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Sunday, May 14 2017. This is your award winning give on
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Niner This is no agenda,
watching 43 Mediocre pop songs being performed so you don't
have to and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the
Capitol the drone Star State in the studio in the morning
everybody. I'm Adam curry
from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm coming in loud and not
so clear. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Okay, you're okay. I mean, we just we strive for protective
protection for perfection on the show. This protection we want
protection to but we strive for performance strive for
protection. Yeah, we do we strive for
you. Okay, let's start off with this stupid event that you'd
like to watch. Oh, the year of no American you don't even show
it on American TV. It's so
on. It's on logo TV. And logo TV. Yeah. Which I think is only
streaming. But they they do have the they have American guest
hosts and one of them is Ross Ross from the Hollywood today.
Your favorite chair
Ross, the gay guy that used to be on the Leno Show. Yeah, that
guy. He's the guy that they got. They did it last year too.
Little brother. Okay.
Yeah. And they and they try everyone's trying to do a little
bit of the Sir Terry Wogan, but he died a couple of years ago in
the UK UK it's only one I believe once or twice a year
with some really sappy Poppy song like bucks phase or I don't
know. And but he also because they would always lose it became
this you know this whole this whole thing
before you go on and on. I don't think we use the word Eurovision
yet for listeners to know what the hell we're talking about.
Eurovision Song Contest is a bit for how long has it been around
now? Is it 40 years or something is
more asking me.
Do you want to report I just want to be a dick. Because I'm
ready. I'm ready for you. I'm ready for you, Mike. Boy.
I have not heard of this thing in my life until you told me
about it about five years ago.
Right? The Eurovision Song Contest, which is not Europe
alone. It is members of the Eurovision Consortium, which
started off as a satellite television project. I don't
remember exactly when but I can remember it as far back as you
know, I was 10. And so look it up. Well, you know what's,
what's interesting about it is that it is not European, because
they have a lot of countries who both Russia has not officially
Europe. But Ukraine where it was hosted is not officially Europe,
Israel participates and is usually highly politically
charged. And they've changed this voting throughout the
throughout the years, where you could always tell you know,
Russia would would either be pro and vote for Ukraine or not vote
for Ukraine, the Scandinavian countries would vote for each
other, the Dutch for the Belgian, the Belgians for the
Dutch, the French for the Belgium, they would just go back
and forth. And so they created this panel of professional
judges. And then they combine that with a televote. And of
course, people cannot vote for their own country. But that's
where you really see the favoritism pop up. So it's
always interesting to see. And you know, we've called this
correctly a couple of times in the past based upon geopolitical
issues. This was a different year. Yes.
1956 is where it's officially began, which is way back before
I was born. And it's actually based on the existing Sarah Remo
music festival held in Italy since 1951. Ah,
thank you. Well, there you go. But it really turned into a you
know, a Bring, bring the world together type of no borders, no
nations type of thing. Yeah,
it's a one world government. Yeah.
And what's what's cool about it, or I don't know if you want to
call it just a cool is. I don't know when I was nine. I
think you nailed it. Yeah,
exactly. There's nothing cool about it. But it's it's supposed
to be about the song. So it's the composer, the songwriter and
composer, not about the artist. But of course, it's now become a
place to showcase your country. And the I was we because I
really didn't put any effort into it this year, knowing how
you hate it, and don't hate it. And then we got a comment from
one of our producers donated and said, Hey, I need to know I need
to look smart. And of course I steered him completely wrong. I
said, Well, right now I think maybe France would be a good
country to win just GOP.
Oh, you didn't know you predicted it straight up
straight up in the last show.
I said I hadn't paid any attention to it. Let me just
think quickly. That's exactly what I said. So I didn't I
didn't. What are you trying to do that? Don't do? Don't be like
this today. Okay, okay. I'm irritated when you do that.
Good. Go. Here's the winner.
Have you been through the report next time? I will?
And that's the winner. There you go, everybody fine. That's the
end of my report sounds pretty generic. Yeah, send in my report
that is Portugal who won. I think that this was it's not
generic. In fact, it was the exact opposite. Everybody had a
poppy song, like they always do. And this was a completely
different genre. It's stuck out way above everything. And it
just seems that they tried to get Bulgaria to when, in fact,
it was comments through blogger, this is what I found kind of
interesting, who had been chasing all the Google trending
stats. And he said, you know, based upon what he's seeing from
Google and the way the algorithms are reacting so it
looks like Bulgaria is going to win they came in second they
almost won. So maybe that was supposed to happen, but man the
French song was it was an actual song that was completely
different wasn't bubblegummy it was a different song in
Portuguese song and it I think that's why one day that Bulgaria
made a lot of sense in hindsight and I should have guessed
Bulgaria or deduced Bulgaria so I think for once a music
actually one well, good yeah. Now the reason I'm also
irritated so we spent half an hour trying to fix whatever's
going on on your end your real dick to work with when it comes
to that because you always yell at me and
yell and I'm just Yeah,
nothing nothing came
and and so I have exaggerating is sure I am and so I have this
beautiful iPad Mini and you know, the Claudio has carpeting
you know how when you drop a peanut butter and jelly sandwich
or something a piece of toast?
Oh, now we're getting down and hoping to land sandwich face
down.
Yeah, right onto the bottom the base of my stool. cracked the
screen. I don't even watch Yeah, crack the screen. It fell right
onto the base and they could have landed on the carpet. No,
it landed right onto the base of the stool.
Talking about you this way you worked with me? You broke what
you're talking about an iPad, little iPad.
iPad Mini. Yeah.
How delicate are these things?
It landed flat on its face not even on the corners flat on its
face with significant gravity. Oh force, gravitational force.
And I knew that from a table. Yeah, from table height and a
standing table height I knew I knew it the minute it was there
I knew is standing table that's a little for is a goner. It's a
goner to gone.
Anyways, things. And you know, you think after all these years,
especially with something like Oh LEDs, which can be actually
bent and rolled up that they would make these display so
they're not so damn delicate. You can't have things that you
hold like that. You're gonna drop them this was going to what
you do? Well, that would
be kind of like if we were running that company, we'd say
the same. Young people die new ones.
Whoo. Yeah, appeal by newest as the real reason if you think
about it, and also
today, everybody in the world of political correctness and social
justice warriors, be very careful. You do not commit a
micro aggression against the motherless on this day, okay. No
one thinks about that.
And yes, you're right. No one thinks about that. And
yeah, in today's world, in today's world, you should say
you should say, is your mother still with us? And you say yes
or no? Well, then Happy Mother's Day. If not, you know, you need
to know it's like a pronoun thing. I go by pronoun. No, mom.
Everyone has a mother though. That's the joke of it.
Yeah, but you can't it's hard to celebrate when your mom's dead.
Well, I think you can celebrate by I mean, I wish a happy
Mother's Day to my wife.
Oh, of course. Of course. Of course. That's three of courses
in a row. Anyway, speaking of which, where's the baby? Picture
your promise? Did you put that in the newsletter? Finally.
I never promised to put a baby. Yes, you did. You said you would
put on Oh, yeah, maybe I did.
And he has a name doesn t isn't his name Seth or something like
that. So it's like the worst name you can have as a dude.
Seth.
I did a little research on the name Seth because there's so
many of these Seth MacFarlane Seth Green. Seth Rogen said good
stuff. So I distinguish that there were all born around the
same time there was somebody there. The 80s 80s some point in
the 80s they're all born within two or three years of each
other. So I have to assume there is a kind of a mother set a set
of
medicines. You mean a medicine is a medicine that who is it? I
don't know medicine if that's Good question. That's a question
for the War Room.
The word Hey,
how about Seth Rich?
Know that the baby's name is officially Theodore.
Theodore? Yeah, you call it your door. Wow. That's an interesting
choice.
There's a big debate on on what to call him. The middle name is.
Hi, Bob. Come on. Boy, you call them TED or Teddy?
No, it's the Ted Ted. Nobody wants Ted. They want Theo fee, I
think and I said, I said to myself, well, they I didn't know
that they were Cubs fans.
This is a joke that is lost on me. Of course.
Yes, of course. And vo or even Red Sox fans for that matter.
But so Theo is one of them as you want to call them and then
that somebody else had t j as auditor with my secret but
there's no J.
Does he have a middle name with a see
it? It's Theodore. Oh, no. Here it is here. It is. Christiansen
Dvorak.
Theodorus. Okay, so do you have Mimi's name in there? And and
last name Christiansen and the Vortech. And that's hyphenated.
So it's the big long crazy name and this, but it's got no
there's you can't call on T S? You can't call? I mean, there's
no j should have been theater. John. It'd be right. TJ, TJ,
TJ J Get over here. Those
terms. So they call on them? T three? T three. They don't know
what to call it.
They Are they insane. The Terminator? You go
T three EZr idea with the point.
Son, you're new to the class. What's your name? Id good, I can
hear him. He's gonna be great. So
Theo is looking at our Theodore Theodore. I don't know why they
came up with that name. But I did I was it's not least I
didn't call him Cody. Now we do have a number of Cody listeners
by the way in what they write one of them at least wrote in
complaining to me about ridiculing the name Cody. And I
said, Well, you know, you're you're one of the better ones.
So here's a clip. I've got a clip on.
You actually have a clip about this topic. Bring it up. I did.
Okay, how'd you know that?
Just a lucky guess. Because I did make a promise to do that.
I'm going to in the next newsletter, I'm putting a baby.
No one wants a baby picture. What are the kids that are okay
with kids aren't all you have to ask the parents if they're okay
with that?
I did. I said can I exploit the baby in the newsletter? Yeah,
he's worked here.
It's got to start working for the family come on and do some
action here. So here's a little clip that it that talks about
the most popular names and I am actually kind of off put by
these names.
For the third year in a row, the most popular baby name for
girls.
Wait, let me guess. Popular baby name for girls. third year in a
row, third year in a row.
Hillary No, Hillary, Hillary.
No, it's not Hillary.
It is not a dolt. Because the AMA
ama ama
AMA has been extremely popular ever since Emma Watson right the
Emma's because people can damned There's a famous actress list
they might baby
Yeah, that'll that guarantees success in heroin addiction,
followed by Olivia Ava and Sophia for boys.
It's Noah Liam William and Mason,
Noah. Yeah, Noah is number one. No Wiley, another actor. Geez.
Know why they know while he's cute. Let's name our baby Noah.
T you're not naming him no because of the ark.
And let's face it. That was pretty cool, dude. I mean that
quite an accomplishment there that ark thing.
Now it was no I don't know what the other two in the middle were
but the last one was Mason.
For girls is Emma followed by Olivia Ava and Sophia for boys.
It's Noah. Liam William and Mason. A fine choice. Steve is
number 988 Here
we go again. No, Liam. Neeson, Liam Neeson, Nielsen, whatever
is nice. That that's why they named it why why would Liam in a
million years be a popular name? The second most popular in the
world above Stephen and Jim. And all this normal Jab. Jab. Liam.
So Liam, come on. And so then William Prince William.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but yes, yes, yes.
Yes. And then but the one I don't get you're gonna have to
explain to me Is Mason Mason? How does Mason become a popular
name? Whose name Mason, that we that is a famous actor.
Hmm, I we still haven't, Seth? I mean, not Seth. But the other
one. The other one? What? The Theodore? No, no, no. Do you
write Seth? Seth sec. That's we haven't figured out we we don't
know that.
Yeah, that that's not on the list that was in the Mason
Mason. Mason is on the list. And so that means something
currently happening involves a person named Mason. My wife used
to always say that wow, that 90% of these names are from soap
operas, but the number of soap operas is declined a lot, I
think to three. And so I don't think I don't know that there's
a Mason in any of the soap operas that people are named
camp. How
about sports? Maybe instead of No,
there's nobody sports. There's nobody in sports day Mason.
Yeah, there's
tons of them. Name one. Mason Crosby Mason Finley Mason foster
Mason Phelps. Mason rage Mason, Raymond. These are all football
players.
A lot of football players. No one's ever heard of these guys.
I'm just reading the wiki I never heard of any of those
people about mason jar. That's it. That's the reason mason jar.
Kid after a jar. They know that.
It's the mason jar is popular. It has a resurgence the kids
after
the mason jar? Yeah, what should we name or kid honey? I don't
know. Let me crop Oh, let me try. I got I got mug. I got ball
and I got Mason balls the other big jar maker.
Okay, good. Yeah. Naming ball. All I need to know as has. Has
he chosen his his gender identity yet?
I asked about that at the table. You did not? I did do. Okay. The
answer is the not yet.
Not yet.
Amazing. Well, congratulations. And please wish was Jesse. Yeah.
Happy Mother's Day from us.
Yes. Well put her on the list. Well, what? Let's nevermind. All
right.
Let's move to another topic, I want to get into something that
I studied a bit over the weekend. It didn't get a lot of
play. But I read a lot of blogs, or most of the blogs, I think
that are government based technology blogs and what's
going on with you know just how they're handling information
technology and government. And we had a new executive order
signed. Last night, President Trump,
about an hour ago signed an executive order on
cybersecurity. And that executive order, among other
things, is going to keep his promise that He has made to the
American people to keep America safe, including in cyberspace,
I'd like to do a few things. I'll promise you that we
distribute the executive order. But if I could, I'll preview the
executive order for you walk you through three primary sections,
some of its wave tops, and then take your questions. Among other
things, at least as an observation for me, I think the
trend is going in the wrong direction in cyberspace. And
it's time to stop that trend and reverse it on behalf of the
American people.
If they stopped if they stopped. This guy is a robot by the way,
just let him just let him finish. 10 more seconds.
We've seen a little bit like that Wally into beaver.
If he's a robot, it's time to stop
that trend and reverse it on behalf of the American people.
We've seen increasing attacks from allies, adversaries,
primarily nation states, but also non nation state actors.
And sitting by and doing nothing is no longer an option. So
President Trump's action today is a very heartening one.
Okay, I looked at his executive order, there's a call for a lot
of reporting, we have to figure out what's going on. It does
seem to cover all the bases, although I'm not so. So all in
on in the recommendation of front being following the NIST
cybersecurity framework. You know that apparently, the
National Institute of Standards and Technologies at its
standards and things stand just NIST? Yeah. What is the T stands
for Technology?
Yeah, National Institute of Science and science.
Yeah, I thought was standard. So who knows? We'll find out. And,
and yeah, so they have a protocol that they've written
up, which already to me says if you're publishing how we're
securing our networks, don't you kind of like, show what we're
doing? And if anybody thinks that you've been hard and
everything this is about human beings, the way you fight cyber
actors is by having smart dudes and dudettes named Ben going in
and fighting him back. But okay. But the coincidence of this
coming right at the moment where we have now, they have not
really been in But to find any factual evidence that this most
recent malware that is, you know, the ransomware that is the
head had been going around for bid couldn't really find any any
proof that that is, you know, because of NSA or CIA tools that
were stolen or leaked or anything, but I did find the
coincidence. Sorry.
I'm just gonna say I do have a clip from Artie. And that's the
only claim they make which is all NSA NSA NSA and they named
some let's let's
play that now then because that will that make sense in the in
the story? Which one is it here?
This is a mall pan going on and on he I think he sounds like an
idiot in this particular report. But yeah, who I can't find the
clip off Panama pan Maupin
Yeah, that doesn't. There's nothing that starts with an M.
And that's because I'm, you know, me. German World Economic
view, West Virginia. Ransomware mopan, ma UPA and ramble
in response to the hacking attack. We have world famous
whistleblower Edward Snowden speaking up on Twitter, he
writes, whoa, NSA decision to build attack tools targeting us
software now threaten the lives of hospital patients. It seems
he's referring to the fact that this is technology that was
being used this this malware software known as ransomware,
that encrypts data and then demands ransom. In order to give
the data back to the institution or individual being hacked. It's
known as as as ransomware. And it was developed by the US
government, the NSA, the National Security Agency,
apparently developed this software, with their own
research and with their own their own investigations and
financed projects, and it was then leaked onto the internet by
Shadow Brokers with
Shadow Brokers, Shadow Brokers, any explanation on that I would
have stopped the interview right there.
Where do I get a shadow he doesn't go he doesn't go any
deeper into it. He says they're a bunch of douchebags
leaked onto the internet by Shadow Brokers, which is a shady
group that has been leaking NSA,
oh, it's a shady group. In the shadows, there are shady group
hacking
tools onto the the gang.
I think it is a guy
there in the in the shadows by
Shadow Brokers, which is a shady group, leaking NSA hacking tools
onto the internet.
I'm gonna put that in my business card. Hi, I'm Adam
curry Shadow Broker.
So it seems this is also not the first time that that ransomware
has been used. Apparently ransomware is affected. It's
been used against hospitals and telecommunications companies in
Europe, in Russia, in various parts of Asia. And in even in
Los Angeles. Just over a year ago, a hospital in Los Angeles
was targeted with a ransomware attack man paid over $17,000 in
ransom to get its encrypted information back. So apparently
this is happening all over the world. And this is technology
that was developed by the US government agency said to
protect the security of Americans. The National Security
Agency developed this software and it's now being used by
criminals around the world to demand ransom very, very
interesting discovery and development
and the New York Times right off the bat the lead hackers
exploiting malicious software stolen from the National
Security Agency executed damaging cyber attacks on Friday
that hit dozens of countries worldwide, forcing Britain's
public health system to send patients away freezing computers
and Russia's interior ministry and wreaking havoc on 10s of
1000s of computers elsewhere. And I don't know if they will of
course they list Kaspersky is the guy who the Russians are the
ones who saying yes, clearly. This was NSA tool and
technology. Yes. They formed a group called the Shadow Brokers.
Come on New York Times. Come on. Sad. Well, there's
a couple of things I find distressing. One is that
ransomware they make it sound like this just showed up. I
mean, this has been going on for years. Yeah, two or three years
I've heard about ransomware but
it's it's fun to make it all scary again, because we're all
going to die because hospital.
Now the and it took a while before they finally attacked a
hospital which was a number I think at least a year or two
ago. And I don't think the original ransomware was any NSA
stuff. I mean, maybe it's possible, but I know that there
was some ransomware code in the in the in the cache of stuff
pulled from the NSA maybe that's what they're doing. I think the
point I'm trying to make but they're kind of lame at making
it or actually they're doing a good job.
I have a theory
the point I think they're trying to make the news media is that
whatever we develop the problem is that the good the bad guys
get a hold of this and then they can wreak havoc including spying
tools, right? But as he knows lame
well Again, this is coincidentally in the same, the
same timeframe as the President's executive order. I'm
just saying it's always a money Bonanza, we know it. I mean
this, you read that executive order, it's money all over the
place. I mean, we should be going in and pitching ideas. We
should and we could get, we could get some money, we could
get some money, I would hope, but it's something else is going
on with this particular wave. And it leads me to think about
some other alternative options. There's a new player, a new
shill in the game, it used to be CrowdStrike. Of course, these
are the guys that examined the DC C's computer networks after
the so called DNC see the so called Russian hacking. They did
not lie.
Are these the same servers that were never looked at by the FBI
because the DNC never wanted anyone else to see him except
these guys would make that stupid map?
Well, there's new guys with a new stupid map. And that they
have an added twist, which I'll get to in a moment. The company
is malware tech, and they are doing interviews. The I think
the CEO, he's doing Skype interviews, and it looks like
just from his office alone. It just feels like a 12 man company
kind of deal, which could be a billion dollar company. And
here's an interview on CNN, listen carefully.
Alright, welcome back. We're getting new information on the
massive cyber attack users in nearly 100 countries, security
experts say the hackers,
what is it? What is this nearly 100? No. And let me look at the
New York Times thing for a second. That's kind of
hyperbole. If you owe 74 countries, according to The New
York Times, that's not almost 100.
The hackers have been paid
at least closer to 1000 $1,000. But
a cyber expert tells CNN the malware called wanna cry has
been halted, at least for now. But not before it infected 1000s
of computers locking down and telling users to pay up or risk
losing all of their data. What can anyone do to protect their
data? protect themselves from this, this virus? Anything?
Yeah. So So first, and most important, people should patch
their systems. Their computer was patched from an update.
Shut up. And listen, don't be a douche. Listen, this is
important. You'll be writing about this. Are you interested
in I
just got out of out of IV to my Ivy League school professor
then say that instead of just making noise, when you make
noise, I know you're not listening,
go on that but
patch their systems. If their computer was patched from an
update that was released by Microsoft in March, then they
would have been protected. Oh,
hold on a second. If they had been patched in March, they
would have been protected. I follow these patterns. This
before I follow these patches and stuff from Microsoft i I
tweeted something about this. I said I'm Microsoft's fault is
things even even work at all. And now and then somebody said,
Send me a tweet back. He's saying that way I know, if you
had patched yourself in March with and I'm thinking this is
nonsense. Malware can I mean, if you can get into if anything, if
any of these systems can get into into the into the operating
system at all, it can do this. It could create a malware
ransomware situation, it seems to me Listen to Pat, probably
the patch may have blocked the one thing.
Sure. All right. So when you can take your head out of Silicon
Valley for a second and just listen to the messaging this guy
is sending you might understand. But okay.
But there are also legacy systems that a lot of for
example, healthcare systems have to use an a patch was not
released for those such as Windows XP,
this is this is what this is the messaging. Forget about the
whole ransomware pain
being paid off by Microsoft. Yes,
exactly. And I wouldn't put it past Microsoft to say, Hey,
guys, we're gonna release something and we're not gonna do
a patch for XP for that. We're just gonna do a patch for
Windows 10. And then let's see if all the hospitals don't want
to upgrade now. That's, that's what's going on here.
I really, you know, the other thing is, I'm kind of doubting
that the ransomware I'd be targeting these old XP systems.
Why not? If you're Microsoft and you want to sell windows,
if you're Microsoft? Yes, that's what you want to do. Yeah, I
mean, I'm thinking of a real cyber criminal.
Yeah, a real cyber criminal who gets paid to make X people
talking about a real cyber criminal who's a cyber criminal,
not some shill paid by, you know, Microsoft or, or one of
these operations is
a real cyber criminal. isn't you know he's gonna go get real
money from somewhere he's not going to fool around with this
bullcrap.
She's just, yeah, these are all nerves. But now
here's the great thing about this. This malware tech.com They
have a map. They have a cyber map. And you can find it at
Intel dot malware tech.com. But they had there's a little
there's a little button. What is this button? I gotta read it
tell you what this button says. Hold on. So I'm gonna bring up
the map now. Oh, it's called Norse mode. November Oscar
Romeo, Sierra echo. And when you do it now, when you turn on
Norse mode, then it gives you sound. So we're seeing had you
had this map up any chance?
I'm trying to get it up here.
We write down that time code
will work. Yeah, now we're check.
I'm trying to get it off. You said okay. Here, I'll send this
link to you. This is really these guys are just taking it to
a whole new level. So it's very familiar map and give this to
them looking at I'm giving this to the war room. I
don't see the arrows going back and forth with me. No,
but if you turn on Norse mode, which I'll do now this is what
you hear
with every head hearing
do you guys doing? Yeah, of course
it is. It's exactly what it is. Guys. This is their map. So
they've added enhancements with sound for the little blow up of
the cyber attack. There's another one John. Oh, no. Oh,
no. Oh, no. New York's getting hit. Oh, it's pew pew
ridiculous.
Yeah. So this made me only think more this is a scam this all
these guys this whole thing is a scam. Well, they
took it to the next level. They don't have they don't have the
animation they get. I'm looking at the live map. And it's just
shows these things being two things going off. Yeah, but
doesn't have the thing firing from left to right. I know this
is well, this is not as good.
No, but it's a start. I love it. I just love it.
What kind of idiots do we have in Congress and around the world
and that that buy into all this crap?
Well, the same kind of idiots who continue to equate the
Trump's firing of Comey with Watergate. And I did not have a
chance to watch the movie, Dick. Sadly, I didn't get a chance to
look at that. Because I we know that the comparisons really are
way off. But Lester Holt of course had from NBC. NBC, yeah.
Had his interview with with the President. And pretty much
consistently everyone's talking about this being cover up like
Watergate. Democracy is is dead effect. Let's play this one to
start off with just to give you a little flavor. This, of
course, is a CNN CNN panel. Philip Mudd, who is a frequent
guest these days.
He's former PHILIP MUDD is related to Roger mud
noise, a former CIA douche. I don't know if he's related or
not. Just Just listen to how he how he categorizes this, the
firing of Comey
let me I know this is gonna sound facetious. I'm breathing a
sigh of relief. You can't take this seriously. You could have
taken this seriously from President Bush or President
Obama from President Bush's father, from President Clinton.
You can't take this seriously. It's you feel like you gotta
give the president united states a pacifier in a rattle and put
them in the crib. You're threatening the FBI who's in the
midst of an investigation of presidential aides. The FBI has
been around since 1908. The Pres. United States had been
around for three and a half months. If you think you're
going to intimidate the FBI, the former FBI director in the
dozens of people in the workforce who are conducting
talking about
how he's talking about the about Trump saying his tweet said,
Well, I hope you were recordings you weren't taped, which, you
know, everyone's reading this by saying, Oh, you think he's
taping everybody? I read it very differently. I read it to say,
Hey, I got wiretaps. How about you maybe your wiretaps, I
didn't get it as a threat. It was immediately categorized as a
threat. And I finished this clip here.
The FBI has been around since 1908. The Pres. United States
have been around for three and a half months. If you think you're
going to intimidate the FBI, the former FBI director in the
dozens of people in the workforce who are conducting
this investigation with the Department of Justice. You got
another thing coming nobody believes the president knighted
states from the day he came in and misrepresented how many
people showed up at the stupid inauguration to the claims he
made at the beginning about where the President of the
United States his predecessor was born. Nobody believes this
guy anymore, which is why I look at the threaten the tweet and
can't take it seriously. The man I have any credibility.
I have immense respect for For you, we talk all the time i You
can't call the inauguration stupid, but where you're out
know the credit claims of who how many people showed up? That
was ridiculous.
First of all, we look a little bit like a a 20th century Banana
Republic at the moment. Oh, yeah, this is outrageous.
Second,
neither Banana Republic part is listening to these guys. Guys is
a he's what kind of a person is this? How can they see he put up
is that is this the new perspective of the CIA? I
would think this Yeah, that this he's being sent out this is the
guy.
This is outrageous, outrageous. Second thing. This is 9919 73 in
1973, the president could have assumed that he owned the tapes.
Those are federal records. Thanks to Richard Nixon's court
challenges. Not every moment on those tapes would be federal
records, but most of them they are federal records. So he
couldn't even destroy them in 1973. Richard Nixon, actually,
before the subpoenas could have destroyed the tapes, I don't
believe there are tapes, but if there are,
this is not going to be a very long administration.
Oh, see, this is all this Watergate comparison. Now we
have Jason Johnson, who is oh,
you know, this is why the you know, my two buddies, but to
left requires your
journalist, professor, a professor and Marianne,
this is why okay, this is interesting, because I, I know
there's been this sort of messaging going on, but these
two guys are now about to take bets. That that this is the
latest?
Oh, wait a minute, are you gonna win money again? Oh,
it's like taking candy from a baby guys. The the upcoming bet
appears to be that Trump will be impeached and out of office
within the next 100 days. Of term serious. That's exactly
what they're thinking. And this is where they're getting it from
that. What did I have on? And are they still think in article
25?
Yeah, yeah, in fact, an article 25 was in one of the most recent
emails,
because I do have this was from the independent members of US
Congress are apparently holding private conversations about
whether Donald Trump should be removed from office. And this
would be under Article 25. And here it is the way it's
explained in the article, the 25th Amendment added in 1967
allows the president to be removed if they are deemed to be
unable to discharge the powers and duties of this office. This
judge that judgment can be made either by the Vice President and
a majority of the cabinet, which will be the way to go or buy a
separate body, such as a panel of medical experts appointed by
Congress.
I think the word medical experts is the key phrase. Yeah.
Because didn't say doctors just said, but I think
is this is the 60s. Okay, article 67. Why was it put in
there? I mean, I'm sure 25 Why was it put in there in 1967?
What happened? And you would know 1967 What happened?
Oh, thank you. I don't know. I mean, either Lyndon Johnson was
probably perceived by many as being completely nuts, which he
was. And he was the president. He ended up in the Vietnam War
is completely out of control. It was pre Nixon. So it couldn't be
about Nixon. And by the way, if anybody could have been taken
out using that article 25, or whatever, it would have been
Nixon because he was crawling around and all these things you
heard about. And interesting. Okay, and have it continue with
your thinking because I think it's explaining a lot to me.
Yeah.
Well, now we'll go to Jason Johnson of the root, who appears
on also on CNN, and I like his words. I didn't know he was such
an expert in everything.
He said. How do you say it?
Like I said, this is this is how democracy dies. And that's not
hyperbole.
Okay. Wow. It's not hyperbole. Yeah, it is. Exactly. Hyperbole,
is by definition, exactly. Because democracy is not a thing
that can actually die literally die, as in the life snuffed out
of it. That would be a figure of speech. But he say, No, it's not
hyperbole. It is it thank you. It is the definition of
hyperbole. A thing like democracy doesn't actually
literally die.
Deke Jason, how do you say it? Like I said, this is this is how
democracy dies. And that's not hyperbole. When you have a
situation where issues of national security are sublimated
in favor of the personal desires, whims and loyalty
pledges to the President of the United States, that is no longer
a functioning democracy. This is a clarion call to every single
member of Congress
phrase from the Shay's clarion call. Yeah. What's that? What
does it entail? was the Clarion refers to
some sort of a verse. To me, I always visualize it as someone
with a big horn, and they're honking it. And it's from the
Greek era of Clarion, do to do this, like Paul Revere,
kind of, but
knighted states, that is no longer a functioning democracy.
This is a clarion call to every single member of Congress to
stand up and call for an independent investigation of
this entire administration above and beyond what happened with
Russia. So it doesn't matter who the president no matter who he
picks to replace him. This is a constitutional and a sovereignty
crisis crisis to say this, Chris Nelson, I think this is really
important at the end of the day, call me probably should have
gotten fired anyway. But the timing of this is what makes it
so problematic. And the reason why the administration did it,
basically, because he wouldn't give them a cheat sheet about
his testimony last week. That's not how democracy is supposed to
function. It just seems Chris, it seems really unlikely that
James Comey would have a sit down with President Trump and
say, you're not under investigation. What good
investigator does that that doesn't make any sense. When
it's an ongoing investigation. We know the president that has a
tendency to lie, but even going back to Rosenstein and I, I pity
him in a way in this situation, if your boss comes to you and
says, Look, tell me how to do something. Right. You know, it's
his job to provide that information. But it's sort of
like, Oh, gee, I'm not saying I did it. But here's how I would
if you had great
concerns, or unhinge? Yeah.
And so, you know, he didn't want to end up getting blamed for
this ultimately, because he still has to walk through the
hallways of the FBI and maintain relations with career DiPel with
career investigators, and he wants to make sure that the
blood is not on his hands as a scandal spreads
Jason Johnson is doing here is concocting before your very eyes
and actual conspiracy theory. They just have to call it what
it is not quite as good though as Bob Schieffer. Bob sheep. Now
is Bob Schieffer from Fox News he Fox. No, no, no, he's CBS.
CBS Bob Schieffer.
I think he I think him Yeah, it's either NBC or CBS. But when
I see think CBS I think a John Dickerson but Shaffer may
Schieffer sheet for me, for him and I see the amendment the ABS
CBS. Well, of course, Bob Schieffer is old enough to have
witnessed the Watergate scandal. Oh, yeah. And just to just to
let everybody know, even though very few people know what the
scandal really was about anymore, and there are elements
that are being cherry picked to compare it to this particular
situation. It was so severe at the time that now every scandal
has the word gate stuck onto the end. Exactly. The just, I mean,
this is pretty severe stuff. Here she for severe gate, severe
gates, yes, unhinged gates. There you go. unhinged gate
perfect. The here's Schieffer, CBS
News contributor Bob Schaeffer cover the Nixon administration
that solves that question many others during his very stellar
career. He's with us now from Washington. But first, let's
just say it's really good to see you really good to see you in
Washington.
In other words, I glad to see that you can still walk in your
Cumbria
The Walking Dead ages and much No,
I don't think so. Let's see you in Washington and on the
satellite this morning. So Well, thank you very much, you. Just
hearing your voice. So Bob, is this a fair comparison?
You know, there are many parallels to Watergate. But I
have to tell you, I think all the way back to the Kennedy
assassination to draw parallels I was there as you know, I have
always felt because Lee Harvey Oswald had been put on trial, a
lot of these conspiracy theories that are still circulating today
would have been put
at rest, then. Wow, that's, you know, I was listening to some
some right wing talk radio. And this this, this has become a
meme. Yeah. Well, I think the really the main the meme is oh,
well, you know, if Harvey Oswald was put to trial, they would no
longer there would never exist in the history of mankind, a
conspiracy theory.
Exactly. I'm shooting holes in the conspiracy theory. Well,
there's also as I looked into this a little bit, there is a
theory, that conspiracy theory that has been around longer than
I've been alive, or they've been into conspiracy theories, that
the Nixon Watergate scandal got so blown out of proportion or
was somehow plan to fail, because they needed to cover up
the assassination of Kennedy. And there's some circumstantial
evidence in the Nixon tapes that he was referring to, oh, man, we
can't have them opening up the whole Bay of Pigs thing again,
and I didn't get too deep into it because it doesn't really
matter. But there is something to To see for his onto something
in a way but another is unhinged clearly. To even bring this up,
but you want unhinged. You need to listen to mica Of course.
Mica over there at the morning Joe's with the MSNBC.
I have to ask you something. Yeah. I don't watch the show
because it's on two in the morning till six in the morning
or something. It's on so early. And but I recorded it because I
watched the the Saturday Night Live take off. Yeah, I don't
know if you saw this, of course. Yeah. Last week. I saw I watched
it I went this this deck because I haven't seen the show or I
haven't watched the show for years. I had watched the joke of
it and I said this is nuts. Is this anything close to the real
show? I recorded and watch the show. It was spot
on and Mika's head movements of the way she leans back and voice
she mouths words of mica was nailed
I go to Effect I was stunned by how good that parody was being
it was like so and against looking over like you know and I
saw that too. Yeah,
exactly. Well here is mica is a little freaked
out I personally think it's over I don't think there's anything
that can be done that can stop this at this point. Cacophony
this gushing of lies problems questions chaos that will stop
this presidency in its tracks because they won't be able to
get anything else done. And tomorrow there will be something
new and tomorrow there will be something new there was always
more chaos on the horizon.
There's a cover up I think that was a prompter flub. Because
when she said that something new and she said it exactly the same
way again it's almost like there was on the next line and a
rolled up and she just read it
and once in a while it's not once in a while a prompter will
actually present the line twice that I think that's what I think
you're dead down on it that was a prop prompter promises reading
from a prompter word by word whatever it says it says I'm a
big jerk show read it
and tomorrow there will be something new there was always
more chaos on the horizon.
There's a cover I want to hear the doubling again that's what I
missed sorry I
won't be able to get anything else done and tomorrow there
will be famines where do you go somewhere here rabbits problems
questions chaos that will stop this presidency in its tracks
because they won't be able to get anything else done and
tomorrow there will be something new and tomorrow there will be
something new
wow it's your I think it's either the prompter doubled it
or it was some someone messed up
there was all prompter gate always more chaos on the
horizon.
There's a cover up going on
going on.
And that has to be the premise of all our reporting.
This is a new station there's a cover up going out there just
stating it as fact now there's a cover up
not only did that but they made the assertion right after he
said that he says this has to be what this is this has to be our
focus the cover up yes the cover now and from now on Yeah. Why?
Because there's you can you can make up a make anything look
like a cover up? Oh, Adam had his head shifty looking eyes
cover up. Yeah. Do he see he sent an email tweet to Brian
Brushwood? Maybe he's leaving John cover up? Yeah, I don't
know,
cover up going on
there is going on.
And that has to be the premise of all our reporting going
forward.
It's also a lot more fun.
I like to wish he says it and then she repeats it word for
word. Yeah.
While she's reading his lines in the prompter. Hello. Has to be
the premise of our reporting going forward? Well,
we don't wait at this moment. We don't know what is being covered
up. That is still a huge question. How big it is, who it
goes to? Is it financial? Is it personal? Does it involve the
President himself or just as associates? We don't know. But
related to this, this administration in this campaign
in Russia, everything that they are doing, gives the clear
appearance of people who are trying to cover stuff up lie
about things and they are doing it with extraordinary
ineptitude. I don't know if you're right, that this will
bring all thing crashing down. But if it does, if we end up
there now this will be the moment that caused the entire
thing in the end to fall apart right?
So they're only interested in the cover up because the cover
up is much juicy your story then what may or may not have
happened because there's probably not that much that
happened. But the cover up is a juicy story. You can you can
posit about that forever. But have a little montage here, just
hold on a second, there's another there's a little thing
that is in there. That kind of self contradicts what they're
doing. If it's a cover up, and which they said and it's the
most incompetent cover up, which they said,
Yeah, how come they can't figure out what they're covering? up.
Yeah,
instantly. Yeah. Because it's incompetent. Yes. I have more
examples of this later. There. These guys are unhinged.
On hinge gate. Here's a little compilation of the news networks
over the past 24 hours. President
Trump's decision to fire FBI Director James Comey stung
Washington sending shockwaves through the agency Tuesday Night
Massacre. Let's play hardball. It's a grotesque abuse of power
by the President of the United States.
Again, disdain for the presidency. This is bigger than
Trump. It's about America. People are calling it a
constitutional crisis. We are in a full
blown constitutional crisis.
absolutely bizarre statement for this bizarre president to make
and Donald
Trump in writing that sentence that he clearly couldn't hold
back on is raising his own potential criminal liability. a
whiff
of fascism tonight, I think it's fair to say I don't care about
the law
on the bus. It's understandable that people are comparing it to
Watergate. This is
the kind of thing that goes on in non democracies.
This is a terribly dangerous moment in American history.
Has there ever been anything that rose to this level other
than the Saturday Night Massacre and
the time that you've been an observer of American politics? I
can't think of it. I've heard some people call this a dark day
for our democracy.
This is nice. I could have come up with that. That's
alliteration to the max dark day for democracy, Trump,
it's about the presidency,
which is being diminished on a daily basis, the Capitol is
filling
with echoes of Watergate. And the question this morning is
whether the centuries old system of checks and balances will
swing into action.
All right, what this results in is stuff like this on the face
bag. From someone I know, oh, woman late 50s. The verbal Kamla
Harris breaking it down now on CNN, you are accused of a crime
you are under investigation, you happen to work in the same
system now pursuing charges against you, you fire the cop
who reports the crime, the DEA on the case and the judge who
oversees the proceedings. This does not happen. Every day in
this country citizens are in the uncomfortable and unhappy
position of being under the scrutiny of our legal system.
Some of them also have power over that system. What does it
say to every citizen if those in power can manipulate the system
to control or avoid an undesirable personal outcome?
But then again, isn't that what Trump did in Texas and Florida
to make the cases go away for Trump University? Isn't that
what he's always done, manipulated the system and throw
a tantrum bully and steamroll his way to the outcome. He wants
trampling vendors, municipalities any person in his
way using bankruptcy to diminish his exposure not only is there a
giant red flag on this idiots forehead, it's being ignored for
reasons completely unfathomable to any sane person. There is no
rational explanation. This is treason. Treason treason. Yeah,
that's a new one.
That that rewild argument to treason.
It's treason. I've heard this a number of times people calling
this treason. How is it treason it's not treason. It's
not me. What's treason?
It's not treason. It's also not a constitutional crisis. It's
also not the death of democracy. It's none of those things. None
of those things, please, but that's but that's not the point.
The point is people are getting sick.
Yeah, I agree with them. So
you know, and we might as well go straight into this. Let's
just give you LOL treason. All right, who else do you think
would call it treason of all the smart people on television?
Everybody
who would be up front and center telling the rest of the women in
America it's treason.
I know this is like an obvious answer. I'm supposed to get your
Janine garofolo Oh,
snow, Joy Bay har
times there's a picture which that we have to show you where
Trump is basically, in the Oval Office. Can we get that chat? We
have it? I know we do. So there he is. He's speaking to the
Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov and Ambassador Kis Kislyak, who
is the one who's the one he's the guy who Michael Flynn got
fired them for talking to him about possibly talking about
sanctions. And in the room, there's Trump talking to these
Russians. And guess whose end of the Russian presses they're
covering and guess who's missing from that role? The American
press is not allowed from the room. Okay. So all I'm saying in
this lengthy speech, which I hate to give, is that this is
this is treason. To me. This is unAmerican unpatriotic, America.
I mean, the Russian Foreign Minister and the ambassador in
the Oval Office is treasonous. John, don't you understand says
treason to me. This is unAmerican unpatriotic.
Furious. And my feelings
hurt your feelings.
Yeah, because she's depressed. She's American press. She feels
that her feelings have been hurt, because the American were
actually two photographers they were allowed in one was Russian
and they never said who the other one was. Ah, interesting.
I didn't know this. So it was a cool photographer. Maybe?
Yeah, maybe the Russian guy was on. I'll tell you a little
background. The Russian guy was on RT and he was responding to
the fact that somebody said he came into a plant a bug. He says
anyone that's even discussing this sort of thing, has never
been into this oval office in the circumstances. He says where
they do everything but strip search, you gotta go.
Well, this did come up, John, I have a multipart short clip
series. From Bill Maher show. And he had Adam Schiff on the
only reason why I watched is because he had Congressman
Schiff on Congressman Schiff, he's the Ground Zero guy who
also be the fall guy. We know this. But he's the Ground Zero
guy. He is the head of the Intelligence Committee. I think
it's Intelligence Committee.
He is the he's not the head. He's the second guy. As the
ranking member, as the ranking member of the House
Intelligence,
I've always wanted to ask what the hell is the ranking member?
What does that mean? You're the you're the highest guy in the
room.
You're the ranking member. It means he's the he is the end, he
has to probably pay more. He is highest seniority member of the
opposite opposition party. Okay,
got it. Well, he was on that's why I thought it was important
to clip some things because he was very calm. Maher was on
hinge, of course, but we understand why. And Maher is
recognizing what we've seen for months.
So you know, I sometimes watch the other channels to see what
they're saying, because we do live in two different universes.
And when I see MSNBC or CNN, it's a lot about what you're
saying. On Fox News. the talking point, as always, let's just
wrap this up. Because after all this time, there's no there
there. What do you say to the no, there? There are people is
there there there? If there
was no there there, James Comey would still have a job.
So to two birds with one stone. Not only have we been seeing the
split universe, but the term there There has just went out of
control that just went off the rails. The use of it, how many
there's were there there? Too many. And it's a racist term,
because it's about Oakland, California. Three racial. And
now let's talk about the so called threat. In a bizarre
series of weeks, it seemed like this week was stranger than even
the ones that came before because it did seem to me like
he may have admitted to committing a crime. He said that
he they almost said word for word that he fired Comey,
because the Russia thing in his opinion isn't real. That seems
like obstruction of justice. He also was asked, Did you ask
Comey for his loyalty? And he said, No, I didn't. But that's a
great idea. Which also was illegal, correct.
It is staggering. Plainly what he did, if you can believe him,
was at a minimum, unethical, improper, etc. Whether it's
illegal also depends on whether you think he's telling the
truth. Ironically, the most incriminating things are if you
believe him, but of course, when it comes to Russia, you really
can't believe what this President is saying. And here he
is compounding that by saying, you know, Director Comey better
look out because I may have tapes. So is it worse if he's
telling the truth? And now was said guilty of what he accused
his predecessor of wiretapping people in the White House? Or is
it worse that the President knighted states will just willy
nilly tell the American people the things that are patently
untrue?
So it's not true what he just said, the President did not say
I have tapes. He didn't say that. And this is what happens.
You concoct this thing and then you keep saying that and before
you know it, then you know Russia attack Georgia. You can
never get back from that. Never get back from it. You just
mentioned how tough it is to bring you know, anything even
close into the Oval Office? Not so according to Mr. Schiff. And
Mr. Maher.
Well, how about having the Russians into the Oval Office? I
mean, Kiselyov is their spy master in this country? He's got
that Android phone. Not the first one to say this. The
security people are saying that he's still using the Android
phone
now. Did you hear about this? No. Apparently the security
people. Those guys, they're saying, Oh, he has an Android
phone. So this can be completely I guess the implication is nice
going I want I might say, Nice. Go One for Android. Yeah, it's a
free plug. Yeah. Well, not a great plug. How about no shame?
It's full of holes. We know everyone can. We can hack it.
Yeah, this is adequate.
And why would this go over this? Let's go over the logic of this
again, from a marketing perspective. Yeah, the Russians
are pretty smart about all this because they've hacked the
elections are hacking us, and they're doing everything they
can to destroy our democracy. And they're using an Android
phone. Those Russians are smart. I think I'll get an Android
phone too, because I'm smart.
Huh? Okay. I see your point. I see your point. But this is just
clearly coming from an apple head. Yeah, that's obvious. You
would expect it to be any different
right phone? Let's the first one to say this. The security people
are saying that he's been using the Android phone after they
hung her for using the wrong computer a few times to send out
wedding invitations or whatever the hell was going on there.
They probably already will. They probably already own it. What am
I talking about? I really matter than
the category of you can't make this up, which is the category
we live in now. Right? You have photographs of Kislyak and love
Rob with the President not because our own press is allowed
in. But because the Russians take the pictures and the
Russians
make this sale. You're either with us or with the Russians.
Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. made fun of that for
decade.
Yeah, made fun of me with George Bush said it's not that he said
the same similar type of construction. Yeah, you're
either with us or with the terrorists. That's what it was
right. Now. Of course, Schiff has a pitch. We all know what
the pitch is. If you're a no agenda producer, you know what
the pitch is.
If there was ever a time in our history, where the argument
there has to be a check on this executive, we need to change the
Congress. So there is a Democratic House or Senate or
both, because this president needs a restraint. That argument
is now
Oh, you mean vote for you both? Is that what you're talking
about? Vote
for more Democrat or Democrat? I'm actually stunned. Although I
could be wrong. Maybe this does happen. Because I know the two
pitches are the one you just outlined, which is all this is
because the Republicans have the House and Senate otherwise we
wouldn't have this insane president. Once a vote Democrat
especially in the in the midterms. And we can get the
house back and maybe the Senate both and that's one pitch the
other pitches we need a special prosecutor.
Oh, yeah, no, this comes up of course, of course. This is the
last clip is pitch part two. Schiff shift is of course, I'm
saying of course a lot. Dammit. I want to start Yeah, catching
myself now.
I'm not still not catching it. Yeah.
I caught it. Now it's getting really bad now. Deep breath.
Wait, my iPhone is telling me to breathe my watch. Okay. He is
the ranking member of the the committee. And he would know
kind of what's going on? You'd think. So Bill Maher asks him
for a little update.
So I know back in March, you said that the case with the
Russia collusion is more than circumstantial. Can you tell us
anything more? And if you can't tell us that? Can you tell us
like when you picture Donald Trump and say two years? What is
he wearing? Orange
I'm already trying to get the image of him in a bathrobe out
of my head, right. I don't know honestly, where the
investigation will end up. It's too early to say it's a it's a
mammoth undertaking, because it's global. And reach involves
a lot of witnesses who may or may not want to cooperate with
us. We're working with a very small staff. It's one of the
reasons why it's so important that we oversee the FBI
investigation and not let that go or be impeded in any way.
They have the scope, they have the resources, they have 1000s
of agents all across the globe. There are things they can do and
must do that we can't. So part of our responsibility is doing
our own investigation and we are trying part of our obligations
to make sure the FBI does the job they need to do see
little twist on it, though he didn't necessarily call for the
independent investigation. But he did plant the seed of we
don't have the resources. We really can't do this.
Oh, I always get irked when you bring up the fact that the FBI
has the resource and they have hundreds of Agents around the
world. I thought the CIA was supposed to be doing that work.
Yeah, but still FBI. They do. They do that. It's all of
course, naturally. Damnit. I keep saying it.
From you, so Have it now. In the two hour mark. Yeah,
I'll be able to fix this. I think we had the testimony of
Sally Yates, Sally Yates was the act, the attacking the
attacking, attacking Attorney General, the temporary acting
Attorney General during the transition. And as we discussed
on the previous episode of this show, the reason why she left or
was fired or whatever happened is because she didn't want to
implement the travel ban. And this had nothing to do with
Russia had nothing to do with Comey. Although now in testimony
she said, Oh, well, I warned reporting to the President. You
don't dead on it. Don't hire that guy. He's no good. So I
want I wanted to go back and hear what she said. And not many
people picked up on this a few words matter phrase from the
chaise that kind of stuff. Listen to her part of her
opening statement here. In your testimony
as the intelligence community assessed in his January of 2017
report, Russia will continue to develop capabilities to use
against the United States, and we need to be ready to meet
those threats. I sincerely appreciate the opportunity to
take part in today's discussion. Now, I want to note that in my
answers today, I intend to be as fulsome and as comprehensive,
comprehensive as possible, while respecting my legal and ethical
boundaries.
So this is a new word that popped in all of a sudden, and
I'm seeing it in other places, and there's some dispute as to
what the meaning is of the word fulsome as I had not heard this
before, and I'm always paying attention to words, witness my
trying to stop the use of of course, her testimony is it is
essential that ongoing investigations are fulsome and
free of political interference until their completion. What do
you understand the word fulsome?
Well, you This was what you call being blind sighted. never
noticed this? I didn't hear it when she said it. I heard it,
but I didn't think about it. And I'm completely befuddled by
this, if it's especially if there's something to it. Well,
there
was some tweet wars going on between Brian Garner, who was
the editor of Garner's modern English usage, who responded to
the use of this word on to on the tweeters with Oh dear.
In less unless she's referring to the potential prison sentence
in Folsom Prison.
The Folsom Prison Blues is what came up in my mind. Same thing.
According to the editor of Garner's modern English usage,
he says the word false fulsome should only be used in its
traditional disparaging sense, meaning excessively lavish or
offensive to good taste. Thus, fulsome praise should be
understood as praise that is insincerely flattering rather
than simply abundant.
Well, let's go with now I have to hear it in context again from
her, okay.
I mean, I could be off base on this, but
ah, definition now. Okay, here we go.
It's, and we need to be ready to meet those threats. I sincerely
appreciate the opportunity to take part in today's discussion.
Now, I want to note that in my answers today, I intend to be as
fulsome and as comprehensive, comprehensive as possible, while
respecting my legal and ethical boundaries.
Okay, so what she says, fulsome, I'm just reading it Yeah. Agia
it's an adjective. Okay, well, she's using it as a you cannot
see a noun. Yeah. Well, okay. Well, let's just read Folsom,
the adjective offensive to good taste, tactless. So she's going
to be tactless overzealous, she's going to be overzealous,
she's going to get to the point with until she gets the ethical
boundary. So which now, context this does make sense, because
she she qualifies it by saying until ethical boundaries are
met. Yeah. So in other words, she's going to be overzealous
and excessive until she reaches the boundaries where it's going
to be borderline illegal. What she's saying, concocting
insincerity marked by fullness of abundance copious, the full
sun thanks for the war torn nations lifted our weary spirits
fully developed, mature, but it just may be what she's trying.
Maybe this is it. Or fulsome timber resonated throughout the
hall. In other words, it was mature. Common usage tends to be
toward the negative connotation and using Folsom in the sense of
abundant copious or mature may lead to confusion without
contextual prompts. Synonyms gross, profuse, effusive,
anxious,
Mr. Gartner calls the loose usage of Folsom has been on the
increase in recent decades. It is in fact something of a
revival of the words original meaning when full first entered
the language in the 13th century had meant copious plentiful
etymologically linked to the word full, but that positive
meaning underwent a peculiar historical transformation. But
this I love this Yes, by around 1500 fulsome could mean
corpulent, obnoxious or tedious. A century later, it continued
his downward descent into sickening or excessively
effusive. And that and there things stood until the meaning
started moving back to neutral or positive senses in the 20th
century, no doubt influenced by the resemblance of fulsome to
full linguists call a positive to negative semantic shift, but
put your pet duration
majority of bass words, pejorative whatever it
says pej o r a t IO N proportion pejorative, it's a shit Word,
and the reverse process is called Melly ERATION mo while
many words have undergone such radical shifts, such as nice use
to men stupid or timid for instance, Folsom is remarkable
for its full pendulum swing from positive to negative and back
again. Secretary Tillerson described in a recent phone call
between Mr. Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin is very
fulsome. Well, it's a it's a great word to use, because it
can mean anything and it can mean whatever you
want. Use this word what you're saying. Well, it's
being used and I had not heard it in testimony before. And you
have to question what they really meant with that. What
Sally Yates Yeah,
it's, it's vague, very vague.
Anyway, it matters not because the CBS crew was very fulsome
about the ice cream gates.
Time Magazine staffers had dinner with the president at the
White House this week and reveals what they learned in a
cover story called Donald Trump after hours, the President gave
them a tour highlighting a big new TV setup in the dining room
near the Oval Office. He calls TiVo one of the greatest
inventions of all time, TiVo is good. He uses it to watch a
variety of news coverage
now at the dinner time says waiters brought the President a
Diet Coke while the others got water. And only the President
was served in extraditions sauce with the chicken and during
dessert and President received two scoops of ice cream.
Everybody else just got one scoop of ice cream
all says to me that he likes ice cream, and he's a big guy. I
would bet if you're there at the White House and you would say
Could I have an extra scoop of ice cream? You would get a
question I
think the question is how much he's eating more than other
people.
There it is. fat shaming as predicted Yeah, fat shaming ah
fat Big Man Man fat
yes this do some chris Christie jokes while we're here Yeah.
Dammit they should have done that would have been perfect but
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morning to you John C with a C stands for corpulent. demora
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know, the idea was to get him just he's a Grand Duke we don't
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I forgotten we granddaughter. Yeah, well, I'm gonna kiss him.
There you go.
We much we must and we will much about that. Be committed my
millennials.
You've got karma
talking about impeaching Maxine Waters now.
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Don't worry, I won't use it ever again. I just have to get it out
of my system. This particular time.
Yeah, you seem to like the sound I do. It's just sounds like two
kids playing you know. Ray Gun Yeah, that's
exactly why it's so stupid that it's fabulous.
Here's a you want to hear a story. Here's a good nugget
about the news. Now there's a lot of I think every show I've
been doing this is the story that you will find some place
but it's not on the mainstream media at all. And I have not
heard this story anywhere on CBS, ABC, NBC, even PBS but here
but here it is on our T and it's a real it's a good story. It's
actually kind of uplifting story in a funny kind of odd way. So
for the poor guy got shot down another black guy got shot, but
it was not just a normal situation. This is the West
Virginia non shooting cop. And do you have to listen to this?
It's unbelievable. The story
of former US police off So who was sacked after refusing to
shoot an armed suspect is now suing his former employer.
Stephen maida from West Virginia says his old department wanted
to, quote, destroy his reputation. Here's how he
describes the incident that led to his dismissal.
I see a black man standing outside of his car. And I tell
him, I said, Well, we got to call it about a domestic out
here. You want to tell me what's going on? He says, No, man, I
don't want to talk to you. There's nothing going on. You
leave hasn't run in the trunk of his car. I see. He's got his
hands behind his back. So I asked him to show me your hands.
And he's backed away from me. And he says, Nah, man, I can't
do that. And I see a silver pistol in his right hand. And so
I dropped my weapon and told him to drop the gun, drop the gun.
He says, Mommy, I don't want to do that. Just shoot me. My mind.
I'm thinking, why is this happening this way. And then
once he says, just shoot me, it's kind of like a click in
your head like being suicidal. It was a matter of seconds
between me initially contacting, you know, coming into contact
with him to when the other officers had arrived, the police
officers get out of their vehicles and weapons. And
they're yelling, put, get put down the gun, put down the gun,
and then within seconds as he's waving the weapon. During the
gun, firing force shots, and the last one hit the hit the man in
the head and someone calls the police at their worst. You don't
want to go in there giving them the mindset that the police
aren't here to help. You want to give him the mindset that
they're there to solve the problem to help you.
And while Mehta was reluctant to shoot one of his colleagues did,
ultimately killing the 23 year old male suspect. Later it
emerged the man's gun was not loaded. After that incident, the
local police department filed the case against mater for
failing to act and for placing others in danger. Other
departments said meters was fired for not meeting its
standards and struggling to think clearly during a critical
incident. meters had previously served in the Marine Corps for
four years, including time in Afghanistan. And we spoke to one
of the attorneys in the case.
Anybody who looks at the facts of this case, anybody who
considers what public policy in the state of West Virginia and
across the country should be is going to look at this and say
there's absolutely no way that the public policy of the state
of West Virginia can be that a police force can fire an officer
for not killing. What message does it send to a police
officers across the country? I think the message is shoot to
kill if you have any opportunity to do so. What's amazing in this
situation is Officer made or had made a reasonable and a an
objectively correct determination that RJ Williams
was not a threat to anybody else. Once a police officer
makes that determination under the United States Constitution.
They're not allowed to shoot a target when the weird Police
Department fired him for not shooting and killing RJ
Williams, the weird Police Department essentially fired
officer mater for honoring RJ Williams constitutional right
not to be shot.
Wow, I had not heard about this at all. And I've been fortunate.
And I see our teens really stopped with the Hokey music
that they that's bad. Here's the thing about this story. Of
course, it was also pointed, it goes on a little bit longer and
points out that this would be the first guy cop fired for not
killing. kill somebody. So he gets fired. Yeah. This is a
story that violates the narrative of the mainstream
media.
Oh, that's why of course. That's why we're not going to talk
about it.
Nobody met. It's a great story. If you're the story editor in
one of these news operations, you'd want to do this story. So
good story. But no, they don't do the story at all, because
it's not within whatever it is. They're trying to sell the
American public, right. It's a shame and it's a crime. It's
ridiculous. Yes.
Did you have an opportunity to watch the Adam Curtis
documentary we're talking about yet? Not yet. Okay, well, I may
have actually seen them. Well, you might you might have but um,
and it's just I know a lot of people watched it. It's just so
good. So good. Yeah, that's a great story and a very good
find. It really shows it really shows how media works. It's not
interesting to them. And that's not because it's not interesting
from a financial perspective, because I'm sure that people
would watch that story.
I think it might be interesting, but it to me, it violates their
narrative. No, no, we can't do that right now. That's
my point. It's it's a violation of their narrative. So even
though it's a juicy news story, they're not picking it up
because it doesn't fit with my you call it a narrative. How
about their orders? At this point, you got to think it's
almost orders. No, yeah, we're not going to do that. Now I have
been saying, based on intelligence reports, we have a
number of Military Intelligence producers amongst us that there
is a huge buildup of troops building up, you know, getting
positioned the normal places such as Kuwait City, and one of
my contacts reached out to me again, he said, I've never seen
this. I said, it's um, it's incredible eighth hole, the
82nd. Everything is pulling eyes getting ready. And the target is
a fg. So that's Afghanistan. We're doing to do something big
in Afghanistan. And I'm surprised that this is not being
mentioned, or at least I'm not seeing it in headlines. You I
mean, this is something big is going down. And this is just,
you know, there's not like some spy that I know. It's like,
Whoa, look, I see open everyone's seeing this in these
countries that journalists must be seeing this there are
journalists who are embedded. This must be seen. And based on
our previous conversation about CIA and potential drug running,
what their what their problems may be. This report became
interesting from the Hoosier State
dangerous new drug is so powerful, it can kill people who
are simply too close to it. Now so called Grey Death has arrived
in Indiana. It is a mix of heroin, fentanyl car, fentanyl
and other synthetic opioids. Officials say it doesn't just
kill users, it's dangerous for first responders arriving at
scenes contaminated by the drug. The drug can be absorbed through
the skin or accidentally inhaled through the air. First
responders are urged to work gloves and masks to cover as
much skin as possible and try and not touch any potential drug
materials or paraphernalia at the scene.
I don't know much about the drug business well, I know some from
one particular aspect but maybe we need to go get another heart
risk because people are going to start dying with this synthetic
crap we need the real deal now.
Well, I did a little work on this story based on the PBS
rundown of the of what sessions did which I think was yeah the
war on the war on crime but this is we can do the war on crime
bit then I can discuss fentanyl, which is what they're talking
about. Because I did a little research I didn't think much
about it before it's been around forever fenders fan, it's it's
what's a car fentanyl? That's not something new.
It's part of it's one of them. It's all just they're all
variants of this fender Fenton. You like this,
you'd like to chemistry stuff, dontcha?
Yeah. Good. Yeah. So this I never really bothered looking
into it. Because I remember it was like I remember 10 years
ago, when there were people moaning and groaning about spam
before good filters started showing up. And there were these
people saying Fen Fen Phen Fen get some fin fin knew that this
was being sold over the internet by mail. Oh, I
don't remember that. Yeah, fan fans. Sure. Ben fan.
And this was over. This is a decade ago, just before we
started doing our show this stuff was floating around. Yes.
And it's there's a very good article in the wiki page on
fentanyl, which is you can read but let's start listening to
this real I have a real problem with this particular report that
was on PBS. And so much so that I divided it up into six short
segments. Okay. And we're going to start with this. PBS tough on
crime part one and in between, I'm sorry, between each segment
I will bid you about some
very good President Trump has long put law and order at the
top.
I love it. When you do this. I want to point out that you come
with a multipolar and How coincidental. I had no idea that
you had this, but I'm just coming up with this stuff. I
love us.
President Trump has long put law and order at the top of his
White House agenda. But today's move to seek tougher prison
sentencing policies March the biggest effort yet to dismantle
his predecessors criminal justice reform legacy. Already
Sreenivasan has this story.
I have empowered our prosecutors to charge and pursue the most
serious offense as I believe the law requires the most serious
readily provable offense. It means that we're going to meet
our responsibility to enforce the law with judgment and
fairness.
With that US Attorney General Jeff Sessions ordered federal
prosecutors across the country to revive some of the toughest
practices of the decades old war on drugs. I trust
our prosecutors in the field to make good judgments. They
deserve to be on handcuffed and not micromanaged from
Washington. If you are a drug trafficker, we will not look the
other way. We will not be willfully blind to your
misconduct.
This memo reverses Obama administration policies that aim
to lessen the federal prison population by not charging low
level nonviolent drug offenders with long mandatory minimum
sentences.
So they're going to I mean, this report is weird. because it has
session saying they didn't want to unhandcuff people and now
their words unhandcuff The prosecutors Yeah, and give them
more leeway to do maximum sentences promote maximum
sentences more. And then the PVS guy kind of backs it off to make
it sound as if they're, they're going after everybody. And of
course, by the way, in this entire report, which goes on for
quite a while, they never talked about legal as legalization
issues and things that could maybe improve things or maybe
marijuana more. A lot of these guys get off these hard drugs
by, you know, going to soft drugs like marijuana. It's like
a gateway to like something unless, Sir, there's totally
undiscussed let's go to part two.
Before you can I just give you two things that I've noticed in
relation to this topic. One is sessions. little spiel spittle
here really set off the the pro weed people. I mean, the den man
is like, holy crap, they should. Yeah, they should be and who
else? Oh, Scott Adams said, Hey, is he he's, he's, he likes the
holy herb, Scott Adams said, If Trump but all of a sudden
decides, you know, the Trump administration decides, we're
gonna go after you know, weed and people smoking weed and all
this, he says, I will flip so fast, and I will do anything to
take them down. And I think I would also be very angry about
that. The second thing is that had a conversation over the
weekend with one of the millennials in my life, we were
talking about the third wave of feminism, which we can talk
about later if we want. And one of the things that came on, you
know, came up with the social justice warriors, is the need to
educate people that this is what the third wave is about, need to
educate people. And the top thing really, of educating
particularly white men, is how black men have gotten a raw deal
on drug sentencing. And so that is playing right now. This also
cannot be a coincidence. Right? She does just walk away. Sorry,
I do that sometimes to
listening. I just there was a there was something on the other
machine that relates to this, and I have to get the web
address and put it over here. Okay, yeah, part two. Let's go.
Yeah, that's by the way, this whole thing is about Blackbaud
minorities. Yeah,
in 2013. Then Attorney General Eric Holder told prosecutors to
leave drug quantities out of charging documents to cut down
on unduly harsh sentences that did not, quote promote public
safety, deterrence and rehabilitation. These directives
coincided with us Sentencing Commission changes and Obama
administration clemency initiatives that provided second
chances for low level federal drug offenders. That led to a
sharp decline in the federal prison population. In 2013, the
federal prison population sat at nearly 220,000. Today that
number stands just under 190,000. In reaction to sessions
memo today, former Attorney General Holder called the move
dumb on crime. And Republican Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky
said these new policies will accentuate the injustice of
unfairly incarcerating a disproportionate amount of
minorities. In March, President Trump created a new national
commission to combat the opioid crisis.
Drug abuse has become a crippling problem throughout the
United States.
Today's session is listed the opioid epidemic and a spike in
violence in big cities as reasons for this return to
harsher sentences.
Drug trafficking is an inherently dangerous and violent
business. If you want to collect a drug debt, you can't file a
lawsuit in court, you collect it with a barrel of a gun
in the memo sessions does leave discretion up to the prosecutors
to avoid unjust sentences. But those exceptions would need to
be approved and documented.
Well, this is another thing which kind of comes to mind when
I see this that the population has been lowered by 30,000.
Yeah, and there's all these of course, we have all these seemed
like 100 130,000 sounds like
that was 220s down to 180. Oh, I thought was okay. And they
there's a couple of things that bothered me. It always bothers
me. It bothers both of us, which is the the profit motivations of
so many prisons?
Yeah, the correctional Corporation of immigration of
America, there's that and then they also manufacture in a lot
of these prisons. They they besides just licensed it's free
labor. Yeah, it's free labor they paid 10 cents an hour slave
labor that we always accuse the Chinese of the Chinese have
accused us of that never gets any coverage. We have a slave
labor system in this country and it needs to be propped up and we
have room for 220,000 Federal these are federal prisons
and I'm not just making street signs. Let me Yeah, clothing and
making Ikea furniture, all kinds of stuff.
Well, not IKEA so much, but furniture for sure. And so this
so this is like, again, not discussed it they just plow
through it. head with this thing and they didn't just kind of
angle to make sessions look like an idiot. Of course they you
know, he sounds like what half the time. So, go.
For more we are joined by two former directors of the White
House Office of National Drug Control known more commonly as
the country's drug czars. Gil Kerlikowske served as President
Obama's drug policy adviser from 2009 to 2014. Before becoming
commissioner of customer care,
I want to do a preview on this dish to do a little setup. We
have two guys he brought in a they'd like to do these things.
PBS is doing a worse and worse and worse job they had. They had
the two guys where they do the argument that political
arguments about Trump usually with the the old guys Shields
and Brooks, they bring a new new guy in from the National Review.
And the two of them just both of them blast Trump. And I noticed
this some time ago on some show, I think about six months ago
where they won't even bring in anybody that has anything
contrary to say about climate change. In this instance, they
have two guys, two guys from one from Obama, the very liberal
from Obama and then a conservative and you think it's
going to go a certain way. It doesn't go that way at all. Both
guys are all in. There is no debate whatsoever. There's not
they don't bring a contrarian in they don't bring a random BS
man, they don't have to get ready the s has gone off the
rails with this two guys saying the same thing. And the shields
in this guy from the National Review was the worst. They both
of them said Trump should be impeached tomorrow. But listen
to these two guys on the drug problem
2009 to 2014, before becoming commissioner of Customs and
Border Patrol. He retired from that post in January. And John
Walters served as drugs are for all eight years of George W.
Bush's presidency. He is the chief operating officer of the
Hudson Institute, a conservative think tank. Thank you both for
joining us. John Walters, let me start with you don't mandatory
minimums, handcuffed judges take away some of their discretion
and disproportionately affect the poor and people of color?
Well, what they do is they target in the federal level more
senior traffickers, and they try to protect people from this
horrible drug drug epidemic. I think the issue is whether or
not we're going to have equity across the system. Some of these
were created for two reasons one, to create equity across the
federal system for serious offenses so that some people in
some places are shopping judges was not a way to avoid a fair
and equal punishment to the sentences were used to create
evidence from individuals pending conviction to help break
down whole drug organizations. They've worked. We need them now
we have the most deadly drug epidemic in the history of the
United States underway.
Now, they're talking about leverage to using sentences for
leveraging. I don't even know what that means, but they both
guys kind of set it and the you can go to the second guy now,
but before you do that, they there's this. It's very strange,
the way they're kind of positioning this. And the only
information I think is valuable in here is actually the death
toll. One of the guys mentions it's gun gun killings and
automobiles combined,
right. And we know that the real opioid crisis, which is a
medical term is because people are hooked on pharmaceuticals.
That's right. That's the beginning of the crisis. But
man, and just a moment of respect for the EMTs out there.
Who wants to be an EMT who wants to go save people's lives? We
know a bad Chad there in Colorado. If you have a we got
to put a hood on these people. The heroin addicts put a hood on
them. They're on PCP and heroin they Oh D we got to jab the the
what's the shot, call the brings you back to life. gnarrk gnarrk,
gnarrk gnarrk, gnarrk gnarrk gnarrk con, jab that in and
boom, they come back to life. They're insane. Because there
are still the PCP of the PCB kicks back in. Oh, and by the
way, whatever. They're on you just being around him touching
him. If they breathe on you you could also
die. Yes, according to this report to Okay, he's
Gil Kerlikowske, does this dismantle in some ways, some of
what you started to accomplish as drugs are in your
administration and perhaps slow the momentum for what seems to
be bipartisan approach and understanding towards criminal
justice reform?
Well, in some ways it does. But let's separate the opioid
epidemic. When I took office in 2009, it really was not on the
public's radar screen. These are pills. These aren't being
smuggled in across the country. They're not being manufactured
in some garage. This is driven by our medical practices, which
by the way is governed at the state level. So trying to step
out separate out the opioid issue. The heroin issue is
different, although it certainly is connected. But if you're a
trafficker, a drug trafficker, I couldn't agree more with the
what the attorney said General said, because if you're a drug
trafficker, and you're indicted by the federal government,
usually for a substantial amount of drugs and so that's important
Gilcrest Costco also want to ask me does this you know, what
about the argument that Jeff Sessions makes it says that you
know, this takes the handcuffs off of prosecutors prosecutors
have been complaining for some time that they can't use a large
sentences leverage to get the type of information that they
need.
Okay, now he uses the large sentences thing. They're gonna
go into take the handcuffs off in the next last clip. I think
it's the last we're getting there. Yeah. I noticed there's a
little piece of propaganda in here about the matches state
level.
Yeah, yeah. That means I owe you the states you got to take care
of it's your problem. No, he
says, that's where I was being handled now. Oh, I gotcha. And
it's not being handled well. So dude, so this is another this
attack on states, right.
Federal federal takeover, right. Yeah. Okay. See, which seems the
exact opposite of what the Trump administration stands for
exactly.
What the large sentence can be helpful. But remember to with
their finite resources in the Department of Justice, there are
finite jail space availability in the federal government. And
so
we only got so much inventory, John, I mean, we got to run the
inventory to the max. But the inventories inventory, we need
to fill it up
serving those spaces, and reserving those prosecutors for
the most serious crimes is very important. You know, I spent
almost eight years in the administration Hall, but for
months, I met with a number of US attorneys and assistant US
attorneys. I didn't hear them complaining about the way they
were being dealt with by what's finally called main justice.
John Walters, I want to ask, you mentioned the heroin epidemic.
And Gil also second to that.
I'd like to turn to the main justice. Yeah, I
didn't know what I was gonna bitch about here. But so let's
go ahead and finish it off.
John Walters, I want to ask you mentioned the heroin epidemic.
And Gil also seconded that. What about going after the
distribution and the manufacturer when I have to show
ID to get a bottle of NyQuil over the counter yet a town in
West Virginia, with a population of 800 can get 300,000 pills
shipped to it over a few years? Yeah, I think
the enforcement of the diversion of drugs, pill mills and other
kinds of diversion of synthetic opioids are important. But today
that that was what was happening. And, you know, five,
six years ago today, the death rate is driven by criminally
produced synthetic fentanyl, and heroin. And this is killing more
people every year than all the names and the Vietnam Veterans
Memorial. Secretary of HHS price mentioned that, in addition,
that number is accelerating. What's happened is we've lost
control of these organizations, and we need to be able to
enforce the law, you yourself have had the author of Dreamland
on this program, the story of the pills, and heroin coming
together to create this carnage. He notes that some of these
gangs were parking outside drug treatment centers, to give free
samples of heroin to people to redic them or to keep them from
getting into treatment, those people need to go to jail, we
need this on a much larger and larger effort we need to stop
talking about there's limited resources in the federal system
in the state system, we need to bring together public health
efforts to bring people into treatment, and we need to stop
the flow of this poison. It is killing more Americans than all
gun and automobile accidents combined. And it's accelerating.
And in addition to that cocaine production out of Colombia is
going back to the old track days. We're in the midst of a
facing a perfect storm, and we're not on top of it. We need
law enforcement to work as we need treatment to work. I
disagree
with the guy there at the end. Like everything you said, and he
said except we're not on top of it. That's incorrect. The facts
are right in front of our nose. Do you want to have a conclusion
before I do this?
I was gonna do a little discussion of fentanyl, but you
can do that. Okay.
We know for certain that any war on anything only results in more
of the thing we wage war on this is a historical fact. I don't
think President Trump has anything new up his sleeve. War
on Drugs means more drugs. Now, where if you look at heroin,
specifically, it's coming in through Mexico, through the
border, and it's naturally produced. In Afghanistan, the
two places where Trump is focusing a lot of his energy one
we don't hear much about Afghanistan, except Oh yeah, the
mother of all bombs. And I don't know if it's time for harvest or
not. But if you're playing SimCity if you're the boss, and
you're saying Holy crap, man, we got people dying every single
day because we don't have enough cheap heroin, which is very
different from the fentanyl and the car, fentanyl and all the
other synthetic opioids, not saying that you can't and kill
you. And that is not bad. I that's this is what I would be
doing. Like we got to up that we got to we got to flood the
market with this stuff so that people stop dying from the
craziest thing synthetics. And the wall was I've always said
it's about controlling the drug flow, there's going to be a nice
hole where you can come through and it's agreed to amounts and
times and the payoffs. Make no mistake, we run on drug money,
everything is drugs.
Well, the guys say that this, as it concludes, they mentioned
that they believe and it's been documented that most of the
drugs come through, within 10 feet of a guard, usually over
and over one of the border openings. They're not being
hauled in when people drag their family across the border.
They're not bringing drugs and I always thought that was bull
crap. Anyway, there's plenty of ways to getting drugs in they'd
be there to stop Marines. They got airplanes, there's all kinds
of ways you just having a few people drags him over the border
doesn't really amount to much. Although they claimed also that
the fentanyl in particular which is so powerful, you don't really
need to bring much in. And I want to read about a little
thing from the right from the wiki page and people should go
read this about fentanyl because it's really interesting.
Fentanyl is, according to the wiki is a potent synthetic
opioid pain medication with the rapid onset. This is
interesting. This is rapid onset and short duration, incredibly
short duration. It's not. It's used as kind of a quick high
like a one hit or like a lunchtime high. Yeah, it's
a potent agonist antagonist the short guys like 20 minutes like
well, in here, they're talking about 90 minutes. Fentanyl is 50
to 10 times 100 times more potent than morphine, which is a
bit much and some fentanyl analogues. I think the ones
you're talking about which are designed to mimic the
pharmacological effects of the original drug may be as much as
10,000 times more potent than morphine. Wow. Fentanyl was
first made by Paul Janssen in 1960. Following the inception of
Demerol several years earlier. Janssen developed fentanyl by
asking the analogs of the structure of the related drug
Petha Dean for opioid activity the widespread use of fentanyl
triggered the production of fentanyl citrate assault form by
combining fentanyl with acetic acid or citric acid which
entered the medical useless to general anesthetics was
added for flavor no doubt
preservative and it used to be called sub Lamaze yummy and then
there's a bunch of other ones that came out for medical
practice to Fana till Atlanta till remin affinity Hill and low
affinity Hill they're all have a similar sound. In the mid 90s
fentanyl was introduced for palliative use with the fentanyl
patch followed by the next in the next decade by the
introduction of the fentanyl lollipop. Also dissolving, yeah,
also dissolving tablets and some sublingual spray which are
absorbed to the tissues. As of 2012 fentanyl is the most widely
used synthetic opioid in medicine. 1700 kilograms were
used globally in 2013. How do
you make can you make it at home? No, no.
also uses a recreational drug leading to 1000s of overdose
this recreational thing that seems to be the issue. deaths
have resulted from improper medical use. And recreational
use fentanyl is widely read therapeutic index was made very
safe. They use it for anesthesia. It's not like a
drag. That's not common. But here's the thing here is well
again, let me just refer people to this website. And not to wiki
page. But there's a website that is I don't know why you haven't
mentioned on the show before, which is drug experimenters.
We've talked about this, whenever they give you their
entire experience of the individual highs Yeah, e r
o Wi d.com or.org Sorry, e r o wi d dot Oregon. And every drug
in the world is in here. And it usually has commentary by dozens
of people who are experimenters. And they talk about fentanyl
quite a bit and the guy who used it usually, I mean, there's some
people that actually like it, but if you look it up, you get
the death pill you get the worst thing I've ever had. Or Ray has
a great
does it have ratings like Amazon? Yes, they should.
But one guy was bitching that he was checking his blood because
these guys are nuts. They grabbed themselves out a bunch
of gear and then they take some drug and take all their vitals.
This guest says he almost died with a very small patch using
the patch which I guess is very popular. But this is bad news
and he really does all stem from the medical profession.
You might die
Well, I'm calling this the great harvest of 2017
Well, they got to put a stop to it.
And that's the only way to do it.
Now the only way to do it is to legalize it
well that is the ultimate way Yeah.
because it lowers the prices though the profit motive has
gone legalized
the poppy version, not the not the synthetic version.
Well, the synthetic version if it was legalized all this crazy
shit that comes in from China, which is made there some for
some purpose or other and somehow it gets into the
Let's Let's back up for a second. That's not going to
happen, because we heard very clearly and I have to say at
this point, I've never really heard anything where session
said specifically this about marijuana, or, you know, states
who have or have not legalize it for medicinal or recreational
use. It's all about heroin. It's all about opioids.
Yes. But sessions is a known anti marijuana guy.
It's fine. But there's no way that they're going to legalize
it. They're going the other route, which is get the good
stuff. And I'm telling you, this is the only answer. And it
answers a lot of issues. To me, it seems cut and dry. Why? What
else are we do? Why are we going into Afghanistan? Why answer
why?
Well, we know the answer we've talked about on the show a
million times. But if it was legalized and the prices came
down, and people will use it into controlled environments,
the situation wouldn't exist like this.
But we're not we're not Trump. No one's gonna listen to our
argument that guy's never tried to drink. Yes. What does he know
he's qualified for governing over this?
No, I agree. Should recuse himself as president
as a teetotaller rookie recused myself from this entire
situation
all I know if it's the death toll is they said it's gonna be
averaging 100,000 a year which is what people are moaning and
groaning about then death so we but this is worse.
So we've always known that when he's taking the second best
option for him personally, then something you could actually do.
Get with it. Throw everybody in jail.
No, get all the good stuff and produce low low cost, high
quality real heroin the good stuff, you know, like Coca Cola,
but
that's not our government doing it is its agencies that are
taking the money pocketing it. Yeah.
But still the poppies come in. We know how it works.
But anyway, I find the whole thing distressing.
It's very distressing.
It's very weird. I had a little stronger. I think it was better
than
Yeah, the jury was unconvinced. Let's go to South Korea for a
moment awesome stuff happening. As Moon
Jae In begins his new role as President of the Republic of
Korea. The ruling party in parliament is pushing for a
hearing on a controversial missile defense system. The
Democratic Party wants to address national suspicions
surrounding the US made fast system Joseph, President Moon
said he would reconsider the deployment.
Yes, the democratic means you party and that's Moon Jae in's
party.
Did you say the democratic ninja party
sounded like it's in Juba?
I like Ninja. That's good.
That's national suspicions surrounding the US made fan
system. Joseph. President Moon said he would reconsider the
deployment.
Yes, the Democratic MUJI party and that's Moon Jae in's party
has a special panel and they've been pushing for a parliamentary
hearing for the missile battery also calling for the deployment
to be suspended until it's approved in the National
Assembly for what they say is to prevent further national
conflict. Now this missile battery has been a topic of
controversy in South Korea since it was first announced getting
backlash from residents near the installment site as well as
other countries including China and Russia. And when Jane and
his party have called for a delay in the deployment, saying
that the ousted president Pumpkinhead and her government
didn't really receive public consensus before they came to a
decision. Now all of this comes at a time where key components
of the fad missile battery, including the high profile X
band radar and mobile launchers have already been delivered. So
it is of question as to whether they'll be able to even reverse
the decision. But the controversy has further
escalated following US President Donald Trump's remarks saying
that South Korea would have to burden the cost of that which
wasn't in any agreement before. But all of this is in question
because Moon Jae In and his party do not have the full
backing and majority in the National Assembly. So we'll have
to see if this plan as well as his other reform plans will even
be able to get approval in Parliament.
So the takeaway from this we already knew the moon stir was
against it, which I think is fab. I did not know that we have
no clue ain't there that the American taxpayer has been
paying for this of which the shit has already been delivered
on the ends on the ground ready to be installed? We've been
paying for it all along. Yeah, I did not realize that we pay for
all of it. I thought that there was a buyer there.
Well, apparently not. Ah well, it doesn't make any difference
as long as his arms companies get the money.
Oh, of course, Ash yet. There was a big one to
North Korea update cbspd. Here's another another report on the
same thing. It's kind of funny. Funny screw up in here to see if
you can spot it. There's breaking
news tonight from the Korean peninsula. CBS News confirms
North Korea launched a missile Sunday morning local time. From
its Pusan test facility. It's unclear what type of missile was
fired and whether the launch was successful. It comes just hours
after a senior North Korean diplomat said the communist
dictatorship wouldn't be open to talks with the United States.
Under the right conditions. Continued missile tests by the
North would of course ruin any chances of diplomatic
breakthrough. Adriana Diaz has more from Beijing
while traveling through Beijing International Airport, senior
North Korean diplomat chase on way too said North Korea is open
to talks with the US economy they mill and additions are
right she said we'll speak to the Trump administration. Her
comments follow President Trump's overture to North Korea
earlier this month when he said he'd be quote honored to meet
with dictator Kim Jong Moon under the right circumstances.
The ratcheting down or rhetoric comes after months of escalating
exchanges between Washington and Pyongyang. North Korea has
continued to test banned ballistic missiles while the US
has beefed up its military presence in the region as a show
of force, including the deployment of an aircraft
carrier off the Korean peninsula. The comments also
come days after South Korea elected a new president this
week, who prefers engagement with the North instead of
isolation.
Banned ballistic missiles. I'm not sure what yeah, that was
weird.
Well, I did a little research to see what they what is this? You
look it up. And apparently, these missiles in North Korea's
shoot, the ones they shoot off are banned by the United
Nations. And I'm thinking why are they banned? Yeah, I can't
get to the bottom of that. Why are they banned from shooting
off ballistic missiles just randomly and we're not
well, because they're douche is the kiss.
That's it. Guys don't get to shoot your missiles as I have
a follow up about just that we prefer to return to refer them
as sanctions. John not does not as banned substances.
And Joseph despite hostile relations, the Democratic
People's Republic of Korea sent a letter to the US House of
Representatives protesting new sanctions.
I didn't hear about this letter. I thought that was interesting.
What does the DPRK hope to achieve?
Yes, Alain de DPRK sent a letter in protests of the latest US
House of Representative Bill for tougher sanctions on Pyongyang.
And that's to prevent crude imports as well as international
shipping. And this would have
these were starving these people not now. No crude, no oil, no
food.
Oh, no, nothing. I was this humanitarian in any way.
Enjoy your rice is about what have you and have rice there.
They have rice. I hope so what do they have? What can they
make? They're good. What are they going to throw a tomato,
I think tomato,
international shipping, and this would become law if it's also
passed an act of war in the Senate. Now this letter is in
line with the DPRK argument that its nuclear program is for self
defense, and that they would continue to pursue it. Given
that Washington has continued to pursue what they say continued
to pursue hostile acts against their state. Now here's the DPRK
state media on the matter.
You have some good as the US House of Representatives and
acts more and more of these reckless and hostile
legislations against the DPRK. Our efforts to strengthen
nuclear deterrence will gather greater pace beyond anyone's
imagination. Tensions between
Washington and Pyongyang have been high with the new Trump
administration really focusing on isolating the state. And it
seems that the DPRK is trying to counter this by reviving its
foreign affairs committee amid the mounting set of sanctions.
Now the Seoul's unification ministry said that this
committee was revived in order to improve foreign relations
given its isolation, but we've seen more and more countries
really reinforce and back the sanctions, including recently
Germany closing down a hostile hostile that's run by North
Korea, as well as Southeast Asian countries including what
happened in Malaysia. Now all of this comes amid The Moon Jae In
has been receiving promises from other foreign leaders that who
really promised that they would back these UN sanctions as well
as helped South Korea to try to curb the DPRK nuclear and
missile program.
Does not sound like a good situation. Not a good sandwich.
Yeah, yeah. For the DPR case, this is not good for them. Well,
we'll see. We'll see what happens. I liked the tough talk
bit, but don't starve these people. It's not going to help.
Well, the thing is, is it's a
disaster. However, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't go to
something really important for the show right now.
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back and forth,
since we're on Mother's Day, and this may be even something that
enters the Dvorak household of conversation possible. It's
just, it just kind of it's a long clip, but we can stop
whenever we want. It's just it's entertaining to me all the way
through. Of course, I didn't mean I heard at that time.
Tucker Carlson. I am talking about Tucker Carlson. He had on
a woman who was not a social justice warrior, she's
interesting woman actually see, well, it doesn't matter what her
name is. This was a story based on a report, a scientific
report. That's stated as conclusion. Women breast free
feeding is not natural. And oh, yeah, this is great. And so and
I understand both sides understand what's being said,
but it is indicative of just a larger issue, larger problem.
That may not be a problem to everybody. But the third wave of
phantom feminism that I spoke about earlier, is about
educating men, in particular white men, but it's about
educating men, you need to know what the truth is. And let's
listen to a new study in
the journal Pediatrics describes it as quote unethical to call
breastfeeding natural because doing so might undermine
feminism. The study says quote, coupling nature with motherhood
can inadvertently support biologically deterministic
arguments about the roles of men and women in the family. So this
is kind of a baffling story, one that people are inserting
politics into breastfeeding, which seems like it'd be off
limits for politics, but right to why it would be controversial
to call breastfeeding natural if frustrating is not natural. What
is natural?
Well, breastfeeding doesn't come naturally, as pediatricians will
tell you, it's not exactly easy. There are lactation specialists
out there. There's a whole industry out there. So
breastfeeding isn't exactly natural doesn't come naturally
to women. So what they're saying is, which I'm so happy, there's
a study out there that are finally letting women not have
this guilt trip, that it's okay to him the formula over to daddy
to the men, and it's natural for a man to feed a baby. So they're
saying that only a woman able to feed a child is is inappropriate
to
here's the crazy thing. As I was listening to this report, I
immediately went searching for the actual study, look for any
any connections. And to me, the first thing I thought is this
must be the baby food industry or the formula industry, who
have somehow gotten this report out there. And this is, you
know, and this is a Latina, I'm sorry, a Latin x as she next
Yeah, she runs, what does she runs, she runs a female
magazine, which is mainly focused on the Latinas and some
and I'm like is she is she being sponsored, sponsored her
magazine and she touts clearly on her website. What great
companies have sponsored have advertised but doesn't
necessarily list any food company that I can see that
would have baby formula, but this just kept on going. It's
unethical and inappropriate. And I'm so so glad that we left off
let off the hook fine.
I mean, women are let off the hook. You know, it's this kind
of brings into play what this is. And it's obvious that this
is intended to create media havoc, because obviously
everyone knows that. It is a natural process. It is Is it not
natural for men to give breast milk through their own breasts?
So it's intended to spark some kind of, it seems like the age
old controversy. Is it bad to have breast milk? Or not? To be
had to have formula instead of breast milk as
an unethical or inappropriate whatever those words mean? I
mean, it can it's the opinion of some physicians that breast milk
is superior to formula and other people disagree. And it's a it's
a debate that has raged for quite some time. But it's what
you're seem to be saying is, it is bad, because it suggests that
women have a different role in motherhood than men do. But
would they do because women are the only people biologically
capable of bearing children? Is that now a controversial
observation?
Well, the study is saying, though, that women are not the
only ones who could feed the children. So that's what they're
trying to say. It is natural for others to be able to feed the
children. So the whole burden is not on the mother. So that's
what they're trying to say,
which isn't, maybe I'm unaware, but is it an issue that Fathers
say, Hey, I don't care what you do you but you got to give the
kid breast milk and I'm not gonna get informed about your
nipples are tough luck. You got to give the breast milk means
that really a thing?
Did I know? I mean, but that's
okay. First of all, of course, that's true, right, of course.
And that's kind of a decision.
What do you mean there? I don't think women are stupid.
Well, I think women that I interviewed a pediatrician that
had a mother
now she's gonna say there are some women who are stupid. This
is this is the best part. She's even saying women are stupid
women are stupid.
Well, there are women that I interviewed a pediatrician that
had a mother that had a child starving for two weeks, she was
not able to lactate she was not able to produce breast milk for
two weeks, the baby had lost weight, and she refused to give
that baby formula for fear that her baby was not going to get
the perfect breast milk. And we'd have to turn to formula.
Okay.
That's totally fair point. And that's a shame when people feel
like and people do there's no alternative. Perhaps there are
some, but that's not what's really going on here. This is
gender politics, intruding on the personal decisions that
parents make? Well, it's also
blurring the lines, we needed that she says we needed
that. It's suggesting, by the way that men can breastfeed,
which I don't think they can't.
And then could it? I don't know. But I do know. I have four
children. I can I can tell you, I don't
know what do you think's going on with this job? Is this just
more gender per
se? Good? Do I? Well, I mean, I've heard this before. Got
nowhere. I think it's I think is it's just I think this is Tucker
running out of material. Okay, now I'm down with that. You're
right, she's got to this moment is not really doing her job. And
so far. She's flirting with he's not
she's not. Yeah, maybe she was flirting with him a little bit.
In hindsight, that's a good point. It's a very good point. I
want to talk about this third wave of feminism just for a
moment. And then you know, because it kind of starts, it's
hard to get a little picture of this. And, and you know, that
what is being taught in universities is courses like
Gender in Media, gender and Media Studies, though, and I
believe that maybe for certain types of education, that liberal
arts, I would say, it's a required course. And, you know,
there UT Austin, apparently, I think it is not
dead, it's school by school, I really find it hard to believe
I'm an I'm not 100% Sure. But they use a lot of current
examples of the news. And invariably, you know, they throw
in Trump and throw in Russia and all kinds of things. But I heard
this phrase, the third wave of feminism, and I questioned so
what were the other two. And the first one that is being taught
or at least discussed in these university, but I think is being
taught to was suffragettes which was really, women need to be
equal to men. And that's not exactly how that went down.
Because that that was about land and,
you know, it's about mostly land and voting, land and voting.
The second wave is the Jane Fonda's and neither Brian's and
I said, Well, what what do you categorize that? And within no
doubt, no question. That's, we hate men. That was that's what
the second wave is now considered. Would you agree with
that? I was quite young, so I don't really Yeah, I didn't
think it was Tina agreed, though. She says, Oh, yeah. That
was about hate. Yeah.
There's really stems from some very, very, some writers as
writers that caused this. It wasn't, you know, the
celebrities. And it was an intellectual movement that began
in the probably the late 50s. And you know, it's kind of the
man hating part, I think maybe evolved from it. But it was
there were other issues. It wasn't just about hating men, it
is more hating men, kind of in the 2.5 era where you have your
Janine garrafa lows and people would just bitch about
everything. You know, they're just hostile,
right? Yes. Well, then this hostility and the model of the
millennials in my life, they are they listen to the show, I have
to say, and are very pleased to hear different thinking and
stuff they start to agree with. But when I said you know, what
about this third wave, well, this is the obligation that the
third wave feminists feel the obligation to educate, to
educate particularly men, particularly white men, putting
the straight cisgender educator lecturer, well the word is
educate, then I think lecture would be friendlier, educate,
say, I need to educate you reeks of Nazism reeks of fascism reeks
of re education reeks of all kinds of bad things. But that is
the term need to educate. So you don't make these mistakes.
Again, topple the patriarchy these things the patriarchy. So
Well, I had nothing to do with all this. I'm just following
along. I'm I'm a mother lover. I'm not a hater. I'm not a
fighter. Yeah, but you need a means to be re educated. And I
find this disturbing. But this is not nice. You do it. Now I
understand. The woman in the Portland shopping spot about the
Confederate flag. Rug. She went in, she went in to educate the
people in there because she was filming it from the apparently
from the get go. She went in to say, Hey, I'm educated. I'm
educating you. Don't you know your history. Remember all the
things that we didn't play it on the show? And maybe we should
have but screw it by now everyone. Hopefully you've seen
this video?
I don't think so my wife just saw it like yesterday. Well, by
now she has
seen it. So this is case in point. Your argument makes no
sense. But there was but what is interesting now is the wrap up
of this that she's doing interviews and I have a local
news report from Portlandia area Portlandia. TV I think so you
can in this you really hear not only the education part with the
Biden you need to we need to talk about this needs to be done
when you educate but also the extreme the extreme exaggeration
in the word she uses a being attacked, attacked by these men
and just horrible experience as a woman in particular. And
anyone who's seen the video What did Mimi say?
She was She said, Hey, you got to see this video. This crazy
woman says You won't believe it.
I love Mimi listens to the show with such religion.
He doesn't listen to the show at all. Only Jay listens to the
show. And every time we mentioned her name, she she
gives me she gets mad. Know what she gave me, man. I don't throw
everything out. She says to me. So what are you talking about?
Did it so what are you talking about? She says you said that I
throw everything out. I stopped doing that. Oh, she says
didn't notice it? Well, you wouldn't notice that there was
more or less anyway. It's true. Here's the local report. And
with an interview with this social justice warrior hillary
supporter, Bernie supporter which one you vote for?
It was an ugly exchange on Heather Franklin Facebook Live
video after she pointed out a confederate flag designed to run
for sale in the store.
I would not have confronted with kids with me if I would have
known that the reaction was going to be violent like that.
And then that was really scary. Franklin says those employees
followed her into the parking lot.
I was very shocked me to be called it by any employee is
quite harsh to be flipped off.
Store management says the rug never should have made it to the
sales floor.
We do not order these rugs by any particular style. We buy 150
to 200 of them at a time they come
in every six eight weeks
when I came in and saw the video I was upset
store President Andrew toolson says store management is now
discussing punishment for the employees in that video to good
employees
who've been with the company a long time and obviously had to
handle situations very poorly but I'd love to talk to her and
make it right and let her know that we are not a racist
organization or we have nothing that's as far from who we are as
can be.
We well another employee in the store at the time of the
incident wasn't concerned about that rugs presence
of exaggeration, you know, wouldn't affect when you affect
you and affect anyone unless you're looking for trouble than
you're fighting for but doesn't bother anyone's you know
history. You don't want it you don't buy it,
but Franklin felt she had to say something.
There's absolutely no reason to say that that's okay to see that
store, you know, so yeah, for me, I wasn't gonna walk out of
it. That's just not
what she's not. When Mimi called Ice thought the whole thing was
staged? I didn't think it at first. Yeah. And then I started
thinking more and more about it. And it was
like, sadly, it's not staged. Well,
it's pathetic. Danna, people should go see this video. Did
you put it listed as link in the show notes last time? I don't
think I did I put it and then people need to go to the show
notes. Definitely figure their way around the show notes. And
again, watch this thing, if they haven't seen it already.
And one more thing,
it is fantastic.
Yeah, it's great. It's entertaining from beginning to
end. Yeah. And recall that she was really calling them out. I'm
posting this yes, they're here in Park and whatever street
address while I was watching the Adam Curtis documentary. Oh, by
the
way, just before we leave that topic completely, I should
mention, if these guys are smart, they could have they
could have handled it on the spot by saying what? So you're
against the fact that we put that confederate flag on the
ground and people stomp all over it and stomp and stomp, and you
don't like us? So what are you some sort of a racist? Oh, wait.
Oh, my gosh, wait, hold on a second. Let me see. Yes, I think
it's coming through. Yes, John Hill and Knowlton on the line
for you. They'd love for your crisis tea, because you're so
good. Thank you. To wrap this up for today. There's all kinds of
interesting little reports that are going on. But my favorite
is, we have to get into it. But you know, the small house
movement, the tiny house movement that people are into,
like be able to be really a minimalist TV show. You show.
Yeah. You know what that is now? Excuse me? That is poverty
appropriation and it's not okay. I'm not kidding. It's poverty,
appropriation.
And when has done that. And
the University of Arizona has now set up a little extra cash,
you know, work study program, as you can become a social justice
advocate. And if you witness a as a social justice advocate, if
you witness any social injustice, you are to report
that and you can get 15 hours a week of social justice advocate
work at $10 an hour from the universities, it's about $600 a
month. And that is reporting on your fellow students for by a
niche. Yes. My snitch brown shirts, and it starts starts at
the universities. And before you know it, I can get kicked out of
the apartment building. If anyone heard this shit. I say
you could the bias incident report. Office. Beautiful. Your
apartment
building has a bias incident report.
No. What's that? That's next. That's that's next you know it's
coming.
It is this is where Cuba No.
Comrade. Now back to the Adam Curtis documentary. There's one
thing that stuck out. And you have you may have seen it you
don't remember doesn't matter. It's called hyper normal
normalization. And in it, it taught me to talk a lot about
the control of the computer industry, the bank, the
financial industry in the computer industry. And when you
look at Europe, European Union, it really comes together in your
head, the US is not great. But with the EU, the way it was set
up was all around finances and screw you we don't know. That's
why no one has any power in government. The banks determine
what goes on the financial institutions. But in the early
days, the computers there was one particular chat bot that
really kind of kicked it all off created by a guy in the MIT
artificial Artificial Intelligence Lab, Joseph
Weizenbaum. And oh, Joseph. You know him?
Oh, yeah, no, I don't know him.
I don't know him. Personally, I love him, you know of him. Oh,
yeah, he's famous. And Weizenbaum had created a chat
bot named Eliza. And what he realized and Eliza was based on
a very simple script, which even if you listen to how, from 2001
Odyssey
to play the 70s. What? Eliza?
Oh, the game? Yes. And I've played I remember, when the
web's first cranked up. That was one of the first things oh,
there's a website, you can talk to Eliza. And what Eliza does is
is it recognizes certain keywords in your question or
whatever you type. And it then answers something usually with
another question based upon your input. So I'm feeling lonely
allies would say why do you feel lonely? Well, I got a problem
with my dad. What is it about your dad that you have a problem
with? So it goes on and on and on and what why isn't Heimer
Weizenbaum? Why isn't it with Joseph Weiss timer, realize when
he let his secretary sit down and use this, then he hadn't
told her what it was doing. Within a couple of minutes. She
said, Excuse me, could you please leave the room? Because
it's kind of personal the stuff that I'm doing here, so people
really Oh, buttoned up. And his conclusion from the Eliza
Chatbot is that people love interacting with technology,
when it mirrors themselves, and then boom, it everything fired
off the neurons went off in my head. Welcome to the selfie
generation. Now I understand there's something within this
and people can make a lot of money with this knowledge. And I
don't think I'm pretty sure that the Facebook people and they
figured it out. I don't know if they they've gone back to the
lot the science of Eliza. But wow, there is something within
us that we want to see ourselves. Because that makes us
feel comfortable. It makes us feel good about our about our
life and everything when we see ourself in everything we do. And
this has to a certain extent, with the access to mirroring
let's just call it mirroring technologies that we have an
entire generation, the and a part of, of a previous
generation who are all in on this mirroring technology, who
are sick and are so ill that I think the rule of thumb is, the
more selfies the more unsure you are in life. It sounds logical,
but he Oh,
that'd be right. That's a winner. Column. Make it tight.
It's I don't know if I could do it. You need a string to do it.
You'll make it time code because that's actually kind of an
interesting.
Code is even better. The time code is two hours. 34 minutes
and 56 seconds.
Okay, good. Nice. Anyway, finish this thought it's good that you
have a thing about selfies. It seems as though you hate them.
Oh, no, I'm just fascinated. Well, like this woman like the
woman who went in. I think she's looking at that video again from
the Confederate rug story started flag rug story. I think
she had a selfie stick when she came out. She's and she's
talking about Oh, looky looky, you know, and to me that
phenomenon is selfie sticks. It just blows my mind. And she was,
you know, she's showing herself I'm really scared right now. And
maybe a lot of this was kicked off by Blair Witch Hunt. Blair
Witch Project. That's what it was Blair Witch Project, because
that kind of had you know, the early personal video recorder.
It's like, close up, you know, I can right here. It's very
frightening. And it was very real, even though we know it
wasn't real. It was a groundbreaking film or use of
cinematography. Yeah,
it was it made most people sick. You couldn't really watch it
very long. Right.
So I wish I had a real big conclusion there. John. I wish I
did. But I think the
you dropped the ball on me. Well,
it was I think the takeaway is self mirroring or mirroring
technologies. So not social networks. These are mirroring
networks. The algorithms now know that you want things about
yourself. You want things that you you know, it's the echo
chambers, another way of saying it, but it comes from this
fundamental human need. And the more people do it, the less sure
they are of themselves and of themselves in the world. And it
shows severe mental illness. How's that for a wrap up? Who?
That is the There you go. Yeah. That's the kicker.
Now, I only got one more topic. I think we should know we have a
little time left. You got something here?
Yeah, I got plenty that right. A couple things that you mentioned
in what you just mentioned, do your whole thing right there.
plays right into this. This is the clip rent a family.
We entered into Japan, where a growing number of people are
renting people to pose his family and friends. Adriana Diaz
has a story.
Through each each nakawa runs something called a rental family
company, and business has never been better. For a fee, he and
his staff will impersonate your parents, your boss, even your
spouse have you ever been discovered? Then they will?
Never. It might sound strange, but each no cause business was
immortalized in a 2012 documentary called rent of
family Inc. He says his business helps clients navigate the
tricky norms of Japanese society. Why is there so much
demand for renting fake family members in your home while the
Japanese obsess over etiquette manners and appearances a lot
more than Americans do. He said for my clients not violating
protocol is extremely important. He recently posed as a pregnant
woman's father because her real dad disapproved of her
engagement. She says he saved the marriage. Across town
another rentals in progress otherwise known as for $10 an
hour a proudly unhip, middle aged guy will let you vent and
offer his worldly wisdom. This time self proclaimed old fogy
tuck Nobu Nishimoto is serving up life lessons. today. It's
dating advice. Mishimoto sees clients almost daily, proving
over the hill is underrated. Because I'm a total stranger
that clients can unload even deep and dark secrets he told us
they'll say, it can't breathe a word of this to anyone I know.
In Japan's unusual rental universe, sometimes the services
are provided on four legs instead of two. at Tokyo's dog
heart shop. Patrons pluck down cash to hang out with oodles of
poodles, beagles, and the Golden Retriever named Rika automation
they carry that Japanese are uncomfortable about borrowing
things like a dog or a car from a friend said owner Yukiko to
chia, so it's simpler to rent from a company. Delivery worker
Yoshito Yamaguchi is one of her most loyal customers. He travels
an hour each way every month to get his canine fix in playing
with dogs is relaxing. He told us it gives me energy to get
back to work for the pet deprived and the status obsessed
the love Lauren and the confused in Japan at least you can read
for that.
Some Japanese are odd. Some oodles of poodles are like that.
oodles of poodles hmm well there is something in the US which is
as odd which is happening now as well called salami. No, yes. So
log me and a woman just married herself under this guise almost
a log a mist which means you
didn't you know now you're onto something Yeah.
So log me I can get Isabel that solo gummy. Oh, so I don't know
if it's the log me or so logo me however you would want to
pronounce it.
Nuts is in UTS? Yeah.
I have a story on it. Let me see. Eric Anderson. I would
describe it as women saying yes to themselves. It means that we
are enough even if we are not partnered with someone else.
Okay, fine. Aisha Yee. She got married in Brooklyn. Self
marriage or salami is growing, partly because it's popping up
in pop culture. Like when an episode of Sex in the City
floated the idea. That's not very new, is it? Marry yourself
in Canada offers consulting and wedding photography. There's
also I married me.com Bo take a look at this fine outfit. I'm
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This is why you can say I am married. Yeah.
It's nice. Yeah, you are reason to celebrate a roadmap to
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Affirmation cards. You know what the Daily Affirmation card says
Go fuck yourself as what it says. Sorry.
Look at your married I saw.
It was the worst worst punchline ever. I don't have anything.
Okay. Ah, yes, big news. And I'm very very excited what the
actual ruling will be.
The United States announced in March that electronic devices
larger than mobile phones would be banned from aircraft cabins
on flights from eight Muslim majority nations. US officials
said the ban wasn't introduced because of a specific threat,
but was based on concerns that planes might be targeted by
jihadis carrying explosives concealed inside laptops or
tablets. This week, the US Department of Homeland Security
said it was close to a decision on whether to extend the ban to
Europe. The EU says it's holding urgent talks with its American
counterparts to discuss the issue. Transport commissioners
have written to the Secretary of Homeland Security to seek
clarification. The European Commission says there are no
indications that any new threat has prompted the proposal.
What I want to remind you of is that there is no announcement by
the US authorities yet as to the extent and as to the more exact
plans for for this ban. But this is something that has been
brought to our attention and we will obviously continue are very
close cooperation with the US authorities on this as well as
on other issues.
European airlines and governments are concerned about
the potential impact an extension of the band might have
on what's one of the world's busiest aviation transport
routes.
There's a lot of confusion, a lot of confusion about this,
mainly due to lack of information.
Yeah And now,
here's why I'm interested in the story when they place the ban on
the eighth predominantly Muslim countries, it was on the air it
was because of the airports but mainly because of the airlines
and the security those airlines implement. And it did not
include US carriers US carriers. Well, you could just take your
laptop, no problem. My reaction, you had a different response you
said so we can sort through all the gear in the when we collect
it from everybody. I think I still think it's a putting
everybody on notice, we're in charge of the skies, you're
gonna make it we're gonna make it very difficult for you to
fly. And if this ruling turns out to be true, if it does
happen, and it's for all flights, I'll have to resend
that argument. Then I'll go back then I'll go to your side saying
cheese this is the intelligence operation. If it is only your if
it is non US airlines, only then I think that I can agree that
this is this is commercial wrangling. Right? You'd almost
think that all these stories about the airlines being
treating their passengers like crap would be a part of it. I'm
not sure. You heard about the woman who forced to pee in a
cup.
Remember this one headline? Oh, I wish they made
me pee in a cup.
I wish I had audio of that. But now I have the story. It
was a humiliating experience for this passenger on a United
Airlines flight. I was very embarrassed. And Nicole Harper,
a nurse who has a bladder condition say she wasn't allowed
to use the bathroom because of air turbulence. They
told them at that point that I would either need to use the
restroom or I would need a cup to PN. And they handed me at
that point they handed me a cup.
That's right. She says they told her to use a cup. Why No,
no. She said, I need a cup or I need to go to the bathroom. They
lied in this very report.
nurse who has a bladder condition says she wasn't
allowed to use the bathroom because of air turbulence.
They told them at that point that I would either need to use
the restroom or I would need a cup to PN I think
I think that this woman was treated extremely nicely by the
flight attendants by the cabinet crew that they should not be
standing up either. Woman Have you never read how many people
get seriously injured during freaky turbulence, which seems
to happen with some regularity. And this is for your safety and
the safety of other passengers around you. Because if you get
some turbulence and you fly up and then you're gonna come back
down again on somebody else, and you said well, I need to go I
need a cup. So all right, I'm gonna risk my my life here. And
other passengers lady to give you a damn cup, which she asked
for.
And they handed me at that point they handed me a cup.
That's right. She says they told her to use a cup right in her
seat. It happened on a flight from Houston to Kansas City.
I was able to relieve myself in the cups in my seats in aisle
around with, you know, my family and strangers around.
In a statement today. United admits the incident was
upsetting for all concerned. It's just the latest in what
seems like an epidemic of trouble for the airlines.
And see it's a total non story. It's fabrication fake news, in
fact, fake news. And and exactly the opposite.
The fake news story. I mean, this is the kind of crap
reporting we're getting. I have one here, which is got bad
information that comes from the big network CBS and you think
they're gonna give us bad information on CBS just a
misreport to put a little effort into an editor maybe?
Well, that depends. CBS is the Central Intelligence
Broadcasting Service. Do you think you'd have a shitty story
about some other intelligence service?
Try this. This clip next FBI director, the men and women of
the FBI
from doing the right thing. Current acting director Andrew
McCabe is among possible Comey replacements for those in
consideration include Republican Senator John Cornyn of Texas,
Alice Fisher, a former Assistant Attorney General, Judge Michael
Garcia from New York State Court of Appeals and Federal Judge
Henry Hudson from Virginia. Four other top level counter
intelligence officials have also been interviewed. Another name
added to the mix today former of Michigan Congressman Mike
Rogers. He's been endorsed by the FBI Agents Association and
as head of the House Intelligence Committee, Attorney
General Jeff Sessions and his deputy are still vetting
candidates. Once they make their recommendation, President Trump
will select a nominee who will then seek Senate confirmation
Wait,
wait a minute, Rogers isn't isn't in government anymore.
Hello? Yes, you're right. You caught it. It was so obvious.
Wow. Thank you. CVS, that's great.
So the head of this of the house, no ologists committee,
he's not even in
Congress at all. In other words they really want him in. That's
what I'm thinking. Less than 10 minutes to go 10 minute warning,
okay.
Mike Rogers the bonehead talk show host
do What a douche his name shouldn't be Mike. It should be
Seth.
Do you want to hear some from Helena?
Oh, yes. How's Hellena she's still following you on Twitter.
Yeah. Okay.
Jen listen to the show. But I That's it, you know, as you
might, this is the world economic update. And this
actually interesting story is a two parter. The first clips kind
of short with Helena,
and Germany is under scrutiny to this year for its huge trade
surplus. Finance Minister of Wolfgang Schauble is likely to
face criticism at the summit.
You said you said the short one this is the short one.
Well, you put it no i i meant the whole thing was short
kinda Time now for some more businesses with
otherwise you don't get to hear Helena. Oh, well, yeah. Who
cares about the non Helena clip
time. For some
more business us with Helena talking about global financial
planning in a resort town in Italy. That's right,
Christopher, there are worse places for it, I think aren't
there now the g7 meeting of finance ministers is taking
place in the Italian city of body and it's got a wide ranging
agenda including fighting inequality, cybersecurity, very
pertinent at the moment of course and cutting off funding
for terrorism. But US Treasury chief Steve Minuchin was the
center of attention as ministers seek more clarity about
President Trump's policy plans. g7 partners urge the US to take
their responsibility for the global economy more seriously,
but not to threaten growth. Or Trump has threatened to upset
the group's consensus on issues including climate change and
protectionism. But the Italians have another agenda.
For host country, Italy, one issue is at the top of the g7
agenda, fighting economic inequality.
I want to draw your attention to growth and social inclusion.
They've become a key topic of the g7 and the G 20. I am happy
that Italy is pursuing these issues. Growth cannot happen
without social inclusion.
Rome's interest isn't entirely unmotivated. Brussels has just
ranked Italy last in the EU in terms of growth.
So now I'm listening to all this and the other clip, the one that
you've almost played, actually a better example of what is going
on the United States Oh, United States, we got to condemn them
and why I say what what we're always into growth were they
talking about because growth is the big theme in this particular
g7 is yes, yeah. And so it was like, oh, it's because we were
thinking of doing some protectionism. And I can't do
that just an ounce no protections. And then the
Italians, it turns out, as they said in the report that the EU
condemned them for having zero growth. So the Italians are
going well, it's because we need more equality. Yeah, it's not
the worst one the worst, right? And they don't bring this up on
the show. But there's dw by the way. And the worst one is the
last clip, which is about what Germany is all about. And
Germany is under.
You mean, Germany. You're not sure I'm in Germany, Chairman
and
Germany is under scrutiny to this year for its huge trade
surplus. Finance Minister of Wolfgang Schauble is likely to
face criticism at the summit. His main goal is to stop the
scramble to lower taxes after the US and Britain announced
plans to reduce corporate tax rates to boost growth.
Oh, yes. Boost, boost the growth.
So here's the deal. So Germany, which has this outrageous trade
surplus, they don't want us lowering our taxes from the
highest in the world that 35% Because God, we might actually,
you know, kick it up a notch and they won't be able to compete.
So oh, so no, the big thing is the dollar No, no, no, don't
change your taxes. I mean, all these guys are in it for
themselves.
Who was representing the United States? They're Tiller Mnuchin
Oh, Minuchin. Well, that wasn't the conference to be at. And I
couldn't find many reports from the conference. And I only
noticed that because of you. I learned it by looking you okay.
The Belt and Road forum in Beijing. That would be the good
one. Oh, my goodness. And who was prominently, not their
United States every Vladimir Putin is on stage talk and
everybody's up to hit Fifi Lagarde?
You know when I first heard about the road and belt
initiative and
and I have to say Fifi guard is Christine Lagarde. She's the IMF
head for new listeners.
You know when I first heard about the road belt initiative
and read about it. Of course you think of silk, silk Yes, I
thought of t. Y T. White T well because it's whether you are in
Beijing whether you're in Moscow, whether you're in London
whether you're in Nairobi, or whether you are pretty much
anywhere Jakarta Marrakech tea is shared, tea is necessary tea
is inclusive, and tea is an instrument of cooperation
amongst the people. For centuries, tea has brought
cultures, community and people together. It has also connected
economies through trade and investment. And only recently,
Chinese scientists have unlocked the genetic secrets of the tea
plant. raising the prospect that we may soon enjoy a range of new
flavors.
I'm just gonna stop it there. Raise this is very obvious. What
is she stoned? It's that's exactly what this is about. She
doesn't mean tea. It's a metaphor. We're gonna have lots
of new flavors. It's about heroin. White tea. Hello. This
is about heroin. John. This is a global heroin conspiracy and
also known as tea and she say Oh, scientist just did you know
about that you drink tea. Did you know The scientists unlocked
the the magic of tea the DNA and now will have different flavors.
Maybe she's talking about fentanyl flavor crystals because
you know, China White is fentanyl.
There you go. It could be fentanyl. But it makes more
sense of my story if it's the if it's the real deal. And it could
be but maybe maybe because we're not there perhaps it's a we got
to fight these these bros over there with their real heroin.
Let's do that. I don't think the world The world wants to keep
letting the CIA run this whole thing and they like to do it
themselves and they can make fentanyl getting does the same
thing. We just need to re we got to genetics. We got to get it so
it's a little bit better. You know, so it's not killing
people. Yeah.
Well, when you're standing in Beijing, which last time I
checked this China, and the slang for heroin is China White.
Have you come up with this cockamamie Mendoza, China White?
Heroin is China White.
Turns out that fentanyl is the China way. It's always been
fentanyl.
Okay, but they must be making it then. And then you say oh, hey,
scientists have figured out Oh, God, we can make different
flavors. Heroin speed.
Now, I think you're unhinged. I am. But I like it.
Where am I going with tea? Yeah, where are you going? Well, the
Belt and Road initiatives holds similar promise. It is about
connecting culture. It is about connecting communities. It is
about enriching economies and improving the standard of living
of people
with heroin.
Now that you mentioned it, this stupid speech about tea is
idiotic. Yes. So it has to be in code.
Yes. And I think you actually put me on a different thinking
here. We're rushing out to go bomb Afghanistan. We got
everyone ready to go harvest the poppies. We got the wall set up
straight for all the imports. Once it's processed. The Chinese
are going Hey, Damn, that goes a fentanyl sales man. Then then
she comes in and says hey, this is a gross you know give all
this access it's gonna make everybody rich life will be
better. Have you ever done heroin lives better for a little
while?
She's also about adding new economic flavors by creating
I mean, please she's saying it economic
flavors infrastructure projects, both hard and soft.
What soft infrastructure drug routes? What is soft
infrastructure?
dirt roads
using the techniques of the 21st century. Fentanyl and good
governance principles.
Okay, well that's just my thinking. Yeah, I don't hinge
man I am on hinge but keep your eye on it.
You guys think else are we done? Guy jump through
okay Billboard Music Awards tonight I think and when
you get to be hosting
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