Let's just stop there for a second. Is that not the
definition of bigotry? Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday
June 26 2016. And time once again for your gizmo nation
media assassination episode 837
This is no agenda calling
CQ filmmakers one Bravo Sierra Tango X ray and rolling Q RP as
we're broadcasting live from the drone Star State in the woods in
Region six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm calling for a callback
sake. Bobbin buzzkill
collects it collects the data you throw me off I was good.
collected. Oh, coming to you from the air stream of
consciousness once again, John.
Yes, you're out in the woods and you send you tweeted a picture
of your fabulous a well organized rig. Yes, I did. It
looked like a what they call a Cluj.
Oh, no, that's that's the small batch studio. That's a podcast
device. That's something else. Oh, yeah. That's something else
I'm working on. Right. Now. It's a it's been fantastic. Wild day
Field Day, Baby. When all the ham radio operators go out into
the field and try to make contacts.
If that's what you were doing, then it's the real reason you
went out there.
Yeah, that's the real reason. Also, I needed to just get away.
Just get away. Sure. For a CQ fest.
Yeah,
this is a nice one, because this is the sh t f. Exercise. Okay,
no shit hits the fan. So the idea is you go out with minimal
stuff, battery power, and you try to make as many contacts as
possible. So I'm a I really liked the basic. So I'm just
five watts, five watts. And I had all these different antennas
to try out portable antennas. I had a magnetic loop, I've got an
end fed zap. And then of course, the one that always works is 63
feet of wire hung in the tree. It's unbelievable. I know you're
impressed. I know.
So wait, how many feet
63 feet on the antenna side and another about 30 feet 30 feet as
the is tuned. But no, it's cut to a certain length. And then
you have a tuner in this rig that I have, and then it'll turn
it'll correct the impedance. Okay, and it's, it's fantastic.
I love HF. I have no idea how it'll work wanted to work, but
sometimes it just works.
Well, that's like these antennas that they've come out with that.
I have an antenna on my roof for a day to pick up the VHF signals
for HDTV. Yeah, actually, most of our new HF bands are set for
one. Yeah. And so it's on the roof. It's huge. And it gets
everything. Yeah, but that's that's all line of sight. Yeah,
that's all line of sight. So I have a there's these little
freaky little flat things that are like I don't know if
there's, if it's what the technology is inside, but it's
there's an antenna in there, but it's just a cheesy as little 10
but piece of crap. Yeah, flat. Yeah, flat piece of plastic.
Yeah, for those frequencies. You don't need much. Very small,
very small, but
I have the metal ones I had in fact, I had a in the house.
Before I put stuff on the roof. I had the antenna in the house,
the old fashioned one. And these are called a lot of these are
fractal antennas.
Probably a quad quad array or something of that sort
in the hot tub, the old one, but this little plastic thing, which
is 10 bucks. It's a fractal antennas very small, and it's
flat, and it's plastic. And I guess there's some wire inside,
like maybe a lot who knows it gets better reception than
anything that's going through five walls. I know
the craziest antennas work my magnetic loop antenna. You know
which it's just a small loop. You sit on the chair and you
tune it with your right hand while you're doing something
else with your left. And it can work very well but the
conditions weren't so good. Until I did just flung the wire
up there. And even this morning, I got up at 630 IBL. Florida,
Virginia, New York, New Jersey has a lot of fun. And thank you
so much for getting me into this fabulous hobby John C. Dvorak.
I'm sorry, no, no,
not at all. Not at all. I'm very happy. It makes me feel
that you've gone further than anyone else that I've turned on
to it makes me feel very like it. But you're a tinkerer.
Gentlemen Tonight, Tinker I am.
Alright, so let's get started. Yes, good idea.
I will point out one thing something could happen during
this broadcast of all the gear I had. Then I had my checklist.
Somehow the clamp for the mic boom didn't make it
good make it in tact or you just forgot to pack it
didn't get packed. At least I have not been able to find it.
So this morning after the show Yeah, but yeah, so I have the
boom but you can't you know, how are you going to make the boom
in the mic work? So I had a tripod and a gaffer tape and it
would fall falls down you'll know.
I'm sure we will. I think we should start off with since
we're gonna be doing live we pre announced the show's going to be
mostly about the Brexit Yeah, and I want to start off with the
clip official vote so and get off to the to a good start.
As Chief accounting officer for the referendum on the UK
membership of the European Union held on the 23rd of June 2016. I
hereby give notice that I have certified the following the
total number of ballot papers counted was 33,577,342 the total
number of votes cast in favor of remain was 16,141,241. The total
number of votes cast in favor of leaf was 17,410,742. The number
of ballots papers reject
33 love it's nothing like a magic number no magic number.
And make note that that clip was from sky from England. The same
exact clip was played on CNN but they cut off the cheering
well CNN had a bone to pick let me slip in Christiana Amanpour
that might this might get us started quickie unfortunate
thing,
Anderson and this is where it gets really tricky, and really
ugly. A lot of these leave movements are led by the hard
right. Very very xenophobic, anti immigrant, very populous
nationalist white identity politics. They are the leaders
who are
that was quite a sentence she rolled out there.
Like just horrible, horrible people who did this horrible
people.
You know, the funny thing is, that was a theme on most of
these shows because they're run by the elites. Yes. And I not to
go into this backwards. But I as I think about it, because I'm
gonna I have some theses one of them is that I believe that the
European Union is world war three. In fact, it was designed
to be a slow motion version of World War Three and the Germans
were going to take over the place. And that was the whole
scheme. The Brits have finally come to grips with it realizing
this was going on with these crazy that it was, I think most
of there was a good variety of reasons people voted. For
example, over half of the Sikhs in the country voted for Brexit.
Right In fact, you find any Nigerians that came out of what
the British colonies voted for Brexit they do they do not give
you a very good ethnic breakdown on the way the vote went they
did a whole thing was ageism young versus old yeah they don't
they don't do not talk anything yeah no
way but also uneducated. You said yeah, no.
On educated on entity, right, it was as though they're in other
words, I guess Faraj and Boris Johnson and the 40% of the
Tories are all uneducated I don't know what this yeah was
uneducated stupid. It was the idea was that the stupid people
voted to leave
that's I think that is the best demarcation is smart people said
stay stupid people said leave that's pretty much all I heard.
Yeah, I heard that a lot. And I was listening
because I'm gonna have my regular channels here, which is
part of the point but I was listening to BBC World Service
radio pretty much all the time so I got a really good a really
good feel for the pulse there. According to the Beeb.
i The beam would have one approach. I was listening to
LBC. Yeah. And a couple of other things at sky. And also, I found
that on American channels during the moments that this was going
on, I witnessed at witnesses changed because it started off
with the up there last, the we're going to leave, we're not
going to leave and 52 to 48 was the thing. And they said that
and that's when Farage came out and said, Oh, wow, it's too bad.
But we lost. Yeah. And then as the vote started actually coming
in more than nothing, it became very apparent that it was going
to be the other way. And it was it was actually 5248. The other
way. Sky News had some professor on who does nothing but these
sorts of analysis. And he called it way before anybody else. He
says, Unless he's inventing, he would this guy came on and he
called 5248. Very early, and then it finally came to be that,
and I thought sky had absolutely the best coverage of the whole
thing, and that it would follow that in the United States. The
best coverage turned out to be on Fox Business.
Yeah. What's the guy's name? Barney is his name, I think.
But Barney was one of them. He came later. Yeah. In fact, I
have a couple of clips. He was he's the British guy on Fox
Business, who just seems I don't know. Maybe it's me, but he just
seems like kind of like a dummy. I saw.
He had some some member of European Parliament on it. This
was just before I was leaving, so I didn't get a clip of it.
And the guy was kind of timid. And Barney was just going, Wait
a minute. Are you the guy who's always yelling and screaming
welcome me not doing that on my show. Come on. Whitney. The
producer said that you wouldn't be really excitable and there
was the guy was not having it.
Be the way that but yeah, Stuart
Varney, Stuart varney. Thanks
for Barney, Barney. Let's play. This is one of the best ones
here off of Fox. And this is got a bunch of interesting insights
that just kind of trigger a lot of good thinking. This is the
best bitches session, Fox, teakettle right now.
I think that this is a rebuke to President Obama. Liz,
let's pick. Is it a plus for Donald Trump
actually going back to the Obama thing when he went to England
and made those comments and sort of weighed in what most people
really didn't think that was appropriate for him to be
encouraging the English to vote in to stay in the EU.
Interestingly, the polling shifted right then, after his
comments, to remain, I mean, to stick to exit, excuse me. So
whatever impact he had was exactly the opposite of what he
had set out to do. And maybe the English also thought it was a
bit overreaching of President Obama to tell them what they
should be doing. As far as Donald Trump is concerned. Look,
he's a described you know, anti establishment populist character
who is now being derided by every establishment elite in the
in the country
who was the speaking drum.
This is a woman from the Financial Times, Liz, something
rather good, good
and you think she's a millennial, I think sounds like
she might be. If she's not, she's on the cusp. Peter's
point. I think there is an analogy here for absolutely for
sure. But there's a parallel isn't totally. And if Donald
Trump were smart, going forward in the campaign, he would talk
about bureaucracy and taking the power back to the people local
authority states rights
issue. Wow, does she watch anything he says? It's just like
that are
really not my goodness,
because Americans hate the federal government. I'm sorry,
that's an overstatement. But the fact is, they do feel like our
faceless bureaucrats in Washington have you served a
great deal of the power that their local authorities
traditionally and typically have had? Yeah, this suffocating
pillow of regulations is what people don't like and in the
years European Zone, I made sure they had rules like children
under a couldn't blow up balloons. They had rules on the
powers of vacuum cleaners. There's a rule cycling tea bags
That's exactly right. Actually, hyper regulation made people
crazy, I think and and rightly so. And the thing that they did
that was over the top and made the difference that came out and
banned electric tea kettles, every English family has like
Yes, she is she actually claiming that the EU regulations
on electric tea kettles really influenced the British in this
well if you listen to enough of the British bitching and moaning
about some of these regulations yes I think that she has a point
to to appoint now this is bullshit by the way the tea
kettle thing the tea kettle thing a turned out to be the EU
was about to regulate tea kettle so you couldn't really buy one
of these electric tea kills them all over England I have them
yeah and they're you know the only way to avoid the best way
to boil water saying make some quick tea with a with a bag
and just pretty much create a short circuit with electricity
in the water
crudely lease put, yeah, it got what happened was a memo got out
that said that they were going to die she I think she's got
this wrong and I wouldn't be wrong to but because it's hard
to dig up a lot of these regulations that the EU kept
pounding in the England, but they seem to be directed at the
British almost to get them to quit. But they dumb mo got out
saying that they were going to regulate tea kettles and
toasters. Yeah, specifically the British style of toaster like a
dual lit, which is electricity hog, because there are some that
some due to global warming, so they're going to make these
things illegal. But then they pulled back on the
sciences and sorry, was my elbow. Sorry,
they pulled back, you hit the right button. They pulled back
at the last minute because they were afraid it would affect the
Brexit vote. But that member pulling back got out. So it was
as if we don't vote Brexit, take our teapots away, just listen to
the rest of it was a minor thing. But there was a lot of if
you listen to Skye, well, I'd
like to listen to the rest of her. Yeah, okay.
And electric tea kettles, every English family has, like, Yes,
this is a new rule that has been on the shelf for months. It's
all the small appliances, you know, in the energy efficiency,
a climate issue, right? So they they ban toasters of the kind
that the English use and tea kettles, people went crazy. What
exactly I do
is a powerful lesson here. And that was if you look at the
original formation of the EU, was called the EEC and the
common market, it was a tranquilizer on the Game of
Thrones that Europe had been. And it really was a commercial
entity. It was a free trade zone. Exactly. And then it
morphed and evolved over time and became sort of a wolf in
sheep's clothing. It was a surreptitious political angle
and the politics gotten more and more to the forefront. And as
that happened, something was going to break. It became a
triumph of micro regulation, and microman. And
lobbyists plying the hallways of the European Commission, because
let's face it, it's also the Where have we seen an Amazon?
Have we seen a Google? Have we seen a Microsoft come at you,
because they're all about harmonization.
It's the what she's talking about there something we discuss
what you ran into some of the research for today's show was
the Council of Europe, which has a great EU official sounding
name, but the Council of Europe is not part of the European
Union governance. It's a lobbying group. And that
everybody's in that. And those guys suggest and recommend to
the commission, who by secret ballot, create or proposed ball
laws. And then that I learned so much about the EU, which I
actually didn't exactly know. And one thing you would ask
previously, I stumbled across the yellow card. Remember, we
were joking about it? Did they make it just like soccer? Yeah,
they do. Okay, so they have a red card too. So yeah, well,
yes. So you have the orange card as well. So you have the Council
of Europe, and they're the lobbying group. And they'll
wobble the lobby, the Commission commission who are unelected,
and you know, it's a small group, and they have secret
votes proposing laws. If the laws seem to breach sovereignty,
then a country can issue a yellow card, if there's enough
yellow cards, it becomes an orange card, the orange card
tells the commission that they have to revisit, not changed,
not rejected, but they have to revisit, and then there is a red
card. But that doesn't happen very often. Because quite
honestly, it's political suicide. So it's a very strange
way of of governing. And of course, you know,
because non democratic, it's a new form of government. It's a
new world order. This new world orders Oh, I think it's all a
practice run, amount of damage and hope it would go better than
this with having these guys walk out one of the big one of the
big ones and leave, but it was a is largely by it was largely
botched. And I think it's, you know, I don't know, if they're
going to recover. Most people think it's the beginning of the
end. I mean, I'm not absolutely convinced of that. But let's,
before we play any more clips, I'd like to state that although
just before just before the vote, we both were pretty
convinced that it was not going to happen for a number of
reasons, including the murder of good reason, the murder of Joe
Cox, we had the bookies, by the way the bookies have looked into
it. I don't think they lost any money. I mean, the odds just
show
they don't lose money, lose money. idea was that the bookies
by the way the bets come in our predictive Yeah, well, they
weren't in by about about midnight West Coast time the
numbers switched off really quick, less to like 95% chance
of them leaving the bookies because the best we're starting
to pour in as the as those numbers started to change, and
I'm sure I'm sure that once that guy from the edge on Sky News
said something it just switched over That bookies pulled the
plug on the on the old odds instantly. And
what we had always said is, should they get the vote? It
will not happen because there will be a do over this is the
culture of the EU. We saw it with the Lisbon Treaty. Ireland
didn't give the right result do over the Netherlands and France
didn't give the right result that don't worry about it. We'll
just fix that in our chambers and Parliament's. And then of
course, it was all good to go. And now it looks like well, that
actually very interesting. Hold on a second, I have, I want to
have a couple of a couple of clips here. That so this is kind
of like the the White House petition, we can create a create
a petition that people can sign up for it. So now we're up to
two and a half or 3 million signatures. But that's the
point. These are not signatures, the website. It's a website
where somebody clicks a box and says, Yeah, I want another vote.
This is no good. But it's being it's being described by every
news organization, including the BBC as signatures. These are not
signatures. This is not, you know, so this is not an official
get that many signatures that quickly. No, of course not
possible or physically. But this
referendum was not binding, they can do whatever they want. And
it looks like there's going to there's a big push now for a do
over before we go there. This is Catherine Rampell. Who writes
for The Washington Post, just to give you an idea. So we already
heard the Financial Times, lady, thank you. Here's the Washington
Post. She is quite young. I'm not blaming everything on
millennials, but we know that the younger generation voted for
first day and the older generation voted for leave,
which in my mind means we should raise the voting age to 40.
Because you know, that'll be much safer for everybody.
I want to mention something about that. Because when they
were showing the kids protesting there, and we have to discuss
this sometime during this show, the kids who are holding up
signs protest signs saying all kinds of nasty stuff with a
couple of them. And I think more than a few said, I am not
British. I am European. Okay. Yeah, we got I thought that was
the most interesting thing of the night. Yes.
And we also received several notes from producers who are
unhappy about Brexit. And one of the main arguments is I don't
have now I don't have the right to go what is being described as
freedom of movement. But what I'm hearing everyone say is,
well, now I can't move to France and work there for a year. Yeah,
you can. But that's if it's the most important thing of being in
the EU is that you can leave England. What is your point?
That's why everyone? No, no, I
can't leave. Yeah, you
can I read theirs. They're idiots. And I got a lot of those
notes, same notes. And it was always Oh, now I can't leave.
What do you you can leave, you can always leave and you can go
leave. Now there's nothing's changed for a couple of weeks
for at least a year or two. And I understand we'd get out of
there if you hate it that much.
But it seems everybody who's pissed off about is the fact
that they can't work outside of England, or the UK. That just
doesn't make sense. Anyway, this I thought it was very
interesting. This is the this is all the meat this is actually
the kitchen sink the all the memes are through and thrown in
here with this.
Are you based on what you wrote that Americans will vote based
on their knowledge and not their anger?
Sadly, I am rather pessimistic. If you look at the kinds of
reasons why Americans cite their attraction to Donald Trump. So
far, it's mostly about the fact that he gives he gives voice to
their anger to their feelings of being left behind by
globalization by other forces within the economy by economic
stagnation. It's not necessarily his policy positions per se,
that are attracting voters to his message. It's more the fact
that he's sort of a way of saying, you know, damn you
establishment. We hate you elitist, you have have left us
in a terrible position. And we want to shake things up
that I will also want to get to something else you wrote in your
column, you said at least some Brits who voted to leave are
already expressing regrets now that they realize what their
ballots have, has brought. I do want to point out there's an
online petition we've learned this morning for a second EU
referendum that has reached more than a million signatures. We
know that it's not going to make a difference necessarily change
anything. But what do you think they're regretting?
Specifically?
I think they're regretting the consequences of their vote. If
you look at what happened to the pound yesterday, if you looked
at what happened to global financial markets, to panic
across around the world as a result of this decision, of
course, they're having buyer's remorse. They're saying we all
know that was coming. One would think certainly lots of
economists and other experts who warned would have dire
consequences. But yet, the leaders have
also, as a part of the sciences, the new religion, a lot of the
younger generation, when they hear things like 98% of all
scientists agree 98% of all economists agree they take it as
fact, they take it as a consensus means it's gotta be
right. It's gotta be true,
what have dire consequences. But yet, the leaders of the Leave
campaign said, well, down with the experts, we know, there were
actually one of the leaders of the campaign had basically said,
Of course, there are no experts who agree with me, but who
cares? I think this country has had enough of expertise has had
enough of experts. So yes, there were a lot of people who were
forecasting these consequences, but in a very perverse way,
because of this anti establishment, anti elitist,
anti intellectual,
anti establishment, anti elite, anti intellectual
attitude that has has taken root around the world. People just
brushed those forecasts aside and said, I don't care because
they're against it. I'm for it.
Sure. So real quickly, maybe in one or two sentences, what would
you like to say to the American electorate?
Now she's not a journalist, she's an opinion editor that
from where Washington Post Washington Post,
why oh, they're asking her to tell the American public
something as though she's a foreigner, okay, here we go. As
we
head into our own, you know, election in November,
elections have consequences. It may feel gratifying to vote for
the protest candidate. But think about what they actually stand
for, think about what experts, economists and otherwise
political historians say about the policies that the two
candidates are putting forward. And think about the consequences
of those policies, which you will have to live with.
So this meme of the most Googled term is what is the EU this was
a big one. This was expertly launched.
I got that to do before you continue with the going in that
direction. This woman had a couple of things, a couple of
memes in there that needed some addressing, yes, one of them is
the buyer's remorse. Idea. Yes. And that's where there's phony
baloney. You know, online thing came from the from the Facebook,
I'm certain to help help out with that. But she she made this
thing about, people are regretting their vote to leave.
There was a number of people that they track somebody down a
couple of people on one of these shows or other and they said,
Oh, I bribe so I went in vote and they I don't know how they
tried to sell this anyway, because it makes there's a
logical thing going on here that is being ignored by the younger
voter, and it's being ignored by the news media to the argument
is this. I went in to vote and I voted against the I voted for
exit for Brexit because I didn't think it was going to make any
difference. I didn't think it was going to make any
difference. I didn't think it was actually going to happen. I
just went in to vote to produce I kind of just did because I
don't think now the the I don't care what vote what electorate
we're talking about. If it's a British or American. If you
don't think your votes gonna mean anything. You don't vote
Yeah. I don't mean gets out of bed goes halls are asked out of
the voting place and votes because they think it's
meaningless. That's what they're trying to sell us.
Yeah. Which is all by these very smart people. You know, very
dumb people. I'm sorry.
Yeah. Yeah, right. Don't even dump the uneducated people even
less likely to go out of their way to vote.
Even Max, even on the stand. Even Max Keiser brought bought
into this that was amazing
is that the hangover from this is that Brits don't even know
what they voted for. According to Google, the most popular
search today after was, what's the EU? Why did I vote to leave
the EU? Who am I? It's one incredible accidental
revolution.
I'm not buying it. I'm not buying that at all. That was no
and that just that just popped up. Listen to
another version of this. This is a bigger mag Kaiser has no
audience. ABC has a huge audience. And this is the clip
ABC rap. Google search.
Other major story tonight the global aftershocks after that
vote in Britain and for so many around the world a stunning
result, deciding to leave the European Union to go to loan
Wall Street here at home plummeting more than 600 points
and the faces in Britain, those who thought there was no way
this could happen. Then another surprise the Prime Minister of
Britain announcing his resignation, walking back into
10 Downing Street, his arm around his wife. And here in
America the fear over Americans and their savings. The Dow
ending the day down more than 600 points. And tonight as the
reality sets in evidence, some British voters may be having
second thoughts. What are the Top Google searches in the UK?
What is the European Union voters asking what it is they
just left?
I'd like to know who
now Wait, wait, stop, stop. I got it down. was the end of this
thing because there was a joke opportunity. And it was
presented in such an awkward way. He says wondering what it
is. They just left that it was isn't suppose Oh, wonder? Yeah,
it should have been wondering what it is they just left I
think was what he's supposed to say. But he had a pause in
there. So he said, wondering what it is they just left. Which
makes it very awkward because it's that's would be the way
that to present a joke. I think somebody missed a putt does I
know how to
do it again, let me just do it again announcing
his resignation, walking back into 10 Downing Street, his arm
around his wife, and here in America fear over Americans and
their savings, the Dow ending the day down more than 600
points. And tonight as the reality sets in evidence, some
British voters may be having second thoughts. One of the Top
Google searches in the UK. What is the European Union voters
asking what it is they just left? It's a mystery
mystery mystery
the way it should have been. If you wanted to make this funny.
He could have done this wondering what it is. They just
laughed. I mean, I think it was written as a joke and and he
read it is not a joke that didn't work out. It didn't work
on a couple of things in there. I want to talk about one
savings. He uses the word savings. The stock market went
down of 600 points. He's done that before. What's it got to do
with savings? Nothing?
Well, this is this is where people buy got a couple emails.
I woke up my money is worth 10% Less. Yeah, that's not Yeah. Oh,
yeah. My money's worth 10% less. The elites lost 5 billion euros
pounds because of their money's worth less. Well, our money's
worth more. I know. No one says that. I'm like, yeah, no, yeah,
I nobody's writing that Trump did and then they ridiculed him.
Do you see the if the audio wasn't good enough to clip he
was doing his his Scottish, his golf course. Press conference
before the press conference started. Some comedian from the
UK was apparently some really funny dude. He crashed the press
conference. And he said I'm here to sell my new golf balls. And
he had golf balls with swastikas on them. They're a
great looking golf ball. They're all kind of all oriented. Very
few people covered this. In fact, ABC trying to slam him
bateau Scottish lamb bring slam him. Yeah, as I said that. Only
democracy now that I know of except some other maybe minor
outlets showed the guy hadn't come out. You could see him he's
fine logo. And then he threw a bunch of these golf balls out.
And then they showed shots of everybody. All American major
outlets. Nobody even mentioned this little thing. And it was it
was anything was funny. It was this
audio wasn't good. That's why it was it was just not Well,
Mike, the guy should have miked himself.
I have an MSNBC version of the googling. What is the EU? I'd
like to play?
Yeah, it's interesting because the googling of what is the EU
and what happens if we leave that spiked after the vote was
pretty incredible. Bob, I want to play you. Just to Kim's
point, sort of the uncertainty that we're now seeing among
people actually voted to leave. This is one young man who's
gotten a lot of play probably to his extreme sadness or woman,
about the regrets about the vote take listen,
I found me this morning, even though majority of us voted to
leave. We are actually regretting it. today. I wish we
had the opportunity to vote again. Simply because I would do
so many things differently. And
Bob, I was thinking of the there's a young man who was at a
round table who was even more famous than that for young lady,
but that kind of regret that you're seeing now. What do you
make of it? Well, I
think that people were basically saying, I'm mad as hell don't
use a cliche, I'm mad as hell. And I'm not going to take it
anymore. And that's what they were saying with their vote. If
you ask them, What are you mad at? They can't really say but
what they are angry head is the fact that not only is this an
astrologer for the past, but a fear of the future. And probably
it's a valid fear. They have been talked down to and been
taken advantage of by the elites, whether they're the
intellectual elites, the political elite, certainly the
economic elites. And of course, that is the feeling of this
country that forms the basis for this for for Donald Trump.
by always bringing it back to Trump lovely.
I guess I guess we can credit Trump for the whole thing.
So unless you have something I do have an opinion about the
real cause of this unless you want to get plenty of play some
more clips I want to do the next bit
the thing that bought Okay, let's go I got plenty of crazy
clips. Let's try it. Let's go to the ABC back to ABC with Tom
Yamas. And he's covering Trump at the golf course.
Okay, no, and we're still doing Brexit though, right? Yeah.
Okay. Gonna do Brexit for a while. Okay, good. We promise
we're gonna do Brexit, Brexit, Brexit, all of our thoughts
about Brexit, Brexit aren't all bent out of shape or screwy or
are made ill made ill by the bull crap that's being
made ill by this ease and all those fears and everything.
Again, I'm going to stick with my theory that this was all part
of a world war three scenario,
which is, which is interestingly, a couple of the
memes. I'm hearing another big one, which Angela Merkel tweeted
out as well. I'm saying the European Union project was about
stopping wars. And because it's gone now we'll have war. That is
a big one. Oh, it was about stopping wars. Yeah. I'm gonna
there's
actually people in England that believe that I'm going to die.
Remember, I was in some forum and somebody says, Oh, we're
gonna have war war, and now there's some kid, you know, an
18 year old. We're gonna have war now that my dad said, so.
When I spoke to Michelle, my buddy was the place in the south
of France In France. Oh boy. Sorry, south of France, and
France, south of France, Natalia Beth. And he said, he said,
Well, there's a couple of things. He said number one. Now
we're going to good, the French are very vindictive, he said
they are going to mess with us. That is his thinking. And he's a
real, real Brit. But the thing he brought up, which I found
interesting, is Gibraltar. Gibraltar is now in play. And
it's in the parallel is so uncanny. Because here we have a
small piece of that notes attached to Spain. It was
acquired after the the War of the succession of Spain. When
was the the big kahuna, I forget his name. He was childless. And
so who was going to be the ruler of Spain, and they had to divvy
it all up. And, you know, some went to his sister. And so there
was a lot going on. And then, you know, there was a big war
over this succession. And what wound up happening is, in
England, which was a smaller player, they got a couple of
protectors, they got Menorca, and they got Gibraltar, and
Gibraltar, arguably was a part of the EU with or is a part of
the EU with the United Kingdom in the EU, but now the EU, and
Spain is saying, hey, you know, we should, we should change the
rules here. That should be different. And the Brits, they
love Gibraltar because it's a great place to go. You know,
they love going on vacation. It's been there in their family
for 100, hundreds of years. And here's the here's the irony.
It's like Crimea, it's the exact same thing. But I think it'll be
handled a little differently in this case.
Well, it's gonna be interesting to see how Gibraltar is handled
because it was something like it voted at 90% this day, which is
makes sense because they're actually in the EU. They're
physically attached as opposed to the British Isles.
What do you think of the comparison to Crimea? With
Russia?
I never thought of that. I think it's a good idea. But the
problem is, it's not as though as traditionally anybody's. I
mean, the only people that could I mean British. It would make a
better parallel if the Russians always had Crimea. And the
Crimeans wanted to be with Ukraine. When it's just kind of
the Astra Well, yes, true. It's just like a reverse it's kind of
like a reverse twist. Kind of a fancy version of the Crimea
situation with everything backwards. Yeah. So is that it's
an interesting thing to bring up as such, but I don't see the
parallel is not really accurate. It is a problem I think private
and Gibraltar's every so often goes into one of these little
little snippet things where they don't know me it's very British
my understanding Airbender love to go but it's apparently you
know, it's it's a little it's like a little London. And, and I
guess London itself is also problematic because they voted
heavily into to stay.
Yeah, I have a have actually, this is a Max Keiser clip, which
I think is fantastic. Short one about the problem with the City
of London being within London, of course, they all wanted to
stay and here's why UK
it's got financial services. Okay. And this is what they have
is a raunchy economy and they're at the nexus of the European
Centre for money laundering and other financial crimes. Now with
Brexit that is in question, a lot of that business is going to
flow to Frankfort. So their ability to skim the cream off
the top is diminished, and that means less cash flow, and that
means a less ability to keep that top 1/10 of one cent happy
And then meanwhile, there's no manufacturing base. I mean, so
let the pound drops down to record lows, does that mean that
they're gonna go back into the factory and start, you know,
building shoes and they're gonna start building? You know, stuff
and they're not that's not gonna happen in maybe 20 or 30 years
they have to rebuild the entire industrial base. That's not
gonna happen in one or two years. Yeah, we
have to find a new place to launder the drug money. I don't
know what we're gonna do. Is a good one.
Here's a little little snippet, this kind of funny. Play this
HMS Cornwall story.
Okay, and then
I gotta tell you something. Connell, no one's talked about
this. But in 2007, the HMS Cornwall was was was was was
stopped. And by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, they held
their sailors for 15 days. They humiliated them just like they
did ours in January. And, and the Great Britain had to go to
Brussels for help. And of course, Brussels dragged your
feet. So along the way, I mean, this doesn't happen overnight.
Remember, the Euro skepticism, or the euro skeptic movement
goes back a minimum of five years even longer. So this has
been building for a long time.
If I didn't know that story,
somehow I vaguely remember. Yes, but I don't have any B 12 in the
in the air stream.
Yeah, you should probably grab some but let's play a couple of
random clips. I'll actually go back to the Trump clip. Yeah,
this ABC Tom Yamas trying to trying to hammer hammer hammer
and slam Trump
to his core. Donald Trump choppered in for the reopening
of his golf course, with this bold announcement.
Basically, they took back their country, that's a great
with bagpipers following him, and staffers wearing red made
Turnberry great again caps. Trump spent less than 30 seconds
at the top of his speech addressing Brexit, then another
13 minutes praising the course from the new sprinklers to the
luxury suites.
A lot of people think this will be the greatest part three
anywhere in the world.
afterwards. Trump fielding many questions about Brexit. Do you
think anything you said in the United States influenced voters
here in Britain when it comes to leaving the EU?
If I said yes, total influence at all say that's terrible. His
ego is terrible, right? So I will never say that Tom, but my
opinion is that what happened should have happened. They'll
control their country and they'll control everything about
their country.
Trump also tweeting, they took their country back, just like we
will take America back. And as the British pound was sinking,
Trump was singing
block. If the pound goes down, they're gonna do more business.
You know, when the pound goes down, more people are coming to
Turnberry. Frankly,
on Wednesday, Trump was less certain about Brexit.
I don't think anybody should listen to me because I haven't
really focused on it very much, but my inclination would be to
get out.
And today Hillary Clinton releasing this new video,
mocking his golf course appearance. Are you traveling
with any of your foreign policy advisers,
in touch with them, but there's nothing to talk about?
David, though Trump is in Scotland for this critical time
in Europe's history. This was a scheduled business trip. And
tonight the Trump campaign tells me right now, there are no other
foreign trips planned before the election. David
Thomas and Scotland for us tonight, Tom?
Yes. Yeah, they
played a clip from some a Hillary thing that was just
lame. Yeah,
there was a lot of this analysis people saying he didn't even
know what it was about of about it. No, there was a vote being a
lot of hyperbole. You know, he a true leader would have taken
this time to talk about the consequences and not just about
his own stuff. The Baba Baba, by the way, I have a confession to
make.
He went there to he went there to open the golf course. That's
why he was supposed to do
I have a confession to make?
The you hate golf
now, don't blame me. No, no, no, no, I didn't experiment, a test
to prove or to demonstrate how media can control your mind.
And, and I didn't I didn't tell you about it all. Although I
think in the last episode, I never know whether you you may
have already figured out what I was doing. Here's what I did. I
made a big deal about the media using the word slammed and
hammered and thumped and pounded. And all of all these
words and you have highlighted this for us of me doing this.
Yeah. The reason why I did it is a Mind Control trick. Because
every time you read this or hear this on the news, what do you
think about
when somebody says slammed or hammered
Yeah, if you've been listening to the show, and you hear that
on the news, you think about the show. Oh,
yes, that yeah, we do that every so often. We try to do that.
So I did it on purpose. And I want everyone to realize how
well it worked.
I don't know that it did.
Oh yeah. Have you Seeing Twitter. Oh yeah, the minute
there's a slammed headline, boom, there's 100 posts.
That's a plus that good, good for you. I'm glad you did that.
But it was more to try to do that we've done this before with
other memes that come out we bitched and moaned about him.
Yeah, but it works. I just never thought slammed was used that
much until you pointed it out, and I'm looking well, then they
have they have transformed to hammered, or whatever the next
one is, because they're overusing the term. But I
thought that when we developed the end of the day,
yeah, by categories, that also helped, yeah, that was also a
good one, but that we didn't do that on purpose. And this one, I
think, came
after that we did on purpose. And I can't remember what it
was, was another critique. It's another one of these phrases
that the media keeps using over and over and over and over and
over. And it just drives both of us kind of crazy. Slam never
really bothered me that much. But
it seems a little beneath the New York Times. And the Bs and
the BBC,
having written a couple pieces for them over the years. And I
know how the editing works. Yes, I'm stunned that New York Times
even allows it and BBC
BBC News Well,
well, BBC is, you know, there. I don't know what they're up to.
But it's nothing, nothing good. This whole thing is just a. And
whether it results in you know, I, here's a mate, here's a
little if you go on the internet's, you'll see a bunch
of websites, if you look for the conspiracy sites about how the
US is really behind the entire EU. And we want to start and
there's, there's some truth to that. But let's listen to here's
a good clip on the PBS news hour, discussing the USA
involved in the European project,
agree that there isn't any leverage or room for maneuver,
particularly with Chancellor Merkel and with the United
States. And stepping back. We have been at this for 70 years.
This is not just a European project. It's very much an
American project. And we have been central for those 70 years
to cajole the Europeans at particular times when things
were going the wrong way to do the right thing and work
together. Our leverage isn't the same as it was in the in the 40s
and 50s, in the 60s, but it's still there. We're still a very
critical partner. And I do believe that if the United
States, particularly working together with the Chancellor
Merkel, were to make it very clear that, yes, we accept the
results of the voters. And yes, there will be a different
relationship between the United Kingdom and the European Union.
But we still want the United Kingdom to be a fundamental,
strong European power. And we want the Europeans and the
United Kingdom and the United States to work closely together.
We'll do it in NATO, we'll do it on an ad hoc basis outside of
it, but we need to work this out together in order to maintain
this the essential European project. Hmm.
Well, yeah, I can say, Well, I'd say more of the globalists
really, you know, create a United States of Europe, then,
and then bring it all together eventually. Yeah, the one world
government. People laughed when we said but this is a lot to I
don't know, I don't think
they're laughing as much as they used to. Yeah, I mean, they used
to we remember when we first picked up on Nigel Farage and
his influence, very early on very early on you, Kip was doing
anything we just saw this guy's too much of a of a interesting
speaker to ignore. We got a lot of flack from the UK listeners.
That guy's a
racist, racist, racist, racist, racist,
racist, racist, racist, racist. And, you know, he's continued to
provide us with material.
I know where this I know where this racist thing comes from,
which I think is worth going back into history for a moment
back to 2011. Because all of this racist stuff, what are you
laughing at?
Let's go away back in history, said 1860. I think that, uh,
well,
I already did. I already did that with Gibraltar and I got
nothing from your email. So
we're floundering with the backstory. Let's go
back to 2011.
Okay, this actually goes back to earlier than that. These
problems specifically with, let's just say, broadly,
immigration, started with a concept that was pushed very,
very hard by the European Union. And I witnessed this myself at
the turn of the millennium in 2000, where Europe was going to
create the multicultural society. That was the idea. That
was the plan. And along with that came a lot of issues. Let's
start with Salman Rushdie. Really, if you think about it,
he was the first guy to write some think bad about the Prophet
Muhammad. And there's a fatwa on his head, in fact, not reported
were very underreported in February of this year, the Grand
Poobah there and Iran up the fatwa to $4 million. If you kill
the guy, which is known people, you know Salman
Salman, because my understanding was the fatwa was lifted.
No, sir. No, sir. In fact, the New York Times did report on it.
Let me see I have it here. February 23, The New York Times
reported on this. Iran's former Supreme Leader Ayatollah
Khomeini issued the fatwa in 89. And he just upped it to $4
million in the beginning of this year, just under reported, so
these are the say, these are the issues and I have a couple more
examples, after Charlie Hebdo. But listen to David Cameron,
talking about the issues the United Kingdom faced in 2011.
And then just in your mind, think about how he's been
speaking about these same issues in the most recent memory last
year to
what I'm about to say, is drawn from the British experience. But
I believe there are general lessons for us all. In the UK,
some young men find it hard to identify with the traditional
Islam practiced at home by their parents, whose customs can seem
staid, when when transplanted to modern Western countries. But
these young men also find it hard to identify with Britain
too, because we've allowed the weakening of our collective
identity under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we've
encouraged different cultures to live separate lives apart from
each other, and apart from the mainstream,
and this is exactly what the multicultural idea was and
everyone said Yeah, that's great we should have all everyone
should be in Europe Hey, you Muslims can be over here and you
orthodox can be over here you Jews can be over here, but and
Muslims, you can split up Moroccans there Turks there, you
know, Pakistan, whatever you want, everybody Yes. So we
failed. Yeah, here it comes. He's actually going to say the
remember this is
2011 a vision of society to which they feel they want to
belong. We've even tolerated these segregated communities,
behaving in ways that run completely counter to our
values. So when a white person holds objectionable views,
racist views, for instance, we rightly condemn them. But when
equally unacceptable views or practices come from someone who
isn't white, we've been too cautious, frankly, frankly, even
fearful to stand up to them. The failure for instance, of some to
confront the horrors of forced marriage, the practice where
some young girls are bullied, and sometimes taken when taken
abroad to marry someone who they don't when they don't want to,
is a case in point, this hands off tolerance has only served to
reinforce the sense that not enough is shared. And this all
leaves some young Muslims feeling rootless, and a search
for something to belong to and something to believe in, can
lead them to this extremist ideology, that for sure they
don't turn into terrorists overnight. But what we see and
what we see in so many European countries, is a process of
radicalization.
refreshing to hear him say those things which have now you can't
say that anymore, because you're just a racist. And underneath
the undercurrent blank Clip of the Day, give it to yourself.
Thank you. I'll take the border liner. The under excellent
clip,
thank you. I wasn't looking for this because I was I was in
the clip from the pay we should have had the
angle and Mark Angular Merkel at the time just in German, but
Angular Merkel came out and said the multicultural society has
failed. At that point in time in the Netherlands, Taillefer Hall.
I can't say it was a friend but it was a colleague at work with
him a couple of TV shows. He did a movie, which was anti Islam
about how women are treated. He was shot down in the streets of
Amsterdam and then a knife he was shot knife and they stuck a
note with other prominent people who are next on the list into
his chest. With a knife it within I haven't forgotten this.
Then we had I'll just skip forward quick, Charlie Hebdo.
Just an idea about about Britain, the UK. After Charlie
Hebdo the Victoria and Albert Museum took down Muhammad's
image, because, quote, British museums and libraries hold
dozens of these images, mostly miniatures and manuscripts. So
they had to take them all out of view. In Germany, the Deutsche
opera cancelled Mozart's demonio in Berlin because it depicted
the severed head of Muhammad, the English playwright which had
been was to censor his adaptation of Lysistrata in
which the Greek women hold a sex strike to stop men from going to
war. In his script, Muslim virgins were going on strike to
stop suicide bombers couldn't have that, nope, can't have
that. Molly Norris cartoon American cartoonist, she drew a
picture of Muhammad that proclaimed every one draw
Muhammad day, she's still in hiding to this day, the
Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York pulled images of
Muhammad. So people notice these things, particularly older
people. And they say hold on a second, this is affecting our
culture. And this is just the art world. So that is really a
big part of what people have been feeling. And then the
minute you said something about it, that's when that BAM your
racist labeling came in. So this has been brewing a long time.
And you can say, Sure, it's the laws and as the regulations and
all that, but when you have a problem with the people living
next door to you, ghettoized, this is much bigger than
anything else. And this is not discussed, particularly if you
know that this discussion, this conversation was going on in
Europe for years and years and years. And now it's over. You
can't talk about it anymore, because the we went from
multicultural to complete to create that national identity.
Well, that's failed to instead of saying we failed this, let's
stop it. You said we failed. Let's keep going and let's take
any dissenters and call them racist.
And xenophobic and xenophobes? Yes. And by the way, I mentioned
a newsletter that I don't think anybody using the word Zeno
phobe knew what this word meant a decade ago they had to look it
up I think it started be may have even begun with Trump
because somebody some intellectual match that he's now
starting to get started with Farage, I think that's when I
first heard it.
Okay, well then whatever the case somebody brought up and
they said that phrase, somebody brought up the word and people
started looking it up and so this is a good word and it
actually identifies the problem better than just racist and I so
now what you get is xenophobic and racist. So you got both
words and then we got a new one which came into play which
people should look for. You hear it a lot. demagogue? Yeah,
demagogue? Yes. That's the left wing is the one that brought
demagogue in and demagogue is a horrible, it sounds bad. But if
you look up the definition for it, it simply means populist.
Yeah, it's a person who takes advantage of popular opinions.
In other words, if everybody wants to, you know, wants to do
something, let's say they want to put a lake in the
neighborhood. And you do we need the lake we need the lake you
can be defined as a demagogue. Just that simple. It's not it's
not a really a negative thing it has, but it has negative
connotations. It's from the sounds of it. Damn, God. Yeah.
He's a demon demon.
It's got it's got demon. It's got Gog, which is got some sort
of negative things in some biblical sensor Talmud accents,
I believe. And there is a so now you're a demagogue, a racist and
xenophobic. And I have seen posts on Twitter and elsewhere
where somebody has called these three things. And somebody's
feels so proud of themselves for using those words.
Oh, another word that I think is used incorrectly but the big
word is divorce. I mean, what came
in? Yeah, that came right. That came now that you mentioned
because i did i i noticed it, but I didn't notice it to the
point where I'd mentioned on the show, but now that you have i
Yes. It's being used improperly constantly with this situation
with the Brexit. Ah, it's gonna be an ugly divorce, divorce,
divorce, divorce, and divorce they're trying to divorce is
easy in Texas. Just shoot a woman right?
Now in the Netherlands. It's if you kill your wife view and you
just say oh my god, it was a crime of passion. You'll see
you'll be it'll be five years you can get out in three. But if
you go through the whole divorce women have a lot of rights in
divorce in Europe in the EU, you could wind up paying money for
the rest of your life so you know your choice and
God anyway so the divorces get divorce came into play as
opposed to just leaving you know, or divorce I did it came
into play. All the networks are using it and it has a negative
connotation. Like everything else that is being reported
about like, like, like someone cheated on their wife or
something. Yes, they're divorcing they're divorcing.
Something went went wrong and it was bad and somebody was at
fault and a new piece of data it has to be England seems to be at
fault. But whether or not you're you're probably right about to
simmering it issues of multiculturalism that have
ghettoized these these I ambulation. I've lived in in
countries you've lived in it. Yeah. And it does make nothing
but sense. And I think that clip of Cameron discussing it with
then you're right, I haven't heard that discussion for years,
is probably probably had more influence than the other two
factor. And
that was that was at the start of, you know, of course, the EU
does go back a long time, it goes back to the atomic European
atomic treaty, I think, you know, a lot of different
treaties have led up to this. But I was there the sale was
multicultural society is going to be great multi, and it was
every single country as part of the EU, it was a big push. And I
also remember when everyone said, crap, it's failed. And
that was around this time starting with Merkel.
Well, it's Yeah, multi CultI replacing melting pot, which was
the old, you know, that was our that was, that was Mark, we had
the melting pot, because we get sick all these people in at a
certain rate and make Americans and there was an issue,
especially in the 20s and 30s. And some of these early
movements where you had a lot of Eastern Europeans coming over
and the parents would come in and say, oh, you can't don't
speak the home language. You got to learn English, you got to
speak English, you got to speak English, and become an American.
And you know, there's still pockets of Chinese only speakers
and plenty of best Spanish only areas,
but get over ghettoization that's that's the result. That
was the total result.
Yeah. Hey, let's listen to I've got I got an interesting clip,
because Brooks and shields the tube, same from the same pod
peas in the same pod on PBS. Brooks is the guy from The New
York Times who has been completely
baffled
by the Trump phenomenon. And I find it by the way, discouraging
that he hasn't been fired. Because of I'm going to listen
to people doing analysis, I want them to understand and explain
to me something, not like, I don't understand this guy. Why?
And he even says a few times in some clips, we played it where
he says, I don't know, I haven't got a clue. So what are you on
the show for? Well, I think he's still trying to understand it.
And he's almost getting, he's getting kind of close. And he
discusses the Brexit, with I think of fairly reasonable
analysis for someone who still doesn't know what he's talking
about, and, and agrees, ends up agreeing with shields about the
same thing. But this is the blame game argument. This is one
of the things that you've heard you probably disagree with,
where they just blame the elites.
Oops, oops, oops, sorry, scapegoating.
Anyway, but but this is I thought was, well, I thought
this was better than most of these little bits they do until
now
practically, has been about the vote of the of the in the UK,
David to leave the European Union. What do you what do you
make of this?
Well, in country after country, we're seeing a conflict between
my color but cosmopolitans and less well educated ethnic
nationalism, domestic nationalism is on the rise. And
I agree with everything that EVO Richard, and
stop there for a second. Is that not the definition of bigotry?
No, it's total bigotry and he is a bigot. And he does he does
fall into the trap of blaming the dummies. Because the dummy
shouldn't end a dummy shouldn't vote, by the way for verbal IQ,
and IQ to issue an IQ test. Yeah. And he falls into that
trap because he is an elite. And so he actually is speaking from
an elite perspective. In this little bit, and if you think of
it now, those terms you can hear the bigotry is a horrible bigot.
And but at the same time he is he's expressing the elites
perspective from a kind of the critic within the league click
kind of thing. I just found it interesting.
And ethnic nationalism was on the rise. And I agree with
everything that EVO Richard and Margaret were saying, but it
should be said and I covered I lived in Brussels for five years
at the Maastricht Treaty when all this was coming together.
And the elites as much as I hate the leave the fact that the UK
is gonna leave the EU, the elites have been some large
rebreathing on this on themselves. There was built into
the European unification project and anti democratic, a
condescending and a snobbish attitude about popular
democracy. And secondly, and this is also true here, and I'm
as Pro immigration as the day is long. But we've asked a lot of
people who are suffering in this economy to accept extremely
radically high immigration levels, and we've probably over
flooded the system. And so while it's easy, and I do condemn the
vote to leak it out, Hello, humility is not over on the part
of the establishment, frankly, that we've flooded the system
with more than it can handle. And secondly, we've not provided
a good nationalism, a good patriotism that is Cosmopolitan
that is outward standing. And that is confident and therefore
a bad form of parochial inward looking Trumpian nationalism,
free reign,
Mark, the elites brought it on themselves. I think the forces
and the advocates of globalization have been
primarily obsessed with the well being of the investor class, and
the stockholders or shareholders and been indifferent, oftentimes
callous to the dislocation and the suffering that people in
countries affected by this trade, the expanded trade, the
larger economy, who have been victimized by it, and it has
been accompanied, I think, by an elitist condescension, in many
cases. And it's been taken advantage of I mean, the
shorthand today is that we saw the words of the Republican
nominee and waiting, who is a part time presidential candidate
and a full time real estate developer. He wants like Obama
last I mean by by any scorecard, there is no spin on this, that
in any way. comforts Democrats today, if this?
Who are the elites really win win? I mean, let's let's just
break it down. Does that include everyone with a college
education because I am under educated? So I am a dummy.
According to these people, you're Yeah.
I want I was thinking this exact same thing, who are the elites
and who are the ones that are being condemned in this
particular this little bit? We listen to it, even though David
Brooks to me is an elite. And there is no real group of
elites. I mean, there are people that meet at the Bilderberg or
drinking club. I mean, that which includes people like Eric
Schmidt Yeah. And a number of people from the CFR, the Council
on Foreign Relations. I think that group is are the elites are
part of the elites. I think that entire catalog that you can
download, how about
about the Atlantic Council?
Got the got it. That's totally elite, you want it? So they have
one higher on that council, you're an elite period is by
definition.
So you want to hear what one of the elites they're one of their
economists had to say he was actually quite, quite calm and
reassuring about the future how it would go. Dr. Jeffery gedman.
Yeah, we know that Britain has decided to leave the European
Union, I would say for all of us, big, deep breath. It doesn't
mean the sky is falling. It doesn't mean the European Union
is coming unglued. Does it mean the end of World Order as we
know it, it means that Britain's very thoughtfully in a very
contentious campaign and referendum have decided for
reasons of maybe economics, maybe identity, maybe issues of
sovereignty have decided their future is best served outside
the European Union. It's still a European country and power, it
still wants to and needs to and will work closely with the
European Union. I think the questions that remained are,
what is the transition look like? How do we protect
stability? How do we guard against unwanted volatility
inside Europe and with the United States? And I would even
say this for Europeans. I think it's a wake up call. Because the
questions that Britons were asking themselves, they exist in
other countries to other two are concerned about democracy
deficit. The meaning democracy, justice, Europe, how does one
define that? Is it more integration? Is it less
integration? Is it a one speed Europe is a multi speed Europe?
So I would say while some people will be disappointed in Brussels
and Paris and Berlin will be disappointed, I think it's a
chance to hear citizens across Europe. deep concerns, how do we
make Europe function smoothly going forward? Keep Britain part
of that project, and America close to both United Kingdom and
the European Union. If we listen to learn the right lessons, I
think we're going to be just fine. No,
that's how the elites tell you. It's all going to be okay.
The tone it's a very elite guy.
Just don't worry. It's all going to be fine. Because it'll never
happen. There's going to be a do over. It's obvious. They're not
going to let it happen.
Well, if they have Yunker, as one of the Presidents Juncker
the head really the head guy. Yeah. And Schultz. Yeah, both of
those two guys have said Let's speed up the process. Let's get
minimized out and I'm out.
And meanwhile, Merkel came out and said, No, no, no, no, no,
slow down. We don't know that Dan. I think she's and seeing
the possibility of it not really happening. And she's saying no,
no, no, no, no, we don't want to rush into I think I have a clip
about this. But she, she's like, I mean, it's so it looks so
obvious to me that the entire EU project even though we're behind
it, and then we were kind of supportive of the Germans after
the war, I mean, we killed them as many as we could. But after
the war was over, we realized they were good at a few things.
And we took a lot of them into our scientific community,
national Operation Paperclip, Operation Paperclip on most of
this, it seems totally illegal, and definitely unethical. But we
did it anyway. And I think this is the Germans keep making this,
of course, the French used to do this, they with Napoleon, they
kept trying to take over the whole of Europe and the whole
place, they wanted to take the place over. And then the Germans
started doing it. But the Germans have a longer history of
trying to take the place over also. And it's like, let's let
the Germans take the place over. This is a can take over the
whole place because these people are doing knuckle under the
knuckled under the last time this time will be peaceful, will
create this this EU Germans run the whole thing. And it's all
run by a bunch of you know, these bureaucrats into these
characters. Yoker is a good example. Yeah, he's not German.
But he's fled from Luxembourg and Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, I
guess this was the clip. This is a clip that BBC was playing,
which I did not get a copy of anyone in the chat room before
this on the stream listening if you can email it to me if you
find it. They interviewed a veteran of World War Two old
Brit and he was late, late 80s and 89 in the heat and he is
he's cry. It's a great piece of audio. But I was listened to his
streaming. So I couldn't I couldn't catch it. Couldn't find
it. And he's crying. He's He's so emotional. Because I can't
believe that finally, we we have our my country I had my country
back, the one that my friends and my buddies died for, just to
have a bunch of Germans run the whole place. He was so happy.
But he was emotional. Because it's not that long ago, there
are people who remember,
we're not that many, but enough of them that none of them. None
of the oldsters that remember, and they were lectured a lie
when they're, the younger generation doesn't even know
there was a war that the 18 to 20 fours is towards 75% of them
voted to stay in the EU, they don't know. And they're the ones
who say that, you know, I'm not British. I'm European and they
think of themselves as European. I don't know about you. You've
been to Europe a lot. You live there a long time. Yeah, here
and there. Yeah, I don't I've never thought of the British as
European per se. But I thought it was British.
Well, this was something that was sold in and I've heard
German say this. I've heard British say this. I've heard
Dutch say this, that for a long time I heard we I do feel I feel
like I'm a European. Yes, we are. The idea was right. Hey,
we're the young generation, we don't hold grudges against the
the new Germans. They're sorry. You know, just give me my bike
back. We're gonna talk about it. And they all consider themselves
to be a European, then it was hammered into everybody's head,
your European, your European. But ultimately, we know, a
fiscal union without a political union. It just it's very
dangerous.
Well, some people blame the the the actual creation of the
Eurozone. Sure, as part of the problem, the British luckily
never became part of the Eurozone. And so they could get
out a little easier that all the entanglements. I mean, that's
why the great I think the Greeks would have left a long time ago
if they weren't somehow wrangled into the euro. But it seems to
me that you have this Germans running everything, and the
Germans are Germans, and they are the ones that they set up
this this number of bureaucracy people working in the
bureaucracy is twice the size, according to the one of the
London newspapers, twice the size, the bureaucracy, creating
laws and rules is twice the size of the British Army. The what we
have going on in our country, which is these rulemaking
bodies, which have gotten out of control, which I think is
annoying to most people trying to run a business. And I think
in England, there was nothing but complaining about this small
business people, they couldn't do this. They couldn't do that.
There were too many rules. And these rules all came out of
Brussels. And it because there's a manufacturing operation going
on in Brussels of rule writing is right. No, let's make the
plug this size. Let's do this. Let's let's standardize this
this. Oh, yeah.
It's the teapots a rule writing factory. That's right.
Yeah. So they're writing all these rules and regulations,
tons of them, millions of them. And they expect everybody to
even keep up with it. It's almost as impossible. So you're
always via in violation of very Soviet ideas. No. So no matter
what you do during the day, violation of some rule, we have
that here in the United States, too. By the way, we have it here
only recently and it's been going it's been getting worse.
The EPA is a good example. You don't know what the hell's going
on with these rules. I mean, that's what's going to happen to
the you know, this net neutrality thing it's going to
turn into the FCC is going to write a bunch of rolls in pretty
soon you're gonna need a license to get on the internet. Maybe
not that I definitely
remind me remind me of a clip for that later you know the clip
for that
good. Yeah, but this whole thing is like you know it's just I'm
glad this happened and I'm glad they voted out now let's let's
the one that bothers me the most though. Let's listen to the CBS
and this is what bothers me the most and it should bother you.
You're old enough to feel ageism. But let's listen to CBS.
ageist rap
in Europe would allow an influx of immigrant hordes from the
east and those who had successfully made
their ascending horse What did he say? Yeah, what's the
problem? People
in Europe would allow an influx of immigrant hordes from the
east and those who had successfully stoke those fears
like Nigel Farage, were gleeful,
June 23, needs to become a national bank holiday. And we
will call it Independence Day. London, by
the way, that was well timed with the Will Smith movie coming
out with the Independence Day genius, very, very
London, unlike most of the country had voted to stay in.
And Leave campaigner Boris Johnson was geared as he left
home, he's now a favorite to take over as prime minister and
tried to take the high road,
I believe we now have a glorious opportunity. We can pass our
laws and set our taxes entirely according to the needs of the UK
economy. We can control our own borders.
The vote had split the country on age, geographic and economic
lines. The older, less well educated, young, better
educated, wanted to stay in the vote has been cleared the air
here it's made it more bitter, the old have determined what
kind of country the young will live in.
So just replace the world old with black or red, or female or
whatever.
Yeah, it's unbelievable. I thought that was the one of the
most abhorrent raps that CBS could manage. Now CBS, of
course, we know is an agent of a government agency. And I
government agency, the whole government, our government
didn't want this to happen because we use the we like
Britain to be in the in the EU, because we could tell them to
make sure that Russia gets sanctions against Yes, anybody
outside of Britain, nobody else would go for this. But the
British are very, very powerful. And they represent the US there
are agents in the EU, which we wanted to keep as an agent. So
we could do stuff like these sanctions against which are
really the sanctions against Russia hurt the EU. And by the
way, people say Oh, Putin wins because of this. No, Putin
doesn't want the whole thing to fall apart because he knows what
the results of that would be. Because, you know, these guys
start fighting with each other. And next thing you know, they
want to take over Russia. NATO wants to do that
inside track, as it won't be Boris Johnson, who will become
prime minister.
What is What did you hear? Theresa May? Yeah. Theresa Mays
high on the list. Everyone's talking about her? Do we listen
to
her? Really? Yeah, we haven't heard from her in a while
this legislation is important. The substance is right. The time
is right. And the way in which it has been developed right, is
a properly considered thought through set of proposals that
will help to keep us safe, at a time of very significant danger.
It has been drawn up in close consultation with the police and
security services in an open and free society like ours, we can
never entirely eliminate the threat from terrorism. But we
must do everything possible, consistent with our values as a
country to reduce the risk presented by our enemies, which
is a struggle that will go on for many years. And the threat
we face right now is perhaps greater than it ever has been.
And we must have the powers we need powerless, powerless to
defend ourselves.
As she is your new Prime Minister, I'm I hear that
actually. I
forgot about that. Yeah, she's terrible. Yeah. Yeah. She's
terrifying for the show.
Oh, by the way, thank you very much Britain, because this is
great for the show. I mean, very happy about
that. Yeah, it gives us a detailed set and we get to this.
We've, we'd like to discuss what's going on over there,
generally speaking, but this is a real Goldmine because it
brings in all sorts of issues of the of the name calling and what
to who are the elites, we still don't particularly know, but
they're there and I'm
also very proud that the the no agenda listeners were well ahead
of knowing what was coming. Everywhere I heard. Well,
Americans probably think Brexit is a new breakfast cereal or a
new candy bar. Talk about your own educated one. Just say we're
all more On idiots may be true, but still, come on. There's some
people are aware, I would say only your no agenda show has
kept you up to speed with this thing is what's going
on where a lot of people feel that's the case that nobody else
is talking about this in advance. I mean, days before the
Brexit vote, there was still no discussion on the mainstream
media, we saw this coming down Broadway, I want to play an
example of bad analysis. It was it's actually kind of this sort
of thing that happened J Fox deteriorated after it went back
to their normal hosts, because of normal rules aren't that
good. And this is Tucker Carlson, who's at some now and
all of a sudden an expert discussing with Greta, the
Scientologists some of the fallout of this and then going
then it just falls into an abyss at the very end, which is just
needs comment.
I'm trying to find which clip it would be.
It would be an example of bad analysis. There you go. I
got France, Germany. I mean, they're not that the Netherlands
are not that many huge economies in Europe. But now, Germany is
preeminent. And so if I'm Spain, or Portugal or France, for that
matter, I'm looking at Germany and saying, really, I want to be
part of an organization that you dominate completely. No, I mean,
the support for leaving in these other countries, Netherlands,
particularly France also is really high. Trumpism, which is
another word for nationalism is a is a global trend.
Hold on a second? What? Trump ism, which is another word for
nationalism, is that in the dictionary, all of a sudden,
no, but if you notice, this is the second time somebody asked
Trump's name and made it into something. Yes. I love this
trend.
So tell me how to fix us here?
Well, probably it will cause our economy to contract to some
degree. Again, the finance sector it the whole one of the
main points of globalization is that it allows capital to flow
freely with less friction across borders. That is really good for
finance. And there is some trickle down effect
by finance. I mean, banking, basically. Okay, well, not
everybody's a banker. Banker, and a lot of people aren't even
dependent on bankers for you know, their debt dependent for
their money, maybe if they're trying to launch. You're
absolutely right. But and there is some trickle down effect.
Okay, and I didn't get too much work to put the buzzer in. But
let's stop there. Because he agrees with her when she says
Not everybody's a banker, nobody's affected by it. She
absolutely insane. Yeah, she is saying that banks don't mean
anything to most people. They mean everything to everyone.
Every dollar you spend is a Federal Reserve, that's a bank
gets an instrument of a bank, every check you write is an
instrument of a bank, every credit card purchase you employ
is an instrument of a bank, every dollar you get you get for
a salary isn't it becomes comes from a bank, everything you do
all the time?
Well, to be honest, I believe what she means is there's two
types of banks. And it's been conflated, certainly since in
America since the, you know, Glass Steagall was taken away.
Do you have the bank, which is the retail banking, which is for
small business, and then you have of course, the bigger ones,
you know, there's for bigger businesses, but then you have
the investment side. And and that's, that's the problem is
all the bank stocks are going down. It shouldn't make any
difference to anybody. In the example you talking about?
Well, she's made the point that the public seems divorced from
banking. And the point is just the opposite. He could have
brought that in, but he agreed with her instead, because
useless now. Now the the whole, you know, the banking sector, by
the way, their bank, stocks are going down, because nobody knows
what's going to happen. This is what really caused the stock
market crash, and whether it have when or how it recovers. I
mean, we've talked about this before, it could result in a
triggering effect where we actually go into a deep
recession. This is
the this is the question I have for you. Where does this fit
into the cycles?
Well, it fits right into the cycles, and it's almost perfect.
And here's what's I know, but whether or not this is the
mechanism that the triggering event is hard to say. Now we're
talking about the 14 year 40 and 80 year cycle that I'm always
talking about. And that's which says we're going to have a
really bad depression in 2016, late 2016, or 2017 2017, should
be the year it happens. But because the crash, the real
estate crash that started the so called great recession happened
in 2008 instead of 2009 when it was actually scheduled by my
theory to happen to happen six months to a year earlier. It's
possible that Tom Hartman thoughts from this 2016 crash
might be right. I mean, this could do it. I don't think so.
Because what's my observation is the 2008 thing caught everyone
off guard. And we were controlling this particular
downturn, which started in 2008. And has continued and I think
had something to do with the Brexit, which is I read,
nobody's doing well, there's all kinds of reports on the British
don't think they're going anywhere. 11% of the public is
only optimists. And so it's possible. I don't think so I
think what's going to happen is going to recover. And Vince go
on his merry way marching for but it's going to happen. Again,
when either Netherlands, Denmark or one of these other countries,
those are the two that are targeted for another Brexit
vote, or exit, exit next at
sweat, sweat sick, you got the sweat exit?
And what's the sweat? Sweden? Oh, yes, Sweden, yes, where
exactly those flip switches that can happen to. And that could
all happen every time. Every time that happens. It's going to
drop the market again, because oh my god, we're all gonna die.
And I think any one of those could trigger the final
collapse, which will be a nasty one.
And that would just be the idea of of a referendum, an exit
referendum or an actual referendum?
No, it has to be the vote. I think we I think it has to be
modeled after what we just saw. There was the idea was there we
were waiting for it, blah, blah, blah, we had our thoughts about
how it's gonna go. It went in the way that nobody fully
expected, right, which was a surprise, which was an element
of surprise, which was a problem for the market. And so we had
this element of surprise. And so then the thing collapse, I think
is kind of be the model it's going to be the vote comes in.
Oh, no. And then the market will collapse in one of these
collapses. I think it will trigger something bigger and it
probably be combined with something else. I just don't
think this is it. If it is okay, but I'm not I just don't see it.
It's just a wasn't panic. People Keep Talking about panic. There
was no panic.
Something else Michelle said. The said You just wait. He says
I know what France is going to do. They says they're going to
load up a whole bunch of these of these migrants on the ferry.
They're gonna take them over. They're gonna drop them off.
Because according to British law, the minimum set channel,
yeah, well, that to the minute you set foot on British soil,
you have the right as a refugee as an asylum seeker.
There has been some talk about this is not this is this has
been discussed. What you're what you're saying. Yeah. And I think
the way they're going to do I think so too, I think why not?
Because they're sick of these people hanging out in Cal open
to the open the channel. So just get a big channel thing with a
bunch of boxcars on it and load them in German style into
boxcars.
I'm thinking show title, open the channel.
Open the channel. And I think that woman is that we heard on
the last show saying brick it up. I think she was onto
something. Yeah. That's what I would do if I were the French.
And that was irked about all this thing and get these people
out of chat at Callay. They say look, everybody want to go we're
gonna have one train. We're gonna have two three trains.
We're going to ship them over there. Get on if you want to go
on to otherwise get out of town.
There was no there was no news video, but there was an
Instagram video that was doing the rounds. A couple of Brits as
they were driving from Canada Day from France and getting
ready to go through the channel. And it was mayhem. There were
you know, the migrants were throwing rocks at cars, cops
were shooting tear gas. They'd be other people all over the
road there swerving around just to get into the channel. It's
frightening. I know I was my response to wow. In Europe it's
so hard to believe so hard. A little entre mom just typically
now we have a new producer, pm UK. And I've been playing his
stuff at the end of the show for the past couple of weeks. He
always seems to come up with them. They're about a minute
long. I'm gonna play this at the end. But I figured this time as
an exception also to honor him for the work he's doing one to
play his most recent one
next to the sausage, the conversations which is the most
critical tease what are the key referendum issues in Britain?
The sun has risen on an independent United Kingdom. We
may well be close to perhaps the next exit. Oh, I'm told the same
may apply to Sweden, Austria and perhaps even Italy do
I'll just declare independence day declare independence
I said before that Britain can survive outside the European
Union. And indeed we could find a way
of this like the geese
Yeah, well, I figured you like that.
Alright, let's play making an example of the UK one, which I
think is probably what is going to happen to deter people from
anyone else from doing this. They're gonna do that make an
example of the UK by screwing them
a clear message that Britain should leave as soon as possible
and should not be given any special treatment in order to
discourage other nations from following suit.
Personally, I'm very sad about this decision. But of course, we
have to respect say what is younger?
Yes, we
will stand strong out is out and uphold European Union's core
values, promoting peace and wellbeing being of its people's
union of 27 Member States will continue
from German Chancellor Angela Merkel there were questions
about what comes next classifying these as I mentioned
it in indecent toggle.
We don't know about the consequences of this stuff that
will appear within the next days, weeks, months and years.
That will depend on how we the other 27 members are able and
willing to react soon no quick new solution that we can take
from this referendum decision and that would only divide
Europe even more the old VITAS fight.
No Yeah, no yeah. Revenge Yeah, revenge is the German way. And
the French way. And the French
or the French Oh yeah, the French are kick ass. I always
forget that because you know the world war two kind of kind of
cover it up the kinder than anyone made
him look bad in the optics weren't too good. Well, for my
money, I think there's a lot of things in play the fact that
Cameron has said, Hey, I'm not going to sail this ship. I'm not
going to captain the ship. You can y'all go find somebody else
to do that, where you know, someone has to officially revoke
article 50 and get this thing moving. And typical EU the
policy very much like the Dutch referendum against the Ukraine
association agreement is thanks for your vote. Holland, you have
a Netherlands you have a problem with with ratifying and you're
not you haven't decided yet, whether you're going to listen
to the people, it doesn't matter. We're just going to
continue anyway, we don't need that to 28 of the 27 votes. So
I'm thinking they'll probably say, You know what, we're just
going to move forward by article 50 It's as good as done we're
starting to move ahead. It's just a technicality. I think
that's what it'll come down to Yeah, but Britain can reclaim
itself you the United Kingdom.
With Wilson
How long will the duo gonna have to? You're gonna die? Yes. And
that's probably that's what our basic thesis is? Yeah. I would
say that. The otherwise you're going to have to deal with the
separation Northern Ireland and Scotland and on the Scots or the
discus, or the first time because they should get rid of
those two countries. The Scots are the worst. They just are
disagreeable. They don't do anything that Brits want to do.
I mean, Northern Ireland's had a long history. This but the Scots
are the worst. They voted the other way. Of course, they want
to redo their split off vote. I mean, they first they voted to
stay with England, and then now they disagree with some so they
want to split off again. Who needs these people? Trump with
Trump? Yeah, Trump needs them. And they're the ones by the way,
mostly behind the wall. Scotland
has a lot of resources that are would be an issue. The oil
mainly Yeah, the oil. That's a problem. That's the problem with
Scotland.
But the so what the British had to sell the banking is they
don't lose their banking sector. That'd be fine. But the this the
Scots are the ones behind the Trump get keep Trump out of the
country that make sure he's you know, ban him from from the
island. Right. If you if you listen to the the I listened to
the the house the parliaments debate on Trump, and they it was
mostly Scots.
What I will say to our friends in the United Kingdom still get
no nation east. If you are forced into a do over or some
other version of not what the people voted for. Pay close
attention about what you can and cannot say in the European Union
what you can and cannot do this flows right into hate speech and
intolerance and you can't write Muslim suck on Twitter, you will
be arrested in the UK and that my friends is the real reason.
We have guns in the United States that insures our power as
citizens. You may not like what I'm saying you may disagree with
it, but I'm pretty sure we have not been mangled into the
societies that I see in Europe and have witnessed haven't lived
in because ultimately with 300 million guns yeah, there's a lot
of accidents that happen and bad stuff that happens but it
probably keeps us safe from what what the some people will call
the tyrannical government but you don't have to be tyrannical
just to tell people that hey, you can't say that wrong and
rescue or I'm sorry, your vote doesn't count. Doesn't matter
what you said.
I think it's an important distinction.
Well, I'm glad you're NRA curry adam@curry.com He's looking for
a consulting gig.
I just take some donations from him. Okay, well
the NRA should give us donations we after that little spiel
we need to use a different word than divorce though I don't like
the divorce
divorce this is not going to happen. I know what we call it.
Circumcision and bris okay. The brisket. The brisket brisket.
Branding is my middle name.
I want to take a break. Yeah, I'd
like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning
to you John C where the C stands for carnal cash DeVore Ag
in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry. Also in the morning all
ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air snobs in
the water. And all the days and nights out there
in the morning everybody in the chat room record numbers today.
John, we have more than twit usually has record numbers in
the chat. Ruben on the stream. Good to see you all here. No
agenda stream dog contouring it. Yeah. And everyone's civil. And
it's good. I'm liking it. I'm liking it. I'm liking it. Very
nice. Also, I would like to thank all of our artists but in
particular, I'd like to thank Mark G once again. He is back
and Mark G brought us the artwork for episode 836 Proof
she's human was the title of it. And the artwork that he brought
us so expertly was it was it was kind of a compilation piece and
it was like a swirling tornado as looked at from space where
the British flag in there was nice it was you know,
conceptual, the nice pink saucer to me. Yeah. Flying saucer.
Okay, also good.
Nice. That's what I was thinking.
All right, but no agenda are generated are calm. That's what
I was gonna say. Sorry.
Yeah, we actually have not been getting as much art as we'd
like. Yeah. So Benjamin Oliver starts heads a Listen, he's a
member to a 37 club, which is rare to have membership to these
in the show number of clubs much. And so we thank him for
that he's with a learner's $37 donation. And he writes in? Is
this where I donate to get on the no fly a watch list. Oh,
we have to talk about this for a moment. One of our producers who
sent in
for talking about this people, please listen to what Adam was
about to say. He sent
in a donation and the donation notes said, Hey, thank you so
much for finally giving me an explanation why our president
says ISIS and ISIL and others and we all say ISIS. And the
reason of course is it's the Levant, which includes Israel
and Israel be on the lookout, you might get screwed. But so he
put that in his donation note. And and so we got a note from
pizza gets put on hold and Pay Pal, which is all automated. By
the way, this was still not a single person, I don't think had
been involved in this email exchange. They said, Hey, we
have a problem. We need to know why this specific amount and I
think he did 414175 or something because it was the, the letters
ISIL on the keypad. And so why this amount specifically, and
why and please explain the the the line and it had his line
about ISIS ISIL then it's all because of compliance compliance
with the Office of foreign financial assistance, which is
Treasury which is making sure you're not sending money to the
terrorists, which would in this case, the no agenda show would
be suspected of that. So even though this will get cleared up,
we're definitely on the list. Please don't do this. It just
doesn't it just don't put the trigger words in there. It's
obvious. Well, I don't know what lists
wrong But it's definitely not the thing to do because it's
gonna get stopped and the money will not come to us. No, because
it's, you know, the just because you're using these words. And
just be careful what you write. Sorry, yes, but you're this is
not the US Mail where you can write it anything you want and
is protected. To some extent. It's known that all this
electronic stuff is all spied upon by all kinds of people and
different levels. I'm sure. NSA had a copy of that. But this
was this was still automatic. I mean, that's that was that's
what was interesting, because it was just purely algorithms
picking up some stuff pretty weak, by the way, because we get
a lot of people writing stuff without the actual trigger
words.
Yeah, so
anyway, can I please get a Brexit special jingle run, which
includes a fuck the EU, we're all gonna die stop rafting,
rafting. So he went, that's what he wants for his jingle. Ron.
Yeah. And he says, he's also a knight. So he'll be knighted.
And
also he will we haven't had one of these in a long time. He'll
be the sole member of the a three seven Club, which has not
happened in a long time. bump it up? Why are you laughing? Shut
up.
You've got karma?
No, I have a problem with the next donation and I'll explain
why. Is one of our regular donors. He's very famous night
in Virginia Beach Beach, Virginia. $333.33. He doesn't
want some karma. Sunshine and suede. He's,
I think he was you skipped over. And I'm sorry. Okay. I'm sorry.
My mistake. My mistake is an email. I didn't realize I'm
sorry.
He said in his email. He wants to be anonymous for this
donation. At some it was awkward. The way he said it,
because it's like he's yet to know. He wants to be anonymous.
And I'm thinking he's not anonymous. We know who he is.
But I put it in abeyance. If he straightens this out. I will
read this note, which is an email note on the next show. But
it was confusing the way he wrote his email and I want to
respect him. He wants to be anonymous. Maybe for some reason
right now. I don't know. Maybe he's, I don't know. All I know,
is it confusing? And so we will give him a karma and and then
we'll move on to more interesting notes. Actually,
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All right. Peter White and Cambridge Cambridge, Cambridge.
Sure. Great Britain. 33333. Yay, Brexit please. Finally night me
as this donation should take me way beyond the $10,000 marks are
Peter Shor Peter White Knight of Cambridge. And the was the Fens.
fens on you know what that means? might mean, UK it isn't.
I don't know. Well, nine have that figured out figured out
later. I've been listening to every show since number one. And
timing is everything. And so now it seemed like the right time to
step up. Hopefully you yanks will welcome us to the USA when
we arrived July 22 at Boston for a great tour of the United
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Oh, the fence offends Yes, yes, it's true here on the ground. I
have been completely open about voting Brexit in my champagne
socialist neighborhood in Cambridgeshire. Unless and until
I make my views clear, it is assumed that I'm a racist.
Yeah. Racist, old racist.
Talk is that the petition the petition reaching 2 million
signatures will trigger a second referendum. What bullshit.
Another big theme is that we should never have had this
referendum. As we the people are not qualified to decide on such
complex matters of national importance, more utter bullshit.
Unfortunately, oops, oops, we just lost my cursor.
Unfortunately, the Brexit is in many ways, a revolution to
replace one elite by another elite.
But at least we can remove
but at least we can replace our elected representatives which is
exactly what we can do in the EU. The a Brexit please finally
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damn damn Francine Hardaway in Phoenix, Arizona. She had
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sparks restaurant in New York. Yeah. I always thought she was a
New Yorker. I guess I'd receive
and maybe I think she relocated to Phoenix. I don't think she's
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at the end of the show. Okay, now we get one of these hugely
long notes which makes it almost impossible to read on my thing
Tony Cabrera in Hawthorne California. I think I may miss
this one here did I miss
let me see I got Yes sir. Rod. So rod Adams. Yes. Yeah, yes,
I can't see right sir rod that overrode that. So let's start
reading his note. And obviously you don't I don't have that on
my $200 Associate Executive in a long while since I've
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In addition to some important new pieces on atomic insights
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the UK and New cute nuclear energy industry.
And we'd like to congratulate sir rod with that first and
foremost that's great to have a shielded at Fortune. Yes. Hey,
can you can you have him like not blocked me if I have my ad
blocker on? Put me on the whitelist
You can get the there's a way to get into that. Anyway p s now
about he said Thanks for the good work now about the peds
part. Okay, here we go. So he's got a gripe, so let's hear him
out. John has made several very bigoted comments on at least two
different shows about officers in the US Navy. Apparently his
opinion is based on a brief encounter with a single poor
example when he was an air pollution inspector many decades
ago as a retired US naval officer retired in 2010. As a
commander, we spent 33 years living and working with naval
officers I'm annoyed, annoyed. It would be difficult to find
better examples of dedicated intelligent, interesting,
hardworking patriotic leaders anywhere. My daughter and her
husband are both Lieutenant commanders.
And my grandfather was Lieutenant Commander in the US
Navy in World War Two. Oh, was he a captain? Lieutenant
Commander?
No captain of a ship you can be a Lieutenant Commander be a
captain. No, he
was lieutenant commander. No captain. Okay, so he never He
did not he never He or the ship.
Anyway, he goes on and I just want to stop here because as far
as we need to really go Okay, let's see
what was what was his problem? What did you say? What was he
What were you so bigoted? And they
said they're a holes captains of most of these ships are a holes.
They act like a soul. They're arrogant, condescending jerks.
Now, I know rod here. Seems to have a being in the Navy, Navy
man. You've although I don't know if he was ever a captain of
a ship,
Rod. Robert, I think Rod was the commander of a submarine.
Oh, okay. Well, then he'd be a captain of the sea. If he was,
if he was the boss, he is
the captain of my ship.
First of all, what I was bitching about about the Navy
guys, is that they're condescending and arrogant. So
let's see what he says, Oh, let me read this. Apparently, his
opinion is based on a brief encounter with a single poor
example when he was in air pollution spectrum. That's an
interesting assumption to make. How about like 25? Guys, I was
an air pollution inspector for almost eight years, I ran into
these Navy guys over and over and over again, it's very
condescending on you to assume that it was one example that I'm
generalizing from. I'm generalizing from 20 Plus
examples. Every one of these guys now most of them, I have to
say we're like commander rank of commander. But their captains
have an oiler or some piece of crap that they used to park out
here in the San Francisco Bay. They always blow their stacks
and illegally at noon time, which is a good time, when were
you still working, but they thought there was at lunch,
let's do it, then. Then you go on board. They roll their eyes.
Oh, another government goon coming on just to give me a
ticket. And it was over and over again, extreme arrogance. I
brought it up to the rank and file of the of the group, many
of whom were ex navy. One guy and particularly one of the hot
shots was a chief petty officer at the time when he was in the
Navy. And he said, Oh, yeah, those those guys are all like
that. They're all a bunch of arrogant assholes. And that's
where this comes from. It doesn't come from and again,
this is very condescending, it does not come from a single poor
example. And this is what all you're doing rod is reflecting
what I'm talking about. Because that is extremely condescending
to say that I'm bringing it up as a generality from a single
poor example. This is not a single example. Done. John Cena
borax diva of the day.
And thanks for your contribution sir rod.
Wow, better give him some karma.
If you need a big heap of karma now. Thank you.
You've got karma. Well, my
experience with Lieutenant commanders was fine. I love my
grandfather. He was great. But he didn't drive the ship. Nor
did he park it there's nothing like someone railing against the
Navy. And part of that is they park the ship. It's just more
maybe Park.
I think that was great. I love it. I don't know this for sure.
But I think there's still you'd have to use pilots even the Navy
unless they have Navy pilots that
well, you know what, but I but I will the inroads defense
military in general along with police even EMS fire all these
types of services are no longer kept on the or put on the
pedestal the way they used to be and the way I believe they most
of them deserve to be. So it's there's a constant pounding
against all all things. Military. So then, you know, and
I'm happy that when he needed to vent he vented in the family.
That makes me Yes, fine. Yeah.
I mean, does everybody ain't his family they're all Navy Yeah, I
mean I know a lot of Navy guys are fantastic
and as an aside then I said that purposely it took me several
years to understand list it took me several years to get used to
your, your critiques. But sometimes after the show, you
know you'll go well this is stupid I don't like that never
do this. And instead of I had to learn this No, no, no, no, no
Don't tell me it's my personal experience is my experience. It
took me a while to learn that you know that doesn't mean that
you're mad at me for the rest of the day or anything it's like we
vent we're done we move on be in the same conversation we okay
we're done. agree disagree. Point counterpoint. Can be loud
can be vocal can contain F words and we're done and we move on.
And I like that a lot by the way that if only the world would
like that. Hey, it's bullcrap. I don't think it's a bum bum bum
and Okay, good. We're done. Move on. We're pros.
Yeah, well, that's what's
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and by the way, we're talking about Navy personnel real
heavy on the by the ways today. Ah,
she says die put down on the high on the list that's
terrible. Yes. Anyways but also blame the movies I mean you got
Mr. Roberts great movie that depicts the captain of the of
that ship as a complete a whole. And then there's the one where
the Humphrey Bogart plays the maniac of psycho which for some
reason is eludes me the name of it I take to vitamin B 12. You
know, I'm not the only one who's seen Navy captains as
Oh, we got your points. It's okay. It was the rant was good.
Can I can I don't want to ruin it. Now. Okay, onward. Yeah, do
we want to continue to talk about the Brexit anymore? I'm
kind of Young. I'm kind of done with the Brexit. For now.
This is anything really important that you can play this
one. This is France 24. We didn't play any of their clips.
They had an Oxford professor on the show. It kind of explained
the way he saw things and he was pretty reasonable in the French
girl was kind of like the fuddled by the whole thing. This
is France 24. On dumb Brits.
My view is that yes, we didn't, we didn't win on that one. And
the other issues he put on the table were important issues, the
immigration issue was important. And I, for example, do believe
that if the EU had shown a little bit more flexibility, and
thought of the possibility, say, of adding a sub paragraph to
article 45 of the treaty, which deals with the movement free
movement, if it has said, Look, actually, we'll have a second
paragraph, we said and member states may, under certain
circumstances, introduce their own domestic measures. without
prejudice, the principle
breaks that David Cameron got for seven years, because you
didn't get an emergency brake for a period of seven years, he
could really do like limit social benefits.
What he did not get was the right to control immigration, he
got the right to have very welfare benefits and so on. And
I just think that sort of just for the UK, I just think there
are countries around Europe, who would have benefited from a
little bit more flexibility in the interpretation of article
45. Well, those days, that's gone now. But when you look
at what is article
45. That's the free you can go anywhere you want. Freedom of
movement, gotcha.
A lot of people saying, you know, are these immigrants to
the UK necessarily a bad thing they pay more in taxes than they
take in benefits to
your numbers are sheer numbers. Do you know what we are now? We
have had in the last 10 years, four or 5 million extra people
in this country? Not
all, not all burry. But how many people have left Britain as
I'm talking about net population increase? That's an all from not
all from immigration. I mean, births can be basically
population, as you know, is around the world going on deaths
in plus or minus immigration. That's how you calculate. But
you know, there's no way this country can handle that sort of
thing. If we had, if France had population density, that was the
same as we have, you would have 100 million people extra in
France, that is real. So
something had to change, but will will leaving the
anyway. Yeah, we're done bridge. But this was the complaints. One
of the complaints I heard over and over, which was that the guy
that there was just too many it was, it was not as the guy one
guy said, Look, we could have 50,000 doctors coming over, but
there's no place to put them. There's not we'd have to We
can't build hospitals fast enough to put the doctor given
anything to do. And it was just an overload, which is, again,
what David Brooks said to was just an overload. That was the
immigration problem. It wasn't who they were it was the sheer
number. It's also who they were. It's there was that there's an
element of that. I don't know why they don't like to polish,
but the well because many, many reasons. Many reasons.
The main the main reason true or not, is the Polish are taken
away the you know, the cheap labor market. That's, that's
what they say.
Yeah. Well, it's still a quite. I think the whole thing is
definitely something to discuss. I'll say
okay, can we can we move to a new topic? Yeah, if you want.
Yeah. Judge Andrew Napolitano. Fox said something he was on
outnumbered. That's the show where there's one guy and a
whole bunch of women.
Yeah, which I like crazy. I like Talking about a sexist idea
to show yeah, of course, if you did outnumbered and did the
other way around it would be. And world war three, that would
actually
be funnier,
or have one black person surrounded by whites or
different versions of the show. It's not a bad format. He said
something about the Orlando shooting that I had to go back
and really study what he was talking about to see if I agreed
with his assertion. Here's the clip. How
many omissions were there? Were there one? Well, then it could
explain that one off scenario that they originally to tell
this is not a one off, right.
These are in two parts. There's an actual transcript and then
there's a summary or summary of the rest. Here's what's news in
the summary. Nobody died until 513. In the morning, when the
SWAT team entered prior to that no one had been killed, the 53
that were injured, and the 49 that were murdered, all met
their fates at the time of and during the police entry into the
building.
Wow. We've been Yeah, yeah. So I went back and
ghosted now this was we by the way, and I'll take credit for
this. You said by the way, I've always thought that police kill
most of the people Yeah, we said this several times. Yeah, yeah,
we talked about it but this is ridiculous. Nobody does this by
the way, right there. Yeah, I'm gonna just change topics Yeah,
whole thing you did a good job at transitioning. Yeah, yeah.
What
what what what this by the way? What? Yeah, you
know what?
I know what it looks like the way you stop. Yeah.
But he died until 513 In the morning when the SWAT team
entered.
So I went back and I had to look at the timeline from the
official the to the redacted and the other transcript you really
have to put the to
play that clip that I had of the shootings, the bullets and the
all those bullets that went off at once during that one guy was
recording that five, the SWAT team shootings.
I don't know what it was called. Yeah, well, okay. But I went
back and I looked at transcript I'm trying to figure out how the
peloton came to this conclusion. And here's the timeline. I'm
reading directly from the documents marked up in the show
notes 837 dot no agenda notes.com 202. I am Orlando
Police Department called transmitted multiple shots fired
at the Pulse nightclub. Two minutes later. Certainly not
time enough to kill 49 people at 2:04am additional OPD officers
arrive on scene 2:08am offers for officers from various law
enforcement agencies made entrance to pulse and engage the
shooter and then at 218. So that was that must have been 10
minutes there. Then there's a whole bunch of things the phone
call and then there's some transcripts to 48 the first
crisis negotiation call for nine minutes 303 The second call 324.
The third crisis call. In these calls he he identified himself
so they were on the phone with him continuously from 248 until
continuing until 5:14am. This is if their timeline is correct,
which is I'm going to presume it is just before that they pull
the air conditioner and they start saving people and then at
429 the shooter said he was going to put four vests with
bombs on victims within the next 15 minutes. He said there's a
car outside that's gonna blow up and then at 5:02am OPD SWAT O C
S O hazardous device team start to breach the wall with
explosive charge armored vehicle to make entry 5:14am OPD
radiocommunication stated that shots were fired so there was
between 502 When they breached the wall and 514 shots were
being fired based on here it is here's the line that makes all
of this because you just don't know if what was happening in
between these the timeline entry points based on Orlando Police
Department radiocommunications there were no reports of shots
being fired installed inside pulse between the initial
exchange of gunfire between responding officers and shooter
and the time of the final breach. During this time the
shooter communicated with an OPD 911 operator and OPD crisis
negotiator and OPD radiocommunications reported
that victims were being rescued. So they're saying that from the
time they they engage the shooter to when they killed him.
No shots were fired at all. Do I think the judge has a point
here? I think he may have that whole thing there Yeah. So you
know some somebody's got some splainin to do on that well
that's not going to happen and also just finally the there were
multiple reports that the that Omar Mateen was frantically
searching the internet for psychosis results of the
psychotic drugs etc etc so as we always see or almost always see
in these types of and these types of events you know,
there's a when you have an SSRI involved it's stuff that makes
people really nutty and we bet a lot of these going back to
Columbine a lot of these shooters are on psychotropic
drugs on thing Yeah, which which is which is a real problem Wow,
yeah.
That's dynamite. Yeah.
I know you won't hear that anyplace else. Boy you heard it
on Fox I mean, it's not as though as nobody's heard this
nobody else's nobody else will propagate it make sense to me
like I said this when I had that clip that shootings and all that
guts gunfire was 1000s of bullets just flying around if
you were in there you're gonna get hit by some there was just
too much going on just a man I don't want to sound like a like
a jerk about the police. But I can almost imagine in some
jurisdictions that you know say hey, would you want to go do
what you want to shoot some gays
reminds me of a clip. I gotta play this. So you said famously,
at this point, the few shows ago you talked about the gays which
Donald Trump you know I obviously listener
picked up gays picked up
the gays and Milo
Jana flop and do Perlis the the out that the gay Republican from
Britain How could you get any any crazier is
crazy that guy? He is a really good public speaker?
Yes. Well, here he is on. One of my gripes, of course, is this
Hulk and the President just bestowed the stone wall as a
national monument of stone walls where there were riots and gays,
lesbians trans transsexuals, were killed. And so now this has
this become this is now a national monument. And then it's
always for the LGBT community. And I have a huge issue with
that. Because first of all, it's exclusionary, exclusionary,
because LGBT would be lesbian, gay, bisexual, and trans.
Where's the bike? Curious, where's the queer? Where's all
that other stuff? I mean, he does not sum up everybody. It
just doesn't sum everybody up. And within these groups, there's
all kinds of issues amongst themselves. They are far from an
actual community like, well, I'm telling you a second, here's my
low with what you should really say instead of LGBT or LGBT Q or
LGBTQ Qi a P IAP. He suggests
we don't use that phrase, the LGBTQ community, what is wrong
with you? Well, as I said, when I said we used to call them gays
to say the gays after you appeal to the gays, or you can call
them queers, you can call them chutney punches, you can call
them bum bandits, you can call them off of any number of
things. We do not use the phrase LGBTQ community, Mike our
guards.
There you have it from the gay himself, prove out
how to tell this to my critics.
And just one more thing about the word community. No agenda is
a community. But if you looked at all the people individually,
no way would they fit in the classic sense of the word
community. We have different ages, different races, different
beliefs, different religions, different political views, all
kinds of very, very different, but the community comes around.
One is the show, really the community comes around and that
is a true community where we're not all you know, a version of
homosexual. So I agree this this community is overused. What is
the definition of community really?
When he looked at Apple I asked a rhetorical question. Why was
it so? This was this is gay, gay day. Here are the weekends could
Gay Pride weekend. Oh, and there was started off on third Friday
with the transgender March and then there was a gay pride
parade and there's what was Obama doing in town? Was he in
town? He was in town on Friday. As far as I know, celebrating, I
think he left on Saturday, but he's here for some reason or
other definition of
community, a group of people who live in the same area, city,
town or neighborhood. Yes, I think that is a classic, a
classic definition. A group of people who have the same
interests, race, religion, etc. Yes. But LGBT, the L, the B, the
G and the T all have different interests. It could also be a
group of nations or a unified body of individuals. But
commonly it is the people with common interests living in a
particular area. So it doesn't even really fit when you think
about it. Good, because I'm tired of hearing it.
Yeah, you've been you've
made it quite clear over the last four or five shows. Yeah,
but I'm still interested.
Yeah. Good. I'm glad to hear that.
All right, I got one. But about Bob. This is kind of
interesting. This is a one to one story follows the other on
democracy. Now. I just found this to be a fascinating one two
punch. This first clip is Sanders last stand on homeless
kids. This is Bernie Sanders is now out there really ranting
about one thing or another. It's very important to him. And I
thought this was a good rant.
We cannot allow ourselves to become used to the fact that we
got hundreds of 1000s of children in this country who are
homeless. That is our greatest danger of becoming used to it
and thinking that it is normal. It is not normal. It is an
outrage. And never, ever lose your sense of outrage. Whoa,
whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Now, now, right after that little spiel they're talking
about Bernie's going out with a bang. And I thought that was a
very good little lecture when she pitched. So then they go on
to just a follow up because they just do their organization at
that place that news base and flow is really awkward. This
goes right on to this clip here, which is just like, oh, since
we've been talking about elites, let's play this.
Meanwhile, a number of business leaders have come out backing
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton among
those backers are Facebook, Sheryl Sandberg and Warren
Buffett as well as the CEOs of General Motors, Delta Airlines,
air b&b AT and T and Boeing. Ah.
You, Bernice.
Oh, gee, that's not just a vocal support, I'm sure. Wow, I wonder
if there's any money involved in that? Oh, yes. We need to read
this. Although you may have already seen it. We may have
talked about it. The if you wanted Hillary Clinton to speak
at your bank? She had the you have the her agency or booking
agent? Which was the the Harry Walker agency. Is that a
literary agent as well?
No, that's the speech. She was speaking. I actually worked for
them. I've worked for Harry Walker. Oh, great operation.
Well, sure.
Have you seen this? This message they send if you want to have
come to a speech for a
lot of money floating around? Yeah, I got a kick out of it.
So I'll just read a couple of
highlights. Just read the whole thing. It's a dynamite.
Okay, well, good. Now this interesting about this, the
timeline. And this is dated May 31 2013, only a few months after
she left. She left of course in February after the inauguration
as Secretary of State. So this request had already come in. I'm
sure it was not the first one. So thank you very much for your
your possibly invitation of Secretary Clinton participating
your upcoming event. Here's the standard requirements for her
appearances. The fee for this type of event. Excuse me, the
fee for this type of event would be $225,000 plus a chartered
round trip private jet hotel accommodations, ground
transportation any meals and incidentals for Secretary
Clinton, her travel aides and advanced staff as detailed
below. So let's take a look at these air transportation. The
hosts will be responsible for the cost associated with a
chartered round trip private air transportation, which must be a
Gulfstream 450 or larger. Wow. Yeah, that's a that's a nice,
nice. This I'm gonna stop you right now. I want to remind
people that when Hillary was asked why she got so much money
from Goldman Sachs 225,000 is listed here. Why she got so much
money and she her answer was that's what they offered. No,
that is a lie. That is a lie. The offer is clearly stated in
the letter. So the transportation the jet and which
must be paid in advance of the event. In addition, the host
will need to pay for one round trip first class airfare between
New York and Washington DC for one of Secretary Clinton's
travel aides might be Uma. The host will also need to pay for
two round trip business class airfare to and from the event
city for two advanced staffers who will arrive in the city of
the engagement for up to three business days prior to the event
accommodations, hotel accommodations, which will be
the ones identified by Secretary Clinton staff accommodation
should include a presidential suite for for Secretary Clinton,
then up to three adjoining or contiguous single rooms for
travel aides and up to two additional single rooms for the
advanced staff. And by the way, for a couple of days, and I said
by the way, dammit, for the presidential suite, the
presidential suite is like 30 grand a night. Yeah, certainly
if they if someone else is paying for it. Then there's
meals and incidentals. So responsible for all ground
transportation for the Secretary, her aides and
advanced staff as long as Oh, phone chargers, cell phones,
meals, everything. And here's a very interesting little ditty.
Transcription, the host will be responsible for a flat fee of
$1,000 for the services of the onsite stenographer who will be
responsible for creating an immediate transcript of
Secretary Clinton's remarks. The agency will be we'll coordinate
all of the arrangements for the Staats demographer we will be
unable to share a copy of the transcript following the event.
So that's nice. We know that apparently transcripts were
made. So here's the itinerary she does it to basic blocks when
she participates in event, total time, 90 minutes 30 minute photo
line reception not to exceed 50 photos with up to 100 people
that's moving through that's like the queen, the Queen of
England does that exactly the same? Then the Secretary will
hold a 20 minute speech plus a 40 minute moderated q&a for a
total of 60 minutes. So her speech should we ever see a
transcript will only be 20 minutes. And it's going to be a
stock speech, filling in the blanks different joke at the
beginning different joke in the middle, a different goodbye or
transition. That's the way I see it. You've done more of these
than I have John. So I'm saying 20 minute speeches. What is a 20
minute speech? Oh, my goodness, we don't get much of a speech,
you don't even get into the news before 20 minutes of the show
was fast, we did three hours. So the order of the tiers is up to
your preference. But the location of the photo line must
be in close proximity to the room where the speech take takes
place. And they have to the two blocks have to be contiguous. We
have limited flexibility with regard to the format for
appearance accordingly, Secretary Clinton will not be
able to join for meals or other functions or engagements outside
the photoreception speech in the q&a, which is understandable
because man is that annoying when you have to do that. You go
to his speech, like we gotta have dinner. And then there's
some rules about who can introduce her. When the when the
team will show up, and then please let me know. But once
you're ready to proceed with a formal invitation, please take a
moment to complete the Attach questionnaire email back to me,
as I noted earlier, the approval process can take a couple of
weeks. But in order to respond, we must your invitation.
Obviously, to ensure this opportunity is considered in a
time efficient manner, it is important that every financial
and inkind sponsor contributing to the fee or receiving a
non-fan financial benefit, for example, getting the opportunity
to introduce Secretary Clinton or moderate the q&a be submitted
during the invitation stage. So it all has to be it's like it's
a big proposal now. For celebrities of of her stature,
and it definitely is a celebrity, I think it is pretty
much on par for a big celebrity who's out to make a crapload of
money. And famously, Bill Cosby would do three events an evening
in New York City, and he would walk from one to the other. And
and this is now we're talking to 80s he would get paid $100,000
Go to the next one. You know, turn the chair around, talk for
an hour, another $100,000 And you do $300,000 In a night. I
don't think it's crazy money in the world in this type of world
for a celebrity to be paid that. But for the amount of work.
This, of course is what the issue is and what she may or may
not have said. But you're going to find out that most people say
Holy crap, really, you 20 minutes that's you got paid for
this, and not taking into account the q&a and whatever
else might have gone on. But there are transcripts because
someone paid $1,000 To have a transcript made so they
definitely are available.
Well, I think it's very high. I think it's so high to the point.
Yes, I do. I think it's to the point. I mean, yeah. Well for a
while Bill Clinton was doing 250 And then all of a sudden he
jacked it up to 500. I think it's God knows what. There's no
doubt in my mind at that. The the, the amount of money being
collected and and all the extra work that goes into a dub, you
know, $30,000 hotel room. I mean, this is a bribe. Yeah. As
far as I'm concerned, well,
I'm not going to disagree. I'm not going to disagree. It's
just okay. This is the way she's gonna get her money. And this
guy always goes through Harry Walker so they get dog Harry
Walker gets a piece of that job salutely. And I think they get I
think most speakers bureaus take 20% Hold on their property
probably negotiated, the lower because Hillary needs the money
more. And but this is, this is a bribe.
Speaking of bribes, and this may answer some of our questions
about elites. Fifi Lagarde was interviewed on BBC is Hard Talk,
stop. Hold on eat. Yes.
I just want to tell you, she's an elite, if you didn't know.
Yes, that's what I said.
She's an elite. And BBC Hard Talk, did some hard talk very,
very proud of the questions asked, because she's not
entirely clean. There's a lot of scandal floating around Miss
Lagarde of the International Monetary Fund, who, by the way,
is the one who quite vocally said all the economists say do
not leave do not Brexit. This is crazy. This is crazy. Why would
you go against all of why would you go and go against all of
these, these different economists? Now you can't do
that? So a couple clips, you
say you're trying to do work here at the IMF, you talk about
the need for global leadership. Let me ask you a very personal
question, how much how much tax? Do you pay on your salary?
Like all IMF staff members, and all World Bank staff members? We
are tax exempt, and that is taken into account. But I do pay
tax? Don't worry, because
no, but your salary is tax exempt. And I know it's not
because you insisted it be that way. It's always been that
way. But how do you know why it is just tax? She's going to
explain Do you have any idea why her salaries tax?
I'm riveted.
Bottom line is this if you want to be a leader on this, and it
sounds to me as though you have the passion and you want to be a
leader that's going to have to change, aren't you going to have
to make a stand and say, You know what? It's not acceptable
to to be a leader and to send a message which says, Oh, well, I
want everybody else to pay tax. But actually, I don't pay tax,
you shouldn't pay tax should tell you there
is there is first of all, I do pay tax in, in salary. On on
other matters.
My yacht tax on horrible real estate taxes, just disgusting,
very substantial salary.
Even this is an easy and easy little fight to pick, okay, why
all international staff people are tax exempt, wherever located
in the world, it's to avoid that, under the pressure, and
under the authority of local tax people, then they be asked to
move in one direction or the other. And this tax
independence, if you will, is factored in the determination of
compensation. I'm not, you know, arguing for it. It's been around
for 70 years in the case of the IMF many more years for other
institutions. Otherwise, otherwise, you fall prey to
whatever those local government where the institutions have a
seat actually decide to do against you.
Yeah, I just wonder whether you can see my point that there is a
bit of a perception problem with leaders such as yourself,
preaching the message that tax avoidance has to end. And yet
well, what
the only thing that would be compatible with the principle,
which is critically important that there'd be no pressure
applied by the local authorities where these organizations have
their seat would be some international measures that
would apply across the board, irrespective of the local
authorities. And that's precisely the point that is
wrong about taxation. By the way, everything is global,
except tax. Oh,
wow. Nice little
kicker at the end. So it's almost like a threat.
So when I hearing she's here saying is big, the IMF, just
kind of saying that the people aren't would be corrupted,
because they might make decisions for or against their
own personal situation. Is that what I understood?
I think it was also they could be intimidated. They could be it
would be a form of threat. It is a form of manipulating them. Now
good. Let's stop where's the IMF located?
Washington DC hat, Washington, DC, Manhattan, Washington DC.
They if you look at where they're really located, they are
very close to the Treasury. They have eyes on the White House and
they have eight floors underground or something like
that some crazy ass building.
So who is this local authority? She makes it sound like they've
got an office in Podunk. Rue In the mountains someplace, and the
locals are going to take their money, right? Unless they, you
know, cough up something. This is nonsense.
No, but what I like the most is their little kicker at the ends,
like, Oh, this is a problem, local tax, we should have a
global tax. That's what we need. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's the
plan. Fifi had some problems when she was Finance Minister to
France, there were some issues about something she did for a
buddy of hers right
now, a French court has ordered you to face trial on a charge of
negligence involving a complicated payment to a leading
French businessman. During the time you were French finance
minister in the administration of Nicolas Sarkozy, it just
strikes me in the context of everything we've discussed about
leadership, about integrity, about sending the right messages
to the world about the best that global capitalism can be, then
it's very difficult for you to continue in this job, when you
might be summoned to a trial in Paris.
No, it's not. And I function very well. And I'm very grateful
for the trust that has been expressed to me by this
unanimous support of the international community. The
court decision has been appealed. The matter will take
its course the lawyers are doing the job. I know that there is
nothing wrong. That will be held against me. Oh, Keoki
you're starting to get a picture of why people don't like the
elites. Now to Tom liberally
says no, no problem. It's almost like they guy in a Monty Python
movie. No, just just a scratch.
Just as silly walls aren't
just a scratch. Now to compete with your outstanding Hillary
Clinton fine,
so I made a mistake. That happens that proves I'm human.
Yeah. Which of
course proves she's a lizard. Now I do you think Lagarde is a
lizard?
Oh, definitely. You're
setting also long ago that you need a skin as thick as an old
crocodile to do this job. What did he mean? What did he mean by
that is skin as thick as an old crocodile?
Well, over the course of time, you have to learn how to greet
your teeth and smile. Don't let the bastards get you. And that's
what I mean by having a thick crocodile skin. But the nice
thing is that you can take it off. You could take it off.
I want to thank Jim Lee Jack, by the way, our producer for
putting this together for me did the clips and everything typed
up a couple of them. But it was great. Really appreciate it.
Excellent. Here's the final one. This is well, this is regarding
the Panama Papers.
Boston Consulting Group reckon that private wealth booked in
offshore centers grew by 7% in 2014, is going back a bit to
reach $11 trillion. So that's money that is not being taxed,
that is not going through the state national governments to
pay for roads and hospitals and education because it is being
we're all the way offshore and tax is not being paid. Is it in
your view, time to get together with national governments with
leaders around the world to close down the offshore highly
secretive, tax havens, whether they be in the Caribbean, the
Channel Islands, stateless in Europe, wherever they may be.
You know, I remember 2010 When I was finance minister for France,
and together with the president at the time, we launched that
campaign. And it was a very difficult one of trying to
eradicate some of those tax havens.
Well, that's a failure.
And no, I disagree with you. I disagree with you. I'll tell you
why. Because many governments not all, but many governments at
the time, endorsed the project and said, Okay, we need to deal
with this. And what is called the BEPS, which is this funny,
not so funny base erosion and Profit Shifting project has been
undertaken, has been endorsed by many economies, applies to
corporates in the main and I think that's an area where it
needs to be made universal as should be made universal, the
automatic exchange of information between countries.
But the problem of it is that everybody has to be part of it.
Because if you have little holes in the system, well, you know,
creative thinkers and tax optimizers and, and there are
plenty of those and they have great minds and great
imaginations will find ways it needs to it needs global
leadership. It needs to be totally comprehensive, and it
needs to include the implementation arm of it,
because I'll tell you, we are doing a lot of work in that area
when we do technical assistance on anti money laundering.
New World Order global taxes global financial system Yeah,
that's gonna be a while. Yeah, but at least you know, where the
elites are really headed what they're thinking.
Of course they will they dolla knees, a little piece of that
action system Matter stealing money from the public anyway I
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to remove child pornography from the internet. Well, this is not
going to be used for speech. That's
right. So we've developed technology over the last year
that technology it's about do want to point out he's a vocal
fry technology. That's right. So we've developed technology over
the last year that allows social media companies and technology
companies to find and remove terrorist related content and
this same technology has been used in the past to remove child
pornography from sites. And it's a very effective technology, it
works fully automatically. It's efficient, it's accurate. And it
allows technology companies to effectively enforce what is
already in place, which is their terms of service that this
content is not allowed on their network. And we are simply
creating for them a mechanism to enforce that in an automatic,
efficient and accurate way.
I just want to point out this mirrors the language in the net
neutrality regulations, it's not allowed on the on the network.
It's it's not legal, it's illegal content not allowed on
the network. Also illegal network traffic,
automatic, efficient, inaccurate way a post comes up, it stays
online for a while somebody reports it, it comes down, it
pops up over here. And we were saying once you've removed it,
you now have technology to never allow it. What's the pushback?
Then? You have to ask them that? I don't know. I don't actually
understand what the pushback is to be honest with you.
I don't know free speech, maybe could that be some of the
pushback? And how does it?
What's the definition?
Yeah, that's the right question to ask. I think the role of the
government here would be terrific as a broker to bring as
an honest broker to bring in the academics, the NGOs and the
technology company, let's
I want to highlight this. He's saying to determine what is not
okay. We need to bring in the government
broker to bring in the academics, the NGOs and the
technology companies together, and to create a sense of urgency
on this problem. So I can see them as being a very important
partner in this. But at the end of the day, the technology
companies have to decide we no longer want this content on our
network. It is harmful for the network. It is harmful for
society, and it's harmful for the world. And we should
eliminate it you will hear slippery slope arguments that if
we do this, we will eventually banned videos of kittens. They
made child porn which is sort of stunning. Well, it's true that
when we were deploying say what
a slippery slope but this is like a false analogy. Then we're
gonna ban kittens. This is nonsense. That's not what's
gonna happen. No, but this is how you write the whole thing
off this guy's what he should do is go over to Tumblr if you want
to take care of sums get keep yourself busy. Well, that
would be Yahoo. I'm sure there'll be a customers we will
eventually banned videos of kittens. They made over child
porn, which is sort of stunning. It is true
that when we were deploying the child pornography technology we
heard eat this exactly the same concerns, which I found
indefensible. We are not talking about stifling
this bull crap who is concerned about the racing child porn. Oh,
you're gonna it's gonna get started raising kittens. If
you're raising my child, that guy supposed to be in jail who
posted the child porn. This is nonsense. This guy's just ad
libbing.
We are not talking about stifling speech. We are not
talking about stifling dissent, we are talking about taking off
videos that show violent beheadings that show calls to
violence. These are extreme as we call them, the worst of the
worst. We absolutely should have dissent on the internet, we
should absolutely have discussions on the internet. But
there's no place in my mind. pictures and videos of young
children being sexually assaulted. And if people's
having their heads chopped off. I think that's where we
reasonably can draw the line. That's not to say that we
shouldn't have serious conversations about what does
and what does not constitute extremist speech. We do have to
have a serious conversation about that. And we have to have
all the players at the table.
Can't wait, can't wait, what is extremist speech? What could it
be who's going to determine what you can and can't say? All I can
say is come together and say?
Now normally, with Mary McCoy, I would normally complain about
you producing a segment using one of our things for the punch
line. But you know, I love that song.
I have to admit, there was a chat room suggestion. Oh, I
know. Daniel makes it worse than it
makes it worse. Yes.
Let's see if I got I got
one. One thing might be my last clip. Okay. I just thought you
remembered Trump early on as in his thing, he fired one of his
guys long time ago. And this guy kept showing up on TV. I
was the guy who was really nice about it. Like hey, it's all
fine.
Okay. Oh, apparently the set that works so well. That we're
now going to have a Lewandowski or whatever this guy's name is.
Let's play the Lewandowski clip. I went all brother these are
these networks so stupid to buy into this.
Meanwhile, the former Trump campaign manager Corey
Lewandowski has been hired by CNN as a political commentator.
He was fired two. He was charged with Pottery in March after
surveillance footage showed him grab Bing reporter Michele
fields field said Lewandowski left bruises on her arm. The
charges were later dropped.
Wow. Put the shield right into the lion's den. Fantastic.
Unbelievable. Dum
Dum fantastic. And Dallas key is just as total shills do Gemini
weather is even really fired or who's given this assignment.
As great as a great well,
I'll play my day.
I'll play my last clip. I saw it mentioned several times.
Luckily, someone was able to clip it because it wasn't easy
to find this is Charlie wrangle. He's a senator or congressman
rango
is a congressman who grew up in New York censored censored by
the by the Congress sent
short or censored censured. What does that mean? You can shout to
shut up he
was not a lazy. It doesn't really mean anything legally.
But it does mean that he's snubbed. Because he broke a
bunch of rules.
It's like a grownup version of timeout.
Only probably worse.
When Stuart
he was caught by the journalist in the halls and talking about
guns of course. Oh, before we before I played the clip, I'm so
sorry. This is very important. A we got a great a great email
from our insider, a Republican staffer in Washington says no
agenda producer who was a staffer, I've no idea what he or
she, who he or she works for, but definitely for a Republican
and and sent some thoughts, insider thoughts from the you
know, the sit in the Democrats did. And we're Periscoping out
on the interwebs. And John out of a few quick insights on the
gun bills first off due to the citizen forcing Ryan to go ahead
and wrap up the week in the middle of the night. I got two
extra days of recess. Most of my office went home early Thursday.
And then on Friday, we spent most of the day watching movies.
So hats off to my DEM colleagues for providing the break from
work, hashtag love and light. Secondly, as John stated on
Thursday, the main bill that was being called for was the no fly
bill. This bill failed in the Senate on Tuesday with 53
Republican votes. In other words, it failed because it
received no response. No report, no support from the Senate
Democrats. So their own party didn't even support the bill. No
one in the media has mentioned this. Therefore, of course, it
was dead on arrival in the house, even if there was a vote,
which there couldn't have been because the sister bill in the
House failed to pass in committee. The media also does
not report on this. But what's interesting is that while the
asks from the protesters were all over the place, and it
seemed terribly unorganized. What we discovered from
colleagues on the other side was that the DNC had a massive and
somewhat organized mailing campaign during the 25 hour
protests for donations. Our colleagues said they nailed
their fundraising quota for the quarter overnight. And that's
what it was all about.
Suckers.
Big Ass sagas. So Charlie wrangle is asked about you know,
about citizens having guns for protection. Uh, he's from New
York. So the question is, hey, Ward, actually, the statement
from the reporters you'll hear is, you know, it's very hard to
get a concealed carry license in in New York, the only people who
seem to be able to get it are celebrities, powerful
politicians and other people who have bribed the police
department is basically her assertion. wrangles answer,
particularly at the end was very interesting.
New York City concealed carry proof is so rare and the only
people who tend to get it or the very connected very wealthy or
if you happen to know the right guy in NYPD
but I know what you're trying to say. Corruption is corruption is
bad. Okay. But but but about that
for a second, why shouldn't say the Uber wealthy who who have
protection handed protection but individuals who are law abiding
citizens in your district should know, are law abiding
citizens just shouldn't have to carry a gun, you know that so
you're not going to push me in that direction,
but you're protected by guns all over the place here at the
Capitol.
Well, I think we need protected down here.
he corrected himself but we know what he was thinking we deserve
protection. Yeah, definitely said definitely. Definitely a
douchebag. That's how they're thinking. I think we've done a
pretty good description of elites today on the show, John,
I feel pretty good. So I feel like I feel pretty good about
that. Actually. Everyone should feel good about the whole thing.
Always feeling good.
Mental Hygiene. Okay.
We have a special for the streamers. There will be a
Daniel Luce song here and the In the final bits, but we may not
put it in the final edit of the show. Just so you know John, I
can hear your brains crunchy.
I know I understand exactly what what you're thinking. Okay. All
right.
So thank you all very much for tuning in, especially on the
stream record numbers today. Good to see you all there
continue remembering us for your support@divorce.org slash na. We
appreciate the support that comes in all shapes, forms,
matters, etc. And I'll be back in the regular studio in the
skyscraper. Until then, coming to you from the air stream of
consciousness in McKinney Falls State Park for field day in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and not from McKinney Park. But from Northern Silicon Valley.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Thursday right here on no agenda. Adios mofos.
But at the end of the day, they're backing, you know,
they're backing Come on,
at the end of the day, at the end of
the day, John, if someone wants to get anyone they can get, get
at the end of the day. And at the end of the day, it's more
important that we have entertainment. At the end of the
day, at the end of the day, who's going to pay for the real
loan, it's going to be taxpayer money at the
end of the day. And
at the end of the day, that's going to be up to Valerie
Jarrett. At the end of the day, I mean, at the end of the day
isn't that at the end of the day,
at the end of the day, all this money is owed to bankers
at the end of the day, but at the end of
the day, I think it's good. At the end of the day, and at the
end of the day, as Americans, what we always do is we always
say at the end of the day and so at the end of the day, it's not
actually the health care, it's the at the end of the day and
then the day, at the end of the day, you can't deny I had to put
less gas in at the end of the day to the end of the day. We're
all anti Semites at the end of the day and at the end of the
day you get I think it's 4% at the end of the day for us to run
together at the end of the day you kind of forget right at the
end of the day the day that John you and I are both in the
audience of Business at the end of the day
at the end of the day. So at the end of the day she could say hey
I told you so at the end of the day the day but I would say at
the end of the day sir once I think ever ladies and gentlemen
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