Hey man, I'm hearing a ringing sound. Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak.
Thursday, March 3 2016. time once again for your Gitmo nation
media assassination episode 804. This is no agenda, balancing
privacy against privacy and broadcasting live from the
Capitol. The drone star stayed here in FEMA Region six in the
morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry, and from Northern Silicon Valley where
the Zephyr went by we're running late. I'm John C. Dvorak, Raglan
Buzzkill.
All that extra time to prepare your opening and that's where we
get you know, I
always choke the open if you are. You're a choker.
You're a choker man. amature. Choker, choker.
Joke artist. Yeah, big time.
Yeah, back in the crackpot condo here in the skyscraper in
downtown Austin. After our little jaunt to Fayetteville?
Yes. Sometimes known as Fayette chill or Fayette Nam.
It now Vietnam. Vietnam. Yeah. Why is a bunch of Vietnamese
there?
No, it's because of the outstanding quality of the weed.
The Weed yeah.
Oh yeah. Fayetteville weed is
run why don't they get legalised in that state? They
should man that stuff maybe go cross-eyed?
I thought you stop using that stuff. Oh. Taco he denies it.
You all know everyone has listened to this show.
I stopped I stopped a long time ago. Yeah, I stopped and then
sometimes I you know, someone says hey, you got to try this
from Arkansas. This is research for the show jazz research. It's
local materials research to grow it right what they would that's
actually him growing area. Yeah.
There was a dude named Ben.
A stone to dude named Ben.
You tried that? He said, Hold on. I'm gone. cross-eyed. This
stuff is good.
Going Christ. Yeah, stop and Van Buren.
Yes, we did. We stopped Van Buren on the way home and you
know, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what it was. Van Buren, it
reminds me of Marfa, but only there's much more of it. And
there's actual people walking around. This seems to be like a
big place. Yeah. Seems to be life. Beautiful. Very, very
quaint. Very cute. We didn't stay a super long time. But we
did go. And that was a long drive back. drove back in one
go.
Am I my take on it? And it is big and people live there. It's
like a normal town. But my take on it is it's it's kind of sad.
Because it's this beautiful little 1880 Victorian town. This
imperfect condition has been kept
up. Well, this town centre is the historic town centre. The
report I'm mostly talking about. Yeah, they built the town. It
was like the bank. It's like a really? Yeah. Crazy, but it's
not a bank. No, it's like this shop is not that anymore. So
you're coopered now there is a flower shop and everything was
whatever it was, is not that it's no longer than what it is.
Yeah. And it's kind of pathetic in that regard. It's like oh, I
don't know. I guess I'm expecting Knott's Berry Farm or
somewhere at least a few at least a couple of places they
tried to keep this
very far now Mystic Seaport so I had to stay at the at the local
I've never stayed there. There's a local RV park right on i 35.
Four minutes from downtown or at four miles from downtown I
should say downtown what they all say because because we were
back so late I couldn't we drove it all in one go. It's about
eight nine hours. Because Tina had work on Tuesday. And I you
know so I couldn't be couldn't take it back to the to the
storage place because they were closed. This is the RV park that
famously, Matthew McConaughey stayed at for months when he was
filming something in Austin or whatever within an Airstream
coincidentally. There was nice
what's the name of it? Ah I forget that's okay doesn't need
to plug we don't get paid no.
No in fact that I got in like 10 o'clock or something. Then you
pick up a little packet because no one's there that just has a
card Daniel key card to get in and sometimes a passcode for the
gate and then said oh we won't have any any cable because
apparently Time Warner as now he's now encrypting all of their
what used to be kind of free usable cable and they're not
even selling boxes to these outfits all the RV parks like
holy crap we can't offer cable anymore which is a problem.
Yeah. Yeah, Time Warner doesn't want people doing that anymore.
I guess even even when they offered to pay for extra cable
boxes now they won't do it. They won't do they won't sell them.
Why? I don't know. I don't know. The rationale. douchebags is a
douche bag thing. I will I also She also noticed a huge design
flaw once again in the American made Airstream trailer. Okay, so
you have a heating system heating and cooling and in the
bathroom, which is kind of nice there is an outlet you know one
of those look great. And when the furnace or if you have the
other 80 back on That'd be nice. You're sitting on the on the
toilet, you know,
ah back.
HVAC isn't what it is. What is it? No app, why am I saying ah
bag? Isn't this, what is the AC is now called H back heating
something AC to unit that can heat or cool? Okay, an air
conditioner. And which is really nice when you're doing some
sitting down business in the air stream in the back there. But
when you're standing up, this is a design flaw as a guy, the
grate is higher than the toilet seat itself. So you have a
crosswind of about five knots.
And it blows the be all over the place in the
dark. It is an obstacle that needs to be reckoned with.
Next time you'll know better than you should sit like a girl.
Yes, we should. And then I got a call. Yeah. What is it? That was
Wednesday morning? Remember the crisis management guy from DC
who I met a while ago who was friends with Gary Johnson? Yeah,
so he called he said, Hey, I'm in awesome. Let's have a cup of
coffee to update you on stuff, then. And I think really, you
know, he's, he's, so he's crisis manager to these guys. You know,
they, they want books, they want something to, you know, to be
able to tout their their skills with so he written a piece for
Huffington Post about why he thought Trump was, you know, so
successful. And that's, I guess that's kind of what he wanted.
He told me because I didn't quite understand what he was
saying about that until like, went back and read his article.
But he says, It's because our expectations are so low. And
that's why that's why we, you know, with Trump with
expectations are low, you know, you know, you don't expect him
to speak politely. There's so many things you don't expect.
And it's very much like the his analogy was the the difference
between Toyota with their so called stock accelerators, we
all remember that Bogota of scam as well, compared to General
Motors, when lots of people were dying in the General Motors
cars. And with Toyota, the impact was much bigger from a
crisis management perspective, because people have a high
expectation of quality that Toyota brings. Interesting
theory, I liked it. But more importantly, you had a couple of
inside Diddy's for me. First of all, from the Gary Johnson camp,
they are looking at what's going on between the Republicans and
the Democrats as a possible opportunity for a third party
play which I'm sceptical of. I said, Hey,
I was that has happened once before.
That was Ross Perot, wasn't it? No,
I'm talking about successful Oh, 1856. Ah, so it's overdue.
What? Who was 1856?
That's when the Republican Party first formed. And then in 1860,
within four years, they had a President Lincoln. Okay. And
before that it was the Democrats in the Whigs.
Right. Well, so there's that thinking in the Gary Johnson
camp. And, of course, when Gary Johnson is ready, now, we want
to interview him no problem and get anything we want. Which
might be interesting. I might interview, do a site. Yeah. Just
play some pieces on the show.
Package. It plays a Yeah. And then we can package it for one
of those specials. And you
said, of course, you know that, in reality, the President
doesn't actually run anything. It's a lobbyist. This was him
speaking. So lobbyists, which he's one, so and then we'll see.
Oh, so he's talking about, at least he's honest, oh, he's a
very honest guy. And he was talking about the Trump
campaign. He knows a lot of the consultants who were there early
on, he said, they all quit or were fired. No one could deal
with him. Because Trump was running the entire show himself.
All the ideas, all the strategies is all him. He won't
listen to consultants he disagrees with doesn't like and
then and then eventually gets rid of him. Which is something
that I always question, you know, is this just him? Does he
have some? He must have some advisors, but apparently very,
very few other than people who already advise him in his
company already.
Yeah, he's winging it. winging it. Exactly. So it makes it
interesting. Exactly.
John Kasich
had to retell a story then. Okay. I said this story before I
tell the story, I guess once every couple of years. I'm
watching television after the after the after Walter Mondale
was defeated. This is what year? It Well, you have to look at
Walter Mondale when he ran for president. It was a while ago in
the 80s Maybe I think 80s and he lost. I thought it was a steal.
If he comes on he's on the Carson Show. That guy's a laugh
riot is doing like Rubio stand up. It's like he's funny. He's
got a smile on his face. He's affable. He's got a good
personality and from that moment on I've always realised that
these consultants are the ones who get in there no don't do
that. Don't do this don't do that. Don't do this don't do
they're the ones show that exactly the same thing having a
PC magazine we had a bunch of consultants giving it to Oh, no,
no people don't want Oh, that's
like radio station consultants. They always come in Hey, man,
don't bank announced that song. Yeah, you got to do a little
more inflection on wn BC. I mean, that is going on today.
Still,
more. Yeah, these consultants are full of crap. And in
general, if you can't deal with the managers or consultants that
listen to the show, you know,
you know what we're talking about Betty?
You know, we're talking about we're talking about so case,
EJ, then he knows Keisha and he's with this guy's a
Washington insider. He's a really good source of dirt that
he says, I feel more
we talk he only came out to drop a few bombs on you. So you'd put
them on the shows. So we could leverage it?
Well, yeah, that's the deal. Yeah, we promote his article and
then we can get some shit from him. This is really good. The
article be in the show notes. Case IGE. Because he's dealt
with this guy in the past. He says, really nice guy on TV
total asshole in real
life. You know, it's funny, you get that and I get that
impression. Well, then you nailed for strictures. Rove
will.
You Serious Man, this guy didn't total a whole a to the whole.
Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. I think a lot of politicians are
that way now. I mean, look at Nixon. I mean, he would seem
like an a hole. But when you heard the tapes, Holy mackerel.
It was a double aihole said all the time, couldn't get dirty and
foul mouth jerk.
Unbelievable. And so I said, Well, you know, else isn't a U
haul. I said Elon Musk. I'm just throwing stuff out trying to
keep the conversation going. And he says, oh, Ilan, he says,
Yeah, I covered him then Space X as an analyst for a while. And
so. So you know how it works? Yeah. All the subsidies and all
that and he's not at all enamoured with Elon as the great
saviour. But he said something else. He said, John McCain is
his he can barely speak because I'm quoting, okay. John McCain
can barely speak because he has Elans dick so far down his
throat. Now, like, What are you talking about?
I never knew this.
Yes, he's he is because if you go back and look at what McCain
says about Russia, he has had a number of you know, obsessions,
where he's talking about the Russian rocket engines that the
US still has to use, because we don't have our own production.
And apparently, he is all in because, of course, it'll be
retiring soon, and he'll be on the board of SpaceX or some
other position. She's all in on trying to get Elon and SpaceX to
provide all rockets rocket engines for all us space. That's
why it's anti Russian. Yes. But as the first put an embargo on
the Russian so we don't have we can't buy their engines anymore.
And so these guys even have any of the United States is
interested in mind at all. Well, gains the worst.
And I was surprised to Oh, yeah, you've no idea. This guy's
always trying to get SpaceX and he's always trying to do stuff
for him. Well, and you know what? They I think they're a
match made in heaven. Perfect. Yeah. Exactly. Um, so didn't get
to see the Academy Awards only a little bit because of just Oh,
yeah, well, we were late and, and saw Simon. So I have no
deconstruction. I don't care. It's already no one cares
anymore. Well,
I didn't get any clips. But you can tell us. I can tell you a
couple of things. One, it wasn't as good as last year's set.
It also had lower ratings. Apparently, it had really low
ratings,
and there's a number and I wonder why? Because I watched
it. It's always a decent show. I didn't I will say this the last
year set? Yeah, was spectacular. And I think it was a couple of
Emmys for some of the stuff we did this year's was kind of dull
by comparison, it would have said was okay, but it wasn't
like last year, which was fantastic. But they I don't
know, I think the ratings may have dropped down because they
because of what and maybe people just kind of tune in but I don't
know that you should start this show. I think you know Chris
Rock who I think's hilarious. I don't think you want to start a
show like this. Be rating the audience for being a bunch of
racist white, white whites for being white and race.
I think what I saw is, it just kept on going it wasn't like you
know, some he was pretty funny, but he never ran stood up in one
big statement that we could all take home and say, Thank you,
Chris Rock, you've healed America. That was, of course,
some of the expectation. Instead, what I saw, is it the
JUGS just kept on coming back. And I think we bailed after 45
minutes. With the quality of the stream was no good that we were
watching. It was just, I don't know, it was annoying.
Yeah, well, he didn't miss much. I mean, I can't think of any of
the funny moments where somebody comes up and was in a one year
old. And they did this new thing, which I actually was the
one thing I was impressed with, even though nobody seemed to
care, which I was a little baffled by the show ended on
time. And in fact, it ended way on time. So they could do a full
credit roll with
a normal speed, they didn't have to speed it up, push it into the
corner to
speed up to speed up the credits and put it in a box A we can
promote the next show, here we go.
They ended on time, they did the whole credit roll, which I think
has been missing because they need to credit the people I've
put on the show. It's a very good live show. And this was
because what they did was this little trick the person as soon
as they won that except for the big winners because they didn't
prepare for them. So they get to they get to which I think was
good, too. Because in the olden days, the early winners were for
set design and stuff would come out and ramble on that take
forever. And by the end of the show, the guy who wins best
actor gets two minutes, and then they play him off. Yeah, our
minute, sir. 40 seconds. So what they did was they did the The
winner would like to thank and then they ran it as a crawler.
And so they ran these, you know, of course, if they're going to
do that, you add everybody in their sister on there, my
mother, my brother, Mike, and they have all their names and
their shooting across the bottom as the guys saying, I'd like to
thank the studios for my and then meanwhile, at the bottom is
all this I'd like to thanks going by all these names. I
thought that was genius. I didn't like it at first and
everyone said what is this? But after I saw that the show ended
on time, I realised that that's been the big delay. Who needs to
know that somebody who won best supporting actress has to thank
her agent and her their lawyers and all this other stuff. I
don't nobody cares. So they just ran it as a crowd. Gee, I
thought looking back on it. absolute genius.
Feels like you're a little too involved in the show there,
John. Well, we recorded it. So we'll watch it. Maybe
you don't need to watch it. Okay,
we won't be watching it. Go watch it. Maybe a way to get
into today's news is just a little way to get into today's
news. Oh, wait, backup. I'm pretty sure that the Oscars
would have been tanked in the ratings. Had they not done all
this black white racism promotion? That's what I'm
thinking. I believe that people don't care anymore about the
show. Maybe they were maybe they even overdid it. They were so
tired of it. Yeah,
I don't know. I mean, I I could I could live without the Oscars.
I think I could I think I so far I'm doing okay.
The one I liked was the Independent Spirit Award suppose
or better.
Okay. I have to ease us into today's news. They have just
broadcast that Mitt Romney came out to speak about the
Republican Party. I guess he's one of the elites. I'm always
wondering who are these? Who is the base? Who are these elites
that everyone talks about? The you know, the top echelon Who
are these guys have to
be in there he who else?
You know, there's not a lot of names being I think
a few of the senators. So it's a bunch of aihole rants, rinse
rinse.
He's just a figurehead Priebus. He's just a dude. He's He's not
an elite is just the he holds the talking stick. He also is
talking stick. You can talk now you can do this. Anyway, so
Romney came out and died while we were setting up getting ready
for the show was taping it. So I had the last two minutes, which
are kind of his wrap up of talking about Donald Trump and
the general idea is he is asking everyone if you're an Ohio vote
for case H if Kasich, Kasich Kasich, what is the case EJ?
case it's a
I've heard it pronounced case itch and case we won't have to
remember for long
because he'll be gone. If you're in Florida, vote for Rubio, if
you're in Texas vote for Cruz, of course haven't already did
that. But you know, the idea is is to block Trump as much as
possible. That's that is the grand strategy of the grand old
party. And here's his wrap up. Yeah.
In the past, our presidents have channelled that anger and forged
it into resolve into endurance and high purpose and into the
will to defeat the enemies of freedom. Our anger was
transformed and The Energy directed for good,
directed energy weapon. Mr. Trump has
threatened our anger for less than noble purposes. He creates
scapegoats and Muslims and Mexican immigrants. He calls for
the use of torture. Yeah. He calls for killing the innocent
children and family members of terrorists
sounds so far like he's on par with Obama. Obama sounds about
the same.
He cheers, assaults on protesters. He applauds the
prospect of twisting the constitution to limit First
Amendment freedom of the press.
This is I love when he when this is a meme. There's a lot of
memes that anything to the Hitler thing is one, but now
it's all he wants to abolish the first amendment for for libel
laws. Yeah, come on.
This is the very brand of anger that has led other nations into
the abyss. Oh,
we have that word again. What?
What nations? I'm sure he means a Nazi Germany, that it has to
be that.
I don't know. Here's what I know.
Oh, well. Oh, and then it goes blank.
Donald Trump back phoney, a fraud a phoney His promises are
as worthless as a degree from Trump University
where's that screamer? This is a mistake. I'm just realising
they've made a huge mistake. They never should have let this
go like that. They should have not done this live or at least
done some kind of tape delay. And they should have put in the
Rubio screamer here's how I do it. I don't know anything about
oops. That didn't work. Sorry. Have you ever scream? I scream
your scream. Ah, that's probably a good idea.
Ever have Romany? Say something to throw the Screamer in? Yeah.
Okay, here we go. This, this will be worth all the effort.
Let's back it up a little bit. Where is he? Here we go. Here we
go. I'll keep it ready for the next one.
Yeah, he's playing the members of the American public for
suckers. He gets a free ride to the White House. We get us a
lousy hat. His domestic policies would lead to recession. His
foreign policies would make America and the world less safe.
He has neither the temperament nor the judgement to be
president. And his personal qualities would mean that
America would cease to be a shining city on a hill. I'm
convinced America has greatness ahead. And this is a time for
choosing God bless us to choose a nominee who will make that
vision a reality. Thank you. And God bless you all.
Alright, so weak, weak?
Well, it was one of the you know what I I'm listening to it. And
it ran. I didn't catch it. So I just ran this morning. Yeah.
Which I thought was gonna be this afternoon. But okay, fine.
Screw me, I think is one of these deals where it's like,
Romney's watching this thing go on and on. And then he sees
Trump and Cruz or not Trump, but to Rubio and Cruz. Rubio is
doing is getting to the point where it's such a stand up
comedy act that it was mocked as such by Cole bear. Yeah.
Oh, you have a clip of that? No, I
don't because it was a visual thing. We'll be here to hear all
these gags and then cuts the Colbert holding the mic out. And
say make sure to tip your waitress.
Well, if we were invited anyway,
let me finish. He Romney has been watching these guys. When
he says these guys, why don't they just make a statement? And
let me show him how to do it. Right. And the books the time,
here's the way you should do it. And they does the speech that
he's the way he thinks that should be done, which is you
blast the hell out of the guy on some higher from some higher
ground, which is what kind of he's trying to do there. It's
too late, too little too late. I mean, these guys now they're
just making fools of themselves.
And Rubio, I would have advised him differently. First of all, I
think by now it is time that the mainstream media now that we
have two video clips that they asked Rubio what he's popping
dinner we have another clip of him popping a pill. And it's so
obvious, it's embarrassing. It's almost, you know, it's like, he
pops his pill in his mouth the way we used to sneak smoke. So
you know if our parents happened to be driving by, you know, kind
of your hand covering the cigarette. What is he What is he
popping? Is it just a breath, man? Why does it need a breath
man when he's talking?
Breath man was a tic tac body. You know, he
has a whole bunch of whatever's in his pocket. You can see him
rummaging round I
needed a Pez dispenser. Anyway, so I think it's either add it's
got to be,
I'm sure it's Adderall, because it's, I'm pretty sure but it's
someone should ask him at this point.
Thanks so too What are you taking? doing stand up comedy
all of a sudden if you take a couple of these pills all day,
all day? Yeah, exactly.
All day yesterday. They keep showing the loop of Christie
behind Donald Trump and like they're making Oh, this was so
funny. Christy's thinking what am I doing here Boo is but if
you're going to do that, then you should at least ask what is
Rubio poppin but that's not taking place. A nice to see
Charlie Rose call Rubio out on this con artist mean the Rubio
is and he hasn't it's all Rubio is talking about is Trump is a
con artist Trump is a con Trump is a crazy con Trump is a con at
this what I felt was a the way Charlie Rose, even how he
pronounced his con artist. He called him out and Rubio fail,
but
Donald Trump has had a big night. And many will say that
when you call him a con artist, you are criticising the
like that a con artist, like ConAgra con artists
as Lady Gaga who are criticising the people who are voting for
him. While he's
a con artist. I don't I don't deny that there are some people
that have been taken by his message. But look what happened
in Virginia and virtually every state tonight Donald Trump did
not sleep he lost an Oklahoma we were right in the mix. We're
performing very well in Arkansas as well. Virginia. As I point I
love
how Rubio is always talking about we we never i It's always
we
thought he was 15 points ahead of me. And then we started
informing people of who He truly is. This man is a world class
con artist. And he is conning people into believing that he
fights for the little guy. This is a guy that defrauded people
on Trump University. And he's doing now to voters what
sounds like some talking points to me. Sounds like what Romney
just did to the people
that signed up for that school. And that's why if you want to
stop Donald Trump, I am the only candidate that not can unite the
party, but I can grow it and I got party favours. And that's
why I asked you to go on our website, Marco rubio.com. And
join artists.
Meet me on the dark web.
Despite all that you have campaigned you are 20 points
behind in your home state of Florida, with only two weeks to
close.
That's one now. Well, first of all, that's just one poll or a
couple.
We know that's not true is we Rubio.
I'm confident of it. Especially after tonight. We took in the
state of Virginia and five days we took a 15 or 20 point lead
Donald Trump had and basically narrowed it to nothing. Okay.
Well, Mr. Rubio, I would advise you to talk about something
else. Yeah.
I don't know. I kind of like his comedy.
Yeah, but when he but when he did the Donald Trump small hands
joke. I think he pushed it.
Yeah, that was this isn't this stuff is not being written by
Oh, that was his own punch. His timing was once again perfect.
You know, they say about people with small hands. I was laughing
they can't be trusted. It's a good punch line is an old joke.
Very well
done. But yeah, I think he's also being coached. I've never
really had to do this kind of material.
Oh, yeah. Here. Here's what you say. And here's your pill.
And here's you give us pause.
What was that? John? What was the beach What was the name of
that drug the you take when you go driving for a long distance?
Provigil, Provigil, and maybe that's what he's taken. Now that
stuff doesn't really do that to you. He needs someone to give
him a quick hit right away.
Well, and that's that takes an hour. It's got to be some you
know, I was thinking that I mean, the easiest thing if you
want to do the become a stand up comic, and anyone who's been in
that business knows this is cocaine.
Yeah, that's, that's the funny drug.
And you know, you can be hilarious with you. You get
enough cocaine in your chatterbox. Boom, you're just on
your way you're good to go. And but he's eating something. So
it's not as though he's like, I have a nasal congestion problem.
Taylor Vicks inhaler as a word is filled with Coke vaping
this this sounds unlikely
Yes. It's not what he's doing so although you don't know what
he's doing between between sets, yeah.
Sets. Good set man. Comes off the debate state. Hey, man,
good. Good set. Good set set everybody. Yeah, very nice. So
the media just you know, with this with the Super Tuesday,
results, immediate was just In some ways beside themselves,
they I think they still had a hope that it would all melt down
and it wouldn't work out. And, of course, all the polls turned
out to be incorrect, which is something that is never
discussed after the fact. But we still need to keep pushing the
idea that in the United States, which is a republic, that the
entire situation is equal to that of Germany. When Hitler
came to power, they it was, obviously the same governmental
system, the same powers that a president has, and and therefore
Trump will turn us into Nazi Germany.
Well, here's some math that will trouble both of you, I believe.
And this is how voter turnout looks look at these stark
differences when she
she say math? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Look at the math. Oh, you notice
that the word math has now as been substituted for calculus?
Oh, that's a good one. Well, this is all part of the pie
back. The I can't I can't think of a nom spacing. Wait, well,
let me let me pop a Ruby, Papa Rubio pill and may come back?
Well, here's some math that will trouble both of you, I believe.
And this is how voter turnout looks look at these stark
differences between Democrats for whom voter turnout is less
today yesterday than it wasn't 2008. And Republicans for whom
it is exponentially higher. Look at Virginia 107% higher for
Republicans than it was in 2008.
I remember this when math slash calculus is all about the
fantasy sports league that the that everyone's playing well, if
you have more Democrats coming out voting less, but the arrows
going down. And that looks like the red state is just about the
blue state and therefore Hillary will be the king.
That's a problem, Sally moving forward for Democrats.
You know, I keep talking to Democrat after Democrat who say,
well, well, Trump isn't going to win, Trump isn't going to win,
he can't win. Well, he looks like he's gonna win. And to be
honest, that's the biggest motivator is people have to
actually feel something is at stake if they're not motivated
to go out and vote for, you know, the guy with the
progressive economic message that really would finally make
this country work for everyone, or the woman who's running with
an impeccable and vast record of experience. If that's not enough
for people, at least stopping us from becoming Nazi Germany would
hopefully get Democrats and others to turnout.
Let me summarise it. This woman said Bernie Sanders will save
the country. Yeah, Hillary has experience and all the
Republicans are a bunch of fascist pigs. Let's
check it again.
Who is this person?
This is Sally Cohen, Sally Kohn. I don't know Sally, and she's a
pundit for CNN
that really would finally make this country work for everyone
or the woman who's running with an impeccable and vast record of
experience.
She should she's a felon
would finally make this country work for everyone? Or the woman
who's running with an impeccable and vast record of experience if
that's not enough, oh,
this is the lesbian which I don't give a shit that she's a
lesbian. But this is the I'm Rachel Maddow on CNN woman. Do
you know what it is now? No. Oh, you got to look at machine and
look at Sally cone. You know her, you know her, you need to
really need to look at Koh and it really
would finally make this country work for everyone. Or the woman
who's running with an impeccable and vast record of experience.
If that's not enough for people, at least stopping us from
becoming Nazi Germany would hopefully get Democrats and
others to turnout
just stop us from the UK. Please help us from becoming Nazi
Germany. Then do you see your now
this did you notice she was a she's an Olympic beach swim
volleyball morons. Oh, no. Makes total sense. CNN political
commentator essays keynote speaker mom, she's not a
lesbian. She is. She isn't
she's she's a lesbian who's a mom.
And all this and then there were this time looking at what I'm
looking at very old fashioned thinking of you,
John. Is this not
really provide just a she's a mom. Okay. Professional
optimist. from Brooklyn. She looks like a jerk. Yeah. Yeah.
And then on her Twitter thing she's got vote as her vote
artwork.
Vote to stop us from becoming a Nazi Germany.
Oh, how do you have these people on his commentators at all here?
She hears her pinned tweet. There's the tweet like your pin
tweeted the trailer. Yeah. The pinned tweet is this is not a
drill. Trump could become president. Y'all wake up and do
something
barely started finally started to look at Melania which is
good. We don't hear our Potential First Lady speaking
very much in public. But pooper interviewed Buber is so
enamoured with her business. She he was kind of fawning over the
way. You often see gay guys and beautiful model like women, you
had, I was just waiting for Anderson to go, hey girl. Almost
he had that goofy look on his face, which is not very
professional. But this is our first kind of experience with
Melania speaking and she sounds like a for sure her own person,
we are both very independent and let him be who he is. And he
lets me be who I am. And try to change him. I don't try to
change him. He's an adult, he knows the consequences. And so I
let him be who he is. I give him my opinions many, many times.
Yes. And I don't agree with everything. But he says, But you
know, that is normal. I'm my own person. I tell him what I think
I'm standing very strong on the ground on my two feet, and she's
got feet on the ground. And I'm my own person and
sounds like they have a very healthy marriage. Actually, when
listen to this.
I think that's the relationship. Do you know? Can
you say something where you disagreed with
him? It's usually can you say something like, can you say
something mean? Please? Can you just say something mean?
Oh, many things. Some language of course. Some language. I
didn't hear him using the campaign especially I was in New
Hampshire when the woman was shouting out the this was the
policy comment and appropriate word. Right. And I was there and
I'm thinking like, Don't repeat that in my head just for him.
Don't repeat it. Just don't say it because the next day media
all they will talk is about that. But he repeated his with
the momentum. He goes with the flow he goes with with the
people they having fun. Everybody were cheering. And you
know, he said it and the next day, but he repeated the word
that was not his word. So
he heard from you about that. Yeah,
I've told him that. Yes.
Good old Melania. She sounds nice.
Yeah, she seems explicit.
What we're what we're talking about hot women. Yeah, and hot
Republican women.
Something that hasn't changed. Caitlyn is still a staunch
Republican, which led to some heated exchanges during the
group's bus travels across the
country. We're promoting the Caitlyn show again, new season
coming up, then the problem now is everyone's totally okay with,
with Bruce Jenner being Caitlyn Jenner. But the fact that he's a
republican is a brain freeze.
But I'm not blaming it on Republicans and conservatives.
The politics was tough on the Republican side of the battle,
we do get a candidate. I certainly will.
Man this guy has done nothing for his voice. doesn't care. He
does not it's he has done absolutely nothing get a
candidate and not that you have to but you know, what I've seen?
It's kind of kind of part of the process.
I certainly will talk to them. I and I admit that the Democrats
when it comes as far as trans issues are better than the
Republicans.
All right, Caitlin getting in getting grief. Okay, let us go
to let me see. Yeah, this is a good one. This is the Morning
Joe Show. I was just twiddling the dial for days trying to pick
up stuff about what people are saying this morning, Joe and
this is about the there was apparently Trump had an Off The
Record meeting with the New York Times editorial board
they're all right all these guys especially the TV guys, the
radio guys not so much are all over this.
So first of all, the editorial board these are the people who
do the the op eds and say Trump is Hitler. It's seems like it's
rather odd to have an off the record meeting with the
editorial board. Does the editorial board even take
meetings like that? Is that typical? I don't know anything
about the
what are you say? The agreement was that it would be some of
them beyond the record so be off the record and they recorded the
whole thing and they're threatening to release well they
someone leaked it someone leaked that they even existed and that
for that seems like the first of all the New York Times doing
doing anything off the record seems odd for the paper of
record. And but then to leave
plenty of stuff off the record.
But they're leaking the fact that something is there. They're
making the
kind of know what it is. What is it? Yeah, I mean, it's been
deconstructed by the lie these guys for a while. It's he's
apparently said that you know the stuff I'm talking about when
I'm talking about immigration, I'm not gonna really do a lot of
stuff. Everything's bad, bad everything's negotiable. Yeah,
everything's negotiable. That's where I am. And they don't worry
about some of this stuff. I mean, I say it because people
like to hear it and that kind of thing, supposedly, where he's
being just amenable and, and the idea I would think, since it's
part of his in the group negotiation strategy would be to
get them to lighten up.
Let's listen to the morning, Joe, a deconstruction of what
happened
here, either the New York Times, supposedly the gold standard,
right? Having information from an Off The Record Editorial
Board meeting late, they would never do that in a million years
to Hillary Clinton. They never do it to Marco Rubio. They never
even do it to Ted Cruz. Not even
yours, Joe, not
do that. Leak about some kind of
off the record recording. Oh, it's somebody inside the Oh, of
course, it was some douche someone
in the on the editorial board, no doubt.
But they're doing it to Donald Trump
to great journalism story from time to time, the New York Times
will make pronouncements about its policies in the handling of
on the record comment background off the record, saying that we
won't allow off the record dispensation and be granted to
sources you can talk on the record. So why was the New York
Times having an off the record editorial board session with a
presidential candidate? Being that it's off the record? Why is
it leaking? Now? Who's leaking it at the New York Times? What's
the policy with regard to attribution at the New York
Times? I'll tell you, if I was running the Donald Trump
campaign, every New York Times reporter on that plane would be
off? I
would I would tell them on a less Yeah,
they clarify the attributional policies of the newspaper. I
agree with you here.
I agree with you. Every single New York Times reporter to be
kicked off the plane should not be given press access anything
to the editor of the New York Times explains to the candidate
and explains to readers exactly what happened.
Well, I don't think that's gonna happen.
No, it's gonna be pointless to kick the reporters off the
plane. Yeah.
MSNBC made me laugh. You might have seen this clip the N after
the demise of Melissa Harris Perry. Now that she's gone, that
they're a disarray. They've been in disarray for a while but
well, Comcast, you know, who tends to be Republican. When
they bought NBC. They knew they had to revamp it, the MSNBC but
they had to do it in a kind and gentle way. Otherwise, it would
be called out. So they've been doing it. They've been slowly
that's why Ed Schultz is out of there. Finally, and he's, you
know, working for the
I actually got a clip from Ed Schultz from RT this is like,
I've never seen this show. Find it. He's doing some good stuff.
It's crazy funny.
It's really doing some interesting thing. madmen. So
MSNBC, there may be still some Republican elements in the
control room. Because there was a setup with a guest. And the
whole idea is to say, well, you know, Donald Trump racist black
people don't want to vote for him. There's a lot of the
commentary continues. Only here's why we only have
apparently white people and black people in America. There's
no yellow, there's no red, there's no brown. It's only
black and white. I'm so sick and tired of hearing it. So when
this happened, it was funnier than anything I've seen of their
race baiting coverage.
If you're Donald Trump, why would a cake AK white
supremacist guy want people to vote for you? That's a question
that Donald Trump needs to be asked. Well,
the question is also being asked. Well, a lot of attention
has been placed on his candidacy, Donald Trump in the
media and
you're watching you said the controlling sound but you're
gonna sound by when I go live to the Trump rally and CLI those
racist assholes.
You have report saying, Listen, what about his supporters? What
are we learning about his supporters, the new people truly
that he is to his point, bringing into the fold.
Actually, one of our reporters and I don't want to put the
wrong reporter here was just out of the trap Trump campaign, I
think we have the sound and my team will have to tell me where
they spoke with some Trump supporters. Let's play what they
said.
Okay, so she gets a message during the interview, interview
ear and she's even touching her ear. You know, one of those
lieutenants Zulu moves? Yeah. Oh, we have a reporter and he's
live at the Trump rally and you know, kk k and they've the Hey,
Blake was breast supremacy,
David Duke and people like that
they come on. Now, this is a huge black man. sitting in the
front row
of rocks all the time around. It's time to sit down and deal
with Donald Trump. We're all Americans. I think we To start
with the racist stuff in the race. I mean, my friend right
here we just
met today when he was talking talking to old white guy next to
him.
We got to start with the racist stuff. This that we all
Americans, man, and nobody paid me.
Now they come back from this from this piece.
Clearly, let me just be clear here. Obviously the majority of
Donald Trump supporters are not African American. I don't know
how many African Americans were in that, that building but that
is one person that we have chosen to cut that sound from
suckered that was a good one. Yeah, that isn't exist. That's
what's going on at MSNBC. They got to get they're going to move
in that direction. So they can I don't know what to do with
MSNBC. This clearly clearly that don't know what to do. But this
is a good one thing that gets me is that nobody on the nobody in
the mainstream, especially on MSNBC, is really writing Hillary
about her that commentary she made in 1996. During her
husband's administration, when they passed all these these most
of the laws that were that bill passed crime laws crime bills
resulted in the high rate of black incarceration and then a
lot of the black community the intellectuals in the black
community all know this and they're not voting for her
they're voting for Bernie or they'll they'll switch over they
just won't vote for but there's a I have one little rundown on
the latest one another example took place where some black
woman or millennial confronted Hillary in a in a in public and
discuss this about what's this about under under your heels and
it's kind of explained you this under your heels. Yeah, you
don't you probably didn't I missed
this. I missed this. Okay. Ask it.
Sorry. Yeah. You got the clip there. Yeah, ABC Republican
explains it. Senator are coming together.
Uniting.
Right now that's not happening, which is why Republicans are
Shi'ites.
This was ABC Republican rundown. That's what I said. I know this
from Democracy Now. So let me see what the clip is called.
It's under heel dn
on the campaign trail, Hillary Clinton has again faced
questioning about her controversial 1996 comments
about some black youth whom she called super predators. On
Tuesday, Clinton was confronted by a young Somali American woman
during the Clinton campaign stop in a coffee shop in Minneapolis.
She asked the former Secretary of State about her super
predator comments and Hillary want to buy some weeds. The
quiet back and forth ended with Hillary Clinton growing
frustrated and telling the young woman quote, well, why don't you
go run for something then? This comes about a week after Black
Lives Matter activist Ashley Williams confronted Hillary
Clinton about her comments during a private fundraiser in
Charleston, South Carolina.
South Carolina, funny because this woman came in with a big
sign. And it had to do with the blacks are predators and they
should be put under our heel.
Heel, wow, yeah, it
says it was like a booted heel. Yeah, something like that. I
mean, that's what the inference was. And it's gotten it's gotten
a lot of play in the progressive side of things and Democracy Now
it was all over with a head that Ashley Euro from Black Lives
Matter on the show going on a bunch very, very sharp this girl
and and this is going on as an undercurrent, even you haven't
heard about it. That's because nobody else except that super
progressives that are all in for Bernie are talking about it. And
even Bernie doesn't really talk about it, even though it has
hinted that Bill and passed these laws that has resulted in
half the black community being in jail or on their way, and a
lot of blacks kind of know about it, but they're all progressive,
or they're for Bernie already, the majority of the black
community, as you could tell by the results in South Carolina
and elsewhere. Georgia, they haven't got a clue. Okay, well,
whatever we like her
what I find so disturbing. Basically disgusting. Is how
black Americans are being abused in this entire race by both
sides. As long as we can get blacks then we're good to go.
And they love us. They don't love you. They love us. They
love him. They don't it's it really black Americans should
rise up and say Screw this crap. And Van Jones should be the guy
they put up front as screw this crap up. Something happened on
CNN, which became their, their main focus. It's been that way
for the past 36 hours. It was after the debate. And it was Van
Jones, who used to work for President Obama. He's like a,
like an all in climate guy. Yeah, professional commentator.
And also on the panel was Jeffrey Lord and Geoffrey law. I
recognise his face. So I think he's also just a CNN guy, but he
apparently has been on the Trump Train since the beginning and
said, Now this is going to work, this guy is going to do it. So
now he's on every single show, because he's the guy that called
Trump, as you know, as a winner. And, and he's getting a lot of
grief. But what happened is Van Jones turned this into a huge
racial issue. I mean, I mean, really, really disturbing what
he what his initial premise for this argument was, it was
beautiful to watch because it was on late, for the first time
on any cable news programme to people were kind of being real.
You know, it's like, oh, wow, there's an actual argument. It's
not scripted, the gonad each other, and the Jeffrey Lord guy,
when he was essentially being called a racist, and and
protecting a racist. And then he turns around, says, you know,
this is exactly what the Democrats and the Liberals do.
You always use race to divide. And the thing was, it was, it
was really the two sides that we have discussed on the programme
many times, butting heads against each other. It's long,
so when we want to dump out we can dump out. And then I have a
follow up where Van Jones is, you know, he's like the second
coming of Martin Luther King, about him being so having the
courage to have this, this conversation. So you gain for
listening a bit of this fight? Yeah, go.
The things that Donald Trump has done and not just in this race,
are horrible offensive, you can go back with this guy for a long
time, I want to talk, I want to talk because
I didn't say anything. You Bri. Now they're sitting next to each
other. And Van Jones does something continuously, which I
really dislike. When he says I want to let me talk let me
finish or whenever he's making a point, he takes his right hand
and he puts it on the guy's shoulder. And he's holding his
shoulder while he's talking in his face. It was really, really
aggressive.
You can go back to the central jogger case where he came out
and had innocent black kids want to have kids? Well, that's
because it listen to one second. We have a big problem at this
point. Now.
I think the guy called it properly. Right off the bat. He
said Donald Trump, the innocent black kids,
I agree with you about a lot. I think that we have taken him not
seriously. We have not respected his voters. But there is a dark
underside here. And so he is right. He is whipping up and
tapping into and punching buttons that are very, very
frightening to me, like frightening to a lot of people.
So but he feels threatened as a black man is what I'm hearing
him say
number one, when he is playing funny with the Klan. That is not
cool. He did you. I know this man when he gets passionate
about terrorism. I know how he talks about terrorism. The Klan
is a terrorist organisation that is killed left and the
terrorists that it was you can put whatever label you want you
want. That's your that's your game to play? Oh, no, they're
not like that game. Now not gonna understand. Oh, no, no,
you need to take a serious look at the fact that this man has
playing fast and loose and footsy when when you talked
about terrorism, he gets passionate. He says no, this is
wrong. But when he talks about the Klan, oh, I don't know. I
don't know. That's wrong. And then you came on the air. And
you said, Well, this is just like, when Reverend Wright was
speaking. Yeah, right and lynched anybody? Reverend right?
never killed anybody. Right, whatever, right? Never put
anybody on a post and you guys play these word games. And it's
wrong to do in America.
It is wrong. It is wrong to understand that these are not
leftist. They were
doesn't make a lot of different.
People are not Don't play games with that.
So his problem Van Jones problem is that Trump when he talks
about terrorism, he's really mad and angry and aggressive when
when it comes to racism against black Americans. He's not
aggressive enough. This is this is the premise of the whole
argument.
You're right. You're
right. And you don't hide that say that's not part of the base
of the Democratic Party that has been they were the military arm,
the terrorist arm of the Democratic Party, According to
historians have for God's sakes read your history, though. I
listen. I'm not. I don't know. I don't care. His whole
attitude of abiding by race is still here. And this is how
Democrats here.
They voted 50 years ago. I care about who they killed and I care
about American history. It counts you have stood with
Donald Trump. Now let's
take a break for a second. Is that true? Is it Klu Klux Klan
by by the way, it's Ku Klux Klan, but here, one one person
Klux Klan, where they left his terrorist organisation.
They were left as there were Democrats
better. Well, he doesn't want to hear about it our van
and you have made a case well, this
is kind of interesting, because if there's a this when they when
arguments start taking place, for example, he starts talking
about the killings that the Ku Klux Klan managed to orchestrate
yes which was a while ago, but meanwhile he's talking about,
you know, who's killing who. And and then he accused somebody of
being a murderer. But then David Dukes in the not mentioned, but
he's in the conversation. And he hasn't killed anybody if he did
he should be in jail. And the whole thing is mixed up because
of this. The Democrats have. And I think Hillary's little
commentary, but the Black should be under our heel approves it is
like part of his just almost like a giant scam. Because the
Republicans are the ones who historically have benefited the
blacks the most, including Lincoln. And what happened?
Well, mainly, but what happened over the over over time is that
and this began just during Nixon or maybe before they decided to
because it was always locked. The Democrats had the south. And
they were called Dixiecrats, they were renamed kind of, but
they're all this South was just run by Democrats in the voting
rights problems. And all the rest of it was all instituted by
Democrats. It was all Democrats structure. And the Republicans
during I think just prior to Nixon realised that if they
could take over the south with the so called Southern Strategy,
which was the kind of the first SERP that what the Democrats are
up to, and kind of go in there as, unfortunately, I think it's
a negative thing. But they came in as kind of full racists in
the south to kind of move the Democrats out of their position
is that we can outdo you. And we can be we're better for this,
these groups. And they came in took over the South. And with
that they had all this leverage to win a lot of elections. And
they won Nixon, and Reagan and all these guys use the Southern
strategy to get an office because it gets sweep the south
pretty much and it wasn't enough to take the whole country
because the big states are Pennsylvania, and Ohio and
California, which are Democrat states, generally, Ohio does
swing both ways than California. So what you ended up with was
this very strange mix of one side being on one side, one to
flip flopping this way, that way. And so this kind of
argument, if you don't have a historical perspective leads to
what Van Jones comes up with which Republicans are all bad,
and they suck,
and they're racist and black. But what's worse is he's
shouting down the guy saying, Excuse me, this is American
history, it does count. And this is what the Democrats have done
historically. So he just just doesn't want to hear it.
I care about American history, it counts you
have stood with Donald Trump, and you have made a case for
Donald Trump, but nobody else wanted to and you've earned the
respect of an awful lot of people. But when you do not
acknowledge that he did not answer that question with the
passion gets answered with other terrorist organisations, you do
yourself a disservice. You do. Your key has
made this point over and over and over again. This is a media
thing here. Did he make a mistake when he sure but he has
said this many, many times. I've gone back and look, he's well on
record over and over and over again is worse
than that, sir. It's worse than that. That whole thing with
those central jogger kids he got the entire city of New York
whipped up on this idea that these kids have done something
wrong. This has
got to be something that's coming out if you keep saying
central jogger kids he wouldn't he mean Central Park Jogger
kids. There's something brewing with this. There's something
that's going to come to the forefront about Donald Trump's
reaction. I remember this. This was this lady and he's a while
ago at late 80s. And I was in New York. And I don't recall
everyone's saying Donald Trump screwed those black kids but
maybe I wasn't aware at the time that's possible. But Van Jones
is this is the second or third time like a setup. It's a setup
and then when turned out they were innocent. We all make
mistakes, right? He never apologised to those kids. He
never apologised and that's that's a stain on him and you
can walk through time after time where he's done stuff like that
the stuff he said about Native Americans being you know
criminal organisations and markets he said so
what you're doing right here what you're doing here is
dividing people we're all Americans you are dividing
people this is what liberals Do you are dividing people by race
I am this is what liberalism is all about clan divide half by
half a divided by race killed
people by race and he had the opportunity and he
did they did they did it to further the progressive agenda.
Why hello,
listen, that is first of all so rude. Sir. It is no Democratic
Party of the South in the old days with a racist party and you
are correct. You are correct, sir. They were a violent party
and you how
do you think we got better Wilson elect But hold on a sec.
What does that mean? What does that mean?
Well, what happened? Wilson got in because the Republican is
kind of funny, because you may be seeing that again. But Teddy
Roosevelt was the president before and they were probably
gives decided to run some another guy. And so they ran
some guy in the convention. I forgot who it was, but Rosa says
that's bull crap. I'm gonna run it myself and he ran into the
Bull Moose Party created a new borings. All, and so that that
never split the Republicans and when Wilson Wald Stan, and okay,
that's one of the problems that everyone always points to that
as a problem with that with trying to browbeat you what
happened in 1856 with the Republicans. But yeah, guess
what he's talking about? We got a minute to run
here. That's not. So what are you talking about that for? You
played these
days, the Democratic Party and the Democratic Party of today
divides by race.
I have a kid. Seven years old, right? He can't even watch the I
used to live one and say, I don't want you to watch the
Kardashians. And once you watch the news, you can learn
something. You know what? Watching all this nonsense in
your party, he turns around and says, you know, Dad, you're a
liar. He doesn't even know what the word means. But he sees so
much vitriol from your party. He brings that into our house. Now
we got to have him watching Nick Jr. He can't even deserved
civics because of what's going on your party, the circus ring
in your bags do
is kids are being corrupted by Donald Trump. This is these
horror bands and horrible that stretch,
do not play until Donald Trump. I know you. I trust you tell
Donald Trump, he needs for my children's sake for the
children's sake of America, if he's gonna leave this country,
he needs to be as passionate about what is happening have to
be my community as anybody else.
We have to be passionate about making sure that as Robert
Kennedy is to say that this country is colorblind. We have
to as President Kennedy used to say in that Birmingham speech,
that race has no place in American life or law. That's
what we have to do. And we have lost that totally because the
Democratic Party insists on dividing people by race and it's
wrong, morally wrong. Okay.
But what this became, like they were doing soundbite after
soundbite and all look at this. And, of course, you know, Van
Jones, you know, defending the black man, because Donald Trump
didn't wasn't angry enough about the Ku Klux Klan and David Duke,
so called endorsement, which agree they totally mishandled
that. I'm not quite sure. You know, none of none of the optics
of that were good the way he did that. That's not good. It was a
PR mess or
the exit very poorly exit. And there's no reason for him to do
it. Because he's already it doesn't have to do that. Now,
here's what's weird about it, is he was already on the record,
because they have these clips of him from 2008 going off on the
Klan. And Duke Yeah, and
that's what's odd. That's what's odd. But you know, what? You and
I know lots of people like Donald Trump. That lots of rich,
powerful people. And if we took our comms razor for a moment,
and maybe Trump is going to do exactly what he says he'll build
a wall, he'll fix the stuff with China, and help the veterans and
that's all he's gonna do. And I'll hook up with Putin, which I
like I like the Putin thing
that Putin does got more it has more legs than anyone realises.
I think that's the key to the Republican hatred of him. The
Republican strategy right now seems to be to do to not
separate white and black but separate the Russians, the
United States. We were supposed to be partners after the fall of
communism a fall of the Soviet Union. And they were supposed
to, you know, work together and the Russians are a little
sketchy with some of the stuff they do but to create the second
Cold War for no apparent reason than others have taken these
seven countries and taken over the Middle East and being the
war mongers is just doesn't seem like the right way to go. And,
and only Trump is the one that who is promoting this idea of de
taunt Yeah, which is an old word with the Russians. Have and your
list here played it that NBC clip that you are going to play
again, this is the rundown as we speak of what's going on and the
kind of attacks that the I do want to come back to this Van
Jones thing after this. Yeah, you come back to that ask you to
prayerfully consider are coming together. United.
Right now that's not happening, which is why top Republicans are
sharpening their knives in a last ditch effort to stop Trump.
Mitt Romney tomorrow delivering a major speech laying out the
case against the billionaire piling on a slew of top
Republican donors and conservative groups wanting to
blanket the airwaves with anti Trump ads, Trump
picks on workers and
widows. He won't do a thing to China and Mexico.
on Super Tuesday, Trump in his palatial Palm Beach Golf Club,
watching election returns.
Just got to stop it there. Well done on the on the hall looking
like the White House. Well done. Mr. Trump. This you see that?
And they use the word palatial by the way to them, which is not
necessarily Yeah, it was very good. He looked like the
brightness. It looks like that. Anyway.
I liked that. That was a good production
campaign juggernaut rolling on and over his opponents tonight
Dr. Ben Carson. indicating he'll soon drop out right now the only
establishment name in Trump's corner New Jersey Governor Chris
Christie, so many people examining his face last night
standing behind the billionaire today. 60 Jersey papers calling
on Christie to resign, writing. We're fed up with Governor Chris
Christie's arrogance. We're disgusted with his endorsement
of wow,
wow, that's like me reading an email. Do you what he's doing?
were disgusted with the Bucha he's doing a voice
fed up with Governor Chris Christie's arrogates were
disgusted with his endorsement of Donald Trump
is doing the voice. We're discussing with a young girl and
she's arrogates were disgusted with his endorsement of Donald
Trump. What an embarrassment. What an utter disgrace. Donald
Trump. I can brush it all off for he's setting his sights on
Hillary Clinton.
She wants to make America whole again. And I'm trying to figure
out what is that all about? Make America Great Again is going to
be much better than making America Whole Again,
was such an easy open door they left for
him got to be a very interesting race ahead. Tom Yamas. With us
live from Michigan tonight and Tom Dr. Ben Carson has dropped
out of the Fox debate tomorrow night. What does this mean?
That's right, David. His campaign is now winding down.
But what many people are talking about what many people are gonna
be watching that debate? Donald Trump is going to be face to
face with one of his biggest enemies. Fox News is Megan
Kelly. You will remember they had that epic war of words in
the first ever debate this campaign season. Tomorrow night.
She's one of the CO moderators
is leading us off tonight. Tom, thank you for watching
some controversy.
Tom Yamas is the Who's the one of the many showers on ABC the
CBS network news guys, when they do in their field reporters,
they have to shout. Yeah, because they shout and shout and
shot. But he is the one ABC as a antiTrump station. We know that
there were the Jeb Bush group, and now they don't know what
they're doing. And it's I think it's still good to follow what
they what they do, because it's a lot of shouting from the
reporter and careful contemplation by David Muir.
So Don Lemon last night, late last night, had Van Jones on
again, the van is now every job. He's on every show as well,
because he stood up. So here we have two black guys. And I
learned a couple things. And it was something that this Lord guy
said at the very end of that first clip that I it was
educational moment. But in the whole the segment is like oh god
and
Jones is here with me now deeply personal for you.
deeply personal this argument?
Yeah, that was completely unplanned on. We literally had
we were supposed to be talking about the Republican party, the
Republican Party actually I wasn't even gonna say anything
at all. And somehow, we wind up appeasing Jay, I don't think
either of us expected to have a live on the air. Did you know
sometimes people have conversations in the green room,
you don't have a mindset we had we had that green room parking
lot conversation right there on the set.
This is a very nice little quote with God, because that is the
problem with mainstream media in general. But all the good stuff
never makes it onto the air because it's scripted. It's
completely controlled, it's time to hit the the commercial break
and the top of the hour. This is why we never speak to each other
except on the programme because you miss all the beauty of it.
And I agree it was a very nice segment, a human segment on CNN
for the first time and as long as I've been watching the place.
Yeah.
And it was and I think there were there were tears in the
eyes of people, camera people.
Did you have tears in your eyes listening to it? Tears because
it was a black man. A fear? No, he's had tears in their eyes
tears in the camera. People were crying on
camera people and other people that at the break. I mean, it
was it was a cathartic moment for everybody there. And then
of course, so full of it. Yeah,
because we solved the racial tension friended
worldwide and trended worldwide, this whole bigger thing became
this whole bigger thing. It's a whole bigger thing. Now because
Van Jones is trained it was it was a cathartic moment for
everybody there. And then of course, it trended worldwide and
turn into his whole bigger thing, but just in the intimacy
of a bunch of people who've worked together for so hard so
laundered his primary season.
Oh, so it's such hard work.
I did a lot of motion just came out. Yeah,
he listened. I was transfixed by now this is interesting. I
learned something that as I was getting, I stopped getting
dressed last night. And I've watched this. And I was like I
was kept saying, I wish I was there. I wish I was you know, I
wish I was there. Because we often have these conversations
on this show you and I even sometimes You and I disagree on
certain things and we had sort of Heart to Heart moments, which
is what you should do. But the whole point of the thing that
got me was the whole idea that this is somehow has to do with
ideology that is somehow has to do with the right versus the
left and you know the The Democrats in the Ku Klux Klan. I
understand what that had to do with
it. It was well, it's unfortunate because there's a
small part of the right that has this revisionist history where
they want to say everything in the world had ever happened was
the left. So Hitler was a leftist. The Klan is a leftist.
And it's somebody
who's not true. was Hitler a leftist?
I don't think so. I mean, it's questionable. I mean, the you
have to look at what's interesting is the fascist
movement, which was he was part of Van Jones, he's only became a
net it would became national socialism. So you could say
because the word socialism because Right, right, it was
corporatism. It was leftist. And so you can make you can kind of
vaguely make that argument. But the thing that's always
noteworthy is the fascism itself, which began in the late
20s was an academic movement which was, which was I say, you
could the academic scene was very similar that it always is
which is tends to be lefty
cycling is wrong. It doesn't matter. Exactly right. Exactly.
There's there's horrible people on the right and horrible people
on the left, and there's horrible racists and bigots on
the right. And I'm horrible racist, because on the left,
that why are we having this conversation, though? What the
question is,
yeah, why? Why van Why are you having this conversation right
now the
Klan is not endorsing Hillary Clinton. The Klan is not
endorsing Bernie Sanders. The Klan is endorsing Donald Trump,
which is an opportunity for
which is not entirely a guy who used to be in the Ku Klux Klan
said did not endorse he said go out in the clans endorsing now
this and I think Duke was a 40 years ago maybe that he was in
the clan a while back. He's a douche. But it's not factually
Donald Trump to stand up and do what Reagan did when when the
Klan tried to endorse Reagan, Reagan took them to the
woodshed.
Is that true?
Not that I know it was ugly,
and your expand Jones
wasn't around then we're barely I barely remember that.
I think that from a Trump and instead you get well I disavow.
Okay, let's move on. And that, to me, is a very sad moment.
This isn't his whole point is he wanted Trump to be more. It'd be
the words don't matter. It's the way he said it that take Van
Jones off this. This is interesting. And
listen, if the Klan is a leftist organisation, they'd be
endorsing Bernie Sanders. But why are we having that
conversation? The question is not just Why is Trump not
pushing away hard from this group, if ISIS endorsed Trump,
Trump would go crazy. If al Qaeda endorsed Trump, Trump
would go crazy. We have a terrorist organisation in the
United States that is and white supremacist since 911 have
killed more Americans and Muslims, the Muslims have killed
and then jihadists have killed. And so if you're going to be
anti terrorist leader, which is what Trump is supposed to be,
you should be hard on al Qaeda. You should be hard on ISIS, and
you should be hard on the
fan. Listen.
The other thing that I found and you know this, here's the
learning moment, John, for white men a learning moment,
as you said, Jeffrey, Lord, we have him on the Jeffrey Lord is
a nice man. Yes, but does he I don't understand. He understands
how offensive it is when people say oh, that Dr. King wanted,
you know, a colorblind society. That's not what Dr. King wanted.
Dr. King wanted people to recognise people for their
qualities for their fuller lips or bigger nose or darker
skinned, whatever, whatever it is that you bring into the
society culturally. But in spite of that, or because of that, to
judge people on their content of character who wants to live in a
colorblind society. That's disingenuous. ICU is black. You
see, I see blond hair, I see blue eyes. I see people who are
Asian I see yarmulke is what am I not supposed to see all those
things? I'm supposed to love my brother because of their
differences. Not not to be blind to them.
You know, whenever somebody tells me, well, you know where
I'm just colorblind. I say you might want to see a doctor.
Good point. I think I've probably said that in the past.
Well, you've been bitching about your eyesight for some time.
Now, but the I think that is an incorrect interpretation. And
it's kind of like men saying I'm a feminist. Like I'm colorblind,
I think that's good. That's a good way and you're not
colorblind
MCI Mail lesbian.
Anyway, I learned something there and I agree and I need to
I need to
correct myself I would I would say that something that
it's a good takeaway. Yeah,
I mean, mine I
mean, Van Jones otherwise. With that, I think I should thank you
for your courage and passion send you love and light and say
in the morning to you John, with a C stands for Content of
Character Devorah check
it well in the morning to you also in the morning all ships
and sea boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the
water and all the games tonight's up
in the morning to the chat room. Hey, everybody, how you doing? I
know agenda stream.com in the morning to our artists in
particular want to say in the morning to Baron now. subohm who
brought us the artwork for episode 803 title of the show
Joe Hitler. And it was the first President Washington George
Washington with a make American Great Again. Trump hat is good.
I picked up one of those at the rally.
I had a I have a red one that somebody sent me in the mail.
One of the originals you get a white one a red one I got a blue
one. I didn't even know there were blue ones.
I got one that's made in China. I thought that was funnier than
but I want to get the official one I got the religious season
this was made in China.
No I got the one that was that wasn't actually on the premises
but kind of where you're walking from parking your car. The
bootleg the bootleg like I needed his blue hat which made
in China perfect Yeah, so that is the newsletter went out did
that work? Did everything go? Okay, are we happy with
it? Wasn't that good? I mean, I think it went out but nobody
cares. I mean, this is a moment in you know this happens every
year. Some point we have you know it disinterested? I don't
know why. Maybe show 808 will pick things up because 808 is to
Lucky Chinese numbers. And that could maybe Oh, that would be
nice. Eight away. And 8008 is a palindrome? Yeah. So it's a bad
thing. 8008 could be could be
808. Not 8008 8008. No, no. 808 That's three number eight always
no good at Oh, wait. eight to eight is 8008
No, eight. Oh, dot O eight.
Oh, I'm sorry. I gotcha. $80.08. I gotcha.
Yeah. $80.08.
This is our first executive, not the middle. Our first executive
producer sent us the Warren Piece.
Yeah, he sent us He sent us his novel as his comments. Yeah,
that's the Sir Edward of Bridgewater in Bridgewater, New
Jersey 3333. And I don't know quite what we should read here.
Well, I think if you get to the opening three lines, you'll see
that he's stoned.
A man. I'm hearing a ringing sound much like that made by a
Tibetan bowl. And that's when I realised my commands is now the
captain's chair of a starship, which is hurtling headlong into
an asteroid field. The top of the largest asteroid is Jerry
Hall, but not the old fogy fucking Jerry of today. But the
young rock star Jerry profane, very profane, as she appeared on
the cover of the fifth Roxy Music Album, and the ringing
sound morphs into what is the story stone on LSD? No, he's
he had Xanax in blueberry cookies.
Oh, is that what he says later
he says the DA while sitting on my throne enveloped in a haze
Anders
slide down the slide into oblivion. Jerry grabs my hand
and pulls me up. When I realise the asteroid is now Mount
Rushmore, and I'm holding Eva Marie Saint hand, and it's me
saving her. When suddenly, Eva becomes divorce rack, at which
point I lose my grip and John plummets to the rocks below
shouting douche bag. As he descends to his demise, fall
back through Roosevelt's eyes, and then I'm in a dark room
strapped into a real throne, and through the door walks Uma
Thurman, so we can kind of guess his age by these women. He's
idolising
I'm guessing 50. It goes on and on. It was his entire story.
To fund little, he should consider writing a little giblet
on Amazon, a shirt. I would read it
backwards. The way it starts is dynamite. Just drawn in a bunch
of random stuff. And he has he has a birthday when a jingle or
so he doesn't know No, he but he hasn't. Thanks, Sir Edward for
the Enlightenment into your boy your brain work and
blueberry and Xanax. Breakfast of Champions,
Xanax and that's something that's good for you. But Thomas
Nussbaum came in with $301 Virginia Beach, Virginia Duke
Nussbaum he says here i the show here i The show is going great.
The show is going great. He says they will see Adam on the road
soon. Give me us a shout out are you once again for the three
everybody wants to get out of my vagina. Look at the Jews and Yom
and maybe the scream Vash Parma I'm guessing this Ah, he
wants to juice juice. I was so enamoured with the with our
previous note that I hadn't hadn't gone ahead and work the
head yet. Juice. What was the last one? All right. Oh, scream
scream the screen and economy. Okay. My headphones are also all
of a sudden decided provide a little bit of
feedback, Joseph you're very wise doing Oh my gosh. Can you
see that too?
You've got karma moment thank you very much for the for the
artwork on the previous show good work.
So we have Joseph Gilbert here and I'm looking at the email. I
don't see anything
we check.
I look for Gilbert I find nothing. So we'll have to wait
for him to send us another note. He sent a note in the first
place. Anyway, Joseph Gilbert Parts Unknown $300. Okay.
Onward. John Glover in this day. Those are executive producers.
And now we have one Associate Executive producers in the word
done. John Glover in Zillow, Washington. If there is even as
a Zillow please say this on the air for correction pro
homeowners like I think I haven't. Was it Brian Gilbert?
No joke. That's how I got nothing. Keep going.
Okay, thanks for the mention of cool Tura winery on show 803.
But I have a correction. Adam said I am a retired NSA
employee. I don't remember you saying that.
That was that was the one I got from one of our subs under the
water guys. And he said this is a retired agent and he now has
wine.
What was he doing in a sub?
Now his friend was at the meetup who was an assault? Oh,
he says I never worked for any government agency, let alone the
White House white haired guys. It doesn't meet really mostly
CIA. I don't know what the NSA guys have white here. But of
course, that's what I think they shoot him up with something. And
then they do their hair turns white.
Let's read the note.
Oh. But of course, that's what a government agent would say. If I
was a government agent, I would have known that you both were
broadcasting in your underwear the whole time too, which is
probable? Indeed. Me and my wife were just lifelong farmers that
have been have a passion for red wine. Also, the wine is only $40
Not 100. Show me your address so I can get you some out to you
both. The show? Well, we
drank it. We drank our $40 bottle was done. I never got it.
Send me an address and they'll send you some. And I think this
concludes
our little group of producers in the US. Yes. Producers and
executive producers for show 8:04am I remind people we do
have a show coming up on Sunday short week. The
varric.org/anaise a place to go and help us out. Yes,
please remember us for the coming programme. Maybe just a
quick little new jingle we got in it just when you thought that
no, no nose could not get any better. Conan salada brought us
anyway.
Okay. You know what? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're in my
house. Drink in the booth. Shame on.
Outstanding. Dan. Dan, we're at 10 especially good drinking the
booze very well. done.org/in All right. You may not be able to
support us financially. Oops, what the hell was that? We'll
try that again. Maybe if you can support us financially, you can
always go out and propagate the formula formula is this Christ.
We had people in the mouth
somebody complained to me that I had hit the I hit the gong. And
he's got his headphones on. He's able
to hurt us. Well, I have I have my zenergy chime John by have
this zenergy solo chime here it is. That thing is amazing. The
resin ring that long? Yes.
Still going. Oops, hit the mic. Wow. Yes. It's, uh, you know
what? When I hear this chime, I just stop and I become calm. And
I think donate
anyway, so I use my is the gong over modulated?
No, it's not over modulated it has it some certain frequency
that cuts through, but it does something to the processing that
it overrides everything doesn't matter what I do when you hit
the gong, I cannot even get over the gong sign No matter what's
playing, it's just it's a beautiful frequency. I like it.
I
wonder what it is. The frequencies bring the big Gong
up here and see if we're dead does anything that did oh, it
was huge. It probably showed. Like the big Gong.
You know, sad news, John. It finally happened. You'd already
set me up for it. The ad set me up for it. And you told me
what's coming and I was hopeful that it wouldn't happen. I'm
very sad eight years sad day in American history. It did take
place it all
happened overnight
restock inventory of groceries, souvenir items. All the
computers needed to be changed out all the cash registers. You
know you think about it, you're going from one company to
another
Yosemite National Park undergoing a full makeover.
Hundreds of signs now displaying new names for several old iconic
landmarks
or villages now halftone village Ahwahnee hotel is now the
majestic Yosemite hotel,
the majestic Yosemite whole hotel at Curry Village gone
How did these guys get the whole of these things as copyrighted
trademark? Well, this
is this is the issue of the report. So we'll continue here
somebody's hotel
name changes come as Aramark takes over as a new
concessionaire, the previous one Delaware North, leaving with a
few stones left unturned during the course of its contract. Park
Ranger Scott ngadimin says Delaware North filed to
trademark the iconic names without the knowledge of the
park.
However, we as the National Park Service, do not feel that these
trademarks are valid.
So the park is fighting back.
Someone else trademarked the names and then it's it's not a
part of the deal. That that's what's happening. The new guys
coming in, they can't or they don't want to purchase the old
names or whatever the issue is they would trade one $50
million. Is that what they want? 50 million. Yeah, it's worth it
was not they brought
a lawsuit against Delaware North. And in addition, they
filed a petition with the United States Patent and Trademark
Office asking them to cancel the standing trademarks, which is
why the signs are temporary.
The history of these properties goes back you know in privileges
for example, way over 100 years. Yes, these names belong to the
American people,
belongs to the American people. He said American people belong
to American people Kirk cam curry, Curry Village. What do
you do when
people are gears and that these names belong to the American
people?
I agree I have relinquished My name for
them because they even trademark the name Yosemite National Park.
The new merchandise created by Aramark only features the name
Yosemite,
I really don't care for it too much at all. But you know, I
still remain here and enjoy this beautiful place.
Visitors say they just want everything to stay the same. I'm
sad
to see it that it's getting broken or lawyers.
But this is all about one thing. And by the way, sir bemrose If
you were listening, I said that John had told me this was
happening if this is now the information about why it's
happened and what the problem is. Be quiet, the memories that
were here. You just want to associate it I think with the
names and stuff that you already knew, you know, here comes
this is all for one big benefit to the American people for
Yosemite Park.
Out of the contract Aramark, plans to remodel several of the
parks, restaurants and concessions while also bringing
new food items to the menus the contract will last for the next
15 years fantastic
new food items in Yosemite this is well worth it.
Sad kale.
Sad, it's just sad.
I have a couple I actually uh, you know, I'm looking at my
clips. I have the opportunity for a clip Blitz, you have the
end of the show. Okay. We haven't done that for a while.
People listening.
Let me see. Okay, I'll keep this one. Right now I'll put it there
for the end of the show. We'll be ready.
I do have a quick clip that might lead into something I
believe you're working on. Okay. What you got is the FBI versus
Apple a second case.
In a victory for privacy advocates. A federal judge has
rejected an FBI request to force Apple to unlock a drug dealers
iPhone. Monday's ruling came hours before Apple in the Obama
administration face off and a congressional hearing today over
Apple's refusal to help the FBI break into the iPhone of one of
the San Bernardino massacre suspects. That's in a separate
case. Yes.
That's right. And that
day, well, while we're at it, and we got one more little
prelude to what you're going to report on. Okay. And this I
picked up on on the outnumbered show. This is where you have a
bunch of women one one dude, in one dude. And you don't get to
hear otherwise known as the Mormon show. That you don't get
to hear the dude at all but you get to hear these women.
Interesting. And this is on Fox. So it's interesting how they're
so against the FBI. I am pro apple. With this discussion they
have that that is a little as a two minute clip, surely it's a
conversation. It's this conversation, but they go into a
bunch of interesting memes. And then they really sigh The the
end of it is kind of priceless.
And I'm not sure which clip it is, though John chicken coop. I
could have known
Andrea and many out there are speculating that this is about
much more this is about the FBI and the government wanting to
always be able to get into those iPhones. And this isn't a one
off situation. But the government is very good at
making this look like it is a one off scenario, the way they
put it, and it stuck with me. The government said we're asking
Apple to remove the vicious guard dog that hurts national
security so that we can the law Wow, this is just a one house or
a one phone situation, which is turning out It very much is not
but
that also Sandra makes Apple a villain. In this entire
situation. You're gonna label Apple as the vicious dog Kabuki
theatre, or it's important to headline that I don't know if
the media is conveniently missing this New York Times
story or the facts of this, or they're they're just not doing
their homework. New York Times reports, the FBI acknowledged
that they screwed this up from the start. Yeah, they went in
and mess this case up by changing the passcode. That's
why we're talking about this, the FBI dropped the ball. And
they acknowledged that and they acknowledged that yet you hear
these emotional arguments from people they need to unlock the
phone, people are gonna die. I've heard even lawyers make
these arguments that don't make sense. The facts of the of the
matter are, this is a larger agenda. It's not about opening
one phone. The government wants to end all encryption
technologies. And this is the way to do it. Everything else is
PR and kabuki theatre, get Congress away from this. They're
only doing it so they can get free airtime and raise money
from lobbyists keep them away from this Apple should stand
firm.
The government doesn't particularly have a great track
record with technology, if you will.
Yeah, I gotta tell you, am I the only person here who's terrified
the greatest intelligence service in the world can't break
into a phone
call? Call the Israelis? Hey, can you write there you go?
That's a plan. Yeah, call the Israeli Israelis.
There was a knife in the back
there in the there in the two one area code. So you can just
call the Israelis? There's not a problem. Just give them a call.
It's a low. It's not even a toll call. Just local. Yeah. So I
watched all four hours and 30 minutes of the testimony. Which
I had an interesting name the encryption. Oh, what was it on?
It had a name that was the first time I saw a name titled On
on C span. No, they do that all the time. He's never noticed
that or something. But I've seen it lots was the the title these
these things with some cornball name,
the the the encryption debate or something. And I decided to just
pull a couple of short Well, a number of short clips that are
they're all pretty much short. And I can tell you the
conclusion right up front. The government doesn't know what
they're talking about, as in the representatives, that every
single one of them had the pieces wrong misunderstanding, a
lot of it was very, very repetitive. Then they brought
out the apple lawyer, Brian Sewell, I think his name is not
the big deal, not the top dog, but we figured would be the guy
running it. And this guy had a, you know, it was very odd. And I
think I wouldn't call it Kabuki theatre, but theatre for sure.
But to start off with, just to whet our appetite a bit, because
we mentioned him earlier, Ed Schultz on our tea. You got to
find out when he's when he's on in your area, John Schultz is
the he has like a hot Russian chick who's there kind of to
hand him the stories, and then he just gives his opinion. But
they got infrastructure for him, you know, they got they so he
has Libertarian Presidential candidate John McAfee on the
show. McAfee he's, he's not stoned, he's not stoned as
usual. Then, you know, he's not touching his nose the whole
time. But he's gonna get that cool, you know, the goatee
going. He's got the sunglasses hanging around his neck. And
I've always wondered, you know, he keeps saying, Oh, I can crack
this and in half an hour, half an hour. Give it to me, I'll
take care of it. And I and now I understand why he's saying that
and what his idea is or his his system, which he says, will
block bar him from ever being in the hacker community from this
day on because he's revealing the secrets.
Question. Yes, I make this issue simple for the American public
and for the FBI that who clearly does not understand these
devices or computers, whether it's an Android phone and iOS
phone, or whatever. Inside is a processor, which is the
computer, the instruction set, which is the iOS and all the
applications that you run, and the memory in which you store
Are your data. Now let's take the FBI case, the FBI wants
Apple to change their software so that it removes the the check
for security so that we don't check for security anymore. Once
Once it has that software, it can use that software on any
phone. But they say they only needed for one phone. So I'm
going to tell the world exactly how we do this. Now I'll
probably lose my my admission to the world hackers community,
however, I want to tell you, you need a hardware engineer and a
software engineer, the hardware engineer takes the phone apart.
And it copies the instruction set, which is the iOS and
applications and your memory. And then you run a piece of a
programme called a disassembler, which takes all the ones and
zeros and gives you readable instructions, then the coder
sits down and he reads through. And what he's looking for is the
first access to the keypad, because that's the first thing
you're doing when you input your pad. It'll take half an hour.
When you see that then he reads the instructions for where in
memory, this secret code is stored it is that trivial. A
half an hour, the the IRA the FBI knows this. Apple knows
this. And this is not an indictment of Apple, any
computer. And this is a computer, any computer that
falls into someone's hands. Well, anybody can do it, which
is why corporate data centres keep their computers locked up,
and which is why we ought to keep our own phones locked up.
Now. Do you think that this is actually something that can be
done that way?
Well, I know what he's saying. Yeah, I
understand that. You know, he's going
It's interesting what he's trying to say, because there is
it's getting the code off the thing. I'm not sure how you do
that. But I suppose it's doable. Maybe that's what Apple's needed
for. Now, there's there's some belief that the way this thing
is structured, and there's an in there's a lot of encryption
involved. I understand in in the code itself, so the code isn't
just running straight up. And that means this is that error,
error. 53 or whatever it is.
That's yeah, that's part of the Secure Enclave thing with a sub
part
of iOS nine. Yeah. If you would try to, if you take a phone
apart and put it back together, because you didn't say it had a
bad button, and you want it, you take the phone apart, put a new
button and put it put it back together. This error shows up in
other phones bricked?
Yeah. But But that's that has nothing to do with what he's
talking about. That is I
know, but I'm just saying that there is a belief that the the
only reason that would happen if you when you will go to iOS nine
is because according to the people that talk about this
error, the phone is like a a hole. It's like, once somebody
messes with one element of it, because there's like a it's like
a whole phone requires a checksum, let's say. And so you
go in there and you you pull that little piece of code out
and try to run things again, there's still this check some
element that's going on that would look as an ANA, this phone
has been touched. And now the phone is bricked. I don't know
that he can get around that necessarily. Now, maybe you can
if
well, but he's saying something different. He's saying the
before you take it apart, you hit the touchpad with you know,
just a couple of digits, then you look in the in all the
registries, I guess, within the chip itself, and that number has
to show up somewhere and that you could do that. I guess
before an error 53 Because that seems to appear only when you
put it together and then upgrade the iOS. That's when that
happens. But that's fine. It doesn't really matter that much.
It's we don't know. We don't know you. You want to
know, I would like to see, here's what I would do, I would
say is McAfee correct. Let's find out. Let's take a phone, an
iPhone five, encoded, encrypted. User go use the pet you turn
everything on so it's safe. And then give it to him and say
okay, crack this phone before he touched the FBI phone, right?
Let's see if you can do it. If you can, if he can show that you
can do it a proof of concept with another phone, not the one
that you you don't want screwed up. Then I say Okay, great. Now
take the real phone and go for it. Yeah, I have seen none. I
have not seen this. I want to see that.
Well, there was there were a couple other ideas on how to how
to do this that came up in the conversation. But first we start
off with Mr. Comey. Mr. Comey had all kinds of little ditties
that he just spread around. He to me he was freewheeling he did
not really have a grasp of the material. We got caught a lot on
things. He just had no idea. He was honest. He said, I don't
know. I don't know. I don't know. And here is his first
start of the whole deal.
I hear folks talking about keys and backdoors actually don't see
that this way when there are issues about backdoors This is a
Bow. There's already a door on that iPhone. Essentially, we're
asking Apple to take the vicious guard dog away. Let us try and
pick the lock. The later phones, as I understand the six and
after there aren't doors, so there isn't going to be can you
take the guard dog away and let us pick the lock?
Hmm. Though that was my ears perked up. Because this is
clearly not just about these old phones, this entire charade.
Feraud is for something else. And we'll probably learn as we
go through. And I do want to say that I told you when you sent me
the newsletter for to proofread. And I said, Oh, yeah, I'll have
my report on Apple, which in the newsletter turned into Adam has
discovered something big in the Apple case. While you roasted
me, bro. That was not fair. That was not fair. Why? I didn't say
I had something big.
Well, you got some this is big to me.
Okay, we continue. Now we have this is Congressman Nadler, who
does understand encryption. Comey, not so much
encryption software is free, open source and widely
available. If Congress was to pass a law forcing us companies
to provide law enforcement with access to encrypted systems?
Would that law stop bad actors from using their own encryption?
It would not. It would not. So the bad actors would just get
around it.
Sure. encryptions always been available to bad actors nation.
So
So if we were to pass a law, saying that Apple and whoever
else had to put backdoors or whatever you want to call them
into their systems, the bad actors that were concerned with
all the appropriate with all the concomitant
smooth, good word concomitant,
yes, I use that word. It's all the follow up stuff is out of
means no good stuff that happens in parallel.
Oh, Concannon, it's good word, I'm gonna learn another word.
Whoever else had to put backdoors or whatever want to
call them into their systems, the bad actors that were
concerned with all the appropriate with all the
concomitant surrenders of privacy, etc, etc. The bad
actors could easily get around that by making their own
encryption systems.
The reason I'm hesitating is, I think we're mixing together two
things, data in motion and data at rest. Oops,
this is where he goes wrong. But I'm not quite sure what to say.
But a date a motion data,
guys couldn't make the rounds. But the bad guy,
I mean, rewind that a bit. So he does not he has such a lack of
understanding. He thinks that this encryption, or at least
he's feigning lack of understanding is about the phone
and not about just taking a file, encrypting it and sending
it off, if free and clear, it's an encrypted file.
I'm the reason I'm hesitating is, I think we're mixing
together two things, data in motion and data at rest, the bad
guys couldn't make their own phones. But the bad guys could
always try and find a device that was strongly encrypted. The
big change here happened in the fall of 2014, when the companies
flipped from available encryption to default, and this
is when Apple also stated as a part of their terms of service
and part of their legal guidelines for law enforcement
agencies. They said, As of iOS eight, we no longer can provide
the service of extracting data for you. And this, of course, is
when this really started.
And that's a stop there for segue. This is really and this
seems to stem because of the coincidental dates from the
Snowden release. Oh, yeah. So they were Apple showed up on it
on a on an NSA or CIA slide in a deck. Yes. selling out to the
government. Yes.
Which at that time, they arguably were doing.
Yes, yeah.
Available encryption to default. And that's that's the shadow
going dark. But
couldn't foreign companies, and bad actors generally do that?
Whatever we said,
Sure. Potentially, people could say, I love this American
device, but because I worry about a judge ordering access to
it. I'm going to buy this phone from a Nordic country that's
different in some way that could happen. I have a hard time
seeing it happen. A lot. Could happen. I knew you'd like that.
Talking about
well, his mission is clearly to have devices in the United
States. Created with a way for law enforcement get all that
data from law enforcement to get in. Okay. Then we have Darryl
ice Adair Lysa. Famous for his technology prowess for
patenting, inventing and marketing successfully the Viper
car alarm system. I don't know if he did more. But he seems to
think that he's an expert in the encryption security because of
his Viper car alarm. Background. What else did he do?
No, I thought he was an entrepreneur of some sort. He
had the vital troublemaker in these events, though,
but and so he had he had an idea of how to get around the 10
tries, your 10 tries, you're busted and the delay in between
every single attempt, which it's No less reasonable than what
McAfee was saying earlier. But he's really doing it to make a
point we
have engaged all parts of the US government. See, does anybody
have a way short of asking Apple to do it with a five c running
iOS nine to do this? And we do not.
Okay, well, let's go through the five c running iOS nine is does
the five c have a non volatile memory in which all of the
encrypted data and the selection switches for the phone settings
are all located in that encrypted data?
This is a question but
I don't know. It does. Take my word for it for now.
Because I Hold on Why is he asking question that he knows
the answer to
because he's making a point. He wants to make a point these an
asshole. That's what you do in the in these hearings, you've
set someone up to come up with an answer you say, well, in
fact, they do this the setup, that's what they do.
That means that you can in fact removed from the phone all of
its memory, all of its non volatile memory, its disk drive,
if you will, and set it over here and have a true copy of it
that you could conduct infinite number of attacks on, let's
assume that you can make an infinite number of copies once
you make one copy. Right? Right. I have no idea. I don't know.
Well, let's go through what you asked. And I'm doing this
because I came out of the security business. And this
befuddles me that this
car alarms is now the security business according to ISO, I,
like
haven't looked at the source code. And you don't really
understand the disk drive, at least to answer my rather dumb
questions, if you will, if there's only a memory, and that
memory, that non volatile memory sits here, and there's a chip
and the chip does have an encryption code that was burned
into it. And you can make 10,000 copies of this chip, this non
volatile memory hard drive, then you can you can perform as many
attacks as you want on it. Now you've asked specifically Apple
to defeat the finger code, so you can attack it Oh,
automatically, so you don't have to punch in codes. You've asked
them to eliminate the the 10 and destroy, but you haven't as far
as I know. And I like that 10 and destroy them. Okay, if we
make 1000 copies, or 2000 copies of this, and we put it with the
chip, and we run five tries 00 through 04. And then throw that
image away and put another one in and do that 2000 times Won't
we have tried with a non changing chip and an encryption
code that is duplicated 2000 times when we have tried all
10,000 possible combinations in a matter of
hours by like that idea. That could also possibly work.
My mind you guys got a 40 character password, which you
can do with an apple. Yeah,
but we pretty sure he did. Nobody has that. Well, we know
he didn't because they look at the phone. It could be well we'd
actually you're right, we don't know and ask
that question. The question is, how can you come before this
committee and before a federal judge and demand that somebody
else invent something? If you can't answer the questions that
your people have tried this?
And I think that Comey came unprepared and he should have
expected this. And you know, at this point, I'm also asking,
Well, what the hell is this whole thing about what are they
having this conversation about? Alright, first, we need some a
little more. We have more splainin to do before the I
presume that's how Comey talks to his team. Okay, I gotta tell
these boneheads what exactly is going on. They don't understand
Secure Enclave and then the 1010 and destroy and the timeouts and
how do I how do
I explain I want to make a stop you here for a second? Just a
little commentary, please. As I was reading some article by all
you know, we have to do these and of course those the women in
the chicken coop one of them said, Well, you know, the
government's pretty poor with technology. And so I'm reading
and one of the magazines or newspapers about how the
government's looking for the best hackers, the best guys.
Yes, people that hack the Pentagon exercise. They want all
these things and then But meanwhile, if you talk to
anybody in the community they don't want anybody that that's
actually competent because they won't pass the security checks.
They're not squeaky clean. Some of them are transgender God,
what are we gonna do with that hose? You can't you know, it's
the
hi I'm Tank Girl. I'm here to hack the iPhone.
If if the government won't, like find a way to implement use
these people, the real hackers, the guys who have a lot of them
are a social, some of them are Aspergers and a lot of all kinds
of
and a lot of them don't want to work against the government.
A lot of them would do with the kind of money they can get or
even cause Well, that would have nothing to do with them.
They have to have consultants they can't hire them. They can't
hire them. They can't they can't they because government you
know, they have we have a cyber force which is all volunteer
Here, there's no money. These guys are getting stuck. They're
getting out. Yeah, screw it. Screw you. Okay, though anyway,
call me has to explain to the stupid people what the concept
is between the encrypted data which they want to get at, which
I guess is two and 56 DS encrypted. And you know, good
luck with that. But, but first we have to remove the guard dog
and he has to explain this in simple terms. There we go.
So rather than giving you the key, it's really you want apple
to turn the security system off so they can get into the phone
or you can get into the phone.
Yeah, my homely metaphor was take away the drooling watchdog
is going to attack us if we try and open it. Give us time to
pick the lock. Oh, man,
country metaphors so nice. Okay, then we have Gowdy, I like to
drooling the drool as the drooling guard, he
has to be drooling. Is it watchdog good enough?
No. This is all about sound bites. Then we get Trey Gowdy
Gowdy, he wants Apple to open it up, D is D, and he has a couple
of beautiful terms in here. And he's just an interesting guy to
listen to in general. Of course, he isn't also an attorney,
I have colleagues and others who are advocating for these
evidence free zones, nice
evidence free zones. This is when we're getting down to brass
tacks, they're just gonna be it's a great term, I know it's a
great term. And what he's talking about, is having a
device for the first time in history that is only accessible
to the person who holds the the key in their head, and no one
else can open it. That's this is part of what the conversation is
about
evidence free zones. They're just going to be compartments of
life where you are precluded from going to find evidence of
anything. And I'm trying to, I'm trying to determine whether or
not we as a society are going to accept that that there are
certain no matter how compelling the government's interest is,
and accessing that evidence. We are declaring right now, this is
an evidence free zone. You can go here, no matter whether it's
a terrorist plot, national security, there's nothing that
the government has a more compelling interest in than
that. And we're going to create evidence free zones. Am I
missing something? Is that? Is that how you see it that you
just can't go in these categories? unless somebody's
concerned?
That's my worry. And why I think it's so important we have this
conversation, because even on the surface thing, it sounds
great when people say, Hey, you buy this device, no one will
ever be able to look at your stuff. But there are times when
law enforcement saves our lives, rescues our children.
Okay. Okay. So there it is. There's, there's there's what
Comey is really talking about that we cannot have evidence
free zones, because not that they want to do proper law
enforcement know that he's gonna come up with a hope. And then he
doesn't even use terrorism in his argument. No, because your
children may be lost, you know, you may not be able to solve
them homicide, or children,
and rescues our neighbourhoods by going to a judge and getting
permission to look at our stuff, rescues our neighbourhood. And I
come to the case of the Baton Rouge eight month pregnant woman
shot when she opens her door. Her mom says she keeps a diary
on her phone. Oh, look at the diary to figure out what might
have been going on in her life.
Oh, because we could have some resolve for her.
Who is she texting with? That's a problem. I love privacy. All
of us also love public safety. And it's so easy to talk about
by this amazing device, you'll be private. But you have to take
the time to think okay, there's that you
hear what he's saying, John, this is this is the word Apple
wants to have a complete evidence free device. Yeah, but
it's free zone. And then law enforcement does not want it.
But you have to take the time to think okay, there's that and
what are the costs of that, and that's where this collision is
coming in?
Well, I love privacy too. But I want my fellow citizens to
understand that most of us also, in varying degrees also love our
bodies and the physical integrity of our body. I love
this analogy. But since murder, the government has been able to
access orders for either blood against the will of the of the
defendant or in some instances, surgical procedures against the
will of the defendant. The defendant
has something in his anal cavity.
I've always I've always wondered why the supreme court went in
that direction because it seems and it talks about you know,
they can't I think in some places you have your DNA
extracted, but the blood thing or the even the breath test all
the rest of it. I don't see how this any of those things is not
the same as testifying against yourself. I just don't see it.
There was your your your proof. You don't have to testify
against you. You don't have to go on in front of a group. Did
you kill that person? I refused on the grounds of whatever Well,
this is what this is why he's bringing it up, obviously. But
but that you know, I don't have that because it wasn't all that
in First thing, but there were counter arguments to that. Why
that why that analogy does not play?
Well, I I also think that this is not about any of these
discussions at all. It's about marketing. Correct. We're
getting can sell a phone, it's got a backdoor in it or anything
else. Well, he's,
we still have to come up with some whack jobs scenarios where
you know, Apple is the gatekeeper and oh my god, and
how is this going to work? And this is Ted Deutsch to douche
with Comey. This is one of my favourite answers from Comey.
So they get something that Judge will sort out apples contention,
which again, I believe is made in good faith is that there
would be substantial risk around creating this software on the
government side kind of sceptical. But we could be
wrong. Because I think the government's argument is, that's
your business to protect your software, your innovation, this
would be usable in one phone,
what could possibly go wrong? How could apple? And what could
go what could have happened with Apple who can clearly do this
work? If they did, they would refuse? How could it still get
out? John? What could what could happen?
You got me.
But again, that's something the judge is gonna have to sort out
it's not an easy question.
If if it's if it's the case, though, that is usable in more
than one phone. And then it applies beyond there than the
public safety concerns that we may have that a lot of us have
about what would happen if the bad guys got access to our
phones and our children's phones. In that case? Those are
really valid, aren't they?
Sure, for sure. The question that I think we're going to have
litigation about is how reasonable is that concern? And
you know, slippery slope arguments are always attractive.
But I mean, I suppose you could say, well, apples engineers have
this in their head. What if they're kidnapped and forced to
write software? That's why the judge has to sort this out
between good lawyers on both sides making all reasonable
arguments.
Yeah, that can happen. He doesn't understand that Apple
ultimately holds the key I mean, any any device that has
automatic software updates, you know, Apple holds the key to
bloating software, but okay, it's Yeah, I think a good
kidnapped give us the key viewers, the 256 D has
encrypted key mini rock in bowling Boeing. Boris, Boris,
give us the key. Oh, man.
All right now, Comey, not to be outdone by Eisah has his own
little meme words that he wants to bring into the conversation.
As he explains the main crux of what is going on here,
you do have a reasonable expectation of privacy in your
home, in your car and in your devices. The government under
our constitution is required to overcome that by going to an
independent judge making showing of probable cause
this interesting interpretation of the Constitution. But he says
the Constitution requires to overcome that the in order to
get evidence. But the Congress, the Constitution doesn't
necessarily provide that requirement. It says here is
what you hear under only one circumstance, can you do this
perform this type of action to search. And that is when you
have probable cause. And then a warrant, you know, there's very
specific language about a warrant and what it can do. So
no, no, it's it's a word game at this point in your home,
in your car and in your devices. The government in our
constitution is required to overcome that, by going to
overcome that independent judge making showing of probable cause
and getting a warrant we need to talk about as a country is we're
moving to a place where there are warrant proof places in our
lives,
born proof places. These guys are good.
And yes, these devices are spectacular because they do hold
our whole lives, they're different than a briefcase are
different than a drawer. So it is a source with a place with a
tremendous reasonable expectation of privacy. But if
we're going to move to a place where that is not possible to
overcome that, that's a world we've never lived in before in
the United States that has profound consequences for public
safety. And all I'm saying is we shouldn't drift there. Right?
Companies that write stuff shouldn't tell us how to be the
FBI shouldn't tell us how to be the American people should say,
the world is different. How do we want to be I figure that out?
Okay. Now, it turns out that that's what everyone's there for
is to get an opinion from the public, we need to sway the
public, left or right, either. We want a warrant proof device,
with evidence Free Zones included now with evidence free
zones. Dude, we gotta get on this worn proof phone now with
evidence free zone at Best Buy.
Well, I don't know how that's different than like, for
example, putting it to 56 on a on a complete hard disk. There's
a number of ways you can encrypt the entire hard
that's an that's an evidence free zone. Right there. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, they're not talking about that. They're talking
about they're talking about mining that a hard disk, which
is an older technology has had this available to it for some
time. And nobody's bitching about that.
No, no. As we go Long you'll notice this, this whole thing is
bullcrap. As we go into now we get to Apple lawyer, Bruce
Sewell. And he uses an analogy here, which may tie into the
Second Amendment argument that we were listening to from that
tech podcast. Who said, you know, encryption is defined as a
weaponized technology. Therefore, it's an it's part of
arms and could be protected under the Second Amendment,
which I liked. Yeah, it was outstanding. And I think the
apple lawyer drops a little clue here, that that may be part of
their ultimate defence, although it didn't come up anywhere else.
In the four and a half hours, we are
moving to end to end encryption on many devices and apps, not
just Apple iPhones. Why is that happening?
I think it's a combination of things. From our perspective, at
Apple, it's because we see ourselves as being in an arms
race in an arms race with criminals, cyber terrorists,
hackers, we're trying to provide a safe and secure place for the
users of our devices, to be assured that their information
cannot be accessed cannot be hacked or stolen. So from our
perspective, that end to end encryption move is an effort to
improve the safety and security of our phones.
So he's talking about it as if it's in there in an arms race,
and these are the weapons of this war. But it didn't come up
further on. They did talk about other constitutional amendments.
I have a question.
And let's assume that that encryption, encryption back in
the Phil Zimmerman era was considered, it was considered an
arms situation, an arm something, and it was illegal to
Oh is defined as such for Intel, they define and I remember
rotations,
the era you can't export this, you can export that. There's
still a bunch of these products out there that you can export
to, even though there's good encryption coming out of
Switzerland, as there, were there we make good, okay,
correct. You can export this, you can export that. Whereas the
government puts some leverage on the Apple saying, you know,
these phones are good laced with encryption, that you can export
them. Oh, we just clamped down on that part. If you wanted to
really
do that, that could happen. It could possibly happen. I don't
know. That'd be very
well, that we like to leverage. Yeah.
And then in dude's name,
why are we so lacks?
I have not looked into the depth of the encryption the export
law. I know it got overturned that I think that was for Intel.
But um, I don't know, someone out there will know and will be
able to tell us, for sure. I mean, I think that the dude's
name Ben and Ben, other privacy expires in our producing
audience will love this next clip. But Never would I expect
to hear a representative for Apple promoting a completely
compromised product as safe
once they get in there. They could find all kinds of other
restrictions that Apple has no control over, right, with regard
to apps that are on the phone with regard to various other
communications features that the consumer may have chosen to put
on there. Is that correct?
That's absolutely right. Mr. Chairman, one of the most
pernicious apps that that we see in the terrorist space is
something called telegraph. Telegraph is an app that can
reside on any phone. It has nothing to do with Apple, it can
be loaded, either over the internet or it could be loaded
outside of the country. And this is a method of providing
absolutely unclipped uncrackable communications.
Now everybody in the security industry says this is a horrible
app. It's completely Yeah. compromised.
Yeah, we both installed it and we came to the if you're
gonna say signal, which is what all the the military guys use
when talking amongst themselves. You know?
Yeah, signals different. I don't know what it is. But maybe this
is part of a scheme
called tell Isn't it called telegram? I thought it was
telegram was a telegraph. by telegram. It'd be Telegram, I
think. But he said. He said, telegraph. I think it's
telegram. weightless. Fine. Now, let me let you look it up. And
I'll listen to him against you.
Once they get in there. They could find all kinds of other
restrictions that Apple has no control over right? Regard to
apps that are a phone with regard to various other
communications features that the consumer may have chosen to put
on there. Is that correct? That's absolutely right.
Mr. Chairman, one of the most pernicious apps or niches we see
in the terrorist space is something called telegraph.
And he says telegraph.
I think it's telegram looking. Yeah, it's telegram. Yeah, he
says telegraph. So he doesn't even have that right.
Here's their site. Software. Yeah.
I mean, void zero is the one that was all over my ass about
that, you know, void zero. We don't know his real name. But he
says he shows up so set your
Yeah, he's another one of those guys they won't hire Oh,
let me see smokes weed check on the spectrum check lanky and
somewhat awkward check, Perfect for no agenda, perfect for
any kind of security work. But
this I was just listening to this Sewell guy he's also saying
a lot of bullcrap. And
this one says he could find all kinds of other restrictions that
Apple has no control over, right, with regard to apps that
are on the phone with regard to various other communications
features that the consumer may have chosen to put on there. Is
that
correct? That's absolutely right, Mr. Chairman, one of the
most pernicious apps that that we see in the terrorist space,
terrorist space nice is something called telegraph.
Telegraph telegraph is an app that can reside on any phone. It
has nothing to do that, of
course, is crap because they can block or ban any app they want
from the app. Oh, yeah. Apple can in particular. Yeah, they
can remove it, they can remove it. So can Google they can
remove any, any any app they want. But you can sideload on
Android with Apple,
it can be loaded, either over the internet, or it could be
loaded outside of the country. So that's
a lie. Yeah, well, it's kind of a lie over the internet. But you
have total control of what apps you're allowed to instal on your
iPhone.
And this guy be up there and well saying the wrong name of
the product. Okay.
Good. We'll jump ahead and we'll wrap this up. Because this is
exactly where we need to be with this conversation. Well, I'm,
I'm now three and a half hours into this. I'm getting pissed.
But he's all I'm hearing is Why are you getting pissed because
these moronic congressmen and women. They just want to get an
education on something that they don't comprehend from people who
don't explain it. It was a complete circle jerk of
bullcrap. Really, yeah. Oh, yeah. So Sensenbrenner, who's
his old coot? What's his Sensenbrenner? I think what are
you from?
Oh, I'll look it up.
Right. Well, we scored on the telegraph versus telegram. But
that's the level of sophistication Apple sends to
the United States Congress were their conversation what is going
on? But I can tell you what's going on as I continue to stall
a bit longer to see if you come up with send some runners name
and district and state
is Jim Sensenbrenner is a member of the Republican Party A is
representing Wisconsin's fifth anatomy really feel that time at
work perfectly good work. Okay, this is what nice Republican
blowhard I've seen him before. I don't like this guy. Well,
he nailed it on this one. And this segment and the final one
is 30 seconds. showed me that this is a delay tactic. This is
setup to delay. That is my well I'll give you my belief after
these two clips. By the
way to say you have this thing open. His net worth is $21
million.
Yeah, well, yeah. What are you eating? Oh, I'm sorry. A
lozenge?
What kind of cherry you know, I don't like to cough?
Is it a cherry flavour? No, it's
actually a the original flavour. Was that thing? Sue? Correct.
No, no,
I'm Sue Kretzmann. I love secrets.
It's noise. I can't remember the name through the little Paco.
Here it is. It's like a NOR is your what sales of this stuff?
It's like it comes in little wrapper.
Ricola Rico? Yeah,
the original Ricola. The original. Not that Valerie Cole.
And you know, the other ones is the original original in the
yellow package. Fantastic product.
Onward. This is a delay tactic. But as you'll hear what is going
on? Because Sensenbrenner finally asked the appropriate
question,
we wouldn't be forced to do the very thing which we think is an
issue and shouldn't be decided by the American people we'd be
forced to create.
Now, what's your proposed legislative response? Do you
have a bill for us to consider?
I do not have a bill for you to
Okay. Thank you that answers that. Now, the FBI has provided
some fairly specific policy proposals to ensure that law
enforcement can access encrypted data with a warm what policy
proposal? Would Apple support? You don't like what the FBI
said? What's your specific response?
What we're asking for Congress, Congressman, is a debate on
this. I don't have a proposal. I don't have a solution for it.
But what I think we need to do is to give this an appropriate
and fair hearing at this body which exists to convene and
deliberate and decide issues of legislative importance. We think
that the problem here is We need to get the right stakeholders in
the room. This is not a security versus privacy issue. This is a
security versus security issue. And that balance should be
struck, we think by the Congress.
Well, you know, let me make this observation, you know, having
dealt with the fallout of the Snowden revelations in the
drafting and garnering support of USA Freedom Act, I can tell
you, I don't think you're gonna like what comes out of Congress.
Congress, we will follow the law that comes out of this process.
We certainly understand.
Okay. Okay. Well, the thing is, is I don't understand you don't
like what's being done with a lawfully issued warrant? you're
operating in a vacuum. You've told us what you don't like you
said that Congress ought to debate and pass legislation. You
haven't told us one thing about what you do, like, when are we
going to hear what you do like so that Apple has a positive
solution to what you are complaining about? You said it's
Congress's job to do it. Now. We won't shirk from that this
hearing. You know, as a part of this debate, the FBI has
provided some policy suggestions on that. You haven't said what
Apple will support. So all you've been doing is saying no,
no, no, no.
That's correct. So they are they're just wasting Congress's
time.
I think Sensenbrenner is right on the money. Yeah. And then the
thing that caught me about what he said, so I've changed my
attitude toward him. Instantly. What you're allowed, you're
allowed or you got me portion,
kind of which I think is overlooked here. Right off the
bat. He asked, Do you have a bill? Yeah. Or anything? Have
you written anything that we can like him? You know,
and let us let us be let his level here, John. The only
reason anyone's ever in Washington is to lobby for a
bill. Yes. You've got like people up there ready to listen
to you. You're in
the thing you got to get in the catbird. Seat. He asked him Do
you have a bill for us? For us to consider maybe work on
because this would because you're the ones that have the
problem? Give us a bill we'll look at and see what's going on.
Because that's what you're always here to promote? They got
nothing. Nothing. He wants to debate. He wants a discussion.
Let's conversations and incident night. Yeah. The Anders the bill
apple. So this
is in my opinion, this is a this is a delay tactic. Well, it can
be one of two things, either a apple who are of course, well
known to be years ahead with their product line. They have
the warrant free evidence free zone device ready to go and they
are worried about the launching and what implications that could
be because that will be their marketing is this is the warrant
free evidence free warrant proof evidence free zone phone, oh,
evidence free zone phone by M? M regular Kanye? Or, or they want
to delay this as long as possible until they actually do
launch the phone. That all depends on maybe, but they this
is just this. This is running around in circles. No one wants
anything. But what do you really want
it to do a job on this? It from a marketing perspective? I'd say
this. Do you know the way they should do this? You got the
evidence free phones, the iPhone seven iPhone eight, we don't
know. But you're right. They're out and they're already out
about a year or two. And they take this they say okay, well
here's how you can crack the five. This is not good. We don't
know what to do. We've got the five is now it takes the five
off this is the five is crackable. We can't continue
like this we'll have default the iPhone seven is not possible to
get into it under any circumstances. Right? Right. And
that would be a whole marketing scheme. Starting with the five
cracking the five they should cooperate. Crack the five and
say, This is the problem. Don't buy a five. Sell your fives get
out of the fives get
upgrade skipped. Got to get a seven man I'm talking a quarter
like you've never seen before. That would be dynamite. They
would kill the whole market.
Yeah. Because you can't trust any other phone. But that
doesn't seem to be what they're doing. Well, they lost their
touch. Well, this seems to be like a marketing opportunity.
This is
my problem. This guy who doesn't even know the difference between
telegraph and telegram so he's not reading properly and even no
matter what he calls it that's a well known compromised app. But
he was we even know it. You know that that's like, oh, you in
cahoots with everybody but a law enforcement call me said two
things he said we bought We cannot have something that
pretty much violates our constitutional requirement to go
and find documents when we have a warrant or proper order from
the court. But he also said, Hey, American people, what do
you want it to be? Do you want to be, you know, have your Do
you want to trust your government to open up your phone
when necessary when you know, when you've been killed, and
everyone wants to know who shot you? Or when your kid is
missing? And you know, maybe can find some location data? Nothing
about terrorism that he said? Or do you want to know your
warrant? Proof evidence free zone phone? Now, he's there to
promote the fact that you don't want that because think of the
children. But Apple, on the other hand, just seems to just
be I mean, Sue will, but he's a cheaper guy than the Olsen guy.
But I think that just you know, you go, you go just run around
for a bit and don't answer anything, just start a
conversation.
No, I'm saying, well, it's just
anyway, so they wore him down, the guy got tired, the lawyer,
then we finally got to the bottom of the Defence they will
be using against any type of law, court order, etc. And it's
it's two amendments. Do you want a gander? I guess, which two
amendments are at play here, according to the Apple defence,
I wouldn't have a clue.
And bear in mind that what we're being asked to do is to write a
brand new computer code, write a new operating system, the law
with respect to the applicability of computer code
to speech, I think is well established. So this is a
compelled speech by the government, for the purpose of
the government has a First Amendment problem, which is
absolutely First Amendment problem and bear in mind that
this speech, which Apple does not want to make, this is our
position on.
I like that. It's funny. Yeah,
we don't want to make that speech. Well, it's interesting,
why is a computer code patented and not copyrighted, then if
it's speech, can you patent speech? Should
I know why it used to be copyrighted? And then somebody
said, I remember in the days in the eight eras, 70s and early
80s, when everyone said, you know, Pat, you can't patent
software, you can copyright it. And copywriting is fine. But
people discovered that because of the nature of a patent, that
they kept trying to get a patent. And when that one guy
that worked in the Clinton administration, who I actually
heard debate, I think he was debating Larry Lessig, or some I
don't remember was the Commonwealth Club. I happen to
be the moderator. But this guy, this maniac that took over the
patent office said, Yes, fine. patent it. And so it started
this software patent revolution, and it has ruined the country.
And this guy was such a maniac. I asked him specifically myself.
I said,
Why did you do that, bro? Sorry. You said, Hey, bro stuff. Why
did you do that?
I know, I asked him, of course, I said, the way he sees
copyright. I said, Is it possible or patents? I said, Is
it possible to patent a football play? Oh, yeah. Which I thought
was a good question. He says, Well, the patents have to have
some technological basis. And so they followed up with what if it
was a play based on timing? Yeah. He says, Yeah, timing.
Yeah, it's patentable. Great.
I said, what that was that as far as I was concerned, this guy
was nuts.
The wishbone formation now trademarked by John C. Dvorak,
patented, patented patent you can run it no one else can run
the play no wishbone for you. He can sue them. That's my one.
It's a one play. I know, the wishbone formation, the
wishbone.
From the 60s. I'm impressed by knowledge of football. Yeah,
very modern. They're pulling a wishbone everybody pulling your
wishbone means something else okay. Although
a just want to write that down for myself. Then the final
amendment. These are these are their defences. This is what
they will take to the Supreme Court if necessary, but they
don't want that they want big grandstanding and marketing in
Congress speech
by the government for the purpose of the government has a
First Amendment problem which is absolutely First Amendment
problem and bear in mind that this is speech which Apple does
not want to make. This is our position. On the Fifth
Amendment. The issue is conscription. The issue is
forced. Forced activity forced labour. There you go.
conscription, force activity, forced labour
force, though it is forced labour. But this is not to the
arguments,
but they wouldn't do that under the Fifth Amendment. Because
there's lots of people who are first second or first I mean,
there's, there's cases where you know, tonnes of judges have
ordered people to give up information, forcing them to
scale talk God via visit making no talk. You bring back
waterboarding, are you We'll find out. I'm sorry, there's my
Trump impression.
Boy, that's bad. I know.
Do you want to take a break now? I'll take any feedback on my
little, my little segment there, my little panel.
That was a great segment and we learned a lot. Just like I said
in the newsletter, yeah, there was no big huge bomb. It was a
bomb. There was a bomb.
I'm gonna show my school by Jonah did no agenda. Imagine all
the people who could do that? Oh, yeah, that'd be fun
for you do anything, John. Go to evidence free zone.com Did you
get it? Someone in the chat room? Got it for us.
They grabbed it. Good. Yeah. Thanks to the no agenda show.
Of course it does. That is why we are Joan Jett, John. There
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sorry. And we have a title change today. Dame Francine, the
big longtime supporter of the podcast and becomes a bearer
nests. Although she she said on the face Maggie was she said on
the face bag. She wanted to be a baron. Was fun because he would
do that you see all the other face baggers trying to
understand what what the hell she's talking about. No one
understands except for the no agenda people.
Face beggars. So we are using our Xander Joe. Yes,
yes. I remember to Insightly that meeting. We had a meeting
and said, let's call them face baggers. That's funnier.
Yes. Perfect.
As good. Good work. Um, well, I just I got stuff. But I just did
a long segment. So but like,
well, let's go with this talk about this. The crisis is
continuing. Of course, in the EU. You wonder what you
mean by this, but that?
Yes. Let's listen to what Samantha Powers has to say about
this question that she got from Judy Woodruff on the News Hour
from the Middle East. We've been telling their story day after
day. As you know, the top US General at NATO. Philip general
Philip Breedlove said the other day, that he believes that ISIS
is now spreading in his words like a cancer among these
refugees. Is that your understanding of what's going on
now? Well,
I mean, I think, certainly we have seen, you know, ISIS in
turning up in European cities. I mean, we've seen the Paris
attacks. There's a lot of homegrown extremism, people who
are first generation who have been born in European countries
who have taken to extremism, I think what's important is that
the systems that we have to process people, most of whom the
vast, vast, vast majority of whom are just in desperate need
of refuge, that the systems we have are sufficient to actually
being able be able to run fingerprint checks, you know,
look into backgrounds and so forth. And that's the great
disadvantage of this flood is it's been much harder for Europe
to manage them, for instance, our programme, we're we're able
to actually deliberate over these refugee files for 1818
months to make sure we get it right.
Man who gives a crap these people are being are dying,
vast, vast, vast, she says, Can I do a little insert a little
clip here? Yes. This is from the EU Council President Donald Tusk
of Poland. He is he's very clear on where the EU stands on
migrants European Council
President Donald Tusk has warns potential migrants not to risk
coming to Europe. Speaking after talks with the Greek Prime
Minister Alexis Tsipras Tusk said unilateral actions by EU
member states is hurting solidarity and must stop
I wants to appeal to all potential illegal economic
migrants wherever you are from do not come to Europe
that's Clip of the Day
oh thank you it's not even over yet. It's raining just ended
there wait I mean I get I saw that
hold on a second. Do not do not come to Europe
wherever you are from do not come to Europe that's a great
ISO
from okay but keep it right there. That's fabulous. All
right.
The only Iso I collected I was gonna put in the clip blitz but
I'm gonna give it to you now. Is the Clinton history books ISO?
Oh, yeah.
I saw a picture of this yesterday was one for the
history book. Three books. Yeah, history books. Oh, hello. Put
that in the montage bucket here. Oops. And I get the right okay.
All right. Well, let's go
let me buy him on. Okay, I have more I have more short shortened
funnies. Okay, play him shorten funnies I migrant Okay, well,
the Britain and France. So Britain is talking about the
Brexit leaving the European Union and France is very clear
what will happen if they do that France has
warned Britain that it will let 1000s of migrants head to its
shores if the country opts to leave the EU.
Take that you lie me as we're sending all these stinkers.
You're away. right through the channel.
In an interview with The Financial Times French economy
minister Emmanuel Macron said a Brexit would affect a deal which
allows Britain to maintain border controls in France. His
view echoes recent comments by British Prime Minister David
Cameron that a migrant camp in Cali, known as the jungle could
move to southern England if Britain leaves the EU. 1000s of
migrants fleeing war and poverty have converged on the French
port over the past year, bounce with Cameron meeting French
President Francois alarmed for security and migration talks
today. Opponents of EU membership say macrons comments
are part of a carefully orchestrated campaign to scare
British voters.
You
know what they saying by the way that I've got a clip for the
jungle tear down apparently they're tearing that thing down.
Yeah,
there's video of it everywhere.
But so what the guy is saying is that if the British leave the
EU, they're gonna pack a train full of yes guess cargo cars or
something, fill them up with these five or 10,000 of these
guys, everybody
on the train everybody on the train on the train, not
necessarily good idea coming from the Europe should be here
and then before anyone can do anything, they open up all the
cargo doors and run.
The train thing reminds me of another clip that I picked
up on the site of former Nazi concentration camp Dachau,
outbuildings that used to belong to the complex herb garden and
now being used to house refugees. It's a place of fear
and death. Children can now be seen playing in those sites
where inmates were forced to spend hours toiling in the cold
and rain
everybody on the train to dock owl. Man is this is that this
should be a subject of such outrage.
It shouldn't be but nobody's outraged. Outraged by Trump.
Yeah. There's here's one Germans. The Germans are worried
sick about Trump. here's the here's from the Deutsche Vela.
This, the Germans are thinking about Trump. How would
the German government feel about seeing Donald Trump as the next
US President? Well, on a visit to Washington, Germany's Foreign
Minister Frank Walter Steinmeier indirectly criticise the
Republican front runner stance on migration, and what he called
the politics of fear. Trump himself has taken aim at
Berlin's policies in his campaign, leaving many to wonder
how relations between the two countries would change if indeed
he ends up winning.
Peaceful and in recent years friendly once again could
describe the mood between the US Secretary of State and Germany's
foreign minister and transatlantic relations overall.
But now German policymakers feel this friendship is at risk. And
all because of this man, Donald Trump. It's unlikely he'll ever
be a close friend of Germany to him. Crazy country that takes in
refugees.
We're not letting the Syrians come into our country have no
idea who they were. They could be ISIS, who look at what's
happened with Germany. Look at what's happened to Sweden. Look
at what's happened to Brussels. It's not gonna happen to our
country.
This shrill tone is worrying Germany's otherwise sedate
foreign policymakers. Donald Trump is US president is
something that the German Foreign Minister didn't want to
directly comment on in Washington. Instead, he had
these words to say to a group of students in Germany and in
Europe, something is gaining momentum in our domestic
politics. And to be honest, I'm also seeing it here in the
United States during the primary campaigns. It's the politics of
fear. It's dangerous for Europe in the US, it's bad for the
world. And in the end, it will also be bad for our
transatlantic relations. leading Democrat candidate Hillary
Clinton at least has the advantage of being predictable
from the foreign ministers point of view. They've known each
other since her days as Secretary of State. The German
government views Clinton as a far better choice than Trump
I'm glad you played that clip for it what it accentuates that
all the opposition to the elitist the people who want the
multicultural society and everything to be kumbaya Yeah,
we're all you know been in a way we're all we don't see colour
are all in the grey world whatever. That yeah, they all
are accused of the same thing by the established elite. They're
Nazis. They're far right. They're racist. They xenophobes
bigots, nut jobs, whack jobs, religious crazies, all the
things that the established elite, which is a socialist
concept of we're all happy no, you're all grey. I grew up in a
socialist country you grey that's why the Russian Bittrex
the government everything grey, everything's grey thing.
That's great. Say that, because I was doing I got this little
thing going on on Twitter, where I do the Forgotten cars. Yeah, I
liked that a lot. A lot of people seem to like and so I'm
continuing it and one of the things I noticed I will say
there's even an I say possibly in this about the grey thing
which you just said, I'm looking at these cars and is especially
in the 1950s. After World War Two, these cars are colourful
and is brought to mind because I did one car that was an old
Willie's, or a Rio or something. And it was, it was yellow. It's
a yellow car crazy. They had two tone cars, three tone cars that
were just astonishing looking by today's standards that were pink
and black. And all these different code pink, black and
white is one of the colour schemes on a Dodge, roll these
and then all
of a sudden red and white on the Corvette red stripe going
toward the 80s. And then nine, the cars all become grey. If I
look at the freeway, the car and watch the cars go by there's
kind of a light beige, white, white grey.
These cars also priced lower the bay, the grey cars with just a
lower price do incentivize people to enter their life of
grilling. I used to
have these things called stripped down models. And those
are always the cheap cars but No, there wasn't. I mean, you
could still get a car any colour you wanted. But there was a huge
variety as long as it's
great. Sorry, any car you want, as long as it's great.
Well, nowadays I'm looking there's grey, a grey, white,
black, black, white. This is the three colours I see. There's a
light beige, I'm looking at the freeway, there's a light beige,
there's white, there's grey, there's black car, everyone's
well white, white, white, grey, grey grey, and there goes the
stocks. There's not a I won't I have not seen a yellow even a
blue car go by. I mean, the blue is like Whoa, what a wild car.
Yeah, well, that seems to be a reflection of this. Yes, yes. It
seems to be what people are trained to do just see
everything grey.
Everybody's grey.
Yeah, well, I like the colours. I like all the colourful people
with the invalid. Those are my favourite.
Anyway, can I'm still looking out there for a blue or a red
car announcing one How about the Zephyr or yellow? Zephyr? Zephyr
is long gone. Are you gonna do clip blitz little short ones.
Hold on a second you want to do? Yeah, we can do that. Everybody
good. All right, John. What's up clip let's bring up Bill
O'Reilly
dragging wife
Bill O'Reilly dragging wife E I E I O.
Fox News host Bill O'Reilly has lost residential custody of his
two teenage children following a lengthy custody battle, during
which his 17 year old daughter told a forensic examiner that
she watched O'Reilly dragging her mother down a staircase by
her neck. Although the New York appeals court ruled O'Reilly's
two children should live solely with their mother Maureen MC
filmi O'Reilly still maintain shared legal custody over them
all right, clip Blitz, clip Blitz, clip Blitz,
Bill Clinton G.
We're excited to listen known beforehand,
very affected by the fascist attempt to take over and Spain
so I bought the army, then I didn't know how to get to Spain
Till one day or going to work and
what is the I'm sorry, I thought that was Bill Clinton. That
wasn't that was an error. Concord too. And this is a good
one, John.
Well, supersonic air travel could soon be on course for a
comeback. flying faster than the speed of sound is something that
Concorde jet made possible until it was taken out of service 13
years ago, but now NASA has awarded a $20 million contract
to American defence contractor Lockheed Martin to develop a new
supersonic aircraft. The plane is to have a passenger the plan
rather is to have a passenger plane ready for takeoff by the
year 2020. Will some conditions have already been set? The
supersonic plane will have to be more fuel efficient, and a whole
lot lighter than the good old Concorde.
Mr. B green, green Concorde. This is where I get to tell my
Concorde trivia because we never talked about the Concorde at
one. The Concorde after crashed in Germany with a German company
that had leased it out for a party bad day, a real day
wrecker that was did receive a airworthiness certificate and
was scheduled to make its maiden voyage re entering into the
aviation world on what date?
September 11.
You nailed it. That's right. September 11 2001. You go and I
flew on the Concorde a couple times.
Yeah. Well, I'm going to plan this next one. Yeah. Anwar, with
clip blitz route through the Google car. Yeah, I heard about
this one.
Well, meanwhile, Google says one of its self driving cars has hit
a bus, the accident in the city of Mountain View.
I love that one. There was going two miles an hour. But still, it
proves that it made an unwise decision based upon the science
and the algorithm, which I just call skip logic. Yeah, and this
isn't this is all anti anti Google self driving car.
I think so I think this is the beginning. We're gonna see a
bunch of this. Here's, here's a story. Nobody's played up at
all. And I think it's important. This is the Iraq update. Damn.
In Iraq, US officials are warning the country's largest
dam is facing a, quote, unprecedented risk of
catastrophic failure. The US Embassy warns if the Mosul Dam
collapses, hundreds of 1000s of people would be at risk of
drowning and more than a million people would be displaced.
Meanwhile, a spate of deadly suicide bombings by ISIL in Iraq
have killed more than 130 people over the last few days.
Now, I've seen this I've seen this crop up. I've seen this
destroy and wrap up. Yeah, but I talked about this on the show a
while ago that when Mosul Dam was also in play, oh, if they
blow that up, then all these people downstream will die and
this is bringing this back for some reason.
Let me finish clip Blitz. Story and that is a Bay Area story
cop. This cop fights prisoners
formal charges have been filed against two San Francisco
sheriff's deputies and a former deputy. They're all accused of
forcing jail inmates to fight each other for entertainment. In
a gladiator style fight Claude cage views Henry San Francisco's
District Attorney detailed the charges during a news conference
today
for the San Francisco District Attorney George cascone says the
deputies force county jail inmates Ricardo Garcia and
Stanley Harris, who is much bigger than Garcia to fight each
other at least twice in the jail on Bryan street. Then deputy
Scott new allegedly told the two inmates that if they didn't
fight each other, he'd handcuffed them mace or tase
them, beat them or send them to a different jail
this crime severely undermine the moral authority of the
honest hardworking deputies that work hard day in and day out. To
protect this
public defender Jeff Adachi helped bring the allegations to
light.
We call this sort of a Game of Thrones gladiator fight. Boy, oh
boy, boy,
this is your police. Yeah, gosh,
board. prison guards.
Yeah. Well, John, thank you very much. That was I have to say a
very, very good thing, go boom, boom. Boom. That's right,
everybody. And that should wrap it up, John. I think so. I think
it wraps it up for me. Outstanding. Well, I have what I
had, we didn't get oh, I have mh 17 mh 370 News. And I'll, I'll
have it all on Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. I just want to tease
that. It is not a coincidence. They find a proper possible
piece of MH 370 On the same day, that there's a big brouhaha in
Dutch parliament about lack of government disclosure on the MH
17 over Ukraine that they don't even have never even looked at
the radar images the US has and this is turned this will turn
into something big. And I'll have the report for you on
Sunday.
Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, so I look forward to it.
Okay. All right. I met the mayor of Austin last night should talk
about Sunday as
nails she she he Yeah, he kind of a guy.
Yeah. Nice guy. Bad suit. Bad so bad, sir. i Everybody come in
and remember us for Sunday, right here. And coming to you
from the skyscraper in downtown Austin Tejas, the crackpot condo
in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where it looks like we're gonna
start getting rain again, even though we had a lot of really
great weather for the last two weeks, but looks like rains
coming. Even though this probably going to be mild. So
much for this bullcrap. El Nino I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on no agenda.
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