Oh man. This is gusting Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 20 of
2016. This is your award winning get no nation media
assassination episode 879. This is no agenda. Tracking the Trump
transition and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the
internet camped out in the sunshine state classified under
FEMA Region four in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're playdough say man
who fires gun at cheese targets shoots the breeze. I'm John C.
Dvorak. Greg Levin, Buzzkill.
Oh, I like it. It works. The breeze. Very nice. Yeah. Funny.
Funny. Hey, you'll be happy to know as we are in location for
this episode of the Best podcast in the universe. That very
expensive iPhone seven plus that I bought. Oh, yeah. Wanna hear
he is delivering
for us. Oh, okay. I thought you guys something bad. No, no,
no, I was gonna say it's fantastic. Because we're in an
air b&b, of course. And they they have an internet and it's
10 megabits up 10 megabits? No, yeah. 10 megabits up. 10 down,
but for some reasons, sluggish I don't know. It's I do the speed
test. I get the you know, I see the the megabits, but even
prepping is like, Oh, this is going to take too long. 10
megabits? How can that be that that's no slow these days.
It's bull crap. That's why I guess you're right. There are
some of these systems that managed to fool. And I think
everybody, I don't know what code they're what kind of code
they've got going back and forth. But it triggers something
this this kind of thing. Tricking tricking tests, has
been a long established kind of a tradition in America,
especially in technology companies, I think, I think
especially in the automobile industry, the automobile
industry, but it was when I was at PC Barcelona at PC Magazine,
when they had their big labs. And they had this one guy who
was kept finding these graphic cards manufacturers. Cheating,
though they would have some code in there that would make the
test results different than what reality was. And I believe that
there's a this happens on everything. And I don't know how
that how they're doing it with these tests, but they're doing
it. Well. I think that so in other words, that is bullcrap
that 10 and 10 Okay,
well, I'll tell you that, of course, they have the Verizon
MiFi that I was bringing with leading and we have a monthly 20
Gig allotment for road shows that slow I mean, you know, it's
just not really zippy. And so
you went to Plan B, what what is the what's the
Verizon T Mobile and the reason I got the iPhone seven plus is
because it has the new radios for the extended reach or
whatever they call it LTE. Because you know, now you can
get T mobile's other transmitters and it is kicking
ass I'm very Abell knock on wood, of course. But it's
kicking ass. I'm very happy. Always got a knock on wood.
Always getting up. And before
we get started with our allotted minutes over,
we're sorry.
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Yeah, but I'm not doing it. Because that would be unfair.
I'd give the best where it would be. It would be exactly that's
where it would be.
So like that you had the woman
screaming the Yoko Ono sing and then he did the mic drop a
couple
just once. I did that once but it's the Mic drop. The people
are complaining loudly about the mic drop down. It's kind of like
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Mikey drops out I don't know when did this start?
Since the complaining started getting loud in the past week.
About the Mic drop. Yeah, yeah. The I think it started on the
face bag.
Yeah, it's at first in the face but oh face bag. Hahaha.
Everybody. So I'm looking at the face bag. John. I know you don't
have an account. And there's a photo posted by Jesse
you know, Jesse, don't you? Yeah.
Which is buzzkill juniors? Why? If, right did she post a picture
of three pairs of socks?
Yeah, that was her announcement. One
little tiny pair.
Yeah,
we have the patter of tiny feet in the DeVore echo household
again. No,
no, they got a poodle.
Okay, you ready for that? I guess. No, I was not good. That
wasn't in the script. Nice one.
Do we know what it is yet?
This is this is rich. They don't want to they don't want they
want to be surprised. Oh, what?
Oh, what? Morons? Oh, my millennial. We want to be
surprised. Oh, man, so they're gonna have nothing, we'll have
nothing but this kid
is hounding him. So you know, but no,
no, the only thing they'll have for the kid because I realized
that this is what's not really the origin of this particular
object. But that's what it's been used for in recent history,
even though it was invented in the 1870s. Safety Pin, you know,
safety pin, of course, although initially meant for pinning
clothes was pretty much used in most of the 20th century for
diapers. Right? How fitting that that is now the symbol of the
millennials. And the nappy, and I tell you
assume that Poland, UK, well, congratulations.
So we don't know what it's going to be. And I guess you're just
gonna not care until it's there. And apparently,
I guess that's what's going to happen. I know I would have
mentioned it on the show. But I figured that they're the ones
it's not my business to pre announce, right. But since it
was announced on a bag, they may have a friend that listens to
this show.
You never know. What
do you know, I don't want to pre announce it before they do.
Because they may have a friend. Oh, no,
no, that's highly unlikely. Highly unlikely by accident.
Just really? Like I tripped and fell and you know, just could
catch my eye on the on the bathroom towel hook. And then I
heard the show. No, I don't think so.
Okay, yeah. So I sent a newsletter out that was about
fake news.
Yes, fake news is is what it's all about.
So my thesis today is about fake news. Oh,
you know what? I'm happy. You say that? Because I got a couple
of fake news, the Sci Fi as well.
And my thing is that most of the fake news that I picked up this
week,
can we do a background on this before you jump right into it? I
think I think
Well, I actually there's a I have a clip. That's a
background, I believe beautiful, which is the fake news clip,
which is in here to give you the last like and find it for you.
Maybe fake news, fake news. One.
Is that a thought? Yeah. would be that would be one of them.
Yeah, they go with that. Well, there's
a fake news one, everybody.
In the week or so since the election, there has been
mounting criticism of whether web giants like Facebook and
Google used enough discretion and editorial responsibility in
screening out fake news sites. A new analysis by BuzzFeed found
that false election stories from hoax sites and hyper partisan
blogs generated more engagement than content from real news
sites during the last three months of the election. Users
shared false stories like this one about Pope Francis endorsing
Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton selling weapons to ISIS hundreds
of 1000s of times even more than real stories. President Obama
weighed in today during his trip to Germany,
if we are not serious about facts, and what's true and
what's not. And particularly in an age of social media, where so
many people are getting their information in sound bites and
snippets off their phones. If we can't discriminate between
serious arguments and propaganda, then we have
problems.
And I actually had this clip, too, of course, but this is what
I think John, you and I have been waiting for. We knew this
was coming. And it's probably fair to say that the genesis of
this fake news came from the Hillary Clinton Clinton campaign
or surrogates, operatives, whatever, who were saying that
this was about besides of course, Jim Comey FBI, besides
of course, misogyny. Besides of course all the it also it was
Facebook who didn't stop the fake news and that's why she
lost
everybody's fault.
Did you read Zuckerberg actual note about this?
I didn't read Zuckerberg is full note. I do have a little clip of
Zuckerberg. Okay, when
I find one, why don't we do that? And then if I need to read
any of the note, we can do that.
Well first just finish this fake news thing. This part to the
discharge is a little more information. Okay.
Hang part.
Craig Silverman worked on the analysis done by Buzzfeed. And
he joins me now. Craig, how do we know Facebook's impact on the
electorate? How did you research this?
Well, what we did was we looked for the biggest 20 hits in the
last three months before the election from sites that publish
fake news or sites that had published something false that
also went viral. And then we looked at the total number of
Facebook engagements for those. And that's a number that
encompasses the comments, the reactions and the shares. And we
decided to compare those to the top 20 real election news hits
from 19 major news organizations. And what we ended
up seeing, which was quite surprising was in those last
three months of the election, compared to the six months
before that the engagement on the top 20 Fake news stories was
actually higher than what you saw for the Real News.
And you found that some of these sites were really new sites, but
still, they had as much power if not more than, say, The New York
Times or The Washington Post.
That was one of the really surprising things to me. I
didn't expect fake news to get more engagement than real news
overall. But to see that the leading fake news site getting
the most engagement had only been registered months before.
And it's top four fake stories got more Facebook engagement
than the top four election stories from the Washington
Post. I mean, that was really surprising.
And you found in some of your investigations that some of
these are sites that were built in Macedonia for more of a
profit motive than a political one.
Oh, man, there's so much so much beauty in here. I know that
you've got a whole thing prepared. So I'm gonna let you
roll, but I think I should do I should read the Zuckerberg
letter.
Well, yes,
I want to read Zuckerberg and then also, so here's what he's
he's gave an example of a fake news story.
My god for 25 years, they've been growing babies in cow
See, this is what I love the chat room and they have great
ideas. Okay. All right, here it is. Zuckerberg note. A lot of
you would ask what we're doing about misinformation. So I want
to give an update. The bottom line is we take misinformation
seriously. Our goal is yes, you may comment. Our goal is to
connect people with the stories they find most meaningful and we
know people want accurate information. We've been working
on this problem for a long time and we take this responsibility
seriously. We've made significant progress, but
there's more work to be done. Historically, we've relied on
our community to help us understand what is fake and what
is not anyone on Facebook and report any link as false. And we
use the signals from those reports along with a number of
others like people sharing links to mythbusting sites such as
Snopes. Snopes, call out for Snopes. To understand which
stories we can confidently classify as misinformation.
Similar to clickbait spam and scams. we penalize this content
in news feed, so it's much less likely to spread. These problems
here are complex both technically and philosophically,
we believe in giving people a voice which means error earning
erring on the side of letting people share what they want
whenever possible. We need to be careful not to discourage
sharing of opinions or mistakenly restricting accurate
content who accurate content. So this difference between fake and
real is accurate. We do not want to be arbiters of truth
ourselves, but instead rely on our community in trusted third
parties. While the percentage of misinformation is relatively
small, we have much more work ahead in our roadmap. Normally,
we wouldn't share specifics about our work in progress. But
given the importance of these issues, and the amount of
interest in this topic, I want to outline some of the projects
we already have underway. Here we go, John, stronger detection.
Boo. Wow. The most important thing we can do is improve our
ability to classify misinformation. This means
better technical systems to detect what people will flag as
false before they do it themselves. This is AI John,
stand back. Easy reporting. making it much easier for people
to report stories as fake will help us catch more information
faster. Third, party verification. There are many
respected fact checking organizations and while we have
reached out to some we plan to learn from many more warnings,
we are exploring labeling stories that have been flagged
as false by third parties or our community and showing warnings
when people read or share them. Related Articles quality, we are
raising the bar for stories that appear in related articles under
links in the news feed, disrupting fake news and
economics who a lot of misinformation is driven by
financially motivated spam. Were looking into disrupting the
economics with AD policies like the one we announced earlier
this week and better ad farm detection. And finally
listening. We will continue to work with journalists and others
in the news industry to get their input in particular, to
better understand their fact checking systems and learn from
them. Some of these ideas will work well and some will not. But
I want you to know that we have always taken this seriously. We
understand how important the issue is for our community and
we are committed to getting this
right There you go. This guy's a doofus.
Let's Plays. Let's play this clip here to prove that point I
just made Okey doke.
While speaking to world leaders and proved today's Zuckerberg
acknowledged the role social media has played in elections.
He also says all websites have a responsibility to ensure
accuracy and fairness on the internet.
We also need to do our part to stop the spread of hate and
violence and misinformation. We can build artificial
intelligence to fight terrorism. But we also need to make sure
that we protect people's privacy.
Zuckerberg plans on including warning labels on false stories
and working with journalists to develop a better fact checking
system. Facebook is hardly the only company struggling to
address this problem. Google has also taken steps just this week
to try to stop fake news writers from making money off of their
ad services.
Yeah, heaven forbid. So let's play the little ISO there of
Zuckerberg, I thought this was an interesting non sequitur.
We can build artificial intelligence to fight terrorism.
But we also need to make sure that we protect people's
privacy.
I know it's beautiful.
So that means one got to do with the other. Oh, well, I use a but
why did you use an end instead of a but I have I ever thought
what did you have a thought? Well, yeah, I'm gonna hear yours
first. What he's
saying is we've built systems to combat terrorism online, which I
guess would be horrible things people post. And the reason you
said but is because they're in completely intruding on your
privacy in the process of doing that. Let's listen to that
again. That's a very good catch.
We can build artificial intelligence to fight terrorism.
But we also need to make sure that we protect people's
privacy. Yeah. Which we're clearly
not doing right now. Nice. Good one.
And he said, and I think I wouldn't have caught it. No. But
then something else. Yeah, but the music is really to me
something's something's wrong than to say but the truth
always wants to come out. But the but the real issue is not
even who determines what fake what is fake. But what is fake.
That's, that's, I mean, she's television by itself. It's very
nature is fake.
Well, that's the second part of my little clip clip edge here.
Okay, what can I do? I believe that if we're going to look at
fake news, and if we're going to take this seriously, the real
fake news purveyors are the network's
give me some examples.
I think I will. I've got lots of examples to show you. Let's go
with NBC. Andrea Mitchell on on Flynn, the general you got all
my clips
down. She says great.
Donald Trump campaigned on shaking up Washington. His first
foreign policy hires live up to that promise for national
security adviser a job that does not require Senate approval for
retired three star Lieutenant General Mike Flynn's a decorated
combat veteran who rose to the top of military intelligence
before being fired by President Obama two years ago, criticized
for ruffling too many feathers, a lifelong Democrat drawing
attention for his strident takedown of Hillary Clinton at
the Republican Convention. Lock her up. That's right. That's
right. Lock her up stunning former colleagues by cozying up
to Vladimir Putin at a lavish dinner in Moscow for Putin's
propaganda on Flynn is outspoken against radical Islam.
There is a disease inside of this Islamic body, right? It's
like cancer.
He'll be the last person talking to the president about national
security decisions. Running an office that has exploded to 400
staffers.
The national security advisor role is the most pivotal because
it plays the role of quarterback for national security policy,
General Flynn is a good and important choice to have given
his experience and background.
Some are questioning whether Finn can be an honest broker
inside the cabinet.
Can General Flynn make that leap? To understand the
diplomatic side of things? I think those are just some of the
questions that are being asked. Hmm. I also have a
clip about and I got a bunch of follow up. That she's this is a
fake news story that she just did.
Can I play the same fake news story from CNN?
And then you can get I don't have the CNN. Yeah,
I do. Let's just throw up this tweet. From Michael Flynn
earlier this year. It says fear of Muslims is rational. And
there's a video on it says please for this to other people.
You know, the truth fears, no questions. What does this tell
us about Donald Trump's worldview going forward? Well,
the
fear is that this double down on his darker impulses about the
Islamic world look, Michael Flynn, General Flynn has made
fair criticisms of how this administration dealt with it.
the rising threat that became ISIS. But then you jumped the
shark into this kind of Islamophobia to indict to say
that Islam is a political ideology, what he has said and
not a religion to indict 4 billion Muslims around the
globe. I mean, that's just that's just short sighted,
ignorant thinking, Jason
one more troubling thing that his Twitter feed reveals. He
tweeted a fake news story that is so over the top. It's absurd.
Let me read it to everybody. You decide. NYPD blows whistle on
new Hillary emails, money laundering, sex crimes with
children, et cetera, must read exclamation point. This comes
from a so clearly fake news site that there's a gullibility that
this suggests that is
troubling. Let's put this in context. On Monday, President
elect Trump selected Steve Bannon to be his
guy. So it's all kind of in one clips. I didn't know where
you're going. But I like this because it has the fake news
story, followed by him with the fake news story, but then
they're gonna wind it up with this black bear fake news story.
Yeah, but there's even this is like going to top the fake news
story,
his senior adviser and this is someone who sympathizes with
white nationalist groups were basically terrorist groups.
Okay, and now
because they have an abandoned, abandoned abandoned thing that
that would fit into, okay, I'll say I'll save that part of it.
That's the one let's go back to the Andrea Mitchell clip. Yeah.
The one part where she says she's extolling this guy's
problems, including him standing there saying lock her up. Lock
her up. If you remember that. Yeah, that was that was flooded
with out of context. This was fake news. The way she did it,
because it was out of context. He did not initiate it made it
sound like lock her up. Like he initiated this. He did not
initiate the locker up thing. Here's the PBS. This is the
Flynn Genesis clip.
Plus, when Genesis Yes,
we do not need a reckless president who believes she is
above the law. That's right. That's right, lock her up.
Of course, out of context, that's the best kind of fit
completely out of context. So I would say that Andrea and
Mitchell's report is insincere. And it's misleading because that
he was just giving his regular speech in the crowd started
chanting this. And then he said, Yeah, like rapture sounds like a
good idea. But she made it sound like he's initiating it, which
is a which is an example of fake news. Now, the other one is this
cancer thing I want to play this is Michael Flynn on on Bill
Maher, where he taught me where he brings up this cancer thing
about Muslims. Okay,
there is a disease inside of this, this you know, Islamic
body, right? It's like cancer.
Right? That's that was it's like cancer, disease within the
Islamic body. Now play the BBC clip BBC on Flynn and the Muslim
cancer and listen carefully.
This is America's next national security adviser General Mike
Flynn, a retired intelligence officer whose views on Muslims,
they've been accused of being Islamophobic. And his speech
this summer, he likened the world's second largest religion
to a malignant cancer.
Islam is a political ideology. It is a political ideology. It
definitely hides behind this idea, this notion of it being a
religion, ladies and gentlemen, the next President of the United
States, Donald J. Trump. But it's precisely
that kind of outspokenness, and his experience of
counterterrorism that's made him such a trusted adviser.
You know, John, not only did they clip off the end, where it
puts it into context, they're a state sponsored news outlet.
They're a state sponsored news outlet and if you want to I want
to play this clip again, because this guy clearly calls him out.
He associates Muslims with malignant he dug into the word
malignant was never used in any of these quotes, but he says
malignant cancer, then he plays a clip, as if the clip backs him
up. Yep. And there's nothing in the clip.
This is America's next national security adviser General Mike
Flynn, a retired intelligence officer whose views on Muslims,
they've been accused of being Islamophobic. And a speech that
summer, he likened the world's second largest religion to a
malignant cancer.
Islam is a political ideology. It is a political ideology. It
definitely hides behind this is this notion of it being a
religion. Ladies and gentlemen, the next President of the United
States, Donald J. Trump,
but it's precisely that kind of outspokenness, and his
experience of terrorism has made him such a trendsetter.
This is the worst of the group
unbelievable shameful, shameful, from the state sponsored NBC
state sponsors the BBC. Yes.
God, that clip to me was enough that it may have just made me
sick.
That clip is enough to not only make me sick, but to him And out
the clip of the Global Health deserve deserved. Nailed it.
I'll have other fake news along the way.
Yeah, I'm sure you will. I have here, but I'm gonna play that
guy. Now. We don't have to get into ban and just this moment,
but just what fake news news has done to this commentator on CNN
is astounding. He's got
a national security adviser who has said that Muslims should be
feared, who's made very, very aggressive statements about
countries that we have to interact with across the globe.
And he's also appeared on Russian television, state
sponsored Russian television. This is dangerous and tweeting
out fake news suggest to me that not only is he going to continue
to spread the kind of violent rhetoric that he did throughout
the campaign, he'll continue to do it once he's in office once
he's in a position of power, and that is dangerous for everyone
in this country.
Oh my gosh, he's appeared on Russian TV.
Oh, no.
We're going to die for sure. It's
Ed Schultz is on Russian TV. Larry King is on Russian TV.
I mean, I have I have more just outrageous fake news stories,
which is if you think about it, we are the fake news filter for
the mainstream media. That's what we've been doing for going
on nine years now. At least we try and we're not always
successful. And we're not always right. But damn, and we
were doing better than and 10 years. We just had our ninth
anniversary. Sorry.
I lost track darlings. Sorry. Did I did you get my card? And
the flowers?
I did.
Here is the CNN panel on one of my favorite lies about Mike
Pence. And I have researched this guy. And just yeah, this is
Angela. Angela Ray. She is the former Black Caucus staffer who
is now a CNN commentator and I want to
play it. Let me just let me just push back a little bit. I think
this is in relation to the Hamilton fractious and that and
which was quite interesting, which was interesting because he
of course the people who were in the Hamilton I mean, Dean and I
want to see Hamilton I couldn't get tickets for Hamilton. I
can't afford the tickets for Hamilton. But okay, the former
assistant, the gofer for the Black Caucus. Yes, she had no
problem
is so important because of who Alexander Hamilton was. And this
cast, which I happened to get to see this musical last year, we
spent way too much money on tickets. Call me an elite. I'm
just being honest, like it was a sacrificial offering to go to
this way. And what I want and
I assert that you still aren't elite, if even if it was just a
sacrificial offering. I don't think you had to kill your
children. But still, most people can't sacrifice $800 minimum.
And what I want to say is this. This cast is so far from the
elites. This cast is the representative of the American
dream. They worked hard. They pulled themselves up by
bootstraps before they had the boots on. They worked really
hard to
unlike anyone else in show business make it in crap. Was
she kidding? like and unlike anyone else of any color creed.
Broadway's works their asses off. Are you kidding me?
Yes, we're kidding you. It's fake news.
There. There wasn't space for the material. No, you said the
race doesn't matter in this space. Oh, but it does. And I'm
talking about the way the way that there's folks with each
other and work with each other, nothing. More, not the story
that we can tell. But this cast is diverse. They had a Latino
man playing Alexander Hamilton, they eliminated race barriers to
this play. And the one thing that I would say that's so
important to frame this is the lead character playing Hamilton
now no longer Lin Manuel, Manuel sorry, he is openly gay, openly
gay, HIV positive man and let's talk about how you said he was
he was part of out but magazine's 100
You notice Don Lemon is again, only thinking about himself.
He's part of out magazine's 100. But yeah, because he's in there,
too. He's trying to get his name. And I was in that article
too, along with the openly gay HIV Latino man
against a vice presidential now or elect vice president elect
who wanted to use HIV AIDS money for conversion therapy. Can you
imagine what that's like for that? So
tired of this lie? This really target
is a blatant lie. We've produced documentation on the show over
and over again. You This is your little thing. Yeah. And it's a
rageous that that this is fake news. You're right. And
where's everyone saying? Oh, that's so hold on a second
nuance that a little no
role for conversion therapy. Can you imagine what that's like for
that man in that space? I think we can't just always say, you
know, it's about the elites or whatever. We have to like, look
at things for their full experience. Right. And
all Don Lemon says, right? Yeah, that's right. Please, this is so
just
you know, not as you didn't slide Do I really dislike that
one?
I noticed you brought this clip into play by now it may now that
whole thing that took place on him too, because you know,
that's what they think they think there was actually
something that said aids money should be turned to conversion
therapy. Yeah, they all the people in that play believe that
that's why they did the show stop. Well, it wasn't a show it
was at the end
of the show. Yes, of course they do. Of course, they do that and
this is the sad thing is I can't blame them for believing that
you've been subjected to what is it called? Oh, yeah, fake news.
Lies, absolute fabrication and lies. And, and it's just getting
rampid I mean, we're gonna have a field day with this. It's
gonna be real easy.
Well, I'm telling I think over the next year, people thought
we're doing a splendid job over the last like two or three
months of the election. The way I'm seeing it, when I'm
listening to the current clips coming out and some of the
things these guys are doing. I think it's going to getting
worse. UVs for example, it is lately turn nuts. It's as if and
PBS is now they're showing their corruption to pbs NewsHour I'm
talking about Yeah, has just, obviously somebody on their
board or you know, so one of the donors or some, some underwriter
has gotten on their case for being a little, I guess wimpy
during the election and trying to be objective. And then PBS
has gone out of his way to just go in the other direction.
Listen to this. This is a clip. I gotta get this right clip. ABS
long Expo on Flint. Oh, well, I got a I got three clips. I don't
want to start hogging clips here. But clip auger. My clip
auger. That's play. There's a one here. Look for the old
fridge. Let's start with the obituary the old bid for it.
This guy, okay. I've never seen PVS do this. They do an obit for
a dead CEO who hasn't been the CEO of the company for maybe 20
years. He's just a random CEO. I've never seen anything like
this is for Archer Daniels Midland number one for illegal
real legal actions. And you know there's a big sponsor of of this
of the news play this obit for ADM guy.
And the man who made Archer Daniels Midland into a food
industry giant has died. Dwayne Andrei has passed away
Wednesday, he took over ADM in 1970 and built a dominant
position in everything from ethanol to corn syrup. He
stepped down in 1997 after a price fixing scandal. ADM was
also a major underwriter of the NewsHour for years, Dwayne
Andreas was 98 years old.
Oh, good. At least they at least they said that.
Yeah, they did have a disclaimer in there. But I have never seen
anything like that, where they do an obit for one of the
underwriters, who's not even currently wasn't been
underwriting for the last 20 years. They obviously somebody
at Orchard, Midland came and said, what you got to do this?
Well, John,
I'll be fair if one of our producers passed away, and this
has in fact happened. But we've been asked to stop and say
something
we have. Yeah. But we do it for all of them. We don't do it some
selective guy. Well, this is true.
I mean, if we only had one death in the family so far, we don't
know how we'll respond to the next one.
Well, no, I thought that was I thought that was bad for him.
But here's the one here's douche on Breitbart. Here's a guy who
comes on he's just one of the one of the two they always have
two guys, right there was these two commentators, right? So now
they have these two guys. And both of these guys are against
them administration, the new administration. And this one guy
goes off on Breitbart, if being a misogynist or white
supremacist, and she has to back him off, but she doesn't such a
wimpy way of gotta listen to this. Ideally,
if we could set aside the politics for a moment, but some
of these things are not political, when you go and take
somebody who's run a publication that's white supremacist,
misogynist publication and appoint him right next door to
the president in the White House. That sends a message
particularly in Europe right now, where there's a rising tide
of the right, one of those people who he's appointed. Steve
Bannon has already sent a message to the LePen team who's
going to contend for the presidency of France next year,
extreme right wingers and so he's saying, Look, we will help
you we are part of this rising tide of the right. So actions
are being taken, choices are being made and the consequences
are serious.
And you're and we should say that the Breitbart News
organization argues against the characterization, that it's
white supremacist, But setting that aside, MICHAEL PILLSBURY,
what about this? This argument? Stop it already by his
statements.
Yeah, it was about it. deppa in an article here that Breitbart
News is planning on filing a lawsuit against a, quote, major
media company. And you know, you're gonna see this happen,
because if you're just calling people fake news, and you're
putting them on lists as fake news, I believe.
Yeah, I've been reading Breitbart for years on and off.
It does real reporting. Yeah. And I'd like to ask that, you
know, a member we in fact, have that couple of people that got
assaulted by Lewandowski, whatever the guy's name is at
the Trump campaign. Yeah. We're at Breitbart before they made
such a fuss. But when was it white supremacist? I've never
noticed that in there. They get this not Stormfront. Do they
have a clue? Tor front. Stormfront there's a white
supremacist group go there are and misogynist. What is that?
Where's that coming from? Because they didn't like
Hillary. This is like, this is what you were just witnessed on
PBS newshour was fake news. Kind of give you didn't have the gall
to say no, no, no, that's not right. The way to describe it is
oh, no, they're fake news. White supremacist.
Let me give you another piece of fake news. Because what I found
myself doing was all these things that were just being
said, particularly about the Trump transition team, then no i
So of course, there are three actual announcements of
positions. And one of those is, is Senator Sessions I don't know
that much about and, you know, sort of don't know much about
the CIA guy. But you know, when I hear things like, I'm gonna go
investigate and see what you know, where does this come from?
And CNN actually kind of answered it for me.
It's likely sessions alleged racist comments in the past that
cost him a federal judgeship.
Now, of course, the key is right off the bat saying alleged but
that's not really been the way it's explained. It's like, you
know, the guy is a he he's a white supremacist. And this is
sessions and we're just pulling it all out. And here's the so
called Proof of this allegedly.
White Nationalism, it's likely sessions alleged racist comments
in the past that cost him a federal judgeship will resurface
during the confirmation hearing. During his 1986 confirmation
hearings. Colleagues testified he called the NAACP quote
unAmerican and communist inspired an African American who
had worked under sessions testified that Sessions called
him boy and joked about the kk k, saying he was okay with them
until he learned that they smoked marijuana. This assertion
is ludicrous. Odd to test the Klan.
Very interesting. They put that in there. I thought that this
was something that there was actual evidence of audio
videotape. Now. It's some guy who said well, he called me boy
and he said, he made a joke about it, which of course can
all be in context or not the best, it's very different from
the way it's being portrayed.
Well, here listen to Andrea Mitchell do her thing on
sessions. This is NBC Andrea Mitchell on sessions. Then
there's President Elect Trump's pick for attorney general.
Veteran Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions are hardliner on
immigration. Rejected by the Senate 30 years ago for a
federal judgeship. After accusations he had made racist
comments. I am not a racist. I am not insensitive to blacks
decades later, after Ferguson and Black Lives Matter. Tonight
civil rights lawyers are speaking out. He has
demonstrated hostility towards our nation's civil rights and
equality. And that is cause for concern.
But supporters plenty sessions vote to extend the Voting Rights
Act and to confirm Eric Holder.
Okay, now I want you to you got to remember what you said at the
end. I was listening to it. I know very well, the Voting
Rights Act.
And that is cause for concern.
But supporters pointed sessions vote to extend the Voting Rights
Act and to confirm Eric
Holder now,
of course they do this the way they're presenting the news now
they blast blast blast I throw a few things in at the end this is
I want everyone to pay attention this this way as guns is
important. Go you got blast, blast, blast blast blast, but he
did he also the you know he likes puppies. Very and and so
they'll people come up and say well, you never said anything.
Well, no, no, we said it. We said right. The NSA was in
there. Now here is Jeff Sessions on Democracy Now. Now with it in
mind that Andrea Mitchell mentioned that he did support
the voting rights act when it was as it was being thrown out.
Now listen to this report.
Back in the United States. Donald Trump has chosen Alabama
Senator Jeff Sessions to be Attorney General Sessions as a
former prosecutor who was elected to the Senate in 1996.
As an Alabama Senator, he's consistently supported anti
immigration legislation. In 2010. He was a leading proponent
of the efforts to repeal the 14th Amendment, which grants
citizenship to everyone born in the United States. Jeff Sessions
has also been a vocal opponent of the Voting Rights Act in
1986. President one A nominated sessions for a federal
judgeship. But he was denied confirmation because of his
history of racist comments, including reportedly saying he
thought the Ku Klux Klan quote was okay. Until I found out they
smoked pot, unquote.
Now, a couple of things. One, she she was the opposite of
Andrea Mitchell about the Voting Rights Act. She said he was
fighting against it. Yeah. So assuming NBC has more resources
than Democracy Now, which is reasonably Shiite, from what I
can tell, and don't have, they don't have any reporters out
there. She's lying. Someone is so that's so that's fake news.
Yeah. The other thing was, is that when she said she does this
all the time, and it really bugs me, he supposedly said or she or
he was reported to say, or some of this this crap about the Ku
Klux Klan and then marijuana is like a double double hit. You
know, he's a hates GA, and Pa abusers and, you know, pot
and what happened? And how can that be a direct quote when I
saw the documents a marijuana because the report that I had
had a copy full screen of what he allegedly said that was
testified to and it said until I found out they smoke marijuana,
quote, unquote, she just
in quotes, she says great uncaught she's always doing this
quote, unquote, thing about a legend statements. Yeah,
that wasn't even close to the alleged. And
it wasn't even accurate. Yeah, this? I would. I would,
yeah. I'm sorry. We didn't have fake
news. Now should be on the list. We need to fake news. And we
don't want you know, we need a list. There you go. A list.
Okay, maybe it'd be easy to just say who is not fake? Because
this list is gonna be too long. That's all news has fake news or
wrong news. I mean, all news. And how do I know this? Once
you've been interviewed a couple of times by I don't know. Yeah,
the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, financial times have
been interviewed by all of them. They all get something wrong.
That's not necessarily because they're evil, but you don't get
it right. It's just how it is just how journalism works. It's
not possible, at least in my view, you don't get it right.
And you asked me and here's what I told you. And you still wrote
it down differently. You could say, That's fake news. The New
Yorker magazine, here's the editor of the New Yorker. I'm
not sure I think it was on with CBS
at 90 minute meeting between President Obama and Donald
Trump,
I think you're the closest to a fly in the wall as we can get.
Okay, so now we've heard all the news about this meeting,
although no one actually knows what happened in the meeting.
But this guy kind of says that he might have an idea sort of
wild fake.
Did you learn about what happened in
New Year hear that the President is not in fact, I asked him
about that naturally, as any of you would. And he said, well,
and he smiled, and he said, I'll tell you all about it. over a
beer off the record, meaning for the moment now certainly for the
next couple of months, he's playing a close to the vest,
what I do know about that
mean, which means he didn't tell the guy anything. He didn't tell
him, he said, but I'll tell you over a beer, which a couple of
months and then obviously launches into well, what I do
know even though the President didn't tell him, I'm going to
assume Donald Trump didn't tell him I don't know who else was in
the meeting. Who else was there to tell him what happened
know about that meeting, is let's just say that Donald Trump
did not show him to himself to be any more sophisticated about
policy than he seemed to be in the debates or in the campaign.
But that Trump is he solicitous and that he was kind of in shock
and ought to coin a phrase about the response he didn't coin a
whole lot. Yes, he
No, he's not do coin a phrase means to coin a phrase not to
steal a phrase.
Fake news for a crime. said, yeah, the phrase was already
coined by a Republican President, as he was killing
brown people in the sand
about the responsibilities of actually being president and
Obama said to him, Look, this was one thing I know and one
thing that Obama has revealed that governing is not the same
as campaigning,
circus is over. Okay, so listen to this. He says the one thing I
know that the President has revealed is that governing is
not like campaigning Yeah, he said that publicly. I don't
recall the the circus is over quote unquote No, I
don't recall that either. I think he made that up.
Of course, he made that up fake news.
This what is one thing I know and one thing that Obama has
revealed revealed that governing is not the same as campaigning
circus is over
circus is over. Okay, so it's all at all all of this so called
nominees everything is fake news. No one knows anything. I
think I have another hit piece here from CNBC.
He's already making an impression here.
I know this is Uh,
maybe British I forget which, maybe Scott
he's already making an impression here on sale in
Moscow. The Trump of old gold plated with his portrait.
Russian artists of Russian politicians.
They weren't. John, that's a BBC.
Okay. Yeah, they're talking about how the Russians love
Trump and another fake news story
Russian politicians posing as him. In the village of Kasim
Abba, a rare honor indeed, they've declared Donald an
honorary Cossack.
Because unlike most US presidents, Trump wants good
relations with Russia says Cossack cheap and Ray and
because he has a beautiful Slavic wife who
makes nothing but sense yeah, that was
BBC is a beautiful slaving love
so I think the BBC is one to look at because I'm watching
especially BBC America but UK Katie Katie K or whatever her
name is the one of the three women that hosts the American
version of the BBC News right and she's beside herself with
distress over this thing oh,
this is the one that yeah, I remember Yeah.
The British are very upset by this and so they so they're
doing fake news to just slam him out or what good is gonna do I
don't know I just don't get that we're what they expect to
accomplish besides just create a lot of ill will. But we'll see
I've noticed it on the Twitter's I only did a few tweets on my
newsletter, this last one. But it's still going on. I mean, I
can name this various guys. A lot of Hollywood types are just
completely nuts. They don't know, apparently have anything
else to do. But what do tweet after tweet after tweet after
tweet lies they say about one thing or another?
Now, let's just talk about the implications of this. As I said
at the beginning of the show, I think this is what we've been
waiting for. We knew this was coming this day, then this is
how it's being ushered in is okay. The fake news affected the
election fake news. Is, is rampant is what this
administration, the new incoming administration believes in fake
news. So we are going to have to come up with a Ministry of Truth
or ministry of truthiness.
Maybe I need to be better. Licensing journalist is always a
winner
has right licensing journalists podcast license, of course, we
have podcasts license.com, which is good. It'll be good for about
three seconds. When the actual regulations come down the
pipeline, that should be fun. But here's what I don't
understand. With all the technologists and all the tech
horny news shows, and everybody is so freakin smart about oh,
we're gonna use algorithms and AI. Doesn't it make infinitely
more sense? And I think we should start one. We've already
done this before we did this years ago. And we need to do it
again. But now we need to take a more serious approach. If your
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I'm reminded of net nanny, which apparently is one that many
modern net nanny Yes, you're right, keeping these sites away
from you. So you don't read the fake news. You don't get to see
you don't go and see Breitbart, the white supremacist site
instead of Operation Paperclip its operation safety pin me go
right in the safety pins to write the exact right. Symbol.
Yes. It's totally the right symbol. Net nanny. Yeah, but but
the thing is, instead of you know, everyone just waiting for
Facebook and Google to do it. This could even be a this could
be a national look, if you're so triggered by all this stuff.
Then we'll have you know, you can have the sanctioned
government you know, have a slider
switch on your dashboard.
Ooh, slider switch. Yes. Like oh, yes. More fake. Less fake.
Nice. Yes. No, I think you can have multiple slider switches.
Yeah, I want a little bit of fake news. I want a little bit
of porn advertising. It's a tad want to.
I want to slide the sliders. People love the sliders. Yeah,
we need some sliders.
I do have The ultimate fake news story, which I thought was just
so beautiful in this, this entire conversation about fake
news, because we weren't Of course we know where the real
fake news is. And then I know for multiple reasons I know
mainly because a lot of what this outfit reports on me is
fake news. You can say false inaccurate, but I prefer the
term fake since that seems to be what everyone uses. And this was
this played out in was it was a special Senate session and
oversight session, I believe, with Representative Nunez, along
with multiple dishes from the Pentagon, including our friend
Clapper, before he quote unquote, resigned.
Are you familiar with Wikipedia? The free online encyclopedia?
Yes. And Mr. Clapper,
generally, generally generally, generally, sir,
what an asshole I'm sorry. What kind of answer is that? Even?
Generally, generally, yeah. Generally?
Does the Department of Defense or the intelligence community
edit Wikipedia pages on behalf of the US government? I really
can't speak authoritatively on that. I know I've I personally
have never edited a Wikipedia page.
I don't know off the top my head I don't think so. But I don't
know
how he's always good at the at the hedge isn't the off the top
of my head. Just don't go any below it where I have the actual
information. Well, he's got to be more careful now than ever.
Oh, he knows. Yeah. Because he's a liar. He lied to Congress that
both okay, I'm dying to top of the top of my head. I don't
know. I don't think
so. But I don't I
don't think so. Is this the right answer? Like I performed
what he should have did? That's the answer he should have given?
Yeah. When he had when he when he perjured himself. Why didn't
just
say I can't recall. I mean, that's what everyone does. I
can't recall.
I don't know. I don't think so is a better answer. Okay,
knowledge,
whether or not it happens or not, sir. And does the DoD or
the IC use Wikipedia as an official source of information?
I just don't know. Congressman,
I would have to look into that. I don't know offhand.
off hand, another good one. And this guy, oh man has ever been
already checked out here. Like I'm resigning tomorrow.
I don't know. I know
that the department and IC community uses a lot of open
source information. Don't know what source or not Wikipedia is
one of those open sources. Well, Deputy Secretary Work on March
21. Tech you and Director Clapper
may what is technically it's not open
source, no Creative Commons.
The department and IC community uses a lot of open source
information. I don't know whether or not Wikipedia is one
of those open sources. Will Deputy Secretary Work on March
21. You and Director Clapper met with Chairman Thornberry
Chairman Frelinghuysen and myself to discuss the analysis
required. There's the trap, set it open by the National Defense
Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2016. Regarding the joint
intelligence analysis complex slated to be built at the crown
airbase in the UK, do you do you recall that meeting? I do
indeed, sir. Director Clapper, do you recall that meeting? So
do
well? Yeah, sure. Of course. There's some I remember. Yeah.
So if we had a great time, remember that we were hanging
out? We had a nice lunch, but a good didn't even a little
meaning. You're gonna have to remember the hookers? Oh, yeah,
I sure do. That's great. Sorry, Charlie. Oh, you just stepped
into the trap who
recall that meeting? So do Secretary Work you informed the
committee that Department of Defense did not intend to fully
re reevaluate lower cost alternative sites for the
Intelligence Center. As justification for your decision.
You provided the committee with two documents regarding
communications infrastructure supporting largest field in
Portugal's Azores Islands. I'm gonna ask the clerk to Please
distribute exhibit one and exhibit two row which includes
one of the documents provided as justification. What could it be
parliament's decision, Secretary of work? Are you aware that
significant portions of this document that you pass to three
committee chairmen to meet a public law were plagiarized from
Wikipedia? Well, sir, I can state with certainty that I did
not provide exhibit two. Oh, start digging. I have never seen
exhibit two.
I have no idea.
I can I can help you explain it exhibit two. Or the Wikipedia
pages that were plagiarize for exhibit one that you provided to
meet the public law? I see. I see. No, I did not know that.
The information you want to hear more gay? It's still funny. I
don't I think he gets a little more than that point document
came from Wikipedia. Okay, so you can see basically all of the
graphics in this, what you provided us everything that's
highlighted. That was all taken directly out of what we have in
Exhibit two, to provide to three committee chairmen to fulfill
the national the requirements and National Defense
Authorization Act row. I'm just alarmed. Secretary of work that
we would rely on Wikipedia a free online encyclopedia that's
famously known for most high school students plagiarizing
their homework. And that he would even that the Department
of Defense would even use Wikipedia, a free online service
to provide any information to Congress to put in any report
now it goes on and on. So there that's real fake news being used
by our defense or our trillion dollar defense industry.
Great on believable, really, to me, and then and when I like
is unbelievable, because I mean, they have they have the
resources, they have tons of people, they have the resources
to do it. Right. So why they just go grab a Wikipedia page,
slap it together and give it to Congress and tell them to eat
it? Yeah, I don't know. It's beyond me.
i Before we take a break a little extra mile. I'm okay.
Yeah. Because, of course, we're still afraid, you know, we're
very afraid, afraid
to be afraid of this time.
I will just racism misogyny, horrible thing. Oh,
misogyny and xenophobia, xenophobia? That will? Yeah,
well, you seem to have dropped xenophobia, which is Baba, which
is bothering me, because I was of the opinion that the word
xenophobia and xenophobia was going to be word of the year. QA
because nobody's ever heard this word before, like I have. Right.
And you have in Europe, the public in large, didn't know
what it meant until, you know,
what did become the word of the year? Well,
it's not the year still going.
I thought I saw a news article about the word.
Well, maybe for that, I would hope that they let the year
finish before they have the word of the year.
Now. It's kind of like the Oscars. Not here. Stephen
Colbert goes off on Oxford's Oxford dictionary's word of the
year. Then that came out. Let me see what it says here.
Post truth and
fake news. All right. Post truth is 2016 is most important word
according to Oxford.
Last Oxford launched important that's yeah, I'd rather have
them Merriam Webster. I think they do one. I think there's a
couple of American dictionaries as opposed to Oxford, which
usually have these popular words that became you know, popular
that year. Right. Like selfie, I think was like last year, the
year before? Yeah, stuff like that. All right, well,
we still have to be very afraid because as you know, the Trump
people are just haters violent. They're doing all kinds of
horrible, horrible things. And well, you know, who the arbiters
are of all things frightening. It is the ladies of the view,
this is America, black people are not going anywhere. They're
not going to be slaves anymore. So take that out to hit born
here
is that your will be
as Americans are not going anywhere. And they're not going
to we're not going anywhere. I don't know why you don't get
this part. But that being harassed.
Lips, yes. They all said they were going somewhere, they're
all going to leave the country. Oh, they're not going anywhere.
They're not going anywhere. I mean, if they promised to leave
the country, if we voted in Trump, we voted in Trump, so
they would leave the country. That was the idea.
In fact, that's why a lot of people voted Trump
I'm sure I think that's the reason Trump won.
I think she meant something else when she says we're gonna get
out get out of mine one time, she meant something else. Okay.
going anywhere. I don't know why you don't get this part. But the
thing harassed. We're all being being harassed. Somebody I know.
gay boy. A friend of mine.
I love this. Imagine anyone saying friend of mine, gay boy.
Come on people. What since when is this? Okay? Why is the gay
boy Elizabeth?
And they're not going to we're not going somewhere. I don't
know why you don't get this part. But they're being
harassed. We're all being being harassed. Somebody I know. gay
boy, a friend of mine.
How does that work? Since when can I get away with that? You
can't say I'd be the gays. But it's okay to say to a friend. He
was a friend of mine. So I call him a gay boy. Come on. You know
that he is a LGBTQ plus community member who happens to
be your friend.
These people are outrageous. Terrible gay boy.
People are being harassed somebody I know. gay boy. A
friend of mine, put on Facebook that he was on 10th Avenue in
New York the other day and some somebody I'm a Trump supporter.
I mean, this is happening in New York City now. Well, there's a
real driver last night, Ober driver, who was a Pakistani guy
and he said that he's frightened. What kind of country
is this now? Well, the people that are not sit back and just
take it because they have all the power in the White House. In
the Senate. In the House of Representatives. The FBI is in
their pocket. We have to we have to be the one Opposition in this
country.
They are Inchon the royal opposition.
They are going to does she say loyal? Loyal?
No just Royal? Yes, he says royal
to be the loyal opposition in this oil.
Listen again I
think she was mum.
We have to we have to be the loyal opposition in this
I'm telling you she's I've watched the clip I couldn't
believe what she said to her. I mean, I'm not a liberal
opposition. She was between words or something Royal
and loyal but how you have different mouth forming and it
was an art it was actually it was a Royale with cheese I think
is what she wants
in this country. That's what we're here for.
But I will say there was also and by the way my optimism was
just about the photo ops that bringing in going from here but
there you know in fairness to there was a there was a guy that
was wearing Make America Great Again hat on the subway and was
totally beat up down in DC there was a woman I know but I'm just
saying it's on both sides. And
let's try this out. How about royal as an ROI l
How about that are? Oh, boy loyal opposition? Yeah.
I can see eBay heart coming up with that. Yeah,
I can't do yeah, I'll take it.
We're seeing incidents from anger on both sides. And that's
why I think the onus is on our leaders to come out and say,
Please, peacefully protest then is your constitutional right
introduction to more violent violence. I
agree. Never okay. I was waiting with all these protests. I
thought Trump would come out. And you know, we've all said it
would help right now the problem is his silence is letting his
appointments speak forces. Those,
I'm amazed that he's not listening to the women of the
view.
And he's come out a number of times. There's the views not
playing. He has
to come out in front of Trump Tower and confront the
protesters. That's what she's talking about.
get rocked of the throwing rocks at the guy. It's sort of scary
because the violence is obvious. You do see all the riots going
on. It's not the I don't see any Trump riots gone. Oh, baby.
Oh, baby. Got a little bit less than this clip
for him. That's right. And those are scary.
Those his appointments are scary.
Scary disagree that we're seeing it on both sides.
I think too many people are saying that I think there's this
false equivalency, you see?
And remember, John, before we get to the false equivalency,
remember, yes, they're afraid because when you just like the
Hamilton cast, they're afraid of pens. The gay boy, a gay boy is
afraid of pens. Of course he is if he's been told that they
wanted the pens specifically wants to take away his HIV
treatment bid funds funds and channel it towards conversion
therapy. Yeah, you're just scared of course
you are. Despite the fact there's no evidence of this
correct. And but I'm I cannot discount the fear. You know, so
here in the reason we're here in Florida, you know, nice little
trip for us. But of course, Tina, you lived here for I think
16 years. So I'm on display you know, and it's cool. I took her
to meet my family and everything is a little bit she heavy a
strip naked put a collar around your neck. Yeah. And I got like
this tiger print on and everything is perfect. Yeah,
tiger print string G string. And she has friends who voted for
Trump and she has friends who voted for Hillary. And
I would sorry, I would guess that the Hillary brands are more
numerous.
Well, I we've only had
two friend dinners so far. Tonight. We have a third and
then tomorrow night with Horowitz Well, I'll tell you,
what I found very interesting. Is her really super Hill bought
friend like massive super Jewish, interestingly, from New
York, who's lived here for 1520 years. She because she was she
looked at Tina and she went well. She Well, here's the
here's how the dinner started. This is better. And I had met
her before and I but I've seen her Facebook and it's like, you
know, every misogynist race has all of that in every every
single thing we've heard she's posting
xenophobia, all of it, and trying to keep it alive.
Right. And I don't think she knew this because she was in
Austin and we went out to dinner and I you know, but then she
said well, so we're sitting down to dinner. Well, I listened to
your show. It's never good. Well, I listen to your show. And
well you know, I really really liked the 30 cents on the dollar
you guys were talking about with the with Obamacare and how you
could do and you know the problems with that tidbit. There
were other things I just had to turn it off. I couldn't listen,
I couldn't listen to Hey, how you doing? What would you like
to drink before we have dinner?
But listen, why?
Because of the things were so offensive that we said the
things we were saying were so offensive to her. But I will
say, because of course, she had met me before, she didn't know
what we talked about on the show. And I can see where you've
you know, no matter who you are, you can come in and think these
guys are douchebags for x, y, you could think about any, could
we offend equally or as equal as possible? Yeah, but because she
knows, you know, she knows and loves Tina and beyond. She had
met me before. And she was really open to listening me to
some points of view. And all I was trying to do is just say,
well, these are the things that you've been told. But, you know,
the way you're recounting them are not exactly the way it
happened. And she was rich, I have to say she was very open to
listening. But what got me at the end my conclusion, my
takeaway, and this is for all the friends of course, women,
but I'm meeting the husbands too. They really are just afraid
of violence and an evil world. And that's what it's consistent.
We just want just one. We just want people to be, you know,
stop the killing and the very afraid of the violence.
I think that's what George Bush and Dick Cheney preyed upon.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's really too extreme, especially with all
those Oh, they remember the yellow alert, your orange alert,
and yeah, all the green, there's never green, because we're
always under, you know, it's always dangerous, always orange.
Whereas as we know that if you look statistically, we live in
the safest world ever.
Right? Ever, you're more likely to get hit by lightning, and we
haven't so
bad, but our brains are no mine is to our brains are completely
fried from the massive inputs of information, of which a lot, if
not most, is fake news. So yeah, but that was the takeaway. And
actually, when I heard that, I'm like, you know, I get it. I get
it. You've been terrorized. Just absolutely spin
terrorist. Now, here's what's disappointing to me when you
want to hear stories like this, because we have a lot of
producers and people that just listen to never help. But we
have a lot. And we get a lot of notes from many of them. And
they're always talking about how the show is, again, has a
calming effect, because we get this out of their system as best
we can. And it seems to me that people like her, probably prefer
being terrorized. Because we're the antidote to that. We're not
making it worse. Right?
Interesting. Interesting. Yes, yes. Wow, I hadn't thought of it
that way. And it's not like she's obviously very intelligent
woman. It's not like she should say, oh, I want to be
terrorized. But there is something that some programming
that's going on where we just we seem to need more of it. You hit
an interesting point there.
Yeah, we need endorphins for all I mean, do you remember when
kids
when I was a kid, the scariest thing for me was the Wii G board
Yeah, I didn't have any of this other stuff. Oh man the Wii G
board and freaking out my my mom we did we G board
all that good stuff.
So I want to pick this up in a moment. But you just said you
know, obviously it's so true. We are the antidote is we're not
here to make it where it I think you're right. I don't recall us
really ever. We have been talking about reality. But don't
think we've ever really been fear mongering about anything.
In fact,
just the opposite. We talked about how these things are like
the swine flu was a big one was a bullshit thing. Today we'll
probably talk a little bit about how ZTE has been pulled off the
list is a phony baloney. We call that from the beginning. Is that
what it was and you actually broke down the billion dollars
or $1.9 billion exactly well with that everybody everything
but Zika so we do try
to be antidote and sometimes you know the antidote sometimes
nastier than than the venom itself but wow, philosophical
with that. I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the
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all right, I got a couple of things I just wanted to hook
into the into the post election and analysis and it was it was
great. Um, you know how people go on European news shows and
now think anyone's watching particularly like some stupid
small ass country that no one really knows much about all
I know is your I know what you got. But I This has always got
I've always been highly amused by this too. I love what was the
last week you can go overseas and be on some obscure show and
say what you want. Yeah.
But the no agenda show has its producers globally. So when you
think as just a stupid Dutch stupid Netherlands, what do they
know? I can say whatever I want. I'm Sidney Blumenthal dammit.
I'm an important man. I can tell you what really went down why
Hillary didn't win. It was the result of a cabal of a right
wing agents of the FBI in the New York office
attached to
Rudy Giuliani,
who was a member of Trump's campaign, and I think it's not
unfair to call it a coup. The coup we've called d'etat, a coup
d'etat job. It's fair to call it
this guy has his nerve. Yeah, it's a coup d'etat was illegal
election that he calls a coup de tar because of the FBI. One FBI
office in New York.
Yeah, really? Where's
Rudy Giuliani, you know, the coup Meister?
Yeah. Rudy,
Rudy is the rebel meister the coup.
That's what we're gonna call him from now on Rudy Giuliani is the
coup Meister? Because he's involved. It was all his fault.
So I can't we couldn't get himself elected President if he
so in on that sort of thing. That's just Cabal.
Yeah, he ran did me
the cool Cabal? Yes, he did. And the cooler
cabal Oh, man, I'm writing faster than I can speak. All
right, the coup cabal Beautiful. Well, I have a little package of
a couple of reasons why Hillary lost.
i By the way, you get a you get a border length Tip of the Day.
A great break catch by our producers. Yeah.
Thank you. Just love that. Just love that. What did you Okay, so
now I have a little package of a couple of the reasons why
Hillary Clinton lost because it's not what are you okay, what
was that?
That was an animal.
Are you squeezing little animals during the show again? The
animal, man. All right. Harry Reid agrees with with Sidney
Blumenthal. It was all about the FBI, James Comey in particular,
he did it. Hello, James Comey play now
it's easy to second guess what Hillary did? I love Hillary
Clinton. I sorry, she lost. I did everything I could to help.
And you know, I can go through a litany of things, but there's no
question in my mind. She will won this election. without any
problem. If Comey had not been the Republican operative that he
is, for example, Those are strong words center, but I
believe it he came out against what the attorney general had
recommended against what common sense dictates he is the reason
she lost the elections. So you want one reason that's it?
Comey? He can be fat and happy in his office or for seven more
years after having thrown election to Donald Trump. If he
feels good about that. That's nice.
That's a nice them's fightin words. Hairy chests. Nice. He
feels good about it. i Well, I'm, well, that's nice. Dang.
Here's a quick clip that has not really an explanation necessary
but necessarily but it kind of ties into what I what I'm
hearing from Tina's friends. And I'm pretty sure as I said women
in general moms, let's just put it that way moms This is CNN
report, and then we'll get into the actual reason that this took
place regarding women.
Nothing, and Leonora
Wait. You never finish your sentence? What part? You said
something I've noticed moms. And then it was supposed to be some
follow up to know
the women. I said moms, moms, women slash moms, moms in
particular.
What about them?
Oh, they're afraid. They're afraid. And this loss of this
Hillary's I'm sorry, right. It's a little out of sequence.
Hillary's loss is, you know, it's it's put them into a state
of
fear nothing, and Leonora pices routine in our liberal community
in Los Angeles has changed in the weeks as a presidential
election. Yet California has Why is this so personal for you,
children matter to me, and our minorities matter to me, because
they're my friends and they're my community. And I want to make
sure that they're okay. And they don't feel okay. They feel
really scared. If 2016 was identity politics, women across
social media field, theirs is under attack and Clinton's loss
video messages from Miley Cyrus. Please,
please treat people with love and compassion,
emotion has spilled onto the streets of Los Angeles, mothers
carrying signs and children, students walking out of
classrooms at UCLA, these UCLA students supported Hillary
Clinton. When you say you have fear in you, what do you mean?
Well,
I'm a woman, I'm black, I'm Muslim. And those three factors.
Basically, being a black Muslim woman in America today is very
scary. And Trump being elected just further builds on to my
fear. I've had to wake up to the reality that a lot of America is
not like, what Los Angeles is like, no
kidding week on West Coast, women are still learning about
their new national reality. It just doesn't look like any
reality. They believed they were living,
right. If you're not in that reality. Absolutely. Right. That
is completely spot on.
You're in a bubble. It's a bubble. Yes. And of course in
California is a bubble in Southern California where Trump
won. In one county alone, a cancer most of the Hillary's
popular vote victory over a million votes above Trump's
votes. It's a complete bubble down there. And it's a bubble in
most of the state.
Here's the kicker. Here is the kicker as we listened to, but
yet another analysis, but this is from Clinton's campaign
communications chief, Jess McIntosh. She is going to tell
us what she and I will just surmise that even though Hillary
Clinton has said it was Comey, and there's a lot of Comey out
there, and a lot of racism of ABA, but listen to her analysis
and why she thinks well, I basically didn't didn't work
trying to go after fearful women. My understanding from my
conversations with the Clinton folks, right is that there's a
certain demographic, everyone's sort of demographic victory.
Sure. And in some ways, the demographic bet was there's
going to be some demographics on which she underperformed. Then
we made up for ones in which she over performs. And one of those
was women, particularly Republican women, white women,
we should be clear women of color overwhelmingly voted for
on her own and have overwhelmingly voted for every
Democratic presidential candidate. But she among white
women didn't do any
different than essentially Obama in 2012 Point better. Yeah.
How do you make sense of that?
Irene? internalized misogyny is a real thing. And this is a
thing that we have to be talking about, listen to
listen to what she's saying. internalized misogyny what I and
it's it plays out, it becomes clear that I think I'm right to
what she's saying. She's saying that women have internalized
misogyny. And that's why they didn't turn out in huge numbers
for Hillary, in fact, only according to their numbers,
MSNBC. 1%, higher than President Obama. But I find this very
interesting,
internalized misogyny is a real thing. And this is a thing that
we have to be talking about as we go through and see what does
that mean no turn I guess is it look, the President said at the
best during this whole campus? We as a society react poorly to
women seeking positions of power, we are uncomfortable by
it and then we seek to justify that that uncomfortable feeling
because it can't possibly be because we don't want to see a
woman in that position of power. We need to as we as we go
through these numbers as we figure out exactly what what
happened with turnout. It seems to be white college educated
women. My guess is that breaks down married unmarried my guess
is it breaks down older, younger, but we have work to do
talking to those women about what happened to this year and
why why would why we would vote against our self interests.
I find this fascinating. So she's saying women actually
delivered the loss With internalized misogyny, which her
examples are we feel women really shouldn't be leading
women women that we women who, I presume are Democrats or I don't
know, you know, we're just all women in general. That's, that's
some pretty deep stuff. It's
not as though that the women voted 90% for Trump. No, I mean,
they actually expected this. I think this is a projection of an
expectation. The Democrats literally expected women to vote
for a woman. Yes, cause she's a woman. And they point back at
Barack Obama, and the black population voted 93% lockstep
for Barack Obama because they're black and he's black. Oh, we
need a black guy. I'm voting black because he's black. I
don't know. You know, do you know why they you know why they
voted for President Obama. Because black lives matter. See,
not all lives matter. women's lives don't matter.
Back to the point, right. Expected this similar turnout
for women for a woman. Yep. But the women not being idiots,
voted like they normally vote. They voted for this person or
that person. And it turned out that they voted mostly for
Trump. Exactly. Now, just to wrap this up, like overwhelming
for Trump, it was just like a majority. It wasn't the number
they wanted. That's why they didn't want anybody voting for
Trump right?
Now, just to wrap it up, you're a woman. Why
would you vote for Trump, he's a man of
penis. Evil penis.
Last night, we had dinner with another one of Tina's friends,
also Jewish. And she and her husband voted for Trump. And as
I'm trying to just punch man, she is she's happy. And she even
went through some medical crap recently. So she all reason to
be not happy or you know, but she just be a fantastic. He's
feeling great, happy, shiny, her kids are very successful.
Because she's, you know, they're they're optimistic. In fact,
they're, they're a little bit old. They're like your age 65, a
little bit older. But I'm convinced, because these are
Republicans. I'm convinced the reason why is because then I'm
not I'm not advocating this at all, at all, at all, quite the
opposite, because there's a lot of things wrong with it. But I'm
convinced that they have watched more Fox News, and have received
information about the evils of the Clinton Empire, and Bill
Inc. But they haven't been traumatized with fear. Because I
watch it all. When you watch it, too, John, Fox News was just not
throwing the terror of your children and black people and
Muslims and all of that, and just they were not ginning up
this fear. You can't pin it on anything else. It's the
inflammation diet. And it doesn't mean it's right.
Well, I would say that you're not giving enough credit to
social media. I think a lot of the fear initially you follow
the social media has. And I would say I know this has
happened on Facebook. But even though I don't use it, but the
way it's been on Twitter, is at some point, you start to
gravitate toward people that don't annoy you. Yes. And so you
end up in a huge bubble. Because I like to get into the other
bubble as much as I can I start clicking on all these different
people's bubbles. And all you hear is hate. Yeah, I mean, it's
not healthy. But you hear just so much hate us. And a lot of us
coming out of Hollywood people, which is very, you know,
depressing. Because these Hollywood people, you know, they
just, they're just beside themselves. And this is a like a
bubble within a bubble within a bubble. And you get into one of
those little bubbles, you can do it on Twitter, and then you can
follow it. You can go through the streams and other people,
you know, all their tweets for the last month. Yeah. And you're
just like, holy crap, this person is insane. And then you
go to somebody else, and you do the same thing here and there
and you find it. Ah, I had no idea that this guy, you know,
was just nutty about this. There are a few sane people who have
stayed off of this. But for the most part, when you go on one of
these little tweet, I'd say
binges recon recon missions.
You only look at his tweet after tweet after tweet after tweet
after there's nothing else yeah, is there's no tweets about hey,
I saw a cool car. Oh, look at this. This is a funny news story
about a duck you know, that has a friend, a pet cat. You know,
this sort of thing which is all over the place. No, no, it's
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump Trump tweet, tweet
tweet. It's like holy you guys need to get some some
psychiatric help or something you're obsessing.
When Adam needs to make an example of some typical slaves,
he just reads the comments on their face back he also read
Facebook Hey, I'm gonna do some brain cells.
I think that was appropriate to read the the face bag post that
I didn't get to on Thursday.
I'm all ears.
So this is from a woman in Austin who I know. Tonight is
out. Tonight as I was driving home from the pool, my thoughts
turn to my neighbors. A gay couple who just celebrated their
25th anniversary together a few months ago. No, this is not
going where you think. They told me. They told me several months
ago they were voting for Trump. I know. Oh, successful white gay
men beautiful home good lives. How could this monster speak to
them? I've been in pain over this relationship. My
friendship. I genuinely love these guys. Yesterday evening
when walking Stella I saw the older one outside their house.
They live just up the street from me and I normally run over
and say hello, but I turned my back in pain hoax. He did not
see me and went quickly in the front vestibule of my home. The
Fox has vestibule tonight, my thoughts turned again to these
friends. I don't hate them. I just don't know how I ever look
at them, knowing that they are part of and and the horrid
damage unfolding. What will happen at that moment when they
ring my bell or call and the tears came flowing from my eyes.
I thought of my mother who had to have an illegal abortion in
1967 to save her life in the fifth month of her pregnancy and
I gasped through my tears. I'm so sorry mom. We really tried. I
thought of my three beautiful nieces who I hope someday when
they are ready we will be mothers. What if that control is
taken from them? What if they go through what their grandmother
didn't have a dangerous pregnancy? What will their
options be? Will their options be criminalized? Will they have
to have a funeral for a stillborn fetus? Will they have
to risk their lives and their freedom and do what their
grandmother did all these unbearably sad, sad thoughts? I
thought of my ancestors in Eastern Europe murdered by
Nazis. I thought of my cousins living in orphanages for the
bravery of those who were part of the resistance and save them
during the Kindertransport, taking them away from their home
in Austria secretively to live without ever seeing their
parents again, first in the homes of strangers and in
orphanages in England and finally as immigrants to the
United States, and I thought again of my neighbors, and what
if someone harms them because they are gay. The floodgates of
sadness, fear, concern and anger. I am bereft with grief.
The knowledge that in my age, I will be a soldier and perhaps
not live again to see the democracy I love so dearly heal
itself and once again, embrace kindness and equality makes me
so, so sad.
There you go. Why would somebody post that? She's sad, or fine.
She needs to share her sadness. I understand what she's doing.
I'm not taking her reality from her at all. But damn, it's
different from mine. Yes,
I would say yes, I would say
all right, well, but okay, so and I think to wrap it up for me
for today for all of this. We have other stuff to get to.
Finally, there was an interview with ground zero himself. No,
not John Oliver. No, no, John Stewart, Jon Stewart, who I
believe is the influence and a lot of the sanctimonious
smugness that we see on television about opposing views
to the globalists. And he is properly trained Samantha Bee
who has her own show, of course, properly trained.
John Oliver.
Then, of course, also trained Stephen Colbert, although he
hasn't done that very properly, because Colbert is just not able
to do it when he's not in his Republican character. So
Charlie, over there at the CBS Morning News interview, John,
and he had a couple of interesting things to say, and
also a vision about the United States, which I'd like to
discuss with you. So we'll start off. So here's John Stewart.
Very surprised about well, just surprising answers about the
outcome of the election. I thought
Donald Trump disqualified himself at numerous points. But
there is now this idea that anyone who voted for him is has
to be defined by the worst of his rhetoric, like their guys
might be like that I love that I respect that I think have
incredible qualities who are not afraid of Mexicans and not
afraid of Muslims and not afraid of blacks. They're afraid of
their insurance premiums. In the liberal community you hate you
hate this idea of creating people as a monolith. Don't look
at Muslims as a monolith. They are individuals and it would be
ignorance. But everybody who voted for Trump is a monolith.
I liked that. He says that. Everyone, everyone voted for
Trump, but you can't call them monoliths. If you don't I want
other people to call Muslims as a monolith
is a racist, that hypocrisy, which is disqualified thing is
so? Well, I don't think he's saying that this particularly is
disqualifying. But then comes this
bit about what what, what is disqualifying according to the
Constitution? It turns out that he's only 32. So that would be
disqualifying.
Yeah. Okay. I mean, if you if you want to go back to five
shows ago, and we were talking about what disqualifying means
we can
keep playing, I just find screwy. Yeah,
we can power power through it
is also real in our country. And so this is the fight that we
waged against ourselves and each other because America is not
natural. Natural is tribal. We're fighting against 1000s of
years of human behavior in history to create something that
no one's ever. That's what's exceptional about America. And
that's what's like, this ain't easy. It's an incredible thing.
So this is where he lost me. And this is a two part clip, really,
but this first part of him saying, America is not natural,
because the natural world is tribal. And therefore what we're
doing in America is just a fantastic thing to do you
understand what he's talking? Okay. Do you understand what
this
is? No, not really. I think he's just kind of winging it. This is
what he comes out with.
Okay, well, so now, of course, we need to go into what does he
really mean? And it his answer comes up? Or the answer comes up
in him answering a different question that was about a
question that wasn't asked
Donald Trump is a reaction not just to Democrats to
Republicans. He he's not a Republican. He's a repudiation
of Republicans, but they will reap the benefit of his victory
in all of their cynicism. And all of their I will guarantee
your Republicans are going to come to Jesus now about the
power of government. One of the things that I think struck me
about odd about this election, and maybe I just missed it was
nobody asked Donald Trump. What makes America great.
Did we hear anyone asked that
question? What makes America great? I don't. I don't know. He
may. Somebody may have asked somebody may not have asked. I
have no I have
I haven't heard it for sure. But now we're going to find out what
John Stewart thinks makes America great.
And that was the part that I What are we
to make America great again? Yeah. Nobody said to him, Well,
what is it that makes America great? Yeah, including you,
Charlie, news guy.
Correct. What is it you want to do? What is that we're
not doing now?
What are the metrics? Because it seems like from listening tone,
the metrics are that it's a competition.
And now, now, when I heard this, I'm like, wait
a minute. I think that may be right, actually, that the
metrics for success in America is measured through as a
competition. And and I'm only basing this on how I grew up.
But I think you're the same, John is, well, you know, you got
to work hard America. I think disadvantages everyone equally.
But if you if you can figure it out, and you can make it through
power through it, you can be just as successful as that guy,
the you know, the rabbi, the preacher, the professor, the
president, the businessman. That is, that's a little different
than he's thinking. I guess
we're number one. I
think what many would say is what makes us great is America
is an anomaly in the world. There are a lot of people and I
think his candidacy has animated that thought that a multi ethnic
democracy, a multicultural democracy is impossible. And
that is what America by its founding unconstitutionally is
like becoming more and more
now we understand my wife comes up with doesn't qualify. He
doesn't understand what we are. Thinks America is a
multicultural democracy.
Where's that say in the Constitution?
We're a republic to start off with this is the problem where
Republic we're not that's a big deal. Yeah, that's a big deal
hmm. And need to pull in the constitution which is listening
to what listening it sees interpretation of multi
ethnic democracy, a multicultural democracy is
impossible. And that is what America by its founding and
constitutionally is like, becoming more
and more by its founding constitutionally that's what we
are. Oh,
did they print a new version of that thing? And what's the deal?
I don't know. I don't know how he comes up with this. I don't
know how I mean, how is that even possible that you think
this way that's crazy. But this of course then doesn't surprise
me when you if you look at the like there's a lot of protests
going on. They're not as big as they may seem? Possibly.
But have you looked at the signs?
What are you putting out sign?
Oh, I'm I'm I'm sorry. The the actual signs that printed signs
that I'm seeing are for the Party for Socialism and
Liberation. Are these Oh yeah, there's
a lot of answers stuff. Yeah.
And yeah, this is they have a Wikipedia page. I know it's all
fake news. But, you know, they specifically state domestic
policy the PSL is primary objective is to form a
revolutionary Workers Party based in Marxism and Leninism.
Hello. So is that where John Stewart's coming from? Is that
how he interprets the Constitution?
I've always felt John Stuart was a socialist that would be of the
ilk that would be all in on that stuff. stores with his beard and
I know he had the beard. Oh, when you saw him he looks a
little like Marx. Yeah, I saw a lot of signs from an answer a
dot and you know, these guys are so world's Workers Party.
They're out in New York. Hi. Yes.
Yeah, that's it. The world's Workers Party. That's exactly
who it is. They also behind the Party for Socialism and
Liberation. You're right.
Yeah, it's a front organization. They have a lot of sites that
are all interconnected. Now the troublemakers.
Anyway, I'm just baffled. I'm just baffled by John Stuart
calling the a multicultural democracy is something that is
our founding fathers put into place in the Constitution. That
to me is is really and Where's Charlie Rose on this?
He's just listening. I think he'd have to time he just
doesn't pay attention. Man.
You know what, how poor have we become culturally in the United
States of Gitmo nation? How poor are we really? When you remember
that? I Love Lucy. What was I Love Lucy like late 50s,
mid 50s. And on mid 50s.
But mid 50s. Just before the Cuban Missile Crisis, we had
inspirational people on television who were in
completely stereotypical roles. But I tell you, I know I'm sure
a lot of people would like look at them and like the Cuban
immigrant, you know, of course, he was all naughty like Lucy.
Fred and Ethel. And then at the club. He's like, Oh, but Oh, but
but but he was an inspiration like, this guy can make it in
America. And then Lucille Ball she ran the freakin studio a
woman a woman she had the pants on. Yeah. Did she pay a play a
ditz? Yeah. But it was also there was something she had
power over Ricky. And that was could you even put that on TV
today? I bet you there will be protests and advertisers will
get shafted and they would have to take it off the air. They boy
boy I boycott the advertisers for I Love Lucy I guarantee you
that would happen.
So that there's a book there's a show on called just off the
boat. Which it highlights a Viet I think they're Vietnamese or
some some Southeast Asian culture, which I think is one of
the funniest shows on TV and they're trying to get that
removed. Yeah, no, I
watched that Tina and I watched it the other night. And it's
funny, but I really don't get all the jokes because just
cultural stuff. I just don't understand. You know, it's like
okay, and some of it's funny, but they're trying to get it
removed for this very reason.
Yeah. All right. Next,
I'm a clip. Sob This is one of the local news stories big deal.
I think it's kind of fight as the ATM clip.
Do you use the ATM to get cash? Wash your hands afterwards.
That's because you're picking up a lot more than money.
Researchers took swabs from ATM key pads in New York City they
found a variety of bacteria. The most abundant was human skin
microbes the same find on household surfaces. They also
found a lot of microbes that are from foods like fish, chicken
and baked goods. The researchers say that suggest that bacteria
from a meal can remain on a person's hands and be
transferred to the ATM
Oh man. This is gusting
you're all gonna die
oh man. Hey, thanks for that visual. I need I need my class I
need gloves now when I go to the ATM so
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let's begin this last part of the show here with at least get
this out of the way Zika
oh my goodness you know I didn't know you were going to do it
right at this moment because we have our little Zika jingle
oh forget about the Zika jingle yeah see cuz he cuz he got
I think I think it is because he because he because Zika where's
the money is that it all heads are coming I'm sorry I'm we're
we're on we're on remote here so it's always a little tougher to
get everything going.
Oh yeah. Oh Zika baby
with a little bit he has with a baby with a small.
They're gonna have to make a little ahead you watch Zika yet?
Where's Okay, that's right. Time for a Zika update. We've been
tracking it since Zika was Ebola. That's how long we've
been on top of this story. Yep. Here's the
story. Here's the story.
The World Health Organization says they no longer considers
the Zika virus and international health emergency oh no health
experts worry that liver money emergency label could slow
support for Vika Zika research. Lyrica continuing to cause new
infections. The UN health agency is stressing that there is still
a need for a long term plan to tackle Zika
Oh, man,
they got their money.
But it sounds like the researchers didn't get their
money.
They never do you read the list of where the little money?
No, no, no, no, no, there was several 100 million dollars that
was going to the national National Institutes of Health
who dole out the grants for the research. I have a feeling they
didn't get their money. I wouldn't surprise everybody
listen, because listen to that last bit of the report. That's a
great job. I love this home was
continuing to cause new infections. The UN health agency
is stressing that there is still a need for a long term plan.
It's
not it was in the beginning. I
guess let me say the World Health Organization says they no
longer considers the Zika virus and international health
emergency but some health experts worry that lifting the
emergency label could slow support for Vika Zika research.
The viruses continuing Yeah, I'm
telling you, I'm telling you everyone else got paid and NIH
is like whoa, whoa Hold on a second.
What changed? That makes us less of an you know as colony
I know what changed. I know exactly what changed. I'm here
in the ground zero of change. It's winter mosquitoes are dead
and miss the pitch with the World Health Organization. It's
we it's winter here it's summer in Brazil, where the problem
evolved.
We don't care
about Brazil Karolina
you know it's interesting because we were with the
multiple people we met I cracked my Zika joke from time to time
which I've now changed Ebola because it wasn't going over to
elbow again it would in New York and I caught Zika and that you
know they're not laughing here. I wonder why
not laughing losing their sense of humor down there in Florida
it's for real
well I'm gonna have to look into it. I have a feeling I really do
have a feeling that they that some part of the money went
through I honestly I didn't have time to look it up but I will I
promise that's rounded out everybody because you know where
$1.9 billion I love the chat room. Small heads are coming at
you silver says Tina. Are you really sure about this guy?
Thank you. Thanks chat room. Oh, yes. So
nice. Let's see what I have a couple Oh yeah. Our buddy Nigel
Farage
was on, on the telly. And he was talking about the Brexit and of
course the referendum. And we have obviously called for do
over and there's one other guesses is that the the woman
you'll hear talking? She's the one that we played a clip of
before who were their own money. You know, she protested Brexit.
What's her name again? Jill or something or middles are can't
remember her name. And, you know, they're very quick to
point out that this is you know, that this is only advisory. And
I think this clip kind of shows that we are headed in breakneck
speed structurally structurally towards a do over of the vote,
and is nice because Faraj kind of rounds up the reasons why
we're suspicious of this as well.
Don't forget, I've been in the European Parliament for years.
So I've seen this happen all over Europe, I've seen the Danes
forced to vote again, the Irish forced to vote again, the Dutch
and French ignored there is that there is a political board and
wealthy really elite who are not prepared to accept the
democratic result of referendum. Do you
want a country where we have no process where everything we do
in life being going house is called a referendum. We've had a
referendum if Parliament wanted to the Referendum Act would not
have said it was advisory. The politicians lied all the way
through? Well, because I didn't say that
I take the advisory point. And I would now wish to see
constitutional change to make referendums binding, and that
then would end this argument and to be known for this case, do
you think that there needs to be another general, if Brexit is
sort of stuck inside the House of Commons and the House of
Lords? We haven't even talked about the Lords Yeah, for a
while. Do you think there needs to be another general election?
Yes, I think that if Parliament was to effectively try and
mandate the Prime Minister to try and keep us inside the
single market, I don't think Theresa May would have any
choice but to go to a country for a spring general election,
and she could do so on a very clear ticket will a big
majority, the House of Lords problem. You know, there are 104
Liberal Democrat live peers who appear to be pledged to delaying
the process as much as possible. I mean, this is Yeah, well, I
mean, this could be the end of the House of Lords.
No, that seems a bit extreme, but
Well, that's been talked about. Oh, yeah. That's been talked
about all the time. I've seen over the last two years I've
noticed these little reports about getting rid of the House
of Lords and stuff like a bull crap operation anyway, they
don't really have any influence of the designer pass laws.
They just a monkey modelers and a mumbler. Back backbench,
modelers are racing, you know, it seems like everyone's just
gonna move towards Hey, you know, it's it's just advisory.
So we're just gonna say nope, no Brexit and then it would be
another election which I think is also possible.
Yes, I think so. And I think a lot of people to get booted out
about Theresa May
Well, she looks like you know, she's the problem with her is
that she she's selling the idea that oh, yeah, no, no, no, no,
no, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it.
The Peoples the people that have made them selves clear, we're
gonna do it. So she's bluffing even though she I think she's
dead set against the Brexit. And she wasn't against she was not
for Brexit but to begin with. But she is now supposedly, I
think she's just a bluffer, but I think she can she can bluff
her way back into her position because she's keep saying that
she wants to initiate the Brexit. Right right. I think
she's doing that on purpose. I think the whole thing is a giant
that why we both agreed on this while it was a scam had to do
over was it was almost inevitable. Yeah. Yeah. Because
nobody wants any of this stuff to go on. This is the One World
Government is throwing his weight around.
In the meantime. It's mad, stop squeezing an animal's neck.
In the meantime,
there's some nefarious stuff going on. We've We've certainly
looked at this for the past few months about the the snoopers
charter, this is now the the new normal for the United Kingdom of
Gitmo nation over there, get my nation east. This is what you're
dealing with. You thought it was bad here.
Government's Investigatory Powers bill, the so called
snoopers Charter, which sets out what security services can find
out about people's internet activity will become law within
weeks yesterday, it passed through the House of Lords,
meaning it just needs a royal assent before it comes into
force. Well, let's have a look at some of the powers. It sets
out they will be able to ask internet providers to help them
hack into computers and phones but only after getting a warrant
first, internet companies will also have to keep your search
metadata for a year and handed on to authorities on request.
Again, a warrant will have to be issued first. And those warrants
have to be signed by the Home Secretary and an independent
judicial Commissioner the double log? Will Jim killock is
executive director at Open Rights Group which oppose is
opposed to the new legislation. What's wrong with this film?
Well, let's just make one correction on what you the bit
you just did. You mentioned about warrants, the very big
warrants for kind of bulk interception and for getting the
content of information about terrorists and so on. That is
has this double lock the Home Secretary and judge the judge
having weaker powers in that relationship? But the search
that sort of general data about your phone records and so on,
that doesn't get any of this warranty. It's just simply the
police saying to other police officers, yes, you may have this
information, and then they go to the companies and get it. But in
fact, now they will go through a machine which delivers it, so
the companies won't even interact, the company's
databases will simply be queried by police officers, and the
results will go to the police. And that's pretty shocking. I
mean, Mace basically means no independent authorization
whatsoever.
But in terms of what they can glean from that information. I
mean, the the Prime Minister has said, Well, it's just the modern
day equivalent of an itemized phone bill, they might be able
to see that you've been looking at Facebook, for example, but
they can't see the content of the chat that you might have
been having. And Theresa May says privacy is hardwired into
this bill.
Yeah, I think that's a sort of nonsense representation. Or do
you think what it means to have your mobile phone location data,
for instance, that tells you where somebody is all of the
time, that your call records, the people you communicate with
online that tells you about their innermost thoughts. It's
like a reading list. So what this does is it tells you who
knows who, where they meet, and roughly speaking what they think
and to say that that is okay, that that's not an intrusion
into people's privacy. And it's not that important, and police
should just be able to search that and get the results. I
think that's really misrepresenting what's going on
here.
I can't see what's wrong with all that. seems perfectly normal
to me.
But to me, it still sounds like I don't know. I saw them years
and years. 20 years ago. I was in England at I used to write
for PC Magazine, UK. And they had a big meeting. And it was
and this was 20 years ago. And we had a big meeting at some
some Castle out in the middle of nowhere. And
when there was money abound, when there was money, tons of
money, man, oh, good time, he
had all these presentations. It was like an editor's day. And we
had all these presentations. We had a presentation by Interpol.
Cool. And Interpol showed us a system that allowed them to
track who people were calling it was a phone tracking system very
similar to what we keep hearing about, in fact, very similar
what this guy is talking about. And it showed they showed us a
ring, like a circle of people who was calling who with arrows
and everything pointing to each other. And then they could say
they could find a leader of a gang based on
distance. Just for my edification. Was this do they
have like a threat map of this on a pew pew? And these are
things shooting back and forth? And the ring? No, how was it?
Was it drawing like a PowerPoint or like an overlay?
No, it was actually a raster graphics of Oh, the screenshot.
Nice. Add that raster graphics look, yeah. It was the circle it
showed us and then we could tell it, this guy is the leader of
this mob. And this guy here is his right hand, man. And here's
how we can do that. Because his guys call Him and He calls him
and they had this thing. And this is like 20 years ago. And
so every time somebody brings the same story up about this as
some new idea this has been going on for a long time. Right?
People are being misled. This is fake news. Yeah,
there you go. That's why it's fake news. And now back to real
news.
But you know, Chris Hansen, remember that guy used to do
Catch a Predator? Yeah. So I'm watching one of the obscure
stations that has like the worst kind of syndicated shows. And
apparently over the last couple years, Chris Hanson has been
doing a show called Crime Watch or something like that. It's
just it's it's because they showed a piece of it is it's
Catch a Predator is they get some word dumped schmuck that
comes into somebody's house and he comes out of a closet and
says, What are you doing here? What are you doing here?
Was that 15 year old girl?
Yeah, what are you doing here with that 15 year old girl so
meanwhile but the guy is the guy who's like aged a million yet
still understand why we don't have electrocution on TV and
it's just as uncomfortable to watch
I think I think it would be great July who's watching this
just this is just a promo because the guy has become full
of himself and he's doing a Tom Brokaw type of delivery delivery
it's exactly Tom Brokaw has delivered and then here you're
gonna miss a couple of letters all those things he says are you
ready? And so he but it's the way he ends this? This little
ditty you're gonna just die cuz he's a puker to
Beuker Oh, fabulous.
I busted hundreds of people throughout the years and one
thing remains constant these guys think of new and different
ways to creep me out. Case in point Jeff So go unfortunately
for him there's pizza chomping suspect It's about to get a bad
case of indigestion courtesy of yours truly.
Try that. So if you want to hear that yeah, no,
it's totally This is Gregor is truly. I kind of like I kind of
like the whole last little riff there because I liked the whole
this is a great
indigestion courtesy of yours truly,
you're gonna get some indigestion courtesy of yours
truly. Try that line in a gay bar. See how that works out for
you? Yes, I'm sorry. I had to set myself up again.
Yeah, gay bar. Perfect. That's a good one. Yeah,
I do want to talk briefly about two things that I believe are
related. But there's really not a well, there's not a lot zero
coverage of it. So we have pizza gate, which I'm sure you've
heard of. And we have just WikiLeaks in general possibly
being compromised.
Yeah, it's fine. I'm glad you got this because I didn't I just
couldn't stop laughing when I heard this whole story.
Well, which which one the pizza with
WikiLeaks being compromised? I mean, they're doing this. Maybe
it is maybe it's always been, but they just they just keep
bringing this stuff up to like, making excuses for Hillary's
loss.
No, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry, this different type of
compromised, a different type of compromise it I don't know if
you really read all of this now. Okay. Well tell me about since
the internet outage, and then we knew we had those weird hashes
that WikiLeaks tweeted out, which would of course, they
prove authenticity of documents. So now new documents are being
released on WikiLeaks, but they don't match the hashes that came
out before that internet outage. And even though you say, yeah,
they've seen them at the window. Julian Assange really seems to
be Mia, he does. He appears to not be around. And dead,
possibly abducted dead something. Yeah, it's, you're a
bit dismissive of it on the last show, and I was I believed you
and like, okay, but a lot of people have now that could
possibly could relate to this pizza gate thing. And in that it
would be bogus live, because I don't think this pizza gate
thing is anything at all. I mean, that's all I'm seeing is a
lot of 4chan stuff. And I'm sorry, I just, it does nothing
for me. I've seen 4chan, you know, screenshots and you know,
as far as I know, pretty much none of it has come true. Okay,
so and then, but this pizza gate is, you know, it's about the
pizza place and the pizza party and the Podesta emails, and
child. pedophilia and child pornography
are all code words for pedophilia. Whatever. Yeah, lots
of companies. Boy, something means girl.
Right? And yeah, and then there's this something was in
the news picked up? Was it still? Is it pick? Pick
typography? Was it when you hide data in a picture? steganography
steganography. Thank you. Yeah. So now we have already found
this and steganography. And then it's a picture of these two
young Korean girls, which actually one of them I recognize
immediately, Lisa Ling from was it CNN or whatever? I mean, it's
there's a lot of stuff. People are very convinced of something
going on, you know, and I'm the first guy I've always been on
this kind of stuff. Always. Always and I've gotten
instant, I'm not convinced. I will go Yeah, yeah, you're more
likely to be convinced. Yes.
I do a lot of the research. I'm just not really seeing it. So.
And you know, so of course, the some of the assumptions are that
because some of this may have come out through WikiLeaks. That
that's why Julian Assange has gone. But you know, if I can
believe in the in the pizza gate, I mean, it's just it's
just I want to believe me believe
well, you can believe that. Julian Assange has gone but you
can't believe in the other thing. If you were to
disconnect. Why do you think Julian Assange has gone? Well, I
do believe in the hashes. I do believe that that to me, I see
no discrepancy in that story. And we have not seen him. And so
the compromise part, that part I'm not sure. It just seemed
Yeah, it seems like maybe Julian Assange has always been all of
WikiLeaks. And who knows if they have a team? I don't know. Well,
we had we had Sarah though the hot girl who moved to Berlin we
got her but that was about it. The last
show we had a long discussion. We had a good clip of the fact
that Sweden is questioning him for hours on end at the at the
embassy. Yeah, currently. Yeah. Yeah. So unless that's a bull
crap story, and Sweden's not there in the first place, even
though his lawyer says they are Yeah, he wouldn't be gone. He's
being grilled.
I've seen a lot of deconstruction of the, of the
questioning and you know, and everything gets polluted with
oh, look, you know, you we now have Photoshop for voice like,
okay. Yeah, well, that's, we've had that a long time. This is
nothing new. So I'm, I'm just not, I'm not convinced I am.
Assange. You know,
you are convinced you're convinced he's convinced. Yeah.
Well, I'm
convinced he's convinced of something going on and the
things are very wrong. I'm not convinced he's dead.
But some but something is wrong. Now.
I'm convinced he's being grilled by the Swedish and he's going to
be released.
Hmm, okay. Well,
in that case, then the one thing I think I've learned out of this
is that he is all of WikiLeaks, whoever's running the tweeters
and all that stuff right now. Maybe they maybe they don't even
know how to use the hashes. Maybe it's all legit stuff. They
just made copies have done something stupid, and the hashes
don't match up anymore. And that's because he's being
questioned by the by the Swedes that's also possible and you
know what? I gotta tell you sounds pretty damn plausible to
me. And I am Mister i my i am the crackpot. Cuckoo. Cuckoo.
Yeah, you are the correct project. There you go. I'll tell
you about crackpot. Oh. Now, again, I'm bitching about PBS
going over the deep end being pushed around by the underwriter
something that doesn't happen to this show. And so I'm watching
this thing. This is another PBS clip. And it's something caught
my attention. This is the PBS clip on climate change there.
You know, there's a big thing going on in Marrakech democracy
now is that Amy is down there reporting
live from America and what was what was the big thing in
America? What's going on? What's Oh,
this is a cop 22
Oh, the cop 23 Drag is so important. It is the this cop 23
I guess not 22
I think it's 22. It could be 23. I think it's 22. Okay, whatever.
It's one of them. And they're down there having meetings in
there. Everyone's making a fuss.
That's what they get paid to do make a fuss.
So we go to the PBS NewsHour, and I, this struck me because
they do all these climate change guys are going on and on about
it. It's all resolved. Forget the fact that 30,000 Scientists
signed a petition saying this is could be bogus. We'd like to
talk about it. You don't even give us space. So here we are
with the news hour. I want to ask you a question. I want you
to play this clip and then tell me ask Adam as you come what's
wrong with this picture here is
to withdraw from the Paris Accords. But there are no
enforcement mechanisms so the new Trump administration could
simply ignore the US has commitments. In Morocco
yesterday, Secretary of State John Kerry warned against taking
that step. He said climate change should not be a partisan
issue.
No one has a right to make decisions that affect billions
of people based on solely ideology.
At the same time, 365 American companies have written to the
president elect, imploring Him to uphold the Paris Accords. And
warning, quote, failure to build a low carbon economy puts
American prosperity at risk. So what would environmental policy
actually look like under a Trump administration? David Roberts
covers this for Vox. He's a writer and journalist who has
long reported on the need for tackling climate change. He
joins me now from Portland. David Roberts. Let's start off
talking about the man who is going to help the Trump
administration shape energy policy, who is Myron Ebell and
what does he believe?
Myron Ebell is the director of the Climate Change Program at
the Competitive Enterprise Institute, which is a think tank
in Washington DC. His belief is that climate change is a hoax or
possibly no big deal happening and no big deal or possibly
happening in good for us, depending on which day you ask
him.
Okay.
All right. Ask Adam. Let me think discrepancy discrepancy?
Well, I would say number one, one off the bat. Labeling anyone
from Vox as a journalist is a discrepancy.
That is definitely on the list about the main one, but I felt
the same way.
I would say. I wouldn't say the second one is nice description
about this guy who I hadn't heard of, I guess I heard I
never heard it, or Yeah, I heard a similar story. But I'd like to
know who the 63 companies were. And you know what kind of
business they're in. I
would like to know that to everything you said is true. But
what got my attention and why what I'm going to point out here
is that the PBS NewsHour has a formula. When they discuss stuff
they have two people, always two peep times, but rarely three.
But mostly two. They did that throughout this particular show.
They'd have some but Syria that'd be two people have
something But Trump's election I have two people, two people, two
people, two people. In fact, they had one of them which I do
have a clip of big plays. Whenever there's always two
people when they do climate stuff, it's always one person.
Where's the other guy? Where's the guy who says but you know
this could could be Wow,
I'm
giving you some points.
Man we got to look at this formula. Yeah, that's fantastic.
It was just one guy there's always a climate change is going
to kill us all.
Well, we know that but wow, that da huh? Didn't didn't didn't
they change? Then they changed some kind of rules like you
know, you I know the BBC was trying to do this maybe they
did. They come up with this rule that you no longer needed to
have climate deniers on and a climate story.
Yeah, that's weather everyone's picked up on that that was
pounded got hounded by these by some public relations company
about this. No, you can't have a climate denier on because it's
all in the truth is the sciences in 97% of everybody agrees.
You know, I tell you, John, the news hour has gone to shit since
Gwen Eiffel died.
Actually, it's funny because maybe it's true. I'm telling it
seems as if and they keep doing these lamentation for her she
died I think on a Monday and then they did a whole show about
when a whole show a complete show. Yeah, so why on Friday, do
they do a reprise on Friday? They they at the end of the news
hour? They all went into a reprise everybody
well it's the end of the week it's like you know it's wrapping
up the week or going to the weekend it's time to reflect
reflect on our loss come on you feel all through the week well
and then the final one for the end of the week or have seen
anything quite like I mean they're really going to miss her
I guess well, but if it's gone to crap says
hey, if I die before you would do you please don't show go to
crap. Well, you'll do a week of tributes
definitely do a weak attributes. I'll bring ever all your friends
on
short show.
Is the show have you reduced to 10 minutes?
Hey, I got some news from Mimi's neck of the woods. And and some
Mimi may be interested in up there in Washington's right
Washington State. Yeah,
pot sales are closing in on hard liquor sales, according to the
Olympia and in the second quarter of this year, marijuana
sales amounted to nearly $212 million. That's just $37 million
less than spirits sales, which amounted to almost 249 million.
This is a change from the quarter before when the sales
gap was 54 point 8 million bucks.
Now you guys get hammered up there.
Now if you're on that topic, that's listen to what O'Reilly
has to say about this. And to the white punks on dope Fox.
Oh, man, can be no
good want to advocate say this is just the latest in a string
of victories for
their cause. The
markets been there. It's time for it to be legit. And it's
time for we're very regulated. It's time for that to be
standard for this product.
But some officials disagreed citing concerns about a possible
rise in auto accidents and deeper drug addiction among
young people. They say the movement needs to take a step
back and find ways to make marijuana available more safely.
Okay, so California is the big one. Yeah. You know, they had
quasi legalized marijuana in the other way policy. Yeah. You
know, big medical marijuana rules. Yes. Where you know, for
a call, it's good for a button toe. You can take it for pretty
much if you haven't been out to California. I love this. They
have a doctor named Dr. Lenny. He's on. Dr. Lenny, Lenny 200
and cash left. He doesn't want any trace. Lenny writes you a
prescription and then you just go to the next place over the
next room over and they sell it to you. That was the medical
marijuana ruse in California. So and there were 50,000 Lenny's
they were not good for business for Lenny. So Forney,
Massachusetts, Nevada. Yeah, I'll pass measures now you've
got a 60% approval rate of legalizing marijuana in the
country according to Gallup so, you know, I mean, this this is
the way that's good. So if you want to gamble, you really want
to be high when you especially when you play in blackjack. You
lose you down right? The thing that I saw of all the studies
and it is no doubt that kids use it more no doubt there's more
traffic accidents with the minority community. No doubt
minorities in this country use legalized marijuana far more
than anyone else and that hurt those folks. Last word.
What a dick.
He's a total dick. We've what we've tried to track traced his
attitude about pot for Biden over a year. Where's where's
that he comes out with full CRUD. This is fake news, he says
is more traffic accidents for sure. No, that's
not for sure at all. There's absolutely
no evidence of this. It's totally bull. And then evidence
that the minorities are going to be stoned more than whites.
Where's the evidence of that?
That's it. That's pretty damn racist.
Yeah, it was very racist. No, the guy's full of crap. This is
fake news. Yeah, I think it'd be either. So fake news.
Well, we did jingles
we need Warning. Warning.
We need jingles. Yes, we do. We do and we I mean, no one made me
a jingle for my suck it up buttercup. That was
disappointing.
Get up but
no one no one did the jingle for me. That's okay. Well, we do
need something for fake news.
It's fake news. No knows.
That's exactly what it should sound like. Yes. Fake news.
Yeah. Yeah. Regarding this particular topic, and there are
three things you can take away from the no agenda show. You're
not radical. If you think about just doing the following three
things. One, if stuff bothers you, then create a browser
plugin, so you don't see it. Have a friend created the dude
named Ben. It really will work. It'll help you to. You can use
encryption on your email, you know, spend 20 minutes learning
how to do it. Spend 20 minutes. Really you can do it. And three.
And this is probably the most important thing. But you please
we got to keep this amongst the no agenda family. You can grow
your own pot. It's a weed. It's very easy to do. Try it some
time. And then I don't know maybe grow some tomatoes are
something else you'd like to eat. It's not that hard. People
are the brains are fried. John. Don't think about this stuff
anymore. You can grow it yourself.
I'm a big talker. But but you know what I'm saying? All right,
good. neighbors who grew it? Yeah. Did
you ever set ever Saturday? You stopped smoking a long time. You
don't you didn't sample? Yeah, it's
just, it's too. It's not good. Well, I don't like it. I mean,
it's just one of these things. At some point. You know, you
have a choice between a good glass of cognac or a couple of
hits of a joint and the cognac is more satisfying.
Well, but now you're putting choices in and I can have all
kinds of things that are more entertaining than a couple of
years of an intoxicant. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. intoxicant. Nice
is intoxicants.
And the only thing I have for for today to round this out is
that you know, we saw the Where did they was it the rupee where
they took away the the bills?
Yeah, India, India. Yeah, in some parts of India. Okay,
so less than a week after that happens. We have now we have
Australia City Bank announced it's going to it's going
cashless at some of its Australian bank branches.
Yesterday Swiss giant UBS called for the elimination of the
Australian 150 to $50 bills because it will be quote, good
for the economy and good for the banks. good for
the economy
I can see how it's good for the banks. totally see that.
Australia Sir
Your your account is zeroed out
you're zeroed out that's it great turn
of JJ you must have taken a taking the money because there's
no money in your accounts. I
didn't see any money
you've been zeroed out
wow. Well, Tina and I are gonna have to plan out the next big
trips got to be Australia. I'm gonna spend two weeks there we
have to go they need help. No, they need
help. Yeah, well which help we're going to be able to
provide Are you gonna shoot does that is that you see or have any
indication of that? Shelley Duvall fiasco on the Dr. Phil
Show.
I didn't see it. You sent me the link and we were in transit and
just didn't get to it. So I saw the photo still of her and she
looks really really sad.
But yeah, she does look sad she but she's she's also old. She's
number 70
But you don't have to look like that when you're 70
No, you don't. Yes, this is true. She does. She looks pretty
beat up but I did it but it was sick. It was sadistic. He was
just interviewed her for an hour and she is she's I believe she
has functional schizophrenia. She she just kind of
blather so wise Oh,
who interviewed Dr. Phil the douchebag.
What an A. What was the point of this?
There was no point at the end of the show. He says Well, we tried
to get her help but your friends are gonna have to help her she's
back home and by that was it oh man, it was pathetic. But if you
want to hear a little bit of it you can I have a clip that goes
on but you can listen to it until you're sick of it. But
this is a abuse of a yet again abusive fellow human beings for
racist
and abusive situation the way I see it. Yeah. Are you by
yourself a lot.
And too much. Yeah. So when these people invited me out, I
thought, Well, that's nice. You know what? I'm going. Despite
everybody else going, let me call the FBI first and check
them out. It's like, Do you know how long I live live? Without
the FBI? checking everything out first. 124512445.
Tell me about that.
My home address 45 is a type of pistol 45 caliber. Yes, that's a
double lot. Six is a you know, it's a shotgun. A sawed off
shotgun. Have you seen the Dr. Phil? show before? Well, you're
a doctor. Right? Have you seen the Dr. Phil show before? Yes.
You've watched it? Yeah, it was hurt. Was that on?
I can't. I can't you bumming me out. Yeah, give me some happy.
Give me something happy, please. Something different? Well, it
can't be the last clip of the show. No, it can't be I'm sorry.
No. Oh, don't worry. Don't worry. Don't worry.
I got a couple of good ones.
I mean, I can just do one last just one quick and then when I
go
I go I get a happy one. Okay. All right. The Stanford band was
prevented from playing at the Cal big game where it's Stanford
one, I think for the seventh or eighth year in a row because
University of California refuses to fire that crappy coach they
have but that's beside the point. But I just thought this
little piece about the Stanford band, and you have to remember
the Stanford band since then I think the 40s is a lewd, lewd
but talented band. I did not know the Stanford band when I
was at Cal and this is I don't know if a long time ago, the
Stanford ban was lewd back then they used to come out with these
with these Sousa forms at Sousa phones that had like marijuana
leafs painted in them. Oh, sounds like it's banned for me.
They run out into the thing and then they make a formation.
They'd run around like maniacs and make a formation. They
didn't do anything marching or anything and they would they I
remember them running around and lining up and then facing the
University of California Student section and yelling Buck yo, at
the top of their lungs. Excellent. So that's the
Stanford band. So here's a little bit on the Stanford band
with some of the more recent incidents.
Excellent. And I love me a good drum cadence by the way so I
could become a fan section is wild during the games, but it
may
not be as wild at this year's big game without the Stanford
band. The band has actually been banned since May 2015 For what
the university called violations from complaints by band members
for sexually explicit and offensive X hazing as well as
violations of alcohol and controlled substance. Just hours
ago, the University told NBC Bay Area despite the ban being
lifted for two recent bowl games, as of today, the band
still had not made enough progress in addressing the
concerns.
I mean, I'm a little bummed that they won't be there because it's
a big part of the school and being part of spirit.
At its band shack headquarters. The band referred us to an
online statement saying it understands the concerns and in
essence is addressing them. The band also turned over its
transportation money. So five busloads of students can ride to
the big game free the band has told us that you know they're
still very, very supportive of the of the team, and they're
gonna do everything they can during this week doing big game
week to support the teams 14 of students and get everyone pumped
up. Now the university did tell us today that the student
affairs staff is working with band leaders and the band's
progress will be reviewed before the Holiday Bowl game season.
Live at Stanford, Robert Honda, NBC Bay
Area News,
Robert Thank you. So suspensions as you might know are nothing
new for the Stanford band you might recall back in 1986, the
band drew a two game suspension for allegedly urinating on the
field during a halftime show. Five years later, Notre Dame
University banned the Stanford band indefinitely after a band
member dressed as a nun, and used a crucifix as a baton. And
in 2004, another suspension after the band's dancers wore
wedding veils and a parody of polygamy at Brigham Young
University.
I love those guys. There's a couple of gals in there too, in
the band deck.
Yeah, it's a wild and crazy bunch. I've always inspired
them. That's cool. I
can here's a clip from one of the girls in the band. Oh, in
this one time at bandcamp. I stuck a flute my posse. Hey, oh,
yeah, it's been a while. It's been.
It's been a while since we played that one. All right.
Thanks, everybody on the stream for hanging in there through
some of the yes, I'll use the word glitch. His and so we're
not going to see the American Music Awards tonight. Going out
to dinner. But there will be some Illuminati shit in there
guaranteed. Probably. I'll let you know all about it. Exactly.
All right. John klient Merci beaucoup. Another show coming up
on Thursday. Remember us at the vortech.org/na. Until then, I
will say man with athletic finger make broad jump. In the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where Plato's say woman
who chopped cocaine was foot toes the line. And John C.
Dvorak.
We will be back on Thursday with another episode right here on no
agenda. Until then. Adios mofos
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College and we're talking about phasing
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his candidacy to go
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somebody can't go back to the darkness he just
been a candidate
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the darkness some people million plus one the darkness the
darkness the Electoral College plus one thing about rules to
the darkness my mind should be to the
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