclosure
you, you'd say that you will never say anything about this.
There's a contract. But when does a contract? What can I when
can a contract violate the basic constitution? It's an illegal
contract. There's no way that I can sign my rights to say
something away. In the United States of America, it's bull
Well,
aren't you allowed to enter into private contracts is not part of
the Constitution.
But I can do anything. I can say, I'm going to do this and
that and the other thing, but there's no way they're going to
be able to sue me. I can't have Okay, if that's true, then why
don't I enter in a private contract for slaves? That's a
private contract that brought these guys over from Africa.
They signed here. And they said they'd be slaves. No problem.
What do you think all those people let me do our dude,
what's up to do squat? Now?
I'm just telling you that would what's the difference? What's
the difference between a nondisclosure and an agreement
to be a slave? How is it constitutional? So how's it
constitutional? We are forced to take vaccines.
Well, we've discussed this on the show John and you've learned
gadget
all the time, I just get more asked about every time it comes
up.
So who is going to challenge this? This is a very good
question who is going to stand up and challenge it considering
that every just about every single politician in the system,
one way or another is tied into Big Pharma? So I know by your
argument, that this is all about money, and I think most of the
middle layer Maybe even on the edges of the middle layer of
what's going on here. It is all about greed and money, but at
the same time, it is kind of dangerous.
You know, you want to mess it up as a guinea pig, that's for
sure.
Well, the public is but it's gotten so bad the public is
willingly giving themselves up as guinea pigs do, you
know? Let him do it. But I mean, the point is, is that what the
forced ones are the ones that are somewhat irksome. If you
play the clay, here's a clip for you. And that clipless there's
one look for one that says, blue coming back. Yeah, I play that.
They should stay home from school for seven days, at least
if it looks like they have swine flu. And people who are sick
should actually wear masks at home. Also wash your imagine
honey, you can't kiss me I'm wearing my mask wearing
masks. This ad is on the CBS local news telling us about
swine flu and
tell me there's more. There's more.
sneeze and cough into your sleeve,
sneezing cloth, cough into your wife's mouth. That's much fun,
not your
hand. Vaccines are also going to be available but you must get
one for the seasonal flu and a separate one for the swine flu
which is two shots
to the head.
We'll be gearing up for onsite vaccination programmes in
probably about 40 schools and Contra Costa will be doing drive
thru vaccine,
dry flu vaccine. Dry drive through and through my arm out
the window. Here we go. Thank you can I have another
programmes for the public in shopping centres beginning in
November.
In the meantime, the health departments are working with
each other and the school districts to track absences
if another kid gets it, and we'll just bring him home and
he'll be calling him will kill him at home.
I think I think a lot of media why this guy is the public and
listen to what he says
back Friday. The media around it has been around the fear web
might be as opposed to what the flu turned out to be.
It turns out the swine flu isn't more dangerous than the seasonal
flu, but it's also here to stay won't be going away.
We expect it's we coming back in the fall with larger numbers.
What we hope is that it doesn't come back with more severity.
Please
go away. Why is this we're not going away.
It's like bad Mexican food. It comes back it doesn't go away.
It
won't be going away. It's coming back. It's never gonna go away.
So here's where you got to be careful of you know, the most
recent vaccination that they tried to roll and John, I am
really buying into your money argument. Of course, I was
hammering time and time again about this Gardasil, this HPV
vaccine, which apparently would prevent your daughter's from
getting cervical cancer which of course has been proven that it
is not 100% effective. It didn't go through all the clinical
trials. It was rushed through it was rolled out in almost exactly
the same fashion with a fear based campaign, getting mothers
and fathers to take their young daughters to get this frickin
shot. And now a federal report. Oh gee whiz, has concluded that
the HPV vaccine Gardasil has a 400% higher rate of adverse
effects than any other comparable vaccine. Yeah, da
because they probably have adjuvants in it. We haven't
looked into it but I'm sure it was a beta test. And they just
wrote and even when boys to take this test this this vaccine for
cervical cancer hilarious Are you nuts? Well, maybe
you can grow a cervix when you get older you never know.
But listen, researchers considered Gardasil and menactra
equivalent for the purposes of comparison because I'm an actor
is a anti meningitis shot. So they compare the two because
they've given a similar age groups at similar frequencies.
The study concluded Gardasil was associated with twice as many
emergency room visits four times as many deaths, and four times
as many heart attacks, seven times as many disabled reports
and 15 times as many strokes, reported cases of blood clots,
heart attacks, all associated with Gardasil, and that none of
that happened or almost none of it happened with any other drugs
you know, and and people just take their kids take them, take
them to the doctor, let that needle slip right in.
It's nuts. Nobody pays attention anymore. No, the news
is not reporting on it because the complacent they're a part of
it. They're part of the system
because the drug companies are the one of the biggest
advertisers in the world right now. Thank
you. Exactly. How can welcome media doesn't have any good
pharma advertisers. What the fuck is that? Can we at least
get some of that money
for you, but you don't have anybody that's got them to
write. You know, this all rolodexes, right. He's got to
find some guy with the with the drug company Rolodex he could
probably you know, make the company a billion dollar company
overnight. Hey, if
you know anyone in the pharma industry, we'll be happy to make
a show. Like two to the arm. It's good kids, come on, we can
do the job, we'll do that show. It's good for your kids vote for
jobs. Minute.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
Meanwhile, the US Census Bureau never gets old does not the US
Census Bureau came out with, with what they predict will be
the change in population. So they do a chart from 1950 to
2050. It's a beautiful thing. John, let me just Skype you this
link. You will. This, I love it when when government backs up my
crackpot theories. So starting 2012, there's a significant
decline in world population. It really goes from about 8 billion
to autunno, close to 4 billion. Someone's on the list. What's
that all look at this. Look at this look
at last because you know the Chinese don't have having one
child without having to pay extra taxes. And although the
way Glenn Beck puts it, they grabbed the extra child and
killed him. They take him out. Take him back. By the way, Glenn
Beck has been in the news to an extreme this week, which I want
to discuss for a second after you're done with this little
bit. But the the, you know, there's that thing going around
which we blogged, which is the world population, being able to
fit the whole thing into Texas. And this guy says do the math.
And so I did the math, by the way.
All right. So so we have to put this in the show notes, because
that is it is a very interesting YouTube clip. And so again, the
the premise is the entire world population could have a house
and all fit with their house in the state of Texas. Yeah. Is
this actually true?
Yeah, actually, it's true by about point 1 billion people
and what happens if we if we all flush the toilet at the same
time?
This Texas explode? Yes, Texas is flushed can't live that close
together. There's no that you can't have that there's no
infrastructure, it doesn't actually work unless you're
living in mud hot.
If you melt up No, if you multiply should be townhouses,
if you multiply the number of townhouses per acre, which is
generally considered to be 35 per acre, and you multiply it by
the 170, or plus million acres in Texas, technically, you have
about 6.8 billion people that are possible to be shoved into
Texas. Now, of course, there's no grocery stores or room for
malls or anything else and all that important stuff. Like
basically the people in the middle of this country of the
state, especially when they get warmed up a little bit probably
be dead. But technically, you could jam them all into Texas in
a in a normal sized town house. And you could get the world's
entire the world's population into the state of Texas,
technically,
okay, technically, but there are some calculations, there's a lot
of room for growth, you got to make some, there's some
calculations need to make for infrastructure, you know, like,
grocery stores, yeah, grocery stores, Best Buy RadioShack and
all the stuff that we really need along with I don't know
plumbing,
although now if you think about it. Now think about this. Hell
with a town. This is townhouses, if you did high rises, you could
probably put the infrastructure in there because you'd have
plenty of room instead of 35 houses single family dwellings
per acre, so you could probably shove 1000 people or 2000 people
in an acre.
Okay. And and where do we grow all the food to feed these
people? You could probably
still have one the rest of the country is all agriculture now.
And where do we go on vacation, by the
way, and you run that that that road that goes to Mexico to
catch
up? I'm shipping you to Texas, screw you. You're the first to
start. I'm getting you one of those high rise plastic coffins.
We can stack those on top of each other beautifully in Texas.
Just telling you. A nice note from Gitmo nation, South
southern hemisphere from Simon he translated an official note
from the Secretary of Health in Brazil. Tuesday, July 28,
recommended to the public and private schools to postpone the
return of lessons until the 17th of August. This measure has as
an objective to reduce the transmission of the h1 and one
virus. Oh, yeah. I called Christina yesterday and said
Have they delayed the opening of your school yet? She says Not
yet. But she'll
wait, wait, wait, wait, did kind of the information has to be
reinterpreted at least on this basis. It's the middle of winter
in Brazil. So they may have some logic for doing this. Because
it's the middle of winter and it's the flu season in Brazil.
Good point. It's not the flu season around here. Or England.
Good point. Now I'm done with that. We're still way ahead
another funny swine flu note from maybe it was from
Argentina. Hold on, let me see find it. Damn,
while you do looking for it, let's see what other clips we
got.
You only have one more I think that you haven't played yet.
I'll tell you what we have we have Ennahda climate change
maybe that's India climate change and we have icon
display. That's a real coup since we're talking a little bit
about some of this. But just as a real quick clip this was
taken, there's not much publicity. Everybody knows about
the climate change bill that that's being honest about knows
that if we implement it, we're gonna be the only country in the
world that does and the countries that are the super big
polluters like India and China the rest they say Screw you, we
think this thing is a bunch of bull. And this is what the India
head of India's environmental department, he's the head
Vironment. Does he actually say screw you a bunch of ball,
April, almost
India's position is I'd like to make it clear and categorical.
India's position is that we are simply not in a position to take
on legally binding, emission reductions, reduction
targets. Developing countries like India don't want to be
forced to slow growth in the name of reducing emissions,
which is almost
what a lot of it sounds like like it it really is about
slowing growth of the BRIC, the BRIC nations.
Well, and us
know for us it's just taking more of our money away.
Yeah, we've already slowed growth. What am I thinking? We
got no growth.
We really don't we, what is unemployment up to now? 16% real
unemployment,
real unemployment and unemployment number. That's, I
think it's called David Dix or something like that.
David guar Gallia. Quit says it sends us a quick report from
soon to be Gitmo nation tropical South. Yesterday, I was watching
the new team Brazil, it seems the government agency that has
and again it's winter there that has the rough equivalent of the
FDA has approved a batch of Tamiflu about one year over its
due date to be used in public hospitals. The report said the
maker asked the government to use this batch after it tested
samples for its stability, and concluded that it's still in
good condition. This has actually happened in the States.
I've received a number of reports from a hospital
personnel who say look, we have Tamiflu with a with an
expiration date. And we're being told that it's still okay to use
it. I don't know if that's typical. John, you being a
medical doctor, by former profession.
There's one thing I didn't get to be. But as a chemist, I can
tell you that half these things have the expiration date is
premature.
Luckily, most doctors are asking the patients to ignore the
government and to request pills still inside the validity
period. And then David goes on to say on the other hand, who
cares about that when Taylor Swift is finally here in Brazil
to help us with her wallowing music. And he sent us a nice
picture of the supermarket with some of the tabloids with Taylor
Swift.
For people who haven't heard it,
I don't have that. Well, maybe I could find that somewhere. I
love Wayne Wayne, Wayne Wayne,
Reno. So David, totally. You're a full fledged producer from
from Gitmo nation, tropical South. You totally get it. I
don't have any of the Taylor Swift clips anymore. I don't
think John lately,
you gotta keep a library. at the ready.
Do you want to talk just really briefly about this podcast
patent because everyone who listens to the show is aware of
it. Everyone's talking about it. And I haven't really said
anything about it yet.
Let me brief people. A company called volo media has obtained
from the department of the love of the Homeland Security Patent
Office.
Before and for your security, by the way,
our patent for podcasting and it was given to them I believe in
2003 Despite the fact that most of the internet I mean,
distribution of media on the Internet was in full force in
the late 1990s and by 2001 A couple of guys debatable who's
the primary person who I believe is Adam curry but it but Dave
Winer, because he invented RSS likes to at least throw his name
into that into that mix. So we have Dave Winer and Adam curry
as inventors of the podcasting model, in 2001. After we've seen
maybe two, three, maybe four years of media distribution over
the internet and various formats and methodologies. 2003 rolls
around these guys. These guys unlike the curries, and the
whiners out there who didn't think to put a patent
application in, put one in after the fact when all the stuffs
already been done. So it's just a bogus patent. I'll tell you,
this company Volvo media, which I think was called something
else previously, I know this guy Merck gash the progression of
our Because Ron and I met with him several times in 2005, when
we, before we even started pod show, I believe, at the time, he
had this kind of weird he had, he had put together like a radio
system. And it was, the idea was, you'd have this thing in
your car. And, you know, stuff would be downloaded through 3g,
or whatever we're talking about at the time. And he even said,
oh, you know, we have many, many patents filed and all they had
actually had some radio guy from some local radio station kind of
as his, his guy to help him with the content part. And, you know,
we just we talked a lot and we wouldn't say anything we can do
and like, you know, really like this guy just was no fit for us
at all. But he never he never really showed me even anything
close to what podcasts his
name again.
Mer geschehen. Have are.
Is this any different because there's another Volvo media that
is run by this Jan DeVos. older guy, which may be a different
company. probably think it is actually.
Just maybe this company was actually just I just look at my
Gmail for a second. See if I can find anything from her. Gosh,
that'd be funny, wouldn't it? I could read some of my
correspondence over that. There.
Let me see. I mean, is that actually do we know that's the
name volo media. VO Hello.
Yeah. VO lvo. ello. And let me just see if I have any more
geschehen my email. That will be kind of funny, wouldn't it?
Let's see. From on Gmail, do me justice. But oh, yes. Let's see.
See, I
get a Volvo Mita mot. Oh,
here it was audio. Three different Volvo listen to audio
feast is what the company was called?
Audio feast audio feast.
Remember, we had maj Weinstein and I kept laughing about oh,
let's go look. Let's go talk to more more guests from audio
yeast. Here's some of our correspondents Adam and Ron.
We're working on a one page proposal on how we can work
together. We're excited about the podcasting possibilities and
want to cooperate with your strengths. This is a heads up.
He's already he's already saying he didn't know what podcasting
was at the time.
Oh, that's that's a piece of evidence.
Totally evidence. Let me see what else I got. This is good.
Oh, I should have done this earlier. Yeah. Here Oh, I have a
proposal from him partnership and content possibilities.
You know what, maybe he's out to get you guys.
Maybe. Let me see. What is this? Okay, that's just a foreword is
add this guy to feast cast or podcast set. The guy didn't even
know what podcasting was. We talked to an audio feast. That
was that was his whole brand. That was his whole idea. How are
things going? He writes on June 28 2005. Our 2.0 release is in
beta now delivers all the top radio shows we carry as
podcasts. These shows can be synced to iTunes or Windows
Media Player directly. So what he was doing is he was taking
radio shows from around the country and syncing them
somehow. Given this we have come to a decision we do not want to
be a front facing consumer brand when all of our technology
strengths are in the back end. We have content partnerships and
technology no need to be a consumer facing brand. I'd like
to chat and see if we can help pod show become big really fast.
Open to chat. So I don't think there's I don't think there's
anything else real into this. There's probably some stuff
around here. But Adam Rue gal, I believe now that's what's that.
Anyway, audio feast look into that company that was the
company.
Our lawyer or lawyer tells us that Adam could file a motion
for reexamination with the patent office and try to get it
invalidated. Simple
Pinochet I tell you something, though, I'm so sick and tired of
fighting these fights for everybody
else fight just send a piece of paper and well, first of all,
I'm not going to do that. Because I don't know. Any work I
did and
Bobby do it.
I'm certainly not going to have Bobby do it. Any work that I
did. And day one and I we were experimenting with this very
thing in the public with his software radio user land in
2000 2001. You know, I, I worked with him on coming up with the
idea of the enclosure element and RSS, you know, and after the
fact you know, if this guy was really really smart and were
gash, he would have added his name to the podcasting wiki
page. This is what you're supposed to do. Douchebag This
is the time where we say Oh, Wikipedia shows that it's not
true. And I'm just waiting for all these other people to hop on
board saying they invented pie podcasting, go look at the wiki
page and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Here it is just the one that you keep editing
consistently. As you put this guy in, we're guessing of our
invented podcasting in 2003. Here it is, here's a here's a
potential from New Coke, New Coke guns. What it this is
great. This is funny, John. Oh, my God.
Is this on the Wikipedia page? You're looking at it? No, I'm
looking at the email still. Oh, what was he saying here? The guy
was he was radio stations to some kind of radio thing. And it
was a closed loop system. It had nothing to do with RSS that had
nothing to do with any syndication protocol. It was
taking shows from radio programmes that they were
licencing, which is why he didn't like the main
favours before we beat this to death, we should take a look at
this case patent. If you know we can look at
somebody because I looked at the patent. And you look in the
patent that I find everywhere online does not include a lot of
the stuff that he writes about his patent on his on his patent
page, which so I don't I really don't know, have you ever looked
at the USPTO website. And because I don't know how it
works. There's all these dependencies and all this weird
stuff. And I don't know if those are then included in the patent.
Because the basic patent says nothing because I looked at it,
of course, it says nothing about about downloading. But on his
website here, I'll send you what he says John. Here you go. So
his patent, which is 7568213. The only thing I could find
online about it other than his web page is a method for
providing episodic media the media comprised comprising
providing a user with access to a channel dedicated to episodic
media, or in the episodic media provided over the channel is
predefined into one or more episodes, blah, blah, blah,
blah. But then he goes into all these the method of claim one
further comprising automatically providing the user with an
indication of the availability of updated episodic media, I
can't find that at the USPTO is filing. So did he just add that
in? Or? Or is am I not? Do I not know how to read the Patent
Office website, which is clearly not one of those $90 million
websites.
When I'm looking at the patent, now, what is claimed a method of
providing episodic media, the method comprising you providing
a user with access to a channel dedicated to episodic media,
where in the episodic media
that only got but then it ends at the ability to modify the
channel depth by selecting selected public media con
episodic media content, thereby overriding the previously
configured channel depth, that's all it says. But below that, on
his own page, he's got these nine different methods of claim,
what is the method of claim?
Well, no, no, it's what the set apparently is supposed to be in
the patent.
But I don't see it in the patent. I don't either. So maybe
he's full of horse gooey.
That could be
anyway, I never liked the guy, we couldn't work with him. He
had, he
tried to like him even less now.
I don't care. I really don't care what the only problem is,
is that he's now talking to Apple. And John, you said to me
on the street the other day, as we were street walking,
we do that you said, I said that the first thing that did this, I
used to do a lot of nasty witness work. nasty shit. And
one of the things that you did the lawyers are always telling
you is the classic way that the that you handle a patent that
might be weak. And you want to get a bunch of royalties from
people just, you know, the first thing you got to do is you got
to find a big fish. And you go and you show them this pattern
and you say you want to you're going to have to want to charge
everybody for this patent, but Mr. Big Fish, I'm gonna let you
have the patent for free. Because there's no reason for
you know, you could just because just to get it out of the way,
and there's a million ways of selling this. And so now all of
a sudden, Apple then a press release goes out Apple, you
know, comes to an agreement, which of course means no money,
but doesn't say that comes to an agreement with Volvo media to
use the Volvo media, episodic patent for podcasting. And now
that is used to scare off all the little fish, because now
you're fighting against Volvo media. Do you think Apple is on
their side? Yeah, I mean, it just becomes a fiasco of of
sorts. But that was the first thing I said to you is, like I
just telling you that this is the way it's usually done. Boom,
within 24 hours, a press release comes out saying that he's
talking to Apple. He's not talking to him to get royalties
because Apple's not gonna give him a nickel.
So if you really do give a shit about this, and you think that
there's a problem, then if you're a lawyer, if you know a
lawyer, I'll sign my name under anything you want. And I'm sure
Dave Winer will do the same, but I really feel that there's no
reason for me to be camera. lot and jump on this and go
screaming about it. It's just, it's lame. I think I've got
evidence the guy didn't know what podcasting was he was he
was looking at a completely different system. And if
anything, hey, you know what? I think I have an NDA with that
dude.
Well go dig it up.
And now back to real. Lady magazines are in trouble.
Usually the mags gorge on ads for their September issues often
inches thick. And by far the biggest of the year the fall
issues fat revenues bursting at the seams usually carry them
through the Lean months after Christmas. However, plummeting
ad sales combined with lower circulation rates means quite a
few won't have reserves to make it through hibernation. The
reason is because women according to Liz Jones of The
Daily Mail, women are sick and tired of looking at beautiful
photoshopped Botox chicks. They want it to be real. They find
the magazines patronising fake and pointless
to new generation.
I think they're onto something. I think that now that we
actually know how Photoshop works, that women are saying
screw that shit.
Yeah, actually, Photoshop may have ruined it.
Well, Photoshop created while I get it's an airbrush,
it all stems from I think a lot of it stems from that picture of
Faith Hill that was on the cover, I think Cosmo or one of
these magazines. And then they showed up on the internet with
the before and after. And she was like, Faith hills, who was a
good looking woman was so photoshopped. I mean, she made
it look like she was 17 it was I think it was an eye opener for a
lot of people to do it shouldn't need to do that with every
every single magazine. Certainly the cover every single one is
photoshopped, retouched graded everything and even for
especially for technology, magazines. Everything is
photoshopped. Everything is made to look more beautiful, fake and
is not real. Maybe that's a part of why all this stuff is going
down the drain, John, besides the shoddy reporting,
yeah, everything's fake. I got some news, real news. And now we
get to this huge scandal going on in Australia. That is really
interesting. There's this morning show, to talk radio
show. Good morning, Australia,
to day
to day to day showing. And there's a Kyle and Jackie are
these two hosts in this and they run the show. And so they they
had this idea that was going to be so funny. Let's get a lie
detector and put some teenager on it and then see what we have
our mom griller about stuff. So they found this girl and they
didn't she didn't want to do it. She didn't want to do she didn't
want to do it. They made her do it. They hooked up to a lie
detector test and they started asking a question. Do you ever
have sex every day with a boy? Do you ever kiss? And the girl
says I'm not saying I already talked about this before it
didn't and they start giving her a bad time. And she says okay,
okay, I was raped when I was 12 Jesus Christ of my god, hell has
broken loose and
rightfully so and
getting by whom? I mean, the government's involved they're
wondering why this went without being reported. Why did the mom
what was the point of this lie detector thing? What was the
show's involvement? I mean, everybody's in on this. This is
a huge scandal talking about taking the spotlight away from
you know the Nothing to see here. thing this is just as as
the killer
poor girl, a poor girl. Don't look over here. Nothing to see.
Look at that. That's horrible. You bought me out with that one.
John,
just to let you know Australia. We are listening. Listening to
we do care. Okay. I just wanted to talk briefly about New
Jersey. Of course, there were like 40 lawmakers arrested over
the past few weeks in in New Jersey. You know, it seems like
the mob is involved. It's you know, there's this. There's kind
of, I don't know exactly what these Jewish organisations
represent or which fraction they represent. But there's seems to
be some Israeli ties into this. I made some assertions to that
in one of our previous shows. Did you know that 11 letters
containing suspicious white powder have been sent to
government and private offices in northern New Jersey in the
past 10 days, John? Nope. So of course, how
would I know that?
G figure why would it be reported I have to say the star
ledger did report on this not the the biggest national
newspaper in the world. And as
which is right across the river? Yeah. And as
Yes, it is. So I'll just read you some of the report. This is
now the FBI is copping to this. Now. Remember, this is anthrax
letters. Essentially, no one has been injured initial test showed
the powder did not appear to be dangerous authority said what
was it Then could you please tell me what was it? Was it
anthrax? Was it non lethal anthrax? Was it powdered sugar?
Was it heroin? What the hell was it? However, of course the
mailings prompt the temporary shutdown throughout Bergen and
Passaic counties, while hazmat units investigated, hazmat, that
sounds Jewish just by itself. What is the hazmat unit?
Hazardous Materials are just materials. Those are getting
those white suits. There you go with the with the thermometer
gun,
and the FBI. The lead agency in the investigation released few
details of course, in each case, the powder was in an envelope
that was inside another envelope since July 17. The agency said
letters were sent to locations in Tortola Clifton, that's where
I used to live. Wayne Ringwood, which I think will be Ridgewood,
but Ringwood, Woodland Park and Fairlawn, all in New Jersey.
final testing on the three letters concluded there was no
evidence of biological agents. The agency would not say where
the letters were sent but the Fairlawn Police Department
confirmed one was received by police chief Eric rose on Friday
morning. The same morning another letter was delivered to
the Law Offices of of Vivino and Vivino. In Wayne, vino of a vino
healthcare immediate immediately. The office was
evacuated for about two hours emergency crews came in FBI is
working with the US Postal Inspection Service and local and
county investigators on the case. Letters containing
suspicious white powder have been common since 2001. Common
common What do you mean common? Where am I heard about this
since 2001. Letters containing suspicious white powder have
become common since 2001.
In Jersey maybe
when letters laced with anthrax powder, one of which was
processed at the post office in Hamilton Mercer County killed
five people. In the past eight months alone white powder
letters forced workplace evacuations at a pharmaceutical
company in Montvale, a securities firm in Woodbridge
and offices of Senate President Richard Cody. Governor John
cozine, was also among 30 governors to receive white
powder letters left late last year.
They're suppressing this they're completely suppressing them.
Well, they're doing it for a good reason. Because the
boneheads in this country and all I did is a great idea.
So of course, they say nothing happened. However, one of the 44
people arrested last week. This is according to Reuters. In a
sweeping federal probe of political corruption and money
laundering in New Jersey, one of the people has been found dead
in suspicious circumstances. Jack Shaw, you've heard of him,
John. I have I think you have longtime democratic political
consultant was discovered dead at his Jersey City home on
Tuesday afternoon in circumstances Hudson County
prosecutor Edward De Fazio called suspicious however, the
prosecutor told The New York Times the death did not appear
to be murder. There's they're still working, still working on
Michael Jackson for like for like six weeks now. And within
three days, oh, this is not murder on us. There's nothing
when I gotta get my jingle. I'm slower. Nothing to see here.
Slow on the draw here. Exactly. So this, this whole corruption
thing is really, really underreported. And so this sharp
guy was basically he was wearing a wire he was the informant he
was he was talking to all of these time,
coincidentally wound up dead and it was a murder but it
gets better. He had been working for developers in northern New
Jersey. Previously, he worked for Chicago Mayor Richard Daley,
and former New Jersey Governor Jim Florio and helped with New
Jersey governor's John Cortines race for the Senate. I mean,
there is a lot of shit going on. So he introduced the informant
to other officials who were charged in the massive
investigation of corruption, human organ sales and money
laundering involving several mayors and rabbis.
Rabbis angle is the one that gets me Well, yeah, well, hey
Ron a kidney.
That is the opening of the show. Right there.
Say it again? No. To your own voice.
So just to follow up, those who were arrested were the mayors of
Hoboken. Secaucus, Richfield, state lawmakers, civil council,
city council members, zoning officials of building inspectors
and political candidates. The mayor of Secaucus Dennis lol
resigned on Tuesday, the New Jersey is just is is just bust.
You know, Letterman is doing bits on this. And here's the one
that just just just dawned on me that after doing the rabbi, it's
like it let him It says you know, and that's all these guys
are doing it It's changing kidneys, and there's a bunch of
rabbis, which really surprises me, he says, And when he says
that, Paul, yeah, out of the blue says, well, it doesn't
surprise me. Why they never do this like Letterman should have
stopped this what do you talk about? That surprise why?
He probably bought off a rabbi.
When did this become like take over from the diamonds? You
know?
Alright, so so there's a whole bunch of theories about this.
And the crackpot command centre fax machine is is just all a
Twitter about about what's going on here. And so there's tie ins
into made off money being slipped through the rabbi's into
Israel. You know, the the the so called Israelis who were
cheering with the Urban moving company bus across the from the
World Trade Centre when the towers came down. There's all
these different conspiracy theories. And all I can say is
where there's smoke, that could be some more smoke. So you know,
if you have any information on it, please. We'd like to know
because this being so underreported, where you have 44
people arrested. Have you seen any of this on the news? John,
is this on CNN? Is this on MSNBC, having pictures of
guys in cuffs being hauled off with big FBI on their back?
Yeah, thank you. But they're not you know, so So I've been
working very, very hard on trying to figure out what's
going on so the two stories one is this one because it just
thinks to hell on high water. There's there's a good one, so
much fishing is going on with this and the fact that it's
being just not being covered at all at all. You know, what are
we going to see tonight? Tonight, we're going to see
gates with the with the cop drinking beer with the
President. That's the news you're gonna get tonight.
Meanwhile, lawmakers corruption, people dying anthrax letters on
and on about Glenn Beck's calling Obama racist and making
a big stink about
shit. So this is where you get some real news. On top of that
there is some of this, you know, and I am still interested in, in
President Obama's perhaps in his investments into
biopharmaceutical companies then pushing avian and swine flu
agenda. You know, this is real work that's going on here. And
by the way, we need your help on on doing this.
But that's a rough segue. But I agree that we should, now's the
time to ask people to give us a hand that we have a lot of
people that have, you know, come up to the plate and given us 50
or $100. And we mentioned them all on Sunday. So you get your
name mentioned. We also have a new night this week, which is a
good thing. I will mention him on Sunday with it. We maybe
should have a theme for these Why not today? Because I was
prepared to do it on Sunday and and I don't have his name
immediately in front of me. Okay, good,
but that someone donated US 1000 American,
which is really kind of a shocker. I
mean, I do have his name. What do you why don't we do a good
shout out now and on Sunday.
Okay, well, we'll tell us well, hold
on. I mean, I've got it. I'm gonna search for the email. I
mean, clearly the system you're using doesn't anyway, the
point is, well, no, I might do with this machine. I mean, I
just I don't care. Basically podcasting machine. Like Well,
you got to pay more
geschehen of our some money for that, my friend. Okay.
We'll get him an extra big guest. By the way, we're gonna
have a sheepskin I get it I've got a calligrapher lined up and
you know, they're gonna get something they can frame.
Anyway, the point is, is that we need to go to no agenda dot
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Where you find, probably to the best podcasts in the world are
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Scott, thank you so much for your donation you are now
where did you get his place where
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I also wanted to plug the no agenda, mobile app version 1.2.
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God. Here it comes. I think we could have a logo contest.
The next thing I really want to focus on, John seriously is I'd
like to do a dinner a $500 a plate dinner, and I'm suggesting
that we just try one in Vegas. We only need 10 people for it to
be a success. We'll get you we'll get you a real good
dinner. Some real nice wine. It won't be some chicken
fundraiser, and it's gonna be easy.
No, no, it's just gonna be a good day. I got a letter from a
guy says he can organise one in New York City if he if we will
let him.
Yeah, but but Vegas is so much better because there's almost a
cheap flight to Vegas from anywhere in the world. And let's
just try it was to do a beta test in Vegas. Right we can do
that. Besides, you know what else Vegas has? cookers. Coming
to you from the minimum security containment sell in the crackpot
command centre in the soon to be demolished. Loft location under
eminent domain in which will
last on Sunday. I'm Adam curry and from Northern Silicon Valley
where I'll be watching the wrecking ball hit Adams place.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We're talking again on Sunday right here on no agenda.