And where's the bongos? Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, September 1 2016. This is your award winning gizmo
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C. Dvorak. Raglan, Buzzkill.
Funny guy,
you funny guy. Funny
guy. Funny guy. Yes, you are. Yeah, it
was a good, good line. That's the best line. I've heard from
you. Probably for a month or
two. Oh, well, thank you. Well, then I shall get right into my
package. Why don't we do that instead of Trump?
Okay, go.
This apple thing in Europe, I decided to look into it because
I was always interested in nearly Smith Cruz when she was
the anti competition. Commissioner, you've always had
a crush on her. I've met her several times. Okay. And back in
the day. Yeah, she had Kineo. She has kind of that little
involved in this deal? No, she's out. No, no, she doesn't do that
anymore. This is the this is the woman from Denmark, for Skype
for Schoger. But I always was interested in what she was
doing. And it's a very, very, I mean, really a very powerful
position. One of the most powerful. Yes. In the entire
thing. Yeah. So I have three quick clips. And then there's
some interesting things we need to discuss about this. Because
this goes, I mean, the Apple part is really a distraction.
That's really completely unimportant. Except for tech,
horny shows. Really not that important? Is that what they
sound
like? Now there's a whole podcast network where people
just go.
Okay, so here is Margareth first agar from Denmark. And this is
her interview with the BBC explaining briefly what this is
about what
we are questioning is the way that the IRS tax rulings have
worked. And what we see is that the tax rulings has allowed a
huge majority of the profits to be attributed in a head office
that only exist on paper, no employees, no physical premises,
no real activities, and due to ERISA tax legislation until
2017. Also, no tax, and therefore, very, very little
taxes have been paid. The
Irish government, I think, has said it will appeal against
this, because you're targeting it retro actively looking back
into the books in the way that you should.
Well, what we are doing is that we are asking unpaid taxes to be
paid, not a single rule have been changed. So there is no
return activity. In that respect. I think it's a feature
in in most taxation systems that if if the text he puts his eyes
on you, and you find something not appropriate in the past, he
will ask you to pay the unpaid taxes. So no novelty is there.
Okay. So the way this is, I think being played in, in
general in the media is the EU fined apple $17 billion, billion
euros.
That is not true. I don't believe that's the way it's
being. Oh,
that's the way I'm here to seeing it everywhere. Okay, but
here's how I'm gonna give you give me give me your I think I'm
hearing Yeah. Apple did a deal with Ireland. And it was, it was
a deal that I guess was not approved by the EU who is really
the final arbiter. And they all bunch of taxes, and they want
Ireland to collect it. Yeah, I think you
have partially right. The things that are incorrect is that there
is so far no evidence that there was any sweetheart deal. This
was a deal that was put in place when Apple moved their corporate
stuff over to to Ireland, what 20 years ago or something or
maybe maybe even longer than that. And so this has been in
place for a while. And you actually here's Tim Cook
responding on he did a very long interview I guess 25 minute
interview on radio Ireland, whatever it is kind of like the
you know, the beat the Ireland is the the BBC of Ireland.
Here's a couple things that he had to say about it.
And I actually stole some direct questions. Were you given a
deals that were only available to Apple and weren't available
to any other companies?
No, not a single time.
Were you treated differently to everyone else? Were you given
special treatment or sweetheart deals?
No, never. and the European
Commission yesterday said Commissioner investire a He said
that in 2014, Apple paid an effective corporate tax rate of
just 0.005%. That's 50 Euro out of every 1 million euro profit
you made at one of your subsidiaries, Apple Sales and
International, which is based here in Cork. Do you accept
this?
No, it's a false number. I have no idea where the number came
from. It is not true. Here's the truth in that year.
I like saying that, by the way, you know, you can say what is
also true, we'll just say, here's the truth. Oops, sorry,
let me back up here.
Truth in that year, we paid $400 million to Ireland. And that
amount of money was based on the statutory Irish income tax rate
of 12.5%. In addition to that, because our folks there the 6000
employees do various functions for all of Europe. If we sold a
product in another country, there was also in addition to
that 400 income tax paid and that specific country, you know,
depending on what rate they charge, and what's, what's even
larger in terms of, of the actual dollar value, is, as you
probably know, our worldwide profits are subject to
additional US income taxes. And the current US federal rate,
which your viewers may be interested in, is 35%. And we
provisioned several billion dollars for the for us
right now. So that is his his explanation of how they do pay
taxes. Any comments on that before I move on?
I know, but as I do, yeah, a couple of things. Just want to
throw in there. The Jake Tapper are one of the garbage or the
other guy. Excellent work anymore, Chet? No, not yet.
There are no normal spokesperson for the White House. Oh,
Jacob. Yes, sir. Josh, Josh Earnest, thank you.
He came out and he was bitching and moaning about this. And then
somebody analyzed the saying if if, if they're doing this 14
Bill, billion dollars if they're dinged it that they can take
that off the American income tax, someday we'll get less
money. But yeah, so we're,
it's interesting. It's interesting. You say that,
because Jack Lew, who is our Secretary of the Treasury is
outraged. He's really pissed off about this. And I understand
there's a lot of forces at work here. Jack Lew is gone. Hey,
hold on a second.
That's our money.
You say? That's American taxpayer money. You can't take
that. And And do you know who Jack Lew is actually where he
comes from?
I think we talked about him before. I looked
him up because I was you know, take a look at this mofo. Why is
he so pissed off? So he did? Well, he's a lifetime. He's a
lawyer, and he worked for Tip O'Neill. And then he was special
assistant to President Clinton. But then in 2006, he became the
Chief Operating Officer at Citigroup. And guess when his
tenure ended at Citigroup. When in 2008, because what happened
in 2008? Yeah, we had a meltdown. And then he went to
the Treasury. Sure. How about that revolving door? Huh? I love
that guy. Very smart. So he's, he's,
he's writing bad go work for the government. Yeah, he's
rightfully saying, Hey, man, then this is no good. This is
our money. You can take that. So there's a little tension there.
The responsibilities of the European Commissioner for
competition is commercial competition company mergers,
cartels, state aid, and antitrust law have nothing to do
with taxation. But state aid is very clearly spelled out. In C,
although you have to look for it. This was part of the Lisbon
treaty that was signed in and ratified I would say in 2008,
after the Irish no coincidence there. They said no, we're not
we're do over. And then of course, they were convinced to
shut up and play along with the program. So they have all these
different little side letters and side deals and I read the
whole thing, all of this stupid Lisbon Treaty. So now you have
to go to the what is this called? The Consolidated version
of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. So these
are the treaties and you know, the the extra docs and the
protocols. And it indeed says when it comes to state aid,
there's a specific article 87 Eight, T C, regarding taxation
and approximation of laws and there are a couple of things
that you are are allowed to do as state aid and a few things
you aren't I thought it might be interesting to just go through
these six points here. State aid to a company is okay if it has a
social character granted to individual consumers provided
that such age is granted without discrimination. Its aid to make
good the damage caused by natural disasters or exceptional
occurrences. Aid granted the economy of certain areas of the
Federal Republic of Germany, you notice Germany is the only one
who has a little extra clause in there. So insofar as aid is
required to compensate for the economic disadvantages caused by
the division between East and West Germany, and apparently it
says here, five years after the entry into force of the Treaty
of Lisbon, the council acting on a proposal from the Commission
may adopt a decision repealing this special aid to Germany. I
don't recall I looked around I don't recall any any vote but it
should have been had by now as overlooked yet. The following
are the following may be considered compatible age
promote the economic development of areas where the standard of
living is abnormally low, okay, with underemployment aid to
promote the execution of an important project of common
European interest, of course, a to facilitate the development of
certain economic activities of certain economic areas age
promote culture and heritage conservation. And they obviously
taxation breaks is not a part of that. She has incredible power
to do what she's doing. Because she's not leaving a fine. She is
actually asking something that is frightening many countries, I
would say the Netherlands is right up there at the top saying
Hold on a second, how can the EU determine what our tax policies
are and what we have to tax or what we have to levy in
taxation, this is going to be a if you will a constitutional
issue. And if they're taking away so called sweetheart deals,
you know, of the Double Dutch and the Reach around the Irish
thing The Dutch are going to be their economy is based on this.
Well as all they have really left over is accountants,
counties, consultants, companies that you know, like Panama, it's
it's a total tax haven mainly for Russian companies. Ah, which
we'll get to in a moment, here is Bruce dagger responding to
Tom Collins,
he's so many companies who pay that taxes, who contribute to
the society that they're part of where they use the roads, the
infrastructure, higher skilled the employees educated in the
national educational systems, they pay their taxes. And they
of course, you'd expect any other company to do the same.
And that would allow us to have a level playing field. And that,
in my opinion, is only fair.
Is there a risk that this could damage inward investment that
companies could be deterred from setting up companies in the EU?
I mean, Apple has said it will have a profound and harmful
effect on investment and job creation in Europe.
Well, that, of course, depends on the reasons why you set up
operations. Europe is a wonderful place to do business.
The single market has a potential more than 500 million
customers. Very good infrastructure, very strong,
very high quality of research and development. Well,
that may be the case, but the US Treasury has said the
Commission's actions could threaten to undermine foreign
investment in the business climate in Europe.
But you shouldn't invest for substantial reasons you should
invest because you want to do business, not because you want
to avoid taxes. So there's
a lot of
a lot of agendas at play here, particularly when you note that
there were two other companies that were being and there's a
lot actually I went back and looked at speech from first agar
from 2015. Nothing, no clips to pull from it. But she's going I
will of course, they went after Starbucks. That's in the
Netherlands. That's where they started that's being fought out
right now. But they also have an issue with Gazprom. And you're
now going to see people getting a little upset because Gazprom,
who admitted that they overcharged European customers
for gas. Some agreed to pay initially to say, oh, we'll work
on this because maybe a 10% of their net or so but anyway, they
get away with paying 7 billion euro fine for actually breaking
laws, not taxation tricks, but for ripping people off and they
get a sweetheart deal. Just give us 7 billion in the FBI. It's
okay, go away. So we're seeing these visions now. And I think
that Europe is hedging their bets on the next president or
whatever they may see coming. But this is I think this is
hostile
Well, I'm not going to disagree with that at all because I think
since they we started watching years ago when you had your
buddy there in the Dutch woman, yes, yeah, melee, but slamming
Microsoft and some of these other companies with huge fines
for just minor infractions. And it always I've said this since
the beginning, I'm very consistent about this. I've said
this is just gouging the American companies to get money
out of them because they're dominant companies, many of them
in my apples a good example of a company that just dominates in
its arena.
And it also says a lot about what the other countries in the
EU can expect to come down the pipeline when it comes to
although the Netherlands Yeah, why maybe there's maybe this
isn't as a side note, how come the whole country the whole
economy hasn't been wiped out because of the sweetheart deals
they make for I mean, also in the Netherlands, well known as
one of the few countries in the world there's no taxation on
creative royalties and zero so who has big offices a huge
beautiful buildings on the cash istructe canal the Rolling
Stones you to be in all these guys they got everything there
because there's no taxation on that and that will I think, that
will have to end unless because they're doing so much business
for the Russians and apparently the Russians are getting kind of
a an easy deal on this maybe it won't happen
well that's what we don't know. I also think if you're gonna go
into kind of looking at this a different dimensions, is it
possible Yeah, because all these countries are starving to death
and they're trying to you know, getting a bunch of you know, 10s
of billions of dollars just flat out easy just by making them
write a check is great. Yeah, but I would but the thing that
kind of the kicker in this is that the money has to go to
Ireland now it's possible that there was a sweet deal done in
the background of the Irish saying you know, we've done this
great deal these some of these deals would have been going
broke here doing this is there any way you can like do you help
us out get us little dough map I'm finding them and making
getting us the money because we'd actually like to get that
money and meanwhile you know, we had nothing to do with it. We're
gonna we're gonna appeal this we're gonna
protest this okay, that's an interesting way of looking at it
I Yeah, not bad that well who's who benefit? Yeah, but not the
EU. That's for sure. Oh, Ireland Ireland
benefit so I suspected they may be I
like that feeling Tim Cook I'm sorry, man. But yeah, my hands
are tied.
We're gonna protest it Yeah,
we're gonna protest it for a short time
be getting screwed by the Irish
and of course all of this is great preamble for the iPhone
seven obviously, doesn't matter what they're saying. As long as
they're talking about you then yeah, good. Pretty good print as
it as if they need it. But what is the tech corny press on like,
again? That's right. It's exactly what they said. Yeah.
It's like, Apple comm book. There we go. That's the tech
press. This tech podcast and American Baby. They everywhere
really?
Air Okay, I
just had to get that off my chest because I think it's I'm
keeping my eye on it. I'm calling it my beat. Now. The
Euro land, annual Invitational gene gouge, zero land gouging.
And we change that in the show notes. Euro land gouging? Very
nice. Even
more gouging. Perfect. Perfect. Well, there was a lot of action
this week. I agree. My favorite of course is never say never
wiener.
Ah, yeah, this was, this was fantastic. Once you got I
have to say something. I was thinking about this, you know,
and, you know, there's a lot of events, you know, we imply that
Aberdeen is a
no, no, I'm not going to imply I'm going to say that she's a
lesbian and VAs beard. Maybe she's bisexual. Hold
on. Let's back it up for one second, our original analysis.
And I've I interviewed Anthony wiener for CNN a long time ago.
And I think I've told the story. Maybe I should just bring it
back up quickly. He was councilman in Brooklyn, and CNN
had this brilliant idea. Oh, let's get a young guy from MTV
and the young politician. Yeah, it would be cool to have a like
young young thing as a young young young Yeah. So I go to
Brooklyn and you know do this you noticed a typical CNN
production and wiener is he'll budget low budget but you know
that had a good producer on it. But wiener he's he's one of
these guys. Then he knows Like, and then let's go into that and
he goes into a deli. Hi, everybody. Hi, I'm councilman.
We found the holes in one of those guys like completely just
a douche. total douche. Yeah. And he was Chuck Schumer's boy,
he was a made man. In fact, for that piece, it may be on the
Internet somewhere. I also had to interview Chuck Schumer,
which I was way out of my depth. I remember being very
uncomfortable, not knowing what the hell was going on. But it
was obvious. He was a made man and the whole thing was that the
Ummah had been with the Clintons for 10 years. Oh, I bet this may
be five years before she met wiener. And they got married
Bill officiated the wedding. But for all, all indications I have
is that there is a is or has been, or there's a very close
personal relationship between Hillary and Huma, and I'm gonna
say they're lovers. And it was handy to have wiener on board to
play the beard. And he was promised, obviously, you know, a
run up to something big and he was in, he was gonna take over
strimmers job. That's kind of what you'd expect. Yeah. And you
know, because when you are someone who is pretending to be
somebody else, particularly when it comes to sexual frustrations
and issues, the guides he's, he can't stand it anymore. So he
started texting kid. Take it, take it, I
gotta hug girls look at this.
Yes, exactly. And it just, it wouldn't stop. And then of
course, you know, you got caught in the lie, and that made it
worse. And then they tried to shut up now and then then he got
caught again. This time was really bad with a picture of him
and his his, his Johnson clearly protruding on his pants with his
kid next to him. The whole thing was that bad time, this is the
third time. And so the UMA says, Okay, that's it. I'm done. I'm
divorcing him now. Just and then I'll shut up. If he divorces,
then there's no protection of him testifying against Uma,
which may be may come up someday. And I'm thinking he
should avoid small aviation hot tubs and canoes. On the Potomac.
This is a very, this is very bad for him and it would be easily
explained away as a suicide. And everyone would buy it
immediately. Yes, yeah, of course. Well, let's
play wiener one. This is the ABC, one of the ABC reports.
Nothing like Wiener one everybody. David ride free
tonight. David,
thank you. And we do move on now to that breaking news about one
of Hillary Clinton's closest aides, who will Aberdeen
separating from her husband Anthony wiener after reports
that he was sexting again. Aberdeen was with Clinton last
night at a fundraiser in the Hamptons. Clinton's opponent
Donald Trump regularly mentioned winners disgrace in his campaign
speeches, calling him a security threat. NBC Cecilia Vega is with
the Clinton campaign tonight.
Tonight Hillary Clinton's closest aide is splitting from
her disgraced husband and announcement that comes just
hours after a New York tabloid reported Anthony Weiner was
sexting again whom Aberdeen saying after long and painful
consideration and work on my marriage, I have made the
decision to separate from my husband. It was the third time
in five years wiener made embarrassing headlines. I'm here
today to again apologize. In 2011 he resigned from Congress
after accidentally tweeting a lewd photo of himself.
I make this apology to my neighbors and my constituents.
But I make it particularly to my wife Huma.
Two years later, as he ran for New York City Mayor said
let me just reiterate to my wife. how sorry I am that
Aberdeen by his side. Even as more women came forward with
more sexting allegations and love him. I have forgiven him.
I believe in him.
Behind the Scenes cringe worthy moments. For a second is all
laid out in a documentary released earlier this year. A
nightmare. Still in a recent vote profile, Aberdeen praised
her husband for being quote, essentially a full time dad to
their son Jordan. Today the New York Post reported that in 2015,
we intersected a woman with his son by his side. Aberdeen has
been in the Clinton inner circle for two decades. She is the
gatekeeper to the woman in charge her
number one person. Alma Aberdeen is married to Anthony Weiner,
who is a sleazeball and approver
Donald Trump to date and turning Aberdeen's marriage into an
attack.
She's married to a guy that is uncontrolled and uncontrollable.
He's a sick person. And you know she has access to classified
information
Trump adding who knows what wiener learned and who he told
suck Yo
Boom shaka laka laka you like that one is a new one and as
cute masala I would do as he did this report is a couple of
things to note one was they had a picture of Uma, I guess just a
word got out and I think she was in the Hamptons because a couple
of pictures I think it from the Hamptons where Hillary is
cashing in. First there was a woman Hillary would look like
she just got out of bed and some sort of a weird it looks like it
wasn't a bathrobe but it was a crazy looking.
Oh no, no, this is the I saw this. This it it's a designer
garb it's a garb is really what it is. But it's it's almost she
almost looks like a Russian babushka doll.
It's horrible. And
what what the rumor on the interwebs is that she's hiding
medical devices under their catheters all kinds of stuff.
pumps
like Dick Cheney. Anyway, she had a heart in a bag Lumo they
showed us a picture of her and she looks so depressed Yeah, I
saw that. It was not a not a pleasant sight but they
Hey divorce sucks in this world the public
is humiliating to her she's seems like a very you know she
doesn't like this and know that it's you she's a targeted woman
which is probably considering her background is not
unexpected. Let's play that you this is the clip now this is
interesting because ABC which I put in the in the leaner report
in the kind of the quasi Trump camp, they decided to balance
off this report a little bit because this was like a kind of
an you know, more or less an anti Hillary thing but so here's
the way they do this. This is the balance. And I thought this
was like about as unbalanced a balanced as I could imagine, but
this is the balance of this the end as they finish that long
report you just played now they finished day rapid with this.
Again, Cecilia
Vega joins me now. So Celia Trump also dealing with his own
controversy tonight, involving former Ku Klux Klan leader David
Duke.
David Duke is running for Senate Tom in Louisiana and he put out
a robo call urging voters to support both him and Donald
Trump a swift response from Trump's campaign tonight
disavowing the former K K K leader. You'll remember that
last year Trump came under fire for not disavowing and fast
enough Tom a different story tonight. Cecilia Vega
first Celia, thank you.
So they just put a whole bunch of stuff on the shelf is like,
Hey, we gotta balance this shit out. Got a Trump thing? Got a
Trump Trump? giblet. Give me one of those. Yeah, exactly. How In
fact, it went more like they got to balance out this. We got a
battle of Trump. We're 30 seconds
place. That's how they do it. You love that?
I do. I'm good at it. I should have been. You should have been
a director.
All right, everybody.
But a television right now not a movie.
That guy Yeah, television during a different guy in a control
room. And if you've ever worked with
this, as I've lived this for decades, you know, that's why I
do it.
But when you work with them, if you're in the control room,
yeah. There are these there's different styles of guys who do
this or hell yeah. And there's a you know, the and the guys who
are the guy who we used to use the Tech TV the TV guys were
very low energy and people said Jesus guys in there. Yeah, I'd
never you know, people who had the clue. This is get low
energy, you
know, you know why? Go ahead. I want explain my experience.
Yeah, they would
bring in a God. There's just one guy is in the Bay Area, who is
extremely famous consultant who does this kind of work. And he
goes in there and holy mackerel. He gets the place jacked up,
right. He's got just calling shots. He's jumping around. He's
yelling and screaming at everybody and condemning him and
tell him to do this and that and then bring the camera and do
this. Do that. And he's just and at the end of the half hour or
hour, whatever the show is this guy. Everybody's pooped. Oh,
yeah.
Oh, yeah. But if you want to see the if you haven't up, anyone
can do this. In America, at least for sure. Go to your local
station and say with me, I'm a student, college student,
whatever, you know, I'm doing a thesis, my PhD. I'd like to sit
in while you're doing the local news. I'd like to sit in the
control room view we'll get an education on. It's incredible to
watch because you have to be a team. And even though the
directors have different styles, here's my experience. So the
director does a lot in the homework. He's like, Okay, this
we're gonna have we're gonna have these people at this many
cameras. Here's how I want it set up. The person doing the
most work during a certainly a taping or live broadcast is the
assistant director. Very typical as a woman in this business. And
the assistant director is present about 15 seconds ahead
of everybody else. So he or she is saying Okay, camera three
goes set up over there because we got Got the next item coming
up camera to find a new shot and then the director. The ones that
I've worked with the most will be just sitting there going like
one okay and to to ready to and we're gonna go watch out watch
it for now okay and we're gonna go back to one one and so that's
he's pretty much just looking at the what is being offered but it
is the assistant director and the camera people who are
getting everything all all set up. But those guys that you're
talking about I've seen that too. And actually I don't like
that very much. Do you have directors who
are still like it much either? I like it a lot. What because I'm
not in there doing any work I'm just watching. Right I think
it's just highly entertaining to watch these the the frenetic guy
the frenetic actor, right. He was on foods explosive. Yes.
Yeah, that guy is just wow. And they don't keep up they usually
long and they go back to these more down, you know, kind of
more relaxed types of
people. And then we had for a while remember when David
Letterman had his female director would talk over the
intercom. Yeah, he started doing that gag.
Yeah, was a great gag. Everyone started
doing it all the directors thought they now had the license
to come on the show. Yeah, it'd be on the show. Exactly when the
show. And then my favorite Milton. I loved Milton. Milton
was his Greek guy at MTV young guy, a little older me, but at
the time, we were all young. And he directed club MTV, and he got
so much tail man is unbelievable. Hey, baby, you
want to be in the shot today? God, baby, I saw you dancing
sleazebag. Yeah, you know, and you know who we bank several
times. Kamil, who later went on to marry what's his name? The
actor from cheers that guy.
I don't know. Camille and Kelsey Grammer. She? Yeah, he's
one of one of Kelsey grammars while I
divorced, of course. But yeah, she was 60 and she looks for 30
It was amazing. It was Mr. Potatohead put together. That's
really cool. Anyway, how do we get started because
your do you do the bit? You do that beforehand? almost more
like a movie. In fact, Hey, guys, we're going on to another
topic already. It's a guy who it's kind of a it's a composite
of different kinds of guys who would have who would have a
megaphone, which is not likely but it's it's everybody put
together it is a fantastic bit. And as long as you don't
overuse, overuse, I'll but you are great. Your site is exactly
the case. You get the right you get the right chatter, the right
buzzwords the right sound decided the nastiness the whole
thing is perfect.
All right. Oh.
That's that's what the director was saying. Yeah, the whole VNA.
Exactly what he would say, hey, so I watched Trump's speech in
Phoenix. Actually, I watched most of his stuff yesterday.
Watch the thing with the with the Mexican president. I watched
him in festa. You have some stuff here as well. i i
deconstructed his speech with a couple of clips. So maybe you
will start with your stuff. What do I have? You say Trump to
Mexico? I see you have Mexico stuff.
Oh, that's just Yeah.
Up with it, which one do I do? Well, which ones are there? I
got your clips. There's ABC and then there's one with a kicker.
The ABC goes first. Then you played the clip kicker.
And John, this surprise trip was a real gamble for Trump. It was
a big gamble. Tom Trump could have faced mass protests. He
could have been hammered by Mexico's president. But this was
a gamble that paid off candidate Trump's first meeting with a
world leader and he seemed able to play the part. Tom Jonathan
Karl froze tonight, John, thank you. Also today Hillary Clinton
trashed Donald Trump and his trip to Mexico described it as
just a photo op. She's back on the campaign trail tonight after
days of glitzy fundraisers and some troubling news for her in
the polls. ABC Cecilia Vega is with the campaign in Cincinnati.
Hillary Clinton didn't mention Donald Trump's name or even the
country he was visiting. What she did say he is not a leader.
It's
more than a photo op. It takes consistency and reliability. And
it certainly takes more than trying to make up for a year of
insults and insinuations. By dropping in on our neighbors for
a few hours. And then flying home again. That is not how it
works.
She also fired off this video using Trump's own words against
him, including his attack on a Mexican
American judge for building
a wall. He's a Mexican,
this is only Clinton's fourth public appearance in two weeks.
Trump clocking in more than three times that and she's still
not taking questions. What message do you think Donald
Trump's Mexico trip sends madam secretary Oh, do you have plans
to go to Mexico Madame Secretary? In recent days,
Clinton has instead been in the posh Hamptons, where she raised
more than $12 million with a list celebrities like Bon Jovi
and Paul McCartney. But with just 69 days
Wow, that must have been some party that's
gonna have to play the rest of it. But let me just make a few
comments. This is an ad This is on ABC again. Yeah. Incredibly
anti Hillary piece. That sounds like she's lazy. She's,
she's hanging out with Bon Jovi,
and she's hanging out with Bon Jovi and the Hamptons, just
cashing in. And by the way, when they have the clip of her
speaking, I think that was the the VFW Yeah. Are you telling me
that she commands to under $25,000 for a speech if she if
that's the way she talks, wo and R G, and then miss.
And her hair looks horrible?
Ah, you noticed it too.
And it looked like she had less hair than she normally has her
hair.
Where's the hairdresser from Paris fly him out, Pierre.
I saw that hair. And it's like, if she's in the Hamptons, she's
got access to great hairdressers. They're all over
the place. Yeah. It looks like somebody just did a comb out.
And not even not even though she went down.
She just I don't know. I have no idea what was wrong there.
It was flat. And it was really bad. It was bad.
She's blowing it. Yeah,
I agree. What's your kicker?
The kicker is not important. The kicker is just that Biden's
gonna go out and speak for me here.
We agree on the importance of ending the illegal
flow of drugs,
cash, guns and people across our border. And to put the cartels
out of business. Perfect.
This, this is rather interesting. We boast the
kicker. That's what it says. Oh, I'm sorry. That was Michael. No,
no, I made a mistake. That was my clip. And I was like, wow,
you have the same click as me clip as me. I'm sorry. Here's
your clip.
Cecilia joins us now from Cincinnati and Cecilia Hillary
Clinton is about to get a big assist from the White House.
President Obama will be out at least a dozen times to campaign
for her between now and Election Day to try and help her win
young voters Vice President Biden will be out at least twice
a week starting tomorrow, right here in Ohio Tom?
Sorry, here's what happened. Both our clips are exactly the
same length. Looking at them, they both say Trump and Mexico.
And I played the wrong one. I'm sorry, I thought you had the
exact same clip as I had, which I'd like to play because I have
kind of a different theory may be about why he went to Mexico.
Okay. So he flies into Phoenix. And he does, you know, does his
his bio, which I thought was a very interesting speech to
listen to. He gave us a lot of information on you wouldn't know
it from listening to the mainstream news. But this is
what he started off with a play it again,
we agree on the importance of ending the illegal flow of
drugs, cash, guns and people across our border and to put the
cartels out of business. There we go. Now,
so we have discussed this wall before. And it has always been
my thesis theory, whatever you want to call it, that this wall
will be fantastic for controlling the drugs, mainly
the drugs, the monies is a banking issue. But mainly the
drug, the drugs are not going to stop. But maybe we can and I
think this is where Trump is coming from thinking that he
must have some ties to at least cartel slash gangs mob in New
York. You can't be a builder without knowing the guys for
sure. And that he went to the President of Mexico who has
known ties to drug cartels bore a drug A I was probably say a
drug cartel he is.
Let me see I have no have to be Sinaloa or it wouldn't be I'm
pretty sure it's I'm pretty sure it's Sinaloa and that's the ones
that we're doing business with as Yes, yes.
Now, did you notice recently there was very underreport, I
think we may have just talked about ancillary that two things
happened. 24 members of El Chapo Sinaloa drug cartel were
arrested. Let me give you the date on this. This was a couple
months ago, and that happened in Tucson. Now, I think these may
have been a no, I'm not quite sure if they really were Sinaloa
or what to do. Deal is but there was a big round up. And just a
few weeks ago, we had a big round up of mobsters in New
York. 46 in fact, that the FBI arrested now we know the FBI is
on the Trump side. Trump is very kind to FBI. They the Feds
claimed that this was the East Coast LCN enterprise, but at the
same time, which was almost not reported, John Gotti his
grandson was arrested on some form of drug charges. So, just
taking it out into theoretical because I really don't have much
more information. But you know, these issues I mean, you get 46
Mob members or they were Did they have a field day where they
were they camping? How'd you get them all the same? Are they
doing all at the same time all happened to be around and we
rolled them all up? Now? It's coincidental? Maybe Trump wins
that Look, man, I don't know what to Hillary offered you. But
I've got the FBI will clean out all these look, we already did a
little pre cleaning for you. We got rid of these other New York
guys. They're no good. All the shitty guys who pretend they're
saying hello, or the nod or whatever it is. We're moving all
those out of the way. This is all fantastic. So when when I'm
President, we're going to have a special door for you and for the
drugs or whatever. Notice he says he always says illegal
drugs and never says drugs are way too Oh, it's always illegal.
Well, maybe won't be that illegal if it's kind of
sanctioned. And this would probably explain why the
President was so easy on him. Because he knows look, I have
Yeah, it's a six year tenure. I think he's he's been there three
years now. So he's gonna have another two, three years with
the next president. And he's this guy. The pred the Mexican
president is definitely in with Sinaloa, or a, you know, he's
not dead. Does that tell you anything? He has been rounding
people up, but he's not dead. And not everybody gets rounded
up. So I'm thinking that this was the intent of the meeting.
That's all that really, Trump seemed to want to talk about in
the beginning of his speech.
The beginning of the speeches to get giveaway, that's what you
Yeah. Included. So the first words out of his mouth first
words.
That was on his mind? Yeah. Okay, so now supposedly, by the
way, supposedly, the ento Pinto, whatever his name, is that
President down there, his name is always hard to pronounce.
Yeah. It invited both Trump and Hillary and Hillary. Hillary
didn't have the energy to go down there didn't want to Well,
it's
not. It's not typically done. But you know, she know, nobody
doesn't say she knows the proper way to do and then Trump
doesn't. So he shut down. They're making himself look
good. And that's why Hillary got so bent out of shape. And her
hair was a mess when she gave this speech to the VFW. Uh huh.
Without mentioning Trump's she's sad that she went out of her way
not to mention Trump, and then she goes into this law. She's
spending way too much time it seems to me well, from a
strategic perspective,
drawing attention to Trump. Everyone's drawing
talks about Yeah, that's what everyone seems to be doing
drawing attention to Trump. Oh, hell yeah. But also, if Hillary
wants to go somewhere like Mexico, you know, she can't just
say like, I'm sure Trump's like they, they're let's go to
Mexico. Warm up and jet, we're on the way. know, Hillary has to
bet. First of all, someone else has to pay for the jet. Right?
That we know that we know, if you she's going anywhere, you're
not paying for the jet. So when asked to pay for the jet, that's
the people have to go ahead of time. She's got a whole
operation that she thinks is necessary for her travel. I
don't know maybe they have to get the medical devices in place
and her dialysis machine. I don't know what she needs. But
it's not that simple for her to pop over. And I think it was a
brilliant move. The funniest thing was to see the heads
exploding on television, because he had to see Donald Trump
looking very leader like, next to the President of Mexico, and
then the President Mexico being like, hey, yeah, this is great.
And only kind of tweeting later I did say at the beginning of
our meeting, where we're not going to pay for the wall. No
mention of that. No mention of that in this in this press
conference also was apparently supposed to be just two
speeches, and there'll be no questions asked, and then Trump
went to questions right after. And so of course, I was
switching around and I thought Rachel Maddow was funny. By the
way on her set, now, she has a trumping Jada, on the set next
to her
right on this set. Yes.
Right over her shoulder. In the background, you know, but
yeah, no bias there.
Yeah, I'm trumping yada you know, to get hit hit one of the
candidate. Yeah, it's really, really disgusting. So, she gets
to Jose, whatever his name is on from Univision
and the Trump
hater and the Trump Well, Rachel Maddow has a lead into this,
which is funny. And then he has a theory, because of course, you
know, this is the Mexican president's very, very smart.
Now, the next thing he laid a trap for Trump was a
Do you have any sense? What is your guest about? Are your
guests about why the Mexican president did invite Trump I
mean, one theory is that he never thought that he would come
and then he just had to deal with the consequences once he
decided to show up. I mean, when I look at just the what I
understand about his political motivation, inviting somebody
who was probably the least popular human being on Earth,
Oh, really?
Do John, the most popular, unpopular human being on Earth
for Mexicans. For Mexicans?
Motivation, inviting somebody who was probably the least
popular human being on Earth among the Mexican people,
bringing that guy in for anything other than a dressing
down, just makes no political sense to me at all. Why do you
think he did it
for a dressing down? He should have dressed him down? That's
what's going on? Okay.
I think that I have to go. And again, I don't like speculating
on things that I have no evidence on, but I have to think
that he's on TV, he's got to do some
thing that the President Pena Nieto felt that by bringing
Donald Trump in here and actually saying, I'm looking
forward to the future, and dressing him down, would be very
beneficial when he's got such low approval ratings. But I
think he just wasn't expecting what Donald Trump did and said
and how he did it.
Okay, so they agree the idea should have been bring him in,
dress him down. What exactly does that mean? dress him down?
Cut him a new butthole
Oh, this should have said that. And here's the theory.
I'll tell you, this is gonna have repercussions here in
Mexico, Rachel, because already people were like wondering why
he had invited Donald Trump and then after today, I wouldn't be
surprised, Rachel, if in the next couple of days, maybe a
week or two mysteriously leaked video of that meeting, showed up
on national network television here, which have a very close
relationship with the president of Mexico and the Revolutionary
Party of that he represents. Because if the president of
Mexico was that dogmatic with Donald Trump, and then his being
in front of his nation, because this was this was a this was
shown to the country, he totally is a liar. I wouldn't be
surprised if that video shows up. Wow. I just would go into
deadly, you know, like a freak of nature.
Coincidentally, like a freak of nature. Yeah, though. Wishful
thinking, buddy. That is wishful thinking. Okay. So, now if you
listen to that,
but the other thing is, it was the listen to those two going
with it, you know, unlikely pair, but they they keep
mentioning that. Unless somebody proves this wrong. He invited
both Hillary and the and Trump Yeah, they never say that. They
keep saying the invited Hill, Trump only? Well, what's the
reason for that? The explanation? What's the reason
for them leaving that out?
Because it's very poor that well, no, because Trump did a
good thing. He looked the look great. And Hillary wasn't there.
So I've just, I think the idea is to protect Hillary from
looking stupid and foolish for not going how's it? How's that?
Yeah, maybe,
whatever. What else?
Did I can't think of anything else. That's why I'm asking.
So Trump, this speech, which I thought was I liked his
demeanor, like how he talked I, you know, I was listening to I
was really trying to figure out what he was going to do what he
was going to say he had some very, very important points that
are not being discussed by just turn on. I know, it's hard to
even turn it on on third show days a turn on CNN, MSNBC, Fox,
I'm looking at everything. All they're talking about is, well,
you know, I didn't talk about who's gonna pay for the wall.
They should do a tech podcast. They sound pretty similar. But
Trump had some actual policy statements in his speech, which
you which he read, but they were interesting, and I looked them
up. I have not heard anyone talk about this since his Phoenix
speech about what he actually said we will
restore the highly successful, Secure Communities program good
program. We will expand and revitalize the popular 287 G
partnerships, which will help to identify hundreds of 1000s of
deportable aliens in local jails that we don't even know about.
Out. Both of these programs had been recklessly gutted by this
administration. And those were programs that worked. This is
yet one more area where we are headed in a totally opposite
direction. There's no common sense. There is no brain power
in our administration by our a leader or our leaders. None,
none. None
of which I thought was a good ISO None. None. None. I just
like it. Okay, so why does no one take five seconds of time to
go look these two programs up?
Why that would be crazy.
Yeah, it's crazy work,
Secure Communities and administrative immigration
policies and American deportation program that relies
on partnership among federal, state and local law enforcement
agencies. Ice which is our deportation force, we do have
one that is the US Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. The
interior immigration enforcement agency within Department of
Homeland Security, they will be running this program. And the
idea is to identify criminal aliens through modernizing
information sharing with the states and local communities,
prioritize enforcement actions to ensure apprehension and
removal of dangerous criminal aliens and transform criminal
alien enforcement processes and systems to achieve lasting
results of sounds pretty good. There are some other things in
this which are troublesome the biometric database, which ice
and FBI are working on together to take advantage of the already
strong relationships they have. Now, this does not mean that
every American citizen will have to hand over their biometrics,
but it's only a matter of time, believe me. Now this. This
program was kind of put on the back burner by the Obama
administration. And there were a couple of lawsuits. That slowed
a lot of things down but it seems like a reasonable program.
The second one is the 287 G program, which I'd never heard
of. And this is the delegation of immigration authority.
Section 287 G of the Immigration and Nationality Act. And in this
US Immigration and Customs Enforcement ice, the largest
investigative agency
in immigration, nationality, immigration naturalization,
it says Immigration and Nationality Act. Yeah, well,
there's a lot more to it. This is just one section 287 G. As a
part of state, DHS and ISIS mission enforces federal
immigration laws as part of their homeland security mission.
Ice works closely with federal, state and local law enforcement
partners in this mission, the 287 G program would have ices
top partnerships, initiative partnership initiatives allows
the state and local law enforcement entity to enter into
a partnership with ice under a joint Memorandum of Agreement.
Moa a state or local entity receives delegated authority for
immigration enforcement within their jurisdictions. Sounds like
another reasonable idea. I mean, yes, we'll have Gestapo but you
know, if you want to get the illegal people out of the
country, we had these programs in place, and they apparently
have been thwarted, suppressed, or by executive order the been
told not to follow through on these. So I find it interesting
that no one just said, Hey, what is he really talking about? And
we and there's really no new laws necessary?
That's an old argument. And I think it's true. There's we have
all the laws on the books, you don't need to do a reform.
That's what they say immigration reform, there's no reason they
don't they're not enforcing the laws they currently have what
they want to new development. Well,
they will then I'll correct you. They do enforce the laws they
have. But on interesting people, I've dealt with the US
immigration system right then so I have standing in this area.
And the biggest problem is it's a ripoff. It's too expensive. It
costs about $5,000 per person to go through the process, above
which half actually there's about half of the lawyers are
legal fees, and half in fees to Department of Homeland Security,
which are really outrageous fees and fun. I've said it before one
of their fees on one of the I think maybe even the biometrics
form is $420 Yeah, I get the joke. DHS very funny. Yeah, I
get it, I get it. Now, there is one difference in what Trump is
going to do. So he said very specifically, the only path
towards Lee being a legal resident, not even a citizen,
but a legal resident is to return from the country you came
from, and then come back in and or apply for the process,
through whatever process there will be which Trump promises
will be a very efficient process. And it's anything would
be more efficient at this point. But it's not broken, except for
the idea that you can come in on a visa waiver and just stay. And
then after 10 years, say who I want to be a citizen. And so he
does have an exception to this. And I had listed a couple times
to really understand what he was saying, but I think there's a
lot of room a lot of wiggle room in this
the establishment of our new lawful immigration system, then,
and only then will we be in a position to consider the
appropriate disposition of those individuals who remain, that
discussion can take place only in an atmosphere in which
illegal immigration is a memory of the past, no longer with us,
allowing us to weigh the different options available,
based on the new circumstances at the time.
Here's what I hear.
You are going to be pretty safe until we have the new laws in
the books. And then if you're still here, we have we'll have a
number of options to see what we're going to do with you. That
sounded kind of weak to me.
Sounds like that's what he said. Yes. Yeah. Might be weak. But
any not his old old style is the old thing.
No, no, but
I don't think anyone is really even All I hear is the who's
going to pay for the wall everywhere. This is a this is
not a hard thing to just look and get off that. Yeah, it's
it's Yeah, I can't it's it's a no, not you. Oh, they know, they
can't get off of it. No, super gonna get off it either. But,
I mean, I
don't even think that's much of an issue. I mean, yeah, the
Mexican would they, you know, there's everyone's thinking, are
they gonna write a check? The Mexican gangs are gonna write a
check for the wall. Now you just have an excise tax or something
of stuff crossing over where people who are coming in from
Mexico to do some day work. You charge them a dime. Yeah. I
mean, that's how you debt and they're paying. In
fact, it says that, John, it says that on Trump's website.
Yeah. I mean, it's there in black and white. It says How
will Mexico pay for the wall by living fees for Air Force entry
into the into the United States de
pays for reliable pay for a lot? Yeah. Give me those nickels and
dimes?
Well, it's not very expensive. A couple billion to make a wall.
Hey, George Soros.
Speaking of a wall,
George Soros, I don't think that he's going to win. George Soros
thinks Trump is going to win actually.
I heard that I listened to that little spiel to re listen
together. Well, you might as well I don't know what he's
talking about, to be honest about. I think he's gonna win
the popular vote by a lot and then lose the Electoral College.
No, that's not that you can't do that. It's not possible. Oh, I
don't have to play the clip. Now. That's exactly what I'm
saying.
is what he said.
But what does the fact that Donald Trump is not fading?
Gotta practices? fading?
I'm sorry
that he is still very popular. Tell us about the angst or fears
about voters? And what are the policies policies and the voters
in the US
voters? Here, I have to confess to a little bit of bias. take
that into account. I think all it's going to lead to a
landslide for Donald Trump and in the popular vote, not just
the electoral vote, because they're paid political
announcers will have a big role. And so the electoral thing will
be closer. But the popular vote will be a landslide, because we
are the small minority of extremists. And so we are all
moved moving in that direction. And while I don't think that
Donald Trump has any chance of being elected,
but you think Hillary Clinton is a done deal,
and I don't think actually she's the one who's most qualified
boy,
don't come read the vorak. Why do you not think he gave me the
popular vote but not the not?
The electoral college is pretty closely tied to the popular vote
and the reason it exists? as to prevent some horrible tragedy
from happening, which, of course, is what everyone thinks
Trump, Trump would be. And that energy generally only kind of
kicks in when the vote is various kind of close and one
party kind of wins, like, by a small margin, they win the
popular vote, but then the Electoral College gives it to
the other person this shows up with Gore versus Clinton, I
think it may have shown up with the candidate. Election,
you don't think it's possible that that could happen? You
know, it's one of those things, I'm
saying that, based on all the elections that have taken place,
it's never happened. It never happened. It happens. It is a
very close vote, but it cannot happen. If it's a landslide. It
just can't. But
we do know that the electoral college is in place, mainly to
ensure that if some crazy person is elected, that they cannot
become president, is that not right? And we've only had this
was
the original intent. But over time, it's turned out to be kind
of a i don't know i I've written on this. And I think I've linked
to it a couple of times, I get an essay out there saying that I
don't see how this electoral college can continue to exist,
mainly because that hurts the media.
And how does it hurt the media,
it hurts the media. And so I'm suspecting that eventually the
media is going to get a clue and say, Wait a minute,
how does it hurt the media?
It hurts the media houses, why it hurts the media, because you
designate you start a campaign, you designate the five states as
the important states that have to you have to win because when
you Windows five states, you get the Electoral College, what are
what are those five states that the election, but generally
speaking, it's Ohio, Pennsylvania, the states like
the states like California for that list, to do it in a little
backwards way by explaining it this way, please, just states
their states.
I'm gonna stop you there. Since we have an international
audience, who are probably not educated at all at all at all at
all at all by the media in their own countries. Why don't we just
explain briefly how the Electoral College works?
The Electoral College, if you win, there's 50 states, each
state has X number of electoral college votes. If if California
goes to one candidate, the Electoral College gets their
votes. And and the electoral college is a separate entity and
a guest has a meeting and says, Okay, you get your votes yours.
Do you all the votes go get piled into, you know, who voted
for who and who voted for who and then they decide who the
president is. They're the ones who would elect the president.
And it's done in a kind of representative democracy way.
And you when you have states that winner take all states like
California, where all the Electoral College votes go to
one candidate. And California is got lots of votes. And
California is in the bag. Right? It's in the bag for the Democrat
in which would be Hillary Clinton. The media and
California suffers, they get no advertising benefits, of course,
no money whatsoever. Yes. All the Los Angeles Times all these
guys get screwed out of millions and millions and millions of
dollars in advertising. And we're talking about a couple
billion dollars that are going to go into advertising and those
those billions go to places like Ohio that's always on the cusp,
it could go either way. So boom, Ohio, gets all the money, all
the newspapers, dipshit operations in Ohio, get all this
money. And they just run ads all day and includes the radio
stations, the television stations, the newspapers, they
all get this money. And California gets nothing. This
sucks. We got the most votes, we get no money from all that from
the election. The media is not, doesn't like that. Gotcha.
So they probably in California, the news probably doesn't even
talk about the Electoral College at all. There's
just no reason to talk about anything, Ella Fornia it's in
the bag for the Democrat and
just so you people know it's confusing, but a college can of
course be an educational institution. But it also is an
organized group of professional people who have particular aims
duties and privileges. So it's an association the society club
and institute a fellowship a guild a large club. And that the
number of electoral college votes is is determined by size
or number of inhabitants by population Yeah, which is why we
use the head count slaves is a half a person
or a third I think
Damn. So three slaves. Hey, got another I got another vote here.
Very nice.
Well, yeah, the vote would be taken by the this is a
controversy that was written about by Karl Marx and his
really, there's a fantastic book on the American Civil War by
Karl Marx and I think angles and it was mostly papers, a
collection of papers and letters back and forth between Marx and
Engels. Martin Marx
was a blogger.
Marx was a blogger. Yeah, he wasn't
one of the early bloggers
and angles was an angles by the way is was the hard ass of the
two. And people don't realize and I've talked this over with
people that kind of know more about this than I do. And it the
whole idea of Marxism really and and he should be angled lism
angle was the hard ass. Yeah, Marx was, was a journalist, he
referred to a couple of New York newspapers, blogger and blogger,
he was a blogger. And so he was talking about how the south and
this I got, I really have to go back and look at this a little
more closely because I never heard this before. And I was
kind of specialized in Civil War studies, when I was at Cal. And
Mark says that the slave owners in the South because they had
these extra votes of the slaves when they had these meetings.
They like if you're a slave, or you may have to go into a
meeting, you got two citizens off the street who don't own
slaves, which most people didn't. And they got there's a
husband and a husband I guess the wife didn't have the vote at
all, but there's the husband with his one vote and some slave
owner comes rolling in there was 500 votes Yeah. And and they and
it was the slave owners who turned the two who made the
Civil War happen by by ganging up on the on the normals and
over voting them down to will take on the north. Well, wait a
minute, we're the ones are going to have to fight I got one vote,
you got 500 You're not going to be fighting I am too bad. And it
was like that's how they did a lot of the Civil War Action
began because of the slaveholders who didn't really
definitely didn't want any any thing to change. And they didn't
mind having all these, you know, the kind of farmhands go out and
go to war against the North. It was it was lopsided and and
unfair, it probably a lot of people think that the Civil War
would have never happened if the voting didn't include the slave
votes. That's according to Marx, again, I have to look into it.
Okay. But back to the, to the idea of the Electoral College,
it, it will represent the popular vote and will not be
rigor jiggered or anything like that.
Generally,
yeah, it should. Now that thinking of Soros, even though
he didn't explain it very well, was the following. And there
were some people talking about this, it is hoped that certain
states, I mean, California is already in the bag. So there's a
lot of votes right there. There are certain states, if you can
carry these big popular states like Pennsylvania, those states
always talked about Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ohio,
Florida, and a couple others, if you can, and then then take into
account the states that are always going to be in the bag
for the Democrats, which includes California, you should
be able to win no matter what the vote the total is. Right?
You can take those few states, right. You shouldn't be there
should be in the bag. Yeah. And that's what they're planning.
And that's what Soros is talking about it
but I liked that at the end there. He said, I don't even
think Hillary is the most qualified. That's pretty
interesting. No, he
said she wisdom was cool. No,
I do not think she's most qualified.
No, that's not true. Really. He said, I do think she's the most
qualified.
I you know, it's one of those cognitive dissidence bias. There
you go. I'm I was so sure that he said I
don't think well, I could be wrong, too. But
let's, let's go to the end here. I'm gonna get sorry, it's taken
me a second to fast forward.
Somebody belching Here we go.
Has any chance of being elected?
You think Hillary Clinton is a done deal?
And I do think actually, she's the one who's most qualified.
Okay.
I guess you can hear do I do? I do think? There you go. That's,
that's my that's my programming. That's how it goes. Even though
I was the one that says she's uniquely qualified to run the
Empire. Yeah, he's a little different, a little different.
It's different now. Because there's worry out there. And my
goodness, when Donald Trump said, Hey, this is this election
is rigged. Everybody lost their crap over it? Well, he's setting
us up to say it's really another texture
is that guy's voice today.
I don't know why.
You're on a roll.
That guy is with me today. I told you this because I read all
these it websites, government, it websites and stuff and this
internal thing that I am just subscribed to. And I knew that
they were going to start looking into the cyber aspects of it. We
chuckled about that maybe two weeks ago. Well, it looks like
the mainstream media has finally caught on. And interestingly,
there's no outrage over you know, this now being propagated
as a meme coming from the government itself that we have
to be very worried about our election process. And of course,
you might as well just blame it on Russia. Oh,
Just hearing a lot of clips on this, I'll start NBC
as the nation prepares to vote 69 days from now NBC News has
learned that a top secret US Intelligence Group has already
been tasked with looking at Russia's election related
hacking. The White House gave the mission to a Cold War legacy
organization called the foreign denial and deception committee.
And today, the FBI Director suggested his agency is also on
the case.
Those kinds of things are something we take very, very
seriously and work very, very hard to understand, so that we
can equip the rest of our government with
options for how to deal with it. US officials
say after trying and failing to get into Arizona's online voter
registration system. Russian hackers penetrated a similar
system in Illinois copying but not changing or damaging a small
fraction of the data. But state election officials say it would
be much harder for any outsider to hack into the completely
separate individual devices that count the actual votes.
If it's not on the internet, and you're not voting via the
internet, the only way to hack into anything would be machine
by machine states that
use optical scanners still have the paper ballots as a backup.
Even so security experts warn that touchscreen systems with no
paper backups still in use are much more vulnerable, especially
to an insider hack. I think really it's negligence for a
Secretary of State anywhere in the country now, not to have a
paper trail for their votes not to have some backup system.
Because the research is too great in this cyber Wild West.
Also today, Democrats in Congress asked the FBI to look
into whether Russian hacks into the Democratic National
Committee were an attempt to help Donald Trump's campaign.
Tonight intelligence officials say they doubt the Russians are
trying to help Trump but the thinking is that Russia is
trying to undermine confidence in the US election system, even
if it can't actually manipulate the vote.
So there we have NBC brazenly blaming Russia. Interesting.
brazen it was in Russia.
Yeah, yeah, they do that I have actually the Clip of the Day.
I want to set it up. I'll give you a nice time. Just
let me just want to I just wanted to say something before
we get to my clips. The I am stunned. Since this was NBC,
that they wouldn't have emphasized that the Russians are
trying to get Trump elected because they've been doing that
until this report. I was actually surprised by the
conclusion that he drew. Yeah. So that's interesting.
I'll do ABC and the report on ABC. I mean, if I was running
ABC News, the I would call her into my office and I say, Don't
you know how to rhyme? Are you a complete moron?
Election officials are hoping that tomorrow goes off not only
without a hitch, but also without a hack.
Oh, no. If you're saying hitch, follow it up with glitch or a
hack
was bad television. She could have done so much better.
Of course, the most important part of our election process is
making sure the results are tamper proof and just one day
before our primary. We know the FBI has issued a bulletin
warning state election officials nationwide of the danger of
foreign hackers. This comes after a summertime security
breach concern here in Arizona we asked the Secretary of State
Michelle Reagan about it
we took our entire voter registration database offline so
that could be inspected by a cybersecurity team. So the best
of our knowledge and the best of their knowledge. No information
was either hacked or stolen or compromised from our database.
Reagan says after this concerning breach this summer,
they did upgrade the cybersecurity system and they
think that they have things locked down tight for primary.
Hey, have
you checked out the Norton Antivirus? Yeah, let me upgrade
real quick. Oh, there's some couple updates. All right, hold
on. I'm installing all right, it should the press release.
That's how I envision it all right. I'm gonna let you go. I
do if you want if you need it. I do have like a minute from Jay
Johnson himself, but you probably have that. You don't
have Joe Johnson. Oh, well, let's listen to John
Johnson who was the for a couple months now maybe just for
another six weeks he's still the head of the Quit case was to get
out of there. The nature
of cyber threats has evolved since 2002 since 2003. And so
by the way, this of course is edited take out all the lengthy
and or annoying pauses take out as well. No, leave some stuff
some it has sound a little natural.
I do think that we should carefully consider whether our
election system our election process is critical
infrastructure Like the financial sector, like the power
grid, the election process contributes to is a there's a
vital national interest in our election process. So I do think
we need to consider whether it should be considered by my
department and others critical infrastructure, which has
several implications, and it becomes very much part of our
focus. There are some short term long term things I think that we
should do to bolster the cybersecurity around the
election process. I'm considering communicating with
election officials across the country about best practices in
the short term. There are some best practices that exist and I
think we need to share those best practices with date McAfee
local election officials soon. And then I think that there are
probably longer term investments we need to make in in the
cybersecurity of our election process. I think that there are
various different points in the process that we have to be
concerned about I
think so killed the only thing I know,
by the way that we have to come up with worst Clip of the Day.
You just you would win the award. Right.
All right. Thank you. Hi, please someone make a jingle worst Clip
of the Day. We have been holding elections in our country for
200, almost 250 years. Well, I'm all for you know, the ink and
the finger. You know, this is a stick your finger in all right,
you voted already.
When they when we played the clip in the last show of Marty
Baron, the editor in chief of the was Miami Herald where they
got all the ballots in Florida because they have a lot to do
that and all the ballots are still there. And they took them
all and recounted them by hand. Because you could they could
Yeah. You can't do that on one of those big poke poke poke
machines. Well,
that is that is what people should be calling for. And of
course, we know from your informal testing and polls,
people are all in Oh, yeah, we should use the internet to vote
perfect. What a great use of the Internet. It is the opposite it
is the worst idea. I mean, look at the Podcast Awards. What
about him? We
had one you know,
I know but there's all with every year there's been issues
with fraud with voting fraud except this year of course when
we said this year this year, our our listeners they don't do
anything. They don't fraud they don't even vote.
Don't even vote that's
the we also forget to ask them so that makes that easy. All
right. So what do you have? Well,
well, first of all, let's go to our tea because they they're
following this closely because they they saying Hey, why are we
getting blamed for everything? Is it her again? No, no, that's
coming. Okay. First, let's start with this clip, which is blamed
the Russians for cyber, which is a general overview
that Russia has again taken center stage and a new cyber
warfare attack in the US this time, Moscow has been accused of
supporting hackers who targeted a number of Washington think
tanks. These allegations come as the FBI investigates another
cybersecurity scandal involving Russia and the US Democratic
Party. It is kind of mopping has the details.
The US cybersecurity firm known as CrowdStrike has come forward
and said that Russian hackers are responsible for cyber
attacks on a few prominent US foreign policy, think tanks.
Let's remind everybody that is the outfit that has that threat
map that has flashy things everywhere. Look, there's
incoming hacks every second, it's all seems to be coming from
Russia.
Now no evidence of Russian involvement is being provided.
And furthermore, they haven't even really named the think
tanks that were involved. They it's not really clear which of
these prominent foreign policy think tanks are the ones that
were allegedly cyber attacked or hacked or what exactly happened.
Now, let's remember that when the Democratic National
Committee was hacked, mainstream media also repeated the
allegation of Russian involvement.
The Clinton campaign is accusing Russia of hacking the DNC
20,000 emails, and tonight US authorities say Russian hackers
were behind it. The FBI is now investigating the hack that led
to the leak of Democratic National Committee emails.
There's evidence the Russian government was behind the DNC
hack. At least that's what some have said
a few years back when they're recited. Is that how they
edited? Is that
how RT edited that piece? That last one was the Russians, at
least that's what someone said. That is Chris Hayes. Do it his
journalistic best.
I'd love to just drop that in. I love that. That's really great.
Investigating
the hack that led to the leak of Democratic National Committee
emails. There's evidence the Russian government was behind
the DNC hack. At least that's what some have said.
Many years back when there were cyber attacks in the United
States. The media went into an uproar. But back then it wasn't
Russia that was blamed it was China, China unbar on American
power grids and the wealth of American manufacturing Chinese
cyber spies gained access to the designs for dozens of major US
weapons systems.
The Chinese we know who've been attacking us systems for a long
time. How
did they do that? And how do they keep the report and the
smiles?
Unlike a few years ago, now, whenever there is a hacking or
cyber attacking incident in the United States, it seems that
mainstream media doesn't blame it on the Chinese, but rather
blames it on the Russians, again, no evidence being
provided. But they are widely repeated and circulated in
mainstream media, things like
the legend. Cyber attacks are a good way of trying to keep up
the hate just today, you know, Russia is the target of it
tomorrow, it'll
be China, and then they'll go back to Russia.
So there nobody is there to prove anything, or to lay out
any facts. And there is no serious investigation. So you
can really say whatever you want. And if you say it often
enough, and you get enough people to say it, people tend to
take that as a fact, even though there may be no basis whatsoever
for it.
That's how it works.
You're doing it. Yeah, I don't think that's completely how it
works. I'll just throw this in before I go to the next clips on
this switch over from China to Russia. Yeah. It had a it was
specific to a certain date, the date Snowden was granted asylum.
Ah,
I want to ask you one thing, just briefly. Yeah, I was
listening to Trump about you know, we're gonna we'll
definitely put a stop on immigrants from Syria than from
Libya. And for every we will build safe havens for these
people. But we're basically going to, you know, hands off
for the Middle East. Does this not present a gigantic
opportunity for the Chinese to come into the Middle East who
are already coming in as we know, isn't it it? Would that
open up the Middle East to be you know, because the Chinese
that hey, look, you saw those guys. Nab. That's how much fun?
Did you have no fun, but we're gonna come here. We're gonna
build everything for you. It's gonna be great. And we're gonna
make Middle East great again.
There is as it's less if we go back in time. Maybe you could
play the go back in time sound.
Yes. Hold on. If you want to go back in time.
I want to go back into Yeah, I
need to. Going back to which years are we going back?
We'll go back to 20 13/23 2012 20.
Here we are. Hi, John.
Hey, now we've discussed the rubble lies theory of how what
we're doing in the Middle East, which is the rubble lies the
whole place completely. And because there's no real reason
for the West Clarke seven or anything else, unless the idea
is to realize it, and then rebuild it. Bring in our boys
Bechdel ring in the boys. We know how to rebuild. Yeah. And
we rebuild, make a ton of money rebuilding, there's more money
to be made rebuilding debt than anything else. Right, Adam?
Correct, John. And now we go back to the present.
Ladies and gentlemen, it
is time to rumble
back in 2016 Hi,
John. Now it seems to me listening back to us in the in
the past. We would it would be a mistake to now pull out let the
Chinese do all the rebuilding because they love building roads
and all the stuff that's going to need to be rebuilt well, so
we'll be screwing ourselves. There's
only there's only one guy who loves building more than the
Chinese. Trump L yeah.
Just sayin. All right, good.
All right,
figure that one out, unresolved, unresolved. All right.
Next. All right.
Now we go on to our friend. You can play
chicken. Chicken, Chicken, Chicken, Chicken. Chicken.
Chicken, Chicken.
For you. That's right, everybody. It's time for guy and
digicon Star reporter for Russia today. All right, what do we
got?
So our star reporter decided that they're beaten this up a
lot because it keeps you guys keep going as hackers and we
don't do anything. And so they say okay, let's bring in the
heavy guns here. And let's bring in Cheyenne who, who makes it a
couple of points of logic in these two little clips that have
to be listened to. But again, here we go. trying to you know,
I still blamed Snowden for all this. But here we go. The
Russians making set telling us that we're full of crap. Well,
if democracy has indeed been hacked, a number of major news
outlets claim it's not by social media or by search engine
manipulations. But in fact by Russians this time cyber attacks
have reportedly targeted electoral systems and at least
two American states and despite the fact there's almost no
evidence to suggest Russia's involvement, US officials name
anonymous FBI workers as sources in the media. The Russian hacker
trend in the US has become so popular that he and fashion
magazine glamour has picked up the latest story will the only
piece of actual FBI related information used in this latest
story is a flash memo from the Bureau urging election officials
to be aware of the hacking threat although it does not
mention Russia once. Here's our Washington correspondent. Again
she can.
FBI has so far given no information as to who did the
hacking. But that didn't stop major US news outlets from
coming up with smashing accusations. The Washington Post
cites a spokesman for Arizona Secretary of State who said FBI
investigators told them in June that Russians were behind the
hacking of voter databases. Again, the FBI declined to
comment on any of this. The Washington Post notes that and
then quickly moves on to bolster the speculation by saying that,
quote, The Arizona incident is the latest indication of Russian
interest in US elections and party operations. Other outlets
have written in a similar vein, accusing Russian hackers of
stealing 200,000 voter records in the state of Illinois, NBC
News provides no evidence of Russian involvement at all, but
cites an unnamed official who said, quote, This is the closest
we've come to tying a recent hack to the Russian government
and quote, wait a
minute, the closest that we've come means you've missed the
mark. When you say this is the closest I've ever been to being
correct, you're not correct. This is the closest I've ever
come to hitting the target. I didn't hit the target. Who was
that? Test? Lionel was fun. Now drop him in, in these reports.
His comic relief is good. It's very funny. So she goes on
though, and this is the part two of her, she goes on to bring up
a logical inconsistency, which, until she said it, I actually
didn't notice it myself. But this kind of really makes you
scratch your head.
Let's take a moment and look at what was hacked. From what's
reported. Those were voter registration databases of two
states, Arizona and Illinois. Voter records are apparently so
secret that a number of other states including crucial swing
states, put them out there for everyone to see. That's right in
the swing states of Ohio and Colorado, voter data databases
are accessible to everyone. All you need to do is go to Ohio
voters dot info or Colorado voters dot info to find
information on all registered voters in those states,
including their addresses and voter ID numbers. And you don't
need to be a Russian hacker to do that. Voter databases are
also publicly available in Connecticut, Delaware, Oklahoma,
and Rhode Island. Let's just for a moment indulge the theory that
Russia is somehow interested in voter databases of Arizona and
Illinois, the same outlets that are reporting this theory
reported that Russia hacked the computer systems of the
Democratic Party, the DNC, the fact is that and this is
something that any political campaign staffer will tell you.
The DNC has voted databases of all states and much, much more
they have information about who donated to campaigns, how much
and so on, if you say and believe that Russia hacked the
DNC, why would it need to separately hack Arizona's or
Illinois voter database? A would have had it by that? Hmm.
Well, that is that is interesting, because that's what
people are hardening their cybersecurity on. But I don't
think that's really what the problem is. Or the RIT or the
security risk.
Many people just call it making mailing lists, but I was
listening to this defend themselves and I realized that
there that the attack on the Russians, a hackers hacker has
to be what? Only NBC by bringing Richard Engel the foreign
correspondent into the United States. I gotta bring this guy
as a hitman. Yeah, he's gonna He's going to if you're gonna
bust up the rush, you're gonna give the Russians you know, a
bad name. Let's do it. Right let's make them murder.
And we remember angle was it Sochi? Although he wasn't in
Sochi, he was in Moscow coming the whole report is like look I
connected to the Wi Fi have now had been hacked already and was
a complete bull
crap. Oh, crap story was listen to this.
And he's an award winning award winning John. He has a P buddy
this guy.
Yeah, he's very famous. So here he is. If you're gonna make the
Russians out to be bad guys, let's make them murderers,
the whistleblower who exposed the Russian doping scandal that
got so much attention before the Olympics had been living in
secret in the United States until now. A hack exposed her
information, forcing her and her family to live like fugitives,
but who was after her. Richard Engel has the report.
Russian runner Yuliya Stepanova and her family are on the run.
They believe they're being hunted by the Russian
government.
Mr. If something happens to us, it is not an accident. It is not
accidental
if you suddenly end up murdered. So what you're talking about?
Yes, this is exactly what we have in mind you two
years ago, Yulia and her husband Batali, a former ag doping
officer exposed the widespread use of banned substances in
Russian sports on the German TV channel ARD. Dozens of Russian
athletes were excluded from international competitions. A
spokesman for President Vladimir Putin called Yulia a Judas.
straighter. That's not right.
I personally do believe that we are trying to do the right thing
for sports for for clean athletes.
We met the couple and their three year old son for a rare
interview
here in the US, but their secret location has just been exposed.
Julius online account at the World anti doping agency WADA
which keeps track of her address was hacked. There's no proof who
broke in but one main suspect because at the same time, other
water members were bombarded with emails containing malware.
Experts say it's the work of hackers with close ties to
Russian intelligence, the same ones, in fact, who hacked the
Democratic Party earlier this year
that we suspect is behind the DNC Ensta has a habit of using
certain infrastructure that we have seen used in this most
recent instance.
Russian officials approached by NBC News would not come at
Yulia, her husband and little Robert now live like fugitives.
They're staying with a friend until they can find a new place
to hide.
All right, turn up your speakers. Just turn them up
loud. Clinical you knew that
is doing a hit job. Wow. That's a pro
Russian murderers ladies and gentlemen. Wow, with
this little minor hacking stories, and he also slipped in
the DNC hacking. No, it
was fact Yeah,
Russians. Oh, my goodness. And that was NBC,
NBC. Hillary net. Wow.
Well, with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and
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remember the Sandy Hook episode where John had the Shrimpton
clip. stream to that was the best clip of the day ever. I
have never heard heard Adam lose it over a clip of the day like
that. If you could play the clip either now or at the end of the
show. It'd be amazing.
I don't know which clip it is.
The Shrimpton clip.
Shrimpton.
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Now you'll you'll painting a picture of
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approve of the killing of children. We've never given
British intelligence setting up a shooting like the Sandy Hook
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Germans five Mexican. Wow, yeah,
now I remember it. Holy crap. That last bit again, sorry. It
took a minute to get through it. But I didn't remember any of
this
British intelligence setting up A shooting like the Sandy Hook
shooting in the United States, which is getting set up by the
Germans five Mexico.
The Germans via Mexico. Hell yeah.
Nice.
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Wow, I forgot about that too. That's that was dynamite clip.
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very nice. Before we hit the break,
we were still kind of talking about election stuff and just
have a few small wrap
ups.
Starting with the meme identified, which is now
propagating, I knew it would happen. Do you remember what I
predicted on the previous program?
That we're all gonna die? Yeah, that's true.
There's no there there. We had a long conversation in blogland
thing Yeah, about the origins of that. And I said, Look, I'm
hearing this I'm gonna start taping it and I have my first
one. This is regarding the New York Times editorial and the
Clinton Foundation. It's not just any old presstitute Hussein
this it is Charles Krauthammer.
Look, the main defense of the cleanse from the beginning of
this email scandal more than a year ago, has always been
there's no there there. There's nothing here to just walk on by
it was classified information. There was nothing illegal
nothing irregular, etc. When you get the new There you
go. There's no there there. There's nothing to see here.
Nothing to see. Look at that. Love that guy.
So you predicted that this is going to become a meme? Yeah.
Yeah, all you got to do one of the top guys right there. I
got one. I got one mean, Meister. That's me, baby. And
the trap was set. And the the trap is now closing. I told you
this, this medical records thing there was it's a trap. And they
walked right into it. And now it's on this on the Clinton News
Network. Erin Burnett.
Donald Trump says he'll release his medical records if Hillary
Clinton releases hers. But it seems his running mate Mike
Pence is not as passionate as Trump is about this particular
issue.
The American people have a right to know that information. But
I'm less concerned about her bad health as I am about her bad
ideas.
It comes as more questions emerge about Donald Trump's own
health and his unconventional doctor. Dr. David Scheiner was
President Obama's doctor for more than 20 years. He wrote the
letter stating Obama was an excellent health when he was
running for president in 2008. And Dr. shiner. In your letter
you wrote President Obama was an excellent health when he was
running for the White House. Donald Trump's doctor has
written that he is in astonishingly excellent health.
Obviously, I know you perceive a big difference between how you
use the word excellent and how he used the word. Excellent.
Yes. And of course, I was referring to a man who was in
his mid 40s, who has solid muscle
solid muscle and does Obama look like solid muscle to you know
with those mom pants solid muscle mom pants for baseball?
Oh my goodness.
RSI was referring to a man who was in his mid 40s who was solid
muscle and who was in obviously a great condition. He was not 70
years old the oldest man to enter the White House should he
be elected?
Wasn't he also a chain smoker Obama at that point was he gray
solid at all about Obama's smoking habit was a chain smoker
at the time excellent
health so how can he you should at least say he needs to stop
smoking or needed to stop smoking because he's still
stopped smoking?
Not 70 years old, the oldest man to enter the White House should
he be elected?
I love this thing. You know, he they fear for Hillary Clinton.
You should not be saying stuff like that. You should never
frame it like the be the oldest man like if the White House
should he be elected googled
the oldest man to enter the White House should he be
elected? This is arguably one of the most important things Dr.
BORNSTEIN ever wrote. And he showed absolutely no concern for
the public to whom it was really meant to read. He says all the
lab results were positive. Well when a doctor says positive, it
means abnormal. If the results were negative,
I like that I think that was good but this is a well laid
track barely got
syphilis and gonorrhea. You're fighting Mr. Trump's pregnant
positive Hey, oh
so this is going to get fun. This will be the this I think
this will get played very busy though that to be three
independent doctors you watch you watch is going to be great.
In the meantime, other than another distraction of the week,
of course, but it's funny. It is funny I picked up I put a
prediction out there. I'm gonna bring this up red book
prediction that the national anthem is going to be replaced
hold
up before you get to that. Before you switch topics on me
like that. We know Dr. Drew got fired. Well, we don't really
know that but that's the presumption that coincidence of
time. We're just
gonna stick on this topic. Okay. Just for a second Dr. Drew
thing. Do I have a clip? Well, I have a clip. Okay, you play your
I have an
old clip, which was sent to me by one of our producers, of
course, is what producers do. This is from his podcast. You
know, he was he did a podcast, I think on the Adam Carolla
Podcast Network. I think he still does it there. And that's
pretty much what he'll be doing for a while. But he's always
welcome on our stream. I've already extended this
invitation. And he did a an analysis of Bill Clinton's
health, specifically, his alcoholism. And I think it would
be fun to listen
to this is once the 40s. I
know I'm giving you that one.
I'm sorry. Yeah, I
didn't know he had alcoholism. Well, neither did I. But
this is what drew is saying
is once the before he could respond to that kind of
treatment, though. He's got to get his alcoholism and addiction
under control. Because he would just find that psychoanalysis as
a means to continue his addictive behaviors. The one's
got to come first in my thinking, because, you know, you
know, that addicts and alcoholics are they don't engage
that piece. They reserve that piece to continue acting out.
Right. You know, I think he's got an addictive personality. I
think he's got a sex addiction. But I don't think he's addicted
to alcohol. He
has all the stigmata of alcohol is looking at his face. When
he's drinking. He gets parotid enlargement he gets rhinophyma
he gets he gets to agitations and rosacea. He has classical
stigmata, he was afraid that if he did drink, he could become an
I don't know, I don't know anybody that says that other
than alcoholics. I just there just is not another person that
has that problem. It's unless they are unless they have that
genetic.
It's almost like a, like a latent vulnerability that he's
that he's conscious of that he senses
that happens all the time. And now he's expressing it, and then
you see it in his face. And off we go. What do you think he
started drinking? I saw it late. It's sort of around the Monica
time, and maybe even a little bit for it, because you can
still watch his face look at the, you will actually see
people doing cartoons of him as WC Fields, because he developed
such classic and pronounced stigmata and they don't
understand it. And they don't they don't understand that's
what they're doing. But that's what they're doing. And like the
picture in the back of your book, that is what he is not
drinking that no go put that up against some of the later
pictures. And you will see, it's not just that he's gaining
weight. It has his classic stigmata.
When I visited Ireland, people did kind of confess to me that
he got sort of rip roaring drunk there. But you know, I've
noticed that when in Rome do as the Roman
just say.
Just saying. Ah, yeah,
so maybe he's been on the shitless for a while. If that's
if that's been out there for a couple of years.
Yeah, that's what I have to guess. Huh? Huh?
Well, it's what it looks like. If you look at the pictures and
when he's just there with his mouth. Kenny lit. He leaves his
mouth open. And he's just got his kind of Don't look in his
face. He mean he perks up when he's when that spotlight goes
on. But when he's not on him, he just doesn't know he's not
drinking now, I don't think he's drinking now. No, that's not
possible. Why we fall down? We see him walk.
He doesn't look doesn't look like a healthy man. I don't
think he should be drinking alcohol. Maybe he should be
speaking of which did you catch this? This note that was going
around. And I'm not quite sure how I'm gonna see who launched
this. Let me just see for a second when I read this US News.
Candidates death could delay or eliminate the presidential
election.
And I didn't see it.
Yeah, the presidential election could be delayed or scrapped
altogether if conspiracy theories become predictive and a
candidate dies or drops out before November 8. The perhaps
equally startling alternative. If there's enough time, small
groups of people hand picking a replacement pursuant to obscure
party rules. That there's nothing in the Constitution
which requires a popular election for the electors
serving in the Electoral College. According to a law
professor of University of Notre Dame, meaning the body that
officially elects presidents could convene without the
general public voting, there's your Electoral College, they
could convene without the general public
voting. Yes,
I understand that. That is true. Wow. Well, that could be a Soros
ploy.
It is up to each state legislature to decide how they
want to choose the state's electors. It may be a situation
in which the fact that we have an electoral college rather than
direct voting for presidential candidates edit may prove
helpful. According to this University. Professor of Notre
Dame,
he just started shooting at each other. Like a spy versus spy,
who knows. However, Congress will be up against a de facto
December deadline as the Constitutions 20th amendment
requires that congressional terms expire January 3 and
presidential terms on January 20. Although it's conceivable to
split legislative and presidential elections, they
generally happen at the same time. The possible last minute
replacement of a candidate attracts some cyclical coverage,
but this year, the scenario would play out after consistent
conjecture about the health of Democrat Hillary Clinton and
possible hidden agenda of Republican Donald Trump. He's
gonna kill her. That's what that's what they're saying here.
That's not nice. Now. Well,
the US well,
he might, you know, just in a kind of a generalized sense. He
might beat her badly in the database. And then the way you
say I killed it killed, it killed her. I could be maybe the
referring to that, because
I just thought it was interesting. That kind of popped
up.
Right. Back to my prediction.
Yeah, the flag that will enhance the anthem,
the anthem is done. Well done.
Okay. What evidence do you have? Yes, please,
I don't have any clips as a problem. But I do have some I'll
give you the reasons why I'm thinking this. And I wanted to
get it out there on Twitter real quick, because I wanted to get
out too, because because other people are starting to say the
same thing. And it the triggering mechanism is this
local quarterback we have here in San Francisco called Colin
Kaepernick,
yes, I've heard the story. And
he is refusing to stand for the national anthem. Because he
thinks it's me. Black Lives Matter. And he's just now I
said, I'm sick of it. Yeah. So he sits. And so that will make a
big stink about even though you can sit. I don't although you do
have you did read me that law. What was that law?
The law is you're supposed to stand face the flag or the
weather. If there's no flag where the music is playing, and
face the band, face the music. And we'll put band and put your
hand your right hand over your heart. If you're wearing a hat,
you will hold the hat in your right hand and drape it over
your left shoulder.
So this is a US Code. Yes, it is. And now everybody who's
analyzing so you can do whatever he wants freedom of speech. You
know, the yelling.
There's an actual law that says you have to stand and put your
hand over your heart. That's a lot. Yeah,
there's an actual law. So he's actually a law breaker. Yes.
Nobody. I have not heard one person mentioned this, which I
found kind of stunning. Just because you what you're hearing
is he has the right to do whatever he wants. Nope. itself
is a second amendment or something.
And the first and then the second. No, I've heard
no, I've heard Second Amendment really? Okay. Yeah, me guess You
take a shot at the flag. I'm not sure what that means. The other
one is, no. He's disrespecting the troops.
Well, this is the this is the one that I heard consistently,
is that all of a sudden the national anthem is equated with
the troops. That's bullshit. That's not true bullshit. Yeah,
but I hear that everywhere now. Good catch on that.
So now I'm not absolutely sure what is going to come of this
except One thing and one thing, only the national anthem is
going to be scrapped because it's become a center of
attention and the intercept wrote a nice article on that you
can look it up and one of their guys pointing out that the third
stanza the third part of this, that national anthem, nobody
ever plays our sayings is about killing slaves. Oh, okay. Right.
It's about killing slaves. Yeah, because it's about the War of
1812. And a lot of the slaves that's bad. went over to the
Canadian side. And there was like, there were the ones that
were there all you got to do. These crappies are slaves are
now shooting at us with the Canadian side of the war. The
British Canadian side. Yeah. And so it was about that about
killing them. And then and then not only killing them, but but
mocking them. So once this kind of goes, this becomes a meme
where people start bringing this up, and they will, even though
when something comes out in the intercept, that's kind of new.
The mainstream media refuses to say hate this operation. Like
you do. Yeah. They they sit on it for a real long time, then
they'll bring it up as though they just dreamed this idea up
themselves. Actually had Yeah, this is something that a lot of
journalists who maybe sometimes right a little ahead of the game
will find this happening to them. This happens to me
before before we go into that let's just talk about this for a
second. So I'm all for changing the national anthem. Okay, I
have no problem with it whatsoever. i There's no reason
that it just has to be the same tired as song. In fact, I'm
calling on Jay Z and Beyonce to make the new national anthem.
Right well, let's skip that shit up. Man. This is good idea
never gonna happen. What's gonna happen is going to be America
the Beautiful America the Beautiful in on us as a side
light and write, for example, they'll have they'll have the
national anthem at the beginning of some sporting event. And by
the way, you know, my feelings on playing the national anthem
and dragging out the flag on a sporting event, that commercial
sporting event. I don't like it, but they do it anyway. So
everyone stands up. They played the national anthem as though
this is those this baseball game is some sort of military
exercise, right? But okay, I mean, I will do it. I'll stand
and put my hand on my heart knowing that and then the Dow
and some baseball games, especially ones they do on
television, they'll sing America the Beautiful on the seventh
inning stretch when they're supposed to sing take me out to
the ballpark.
That is unAmerican what they're doing right there. That the
whole thing
is an American in my opinion. Now so they've been bringing out
in America the Beautiful every so often in America, they've
even gone rigid. It's kind of its race. Yes. Okay. Yeah, it's
a better song by far it's easier to sing. And there's a third
song which what's the other one is another one that's America
there's another
Bruce Springsteen Born in the USA No,
they're not going to put a rock tune in
especially not since his anti war anti Vietnam No, that may
not be a good
but there was another one there's a third song out think
of the name a bit later that is a possibility but America that
beautiful looks like it's being lined up okay to be could become
the next national anthem and I think it will be I think they're
sick of this old one Nobody can sing it it's not a good song.
It's I believe, is that I'm not mistaken is based on a British
drinking song. And America Beautiful. No, no, the national
anthem Star Spangled Banner really done and I thought that
the let's drink that the let's drink something like that. And I
could be wrong, but that's my recollection. But whatever is
the prediction stance, boom American beautiful coming in.
Probably before. You know I like it. Could happen soon. Could
Happen could take 10 years, but it's national anthem is dead.
Even though Jay Z and Beyonce probably will not be given the
opportunity to write the national anthem. I did want to
speak briefly about the MTV Video Music Awards.
Oh, yes, that's right. The the satanic Video Music Awards.
Yeah, well, let me tell you something.
That first of all, ratings were down
tremendously down and it's an end it's no surprise What a shit
show. I first I need to say something that irks me. When I
was working at MTV when I was a kid. There was the Video Music
Awards and I came in after the first couple of years and on the
set I remember where we were promoting it it was a must have
been the ADA to Video Music Awards. And yeah, we're just at
the VMAs because everywhere you know in scripts, everything that
you know instead of writing Video Music Awards, but VMA and
we were also have VMAs great the VMAs we had to go back and re
tape two full days worth of segments because some aihole at
the office decided no our brand is Video Music Awards. You must
say it and it's been its entirety. You cannot just say
VMAs then now of course it's just v and wow everywhere. I
know it's makes me mad especially those two social
media douchebags who We're hosting it. I don't know what
that was all about what happened to Eddie Murphy hosting. And,
you know, and Axl Rose punches. The, you know, someone in the
mouth from another band. I mean, that's the Video Music Awards.
VMAs.
Who were the I didn't see any of it. So who the hosts were like
just a couple lame bloggers?
Yeah, they were like YouTube guys or something. And I guess
there were a comedy team and they were behind the desk and
tweeting and making jokes about tweeting. It was
awkward to watch. They were making jokes about tweeting
the whole thing. And they took Rihanna, who started the show
off, and they they split up near her performances throughout the
entire show. So they didn't even end with a great performance
with Oh, Stan, stay tuned because Madonna is performing
even Rihanna died. stay around for that. No, but they
interspersed her. And they really, there was only one
satanic bit. I believe it was with Britney Spears. And it and
almost no one was singing either. That was kind of
irksome, like Rihanna was singing, but no one has
certainly not Britney Spears, but she doesn't have to because
she looks so cute. But the end it was upside down cross. And
they did a big total shot and everything so but it wasn't, it
was a horrible, horrible show ratings down 34% Despite the
fact that they broadcast that on VH. One and B et and some some
other cable outfit, including MTV. It was it was horribly
produced. It was just shit. And it ended with you know, like an
award. Hey, you never end with an award, you always end with a
great performance.
Right, you don't end with an award. It was an award only on
the Academy Awards, because they're always running short.
Yeah, they can't do that performance at
the end. It was it was pathetic. absolutely pathetic. But I
was expecting it an entertaining report. Not some horrible
gripe, well, there was I couldn't even pull a clip there
was a Kanye spoke for 20 minutes. Are you kidding me?
And they say let that guy on the stage at all. I got the mic. I'm
gonna keep it.
But you were talking about to Canada Navia. Earlier, and it
was interesting report to across my desk. As Canada, Canada Navia
has declared animals are now sentient beings.
And not just property, do they get the vote?
Well, if you look up the definition of a sentient being a
sentient being is a being that by virtue of its characteristics
has the capability of experiencing suffering both
physical and psychological levels, regardless of the
species to which it belongs. sentient animals are beings that
have a physical and psycho physiological, psychological
sensibility, which allows them in the same way as humans to
experience pain and pleasure. And it is certain that they all
naturally seek by all means available to them to avoid
painful experiences. And in the dictionary, it pretty much says
if you can think and act upon what you're thinking about, then
you're a sentient being, which is kind of saying you're equal
to humans. Pretty close. I don't think so. Well, what is now
going to happen in Canada. Navia is any type of animal abuse will
become a very serious offense. Should be Well, depends on what
you call animal abuse. I mean, I see this as a
Oh, you mean no, I think we're going to show another words. I
heard my neighbors say bad dog. Yes. Yeah. Dad dog. Yes. That
you're a bad dog. Exactly. Yeah, I can see that. Oh, that's you
can't say that to your dog. Yeah,
this is what's going to happen. Now that wouldn't be good. I
gotta tell you in this building. We're now we're an interesting
building. It's an older building in Austin, where smoke free but
pet friendly. And that's the George Carlin setup, I just
don't have the punch line. So we're smoke free and pet
friendly. But I do not understand why people you know,
these are just apartments. You got your dog in the apartment
all day. I mean, every day I go to the elevator has PIs there
from the day just couldn't wait anymore. Just let it go. And of
course people don't clean it up.
We have the gift pitch and you're pitching your elevators
in front of the elevator. Yeah, it's got and I know who to? I
just haven't seen Turner in the him the guy. But that's not the
Turner me. I'm reporting you to the authorities. I know the
police chief of Austin. Art will take care of you. Art Acevedo
will take care of you my friend. Yes he will. I just mean these.
The dog is controlling you. You have to go help the dog poop. Do
you have to pick it up with a piece of plastic?
I love I've had man hater now
what is this? What is this rant?
I'm not a dog hater. I I've had many dogs. I've had all kinds of
pets. I just don't understand if you're live. Everyone seems to
have a dog why? why it must be just transferring some lonely
life yeah lonely miss what a must must be but it's sad all of
it sad for these animals. So I'm not a hater just like these dogs
are locked up all day people come home and they now poop now
I'll clean it I agree they should just yeah you know you
shouldn't dead no it's not right now it's not it's so I always
wonder about people have dogs in Manhattan you see him walk into
the same thing. Austin Manhattan what difference does it make at
this? Well
not if you're living in the skyscraper
skyscraper Yeah, so luxurious here
right on
a wood burning stove and that thing in the UAE is sound like a
shack.
Well, it's leaks I got water leaking in. I got all kinds of
stuff happening here.
Well, let's talk a little bit about all the airplane
incidents.
Okay, you know, like, turbulence stuff.
No, no, well, that too. I only have like, three aspects of
this. I got the shutdown, which I thought you might find
suspicious. And we can play that clip. This is the FAA power
outage and
back here at home meanwhile, and to a power outage, forcing
ground stops at two busy airports had Florida flights in
the air when the radar suddenly went down. Here's ABCs David
Kerley
a complete ground stop at Miami's airport Fort Lauderdale
to after this startling radio call from controllers to pilots.
Everybody on his frequency is extreme constantly Ross for
communication. As always, we cannot see you
the controller lining up jets for landing in essence blinded
that left jetliners with nowhere to land. So many started
circling more than a dozen flights diverted to other
airports. The problem, a power outage took out the critical
radar and some communication systems. I
think we still have this vulnerability out there where we
have these facilities that have these redundant systems and
backup power supplies that seem to trip and they don't seem
to work. The FAA says another center took over the airspace,
the jets in the area, which could see each other on their
controls, all landed safely. It took 90 minutes to reboot the
systems. Even though the power outage only lasted five minutes,
more than 100 flights affected with delays of an hour or so.
And raising new questions about power systems. David
seems like a setup for cyber hardening.
And some Yeah. I wanted you to comment on that. Well, the
report already said it does not just one one radar, certainly
not in that area. You have multiple your hand that off from
multiple radar stations. And it's not like their coverage
area stops. It's like okay, I'm handing you off to Florida. Now
what airport was it again? I missed that in the beginning. Me
Miami Agha does it very busy airport. And so for a tower and
ground or tower, certainly an approach, I should say. It's,
you know, you they are blinded. This is true. But they're not
going to plan to not going to crash in the air because they
have T cash, which is an anti collision warning system. And
everyone can see each other's squawk their their radar code.
And if they're using ATSB, which most of them are, they can get a
lot of information on their systems. So they're not going to
crash into each other. But without a doubt, it makes it
more complicated for sequencing planes and for landing it will
take a lot longer because you can't just stack them up, you
know, boom, boom, boom, boom.
I thought the most interesting part of the report was a little
subtle mention of that you have a backup system that gets
tripped and doesn't work.
Yeah. Well, that is the core problem right there. It doesn't
work.
Yeah.
I found that very strange, very strange report. But especially
about the back of it. You pay big money for this stuff. To get
a one of those a backup system like that. You need to pay a lot
of money. Oh, yeah, this is work. Yeah, the money doesn't
work. You get your money back. What's the deal? All right. The
second part of this is, I thought another kind of a
discrepant story but it would be trying to message us something
I'm not sure what but this is united drunk pilots. One
Scotland tonight to United airline pilots arrested on
suspicion of being intoxicated before takeoff. They appeared
before a judge in Glasgow today. The pilots who are American were
taken into custody before their flight took off for new work on
Saturday with 141 people on board. ABCs David Kerley with
new details on who they are. And what happens to them next
to United pilots tonight are out on bail in Scotland facing
charges of showing up for a flight over the legal limit for
alcohol. They were arrested after arriving for the 9am
Saturday flight from Glasgow to Newark with 141 passengers. The
flight delayed for 10 hours.
Hmm. Okay,
I have thoughts. What's your second clip?
We'll play the second clip.
United says the men had been removed from service and their
flying duties. It was just a month ago at the same airport
that two pilots preparing to fly to Canada were also arrested for
being over the league. limit. Studies have shown
that pilots who binge drink get really drunk can have a hangover
effect that can last up to 1416 hours after they've stopped
drinking
pilots are held to a stricter standard just point oh for blood
alcohol level. And the FAA says there must be eight hours
between the last drink the bottle and the throttle. Pilot
is arrested for being over the legal limit about once a month.
While the FAA does administer random tests. The question
arises, how many pilots slip through and take the controls?
Tom,
I am really high. You know, this seemed like a propaganda piece
of some sort. Well,
there was a third United story, which I did not clip. This was
yet another in air turbulence. And they diverted to that they,
they were on their way they didn't divert, but they're on
the way to Heathrow from Houston or Dallas. And they landed in
Ireland, and I think 12 People were pretty badly injured. So it
was all united stories.
Well, there was a slew of Southwest stories like last week
in the southwest stories included one where the Southwest
plane engine just blew up.
Oh, yeah. Did you see the pictures of that? Those fuckers
were lucky. Yeah,
that blew up. That could have written a windy company that
Southwest has never lost a person
that could have that thing could have ripped the wing off. It
could have really punctured punctured the fuselage
and it was the other one where the Southwest plane is just
sitting there, and some drug crazed maniac jumped into one of
the cars on the tarmac and ram the plane.
Well, here's what I think it is. It's a ramp up, of course, to an
entertainment product. Are you ready? Okay, Sully, Tom Hanks in
thinking about Sully, but and and sell your seat because his
name is Sullivan. It associates immediately with an Irish drunk.
It's Selim, Selim Berg, isn't it? Yeah,
well, it's Ellenberg. Well, it's a reminder. soleus is a short
name for Sullivan. Usually you think alcohol immediately.
Irish booze. Gotcha.
So yeah, I think there's maybe this solid movie maybe that I
thought the same thing. But then I still haven't been able to
rationalize why we're having all these panics at the airport,
which we're taking my third set of clips.
Oh, yeah, this, this happened. Like the day I left that
evening. I was the first big panic at JFK. Because they
thought there was a shooting and all your slaves line up and
don't carry your bag and shut up and don't film it. And this has
happened twice. Now JFK. And
now this is at LAX. This is the guys Zorro and in fact, it turns
out that they can't find any reason for all this panic but
plays Zorro one let's
turn under the chaos at the Los Angeles airport. Word of shots
fired triggering panic and mass evacuation. 1000s of people
running for their lives, some out from security and went onto
the tarmac. Police officers rush in with their guns drawn as
other passengers duck and take cover. ABCs Cana Whitworth is at
LAX tonight with what brought that giant airport to a virtual
standstill.
Sunday night at LAX police first responding to reports of a man
dressed in black wearing a mask and carrying a sword. Officers
quickly surround the man ordering him to the ground but
at the next terminal reports of gunfire and a number of police
with guns drawn searching the airport while hundreds of
passengers raced outside. Some how security checkpoints panic
spreading quickly through social media. A ground stuff ordered
for all flights. All of a sudden there is a flood of people
saying there's a shooter ABCs mad government was at the
airport everywhere people having to
hoof it to try to get where they're going. Even out of this
airport pretty chaotic here and pretty
scary here after Josh Gad there as well with his family
tweeting, got my kids and ran for dear life. ABC security
consultant Steve Gomez says you can't take any chances.
You either run hide or you fight.
So if you can't run away, because you're in an area where
you're just closed off,
then you have to hide somewhere in the end. It was a false
alarm. The street performer in the Zorro costume released he
later spoke with ABC affiliate KBC concealing his identity to
police all around me.
I'm not even thinking about what I was wearing.
It's just the latest panic triggered by a false alarm. Two
weeks ago at JFK Airport passengers ran to the streets
after hearing loud bangs that many mistook for gunshot
Zorro
I'm finding this to be odd for boating of some some sort.
Well, there's another thought I have we all know 911 is also
right around the corner so he minds look at people all jacked
up,
don't you think? Maybe Maybe it but don't think just jacking for
no good reason is really a good use of the resources of the
agencies. That's playing. Second half of this clip I forgot what
it was
as Oro two authorities
and Canada joins us now from LAX Cana there were actually a few
people who were hurting the chaos
yeah Tom three people were taken to the hospital with minor
injuries after they were trampled. Trying to escape and
tonight please still don't know what those noises were that
prompted that initial 911 Call and authority saying this level
of panic just goes to show how on edge travelers are right now.
Tom it's a good point
okay. Cana Thank
you. Yeah, there's gotta be more to this. I agree that
something's up.
Something's up. I always listen to authorities, authorities,
they have authority.
But yeah, something's up. We have a bunch of crazy little
plane accidents, but the darn didn't kill anybody. Right. And
then we have the number of these panics at the airport where
people just running around like maniacs after we have been set
up already to see the Turkey Turkish facility to get, you
know, blowed up load up and all this other stuff to get
everybody on edge. I don't know what the point of it is. But
there's something it's these are minor stories. That could not if
they weren't covered, it wouldn't be a big deal. Oh, they
Zorro a guy who dresses in the Zorro costume panics, a bunch of
people in the LAX and somebody runs around, right? I mean, it's
not really a story, you have to cover it. If you didn't cover
you. Nobody would care.
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Well, Andrew asked your question to be Have you finished that
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that's why I think Trump comes along as an old timer for all
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Did you see this video of this? Girl in the lift? Car? No.
Oh no, no, yes, I didn't. I thought it was just the audio
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There's a ukulele let's be
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because he's not from, as you'll hear her say the continent of
Hawaii is is a great clip. And then, of course, he goes on to
explain, you know how you know, white men, even though the guy
says he's Asian, white men are the problem. They don't give a
crap. And it's really it's really insulting her deeply
offending her. And it's worth listening to this outrageous
crap because it is exactly the same thing that I witnessed here
on the streets of Austin, even the way it finishes.
And that was the perfect setup. Here we go.
About like, pillaging of the like, continent of Hawaii.
And oh, yes, she talks like that the continent of Hawaii. That's
a lot of pillaging of the like, continent of Hawaii. Okay, so
you want to get rid of that doll? Because that was like
really cute. Find that good?
Well I'll get rid of it. Because
I'm sorry. This may not be my edited version. Because that
makes no sense. I cut all of that stuff out. Crap. Oh, it's
just listened to.
I think obviously like us like a white male. You're like the
least like no. I'm just saying like that. Perhaps like you
might be the person who is least hurt in this situation. I'm a
passenger in your car. Like that doll is offensive to me. But you
don't want to take it down because you like found it good.
Well, I'm fine.
Yeah, no, I do it because it's actually deeply offensive. Now.
I do want you to take it down.
To saying you have to take it down. It's offensive. deeply
offensive, deeply offensive. Yes. You know,
okay, I'll tell you what, I tell you what, yeah.
Can I redeem myself Sunday,
we definitely have to listen to this thing, because it's great.
teaser for the next show, because we're running out of
time anyway.
I'm sorry, but I don't know what happened. I edited it all this
morning. And who knows? You probably just saved the wrong
file. It's no big deal. I will I will edit this and we'll have
it. It is unbelievable. Right. Very funny. Well, it's funny,
but it's also just incredibly sad. Well,
yeah, we'll get you to experience it firsthand. I guess
that's one of the reasons that you're just not cracking up. No,
I cracked up when I the first time I saw it. Oh, yeah. So
yeah, taking it down. It's a Fed deeply offensive a year wide so
you don't care? You got white privilege. You think
everything's okay. You don't know. You're just eight people.
It's
exactly it. Hey, Did Did you see the story about a lightning
strike killing more than 300 wild reindeer in Norway.
That sounds like bullcrap.
Thank you. Thank you. I mean, when you look at them, they're
not fried. They're not there's no they're not crusty, and I
don't know, the lightning hits, usually one person doesn't
usually hit or you know, or hit a whole bunch of like 300
Reindeer. I'm thinking directed energy weapon or something. Some
testing, it's got to be something like that. As a no
agenda service, we of course, you already know that you should
not go to France if you plan on wearing a headscarf or a
certainly not a burqini or even a burqa in certain places. The
reverse is interesting. Now, we have India's tourism Minister
sent out a release and said you know, you really should not wear
skirts when you come to visit India and you should also wear a
scarf. And this has caused in some for some reason, some
internal strife in India. And here's the report the
controversy is that you have said that tourists should not be
wearing skirts when they come to India. As someone who is ready
to promote tourism Do you think you should set such as
I take your words you just said deciding this is advisory. This
is a suggestion kind of model policing. When you can call it
as a model purchasing a firearm in this country and worldwide
advisories are being issued by the Minister is is is a
suggestion to our
guests is Justin suggestion. Just a suggestion to set
a fire in this country and worldwide advisories are being
issued by the ministries it is a suggestion to our guests that if
you follow this it will help us Please note there is a
difference between a directive and advisory that if you visit a
holy place, please take care of that if you go to Vergara you
may have to cover your head that is all
it's an advisory advisory because I know you're gonna you
might get beat up you might get raped if something bad might
happen. Yeah, and what is it with the with the polish in
Europe? What? Why are they always the ones that get beaten
up? Killed invaded?
What is what is that? I don't know. It's pretty consistent.
Yeah, what's happening now?
Well in London, this is from London.
Oh, that's because Okay, London situation. Yeah, the polls have
been the ones who took all the jobs, the babysitting, Nanny
jobs and the helper jobs and all these cheap jobs because they
can. And they can actually make a commute from Poland on the
high speed rail, once a week or daily in some cases, they're
just on the train all the time. And so still, it's filled with a
lot of Polish, who I guess that Brits don't like them.
But the brother of a Polish man who was battered to death
outside of takeaway claimed yesterday. He was attacked by a
dozen teenagers because they heard him speaking in his mother
tongue. This is Eric, Josh Rick who died of henges head injuries
after he and to Polish friends were beaten unconscious in what
police believe maybe a hate crime. His brother radish said
the police have told us he was attacked. Because they heard him
and his friends speaking the Polish language. If we if we
just completely gone barking mad. It really is. It's somebody
said after the Italian police Sastra statement. I said you
know them everybody complained to you and you don't respond.
This is this. This this gang of kids gangs of kids. Gangs of
kids are telling batil you can't be can't be sure sort of far
away from us or being armed on the streets. Can
it really is I really like Texas, come on down. We've got
no problems with gangs in the streets. Poor Poles had been in
in Britain for 40 years. The Poles have. Yeah. And now
they're getting blamed again. Why did they always get blamed?
I don't understand it.
Because I don't have no idea. This I do not know. All I know
is a really good Polish Deli in San Francisco. Frequent.
Now you asked me to put in the show notes. Something about the
alt right as if something you wanted to bring up about that. I
have a little routine to read about them that we need to
discuss. But it's something we put off till Sunday, because I'd
rather get these clips out of the way. And I got two of them
left.
All right, you are you're on deck toe to close the show.
First of all, let's well then let's start with Okay, let's
start with this one, then this is the Israel if we went back in
time, which we're not going to do again, okay. We would talk
about how the the early theories about ISIL ISIS dash were that
it was started by the Mossad. Yeah. And, and the CIA. Yes.
They got the thing going. And it was for a lot of various
reasons. A lot of them not explicable, and they have lost
control of the old organization. Don't know, but we did notice
one thing that they're always you know, they want to kill a
bunch of people in their be heading and they're doing all
this stuff. And there's a lot of fun organizations that are
producing bullcrap form and they've never said anything
Israel must go. Right? They've never said, Death to the Jews.
It's very odd that we have not seen any of that.
Yes, we have not seen any of that. We still hear it
occasionally from Iran, and we hear it. Still at the mosques,
at least the mosques that are coming out of Saudi Arabia, they
still have the same propaganda we hear from the Palestinians,
but we have not heard it from these guys. So. So that led us
to believe that something's screwy about that. Well, now it
gets even more complicated when one of the big think tanks in
Israel decides to write a report saying, hey, you know, let's
don't really leave these dashed guys very actually somewhat
useful to us. We don't really want to destroy them, I think
aiming largely at Trump. And let's play this clip. Now.
There's
no need for the West to destroy Islamic State at least that's
according to an Israeli think tank, the director of the Visa
Center, which does work for the Israeli government, and also
NATO claims that the Islamist terrorists can serve a strategic
purpose for Western interests in the region. Professor Ephraim
Inbar says ISIL could play a role in undermining Iran,
Hezbollah, Syria and Russia. The think tanks director also claims
that the continued existence of the terrorist group helps quote
bad guys to kill bad guys and that the West should allow ISIL
to exist despite its brutality. Well, my colleague, you know,
needing union O'Neill, talk to Professor in Barr about his
controversial proposal.
Stability is something that you want, if it serves your
purposes, the main source for instability and the main danger
to peace in the Middle East, is the Iran the worst country that
is committed to genocidal goal has to be stopped, and ISIS is
performing this function. ISIS is fighting Iran in
boxes, would you bring it to Iran? Iran is not beheading and
raping eight and nine year old girls is that this is what ISIL
is doing? No in the here and no, this is the reality on the
ground there. There are people getting displaced people getting
killed people getting raped. This is the aspect that we have.
I suggest to you to be more careful in assessing the human
rights policy of Iran.
Why does the guy who sounds like a Nazi say that
I suggest you'd be more cancels but that's nothing that human
rights Yes. Now take a shower, please people
getting killed people getting raped. This is the aspect that
we have.
I suggest to you to be more careful in assessing the human
rights policy of Iran. Iran is on the list of the united
states. States reporting to Iran is causing trouble in in the
Saudi Peninsula, they are supporting a brutal regime of
Assad.
Okay, so what he's what I extrapolate from this is, as we
already know, ISIS is pretty much the Turks and the Saudis.
And it would be kind of good for them to beat back Iraq, Iran and
the Russians.
Yeah, wow. It'd be good for our interest or somebody's in Yeah,
well, yeah. Everybody has this kind of report. It is not the
kind of report you make public. You may think this you may make
the report you might do the report, but you don't come out
and publicly bring this report out even if that's what you
believe.
And when did this air RT
course you're not going to get this
that's why that's why it's out there. Of course,
here the report on Democracy Now even though I may have just
missed that. And my last little clip here is the is another
report. I think this does another RT I did a lot of RT
this week. And this was I thought was good. It was kind of
interesting, but we I think we've known this since the the
big scandal or Facebook's robots, you know making getting
mega right and Meg Ryan Kelly.
Let's see Meg Whitman, Meg Ryan made a lot of make. Yeah, she's
the technology officer of our country. Megan, Megan Ryan
Kelly.
So Megan Kelly is supposedly fired from Fox News. I don't
have too many does our clips available I just explained it.
And that turned out that that since Facebook
had his robots
replaced humans insofar as trending is concerned. They they
came with his bogus story which was made up somebody put it as
slipped into the system. Nobody knows. Some people are
theorizing that Megyn Kelly is going to be fired. Oh, and this
is just a cover up. By the way. Just story because it wasn't the
timing was wrong and somehow the Facebook people got a hold of
it. And the robot stupidly published it. Oh, do you? Are
you in on this? I don't know anything about it and I don't
think she is getting Friday because I was I didn't notice
that Shannon Bream took her place last night. Now. Megan
Kelly, I've never been a huge fan of hers. And I you know, she
has a kind of a harsh look. For a beauty. She's a beautiful
woman. But this is,
this is Tinos complaint as well. She said why did you ever she
cut her hair said he has no femininity left?
None.
I actually like your new hairdo. But she does have she is kind of
she's more like a dominatrix than she is like some you know,
bathing beauty from Miss America contest. But she's beautiful,
technically in every
way. Really is high marks high marks on the technical scale.
Yeah, very high marks dynamite.
What would you give her? What would you give her up on this
one to 10?
I'd give her a nine five easy. Whoa. All right, but she has and
she I think she handles her show. Well, she's a little
snide. She's got you know, not only think he has a great sense
of humor, she's got a good sense of humor. She reads well.
She's a pro. She's a pro. She's
super pro and she interacts well. Shannon Bream on the other
hand, who doesn't hold a candle to Kelly insofar as her presence
is concerned is really a gorgeous girl. She's She's a
beautiful blonde classic. She's all these women are older than
you think. By the way, all of them. I think bream is and
they're all lawyers. And they're all lawyers are all very
intelligent. And bream is I think, prettier than she may be
the prettiest girl on the and we're talking from his
perspective of producers Hold
on a second. Hold on. What's her? What's her full name?
Bream. What's her first Jan and Shannon Bream. Okay, Shannon
Bream is really a pretty girl and she does Kelly shows. Yes.
Now I've seen
her I agree but if you and I were running the show we would
change her makeup. I do not like her makeup but I think it it
makes her look plastic. She should look a little more
realistic. She does. Beauty Yes. Yeah. And you know that makeup
they do all the news now they spray it on with an actual spray
gun. Yeah, they got the sprayer Yeah, that makes you look
inhumane
Yeah, they should probably take a different direction whatever.
I think I'm just talking as a producer here
No I'm saying yes I agree with that. But I'm looking at her in
terms of Is she prettier and less pretty than Megan she's I
think technically prettier in a kind of a Barbie like way she's
very attractive. And she's more pleasant she she drops down kind
of meanness
she's more feminine too. Yeah, she just has more femininity in
her look
right and she does take she does little visual that she does Oh
as your eyebrows go up and she does all these things you know
that you can't do if you get if you're all botulism shot up
Botox which so I like her but she doesn't have the edge make
it has some sort of a screwy edge to her that is really works
on television. And it just makes her Louis she's not as soft. A
bit of bream is too soft. But I think they're they're I think
this rumor may actually have some legs. Because Megan came
out with the you know, I think yeah, ales tried to grab me or
whatever. She came out against a network and I don't think that
okay, Ailes is out. Oh, I
know. What's it I know where she's going? is obvious.
She's going to Trump's new television Empire when he loses
the election.
Yes, that's where she's going. I don't know where she could go.
If they got rid of her. I mean, she has a good contract, she
probably get some money just to go nowhere. She can't work
local. She's not a local type. She's way too extreme looking.
She could go to CNN, but maybe, because nobody knows what her
politics really are.
Maybe it's time for network. Maybe she's going network big
time. You
know, she's not network style. I don't see one of the network's
being able to deal with
her. All right, what's the clip? Okay,
so this clip I don't know how I got off on this tangent.
But we're talking about girls.
Talking about girl we're going to show it's a theme thing to
talk about girl. This is hilar about Hillary. And this is if
you went to Google to Google Hillary and I think what we're
how you got off to Tanzania was the kind of rumors and gossip
about the corruption of the media and corruption of Facebook
and how the Megan thing may or may not be true, but it ran it
anyway. And now they apologize. But Facebook is in the can for
Hillary. Google's in the can for Hillary I don't have it on the
on the leaner list. But it's a fact.
Oh, we should you should add you should add that to the leaner
list. Really? I'm
going to grant you mentioned but the leaner will support the
leaner report leaner report. Here's For years to Hillary, if
you tried to find her on Google about her health problem, look
what happens when I type Hillary Clinton's health into Google.
According to their auto search feature, it's not an issue. Yet
what happens in other search engines? Now we asked Google why
this was and they told us that their auto search feature is
specifically edited to avoid disparaging and offensive
content wasn't exactly clear what's considered disparaging or
offensive about Hillary Clinton's health. Though it is
interesting to note that Eric Schmidt, one of the former CEOs
of Google and a top stockholder in the corporation is also a
prominent supporter of Hillary Clinton's campaign. Secretary
Clinton. Welcome back to Google. Great to be here, Eric, thank
you.
grown a little bit since I've been here last just a little
while you're talking about my Wait.
When she was Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton was calling out
foreign governments for trying to control cyberspace, they've
expunged words, names and phrases from search engine
results are countries that restrict free access to
information risk walling themselves off from the progress
of the next century. But even in the land of the free details
continue to emerge, showing that the way information is made
accessible on the internet is not random, but intentionally
manipulated. Whether it's the news curators who decide what
gets trending on Facebook, or big corporations, hiring teams
of people to edit Wikipedia, the internet isn't a free market of
ideas, where everything gets an equal shot at going viral. This
is influencing us elections, influencing who's going to run
the country. So I think there has to be a little bit more
transparency and people and realizing and understanding the
power that Google, Twitter, Facebook, all these very
powerful online entities have in controlling information flow,
they might actually have some political leanings that are
making their information flow online biased, if the
influential people on the internet are all lining up
behind one person and controlling what information we
receive. Does this mean that democracy has for the lack of a
better term been hacked?
Yeah, in a way, in a way it has but no more or less than news or
newspapers or is to be expected? Well, they
gotta get a consolidated effort by all these people. When I
didn't want to do well done. It's not working as well as
they'd like.
I just tried to Donald Trump is just saying what so here's what
the end the year that's only worked on the suggestions
obviously, so. He so I just Donald Trump is that was my and
I stopped there. Donald Trump Israel. Donald Trump is awesome.
Donald Trump is going to win Donald Trump issue statement.
Donald Trump is not a conservative. So those are the
top ones now. Let's try
Hillary Clinton. Israel's
is toast is awesome. And is a robot
supposed to be they got it right out there wasn't supposed to be
any
disparaging stuff in there. Yeah. Which of course,
maybe robots have a good complement to other robots.
Maybe it's
maybe it's not it's the truth. No balls it was
suppose it's it's not supposed to be disparaging. If it's true.
How can it be disparaging? I don't think Oh, nice one. All
right. Well, you never know that we didn't have an explosion.
It's Pet Space X today. I don't think anyone was hurt. But it is
a show day. You never know. It always comes in threes. Kind of
an explosion. Was that?
Just an explosion? Yeah, something exploded.
Apparently no one was Oh, no rockets. And well, yeah, not
always anything on the calendar, I think Oh, well. My birthday,
of course coming up. But you will talk about that in the
newsletter on Saturday. Yeah. 52
Well, you'll, you can say it was 50
last time now. 52 years since you were 50. Yeah, you made such
a stink about
it. I did. Yeah. I'm 50. Yeah. all downhill from here, baby.
That's what you said.
Yeah. Look at you. Coming to you from the skyscraper here in
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what happens in somebody's mind or how dark their heart must be?
Paranoid fringe now calls itself right right. Right the paranoid
fringe now calls itself all right. All right. Dismissed.
Dismissed. The paranoid fringe now calls itself right. Even it
is dismissed because the paranoid fringe now calls itself
right. It is dismissed just as disgusting what happens in
somebody's mind or how dark their heart must be? So I made a
mistake that happens it proves I'm human
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turned a lot of social media into anti social media. anti
social media Torchwood thing mobs and sharks in a feeding
frenzy. anti social media nasty anonymous comments are a
significant part of a much bigger problem. anti social
media in this election cycle has turned a lot of social media
into anti social media. anti social media torch whistling
mobs and sharks in a feeding frenzy. anti social media nasty
anonymous comments are a significant part of a much
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