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Another fantastic Plato says,
Plato is a genius. I know why No, they were never big coke
users back there and the Greek Greek Roman from an era
You're putting me on? Yeah, I suppose I finally figured out
why you know South
American products and you know, it was that took a while before
we get that a clue.
This whole until Plato says thing is really good for you.
And it actually, I think what it does for you is it gives you the
idea that you to have done some show prep.
I get tons of show prep, I worked here my reaction to that
is an ISO that I collected just for you. I just want
you to know I practice that joke a couple times before.
Yeah, it's yeah, it seemed to last year played a laugh. Yeah,
hold on, hold on, hold
on. Now, of course, when I do that, I get punished. Can't hide
my console and go away. There we go. I'm sorry. i So ah, I got it
where did that come from? That gem
that I saw came from a one of these YouTubers that staring at
the camera, a black guy who says I've only got one thing to say
for all you who didn't support my man Trump. Oh boy. Here we
go. And then he goes into that laugh.
Okay, well, let's see. John, I have a lot. A lot of laughs a
keeper. Yeah, the laugh is very good. Um, it'll it'll go into
the Isobe. Bin. For sure. Okay. Where do we started? Man?
There's so there was a lot happening in Europe to lots of
stuff happening. So I don't know if you want to. If there's you
had any particular thoughts for today?
Well, I mean, we there's all kinds of directions we can go.
We can start with something light and move on. I mean, I've
got a little a little Lindsey Graham, followed by John McCain.
Always good. Yeah, those two guys came out and one of those
sessions where there's nobody in, you know, see seated now
were
they doing their their five minutes each on the podium. Are
they speaking? No, no,
they were both doing it the long as you want open speech, their
seats or wherever I wasn't upfront. And it was about trying
to get up, you'll get a little hint of it. I can't play all
this stuff. I can't stand it. But just play it. So I made him
as short as I could just to get you a feeling for this. Lindsey
Graham, what about terrorists?
We're not talking about car wrecks. We're not talking about
slip and falls, we're talking about something that nobody
really thought of when they created the exception to foreign
immunity. And that is an act of terror. So here's what Senator
McCain and I come out. We want 911 families and other people
who may be victims of state sponsored terrorism, the ability
to take their perpetrator to court. What we don't want is our
government, or any other government sued for a
discretionary planning function, a exercise of sovereignty in the
normal course of business.
He's talking there about drones, he goes on and on this hour hour
of him yakking and then they throw it throws it over to his
buddy McCain, which is standing there, a little bit of him
doesn't explain sorry,
mean. That cannot mean that we would endorse legislation that
would hold the government of a nation responsible for an act
that was committed from that country. We know today as we
speak, in Iraq. In Mosul, there are weapons factories, there are
chemical weapons to attack different places in the world.
Wait a minute, there's an attack from Mosul and lives are lost.
And of course, the government of Iraq doesn't know anything about
it. Is the government of Morocco would ask my friend now liable
held responsible for for the actions of terrorists within
their country.
No, you just blame your chemical weapons on Assad?
Well, a couple of things that besides that little tidbit about
the weapons being manufactured in Mosul is something factory
there and that now they're going to attack from mozal. This is a
scam these two guys have put together because they're so deep
in bed with the arms business and Saudi Arabia. They're trying
to get Saudi Arabia off the hook for that bill that was just
passed 99 to one. Yeah, but the little right, or they got this
little little thing. They want to add a little amendment that
says, Well, you know, if these if you can't prove it's a really
bad. They're just adding a barrier to the 911 victims. They
now have to if this got passed, it's still being discussed, I
suppose is yesterday. Yeah. That means the 911 victim would have
to prove that the government was involved in you know, directly
it's, it's bull crap. These guys are doing
incredible. Yeah, they're anti American. Pretty much. Yeah.
Yeah. That's, that's horrible. Yeah.
Horrible, horrible. Well,
speaking of Iraq and Syria and Mosul and the other things
happening in the Middle East, we've always been at war with
Eurasia. Here's the latest from Turkey.
Turkey's president has announced the start of a military
operation in Syria, aimed at ousting Bashar Al Assad Restrepo
arrogant said that, in ending the alleged atrocities by the
country's leader is Turkey's only goal.
We have no interest in Syrian land. We are there to stop state
terror and to end the rule of cruel Assad
on Turkey has already intervened in Syria. In August, it focused
on border areas naming ISIL and Kurdish insurgents as its main
target. rally to
study means that we are determined to save Turkey from
the terror of the PKK by working hand in hand with our security
forces, brothers in the region, finishing the organization
called Dinesh in Syria, as well as disabling it in our country
has an obligation to our people. Operation Euphrates Shield is
the first step to the completion of that duty.
I love how it's called. So first of all, the fact that Turkey is
now in there is bad news for everybody. This is we do not
need another actor in on the theater in that particular
theater.
And then so now I had to stop us for a second. I have a
jackhammer,
I can tell ya, you hear it? Yeah.
jackhammer. This is this is right outside the window.
President Trump is already fixing your infrastructure.
Isn't that great, John?
Hello. Yeah, there he goes. Again. I don't know how long
this jet cameras gonna go on. But you're gonna have to and
where is doable? It sounds like you're already down. me down.
Like you're in
a war zone. Alright, so I love that. It's called you for
Operation Euphrates Shield? Really? That's something that
Turks come up with? I don't think so. Isn't that one of our
wars, of course, is one of ours. We come up with all that stuff.
It's very disappointing. What's happening over there? Of course,
we had a an attack a terrorist attack, which I'm sorry, we
can't we're not calling it a terrorist attack. I don't know.
It's, yeah, it was a guy who came in from Somalia. And then
he drove his car into people, which as we know, is exactly
what was predicted that ISIS is going to be looking for weak
minded people. And of course, you know, we'll hear that this
guy was on some form of drugs.
So yeah, there'll be that desk gotta come out. Here's a little
backstory,
backstory on this Ohio State attacker.
He was interviewed by the school newspaper, and we showed the
picture of this individual Abdul Razak Ali artown. The 18 year
old Somali permanent resident of the United States. There you see
it. He says in this article that appeared not that long ago, I
just transferred for Columbus State Community College, we had
prayer rooms, like actual rooms, where we could go to pray
because we Muslims have to pray five times a day. Then he goes
on and says this, he says, I wanted to pray in the open. But
I was kind of scared with everything going on in the
media. I'm a Muslim. It's not what the media portrays me to
be. If if people look at me, a Muslim praying, I don't know
what they're going to think what's going to happen, but I
don't blame them. That's what he said earlier in this article in
August. Not that that not that long ago in the student
newspaper at Ohio State University. So clearly, he was
very sensitive to being a Muslim and going out and praying in the
open.
Right, and that you still in the same situation there he's
sensitive, saying, don't judge me that I'm a terrorist, because
I want to bring the opener because I'm a Muslim, and then
months later, he gets a knife in a car and he attacks people,
like find out a lot of motive there. But that's very chilling
to be able to see the side by side
Gee, what could the motive be? Hmm. So this is odd. No one's
calling it a terrorist attack. It's very it'd be at best a lone
wolf and I picked up this clip from
us and both taro do what's up? Can you do that? I mean you
either make loan rules terrorist attacks and item Yeah, you don't
all of a sudden have lone wolf non terrorist attacks by a
Muslim that would be as it would seems like it would be a
terrorist as he's supposedly screaming.
Ottawa Ali, Ali Ali Akbar, there's a
sec could be bull crap.
There was a there's a security expert national security
professional in irregular warfare, which includes
counterinsurgency and counterterrorism. And he is also
professor at the Institute of World Politics this guy is
what's his name? Sebastian Gorka. Have you heard of this
guy? I don't think I've ever seen him. No, he's probably new.
But no, he's not. He's been around for a while. Now. I mean,
new to the new to the scene. I think so. So he's, he consults
for us. Us ca uso USS Oh comes Joint Special Operations. rec
instructor, the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center for
School in Fort Bragg FBIs counterterror. So he's the guy
is seems real. What's interesting is Wikipedia page.
I've never seen this. There's this article is currently
protected from editing until December 23 2016.
I've never seen that.
Oh, it's an editing dispute. But they I guess they lock it down.
That's interesting. Anyway, he was on Fox. And here's what he
had to say about lone wolves. And I liked it. I've
repeated again and again and again. The phrase lone wolf is
designed to make Americans stupid. It is designed to make
you disconnect the dots. There is no such thing as a lone wolf.
Whether it's the Tsarnaev brothers in Boston, whether it's
Major Nidal Hasan, whether it's the individual who recently
detonated devices in New York and New Jersey, or this attack,
potentially, these are all individuals linked together, how
are they linked? They are linked by the connective tissue of
jihadi ideology. These aren't people who sit in a basement, go
online, and suddenly become Jihad ease that has never
happened. They are all part of the global conspiracy that I
like to call the global jihadi movement. Ah, there you go.
Wow, that's a new one
that makes total sense that is that it's and all these words
are always carefully crafted, such as comprehensive
immigration, immigration reform, what does that even mean? means
that you're a Democrat. Yeah, that's exactly what it means.
Oh, man. So I found actually, people are totally understood
what I was trying to do with my last request for getting
professional journalists who appear on podcast and let their
guard down and talk about what they really feel and who they
really are. Which is great. And you know, I got to tell you, I'm
very, very happy that people immediately understood this. It
does a couple of things. It also promotes podcasting, which is
nice.
Oh, there's a great podcast promotion on the last episode of
CBS is bull. The whole show is about podcasting. Oh, really?
Yeah. But it was about some girl who was a douchebag podcaster
doing a news show, done it overproduced. They had you know,
they, you know, this not just any old podcast is obviously a
podcast with a staff of 50. But she had put it had poisoned the
jury pool for this murder that took place and she they had to
deconstruct her and her podcast of 25 million listeners by the
way,
what a podcast is this
that cracked me up? Oh, how many she got 25 million listeners.
This woman per day was like, he was like a seer. It was the
serial kind of a podcast is great. And she did it herself
and she was a little arrogant little Janine Garoppolo
character and she was like knife but nevertheless stuff and she
ended up going to jail because she wouldn't turn over sources.
I got very interest I gotta hear this I need to hear this thing.
That's cool.
I get it the last episode of bull on CBS if you go to cbs.com
they have episodes for viewing but you get a I didn't get any
clips. There's one decent clip about there's some negative
comment made about podcasting in general. I would wanted to clip
that but I never did.
So I got let me see then and thank you to all the producers
who of course are on top of this and say the timestamps you know,
it's really it's have actually cut some clips not everything's
good. Shorter clips are important people. It's
interesting how people think that four minute clips work that
we play four minute clips. That pretty much doesn't happen.
I don't think we've ever played it. Yeah. So we have we break
them up, we break it into like three minute clips and No, no,
no optional minute.
Yeah, but you know, I'm saying,
I know you'd like to play the John Kerry four minute clip if
you could
about it. I gave up on that. I promise you, I'm not gonna do
that anymore. No, this is from the NPR politics podcast. And
the NPR journalists are now discussing amongst themselves.
Now remember, this is not the radio. This is the podcast so
they can tell me
can you stop before you start that clip? I want to I just want
to comment on this because you've done all these things.
And I have, I think there is there. Because I actually think
you're onto something. And I've always felt this way when I clip
stuff from Europe, where there's an American Europe, talking
about stuff that he wouldn't say over here, right, as though it's
like, you know, it's like when you go to your boss into the
league and legalities have changed. When you go on the
regular radio, you have a sense that people are a lot of people
are listening at the moment, right? When you're on the
podcast, and you're just in somebody's basement or garage or
in even in even in a studio, you get the feeling that is it's
just I don't know what it is. But there's a different feeling
about it. That doesn't give you the sense that you're going to
give you a I think it gives you some sort of freedom.
Exactly. The freedom comes from the idea that there's, you know,
you can say much more. And I don't think there's any
oversight. I mean, there may be some podcast master, but let me
tell you, when you're the general manager of a radio
station, if you're listening to the radio station all day and
then you hear something you don't like what you do like it
happens more often. You don't you what do you do you hotline,
you hotline, the studio and log on. Whenever you talk about
that, again, don't ever do dead stop. Yeah, that's how the
program director or General Manager works. But a podcast.
They do tons of podcast, no one has time to listen to all of
them. I'm sure nobody is. I don't know if they have audience
listening to them. But here is a little piece. This was like a 40
minute podcast, it picked out a minute about that this is
regarding Trump's tweet about illegal votes, which we may or
may not want to talk about. But if you hadn't heard Trump sent
out a tweet saying, you know, they would have won the the
popular vote if there weren't millions of illegals who have
been voting. And Trump so far has not proven it to my
knowledge, but no one has disproven it either. And I know
it's that I think it's very possible that there are some I
don't know if it's millions, but here was their take on the tweet
and just listen to
it. So the big story this past couple days has been Donald
Trump's tweet storm Sunday morning. He claimed that
millions of people voted illegally in this election and
that without them, he would have won the popular vote. At this
point, Hillary Clinton leads in the popular vote by more than 2
million votes. The exact tweet that Trump sent among many
others was quote, in addition to winning the Electoral College in
a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions
of people who voted illegally
factcheck falls can we just that? Yes.
You're that this is my favorite. This is what they're doing now.
Quick, fact check false.
No fact check false. Fact. Check. Check, check. Check,
check false back, check false back check.
Back check false.
Didn't you say that? You don't know that? How can you say
that's false? Ball vague. Oh, hey, good commentary. factcheck
false.
Also, you say you know in some ways he's not even. He's only
half serious when he says it so why would you even fact check
that it's like me, it's like, does a woman who choppa cocaine
with foot toe the line is
the people who voted illegally?
Fact Check false. Can we just that? Yes.
Definitely. Like there
is I can just see them walking around the NPR offices. Hey,
fact checks off. Fact Check follows fact checks. Oh, geez.
Literally no evidence, certainly no evidence that millions of
people
literally no evidence, certainly no have
voted illegally.
Yeah. How do you weigh in? That sentence work fact check false.
No, it doesn't work. Because just presuming that it's crap.
No one's done any investigation
point Hillary Clinton leads in the popular vote by more than 2
million votes. The exact tweet that Trump sent among many
others.
They bring up the fact that California counts for that
entire 2 million.
Would that be NPR if they did? Oh, no, you're right. False.
In addition to winning the Electoral College in a
landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions
of people who voted illegally
factcheck false can we guess that?
Yes, definitely. Like there is little
maybe had something that's in the in their office, HR manual
or something?
Are they saying this constantly or half the time you're putting
it in?
I'm putting it in half the time, but I'm sure this is what they
say all over the place. Yeah. factcheck file
really no evidence, certainly no evidence that millions of people
voted illegally. Yeah.
And even. My question is like, what is Trump's rationale and
tweeting a thing like this, he won, I don't
think he'd liked the fact that his electoral college win was
not confirmed or was not driven by an overwhelming popular vote
when most of the time that Electoral College and the
popular vote coincide, but we've had now five times when they
haven't. And, obviously, he did not want to be one of them. And
it is a little embarrassing to talk about your landslide and
your mandate and your great, great message from the people
when more people voted against you than voted for you.
You see, that's how that's how they think. They don't want to
actually go out and try and find anything, no, just factcheck
false. And he's just nuts.
You know, did did anybody bother to like maybe called Kellyanne
Conway and ask him, you know, or anybody at the candidate. And so
why did he say this? Is it because he's, he's irked that he
didn't win the popular vote. Well, Scott
Adams wrote something insightful about this. He said that Trump
had forced the mainstream media to go beyond the sale with his
tweet, and I didn't quite understand what he was saying.
But what he might well what he means is Trump didn't say, there
were illegal votes. He said, There were millions. And the
conversation immediately went to not whether there were any
illegal, illegal aliens voting. But how many were voting? That I
think is very interesting.
Excellent job of that. Right. I when I when I saw the tweet, I
just thought it was a throwaway. I'm not even sure he tweets much
anymore. I'm not convinced of it. Well,
okay, since you bring that up, Oh, hold on a second. There's
all kinds of issues with Trump tweeting, and the mainstream
media are beside themselves with with anger about this. And you
know, they keep saying, well, they're gonna have to take his
Twitter away. I love hearing that it who's going to take the
President's anything away, is who's they? Who thought he was
going to do all that? Here is Angela. No, Andrea Mitchell,
with Oh, guy, old friend of the show, former Secretary of
Defense William Cohen. He's the guy that once recommended in the
70s when he was Secretary of Defense that we get to
earthquake machines and other other types of weaponry, we've
read that messed up that you'll never forget. No, I won't. And
now here is an Andrea and William Cohen. Talking about
traditional media and Trump's tweeting, I think
we have to be less concerned with tweets of chasing every one
as if it's some sort of revealed wisdom is going out. So racist
questions about the media? Why are you chasing it? Why when a
story comes out with a tweet, which intuitively, you know, is
not of significance, and yet you spend an entire day analyzing
it. So I think that the media has a responsibility to take
tweets that are serious seriously, and those that are
irrelevant. Don't spend time chasing, why
is it why is it our job? And how can we assess what does he mean
seriously on Twitter? And what does he not mean? He's using
social media? There are no news conferences, we have no access
to him.
The problem is that the media has become the traditional media
has become almost irrelevant, because he has, he is going so
filter you and just putting out a tweet. So now you're left
guessing. What does he mean?
I like how Andrew Mitchell just agreed. Yeah, just
agree. Yeah, we're useless.
Totally No, good.
We're useless.
Yeah. CNN, they had a whole panel that you know, everyone's
in the studio to talk about this. Angela. i We love Angela
Ray. She always provides fabulous clips for us. Angela is
of course the former Black Caucus, congressional assistant,
I believe. And man, she is just not having the president
tweeting. It may not
be unusual, but it still doesn't make it constitutional. And
that's exactly
right. And I think that we have to start talking about this is
this is our incoming commander in chief, this man should
understand constitutional law. He is fine for him to say this.
I think this was about the flag burning. And so of course this
night,
he made some comments there and it should be it should be. Take
his citizenship. The country exam in jail. Yeah, no,
that's that's a throwaway tweet. You know, that's something
anyone because but no, they're taking it seriously. He doesn't
understand the Constitution and constitutional law. Because of
course, President Obama wasn't cancelled to his new lawyer.
I'm for him to say the Supreme Court ruled in Texas versus
Johnson and I don't agree with that. But I think it is curious.
It's not what's in the 140 characters. It is the mindset
behind what's in the 140 characters on Twitter the reason
we talk about this Alice over and over again is because it
actually is legitimately scary to many of us who feel like we I
know Anderson fates
actually legitimately scary to many of us. And you know what I
believe
talk about this Alice over and over again is because it
actually is legitimately scary to many of us who feel like we I
know Anderson feelings, I'm sorry, but we,
I guess you're not allowed to talk about your feelings anymore
on CNN. So she just claimed it
legitimately scary to many of us who feel like we I know Anderson
feelings, I'm sorry, that there must
be something like a memo memo that says, hey, we're no longer
talking about our feelings. It's only facts fact check fall.
But we feel like we potentially elected a dictator, someone who
thinks he does not have to be accountable to constitutional
law. He doesn't have to be accountable to the legislative
branch. She thinks he could just come in and do some crazy when I
first heard it,
this is really what she believes. He can do whatever he
wants, he doesn't have to listen to anybody come in and do some
crazy stuff. He's a dictator.
When I first heard that he was tweeting about something that
was on this broadcast a number of tweets. Again, factually
incorrect tweets last night. In fact, I kept thinking, doesn't
he have like a briefing book on ISIS to be reading last night at
10 o'clock, or? I love this.
This? We are what is happening here is the entire image of what
the president of America actually does, is, it's being
destroyed. And people believe that, you know, they sit there I
mean, the President said in the middle of the night poring over
his intelligence reports,
because he's off the world and get blow jobs at his desk. There
you go. That's a little more like the president of Merck nine
o'clock. Wait, those briefers? You
know that there's been reports that he's not, but I mean,
again, even the very there is a obligors a huge amount of
information that for him to be absorbing now and thinking about
and the fact that he's watching shows, I appreciate he's
watching the show. Box, it doesn't really help. But yeah,
but what did he do?
That was true
during the campaign? I mean, he made I get a burst of pain. Even
then, he should have probably been boning up on what's going
on.
And so I should be boning up on what's going on because the
President needs to bone up a bit. It is concerning
that he continues to do this. But in terms of the substance of
what he said, I think the revoking the citizenship part is
very concerning to be fair to him,
Democrats. No, no, no, she actually says something very
good here. I have to say fair to
him. Democrats have supportive supportive this and and and even
though it is constitutionally protected, there have been
repeated attempts to have constitutional amendment so if
he supports that, that's actually I know, support it. I
disagree with it, but it's actually not really out of the
mainstream.
Oh, that was an interesting moment of clarity.
Did they play one of the Hillary clip where she's all like
burning and all the rest of No, buddy else played that clip? Oh,
I don't know if anyone's watching, John. I really don't
want that.
You know, you are watching CNN. That's that's
that's it. Last night. We were watching Dolly Parton's
Christmas special. We I love Dolly Parton. boning up. I've
been boning up me. I love Dolly Parton. But man the commercials.
He was just one pharmaceutical after another. Dave. I mean,
these are the people who watch that last night besides Tina and
I, they're dead. They didn't even put on you know, Viagra or
boner pill ads. It was just all you got this. You got that?
You'd be a messed up. You got arthritis, you got diarrhea. You
got irritable bowel syndrome, like, Oh, wow. Irritable Bowel
Syndrome. Yeah.
The Restless Restless Leg Syndrome. That was my old time.
I want to do I want to take a quick break from what you're up
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I think it's just but it's not any old lung cancer.
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non small cell lung, so the small cell lung cancer. That's
my mom had just like goodbye. You have a chance if you if you
have the non small cell lung cancer. Yes. So these are the
not necessarily written up to die written off the die in six
months, people. But what is interesting is this topic of
lung cancer came up on my favorite show my beat. View,
I went to Cuba last April. And it's interesting. I mean, they
have 100% literacy rate there. So everybody gets a free
education. Everybody has top of the line medical care. So
everyone's healthy. Good. Yeah. Well, so as a matter of fact,
there's one thing that's interesting to me, because
there's a vaccine that's been developed in Cuba to to treat
lung cancer.
vaccines prevent, they don't treat but it's
to treat lung cancer. And it's showing very promising results.
So if Trump says we're going to cut ties with Russia completely,
our doctors will not be able to work.
Oh, doctors won't be able to work with them will die of lung
cancer. Trump did it again.
Wow. She doesn't know how the system works. No, she doesn't.
Got a valuable lung cancer vaccine. It's good. Now there's
no
no doctors can't work with them. Then. I have more of the from
the view later. You want to hear some crazy convoluted crap. But
yes,
I unfortunately do want to be grown. Well,
here is. Now this was very interesting. And you know, we
have new reporters in the white in the White House press pool
this, this young lady, I'd never seen her before she's sitting
front row. And there's a couple of young kids, maybe it's just
on Tuesdays or Mondays or I don't know, question came up the
White House. Right. Yeah. White House. Yeah. With Josh owners,
spokes whole extraordinaire. The again, the question comes up,
hey, you know, so the President Trump, elect Trump, whatever he
said, she said, Hey, did this deal with carrier and so you
know, this has been a thing he's been talking about in his
campaign, and they're going to save 1000 jobs by somehow
incentivizing carrier, not our decision. disincentivizing
carrier not to go to Mexico with one of their factories or
multiple factories. So this comes up and you know, and of
course, the question is, how do you guys feel about it? You
know, what's, what's your vibe? His answer is less. My mouth
ajar.
late yesterday, carrier carrier announced a deal with President
Elect Donald Trump to keep close to 1000 jobs at an air
conditioner plant in Indianapolis. I guess all the
all of the details of the bill haven't been announced. But I
was wondering, does the White House have any thoughts on kind
of the strategy that has been employed to maybe lean on a
private company to get them to keep jobs in the US? Has that a
strategy?
That by the way, I love how she sets that question up? Is that a
strategy to lean on companies like the like the mob? You
better be better targeted really kind of braschi
them to keep jobs in the US. Is that a strategy that the White
House approves? That thinks is a good thing to do? I guess I just
want to talk.
Well, you know, obviously we haven't seen the the the details
of the announcement from the company but you know, obviously,
are the early indications are that this is good news.
What will what will you say, John? It's good news. It's good
news. Do you think he can actually continue and close out
the compliment?
Yeah, yeah, of course he could. I shouldn't really nice guy.
Obviously we'd welcome that good news. I know that the President
Elect has indicated that he deserves credit for for that
announcement. And I guess what I would observe is that if he is
successful in doing that 804 more times, then he will meet
the record of manufacturing jobs that were created in the United
States. While President Obama was in office, there were
805,000 manufacturing jobs that weren't just protected, or
saved.
Do you remember that? Remember, I
don't remember, but this guy's a douche.
Oh, no, it gets much worse. But this was after the after the
election after we had the big bailout the stimulus. And the
administration kept this running metric of how many jobs saved or
created there were. You remember that? Yeah, I
do remember that, of course,
so saved or created. And now he's, he's messing it all up.
He's like, created, save, just listen to this.
Manufacturing jobs that weren't just protected or saved, but
actually created while President Obama was oh, well, because
Obama has set a high standard and precedent led to Trump can
meet that standard if this carrier deal is completed in the
way that he expects that it will be. And if he does that 804 more
times, then he will match the standard established. At least
when it comes to manufacturing jobs. The one difference would
be that the President Elect is talking about protecting jobs.
And the metric I'm using is actually creating jobs, to
protecting jobs, there are more than a million jobs in the
industrial Midwest, that were saved, or created when President
Obama made the decision to rescue the American auto
industry. And the long term benefits of that fateful
decision that was not initially popular, has yielded a
substantial benefit for the entire country, but certainly
for the industrial Midwest.
Alright, so he's saying that the President didn't just protect
but created 1000s 1000s of millions of jobs. He created us
Trump's votes have done that already. Fact Check false. Well,
what's he implying?
Well, he's implying that Trump right, okay, well, if you do
that 800 more times, and you're kind of close to our guy.
However, I did want to point out that we were on top of this,
like crazy mofos. And I pulled out a clip that we played
Episode 321, July 2011, the president himself in the very
same briefing room, talking about how many jobs were saved,
and or created
our biggest priority as an administration is getting the
economy back on track, and putting people back to work.
Now, without re litigating in the past, I am absolutely
convinced and the vast majority of economy, economists are
convinced they
don't you love that the vast amount of economy. This is like
the whole climate change thing. We didn't even
know that 7.9% Yeah, we didn't even notice that
litigating in the past. I am absolutely convinced. And the
vast majority of economy, economists are convinced that
the steps we took in the Recovery Act, saved millions of
people their jobs, or created a whole bunch of jobs a
whole bunch,
you remember that? Yeah, I do owe a bunch of jobs. So shut up.
Josh Earnest, that's just It's patently false. Check false.
Okay, false.
Now, wait,
I gotta continue. And then we'll be done. While we're on this,
you know what you just said? 97%. I like that a lot.
Yeah, I just want to tell you before you veer off a carrier, I
do have a carrier clip on what's gonna finish that roll. Let's
roll. Let's roll. But here's the reason for this clip is because
it's a kind of a thing I want to ask you at the end. All right.
So how did you? How'd the deal get done? And is it unusual for
a president elect to do something like this?
It is unusual. How many times have you seen people running for
office, whether it's president, whether it's governor, senator,
whatever it might be, and they say, we're going to keep your
jobs here. And in the end, they really don't keep the jobs
there. We don't know the specific details, or at least we
don't know many of them regarding why the Trump
administration was able to convince carrier to keep that
plan, Indiana. But if you read between the lines, it's pretty
clear that United Technologies, the parent of carrier, which has
about $6.5 billion in federal contracts, mostly with the
defense defense department, I didn't want to start off the new
administration start off a relationship on the wrong foot.
So that's part of this a statement issued today by
Carrier, you know, they don't get into details but they issue
some platitudes in terms of how they're able to see things eye
to eye with the Trump administration. The incoming
Trump pence administration has emphasized to us that commitment
its commitment to support the business community and create an
improved more competitive US business climate. The incentives
offered by the state are an important consideration those
instead And as it's been reported by a couple of outlets
to be about $700,000, but that's a drop in the bucket to a
company like United Technologies. The bottom line is
this guy's you do not want to see a new company and a new
administration starting and having an attitude about a
particular company if you're the CEO of United Technologies, and
that's why I think they ultimately said, Let's make a
deal to keep this plant open tation than protecting its own
volunteers.
Sorry, I was supposed to ask them I'm sorry.
Well, wasn't as savage as Now this seems to me. You have these
giant corporations that own stuff like carrier United
Technologies. Just make nothing but business with the
government. Right? You could strong arm all of them
easily. Hey, do you guys want any contracts?
The carrier company, do Obama administration who's supposed to
be labor Democrat? They could have easily done the same thing.
But they didn't even bother. They're actually happy. They're
leaving? Yeah. It's like one I hate to say, but one party the
Democrats are. So into the globalization is better, just
get them out of Indiana. But the people that worked for him, move
them to Mexico, and then we'll be good to go because it's all
part of a bigger scheme.
Unbelievable.
I was very distressed. I mean, it shows I heard no technology
at all. It was a no brainer. Just go to the CEO and make a
call. This is Donald Trump. Hey, we want you to keep carrier. You
know you like those contracts, don't you? In fact, it is kind
of like the mafia when they describe it that way. You like
those contracts? Those big government contracts? I don't
see any reason you're moving the carrier plant. Yeah. Why would
you do that? Oh, yeah, you're right. Let me look into it.
Yeah.
We'll take care of that right away. Yeah. Anyone could have
done that. We could have done that. That anyone could do that
deal. Yeah. One to bring up the 97% for a very specific reason.
And that is actually going back in time here for a moment. If
you look on the YouTubes and you want to find the sanctimoniously
slug smug slug is also good sanctimoniously slug. That's it.
It's a new one. I like it. John Oliver. Here's what he did this
whole thing about climate change, and how 97% of
scientists believe in it. And it was with Bill Nye, the Science
Guy just wanted to play that short clip so we can refresh our
memory on his stance on the 97%
of the bytes on climate change should not be whether or not
it's it exists, it's what we should do about it. There is a
mountain of research on this topic. Global temperatures are
rising, heat waves are becoming more common sea surface
temperatures are also rising, glaciers are melting. And of
course, no Climate report is complete without the obligatory
photo of a polar bear balancing on a piece of ice. The only
accurate way, a survey of 1000s of scientific papers that took a
position on climate change found that 97% endorsed the position
that humans are causing global warming. What's interesting
is that he actually factually states that it was a survey of
1000s of scientists, and that 97% of them had put something in
there document that certainly not all scientists are all
climate scientists, but he's very clear. 97% is in it's a
mountain of evidence. Are you insane? 97% people 97% You can't
that's the number you can't overcome that number. Stop
fooling yourself until he came up with this little ditty the
other day.
98% of the people that took the courses 98% approve the courses
they thought they were terrific.
Okay, first, there is something instantly fishy about 98% The
only things that have that level of unanimous approval are
dictators, Pixar movies and Neapolitan ice cream. Yeah, it's
got chocolate for the chocoholics, vanilla for the
borings and strawberry for the perverts. Exactly, thank you,
John Oliver sanctimoniously small, sanctimonious
sanctimoniously smoke all right. There you go.
The sanctimoniously smug debunked once again. Your
numbers game John Oliver.
That's a very good one. That's that's a borderline Clip of the
Day. I'll take a border liner yo, yo. All right. Glad you
liked it.
We were done with this topic, and I moved to something else,
please. Well, let's go to this the CENTCOM Senate I had a
report.
Is this a report from guy in? Yeah, gotta check. Yes, he's
been. We've been tweeting. Have you seen it? Check. I say hello,
guy. And that's right. Guyana on RT star reporter who now tweets
the best podcast in the universe. You don't have us all
she does she tweet back. Yeah. And one of our producers
tweeted, hey, you know, great job on on the CENTCOM, this
exact topic that you're about to bring up with these with these
reports from her. And she said, yeah, no thanks. And of course,
I tweeted her back. I said, how you you have even have your own
jingle on the best podcast and universe. And that's when she
blocked me. Blocked I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. That
was possible now, by the way, but But before we get into your
for this quickly, did you hear that Twitter has now verified
the Muslim Brotherhood's account?
And they still haven't verified you? The famous Adam curry from
the MTV days.
That's right. I am unverified. I'm just a low life loser.
But they verified the Muslim brother Muslim Brotherhood
is verified. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
I'm gonna have to look into this. I'm not taking this at
face value. Well, fine. Because I'm not saying that because I
find it incredibly hard to believe that they would do such
a thing. It's just encouraging terrorism.
Yeah, I'll send you the link. Multiple report on this.
Okay, this CENTCOM report on this is very interesting that
this is about the attack where the US accidentally shot up a
bunch of Syrian Army even though there's not even supposed to be
in the country. The Americans aren't even supposed to be in
the country. And they're, but they shot up a bunch of it
because of this possibility. So they shut this up. When you get
to the basics of this report, especially in part two. It's
like, who are we kidding? And, and I should probably well, I'll
go back to another little angle on this, which is that both the
United States and the Economist magazine is already done this
United States in Great Britain, Great Britain has had hearings.
hearings on Russia today, accusing the giving slanted
reports the only reason we get so much material from them. It's
because of reports like this
our top story the US Air Force says coalition planes
accidentally targeted the Syrian army in the city of dare resort
on strike would have continued if not for a call from the
Russian military. That's the results of an investigation into
the incident which happened in September,
the strikes were conducted under a good faith belief that the
strikes were targeting ISIL in accordance with the law of armed
conflict.
The US CENTCOM investigators said he found there was no
intent to target Syrian forces who said the US military
believed they were targeting ISIL is that it was an
unintentional regrettable error. The investigator also came to
the conclusion that the US forces have not violated laws of
armed conflict from the waist and con presented this
prosecution seems very unlikely. We've seen this happen before
when the Pentagon investigates a strike that went terribly wrong,
like the bombing of the hospital include these Afghanistan,
decides it was unintentional and therefore not a crime. The US
airstrikes on September 17 In Dara Zor, Syria killed over 60
members of the Syrian military, it reportedly allowed ISIL to
make advances in the area, they then had to be pushed back.
Other details came up during the CENTCOM investigators briefing
the US and come investigators said that the strikes would have
lasted longer and would have killed more people. Had there
been no hotline contact between Russia and the US on Syria. That
hotline was established as part of efforts to prevent an
accidental clash between Russian and American forces.
No call back to the beginning of the show. Here's how a hotline
works. When the General Manager Program Director, here's
something that they don't like immediately, they can call the
studio, the red light lights up, then they tell you what to do or
not to do immediate action. That's a hotline,
right? Yeah. Well, let's listen to part two.
Here's what I found striking in the CENTCOM investigators
report, there was an officially designated point of contact for
the hotline. When Russia called to say that the coalition was
hitting the wrong people. That hotline point of contact on the
US side was unavailable for 27 minutes. This is module a
hotline between two major military powers established to
avoid accidents, you would think every second would count. What
the CENTCOM investigation also revealed was that the US
military called Russia in advance to notify of airstrikes
in the area, but gave the wrong location the investigators said
nine kilometers south of bears soar. According to the CENTCOM,
this was the first time the US had notified Russia of its
airstrikes in Syria in advance. But as we now find out the wrong
location was given in that notification. Many errors were
apparently made that night on September 11. And throughout the
days leading up to the stripes.
Russians, for some time now has been asking the United States to
give pre planned coordinates of where they play Under the
strike, and unfortunately, the United States has turned them
down each time. In this case they gave them they gave the
wrong coordinates. And I'm a little concerned as to where
they got the coordinate from. Because even though even though
the report remains classified, I would say this, I would suspect,
and again, this is just my opinion, that the classified
portion of that report basically was telling them that the the
information came from one, someone from one of the various
groups the United States has been supporting, and took it at
face value. And one of the one of those groups that clearly has
it out against the government and may have purposely given
those coordinates.
However, it seems despite the miscommunication and lethal
consequences, working with Russia is not on the Pentagon's
mind. The United States consider cooperating with Russia to
validate targets on the ground in the future.
We have no plans at this point to cooperate with Russia in that
way.
Wow, boy. So why did they do it once? I don't know they got the
hotline this so they one time they give Russia the wrong
coordinate said we're gonna go bomb this place. But they've
never done it before. We're after this. The whole thing is
very suspicious.
Yeah, and the whole idea and from what I understood from
Guidons tweet is that they the hotline was picked up, but
nobody was able to connect it to CENTCOM for 27 minutes. So if
someone didn't pick up the phone, but they just couldn't
get any further. Well, along with this, there's a bill that
passed the House of Representatives, and will now go
to the Senate. And we and we've heard parts of this before. I
had no idea that passed the House kind of stealthy hr 5732.
The Act may be cited as the C's are Caesar Syria civilian
protection act of 2016, the CSC P. And the I'll just give me the
findings. So you, this is what's inside. This is a this is a law
that was passed our past our House of Representatives,
Congress finds the following over 14 million Syrians who
become refugees or internally displaced persons over the last
five years. Number two, the Syrian Observatory for Human
Rights has reported that since 2012, over 60,000 Syrians,
including children have died in Syrian prisons. The Syrian
Observatory for Human Rights is one guy in an apartment in
London. We've talked about this guy many times is the none of
them. Oh, yeah. That bullcrap. Yeah, he's the number number two
reason that Congress is coming up with this bill. That's their,
that's their fact. And then the third one, in July 2014, the
Committee on Foreign Affairs of the House of Representatives
heard testimony from a former Syrian military photographer,
alias Caesar, who fled Syria and smuggled out 1000s of photos of
tortured bodies. Remember this? We talked about it? Yeah, I
think we thought
we'd discuss in great detail. And it was pretty, I was like,
Well,
you know, we don't know the guy's name. We have to keep it
secret. You know, he testifies in the dark. That is a bag over
his head. Yeah, that's the number three reason. And then in
June 16 2015, hearing of the Committee on Foreign Affairs of
the House of Representatives, United States permanent
representatives, United Nations, Samantha Power testified there
are alarming and grave reports that the Assad regime has been
turning chlorine into a chemical weapon. And on June 16 2015,
Secretary of State John Kerry stated that he was absolutely
certain the Assad regime had used chlorine against his
people, which has been debunked. It is a lie.
It's been debunked and that other attack was best been
debunked by by a million D bunkers. Yes.
So this is a very large bill, and it's going to free up a lot
of resources and money ultimately to in knock Assad out
of power. That's what they all want. They want him gone.
McCain, Graham, those guys keeping my eye on this bill, and
I hope Jen briny does too. She'll help us was in Senator
house is going to the Senate now. They just passed the house
was the House bill. Okay. Yeah, just passed the House.
This looks like another one of the things that keeps her out of
service for a long time. And he's long bologna films that are
just so long. Nobody can read them. Yeah. Well, that's a
shame.
Yeah, well, good. Good report from guy in there. That's pretty
good. But you know, mainstream media def. Sorry, please
remember she's she works for state sponsored television. So
you've got to take it with with the BBC
wouldn't have those guys BBC. Yes. For CBS News. That's one
that's not state sponsored. It isn't the most CIA broadcasting
system that doesn't In this state you want to some fake
news. Well before we do let's do this since we're on the RT thing
I want to get a couple of things out of the way please please but
we do true fake fake news. There is a let's play the RT that just
in the UK this is the RT they're having hearings now because RT
is such a massive bread. Yeah, the mana democracy in
the UK. They're having hearings about our tea. Yes. Oh my
goodness.
Here's one of the hearings. Our tea hearings. Britain's
relationship with Russia has been the focus of a Westminster
foreign affairs committee second, that comes just over a
week after a report was presented to the UK Parliament
which called for public figures with pro Russian views to be
singled out and to be discredited. Among those who
spoke to the panel were representatives from RT on
Russia's Sputnik News Agency. Very grateful for you coming.
What would you describe as your values and your founding
principles?
Our role is to tell the news as we see it, and often to give
space to overlook stories and alternative perspectives.
I know that I and others who have appeared on RT. We have the
other day I was called by an American neocon think tank, a
Trojan horse for the Kremlin, for a Putin apologist? Because I
did appear on your show. I see that as as an attack on freedom
of speech. What what interference, if any, would you
get from Moscow or Moscow politicians? That may or may
not.
I can't believe that having hearings about this. We're kind
of Oh, yeah,
yeah. And meanwhile, it is important to have this report,
you find out that the EU has passed a rule. Do you
recall? Okay, yeah. You we went through the whole report? Is
that what this is about?
No, no, there's something else. Okay.
A resolution was also adopted by the EU Parliament last week, and
it puts Russia and ISIL. On this same level.
This is exactly the report that I read for us.
Okay, I'm sorry,
terms of perceived informational threats. But we spoke to Peter
trust scouts who was present at Tuesday's meeting about the
inquiry.
I know that this report, they've been they've been working on for
almost a year, and they've been gathering in evidence from
various experts. And now our idea is to examine the UK
Russian relations. I didn't agree with the resolution of the
European Parliament, I think that it's, it's very harmful to
attack different branches of media just because you disagree
with them. I think one of the one of the beauties of the West,
if you like is that we have a journalism of media, people can
watch whichever media they like, and they can judge whether to
watch one media or or another. And I don't think it's really
for the European Parliament or anyone else to say that we don't
like the media content of one particular television channel or
radio channel, and therefore it should be banned or discouraged.
Right. We discussed this. And part of what the EU's resolution
is, is to fund journalists, so they're good. Today, we talked
about the licensing, so they do the right thing. Well, it's I
think this now does fit into fake news.
No, actually, what you No, no, no, no, it doesn't. You cut me
off. Sorry. This is a four parter.
Oh, I'm sorry, I only saw two.
And the reason that this a four part is because of what you said
during the discussion of England and having a hearing on our tea.
And then of course, we had the other discussion, which was in
the EU, why is this all going on? So I caught Robert Gates, on
the morning show. on CBS, where he was there for about 15
minutes. He was director of FBI and CIA and Defense Department
and he was all over the place. And he ran Facebook for a while.
This is no you're thinking of Muller. Oh, I'm sorry, wrong
guy. You met Robert Gates is the square headed white haired CIA
guy, right. And he's been in work for eight different
presidents. And they brought him on because he is the guy who
wrote the book about behind the scenes in the early years of the
Obama administration where he condemned Biden, if you
remember, saying he was a bonehead, and everything he said
was wrong and everything I do remember? Yeah, sure. This was
this was the book that poisoned Biden and so far is running for
president. Okay. So he's a Hillary CIA stooge. From what I
can tell. And this kind of proves it. Here he is. I got a
two parter here. This is him. First on this is gates walks
back from minute
one. With the election behind us we continue our series issues
that matter to explore the challenges facing our country
this morning. We are look At national security with former
Defense Secretary Robert Gates,
in September, Gates voiced serious concerns about Donald
Trump and a Wall Street Journal opinion piece. He wrote, at
least on national security, I believe Mr. Trump is beyond
repair. Gates added he is unqualified and unfit to be
commander in chief. Secretary Gates joins us now for his first
interview since the election. Welcome. Thank you. So how do
you see him now since we have seen an effort looked at him as
president elect? You know, I wrote that op ed, based on the
statements that have been made in the campaign about our
allies, about NATO about nuclear weapons in Japan and Korea,
about China, Russia, about our troops about our generals, and I
must say, I think that based on what I've seen since the
election on these issues, I'm hoping I was wrong. And you
know, people that were talking to him as well. And I know a lot
of the people that he's talking to, I've talked to a lot of
them. And I've encouraged them to serve. I it's it's critical
for us now that he is president elect, for him to be successful
as president.
Yeah. So he walks back because he's embarrassed. And crow
there, of course. And so this can this discussion goes on and
on and on, then it goes into a little bit about Russia. And I'm
thinking well, that we have the Russian that we're investigating
RT these guys are bad actors. We have bad news about them. Here.
We have it in the EU. What might be going on here. Let's listen
to this.
We sent a message that we can be pushed around by Russia. I think
that I think that what has happened in Syria, what has
happened in Ukraine, and and the reactions, I think, I think
outside observers would say that the Russians have us on our
backfoot in terms of what to do about their behavior and their
activities in these areas. What does that mean, the
Russians have us on their on our backfoot at a disadvantage
that that they have seized the initiative, for example, in
Syria. And so if there's a outside power that's calling the
shots, if you will, in Syria right now, it's Russia, not us.
And they're pushing in Europe as well pushing in Europe. You
know, the stories about trying to bring about a coup in
Montenegro. The activities pushing against the Baltic
states, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, and signed the German
intelligence chief said this morning, that he's concerned and
may try to tamper with German elections. Well, and then
there's the whole internet cyber problem affecting our election.
And perhaps the Brexit vote.
You do more than just Plato says from show prep I rescind.
They're going to blame the Vexin Brexit vote on the Russians. Oh,
it gets
better. Now my follow up clip. This is beautiful. I think well,
we'll play the jingle a minute. This is another one of my Colin
presstitute podcast. That's my new name presstitute podcast.
NPR and NPR has Craig Timberg of The Washington Post on the
program. He is one of the authors of the article that
kicked it all off about Russia's fake news. And, in hindsight,
the European Union the parliament's resolution against
RT and Sputnik seems conveniently coordinated with
all this, doesn't it? Absolutely. I'm really enjoying
the coordination. Now this guy who was a senior Washington Post
journalist, he really just he the things that come out of his
mouth
describe what this propaganda campaign consisted of.
So there's a there's legions of botnets and pulled on
legions. legions.
I guess, Legion, do you know
how much a legion is? Now? I looked it up. Three to 6000 in a
garrison. So he's saying
Legion, the Legion legions within a garrison?
Yeah, I can give it to you. Exactly. Actually, I saved the
page. Legion, the definition from Old French the Roman legion
3000 to 6000 men. I see general I don't actually say if it's an
a garrison, but it's a legion is three to 6000 men. Okay. So that
seems like that will be a lot of Botnets if there's legions, but
there may be
it. That would mean a botnet itself consists of a million
computers. Yes. Yes. So legions of Botnets is not is
astronomical.
Yeah, that would be encompass The entire world
will describe what this propaganda campaign consisted
of.
So there's a, there's legions of botnets and paid human trolls
that collect information and tweet it to one another and
amplify it online. And that makes these stories that in many
cases are false or misleading, look much bigger than they are.
Now, this
is interesting. I have not heard this particular use of a botnet.
What he's saying, is that very much like algorithms in stock
trading, that these botnets are actually all of them have a
Twitter account and there amplifying messages by
retweeting. I have no.
So in other words, some by somebody has, you know, the I've
seen these fake accounts,
but but he's saying that you can find it because Sure, there's
fake accounts. And he's saying the botnets are really
amplifying
yes door seeing these fake accounts, I suppose the
amplifying anything, they get seven followers if that if that?
I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know if it works. I think maybe you can get
something to trend. But let's just listen to the story. He
goes, he goes off the rails
much bigger than they are and they're more likely to end up
trending on Google News RoundUp in your Facebook feed.
botnets, meaning networks of automated, fake people are what?
Well, they're
not fake people. They're essentially computer programs
that you can program are sort of tweet back and forth to each
other. What the researchers found was that there were these
1000s and 1000s of social media accounts. It just basically
amplified what one another saying and they did it
essentially, in a massive online course.
Why would Russia want to do this? Well, like I think we've
seen a lot
of evidence that the Russians had a stake in the election that
just passed. They've been mad at Hillary Clinton since the
protests in Russia in 2011, which we instigated
pretty sure we instigated out through the State Department
with NGOs.
Yeah, that's like when they clamp down on NGOs over there.
Yeah, protests in Russia,
which, by the way, is exactly what the European Union just
resolved to do. They're gonna do the same thing. We got to get
all the NGOs out or fund our own NGOs. It's so transparent.
Russians
had a stake in the election that just passed. They've been mad at
Hillary Clinton since the protests in Russia in 2011. They
clearly seem to have a fondness for Donald Trump. And probably
the most important reason is because we're a strategic
competitor with Russia. And so undermining our democracy and
our claims to having a clean democracy clearly, were
important goals to the Russians
was that animosity towards Hillary Clinton and fondness for
Donald Trump reflected in the kinds of stories that were being
promoted through these channels?
Yeah, the Hillary Clinton storylines about her being sick
or dying or a criminal about to be arrested. All that sort of
stuff got Wait, me, okay. Well,
I know, I know. I know. I would say false.
This stuff about her. So in other words, when we all
witnessed her pretty much pass out, that was fake news, having
to leave the event that she wanted to go to so badly, which
was the 911 Memorial, and then getting to her limo and then k a
movie of her passing out on the curb and dragging her ass into
the thing losing her shoe fake. All Fake, fake. That was fake,
fake. All fake news. Just fake. What was the other one? They
mentioned some other one in there. That was
well, there's a couple more coming up.
storylines about her being sick or dying, sick
or dying. Well, we're all dying. And sick. Yeah, she was
definitely sick or
a criminal about to be arrested.
Well on what was caught? What was that thing with Comey? The
guy's the head of the FBI. He's the one who brought this up to
the public,
fake news. General fake news. Okay, are you questioning The
Washington Post's on I don't think so.
All that sort of stuff got amplified stories about Donald
Trump being a candidate who could bring peace and settle
tensions with Russia also got amplified.
Crazy the amplified piece can you not do that Russia?
There's also lots of stuff that was just you know, tension
raising. There were reports of suppose it international
incidents, you know, a fake coup in Turkey. Ah, watch.
All that. News about the turkey thing was fake news.
Fake News, John. It's a fake Who
is this guy insane? He's a lunatic.
He's the one of the guys yes. Was this one of the guy he is
podcast do this to you. He's not thinking straight. And he has
definitely has no editor for the garbage coming out of his
piehole. But that's that really went fad too far
with incidents, you know, a fake coup in Turkey the prospect that
the US was going to attack another country, that sort of
stuff got echoed as well and part just to raise the
temperature of tensions during the election. Does the US
government have
tools to detect or prevent this from happening save or create
seems like minimal use to find out after the election that
this was all going on?
I think it's safe to assume that the US government does
absolutely have tools to monitor this. It's not clear that they
or anybody else have tools this Stop by though. And one of the
things we did
was doing it.
We invented it. We invented the internet, we invented
propaganda. We invented propaganda. Television, we
invented all of this. We should just be pissed off that they're
doing a better job. But
he else have tools to stop it. I
mean, how many times do you see someone say, oh, there was a
great video on The Voice of America? Yeah, no,
to stop it, though. And one of the things we deal with in the
story is here, Facebook and Google, have claimed that they
can really crack down on fake news, they're kind of got to get
off the sidelines on this issue. But it turns out, it's hard
because the news ecosystem is enormous ly complex. And it's
easily manipulated. And there's lots of reasons to manipulate
it. If you have a certain political point of view, you can
get a hearing in the internet that you couldn't get 20 or 30
years ago,
during the campaign, American intelligence agencies said
Russia was responsible for hacking the DNC emails. Now
there's this it sounds like there was a multipronged
intelligence and misinformation effort by Russia to impact the
US presidential election. Can we say whether it worked,
I don't think there's any way to know if he has vocal fry to by
the way. Whether it worked, I don't think there's any way to
know, it worked in the sense that it determined the outcome
of the election, though that thought alone, too, even though
we've been talking about it is kind of remarkable. Like there's
no way to run a parallel election and take these factors
out and see what happens. But let's remember, this was a very
close vote. It were just, you know, a few 10s of 1000s of
votes, and a few states ended up making the difference. So yeah,
I don't know if you believe that the kind of information that
crashes through all of our social media accounts affects
how we think and potentially we vote, I think you would conclude
that this kind of stuff doesn't matter.
No. Okay. Well, there you go. That's, that is the man who
launched the article about the fake news.
Know that guy's whole report was like fake news. This guy is the
expert.
And yeah, there's a couple more things that tie into this before
we take a break. One is a note that I received, then I'll have
a copy of it. This is a just open this up. And as the several
senators, I think it's seven of them. I have the it's in the
show notes. If you want a two to no agenda notes icon to the
President. Mr. President, we believe there's additional
information concerning the Russian Government and the US
election that should be declassified and released to the
public. We are conveying specifics through classified
channels. Thank you for your attention to this important man
or matter. Ron Wyden Jack Reed, Mark Warner, Barbara Mikulski,
Mazie, Hirono, Angus King and Martin Heinrich. So they have
something else they want to pop open and let everybody know
about it. I don't know what Yeah, but there's something
brewing. Yeah.
Good luck.
And the President did an interview with Rolling Stone.
Did you read this interview that he did with John winter? No. Oh,
this is a must read.
Well, we have to you have to know that winter of course is a
huge obat
No kidding. Goin Eiffel, just pass the torch for hagiography
of the year to yawn winner. And there's a lot of things in here.
And what was interesting is that the interview took place that
day, which was scheduled the day after the election when Trump
won. Actually, I have a
I have a case of Bowser was scheduled that day so they could
gloat over Hillary winning. In fact,
let me read from the article. He says here. The last time I
interviewed the President was in 20, fell 12 was a lazy afternoon
had gone over time on boo boo. Now, here it is. My final
interview with the President of the White House had been
scheduled for the day after the presidential election, I'd hoped
to look back on what he'd achieved over eight years, and
the issues that mattered the most to him and the readers of
Rolling Stone. Here is advice for Hillary and about the road
ahead. So he they were all in and that's a journalist I days
he's gonna talk about Hillary we don't know he didn't have
questions about Trump. I'm sure Hillary is gonna win. I want a
little bit more from this but go now to Laura Ingram was a
conservative talk show radio so it must have been fox that she's
on. And she highlights something from this interview this
president
for all of his his kind of no drama Obama comes out in a very
infantile manner, blames cable news and I'm surprised he didn't
mention talk radio my field because that's what he usually
does, without any sense of personal responsibility. So they
say Trump can be immature at times. What was that? And he
goes over to Europe and he says, Well, you know, I'm
actually very popular look at the polls like my policies are
actually very popular. You just got shellacked.
Now he got shellac. No, no, no.
My hand was been slammed.
So here is peace. Just a little excerpt about America still
being a progressive country, as if he's the president speaking,
I think that nothing is determined, but that the number
of people who have a strong belief and a fair just equal
inclusive America is the majority and is growing. And
part of the challenge, though, that we do have and this is
something that I've been chewing on for a while now is that
there's a cohort of working class white voters that voted
for me in sizable numbers, but that we've had trouble getting
to vote for Democrats in midterm elections. In this election,
they turned out in huge numbers for Trump. And I think that part
of it has to do with our inability, our failure to reach
those voters effectively.
Party be the hope and change thing. And yes, we can had
something to do with it. Because he didn't. Yes, we can. He did
not. But there was no change whatsoever, except in their
pockets. You can take that to the bank.
But we've had trouble getting to vote for either
way. Just one more complaint. He ran as an anti war candidate.
Oh, yeah. Has anybody figured out that maybe the American
public is a little sick and tired of war? And Hillary's
another war? KPRO what she's actually ran as a pro war
candidate.
Well, just so you know, part of the problem here is the
inability or failure says the president to reach those voters
effectively. Part of it is Fox News, and every bar and
restaurant in big chunks of the country.
I have never seen Fox News in any bar. ESP, or any restaurant
is always ESPN or somebody. CNN, ya know, or CNN like at the
airport scene, every airport has got CNN running, there's no Fox.
So he says, part of it is also Democrats not working at a
grassroots level being in there showing up making arguments that
part of the critique of the Democratic Party is accurate. We
spend a lot of time focused on international policy and
national policy and less time being on the ground. No, you can
be on the ground all you want. People are tired. They're tired
of words. All that's what he keeps saying throughout the
entire interview is well, you know, is it here? Because this
is not simply an economic issue. It's a cultural issue. And
communications issue. It is true that a lot of manufacturing has
left or transformed itself because of automation. Really,
really now he's
that white carrier was going down to Mexico because the
automatic shutdown there's so much better Mexican automation,
baby. Let me write that down. Mexican automation, those guys
don't mess around. I got those pens.
That the ink Joy pen. Yeah, they're pretty good. Like it's
pretty good.
But during the my presidency, we added manual, okay, blah, blah,
blah. And we just see if your leads, because pretty much what
he's doing what he keeps saying I mean, but just go to the end
here and give you the payoff when he says throughout the
whole article, that that's what he's going to be concentrating
on. When he leaves the White House. He is see
I'm sorry, somehow my markings run away. But anyway, what he
says is that he is going to be working on strategies for
progressives of have better communicating with the middle
class and working America. And what I find fascinating about
it, you really have to read the whole thing because it's really
woven in throughout his throughout his entire interview
here. And here it as well. The most important thing I'm focused
on now is how we create a common set of facts. Yes, we need a
common we need a minister Ministry of truthiness how we
create a common set of facts that sounds kind of abstract.
Another way of saying it is, how do we create a common story
about where we are? The biggest challenge I think we have right
now in terms of this divide is that the country receives
information from completely different sources. And it's
getting worse, the whole moonlights, wait for it. The
whole movement away from curated journalism to Facebook pages, in
which an article on climate change by Nobel Peace Prize
winning scientists looks pretty much as credible as an article
written by a guy in his underwear in a basement or
worse.
I don't know if it could get much worse or worse, worse. I
don't know if it can get much worse than that. Well, maybe the
400 pound guy,
or something written by the Koch brothers
said that yeah, it says it right there.
The Koch brothers are blogging away on the Facebook's people
are no longer talking to each other. They're just occupying
different spheres. And in an internet era where we still
value a fee free press and we don't want censorship of the
internet. That's a hard problem to solve. I think it's one that
requires those who are controlling these media to think
carefully about their responsibilities or licensing,
and whether there are ways to create better conversation. It
requires better civic education among our kids agree to that we
can sort through what's true and what's not. It's going to
require those of us who are interested in progressive causes
figuring out how do we attract more eyeballs and make it more
interesting and more entertaining and more
persuasive? Well, first of all, I would suggest you hire the
curry Devorah Consulting Group, because we can give you a couple
of pointers. And this is what he says he's going to be focusing
on. So all this noise about Trump TV network. But just as
being yourself and your copertura health, President
Obama is going to set up some kind of media initiative with no
common set
of media matters. I mean, that's to Hillary Clinton front
organization. Yeah, Media Matters, and which is just a
propaganda tool. And that's so it was you're gonna have another
version of that. I mean, you how many of those do we need?
Well, it'll be the official one. You see, the FIFA sanctioned by
President of muscle out of the Clintons under this flood of
these scams? Oh, they don't need me that Hillary Clinton does not
need media matters anymore. Maybe Obama can take it over.
And the Clintons are done. That done?
Yeah. Well, I would I would agree with that. Except Nixon
was done after he was kicked out of California and he lost the
governorship and that's true. That's true.
Well, with that, running a little behind, I'd like to thank
you for your courage and saying the morning to you John C. The C
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you better be safe than sorry to terrorize people. So after
Castro died, a lot of people were you know, people for people
against you know, the Cubans in Miami. We're celebrating. And as
we know, Justin Trudeau, the prime and this is special for
our can the Navy and listeners up there. Hello, hello,
Scandinavia. He pretty much said it's a great guy. Now, mind you
that his mom was hanging out with Castro. You see the there's
pictures everywhere. Hubba hubba. And if you look now she
was also she was kind of slowly everyone knows this. And she
promiscuous. And if she was a hottie, yeah. And if you haven't
looked at the photos, I have to say there is some kind of
resemblance between Castro and Trudeau.
He's little there's a resemblance read Pierre Trudeau
too. But yeah, but that notch but Pierre Trudeau had a small
head and was and he looked exactly like Martin Short.
Small heads are common. Well, here's what one analyst said. I
was actually thinking retired general or some states
Lieutenant
Colonel round Lieutenant Colonel Fox News strat strategic analyst
joins me now well, let's deal with the low hanging fruit first
of all, because it's it's fun to do. I mean, these comments are
just off the wall. I don't think there's anybody who's been more
effusive in praise of this dictator then the Canadian Prime
Minister Trudeau, whose father was also a Prime Minister who
praised Fidel. Here's what he said he called Fidel while a
controversial figure both Mr. Castro's supporters and
detractors recognized his tremendous dedication and love
for the Cuban people who had a deep and lasting affection for
El Comandante, love for the Cuban people as he was shooting
him in the head. David, Justin Trudeau has the intellectual
heft of cotton candy.
I really like that. The intellectual heft of cotton
candy. Yeah. Hey, candy. Navia. We don't have the only guys who
were shitty at the top. Okay. And there was no I was just
gonna say, doctors are now warning that 1000s 1000s of
doctors could leave Canada Navia and come to the United States
because of federal tax changes, soon to be approved by
parliament. That will add on 10s of 1000s of dollars in new taxes
for medical doctors. And they're all saying screw it. We want to
come into America. Well, get in line. They're more than welcome.
I welcome i
i found that just an aside, there was one report about Fidel
being a CIA operative. Yeah, in his early years. You may have
heard that right. Yeah. Absolutely. So I was thinking
that perhaps it was the you know, he's still was all the way
to the end. Because of all these assassination technique, take
failed attempts. Everything failed because he was either
warned or that we are the Bay of Pigs thing was just
cancelled. Exploding cigar trick wasn't that one. Yeah. He tried
to blow him up with a cigar and all this other stuff. But none
of these things worked. And then they finally gave up and I guess
some when Reagan came along, they signed in a policy you
can't try to assassinate foreign leaders. And I'm thinking he
probably was I think he's the guy was right to the end and he
went to 90, they didn't expect that bumper warranty. I was just
wondering who's getting a check? Yeah, they continue to pay you.
I mean, what
else? Who knows? Who knows?
Well, anyway, just an aside. Yeah.
Let's see. I have a couple of things. Yeah. Why don't we do
this? This is just a brief one, you know, I think was Trump who
said everybody to be on the lookout, we're gonna pressure
the Clinton Foundation now all EU countries around the world
were pressuring these guys pressuring them, which is what I
think should be done but more interestingly, staying at home
Palm Springs. Has I did a big golf tournament Palm Springs. Do
you know what that is? which one it is? Dying? have no idea. So
it's a big golf tournament, and it benefits a hospital. And in
the past few years, they have brought the Clinton Foundation
in as a part of this big golf tournament. Now typically when
you bring someone big into the golf tournament, they bring
money to raise money for the, for the for the cause. This is
the local Palm Springs TV station, talking about the exact
opposite of how the Clinton Foundation is involved in what
it means to all of their local charities. In
2012, the Clinton Foundation teamed up with the health care
company Humana to become the title sponsor for what used to
be known as the Bob Hope classic in leukemia, but unlike most
sponsorships, it was the golf tournament that gave money to
the Clinton Foundation. That year, they received almost
$300,000 While the tournament gave 1.8 million in total, and
that included on average about $16,000 to 32 local charities
and $1 million to Eisenhower Medical Center, the original
benefactor of the Bob Hope classic in 2013. Tax Documents
show the Clinton Foundation received $600,000 from the
tournament, while Eisenhower received no donation and 39
local charities received on average 15,000 apiece. In 2014,
the Clinton Foundation received $1 million, while 32 local
charities received on average $15,000. In 2015. The final year
Humana was involved the Clinton Foundation received $700,000
from Desert classic charities, or 42 times the average donation
offered to other local charities 40 of which received on average
$16,000 tax documents for the 2016 tournament aren't available
yet. And representatives for the Clinton Foundation and desert
classic charities couldn't say whether the foundation received
any money. But we do know over four years, the Clinton
Foundation here in the desert received nearly $2.6 million or
41 times the average amount other local charities received
over that same timeframe.
Seems about right.
There was a little separation, they gotta have cracked down on
this thing. Here's a report on RT another reason to stop
listening to RT on the Clinton Foundation. They've done a
number of these expos days in the Clinton Foundation. But this
was an interesting one because it shows how the they were
taking foreign money and then they decided to only take money
from six countries. And then they went on the street and talk
to a bunch of different people about and they all thought it
was a scam at least in Germany. And because it's about Germany's
financing Hillary's campaign with Clinton Foundation front
money then these steps implication from the
German government prior to the presidential election, following
the story for us is Artis Taylor open.
The Clinton Foundation brings in hundreds of millions of dollars
every year. It's part of the Clinton family's kind and
charitable public image. But where does this money come from?
A lot of the donations don't come from private citizens but
from governments. Lots of taxpaying citizens around the
world. Whether they personally approve of it or not, are
financially tied in with Hillary Rodham Clinton. In 2015. The
foundation's financial ties to various human rights violating
and terrorism linked regimes got negative publicity, the
Foundation announced that it would only receive money from
six trusted countries, Norway, Australia, Canada, the
Netherlands, Britain and Germany acknowledged as its closest
ally, it is very good to have a partner at the helm of Germany,
who is working with us to resolve a lot of the issues and
solve the problems that we face together. The state owned German
Corporation for international cooperation donated roughly $2.5
million to the charity. The German Federal Ministry for the
Environment also donated millions. The money was
designated for restoring forests in East Africa, among other
things, but alongside concerns over the global environment. The
German government also showed concerns about the result of the
US election
with some time the election campaign this year was a
particular one with some confrontations that were
difficult to stomach. i As many of you watch the election
results with trepidation. Your money
was for forest and cultivation projects in Kenya and Ethiopia.
This is a joke. Why should the money go around the world from
Germany to the US just to arrive? Back in Africa? There
are many German organizations could do it better than the
Hillary Clinton Foundation? The money was probably spent for
election campaign of
Hillary Clinton. That's quite an accusation. Yeah. Oh, nice.
I think he's accurate. He's right that what else would this
be used for? Why do you wait? Why do you Why does the German
government give money to the Clinton Foundation to spend it
in Africa and they have their own organism He has to do the
same thing. Well, because
it's obviously not about helping people. It's about access and
connections and you know, scratching backs.
Yeah, it's a scam. Yeah.
I had something about that. Hold on, what was the was it about
Germany? Doesn't matter. But I will stay in the EU's for a
moment if you don't mind.
In Canada need you think? Yeah,
we got a couple of big stories going on. We have European
Parliament presidency up for grabs. And the way that you
know, we have three presidents in the European Union, the
president of Parliament, president of the Council, and
the President of the Commission, think I have that right.
To those four is three was four.
What's the fourth one? Oh, man, I had my Ah, no, it's three.
John. Four. Yes.
President I think go on and I think my
paperwork will hold on was okay, you take a look at the paper. I
think it's three but okay, maybe it's four. Okay. Guarantee.
Okay. Well, the parliament presidency is up for grabs. And
to remind you how it works. The candidates are voted on by the
members of parliament, not by the public of countries, no, by
the members of parliament, who themselves are elected. So it's
kind of like their Oh, Europe's own electoral college in a way.
But typically, there's a left and right grand coalition. You
really can't tell the difference between the left and the right
but the Socialist Party is getting pissed off and they want
in the leader
of the European Parliament socialist group, Gianni patella
has thrown his hat into the ring to become the institution's next
president. That could be an end to the parliament's right left
to grand coalition. They must three presidencies of the three
top European institutions cannot belong to the People's Party. He
explains the one of the three presidencies must belong to the
socialists on that basis will verify the convergence is
operates with
it must belong. Yeah, it's only fair. You see, this is how
Europe works. John, it has to be there has
to be faces will verify the convergences and will cooperate
with the one who agrees with us and the bras, the leader of the
European People's Party wouldn't comment when approached by urine
use on Wednesday. The tellers announcement comes a week after
incumbent Parliament President Social Democrats, Martin Schultz
said he won't run for reelection and move to surprise the
socialist group according to sources, and BPS that use a vote
for his replacement in January.
Yeah, you are correct. It is the European Okay,
I got him. I got your presidential year. Yeah. You got
President of the European Parliament, President of the
European Council, President of the European Commission, which
is a powerful one. And then the big one, which is Presidency of
the Council of the EU.
Yes, you're right. But that's not a an individual. It's a
position held by a national government. So it's not a
person. So, for instance, I think it's Poland now. So Poland
gets the presidency, and then whoever they want, of course,
usually is the leader of the country. He becomes that for for
six months, I think.
Yeah, I'll read a little definition to council of the EU,
where national ministers dictate EU legislation. In other words,
that Parliament doesn't have anything to do with legislation.
Now, this thing, just they can't introduce legislation doesn't
have a permanent single person president. It's work is led by
the country holding the council presidency, which rotates every
six months. Hey, go.
Damn. Now I know more about civics than the Europeans.
Apparently. Anyway, go on. All right.
So in this backdrop, there's a lot of moving parts. And this
was just a fabulous report. As we know, Europe has been saying
they need their own army, they need headquarters, we need to
coordinate we can't trust NATO. We can't, we can't rely on them.
And who knows when that crazy guy comes into
office. It's the biggest defense funding and research plan in
more than a decade.
Now remember, biggest defense funding and research in more
than a decade? You I mean, how much do we spend on military
shit in America?
A 650 plus billion dollars a year,
the European Union has unveiled proposals which reverse billions
in carbs and send a message to the US so the block wants to
stand on its own two feet when paying for security.
If the Europeans will manage to invest better on their defense.
This is going to make also NATO stronger. So there is the
Euro what's her name? The European Defence Minister
on their defense, oh, blue, blue collar. Yeah, that will make
also
NATO stronger. So there is no competition. No duplication on
the country. There is a joint work with doing member states
are all 28 fully on board on this.
Oh, how's it Yeah, everyone's fully on board, which means they
haven't had a vote yet. And it's kind of massaging it because
everyone has to be on board in order for anything to work.
European Commission plans are 5 billion euro funds select
governments can Whoa,
5 billion. Oh, man. Whoa, John, what can they buy with 5 million
by billion nothing. He had a couple planes maybe. And now
they can
that's just the start. They started on. They buy some stuff.
They say, Oh, look, we did. We don't have enough money. We need
more money.
We need the other category, which is the maintenance support
together to buy new helicopters and planes and to release
funding for research.
All the member states are using a public resources to Defense
Research separately. Private sector is using the limited
resources typically, yes, and that is the reason why we cannot
develop games as much as there is a need.
The commission is proposing 500 million euros a year on
innovation from 2017 and 90 million pilot plan is set to
start next year, with three and a half billion potentially
allocated from 2021 to 2027. Amid falling spending on defense
research, EU governments have increasingly relied on America
is too early to tell if Brexit Britain could and would want to
be involved in the new plan.
Yeah, okay. Fine. All right. 500 million a year. Great. I don't
know what you guys are planning but you're not going to get very
far with that.
They know it. They just don't want to do shocked up their own
public. But what's
really going to bankrupt the EU is their new power play. It's
called the power play.
Do they say it like that? Yeah, power play.
This is the mandate from the European Union on carbon
emissions cuts. And renewable energy uses timelines,
timeframes, and it I'm gonna say it's unobtainable. And this is
probably one of the dumbest things they can do.
European Commission has unveiled its big power plan. Cutting wage
by the way, it's
it's our plan.
It's very, I thought it was patent. They call power play.
But okay. It's like 2000 pages or something. I haven't read
it all European Commission has unveiled its big plan, cutting
waste better integrating renewables and phasing out
subsidies for coal fired electricity generation, parts of
it smarter wind and solar energy producers will no longer have
priority for selling to the grid, all the places where
renewables already have a large share. Campaigners have been
warning against that claiming it risks slowing progress. The EU
aims to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 40% Compared to
1990 levels, and it wants renewables to make up at least
27% of the power mix by 2030. Regional Centers are proposed to
improve cooperation among grid operators. But all of this still
needs to be approved by Member States and the European
Parliament's key in there
is the regional centers who will help everyone work together.
Hello to they've got the banking union, they've got the banks
under control. They've obviously got all the legislation under
control. And now you're they've got the money under your
control, their control, and now your your electricity. We lose
the day, the European Union, but who? Then what was
privileged and booze the bad actors that it was a elites?
Well, can we name any of them?
Well, it's these regional power coordination centers. And I
don't know, there's not a lot. I have to read through the rest of
the document to find out. More Yeah, I always read that stuff.
2000 pages? Yeah. The affordable,
Affordable Care Act was 2000 pages. I don't mind. I don't
mind. But I believe this is a very bad and very bad idea for
Europe, is they want to increase wind power, okay? Increase the
wind, please. You're going to need you're going to need gas
plants. And more gas plants means more Russian gas. So I
don't see how this is a good idea. And we might as well go
into our climate gate for a moment do we have to the gate to
the gate of the climate gates open once again today, briefly
to Thomas Friedman, on the BBC talking about climate change.
Here's a guy here's a guy who came out at us out of New York
knows that when he's over there talking to them. He feels like
he can say whatever he wants.
Yeah, so these these forces will accelerate not withstanding
whoever is elected.
Absolutely. You know, our friend Rob lots of great environmental
scientists and Rob likes to say about Mother Nature, weather
Donald Trump accepts climate change or not. They say no
mother nature just chemistry, biology and physics. That's all
she is. It can't talk her up you can't talk her down. You can't
say Mother Nature. I think you're a hoax. She's gonna do
whatever chemistry biology and physics dictate. And Mother
Nature always bats last
it's kind of contradicting himself.
Mother nature always bats last this
is Mother Nature's does physics and science and you can't talk
her up you can't talk her down but apparently we can control
her by
night if she bats last easily. Keep that was that was a screw
up. No, it said the guy what? Yeah, it's one of those things
that you practice early in the show that the load Zinger you
get me with is obviously had that line in waiting. He had to
use
this. Yes, yes. Yes. And it didn't come out. Well,
no, no good nature always bats last cute.
Another NPR podcast presstitute. With a professor from James
Madison University, Travis reader,
the United Nations says there will be two and a half billion
more people on the planet by 2050. Each will likely create
more carbon emissions and scientists say those emissions
could reach a dangerous tipping point by mid century.
You know what they triggered there was a trigger a trigger
word, or let's see what mean point. Yeah, tipping the tipping
point was in 1980. that tipping point was in 1970. The Tipping
Point was in 1990. The Tipping Point was in 2000. We've gone
beyond the tipping point. We're before the tipping point. Now
that tipping point has been moved up to 2050. Yep,
tipping point that create more carbon emissions and scientists
say those emissions could reach a dangerous tipping point by mid
century. To avoid a disaster. One man is proposing a radical
idea. Oh is NPR is Jennifer Ledoux reports. He aims to
convince people to have fewer children. Travis reader is you
ready?
There we go. Population Control children.
Travis reader is not a climate scientist. He's a philosopher
with the Berman Institute of Bioethics at Johns Hopkins and
his arguments. Meet he's in a Tweety jacket and sneakers
speaking to several dozen students at James Madison
University. How old are
you going to be in 2036? Are you thinking about having kids? How
old are your kids going to be in 2036?
dangerous climate change will be happening by then he says, and
the world's poorest nations will suffer most, even though rich
countries like the US create far more carbon emissions per
capita.
So here's what's happening. When I have a kid, I'm creating a
being who's doing the much greater proportion of the
contribution to the harm, and she's not going to suffer for
it, the other kid is and that seems like how do we know
that big climate deal in Paris reader tell students it doesn't
cut emissions nearly enough to avoid a catastrophic tipping
point. But this might he cites a study that finds reducing global
fertility by just half a child per woman could have a huge
impact. If it happens soon.
No full child for you. You can only have half a child.
Dodger the Muslims.
I love this. And
then you believe this guy? Professors, the population
control guys all over again from the 1970s Yep. Same group of
people. Yeah. Eugenics. Yeah, we're all gonna die by the year
2000. That was common thinking of in 1970 when Erdman came out
with his book, The Population Bomb. It was good Population
Bomb.
Yeah. Yeah. So this folds in nicely to a conversation about
birth control because of its population control, and we have
it's it's a very hot topic in the United States has always
been that way. And I assert that while yes, people who have
certain beliefs could be religious or otherwise, they may
be at the forefront of pro life, not allowing abortions. But as
far as I know, it is a constitutional question. It's
not a religious question. I mean, the Supreme Court has
ruled Roe v. Wade. It's a it's a constitutional question. I'm
asking you really, isn't it? When it comes to what is allowed
in United States? Is it a religious question or
constitutional one?
It's a question of the law. So constitutional, all 12 No,
here's the way it works. You have a you're a member of a
religion, you can follow your own religious precepts is not a
problem, right? I mean, so you don't have to have an abortion,
right. You're not forced to have an abortion. You can do whatever
you want, or you can be like an agnostic or you can be an
atheist, and you can have all the abortions you want is your
business is what the do promise the religion is getting out of
the people's business. So if I'm a Catholic, and I don't believe
that you should ever have an abortion, I will never have one.
But But there's got to be some at some point, you got to say,
You got to protect the people that believe otherwise. And so
the law gets in the way. And so you you say, well, it's you're
saving the unborn children. What is the law? We are a nation of
laws,
what is the law that gets in the way?
There used to be a law against having abortions. The law is
against the law to have an abortion. That's what land
that's been overturned is gone.
And the reason why it is a constitutional issue is there is
about life. Because you can't kill somebody, you can't just go
up and kill somebody. And the question is, can you kill them
before they're born? I don't see any other issue than that. Yeah,
sure. Bia assholes.
Yes, no, that's not true. There's individual white rights
of the woman. The woman has a right to do what she wants,
according to the Constitution, because it's the Bill of Rights
and everything. Yeah, of course, the question then you so you
have to go by what deficit? What's the definition of when
you're when you give? There
you go? That is the entire question. And and I'm wondering
why you're getting all huffy and pissy at me, because you're
actually not.
I'm just wondering why what what your question is? Well, you
start off with, is it a constitutional question or
religious question? It's both. That's the answer.
It's interesting to hear you side. With the ladies from the
view,
I don't understand what they're about people using getting free
birth control, so they can control the population somewhat
and not have to get abortions. I never, I can understand the
bush, let me just say something. I love that
she sent me play the butt slam.
It was painful to do it too. And here's the here's the confusion
that goes on right in the beginning here. The birth
control that companies like Hobby Lobby have rejected as
being part of their package to their employees based on their
religious freedom, yet another constitutional right, is right,
this is why it's a problem. They are confused, because we looked
at this case very, very closely.
And the Hobby Lobby thing we go deep into Yes.
And it's not about condoms, or any other type of birth control.
It is specifically about the IUD and other like Plan B, that it
lists because of course, people we believe that the child is
already a child and you display it in pregnancy, you can't kill
it. Those are the ones they reject to they don't reject the
condoms or any other form. But that of course is not apparent
to the women or the view.
I don't understand what their beef is about people using
getting free birth control so they can control the population
and not have to get abortions. I never I can understand abortion
big, because people are religiously against something
like that. I was raised a Catholic, we were told no. Okay,
fine. That's your feeling. And I appreciate and I respect it. But
birth control that went out with which Pope 150,000 years ago.
Even the Catholic Church true No, it's not
why someone else's religion impacts me. Well, that's I don't
understand it. I don't mind that the law doesn't say you have to
have an abortion. It doesn't force you to have an abortion.
And when I do that, I'm not pointing at anybody. Particular.
I'm just saying it doesn't force you. But I don't like the idea
that someone who doesn't know my life or my family's life, I can
make a decision that if my child is raped, I don't have the right
with her to say we are terminating this I don't
understand why. I don't get what I if I don't subscribe to your
religion, why am I being pushed into believing what you believe?
I thought that was against the the life of the amendment said
you can do that. There is no say you can't born
exactly what the amendment
says you can't do that. Amendments. Amendment six.
That's what the amendment says. The amendment says and can do I
know what amendment she's talking about. The only thing
amendment say is what the federal government can't do. It
never says what you as an individual can or can't do.
I thought that was against the life of the amendment said you
can do that. But there's no say you can't force anybody to be in
any religion, I believe anyway, I
believe you're the lawyer. I believe that that was settled on
basis of privacy. Am I right? Yes. Everyone has the right to
make make. That's what it is.
I will see that's that's an amendment. I think it's it's
what the amendment says you cannot you can't have good
privacy. That's what that's about right to
make make decisions on her own.
I don't understand why there is any conversation about the AI
understand people who don't believe it and don't have one
get off bound you don't believe a gay man don't marry a gay
person I don't think it's
I don't think I don't think it's merely a religious issue I think
there are a lot of people that I know personally that are a
religious either atheist or agnostic that do have a problem
with abortion so I'm not necessarily a big it's a it's a
religious issue with I have no issue for anybody would have a
problem
with birth control other than maybe they feel that it
interferes with God's Will I think it interferes with God's
talking to God now.
They're talking to God now. Wow. That's quite an insult. Yeah,
people talk to God get with a joy to face with God's will. Now
again,
do your friends believe that you have the right to make the
decision for your family? Right but and the things that you want
you feel are right or did they feel they should be able to come
in and sit with you and say, Well, you know, I don't think
you should be doing because we bench about this when people do
it online. So get out of my you know, she almost said it. She
almost said it my fun time.
Mr. Fabulous. Thank you love that one.
Well, I learned something. I learned something. I didn't
know. I always thought Joy Bay Harbor was Jewish. Yeah. Ah,
good catch. She, I mean, she acts like a Jewish she seems to
be a Jewish progressive. I've seen no people like that.
They're all over Berkeley. She's a Catholic. Really? I guess. I
wonder. Yeah. I guess there's just says that, I guess. All
right. I gotta wait. Since you're gonna talk about these
liberals. I got this funny story about Ben Affleck. Have you
heard this one? Probably not. Okay, Ben, there's a show on PBS
called thy free I don't know what the name of it is by
heritage or something. And is this old?
No, no, it's, it's the British show. That is sponsored by the
Mormons who do the what is the genealogy? Yeah, what's the name
of that? The big outfit ancestry.com.
And so they have this show and this is Professor black guy
who's edited he's really good at digging through ancestors and so
he had an issue. And these douchebags is douche bag
athlete. You don't realize what a douche bag he isn't to you.
Until you listen to this clip or
more emails from Sony have leaked this time. It's Ben
Affleck in the crosshairs. The movie star was featured on the
produce a Ben Affleck. She did she said it Ben Affleck Ben
Affleck. This time it's Ben Affleck in the Ben Affleck
crosshairs. The movie star was featured on the PBS show Finding
your roots, which digs up interesting facts about the
ancestry of famous people. When it was Affleck's turn the shows
researchers discovered that one of his ancestors was a slave
owner. Ben wasn't having it. The leaked email show that Ben tried
to get host Henry Louis Gates Jr. To remove the slave owner
ancestry from his family tree. Gates complained to his boss
that the removal would be against PBS rules, and that at
least four guests in the series have already revealed slave
owner ancestors. But PBS Henry Louis Gates in particular, it
appears caved. They didn't reveal, however, that Ben
Affleck had another relative who fought in the revolution. And
how how proud Mr. Affleck was of that
this means he enlisted in the Revolutionary Army in 1776.
That's right. Your sixth great grandfather volunteered to serve
in the Patriot army. Wow. Wow. He fought been in the American
Revolution. Wow, that is incredible. Wow.
Okay. Ah, she's got he wouldn't put the slaveholder thing in
there because it wouldn't be it wouldn't work since he works in
Hollywood. Right. But he doesn't mind going. Wow. Wow. Wow. Which
he was saying. Oh my God, that's unbelievable. The kid was 11
Wow. He's a sixth grader. He's 11. He goes, Hey, can I help?
Yeah, you can watch these muskets. I mean, what does he
do? What did he do? He didn't fight. And if he did that, he
should be embarrassed about that. Because this is like the
Kony Kony 2000. He's like me, he's like a child soldier. And
he's proud of it. Yeah. It's a scandal. It is.
Oh, man. Oh, okay. That guy this is one before we take a break.
Then you heard about the plane that crashed with the soccer
team.
Soccer Team. That's that's horrible story.
Yeah, but it's a very odd story because you know, you know me
I'm an I'm an airman by here about a crash. I go look at And
I go listening I go reading there's no reports yet I love
that. I mean all pilots read reports like coming out how
these guys mess up. And so I exited was a pretty cool YouTube
channel which I've linked in the show notes. And what they do is
they they show a map of the of the aerodrome and they show
little moving planes for all of these incidents. It's not all
horrible crashes, but that all kinds of stuff, just incidents
incidents that happen and they also have this now, the air
traffic controller and the pilots are all speaking in
Brazilian Portuguese, I guess it is, or Portuguese. But the way
they did it is screen you can read the translation along in
real time as you're hearing their voices and these guys were
in some distress. But here's the report Colombian
authorities are looking into reports that the plane carrying
Brazilian footballers that crashed near Medellin may have
run out of fuel. Amid the process of recovering and
identifying bodies and helping the bereaved the investigation
is getting underway. Experts from Brazil and the UK where the
plane was built a helping Colombian authorities, less
familiars. Speaking from the airport and Midian where the
flight was due to land, Brazil's ambassador to Colombia said the
families as you can imagine, are in a very delicate situation. We
tried to avoid them coming to Colombia so that they don't have
to go through the additional stress. all but six of those on
board three footballers, a journalist and two crew members
died in the crash. The shepherd Quincy team had risen through
the divisions, and we're about to play a South American final
the biggest match of their history. A leaked recording is
said to reveal a pilot telling air traffic controllers the
plane was running out of fuel and suffering electrical
failure. Investigators returned to the wreckage on Wednesday,
soldiers had guarded the hillside crash site overnight.
Most of the bodies are said to have been recovered and will be
repatriated.
So the story that keeps cropping up is leaked audio leaked audio.
I don't know what you're talking about. These air traffic control
transceivers are a blink to the internet. They're online 24/7
people record them, it was very easy to go in and just need one
of my pilot forms any leaks, or leaked leaked. And here's what I
discovered. This was just a bad day all round was bad weather.
There was a lot of activity at the airport. And there were two
planes that had an emergency. And the first one was already on
its final approach. And the second one had declared an
emergency and then declared priority and the end because
they said we have a fuel issue. And what I the way I listened
the way I watched, I think the controller did a fantastic job
she really, really tried to get because you have their people
taken off this stuff coming in, they have to check the runway,
when when someone's coming into crash land. It was the
coordination was all going very well. And then she's vectoring
this plane, and then they come back on and they say okay, we've
now lost all electrical power. We have fuel issue now. And you
can hear the copilot I know it was first in command or was the
pilot who was on the radio. And so vectors vectors vectors,
because they they they only basically have their old school
steam gauges, which are work on some kind of backup power, I
guess, because the pilot was also talking on the radio. So
some power was working. But he drops off the radar. And she
says, Look, I can't see you on the radar, which means they did
have a serious power failure. And she tries to vector them,
too because he can't see them. She has no idea where they are.
And she tries to vector them to the right place. She did make
one small mistake because they were heading 360 which is due
north she said turn left 10 degrees to 0010 which would be a
right hand turn. And she corrected it later saying two or
350 And then after that you didn't hear the aircraft anymore
and it crashed my conclusion by I don't know what why they're
coming up with maybe because it's MIDI Yean and maybe some
all they were they were taken out because they were winning.
That's it's possible there was sabotage on the plane but these
pilots, they were really trying to get this turkey on the
ground. Everyone did their job. A bad day.
Yeah, yeah. I told Rex do take place. Yeah, yeah. So but you'll
see you'll see this. You'll see this I didn't notice anybody
saying was a conspiracy. I thought that part about the
leaked tapes, which is trying to dramatize things. Yeah, but it's
propping up by the way. Make news? Oh, wow.
Do we need a jingle?
No, that was fake news that you yourself just pointed it out
that it was fake news.
This was incredible fake news.
Yeah. What was that? What was the what was the bad actor?
The bad actor. Yeah. Oh, no, it's everywhere. It's
everywhere. It's all this was your own.
They all say leaked tape.
You go ahead and look just look Google for
the tape. It's all fake news and his main mainstream outlets are
all producing fake news. I don't know. I'm beating this to death.
By the way, that's okay. I'm always I'm gonna keep doing it.
Okay,
we need to take a break. One of our producers sent us very
interesting note that I'd like to that I'd like to share. Now,
of course, we can't. I don't want to mention who it is. Hey,
Adam, John, I hope this note finds both of you. Well, it's
been a bit crazy on the advertising world here. He works
at an agency. But I think a media buying agency, maybe it's
been a bit crazy on the advertising world here and want
to fill you in on something has been happening today, the media
buying agency I work at, we have a number of our clients email
and call us today about yanking ads off of Breitbart. While
requests like these are common, we've never had the same site
called out by multiple clients on the same day, my gut feeling
is there's a concerted effort today by the mainstream media to
cut off bright Bart's advertising. I haven't seen any
definite evidence, but it's possible that it's there. And I
want to say yes, this is the guy who's behind Media Matters. He
is very proud. We've talked about it. He's very proud that
he is that he took away all Glenn Beck's advertising.
Remember that guy? Yeah. So they're targeting bright Bart's
advertising and they will be successful.
Yeah, that's the problem. Nobody will be successful, they will.
Breitbart will suffer. Yep. Because it's being targeted.
It's just the varieties done and both sides do this. It's not
like just the left wingers or right wingers, both sides do it,
they find somebody they don't like and target them target to
make their advertisers back off. And the next thing you know that
guys are there's, the guys are suffering.
And this is going ahead, this is going to happen everywhere. Once
people figure it out, they're going to do it to MSNBC to CNN,
they're really I think they will go all out there will be a lot
of it. But it'll start with alternative media first, for
sure. And they're just going to systematically take it down. The
beauty of our model is that you only give us what you think the
show is worth. And maybe that's just some art. Or maybe it's,
you know, some clips or jingle or something else. You're good
at our information and of course financing. And we have lost a
lot of people in the past year. Who would think we were Trump's
up of chase after the Reddit yesterday, I saw the no agenda
Reddit. Oh, Millia Oh, hi. I should read this to you.
You should? Because I'm not going to
wait that illusia No, I think yeah, no. Yeah, you cut off for
a second. Okay, hold on a second. This is the the
subreddit the subreddit in the morning. Oh, there's a lot of
it. Now actually. Here's my favorite. Adams refusal to take
pizza gate seriously is a huge red flag for me. I've I'm done
donating to the show. Yes, John. I've actually donated around 200
bucks but no more. Adam is acting very fishy about this
whole topic. MTV Video DJ boy probably who knows why he's
trying so hard to discredit. He acts like he's done research.
But clearly he hasn't. All he talks about is the Instagram
takes as if that's all there is. Anyway, I'm wondering how much
research he puts into his other theories. And there's a ton of
of these posts pretty much calling me out specifically for
being complicit in covering up pedophilia. Thanks, so I'm not
donating Well, you know what good I'd rather be poor.
Well, anyway, didn't sound like really much of a donor or
producer. i You said no, he said, looking for an excuse not
to donate. That's what you do. That's what you do.
I'm going to show must move by donate to no agenda. Imagine all
the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
Well, let's thank a few people for contributing to show eight.
A two. And then maybe we'll talk about pizza gate afterwards.
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say here? We went some travel karma. We'll put that at the
end. You guys Sarah and I are headed to Peru. We're very
delayed official honeymoon. John, you would love to train we
will be on from cus Cusco, Cusco to Machu Picchu, and then he has
a picture. I will do my best to get some filming. Now. Stop for
a second. Now, the thing about
talking, you're the one talking stop all you want. I'm stopping
myself.
A couple of things. One you have to have if you're gonna go to
Machu Picchu. You have to have you had to have some locals that
help you. So you get through this. So you know where's Machu
Picchu? That's in the mountains in the Andes Mountains. Yeah,
it's up there. Your 12 14,000 feet. Generally speaking, I
don't really have too much trouble at that altitude. But
you you do want to take some altitude sickness pills
or aspirin I think also works, doesn't it?
Well, I don't I don't use either. I mean, I have when I
went to Peru, I took out two sickness pills and was fine. But
the kicker the real thing you want is the cocaine leaves. Yes.
And they have him up there. There's always some guy with a
bag of these things and you want to grab it known as the dealer.
It's usually an old fart with a bag of cocaine leaves. And
here's the way I remember when I did it, I was like MO You know,
not young is the group that I was with they're all in their
20s and I'm the only one who partook the guy says you gotta
because I knew that they use this or altitude issues and you
can also have cocaine tea it's the it's all over the country
the cocaine team bringing some bags back and it's coca leaves
tea and it's very tasty. And but these leaves you want to grab
any what you do is that she's like a chewing tobacco can they
chew and chew and so they kind of get moist and you have a
pocket of them in your cheek you know? And you chew away until
they moisten it up and you get some juice out of these things.
And you want to always have a constant mouthful of these
horrible leaves it tastes like Lawn clippings and enjoyment
Have you tasted lawn clippings?
You know that's a good question. I don't think I maybe when I was
a kid i Okay. They taste what you think Lawn Clippings would
taste like is the proper way of putting it got it. And so you
but I'm there with all these people we're going up and down
these we're in the mountains and we go to visit the we're in a
little town and we go from village kind of walked in one
village to another it's up a hill I'm having no trouble with
the with the altitude and other people have off on your half now
no huffing and puffing but they're bent over huffing and
puffing what
is the what is it physically that the coca leaves do to
you? I have no idea I've never found a good explanation for it
but they're definitely good for mountain for being walking
around in the mountains and Machu Picchu is way up there
where you really energetic
really quickly I'm gonna walk around to the top of the
mountain whoo
No, no, but I was I felt normal. Okay, that's the difference they
didn't so so you're like I wonder if he's walking around if
you take it at sea level do you get high from it if you take it
at sea level?
No, no even though T doesn't do that it used to be illegal
facility in the United States and they made it illegal for
some stupid reason. It's just a kind of a it's not even a mild
stimulant. You don't even know what it does. Can you see that
juice? I'm just getting the juice out of that. But I would
say that make sure you get some wood find some of the leaves or
just buy some of the bags and get some of the bags of tea and
take them with you and chew on that. But you if you don't do
that, which is the the altitude sickness bill and the cocaine
leaves, you will have a miserable time
of it. We would like Sir Patrick Coble to report back on his
cocaine extravaganza.
Yeah. And I think there was something with the with the
group I was with. I think it was some I think they were so
brainwashed by them, you know, oh, this is God. This is like
it's legal in Peru. Let's start with that premise. And
it's good for you.
That might be anyway, so have fun. This guy's great, great
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but yeah, it's already raining there and rain on it. Oh,
we don't have to do the rain stick. No. Oh no. All right. All
right. Good because when I do it it always waterline
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starts to rain like like crazy in Austin, so I want to be
careful with that thing.
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found something out. I'm not the only one with the horrible
allergies in Austin.
Who I thought that was without discussion. But that was gonna
go a foregone conclusion,
but I'm not the only podcaster who has this?
Oh, well. Yeah, I've just got a lot of podcasters we have a very
famous one. You have a number of I know that Okay, which one are
you referring to? Are you talking about the the seed man
seed
man?
That's right seed man, man I thought can you tell by his
voice or he's got allergies or not.
I have a listen people that have never had allergies and I know
that allergy till I was 17 are in hell I was up all night
coughing I busted a rib. I got to make small rib and coughing
and I can hardly breathe and I'm not bitching that nutraceuticals
I take lose weight and get healthier but I'm gonna I'm
gonna definitely get to the natural nutraceuticals I know
but deal with the mold but I've been doing the local honey and
bee pollen and stuff and it's just a working man. show his
bone doesn't have a honey leaving tomorrow morning. I
mean, it's that bad. I am being driven from Austin I may have to
move headquarters everything. Now the damn allergies were 12
months out of the year everybody's basically sick. It's
the biggest business has allergies. I don't know what is
going on, but it's getting bad. And I'm just telling you there's
some stuff going down is like World War one nerve gas when I
went outside my house, I got filters all over my house. Now
you name it. The electricity is at the wireless they think might
stir up your allergies as well. I'm I'm ready to go get a
farmhouse out in the middle of nowhere and run the damn thing
off solar or run it off candles. I don't know, man because let me
taste them. I hate somebody that's into being sick. And I
know what I feel like I've been run over by an 18 Wheeler. I'm
only here because it feels better than sitting in bed. I've
had my ash dump for and it was preferable to this. I've had
people put the boots to my guts and that feels better than this.
This is this is like fairings are dumped down my throat. My
brain feels like it's about to explode. It slips it seats so
painful. I'm like, Is this a joke? Does it continue going on
for a week by the way? God Almighty has been going on for a
week. Intense torture. Tell me why. It's I mean, a large part
of my office he's not even here. I talk to other offices locally.
They go here half our office has gone. Everybody I talked to sick
people have never been sick or say they sit in Kansas folks
that didn't normal.
There you go. Sounds like it's normal to me.
We know what's going to happen. There's a new product line
coming. No doubt about it. Oh, you think one of his organic
things of course, Info Wars allergy missed or something? Or
allergy allergy defense?
Because he has to know that this has been going on year after
year if you've been there for three or four years and every
year you got here the same damn storia so what's it news to him
somehow he's in the same town as resources no and second half a
second half a show. They're gonna have they're gonna have
show. Oh, man. Bad. Antarctica. This is the place that everyone
seems to be going today. Carry when deep inside Antarctica and
you know, we have an Antarctica treaty that no one shall go
beyond the ridge. We don't want to this is
now that you man, I'm glad you brought this up. Because it does
bring in some crackpot theories. There's lots of them but
Antarctica but yeah. Now that you mentioned is a little screwy
if you ask me unless it's just a lark. Well, I'm only going to be
Secretary of State for a couple more months. I'm going to take a
trip to Antarctica and the US taxpayers dime.
Yeah, but you know who else went on this little trip? There's a
lot of people who went this, you know, it sounds to me like there
was some big meeting Buzz Aldrin. And they had to airlift
him out. He's on his way back because he got sick. Why the
hell was 86 year old Buzz Aldrin there
have no idea it doesn't make any sense. Well,
of course it does. He's there to evaluate the Nazi flying
saucers. We all know that deep under the Antarctic is where the
original inhabitants of Earth have been staying. Ready to come
out and take over the world. Now you I know you think I'm crazy
England's no no there. There are several serious theories about
there being
theories and the bells there that this word they're all
Nazis. That's where Hitler is.
Yes, yes. Now you're talking John. there but I have to say
this Antarctica it really is. is so odd. You know why and why do
we have this treaty that we can't do anything in Antarctica?
Why is that? Why?
Well, that's enough. I have no idea. It doesn't make sense.
Unless there's a bunch of oil underneath the place. I'm sure
there's tons of oil or there's got to be some minerals and and
that's also
that's also something that's not allowed to be not allowed to be.
You can't do any oil receipt. Can't do anything there. No.
Well, I don't know. Maybe it's just me.
The environmental impact. Yeah. The volley fish I guess in the
area. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I thought it was suspicious that
gay and I knew about those those all these you see this on the on
these different channels on the History Channel and the H A,
you've seen the H C channel which is the Adolf Hitler
channel.
This is really an Adolf Hitler channel is
ah see a manual alert channel. And sure, it just has Hitler's
stories and they have these kind of discussions on those
channels. The History Channel is my all time favorite because it
actually when it began it was about a history that history
stories and yeah, it very slowly became by Hitler. They just
stuck with and then then it became aliens, right. So so my
saucers have an archive of a giant building filled with, with
with all kinds of files. Yeah. About flying saucers and
the flood the Nazi flying saucers that are all when they
talk
about that once in a while. The bell? It's called the bell. Oh,
that was cool. Yeah, well, you don't even know that. That part.
I didn't know people are gonna be very disappointed to know
that you don't know. Yeah, sure.
I'm sorry. Yeah. That was an interesting article in The New
Yorker, which I actually should have sent it to you to read,
titled Silicon Valley has an empathy vacuum. And I agree with
this story. And what it is, and you would know, maybe you are
out there, you're in the middle you hear it is Silicon Valley
seems to have lost a bit of its verve. Since the presidential
election, the streets of San Francisco spiritually part of
the valley feel less crowded, coffee shop conversations are
Hush, let's just there, everything feels a little muted
and eerie, quiet broken by chance of protesters. It even
seems as if there are more parking spots, technology
leaders, their employees, and those who make up the entire
technology ecosystem seem to have been shaken up and shocked
by the election of Donald Trump. And essentially, the article
claims pins the blame for Donald Trump's win on Silicon Valley,
and furthermore asserts that the inhabitants and workers in
Silicon Valley are starting to feel bad about it. Because we
didn't know the algorithm could make that happen. We didn't know
what and and I kind of liked the premise that all of these and of
course I you know, me being a fan of professor, Theodore, all
of these, these great ideas and concepts that Silicon Valley
dreams are like Uber, let's give it Uber, Airbnb. They don't you
know, Silicon Valley doesn't give a crap about what that does
to any other people except for their product. They don't care.
They don't care about very common about the hotel industry
with Airbnb. They don't care about transportation industry
with Uber. And they have no empathy.
No, that's the way that's the way Silicon Valley works. That's
the only way they can work that out. You have to be that way.
Yeah, very douchey. But
you don't feel like there's ended any self awareness of
this?
No, there's definitely none. None Oh, then you're I've always
felt that way. And you do it to us. You also noticed Well, I
haven't been
in San Francisco for a long time. So I don't I don't really
know if people are always an element
of it in Austin. This is vision bring this Dorothy up. This kind
of bothers me this little clip to play this thing. This is the
the chat they're talking about. They got this new guy to ex
Goldman Sachs character and he's gonna be the secretary
treasurer. I guess it played his tax cuts for upperclass. But
yeah, I'm glad you brought this up.
Any reductions we have in upper income taxes will be offset by
less deductions, so that there will be no tax absolute tax cut.
For the upper class, there will be a big tax cut for the middle
class, but any tax cuts we have for the upper class will be
offset by less deductions that day for it.
Now, this became a big issue of debate. But what got me is the
new common use of the word instead of tax cuts for the
wealthy. It's tax cuts for the upper class. Oh, this switcheroo
really gotten a good catch. And it's become the switcheroo
that's really gotten to me because we don't really have an
upper class technically but maybe we do now maybe there is
an upper class fact because the wealthy is not necessarily the
upper class in any real class structure no in England for
example much of the upper class is broke
Yeah, they all member of Lloyd's
Lloyd's, blow that and other bad investments but they're most of
the families are broke a lot
of their castles, the castles are all fallen down. Yeah.
Or they rent them out to people. And but the upper class has all
these other advantages. I was given a lecture about this by
some British upper class guy who says no, we were members of
clubs you can't get into we have all these amenities by by being
in the upper class, but most of the members of the upper class
in today's world are broke. But now all of a sudden, we have
this so called upper class in the United States, which is
really being kind of a synonym for wealthy. I don't like it. I
don't like the fact that it's being used as a word at all in
the United States upper
class. No, I agree. Yeah. Well, I think it's we use middle
class.
Yeah, middle class. Oh, you can use you also say working class
or the poor? Or the working? We're
actually in Austin, we have something called the working
poor.
Yeah, the working poor is the most of the work we're all
working
podcasters is what it is. Yes, this workout poor, working poor,
but the upper class again, he uses it. And then all the
reporting that took place after this guy talked his Munchkin, I
think is his name, something like that, I think is easier to
pronounce, and Munchkin in a way it's pronounced. And he is
introducing this and they're all picking up on it all the upper
class, the upper class. It's not about the upper class. It's
about the wealthy that we're dealing with here. That's why we
want a wealth tax. Upperclassmen don't have an upper class, find
extremely distressing.
Well, we'll see what I mean, I really can't comment and I think
I want to see what happens. All I heard was I was promised lower
taxes. I'll be waiting for that to happen. Oh, man, would that
be nice? Oh, I picked up on. Cuz I'm pretty much not interested
in this whole recount. And Jill Stein, like, crap, I don't care.
But I discovered an interesting discrepancy that I wanted to
highlight here. Jill is first on MSNBC, I think it's Larry
O'Donnell purpose of
the recount, is not to help one candidate or to hurt the other.
And in fact, we had identified three states when one of them
did not have a declared winner. So it wasn't clear which way
Michigan was gonna go. And I always stated throughout the
campaign, that when I was asked whether I would stand up for a
recount, if there were doubts about the reliability and the
accuracy of the vote, I always said yes, I would do that this
is something that the Green Party has done before the green
candidates have led the way on other recounts in Ohio in 2004.
And I always said that if there was doubt about the confidence
in the vote, that yes, I would stand up and call for a recount.
It's not about helping one candidate. This is about helping
voters restore our confidence in a voting system at a time that
voter confidence in our elections, our political system,
our social institutions across the board is kind of hitting
rock bottom. And this is something really positive that
we the voters can do. And in fact, people are chiming in from
across the country. Yeah, over 140,000 small donors
contributing at an average of $45 apiece. In order to make
this possible, we're standing up to say, we want to be sure that
this voting system is working for all of us. Okay. Bullshit.
And I'll tell you why. Once again, we have little
presstitute podcasts People always forget and forgetting
forgetting forgetting you on a podcast and no agenda producers
are everywhere listening to you. This is from the podcast, Abe
Lincoln's top hat. And on Abe Lincoln's top hat is Green Party
insider Robert Fitrakis. And GE, he kind of let the cat out of
the bag. But what really went on behind the scenes, I love this,
I was
in on the inside of some of these decisions that led me.
First of all, Jill Stein had no inclination on Earth to recount
this election. It wasn't her idea. She was contacted, and
you'll see some of this and news reports of this. John bodyfast,
who worked as a green attorney in 2004, winner of a genius of
war, who had been involved in elections. And again, Professor
Hartmann there at the University of Michigan, and a variety of
social scientists, who were real obsessed with the numbers. And
their target was Hillary Clinton. Jill Stein was plan B.
And when Jill Stein was approached, she would say she
hadn't really, you know, studied the problem in any depth. But
there was, you know, a variety of people that were concerned
about the red flags in the exit polls, and thought states that
close, particularly Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania,
needed to be looked into if we're to have faith in our
voting system. So I mean, it took her a while. come around,
it wasn't something she wanted to do was looking forward. I
mean, coming out of the campaign right at the end, if she'd had
pneumonia, it's on the record. You know, she'd been in the
hospital. She wasn't looking for this fight. And to tell you the
truth. I mean, there was a question of who, you know, who
actually would give money to this, right. I mean, you know, a
few of us that were involved with this, we're just as stunned
as anybody about the money coming in, we knew we couldn't
be enriched off it, we knew that it couldn't really go in to
build the party, the only thing he could do is recount it. And I
think after Jill looked at a variety of social science data
from different groups of election integrity, activists,
and scholars, that's when she decided to do it. And, and
again, she, I would say, was not the first choice, I think, and I
know, people have contacted Podesta. And the DNC I know,
people were, you know, reaching out repeatedly, the same group
to the Clinton campaign. So Joe was brought in, and I think at
first reluctantly. And, you know, once you realize there was
red flags, she was willing to proceed, because we have a non
transparent vote. The United States, in my opinion, does not
have a functioning democracy, as long as they allow these private
companies to secretly program the computers.
Well, how about that? Quite a little bit different than the
public story and craft story? So she wasn't even so it was the
Clintons who were always going to challenge this.
But they tried to get the Clintons to do it. They
wouldn't. Well, they lost but,
you know, I think they wanted to challenge it anyway.
I'm sure they, you know, they got on board, but they didn't
want to look like because it makes them look like douchebags.
Right. It's very alleged Stein do it because they barely made a
big stink about it. Oh, Trump's gonna say it's a boatloads of
bogus, but she didn't want to do it at all. So the reason I know
this makes her that's now now we know. That's a good clip.
And I have two more. Do you have anything you want to want to
hand us?
A couple? I got the one. I think the only important one I got
some other stuff on here.
I gotta move. It might show it for Sunday. Yeah.
But I do want to play this one. This is the well, there's I got
two shorties. This one actually had three.
By the way. I'm sure we're just basic before we continue. So we
spoke there briefly about the voting machines that these are
small companies. I'm thinking when Romney shows up to grovel
for Trump, which I thought was like, wow, okay. That meetings
taking place. Do you think he said, Hey, man, aren't you happy
that Bain Capital who runs a couple of companies that do
these voting machines that we rigged the vote for you?
Could be a guy that happened it wouldn't actually completely
surprised me.
You wouldn't surprise me either. Why else would that guy go? I
mean, you'd call them a douchebag. He made a public
scene about it, then you go and suck up to him. Makes no sense.
No inlet unless, like, Hey, man, did you like that vote rig and I
did.
know was possible. Well, talking about that kind of hacking.
Let's play these two clips. This is rule this is about rule 41.
Play rule 41. One,
don't condone Congress kicking cans down the road. This is one
example of where with a short delay, it would be possible to
have hearings, at least one hearing in both bodies, so that
the Congress could have a chance to debate a very significant
change in our hacking policy. that Congress has not weighed,
considered amended or acted like anything resembling an elected
legislator on this issue. There have been some who have looked
into the issue. But still, I call it Senate 101 is you have
at least a hearing on a topic with enormous potential
consequences for millions of Americans. that hadn't been
done, despite a bipartisan bill being introduced in the House
and Senate days after the changes were approved. lawmakers
and the public ought to know more.
Yeah, backstory John.
You want to know more? Yeah, I do. Okay, this is a big white
becomes a dissident Other empty body with Wyden and the other
guy the other side is corn and soy white and puts his bill into
play in court and says without objection, guy, right, and then
then corn in excess. So there's a douche bag because I didn't
look into it much. And then corn comes on, it kind of explains
why there's no hearing. For some reason. I don't know why this is
happening. But Wyden, I guess just discovered that this was
going on. It's a process rule in the criminal proceedings for
that, that you use to prosecute crimes. And as rule 41, and what
rule 41 will allow, after you listen to this next part of
this, it will allow people to it's a different mechanism of
hacking, like he said, hacking, it's you can get a you still to
get a warrant, but you can get a warrant. And now, instead of
coming over to bust into your machine, they can just do it
over the net. Okay, I think we and it also has something to do
with, although I don't know what they're talking about in terms
of this was you have to discuss this on the tech part of the
show someday. It's supposedly gets into bustin through VPNs
somehow, or bustin through calling a they're
calling this a hacking policy. Yes, that's what a lame ass
title appears
very lame, but they don't call it that in the bill. It's just
that what's widened, calls it. And so Wyden is trying to stall
to the end of the day, so they can put this thing off for some
reason I get this suspicion, because after I listened to
corn, and I said, this guy's got no excuse to even be up there,
widen. Because this has been in play for a very long time, but I
guess it caught him with his pants down. And he said, what's
going on at the last minute, because it's not just gonna go
through after being in play for three years. Let's listen to
cornice putting a stop to this. But the fundamental
problem with the request that had been made today is that
federal rule of Criminal Procedure 41 has already been
the subject of a lengthy three year process, with a lot of
thoughtful input public hearings and deliberation. As the
presiding officer knows, the courts have the inherent power
to write their own rules of procedure. And that's what this
is part of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. So what
happens is a pretty, pretty challenging process, when you
want to change a federal rule of criminal procedure, you have to
get an approval by the rules advisory committee. It's made up
of judges, law professors and practicing lawyers, then it's
has to be approved by the Judicial Conference. And then as
in this case, they have to be endorsed by the United States
Supreme Court, which is federal rule of Criminal Procedure 41
was on May the first 2016. So if there was any basis for the
claim that this is somehow a hacking of personal information
without due process of law, or without adequate consideration?
I just I think the process by which the Supreme Court has set
up through the rules advisory committee and through the
Judicial Conference, dispel any concerns that the that the
objections that were raised here, were not adequately
considered.
So it's really interpretation of rule 41.
No, I think is rule 41 itself. I just think Wyden had his was I'm
gonna have to call his office and find out what the deal is
called that when you call I'd love to hear what the process
is. Like, if it's the Emmys that shit, we can always throw it
out. But maybe it'd be interesting. Yeah,
I'd have to ask the record and they will say no.
Oh, that's right. You have to ask permission. Yeah, it's
not like calling those scammers in India.
I have one more clip. We gotta go. It's time. Sorry.
Okay. Well, I didn't hear that woman. The woman yelling 10
minutes.
If she's on she's on her own break. She already quit. He's
like, this is so long. I have a report from Chinese news. Would
you it takes a second to zero in and understand what she's
saying. But it isn't English with a
US missile destroyer, Zoom boats and high tech destroyer of the
British Royal Navy Duncan have turned into useless tin cans due
to China.
Can you hear what she said?
He said that he had said a couple of ships that turn into
useless teacup
tin cans. Oh 10 Yeah, it's our destroyer and then one from the
UK have turned into useless tin cans.
The US missile destroyers zoom boats and high tech destroyer of
the British Royal Navy Duncan have turned into useless tin
cans due to China. microchips made in China have put the
vessels out faction they had been installed on board. Before
that, then USD USD software had unexpectedly gone out for the
world passing through the Panama Canal. That had not been for the
first time. First of all there had been detected The delicacy
and proportion than being in Florida the ship faced technical
problems yet again, the dunk contest where which cost $1.2
billion get into the same situation during NATO's
maneuvers. As it turned out, the Chinese killer chips are to be
blamed
the Chinese killer chips. What? Yes.
They are good. That's what we're going to talk about on the next
show. Yeah,
I thought you'd like that one. Stuff to dive into. And this is
Chinese news saying yeah, the Chinese killer chips are to
blame. Okay. I'm like, and it
builds in our fabs. I'm sure. China, yes, sir. So we knew this
was gonna happen. Why are we outsourcing anything? It's got
anything to do with the military to anyone in China? It doesn't
make any sense.
I don't know. It may be fake news. I don't know at this
point. I don't know. I'm guessing it's not fake news, but
I'll say it's kind of your beat so you wouldn't mind? I look at
it. Alright, everybody, thank you very much for tuning in
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