You just published the dossier Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Thursday, January 12 2017. And this is your award winning get
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and from Northern Silicon Valley without all the puns, I'm John
C. Dvorak. Greg Levin Buzzkill.
Figured I'd get them out of the way right at the top just said,
we're done. Yeah, we're done with it. We're done with it.
Yes. You think? Yeah, of course. Ah, yeah. It's been quite an
interesting couple of days. Oh, speaking of speaking of the
opening of the show. I would like you to know that I feel I
miss Plato. Plato says, you do? Yes. And I feel you might want
to reconsider bringing him back because London University
students are demanding Plato be dropped from courses because
they're old white guys. Plato and who else? Someone else? But
Plato.
Aristotle. discards just arrows. There's got this, Socrates. He's
gotta go. Yeah.
And this is apparently a not a joke. They really,
I know, this is a worldwide phenomenon. That's isn't
happening here to really? Yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely.
Definitely. Definitely.
Well, I'm not quite sure where to start. Because it pretty much
what happened in the past few days is the mainstream media
fell apart, completely melted down. And everybody knows it.
It's really fantastic. The credibility is, yeah, I mean, it
won't last more than a week. But for now, I think it's kind of
low.
Well, hopefully people listen to the whole show, because later in
this show, I'll show some stuff. That's it ended up covering up.
It's been the distraction of the week.
Yes. Oh, there's tons of stuff that was covering up I totally
okay. Oh, yeah. There's great stuff. So while everyone is
like, Oh, I can't wait to hear the show on Thursday. It's okay.
So we just started let's take a look. What do you think? First
of all, you know, if we do it, if we do it alphabet if we do it
chronologically, we should start with Obama's
a good. Yes, it is. Goodbye speech. Now. Did you catch any
of it?
Yes, I caught the whole thing. Okay. And I actually have a
small clip. Oh, nice. Not that small. But it's go bomb a
goodbye.
Now what I what I'm sorry to interrupt while I was doing
stuff. And I found out that listening to CNN is so much
better than then watching it. And I put it on the Sonos and
it's kind of it's kind of nice. I don't know why, but it's much
worse, much better than watching. And what was my point
about that?
I don't know. Maybe it's the hearing Obama's
Oh, yes. Yeah, I heard him say the change, say change a lot. We
had a lot of change.
Tons of the one thing that that was that was bothersome to me is
that I was watching it on CBS. But it was on everything. And
there was some ruckus going on. Got a lot of work early part of
the speech and it was being interrupted. Nobody would put
the cameras out. Just see what it was. They eventually put the
camera out there for a few seconds and said, and there's a
guy holding up a sign people grabbing at me standing up in
like on top of a chair or something that grabbing and
trying to pull them down. Yeah. And it's a sign said pardon us
now. Huh. And he's yelling some pardoning who are well, thank
you, CBS and the rest of the news media for not letting us
know. I had no idea what this was all about. There is
word that Obama may pardon Chelsea. Chelsea the man. Now
he's gonna throw here and Gitmo. Chelsea Manning? Yes. Do you
think that's going to happen? No, I don't either. I don't know
why they think that
I would be stunned if he did, I would actually have better
feelings toward Obama if he did that. But he won't do it and
Trump won't do it. They're both there. These are all just part
of the machine, no matter what we'd like to believe. All right.
So
you have a clip, you have a
clip, I want to say a couple of things before we do this. The
speech was terrible. It was an amalgam of a 2008 speech and
it's 2012 speech and people had shown some evidence of that.
Using some of the same phraseology and gimmicks he in
this is the part of the speech I thought was the nut. This was
the part that had what he wanted to say in it. And it was to me,
you know, week in more than a few a few minutes. Few days in a
few ways, and but here, and there's also he uses an
interesting word, which when I looked it up was kind of made
the whole speech, his whole laundry list of complaints
redundant because it kind of encompasses all of this stuff he
says but play play,
we must guard against a weakening of the values that
make us who we are. And that's why for the past eight years,
I've worked to put the fight against terrorism on a firmer
legal footing and to torture, work to close Gitmo reformed our
laws governing surveillance to protect privacy and civil
liberties exposed that's why I reject discrimination against
Muslim Americans
I like to I works to close Gitmo. That's pretty good.
And the other one was, this is why I reject discrimination.
What is it? This is why I reject discrimination. What what is why
let's
go back a little bit. This is really this is good stuff. This
is this is the best part of it yes,
this is actually if you could have recorded a sound the sound
that face bag makes when he did this speech, it would have
sounded a bit like this. The face bags were all I'm going to
miss him
so much.
Yeah, the face bags. Also according to Mimi, there's we
have a friend that I adore. I'm not going to mention her name,
but she's all she does is she's everyday she's posting it over
and over and I'm still crying.
I had a nice chat with Mimi, which may come up later in the
show. Yes, hopefully it will. Probably Well, let's continue.
That's why we cannot withdraw. That's why we cannot withdraw
from big global fights.
Big global safe and
democracy and human rights and women's rights and LGBT rights.
No matter how imperfect our efforts, no matter how expedient
ignoring such values may seem. That's part of defending
America. The fight against extremism and intolerance and
sectarianism and chauvinism. Why are of a peace with a chauvinist
authoritarianism.
Lots of isms isn't much there today, isms. Now,
Doug, go let's start stop right here and go to the book of
knowledge and look up the definition of Shogun chauvinism.
Pretty much everything he said in there, sectarianism,
xenophobia, everything that is, it's a laundry list of
chauvinism is a very interesting word. People use it and here we
go. male chauvinist pig interesting,
exaggerated or aggressive. Patriotism is the first one. And
the second one is excessive or prejudice, loyalty or support
for one's own cause group or gender. Hello, which is,
which is Obama? Yeah. Well,
it's a it's Obama and Trump and Clinton and everybody,
everybody, Hitler. Hitler was a chauvinist, Hitler. Hitler,
Hitler. Wow, that's pretty good. Let's listen to some more. And
nationalist aggression. That nationalist aggression.
Yeah, yeah, he's against him. He's against nationalist,
aggressive This is, by the way, if you backed it up and started
over and thought, this is a promotion of the New World Order
one world government, this is the speech you'd give.
Seriously, yeah. And meanwhile, by the way, right after this
clip, I've got another clip. Because he's saying what, you
know, there's aggressive nationalism. And then there's a
clip that follows this, which is the doing you figure out which
one it is, is the clip. There's a clip that was done on NBC and
it's about our troops. We have a bunch of people we're running
around. Can
I just try something? Okay, just try something for a minute.
Yeah, let me just see. Let me just go back to the beginning of
this clip.
We must guard against a weakening of the values
think I can do somewhere that I gotta work?
I think you should. Really good speed. It's all worth it. So
first ask Is there any way that clip that follows this as NATO
saber rattling? Because he talks about nationalist aggression?
But I guess it's okay for NATO to be on our watch with no,
no, it's a defensive organization. What speeds you
up? NATO is a defensive organization.
Oh, who are they defending when they were bombing Libya? The
Libyan people
against the dictator? Okay.
Landgraf. But it staged in Crimea. When Russian forces
invaded what had been part of Ukraine and seized it for the
Kremlin. America's response was to beef up both its own force in
Europe, and its support of NATO. Though President Elect Donald
Trump, who's called NATO obsolete, says he now wants to
pursue good relations with Russia, all major general
Timothy McGuire, how quickly could the new president as a
gesture of goodwill to Russia, turn this whole thing around and
pull you all out? Again?
I'm not going to speculate on what the incoming President may
or may not do. But I will tell you this is in the interest of
the United States Army to build readiness.
Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin has already implied the European
buildup is stupid and unrealistic. He said to think
that Russia would attack anyone. But for the US and its NATO
allies. Extra deterrence never hurts. But that deterrence comes
at a price Scott and a hefty one last year, the bill to the US
for bolstering European defense came to $3.4 billion.
Liz Palmer for us tonight, Liz Thank you.
Yeah, I'm just throwing away $3.4 billion just on these
exercises. And we have to haul you know what you can't imagine
what is it cost to ship we shipped all the way to like, you
know, he's stolen
a whole crapload of tanks.
Tanks, what does it cost to ship a tank and then ship it back?
He has a lot of in the south of the of the Netherlands as well.
And people are talking about that. A lot of tanks
will cease are expensive to ship.
They're expensive. And the mileage the gas mileage to ship.
Gas mileage is horrible on those things. The
gas mileage sucks.
Alright, was there anyone that was Obama that was Obama's, as I
said it was I got a lot of the face bag feed if I'm going to
miss it. That was the main thing. I'm going to miss them so
much. And at first I didn't get it people just posting without
posting a link or a story. I thought someone had died. It was
in the MTV girl, you know, the MTV alumni. So what happened is
oh, I'm gonna miss him miss and miss it. But there was no rip.
So I'm like, No Love and Light. What's going on? And I'd say
okay, they're all watching Obama and I get it.
I can't believe anybody watched that speech.
It was he had all the right elements. He had the you know,
the big echo the big boomy sound?
No, it wasn't done well. In fact, I'm pretty sure the big
boomy sound he should have had was not the one that was in
play. I'm glad you mentioned that. Because I've given
speeches with the right sound setups and the normal ones. And
the right sound setup. Just for people out there ever give a
speech, if you can find a sound engineer that knows what he's
doing, he'll set this up for you like this. The sound setup is
that they spaced the speakers out into this large audience and
every one of the speakers is on a certain delay that is that
coincides with the speed of sound 600 miles an hour or so.
And a read through a computer and so your voice is as if you
were yelling from one spot. When you hear your voice in the back
of the room would be the time that sound would actually get
there as though you were shouting
at speed of sound, I think is that 600 Did you say that?
600 miles an hour, something like that. Okay, I don't know
when? Okay, well, what it's in that arena. Anyway, so they have
the sound setup. So So that sounds like what it sounds like
your voice louder, all the way to the end. And so you don't get
these echoes and you don't get all this crap that you get. And
when I first was confronted with this kind of setup, which is
that has a name somebody some sound engineer will tell us. But
the sound guys will tell you it's expensive to set up because
you have to have about these arrays of speakers and they have
to be the distance from you to the speaker has to be major
just right, it's 768 mph. Okay,
now anyway, that's so that's all figured in with the computer and
it does. So when you first get behind the mic on one of these
setups and you say something, holy crap. You think you're the
voice that you think
you're the voice of God. Exactly. That's huge. And so I
think therefore they got what he wanted he wanted.
I was constantly hearing his voice bouncing off the back
wall.
There is a milestone it to discuss just briefly because it
saddens me tremendously Okay, I am now officially one of those
people.
Oh, you got the Twitter thing?
No, no, no, no, I'm not verified? No, no, no, it's much
worse. I am not one of those people who has his eyeglasses on
a chain around his neck.
Oh, geez, I know. I'm thinking I'm thinking to drop in the
show.
This is it's all downhill from here. We can probably write it
for another couple of years. But holy crap.
Why are you doing this? Well, you're doing this to yourself?
Well,
because I, I only use my glasses indoors to see television or to
look outside, obviously. And I really don't need them, although
it's fuzzy when I'm walking around. But it's my focal length
is all messed up. So I keep putting my glasses down. And
then of course, oh, I need my glasses. Where are my glasses? I
can never find my glasses. The way I usually find them is by
sitting on them and breaking them.
This has happened to you? Yes. You just don't look where you're
sitting. So this is the whoopee cushion.
I can't see it. I just can't see it. Anyway, so but I don't I'm
not I'm not going out of the house with this. Obviously. This
just I need to have kind of a V neck sweater this little crusty
and dirty.
That would make it perfect. You need patches on your elbows.
Yes.
And my eyebrows have to be crazy out of control. Crazy. Yeah,
definitely.
However,
sorry to hear that, ya
know, on a different topic. Thank you very much for the
outstanding use of the word slug in the newsletter. I love that
slug man. I hadn't heard slug in years. Good word. Yeah, my
parents used to have schlock parties, which I think now is
called a white elephant party. Used to be called the schlock
party. And you know how to select party works, right, you
bring a piece of schlock which is hard to define exactly what a
piece of slot,
you know what it is when you see it, just like foreign Exactly.
You're, for instance, your Hillary Clinton laughing pen
that's a piece of schlock. It's totally you know, is that
ashtray with the, with the Viennese glass? BitSight.
Whatever. That's a slug and nice word. We should we shouldn't be
bringing more of these words back.
Well, the newsletter was very ineffective.
I noticed that. Well, we can talk. We can talk about that
later. Anyway, let's let's get into this report.
Okay. Do you want to first I want to say but let so many
angles we can go first. I want everyone to know
that there is a copy of the PDF in the show notes. 894. Dot no
agenda notes.com.
There's also a link in the newsletter.
Yes. And it's well worth a read. I mean, it's it's pretty fun to
look over boring. Now, do you have I'm sure you have a
background of sorts.
i Well, there's the one background or the long one,
which I don't it's not even that good. It's about the it combines
the information about the the first press conference, NBC
covered as a backgrounder. Now, well, let's why don't we just
net we before playing any because why don't we explained
what happened? Yeah, that's probably good. Now what happened
was BuzzFeed, there's this old memo that's been floating
around. I
have a question about that. I have a question about that right
off the bat. This old memo, which apparently had been around
since some say October, some say,
July? July? Yeah. Okay. But it was rolled out in October.
But of all Well, yes. Because that douchebag David Corn. This
is this is his source. That was funny when I saw his name show
up. But we did not hear the only thing we heard about this is we
knew there was a letter that some Senator sent, we'd read
that on the show and said, Something's going on. This was
this must have been six, seven weeks ago. But no one ever told
us about this. I mean, we have a lot of producers inside, you
know, different organizations. I can't believe that no one even
mentioned this to us. So this was around that long. That's
that's
interesting was as I but here's what I here's my basis theory to
start this a little bit. Corn is an operator for the hill bots.
He was a party operative for the Democrats. Yeah. This was the
thing that people shouldn't be investigating us who paid for
this report. We have really don't have oh, well, I
believe the Democratic party that's what Greg Raff Glenn
Greenwald wrote. He said this was a guy who had previously
done stuff for the Democratic for the Republicans, and he was
compiling a an intelligence report on Donald Trump for the
Democrats.
Well, we do we know that for sure. The Republicans are the
cause of the here's what The dates of the report the first
parts of these reports before it got lewd, the early ones, the
early reports, which are all in this document that you can
download. It's the different reports all stacked together as
one. Yes, it is. Yeah, it's a compendium. So it starts during
the primaries. And I think Well, ya know,
according to Glenn Greenwald, this guy had was what was worse
first working for the Republicans to get dirt on
Trump. So it was the anti Trump Republicans that right, that's
the ones that got it.
Got that right. Yeah, I agree. But who was it? Oh,
yeah. No, he has he mentioned his name. Who? I'm gonna get to
it. Hold on a second. Let me see. Who's in the Glenn
Greenwald article? I'm sure Tom surprise, you didn't see that.
He had the article. Greenwald wrote, which I liked a lot was
the deep state goes to war with the president elect using
unverified claims as Democrats cheer. And of course, there is
some we do you need to talk about that in the moment about
is what is
what do I know who is what is this?
I'm gonna tell you what it is. Here it is. Was this guy it was
like Steve, right or something really plain
name? No, no, no, you're talking about steel? No,
no, no. I'm looking for this guy. Anyway, continue on. I'll
give you his name in
a minute. Okay. You're talking about the Republican who paid
for it? No, I'm talking about the guy who did it. But maybe
maybe I'm not the guy who did it is steal. From Orbis? Yes.
That's the guy. Okay. You want to know who paid for it? Well,
the Republicans, yes. You're missing the point. I'm trying to
figure out who paid for it. That's what I say.
McCain paid for it. Well, he had the report. It seems the most
obvious guy and he is the aihole du jour. He hates Trump with the
passion. Yeah, I'd agree. That is overlooked completely. And I
say well, I was I was given this and by Dr. course like every
good American should do. I handled it all.
Yeah. How did he do two guys who got a hold of it. Harry Reid.
got a hold of a copy. And but McCain got one. How did McCain
get? He froze? I think McCain was working with either Jeb Bush
or with Rubio and they decided to do this and then McCain got a
hold of it. I agree. Well, how are we going to slipped? Here's
like Rubio, how are we going to slip this to the FBI? And don't
know without looking suspicious? We're gonna get caught. And I'll
do it. I can do it. No, why not running for anything? I can just
do it. I'll do it. Yeah, because I hate that guy. Trump. Yeah.
Well, he probably got it from, from his Nazi friends in
Ukraine. And that guy's incredible. The people he hangs
out with is unreal. Yeah. Okay, good. All right. So so so this
report goes in, and then the way I understand it, that you know,
so Okay, let's just say this report was around fine. I find
it hard to believe was around that long. We didn't hear about
it. But okay. Then the President, I have a thought on
that, too. Will give me that thought Now then.
Well, first, let's go start with the corn thing. Here's the way I
saw it as as a as a situation
and do we need to replay David Korn for a second? What an idiot
That guy is? Because
no, I don't think so. Okay. Beat him up. Unless you have a
special Clint. Oh, no, they didn't bring him into the
conversation during this era, this little Tete that's been
going on, but he will be? I don't think so. At some point.
Yeah. Here's what I think happened. The Republicans tried
to bring this roll this out. And if you look at the timeline of
the thing that really dirty parts about the a will mention
this. What happened was this report claims that Trump went to
the Ritz Carlton in Moscow, just for the sole purpose of hiring
two hookers. This is this is this how nuts Trump must be for
the sole purpose of hiring two hookers to pee on the bed that
Obama and Michelle slept in? Because he hates them so much,
which, by the way, is not a golden shower to everyone who's
making the jokes. No, it's not. It's just peeing on the bed.
It's like wetting the bed. Or something like that. Something
different.
Yeah. Now, as an aside, I want to play the Trump before I get
to the point I'm trying to make, but I want to get this out of
the way. This is the Trump clip describing security in hotel
cameras.
When I leave our country, I'm a very high profile person would
you say?
And so modest, I
am extremely careful. I'm surrounded by bodyguards. I'm
surrounded by people. And I always tell them anywhere, but I
always tell them if I'm leaving this country, be very careful.
Because in your hotel rooms, and no matter where you go, you're
gonna probably have cameras, you better be careful. Or you'll be
watching yourself for nightly television. Does anyone really
believe that story? I'm also very much of a germaphobe by the
way, that part
I love that. I you know, I can't even shake your hand let alone
have you pee in my bed. Ed.
I thought that was interesting. Now, Mark Eames tweeted and I
retweeted Can I
Can I just relate a personal story about the about Russia?
Sure. I went to Moscow in 1988, the Moscow music Peace Festival.
This was before David Hasselhoff brought down the wall, because
we all know the Hoff did that. And my manager at the time was
LIBOR, LIBOR and cribs, LIBOR. And cribs famous for managing
Aerosmith and a couple other bands like that. And they also
at the time, Steve Lieber manage the Moscow circus. Remember that
it was touring around the States in the late 80s, early 90s.
Yeah. So he managed that. There. He'd been to Moscow a lot. And
then before I left, he says, Okay, sit down. I gotta tell you
something. Every single woman who talks to you is a KGB
hooker. Every single hook or you talk to is KGB. In fact, anyone
you talk to is KGB. Just be very aware. It's not a joke.
Well, I went to Moscow, before the fall was still the Soviet
Union. And I was being followed the whole time. And there are
microphones in the room, and I was staying at the mirror, which
was it was falling into disrepair. But the mirror was a
hotel that was for diplomats. And they had allowed the public
to stay there now. And there were microphones, you could find
the microphones, and many were just painted over, as they kept
painting. You can find you see, there's a microphone is just
painted over. It was laughable. But anyway, back to the story.
Mark Eames left a tweet, a tweet, which I thought was
interesting. Mark. James is one of the few writers that I really
have nothing but respect for it's a gray investigator lived
in Russia. And he says, does anybody really believe this? The
gist of it, did anybody really believe that Trump who has mob
connections and owns hotels, wouldn't be fully aware of the
situation at all times, and know that this kind of thing would be
going on? You think he's that stupid, it doesn't make any
sense. And so this whole thing is like something of a fiasco.
So here's what I think happened. And then we can go into some
clips there. Yeah. I think the Republicans paid to go have
this, have this this old buddy of somebody because this Orbis
operation is a two man operation. And it's in London,
and it's got to have they also in some guy's house, it's just I
looked up all the specs on it. There's two people there,
period. Yeah. And and it's like, it's something that maybe the
guys mi six, maybe he's not, but he's like an old investor.
I think that part is he probably is an old mi six stringer. I'm
sure that was that's the only thing that is probably true is
that he had a relationship with MI six.
I think that's, I think it might be true, but I also assume it's
true. And so this guy is good at doing hit pieces, disinformation
pieces, stuff that you know, might work and do it. Let's hire
him. And then we're, you know, we the Republicans that are
trying to do this stuff where you remove ourselves from this.
So they did this and it got zero traction, nobody cared. So they
kind of gave up on it. The Democrats picked up the ball,
the the Clinton aides, or it's It could be anybody in the
Democrat party, but same thing or could have still been McCain
at the end. Because he was for Hillary, I think he voted for
Hillary. And so they may have maintained this relationship or
even bill could know this guy, too. It seems like a kind of a
douche bag that bill might know. And so they said let's up the
ante on this. And that's when they came up with a golden
showers and he's peeing in there.
Because apparently, this what I understood as this report
existed with the peeing and the golden showers and salaciousness
but the Russians eavesdropping and blackmailing Trump in
Moscow, I think that was added.
I think that was at the very end, I think they kept up upping
the ante. It started simple, and it upped the ante and up the
ante till he got ridiculous. And so they by the it was pretty
ridiculous. By October 31, when David Corn, the friend who's
apparently a friend of the steel guy, yes, yeah. According to the
independent and maybe
maybe corn paid for it. Who does he work for? Again?
Mother Jones, you think? No,
this really puts a damper on Mother Jones, doesn't it?
I don't know that it does. Because I've forgotten this
part. Not me. But corn runs out a piece. That's pretty much the
piece that was done by BuzzFeed without the document because I
don't think he I don't know why.
He said I've read the documents. He showed me his top secret
filings. Remember that
and the clip? Yeah. So So corn runs this out. But he has such a
bad reputation. It's a very interesting article to read.
It's on. David Corn October 31 2016. A veteran spy has given
the FBI and for me, the veterans fight it and give the FBI the
information John McCain and Harry Reid did but okay,
alleging every Russian operation to cultivate Donald Trump. And
so he runs this thing out on October 31st, which was the idea
was to taint the election in favor of Hillary? Yes, October
31, just before the November election, it gets zero traction,
because I think they've gone they went overboard with the
instructions. And
this is because I guess people knew this document at the time,
right?
And yet, I think and then they kept, it kept getting worse and
worse, every time a new version came out, it was getting worse
and worse. And it was like this doesn't even make any sense. In
fact, there was an X i have a, I have an odd clip that I picked
up from CNBC on the on the Trump segment where they would end up
getting killed as the guy that was one of the financial and now
analysts on CNBC, and he's rolls out have an interesting thesis.
Assuming that any of this is true, and CNBC kills it, you got
you just as just as definitely worth listening to, to watch how
this guy gets gets killed is pretty funny.
25 Page leaked document from BuzzFeed comes out last night.
And the whole conversation changes today. And we were once
again focused on his relationship
with do I need do we need the director on this one? It sounds
like we might need the director. No, he's good. The intelligence
agencies. George, what do you think about that, and the way he
spoke
about them today?
Well, just a couple of points here. You know, as a former CIA
analyst, I mean, I can say with complete confidence, complete
confidence that those leaked memos are as fake as the plain
money that you would buy at a toy store. Okay. And let's,
let's face it, I mean, we're talking about
Yeah, isn't it George sure to jump in. But is it dangerous
even to call them a leaked memo? Because it sounds like that
might be something official, rather than maybe something that
somebody literally just fabricated out of nothing?
Oh, precisely. I mean, that's absolutely right. So, but again,
let's assume that this thing is real. It's humor. Let's humor
the possibility that it's real. And what would this actually
mean? Okay. The first point is that Russian counterintelligence
is in totally disarray. You supposedly have this former
British intelligence official, meeting senior officials from
the Kremlin, folks from the Russian intelligence services
meet, he's meeting these people in hotels, and bars and cafes
down the street from the Kremlin, wherever it is, the
Russians should know that, right? The fact that they
haven't caught up with that is a problem. Second point. The the
sources, if this is real, these sources are all dead at this
point where I've thrown in jail, because at this point, the
Russians, the Russians would know who they are, again, this
kind of information would be in the hands of only a few people.
Jared, I got to imagine though, that you were a little bit happy
in hearing about drug pricing, because when I heard the
President Elect talk about additional bidding
and a bid to shut up on that and be quiet now.
Now let me just I thought this was interesting because in the
Telegraph when I was reading about the steel guy and his
partner that run Orbis steel is is took off like a rocket he
apparently is fled, fled the area is in hiding, and he says
that the Russians are going to kill him.
Ah, that's gonna get better. Maybe I do want to read
during the way Wait, just let me finish my thesis. Now. I don't
take one sec. Got one. Okay, so corn roses thing out, nothing
comes of it. Nobody can get bites. And nobody bites before
the election. Nobody bites in December. And they finally bite
in January January 7, eighth, one of these just recently. That
is how long it takes to do a disinformation campaign and
actually have it catch fire. They screwed up. Yeah. This
should they should go corn should have written this thing
in September, late August. Yeah. And they could have let the
things simmer and then it would have popped up maybe before the
election. This was this just is a joke. Now it's just laughable.
In fact, it's even being discussed at all is ludicrous.
Anyway, okay. That's my thesis. Right.
Okay, so the campaign that went awry, right. Well, the public
story is that Trump received a briefing, and they said, Oh,
yeah, we've attached a couple of things. You need to look at some
agenda items and agenda, and he looked at it, but that he had
set a trap. A love this guy. He'd set a trap until no one not
even his trusty executive assistant, Rhoda.
Where did this theory come from?
It Trump said it himself. He said I set a trap and and I told
no one I was having this briefing not even my assistant
Rota, because I thought maybe the leaks are coming from inside
my organization. And Lee AIX. Yeah. And then it has to be the
intelligence community because they then somebody must have
said, we gave this to them. That is the that is the only the real
file here. We gave this to him in a classified briefing now
that is a violation of the classification of the briefing
to tell anyone's particularly the press to tell them about
that.
Well, there's this is dubious. Okay. And I'll tell you this
whole timeline thing was it was because everyone's saying one
thing or another. Yeah. And NBC went out of his way to clear up
the timeline and you want to listen to this clip finishes NBC
clears up p timeline.
Thank you. Let's step back a moment and take a closer look
now at that Firestorm over the explosive but unverified memo
that Hallie just mentioned that so angered the president elect.
Multiple sources telling NBC News US spy chiefs did not tell
Mr. Trump about its contents regarding him during the
briefing. NBC News Senior investigative correspondent
Cynthia McFadden explains what we know.
Tonight, this question, does US intelligence have proved the
Russians hold compromising information about Donald Trump?
And did they brief Mr. Trump
about it last Friday? The answer according to multiple
intelligence officials, is no. A senior intelligence official
tells NBC news that there was indeed a two page summary
accompanying that classified report on Russian interference
in the US election, which dealt with explosive and
unsubstantiated claims that Russia had compromising personal
information about Mr. Trump. Last night, it was widely
reported that Mr. Trump was himself briefed on the material.
But multiple sources, including those involved in the briefing
process, tell NBC News, that is simply
not true.
I was in the room that the first I heard of any of these wild
accusations was when someone printed it off of the BuzzFeed
website.
Alright, let me play this thing from Trump where he's talking
about wondering if the intelligence agencies leaked
this,
but I do have to say that. And I must say that, I want to thank a
lot of the news organizations here today. Because they looked
at that nonsense that was released by maybe the
intelligence agencies, who knows, but maybe the
intelligence agencies would be a Trump
is a very interesting speech pattern. Maybe the intelligence
agencies who knows but maybe the intelligence agents, yeah, he
does it. That's, that's got to be NLP somehow. Because he got
to
agencies, who knows, but maybe the intelligence agencies, which
would be a tremendous blot on their record, if they in fact,
did that a tremendous blog. thing like that should have
never been written. It should never been had, and it should
certainly never have been released. But I want to thank a
lot of the news organizations for some of whom have not
treated me very well over the years, a couple in particular,
and they came out so strongly against that fake news. And the
fact that it was written about by primarily one group and one
television station,
so I pulled a couple more quick clips from his from his press
conference, which I want to share. And the first one was
what Scott Adams said, was a great persuasion tactic against
the Hitler mean. And that, of course, was him saying, hey,
wait a minute, is this is this Nazi Germany? Tweet that you had
this morning about?
Are we living in Nazi Germany? What were you driving out there?
What are you trying to tell them? I
think it was disgraceful, disgraceful that the
intelligence agencies allowed any information that turned out
to be so false and fake out. I think it's a disgrace. And I say
that and I say that, and that's something that Nazi Germany
would have
done. Don't repeat himself think it's
sorry. You know, I
want you to start that clip over and listen to the way he repeat
this is that he may be onto something with the NLP says
disgraceful, disgraceful. And then he repeats himself a number
of times, in sometimes whole sentences.
It's neuro linguistic programming for those of you
that want to look at the tweet that you had this morning about,
are we living in knots will
count. disgraceful, disgraceful that the intelligence agencies
allowed any information that turned out to be so false and
fake out? I think it's a disgrace. And I say that and I
say that, and that's something that Nazi Germany would have
done and did do. I think it's a disgrace. That information that
was false and fake and never happened. got released to the
public.
I counted five. Well, there was it depends on if you want to
extend four or five. Yeah, yeah, it was a bunch. It's
a repeat That's 32nd clip so this repeat every six seconds
not bad. All right now, of course, the bit that everybody
saw if you didn't, it's just too beautiful. Since you're
attacking us. Can you give us a question? Mr. President Elect?
Go ahead president. Since you are attacking our news
organization, not can you give us a cheater organization
tracking our news organizations? You give us a chance to ask a
question, sir. Sir. Stay quiet, Mr. President Elect Go ahead.
You say like can you give us a Don't be rude. Give us a
question. Don't be. I'm not gonna give you can you stay kind
of you are fake news, sir. Can you state categorically that
nobody?
That's not appropriate. I love the clapping. Of course he did.
This at Trump Tower says a lot of people they're like, Yeah,
screw that. You are fake news. This is a great ISO.
You are fake news.
I love that. Best ice. You are fake news. Perfect. All right.
But what was interesting is right after that bit about the
fake news. A question was asked that didn't really make the
airways. But to us to the no agenda thinking, no agenda
minded people. It was interesting.
President Obama went too far with the sanctions he put on
Russia after the hacking. Do you think they went too far? Well,
he rolled them back. What do you think of Lindsey Graham say send
you a bill for tougher ones.
Please just send me a bill for what? tougher sanctions? I
hadn't heard Lindsey Graham was gonna do that. Lindsey Graham.
I've been competing with him for a long time. He's going to crack
that 1% barrier one day.
What do you think he means by that?
He means that he never got more of a
1% or 1%. Ah, yes.
He's gonna crack that 1% barrier one day. I didn't realize
Lindsey Graham still at it.
And now he does a real Trump thing.
I think Lindsey Graham's a nice guy. Oh, I've heard that. He's a
nice guy. And I've been hearing it.
I've been hearing it. Yeah. Don't worry, you'll change your
tune pretty quickly. He's not a nice guy. Now in in the
previous, I forget which session, this was exactly. They
had the intel community at the Senate. And it was Clapper, it
was Brennan. It was Admiral Michael Rogers, and it was
Comey. And before you before you jump to that, no, no, no, no, it
is. It isn't connecting, connecting it. It is very
important. Because what are we talking about? This is before?
This is before this memo came out? Before you got to put that
in your head? I'm gonna say one more time before? Well, before
it came out. It was yes. It actually came out. Yeah. So
yes. Before before this whole practice. Okay. All right. And I
think it was it's a Yeah, Senator Mark Warner, Democrat
from Virginia. It says something that in this context is mind
boggling.
You're There's long been a target of Russian attempts to
manipulate electoral processes. So they will continue with that.
And certainly, because of the controversy that's generated in
our country, I think that will reinforce their desire to do
that.
One of the things that actually another member of the committee
raised is certain Russian activities, again, just a no go
to the seriousness not only retrospectively, but
prospectively, that I believe there was a Russian dissident in
London, where Russian agents, in effect, planted false
information in this individual's personal file, and then called
law enforcement and said, look in this person's file, and there
was criminal child pornography placed there. Could you
anticipate at some time Russia trying if we don't take more
aggressive actions, trying those actions against American public
officials?
I love this. They're talking about the Russians doing what
they themselves just did. Now, whether they had done that
before the Senate hearing? I don't know. But we'll roll that
back. Just a little bit with that question.
Is there could you anticipate at some time Russia trying if we
don't take more aggressive actions, trying those actions
against American public officials?
Russians? I think well, I have no compunction about using the
full array of tools and techniques available in our kit
bag.
Do you have your kit bag ready John? Kit got your kit bag.
So I wouldn't put it past him to do that. Oh, and the tools that
he used, such as paying people to participate in social media
for example.
GE we don't do that if we don't do that.
Described as an effect the the new normal, the new normal
Russian doctrine is that correct?
Yes.
This is why didn't they just come right out and say, Oh,
Russia inserted that into the file that would have been much
better? would have been even funnier. But no, but just being
yourself up to the health, what you say about others is quite
you are.
I found that turning out to be the theme of this whole podcast,
generally speaking,
and listen to the last question. He doesn't one of those down the
line, everybody answered the question. Oh, yeah, I hate it if
you're sitting there, but it's great for the show.
Okay, go. And again, we've seen our system, your words, a
significant escalation in all and before us, we have people
with service in the IC, and defensive our nation and
hundreds of years. I'd like to just go down the line in any of
your careers. Have you ever seen this level of Russian
interference in our political process? And we'll start with
Director Comey and just go down the line.
Now. What would you say? So have we ever seen any say yeah,
in the 50s. It was like, when I was a kid, there we go. When I
was a kid, I forgot what grade I was in. But I was given an
assignment of it. It was something and it was when there
was so much anti communist stuff going on. That one of the
assignments was to find all the front organizations that are
actually can be linked to the Soviet Union. And I did this
report for me in grammar school, and it was page after page after
page. I was stunned myself, but apparently not compared to
today.
See the question one more time, this level of Russian
interference in our political process, and we'll start with
Director Comey and just go down the line. No. No, no, no. No,
that a lot of members. Oh, trash.
Now it's a lie. Yeah, these people are either idiots or
they're just stooges. Oh, take door
number one for 500.
Okay, wait, let
me let me just read clapper statement. That's important
because clapper released the statement after this all
everything got really high
after this go.
This evening, I had the opportunity to speak with
President Elect Donald Trump to discuss recent media reports
about our briefing last Friday. I express my profound dismay at
the leaks that have been appearing in the press and we
both agree that they are extremely corrosive and damaging
to our national security. By the way, Clapper is out now. He's
done. He's leaving. We already quit. Yeah. We also discussed
the private security company document which was widely
circulated in recent months among the media members of
Congress and congressional staff even before the IC became aware
of it. Oh, it's not
a private security company. But go on now. But and also litical
consultancy big difference. Yes, thank
you. But also why didn't they have a copy of it? Everybody had
it? That great, great work. I see.
I got it. I got a topper I wanna
I emphasize that this document is not emboldened, a US
intelligence community product that I do not believe that I do
not believe the see, read. This, again, is not a US intelligence
community product and that I do not believe the leaks came from
within the intelligence community. The intelligence
community has not made any judgment that the information in
this document is reliable, and we do not rely upon it in any
way for our conclusions. However, part of our obligation
is to ensure that policymakers are provided with the fullest
possible picture of any matters that might affect national
security. President elect Trump again affirmed his appreciation
for all the men and women serving in the intelligence
community. And I assured him that the IC stands ready to
serve his administration and the American people except for me,
because I quit. That's just minor detail. Okay, now not that
anyone will care that he said that.
No, I sure don't know. So this guy now let me get this
straight. So So Clapper is the head of the all the head of the
he's the he's the Tet the detent He's the new Moto capo. Yeah,
he's the guy that top he should know everything right? Yep. And
he apparently doesn't know anything. And we've ruined this
before. If you remember that one time. There's some big yeah,
there's a couple years ago, I think this one here comes close.
This is clapper on RT.
Okie dokie. And James Clapper who is the Director of National
Intelligence joined the chorus against RT however, when asked a
question about Artis reach in America, he seemed unsure
China continues to succeed
director collaborateurs RT get
any events broadcast into the United States? Yes, it does.
Some it does is very prevalent in Europe and lesser so I think
there's an RT channel here.
She's Oh, I think there's an RT channel here. Maybe pause it I
don't know. I think
the channel here that's his extent of His knowledge
that is that is our intelligence community right there. Oh, I
think there's an RT channel here, I think,
how can he say that? What did he tell me? What an idiot? Oh, my
goodness.
And besides that the bitching and moaning about our tea
constantly, and then he thinks there's an RT channel here. He
thinks maybe there might be. Well, of course, they're big in
Europe, big in Europe.
So there's not much more to say about this. Other than that, it
was obviously fake news. And that, not BuzzFeed. Putting this
out. I mean, for me, the funniest thing is also
everyone's like, Well, how could a news organization put this
out? Hello, Buzzfeed. It's a clickbait farm.
I have a couple more clips. Oh, my
me. If I ran BuzzFeed shit, yeah. And put that out.
Here's Ben Smith being grilled by
Ben Smith. Or he's the he's the editor of BuzzFeed.
He owns it. Yeah. The Meet the Press guy. Yeah, Chuck. Chuck.
Chuck. Chuck. Chuck, Chuck's grilling and I could have put
the whole thing in here. I got a little bit of it. I got these
clips too. So it's on and on. And Chuck is Chuck is actually
irked. He hates this guy, even though they're friends. He hates
him for doing this. This is this is the worst thing you could do.
I think Ben Smith is right.
This sentence publishing this dossier reflects how we see
referring to yourself. The job of reporters in 2017, that makes
this makes me think this is a decision you would have you
would not have made the same decision in the pre Trump era.
Oh, no, I'm not really referring to the pre Trump era, I think
more of the pre Internet era. I mean, I think there was an
arrow. And I think there are reasons for us to be nostalgic
for it reasons for us to have issues with it where we could
act as gatekeepers, where we could say, You know what, crazy
people are claiming that Barack Obama's birth certificate is
forged. But we're not going to talk about that. That's crazy.
And I remember, remember, we were both there during Obama's
first campaign that was at first the approach, and then you see
these things spread. And you have to engage them. And I
think, I think there was an era when you would, when you would
be the gatekeeper for information, you would say to
end you would say to your audience, trust us, we're
keeping things from you. We have lots of secrets, we're not
telling you that you should trust us. I think you could say
that was a good error. You could say that was a bad error. That
is not the present day. And so I guess I would I mean, I think
that so there were in in that context, that we that we did
decide to publish this. And we like, like many other
organizations that had it for weeks had reporters in Europe in
the United States, trying to stand up or knock down specific
details. There. And this was a document that was not just
circulating at the highest levels of the intelligence
community, the most powerful intelligence officials in the
country, referring to in briefings to the president and
States President Elect reportedly disputed lay the
political elite, you know, top elected officials, the Gang of
Eight John McCain's facade, certainly the media elite had
it. And I think, and we're not enough, didn't just had it,
we're starting to act on Harry Reid had written the letter
referring to it. And I think when you have an object that is
in play, that is having consequences for the way our
elected leaders are acting, the court you do have to ask the
question of why should I suppress that? There are then
good reasons right? Once though, emerges as it did last night,
the in the public conversation that there is this secret
document floating around full of dark allegations that we will
not repeat to you that I feel like in this era, you really
have to share your readers what that is.
I pulled completely different clips from that from that piece.
I'm, I find it interesting, you pulled those?
Well, the reason is, because that was at the beginning. And
that was when check was the most direct. Can I play my claim? And
then the Yeah, and then they went back and forth and back and
forth. And I don't think that Smith really altered his
position much. I think Todd made some good points. But the more I
think about it, especially in regards to our show, we don't
mind talking about the potential of Obama being a Muslim, or
they're Obama might be gay or bisexual or we discuss these
things. We have some evidence and we used to play you know,
have different kinds of crazy clips. We bring all this stuff
out. And I think this because this is I think Smith is right,
this is the new world that we're
I got so I got some grass. Yes. So
this WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks is just like, let's get it all out
there. Yeah, we leeches
more news than than BuzzFeed. Hulu.
Exactly.
Here's I here's my I know this
was not your intent. I've known you a long time. Which you just
published fake news.
That's that's why I like that. You just published fake news,
bitch.
We just published a dossier. No, I think that's a really Yeah,
not a lie is that we just published
the dossier.
I agree that I don't think it was fake.
I think BuzzFeed is not news fair description.
I would love to throw the term fake news around to diminish
anything.
Like, trust me, I'm aware.
It seems to be there. It's almost like you're saying there
was there was only two choices you had here. Not publish or
publish. There is a gray area. I understand this idea in this day
and age that that there are many readers that feel as if proof
show me that you have the goods. There is such thing as redaction
and redacted. Yeah, there could have said here it is there. You
didn't do many. You did very few. And in some cases, not
enough as far as even I believe one of one of the people who
contributed
to it. Okay, so luckily, we have a print journalist in our midst.
What do you think about redacting? Should they be
redacted? The the P bit
action is done on behalf of the government to keep certain names
and addresses and maybe some details away from the public in
government documents?
Which is why Chuck Todd is so familiar with it.
That are you exactly. That is used to protect certain is it's
a protection mechanism that is used by the government to censor
stuff? Yes. That can't be given out. This isn't a government
document is some guys rant. Why would you redact anything you
look like a total douchebag? Well,
what it said what it tells I think it uses
the word P let's take that word P out.
It. It shows that Chuck Todd certainly believes this is a
government document. I think that's what it shows.
No. I just think he thinks that redaction
is good. I
understand. You're probably right.
I think here's another here's another quickie late I'm gonna
quote Margaret Sullivan. Who's Margaret Solomon. Oh, yeah,
right. Yes. Here we go.
She just says flatly, it's never been acceptable to publish rumor
and innuendo period. I agree with her.
I think that we are now in a media environment where you have
to engage in Lauren at once. I mean, I guess I think it's an
event we have to you no longer have the luxury, where the and
where the legacy media, which has, at times turned away from
saying, Wow, there is all of this crazy stuff on the
internet, we're not going to touch it. We're going to stay
out of it. And we're just going to kind of let it spread. And I
think that sunlight is a disinfectant where it is
important to
show I'm a little tired of the sunlight is the best
disinfectant. I'm tired of this. I'm hearing this everywhere. So
we believe sunlight is the best disinfectant. I'm reading this
in company mission statements, all kinds of stuff. This is
a tell somebody with the flesh eating bacteria that
spread. And I think that this is a place where sunlight is a
disinfectant word is important to show your audience
you have it there was a line, when does the line become
yelling fire in a theater?
I think that you're absolutely right that there's
a fire in the theater. That's the That's the right answer. I'm
sorry, the right answers. You asked me the question, what when
does it become there was a time when you can yell fire in the
theater when there's a fire when there's a fire? So fire is the
other right answer. Yeah.
What is What is your answer?
What is your answer to good answers?
My What is your answer?
When there's a fire? No, it is the right answer is what I was
thinking
on become yelling fire in a theater.
I think that you're absolutely right, that there's that that
you can reasonable people can disagree. I mean, I'm not sure
that you would say that the effect of public that the effect
of publishing this has made people think it's more credible,
by the way.
Hold on. Yeah. I said no, I actually had all this too, but I
cut it off. But you're right. It's it's actually very good. U
haul you have to do is go to BuzzFeed. to that article where
they released that document and read the comments. What he said
is total bull crap. All the comments are the same. Oh, this
will do it. This will finish off Trump. The guy's a douche. I
knew Trump was doing stuff like this. It was just a whole the
comment stream is all about how bad Trump is.
And what's so sad. And this is, you see this on the face bag is
that the people who live now you and I live pretty much in two
dimensions. At the same time. It's very tiring, but we were
able to live in, in these two dimensions that we've been split
down the middle worldwide, for sure. The United States. They
are so desperate is that they like any, like anything crying
all the time. Anything that floats by? They'll just grab it
as some driftwood grab it. Yes. I mean, we do have a system in
America, we have a political system. And you can there's ways
to work against the party you don't like and a president you
don't like and there's a system we have a system for that. It's
called governance. And there's you know, there's rules and
regulations. And he's not a dictator, but it's pathetic,
this image. You see the stuff the stuff that people are coming
up with for this, you know, for the parade, you know, for the
big for the big Women's March. And now women by the way, are
all fight. They're all pissed off that men aren't showing
enough support for the Women's March. I mean, what do you want?
What do you want? Huh? And then, you know, part of this is the
pussy hat project. So everyone has to knit a pussy hat.
Oh, I don't know this.
Oh my god. Yeah, it's a Lincoln. Like, give me a link in the show
notes. I'll send it to you. It's celeb celebrities. This is my
favorite. Celebrities are calling for a total Hollywood
strike until Trump resigns. The watch? Yes. Strike. No more
entertainment. Oh, no. What
will we do with that? We
must have our movies.
What will we do? And this kind of leads into Meryl Streep? I
didn't clip her everyone saw it. But there is an issue a couple
of issues with what she said. Number one to say that mixed
martial arts is not an art form is I think a mistake
which is you got a lot of backlash for saying oh yeah,
and to say that they're not an international group is also you
that actually one of our producer what she was thinking,
what did she do that Ashley is one of our producers and she
said, Hey, excuse me. I have listed the current list of
female and male UFC champions where the respective
nationalities as you can see, they're quite a bit more foreign
than Meryl Streep made it out to be Poland, Brazil, us, Ireland,
England, Croatia.
Go all over to find those maniacs. Yeah,
but also it so this kind of comes back to the same thing
that people living this dimension of we're all gonna die
Trump is horrible. You know? We'll have no health care. We'll
have to do abortions with with coat hangers, and all this
stuff. You know, the oh, well, let's reach out to the
celebrity. And the hero worship of Meryl Streep. Which to me was
almost disgusting. Almost almost a seriously almost disgusting.
It's really pathetic. Like, oh, thank you Meryl. You really set
it girl. You know, one of the Oscars. I can't wait for that.
That's gonna be a
show. That's gonna go Jim. I actually didn't see I'm sorry.
Last clips on this.
But I'm not quite done. I just wanted to play live a couple
more things. We got to take a break though. So I think we're
in agreement that BuzzFeed de totally in their right. There's
not a news organization. But they do
listen. I don't care where they are not they can do this. Yeah,
but they do. listicles who gives a
crap? Now CNN who pretend to be a credible news organization. I
think that they definitely were screwed up they screwed up. And
the the amount of defense people coming to CNN is defense on
this. In fact, Here is Shep Smith from Fox new Fox News
defending CNN,
the internet is now courage the sorry, that's the wrong one.
Here
it is further. President elect Trump today told CNN Jim Acosta,
that his organization amounts to fake news. CNN is exclusive
reporting on the Russian matter was separate and distinctly
different from the document dump executed by an online news
property that we at Fox News cannot confirm CNN report. It is
our observation that its correspondence followed
journalistic standards and that neither they nor any other
journalists should be subjected to belittling, and D
legitimizing by the president elect of the United States.
And then here's CNN with an X Wait,
hold on a second. He calls him an online news property instead
of actually mentioning BuzzFeed data some spite.
I don't know why. Maybe that's a Fox News.
Why they mentioned CNN, which is a direct competitor. BuzzFeed
isn't?
I don't know. I don't know. But here's CNN is panel talking
about hate and hostility towards journalists. Oh, yeah. It's
finally Ave
he doesn't think about the implications to anybody other
than himself. Have you ever heard of anybody in politics,
let alone a presidential nominee doing anything like this to the
fourth is much, much worse than the Fourth Estate,
the fourth estate and
Obama do with Fox when he first got in on the White House press
company arrested people.
The fourth is this is much, much worse than what we've seen in
the past. It is one thing for candidates to criticize the
press say they're getting bad coverage. But Donald Trump is
routinely lying to his supporters about the media.
Yeah, in little ways and in big ways. And that has damaging
effects. For the viewers who are watching and more importantly
for the voters who support him because they're being misled and
there's a mob mentality now of steak. People are yelling and
shouting and threatening reporters in a way I've never
seen. That's right.
They go over to the prospect. I
mean, they I mean, there's the largest Shut up.
But then there's the individual aspect of people going to the
press and the press are penned in and yelling at them making
vulgar gestures.
I dealt with it. At the RNC, I get the passion. But a
politician has a responsibility you shake the passion of people,
I don't mean to call supporters, sheep, I respect people who want
to back politicians trust me, but he makes them angry. And
then instead of saying things to you, they want to do things to
you, and I'm telling you, something's gonna happen.
Something is going,
something's gonna happen. I'm telling, like,
we had this clip of our local guy went to a Trump thing, and
he says it seemed like it was in good fun. They were yelling and
screaming at the press. So he says he never felt threatened.
Now, these people don't get out much. I have two clips in this
next clip is the topper to what you just played. Here is the
same kind of thing that you just played by Ed Schultz. And he is
Schultz is the guy who used to be at MSNBC on RT firebrand,
a US intelligence community product, and they have not made
any judgments on RT America host Ed Schultz told us that
publishing unverified stories is ruining the credibility of
several outlets.
I think that this is a low time for journalism in America, that
this is going to hurt the entire industry. It's unfortunate that
CNN is letting it play out like the old movie, The Godfather,
there's a lot of buffers here. Nobody wants to say who did
what, when and how. But there's just a lot of buffers, and
there's a few names on there. Keep in mind that all of these
intelligence people work for Barack Obama. Keep in mind that
this reeks of Clinton politics. This is the kind of stuff that
they do. They get behind the scenes, they get operatives,
they pay them off, they get an MI six guy involved and they get
this person involved in that person involved. The next thing
you know, it's in the mainstream media. And oh, by the way,
Donald Trump is put in a position today where he has to
come out and label CNN fake news. CNN took the bite, and now
they're taking the dive their credibility right now goes right
in the toilet for what has happened to them over the last
48 hours. Jake Tapper actually went on the air last night with
other anchors and reporters and said, we've been working on
this. This is outrageous. They've taken a couple of phone
calls from people who are trying to get Donald Trump. They've
tried to turn it into a story. It's unsourced. And as I said,
there's times in this business of yesteryear, when people acted
like this was they got
fired. Oh, boy, he's really changed. I don't recognize him.
It's very funny. Now, the funny thing is, is that they trump
thanked all these news organizations for really
reporting on this. But what he missed on was the the night of
the night after that. All the late night hosts all of them
didn't material. And the material was, I think, worse
than any news report. It's shameful. But you have to admit
it's funny. And I do have one clip of Jimmy Kimmel's rude
routine on this particular thing. This is ABC, and you have
to assume that it's once the cat's out of the bag, which I
think it was, you know, the once the story is out, and once you
hear these, these these ad assertions, not only do they do
material on it, which is what a comedian is supposed to do, but
they add a little negative Trump stuff in there just to make it
worse. I mean, this is not healthy. What's what you're
going to hear
heard about this because this story that just came through but
the big story today CNN learned that top intelligence officials
in the United States like FBI CIA, have presented evidence
that Russian operatives claimed to have compromising personal
and financial information about Donald Trump and you hate to
mention unsubstantiated rumors about Trump because he would
never do that to someone else. But there's a document going
around that indicates he hired prostitutes to perform golden
showers on a bed the Obamas once slept, in which stat so that is
a leak of elite. Maybe this is what Hillary was hinting at when
she mentioned Trump trickle down economics.
The intelligence of Israel say not only does Russia claim to
have information on Trump, there was a continuing exchange of
information during the campaign between Trump's people and the
Russian government, which would can a president be impeached
before he's even inaugurated?
Well, it's your own fault. John, your own damn fault. You brought
up ABC, sorry. Now you have to endure. You know what I'm
talking about? ABC. Okay. This is how the ladies of the view
responded to this news. And remember a lot of women get
their news from the view they believe that this is
so if I didn't play that last clip I last I would put into
play this bullcrap I would have
used to be right is bullcrap.
Donald Trump had just been rocked by an unsubstantiated
collection of research memos claiming Russian operatives have
compromising financial and personal info that they can use
to blackmail him. Now, we can't get into specifics, but I do
have a Shaolin with allegations right now. Is this a golden
opportunity? Democrat? Will he be able to clean his lakes?
Why is it that when
people on mainstream media or some would say legacy media,
by the way, I didn't mention it when they came up with one of
the previous quotes, this is show showing up a lot. legacy
media, I think, is that I haven't really heard this like
six months ago, during what do we want? Corporate media, big
media?
Do we want to adopt that? I mean, it's it's a delicacy.
I don't know that we want to adopt it. But I definitely want
to make people aware of it being used to for mainstream, may it
just be MSM. Right.
So what is mainstream media? Yeah, I don't like that. What is
mainstream? What is the well, you know, what? Let's get the
exact definition of mainstream the ideas, attitudes or
activities that are regarded as normal or conventional, the
dominant trend in opinion, fashion or the arts. Okay, and I
think it's still mainstream, because it's still the
dominating opinion. Would you not agree? Yes, absolutely.
Okay. So it's still the dominating opinion. And we
continue. What I was going to say is, it's amazing that people
love the simplest jokes I made. I made the same jokes in the
opening of the show. Yeah, did we get but you go, who? And by
the way, I agree. But everyone else is clapping. It's fabulous.
Oh, Jimmy Kimmel, you made so many funny. Use of funny instead
of just saying, just what was in the report? We can't say that
because I don't know. It's gonna butthurt somebody? Why don't we
just say what's in the report? You know, why does mo kinda did
kind of, but then he again, goes back to golden shower. This has
nothing to do with golden shower anyway to get the morning,
you know, you know, unsubstantiated but you know, I
do recall, though, you know, that when, you know, the days
when they were saying, you know, Mama's not?
Oh, she's Oh, she's so old. She's still using, you know,
hello. 1980 days
when they were saying, you know, Obama's not on America. He's,
he's, he's, he's part of the, the, he's a Muslim, or he's part
of the Taliban. Those weren't
squinted. Did anyone say he was part of the Taliban? Wow.
Those were fake news. And yet they ran with it. Yeah. So well,
we're gonna
I think she's saying the news. Who, right?
I never heard anybody running with this
with the TAT Well, there was certainly Taliban or Muslim
Well, what she's trying to say is the birth certificate she's
trying to say the birth certificate but she can't say it
I don't know why she can't say I don't know what's going on
whatever she said it was funny.
This present came a little late. My running shoes
with the Russians are calling these leaks nonsense. They're
saying no, none of this is true. None of this is true. But you
know,
awkwardness warping, the Russians are saying it the
operative word being the Russians are saying it's little
more than one word.
I think that the ex CIA acting director, his name's Michael
Morrell. He said this morning, that they do appear to be
intelligence reports. Oh Morales in on it from an MI six British
intelligence officer. And so while they are unsubstantiated
and unsourced or unconfirmed, I think what we really need to be
concerned about is the fact that our now future president could
possibly be at the, you know, as compromised by our Russian
adversary. And they could have information that could I guess,
blackmail him? Well, here's
the thing like so I know I have a source I can't name who it is,
oh, my source says that he owes the Russians a lot of money like
a half a billion dollars or something back to now here's the
scenario. So he becomes The President Oh my god. I know
because you know, as day follows night that's gonna happen. She
was
She This is the first time she actually said Trump will be
president. This has been very hard for her.
So he becomes the this the leader of the free world, you
can't make this up. And, and the Russians can blackmail him about
the boycotts, for example. And the all of the stuff that we've
been doing what she
can't figure out what she also is, what she's just bad, she's
trying to say is sanctions,
sanctions, the sanctions, right, so he lives for sanctions,
because otherwise we're gonna get to soccer. And that's why
there's a problem. That's exactly why there is a problem.
To clarify, our legal team is saying that this is a collection
of research and memo. This is the ABC legal teams, ABC News is
saying this is unconfirmed, this is unverified as explosive, but
unsubstantiated allegations. With that being said, you have
to say that because this stuff is unverified, if any of this is
true, and is found to be true, and the FBI is currently
investigating it, they're doing their job. This is very
problematic, because the allegations are that there was
collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians. And
if you remember, a lot of people that opposed Hillary Clinton
opposed to our because they felt that as a result of this email
leak, that she was potentially compromised, that there could
have sworn and untrustworthy and not only that, but there could
have been foreign involvement and all of these questions
conservative rose, which I think were justified came up now many
of those people all of a sudden, don't have a problem with any of
these stories. You know what? Question everything right now
everything that comes out, you need to question it and you need
to let investigators do their job. The fact that this went to
President Obama, this has gone to top officials now
we're going to have Whoopi wrap it all up and she's just going
to come out and say she thinks it's probably true.
Wayne's gay went to Mr. And it's not like they just found this
out. They had known this for a while. Listen, y'all set the
bar. You set this up. You said this is we should trust all
this. Well, now we gotta trust this to you. It's not good for
the goose and not good.
Like it's not good for the goose and good for the gander. These
people are crazy. They're just throwing out throwing out things
and even know what it means. But Oh yeah, well, this could be
true. We gotta believe this. We got we got to do that Shane
things possum it's just shameful. Anyway, that's, uh, I
guess that's kind of what we have. Or he is our president.
He's Trump. He's the president of that jingle. And with that,
I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning
to you John. So he stands for CNN is fake news don't
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You know that they took the Russia, you got to take the
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I'm gonna read a note from Scott Hamilton, who actually is the
notice of reference Scott Hamilton
the the skater? I
don't I really doubt it. It's like Cohen pretty common name.
Oh, no agenda shall be remains the best podcast because it's
not beholding to advertisers. And he points to this thing
that's in the Holiday Inn entry on Wikipedia, which is a movie
he and his wife just watched and the Wikipedia says beginning in
the 1980s, some broadcasts of the film entire entirely omitted
the Abraham musical number staged at the end for Lincoln's
birthday. It is in this movie Holiday Inn, because of its dis
depiction of a Blackface minstrel show incorporating
images and behaviors that are now considered offensive.
However, because Turner Classic Movies airs, uncut and unedited
the network is left to Abraham number intact. During the
screenings of Holiday Inn. AMC also aired the film intact
before they became an advertiser supported channel to avoid
advertiser objections. The edited version now airs annually
on AMC just a little point that advertising has this influence
to keep people from seeing or discussing certain things or
saying, Yes, this case, yes.
Well, I want to talk about something else which I think is
very pourtant case I'm not quite sure of the legal status of it,
but it is being discussed in the Senate right now. And it's
incredibly important for social media networks and why this is
getting zero play. I've been I caught it on C span, by
accident.
By serendipity,
serendipity would be the right thing. The premier place for
escorts to advertise their wares is Backpage. I don't know if
that's International, but I'm sure it is in the United States.
And they were shut down in the United States.
Well, so this just happened. This just happened two days ago,
the Backpage shut down their adult entertainment category.
And if you go there now, then you click on any of the
categories of adult entertainment, which is code for
hookers. pokers, it says censored the government has
unconstitutionally censored this content, and then has some
links, what happened? Find out, use your social media to support
free speech, blah, blah, blah. Okay. Now, the allegation, of
course, for a long time, which started with Craigslist, is that
these advertisements, often are used for human trafficking,
child prostitution, etc, which I'm sure there's a level of that
no doubt about it. But they are now being hauled in Backpage.
That is, and this is a conversation between Senator
Portman who was questioning the CEO of Backpage about their
practices, but what the the, the reasoning they use to say, you
are bad, you are horrible be you are breaking the law, which I
believe to be incorrect, is quite interesting. And I think
very, very important for the Internet and services on the
internet, in general. So to set that up, we have the Digital
Millennium Millennium Millennium Copyright Act. And what was the
genius of this act? Is that it said that if you are just a a
place where people post content, you are not liable for what
happens or what is being said the am I summing that up
correctly.
It's an element, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, it was
a lot bigger than that. It was a lot. It was mostly about back
engineering and things, reverse engineering things like
but this is the entire reason that we can have Twitter that we
can have YouTube that we can all these different things. That was
the entire reason because you're not editorializing. You're not a
news is for Yahoo groups and some of these others. So this is
an important now listen to what he's saying.
Mr. Ferreira, your company has repeatedly avoided liability by
invoking invoking section 230 of the Communications Decency
Act Okay, shall we listen to them just for a second? Section
230 of the Communications Decency Act. And in this it says
no provider or user of an interactive computer service
shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any
information provided by another information content provider.
So, in other words, in other words, these are online
intermediaries. That was the entire idea. Can
you read that again? Yeah, sure.
No provider or user of an interactive computer service
shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any
information provided by another information content provider. So
this means if I think it actually also means if the if I
have an RSS feed and it posts something that is defamatory
that I cannot be held liable, because I am not. I'm not a
public, I would not treat it as a publisher. If I'm if it's just
stuff people post in comments or anything of the like. Okay. So
that's what that's what it says
Mr. Ferreira, your company has repeatedly avoided liability by
invoking invoking section 230 of the Communications Decency Act
that's been referenced a couple of times this morning. This Act
protects websites who just post content created by third
parties. But a report issued today and posted yesterday
afternoon demonstrates conclusively that your reliance
on this Communications Decency Act Section has not been
accurate. It's been a fraud, frankly, on the courts on the
victims you sued, who sued you and on the public. Why do I say
that? I say that because Backpage took an active hand in
creating the ads on your site. As I talked about my opening
statement, you systematically deleted words, phrases and
images submitted by users that reveal that the posted ad is for
any old legal transaction not just prostitution but also child
sex trafficking documents show that you called the practice
stripping out content from an ad you even maintained an extensive
strip ad strip term from ADS list of words that we talked
about earlier
I'm explain what he's talking about on many sites when you and
chat rooms and all over the internet I'll give you a good
example. Airbnb does not want you to communicate through
anything but the Airbnb system when you reserve an Airbnb, so
if you type in your phone number or email address, Airbnb strips
that out in the messaging system, okay, that's what
they're talking about stripping out things is basically saying,
okay, for some reason why? Because it's a it's a Silicon
Valley thing, right. Okay, go.
Let's talk about one of the words on that list. This is an
email you received from Mr. pedia, explaining that he was
preparing a spreadsheet of and I quote, the most current list of
coded terms set to be stripped out in the document in front of
you. You've highlighted one of the many words on that list. Can
you read that? Highlight it word on that list?
Asshole after consultation? Whoa, stop
in a second. Now, what I'm getting from this so far is that
this guy, the senator, whoever it is, I can't you mentioned
him. Yeah, Porter is grilling this guy for doing this. Because
if he wasn't doing this, that would give him the right to
publish oldest child. In other words, he's encouraging child
trafficking. Yeah, the guy that does Backpage but the senator
well, so the senator what the Senator is trying to say. Is
that a current as a congressman, now this is Senator. Okay. The
senator is trying to say, your ads, advertise Child child
trafficking, human trafficking, child sex, prostitution, etc.
And he's connecting that by saying, you automatically strip
out words, which he's going to say in a moment, you
automatically strip out words, therefore you are
editorializing. Just keep listening word on that list. So
it's really nice as could you please read the first word on
that list?
Can you read that highlighted word on that list?
After consultation with counsel? I declined to answer your
question. Based on the rights provided by the First and Fifth
Amendments.
In that case, I'll read it the word is Lolita. There are some
other words on that list. Teenage rape, young, just so
everyone understands. This is a document listing code words to
be stripped out of advertisements. And the ads were
then posted on the internet on Backpage. Anyway, consists of
what we talked about in the opening statement. This was a
way to edit these ads, but still take the payment and profit from
the ads. Next question. Mr. Farrar if an underage girl is
being sold for sex on Backpage, and her pimp puts the word
Lolita in the advertisement stripping that term out of the
ad doesn't magically change the girls age does it?
After consultation with counsel. I declined to answer your
question based on the rights provided by the First and Fifth
Amendments.
Okay, so he's very, and I liked that. I've never heard the
taking the fifth by adding the first I like that, that's pretty
cool. Now, here's the problem. What the Senator is saying is
when you automatically by computer system, strip out
certain words, which could be F words, s words, all kinds of
things. This is done all over the internet viewer than
editorializing because you then still take money and place the
ad. In, you know, I think Backpage is, you know, for them
to shut down their adult services, you know, it's going
to hurt local commerce. I'm not kidding. I think it's I think
it's much bigger than anybody realizes. But the Senator is
incorrect. Specifically, there are a number of court cases that
have gone through this, the Fourth Circuit lawsuits seeking
to hold a service liable for its exercise of a publishers
traditional editorial functions such as deciding whether to
publish withdraw, postpone or alter content are barred. The
purpose of the statutory immunity is not difficult to
discern, Congress recognized the threat that tort based lawsuits
posed to freedom of speech in the new emerging internet
medium. Section 230 was enacted in part two maintain the robust
nature of internet communication. And there are
many lawsuits where this type of editorializing is not seen as
editorializing. And therefore you still have the safe harbor.
If this is successful, whatever they're trying to do, I don't
know if there's an actual lawsuit. If this is successful,
then I mean, how can you apply that to adult services
advertisements, but not to Facebook or Twitter or YouTube
or any of these systems?
You'd have to
exactly so that's why I find this to be incredibly
interesting and very important.
I think it is. And there we had that clip sucks. Especially, the
clip was fine. It was never good.
I know I didn't have a kicker. I should have had a hooker here.
Kicker. I'm
so dumb. I'm sorry. You actually,
the kicker was in your little exposition at the end, but I
didn't. I didn't. I didn't take it as a kick. I
didn't kick it right. I kicked
it was this you missed the
Lucy pulled the ball from under me.
Your play this little Iso I have reptile wins.
We love the ISOs. Really? What is that from?
Oh, it's from some stupid thing that was watching and everyone's
similar that show it was one of these things where they're
showing all these suppose it reptiles in the media? Yeah. And
then they you know they'd show a digital guy would go out of out
of whack because the digitisation didn't work and
make it look like he was changing. He was doing a what do
you call it but shape shifting. And every time they didn't go
reptile? Reptile did they had at the end? It was reptile when I
like that was I think referring to Katy Perry. Ah, was supposed
to be able years ago. Go ahead. Okay. Ask that question.
Whatever it was. No, go ahead, please. I want to play this
little thing since we were talking about this hearings. And
I just had to play this one. This is there's two hearings
that were important. There was the Tillerson and then there was
the Jeff Sessions and the Jeff Sessions one which I have a
little clip of. They were grilling him it was really
embarrassing. Cory Booker, this is apparently the first time
they set
this back on one second. What is happening here? Is there a
number of cabinet positions that the United States president can
appoint, but they have to be confirmed by the Senate? And
that includes state? Defense, DHS,
all the cabinet jobs, actually.
Every single one, I get I guess, Secretary Yeah, okay. Chuck
Schumer himself, the leader of the Democrats, now the minority
speaker said, Oh, we're gonna take our time. We're gonna make
it difficult. The
how's that? Good? Yeah. Anyway, so Cory Booker went after Jeff
Sessions, who after Chris has a lot of stuff on the internet
showing that they're great buddies before, but apparently,
I think Booker was goaded into this by the Black Caucus,
senators who seemed uncomfortable. He seemed very
uncomfortable. And it was embarrassing. I thought for him,
and he's supposed to be the next, you know, the next Obama.
But he's not going to cut it with pulling this stunt because
no senator has ever done this before. Senators do not testify
against senators. It's a boys club. It's not something we do
girls club. Yeah, whatever club it is, it's like you don't do
this. So so this guy is going to be snubbed for quite a while.
But the more interesting one was Rubio, who was testifying
against Tillerson, which you can do and Rubio
was like, all of a sudden, he's gonna be the defender, like, Oh,
I'm gonna take care of this. It'll all hang on me, Marco
Rubio. That's the feeling I got from him.
Well, I get the feeling that he for one thing he's definitely
not a no agenda listener because he's all in with with the bull
crap memes and the nonsense about it. Aleppo in particular
is bad. And let's play a little bit. That is a compilation of
some of Rubio's kind of going after this Tillerson character
in an anti Putin manner.
Is that the Rubio blasting Putin? Yeah, okay.
It's Vladimir Putin, the war criminal.
This question? Yeah, this was a big conversation. Well, two guys
asked it. Yeah. It's Vladimir Putin a war criminal? Is George
Bush
use that term?
In Aleppo? Mr. Putin has directed his military to conduct
a devastating campaign. He's targeted schools market that's
resulted in the death of 1000s of civilians. This is not the
first time Mr. Putin is involved in campaigns of the SAR
guys that
are very, very serious charges to make. And I would want to
have much more information before reaching a conclusion.
This person that has videos and the pictures, are
they only informed before advising the president? Well,
are you aware that people who oppose lameer Putin wind up dead
all over the world poisoned shot in the back of the head? And
have you never seen the Clinton body count?
Do you think that was coincidental or do you think
that it is quite possible or likely is I believe that they
were part of an effort to murder this political opponents?
Well, People who speak up for freedom in regimes that are
repressive are often a threat. And this and these things happen
to them. In terms of assigning specific responsibilities, I
would have to have more information.
None of this is classified. Mr. Tillerson, these people are
dead.
They're dead. Marco.
I don't know what he's trying to pull. But I thought it was
ludicrous.
I have a couple other clips from the hearings. Okay, from the
confirmation hearings, I thought, well, let's stay with
sessions for a moment. You know, it's just a funny little bit
just to get an idea of the humor. obsessions, of course,
he, he is being questioned for confirmation for attorney
general. And he is asked a question, and then he remembers
he's under oath.
But let me just ask you maybe it's not a great analogy. But
let me try anyway. You've been married to your wife, Mary,
almost 50 years, right? Well, it hadn't gotten to 50. Yet. 4740.
Well, that's a good run. Let me just ask you any content, other
than blasts? Are there occasions when you and your wife disagree?
No.
This is like, it's such an honest answer. You know, it's
like every guy No, no, no, none of 47 years now.
occasions when you and your dancer disagree. No, Senator.
White Man, I'm
under oath. On occasion we do.
What do you think it would be fair to carry? Oh,
I'm under oath. Someone actually yelled that in the background a
year. And I noticed. Yeah, it was funny.
That was a funny bit.
Wait a minute. I'm under oath, on occasion. And we do. Yes.
What do you think it would be fair to characterize the nature
of your relationship with your wife based upon those handful of
disagreements that you've had with her over over time? As a
good point, thank you for making it. No, I don't. Well, and to
your original point, your wife is always great.
Yeah. Okay.
That was cute. was careless. Cute. Good. Good catch.
Then we have now the nominee for Department of Homeland Security
is General John Kelly don't know a lot about him. But he was
asked I think it was McCain who was grilling him asked about the
problem, which I think only one person really highlighted. That
was Donald Trump, which is our opioid addiction. And he
mentioned this several times throughout many states, that we
have a real problem with heroin, but really opioid addiction. And
now, of course, you know, we got McCain, like, oh, we have a
problem with opioid addiction. Now sudden, it's top of the
list. And here's General John Kelly nominee for Department of
Homeland Security, his feelings on the public and narcotics of
the opioid variety.
Senator, I think I'd start off by saying, it's amazing to me,
but I just found out very recently that a an old friend
who's not so old, 62 years old, just just after a very
successful life just overdosed on heroin. And I think it to
your point, it's cheaper and more available in many ways than
some of the opioids and she could not apparently get a
prescription for what she thought she needed. But the
point is that most Americans don't realize it, but an awful
lot 100% of the heroin that we consume in the United States is
in fact produced in Mexico. And it's creeping down now into
Central America. They have responded to cartels, the
networks have responded to the demand. So instead of Asia and
South Asia, it now is all produced here in the Western
Hemisphere. Poppies have grown in countries as far south now as
Guatemala, a little bit in Colombia, although they're
getting after it. But it is all produced here, an awful lot of
the opioid see what looks like pharmaceuticals are actually
produced again in Mexico, and then paired it up here through
through the border. And of course, part of the problem, I
think, and this is, I think, would be outside my particular
area, if confirmed, but part of the problem is we are a very
overly medicated society. Huge amounts of opioids are
prescribed legally for things that in the past would probably
not receive that level of medication. So the point is
huge, huge problem getting worse. And the profits are just
unbelievable to the cartels that control the whole marketing and
transport.
Yeah. Which would be Big Pharma is the cartel you're referring
to. I liked that. He's thinking that way though. But we're over
there. We're over medicated. He's right Interesting. Yeah.
Now for some reason, you know that well done for some reason,
but the fear monitor,
I should mention somebody, there's, for people out there,
there may be a addict or two in our audience and it was the
reason that the guy like the 62 year old is a problem getting
off this stuff. Have you ever get addicted? You probably
should avoid it. But the problem is that, especially with heroin,
you start using it and you build up a tolerance, and you start
using more and more and more. Yeah. And then so you get to
like, instead of using one get you may get to peak heroin.
Yeah, yeah, peak heroin, say you're 5x and then you get off
of it somehow. And then you somehow want to go back. For
some reason you you're depressed. I don't know what
causes people to backslide. But apparently they do. They start
with their old dose that kills them
right off the bat, because they don't have the resistance. Yeah.
Well, it's very sad. Now, what is? I'm a little I don't know if
I'm surprised or not. But so the president elect Trump has said,
we're going to repeal and replace Obamacare, the
Affordable Care Act, which we know a lot about here on the
show. That's gonna be the first order of business, and we're
going to sign the repeal, and then we're going to within the
same hour, maybe sign the New Deal. And from what I understand
the new did there have been plans around for a long time?
There's a lot of different plans. But every everywhere I
look everywhere, I tried to find out what are the plans I hear,
they don't even have a plan? Well, it turns out, they do have
a plan. And Rand Paul, Rand Paul is the man with the plan.
Actually, I don't want to delay the repeal. I'm all for the
repeal as soon as we can get to it. But we should vote on
replacement the same day. And I'm putting together a bill that
will be out this week, that will be a consensus replacement bill.
There are many bills, probably 50 Different Republican bills,
some of them that have been out two and three decades for the
replacement part. What we want to do in the replacement is
legalize the ability to buy inexpensive insurance, get rid
of the Obamacare mandates, let any insurance product we sold,
particularly inexpensive insurance products, that's
number one, let people save tax free, give them tax credits for
health savings accounts, so they can buy insurance. And then the
third thing we want to do is let individuals come together as
part of groups or associations. So they can buy their insurance
as part of a big pool to have leverage to get lower prices.
And also so they don't get affected by adverse things like
pre existing conditions. And so basically, we put together the
most popular, and I think there is a consensus, I think it'll
pass overwhelmingly in the house. The question in the
Senate is, Will Democrats be willing to work with us to
replace Obamacare?
They won't? Oh, no, of course they want but what do you think
of what do you think? What do you think of the general plans?
The way I hear it, is they're going to deregulate the
industry, which is arguably one of the problems that you can't
sell across state lines and there's all these
supplies to be able to sell across state lines. Yeah, but
that's a temporary fix. I'm to do and it was well, you know, I
like the idea of I think it's too late to do anything other
than than a aggressive single payer and that means Medicare
Medicare, not Medicaid. Big difference Medicare for
everyone. Medicare's been in place nobody bitches about it.
In fact, you'll lose votes if you run on an anti Medicare
ticket you will not get anyone over 65 will not vote for you
period because everyone over 65 Who uses Medicare likes it Yeah,
they all like it even though it's a government program but
the but but there's no bitching about it so if it's so good that
all these old farts like it why don't you just extend it to
everybody? That's what doesn't make sense to me where they they
are what's what that brings it up at all the Republicans and
all the guys all the Republicans and Democrats are on the pockets
of the pharmaceutical companies. Oh no, we can't do that. We
can't do that we have to do this we have to do something else.
Because the whole thing is based on a complete scam relating to
the pharmaceutical companies I need to write this up so it's
more clear but that's all it's about. That's our reason all
these prices have skyrocketed because the pharmaceutical
companies figure well we got the we can just
do not discount the the two companies that own all the
hospitals I mean, they're also the completely out of
another issue, which is a problem. And then the other
thing is because of the because this is all going through
insurance companies and not the government. The dot you talk to
any doctor who's sensible who do handles all these insurance, you
know, networks is it whereas if isn't a network, they spend all
their time on the phone. They have full time people arguing
with everything they prescribe every Anything they recommend if
it involves a prescription and they have to fight it and fight
it and fight it and then they're always they always give us in at
the end. My doctor just bitches about this incessantly.
I be the single payer is a big dispute. A lot of people don't
do not like that idea at all at all at all. I definitely don't
I don't want to say been brainwashed not to like the
I've lived in single payer, and I didn't like it. That's me.
That's my experience. That's not brainwashing I lived it. It
sucks.
Yeah, you couldn't do anything private, you couldn't do your
own thing on the side? Well, yes, of course I could. Well,
then what's wrong with that?
Because I just saw that it doesn't work for people who
can't afford private.
So So what you're saying is that because, first of all, the
French system works quite well. And people like it.
I'm not familiar with the French system. I've only lived in UK
and the Netherlands and both of
those about the Canadian system, which is i which is
why all the Canadians come here for their operations. Please
don't okay with this, what's wrong with that? Nothing. But
it's but they're running away from their system.
Then for certain things, because they're using because there's a
waiting lists because the system is abused. You know, most people
has been Canada, the United States everywhere except France.
I think Switzerland, Germany, maybe. Yeah, they got these
crappy systems, because they just abused the poor as what
happens in the DHS, they're all they do is he would listen to
the British Parliament. And this is all this complaining about
for our weight. And so they're moaning and groaning constantly,
because they hate their they hate the commoners. If you hate
your public, and you treat them like crap, which is what the
British seem to do with their DHS, yeah, it's gonna be a
crappy system. But you turn it around. And the particular
system we had, most people didn't have an end to any sort
of insurance at all. So it had to have to go into the day you
have to wait for are you want a four hour? Wait, yeah, you go to
the emergency room, you wait six hours, you wait eight hours,
what's the emergency room? That's acceptable. None of this
is well, well done. single payer system that wasn't rife with
corruption and hatred for the poor would work fine. It can be
done. And the example is, France. I brought up this
example with a guy like you. And he says
incredibly handsome, intelligent dude.
Exactly. He was but he was. He says, Well, France is a
different story.
I don't I can't speak about France In France, not what seems
to happen in general. So that's the
people move from England to France for their long term long
term health care.
Yes. Because the NHS Associate exam. Yes. Because they hate the
commoners. Okay, so hatred of the poor. All right. Well, I'll
give you this. I don't I don't do not agree, I would love to
see it outside of single payer first. But I will give you this,
the single payer would, of course, require incredible
negotiations with the insurance companies. But as you point out,
the pharmaceuticals and the entire healthcare industry, and
there would have to be negotiations to get the prices
down significantly. And I think Trump would be the guy to do
that. But I don't know if that's the plan. I don't think that is
gonna go in that direction.
Well, Trump has thought about single payer, he used to be a
single payer advocate. But he's not going to do it, because the
Republicans aren't going to go for it. Right. As far as they're
concerned, these pharmaceutical companies can rip off the public
and nobody cares. Now, whatever hearing Oh, it's free to free
enterprise. So
they will have but they will have to pay Medicare will have
to pay the doctors more. Because they a lot of doctors don't take
Medicare patients hatred of the poor, maybe, but also because it
really doesn't cover their cost. So that'll have to go up.
You can you can do a hybrid system that I think would work
fine. Okay. But we'll see. It's doable. They're not going to do
it. I just mentioned this is just that people, most people on
Medicare, like it, and they'll vote against you if you if you
go against it. So why is why is that? Why do they like it so
much. And that's a socialized medicine system that is single
payer? I'm thinking you're this country. I'm thinking you have
Medicare. It's single payer in this country. Yes. Why do they
like it so much?
Do you have it? Do you like it?
not that old? Me neither? Oh, what's my official age? I
can't 64 here's some good news, though. On that on the health
front.
Trump has named Robert Kennedy as the lead on the panel on
vaccine safety. I like that, yeah, get the crazy crackpots in
there.
Well, they got the crazy they got an anti global warming head
of the EPA. Yeah. They have an anti Vaxxer that's the head of
the Health and Human Services. Gotta
love it. I mean, if
we hadn't I live as a protester who was during Tillerson who I
liked by the way, I love listening to him again. I wasn't
watching him just listening. He reminds
me Tillerson reminds me of Jonathan Winters. That's a
winter 2000
year old man. Is that it?
No, Jonathan Winters was a very famous stand up comic that.
Didn't he do the bit the 2000 year old man? No, no, that's Mel
Brooks and
bar. All right.
I'm sorry. Okay.
So Jonathan Winters did these characters and one of the
characters that he did was was Tillerson is exactly, Tillerson.
Yeah. Anyway, only the older members of the audience will get
the reference. So tiller.
So Tillerson is testifying or answering questions, and then a
protest, like don't give the State Department to Exxon. And
I'm thinking to myself, are you kidding me? Just State
Department has been working on Exxon's behalf for decades,
forever. Yes, it's their extraction unit. Maybe Maybe
naive our people and maybe we'll have better deals with without
killing people if we do it their way. I don't know. It's just the
thought. However, in the United States of Gitmo, nation, Europe,
things are not good. Things are not good at all. There's a lot
of problems, particularly with the the entire concept of the
European Union, which is, amongst other things, which was
sold to people as freedom of movement. Yes, we're back to
talking about Schengen. It's in danger.
Officials from Denmark, Sweden and Germany have been as
emergency talks in Brussels amid mounting concerns over new
border controls. It comes after Sweden introduced ID checks on
all people traveling to Denmark and Denmark tighten controls on
its frontier with Germany. It's down to double blow to the
Schengen area.
We all agreed that the Schengen and free movement must be
safeguarded both for citizens and economy.
Sweden soak in more than 160,000 migrants last year, many of them
having traveled through Denmark is the largest number for any EU
country in relation to its population and has put a huge
strain on services. That's why the government decided to impose
stricter controls.
Now we of course, know that Denmark are the happiest people
on Earth.
So they are going through Denmark, which isn't really
attached to Sweden, but you can take that trip new train. Yes.
Into Malmo. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah.
So Denmark, happiest people on Earth. Also the most medicated
people on Earth, but you might want to just keep that secret.
They're also a little tired of the migrants, the fun loving
Danes who have everything perfect education, health care.
Oh and have some migrants
Denmark has agreed to back controversial changes to its
immigration laws. Among the proposals is a new measure to
take away refugees possessions worth around one and a half 1000
euros to pay for their stay. Last week, the Danish Prime
Minister made around refugees could keep would be raised from
the 400 euros initially suggested a backlash over the
rise in asylum seekers in Denmark has put the minority
center right government under pressure. It has just 34 seats
out of 179 in Parliament, and depends on the support of
parties to the right of center, including the anti immigrant
Danish People's Party.
Oh yeah, come here with your money. That is so funny that you
can come in here but you need to give us some money
go over floating around Europe. Let's listen to question time by
us. We love the Prime Minister and I have two clips here and
one of them is very interesting. The first one is question time.
This is the Scots one of the Scots. The Scots are always in
Parliament bitching about stuff and here's the Scots complaint.
It has been over six months since European referendum
embarrassingly for the Prime Minister, the Scottish
government is the only administration on his island
self published the plan on what to do next. Is the Prime
Minister read it yet? I said Prime Minister read it yet. And
when we should be publishing our own plan.
Come on join the honourable gentleman in wishing everybody
in the house not only members but all the staff of the house a
very happy new year. And can I say to him that I've as I said
to the liaison committee when I appeared in front of them before
Christmas. I will in a few weeks in a matter of weeks be setting
out some more details of our proposals on this issue. But I
would like just to remind the honourable gentleman when he
talks about the Scottish Government's plan that of course
it is his party, the Scottish nationalist party. wants to
leave the United Kingdom and therefore leave the European
Union.
Zinger there's nothing like parliament, you just say, Hey,
let me talk about this. I got something on my mind. I'm really
pissed off about
it. The head of the Scott, the Scots is Angus Robertson, I
always get a kick out of him. And he's always got the most
nasty things. And then he brings up a point, which I think was
completely obscured in American media for a number of reasons.
But let's listen to his question. And this is Angus
bitching about a situation that's evolved in Northern
Ireland because Robertson
Speaker, the Prime Minister has indicated that she wants to take
the views of the elected representatives and the devolved
institutions on Brexit, seriously. So it stands to
reason then that if there is no Northern Irish assembly, and
there is no Northern Irish executive for much of the time,
before the March timetable that she has set before invoking
Article 50, that she'll be unable to properly consult, to
fully discuss and to find agreement on the complex issues
during this time period. In these circumstances, will the
Prime Minister postpone invoking Article 50? Will she persona
article 50?
Or will she just plow on regardless?
It's about ensuring as he as he says, We want to ensure that we
do here that views from all parts of the United Kingdom
that's why we have established the JMC European committees
specifically to take the views and the JMC plenary, which is
also obviously meeting more frequently than previously. And
I'm clear that first of all, we want to try to ensure that
within this period of seven days, we can find a resolution
to the political situation in Northern Ireland, so that we can
continue to see the assembly government continuing. But I'm
also clear that in the discussions that we have, it
will be possible. I mean, it is still the case that actually
ministers are in place. And that obviously there are executives
in place that we are still able to take the views of the
Northern Ireland people.
Alright, so explain to me exactly what's going on the way
I lost the way we left it. I thought we were going to find
out from the courts if Parliament had to have a say in
the triggering of article 50. What exactly that we learned.
Now this is no this is a completely different
complication. The Irish government, which has not been
reported by any of the news media here, for some unknown
reason, collapsed. There's no Irish government. No northern
cabinet fell out Northern Ireland had done a shared power
thing. So they would have their own little parliament with a
first deputy minister, and then the first minister and a deputy
minister. Everyone's quit. Ah, they bailed out because of this
ash for cash scandal, which I think is the reason that they've
nobody wants to talk about this because this was an
environmental idea called ash for cash part of something
called RHI, which was the reuse a reusable heating initiative, I
believe,
are we back to the Backpage story you say as forecasts. Ash
lash for cash? Gotcha, gotcha.
It turned out that the greenies the the, you know, the global
warmists in Ireland 2012 set up the system to get people to stop
using coal, horrible coal. And so they came up with this
incentive plan. Oh, it's a global warming thing. Yeah. Oh,
God. And so they came up with this incentive plan to get
people to use pelletized wood.
Hey, that's really good, though. pelletize when you can use to
run your car.
Yeah, I guess. Yeah. And I don't know how you do it, but I guess
it's possible. Now this would kill I first have a bitch about
these would cause Horowitz bought one of these things and
it kind of bugs me. I was shocked by it. Because I've seen
these these are barbecues that use this pelletized wood you can
buy at Costco has and once in a while some guys will come in
there and their sellers pelletized wood barbecue thing.
Why would you just like buy some charcoal or some real wood.
Throw it in there. Now I want these pellets. Now pellets are
in the Pacific Northwest. I'm very familiar with this because
there's a bunch of furnaces and other items you can buy that use
these pellets. You buy a sack of these pellets. They're pretty
cheap. And it's like some sort of little pieces of wood that
have been turned in.
Are they green? Are they friendly for the environment?
Are they recycled?
Well, they're supposed to burn at a better efficiency so
they're much better for the environment. And but I see them
as like they're like miniature little miniature those news logs
you can buy and burn in the fireplace.
I bought a couple of those for Tina she is a fireplace at her
apartment. Yeah. And I, this was Christmas and the only place
that I could buy anything was Whole Foods. And I go in and I
get some logs. They're made for very expensive. They're made
from recycled coffee grounds. I know.
And one of the things Presto Luxus. As an aside, presto logs
I was when I was working as an inspector of the Chevron
refinery. There's different layers, I think I've told the
story in the show before there's different layers of you know,
you get your aromatics will come off the distillation tank,
there's all these distillation tower. There's all these
different products that come off of that process that goes on in
the refineries, all these different processes. And when
you're done and through with when you pretty much gotten
everything you could out of a gallon of oil. There's this
goop.
Ah, that famous golf
bottoms. And bottoms is this like, there's nothing they can
do with it. But ah, no, there is something they can do with it is
horrible goo. They use it to make these Presto logs. That's
what sticks. First, you get a bunch of sawdust, and you
dropped his goo in there, which is probably the most unhealthy
stuff to breed. It's got all the heavy metals, everything about
it is got to be bad. And but that's what these Prestel lugs
are made from which you saw dust and mixed with this crap. So
this is and I'm always thinking that these wood pellets have an
element of that because if you look at these little wood
pellets or like little miniature Presto logs, they're very small,
little pieces. And but to get like a shine to them, which
makes which What the What's the shine from it's got to be a
chemical.
So and we were against this because it's it's dumb.
I think it's dumb. Yeah. So anyway, so the Irish decided
this one deputy ministers are the ministers, she's decided
that we're going to have this this program. And it turns out
that incentives were such that the that was only for farmers
and industry. And they determined as whistleblowers
came in, nobody paid any attention. I'm saying these
farmers are using this to heat their barns or barns are now
being heated, which is stupid on a farm. But they, it turns out,
the more that they use more pellets they use, the more money
they can make on these rebates. For every every dollar they
spent on these pellets, they get a buck 60 back. Ah, so this
became this huge scandal in Ireland that has brought down
the government.
Oh, I didn't know this at all. This is very interesting.
And so the government, there's no government there now and the
British don't know what to do because they have to be involved
in the Brexit and all the risks. Of course, they can't just do so
they're going to have a kind of a quick election to try to put
some people in but this could take months. And but the whole
thing is because of that some do gooder. Oh, global warming, that
burning coal, we can have that as don't burn coal, this burn
these pellets, which obviously some pellet makers making tons
of money. And it's just a fiasco, none of its being
covered. And I think the reason has not been covered because
it's another example of you know, the do gooders that are
screwing up the world.
story of our lives. do gooders, hey, I want to I want to get us
into the donation segment, but I got a clip, which, in context of
our value for value, which we started about six, seven years,
about seven, eight years. No, but five years after five or
six, seven years after this statement was made, and you
know, our concept of how the internet should work and how
media will work and in this case, it's relating more to the
music business, but I think you'll enjoy this and and for
this I want to go can you get in the Time Machine?
Yeah, hang on. There we go.
9099 Welcome. Hey, John. Hey, man. Hey, dude. 99 is still
alive is beautiful. You know else is alive. A David Bowie. A
David Bowie is from the future. And we listen to him now from
1999 The internet
is now carries the flag of being subversive and possibly
rebellious and chaotic, nihilistic and oh, yes, it is.
Isn't it? Forget about the microbes. By
the way, he's talking with Jeremy Paxman who is like what
is this internet thing is 1999. So you remember like, what is
the Internet is a
calendar,
Microsoft element. The monopolies do not have a
monopoly. Maybe on programs,
what do you like about the fact do what you like about it is the
fact that anyone can say anything, or do any,
from my study from where I am because of the by virtue of the
fact that I am a pop singer and writer. I really, I really like
I embrace the idea that there's a new demystification process
going on between the artist and the audience. Because the
vocabulary of rock is too well known is is a currency that is
not. It's not devoid of meaning anymore, but is certainly only a
conveyor of information. It's not a conveyor of rebellion. And
the Internet has taken on that, as I say. And so I find that a
terribly exciting area. So from my standpoint, being an artist,
I like to see what the new construction is between artists
and audience. There is a breakdown. There's personified,
I think, by the rave culture the last few years, where the
audience is at least as important as whoever is playing
at the road. It's almost like the artist is to accompany the
audience and what the audience is doing. And that feeling is
very much permeating music and permeating the internet. But
what
is it specifically about the internet? Anybody can say
anything? And it all adds up to what I mean, it seems to me,
there's no, there's nothing cohesive about it in the way
that there was something cohesive about the
youth. I love how this guy is thinking like, what an old
fashioned douchebag. But this is what the dilution in music.
Oh, absolutely. And because I think that we, at the time, up
until at least the mid 70s, really felt that we were still
living under the, in the guise of a single an absolute,
creative society where there were known truths and known
lies. And there was no kind of duplicity, or pluralism, about
the things that we believed him that started to break down
rapidly in the 70s. And the idea of duality in the way that we
live in, there are always 2345 sides to every question that the
singularity disappeared. And that I believe, has produced
such a medium as the internet, which absolutely establishes and
shows us that we are living in total fragmentation. I don't
think we've even seen the tip of the iceberg. I think the
potential of what the internet is going to do to society, both
good and bad, is unimaginable. I think we're actually on the cusp
of something exhilarating and terrifying.
It's just a tool, though, isn't it?
It's not. Now it's an alien life form,
that it is simply a different delivery system. And yeah,
you're arguing about something more profound.
Oh, yeah, I'm talking about that. There's the actual
context. And the state of content is going to be so
different to anything that we can really envisage at the
moment where the interplay between the user and the
provider will be so in simpatico it's going to it's going to
crush our ideas of what mediums are all about. Yeah, yes.
You know, where he got all those thoughts right. From the grave.
Check TV.
Oh, really? Yeah,
he's a bit when he was in Britain. He has a place in or a
did have a place in Bermuda. And Tech TV was available there. And
he watched it his religious watch your vault material,
what does it mean? simpatico mean?
It means the same as simpatico I think
Well, the reason well first of all, let's go back to let's go
back happened to get back yes and get back. I hate time
travel. Oh god, it makes me hurts makes me nauseous. He was
so spot on though, that and you can hear the legacy media,
mainstream media, the old guy going it's just a tool. It's
just a different delivery mechanism. We we saw this like
that. We saw this with K ball. It's like, what's the big deal?
And now you when you hear this? It makes so much sense to me. I
would say I'm not quite sure if the universe gave us these ideas
or overtime, but I think we've been riding the crest of the
wave with our value for value profit proposition. And and I
think Bo is absolutely right. And the people who do not
innovate music, business, television, news, business,
printed news business. You don't innovate, you're gonna die. It's
just it's slow motion. And they're all thinking it's just
another delivery mechanism.
Yeah, well, I can see where you come from. Well, you could think
that right is a delivery mechanism.
It is a delivery mechanism. But the wood bowl he said, and of
course vo He is God what you take when you know what is
happening between the audience's and the what do you call them?
The the artists are produced. I mean, this is why our supporters
of this program are called producers for this very reason
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excited about that stuff. He likes to work There's something,
there's something going on by now I'm flagging it now flagging
it now. It must have been five years ago at this point, we
talked about the huge Leviathan field gas natural gas field,
which is claimed predominantly by the Israel. It's in the
Mediterranean. And it is Jordan claims a little bit of it. And,
of course, we've had Nobel energy who owns the contract,
which was expertly negotiated by their consultant, William
Jefferson Clinton. So everyone's all in and this thing is
starting to ramp up. Now, it's been a couple of years. And the
idea of almost any gas play, is to get the gas to the number one
customer in the world, which is Europe. And while we're doing
that, try and cut off all of Russia's about, say, pipelines,
make sure whatever you do, F Russia take our gas. Now we like
it's Well, it's true. So now
they want but the price is better with the Russian stuff.
Yes.
Now the problem is that the pipelines will be partially
underwater. And Noble Energy has always planned to get this into
Europe through Cyprus, through Cyprus, and then off into
Greece, and then we can go off into into other parts of the EU.
Cyprus is in play right now. very underreported
talks in Geneva on the reunification of Cyprus have
reached a crucial point, Greece has suggested Turkey has a 28.2%
share of the island. While the Turkish delegation is pushing
for 29.2%, the UN envoy to Cyprus said there was still work
to do. But I did that discussions to resolve the 42
year division are on track and many contentious issues have
been resolved. The aim of the talks is to establish a two
state federation with both sides sharing power. The Greek Turkish
and British foreign ministers are expected to join discussions
in the Swiss city on Thursday talks between the two sides on
the internal issue of politics finished tonight with the
exchange of marks for the first time in over a decade.
Now this is a big deal. I don't know about reunification, I
could not find out exactly why that one extra percent makes a
difference for Turkey. But I can bet it has something to do with
not allowing a pipeline to come through or some other maybe to
have it come through go to Turkey. I mean, Turkey is the
number one partner right now with Russia. For all of the new
pipelines that are going to be going into Europe. This is in
play. And there's what 30,000 Turkish troops already in
Cyprus, we could see a civil war breakout.
Well, there's been borderline civil war breaking out in Cyprus
for decades, yes,
but now it's about real money about the gas pipelines. I think
we're going to see a lot of crazy crap coming down.
We'll let the shooting commence.
We'll be on top of it for you. I put in the show notes, a number
of images, you can find it under the Cypress heading. And it
shows how these pipelines will run at fascinating stuff to see
how this is playing out. And the Brits Of course, I'm not
involved are involved not just for any reason. They have
interest in in oil and gas. But Turkey with going from 28.9 to
29.9. There's something about that, that I haven't figured
out. Maybe one of our listeners or producers will have an idea
about it. But I see trouble ahead for Cyprus. Remember when
they met when they they locked down all the banks? Russian
Russian money, they
stole the money. Yeah,
with a bail in.
Yeah, that's an old trick could happen anywhere. It's an oldie
but a goodie. So while you're discussing Russia, I might as
well do this because it brings up a kind of a theme of our
show. This is Chris Matthews. And this is a clip as a Chris
Matthews and with Chris Coons was one of the Democrat
senators. And Matthews kind of asked the question. You'll see
here it but the question about Russia because he's kind of
befuddled himself. Like I think most of the public is
over the goods for the neocon certainly both of those
gentlemen, why is Russia such a focus of our foreign policy
right now? Why is it almost the exclusive domain of debate?
What's it about Russia?
Because they carried out a cyber attack on our election, because
they've been carrying out aggression against Ukraine and
threatening our NATO allies in Europe, undermining our Western
European allies and have engaged in I think also war crimes in
Syria. So it's a fairly assertive aggressive Russia
under Vladimir Putin.
Well, Trump clearly sides with Tillerson and against you. He
thinks there's a hope For some kind of alliance with Putin,
what do you think?
And alliances I think would be overstating it what Mr.
Tillerson said today, and I would agree with this point was
that Russia is our adversary. But there are certain areas
where we could be partners, nuclear Non Proliferation, and
fighting against terrorism, working to improve some of our
relations with the rest of the world. I think we were going to
face a very difficult menu for President elect Trump. He's got
problems from North Korea, to the South China Sea from global
warming to the real challenges containing Iran. And I don't
think there's going to be a lot of bandwidth for them
to focus. Well, last question, we were able to get along with
Stalin in World War Two, he basically carried the load of
the war on the Eastern Front and fighting the Nazis. We were able
to get along with Khrushchev on the Limited Test Ban Treaty with
nuclear weapons testing. But Kennedy, were able to get along
with Brezhnev in terms of salt and the rest of it. Should we
always be trying to get along with the Russians? To some
extent,
of course, Chris, it is possible that we could reach some
agreements that would make our world more safe, and would
reduce conflict, but that cannot include turning a blind eye to
their annexation of Crimea, or their crimes in Syria. Okay,
thank you so much. Chris Coons on the Foreign Relations
Committee.
What do you leave out?
snowed in?
I see, I'm afraid to say it. I'm not. I'm not saying
authority. This whole thing started in 2013. This hatred of
Russia and making Russia the bad guy. And that started in 2013.
When Snowden they refused to give up Snowden because we have
no extradition treaty with the Russians, probably for a lot of
reasons. But if we don't have the extradition treaty, we can't
demand somebody to be extradited. Right. Why don't we
just stop beating around the bush and say, okay, Snowden is
very stuck there. And that's that we don't have to, like turn
this into this never ending battle with all this bull crap.
Right. And that his laundry list, there was all bull crap.
Oh, this and that. I mean, nobody likes to mention that
Newland, and the Americans are the ones that caused that
problem in the Ukraine resulted. Yeah. Maybe ever gets met never
gets.
Let's just Let's remind everybody we remember.
Yes, we do. You remember episode.
I caught a bit from Judge Napolitano as speaking of
pardons. And this is regarding the FBI, Clinton email records
released they did was that Friday before Christmas as well,
I think it was I don't remember. Yeah. They had another Yeah, it
was a lot of the there was a lot of releases. Well, it's
explained here.
300 pages of documents released by we don't know who within the
FBI which had possession of them, right, turning them over
to to the public to see. And they suggest clearly that there
are a lot of misunderstandings about what was held by Mrs.
Clinton, what was communicated by her and to her of a highly
sensitive nature.
The highly sensitive nature was 301 pages of emails, which Mrs.
Clinton sent on a regular basis to a non government person. We
have reason to believe that that was Sid Blumenthal, with whom
she emailed on a on a daily and regular basis several times a
day. But what we now know what Donald Trump feared and argued
during the campaign, and what rogue FBI agents who profoundly
disagreed with Director Comey. His decision to recommend
against indictment was true that the information Mrs. Clinton
regularly sent to her emailer was hacked by foreign
intelligence agencies of countries unfriendly to us and
friendly to us. And Sources tell Fox News. Those were Russia,
China, unfriendly, Israel friendly, this is the smoking
gun, if ever there was one this it ramps up the case for her
prosecution, to the point where ironically, it may also ramp up
the case for President Obama to Aisha her pardon, and to take
this off of Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions desks. But if he
doesn't do that, the pressure on the Attorney General from the
FBI agents who conducted the investigation, who probably
posted this stuff last night during the Giants Packers game
will be very difficult for him to resist.
And I'm thinking Obama is going to let it ride. I bet he loves
that. Yeah, he'll you know, now I'm not going to pardon you.
Enjoy session. Well,
you know, this is this is a very interesting pickle. Yeah.
Because yeah, they could pardon her and there's a way of parting
her for stuff that she's going to be indicted for later.
There's there's something called a special kind of a pardon.
Yeah, we know you're a criminal and they're gonna party in
advance. He won't do that in a million years. So they'd have to
indict her before, which means in the next week, because the 20
of this coming up as next Friday is right. Yes. So he has to
pardon her before Friday of next week. I just don't see it
happening. And I think that's why everyone's Well, we're not
going to do anything. I'm Trump made a big deal about saying
they're not going to do anything. Oh, Hillary's fine.
She just loves you. Like I'm not gonna
write. So the setup is FBI demands it. That's the setup.
That's the setup. I don't think Comey is going to do that. But
we'll see. But I you know, I
have my doubts about Comey said he might do
it after the after the inauguration.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Possibly after the inauguration.
That's my
point. Yeah, no, I said, yeah, no, sorry.
But yeah, call me is, but he's not clean. I don't see him as a
clean guy. The he has, he has shit on his hands from HSBC.
He's definitely deeply involved. But he's an FBI. His
whole thing was how he is protected. He also is good,
politically savvy. He knows not even he can't do that now before
the 20 suspicious because that, you know, two or three months he
can do it saying well, we've been working on and working on
and working on it. We had to be very thorough because a public
figure and all the rest of it, he can, you know, three, six
months from now it's even better. Yeah. But once it
happens have Trump's second partner that's for sure. Vaughn
Schmied phone.
I ended the segment Josh. Tech News,
where the Hornies always never do what we do, because we're
much better than them. I have two tech news segments. I don't
think you have anything for us today, but I will play my music.
Alright, here's number one. It's actually oops.
Norway is the first country in the world to begin switching off
its FM radio network. Right
that Norway has become the first country to switch off its radio
FM network Norway
has become the first country in the world to begin switching off
its FM radio network. The moment the scheme applies only to
Northern Nordland. But the whole country will be digital by the
end of the year. The government says Dav radio will save money
allow more broadcasters and sound better. But that is only
if people can hear it. It will pick it up on my new products
will be introduced onto the market over the next few months.
They'll have tactile buttons and a text to speech function may
display at the last stop. Critics say that while FM
programs in mountainous Norway need many transmitters and is
costly reception at the launch was poor and especially elderly
people particularly dependent on the radio with first generation
Dav sets will have to upgrade to dA b plus devices. 2.3 million
car owners will have no dA b in their vehicles either.
Now, there's dA b stuff which are followed for a long time
because UK has dA b and the Netherlands has dA b It's pretty
much been a failure.
We have a version of it. We've had it for years called HD
Radio, right? But it's a failed it's been all over the place. I
can get HD radio, I don't get it. In HD Radio has been and I
write but AC radio, HD Radio still is broadcast on the
regular FM transmitters. This is dA b, which requires a different
transmitter different I think different frequencies. And it's
all digital. You need new receivers.
I'm going to look into that I'm not sure that was the same was
broadcast on the same system. This is FM. All I know is that
nobody uses it.
Right. And but a huge flop. I think this is it the government
is forcing people into a digital only mode which they control.
Whereas you know, just get on the interwebs it's not a good
thing. That's not a good thing. And Finland should fight against
this. I don't know why they let that happen is very and it
doesn't make
me famous government control. If you think about it, that's
that's my point. It's there's no improvement.
No, there's no improve. There's no reason for it. No, it's
completely completely I don't see that the cost savings either
that they keep talking about
Well, I think it'll cost only more and everyone has to buy new
receivers and yeah, I don't know it's a scam. It's not it'd be
what they do is they want all those frequencies for other
things. You know, they're going to Well,
they did that with digital TV. And they got away with it. Yeah.
And they gotta remember when they went through the process,
they had these little cards, you get a free card, you get a
discount. I mean, there's all these deals, you have to buy a
little converter to turn your regular broadcasting that
digital bought a couple of them because they were cheap. And
then everything it seemed like an improvement. I think it is.
But that's a distinct improvement. HD radio is not
right.
Then I have a report from the Consumer Electronics Show one
report one report only that I picked up off of C in it and I'm
very happy with this report because I'm feeling a big
payday.
It's actually coming from the verge just say we're checking
out a new Smart Home robot named curry bakery, a company called
Mayfield robotics, which is a Bosch startup designed curry
with personality in mind. So the first thing you'll probably
notice is curries, eyes and demeanor. Similarly to the
Amazon Echo or Google Home Korean can play music on command
over Bluetooth, but there's no voice control just yet. The key
difference between the Echo and the Google Home and curry is
that curry is on wheels. So yes, in theory, you could have a
robot Bluetooth speaker following you around curry moves
around your house rely on a depth sensor to figure out where
obstacles are navigate around them and make sure it's in the
right room. One of the ideas behind Korea is that when you're
not at home, you can use a kind of like a surveillance robot. It
has a camera behind his eyes and can watch the live feed through
its companion app. But it technically dies after two hours
of constant news. So you probably won't get a complete
live feed of the entire day. Curry knows when its battery's
running low though, so it will automatically return to its dock
so that it's pretty much always charged. Honestly, during my
demo with curry. I thought the robot was super cute. Its eyes
are expressive and it's adorable. You can't help but
want to play with it. But with that said curry really didn't
live up to its expectations.
Now, why these people would not want curry.com is beyond me.
They want it they need to buy that off of me.
I think so I think it's worth it. What do you think?
Well, what I think is first of all, I think that everyone needs
to be promoting this promoted you should sell
your domain yesterday really didn't live up to its
expectations.
There you go. That's I love that curry really didn't live up to
its expectations. Yes,
that's me. That's all good.
So yeah, I think it would be what what do you think domain
name? I've had it for 20 years. Yeah. 20
beside the point, but I You're smart. But when you bought that
you should have bought art.com
Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Stop. No, no, they spell
it ko you are I? Oh, no, no. Dammit. All right, closing out
the segment. No money line, and the phone should be made out of
Bakelite. That's right. That's your tech news for today. And I
get no money. No money. Not too bad.
Do you think it would have been worse? I would say I've always
said a million dollars. That's where That's where yeah, that's
that's. Well, I wouldn't sell it. If it's not a million bucks.
I wouldn't sell it.
No, I should be a buyer would say I think between two and
five, two and 5 million. Yeah.
Dream on No way.
Today's market I believe that would be the case.
Well, you are here by my agent. If you can sell it. I'll give
you 20% 20 I tell if I had 25% There you go. You sell it to two
to 5 million. You sell it for 5 million. A million bucks. I
think you should go for it.
Yeah, well, vibe is a tough one. But it's doable. I think that's
what it's worth. Alright,
let's wrap this up, Johnny Boy. Well, that's k.
Let's wrap it up by keeping the hooking up with the report that
was buried by the Trump news. The Fort Lauderdale shooter he
forgot all about him for some reason. Let's play this clip.
Well, we now know the identities so four of the five people who
were shot to death at the airport in Fort Lauderdale on
Friday. They ranged in age from 57 to 84. All were either on
their way to or returning from a cruise. Five others remain in
the hospital. The gunman made his first court appearance today
he was assigned a public defender and denied bail. David
bagno is in Fort Lauderdale
with a steely stare has Stevan Santiago was escorted into
federal court, feet shackled, handcuffed and shaking at times.
He did not explain his motive and said he only had five to $10
in his bank account. This video obtained by TMZ appears to show
Santiago firing randomly at Fort Lauderdale International Airport
on Friday. Prosecutor say Santiago shot 11 people killing
five and when he ran out of ammunition he dropped his weapon
and surrendered. A law enforcement source tell CBS News
Santiago use this nine millimeter handgun in the
shooting. It is the same gun the Iraq War veteran had with him
when he went to an FBI office in Anchorage, Alaska last November,
claiming his mind was being controlled by US intelligence.
He said he was being forced to watch ISIS videos. Santiago was
committed for four days to be mentally evaluated. One month
later, he petitioned to get the gun back from Anchorage Police
without a judge's order to commit him. Police say they had
no choice but to return it. Karen Lafleur is the US Attorney
for the District of Alaska.
There is a federal law with regard to having a gun by
somebody who is mentally ill, but the law requires that the
person be quote, adjudicated mentally ill, this is not
somebody that would have been prohibited, based on the
information that they had. I think that law enforcement acted
within the laws that that they have.
David Weinstein is a former federal prosecutor was enough
done with this guy.
My gut tells me that they didn't do quite enough they should have
dug a little bit deeper to find out exactly what was going on
inside his head when he gave them the gun and then when he
asked for it back
in court today, Santiago said he spent the last few years in
Anchorage, Alaska working as a security guard. Scott,
prosecutors say he confessed to planning this attack and
apparently chose Fort Lauderdale at random. quite random.
Really? Yeah.
That's a new piece of information. They still want to
talk about the Muslim connection, but that so we'll
figure that right. Well, we
know we know the top FBI anti terrorism Muslim guy was on the
case. So there's obviously something going on.
Yeah. Really fleshed this out properly. But there you have it.
All right, buddy. Very nice. Good show. Thank you, John.
Thank you all producers. From coast to coast, ocean to ocean
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with what he knows.
What can he know that the intelligence communities don't
know. But we do know that the intelligence communities don't
know we do know that the intelligence communities don't
know that we do know that he was going to
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like we're having a potluck and we like fed people chili and
we're like enjoying each other's company. Hey,
let's rock against anger. I agree with that with anger. I
was shocked. Really? Yes. Really?
When you went on Twitter all these people moaning and
groaning about Clinton they're trolls all
paid and as we know trolls are paid but they could be quasi
government troll so they could be paid trolls that aren't with
the government but I don't know if this
implies the to me at least passive Yeah. Okay, awesome
collection.
When it comes to espionage, we better be careful about when it
comes to can we better be ready to throw rocks do you agree with
that? That's a good metaphor.
It's a disaster. I think what you want to do is you want to
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Well, Michael, you raise great questions and frankly, welcome
to my wardrobe. Welcome to my
I think he wanted to say my New World Order buddy came out
wardrobe wardrobe. In my ward,
my old world in which an awful lot of things For the dude.
Well, Michael, you raised great questions and frankly, welcome
to my world wardrobe. Would you like to try my bolo, my
wardrobe, which an awful lot of the things we know, to share.
I think he wanted to say my new world order, but he came up
wardrobe wardrobe, because in my wardrobe
it's my own world in which an awful lot of things I want to
get Welcome to my world
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