podcasting 2.0 February 4 2020 to Episode 72 We're hitting the
apex
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Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave Jones. Apex is a squishy term.
You can loosely define an apex, I blew the the apex of what do
you understand of hitting the apex?
Hitting the apex would be like when you're in a race car going
around the turn? Yes, perfect. It's the perfect line. Chris
That's it. That's it. That's it. When I did the
show was it was the Indy 500 celebrity race. When you're in
Indy 500 card
well, actually back when I was at MTV, because you could be
everything back in the day.
They had that they had some promotion with Chevy and
remember the Chevy geo was that car still around the Chevy Geo?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah little compact car. And and so the idea was to have
celebrities music celebrities race on the actual circuit was
in Denver that year on the street circuit before Indy did
their official race. So we we trained for like three days in
Arizona with Bob bond Durand, and you know, did all the but it
was weird. You know, like guys from white lion guys from poison
lion.
Oh, what was that saw with the children cry? Well, yes, I think
that's it. Yeah, I think that's it.
Yeah. Johnny Gill. You know, there's a blast from the past.
Yeah.
Yeah, very good. Dave. Got us. Yes. Got your band chops coming
through right now? Oh, yeah. Bad belting it out. Yes.
Anyway, so
also in the race was Donny Osmond. And yeah, wait for it.
So hurry, hurry. That was it. No.
It was well timed. I admit. Our lion iKOU. One that year for the
second year in a row. As a Dutchman, I know him and so I
was, you know, I was more in the pits and I could do a lot more
stuff than then you typically think but also, I went out with
Ari at night to walk the track. He said, Okay, watch us when you
want to hit the apex. And as we're walking, you know, who we
see on the track that at night like dusk, Donnie awesome. Oh,
he's walking the track. And he won. He won by a mile. Donnie
Ozma. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He was a great driver. He was so
serious to.
Some people just have. So my, my wife is an artist. And she she
would it would be the term be not shutters she she bristles?
Yes. Okay, she bristles at the phrase.
Oh, you're so talented.
She hates that. Because it makes art seem like it is just
something that you're born with and that you didn't have to like
work. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.
And so. But that being said, there are some things in life
that are like born into a person and I think race, some pet
somebody at the top of the race car game at the racing game.
There's you, you can go you can get skill level up to this
certain point. And then there has to be this, this thing that
jumps you over that line this and it's like, a complete
recklessness, that you don't care about your own the safety
of your own body. There's something Yes. Yeah, well, Donny
Osmond man, he he was he was relentless. I was very nice guy
to really nice guy.
That's I mean, like, AC he's not dead.
Though he better not be.
Let's double check.
He's one of those guys. I don't I can't remember their age. Like
I never know how old they are. Let me see. I'm pretty sure he's
still he's still with us. I hope so.
Let's Oh, he's born in 57 For now, okay. All right.
Do you remember any hit by the Osmond brothers?
It's it's gonna be you're not old enough. I don't think you're
old. No
No, no, no, it's it was I was probably like in the single
digits. When? Right Well, no, I was I wasn't much further behind
or ahead I should say let me see this was at the time. Yeah, I'm
of course. Are you kidding me? I'm gonna give you I'm gonna hit
you right now brother. Here we go.
This is a hit from Adams youth
This is not sounding familiar
bah bah bah Dum Dum Dum Dum Dum. Yeah, baby. Here's the Osmond
brothers got crazy. Oh says
No.
None bring it back.
No, no, no, I'm not. I don't know. I got nothing on that. All
right. It's a step above Bucks Fizz, really? But I was
listening to the extreme or more than words on the way home.
Yeah, but but but.
But the second album that extreme to lay. That was the
that was the better?
Because that was the day of a hit off of that. Oh, yeah. They
stopped the world. Oh, yeah. Yep. All right, everybody. So
much for your Oh, two old dudes talk about music from the 70s
and 80s. That's a podcast concept we've been working on
for quite a while. I have all albums. What it makes me sad
though. Because when I see these guys that you have, I remember
them as youthful and like, you know the stuff and then you see
him now that you're on a reunion tour something I'm like, oh, oh,
no. That means I look like that. Yeah, this some people might
have had that realization with this recent Spotify frock us
with Neil Young and people going like Neil Young Joni Mitchell.
Mm hmm.
Do we want to talk about that? Do we want to delve into it?
Because No, the only is for just a little bit. I have some things
to say. But go ahead. Well, I have some clips. Let's do clips.
Yes. They have nothing to do with with Ambani I don't know
what you guess I'm just interested in in Spotify, his
position what they're doing in general.
And I'm more interested in the in the sociology of it. Because
not, you know, I'm tired of the whole freedom of speech thing.
I feel like we solve that issue. I'm not I'm just kind of not
interested in that thing really anymore.
But, so I tried to be all week whenever I would hear somebody
say, let's talk about Dino. Because I was listening to you
were on Tom Woods yesterday, I was listening or day before and
I was listening to your interview. And Tom said, I want
to get your opinion on Joe Rogan I click turned it off. I'm like,
I don't I don't want anybody else's opinion on what I tried
to stay away from that. I'll wait and so I can formulate my
own thoughts. Oh, good. And then I can still give you my opinion
that they'll say when I gave on Tom woods and it'll be fresh.
It'll be fresh and fresh opinion. Juicy. Okay, first out
of the basket, give me give me someone sent me something from
your oven Devi.
I think really and truly,
I think that this really all boils down to. Okay, so I think
my angle on this is that I think Rogen and Whoopi Goldberg
are sort of the same. They're playing the same script. I feel
like they're going, I feel like okay, how would I say this
Whoopi Goldberg currently with what happened to her this past
week. And those are my clip my clips are Whoopi.
Okay.
I feel like she's at Rogen, stage one.
So there is if
Rogan went through like this, he's like phase one is just
uncharitable coverage by the media. So they were you know,
saying,
like he he didn't want to take the vaccine that was a sport,
you know, personal thing. He said, If you want to do that, he
felt like if you're young and healthy, you didn't need to take
the vaccine.
So then they triggered that just triggered the hell out of
everybody. And so they started coming, you know, all these
unfavorable things, you know, hey, you know, how, how dare he,
you know, blah, blah, blah. And he's not even healthy. You know,
people were showing pictures of him that made him look like a
fad. And
then, then he got COVID.
And, and used me and all that stuff, one of which was
ivermectin.
Then, in the in the mainstream, specifically, CNN started sort
of lying and saying that he was taking veterinary medicine and
all this kind of jazz. I feel like that his demo falls
to the point where then he himself
was going through, he sort of went into the second phase or
the media went into the second stage with him, which was
ostracizing and isolate, like isolating him trying to trying
to build a wall around him as if he's so easy out on an island by
himself. It pissed him off so much. He started having Sanjay
Gupta on and
and all they and then this that led to then, you know, CNN went
after him again saying that Gupta said he was scared for his
life and all this kind of stuff on the show. And he's afraid
he's going to come over the desk and hit him and all this kind of
jazz. Well then, so he goes after that whole ivermectin
deal. Rogan just went into full blown. I'm gonna have as many
opposing views on the show as I can. I'm gonna go Robert Malone,
Macola. Around Barrett's and Nick
copia core, he just went through this, like this laundry list of
anti
sort of anti establishment scientific thinkers. Which
makalah is not and by the way, he's he's way he's not Yeah, are
opposing views, I guess about MC,
se. I feel like this progress, I tried to just lay out and think
through the progression of how we got from the beginning, which
was a guy like Rogan is a he's a liberal guy, he endorsed Bernie
Sanders for President a socialist.
And how did we he had the media go from that to just to complete
discard needs to be cancelled? Whenever you're ready.
I think so. My thought was
that did it's a it's a, it's a marriage between? Well, they
take him through these stages. And then he responds, because
they're not allowing him to just have a difference of opinion.
They are being uncharitable in their, in their response to what
he says.
And I'm hoping to show a similar thing going on with Whoopi, but
I think that as you isolate someone more and more, they
begin to respond in kind. And the only way they know how to
which is trying to defend themselves. I feel like you're
sure I think that's correct. Like they they have in the media
is very good at this, they lead people into almost a trap. But
they lead people into saying things and doing things that
they can then capitalize on. So the only thing you're absolutely
right, the thing you've missed is why
yes. Maybe I'll give you the why now and then you can show us how
this is going to work with Whoopi Goldberg. Okay. The it
took me a while to figure it out. But all I had to do was go
back into the timeline and look at the history. When Rogan Rogan
was always a problem when he when he started to make $100
million. Then from time to time the mainstream news cable news,
but mainstream would make a joke about oh, this podcaster Oh,
he's a misogynist. Oh, he's a racist, you know that that's it
wasn't much more than that the extent was kind of, then he had
Abigail Schreier, on who wrote a book, which countered the
narrative of transgender children, which had been passed
up by many podcasters, including Adam Carolla. Then he became a
transphobes. Then the woke crowd was activated, particularly at
Spotify, because they have a trans community there and so
that they had problems that's still all within the purview,
what the company is going to do with Rogan, etc. But his problem
started, as you correctly identify, when he started
convincing people just because of his audience size, he's going
to convince more than the mainstream and certainly the
mainstream cable news to not buy the products that the mainstream
pharmaceutical companies are selling. And they are the
biggest advertiser on television, certainly one of the
big ones for cable news, and they activated their stooges and
that's when all of that that's because CNN was so obvious when
they started saying Rogan's eating horse dewormers he was
lying. And Sanjay Gupta. That's why Rogen had him come in what
what are you doing and Rogue? Sanjay Gupta from CNN, the
doctor could not answer that question why they were lying.
But it unless Joe stops talking about pharmaceutical products
that compete with Big Pharma or not using them kissed problems
will continue. These companies do not give a shit. They will
kill people over this. They're doing 100 billion dollars a year
in revenue. They don't care what they have to do that
What took place here?
That? I don't I don't just I don't deny that at all. I don't
deny that the pharmaceutical influence in the mainstream
media had has a definite definite impact on this.
It's add to that add to that day. They cannot understand why
Joe Rogan has 11 million people in his audience, whether that's
a true number or not, doesn't matter. The perception is there
that they can't believe they have. They have. CNN has an
average of 700,000. at every given moment. No one has those
numbers. This is this. They really want him to go away. He's
a he's an embarrassment to the mainstream. He's an idiot. He
even admits it. He's a moron. He can't he all he does is talk.
He's not he just wings it.
This is this is the complaints the mainstream has. So that's a
perfect storm.
Yeah, well, that's see what bothers me, I guess is that
that's that's the case now. But what what the what was it at
the, you know, the beginning, I think that I forgot about the
Abigail Schreier thing. And this, this, that was really the
that was really the beginning. I do think you're right. Yeah, I
think that was the beginning. And that, that is the part where
I feel that's what I meant when I said, Okay, what B is it,
Rogen, stage one, I think it's instructive. If you find
somebody who's in a parent, who's in sort of a parallel
stage, that you can then look and see, oh, this is how it
begins.
Because what he is not at the point, at this later stage that
Rogan, the cancel stage that Rogan is now she's still at the
be at the beginning. Now she tried as hard as she could to
get herself cancelled with me, like the. So I'll say what play.
And I'll miss set this up by saying that
I think Whoopi,
she,
she, it's interesting to me that she got cancelled because of her
appearance on CO bear, not for the thing that she said
initially, like, that's what got her suspended was the Colbert
interview, not the original thing that she did. And she
said, on the view, or whatever it was, and, and this would be
called bear clip one that is sort of the beginning of the, of
what actually got her cancelled.
Because I've I feel being black. When we talk about race, it's a
very different thing to me. So I said that I felt that the
Holocaust wasn't about race.
And people got very, very, very angry and still are angry. I
mean, I'm getting, you know, all of these, the mail from folks
and the very real anger, because people feel very differently.
But I thought it was a salient discussion. Because as a black
person, I think of race as being something that I can see. So I
see you, and I know what race you are. And
believe me, black people are going will be shut up.
So it's really clear what she's saying, if you look at her
statement charitably. And this is kind of what I'm trying to
get at with this whole thing. And what I've been thinking
about this week is, This all begins with it with with taking
somebody
taking somebody's words, uncharitably as if they are
something
bad, negative.
Gross, you're, you're you're putting them in, you're putting
them in a box of negativity. And as soon as you do that, it
creates this schism. And so in this case, it's really obvious
what the issue is with, with with with Whoopi and what she's
saying. She, she cannot divorce her mind of the idea that race
is synonymous with skin color. And she even says it multiple
times. That really is the issues you have, but you got this.
There's more at play here. Dave. There is a very, very, very long
standing unspoken feud between a DOS let's just say black
Americans, Americans, descendants of slavery and
Jewish Americans,
particularly in show business. You will never hear Hotep Jesus,
because I've talked to him about this ever criticize anyone who's
Jewish because he knows that's the end of his career.
We'll see that's that's in there. Again, I don't I don't
know. But I do. And I'm saying this as as much about the people
who canceled as it does
About the canceled. Yeah. Well, what I was gonna say, though, is
I don't? I don't? I don't I think this transcends the reason
why, like this is that this isn't the Y factor that I'm
talking about this is the this is the mechanism, not, not the Y
that causes the mechanism to be employed the mechanism, because
you can, you can see, the play
would be called bear to you'll see what I'm saying because she,
she, she is genuinely confused about what is about the problem
here. You know, I don't want to fake apologize, you know, I was
I very upset that people are misunderstood what I was saying.
And so because of it, they're saying that I'm anti semitic,
and that I'm denying the Holocaust and all these other
things, which, you know, would never occurred to me to do. And
I was talking to our friend the woke Jewish school teacher
public school in Austin, the one who the dog bit because our dog
only bites woke people. And I was talking to her about this.
And I said, you know, Allison has got to know, it's really
only been maybe four or five years that I myself. And I've
worked with many Jews
understood that they do not consider themselves to be white.
And Dvorak, even a few years ago, I was like, I was talking
to her what she says, No, I'm not white. I'm a Jew. Yeah, this
is also not a known things. I think she got totally screwed by
this. I totally agree. Yeah, but it's yeah, it's really subtle.
It Yes, she got sideswiped. It's really ignorance of a lot of
people. Certainly the outraged public. They really, you know,
whenever you get to the Nazi thing, it's game over, people's
eyes roll up in their head, and they can't think straight. I
thought this was in, you can, you can just, you know, pop me
upside the head for reading a YouTube comment.
Ever. But I thought this was a really, this was a really good,
I thought was very succinct.
This person said Whoopi Goldberg understands racism from an
American perspective, particularly as an American
black woman, that understanding and experience of racism is
wrapped up with the experience of living in America,
experiencing racism in America, and the history of racism in
America. And because she is so centered on that particular
understanding, she doesn't understand how racism manifests
in other places. How does experience but other people and
how the histories and cultures of other countries have shaped
racism in those places? I think that's right. It was simply Yes,
it is. Absolutely. It is. Absolutely right. And, and since
we're on it, I'm not going to play the clip. But I dove into
this pretty deep.
They they think the comparison of how Jews in Germany were
treated, versus how unvaccinated are being treated in many
countries. They think that is an outrageous comparison. So again,
it just shows the complete ignorance. I grew up in
Amsterdam. So I was fortunate I got a real education in the
Holocaust. My friend's grandparents had numbers in
their arms. You know, so I heard some stories. And it's just
ignorance. And the whole thing is that the whole thing is now
just centered around woke left, right, Twitter's the same thing.
This is just remnants of, of stuff that keeps people busy
and, and keeps podcasts filled,
unfortunately. And that's really what I kind of wanted to get at
was that by comparing these two things, these are
two people that seemingly were targeted, meaning I don't know
what the right word is to use. It's not the right word I want
to use but seemingly, they triggered the hell out of
people. And the mechanism is that they, they now feel
ostracized, and confused. You can listen to that Instagram
video of Rogan. And I mean, there's sort of a genuine
confusion there of like, I don't I just don't understand why.
Yes, because he's freaking out on me.
Because we live in a culture where we are taught that if you
have a problem, there's a middle manager you can go to and
complain and they'll take care of it for you. I don't like what
he said me and Spotify, take care of it. I my neighbor's
music is too loud. I'm calling the cops.
This is this is the the world we live in. Now. Luckily.
We came at the right time. Dave Jones. I think you and I are
geniuses. I don't disagree. Holy crap, a doli. This is
unbelievable that we
started this project in time for this tsunami of bullcrap.
And
I'm really proud of the work that everybody has done when I
can go on Tom woods. And I was I think I was able to what did you
think of my, tell me what plot podcasting. 2.0 is, as a seven
year old, thought it was JT I think you owned the the role of
like explainer in that, that maybe you You seem to have honed
your, your, your, your message that really that was the first
time I thought it was real, like 16 Thank you, because I worked
on this and and be and it was because this very intellectual
man much more intellectual than I am. Asked me to explain
podcasting 2.0 As if he was a seven year old, which is
typically a question I block someone if they say that.
It's like, Get out of here. This is so this like play like I'm
five thing? Yes, exactly. Explain like, I'm fine playing.
So when I told him that, and I said but and so I said if I was
going to tell a seven year old, which may be the the literacy
level of many.
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That was I mean, you you hit every everything. You hit every
highlight and you didn't get to, like you didn't get technical.
You didn't say it doesn't bow by doing this or blah blah, blah,
you just right. This is it. This is it. Right? Yeah. And then and
so when I do that, I think Holy crap. Could everybody please
stop what they're doing just for a second? And pat yourself on
the back? Yeah, look at what we have accomplished. And not you
and I Dave but the whole podcasting 2.0 movement.
Unfortunately, you have to code it all. But that's just a
secondary thing.
minor, minor, minor minor point of privilege. Yeah, but that
I've noticed the other people, other people are now starting to
code more, which is really great to see. Yep. And we're seeing
I'm seeing the uptake.
Every day, there's another conversation about de Plata and
Spotify really did take a lot of I don't they they did not go and
take down individual episodes except to Rogan, I think they
just took another 50 or so down. That were recently Yeah, today
that we're in this oh, you know, they're cleaning house because
there's always pirated feeds have no agenda on Spotify. And
we've we've threatened legal action, you know, Dick's
when they first launched, we were on there, and I and I went
through the whole copyright claim bull crap. And I said,
Look, I'm getting really tired of me having to tell you to stop
stealing my shit. I'm gonna I'm gonna do something about this.
And then they woke up, they took it away. Someone else put it up.
I had many reports of people getting ads, so someone was
maybe even making money on it. And certainly Spotify
made baby yeah. And in two days ago, I got the Hey, man, your
podcast is gone from Spotify. So they are indeed deleting stuff.
And they certainly have by their standards reason to delete no
agenda. So I will let me jump in real quick and say I think
anchor we've been talking about anchor for a while now. And my
thesis has been that they don't care about anchor and put
probably rather see it go away. And I I think that this is
anchor as a liability for them. I don't see how they get
anything of Tell me.
One benefit they get from Anker. I think there were sold a bill
of goods. Maybe you know, we're just like clubhouse or whatever,
or you know, there's pre clubhouse but I don't know it's
crap. Do this piece of shit.
Every everybody knows it. But But, but Spotify is actively
taking down podcasts that they don't agree with.
And that's and that's all you need to know. And I love sam se
suggestion of calling Spotify and Apple legacy apps because
they are they are legacy apps.
Yeah, I think the this this kind of is funny to be in that
position where it was so important at the beginning to
try to decentralize things so that they were
be no, like, point of takedown or whatever. And now
as I just consider that assault problem, really, that's exactly
what That's Tom, the next thing Tom Woods said was, so what do I
do? I say, Well, this is the good thing we've already taken
care of number one for you get that free from us. You cannot be
taken down free. I said that it's free. It's already done,
you cannot be taken down. You are always available through any
of the apps that support podcast index,
which of course is subjective because it is not even. Go
ahead. Yeah. I was gonna say is that part is not even the API
because the API. If I tried to just conceptually do that, I
think you did this conceptually better than I did. I have been
able to, I tried to split the difference between the index and
the API, because they're not the same. Because you can say, well,
well, you didn't, you know, you didn't change anything. Now, the
podcast index.org. That's that the API is just a single point
of failure. Yeah, but the index is not correct you you can
download the index. Yep. And just run it yourself. Or you can
just put a little listener on pod ping. And just get the whole
index eventually for free. Yeah, just just record what comes
through. Yeah, this is what I love about pod pig. It's gene
It's a monster. Yeah. I like
Chris Fisher's district description of it.
Is a distributed message bus of podcasting. Yeah, which which
Brian of London I wouldn't take it too far. You have not created
a great messaging system because it's not a great messaging
system is not it's it's very good at what it does. And the
capabilities of pod ping are astronomical, but not as a
messaging system. And Brian was mad at me dude. Y'all did all
the all the hype. People were pissed at me. Yes. Oh, my God, I
made it. Alright, put my foot in my mouth. Kind of what show? No
on Twitter? Oh, would you cast a cast? Oh, s castaways. custos
castaways, I forget this Casa dos costos they announced that
they're doing value value blocks in their in their interface in
their feed. And so I go on Twitter Holy crap. Look at this
value for value Baba, first one's ever and I immediately get
this whole hive of hate. Hate to hate three speakers before this.
Switch. I said
your rights and apologies. I really apologize. But you know,
there's only one guy from hi from floats around. Our
university seems to be doing everything he represents all of
hide. Where's everybody else helping me remember what to say?
Oh, by the way, where's all the shit coin developers eath.
Another another
another thing to tell to toss into? That is? Yeah, three
speak? Sure. Sure. Yes, they were the first but they're not a
podcast host go see. But I wasn't even going to get into
that. I thought it was in general. I felt dudes, if you
want to utilize me fucked up way to go about it.
Yeah, I mean, that was good. On my good side. Yeah. I mean, you
know, and I said, Hey, you know, and you know, someone's like,
who is a Bitcoin Maxy. So he doesn't give a shit about that.
And so I'm like, okay, look, we can live side by side. And we
can live side by side. And this. No problem whatsoever. This is
about podcasting. I don't care how people use it or what they
use. I'm happy that they using it. I'm very proud of the work
that Brian London and Alice gates have done and a cast of
1000s. But come on, chill out a little bit. If you want me to
promote something, this is not the way to do it.
I forked this debate and Satoshi stream repo repos, forked those
over into the podcast index, GitHub organization. I've been
meaning to do that for a while. So Toshi st here, Satoshi
stream. Well, I mean, it's not I don't think it's not their
source code, but it's the TLV register. Oh, yes. The one that
is the BIP blip. Yeah, yet. There's little blip, blip, blip
blip 10
So that has been on my to do list I've been trying to go back
and get some of these things done that I've been not able to
do.
So people can find all the jingles and all that because Oh
good. Yeah, that's a good idea. That's a good idea now but you
forked it so that means I have to change my link. No, no, no, I
mean, the old ones still still work. I just it's now just
there's a copy that in our org that tracks the tracks that repo
so everything you don't change anything. Okay, so is that how
GitHub works? But when you fork does not then you're you've
separated right doesn't get the updates from the original.
Well, yeah, it does. It went to when I
I just had to go in there updated periodically. I'll just
pull fresh. Okay, okay. Okay, good. Oh, that's good. It's an
alias. Yeah, it is.
Yeah, but I'm trying to catch up on some of this stuff like
Benjamin Bellamy's booster grant MiCon
pansy that No, I did not see a booster gram icon where it was
this podcast. Fantastic. Yeah, it looks fantastic. It looks
like a
it looks like a comic.
Like word balloon. But but with the lightning bolt as the
integral part of it.
It's hard to explain awesome I'm looking at is
see this green icon? Let's see if the oh, there it is. And you
search on the podcast index social search just search for
booster gram icon. It's like the first thing that pops up.
And it looks really slick. I don't know how to get this into
stuff though.
But I don't
give on it. No booster gram icon.
Let me
let me signal it's weird. I'll maybe if I load more. Hold on a
second. I got a lot of booster gram stuff. Yeah. No, see. I
made that September 21. Man.
Booster gram.
telling it to you. Oh, I've been requested to mention from the
progenitor of booster gram. That it is indeed booster gram. It is
BOSTAG ra M No hyphens?
That's right. Yes. No hyphens in booster and it's also not
booster gram. No, it's not booster gram either. No.
Well, this is interesting. Did you get it? Yeah, I'm looking at
it right now. I'm going to put it in the show notes. It's
pretty slick looking in it. This is from the font. This is from
the booster gram font. Yes. From the podcast font and it's got a
podcast font. That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it's
like a lightning bolt. But in the shape of a word balloon,
like a message like a booster. Yeah. That is I just thought
that was really cool. Which one to mention. I like it a lot. The
yellow throws me off, but that's just me. I have called one
widget. I think he tweaked that color for
fountain because it fits their color scheme. Okay, that's the I
don't think it's you can color it any way you want. Because
it's a font. Like a CSS, right? Okay.
I Bellamy man he's doing stuff. Have you tried out to cache the
pod yet?
Yeah, that's I built that. That sandbox feed for the this film's
workshop. Right, right. We haven't tried but you haven't
tried the import function yet? Which was the one reason we
weren't using it. Blog? Why don't we try it live? Let's do
it live.
Wow, walking on the tightrope, Dave Jones.
See? See, I guess. Because that was the main thing is we just
couldn't. I mean, it was nothing for me to configure. Anyway, now
that I've understood a little bit more thanks, Alex gates,
about the true nature of you know, obviously activity Pub is
a big part of, you know, the whole system. And that's not
gonna work simply
on the Umbral, you will have to punch holes in the firewall and
get some real IPS going, I guess, which, of course, is I
understand from a security standpoint, not a great idea if
you have your node on the same machine?
Well, I'm not. I'm not worried about it, either. But, you know,
I understand the Umbral has had some security issues in general,
that we just have to just you forget stuff, you know, like,
oh, yeah, this is great. And then you know, that's wide open.
Oops. Yeah. And that's it shut up. Put. That's a question.
Should I put a password on the on Hello pad?
And then just in case? Well, I'd rather I'd prefer to have it on
tour before that was the question.
I'd love I love just to access it outside the house.
Can you not? I don't think it runs over tour. I saw somebody
had it configured on tour because I saw somebody posted
some posted a screenshot of a pad and it had a tour address in
it.
Hmm, maybe that's just something they did. So yeah, I don't know
if you can. I think you have to configure that somehow.
Mm hmm.
I don't know.
Yeah, minor details, my friend. Thank you for the Excel export
on heli pad our booster gram monitoring system app, I say,
Oh, my goodness. Ah, that's a lot of fun. I got a lot of data.
I have four different shows. You know, I'd love that it has the,
you know, the actual them could only get like a percentage for
most of them just for monitoring purposes. But you can see the
total amount you can do charts and graphs and pivot tables.
It's really
fought Yeah, pivot table. Whoa, look at this shit. Oh man. It's
really exciting. It's exciting, man. It's really exciting. We
still have a lot of apps kind of sending data in a manky way. I
mean, usernames, people. Um, I guess people just kind of figure
that their name shows up if they're sending a message, which
it doesn't for many. Oh, yeah. Like if they're coming from
breeze especially breeze. Yeah, and fountain I think is
usernames.
Yeah. Fountain still allows the sub sub par level booster grams
to come through which is funny.
What do you mean? Like, like a low amount? Yeah, like once at
once a head? Yeah, cuz, you know, they've got a few of those
today. The the studio door is usually is open as it's on the
other side of the house, but I have the I have the Umbral sound
cranked up till we hit like pew pew like oh, okay, let's go
check. Six SATs.
Tim, Tim from Ellen pay Tim K from Ellen pay. Yeah, but the
emojis work. Thanks, Tim. Thanks. I came all the way over
here to see my winnings.
But I was delighted to hear James on pod land. Talk about
how you pitch value for value in your podcast, which is not pay
tip me. But you know the concept of value. I was very happy to
hear him do that.
And I have not listened to that on yesterday's show. Have you
seen Yes. Listen to the new one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and listen to
yet because if you if you say I want to tip you'll get 15% 20 be
20. To say value for value, you can get a very different result.
Yeah, I think that that's a
that's something that you also did on Tom Woods show, which I
think was really important is you went through the whole value
for value concept, because it's got, what I see a lot of people
doing is
they turn it on and say where's my money? Yeah, exactly. They
turn to enable, they enable value for value in the value
blog. And maybe they have even have an Umbral, or something
like that. And then they never actually tell their listeners
they have it or to go to new podcast apps.com. That's yeah,
that's all that's the minimum. Say, are you on a legacy app?
Well, if they cancel me, I won't be here. Would you like to know
when my show was updated right away instead of waiting three
hours for Apple to get off its ass? Maybe even 30 minutes? Who
cares? Speaking of speaking of putting
up so I've been Oh, I was working out with the gas from
blueberry. How to do pod paying for power press? Because, you
know, that's the issue there and cast cast us is going to have
the same issue. Because Castillo's has WordPress simple.
Yeah. The plugins like super simple podcasting, I think is
a thing. So seriously simple, seriously simple podcasting
plugin. And he was getting. So PowerPress is seriously simple.
allow you to have their to host your own podcast on your own
server, but then you just host it up up on casters or
blueberry. And so I was working out with the blueberry guys on
how on how to allow that is what we came up with. was in I talked
to Brian and Alex about this how to allow what Dave I'm sorry.
How to allow a
word random WordPress blog to hit pod ping to hit pod ping in
a safe way. Yeah, yes. in a safe way for us. You mean for us?
Yeah. So what I was thinking about is, you know, there's
really this is really not an issue of
it's not an issue.
Your only attack vector is a is a do is like some sort of denial
of service. Yeah.
You know, if somebody were to just get a key and hit you with,
like,
25,000 pod pings in three seconds. I don't know. Well, I
mean, the issue that having a key or not having a key doesn't
really stop that. The the authorization token for pod ping
is not really. I mean, that's weak security. I mean, it's the
same with the AP with our API. I mean, anyone can DDoS the API, I
guess, under the same circumstances. Yeah. I mean,
anybody can get a denial service attack is not going to be
stopped by an authorization No, you just don't want shit data
getting in? Yeah. So
and all. So what we came up with was
the DDoS, the DDoS thing can be is going to be solved at the IP
level. That's not good. That's not a broken. That's a
Cloudflare thing. Right? Yeah, exactly. So what we came up with
was just this idea of a
half token. So essentially, the authorization token for pod ping
is normally 44 characters long,
random.
So you get whatever 44 Today is the entropy. So then you have 44
characters there.
And then we will for the pot, or for the power press installs,
and other things that are like that with when they're going to
be distributed. We just have like a 22 character ash that
have like a prefix, the first half, but the token doesn't
change. And the second half is randomly generated. So then all
the power press, and seriously simple installs would use that,
that stable 22 character,
hash a 20 character hash, and then add on their own unique
random hash at the end of it for an additional 22. So that we
know this up there, this is a power press install. And then
because every one of them will also be unique. We'll know if
any one in particular goes nuts. Right. Okay. That's a good idea.
I was also thinking obviously, you know, it would seem an easy
way
that you can't hit the pod ping until you at least have
published on
blueberry or on costos.
You need to be published there first before you can get a key,
right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah, that would be
that'd be part of the thing. So then the install the plug in
itself would be would just generate it for you, you know,
generate that key for you. And they, you know, Angelo, and Todd
over there. Blueberry like, yeah, that sounds like it works.
I think they're working on that. Cool. Is it built yet? No. Yeah.
Work? That that's a big deal, because it's a huge deal. You
kidding me? That's another large chunk right there. That Oh,
yeah, that's a bunch.
The, those are 1000s of installs. They're now taken care
of from that again, and can hit pod pain.
Yeah. So anyway, that I love it felt good to solve that problem.
Now, that's a great problem. We've been waiting for this for
a long time.
And then that's just then and congratulations to cast those by
the way. I think that's, that's great. What they did. Yes, the
so they have you Did you see what they did? They just put the
field in there. You can just Yeah, value valuable? Yep. Yeah.
And an education. You know, that's what most hosting
companies are good at is educating. And if anyone ever
wants some help from me, I'd be happy to do anything you need in
your education process of your your customers, if I can help.
Now.
I noticed I think, I think it was Matt from CAST, as was what
had talked on Twitter. And Marco jumped in about, they're talking
about value for value. And he was saying that Marco was
mentioning that there would be a privacy issue with with any sort
of micro payments system. Privacy, we should know, I
think, no, I think his stance was differently. But okay. What
he what he was saying was any podcast app is going to use a
micro payment system to be always sending these payments to
the podcaster would be getting an API somewhere. Yeah, I
wouldn't know what would know what would know what you're
sending. Let me read you what he said. Today. People People often
asked me to integrate cryptocurrency podcast payment
systems into the app. Sorry, I currently have no plans, among
other reasons, including the risks and controversies inherent
to crypto. I simply prefer not to involve myself in how
podcasters make their money. That's pretty clear.
Yeah, I didn't see that part. But I thought so. I think that's
that's that's other issues. And then this one,
right? Yeah, that's really the definitive thing. Yeah, fine.
Um, yeah. I think that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. No, no problems
with that at all. Everybody makes their own decisions. But
this is what this is what I was referencing, he says, I haven't
looked too deeply. But most systems require the app to make
an API call somewhere when listing activity happens. So the
network can send micro payments accordingly. As you can imagine,
this raises privacy concerns. That's just simply not true. We
had that. That's it.
That's what I wanted to talk about is not, you know, hit his
decisions or his decision. And that's fine. And not, I'm not
really going to be in the business of trying to convince
anybody because I just don't want to do that. Other than
that, I would say, it's not just podcasters making money.
Everybody makes money, including podcast, app developers. That's
all yeah, there's the there's that Yeah, that's absolutely.
But that I did think it was worth the reason I brought it up
was because
lightning, normally that would be right. Normally, if you're
going through something like Stripe, or some sort of API line
that what he said is exactly right. And even if you're going
to ln pay, that's right. But the difference in the unique part of
lightning is that you don't have is that that doesn't have to be
true, because you can run a lightning node, and you can run
your own instance of LM pay. And then you create the wallets and
all the encrypted transactions
leave directly from your system, right? It's peer to peer and
everything is done with onion based encryption. So that
there's a this may be something that people don't know also,
when if I send somebody a payment through lightning, if my
notes into your note a payment and it has to go through four
other hops to get to you the intermediate hops the three
nodes in between that it had to go through to get to you
it cannot see anything about the payment they can't even tell
where it's from or where it's ultimately going to they only
know where they got it from where they're passing it off to.
Right They know Yeah, exactly. They know the one they got it
from and the next one in the chain they do not and they don't
even know if that's the final destination is the final
destination correct Yeah. So it that's that's the only reason I
brought it up is because you know I respect his decisions and
his his product but that specific thing with lightning it
that happens to be different you don't there's not the privacy
issue there that there normally would be with last drive or
something like that, man I just love showing the roundabout now
I was on awesome on the bit refill podcast this was
fantastic the bit refill podcast,
which is just a bunch of dudes
like 2028 2930 year olds one in Nigeria who was in a supermarket
it was really weird it was really cool um
yeah, I don't think I've ever heard of this podcast bit refill
I think it's I think it's sponsored by bit refill you know
the that's the thing that you can you can get
loyalty cards for Yeah, and so you know, they knew about
podcasting 2.0 But they really weren't set up yet with with
with value for value so let me show you so I did just because
they were on Zoom I did a screen share I brought up heli pad and
then I popped up another tab with I think a curio caster to
now watch and I said I showed the the booster gram that I sent
and then switch the tab and I forgot to turn up the the fader
for the for the PC. Oh yeah. The damn it was an impromptu demo.
You know, I'm refining it. And it was just so beautiful.
You know, like 15 seconds later. Oop, there it is. And they're
like ah, is this the to the moon podcast? No, it was called the
bit refill podcast a
bit refill, just bit refill us with it's got to be on the
index. Maybe it was just some dudes who were just catfishing
me I don't know
there was some it was really it was this kid on Twitter. He's
Dutch he's 14 And he's like, I want I want to I want to you
know buy some bitcoin but I have to be I have to be 18 I can't
buy bitcoin anywhere. And he's clearly young you know he's like
I really want to get into this and he tagged me because I've
known in Holland and I said well then get a wallet says no but
wallets he didn't quite understand it look read this. I
sent him to learn me a bitcoin.com
and said read this and then get a wallet and they and then he
sent me his bitcoin address he figured it out and I was I sent
him 50 bucks in Bitcoin. This kid like this is the next mogul
you watch he's like, Okay, I'm gonna guard this with my life.
And I said oh, by the way, when I sent it to you this morning,
it's up 11% Since then, so enjoy.
This is put a young man on the right path he gave him he gave
him an annuity little
little little orange pilling there so let me see. Curio
caster I love the kind of the new layout the new setting is
interesting.
He's kind of promoted he's you can promote your podcast now on
curio caster I guess
Oh, really? I think that's good. Yeah, I think you can he has
promoted podcasts and let's see. I like that. I like
the ad. I told a cache what it was at that workshop that for a
couple weeks ago, I mentioned somebody asked in their head,
how do I promote my podcast? You know, what's the best way to get
my podcast at the record? I don't know. That kind of stuff.
I'm not a podcast. Marketing. Sorry. Yes, it is bit bit
refills to the moon podcast. Yes. That's the one. Okay. I
guess my engine is not up yet. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah.
Well, they don't have a valuable look. No, I gave him shit about
that. So what's wrong with you people?
I mean, Nigeria. So what? I said, Hey, we know people. Yeah.
Yeah, they need to jump on the bus. So anyway, I
forgot was talking to Moses.
We were talking about the demo.
We heavily heavily pad demo, Curia cafeteria. astir. Oh, the
promotion sponsored pod monster pocket, or whatever. Yeah. But
she said, Well, you know how to promote my podcast. And that was
in what I said was, I think, anytime is this is right.
Because I'm a dummy on these things is buying podcast
advertising, buying an ad for your podcast, in an app in a
podcast app, like pod LP, or overcast or any curio cast any
of these apps, this support by sort of in app advertising
banner thing? You can buy that? Yep. Or buy ads on other
podcasts. Like to me if you're going to spend some money to
like promote your show. I try to build an audience, if you're
determined to do it that way. Like you should go to where
people are that are already listening to podcasts. Yes, it
makes sense to me.
Maybe, um, you know, that's no, this. This is what I've always
been hoping for. And now we actually have a way to share
revenues like, hey, you know, Steven Be curio caster. If you
put me on your promoted page, why don't I give you you know,
3% value block? Yeah, yes. Yes, this is the kind of stuff that
anybody can do today. The only thing is, I would say, Steven B,
where do I can't? This is another thing, developers. Two
things actually, please consider putting a simple defined contact
in your app.
People actually do you know, they don't, they're not really
used to it anymore because of Silicon Valley. But if you make
it easier, and more apparent to people do really like feeding
back information and then hearing back from their favorite
app developer, it really does work but we have a very poor
culture of this right now. The culture is typically a piece of
crap app, let me delete it, get another one. But But podcasts,
app users are very patient they are traditionally quite patient
and they understand and this is independent and you know, I
Yeah, they've been tainted a bit by the by the legacy apps but
make it apparent. Also, I have to say, Piero Castor added $1
translator in the booster grammar section
where it updates dynamically so you can see fee price very very
good at this is something I've been wanting to have for a long
time. But stop being purists.
It really gives you you know, I've even up my own booster
grams like what is this 69 cents this is stupid. Let me give a
little bit more his dump. Oh, when the when the price is
fairly stable. I get used to what the amounts are but then
when it swings a lot I yeah, I really does throw me off my
game.
It's somewhere between two and 3000 SATs $1 typically Yeah,
it's like
I mean, I've spent I have there have been months when I've spent
100 bucks on podcasts and no boosting and I don't know. I
didn't even know I did. Yeah, I back at the end of the month.
I'm like, Oh, wow, that boosted the crap out of people. I love
having the I love having the Umbro because it's it's really
my node for me, you know, and so stuff comes in there and I think
I started with 150 bucks.
On that note, excuse me.
And I use it to refill my wallets and I can't spend it
fast enough.
I'm telling you, it just comes in and goes out. And by the way
on your Umbral definitely set up the blue wallet, something or
other whatever it's called most I think called the Blue what
like the mobile? Yeah, so what you can do, it's kind of like
Elon, Elon bits only. Maybe it is actually Elon bits. That's
probably what it is. A second
Just get this app connected to mine. Yeah, but if you do
I think it's the Ellen bit server. Login.
Oh, sorry. Yes, see, let's see connect wallet. You can build
blue wallets an option yes blue wallet because then you can set
up
little mini wallets just like a shared node, right. So you can
set up as many of these blue wallets on on one app you can
give, you can have your friends, your family, everybody can set
up the blue wallet, and just using your node. And so I set up
a blue wallet and then I transferred money into that blue
wallet. Because it's kind of hard to send from your own node
is like not really possible most of the time.
So this is this is really a you'll love it because it works
over Tor and it'll just and you I use that I now use my own my
own little node for small payments with the blue wallet.
That's cool. Yeah, I didn't need to do that. Yeah, man so much
cool shit.
This was at a true Uncle Jim no thing, then. Not really because
you can't you can't keys into it. Although from what I saw on
a US on GitHub stuff activity, I guess ln bits is now key Sen
compatible. So the the wallet you create with with LM bits,
art or do work with key send? Oh, yeah, I read I'm not sure I
haven't looked. I haven't. No, not enough time in the day.
There's not there's really not. Hey, by the way, we're late
today with the board meeting. Which happens which by the way,
board members that's why we have the extra food here. You notice
we have Mexican we have some Texas Beef here from KNC cattle
we got a couple other things for you. We're sorry to keep you
over dinner.
But that's a big one for
me. Oh, my red wine. But we were we delayed the start because you
were at work with the move. How'd that go? And you were
moving your company to another floor or something? Yeah, it was
internal move is like the third floor moved down to the ground
floor half half of his because it was a bunch of just a bunch
of moving around bunch of phone system work.
That is
a waste the word. Yeah. I have to pull the cable. Did you?
Yeah, yeah, we did all of our cabling and stuff. So you have
people on Chad minions like little little people. Yeah, for
you, right. It's me and one other guy. You and your minion
your man. Amazing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, I can knock
encrypted I can crimp the hell out of a fire cat five cable now
I'm I'm I'm very good at cabling, but it's just it just
takes forever. dirty work is dirty. Work is dirty. Just get
dirty. I got I got my guy here hooking up my generator. Do you
want to talk funnily? Yeah, yeah, I got these guys that come
in after hours. You know.
I pulled some strings, because it's hard. But you can't you
can't even get a petroleum tank right now if you want to buy
one. So I said well, this was this thing over here and we'll
hook it up to my existing tank. Okay.
This a propane generator? Yeah, yes. Or what? Propane 22
kilowatt? Generac
Oh, that's a big one. That's a big size one. Yeah, phase or
single phase three. I could run I could run the whole house with
it. But you know, we're doing we're doing it properly. So
you've got selective selective switches, you can you know,
determine what you want to have on things pretty things pretty
badass. I mean, they've Okay, so pretty. So what's your runtime?
What's your runtime? A 10 days
10 days on a full portfolio? propane tank? Yeah.
That's good. That's not bad. Right? I'm thinking the next Ice
mageddon that Texas has, you're gonna have a huge you should be
able to like isolate yourself down to like one or two rooms
that you can keep warm. And then you could be able to run for
what like two weeks if you needed to easily because we have
a propane fireplace
keeps most of the house warm. We don't even have to turn on the
heating system if we don't want to.
So it'd be purely for the tankless water heaters.
Excuse me the studio fridge freezer you know we have propane
gas. Propane for the stove. Oh yeah, we have you know, we have
a well water we have our own aerobic septic system. So it
doesn't even have to be deep. Oops, you know, it sprays
freshwater over the ground. It's, you know, we're ready. I
got my got my ham radio, I got my rubber nice, my compass is
ready to go. So I'm not worried about Snowmageddon. That's not
going to happen, which had nothing to do with Snowmageddon.
It had everything to do with greed and an ERCOT where people
are trading energy every five minutes on the auction and they
just got greedy and forgot to turn some shit on and then they
had no natural gas to turn it on with. That's not going to happen
again. But it
Will is the grid under attack? Certainly the Texas grid which
has its own grid to bring in new grids, a new national grid under
climate change a high voltage DC grid? Yeah, for sure. Will they
mess with it, but they bring it down to prove a point. I'm not
putting it past anybody. How many times do we have to Russia
is going to cyber attack it or domestic extremists are going to
attack the grid? Come on. But yeah, I totally believe the
American government or pieces of it are completely capable of
proving a point by bringing down pieces of the grid just to get
us to believe in something else. But did you hear that we're so
off topic now. But did you hear the Matt Lee? My man McAfee is
the best. But how long have I been following you? I've been
following him for a decade. And he used to have all these
issues. He Oh, yeah. He's like, dude, crisis actors false flag.
I mean, this is some Alex Jones level shit. Yeah.
This is the stuff. And this is this is where Joe Rogan to bring
it full circle is right. Because things that were fake news,
misinformation, disinformation, scientifically dangerous three
months ago are now fact true and proven.
And people that the people that are trying to the people that
are most vocal about getting Rogen canceled right now are the
ones that spent literally almost five years telling us that
Russia that Russia is involved in the Trump campaign and it was
completely false. I mean, like 100% complete crap. Has any
credibility the same people telling you Russia's going to
invade Ukraine? Yeah, and what we know we already know it's
going to be a false flag. Okay, if if I don't even think that
and I think Matt Matt got cut short because what he started
saying I think it just kind of dropped it was what he started
saying he said I remember you have weapons of mass
destruction. Yeah, weapons of mass. Let's rock. aluminum
tubes. Yeah, of course.
aluminum tubes yella K
babies thrown out of incubators. That was my favorite that was my
favorite
Yeah, I still have that clip of the girl crying who turned out
to be she was the daughter of killer Knowlton PR executive who
had been given a script
throw the babies out of the incubators on the ground.
And they never get they never get held to task about they just
they just like okay move on. So of all the things that we've
accomplished in our lives we one day will be sitting on the porch
with our shotguns in our rocking chairs and our hound dogs and we
can we say man we sure enabled some crazy shit to be said
didn't we
that's what we did Davey. I remit that reminds me so I was
fishing one time with my with my dad so we're we're fishing and
the the the fishing is terrible. So we hadn't caught anything and
he's like it but we had we had in the truck. And so
how's that I guess I was a teenager
he's like at most useful squirrels.
So
what else is there to do an Alabama
hey you hungry let's go shoot some squirrels yeah
I'm like yeah sure. So we went get shotguns we're going around
on the boat well you shot the squirrels with the shotguns with
with like buckshot.
It was F is it be blow those who remember blow them apart with
that was there
was anything left?
We didn't shoot anything.
But we what it wasn't buckshot.
I can't remember slug. Yeah, no no.
Explode
Tannerite tracer rounds.
Shoot some scrub some trace. Uranium
depleted uranium tip tracer rounds, not your tracers. Yeah.
It's I'm sitting there and where he's like, you know, we're
looking for nest and that kind of thing. And I'm just fiddling
with the with I thought the safety was on so I'm just
fiddling with the trigger. And just, oh, I don't know what I
was doing cleaning the gun and it went off. No, no, no, not
that. Not that. I'm not that stupid. But I have it sitting
with the stock. Stock of the shotgun is sitting right. In
right in the meat of my hip. Like, really? Almost exactly. On
my crotch. Oh, just right there in the meat. And it's Roy
earlier.
Yes. Thank you for that word. The mic was sitting on my
growing and the barrel is facing straight up into the air and I'm
hold. I'm just holding my router. And I'm mindlessly
fiddling with this thing.
I don't know how the safety got off. But anyway, all of a sudden
boom.
discharge. And this thing just goes right into my job. It's
amazing. You have children Dave shows.
You that is the scariest thing that
ever happened. That's hilarious. I don't know how I got on that.
Oh, yeah. I don't know how you got there, but I do appreciate
the visual. Thank you. Yes. Do not ever wreck yourself with a
shotgun with a shot. Well, you know, Chris, do you know Sir
Chris?
You know, Chris, we talked about Chris Chris. Jacob.
Oh, no, he's my he's my buddy. No, no, no, he's not. But he's
been in a lot of companies with me. And then. Oh, yeah, he was
he was your sales guy. Right? Yeah. More than that. It was
like, Chris, we need a million dollars to make our numbers.
Okay. That was Chris, you'd go out, you know, Chris would work
for three years and burn himself out and go do something else.
crude, fantastic answer. Thanks. He's, well, he's no, he's also
been on the ground with us at the ground level starting
building stuff. He's just he's he understands sales very well.
But other things too. And he is after our last venture together.
eventually wound up owning some gun stores. And there's this
famous video on YouTube. It's a it's their office. You know,
it's like a dash cam, internal Office video, they published it.
And so I think at the time Chris had, like his girlfriend was
some crazy ex Marines.
I don't want to disparage marine so that's probably wrong. But
anyway, she had
she was really into guns and she had swapped out his trigger for
some other thing that was much lighter or, you know, sensitive.
Anyway, triggers. Yeah, so he, he didn't everyone has their
guns in this gun shop in the office and he and you see him
getting up, he's gonna walk out. He puts his gun in his
waistband. And then as he's walking here,
and shot right through his groin, out his butt.
I'm allowed to laugh because he's my friend. Oh, my God.
Yeah. And it's it's really, you know, it's you got it. It's on
YouTube. It's phenomenal. You just look, he's like, Dude,
that's the worst. That's the worst. He's okay. But it was not
fun.
He was bleeding quite a bit, apparently. Yeah, yeah. Shot
through some arteries or something. Oh, crap, man. That
yeah, that's a bad day. Yeah. So that's like, there's a couple
lessons here. Like don't let anyone else touch your gun. Yes,
yes. That would be the top one. Anyway. Um, do you want talk
about podcasting? Yeah, I know, for sure. There's but but yes, I
do, of course. But what we're talking about here is why we're
here. This is the whole It felt so good to tell multiple people
this week, including Tom woods to say, we fix it. We fix these
problems. So we can move on from here, let them all that. Even
Joe and hoopy. And everybody go argue over there. We really
don't get a shit. We don't care. It doesn't matter to us. And
we're not alone. We're not now a little island. This thing is
big. What we're doing is big. It's it's, it's it's rolling.
It's it's common. I mean, people are seeing it, they're talking
about it. They're suggesting podcasting 2.0 to people. It's
happening.
Because of all this, it's it's it's perfect. Unlike you, I feel
like we we don't really have to talk about that part of things
anymore. No, we don't, we don't. And it's nice to not have to be
to not have to, like, just go on and on endlessly about deep
platforming and all that kind stuff. Because to me the most,
the most important is what I was trying to say at the beginning,
and it probably just didn't just muddy it up. But to me, the most
important thing, really, is that when there's an option to cancel
somebody, it makes you stop actually listening to us trying
to understand what they're saying. Yes, yeah. Because, you
know, and what I meant by being charitable to somebody is that
she, actually we know what, we can't play another clip because
I think number three,
um,
see, try.
Yeah, try number three. Yeah, do that. And that they could apply
it to all different kinds of people. That idea of race and
the American experience tends to be based on skin. Yes. And so
that is what race means to me. When you talk about
being a racist. I was saying, you can't call this racism. This
was evil. This wasn't this wasn't based on the skin. You
couldn't tell who was Jewish. They had to delve deep.
To figure it out.
Now, clearly she's wrong about that. But, but, and that's kind
of the point is
the point, the point here is that she has a life experience
that tells her what racism is. And if you, if you when you say,
Okay, well, you were wrong, and therefore you need to be de
platformed or canceled about a no the Holocaust and racism that
you've you're no longer listening to what she says, what
the what the things, what she came to realize you can play I
think you played for is what she came to realize is that she was
wrong.
That that there was a racial component, but she still has
such a life experience that tells her that race is skin
color, that
you're to say that she was wrong.
Like, in a way that is harmful and cancelable is not
understanding who she is as a person either. You can the
the conversation could have been, instead of your evil, you
need to be de platformed the conversation could have been
something more akin to, I can see how you're hurt about your
life experience, influences the way that you think and talk.
And, I mean, yeah, but Dave, sorry. Two things. There's a
whole history of we'll be bold Goldberg being anything but
charitable to other people publicly agreed. Agree. Okay. So
this is where the canceled culture this is where the the
social networking and everything comes in and people are ready to
do it. Also after 74 episodes of Mo facts 75 Actually with Mo
facts
she's kind of disingenuous because there's something known
as colorism and she knows damn well that in the black
community, there's racism between skin colors themselves,
so to say, you know, black, white nanananana there's
everything in between the historically black colleges and
universities in the United States had the brown paper bag
test when they initially opened and you could not have skin
color darker than a brown paper bag to enter that university. So
she's disingenuous about her history she's making it very,
very simple to get out of this is my opinion. Was that Ned see
there?
There is. I am take I don't I do not dispute her past where she's
been an uncharitable towards other people in that there again
that's my point. But that's my point is that yes, yes, that's
the problem. I totally agree with you. That is the problem
she she has not been shared with this this goes back to the curry
I don't know if called the curry rule or the boomerang law the
Uber Uber then the media boomerang. If you use the
boomerang if you use the media to promote yourself or something
selfish even just a thought Believe it or not, that thing
comes around it may not be immediate could be years from
now and it will hit you with equal and opposite force in your
head.
Right in the head. Yeah. Right born clock. So she got it and
you know, and for my money. She was forced to do this. I don't
think she wants to do Kobe I think she just wanted she did.
This is bullshit. She was forced to do it by her overlords. The
view is a highly scripted program highly scripted. She
went off script, that's her mistake.
And, you know, she may be the most completely disingenuous
person in the whole world. And probably is but
I,
for my for myself, to me how to fix that is to take people at
their word until they prove that you can't. And he just went good
man, Dave Jones. You're You're a sweet southern boy in Alabama
shooting squirrels. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is evil
son. We got to let you know about this stuff.
kicking myself in the shoes, shooting squirrels hurting your
crotch get sketchy, no fish.
Catching
the worst part?
Yes, but you are
a very special person because you have this ability. You have
an incredible demeanor and calmness about you, even with
people that really irritate you. And I've seen this and you're
very, very good because I think your basic rule is
Doesn't take much just to be nice. Yes, it doesn't and it
doesn't. It really doesn't turn that frown upside down. Mr.
Dave. Mr. Happy to happy to twinkle toes. I could tell by
watching her face. Yes, you're right. She didn't want to do it.
But I can tell by watching her face that she really
the reason she didn't want to do it is because she still thinks
she's right. Of course still not 100% on board with what
everybody else said. And like, I'm just gonna put it real plain
to you. This is this is show business shit. I've been through
this too. You don't mess with the Jews in show business. I'll
just say it. Brian of London will back me up on this. We talk
about this stuff. And I love that about Brian of London. We
can talk about Semitism, anti semitism, all kinds of things.
He's very open really willing to listen.
That's just that's just what she did she crossed paths. Look at
look at who's producing look who the bosses are. This is a very
big thing I know. Because I've said to Jewish, Jewish people,
friends of mine, isn't what? You're not white. No, no, we're
not. We're not white. We're Jewish. Okay. And once you once
you've heard it,
then you're like, okay, but this is all reasonably new for me.
And I think it's with the whole white supremacy like,
we're not white. We're Jews.
And whatever the mechanism is, the whole thing is stupid.
The whole thing. You know what I like? I like that we have Jews,
Muslims. nutjobs, crazies, men, women. Gosh, who knows? Some of
our developers could be trans. I don't care. We're building
product. We're building cool shit. We're saving the world.
We're getting people paid.
That's what matters.
I can't believe that I spent this much time talking about
Whoopi Goldberg. I tried to pull you away from it. You just kept
doing
it let's thank some people that'll always that always
shakes it up. All right. Unless I'm sorry, if you want to play
the the final Whoopie ko bear follow no God.
But I completely understand what you're saying. It's just It's
futile to to think people were way beyond that. We've got a
dopamine dispenser machine and everybody's pocket.
Depressing. A little bit. But yeah, but no. Because pod Yes.
Yeah, but no, yeah, no. Yeah, no. Podcasts are definitely
changing that the calmness the ability to just walk and listen
to something that's a big part of Rogan success people aren't
flocking to him for disinformation they're flocking
to him because podcasts are the place we can hear someone talk
for two seconds like you I don't care if you talk for five five
hours about Whoopi I'll be right there with you
we you know you know we care you actually do care of course I do.
You know I care about you first and foremost you would you would
be concerned about my mental health well maybe our four I'd
be like dude let's just move on.
But we you know, we created times to for that you can play
faster speed you can fast forward you can skip ahead you
know, this is this is all within the hands of the of the user
now, what B mode times to do is what
but but this this is this is the shift this is the truth. This is
what we've been seeing this is what we've been waiting to
happen. Unfortunately, the the rise of true podcasting in its
real form of no one can mess with it. You can just do what
you want to do and and say what you want to say comes at the
same time the the world is in meltdown. But that's exactly why
it's so great.
For the past 24 months, I've had nothing but emails from people
saying and I've talked to Tom Woods talk to Joe Rogan talk to
Megan Kelly, they all say the same thing. I got the same
emails from people saying you kept me sane through this
insanity.
You did that? I guess do that's what podcasts do for people. And
it doesn't mean that you have to have information better
information. Just someone that you want to listen to that you
probably agree with, you know probably or or something that is
just you know, someone who seemingly is not affected and
we'll talk about something else whatever it is, this became real
important. This was podcasts secret victory.
Secret victory to me that that is I mean, obviously no agenda
but then that's pod land. That's mere mortals survival podcast.
It's, you know, the
Fun Fact Friday. That's everything everywhere. I mean,
like the that's
The causality the podcasts are part of. I mean, it really does
feel like a fan family type. You know, especially now that I can
send booster grants back and forth. I know like I'm talking
to James Cridland I'm literally talking to him during his show.
I'm like what I'm doing No, no, no, no, no. What are you
talking? Hey 6666 for the devil's advocate Yeah. Karen
down from a mere mortals the other day he said, and this this
just cracked me up he said that his ideal girl that he'd want to
date is kind multilingual
and, and get into Bitcoin for 2014
Nothing wrong with marrying for money my friend. Nothing wrong
with that. Nothing wrong with they deserve every penny if you
do. Speaking of speaking of pennies, yes. Let's thank some
peeps.
We get these are in completely jumbled up order because I had
no time to prep. So
chair Faro? monthly donation of $20.22. Thank you
deduce.
Got Scott Jalbert $12. That's a monthly donation. And I'm
going slow and these because I'm they're still on the screen. I
usually have my paper. Yeah, I hear this is out. You're ruining
the format. I know it's I'm totally off off kilter here.
Miguel Gomez, give us $20 As a one time donation, thank you,
Miguel. No note from Miguel Miguel, if you have a note, send
it to me, I should probably say that this is a value for value
project just to remind everybody, since I preach minds,
we'll do it.
We only exist by the value that we create and that people value
and send back. It's that simple. If you appreciate podcasting 2.0
This podcast all the work that's being done, the servers that are
running the node for Oh crap, I supposed to do that ring of
fire, the node for
shit, I'm sorry. For liquidity where we put all of all of our
bitcoins on this node and we open it we have hundreds of
channels open or at least over 100 channels. And we've actually
become an important node because of it.
All because of you. So whatever value you get out of it, or if
you just love it, and that's the value right there. Go to
podcasting next.org You can go down to the bottom of that page
has a red donate button, or of course and we'll get to those
you can boost us and and send stream some stats to us as you
enjoy everything we're doing.
Loretta Vandenberg gave us $10 I think that's the new subscript.
I was gonna say, banana but Vandenberg Vandenberg Phantom,
is that Dutch? Yeah, well, I know Adrian Vandenberg
from Whitesnake.
Yeah, he's a Dutch guy. He's a Dutch guitar player.
wonder she's related. Probably not. That's, that was always my
problem with white lion. Just too close to Whitesnake. Yeah,
yeah. Do you remember firehouse firehouse Yeah.
Did they sing Don't close your eyes
remember that when dunk clues
firehouse
Christian band today? No no when a Christian
was that but yeah that was firehouse striper. Man Do you
remember striper strike Yeah, when I look into your eyes when
I look into your eyes that's what your that was firehouse
Don't close your eyes was kicks kx. Yeah. Oh, yes. This is this
is firehouse Yeah. Oh my god.
Take me back to the 80s Yeah, I got to turn that off. That's
horrible.
My aim was Don't close your kicks. I remember kicks to
know I was hairband guy. I hear you, bro. I hear you. I hear
you. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Thank you, Loretta. And we got
Mark Graham gives $1 He's scription monthly donor. Thank
you, Mark.
$20 from Samuel Thorpe. And he says hello. My previous donate.
Oh, hello. Hello. My previous donation was twice on
actually says hello. Hello. Okay. Hello. My previous
donation was read out twice. So I'm making up for it with
another donation. Thank you. This is a new strategy. Very
good day well done. Our evil plan has worked once again.
Notes sent to give at podcast index.org subject donation Okay,
so he's got another note here. Okay, here we go. So he sent us
another note he says
Oh yeah this was
he says my donation was read out twice that the second time you
read the clarification about being fr pronounced father.
Neither time was I anticipating the note to be read out I think
I called him fryer.
I think he is fryer isn't fr I think I think he's I saw that
note I think FR is fryer is it not? Or is it father? Well he
says pronounced father. Oh, and he's a god caster or is he just
a supporter?
Do this see? I listened to a lot of God casters have to say yes,
I feel grim path is the name from the pilgrim path. Okay,
I'll check that. I love religious podcasts in jet most
of them most of them.
I do. I love Steve Webb man. I can listen to him all day long.
Well, you might like the podcast.
Oh, look it up in a minute. I'll send it to you. There's a
podcast you might like.
Yes. Oh, see, Samuel says pronounce father. I started my
podcast from the pilgrim path in November lockdown is 2020 here
in the UK. Oh, so it was it was Hello. Hello. Hello from the
pilgrim path. Yeah.
James and Oscar and Samuel are all just like cringing right
now.
In the UK use WordPress to get going shortly after I
encountered first first no agenda and then podcasting 2.0
in a conversation with Adam and Dave
I quickly realized WordPress wasn't going to cut it is paused
rethink life happened at Time passed. And then you had the
rss.com guys on and I signed up with them the day after I heard
the show and they've been brilliant. Oh good. Oh, he's
dude he's duped in the index. We have a dupe we got a duper Oh
Was he WordPress and rss.com can well I'm looking at curio caster
so I guess I should look at
Can I just use that p i number that's interesting. From the
pilgrim path here it is a dupe
do I know his podcast? Not him personally? He is
oh, that Yep. Yeah, that's that's the WordPress I'll clean
it up. Okay, so which one which one? Do we use the the Yeah, we
got we got the right actually actually see. Oh, there's a
different Pilger Oh, there's a pilgrim path podcast. Pastor
Chris Surber. This one is from the pilgrim path. I know but we
have Pastor Chris horning in on the name here I think we should
we should shadow ban him. Shadow but
I'm going to shadow ban. This anchor.
interloper and move Samuel up to the top. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'll
clean that up. Get get ready to get your value box set up.
Yeah, yeah. What are you doing Samuel? Set up your blog. Oh,
man, you actually have a mouse over it says claim your feed
isn't true reclaim this claim this feed triggers me it does
claim this feed on podcast we're okay. What should what should it
say?
Add a valuable
I'm
just think about it. claim this feed is just such a huge thing.
And it's usually used by assholes who trick you into
signing up for something they steal all your content. Great.
Yes. Oh, great. It'll change things.
Thank you ppreciate it man. That's how we debug our shit
here. People live on the air. Right. This is no good. Change
that okay.
noted on the pad.
Chris, Chris bars. Ron, give us $33.33 And he says A big thanks
from Sir bargy today for helping my new my new podcast show up
right on the index. Oh, cool. So exciting to tell our producers
about the features they can see on these modern apps. Thank you
pod father and go podcasting. Holy crap. Go podcasting.
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Okay. Yeah, we got three we got
$1 from Boris Kaczynski. Not sure if I'm saying that right.
That's a monthly donation. Thank you, Boris. Boris. And got David
Mitas $10 Thank you, David. Monthly.
And Joseph Baraka $5. That's also a monthly Thank you,
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testing his plumbing. And he says go podcasting? Yeah, well
I'm not gonna hit the jingle for two SATs bro. Yeah, you below
the lie the way do Dave. Bitcoin is it
41,758 went up like five grand just today? Yeah. What is I see
a straight green line. Right up my chart. I wasn't even paying
attention to it.
What do you think that was? What do you think's the deal? Pay no
attention to the financial markets, Please play it pay no
attention to the trillions of dollars. The Federal Reserve is
lending banks overnight. And for two weeks, three weeks pay no
attention to the $300 trillion of derivatives. Pay no attention
to the inflation. All the people that are commenting that Spotify
is stock is suffering because of people like pulling their music.
Oh no, that is not true. No. How about they have less users than
they expected? And they lost money and they're gonna lose
more even more money next year. And the whole thing is overblown
to start off with the stock market is overvalued. Certainly
NASDAQ. I mean look, look at all the red that has happened since
the beginning of the year all tons of stocks are down days.
This is not new for them. All of NASDAQ took just a serious dump
especially when Facebook when Facebook now today NASDAQ is up
200 But that's just a seesaw the thing here peloton stock surges?
Yeah, yeah, okay, after it flamed for it. So So yeah, until
someone crashes dies. And in a movie, oh, you got a heart
attack and the penalty in the movie stock drops 20%. Facebook
was down like 26%. Yeah. And you know, why is
it they lost users for the first time ever? What happened? They
lost $10 billion for the first time ever, not that they lost it
$10 billion revenue hit because of the iOS changes to how how
apps and Facebook has the SDK, everyone has Facebook's SDK. And
that SDK, they severely limited what it was doing. You can only
imagine if you have a billion users let's just say they have a
billion fine $10 billion so that's at least 10 bucks ahead.
Every single person that they lost on you because Apple
decided not to give some information. I love it when I
hear James talking about tracking well that just work out
what I had to give to you. Okay, fine. They know everything they
profile you as a human being your your behavior, your habits,
your location, where you go, who you meet with who you're in
proximity with. These are the things that Apple turned off.
And it's $10 billion revenue hit. And that's why everyone got
hit. But when Snapchat piece of crap, they had they were they
had positive numbers for the first time revenue numbers.
People like Snapchat most haven't figured out. They know
how to target. So they they popped up 60% 60 It's It's It's
disgusting. The whole thing is just disgusting. I mean, can we
So Microsoft, made like,
I don't know, they had like a record record profit to the
border. I got $125 billion in cash in the bank.
Apple record quarter. Amazon record quarter mean, these guys
these tech companies are making more money than God right now.
Well, yes, no.
This Yes. But the real thing is
they're buying back their own stock.
Enriching the executives and shareholders. Well, I
The reason I brought that up though, was we as a company,
have Microsoft Volume Licensing.
Not not like us index but in my day job company, we have
contracts with Microsoft. We get the word
back in like, early January, we got the word that Microsoft
licensing on March one is going up 20% across the board. Sure,
because you know, supply chain issues.
This is Microsoft 365, office 365 All their cloud, all their
cloud licensing all their traditional on premise
everything everything up. 30%. So when are you moving to Linux?
In the company? Well, you can you can your business. You can't
it has to be Excel. It has to be word to be. Yeah, I remember
when, when I took my company public, it had to be WordPerfect
5.3 I believe.
That was the only WordPerfect version you were allowed to use
for sec SEC filings. All the lawyers used it.
Dos? Yeah. DOS, DOS DOS, it had the s one document all in
WordPerfect was it the Ford slash was X XL for the first
while it may still have it, it supports those slash commands
that Lotus 123 had.
I've never used them, but I know. You'd have like I was a
Macintosh lotus, jazz user, Lotus, Lotus, Jazz Jazz who came
on 18,000 floppies. you installed it on your Mac and
Lotus Giles.
First Net? Well, my first home network was Novell.
No no it wasn't my first my first one was
I forgot what they called it it was the door it was a das TSR
Terminate and Stay Resident program it would do would
communicate in the background all
in base to the head and bass two connectors the head the little
at you had to terminate them on the end. You know, you'd have a
run of
turn s in the head and we had these orangey monochrome screens
running I think it was das three dos three two or three one. And
you had
the the the you had word was it WordStar Lotus 123 Yeah, yeah.
Man that's just that's like ancient
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up all those one set booster grants. Thank you boosts. That's
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you, Dan.
2222 sets from Kyron. The mere mortals podcast big of the
devil, pod friend and he says thanks, legends. My goals for my
goals for February are to get the value for value podcast on
the Casta pod and to get some sort of node up and running. Oh,
Rola. No.
Boost. Wish me luck. quackquack.
Was it TOS yes road docks
Brian mozzie says 10,000 SAS new fountain and he says can't wait
to receive my Umbral so I can latch on to the podcasting 2.0
Freedom wrath. Yeah, yeah. That's right lash onto the raft,
baby. You got to read Snow Crash Dave. You got to read it.
It's really writing it. It's really well. It's really whether
you like it. Okay. I just wrote it down.
1111 SATs
through pot friend. This is anonymous. And the message says
great podcast. Well, thank you, whoever you are. Mysterious,
anonymous donor anonymous donor.
Sir Pete gave us 12,222 says. He says Don't just stand there
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propagate the message of podcasting 2.0 to investors,
developers and producers. By working the algos on LinkedIn.
Every day after the episodes drops, there's a fresh ready to
go post on LinkedIn. And it Yes, he does that every single
episode and I think it matters. I really appreciate it. LinkedIn
is an under utilized social media for a lot of people. I
refuse to go on it I have an account refused to go on it
because I just can't handle another social network. No, I
deleted my LinkedIn profile. I finally did because I just, I
just can't handle it. You're never going to your platen to
put your paneling on hireable at this point anyway, um, you'd use
one of those Kooks? Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, you do
a podcast with that um, you guys you're done.
You better find out find a career with me or otherwise it's
over it's over. So I had this buddy there's a there's a real
prominent lawyer here in Alabama, Alexander Shannara. And
he's like a you know he's a what do you call it? One of the guys
that sue people for injury like injury large Personal Injury
ambulance chaser just Yeah, I was not Dallas trying not to
Thomas jet. No, these guys have the best commercials. Thomas.
I'm gonna fix. I'll get you millions of dollars. Well, he
calls himself the Alabama hammer. Exactly. Alabama hammer,
we'll get you paid. Yeah. So I knew a guy who a long time ago
that was going he was a lawyer. And he was going, he got offered
a job from from this firm. And all of his friends he got all of
his friends said don't do it. Because once you go and work for
this guy, you'll never work for any landlord anywhere else.
Yeah, you get blacklisted. Yeah. And
I don't
cannot reveal what he did.
But he's making a lot more money.
Okay.
Cool. McCormick gave us 333 sets through fountain and he says I'm
boosting while I'm
okay. Okay. Um
we may need to cut this out
or not? Yeah.
Yeah, I think so. Let me just start over here.
We got a donation for 333 sets through fountain. And this
person says, I'm boosting you while delivering weed.
I don't think we have to edit that out. You don't Okay. He's
delivering it to my door for heaven's sake, a coma.
Okay, it's probably illegal. It's illegal. It's legal in some
states day if you don't know his situation. He may not even be in
The US you may not even be weed.
It may be actual ways, right? Just a big bag of weed you go
see, just Justin de Zhong from Michigan says first boost, boost
or die
that was 500 sets Welcome Welcome to the party power
booster die. Wow. Coming in with serious I like that idea
booster. Another t shirt opportunity.
Store die. Nomad Joe 750 says he says tick tock me more
and now it's time for some hot namespace talk. We haven't done
that in a while. Yeah, it's an old one. Yeah, it's a classic
from the archives.
Where this show is now old enough. We have archives Yes, we
do. We have archives. We're ready for a season tag. Season.
Cast Pelland gave us 3300 sets and through fountain he says he
says haha, the content of my nickname. Thanks.
Now that part we might have to cut out if we go into that
again. Yeah, yeah, let's not do p LAN. No.
1000 SATs from anonymous through breeze and it says Fletcher says
boost boost Fletcher that's not Fletcher. No. I don't think we
don't have a flood. We don't have a flood you're saying boost
now. Well, we all do.
That is quite an oversight oversight. I think yeah, there's
no Fletcher boost not nothing I'm aware of. Caspi Lind again,
he gave us 1000 SATs. He says to give some details about my
nickname, it should be cheese from P land in English. P stands
for sugar beet in this case.
Okay, he's got a link here. I love that people can see the
links in blue sent the link in the booster gram. Yes. Cool. Oh,
wait, it's a picture. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna break every rule
and I'm going to click on this picture. And hope that this is
nothing nothing terrible. Oh, well, it's just a picture of
sugar beets. What happened to the good old days of goatse
go God.
Hey, kids, go and google that one. No place now. Okay, this is
sugar beets. I guess they're just laying on the ground sugar
beets big deal in Holland. Oh, are they? That's what people ate
during the World War Two the Hunger Winter 45 They would get
on their bicycles with wooden tires and bike for 100
kilometers just to get a sugar beet and then eat it with the
nettle soup with rocks. Not like this. I guess you can't
I guess there's no sugar cane that's not the right climate. So
you need meat and horses like it of course horses eat sugar beets
Sigit picture the sugar beet Thank you. I
put this in show notes.
He's pretty janky looking sugar beets are pretty nasty looking
good. Going into show notes for sure. Even putting them in our
folder for today. He says love the Dutch. I know. Boost boosts.
Yeah, boost anonymous. Another another flutter says boost some
but somebody somebody is politicking for a Fletcher
boost? Yeah, this is weird. It may be him. He may be
politicking himself.
And there's another one for another 1000 says Wow. somebody
really wants this
is all anonymous. Yellow zosky said he gave us 33,333 SATs.
He's from the consumer choice radio podcast. No. Good guy.
Longtime libertarian thinker found through fountain nap and
he says hello. Hello from Vax mandated Austria. Umbral is
booming. BTC Miner is hot and loud and podcaster wallets
banging Yeah. For non French francophones out there, check
out the podcast. Lim touch seriously. Let lemma Lyn lemon
lint in this okay, spell it for me.
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Valentijn Dawn tenders Lemma and tenders the misunderstood is
what that means. Yeah, okay. Everyone who just listened to me
misunderstood what I said.
Absolutely. That is a was onomatopoeia. Yeah. Oh my god a
jingle for.
Between A that is the misunderstood between a French
Canadian and a Luxembourger on Francophone politics and
culture. That's actually pretty funny. I'll bet that it Yeah.
Especially with Alexa poser. I wish I could. I'm sure there's
no speaking English, we're Luxembourg.
It's like a non Country. It's where everyone has their
banking. It's like
where do you have we have our Bahamas with no, no. What is our
LLC state here? beiden state? Oh Delaware Delaware. Yeah, this is
kind of like a Delaware of Europe. Saudi Ireland. Yeah.
Well, you have I think you have a royal family and then bunch of
banks.
Guys, you got a palace. You got a cool casino and a bunch of
banks and consumer choice radio if you want to hear crib. Yeah,
yeah, pick and vaping Wow, they're getting wild in
Luxembourg. Yeah, I like it.
He's a wildcat. This Umbral man people are digging this. This
Umbral is with Halle pad is made for podcasters. The new version
is a lot better. It's a lot more stable. It's very see I like the
14 for 14 Is it now? 1314 1213 1313 Yeah. John's BRT,
give us EU baller boost 49,490 sets Bala shot kala Blaze on em
Paulo nice.
And his messages to
that's it
really unsatisfying now but it's still good for me. Yeah.
stim are stemmer 42.
Gave us 1000 SATs and he says Tristan from fountain. Alright,
thank you. Thank you, steamer 42 John's VRT again with another
49,490 Shot call 20
give you
like each other.
And another one from John's VRT. 4949
No, that's not it's not about oh, he only gets one few. Yes.
Just a little pick me up. Again. One of the boost is that this is
better for after the big ball or it's mood boost.
Thanks for the boost. Okay, so Tim K. The Bootstrap bandit. Oh,
yeah. He gave us a bunch a little bit. A little bit
donations, but I'm gonna read him though. Yeah.
Hi. 69.
Two emojis. I can't decipher. And
another high and a emoji this the finger pointing up. Okay,
great. Yes, me. Now this sounded to me like it was a nasty gram.
Speaker.
Pictures you can't decode. Yeah, a progressive nasty grandpa's
when that was yeah, gotcha.
See, John's BRT, again with 4949 and a few.
I think your P was better than I want that in the new heli pad
release you doing that? You do.
Okay.
Thank you. Yeah. The Pew is cool. You can also just from
time to time, do a bar and d.
State call random. Yeah, it wouldn't be fun if you're heavy
pad just one boost.
That is, that's a good one. That's just every now and you
can't you never know when it's going to happen. Well, how about
that's over over 10,000 SATs boost. You know, you've you've
you've already you're getting in on I've a PR request to have a
pull request ready to go. You're talking about I'm able curry
beat you to it because he's doing this doing this. Oh,
excellent. Oh, brilliant minds think alike. Only the good ones
can implement it though. That's not me. Everything everywhere.
Gary aren't our buddy. Through fountain he sent us 3141 SATs.
He says the last few weeks have shown why open podcasting is a
must. Hopefully some big players will embrace it once they
realize they can't dominate it. Gary aren't everything
everywhere daily. Thank you, Gary. And I've seen his posts
and I've seen his overall his overall messaging. Don't get too
hung up on the big boys, Gary. Yeah, don't get too hung. Don't
get too hung up on big shows using it don't get too it'll all
happen. This is you can't force it. It just takes time. The
moments when all of a sudden people hear about it are
magical. We're living one right now kind of
this is the groundswell and this is going to be more and more and
more of a don't get hung up on Apple do they're not going to do
it. Apple's not going to do it. Spotify is not going to do it.
Amazon's not gonna Google's not going to do it.
The author is going to do it as podcasters telling their
audiences to use a modern podcast app for all the reasons
we discussed. One thing I want to ask Gary is I've boost a
boost in his body and in his show, he says, leave me a review
or send me a question and I'll read it out on the show. And you
do. I've boosted him things. Some booster grabbed him, and
I'm I have not heard it on the show. And I need to
hear it on the show. That's the best show. Yeah, yeah.
You have to that's you got to close the loop man. Closed loop.
I'm going to keep boosting you until I hear my message on your
show Gary boost. It's a boost sooner I'm going to boost Nami
you until I hear it.
Boost khaki I think is the term you're looking for. Now that
would be if we all boosted
alright tonight eight o'clock synchronized watches we all
boost Gary at the same time. It's a boost Kakei. This word
does not need to exist but it was wiped from the lexicon. I
saw a different one though I saw boosts chain from hug story.
Hashtag thanks, chain Well, I think you boost they're doing it
live. Okay, I think you boost and then you can boost to
someone's boost. I gotta I gotta Carolyn Blaney and they're doing
crazy shit over there. I'm telling you this people are
running away with this stuff now. Well, I mean, Sir Spencer
and Abel Kirby and all that. They're all nuts. Tech totally
crazy. And that
we love them. This is what we need reckless behavior. Perfect
behavior. Hashtag reckless. Please run with scissors. It's
podcasting. 2.0 What could go wrong? That that's your shirt
right there.
That's your shirt. That's it.
Comic Strip blogger. rounding it out. He's the delimiter That's
right. We've reached the end. He's here. Yes. 10,033 says
through pod friend. He says greetings to podcast index.org.
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that's it everybody boost when you can keep those numbers up.
It looks like a lot but it's not really.
Please check check your numbers. It looks like a lot but not
really. But we appreciate everybody extra. Who boosted
this week because all of your sets have been received and they
are now worth about 15% More than when you send them. The
donation said the booster gram segment is the longest way to
explain to get $20 in forever in the
guy standing with a cup has an easier job than we do. Yes.
I don't know if you what you wish you could even this less
than minimum wage if you weren't.
But we know from the way value for value works, though. I mean,
it always evens out. If you ask people to send what they think
it's worth. It always evens look, I've learned
the way I've lived is whenever I needed money, I just said okay,
it should it'd be cool to have some money to like pay the rent
and then shows up somehow. This has been my life. So I know that
you know we've got our expenses. Were kind of covering the
expenses sometimes a little bit more. We were good.
We could do a hell of a lot better. We could all will be
great to put some money in our pocket. But I don't see that
happening for a quarter for the foreseeable future net forever.
Did you see the hate mail that we got? Oh, no. Oh, no. What do
you mean?
No like it like 430 this afternoon? Oh crap, I missed it.
No, I'm going to anonymize it on the fly. But it is pretty funny.
Okay.
says, Hi, I'm contacting you today because my podcast listing
is not correct. Again.
My, my website should be blah, blah, blah. And my podcast feed
should be blah, blah, blah. I'm very frustrated that I have to
babysit your company to get my listing up to date is very
inconvenient. And if I have to keep babysitting your company to
make the correct changes, then you can pay me $20 an hour.
Since then, I would be kind of working for you. Perhaps you
should just let the user add their own website and RSS feeds
because your company can't seem to get anything right. Wow. This
is great. And you anonymizing this person this is nothing no
agenda way these people you call out by name and make a fun fun
deal out of it. This is hilarious. No, no. Well, well,
well, no, but we're really sorry that we once again our company,
our enormous Corporation. We're very sorry the company screwed
it up. But when in fact there's oh my god, Dave. We're getting
calls from the VC they can't believe that we've screwed it up
once again that like the on the phone like you guys here we got
people complaining. Yeah.
We're gonna have to go on Colbert and apologize. Yes. What
was the problem? What was the problem? And you $20 No, don't
do that. Our God. What was the problem? Just a reset needed on
his feed? They just moved to state and didn't do a redirect.
Oh, okay. But somehow it's our stupid, our stupid corporation
who can't get it together. That's great. Why doesn't
everybody understand bye bye.
By the way, the global hive mind that I changed my feed you are
Yes. Yes. And why doesn't everybody understand just by
looking at our website? We're not a big corporation.
It should be evident. It should be obvious to you. Yeah.
We try. We try. We try. We do try. And we fail. Ah, try again.
Long week for you, Mr. Dave. It is we doing this weekend I'm
going to do on this weekend. This weekend, I'm going to be
working on trying to get the index
to be better about refreshing metadata in episodes. Oh, okay.
Yeah, so I messed it up. Yeah.
Let me just run through it real quick.
is, so the issue is just purely, it's some technical debt that I
have to go and fix. And I was in a hurry yesterday from being
basically I wasn't explaining this well. But what I was trying
to say is that
there's a performance, excuse me, there's not a there's not an
agreed upon way within within the world within the world of
RSS. To know, to do this, to say that a feed has been an item has
changed, you really
just have to
what am I trying to say that you can tell the feed has changed,
but there's not an accepted way to know that an item has
changed. That also does not introduce a lot of, of false
positive stuff. And so there's a lot of feed generators out there
that, that update their, their feed content dynamically.
Right, and it will really screw you up, because you will end up
sucking in and doing in spending all of this performance time
hammering your database on updating items that really are
just these, these non-systemic is setting a new timestamp for
you automatically or something screws up your aggregation i Oh,
hey, I've been through this with you for a decade, my friend?
Yes, I know, I know what you're saying. I know the pain. One an
example of this, go look at
Librivox. Their RSS feeds are terrible.
But, but they're necessary. I mean, Librivox, we have, you
know, we need those things in the index. Those are important.
But they're, these are bad. So one. So what made the trade off
early on at the very beginning to performance reasons, because
we don't have a lot of money to spend on server horsepower. A
made the trade off of saying, I'm not going to update the
episode metadata. Unless it's something like title. I think
that may be the only thing. And the reason is because we didn't
have a big enough database server to handle right. Just all
the data, just the data, the pure data. Yeah, that's just no
agenda Show Notes alone. Yeah. And so what I've done is, I had
started working on this about three months ago.
And then dropped it because we got a lot of other stuff going
on.
And Hello, Pat and a lot of stuff. So now I'm going to get
back to now realize when I went back to it yesterday, that I had
gotten further along with the code than I thought I had so
good. is really one of those pleasant surprises. Yeah. All
right. I see what I did here. Okay.
I haven't with my code all the time. I go back to my old code.
I'm so happy. You're AppleScript Yeah, right.
What's this MAC drive? It's trying to act.
So anyway, that that's, that's something I'm gonna be working
on this week. And I hope within Hey, man, why don't you Why
don't we Why don't you take
some money out of the node and go take your wife out for
dinner? Yes.
paid directly from the node. Yeah, no, of course you have to
use breeze and cook it up and ran into an offer to pay them in
SATs but take your wife. Take your wife out to dinner.
I should just do that and show when the waiter comes for the
bill. You just say my breeze? No, no, no, this is what you do.
Okay, you ready? So obviously you can't take any money because
we don't have any to give. But here's what you do. Take her out
nice restaurant. And when the bill comes you say baby this was
from podcasting? 2.0
just say just say it fuck yeah, it's not it's not no but just in
life credits it is like credit. Karma. You got lots of good
karma. Baby all those hours I spent writing code in the in the
closet. A slow eat slow
No, no, you know, heavy on the one. Just a little bit. All
right, I'm gonna let you go.
Oh man, we both got it. Thanks Dave and have a great weekend
brother. I'll be we'll be talking.
Everybody else Thank you very much for attending this late and
somewhat prolonged board meeting of podcasting 2.0 We look
forward to seeing you next friday Same time, same place See
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