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podcasting 2.0 for September
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strikes almost no one's gonna do
something like that. Hello

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everybody it's Friday time once
again for the meeting of the

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Board of Directors of podcasting
2.0 that is you that's you

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that's you and you You're all
welcome into the boardroom.

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Bring you all the latest on
what's happening at podcast

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index.org everything podcasting
2.0 and of course all the gossip

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from podcasts tech stocks social
I'm Adam curry in the heart of

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Hill Country Texas and then
Alabama Don't call him a bro my

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friend on the other end ladies
and gentlemen Mr. Jones

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now you're the expert expert in
show openings. And I don't want

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to I don't want to criticize

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okay what I do wrong did I get
the date wrong where to do

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No, I think you missed the low
hanging fruit. I did yeah, it's

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the opening could have been
we're all jacked up.

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Oh damn

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Dorsey.

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Oh we can stop and start all
over again. No cheating that VG

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first of all I need to say
apologies everybody we're late

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with the show today and see
there they are see the pissed

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off there so they've been
waiting outside they let me open

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up the door for a second there
they are. Come on in guys sit

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down over there coffees one

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the master the next board.

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Oh yeah. 40 years. Yeah, so it
was about 30 minutes before we

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typically do the show. And I
knew that my stepdaughter in New

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York City she lives in Brooklyn
that she wasn't feeling well she

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stayed home from work yesterday
tried to get an appointment at a

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clinic couldn't get one at all
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this morning 11 o'clock and she
felt really bad and so yeah,

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she's COVID Of course she is
fully vaccinated which makes

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nothing but sense and and you
have to understand that my

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stepdaughter is it fits in
Brooklyn complete liberal all

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the way it's you know it's we've
had tension in the family but

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love each other all very much.
We get along but we have massive

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differences of opinion.

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We all love our lives. We should
all love our liberals in our

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lives. Of course, of course. Of
course they treat them well. So

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then,

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you know so that Tina had
already kind of prepped her

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yesterday saying you know if
you're positive so I've got the

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just sent to me, I might add by
a no agenda producer, the

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official Indian Silverado pack,
which is a blister pack, it's

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for four for 14 days. And the
first five include zinc wasn't

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some doxofylline I guess, or
some kind of steroids and

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ivermectin doxycycline
doxycycline Thank you ivermectin

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and and you know it's a little
blister packs there's on the

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first day you take the second
day take these you don't take

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every single one every day so
it's completely that out for

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you. So I had to FedEx that
overnight. I had to get it ASAP

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because you know you can't you
think you can get ivermectin or

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anything that will help in in
New York City. Well, I got news

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Here in in Alabama, like so
this. around the office, we have

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some healthcare clients and
around the office. One of our

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clients put out this he's a well
respected doctor physician, he

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put out this paper is basically
just a paper for all for

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anybody. It's not like a medical
thing. It's basically it's

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written for Joe Blow and it's
protocol. protocol. Yeah, it's a

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protocol and he's saying, here's
what we've seen over the last

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you know, year and here's what
we used to do and here's what

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we're doing now and all this
kind of stuff. So he put this

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out a few weeks ago, maybe three
weeks ago and then it says on

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there it's like well we tried
these things and we've been just

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really didn't have much success
and we tried this other stuff.

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And so at the end of it he comes
to a boil it all down to say the

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only thing that is 100 like not
100% successful, but 100%

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perfect always helps. Yeah,
always helps is the monoclonal

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antibodies.

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hmm yeah,

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that's what Joe Rogan told me
to. Yeah, and the monoclonal

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antibodies seem to be like the
magic juice

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like immediate immediate done
like it kills them immediately.

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Yeah, yeah. I mean and so and of
course so then two, you know,

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two weeks later,

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yeah, they've limited. Limited
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no Di Di Di us. Well, you can
you can imagine that. For me to

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be sending her the Tucker
Carlson approved horse dewormer

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paste

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did you send did you send Ritz
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Some water crackers you know so
it's actually it's kind it's a

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very interesting way of coming
together on a couple of things

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she had texted me a few weeks
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messed up about the vaccine let
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want to do and Miss Miss like if
you don't Vax I don't want to

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talk to you okay. And I and I
actually figured out what's

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changing her some of her views
slowly and it's a podcast which

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one it's the Red Scare your
heard of this podcast Red Scare

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no it sounds like a
misinformation now Bonanza

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it's it's to millennial girls
women I think they're late 20s

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maybe early 30s and honestly the
way they talk kind of it's you

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know it's not at all like the
presentation style but a lot of

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their topics are very no agenda
ish. Really an odd way Yeah,

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this you should check it out
there they're interesting.

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Listen to

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Red Scare Red Scare. Everybody's
alerted the Brookings Institute

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at this point.

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I think they're very successful
they do Patreon I think they do

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20 grand a month or so.

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Like Yeah, get on that train.
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I want to be interviewed by the
Red Scare so that's what I need.

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Yeah, okay, we're changing the
protocol in this podcast is just

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Red Scare all the time.

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Before we start with any any
rundowns. I wanted to thank

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Steven B again because we didn't
really get to talk about in the

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last show since we had to pre
tape that you were on a trip

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with your wife your anniversary
How was it by the way how were

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Chicago everything

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is great. You want to get my
Chicago stories.

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You got a trip report or
something? Yeah, of course. A

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trip report.

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Yeah, trip report.

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Dave's trip report.

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It is not worthy of a jingle at
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see, we were there for Thursday
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night as anniversary trip. So we
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you know this festival this
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who was performing it ride fest?

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Well evidently it's a thing that
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know about it but there back
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during the summer. Maybe june
july I forgot. And the reason we

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bought tickets is Cosmo. Melissa
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Oh, and there are some Oh, I'd
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great. Yeah. Okay, so there's
some other bands that were

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playing as well that were like
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living color.

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With Corey Glover even though he
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cool.

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Yeah, it looked like the
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and more living color as
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like, hey, whatever. The Nine
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good lineup. So there was
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Pixies so it was a good lineup
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those groups we're gonna we're
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Well. So add from the time we
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we left to go every

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everyone had canceled all of
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then. Man. Yeah, so then
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okay, faith, no more. That's
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days before we went faith no
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unquote, mental health reasons.
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So who was anyone performing was
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stands. Well, we got a guitar
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So we It was like, we looked at
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we were like, okay, there is one
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about, kind of, you know, in
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don't I mean, it's more of a
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two songs and the rest all
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And then on Saturday, literally
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band on Saturdays lineup. So we
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even go to this concert. We're
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to Chicago. Neither one of us
are you went to Chicago. museum

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nice.

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stayed at the museum all day on
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met you know, when we got
married. We met in Moscow in

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Moscow, Russia. So we

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I didn't know you were an agent.

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What do you think I'm doing this
Yo with you. I finally wormed my

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way in

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to the gene is going to be
pissed on his turf,

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the FSB doesn't always
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Center did not communicate at
all. So you met in Moscow? Yeah.

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Yep. So we had for Friday night,
we had dinner at a Russian Tea

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Room. It was one of the best
meals I've ever had in my life.

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Was there a lot of pickled stuff
and on identifiable meats?

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No, no, it was at duck

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off and I've had the Russian
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Have you like these duck wings
or something? It was melt in

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your mouth. Delicious. Yeah, we
had a Georgian white one. just

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taught

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you brought that from you in a
jug right? You hillbilly the

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other Georgia. Oh, I'm sorry.

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Well, good. You're where they
hate crypto.

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So it sounds like you guys had a
good time. Yeah, we did. Renewed

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your love and everything's good
for another 20 years and they

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never had a fight. Not one and I
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We almost we narrowly avoided
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gunfire Asad hotel Chicago. It

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is an exciting place to be

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dude three o'clock in the
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having trouble sleeping because
this is Saturday not because I

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know we get to fly out early the
next morning at like we got to

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be at the airport at like 430
and so I'm having trouble

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sleeping it's like three o'clock
in the morning and somebody just

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unloads both barrels like
somebody went nuts while we look

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in the paper the next morning or
on the news there was like a

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like a gang shooting a few
blocks away Yes somebody just

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drove by the house and just
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believe it was great and then
Merc kg has a wonderful

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wow alright so back to Curio
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Oh yeah, yeah,

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because this is what happens
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with me and I keep forgetting to
mention these things. So we

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caster RSS Jenny is like to call
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flawless we noticed one small
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changing in previous episodes
importing is hard it's all the

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problems in our in the import
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people want to start a feed with
this everything's groovy so we

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fixed that went back republished
a couple things. This is a

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phenomenal tool. It is
especially if you're testing

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stuff and just want to you know,
use your own feed whip up a test

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feed with some different
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stuff is in there you you can
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the in the channel values you
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episodes you have a starting
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changing that at the episode
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it's fast. It's very intuitive
once you get your head around it

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because you know it's nothing
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it's just it's i think is ready
for a hosting company to step up

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and let's connect this to an API

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Okay, so I got questions I got

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answers were Radio Shack baby

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Are you are you using it for no
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No agenda I've used it for no
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used it for the most recent mo
facts Yep. And yeah no I went

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all I went balls to the wall
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Sunday I think was the the first
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and you know how scary that can
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something up with a million
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Are you ready at any point to
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going like oh fuck man, I need
some help with something

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not not at the Russian tea room
you were on your own at that

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time I would have done it.
Melissa would have been pissed

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but I would have done it.

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I would not. I would have not
done that. No, I

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knew I knew you were gonna pull
the trigger on no agenda Sunday.

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I had I had to. So okay,
questions.

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Yes. Question number two. Is
there are you putting episode

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level splits in Yes, I am. This
show once which ones have them

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okay only. Right now only
podcasting. 2.0 has the episode

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level splits and what I did is I
went back and home I'm just

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gonna take a look here in the
fire up the Jenny. It needs a

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sound effect like a big
generator. Let's see. So I which

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is the one we had is the doggy
Which one do you have open was

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that 50? I

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can't remember no 50 Now that
was our anniversary show those

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Okay, so 5852 yeah okay yes 52
so I put Oaken in the person tag

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and then in the that's in the
value I've got four people in

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the episode level. And what's
cool about the value block

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editor is it has a little cheat
meter up top. So it was a total

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split percentage 100% total fee
percentage 5% and so if you if I

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put right now podcast index has
90% if I do that 95 then the

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split percentage goes red it
says 105 it I think it spits in

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your eye if you don't change it
eventually it goes you Yes, so

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dribs in there for the five I
put Curio caster in five not on

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the fee side he deserves it I we
didn't have a meeting I think we

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talked about it maybe

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though I see it here yeah it's
on the it's on the main page now

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like in the in the channel

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yeah no i levels Yeah, I changed
it in the channel now too. Yeah,

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come on, man. This thing is
beautiful. I was sad I got a

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spray some SATs all over the
place

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Okay, so we have we have Curio
caster supports item level

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value.

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That's the only one as far as I
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Brees is working on it. I think
I'm almost I'm almost 100%

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ROI he actually sent me an ROI
actually sent me a note Friday

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or Saturday because I was Dave
okay. As far as I know why?

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Well, I sent him an email he
hasn't answered usually he's so

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fast to answer. Simmer down
Donna Summer. Man has a life.

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Yes, he sent me a note this
morning. He's like, Hey man, I'm

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not trying to bug you. Unless
this fun is fun. I actually

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close telegram and it's just
been like, I don't think about

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looking at telegram it's been

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I hate I really hate telegram
it's really my least favorite

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thing I don't like how it works
I don't like I don't like the

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dislike of the big long stream
of stuff and I get anxious I see

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those 100 messages and I am out
of the loop.

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Yeah, cuz like I'm subscribed to
balance of satoshis channel 3500

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unread messages oh

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my god we're on flow Sunday and
you got to go turn off

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notifications for everything you
yeah because it bleep bloop your

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phone just dries horrible

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no experience but yeah, but I
think he said I've helped with

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the issue that he was having and
then he mentioned that they're

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they're working on the split Oh
cool. Good Yes. So they're the

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episode level splits once they
go into breeze then that's a big

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one because that's where a lot
of the Bitcoin Peter will listen

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and those are the other shows
that are probably the most

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likely to have them to begin
with

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right but it seems like
everybody should be able to

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implement pretty quickly

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I mean I would think i mean you
know everybody's kids a little

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different but it does it's not a
it doesn't seem like a hard one

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cuz you just override is a pure
override so when you when you do

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an episode level split you're
putting the whole thing in there

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right?

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Right so if I do an episode
level then what depends so the

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previous episode we didn't have
a special guest so that's just

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our our did we know we did have
a guest we had a cook but he

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didn't have a neither hasn't
have no right. So I just left it

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at the channel level. And the
way you do it is if you have a

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new episode, and you need to do
a split or you need to do custom

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persons, instead of re entering
my name again, and your name and

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our data I used to click
synchronize from the channel and

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brings it right over at the at
the item level setting so does

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that for person does it for
value. And you also have a

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channel image Sync button.

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It may hoisted up to the top
Yep. For the channel. Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm looking at this

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coolest shit, man. No. This is
what I always dreamed of. And it

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works and I'm sure no one else
will want to use it as usual.

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Some people use it when

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whenever I really love like
freedom controller to

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your horn in me out of my my
turfy.

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Steven B gets it. He's gonna
give you a run for the money on

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speed. I'll tell you that.

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Yeah, this is her. Grumpy I'm
grumpy. Why

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are you grumpy? I didn't mean to
make you grumpy.

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No, it's getting better stuff
than I do.

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Now. Now you, I will you and I,
we decided in our relationship.

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If we could see other people
this, if we could see other

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people will open. And, you know,
it's like I had already not been

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using your RSS generator for you
know, once or twice and you know

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now it's like now I'm with her,

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okay. You start you start off,
you start off swing in and then

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they fall in love and you never
see you

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never again. But we share
custody of comics through

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blogger. So that's the good
news.

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Yeah.

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I don't know where that came
from. But anyway, I think this

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thing is ready to talk to an API
at a hosting company.

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I need to I've got one question
though. I want I want to use

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this is Steven B is willing,
maybe we get him back on the

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show. I want I think this is the
perfect way to test bit to test

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bed. The live item, right?

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Okay, hashtag. Oh, yeah, of
course. Absolutely.

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So he can put us like put a live
beta,

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but you're, but you're, you're
hijacking the next step. I

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thought we were going to take
now you want to route around it

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and go live. We'll do it live.

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What's the next step? Well,

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the next step I was thinking get
a hosting company to integrate

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the API. So you upload the RSS
file and the mp3 file straight

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to your existing hosting
account.

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No, that's too hard. Because
that slows down my that slows

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down the thing I want. Which is
that makes me have to wait that

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makes me have to wait for stuff.

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All right, it and we'll do it
live. Okay. We'll do it live

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then. Would you live? Alright,
we'll do live.

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I want I want Okay, so I know
you want it bad. You

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want it bad. You want it? I feel
we can only do live under one

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condition. Because otherwise we
won't do it. Right? We have to

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have the booster grams. Working
when we use the live stuff.

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That's what you You took the
words, right? Yes,

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must have been while I was
kissing, you know, very lovely

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show today, Dave.

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It is it's in the air. So my
thought was that I'll make a

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proof of concept page. And it
will be something akin to troll

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room.io something like this. And
it will have the live it'll be

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the live stream message I want
to mark on a mock up a proof of

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concept Super Chat, okay. And
initially, it will only be it'll

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only show booster grams. So it
would be on the left side, it

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would be like the player like
the stream player, very simple,

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very skeleton. And then on the
right side, it would just be a

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booster gram chat, and there
will be no limit on it so that

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if you no matter how much if you
boost on the without a message

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or with a message either way, it
doesn't matter as long as it

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hits our, our node, it will come
through in it'll show, okay. And

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then we we do the live thing we
go. We go live, and then it and

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then at that point the node
switches to showing every boost

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that comes in. Be honest.

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Yeah, I'm all in. And we'll do
it on this show this show this

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show. We're going to live nice.
Are you ready for that? Son? You

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ready to graduate? You ready to
graduate?

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Yeah. No, I'm ready. I'm ready,
dad. I feel I feel good about

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this.

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grasshoppers. That's the pebble
from my hand. It's time to

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leave. Yeah, good idea. All
right. When are we doing it

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tomorrow?

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No, no, no, no, wait, no.

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So Stephen has to bake in the
live tag first.

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Yeah, and I have to do a bunch
code.

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Oh, so that slows everything
down. slows down the dream.

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Yep. You're coming back on me
and deserve it. But yes, yes, we

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I think that's the way I think
that's how we proof of concept.

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This thing

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was fantastic and be very
exciting.

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Then when we get them we can the
next step would be put the

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activity pub stuff on onto it.
As a proof of concept, I think

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we need this page. This live
page is like a testbed anchor.

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And where we can do new, we can
just like sort of sandbox these

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new things that we're trying to
do that because all this stuff

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is meant to be you know
community it's meant to be Super

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Chat ish. And so like what you
expect when you He's super

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chatty two things is you expect
to go to YouTube and expect to

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go to YouTube and see well you'd
see a video on there we're not

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going to do video but you would
see that and then you'd see the

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chats and all this kind of jazz
flying around expect that

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experience so I'm thinking we
just make that sandbox and then

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we begin to put in these things
as we get them working in in in

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like as a as a way to show
everybody and have something to

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visualize and comment on and
everybody's like hey this was

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cool but let's try to do this
try to do this if your activity

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pub stream is coming you know
from from this other these other

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sources they should come
together in this way and bla bla

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bla bla bla

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What do you think? I love it I
mean it's it that will in an odd

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way will will create a cross app
chat in a very weird way in a

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very jacked kind of bootstrap
way yeah that's fantastic let's

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do it

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no new to YouTube Super Chat
thing is kind of like this just

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wanted to do the same thing
Yeah, well well I mean

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specifically like you're seeing
you're seeing the chats go by

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dinner this the normal comments
but then you see the ones that

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are the paid

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well that's most hosts only look
at that they're only looking at

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the Super Chat because there's
too much going on in the regular

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in the in the pledge chat. Okay
Oh yeah damn done with a bite

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you as a viewer you see it all
yeah. So

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I'm thinking that the activity
pub or matrix or what whatever

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we're going to use for me
activity pub makes most sense.

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Whenever we're going to use for
the chat or the comment these

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are comments Okay, comments, not
chat comments, whatever wording

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you use for the comments on the
page that's coming that can be

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coming from from other places
activity or I understand I

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understand and in the end in the
booster grams the boosts come in

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and they're denoted by some
special you know visual

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appearance and so we're

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going to clearly need a confetti
splooge

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Yeah. Speaking this confetti
splooge cast ematic Franco he

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put the he put the confetti

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oh good I don't have iOS anymore
so I'm a little bummed

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Oh dude, you should see it he
did a really good job you hit

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that you hit it and confetti
just like explodes the page and

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then it just sort of lingered

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Oh slow float nice Yes.

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fades away

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Oh cool.

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Good just riding here we're
gonna have him on the show soon

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we got to get Brian in London Oh
first

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I was I was all excited about
the breeze boost and so you know

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it's a fire up the new the new
version of breeze and I like Why

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can't I get to the booster gram
and I just see confetti flying

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all over the place because I'm
holding down the boost boost

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button thinking that that's the
same behavior as pod friend and

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Curio caster okay said I'm
sending you know boom boom boom

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1010 boosts in a row 1000 SAS
wallet you know how you do like

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did you hold down the phone on
your phone camera too long

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shutter that was I was literally
spraying SATs like like the

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Southside of Chicago

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that podcaster was like God I'm
really popular today. My shows

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taken off

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this is like here's here's Adam
using here's Adam using a breeze

452
00:28:53,730 --> 00:28:59,340
as me that's in there though.
That I'm really happy about

453
00:28:59,340 --> 00:29:03,990
that. That's very cool. And then
of course this drops Yeah, I

454
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:10,410
guess yesterday. The lightning
connecting to or really more the

455
00:29:10,410 --> 00:29:17,190
lightning strike the strike API?
Connect with Twitter. Yeah, it's

456
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:19,290
kind of interesting. I mean,
it's iOS only from what I

457
00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:23,340
understand. Again, can purchase
or won't participate in that.

458
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,490
I'm sure you've tried it.

459
00:29:27,690 --> 00:29:31,440
I've tried a lot yeah. made it a
personal goal to get very

460
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,380
familiar with it as fast as
possible last night so I could

461
00:29:34,380 --> 00:29:35,010
speak to it.

462
00:29:35,070 --> 00:29:38,460
Tell us what's going on what
what exactly is is it it seems

463
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:41,940
like it's a little hacky, but
it's a nice it's a step in the

464
00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:42,720
right direction.

465
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:49,080
So I spent a summit today just
sort of pondering it and and in

466
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,770
thinking about to get because,
like jazz over at lightning

467
00:29:52,770 --> 00:29:56,820
junkies podcast he's. I was
supposed to be on his show last

468
00:29:56,820 --> 00:30:00,990
night, and it didn't work out
his timing. Got it all the way

469
00:30:00,990 --> 00:30:04,410
but actually I was on the ipfs
podcast Wednesday night.

470
00:30:04,830 --> 00:30:07,050
Did you talk for a moment first
with those guys?

471
00:30:07,470 --> 00:30:14,460
I brought up crater Earth. Oh
good. Yeah, it was like he was

472
00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:16,770
like yeah you're

473
00:30:16,770 --> 00:30:17,550
advanced

474
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:21,390
Have you heard of crater Earth?
He's like no

475
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:25,680
we're talking about the
announced with the Twitter we'll

476
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:31,770
be using the lightning network
I'm just gonna paraphrase it for

477
00:30:31,770 --> 00:30:35,670
people to send little bits of
Bitcoin satoshis to each other

478
00:30:35,670 --> 00:30:40,920
via Twitter. Word tipping is
used which I prefer not to use

479
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,730
but Okay, so just just the
background for anyone who has no

480
00:30:44,730 --> 00:30:45,900
idea we're talking about.

481
00:30:46,259 --> 00:30:50,699
Yeah, so I just thought a lot
about it today and Chaz over at

482
00:30:50,699 --> 00:30:53,129
lining junkies he has been
posting a lot saying this is

483
00:30:53,129 --> 00:30:56,429
crap you know this this sucks
and

484
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,410
like his voice very well.

485
00:30:58,830 --> 00:31:02,790
Yeah, that's exactly what I
know. And he's he's Bay's

486
00:31:02,790 --> 00:31:08,280
argument is basically that this
is all custodial. No, I'm sure

487
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,300
it is. You bring in you're
saying it's lightning but it's

488
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:16,500
all custodial. So you know
you're not really doing

489
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:22,530
lightning or whatever. And in
wilo I mean, I'm sort of

490
00:31:22,530 --> 00:31:26,160
understanding of that argument.
But so I thought about it a lot

491
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,400
today trying to figure out what
Where do I fall on this and

492
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:32,490
well how about telling us how it
fits together first what what

493
00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:36,210
exactly how do you do it? What
how does it work and then let's

494
00:31:36,210 --> 00:31:38,130
talk about the religion of it.

495
00:31:38,670 --> 00:31:43,530
Okay, so take first in religion.
So the way it works is it's a

496
00:31:43,530 --> 00:31:49,800
euridice iOS only. And from the
receiver side, if I'm going to

497
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,880
what you do is you go in there
on your iOS app, Twitter app,

498
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,290
and you go to your profile page
and there is a thing that says

499
00:31:58,290 --> 00:32:00,000
tips and

500
00:32:01,260 --> 00:32:04,200
cringe I'm sorry, keep going
take a drink

501
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,910
of water tips and then you you
hit it and it takes you to a

502
00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:17,040
separate page and you enable
lightning tipping and it gives

503
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,450
you one it gives you one option

504
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,030
one option one wallet option and
that strike

505
00:32:24,330 --> 00:32:27,900
this is gonna be really hard to
not say to

506
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,320
say okay, I'll just drink
silently every time

507
00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:38,070
so you you enable that and
you're One option is to is a

508
00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:43,560
strike wallet and you put in
your strike username, which is

509
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,260
your wallet name like a cash app
handle, you know, it's your

510
00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:50,760
strike handle. So you put that
in and it's like okay, you're

511
00:32:51,210 --> 00:32:54,060
done. I mean that's literally
all there is to it you put that

512
00:32:54,060 --> 00:32:57,240
in and that's where all your
funds are gonna land whenever

513
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,600
somebody sends you lightning
it's gonna land there

514
00:33:00,630 --> 00:33:03,810
so so basically what this does
if I could just boil it down

515
00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:04,770
from my understanding

516
00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:06,900
on their own this on the
receiver side

517
00:33:06,930 --> 00:33:10,920
well so so you have a strike
account and you have your

518
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,610
username and so once you have
enabled this then something pops

519
00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:18,450
up next year your avatar your
profile that I'm sure says

520
00:33:18,450 --> 00:33:20,520
something like tip me

521
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,860
No no no no it's a little dollar
bill icon shows up

522
00:33:25,949 --> 00:33:30,479
broadness. $1 bill Okay, hello
tone deaf anybody?

523
00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:34,710
Other bill let me look it looks
like $1 sure it's

524
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:40,710
not a B with a with a line
through it. Anyway, so all

525
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:45,180
right, let's look at this little
Pete little pig with a coin in

526
00:33:45,180 --> 00:33:50,820
his back because that's that's
that's the spin that I'm going

527
00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:53,280
to religion already. I'm sorry.
I'm just stay with the tech.

528
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,640
Okay. Okay. So it surfaces a
button and then you click it and

529
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,260
then it's like a booster gram
maybe where you can customize

530
00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:04,680
the amount and and the message
at that point or not.

531
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:08,010
Okay, I'm looking at it it is it
does look like $1. And it's,

532
00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:11,730
it's right up at the top next to
your avatar. So if you see some

533
00:34:11,730 --> 00:34:16,320
Yeah, so if you see somebody
that has that icon, you can you

534
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,000
can tap it and it brings up it
brings up a screen and the

535
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,270
screen gives you a bunch of
options. I'm looking at it right

536
00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:29,700
now. Yet $1 $2 $3 $5 and the sad
amount is underneath each one of

537
00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:35,640
these oh that's that's something
yes is one dollars, 22,329 SATs

538
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,340
blah, blah, blah all the way up
to $10 and then there's a custom

539
00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:42,540
amount and then you can just
type in whatever you want. So

540
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:46,560
then you hit this I'm going to
do I'm going to do $1 here and

541
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,920
I'm hitting next unless you put
a note on it. Let's attach a

542
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:55,200
note, booster gram and then you
you have two options at the

543
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,970
bottom. Underneath the text box
area. You've got open wallet or

544
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,240
Copy wallet address. If you hit
open wallet, it just opens up

545
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:11,670
whatever lightning wallet is
registered on your device to be

546
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:19,500
able to handle invoices. ln ln
bc invoices got it in my case on

547
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:23,010
mic in my case that's that's a
breeze it opens up the breeze

548
00:35:23,010 --> 00:35:27,180
wallet every time if you hit
copy wallet address it copies

549
00:35:27,180 --> 00:35:28,080
the invoice

550
00:35:28,649 --> 00:35:32,879
wait a minute wait a minute so
it opened it doesn't open strike

551
00:35:32,879 --> 00:35:34,139
it opens breeze

552
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:39,120
for me It opens breeze Yes. But
you have to use strike to sign

553
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,270
up you have to use strikes and
that's why that was talking

554
00:35:42,270 --> 00:35:45,060
about as a there's a real
difference between the receiving

555
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:45,900
and the sending.

556
00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:51,570
Receiving is always going to be
on your strike. Sending can be

557
00:35:51,570 --> 00:35:55,470
from anything so I should be
able to just find someone now

558
00:35:55,470 --> 00:35:58,890
you have it on the podcast
index.org Twitter account.

559
00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:01,140
Yes, I do.

560
00:36:01,230 --> 00:36:04,800
Okay, so let me just see. Would
you want to live people

561
00:36:04,890 --> 00:36:07,590
that members iOS only you're not
even going to see the icon

562
00:36:07,590 --> 00:36:08,700
unless you're on iOS.

563
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,500
This is discrimination.

564
00:36:11,099 --> 00:36:16,619
It is the hate you. This is
discrimination? Are you bitter?

565
00:36:17,730 --> 00:36:18,660
Somewhat.

566
00:36:19,980 --> 00:36:23,280
I don't blame you actually. It
is gonna feel like Cridland.

567
00:36:23,370 --> 00:36:27,360
I guess. He's always he's always
bitching about everything being

568
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,190
in the US and iOS only.

569
00:36:30,210 --> 00:36:34,170
Well, okay, so on on the
receiving side. Yes. It's always

570
00:36:34,170 --> 00:36:38,940
strike on the sending side. You
it will open up whatever you

571
00:36:39,540 --> 00:36:43,260
find. Or you can just copy and
paste the invoice got any

572
00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:43,740
wallet.

573
00:36:44,370 --> 00:36:47,940
Well, that will okay.
Interesting. So let me see

574
00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:52,320
podcast index. Yeah, you got no
dollar bill, man, I see no

575
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,970
dollar bill, no dollar because

576
00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:57,690
you're not on iOS. Like I'm
saying you got you. You

577
00:36:57,690 --> 00:36:59,820
don't have to yell at me because
I'm not an iOS.

578
00:37:01,710 --> 00:37:05,280
Okay, wait, this is an
interesting, I'm curious about

579
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:11,220
this. If I copied the invoice
out, really, anybody should be

580
00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:12,240
able to pay this right?

581
00:37:13,889 --> 00:37:18,539
So you have the invoice for me
and send me that send it to me

582
00:37:18,539 --> 00:37:22,889
on the signal on the signals.
And then I can I can open it up

583
00:37:22,889 --> 00:37:23,459
right away.

584
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,470
And

585
00:37:25,590 --> 00:37:26,130
see if I can

586
00:37:26,130 --> 00:37:29,880
I'm going to paste this tip you
know, this isn't this isn't to

587
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:35,310
me this is to Lake you and on
its adult for $1.

588
00:37:35,849 --> 00:37:38,009
Okay, well, it's just it's just
just a wonder it looks like a

589
00:37:38,009 --> 00:37:40,919
standard like sandbox. Let me
just see what it what it pops up

590
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:49,200
on. And it's so if I'm wondering
if you paid if Yeah, yeah,

591
00:37:49,230 --> 00:37:51,780
anybody could pay that. And then
it would show. That's okay. So

592
00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:55,590
that's the interesting thing
about this. There's a bunch of

593
00:37:55,590 --> 00:38:00,660
interesting things about it.
Number one, is from my side on

594
00:38:00,660 --> 00:38:01,830
stream 332

595
00:38:01,829 --> 00:38:04,889
sets, that's what you that's
what you put in there.

596
00:38:05,579 --> 00:38:14,009
Yes, like about, okay. So, if I
send, if somebody sends me, if

597
00:38:14,009 --> 00:38:16,289
I'm looking through my strike
history and seeing the payments

598
00:38:16,289 --> 00:38:20,549
that have come in, there's no
names or anything attached to

599
00:38:20,549 --> 00:38:25,559
it. They're all anonymous. The
only way I know that's from the

600
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:30,389
strike wallet side. If I flip
over to Twitter, I see your

601
00:38:30,389 --> 00:38:35,099
bowels actions and transactions
and who sent them? Yeah, in my

602
00:38:35,099 --> 00:38:39,359
notifications, it says, you
know, Gary aren't since you sent

603
00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:46,349
you $2 boombox podcast since you
won $5 it shows each person in

604
00:38:46,349 --> 00:38:48,509
what they sent but from the
strike app it doesn't it's like

605
00:38:48,509 --> 00:38:52,499
it doesn't know. Yeah, and which
makes sense. Yeah,

606
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,310
it just comes into me so there's
no there's no other data being

607
00:38:56,310 --> 00:39:01,020
sent the note? tlvs airgo less
sophisticated as booster grams

608
00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:02,070
But okay, I digress.

609
00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:04,560
No, it can't touch poster
grants. pictograms are way more

610
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,150
sophisticated. Yeah. This is
these are new noobs

611
00:39:10,619 --> 00:39:14,849
new on the scene why Jack's
young? He's a young man. He is

612
00:39:14,849 --> 00:39:15,269
he is.

613
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:22,769
So that's interesting to me
because that means that

614
00:39:22,769 --> 00:39:28,619
everything is going pure
lightning and from the Twitter

615
00:39:28,619 --> 00:39:33,509
and from the receiver side. It
makes a lot of sense for them to

616
00:39:33,539 --> 00:39:38,909
limit the reception to just
strike a lot of sense because

617
00:39:38,970 --> 00:39:42,060
oh no, that it'll be such a
headache otherwise now it's just

618
00:39:42,090 --> 00:39:44,670
one person's headache and it's
of course it's it's a complete

619
00:39:44,670 --> 00:39:47,340
centralized solution. I
understand why people are

620
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,620
disappointed but no,

621
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:53,670
I see. I think it's I think it
was pure utilitarian. That's

622
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:56,940
what I'm saying. I don't I think
you have to, because for one

623
00:39:56,940 --> 00:40:01,950
reason, liquidity. Yep. Strike.
Has the liquidity they have the

624
00:40:01,950 --> 00:40:04,890
channels with the liquidity to
be able to handle this this

625
00:40:04,890 --> 00:40:09,030
volume of have they otherwise
people would be trying to pay

626
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:12,240
other people and their payments
will be failing for reason

627
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:16,380
because this guy only has a you
know 120 5000 sat channel to

628
00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:19,200
some rando is wouldn't work

629
00:40:19,230 --> 00:40:23,730
right so so what we are all
expecting to happen of course is

630
00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:29,910
for eventually that setting in
your app to open up to you can

631
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:36,240
add any lightning node to it yes
then then that would be then as

632
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:40,140
far as I'm concerned problem
solves anyone who's has an issue

633
00:40:40,140 --> 00:40:41,760
this that would be fantastic.

634
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,530
I don't I mean, I think it makes
I don't see how they don't do

635
00:40:46,530 --> 00:40:47,310
that. I mean,

636
00:40:47,490 --> 00:40:51,330
well I I'm sure there's gonna be
shit coins in there and all

637
00:40:51,330 --> 00:40:53,670
kinds of different stuff that do
all kinds of different

638
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:57,300
solutions, I would presume I
mean, although I don't know I

639
00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:57,450
don't

640
00:40:57,450 --> 00:41:03,300
know. So the other the other
part that's interesting to me is

641
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:03,540
that

642
00:41:03,570 --> 00:41:06,240
by the way that there was no
marketing or PR for this it was

643
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,240
really very under the radar
launch.

644
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:11,159
I think so too. Yeah.

645
00:41:11,790 --> 00:41:16,800
And understandably so I mean it
matters excuse me got a slot on

646
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:21,720
you know on msnbc he always
really always shows up there and

647
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,330
he's really good he's he
explains it really well. He does

648
00:41:24,330 --> 00:41:25,020
a good job.

649
00:41:25,799 --> 00:41:29,099
Isn't that his his dad like a
hedge fund guy or something? So

650
00:41:29,099 --> 00:41:32,369
he's probably got some
connections to the press. No, I

651
00:41:32,369 --> 00:41:35,039
said, I think his family is
connected with some hedge fund

652
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:42,989
stuff. But yeah, so that that
was that was that was

653
00:41:42,989 --> 00:41:46,709
interesting in it because it
does look like pure it doesn't

654
00:41:46,709 --> 00:41:49,709
look like pure lightning. If
you're looking at it from the

655
00:41:49,709 --> 00:41:55,679
receiver side. Now it sucks that
it's not global yet. And I don't

656
00:41:55,679 --> 00:42:01,499
think the global aspect of it
has anything to do with strike

657
00:42:01,769 --> 00:42:06,989
because this on the sending side
it doesn't matter right? As far

658
00:42:06,989 --> 00:42:07,499
as like well,

659
00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:11,640
but it's just handing off an
invoice that's all that's all

660
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,700
the Twitter's do and it's really
nothing special. It's just a

661
00:42:16,170 --> 00:42:20,640
widely used invoicing, you know,
creation system, kind of a front

662
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,900
end, right. And, yeah, so and I
understand that for it to work,

663
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:28,770
they have to work with partners
like that. But definitely open

664
00:42:28,770 --> 00:42:32,010
it up for everybody. And you
know, consider us plebs over

665
00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:33,540
here and graphene Oh, s land.

666
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:38,340
Well, the other interesting
thing about it to me is that

667
00:42:38,340 --> 00:42:44,370
they is that they did not try to
do anything special for the

668
00:42:44,370 --> 00:42:49,650
cinder. They're essentially
like, what they what they've

669
00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:52,920
done is they've created they've
created strike API integration

670
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,880
on the receiver side. And on the
sending side, they're just like,

671
00:42:57,330 --> 00:42:58,440
here's an invoice.

672
00:42:59,370 --> 00:43:03,180
Doesn't it automatically open up
the strike wallet if you if you

673
00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:04,170
have that installed?

674
00:43:05,010 --> 00:43:07,650
It probably would, but I guess
what I'm saying is, is they're

675
00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:09,510
not they've done no attempt

676
00:43:09,540 --> 00:43:12,510
or they're not taking you down a
path to onboard you to any apps

677
00:43:12,510 --> 00:43:13,560
or anything like that.

678
00:43:13,830 --> 00:43:16,440
No, none of that. No, they've
not they're not converting for

679
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:23,280
Fiat, or any they've done no
onboarding of the of the, the

680
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:29,460
sender to the lightning network
in a way that like, you can't

681
00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:34,770
say you can't do dollars. It's
all they just assume that if

682
00:43:34,770 --> 00:43:37,770
you're going to send it to this
person that you're just gonna

683
00:43:37,770 --> 00:43:39,060
have to figure it out on your
own.

684
00:43:39,420 --> 00:43:43,800
Oh, that sounds a lot like our
marketing. Exactly. In fact, I

685
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,510
have I have a clip of how our
marketing succeeded. This is

686
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,040
from the mere mortals podcast
and kyron is that how we

687
00:43:53,040 --> 00:44:00,240
pronounce his name Carmen kyron
was talking to James Cridland

688
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,160
James Chrism was on a lot of
podcasts

689
00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:05,279
I listened to this week. That
was a really good interview.

690
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,600
Yeah, it was and so they're
standing by I think a sludge or

691
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,990
sewage river I could hear with
like seagulls and smelled really

692
00:44:12,990 --> 00:44:17,850
bad. But then I haven't said
this thankfully

693
00:44:17,850 --> 00:44:21,750
you offhandedly mentioned the
the podcasting 2.0 which I

694
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:26,400
thought was the way you set it
at the moment was I think that

695
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,440
just introduced the value for
value and breeze. Yes. Yeah. So

696
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,760
the way you said it made me just
think like, I put my podcast on

697
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,570
there. And Adam Curry pays me
Bitcoin or something like that,

698
00:44:39,570 --> 00:44:43,860
like, get in my head how this
whole thing would work. So I

699
00:44:43,860 --> 00:44:46,470
thought it was the biggest
scammy bullshit, and then I'd

700
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:46,830
heard

701
00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:49,380
That's awesome.

702
00:44:50,340 --> 00:44:54,360
And I appreciate however, James
Cridland converted him with

703
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,070
whatever marketing he gave him.
It maybe it was maybe that's the

704
00:44:59,070 --> 00:45:02,220
way to go like it Hey can I get
a Bitcoin from Adam Curry I'll

705
00:45:02,220 --> 00:45:03,240
try this stuff out

706
00:45:04,469 --> 00:45:07,379
that's that's the way we should
have onboarded everybody just

707
00:45:07,379 --> 00:45:08,129
you just pay him

708
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:10,859
yeah and I will be one of those
guys who shows up in your in

709
00:45:10,859 --> 00:45:14,669
your Twitter timeline you know
get free and get free Bitcoin

710
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:16,259
airdrop

711
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,530
that's the that would have made
the technology so much simpler.

712
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,210
Oh yes in an invoice to Adam.

713
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:30,630
Hey everybody isn't perfect I
thought there was right well

714
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:32,910
yeah so okay, that's very
interesting that they that they

715
00:45:32,910 --> 00:45:35,610
chose to do that or not to do
that and depending on how you

716
00:45:35,610 --> 00:45:36,270
look at it,

717
00:45:36,659 --> 00:45:41,759
I was selfishly hoping, hoping
that they would like create this

718
00:45:41,819 --> 00:45:46,529
fancy onboarding system to go
from Fiat to lightning so that

719
00:45:46,529 --> 00:45:50,999
we could then bounce off of that
and tell people to go use their

720
00:45:50,999 --> 00:45:54,569
Twitter wallet and all this kind
of jazz. So I was a little

721
00:45:54,569 --> 00:45:57,089
disappointed that that didn't
happen but then on the dyno, the

722
00:45:57,089 --> 00:45:58,019
more I thought about it, I was
like,

723
00:45:58,020 --> 00:46:00,330
No, no, I see that we'll go
ahead. I see. This is what

724
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:06,060
sort of validates our hesitancy
like even if Twitter even is

725
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:09,810
hesitant to onboard people like
me that maybe we're not so

726
00:46:09,810 --> 00:46:11,040
schlubs after all.

727
00:46:11,070 --> 00:46:13,650
Well, here's what I like about
it. The perfect way to get

728
00:46:13,650 --> 00:46:19,080
people to at least have a
wallet. So to get the onboarding

729
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,260
part is to go get your Twitter
wallet, which we will just call

730
00:46:22,260 --> 00:46:24,570
Twitter wallet from now on.
Sorry, jack, but just for

731
00:46:24,570 --> 00:46:27,960
purposes of marketing, get your
Twitter wallet right there, and

732
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,410
we'll explain how you do it. Oh,
you're on Android. No podcast

733
00:46:31,410 --> 00:46:37,470
for you. Once you've got that,
then you sign up over here. And

734
00:46:37,470 --> 00:46:42,690
then every time there's 100,000
satoshis in your in your

735
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:51,570
complete custodial podcast,
index ln pay 1099 system then

736
00:46:51,570 --> 00:46:56,400
we'll shove it out to your
Twitter wallet. Not like it and

737
00:46:56,460 --> 00:47:00,810
and how about so here's the real
envoy if you so that's for

738
00:47:00,810 --> 00:47:04,710
podcasters but for podcast
listener, oh, just get your

739
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:10,770
Twitter wallet and income come
back here and scan this code. Is

740
00:47:10,770 --> 00:47:14,490
this a scanning work? Yeah, it
works on Stryker. You can do

741
00:47:14,490 --> 00:47:18,300
scan you can scan a invoice.
Yeah. So just set of stripes and

742
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:23,490
get your Twitter wallet. That's
it. Problem solved. Create a

743
00:47:23,490 --> 00:47:28,680
jack, jack and Jack's Twitter
wallet. Same guy one of the one

744
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,850
of the jacks. We're all jacked
up. Yeah. I really did screw up

745
00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:35,880
I might have to go back in and
do the intro game. Except then,

746
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:40,020
you know, like, talk over me do
an insert all jacked up, you

747
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:42,120
know, just insert that instead
of lightning strikes.

748
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:50,490
Yeah, just dump it in. Well,

749
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:56,730
Wow, did you have one of those?
Yeah, that was just right. And

750
00:47:56,730 --> 00:47:59,850
that now did yours do
synchronize pause?

751
00:48:00,750 --> 00:48:01,260
No, no.

752
00:48:01,590 --> 00:48:05,040
I love I think I Chi that did
that synchronize?

753
00:48:05,429 --> 00:48:07,679
No, you had to you had to use
both hands. You know,

754
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,560
we used to use those things in
the in the in the heyday of the

755
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:15,180
radio pirate radio. So we didn't
we didn't have card machines and

756
00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:20,790
jingle machines. You know, we
had it just think anything is

757
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:23,220
interesting if I'm just gonna
tell you it's technology. Okay.

758
00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:25,770
This is technology. Yeah, it's
technology. Yeah. Okay.

759
00:48:25,860 --> 00:48:26,700
I love radio talk.

760
00:48:26,730 --> 00:48:29,280
The first time you say with the
turntables, the way we had the

761
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:35,490
turntables is it was no. This
was before. This before

762
00:48:35,490 --> 00:48:38,940
techniques were even around. So
we had lenco different kinds of

763
00:48:39,060 --> 00:48:44,370
Philips, maybe something was
robust. You'd put a 12 inch it

764
00:48:44,370 --> 00:48:48,390
didn't want any more than we had
a felt mat but it was oversized,

765
00:48:48,420 --> 00:48:52,230
it would stick out by maybe
three quarters of an inch kind

766
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:55,380
of hanging over the edge of
that, then we'd put it we'd

767
00:48:55,380 --> 00:49:00,840
mount a relay on the side. And
when the relay was powered, it

768
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,550
would it would grasp the mat
like a little claw. And so the

769
00:49:05,550 --> 00:49:08,460
turntable is turning albeit a
little bit slower from the

770
00:49:08,460 --> 00:49:12,330
fiction but it's already up to
speed because the minute you the

771
00:49:12,330 --> 00:49:15,000
way we have is you open up the
fader on the mixer a little

772
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,740
micro switch and triggered the
you know broke the circuit the

773
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:25,560
relay flips open the slip mat
catches and within like one and

774
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,550
a half second is up to speed you
can still hear in the old days.

775
00:49:29,580 --> 00:49:33,480
You can hear some of these
recordings were that have the

776
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:36,390
record queued up too tight and
it would go it would kind of

777
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:41,850
start like really rude when you
get up to speed. Yeah, so we

778
00:49:41,850 --> 00:49:44,730
built that that's how that's how
we had the that's how we did we

779
00:49:44,730 --> 00:49:48,330
didn't have fast starting
turntables or anything like that

780
00:49:48,330 --> 00:49:50,370
it took some time for this thing
to get up to speed.

781
00:49:50,579 --> 00:49:52,499
You get a gin enough it's like
the monitor it's like the

782
00:49:52,529 --> 00:49:55,379
monochrome monitor coming on the
you know with the green has to

783
00:49:55,379 --> 00:49:56,939
fade in you know exactly.

784
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:03,029
A little burn in there. And so
then for the instead of jingle

785
00:50:03,029 --> 00:50:07,139
machines we didn't have we
create our own cassette tapes so

786
00:50:07,139 --> 00:50:11,249
we only took you know let's say
we had like it was just a 32nd

787
00:50:11,279 --> 00:50:15,149
really would be only 30 seconds
or maybe three minutes and the

788
00:50:15,149 --> 00:50:19,709
way you do it is you'd cut off
the leader tape and you have to

789
00:50:19,709 --> 00:50:22,979
open up the accent To do this
you cut off the leader tape and

790
00:50:23,399 --> 00:50:26,069
and then you know so that's the
little clear the clear section

791
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:27,869
and clear section Yeah, you
can't have that so you can

792
00:50:27,869 --> 00:50:30,659
rewind it all the way and then
hit pause and play at the same

793
00:50:30,659 --> 00:50:34,409
time you unpause it boom it
starts playing right away. Or,

794
00:50:34,709 --> 00:50:37,439
and this is the way we did it.
Sometimes if we didn't have

795
00:50:37,439 --> 00:50:41,129
enough time or you know,
cassettes were costly. You'd

796
00:50:41,129 --> 00:50:44,999
record a couple on them and then
you'd play the cassette and the

797
00:50:44,999 --> 00:50:49,769
minute it started you hit play
they hit pause he rejected put a

798
00:50:49,769 --> 00:50:58,169
pencil in turn it back a quarter
and require play and pause yeah

799
00:50:58,169 --> 00:51:01,949
man that's how late at night
that's right that's for radio

800
00:51:01,949 --> 00:51:02,759
yeah

801
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:06,119
damn I can't find a pencil

802
00:51:06,330 --> 00:51:09,180
oh no we had pencils we had
pencils pens anything give me

803
00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:10,350
something to turn this thing
back

804
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,750
That's awesome. Yeah, that's
that the people I was trying to

805
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:19,590
explain to my kids the other day
about marigold my youngest I was

806
00:51:19,590 --> 00:51:20,430
trying to explain to her

807
00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:25,140
Her name is Tamara gold. Mira go
marigold. Nice name two

808
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:28,139
things. So we was trying to
explain to her that with an

809
00:51:28,139 --> 00:51:28,919
eight track

810
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,600
is your son's name tulip.

811
00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:40,560
Now the with an eight track you,
you had to you had to rewind,

812
00:51:40,770 --> 00:51:42,900
you had to flip to the other
side. Listen to a little bit of

813
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:45,690
that music until I get back to
the place where he had to flip

814
00:51:45,690 --> 00:51:46,110
back.

815
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,300
Right? Exactly. Well then later
we started using eight tracks in

816
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:56,970
the same way except we had that
two jacket so the the wheel

817
00:51:56,970 --> 00:52:00,480
would come out and you have to
cut a hole in the eight track.

818
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,050
It was a whole procedure. That's
also thank God for digital. This

819
00:52:04,050 --> 00:52:06,930
is all that stuff. We had to
connect in our head to make it

820
00:52:06,930 --> 00:52:10,110
all work. These weird little
Rube Goldberg systems.

821
00:52:10,260 --> 00:52:13,260
Yeah, thank God for digital but
also something gets lost in that

822
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:19,560
I mean I'm missing. Like, when
you when you made back in back

823
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,800
in the day when you made a
mixtape for somebody?

824
00:52:23,579 --> 00:52:28,919
You would spend somebody
somebody Dave. Dave,

825
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,970
when you made a mixtape for you
for your special, very special,

826
00:52:33,330 --> 00:52:34,170
special girl,

827
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:39,210
okay, we're going back in time
remembering the mixtapes

828
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,160
on your Maxwell

829
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:43,440
gold max

830
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,170
Maxwell edk baby

831
00:52:46,619 --> 00:52:47,999
okay well you're TDK

832
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,240
when you met TDK metal metal oh

833
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:55,830
yeah yeah, it's you know it has
special special sauce sounded

834
00:52:55,830 --> 00:52:57,630
like iron oxide sounded

835
00:52:57,630 --> 00:53:00,690
crappy I'd never liked too much
high end the

836
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,580
you lovingly created that thing
over the course of you know a

837
00:53:05,580 --> 00:53:08,520
week because you had to wait for
the song to come on the radio

838
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:08,760
and

839
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:13,680
Tamar Tamar DJ me and we talked
through the intro

840
00:53:14,369 --> 00:53:17,339
every now and then though you
could catch one where they would

841
00:53:17,339 --> 00:53:19,799
play that in the rotation and
maybe the DJ had to go the

842
00:53:19,799 --> 00:53:23,699
bathroom so he just fired up and
cheat Yeah, so you get the you

843
00:53:23,699 --> 00:53:26,729
get the beginning and then you
could you know you get that one

844
00:53:26,729 --> 00:53:30,089
that one's clean. So then you
then you can make your other he

845
00:53:30,089 --> 00:53:33,899
had cassettes the whole process
you spend all this time creating

846
00:53:33,899 --> 00:53:37,289
this this wonderful mixtape and
then you physically handed

847
00:53:37,289 --> 00:53:43,079
handed to her Yeah. To your to
your girl. And that was like

848
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:46,319
that was special. She had she
had something in her hands.

849
00:53:46,379 --> 00:53:51,239
Yeah, that you created, you
know, and then, but now like,

850
00:53:51,269 --> 00:53:53,729
what are you going to text her a
playlist on Spotify.

851
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,010
Now here's a boost to grit.
Here's a boost to Graham

852
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,420
goodbye. Well, that's

853
00:53:59,790 --> 00:54:00,810
a boost to my playlist.

854
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:05,669
Here we go. Todd, I understand.
I understand. That's different.

855
00:54:05,669 --> 00:54:08,009
Now. It's different. But the
kids they don't know. They don't

856
00:54:08,009 --> 00:54:10,349
know what they're missing. Then
you know what, we are just too

857
00:54:10,349 --> 00:54:17,069
old, rolled cranky dudes now.
How much better my day? My day.

858
00:54:17,069 --> 00:54:25,799
We didn't have Perl. Python. We
had. What's the we had

859
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:29,729
Microsoft? We had the Microsoft
Access database. And that's what

860
00:54:29,729 --> 00:54:30,569
we live with.

861
00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:35,010
Remember c Pan? No, I saw your
pro module.

862
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,560
C pass. I'm sure it is. Yeah.
Someone will comment on it. No

863
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,840
doubt. Yeah. All right. So well,
good. So this since we're able

864
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,140
to joke about it, and you know,
maybe it'll be something. I do

865
00:54:49,140 --> 00:54:53,730
have an older iOS thing. I just
I have a real principled I'm

866
00:54:53,730 --> 00:54:56,310
getting very I'm getting very
principled in my old age.

867
00:54:57,090 --> 00:54:59,820
We'll just wait till it comes to
Android. They said it would be

868
00:54:59,820 --> 00:54:59,970
so

869
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,320
I'm sure it will I'm sure it
will

870
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:05,430
but um but I'm bullish on it i
mean i think oh

871
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:08,880
no I think it's good and of
course you know what a lot of

872
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:15,360
it's a long road we got to take
so I just don't know we too had

873
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,320
to kind of get over the
custodial versus non custodial

874
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,470
issue and the more you look at
it you know, there's there's

875
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:25,470
different scenarios and
different cases where it just

876
00:55:25,470 --> 00:55:29,550
makes a lot of sense. By the way
I'm I'm so convinced Elon bits

877
00:55:29,610 --> 00:55:33,300
is something I should be able to
use and figure out case and and

878
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:37,200
I have multiple wallets on my
own node. I just haven't figured

879
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,260
it all out yet. But there's,
there's ways there's got to be a

880
00:55:40,260 --> 00:55:42,480
home kit to this one day soon.

881
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:52,650
Well, you know, I think that I
think that ultimately Twitter

882
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,650
you know, Twitter is laying the
groundwork for people to have

883
00:55:55,650 --> 00:55:59,340
the understanding of what this
stuff even is and you know, when

884
00:55:59,610 --> 00:56:04,860
it puts it puts things into the
lexicon and that's a big deal by

885
00:56:04,860 --> 00:56:10,380
itself you know, because people
don't even understand it's hard

886
00:56:10,380 --> 00:56:13,260
to go from not even
understanding and not ever even

887
00:56:13,260 --> 00:56:16,530
hearing the word blinding or
strike or any of these things

888
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:20,100
and the fact that they're
willing to do this when they

889
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:23,220
actually own cash app and all
this kind of stuff. I mean,

890
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:30,750
that's that's a big deal to me
it it overall shows me that that

891
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:39,060
Dorsey or somebody within within
Twitter is a zealot and is more

892
00:56:39,060 --> 00:56:45,360
as is really actually thinking
about this stuff from a you

893
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,360
know, from a from an ideological
standpoint and not just pure

894
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,230
monetary or you know, not not
just pure profit because

895
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:54,240
otherwise they would just say
cash out Forget it. I mean,

896
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:57,090
there's really no this is this
is training. I do this I

897
00:56:57,090 --> 00:56:59,610
think this is just knowing a
little bit about Silicon Valley.

898
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,420
This is training wheels for the
users for them as well. Let's

899
00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:06,240
figure it out. We don't have a
lot to lose you know, it's not a

900
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:09,210
huge risk. We're not going to
make big promises.

901
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,990
Did they buy strike? Do you
think they'll buy strike? No,

902
00:57:14,010 --> 00:57:19,440
no, no, now VSA has their claws
in them Oh, that's the play how

903
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,280
strike is is destined for things
mud This is going to you want to

904
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,700
talk about a custodial strike
will be the mother lode of

905
00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:29,370
custodial and it'll be very
important it'll be a very

906
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,730
important stepping stone but
it's visa I mean they they Oh,

907
00:57:32,730 --> 00:57:33,960
they they put a lot in

908
00:57:35,550 --> 00:57:38,880
I have no problem with the
custodial stuff. I mean, I don't

909
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:42,930
I don't mean that and I got to
explain what I mean. And I think

910
00:57:42,930 --> 00:57:48,240
it's the same thing that you
think is that the custodial is

911
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,030
not a problem as long as you can
get your stuff out quick.

912
00:57:52,530 --> 00:57:56,580
Because if it hits if it hits
your strike account and you can

913
00:57:56,580 --> 00:58:01,050
immediately offload that money
into your own into your own

914
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:06,300
wallet or node what doesn't
matter i mean i don't see I

915
00:58:06,300 --> 00:58:10,650
don't see that it matters one
bit because you the solves

916
00:58:10,650 --> 00:58:13,380
Twitter's problem Twitter's
problem is is they need

917
00:58:13,380 --> 00:58:15,780
liquidity because they really
need those payments to be

918
00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:20,310
successful. Because if the
payments fail it's a disaster

919
00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:22,800
Oh, and they're still gonna fail
on the sending side and there's

920
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,540
going to be all kinds of
liquidity issues there.

921
00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:28,350
right all right. Okay, well we
beat that horse

922
00:58:28,590 --> 00:58:36,570
Yes, we did. I did I read
something about stitcher polling

923
00:58:37,020 --> 00:58:38,970
8 million times somewhere

924
00:58:40,050 --> 00:58:43,800
Yeah, this is this is like the
weekly head scratcher where I

925
00:58:43,830 --> 00:58:49,380
wonder what the hell everybody's
waiting on to start monitoring

926
00:58:49,380 --> 00:58:53,130
pod paying. I just don't get it.
They're like hammering they're

927
00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:57,270
hammering buzzsprout like you
know 50 times

928
00:58:57,690 --> 00:59:02,490
does buzzsprout reach out to
them and say hey, have they done

929
00:59:02,490 --> 00:59:05,880
that? Yeah, I mean Tom you know
Tom said he's been talking to

930
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,000
him and telling them you know,
hey, use us piping

931
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:14,100
you maybe maybe Tom and me and
you and Eric just got on a plane

932
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:16,590
and just go talk to those guys.
No, I mean when we show up you

933
00:59:16,590 --> 00:59:19,710
know, we got Eric with us
because we look pretty,

934
00:59:19,770 --> 00:59:23,070
especially if he has his long
leather coat on behind us. A

935
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:26,610
little bulgy here and there.
Yeah, badass badass.

936
00:59:26,850 --> 00:59:30,960
And he just doesn't say anything
the whole time is all stare

937
00:59:32,340 --> 00:59:39,900
you need some glasses. Perfect.
shade. Not such so simple to

938
00:59:39,930 --> 00:59:43,350
solve. This is crazy.

939
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:49,590
Alice Gates has really delivered
a lot on the high rider stuff.

940
00:59:49,620 --> 00:59:55,620
Yes, a couple of weeks. And he
said I've been stuck in database

941
00:59:55,650 --> 00:59:58,860
export land for literally like
two weeks. Yeah, I know what

942
00:59:58,860 --> 01:00:01,410
you're working on. Yeah, you
Yeah, and it's it's just

943
01:00:01,410 --> 01:00:03,960
something for me, you know, for
a company that asked for some

944
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:09,180
stuff from us. And it's been
it's been a real challenge has

945
01:00:09,180 --> 01:00:12,210
been eating up a ton of my time
I'm almost finished and I can't

946
01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:13,170
wait to be finished with it.

947
01:00:13,199 --> 01:00:16,439
I hope I hope it can be useful.
I hope I hope it can be used for

948
01:00:16,439 --> 01:00:18,869
other for other people as well,
because it's it's a you put a

949
01:00:18,869 --> 01:00:20,159
lot of work into that.

950
01:00:20,490 --> 01:00:23,820
I can't I do. I do think it can.
Yeah, I think it'll be something

951
01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:28,470
that that will be useful. It's
it sounds a little dumb to

952
01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:33,240
export things to export a
database as JSON. But I know

953
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,480
what they're trying to do. And
it's, it's not dumb, it makes

954
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,320
sense. And it also is kind of
cool from a time series import

955
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,380
standpoint. But anyway, I think
it's cool. And as soon as I

956
01:00:43,380 --> 01:00:46,290
finished that, though, there's a
lot of stuff that's been backing

957
01:00:46,290 --> 01:00:47,160
up and wait

958
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,810
a minute, why did you say you're
exporting the thing as JSON? Oh,

959
01:00:51,810 --> 01:00:54,150
my God, someone just got
excited.

960
01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:55,830
Daniel, James, J.

961
01:00:55,829 --> 01:00:56,369
Lewis.

962
01:00:58,469 --> 01:01:03,119
A. So as soon as that's done,
I'm going to go and

963
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,050
we're going to do one live I'm
sorry, this doing something

964
01:01:07,050 --> 01:01:07,440
else?

965
01:01:07,889 --> 01:01:11,639
Yeah, give me something other
than live. I'm going to go put

966
01:01:11,639 --> 01:01:17,849
the new hive rider Docker stuff
on to all the piping nodes. And

967
01:01:18,179 --> 01:01:21,119
I've been I've been promised
that it's seamless. And I

968
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:24,659
believe it you know, the guys
that guys awesome program.

969
01:01:26,070 --> 01:01:30,960
And I look at code regularly
just to see me. If I if I

970
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,050
understand what's going on or
little pieces I would say I'm

971
01:01:34,050 --> 01:01:36,570
afraid to look at his because I
think it's probably like Medusa

972
01:01:36,570 --> 01:01:39,630
where your turn to stone. If you
look at it, if you look at Alex

973
01:01:39,630 --> 01:01:43,320
gates, his code like you could
never look at code again. It's

974
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:43,500
like

975
01:01:45,630 --> 01:01:48,360
it's I don't mind looking at his
code. I just don't want him

976
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,710
looking at my code. This
wouldn't get written you and

977
01:01:53,790 --> 01:01:55,920
there was a there was something
that came up and I've been

978
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,830
meaning to mention this because
I know that this has been a

979
01:01:58,830 --> 01:02:03,510
podcast index dot social topic
for a while it goes away and it

980
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:08,370
comes back. And and I was
listening to pod land. And Sam

981
01:02:08,370 --> 01:02:11,250
Sethi now this is one of his
things. But I think James has

982
01:02:11,250 --> 01:02:15,060
also been talking about this
issue, certainly on on the

983
01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:19,500
master on what I can recall. And
I just want to make a suggestion

984
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:21,690
here did anyway you were
listening to you were listening

985
01:02:21,690 --> 01:02:22,470
to Adam D.

986
01:02:23,459 --> 01:02:28,769
podcasting 2.0, by the way,
great show about Bitcoin and

987
01:02:29,369 --> 01:02:31,859
myths about the energy levels.
But the other bit that they

988
01:02:31,859 --> 01:02:35,729
talked about the Dave talks
about was how phase three of the

989
01:02:35,759 --> 01:02:39,149
podcast index namespace is now
closed. And phase four is now

990
01:02:39,149 --> 01:02:42,209
open. I thought what's in phase
four. But I also wanted to look

991
01:02:42,209 --> 01:02:45,599
back at what was in phase three,
that close one of those was the

992
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:50,849
podcast license tag had been
closed. And I asked you a

993
01:02:50,849 --> 01:02:53,129
question in the middle of the
week actually about it, because

994
01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:58,289
we were talking last week about
user generated content, where

995
01:02:58,289 --> 01:03:02,189
maybe I could clip up something
from Portland or someone else's

996
01:03:02,219 --> 01:03:06,569
podcast. And would I have the
rights to do it? Or do we as

997
01:03:06,569 --> 01:03:10,589
Portland issue a Creative
Commons license anyway to allow

998
01:03:10,589 --> 01:03:11,429
anyone to clip us

999
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:13,800
our sort of favorite topic?

1000
01:03:14,310 --> 01:03:18,120
No, I hate this topic. But I do
know a lot. I do know a lot. I

1001
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,720
know a lot about Creative
Commons I took the force, the

1002
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:26,580
first Creative Commons case to
court and and was successful.

1003
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,780
And so and I like it, I like
Creative Commons, but I can

1004
01:03:30,780 --> 01:03:34,530
understand where it doesn't
necessarily fulfill the types of

1005
01:03:34,530 --> 01:03:37,560
things because they go on for a
little bit, and they talk about

1006
01:03:37,980 --> 01:03:41,340
the types of licenses as well.
As you mentioned on the previous

1007
01:03:41,340 --> 01:03:46,860
episode, I have podcast licensed
calm. So why don't we and I've,

1008
01:03:46,950 --> 01:03:50,700
I've done these before I created
at one point, the podsafe music

1009
01:03:50,700 --> 01:03:53,340
license should it may even still
be around actually

1010
01:03:54,119 --> 01:03:57,749
is a full text license. I mean,
it's the real deal. Yeah,

1011
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:00,570
yeah, it was uh, let me see if I
can find it. podsafe Music

1012
01:04:00,570 --> 01:04:04,500
license now this was back in the
day. We had podcast alley

1013
01:04:04,530 --> 01:04:06,990
podcast, music, policy,

1014
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,410
safe music website that you
couldn't get.

1015
01:04:11,340 --> 01:04:16,620
Yeah, well, that was a podcast
alley. And oh, gosh, I can't

1016
01:04:16,620 --> 01:04:17,250
remember.

1017
01:04:17,790 --> 01:04:20,760
I'm looking at Wikipedia right
now. podsafe is a term created

1018
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,700
in the podcasting community to
refer to work any work which

1019
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:27,360
through its licensing
specifically allows us the use

1020
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:28,380
of the working podcast.

1021
01:04:29,219 --> 01:04:34,079
So the way the license worked,
was I play your song I would

1022
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:38,099
have to report to you that I
played your song but I wouldn't

1023
01:04:38,099 --> 01:04:42,929
have to pay anything. And that
was it. And I could report by

1024
01:04:42,929 --> 01:04:47,519
just put I could also put a link
on my page you know, it was

1025
01:04:47,549 --> 01:04:50,849
obviously a value for value
honor type system, but there

1026
01:04:50,849 --> 01:04:53,309
were a lot of interesting people
who showed up they showed up

1027
01:04:53,309 --> 01:04:56,279
with their the Masters they had
purchased back I mean, there was

1028
01:04:56,279 --> 01:04:59,069
some like Davy Jones like
monkeys guy, you know, he put

1029
01:04:59,069 --> 01:05:02,309
some stuff on It was the
different people, people who own

1030
01:05:02,309 --> 01:05:06,719
stuff from before 72 and then
Carmen Tyler who still was

1031
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:18,029
around 72 matters. Oh yeah, long
story but the the before 1972

1032
01:05:18,119 --> 01:05:23,069
the rules were different. So
artists who had songs before 72

1033
01:05:23,249 --> 01:05:26,789
really got screwed they got no
royalties and they've been

1034
01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:31,619
fighting for back royalties for
years. And and the main, the

1035
01:05:31,619 --> 01:05:35,579
main for the one of the final
big agreements took place a few

1036
01:05:35,579 --> 01:05:39,329
years ago where Sirius XM had to
pay this huge lump sum, but you

1037
01:05:39,329 --> 01:05:42,179
had stole a lot of the stones
early stuff they really didn't

1038
01:05:42,179 --> 01:05:43,649
get many royalties over it.

1039
01:05:44,609 --> 01:05:46,739
I wonder if that's the same
stuff that happened to like

1040
01:05:46,739 --> 01:05:48,929
Boston and some of those guys
sure anything

1041
01:05:48,930 --> 01:05:54,330
before 7272 or maybe even 74? I
can't remember now. Anyway, what

1042
01:05:54,330 --> 01:05:59,160
was my point, but say podsafe
music and so we wrote it up and

1043
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,360
we also allowed people to we had
a repository so you could upload

1044
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,090
there and you know, we had
templates and it was, it was a

1045
01:06:06,090 --> 01:06:09,870
pretty cool thing. The guy we
bought, we bought a company

1046
01:06:09,870 --> 01:06:15,870
which was podcast alley, chris
chris from Nashville, and and

1047
01:06:15,870 --> 01:06:22,110
then he, we know exactly how
podcasts alley folded in but

1048
01:06:22,110 --> 01:06:26,010
then he really started running
podcast podsafe music, my point

1049
01:06:26,010 --> 01:06:30,900
is, we can do a license that has
all of these permutations. It's

1050
01:06:30,900 --> 01:06:34,260
really not that hard, it's kind
of fun actually to come up with

1051
01:06:34,260 --> 01:06:36,720
all the different angles and
then we can just publish it we

1052
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,510
have a domain name I'm happy to
put that into the pot let's use

1053
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:43,230
that. We could do sub domains if
you wanted if you want to get

1054
01:06:43,230 --> 01:06:47,160
fancy with with the licensing or
some kind of authentication, and

1055
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:55,740
maybe authentication of stuff
goes through a node ID could be

1056
01:06:55,770 --> 01:06:59,490
authenticator you know this
would fold into value block

1057
01:06:59,490 --> 01:07:03,690
splits I mean there's a lot of
stuff you can do here and I

1058
01:07:03,690 --> 01:07:07,620
think it's a would be a very
interesting exercise for me to

1059
01:07:07,620 --> 01:07:09,390
watch someone else do

1060
01:07:11,790 --> 01:07:12,960
the whole thing

1061
01:07:14,099 --> 01:07:20,639
but I would I would gladly
contribute my my historical

1062
01:07:20,639 --> 01:07:25,229
experience and whatever I've
learned along the way so if Sam

1063
01:07:25,229 --> 01:07:28,319
or James or both if they want to
if someone wants to kick started

1064
01:07:28,319 --> 01:07:31,679
I'll support that work
definitely it's a good idea of

1065
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:34,739
where if people will will need
something like this down the

1066
01:07:34,739 --> 01:07:39,089
road somehow and whether it says
hey, you can play my song as

1067
01:07:39,089 --> 01:07:43,349
long as you put my value block
in your podcast or you can use a

1068
01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:46,469
clip of my podcast and your
podcast but slip me into an

1069
01:07:46,469 --> 01:07:50,039
episode an item level value
block this is the show we got to

1070
01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:57,539
be thinking of man you know take
my staff pay me put me in your

1071
01:07:57,539 --> 01:08:02,219
value block block me the value
block me baby

1072
01:08:02,699 --> 01:08:08,129
that value the I don't want you
to use my stuff thing that that

1073
01:08:08,129 --> 01:08:10,589
has never made any sense to me
when people use your stuff

1074
01:08:10,619 --> 01:08:11,699
that's there.

1075
01:08:11,789 --> 01:08:14,639
By the way that was marketing
that was me doing Lars from

1076
01:08:14,639 --> 01:08:15,329
Metallica.

1077
01:08:17,670 --> 01:08:24,300
Just like lawyers. That's voice
that was Napster lowers all the

1078
01:08:24,300 --> 01:08:30,330
way so this is no I think this
is cool. And I think Sam

1079
01:08:30,330 --> 01:08:34,890
specifically is into this
because he runs a radio station

1080
01:08:34,890 --> 01:08:35,370
any games

1081
01:08:35,370 --> 01:08:38,040
and he drinks wine. Apparently
he doesn't drink beer. He drinks

1082
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:38,700
wine. So

1083
01:08:38,730 --> 01:08:41,310
that was the most disappointing
thing about the entire time.

1084
01:08:41,339 --> 01:08:45,569
I gotta say I'm a wine guy. I'm
wondering. Yeah, I drink a glass

1085
01:08:45,569 --> 01:08:46,409
of wine every night,

1086
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,020
Rosa? No, no,

1087
01:08:49,620 --> 01:08:52,590
no, we live in Texas Hill
Country now. So now Tina has

1088
01:08:53,190 --> 01:08:59,790
done what she has instituted
winery Wednesday. So to write

1089
01:08:59,790 --> 01:09:05,550
this whole scam off, I do report
on the no agenda show where I

1090
01:09:05,550 --> 01:09:10,050
talk about the wine and john Of
course, that tells me it's yet

1091
01:09:10,050 --> 01:09:12,870
and I paid too much for it. So
that's that's the gag.

1092
01:09:13,860 --> 01:09:17,490
Yeah, Wonder one Wednesday right
before tacos. Right after Taco

1093
01:09:17,490 --> 01:09:17,970
Tuesday.

1094
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:18,510
That's right.

1095
01:09:19,830 --> 01:09:24,540
No, we're in Alabama. We have
must get on one and scuppernong

1096
01:09:24,540 --> 01:09:27,210
one. Those are in they taste
like garbage.

1097
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,370
I like I like the ones out here.
It's good. Anyway. So yeah, so

1098
01:09:32,370 --> 01:09:35,700
that's, that's just a thought.
And I think that would be a

1099
01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:40,920
very, very good project to have,
because we're going to need

1100
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,620
something like that. But we have
to. I guess my point is we got

1101
01:09:43,620 --> 01:09:46,500
to be thinking more about how
does it work? How does it all

1102
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:52,530
work? So we all can share in it.
And you know, I can see. I can

1103
01:09:52,530 --> 01:09:55,740
see future stuff where that's
even automated, like oh, I took

1104
01:09:55,740 --> 01:10:00,300
a clip from it to boom. You
know, one, one point In the

1105
01:10:00,300 --> 01:10:01,920
value block, whatever.

1106
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:07,530
But it I mean, this is kind of
relevant because I spent way,

1107
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:12,120
way too much time trying to find
a back a little backing thing

1108
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:19,500
for one of the ISOs that for
today that john cigi sent. And I

1109
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:21,810
just wanted to juice it up a
little bit and I had to I mean,

1110
01:10:21,810 --> 01:10:24,570
God, it took forever to find
something that was royalty, you

1111
01:10:24,570 --> 01:10:28,260
know, that gave me the license I
needed. And it was just one

1112
01:10:28,260 --> 01:10:31,440
little like, boom, you know,
it's uh, let's see, it's ISO

1113
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:32,460
booster, gram jazzy.

1114
01:10:35,850 --> 01:10:38,190
Nice. Right.

1115
01:10:38,730 --> 01:10:42,780
But like it took forever just to
find that one little piano thing

1116
01:10:42,780 --> 01:10:47,100
that I could use. without a
license. Let me

1117
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:53,820
give you an example. So our our
opener. This whole talk was not

1118
01:10:53,820 --> 01:11:02,280
playing. That's odd. That's
really weird. Yeah. But now the

1119
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:07,500
opener open to massive tech
failure. Oh, sec. Let me see

1120
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:16,350
what's going on. Why? Why is
that play? Oh, man. There we go.

1121
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:21,300
There we go. That one. So I
purchased that. I bought that,

1122
01:11:22,290 --> 01:11:26,610
you know, one time purchase use
forever. What it would have made

1123
01:11:26,610 --> 01:11:30,450
so much more sense for me to say
to the person who made it here,

1124
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:35,220
you're in the value block? Yep.
in perpetuity, in perpetuity for

1125
01:11:35,220 --> 01:11:36,840
as long as we use use your
stuff.

1126
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,900
And that's why I brought this
up. Because when we go searching

1127
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:40,950
for things like

1128
01:11:40,980 --> 01:11:44,370
I'm sorry, just before I forget
to say we need some kind of mp3

1129
01:11:44,370 --> 01:11:49,890
ID tag identifier that says this
is the value block or this is

1130
01:11:49,890 --> 01:11:55,110
the this is the the node ID for
payments for payments to this

1131
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:56,520
asset. I'm sorry, keep going.

1132
01:11:56,730 --> 01:12:00,150
That's a good idea. That No, I
mean, why if you go looking for

1133
01:12:00,150 --> 01:12:07,200
things like you know, pod
podsafe music music, jazz hit,

1134
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:08,340
or something like that.

1135
01:12:08,820 --> 01:12:10,590
The loss of it sucks balls?

1136
01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:14,430
Well, but the way they do it?
Well a lot of them do is they

1137
01:12:14,430 --> 01:12:17,670
put them into YouTube videos.
You know, I'm talking about

1138
01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:23,010
Yeah, sure. So they'll have your
YouTube video full of all these,

1139
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,950
you know things. Right? Yeah,
you've got to repeat all these

1140
01:12:26,010 --> 01:12:30,570
loops. Yeah, and then it'll say
so what I'm thinking is, why not

1141
01:12:30,570 --> 01:12:36,330
a podcast that just has these
hits these these loops as

1142
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,030
episodes, and then a value block
and

1143
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,730
great mechanism. tie that into
the licensing system that

1144
01:12:44,730 --> 01:12:49,770
Jameson's Esam just created.
Yeah. Bob's your uncle.

1145
01:12:49,980 --> 01:12:53,790
Yeah, I like it. Yeah, let me I
think Sam could run with this

1146
01:12:53,790 --> 01:12:56,400
because I mean he needs it
anyway for his radio station.

1147
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:57,660
He's gonna be happy he's

1148
01:12:57,660 --> 01:13:00,030
gonna need to do something after
the after he goes broke from

1149
01:13:00,030 --> 01:13:01,530
running the radio station.

1150
01:13:06,180 --> 01:13:07,980
That's top notch radio top notch
right?

1151
01:13:09,180 --> 01:13:11,580
Eye sports Sports Radio to

1152
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,070
this what's disappointing about
him drinking one I feel like he

1153
01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:16,890
should be drinking this big
manly beer with this, you know,

1154
01:13:16,890 --> 01:13:20,100
like a like a stout? Or an
oatmeal stout. You know, there's

1155
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:23,160
something you can like use the
fork with like, stand up in

1156
01:13:23,369 --> 01:13:25,319
now, man, he probably hangs out
with the Wags

1157
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:27,629
with a wag, Oh, boy.

1158
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,680
I'll get busted for this. This
is just only because I live

1159
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,620
there. Do I know this? That's an
acronym for wives and

1160
01:13:34,620 --> 01:13:39,900
girlfriends. footballers, wives
and girlfriends at a low was

1161
01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:42,450
very low. It just slipped out. I
didn't mean any of it, Sam.

1162
01:13:43,890 --> 01:13:52,200
And I thought this speaking of
speaking of booster grams, do we

1163
01:13:52,260 --> 01:13:56,670
want to go ahead and thank some
people and then do a little bit

1164
01:13:56,670 --> 01:14:00,390
more, I got a little bit more on
namespace stuff. Here's your cue

1165
01:14:00,390 --> 01:14:03,510
to boost. You know you want to.

1166
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:08,100
I'm all about thanking everybody
for the value for value. whole

1167
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:11,880
project. If you don't know it by
now, you should look it up.

1168
01:14:12,300 --> 01:14:14,910
actually go to value for
value.io. There's some of it,

1169
01:14:14,910 --> 01:14:19,230
there are some links as well.
The only thing that we need is

1170
01:14:19,230 --> 01:14:22,170
to keep this whole project
going. Is everyone to

1171
01:14:22,170 --> 01:14:25,710
participate. Everyone has to do
something time, talent treasure,

1172
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:28,440
take your pick two or three,
three out of three is also a

1173
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:34,140
good so we can keep this free
open and open in the sense of

1174
01:14:34,140 --> 01:14:37,530
not just open source but open
for everybody to participate in

1175
01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:42,480
with no hidden agendas. And then
the only way we can do it is

1176
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:46,050
what's been working for us now
but we do need your support. And

1177
01:14:46,050 --> 01:14:48,990
people are kind enough to do
that through our cookbook

1178
01:14:49,170 --> 01:14:53,070
cookbook system over at podcast
index.org. At the bottom is a

1179
01:14:53,070 --> 01:14:57,630
red Donate button. PayPal is
most favorable there. But of

1180
01:14:57,630 --> 01:15:01,140
course we appreciate people who
are slowly converting to the

1181
01:15:01,140 --> 01:15:05,070
booster grams and starting to
send their appreciation and

1182
01:15:05,070 --> 01:15:09,360
their value back to us in real
time. And do we still want to

1183
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,090
start reading them? Or do we
want to do the paper towels or

1184
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:13,860
whatever? What have we decided
on this?

1185
01:15:14,190 --> 01:15:18,630
Let's do the Pay Pal first good.
Cuz it's a big one Marco arment.

1186
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:20,490
coming in with $500. Again.

1187
01:15:21,690 --> 01:15:26,610
That is, and that's that's
sustaining? Can we do anything

1188
01:15:26,610 --> 01:15:29,820
for him? I feel like you know,
he just he just doesn't he

1189
01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:35,280
doesn't want a T shirt. Can we
ask him? We send them some HMB?

1190
01:15:36,660 --> 01:15:37,500
HNB?

1191
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:44,880
Oh, I just want to do right. I
mean, it's so appreciated. And I

1192
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,690
know that the index is valuable
to him. But he always just kind

1193
01:15:48,690 --> 01:15:52,050
of he's out there. He's always
been a little bit apart from the

1194
01:15:52,050 --> 01:15:52,830
group, I guess.

1195
01:15:53,369 --> 01:15:56,579
Yeah, I think I think he's what
he does like to do his own

1196
01:15:56,579 --> 01:15:56,999
thing. But he's,

1197
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,450
he's signaling his value and is
highly, highly appreciated.

1198
01:16:00,750 --> 01:16:01,170
Yeah,

1199
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,960
very much appreciated. And one
of the things he's doing is

1200
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:11,340
sinking. He constantly syncs
with us. And so we, we get, I'll

1201
01:16:11,340 --> 01:16:14,070
just do a little aside here,
because we haven't had 25 of

1202
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:19,590
those already this year. But we,
we sink, we get feeds, I get

1203
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:25,260
that I get asked this a lot. I
had actually had a call with the

1204
01:16:25,260 --> 01:16:30,270
gas from Samsung podcast last
week for last. And just help me

1205
01:16:30,270 --> 01:16:32,700
I'm talking about namespace
stuff and that kind of thing. In

1206
01:16:32,700 --> 01:16:36,990
pod Ping. And they asked in,
everybody always asked us, where

1207
01:16:36,990 --> 01:16:39,960
do you get the feeds from? Let
me get the zillion feeds, where

1208
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,110
do you get them from. And don't
always go through the list

1209
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:45,150
Swedish, Swedish trickler.
Swedish

1210
01:16:45,150 --> 01:16:49,710
trailer for the Swedish
trickler. Christopher icynene.

1211
01:16:50,850 --> 01:16:55,410
Next, we get him from pod news.
Anybody searches for fate on pod

1212
01:16:55,410 --> 01:16:59,340
news, James auto submits to us
cool. We get them from directly

1213
01:16:59,340 --> 01:17:03,360
from hosts submissions, some
hosts auto submit, and some

1214
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,570
hosts just have us on their
dashboard. So the podcaster can

1215
01:17:06,570 --> 01:17:12,060
submit directly from there. One
click, we get them from pod pain

1216
01:17:12,090 --> 01:17:17,550
newfie discoveries on pod pain.
And then we get them from direct

1217
01:17:17,550 --> 01:17:23,580
submissions through the API.
Now, and another way that we get

1218
01:17:23,580 --> 01:17:28,110
them is Marco syncs his database
with hours.

1219
01:17:29,610 --> 01:17:33,060
So he gets all anything new on
iTunes, that kind of stuff he

1220
01:17:33,060 --> 01:17:34,170
must have, right,

1221
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:39,120
it's sort of a mutual thing. And
so he looks, he looks up to see

1222
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,990
if we have an iTunes ID or a
Feed URL to do a reverse lookup.

1223
01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:48,990
And so he sees if he found
something, if he found a, an A,

1224
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:51,540
A Feed URL that he doesn't know
the iTunes ID for, he'll do a

1225
01:17:51,540 --> 01:17:56,340
reverse lookup on us. See if we
have and see if we have it. And

1226
01:17:56,340 --> 01:18:00,090
if we do have it, he'll put it
in his if we don't have it,

1227
01:18:00,090 --> 01:18:03,810
he'll give it to us cool if he
has it. So it's Oh, it's just a

1228
01:18:03,810 --> 01:18:07,650
cart. It's like I mean, you
know, a couple 1000 times a day

1229
01:18:07,650 --> 01:18:11,880
these these things are doing so
that's, that's what he's, that's

1230
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,970
how he's supporting us. And
getting value back from us is

1231
01:18:14,970 --> 01:18:18,330
getting is is using us as a
resolver and then submitting. So

1232
01:18:18,330 --> 01:18:19,260
anyway, that's

1233
01:18:19,290 --> 01:18:20,850
outstanding. Outstanding.

1234
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:22,080
Thank you, Marcus.

1235
01:18:23,820 --> 01:18:25,950
That was pretty good overview of
how we get feeds. I don't think

1236
01:18:25,950 --> 01:18:28,560
you've ever explained that. Or
we've never put it all in one

1237
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:29,550
sentence. It's cool.

1238
01:18:29,970 --> 01:18:34,560
Yeah, it's important to have
lots of different feed sources.

1239
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:39,660
Yeah. Because we don't, most
directories will just go out

1240
01:18:39,660 --> 01:18:44,070
there and pull and scrape apple
and we scrape it all. No, that's

1241
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:49,830
not what we do. Let's see, I
think, yep. I'll save that. I'll

1242
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:51,810
save that because that's a note
that goes along with no, that

1243
01:18:51,810 --> 01:18:55,170
was the only PayPal single donor
Whoa,

1244
01:18:55,410 --> 01:19:00,300
whoa, sad puppy. No, no, no, no,
we are not happy. Okay. Mostly

1245
01:19:00,300 --> 01:19:03,180
donor. Oh, good. Yeah. What the
monthly donors? Yes.

1246
01:19:03,210 --> 01:19:09,330
Yeah. But we we also had a
really big booster, gram. I

1247
01:19:09,330 --> 01:19:13,740
gotta dig I got a baller boost.
Oh, it's like mega baller boost.

1248
01:19:13,740 --> 01:19:16,650
Really? I think I've got it. I
can. I don't think Let me see. I

1249
01:19:16,650 --> 01:19:19,350
wonder if my won't mind if I
steal this from him.

1250
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:21,450
Oh, my goodness.

1251
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:29,070
This is just so good. sakala 20
is blades on Impala. I only use

1252
01:19:29,070 --> 01:19:32,940
it once. Okay, that's our big
baller thing and mo facts. Since

1253
01:19:32,940 --> 01:19:35,970
you you played it up who's who's
our big baller booster Graham

1254
01:19:35,970 --> 01:19:37,950
from Dred Scott

1255
01:19:38,970 --> 01:19:44,430
and trying to fight it. For some
reason it did not come through

1256
01:19:44,970 --> 01:19:49,830
the email and I still have not
found out why. But it did come

1257
01:19:49,830 --> 01:19:52,920
through. But it did go into the
database.

1258
01:19:55,770 --> 01:19:57,990
I don't think I saw this one
because I didn't see something

1259
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:59,610
from drip on the email.

1260
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,880
Yeah That's what I'm saying.
Come through the email and he

1261
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,840
sent me a message saying hey,
you know I sent you a big boost

1262
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,400
oh my gosh I can't find it now
I'm gonna feel like a turd a fan

1263
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:22,380
so yeah Dred Scott sent us a
booster gram of 216,482 sets

1264
01:20:22,410 --> 01:20:29,100
wow and he says wait wait Give
me that give me the stats what

1265
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,750
what app did it come from?

1266
01:20:31,170 --> 01:20:34,470
Okay this game through Curio
caster How did it What was the

1267
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:44,460
timestamp timestamp? Got a boost
link in there? Where's the shoot

1268
01:20:44,460 --> 01:20:47,910
that link to me? No, no, just
shoot the timestamp is just one

1269
01:20:48,420 --> 01:20:53,700
so it's sitting on the episode.
Okay Okay. And he says the

1270
01:20:53,700 --> 01:20:57,600
message is three jingles sat
streamer from Fun Fact Friday.

1271
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,710
Okay, now we shouldn't be in
your yes I've

1272
01:21:01,710 --> 01:21:02,700
noticed that yes.

1273
01:21:02,820 --> 01:21:07,860
Boost. Well which which boost?
gave us gag gifts is dealer's

1274
01:21:07,860 --> 01:21:11,070
choice. No, no, no. He likes to
call a bear moose. He likes to

1275
01:21:11,070 --> 01:21:11,490
bake Well,

1276
01:21:11,490 --> 01:21:14,850
he likes he likes a big boost
and big boost and then

1277
01:21:15,540 --> 01:21:18,810
and then go podcasting. Oh, and
he says at the time of this

1278
01:21:18,810 --> 01:21:25,140
boost, this boost of 220,900
SATs should equal $100.03 133

1279
01:21:25,140 --> 01:21:25,650
cents.

1280
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,330
wow man.

1281
01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:29,700
Thanks for all you guys are
doing go podcasting.

1282
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:39,810
Thank you so much. streamer
streamer ama sad streamer

1283
01:21:40,020 --> 01:21:45,090
streamer. dream weaver gonna
splash my SATs all over you

1284
01:21:47,130 --> 01:21:51,780
let's see so we got out I was
worried when he sent me that

1285
01:21:51,780 --> 01:21:54,720
email I was like oh my God
didn't get lost we didn't have a

1286
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:59,400
channel big enough and something
happened but then I went through

1287
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:03,060
the DB and found it but it
didn't come through email and I

1288
01:22:03,060 --> 01:22:04,440
still can't figure out why

1289
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:09,780
well drip thank you so much and
enjoy the enjoy the the fiber

1290
01:22:09,780 --> 01:22:12,570
that splashed back on you to the
value blog.

1291
01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:13,830
Yeah,

1292
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,800
that's cool. It gets right back.

1293
01:22:17,490 --> 01:22:22,410
I love that he did this. I mean
obviously he's extremely

1294
01:22:22,410 --> 01:22:26,850
generous but I love that he did
this because he's like I'm just

1295
01:22:26,850 --> 01:22:28,980
gonna push the limits and see
how many that's

1296
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,640
exactly what he's doing. It's
exactly what he's doing and and

1297
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,450
i will say to Steven b i think
drab is also ready to push the

1298
01:22:36,450 --> 01:22:41,670
limit on the chapters editor in
the in the in the Curio Jenny

1299
01:22:43,500 --> 01:22:46,470
tightenings that up. Tight knees
it

1300
01:22:46,740 --> 01:22:51,540
I mean 220 days I want everybody
to realize what just happened

1301
01:22:51,630 --> 01:23:00,570
100 bucks was boosted was
boosted $100 that's significant

1302
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:07,650
I know I know I know I know I'm
just sitting I'm smiling from

1303
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:12,570
ear to ear and it didn't crash
that's I'd love to know the

1304
01:23:12,570 --> 01:23:17,820
routing on that guy I've got it
all oh actually I think I saw I

1305
01:23:17,820 --> 01:23:22,410
think I saw is because they went
from Ellen pay right probably

1306
01:23:22,410 --> 01:23:22,800
Yeah.

1307
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,030
From Curio caster. Yeah, yeah,
see it affect the channel? Oh,

1308
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:32,580
yeah. It Abacus that thing all
the way from left to right. And

1309
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,720
quite a bit. Yeah. I actually
have a little backup channel

1310
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:41,100
just in case we need to send a
message of help. But yeah, yeah,

1311
01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:46,170
we got 5 million SATs I think
with with lm pay right now with

1312
01:23:46,170 --> 01:23:50,220
Tim. Yeah, yeah. Okay, thank
you. Thanks, man. That's

1313
01:23:50,220 --> 01:23:53,850
fantastic. And everyone else
down the line I guess. Now he

1314
01:23:53,850 --> 01:23:56,400
didn't send that amount to
everybody on that that's not

1315
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,150
being split up in Curio caster,
or does everyone get the get the

1316
01:24:00,150 --> 01:24:00,660
amount?

1317
01:24:00,990 --> 01:24:03,630
Now? I think he just sent it to
us. Okay. All right. Good. All

1318
01:24:03,630 --> 01:24:10,800
right. Let's see Franco Franco
celerio says he sent us 1881 SAS

1319
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,680
and he said don't strip my
license yet confetti will come

1320
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,790
to cast Matic or some other sort
of geeky crypto Jesus

1321
01:24:19,170 --> 01:24:20,490
crypto All right.

1322
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,450
Thank you Franco and yes, he
followed up on that and he did

1323
01:24:24,450 --> 01:24:25,920
put confetti into

1324
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,640
your dead Thank you. Good to
have you here man. It's good to

1325
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,110
have you as a part of the of the
game.

1326
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:38,310
Yeah, six or seven. I think I'm
done with that sheet as a mere

1327
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:42,540
mortals and that must be kyron s
came in a came through fountain

1328
01:24:42,570 --> 01:24:46,770
app. He says I love the booster
gram corner intro for pod land.

1329
01:24:47,130 --> 01:24:49,920
I'm wondering if you could
create one for the value for

1330
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,520
value podcast. Okay, this is new
podcast. The V for V booster

1331
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,840
gram lounge perhaps something
more sensual. I'll reward

1332
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:04,590
handsomely. So he sent us 2001
34 sets will booster Graham

1333
01:25:04,590 --> 01:25:06,270
lounge in there somewhere yeah
I'm

1334
01:25:06,270 --> 01:25:09,270
thinking Let me see what I can
do here

1335
01:25:12,990 --> 01:25:14,610
the booster grand lounge that

1336
01:25:15,330 --> 01:25:16,110
I must feel

1337
01:25:16,110 --> 01:25:17,070
is very velvety

1338
01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:23,940
Let me see what I have What is
this? No that's not gonna work

1339
01:25:24,180 --> 01:25:26,490
that's very Indiana Jones ish
Apple

1340
01:25:27,300 --> 01:25:33,150
that's not even something How
about this the value for value

1341
01:25:33,210 --> 01:25:34,410
booster gram corner

1342
01:25:36,450 --> 01:25:37,410
now it's the booster gram

1343
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,050
booster gram right well that's
that's like yeah work booster

1344
01:25:40,050 --> 01:25:41,040
gram lounge hold on

1345
01:25:42,420 --> 01:25:43,650
I didn't know where you're going
with that

1346
01:25:45,150 --> 01:25:50,370
I'm just adapting you know what
is this? Welcome to the value

1347
01:25:50,370 --> 01:25:52,740
for value booster gram lounge

1348
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:08,880
for totally insane Instagram
lounge

1349
01:26:16,650 --> 01:26:18,300
that was Friday the firewall

1350
01:26:18,330 --> 01:26:22,050
is right that's pretty close to
it that was that was pretty much

1351
01:26:22,050 --> 01:26:25,890
close to Friday yeah I'll just
I'll just do the voiceover they

1352
01:26:25,890 --> 01:26:31,740
can add their own music okay
Welcome to the value for value

1353
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:38,490
booster Graham lounge beautiful
Come on in I'm going to try one

1354
01:26:38,490 --> 01:26:42,660
more yeah come on in you're all
welcome in the value for value

1355
01:26:42,660 --> 01:26:44,160
booster Graham lounge

1356
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:46,680
oh that's that's good

1357
01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:50,369
right a little different little
top hat types action there okay.

1358
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:57,510
Yeah, I like it. Alright thank
you Carrie. Yes Thank you man

1359
01:26:57,510 --> 01:27:03,600
pretty the firewall doing
booster. See bill Bill, Bill

1360
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:09,120
Prague, send us 500 says and he
said well have donations with

1361
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:13,080
comments memos would go through
in three to five seconds. So

1362
01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:15,390
did he get that did he receive
one i

1363
01:27:17,190 --> 01:27:21,030
don't know i'm guessing he said
this this is a timestamp thing

1364
01:27:21,030 --> 01:27:24,510
so we must have said something
at this timestamp that he Oh

1365
01:27:24,510 --> 01:27:28,800
okay. Okay. He's responding to
us and saying that I've

1366
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,870
donations would go through in
three to five seconds rather

1367
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:35,370
than 15 minutes like are delayed
boost do so this is this is a

1368
01:27:35,370 --> 01:27:41,850
guy this is Bill. See, shaming
us for being online is the half

1369
01:27:41,850 --> 01:27:46,410
guy okay, he's saying he's
saying your lightning sucks and

1370
01:27:46,410 --> 01:27:47,070
hive is great.

1371
01:27:47,490 --> 01:27:53,100
Hey, I have high power man I'm
reliably informed hey it works

1372
01:27:53,100 --> 01:27:57,030
though. It works correct you can
have a hive

1373
01:27:57,690 --> 01:27:58,290
yeah

1374
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:04,470
feed and a podcast or video and
then you you get booster grams

1375
01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:07,140
and they and the message goes
through as well to them if they

1376
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,190
if it doesn't get translated
through to the hive receiver

1377
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:16,860
all that it ends we've got we've
got Brian coming on the show and

1378
01:28:16,860 --> 01:28:17,100
well then

1379
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:19,260
why see so much Why is he so mad
bro?

1380
01:28:22,890 --> 01:28:26,610
Thank you, Bill now he's no he
can't help it. He's He's a hard

1381
01:28:26,610 --> 01:28:27,240
guy. He's got

1382
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:31,650
a chip on his shoulder.

1383
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,530
The iron perpetual 100 off
syndrome.

1384
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:35,310
Thank you Bill.

1385
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:41,700
He says see anonymous from
breeze send us 1000 SAS and says

1386
01:28:41,700 --> 01:28:42,930
starting out with a boost

1387
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,360
no thank you we like it a boost.

1388
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:53,400
nano boost. Another anonymous
send us 1000 stats and says 1000

1389
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,950
says to help with the nurse
salary find

1390
01:28:57,810 --> 01:28:58,800
the nurse?

1391
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,190
I don't need a F and nurse.
Okay. Hey,

1392
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,790
they're gonna put an alias in
soon aren't they in breezer that

1393
01:29:05,790 --> 01:29:07,920
is everyone always gonna be
anonymous. I'm breeze.

1394
01:29:08,430 --> 01:29:10,470
I don't know. And I know it. I

1395
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:13,290
know it's you know, it's max
Hillenbrand man he's a he's a

1396
01:29:13,290 --> 01:29:17,730
GitHub Maven. I see him floating
around saying like Hey, he's

1397
01:29:17,730 --> 01:29:19,920
always posted he's always
posting issues has always come

1398
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,710
up with solutions little little
things that are irritating he

1399
01:29:22,740 --> 01:29:25,860
Max is always there. posting
about him getting trying to get

1400
01:29:25,860 --> 01:29:26,610
stuff fixed.

1401
01:29:27,089 --> 01:29:27,989
He gets stuff done.

1402
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,290
Yes, he does. Yes he does. This

1403
01:29:31,410 --> 01:29:34,170
1000s says to help with the
nurse Sal refund laugh out loud,

1404
01:29:34,440 --> 01:29:38,370
Rusty trainer and I'm not sure
who rusty is bass his callsign

1405
01:29:38,370 --> 01:29:41,160
is WP wb for BSD.

1406
01:29:41,370 --> 01:29:44,310
Oh 73 kilo five alpha Charlie,
Charlie.

1407
01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:52,170
Thank you, Rusty. Sir pate. Is
it peace repeating page repeat,

1408
01:29:52,260 --> 01:29:57,390
repeat. Repeat 1000 sets and he
says al satoshy

1409
01:30:02,669 --> 01:30:03,539
All right, sir. paid

1410
01:30:04,859 --> 01:30:06,479
the mozzie Okay, I

1411
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,629
was trying to drive masie right?
Yeah. I was

1412
01:30:09,630 --> 01:30:16,530
expecting this. 3333 says he
says, homeopathy. That was the

1413
01:30:16,530 --> 01:30:21,030
thing I could not remember the
name of Ah, yeah, you dilute the

1414
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:23,820
little bits of medicine and
water. You know? Yes.

1415
01:30:23,820 --> 01:30:24,690
homeopathy?

1416
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,550
Yes. Yes. Which is brewed,

1417
01:30:27,300 --> 01:30:32,160
which is great. Yes. The
placebo. Thank you, Brian. Oh,

1418
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,760
thank you for us. I remembered
the name of it literally like 10

1419
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:41,400
minutes after we stopped
recording. Alex 1000 sets and he

1420
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,580
just says Thanks Adam and David.
Now this is not Alex gates. This

1421
01:30:44,580 --> 01:30:49,410
is an Alex because he spells his
name AL ec k s but this Alex

1422
01:30:49,410 --> 01:30:53,970
spells his name or her name? Al
x. I don't know who this is.

1423
01:30:54,090 --> 01:30:55,380
Okay, but it's Alex.

1424
01:30:55,440 --> 01:30:58,380
That's all we need to know.
Salud. Alex's SATs are as good

1425
01:30:58,380 --> 01:30:59,370
as anyone elses.

1426
01:30:59,580 --> 01:31:02,970
They spend just the same. And I
love stacking SATs.

1427
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:07,680
If anything that we're gonna
wake up one day, Dave. In the

1428
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:12,870
future. You'll have your Tiny
Tim crutch. I'll have I'll have

1429
01:31:12,870 --> 01:31:13,020
a

1430
01:31:13,110 --> 01:31:14,640
be on a journey of a hump

1431
01:31:16,830 --> 01:31:21,390
back but we'll have like 500
million SATs and it'll be worth

1432
01:31:21,390 --> 01:31:21,960
something.

1433
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:29,070
Yeah, and that'll be right
before we die. We die. Because

1434
01:31:29,070 --> 01:31:34,110
it'll take 40 years. Okay. 1000
SATs another 1000 SATs from

1435
01:31:34,110 --> 01:31:38,940
Alex. And he she says boost from
found.fm.

1436
01:31:39,270 --> 01:31:40,170
All right, thank you.

1437
01:31:42,300 --> 01:31:47,700
Let's see who we got next. Oh,
this a big message. Wilco sends

1438
01:31:47,700 --> 01:31:53,010
us 1241 SATs from cast ematic I
like to cast Matic app and dig

1439
01:31:53,010 --> 01:31:55,770
in it. Yeah. I'm using it at
least once a day

1440
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,280
if you're gonna do a Android or
is that Really?

1441
01:32:00,180 --> 01:32:01,710
I don't know. I think he's an
iOS guy.

1442
01:32:01,739 --> 01:32:03,239
Is he not flutter based?

1443
01:32:03,749 --> 01:32:06,269
No. Native baby.

1444
01:32:06,419 --> 01:32:08,459
Oh, he's native. Native. He's

1445
01:32:08,460 --> 01:32:09,270
an iOS native.

1446
01:32:09,869 --> 01:32:12,239
Maybe I can get the keeper to
try it out. She's She's still

1447
01:32:12,239 --> 01:32:14,789
pretty, pretty loving, pretty
much loving pod friend.

1448
01:32:15,659 --> 01:32:17,909
Okay, yeah, like I like
cosmetic. I'm digging. I'm

1449
01:32:17,909 --> 01:32:21,449
starting to use it more and
flipping back and forth between

1450
01:32:21,449 --> 01:32:28,499
them all. See. Wilco says,
boost. You're not only

1451
01:32:28,499 --> 01:32:31,679
reinventing podcasting, you were
also a great example of how

1452
01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:34,949
modern distributed software
engineering could work. How to

1453
01:32:34,949 --> 01:32:39,299
build community and trade value
for value in semi open source 10

1454
01:32:39,299 --> 01:32:42,869
boost 10 years early, perhaps
but somebody's got to start it.

1455
01:32:45,389 --> 01:32:49,919
Thanks a lot, bro. Keep it up.
Go podcast,

1456
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:51,660
indeed a podcast.

1457
01:32:54,330 --> 01:33:00,540
Okay, already know the answer to
this? And the answer is no. But

1458
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,050
he says PS, madam. Is there a
booster gram amount that would

1459
01:33:04,050 --> 01:33:08,130
make you do another daily source
code? Now?

1460
01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:14,310
No, there's not. There's not. I
know, there's the whole problem

1461
01:33:14,310 --> 01:33:16,500
with the daily source code is I
like playing music in there as

1462
01:33:16,500 --> 01:33:20,820
well. And that's the problem.
And I don't want to be made an

1463
01:33:20,820 --> 01:33:23,790
example of but maybe, you know,
maybe this I don't know. We'll

1464
01:33:23,790 --> 01:33:28,140
see. Let's get let's get the
music stuff running. Let's get

1465
01:33:28,140 --> 01:33:31,050
our pod pod. Let's get our
podcast license or podsafe.

1466
01:33:31,050 --> 01:33:34,230
Music license back, you know,
there's or something like it,

1467
01:33:34,230 --> 01:33:37,230
the podcast license should
encompass all. Here's how.

1468
01:33:37,470 --> 01:33:40,980
Here's how music is licensed
under the podcast license.

1469
01:33:41,700 --> 01:33:44,700
You the way you get daily source
code back is by changing the

1470
01:33:44,700 --> 01:33:47,910
world. And once the world has
changed where it's safe to do

1471
01:33:47,910 --> 01:33:48,690
it. I'll be there.

1472
01:33:48,780 --> 01:33:49,920
I'll be there. I'll be there.

1473
01:33:51,570 --> 01:33:57,000
Wilco, again, from cast ematic
says, Dave, you're a magician.

1474
01:33:57,210 --> 01:34:01,230
We heard it from the Namibian.
Adam episode. 54 Come on, Dave.

1475
01:34:01,230 --> 01:34:01,890
You can do it.

1476
01:34:03,450 --> 01:34:04,830
That's right. Is it done yet?

1477
01:34:05,910 --> 01:34:12,210
Okay. See, Mike. Oh, we all know
see my sure do 5000 SATs he says

1478
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:20,250
he's talking about he says he's
not a vet. He's a doctor. And

1479
01:34:20,700 --> 01:34:23,760
I've got my crackers I need my
paste had me wrote empathy stuff

1480
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:27,180
we said on the show where you
says he's not a vet. He's a

1481
01:34:27,180 --> 01:34:30,540
doctor and I've got my crackers.
I need my paste had me rolling.

1482
01:34:30,630 --> 01:34:31,530
Even labouisse.

1483
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:38,070
Yes, Viva La boost baby. And now
as the French say, it is time

1484
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:42,810
for love boost. A shout out to
Benjamin news. We just did the

1485
01:34:42,810 --> 01:34:44,970
Amsterdam podcast fast.

1486
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:52,620
Can we do we need titles? titles
but yeah, for people because I

1487
01:34:52,620 --> 01:34:53,070
mean like

1488
01:34:54,690 --> 01:34:59,820
oh you mean like, like night to
night and Dame titles. Okay, we

1489
01:34:59,820 --> 01:35:01,350
need to scale we just scale

1490
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:09,810
when is low or or or staff
assignments like that like the

1491
01:35:09,930 --> 01:35:14,250
bins out there Ramiz like PR in
the hell out of us and he's he

1492
01:35:14,250 --> 01:35:19,830
should be like marketing
marketing expert or something

1493
01:35:19,950 --> 01:35:23,400
like Alex Alex gates should be
the official podcasting 2.0

1494
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:24,090
consultant

1495
01:35:24,150 --> 01:35:26,550
well what you're saying is we
need nicknames for everybody

1496
01:35:26,970 --> 01:35:29,640
nicknames are we already we
already have those privately

1497
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:37,860
Dave Do you want to discuss them
all? No everyone's got nicknames

1498
01:35:37,890 --> 01:35:41,040
now I think is a good idea to
have you mean levels for

1499
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:42,630
donations or or

1500
01:35:42,660 --> 01:35:45,060
or just yeah but that sounds
like a lot of work.

1501
01:35:45,210 --> 01:35:47,490
I just like what everyone's
someone's handle as the Dred

1502
01:35:47,490 --> 01:35:50,430
Scott you know it's like I don't
know if this is real name

1503
01:35:50,730 --> 01:35:54,330
because a kid dread it's like
one letter away from drag it's

1504
01:35:54,330 --> 01:35:59,370
like no but maybe it is I don't
know that's fine I didn't you

1505
01:35:59,370 --> 01:36:03,900
know I had like, you know, so I
see Christopher I seen his books

1506
01:36:03,900 --> 01:36:08,820
I seen his handle but I like
Swedish tricolor better now all

1507
01:36:08,820 --> 01:36:11,760
of this stuff Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we know everybody's name if not,

1508
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:16,470
you know put it in your
bookstagram dress you properly

1509
01:36:17,940 --> 01:36:21,180
see Mike says PS editing a
booster gram on fountain is a

1510
01:36:21,180 --> 01:36:25,380
pain flutter not equal iOS
laughs Well we just don't Okay,

1511
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:31,950
I do I do think that the text
box in the font on fountain

1512
01:36:31,950 --> 01:36:34,920
needs to be a little bit bigger.
The touch points are a little

1513
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:40,320
hard to hit. So I would agree
with that a little bit Oh, here

1514
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:44,640
we go. Auburn Citadel ages says
from the Auburn Citadel thanks

1515
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:51,030
guys. 10,000 SATs thank you
thank you let's see one then

1516
01:36:51,030 --> 01:36:53,340
that we just that's all a
booster grants I guess monthly

1517
01:36:53,340 --> 01:36:57,930
donors here you know what we
could do there or not we because

1518
01:36:58,170 --> 01:37:02,250
I got too much already. Somebody
should do a show where that's

1519
01:37:02,250 --> 01:37:05,850
just nothing but rating booster
grants the whole show is reading

1520
01:37:05,850 --> 01:37:06,540
booster programs.

1521
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:10,080
No no no. I can tell you exactly
what we need to do because this

1522
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:14,760
is an old radio trick. We just
we just need a full time stream

1523
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,290
with a computer voice that just
reads booster grams all day.

1524
01:37:21,060 --> 01:37:22,530
How's that a radio trick?

1525
01:37:22,650 --> 01:37:25,680
Oh my god. Oh my god how many
times we've done this with text

1526
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:30,270
messages and I've done this a
million times. So it's so your

1527
01:37:30,270 --> 01:37:34,020
page your boosted Graham live
page. You just hook that up to a

1528
01:37:34,020 --> 01:37:37,860
speech generator and then
livestream it and just put music

1529
01:37:37,860 --> 01:37:41,550
under it and it's really weird.
You can change voices and like

1530
01:37:42,090 --> 01:37:48,330
Alex says postby baby yeah, all
that kind of. Okay, I like it.

1531
01:37:48,390 --> 01:37:50,160
No, like it's not that great of
an idea.

1532
01:37:50,190 --> 01:37:55,260
No, it's uh, okay, well we could
do you know, I mean, we could

1533
01:37:55,260 --> 01:37:59,010
call it friend of the show calm.
Oh, God.

1534
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:04,890
No. I'm just decided I've
decided that you're not a friend

1535
01:38:04,890 --> 01:38:06,420
of the show. You're a

1536
01:38:06,750 --> 01:38:12,180
pod pal. pod pal. That's it's
just going from bad to

1537
01:38:12,180 --> 01:38:13,890
worse and I'll tip you.

1538
01:38:16,140 --> 01:38:21,660
Monthly donors Jeremy. gerdts $5
Thomas Sullivan Jr. $5 I just

1539
01:38:21,660 --> 01:38:23,880
love that name. Thomas Sullivan
Jr.

1540
01:38:24,540 --> 01:38:27,660
It's just a great name. Like the
guy who does a lot is Eric Shane

1541
01:38:27,660 --> 01:38:28,380
Washington.

1542
01:38:29,129 --> 01:38:32,009
Oh, that's a good name too. But
you but if you ever say three

1543
01:38:32,009 --> 01:38:34,019
full names though. You're a
domestic terrorist.

1544
01:38:34,050 --> 01:38:37,590
No, no, he's he's prone for a
shooting somewhere. Definitely.

1545
01:38:38,129 --> 01:38:39,089
Never Manifesto.

1546
01:38:40,860 --> 01:38:42,150
He was a quiet man.

1547
01:38:43,950 --> 01:38:47,490
He's gonna be living in the
hills in North Carolina for 12

1548
01:38:47,490 --> 01:38:54,420
years. Tim Hudgens. My buddy $25
I just saw him tonight. David

1549
01:38:54,420 --> 01:39:01,770
would find $3 and nygma Labs
$20. Right. Sir Varga Weisz

1550
01:39:01,980 --> 01:39:06,240
think that survive on the
podcast index dot socials $5

1551
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:12,930
Keith gifts and $50 Thank you
Keith. Keith Surely it's t shirt

1552
01:39:12,930 --> 01:39:14,340
territory right by now right?

1553
01:39:14,970 --> 01:39:16,770
Yeah, we got another shipment
going out right?

1554
01:39:17,340 --> 01:39:21,990
Yeah. If anybody's waiting on a
T shirt Eric's and it'll be

1555
01:39:22,140 --> 01:39:26,250
shipping them out soon but he's
got to order some more t shirts

1556
01:39:26,250 --> 01:39:30,150
we ran out so that's that's the
holdup polar.

1557
01:39:30,210 --> 01:39:33,570
And I want to just thank Eric
personally for doing the tax

1558
01:39:33,570 --> 01:39:40,560
sheet again. Yeah. And for and
for preparing us for whatever

1559
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:41,880
shit is coming our way.

1560
01:39:43,380 --> 01:39:47,760
Yeah, people really understand
that. There's a lot of, you

1561
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:51,510
know, a whole lot of threatening
crypto stuff that would make us

1562
01:39:51,540 --> 01:39:55,920
do even if they would make it
would make life suck. So what

1563
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,970
Eric has been evaluating is how
much suck can we take off of

1564
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,440
Everybody's played. Yep, that's
pretty much it. So if the suck

1565
01:40:04,440 --> 01:40:06,540
means there's all kinds of
paperwork that has to be

1566
01:40:06,540 --> 01:40:11,370
generated or reports, I should
say, for anyone's income tax or

1567
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:15,450
anything, we want to be able to
help with that. Because we don't

1568
01:40:15,450 --> 01:40:20,880
want we don't want, we want to
be here for the long haul. And,

1569
01:40:20,910 --> 01:40:22,170
and they're gonna make a tough

1570
01:40:23,220 --> 01:40:26,010
and that's that's one of the
reasons why it's going slow with

1571
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:30,870
us running our own LMP node is
because we want one of the

1572
01:40:30,870 --> 01:40:34,380
aspects of this, not just the
building of the tag, but one of

1573
01:40:34,380 --> 01:40:38,970
the aspects of this is Eric is
doing all the research to make

1574
01:40:38,970 --> 01:40:43,440
sure that when we when we do it,
that everybody's you know, up on

1575
01:40:43,440 --> 01:40:45,900
the up and up and we get
reporting that we need and all

1576
01:40:45,900 --> 01:40:46,170
that kind

1577
01:40:46,170 --> 01:40:49,020
of jazz. Yeah, that's the main
thing is the reporting so that

1578
01:40:49,740 --> 01:40:53,400
Eric does a lot of people stuff
that people just don't see or

1579
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:53,910
understand.

1580
01:40:55,530 --> 01:40:58,080
Now no, understand for sure.
Holy shit, it

1581
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:03,690
stands for sure. Yeah, I don't
even understand. Okay, powerskin

1582
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:12,900
$11.14. And I was wondering
about what that donation amount

1583
01:41:12,900 --> 01:41:16,560
was what the numerology was. And
I sent in a note, he said, Hey,

1584
01:41:16,650 --> 01:41:19,500
Dave, just got to Episode 51,
where my monthly donation popped

1585
01:41:19,500 --> 01:41:22,590
up. Still a few episodes behind,
and you too wondered about my

1586
01:41:22,590 --> 01:41:26,970
donation number. Did you like to
boost lead, thought or thought

1587
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:35,340
or pay homage to that for a
year? So 133 70 divided by 12

1588
01:41:35,370 --> 01:41:37,650
gets to $11.14 a month.

1589
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:43,320
Oh, okay. Wow. Okay. Thank you.
Yeah, this is a cool way to do

1590
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:43,560
it.

1591
01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:46,140
Keep up the good work. One of
these days. I'm going to get

1592
01:41:46,140 --> 01:41:48,750
some free time and figure out
crypto. And then maybe I'll

1593
01:41:48,750 --> 01:41:51,990
switch from cookbooks to SATs.
Also a search for cookbooks to

1594
01:41:51,990 --> 01:41:54,900
see if I was spelling it right.
I don't know why I did either.

1595
01:41:55,980 --> 01:42:03,900
Found cookbooks calm. Oh, and
I'm a little afraid. I'm gonna

1596
01:42:03,900 --> 01:42:04,950
let you do that from your own.

1597
01:42:05,340 --> 01:42:10,710
I'll do it or have your shit.
I've got a pie hole. No, no,

1598
01:42:10,740 --> 01:42:15,570
it's cryptocurrency for
leftists. For leftist Yes, here.

1599
01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:25,290
Fine here one COC is a safe one.
cognize $797,909,000 Finally, a

1600
01:42:25,290 --> 01:42:28,110
secure digital currency for
globalist Cox

1601
01:42:32,580 --> 01:42:36,990
Oh, that's funny. Well, I like
it.

1602
01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:41,160
That's like the modern modern
day goetze.

1603
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:48,780
It's just complete troll. Yeah.
Let's see. Unlike Bitcoin, which

1604
01:42:48,780 --> 01:42:52,530
has changed price by 3000. Since
you started reading this book,

1605
01:42:52,530 --> 01:42:55,590
sir, decided to be perfectly
stable, pal. The value of one

1606
01:42:55,590 --> 01:43:02,460
cookbook is tethered to exactly
1 billion Canadians. That's

1607
01:43:02,460 --> 01:43:02,880
awesome.

1608
01:43:03,089 --> 01:43:03,929
And it's down.

1609
01:43:08,610 --> 01:43:14,790
Nice. Okay. Dwayne Goldy gave us
$8 Great name. Michael Goggin

1610
01:43:14,820 --> 01:43:20,760
gave us $5 Charles current
current $5 Christopher raymer

1611
01:43:20,790 --> 01:43:28,470
$10 James Sullivan. No relation
to Thomas Sullivan Jr. $10. Sean

1612
01:43:28,470 --> 01:43:33,150
McCune gave us $20 and Jordan
dunville. Another good name $10.

1613
01:43:33,480 --> 01:43:34,500
That's it. That's our group.

1614
01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:40,200
Great group. Thank you all so
much for completing the loop on

1615
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,810
the value for value and see how
much fun it is with the booster

1616
01:43:42,810 --> 01:43:46,020
grams with the notes and the
numerology. And it turns into

1617
01:43:46,020 --> 01:43:48,960
content. This is the this is the
dirty little secret that no one

1618
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:52,290
really wants to talk about.
People want to skip through the

1619
01:43:52,290 --> 01:43:55,680
ads. They like listening to the
booster gram corner, or the

1620
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,710
booster gram lounge or the
donation segment. Because it's

1621
01:43:58,710 --> 01:44:01,530
interesting. People have
interesting things to say. And

1622
01:44:01,530 --> 01:44:04,560
they're also experts in their
area. And it's a great feedback

1623
01:44:05,010 --> 01:44:08,490
into the show. Because we don't
know what we're talking about.

1624
01:44:09,900 --> 01:44:13,770
This is a really hilarious
website by the way. cookbooks.

1625
01:44:13,770 --> 01:44:13,920
That's

1626
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:14,760
very funny, isn't it?

1627
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:18,630
This bullet proof system makes
cookbooks the most stable way to

1628
01:44:18,630 --> 01:44:20,970
destroy your life trying to
acquire fake internet money

1629
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:23,040
okay,

1630
01:44:23,820 --> 01:44:34,440
I have to look at the mining
though. Well What a funny

1631
01:44:34,440 --> 01:44:38,070
website what else I have well
you're now I guess officially

1632
01:44:38,070 --> 01:44:42,540
the pod sage. You're boosting as
such.

1633
01:44:43,230 --> 01:44:46,140
Yes. Do I have your blessing?

1634
01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:49,110
Well, apparently it's because
you're so calm and collected and

1635
01:44:49,110 --> 01:44:52,260
like ladies, you know, you don't
live with him. Okay, but okay.

1636
01:44:53,430 --> 01:44:54,810
You don't see my tantrums.

1637
01:44:55,740 --> 01:44:58,830
I think I think you'd be well
deserving of the monitor if

1638
01:44:58,830 --> 01:45:02,520
someone else has given it to
you. Take it well I did want to

1639
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,250
mention I guess the am bees are
coming up

1640
01:45:05,820 --> 01:45:07,320
Oh your favorite time of year?

1641
01:45:07,530 --> 01:45:11,400
Yes it is it is it is ambi
season again and waiting for the

1642
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:14,400
and bees rent and who yeah here
it is would be short I just have

1643
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:20,430
to see the am bees awards for
excellence in audio. This is put

1644
01:45:20,430 --> 01:45:26,250
on by Is this the podcast
Academy? Who does this?

1645
01:45:26,820 --> 01:45:28,950
It's gotta be it's gotta be
biologist.

1646
01:45:29,429 --> 01:45:34,499
Let's see. I think it's the
podcast Academy.

1647
01:45:35,010 --> 01:45:36,630
No, it's not Yeah.

1648
01:45:37,410 --> 01:45:39,360
The podcast Academy board
members.

1649
01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:42,900
That's already I thought that
just happened.

1650
01:45:42,930 --> 01:45:47,490
I think it's I think it's the
new submissions. Probably time

1651
01:45:47,490 --> 01:45:51,360
time to submit. And it's like
this is a new category this

1652
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:54,840
year. We're all very excited
about the new category. The

1653
01:45:54,840 --> 01:46:03,270
category is best indie podcast.
Which is one of the most

1654
01:46:03,270 --> 01:46:04,860
insulting things I've ever
heard.

1655
01:46:05,610 --> 01:46:09,840
Well, aren't they all supposed
to be indie podcast? Thank you

1656
01:46:10,860 --> 01:46:18,030
in the you just insulted the
whole podcast vibe that's the

1657
01:46:18,030 --> 01:46:24,180
point Institute should be the
opposite it should be best m

1658
01:46:24,180 --> 01:46:30,210
five m cookbooks podcast Yes.
Then the little category the

1659
01:46:30,210 --> 01:46:33,270
little off to the side
encouragement and five m you'll

1660
01:46:33,270 --> 01:46:33,660
get there

1661
01:46:33,660 --> 01:46:38,760
one day well this is this is
what the show Did you see look

1662
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:39,870
at the show sponsors

1663
01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:43,680
let me get Spotify Amazon

1664
01:46:44,130 --> 01:46:47,220
well Amazon's in there Yeah. I
mean this this is some of the

1665
01:46:47,220 --> 01:46:52,440
typical ones here I get a lot of
this beginner this Adobe well

1666
01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:53,220
Dolby well they're

1667
01:46:53,220 --> 01:46:55,320
only sponsoring the pre show

1668
01:46:58,050 --> 01:46:59,340
this sponsor in the green room

1669
01:47:01,770 --> 01:47:04,680
hopefully has a one static
camera shot again this year.

1670
01:47:04,740 --> 01:47:06,000
Yep. Because ya

1671
01:47:06,570 --> 01:47:08,880
know, I guess I guess maybe
Adobe is trying to say

1672
01:47:08,970 --> 01:47:12,180
here. Here's how you do it.
Here's how you do it. You're the

1673
01:47:12,180 --> 01:47:17,760
gold sponsor Amazon. Amazon owns
wondery wondery is don't they?

1674
01:47:18,330 --> 01:47:22,410
Yeah, yeah. So as silver
sponsors are one DRI tenderfoot

1675
01:47:22,410 --> 01:47:26,370
and PR x so these are all the
people who win Yeah, that's how

1676
01:47:26,370 --> 01:47:30,240
it was how it works. I'm not I'm
not saying anyone's corrupt or

1677
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,240
anything it's just the indie
thing just bugs me it's like

1678
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:38,370
tipping. Like don't devalue shit
empty value it

1679
01:47:39,540 --> 01:47:41,820
well I'm not I mean it's okay

1680
01:47:41,820 --> 01:47:45,420
the am B's are an indie award so
who cares?

1681
01:47:48,660 --> 01:47:52,950
I've got I don't think I want to
get into this yet because I've

1682
01:47:52,950 --> 01:47:57,150
got this idea that I've written
out here for how to do pay wall

1683
01:47:57,150 --> 01:48:01,650
stuff. But I think it needs a
while I think it needs no mean

1684
01:48:01,650 --> 01:48:02,760
not I mean it's because you're

1685
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,130
looking for more you're looking
for more things to do

1686
01:48:06,750 --> 01:48:11,070
No, no, no, I just it keeps
coming up. It keeps coming up

1687
01:48:11,070 --> 01:48:13,530
and and I want to flesh out this
idea because I think it's a good

1688
01:48:13,530 --> 01:48:17,130
idea. And it's all it's a
complete idea. But I don't I

1689
01:48:17,130 --> 01:48:20,040
mean it needs about 30 minutes
to explain and i don't i think i

1690
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:24,420
don't think we have enough time
for that we I think what I would

1691
01:48:24,420 --> 01:48:29,640
rather do if you if you've got
time is just go through a few of

1692
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:31,170
these tags. Yeah, for

1693
01:48:31,170 --> 01:48:34,050
sure. Because Do I have time you
kidding me? To the board

1694
01:48:34,050 --> 01:48:39,000
meeting? Well, we're running at
149 so you know we're gonna be

1695
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,660
long But hey, I mean we didn't
have a full show last week you

1696
01:48:42,660 --> 01:48:45,510
know we need to update we had
important things to discuss like

1697
01:48:45,540 --> 01:48:46,560
your marriage

1698
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:50,730
Yeah, yeah.

1699
01:48:52,110 --> 01:48:54,090
We took a break for some
jingles.

1700
01:48:55,980 --> 01:48:59,130
debilitating diseases. Yeah,
that kind of stuff and all those

1701
01:48:59,130 --> 01:49:08,100
things. Okay. So medium is is we
already know about medium we

1702
01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:10,650
already know about live item.
The two we haven't really talked

1703
01:49:10,650 --> 01:49:14,610
about is well we've talked a
little bit about recommendations

1704
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:17,760
right this is the one I wanted
to look at Gateway

1705
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:21,960
gateway know about No, I don't
know. Recommendations I'm

1706
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:24,540
familiar with have opinions
gateway. I don't think so.

1707
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:30,360
Okay, so this is the the idea of
gateway episodes. Oh, right.

1708
01:49:31,290 --> 01:49:34,050
Okay, and here. I'm just gonna,
I'm just gonna read. It's been

1709
01:49:34,050 --> 01:49:40,560
so long who wrote this up who
wrote this up? Mark? met? Mark.

1710
01:49:42,090 --> 01:49:46,410
I don't remember his last names.
Oh, Stedman Mark Stedman. And

1711
01:49:46,410 --> 01:49:51,120
he's, so it's been, it's been
almost a year since I've read

1712
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:56,610
verbatim. podcast namespace tag.
So it seems appropriate this tag

1713
01:49:56,670 --> 01:49:59,730
when present and an item
indicates that this episode is a

1714
01:49:59,730 --> 01:50:03,870
soak. gateway episode. gateway
episodes are episodes that the

1715
01:50:03,870 --> 01:50:07,710
podcaster or maybe crowdsource
think represent the best entry

1716
01:50:07,710 --> 01:50:11,280
point into a long running show.
If a podcast has 300 episodes it

1717
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,620
might be a good idea to
designate one or more older

1718
01:50:13,620 --> 01:50:17,220
episodes as the best place to
start right I remember now yeah

1719
01:50:17,250 --> 01:50:24,270
so it's the new tag is like a
gateway in it in it's got one

1720
01:50:24,270 --> 01:50:26,760
attribute which is order so if
you had multiple gateway

1721
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,400
episodes you could say the best
way to get into this show is to

1722
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:33,000
listen to this episode first
than this one than this one then

1723
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:34,650
pick up with current

1724
01:50:35,460 --> 01:50:42,390
or or it could be the one
episode it has to be a full

1725
01:50:42,390 --> 01:50:45,510
episode it only points to an
episode can What can it point to

1726
01:50:45,510 --> 01:50:47,310
what is the value for this tag?

1727
01:50:48,300 --> 01:50:50,760
Well that that is the value is
that it points to the whole

1728
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:55,350
episode versus something like a
soundbite Got it? Or you know

1729
01:50:55,380 --> 01:50:55,590
but it

1730
01:50:55,590 --> 01:50:58,230
can be an episode for a
different can be an episode from

1731
01:50:58,230 --> 01:50:59,310
a different podcast

1732
01:51:00,780 --> 01:51:03,480
well Okay, so here's that's I
don't know and then that could

1733
01:51:03,480 --> 01:51:08,040
be because here's the here's the
way that it lays out. You just

1734
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:14,850
have an item a standard podcast
item and then the podcast

1735
01:51:14,850 --> 01:51:16,830
gateway tag is in the item

1736
01:51:16,890 --> 01:51:21,900
Ah, I see Okay, got it. Yeah, I
got it that's a perfect way to

1737
01:51:21,900 --> 01:51:24,540
do it. Okay, so it's gonna be
from your from your own Yeah, I

1738
01:51:24,540 --> 01:51:27,900
mean I would do we were for the
no agenda show would be Episode

1739
01:51:27,900 --> 01:51:36,990
201 or no 200.1 or 2.5 I think
or 100.5 200.5 300.5 we did it

1740
01:51:36,990 --> 01:51:37,830
three times.

1741
01:51:38,430 --> 01:51:42,420
Right. So you would have to in
order to do this this way, of

1742
01:51:42,420 --> 01:51:42,630
course

1743
01:51:42,630 --> 01:51:46,110
I don't have those in my feed
anymore. But that's from problem

1744
01:51:46,530 --> 01:51:49,590
to hazmat say you'd have to put
them in your feet you got to put

1745
01:51:49,590 --> 01:51:52,530
those back in your feed with the
gateway tag in it and now just

1746
01:51:52,530 --> 01:51:56,160
have to be sorted be sticky
there and never go away. Which

1747
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:57,990
is a I mean that's not bad that
wasn't

1748
01:51:58,590 --> 01:52:01,260
that's that's actually an
interesting point with the Curia

1749
01:52:01,290 --> 01:52:06,060
with the Curio, Jenny. I can't
limit the I can't live in my

1750
01:52:06,060 --> 01:52:10,230
feed. I usually have it limited
to 10 items, and now it's just

1751
01:52:10,230 --> 01:52:13,260
going to go on forever. I have
no way to pet paginate to do

1752
01:52:13,260 --> 01:52:16,050
anything. I'm sure Stephen B
will figure something out but

1753
01:52:16,050 --> 01:52:17,940
I'm just mentioning it.

1754
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:23,310
Oh, pagination so yeah drip drip
Scott sent me an email just a

1755
01:52:23,310 --> 01:52:26,580
few minutes ago and said remind
Adam to talk about RSS page a

1756
01:52:26,580 --> 01:52:27,360
nation tonight.

1757
01:52:27,780 --> 01:52:30,300
It just popped up there you go.
This just came right out of my

1758
01:52:30,330 --> 01:52:31,320
god gave it to me.

1759
01:52:33,060 --> 01:52:35,910
In God gave it to drip and drip
drip. Pass

1760
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:36,960
it off. Yes. Okay.

1761
01:52:36,990 --> 01:52:40,080
Well, so what is he talking
about this? This thing with

1762
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:40,830
Curio caster.

1763
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:47,460
He wants to he wants to. He's
dressed as a fent fantastic man.

1764
01:52:48,030 --> 01:52:51,840
He wants to go back and do
chapters and would also love to

1765
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:55,770
see transcripts, which is
doable. For all of actually he

1766
01:52:55,770 --> 01:52:59,100
wants to do all as much no
agenda as he can. He wants to

1767
01:52:59,100 --> 01:53:04,560
do. Potter Todd 100 casting 2.0
he while he wants to do mo facts

1768
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:08,820
he wants to move facts really
bad is a lot of value to that.

1769
01:53:09,210 --> 01:53:12,120
That one's Dude, that one's
doable. I mean, no agenda seems

1770
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:14,670
like a Mount Everest to climb.

1771
01:53:15,660 --> 01:53:20,400
Well, it really came up in the
context of mo fax, I think. But

1772
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:24,360
he said, You know if we do back
back episodes, yeah, he was just

1773
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:27,120
thinking ahead. It's like, Well,
I know that you only do 10 you

1774
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:30,060
keep 10 in the feed for no
agenda. And what do you mean

1775
01:53:30,060 --> 01:53:33,060
right now I've all of mo faxes
in there. But it's just growing

1776
01:53:33,060 --> 01:53:35,790
and growing. These feeds are
getting pretty big to something

1777
01:53:35,790 --> 01:53:38,970
has to happen somewhere the long
line and with no agenda. It was

1778
01:53:38,970 --> 01:53:42,510
just costing too much actual
money back in the day to be

1779
01:53:42,510 --> 01:53:46,890
pushing out 1000 episode feed
with some show notes stuff in

1780
01:53:46,890 --> 01:53:50,910
there just got wieldy and we're
going broke on the wire feed

1781
01:53:50,910 --> 01:53:51,330
broke.

1782
01:53:51,870 --> 01:53:54,330
But what's gonna happen now? I
mean, is it doable now? Or is it

1783
01:53:54,330 --> 01:53:54,810
still

1784
01:53:55,530 --> 01:53:58,320
it's much different now the way
you set set us up with the with

1785
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:05,100
the CloudFlare and all that
crap. But in general, we need I

1786
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:10,230
mean, it's just handy if there's
a way to, you know, fold 1000

1787
01:54:10,230 --> 01:54:11,220
episodes, you know,

1788
01:54:12,300 --> 01:54:17,040
but you know, it's doable, yes.
But you still have this

1789
01:54:17,070 --> 01:54:24,330
potential apocalyptic thing that
would happen. If you had 1000

1790
01:54:24,330 --> 01:54:30,570
episodes, and somehow you they
all got new gooeys I mean, that

1791
01:54:30,570 --> 01:54:30,960
would be a

1792
01:54:31,380 --> 01:54:34,950
lot on the moon, baby. That
would be bad. Yeah. Okay.

1793
01:54:35,910 --> 01:54:39,060
So, I mean, yeah.

1794
01:54:39,300 --> 01:54:45,060
Okay, so, how about this, how
about this? So, the feed, the no

1795
01:54:45,060 --> 01:54:49,620
agenda feed, and let's get to
1370 or something. I'm just

1796
01:54:49,650 --> 01:54:55,290
making it up. I guess what he's
saying is, is there a way to,

1797
01:54:56,160 --> 01:55:00,690
you know, like, it would almost
be like a tag that says Oh for

1798
01:55:00,690 --> 01:55:04,680
the next 1000 episodes use this
you were use this URL

1799
01:55:07,049 --> 01:55:08,909
What? Explain that again?

1800
01:55:11,670 --> 01:55:14,310
Yeah, you know what? I think
it's

1801
01:55:14,460 --> 01:55:17,280
Oh no, I see what you mean. I
see what you mean you're talking

1802
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:22,500
about like it Oh, we don't need
to do this because ours there's

1803
01:55:22,500 --> 01:55:26,100
already a spec for RSS
pagination. Okay. It's just that

1804
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:30,120
so few people use it. Like I
mean it did it has been around

1805
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:33,900
and and pod love uses it and
there are hosts out there that

1806
01:55:33,900 --> 01:55:38,730
use the RSS pagination spec.
It's just it's just not enough.

1807
01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:42,810
Not enough people do use it. I
mean, we could

1808
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:46,470
What if I came along with my
1400 episodes and said look at

1809
01:55:46,470 --> 01:55:51,900
me, you could do it for another
time. Okay. bookmark that and

1810
01:55:51,900 --> 01:55:57,150
stick a pin in it. Take it down
for the meeting notes. And we'll

1811
01:55:57,150 --> 01:55:58,230
circle back

1812
01:55:58,620 --> 01:56:02,310
circle Pac god you're trying to
hit every one of them let's

1813
01:56:02,310 --> 01:56:04,470
let's see what synergy we can
develop from this.

1814
01:56:04,530 --> 01:56:09,030
Well, we have the way down we
have the circle back girl.

1815
01:56:09,900 --> 01:56:17,700
circle back girl. I don't know.
I think I'll

1816
01:56:17,700 --> 01:56:21,900
circle back if there's more I
can share with you. To just

1817
01:56:21,900 --> 01:56:24,450
circle back with you. We can
talk about

1818
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:35,280
Oh, I've got I've got a good
one. New ISO shock. shock.

1819
01:56:36,330 --> 01:56:42,570
shock. Was that from this? I
keep going to the well. shock.

1820
01:56:42,690 --> 01:56:48,150
That's my Australian broadcast
TV. Oh, and defense. The defense

1821
01:56:48,150 --> 01:56:52,290
state is a good one to defend
state.

1822
01:56:52,499 --> 01:56:57,479
Oh my goodness punch. Punch to
defend state. Do you just play

1823
01:56:57,479 --> 01:56:58,199
this at home?

1824
01:56:58,770 --> 01:57:02,490
Yeah, that's what I do. That's
what I was doing before we

1825
01:57:02,490 --> 01:57:03,120
started the show.

1826
01:57:04,380 --> 01:57:07,290
is playing Australian TV. I was

1827
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:10,500
listening to Shaka damos and
pliers and a little bit

1828
01:57:10,500 --> 01:57:11,400
Australian TV.

1829
01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:14,490
I've heard them actually I've
heard Chuck Davis and

1830
01:57:16,350 --> 01:57:19,380
when James said that on his show
I had no idea what the hell he

1831
01:57:19,380 --> 01:57:24,420
would he just said I was like
something in Flash. What is this

1832
01:57:24,420 --> 01:57:28,920
English when What is this? A
machine is like a reggae band or

1833
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:29,550
something?

1834
01:57:29,580 --> 01:57:35,550
Yeah. It's it's also kind of
like a punch line.

1835
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:42,330
Okay, but we get anything else
because no I mean well.

1836
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:46,440
Okay, so what did you get
anything? Yeah, I used to really

1837
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:52,020
super busy until the October 15.
The crazies over over there

1838
01:57:52,020 --> 01:57:54,780
Yeah, and the professional
server financial services world

1839
01:57:55,230 --> 01:58:00,180
Yeah, yeah, tax times always
hard for us. But I'll it's

1840
01:58:00,180 --> 01:58:05,040
really it's really the the other
stuff that's that's holding me

1841
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:11,220
up so much the database export
stuff. And, but once we get once

1842
01:58:11,220 --> 01:58:13,050
we get past October 15,
everything will be better.

1843
01:58:13,650 --> 01:58:17,910
Okay, man. Well, thank you for
for staying extra late here.

1844
01:58:17,940 --> 01:58:22,890
Thank you ladies and gentlemen.
And have yourself a great

1845
01:58:22,890 --> 01:58:23,430
weekend day.

1846
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,430
You too, man. Enjoy your Friday
night.

1847
01:58:26,550 --> 01:58:29,460
Yes indeed. I'm about to go get
a little bit of grub throw some

1848
01:58:29,460 --> 01:58:32,220
chicken on the barbecue here and
the whole project. We'll talk to

1849
01:58:32,220 --> 01:58:34,890
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