Hey Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's July 12 2009. Time here Gitmo nation audio publication
112.
This is no agenda,
everybody coming to you from an undisclosed 17th century canal
house location. It is the crackpot command centre on
remotes coming to you via wi Max. I'm Adam curry.
Wow. I'm here in the Pacific Northwest. Get mo nation Pacific
Northwest. John C. Dvorak.
Buzzkill. Yeah, man, the bandwidth gods have not been
favourable this path past week for me. We the cable went out
here on Thursday. And it's been out ever since of course,
talking to customer support is a big joke. And
do they talk? Are they in India?
No, they're in Holland. But they might as well be in India,
because literally they go to this listening. So they've hired
India. I was like, it's the coax plugged in and said, Look,
dipshit, could you please put me through to an engineer who could
actually like, you know, check? No, no, no, we can't do that.
But, you know, we'll set up an appointment for you. Would you
like Monday? Is it second? Thursday? No, Monday between
eight and 12? Or eight and one or 12? And six will give me
between eight and one? I'm sorry, that's not available?
Well then give me between 12 and six. And? And it's so so sad. So
well, you know, can't you get it's like, you know, I'm sure
that more of the block is down. I mean, this just went out, you
know, there's obviously a problem at the head end
somewhere said well, then you should go to your neighbours and
ask them to call and complain too, because the more complaints
we get, the quicker that someone will come out and check. Like,
okay, I'm just
gonna have a business
plan is that it's UPC. UPC who I'd like to name and shame,
Universal Product Code. When did they get into the business if
they
might as well be the Universal Product Code? So anyway, so
there's this kind of the new service new wi Max service in
Amsterdam, which is I have to say, it's pretty cool. You you
go into the store, you buy the USB stick modem, and then you
sign up online, you can sign up you can prepay, so I prepaid for
a week. And you can decide what kind of bandwidth you want. So I
said, Give me the max, which is five megabits down, one megabit
up, plug it in, and the crap just works.
So So where do you pick it? So if I was visiting, I could just
go buy one of these things. And I'd be online? Well,
even better than that. I wanted to be even better than that. You
can use any wi Max modem, you know, it's just a modem. So
yeah, but
yeah, let me warn you that why Max modems are incompatible with
each other. Alright, well,
so in that case, yeah, you can come into Amsterdam, you pick up
a wi Max modem, which I think is 90 euros. As reasonable. It's
reasonable. And then you go
online, and only paying 20 bucks a day in a hotel? Sure. Hell
yeah.
And see, one week of the five down one up cost 995. And
obviously, if you do a longer term, you can do a contract. You
know, I did the prepaid. You can do a longer term and I think the
five down one up per month if you do a six month contract is
like 1495. And it's awesome. Of course, it doesn't give me you
know, porn on TV because that's still out but otherwise, it
allows me to do the show. Yeah, I'm pleasantly surprised. I have
to say of course let me sound good. Let me knock on wood
because you know that of course it'll crap out halfway through
it probably want to see how we're doing on the stream. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Lots of people on the stream. Cool. Oh, wait a minute.
Why does it say offline? What the hell is that?
Let me go look at the chat room. I'm listening to the chat room
today.
Can people still hear it because I'm getting like a
written still you guys still in the chat room? There are? Yes.
intosh Are you still hearing the Macintosh now?
Are these are dudes Twisted Lemon. I love it. I love it. So
do you want to start?
Well, we can start with your but you know, again, you know, I
want to remind people and I think the guy says the stream is
good. Don't touch it, Adam. Okay, message. I want to remind
people that we actually give them news before it actually
happens. You mean like Michael Jackson being murdered? We've
done this consistently, by the way, since the big
obsessiveness, flying, flying,
flying through everybody. We're all going to die from the flying
through
swine flu to everything in between and the oil fiasco. And
I mean, it's unbelievable. But yes, that's exactly what I'm
referring to Janet Jackson has come out and said she thinks
her. Her brother was murdered. Yeah,
da, da not just Jana. But Joe has come out and more members of
the family and now the LA Police Commissioner saying we're
treating it as possible murder investigation. Well, da, da. But
of course, the only reason they did that, John is they wanted to
hold back because they needed to extend the real news a little
bit to cover up what is actually happening in the world.
Yeah, well, that's a possibility, too. And I'll be
let's go over some of them. Some of them are possibly some real
news, then that's happening in the world now. Not real news.
But news is happening in the world some actual
news? Well, we kind of glossed over it last week, if we even or
Thursday, if we even discuss, I hear the helicopters coming. By
the way. Are they black? No, they're blue in their bull
coughs it's just the Dutch police. The news of the World
has has been caught or you know, it has come to light that they
were tapping cell phones of well, of course, what hits the
news is they were tapping cell phones of celebrities. And you
know, you wonder why News of the World always has the latest
celebrity gossip. First, News of the World is a Sunday newspaper
publication in the United Kingdom, Gitmo nation east that
does about nine or 10 million copies on per Sunday, per week.
And so they always have the latest news about celebrities
and sports figures, but they were also tapping the phones and
the text messages of a number of politicians. And
we kind of you suppose that's why you do it?
Yes. So of course the news is all focusing on oh my gosh, you
know, they know all this with this great stuff about Elle
Macpherson. But what's really going on, and the guard and I
have to say the Guardian has been all over this. You have to
understand some of the connections the conservative
conservative leader, David Cameron, so that's the shadow
government, as they call it, the opposition. His Director of
Communications is Andy Coulson, spelled coul s o n. And he was a
deputy editor and editor of the news of the World. At the time
when when this was taking place, and now Murdoch is of course new
to the world is part of the Sun, which is all part of the Murdoch
empire. He's paying people off to the tune of 1 million pounds
to stop the court cases and and you know, now I'm really
starting to understand and connect all these dots. Because
these guys are blackmailing politicians, you know, Murdoch,
of course, owns most media in the world. And so when you have
a blackmailing, just ask why you do it. I keep saying, you know,
they, they started initiating these wireless, you know, these
warrantless wiretaps, you know, that's what it's all about. It's
about blackmail and stock tips. Not terrible. Let's keep
it on the stock tips for a second because that's where it
gets very interesting. And I'll put these links in the show
notes, obviously, at no agenda.media.com You can find it
at no agenda.squarespace.com Because it is connected to this
code that was stolen quote, stolen from Goldman Sachs, this
computer code, which actually has a name, they call it, I
think, the doomsday box or something like that, hold on.
To come up with something like that. Everybody's got a sense of
humour,
my Russian sources, you know, they always come up with good
stuff a lot for some reason. 8 million browser windows just
opened on that was kind of weird. Some kind of funny pop
up. I'm gonna get the story for you.
cracking. Adam curry pop up.
Yeah. Tracking. We're in command. We've yes, we've got
him. We've got him now. You go in there. No. Oh, I love you
too. Sorry. It's my, my producer. Did you throw up in
your mouth again?
going okay, diggin where you're digging with
Okay, here we go. All right. So yeah, it is called the doomsday
box. So you have to understand that the here's here's all these
connections and eventually comes back to Murdock. The Israeli
opposition leader former Mossad agent Zippy Lavine. Zip tz IP, I
apparently turned over a complete dossier, which includes
knowledge of this code, which was written by the ISA, which is
the Israeli security forces or whatever it is. And see ya
agency. Thank you. And so there's a lot of confirmation
and it's really good links in these articles that we'll put up
in the show notes including Bloomberg I'm about here's a
quote never let it be said that the Justice Department can't
move quickly when it gets a hot tip about an alleged crime at a
Wall Street bank, it does help those the party doing the
complaining is the bank itself and not merely an aggrieved
customer. Another plus, if the bank tells the fed the security
of US financial markets is at stake, this brings us to the
strange tale of Goldman Sachs Group Inc. And Sergey at let
aleni cough. So Elena cough is the former Goldman computer
programmer who was arrested on charges July 3, that he stepped
up as he stepped off a flight at Liberty International Airport in
Newark, New Jersey, which was two days after Goldman told the
government that he had stolen his secret rapid fire stock and
commodities trading software in early June. So, you know,
obviously, and the point is, is very clear that when the bank
says to the feds, Hey, man, he stole some code. I mean,
normally, you'd have like a normal path of investigation,
but no, they get this guy within two days at the airport, right?
They jump all over him because they know what's really going
on. This code is now pretty much confirmed to be the black box
that sits in the middle really before the trades are executed.
And it was being used for this rapid fire trading. Where you
can do like you can do a trade in a millisecond and make 0.5
cents, right that you know, 0.5 cents per trade. Now, of course,
if you're doing computer trading, you can do 8 million of
these trades a day, then starts to get a little bit more
interesting. Or you could take do 800 million of them. And what
this does is it creates two things. One, it's very little
incremental, you know, pieces of margin that you're making on
these rapid fire quick trades and make no mistake, the
computers that run on Wall Street are huge. I mean, this is
just massive iron that they're running. But it also gives a
fake sense of liquidity in a stock. Because when you hold a
stock, you say yeah, I'm gonna bind to the stock because look,
there's like, you know, eight 80 million shares being traded
every single day. But it's being done in a very, very, very small
margin. So the doomsday programme, according to these
articles, was created by the ISA programmers who were then
working under Chairman of the Israeli National Security
Council, Dr. Uzi, our rod let's see who else was in this. His
wife Dr. Ruth rod Vice President Chief Risk Officer of Bank Leumi
L, eu MI, and Jacob Ezra Merkin, who bought the bank from the
Israeli government, which was then headed up by Ariel Sharon,
and Finance Minister Ehud Olmert. So what this comes back
to his that Jacob Ezra Merkin, gave this code or allowed access
to it to his longtime business partner, who could that be John?
And now who do you think Bernard made off?
And he used it for his own personal gain, you know, to take
the 50 or 60 below
how long is taking made offs got to live? Oh, he's
gonna go any minute now. He's, he's gonna He's gonna He's gonna
be hard attacked. Within seconds. It's a new verb, by the
way. You can get hard,
actually. Actually, I don't think he's gonna be the fake
heart attack that we might be looking at with the Enron guy.
You don't think so?
No, students, they want to stay kind of stuff starts coming out.
And there's all kinds of, you know, connected that problems.
You got to break them. You got to break the chain someplace,
you know, it's just the way it is. Sorry, Bernard. Hmm.
Well, so anyway,
it'd be easier anyway to do it that way, you know, at this
point, you know, well, it
depends, you know, he's got a lot of dough sitting around. Of
course, he did send that money off, I would presume and there's
been lots of speculation that, you know, where did all the
money go that he stole? Well, of course, he sent that to his
buddies in Israel, I guess. But now Murdoch, of course, knows
everything because he tapped everyone's phone calls. And
probably everyone's phone calls around the world.
Yeah. And yeah, Murdoch's in the catbird seat is your mining
character in the James Bond movie.
Which one is that? The one where
this guy this this publisher tries to take over the world and
he looks a
little like Murdoch. Interesting. Which movie was
that? A couple of movies ago. I
think it was the last one. It was the first one was the new
guy that last maybe the last one done with what's his name? The
British a good looking British actors, irked that he got fired.
Sorry, I don't know. Oh, we can't
remember anything was pathetic. I don't know anybody tell me in
this chat room who was the name of the actor that what was it?
Somebody in the chat room must know this James Bond movie I'm
talking about and they can cite it.
So anyway, so So it seems like
chatroom really listens to us, by the way. No, no,
they're just sitting there bitching about how come I'm John
due to the show together in the same location, they should have
dinner together and record it. That's Ross. Pierce Brosnan.
Right? So I don't know, man, just take a look at the Obama
administration. Take a look at all of the Goldman Sachs
executives who were in there and has been in there and how
rampant it is. In fact, this report even says that economists
around the world are now calling Wall Street, the fourth branch
of the government, which is kind of funny.
I like it. Well, here we go. What since we're on that topic,
fed refuses to disclose recipients of 2 trillion
Federal Reserve, they've been refusing that for months,
they're refusing
now a new Bloomberg suit. But now the big news is not that so
much is that is the where is it? It's the fact that they tried to
slip in a Audit the Fed,
right? Oh, right. They tried to slip it attach it to another
bill.
Yeah, it's just now ain't gonna happen. This whole thing ain't
gonna happen.
Well, they do have enough to pass the House. But the I guess
what I did not know is even if you have like 280 people or
whatever, who who has co sponsor a bill, it still has to be
introduced. Right. And that Nancy Pelosi would have to
introduce this bill. How does that work, John? I mean, now
they
get they'd kept the writer out of the bill. By the way, it's a
Tomorrow Never Dies, seems to be the movie.
But tell me how how do you get a bill onto the floor of the
house? I mean, is this like some magical process?
No, it's just, it just goes through it goes. First is
written up and then it goes through a committee and then the
committee has to submit it to the house, and then the house
has to accept it. And that's done through a various it's just
a bureaucracy until it gets to the floor. And then when it gets
to the floor that gets voted on after debate. Okay, so but takes
a long time. By the way,
can they take years and years
maybe is where all the action is, is the committees, the
committees, the committees, the committees are the ones who make
the decision whether it's going to be put out or not. And it
usually gets killed in committee. Because the committee
just says, No, we're not going to do it when you have the
committee's dominated by the party in charge. So it'd be all
that so the committee may have nine people and it's five
Democrats and four Republicans or six Democrats and three
Republicans go out, boom stages killed in committee.
Well, that's kind of a weird process.
It's a good process it takes it slows things down. The problem
is, there's all these people adding things to the bill at the
end, right? The bill comes out of committee, the find bill, and
then people start slipping in the bullshit.
Right? Well, how come this can't be slipped in his bullshit on
some other bill? They're gonna
try, but it's obviously of can't get slipped into as bullshit on
this bill. It's going to be just as hard to be lifted his
bullshit on any building is not going to happen.
That's so disappointing. Our system clearly doesn't work.
Well, no, that part doesn't work. It's corrupt. It does work
if it wasn't for corrupt politicians. And that ended
fixes in and the fact that the whole country is being run by
public relations departments. You know, the only thing that
it's actually saved us is the fact that we the public
relations department was at just before the internet came along,
and the web started taking over, essentially, the public
relations departments to all these large corporations were
writing to the newspapers, newspaper, people weren't
reporting on anything. So right now, anymore, because they don't
know who's the who's the movers and shakers out there. Man. I
was last time you were called by a public relations person
regarding this show. They don't even know it exists.
So along those very lines,
by the way, have an audience as big as most newspapers. So yeah,
so what? Yeah, screwed up. And we actually
make money without actually losing money on the deal. We
have to beg for it. But we do make some.
Yeah, I mean, we're not losing a million dollars a week. So like
our local paper in San Francisco,
carry our New York Research Department, Carrie Lutz sent us
I think he sent it to you as well, John a, an article that
ran in the New York Post, which of course, is a tabloid
newspaper. But in these days, I would say that you'll probably
get more real news from the tabloid newspapers than you'll
get from from any other source, which of course, they're the
only ones that can actually print it because it's so
outrageous that it gets written off as crazy talk. Yeah. The
title of this is gagged the internet. Apparently, Cass
Sunstein, a Harvard law professor who has has been
appointed to a post within the Obama administration that will
grant him powers. As these your article says that are merely
mind boggling. It explicitly supports using the court courts
to impose a chilling effect on speech that might hurt someone's
feelings. So this is how he's working on stifling free speech
on the internet. Yeah,
yeah, that's a good effect. It's a it's a it's a. It might work.
It might is he has a new book, which is coming out advanced
copies, of course, were read by by the journalist who wrote this
article. This book is called on rumours how falsehoods spread,
why we believe them, what can be done. It's gone out to reviewers
ahead of its September publication date. But
considering the prominence with which Sunstein is about to be
endowed, and I'm going to he's, he's actually his. He has been
chosen by President Obama to head the White House Office of
Information and Regulatory Affairs, John, finally, the
Ministry of Truth is here. It's about the White House Office of
Information and Regulatory Affairs. This has been reported
in The Wall Street Journal. But of course, it's you haven't
really heard about this because we're more concerned with
Michael Jackson's murder. And let me see if I can find, here
we go. He worries that sustain that we're headed for a future
in which quote, people's beliefs are a product of social networks
working as echo chambers, in which false rumours spread like
wildfire. That future they're already here. According to
Sunstein, we hardly need to imagine a world however, in
which people and institutions are being harmed by the rapid
spread of damaging falsehoods via the internet. We live in
that world what might be done to reduce the harm well, he
questions the libel standard basically, it comes down to a
notify and take that
puts you in your myself in the driver's seat when it comes to
some of those early lawsuits. Yeah, well, it was always
somebody saying something nasty about us. Right and it hurts my
feelings. It hurts
my feelings are so freakin hurt John, what he's going for is a
libel. So a system of notify and takedowns will have takedown
notices for untruths on the internet. So if you write an
untruth notify and take down
they'll be this is gonna be the government dole because you're
gonna have to hire millions of people to do this. I want a job.
I got to study some law. I got to pass the bar. I gotta get
into some kind of law programme.
Take down notice for for. And by the way, how does that work with
global warming?
Oh, well, Oh, geez. Well, of course, you know, you if you say
the global warming doesn't exist, you'll get a takedown
notice. Yeah, you'll get a total takedown notice. We were talking
about what's her name? The weird chick who was testifying? We had
a sound clip of her last time.
Janine Garoppolo she looks a bit like
Janine Garoppolo. But no, that's not the one. The other one.
The Lisa Jackson, Lisa
Jackson. Yeah. And I'm, I'm just skimming through my email to
find this. To find this clip. How come I can't find this now?
Let me just search for it. So apparently, two years ago, the
Supreme Court passed a ruling that said that the EPA which she
now heads would be allowed to create legislation to stop
greenhouse gases. And she would but there were several other
memos that basically said there's no science to support
that greenhouse gases are creating, you know, global
warming. And I can't believe that maybe this wasn't the same
hearing, John, that you pulled the clip from, but I have a
YouTube video here. And it's the
same thing I want to mention something to get you have to add
to this to give me more background. There's also a
proviso in within that, that that scenario you described that
chi, the head of the EPA, or any head of the EPA, not just her,
uh, can, can defy, and they talked about this in these
hearings can define anything as a greenhouse gas if they want
to, you know, yes. So, which means the M could be a
greenhouse?
Well, I think co2 pretty much covers most things, since that's
the shit we're exhaling when we breathe so I think that the
attacks on that you're gonna have to hold your breath. And in
fact, that's where these the the prob the saying will come from,
don't hold your breath. You go. So there's a smoking gun memo.
And Barrasso actually questions her on it. And I think we should
listen to a little bit of is a little bit of this clip,
stopping when it gets too much for you, John.
Senator Whitehouse comments that we need lawful, fact based
regulation. And I appreciate the this is Bourassa speaking
Jackson's comments that she wanted to make sure that we did
this without overburdening small businesses and others. Okay. And
that brings me my concern. And the question was Jackson, about
the EPA recent proposal finding greenhouse gases, as you said,
are a danger to the public health and welfare?
Oh, I know why, John, this is actually from May. This, this
hearing. So I guess we missed this one all together. It's the
Environment and Public Works Committee really
appears to me that that decision was based more on political
calculation than on scientific ones. In a memo that I received
this morning, and it's marked deliberative attorney client
privilege. nine pages. You are mentioned on every page of this
memo, it is a White House memo. Counsel in this administration,
repeatedly, repeatedly questions the lack of scientific support
you have for this proposed finding. It's here nine pages.
This is a smoking gun, saying that your findings were
political, not scientifically, not scientific here, page two,
there is concern that the EPA is making a finding based on harm
from substances that have no demonstrated direct health
effects. Love that, such as respiratory or toxic effects.
You then talk about regulating greenhouse gases and the
economy. Dow Jones newswire this morning us regulation of
greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide, quote, is likely to
have serious economic consequences for businesses
small and large across the economy. That's why the White
House memo warned the Environmental Protection Agency
earlier this year, here it is making the decision to regulate
carbon dioxide under the Clean Air Act, for the first time is
likely to have serious economic consequences for regulated
entities throughout the US economy, including small
businesses and small communities.
This is really important stuff because people don't realise
what's being voted on and how it will indeed completely tank
every single company because of the high prices of energy costs,
which will include just turning lights on how do
you square that when you say I won't don't want any overriding
effect on the economy of small businesses, but this own
internal document Mark deliberative attorney client
privilege says everything you're proposing is going to have
serious economic consequences. Let's listen to our visitors in
this nation. Charlie Munger, who was the Warren Buffett's partner
at Berkshire Hathaway. He was recently on CNBC. He said an
artificial market and government mandated carbon credits would be
quote, monstrously stupid to do right now. He added that the
move is almost demented. Other nations continue industrial
development, emitting vast amounts of greenhouse gases. I
could go on but I am fascinated to to see what you have been
saying and yet to see what the White House has been writing and
where you're on every page would you like to comment?
Certainly I'd like to comment Senator
Latina
it's hard she's mixed. I can't tell she's like she's looks like
she She kind of has a panel she's she's not a she's just
maybe half black half Latina. Puerto Rican she might be Puerto
Rican I don't know. Jonathan's your last name could be anything
your voice just went up like four octaves that's pretty cool.
How do you do that? It's so it's someone in the house downloading
porn again? Yeah. Something going on anyway. You sound
horrible. You went up three octaves I swear to God I wish
you're gonna hear it.
Well, let me see what I've got going and maybe there's
something downloading. Know that I just sound like it's all the
time.
I like it. We'll keep are you What did you do with the real
divorce Chuck? Who are you?
Got him? We have captured Mr. Divac are humans much die?
I don't have that document in front of me. So I will comment
generally on any issues you you bring up.
Inquire if a senator intends to make that document a matter of
record Hell yeah. Unanimous permission Chairman I would be
happy to do that. That way we all know we're talking
she makes a face all man you just want to hate
her about and I appreciate it. Yes, she is.
hurt her feelings by saying that. Oh,
you could get a takedown notice for saying that dude.
I will answer briefly Senator because I saw I disagree with
several of the characterizations. The first is
that the endangerment finding is a scientific finding mandated by
law mandated by the Supreme Court,
which by the way, is not true. Because if you look at the
documents, and I'll put those in the show notes as well, the
Supreme Court actually did not say you have to make regulations
they said it says, Well, you know, you could if you wanted
to, but it has to be based on scientific fact, which of
course, what the big dispute is Supreme
Court ruled two years ago that EPA owe the American people a
determination as to whether greenhouse gases either in whole
or individually, endanger public health and welfare. That
analysis had been done. Really before I took the oath of oh,
that I'll happen with someone else I wasn't a part of that if
your happiness these divorced,
we did review it as I promised to do at my confirmation
hearing, we reviewed the science of it.
We reviewed the science you look like a scientist Miss Jackson,
we went through looks like
Like, he doesn't know anything. I don't know. You know, she used
to be the head that she got the job because she was the head of
the some the New Jersey she worked with the governor's
office or something. She was the head of the New Jersey Air Board
for a while or something like that. So she somehow I don't
know how they picked her. But it was ridiculous. And I'll tell
you this, I used to work. In one of my many jobs. Of course, I
was an air pollution inspector.
John, John, hold on a second. And now something really weird
is going on. Because first of all, the voice is killing me.
Second of all, you even look like you're offline on Skype.
You're You're
Oh no, I'm on I'm on invisible, but that I do that. Well, did I
get changed? Don't
go on Joe on invisible for a second. And let me call you
back. Because this is this is not okay. All right, go. Make
sure that you're not it. Can I still call you if you're the
ego? All right.
Say something. And yes, you can. By the way, you can call me when
I'm
invisible. Let's try it right now. All right, you're back. And
the question was who? Who is this Lisa Jackson?
Yeah, she was like the head of the New Jersey, the Arab board
for a while and she's a bureaucrat, and she I don't
think she even has a science degree or anything. So I don't
know what she I don't know why she's the head of the EPA. It
makes no sense to me whatsoever. There's probably plenty of very
qualified people, but they've got this woman. But the jersey
connection is always a little sketchy.
Like I saw easy on jersey, man go easy.
Just saying. So I worked for the air pollution district as a
young man. And we had some guys from Jersey that were part of
that. And they said that basically essentially when they
went out and did their job in Jersey where air pollution guys,
it was all by pay offs. And by all you know there's there was
no real work. It was all you know, grease. And so now this is
the woman coming from a
story brand new, right? She's She was just appointed to the
new head of the FDA or no EPA. She's really reasonably new,
isn't she?
Yeah, she's brand new. She's Obama's man.
And man she is.
And I just don't trust her. And I don't like her. I don't like
that smugness. I don't think a government servant should be
talking down to everybody the way she does. She's She's
incredibly glib and smug and arrogant. She's creepy.
Yeah. Well, let's listen to some more of that glibness you didn't
see review through the White House. So again, I'm not sure
what that document may say. It's deliberative. So obviously, it's
people's opinions. And it's people's opinions. It does not
mean regulation. I have said over and over as the President,
that we do understand that there are costs of the economy of
addressing global warming emissions, and that the best way
to address them is through a gradual move to a market based
programme, like cap and trade.
Oh my god, ah,
there's a difference between a cap and trade programme which
can be authorised by legislation and is being discussed, and a
regulatory programme with respect to EPA is regulatory
authority. It is true that if the endangerment finding is
finally John D endangerment finding, you gotta love it by US
EPA
would have authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. And
what I've said in that regard is that we would be judicious, we
would be deliberative, we would follow science, we would follow
the law. And I would call your attention to our greenhouse gas
registry rule, where we particularly didn't look for
small businesses to register or have to report emissions. If you
want an indication of where we know the significant sources of
greenhouse gases are there in transportation in the utility
sector. So
what she's saying is she's she's actually turning it around and
she's saying, Oh, well, you know, small businesses won't
have to pay for cap and trade, but that she's she's avoiding
the point which is the kind of the whole cap and trade
programme will raise energy prices to an extreme degree
that's
making it possible for it. Yeah, well, this is because she, you
know, I don't know if she's being insincere or she's or
she's an idiot. I'm not absolutely sure one of the two,
but there's an article that people should try to track down
I'll send you make sure it'll be in the show notes, which is the
Telegraph's article on July 11 2009, just came out climate
change the sun and the oceans do not lie by Christopher Booker.
And he goes on and on and on with the with the hub What a
crock that this seems to be the especially the cap and trade but
he makes let me just read this in a very fun first paragraph.
The moves not being made by the world's political establishment
to lock us into December's Copenhagen treaty to halt global
warming are as alarming as anything that's happened in our
lifetimes. And last week in Italy, the various branches of
our emerging world government, G eight and g 20. agreed in
principle that the world must by 2050 cut its co2 emissions in
half. Britain in the US already committed to cutting their
fossil fuels by more than 80% short of an unimaginable
technological revolution. This could only be achieved by
closing down virtually all of our economic activity, no
electricity, no transport, no industry. All of this is being a
gone by a gigantic publicity machine by the UN by serried
ranks of government funded scientists by cheerleaders just
Al Gore last week comparing the fight against global warming to
that against Hitler's Nazis.
Don't telegraph go telegraph
and by politicians who have no idea what they're setting in
train, this makes this even otter that the runaway warming
predicted by their computer models simply isn't happening.
This, by the way, has been pointed up only by there's
somebody the other day that said, you know, right wing talk
radio listeners get this kind of information, then it dev never
goes into the mainstream, and people are always baffled. Then
they cite like the Duke University student fake rape
charges that everybody knew was phoney that listens to real
news. But the New York Times was still promoting running these
kids out of school. And it's just typical, this particular
stuff, right, and I'm hearing a lot about it. They have not been
able to confirm any warming whatsoever over the past five or
six years. And in the end, and there's no sea level rising, and
there's nothing going
there are 30,000 scientists who aren't and led by the guy who
started the Weather Channel, who are suing Al Gore, and the UN
about the so called Science of global warming. You don't even
hear about that. No, of course not. Why would 30,000 of which
8000 are PhDs. 30,000
Nope, you do better. You know, I want to get that Janine
Garoppolo clip so we can play it over and over and over again.
Which one? Is that? Where she says the Janine Garoppolo clip
that I think we played a couple of weeks ago where she says
everybody's in total agreement about this.
Okay, hold on. I can find it. I know I can find it.
Everyone's in total agreement. Everybody, yeah.
Yeah, we played that. That was a that was a while ago, wasn't it?
Yeah, it was vich. Back there. We did we need to get a database
or some of these, because the one I really want to play over
and over is jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs.
Shoot me. You know what? Janine? garofolo. I think she just
misguided. You know, she's she's not a shield. She's just dumb.
She has done
one list a little bit more of a Miss Jackson.
Oh, yeah. Might as well don't call me nasty.
One quick question, Madam Chairman, if I could, could you
please expand? Explain then by what authority? Can the EPA
decide to not include all of these other emitters of carbon
dioxide who do reach the admission thresholds set out in
the Clean Air Act? I mean, how can anyone in your
administration decide where to draw that line? The law is as
you just said, it's clear. So how do you not go after everyone
or expose yourself to lawsuits for all of those others
than other things? I know you this has been an issue that
we've gone back and forth on this one. I look forward to
having continued dialogue typically.
We'll keep going back and forth.
On if it comes to that point, where we're into a regulatory
mode on greenhouse gas emissions, I will say only the
following two things. I'm not prepared here to outline the
legal strategy. Certainly it would be one of the things we
would propose as part of a regulatory agenda. The second
thing I would say is to remind you that we in under the Clean
Air Act have the potential to regulate all those sources you
talk about
Yeah, we can we can regulate everybody including your fart
senator for other
contaminants, schools and hospitals and farms and Dunkin
donut.
Did you just say Dunkin Donuts? Yeah, oh my gosh, he did listen
to that
now for other contaminants, schools and hospitals and for
poems and Dunkin Donuts
I say short Dunkin Donuts and we
say this that or she's she shilling for Dunkin Donuts I
would be sceptical here because it's the Sarah Palin could get
busted for wearing a logo on her shirt. Why is this woman
plugging Dunkin Donuts
and why? And she comes in she doesn't even come up with if
you're using an example you almost like will pause for a
second but she it comes it rolls right off her tongue like she's
been talking about it and Dunkin Donuts
and Dunkin Donuts. And we don't because we use we make
regulations smartly, address the threats in the best way possible
and with an eye towards understanding that we don't want
to unduly affect those who can least afford to pay. So I do
believe that the regulatory process allows us the
opportunity to make those decisions and to do it but we're
not at that point yet.
Okay, move on to more crackpot news.
Oh, I got I got I went on a little we have a little
interlude. John, something that I picked up on YouTube, which I
think is well worth playing a little piece of this is a little
bit of music for everybody.
Got the needle on the record, put the needle on the record,
when the
only way that a human being can get a bird flu or a swine flu is
if it is injected in
this is a trillion featuring Patta physics made and our team
it's called say no to the vaccine.
Got the needle on the record. It's a great
record because the needle is the needle breaks the record when
the needle is the prevention of the fever bringing this to the
receiver. There's no effort believing.
All right. Okay. You got to listen to the lyrics. You got to
see the video. We'll put it in the Shannon Lee.
Send make sure this show notes. The yeah, there's a bunch of
stuff going on. I mean, it's getting it actually. It's going
beyond crackpot the the vaccination stuff is right. And
by the way, we are aware of that, that we talked about when
we had that woman's do her pitch about you know what the
government's going to do that she is an anti vaccination
person running an anti vaccination site. Our concern is
that are these mine is this the site is so slick. Well, not only
that, but
the site is registered. To me, I have to agree a lot of people
are saying, oh, you should do your research. The FDIC. It's an
anti vaccination organisation. Yeah, it's an anti vaccination
organisation. Two things. I don't like it three things. One
is it's very, very slick, too. It really doesn't have a
donation page. Now, I don't know a lot. I mean, Jesus Christ, we
asked for doing it, we got a big star buttons to click on for our
donations, they don't really have a donation page anywhere.
It's really have to really go to the site overview and somewhere
hidden in it. There's like, here's how you can donate 25
bucks.
On top of notions at all,
they're asking you to post your personal information. Yeah, they
said they say they won't do anything with it, but they do
ask you to post it. And third, they're registered in Virginia.
Okay. Now, why are they in Virginia home of all spooks? I
might add, why are they registered? In Virginia, you
know, if you're going to set up a nonprofit, wouldn't you want
to set it up in anywhere but Virginia, it just doesn't seem
like the right place to do it. And I'm very, very concerned
about you know, the stuff they're asking people to, to
give them the information that they're requesting. So
and it's dead again. Let's point out again, it's extremely slick.
It doesn't seem to be really begging for money. Like you'd
think there's something amiss now she may be the most sincere
person in the world she couldn't be you know, very you know, much
gentler what she's what she says she's into, but I'm just not
happy with with what I'm seeing. And so we're sceptical that's
all Yeah, but we're not idiots. Oh, you don't do your research.
Oh, my favourite you're not doing your homework. All I
didn't pay school. I don't do homework.
Oh, John. My favourite new jingle
you will obey will
take the shot. A form of the Ebola virus has been detected in
pigs for the first time raising concerns it could mutate and
pose a new risk to humans reports the BBC. The Ebola
Reston virus
is gonna mutate and kill us all. Yeah, oh,
yeah. Well, we need to have a backup plan. You know, if people
don't go for the swine flu Ebola already has kind of that deathly
thing to it? Oh, yeah, Ebola is bad. Yeah. Researchers are
concerned that pigs might provide a melting pot where the
virus could mutate into something more menacing for
humans. Since a BBC how's it feel being on the payroll of the
CIA? The new discovery in the Philippines is featured in the
Journal of Science. Is that a real publication? The Journal of
Science? Oh, yeah, no, it's
a big one. However,
the research is from the US Centres for Disease Control and
Prevention stress that the virus at present appears to pose no
risk to humans. Right.
Just the setup, it's the setup. It's the pre you know your
telegraph your blow its code.
Yeah, you're right. Gotta go great report from our bell. I
don't even wants me to mention his name. Now. He doesn't say
anything. I just like to read this for a second. And I really
appreciate he wrote it in English. It's not as it's not as
native tongue. And he gives us a report from Buenos Aires,
Argentina. And you know, so I love the show, blah, blah. You
guys are crazy, but you know, you're spot on. I'm from Buenos
Aires, Argentina. Everything here is the same only on a
smaller scale. The mass media is mainly controlled by one big
multimedia they own the largest newspaper, TV Channel News cable
channel two cable networks and an ISP, among other things. Now,
if you start wondering if allowing such a concentration
was a good idea, yes. And they focus on drilling their
political opinion real news of course, Michael Jackson's The
big story Britney Spears also shooting a new video and of
course, putting as much fear into the people as possible. The
fear comes mainly in the form of crime news, but now a new star
is born in Buenos Aires, swine flu. We had election a few weeks
ago, the flu was a minor story on TV and papers but when
elections was was old news, the swine flu hit the big time it's
called influenza A here as the suffix h one. No one is too long
for the idiots on TV here. The rest of the news banging is
staggering. People are freaking out. Some stuff is out of stock
like cleaning gel with alcohol and surgical masks. But this is
not the worst number. This is a report from Buenos Aires. Okay,
so this is a report from a real producer listener who listens to
the show one of your colleagues. This is not the worst. Schools
and universities have been suspended for a couple of weeks
now to avoid the transmission risk. cinemas and theatres are
closing as well. The general idea you catch this flu you die.
The number of a number of victims is also sketchy. The
official count right now is about 80. But hey, a lot of
people die here we have where we have. Most people die here poor
people die of hunger, a country with 10,000 yearly deaths just
from car accidents. Bear in mind, the total population is
only 40 million country where dozens die from dengue gay. Yes,
of course. These are very poor people in the North close to the
border with Bolivia and Paraguay Paraguay Of course, where the
bushes are going to move to so no one gives a shit about them.
Besides the dangers there. It doesn't spread or threatened
good and remote cities like Buenos Aires. The media rarely
if ever covers these deaths. Yeah, good cities. In
conclusion, we don't even need a compulsive vaccination, people
will happily form queues and pay for it. Nothing like a nice and
feared middle class asshole. The people behind all this count on
them. Last topic, Monsanto I won't bore you with the details.
Monsanto has a legal dispute with our country claiming
royalties for the GM soybeans as they didn't have much luck here.
They tried to get it from get it in Europe from the buyers. Keep
up the good shows. I'm gonna go with a $24 yearly subscription.
Hey, I'm from South America after all, Abel Thank you very
much. We highly highly appreciate your report. Very
very important this kind of stuff.
It is we need more stuff like that. Meanwhile, Bill Gates is
in the news. This is this is literally unreal news story. Oh,
you might want to
so apparently some patent Watch has found that Bill Gates has
reportedly filed several patents aimed to at stop hurricanes.
Gate and other inventors plan to use large fleets of vessels to
mix warm Gulf of Mexico surface water with colder water under
the surface. Conduits would extend from one vessel beyond
the oceans thermocline which is an invisible line separating the
warmer mixed layer of waters closer to the surface and the
cooler and calmer water that is seen further below. Hmm, yeah,
that's what I thought. It's like, isn't this tampering with
Mother Nature? Well, yeah, maybe it should be the junior you
doing carbon swap outs or something to even do this or
even talk about it? I don't know.
Well, I think the whole joke, of course, is that the government
has the ability to control the weather. They've had it for
many, many men. Oh, here we go. And well, please, please once
again, go look at the weather maps on September 11 2001,
you'll see that there was a huge hurricane just off the coast of
New York. No one ever talks about it. I mean, a huge one.
And right after the attacks, the buildings came down, it went
away. This is what HAARP is, of course, H AAA RP, go Google
that. They have this capability to create hurricane. So I
presume that they also have the capability to divert them or
destroy them. So I don't know why gates is doing this.
And you think he'd know better? Yeah. So here's another story. I
couldn't this one here is this grant ran in the blog. Uncle
Dave found it. I thought it was a classic. This you probably
haven't heard this one yet. recovery.gov By the way, they
never bothered to get recovery.org because they're too
dumb. recovery.gov is going to cause a they're going to make it
or they're going to redo the site. And they're going to read
just to redo a site of website away they're gonna drop. How
much to a million dollars.
Who has been awarded this contract? John? I wish it was
me. Yeah. We could set up a Squarespace site in seconds and
make it really rock
the contract calls for spending 9.5 million to January in other
words, it could have dropped 10 million in six months for
website what this is our new it just happened this just got some
dude Obama's superstar you know, check guy that's this czar of
tech. What is this? Like? You know, you can find three three
coders in a basement that can do a better job and these guys are
going to do and it's going to cost you like nothing a couple
$100,000 man
John, you've got to go to the website of the company that was
awarded this contract smart tronics.com CRM Mike Alfa Romeo
Tango Romeo, Oscar November in the X ray. And thou this is like
a total militaristic sight net ops providing netcentric
enterprise services to operate, defend and assure the Global
Information grid. Oh, my
smart tronics
smart tronics Yeah,
yeah, looking at it. There's actually two sides to get one
spelled with a C and one spelled with an X.
Well, it's the one with the axe.
The it's the parent site. According to this thing. Wire so
these guys here it is smart. tronics is honoured to have been
selected as the GSA Alliance prime GSA GSA
GSA This is a GSA
service it's Yeah, but But it's wait it's a GSA Alliant prime
it's what is this a science fiction novel? What are they
coming up with these names? John play that you will obey thing
again. Hold on. Yeah, we definitely need that Oh, and get
through it. The GSA Alliant prime in supportive recovery.gov
former formal press release was soon to follow. Not one news.
Paper has picked up on the fact that this is a fiasco. $18
million to do a website
enterprise software solutions, but they're like, What is net
ops? So they do net ops?
Smart translate? They got a lot of interesting. Ajax on this
site. Yeah. I mean, it's not like they obviously they know
what they're doing. But they obviously know what they're
doing in terms of design. Except that they were they were
actually waiting switch pages could be better. But they they
know what you're kind of doing in terms of design. Without us
you really know what they're doing when it comes to working
within the government framework.
Let's see what what jobs are available.
C and D lead honest to nerds at minimum wage to do the site tear
web
developer here we go web developer that hiring one guy.
That's the point.
We're looking for a developer that has two or more years
experience in web development. That includes at least one year
experience in application development for SharePoint. Oh,
God,
SharePoint,
yeah, they're building on ASP.
Oh, that's hilarious.
She's $18 million. So the initial outlay which will be
$9,516,324 Oh, why don't you put 75 cents in there as well? Are
you kidding? Here comes covers many facets, redesigning
construction of a new website, installation of hardware and
software infrastructure, hosting an operation For the website,
more robust data storage and enhanced content management
system and contract law, contract labour support and
other features. If the Recovery Board exercises options under
the contract, the cost could total $17,948,518 over a period
ending in January 2014 2014. Oh my god with the oh, this is
cool. With the assistance of GSA said URL E to veiny, the
Recovery Board Chairman, we proceeded in a careful fashion
to find the best value for the taxpayer dollar
lievable value
he went on to say in the end this website above all else must
be user friendly and provide the public with necessary
information on how its money is being spent.
Unbelievable. scam of the decade.
Oh my god. Was this an open? Was there an open tender for this?
Could we have put on our cars, our Squarespace Squarespace
skills? I mean, please? They mean, we look at look at No
agenda.squarespace.com And tell me we couldn't have built a
great recovery.gov site with the Squarespace technology. Guys are
WordPress wordpress.com free you can get free hosting even
Kate love to do the government site.
Oh, here it is. To veiny and the 12 inspectors general who
comprise the Recovery Board. Let's find out who they are in a
minute. Describe the contract as firm fixed and competitively bid
for Operations and Maintenance providing a full solution
package to include develop the next generation of recovery.gov,
which will be visually pleasing, user friendly and highly
interactive. Dude, we wrote this crap in 1997. And we scammed
companies then here a mapping capacity that allows users to
search for spending all the way down to their own
neighbourhoods. Oh, it's called geo information services douche
the capacity to store and easily download massive amounts of
data. A state of the art security platform that will
protect the integrity and the availability of the data and a
backup system in the event of a major catastrophe such as 911,
or a large scale power outage. Contracts support to perform a
wide array of hosting maintenance and operational
services.
Why they mentioned out of the blue, a large scale power outage
11 type event. Here's the board. Let me see who's on this frickin
board. Who are these people? Members? Who are the members of
this board? The Honourable Oh my God, John. Oh, geez.
You got to see where you're getting that.
Where are you getting it from? recovery.gov. Here's the link.
Oh, the board. I see the honourable URL e de veiny. Who
looks like like, like a judge in a hick town where you get
arrested for speeding?
He does. And he's proud of that look.
Okay, what is his what is his deal? He was
eating the board. What's his background? Oh, I'm going to
read more. You're now exiting the recovery.gov website. You
will now access something or other
is the site that doesn't work doing doing dotnet
I came up.
G OOI g.gov. That works
working. I have no idea what that is. It's a department of
some. Here he is. Here's a picture of him. Oh, my goodness.
Yeah. Click on that link when that thing comes up. I did. He's
a law enforcement guy. Police officer
there you go for some hick town.
Some big town in Massachusetts. Oh, my graduated from Franklin
and Marshall College in 1970. With a degree in government. He
became a special agent with the United States Secret Service.
There you go. So he's the head guy. Yeah, he is the Director of
the Office of criminal enforcement. Hey, go to they're
gonna have a real user friendly site to be taken to numbers.
oversaw the EPA is criminal investigations and
forensics. All law enforcement people look at them.
Yeah. What's this got to do with recovery? Why are we having
economists?
None of them is an economist. They're all Treasury Inspector
General
of Homeland Security is one of them. The Inspector General
Department, the agriculture Fung. What's that got to do with
recovery? I don't know
necessarily. Check out the honourable
inspector general's. These are all cop basically cops.
This guy Russell George. He was nominated by George W. Bush to
the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration. Prior to
this role, Mr. George serves as the inspector general the
Corporation for National and Community Service. Oh my
goodness Mary michalson She looks kind of like Esther Dyson
all Is this my John Markoff
and then Mary l Kendall, who could be hot if she had a
different hairdo and a big rag
Wow shell sir Nick is to stay
she's also an attorney. For federal it's all law
enforcement. That's really weird.
That's totally weird. Why is recovery.or bits are supposed to
tell you Oh, God God, God God, I'm sorry.org is probably a
better one, which is somebody else tells me suppose check it
out. The board What's your head? It's this is fishy. Now you got
8 million bucks going in now with the money so you always
need 18 million bucks for all the law enforcement that's going
to be going on so anyone who goes to recovery.gov and looks
up something they're gonna be tracked like a dog.
Fuck yeah. Hey, at least they're being transparent
Yeah, the guys are there at least they don't have mysterious
board members.
So hello, news organisations, mainstream media would you mind
for just a minute focusing on this and looking at the
ridiculous you know, there is infrastructure you don't need
new internet. Why does this site have to be so secure? You know,
it doesn't it
just gives you an information site. It's a brochure look at
all
the links at the bottom John What is this usa.gov Go beer no
usa.gov USA spending.gov grants.gov Fed Biz
ops.gov gov loans.gov benefits.gov without
spending
a million dollars in logo design. What the hell is this
though this grants.gov logo this thing cost money that's not a
cheap logo. Government loans.gov that the nice logo to that cost
me I can set you believe me? I can see a logo that costs money.
It wasn't done by something by one of the members of the
committee
can we get a grant let's go to grants.gov Can we get a good
should
we get a grant maybe it'll delegates to shut up
we will go away if you give us enough money find apply seed
grants.gov is your source to find and apply for federal
government grants
bullshit about you're exiting this website you're exiting the
website? I hate that guy. No, I'm actually going to website
that's the way the web works you idiots
keyword search Okay, let's say keyword search should be what's
our search
money Search Grants grants either way this site this looks
like it was done by one of these agents one of these companies
Oh,
I put it in grants it comes up with Did you mean grantees? No
results found please rephrase your query?
No. results found for grants@grants.gov
Let me try. Conspiracy hold on can conspiracy let's see if that
comes up with anything. Conspiracy. Oh geez. Oh my
goodness.
Why don't you Google the Georgia you know, I'm
looking at the Grand site we can get an opportunity to title lib,
Liberia civil society and media project community prevention of
mother to child transmission. Yeah, that's conspiracy. All
right. Empowering Pakistan. Water and Sanitation programme.
These are all part VLOOKUP under under conspiracy.
I don't get anything when I type in conspiracy.
While you're looking at the right place. Not an idea hit the
search thing at the top now here. No, no. I'm doing the
grant search. There's the link. Okay. Grants are JCF Basic
Search. And I put in conspiracy. I get all this whacked out crap.
Show you under key where you put conspiracy there. Yeah, under
the basic search. Wow. Okay. I'm looking at that. Wow,
Bangladesh, HIV AIDS follow on activity, local governance,
civil society partnership to improve capacity for service
delivery. This is some serious money out there that we should
be able to get.
Sure looks like it.
But this is all Nigeria.
Time saying later Nigeria, local governments civil society
partnerships to improve capacity for service delivery. Oh, here's
a letter. Here we go prepare for pandemic preparedness.
Where's this? What's page?
Hold on. I'll send you on page one still or two. I already went
further. I'll send you the link there it is the synopsis for the
grant opportunities detailed below. Eligible applicants
others okay to be eligible for the cooperative agreement under
this RFA and organisation must be a US based institution Baba
Baba. bla bla bla. Description The US aid is launching a
coordinated comprehensive programme designed to minimise
minimise the impact of specific newly emergent diseases of
animal origin, which pose a significant threat to human
health and development. The programme must be managed by the
US aid Avian and Pandemic Influenza unit. Part. US aid
will closely work with international host governments,
USG and private sector entities to coordinate activities and
ensure that US aid Who is this US aid?
That's an economic hitmen?
Is that accompany us aid?
I've seen an agency or so I don't know. It's a good
question. I mean, as far as I'll ever choose I every time I see
it, it's a fact that
it's the United State here it is us aid.gov. Oh, man. US aid from
the American people. This is money we're giving away the US
Agency for International Development.
Yeah, that's what it is that this is the this is the economic
hitmen that we've talked about in the past. That's what this
is. This is what is this web or I'm looking@usa.com. It's fine.
Let's move on. You know why why the government doesn't grab
these ancillary. What is yours sites by the word are crappy.
You know what, these are? $18 million websites. John. This is
not just any old site.
It's unbelievable. The US Agency for
International Development is an independent agency independent
that provides economic ties shed development and humanitarian
assistance around the world in support of the foreign policy
goals of the United States. Okay, yeah, yeah, economic
hitmen? There you go.
Yeah. Which is fine. We have the you know, our foreign policy
that we we are I don't have a problem with
a record of accomplishment. More than 3 million lives saved or
created every year. So US. The US aid organisations are way,
way way. I made that up. I made it. I made it. But it does say
more than 3 million lives are saved every year through US aid
immunisation programme programmes, ie farmer testing
80,000 people and $1 billion in the US and Filipino assets were
saved due to early warning equipment installed by US aid
that war that that warned that the Mount Pinatubo volcano was
about to erupt in 1991. Huh.
That's it. Oral rehydration and best way to come up with
oral rehydration therapy. A low cost and easily administered
solution developed through USAID programmes in Bangladesh is
created is credited with saving 10s of millions of lives around
the globe. Now give you some oral hydration come over here.
Oh, hydrate Yeah. All right, let's, let's move off of this
because it's just driving me nuts.
Yeah. Alright, so how are we doing for time on this?
I think we we got like 10 more minutes, and then we're done.
All right. Well, there's an interesting story that cropped
up about how apparently the bush surveillance programme went way
beyond the Fourth Amendment. They've killed it, you know,
everybody's upset now blaming Cheney. He was doing a deal with
the CIA and the CIA was told to stop this programme to steal a
secret. We don't know what it was about. And apparently, of
course, according to reports, the CIA had no objection to
stopping it, because they probably felt that they had to
kitten a ringer, if this, you know, any information got about
what they were actually doing domestically, I'm guessing. Now.
So the question on my mind is when do they indict somebody
from the Bush administration?
They won't.
Why that sounds to me as though they violated all kinds of laws.
There are laws against doing a lot of the stuff they were
doing. It's it's against the law. I mean, isn't that we're a
nation of laws under laws. I mean, they they must be you
know, they had some case my wife was pointing out to me, some
woman in Alameda, some kid had carved her name or George just
took a felt tip pen and wrote I love Joey or something on the
bench on on the bench at the AC Transit bench. And a cop picked
her up and arrested her for terrorism and all kinds of weird
because they didn't couldn't read her writing and they
thought it may be a threat. And the Guam is going through the
whole, you know, a system of the justice system for for
scribbling when in the olden days, of course, she would have
made it clean it up and sent her home. I mean, they're doing that
but meanwhile, people violating the Fourth Amendment breaking US
Code laws left and right and there's nothing Nope, nothing.
Okay, so wanted to get that straight.
We would be remiss if we did not mention and this is a Bloomberg
report. There's other sources with with better pictures and
the Bloomberg report. I'll put those in the show notes, of
course, no agenda.me veoh.com No. agenda@squarespace.com the
$18 million value we received from Squarespace Russian
President Dmitry Medvedev illustrated his call for a
supranational currency to replace the dollar by pulling
from his pocket a sample coin of a United Future world currency.
Here it is Medvedev, Jeff told reporters today in L'Aquila,
Italy, after summit of the group of eight nations, you can see it
and touch it. The coin, which bears the words, unity in
diversity. Isn't that directly from 1984? John? Isn't that
actually just isn't that Chris? Isn't that
maybe it was maybe the coins a joke?
Hold on unity in diversity? 1984 I think I read that in the book.
It could be but I mean, there's something like it in the book,
that's for sure. That question on my mind is the game one of
these coins to every one of the members of the G 20? I guess,
yeah. Or the g8 or whoever the hell was meeting whatever the
whatever World Government was trying to
Oh, no, it's called No, no. In Orwell, the double think was
diversity is unity. It was exactly the other way around.
That's what Orwell wrote. Diversity is unity. This is what
Unity in Diversity is indoor, well, he's clothing.
Do they do this and get away with it? And not one media
outlet picks it up?
You know, you're sitting there in the sauna, right where their
fat bellies and their dicks hanging down laughing about this
shit. You know? They're just like, Oh, man. Good job. Jeff.
You are funny. You make funny.
This is a good one. Let's see if anyone picks up on this little
joke. Ah, that's pathetic. All right. Well, I'm sure our
listeners will get a kick out of in fact, if our listeners do get
a kick out of it, we wouldn't mind getting a kickback from
them. Yes. We do have a number of of high roller financier's
producers that I want to mention from last week. $50 and $100
donors. Malcolm Blair 50 Martin fast Sue 100 Christopher mommy
50 grand in row rolls. R O W E ll s $50.02. You want to give
his two cents worth
$2.02 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.
Kevin. Kevin Webb. 100. Thank you, Kevin. Isla. Ash it. A
shout out man. Ash show a shot. Uh, Should I shut down? That's
it. I should know a s h a d Aw, a Asha Dolly. That's gotta be
it. And it's Isla I YL a gave us I'm sure she's in some actually
didn't look up her country. I should. Because I like to do
that. I keep forgetting. She gave us $133.50 which I assume
is probably a you know something?
What's the what's the amount again? 133 50 Oh, that's got to
be a house resolution. Oh, I
could be like
350 Oops.
Daniel horrible. $50 Gryphon Meineke I just love the name
Meineke ageing Meineke to the
minute. Yeah. HR mustard, HR 13 350s. That was it. 13350
Yeah. A bill to authorise appropriations to the Energy
Research and Development Administration in accordance
with section 216 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954. Now, I think
it's a stretch John, I don't think that's
a stretch anyway. Gryphon Meineke gave us 60 Oh, nice.
Mike. We like the 60 Mike Potter gave us 50. And then the our big
contributor this week was Jeff Wolfers Wol f e r s, and he gave
us a whopping $250. And I appreciate that.
Thank you very much,
Jeff. Just like us on the air for another week,
a whole nother week. You know what I'm doing though, I'm going
to take some of some of my portion of the donations and I'm
going to buy more gold. Ya know, now that this, this diversity
and unity coin has come out, you've got to expect people to
move towards gold. So I think that's going to be very
important. And I'm also going to purchase at least six months
worth of storable food, because I think we're getting within a
year or two of something happening. Yeah, I have a
better solution for that was that if you ever been in the
mailing list business, you would appreciate this. Well, you know
the Mormons, but I think their religion requires them to store
it within their basements, a year's worth of food. And so
what you want to do is you want to rent the mailing list for
something and just rent the Mormon list, and then find where
all the local Mormons are and then then loot them.
Oh, okay, and loot them. The opinions of John C. Dvorak are
not necessarily the opinions of all of the hosts have no agenda.
No, I'm gonna buy some storable food and keep it for myself. It
was funny, Miki bought a, she went to the red which is right
on the corner of the corner from us. She went to the Red Cross
office and she bought a survival kit. She said you know we should
probably have one of these and and she said after the fact that
I should have bought one for 36 people but she bought the one
for two people because it's two of us, right? So I'm looking at
this survival kit and when I'm back in San Fran I get back
Monday so the show on Thursday, I will actually go through the
contents of this Red Cross survival pack because it will do
anything but help us survive the funniest thing though. It's a
survival pack for two people. It includes only one face mask. I
mean, yeah, well that's the way it is. What is the best child
did
you put yours on first?
It was the two people it was people twice as much food. It
was for two people Then shouldn't you have to face masks
in there? I mean come on. What's the what's the message? Well,
I'm sorry one is gotta go.
Anyway I want to buy food forget to mention the square no
agenda.squarespace.com to donate or divorce.org/na to donate no
agenda that squarespace.com or divorce.org/and a you don't want
to work by the way somebody sent me a note on the chat room
saying that united in diversity is the official model of the EU
really well that's what he said we had to look it up but what he
said
was so that would be edu dot i n t i think is not what it was.
What is it to be you website let's look at that. That could
be but then why is the nature then why is it more pathetic but
hold on the Russian guy is not a member of the EU. Is he is
Russia a member of the EU?
No, no of course not.
So let's look at Where's English e n gateway to the European
Union. I don't see I don't see
it. Let's just type in the United in diversity and then EU
and to Google and see what comes up.
Okay. Yes, fastest united in the is it? No, it's unity and
diversity. Hold on.
Well, he said what Yeah, that could be the what's on the coin
but united apparently is what's in the EU in the EU. Let me
look. You look at United lands moto united in diversity
delegation of the European Union as the model of the European
Union first came into use around the year 2000 was the first time
officially mentioned so and so on and so on. So yep.
Okay, so then why is the Russian guys showing this? What's up?
You said that unity in diversity is different. Yeah. Okay. Well,
in other words, they got suckered into using a variation
of the EU motto just to give it to us, one of those needling us
and then what else we can pull on these Boneheads.
And then I would like to finally wind up my portion of the show
with a story from Central Gitmo nation east from the Netherlands
which I will be leaving very soon. The Minister of Justice
the justice minister, and Tish, Berlin has said that well now
that of course we have the legal right to keep all internet
activity for half a year we have all of you We All your base are
belong to us. We have your emails, your SMS is we are now
going to set up automatic alerts. So as an example, if
someone travels to a country frequented by paedophiles that
will be an alert and they will be stopped and questioned.
For your trip to the Philippines.
I mean, come on. They're profiling. They're doing
profiling, and they're literally calling it profiling. Oh, that's
what they're doing. It's bank records, internet records,
travel records. Ah, gotta get the hell out of here. Hey, John,
how long do you predict this show will be on the air? I mean,
really? Well, if
people keep giving us money, we'll be on the air for years.
But I'll tell you this much. There's a there's a couple of
things. We still need to talk about the bees,
or will we ever really do that? Yeah, we will
the bees in the bats. And what's the fungus killing these bats
all over the place? That's not good. And also I'm going to
teach this for the Thursday show because we had to do it on
Thursday. Your food experience at a raw food restaurant?
Yes. So until that time coming to you from an undisclosed 17th
century canal house crackpot command centre in Gitmo nation
East smack in the middle of it. I'm Adam curry.
And don't forget to go to No agenda.squarespace.com Or to
vorak.org/in A. I'm in the Pacific Northwest. John C.
Dvorak.
We will talk to you again on Thursday right here on no
agenda.