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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak,
Sunday, November 27 2016. This is your award winning gizmo
nation media assassination episode 881. This
is no agenda, feeling fuzzy
under a cloud of dust and broadcasting live from the
darkest corners on the internet. We're not on the list. In the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say a woman who
makes love with baseball MVP takes one for the team. I'm John
C. Dvorak.
Buzzkill.
I love how Plato was into baseball. Back in the day.
This is unknown fact. Yeah. But you know, I loved baseball.
He was all over the game the game all over it. I tell you.
Yeah. So the bit struck. Friday morning, John the mold, but the
bad mold here the one that puts me to sleep. Yeah, that puts me
to sleep.
Bowl is this that we know. I don't know what a mold. It is.
We are we have to listen to this. Yeah. Well, you just get a
good heat filter.
I have it. I have everything got ozone blast, and I got
everything. I can't stop it.
It must be a very must be very susceptible. This minute,
minute. Amount
of mold. Yeah, I'm probably very I'm probably very susceptible to
that. Yeah.
So anyway, so there's Friday, I pretty much was sleeping all
day. Like what's going on? It took me hours to figure it out.
Oh, I know what's going on? It's the damn mold. Oh, crap.
Old. Yeah. Yeah. So where do we start today?
Well, first of all, this is where you go. I'm
sorry. No, I'm sorry. We do have a place to start. I'm sorry. My
mistake. The following podcast
contains news that is fake. Unlike your anal leakage, which
is real. Listener discretion
is advised. All right. I'll get back to that. I have a I have a
weather report because I like to bitch about this sort of thing.
Yeah. It's from last night where there's
more rain moving over the peninsula in the South Bay at
this hour, all being pushed by a deep blow up around reading. And
that means more showers through the early hours of Sunday
morning to one of the complete forecast just ahead. So what is
the actual
weather was Sunday morning? I got up at seven. It's Sunday
morning. Now it's nine in Sunday morning. Sunday morning.
Yeah, it's sunny.
It's sunny. In fact, the sun's coming into the office of
blinding me. It's so sunny.
This is an outrage. This guy is ridiculous. I should be fired.
He's not doing his job. But
he's the he's taking the cues from the weather. No, he wasn't
he was actually the the anchor. I just clipped it off saying
that the I know it's not going to be raining tomorrow morning.
And indeed it's not. There's no rain clouds on the horizon,
either. Like it's going to be raining in an hour or something
like no nothing. Well, it's a my only thing is I'm good for the
show. Oh, great. Thank you that's very helpful is something
that was was Obama or somebody going on about climate change.
And they were saying they now changed the whole meme to 99%.
On site. Well,
I have this clip, John. And I wasn't planning on rolling it
out here. But it is a part of the Ministry of truthiness
division of our of our show notes. And we might have since
it's about, we're talking about fake news, and you just brought
in the weather report. I actually have two clips that
seamlessly fold into that. Christiana Amanpour, who wrote
now she of course, he now works for CNN. She's a member of the
Council on Foreign Relations. She was speaking at the CPJ
which is the committee for protecting journalists committee
or commission, one of the two. committee or commission and she
was receiving an award.
Do you know about the why? It's the
the Benjamin Button Memorial Award?
Benjamin Button.
Sorry, the Burton Benjamin Memorial. So what is the Burton
Benjamin Moore Memorial Award?
I have no idea really dodging bullets. I'd never heard it.
Oh, yeah, exactly. If we don't qualify for these kinds of, you
know, fine awards, we'll never get an award ever. So she was
No, I'm not gonna be do you got to podcasting award I boy. Oh,
no, that's true. That's true, but not a journalistic award. So
this is the Peabody will get a Peabody anyone can get a Peabody
look at Richard Engel. Anyone can get that on a one on one. As
a Christianna unimportance, he has an acceptance speech, you
know, like a 1520 minute speech and I was able to pull a couple
of things from this because she is speaking to the elite news
media, the way they speak about everything. And she actually
opened up with what she felt was the most important story that
the journalists need to be covering and that is, as you
just touched on, it's climate change.
Like many people watching when I was a overseas, I admit that I
like them was shocked by the exceptionally high bar put
before one candidate, and the exceptionally low bar put before
another candidate. It also appeared that much of the press,
much of the media was tying itself in knots trying to
differentiate between balance between objectivity, neutrality,
and crucially, the truth. We cannot continue the old
paradigm. We cannot, for instance, keep saying, like it
was over global warming, where 99.9% of the science the
empirical fine watch.
Now remember, she's winning a journalistic award. John, this
is this is what makes it so great. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it gets
even crazier what she says homeless loves the sound of the
song, get them the whole bit here.
But warming, when 99.9% of the science, the empirical facts,
the evidence is given equal play with the tiny minority of
deniers.
And by the way, that's not even true. She's a liar. That's why
we pointed out on a recent PBS show where they did not have
anybody saying anything. No, it was just all one sided. Right?
But this is bull crap. Well, also the 99.9
with a very small bunch of dissenters. That's not true.
There's a 30,000.
Group strong. Minimum. Yeah, well, we already went over the
97 point of whatever it is thing, which was bowl craft, I
began with this become a meme. I mean, you know, these people
wanted people, the skeptics to take them seriously. Why do they
constantly lie about this?
Well, I have had thoughts about this, and what you're hearing
and you'll hear in the next clip, I want to finish this one.
First, you'll hear to the next clip, that the way journalists
operate, when they read something, when they even if
they haven't even seen a video of if it's a viral video, but
they read about it in The New York Times. That's the story.
You see, they don't need to go and investigate what the New
York Times apparently has already done. It'll become
apparent in these in the other two clips here. When we finish
this one up, let's go back and hear that fine statistic which
is just not even true, according to the official statement of
global warming. When 99 science the empirical evidence is even
equal play with the tiny minority of deniers. I learned a
long, long time ago, when I was covering the genocide. And this
was
actually very interesting what she's about to say here. So she,
if you really listen to what she said, she learned something a
long, long time ago. She tells us what she learned, which kind
of makes me think she was complicit
a long, long time ago, when I was covering the genocide and
ethnic cleansing in Bosnia, never to equate victim and
aggressor never to create a false moral or factual
equivalence. Because then if you do particularly in situations
like that, you are party and accomplice to the most
unspeakable crimes and consequences.
Did she do something wrong? She does what you say
that she was a partaker in a trust
and that is a convoluted anecdote isn't how to play it
again. I had to listen more carefully try one more time I
do particularly in situations like that. You our party. I'm
sorry, we roll it back a little more. Here we go. So never to
create a false moral or factual equivalence. Because then if you
do particularly in situations like that you are party and
accomplice to the most unspeakable crimes and
consequences. So I believe in being truthful, not neutral, or
what
do you think happened there? She did something bad that's what I
that's, that's my takeaway from it. Yeah. Okay. Now let's listen
to a little bit more from her. Now. Remember, this is a
prestigious award, apparently a bit looks like a big gala, Gala,
gala Gala. If she added lager loved them. galas. Yeah, she had
tons of jewels on jewels, jewels, and yeah, it looked like
it looked high end. Let's put it that way. Now. Okay. So again,
this is from the Benjamin Button award, acceptance speech.
Christianna poor. This is the what I call the meme Fest and
you listen to this, you think, oh my goodness, these people
just as long as someone they trust has reported it, then
that's the story and they take it from there. We have
to accept that we have had our lunch handed to us by the very
same social media that we have so slavishly been devoted to
truth. The winning candidate did a very savvy and run around us,
oh, well, no,
they he bypass the gatekeeper. Well, this will
not stand and used it to go straight to the people this is
not okay. Combined with the most incredible development ever,
which is the tsunami of fake news.
And hold on, I gotta play a jingle. The tsunami of fake
news, John, it's not just a little fake news. It is a
tsunami of fake news. You read that? Thank you, Greg Davies
forgot to try to do him on the last show. With his ping pong
ball. Here we go find
with the most incredible development ever, which is the
tsunami of fake news, aka lies, oh, somehow people could not
would not recognize factcheck or disregard these lies. One of the
main writers of these false news sites, these articles these lies
says, Wait, who could that be? That people are getting dumber?
And just passing fake reports around without fact checking.
And we now need to ask whether technology has finally outpaced
our human ability to keep up?
Yeah. Why don't you read? Ted Kaczynski is little manuscript.
Facebook needs to step by step ah, advertisers need not to
advertise on these obviously fake news sites, some of which
they know are just they get lots of clicks. So they get lots of
money,
complete misunderstanding of the business there. And we'll roll
that back for a second. She asserts that advertisers should
not advertise on those fake news sites. Not only do they often
know that they're fake news sites. But the clicks generate
lots of money. No, no, maybe for the sites who are hosting the
ads, but not the advertisers themselves. They are hoping to
sell products
or other services. Here Did you hear that?
It was very interesting. She doesn't tell us a good catch.
Because I didn't hear it but I think she was a leap of faith.
It was one of those things where she says one thing that meant
another No, I think makes her fake news broke proposition.
Yeah, he's fake nose eyes
on these obviously fake news sites, some of which they know
are just they get lots of clicks so they get lots of money. No.
Wild go Neem, who was one of the fathers of the Arab Spring, so
called social media revolution. Now says quote, the same medium
that so effectively transmits a howling message of change also
appears to undermine the actual ability to make that change.
Social media amplifies the human tendency to bind with one's own
kind. Yeah, it tends to reduce complex social challenges to
mobilizing slogans that reverberate in echo chambers of
the likeminded rather than engage in persuasion in dialogue
and to reach for consensus.
Thank you for deconstructing how social media works.
Hate speech, hey untruths appear alongside good intentions and
truths. Now the question is, which is which? So I feel that
right now we face an existential crisis, a real threat to the
very relevance and usefulness of our profession. Now, more than
ever, I genuinely believe that we need to recommit to real
reporting across a real nation and a real world in which
journalism and democracy are in mortal peril.
You know, what you need for that? On import, you need clicks
and money, something that news business doesn't have, including
by foreign powers like Russia? Oh, there it is, hey, to churn
out into place the news. They hack into democratic systems.
Now,
what is it with the word hack? That whenever someone say you
can, you can set your clock on this? Whenever someone says
hack,
hack, hack, hack? Listen,
they hack into Pac Pac?
Why is that? If you notice this,
I like to say it is one of those hard K It's very, that's a it's
a catchy word.
Yeah, those these lies in many of our press. They hack into
democratic systems, just here is they're accused of, but also
now, allegedly, and crucial democratic experiences that are
going on Germany and France and elsewhere in Europe, whether
they're hacking the democratic experiences, this will not
stand.
Hell is she saying?
No, but I send my pants. Here's the
last one short clip. And this is this really wraps it up where
you will, you'll see that when the news elite get together this
is what they do is that they just believed in their own they
have their own echo chamber. They really do. And here's the
end of these meetings. I want you to I want you to literally
effect I want you to talk about that after this clip. So here
she is now now. She is going to tie into the the old right NPI
conference where six people are going hail Trump and now she has
not seen the video. This is what makes it fascinating. This
reporter who has not seen the video is going to tell you How
atrocious this moment was based upon really her reading about
it, I presume in the New York Times or The Washington Post
something that she deems to be an authority. Have
you read you must all have read about the Heil victory meeting
not far from the White House in Washington this weekend? We must
be doing many, many stories about the dangerous right? The
dangerous rise of the far right, not just here, but also across
Europe. And since when did Neo Nazism anti semitism stop being
a crucial litmus test in the United States?
So there you go. She says, I'm sure you read about this
horrible atrocity. I'm sure you all read it, because she read
it. She didn't see it
didn't do much work to see it. I don't understand that. I know
that you're bringing it up as a point, I think it is a point. I
don't understand why you just don't look at these damn videos.
I don't understand how hard can it be? You can do a search at
you. It's not hard to find these. They're not by the way, I
will say this. The way YouTube organizes stuff is crap. I mean,
if you really want to find something, you don't know how to
do this search properly, you'll never find it. They don't do
date order. They don't do newest to oldest, they don't do
anything like that. You have to have a bunch of keywords in
there that find this thing. But anyone who's a professional
journalist should be able to do it. I don't know why they don't.
It's somehow they saw that you somebody should have been in the
audit, who saw it and said, hey, you know, there's no there
there? Oh, yeah,
that would have made me feel better. That tell me about these
meetings about these. You were saying that you've been there.
And this is all this is really this?
Chamber journalists, any group of journalists and editors they
were like a built in hierarchy. And then it's like these
meetings always have it is an echo chamber. Exactly. They
always they're all very liberal, the whole operations are all
liberal. And hierarchies. What's interesting because it's like
you have these these especially in the bigger meetings, the
editors and the end of the managing and executive editors
Editor in Chief, those are the big three in a newspaper and
they're all like you know hanging out with each other and
talking about the business and and you know what, we're how
we're gonna go forward. And then you have the troops which are
all the journalists that work for a living are either corner
orders or staff reporters or court not too many
correspondence, which are the
agents of change John agents. And
they these guys are all just all progressive all of them. Yeah,
with very few exceptions, there's maybe one or two and
they you see them, they're hanging out the guys who are the
more conservative members of the media, which are very few show
up and they kind of they all know each other. There's like if
all five of them in a group of 200, right? Well, they all
gather together whenever I don't know what we're gonna do, or
just it's terrible, right. And everyone's lockstep and they're
just exactly what you said. So it's a, it's a feeding frenzy of
what do we and they all think they own the place, and they
can't do crap. I mean, if you look at the last newsletter I
sent out, which was a good one, I liked it a lot. That was
really good. All the covers of an eight daily news and you have
been stuff Trump is through because he criticized McCain.
Trump is done because he did this. He'll never be President,
my
favorite news guy favorite Trump is Hitler of my favorite.
Trump is Hitler was bound to be in there Monday. But if you look
at all these, these, these assertions that this is the
problem that you had with David Brooks on the PBS show, right,
right. The guy doesn't know what he's done. They have no clue.
They are so removed from society, that they have no idea
what they're talking about. This is a business. I say it all the
time. This is a business that has so much insight that they
didn't even see their own demise. That great. This is a
business where you said in a meeting where they guy admitted,
managing
up No, no, I'll tell you the story. This was 1995 or 1996. We
went to see the Tribune Company in Chicago. And we sat there and
they were like, well, we've got everything under coal control.
We've got the Storify system, whatever that was called, was a
number that was like something yet, vignette. Thank you. Yeah.
Wow. We've got the vignette system. We're all good to see
bitten. You know, what's happening. As far as I
understand your business, you make money mainly on classified
ads. And have you seen this thing called Craigslist? We
believe that they're going to eat your lunch there. So you've
got to come up with other ways. Maybe starting on Craigslist
would be an idea. But okay, whatever you want to do. You got
to do something. And there was a Yeah, have you seen this
building? The Tribune Company has been around for over 100
years.
Now there's that but there's also the meeting we had in San
Francisco with the with the Chronicle with Hearst and they
admitted, the editor admitted that they had been all Ferd
Craigslist the entire product, there was shit. Yes, you're
right. What's his name comes in. I can't remember the guy who
runs it by the name of Craig Craig Craig Newmark, Craig Craig
Newmark walks in and says, Look what I've done. Do you guys want
it, we'll just split it or whatever. And they said, do ads,
we don't need you. That is the most that is the classic digital
people that are trying to tell us how to think and what our
opinion should be like. And that's the kind of decisions
that they make.
Well, let's,
well you know what I then I'll just fill out this first, the a
block with more of this since I think we're on a on a roll here.
Let me give you the opinion of another elitist Andrea Mitchell,
who somehow was Was she always a journalist? That was where did
she come from? Actually, I'd have to look it up. You might
want to check it once you want to check the book of knowledge.
Oh, we play this as her version and her take on the hill. The
Hill Trump
supporters of Donald Trump's election and the alt right
movement gathered in Washington this weekend at the Reagan
Building a government facility to celebrate with a white
supremacist speech and echoes of signature language from Nazi
Germany, as uncovered by the Atlantic magazine. Some members
of the audience then jumped to their feet, you can see this
with arms extended, and Atlantic reporter presences he heard some
shouting Heil, in German, not hail the translation in English,
NBC News was not present to independently confirm what
happened, Jonathan. We've never seen anything like this in an
election cycle. There has been plenty of white supremacist
stuff out there. You track it all the time. Yeah. But this is
pretty noteworthy. It's not part of Donald Trump's transition or
administration and creation. It's an independent support
group. But let's just translate for people when he says as
Europeans when he talks about my struggle, yep, that's my income.
Okay, it's my income gotcha course, my struggle is my
income.
Wow, that's a borderline Clip of the Day,
I'll take that. I'll take a board. Alright, so there's kind
of a new beat that I'm trying to work on. And I'll need to undo a
lot of help from the producers, because it's very time
intensive. What is happening with podcasts in particular, is
we have a lot of journalistic podcasts, which are created by
people who do real mainstream work or what they would consider
real journalism. And they go on podcasts, and they let down
their guard and they start talking the way they really feel
and the way they talk in the newsroom. And this is this gives
us some of the best deconstruction moments I feel
that we can get. Because then you hear their hubris. You hear
their arrogance, you hear their elitism, and quite honestly, the
globalist view of the world is so time intensive part of it is
of course, listen to all these shitty podcasts and believe me,
a lot of them are pretty crap.
The New York Times has a podcast. Let me see what it's
called here. Yeah, they have a pot of the worst. Yeah, it's
called it's, it's called the run up
the run up. And
this particular episode, I pulled a couple of quotes. It's,
this isn't this will give an example of what I'm trying to
do. Some of its good some of its okay. But if you really listen
is it's quite disturbing to hear these people talk to Maggie
Haberman, and I guess she's a she's a star reporter for the
New York Times. Then you have Ross, what's his name? Stafford.
What's his name? Stafford. Some opinion guy opinion columnist.
I don't know any but opinion columnist named Ross.
And then as Don't worry, it doesn't matter as a host
Michael. Okay. So what they're talking about is the visit
Donald Trump brought to the New York Times. And they were they
were all three in the room. And they're going into and they also
have clips kind of meta meta, because they're talking about
when Trump was there, the whole event was recorded. So they play
some clips of the event, what they're talking about. And of
course, we're meta on top of that, playing clips of them
paying playing clips. So it may get a little confusing. I know.
You did that wrong, man. This is how it goes.
All right. So Maggie Haberman talking about to Trump and his
general, just his demeanor. He came
into our editorial board meeting many, many months ago, and many,
many ended it. He repeatedly went on and on about how it was
great honor. So I mean, I do think that there is to the
extent that Trump is easily defined by a lot of many of them
conflicting impulses, many of them dating back to I think,
decades ago. He is still the boy from Queens who looks at the
times as sort of the the crown jewel, and wants a level of
respect. I don't think he would have been here if he didn't want
that and the meeting was at his request. Trump was actually
quite calm considering the various states I've seen him in.
This is not the first time I been in a room with him. So I
have a comparison point. I mean, he started out a little bit
defensive. I thought he had his arms folded as he was sitting
down Heisey very tightly.
The metaphor that came to mind was of a, an unhappy kid. Yeah,
sort of waiting for something really bad to happen.
Here this. I love these people. So there's that's what they
thought it looked like a little kid. Why did they say petulant
child that was such an issue when it was shot when it was
said about Obama
as a petulant child before us. Do
you remember that? We dealt with it appropriately. Who was it?
Was it Romney or someone who called Obama a petulant child
and everyone's like, racist, racist?
Does that mean Boy, don't you remember that? Yeah, Begley
was sort of getting ready to endure punishment, right? And
yes, Ryan's doled out the punch of light up as time went on, he
sort of got that off his chest. And then he talked about
essentially the greatest hits of the primary and the general
election and his rallies and how he had captured the mood. And he
just felt it with Michigan. And he had added a final stop. And
he were that Hillary Clinton thought she was going to lose
Michigan. So that's how they did it. It was really fascinating,
really fascinating.
Do you know these kinds of people John, talking like this
was really fascinating was just so awesome. Here we go over
there back behind many behind their scenes. This is now this
was a little tidbit which did not make it into the the article
about Trump. And I thought this was very newsworthy,
but to your point, that's another impulse that was on
display in this meeting, which is Trump is I think I described
him as sort of like the hair salon gossip. During the
campaign. I mean, there is this, you know, did you hear quality
to him? And he said something about, you know, there was one
thing that Obama is very afraid of, you know, I'm not gonna say
what
it is he wanted us to ask ourselves what
was really enhanced? So just to just to further explain that
episode, when Trump said, there's one thing Barack Obama
told me that he's, he's scared of and we should all be scared
of, but I won't tell you. And then someone followed up and
said, Oh, no, please tell us and he said, No, you'll have to ask
more. where's the where's the journalism?
That I'm interested in? is, what could it be?
I don't know scabies. I have no idea.
I find that I just found it peculiar that if a presidential
of President Elect said that, to me, The New York Times would be
like, Okay, I'm gonna go ask. I see no evidence of the masking
for Irish
tonight. Um, but it was actually a when you hear a little later,
a clip I have, which I'll probably introduce in this
segment, because of where we're going. Yeah. It's all explained.
Okay.
Now, this was a little bit of the podcast that I found
interesting as they are now like journalism students, they're so
interested in each other and how they ask the question, and, you
know, how did you feel when you engaged in what was the what the
feeling like when he didn't answer your question? It's
really, it's creepy. Can
I ask you, when you about the experience of asking the
President Elect Donald Trump a question? In this meeting, and I
watched you, I really, I watched you because I was kind of
marveling I was trying to think how long you would go how you'd
frame the question. Oh, you're marveling
at what you were doing just
marveling at your question style? You've already asked
a question. I know. But I still was really interested in what
you what you asked for and how you were about to ask it. And it
was essentially, can you get something as mammoth as an
infrastructure project through this Republican Congress? And
what did he What did he say?
What did you say John? Nothing. Oh, I thought you said
something. Um, so
the answer your question and like, what's the overall feeling
you got of of the interaction?
I mean, the feeling? Well, the interaction started with, you
know, we were all identifying ourselves. And he said something
to the
feeling did you get I know, it's, it's like, how did you
feel? When you asked that question where you were like, if
you were a tree, what kind of a tree would you be in this
context?
This is exactly what I wanted to hear you say? It's so sickening.
What did you feel when you asked the question was so awesome as a
journalist?
Well, the interaction started with, you know, we were all
identifying ourselves. And he said something to de identified
myself. And he sort of gave me a look and said something to the
effect of, you know, I know who you are, which again, sort of
confirms just the sense you have that Trump takes the New York
Times seriously and takes our criticism, bipartisan criticism,
since I'm obviously a conservative columnist that he
takes it to heart not necessarily in positive way,
because we're awesome, judging by his Twitter feed, but it does
matter to him. So there's that in terms of the question. I
mean, what I was trying to tease out and he's obviously not going
to get into this is less the specific infrastructure bill
question and more just this broad conflict divisions between
Trumpism as an economic philosophy and Paul Ryan's
economic philosophy.
Now notice that they the word Trumpism is now a word they use
internally
which to I don't know, just
good catch you find
that interesting that they're calling that that way. Let me
see. Oh, okay. Now this. Again, I don't think I saw this
reported. This is about Steve Brin. And of course, the New
York Times ban and I'm sorry, the New York Times has a huge
issue with with the alt right, obviously because they're evil.
They're Nazis. Heil, Heil. Heil Trump.
They're doing stories in New York Times not doing right. And
then of
course, it's impossible for the president elect to reconcile
Breitbart with the with his views on on the alt right is
none of this makes sense. And what what this band and this guy
is, I mean, he, he's, he's no good. He's no good.
There is a, a fairly complicated portrait of Steve Bannon that
somebody can can paint. There's, there have been complaints about
him. But there's, you know, from I think, from some past
employees and so forth, but there's not a whole lot
of them, so forth. Now, listen, this is very interesting what
she says, yeah,
there's not a whole lot of hard evidence or video or whatever of
him. There's nothing.
Like, the old
farts, shaking my fist at the television,
I'll give you a second to shake her
video or whatever of him making anti semitic statements. A lot
of this comes from these divorce filings from long time ago.
Oh, there you go. So all this anti semitic stuff. There's no
proof. She's saying the New York Times is saying there's no
proof. How come they don't write them?
Because it doesn't fit them narrative. I've been watching
Bannon speeches. Yeah,
I've seen one. This guy is really
he's a he's a financial guy. And I think and I was been thinking,
Why is Trump even have him extremely intelligent,
insightful, Goldman Sachs guy who knows the ropes. And he
knows what's going on with the economy. This is what this is
about. It's got nothing to do with anti semitism or anything
else. Go listen to some of his old speeches. He did a couple
around 2011 2012 that were pretty fascinating. No, there's
no anti there's nothing in there about a brace or anything. It's
just about the economy is in there to be the go to guy when
the economy collapses in which it will do invariably during
this Trump first term.
It is fascinating to me that a couple of podcasters have to
break it down to understand what he's doing in the cabinet in the
in the White House as advisor. Where's the New York Times can't
seem to come up with that, Jim. I mean, here's his background is
well known. And yes, Goldman Sachs, you know, when you
Yes. And when you listen to his speeches, especially the ones
done around the 2020 2012 timeframe. He makes it he does a
long exposition at the beginning about the economy, where it
stands, where the trillions that we owe, how it's gonna break
down how the bond market is gonna go when the bar saw that
when the bond market is gonna collapse. But he talks about the
bond market collapsing, he's about that. That's what he's
about. Do you know how not about what do people think he's doing?
They're
about they think he's infiltrating the old rights,
propaganda machine of fake news into the Trump administration.
Do you know how he made his money? In other words,
he made a lot of money being an investor and television shows
Yes,
and which one in particular? Seinfeld has right? He has a big
piece of that. I know if it's a big piece, but he has a piece of
everybody else who's got a lesser piece of the action,
because no one wants to touch the production. No one wanted to
touch it. And he said, and he was at Goldman Sachs, and he put
together some kind of deal as part of the deal. Of course, his
fee was he got a piece of the action on the back end, and
that's where he's making his money is beautiful. All right.
Right, Bart content, obviously,
wait for this. This is great.
A different matter. And so Trump is basically equating that,
once you save Breitbart content is can be
a different matter from matter. And so Trump is basically
equated Breitbart with the New York Times.
This golf hurts to some degree, I believe
so they cover what Yes, I think they don't like the
equivalencies? No, but it gets to the top of the pyramid.
Supposedly, there's nothing that's like nothing, nothing
like and by the way, I just did as an aside, in this clip, I've
been watching a lot of these
various kind of panel shows where they bring
New York Times reporters and then the New York Times ever
used to send a lot of people and the New York Times. Characters
I'd say 10 years ago were the Andrew Ross Sorkin types. The my
friend Markoff over in San Francisco is would be one of
these guys. And there's a bunch of other ones and they're New
York Times reporters, they come on, they wear the blue shirt,
the kind of the just those regimental tie of some sort.
They're very buttoned down here. they have a certain kind of a
look that used to have this small little Himmler glasses.
And they, they present themselves a certain way. The
more recent New York Times reporters are slobs, yeah. As
you're right, there was a woman on one of the shows, and she's
wearing like a black leather jacket. And she was she was not
even articulate. And she was from the New York Times, and I'm
noticing that the New York Times and everybody else is retiring.
The New York Times who is taking the reporters who are taking
over the New York Times are of a different style. And they're all
Hillary, they're worse than the ones that you're listening to
now.
Well, I think this this woman may be one of the new ones that
could be and listen to this tidbit, which again, I heard no
reporting on, and I think is quite bold times.
So they cover things.
They're a publication,
right, first of all, is is just a publication. And you know,
they cover stories like you cover stories now. They are
certainly a much more conservative paper to put it
mildly than the New York Times, but but Breitbart really is a
news organization that's become quite successful. And it's got
readers, and it does cover subjects that are the right but
it covers subjects of the less left also. I mean, it's pretty
big. It's a pretty big thing. And he helped build it into a
pretty successful news organization.
So there were there was that, and then he said, so
there was that there was that he can't stand it. So okay, so
there was that like, somehow things Breitbart is I didn't
jive.
So there was that. And then he said, If I had any thought that
Steve Bannon associated with the alt right at all, you know, and
he specifically said that, you know, I wouldn't hire him. I
mean, Bannon said earlier this year that Breitbart is a is a
platform for the alt right movement. So whether Trump knows
that specific fact, I doubt but Trump is very, very good at sort
of why didn't
you bring it up at the meeting,
wait for it
something and making it a reality, even if there are facts
that go against and
what I found so extraordinary at that moment, was that he, it was
this strangely, mild tempered effort at reconciliation, where
he said, if there's something about Steve Bannon that you
discover that somehow at odds with anything I'm saying, I want
you to call me I want you to tell me, No, I'll
tell you what, I know him very well. I will say this. And I
will say this, if I thought that strongly if I thought that he
was doing anything, or had any ideas that were different than
the ideas that you would think I would ask him very politely to
leave. But in the meantime, I think he's been treated very
unfairly. It's very interesting, because a lot of people are
coming to his defense right now. So by the way, if you see
something or get something where you feel that I'm wrong, and you
have some, I would love to hear it. Or you can call me or they
can call me
about that. I didn't hear that offer. I didn't hear of this.
This is great. What did they do?
They just told us in this little podcast at the Breitbart say, or
Bannon is a creep. Yeah. And he's like, he said, he's all
right, or whatever. Or the publication is, why didn't they
bring it up at the meeting? Or why don't they call him and tell
him? Hey, guess what?
Yeah. All right. No, good. That was
so fast. I mean, given the severity of the topic, and given
the number of subjects that Breitbart has covered in the
past, and how they've covered it. It was a bit of a strange
gesture. He's saying, Tell me, tell me if you notice something
that I probably could have noticed myself if I went online
and found it. And if you find it, send it to me, and I know
that
go online, but it's, they're already talking themselves out
of it. They're already talking like, well, you know, so you
saying, Well, call me if there's something that I couldn't have
found my No, he didn't say that. So there's anything you feel is
not in line with what I'm saying. Then, with regard to
Steve Bannon, I think he kind of implied anybody but okay.
Abandon then call me and we'll be you know, and if he does
something that is against what we stand for here, and will
politely ask him to go, but no, instead of that now, well, this
is ridiculous. And then just top it off with this last clip,
and that's what it Yeah, it's what he does to sort of make you
feel and you and I have talked, you described it on a previous
podcast you describe the experience of interviewing him
is very seductive. Do you remember that? Michael, when you
said that? You said it is very good?
I think I did. And Michael doesn't really want to remember
Yeah,
it's a very seductive experience. Trump is very good
at making you feel as if he's reaching out to you and bringing
you in and so that's what I took that gesture to mean to me that
gesture was you know what, I hear you I'm with you. And I'm
not I'm not foreclosing it. And this is a good faith thing. I
suspect that if somebody called him tomorrow with like five
examples, I don't think it would actually change much.
Why don't you give it a try?
Wow. What arrogance? Why? Why beer Did you okay
she said,
unbelievable. Yeah, unbelievable. Just unbelievable.
smugness it's, there's a bunch of I know there's a million
words we have any a list of words. Well, sanctimoniously
smug is our sanctimoniously smug see
someone gave me a term, sanctimonious
get. That's a British ism.
That's an urban addiction yet in the urban dictionary, a person
or conglomerate of two persons, who is so far up his or her own
or their own collective arsehole, their own mother wants
to heads British, their own mother wants to run them down.
The sanctimonious get takes pictures during a group holiday
then tries to charge for them, even though everyone else is
sharing pictures.
Okay, maybe not. Okay, well, that's still a good, good
phrase.
But let's go to something that's good jump today, because there's
a little explanation of the kind of lazy journalism we're talking
about here. Yeah. And in this particular thing, and this is
kind of an ask Adam. Oh, okay. All right. The Oxford I don't
know if you know, but the Oxford dictionary the Oxford boys, the
boys in the in the UK? Yeah. They have decided on their
phrase or word of the year. Yeah,
I think I know what it is. But what do you think it is? Is it
not post truth?
Nets? Well, we
talked about it the other day, but it's okay.
Um, okay. Well, I was gonna do a quiz. And he gave me a bunch of
potential words of truth to me.
Do you think the mode question Do you think I read the
Internet, but I wouldn't stumble across this nugget of
stuff I don't get every second of the day and then glued to it.
But let's, let's play this because this is the explanation
about post truth. And in it, they discussed modern
journalism, and how they and how they don't do any read. They
don't what you just played is exemplified by the definition of
post truth.
In the aftermath of media coverage of the US presidential
election campaign and Britain's vote to quit the EU. The Oxford
Dictionaries groups declared post truth to be its
international word of the year. Well, let's have a look at some
of the other linguistic trends from 2016.
The new world deserves a new word, post truth. It's Oxford
dictionary's word of the year, and you'd better get used to it.
It means Relating to or denoting circumstances in which objective
facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than
appeals to emotion and personal belief. Basically, emotion beats
truth. Here's an example.
Unprecedented bombing. Look what they've
been doing to eastern Aleppo, hundreds
of people were killed. Many have called
a genocide. These children are too young to know what it really
feels like to be safe.
Pulling at your heartstrings, rather than explaining a complex
reality is what post truth journalism seems to be about.
Most journalists and work in the corporate media don't have any
resources to do any kind of investigation, and in fact,
don't want to do any investigation.
They'd rather echo the lies of politicians as if they were the
truth. This, this has got us into situations like Libya, like
Iraq, like Afghanistan, and he's trying to scare us even more and
and grossed in the in the quagmire that he's Libya. So
he's the Syria. So we've destroyed countries based on
lies.
And this is gonna go on journalists who put this
together who put this together? That was RT nice. I
like it at the poll post. I didn't realize I never
interpreted post truth as for mainstream journalism. Now, it
makes a lot more sense.
Yes, like, and they would they went on his long piece they went
on to, to discuss the fact that the journalists don't have the
resources to do investigative reporting, and they don't really
have the desire. And I think when you just play proves it,
yeah, they haven't even got the desire to call trump up. When
you know that he comes in and they'll sit there because that's
where they're working. They're working out of the office, the
big building in Manhattan. Yeah. And they'll talk to him and then
this and then afterwards, they talk amongst themselves like
that little podcast and talk about things they could do or
they could have done or then do they'd rather just make it up as
they go along and just everybody wants to use it. But my thing
was was everybody wants to be a columnist
we you know what happens when when journalists pursue the path
of post truth they enter the the era of post profit is what's
going to happen
he said their dream that one up
that chat room gave it to me, I'll be honest, oh, that Chase
stole
from it. I didn't steal it.
They're producing for me.
It's producing.
Now I do have another thing. It's kind of an augment what
actually is part two of this is play. This is a little more or
is about the other meme. Okay.
Another new concept that's being used to describe our new reality
is filter bubble. You can become trapped in one by social media
when algorithms have selectively guessed what information you'd
like to see. But there are also way bigger bubbles than Facebook
ones take the bubble, the majority of us politicians,
media outlets and pollsters got themselves stuck in. During the
presidential election campaign, the idea of a Trump victory had
got completely filtered out. Of course, they all thought Clinton
would win. Which Republican candidate has the best chance of
winning the general election? Right now? Donald Trump today is
more likely to win
or a Clinton's gonna win in a landslide. We could be talking
landslide and liberal media. So upset, visibly upset about
Donald Trump's victory. You're awake,
by the way. You're not having a terrible, terrible dream. Also,
you're not dead and you haven't gone to hell. This is your life.
Now. This is our election now. It's real. It's real. It's real.
It's real. It's real. What if there
was a place where the unthinkable didn't happen? And
life could continue for progressive Americans just as
before?
Now there is welcome to the bubble. The bubble is planned
community of like minded free thinkers, and no one else. Well,
not
everyone got stuck in that bubble. And some of them got
their own word to
I was good that Saturday Night Live bubble. Pretty funny. That
was pretty funny. Well, me all along with this. Now we now of
course have proper not, you've probably seen this. Yeah. And by
the way, when
this is destroyed by the web before you go into this, because
I don't have really any clips on it. Maybe I have one. This is
the Washington Post. They ran with this. And Marty Baron is
the one who promoted Marty Baron is the executive editor I
believe of the Washington Post. And this is the most shameful
thing of the intercept. And there's a link in the show notes
cuz I send you that. Yeah, he did a takedown on this, but a
bunch of other people did to the Fortune magazine. This was a
shameful this was shameful fake news on the part of the
Washington Post, which is just doing this to an extreme. These
guys are killing themselves. This is Jeff Bezos.
Yeah. Anyway,
well, yes. You're gonna love this. So the Washington Post did
a long article about fake news, of course. And they had a
blacklist at a blacklist. The blacklist comes from Prop or
not.com, which stands for propaganda or not, and they have
the list now. I'm a little a little insulted that we're not
on the list, but okay. The the people
on there on the list are ridiculous. Yeah, Zero Hedge.
Zero Hedge how they on the list. Corbett Report.
Hey, you may not be your cup of tea, but not fake news.
Let's see. What else do we have? Yeah, just just the
Ron Paul.
Yeah. Ron Paul. Yeah, he's on the right parts on the list.
What what I found interesting, is if you look at if you look at
his website, then they have you know, frequently asked
questions. I guess it's under that. They have allies, you see.
So they talk a bit so they'll really say who they are. So we
don't know who's behind this. But they have the allies and
then their allies are Snopes says right here on the website.
Yes. Our allies are Snopes and belling cat. Okay. Well, you
could not have more anti Russian bloggers involved in you're
involved in your proper not? This whole thing is, I think
you're right is discussing the posts even linked the story to
this. This is really this has nothing to do your domain name
was just registered pretty much.
Yeah, a few months ago. I mean, the Washington Post obvious. I
mean, these that is the fake news operation. Not only that
piece was fake.
It's a McCarthyism. John is Neoma. McCarthyism.
Well, there are a lot of people who said that, but it's just a
black list. I mean, black lists, come and go. But well, it's
ridiculous. These guys, the British should be ashamed of
themselves. The new The Washington Post,
and RT RT is on the list. Aren't wars. So it really is about anti
Russia. And this does have consequences and it will have
consequences, far reaching consequences for Trump and his
announced plans, and the only guy who could tell us about that
is of course Professor Steve Cohen. Professor Emeritus of was
a he
should be on the list. She should say.
I'm surprised he's not actually. Here is what he believes the
challenges will be that Trump will have with Russia and
one issue on which Trump was very different from Mrs.
Clinton, and from the whole foreign policy establishment was
on our relationship with Russia. We now this is me speaking not
Trump, are in a cold war, much more dangerous than the 40, the
40 year Cold War that we thought it ended. There are three places
where Russia and America could very easily, suddenly be in a
hot war. That's the Baltic regions that Ukraine and that's
Syria. Trump has said that he wants to do something about it
to improve it. What he said is very fragmentary, but very
different from what other people have said. He says he wants to
work with President Putin. He said he thinks it would be
great. If Russia and the United States United for years to fight
terrorism in Syria. He hasn't said anything about Ukraine. But
these are pressing issues. If Trump were to move, and he
shouldn't do this, publicly, he should begin privately. But if
he were to move toward a detente, as we used to call it,
a reduction of conflict in the relationship with Russia, and to
open cooperation, let's say in Syria, he will find himself
opposed by a fierce and powerful pro Cold War, coalition,
Democratic and Republican and including the media here in the
United States, he will have to fight very hard. The other side
of that story is, is that foreign policy is the one area
where an American president can do things pretty much on his
own. He doesn't need congressional support unless he
wants a treaty. The question is, Is Trump really going to do it?
And you might ask, Is President Putin ready for this? I think,
so let's but whether Trump will now move, we'll say, because
remember what else happened? Sophie, it's very bad. On the
one hand, it was good, that there was a little discussion of
Russia in our presidential campaigns. But the discussion
was terrible. It was poisonous. The Clinton campaign indulged in
Neo McCarthyism, they accused Trump and anybody who thought
Trump had a good idea about Russia policy of being puppets
of the Kremlin. This is this is beyond disgusting. We went
through this many years ago in the United States, and damaged
our country very badly. I don't know, the poison is in our
political bloodstream. Will it go away with Trump's victory? I
doubt it. Therefore, Trump needs supporters in this country who
did not vote for him.
So that's what you get when you
know, it's going to be very difficult. And it seems to me
that the playbook has just been pulled back out, right down to
the youtubes. Flying again, if you followed this in the news. I
mean, we know one crash remember, we talked about it?
Right? Let's start this started a while ago before? I mean, the
YouTubes flying around? Yeah. Why do you choose what to say?
No, I
think I think for one reason, one reason only. It's a cold,
it's the dragon lady. It's the new you to then it's, I think
it's just to give an image of the old Cold War. I mean, either
that, or I did look to see if there were some big buy if
Lockheed needed to sell a whole bunch of them, because this is
what the drones are supposed to do. They're supposed to provide
this, this aerial support. But for some reason, we've got the
YouTubes flying again, and the only reason I can think is
related to imagery. The YouTubes are flying again. Yes, Russia
Cold War Ha, bad.
Now, my understanding is they have their outfitting YouTubes
with the
robots.
Oh, I didn't know. Well, we'll find out. Our guys will tell us.
So do you mean turn them into drones?
Yeah. Because it goes so high. Yeah. 70,000 feet? 80,000 feet?
Yeah, it's crazy. You can't do that with just a drone. They
know it's not enough.
Then this short, little clip clip from Colin, very
disturbing, key. He has an idea of what may be playing out
before the new administration comes into the White House,
regarding Obama and Putin what kind of deal they might make.
And I think we should take this one serious Obama
and Putin and their advisors because neither man proceeds
without consultation with his military intelligence and
political AIDS. And yes, there is a politics around Putin. He
has a problem politically in Moscow. In a word, the ultra
nationalists are convinced that Putin is about to sell out
Ukraine in return for Syria. With Obama. They have this view
that Putin is not a resolute leader, and that he will give up
their ethnic country men and women in Donbass in Ukraine in
return for protecting Assad and Russia roll in Syria, that will
not happen. But that's a real politics in Moscow.
I like that now he says it's not gonna happen, but I don't know.
I didn't know No. And I didn't know that Putin had some
pressure going on regarding that. So that's what people
think of Putin. You rarely hear these things rarely.
Never hear him and call and they keep them off the air.
Actually, oh, I have the I have the YouTube clip here. This was
on CNN. I'm telling you something going on with this.
They got special access. This is supposed to be this top secret
spy plane. But no, CNN is in the cockpit. They got a lot of stock
footage too, you know, but they gave him the stock footage, a
whole piece fighting
ISIS in a spacesuit. We can only identify the pilot by his first
name Captain Steven, and by his callsign meathead. He's about to
account on a high altitude reconnaissance mission
technique, your best spy plane, we weren't given rare access to
the preparations launch and landing have one of these highly
secretive missions that have a clear objective, one of the
pilots tells me
with the YouTube we're able to get out there find those guys
travel, get that information back to the fighter types, the
bomber types, so that way, when they go out there, they've got
the best Intel best information about where they where they are,
and then obviously do what needs to be done.
The YouTube can fly extremely high within 70,000 feet and get
pictures and other information to forces on the ground very
fast. It's a Cold War airplane flying since the 1950s. But its
cameras and sensors have been completely upgraded. With its
many technological upgrades. The YouTube dragon lady remains one
of America's main assets in the information gathering effort
against ISIS. But of course, intelligence gathering happens
on many levels. And much of it happens through drones like this
Global Hawk, which patrols in the skies above Iraq and Syria
almost every day. The information from these
surveillance platforms is key to helping jets from the US led
anti ISIS coalition strike their targets and supportive Forces
Combat in the group on the ground in places like Mosul in
Iraq. But while the YouTube can soar higher than almost any
other plane, it's pretty hard to land. We're in a chase car that
speeds after the jet helping to guide the pilot to the ground
after an almost 10 hour mission. Nice John. Feeling himself out
of the cockpit Captain Stephen says he believes that you too is
making a major impact
things that we can do while we're up there, as well as how
often we're up there to be thanks to the maintenance guys.
We
are costly up there, providing support for those who need the
most.
And the need for the YouTube services will remain in high
demand. While ISIS may be losing ground, the group remains both
deadly
and elusive. To me that sounded like a sales job. And it didn't
sound right now. No,
there was a Brian the gay Crusader actually alerted me to
that and said This is weird. This is a strange strange goings
on.
Yeah, I'm not quite sure
to say too many crazy things to say in there the things from the
50s but now it's all upgraded is ready to sell. You can buy one
too. That's a must be
Buy Now while stocks last. That's what I thought this time.
And I know what it sounds like. I mean, it sounds to me also the
report itself makes it sound like a useless piece of old
gear.
Is it Lockheed jet month? Are they doing the? Like Texas Truck
Month open
house? I'm not sure maybe.
There we go. When we're talking about Russia. We got gang.
Everybody, we have the best Archie reporter on the case at
the State Department guy in ticket con. And she has a
question specifically for John Kirby. This is the clip that I
started to play the other day and it was the wrong clip.
And you lost it. Yeah, yeah.
All right. This is about the NATO build up. So more Russia.
And while she gets the typical brush off from Kirby, you know,
Matt Lee actually came to her defense.
Do you have a question? On your? Yeah, go ahead, guys. Today, you
said Russia's deployment of missiles to its cleaning up
Kaliningrad region is destabilizing to European
security. Do you think the largest buildup of NATO forces
near the Russian border since the end of the Cold War? And the
deployment of the missile defense system which Russia sees
as designed to contain Russia have in no way contributed to
the environment in? She's pointing to these things that's
contributing to his actions. Do you think those those things
have in no way contributed to the environment in which the
sense of alliances it's always been defensive alliance? It
remains a defensive alliance. There's no reason why Russia
should view NATO in any way shape or form as a threat. Now,
if they do, they can speak to that not me, do you think do you
think that troop build up in near Russia and the defense
system near Russia helped lower tensions with Russia, again,
NATO is a defensive alliance always has been. There's no
reason for anybody in Russia to feel threatened by
NATO's to build up
military activities or preparations. I will tell you
just in terms of recent months and years, there would have been
no reason for NATO to advance and and commit additional
capabilities on the European continent to include American
capabilities had it not been for Russia's move in Ukraine.
Okay. Because Russia's fault, always Russia's fault. So they
they did the build up in Ukraine. And that's why we are
defensively just putting all these missiles on Russia's
border. Okay. And Matt Lee came to a rescue to some degree
to briefly done the missile defense in the Europe question.
Yeah. And this is something that has actually not at first for a
year, and I just can't wait here. So yeah, but I'm not going
to be a rambling thing I just want if
you guys, I love how he says that. But I'm not going to
ramble, like I usually do. But as I've been bugging me for a
year. Alright, so you can hear everyone in the press growing
really madly. You
guys sold this it? So the whole idea of missile defense, it was
always pointed. Even the last administration always pointed to
Iran with the threat. If and then the Russians, the Russians
shouldn't worry about it. But if the Iran deal is such a huge
success, as you say it is. Why is it still necessary because
Iran
continues to pursue ballistic missile capabilities.
He's putting him in a great trap here. So wait a minute, let me
if I understand the whole deal with Iran was they wouldn't have
nuclear capability. Who are these missiles for them? Because
they're always for Iran. But we have the deal. How Why do we
need Iran? Well, because they're a holes. You sure it's not for
Russia?
You guys got into the deal that the ballistic missile, you
bragged about it? And at the time that you kept the ballistic
missile right about anything that oh, well, you said it was a
success that you got the bullet that that would say that
sickness, I
would say that's facts, sharing, bragging.
I was just facts sharing about my huge launch on
ballistic missile Orion
to pursue ballistic missile capabilities. And and so we
continue to believe in the value of missile defense.
Days say that they are still banned from doing ballistic
missile activity, right for eight years, seven years now.
It is certainly part of the deal, but will be but we have to
Well, if the if the if the missile defense system that you
want to put in Europe is aimed at only Iran, why would you not
want to make it not necessary? And why wouldn't you have pushed
hard to keep the ballistic missile restrictions in place?
I'm not going to read it again.
Do we continue to leave our defense on the continent because
Iran continues to pursue ballistic missile capabilities?
Yeah, sure. We have an ISO of a Kirby's brain during this
question.
Anybody during this after the Russian girl made her
commentary? And he went on about the NATO being defensive and
they never done anything that was what would do. They would
bring up the Libya thing, which was a NATO led coalition. Its
defensive on the crap out of Libya and destabilize the area.
That was NATO.
I said John C. Dvorak for press corps. What I say,
of course, of course, was that defensive. Was Libya attacking
Italy?
It was well it was they were they were attacking interests.
Interests. John, they weren't Yes, they were. Oh, yes, they
were at interests, the United States and Ally interests,
namely the French who begged us to go in there and kill Gadhafi.
That's what
was what we did. We did what we did, but I don't see that being
defensive.
The whole it's not defensive. I have this is the last one I got.
While we're on NATO. This is Yen's what's his name? The NATO
guy. Ian's true murder, robbery. Yeah, interesting little
thoughts on NATO. NATO Secretary General says the time is right
for Europe to boost defense spending. Jens Stoltenberg was
speaking ahead of a meeting of EU foreign ministers in
Brussels. The former Norwegian Premier said US President Elect
Donald Trump was right to ask Europeans to do more.
Oh, really, the strong NATO
is important for Europe, but it's also important for the
United States. He also pointed out the importance of increased
defense spending that Europeans are stepping up their efforts to
invest more in defense and I absolutely agree with him. That
has been the message from American leaders, US leaders for
many years. And the good thing is that we now see that
Europeans are actually investing more in defense.
Trump called into question NATO's collective defense pacts
during his campaign, casting doubt over whether the US would
step in and help those who are not meeting the 2% of GDP
defense spending target. Current commander in chief Barack Obama
has moved to reassure Europeans that Trump will honor the
country's NATO commitments. The Alliance was set up after the
Second World War, and has since become a cornerstone of the
global security architecture. But currently, only five
countries meet NATO's own defense spending benchmarks.
Oh, okay. Gee, maybe Trump had a point.
I got some for the Red Book, though. I know we can put in
there. All right. What Yeah, with the, you know, with the
NATO issues with Europe, starting its own army, they're
still just trying to vote on the headquarters. Here in the Red
Book. I can tell you right now Europe, and it's kind of
interesting. In light of the SNL skit, Europe will receive Iron
Dome
to protect them from evil Russia.
The same Iron Dome that apparently is in place in
same crappy Iron Dome, it barely works anymore. If it works at
all. Yeah, in Israel, they can barely say, protect one city
sale at Iron Dome.
So it sounds like a sales Bonanza to me.
You hit the button or you said yeah, maybe it's gonna be a
tough sell. I don't think they're that stupid. Well, I'm
glad you're up. I would like an entry in the book.
I'd say I just wrote it down. Okay.
And I put I put a smiley face. Okay. Well, with that out one
last clip before we dig a break. That still has some to do with
this because I just want to remind people that most of what
we witnesses is historically, you know, it's not new. No. And
there was a very interesting and there's a quote within this
little little spiel, this is John Dickerson, the guy on CBS
does Face the Nation, who I like he's a very calm guy seems to be
pretty neutral. And when he does, he doesn't get Obviously
he's not slanting things too much one way or the other. And
he did a book. He's done a book recently. I don't know the name
of it, but he was being interviewed on C span book TV,
to told me to listen to so I did. Yeah. And this is a very
interesting the clip is that he made they're talking about
Andrew Jackson, and apparently is a very, there's a lot of
correlation between Andrew Jackson and Donald Trump. Yes,
I've been reading these things, too. Yeah, this is like a meme
going around. I think this guy I think Dickerson's got a lot to
do with it, because it's in his book it is. But there's one
little gotcha in here that we're one little Zinger in here that I
thought was well worth repeating and then listening to unless
listen to this.
Back and forth. Yeah, I
still don't know what the clip is, though. With Clarence page.
It's with Clarence pages called Jackson Trump parison. Gotcha
reserve, or it's the Washington lawmakers or it's the mortgage
backed security, hucksters. All are people whose bad decision
making savaged the lives of people who weren't a part of the
initial decisions that were made. And so that when I'm
reading about Jackson and his feeling about the National Bank,
you really feel you. It feels very, very, very modern, in
terms of the anger at people who are making economic decisions
that are ruining your life.
I'll put his running Donald Trump's speeches there. The
language keeps coming back in these different periods of time.
But what does that say about the American character?
Well, you know, it's funny, you mentioned, Donald Trump and
Andrew Jackson and Andrew Jackson said by their abuse,
they shall elect me, which is basically talking about the
writers at the time, right, much the same way that Donald Trump
plays off of and uses the traditional media as a foil and
says, you know, and benefits from when the New York Times
writes something negative about him. That helps him with his
constituency. Now, there's some trickiness with the the general
electorate because because, you know, there are some people who
still trust with the New York Times writes who were in the
electorate. No kidding.
By their abuse, they shall elect Musa Jackson said, and it was
exhausting was the exact same situation, because every time
then people kept saying, oh, in fact, the post cover that was in
the last newsletter at the bottom of all those pictures,
the New York Post says off he again he he he said that John
McCain's not a patriot, he's done. He's done kiss him,
goodbye. Yeah. It was just everything that Trump did these
there was the newspapers and they've been some of the lies.
It's almost like the 99% thing that we talked about earlier
show where you you just come in and poor comes out and just lies
Yeah, lies that 99% of every Nobody believes in climate
change. However scientists so when it's not true, and it just
makes people turn against you, the question
I have is when she says that, is that because she heard a number
and thought it was high enough, and she can just say this? Does
she not have the moral fiber to repeat
the the bogus number to begin with?
Or is it? Is it just so? She's so delusional, that it is deemed
okay to exaggerate to make the point?
The question is, is she exaggerating or sincerely thinks
is 99%? Or yeah,
because you're accusing maybe 97% You're accusing her of
lying? And my if she is lying, well, is lying need
to have intent to lie,
acting like Comey. Well, I am up for the Jive you know, I
don't think so. I think a lie is a lie. If you repeat the line,
you're sincerely believe it's true, or is it a post still a
lie? It doesn't become not a lie. Because you do think it's
true. I mean, yeah, it's fine. You're sincere. Sincerity is not
the question. Lying is Hold on.
I'll move move just to take a look at the definition. Here we
go. A false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive.
Okay, well, then your points will take an
intentional I'm
not lying a false when you're. I think she's lying. By the way,
no matter what. I think it was deliberate. Right?
Well, so that okay, I'll take that. But then it goes right
into my next question. Is she lying deliberately? Because once
this has been agreed to the sciences in it really doesn't
matter what you say? Because it's just the fact to her it is
fact there's no denying that she believes that. She believes that
it's crazy.
By the definition, she's not lying.
We need a definition
definition that they you just looked up and I'm glad you did.
She's not lying because she's not deliberate. She she maybe
she okay. She's a lunatic. He's not lying. And the fact that
she's not lying when she says 99% I mean, it's worse. I'm in
job. She's not lying. She's just a lunatic. The Siam says. And
with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the
morning to you, John C. or the C stands for Cold War survivor.
Devorah. AK
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vortex. And of course in the morning to our artists,
especially amateur ama th er ammeter, who brought us the
artwork for episode 880 that was promised to prosecute. And he
brought us now I wondered because I saw this image in
other places. Did he just grabbed this and not put
Hillary's head on the turkey? Could we didn't check it. We
just thought doesn't that was
an easy fix. You can put a Hillary's head on the turkey.
I haven't feeling he may have not done that himself. I'm not
sure.
Oh, can I send it that way he has to be repulsed?
Because I saw someone else tweet the same image like oh, did they
grab that from us? Unlike Well, I
will do a search afterwards. And then we'll pull it,
pull it, pull it pull it, pull it. You're not
allowed to see it. You can you can repurpose stuff if you
change it substantially. And but generally speaking, we like
original stuff, original ideas and original art. And we do so
we want. I didn't I didn't think about because I looked at it and
it was so kind of like looked like it was something someone
would do at the end of the show quickly. Quick. hack job. No
offense. Yeah. But it was the way they typically come in when
there's just a funny gag. Yeah, and it related to everything we
talked about in the show
Hillary, it was perfect art. There was nothing wrong with the
art. It's just, ya know,
that the idea of why it was dynamite? Yeah. Okay, okay,
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Maybe not. I
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it's almost impossible. I know that we lost all these people
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because of the way we deconstruct stories, we appear
to be pro Trump. Yeah. And because we could there was just
a way it was turning out because of the people doing but the best
work was the Hillary people they were doing the best work of
propagandizing the public. Yeah. And so we ended up
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different. So there was nothing to deconstruct. He would just
read his tweets, right. There's nothing there. But tweets. Yeah.
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the bubble of the of the state of California, I had a guy who
wrote me this nasty note saying that was his bowl of craft beer,
you know, and you're saying about the California thing. And
what I'm gonna say it again, I had to re explain it to him, and
he never wrote me back. Which is that if you take California out
of the equation, insofar as this popular vote myth is concerned,
just pull California take all their votes are Trump and
Hillary away, Trump wins the country by a large margin in
popular vote. It's just California, I put it in the
newsletter I showed it, it's like almost like three plus
million, I think some about raises the number because Trump
couldn't get into the state to to promote himself if he wanted
to, because we're not allowing him. They, you know, it was
terrible. And they got like, she got like 70 plus percent of the
vote in California. So that that she wins all these numbers,
which is why the Electoral College exists. Otherwise, why
would you just turn over the country to California and let
them run everything into the ground like they've done here?
Well, what I always say when people say, Hey, man, you know,
this is exact, and there's a lot of talk about this. I don't know
if you saw Larry Lessig post.
I put the Larry Lessig thing if you notice the newsletter, yeah.
Well, of course, he ended there. Yeah, it wasn't in the
right. But I just I read the whole thing. The I read
it, yeah. Larry Lessig comes out in the Washington Post, again,
the Washington Post, the same operation that has the fake
news, the Washington Post, and he says that, well, we the
electoral college should just put Hillary in, who gives a crap
what the public wants? Why, what if that's what it said, what I
thought was more interesting is I have it here is only twice in
our past as the Electoral College selected a president
against the will of the people once in the 19th century, and
once on the cusp of the 21st. In 1824. It was Congress that
decided the election for John Quincy Adams. Likewise, in 1876,
it was Congress that gave disputed Electoral College votes
to Rutherford B. Hayes. And they say he says I should say in both
cases, now he's talking about Bush v. Gore. He says that the
result violated violated what has become one of the most
important principles governing our democracy. One person one
vote now he incorrectly says our democracy because we're a
republic, but okay, you're a professor, what the fuck do I
know? In both cases, the votes of some weighed much more
heavily than the votes of others today, the vote of a citizen of
Wyoming is four times as powerful as the vote of a
citizen in Michigan. The vote of a citizen in Vermont is three
times as powerful as a vote in Missouri. This denies Americans
the fundamental value of a representative democracy, again,
we have Republic, equal citizenship get nothing in our
constitution compels that result here comes instead, if the
electoral college is to control who becomes our president, we
should take it seriously by understanding its purpose
precisely. It is not meant to deny a reasonable judgment by
the people. It is meant to be a circuit breaker just in case the
people go crazy. So and then he closed out by saying in this
election that people did not go crazy. The winner by far the
popular vote is the most qualified candidate for
president in more than a generation, like her not know
electric could have a good faith reason to vote against her
because of her qualifications. Choosing her is thus plainly
within the bounds of a reasonable judgment by the
people. And I assert that the electoral college did their job
by keeping the actual crazy person out. This is the this is
the part that is that is this broken, unless it's part. She
says, Oh, he's
a knee jerk liberal. And as far as he's concerned, there's not
nobody should be in that presidential office. Unless
they're a Democrat. It's that simple. Right? And he's just
looking for grasping at straws. And this is the worst case
scenario for him. And this is what he's writing this is it
talking to Antonio about a democratic system? Or in your
right is a republic, not a democracy. This is the circuit
breaker is to keep California from just dominating everything,
just the ones who went nuts and made the popular vote go for
her. Yes, again, take California out of it, which is nutty state
take those votes away and she doesn't win so how do you
rationalize that? In other words, the whole country is
wrong. And California is the only state that's right. you're
onto
something John? They should secede. I think they should I'm
all for it. Go go go anyway,
it will never be allowed there's too many ports anyway it's a
whole shoreline that would be lost can't do it.
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pictures is always a winner in there
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I've always looked at the I do a lot of divorce. Still no, a lot
of professional photographers I like to shoot. But there's two,
two typically types of guys. There's the one guy who shoots
and shoots goes crazy. She has 1000s and 1000s of shots and he
goes over each one and picks the two that are gems. And then
there's the other guy which is the one that's very interesting.
He's the guy who sets up a shot.
Yeah. shoots it once. nails it. That guy is like
that. Those are the guys I rented one of these guys. Render
one of these guys he is very high end photographer and he
shoots eight by 10
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no, no, it has a bizarre very small format compared to eight
by 10. Oh Seems like this is an inch by inch inches. Oh
my god, I was thinking centimeters. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah so he he'll set up a shot. I did a shot for a book thing
with this guy a good get the makeup people come in and they
move you around and they do this pottery and they move the lights
around it takes a couple of little Polaroids and then he
puts the giant probably cost 20 bucks for one of these negatives
into thing shoots and once he's done, yeah, yeah, it's
perfectly one one shot. Yeah. And I know photographers like
this. They're very they're few and far between the do this?
Yeah, very far if you buy Patricia Stewart, she's a Dutch
photographer. And I've worked with her several times you'd
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wanted to give you a little insight and thought I had
regarding what no one seems to really know is who's going to be
doing what within the Trump administration. So I rescind my
Secretary of Defense. Pick two Mad Dog he'll
be the guy. What's his name again?
Man Mad Dog Mattis?
Mad Mad Dog? Mattis? That guy? Yeah. So it seems like he's
going to be the secretary of defense. And, you know, the got
a little insight into clappers resignation. Because there's
been a lot of this. I've actually the New Yorker did a
huge hit piece on Michael Flynn, calling him a nut job, which is
pretty interesting. And of course, what happened was, you
know, Flynn was a guy who was running around boots on the
ground getting stuff done, you know, changing the way the
military does intelligence, the pencil pushers in DC didn't like
that. And so they fired him and who Guess Who fired him.
Clapper. So this is no coincidence.
He didn't want to be fired.
No, of course. No. No. So clapper gave like nine months to
get the heck out. So yeah, so Clapper is behind. Maybe I
should leave now. But I had a thought for Secretary of State
because we've had tons of names running around. But you're
floating around. Even Mitt Romney who actually might not
even be such a bad pick. Except he's such a dick. Douchebag. But
all of a sudden it hit me and it would mess with everybody's
head. It would be great for our show in the media because we get
bring back. Lots of old fake news. Well, not really fake
news, but you can see how the news works. Ready
for my my pick? Is launch does not portray us. No. Dan who Dan
Quayle. Now,
I'm telling you, this is a genius pick.
No, you're right. It would be it would screw up everybody, but it
did have all the guys are gonna He's not gonna know. It's not
even in the
cards. Okay. Okay,
I can put it in the red book if you want, but it's not going
anywhere that I did.
I it just struck me all of a sudden and he's been you know,
he's supportive of Trump. He's been doing a couple of couple of
q&a sessions here and then I
know he should pick him up. We're gonna do this game. I got
one.
All right. Jeb Bush. No, no, no.
Yeah. Why not?
I'll just tell you the reason why Dan Quayle. He went around
the world as vie for for, for Bush. He did as many miles as
Hillary Clinton. He was a part of all the deals. Yeah, he just
he's media friendly, but unfriendly for himself. You
know, he's, he comes across as an idiot and media loves
cranking. He runs a huge company.
Yeah, um, I was told by a friend of mine in DC, who will remain
nameless, but it's highly connected.
That he knows Quayle? Uh huh.
He says quails, extremely intelligent guy. Yeah. It's kind
of I guess he just presents himself as a doofus.
I just yeah, he. He's clumsy. But Cerberus. I mean, this is a
big company that he's running. It's no joke.
He's not going to quit that company to work for this go back
into government. No way.
Oh, no, no, I don't think Jeb would be a Jeb wouldn't be no
good. And Trish is the guy that gets mentioned the most now.
To me not a great pig Yeah,
Hi Ken. I don't like him. I agree. Yeah,
his his code name is p four by the way.
Petraeus
Yeah, everyone has a abbreviation. Yeah. And you
know, I'm getting all these text messages actually is more
through signals on if you call text message. And you know,
sometimes like, what the hell what the hell are they talking
about? Yeah, so, Trump is dj t. That's easy. Flynn is MF
but P for MF
MF I couldn't figure out P for Petraeus p four four star
General Petraeus p four.
Yeah, you should take a look at what's going on you but here's
an interesting Well, he's
a he's a he's a favorite insider for something for sure. He was
also kicked out by clapper
also kicked out by clapper. Clapper is a bad guy. Well, you
don't have to deal with him. Oh, no,
I you know me and Patricia said so far as our show is concerned
as I just dislike his his carrying on with that with his
outfits. Yeah, it is a little over the top, isn't it? Like
come on. You're not a General De Simone Chile.
Get a clue you're not to talk to that's
where we got into another. We lost a bunch of other listeners
during that little era because of these guys who won't
recognize the fact that generals can design their own uniforms.
We are the only podcast we are the only podcast is writing our
listenership all the way to the bottom
of Earth Day. Oh, no, they can't is it got some military rules?
And I show him the exact section of the military law which says
the generals can design their own uniforms. And then they
never did they quit the show.
I know it's pretty bad. Pretty bad. Was to do Yeah.
Here, let's see, here's a good one. This is like they're here.
They're trying to soften trump up a little bit. They get that
Mad Dog Mattis guy in there, Trump is using some of his picks
to change his positions. And instead again, instead of the
left or the celebrating, no, oh, he's dropped that horrible idea.
And now he's gonna do this. Instead of that. They don't do
that they go. I always have flip flop flip flop. And you don't
you know, the flip flopping thing is what you used to demean
somebody during an election, not after an election.
During the debates and stuff, that's when you use the flip
flopper stuff.
Yeah, what was the point of saying that now is like, stupid,
but let's play Trump political picks and waterboarding was very
sharp, a Trump critic doesn't seem that Trump wants a team of
perhaps dissenters around them, or at least not a bunch of Yes,
men.
Yeah. And that's what's getting very interesting about this.
Nikki Haley was somebody who was very critical about the Muslim
ban, for example, and you would think she would have no place in
a Trump administration. And neither would would Romney. The
fact that in the case of Haley, she's actually been nominated as
the US Ambassador to the UN that suggested change here, but I
think it may be an even bigger one is look what's going on with
retired General James Mattis. When Donald Trump went to talk
to the New York Times he signaled real flexibility on a
big issue, which is waterboarding, which critics of
course call torture. And during the campaign, Donald Trump said
he wanted to bring back waterboarding to get tough on
terrorists. But he then told the New York Times a couple of days
ago, hold on a second. I talked to James Mattis about that. And
he says, It doesn't work. And so basically, I've changed my
position. Now critics are gonna say, Wait a second, he's a flip
flopper. He's backpedaling. He said one thing in the campaign.
Now he might Governor different way. But there's another way to
look at that, of course, Doug, and it's that the critics of
Donald Trump, including the New York Times said this was
somebody who was unstable. You can't trust him his temperament
to be commander in chief, if he's someone willing to go
behind closed doors with a retired general with the respect
of, of James Mattis and say, You know what, you make a good
point, I'm going to rethink this. It shows more flexibility,
and maybe a better temperament than his critics thought.
Yeah, I often look at the Trump is a pure negotiator, in every
every relationship he has. He starts out with a hard line and
is subject to give and take depending on how the negotiation
goes. It's been a transition that is keeping with Donald
Trump's style and one case in point there is Dr. Ben Carson
saga.
Right. Yeah, yeah. That shows
willingness to listen, I guess. I'm glad I know what it shows.
There is a problem though. There's a problem and they're
very interesting guy of guess one of Trump's best friends, I
think is a hedge fund guy, young guy. I can't remember his name.
But you know, billion billionaire. And he was over in
the UK and he did this interview with BBC and from that came the
from him out of his mouth directly. It's in this report. I
think it's in this report. You said, You were so pro gay that
even Elton John is going to be performing. But yeah, but that
wasn't true
what the left our societies they want to censor and make
politically correct everything in the society and the average
person is sort of tired of that. And so so I don't agree with
that headline that you just said, I'm also a gay rights
activist, you know, you can look it up I've given to American
unity pack, they give it to the Human Rights Campaign. I'm for
more I know you're on for marriage equality. And so you
know, and by the way, this will be the first American president
in US history that enters the White House with a pro gay
rights stance, Elton John is going to be doing our, our
concert on the mall for the inauguration.
That turned out to be a little premature. But you know, this is
what's interesting is which musician now there's Oh, we
already know there's no no, no money in the music business
anymore. But there really is none. And who's going to
perform? Don't we always have a performance? Who will step up?
Who isn't going to perform to
who performed at the inauguration in 2008 for Obama?
Aretha Aretha Franklin performed? For sure. Is she how
she I'm sure I'm sure. She do. Aretha Franklin sang she sang
live at the inauguration.
It was Yeah. Well maybe be like 2012. Who did 2012? I don't know
is beyond my B 12. dosage.
I don't remember that what you're saying is not that
important. Well, it is an issue and a couple garage bands.
Have a Green Day. Oh, wait, they hate. You see them on the
American Music Awards. Little Green
data is a gay band. I mean, the guy's gay.
Oh, Billy Joe.
Yeah, he's not gay. Are you kidding? Billy Joe was gay. It's
true.
Yeah, it's true. No, Billy Joe gay.
Yes. So sorry to disappoint you. Wow. Yeah,
he's gay. Oh, yeah. No, he doesn't say he's gay. Yeah.
He does say he's gay.
No, he's no. In fact, he says he's he's no longer sure he's
bisexual. So he's already edging away and
now he's thinks he's gay. BJ is not gay. Okay, fine. I don't
I've never met the guy but on
the American Music Awards, he changed the lyrics of the song
and he started chanting. No Trump que que que no fascism and
USA. No Trump no que que que no fascist performing. And no, I
don't think they'll be performing this. Who wants to do
that song? Yeah, I did. I did catch a piece of pence. You
know, the true operator, the chief operating officer of the
United States to come elect to regarding the Hamilton Fructus.
And I really I liked it. I like he's a cool. He's a cool
customer, man. I was pleased for a second. He's not really
special. But just shows you how. How he speaks. We really hear
he's pretty even
keeled, that's for sure. Yeah.
Well, first off, my daughter and I and her and her cousins really
enjoyed the show. Hamilton is just an incredible production.
There is a little gotcha in here. I don't know if you'll
catch it and
incredibly talented people. And it was a real joy to be there.
And, you know, when we arrived, we heard we heard a few boos and
we heard some cheers. And I nudged my kids and reminded
them, that's what freedom sounds like and nice. But at the end, I
you know, I did hear what was said from the stage. And I can
tell you I wasn't offended by by what was said, I'll leave to
others, whether that was the appropriate venue to say it. But
I do want to say that, that the basic element is the center of
that message is one that I I want to address. And that is I
know, this is a very disappointing time for people
that that did not see their candidate win in this national
election. I know this is a very high for some people. And I just
want to reassure people that what President Elect Donald
Trump said, On election night, he absolutely meant from the
bottom of his heart, he is preparing to be the president of
all of the people of the United States of America, and to watch
him bringing together people of diverse views, bringing together
people that differed with him strongly seeing him talk to
leaders around the world. Like, I just want to I just want to
reassure every American that that in the days ahead, I'm very
confident that they're gonna see they're gonna see President
Elect Donald Trump and be president for all of the people
wait for it. We embrace that principle and we're gonna work
hard to make that principle everyday that we serve and just
a button Hamilton gate up do
you want or expect an apology? Well, I
as I said, I would just I would leave that to others whether
that was the appropriate venue for that but you know, I will
tell you, Chris, if you haven't seen the show, go to see it. It
is a great, great show. And you know, and I'm I'm a real history
buff. And so I, my daughter and I and her cousins really enjoyed
it.
Now why does he laugh at the end there? Is that because he's,
he's I'm a real history buff and we really enjoyed it is because
it's historically dark or incorrect that that was my
immediate thought.
I don't know, listening to your
question has to be I mean, Chris Wallace is kind of an upper
class elite snood.
Yeah, but but it's it's pence who's laughing. Now you Sure?
Yeah. Pen is a pen says, Well, you know, I'd my real history
buff and my daughter and I really enjoyed it. Because it's,
I don't have insurance. Jim, you saw this as a video? Yeah.
Listen, listen to it again.
I would just I would leave that to others, whether that was the
appropriate venue for that. But you know, I will tell you,
Chris, if you haven't seen the show, go to see it is a great,
great show. And, you know, and I'm a real history buff. And so
I, my daughter, and I and her cousins really enjoyed it.
I just wonder, to me, it was just like a little thing. Like,
that was a little annoying. In the last because it was black
people pretending to be white people. I mean, why was he
laughing?
I didn't like it. Some things? I don't know. I
have no idea. I mean, maybe that's why I did because it's,
you know, it's not what you would call it's not history.
It's an entertainment vehicle that has, you know, memes of the
era supposedly put into song
and song and but you know what I mean, right? It was just like,
all dramatized?
Yeah, just I don't know, I just, I'm a history buff, and I saw
that thing. Going, yeah. That was funny. No, no, no. Well, he
was magnanimous and more. I'd say generally, okay, they booed
me. What are you gonna do? Yeah. At least I didn't take a shot at
me in the theater, Mrs. Lincoln. It's like that.
Oh, man. Well, here, this could this could be an asset. John
really played a clip on. Let me see if I still have that one
handy. Yep, played a clip. The other day from that professor,
the author who used the N word on CNN and pretty much made,
made Brooke Baldwin cry.
Remember that? Yeah. Doris.
I'll just play that for a second. Just that one bit.
Let's bring in CNN political commentator and Trump supporter
Paris. Dennard. Also trolls Kaiser is with us. He's a
cnn.com contributor and the author of multiple books,
including the cost of courage, the story of how one French
family fought the Nazis during the Paris occupation. Gentlemen,
welcome. And thank you, Charles. Let me just begin with you. I
mean, now that you're hearing, we're getting some of the the
information coming out of this New York Times meeting that
Trump has disavowed this particular group. Is that enough
for you?
Well, I'm delighted that my sister Trump has visited my alma
mater at the New York Times and said that he doesn't want to do
this anymore. But I want to give him a little advice for the
future. If he does not want to stimulate the alt right first
thing. You should never retweet someone with the name white
genocide, who lists his dresses, Jew America. That's what he did
in February, he asked his supporters again to give the
Nazi salute, which he did at a rally in March. That's not a
good idea. In July, I think it was a mistake. In March, he
asked his supporters to raise and pledged their support to his
candidacy and promised to vote for him. There's plenty of video
of that. And then of course, in July, he retweeted an image of
his opponent with these six pointed Jewish star on it. I
thought that was a mistake. But we have bigger problems here.
Also in July, you know, he selected as his vice president,
the most homophobic man in American public life, a person
who believes that gay people actually do not have the right
to exist. And then you know, if you don't want support the alt
right don't choose as a White House counselor, counselor, a
man who uses the word nigger, whose wife says that he
did not. So that was the shot that was heard round the world
because a white man said nigger on TV. Okay. Here's the question
for you, John. In the CNN guidelines, are you allowed to
use the word nigger? Or do you have to use N word or can
certain people use it? What is it? What did what do you think
the guidelines are?
I think the guidelines would be if you're black, you can use it.
You think they actually have that written down? I would watch
what I'd write. Well, this came to a head the other night with
our overnight sensation Don Lemon. And actually it was a
broth was in on this. It was a huge argument about whether he
can use that word or not.
We should not sanitize that word by saying this person called
such and such the N word. No, that person didn't call that
person the N word that person call Sonny, I know you're gonna
get upset. That person called you or that person a nigger.
They didn't say the word can't believe Charlotte, we are going
to use that word, of course, because because we're using you
should know that. I do know that I have said the entire time that
I've been here, I don't think we should bastardize the word. I
don't think it should be used freely in songs over and over
again, didn't use it, using it in context of a story. And it is
relevant, you should be able to say and in fact, I encourage
people to say it because you're encouraging people to use it. As
you said here the impact of the word no, I'm not encouraging
people to call people the N word. I'm using it historically.
If you are if I'm a journalist, a journalist or part of the
record, it is our job to convey the truth and to tell people
reality it's our job to job to sanitize. We're not
be used. There it is. If you're calling so Marlon honcho, to use
our journalistic conscience, to make sure
that our brawls get in there
using it to call someone a derogatory name.
In the last two hours, I've interviewed Cornell Brookes, the
president of the NAACP, Mark boreal, the president of the
National Urban League, they both wish that word would not be
uttered. Why do you have to use that word instead of saying the
N word?
You don't have to use that word? I wish that word would not be
uttered. I wish people would not call each other flattering it
yourself but but I'm not calling someone the word. I'm a
journalist. I'm supposed to use it. We're supposed to sanitize
it.
Oh, wow. For dawn for the day. Thank you. That's very clear.
Dynamite Bell and he did say earlier in that I don't think I
had to clip that. You CNN says you can use it if you use in
historical context.
Well, that's good. Progressive. Now ahead of the
game. Good to go. Nice. In the
red of the words. What are you gonna do?
Yeah. Okay,
well go. Well, I
just have a couple of things. Yeah. Let me get my glasses.
I do feel the Don Lemon should put a trigger warning and you
know, maybe uh, yeah, I probably should it should have been it'd
be weepy people just trigger warnings on may be used in this
in this show. Yeah.
Nigel Farage wants to be the ambassador to the United States.
So he's trolling. Trump wants him to be the ambassador. Yeah.
Yeah. So let's listen to the how this evolves on CNN they have
him on for God knows how long this woman had doesn't know what
to do with him. But you got to keep them on. But they you know,
so she's asking stupid question Faraj just driving right over
her. But this is Faraj one, and talks a little bit about some of
the things that we talked about on this show. In fact, our show
is the only one who actually produce clips from the House of
Commons and where you may be able to find one of them. Yes,
the House of Commons where they sat around this was about six
months ago, they sat around trying to ban Trump from coming
to the UK. And they made it call them everything under the book
and the house in the House of Commons. They call them a
buffoon, a clown and idiom.
I have a little bit of that if you want to hear. I think
there's a little bit of that. I think this is Britain is pretty
good at roasting beef. Do you not think it's better that we
just roast Trump? about 1.6 billion Muslims? Thank God there
are 1.6 billion Trump's
his policy to close borders is bonkers.
Donald Trump is free to be a fool. But he's not free to be a
dangerous fall in Britain.
He is a Wozzeck.
His words are not comical. His words are poisonous. Donald
Trump is a buffoon buffoonery and offensive,
nasty, abusive racist tweets. Not a criminal,
a buffoon, empathy ring, I'm here. Let us have the
opportunity to challenge him or let him go home with his tail
between his legs and ultimately buffoonery should not be met
with a blunt instrument of a ban, but with a classic British
response of ridicule.
buffoon, a buffoon, Natalia a buffoon
so they this woman who was on CNN, the interviewer, she
doesn't know this. And she brings up some very interesting
points in these two clips. But let's start with clip one.
Well, here's the thing and this is what critics say yeah, this
is Carol, CNN facebook.com/carol. CNN. Oh,
cool. Oh, actually met more. Yes. Yes, she is a moron. She's
kind though. She's, she's not offensive in the morning.
But she you think she knows something?
She always looks like she's gonna cry.
Well, here's the thing. And this is what critics say you actually
met and talked with Mr. Trump before the British Prime
Minister did they say that's not a great message to be sending to
Britain's Prime Minister tariffs, what do you think?
Well, it's unfortunate, isn't it that nearly the entire British
government said derogatory things about Donald Trump and
his team during the election campaign? So they're not, you
know, they're not getting off on a very good start. Whereas, you
know, I said, that was they didn't agree with every single
thing that Mr. Trump said, I felt his direction of travel was
absolutely right. And I have to say that since November the
eighth, I think the way that he is being magnanimous in victory,
and calling for unity, I think it's really good news.
What Some say he's not being overly lovely, magnanimous, and
I'm reaching out to the British Prime Minister, because nine
world leaders before he actually talked with the British prime
minister. And it seems to some people that the relationship
between Britain's Prime Minister and the President of the United
States won't be as warm as it historically has been.
I think there are some fences that need to be mended. And
that's because of the nature of the negative things that were
said by senior conservative politicians in Britain, about
Donald Trump and his candidacy. And that's what I would like to
do. I would like to try to act as a little bit of a middleman,
to try and mend some of this so that we can get on with some
really important work.
Now, she obviously doesn't know anything about the buffoonery
about these, but the House of Commons actually having a
meeting to ban his entry into the United States permanently,
as I remember. And calling him one name after another. She was
clueless about that, you could tell because she asked the same
question twice. And it
was only in there was January 21. of 2016. So
not even here. It wasn't that long ago.
We you remembered it. That's I mean, hello. Hello. Yeah. But ya
know, here
we go with the second part of this, where he actually pretty
much promotes himself. He wants to be the ambassador, and Trump
wants to be the ambassador. And he's got rationale for this. And
I think he could be, he'd be the only one who could do it because
everybody else is on record as insulting him.
It's up to the British government. So, you know, I
would, I would say to Downing Street that I'm here to help, if
you want me.
Okay. On that note, you did right on on Breitbart quote,
like a bolt from the blue Trump tweeted out that I would do a
great job as the UK ambassador to Washington, your Prime
Minister did not exactly welcome the interference from an
American politician. And the First Minister of Wales said, if
you got that job, it would be like giving a child a chainsaw.
So was that the right thing to do on Mr. Trump's part? Well,
I wouldn't take the Prime Minister, I wouldn't take the
First Minister of Wales very seriously. And anything that he
says it's remarkable that people with that low level of ability
can reach so high in politics. As far as the Prime Minister is
concerned, I'm in a different political party. And they tend
to view things in a very tribal way. What I have heard are lots
of voices in business in the United Kingdom, saying, Wouldn't
this make sense? And actually, there is some historical
precedent for it. You know, we'll go all the way back to
Kennedy's time. You know, he definitely had a say, in who the
British ambassador was in those days, who was slated to be the
British ambassador. And
yeah, you mean instead of Faraj? Nobody yet?
Okay. But there is the, like the ambassador who sits in the
embassy?
Yeah, yeah. He
sits in the embassy gets a good salary. I'll never lie. No, No.
and No, he'll never already.
Yeah, parties, of course. But the problem is the spy part. The
embassies are always the spy headquarters. They're not going
to
show you the guy usually the British and the French and some
of these high end really party like especially the American
Ambassador to France, for example. Yeah. They don't tend
to be spies.
But they're always harboring the spies in the embassies know, the
embassy is filled with spies. That's not true. So
they can't trust him with all the spy craft.
I don't think they need to. He's just gonna be boozing it up.
I'm all for it. I'm all for Faraj boozing it up in DC. I'm
down. Yeah. I'll be fantastic. Now, there is something that
this program is uniquely qualified to discuss if you
cannot really get this conversation, or the remedy for
this global issue that is taking place right under our feet. And
I of course, speak of the African ant super colony poised
to invade the planet.
Oh, this is a species of ants. Yes, you do. Have you not heard
about this? You think I would have? Yes. This is the Lepus
Yoda ant
species of ant from the forests of Ethiopia, and they look
poised to become a globe really invasive species capable of
spreading around the world disrupting ecosystems and
becoming a pest for humans?
What What kind of add what's their sociology?
There's an sociology.
Oh yeah. Oh my goodness well hang for example No Okay,
I'll go over this we've done this before I'll do it again the
Argentinian for example, which is the one that is the one that
has taken over California sorry, and trying to get into Oregon
but it's mostly California right now I know I saw Argentina and
the whole way up. That's a it has a different social structure
than most ants and for example, if you're in a hive one and
there's another ant colony across the street and hive two,
I have I have your answer. I have the sociology I found it.
Okay, well,
let me finish this. Yes. The info I'm I'm a part of Colony
one and I've got my colony gets wiped out. I am gladly accepted
into colony to as a fellow and as opposed to most ants, which
will kill
me. Damn,
it's an businesses serious. Oh, yeah. All right, the species
leprosy Yoda Kana sense, is showing signs it forms the super
colonies which are colonies comprised of more than one nest.
The Super colonies allow a single species of ants to spread
out over a large territory, a key step to becoming an invasive
species. This concern is a group of researchers from various
institutions in America and Ethiopia who published a study
on the ants this week in the journal insect pests are sure,
which would be social insects. They observed one similar
species of ant in the same genus, the leprosy Oda have
invaded South Africa's Kruger National Park and another
temporarily shut down Australians, Australia's Darwin
port after the ants were discovered amongst the cargo.
So they're out there on the loose.
Well, I would like to see what happens when this colony the
African colony, the Ethiopian antibody, are they big? Are they
small? What's the size?
I'm seeing them here they had they have just killed a termite.
And they they look to be about half the size of the termite
and I would like to see them up against the Argentinian ant and
see what happens if you have like, what 20 of these ants and
20 Argentinian ants in the in the same room and see what
happens I would also like to see when one hive is near an
Argentinean hive and then we still have the fire ants which
are you know, here and there and they were pretty nasty and they
would kill everything. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I
think it's a challenge to get in get inroads into the American
ant.
A Gemini
Yeah, because our ants just don't want any old Ethiopian
ants just taken over.
I wouldn't think unless the fear that I have I'm sorry. The fear
that I have the fear wise Yeah. Is that these ants come over and
make friends and make allies Oh, of the Argentinian ants and they
live in harmony tearing up the place.
Is that possible? Do ants from different tribes do that often
is the limit of my knowledge. Okay.
Well, there's something here about the about the Argentinian
and it's perhaps the most famous example the super colony builder
of course, we have the ants spread across roughly two and a
half 1000 miles of Western Europe, including parts of
Spain, France, Italy and Portugal in the US California is
home to an Argentinian and super colony spanning more than 500
miles. That's because in their non native habitats they can
thrive once in a region the invasive ants drive out native
and populations and through an war and though an wars man and
wars may seem This is hey, this is at least a cartoon but maybe
a feature film and wars and wars you thought you'd seen all the
problems in the world and then
came the EDS.
The the Argentinians and assault on native California and species
has also led to declines in predators that fed on those
native and such as the coastal horned lizard sea see not to
there's nothing else I just wonder if they're just trying to
get some money to study this and
maybe possible.
Anyway, I would you please keep an eye on that because you are
the resident and expert. Yeah, I
will look into this. This is something that I have to I'm
concerned about already. Yeah.
Thank you. Okay,
I just I'm this is a clip that I had left over from Thursday. I
don't know why it's here. I think it just played I guess it
was a an idea to keep it here. This was regarding the here's
the name of the clip. I don't know what it is Trump press pool
versus Obama's. Oh, okay. Remember what it is. This is,
you know, Trump is a member. He dumped his press corps and it's
horrible and he's not doing it right. And he's not following
me. I ditched him. He's not following protocol. All and
traditions and exist tradition and all that crap. You know,
just remind everybody
that
the Obamas were not much better.
In another rebuke to the press that Trump denied access to his
meeting with the Japanese Prime Minister. Later in the week.
There was a photo taken it was a handout photo, which means it's
basically a visual press release, most major news outlets
agreed to work together and agreed not to show the photo as
a form of protest. That's
Can you believe that? I know we talked about that thing briefly.
But it still bugs me It bugs me didn't shit does.
But yeah, it's worth what is their
job to report the news. But they
feel like all they've got is a photo they run the photo or they
don't run the photo, but they don't do if they don't get to
run the photo. That has to be an editorial decision. It's not
done as a protest. If you said editorially, I think this photo
stinks. Can we get anything else? No, it was just write a
little story. That's fine. But I'm not running it as a protest.
And notice it's not fine. I
noticed they coordinated the Khoisan, we coordinated,
but just nibblers.
So one question I forgot. Do you think that the the Ethiopian
Ethiopian entity tastes good?
I'm sure somebody knows it'd be crunchy peppery.
That'd be either all peppery. I'm pretty sure. Let's continue.
While you didn't see it in the news coverage. These kinds of
choices are made by news outlets in order to take a stand. We
also heard from 15 Different journalism advocacy groups this
week, all urging the President elect to not only provide a
press pool, but also take other steps toward transparency. So
let's talk about this rocky start. Yeah, there's any reason
to think it might get better. So Ben, we have seen some access
this weekend, President elect Trump greeting visitors to his
golf resort. Do you think this is a positive sign something
that we should we should actually be acknowledging and
thanking him for? Or is this just the kind of bare minimum
the bare minimum acceptable standard for access to the
President?
Look, I think the the the expectation that he's going to
make himself available to the press is a good one. And I hope
that he does do that, especially after he becomes president. I
think there may be some different standards for
President elects than President but and would know that better
than I would. But beyond that, you know, that the fact is that
the press access for the last eight years has been quite
terrible. And many members of the press have complained about
this. I mean, the White House was releasing its own photos and
tapes of events and not not really allowing the press to
cover it in the way that the press wanted to cover it. For
years. The DOJ was targeting people at the AP. I mean,
there's been a lot of problems between the White House and the
press long predating Donald Trump.
You see what I'm hearing here. This is well, they did just
saying, well, he's not following protocol, because they want to
get back to where they already been shut out by Obama. Yeah,
that's what he's saying.
And I remember because they have that staffer talking to
you remember that to Obama's always bitching about the press?
Yeah.
That's not an excuse for Trump to not do the right thing here
the right thing in context? And is that
the right thing is what protocol? Is tradition, the
right thing? What we want with the press dammit, what do you
think you are you podcast?
Are you bad? Wasn't with the Obama administration versus say,
the Bush administration or the Clinton administration?
Well, I don't think President Obama has a perfect record on
this very often in meetings that he holds within the White House,
conducting the Office of President, the White House will
offer us a still photograph, or put their own video on the
whitehouse.gov website. The kind of kind of meetings which
traditionally with his predecessors, or press pool
would always come in and get some video in person watching
the president rather than be having to be handed material.
That's the new media age, we've given the tools of journalism,
including Twitter, to the president center, the
candidates. Now you
see a theme there, they're starting to realize they're
screwed. And they all think that they have handed Twitter to the
press handed Twitter. No, no, no. Know where you're watching
the slow motion demise of the press. It's real slow motion. I
don't know if the show will outlast the crash. But
it's happening.
It's where Yeah, and it's been happening for a while. Yeah, it
actually began with television. You really want to look at the
numbers and you want to look at ways things are going during the
Nixon administration. It was getting so bad that the media
had to have these joint operating agreements on these
various cities. It's when I'm in San Francisco, happened in Los
Angeles. It happened and it was
that fast for advertising. You mean for the advertising? Yeah.
Right. And what
they did was they're losing their ass and this is before
Craigslist,
but they're doing this again, aren't they? This these these
deals in markets?
I think the deals are long done, and I think they're still I
don't know what the deals are doing today. I think they're all
I know is that they had these deals they would do these deals
that take two minutes to press operations that were competing
against each other and give them a advertising monopoly. And they
would be the same newspaper it usually one in the afternoon and
one in the evening. The The evening papers all Good morning.
I'm sorry, one in the morning and one in the afternoon. And
the afternoon papers all die because of TV. And it was TV
that was impinging people were going to watch TV to get their
news because the reports were easier to digest, or they didn't
want to read a lot. I don't know. I think a lot of it had to
do with the designs and the way they were presenting the news. I
look at old newspapers in the newspaper reading room once in a
while and you get that cow? You mean your basement? No. And cow,
I don't have I do have a lot of stuff nowadays. Online. But it's
like it they they've been scrambling since the 70s. And is
every it's just keeps ratcheting down. It's just been it's
accelerating, I think a little bit because of the internet. But
they're just and they're just oblivious to it or they don't
know what to do.
I could I could by the way I could solve this problem for
them in 24 hours, that would be solved. It would be solved for
everybody, but they're too chickenshit to do it. Okay, you
ready? Did this the fix is obvious. The only reason why
advertising works on radio and television. Just make them make
it simple. But we'll add in the web. I'm sorry, I had
newspapers. The only reason is because they have agreed to
standards and organizations that oversee these standards known as
circulation and ratings. That Nielsen doesn't actually know
how many people are watching. They don't know if people are
brain dead in front of the TV. All the things you hear about
podcasts will be downloaded. But we don't know if you listen to
it. No, you don't know you don't know. With radio, you have some
diary still to people are apparently being honest.
Although a lot of people write in and listen to the no agenda
show may not work very well for your overall ratings hit Z 100.
And if they would only agree, okay, this is a standards body
and we agree to this, then it would be a game over as long as
as long as they can have a industry wide support of
whatever the the metric is, it would work but they're afraid to
do it because they know they then they really have to
compete. That's why it's not happening. That is the answer.
24 hours and I've got it done.
And what did you do? Well, I
would just create a standards body until everyone here
is a standard rates and data. There's a bunch of standards
bodies for news,
meiotic nosing. No, I'm saying online online. There is no
single standards body
there is no I'm just telling you. So this is the way to save
the newspapers. Yeah, by going online.
I'm sorry, I didn't make it clear. If they're online with a
little podcast, and they've been there and in their stories. And
they have some form of actually accepted agreed to metric that
everyone that everyone's on board with. You can even call it
hits. I don't give a shit what it is. It doesn't matter.
My take on what your take is all right. It would accelerate their
demise.
Why do you have to give my plan away? Dammit.
They would be toast overnight. Thanks. And most of these
podcasts would be to
Yes. Yes. Yes. But
unless they adopted our specific model, which
is as you know, the value for value model
to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh,
yeah, that'd be fun.
Indeed.
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it comes in. I want to mention something just briefly since
America is pretty much seen worldwide is the most racist
country. We invented slavery and all that. Just you know, that's
pretty much how it's taught in schools, I think. Yeah, so
I started schools even though it's all bull crap, but okay,
so many of the black pizza thing in the Netherlands, which is is
my favorite topic. Yes. So just shortly, briefly, we didn't even
have Christmas when I was growing up in the Netherlands.
There was no Well, there was Christmas where there was no
Santa Claus and no presents. That was some you went to mass
to Christmas mass. And I went and we used to go it was fun.
But we had some Catholics
who are depressed in Holland.
Yeah, not
anymore. I mean, they had some kind of enlightenment something
or other. Right. So what we've had for a long time is the St.
Nicholas who comes on to Steamboat from Spain, and he's
got his black pizza with him. And the United Nations is some
consultant from the United Nations is a woman who has been
trying to get reparations, reparations for slave colonies,
slave islands mainly serve a Aruba, you know, but I would say
mainly, Suriname really, you know, she started causing
trouble and saying, hey, you know, this is racism. And of
course, we got some, we got worldwide accusations of
blackface, which has nothing to do with it. It's not the
culture. It's, you know, we didn't have there's no black
face theatre ever has been.
And what, what has
been interesting in, in Dutch politics is there's a former
television news, a television host. I think she's she used to
do a book show and smart, smart gal, very educated. So fantasy
months. She's originally from CERN. I know for us, she was
born there, but I guess she's second generation. And she
formed a political party called the think party, dank, D and K
the thing party, and one of the main platform she has is this
racist Black Pete. And so she had been going through a very
interesting transformation from someone who people thought was
intellectual interesting, usually like a Sunday afternoon
type TV show and have a guest and talk about books. And she
did some other stuff. Now she's turned into someone who the
Dutch hate with with a passion, they hate her. And they they
hate everything she stands for. It's like when you know that
just that beside them. So the majority I would say, not all
but the majority. Like why are you doing this? Stop this this
is Black Pete We're gonna keep this near there's been all kinds
of it's gone through political systems. It's gonna stay right.
It doesn't have to be outlawed. But she continues to say I want
to get into parliament and I'm going to do something about this
atrocity. This is the this racism what she is receiving as
one of the newspapers this morning printed a lot of the
emails that she's getting from Dutch constituents. Pretty much
consistently the Dutch
call her a monkey. An ape, a monkey. And I'm blown away by
this. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't
even think even racist in America
go that far. And
now consistently, every email you stupid monkey, go back to
Sure. Yes, she's been I'm sorry, well she's from Suriname I
should have he gotta give us a little more wow okay I'm sorry
yes he's blacks he's from originally from Suriname Yeah.
And so they they're just going out there so they're showing
signs of intense racism
massive racism that's funny and and the thing that was
interesting to me is that it was the word is Monkey ape they're
always comparing her to which I mean that's really
racist.
I was rude and racist it's it's horrible and I'm not allowed to
do that is like insensitive to say the least and so they're
just proving her point All right, and you know, to proving
appointed this a racist country.
She had you right?
This is hadn't even thought of it that way. Yeah, exactly.
Well, they're fed up like all of Europe. Europe is fed up. They
don't know what to do with themselves. People
are freaking out and fed up.
They're just fed up. I'm telling you, they're fed up. Well, yes.
Listen, I was gonna I was leading into, they will be even
more fed up. With this taking place.
Turkey's president Diane's wasted no time in reaction to
what he sees as another snub to Turkey by the European Union,
whose parliament voted on Thursday to suspend the EU
membership talks. He's threatened to rip up the migrant
deal that could see Turkey again allowing 10s of 1000s of
refugees to flood into the EU. When 50,000 immigrants reached
the border town of Kapahulu wailed what would we do if
Turkey open the border gates you wondered, look here, this goes
any further, those border gates will be opened. You should know
that neither I nor this nation cares about empty threats. He
thundered. On the European Parliament's vote is non
binding, but was intended to send anchor at a signal stop the
post coup mass arrests of suspects opposition politicians
and journalists. A reaction Parliament considers
disproportionate Turkey has by far the largest refugee
population of people fleeing conflict or oppression in Syria
and has many from other conflict zones. But although safe,
because there's little work and no prospects most wants to
leave.
I can't wait to see how this one unfolds.
Well one thing that I think is a subtle little bite I don't know
what would this was a trial balloon or web play the smallpox
clip.
Oh boy, and let me I can only guess what this has come into.
Police responded with rubber bullets and water cannon around
1500 Refugees rioted in Bulgaria's largest camp. Leaving
dozens of officers injured hundreds of protesters have been
arrested. That comes after authorities moved to seal off
the camp in the southern town of Harmon Lee, followed reports of
a skin disease outbreak among immigrants. European Parliament
Member Angel Jan Bansky. This week warned of the health risks
to the wider population. These people really want to live in
safety. They want to be made deal by some sickness, which was
around 100 years ago carried by some African farmer. People did
not want to meet these people in the homily camp currently houses
3000 refugees, many from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. The
population of the town itself only around 18,000, some of whom
fear infection. According to the Medical Academy in the capitals
of fear, the migrants may be carrying viruses and diseases
such as smallpox. Smallpox is described as an acute contagious
disease, around a third of those who catch it die.
You know what's interesting about that, and this goes back
to the very beginning of this program, when I was reading the
Lisbon Treaty, which is the surrogate for the European
Constitution. If you read that properly, and you follow all the
documents through to the protocols, and if the police
because of the death penalty isn't is supposed to be not
possible in the European Union. However, if you are running away
from the police for any reason, they can shoot and kill you with
validity legally. But more importantly, anyone with a
contagious disease can be rounded up and put in jail
throughout all of
the EU sounds like a plan flu.
This is a he just said in that report contagious disease.
Mm hmm.
Well, it would seem to be the expeditious way to do invade
Europe by inoculating people with smallpox and playing them
amongst a mass of immigrants hadn't even thought of that. was
the first thing I thought I
had time for your shot. Oh, man, that's a good one.
And then you send them in there and then they've since nobody's
been given a vaccine against smallpox since the 70s, I
believe. I mean, I have one, but my kids don't know and Nobody
does. And so most of them were most of the people under the age
of I think, if the five or 60 are susceptible, and this stuff
spreads like wildfire. And so this could be a very interesting
ploy to decimate. We're actually be worse than that. The
Europeans by with these immigrants coming in and I'm
going to ask this question I asked you to every time these
reports come in, what the hell are these? These these
immigrants from Afghanistan doing? Yeah. Why is it F word?
Anybody leaving Afghanistan? Yeah. Is that the situation that
you have? I mean, Kandahar
is beautiful this time of year.
I don't understand why you'd leave. I'm
very suspicious about these Afghanistan. standees. Yeah,
there's Syrians. Yeah, makes sense of places being rub.
alized. Yeah. But anyway, so yeah, the smallpox it is not
being reported. Of course, though.
I like it. I like it. I liked the mass vaccination program.
And this is and by the way, this is something that was predicted.
Everyone knew that, you know, of course, when you have this kind
of influx of newcomers. You can have this kind of shit happen.
It's gonna get so bad.
I have no maybe that's the real reason that the State Department
has has put a warning visit Europe. I heard and we're gonna
play this. This is the this is the holidays in Europe, not safe
Park.
Agencies in Europe are saying that because of the continued
threat of terror in Europe this year.
Why do I hear a child's chime in in this report is
got a man on the street, somebody's grinding away with a
monkey.
The monkeys in Europe are saying that because of the continued
threat of terror in Europe this year, Christmassy events are
going to be more dangerous than ever. Earlier this week, French
authorities foiled an ISIL linked terror plot in Strasburg,
the French city that's home to one of the most famous Christmas
markets in Europe. Police across Europe are on high alert. In
Britain domestic intelligence agency mi five says the threat
of international terrorism remains severe. Add to that the
US government's latest travel advice to its citizens. It tells
Americans to exercise caution at holiday events and outdoor
markets in Europe and cites credible information that ISIL
and al Qaeda continue to plan terrorist attacks on the
continent, especially during the holiday season. In fact,
according to State Department advice to its citizens,
countries such as Morocco, Egypt, Western Sahara, Jordan
and Bolivia are all safer than Europe. Oh, boy.
Yeah, very, very insulting.
Just so you know what I heard because I saw the first I saw
this before it even went out. I saw this was happening happening
between shows. And the thinking is Germany. Christmas, Germany,
Christmas, Germany Christmas. Christmas mark as a Christmas.
That's the chatter.
Oh, it could happen. But this big part too. They finally went
on the street and asked a few people that is our tea. Of
course. They love to go out in the street.
It's always funny. Always.
Can you name some countries that you think the US thinks is safer
to go on holiday to than here?
Probably Australia. Australia. That's all I can really think.
Maybe Japan think of anywhere in Europe. Canada. Australia, New
Zealand scope back
back it up. Back it up? Yeah. You missed the guy saying
Canadia Oh Canadia
Canada, Canadian
fucking mid clip mid
a mid clip for the day. Come on. Come on as we they left that.
They left that income on they left that in Camden? Yeah. I
mean, are they joking us? Are they jokesters? I
don't think so. I don't seem to have much of a sense of humor to
get a smirk. Usually that's about as far as it goes.
That's fantastic. Good. Good work.
Canada Canadia. Australia, New Zealand, Scotland. A different
country. Denmark. I
wonder if they were just reading if the producer had a bad a
piece of paper that read one of these names.
Oh, no. Canadian.
It looks pretty sincere. Hey, I'll
show you the results. US travel warnings mapped out yellow is US
and Europe. We're on alert. Green is
safer, greener. So
that that would be Egypt. Do you find it surprising? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I wasn't expecting that. But um, Sierra Leone Morocco all
green. Surprising
for like all of this, like Africa and everything. Argentina
like yes it is surprising I like that
let me play this jingle that goes along with the caliphate
Love and Light for Florence Henderson loving light. I was
watching on Dancing with the Stars. I liked her so much. Darn
it.
She said Dancing with the Stars that really show that some
people just have great legs their entire life.
Yeah, you're right. Yeah. That's true. Like the keeper. Yeah,
I've got a
I've got a clip that just a little off the wall. It's got
nothing to do with anything we're talking about so far. But
I just thought I was kind of riveted by this. This was a show
where they were interviewing all the NASCAR racers, the ones that
are winning a lot. And they won the cup and whatever. And they
all consider themselves athletes. And I think in some
ways they are this is no different than a horse racing,
jockeys an athlete too. And but this one little thing that Brad
keselowski said, I just and I don't think it's true for all
athletes, but he seems to think it is now who is he? Brad
keselowski is a champion from a couple years ago in the NASCAR.
He's a good racer. He's not one of the he's not the best this
year. But he's ice is always in the top five. Right? And he has
this to say, Yeah, military tank. It's
motivation. And I think by the way, that to be a great athlete
and the professional level. And this is a common theme in
everything I do. That you need to spend money. And I mean,
spend a lot of money. What do you mean? It goes back to
hunger. You need to be hungry to be a great hunter and woods. You
know, and when you're hungry. We are right at the edge of your
limits.
financially. It drives you and what you do. That's why most
athletes go broke.
And nobody really talks about that. But when you spend a lot
of money, it makes you really buckled down when you're
performing.
Hmm, yeah.
Poverty is what this show is so damn good. You're right. You got
no money. We're broke. Yeah.
You know what, when you're hungry, this is that is how
America used to work. You got to work your ass off. Are you going
to be damn hungry? That's the America I grew up in.
And he says that's what most that's why most athletes are
broke. And a lot of them are. I mean, bad money management is
part of the problem. But they do spend a lot I mean, look at
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Why would he have like five Lamborghinis
in one of his rooms in his house? I mean, that's just been
in money for no reason except the art collection, I guess. But
still. And people like you know, they spend money and so they
have no money so they can perform better is his logic. I
don't think that's true for all athletes, by any means because
of the number of they're very successful businessman. But I
just thought that was just strange. I've never heard that
theory.
Well, it kind of boils down to the power structure that
everyone needs to have to do something. That is even if it's
a surrogate activity, they need to do something that tells your
DNA you're working hard for your survival.
That's what his theory Yes. Yeah,
I think he's correct. I hadn't been endorsed. I
do have if you if you read the name of the clip, it's Brad
because Loski psycho.
Do you think do you think that so you think it's psycho really?
I do. Yeah.
Jimmie Johnson, for example, I don't know that. There's a lot
of these guys. I don't see them all just going nuts and spending
all their money spending a lot of money. So they're broke all
the time, so they can perform? Well. I just don't see everyone
doing. There are a number of people that go that way. And
it's obvious he's one of them. Yeah,
I think it's not it can happen to some people. Sure. It
can motivate themselves. They don't need that sort of, you
know, true starvation as motivation. It helps a lot of
people have gotten over that hump. They don't need the they
don't need I do opposition. I do go well, you You seem to Yes.
You have borderline at that guy. Well, I mean
like that guy? You know, it's like Saturday night I'm hanging
out with Tina. I'm like, Oh man, I gotta start working. I gotta
prep and then I think to myself, I think self. You like food,
don't you?
Yeah. Yeah, I have that.
I think you're right thing is why this works. Because we have
taken the vow of poverty on the show.
Are you are you still with me? John? Are you?
Yes, I'm still here. I'm just counting my money from Paper
Mate. 10 minutes to go. Okay.
All right. I got an odd one. Just an odd one. Just kind of a
throwaway. But thanks to GE who sent it to me. This is your your
Public Broadcasting System. This is from PRI knows what the air
on NPR and this is from Science Friday. You know, Science Friday
is really big show and you're thinking and talking about
science. I'm always interested in science. I don't deny
science. And this is the science I got.
I'm learning now that you massage your kale. Molly, is
that what you do with kale, you massage it, that is
definitely something you can do with your kale. So kale has two
issues that I think make it hard to love it raw in a salad. One
is that it's kind of tough. And the second that it can be very
bitter. And to help with the the toughness of kale, massaging and
actually running your fingers over it to help the leaves
loosen up a little bit, you can use a rolling pin over a bag, it
really helps tenderize the leaves. But what happens when
you do that is it makes it the flavor of kale a little bit more
bitter. And that's because the flavor of kale really only
happens when you start to damage the cells within it. Because
then an enzyme interacts with a sulfur containing compound to
create a totally new compound that they wouldn't interact if
the cells weren't damaged. But this new compound is very
bitter.
I see you've got a bag is that a bag of kale,
I do have a bag of kale. We worked really hard on figuring
out how to get kale to taste less bitter. This one is
massaged, massaged kale massaged kale
turn oh wow we did much more bitter
and so one thing in the book was try and figure out how to make
kale less bitter and we discovered that rinsing it after
you massage it and create all this bitter flavor can lessen
the bitterness of the kale Why eat this crap?
That's my question that we did not go answered. It's not food.
It's not edible. I pulled an ISO from it
though rinsing it after you massage it can lessen the
bitterness
Yeah Yes That sounds mood work have
more kale have more kale have more kale have more kale have
more tail have more tail you have you have more tail, you
will obey.
That's right and we will obey I can get the last clip in here.
All right, good. And another time. This is the one who's
really good. Everybody's up in arms about just because he's
cheap. Bass just California again leading the way. Great
California Netflix tax.
Customers a video streaming services like Netflix may be
subject to a new tax. At least a dozen Bay Area cities are
considering a utility type tax on residents who cut the cord on
cable. Critics insist it's illegal to impose taxes on the
internet. But the city of Pasadena just passed one right
now it's on hold because of resident complaints
What is that all about? You tell me those guys in California man.
I think that if
we're not getting enough money this California's California
logic. First of all, they want everyone to get an electric car
or something. So now these cars get 60 miles to the gallon if
the you know hybrids and electric cars get 100 And so
then so now they're all gasoline taxes all the pump taxes have
dropped, the revenues have gone through the floor. Yeah. Well,
they don't know what to oh, this is like getting unintended
consequences or popples more pot and so they Yeah, we got more
potholes. And so what you end up with is a well, let's, we have
to tax the electric car. Just as if as is as you have electric
car, you're gonna pay a tax on it to make up for the fact that
you're not buying gasoline, which was the reason to get the
electric car in the first place. So you didn't burn gasoline?
Yep. The Annapolis series of idiot, idiotic constructs that
go on sorry, it's
the unintended consequences of technology is exactly what
Professor Kosinski wrote about unfolding before your very eyes.
Because once again,
once again, work that into the end of the show. I don't know
how he does it.
It's talents, my friends talent. Alright, everybody, thank you so
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could come up with a new one at ants. Again, ants. Alrighty,
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