Do you need an E ticket for that?
Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak. Sunday, March 27 2016. time once again for your Gitmo
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I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where everything's over
modulated. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Greg. isn't that bad? Am I just booming through on your end?
Yeah, I could deal with it.
I don't know what to tell you. Is it over modulated or is it
just loud?
It's just loud. Loud now. Okay. Well, if you just modulate is
not over over modulated means distorted storage.
Right? So it's on your end I can't help it good.
Well, it's all it's all explained by the weird ISO clip
that I have.
Is that what we're gonna do right off the bat? Yeah, okay.
Would it say weird ISO because I can't find that. Oh, I have it.
I got it. I had there's only one so this must be it. Does it need
to set up? No, I am the principal on I love you. We love
you. Oh boy. Is this about millennials and safe spaces.
This is about something that wasn't the clip by the way was
an ISO. Yeah, it was a good one two.
Wasn't the one you wanted? That's even interesting. More
interesting.
I have a bunch of ISOs today today's ISO day. Okay. screw
ball ISO that's what it is. I don't even know where to start.
screw ball ISO group all ISO
will do that off the bat
fact that they both have unpronounceable Italian names
appears to be the theme that in meat meat
meat out what
was that from?
That was discussing the the I guess it's a Monterey Peninsula
Wine and Food Festival. They have a couple of they have all
these little things you can sign up for is gi theory and some
other Italian guys or you have special seminars. And so that
was the Iso I just heard the ice. I'm flipping through stuff
as Oh, that's too good. Yeah,
I think they need to go together though. You kind of need to do
it. The fact that they both have unpronounceable Italian names
appears to be the theme that and meet and wash your hands after
touching any raw meat. Think that
works. Ah yes, I think so.
We have it together.
Ah, well, okay, well, that's a start.
Well, since we will be talking about unfriendliness to women,
undoubtedly on this programme today. I wanted to put a little
things in context. The keeper and I, you know, we'd sometimes
we we realise that we have certain cultural things that we
like. And we discovered that we both had watched a lot of Elvis
movies when we were kids.
already funny. Yeah. It
is. And I apologise I actually in hindsight, it probably should
have clipped it. But so we decided to if it was a Saturday
afternoon, let's watch a Elvis movie. We chose Blue Hawaii. Now
the reason I bring this up, you'll recall the last time we
went back and looked at an old movie was Breakfast at
Tiffany's, which is heralded as new Audrey Hepburn the best
piece of work ever. And it's a screwball crazy as stupid as a
movie. And you kind of agreed to that. Do you recall Blue Hawaii
by Elvis at all? Vaguely. So it opens up he's coming back from
the army. He's been gone for two years. He lands in Hawaii. He's
the plane doors open. Yes, the steps down on the tarmac. His
girlfriend is waiting. He's making out with the stewardess
looking at his girlfriends and Hey, baby, I was just fooling
around. And she goes okay, it was as okay, they go wrong. And
then he's throwing her in the water. He's tripping around the
beach. 17 year old spanking them spanking them. And then the
girls sit down on a pillow later and say, Oh, yes, I'll be much
better now. is unbelievable. The whole movie is one big
misogynistic piece of crap. I hadn't. I don't recall it that
way.
What did the keeper think that she will remember that way? No,
no, she must have been outraged. No,
we were both jaws dropped like holy crap. We've come a long
way. Elvis was just a dick. In this movie, at least in this
movie is made in 1963. So of course that was the year before
I was born even. But I encourage everybody just watch that just
the opening sequence and you can flip through it. But boy,
Hollywood was mean towards women 50 years ago, 52 years ago.
Yeah, well Yeah, 52 years ago, yeah. Okay, well, I suppose if
you went back 80 years ago, I'd be worse.
Yeah, probably. But this is within my lifetime. So I say,
you know, you're only one. No, I was zero. I was minus one
wasn't within your lifetime. Hello. Okay. But it was not even
within your lifetime this movie.
I saw it within my lifetime. That's
my Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. When
I when I was old Charlie
Chaplin films too, but yeah, exactly. Exactly. I think a lot
of the Elvis movies were misogynist. I think a lot of the
stuff from the 50s What year was that movie? You said? 6263 63.
Yeah, that was just before the the civil rights of hippies
and I've been I will say although was much more focused
on the misogyny you know, they have little helpers in the group
Elvis his parents owned the, the fantastic Hawaiian fruit company
or something. And they have all these little slaves running
around like Indonesian type of little boys. Hey, boy, go get
the hose boy
should be banned from Netflix. I'm outraged. We shouldn't be
banning Netflix for even allowing that to be shown.
I think you've gotten you're onto something.
Yeah. Well, later in the programme is not for right now.
I have the Newspeak guide from the University of New Hampshire
that I want to review
with you. Oh, no, no, not later. Yeah. Later.
You want to do it now. Now? Let's get this y'all come on.
Let's do it. Oh, jeez.
It's It's so incredible, though. It's just so much of it. I don't
know if you may not be able to walk.
It's now Okay, so this is gonna give me blue balls. I mean, what
is this gonna do? All right,
here we go. University of New Hampshire inclusive excellence.
I guess that's a department. The title of this is bias free
language guide, who now very important, it does say the views
expressed in this guide are not the policy of the University of
New Hampshire, unh, they're what's the point? UNH supports
free speech on all of our campuses, and then they have
this whole statement. But the point of this language has
leadership. And this, these are guidelines, okay. And they
started this is what this is, this is really why I got into
the document. And it was released end of January, so it's
been around. So it's on the University of New Hampshire
letterhead, and they put a little quote at the top of this
document. And the quote is from who could the quote be from one
of our faves Shakespeare? Oh, Melissa Harris. Perry close
though almost Shakespeare. So she doesn't even teach at this
school. Yet. Her quote, is at the top of this document,
Melissa,
dead dead horrible person who got fired from MSNBC. That's the
one Yeah.
What are they quoting her for?
Well, let me read you the quote, in a democracy, recognition
matters. Everyone wants to be seen as who they are. If they
are not, then it's impossible for them to enjoy the experience
of being full citizens. Melissa Harris Perry.
That is a that is just nonsense. What does it even mean? I don't
know.
But it's setting up a nonsense document for sure. I've
highlighted a couple things I want to review with you.
And this is the University of New Hampshire, New Hampshire
University.
These are places to look at the world in new ways. As a
university organisation we care about the life of the mind. We
offer this guide as a way to promote discussion and to
facilitate creative and accurate expression. accurate expression
accurate to make sure you're accurate. Let's say as an
integral part of UNH his mission to continue to build an
inclusive learning community and the first step towards our goal
is an awareness of any bias in our daily language. When we do
not affirm another person's identity, we are characterising
an individual as less than or other. This makes this makes
them invisible and for some, it feels like a form of violence.
Do we need to discuss that or can we just move on
now harmonica hits like the
hits Yeah, what is inclusive language is the question
inclusive language is communication that does not
stereotype or demean people based on personal
characteristics, including gender, gender, expression,
race, ethnicity, economic background, ability, disability
status, religion, sexual orientation, etc. Identities
matter and words matter. It is important to realise that each
person will define their own identity identity terms are
meant for individuals to use to identify themselves and not for
us to identify them. You will find various definition
Depending on culture, places of origin, generation, etc. And of
course, we know that, that here's the here's the obvious
directive when appropriate, ask how a person wishes to be
identified. And please remember that term rather, are meant for
individual, okay? Use inclusive language to emphasise or focus
the reader's attention on similarities, equality and
respect. Now, what they're going to get into here is the right
way and the wrong way to do things. And they start off with
a little a little mini example,
about how about a hello, I should be called,
or My name is?
No, my name is I should be I need to be called this way and
just wear the sticker all the time that would work. So that
gives an example
which kind of hits home for me. In addition, avoid stereotypes
and words that are derived from negative assumptions. And
example, using the expression going Dutch is really rude a
return for splitting the bill, because it demeans the Dutch.
And as soon as they are cheap. This is an example in the
document.
Okay, let's stop right here. That's a good place to stop. I
think so I think you're right.
So I we go out to dinner. And I say, Well, you know, let's go
Dutch on this.
Ah, and microaggression trigger warning, trigger warning,
and you go nuts trigger warning. Is that right is yeah, that you
would be very offended by this.
Well, in this case, no, because for those of you who are new to
this programme, you may not know that in the Netherlands where
the Dutch typically live. Splitting the bill is called
doing it the American way. We call it optional Muni cones.
Well, those bastards
kind of got back at you.
Okay, here now we're getting into examples. And they start
off with the micro aggressions, and I've always been positive.
Yes,
I've been lukewarm on those myself. My dad everything. If
you really did you can have a conversation with anybody.
Unless they're one of your best friends, or they will they make
up? Oh, that's a microaggression. That's a
microaggression. And you don't even know what it is. Okay? I
mean, the two of us are probably the worst for this record making
microaggressions constantly.
There's a reason why I never went to school or three months.
Now, micro aggression is a subtle, often automatic,
stereotypical and insensitive behaviour or comment or
assumption about a person's identity, background, ethnicity
or disability. microaggressions may be intentional or non
intentional. microaggressions are delivered in many forms
politely or negatively. For instance, I don't think your
daughter is capable of doing that because of her disability.
A school principal may say to a parent in front of the student
ignoring her presence completely. So forms of
aggression. That's just rude. Yeah, it is rude. Yeah, it's
not a micro aggression. So
here, here's a micro assault. Because we have different
there's a different forms of aggression. We have might so
under microaggressions, we have the micro assault, which is a
verbal attack example. Why do you need a wheelchair I saw you
walk you can walk right to a person who's using a mobile
chair for long distance travel. Another example, dogs smell
funny, as said to a blind person using a guide dog. Does that.
Good point,
then then we have the micro insert
view. Okay, hold on a second. Yeah, I'm gonna ask you some
questions as we go. What happens if you say, Hey, man, your dog
stinks. It was no,
I think that's, that's different. Unless the dog
identifies as something other than than a dog you would have
to call the dog a cat. Otherwise, that would be okay.
Okay, micro insult, a form of verbal or silent, demeaning
through insensitive comments or behaviour example, a person
exhibits a stubborn begrudging attitude that they will
accommodate an accessibility request. The verbalization is
appropriate, but the tone seems insulting. So now it's not what
you say. It's how you say it, which is a micro insult. So if
someone says, Hey, man, I need some help getting up the stairs
here because I'm disabled. And you go, all right. It's a micro
insult. Then we have you want to stop no, keep going. No, this
stuff is great. Micro invalidation. This is real. This
is a an actual document from the University of New Hampshire. A
micro invalidation degrades a person's wholeness through
making false assumptions about the others ability causing a
sense of invalidation. Example, you have a learning disability.
How can you be a lawyer?
Think I think that one's fine. Yeah, it's
good to second example, the new international student is having
language Challenges. That's wrong apparently. You should say
the new international student is concentrating on learning a new
language. That's not the same No, but that's you cannot micro
invalidate that.
So euphemism that's what I think that's a micro aggression. I
think that's an insult.
Now, this adds
to micro aggression. See, they can't even figure out their own
scam gets
much better. The opposite phenomenon is what Mary rove MIT
termed micro affirmations. This is what we want to focus on
children. Oh, hold on a second. Come on, children, focus on your
micro affirmations. These are subtle or small acknowledgments
of a person's value and accomplishments, such as public
praise of a person's work or character.
Or they this by the way, this is the problem it is. Well, I'll
tell you,
they say they also may be acts of kindness like opening the
door for someone which I do all the time.
sexist pig? Yes, it is. Yes. That's the way I looked at it.
Back in the day. Yep. And it's
back these days, people. Oh, you don't think I can open the door
myself. That's, that's back. That's back. Okay, now let's
just go through our glossary of language I think is very
important that you and I are up to speed on the language the new
speak of the New World Order brought to you by University of
New Hampshire. Okay. We have preferred and problematic
outdated. Okay.
Wait a second again. Yes. As we do this, I have to think what if
somebody from the University of New Hampshire who was all in on
this idea? We're listening right now? What would they think of
us? Oh, listen to those two old bush bags.
No, no, no, no, no, no. That is not what you're allowed to say.
It would be people of advanced age.
Listen to those two douche bags of advanced age. So probably
maybe I'm just saying somebody's of advanced age is incredibly
ageist and insulting and more than a microaggression. Well,
I'm going to read this how do you do that?
How do you how do you criticise us for doing this criticism of
them?
Well, I'm going to give you the glossary you may not it is
problematic and outdated to say older people elder seniors or
senior citizen preferred as people of advanced age.
No way I would consider myself an advanced age. I think you
should probably start thinking about it. I think that's an
outrageous insult to be considered that I agree. I think
older is fine. Okay, poor mature. Mature is good is mature
on
the list No. Mature is novice
advanced age. Where does that start? Let me let me ask the
question. Where does advanced age start? 40 or two these a
holes it probably is 40 Oh, he's 40s Over the hill I have this is
the most insulting bull crap. It just galls me to listen to you
read this but it's not me right. continue
as long as it's not me. problematic term John poor
person. We can no longer say someone is a poor person. You
cannot say Poor
me. Are you sure this is not just a put on? Now? This is
real. Your readings? That is the onion right? Come on.
No, no, no, no, no.
Okay, you can't say somebody's poor.
There's a note. However, some people choose to live a life
that is not connected to the consumer world of material
possessions. And these people do not identify as poor that's just
a note that preferred language for poor person is you may want
to grab a pen person who lacks advantages that others have
to say that about anyone or
or low economic status related to the person's education,
occupation and income. So you can't just say poor you can't
Well you can't say poor you can say that's a person who lacks
advantages that others have. Or that's a person who has low
economic status related to that person's education, occupation
and income.
I'm not gonna say this nobody nobody. And then we have what
about the word bum?
No, no, we do have
is there is it in there so yes or no turn it using it or it's
already assumed nobody uses it to No,
we have the you can also say, person living at or below the
poverty line or my favourite. That's a person experiencing
poverty. That's my favourite I have to say instead of poor
person, oh my gosh, look at those people experiencing
poverty.
But that's actually funny when it gets better.
You can't say someone's homeless. What do you say you've
learned now? Come on, John. You've learned what do you say
someone's not homeless?
They are a home disadvantage. No, they are experiencing
Homelessness
is their experience
it picks as though it's a ride at Disney World. Yes
Ah If you're not you
need an E ticket for that to be homeless that's fantastic I'd
love to try that sometime
it to experience it not going to try you can experience I'd like
to
experience at some time someone whose that's when you get a nice
punch in the gut seems to me
welfare queen welfare people No no no no no we say person using
welfare. Now we also can no longer say rich because of
course it's assumed that riches money No, no. Rich people will
just pick one Bill Gates is a person of material wealth. Okay,
obese
you can't say that guy's rich.
No, no.
So why don't we this is like come instead I mean, this is
these are nice words. The word Rich has a bit of wide the
definition is wide ranging and it's and it gets to the point
rather quickly and it and it's this is what the language is
supposed to do be pointed. But no they want us to write to talk
like cops right reports
let's keep going no longer obese or overweight you are there you
are a person of size.
I thought they're gonna say fat
No, can't say no, no, no. General prints of size, person
of size.
Now a person of size could be anybody on the Warriors. They're
not overweight or obese as a person so when you say that a
person says oh, do they play basketball? Or then the football
team? Does that does the first my first reaction some someone
would say their personal size
move on to general principles regarding ability or disability
status. general principles, use person first constructions that
put the person ahead of the disability instead of a blind
woman or a diabetic use a woman who was blind or a person with
diabetes. Just as it is not always.
They needed an editor for this you don't write like that. And
you definitely don't
talk like that. Just as it's not always necessary to convey the
visual way to manage. So you saying the guy's a diabetic? is
not right. You have to say a person have diabetes? Yes, a
person who is a person with diabetes. A person with diabetes
is like he's like his buddy. It's like a diabetes. The guy's
got a little pooch named diabetes. This is outrageous.
We're not done. Not done. I couldn't believe this when I was
reading it. But it is it is it is the real deal is not in the
guidelines is not the rules, but it's
clear what they're trying to do not the rules because rules are
also a bad word.
But just as it's not always necessary to convey the colour
of a person's hair. For example, do not mention that a person has
a disability unless it is relevant to the communication
which makes no sense. I say no the redhead. So that's also not
that because of course that's it. We all know redheads have
disability. Okay, watch the metaphors, Redhead hater. No
soul bipolar Autistics. Gitzo. An add are words that should not
be thrown around in conference a conversation. potential issues.
Although the majority is so low the majority of disability
advocacy group groups and members of the disability
community generally, Hey, can I get into the disability
community? You should generally accept the term disability there
are some who are leaders with Tourette's. Yes, it's my buddy
over here. There are some who believe that even the term
disability itself is pejorative. Some people may often prefer to
use terms such as differently abled may or may characterise a
disability as simply a difference rather than any sort
of impediment. For example, members of Deaf Culture.
Here's here's it, hold on. Yeah. I'm telling you for a fact.
Yeah, that if this was written by any professional writer, they
were they were beside themselves as they cranked this crap out,
believe me, they are
beside them. But we know this, John, come on. This is what has
come to special, particularly in college campuses. Okay, let's go
to the glossary of language for our general for ability and
disability status. So you can't say someone is normal, healthy
or whole. You have to say non disabled. Watch. Yes.
Now you've done it.
non disabled is the preferred term for people without
disabilities. First
of all, they say that the word itself disability is not a good
word to use ever. And then. So what they do now they've
attached the word dissonant. No, no, no, no, no, hold on, hold on
disabled.
No, they said, though, disability is generally
accepted. There are some who believe that shoot itself is
pejorative so they're kind of wishy washy on that kind of in
the middle but why don't
they just go with the flow and do what the millennials do and
then dead call the non disabled the normals
I'm all for it. I like to invalidate myself for the okay
blind person no good of course that is person who was blind or
person who was visually impaired same with deaf you can't You're
not deaf you're deaf or hard you person who was deaf or hard of
hearing
what I got one for you that's a real problem all right. What if
you're dead
yes a person who was no they're dead no they say they're not
alive person no longer living I think is the correct thing
no longer living
well, let's go down to the living thing. So saying someone
is stricken with a disability so someone is stricken with cancer
or an AIDS victim afflicted with stricken with suffers from
victim of confined are terms that are based on assumption
that a person with a disability is suffering or living a reduced
quality of life instead they are used neutral language when
describing a person who has a disability like person living
with AIDS person living with cancer. It's great, isn't it?
Then would you like to know the correct words for race
ethnicity, ethnicity, culture and immigrant status? Are you
not going to bump in any of those people?
I'm kind of interested in hearing about the CES Oh yes.
Guy I'm always confused about that.
I'll go into ces if you want you want to see you want to skip
pass now this is part of it.
If there's any if there's any good ones in there read those
and then you go let's go to CES. Oh,
can it not be good?
I guess so far all right. So finally we have the
guy used to be this is the pride I know it happened. George
Carlin died. And this was his head writer.
Of course Negro Negro coloured person and dark are no law are
problematic words preferred is black or African American. But
you cannot. So if you are a US citizen or resident of the US,
that's okay. Well, you can no law is problematic to use the
term American because it fails to recognise South America.
Oh, we're not going to do that. That's so old fat that was
around when I was people would do that. What do you mean you're
American? Yeah. It's it's just a slang. South Americans don't
call themselves American. So we took it. Now people of colour is
specified here. Brazilians are Venezuelans. They're, you know,
what are you? I'm a veteran, Venezuela and Colombia and Chile
and I'm a Peruvian. Okay, we're Americans.
I'm a pasta foreign. Here we go. people of colour just so you
know, that is really only referring to Asian or Pacific
Islander or Native American, Latino, Hispanic, African
American. Actually, it's everybody but it's not
synonymous with Black or African American.
As you just said, black in the list.
Yes. It is supposed to be by everybody.
Right? Yeah, it's not synonymous with African Americans. Blacks.
Yeah, it's synonymous with
everybody. Except white, white, White's not colour
versus colour that's not marginalisation
at all. No. Arabs can say Arabs, John. No, no, no,
no, no. Even if they're from Saudi Arabia. No, no, no, no,
no. They call themselves Arabs. You
can say you can say they're from their Saudi Arabians but you can
no longer use continent so you can't say that guys, African you
have to specify the country of origin.
How do you do that? Well, if he's from down the street, and
you know he's African.
No, that's you. Well, it's okay. Keep it to yourself. No micro
insults yourself.
Now you're talking and Caucasian people
is also no longer usable. We are white people or European
American individuals. I'm writing that one down. I'm not
on your business cards.
European American individual Yeah. I know.
Foreigners can't say foreigners. What do we call them? Come on,
John. This is easy. You get the idea. Are you rolling into
towners close international people? International
international biracial multi race can't say that. Oh, you
know, you can say by saying Octoroon No, you know you just
making fun of me.
No, I'm not I'm just says a good it's a word that was very cut in
common use.
Let's move on to LGBTQ q ia P, shall we? And then and then we
should move on. We should move on. It's not gonna help.
When you said that, is that the way it's listed? Quadroon? No.
LG Q No,
no, no LGBTQ Qi AAP AP No. In fact, there's some language in
here that is interesting. This is the glossary of language.
Regarding Wait, hold on a second. You're telling me that
they don't acknowledge that term?
Not the no LGBTQ is all they acknowledge. That's not right. I
agree it's an insult. The preferred verbiage is you can
either say sexual minorities, or you can individually say queer,
lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender and you can say
queer or questioning. There's nothing else
according to say queer nowadays and that's like okay, used to be
like the big insult back in the 50s 60s is every Super Chat say
that?
I'm going to start using it. And I will carry a card size version
of this. If anyone questions me is Excuse me. I'm
at the point right to this line. So yeah, I can I can use that
word. See, look, look look I'm
gonna zip through these homosexual you can no longer use
this word. This is not the correct word. No longer
homosexual.
You can't be homosexual anymore when they hate the gays
homosexual
isn't
a homosexual dog gay is listed in there as a bad thing I'll get
there.
Homosexual is an outdated clinical term considered
derogatory and offensive by many gay and lesbian people, gay or
lesbian accurately describe those who are attracted to
people at the same sex or gender as you ready? SGL
What's that mean?
Same gender loving Wow, yep, that is same gender loving that
is what you need to use.
l it also means it also refers to being single, which I think
anyone who follows these rules will
be very single. And if someone is going like Caitlyn Jenner,
when she finally transitions what will that be called?
A I have no idea. You
know, we we will say we'd say sex changes what we would say
sex changes silly cisgendered ie a holes. No, no, no. You either
say gender reaffirming surgery, gender confirming surgery or
sexual reassignment surgery abbreviated as SRS.
So she's an SRS.
Well, she's a pre SRS.
Isn't that some sort of thing that's used by analogue signal
processing? Does that mean something? Okay. I don't know
what it means to SRS. I've seen it before.
Now a couple of things, a couple of new terms and this is where
you're cisgender and then I'll be done. Couple of terms where
you buy phobia by phobia is a term now
that that means you're afraid of bicycles?
Yes. bisexuals, which you're afraid of them? Yes. The fear
hatred and or dislike of fear and hatred is hatred. Okay,
yeah. The actual death, fear and hatred of bisexuals. The actual
definition I believe should be irrational fear, but that's just
me. Cisgender Here you go. Cisgender range of different
identities. When a person is comfortable identifying with the
sex or gender they were assigned at birth. That does not
necessarily mean John that you're straight. Interesting,
isn't it?
Yeah, yeah, I get the sense that they're,
well, it's okay. So, along with cisgender comes centrism.
centrists is centrism which I'm sure
we are guilty of HERE IT COMES sis centrism a pervasive and
institutionalised system that places transgender people in the
other category and treats their needs and identities as less
important than those of cisgender people. This includes
the lack of gender neutral bathrooms, locker rooms and
residences.
I've Okay, yeah. No in residences. So in other words,
if I for that to make me centric, I like I'd have to have
a men's room and I've met a girls man that and a new
separate bathrooms in the house and a neutral and a neutral
Yeah,
and a ramp. Alright, I'm gonna give you a word, you're going to
tell me what the preferred language is. And this will be
it. Okay. Okay, guys, dolls. You can use folks people, you all or
y'all and that's exactly what our president does. Interesting.
Can't say guy.
No
Nope, nope. Can't say guys, you're gonna say folks,
people,
you all or you people. So in other words, it's okay now to go
up to a cop and say, You people
you're gonna get if
it's two cops you can say you people. Yeah. Girls.
A women?
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Very good.
There's a five year old woman.
No, it does say when referring to adult women. manpower.
manpower? Yes. Oh, you mean as Oh, yeah, we need a lot of
manpower. Yeah. Do this job. People Power.
People, workforce personnel or workers.
Reminds me of a story I have to tell now. I told the story
before mentality again, I we love your stories, John. So I'm
fooling around at Boeing. And one of the guys comes up and was
chatting because he used to write for PC World. And he said,
No, we're talking about PC World being dominated by lesbians. And
he says he wrote a piece for them. And they kicked it back,
saying that he was using sexist language. And it says, And he
then the sentence went with went like this. The representative of
the company said that this would not continue to happen. And so
his editor said you're using sexist language. That was the
sexist language. She said the words representative should be
spokesperson spokes
all this person thinks
and says What If? Well, you're you're going to interrupt the
story. I'm sorry. So she says but representative is as neutral
as you can get. I mean, she says no, no, no, no, no, you don't
get it. spokesperson. lets people know that we do not use
sexist language representative doesn't. Yes.
Yeah. So we're politically correct. That's beautiful.
Where was this? PC World?
It makes sense, doesn't it? PC World?
Actually, not at your bench. I've never thought of that
ever. I'll take it.
The world test. All right.
The average man can't say that. Of course. You have to say the
average person. Obviously chairman is no longer good.
Chairperson, Chair moderator discussion leader. freshman in
college. I can't say freshmen. First year students very good.
Why? Because the word man isn't it says Men Exactly. Well, this
is just a man hating thing. This whole thing that you've been
reading, if you boil it down, it's hates men. They should all
be having sex with each other and just stay away out of our
way the women. I think that kind that is the theme of what you're
doing here. This boils down to that. Yeah, it boils down to all
men should be gay. And having sex with each other, at least
not bothering us up here at the University of New Hampshire.
This virus will be Smith and the you can send your notes to
somebody else. By the way, Smith whorls,
the tragedy of this is that where we're headed, is not only
will cisgendered straight white males be marginalised, but I'm
seeing cisgendered white gay males being marginalised. We
talked about this in the previous show. It's like, you
don't get to discriminate it like everybody else in the in
the multi sexual community that you watch it will be the gay
men, gay, straight, gay white men who will be next. And
marginalised. It's it's about
the men it's not about gay it's not about anything it's about
man.
Not letting the gay man hide behind days yes I know
men hating women's and these certain schools up in the
Northeast yeah and that I would put UNC is obviously one Oh, UNH
is obviously one of them. Yeah. Okay, well they did a good job
they managed to get that book out. Just the beginning. Just a
wedge the wedge the wedge issue
it's called change someone says in the chat room change
it's called the girl in the chat room.
It's called Change everybody. I don't know if that was meant
facetiously.
With it you chewed a hole
let's move on. Let's play some audio.
I think by the way the audience should have appreciated that.
Yeah. And
I'm I am perspiring from reading this. I am I am it's
it's got my hackles up.
Yeah, I'd be I'd be a keeper has to Tina has two kids and School.
And you can see they're smart. But you can see this. Some of
this rubs off from time to time like, Oh, wow. Back it up. Yeah,
yep, yep. Yep. No good. All right. All righty. Once you got
for instance, John?
Well, there's a couple of things. One is this. And this is
kind of along the same lines, and there's a couple of bills
with the North Carolina bills, one of them but the Georgia bill
which I think was vetoed by the governor, as
he vetoed it, under pressure from Coca Cola and big
companies, and mainly the think that Hollywood who said that
they would no longer be filming in Georgia if
Yeah, Disney was a big Disney, which is a very liberal
operation. And of course, they had to everyone you know, this
was reported I got this report this there. Here's the report
rundown I got some comments about this, the Georgia bill,
much showdown over proposed religious liberty bill could be
costly for the state of Georgia. Backers say that the measure
would protect faith based groups that refuse to serve or hire
someone for religious reasons. But major companies like Walt
Disney say that this discriminates against the LGBT
community. They are threatening to pull out their business.
David Vigna was outside Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta. David,
good morning.
Good morning. For the sake of this story, it's all about
business. You've got entertainment companies saying
they're going to reconsider doing business in the Peach
State if the governor signs that bill. And then there's the NFL
take the Atlanta Falcons, for example. They've been playing at
the Georgia Dome right here for years. But across the street,
they're building the Mercedes Benz Superdome, it's a $1.4
billion project that they hope will bring in advertisers. Whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, was that
all about yours? Go on.
I'll take the Atlanta Falcons, for example. They've been
playing at the Georgia Dome right here for years. But across
the street, they're building the Mercedes Benz Superdome, it's a
$1.4 billion project that they hope will bring the Superbowl
back to Atlanta but experts say that chance will get sacked if
this bill gets signed. And then there's Disney x where it's all
been said it's done with George Oh yeah. If the governor signs
that bill.
Well, you could have cut out the
the damn man sure has been kind to ant fan. And other Disney
movies filmed in Georgia. state's generous tax incentives
have provided a warm welcome to filmmakers. But now, some
studios say that southern hospitality is being tested by a
proposed law they believe discriminates against the LGBT
community. Disney issued a statement saying we will plan to
take our business elsewhere, should any legislation allowing
discriminatory practices be signed into state law. similar
sentiments had been voiced by AMC Networks which films The
Walking Dead in Georgia as well as other corporations, Viacom,
Delta, Coca Cola, Unilever, Intel, and reps for two of
Georgia sports teams, the Falcons and the Braves. God
loves everyone. The state's vocal debate, religious liberty
and gay rights now focus on Georgia's Republican Governor
Nathan Deal, who must decide whether to sign a bill called
the Free Exercise Protection Act would not only allow religious
officials to refuse to perform same sex marriages. It would
also allow faith based organisations to deny services
or employment to people who violate their quote, sincerely
held religious belief. State senator Greg Kirk is a sponsor
of the bill. Give me an example of what your bill would do for
somebody in Georgia.
Let's say my wife and I want to start an adoption agency. We
wanted to be a faith based organisation we only want to
adopt out to traditional couples, it would protect us
but opponents say the bill legalises discrimination
before you give your analysis, you know, I listened to Sirius
XM progressive channel 127 It's so painful, but Stephanie
Miller, Thom Hartmann and Michelangelo Signorelli. All
week, I have to hand it to the to the cisgendered white gay
guys. They really did bring this to the forefront. But it was I
think pretty much the gay guys only who really worked on this
from what I was witnessing.
I wouldn't be surprised. But the thing is, is that George dodged
a bullet they don't even know about because if they had passed
this thing, it would have given the Muslims outrageous freedom
to do all kinds of nasty things. Like not let people in their
cabs, which they did, which they've been busted for in
places like Detroit and Dearborn. For you all that guy,
you know, the guy was seen with a dog so I'm not giving you a
ride. And this was like a common thing with the Somalis and some
of these other minorities from that are Muslim minorities
interest and this would have given them free rein It's almost
as though I'm listening to this thing. Who was really behind
this, these, these Christians are can always get away with
doing what they want not given people. You know the baby if
they were an adoption agency, there's ways around having to
need a law to protect you. I'm almost convinced that this was
organised and when probably dreamed up by a Muslim minority
and to begin with, wow, and these it is in Georgia just
don't get it.
Slow clap. Thank you very, very good. And you know what is mind
boggling about what you just said? When you hear this
argument, which I've been hearing for the whole week. That
never entered my mind. You nailed it. It never entered but
you only think crazy Christians crazy gays. That's all you're
thinking. Oh, wow. Thank you for screwing my head back on
straight. That was like an instant be 12 shot. Yep, really
helped. Nice.
And Georgia. Here's the state debt. Then some I remember years
and years ago, when it was like I think in the early 80s. They
outlawed sodomy. They had a sodomy law. And there's a couple
other states that have this. I don't know. They're still on the
books here and there. And then the irony. Well, let's let's
bring up the major irony of this. By the way. Atlanta is
probably more gay than San Francisco. It's an extremely gay
town. Nobody that's from Atlanta will deny this. It's mostly up
in in Buckhead. I mean, it's not I mean, the downtown Atlanta is
black. But Atlanta is an incredibly gay Arab. And I will
say this also, everybody's very happy with it's not like they're
bitching about it. The big
Jewish population in Atlanta. Yeah, yeah. Also, yes. Hey, Ron
blue from Atlanta. Oh, you're right.
Yeah, there's a lot of guests. Yeah, it's a very big
cosmopolitan area. So why would they come up with this in the
first place? Because Atlanta is the capital they know what's
going on. So we have to have this assume it's the Muslims
that came up with it and they they snooker these idiots.
Well, we have to find out how you got to backtrack that now
you gotta go find out. I just might. You'd mentioned native
ad, which I was correct. It was a native ad package all over AP
kind of sad really that AP lowered itself to this. Maybe
they're just an unwitting participant
the dreaded airport security line. at airports around the
nation. These lines are getting longer, leading to missed
flights and frustrated passengers. But the weights are
expected to get worse. This summer fliers will likely face
massive security lines at airports across the country,
prompting airlines to warn passengers to arrive at least
two hours early or risk missing their flights. The combination
of factors is causing the delays among the chief reasons the
Transportation Security Administration's failure to
enrol enough people in its expedited screening programme
called pre check. Only 9.3 million fliers have enrolled
just a fraction of the 25 million people the TSA had hoped
it would have signed up by now. But based on the promise of
precheck Congress cut more than 4600 TSA screeners, nearly 10%
of the workforce now the TSA is scrambling
so I'm convinced that we can improve the process we can
improve efficiency, we can still meet our effectiveness targets
and we can improve the passenger experience.
The TSA is shifting some resources to tackle lines at the
nation's biggest airports including using dogs to sniff
bags and help lines move faster. Still, with more fliers and
fewer security screeners there's no easy solution on the horizon.
While this I think the reporting is so sad on this because it was
some form of promotion for the precheck which is not free and
not easy. But how can this be okay now I understand this is
the TSA
people an outrageous story
well what's outrageous and I want to hear you what's
outrageous because they come with this crazy idea of makes it
almost impossible to get pre check. I've tried to do it. I
luckily a flight to PSA or PSA southwest a lot and they give
you pre check free but to come up with some cockamamie
programme that doesn't work because it's impossible to sign
up for it probably easily and then just fire a bunch of people
in advance because you projected these delis you know it's gonna
be super successful is nuts. This is bad man. Well,
it's even worse. How can we allow this to happen that we
have huge lines in the unsecured area of the airport just two
weeks after someone blew up and American Airlines check in at an
airport. Right where's that part of the story?
They're they're missing that sort of story somebody for what
it is you want to do a lot of damage walk get into line with
the pack. You know have a T P gr ta TP whatever it is. Ta TP and
Just get make sure you're about halfway through the line. And by
the way, when you get really bored when you're done the line
and boom, you take everybody you're
done. But just from a huge threat just from his first
memory security standpoint. That's the first thing I thought
it's like, wow, that's not good. How the whole bunch the
way I feel when I'm standing in the line, I say it was some mad
bomber in here that's going to blow up the whole thing be
afraid slaves. Anyway, yeah. Yeah, they should rush these
people. You should be rushed through that line. Yeah. rushed.
There should be there should be a sense of urgency to get you
out of that line. Yeah,
because it's dangerous. It's dangerous, dangerous, I tell
you.
That no, they don't, then it's about overtime. And I know, you
know, who's gonna have to work the next shift. And I don't even
give a crap. There's no bombers Anyway,
before we thank our producers and executive producers, but I
want to roll out a little anomaly that I noticed over the
past week. I see just came in today. Apparently, Apple has now
released iOS 9.3 dot one, which would fix the problem I was
having with my iPhone. And of course, I was not alone. It is
now day six. So six days after this started, of course, we had
Easter and now why would anyone work on Easter? No. And I was
right. Actually, I was right about the shared web
credentials. And it turns out well, the actual technical
reason is not that interesting, because it's obfuscating
something else because there was an issue with the iOS 9.3
release initially, if you probably saw it was when does
that's more than a week before my problem started. They issued
it. It then quote unquote, bricked older iPhones, they
pulled it back and re issued it. And there was something
different about this. Okay. The as you recall, the and this
affected older devices, and what what happened was view would
instal that the instal would start and then it would say you
need your iCloud credentials. And for whatever reason, that
broke a lot of people's instal so Apple took it back. Then they
rereleased it now, even though it was 9.3. The last few numbers
of the release were the same was two, three, actually, strangely
enough, I think was three, three at the end for those older
phones, and then people could unbrick their phones and their
iPad twos and here it comes iPhone five. And they could
restore them with a new update without being signed by Apple.
But being signed or authenticated by your iCloud
login. And this was just quickly they put it out people could fix
it only for those devices. And it didn't really adhere to my
problem right? There were no other devices that were bricked
what's interesting is the next day the FBI says yeah, we don't
need to Apple we're all good. We're I'd say it's all fine
we're in
and um, I
don't know why you're putting you're adding two and two
I am I'm saying Apple released something specifically for
iPhone five iPad to edit and it didn't work and then they re
released it and instead of Apple signing the update if you had
iCloud credentials, which we know the FBI has the iCloud
credentials, because they reset them. It does not as far as I
understand not dependent on the device to have the same
password. You could override that for this one time for this
one released boom collaborateurs holy crap shave their heads I
tell you
that I never heard even thought of what you just said. And it
being part of the solution to that other issue that we're
having.
And a lot of people are gonna say no. And it's fine. I'm just
saying that anyway, that timing of this that voice by the way
that the timing of this is very very suspicious. And yeah, so
where is where is
it that you think they're bringing these these crazy as
Ray by the way? I think it's an insult that they supposedly
brought these crazy unknown Israelis actually their company
has been named
Oh, there. They've done a lot of work for the for the services in
the states they
like we can we have no good techies here that can do this
domestically? I guess not just a bunch of schmucks got to bring
in those sharp Israelis.
But maybe they had nothing maybe the Israelis didn't help at all.
I'm just saying I guess the they Apple had an issue. It brick
people's phones they and was specifically iPhone five, iPad
two. They rerelease people are able to fix their phones,
because they because they were off as far as I understand they
were authenticating at this time, not by the apple key, but
because they were bricked, this is what I'm understanding and
people have also at least partially confirmed their or
completely confirm their suspicions. People are much
smarter than me. And then they pull it back. And then the most
recent release number is 337. Or not, not three, three, but
three, seven. That's the one that I got. And I didn't have to
do any iCloud authentication. But then I don't worry as with
Apple's magic box turned out not true one day after they do debt.
I'm just putting two and two together. You're right. Couldn't
be wrong, but I
like it. Because of coincidence. Not coincidence.
I think not. Then with that,
I'd like to no such thing as a coincidence.
I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning
to you John. E stands for coincidence Devorah
well in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry also in the morning
all ships and sea foods on the ground feeds in the air subs in
the water and all the dames nights out there
in the morning to the chat room. They've been very patient with
us today as we had kind of a slow start some technical issues
no agenda stream God calm. Thank you very much to our artists and
we're going to thank what do we thank today we thank Nick the
rods. Yeah, Nick. He brought us the artwork for episode 811.
Nice one that was
there was a lot of good art that we had to argue about. And we
picked it Nick art because what was there some specific reasons?
Well, he had the EU
egg that was cracked and the yolk was bleeding out. So it was
EU breaking up. It was Easter it had all the elements. I mean,
yeah,
it was an egg which is Easter egg. And then the EU that was it
was grandma.
It was dynamite. I thought it was a nice piece. Very nice.
It's good work, Nick.
Well, we do have a few people to thank for show. It was just a
total of 812812 We had one idea I just mentioned that they don't
have to mention the idea you had which was you'll be 12 now, but
it was a little too haxor for my taste I guess. Sir Philip taught
in our Titan for Titan for Titan our Pfotenhauer Titan tower,
FOTON Pfotenhauer Pfotenhauer, and our Sir Philip Pfotenhauer
Who is this not an instant I this is he's now it's reaction
he's barren now and as in a barren not barren and he's in
Tampa Florida John and Adam please upgrade me to 3x status
done some clarity on when de douching is appropriate for
members of the roundtable it's been a while since my last
donation as appreciated anyway that's that would be
appreciated. With open protector it's starting to disappear and
Deutschland spoken is spoken for
I believe so yes, I believe we have a Who do we have in
Deutschland?
You'll take bear in Bavaria pasta rice shoes
today. Oh Stroz today oh striker. And notice he takes it
as a consolation
as which is the EU Americans is Austria. Oh strike as a
consolation. It's pretty funny Bavaria is part of but it's
okay. I think he can get his Bavaria will have if there is a
dispute. It will be resolved by the peerage committee.
I believe if he takes over Bayern he also gets the Bayern
motovlog probably can daily BMW i think doesn't it? Yes Good.
Yeah, BMW Yeah. While you're at it the like a Trump Bing Bing
Bing boom. And that job is karma would be appreciated the regard
Sir Philip,
I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a dilution because he's kind of on
the fence if he deserves it or not. But oh, he deserves the
Barons can do whatever they do. deuced big, big jobs, jobs and
jobs or jobs. Beautiful. Thank you very much. For the boat in
our
name Tanya, they're in New York 364 41. She actually mailed in a
check. And with has a picture of the of the original rolling
stones on the back. It's a bit like a little card. And that's
when they were good because they had that. What was his name? The
guy was a guitar player who died in the swimming pool. What's his
name? Oh,
He died in the swimming pool.
The guitar player that was on the original Rolling Stones. Oh,
Brian Jones. Right? Right.
Yeah. Brian Jones. Yeah,
yeah. Brian Jones.
Well, we all know that it was really the manager that killed
him. I wouldn't be surprised they had a love affair was all
messed up
encloses my tax refund donation with which completes my path to
Vikon Countess. I'll send a separate email with the
accounting Thank you. Complete Yes, she's a vibe count is now
on the list change on the life. I think she is. I don't think
she is because it came in as a card and I never told Eric
Okay, that would make sense. Yeah. No, it has it here.
bareness Tanya by Countess. It's on. Magic thank
you for your courage and passion in producing the best podcast in
the universe. All the best Kenya. Now I'm going to do a
meet up in New York people have been wondering about your
message just announce it on here. I would I'll send a note
out to everybody because a lot of people don't we'll meet
you got something to promote. I mean, on a podcast, your message
will get far.
So on New York on Tuesday, April 5, my birthday I'm going to be
having dinner at sparks sparks, sparks Steakhouse. One of my
favourite steak houses in Manhattan and I'm gonna have
dinner from six to eight and eight. We're going to do let's
do a meet up in the bar at sparks until they throw us out
so I think that's after eight eight o'clock could be the meat
of time
okay, that if I were you if I were you personally I would have
said meet up in the bard sparks after eight. Now you've set
people up to come in and stalk you while you're eating. That's
fine
okay to get the whole family we can take them if anybody wants
to come by and say hi pass the table that would look pretty
cool. I think actually
yeah. Yeah, no, that should be coming and bowing to you like
your royal handing me an envelope and bowing to you and
Hello sir. Hello, sir. Hello, sir. Hello. That would cause
quite a stir us
and then from time to time you just push one of them against
their forehead and said your heel
Well, I probably won't do that. But okay, I can
I can see a lot of eye roll and coming up
the divorce like family.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, the sanbi only takes so much of it.
Gregory Davis in Austin, Texas. 330. This shirt jeans friend.
Please accept my donation to the best podcast in the universe.
This brings me to knighthood. I'm excited to announce the
release of my book. Our e i guess Gu R E ar e Thank you
sales management. Is that ar e part of the title? Not sure.
I think it's rethink rethink.
But it's got a capital does lowercase r lowercase E which
means you know B. B 12 And then think rethink sales manager
please send me the karma for my safe consulting startup and the
website challenge assumptions.com Which this time
unlike the last donation the website is actually ready. Oh
that droning Bell noise may have thrown me off but at least it
has me donating please pay my play my note to that tone and
give me calm and happy joy if that's a bit
I don't know what the happy I don't think we have happy Joy
Joy. I'm looking for this. I can't I don't know. I have no
idea what he's talking about.
was sent me some that that ringtone probably created.
Okay, well, we're gonna give him karma for sure and then really
appreciate his his contribution and support of the show in the
work. You've got karma. Merci beaucoup.
Oh, this is not a good note this sir. Borislav Marc Maron on one
of our all time long
No, no no mature supporters not old or longtime.
He's one of our longtime supporters to 3456 from trabuco
Canyon, California over a month without a job he says the sense
of job karmic because my application has been stuck for
two weeks at some boss's desk waiting for his signature. Oh
man. Bogus jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
Okay, now this is an interesting one. This is anonymous from
Sterling, Virginia. 234561 of my favourite donations. You'd be an
Associate Executive Producer along with Boris loft. He says
he has a very distinctive first name. That's why he wants to be
anonymous. This is unanimous greetings from Northern
Virginia.
Ah, you sure it's the name?
Yeah, Okay, we need more donations from Northern Virginia
by the way, yeah, you're out there listening because you
know, yeah, I've been listening for almost two years now and the
guilt has become too much to bear. I had to donate please
accept his donation to the best podcast in university consider
it an initial payment towards knighthood. Keep up the
fantastic work on this outstanding product. My only
shot is as follows. Hey, Kenny, what's up with that instant
knighthood?
I'm thinking about him having some kind of recognisable name
or some kind of name that people would have an odd name that
people know. And we think about it most spooks that we know who
are on TV as pundits, or Bob or Mike. You know what I mean?
There's a lot of ones with the weird names too. But you're
right, Bob and Mike have been named
Bob and Mike is good John, you can put that in Bill. Bill. I'm
gonna getting D douching. And you've been D deuced. You've got
karma nonnamous.
I'm gonna look up see if we can find Jeremiah. Yeah, I don't
have a note from them. So he may be in the email box. t r i e, b
e il.
Let me see if I got a Jeremiah. I do not believe I have a
Jeremiah in my box. Anybody got a Jeremiads box?
It wouldn't be nice if it actually typed tre IV. And we
have just a couple of notifications from Pay Pal. No.
So if he has a note versus something he wants us to send, I
will read it at a later date. Okay, so he sent in 23456 from
Longville, Texas. Excellent. That would be that. Onward to
Ignacio salaam, salaam Salome, Salome. Salome. I'd say yes,
it'd be Salomon is in Gardena, California 200 bucks. And he
has. Let's see what he's got here. I have a cursor. There he
is. Hello, John. And I've been listening to this show since
November last year 774 to be exact. Congratulations on a
great episode last Sunday 811. And indeed it was the pile of
evidence you managed to extract from the propaganda machine all
pointing to the possibility that icsb is being controlled by the
we have to talk about their story and we do it being
controlled by the US interest left me with a peace of mind
knowing that such an attack on American soil is highly
unlikely. I figured I might as well just donate as I already
pay a bunch of companies for peace of mind auto apartment
medical insurance. So I consider my donation sanity insurance.
I'd like to say hi to my friend and co worker Henry Hernandez
who hit me in the mouth and proceeded to remind me of how
much of a douche I was. Every time we discussed the show.
Please de douche me and consider this my first contribution
toward knighthood. I am an aspiring fiction writer. So
please give me some much needed karma to shop the writer's block
away.
And before we do that, we do need to talk about what happened
to his donation or what happened to his paypal account.
Yes. And this was, yeah, what his account because he used the
word ISIS. Well,
we don't know that he used it. But we know somebody did our pre
Mark Hall who who supported us on I think it was episode 805.
Because I looked it up for him. They blocked the money came
through, but they blocked his account. And they specifically
asked him Why did you mention ISIS in the note of your
donation? Right. So I'm just gonna say probably not a good
idea to put that in your donation.
Yeah, so Ignace just got through with the note. The other guys
know
Mark's got through to but both of but the Pay Pal account
account got frozen after that.
Yeah. Yeah. Do not use ISIS or ISIL. I don't know about Dash. I
don't think anyone says don't do any of that. Just be careful
when you write these emails, because these Pay Pal and all.
Everybody is being looked at
round lists now. Well, on the list. Yeah,
we're all on a list.
Because you know, here's how it goes. Hey, we've had two
donation. Was it two things with like the ISIS? Could you just
give us everyone who's donated to that PayPal account, please.
It's all they see this stuff as code. Yeah. Code. Good. The
thing is the way I see it. It ends up giving us at least two
or three more listeners.
Yeah, within the band
valence band, but they're still listening. They're loving the
show. Thank goodness. Yeah. And by the way, when they listen,
I'm sure that the list of being on the list doesn't last
forever. Because it's they listened to one show and these
guys these heard about these two jokers podcast,
no. ISIS doesn't use podcasting.
That's the one the one part of the new media spectrum that ISIS
has not conquered yet. Yet. There's no ISIS podcast. This is
an outrage.
Yeah. Which makes you wonder about their does degrade or so
does media. They're like, they're a bit great with the
internet, and I don't see the podcast. Where's the podcast?
Should be a bunch of ISIS podcasts. Exactly.
Alright, am I doing him first? Is that what I need to ship?
You've been de deuced it's almost too delicious to believe
my friend.
Hillary Clinton, you might die. Okay, you've got I got it harm
on.
Anybody. And then finally, Laura Hickman in Virginia Beach Beach,
Virginia. $200. And I couldn't find a note from her. So
check the bamboo check. Laura Hickman. You said? Yeah, good.
Oh,
Laura. Donated before?
No, I don't have any. Don't think Laura or Heather. Laura. I
know. Heather's another one.
No, don't have it most you can send us if something if she
needs that.
Right. All right. That'll conclude our group of people
that are the executive producers and Associate Executive
producers to be named on our bond, the podcast as such in the
mp3 and net Reddits. Yeah, for episode 812. And they get
special credits, and they can put it on there. And you tell
them you have to pitch give it to him.
The pitch is that these credits are real. Just like everything
you see on a television show or in a movie you see the executive
producers Associate Executive producers, either at the
beginning or somewhere in you know, after the opening leader,
we tried to give that kind of respect. And these can be put on
your IMDB LinkedIn seems to work very well. Whatever you do,
remember, we have another show coming up on Sunday vora.org/n A
and until then, you have many things you can do one of which
is propagate our formula.
Our formula is this. We go out. We had people in the mouth shut
us.
So I have a little tidbit about executive producers. Okay, which
I never knew. All right, because they just don't talk. But one of
the executive producers is always typically if you're the
showrunner, the person who actually makes the show. Well,
that's
if it's a TV show, not a movie, but a TV show.
No, no, not movies is not to do with movies as TV shows, because
TV shows or just the way credits are done is completely alien to
movies. But executive producers on a TV show one of them is the
showrunner. Right. Which one when they string him out they
got this and that? Well, you did.
Are you asking me a question?
But I'm asking if you if you've heard this?
Yes, I worked in television all my
life. Yeah, show run. Okay, who's the who's the showrunner?
Who is the show on his show runners? The person? Yeah. He's
the showrunner. He's ultimately responsible for the whole kitten
caboodle
production item on the credits.
Oh, how can you spot them on the credits? I don't know.
The last executive producer
is the show run. It's also often created by that's also often in
fact, 90%
of the time the showrunner is also the creative guy, graded by
guy but he's also listed at the end of the of the credit run as
the exec as an executive producer. In fact, John boeken
Campo who does the blacklist is created by and then they have
all these executive producers indented sometimes too. I don't
know why they put two and then one and then one. And then the
last one is again volken camp. So if you're, if you're ever
somebody out there is in the business, or they want to be in
Division, or they want to write like this one guy's gonna write
fiction and you want to get a hold of the showrunner for one
of the shows. That guy is the one you want to get a hold of is
the last guy right?
So that's the guy show runner
up because some there was some guy wrote a big one of these
guys who's like a lesser executive producer, just he's
like a writer. And then he's also executive producer once in
a while. He wrote this long as but how does to how to
deconstruct the
credits. Oh, I should put that in the show notes.
Yeah, there was I lost it was a while ago. I just remembered it
now. But yeah, well Anyway, there's a little tip for you out
there that you won't get on any other show. A little
tip. A little tip. Hey, man, last night.
Mainstream media was carpet bombing Donald Trump. Oh, yeah,
unbelievable. carpet bombing is is the only appropriate
comparison. I'm amazed the guy's alive at all. It's,
it's astonishing to me that it took him so long but and it's
actually what's really astonishing is he he's just did
such a poor job of Fending them off. I think he just dropped the
ball. And I think he loves to
know. Oh, no, it was a huge B 12 moment. He totally if he got
flustered. He fucked up. He fought
70 so he could have been 12 moments. And this is definitely
one of them. And they didn't waste any time. And you're right
carpet bomb is the only way to do it. Just to put it
now. And it was it was I'm looking like Dude, do you know
what's coming out of your face right now? Because you just had
a really fucking stupid, and I think he was just flustered.
Yeah, and yeah, so he messed that up big time. He's gonna
have to eat crow. From what we're talking about, in case you
didn't see it is he wound up saying that? If a woman has an
abortion, then the woman should be penalised. It just, we
demolished on it. And I have to say that to who was it was.
Whoever was interviewing, was it Chris Matthews punished it was
it Chris Matthews who was interviewing him I forget.
Matthews was Yeah, Matthews was and Matthews was peppering, he
flustered him he flustered. I don't know why he would even do
Chris Matthews show.
But he totally flushed it him. And Trump, of course, from one
hour or two later said, Oh, no, this is a statement. I think
he's if he doesn't do the following, he's an idiot. This
is exactly the moment when he should come out and say, hey,
you know what? Everyone wants to hear me say it. Yeah, I made a
mistake. I'm sorry, I was wrong. Boom, done. That's what I'd
advise.
I'm stunned that he hasn't done that. Me to me system. But this
is the point in the campaign where consultants
should be listened to Yes, this is where they gotta bring it in.
You got to hit because there are people that are you know,
because right now he's just, he's probably irked about this
and he's not handling the the retraction properly. And you're
exactly right. What he should do is apologise. And say he was
wrong, you know, it just say he was wrong. He was like, he was
confused. It's completely idiotic, you're gonna be
confused to when you get the red button.
Now, what I did want to do is because last last night, and I
don't have all the names these people because I was recording
this all off the television and I'm just cutting it as soon as
possible. And so it's not that important. But we had Don Lemon,
who was in charge of the carpet bombing and pooper Of course, as
well. And Don Lemon. Well, not he but you're about to hear some
funny stuff. He brought in to right wing radio host to says, I
for don't know the names. So he drummed him up from somewhere.
And he had both of them to come into comment now what they're
commenting on in this particular clip is not about the not about
the abortion gaffe. This is about Michelle fields, which is
now just such epic proportions, this incredible, outrageous
event that took place. And I just wanted you to hear some of
the words they're using to describe Donald Trump. So these
are, I guess, technically Republican surrogates, but
certainly not for Donald Trump on with Don Lemon, who is the
guy is orgasmic,
you know, as a female reporter, Breitbart, where Michelle Fields
was working was very friendly to the Trump campaign. So I mean,
the sort of excuse that that Donald Trump's campaign
initially gave at the very start of this was Shall I didn't know
that you were with Breitbart. So the fact that that was sort of
the excuse that I didn't know you were with Breitbart? If if
he's willing to do that to someone who is the most friendly
campaign, the most friendly outlet possible to his campaign?
Who is he going to do that? Who's going to going to do that
to next The Washington Post CNN? Oh, my God, what do you do next?
You're not going to just be an arm read. I mean, this is sort
of his test. If you can get away with sort of man handling the
press in this manner. There's no stopping
Oh, you could be kicking everybody's ass. There's no
stopping him. No stopping.
Right did we we've talked about it. You had the clip and then
you see the video. Let's do the deconstruction site so you can
get through
we're gonna do the deconstruction in a minute. This
is just the funny so now Okay, so let's ratchet it up one
notch, let's go to the other person,
she should not have been doing that. And she didn't fall to the
ground.
Don's gonna get a response based upon what to Trump's it
wasn't dragged to the ground and all of the things that she said,
Andrew, so I want to stick up for people. And I don't want to
ruin somebody's life, it would have been very easy for me to
do. So why are
you shaking your head Bethel? He sounds like a domestic abuser. I
mean, she didn't fall to the ground. She wasn't that badly
hurt. She had a pen in her hand. It could have been anything. She
was vetted by the Secret Service. Everyone on that
campaign has been travelling together. They know who she is a
no, she's with Breitbart. And now suddenly, if she wasn't that
badly hurt. I mean, you sort of you hear these excuses from
domestic abusers. You know, it was just the bad guy. It's not
like I broke
you crunch through it. But I want you to hear that. Just
here. She is calling him a domestic abuse
guy. It's not like I broke her arm. It's not like I killed her.
I mean, this is very classic misogyny. And I'm one of the
last people that ever use that term willy nilly.
Wow. willy nilly. I like to know who this is because she's not
one of the big three that I know of.
He mentioned her name and home and
she should admit it and all of a stick up for people. And it's
very easy for me to do so. Why are you shaking your head Beth?
Beth. Beth.
I have no All right now so so the carpet bombing is on the
part that carpet Grace it's just it's great. Britain now let's
bring now I have to say Don then brought in some some other
another right wing female talk show there were no men who could
weigh in on the issue of course because of course not what do we
know about battery or so? We're just all abusers domestic abuse.
And here's
what she said. I can't believe what I'm hearing I heard the
term domestic abuser and wow. First of all, their their facts
are completely wrong. I believe one of them said that they knew
who Michelle Fields was because she covered the the Trump beat
for Breitbart. That's completely wrong. She didn't cover the
Trump beat. The regular reporter for Breitbart that covers Donald
Trump was sick that day. So they sent Michelle so please know
your facts before you chime in on this. So no, they didn't know
who she was. All they saw was a very aggressive woman coming up
to Mr. Trump touching his arm. The Secret Service stated that
she touched him twice, they had warned her to stop and she
continued to do so. So if anything, she committed battery
on Donald Trump. You see in the video that he flinches, jerks
back that's in the surveillance video that everybody has seen.
So this was a defensive move on his part. And Cory comes in and
steps in to avoid the situation to get between them. How on
earth is this even an issue? This was an aggressive reporter
who fails to do her job, didn't ask questions at the q&a she was
supposed to, and then got annoyed probably just because
Donald Trump ignored her she wasn't able to ask her question
and embellish this crazy story. I don't know how this has become
an issue. And it's disgusting, frankly, to hear somebody use
the term domestic abuser, when there are women in this country
daily that truly are victims of domestic abuse. I'm angry to
even hear that as a woman, and most of all, as a conservative.
So this is an alternative story. And what is interesting about
this is apparently she was not the regular reporter. And she
was only there for the for the first time filling in because
the regular reporter was sick. Taking into account the audio,
which I think we should replay in a moment. The video doesn't
really show all that much. And you'll notice during this whole
conversation, no one is playing the audio, they're only showing
the video and giving you a narrative of what they believe
they're seeing. But you have to understand that the one of the
largest investors in the Breitbart News Network is Robert
Mercer. He runs a hedge fund Renaissance technologies. He's
also one of the donors of the pro cruise super PAC. So if you
have something like this, where these two people also
immediately stood up and left, I'm quitting because Breitbart
is not supporting me. Fishy, to say the least very fishy. Now,
Cooper continued this and this one. I like this one a lot. Oh,
actually, let's just hear Ben Shapiro quickly because, of
course, he's also left the douche bag, man. What do you
say? What are your thoughts?
The charges levied against Corey Lewandowski?
I mean, I think that it's the police's job to decide whether a
charge is merited or not and simple battery is merited under
Florida law.
Isn't it crazy? How Ben Shapiro sounds like Ted Cruz.
People don't have to kind of realise that he was a 12 I think
he's like 12 or 10 or 12 year old those conservative wonder
can da todibo use to its spouse the conservative principles that
are kind of modern conservative principles that you might get
from Ted Cruz are some of these people that harp on the
Constitution. And I believe as he's gotten older because he
still gets a lot of attention, and he's still a fast talker.
And he has always had a quick read, report replies to things.
He, I think is disappointed in his career path because he ended
up on Breitbart, which is not like, you know, the New York
Times that he's gonna start something up.
It appears to it appears to me that this was a setup, it's
certainly a possibility, considering all of the crap that
went down with this, including, well, let's just play it now
including the audio, which we just did not playing it anymore.
That's the thing that is so incredibly lame, and we played
it for you on episode 8075 episodes ago, and this was okay,
here's it play it again. Mr. Trump, you went after the late
Scalia for affirmative action do you still are you so against
affirmative action? Thank you Yeah, he just like he just
didn't like was that for you? Yeah. Like where are you? That
was insane. That was insane. Oh my gosh, I've never had I put it
in my story. Yeah, go for it. That's really go for oh my god
like fashional don't wait, he just did. What was a threat
where
you? Nothing and those rats?
There we go. So that's why they don't play the audio because
it's not ratings worthy. There's nothing going on dating, nothing
going.
There's another. There's another little kind of a thing that's
always bugged me about this. They keep there was an end a
Washington Post reporter witnessed it. Yeah. But he never
chimes in and says what he witnessed what he witnessed was
what is revealed in that, that audio taping witness that yeah,
witnessed it, but it doesn't mean a witness battery. He just
witnessed it.
And I want to talk about battery in a moment. But first, let's go
back to CNN, with the carpet bombing pooper on for women,
five with Cooper. And this is all it says all women following
at the moment. And then he brings in appropriately brings
in another woman who doesn't like it. And she triggered one
of the panellists. So I have to say trigger warning, trigger
warning trigger warning,
and it is unfair, both from a journalistic standard to presume
that Mr. Lewandowski is guilty, and it's unfair from a criminal
justice standard. And and I'm quite frankly ashamed that that
women would would
that is the trigger ashamed trigger,
quite frankly, a shame that that women would would who are
journalists would go out and presume this man guilty in the
court of public opinion.
Let me just point out the secret service for you know, on the
record says they don't comment on anything like this. And the
Daily Mail is the Daily Mail. When
will CNN and CNN Anderson take that into consideration?
I find it astonishing that this is the first time I've heard
Kelly say the word is shamed. But it's not. She's ashamed of
women standing up for a woman who was assaulted by the
campaign manager of her candidate.
Now you have to understand in today's millennial culture,
shaming someone is about the worst thing you can do. So when
you said I am ashamed of you, you are shaming someone, and
this on college campuses around the country is a huge trigger
that this
is the first time you're ashamed. You don't know how to
shade on it know that it is another viewer to the fact that
Donald Trump has called women fat pigs. You're not ashamed of
the fact that Donald Trump decided he said he was going to
pay for the legal fees of someone who assaulted a
protester. You're not ashamed of the fact that Donald Trump can
never apologise for anything that
Tara when you champion
those things what you're ashamed of women, Sandy, journalism,
standing up here someone else in a situation that person running
for president should have absolutely no involvement in
whatsoever. This should have been handled over with done but
he has an inability to
apologise like Kelly responded. Well, I have
said many times, Tara, it's disingenuous to say that I have
not disowned those things because on this very network,
she said it was inappropriate for Donald Trump to retweet that
picture of Heidi Cruz however, you just said a man who's who's
guilty of assault, Tara, do you know that that You are defaming
someone you could actually be brought into court for alleging
anything that she did that that is could be a possible offence
that she did that? Yep, I think so too. I think she's writing
again, so
do not do. So. Tara. No, you're not tear but I would watch your
words because that's a violation of the highest principle of
journalists, journalists. Are you kidding me? It's a violation
of criminal justice. tend to presumed guilty on TV when there
are to varying accounts, Tara? Oh,
I love it. Really? Really? Really, really? Don't we all
know really that this is the man. I'm talking one time about
Donald
Trump's words when he
you know, Anderson Cooper could get a gig on Bravo. Hurting
these
angry women everywhere. He's thinking to himself by grey,
they're just thinking himself. That's why I'm gay. That's what
he's thinking to
Donald Trump's words when, when he lives in one sentence, he
says one thing and then says something else. You're not
concerned about Donald Trump when he says that women should
be punished for having abortions and then changes his mind three
times later. You know,
I love that changed his mind three times later. I think he
changed my ones
later. You know, after two hours when he got in trouble for
I haven't been asked to put words into my mouth when I've
been asked
sistent Lee defend the indefensible with Donald Trump
when you're doing it again today. No, I
don't. I just point out to you that I did it.
But the carpet bombing was everywhere, including a rare
occurrence from the podium at the White House during the daily
briefing with spokes hold just earnest I am
confident that neither Obama nor President Bush would tolerate
someone on their staff being accused of physically assaulting
a reporter. Lying about it and then blaming the victim. That is
completely unacceptable behaviour.
I think I forgot to play the Ben Shapiro thing we talked so long
about him. 20 seconds.
What are your thoughts on the charges levied against Corey
Lewandowski?
I mean, I think that it's the police's job to decide whether a
charge is merited or not and simple battery is merited under
Florida law clearly. And, you know, Corey Lewandowski is a
lying liar who lies his boss is a lying liar who lies and about
thugs.
I thought thugs were black people. I'm confused. Now.
I always thought those were black people. Now all of a
sudden we're
told the Trump I don't understand how can I'm so
confused now.
I gotta get their act together in the glossary.
There. They should no kidding. I'm kidding. On the glossary.
Now. They're mostly do you have anything you want to insert?
Because I got tonnes of stuff. If
no, I mean, I just kind of let it slide. I was thinking if you
wanted to talk about it's fine. I was. I only think I let the
last show I made a point of I think we're talking about Trump.
Yeah. Which is boring. But I again I did see all this I saw
the action. I was rolling my eyes most of the time. The one I
thought was good. That ya know if you have that clip or not,
but the only one where they really thought the pooper nailed
to Trump on it was on the town hall. Where they brought these
to these guys you get these debates are stupid. I don't
think anyone listens anymore. But he did have this. When Trump
made the comment. Well, he started it about the picture of
the ugly wife
yet doesn't respond to my five year old.
Yeah. And then Cooper says that's their sponsor, a five
year old and then Trump was still flat footed. I think he's
been flat footed. He's off his off his cycle tires. Trump
should have said if he wanted to get the get the big laugh was no
I think is more like a 12 year old. Five had five year old
Yeah, yes.
Yes, yes. Yes. That would have been so much better. I agree. I
agree.
Okay, so Hillary, of course, Hillary Clinton jumped right on
board. Oh, yeah. And what she did was to, I think she made a
mistake as well. As she is now pivoting towards the what do you
call it towards the general election? And she said, Oh,
that's the way all the Republicans think and talk. I
think that's a mistake. I believe she should have just
kept it kept hammering Trump. And because the other guys came
out and said, No, we don't believe in that. And that's not
what we're about. And then this is a mistake, etc. But what was
more interesting is when she was on the phone with Cooper,
something cropped up again.
You go through the last month, and there's just a lot of
evidence that his behaviour has been in citing violence. You're
obviously trying to fend off a primary challenge from consent
or standard.
Exactly. Exactly. And roll it back. You gotta listen. It has
not gotten any better. Her cough is bad. You're robbing
obviously. Trying to merge challenge from from Senator
Sanders is bad.
He's like, it's been a while she's had this cough
has been Yeah, she's got something wrong. She's got an
ailment. Yeah.
Yeah, definitely needs to be careful on that. Very, very
careful. Okay, then we have this was
Hillary got an endorsement
from Chuck Schumer. Hammer, bow. Another guy we should be
advising Have a listen
Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary,
Hillary. Ray,
that's Chuck Schumer going Chuck Schumer, insane. He is insane,
insane. Re la Rick kill array, whatever you want to say.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, then we have I think I'm missing something here that I
wanted to bring up and oh, well, we'll have to find that later.
Okay, we can move on to the people for Bernie Sanders, just
to just to cover some election stories here. And then I want to
roll into something that you started off or that actually
we've been talking about an email, rare email thread, we've
been back and forth with some at least three times happens.
People in Arizona are very, very angry about what happened with
the with the polling, from what I understand. The state removed
a lot of polling places. And this wasn't covered very well or
just I missed him. He was watching something else. But
that was covered
pretty well. Yeah. It wasn't covered with any editorial bent.
Ah, all right, just kind of covered by the news.
Well, the people of Arizona or people of Arizona had a town
hall where they could air their grievances and it was packed.
This is voter suppression at his best standing a
lot of four or
five. These are all Bernie supporters, by the way of hours
to vote. How can we call a winner when there are 1000s of
people still in line? This is a travesty of justice. I really
feel there's criminal intent. They had one polling location
for 100,000 students. There were tonnes of people like myself
that had to turn around people that were crying people that
were in pain, they could not handle the wait times and they
left voting
must be simple. This last election as you see, it was not
simple.
We the People know that our electoral process has been
corrupted. The fraudulent fiasco guys does a presidential primary
on March 22 2016 needs to be nullified and constituents need
to be allowed to vote. Some of us to revote the corruption has
become so established that it got comfortable so comfortable
that it got lazy so lazy that you got caught. My favourite, my
favourite thing tolerated we demand that our votes be
counted. We demand a revote on June 7 With an open primary
Okay, wait for my favourite guy this is ridiculous. I want you
guys totally Hey man,
legalised marijuana the 100,000 students from one polling place
is the giveaway
of course it is that's his audience walk with it Yes.
Before I forgot to mention I looked up the legal definition
of battery just to go back to Michelle fields for a thing ah
yes and there are a lot of exceptions when battery is
justified battery which battery can be just so you know battery
can be touching even touching your clothing doesn't have to be
in a battery is touching but with some form of intent to
achieve something which doesn't necessarily have to be violence
the exceptions however you if someone is committing a felon
the you can or you can arrest them CITIZENS ARREST you could
you can battery them but most interestingly just find the
exact spot in this definition it's all of course in the in the
show notes at 812 dot no agenda notes.com Here we go. The Sorry,
just just skipped me and we go. Here we go. We have at one
situation at battery may be justified as a necessary means
of defence in some situations one against the plaintiffs
assaults in the following instances in defence of himself
his wife, his child or and this is very good. A servant may
commit battery to protect his master and these use are his
words are used in the legal definition master servant
relationship and I don't know the definition of master servant
relationship he's got slavery but in the legal definition a a
servant may commit battery to protect his master and that
would be justified me what happened a jack justified means
now I'm not a lawyer But I've done two divorces myself
successfully.
So you must know something. Yeah. Back to
Bernie. But we had a little email thing with one of our
producers about what was happening with the media
blackout on Bernie Sanders in, in Washington State. And he had
some assumptions. He swept, did he sweep,
kicked ass in Washington, I think 70% or something like
that.
And we had a three way, the three of us on email about why
and your assertion, which I think is correct, is my
assertion
is very simple. Bernie is the only person who's ever been
sincere, because everyone else talks a big game about campaign
finance reform, but he's actually sincere about it. At
least it's believed that he's sincere, believed enough so that
the networks aren't going to cover him at all, no matter how
he packs him and he'll fill up a football field we've looked at
the Rolling Stones could do no better, and it won't be covered.
Meaning Well, there there will cover a small gathering of 40
harpies, in an auditorium listening to Hillary, they got
two cameras for that. They won't cover Bernie and his reason is
because they're scared to death that he is he is essentially.
And I use the word essentially, he's essentially threatening
their business, their bottom line, their bottom line is
threatened by his campaign finance reform, if it's going to
be implemented in the way he's describing it. And it's possible
that there's two things going on one, it's possible, you can
actually make it happen, which that won't happen. But the real
problem is him talking about it so much. He keeps talking and
talking and talking about it, and the networks, and look, he's
gonna give people ideas. They're gonna get ideas and is going to
hurt us it's going to make it's going to screw our bottom line.
I mean, Les Moonves talks about this openly how much money CBS
makes over these campaigns, because of all the money that's
spent, yep. Yeah, he's done. He's never gonna get any
coverage.
So the genesis of this is very interesting. Then I came across
an interview with Adam, I've never seen this guy. His name
is. What is his name? It's like, second. He has a show. It's
interestingly, and interestingly enough, his show is called the
agenda. What's this guy's name? I'll come up with an excerpt of
it. Yeah, he's one of these guys. Like a mid level guy. You
see, he was somewhere else. I don't know if this is on TV, or
if it's, but it was really a very guys very nice
conversationalist. He listens very closely. He's not trying to
jump in all the time. It's a half hour. And he interviewed
Michael White. Do you remember Michael White? Probably not. I
do vaguely he was the really the Occupy founder, he started
occupy. Right, very, very intelligent guy. And because of
this email thread, and I know the universe does this,
sometimes, it fell right into this conversation about Bernie.
And we can now go back to the roots of the Occupy movement to
see how this came to be. And you'll recall, we were very,
very focused. And we were talking about Occupy Wall
Street. Weeks and weeks and weeks before the media even
acknowledged it was happening. You remember this?
Oh, yeah. effect. It was we were much of our discussion was about
how it's being ignored. Yeah.
It was, I didn't go back and get anything. But there's tonnes of
clips from around that time. So the birth of Occupy listen to
this,
what made you think that this kind of protest was different
from anything that had preceded it?
I think part of it was the historical situation that was
going on. And I think that part of it also was this new shift
towards leader lessness that we were seeing in Spain, that was
really inspiring, I think, to see that the people of Spain
were kind of doing these consensus based general
assemblies, and they weren't marching. They weren't, you
know, but instead, they were kind of like manifesting the
ideal of democracy. So I think it had some kind of magical
thinking about, we could manifest a perfect form of
democracy and like, just
hold that thread through what did you think that you might be
able to achieve by doing this?
I think that, you know, the sky was the limit. I think that Kala
and I and I think a lot of people were thinking about
regime change in the sense of getting rid of the power of
money to influence our democracy, which you know, are
2010, the US Supreme Court said that corporations and unions can
give unlimited money to candidates and we know that the
candidate who spends the most wins 90% of the time. And so we
were trying to overturn the highest decision made by the
highest court, which, you know, at that time, it sounds naive
now, but they had toppled the Tunisian dictator. They had
toppled the dictator of Egypt. We thought we could topple the
financial dictator of America.
So there you have the genesis of this campaign of Bernie I would
say. And, of course, the next question is I really liked this
guy. His name is Steve Paikin pa i Aki n so piking pike in
something like that. And of course, the question any no
agenda listener or producer says we'll have that work out for
you. Right? How did you do there with with Occupy Wall Street,
dude?
And how much of that plan do you think actually came true?
Well, we didn't achieve that goal for sure. You know, and
that's why I call Occupy Wall Street a constructive failure.
You know, it failed to achieve what we set out to achieve. But
in failing, I think it taught us a lot about the limitations of
contemporary activism. It taught us about the limitations of that
storyline of activism we were following and chasing with
Occupy Wall Street. So in the end, I mean, it's good if
failure, we learn from our failures, but I do think it's
important to acknowledge it as a failure so that we can learn
from it.
Now, I like this guy. I like what he's saying. He's very, he
totally acknowledges what happened and is and I was ready
to kind of drop out on my one wall, the mullet millennial
crap, calm, and I see the chat rooms already responding that
way, but I believe there's some nuggets in here. Are you still
with me? John? We're still connected.
Yeah, no, I'm listening. Okay.
Now we go to Oh, yeah, I'm
actually looking at the agendas website, just to see I'm looking
for some All right, well, make
sure you're listening because there's there's I'm listening
very comedy gold. So the protests, so what do you they
realised the protest did not work. Okay.
Did you get close to your goal? Did you get somewhere close to
your goal?
I think that every social movement, every protest is
really like It's like testing a hypothesis. And I think that the
great thing about Occupy Wall Street is that we tested a
hypothesis that basically has been dominating contemporary
activism for so long. That hypothesis being that the best
way to get social change is to get millions of people into the
streets rallying around a unified message. We tested that,
you know, and I think that we definitively tested that I don't
think we're going to I think that we, we created some of this
by the 82 countries, 1000 encampments. I mean, you can't
really say it should have been bigger, or we should have had
more people with money big, it was plenty big, you know. So so.
So the beautiful thing is, we tested that hypothesis, we
tested the idea. And now we know it's not true, you know,
why you were unable to sway the balance of power. And basically,
our theory of change was wrong. I think that at the at the very
base of it. The people in power don't have to listen to protest.
This is this is I think, something that we don't, we
don't want to hear. We don't want to hear that because it
means maybe we don't live in a democracy. But the fact is that
we've been operating under this illusion that there's some sort
of law that says, hey, if you can get X number of people into
the streets, then well, because we live in a democracy, your
representatives will somehow like have to listen to you. But
you know, that says it sometimes does work. It seems to work in
some cases. And it's very strange. Like I think that it's
sometimes works, when to justify when it works to justify a pre
existing tendency within the government, for example, like
they they kind of overthrow Mubarak, because that Mubarak
stepping down was kind of what the Western geopolitical system
wanted. And so they could point to the student, the protesters,
and they could say, like, Look, you got people in the streets,
you have to listen to them, you need to step down. But when
those exact same tactics were basically imported into America,
Obama completely ignored the movement. He didn't mention
Occupy Wall Street until it was evicted from Zuccotti until
basically, he was sure that it was done is when he started to
kind of talk about it and call it that park in New York, right
at the park that we the first encampment, you know, so I think
that that that gives us this kind of that's the one of the
reasons activists make a mistake is because we we start to see
that sometimes protests seem to work but it seems like that's in
the times when the kind of justifies a pre existing
disposition of the of the governments here
is weird, no memo,
I got a little thing to insert. A friend of mine works for the
New York Times it was an activist during the Vietnam War.
There were there's during the Vietnam War, there was nothing
but protests. There were tonnes of them. There were everywhere.
People were bitching and moaning constantly. They were and they
were violent protests and people were getting killed, and there's
all kinds of action everywhere. And he says he was so depressed
when Dean Rusk wrote his biography, who was the Dean
Rusk? Dean Rusk was I think the defence the head of the defence
department or secretary of state one of the two, but I think
defence department during the Kennedy or Johnson
administration, or both Johnson and he was we wrote his
biography McNamara was I think defence is McNamara and Ken
Ross. Were these two guys it was one of their books today read
this in their in their biographies. And he said, it
turns out that the protesters had absolutely zero effect on
Washington. They were not being paid any attention to didn't
give a crap and they were going to do what they were gonna do
and they're gonna do it the way they were going to do it anyway.
And it was just, he said to himself, I felt like an idiot. I
went through all this work, and it was just like it was futile
it was not there was nothing to it. I didn't get anywhere was
wasn't accomplishing anything. What
I like is that he doesn't he says it was really it's really
weird, protesting to work when the government wants it to work
and strange how it doesn't work when the government done but
doesn't want it. Yeah. The protests in Tahrir Square were
abused by the US government for Jing Chang and this is what they
were modelling it on is on this regime change. And we can do
this
he was suckered by the Arab Spring. Yes. And, of course, we
know that the movement got hijacked, which he addresses
here with the term I was not familiar with,
when you would try to interview the leader of Occupy, there was
no such thing. And when you tried to get the single message
that came out of Occupy, there was no such thing. Have you come
to the conclusion that that was a mistake?
I mean, it's a difficult question. And we told people,
let's go down to Wall Street, let's come up with our one
demand. And let's, we thought, let's make that one demand, you
know, set up a set of a presidential commission to get
money out of politics. So but but the thing is, I was based in
Berkeley, California colour and Adbusters, based in Vancouver.
So when the idea went to New York City, it was taken on by
people who believed in something called prefigurative anarchism,
which I had never heard of. And in under that paradigm, you
don't make demands. Instead, you you build the ideal society
within the, you know, microcosm of the protest. And, and so, it
wasn't, it wasn't so much a mistake as it was the only way
it could have gone
free figurative anarchism.
Yeah. I never heard of that either.
Well, prefigurative politics, according to the book of
knowledge, are modes of organisation and social
relationships that strive to reflect the future society being
sought by the group. So but they were seeking was leaderless
democracy.
And yeah, which is a form of anarchism. Yes.
And here's him talking about that leaderless movement and how
that worked out. Mic, check, mic, check. Hello, my check.
John, mic check.
My jam, I
check my check.
I think that the beautiful thing of Occupy is that it did give us
this idea that of horizontal ism and leader lessness, that we
should no longer invest the will of our movements into single
individuals, and that there is a kind of power in the group,
which is, which is really an idea that we kind of got from
Spain, you know, they also with their consensus base assemblies,
it's not saying we just made up of something that was kind of
floating around the global movement. I think that was
beautiful. I think it's true. And I think that leader lessness
wasn't a complete failure, but the way in which it was
practised during Occupy with a very strict consensus based, you
know, a paralysed us.
Yeah, attention. If you're in college, if you're a millennial
pay attention, what you were trying to do does not work
we could not come up with we could not come to complex
decisions. We in fact, like you're saying we could not put
forward articulate spokespersons because people like Colin and I
and other articulate spokespersons would recuse
ourselves. In fact, we would say we're not taking any interviews.
And there was a kind of tendency to tear down any potential
leaders or any charismatic individuals. So the way in which
leaders this was practised, I think was possibly not correct.
But the the ideal, I think, is still something that we need to
figure out and chase after. Yeah, no, don't
chase, please don't chase after that. Now, of course, and this
is wrapping it up. This guy, that's who I like he asked the
right question,
follow my twisted logic here, if you will, okay. Can you take
some credit in the fact that Bernie Sanders is as popular as
he is right now, because in effect, he's running a campaign
on a lot of the themes that you guys raised, namely, the system
is crooked, there's too much political money in it at the
99%. And their agenda is being completely disregarded for the
corporate agenda in America. Now, he's not gonna win the
nomination, but he's having a hell of a run. You take any
credit net?
I think that, yeah, I do. I mean, I think that Occupy Wall
Street, though, can take credit for the rise of Bernie Sanders
and Donald Trump in the sense that both of these candidates
represent people who are desperate for social change.
They're desperate for change. We haven't solved in the economic
inequalities that created our movement, back rent movement,
but at the same time, they are suspicious of the old protest
methods, they're looking for new new things. But you know, I
think my critique of both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders is that
they are still a regression to that old leader, leader based
style, it's still that there's still the system of like,
putting my hopes into the singular individual,
but they want to speak for the voiceless. Right? One. That's
that is one thing, those two very different guys have in
common, right, one of they want to represent people who feel
underrepresented.
Right. And I think that they are both the result of acknowledging
that there is this passion among the 99% that is willing to kind
of that wants someone who's going to say, I'm gonna smash
things up and make things different and that and so I
think that yeah, I think that it's it is it is a beautiful
thing, but at the same time, I'm a little bit weary of the of
them.
I don't think there's Is there any historical precedent for
leaderless democracy?
Not that I can think of now, there's always a leader. I mean,
the system that has been established is, is a top down,
it's a pyramid. There are people that don't want to lead they
don't want to have and there are people that want to be led.
Yeah, this is
the problem. Yes. What's your do most people want to be led?
There's a lot of people that want to be the fact I remember
listening to Serpico, the cop cop in New York. Yeah, the New
York cop who was who they made a movie about this guy. Yeah. He
His lament was that when he find when this all came out, and if
the corruption of the New York Police Department came to the
fore and now became a TV, so short term TV celebrity. One of
the things he said, After this, he says you didn't like doing
that, because he says, it turns out that all people wanted from
him on all these talk shows and all these other things, for him
to tell them what to do. Right. And he never wanted to do that.
He says, he says, he came to the conclusion that a lot of people,
if not most people want to be led around by the nose. Yeah, he
couldn't do it. That was not his style, his style, he wanted to
he was a cop. Right? And he wasn't, he wasn't like, you
know, a mayor or somebody who tries to get people to do
certain things. And I always remember him going on and on
about them, because some people don't want to be leaders. And
some people, there are anarchists out there that don't
want to be led, and they don't want to be a leader.
But what is the thinking behind leaderless democracy? This
thinking is flawed.
It's a utopian thought process that doesn't exist. It's not.
It's based, there are people you met these people there, they sit
there a lot of emerging Hollywood, and they don't see
any reason for the system being the way it is. Because after
all, they've done fine for themselves. It's got nothing to
do with anybody but of course, and they don't like the idea of
somebody bossing them around. For those who don't mind to do
what about a director in a movie?
What ideally he didn't have one final comment regarding the
current protest against Trump, which Trump protesters should
listen to, for example,
occupy started in September and ended around in was evicted in
November, American elections happened in November, had there
been an election, during the height of Occupy Wall Street, we
could have totally shifted the course of that election. And so
I think that what I would say to people who are going into the
Trump rallies and kind of disrupting is we need to think
bigger than that. I think that disrupting the Trump rallies is
like that small game in terms of activism. I mean, any activists
can do that with 20. Friends. Yeah. What's bigger than that,
though, is to figure out how would you build a social
movement that could beat Donald Trump in an election rather than
trying to disrupt him? Let's Eclipse him, let's use that kind
of fire these tapping into that we basically created I mean, we
created that intensity, you know,
change your avatar is what I would recommend that change your
Facebook profile pic. That'll help that'll really do it for
you. Really do it for you. But I liked that I thought it was
interesting to trace that back to occupy and that was exactly
what the Movement was. And it failed. Because of mainly
because of the leader lessness and no strategy, strategy. Lots
of tactics, but no strategy,
just like this, you know, these meetings that go on in Silicon
Valley where there's if they're left to their own devices that
you know, just it's a noodle boy. Yeah. Noodle we're talking
about here, noodle boy, little boy, here's Jay here. I gave a
Trump clip play. This was Trump screaming.
No, I saw off the mouse that they're too bright. Turn them
off. Turn them off. Let's go. Ready. Turn off the lights. Turn
off the lights. Turn off the lights turn them off.
I do have one video that we're always looking for the plants in
the audience. We've had the Marco screaming plant. We've had
the Ted Cruz screamers. We've had Trump as is done with
fantastic with the plants. He had. He had the best Mexican
lady come in, you know, Mexico and Mexicans love Donald Trump
had another Mexican lady come up and feel his hair to make sure
that it was not a wig.
Yeah. Little bull crap. Yeah.
So this piece that I have here, and I think I shed an actual
tear when I heard it was one of the best plants I've ever seen
in my life. And you know, when you it's not uncommon. I'll give
you an example. Let's say you have a charity for but an easy
one. We've all seen this growing up for people have no have low
social economic standing. I'm trying to say poor people
correctly, but I forget how to do it. Poor kids in Africa. So
on the cover of whatever report for a nonprofit, you'd see the
most horrific child of a perfect child with the really, she's
ribs the fly on his lip. Yeah, you know what I'm talking i It's
the money shot. We call that and I'm betting I'm not being an a
hole. This is how you talk and that's how nonprofits talk to we
want the money shot. So he had the equivalent of the money shot
brought in in the audience. They completely started Trump this
trunk. Yeah. Couldn't get fleetly messed it up because
although the audio is good, there is no good Good video of
this taking place now you could put a piece of together from
cell phone, video, whatever. So if this was a plan, which I
suspect because it hits three, it hits healthcare, it hits it
hits Trump on women. And I'm going to keep the last one
secret. And it is beautiful, but you've not seen it anywhere. It
has not been a report on mainstream. This was a rather
smaller Trump meeting. It looked like a rotary club. He was kind
of on a podium, there must have been a couple 100 people in the
room. And he gets the following question or comment from the
audience. Mr. Trump,
Melissa wants to thank you. She
says something to say, Okay. Hi. I'm Mr. Trump. I was Miss
Wisconsin, USA in 2005. And
I can see why.
Thank you. You have been I just want to say thank you. You saved
me in so many ways. In recent years, I've been struggling with
an incurable illness and I'm on homecare now it was caused by a
doctor's medical negligence and in those dark days fighting
right now all the tubes have been removed and I have a do not
resuscitate order. Okay.
We're setting it up. This is a former Miss Wisconsin before one
of Trump Trump's shaves on what to Trump shows I presume she's
terminally ill. They've taken all the tubes out. She's a do
not resuscitate was a dying woman.
I have a seven year old son. In those days in hospital I
received from you a handwritten letter that said to the bravest
woman I know. And
I remember that. Remember that? You especially wonderful,
beautiful woman. I mean just an amazing woman. And are you are
you doing Are you coming along? Okay?
No, sir. But that's okay. Because I'm here right now to
thank you in person and that was my biggest dream. And I wanted
to thank you because through you and your organization's my son,
who is Mexican Americans that Trifecta Mexican American
through your organization's and just being able to stand on that
stage with you back in 2005. The outpouring of love that came
from that ultimately provided my son when he graduates high
school with a full ride to college. Education.
And you know what we'll do we're gonna watch him, you're gonna
watch him. Watch him and we're gonna be watching you boy, okay,
but you're gonna hopefully be around you're not gonna have to
have anybody watching. You're going to hopefully be around
those doctors are going to be so wrong.
I love Trump for this. If doc fuck those doctors just so
wrong. We'll be helping you.
So we thank you, God bless you and just you know, he's a
Mexican American because of your efforts to college and I have
been writing letters to him for when I'm in heaven to tell him
God
she's laying it on to
a great responsibility to pay it forward just as you have done
for us and I can't think so nice.
She's gonna make her Mexican American son pay for just like
I'm sorry, I have to go down and say that okay,
the money shot.
And he said they screwed up they do not have the money shot. This
video and you know, CNN posted on their website. Listen to any
hugs or
kisses. goes wow, what a great woman that is. That's a great
woman. Great Mother. I remember that. And it's, it's
heartbreaking, but it's something beautiful is going to
happen. You watch something beautiful is going to happen.
Folks, I just want to say I almost like to leave it on that
because we can't top that. Amazing because
it was a plant. Obviously, you wouldn't say that it can't top
it.
But I was covered in the Daily Mail and the free Republicans
didn't get a lot of cover. Not at all. She is was Miss
Congeniality. So she had a lot of personality and could do
something like this easily. Whether she's actually sick or
not is another issue she probably is thinking she is it's
too easy to figure out that she's not a gift and it would be
bad. So she's something's wrong with her. And she
says Do Not Resuscitate. You're dead if Do Not Resuscitate is
yes, it has it.
Yeah, so she's got something wrong. I wish they would have
said what it was but
well, it's really it's really, really irrelevant. Guys really a
revelant
irrelevant because she's, she's obviously on board for this and
the irrelevant. What's interesting is that, that this
is not shown. No, and it's Eve
No media has gotten too much flack for giving him all that
publicity. And now they're trying to make up for it. Yeah.
And as they also I think once it dawned on everybody, this guy
could easily become the nominee. I think they were just on a
goof. Ghufron Ghufron. Yeah, Ghufron yay is great. Ooh, fun.
This is funny. Let's go cover the Trump thing. The rally is
a good time. We'll have a good time. Good time had by all.
Now, it's like, Oh,
I thought that was pretty interesting as just a piece. It
was a nice piece. It was a nice piece. Right? It got some people
to thank but I wanted to read you something. Something odd
happened in the world of podcasting, John world of
podcasting. And there's a lot of anger and hate and
disappointment going on. And quite honestly, we've lost one
we've lost a great one and I'm very, very sad about it MAN
OVERBOARD, MAN. Well, it's not just a man. It's like a whole
ship is overboard. Yeah, whole ship. That's the number one
podcast on iTunes. Are you familiar with the list of the
top list of iTunes podcasts?
I know how that thing raised is not very accurate. It's just
momentary popularity. It doesn't really.
Do you know what the number one is? Now, I don't. It is the Adam
Carolla show. Adam Carolla show and the Adam Carolla show is now
connected to podcast one that is norm Pattice is Westwood one
outfit. And there's a couple ways you can use that. But there
they are doing some subscription based thing. It's like they're
trying to rival Sirius XM, I think by saying Hey, pay 799 a
month and you get all these great podcasts. But there are
ads in the podcast and Adam Carolla show is now also on
podcast one, but he made an announcement. He said that
they're going to start twice a week. I guess they do five shows
a week. Twice a week they will do a clean show, because
according to Adam Carolla himself, the problem is our
content. I'm sear swearing a blue streak, and companies like
Cadillac do not want to advertise brand safe, this is
what he didn't say but the term is brand safe. And so he is
starting with two shows a week which will be clean, not
bleeped, but clean. Not using language. And the and the the
audience is outraged. If you look at the the subreddit for
for Adam Carolla. There's like there's like, Oh, that's it.
They
want Him to cuss up a storm. Let me
No, no, no, no, John, they understand that this is just the
beginning. Oh, yeah. First of all, you're yourself filtering
yourself at your censoring yourself, which is, you know,
now he's used to doing that, because he comes from
mainstream.
Yeah. Which makes me wonder why makes it such a plus, to be
honest.
Well, we know we know what happens next. And next, you
know, print Don't, don't, please don't talk about immigration,
because Cadillac doesn't like it. All the advertisers have
this. This is why I left my own company. For this very reason.
If we look at the kind of stuff that we cover on this show, with
or without the cussing, I don't think the cussing really adds
anything. It's just the cussing just a shotgun wake, in fact, in
his case, is to wake the audience up, I listen to this.
And he was like, it just went on and I couldn't get any clips
from it. But it's eventually and if you'd like again, listen to
the content that we provide and the stuff that we talked about.
Where we're there's there is some cussing in the show, but is
this beside the point? Because the topics themselves are so
controversial? Yes, generally speaking on our show, that we
couldn't get away with any of it.
Exactly. And what would the audience mean?
I mean, I for example, saying that the staff of PC World are
lesbians I remember saying that earlier in the show is not that
good boom, you're fired. B whether true or not by the way
yeah.
It's not the crossing and I think that I think that the the
audience is smart enough to know that that's they're smart enough
to know they
always say PC Magazine shows that BC words your PC Magazine
is not
okay. Yeah, but let's please correct that because like they
like you still PC World.
I one time was good. You have a story. I'm at one of these
galleries are giving out awards. And the places is just this is a
joke. Nobody got I don't even know why I'm going to tell this
joke. I think I'm I'm at the mall where I don't like PC
World. I'm at this gala. And I said there's these all these
helium balloons and I made the comment as before I'm giving an
award I said I should grab one of these helium balloons and
inhale and and breathe into it and then start to talk. So no,
no and I shouldn't do that. because then you'll think you're
at a PC World event. And I personally thought that was
hilarious. I like it. Yeah, most people go home. But it's
I'm only bringing this up. It's important to understand that the
new model is the one we have been pioneering for eight years
plus you it is purely Oh, we have to have some interaction
and engagement from you know, the audience is the production
team. The producers produce this show, which includes financial
support. That is the model of the future, not the advertising.
I'm not against advertising, but you get what you pay for you get
what you receive, you cannot view will always be controlled
you the minute you view you have to go careful on topics that
will be the next conversation that the Adam Carolla will have
with the podcast one advert sales team because they're
behind it. They're the ones that are saying, dude, we're giving
you this guarantee this now I don't know for sure. But I
here's this guaranteed amount of money per month, but we need to
recoup that and we can't get the high end advertisers because
you're cussing, which of course is they can't sell it is what
they're saying. And it's not about the cussing. It's about
any controversy, I'm sure. And now people will know how to
control Adam Carolla by going after his advertisers I'm just
sad because the guy is doing it but I'm just sad that that's
that's
go after the average and it just doesn't take much. It's like a
couple of the clip um, from the agenda the kid Yeah, he says, he
says you can anyone can just get 20 friends and go and disrupt
some somebody's events, right? That's what you do. Same thing
with this. All you need is you and 20 friends and you start to
hound one advertiser, Cadillac. And in fact, Carolla had this
kind of a I don't believe this story, to be honest about it.
But he said somebody was taping his comedy act, from the stage
with a recorder and then sending the tape of this to advertisers
and saying to them, really? That's what he says, Ah, it's
there said he was saying it's sending the tapes to advertisers
or or potential advertisers with a note, do you really want to
support this guy with advertising?
This has social justice warrior written all over it?
It is possible. It's possible somebody could do that. You
can't do that with listener supported rate with listen
supported podcasting, radio, or any sort of broadcasting.
Broadcasting has its own issues, because the government has some
control. But it's just not possible. But it is possible.
And I think you're right that they will control the content of
Adam Carolla show, same way they do with everybody else's show
that's supporting I'm
going to show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
In fact, we have people that we thank be willing to help us. And
if I can find my keyboard, losing in the in the depths of
the under the desk. All right. Then we'll start off by thanking
these folks. Key and I think I use the word right,
y'all. Thank you, y'all. Thank y'all. Thank y'all.
He's MC COVID. I think Bo Obama said, y'all,
he's always saying folks in y'all.
Yeah, he gives me Kolpin and Imperial Pennsylvania 18545. And
he says he took his took a look at my donation history, while
setting a payment and damned if I wasn't within striking
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I'll do it quickly though, because we're
I don't need to do it now. No, no,
I say that like no, I say I'm saying within within tune to
what I'm saying. We're almost done, man. This it's not enough
time.
Is a clip I want to play to this comment needed. All right. This
is this is the problem with news.
All right, stop everybody. Oh, hold on.
Can't even keep a straight face. I can't even All right. What is
the problem
with okay, this is the snowpack report.
Okay. The Sierra snowpack provides about 30% of
California's water supply, and so snowmelt is important. And
while many rivers are running fast at this time of year, water
experts say our reservoirs will likely register only 90% of
capacity. And for those who enjoy nature, the message is
this Californians will still need to conserve. I think we've
had a great winner this year. But overall,
I think the future is not looking too great. And we need
to do a better job of conserving overall we can't get too
comfortable with the snowpack we have this year because the
future is not guaranteed. No guarantees at all. Wait a
minute.
What did I just hear there? What exactly did someone just tell
them
here this snowpack report and then they stuck a mic into some
kid's face. He wearing a giant baseball cap. He's just standing
there. He's been 19, maybe 20. And he gives this report as
though he's some sort of expert from the Geological Survey or
something. And it goes on and on about we can't be too. We can't
be too cautious. We have to do this. We have to do that. And
he's giving advice and he's making assumptions. He's just
some guy. This is the man on the street phenomenon, which has
been exploited by Jimmy Kimmel by the way. Yeah, it's just
blowhards on the street. They know this guy doesn't know
anything. Oh, why is he talking and why are they giving him high
priority? I just found it like, what is this guy? I was this
guy, some expert that we should be listening to. Why should we
be listening to him at all
as a dynamite question?
Well, that's the problem with news. I agree. You nailed that.
Adam Curtis, the documentarian from the UK. Yeah. If you go to
his website, you'll find he did a short piece. He did a short
movie like a 10 minute one, on this plague, specifically, about
how everyone has become the expert man. And she's become the
expert, which has been, I think thoroughly debunked by the
Kimmel show. Yes. Yes.
I want to talk about Turkey for a moment. Okay. And we well,
let's just remind everybody, because it wasn't the New York
Times very happy. Bittersweet. Mark Hall was we talked about
earlier producer. He has this movie, killing Edie
killing@film.com. And it's about the the Gulin finance charter
schools all over the world, but certainly in the United States,
and a lot of them in Texas and Marcus from Texas. And he showed
this film in I think UCLA, he showed it in New York, and the
New York Times reports that he's getting no love in Texas, they
are pretty much banning this film censoring. He can't get a
play. He can't get anyone to show his movie in Texas, which
is odd. Certainly weren't, you know, Texas is all about, you
know, changing education not having it federally run, but I
guess there's who knows what's going on with these schools,
these charter schools where you have a lot of, here's what
happens. Turkish educators, I'm doing air quotes for y'all folks
are getting H h1 B visa, as well as h1 B visa, the and they have
no qualifications to teach, and they wind up not taking all
their salary that goes somewhere else. Emad, you'll have to see
Mark's film really and eventually you'll be able to see
it. So who knows where that's going. And this could be going
into politics, I don't know. But for that to be censored, quote
unquote, not really. No one wants to show it in Texas is odd
and distorted makes
it Ultra odd. Is that Texas? Is one of these adamant Christian
Yeah, stays they get they get a special text books, and they're
all in on every one of these preachers and the kind of stuff
that goes on it. How does that jive with this at all? I
don't know. No sense. Other than the billions of dollars that is
flowing through the charter school system and politics. And
of course, the Austin is complete Obama bot headquarters.
So I was very enough Texas, Austin, very hard to get
anything that's not the rest of them. No, no, no, but even
Dallas and Houston are getting a bit a little body. Now, on the
heels of this, something happened, which was much larger
than I initially understood it to be. And we have recalled
people from Turkey we that's not just we that's the State
Department. That's the Pentagon that's every pull them out of
Turkey, Turkey, a NATO member, the United
States and Turkey are united in our common fight against ISIL
and Incirlik continues to play a key role in the coalition's
counter ISIL operations.
This is the Pentagon spokes hold about this. This decision
was made at the request of General Breedlove as well.
Breedlove is the NATO
guy hit her on the turkey departure? Yeah. How many
dependents will be required to leave? And if you could fill out
the picture a little bit more fully? How many US military
members are there at those places in Turkey? And what
changed about the security environment that required this
departure?
First of all, in terms of the numbers, my understanding is,
the figure is 670
That's a lot of people John to just vacate 600 and make a lot
of sense 670
Unless this something's going on.
Well, I have somebody who
will be affected by this. And I believe the total picture there
is is slightly more than that 770. So approximately exam these
are dependents that will be affected by this. So let me let
me just double check that number right now. Because I got this
from you come earlier. Make sure I've got this right. 670 people
dependents that will be affected by this. There are 770 Total in
Turkey overall military members. These are total
DOD. These are just the family members. So he's not what he
refuses to give or doesn't have is the number of military
personnel that will not be evacuated dependents
in Turkey right now many
military members.
Let me get that. Let me get that number for you. Pacific's close
to family service members themselves. Again, this is a
this was a decision made out of an abundance of caution, given
the overall picture the security threats that that we've looked
at in the region, there's no specific threat that triggered
this. But a broader decision based on what we've seen in the
region, you will have seen some of the things playing out in the
region that this decision is being made at this time. Again,
the US government overall making this decision of note that our
State Department colleagues had made the same decision. And it
is just added of abundance of caution. The safety and security
of our personnel and certainly their family members is foremost
to us. And we feel that this is the right decision to make at
this particular moment in time.
Yeah. Okay. This is no small item. And the thinking what I've
heard from our producers out in the field and in the region, is
there is a a suspicion slash fear or anticipation Turkey is
going to team up with the Saudis, and they're going to go
in and kick some ass in Syria. And this would also be the
reason why Russia got out. Because they they will come back
if it happens, but there's a lot of crap going down right now.
This is big. This is very, very big. And I'm surprised it's so
underplayed even by smart journalists, there's a couple
Wow. Hmm. I think, well, it's stunning to me that this is not
really covered. I did see a couple of reports about this
leaving turkey with no analysis.
Yeah, why bother? Why bother?
Why they got other things to do cocktail parties and one carpet
bomb Trump. carpet bombing Trump calling the five year old now.
I don't know if it's related. But there was a little kerfuffle
as the defence department with what's the new accountants name?
The Ashkan carton Carter. All of a sudden they do a part they do
a little press thing and they say oh, by the way, we're
ramping up for Iraq. But there was no real requests. Are you
guys doing your own linebackers? Are you doing your own thing?
Now? What? What is happening? Well, here's a report.
In secret locations across northern Iraq. The Army's elite
Delta Force is now conducting its first operations. CNN has
learned today at the Pentagon Defence Secretary Ash Carter
outlining what delta and the expeditionary targeting force
ATF has been ordered to do
seizing places I love
how they've come up with a new term. So Delta Force of course,
delta force coming in and get delta, but if you say ETF, which
stands
for Delta Force,
no, no, it's an abbreviation and I using Delta Force not using
that name. That's a soften it up here.
petitionary targeting force expeditionary
targeting force. Oh, ATF. Yeah. No, I think expeditionary
targeting forces code for investors to short them stock
market but that's just me maybe? I don't know.
It could be but I mean, because ETF does refer to an investment
vehicle
yes that is on the on the downside making money on the
downside Correct? Well, no,
no. Anyway, you want up down in between doesn't make any
difference. NCTs for everything is triples doubles. There's all
kinds of gambling on the triples or the you know, triple short
for example,
expeditionary targeting force Wow.
I would assume that in that report is code for the stock or
eat specific ETF to to buy which and you buy it and it may
represent a short or it may represent a long it could do
either what go either way. As a theory it's a stretch. I don't
think so. You never know watching the Rubicon show.
Why don't they just say delta force? Why do we love Delta
Force? Why I
think you're right. I think there's something to this. I
think you may have stumbled on
it. And she even says ETF for short. You don't have to do
that. Right listen to the report.
But delta and the expeditionary targeting force ETF has been
ordered to do
seizing places and people freeing hostages. Prisoners of
ISIL and making it such that ISIL has to fear that anywhere
any time it may be struck. Can your only thing I'll say is the
ETF is in position
the timing and location of John more code the ETF is in position
look I'm the ETF is in position. Position,
the timing and location of all operations remains classified.
There are about 200 troops in northern Iraq. They've been
setting up safe houses, establishing and paying off
informant networks and gathering intelligence I plan to attack
compound not just to capture or kill ISIS, but to grab laptops,
cell phones, anything that can provide more intelligence and
lead to more raids,
Special Operations Forces. I have vast experience in Iraq and
Afghanistan, using these kinds of tactics and techniques, new
techniques
as well with surprising openness. The Secretary of
Defence detailed going after ISIS in cyberspace
Attention, attention, dudes named Ben dudes named Ben
attention. Here's what they're going to do. How are we going to
get ISIL in cyberspace,
interrupt, disrupt ISOs command and control to cause them to
lose confidence in their networks to overload their
network so that they can't function.
Oh, you mean ddossing them? Wow. Thou that's that's that's worth
a trillion dollars a year.
We're gonna DDoS ISIS use
Cloudflare.
Just DDoS ISIS. That's it. That's it.
Now, how did this woman get a job? Which one? The one that
sounds like Sylvester the cat.
Oh, that's Barbara Starr. She sits at the Pentagon with their
big pearls in her old lady dress. I'm sorry. advanced age
lady debt dread dread dress. This is horrible.
It couldn't pick anything out of that stream of yakking?
No, but there's one that I'll just stop that we understand
what's going on Trump, though, was also messaging and this I
think he was messaging very clearly. I think it was he I
think he did a good job of messaging. But no one picked it
up. And we are your no agenda show. One of the things that
we've discussed that being very precarious for him is to say
that we're going to finally get it we're gonna fix the army, the
military and all this bull crap, all these contracts that are
waste, fraud and abuse. Of course, the military industrial
complex would not take kindly to this kind of noise Trumper we
just shut up this the gravy train, man, what are you doing?
This is not okay. This is why they want Hillary obviously,
Trump communicated to them,
we're spending a tremendous billions and billions of dollars
on NATO. So you'd like to see an organisation, revamp other NATO,
NATO now if you do that, you're gonna have viously have to add
different nations. And because you have nations that aren't in
NATO, that are very much into the world of terrorists, both in
terms of causing it and receiving it, NATO is obsolete.
Now, that doesn't mean it can't be rejiggered and it can't be
fixed and made good or and for you. It's that has a financial
component that when you talk about rejiggering it much you
have countries in NATO, I think it's 28 countries or countries
in NATO, that are getting a free ride. And it's unfair, it's very
unfair. The United States cannot afford to be the policemen of
the world anymore, folks, we have to rebuild our own country,
we have to stop with this stuff.
What he's saying is I'll go out and get you the money from all
these other freelancers, fitting freely freeloaders.
Why are we spending this money for these other countries when
they can be spending it and we can be making even more money?
Because
the the big corporations, mainly big oil have been benefiting
from that for decennia. And Trump is saying, Well, no,
that's not gonna happen. But he doesn't want to screw those
guys. So he couldn't and I'm sure this has consultants
written all over it. Yeah. Hey, man, if you say this about NATO,
don't say well just rejigger it smart. Hey, Obama was trying
that. Hey, everybody, you're supposed to spend 2% of your GDP
and everyone's going Yeah, sure. Sure. Sure. behind his back. No,
not gonna do that. No,
but I got to at least one report on what's going on with the big
French catch.
Can we call this a part of clip Blitz? Are we not ready
for that? No, it's not. Blitz. Alright. This is because there's
a little guy there's a little hiccup in here. You gotta play
this thing. Alright. This is the the attack rewarded in Paris
part one. Second.
Ama ginger. We are learning tonight of a possible major
terror plot now thwarted. Prosecutors in Paris say they
have stopped an imminent attack after a chilling discovery. An
arsenal of explosives they say unprecedented in scale. The
discovery comes amid the urgent manhunt for the man who had
still missing after the terror attacks in Brussels. ABCs Alex
Marquardt in Paris on the scope the size of this new discovery,
and how close they were to pulling
it off. Tonight the chilling disclosure by French authorities
the imminent plot stopped before it could be carried out by Retta
Creek a 32 year old Frenchman tonight charged with preparing
the attack in the apartment which he rented under a fake
name security forces found an arsenal that the prosecutor
called unprecedented.
Well, I stopped it right there.
Because the question is what is unprecedented? Yeah, what
would you expect to hear or as unpressed an unprecedented
Arsenal what would do a tank some anti aircraft weapons
perhaps
it would have to be at least one hellfire. That would be
unprecedented. Man, this would have to be so but yeah, either
it's small, small amounts of items that are big like a tank
personnel carriers. I don't know is it in clip two by any chance?
Yeah.
Five ak 47 rifles seven handguns. Key a teepee, the
explosive used in the Paris and Brussels attacks, detonators
acid and ball bearings.
Unprecedented the ball bearings,
five coalition ACOs and seven handguns. unprecedent.
Unprecedented.
I
tell you, I
was floored by this because they emphasise it in that in the
first part of the story two or three times? I don't know.
I do. All right. I'm the timekeeper rule 33. But it's
time for the clip. Let's say this John C. Dvorak favourite
moment at the end of the show. Okay, let's
start with Brazil NBC. turmoil in
Brazil comes just months before the Summer Olympics in Rio de
Janeiro. The television network NBC said Tuesday it's already
surpassed $1 billion in advertising sales for the Rio
Olympics, putting it on track to set a record for the most
national advertising ever sold for a single event.
Nice no criticism of that event
due to earthquake earthquakes. About 7 million people in the
United States live in areas at risk of an earthquake induced by
human activity. That's according to a new report by the US
Geological Survey which said states including Oklahoma and
Kansas, are now at as high of a risk as earthquake prone
California have a devastating earthquake. The central United
States has seen a spike in seismic activity due to the
injection of wastewater from oil and gas drilling deep
underground Oh
John by sharp box calm by sharp box
comm buys shirts company
Foxconn has agreed to buy Japan struggling electronics brands
sharp for three and a half million billion dollars. It's
the first foreign takeover of a major Japanese electronics
producer. Foxconn also assembles Apple's iPhones No comment.
Yeah, you gotta keep doing that. Lose Your money is your money
for the 86 million over on to
your money tonight wasted money the Justice Department's
internal watchdog, revealing a stunning new example of
government waste. In 2008. The Drug Enforcement Administration
and Department of Defence set out to modify an aircraft to use
in Afghanistan the budget for it at the time $22 million. So far
the tally is now 86,000,004 times as much and that plane
tonight still can't fly sitting on jets at Hangar in Delaware
and will never go to Afghanistan because the programme has been
discontinued yay
Don't worry. We'll get NATO to fill it up
through the police called turkeys
place Lachlan Hey so I just postmaster in Hillsdale okay.
You're not going to believe this but I gotta carry this being
attacked by wild turkeys won't let him deliver the mail. On s
Vontae that's fine. Dr. Spawn lab. Yeah, I guess that's it.
Yes. PLA Yes. being attacked by Turkey. This has been going on
it's crazy. I mean, they're actually attacking biting the
case the trucks everyday. Wow. Take a look at it. No problem
for them. Thank you.
What is more, yeah, one more homework. Enough is enough. No
kidding. Enough, is enough. Alrighty, then. Very good.
Okay, they left a lot on the table, but we will bring that to
you Sunday. There's some great analysis of the Clinton emails
and the FBI what's happening there. But I kind of want to be
focusing on what's happening with the we have the ascension
of referendum Ukraine ascension referendum in the Netherlands
coming up. The Dutch a lot of propaganda going on the Dutch
student at the Dutch seemingly do not want to like it. They
don't like Exactly. So got some on that. Others lots of stuff.
Because you enable us to sit at home and watch search and
research you search for you research and research. Exactly.
So we appreciate your courage and we will return on Sunday.
And will you be in New York on Sunday? I will be on New York
we're gonna be an hour earlier. When we go an hour earlier next
show that's true. We should mention that and to be you know,
should work out fine. Okay.
Coming to you from downtown Austin here in the skyscraper
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