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So how can you cite no proof?
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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Thursday, February 25 2016. And
time once again via get no

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nation media assassination
episode 802

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This is no agenda.

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We are your oasis in a sea of
media malarkey and broadcasting

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live from the capital of the
drone stars day in Austin chaos.

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six in the morning, everybody. I
am Adam curry,

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and from Northern Silicon
Valley. Without further ado, I'm

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John C. Dvorak.

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hill where the C stands for.

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First comes to mind, I can't say

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we got to be on time today,
John, we gotta move it along.

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Gotta move the show along moving
along. Do

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they gotta get out here on time
leaving today? Right after the

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show. I gotta go pick up the air
stream of consciousness.

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And then because they close,
it's sick. So I got this. It

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gives you I'm done until like
three o'clock.

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Okay, it gives you three

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if we're lucky, if we're lucky
if we have. We have no technical

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problems. And then I got to
drive down to Buda and of course

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it's prime traffic and
everything anyway,

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so first, right you have a
traffic. You're in this

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Thursday, which is you have a
commute. Yeah. So

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it's about a nine hour drive to
Fayetteville, our Kansas. That

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sounds like fun. Yeah. So we're
gonna stay overnight. The north

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of Dallas,

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about halfway Zephyr.

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You know, it occurs to me that
the Zephyrs on the schedule

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has was was early today's 914
Juicy hits around 916. All

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right, yes. Schedule. Just

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after eight years, it occurred
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maybe. Maybe it was funny

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about it is every once in a
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passenger trains come by, and
they'll be like, does everyone

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go by and you see it, and you
look over there is going like

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three miles an hour. Yeah, for
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Somehow Zephyr doesn't sound
right. If it's going three miles

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an hour doesn't sound like the
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and day's effort.

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I'd like to start in the euro.
Zephyr is by the way. Do I know

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what a Zephyr is? Yeah, it's
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It's a wind storm of a certain
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Nevada.

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Right but that it is. It's kind
of like the names that are used

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on RVs and trailers Scorpion

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adventures out back. Zephyr
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dental floss,

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and we got we got big crap
happening over there in the Euro

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lands.

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I think I have a few clips to
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kick it off. We in the ever the
never ending conversations in

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the EU in Starfleet Command
about what are we going to do

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with these migrants? Well, we
should have quotas. You have

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some we have some well, maybe
we'll just have a coalition of

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the willing of some Eurozone
countries who will take migrants

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and the bottom line. There is no
solution and now of all things

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Greece is getting shafted again.
First let's get an update on my

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clips are about the same exact
thing. Well, let's get a kick in

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here

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made fresh fears that the EU
survival could be threatened by

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Europe's worst migration crisis
since World War Two. The bloc's

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interior ministers are meeting
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just as split as ever though
with Austria, the country behind

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the warning, prompting criticism
as it pursues border

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restrictions to stem the influx
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having decided to send ships to
the A GNC to tackle criminal

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networks smuggling refugees into
Europe. NATO says it's playing

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its part in addressing this
humanitarian tragedy. The

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Alliance has agreed to plan for
its operations that will

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overcome territorial
sensitivities between Greece and

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Turkey. But as deals are made
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migrants and refugees keep
coming. Some 100,000 have

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already arrived this year, with
many more expected in the

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summer.

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What is happening is the
countries around Greece are

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closing their borders. So that
the refugees come in, and then

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they can't go anywhere. They're
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no problems to start with. And
here is a quick report on the

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response and how Tsipras is
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With micro numbers stacking up
in Greece. There's tough talk

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from Prime Minister Alexis de
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future European Union
agreements. If member states

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don't do more to share the
burden of the crisis. Migrants

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are now getting trapped in
Greece because of tougher border

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checks elsewhere. What we refuse
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transformation of our country
into a permanent warehouse of

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saw feels the same time continue
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and at Summit. As if there's
nothing wrong. No,

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there's nothing wrong permanent
is a prayer house

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of souls.

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Yeah, this is this really who
needs a Brexit? Britain doesn't

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need to get out of the out of
the EU. Just wait until it falls

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apart and walk away. Just back

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up. What's gonna happen? Well,
let me i My, my I got my

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material from Deutsche Vela. So
we have you've been liking

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Deutsche Avella a lot lately.
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good, good. And it is because
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and they seem fairly objective,
but they don't get that give the

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needle to their own country so
much. But this all stemmed is

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the crisis stem with the
Macedonia stopping the border,

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closing border closing, closing
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main thing seems to be this
Austrian meeting. What happened

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was Austria decided to do they
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decided everything and then a
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Little group took off from the
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own coalition of the unwilling I
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and this will be the clip here
is refugee crisis splitting

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Europe.

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I'm Brent Goff. It's good to
have you with us new signs

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tonight that the massive influx
of refugees is splitting Europe.

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Today Vienna hosted a summit of
Balkan leaders, the EU,

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especially Greece are outraged
that they were not invited to

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take part. Hungary's prime
minister has called for a

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referendum on whether to accept
European Union mandates for the

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resettlement of refugees and
everywhere. Borders and barriers

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are being erected where once
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Keep out. That is Hungary's
message to migrants. It was the

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first country to seal off its
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girls not allowed.

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But now, other countries have
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Balkan route towards NorthWest
Europe, movement is grinding to

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a halt. 700 migrants are
stranded after Macedonia

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suspended its train services
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palpable. It's crazy is about
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a second. Yeah. This looks like
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I was gonna say it's the first
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actually want to get on the
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Yeah. So there's this huge
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cars like the Zephyr? It Well,
it's not quite like this. So

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it's a little beat up. And it's
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with these guys. And they just
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is going by

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just sitting in that train
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moving. Yeah, oh, gosh,

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you're sitting in there living
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a huge train. And they're all
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Macedonians or whoever is
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of the line. They just refuse to
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there's so it's turning into
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it's actually quite a funny
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yes, we also we also toy cars.
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from this area to their four
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800 kilometres further south,
the effect of the gridlock has

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been felt. Greece is the entry
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fleeing war and poverty in the
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many, that journey has stalled
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is filling up. And so our
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big cities. With more refugees
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Nations is calling for an urgent
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What we have been urging for a
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order to deal with the refugee
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only Greek problem, so all
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this in a common way

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that European countries remain
divided over how to tackle the

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migrant influx. A mandatory
quota system remains disputed.

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Until a solution is found the
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Greece is warning of a
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Now, the only problem I will say
the only problem I have with

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Deutsche Vela is that they have
to have everybody speaking in

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English insists the Americans.

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You're your own news does that
too. They can't

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find anyone who can actually
speak English. So it's actually

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very funny you often well, so
onward back to net taking it

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back down to Greece. They did
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Greek mass Cydonia and border a
Greek and they brought up some

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of these issues you brought up
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be the Greek Macedonian clip.

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Well, hard to say for the
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surprised by what is happening
today in what happened in in

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Austria, where Austria hosted a
conference on the refugee crisis

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without inviting Greece and also
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the European Union. Greek
Foreign Minister codes, yar

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spoke author and unfriendly act
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has even said that this is
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can be that European leaders
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policy for tackling solving the
refugee crisis. And just a few

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days after that, some ministers
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decide that this agreement is
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And young, as you know, we have
talked many times about other

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types of crises in Greece. Do
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crisis? And is Greece tonight?
on its own? Is it alone in this

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crisis?

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Well, of course, it is a big
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whether the financial crisis and
the refugee crisis are somehow

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linked. But I believe that after
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especially northern Greece, many
people, many Greeks will wonder

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whether European agreements are
still valid. And this may have

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an impact on the financial
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Man that is rancid. Is the word
rancid. So if the way I see it

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the way I see it targeted, well,
let's let's solve the problem.

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hey, borders off the top of
Greece, so they have to sort

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those matrices build up. Yeah,
and take over the place. Yeah,

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that's a good one.

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They're gonna be late with their
payments from now on.

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It's unbelievable. They should
just call Donald Trump build a

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wall up there on the border of
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There still be clogged in Greece
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Prop. That's

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the whole point. They're not
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It's like the roach motel of
migrants. They get in they never

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get please, class. Yes.

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they're still just I laugh, but
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nice, but that you would
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degrees.

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This isn't so not

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feel bad about this.

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And we're laughing because it's
just so ridiculous. ranting

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because we're

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crying inside. Yeah. Okay. So
the Brexit thing comes up, of

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course, because this is still in
play. And they're trying to this

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is like a distraction to the
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This is the British Euro exit,
just for people who don't know

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the Brexit.

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The Brits are going to have an
election. I guess it's about

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eight weeks. Yeah, they're going
to have an election or a

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referendum to whether or not
they should stay or leave the

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EU. Yeah. And personally, I
don't see what the benefit of

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the EU is to the Brits. I think
it's just a pain in the ass. But

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everybody's convinced that
Britain can't live without the

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EU suddenly, even though they
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Yeah, that's without this
relationship, but now they can't

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do it. And so I so there's this
clip again on Deutsche Vela,

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which of course is would be
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doin Chevelle as a propaganda
tool is a lot more subtle than

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art networks, because they

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also get to use the inflection
of the German accent. So we talk

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a little bit like this. And you
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Actually, most of the most of
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perfect, British either. They're
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perfect fake accent. Yeah, so
let's play this one. This is the

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only one this is worth playing.
This is the Brexit clip, which

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has a bunch of miscellaneous EU
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yammering about why they Richard
stay and what this is all about.

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From their perspective.

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It's referendum season, and the
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of EU parliamentarians has
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would have economic consequences
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That's also the reason that the
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their cousins in Great Britain,
don't go out what are you doing?

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We're gonna not make a trade
deal with you alone. I want to

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hop in I want to hop in what is
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have been but first, whoever
this bonehead is, and you can do

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his voice, apparently. Yes, I
think so. What did he say? What

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is his name? I thought his name
was some peers some law firm. It

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didn't say

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that's if now he's from him.
Hold on, would you allow this

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man man? Oh my god, I'm backing
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little Sunday before you go into
your bed. I just want to get let

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me say a couple of things that
he said that his point is

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following okay. And by the way,
I want you to tell me if you've

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ever heard this because I sure
haven't. But he claims that the

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United States has been shaking
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thinking about leaving the EU
telling Britain Why are you

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doing this? Because just yours
you've got such a good thing

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going What do you stay stays he
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Americans man they got these
crazy ideas first day and link

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to an actor or a game like a
president now to get this crazy

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guy here. Let the show guy

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from Israel. Now what

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does he do is ditch douche is

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a little bit like Yiddish, you
parliamentarians has warned

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against a Brexit, which would
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the British as well. He's my

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brother. That's also the reason
that the Americans have already

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said to their cousins in Great
Britain like it like he thinks

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it's so funny. Don't go out what
do you do, don't go out what

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you're doing, go go out, stand
out, you play something, we're

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gonna not make a trade. You're
gonna make a trade you stay in,

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don't go to the out of the
Brexit mess with you alone.

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I'm mostly worried about the
dismantling of social rights.

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But the deal had to happen.
These ideas most design,

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I think the show title is don't
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don't leave the EU don't go out.

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These British EU politicians
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group of Euroskeptics. In the
EU. Yes, with the referendum on

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their heels. They are now the
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for Europe.

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This message keeps on going on
about how bad things are in

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Europe, how it doesn't work.
Actually, the fact is, it is

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those 500 million people are
still the world's largest still

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the world's wealthiest
marketplace bigger than the

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Europe, the United States of
America. Are you telling me the

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United Kingdom would want to
leave that and stand on the

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outside? That would be madness.

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In the end, Britain deal might
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together than ever before.

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The only thing that can be of
interest to Britain at this

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point and the EU. Is banking.
The New York former New York

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banker? Yes. Who lives here in
Austin. Yeah. He says that every

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single one of his old Deutsche
Bank colleagues is starting

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their own bank. And they're all
doing it in London. City of

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London. Obviously the City

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of London is I don't have a clip
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other discussion and it always
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city of London. The real fear is
that they that the EU loses the

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City of London. That's their
that is the jewel. Yeah,

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exactly. That's the crown jewel
City of London. Yep, that's

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where it all is. It's got us on
the whole thing, the little

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bitty enclave and there's some
where Faraj hangs out.

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And there's some obvious
benefit, otherwise, all these

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guys wouldn't be doing that. And
these are former traders in

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disguise who could not make
money in American banking

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anymore. And so they're all over
there in the City of London

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setting up banks, I presume
investment banks, which could

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just be who knows what kind of
bank? No, no, but it's all city

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of London, which has its own
rules and is not necessarily

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beholden to the laws of Britain
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That seems to be what this is
really about. Even the right is

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discussing that specifically,
right? They just talking about

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the bail, you know, why would
they do by the way you noticed

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in that clip that the beautiful
setup here, they showed three of

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the ministers from the UK and
they said these are the Euro

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sceptics and then they come on
with just the opposite message.

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Yeah, this is yeah,

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we want to know exactly where
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in other words you're setting it
is a great way to set this up.

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If you want to do a little
propaganda analysis. You say

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here's the guy's most likely to
be against the whole thing. What

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do they think? And then you
throw a mic on him and they all

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think we should stay because
we'd be it'd be madness to

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leave. What Why would it be
madness to leave? The

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Switzerland by the way is not in
the EU and they're doing just

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fine. I don't know why. I don't
know why. We're always doing

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fine.

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I do not know why it would be
madness unless all these guys

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are somehow connected to
banking. That's all I can think

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of. It's not for the food. For
reals although it's gotten

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pretty cheap over the A it's got
what is it? Uh, the pound is

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lower. Low again

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down to a buck 39 Like Buck 37
Doom. Yes, this is the pound has

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been crashing because of this
only because of this Brexit. I

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think the pound will stay low.
Not a bad time to do that.

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pubcrawl

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I heard I heard you and Horowitz
talking about The no agenda DH

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unplugged pub crawl in London.
Yeah, I'm all in.

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Well, everybody seems to be nice
with the chair, but to set up a

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website, we have if we're going
to do that it has to be done.

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We'll get my buddy Michel, who
owns clubs will have opened up

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the club for us.

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It has to be done before the
Brexit vote. Oh, yes. Because

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the pound will be depressed.
Yeah. That cheap.

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Well, Tina, the keeper and I are
going to Europe last week of

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April, 1 week of May. So if you
want to join us,

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and might be able to swing by,
on your way to Bora Bora.

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Iceland air has a number of
deals that they're

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okay. You fly via Greenland and
don't

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like to live there. Very cool.

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They have to stop in Greenland
to get more coal, I think.

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So they stop and Reiki they can
give you a couple hours to do

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some shopping at the wool shop
at the airport. That's my

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recommendation. Passing through.

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You've mentioned this many years
ago how dynamite the shopping is

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at the Reykjavik airport.

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Well, the shopping for wool.

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Oh, it's just for wool. Okay.

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Yeah, they have a wash I was in
when I went to ice and I went,

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this may be changed because this
was over 10 years ago. But when

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I went it was I went to the wool
shops around because of the

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Icelandic wool is a fantastic
product for sweaters and

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blankets. accent so I went all
over the place. And after I did

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that, as I was leaving, I go to
the airport wool shop. I go. Why

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did I waste my time? Yeah. When
you could have done right there.

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The airport will shop had
fantastic stuff. So just a tip.

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Anyway, I'm all for this pub
crawl and let's talk about it.

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Let's have a meeting.

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To have a meeting. If we really
must. You need a steering

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committee for this?

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Well, we're going to do a meet
up on Saturday in Fayetteville.

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Yes. You're doing a meet up in
Fayetteville? Yes. So that'll be

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Saturday, I think seven to 10
and a Friday. I'm sorry, Friday,

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seven to 10 you can find all
this at meetup.com/no agenda.

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And then Saturday. Trump is in
Arkansas.

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Yeah, one of our dads somebody
has a ticket for you. Yeah. Now

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the way I here's what I think.

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Now, here's the there is one
slight problem because you know,

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Saturday night is show night. So
it I don't know if this is an

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evening event or prep night?
It's prep night. Yeah. But I

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think I should go I think I
should just go see what's

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happening

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that I was thinking about this.
And I think you should go to

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I want to go pick up our check.

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Right there guys, couple
milliseconds missing. I think

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the following one, it may be one
of those overbooked deals and

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just gonna be standing outside
in the overflow area. Is there a

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long line? Do you really want to
stand in a long line to go in

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and listen to a speech? If it's
if it's

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crappy on YouTube, but if it's
crap, you'll just turn around

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and leave? I mean, that's that's
easy. Well, yeah,

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but the thing I think it'd be
nice to be inside so you can get

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a feel

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of some of the vibe the
atmosphere I agree vibe,

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you get the vibe agree. So me
was so in that kind of regard,

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even because one of the colleges
around put Heil Hitler on a

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newspaper about Trump, you know,
and it's just the sort of things

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going on.

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I gotta say something about that
just because you brought it up.

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Yesterday, I was testing out the
the portable rig because of

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course, he'll go on a road trip.
So I want to bring the the ham

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radio gear. So I'm testing it
out. And this is low wattage 10

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Watts, and I get in contact with
the whiskey one. Oscar Echo

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Romeo. Now I recall having and
this is all digital mode. By the

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way. There's just typing on the
computer and it goes through the

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transceiver through the air, and
he's in Waltham, Massachusetts.

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Already cool. I got that at 10
watts. He's 91 years old and

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served in during World War Two,
the Battle of the Bulge, and 91

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and say, Hey, can I ask you a
question? And this is again,

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this is all just just typing it
out. So I actually copied his

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answer. I said, you know, since
you were kind of around when

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Hitler was, was in power, does
Donald Trump sound anything like

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Hitler did at the time? Is it
the same kind of rhetoric? Is it

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the same talk? I think that it
might as well ask the guy who

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was there, right? Yeah. His
answer was no, he does not at

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all sound like Hitler. I think
Donald Trump will make a fine

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president. If he gets elected,
of course, he

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he and a lot of people like him
have who are all Trump

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supporters are being classified
and as Nancy says he blew up No,

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no, no, I'm here. I'm going off
and I'm sorry, drop that. I do

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have a follow up to that. But
I'm talking about these guys who

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are coming out of the woodwork.
They're called last voters and

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is being studied. Because
they're all these laws voters

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are going for. Trump and I have
a clip. Coincidentally, since

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you brought the old man up,
called last voters.

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Okay. It's not called lost. Oh,
there it is. It is called Lost

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voters.

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According to a Reuters IP SOS
survey, one in 10 voters who

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went to the polls in South
Carolina today is a so called

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Lost voter, apathetic Americans
who had given up on the process.

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Until now, who was the last
president, you remember voting

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for? Ronald Reagan. That was 36
years ago, when 64 year old

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Charles Parish was a firefighter
indifferent since President

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Reagan left office. Parish says
he's now back involved in

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politics because of Donald
Trump, the billionaire. So what

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is it really for him the game?
Well, you could say more power,

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perhaps. But I mean, the man's
already powerful. So to me, he's

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more apt to do the right thing
for the country. And survey

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showed 27% of the last voters
break for Trump.

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Yeah. Okay. And meanwhile, on
the History Channel, or the

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heroes channel, or one of those
channels has

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a channel called the heroes
channel. Yes. Nice. I got to

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look down went up.

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And they have the there's very
similar things even run by the

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History Channel. And h2 is a
good example of the

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International but they recently
of course, do a lot of Hitler

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stuff. Yeah. So they,

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because of its popularity is
bigger than ever. I hear. He's

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trending. He's trending.

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So one of the things that they
did, which I watched was his

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recent were, and this was
fascinating, home movies, all

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00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,230
home movies of the journey that
the Germans took, whether there

454
00:26:58,230 --> 00:27:01,080
were a lot of people, even in
the during the war had these

455
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,360
little 16 millimetre cameras.
And as always, you know, these

456
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,720
guys are nerds. They're in the
army and they're taking movies,

457
00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:08,670
they're at home, they're,
they're just taking movies,

458
00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:11,460
they're making little movies
constantly. So they had like,

459
00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:15,720
two hour two or maybe more hours
of these movies and, and they

460
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,570
would show this crazy, these
movies, and then they splice

461
00:27:18,570 --> 00:27:21,660
over different kinds of quotes
from writers of the era

462
00:27:21,660 --> 00:27:25,830
explaining what they were seeing
that related to the movies. And

463
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:29,940
so I ran into this one and had
the clip and it's from a writer.

464
00:27:30,990 --> 00:27:36,030
It was an author, I guess, a
German Frederick wreck. Marlon,

465
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,670
Marlon Lewin or something. Oh,
sounds

466
00:27:38,670 --> 00:27:39,990
like sounds like one of our
donors.

467
00:27:40,890 --> 00:27:45,720
Well, it's worse. But this was
and this was a dis this was

468
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,770
about Hitler's Hitler had a 50th
birthday party, I think in the

469
00:27:49,770 --> 00:27:53,640
late 30s. That was considered
the one of the biggest birthday

470
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,940
parties that anybody ever threw
it for themselves, especially in

471
00:27:56,940 --> 00:28:01,650
history. And this guy is
discussing he's at the thing,

472
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,520
talking about what he's seeing.
And this is the clip these

473
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,200
people are insane.

474
00:28:12,690 --> 00:28:21,780
I witnessed the festivities I
heard the clamour saw the

475
00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:23,700
enraptured faces of the women

476
00:28:25,290 --> 00:28:30,060
through this moronic roar of
pile

477
00:28:31,470 --> 00:28:39,510
hysterical females adolescents
in a trance an entire people in

478
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:48,210
the spiritual state of whirling
dervishes. These people are

479
00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:52,830
insane. Nice.

480
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,230
It was perfect because it was
most of these women it was like

481
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,550
it was more like Bernie Sanders
than Donald Trump. Honestly, it

482
00:29:02,550 --> 00:29:02,910
dad

483
00:29:02,910 --> 00:29:06,840
looks like Bernie Sanders. It
looks like the Beatles. And

484
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,000
usually when you see these
people in the crowds being

485
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,760
pushed back by the police and
they're this screaming and

486
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,770
there's they're going nuts over
there. Rock star who is Hitler,

487
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:20,760
and they would when he says his
people aren't saying they are

488
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,160
the shot some home movie guys
shot of some woman who just look

489
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:32,010
nuts. Yeah, and yeah, I don't I
don't think this is going on at

490
00:29:32,010 --> 00:29:34,500
the Trump Trump guys. Yeah, they
like to yell and scream and they

491
00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:36,960
Trump wants to punch someone in
the face and everybody thinks

492
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,380
that's hilarious. But Bernie
Sanders rallies are much more

493
00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:41,730
like Hitler.

494
00:29:42,660 --> 00:29:48,090
Rollingstone had a big article
about Trump. And pretty much in

495
00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:51,510
the in the opening paragraph. It
starts with you know, we haven't

496
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:55,500
seen this since Hitler. It's how
America it's actually the title

497
00:29:55,500 --> 00:30:06,960
of it is how America made Donald
Trump unstoppable. Shut up.

498
00:30:07,170 --> 00:30:07,980
That's enough of

499
00:30:08,129 --> 00:30:10,679
what we had done. If you think
about these two guys, they're

500
00:30:10,679 --> 00:30:13,559
both packing. I mean, there's no
doubt about him. But Bernie has

501
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:15,629
a view. If you listen to Bernie
stuff, which you don't get to

502
00:30:15,629 --> 00:30:18,809
see so much, right? He is
screaming and yelling.

503
00:30:19,290 --> 00:30:21,360
He's more like Mussolini than
anybody

504
00:30:21,449 --> 00:30:27,449
be much more. So Trump is just
ad libbing in our now. I started

505
00:30:27,479 --> 00:30:28,109
talking,

506
00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:32,340
I realised that I realised
something amidst all of this. In

507
00:30:32,340 --> 00:30:36,630
1972, I moved to the
Netherlands. So I was in Europe,

508
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:41,940
socialist Europe, but you know,
what it was? Around the time

509
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:47,790
Ronald Reagan got elected, which
I think was what 8182 8280 Okay,

510
00:30:47,790 --> 00:30:53,220
80. And I realised that what is
happening outside was a very

511
00:30:53,220 --> 00:31:01,020
socialist country. America has
taken all of those values that I

512
00:31:01,020 --> 00:31:04,680
recognise now from growing up in
Europe around the time Ronald

513
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,060
Reagan was running, because all
you would hear was, oh, this

514
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:13,290
case, he he's a movie actor, oh,
man, this guy, he had guns with

515
00:31:13,290 --> 00:31:19,830
guns. And the same disdain, you
know, as these horrible How can

516
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:24,540
this be the leader of the free
world? That attitude has now

517
00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:29,130
been co opted by a large
population of the United States.

518
00:31:30,330 --> 00:31:34,740
It is this, it's so
recognisable. They can't believe

519
00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:39,480
that this guy could become
president. And that says a lot

520
00:31:39,510 --> 00:31:40,650
that says a lot about what have

521
00:31:40,649 --> 00:31:43,739
you. I don't think it's been co
opted, because it was the same

522
00:31:43,739 --> 00:31:45,029
exact rhetoric.

523
00:31:46,260 --> 00:31:50,160
As Ron, it's been co opted by
the whole not just about him

524
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:55,620
being an actor, but the disdain
and how what he says is, it's

525
00:31:55,620 --> 00:31:59,670
not you know, you can't say that
you can talk like that. Well,

526
00:31:59,670 --> 00:32:02,850
the difference is Cultural
Marxism, I should say, perhaps,

527
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:08,070
the difference between Reagan
and Trump is Ray was offset

528
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:10,800
because he did run in 76. And
then he was ridiculed. And he

529
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,350
they cut him off at the knees.
He didn't get in. So I got in

530
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:17,010
and at the same thing had
happened to Trump. But not

531
00:32:17,010 --> 00:32:20,160
arguing on arguing that I'm just
saying the difference between

532
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,240
the two and so far is the way
they were ridiculed is that

533
00:32:24,270 --> 00:32:28,050
Reagan was much more prepared,
insofar as he gave prepared

534
00:32:28,050 --> 00:32:32,280
speeches. Right? Right. He was
he was very circumspect. He was

535
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,240
the governor of California for a
while so he learned is, you know

536
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,020
what, when to shut up, Trump
never got that training. So this

537
00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:41,760
that's really the main
difference between the two

538
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,670
sides. So here's here's what my
disdain was there. The disdain

539
00:32:44,670 --> 00:32:45,300
was there. Okay,

540
00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:49,350
actor, I'm just saying I feel
it. I feel the same vibe that I

541
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:52,080
felt in Europe when it was
Ronald Reagan, not here. I

542
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,130
wasn't here, but in Europe. Now,
what I'm seeing the media do

543
00:32:56,130 --> 00:33:00,300
right now. And I'm just seeing
this as kind of a broad

544
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:05,160
spectrum. Media is saying, Oh,
well, it's because we gave them

545
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,420
so much attention.

546
00:33:06,450 --> 00:33:09,390
Now they have to blaming
themselves. Yes. It's always

547
00:33:09,390 --> 00:33:11,130
about them. Yes, yes.

548
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,030
Now, so here's Chuck Todd, who
actually did quite a long bit

549
00:33:15,540 --> 00:33:19,140
about Trump Chuck Todd is is he
meet the Meet the neighbours,

550
00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:19,650
what does it meet

551
00:33:19,650 --> 00:33:21,510
the Meet the meet, meet,

552
00:33:22,110 --> 00:33:26,610
meet the meet? Here he is on
that Trump and the media's role.

553
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,310
A common criticism you've heard
is that Trump's rise is the

554
00:33:29,310 --> 00:33:33,090
media's fault, because we
enabled his rise. But folks, you

555
00:33:33,090 --> 00:33:35,370
could argue the media has also
provided all the material that

556
00:33:35,370 --> 00:33:40,320
normally a campaign would want
to put together an attack

557
00:33:40,350 --> 00:33:42,810
against Trump. You don't have to
look far for this stuff, folks.

558
00:33:42,810 --> 00:33:45,900
PolitiFact 2015 Lie of the year
was a litany of Trump's

559
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,960
statements on the campaign
trail. Pick an issue. And there

560
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,650
are others. I

561
00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:51,660
love how he just says that
without actually picking an

562
00:33:51,660 --> 00:33:53,610
issue and saying which one it
was stories

563
00:33:53,610 --> 00:33:56,310
all over the place about Trump's
and inconsistencies. Here's what

564
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:59,430
I mean. On a rack. Trump said
during a debate last fall that

565
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,880
I'm the only person on this
Dyess that fought very, very

566
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,360
hard against us going into Iraq.
But obviously we now know in

567
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,240
2002 when Howard Stern asked him
Are you for invade, there's your

568
00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:12,330
clip that you promising Iraq,
Trump responded. Yeah, I guess

569
00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:16,710
so. Before the US invaded Iraq,
in March of 20 2003, Trump went

570
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:19,500
on Fox News and said, either you
attack or you don't attack.

571
00:34:19,950 --> 00:34:22,350
After the invasion began, he
told Fox Business that quote,

572
00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:25,920
Wall Street is going to go up
like a rocket because of it. And

573
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,800
to cap it all off. Here's what
he told me on Sunday, when I

574
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,520
asked him about those original
Howard Stern, 2002 comments,

575
00:34:32,610 --> 00:34:35,070
I really don't even know what I
mean, because that was a long

576
00:34:35,070 --> 00:34:37,110
time ago. And who knows what was
in my head,

577
00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:41,970
folks. Nice edit. That's the way
to do a hit. These are

578
00:34:41,970 --> 00:34:46,410
all inconsistencies that a
normal campaign that was running

579
00:34:46,410 --> 00:34:48,960
against Donald Trump would
probably put together

580
00:34:49,469 --> 00:34:52,289
TV ads. So he's turning it
around and saying hey, you

581
00:34:52,289 --> 00:34:54,539
should heads we've given you
everything to put together

582
00:34:54,539 --> 00:34:57,569
horrible attack ads, which you
should buy airtime from us for

583
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,210
and try to see if it would leave
a mark with voters. Here's

584
00:35:00,210 --> 00:35:02,880
another example healthcare.
Trump has said time and again

585
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,360
that Obamacare is a total lie.
But he's on the record years ago

586
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,060
saying he's liberal on health
care. And during the debate last

587
00:35:09,060 --> 00:35:11,760
summer he praised single payer
health care saying quote, it

588
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,570
works in Canada.

589
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,740
No, okay. Okay, so it's not
really us know, the campaigns,

590
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:19,500
we've given them everything they
need to make commercials and buy

591
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:24,720
airtime on our networks to air
that. Here is the house this one

592
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:30,480
was named Kim Rhoda Camerata,
from CNN. And she has something

593
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,300
to say about Trump's dangerous
rhetoric.

594
00:35:33,330 --> 00:35:36,360
But Geoffrey see there is
provocation going on. But I

595
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,370
think you're talking about it
from a different side. I mean,

596
00:35:38,370 --> 00:35:41,400
let me just pull up for you. One
of the reporters Katie Turner

597
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,670
from NBC, she sent out this
tweet about what happened last

598
00:35:44,670 --> 00:35:49,650
night she says Trump trashes
press Crowd Cheers. Bye bye

599
00:35:49,650 --> 00:35:54,480
press pen looks at us and
screams you are you be worried

600
00:35:54,510 --> 00:35:57,870
basically on a gentleman hold on
other gentleman gives cameras

601
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,210
the double bird I mean

602
00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:07,830
somebody gave the camera that
did not a single double bird

603
00:36:08,130 --> 00:36:13,410
gives cameras the double bird I
mean this is is really

604
00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:17,250
counterproductive. Isn't this
dangerous on some level?

605
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:20,130
Well, first of all, there's no
excuse for calling somebody the

606
00:36:20,130 --> 00:36:20,730
B word which

607
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,030
it can we can't say bitch on
television. We can't say bitch

608
00:36:24,030 --> 00:36:27,360
anymore. Just be word. The B
word used to be word what is the

609
00:36:27,630 --> 00:36:29,640
I think the B word is Bernie
actually but

610
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,140
I understand and that video. But
here's here's the problem. Okay

611
00:36:34,170 --> 00:36:37,980
is as I as again I saw this
sentiment firsthand last night.

612
00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:41,670
People feel that the media
distorts. They don't tell the

613
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:45,990
truth. portray Trump supporters
as a bunch of bigots, rubes,

614
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:49,410
racists, xenophobes, etc. Yes.
When they're just hard working

615
00:36:49,410 --> 00:36:52,350
folks who are out there. They're
very concerned about the shape

616
00:36:52,350 --> 00:36:54,660
of their country, and they feel
that they are being deliberately

617
00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:56,580
smeared by, folks.

618
00:36:57,150 --> 00:36:57,960
Isn't it also,

619
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,290
right? You're yelling over what?

620
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,670
No, I didn't do anything.

621
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:04,980
I thought you said yes. Yes, I
did. I said, we're

622
00:37:05,130 --> 00:37:06,930
here by these folks.

623
00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:12,150
Isn't it also, Trump? Isn't he
also ginning up that feeling?

624
00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:15,210
Show us when we've we've
labelled somebody as xenophobic.

625
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:20,670
We've never done that, who's a
Trump supporter, Donald Trump is

626
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:24,180
ginning that up and making
people feel violently against

627
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:27,330
the palace. I can point to
editorials from all kinds of

628
00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:30,870
prompts me The Washington Post
this very morning is going after

629
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:34,170
editorial their editorial board
is going after Donald Trump and

630
00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:38,430
his supporters. I mean, I mean,
it's disgraceful. There's an

631
00:37:38,430 --> 00:37:40,950
absolute it's an absolute double
standard.

632
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,550
Yeah, but then the media has
been tasked they gotta get rid

633
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:49,560
of them now. And they did that
this was very sneaky. Because we

634
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,620
know how this kind of stuff
works. These audio recordings

635
00:37:52,620 --> 00:37:58,140
don't just accidentally leave
the studio. This is the hot mic.

636
00:37:58,950 --> 00:38:02,520
Better known as the mics are
open during the commercial break

637
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,870
at MSNBC the morning Joe's show.
With Trump, did you see this? Or

638
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:07,050
did you

639
00:38:07,049 --> 00:38:09,749
hear though? No, no, I'm I know
what it is going to be though.

640
00:38:09,779 --> 00:38:11,219
Yeah, this well, the

641
00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:16,830
headline screams. Mika and Joe
Scarborough promised to go easy

642
00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:21,450
on Trump softball questions.
When really, this bit of audio

643
00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:23,820
and this was leaked on purpose.
This isn't you know, and it's

644
00:38:23,820 --> 00:38:27,420
MSNBC don't permits for that
means MSNBC. So of course,

645
00:38:27,420 --> 00:38:31,170
they're going to leak this out
big headlines, everywhere. But

646
00:38:31,170 --> 00:38:33,690
this is really a very
interesting piece of audio, in

647
00:38:33,690 --> 00:38:39,420
my opinion. Because you hear
Trump knowing that he's not on,

648
00:38:39,630 --> 00:38:43,710
he is not broadcasting now, is
he still on and functioning and

649
00:38:43,710 --> 00:38:47,640
thinking about what he's
discussing with with the hosts?

650
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:54,540
Of course he is. But you can
actually hear a lot of his what

651
00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:57,930
is the word I'm looking for?
He's not not as confident as you

652
00:38:57,930 --> 00:39:00,990
think he might be. Let's just
listen in on this. And we can

653
00:39:00,990 --> 00:39:02,370
comment whenever appropriate.

654
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:06,420
Make a speech. get on a plane,
make a speech

655
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,490
to Bloomberg poll. All the polls
that today look great on

656
00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:11,940
Carolina.

657
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,850
They're spending $75 million and
negative ads on me over the last

658
00:39:20,850 --> 00:39:26,070
two weeks. They're catching on.
catching on.

659
00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:28,620
See he's actually saying do you
think these ads are catching on?

660
00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:31,260
Do you think that's working the
$75 million they spend on being

661
00:39:31,260 --> 00:39:31,710
negative?

662
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,550
They're spending a tremendous
amount on negative ads on me

663
00:39:35,550 --> 00:39:35,850
now.

664
00:39:36,210 --> 00:39:41,790
You know what I thought was kind
of a wow moment was the guy you

665
00:39:41,790 --> 00:39:45,780
brought up on stage several
times just playing it up against

666
00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:46,770
Obama. Both guys.

667
00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:51,210
Played Obama first, the young
guy, the guys

668
00:39:51,660 --> 00:39:55,350
that what you showed us? You
have me almost as a legendary

669
00:39:55,350 --> 00:39:55,890
figure I

670
00:39:55,890 --> 00:39:58,470
like now I tell you this morning
when we went we basically said

671
00:39:58,470 --> 00:40:02,100
today was we were completely You
may be wrong about totally.

672
00:40:02,730 --> 00:40:07,170
This, by the way, it's very
typical banter. For a television

673
00:40:07,170 --> 00:40:09,900
show, this kind of stuff is very
normal, very normal, what you're

674
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:11,550
hearing here, I don't hear
anything back. I

675
00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:17,280
didn't mention one thing. There
was a, there was a show that was

676
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,840
a kind of a behind it. It was
one of the greatest shows in the

677
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,410
history of comedy called The
Larry Sanders Show. And it was

678
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,830
modelled after the Carson Show
at the time, during his hate

679
00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:32,880
hate, it was an night show. And
the show is really a meta show

680
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,530
and which made it so
interesting. And they played or

681
00:40:37,590 --> 00:40:41,760
courses is all scripted, but it
was still pretty down to earth

682
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,430
via the way it works. They
played all this stuff that you

683
00:40:44,430 --> 00:40:46,920
know, when they go to the break,
and then the host leans over to

684
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,770
the guest and says something
whispers in their ear, and they

685
00:40:50,460 --> 00:40:52,800
talk back and forth while the
band's playing in the

686
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,030
commercials or on. Well, this
show, put that's what was the

687
00:40:57,030 --> 00:41:00,120
one of the places they went
with. So you had to hear the two

688
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,510
guys talking. And it was always
like had nothing to do with this

689
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:07,440
show. It was it was sometimes
about what you know, sometimes

690
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,080
it was strategy about what
you're going to talk about next,

691
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:12,840
and all that sort of thing. And
that and this is exactly what

692
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,780
you're playing here. This is
what happens. What do you expect

693
00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:16,530
people to do?

694
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,510
Hey, now. Thank you for doing
this.

695
00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:25,560
I'm doing it because you get
great ratings and arrays.

696
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:29,070
So this is very typical. Thanks
for doing this. No problem.

697
00:41:29,070 --> 00:41:30,360
You'll get great ratings and
arrays.

698
00:41:31,410 --> 00:41:34,470
Getting a real window into your.
So

699
00:41:35,069 --> 00:41:35,999
let's make us all look good.

700
00:41:37,410 --> 00:41:40,140
So that's the offending quote
right there. Just make us all

701
00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:43,080
look good. Just make us all look
good. He says him say make me

702
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,930
look good. He says make us all
look good. That's what you say,

703
00:41:45,930 --> 00:41:46,890
hey, let's do a great show.

704
00:41:48,330 --> 00:41:51,540
With Raj and Jack. Right. So
they made a big scandal out of

705
00:41:51,540 --> 00:41:53,730
this. There is some interesting
stuff coming out because he said

706
00:41:53,730 --> 00:41:55,200
I won the debate Joe and you
think

707
00:41:57,060 --> 00:42:01,410
the CVS But the next morning
when it's on the CBS mo but

708
00:42:01,410 --> 00:42:06,300
still I knew I knew that the
people that mattered. Thank you.

709
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,330
Awesome. Thanks. I mean, you
came in a strong second. And

710
00:42:09,330 --> 00:42:10,950
I'll tell you what was the most
revealing thing is

711
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:15,420
Bush able to say guy you came in
as a weakness. And

712
00:42:15,420 --> 00:42:17,850
at that point, I said to mica,
we don't know what

713
00:42:20,070 --> 00:42:23,760
is a weak person? Do you don't
want me to do

714
00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:27,660
weak persistence. Okay, so now
she's saying, Hey, this is what

715
00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:30,180
we're gonna do in this segment.
This is this is totally my

716
00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:32,820
experience with all television
shows. She said that we'll do

717
00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:35,970
this. Let's do that. The ones

718
00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:41,460
we really have to get to some
questions. That's right. And

719
00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:42,510
nothing has nothing to hide.

720
00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:45,630
Nothing. Nothing too hard. Mica.
Okay.

721
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:50,430
I think that was for most people
in the Republican establishment

722
00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:52,920
sort of the final sign

723
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,630
looking good, because they will
see what happens. So what are

724
00:42:57,630 --> 00:43:00,570
the chances that something bad
could happen on Saturday for me?

725
00:43:01,050 --> 00:43:01,860
It's always a challenge to

726
00:43:02,250 --> 00:43:04,650
see this is entered. Here's
Donald Trump being I think

727
00:43:04,650 --> 00:43:06,840
vulnerable. He's saying so what
do you think my chances aren't

728
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,460
Saturday? Do you think he's
looking good?

729
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:11,550
He's He's cognizant of the
situation. Hell yeah.

730
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,340
So what are the chances of
something bad could happen on

731
00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:16,440
Saturday for me? It's always a
challenge.

732
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:23,820
This isn't, it's like I said
before Iowa. I said, I can't

733
00:43:23,820 --> 00:43:28,230
tell you Trump's ahead. I can't
tell if he's gonna put his

734
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:32,490
caucus state in primary states.
Look how close New Hampshire was

735
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:36,810
the polls were almost identical.
You can take a mix of these

736
00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:37,380
polls, the

737
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:40,320
polls overlay except with
Caulkins because they change

738
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:40,770
except

739
00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:43,830
for caucus caucuses. They should
get written

740
00:43:43,830 --> 00:43:46,230
about it. Oh, it's terrible.
Nevada is a caucus state. I'm

741
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:47,700
going back 50% or

742
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:49,740
so for up in Nevada, according
to this latest

743
00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:50,070
poll.

744
00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:57,540
So I'm going to read this and
then you take the question. It

745
00:43:57,540 --> 00:44:00,780
does kind of delete the whole
thing. No, no, I'm doing No, I'm

746
00:44:00,780 --> 00:44:04,290
doing a general question. Okay.

747
00:44:05,279 --> 00:44:07,439
She said I'm doing bullets.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, Trump

748
00:44:07,439 --> 00:44:08,579
says it's kind of good.

749
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,960
Beautiful voice. They said yes.
Beautiful. So hit those one word

750
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,620
bullet points.

751
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,560
Okay, we're not gonna do that.

752
00:44:18,060 --> 00:44:21,570
I hate those one word bullet
points is this was very, very

753
00:44:21,570 --> 00:44:26,310
normal. No headline necessary.
If anything interesting to hear

754
00:44:26,310 --> 00:44:28,830
that he did what you said he's,
he's very cognizant of the

755
00:44:28,830 --> 00:44:33,720
situation. He has questions. He
wonders if he's doing okay. That

756
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:35,490
was one of the better moments. I
think

757
00:44:36,299 --> 00:44:42,509
it was better than the normal
show. So what ran the big Wow,

758
00:44:42,509 --> 00:44:44,429
is this a scandal who ran it as
a scandal?

759
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:47,370
But let me see if I can find it
in my notes.

760
00:44:51,450 --> 00:44:52,230
Seeing the clips and

761
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:55,620
I mean, the Washington Post has
been going after him like crazy.

762
00:44:55,650 --> 00:44:59,970
Yes, the Bezos is obviously it
has something to do with that.

763
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,470
Hmm, well, now, I ran into the
piece that was done on ABC and

764
00:45:07,530 --> 00:45:11,310
the ABC is still it was there.
They can't support Bush anymore,

765
00:45:11,310 --> 00:45:16,260
but they're still not on board
with Trump. And they put out it

766
00:45:16,260 --> 00:45:20,880
it's kind of a kind of a mild a
hit piece. But it had a couple

767
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:28,440
of a couple of things within the
mechanism they used that I have

768
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,460
to talk about and deconstruct,
because I didn't I think I've

769
00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:36,720
noticed this before, but I never
noticed it if you know what I

770
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:38,520
mean. It's one of those things
where you hear it and yes, you

771
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,350
listen to it when you're doing
the video.

772
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,900
I had a couple of those last
night actually.

773
00:45:44,010 --> 00:45:48,240
So let's listen to this. This is
the ABC deconstruct Trump's slam

774
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:49,350
new tricks. Tom

775
00:45:49,350 --> 00:45:51,930
Yamas joins us live tonight. Tom
Donald Trump now coming under

776
00:45:51,930 --> 00:45:55,860
fire for refusing to release his
tax returns before Super Tuesday

777
00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:58,800
and tonight a former Republican
presidential nominee Mitt Romney

778
00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,490
speaking out.

779
00:46:01,050 --> 00:46:03,810
That's right, David, Mitt Romney
saying he thinks there's likely

780
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,680
a bombshell in Trump's tax
returns. Romney citing no proof

781
00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:10,800
says he thinks Trump is not as
rich as Trump claims to be and

782
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,530
he hasn't donated as much to
charity as much as Trump has

783
00:46:13,530 --> 00:46:16,560
said that Trump has responded
tonight with a tweet saying that

784
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,310
Mitt Romney is a fool and trying
to act like a tough guy, David,

785
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:23,550
they're really protected the
establishment is coming out and

786
00:46:23,550 --> 00:46:25,080
they're doing anything they can.

787
00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:28,740
Well here's the interesting
aspect of this particular piece.

788
00:46:29,580 --> 00:46:34,140
I like the way they you know you
people are so used to hearing

789
00:46:34,140 --> 00:46:37,290
attributions and the way they're
presented that if there's no

790
00:46:37,290 --> 00:46:43,290
attribution but if it's
presented as if there was you it

791
00:46:43,290 --> 00:46:46,530
goes into the brain and you get
click okay. You just don't don't

792
00:46:46,530 --> 00:46:51,480
notice it. And that is the that
is the the phrase we're dealing

793
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,040
with here is and Mitt Romney
citing no proof and then he goes

794
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:03,300
on yes citing no proof. Citing
no proof Demi's Why are you even

795
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:09,000
discussing this you're a news
station you can't cite you can't

796
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,600
It's No it's nothing to cite oh
you're like a citation is where

797
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,660
you I'm citing and this and this
and this I got these magazines

798
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:22,170
you citation is no proof is not
a citation. So how can you cite

799
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:22,920
no proof

800
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:26,310
you can cite the guy who cited
no proof that's what they're

801
00:47:26,310 --> 00:47:26,550
doing.

802
00:47:27,149 --> 00:47:29,969
So they throw it in is citing no
proof at all. And it's one of

803
00:47:29,969 --> 00:47:33,959
those fast talking guys it's on
all networks. Citing no proof he

804
00:47:33,959 --> 00:47:37,619
says as a disaster and citing no
proof. He's he's a he's a child

805
00:47:37,619 --> 00:47:41,699
molester. So you go citing no
proof he's a child molester

806
00:47:41,729 --> 00:47:44,669
would go right into the brains
of the idiots that listen to

807
00:47:44,669 --> 00:47:46,379
these shows. And

808
00:47:46,410 --> 00:47:51,270
oh, yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Exactly. At

809
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:56,130
the end, they decide to just
lie. Yeah. Now they may Maybe

810
00:47:56,130 --> 00:47:59,310
Trump somewhere said the point
where he said,

811
00:48:00,209 --> 00:48:03,209
Why don't we just play it again.
It's only 30 seconds. Let's play

812
00:48:03,209 --> 00:48:03,479
it again.

813
00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:06,149
Tommy almost joins us live
today. Tom Donald Trump now

814
00:48:06,149 --> 00:48:08,969
coming under fire for refusing
to release his tax returns.

815
00:48:09,179 --> 00:48:11,759
Before Super Tuesday. You just
stopped when you want me today.

816
00:48:11,759 --> 00:48:14,699
And tonight a former Republican
presidential nominee Mitt Romney

817
00:48:14,699 --> 00:48:15,389
speaking out.

818
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,680
That's right, David, Mitt Romney
saying he thinks there's likely

819
00:48:19,710 --> 00:48:23,550
a bombshell in Trump's tax
returns. Romney citing no proof

820
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,700
says he thinks Trump is not as
rich as Trump claims to be and

821
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:27,480
he hasn't donated.

822
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:31,920
This is actually a great line to
slip in there. This is fantastic

823
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:32,220
mustard

824
00:48:32,220 --> 00:48:35,310
charity, as much as Trump has
said that Trump has responded

825
00:48:35,310 --> 00:48:38,820
tonight with a tweet saying that
Mitt Romney is a fool and trying

826
00:48:38,820 --> 00:48:41,190
to act like a tough guy, David,
Taka

827
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:43,800
is good catch. Good catch.

828
00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:48,180
Now that this is also this is
like, the last part was a lot

829
00:48:48,180 --> 00:48:51,300
with deciding thing is
fantastic. And last part,

830
00:48:51,300 --> 00:48:55,020
though, was just like, what else
can we do? Why don't we just lie

831
00:48:55,050 --> 00:48:58,680
and I saw that tweet. The tweet
is a quote from somebody else.

832
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,550
And then at the end, Trump said
he's a fool. There's no tough

833
00:49:02,550 --> 00:49:06,720
guy thing mentioned in this
tweet. He's acting like a tough

834
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:08,640
trying to act like a tough guy.
That's the kind of thing he

835
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,490
threw at us throw it Ruby on
these guys done it. So you know,

836
00:49:11,490 --> 00:49:15,450
he said, here's another trick.
You know, he says this, that

837
00:49:15,450 --> 00:49:17,820
he's that trying to act like a
tough guy because he says it on

838
00:49:17,820 --> 00:49:20,640
the debates. Every so often.
When some guy jumps on him. He

839
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,280
says, Oh, there he is trying to
act like a tough guy. So we've

840
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,520
heard him say it over and over
again. He did not say it in this

841
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,310
tweet that that where he says
he's a fool. He may have said it

842
00:49:29,310 --> 00:49:31,950
someplace else. I didn't see
that. But he did. He said this

843
00:49:31,950 --> 00:49:34,560
specific tweet where he said
he's a fool. He didn't say he's

844
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,350
a tough guy. So they just lied
on that. So you use citing

845
00:49:37,380 --> 00:49:40,500
citing no proof. And let's just
lie about something just to put

846
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:44,790
some icing on the cake. I mean,
this is unconscionable reporting

847
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:52,650
on the part of ABC network. John
Cena for X diva peeve, but it

848
00:49:52,650 --> 00:49:52,920
was

849
00:49:52,980 --> 00:49:56,160
Deaf up even while I was angered
me I was going to bring up

850
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,790
something. Something else I just
don't know. Maybe I'll put it

851
00:49:59,790 --> 00:50:06,840
into the Wrong Ben here on a
second. The way that it really

852
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:12,870
does work quite well. And we've
discussed this before when you

853
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:15,360
just say something and then it
sticks. And then before you know

854
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,070
it, that's what it is.

855
00:50:19,980 --> 00:50:23,790
Especially if you say something
in a within a mechanism that

856
00:50:23,790 --> 00:50:27,840
people are used to hearing. Yes,
that would be citing No,

857
00:50:27,870 --> 00:50:31,110
I was actually I thought I
clipped this I pulled two clips,

858
00:50:31,140 --> 00:50:36,480
because it came up in the it
came up in the Rolling Stone

859
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,460
article, the Rolling Stone
article. They say they reference

860
00:50:41,490 --> 00:50:45,420
Sarah Palin, who was so crazy.
She actually thought that she

861
00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:51,210
could see Russia, Russia from
her from her house. What's

862
00:50:51,210 --> 00:50:54,780
interesting is that is not what
she said, at all. It was

863
00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:59,130
actually Tina Fey who said that,
yes. And I'm just I'm just

864
00:50:59,130 --> 00:51:01,440
looking for I don't know what
happened. I know why those

865
00:51:01,710 --> 00:51:04,980
losses, just kind of pissing me
off, because I had specifically

866
00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:08,670
pulled the clip to what she had
said, what Sarah Palin said was

867
00:51:08,670 --> 00:51:10,770
something completely different.
So there's a little island,

868
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:13,680
right off the right off the
coast of Alaska. And from there,

869
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,230
you can see the mainland of
Russia. That is what she said.

870
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:19,110
Then two days later, Tina Fey
went on Saturday Night Live and

871
00:51:19,110 --> 00:51:21,780
said, I can see Russia from my
house. And that has Rolling

872
00:51:21,780 --> 00:51:26,670
Stone, printed this as if it was
fact. Oh, God, as if it was

873
00:51:26,670 --> 00:51:27,270
fact.

874
00:51:29,790 --> 00:51:32,550
Dig goes on for the next show.
Because that, that sort of

875
00:51:32,550 --> 00:51:37,650
thing. And we see it constantly
in the media. It's some meme.

876
00:51:38,310 --> 00:51:42,360
Yes, that people accept as fact
when it was a joke or or was

877
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,480
never was sad, or somebody said
it was and what this is like me

878
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,190
in the mouse? Yes, there was a I
wrote in 1984. For people don't

879
00:51:50,190 --> 00:51:53,040
know this when I was writing
for, I guess, the San Francisco

880
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,400
Examiner, I wrote reasons the
Macintosh might fail when it

881
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,860
came out. And it was all good
reasons. And all those all the

882
00:51:58,890 --> 00:52:02,130
things on the checklist that I
listed were all changed. But one

883
00:52:02,130 --> 00:52:06,570
of the things I said was that
Moussa is, and nobody knows

884
00:52:06,570 --> 00:52:08,880
whether this will be a success
or not. I had some, you know,

885
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,700
and you said there is no
evidence, there's no evidence

886
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:15,720
that right that the public wants
a mouse. And there wasn't

887
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:18,780
because the thing just showed
up, oh, just kind of radical

888
00:52:18,780 --> 00:52:22,710
idea. So I saw a bunch of guys
got all worked up about this,

889
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:26,280
and one of them created. One of
them can I bet by the way, I've

890
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,640
spent the last 20 years every
time I see this show up, I write

891
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,910
the guy and tell him a story. I
sent him a copy of the original

892
00:52:32,910 --> 00:52:35,670
article and I say, and I point
to him, I said, you're such a

893
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:37,890
jerk, good journalist. Tell me
where I say that in this

894
00:52:37,890 --> 00:52:43,980
article. You can read it for
yourself. And it was the quote

895
00:52:43,980 --> 00:52:47,970
was, the quote that I didn't say
was, nobody wants these

896
00:52:47,970 --> 00:52:52,470
newfangled device. If you did
not say that. I never said the

897
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:55,800
word newfangled Feingold as that
second old codger, that's what

898
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,920
they were trying to do ever
dream they term up to well, the

899
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,690
weekend just domain this guy by
make by dreaming up making up a

900
00:53:03,690 --> 00:53:07,740
quote that he wants a newfangled
device and just put it out there

901
00:53:07,740 --> 00:53:10,980
and see what happens. And it
caught on because everybody was

902
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:15,300
against my questioning the
viability of the mouse. And so

903
00:53:15,330 --> 00:53:18,840
be energised, been spendings
ever since people keep bringing

904
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,770
it up. And every once awhile, I
still see the new fangled quote,

905
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,560
and I always write to or get a
hold of the writer and say, What

906
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,890
kind of, you know, where'd you
get this information? It's not

907
00:53:28,890 --> 00:53:33,030
that nice, you know? And it's
just unbelievable. And it's this

908
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:36,840
is how that works. It's a very
common problem. When something

909
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,820
gets into the man to the
Internet doesn't make it any

910
00:53:38,820 --> 00:53:39,210
better.

911
00:53:40,290 --> 00:53:43,230
The internet is actually what we
use to make it worse.

912
00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:47,280
makes it worse. And so you have
this situation. And so now, now

913
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,030
what she sees Russia from her
porch, but you know, she didn't,

914
00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:54,450
right. Yeah. I know, I made
world. I

915
00:53:54,450 --> 00:53:56,460
know I made the clips, I'll have
them on Sunday. I had they

916
00:53:56,490 --> 00:54:01,350
didn't show up in my bin for
some reason. Okay, and based on

917
00:54:01,350 --> 00:54:04,950
something that you tweeted,
which I want to hear from you in

918
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:08,850
a moment, here we go back to
actually mica mica Brzezinski,

919
00:54:08,850 --> 00:54:13,470
daughter of the elite has some
ideas about Trump's possible

920
00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:15,270
vice presidential pick,

921
00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:19,110
and he and Ted Cruz. I'm sorry,
I don't want to offend anybody

922
00:54:19,110 --> 00:54:22,230
any more than I already have.
But when I see these guys

923
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:26,640
talking, I see first term
senators that are reading

924
00:54:26,670 --> 00:54:28,440
rehearsed lines to get to meet
because

925
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,220
perfect for a vice presidential
candidate sucking up to Trump

926
00:54:32,220 --> 00:54:33,270
and to guess that

927
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:40,050
focus groups Michael Steele, it
makes Marco Rubio won't attack

928
00:54:40,050 --> 00:54:44,670
Donald Trump. Donald Trump won't
attack Marco Rubio, should we go

929
00:54:44,670 --> 00:54:46,290
ahead and just get a picture of
them?

930
00:54:49,470 --> 00:54:52,440
Because Marco Rubio is actually
the only one well, first of all,

931
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,960
he's necessary on a number of
levels, but he's the only one

932
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,480
who will go against everything
he believes in and say whatever

933
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,660
needs to be said and Trump knows
that he can prop him perfectly

934
00:55:00,660 --> 00:55:03,990
and that he will follow suit, he
will do whatever Trump tells him

935
00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:06,750
to do. He will do that. That's
why he will be his vice

936
00:55:06,750 --> 00:55:07,320
presidential.

937
00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:14,370
There you go. Now there so she's
saying that she believes Rubio

938
00:55:14,370 --> 00:55:19,230
will be Trump's vice
presidential pick. And there was

939
00:55:19,230 --> 00:55:24,060
someone else who was being
touted today as some Republican

940
00:55:24,060 --> 00:55:27,660
somewhere. Can't find Well,

941
00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:34,290
I think Rubio if I was to advise
Trump on picking somebody,

942
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,470
although my, I think the super
selections the one I mentioned

943
00:55:37,470 --> 00:55:41,460
in that tweet, which is the love
woman, yes. Yeah. Mainly because

944
00:55:41,460 --> 00:55:43,080
she's got a great name. She's
black.

945
00:55:43,110 --> 00:55:44,700
I like her. I saw her.

946
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:47,130
I mean, we've seen her before.
She's talks to everyone. So

947
00:55:47,130 --> 00:55:51,450
while she comes out and says
some, and she is a very

948
00:55:51,450 --> 00:55:56,880
pleasant, strong willed, she's a
Mormon. She's black. She's in

949
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,830
Utah. He's got all these
elements.

950
00:55:59,070 --> 00:56:01,710
What else do you need? Is she
transgender that would be

951
00:56:01,710 --> 00:56:02,310
perfect?

952
00:56:02,490 --> 00:56:07,560
Well, she spoke Spanish would
probably help but Rubio is a

953
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:13,800
really good idea. And I think
what I hear is that Trump wants

954
00:56:13,830 --> 00:56:17,940
if he gets into he hasn't he
hasn't gotten past the knives

955
00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:20,040
yet they're still kind of
they're coming out for Yeah. Oh,

956
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,770
yeah. This will be an important
week coming up and they're gonna

957
00:56:22,770 --> 00:56:26,340
keep coming out if you have Mitt
Romney citing no evidence, no

958
00:56:26,340 --> 00:56:31,560
evidence is it what's Romney got
to do with this? He should shut

959
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,850
up and get off the air what's
even talking for so guys?

960
00:56:36,270 --> 00:56:39,990
Anyway? Well, that Rubio could
speak Spanish he could get he's

961
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:41,460
from Florida he's got all these

962
00:56:41,550 --> 00:56:46,260
that's when mica says you know
he we send some ways we have to

963
00:56:46,260 --> 00:56:49,440
have him or whatever said he's
got things that we need. Which

964
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,900
is surprising. I don't know if
she means we buy the party and

965
00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:57,540
she's Republican. But I think
you're right. I think the I like

966
00:56:57,540 --> 00:57:04,560
the love woman. But I really
like her. And she seems like

967
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,910
she's got a level head you know?

968
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,940
Yeah. I think he needs a Rubio
or somebody that's got a even

969
00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:15,390
though Rubio from the sounds of
it. He wants to get some ins to

970
00:57:15,390 --> 00:57:18,690
Washington insider that can help
him get legislation through and

971
00:57:18,690 --> 00:57:19,680
knows the ropes of

972
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,610
Washington, which is what he
said. verbatim, though. Yeah.

973
00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:27,930
Not gonna walk in there like
Jimmy Carter,

974
00:57:27,930 --> 00:57:30,420
and he should be announcing his
pick pretty soon. I would say I

975
00:57:30,420 --> 00:57:31,980
think this is about the time

976
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:35,040
now it can't be Canada when he's
still running against Rubio.

977
00:57:35,790 --> 00:57:39,330
You can still Hey, I nominate
Rubio. You could you could say

978
00:57:39,330 --> 00:57:40,080
that, can't you?

979
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:44,040
You could but then it would be
pretty presumptuous

980
00:57:44,910 --> 00:57:49,560
meaning Meanwhile, over on CBS
in the the morning show with

981
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,580
Charlie and Oprah's girlfriend
and with some some other guy.

982
00:57:55,140 --> 00:58:00,930
They respond to Hillary.
Hillary's I don't think I've

983
00:58:00,930 --> 00:58:04,920
lied. I've always tried to be
I've always tried to be good.

984
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:08,940
I try not to let me see.
Certainly I still accept play

985
00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:10,260
it. Here we go.

986
00:58:14,340 --> 00:58:17,730
Taylor, I thought it was an ISO
did we have an ISO or that?

987
00:58:19,980 --> 00:58:22,230
Could maybe I didn't have it was
yours?

988
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:28,560
Yeah. And but we'll play the CBS
CBS response to her saying I've

989
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,990
I've really tried to tell the
truth.

990
00:58:31,020 --> 00:58:33,690
I don't believe I ever have. I
don't believe I ever will. I'm

991
00:58:33,690 --> 00:58:36,090
going to do the best I can to
level with the American people.

992
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,940
By three days left before the
primary Clinton still leads the

993
00:58:38,940 --> 00:58:42,900
polls in South Carolina. Have
you guys ever told a lie and has

994
00:58:42,900 --> 00:58:45,210
your sense of humour intact?
Have you ever told a lie? Yes,

995
00:58:45,210 --> 00:58:48,750
yes. Have you? Yeah. So I guess
I have now I'm waiting to find

996
00:58:48,750 --> 00:58:52,740
the person who's never told a
lie. You ever told a lie first?

997
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:55,410
Yeah, to

998
00:58:55,410 --> 00:58:56,730
keep the record going? Yeah.

999
00:58:56,820 --> 00:59:01,230
Unbelievable. Everyone tells a
lie. It's okay. If you tells a

1000
00:59:01,230 --> 00:59:04,080
lie. They're they're backing
Hillary was saying but she has

1001
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,690
nonsense. You can lie. It's
okay. She can lie

1002
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,270
all the time. Of course, I've

1003
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:11,310
lied. Of course. That's human
nature.

1004
00:59:11,580 --> 00:59:14,280
Yeah, it was you to faulting or
you don't want to be human.

1005
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:21,690
And a little ditty from Ben
Carson. about racism. And

1006
00:59:22,380 --> 00:59:25,440
there's a longer interview and
he talks about how he has felt

1007
00:59:25,470 --> 00:59:28,020
completely equal has had no
problems with the Republican

1008
00:59:28,020 --> 00:59:31,710
Party, Democrats, however, or
the left. What was

1009
00:59:31,710 --> 00:59:34,860
the last experience that you
personally had with what you

1010
00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:38,340
would consider to be real racism
in your life? Well, you don't

1011
00:59:38,340 --> 00:59:43,380
have to go too far. I think the
way that I'm treated, you know,

1012
00:59:43,380 --> 00:59:48,030
by the left is racism. Really?
Yeah. Because they simply

1013
00:59:48,060 --> 00:59:51,900
because you're black. You have
to think a certain way. And if

1014
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:55,770
you don't think that way, your
Uncle Tom, you're worthy of

1015
00:59:55,980 --> 01:00:00,360
every horrible episode they can
come up with, whereas the If I

1016
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,660
weren't black, then I would just
be a Republican.

1017
01:00:05,250 --> 01:00:08,850
True. I think he's right now
he's totally right. Very, very

1018
01:00:08,850 --> 01:00:09,300
right.

1019
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,680
Black Republicans always bitch
about this. Yeah, they're not

1020
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,620
staying in there. They're not
staying in there. And they're

1021
01:00:16,620 --> 01:00:20,850
hot. They're hot. They're not
doing what they're supposed to

1022
01:00:20,850 --> 01:00:21,150
do.

1023
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,500
And then my favourite reward.
This one was Andrea Mitchell on

1024
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:29,670
MSNBC and they went to Nevada.
You know, of course, when you

1025
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:32,340
have Republicans in Nevada, what
are you going to do? Where are

1026
01:00:32,340 --> 01:00:33,600
you going to do your report from

1027
01:00:34,020 --> 01:00:35,730
Nevada as they would pronounce
it,

1028
01:00:35,790 --> 01:00:39,510
Nevada? Now you do it from the
gun range where Republicans are

1029
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:43,380
exercising their Second
Amendment right. This is what we

1030
01:00:43,380 --> 01:00:44,160
would call

1031
01:00:46,020 --> 01:00:50,670
like finding the hick in Texas.
We have an average Texan here.

1032
01:00:50,670 --> 01:00:52,500
What do you think of this
shooting? Well,

1033
01:00:53,940 --> 01:00:56,850
it's much better, John. It's
much better than that. It is a

1034
01:00:56,850 --> 01:00:58,380
full minute of glory.

1035
01:00:58,410 --> 01:01:01,020
Well, there's a lot of
attention. I'm actually right

1036
01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:07,080
now at Reno guns and range, and
I put myself here because he's,

1037
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,420
you'll see over my shoulder
here, there's lots of folks here

1038
01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:13,350
who believe that the Second
Amendment country is under

1039
01:01:13,350 --> 01:01:14,550
attack and

1040
01:01:16,860 --> 01:01:24,240
short distance away like Donald
Trump all the Republicans

1041
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:32,670
protecting Donald speeches, he
supports the first supports the

1042
01:01:32,670 --> 01:01:40,140
second large crowd is that as we
know Trump has been

1043
01:01:41,460 --> 01:01:49,470
missing he's missing on Ted Cruz
saying today wow was Ted Cruz.

1044
01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:57,930
Is very capable director. He
used him like a dog talking

1045
01:01:57,930 --> 01:02:08,520
about your life with the folks
under today care Carrie Hi.

1046
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:13,020
I'm afraid we could not hear
most of that because the

1047
01:02:13,050 --> 01:02:15,750
gunpowder was the firepower was
a little bit too great sorry we

1048
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:17,010
didn't know you were gonna be
there today.

1049
01:02:20,970 --> 01:02:26,970
Thank you, I thought I deserved
that. And with that,

1050
01:02:26,970 --> 01:02:31,260
I'd like to thank you by the way
great before it hit that it's a

1051
01:02:31,260 --> 01:02:34,920
shame somebody to see this jerk
out there doing this and brought

1052
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,300
some black powder. It was just
blown up.

1053
01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:45,900
I love that. What a report as
fans.

1054
01:02:47,370 --> 01:02:50,670
Let the guy go and they just let
the guy go and go and go and go

1055
01:02:50,670 --> 01:02:55,290
like because it was gold. I
think it was comedy gold, comedy

1056
01:02:55,290 --> 01:02:57,570
gold. And with that I want to
thank you for your courage and

1057
01:02:57,570 --> 01:03:01,860
say in the morning Hugh Johnson
as he stands for comedy gold

1058
01:03:01,890 --> 01:03:02,970
DeVore Ack.

1059
01:03:03,060 --> 01:03:05,280
Belinda morning you Mr. Adam
curry. Also in the morning all

1060
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,530
ships and sea boots on the
ground feet in the air subs in

1061
01:03:07,530 --> 01:03:10,710
the water. And all the dames
knights out

1062
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:14,580
there in the morning to nick the
rat, who brought us artwork for

1063
01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:21,090
episode 801 That was the
previous episodes hung over. Oh,

1064
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,960
oh, he's he was doing his radio
show again. His

1065
01:03:25,350 --> 01:03:28,890
lifetime drunk on this Twitter
and then that was it last Yeah,

1066
01:03:28,890 --> 01:03:29,250
he

1067
01:03:29,250 --> 01:03:33,090
gets drunk at night as he gets
drunk on the show. White male

1068
01:03:33,090 --> 01:03:36,630
clerks was the title of 801 and
Nick brought us the beautiful

1069
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:37,620
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1070
01:03:38,130 --> 01:03:41,550
The hug the man hug man

1071
01:03:41,819 --> 01:03:46,139
and in the morning all artists
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1073
01:03:48,329 --> 01:03:50,639
agenda art generator.com And
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1074
01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:54,059
Good to have you all there no
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1075
01:03:54,059 --> 01:03:57,389
to the executive producers who
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1076
01:03:57,389 --> 01:03:58,409
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1077
01:04:00,300 --> 01:04:04,740
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1078
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:09,450
Whoa, that we didn't get any
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1079
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:12,990
I liked your Wi Fi ideas a good
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1080
01:04:12,990 --> 01:04:15,930
didn't pay off. But the
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1081
01:04:15,930 --> 01:04:19,080
came in before that newsletter
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1082
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,260
entitled me to a knighthood
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1083
01:04:22,260 --> 01:04:26,280
realise you must have a triple
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1084
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,900
correct this error, I am
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1085
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:34,980
knighthood please keep this
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1086
01:04:34,980 --> 01:04:39,420
want to be known by a certain
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1087
01:04:39,450 --> 01:04:43,410
you may want to consider your
marriage of guard getters

1088
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,340
tricker in the listening of the
show. Yeah, okay, so he didn't

1089
01:04:47,340 --> 01:04:51,390
really mention what it wasn't he
mentioned before as his desire

1090
01:04:51,390 --> 01:04:54,750
is just an okay well just send
us a note saying what it is you

1091
01:04:54,750 --> 01:04:56,370
want. But you are now

1092
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,370
thank you for your courage and
your passion sending your love

1093
01:04:59,370 --> 01:04:59,970
and light

1094
01:05:02,909 --> 01:05:06,839
You should be spinning. Spinning
I don't mean spinning on the

1095
01:05:06,839 --> 01:05:11,669
bicycle just spinning in general
with the arms out why? Why just

1096
01:05:11,669 --> 01:05:14,969
spinning alright Love and Light
Love and Light love American

1097
01:05:14,969 --> 01:05:20,969
labour came in with $500 Only my
John and Adam i i douche bag my

1098
01:05:20,969 --> 01:05:26,129
last donation note with the
urgent karma request coming from

1099
01:05:26,129 --> 01:05:29,399
my selfish needs the no agenda
is dire showing for January I

1100
01:05:29,399 --> 01:05:34,679
didn't think my karma note was
read or Karma sprinkled in the

1101
01:05:34,679 --> 01:05:37,529
requested directions but
interestingly interesting show

1102
01:05:37,529 --> 01:05:40,829
donation seems to have improved
so okay, it worked Yeah, a

1103
01:05:40,829 --> 01:05:44,189
positive sea change for my
situation says by donation and

1104
01:05:44,189 --> 01:05:47,249
karma request but one cannot be
too careful in these matters.

1105
01:05:47,249 --> 01:05:49,949
I'm doubling down for another
big time karma request both for

1106
01:05:49,949 --> 01:05:52,949
the future of this show
donations and to be plentiful

1107
01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:57,149
and for my business matters. I
wonder what he's using for a

1108
01:05:57,959 --> 01:06:02,789
frog character code because he
keeps dropping all these n amp

1109
01:06:02,789 --> 01:06:03,539
ampersands

1110
01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:06,420
Yeah, he probably copy pasted it
from something

1111
01:06:06,869 --> 01:06:09,659
maybe wrote it is it were his
business matter? He needed a

1112
01:06:09,659 --> 01:06:14,219
couple of karma a Putin for old
times sake. Each throw in your

1113
01:06:14,219 --> 01:06:21,179
current favourites I'm going to
do its science because of some

1114
01:06:21,179 --> 01:06:25,619
note that sir been wrote that I
could

1115
01:06:25,650 --> 01:06:29,100
Oh, you mean Dr. Kiki, it's
science. Yeah, okay. And I'm

1116
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:32,370
gonna throw in I got the North
Korean lady back I have her ISO

1117
01:06:32,370 --> 01:06:35,370
and a jingle as well. So we're
very happy to have that.

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Already. Science

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01:06:44,790 --> 01:06:46,680
you've got karma. There

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01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:47,880
we go. Thank you very much.

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01:06:51,630 --> 01:06:57,210
Sir John Horner 348 ad from West
Valley, Mississippi. And I do

1122
01:06:57,210 --> 01:06:59,940
have a note from him. He sent a
check. He's now in Nairobi

1123
01:06:59,940 --> 01:07:04,290
United later, as John the
brewer. He's a brewer. And he

1124
01:07:04,290 --> 01:07:09,030
sent up a bottle of brew in a
half litre or something and it

1125
01:07:09,030 --> 01:07:14,940
was I just came in the mail with
a couple of cosies. It shows up

1126
01:07:14,940 --> 01:07:19,050
in the mailbox. And it's got
beer it's got late beer labels

1127
01:07:19,050 --> 01:07:22,200
all over everything. Nobody even
bats an eye. I know I've been

1128
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:26,310
he's sending me too. It's
illegal. But okay, well, you

1129
01:07:26,310 --> 01:07:29,190
know what's interesting, I
learned from Danny the drug

1130
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:32,400
dealer. You should learn from
dude from Guerrero. They'd

1131
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:32,880
mailman.

1132
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,090
Well, I'm gonna say this now and
he can weigh in. I learned from

1133
01:07:36,090 --> 01:07:40,470
Danny, the drug dealer that he
gets his stuff from California

1134
01:07:41,130 --> 01:07:44,190
is weed and they just send it
through your United States

1135
01:07:44,190 --> 01:07:48,690
postal system. And you know, he
told me how they wrap it and

1136
01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:52,500
everything and there's some
crazy new products is pure THC.

1137
01:07:53,580 --> 01:07:57,090
And you spray in your mouth and
there's and then you go and

1138
01:07:57,090 --> 01:08:00,240
there's toothpaste and you're
done. There's toothpicks, which

1139
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,440
have been saturated with THC.
There what there's toothpicks

1140
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,240
there's little things like Taco
Tuesday

1141
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:06,780
he's just Oh, that's

1142
01:08:06,780 --> 01:08:09,240
a great idea. Just put the
toothpick in your mouth and it's

1143
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:11,130
like a 20 milligramme dose

1144
01:08:11,730 --> 01:08:16,950
you know I thought it's
something as a product I don't

1145
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:20,820
know if we had a you know, ants
we had an invasion. You don't

1146
01:08:20,820 --> 01:08:24,570
say go like that back to back
them off by doing the burning

1147
01:08:24,570 --> 01:08:36,930
trick. But we were having dinner
and I got an ant somehow in the

1148
01:08:36,930 --> 01:08:39,240
meal and I ate it and

1149
01:08:41,370 --> 01:08:42,900
when did you realise you ate it?

1150
01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:44,579
Well once it was in my mouth

1151
01:08:44,610 --> 01:08:47,820
and then you just said screw it
and chopped it down is it tell

1152
01:08:47,820 --> 01:08:48,720
ya because nothing?

1153
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:52,920
I don't think there we discussed
this right now these things are

1154
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,010
peppery and everyone around the
table y'all y'all peppery

1155
01:08:56,010 --> 01:08:59,460
peppery answer peppery? And I
think my daughter you know she's

1156
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:05,850
she's he's grasshoppers. So I
was thinking if you do if you

1157
01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:10,140
desiccated a big pile of ants
and then ground them to a powder

1158
01:09:10,140 --> 01:09:15,780
like I find fine grind black
pepper. I wonder if that would

1159
01:09:15,780 --> 01:09:18,450
be something product uses the
spice product

1160
01:09:18,450 --> 01:09:22,500
and remember on the label what
does it say?

1161
01:09:24,779 --> 01:09:34,199
Ants small batch. Small batch
Exactly. Wouldn't be small batch

1162
01:09:34,199 --> 01:09:36,419
but I think that's an
interesting idea for a product

1163
01:09:36,419 --> 01:09:48,209
no agenda and seasoning. Bugs
instead of using your people who

1164
01:09:48,209 --> 01:09:52,079
ate chocolate covered ants and
all this nonsense is bold, use

1165
01:09:52,079 --> 01:09:52,199
it

1166
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,010
as a spice.

1167
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,810
Use it as a spice because that's
what

1168
01:09:54,810 --> 01:09:58,440
it is. Why don't you Well no,
it's an it's a row. It's a it's

1169
01:09:58,440 --> 01:10:01,470
an insect. It's not a spice. I'm
sure it's an insect

1170
01:10:01,740 --> 01:10:06,330
but it acts as a spice. Well
sure it's you don't know now

1171
01:10:06,330 --> 01:10:08,400
maybe it's a walking spice and

1172
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,480
think about it you can even go
so far as to have you know if

1173
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:16,440
you burn them with the with your
magnifying glass, then you can

1174
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:19,020
have toasted and spice.

1175
01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:22,170
Yes or roast roasted probably
present a different flavour

1176
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,700
roasted roasted. Nice Well could
you make some could you How do

1177
01:10:26,700 --> 01:10:29,880
you propose on grinding up do
you grind them out doing it raw

1178
01:10:29,910 --> 01:10:30,480
or do you grind

1179
01:10:30,780 --> 01:10:33,630
it to a food guys see if they
can manufacture and put into

1180
01:10:33,630 --> 01:10:34,740
play good right along

1181
01:10:34,740 --> 01:10:38,100
with vape your kale we've we are
on the tip of superfood, my

1182
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:38,550
friend.

1183
01:10:38,820 --> 01:10:44,250
We are with Jay Jamie let's go
back to John here. I am tithing

1184
01:10:44,250 --> 01:10:48,480
10% of my federal tax refund to
the best podcast and universe

1185
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:52,170
which should safely catapult me
into knighthood. And he's got

1186
01:10:52,890 --> 01:10:54,030
all the accounting

1187
01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:57,180
Wait a minute. I'm sorry did you
miss David Prince? I think you

1188
01:10:57,180 --> 01:10:59,280
did. Yeah,

1189
01:10:59,850 --> 01:11:05,850
go back today. Okay. He goes on
with his notes product sample he

1190
01:11:05,850 --> 01:11:09,210
got he says enclose a product
sample he's going to send you

1191
01:11:09,210 --> 01:11:12,960
one with that I'm humbly request
that moniker Sir John Brewer and

1192
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:17,340
the following three clips. This
one is you might want to put

1193
01:11:17,340 --> 01:11:20,520
this at the end of the show.
Okay. This is the Norman Lear

1194
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:27,870
foundation propaganda clip.
Obama Batman. And the hetero

1195
01:11:27,870 --> 01:11:29,700
flexible man jingle

1196
01:11:31,230 --> 01:11:35,400
Okay, hold on a second did
Norman Lear that's actually

1197
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,850
Martin Kaplan, I think and that
is yeah, it's about bragging

1198
01:11:38,850 --> 01:11:43,320
about the numbers I believe.
Yes. Okay, and then what's next?

1199
01:11:44,129 --> 01:11:48,059
Then it was the Obama Batman
that man No, no, no, no, no, no,

1200
01:11:48,059 --> 01:11:52,229
no, no, no, no, no, no, that one
okay. And I don't know about I

1201
01:11:52,229 --> 01:11:55,649
don't know what they had real
flexible man jingle is. Oh, I

1202
01:11:55,649 --> 01:12:01,829
do. Okay. That's what he says
thank you and me does have a PS

1203
01:12:01,859 --> 01:12:05,699
okay. He's a no, he's he's one
of our knights that are very

1204
01:12:05,729 --> 01:12:10,619
observant. Yes. They are very
observant. Yes, I know. P as

1205
01:12:10,619 --> 01:12:14,399
John I know, you cannot be
trusted to save beer for Adam.

1206
01:12:14,699 --> 01:12:19,139
So I sent him his own bottle.
That's right. I go podcasting.

1207
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:27,900
So in the course of our work,
this is in the two years 11 to

1208
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:35,670
13 335 storylines that we worked
on have been aired we've worked

1209
01:12:35,670 --> 01:12:41,190
with 35 networks in the past
four years 91 different

1210
01:12:41,190 --> 01:13:12,780
television shows no, no no no no
somebody give me an Apple TV.

1211
01:13:14,850 --> 01:13:17,400
You've got karma you

1212
01:13:17,820 --> 01:13:20,790
at the end so somebody get me an
appletini

1213
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:28,680
Great. That's good. Somebody
gave me an appletini

1214
01:13:29,250 --> 01:13:34,170
David Prince Colfax, California
456781 of my all time favourite

1215
01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:37,470
donation numbers Yeah, nice one
Keep up the good fight. I

1216
01:13:37,470 --> 01:13:40,050
believe this donation gets me to
knighthood if so I would like to

1217
01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:44,820
be known as Sir Boston Terrier
of the state of Jefferson and he

1218
01:13:44,820 --> 01:13:47,040
wants a NO NO NO NO NO of one
sort or another.

1219
01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:55,350
Okay. Oh, no, no, no No, no No,
no

1220
01:13:56,970 --> 01:14:06,060
no no, no no no no no no, no no
no no, no, no no no no no. No

1221
01:14:06,060 --> 01:14:10,200
no. Karma

1222
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,600
might be my favourite. Oh, I'll
put it the unknown many of these

1223
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,480
things. I will put at the end of
the show then for you. Chris

1224
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:25,020
Foster in Houston, Texas.
Houston. 424307 ITM great show

1225
01:14:25,020 --> 01:14:28,380
and congrats on 800 episodes. I
hope this donation helps with

1226
01:14:28,380 --> 01:14:31,500
the past eight hit post 800
Hangover. I have the following

1227
01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:34,470
jingle request. Sally Struthers
Bernie Sanders

1228
01:14:37,890 --> 01:14:39,450
was Susan Sarandon.

1229
01:14:39,810 --> 01:14:45,720
They said Sally Struthers which
is funnier, but yes it Susan

1230
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:51,270
Sarandon Sally Struthers Bernie
Sanders. Oh mg juice. Calm down

1231
01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:55,980
scream followed by divorce six.
Oh, thank you for your courage

1232
01:14:55,980 --> 01:14:56,700
Chris Foster.

1233
01:14:56,730 --> 01:14:59,610
Okay, so we have Sarandon
followed by what

1234
01:15:00,750 --> 01:15:04,620
Surrounded by Oh mg oh my god
that's it. Can you see that

1235
01:15:04,620 --> 01:15:09,210
juice? Yeah, yeah, calm down. I
don't know if there's a calm

1236
01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:11,790
down or not but he was also that
visible scream that we've

1237
01:15:11,790 --> 01:15:14,760
collected. Yes I have that I
have and then I'll play the

1238
01:15:15,300 --> 01:15:20,820
front of the thing I give you
Bernie Sanders. Oh my gosh. Can

1239
01:15:20,820 --> 01:15:27,450
you see that juice you've got

1240
01:15:27,630 --> 01:15:28,260
karma.

1241
01:15:28,950 --> 01:15:34,680
Nice. A bicoastal jingle medley
unbelievable dynamite. Are we

1242
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,560
good? Are we make it look, we
just make it look easy.

1243
01:15:38,430 --> 01:15:42,330
It's hard to imagine anyone
competing. I know. Sir Cliff

1244
01:15:42,330 --> 01:15:48,330
Howell in Spartanburg, South
Carolina 23456 And he writes a

1245
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,570
note Hi Bob and Ray says my
knighting this past November

1246
01:15:51,570 --> 01:15:55,620
I've noticed the air smells a
bit fresher. water tastes a

1247
01:15:55,620 --> 01:16:02,100
little cleaner. Adams Dutch
accent is even more hilarious. I

1248
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:04,920
realise these benefits come at a
price and obligations so please

1249
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,950
accept one of John's favourite
donation amounts of 23456 This

1250
01:16:07,950 --> 01:16:11,100
is in spite of buzzkill
slanderous attack on Thursday

1251
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:14,640
show against my adopted state of
South Carolina. I will admit

1252
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,280
South Carolina is far from
perfect, since we can't seem to

1253
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:22,290
get rid of a complete idiot like
Lindsey Graham, but the anti

1254
01:16:22,290 --> 01:16:26,610
semitic label was over the top.
However, I will always view your

1255
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,060
u fellows as the Donald Trump's
of the vast media wasteland you

1256
01:16:30,060 --> 01:16:32,370
say whatever you think without a
reservation or boundaries you

1257
01:16:32,370 --> 01:16:35,370
discuss a variety of topics no
one else would dare touch. You

1258
01:16:35,370 --> 01:16:38,340
say screw you to the advertisers
since you don't take their

1259
01:16:38,340 --> 01:16:41,640
money. And then you take some
additional shots at the audience

1260
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,420
for good measure. The producers
will continue their support for

1261
01:16:45,420 --> 01:16:47,970
at least another 800 episodes
with the exceptional content you

1262
01:16:47,970 --> 01:16:50,310
boys deliver as part of the best
podcast and universe go

1263
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:53,430
podcasting. Adam please send
karma to all the producers to

1264
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:56,130
the boners and send them a
double dose on Hillary cackle

1265
01:16:56,250 --> 01:17:02,730
because there is a special place
in hell for them you've got

1266
01:17:02,910 --> 01:17:03,570
karma

1267
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,010
okay, sorry I have to scroll
down

1268
01:17:14,250 --> 01:17:15,030
okay

1269
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:22,290
to a laser Martinez in flood
Florida and we have to South

1270
01:17:22,290 --> 01:17:26,010
Carolinians one after the other
that's my mistaken

1271
01:17:26,670 --> 01:17:30,060
Yes, you're right. That's reason
Florence

1272
01:17:30,060 --> 01:17:33,540
South Carolina. Well this There
you go. What else bad what other

1273
01:17:33,540 --> 01:17:38,790
bad things can I say about
another state? Maybe? There were

1274
01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:42,870
forgive pod father for I have
deuced Oh, it's so long since my

1275
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:46,170
last significant donation over
the last 14 months. shit hit the

1276
01:17:46,170 --> 01:17:49,110
fan not going into details but
health issues car repair paying

1277
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:52,050
for the funeral are part of it.
So before there's an encore, I

1278
01:17:52,050 --> 01:17:54,480
want to show my appreciation for
an outstanding product that

1279
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:58,320
stands the test of time. This
donation will put me at 600

1280
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,080
bucks I hope from now on do ya
do the wind in my favourite

1281
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,680
until I get the knighthood. Now
a few things one gas report.

1282
01:18:04,860 --> 01:18:10,440
South Carolina $1.39 cent
regular from known brand we

1283
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:14,700
have that here to 139 been cited
in Austin.

1284
01:18:15,060 --> 01:18:19,530
Nice. Generic gas is a few cents
cheaper, too. As somebody with a

1285
01:18:19,530 --> 01:18:22,140
science degree. I've always
known that consensus doesn't

1286
01:18:22,140 --> 01:18:26,160
mean shit, even if it's 97%.
Look up the story of Louis

1287
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,790
Pasteur demolish the scientific
concession consensus that

1288
01:18:29,790 --> 01:18:34,470
believed in the spontaneous
generation theory is, which is

1289
01:18:34,470 --> 01:18:38,250
true. When Bernie Sanders says
Gloria Steinem made him an

1290
01:18:38,250 --> 01:18:41,550
honorary woman he means she
pegged him hard with a strap on

1291
01:18:41,730 --> 01:18:42,510
pride on

1292
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,610
you know, there is edited well
hold on a second. There is some

1293
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:58,920
some Bernie schmear going on
about essays he's written in the

1294
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,390
past. I don't know

1295
01:19:00,540 --> 01:19:08,250
that. He said. He accepted it.
So it was his words when she did

1296
01:19:08,250 --> 01:19:11,220
it. Well, it's an interesting
theory. I have this again as an

1297
01:19:11,220 --> 01:19:13,650
example of something no other
show would bring up here it

1298
01:19:13,650 --> 01:19:16,830
is here it is a 1972. Bernie was
writing a piece that he called a

1299
01:19:16,830 --> 01:19:21,780
piece of fiction that he
described as the six sick sexual

1300
01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:25,410
fantasies of men and women. So
this is Bernie's words, quote, A

1301
01:19:25,410 --> 01:19:29,040
man goes home and masturbates
his typical fantasy. A woman on

1302
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,210
her knees, a woman tied up a
woman abused. A woman enjoys

1303
01:19:33,210 --> 01:19:36,480
intercourse with her man, and
she fantasises being raped by

1304
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:38,430
three men simultaneously.

1305
01:19:40,590 --> 01:19:41,580
Nice piece Bernie.

1306
01:19:42,540 --> 01:19:46,200
Bernie's got an active
imagination. I think somebody

1307
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:50,370
should read that in Bernie's
voice we need a Bernie copycat.

1308
01:19:50,370 --> 01:19:50,940
Oh,

1309
01:19:50,969 --> 01:19:54,359
yeah. We got a cup.

1310
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:55,500
I'm afraid to try it.

1311
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,860
No, no, you man goes home. No,
no, no,

1312
01:19:58,860 --> 01:20:01,560
I can't do it. Again over Oh
yeah, we'll leave it to

1313
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,640
the way we got hola Eliza
Eleazer Eleazer Eliza I'm not

1314
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:10,260
sure Martinez here he wants a
Can I get a whoopee I think it's

1315
01:20:10,260 --> 01:20:15,960
a he yeah can I get a whoopee
get out? Kids scream and a

1316
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:21,450
doctor Keerthi worth it yeah I
go on coincidence I point out to

1317
01:20:21,450 --> 01:20:27,330
Mr. or night sir being that this
is not a dead comment I did

1318
01:20:27,330 --> 01:20:31,950
delete jingle right and Howard
Dean scream Get out of my mind.

1319
01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:36,000
It wasn't worth it. It was worth
it

1320
01:20:38,340 --> 01:20:40,020
you've got karma

1321
01:20:42,900 --> 01:20:47,490
Scott Thompson in North
Tonawanda New York 22352 This

1322
01:20:47,490 --> 01:20:49,920
amount brings me to knighthood
I'm turning 34 Is he on the

1323
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,900
knight list? Because he's
apparently on the birthday list.

1324
01:20:51,990 --> 01:20:56,490
Let me see Scott Thompson. Sir
road Wolf. Okay, go ahead and

1325
01:20:56,490 --> 01:20:57,090
read this note.

1326
01:20:57,750 --> 01:21:03,540
And we wish to be sir road wolf
night of the tunnel Juanda

1327
01:21:03,540 --> 01:21:04,230
accounting

1328
01:21:05,370 --> 01:21:06,570
Tonawanda accounting.

1329
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:10,410
Oh no. He says though he knows a
tonne of wine vendor Juanda

1330
01:21:10,530 --> 01:21:12,900
accounting separate sentence
will be emailed.

1331
01:21:12,930 --> 01:21:15,540
We made a tonne of Juanda or
Tonawanda. US

1332
01:21:16,890 --> 01:21:21,090
Taiwan dossiers got Okay. Taiwan
does which I guess is that a

1333
01:21:21,090 --> 01:21:23,580
little mountain range with? What
is the tunnel one does?

1334
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,650
I have no idea. Well,

1335
01:21:25,650 --> 01:21:26,760
he's dumping them out.

1336
01:21:26,820 --> 01:21:27,900
I'm just the engineer.

1337
01:21:29,010 --> 01:21:34,170
I'm just an engineer. Jakob is
Who is he on the night list?

1338
01:21:34,410 --> 01:21:36,870
Yes, he is. Now Jakob is it's

1339
01:21:36,900 --> 01:21:38,820
your thing is Jacobus, Boris.

1340
01:21:41,100 --> 01:21:47,280
Boris Ma, I believe in New York,
New York, New York City. $200.

1341
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,980
Now however, halfway to
knighthood, he writes, I find it

1342
01:21:49,980 --> 01:21:53,520
impossible to overstate the
positive impact nogen has had on

1343
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,370
me, I've recently hit my
girlfriend in the mouth. And now

1344
01:21:56,370 --> 01:22:00,030
she seems to better understand
when I say evaluate the

1345
01:22:00,030 --> 01:22:02,250
situation at the meta level.

1346
01:22:02,910 --> 01:22:05,880
I believe you. Thank you.

1347
01:22:06,570 --> 01:22:09,630
Let's do you need to better line
John, help them out. These are

1348
01:22:09,630 --> 01:22:10,200
going to lose this

1349
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:13,620
weight the situation at the
middle of a better line. Okay, I

1350
01:22:13,620 --> 01:22:15,900
got one. Yeah, this is bullshit

1351
01:22:15,900 --> 01:22:21,090
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
go for jobs.

1352
01:22:24,570 --> 01:22:26,850
Currently interviewing for three
different positions. So now

1353
01:22:26,850 --> 01:22:30,120
that's a sutra, you can look at
that that'll help.

1354
01:22:30,540 --> 01:22:34,020
Webcam work is what I always
suggest to my daughter and

1355
01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:37,260
webcam work, you can make easy
money, you can make a good penny

1356
01:22:37,260 --> 01:22:40,080
that way. Now just wear a mask
or not.

1357
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,600
Thank you to our executive
producers and Associate

1358
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,690
Executive producers and a
massive big donor today. It's so

1359
01:22:45,690 --> 01:22:48,930
so appreciated. We will be
thanking everybody $50 or more.

1360
01:22:49,620 --> 01:22:52,170
In our segment. These of course,
are real credits. They count

1361
01:22:52,170 --> 01:22:54,690
wherever credits are accepted.
But even it doesn't even matter

1362
01:22:54,690 --> 01:22:57,150
if they're accepted. I just put
it on your IMDB, your LinkedIn.

1363
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,300
It does seem to work. And if
anyone ever questions it, we'll

1364
01:23:00,300 --> 01:23:03,300
be happy to vouch for you. And
of course, we'll have a show on

1365
01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:06,720
Sunday I will be in our Kansas,
somewhere in the woods

1366
01:23:06,750 --> 01:23:13,050
vora.org/and A Of course, we got
everybody to be doing the very

1367
01:23:13,050 --> 01:23:15,150
important work of propagating
our formula.

1368
01:23:15,420 --> 01:23:27,990
Our formula is this we go out
people in the mouth as citizens

1369
01:23:38,460 --> 01:23:40,470
yes, indeed, it'd be block.

1370
01:23:40,530 --> 01:23:47,820
Yeah, in the B Block. I would
like to. I'd like to talk about

1371
01:23:49,380 --> 01:23:52,860
what's going on with Apple, not
from a tech news perspective.

1372
01:23:53,670 --> 01:23:59,160
But undeniably, this has become
a very interesting topic. Call

1373
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,700
me this morning. And I think I
know I've been able to really

1374
01:24:02,700 --> 01:24:05,700
listen and really step back. I
wrote a blog post, which we

1375
01:24:05,700 --> 01:24:10,080
don't have to discard know if
you saw that or not know us to

1376
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:16,080
bed was the apple case, really
convenience versus privacy. But

1377
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:21,660
we've discussed all that. Tim
Cook did an interview with ABC.

1378
01:24:21,660 --> 01:24:26,310
I pulled a couple of quotes from
that. And there's just a lot of

1379
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:30,840
talk around the
constitutionality, legality, you

1380
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,950
know, Fourth Amendment, Fifth
Amendment. And it seems I'll

1381
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:38,250
give you I'll give you my
conclusion up front. At both

1382
01:24:38,250 --> 01:24:41,760
Apple and the FBI. I'm not so
sure about Department of

1383
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,990
Justice, but both Apple and FBI
pushing very hard to not solve

1384
01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:51,180
this in the Supreme Court but to
solve this in Congress. And

1385
01:24:51,180 --> 01:24:55,200
they're both saying that over
and over again. Which is

1386
01:24:55,230 --> 01:24:58,170
interesting to me, because if
you know the way Tim Cook is

1387
01:24:58,260 --> 01:25:00,330
just talking you think he wants
to take this out All the way to

1388
01:25:00,330 --> 01:25:03,060
the Supreme Court. That is not
true. This is from this morning.

1389
01:25:03,060 --> 01:25:08,520
This is Director of FBI, Jim
Comey. Where is he Comey? And

1390
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,010
just listen to his words, this
case,

1391
01:25:11,010 --> 01:25:13,380
and all cases are very, very
important. But there's a broader

1392
01:25:13,380 --> 01:25:17,940
policy question that is far
larger than any individual case

1393
01:25:17,940 --> 01:25:21,090
that we all have to grapple
with. But to the case, first, I

1394
01:25:21,090 --> 01:25:23,730
think the answer would best come
from a technical expert and a

1395
01:25:23,730 --> 01:25:25,320
good lawyer, I'm neither of
those.

1396
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:26,820
He may be a lawyer,

1397
01:25:26,820 --> 01:25:29,880
it's just not a good one. But I
will take a shot at it. I do

1398
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,600
think that it is potentially
whatever the judge's decision is

1399
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,720
in California, and I'm sure
it'll be appealed. No matter how

1400
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:40,500
it ends up, we'll be instructive
for other courts. And there may

1401
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:44,940
well be other cases that involve
the same kind of phone and the

1402
01:25:44,940 --> 01:25:48,210
same operating system. What the
experts have told me is the

1403
01:25:48,210 --> 01:25:50,580
combination here's where I'm
gonna get well out of my depth

1404
01:25:50,910 --> 01:25:54,750
of a five c, and this particular
operating system is sufficiently

1405
01:25:54,750 --> 01:25:58,920
unusual that it's unlikely to be
a trailblazer because of

1406
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,730
technolog technology being the
limiting principle, but sure, a

1407
01:26:02,730 --> 01:26:05,490
decision by a judge the judge
weighing a decision in Brooklyn

1408
01:26:05,490 --> 01:26:08,550
right now, all of those
decisions will guide how other

1409
01:26:08,550 --> 01:26:11,580
courts handle similar requests.
The All Writs Act, as you

1410
01:26:11,580 --> 01:26:14,850
mentioned, is a tool that I used
as a young prosecutor we've used

1411
01:26:14,850 --> 01:26:17,370
for hundreds of years so that
courts can have their orders

1412
01:26:17,370 --> 01:26:21,690
given effect, and how judges
interpret that in any particular

1413
01:26:21,690 --> 01:26:24,390
jurisdiction is not binding on
others, but will be important.

1414
01:26:24,390 --> 01:26:27,270
So I think that's fair to say.
But I do think the larger

1415
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:30,570
question is not going to be
answered in the courts and

1416
01:26:30,570 --> 01:26:33,120
shouldn't be because it's really
about who do we want to be as a

1417
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,890
country? How do we want to
govern ourselves?

1418
01:26:35,130 --> 01:26:39,870
Okay, now, this is important. He
says that we need to talk we

1419
01:26:39,870 --> 01:26:42,060
need to legislate this really is
what he's saying now put it in

1420
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:46,590
the courts, who do you want to
be as a people Apple was hired

1421
01:26:46,590 --> 01:26:50,340
Ted Olson, and Ted Olson is I
had not heard of him before, but

1422
01:26:50,340 --> 01:26:54,930
apparently superstar status in
in the legal world. And he was

1423
01:26:54,930 --> 01:27:01,170
on Fox Business News with the
Neil Cavuto. And it wasn't until

1424
01:27:01,170 --> 01:27:04,980
I heard because I was pretty
sure that this was a legal read,

1425
01:27:04,980 --> 01:27:09,330
it was a warrant to know we have
probable cause all the things

1426
01:27:09,330 --> 01:27:12,240
that you need are in this in
order for Apple to comply. But

1427
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:19,800
it wasn't until I heard Ted
Olson that I realised this is

1428
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,950
not about probable cause. And
therefore it is not going to be

1429
01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:24,210
a constitutional question.

1430
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:27,060
And I don't know how you could
possibly limit this to Senator

1431
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,270
Dino, because something could be
happening somewhere else, New

1432
01:27:30,270 --> 01:27:33,390
York, San Francisco everywhere.
So I'm gonna make the same

1433
01:27:33,390 --> 01:27:36,990
argument every time and
basically, you want to throw the

1434
01:27:37,020 --> 01:27:40,530
Constitution out, because if
someone says there's a threat

1435
01:27:40,530 --> 01:27:43,620
there, we're not even sure that
it exists. But if we want into

1436
01:27:43,620 --> 01:27:46,860
that phone, this phone or your
phone, whatever, just to make

1437
01:27:46,860 --> 01:27:48,330
sure, then you would throw

1438
01:27:49,650 --> 01:27:54,300
that is that hit me I'm like,
Oh, crap. It's absolutely right.

1439
01:27:54,300 --> 01:28:02,490
The the reasonable. What is not
reasonable suspicion? It's what

1440
01:28:02,490 --> 01:28:06,660
is it? John? I don't know.
Probable cause probable cause is

1441
01:28:06,660 --> 01:28:09,720
very powerful. It is probable
cause I think I actually looked

1442
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:14,760
it up just to give you part of
the the definition, but probable

1443
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:19,530
cause really can only be used
Hold on, I bring it up here. The

1444
01:28:19,530 --> 01:28:22,080
right of the people to be secure
in their persons how this is

1445
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,990
obviously the Fourth Amendment
against unreasonable search and

1446
01:28:24,990 --> 01:28:27,570
seizure. So now be involved in
no warrant shall issue but upon

1447
01:28:27,570 --> 01:28:30,630
probable cause, supported by
oath or affirmation and

1448
01:28:30,630 --> 01:28:33,300
particularly describing the
place to be searched and the

1449
01:28:33,300 --> 01:28:36,870
persons or things to be
searched. If you and I obviously

1450
01:28:36,870 --> 01:28:40,740
am not a lawyer, but probable
cause sufficient reason based

1451
01:28:40,770 --> 01:28:44,250
known fat sufficient reason
based upon known facts to

1452
01:28:44,250 --> 01:28:46,860
believe a crime has been
committed, or that certain

1453
01:28:46,860 --> 01:28:50,010
property is connected with a
crime probable cause must exist

1454
01:28:50,010 --> 01:28:52,890
for a law enforcement officer to
make an arrest without a

1455
01:28:52,890 --> 01:28:55,920
warrant, search without a
warrant or seize property in the

1456
01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:00,060
belief that the items are
evidence of a crime. The way I

1457
01:29:00,060 --> 01:29:05,190
interpret probable cause is if
we are disguised now he's dead.

1458
01:29:05,580 --> 01:29:08,970
And we know we know quote,
unquote, that he committed the

1459
01:29:08,970 --> 01:29:12,930
crime. So I think what is taking
place here is the thing this has

1460
01:29:12,930 --> 01:29:14,910
nothing to do with the Fourth
Amendment because you're just

1461
01:29:14,910 --> 01:29:17,580
fishing to see if there's
another crime possibly related

1462
01:29:17,580 --> 01:29:20,040
on this phone, which is not
probable cause.

1463
01:29:22,620 --> 01:29:25,320
That right, this is a classic
fishing expedition this

1464
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,830
and I didn't realise it until
this day until Ted Olson said

1465
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:33,090
screw you. This is no this isn't
there is no right because

1466
01:29:33,090 --> 01:29:35,760
probable cause does not apply
here.

1467
01:29:36,150 --> 01:29:38,550
Right there's probably some
phones that one of these guys

1468
01:29:38,550 --> 01:29:41,760
has supposed to be 100 or more
phones backed up yes and need to

1469
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,270
be cracked now but where there
might be probably a probable

1470
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:45,570
cause.

1471
01:29:45,599 --> 01:29:48,659
So now I'm Did you see the Tim
Cook ABC News interview with

1472
01:29:48,689 --> 01:29:49,169
Dave I

1473
01:29:49,230 --> 01:29:50,850
watched the beginning of it.
Okay.

1474
01:29:51,420 --> 01:29:56,250
I pulled a couple very short
quotes and Tim Collins. Tom Cook

1475
01:29:56,250 --> 01:30:01,230
is fantastic. For for quotes for
clips. He talks in, you know,

1476
01:30:01,230 --> 01:30:05,100
very staccato and make no
mistake. I think this guy is

1477
01:30:05,100 --> 01:30:08,610
ruthless. You know, I looked a
little bit at his history, you

1478
01:30:08,610 --> 01:30:12,420
know, he ran distribution. He's
been in the company for a while.

1479
01:30:14,070 --> 01:30:17,010
You know, these people as well,
John very, very, there was a guy

1480
01:30:17,010 --> 01:30:20,790
at Omnicom, who was the second
in command. I forget his name,

1481
01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:24,000
but he's like a hatchet guy.
Make no mistake, Tim Cook is

1482
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:28,440
very, very, very, I think he has
a lot in him to do anything he

1483
01:30:28,440 --> 01:30:34,740
wants. Now, knowing that we can
actually all have our devices

1484
01:30:34,740 --> 01:30:37,890
reasons, certainly our iOS
devices secure if you choose a

1485
01:30:37,890 --> 01:30:41,790
longer passphrase, we've talked
about that. Which in this in

1486
01:30:41,790 --> 01:30:44,880
this case, would really make it
difficult, if not impossible,

1487
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,960
for law enforcement agencies,
FBI and Department of Justice to

1488
01:30:49,050 --> 01:30:52,950
get in there and actually crack
open your phone, if you follow

1489
01:30:52,950 --> 01:30:56,520
those guidelines, but instead of
that, which is what I believe

1490
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,550
should be the education of the
American consumer or the Apple

1491
01:30:59,550 --> 01:31:02,400
consumer. Instead of saying,
Well, you can always protect

1492
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:07,200
yourself by this. Tim Cook goes
all out a half hour interview.

1493
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:11,460
And I think he is completely
disingenuous about about what is

1494
01:31:11,460 --> 01:31:14,520
going on and why they want to do
this. And it is my opinion,

1495
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,090
listen, and we'll go through a
couple of these clips, that they

1496
01:31:18,150 --> 01:31:23,640
may be with Steve Jobs dying
wish that Tim Cook promise, make

1497
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,420
sure the iPhone is secure for
everyone's data, make it the

1498
01:31:27,420 --> 01:31:32,040
secure device. So he's willing
to lie and position this in

1499
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:38,700
crazy ways. And this will come
to Congress. And that's his his

1500
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,730
mission as well. First, what is
at stake here?

1501
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:46,680
What what is at stake here is
can the government compel Apple

1502
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,430
to write software that we
believe would make hundreds of

1503
01:31:50,430 --> 01:31:54,060
millions of customers vulnerable
around the world, including the

1504
01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:58,950
US and also trample civil
liberties that are at the basic

1505
01:31:58,950 --> 01:32:01,770
foundation of what this country
was made on? Okay, so

1506
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,370
he's not talking about
constitutionality. He's talking

1507
01:32:05,370 --> 01:32:08,910
about trampling civil liberties,
which is a little different from

1508
01:32:08,910 --> 01:32:15,150
constitutional rights. And he
introduces a new meme. Before we

1509
01:32:15,150 --> 01:32:18,390
had, what would he say about
about doing this, it would be

1510
01:32:18,780 --> 01:32:23,370
way said backdoor, he said all
kinds of different themes. But

1511
01:32:23,370 --> 01:32:28,200
now this software that the court
wants Apple to create has a new

1512
01:32:28,590 --> 01:32:29,430
analogy,

1513
01:32:29,460 --> 01:32:32,790
the only way to get information,
at least currently, the only way

1514
01:32:32,790 --> 01:32:36,840
we know would be to write a
piece of software that we view

1515
01:32:36,870 --> 01:32:40,920
as sort of the software
equivalent of cancer, we think

1516
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,220
it's bad news to write, we would
never write it, we have never

1517
01:32:44,220 --> 01:32:46,950
written it. And that is what is
at stake here.

1518
01:32:47,370 --> 01:32:52,740
This is new. This software would
be like cancer, they sat around

1519
01:32:52,740 --> 01:32:55,500
and dream that one out. And he
repeated a couple times. Here he

1520
01:32:55,500 --> 01:32:56,190
is again, and in

1521
01:32:56,190 --> 01:32:59,070
this document are some things
that just should never be

1522
01:32:59,070 --> 01:32:59,610
created.

1523
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:06,060
Correct. Think about this. It is
in our view, the software

1524
01:33:06,060 --> 01:33:09,150
equivalent of cancer. There you
go. Is this something that

1525
01:33:09,150 --> 01:33:10,140
should be created?

1526
01:33:10,260 --> 01:33:15,060
Okay. And then we have him doing
that yet? Again, let me see,

1527
01:33:15,060 --> 01:33:17,190
where is it here?

1528
01:33:17,220 --> 01:33:21,870
We had no other information on
the spot? None. The only way we

1529
01:33:21,870 --> 01:33:25,020
know to get additional
information is to write a piece

1530
01:33:25,020 --> 01:33:28,920
of software. That is the
software equivalent of cancer.

1531
01:33:29,070 --> 01:33:30,780
That is what is at stake here.

1532
01:33:30,810 --> 01:33:33,780
He said it three times three
times in the interview. Yes,

1533
01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:38,250
that's crazy. Well, because this
is very, very managed. Okay,

1534
01:33:38,250 --> 01:33:42,180
here at NAB now he's this very
interesting. I'm not quite sure

1535
01:33:42,180 --> 01:33:43,560
why he brings his group in

1536
01:33:43,590 --> 01:33:46,200
the new Reuters poll just today
showing nearly half understand

1537
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,420
where you're coming from. But
this is clearly a country

1538
01:33:48,420 --> 01:33:51,510
divided on this. What do you say
to the folks who say, folks, you

1539
01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:53,520
should write that software, you
should help unlock the phone?

1540
01:33:53,610 --> 01:33:57,630
Well, this, this is not about a
poll. This is about the future.

1541
01:33:57,660 --> 01:34:00,510
It's about the future. John,
hold on, as I can sit down, take

1542
01:34:00,510 --> 01:34:01,410
notes, and what I

1543
01:34:01,410 --> 01:34:05,760
have seen as people understand
what is at stake here, and

1544
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:09,570
increasing numbers support us.
We've had we have support from

1545
01:34:09,570 --> 01:34:13,560
politicians, to the ones that
grabbed me the most I've gotten

1546
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:17,970
1000s of emails since this
occurred. And the largest single

1547
01:34:17,970 --> 01:34:21,150
category people are from the
military. These are men and

1548
01:34:21,150 --> 01:34:21,900
women. This is

1549
01:34:21,900 --> 01:34:24,210
very interesting. This is really
interesting. Do you think that's

1550
01:34:24,210 --> 01:34:26,700
true? The largest i

1551
01:34:27,150 --> 01:34:30,720
It's possible. But I also think
that if you're in the military,

1552
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:32,940
they probably have all kinds of
provisions about you know how

1553
01:34:32,940 --> 01:34:38,220
you can not protect your data or
protected a certain way. I think

1554
01:34:38,220 --> 01:34:39,810
he's making some of this stuff
up fight

1555
01:34:39,810 --> 01:34:44,010
for our freedom and our liberty,
and they want us to stand up and

1556
01:34:44,010 --> 01:34:47,010
be counted on this issue for
them. Are you reading those

1557
01:34:47,010 --> 01:34:49,410
letters, those emails every day,
I'm reading every one of their

1558
01:34:49,410 --> 01:34:57,060
oil. Grab emotions. This is this
is our country. This country is

1559
01:34:57,060 --> 01:35:00,600
about life and liberty and the
pursuit of happiness. So it's

1560
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,630
about freedom of expression and
freedom of speech. These are

1561
01:35:03,630 --> 01:35:05,700
core principles of America, none
of

1562
01:35:05,700 --> 01:35:09,270
which apply to your particular
instance, your particular case.

1563
01:35:09,690 --> 01:35:12,120
And let's continue, David, if

1564
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:17,040
we knew a way to get the
information on the phone that we

1565
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:20,880
haven't already given, if we
knew a way to do this, that

1566
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:24,570
would not expose hundreds of
millions of other people issues,

1567
01:35:24,810 --> 01:35:29,430
we would obviously do it. But
again, this is not about one

1568
01:35:29,430 --> 01:35:31,680
phone. This is about the future.

1569
01:35:33,060 --> 01:35:36,270
So we went from civil liberties
to it's about the future. It's

1570
01:35:36,270 --> 01:35:40,620
about Apple's future. And I
agree with Tim Cook now. But I

1571
01:35:40,620 --> 01:35:43,200
think he's right that they
should not be forced to do this.

1572
01:35:43,380 --> 01:35:46,620
But you're being disingenuous.
Tim Collins Cook, you're being

1573
01:35:46,620 --> 01:35:47,700
very disingenuous, I

1574
01:35:47,700 --> 01:35:53,460
don't know where this stops. But
I do know that this is not, this

1575
01:35:53,460 --> 01:35:56,850
is not what should be happening
in this country. This is not

1576
01:35:56,850 --> 01:36:00,030
what should be happening in
America, if there should be a

1577
01:36:00,030 --> 01:36:04,410
law that compels us to do it, it
should be passed out in the

1578
01:36:04,410 --> 01:36:08,280
open. And the people of America
should get a voice in that the

1579
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,100
right place for that debate to
occur is in Congress.

1580
01:36:11,130 --> 01:36:15,270
This is very interesting. Here,
we have both sides, saying this

1581
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:17,250
is not for the court to decide,
because it's not a

1582
01:36:17,250 --> 01:36:21,630
constitutional issue. This is
for Congress to decide. He wants

1583
01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:25,560
legislation called me once
legislation. The Apple has done

1584
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,950
this in the past before they
protected their their lock,

1585
01:36:28,950 --> 01:36:32,580
which they can clearly unlock.
In fact, he's very disingenuous

1586
01:36:32,580 --> 01:36:35,190
about what really is the master
key,

1587
01:36:35,220 --> 01:36:38,910
we our job is to protect our
customers. Okay,

1588
01:36:38,910 --> 01:36:42,060
that's all there you go. That's
the quote, all he cares about is

1589
01:36:42,090 --> 01:36:47,130
is Apple customers. And that's
not that's not a bad thing, but

1590
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,050
don't bullshit around we,

1591
01:36:49,110 --> 01:36:53,250
our job is to protect our
customers. And our customers

1592
01:36:53,250 --> 01:36:56,640
have incredibly detailed
information in their phones,

1593
01:36:56,850 --> 01:37:00,420
there's probably more
information about you, on your

1594
01:37:00,420 --> 01:37:02,490
phone than there is in your
house. Think about the

1595
01:37:02,490 --> 01:37:05,640
children's smartphones are
loaded with our intimate

1596
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:09,000
conversations, our financial
data, our health records,

1597
01:37:09,210 --> 01:37:12,690
they're also loaded with the
location of our kids in many

1598
01:37:12,690 --> 01:37:16,740
cases. And so it's not just
about privacy, but it's also

1599
01:37:16,740 --> 01:37:20,220
about public safety. No one
would want this kind of

1600
01:37:20,220 --> 01:37:24,900
information to be available. No
one, no one I don't believe,

1601
01:37:25,140 --> 01:37:29,670
would want a master key built,
that would turn hundreds of

1602
01:37:29,670 --> 01:37:34,530
millions of locks. Even if that
key were in the possession of

1603
01:37:34,530 --> 01:37:38,460
the person that you trust the
most that can can be stolen.

1604
01:37:38,790 --> 01:37:40,500
That is what this is about.

1605
01:37:40,530 --> 01:37:43,800
So here, okay, that is what this
is about stealing the key

1606
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:49,500
really, you have the key. Apple
owns the master key to putting

1607
01:37:49,500 --> 01:37:53,190
software on their devices. It
has an encryption key, they own

1608
01:37:53,190 --> 01:37:56,700
it already. That is what they
would have to use to make this

1609
01:37:56,730 --> 01:38:00,750
thing work on one device. So to
say no one wants a master key.

1610
01:38:00,750 --> 01:38:04,800
Oh, it's so dangerous to have
that is bull crap, bull crap.

1611
01:38:05,010 --> 01:38:09,120
This guy is either in cahoots.
And they're driving this to come

1612
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:13,200
up with legislation. But there's
just no either or is it he wants

1613
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:17,160
to have some kind of law to make
them to make apple be the number

1614
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,580
one secure place for all your
data. This is what this is the

1615
01:38:20,580 --> 01:38:23,820
marketing that the Department of
Justice has complained about.

1616
01:38:23,820 --> 01:38:24,120
This is

1617
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,970
about protecting the safety of
the people who carry those

1618
01:38:26,970 --> 01:38:27,750
iPhones. That's

1619
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:30,120
exactly right. That's all

1620
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,780
that it's about. Is this like a
giant infomercial? Oh, yeah. Oh,

1621
01:38:33,780 --> 01:38:36,000
yeah. And that's one of the
reasons I didn't watch it,

1622
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,220
because it just seemed like a
perfect. I've seen this thing

1623
01:38:38,220 --> 01:38:40,560
since the beginning. I've
considered nothing but a

1624
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,060
publicity stunt for Apple.

1625
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,330
I concur. And I want to continue
with three more clips just to

1626
01:38:45,420 --> 01:38:46,740
get it all out. This is

1627
01:38:46,740 --> 01:38:51,030
not something that we would
create. This is this would be

1628
01:38:51,030 --> 01:38:55,170
bad for America, it would also
set a precedent that I believe

1629
01:38:55,170 --> 01:38:58,710
many people in America would be
offended by. And so when you

1630
01:38:58,710 --> 01:39:03,240
think about those, which are
knowns compared to something

1631
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:08,190
that might be there. I believe
we are making the right choice.

1632
01:39:11,220 --> 01:39:15,870
Okay, then we have oh, yes. So
finally, about three quarters

1633
01:39:15,870 --> 01:39:18,810
away through the interview, he
brings up encryption, which

1634
01:39:18,810 --> 01:39:21,690
really doesn't have anything to
do with what they're being asked

1635
01:39:21,690 --> 01:39:21,990
to do.

1636
01:39:22,020 --> 01:39:25,830
This is about civil liberties,
and is about people's ability to

1637
01:39:25,830 --> 01:39:27,090
protect themselves.

1638
01:39:27,570 --> 01:39:33,120
Wow, I like this. So we're all
going to be for Apple, creating

1639
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,930
something so that we can protect
ourselves but doesn't go the

1640
01:39:36,930 --> 01:39:37,890
same for guns.

1641
01:39:37,950 --> 01:39:42,780
If we take encryption away from
the good people. The only people

1642
01:39:42,810 --> 01:39:45,810
are going away. The only people
that will be affected are the

1643
01:39:45,810 --> 01:39:48,090
good people, not the bad people.

1644
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,610
And this is a specious argument
because it's not about their

1645
01:39:50,610 --> 01:39:51,180
encryption,

1646
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:54,960
encryption. Apple doesn't own
encryption. Encryption is

1647
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,750
readily available in every
country in the world. As a

1648
01:39:57,750 --> 01:40:00,600
matter of fact, the US
government sponsored Then funds

1649
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:05,220
encryption in many cases. And so
if we limit it in some way, the

1650
01:40:05,220 --> 01:40:09,720
people that will hurt are the
good people, not the bad people,

1651
01:40:09,750 --> 01:40:12,660
they will find it anyway. Just

1652
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,880
what is the ABC doing to give
this guy a half an hour of this

1653
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:18,780
blather? I

1654
01:40:18,780 --> 01:40:22,650
will add that he started off and
they're in Tim Cook's office on

1655
01:40:22,650 --> 01:40:24,780
the campus. And it's like, wow,
I don't think we've ever done

1656
01:40:24,780 --> 01:40:28,080
it. I've never done an interview
from my office. Because he has

1657
01:40:28,110 --> 01:40:31,050
there is this is a script. This
is a setup. This is something

1658
01:40:31,050 --> 01:40:34,860
that I'm not quite sure what
side all the actors are on. But

1659
01:40:34,860 --> 01:40:39,330
their idea is to get
legislation. This is about

1660
01:40:39,330 --> 01:40:42,450
creating laws has nothing to do
with the Constitution. I'm now

1661
01:40:42,450 --> 01:40:45,090
realising. Here's another little
data point.

1662
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,390
This isn't just about privacy,
although it's very important.

1663
01:40:48,540 --> 01:40:50,340
It's also about public safety.

1664
01:40:51,750 --> 01:40:55,560
Public Safety, isn't theirs. I
don't think there's anything in

1665
01:40:55,560 --> 01:41:00,690
the Constitution that says you
have a right to public safety. I

1666
01:41:00,690 --> 01:41:05,190
can't recall is outrageous. Now.
Here we go. So now he's really

1667
01:41:05,190 --> 01:41:08,370
getting now we're winding it up.
He's getting to we need we need

1668
01:41:08,370 --> 01:41:10,140
laws. We want a law, we want a
law,

1669
01:41:10,169 --> 01:41:13,259
you can imagine the target that
would be on that that pays, I'm

1670
01:41:13,259 --> 01:41:16,529
not saying government would
abuse it. I don't I don't agree

1671
01:41:16,679 --> 01:41:19,379
that going case by case is the
right approach. But there's a

1672
01:41:19,379 --> 01:41:20,639
lot of bad guys in the Wait a

1673
01:41:20,639 --> 01:41:22,649
minute. Wait a minute. I didn't
hear that the first time. What

1674
01:41:22,649 --> 01:41:26,339
did he just say? I don't agree
that doing a case by case is the

1675
01:41:26,339 --> 01:41:29,729
right approach. Right. So are
you saying it should be massive,

1676
01:41:29,729 --> 01:41:33,209
like on a mass scale? Yeah,
pulled on case by case is the

1677
01:41:33,209 --> 01:41:36,239
one we just wow. Let's just roll
this back a second. I don't

1678
01:41:36,239 --> 01:41:38,069
think he meant to say that, as
you can imagine

1679
01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:40,740
the target that would be on that
that piece? I'm not saying

1680
01:41:40,740 --> 01:41:44,280
government would abuse it. I
don't I don't agree that going

1681
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:48,630
case by case is the right
approach. Okay, there's a lot of

1682
01:41:48,630 --> 01:41:49,620
bad guys in the world.

1683
01:41:50,250 --> 01:41:53,700
Wow, he did a lot of bad he did
a Ted Cruz. There's a lot of bad

1684
01:41:53,700 --> 01:41:54,060
guys,

1685
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:57,240
the bad guys, guys. And you
don't need to look further than

1686
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,990
what has happened to our own
government. Millions of people

1687
01:42:00,990 --> 01:42:05,490
have had their personal
information stolen by hackers.

1688
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:09,870
So we don't want it piece by
piece. I'm concerned about him

1689
01:42:09,870 --> 01:42:12,870
saying that. So he thinks that
maybe or maybe the legislation

1690
01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:16,080
he wants is not piece by piece?
Maybe it is something a little

1691
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:18,810
broader. That's very confusing.
He should have to answer for

1692
01:42:18,810 --> 01:42:19,260
that. What's

1693
01:42:19,260 --> 01:42:25,500
at stake here is should we be
compelled to write software that

1694
01:42:25,500 --> 01:42:30,090
we believe would make vulnerable
hundreds of millions of people

1695
01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:34,440
and trample on civil liberties?
That is what is at stake? And

1696
01:42:34,440 --> 01:42:37,140
the heartwarming emails I'm
getting from military. There he

1697
01:42:37,140 --> 01:42:40,500
goes, again, holy Smith, from
all across America tells me

1698
01:42:40,500 --> 01:42:44,340
there's a fair number of people
from podcasters that believe as

1699
01:42:44,340 --> 01:42:49,050
we do, and even the people that
don't believe that in our

1700
01:42:49,050 --> 01:42:53,670
democracy, this should be out in
the open and discuss legislated

1701
01:42:53,670 --> 01:42:57,570
not under some kind of, you
know, done in the back room

1702
01:42:57,570 --> 01:42:58,170
somewhere.

1703
01:42:59,220 --> 01:43:00,900
Nobody listens to C span.

1704
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,480
We were promised all of that
stuff a long time ago. So the

1705
01:43:06,480 --> 01:43:08,550
obvious question, will you take
it to the Supreme Court? If you

1706
01:43:08,550 --> 01:43:10,590
have to? Are you prepared to
take this all the way to the

1707
01:43:10,590 --> 01:43:11,250
Supreme Court?

1708
01:43:11,790 --> 01:43:15,300
We would be prepared to take
this issue all the way.

1709
01:43:16,410 --> 01:43:18,210
He says all the way doesn't say
all the way to the Supreme

1710
01:43:18,210 --> 01:43:23,820
Court. But he says all the way.
So

1711
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:30,060
generally speaking, when you
have a CEO of a mega company, is

1712
01:43:30,090 --> 01:43:34,200
that has anything to do with
technology. The only reason they

1713
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:38,760
want to do any of this stuff is
for liability issues. Okay, and

1714
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:41,880
I suspect that there's somebody
one of their lawyers and apples

1715
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:45,270
always had some of the best
lawyers or 10. Case in point

1716
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:49,620
here, he had them all the tech
companies. anybody remembers the

1717
01:43:49,620 --> 01:43:58,200
Franklin computer? Is there's
somebody has uncovered is theory

1718
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:01,560
this? What is the phrase I
should be using? It's

1719
01:44:02,700 --> 01:44:07,590
discovered? No, it's, it's, I
can wow,

1720
01:44:07,620 --> 01:44:10,500
you pull an atom that's pretty
that's rarely anatomist.

1721
01:44:12,270 --> 01:44:15,390
This is there's something
somebody discovered that has

1722
01:44:15,390 --> 01:44:18,660
that came up in the conversation
during this this process of

1723
01:44:18,660 --> 01:44:21,480
having a crack this phone,
saying, you know, we could be

1724
01:44:21,480 --> 01:44:26,880
liable if something like this
happens, and as a day we can be

1725
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:30,180
sued, because we made these
promises. And they do they make

1726
01:44:30,180 --> 01:44:33,090
all these promises? Yes. But as
a security and all the rest of

1727
01:44:33,090 --> 01:44:38,460
it. We need to get legislation
that holds us blameless and

1728
01:44:38,460 --> 01:44:41,370
harmless. It's got to be in
there. We'll just get this

1729
01:44:41,370 --> 01:44:43,500
legislation of some sort. We
don't care what it is, but we

1730
01:44:43,500 --> 01:44:46,110
got to get it in there because
we're, we're sitting on a powder

1731
01:44:46,110 --> 01:44:46,800
keg here.

1732
01:44:47,100 --> 01:44:50,100
I like that, John. I like that
theory a lot. In fact, I will

1733
01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:53,310
read you the marketing from
Apple's

1734
01:44:54,060 --> 01:44:56,850
security. By the way, I'm citing
no proof.

1735
01:44:57,510 --> 01:45:00,000
That's cool. Okay, but I'll cite
some proof. This is from Apple

1736
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,880
As marketing, it also shows up
in their legal process

1737
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:07,500
guidelines, the same language,
the on devices running iOS eight

1738
01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:09,630
and later versions, your
personal data is placed on the

1739
01:45:09,630 --> 01:45:12,570
protection of your passcode. For
all devices running iOS eight

1740
01:45:12,570 --> 01:45:16,890
and later versions, Apple will
not perform iOS data extractions

1741
01:45:16,890 --> 01:45:19,590
in response to government
warrants, because the files to

1742
01:45:19,590 --> 01:45:23,190
be extracted are protected by an
encryption key that is tied to

1743
01:45:23,190 --> 01:45:28,380
the user's passcode, which Apple
does not possess. Which so they

1744
01:45:28,380 --> 01:45:31,620
kind of put a statement out
saying, and this is 2014. I

1745
01:45:31,620 --> 01:45:36,630
think we can't do this anymore.
And and you know, what, the

1746
01:45:36,630 --> 01:45:40,260
whoever and FBI whoever came up
with this concept of how to do

1747
01:45:40,260 --> 01:45:44,610
it should be congratulated.
Because they exposed a huge

1748
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:45,660
vulnerability,

1749
01:45:45,990 --> 01:45:48,630
the actual data, you need to hit
an apple noses. This is what

1750
01:45:48,630 --> 01:45:50,610
came up in the conversation and
mice, the lawyer and

1751
01:45:50,610 --> 01:45:54,360
when you say this leash? And
when you say, yes, yes, when you

1752
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:58,770
state that? Yeah, I think
that's, you know, to say that we

1753
01:45:58,770 --> 01:46:02,790
can get it your day. And now,
it's, it all depends on the

1754
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:03,810
interpretation.

1755
01:46:06,540 --> 01:46:08,220
They don't need a million
lawsuits.

1756
01:46:09,450 --> 01:46:12,780
No, nobody needs that. could be
it could be a class action of

1757
01:46:12,780 --> 01:46:13,770
epic proportions.

1758
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:19,860
Anyway, and are so paranoid that
lawyers at Apple are so

1759
01:46:19,860 --> 01:46:22,590
paranoid, I could just imagine
them saying, Oh, my God, this is

1760
01:46:22,650 --> 01:46:24,270
putting the company at risk.

1761
01:46:24,540 --> 01:46:28,560
Yeah. But I think that, again,
if you just look at the

1762
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:34,050
simplicity of it, I like my
iPhone eight is now reasonably

1763
01:46:34,050 --> 01:46:38,430
secure, because I'm using a 12,
character passphrase. But even

1764
01:46:38,430 --> 01:46:41,070
if Apple creates this thing,
it's not going to be that easy.

1765
01:46:41,070 --> 01:46:44,700
As far as we know, before anyone
to crack my phone, even if they

1766
01:46:44,700 --> 01:46:50,580
have, even if they can bypass.
The hurdles apples put in there,

1767
01:46:50,580 --> 01:46:55,710
it could take hundreds of years
to get my to really do open up

1768
01:46:55,710 --> 01:46:59,100
my encryption. But that's not
being said no one is educating

1769
01:46:59,100 --> 01:47:05,700
the public. I don't understand.
I fully don't understand. I just

1770
01:47:05,730 --> 01:47:10,530
I don't understand why everybody
doesn't see the the craziness of

1771
01:47:10,530 --> 01:47:15,180
this, of the arguments being
made. The devices are perfectly

1772
01:47:15,180 --> 01:47:17,160
secure. If you know what you're
doing. And you have some

1773
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:19,920
education, and they have
everything in there. But they

1774
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:23,970
want something in Congress, they
want legislation. And it could

1775
01:47:23,970 --> 01:47:28,830
be the apples protecting the
downside on liability. But man,

1776
01:47:28,860 --> 01:47:32,280
I mean, apples have lots of
lawsuits. But this is going so

1777
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:35,310
far. It seems like that's the
only thing I'd come up with is

1778
01:47:35,310 --> 01:47:37,980
that Steve Jobs and his dying
breath said Hey, Hey, Tim

1779
01:47:37,980 --> 01:47:43,410
Collins, come over here. Make
sure that no one that the data

1780
01:47:43,410 --> 01:47:47,340
for our customers is 100% secure
that no government I'm pretty

1781
01:47:47,340 --> 01:47:50,130
sure Steve Jobs kept the
government out of Apple while he

1782
01:47:50,130 --> 01:47:54,840
was alive. And maybe that maybe
that was it?

1783
01:47:55,860 --> 01:47:58,560
Well, they got back in we after
he died. That's for sure.

1784
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:03,840
Because it showed up in this in
the all the different WikiLeaks

1785
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:11,040
and what's his name in Russia
stuff. Snowden? Yeah, Snowden.

1786
01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:13,380
Who's the real problem here.

1787
01:48:13,469 --> 01:48:17,519
So I just want to replay a
little little piece of this clip

1788
01:48:17,519 --> 01:48:23,969
from from Thursday to Sunday
show by Tim Cook using the the

1789
01:48:23,969 --> 01:48:28,499
Gay Agenda to further his his
mission,

1790
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:34,230
people have entrusted us with
their most personal and precious

1791
01:48:34,230 --> 01:48:41,700
information. We owe them nothing
less than the best protections

1792
01:48:42,090 --> 01:48:47,760
that we can possibly provide. By
harnessing the technology at our

1793
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:52,470
disposal, and working together
as businesses, governments and

1794
01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:56,430
citizens we believe we can bring
about a future

1795
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,400
that is kind of the definition
of fascism isn't it and he wants

1796
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:01,140
to work with the government to
create

1797
01:49:02,250 --> 01:49:12,120
fully embraces both privacy and
security we must get this right

1798
01:49:13,050 --> 01:49:18,750
okay. This is a little more eco
slow it down a bit. We got

1799
01:49:18,750 --> 01:49:19,410
another winner

1800
01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:24,240
okay. Oh, well, I combo combo
because I'm going to play a clip

1801
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:25,920
from Family Guy right after this

1802
01:49:25,950 --> 01:49:31,530
history has shown us that
sacrificing our right to privacy

1803
01:49:31,530 --> 01:49:33,750
your right this has grabbed
going to totally produce that

1804
01:49:33,750 --> 01:49:34,350
nailed it

1805
01:49:35,220 --> 01:49:42,720
can have dire consequences. We
still live in a world where all

1806
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:50,880
people are not treated equally.
Too many people do not feel free

1807
01:49:51,150 --> 01:49:58,920
to practice their religion or
express their opinion or love

1808
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:07,380
who they choose They are love
who they choose a world in which

1809
01:50:07,380 --> 01:50:13,860
that information can make the
difference between life and

1810
01:50:13,860 --> 01:50:14,280
death.

1811
01:50:15,870 --> 01:50:20,310
Ooh, trick or treaters. Well,
what do we have here? A cowboy

1812
01:50:20,340 --> 01:50:27,750
and a princess? Up, Kay, Mr.
Mayor, oh, Western princess.

1813
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:28,410
Alright, listen,

1814
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:31,860
we want that drink and log gone.
And everybody knows the best way

1815
01:50:31,860 --> 01:50:34,830
to get any last struck down is
to get the gays angry about it.

1816
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:37,680
Yeah, I saw that one.

1817
01:50:39,630 --> 01:50:41,940
Bill Gates had an interesting
take. I don't know if I added to

1818
01:50:41,940 --> 01:50:43,110
this properly. Those see

1819
01:50:43,260 --> 01:50:48,390
is Apple rights to be
challenging the FBIs Request to

1820
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:50,250
open a back door to its funds.

1821
01:50:51,270 --> 01:50:56,160
Well, the there's no doubt Apple
can make this information

1822
01:50:56,220 --> 01:51:01,470
available. And I don't think
there's any doubt that when the

1823
01:51:01,620 --> 01:51:03,360
courts eventually rule

1824
01:51:03,390 --> 01:51:06,240
also talking about he talks
about the courts not about

1825
01:51:06,270 --> 01:51:07,020
Congress

1826
01:51:07,050 --> 01:51:10,800
that they'll follow whatever the
court says to do.

1827
01:51:12,540 --> 01:51:14,310
Citing No, no opinion,

1828
01:51:14,790 --> 01:51:18,780
writing nothing out of his ass,
he has a good line

1829
01:51:18,780 --> 01:51:23,160
you want the government to be
blind on one hand? Or if it's

1830
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:28,740
not blind, is it have the right
safeguards? How that information

1831
01:51:28,770 --> 01:51:33,540
when it's acquired and how it's
used, that's assessed to debate,

1832
01:51:34,380 --> 01:51:38,310
in my view, the benefits to the
government, being able to

1833
01:51:38,310 --> 01:51:44,640
enforce taxation, being able to
stop crime, particular things

1834
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:50,010
like terrorism with nuclear
weapons or biological means,

1835
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:54,840
which means a very few number of
people are given by innovation,

1836
01:51:54,840 --> 01:52:00,210
the ability to affect millions
or billions. And I hope that we

1837
01:52:00,210 --> 01:52:04,380
can have that debate so that the
safeguards are built, so people

1838
01:52:04,380 --> 01:52:09,780
don't opt. And it'll be country
by country, that, hey, it's

1839
01:52:09,780 --> 01:52:14,730
better off that the government
doesn't access any information.

1840
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:16,200
Would you? Would you

1841
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:19,800
support a backdoor into
Microsoft phones, Google phones,

1842
01:52:19,830 --> 01:52:22,050
Apple phones as a general
principle?

1843
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:25,950
Normally, nobody's talking about
a backdoor that they so that's

1844
01:52:25,950 --> 01:52:29,760
not the right question. This is
a specific case, where the

1845
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:33,150
government's asking for access
to information. They're not

1846
01:52:33,150 --> 01:52:39,000
asking for some general thing.
They're asking for a particular

1847
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:39,630
case.

1848
01:52:39,810 --> 01:52:42,660
But is Apple right to say that a
backdoor once created in one

1849
01:52:42,660 --> 01:52:45,660
case is a backdoor that can be
used in the future?

1850
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:50,940
Apple has access to the the
information that's on there.

1851
01:52:51,540 --> 01:52:54,510
They're just refusing to provide
the access, and the courts will

1852
01:52:54,510 --> 01:52:57,150
tell them whether to provide the
access or not. You shouldn't

1853
01:52:57,150 --> 01:53:00,450
call access some special thing.
It's no different than, you

1854
01:53:00,450 --> 01:53:03,780
know, should have anybody ever
been able to tell the phone

1855
01:53:03,780 --> 01:53:07,260
company to get information bank
records? should anybody be able

1856
01:53:07,260 --> 01:53:10,080
to get it at bank records?
There's no There's no difference

1857
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,320
between information the
government's come asking for a

1858
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:18,090
specific set of information. And
it let you know, let's say the

1859
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,990
the bank had tied a ribbon
around the disk drive and they

1860
01:53:21,990 --> 01:53:26,010
say oh, don't make me cut this
ribbon. Make me cut it many

1861
01:53:26,010 --> 01:53:28,950
times just because this guy's
such a terrible person. Anyway,

1862
01:53:28,950 --> 01:53:29,040
I'd

1863
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:31,950
like that. I like the analogy.
The Apple security is like a

1864
01:53:31,950 --> 01:53:34,080
ribbon. Don't ask me to cut the

1865
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:37,080
ribbon actually slamming them.
Yeah.

1866
01:53:38,010 --> 01:53:40,740
So I'm not so worried anymore.
This is this is going to be a

1867
01:53:40,740 --> 01:53:46,800
long drawn out. Conversation and
Congress. Everybody wants to be

1868
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:49,830
in the people should the people
should vote everyone up. People

1869
01:53:49,830 --> 01:53:50,820
should say that Irish

1870
01:53:50,820 --> 01:53:54,000
is not going to do any us any
favours. No.

1871
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:57,270
No, no, no, no.

1872
01:53:57,660 --> 01:54:01,050
All she's gonna do is do a
favour for Apple to make them

1873
01:54:01,050 --> 01:54:07,860
liability. proof for about less
chance of getting sued. They do

1874
01:54:07,860 --> 01:54:10,950
this constantly do with all the
pharmaceutical companies, like

1875
01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:13,650
every big company comes to
Congress and Okay, okay, we'll

1876
01:54:14,730 --> 01:54:16,170
make so you can't get sued.

1877
01:54:18,060 --> 01:54:19,110
By law.

1878
01:54:19,710 --> 01:54:23,550
Yeah. So it's, I don't know, I
don't know what your take is.

1879
01:54:23,550 --> 01:54:28,740
But when I hear Comey and cook
Comey and cook the odd couple,

1880
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:33,540
when I hear them both talking
about now, this is not for the

1881
01:54:33,540 --> 01:54:37,770
court. This is for Congress for
the people to decide that you

1882
01:54:37,770 --> 01:54:41,160
know, you just gotta wonder, are
they both? Maybe Apple just

1883
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:46,320
wants to have something that?
No, no, I can't imagine that.

1884
01:54:46,500 --> 01:54:50,040
They it has never been I don't
think ever in all about the

1885
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:55,080
money in the history of mankind.
Have we ever had an Information

1886
01:54:55,920 --> 01:55:02,070
box that no one could Open
except the owner with the

1887
01:55:02,070 --> 01:55:06,750
appropriate credentials. Not
really no. Okay. And the

1888
01:55:06,750 --> 01:55:07,320
question is,

1889
01:55:07,350 --> 01:55:09,540
this is used to be the
encryption that I mean there was

1890
01:55:09,540 --> 01:55:13,080
encryption during World War Two
and most of us always cracked.

1891
01:55:13,650 --> 01:55:13,980
Yeah.

1892
01:55:15,269 --> 01:55:16,319
But the

1893
01:55:17,039 --> 01:55:18,329
and that's kind of a box so

1894
01:55:18,330 --> 01:55:22,590
for for, for individuals, I like
the Apple sales job but they

1895
01:55:22,590 --> 01:55:24,540
don't have to do anything
because it already works. I hope

1896
01:55:24,540 --> 01:55:27,060
they don't take that part out
where I can have strong

1897
01:55:27,270 --> 01:55:32,580
passphrases so I'm happy but I
would think that Apple wants it

1898
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:36,870
codified that they are allowed
to the day and we know Android

1899
01:55:36,870 --> 01:55:42,810
can't do it. They are the ones
who have the absolute secure box

1900
01:55:44,070 --> 01:55:48,630
that no one and of course in
history I don't think that's

1901
01:55:48,630 --> 01:55:52,680
ever existed. That no you cannot
get my information. Now of

1902
01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:55,470
course what's what's fun about
it is you know, you can as you

1903
01:55:55,470 --> 01:55:57,210
just you can use that there's
plenty

1904
01:55:57,210 --> 01:55:59,730
of there's instances where you
can't get me information, you

1905
01:55:59,730 --> 01:56:02,760
just memorise it and shut up,
right? That's

1906
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:09,870
the only one that's how you keep
your passcode but people these

1907
01:56:09,870 --> 01:56:12,660
days can't even remember six
digits so you get what you

1908
01:56:12,660 --> 01:56:13,980
deserve dumb slaves.

1909
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:20,940
Well, when I was doing cranking
use of pharma the guy's a good

1910
01:56:20,940 --> 01:56:24,030
hacker knows all this stuff. He
says you want to remember long

1911
01:56:24,030 --> 01:56:28,560
passphrases you do it in the
form of a sentence. Yes. I

1912
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:31,710
always thought that was a good
idea. So you would do something

1913
01:56:31,710 --> 01:56:38,160
like this is my password for the
Apple iPhone five see? Right.

1914
01:56:38,250 --> 01:56:41,550
And that would be your passcode
and it's not going to if

1915
01:56:41,550 --> 01:56:45,390
anyone's going to guess that and
it would did this way over the

1916
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,690
characters you're talking about
and it'd be very hard to crack.

1917
01:56:49,500 --> 01:56:54,000
And you can remember that when
you can't remember as a Joe NGO

1918
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:59,640
password, five carat five
ampersand ampersand ampersand

1919
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:06,120
666 43 lowercase ABC, you know
this thing that goes on forever

1920
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:10,650
one long sentence. You know, I'm
really a big fan of the Golden

1921
01:57:10,650 --> 01:57:15,420
State Warriors, you know, or
something even sillier is just

1922
01:57:15,420 --> 01:57:19,350
as secure. And there's a good
tip for people when I have a

1923
01:57:19,350 --> 01:57:19,920
long past.

1924
01:57:19,950 --> 01:57:23,520
So I think it's all marketing. I
think that's I think this is a

1925
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:27,120
marketing ploy. And I don't like
that Cook is only talking about

1926
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:30,060
this and is not touting the
actual capabilities of the

1927
01:57:30,060 --> 01:57:36,810
devices which means he's full of
shit. I want to I got an email

1928
01:57:36,810 --> 01:57:42,930
from one of our producers who is
a teacher any teacher any? I had

1929
01:57:42,930 --> 01:57:44,520
him I was listening to the last
show in which you mentioned the

1930
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:47,670
mind dump programme from Goldie
Hawn. Then you played a clip.

1931
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:51,990
You played a clip let me let me
play a little piece of that

1932
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:55,170
clip. This is Goldie Hans
educational charity.

1933
01:57:55,230 --> 01:57:58,290
So the beautiful thing is to
live right now. How hard is

1934
01:57:58,290 --> 01:58:00,870
that? The only thing that's hard
about it is finding the time to

1935
01:58:00,870 --> 01:58:01,470
sit down

1936
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:06,480
a few times each day the kids
pause. It's called a brain

1937
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:10,980
break. After a few quiet
moments, their eyes open and

1938
01:58:10,980 --> 01:58:12,180
heart rates bra

1939
01:58:12,510 --> 01:58:16,260
that telling our bodies that
we're calm, and we can think

1940
01:58:16,260 --> 01:58:20,220
clearly and we're ready to take
a test or ready to calm down. It

1941
01:58:20,220 --> 01:58:23,490
can also tame aggression. What
if you're angry at your friend?

1942
01:58:24,030 --> 01:58:29,250
Should you just hit them? Yes,
that's why we pause. Take a

1943
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,070
deep breath out.

1944
01:58:32,700 --> 01:58:37,440
So this was the gong or the
chime and so Annie continues.

1945
01:58:38,220 --> 01:58:40,860
While I understand your concern
about the mind control aspect of

1946
01:58:40,860 --> 01:58:43,590
the techniques of the programme
as a teacher what I heard was

1947
01:58:43,590 --> 01:58:46,680
wonderful. If I can keep my
students from hating each other

1948
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:49,530
kicking each other or bashing
each other's heads into a wall.

1949
01:58:49,590 --> 01:58:53,010
It has been a good day. inner
city kids need programmes like

1950
01:58:53,010 --> 01:58:55,410
this to teach them how to act
towards each other because they

1951
01:58:55,410 --> 01:58:59,010
aren't learning those skills at
home. I personally use a gong in

1952
01:58:59,010 --> 01:59:07,800
my classroom cue John. Wow.
Cute. I teach music and theatre

1953
01:59:07,830 --> 01:59:10,290
the grades one through five
yelling at students or waiting

1954
01:59:10,290 --> 01:59:12,870
for them to pay attention simply
does not work and where's my

1955
01:59:12,870 --> 01:59:15,870
voice? So I use the gong.
Anyway, glad to answer questions

1956
01:59:15,870 --> 01:59:18,060
about being a public school
teacher working with inner city

1957
01:59:18,060 --> 01:59:20,610
kids. Yeah, send us more Annie.
I love that and you have

1958
01:59:20,610 --> 01:59:26,100
inspired me. But luckily, I have
been informed this is the

1959
01:59:26,130 --> 01:59:32,160
zenergy chime that is being used
in the mind up programme. Oh,

1960
01:59:32,190 --> 01:59:35,100
and I feel that we can use this
to our own benefit.

1961
01:59:35,820 --> 01:59:39,870
Yes. Okay everybody this is all
HIPAA Varg various yes levels.

1962
01:59:39,929 --> 01:59:42,539
Well, let's try it out. Let's
try it out. Okay, everybody.

1963
01:59:42,539 --> 01:59:45,869
Wait, maybe this maybe I should
put a little little reverb Hold

1964
01:59:45,869 --> 01:59:51,899
on. I'm probably better. Okay.
Okay, everybody. It's time for a

1965
01:59:51,899 --> 01:59:56,189
brain break. Let our bodies know
that we're calm and we can think

1966
01:59:56,189 --> 02:00:00,869
clearly. And we're ready to calm
down. What if you're angry your

1967
02:00:00,869 --> 02:00:04,589
friends? Should you just hit
them at all?

1968
02:00:04,830 --> 02:00:08,880
That's why we pause take a deep
breath

1969
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:16,980
and donate to no agenda to no
agenda donate to no agenda

1970
02:00:20,610 --> 02:00:31,620
know how crazy that is the sound
from the the manufacturer.

1971
02:00:32,550 --> 02:00:36,090
You gotta get we gotta get a cup
I got it's on order. It's only

1972
02:00:36,090 --> 02:00:39,120
now granted dinner table and JC
chimes in, we're talking about

1973
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:46,050
some of this stuff. And he, he
says he always considers himself

1974
02:00:46,050 --> 02:00:48,270
a look Connie and trained.
There'll be a few people out

1975
02:00:48,270 --> 02:00:51,450
there recognise that name? Well,
you need to explain that. He's

1976
02:00:51,450 --> 02:00:56,070
as a psych. It's a it's a long
story. It's talked about like,

1977
02:00:57,420 --> 02:01:02,100
he says, you do the methodology
for avoiding being hypnotised by

1978
02:01:02,100 --> 02:01:05,340
a sweet talker, who's actually
hypnotising you more than they

1979
02:01:05,340 --> 02:01:09,300
are teaching a meditator
anything else. Sure. This is the

1980
02:01:09,300 --> 02:01:14,580
key to success to keep from
being hypnotised is to actually

1981
02:01:14,580 --> 02:01:17,940
concentrate on their words to an
extreme.

1982
02:01:18,690 --> 02:01:22,020
Why, why did I just programmed
everybody's brain and now you're

1983
02:01:22,020 --> 02:01:23,790
telling them how not to do it
was too

1984
02:01:23,790 --> 02:01:25,650
late. They're already been
programmed, they're not gonna be

1985
02:01:25,650 --> 02:01:28,740
able to do this now. They listen
to the show later on,

1986
02:01:28,740 --> 02:01:29,760
but let's see if it works.

1987
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:32,880
Let's listen to that thing, man.

1988
02:01:33,540 --> 02:01:38,520
That's a gym. So you listen very
carefully to the person talking

1989
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:40,710
which is what we do on this
show. And we listened to some of

1990
02:01:40,710 --> 02:01:45,360
the bull crap that isn't being
read to us and we're you know,

1991
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:49,380
the television is more or less a
hypnotic product anyway. Yes.

1992
02:01:50,370 --> 02:01:53,520
He's just staring at it and then
telling you crazy stuff like the

1993
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:59,700
Romney things citing no proof.
Citing no proof is a form of

1994
02:01:59,700 --> 02:02:02,130
this. And so if you listen
carefully, which is what we do

1995
02:02:02,130 --> 02:02:05,670
on this show, and when we listen
to these clips, yes. It's the

1996
02:02:05,670 --> 02:02:08,220
same thing. You just listening
carefully and you will you will

1997
02:02:08,220 --> 02:02:11,910
not be good, because you will
actually be excited to be

1998
02:02:11,910 --> 02:02:12,870
listening so carefully

1999
02:02:12,900 --> 02:02:18,480
donated to no agenda. Donate to
no agenda, donate to knowledge

2000
02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:24,360
and donate. Oh, man, that thing
is painful. Almost.

2001
02:02:25,590 --> 02:02:28,140
I think if you have the real
deal, you won't have this issue.

2002
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:32,880
This pretty good. Pretty good
recording.

2003
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:36,630
Yeah, it is. Is piercing.

2004
02:02:38,670 --> 02:02:42,450
What else we got going on,
Johnny Boy. Oh my gosh.

2005
02:02:42,870 --> 02:02:46,320
Congratulations. Okay, thank
you. I'm proving once again that

2006
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:50,910
you are from the future. What I
do now? Well, you brought up a

2007
02:02:50,910 --> 02:02:56,010
product, which I don't think I'd
ever heard of before. Yeah,

2008
02:02:56,040 --> 02:03:00,870
sorghum, sorghum. And moments
later the next day on the number

2009
02:03:00,870 --> 02:03:03,150
one television show in America.

2010
02:03:03,900 --> 02:03:06,450
And I've done some of the
agricultural supply places in

2011
02:03:06,450 --> 02:03:09,810
the area. The unit they've been
cleaned out my bet is that the

2012
02:03:09,810 --> 02:03:12,810
sorghum would be untouched, that
there's a criminally underrated

2013
02:03:12,810 --> 02:03:15,000
grain that could change the game
with our food situation from

2014
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:21,300
scary to Hunky Dunky
standability drought tolerance

2015
02:03:21,300 --> 02:03:24,270
grain to Stover ratio that is
the envy of all corns.

2016
02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:29,490
That of course is walking dead
then now I got to think we're

2017
02:03:29,490 --> 02:03:33,750
being set up with this sorghum
crap. It'd be because we've got

2018
02:03:33,750 --> 02:03:36,660
the biggest, biggest depression
ever coming.

2019
02:03:37,500 --> 02:03:40,320
So sorghum is also mentioned
apparently by somebody sent me a

2020
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:42,330
note the Stephen King is touting
it.

2021
02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:45,960
Yeah, Mr. Lehmann kings

2022
02:03:46,350 --> 02:03:50,910
future story, which is, I think
the name of the show is 1122 63.

2023
02:03:51,420 --> 02:03:54,120
I don't know which is a mini
series that are only available

2024
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:59,640
on Hulu to Hulu subscribers. My
wife's been watching it. I'll

2025
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:04,410
probably watch it later. is
apparently dynamite as a guy in

2026
02:04:04,410 --> 02:04:06,960
the future that sent back this
is actually an interesting

2027
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:11,010
thesis for time travel guy in
the future sent back to stop the

2028
02:04:11,010 --> 02:04:12,420
Kennedy assassination.

2029
02:04:13,740 --> 02:04:16,800
And really, why didn't you stop
the John Lennon assassination?

2030
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:17,760
That would be better he

2031
02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:21,150
could do that later. And
actually, if he stopped the

2032
02:04:21,150 --> 02:04:23,640
Kennedy assassination, the John
Lennon assassination would

2033
02:04:23,820 --> 02:04:28,680
probably by nature be stopped
naturally would but anyway, it

2034
02:04:28,680 --> 02:04:32,250
turns in the way that I think
the story is is the resistance

2035
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:39,990
that time has In other words,
Kennedy, the elemental forces

2036
02:04:39,990 --> 02:04:43,980
that are going to result in
Kennedy's assassination are

2037
02:04:43,980 --> 02:04:48,210
pretty hard to interrupt. And
this in the show, I think, I

2038
02:04:48,210 --> 02:04:51,120
haven't seen it I'm gonna start
watching so I could say that as

2039
02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:54,390
well. I understand that I read
the reviews. And so the guy is

2040
02:04:54,390 --> 02:04:57,630
going back in time trying to
stop this is thwarted, just

2041
02:04:57,630 --> 02:05:00,120
constantly can't manage to get
get the job done. If

2042
02:05:01,410 --> 02:05:02,580
you're interested in sticking to
that,

2043
02:05:02,670 --> 02:05:07,800
there's two two new shows I
caught. One is billions. Yes.

2044
02:05:08,190 --> 02:05:11,670
Which is, is that Amazon? I
think it's Amazon original with

2045
02:05:11,670 --> 02:05:14,310
Paul Giamatti. Good show.

2046
02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:21,060
And I didn't like it know what
it was crashing. I liked

2047
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:23,820
the first episode where his wife
you know, ties him down and

2048
02:05:23,820 --> 02:05:26,610
urinates on him. I got my
attention. Well, that's probably

2049
02:05:26,610 --> 02:05:30,450
the only reason you liked it. I
found found that to be just

2050
02:05:30,450 --> 02:05:34,680
like, why am I watching this? If
I want to watch porn if I want

2051
02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:36,420
to watch something like this, it
was disgusting.

2052
02:05:36,990 --> 02:05:43,530
And the other show is vinyl. And
that's on I think that's HBO

2053
02:05:43,710 --> 02:05:44,520
binding. I've

2054
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:49,830
watched via vinyl I really don't
like because I here's my take on

2055
02:05:49,830 --> 02:05:54,900
vinyl. It's extremely slow, slow
moving. It's so slow. Did

2056
02:05:54,900 --> 02:05:57,420
you see the second episode or
only the pilot only only watched

2057
02:05:57,420 --> 02:06:00,780
the first two hour episode?
Yeah. If you watch the second

2058
02:06:00,780 --> 02:06:02,370
one, you kind of get sucked in.
I think

2059
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,970
I tried to watch the second one.
But I was so put off by the

2060
02:06:05,970 --> 02:06:09,510
first episode. That I don't
think I can I'm biassed, I'm

2061
02:06:09,510 --> 02:06:12,360
biassed, I'll give a second I'll
give the second episode a second

2062
02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:15,030
shot. I'm biassed, and it better
really be good.

2063
02:06:15,060 --> 02:06:18,480
I'm biassed, and I'll tell you
why. Cuz I know either the names

2064
02:06:18,510 --> 02:06:22,080
of the players or who they are
supposed to be playing in the

2065
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:22,860
music business.

2066
02:06:22,950 --> 02:06:25,440
Yeah. So as an insider, it is an
insider

2067
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:28,800
show. Yeah. Well, this is like,
like, no, it's Silicon Valley,

2068
02:06:28,830 --> 02:06:30,840
like Silicon Valley is an
insider show.

2069
02:06:31,770 --> 02:06:35,310
Well, I haven't I didn't even
watch the last season. Yeah,

2070
02:06:35,850 --> 02:06:40,260
shit. I am very picky about what
I watch. I tend to watch real

2071
02:06:40,290 --> 02:06:46,080
popular stuff for structure. And
I like you know, shows that are

2072
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:49,080
kind of I like mysteries. I like
to detect stories in

2073
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:51,930
the chat room, Donald Trump just
said I will make vinyl great

2074
02:06:51,930 --> 02:06:53,520
again. So we're good to go.

2075
02:06:57,180 --> 02:06:59,910
So I don't like vinyl. I don't
like billionaire or whatever

2076
02:06:59,910 --> 02:07:04,110
it's called. And the other new
shows I've tried bumped into a

2077
02:07:04,110 --> 02:07:08,430
bunch of them. And I'm glad man,
I'm trying not to watch this

2078
02:07:08,430 --> 02:07:11,010
stuff. I mean, I will watch
somebody who has asked me about

2079
02:07:11,010 --> 02:07:14,190
the good wife. I've never been
able to what do you think about

2080
02:07:14,190 --> 02:07:16,920
the good why I said I think it's
a fantastic show. It's very well

2081
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:20,430
structured as a good story. But
it's it's got it's got annoying

2082
02:07:20,430 --> 02:07:24,120
long arcs that I just don't want
to deal with. I don't want to

2083
02:07:24,390 --> 02:07:30,030
start watching soap operas in
prime time, just not for me. So

2084
02:07:30,030 --> 02:07:34,170
I don't want I try to I always
say what I shouldn't be watching

2085
02:07:34,170 --> 02:07:37,530
C span for the benefit of the no
agenda listener, or should I be

2086
02:07:37,530 --> 02:07:41,490
watching this crap? And I always
back off with men. In the room.

2087
02:07:41,490 --> 02:07:44,010
They see me they see me what am
I watching? I'm watching C span

2088
02:07:44,010 --> 02:07:44,790
or warriors.

2089
02:07:44,820 --> 02:07:50,400
Speaking of that, by watch C
span for you all. And I got the

2090
02:07:50,430 --> 02:07:53,190
the President was meeting with
someone in his sit down chair

2091
02:07:53,190 --> 02:07:56,520
room. And then afterwards the
press was able to ask questions.

2092
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:59,700
So the President was reasonably
unscripted. There was no

2093
02:07:59,700 --> 02:08:02,550
teleprompter visible. Did you
know, you know, the situation

2094
02:08:02,550 --> 02:08:10,800
with the cameras clicking. And
he addressed the issue of the

2095
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:14,250
nominating a new Supreme Court
justice.

2096
02:08:14,910 --> 02:08:18,210
He's on the stump for this.
That's why you saw him. And

2097
02:08:18,450 --> 02:08:22,770
there's a couple things that we
need to talk about in what he

2098
02:08:22,770 --> 02:08:23,880
said on his stump.

2099
02:08:23,910 --> 02:08:27,000
Let's see how the public
responds to the nominee that we

2100
02:08:27,000 --> 02:08:27,570
put forward.

2101
02:08:27,930 --> 02:08:31,200
This is already interesting.
Right off the bat. He's saying

2102
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:35,880
let's see how the public
responds, fine. The public is

2103
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:41,220
not responsible. That is the
President's article two, section

2104
02:08:41,220 --> 02:08:46,410
two clause two, it is the
President's job to nominate with

2105
02:08:46,440 --> 02:08:51,090
advice and consent of the
Senate. And the Senate doesn't

2106
02:08:51,090 --> 02:08:52,800
necessarily represent the people
does it

2107
02:08:54,690 --> 02:08:59,160
represents a state the state's
more than the people. Yeah.

2108
02:08:59,519 --> 02:09:02,489
But the President's like, well,
this should this is the people

2109
02:09:02,489 --> 02:09:04,799
should decide. No, no, that's
not how it works.

2110
02:09:05,070 --> 02:09:10,170
The one thing I think is
important to dispel is any

2111
02:09:10,170 --> 02:09:14,490
notion that somehow this is some
well established tradition.

2112
02:09:16,260 --> 02:09:18,810
Now listen carefully, the
President is going to start

2113
02:09:18,810 --> 02:09:22,530
refuting all of the talking
points, which means they bother

2114
02:09:22,530 --> 02:09:27,720
him or bother somebody. And we
had the 80 year question, which

2115
02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:31,110
we already highlighted on the
show when Rubio said, oh, you

2116
02:09:31,110 --> 02:09:33,900
know, 80 years this hasn't
happened. Then Ted Cruz said,

2117
02:09:33,990 --> 02:09:37,080
then the aihole Moderator
interrupt is no, no, that's not

2118
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:40,170
right, was nominated 586. So
that's technically not right.

2119
02:09:40,170 --> 02:09:43,050
And the President goes into
this. So there's something

2120
02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:44,340
strange here

2121
02:09:44,370 --> 02:09:49,620
or some constitutional principle
that a president in his last

2122
02:09:49,620 --> 02:09:52,920
year of Office cannot fill the
Supreme Court vacancy. It's not

2123
02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:55,200
in the text of the Constitution.
Ironically, these are

2124
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:58,260
Republicans who say they believe
in reading the text of the

2125
02:09:58,260 --> 02:10:01,830
Constitution and focusing on the
The intent of the Constitution.

2126
02:10:02,790 --> 02:10:06,810
None of the founding fathers
thought when it comes to the

2127
02:10:06,810 --> 02:10:09,240
president carrying out his
duties, he should do it for

2128
02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:12,540
three years, and then on the
last year stopped doing it.

2129
02:10:13,170 --> 02:10:16,740
This is a very, very weak
argument he's pulling out here.

2130
02:10:16,980 --> 02:10:20,580
And the appointments clause is
is really it only says the

2131
02:10:20,580 --> 02:10:23,280
president shall have the power
by and with the advice and

2132
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:25,800
consent of the Senate to make
treaties provided two thirds of

2133
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:28,950
the Senate present, present
concur, and he shall nominate,

2134
02:10:28,950 --> 02:10:32,160
and by and with the advice and
consent of the Senate, shall

2135
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:34,620
appoint ambassadors, other
public ministers, council

2136
02:10:34,620 --> 02:10:37,500
judges, judges of the Supreme
Court, and all are the officers

2137
02:10:37,500 --> 02:10:39,960
of the United States. Say
advice?

2138
02:10:40,260 --> 02:10:44,310
Yes. So this sentence supposed
to advise him

2139
02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:48,870
with the advice and consent of
the Senate and consent getting

2140
02:10:48,870 --> 02:10:49,710
any advice?

2141
02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:52,350
So he's in violation of that
already?

2142
02:10:53,460 --> 02:10:54,930
Well, who's it who's violating?

2143
02:10:55,890 --> 02:10:58,680
The president? He's already
well, deep, and he's going to

2144
02:10:58,680 --> 02:11:00,420
pick somebody? Where's the
advice?

2145
02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:11,250
Well, here it is. This is a Can
I also looked up consent.

2146
02:11:11,670 --> 02:11:14,070
I don't even care about this. As
far as I'm concerned, he can do

2147
02:11:14,070 --> 02:11:17,310
whatever he wants. But did you
have hope that if you're going

2148
02:11:17,310 --> 02:11:20,130
to do this, this bit here that
you're going to bring in the Joe

2149
02:11:20,130 --> 02:11:20,910
Biden clip

2150
02:11:20,910 --> 02:11:22,860
Hello, motherfucker? Oh, of
course,

2151
02:11:23,130 --> 02:11:26,880
there's an argument that Well,
the President shouldn't do this

2152
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:30,810
because he is a lame duck. Well,
the truth of the matter is that

2153
02:11:31,500 --> 02:11:36,030
traditionally, the term lame
duck refers to the two or three

2154
02:11:36,030 --> 02:11:39,900
months after an election has
taken place in which a new

2155
02:11:39,900 --> 02:11:42,600
president is about to be sworn
in.

2156
02:11:42,660 --> 02:11:45,510
Is that true? Is that the
official definition of a lame

2157
02:11:45,510 --> 02:11:45,810
duck?

2158
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:50,310
Generally speaking, the lame
duck is a guy who is lost.

2159
02:11:50,430 --> 02:11:54,420
Generally speaking, it's this,
you just lost the election. And

2160
02:11:54,420 --> 02:11:56,910
now you're still in office, and
then the new guy is going to

2161
02:11:56,910 --> 02:11:59,850
take over but he doesn't take
over that day, when the election

2162
02:11:59,850 --> 02:12:02,070
he takes over a couple months
later. And so there's that

2163
02:12:02,070 --> 02:12:05,610
little period where you're the
lame duck and I would apply to

2164
02:12:05,610 --> 02:12:09,450
him that you can you know,
you're not, you're not obliged

2165
02:12:09,450 --> 02:12:12,270
to do anything. You're the dumb
lame duck, you're not supposed

2166
02:12:12,270 --> 02:12:15,720
to really mess things up. But
you could why not? Just called

2167
02:12:15,750 --> 02:12:17,670
you just called a lame duck
doesn't mean you can't do

2168
02:12:17,670 --> 02:12:18,180
anything.

2169
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:21,540
I've got a year to go. I don't
think they would approve of me

2170
02:12:22,380 --> 02:12:27,240
abdicating on my duties to as
Commander in Chief, stop doing

2171
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:28,980
all the other work that I got to
do. Whoa,

2172
02:12:28,980 --> 02:12:31,170
what? All the other work, John,
he's got a lot of work.

2173
02:12:31,590 --> 02:12:33,630
He's got a lot of golf, got a
lot golf and work on

2174
02:12:33,630 --> 02:12:34,560
his swing. Yeah. Well, the

2175
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:37,860
other work that I got to do
well, this is part of my job.

2176
02:12:38,040 --> 02:12:41,850
There's been arguments that for
80 years, this has been the

2177
02:12:41,850 --> 02:12:43,260
tradition. Well, that's not the
case.

2178
02:12:43,290 --> 02:12:46,200
She now he's actually going to
explain this, this little ditty,

2179
02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:49,350
Justice Kennedy. Think this
guy's a bore.

2180
02:12:49,410 --> 02:12:53,880
Well, hold on, been nominated by
Ronald Reagan. In Ronald

2181
02:12:53,880 --> 02:12:56,580
Reagan's last year of office,
they say, well, that's different

2182
02:12:56,580 --> 02:13:02,520
because he had been nominated in
1987, even if he was,

2183
02:13:03,300 --> 02:13:06,120
this is, this is what happens
when he's not scripted. He

2184
02:13:06,120 --> 02:13:09,600
should not be doing this. This
is stupid. This is if you want

2185
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:13,080
to make a point, to go into this
depth about this, but 80 years

2186
02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:16,230
is dumb. If you'd stick to the
original thing I'm doing my job

2187
02:13:16,230 --> 02:13:19,770
for or at Fabien if he was
confirmed at six. Well,

2188
02:13:19,860 --> 02:13:23,220
he's worse than carry when he
gets in the situation socially,

2189
02:13:23,220 --> 02:13:23,910
that there's some

2190
02:13:24,360 --> 02:13:26,760
two month period in which
suddenly at all flips and

2191
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:30,660
everything shuts down. That's
not a credible argument. What

2192
02:13:30,660 --> 02:13:31,770
other arguments are they making?

2193
02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:33,630
I don't know. Just keep on
going.

2194
02:13:33,660 --> 02:13:36,570
They suggest that Well, there
have been a couple of times

2195
02:13:36,570 --> 02:13:40,740
where Democrats said it would be
wise for a president not to

2196
02:13:41,190 --> 02:13:44,640
nominate someone. First of all,
we know senators say stuff all

2197
02:13:44,640 --> 02:13:45,060
the time.

2198
02:13:45,570 --> 02:13:46,350
I liked his

2199
02:13:47,850 --> 02:13:51,120
because he's pretty much
slamming his vice president.

2200
02:13:51,660 --> 02:13:54,300
These adult senators say shit
all the time, man, you know,

2201
02:13:54,300 --> 02:13:58,530
they just say stuff all the
time. Joe Biden was a senator

2202
02:13:58,530 --> 02:13:59,310
when he said this

2203
02:13:59,340 --> 02:14:04,650
as a result. It is my view, that
if a Supreme Court justice

2204
02:14:04,650 --> 02:14:09,330
resigns tomorrow or within the
next several weeks, or resigns

2205
02:14:09,330 --> 02:14:14,220
at the end of the summer,
President Bush should consider

2206
02:14:14,310 --> 02:14:18,570
following the practice of a
majority of his predecessors and

2207
02:14:18,570 --> 02:14:25,200
not drawn and not name a nominee
until after the November

2208
02:14:25,200 --> 02:14:29,850
election is completed. The
Senate to Mr. President must

2209
02:14:29,850 --> 02:14:33,360
consider how it would would
respond to a Supreme Court

2210
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:38,340
vacancy that would occur in the
full throes of an election year.

2211
02:14:39,330 --> 02:14:43,080
It is my view that if the
President goes the way of

2212
02:14:43,080 --> 02:14:47,430
presidents Fillmore and Johnson
and presses an election year

2213
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:52,620
nomination, the Senate Judiciary
Committee should seriously

2214
02:14:52,620 --> 02:14:56,310
consider not scheduling
confirmation hearings on the

2215
02:14:56,310 --> 02:15:00,690
nomination, until ever until
after the poll political

2216
02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:02,490
campaign season is over.

2217
02:15:03,300 --> 02:15:05,010
Yeah, not to

2218
02:15:05,460 --> 02:15:08,910
nominate someone. First of all,
we know senators say stuff all

2219
02:15:08,910 --> 02:15:14,850
the time. Second of all, these
were comments that were made

2220
02:15:14,850 --> 02:15:18,240
where there was no actual
nomination at stake.

2221
02:15:18,330 --> 02:15:22,770
Well, you can laugh about that.
But Joe Biden's words your vice

2222
02:15:22,770 --> 02:15:25,260
president, some dumbass senator,
because you know, they always

2223
02:15:25,260 --> 02:15:26,970
say stuff all the time he said
that.

2224
02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:33,690
So it has no application to
actual the actual situation that

2225
02:15:33,690 --> 02:15:37,140
we have right now. So we'll see
how this plays itself out. But

2226
02:15:37,140 --> 02:15:39,960
I'm going to do my job and
nominate somebody and let the

2227
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:42,510
American people decide as to
whether that person is qualified

2228
02:15:42,510 --> 02:15:44,850
or not. The American people
don't decide that and if they

2229
02:15:44,850 --> 02:15:48,360
are qualified, let the American
people decide, well, no, there

2230
02:15:48,360 --> 02:15:53,550
is enough time for the US Senate
to hold hearings and have a

2231
02:15:53,550 --> 02:15:57,180
vote. It's not as if from what I
see the Senate Calendar is so

2232
02:15:57,180 --> 02:15:59,790
full that we don't have time to
get this done

2233
02:15:59,850 --> 02:16:08,460
now well I don't know. Consent
to agree in opinion or sentiment

2234
02:16:08,490 --> 02:16:13,230
to be of the same mind that

2235
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:17,850
that is what is needed. Seems
like another distraction to hold

2236
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:18,510
Oh, yeah,

2237
02:16:18,540 --> 02:16:22,560
I'll totally totally and I came
up with my I

2238
02:16:22,590 --> 02:16:26,130
fixed my blood. I just worse
than Carrie fix. Mine is just as

2239
02:16:26,130 --> 02:16:26,580
bad.

2240
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:30,450
I fix my analogy. You know,
everyone's like, well, if we get

2241
02:16:30,450 --> 02:16:32,940
this person if he nominates that
and then if Hillary gets this

2242
02:16:32,940 --> 02:16:36,270
many delegates and Bernie does
is it's not Moneyball, I figured

2243
02:16:36,270 --> 02:16:39,750
out what it is. It's fantasy
football. That's what they're

2244
02:16:39,750 --> 02:16:40,080
doing.

2245
02:16:42,809 --> 02:16:44,159
Fantasy Sports would be better.

2246
02:16:44,190 --> 02:16:47,310
Okay, fantasies, but fantasy
football. Everybody understands.

2247
02:16:47,490 --> 02:16:52,530
Oh, everyone understands fantasy
sports. Fantasy Football is an

2248
02:16:52,530 --> 02:16:53,280
element of it.

2249
02:16:53,370 --> 02:16:56,070
Right? And when I think fantasy
sports, I got a whole different

2250
02:16:56,070 --> 02:16:56,550
idea.

2251
02:16:56,969 --> 02:17:01,289
We'll use it up nevermind. You
already brought it up with the

2252
02:17:01,289 --> 02:17:08,669
billionaires citation. New
WikiLeaks Lee Italy spying. This

2253
02:17:08,669 --> 02:17:11,579
is a clip from Democracy Now.
And as you know about the new

2254
02:17:11,579 --> 02:17:14,129
Wikileaks stuff that we've been
exploring it.

2255
02:17:15,540 --> 02:17:18,420
I have three things on my
docket. One of that is this I

2256
02:17:18,420 --> 02:17:23,220
have the 1000 page report from
Dame Judi or Judith or whatever

2257
02:17:23,220 --> 02:17:26,880
her name is about the pedo bears
in the UK. So no, I haven't

2258
02:17:26,880 --> 02:17:27,570
explored it yet.

2259
02:17:28,590 --> 02:17:30,630
Well, just listen to this.
Listen to this clip.

2260
02:17:31,650 --> 02:17:34,350
Italy's some of the US
Ambassador after reports the

2261
02:17:34,350 --> 02:17:37,680
National Security Agency tap the
phones of former Prime Minister

2262
02:17:37,680 --> 02:17:41,520
Silvio Berlusconi and his aides
in 2011. Italy said it wanted

2263
02:17:41,520 --> 02:17:44,970
specific clarifications after
Italian news outlets citing

2264
02:17:44,970 --> 02:17:47,190
WikiLeaks reported on the
spying.

2265
02:17:49,020 --> 02:17:52,560
Okay, so the Wikileaks has a
bunch of new stuff that came out

2266
02:17:52,560 --> 02:17:54,930
with I don't know how this
planning I don't know too much

2267
02:17:54,930 --> 02:17:56,880
about I just found out about it
when I listened to this

2268
02:17:56,880 --> 02:18:00,360
democracy now report because
nobody else is talking about it.

2269
02:18:01,380 --> 02:18:03,990
And it seems to me that if
democracy now is going to be the

2270
02:18:03,990 --> 02:18:06,570
only people that even mentioned
why didn't Why not they started

2271
02:18:06,570 --> 02:18:10,320
looking into this I just nobody
seems to know is all this great

2272
02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:12,870
documents and everyone out
whatever, nobody cares. It's

2273
02:18:12,870 --> 02:18:16,620
gonna slam Trump. We got other
things to do with our time. I

2274
02:18:16,620 --> 02:18:19,890
find it very peculiar. Oh, of
course, this latest thing is

2275
02:18:19,890 --> 02:18:23,790
just yeah, we're spying on
Berlusconi. Holy crap. Who knew

2276
02:18:23,790 --> 02:18:26,970
we'd do something like that we
spy on everybody? Yeah,

2277
02:18:26,969 --> 02:18:30,149
it's a lot more NSA targets
world leaders for us

2278
02:18:30,149 --> 02:18:34,619
geopolitical interest. Yeah.
Yeah. This is why the iPhone can

2279
02:18:34,619 --> 02:18:37,379
never be completely locked down.
People. This cannot happen.

2280
02:18:38,610 --> 02:18:43,230
Yeah, and it won't happen. Okay.
The NSA probably already has the

2281
02:18:43,230 --> 02:18:44,100
backdoor, French,

2282
02:18:44,100 --> 02:18:52,380
Austrian, Belgians, Italians. UN
officials. X. Well, yeah, that's

2283
02:18:52,380 --> 02:18:56,250
what we do. What's the problem?

2284
02:18:57,300 --> 02:19:00,210
What you're talking about that
TV show billionaires I was

2285
02:19:00,210 --> 02:19:04,680
actually disturbed by this by
this clip. And that disturbed

2286
02:19:04,680 --> 02:19:07,020
disturbed, but it was
bothersome. This is the

2287
02:19:07,020 --> 02:19:08,310
billionaires clip.

2288
02:19:08,400 --> 02:19:11,820
Beijing now has more
billionaires than New York. The

2289
02:19:11,820 --> 02:19:15,780
Chinese capital added 32 to its
ranks last year, bringing the

2290
02:19:15,780 --> 02:19:19,620
total to 100 Thanks to a number
of new listings on the stock

2291
02:19:19,620 --> 02:19:23,190
market. New York City has 95
billionaires. According to the

2292
02:19:23,190 --> 02:19:27,510
latest who run reports latest
global rich list, Moscow rounded

2293
02:19:27,510 --> 02:19:31,140
up the top three was 66. Okay.

2294
02:19:32,430 --> 02:19:37,620
Does anybody find this to be
peculiar? When I'll tell you

2295
02:19:37,620 --> 02:19:41,400
why. When I was a kid, not even
a kid when I was it was like in

2296
02:19:41,400 --> 02:19:46,500
the late 70s. And then when I
started working, I think Ron 81

2297
02:19:46,500 --> 02:19:49,560
or something like that. I
probably 80 know I was went to

2298
02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:57,780
work for for Ziff Davis in 86.
And so in 86, and I got to know

2299
02:19:57,780 --> 02:20:03,660
Bill Ziff. At the time he He was
a billionaire. At the time,

2300
02:20:03,810 --> 02:20:09,630
there was something like 12 or
13 in the entire world. And I

2301
02:20:09,630 --> 02:20:12,600
knew a bunch of minute there
Larry Ellison was a billionaire

2302
02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:16,800
Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer are
billionaires. The guy who ran

2303
02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:20,640
evergreen shipping out of Taiwan
was a billionaire there were

2304
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:24,480
there but it was a limited
number of people and then all of

2305
02:20:24,480 --> 02:20:27,900
a sudden a billionaire make took
off and everybody's becoming a

2306
02:20:27,900 --> 02:20:31,200
billionaire. And of course, it's
all related to

2307
02:20:31,769 --> 02:20:34,919
well, to be fair, which he said
is because of the stock market

2308
02:20:34,919 --> 02:20:39,209
listings, they may be worth a
billion on paper. Yes, not

2309
02:20:39,209 --> 02:20:41,729
exactly like they got a billion
in cash sitting around

2310
02:20:42,870 --> 02:20:47,010
that's true. But still they
could do you know that you can

2311
02:20:47,010 --> 02:20:49,740
sell those that stock and come
up with a lot of money

2312
02:20:49,770 --> 02:20:52,560
there's your problem that the
actual amount the billions that

2313
02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:55,500
we have it's billion billion
billion instead of millionaires

2314
02:20:55,500 --> 02:20:58,080
because when I was growing up
Millionaire was a big deal now

2315
02:20:58,080 --> 02:21:00,990
it's Billy was which Tiny House
Yeah,

2316
02:21:01,320 --> 02:21:04,020
right. Yeah, it was a house on
the block. He's a millionaire

2317
02:21:04,020 --> 02:21:07,800
son. Yes. Is the house is worth
more than that. I just find it

2318
02:21:07,800 --> 02:21:10,440
very peculiar to and I've
noticed this though the other

2319
02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:14,340
one during my early era was the
Sultan of Brunei was a big deal

2320
02:21:14,340 --> 02:21:17,850
as reloading but nobody there
wasn't these two hundreds of

2321
02:21:17,850 --> 02:21:22,920
billionaires it was just maybe
20 or 30 Max and I just find it

2322
02:21:22,950 --> 02:21:24,300
distressing

2323
02:21:25,260 --> 02:21:27,330
in one way that there's more
billionaires

2324
02:21:27,900 --> 02:21:31,590
well it's like what changed the
make it all these billionaires

2325
02:21:31,590 --> 02:21:35,040
it has to be one one thing only
finance yeah these guys are all

2326
02:21:35,040 --> 02:21:39,480
somehow the financial structure
of the country and the banking

2327
02:21:39,480 --> 02:21:42,780
systems the devaluation of money
they just were all end the

2328
02:21:42,780 --> 02:21:47,970
devaluation of money there's no
doubt about that. So I'm

2329
02:21:47,970 --> 02:21:56,100
thinking that you were probably
right about the gold idea just

2330
02:21:56,100 --> 02:21:56,700
stuck with it.

2331
02:21:57,000 --> 02:21:59,880
And thank you very much for
telling everybody about my gold

2332
02:21:59,880 --> 02:22:02,760
hoarding on your little show
there with Horowitz so now I'm a

2333
02:22:02,760 --> 02:22:06,660
target what did I say? No you're
talking about oh Korea that I

2334
02:22:06,660 --> 02:22:08,430
got a gold doorstop

2335
02:22:09,300 --> 02:22:14,670
than he was this I got word.
This was like five years ago two

2336
02:22:14,670 --> 02:22:17,820
episodes ago now on divorce
court Woods unplugged

2337
02:22:17,880 --> 02:22:20,850
I you can go listen to it you
will not find me talking about

2338
02:22:20,850 --> 02:22:24,180
your gold doorstop which as far
as I know you don't know I

2339
02:22:24,180 --> 02:22:28,050
don't have gold coins. I got
coins I got coins I gave you a

2340
02:22:28,050 --> 02:22:30,810
coin coins is fine. I can do you
still have the coin I gave you

2341
02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:33,720
Oh yeah, I believe

2342
02:22:33,720 --> 02:22:36,720
I do. The one is the plastic
thing. Yeah, I still have that

2343
02:22:36,750 --> 02:22:37,680
it's a that's a

2344
02:22:37,680 --> 02:22:39,600
third of an ounce of gold that I
gave you yeah

2345
02:22:39,599 --> 02:22:43,949
it's worth more than 100 bucks
where it says where the penny or

2346
02:22:43,949 --> 02:22:45,269
something on the goal so now

2347
02:22:45,270 --> 02:22:51,150
you're actually telling me that
you think gold is a good idea?

2348
02:22:51,540 --> 02:22:52,020
Well,

2349
02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:55,080
you know gold probably is not a
bad idea once it's there is at

2350
02:22:55,080 --> 02:23:00,510
these levels at 1100 Yeah. It
but it's still not it's not as

2351
02:23:00,570 --> 02:23:04,230
far as I'm concerned. It doesn't
have the half of the of the

2352
02:23:04,230 --> 02:23:09,360
charm and the leverage of real
estate which is really what

2353
02:23:09,360 --> 02:23:14,640
people should invest in. I mean
because real estate goes up the

2354
02:23:14,640 --> 02:23:18,210
same way gold does Yeah, and it
goes down I've had good and bad

2355
02:23:18,210 --> 02:23:19,860
in real estate doesn't go down
that much.

2356
02:23:20,039 --> 02:23:22,649
I've had good good and bad

2357
02:23:25,560 --> 02:23:28,200
know what happened there? Sorry
about that. I'll tell you what.

2358
02:23:29,250 --> 02:23:32,700
I'm going to show my move by Joe
nice to know agenda. Imagine all

2359
02:23:32,700 --> 02:23:35,250
the people who could do that. Oh
yeah, that'd be fun

2360
02:23:42,420 --> 02:23:45,990
you can have good and bad in
real estate but it's not like

2361
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:50,310
gold does the same thing. And he
was on his way to 2000 1100 now

2362
02:23:50,310 --> 02:23:52,620
that Yeah, even a house doesn't
make that kind of

2363
02:23:52,680 --> 02:23:59,610
Yeah, but But gold is portable.
Houses not so. Yeah. And I when

2364
02:23:59,610 --> 02:24:04,500
we left to go to England, I had
two houses to sell one was the

2365
02:24:04,500 --> 02:24:07,470
castle believe me good times.
And the other one is at least

2366
02:24:07,470 --> 02:24:12,120
the castle know that. I bought
that. And the and the house and

2367
02:24:12,120 --> 02:24:16,470
Amsterdam. I took a bath on the
house in Amsterdam. Like kept

2368
02:24:16,470 --> 02:24:22,020
it? Yeah. Oh, that's really
easy. No, no, but I made money

2369
02:24:22,020 --> 02:24:25,770
on the castle. And then I lost
all of it to my second wife.

2370
02:24:26,250 --> 02:24:29,040
Oh, there you go. function of
the real estate.

2371
02:24:30,240 --> 02:24:32,370
It's a function of my penis as
usual.

2372
02:24:33,090 --> 02:24:36,600
More gold from you. All right,
let's thank a few people who

2373
02:24:36,600 --> 02:24:45,120
helped us. Sir Don Barofsky, in
where are you in Spokane Valley

2374
02:24:45,120 --> 02:24:48,180
12345 And he has a note

2375
02:24:48,690 --> 02:24:50,700
which are we reading notes
again?

2376
02:24:51,150 --> 02:24:54,540
I have to read this note okay.
Because this note even though it

2377
02:24:54,540 --> 02:24:55,980
doesn't say that that'd be a
sixth

2378
02:24:56,670 --> 02:24:58,470
house for Mike India as write.

2379
02:24:59,010 --> 02:25:01,470
This note has to be You read
because it's on the United

2380
02:25:01,470 --> 02:25:06,090
Federation of Planets Starfleet
Command letterhead. I don't

2381
02:25:06,090 --> 02:25:10,380
really have a choice. I'm a bit
hesitant to send my contribution

2382
02:25:10,380 --> 02:25:13,440
I noticed that my check tends to
arrive when overall donations

2383
02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:18,480
are down. Show number 794 being
the latest example. Sure, I'd be

2384
02:25:18,480 --> 02:25:22,830
happy that might help arrives
when most needed or should I be

2385
02:25:22,830 --> 02:25:28,560
sad that somehow my contribution
brings bad karma conflicted in

2386
02:25:28,590 --> 02:25:36,240
Spokane Valley Washington, Sir
Donald of the fire hotties okay.

2387
02:25:36,690 --> 02:25:40,980
I don't know. I think just you
know, send those your cash.

2388
02:25:43,560 --> 02:25:47,370
Really blankets. Don't worry
about such things as a cycle.

2389
02:25:47,640 --> 02:25:48,720
Clay really?

2390
02:25:49,320 --> 02:25:53,160
I know a lot of people want to
send blankets or water. Just

2391
02:25:53,160 --> 02:25:54,090
send your cash.

2392
02:25:54,720 --> 02:25:57,000
If you want to listen to
something that horror which then

2393
02:25:57,000 --> 02:26:02,550
I said horror was as the last
show. Yeah, this does Adam curry

2394
02:26:02,550 --> 02:26:04,410
have like six arms.

2395
02:26:06,570 --> 02:26:07,920
Why? Why is that?

2396
02:26:08,130 --> 02:26:11,790
Because the way you handle the
production of the show. Oh,

2397
02:26:11,790 --> 02:26:13,860
yeah. If you're looking stuff
up,

2398
02:26:13,890 --> 02:26:16,560
thank you. But you know what, I
just want to make it look easy.

2399
02:26:16,590 --> 02:26:17,190
That's all.

2400
02:26:17,610 --> 02:26:21,180
Clay Gilliland and Chandler
Arizona $111 lemma says Robert

2401
02:26:21,180 --> 02:26:26,580
darland or Dolan probably dollar
and dollar DOL in Shelby

2402
02:26:26,580 --> 02:26:32,550
Township, Michigan. $100. Sir
Sir Dennis Stevens in Parker,

2403
02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:39,210
Colorado. He said No, when you
said some veterinarians to I

2404
02:26:39,210 --> 02:26:42,450
almost did a spit take with my
morning coffee. You definitely

2405
02:26:42,450 --> 02:26:45,060
should have given yourself an
ITM for that. I don't really

2406
02:26:45,060 --> 02:26:48,540
remember what I said. Anyway,
you deserve something we sit

2407
02:26:48,540 --> 02:26:51,060
down by doctors and use
veterinarians to

2408
02:26:51,090 --> 02:26:52,050
vote it was

2409
02:26:53,460 --> 02:27:00,090
killed it. You killed it. Jason
anyway, sir Dennis. In Parker,

2410
02:27:00,090 --> 02:27:07,020
Colorado. 100. Jason may Mayor
Mayor mayor in one Naki wished

2411
02:27:07,020 --> 02:27:08,880
Wisconsin 8888

2412
02:27:10,380 --> 02:27:13,620
Nov nine Oscar Lima Sierra seven
threes, yo.

2413
02:27:14,820 --> 02:27:22,260
Nicolas Rustavi Arista V perhaps
in San Bruno at anonymous in

2414
02:27:22,260 --> 02:27:25,290
Tallahassee, Florida 60s. By the
way, these donations drop off

2415
02:27:25,290 --> 02:27:29,190
rather quickly, which is
disappointing. Anonymous in

2416
02:27:29,190 --> 02:27:32,970
Tallahassee, Florida. 6666. And
we got a birthday coming up for

2417
02:27:32,970 --> 02:27:40,140
somebody guy nickels in
Harrison, Arkansas. 5705 Jeffrey

2418
02:27:40,140 --> 02:27:46,710
Sewell in y y and wy n dot y n
dot I think wi n dot

2419
02:27:46,890 --> 02:27:49,710
anyway. And guy Nichols says
he's going to be at the meetup

2420
02:27:49,710 --> 02:27:50,220
by the way.

2421
02:27:51,090 --> 02:27:54,660
Oh in Fayetteville Yeah. Yeah,
he's in Harris's Right, right.

2422
02:27:54,930 --> 02:27:59,190
Perfect. You can drive across
the Arkansas in easy within a

2423
02:27:59,190 --> 02:28:04,050
day easily. Within a few hours
actually. Jeffrey Sewell, you

2424
02:28:04,050 --> 02:28:06,840
should go to some do some cool
towns in Arkansas. I think

2425
02:28:06,840 --> 02:28:10,500
Arkansas is one of the prettiest
states in the country. People

2426
02:28:10,500 --> 02:28:11,220
don't really know that.

2427
02:28:11,250 --> 02:28:16,830
I was reading that the the FBI
has raided some guys. Some guy

2428
02:28:16,830 --> 02:28:21,030
like some of these Yeah. Yeah,
he they are they they rated as

2429
02:28:21,030 --> 02:28:23,520
high? Here's a photo. He's an
archivist, better known as a

2430
02:28:23,520 --> 02:28:27,480
hoarder. And he has all these
photo archives and I do think

2431
02:28:27,480 --> 02:28:29,070
that there might have something
to do with Hillary.

2432
02:28:29,490 --> 02:28:36,000
Yeah. I don't know good or bad.
No bueno. We don't know. But

2433
02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:39,660
they are being graded this guy
he's didn't want to talk to him.

2434
02:28:39,660 --> 02:28:43,470
They took raided his house and
his archives, which is a big

2435
02:28:43,470 --> 02:28:47,640
warehouse full of what he
apparently did as a hoarder was

2436
02:28:47,640 --> 02:28:50,160
go around from newsprint fold.
You know, as the newspapers all

2437
02:28:50,160 --> 02:28:51,420
folded, they all have

2438
02:28:52,830 --> 02:28:55,320
what are called Content content.

2439
02:28:55,530 --> 02:28:59,940
They have more physical morgues
microfiche, and no, microfiche

2440
02:28:59,940 --> 02:29:03,270
is different. The morgues are
the original photographs. And

2441
02:29:03,270 --> 02:29:05,490
you go in there and you have
this reminds me of a story. I

2442
02:29:05,490 --> 02:29:09,570
used to always tell him my
speeches. It turns out of the

2443
02:29:09,570 --> 02:29:15,390
morgue at the San Francisco
Examiner is about them. It turns

2444
02:29:15,390 --> 02:29:16,230
out that

2445
02:29:17,790 --> 02:29:21,090
Oh, it's okay. It's okay. Bring
it on. You can do it.

2446
02:29:21,120 --> 02:29:24,420
Let me set it up. Yeah. Here's
how I lead into I talked about

2447
02:29:24,420 --> 02:29:30,330
how Bill Gates, Bill Gates
claims that he never said 640 k

2448
02:29:30,360 --> 02:29:31,950
should be enough, which is uh,

2449
02:29:32,040 --> 02:29:34,980
and this is this is something
that we were just talking about

2450
02:29:34,980 --> 02:29:37,260
where you get attributed things
to you that may or may not be

2451
02:29:37,260 --> 02:29:37,560
true.

2452
02:29:38,070 --> 02:29:40,530
It may or may not be true,
because he turns out he never

2453
02:29:40,530 --> 02:29:44,310
did his early on, but he did
when it was 640 K was enough.

2454
02:29:45,570 --> 02:29:48,360
But he denied he says you can't
find any proof that I've ever

2455
02:29:48,360 --> 02:29:52,770
said this. There's no way I ever
said this. Which led me to the

2456
02:29:52,770 --> 02:29:55,920
story about the photos in the
morgue at the San Francisco

2457
02:29:55,920 --> 02:29:56,520
Examiner.

2458
02:29:56,550 --> 02:29:59,820
This is the photos in the morgue
at the San Francisco Examiner

2459
02:29:59,820 --> 02:30:02,130
store. by John C. Dvorak.

2460
02:30:02,760 --> 02:30:06,870
It turns out there was a bunch
of photos taken of Bobby Kennedy

2461
02:30:07,260 --> 02:30:13,140
in San Francisco. The day before
Marilyn Monroe was murdered in

2462
02:30:13,140 --> 02:30:18,840
Southern California. Those
photos have all gone missing.

2463
02:30:20,610 --> 02:30:23,820
Nobody can say they can even
prove he was there, which always

2464
02:30:23,820 --> 02:30:26,370
does lead me to believe that it
was Bill Gates who killed

2465
02:30:26,370 --> 02:30:27,300
Marilyn Monroe.

2466
02:30:28,110 --> 02:30:34,170
This is like George W. George H.
W. Bush, who couldn't remember

2467
02:30:34,170 --> 02:30:38,400
where he was on the day that
Kennedy was assassinated in

2468
02:30:38,400 --> 02:30:44,430
Dallas. Yeah, he can't remember.
Yeah, but he was in Dallas. We

2469
02:30:44,430 --> 02:30:46,800
have we have documents if he was
in Dallas.

2470
02:30:47,820 --> 02:30:52,260
Cleveland Wharton, not
admissions Tallahassee. 666.

2471
02:30:52,289 --> 02:30:53,459
I like your stories by the way.

2472
02:30:53,490 --> 02:30:56,130
I like them. guy knew well, you
know some work in some dough

2473
02:30:56,130 --> 02:30:58,770
guy. We already did guide
Jeffrey Schull in Wyandotte. We

2474
02:30:58,770 --> 02:31:01,890
did that. Why and that that's
the name Matthew drop. Cohen,

2475
02:31:01,890 --> 02:31:06,150
Delaware, Ohio. 55. Matthew by
now? Yes, sir. Matthew loving

2476
02:31:06,150 --> 02:31:10,890
light. RobCo with the world's
greatest last name. Sounds like

2477
02:31:10,890 --> 02:31:16,170
a company. I'm the president of
drop Co. Sir Brian Kaufman in

2478
02:31:16,170 --> 02:31:19,830
Phoenix, Arizona $50.50. And now
the rest of these are $50 donors

2479
02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:27,300
Joe shores. shores Bower. in
Florissant. Missouri. Sandy

2480
02:31:27,300 --> 02:31:32,580
Geisler in Watkinsville,
Georgia. Brandon menc. In Tempe,

2481
02:31:32,580 --> 02:31:39,120
Arizona, Jason Daniels in Parts
Unknown. Patrick MATCOM

2482
02:31:39,510 --> 02:31:48,030
surpassed you in New York City?
Duncan Sanders is no easy. We

2483
02:31:48,030 --> 02:31:53,220
didn't get anything from Duncan
Sanders. So that's a group as it

2484
02:31:53,460 --> 02:31:54,150
that's it?

2485
02:31:55,470 --> 02:31:58,080
Well, thank you. And of course,
a special thanks everyone who

2486
02:31:58,080 --> 02:32:00,870
does not get mentioned because
you're on a monthly programme,

2487
02:32:00,870 --> 02:32:04,500
which I encourage everybody to
do. It really helps a lot with

2488
02:32:04,500 --> 02:32:06,540
us particularly just send the
checks, you can do it

2489
02:32:06,540 --> 02:32:09,420
electronically. There's
information about that on our

2490
02:32:09,420 --> 02:32:14,400
page, which is which is which
is.org/and.

2491
02:32:14,460 --> 02:32:18,390
A now we need to do to make
goods somehow on showing

2492
02:32:18,810 --> 02:32:21,780
when it's a guy Nico says he's
got perpetual douchebag

2493
02:32:21,780 --> 02:32:25,140
syndrome. So you have to worry
about Don't you know, when you

2494
02:32:25,140 --> 02:32:26,610
shake your hands with them in

2495
02:32:27,870 --> 02:32:31,110
a wash? Well, I'll be shaking
with my right hand as I received

2496
02:32:31,110 --> 02:32:35,340
many, many, many comments that
yes, you wipe with your left you

2497
02:32:35,340 --> 02:32:38,640
eat and shake with your right I
got it. There was just a moment

2498
02:32:38,640 --> 02:32:39,810
of dyslexia that I had.

2499
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:43,500
Did you hear the I got a note
from one of the eagle scouts

2500
02:32:43,500 --> 02:32:47,100
that listen to the show. He said
that that's called the Boy Scout

2501
02:32:47,100 --> 02:32:47,730
handshake

2502
02:32:47,730 --> 02:32:51,000
the left hand with Tina who's
left he said, sorry to

2503
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:53,580
disappoint you. There's no
special handshake that she's

2504
02:32:53,580 --> 02:32:54,090
aware of.

2505
02:32:54,660 --> 02:32:57,720
There is it's the Boy Scout
handshake.

2506
02:32:58,500 --> 02:33:02,970
Well, I hope they're not doing
that after visiting the latrine.

2507
02:33:04,260 --> 02:33:05,130
Just saying

2508
02:33:06,420 --> 02:33:08,370
to make good sorry John
Robinette.

2509
02:33:08,430 --> 02:33:11,640
If you think about if you're
gonna go by the by the sterile,

2510
02:33:11,640 --> 02:33:16,080
you know the sanitation
rationale for the handshake,

2511
02:33:16,290 --> 02:33:19,800
which is the and you think of
the Boy Scout handshake being a

2512
02:33:19,800 --> 02:33:23,190
left handed handshake. I think
there's something to it.

2513
02:33:25,290 --> 02:33:27,450
Oh, man. Very nice.

2514
02:33:30,000 --> 02:33:31,080
Yeah, very nice.

2515
02:33:31,530 --> 02:33:32,790
Okay, onward.

2516
02:33:32,820 --> 02:33:34,740
Well, let me see I believe I

2517
02:33:34,740 --> 02:33:36,780
mean, I should have gotten it in
the morning for that. But

2518
02:33:38,490 --> 02:33:42,960
let me see somehow we missed.
Oh, I have to go retro actively

2519
02:33:42,960 --> 02:33:47,670
put them back on. We missed John
Robinette who donated $200 For

2520
02:33:47,670 --> 02:33:52,320
show at 800. And I guess I don't
know how that happened. We will

2521
02:33:52,320 --> 02:33:56,880
put him in the in the credits
appropriately for 801 and

2522
02:33:56,910 --> 02:34:02,250
colons. Sorry. 802. Well, no,
put them on. I can go back and

2523
02:34:02,250 --> 02:34:06,300
put them on 800. I'll give you
donated for 800. Yeah, okay, the

2524
02:34:06,300 --> 02:34:09,000
freedom controller has those
credit. He'll get his credit.

2525
02:34:09,540 --> 02:34:13,050
Colin Sloman he donated $80 and
also didn't make the list for

2526
02:34:13,050 --> 02:34:20,640
show 800. So apologies for that.
Okay. Anything else?

2527
02:34:21,300 --> 02:34:23,580
Well, I almost skipped the guy
today so it can happen.

2528
02:34:23,610 --> 02:34:27,270
Yeah. When we apologise it's,
you know, I got six, six arms.

2529
02:34:27,270 --> 02:34:36,990
He I can't do anything for you.
First, a belated birthday for

2530
02:34:36,990 --> 02:34:40,740
Colin Sloman who turned 55
Double nickels on February 17.

2531
02:34:40,740 --> 02:34:43,020
And we congratulate Scott
Thompson celebrating his

2532
02:34:43,020 --> 02:34:47,460
birthday today. There'll be 34
Jason Meier 40 years old on the

2533
02:34:47,460 --> 02:34:51,420
27th and anonymous says Happy
Birthday to mark Slager of

2534
02:34:51,450 --> 02:34:54,870
Tallahassee, Florida. He'll be
celebrating on the 28th Happy

2535
02:34:54,870 --> 02:35:00,480
Birthday boy buddies here the
best podcast on the universe. We

2536
02:35:00,480 --> 02:35:02,940
have a change of title of course
our massive donor today

2537
02:35:02,940 --> 02:35:05,220
anonymous who will be the
anonymous night in Colfax,

2538
02:35:05,220 --> 02:35:12,330
California and becomes the Baron
of Colfax, California. Huh? Was

2539
02:35:12,330 --> 02:35:15,210
that a different one? Was that
the guy who donated? No, no,

2540
02:35:15,210 --> 02:35:17,100
it's a different one is that
different anonymous?

2541
02:35:18,030 --> 02:35:21,150
Now this anonymous we don't know
he's from. I think it's a

2542
02:35:21,150 --> 02:35:21,810
different anonymous.

2543
02:35:21,810 --> 02:35:24,150
That's a different one. Do we
have the anonymous night in

2544
02:35:24,150 --> 02:35:27,360
Colfax, California. The
anonymous sign in Colfax

2545
02:35:27,360 --> 02:35:29,850
California becomes barren of
Colfax California.

2546
02:35:31,680 --> 02:35:32,460
One thing

2547
02:35:35,490 --> 02:35:40,650
holding we're in a holding
pattern standard turn right.

2548
02:35:42,300 --> 02:35:46,470
level off hit the ILS is
crossing get ready descend 300

2549
02:35:46,470 --> 02:35:47,610
Feet per Minute right yeah,

2550
02:35:47,640 --> 02:35:53,790
I'm just confused. Okay go is
fine. That's it okay. Go to

2551
02:35:53,790 --> 02:35:57,390
divorce that org slash peerage
yeah dot htm

2552
02:35:58,680 --> 02:36:02,040
because nothing says modern
times like a dot htm

2553
02:36:04,470 --> 02:36:07,590
is to make sure it was triple
nine that quadruple although Ms.

2554
02:36:07,590 --> 02:36:08,790
A thing for a foreign night.
That's

2555
02:36:08,849 --> 02:36:13,049
MSNBC, their websites this
website still uses a dot htm

2556
02:36:13,049 --> 02:36:15,989
which of course is a throwback
to their legacy of Microsoft

2557
02:36:15,989 --> 02:36:16,739
NBC.

2558
02:36:17,250 --> 02:36:20,460
Yes, yeah. When they should.
They could acquire

2559
02:36:20,460 --> 02:36:26,160
the whole divorce.org empire and
it would fit right in. All

2560
02:36:26,160 --> 02:36:29,280
right, we have a couple of nice
things here. We have a four we

2561
02:36:29,280 --> 02:36:34,710
have Roan kill, go Colin Sloman,
John J. Horner and Scott

2562
02:36:34,710 --> 02:36:38,880
Thompson if you could all be
careful of the blade. John. Got

2563
02:36:38,880 --> 02:36:42,210
it? Very good. All right,
gentlemen, come on up. It is

2564
02:36:42,210 --> 02:36:45,990
time to thank you. Thank you for
your contribution to the best

2565
02:36:45,990 --> 02:36:49,080
podcast in the universe that
enables us to continue doing the

2566
02:36:49,080 --> 02:36:51,840
show we take our Knights and
Dames very seriously and I

2567
02:36:51,840 --> 02:36:57,510
hereby pronounce the KT wrong
kilvo As Sir Turb leg of the

2568
02:36:57,510 --> 02:37:02,550
digital domain, sir Horatio of
Wandsworth, Blacknight Colin

2569
02:37:02,550 --> 02:37:05,820
Sloman and we have Sir John J.
Horner becoming Sir John the

2570
02:37:05,820 --> 02:37:08,910
brewer and Scott Thompson become
sir road Wolf, Knights of the

2571
02:37:08,910 --> 02:37:11,940
Toronto's and for you gentlemen
we have some low rent boys and

2572
02:37:11,940 --> 02:37:14,790
Chardonnay fry breads and Fen
bots, crickets and green black

2573
02:37:14,790 --> 02:37:18,510
holes and empty 2020 grammes and
GMT Saki and sushi malted barley

2574
02:37:18,510 --> 02:37:23,340
and hops, whiskey and wet bites.
Hot Manson booze, ginger ale and

2575
02:37:23,340 --> 02:37:28,500
journals. And mutton and Mead go
to no agenda nation.com/rings

2576
02:37:29,070 --> 02:37:31,530
Enter your information there and
we'll get to it as soon as

2577
02:37:31,530 --> 02:37:33,660
possible. Thank you again,
everybody for supporting

2578
02:37:34,440 --> 02:37:39,030
without, you know, show, that's
simply how it works. You nice to

2579
02:37:39,030 --> 02:37:41,550
see that podcasting, you know,
tend we've gone through this

2580
02:37:41,730 --> 02:37:45,690
several times. Now, Financial
Times and Forbes, and everyone's

2581
02:37:45,690 --> 02:37:50,790
saying, oh, we can't make money
in podcasting. Oh, okay. Hello.

2582
02:37:51,210 --> 02:37:55,380
This advertising thing people
I've told you about this. This

2583
02:37:55,380 --> 02:38:01,470
is not going to not going to end
well. And with that. Let's talk

2584
02:38:01,470 --> 02:38:06,120
about ad tech abuse, a new term
ad tech abuse, ad tech abuse,

2585
02:38:06,150 --> 02:38:17,310
new word, ad tech abuse. At the
mobile world, Congress 2016 and

2586
02:38:17,310 --> 02:38:25,860
buff. Ilona. There was a panel
and the panel had let's see a

2587
02:38:25,860 --> 02:38:29,580
couple of Yahoo and Google
executives. And they were on a

2588
02:38:29,580 --> 02:38:35,790
panel with the Chief Marketing
Officer of this outfit called

2589
02:38:35,790 --> 02:38:43,260
shine. Yes, this guy's name is
Roy Carthy. And apparently, the

2590
02:38:43,260 --> 02:38:47,040
Google and Yahoo guys, we're
just kind of going a little bit

2591
02:38:47,040 --> 02:38:49,830
now there's no video yet. So
this is I have something else to

2592
02:38:49,830 --> 02:38:52,140
play for this. There was no
video and I really wanted to get

2593
02:38:52,140 --> 02:38:56,130
it even got people in searching
formulas, there's nothing really

2594
02:38:56,130 --> 02:39:03,270
defined. And what is happening
is the shine outfit. They are an

2595
02:39:03,270 --> 02:39:08,730
ad blocker. But they're an ad
blocker that sits at the mobile

2596
02:39:08,760 --> 02:39:13,890
network operator level. So if
you are on your smartphone, and

2597
02:39:13,890 --> 02:39:16,320
you're not connected through Wi
Fi, but you're connected through

2598
02:39:16,320 --> 02:39:20,910
the the you know, your mobile
network, depending on which

2599
02:39:20,910 --> 02:39:23,700
mobile network and what do they
have with this with this outfit,

2600
02:39:24,120 --> 02:39:27,630
they have you will not ads will
be blocked or not it can be opt

2601
02:39:27,630 --> 02:39:32,880
in or opt out. And this is why
Google was Oh, well. Oh, no, no,

2602
02:39:32,880 --> 02:39:35,640
we're gonna You can't No, no, I
don't understand. This is why

2603
02:39:35,640 --> 02:39:38,430
everyone needs to be on the
Accelerated Mobile Pages, which

2604
02:39:38,430 --> 02:39:42,810
is called amp. This is their big
new push, and they're selling it

2605
02:39:43,020 --> 02:39:46,710
as Oh, this makes your ad load
really fast. It's highly

2606
02:39:46,710 --> 02:39:49,920
compressed. So you can still
have all those megabytes of crap

2607
02:39:49,920 --> 02:39:53,670
sitting in your little, little
ad units that bring in all kinds

2608
02:39:53,670 --> 02:39:57,900
of stuff. So don't worry. And of
course, once it's on amp, then

2609
02:39:57,900 --> 02:40:02,040
it's a part of the ad. Pay the
Google infrastructure it has

2610
02:40:02,070 --> 02:40:05,970
HTTPS Everywhere will be much
harder to block. That's why

2611
02:40:05,970 --> 02:40:08,640
they're selling that. But this
guy interests me a lot in this

2612
02:40:08,640 --> 02:40:14,160
company. This shine though it's
an Israeli company. And the guy

2613
02:40:14,160 --> 02:40:16,890
kind of talks well, he has a
little bit of that accent that I

2614
02:40:16,890 --> 02:40:22,170
have the but you remember AOL
AOL Shaheed at MVNO? Yeah, it's

2615
02:40:22,170 --> 02:40:26,370
like, like an AOL type guy. And
the Israelis man, they don't

2616
02:40:26,370 --> 02:40:30,570
give a shit about you, when they
just, they'll just ramrod you.

2617
02:40:30,930 --> 02:40:34,860
And this guy's entire position.
I have a clip when he was

2618
02:40:34,890 --> 02:40:38,550
sitting down on the panel, this
is from last December last year.

2619
02:40:38,790 --> 02:40:42,210
He's on a panel and on the panel
is Connor Moen, who's the

2620
02:40:42,210 --> 02:40:45,810
commercial director of RTE media
sales digital, which big

2621
02:40:45,810 --> 02:40:51,120
European RTE media big, big, big
European media company. So

2622
02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:53,310
here's the guy he's going to
eat. He says what is happening

2623
02:40:53,310 --> 02:40:56,880
here, and they started as a
malware company, which I liked

2624
02:40:56,880 --> 02:40:59,250
the pivot. Now the start is a
malware company that said, Wait

2625
02:40:59,250 --> 02:41:04,380
a minute, the real malware is
advertising, the interesting

2626
02:41:04,380 --> 02:41:09,000
stance and so they pivoted and
created this, the they're just a

2627
02:41:09,000 --> 02:41:12,960
technical company. And their
mobile operators can determine

2628
02:41:12,960 --> 02:41:15,960
how they use the ad blocking
services. This, of course, is a

2629
02:41:15,960 --> 02:41:19,830
huge problem for Facebook, for
Google for Yahoo, pretty much

2630
02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:23,310
for the entire online
advertising industry. So here's

2631
02:41:23,310 --> 02:41:25,980
this guy explaining ad tech
abuse,

2632
02:41:26,010 --> 02:41:28,500
how do you break down sort of
your view of Ad blocking

2633
02:41:28,530 --> 02:41:29,460
overall? Sure.

2634
02:41:29,490 --> 02:41:33,720
So Put very simply, we believe
the consumer has the right to

2635
02:41:33,720 --> 02:41:38,040
block ads everywhere, mobile
desktop everywhere. And in fact,

2636
02:41:38,100 --> 02:41:42,690
on desktop, it's very popular.
And ironically, Google is the

2637
02:41:42,690 --> 02:41:45,240
biggest distributor of Ad
blocking software in the world.

2638
02:41:45,630 --> 02:41:48,240
Funny how that would work. And
also, they're paying this quote

2639
02:41:48,240 --> 02:41:50,640
unquote, extortion fee to IO.
And I had

2640
02:41:50,640 --> 02:41:55,260
to stop that for a second. He
said off handedly. This is

2641
02:41:55,290 --> 02:41:58,200
extortion fee to I AG. Do you
know what that is? And what that

2642
02:41:58,200 --> 02:41:59,070
is in reference to?

2643
02:41:59,250 --> 02:42:00,600
You're gonna tell me Yeah,

2644
02:42:01,830 --> 02:42:10,320
I didn't realise this. I AG is
the thing is the key. Here we

2645
02:42:10,320 --> 02:42:16,410
go. Google, Microsoft, Amazon,
and Taboola are all paying the

2646
02:42:16,410 --> 02:42:21,960
owner of Adblock Plus to unblock
ads on their website at a fee of

2647
02:42:21,960 --> 02:42:26,190
30% of the additional ad
revenue, according to Financial

2648
02:42:26,190 --> 02:42:31,650
Times. So this is clearly the
business model for Adblock where

2649
02:42:31,650 --> 02:42:36,780
they were there and everyone's
trying to determine what ads

2650
02:42:36,780 --> 02:42:39,900
will be permissible and should
get through the ad blocking. We

2651
02:42:39,900 --> 02:42:45,510
heard the guy from Google what's
his name, the the new CEO, that

2652
02:42:45,510 --> 02:42:49,260
guy, but he was the Indian guy,
the Indian guy. He was talking

2653
02:42:49,260 --> 02:42:56,190
about acceptable agile now the
the industry, the interactive

2654
02:42:56,190 --> 02:43:00,840
advertising industry has come up
with a concept known as lean. So

2655
02:43:00,840 --> 02:43:03,960
these are the ads that will be
acceptable. And for a fee,

2656
02:43:03,960 --> 02:43:07,440
apparently, you can get through
your ad blocker. Lien stands for

2657
02:43:07,470 --> 02:43:12,630
light encrypted ad choice
supported non invasive ads. So

2658
02:43:12,630 --> 02:43:15,600
now there's going to be some
kind of councils. How does that

2659
02:43:15,600 --> 02:43:19,440
spell Elaine? Lea en light,

2660
02:43:20,760 --> 02:43:26,130
encrypted. Ad choice supported
non invasive ads, liens and

2661
02:43:26,130 --> 02:43:31,350
acronyms, okay. So that is where
the industry wants to go, we

2662
02:43:31,350 --> 02:43:34,020
need to create these. And that's
not what this guy wants, well,

2663
02:43:34,020 --> 02:43:36,300
we need to create these lien
ads, and then you can get

2664
02:43:36,300 --> 02:43:38,850
through an adblocker. So he's
talking about some extortion

2665
02:43:38,850 --> 02:43:42,150
fee, which is exactly what it
is. It's it's an extortion fee

2666
02:43:42,150 --> 02:43:47,100
that Adblock Plus is leveraging
on those corporations. But

2667
02:43:47,100 --> 02:43:50,340
that's not a bad idea. It's the
only idea. They're paying

2668
02:43:50,340 --> 02:43:53,880
this quote, unquote, extortion
fee to Iowa. So the world works

2669
02:43:53,880 --> 02:43:57,810
in funny ways. Now, our
technology specifically, is

2670
02:43:57,810 --> 02:44:02,940
targeted more at mobile
networks, where there's where we

2671
02:44:02,940 --> 02:44:04,890
feel there's a bigger
opportunity and where they feel

2672
02:44:04,890 --> 02:44:08,220
there's a bigger impact on
subscribers user experience,

2673
02:44:08,490 --> 02:44:10,530
they believe it's called
pollution, we remove that

2674
02:44:10,530 --> 02:44:13,050
pollution. We're not
philanthropists, we get paid for

2675
02:44:13,050 --> 02:44:16,500
it. That being said, our
technology works has been

2676
02:44:16,500 --> 02:44:20,880
tested, and is in discussions to
come to fix lines. So people

2677
02:44:20,910 --> 02:44:25,260
dislike advertising, not all of
them. But a lot of them, we

2678
02:44:25,260 --> 02:44:28,020
believe they should have the
right to block ads, they should

2679
02:44:28,080 --> 02:44:31,260
also have the right to switch it
back on in case they'd like to

2680
02:44:31,260 --> 02:44:35,370
see you know, the bill, for
example, or anybody else on

2681
02:44:35,370 --> 02:44:39,900
there to protect the consumers.
What I can say is this. I

2682
02:44:39,900 --> 02:44:40,320
remember that

2683
02:44:40,949 --> 02:44:43,259
you're not protecting the
consumers. You're enabling them

2684
02:44:43,259 --> 02:44:45,149
to not to get content for

2685
02:44:45,150 --> 02:44:49,020
free. No, I'm protecting them.
That's that's what we do. See

2686
02:44:49,020 --> 02:44:52,080
your achievements as we intended
at the get go to protect them

2687
02:44:52,080 --> 02:44:55,230
from malware and criminals and
such things. So

2688
02:44:55,230 --> 02:44:58,200
you've got sort of a door on the
side of the cinema and you're

2689
02:44:58,200 --> 02:45:01,710
like letting people sneak in
there. Free because they don't,

2690
02:45:01,920 --> 02:45:03,000
because they don't want to buy a
ticket.

2691
02:45:04,380 --> 02:45:06,930
I should mention this was an
interactive advertising

2692
02:45:06,930 --> 02:45:09,390
conference. That's what everyone
blood. Yeah, yeah, you're

2693
02:45:09,390 --> 02:45:13,230
enabling people to stealer ship.
Now. We have a social contract

2694
02:45:13,230 --> 02:45:13,560
man.

2695
02:45:15,000 --> 02:45:17,850
If you think that people are
using ad blocking to steal

2696
02:45:17,850 --> 02:45:21,060
content than you are completely
misunderstanding the situation,

2697
02:45:21,090 --> 02:45:25,500
this is a story of consumer
abuse period. This is a story of

2698
02:45:25,500 --> 02:45:29,580
continuation of Snowden, people
have drawn a line. And now they

2699
02:45:29,580 --> 02:45:33,300
can draw that line. A few days
before shine before Snowden,

2700
02:45:33,480 --> 02:45:35,610
there was no line to be drawn
because they didn't have the

2701
02:45:35,610 --> 02:45:38,940
capability. That's not true. If
you're resourceful, and if

2702
02:45:38,940 --> 02:45:41,730
you're talented, and if you're
creative, and the gods smile

2703
02:45:41,730 --> 02:45:44,220
upon you, you're gonna be
alright. Will there be

2704
02:45:44,220 --> 02:45:48,600
casualties? Absolutely. But this
contract that you speak about

2705
02:45:48,600 --> 02:45:52,650
does not exist, there was an
understanding, and overzealous

2706
02:45:52,710 --> 02:45:56,760
ad tech executives and
companies, and gullible, maybe

2707
02:45:56,760 --> 02:46:00,390
naive, maybe overzealous
publishers as well took some

2708
02:46:00,390 --> 02:46:05,700
very bad decisions, which worked
out real well, for a good amount

2709
02:46:05,700 --> 02:46:07,740
of time. And people may stop for

2710
02:46:07,740 --> 02:46:11,940
a second. Yeah, a couple things.
One, the argument of the guy

2711
02:46:11,940 --> 02:46:14,730
saying stealing content is you
could he could have countered

2712
02:46:14,730 --> 02:46:16,830
that with well, you know, when
you're reading through Vogue

2713
02:46:16,830 --> 02:46:19,710
magazine, you skip past the page
is that is again, an add on,

2714
02:46:19,710 --> 02:46:23,910
you're supposed to stop the
flood thing or you got a you've

2715
02:46:23,910 --> 02:46:27,030
got a special supplement. Oh,
advertising supplement is in the

2716
02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:29,310
middle of the pull it out, throw
it away? Is that stealing

2717
02:46:29,310 --> 02:46:31,380
content? No, none of that is
it's,

2718
02:46:31,590 --> 02:46:35,310
it's even worse. The this whole
if you look at the whole panel,

2719
02:46:35,310 --> 02:46:40,170
which is a couple hours, the
advertisers, or the I'm sorry,

2720
02:46:40,170 --> 02:46:45,300
the publishers really truly
believe that this is a deal. You

2721
02:46:45,300 --> 02:46:48,000
want our content, you have to
watch the ads, they're

2722
02:46:48,000 --> 02:46:48,810
delusional,

2723
02:46:49,440 --> 02:46:52,350
they throw another I'm gonna
throw another anecdote in there,

2724
02:46:52,350 --> 02:46:54,840
which I because I've talked to a
lot of people over the years

2725
02:46:54,840 --> 02:46:59,280
about website design and the guy
you know, you go to some website

2726
02:46:59,280 --> 02:47:02,400
and then all of a sudden you get
this pop up flash thing that

2727
02:47:02,400 --> 02:47:04,740
comes into the screen and covers
the whole screen Pinterest is

2728
02:47:04,740 --> 02:47:07,380
doing this now by the way, it's
called the towers the holes

2729
02:47:07,380 --> 02:47:09,990
holes can look at anything
without subscribing or doing

2730
02:47:09,990 --> 02:47:14,910
some screw you I just go on a
skip it. But it's the guys

2731
02:47:14,910 --> 02:47:18,120
telling me that designers they
will you know, we have designed

2732
02:47:18,120 --> 02:47:21,300
clean sites with the good spots
for as everything works fine. We

2733
02:47:21,300 --> 02:47:24,090
take it in and the guy the one
of the guys that works at the

2734
02:47:24,090 --> 02:47:27,300
company says well, can we do a
pop up? No, we don't want to do

2735
02:47:27,300 --> 02:47:31,170
pop ups people hate him. Let's
do them. And you can't get past

2736
02:47:31,170 --> 02:47:34,320
these, these eight holes that
run you know some of these some

2737
02:47:34,320 --> 02:47:37,830
of these executive a holes that
insist on this crap. They're the

2738
02:47:37,830 --> 02:47:39,240
ones who brought it on
themselves.

2739
02:47:39,270 --> 02:47:42,570
This is why I got that's what
he's saying. This is why I could

2740
02:47:42,570 --> 02:47:45,840
no longer work at my own
company. Because it became like,

2741
02:47:45,870 --> 02:47:50,700
oh, we need to do a homepage
takeover for GoDaddy. And, you

2742
02:47:50,700 --> 02:47:54,270
know, make the content cheap,
something that's like no, not

2743
02:47:54,270 --> 02:47:58,530
interested in that anymore.
Anyway, let's continue on good

2744
02:47:58,560 --> 02:48:03,030
amount of time. And people made
money, right over good content

2745
02:48:03,030 --> 02:48:05,550
and shitty content, right with
good technologies and bad

2746
02:48:05,550 --> 02:48:08,970
technologies. Those days are
over. So if you want to have a

2747
02:48:08,970 --> 02:48:13,290
conversation about whether ad
blocking will continue or will

2748
02:48:13,290 --> 02:48:16,410
disappear. That's not a
conversation, its effect.

2749
02:48:16,470 --> 02:48:19,890
Okay. So he stated his claim is
case quite clearly, I tend to

2750
02:48:19,890 --> 02:48:23,340
agree. But I think is very
interesting. I personally, I use

2751
02:48:23,340 --> 02:48:27,000
I like ad blockers. And I think
the the model that works for me

2752
02:48:27,000 --> 02:48:30,450
is when I go to fortune because
of some story. Fortune will say

2753
02:48:30,450 --> 02:48:33,660
stop, you got to disable your ad
blocker. If I really want to

2754
02:48:33,660 --> 02:48:38,400
look at that content. Then I
disable the ad blocker. And I go

2755
02:48:38,400 --> 02:48:42,510
in and watch. And then I've seen
supposedly some ads. The flaw

2756
02:48:42,510 --> 02:48:44,790
here and this is what the
advertisers Well, this is what

2757
02:48:44,790 --> 02:48:49,200
the publishers know, there's so
much fraud, that if so this

2758
02:48:49,200 --> 02:48:51,360
would bring you down to real
numbers, people who actually

2759
02:48:51,360 --> 02:48:54,780
want to look at the content, not
some click farm, who really

2760
02:48:54,810 --> 02:48:57,930
disabled the ad blocker to get
in. So it's not a very simple

2761
02:48:57,930 --> 02:49:01,590
automated process. Eventually it
can be done. Of course, it would

2762
02:49:01,590 --> 02:49:04,800
turn out that they have very low
viewership. And they would make

2763
02:49:04,830 --> 02:49:08,670
zero money because the ad rates
would come tumbling down even

2764
02:49:08,670 --> 02:49:12,780
lower than they are today. The
it's all a scam, there's a big

2765
02:49:12,780 --> 02:49:13,260
scam.

2766
02:49:14,220 --> 02:49:18,060
I'll interrupt again. Yeah,
sure. There is a one way of

2767
02:49:18,060 --> 02:49:21,270
looking at this. I was familiar
with a company that had a lot of

2768
02:49:21,270 --> 02:49:25,050
ads. And they were using this
tricks of buying these these, I

2769
02:49:25,050 --> 02:49:29,040
guess click farms or whatever
they are. And if you went to

2770
02:49:29,040 --> 02:49:32,760
Alexa, which is kind of
interesting, because Alexa is

2771
02:49:32,760 --> 02:49:36,990
not really I don't think it's a
really good model for figuring

2772
02:49:36,990 --> 02:49:39,030
out you know, how many people
are hitting this site or

2773
02:49:39,030 --> 02:49:42,690
whatever. But if you go to Alexa
on some of these sites that

2774
02:49:42,690 --> 02:49:47,370
you're wondering about, and you
look at the or or originating

2775
02:49:47,370 --> 02:49:51,030
countries that are sending all
these Philippines, the

2776
02:49:51,030 --> 02:49:56,970
Philippines, India, Indonesia,
and these are American companies

2777
02:49:56,970 --> 02:50:00,330
presenting American content for
Americans and why is it All the

2778
02:50:00,330 --> 02:50:03,930
Indians listening or the
Filipinos, why are they all

2779
02:50:03,930 --> 02:50:06,810
involved? It's clicking away at
this stuff that they're not.

2780
02:50:07,170 --> 02:50:08,880
These are where these companies
are located

2781
02:50:08,880 --> 02:50:13,260
scam, scam. Interesting IP is
very interesting. You bring that

2782
02:50:13,260 --> 02:50:19,260
up. So now in this in this last
clip, the Conor Molen guy who

2783
02:50:19,290 --> 02:50:23,940
then of course, he works at Rte.
He's the director of media sales

2784
02:50:23,940 --> 02:50:26,940
for digital, so he has to sell
this stuff. And this guy, he's

2785
02:50:26,970 --> 02:50:30,960
he's seeing his job evaporate,
because mobile is no doubt the

2786
02:50:30,960 --> 02:50:34,200
future this guy has already this
shine outfit. As I said, we're

2787
02:50:34,200 --> 02:50:37,530
working on fixed line and it'll
take a while. I think he only

2788
02:50:37,530 --> 02:50:41,280
has one customer right now
whenever this aired. But I like

2789
02:50:41,280 --> 02:50:44,040
the idea of that being blocked
at the network level. Of course,

2790
02:50:44,070 --> 02:50:46,110
we know what the network
operators are going to do.

2791
02:50:46,110 --> 02:50:48,330
They're going to start inserting
their own ads, we know that's

2792
02:50:48,330 --> 02:50:53,040
going to happen. But yeah, but
this guy, this this, this Conor

2793
02:50:53,040 --> 02:50:58,230
Molen, of RTE is so frustrated,
he he starts going at this guy

2794
02:50:58,230 --> 02:51:02,100
in the most idiotic way. And the
guy comes back with something

2795
02:51:02,100 --> 02:51:03,120
that just blew me away.

2796
02:51:03,150 --> 02:51:07,500
Now my current model is
advertising. So you block out my

2797
02:51:07,500 --> 02:51:13,440
advertising. The consumer is
still accessing my content. The

2798
02:51:13,440 --> 02:51:17,580
consumer is paying the network
operator, the network operator

2799
02:51:17,580 --> 02:51:21,840
is paying you. So both of you
can pay me and we do a revenue

2800
02:51:21,840 --> 02:51:23,910
share. Happy days.

2801
02:51:24,990 --> 02:51:28,320
What did aihole First of all,
what is he going to do next?

2802
02:51:28,320 --> 02:51:31,440
You're going to ask Cisco for
some money because the network

2803
02:51:31,440 --> 02:51:36,000
operator uses disco or something
is very bizarre. The days have

2804
02:51:36,000 --> 02:51:37,770
Well, Happy Days Happy Days.

2805
02:51:38,340 --> 02:51:41,100
Interesting idea. You should
approach your local carrier and

2806
02:51:41,100 --> 02:51:44,190
have a conversation approach
universe station. So

2807
02:51:45,390 --> 02:51:47,580
I want you to listen to I don't
want to step on it. So listen to

2808
02:51:47,580 --> 02:51:49,290
what he says. So

2809
02:51:53,220 --> 02:51:56,010
I think it's a valid I think
it's a valid argument. I think.

2810
02:51:56,250 --> 02:51:59,310
I don't think in fact, ideas of
fence would have come about

2811
02:51:59,490 --> 02:52:05,640
Ultimately though one copy role,
but at the same time, Shine is a

2812
02:52:05,640 --> 02:52:10,020
technology provider. We do not
provide policy, nor do we create

2813
02:52:10,020 --> 02:52:13,200
the enforcement policy at the
carrier level so you would have

2814
02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:15,450
to have that conversation with
them. Do I think that

2815
02:52:16,170 --> 02:52:22,140
paid by the carrier aren't you?
Yes. So I can take a share of

2816
02:52:22,140 --> 02:52:22,560
your revenue

2817
02:52:23,130 --> 02:52:28,110
you can take a share of
someone's revenue because we've

2818
02:52:28,110 --> 02:52:30,180
got a good racket going you're
not gonna be able to touch her

2819
02:52:30,180 --> 02:52:31,140
on Okay,

2820
02:52:31,140 --> 02:52:36,030
can you gotta Rakesh? Oh I can't
believe you said it.

2821
02:52:37,500 --> 02:52:39,660
Obviously, you can't have my
revenue. We got a good racket go

2822
02:52:39,660 --> 02:52:40,170
on here.

2823
02:52:40,470 --> 02:52:43,410
Yeah, that's a really good
racket. It's a racket.

2824
02:52:43,680 --> 02:52:49,410
Guy said it. Ah, yeah, it's a
great racket. It's a great idea.

2825
02:52:49,410 --> 02:52:52,260
I'm all for it. I'm all for it.

2826
02:52:54,930 --> 02:52:58,530
Yeah, the whole thing is a
racket. That's why we don't do

2827
02:52:58,530 --> 02:53:01,380
advertising. Yeah, because the
racket is why you should do

2828
02:53:01,380 --> 02:53:04,650
advertising. What should we do
advertising? Why ruins the whole

2829
02:53:04,650 --> 02:53:07,830
show? We can't do everything we
do get people that do right as

2830
02:53:07,830 --> 02:53:09,930
soon as as soon as well. I don't
know why I should give you any

2831
02:53:09,930 --> 02:53:14,250
money. You should do advertising
like everybody else. No. Is that

2832
02:53:14,250 --> 02:53:16,710
your voice about anything? If we
do advertise we can't talk about

2833
02:53:16,710 --> 02:53:17,160
anything.

2834
02:53:18,960 --> 02:53:22,860
Is that the voice they use?
Yeah. Are you got one I think we

2835
02:53:22,860 --> 02:53:25,320
should probably get out of here.
I gotta get the airstream get

2836
02:53:25,320 --> 02:53:25,470
off

2837
02:53:25,470 --> 02:53:30,120
hard. On we're hard off you
gotta get I gotta

2838
02:53:30,180 --> 02:53:32,850
I have a hard stop is what it's
called hard. Stop that. I have a

2839
02:53:32,850 --> 02:53:35,700
hard stop. I have a hard stop
everybody. Sorry. Hard stop.

2840
02:53:36,030 --> 02:53:39,000
This is where my system will
come in. Hi. Mr. Curry has a

2841
02:53:39,000 --> 02:53:40,440
hard stop at 220

2842
02:53:42,780 --> 02:53:45,060
So you're taking off you're
heading to Fayetteville.

2843
02:53:45,270 --> 02:53:49,680
Fayetteville? Fayetteville? Yes.
I've never been in well, I have

2844
02:53:49,710 --> 02:53:51,060
no wonder.

2845
02:53:51,360 --> 02:53:54,180
I'm telling you. You should stay
in Arkansas. You should go visit

2846
02:53:54,180 --> 02:53:57,240
like there's a town. I can't
remember it's called Buchanan or

2847
02:53:57,240 --> 02:54:00,120
something. I'd have to look it
up. But there is an antique town

2848
02:54:00,120 --> 02:54:05,220
on the border between Oklahoma
and we're gonna get by and I

2849
02:54:05,220 --> 02:54:07,560
mean when I say you really
you're gonna go back through

2850
02:54:07,560 --> 02:54:10,650
Oklahoma. Yeah, well then you
should stop at this antique

2851
02:54:10,650 --> 02:54:14,040
town. Do you know that it is an
old town I'll dig it up for

2852
02:54:14,040 --> 02:54:17,250
instance in email. It's somebody
may know I think it's called

2853
02:54:17,250 --> 02:54:20,310
Buchanan but it could be site
like just have one like this

2854
02:54:20,310 --> 02:54:24,690
town from the 1870s that's in
it's huge and it's intact.

2855
02:54:25,260 --> 02:54:26,910
I can't wait that sounds great.

2856
02:54:27,090 --> 02:54:29,910
I mean, it's over you all the
old bank and all these things

2857
02:54:29,910 --> 02:54:33,510
have been changed in two
tchotchke shops and you know

2858
02:54:33,540 --> 02:54:37,860
souvenir places but it is you
drive over the hill to on the

2859
02:54:37,890 --> 02:54:39,990
from coming in from the Oklahoma
side. You come over the hill and

2860
02:54:39,990 --> 02:54:43,380
you look down at this thing and
you go home. What is that and

2861
02:54:43,380 --> 02:54:45,540
you had to check the calendar.
Make sure you're not in the

2862
02:54:45,540 --> 02:54:52,050
twilight zone. And Arkansas, the
Ozarks are fantastic. There's a

2863
02:54:52,050 --> 02:54:54,660
white couple of wineries up
there in the mountains, Ozarks

2864
02:54:54,660 --> 02:54:57,450
and beautiful I should go up
there and get some wine from the

2865
02:54:57,450 --> 02:55:00,630
la familia, some or other
wineries. Oh, you send me

2866
02:55:00,630 --> 02:55:06,060
a little list man. I will and
And if anybody's coming to the

2867
02:55:06,060 --> 02:55:07,860
meetup come with ideas.

2868
02:55:08,369 --> 02:55:10,469
Yes, that's an envelope. So,
yeah, that's

2869
02:55:10,470 --> 02:55:12,390
very cool. All right, I'm
calling it we should get out of

2870
02:55:12,390 --> 02:55:12,660
here.

2871
02:55:12,989 --> 02:55:14,249
Okay, we're done. That was fun.

2872
02:55:15,299 --> 02:55:16,739
I do enjoy our job.

2873
02:55:17,609 --> 02:55:23,909
I do have the last clip to get
out. Oh, sure. Stop. Just play

2874
02:55:23,909 --> 02:55:26,879
gender weirdness and tell me
what this woman is saying.

2875
02:55:26,940 --> 02:55:29,340
Oh, second, gender weirdness.

2876
02:55:31,050 --> 02:55:34,590
It's hard enough being a college
student worrying about grades,

2877
02:55:34,620 --> 02:55:38,490
social life and what to do after
graduation. Aiden liong. has

2878
02:55:38,490 --> 02:55:39,810
even more on her plate.

2879
02:55:40,109 --> 02:55:43,499
For me, I identify myself as she
her he hid.

2880
02:55:43,769 --> 02:55:46,829
That's when Leon says changes to
restrooms at UC Davis couldn't

2881
02:55:46,829 --> 02:55:52,349
come at a better time. Okay,
thank you. I need that. The show

2882
02:55:53,610 --> 02:55:55,140
was good. He hurt him.

2883
02:55:55,170 --> 02:56:00,600
It was good talking to you Z.
Had a good time. Sure.

2884
02:56:01,500 --> 02:56:05,160
She heard she. She is Chinese.
So I guess it sounds Chinese to

2885
02:56:05,160 --> 02:56:06,240
say that we're going

2886
02:56:06,240 --> 02:56:07,830
to hell in a handbasket. People.

2887
02:56:09,960 --> 02:56:12,420
She heard he him she her

2888
02:56:12,480 --> 02:56:16,980
Jim z z. All right, everybody.
Remember us for the show on

2889
02:56:16,980 --> 02:56:21,240
Sunday. dvorak.org/na. Remember
us for the meetup coming up in

2890
02:56:21,240 --> 02:56:24,060
Fayetteville on Friday evening,
seven to 10 Remember us for the

2891
02:56:24,060 --> 02:56:28,230
forthcoming pub crawl where the
door correlates unplugged show.

2892
02:56:28,350 --> 02:56:31,860
And one final question, John. Do
you actually have Pinterest?

2893
02:56:33,300 --> 02:56:37,710
I don't know I don't use it.
Because I mean, I just right was

2894
02:56:37,710 --> 02:56:40,770
sent to a site to see some
pictures on Pinterest. And when

2895
02:56:40,770 --> 02:56:44,400
I went there, give me this big
pop up. You got to be a member

2896
02:56:44,400 --> 02:56:47,760
to login and pictures. And all
this stuff. And I never did this

2897
02:56:47,760 --> 02:56:50,220
happened to me a couple of times
is very annoying. I refuse to

2898
02:56:50,220 --> 02:56:51,270
join for that reason.

2899
02:56:52,350 --> 02:56:57,060
And where that's coming to you
from the skyscraper crackpot

2900
02:56:57,060 --> 02:57:00,360
condo in downtown Austin in FEMA
Region six in the morning,

2901
02:57:00,360 --> 02:57:02,100
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

2902
02:57:02,190 --> 02:57:05,580
and from Northern Silicon
Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak.

2903
02:57:05,610 --> 02:57:11,460
We'll be back on Sunday right
here on no agenda. Adios mofos

2904
02:57:15,990 --> 02:57:20,490
is following terrorists into out
of the country to Turkey into

2905
02:57:20,490 --> 02:57:26,250
series Thank you sir. Thank you
sir. Thank you sir. Thank you

2906
02:57:26,250 --> 02:57:31,170
sir. Thank you sir. Thank you
sir. Disgusting it is a complete

2907
02:57:31,260 --> 02:57:35,370
clusterfuck John this is getting
real complicated Josh remember

2908
02:57:35,820 --> 02:57:48,000
my little green men challenges
Oh, it's Cobra Oh of course

2909
02:57:48,000 --> 02:57:51,060
looked at the pictures of the
snakes on their planes what have

2910
02:57:51,060 --> 02:57:52,260
I been saying for years what

2911
02:57:52,260 --> 02:57:55,170
makes a good terrorist
organisation brand recognition

2912
02:57:55,170 --> 02:58:13,020
brand recognition of the history
of history not being challenged

2913
02:58:32,250 --> 02:58:37,800
is asking permission

2914
02:58:46,650 --> 02:58:49,800
be the machine be the machine

2915
02:58:55,980 --> 02:58:59,910
Little Green Men little green
men how do we challenge

2916
02:59:02,700 --> 02:59:22,860
challenges challenges to case
discuss the history of not being

2917
02:59:24,150 --> 02:59:38,370
a little green in China how do
we go into little green men

2918
02:59:38,460 --> 02:59:39,420
little green men

2919
02:59:39,960 --> 02:59:50,190
I get the the machine now what
this man is asking us to feed

2920
02:59:50,190 --> 02:59:52,920
the machine. I get new

2921
02:59:52,980 --> 02:59:53,850
Bernie Sanders

2922
02:59:56,550 --> 02:59:59,970
Well, there's a lot of attention
I'm actually right now it read

2923
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,340
No guns and range and I put
myself here because as you'll

2924
03:00:05,340 --> 03:00:07,830
see over my shoulder here,
there's lots of folks here who

2925
03:00:07,830 --> 03:00:11,490
believe that the Second
Amendment country is under

2926
03:00:11,490 --> 03:00:17,730
attack and say that short
distance away like Donald Trump

2927
03:00:21,540 --> 03:00:22,380
all the Republicans

2928
03:00:23,820 --> 03:00:30,840
protecting Donald speeches, he
supports the first supports the

2929
03:00:30,840 --> 03:00:42,720
second large from the crowd, is
that Trump has been saying he's

2930
03:00:43,320 --> 03:00:48,510
on Ted Cruz saying it here
today. While was Ted Cruz, his

2931
03:00:48,510 --> 03:00:56,100
very capable director. He used
him like a dog. Talk talking

2932
03:00:56,100 --> 03:01:03,150
about fired spokesman later
today.

2933
03:01:07,470 --> 03:01:17,280
No, no, no. No, no, no, no. No,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

2934
03:01:17,280 --> 03:01:23,520
no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

2935
03:01:24,420 --> 03:01:27,060
no, no. I have

2936
03:01:27,090 --> 03:01:30,330
tried in every way I know how to
level with the American people.

2937
03:01:37,020 --> 03:01:40,410
I remember landing under sniper
fire, we just ran with our heads

2938
03:01:40,410 --> 03:01:48,030
down to get into the vehicles.
Oh, my grandparents, you know,

2939
03:01:48,030 --> 03:01:53,610
came over here. And I do not
support gay marriage. I'm very,

2940
03:01:54,090 --> 03:01:56,910
very proud to say that I'm a
full supporter of marriage

2941
03:01:56,910 --> 03:02:02,850
equality. The server contains
personal communications from my

2942
03:02:02,850 --> 03:02:06,360
husband and me. I did two
emails. Otherwise, I didn't want

2943
03:02:06,360 --> 03:02:10,950
to be one. I have been a critic
of NAFTA from the very

2944
03:02:10,950 --> 03:02:19,800
beginning. I think that NAFTA is
proving its worth. If it's not

2945
03:02:19,800 --> 03:02:28,650
true, he's gonna bark. You're
asking me to say Have I ever I

2946
03:02:28,650 --> 03:02:31,980
don't believe I ever have I
don't believe I ever will. No,

2947
03:02:32,070 --> 03:02:38,220
I did. So in the course of our
work, this is in the two years

2948
03:02:38,220 --> 03:02:45,810
11 to 13 335 storylines that we
worked on, have been aired.

2949
03:02:45,900 --> 03:02:52,050
We've worked with 35 networks in
the past four years 91 different

2950
03:02:52,050 --> 03:03:13,980
television shows. Wash your
hands after touching any raw

2951
03:03:13,980 --> 03:03:15,030
meat and Joe Biden

2952
03:03:15,030 --> 03:03:16,980
and thank you for taking the
time to listen.

2953
03:03:21,960 --> 03:03:22,740
MoPhO

2954
03:03:26,820 --> 03:03:30,240
boruch.org/n A