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Usually I'm just spinning. Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday,

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December 20 2015. Time once
again if you get my nation media

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assassination This is episode
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This is no agenda,

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suffering from severe Hello
mania and broadcasting live from

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the capital of the drone star
staveren FEMA ringtone six in

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the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where the California Zephyr just

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went by am John C. Dvorak. Hill.

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Always happy when the Zephyr
goes by. Yep. Hey, we have a new

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human resource in the family.
John.

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You have mice?

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No. Avoid zero and his partner
Iris. They have a new human

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resource. Steven, born on the
morning of December 17.

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Steven with a V or a pH. With no
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Stephen if it was pH obviously.
Steven with a V. And the V.

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Congratulations,

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kid looks beautiful kid.
Unbelievable. Looks like a C

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section. Clayton. I have. I
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gotten the details yet. Code
early. No, no. It's how we won't

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be so healthy looking when it
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I think his name is Steven Ben
void zero. I'm not sure

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Stephen pin. Ben. Ben. Ben. Ben.
Oh, yeah. Steven pins pens. Not

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a bad combination of names.

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But that's not his name. We're
very happy for him.

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Yes, well, you might well
explain to the audience

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listening in what who?

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Yeah, we have our incredible
staff and management here at the

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best podcasting universe
consists of Eric the shill. Who

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does the preparation of the
spreadsheet and the donations

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and the nice things and the
rings etc. And then we have void

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zero. Who runs the entire
network? The the CDN, the

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streams that everything?

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Yeah, we don't have like a, like
a producer. We have a guy who

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does does this does the big
heavy lifting. Very few. I don't

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know of any other podcasts that
have that. They have what? A

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heavy lifter?

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No, most of them. No, I don't
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through some kind of, you know,
hosting service.

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They go through pod bean or they
use other thing pod. Pod track.

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No pod drag is a is not a
service. Oh, they

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don't? They don't host as well.
I don't think so. Okay. It

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matters not my friend.

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And no, it doesn't matter. Well,
I mean, it does to us, but to

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most people. Nobody cares. As
long as we get our stuff out.

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Yeah. So

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I was yes, yes. Yes. The debate?

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Well, I was surprised to see
that ABC did not pay the extra

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fee to request the overnight
ratings. i That doesn't happen

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very often. That you had to do
it that you have an event. And

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then you don't ask for the
overnights but they think that

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Malcolm and Republicans are all
on cable. All the debates have

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been on cable. I don't know. Why
did the Democrats getting

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network TV? I don't know. But
they put it on the worst time in

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the world.

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Well, it still gave them
approximately we think about 8

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million viewers. Not bad for
Saturday night on. On the

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network kind of hidden away.

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Well, yeah, they don't nobody
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Used to be an addition except

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he's in 60s. Except for y'all.
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Friday nights in our house.
Growing up Friday nights, Friday

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nights, we all stay home. We
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Now that workout.

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It worked out just fine. Really,

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really?

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Well. Let's start off with I got
a clip that we might as well

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start off with UK, which is
there was a you know, there was

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a pre promotion for the debates,
which was kind of a data breach?

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No, yeah, this was just in time
for a little bit of ratings or

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whatever the heck they were
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And besonders pointed out
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this, he said that this has
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made all this right, you know,
made a big stink about it. And

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he sent out press releases. But
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really notice that yet. Nobody
gets because you didn't have a

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debate the next day. Right? So
you wouldn't need to do that

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because this was all publicity
for the for the debates. But

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let's play. Sanders has a very
interesting explanation. None of

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this was brought out in any of
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about it. I don't know what he
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detail. This will be one clip
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burning in the breach. Bernie in
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the breach did did did

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it do the Clinton campaign
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breach of data and ethics and
said quote load, our data was

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stolen. Did they overstate this?
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essentially stealing part of the
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David, let me give you a little
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has hired vendors. On two
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in information two months ago,
our staff found information on

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our computers from the Clinton
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Stanford said, Whoa, what's
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the DNC quietly, went to the
vendor and said, Hey,

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can you just see I'm saying that
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there's gambling going on here.

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Something goes wrong. And that
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that information was looked at.
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exactly the right thing. A few
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happened, there was a breach,
because the DNC vendor screwed

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up. Information came Oh,

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hold on a second. Hold on. This
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would have been more appropriate
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a word as opposed to screwed up.

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Well, breach breach means that,
you know, it's not like the the

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data was pushing against the
levy and it breached. No, it's a

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breach because someone broke
into something. I'm just

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pointing out the words he's
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but he's implying that this is
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did overtly it just the data
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when I'm listening to this. I'm
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perspective that somebody
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campaign, yes. On Bernie side or
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likely, or is playing a dirty
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I believe there is a connection
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Hillary or the Hillary campaign.
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connection that I Oh, yes. He
was he strew stew Trev Villa

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Leon, the CEO worked for the
1992 Clinton Gore war room

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campaign. Hello, setup. Setup.
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stinky setup, dirty trick and
stinky, stinky, stinky setup.

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And what's her name that the
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Debbie Wasserman Schultz?

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The hair with a with a phoney
Baloney, Jheri curls?

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No, that's that's jus here.
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in on it. Yeah, of course. Of
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cameras focused on her during
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have Bernie using the word
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letting it slip that, you know,
hold on a second, something went

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on unless his words don't matter
the way he speaks.

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things ago, similar incident
happened, there was a breach,

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right? Because the DNC vendor
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our campaign in this case, I
will stay up did the wrong

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thing. They looked at that
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learned that they looked at that
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person. We are now doing an
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investigation to see who else
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have a real problem with and as
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problem. I recognise it as a
problem of what the DNC did

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arbitrarily, without discussing
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access to our own information,
crippling our campaign. That is

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an egregious act. I'm glad that
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resolved. Fourthly, it

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looks it doesn't go first,
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gives me last night on first it
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fourthly, do you when you get to
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late last night that was
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forward to working with
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investigation and independent
investigation about all of the

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breaches that have occurred from
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Because I am not convinced hold

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on all of the breaches from day
one day one. Mm hmm. And why is

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he shouting? Why am I shouting?

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Does that have occurred from day
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am not convinced that
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may not have ended up in her
campaign don't know that. We

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need an independent
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Secretary Clinton will agree
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last point. When we saw the
breach two months ago, we didn't

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run into the media and make a
big deal about it. And it

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bothers me very much that rather
than working on this issue to

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resolve it, it has become many
press releases from the Clinton

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campaign later.

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But Senator you do mentioned the
DNC the vendor, but you said of

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your staff that they did wrong.
Absolutely. The Secretary

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Clinton deserve an apology
tonight. Yes,

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I apologise. That was funny.

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Notice he didn't apologise and
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Just instantly. Not only do I
apologise the Secretary Clinton

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and I hope we can work together
on an independent investigation

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from day one, I want to
apologise to my supporters. This

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is not the type of campaign that
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there's a lot of info in that,
that he's given away. And I

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think the the fact that the CEO
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of the vendor that he's a
Clinton Insider. Having worked

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in the in the Clinton Gore war
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why did they even accept I guess
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accept it.

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The DNC does what? No, the DNC,
which Shultz and Clinton got

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together and Clinton said, you
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do this job. Why don't we just
give it to him to gig? And you

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know, and you help the campaign?
Well, he's that well, he's

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there. Because yeah, great. I
got a Sanders is a pain in the

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I got a note from one of our one
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works for the Republican
campaign in where is it? What's

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the four to five area code?

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Four to five? Well, let's find

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out once you sure. Anyway,
apparently there was a big

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conversation going on in? Well,
maybe this is let me see.

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Washington.

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Washington State. Okay. Make
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In Washington State, the
Democrats have opted to ignore

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the results of the primary and
select their delegates solely

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through the caucus process. They
have a primary. I'm just reading

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what was sent to me. I don't
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I mean, if you're going to do
the caucus, you don't have a

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primary. You just do the caucus.
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they'll they'll have a problem.
No, no have opted to ignore the

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results of the primary

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who had this. In other words,
they're just wasting the

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taxpayers money.

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This is one of your pet peeves.
Yes. So they're going to they're

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going to go through the caucus
process. That's according to the

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Republicans and the Democrats,
Democrats. But it's a Republican

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who's telling me this is
probably true. Because they're

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so trustworthy. You see,

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well, they had up in Port
Angeles is a big scandal, going

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to be part of Mimi's putting
together a slate to get rid of

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the City Council on what's the
scandal. The scandal is that the

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public voted to get rid of
fluoride because it's going to

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be renewed. And they said the
city council got the vote and

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said we're gonna keep it some
corruption. Figure out

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as like an Austin, they was I
think it was Friday night. They

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they voted in the legislation
for you know, to require Uber to

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pay livery fees to have
background check. It may be uber

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may not have the app menu, in my
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Same thing, all kinds of agendas
going on Austin, that high tech,

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city of the future, everybody

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in a dump Uber. No, no Uber for
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As I was watching, I was
watching schemes. A couple of

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the comments about the
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night from a television
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national anthem. Birth do the
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America? They they hate America.
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always have some, you know,

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you know, my feelings on this.

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Yeah, it's ridiculous. I know. I
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I think that's great. I mean,
why should they why are they

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wasting airtime? We see the net
we're gonna hear the national

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anthem. Like during this because
football, you know, is now all

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playoff games. So there's just
wall to wall football. Every

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game they have to play the
national anthem. I mean, I don't

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see it. Personally, I just say
it again. I've said it before. I

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know it's boring. I don't see a
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game or a baseball game for that
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US military or even the
government. It is a game

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somebody's playing now. So why
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anthem in front of

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it? And I'm okay.

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I'm okay. Got it. Let's play the
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everybody's late night talk
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Jimmy Kimmel, but first here's
the national anthem.

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It's it's a political thing and
you just expected if you know I

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don't know. I don't really Oh,
hold on. Hold on information

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man. New shit has come to
Stephen was not delivered via C

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section. What said the new human
resource. I just got new

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information.

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Oh, that's good. He was pushed.
It's better not to be delivered

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by C section. And he

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looks good. This kid

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should look good. Anyway, so I
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until you just mentioned it that
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Because who? Who's the I find it
awkward.

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I'm just talking from a
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that I would have had the fight
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pre production meeting. I think
we should have done the national

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anthem. Yeah, you would have
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fought

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lectured you like continued
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Second?

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Hillary's outfit. It was like a,
like a burlap sack.

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It was dreadful. And then they
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The fact that it

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was not good now, and her hair,
she hair look good while she was

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she was a helmet once again. And
she's frosted it. So she had the

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frost thing going on, which I
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think that's a good look for
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still be a little more platinum
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kind of grey was great.

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Now that we're in this meeting,
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also think that they did not
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on this thing where I thought
lame, and it wasn't flattering

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to Hillary to have her staring
at Bernie, with that kind of,

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you know schoolmarm, look

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well, also, who was the guy's
name? The ABC? Yeah, who is? No

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not by me the interviewers you
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more than Murer.

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So David Muir needs to go home.
He had zero control over Hillary

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Clinton. And it was embarrassing
and in the face of the grimaces

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he was making, but no, no, no,
you must stop. But she just

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doesn't give a crap. Just
steamrolled right through him.

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Oh, yeah. Which I'm sure is
exactly how she does policy

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meetings. Just shut up. I'm
talking.

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I here's what I don't get

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it was she actually from a
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standpoint, but also, she was
rude. She was rude. She was

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rude. And but it we couldn't
call which shot to take, you

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know, and the audio guys were
freaking out. Because really,

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what it results in is you don't
understand what anyone's saying.

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And then I've never had this
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And I was very disappointed that

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tonight. As you can see, we have
a packed audience here in New

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Hampshire. And we're gonna
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spirited conversation.

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This right here with there was
already something very wrong.

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I've been to many live
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they were in New York, I would
go to the Grammys when MTV still

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had, you know, so like me. And I
go to the Grammys, and then as

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we're in the commercial break,
everyone because it's a big

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industry thing, which I'm sure
of these debates are has a lot

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of industry people. And at the
countdown to the end of the

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break, it's like you must
everybody, you must want

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actually to do it more like we
have 30 seconds left. 30

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seconds. Please everyone be
seated, please be seated. And

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they have ushers going through
the aisles. Quickly, quickly,

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quick. Sit down. So now south,
south, south south should sit

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down. So now it's nothing. They
came back and everyone's still

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hanging, drinking martinis. It
looked like crap. And then to

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add insult to injury here

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at the top of the broadcast,
about ISIS about the concerns of

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terror here on the homefront.
And as we await Secretary

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Clinton backstage here, we're
going to begin on the economy.

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so of course, he wasn't
backstage, but what he's saying

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is Secretary Clinton is
backstage and she's not coming

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out.

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I want to turn to the Americans.
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found that awkward. Well, hold
on, listen to the whole thing,

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wages

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and raises in this country. And
we believe Secretary Clinton

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will be coming around the corner
any minute, but in the meantime,

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we want to start with this eye
opening number and Senator

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Sanders, this question goes to
you first and

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they actually started the next
question before Hillary was back

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on stage.

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In 1995. The median American
household income was $52,600 in

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today's money this year, it's 53
pounds in six months. That's 20

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more years on the job with just
a 2% Raise, in a similar

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timeframe racist for CEOs up
more than

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she didn't quit. Sorry, Shari.
All right, the epitome of

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rudeness. What was she doing?
What did she have to do that she

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couldn't come back? And more
importantly, why did production

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allow it to start? Why didn't
David Muir who has been

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belittled by this woman the
whole time say excuse me, Let's

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all call for Hillary Hillary
whatever just some don't just

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start the debate up again very
unprofessional

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on when I saw it, there's two
things I noticed with production

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was one is that the when they
went to when they came back from

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what or they did one of those
interstitial

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yeah and Anderson and someone
else talking.

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I'm talking about the the things
that the network's do nowadays

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to make it look like they're not
running for already commercials

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in a row. They do 20 commercials
and they come in says, and here

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we are at the Democratic base.
We'll be right back after this.

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Right. Right. And then they go
right back to commercials. They

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did something like that. And the
stage was the empty everybody

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was thought Yes, yes, yes. Now I
don't remember the Republicans

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but of course you couldn't do
with all these people but the

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Republicans stayed there ground
they stood their ground, they

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stayed at the, at the podiums,
these three guys, they three of

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them, they all left and they
came back and then Hillary

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didn't show up. And then she
comes wandering into a round of

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applause. He's making a
grandstand then she says sorry,

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which in a very wimpy way. What
what did it have you read

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anything this morning about the
explanation for this? What was

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she up to what

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what she used last time because
she was not really late on the

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previous debate, which is Oh,
I'm sorry, you know, takes me a

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little bit longer to go to the
restroom. She'd already used

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that one. I think she's
backstage and she's getting

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advice. You know, they're
telling her what to do.

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I think there's definitely she
is very prone to this. She needs

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lots of advice, which I find
distressing. I think it'd be

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funny if you if she actually
went to the control room and

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started complaining to the
director. No, I don't think

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that's what she did. But I think
that's funnier.

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I want but I wonder I wonder
what there's no reporting

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someone must know.

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Yeah, I'm sure she has six
staffers all talking to react

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should do this. Make sure you
don't do that. Do this. Do that

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turn left turn right. You know
don't smile more.

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It is also a total it's a jack
move is what it is. Is that Jack

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move. Jack move. was like a
power move. That's a douchebag

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move Jack move.

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I never heard this phrase. Yeah,
I'm learning it. What do you

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mean you're learning it? It's

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still millennial phrase. I'm
learning these things.

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The millennials say Jack moves

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Jack move. Yeah, Jack move is a
jack move.

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I gotta write this one down. It
asked the millennials

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the millennial.

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Okay, all right. Good.

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Jack move. So that was it was a
complete Jack move and then

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everything is just I don't know.

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I find it distressing when she
did that. And it's almost as

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though she that she's so it was
beside its insulted everybody

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and actually insulted the entire
idea of a of a Democrat debate.

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And then she comes back on
Shari, which and she said it in

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exactly the right demeanour.
exactly the right cuteness in

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there, which really, it's the
the Hillary lovers just loved

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her that much. Ha

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She's so cool. Oh, hello, Ray.

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Yeah, yeah. So they asked
Hillary about, you know, her

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connection to big corporations.
She's got some bullshit story,

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by the way. They have a lot.
There was a lot of bullshit in

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this thing from both sides, play
this play, play that. I have a

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clip here called two lies. I
want you to identify the two

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lies, short clip.

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Okay, two lies. Here we go.

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We now know that this couple had
assembled an arsenal. They were

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not on law enforcement radar.
They were completely undetected,

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or they

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were on law enforcement radar,

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and they weren't completely
undetected, but it was in 2012.

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Yes. So as we approach another
holiday with the President,

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again, saying late this week, no
credible threat. Secretary

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Clinton, how confident should
the American people be that

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there aren't others like that
couple right now in the US going

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undetected? And what would you
do as President to find them?

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Well, first, the most important
job of being President,

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obviously, to keep our country
safe and to keep the families of

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America safe.

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Dry drives me up the wall.

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Oh, I take it back. I take
myself back earlier. The

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California Zephyr just went by
that was that there was another

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train. This one. I want to stop
this show. Oh, this one had two

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private cars attached at the
end. And one of them was like an

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observation car from like the
1920s or something this gorgeous

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observation car. Yeah. No, I put
it Yeah, no, I put that payment.

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I put that into the clips to
piss me off.

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Yeah, love. Let's

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listen to it. Again. Others like
that couple right now in the US

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going undetected? And what would
you do as President to find

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them?

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Well, first, the most important
job of being President is

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obviously to keep our country
safe and to keep the families of

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America safe now.

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So the President when he was at
the Pentagon said something

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similar, but I want to I want to
show the there's a very subtle

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distinction. The the foremost
job of the president for those

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who of you who are new what what
the oath is of the President,

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the office of the president
United States is to protect and

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uphold the Constitution. It says
nothing about the first you

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know, first order of business is
to keep the American people say,

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now here's the president and he
has put a twist on it, which

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leads me to believe I have to
give him a pass. because he may

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have been listening

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as president and commander in
chief, ah, my highest priority

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is the security of the American
people.

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I think if you add commander in
chief to it, then then you're

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okay.

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Well, you're giving him the
benefit of the doubt on that one

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time pretty.

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I think you're, I think your
original stance, which I enjoy,

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because it's exactly the same.
is still correct.

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If there was a PBS newshour did
a there wasn't a video piece but

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on their, on their blog, they
did a piece, which titled Why

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what everyone's getting wrong
about the President's number one

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job and they explained the whole
thing specifically, that the

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number one job is to protect and
uphold the Constitution. So

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there are people thinking about
it. It's in the mainstream

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media, but still, no one seems
to care about the actual oath.

456
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,430
And I don't even think they're
protecting the Constitution with

457
00:26:02,430 --> 00:26:04,080
all their attacks on the Second
Amendment.

458
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,070
Well, no, well, it's not just
that they have to uphold the

459
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:12,900
Constitution uphold. Yeah. And
they're not attacking the Second

460
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,040
Amendment. They should that's
that's what I'm advocating for.

461
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:20,910
Attack the Second Amendment.
Don't attack feeble minded

462
00:26:20,910 --> 00:26:26,640
people, people who have medical
issues, mental issues, you know,

463
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,770
because here's, that's the
slope. You don't want to go

464
00:26:28,770 --> 00:26:29,130
down.

465
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,490
Here's the well, that's where
they're going. Here's one I

466
00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:34,710
thought was interesting. I
didn't know this. Apparently,

467
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:40,170
this is the movies Trump for
ISIS clip. Apparently, the ISIS

468
00:26:40,170 --> 00:26:44,850
is using Trump. They're making
movies. Yeah, using him to

469
00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:45,450
recruit

470
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,770
Yes, together. You are not our
adversary. You are our partner.

471
00:26:50,010 --> 00:26:53,820
And we also need to make sure
that the really discriminatory

472
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:57,570
messages that Trump is sending
around the world, don't fall

473
00:26:57,570 --> 00:27:02,820
unreceptive ears he is becoming
ISIS is best recruiter, they are

474
00:27:02,850 --> 00:27:08,130
going to people showing videos
of Donald Trump insulting Islam

475
00:27:08,130 --> 00:27:12,870
and Muslims in order to recruit
more radical jihadist. So I want

476
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:16,440
to explain why this is not in
America's interest to react with

477
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,520
this kind of fear and respond to
this sort of bigotry. Secretary,

478
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,030
thank you.

479
00:27:21,660 --> 00:27:25,740
Now, just while I'm on that,
just for a second move to the

480
00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:29,820
next clip, which is O'Malley who
decides he's going to why are

481
00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:33,060
they given Trump so much extra
publicity but here's O'Malley's

482
00:27:33,060 --> 00:27:34,710
bullcrap story are spent

483
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,520
to figure these things out true
to our American principles and

484
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,680
values. And oh my friend, cuz
she who was a doctor in

485
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,030
Maryland, back to the this issue
of our dangerous a democracy of

486
00:27:48,030 --> 00:27:51,120
turning against ourselves. He
was putting his 10 and 12 year

487
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:54,960
old boys to bed the other night,
and he is a proud American

488
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,490
Muslim. And one of his little
boys said to him, Dad, what

489
00:27:59,490 --> 00:28:03,210
happens if Donald Trump wins,
and we have to move out of our

490
00:28:03,210 --> 00:28:07,440
home? These are very, very real
issues.

491
00:28:07,469 --> 00:28:10,289
Did he make that pledge? Like if
Trump becomes president? I'm

492
00:28:10,289 --> 00:28:11,279
leaving the country.

493
00:28:11,639 --> 00:28:14,099
Did you hear by the way, he had
the worst?

494
00:28:14,879 --> 00:28:18,929
Yeah. No, don't get me started
because you know, then just

495
00:28:19,379 --> 00:28:23,969
gonna go. Hey, news flash from
ABC. Hillary Clinton campaign

496
00:28:23,969 --> 00:28:27,839
doubles down after experts
question claim about ISIS videos

497
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:36,089
using Donald Trump. Right. Okay.
Are you playing? I'm playing the

498
00:28:36,089 --> 00:28:38,849
clip, but it doesn't seem to
have a voiceover what is the No,

499
00:28:39,089 --> 00:28:42,779
no one was available. What's
available?

500
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:45,510
On standby Hillary

501
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:48,210
Clinton's communications
director defended her candidates

502
00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:50,790
claimed that ISIS is using
videos of Donald Trump to

503
00:28:50,790 --> 00:28:54,720
recruit members, but could not
point to specific events of this

504
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,030
happening in an interview on
This Week with George

505
00:28:57,030 --> 00:29:01,620
Stephanopoulos today. Of course,
Jen Palmieri said Clinton wasn't

506
00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:05,700
referring to a specific video on
Saturday's debate when she said

507
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:09,480
Trump's anti Muslim her rhetoric
is making him ISIS, his best

508
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,840
recruiter and that quote,
they're going to people showing

509
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,450
videos of Donald Trump insulting
Islam and Muslims in order to

510
00:29:15,450 --> 00:29:19,410
recruit more radical jihadist
Clinton offered no specific

511
00:29:19,410 --> 00:29:22,830
evidence of the claim. Quote,
she's not referring to a

512
00:29:22,830 --> 00:29:26,580
specific video, but he's being
used in social media by ISIS as

513
00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:30,450
propaganda. Oh, that's not the
same thing.

514
00:29:31,169 --> 00:29:35,939
Well, I got another clip. No,
it's not the same. She's a liar.

515
00:29:35,969 --> 00:29:37,379
Yeah, she knew let's get this
clip.

516
00:29:37,770 --> 00:29:43,080
I'm sure Rita Katz is getting
the call right now. Yes, yes, of

517
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,930
course. Of course. Make one
we're gonna make one no problem.

518
00:29:45,930 --> 00:29:47,880
Yeah. Do you want to be heading
into it as well?

519
00:29:49,290 --> 00:29:51,690
Really, cats of course, you
should get a little background

520
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:51,960
on her.

521
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:57,030
Rita cats. The Iraqi Jew who
started the SITE Intelligence

522
00:29:57,030 --> 00:30:03,090
Group as a bone to pick is not
the have biases partisan. And

523
00:30:04,050 --> 00:30:08,370
every single one of these great
videos that appear are found by

524
00:30:08,370 --> 00:30:13,530
her group first. Yes, they and
of course, they always refer to

525
00:30:13,650 --> 00:30:17,040
jihadist websites and dark web
and links and Twitter accounts

526
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,100
which are never ever, ever
published.

527
00:30:20,490 --> 00:30:24,420
So when we say the word Rita
Katz, that's what we mean. It's

528
00:30:24,420 --> 00:30:28,830
a trigger. It's a trigger word.
Now, now I got I got it just a

529
00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:32,130
trigger word in here in this
clip, I want you to identify it,

530
00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:35,070
see if you can identify the
trigger word. And I was actually

531
00:30:35,070 --> 00:30:38,880
surprised that Hillary was so
soft on encryption. But this is

532
00:30:38,910 --> 00:30:42,840
Hillary discussing the issue of
making apple in particular turn

533
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,810
over there. Yes. Yeah, turn over
their encryption. But listen,

534
00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:48,720
sorry, sorry, identify the
trigger word

535
00:30:48,750 --> 00:30:53,190
gather. But Apple CEO Tim Cook
said, removing encryption tools

536
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:56,970
from our products all together,
would only hurt law abiding

537
00:30:56,970 --> 00:31:00,810
citizens who rely on us to
protect their data. So would you

538
00:31:00,810 --> 00:31:04,080
force him to give law
enforcement a key to encrypted

539
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,450
technology by making it law?

540
00:31:07,710 --> 00:31:12,060
I would not want to go to that
point. I would hope that given

541
00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:16,440
the extraordinary capacities
that the tech community has, and

542
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,740
the legitimate needs and
questions from law enforcement,

543
00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:24,990
that there could be a Manhattan
like project, bringing the

544
00:31:24,990 --> 00:31:27,300
government and the tech
communities together to see

545
00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:28,110
they're not as

546
00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:32,370
I kind of missed that one of
Manhattan like project like the

547
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,140
nuclear bomb? Yeah.

548
00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:38,790
Yeah, that's what she said. But
back it up. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm

549
00:31:38,790 --> 00:31:42,390
gonna, because that's not the
that's that's the mean. But it's

550
00:31:42,390 --> 00:31:44,250
not the trigger words, I'm
hoping you identify of

551
00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:47,850
all started over and list those
together. But Apple CEO Tim Cook

552
00:31:47,850 --> 00:31:52,200
said, removing encryption tools
from our products all together,

553
00:31:52,350 --> 00:31:55,890
would only hurt law abiding
citizens who rely on us to

554
00:31:55,890 --> 00:31:59,130
protect their data. So would you
force him to give law

555
00:31:59,130 --> 00:32:03,450
enforcement a key to encrypted
technology by making it law?

556
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,030
I would not want to go to that
point. I would hope that given

557
00:32:09,030 --> 00:32:13,410
the extraordinary capacities
that the tech community has, and

558
00:32:13,410 --> 00:32:16,710
the legitimate needs and
questions from law enforcement,

559
00:32:17,220 --> 00:32:22,200
you mean, the extremely the
great capacity, the tech thing

560
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,180
guys have? No, it's not a
trigger,

561
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,230
that there could be a Manhattan
like project, something that

562
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:31,110
would bring the government and
the tech communities together to

563
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:34,050
see they're not adversaries,
they've got to be partners, that

564
00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:37,530
doesn't do anybody any good. If
terrorists can move toward

565
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,380
encrypted communication, that no
law enforcement agency can break

566
00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:47,280
into before or after, there must
be some way I don't know enough

567
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,060
about the technology, Martha to
be able to say what it is. But I

568
00:32:51,060 --> 00:32:57,240
have a lot of confidence in our
tech experts. Door is the wrong

569
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,360
door. And I understand what
Apple and others are saying

570
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:00,990
about that.

571
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,620
The tech experts Yeah. Which we
which usually calls the techno

572
00:33:07,620 --> 00:33:08,460
experts.

573
00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:11,460
Yeah, she's changed the tech
experts. I

574
00:33:11,460 --> 00:33:17,310
think we have in our techno
experts. Yeah. Okay, good. I'll

575
00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:18,120
play that. And

576
00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:24,180
techno expert to me is a DJ.
That's what we have. We got to

577
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,900
check the metal tonight. Check,
no expert.

578
00:33:30,959 --> 00:33:35,129
But what has happened now is
we've, you know, we had Comey

579
00:33:35,129 --> 00:33:37,949
and we had Johnson and what's
kind of certainly call me is

580
00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:42,029
doing a reasonable job of it, at
least for his own layman terms

581
00:33:42,029 --> 00:33:45,989
explaining why backdoors make no
sense. It doesn't. It's

582
00:33:45,989 --> 00:33:50,099
Meaningless, meaningless, unless
you have the data at rest and

583
00:33:50,099 --> 00:33:53,009
the data in transit problems. So
the data in transit problem,

584
00:33:53,159 --> 00:33:55,799
that's pretty much solved. We're
going to talk about that later

585
00:33:55,799 --> 00:34:01,199
in our tech news segment. But
the data and I'll actually I

586
00:34:01,199 --> 00:34:05,429
think the data as stored, unless
if it's stored in the cloud and

587
00:34:05,429 --> 00:34:08,729
not worried about it. They just
want to just get as much as they

588
00:34:08,729 --> 00:34:09,389
can I get

589
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:12,270
that blackmail. Yeah, it's good
stuff in there. You're gonna get

590
00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:16,470
stock tips. Holy crap. I just
had it. You know, what did

591
00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:20,550
mergers and m&a? Yeah, you'd be
all over it. You could win big.

592
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:25,020
Yeah. It's a fantastic deal.
insider trading all the way even

593
00:34:25,020 --> 00:34:26,940
though it's not really
technically it's not insider

594
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:27,480
trading?

595
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:31,740
No, not for people who are
willing even if you think

596
00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:34,980
about it as what would insider,
I think technically means that

597
00:34:34,980 --> 00:34:37,770
you have access to it. Well,
actually, it isn't sorted to get

598
00:34:37,770 --> 00:34:39,720
early access this information,
nobody else can

599
00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:43,020
trade on it, or if you want
information on but that's

600
00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:43,560
exactly what

601
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,680
you're looking for. So let's
just get a couple of these more.

602
00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:51,180
I got. I learned something. I
didn't realise what the latest

603
00:34:51,180 --> 00:34:54,510
thing they're going to do to try
to screw up the second amendment

604
00:34:54,510 --> 00:34:59,970
to get gun gun. stuff under gun
stuff. Go

605
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,420
and stuff Well done, sir. Well
played gun stuff.

606
00:35:03,630 --> 00:35:07,770
Good stuff is this I think about
this as being a strategy. But

607
00:35:07,770 --> 00:35:11,640
it's so obviously a strategy.
And this has got to have all the

608
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,660
gun guys really shaken
immediately if you noticed, most

609
00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:17,820
of you probably didn't even
notice what she's talking about.

610
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,720
But she played the gun immunity
clip and you'll figure it out,

611
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:27,540
I have voted not to give gun
makers and sellers immunity. And

612
00:35:27,570 --> 00:35:31,590
I also know that, and I'm glad
to see this, Senator Sanders has

613
00:35:31,590 --> 00:35:34,380
really moved in face of the
facts about what we're

614
00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:38,700
confronting in our country. I
know that he has said in the two

615
00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:41,610
previous debates that he wants
to take on this immunity issue,

616
00:35:41,610 --> 00:35:44,400
because we need to send a strong
message to the gun

617
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,660
manufacturers, to the sellers,
to the gun lobby. And I would

618
00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:51,720
hope, Senator Sanders, that you
would join the Democrats who are

619
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,500
trying to close the Charleston
loophole that you would sponsor

620
00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:59,970
or co sponsor legislation to
remove the absolute immunity, we

621
00:35:59,970 --> 00:36:03,840
need to move on this consensus
that exists in the country, it's

622
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,260
no longer enough just to say the
vast majority of Americans want

623
00:36:07,470 --> 00:36:10,560
common sense gun safety
measures, including gun owners,

624
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,370
but we need and only the three
of us will do this. Nobody on

625
00:36:14,370 --> 00:36:17,640
the Republican side will even
admit there's a problem. And in

626
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,030
whatever way the three of us
can. We need to move this agenda

627
00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:25,890
forward and began to deal with
the gun lobby. That they

628
00:36:25,890 --> 00:36:26,340
present.

629
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,940
Yeah, that's, that's, that's
what they're, I've seen this

630
00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:34,260
everywhere. Now. This seems to
be kind of the old bots go to is

631
00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:38,460
a new thing. Yeah. If if we make
gun manufacturers liable for

632
00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:38,820
death,

633
00:36:38,850 --> 00:36:43,530
it's, it's which this is not a
new idea. But it's a genius idea

634
00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:46,020
to kind of promote because they
slip it in that because it

635
00:36:46,020 --> 00:36:48,900
already the public's accepted
the vaccine manufacturers

636
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:53,370
immunity? Yes. And I think we're
getting a little annoyed by it.

637
00:36:53,370 --> 00:36:57,270
But the I this was like mostly
determined by the courts in the

638
00:36:57,270 --> 00:37:00,060
first place, which is you if
somebody buys a gun and then

639
00:37:00,090 --> 00:37:04,800
uses committed crime, how's it
the gun manufacturers problem?

640
00:37:04,830 --> 00:37:06,180
Why do they get sued?

641
00:37:06,810 --> 00:37:09,420
Well, their acquaintance what
they want to do, I'll tell you,

642
00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:13,170
they're equating it to tobacco
companies, and that they can be

643
00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:17,250
sued under certain in certain
situations, which has been very

644
00:37:17,250 --> 00:37:18,930
successful for some people.

645
00:37:19,230 --> 00:37:23,910
Yeah, I can see this the only
real analogue of the of this

646
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:29,520
smoking argument is if you buy a
gun, and you accidentally shoot

647
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,070
yourself, and you shoot
yesterday, right, you shoot

648
00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:35,340
yourself, well, why haven't
there altered? And everybody who

649
00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:36,990
has a gun shoots themselves?

650
00:37:37,050 --> 00:37:40,260
Haven't? Haven't there also been
secondhand smoke?

651
00:37:40,350 --> 00:37:43,050
I don't know. Those have gotten
very harsh or either.

652
00:37:43,590 --> 00:37:47,010
Don't try anything. That's okay.
I'm just sad. I mean, what just

653
00:37:47,010 --> 00:37:50,010
go for it. Just look when you
see the poll, actually, I have.

654
00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:55,440
Where was this? Yeah, here it
is. This is the view. The view

655
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,870
was freaking out about the most
recent poll, although they're

656
00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:00,330
not. It's my beat, by the way.
The view?

657
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,820
Yes. Very good.

658
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:06,180
So what I understand you wear

659
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:08,850
your underwear and eat popcorn
while you're watching the view?

660
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,590
No. Do you have a like a costume
or a uniform, you wear something

661
00:38:13,770 --> 00:38:16,470
that you routinely put on? I
usually

662
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:20,520
usually I'm just spinning in
front of not on the bike, but

663
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,870
I'm spinning on my hoverboard in
front of the TV, just riding

664
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:28,200
around, you know. And then when
I hear something, I'll stop stop

665
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,900
so that we get to record this.
So I think it was on the

666
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:34,320
previous episode of this
podcast, where we had the

667
00:38:34,350 --> 00:38:38,010
results in New York, New York of
all places, where now I think it

668
00:38:38,010 --> 00:38:43,380
was 52% of Americans polled feel
that there should be no ban on

669
00:38:43,380 --> 00:38:47,040
assault weapons because they're
afraid of the government's

670
00:38:47,070 --> 00:38:50,790
inability to protect them. So
that's not just more than ever,

671
00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:54,060
it is a majority, according to
the poll. So here's the views

672
00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:54,990
take on violence

673
00:38:54,990 --> 00:38:58,860
has been making headlines on an
almost daily basis this year. So

674
00:38:58,860 --> 00:39:03,240
tell me if this new poll
surprises y'all. Right now more

675
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:08,400
Americans are against a ban on
assault weapons than have been

676
00:39:08,430 --> 00:39:12,780
against it in the last 20 years.
And here's the thing let's be

677
00:39:12,780 --> 00:39:16,110
thoughtful about this. What is
the government supposed to

678
00:39:16,110 --> 00:39:19,890
protect you from Sandy Hook
didn't come from another country

679
00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:21,450
that came right out of

680
00:39:21,450 --> 00:39:23,940
here in Connecticut Connecticut
came out Have you

681
00:39:24,060 --> 00:39:26,760
listened to joy Beyonce? She's
in the back like you know caught

682
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,120
like in the church and the black
church in Connecticut. Kid

683
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,460
what's it called? Golden was
calling response right in

684
00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:36,030
Connecticut. North Dakota, North
Dakota. I'm sorry Colorado.

685
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:43,500
Please so many, many vape bombs

686
00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:48,660
came from big vein the guns
weapon white people here so what

687
00:39:48,660 --> 00:39:53,010
are we what is the government
supposed to do? Because it seems

688
00:39:53,010 --> 00:39:56,610
to me you know, you want to ban
people you want to ban people

689
00:39:56,610 --> 00:39:59,370
from comment? You want to build
a wall How about an assault

690
00:39:59,370 --> 00:40:01,380
weapon wall? Build a wall mount?

691
00:40:02,730 --> 00:40:04,530
Oh, yeah, let's build a wall
about that.

692
00:40:06,750 --> 00:40:07,560
She's nuts.

693
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,590
Well, yes, unfortunately,

694
00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:13,200
it's assault weapon wall. Yes.
Do that

695
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,130
that's a great idea.

696
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,040
That's just her attempt to being
cynical or sarcastic.

697
00:40:17,550 --> 00:40:19,170
Exactly, exactly.

698
00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:22,230
Well, it didn't work. No. All
right, onward. I got a couple

699
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:25,110
more. I got the packet lice
clip, if you want to play that.

700
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:27,450
Clinton PAC allies. Yeah.

701
00:40:29,250 --> 00:40:33,180
Secretary Clinton, you too have
ruled out a large US combat

702
00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:37,050
force, yet you support sending
in Special Operations Forces to

703
00:40:37,050 --> 00:40:41,100
Syria, and sending those 100 to
200 troops to Iraq to do

704
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:45,210
exploitation kill raids. We've
already lost one Delta Force

705
00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:49,710
member in a raid. It's looked
very much to me, like we're

706
00:40:49,710 --> 00:40:53,550
already in ground combat on
frequent trips I've made there.

707
00:40:53,790 --> 00:40:57,840
So are you fooling Americans,
when you say we're not putting

708
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,960
American combat troops back into
Syria or Iraq?

709
00:41:01,050 --> 00:41:02,250
No, not at all.

710
00:41:04,770 --> 00:41:06,870
That's pretty blatant. I love
it.

711
00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:11,760
No. Question of something. Like
I talked about my car.

712
00:41:12,210 --> 00:41:18,360
Well, now I believe that, you
know, we may be saying combat

713
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,960
Special Forces, but it's
possible that these are

714
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,620
mercenaries, this is Academy or
some hired guys. And that way

715
00:41:25,620 --> 00:41:29,700
you can kind of skirt around
Delta Force guys to Delta Force.

716
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,300
Yes.

717
00:41:30,420 --> 00:41:34,470
What we're facing with ISIS is
especially complicated. It was a

718
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:38,940
different situation in
Afghanistan. We were attacked

719
00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:40,350
from Afghanistan.

720
00:41:43,290 --> 00:41:46,140
What happened? What happened to
Pakistan? What happened to Saudi

721
00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:48,060
Arabia? What happened to Iraq,
which was

722
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,470
to Hamburg Germany?

723
00:41:51,210 --> 00:41:52,950
Yeah, that's a very good
question.

724
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:57,600
In Afghanistan. We went after
those who had attacked us.

725
00:41:58,020 --> 00:42:02,790
What's happening in Syria and
Iraq, is that because of the

726
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:06,480
failures in the region,
including the failure of the

727
00:42:06,540 --> 00:42:09,390
prior government in Baghdad, led
by Malik,

728
00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:12,480
I want plenty more of that clip.
It's just She's full of crap.

729
00:42:12,570 --> 00:42:16,590
But what to me was interesting
is it seemed like for whatever

730
00:42:16,590 --> 00:42:20,400
reason, ABC also felt it was
important to continuously focus

731
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,110
on the homeland and security and
Syria. And it was pretty much

732
00:42:25,110 --> 00:42:30,480
the same as as the Republican
debate. But the discourse, of

733
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,250
course, afterwards is, you know,
they're not warmongers? No, not

734
00:42:35,250 --> 00:42:37,620
at all. They're so much better
than everybody

735
00:42:37,620 --> 00:42:41,790
else. I don't see how they're
not worse. But yeah, I do have

736
00:42:41,790 --> 00:42:45,390
to say there was one I thought,
funny moment, and it was Bernie

737
00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:50,070
Sanders. After Clinton had gone
into a series of questions about

738
00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:52,260
what about your corporate
corporate actions? And all the

739
00:42:52,260 --> 00:42:56,790
rest of it? Oh, well, I've only
got 3% of my money. But you

740
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:59,760
know, we all work together. And
so they asked the exact same

741
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,820
question to Bernie who just went
off on them.

742
00:43:02,850 --> 00:43:06,210
Thank you, Senator Sanders. I
want to stay on this and ask you

743
00:43:06,210 --> 00:43:09,240
how big of a role does corporate
America play in a healthy

744
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,580
economy? And will corporate
America love a President

745
00:43:11,580 --> 00:43:16,200
Sanders? No, I think they won't.
Good line.

746
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,340
It was the line of the show.
That was good luck.

747
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,420
CEOs of large multinationals
made like Hillary Danka like me,

748
00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:30,360
and Wall Street is gonna like be
even less.

749
00:43:31,650 --> 00:43:32,730
And the reason for that

750
00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:37,830
is, these are these idiots
cheering their 401 k's are going

751
00:43:37,830 --> 00:43:42,240
to tank when Bernie Sanders is
cheering. I mean, seriously

752
00:43:42,270 --> 00:43:43,650
by Betty Boop, Adi

753
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,240
ain't gonna like me, and Wall
Street is gonna like me even

754
00:43:48,270 --> 00:43:48,750
less.

755
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,120
And the reason for that

756
00:43:52,530 --> 00:43:55,710
is we've got to deal with the
elephant in the room, which is

757
00:43:55,710 --> 00:43:59,580
the greed, recklessness and
illegal behaviour on Wall

758
00:43:59,580 --> 00:44:03,660
Street. When you have six
financial institutions in this

759
00:44:03,660 --> 00:44:07,710
country, that issue two thirds
of the credit cards, and 1/3 of

760
00:44:07,710 --> 00:44:11,670
the mortgages, when three out of
four of them are larger today

761
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:14,370
than when we bailed them out,
because they are too big to

762
00:44:14,370 --> 00:44:18,090
fail. We've got to reestablish
Glass Steagall, we have got to

763
00:44:18,090 --> 00:44:22,710
break the large financial
institutions. So I don't

764
00:44:22,740 --> 00:44:25,830
think I felt he missed an
opportunity. Was it him? Or was

765
00:44:25,830 --> 00:44:29,160
it maybe it was O'Malley railing
again on how we need a

766
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,360
modernised version of Glass
Steagall, which we might want to

767
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,660
point out was ripped apart by
Hillary's husband,

768
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:40,500
which Bernie did point out in
the debate he did. I thought he

769
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:43,200
alluded to it but didn't say no,
he pointed the finger Oh,

770
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:43,590
really.

771
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:51,210
I don't think I'm gonna get a
whole lot of campaign

772
00:44:51,210 --> 00:44:55,020
contributions from Wall Street.
I don't have a super PAC. I

773
00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:57,600
don't want campaign
contributions from corporate

774
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,570
America. And let me be clear,
unless it's From the sugar

775
00:45:00,570 --> 00:45:04,050
lobby, while there's some great
corporations creating jobs and

776
00:45:04,050 --> 00:45:08,550
trying to do the right thing, in
my view, and I say this very

777
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:09,210
seriously,

778
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,140
unlike all the other stuff you
said, which was bullcrap read Oh

779
00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:16,050
crap. I hate it when people do
that. You know, let me be

780
00:45:16,050 --> 00:45:19,290
honest. But the word frankly,
bothers me, frankly. Or let me

781
00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:20,700
be honest, despite the

782
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,600
dishonest the rest of the
probably frightened my talk. And

783
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,100
frankly, you weren't Frank
before?

784
00:45:26,130 --> 00:45:30,720
I think so. And I say this very
seriously. The greed of the

785
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:36,210
billionaire class, the greed of
Wall Street is destroying this

786
00:45:36,270 --> 00:45:41,310
economy. And as destroying the
lives of millions of Americans,

787
00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:46,020
we need an economy that works
for the middle class, not just a

788
00:45:46,020 --> 00:45:49,710
handful of billionaires, and I
will fight and lead to make that

789
00:45:49,710 --> 00:45:50,730
happen. Thank you.

790
00:45:54,510 --> 00:45:57,000
Well, that's where it gets the
millenniums, millenniums,

791
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:57,720
millennials,

792
00:45:57,780 --> 00:46:01,710
the millenniums the millennial
millennial? Like millennials,

793
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:08,730
I am a millennial and he gets
them because they're all dead.

794
00:46:08,730 --> 00:46:11,010
They're already dead. They're
experienced with the system has

795
00:46:11,010 --> 00:46:18,330
been negative, to say the least
no jobs debt to worst. So they

796
00:46:18,330 --> 00:46:20,640
all ended with this guy. So big
voting,

797
00:46:20,670 --> 00:46:23,520
and they got Big Mike and you
know, all kinds of people come

798
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,950
out of the woodwork to support
Bernie and I saw this morning.

799
00:46:26,850 --> 00:46:30,450
Just cruising through the Sunday
shows everyone's complaining

800
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,380
that Bernie doesn't get the
amount of press he should be.

801
00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:38,400
The media is not focusing on him
and bullcrap. I know.

802
00:46:39,450 --> 00:46:42,720
Before Trump came along to
Trump, everyone, he was getting

803
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:43,620
all the press.

804
00:46:44,430 --> 00:46:47,880
Bernie Yeah, he was doing very
well. And I agree. I agree.

805
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,500
But he hasn't said anything new.
So what's the cover? I mean,

806
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:55,770
Bernie's got me at least Trump
you have to give him credit as a

807
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,690
as a natural in terms of the
publicity angle. He always got

808
00:47:00,690 --> 00:47:03,840
new things to bring it out that
outrageous but oh my God, what

809
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,360
did he say now? Well, here's
what he has not done that and he

810
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:06,930
could

811
00:47:07,049 --> 00:47:13,679
hear is the latest. The latest
Trump stand up in which he

812
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:16,949
responds to Vladimir Putin
thinking Mr. Trump, good,

813
00:47:16,949 --> 00:47:18,149
intelligent guy who can

814
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:21,600
call him brilliant or not good?
Well, I do know he's this sort

815
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,470
of naive. I love his

816
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:25,680
mocking voice. He's, he's very
good at that.

817
00:47:28,770 --> 00:47:32,640
Putin called him brilliant.
That's not good. It's this sort

818
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,310
of nice if like countries are
always fighting with maybe we

819
00:47:35,310 --> 00:47:40,620
get along and let them do.
Right. Right. Like, you know,

820
00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:43,740
we're all tough guys. But
wouldn't it be nice if, like

821
00:47:43,740 --> 00:47:47,490
Russia and us could knock out an
enemy together? Not us bear the

822
00:47:47,490 --> 00:47:52,350
full cost sometimes, like, you
know, we're always fighting but

823
00:47:52,350 --> 00:47:55,740
I've had some guys say, oh,
Russia, how about one of our the

824
00:47:55,740 --> 00:47:58,770
people up in this? I wouldn't
talk to them. I wouldn't discuss

825
00:47:58,770 --> 00:48:01,020
anything I wouldn't talk. Then
what do they want to do? They

826
00:48:01,020 --> 00:48:04,860
want to have a world war three.
Okay, world war three. For what

827
00:48:04,860 --> 00:48:08,490
for? Right for what? They have
problems. We all have problems.

828
00:48:08,490 --> 00:48:11,610
Russia's got plenty of problems.
But I'll tell you what, if Putin

829
00:48:11,610 --> 00:48:15,330
likes me, and if he thinks I'm a
good smart person, which I hope

830
00:48:15,330 --> 00:48:18,360
he believes in I am actually
he's right. I am brilliant, you

831
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,070
know. But you know what, if he
says something positive, that's

832
00:48:23,070 --> 00:48:25,590
a good thing. That's not a bad
thing. They try and turn it

833
00:48:25,590 --> 00:48:28,980
around. And it's not to be
turned around. This is good.

834
00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:32,280
This would be a great start. If
you think about the money we

835
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,170
spend on fighting everybody.

836
00:48:34,530 --> 00:48:38,940
Yeah. Okay. Well, he talks about
what the media says here is a

837
00:48:38,940 --> 00:48:42,360
media report on this and I
believe this was a maybe see

838
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,820
this is Trump complemented by
Putin clip.

839
00:48:45,870 --> 00:48:48,210
In the meantime, on the
Republican side to know Donald

840
00:48:48,210 --> 00:48:50,760
Trump back into headlines this
evening after his eye opening

841
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,760
response to Russian President
Vladimir Putin who is now

842
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,330
praising Trump to make Trump
returning the favour but making

843
00:48:57,330 --> 00:49:01,200
headlines with what he said ABCs
David right on the Trump

844
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:01,650
campaign.

845
00:49:02,970 --> 00:49:07,440
Today a mutual admiration
society for two political strong

846
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:07,740
men,

847
00:49:08,609 --> 00:49:09,599
Donald Trump.

848
00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:16,320
Dr. Vladimir Putin praise Donald
Trump as quote, undoubtedly a

849
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,870
bright and talented person. When
people

850
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:22,230
do brilliant, it's always good,
especially when the person heads

851
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:22,890
up Russia,

852
00:49:22,980 --> 00:49:26,700
Jeb Bush tweeted a true freedom
loving conservative wouldn't be

853
00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:31,260
flattered by praise from a
despot like Putin hashtag chaos

854
00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:31,920
candidate.

855
00:49:31,980 --> 00:49:34,500
At least he's a leader, you
know, unlike what we have in

856
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:35,190
this country.

857
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,840
Again, he kills journalists that
don't agree with him.

858
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,190
Well, I think our country does
plenty of killing

859
00:49:44,190 --> 00:49:48,870
also, Joe. So there's a lot of
stupidity going on in the world

860
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:49,080
right

861
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:49,710
now, Joe

862
00:49:49,740 --> 00:49:53,730
that outraged the 2012 nominee
Mitt Romney who tweeted

863
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,500
important distinction. Sug Putin
kills journalists and our

864
00:49:58,500 --> 00:50:03,420
presidents killed terror and
enemy combatants. Dr. Ben Carson

865
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,480
seems okay with all this because
somebody's gonna pay your

866
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,730
compliment. And that seems to be
how Trump sees it too. David

867
00:50:11,730 --> 00:50:13,950
Wright, ABC News, News.

868
00:50:13,980 --> 00:50:17,280
Now, the little slip in there
that I thought was interesting

869
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,290
in terms of propaganda. He, the
guy that did the package said,

870
00:50:23,010 --> 00:50:28,320
described Trump and Putin as two
political strong men. How is

871
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,010
Trump? He's not even in
politics. He is running for a

872
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:37,050
debate to get into politics. So
how is he a political strong

873
00:50:37,050 --> 00:50:37,560
man?

874
00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:43,650
Who Trump Yeah, oh, he's a
political strong man by allowing

875
00:50:43,650 --> 00:50:47,010
everyone else to be his
political strong men against

876
00:50:47,010 --> 00:50:49,470
him. Something like that. I
don't know. There's no logic to

877
00:50:49,470 --> 00:50:51,900
help. Of course, there's no
logic. The whole thing is crazy.

878
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,310
But it's great to watch. And not
this debate, but everything

879
00:50:56,310 --> 00:50:59,760
around it is beautiful. Well, I
will we're having fun. Well,

880
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,500
there was a CBS did a poll one
of those where they had people

881
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:07,650
in the in the studio and they
asked them questions and yeah,

882
00:51:07,650 --> 00:51:11,520
that's it's a conversation. And
they had it was a Muslim focus

883
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,700
group, CBS, but they brought in
the Who's that right wing poll

884
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:17,370
guy? Lunch, I guess this is free
lunch

885
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,970
once Frank lunch. And I want to
I want to remind people since we

886
00:51:20,970 --> 00:51:25,230
follow this guy, he's the one
after the first debate when

887
00:51:25,260 --> 00:51:28,110
Trump was starting to make
inroads after his announcement

888
00:51:28,110 --> 00:51:30,840
for president and they had the
absolute first debate, which was

889
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:36,330
on Fox, where they attack Trump
and Kelly. Kelly, what's Megan

890
00:51:36,330 --> 00:51:40,500
Kelly Megyn Kelly was went after
him. And it was a big deal. They

891
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:44,580
had to they had LUNs at the
lungs or lunch, whatever is

892
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:49,170
lungs, l un tz Yeah, lunch, they
had lunch at the end. And he had

893
00:51:49,170 --> 00:51:52,800
a bunch of people that were
broad spectrum. And the and he

894
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,080
made all sorts of conclusions.
We have the clips, if they're

895
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,310
too hard to find where he says,
All the everybody hated Trump,

896
00:51:59,310 --> 00:52:03,030
he's gonna fall into polls and
probably drop out. Oh, yeah,

897
00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:07,140
going to lunch is great,
accurate analysis of the public.

898
00:52:07,170 --> 00:52:09,810
So this is where this guy is
coming from. He's a he's a

899
00:52:09,810 --> 00:52:10,470
student. Oh,

900
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:13,260
he's a paid student. He will
give you the results you desire.

901
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:14,580
But I think he mainly locks

902
00:52:14,580 --> 00:52:17,040
obviously wanted to him to go
after Trump. But it was, but

903
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,570
this was CBS. And well, that's
what's owners another day. Yes,

904
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,830
exactly. So this proves the
theory. And there's been a

905
00:52:25,830 --> 00:52:29,340
couple of articles about this
particular focus group where

906
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,280
people who were in it late and
you should never allow this to

907
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,190
happen if you're doing focus
groups, but okay, should be NDA,

908
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:38,280
you know, like, like a national
security letter. People say, Oh,

909
00:52:38,310 --> 00:52:41,580
no, they, you know, they picked
out all the pieces where I said

910
00:52:41,580 --> 00:52:45,960
this, I said that. And here is
there's a little kicker at the

911
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,720
end, mainly, the person speaking
at the end of this 32nd Clip

912
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:49,200
actually did

913
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,590
a call out to Muslim parents
across the country to not watch

914
00:52:52,590 --> 00:52:54,720
the Republican debate in front
of their children.

915
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,740
This is, so there's a Muslim ah,
and she's sitting there and

916
00:52:59,010 --> 00:53:02,640
saying, you know, I said, hey,
people, don't let your children

917
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,280
watch the debates because of the
hate the Muslim hate because

918
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,610
I knew that that subjecting our
children to hear the hateful

919
00:53:09,390 --> 00:53:12,960
stereotyping and the lumping of
Muslims with a terrorism in

920
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,490
front of our children is
actually something that is

921
00:53:14,490 --> 00:53:15,990
psychologically impacts them so

922
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:20,460
and show me some children who
want to watch this crap. Less

923
00:53:20,460 --> 00:53:22,860
Bernie Sanders is holding a
lightsaber, they're not going to

924
00:53:22,860 --> 00:53:23,790
be interested. That's how

925
00:53:23,820 --> 00:53:25,020
deep this is for us. But

926
00:53:25,020 --> 00:53:28,470
don't you want the kids to know
the challenges that they face? I

927
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:28,620
don't

928
00:53:28,620 --> 00:53:32,250
want my children to be subjected
to racism and vilification of

929
00:53:32,250 --> 00:53:35,910
their faith. I will not allow
Donald Trump to tell my kids how

930
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:38,370
they should feel about being
Muslim. Right? How many

931
00:53:38,370 --> 00:53:40,230
of you are physically afraid?

932
00:53:40,890 --> 00:53:43,920
Because you're physically
afraid. Now listen to this last

933
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,310
guy.

934
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,000
There's a most increase in hate
crimes. That has been reported

935
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,860
through the Council on American
Islamic Relations.

936
00:53:50,550 --> 00:53:54,060
Last lady, I mean, I'm sorry.
Yeah, these were care people,

937
00:53:54,060 --> 00:53:58,800
John. Yeah, there was just I
don't understand when did care

938
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,670
become a trusted source?
Certainly after they're sorted

939
00:54:02,670 --> 00:54:07,500
history of front grouping for
terrorist organisations?

940
00:54:07,650 --> 00:54:12,000
Yeah. I don't know. Why are
these these these are the

941
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,560
bonehead editors at these
operations at CBS in this case,

942
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,410
and of the other networks. They
bring them all out all of them,

943
00:54:19,410 --> 00:54:22,740
bring them on because of the
there's other groups out there

944
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,220
Muslim groups that are very
middle of the road, it's

945
00:54:26,220 --> 00:54:30,030
probably conservative to that
you could bring on if you just

946
00:54:30,030 --> 00:54:34,020
looked around and just went down
to the phone book list. Google

947
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:37,110
that. But no, they keep bringing
these care people and that's all

948
00:54:37,110 --> 00:54:41,280
they bring on. And now they have
Frank Luntz who's just, you

949
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,390
know, I don't trust anything he
says. Not after watching that

950
00:54:45,420 --> 00:54:47,700
the way he did with the fox
thing when they it was obviously

951
00:54:47,700 --> 00:54:51,210
given the go ahead and go after
Trump. And with all kinds of

952
00:54:51,210 --> 00:54:54,840
conclusions that never panned
out. Well, it looks like he's

953
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,340
through, right.

954
00:54:56,820 --> 00:55:00,360
Something else odd happened in
the political room. porting

955
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,000
industry and it's always fun
when it's the paper of record

956
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:08,730
the New York Times. I'll read
here a story published by New

957
00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:11,730
York Times late Thursday night
call some major media waves. The

958
00:55:11,730 --> 00:55:13,920
story which was written by
reporters, Peter Baker and

959
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,100
Gardner Harris included a
remarkable admission by Obama

960
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:19,770
about his response to the recent
terror attacks in Paris in San

961
00:55:19,770 --> 00:55:24,720
Bernardino, California. However,
the entire passage containing

962
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:29,160
Obama's admission, which was
here it is in his mind, so he

963
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,770
had a private meeting with
columnists. This is what you do

964
00:55:31,770 --> 00:55:34,650
when you need to get the
propaganda machine rolling. In

965
00:55:34,650 --> 00:55:37,470
his meeting with the columnist
Mr. Obama indicated he did not

966
00:55:37,470 --> 00:55:41,310
see enough cable television to
fully appreciate the anxiety

967
00:55:41,310 --> 00:55:44,250
after the attacks in Paris and
San Bernardino and made clear

968
00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:48,180
that he plans to step up his
public arguments. So the New

969
00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:53,340
York Times published that but
then erased it. They removed

970
00:55:53,340 --> 00:55:55,830
that entire paragraph from their
story, at least on the on the

971
00:55:55,830 --> 00:56:00,540
online version, and they
replaced it with something that

972
00:56:00,540 --> 00:56:03,960
not did not at all reflect what
the President apparently said.

973
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:09,300
So let's just listen first to
say, Listen, this is the

974
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:10,080
allegation. I think the

975
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,320
New York Times says it was just
trying to save space wanted,

976
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,890
from an earlier story, a
stunning admission by President

977
00:56:16,890 --> 00:56:19,830
Obama, that he essentially
underestimated the public's

978
00:56:19,830 --> 00:56:23,580
reaction to recent ISIS terror
attacks. This quote was in the

979
00:56:23,580 --> 00:56:26,790
original version of last night's
time story, quote, in his

980
00:56:26,790 --> 00:56:30,360
meeting with the columnist, Mr.
Obama indicated that he did not

981
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,500
see enough cable television to
fully appreciate the anxiety

982
00:56:34,590 --> 00:56:38,340
after the attacks in Paris and
San Bernardino. That section was

983
00:56:38,340 --> 00:56:42,240
eliminated and replaced by two
paragraphs that had more words

984
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:45,330
than the original sentence,
calling into question the times

985
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,340
explanation about saving space.

986
00:56:47,370 --> 00:56:53,160
Okay, so the conspiracy theory,
websites one went for space

987
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:58,050
today, they went nuts. So the
times is lying, of course. But I

988
00:56:58,050 --> 00:57:00,570
think, you know, I'm trying to
think really, did he really say

989
00:57:00,570 --> 00:57:03,330
this, and then the New York
Times are moved, and I'm the

990
00:57:03,330 --> 00:57:07,050
first guy to jump on any kind of
mainstream media conspiracy. I

991
00:57:07,050 --> 00:57:10,110
think Charles Krauthammer
actually had the correct

992
00:57:10,110 --> 00:57:12,090
analysis about what really
happened.

993
00:57:12,299 --> 00:57:17,279
Well, look on this story about
the meeting with the journalist

994
00:57:17,279 --> 00:57:22,709
and him saying that this is all
hyped up. You know, he didn't

995
00:57:22,709 --> 00:57:26,309
see it on cable. I think I
wasn't there. But I think, of

996
00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:32,489
course, I wasn't there. But to
me, he was being sarcastic. He

997
00:57:32,489 --> 00:57:36,719
was it is a way of dissing, of
sort of showing condescension to

998
00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:40,439
the rabble at that this is Obama
essentially saying, Well, you

999
00:57:40,439 --> 00:57:42,539
know, the reason people are
upset about this because it's

1000
00:57:42,539 --> 00:57:47,219
been hyped on television, and
they are not as cool intelligent

1001
00:57:47,219 --> 00:57:51,749
as farseeing as I am. This is
his usual professorial

1002
00:57:52,019 --> 00:57:52,979
condescension,

1003
00:57:53,069 --> 00:57:56,819
I believe that to be the right
answer. I like it sounds totally

1004
00:57:56,819 --> 00:58:00,149
believable. Because, of course,
you never know the context of

1005
00:58:00,149 --> 00:58:02,309
the written word. And so
probably could

1006
00:58:02,310 --> 00:58:04,230
have said, I don't want you
know, he could have any

1007
00:58:04,260 --> 00:58:08,220
reference cable television. You
know, he could have been very

1008
00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:10,800
sarcastic when he says, You
know, I don't watch a lot of

1009
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,600
that cable television. I'm

1010
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,760
sure that's exactly what he
meant. And that's why the New

1011
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,210
York Times had to retract it
because it was misleading. And

1012
00:58:18,210 --> 00:58:21,450
also, it's really, you know,
it's bad enough for him to say,

1013
00:58:21,450 --> 00:58:23,850
Oh, I'm out of touch I haven't
watched which I don't think he

1014
00:58:23,850 --> 00:58:26,820
said, well, then they say, Oh,
you stupid morons getting all

1015
00:58:26,820 --> 00:58:30,600
riled up by buying cable news
and nut jobs. Stupid.

1016
00:58:30,660 --> 00:58:34,770
unintelligent. You're no elite
like me. Yeah. And that is

1017
00:58:34,770 --> 00:58:36,090
actually more egregious.

1018
00:58:36,690 --> 00:58:40,830
Yeah, it is. That was good. That
was a good I think that is the

1019
00:58:40,830 --> 00:58:41,460
analysis. I

1020
00:58:41,460 --> 00:58:43,530
agree. I agree doesn't happen
often.

1021
00:58:44,610 --> 00:58:45,720
It does once in a while.

1022
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,910
And with that, I'd like to thank
you for your courage and say in

1023
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:50,610
the morning to you John C.
Dvorak.

1024
00:58:51,150 --> 00:58:53,370
Good morning to you Mr. Adam
curry in the morning old boots

1025
00:58:53,370 --> 00:58:57,120
on the ground feet in the air
subs underwater and all the

1026
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,110
dames nights out there

1027
00:58:58,140 --> 00:59:00,960
in the morning everybody in the
chat room. No agenda stream.com

1028
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:06,120
in the morning to nick the rats.
Once again, slamming at home

1029
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:11,220
with the artwork for Episode
Seven 782 The title was lumpy

1030
00:59:11,220 --> 00:59:14,280
lips, and I've not got a call
yet from the Dutch press about

1031
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,660
it. And of course the the album
art was a Jeb Bush with it with

1032
00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:21,540
a big, big coke bottle glasses.
Fabulous

1033
00:59:21,570 --> 00:59:24,900
vacation. Fabulous. Fabulous.
Yeah, we had some trouble with

1034
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:27,780
this one. And we must explain it
because we did have PewDiePie

1035
00:59:27,810 --> 00:59:34,080
Yeah. Who is digging pretty
hard. I had a really good piece

1036
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,050
that we were going to kind of
use but we figured we can use it

1037
00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:41,370
more as an evergreen. And the
that was the moment you could

1038
00:59:41,370 --> 00:59:45,660
not look at the George Bush with
coke bottle glasses on George

1039
00:59:45,660 --> 00:59:49,050
Jeb, Jim and I keep going and
George Jeb Bush with a coke

1040
00:59:49,050 --> 00:59:53,160
bottle glasses on a night kind
of laugh because it's just

1041
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,400
stupid. And you Oh, by the way,
I think they've had they've

1042
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,940
changed his prescription. I
think they're making him wear a

1043
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,360
It's not such an outrageous
prescription because I noticed

1044
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,580
in the last face his eyeballs
weren't as big in the glasses.

1045
01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:09,540
Okay, is usually I mean, I
remember seeing where it's like

1046
01:00:09,540 --> 01:00:13,470
holy crap. The eyeballs were
huge. They filled up the hole,

1047
01:00:13,530 --> 01:00:15,180
you know he must be blind.

1048
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:19,410
I'm looking at the at this the
size of the spreadsheet today

1049
01:00:19,410 --> 01:00:21,990
because that's how we determine
how we're doing. That's our

1050
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:22,590
stats.

1051
01:00:22,620 --> 01:00:25,440
Yeah, well, this is again, we
enter the holidays on.

1052
01:00:26,069 --> 01:00:29,669
I'm going to take the blame. I'm
going to take the blame. You

1053
01:00:29,669 --> 01:00:30,059
wait,

1054
01:00:30,090 --> 01:00:32,280
yeah, you might take the blame,
but you don't know what you're

1055
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,360
taking the blame for?

1056
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,090
Low donations.

1057
01:00:38,850 --> 01:00:41,070
Mark, can you be responsible?

1058
01:00:41,220 --> 01:00:45,210
Because I told you sloths were
trending. And I think the sloth

1059
01:00:45,210 --> 01:00:51,090
did us in. Oh, oh. And besides,
we can't do the sloth anymore.

1060
01:00:52,020 --> 01:00:55,170
Why? Because I figured out why
it was trending. And now we

1061
01:00:55,170 --> 01:00:56,310
sound like shills.

1062
01:00:58,350 --> 01:00:59,820
All right, tell me the brand

1063
01:00:59,820 --> 01:01:02,250
new Disney movies Zootopia.

1064
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,260
Drew, this is awesome before we
got to 1030

1065
01:01:13,380 --> 01:01:16,020
on a plate wash is the fastest
guy in there. He can run the

1066
01:01:16,020 --> 01:01:19,170
plate like wait,

1067
01:01:19,950 --> 01:01:21,930
they're all slots?

1068
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:25,530
Everybody at the post office is
a sloth.

1069
01:01:26,730 --> 01:01:27,990
Well, that's an insult.

1070
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,510
Are you saying that because he's
a sloth? He can't be fast. Flash

1071
01:01:33,540 --> 01:01:34,500
under yard dash.

1072
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:38,520
Okay, so well that's kind of
insulting to the Postal Service.

1073
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:45,060
Yeah. If I was them, I think
this is Disney. This Disney? Oh,

1074
01:01:45,150 --> 01:01:49,800
they're not gonna be getting
their mail. Steak. I do have

1075
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:50,850
union I

1076
01:01:50,850 --> 01:01:53,340
do have an old an alternate
idea,

1077
01:01:53,700 --> 01:01:56,340
by the way. So we do. What
you're saying is we're unknowing

1078
01:01:56,340 --> 01:01:59,880
dupes the worst class. Yes, we
have to stop the sloth

1079
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,800
promotion. Unknowing dupes.

1080
01:02:01,830 --> 01:02:06,030
I would like to, I would like to
switch. Oh god, there's nothing

1081
01:02:06,030 --> 01:02:07,800
cuter than baby hedgehogs.

1082
01:02:08,550 --> 01:02:10,200
Hedgehogs are cute. Yeah, okay,
we'll

1083
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,630
do a hedgehog and Hedgehog
hedgehogs for the win.

1084
01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:15,270
I thought you were going to
apologise for the fact that

1085
01:02:15,330 --> 01:02:18,690
because it's the Christmas
season which when it begins,

1086
01:02:18,690 --> 01:02:22,590
which it began, right after our
last show. People started

1087
01:02:22,590 --> 01:02:28,530
heading now you can see it on
the freeways. We would do some

1088
01:02:28,620 --> 01:02:31,380
evergreen shows or some
interviews with some old shows

1089
01:02:31,380 --> 01:02:35,580
to just take two weeks off, like
all media does. Everybody in the

1090
01:02:35,580 --> 01:02:38,580
media they're all well, we'll be
back in two weeks. We'll see you

1091
01:02:38,580 --> 01:02:38,970
next

1092
01:02:38,970 --> 01:02:43,470
year also makes our job a lot
harder. Because everyone's

1093
01:02:43,470 --> 01:02:46,980
running retrospect. Even the
President did a top 10 of 2015

1094
01:02:46,980 --> 01:02:50,370
in his in his podcast today. Who
cares?

1095
01:02:52,170 --> 01:02:53,490
Top 10 What

1096
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,340
top 10 of great things he's
done. I guess it's kind of the

1097
01:02:56,340 --> 01:02:59,940
idea. I'm great. Here's what I
did for you for the world.

1098
01:03:00,810 --> 01:03:07,440
Well, we could do that. Yeah. So
So this begins a two week period

1099
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,490
where you just so little money
comes in. Although is all kind

1100
01:03:11,490 --> 01:03:16,110
of at least one guy our our vi
count even though it doesn't

1101
01:03:16,830 --> 01:03:20,370
push it to be a like count but
that's what he is. Sir Richard

1102
01:03:20,370 --> 01:03:27,000
Bagwell came in with
$1,234.36 123456 Number

1103
01:03:27,030 --> 01:03:32,760
beautiful Louisville, Kentucky.
And he he sent a check in which

1104
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,090
is probably the way to do it.
And it says here's this is his

1105
01:03:36,090 --> 01:03:40,500
fifth annual donation of one two
threes, right? That's

1106
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:42,690
right. That's right. Every year
he does it. That's right. He

1107
01:03:42,690 --> 01:03:43,590
does it every year.

1108
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:47,370
And he says all the world wants
his job karma. I've done this

1109
01:03:47,370 --> 01:03:52,770
the past four years and karma
has been good to me. So good. I

1110
01:03:52,770 --> 01:03:57,240
get to continue paying playing
it paying it forward by

1111
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,600
supporting the best podcast in
the universe. Beautiful. Cheers

1112
01:04:00,630 --> 01:04:01,470
our S

1113
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:05,490
Well thank you very much. And
he's Vikon does he have a

1114
01:04:05,490 --> 01:04:06,150
protector?

1115
01:04:06,810 --> 01:04:10,800
He's never given he doesn't he
all he does is contribute this

1116
01:04:10,860 --> 01:04:14,760
one donation a year of a very
large amount. And he doesn't

1117
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,490
push anything. I'd give him
Kentucky personally but he

1118
01:04:17,490 --> 01:04:19,710
doesn't. He hasn't chosen he's a
freelancer

1119
01:04:20,010 --> 01:04:23,730
if he doesn't want to enrol in
all right he's a jobs Carmen.

1120
01:04:23,730 --> 01:04:26,280
Thank you so much for your
annual contribution. We

1121
01:04:26,310 --> 01:04:27,900
appreciate jobs,

1122
01:04:28,050 --> 01:04:35,010
jobs, jobs and jobs That's
karma.

1123
01:04:37,770 --> 01:04:41,340
And now to our regulars, we got
three Associate Executive

1124
01:04:41,340 --> 01:04:47,580
Producers juiced use the Yoast
Yoast Yoast, I got it. Yep.

1125
01:04:47,850 --> 01:04:52,380
Yoast SEO shipper Hain very
close,

1126
01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:56,220
super high end shipper. haymes
paper, I can't do that. Hey, you

1127
01:04:56,220 --> 01:05:01,710
can't say it's like British
accent man. Super High is in

1128
01:05:01,710 --> 01:05:06,990
Eindhoven. 250 bucks and he says
shipper behind right there and

1129
01:05:06,990 --> 01:05:11,730
the shipper is super high. I
cannot do that.

1130
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:17,070
No, I think I've mentioned that
in World War Two in order to see

1131
01:05:17,070 --> 01:05:24,330
if in the Netherlands, see if
there were German spies or any

1132
01:05:24,330 --> 01:05:27,510
other kind of spy they would
make people you know, kinda like

1133
01:05:27,510 --> 01:05:29,340
the US had who won the World
Series?

1134
01:05:29,580 --> 01:05:33,360
Yeah. The like baseball You're a
dead man is right.

1135
01:05:33,690 --> 01:05:36,210
The the Dutch version I think
this showed up in soldier

1136
01:05:36,210 --> 01:05:38,160
Warren's the movie if you've
never seen it. That's a great

1137
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:42,000
movie to watch. The world is
safe running at

1138
01:05:43,350 --> 01:05:44,640
Chez finning, and there you

1139
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,790
go. You're fired. I mean, the
guy's like really fire like you

1140
01:05:47,790 --> 01:05:53,700
spy saving, shaping things.
havening it?

1141
01:05:54,390 --> 01:05:56,310
Well, I would go in as a mute.

1142
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:08,340
A good one. Another tip. Another
wartime tip from John C. Dvorak.

1143
01:06:10,290 --> 01:06:18,000
Riley Kimball in San Tan Valley
in Arizona. 23456 amazing shows

1144
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:24,210
lately. Oh my god. That is thank
you for your courage. Give me an

1145
01:06:24,210 --> 01:06:28,980
I Love Bugs followed by don't
laugh with a touch of karma. Oh,

1146
01:06:28,980 --> 01:06:29,070
he

1147
01:06:29,070 --> 01:06:36,180
wants dandruff. Yeah, okay. I
love bugs. And then Raph and

1148
01:06:36,180 --> 01:06:38,730
we'll do some karma with that. I
think we can handle that. Let me

1149
01:06:38,730 --> 01:06:55,980
see why you are laughing Shut up
who's like blue Shut up. You've

1150
01:06:55,980 --> 01:07:04,650
got that's the Chinese foreign
minister. This Japanese Japanese

1151
01:07:04,650 --> 01:07:05,550
foreign minister. Yeah.

1152
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:10,770
Game Joanie. Town West Virginia.

1153
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:11,640
Joni. Dr.

1154
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:18,060
Frey duffer. Dava Friday 200
bucks. Merry Christmas and a

1155
01:07:18,060 --> 01:07:20,940
Happy 2016 John and Adam love
you guys and thank you so much

1156
01:07:20,940 --> 01:07:24,900
for watching the idiot box so I
don't have to you keep me saying

1157
01:07:25,050 --> 01:07:30,570
requests jingles? How about
ISIS? ISIS baby. Resist we much

1158
01:07:30,750 --> 01:07:35,730
never gets old she says And
Obama No, no, no. And throwing a

1159
01:07:35,730 --> 01:07:38,760
holiday karma for you guys and
all the producers. love and

1160
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,230
kisses Dame Joanie,

1161
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:44,460
sir which Obama? No no, no, no,
no, no. Are we near we think

1162
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,110
probably one of the shorter
ones.

1163
01:07:47,250 --> 01:07:50,010
I think I have something here.
Okay. Yeah, I got something we

1164
01:07:50,010 --> 01:08:07,440
can try out we will follow them
to the gates of hell. ISIS Oh,

1165
01:08:07,470 --> 01:08:14,100
wait, this is another techno
version. What is this? Nice

1166
01:08:16,650 --> 01:08:21,960
Damn. That's not That's not the
resist we much. Don't think so.

1167
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,230
But put it at the end of the
show. Dynamite home rocks out.

1168
01:08:26,460 --> 01:08:40,500
We'll have a whole techno show
at the end No, no, no, no, no,

1169
01:08:41,010 --> 01:08:41,970
no, no, no.

1170
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:51,840
This we must. We must and we
will much about your karma.

1171
01:08:54,029 --> 01:08:57,839
Startup out there he gets old.
Doesn't really. So that's

1172
01:08:57,839 --> 01:08:59,099
concludes our show.

1173
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,520
We're done. Packing it. No, I
haven't.

1174
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,490
We do have a Thursday just
before the day before Christmas

1175
01:09:05,490 --> 01:09:08,790
or Christmas Eve show. Yeah,
very unusual for anyone in the

1176
01:09:08,790 --> 01:09:12,840
media working any sort of media
any sort of media to do a show

1177
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,110
on Christmas Eve This is not pre
recorded. No. And ours will be

1178
01:09:16,110 --> 01:09:19,290
live and it'll be on Thursday.
And we were it would be nice to

1179
01:09:19,290 --> 01:09:21,690
have more help than we got
today. We have very few donors.

1180
01:09:21,690 --> 01:09:25,620
I think the total number is like
let me take a look for the ones

1181
01:09:25,620 --> 01:09:26,640
over $50

1182
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,440
I mean, meanwhile while you're
looking

1183
01:09:28,440 --> 01:09:33,390
at like I get that it's 21
people Wow, did you know the

1184
01:09:33,390 --> 01:09:36,990
15,000 people a day Merry
Christmas the 21 people

1185
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,060
promotional moment the no agenda
no agenda jingles app has been

1186
01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:45,870
updated with 28 new jingles
Okay, well, that's good. Go

1187
01:09:45,870 --> 01:09:48,120
check that out. Update I guess
is what you want to do if you

1188
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,940
already had his it's a pretty
good little app. I like it

1189
01:09:50,940 --> 01:09:53,430
because you can create your own
sequence of jeans

1190
01:09:53,550 --> 01:09:54,750
iPhone only.

1191
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:59,910
I think it is. I think it's iOS
only. But it's nice because you

1192
01:09:59,910 --> 01:10:04,380
can Create your own sequence of
jingles and in a playlist. It's

1193
01:10:04,380 --> 01:10:08,820
cool. I think this is also the
one that you can do a debate

1194
01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:13,320
for a doctor's office by the
way. What do you mean? Are you

1195
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:14,250
in the waiting room?

1196
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:27,660
Yeah. And then all of a sudden,
you just start playing Yeah. Or

1197
01:10:27,930 --> 01:10:37,350
like Mr. Curry is next Mr. Curry
is next. Go vaccines

1198
01:10:38,430 --> 01:10:43,230
like apparently your doctor's
offices in North Korea? Yes,

1199
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:47,280
yes, yes. I don't know the
inside of a doctor's office man

1200
01:10:48,150 --> 01:10:51,540
or hospital he's never been to a
doctor's office I've been to yes

1201
01:10:51,540 --> 01:10:53,040
of course I've been to a
doctor's office

1202
01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:55,470
let me as possible

1203
01:10:56,970 --> 01:11:00,330
we thank our executive producer
and our Associate Executive

1204
01:11:00,330 --> 01:11:03,870
Producers profusely today
certainly on today where man

1205
01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:08,370
nice to have a little evening
out these are these credits are

1206
01:11:08,370 --> 01:11:12,060
real. I have to repeat that
every single time because people

1207
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:14,310
keep using them and are
astounded by the results they

1208
01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:17,370
get particularly if you put them
on your LinkedIn Anthony ever

1209
01:11:17,370 --> 01:11:20,730
question will be very very happy
to vouch for your executive or

1210
01:11:20,730 --> 01:11:24,030
CO executive producer status now
the show on Thursday that is

1211
01:11:24,030 --> 01:11:29,340
Christmas Eve please remember us
for this Christmas for.org/and A

1212
01:11:29,340 --> 01:11:31,680
and while you're hanging out
with your entire family remember

1213
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,540
to go out there and hit them in
the mouth

1214
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:50,490
our formula is this we go out
for people in the mouth yes,

1215
01:11:50,490 --> 01:11:52,410
that isn't you may return to
your harpsichord

1216
01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:55,110
bom bom

1217
01:11:57,930 --> 01:12:00,660
showing all kinds of new really
old ones.

1218
01:12:00,810 --> 01:12:05,340
Just moving it around a little
bit I there was I think I've

1219
01:12:05,340 --> 01:12:08,610
mentioned many times it is so
incredibly easy to do a little

1220
01:12:08,610 --> 01:12:11,850
bit of promotion for the show.
On C span when they have the

1221
01:12:11,850 --> 01:12:14,940
Washington journal where you
they have guests and they know

1222
01:12:14,940 --> 01:12:17,910
you you can call in you can call
in on the Democrat line

1223
01:12:17,910 --> 01:12:21,300
Republican line or the
independent line. And it's a

1224
01:12:21,300 --> 01:12:24,420
great way to just throw in you
know best podcasts the universe,

1225
01:12:24,420 --> 01:12:26,940
no agenda show.com There's a
million different things you can

1226
01:12:26,940 --> 01:12:33,450
do a million. And I forget which
there was a congressman on the

1227
01:12:33,450 --> 01:12:36,810
show and he was taking calls and
this half

1228
01:12:36,810 --> 01:12:39,720
Len called him from Salt Lake
City, Utah, Glenn, good morning.

1229
01:12:42,450 --> 01:12:47,610
My question is, since we're
spending all this money, where

1230
01:12:47,610 --> 01:12:52,650
are we getting the money from?
And the second question is, if I

1231
01:12:52,650 --> 01:12:53,790
can shoot in your mouth,

1232
01:12:54,210 --> 01:12:57,450
apologise for that, Congressman.
I don't take that kind of

1233
01:12:57,450 --> 01:13:00,990
language here on the Washington
journal. We'll move on Yeah,

1234
01:13:00,990 --> 01:13:01,590
move on.

1235
01:13:06,900 --> 01:13:09,960
Get some asshole go do that. But
no, no, come on, say you know,

1236
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,460
no agenda show talked about
this.

1237
01:13:12,750 --> 01:13:19,320
I can think that's my point.
It'd be I mean that's a good

1238
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:19,950
one, though.

1239
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,130
Because what are you gonna say
based on your definition of

1240
01:13:23,130 --> 01:13:26,790
that's a good What are you gonna
say juveniles sensitive?

1241
01:13:27,690 --> 01:13:31,170
Yeah, that made my day. But I've
watched a lot of C span when

1242
01:13:31,170 --> 01:13:32,220
something like that comes along

1243
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:33,390
is a change of pace.

1244
01:13:33,420 --> 01:13:34,350
I covered that.

1245
01:13:34,830 --> 01:13:37,950
They come up. every once awhile,
they if that happens too often

1246
01:13:37,950 --> 01:13:41,250
because there's moments where
they I remember a few years back

1247
01:13:41,250 --> 01:13:47,460
they had moon landing, guys, or
was he the Moon Man? No Is it

1248
01:13:47,460 --> 01:13:51,180
was truthers, and there's a slew
of them calling in because

1249
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,340
apparently they're so well
organised that they can get

1250
01:13:53,340 --> 01:13:56,250
their boys to call in. Yeah,
unlike us who can't get anybody

1251
01:13:56,250 --> 01:13:58,860
to call in. Right. But they had
them all calling in. And so they

1252
01:13:58,860 --> 01:14:02,340
put a delay loop on it, which
was and they took it off, I

1253
01:14:02,340 --> 01:14:05,610
guess. Yeah. Yeah. Like it back

1254
01:14:05,610 --> 01:14:09,000
on. That's expensive. The
digital delay stuff. And it

1255
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,630
probably, oh, it's a bit it's an
expensive piece of kit. And you

1256
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:15,540
have to have a person. So the
way C span works, it'd be

1257
01:14:15,540 --> 01:14:18,870
there's a director, a technical
director, there may be a QA

1258
01:14:18,870 --> 01:14:22,200
maybe the Chiron is separate and
audio separate. But they don't

1259
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:29,130
have a big a big crews necessary
to really vet the calls

1260
01:14:29,130 --> 01:14:33,120
perfectly. Number one and you
have to dump out dumping out is

1261
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:37,080
a skill. It's it's you know,
it's a skill if you want if you

1262
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:41,250
do a right. There may even be a
me a guild or something. I'm

1263
01:14:41,250 --> 01:14:45,240
sure there's some kind of union

1264
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:50,550
for that and pay union. Yeah,
yeah. Maybe I'm pretty I have

1265
01:14:51,690 --> 01:14:54,330
I'll have to look into it again.
But I always know that MTV were

1266
01:14:54,330 --> 01:14:56,850
They were always pissed off and
we you know, they just had to

1267
01:14:56,850 --> 01:15:00,240
start to do that. Eventually.
The seven it's about again Nine

1268
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,210
seconds I think they had and
it's a complicated job. What are

1269
01:15:03,210 --> 01:15:04,920
you going to what are you going
to pull out? What are you going

1270
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,330
to where you're going to hit the
button?

1271
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,060
We have who you gotta really be
paying attention to. Yeah, but

1272
01:15:09,060 --> 01:15:12,030
you got a seconds to recover.
Yeah.

1273
01:15:12,990 --> 01:15:16,350
Average it's anyway doesn't
matter. I'm glad they don't have

1274
01:15:16,350 --> 01:15:20,790
it because it makes it much more
entertaining. Much more.

1275
01:15:21,150 --> 01:15:24,330
Yes, depending on your
definition of entertainment.

1276
01:15:24,900 --> 01:15:25,290
Yeah.

1277
01:15:25,799 --> 01:15:30,329
Okay, here's some entertainment
for y'all. I don't know I never

1278
01:15:30,329 --> 01:15:32,369
watch this programme, but I
watched it because the President

1279
01:15:32,369 --> 01:15:37,799
was on Bear Grylls. Bear Grylls
grill. grill this Bear Grylls is

1280
01:15:37,799 --> 01:15:40,079
their grills is the nature guy.

1281
01:15:41,190 --> 01:15:42,870
No, I don't even know what
you're talking about. I'm

1282
01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:46,290
completely real. No, no, I've
never heard of bear berry are

1283
01:15:46,350 --> 01:15:49,590
why LLS? I think Bear Grylls

1284
01:15:50,670 --> 01:15:53,250
Yeah, he does. There was this?
Well, he

1285
01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:54,990
he's an adventurer, and

1286
01:15:55,710 --> 01:15:58,770
all that this is this was
promoted on the History Channel.

1287
01:15:58,770 --> 01:16:02,700
Yes. I think it was that. Yeah.
Yeah. This bill Obama took a

1288
01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:04,650
week off. And he's Yes. Lay
shirt.

1289
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,080
Yes. Yes.

1290
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,740
Well, this is great for the
American economy for our

1291
01:16:10,740 --> 01:16:14,670
president to be, you know, if
He's based in Hawaii now. So

1292
01:16:15,570 --> 01:16:18,720
he's on vacation while the world
is melting down. But yeah, it's

1293
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:23,010
vacation stuff. Yeah. So the
President is out there were were

1294
01:16:23,010 --> 01:16:28,260
they they were out. I'll have to
look up where they were. But

1295
01:16:28,260 --> 01:16:29,850
listen to a little clip here. So
this

1296
01:16:29,850 --> 01:16:34,110
whole valley would have been
filled with a glass. I read

1297
01:16:34,110 --> 01:16:38,370
somewhere that what you've done
with your climate change plan is

1298
01:16:38,370 --> 01:16:42,300
the most significant thing any
single human being has ever done

1299
01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:43,200
to protect the planet.

1300
01:16:44,220 --> 01:16:50,580
Wow. Guys, like Trump would be
how to hire this guy. Worse than

1301
01:16:50,580 --> 01:16:52,590
anything I've ever heard. This

1302
01:16:52,830 --> 01:16:56,880
was really, really good. I like
that. But you have done more

1303
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,390
than any single human being ever
in the universe of the world of

1304
01:17:00,390 --> 01:17:03,330
the universe of ever anything to
save the planet, protect all the

1305
01:17:03,330 --> 01:17:04,560
people hell, hell

1306
01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:08,640
is the most significant thing
any single human being has ever

1307
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,160
done to protect the planet?
Well, you know, and that's

1308
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,330
amazing. Because there are so
many sceptics out there No, yes.

1309
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,570
You know, we you we always
convert or did you take How did

1310
01:17:18,570 --> 01:17:18,840
you?

1311
01:17:19,050 --> 01:17:21,990
He was in observe they were in
Alaska. So I think this all was

1312
01:17:22,620 --> 01:17:26,640
recorded during the President's
Alaska trip. The only thing he

1313
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,910
didn't do he didn't drink his
own pee during this incredible

1314
01:17:31,470 --> 01:17:36,990
incredible trial. No, I am. I'm
a big believer in science. Yeah.

1315
01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:40,560
Big believers is no sciences.

1316
01:17:43,050 --> 01:17:46,710
When I started looking at the
science, it was indisputable.

1317
01:17:47,190 --> 01:17:48,270
This must be one when

1318
01:17:48,270 --> 01:17:51,150
he started looking at the
science you know, as a Nobel

1319
01:17:51,150 --> 01:17:54,780
Prize winner. In dispute, I
looked at the science and said,

1320
01:17:54,930 --> 01:17:57,210
By God it is indisputable as

1321
01:17:57,570 --> 01:17:59,280
it was indisputable,
indisputable, this

1322
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,650
must be one of the things that
you'll girls, for example, are

1323
01:18:01,650 --> 01:18:05,490
most proud of that you're really
making a mark on saving their

1324
01:18:05,490 --> 01:18:06,480
future planet.

1325
01:18:06,540 --> 01:18:08,850
Well, they made me proud of me
they don't necessarily admit it

1326
01:18:08,850 --> 01:18:12,900
right now Oh, hell Oh, hell.

1327
01:18:13,860 --> 01:18:16,440
Any of course you had the
President had a warning obvious

1328
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:16,800
it's called

1329
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,650
a special moment when we come
out of the forest. Come over

1330
01:18:19,650 --> 01:18:23,940
this right and fam right in
front of us, is a huge giant

1331
01:18:23,970 --> 01:18:27,480
white face of the snout and the
end of the glass here. And we

1332
01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:30,270
just kind of had a moment of
taking it in and like I have

1333
01:18:30,270 --> 01:18:34,560
a beef here. Why did the Brits
call the glass here? And not a

1334
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:35,280
glacier?

1335
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:37,530
Because it's like last year

1336
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:43,110
we just kind of had a moment in
him realising this is why he's

1337
01:18:43,110 --> 01:18:46,800
fought so hard for all he's
doing to try and protect our

1338
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:47,490
planet again,

1339
01:18:47,490 --> 01:18:48,360
Australian

1340
01:18:48,540 --> 01:18:51,090
I believe so. Yeah. Yeah, I
believe so.

1341
01:18:51,480 --> 01:18:54,330
For all he's doing to try and
protect our planet.

1342
01:18:54,660 --> 01:18:57,930
Your most problems in the world,
as tragic as they may be, are

1343
01:18:57,930 --> 01:19:02,640
fixable. You can reverse trends.
This is one of those trends,

1344
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:07,620
where if it starts accelerating
too fast, then we we can be too

1345
01:19:07,620 --> 01:19:12,600
late. Know. The sciences.

1346
01:19:17,340 --> 01:19:21,990
This must have connected nicely
to a little speech that he

1347
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:24,930
included this little. This
little ditty was included in the

1348
01:19:24,930 --> 01:19:28,800
speech, which I suppose is
connected to this idiotic show

1349
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,250
where he's wandered. By the way,
I glad they were all Pro. I just

1350
01:19:32,250 --> 01:19:36,570
say pro glacier or anti glacier.
Glaciers are not healthy.

1351
01:19:36,630 --> 01:19:38,670
They're not something you want
coming down your neighbourhood.

1352
01:19:38,670 --> 01:19:41,580
You don't want to come down the
block. And here's Republicans

1353
01:19:41,580 --> 01:19:45,660
are outliers. Okay. President

1354
01:19:45,660 --> 01:19:49,140
brushed aside Republican
opposition to the deal right

1355
01:19:49,140 --> 01:19:49,620
now.

1356
01:19:49,740 --> 01:19:55,080
The American Republican Party is
the only major party that I can

1357
01:19:55,080 --> 01:20:01,410
think of in the advanced world
that you effectively denies

1358
01:20:01,410 --> 01:20:06,330
climate change. I mean, it's an
outlier. So my sense is is this

1359
01:20:06,330 --> 01:20:09,780
is something that may be an
advantage in terms of short term

1360
01:20:09,780 --> 01:20:13,080
politics and Republican primary,
it's not something that is going

1361
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:13,590
to be a winner.

1362
01:20:14,730 --> 01:20:16,350
Not going to be a winner now
gonna

1363
01:20:16,350 --> 01:20:18,600
be a winner. And they're just
doing it because it would that

1364
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:22,950
implication very well, well
done. Very well spoken. What he

1365
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:26,130
implied is that the Republicans
are liars.

1366
01:20:27,089 --> 01:20:30,239
Because they just pandering to
the base with their rhetoric.

1367
01:20:30,419 --> 01:20:33,359
Yeah, they're just catering to
the base with the bowl crap for

1368
01:20:33,359 --> 01:20:36,719
the dummies who are Republicans
and very propagandistic

1369
01:20:36,719 --> 01:20:39,959
commentary, I was repulsed by
it, to be honest about it. You

1370
01:20:39,959 --> 01:20:40,139
know,

1371
01:20:40,139 --> 01:20:42,479
I'm always listening very
carefully to the words the

1372
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,209
president uses, because I
believe that, you know, he, he's

1373
01:20:45,209 --> 01:20:49,259
very careful. He's always gonna
be able to come back years later

1374
01:20:49,259 --> 01:20:52,049
and say that this is exactly
what I said. You can see if you

1375
01:20:52,049 --> 01:20:55,529
listen to my words carefully, I
was saying exactly this, whereas

1376
01:20:56,579 --> 01:20:59,759
he's good at that. I don't think
we were doing I was living in

1377
01:20:59,759 --> 01:21:01,769
London. So we probably didn't
have the opportunity to record

1378
01:21:01,769 --> 01:21:06,149
so many clips in 2008. When
Obama was running for the first

1379
01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:08,279
time someone sent me this clip,
which I'd forgotten about

1380
01:21:08,309 --> 01:21:12,269
terrorism and nuclear weapons,
climate change and poverty,

1381
01:21:12,839 --> 01:21:18,869
genocide, and disease. All of
the candidates in this race,

1382
01:21:19,319 --> 01:21:20,579
share these goals.

1383
01:21:20,790 --> 01:21:28,230
Yep. And you know, what? He
realises his mistake, and he

1384
01:21:28,230 --> 01:21:30,150
smiles but doesn't correct it.

1385
01:21:32,820 --> 01:21:37,260
All of the candidates in this
race, have good ideas. Yeah.

1386
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:39,090
glosses right over it.

1387
01:21:40,710 --> 01:21:43,500
I think you've achieved your
goal. We got terrorism, we got

1388
01:21:44,190 --> 01:21:49,470
climate change. To nuclear
weapons. Yeah,

1389
01:21:49,470 --> 01:21:51,930
you got to play that clip again,
from the beginning. Now that

1390
01:21:51,930 --> 01:21:54,450
everyone can understand what
what it is you're getting at

1391
01:21:54,510 --> 01:21:58,590
terrorism and nuclear weapons,
climate change and poverty,

1392
01:21:59,130 --> 01:22:05,190
genocide, and disease. All of
the candidates in this race

1393
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:06,870
share these goals.

1394
01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:16,080
Yeah, so GM budget play this is
shaping human clothing or

1395
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,550
whatever it is pigs.

1396
01:22:18,420 --> 01:22:21,330
Does a couple as a couple. I
wanted to only play that one

1397
01:22:21,330 --> 01:22:26,460
again. And we can do we could do
the medley. medley Okay. All

1398
01:22:26,460 --> 01:22:26,820
right.

1399
01:22:26,820 --> 01:22:30,840
Terrorism and nuclear weapons,
climate change and poverty,

1400
01:22:31,410 --> 01:22:38,520
genocide, and disease. All of
the candidates share these

1401
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:39,990
goals. Now. I screwed

1402
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:43,110
up. Okay, let's go to another
time. Do you use it at the end

1403
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:47,550
of the show? Okay. And then you
get to the melody as a good one.

1404
01:22:48,930 --> 01:22:49,380
Yeah.

1405
01:22:51,930 --> 01:22:57,330
Show I'll put it as a medley.
Okay, got it. That's the

1406
01:22:57,330 --> 01:23:02,970
President's 2008 goals. Good
work. Yeah. He's good man. right

1407
01:23:02,970 --> 01:23:04,980
in line with what needs to be
happening. Hey,

1408
01:23:05,010 --> 01:23:08,730
so some some one of our
producers sent us a I didn't

1409
01:23:08,730 --> 01:23:11,760
think much of it. Listen to this
clip when I was starting to take

1410
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:16,710
clips that Trump people have a
visceral dislike of Trump

1411
01:23:16,710 --> 01:23:19,920
because he's he's reminiscent of
a character that was in Green

1412
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,750
Acres. Which one? The shyster,
there's a shyster and Green

1413
01:23:24,750 --> 01:23:28,770
Acres that are always coming
around and Haney and Haney would

1414
01:23:29,550 --> 01:23:33,810
always sell something stupid and
I in so somebody on YouTube does

1415
01:23:33,810 --> 01:23:36,630
all over YouTube. By the way,
somebody on YouTube showed

1416
01:23:38,130 --> 01:23:43,950
Cruz's Ted Cruz Ted Cruz giving
a speech and with Haney his

1417
01:23:43,950 --> 01:23:46,860
voice over it it didn't work
that well that didn't see them

1418
01:23:46,860 --> 01:23:49,350
didn't sound that much like
Cruz. But then when I was

1419
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:53,430
editing the clips and I ran into
the clip of that Haney voice as

1420
01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:56,820
the you know, it sounds enough
like crews to make a connection

1421
01:23:56,820 --> 01:24:01,320
you can put soon tell me what
you think. Looking for

1422
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:06,720
this just dropped by I wondered
if you made any decision about

1423
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:11,130
the wallpaper. Say your lucky
day. I got some furniture that

1424
01:24:11,130 --> 01:24:12,810
was just made for this play.

1425
01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:15,240
He's a little too Hickey.

1426
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,720
I think if you knock the Hickey
part out, it would sound pretty

1427
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:22,830
much like him. Yeah. And I bet I
was just just passing through

1428
01:24:22,860 --> 01:24:28,170
just an idea like thought, Okay.
I don't think that's why people

1429
01:24:28,170 --> 01:24:34,440
dig dislike to cruise though. I
think Cruz just today I think is

1430
01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:35,490
his presentation.

1431
01:24:36,090 --> 01:24:38,760
Yeah, you know, he's just, he's
just creepy looking. And if you

1432
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:39,750
want to, if you wanted

1433
01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:44,580
to really take it to some level
that's deep. I would say he

1434
01:24:44,580 --> 01:24:48,780
reminds me of Joe McCarthy. He
kind of looks like him. He's

1435
01:24:49,170 --> 01:24:53,580
kind of talks like him. And it's
an old reference. And you know,

1436
01:24:53,580 --> 01:24:55,170
nobody remembers Joe McCarthy

1437
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,930
how let's let's look at this
from a media deconstruction

1438
01:24:57,930 --> 01:25:01,620
standpoint. How can we use this
To make Ted Cruz even look

1439
01:25:01,620 --> 01:25:05,310
stupid, I think I think Green
Acres is too old to do anything

1440
01:25:05,310 --> 01:25:05,490
with

1441
01:25:05,490 --> 01:25:08,640
it. Yes, I think it's a callback
that's dated. Yeah.

1442
01:25:09,300 --> 01:25:11,610
I don't think that's a good way
to go. No, I

1443
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,900
Well, we'll, we'll work it out.
We'll do we'll do a freebie for

1444
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:21,120
the competition. Okay. If curry
Devaraj curry DEVAR consulting

1445
01:25:21,150 --> 01:25:27,360
company, greedy a consulting
group group, and we will find

1446
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,520
some way to make crews worse.

1447
01:25:31,230 --> 01:25:34,500
I'm sure we can do a great job.
Well, there's some other people

1448
01:25:34,500 --> 01:25:35,130
in trouble.

1449
01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:38,550
Start by while you do. I'm going
to have a beer. Okay.

1450
01:25:39,269 --> 01:25:48,929
Nice Schlitz malt liquor
obviously. Hey man, first

1451
01:25:48,930 --> 01:25:51,660
of all, IMF chief Christine
Lagarde says she will be

1452
01:25:51,660 --> 01:25:54,900
appealing a decision by a French
court that she stands tall for

1453
01:25:54,900 --> 01:25:58,110
her role in the payment of 400
million euros to a French

1454
01:25:58,110 --> 01:26:01,170
businessman for case dates back
to more than 20 years and will

1455
01:26:01,170 --> 01:26:04,710
be heard a Peruvian court for
decision comes as a surprise to

1456
01:26:04,710 --> 01:26:07,560
her legal team. As France's top
prosecutor had previously

1457
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,770
recommended that the case
against IMF chief be dropped.

1458
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,710
The prosecutor said there was no
case against the law God but the

1459
01:26:13,710 --> 01:26:17,580
judge has disregarded this. This
decision was taken disregard of

1460
01:26:17,580 --> 01:26:20,910
the facts of the documents of
the trial record and of the

1461
01:26:20,910 --> 01:26:23,550
recommendations of the
prosecution authority. It is

1462
01:26:23,550 --> 01:26:27,030
therefore incomprehensible. The
ruling concerns Bernard Tapie

1463
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:29,700
who was compensated by the
French government after selling

1464
01:26:29,700 --> 01:26:32,790
his stake in sports company
added death to Credit Lyonnais

1465
01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:37,110
in 1993. His case was referred
to an arbitration panel by a God

1466
01:26:37,110 --> 01:26:39,750
who was the French finance
minister at the time.

1467
01:26:39,900 --> 01:26:44,280
Now they're taking her out. Did
you get this from the FOP news?

1468
01:26:44,940 --> 01:26:48,990
That's a EURO NEWS? Wow. Yes,
sometimes they have really

1469
01:26:48,990 --> 01:26:56,100
crappy production. K fop, K fop.
And sappy news, I think why do

1470
01:26:56,100 --> 01:26:59,610
you think you think you may be
on to something? Yeah, it's

1471
01:26:59,610 --> 01:27:01,800
time to take her out. They've
been trying this has been going

1472
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,580
on for a long time. And now
finally, the French are the ones

1473
01:27:05,580 --> 01:27:08,760
that are going to take her out.
Yeah.

1474
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:11,430
Wonder what she did wrong?

1475
01:27:11,490 --> 01:27:13,440
Oh, you didn't listen to the
report?

1476
01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:19,200
Well, I was stupid. This guy's
voice I was she the

1477
01:27:19,410 --> 01:27:22,740
way I No, no, no, no. I know
what she did wrong. According to

1478
01:27:22,740 --> 01:27:25,380
the report. She's involved in
some scandal. Well, the

1479
01:27:25,380 --> 01:27:29,160
scandal is is is not small. No,
no.

1480
01:27:29,670 --> 01:27:33,750
That's not what I'm saying. I'm
asking what she did wrong. Oh,

1481
01:27:33,780 --> 01:27:35,640
Perez, IMF. Oh,

1482
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:40,890
of course. I don't I think I
think that she she announced the

1483
01:27:40,890 --> 01:27:45,000
revenue be was going to be in
the SDR basket before any of the

1484
01:27:45,390 --> 01:27:48,990
the reforms were ratified by the
US he's pressuring that's what

1485
01:27:48,990 --> 01:27:53,250
she's doing. She's pressuring
the US. And this would be my

1486
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:54,540
deconstruction. Okay,

1487
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,750
she's I'm all in on the idea
that when she because when she

1488
01:27:57,750 --> 01:28:01,890
did the rim, the call it the
Chinese one, because I can

1489
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,100
pronounce it. When she did that.
I thought it was a little

1490
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:05,880
peculiar.

1491
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:08,550
And I think she's just
pressuring. She's been doing

1492
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:11,970
this and she extended the date
until actually this month was

1493
01:28:11,970 --> 01:28:18,060
when the Rata for the was a
2000. It's a 2005 or 2010. It's

1494
01:28:18,060 --> 01:28:21,780
like there's been a while the
reforms which would allow the us

1495
01:28:21,780 --> 01:28:26,010
to maintain our veto, but would
put China into the basket into

1496
01:28:26,010 --> 01:28:30,300
the SDR basket would put them in
number two on the list. And now

1497
01:28:30,330 --> 01:28:32,820
we're not going to ratify that
it's obvious that been going on

1498
01:28:32,820 --> 01:28:34,830
for years and I think she just
pressured who wasn't

1499
01:28:34,830 --> 01:28:37,770
going to be two is gonna be
three euros to

1500
01:28:40,020 --> 01:28:44,640
Okay. Somebody then but still
putting them in at all. I think

1501
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:45,630
she she pressure. I

1502
01:28:45,630 --> 01:28:47,130
thought that was peculiar, and I

1503
01:28:47,130 --> 01:28:50,910
don't think that she will be. I
think she'll recover. She's

1504
01:28:50,910 --> 01:28:54,810
smart. And she's a she's a
Slimer slime ball slime dog.

1505
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,470
She's a weasel. Sure weasel her
way out. Somehow she'll do

1506
01:28:58,470 --> 01:29:01,140
something because she loves the
power too much. Look at that

1507
01:29:01,140 --> 01:29:04,530
face. She's in Santro pay all
the time. Tanning.

1508
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:06,720
She does like a baseball glove.

1509
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,000
Yeah, that's one way of putting
it.

1510
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:16,260
Let me write that down.

1511
01:29:18,300 --> 01:29:22,770
After next time I see you do you
want to borax head? Leaf look

1512
01:29:22,770 --> 01:29:25,650
like a like a baseball glove?
What's going on with you, lady?

1513
01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:30,300
We had this big omnibus

1514
01:29:30,390 --> 01:29:35,760
bill. Yes. The one they slipped
in Sisa. Yes, they did. And

1515
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:41,850
nobody seems to. Oh, well.
Where's the outrage? With the

1516
01:29:41,850 --> 01:29:42,780
recalls?

1517
01:29:42,810 --> 01:29:47,580
No one. No one cares if you know
why here they cared a year ago.

1518
01:29:47,610 --> 01:29:50,610
Look at the timing of it. Who
are the people that would be

1519
01:29:50,610 --> 01:29:54,360
against this? Against the
Cybersecurity Information

1520
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:58,110
Sharing Act, which has now just
become legislation slipped into

1521
01:29:58,110 --> 01:30:01,440
the omnibus bill who wouldn't be
against that. What is the

1522
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:04,980
profile of this person? And what
were they? And what were they

1523
01:30:04,980 --> 01:30:07,470
doing Friday and Saturday?

1524
01:30:09,510 --> 01:30:10,830
What were they doing on
Saturday?

1525
01:30:10,890 --> 01:30:14,280
They were jacking off to Star
Wars man. No wonder no one paid

1526
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,130
attention to it. These guys are
genius. Timing is everything,

1527
01:30:17,220 --> 01:30:17,640
all the

1528
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:18,420
Star Wars.

1529
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:25,260
Now what I did find, and this
was, you know, it was leaked. So

1530
01:30:25,260 --> 01:30:30,420
I'm thinking that it must be an
administration link. That leak

1531
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:36,360
the the administration had a
number of priorities and

1532
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:40,980
preferences for the for system,
which I guess means are going to

1533
01:30:40,980 --> 01:30:44,430
start adding this or will have
to put stuff in afterwards, but

1534
01:30:44,430 --> 01:30:47,460
the framework is already there.
And I'd like to read a few of

1535
01:30:47,460 --> 01:30:50,400
them if you don't mind that this
comes from the White House and

1536
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:55,680
it is a leaked document.
liability protections is the big

1537
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,590
one that your eye are interested
in. John, the administration

1538
01:30:58,590 --> 01:31:02,430
supports providing narrowly
targeted liability protections

1539
01:31:02,820 --> 01:31:06,300
to incentivize broader
cybersecurity threat information

1540
01:31:06,300 --> 01:31:11,370
sharing. That's interesting,
narrowly targeted liability

1541
01:31:11,370 --> 01:31:14,670
protections to incentivize
broader cybersecurity threat

1542
01:31:14,670 --> 01:31:18,030
information sharing. Now, that
hurts my brain. Yeah, even

1543
01:31:18,030 --> 01:31:22,620
though it's it's kind of it's
self contradictory. Yeah. Here's

1544
01:31:22,620 --> 01:31:28,230
the logic about encouraging a
business to like see,

1545
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:31,200
incentivizing. incentivize this.
Yeah.

1546
01:31:31,230 --> 01:31:33,990
Here's the funny thing about
incentivizing the way I see it.

1547
01:31:34,290 --> 01:31:38,280
This is an you released
liability issues. This is

1548
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,190
telling me I don't believe this,
what I'm gonna say, by the way,

1549
01:31:41,190 --> 01:31:44,130
but it's what it says or is this
what the government believes, I

1550
01:31:44,130 --> 01:31:46,920
think this way with a guy that
government, the administration,

1551
01:31:47,220 --> 01:31:50,520
the minister, any Valerie
Jarrett, Maryland, let's just

1552
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,550
say, Valerie, okay, the
president real pay, because they

1553
01:31:53,550 --> 01:31:58,290
know so little about business,
they actually think that the

1554
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,980
only thing preventing any
business Apple or any of them

1555
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:06,990
from just spilling everything on
their customers not giving a

1556
01:32:06,990 --> 01:32:09,960
crap and giving it all over to
the government lies because they

1557
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:11,310
might get sued.

1558
01:32:11,519 --> 01:32:15,329
You know, and I think they're
probably right.

1559
01:32:15,870 --> 01:32:19,440
I don't think they're right in
any way. Oh, no reason. There's

1560
01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:21,450
nothing. There's not a no,

1561
01:32:21,509 --> 01:32:24,239
you don't think Facebook is
chomping at the bit to share?

1562
01:32:24,749 --> 01:32:28,949
Facebook is chomping at the bit
to sell. Let me read the next

1563
01:32:28,949 --> 01:32:32,189
line. This man I'm gonna share.
Let me read the next line. This

1564
01:32:32,189 --> 01:32:35,429
may help because I understand
why they put this in here. So we

1565
01:32:35,429 --> 01:32:38,459
have this administration
supports providing narrowly

1566
01:32:38,459 --> 01:32:41,579
targeted liability protections
to incentivize broader cyber

1567
01:32:41,609 --> 01:32:45,119
security threat information,
sharing appropriate liability

1568
01:32:45,119 --> 01:32:50,369
protections, should incentivize
good cybersecurity practices and

1569
01:32:50,369 --> 01:32:55,649
should not grant immunity to a
private company for failing to

1570
01:32:55,649 --> 01:32:58,889
act on information it receives
about the security of its

1571
01:32:58,889 --> 01:33:02,969
networks. So what they're saying
here is you better be sharing

1572
01:33:02,969 --> 01:33:06,389
everything. Because if you fail
to share something about the

1573
01:33:06,389 --> 01:33:11,279
security of your network, then
you're in trouble. So

1574
01:33:11,279 --> 01:33:14,039
oversharing is encouraged by
this provision, the way I read

1575
01:33:14,039 --> 01:33:17,849
it. Such a provision would
remove incentives for companies

1576
01:33:17,849 --> 01:33:21,209
to protect their customers
personal information, and may

1577
01:33:21,209 --> 01:33:27,419
weaken cybersecurity writ large.
Whoa, did you drop your your

1578
01:33:27,419 --> 01:33:27,809
teeth?

1579
01:33:28,110 --> 01:33:29,160
I dropped my mic.

1580
01:33:30,630 --> 01:33:36,690
Yeah, it happens all the time.
There is a danger that providing

1581
01:33:36,690 --> 01:33:40,350
a good faith exception for a
failure to act on information

1582
01:33:40,350 --> 01:33:44,040
received could create a moral
hazard and discourage companies

1583
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,430
from responding appropriately to
cyber threat indicators they

1584
01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:52,890
receive. So I think it's
actually it's an interesting the

1585
01:33:52,890 --> 01:33:56,880
way they put this is we want to
give them an immunity but don't

1586
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,270
give them immunity for when they
screw up or maybe they pretend

1587
01:34:00,270 --> 01:34:03,120
to screw up because then they'll
be just liable as ever.

1588
01:34:06,750 --> 01:34:12,360
Oh, that's interesting. They're
saying yeah, there. Somebody in

1589
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,180
the meeting, Valerie said, Hey,
wait a minute. What if these

1590
01:34:15,180 --> 01:34:20,340
guys actually screw up? Yeah.
And they and then they want to

1591
01:34:20,340 --> 01:34:23,460
fall back on this provision
saying, you know, we're like,

1592
01:34:23,460 --> 01:34:26,070
Who do you? There's no
liability, right? We can't let

1593
01:34:26,070 --> 01:34:28,320
him get away with that because
these guys are Boneheads.

1594
01:34:28,350 --> 01:34:31,680
Let's move on the DHS but you
like this. I think it's quite

1595
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:36,810
fun actually to do this.
Alright, it's your cybersecurity

1596
01:34:36,810 --> 01:34:40,410
to John. The administration
supports authorising new

1597
01:34:40,410 --> 01:34:44,730
liability protected, sharing
relationships only through the

1598
01:34:44,730 --> 01:34:47,910
National Cybersecurity and
Communications Integration

1599
01:34:47,910 --> 01:34:51,960
centre, a civilian entity within
the Department of Homeland

1600
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:55,350
Security. Additionally, the
administration supports real

1601
01:34:55,350 --> 01:34:59,340
time sharing between the NCCIC
and relevant federal agencies

1602
01:34:59,340 --> 01:35:01,710
with appropriate privacy
protections and has

1603
01:35:01,710 --> 01:35:07,260
preliminarily deployed such a
capability at DHS. Focusing real

1604
01:35:07,260 --> 01:35:10,590
time sharing through one centre
DHS enhances situational

1605
01:35:10,590 --> 01:35:14,250
awareness facilitates robust
privacy controls, and helps

1606
01:35:14,250 --> 01:35:17,730
hackers to find a single source
of all information. I'm sorry, I

1607
01:35:17,730 --> 01:35:23,250
made that up myself. Then we go
to defensive measures. The use

1608
01:35:23,250 --> 01:35:26,370
of defensive measures without
appropriate safeguards raises

1609
01:35:26,370 --> 01:35:29,520
significant legal policy of
diplomatic concerns that can

1610
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:33,930
have a direct deleterious
impact. What does that mean

1611
01:35:33,930 --> 01:35:37,590
deleterious? Negative? Why don't
we just say negative,

1612
01:35:38,190 --> 01:35:40,950
hey, like this word better, so
you can't keep using the same

1613
01:35:40,950 --> 01:35:41,790
words over and over?

1614
01:35:41,820 --> 01:35:45,360
Okay. deleterious impact on
information systems that

1615
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,360
undermine cybersecurity.
Moreover, certain provisions may

1616
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,210
prevent the application of laws
such as state common law tort

1617
01:35:51,210 --> 01:35:56,010
remedies. So you can't just
legislation should not create a

1618
01:35:56,010 --> 01:35:59,220
backdoor exception by allowing
quote, defensive measures that

1619
01:35:59,220 --> 01:36:02,160
access other computers without
authorization. So companies

1620
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:07,290
can't go doing that on their own
is the way I read that. Privacy

1621
01:36:07,290 --> 01:36:11,880
scrub. Let me see that's not
necessarily interesting. The

1622
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:16,860
Cyber Threat Intelligence
integration centre. No, not in

1623
01:36:16,860 --> 01:36:19,770
Oh, the Einstein authorization.
Now we've looked at this

1624
01:36:19,770 --> 01:36:25,080
Einstein thing. And Einstein is
pretty much a it's a closed

1625
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:32,730
network that has email phishing,
filters and spam filters, and

1626
01:36:32,730 --> 01:36:39,300
DNS protection. And right, but I
think because it's called

1627
01:36:39,330 --> 01:36:42,930
Einstein, that they think this
is like the this is the cat's

1628
01:36:42,930 --> 01:36:46,170
meow or something. Einstein
authorization.

1629
01:36:46,230 --> 01:36:55,260
Hey, SkiDoo. Schedules me out.
Meow 23. SkiDoo cat's meow. Wow.

1630
01:36:56,010 --> 01:37:00,330
Well, that's that's probably
what they're talking about. Oh,

1631
01:37:00,330 --> 01:37:03,870
and yeah. The administration
supports provisions that will

1632
01:37:03,900 --> 01:37:07,290
improve the cybersecurity of
federal networks and systems

1633
01:37:07,740 --> 01:37:10,650
while protecting privacy and
confidentiality. So the

1634
01:37:10,650 --> 01:37:14,850
administration supports Einstein
authorization language, sunset,

1635
01:37:14,879 --> 01:37:18,029
so that you had all this is this
brand name in the document?

1636
01:37:18,029 --> 01:37:18,509
Yeah.

1637
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:24,120
No. Yeah. But here legislation
should preserve the roles of

1638
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,180
appropriate agencies to maintain
security for national security

1639
01:37:27,180 --> 01:37:30,420
system. The final bill should
include language that exempts

1640
01:37:30,420 --> 01:37:32,910
national security systems and
information systems of the

1641
01:37:32,910 --> 01:37:36,060
Department of Defence and the
intelligence community. Oh,

1642
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:41,280
okay. So they get to have their
own stuff,

1643
01:37:41,700 --> 01:37:45,750
I guess. Course, your own
databases. Yeah.

1644
01:37:47,310 --> 01:37:49,230
government or private sharing
language directing the

1645
01:37:49,230 --> 01:37:51,540
government to develop procedures
to enhance sharing efforts with

1646
01:37:51,540 --> 01:37:54,090
non federal entities should
track current law and practice.

1647
01:37:54,090 --> 01:37:56,070
Yeah, but if you want to be
shared, if you want, some

1648
01:37:56,070 --> 01:37:57,960
sharing from the government is
not going to happen.

1649
01:37:59,970 --> 01:38:02,850
notification requirement
regarding misuse of data

1650
01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:06,600
unnecessarily prohibit
unnecessary prohibitions on

1651
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:10,110
intelligence activity, language
about Title One, title two of HR

1652
01:38:10,110 --> 01:38:12,810
1560 Would improperly restrict
appropriate intelligence

1653
01:38:12,810 --> 01:38:15,870
activities that are necessary
cybersecurity activities. For

1654
01:38:15,870 --> 01:38:18,750
instance, a department CIO
attempting to identify the

1655
01:38:18,750 --> 01:38:22,080
origin or malware on the DEP
system, right might run afoul of

1656
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:25,530
the restrictions. The final bill
should not contain unnecessary

1657
01:38:25,530 --> 01:38:28,230
restrictions on surveillance
activities, or in the

1658
01:38:28,230 --> 01:38:30,870
alternative should properly
restrict unrelated surveillance

1659
01:38:30,870 --> 01:38:33,540
activity. Nothing in this title,
or the amendments made by this

1660
01:38:33,540 --> 01:38:35,760
title shall be construed to
create new authorization for an

1661
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,880
element of the intelligence
community. But I think it's

1662
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,390
saying now everything's in one
fine place. And if they need to

1663
01:38:42,390 --> 01:38:45,210
do some surveillance, then they
can probably dip into that I

1664
01:38:45,210 --> 01:38:52,410
think. And this is now a lot of
legalese stuff. International

1665
01:38:52,410 --> 01:38:55,350
reporting requirements. Now
that's about it. I think the

1666
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:59,340
sharing is really it's the main
part. And they're really opening

1667
01:38:59,340 --> 01:39:02,340
up and so Hillary's tight, you
know, tapping into that because

1668
01:39:02,340 --> 01:39:04,770
she knows what's going on. And
there's there's I think there's

1669
01:39:04,770 --> 01:39:08,070
a lot of conversations that are
being held a lot.

1670
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,860
Interesting, well is done deals
where I say

1671
01:39:13,860 --> 01:39:17,670
it's totally a dud, they're just
going to add a few things. In

1672
01:39:17,670 --> 01:39:19,230
the new session, I'm sure
they'll do some kind of

1673
01:39:19,230 --> 01:39:22,560
amendment or something. But the
I'm waiting for Jen briny to

1674
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:23,340
read that thing.

1675
01:39:24,900 --> 01:39:29,310
No, she will. Well, that's a big
one.

1676
01:39:29,969 --> 01:39:32,219
It's a big one. But I've I've
been looking at the relevant

1677
01:39:32,219 --> 01:39:34,469
sections, but it's going to take
me until after Christmas to

1678
01:39:34,469 --> 01:39:36,629
really get through it. I mean,
it's a lot of pages. This is a

1679
01:39:36,629 --> 01:39:37,109
big one.

1680
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:42,240
All right. Well, there was that
tech

1681
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:45,120
news. No, if you want I do have
some tech news if you if you

1682
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:45,750
wanted. Well, let's

1683
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:48,300
go to tech news for a minute.
Okay. It wasn't quite that but

1684
01:39:48,300 --> 01:39:50,610
that should have been in tech
news. Well, we

1685
01:39:50,610 --> 01:39:55,770
can. We can just pretend it was
in in tech news. I ready.

1686
01:39:59,220 --> 01:40:03,090
Vaughn HSMAI A phone the way I
see it the only good phones a

1687
01:40:03,090 --> 01:40:07,440
landline and the phone should be
made out of Bakelite. Everybody,

1688
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:07,680
Tom,

1689
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:09,690
once again for tech news, all
the tech Cornelissen this show

1690
01:40:09,690 --> 01:40:14,730
to find out what's really going
on at tech news. John C. Dvorak.

1691
01:40:16,470 --> 01:40:18,750
Tech News tech news. Oh,

1692
01:40:19,110 --> 01:40:19,860
I got nothing.

1693
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:25,410
I got some tech news. I figured,
yeah. Finally a little bit of

1694
01:40:25,410 --> 01:40:27,150
vindication over there on the
Bloomberg,

1695
01:40:27,180 --> 01:40:29,490
what exactly is the problem?
What are they found like that

1696
01:40:29,490 --> 01:40:31,980
these driverless cars are
involved in more accidents. And

1697
01:40:32,070 --> 01:40:35,310
now this is a news report, you
may have seen that Google cars

1698
01:40:35,460 --> 01:40:37,320
are involved in many, many
accidents. One

1699
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:38,790
is driven by by people.

1700
01:40:39,420 --> 01:40:42,630
That's right, Betty. And what's
happening is that driverless

1701
01:40:42,630 --> 01:40:47,160
cars follow the law, which the
rest of us human drivers don't

1702
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:51,480
always do. So they drive very
cautiously. People don't expect

1703
01:40:51,480 --> 01:40:53,100
that and they're driving into
the back of them.

1704
01:40:53,639 --> 01:40:56,489
Go on the New Jersey Turnpike,
and that will be an extreme

1705
01:40:56,819 --> 01:40:57,509
fault.

1706
01:40:58,170 --> 01:41:01,710
No, the back. Of course, it's
the cars fault. Of course,

1707
01:41:01,830 --> 01:41:03,480
that and they're driving into
the back of them.

1708
01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:06,990
Go on the New Jersey Turnpike.
And that will be an extreme.

1709
01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:09,960
Screw you with your jersey
jokes. Do

1710
01:41:10,050 --> 01:41:14,700
a study on that. Okay. So yeah.
Does that mean that researchers

1711
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:20,190
that they have to now think
about what pricing in or I guess

1712
01:41:20,190 --> 01:41:23,850
factoring in breaking the law in
these in these driverless cars?

1713
01:41:23,969 --> 01:41:27,359
You know, that's the debate and
all these labs, should they make

1714
01:41:27,359 --> 01:41:31,139
the cars behave more human,
which means breaking the law to

1715
01:41:31,139 --> 01:41:34,229
keep up with the rest of us
scofflaws on the highway? It's

1716
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:37,529
it's it's tough to date. Because
you know, once you let them

1717
01:41:37,529 --> 01:41:41,009
break the rules a little bit,
how far do you go? These crashes

1718
01:41:41,009 --> 01:41:44,039
are the fault of the human
drivers, not the robot cars, and

1719
01:41:44,039 --> 01:41:47,699
they tend to be slow speed and
no injury type crashes.

1720
01:41:47,730 --> 01:41:48,450
Okay, so then

1721
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:54,000
just stop complaining. Listen to
the car. Yeah, it's a robot.

1722
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,740
It's a dumb dumb idea.

1723
01:41:55,770 --> 01:41:58,650
This, this actually sounds like
a pretty big problem. Big

1724
01:41:58,650 --> 01:42:01,830
problem before you get mass
adoption. So if the researchers

1725
01:42:01,830 --> 01:42:05,820
are going to try to factor in,
you know, essentially breaking

1726
01:42:05,850 --> 01:42:08,400
the law, how far are we away
from that then Keith?

1727
01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:11,880
Well, you know, Google is
talking about splitting off its

1728
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:14,580
driverless car unit into a
standalone business, they want

1729
01:42:14,580 --> 01:42:18,450
to have ride for hire cars on
the road before too long. So

1730
01:42:18,510 --> 01:42:21,720
this needs to be figured out
California regulators this week,

1731
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,870
came up with some very strict
rules, driverless cars should

1732
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:27,360
behave and that there should
always be a human ready to take

1733
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,630
over the wheel. So I think
there's a lot still to be worked

1734
01:42:30,630 --> 01:42:31,710
out, Betty. But can

1735
01:42:31,710 --> 01:42:33,750
it ever be really figured out?
Keith?

1736
01:42:33,780 --> 01:42:36,720
Yeah. All right, who is this
idiot? Betty?

1737
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:39,180
She's on Bloomberg. But here's
the here's the answer to the

1738
01:42:39,180 --> 01:42:40,110
question. Oh, yeah. I

1739
01:42:40,110 --> 01:42:43,830
mean, we have some very smart
programmers. Smart programmer,

1740
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:47,430
made the cars behave a little
human, like it stopped signs

1741
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:50,190
that when there's a four way
stop, the robot car will creep

1742
01:42:50,190 --> 01:42:53,820
forward a little bit to let them
know, I'm going next. So there's

1743
01:42:53,820 --> 01:42:56,130
a little bit of that already
showing up. But there's much

1744
01:42:56,130 --> 01:42:57,180
more that needs to be done.

1745
01:42:57,930 --> 01:43:01,620
I have an idea. Here's, here's
a, here's an idea that President

1746
01:43:01,620 --> 01:43:05,010
curry would come up with, I'm
going to ban I'm going to ban

1747
01:43:05,010 --> 01:43:08,820
all of these cars. A Google can
do research and they will pay

1748
01:43:08,820 --> 01:43:12,870
for drivers to drive people
around. Then then they can do

1749
01:43:12,870 --> 01:43:15,600
whatever experiments they want.
But these people be driving them

1750
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,990
around. And we'll have people
working this is a stupid idea.

1751
01:43:19,020 --> 01:43:22,590
I'm not for it. People believe
somehow when they're jerking off

1752
01:43:22,590 --> 01:43:24,510
on their, on their lightsabers,

1753
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,150
that we're seeing a lot of
references to jerking off in

1754
01:43:27,150 --> 01:43:29,070
today's show. Well,

1755
01:43:29,070 --> 01:43:31,140
maybe I've been jerking off a
lot lately.

1756
01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:37,080
Is this something is this? Is
this a pro to you having you

1757
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:39,360
having personal difficulties
with your feet?

1758
01:43:39,390 --> 01:43:43,800
No, not at all. I have no
personal difficulties. If you

1759
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:44,100
want to.

1760
01:43:45,090 --> 01:43:50,310
You are very, you have a certain
way of presenting yourself and

1761
01:43:50,580 --> 01:43:53,880
and when I see an anomaly, yes,
it stands out.

1762
01:43:54,750 --> 01:43:57,600
I'm trying not to use F words.
I'm trying to use different

1763
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:01,230
things. But I think the the
visual of jerking off a

1764
01:44:01,230 --> 01:44:04,770
lightsaber is the correct
visual, because people truly

1765
01:44:04,770 --> 01:44:07,050
believe that this is going it's
not going to happen in your

1766
01:44:07,050 --> 01:44:08,340
lifetime. Now yours.

1767
01:44:09,150 --> 01:44:11,250
released it. They released it
out last week.

1768
01:44:11,670 --> 01:44:16,200
Okay, fine. Drone, Amazon drone
deliveries not going to happen.

1769
01:44:16,290 --> 01:44:19,920
I agree with that. And this self
driving car is not going to

1770
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:23,070
happen. Oh, it's absolutely
going to not in our lifetime. It

1771
01:44:23,070 --> 01:44:26,070
just won't know it will happen
in our life. Not Not gonna

1772
01:44:26,070 --> 01:44:33,360
happen. Yes. Okay, fine. It's
not going to happen. It's on a

1773
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:37,050
close track, maybe in Berkeley,
where you want to put them on

1774
01:44:37,050 --> 01:44:40,620
rails. Next, we need rails in
the road to make it work so

1775
01:44:40,620 --> 01:44:43,830
everyone can hook into the right
rails. Human beings are very

1776
01:44:43,830 --> 01:44:48,180
good robots, John. They're very,
very good at driving. This these

1777
01:44:48,180 --> 01:44:51,510
cars. There's no intelligence in
these things. Zero. This is not

1778
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:54,900
artificial intelligence. It
doesn't have it. It can't take

1779
01:44:54,900 --> 01:44:57,480
new information about a
situation and make a decision.

1780
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,930
It all has to be it's skip
logic. We're all The smart, the

1781
01:45:00,930 --> 01:45:05,400
smart guy, you want some some
dumb a whole 25 year old Google

1782
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,430
single white net Asian developer
because that's what they hire.

1783
01:45:08,580 --> 01:45:12,120
You want that guy to be
determining how he's with you.

1784
01:45:12,150 --> 01:45:16,020
I'm sick and tired of the Google
self driving car. It ticked me

1785
01:45:16,020 --> 01:45:19,410
off when the artists at the obod
Dinner said, Oh, this is going

1786
01:45:19,410 --> 01:45:23,160
to solve all traffic problems.
We have no other way to go. Oh,

1787
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,470
crap. Bull crap.

1788
01:45:25,500 --> 01:45:28,470
It's just a reaction to the
artists at the obod dinner.

1789
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,680
Not just that it's a reaction
out of control.

1790
01:45:32,730 --> 01:45:34,350
Really? Yeah.

1791
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:38,490
irrational. screed.

1792
01:45:38,519 --> 01:45:42,089
This is an I'm very worried
screen. Instead of rant. By the

1793
01:45:42,089 --> 01:45:46,529
way, this is a very rational
screed. There is no evidence

1794
01:45:46,649 --> 01:45:50,729
that this will work in any type
of traffic scenario in the

1795
01:45:50,759 --> 01:45:52,289
foreseeable future.

1796
01:45:52,440 --> 01:45:54,660
Yeah, it works fine.

1797
01:45:55,830 --> 01:45:57,840
No, it doesn't. There's no earth
to report,

1798
01:45:57,900 --> 01:46:00,840
they get bumped into these
people around them. Now here's

1799
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:04,200
what my fear is, I have a more
logical way of looking at it. I

1800
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:10,350
think that the problem would be
like the problem. I kind of know

1801
01:46:10,350 --> 01:46:13,110
a little bit about this. But I
don't know any specific

1802
01:46:13,110 --> 01:46:16,140
examples. But when you're inside
of driving around a Tesla that

1803
01:46:16,140 --> 01:46:20,280
you think is so cool. Yuri, I
don't think it's so cool. No,

1804
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:25,350
not you. I'm just referring to
the universal you. Driving

1805
01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:30,030
around Tesla, you think is so
cool. You're in a box of deadly

1806
01:46:30,030 --> 01:46:34,020
electricity, that one little
thing can happen. And you'll be

1807
01:46:34,020 --> 01:46:38,010
just fried. I mean, yeah, you
could burn to death in a car

1808
01:46:38,010 --> 01:46:40,980
that catches on fire. That's
true. But when you get hit with

1809
01:46:40,980 --> 01:46:43,740
that kind of voltage, if this is
free, you can't get out. You're

1810
01:46:43,740 --> 01:46:44,040
done.

1811
01:46:44,460 --> 01:46:47,100
I think I think I'm trying to
make me. I think I'm trying to

1812
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:48,570
make them a much larger point.

1813
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:52,320
No, no, I'm gonna continue. So
it's a little car, I'm afraid at

1814
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,420
somebody because they're bumping
into him a lot. Apparently,

1815
01:46:54,420 --> 01:46:57,120
according to that report,
somebody bumps into the thing.

1816
01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:00,000
It's screws up the network or
something, the car goes out of

1817
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:04,440
control, takes off like a rocket
and goes off a cliff. I mean,

1818
01:47:04,440 --> 01:47:05,190
that could happen. You

1819
01:47:05,190 --> 01:47:08,520
don't need all these crazy, you
just don't need all of these

1820
01:47:08,610 --> 01:47:14,070
examples. Every single scenario
that any driver will witness on

1821
01:47:14,070 --> 01:47:16,860
the road is going to be
different every single time. It

1822
01:47:16,860 --> 01:47:21,510
takes real intelligence to react
to certain scenarios. The belief

1823
01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:25,050
somehow that Google of all
people Google, who are the skip

1824
01:47:25,050 --> 01:47:29,310
logic geniuses to thought that
takes him 2000 servers, just to

1825
01:47:29,310 --> 01:47:32,220
determine what fucking ads
you're gonna get. Guy you how

1826
01:47:32,220 --> 01:47:35,250
many? Yeah, did how many? How
many servers is going to take to

1827
01:47:35,250 --> 01:47:37,740
determine what to do in a
certain scenario? Is it going to

1828
01:47:37,740 --> 01:47:40,560
talk to the cloud first? Is it
gonna have all this tech on

1829
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,560
board? Is it how is it going to
be updated? We'll know what to

1830
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,140
do. We'll be able to take new
information, road conditions,

1831
01:47:46,260 --> 01:47:51,000
everything intuition, no, people
believed way too much in what

1832
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,330
technology can do. It's a bad
idea. And I'm against it. And

1833
01:47:54,510 --> 01:47:56,670
just because I'm against it
doesn't give you the right to

1834
01:47:56,700 --> 01:47:58,230
say I'm off the rails.

1835
01:47:58,860 --> 01:48:02,220
No, you're off the rails not
about being against it. It's

1836
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:07,320
it's your presentation, which is
in the form of a screed now

1837
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:10,500
seems to be derived from an old
bought dinner. That's what I'm

1838
01:48:10,500 --> 01:48:12,690
talking about. Not about your
Yeah, you can be against it.

1839
01:48:12,690 --> 01:48:15,990
Your Ford is against it, I can
you go talk to any executive

1840
01:48:15,990 --> 01:48:17,610
over there, and they'll give you
a million.

1841
01:48:17,759 --> 01:48:21,239
My problem is that you're all in
with it. That's my problem. Ah,

1842
01:48:21,449 --> 01:48:23,489
ah, that's

1843
01:48:23,490 --> 01:48:28,350
why that's why you're ticked off
hopefully in all in why why why

1844
01:48:28,350 --> 01:48:33,150
will this work? I've it just,
why wouldn't it it's not.

1845
01:48:34,770 --> 01:48:36,990
The so far we have no evidence
is trying to work.

1846
01:48:37,110 --> 01:48:39,990
It's got tonnes of evidence, you
got over a million miles of

1847
01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:42,360
driving around these things
driving around in California and

1848
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:42,870
Nevada.

1849
01:48:43,170 --> 01:48:47,340
That's every round, they drive
35 miles an hour and they get

1850
01:48:47,340 --> 01:48:49,950
bumped into because they don't
they're not participating in the

1851
01:48:49,950 --> 01:48:53,580
traffic system. They're their
own entity is like having one.

1852
01:48:53,580 --> 01:48:57,330
That's why the system, I know
that you're not gonna go like

1853
01:48:57,330 --> 01:49:00,390
this either. That's why the
system's got to go. It has to be

1854
01:49:00,420 --> 01:49:03,150
all thank you for proving my
point. Thank you for proving my

1855
01:49:03,150 --> 01:49:07,740
point. The system will only work
if everybody is in self driving

1856
01:49:07,740 --> 01:49:12,060
cars that yes, and that will
only happen when we're dead. No,

1857
01:49:12,150 --> 01:49:12,690
ah

1858
01:49:14,700 --> 01:49:19,170
ah, it will happen sooner than
you want to believe. They put a

1859
01:49:19,170 --> 01:49:22,050
timeframe. First, they're going
to have the cars mixing and

1860
01:49:22,050 --> 01:49:24,300
matching with this and again,
have these bumper episodes I'm

1861
01:49:24,300 --> 01:49:25,050
writing. All right,

1862
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:28,020
I'm writing out a check right
now. It saw I'm writing out a

1863
01:49:28,020 --> 01:49:36,720
check. I'm writing out a check
to John C. Dvorak. $10.10 $10

1864
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:44,340
and I say fine. Okay, how many
years 10? No, they will not be

1865
01:49:44,340 --> 01:49:44,850
yes.

1866
01:49:45,030 --> 01:49:49,410
10 years. 10 years $10 No 10
year okay. What I know 10 years

1867
01:49:49,410 --> 01:49:52,500
$10 is fine. The whole country
is not going to be running self

1868
01:49:52,500 --> 01:49:55,620
driving cars in 10 years where
I'm gonna say where they're

1869
01:49:55,620 --> 01:49:57,420
going to be legally they're
gonna be all over the place and

1870
01:49:57,420 --> 01:50:00,960
you can grab one and take it
like an Uber no is not going to

1871
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:08,820
happen. Yet in 10 years. No?
Yes. Okay. That's the bet you

1872
01:50:08,820 --> 01:50:12,360
don't want to make the bet.
Here's what I'll say, you know,

1873
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:12,510
I'm

1874
01:50:12,510 --> 01:50:15,780
gonna, I'm going to finalise I'm
taking the bet. And we'll

1875
01:50:15,780 --> 01:50:21,450
finalise by saying, There is no
evidence, self driving cars will

1876
01:50:21,450 --> 01:50:25,140
be completely fully integrated
within 10 years. Because there

1877
01:50:25,140 --> 01:50:29,100
is no evidence of that. And I
have learned using this phrase

1878
01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:29,910
from the best.

1879
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:39,960
Who and why? What did I say? You
want? Are you talking about

1880
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:40,530
Obama?

1881
01:50:40,590 --> 01:50:43,290
No, you said you want me to? I
was just leaving that where it

1882
01:50:43,290 --> 01:50:46,770
was. But if you want me to say
it, well, there is no evidence

1883
01:50:46,770 --> 01:50:48,480
people will want to use the
mouse.

1884
01:50:48,630 --> 01:50:50,940
Oh, you're you're using the
mouse thing? Yeah, though. I'm

1885
01:50:50,940 --> 01:50:53,910
using the no evidence. I was
thinking, No, I'm no, I'm using

1886
01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:57,540
the note that no, I'm using
there is no evidence line, which

1887
01:50:57,540 --> 01:51:00,090
is a great line. At the time,
there was no evidence people

1888
01:51:00,090 --> 01:51:01,830
wanted to use the mouse. No,
there wasn't

1889
01:51:01,830 --> 01:51:07,140
not 1984. There wasn't exactly
why wouldn't there be. But But

1890
01:51:07,170 --> 01:51:09,930
today, there's no evidence that
it's going to be completely

1891
01:51:10,410 --> 01:51:12,780
clear. There's no evidence that
people don't want self driving

1892
01:51:12,780 --> 01:51:13,650
cars. That's not true. I

1893
01:51:13,650 --> 01:51:15,840
didn't say that. I said, there's
no evidence, it's going to be

1894
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,900
fully integrated into traffic
within 10 years. It's just not

1895
01:51:18,900 --> 01:51:21,690
going to happen. It's an
overestimation of what people

1896
01:51:21,690 --> 01:51:25,590
think Google can do. Of course,
the world. Thank you. There you

1897
01:51:25,590 --> 01:51:27,870
go. There's no evidence now
you're making all my points for

1898
01:51:27,870 --> 01:51:28,980
me. I have nothing to argue me.

1899
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:35,970
You're a bigot. You're a self
driving car bigot, you hate self

1900
01:51:35,970 --> 01:51:39,360
driving cars. And everyone who
stood even thinks the idea is a

1901
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:40,230
possibility.

1902
01:51:40,530 --> 01:51:45,090
That's hate speech. I don't want
exhibiting I did not say the

1903
01:51:45,090 --> 01:51:46,980
word hate. I did not say the
word. You don't have

1904
01:51:46,980 --> 01:51:49,890
to say the word hate. It's the
hateful nature of what you said.

1905
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:56,340
very hateful and hurt. hurtful.
Yeah. very hurtful. I feel bad

1906
01:51:56,340 --> 01:51:57,570
about what you said.

1907
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,240
You know what, I'm still waiting
for the paperless office, John,

1908
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,600
that was gonna happen to and
that'll happen at that'll happen

1909
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:06,150
when we have the paperless
toilet is when that will happen.

1910
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,690
I have my old comment is the
following this I still think is

1911
01:52:09,690 --> 01:52:13,410
funny. It used to be funnier
1520 years ago, but it was if

1912
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:17,250
anyone had an in started to
invest in the paper industry.

1913
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,850
When the word paperless office
was invented. They'd be a

1914
01:52:20,850 --> 01:52:27,660
multimillionaire. Exactly. Yeah,
exactly. I know what it's got to

1915
01:52:27,660 --> 01:52:31,650
do with anything but okay. All
right. We're done. No, we're not

1916
01:52:31,650 --> 01:52:33,210
done. I call tech news.

1917
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:36,390
A major breach has officials
worried that hackers have been

1918
01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:38,850
able to spy on encrypted
government information for

1919
01:52:38,850 --> 01:52:41,460
possibly the last three years

1920
01:52:41,550 --> 01:52:45,330
Juniper Networks is a is a
company that makes routers and

1921
01:52:45,330 --> 01:52:49,440
computer network equipment. And
a lot of their equipment is used

1922
01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:52,080
by the US government, everybody
from the FBI, Treasury

1923
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:55,230
Department, Department of
Defence. Yesterday, they

1924
01:52:55,230 --> 01:52:59,550
disclosed that there was a major
major breach of their systems.

1925
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:04,050
Somebody three years ago, it
appears, change the source code

1926
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:08,130
unauthorised source code. And
basically what this allowed was

1927
01:53:08,130 --> 01:53:11,010
some sort of backdoor for
hackers to be able to come in

1928
01:53:11,010 --> 01:53:15,420
and out without leaving a trace
and being able to spy on

1929
01:53:15,420 --> 01:53:18,930
encrypted communications. And so
what we're talking about is, you

1930
01:53:18,930 --> 01:53:21,540
know, government communications
that says supposed to be secure.

1931
01:53:21,630 --> 01:53:25,170
Even private companies that are
using VPN networks are things

1932
01:53:25,170 --> 01:53:28,830
that you and I use to log into
our computers, all of that these

1933
01:53:28,830 --> 01:53:32,040
hackers would have been able to
spy on for the last three years

1934
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:36,600
now this flaw was really only
recently discovered. And now we

1935
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:40,050
have the FBI investigating the
Homeland Security Department is

1936
01:53:40,050 --> 01:53:43,080
very, very concerned now they're
trying to do an assessment to

1937
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,500
see how many government agencies
including some of the ones

1938
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,740
handling some of more sensitive
secrets in the US government

1939
01:53:49,830 --> 01:53:54,000
have these networks and whether
or not there was some breach

1940
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,340
their some of their classified
information, some of their top

1941
01:53:56,340 --> 01:53:59,730
security information has been
exposed by these hackers.

1942
01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:03,120
Seeing as you've been the the
Huawei routers has been your

1943
01:54:03,150 --> 01:54:07,440
your route to coined a phrase.
Let's talk about Juniper, who

1944
01:54:07,440 --> 01:54:10,680
makes these things? Who is where
are they made in China?

1945
01:54:10,710 --> 01:54:13,980
Are there Juniper Networks, that
American company are

1946
01:54:13,980 --> 01:54:17,670
they the boxes are made here?
The chips are made here. As far

1947
01:54:17,670 --> 01:54:21,210
as I know, everything's made
here. So I mean, that chips, you

1948
01:54:21,210 --> 01:54:24,630
know, are could be made anywhere
nowadays. But the chips wouldn't

1949
01:54:24,630 --> 01:54:26,790
be the issue, either whoever
changed the source code or

1950
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:28,410
source code they're talking
about?

1951
01:54:28,830 --> 01:54:33,930
It's a poor report. I'm thinking
there must be some kind of boot

1952
01:54:33,930 --> 01:54:35,070
level type stuff.

1953
01:54:35,790 --> 01:54:39,570
Well, probably, I don't know we
need to find a real report on

1954
01:54:39,570 --> 01:54:42,090
this. But there's a couple of
mistakes they made in there

1955
01:54:42,090 --> 01:54:45,960
anyway. One, if you have a VPN
and you're going happen to

1956
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:48,510
somewhere along the line, it
falls through one of these

1957
01:54:48,510 --> 01:54:54,570
routers. The the information on
the VPN is kind of triple

1958
01:54:54,570 --> 01:54:59,010
secure, it has end to end
encryption, and then the MRI

1959
01:54:59,010 --> 01:54:59,550
which

1960
01:54:59,550 --> 01:55:03,060
can we Which ends, at least
you'll know where what computer

1961
01:55:03,060 --> 01:55:05,760
someone's connecting to if you
if you if you have the VPN, you

1962
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,280
know the VPN endpoint, you may
not have that you're right that

1963
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:10,050
you probably don't have the
encrypted information. But you

1964
01:55:10,050 --> 01:55:11,760
have the endpoint and that helps
a lot,

1965
01:55:12,090 --> 01:55:19,320
man. Yeah, it does help a
little. But so that part about

1966
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,620
the VPN is just it's shouldn't
be in the report.

1967
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:25,650
Like a CNN would expect

1968
01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:28,830
they want they wouldn't have it.
So what it is, is just a

1969
01:55:28,830 --> 01:55:32,760
backdoor. So you could just
sounds like US government stuff,

1970
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,820
where you could take the streams
that are going through this

1971
01:55:35,820 --> 01:55:39,930
router, and then you push them
into another TV, just just like

1972
01:55:39,930 --> 01:55:42,120
duplic, you can duplicate him
and send him some others send

1973
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:46,530
them to some NSA computers as
well. This is what NSA does NSA.

1974
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:49,920
I think you're right. And I
think it's an internal as one of

1975
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:52,440
those internal agency things
where when he found out the

1976
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:56,940
other agencies doing something,
yeah. So and I don't understand

1977
01:55:57,060 --> 01:55:58,320
it doesn't sound right.

1978
01:55:59,550 --> 01:56:04,680
Well, it could also just be, you
know, a story promoted by Cisco.

1979
01:56:05,730 --> 01:56:07,230
Well, yeah, that's

1980
01:56:07,230 --> 01:56:10,890
point. That's a good point. That
would be my plan for I'd do

1981
01:56:10,890 --> 01:56:13,440
that. Well, I'm bringing this up
because we obviously don't have

1982
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:16,440
enough information. But this is
the show where not for the tech

1983
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:20,220
Hornies. We'd love dude, dudes
named Ben sis admins, let us

1984
01:56:20,220 --> 01:56:22,950
know what you're seeing what
you're thinking. Yes, somebody

1985
01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:27,690
one of our producers, one of our
many producers will dissect this

1986
01:56:27,690 --> 01:56:31,140
for us with some great
information, then we'll read it

1987
01:56:31,170 --> 01:56:35,040
right from the right from their
valuable hot note.

1988
01:56:35,070 --> 01:56:39,690
But right now, with all of this,
I think there's a it's about

1989
01:56:39,690 --> 01:56:43,830
$700 billion worth of technology
contracts waiting to be filled.

1990
01:56:44,310 --> 01:56:48,030
I think your Cisco and your
Cisco ideas is pretty valid.

1991
01:56:49,230 --> 01:56:52,530
Valid to me. Yeah. Juniper has
always been a pain in the ass to

1992
01:56:52,530 --> 01:56:53,160
Cisco.

1993
01:56:55,380 --> 01:56:58,560
Because they are taking market
share. Yeah, well, that makes

1994
01:56:58,560 --> 01:56:58,710
sense.

1995
01:56:58,710 --> 01:57:01,890
Got some, they got some. I don't
know what their sales pitch is,

1996
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:05,070
is one of those Kleiner Perkins
companies. Oh, really? Well,

1997
01:57:05,070 --> 01:57:08,010
that they have been around. It's
been around. It's been around

1998
01:57:08,010 --> 01:57:13,200
since the 90s. They have some
technology. That's something the

1999
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:16,860
government likes, and I'm not
sure what it is, but I'm never

2000
01:57:16,890 --> 01:57:20,370
gonna know. Baiser put Huawei
in.

2001
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:22,140
Alright, let's close it out.

2002
01:57:24,570 --> 01:57:27,660
Good phones, a landline. And the
phone should be made out of

2003
01:57:27,660 --> 01:57:28,350
Bakelite.

2004
01:57:30,630 --> 01:57:35,100
Yo, yo, yo, yo, before we sorry.
Well, I

2005
01:57:35,100 --> 01:57:38,250
was gonna say, would you have
something to say that before we

2006
01:57:38,250 --> 01:57:41,250
so when you say that then I
defer. I was

2007
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:43,470
just transitioning to something
else. If you want to do

2008
01:57:43,470 --> 01:57:45,030
something, that's cool. I just

2009
01:57:45,060 --> 01:57:48,450
wanted to put people on the
alert to low tech news.

2010
01:57:50,070 --> 01:57:53,340
Tech News. Turk. You mean like
auto mania?

2011
01:57:53,820 --> 01:57:59,850
Auto mania? I like that auto
mania, auto mania. There's an

2012
01:57:59,850 --> 01:58:04,080
auto mania thing going on in
Ottoman Empire. And this is this

2013
01:58:04,110 --> 01:58:07,560
discreet priority again is
getting on my nerves. Yeah, I

2014
01:58:07,590 --> 01:58:10,680
heard about this. Yeah. Okay.
This is called the Ottoman

2015
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:15,120
hearth. And which is always
pronounced the Hirth for for

2016
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:18,300
some reason by the reporters
because it's covered overseas,

2017
01:58:18,300 --> 01:58:22,830
and they pronounced it Hirth
instead of hearth. And it seems

2018
01:58:22,830 --> 01:58:25,980
to be like a brown shirts or
something like that. This guy

2019
01:58:25,980 --> 01:58:28,530
already again, who's now we have
to remember that he's the

2020
01:58:28,530 --> 01:58:32,190
president of Turkey.
Traditionally, the president of

2021
01:58:32,190 --> 01:58:38,100
Turkey is a is a bullshit job.
It is not a job where you really

2022
01:58:38,100 --> 01:58:40,830
have any power. It's mostly for
show

2023
01:58:40,860 --> 01:58:44,670
unless you have all the oil
money from ISIS. Well,

2024
01:58:44,700 --> 01:58:48,390
there's that and it looks like
and arrayed against been tried

2025
01:58:48,390 --> 01:58:53,490
already in early one has been
trying to give himself more

2026
01:58:53,490 --> 01:58:57,810
power as this figurehead instead
of being just a figurehead jerk.

2027
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:02,550
He wants to actually run the
place. And so this is Ottoman

2028
01:59:02,550 --> 01:59:05,070
her thing which goes around
beating people up and it's just

2029
01:59:05,070 --> 01:59:07,230
like the bra if you know your
history, and you know, the brown

2030
01:59:07,230 --> 01:59:12,240
shirts of Germany, the whatever
they were called the s something

2031
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:17,970
LS A I think? Yes essay, the
essay play Ottoman Hirth. And

2032
01:59:17,970 --> 01:59:19,260
this is a kind of a background
or

2033
01:59:19,620 --> 01:59:22,620
Turkish opposition member of
parliament and out of them has

2034
01:59:22,620 --> 01:59:26,820
reiterated his claims that
Islamic State is producing sarin

2035
01:59:26,820 --> 01:59:31,080
gas in Syria, but he's now being
investigated for treason over

2036
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:34,290
the allegations. In the latest
statement, the Member of

2037
01:59:34,290 --> 01:59:38,250
Parliament, said that the ISIL
members obtained the chemicals

2038
01:59:38,250 --> 01:59:41,430
necessary for the production of
sarin which was transported

2039
01:59:41,430 --> 01:59:44,640
through Turkey. He also demanded
that President out of the one

2040
01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:48,780
apologise for the MP wrote about
a lynching campaign against him

2041
01:59:48,780 --> 01:59:51,660
and his party ever since he
shared the allegations in an

2042
01:59:51,660 --> 01:59:55,680
interview with us, and out of
them complained that he received

2043
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:58,920
hundreds of death threats on
social media after we had the

2044
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:02,040
interview. for Turkey based
journalist Madoff Soviet

2045
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:04,920
attempted to meet with a group
responsible for the Harassment

2046
02:00:05,820 --> 02:00:09,120
campaign against it I knew them
is gaining momentum fast and

2047
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:12,720
also on social media. The
Ottoman Earth is associated with

2048
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:16,080
the ruling AK Party and is seen
by many as the group that does

2049
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:19,410
the parties dirty work. They are
known for harassing opposition

2050
02:00:19,410 --> 02:00:22,050
political parties and
newspapers. Now we've reached

2051
02:00:22,050 --> 02:00:24,840
out to several media outlets
here on a stumble to see if they

2052
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:27,930
will comment about the group.
But many told us they're afraid

2053
02:00:27,930 --> 02:00:30,630
to talk to us because we're
Russian media and they're afraid

2054
02:00:30,630 --> 02:00:34,620
of the backlash they may
receive. One group Bill goon was

2055
02:00:34,620 --> 02:00:38,880
willing to tell us about it.
Glover here, keepin Ultimen

2056
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:42,180
hearses a new organisation which
in fact can be described as

2057
02:00:42,210 --> 02:00:45,990
advanced militia force. They
have recently organised violent

2058
02:00:45,990 --> 02:00:48,900
activities in various areas and
have the support of the

2059
02:00:48,900 --> 02:00:51,900
government, such as the attack
on the Haryana newspaper.

2060
02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:55,230
The attack on Hollywood happened
on the same day that the

2061
02:00:55,230 --> 02:00:59,880
opposition Republican People's
Party offices were vandalised by

2062
02:00:59,880 --> 02:01:03,390
men identifying themselves as
members of the armed hurts.

2063
02:01:03,690 --> 02:01:07,050
Founded just five years ago, the
movement which wants to restore

2064
02:01:07,050 --> 02:01:10,350
Islamic and Ottoman culture
already counts more than a

2065
02:01:10,350 --> 02:01:13,830
million members. They claimed to
have a deep love for President

2066
02:01:13,830 --> 02:01:17,250
tilde one, and are willing to
resort to death threats and

2067
02:01:17,250 --> 02:01:20,550
attacks on politicians or
journalists who dare criticise

2068
02:01:20,550 --> 02:01:23,670
the regime. Yeah, yeah.

2069
02:01:25,380 --> 02:01:28,890
Yeah, this isn't being covered
by our media in any way.

2070
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:31,890
We can't say anything bad about
Turkey because they might not

2071
02:01:31,890 --> 02:01:35,910
you know, play play nice with
us. They have plenty of other

2072
02:01:35,910 --> 02:01:40,320
suitors that are fair, there are
fairweather friend. They like to

2073
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:40,620
rush

2074
02:01:40,620 --> 02:01:43,560
operation, they're all in with
ISIS, we have to face that

2075
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:46,290
reality. At some point. They're
all in with the idea of a new

2076
02:01:46,290 --> 02:01:51,480
Ottoman Empire headed up by this
guy who should have no power.

2077
02:01:52,050 --> 02:01:55,380
And they're provoking all this
stuff. They want to kill all the

2078
02:01:55,380 --> 02:01:58,590
curves they want to pull? Well,
you know, in our media thing

2079
02:01:58,590 --> 02:02:02,070
where they just kill everybody
in some ethnic group that are

2080
02:02:02,070 --> 02:02:06,150
making their lives miserable.
Get rid of them. And this is not

2081
02:02:06,180 --> 02:02:09,120
this is not going to turn out
well. And there's a law sort of

2082
02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:10,860
tight relationship with Turkey

2083
02:02:10,860 --> 02:02:15,720
now. And there's a lawsuit right
now. There's a lot of griping

2084
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:20,070
back and forth between Fatima
Gulen and who everyone wants

2085
02:02:20,100 --> 02:02:22,770
extradited. Now that's the
that's the guy with all the

2086
02:02:22,770 --> 02:02:25,650
charter schools and the what I
would like categorise as some

2087
02:02:25,650 --> 02:02:29,820
addresses all over in Texas, a
lot of them the harmony schools.

2088
02:02:32,340 --> 02:02:35,670
So yeah, I think he needs that
he needs to have his brown

2089
02:02:35,670 --> 02:02:37,740
shirts. That's the only way he
can stay in power. But I think

2090
02:02:37,740 --> 02:02:39,750
the people in Turkey are not
happy.

2091
02:02:40,530 --> 02:02:44,100
Well, the people in cosmopolitan
Turkey are not happy. That means

2092
02:02:44,100 --> 02:02:48,030
the city's right. But the vast
majority of people in Turkey are

2093
02:02:48,030 --> 02:02:53,490
living in mud huts out in the
eastern part of the country. And

2094
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:57,450
they think he's great. And he's
a really good religious man. I

2095
02:02:57,450 --> 02:03:00,030
mean, this is this is not going
to work out.

2096
02:03:00,060 --> 02:03:04,650
No, but I think that the lack of
reporting is obvious. We cannot

2097
02:03:04,650 --> 02:03:08,100
be making turkey look bad right
now. We need them.

2098
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:12,810
Well, showing us their airport.
Yeah. Yeah. Great.

2099
02:03:13,770 --> 02:03:20,370
And before we thank the
shortlist for today, are you now

2100
02:03:20,370 --> 02:03:23,340
you said something in a
newsletter? Are you going to

2101
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:26,610
watch the Miss Universe tonight?
Or is it not being broadcast?

2102
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:28,980
is being broadcast on Fox? Yes.

2103
02:03:30,780 --> 02:03:33,600
Can I still Yeah, we want to
call winners.

2104
02:03:34,380 --> 02:03:36,330
I don't know what these girls
look like. Oh, I

2105
02:03:36,330 --> 02:03:39,870
don't think this is an
international Yes.

2106
02:03:39,990 --> 02:03:42,990
Oh, hold on. I can call winners
here. Let me protect my let me

2107
02:03:42,990 --> 02:03:46,080
take my charge with all the
countries of the world. Hold on.

2108
02:03:46,170 --> 02:03:49,680
Hold on. Wait a minute. Let me
Oh, it's right here. I got my

2109
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:55,020
Dart. Okay. Let me take the Dart
and throw it.

2110
02:03:56,250 --> 02:03:57,480
Okay, it

2111
02:03:57,480 --> 02:03:59,460
looks like Ukraine and Miss
Ukraine.

2112
02:04:00,090 --> 02:04:06,360
I think you may be off she'll be
in the top 10 For sure. I think

2113
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:07,710
it'll be Miss Spain.

2114
02:04:08,910 --> 02:04:10,380
Why Miss Spain

2115
02:04:10,410 --> 02:04:13,980
there's renewed confidence in
Spain. The economy here is now

2116
02:04:13,980 --> 02:04:17,670
growing. But the effects of the
financial crisis are still being

2117
02:04:17,670 --> 02:04:21,630
felt and corruption scandals
have damaged old political

2118
02:04:21,630 --> 02:04:26,190
parties. So many world today
vote for change. China is a

2119
02:04:26,190 --> 02:04:30,060
teacher. He says his salary
hasn't gone up in seven years.

2120
02:04:31,050 --> 02:04:34,560
Monica and Carlos wants a new
government to tackle corruption

2121
02:04:34,590 --> 02:04:38,160
and unemployment. But like many
others, they still haven't

2122
02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:42,660
decided who will get their vote.
A lot of Spaniards are turning

2123
02:04:42,660 --> 02:04:46,590
to a new Liberal Party called
citizens. Their leader Albert

2124
02:04:46,590 --> 02:04:51,960
Rivera is just 36 Many others
will vote for 37 year old Pablo

2125
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:57,570
Iglesias and his anti austerity
party podemos but the favourite

2126
02:04:57,570 --> 02:05:01,110
to win the most votes is the
current prime Miss Mr. Mariana

2127
02:05:01,110 --> 02:05:05,220
Roy, his conservative popular
party claims credit for taking

2128
02:05:05,220 --> 02:05:07,650
the economy from crisis to
growth.

2129
02:05:08,190 --> 02:05:10,200
I'm thinking it's going to be
Spain because there's going to

2130
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:15,690
be a lot of uncertainty and
strange news of this election.

2131
02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:20,430
We're both overlooking the
obvious, which is the story we

2132
02:05:20,430 --> 02:05:25,620
did. On Putin complimenting
Trump.

2133
02:05:27,270 --> 02:05:29,790
Oh, and this is a Trump show

2134
02:05:29,850 --> 02:05:33,900
to Trump show. Okay, and Putin
comes as as Trump is

2135
02:05:33,900 --> 02:05:36,540
great, so Trump's gonna have
Miss Russia when

2136
02:05:36,930 --> 02:05:38,370
that wouldn't surprise me.

2137
02:05:38,370 --> 02:05:41,760
That's a good one. That's a good
one. I like that. I like that.

2138
02:05:42,270 --> 02:05:45,720
One thing though the the bodies
may not be this well, of course

2139
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:48,210
it's not the same thing runway
models not the same as Miss

2140
02:05:48,210 --> 02:05:52,050
Universe. But there's new
legislation in Paris as we have

2141
02:05:52,050 --> 02:05:52,740
the fashion just

2142
02:05:52,740 --> 02:05:56,400
been going how many days when I
was a little kid I was one year

2143
02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:58,440
old this was going on but now I
know what you

2144
02:05:58,470 --> 02:06:01,440
but now it's legislation. Now
there's a law

2145
02:06:01,470 --> 02:06:06,990
these days you can be too skinny
in Paris. France is now banning

2146
02:06:06,990 --> 02:06:11,160
excessively thin fashion models.
Violators will be fined up to

2147
02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:17,070
75,000 euros more than $81,000
and could eat Hey community this

2148
02:06:17,070 --> 02:06:21,300
bagel quick and face jail time
the law will enforce regular

2149
02:06:21,300 --> 02:06:25,290
weight checks. models will be
required to present a medical

2150
02:06:25,290 --> 02:06:29,040
certificate showing Body Mass
Index compliance with

2151
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:31,920
regulations before being allowed
to work.

2152
02:06:31,950 --> 02:06:34,980
I think I'm going to become a
runway model inspector John but

2153
02:06:34,980 --> 02:06:37,590
I think this is my new vocation
scares me we have to check your

2154
02:06:37,590 --> 02:06:40,020
body fat here. Can I see your
medical certification? Make sure

2155
02:06:40,020 --> 02:06:40,230
everything

2156
02:06:40,740 --> 02:06:46,380
is cellulite come from? Damn is
all the shows will be in.

2157
02:06:48,270 --> 02:06:51,840
Wait, there's other countries
who have this this law as well.

2158
02:06:52,290 --> 02:06:56,640
But Italy doesn't? I don't think
so foolish?

2159
02:06:56,910 --> 02:07:02,820
Man. Probably not? Probably not.
Yeah, I know. They've been

2160
02:07:02,820 --> 02:07:04,860
talking about it. I've been
hearing about it for decades.

2161
02:07:04,860 --> 02:07:06,870
But now there's actual
legislation and there will be

2162
02:07:06,870 --> 02:07:08,520
checks. Spot check

2163
02:07:08,550 --> 02:07:12,510
like the champion was only done
just to start a new industry of

2164
02:07:12,510 --> 02:07:15,810
bureaucratic bureaucracy of
model checking.

2165
02:07:15,990 --> 02:07:19,050
Well, I think we should be in
the front of the line, my good

2166
02:07:19,050 --> 02:07:19,470
friend.

2167
02:07:20,670 --> 02:07:24,090
I'm gonna show my school by
donate to no agenda. Imagine all

2168
02:07:24,090 --> 02:07:26,670
the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

2169
02:07:34,110 --> 02:07:36,390
well, we have a very few people
that thanks so we'll thank them

2170
02:07:36,390 --> 02:07:43,530
all. At least the few Dame Beth
Baronet tests of Baja in Tucson,

2171
02:07:43,530 --> 02:07:49,170
Arizona 12206. And she says
Heil, Heil. belated birthday.

2172
02:07:49,170 --> 02:07:53,550
Greetings to my 17 year old
niece, Miss Elizabeth. No pics

2173
02:07:53,550 --> 02:07:58,500
for Adam. She apparently was hit
in the mouth that during combo

2174
02:07:58,500 --> 02:08:04,950
birthday, oh, pch, road trip.
Beautiful and dropped shop. She

2175
02:08:04,950 --> 02:08:08,340
has a birthday too. I guess in
December. I will put chandeliers

2176
02:08:08,340 --> 02:08:13,740
to Morris consulting 7777 from
loss of wages Nevada.

2177
02:08:14,850 --> 02:08:22,410
Christopher trop in Sturgis,
Michigan 7337 Palindrome James

2178
02:08:22,410 --> 02:08:27,990
Zookal in Los Angeles,
California 6969. Eric Thornburg

2179
02:08:27,990 --> 02:08:33,030
in Honolulu, Hawaii for defy for
defy Richard Biggs in Fairview

2180
02:08:33,030 --> 02:08:35,760
Tennessee double nickels on the
dime along with Dean rocker

2181
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:42,060
Parts Unknown 5510 Fabrice
Schumi in Anaheim, California.

2182
02:08:42,390 --> 02:08:50,250
Mile High Club 52 at Mike mer VA
in Youngstown Ohio another mile

2183
02:08:50,250 --> 02:08:55,260
high club member 50 to 80 He's
got a long thing here used to

2184
02:08:55,260 --> 02:08:58,410
work this is going to maybe good
stay a bit listening since the

2185
02:08:58,410 --> 02:09:01,290
beginning of the year I'm here
first time donor like to donate

2186
02:09:01,290 --> 02:09:05,850
to show 777 which is my second
favourite aircraft next to the

2187
02:09:05,850 --> 02:09:09,420
Boeing 717 I've never been on
this one plan I've never been on

2188
02:09:09,420 --> 02:09:13,260
one either. No. I've ever seen
one. But it could get I could

2189
02:09:13,260 --> 02:09:15,600
not get any money together make
donations until now. I've been

2190
02:09:15,630 --> 02:09:19,620
unemployed since July. I used to
work for AirTran airways then

2191
02:09:19,620 --> 02:09:22,380
got swallowed up by John's
favourite airline the peanut

2192
02:09:22,380 --> 02:09:28,620
Express southwest like like
peanuts would you like to

2193
02:09:28,620 --> 02:09:29,280
peanuts? No

2194
02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:31,860
no you get to it's peanuts or
pretzels?

2195
02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:35,790
Yes choice a recently they have
been very low on the pretzels.

2196
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:38,430
And so I'm gonna explain again

2197
02:09:38,430 --> 02:09:40,920
what we dislike about peanuts on
the plane.

2198
02:09:43,410 --> 02:09:46,650
Oh, well there's a number of
things that could go on with a

2199
02:09:46,650 --> 02:09:47,610
couple my pet peeve first

2200
02:09:47,610 --> 02:09:50,190
of all, I do not like it when at
the beginning of the flight you

2201
02:09:50,190 --> 02:09:50,700
hear

2202
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:54,600
ladies and gentlemen because we
have a passenger who is allergic

2203
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:58,020
will be no peanuts on the plane.
No peanuts on the plane.

2204
02:09:58,500 --> 02:10:01,110
Yeah, I've never had that side.
Exactly. He has never held has

2205
02:10:01,110 --> 02:10:03,930
happened several times to me.
Well, what I don't like is you

2206
02:10:03,930 --> 02:10:06,690
got these guys. And he is
because people are all staring

2207
02:10:06,690 --> 02:10:10,440
forward kind of like putty and
one of the Seinfeld episodes

2208
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:13,650
just staring and blank looking
ahead and they take the peanut

2209
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:16,980
thing and then they dumped a
peanuts in their hand. And then

2210
02:10:16,980 --> 02:10:21,450
they make a fist. And then they
shake, shake, shake the fist,

2211
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:25,020
then they punch themselves kind
of in the mouth, and not in a no

2212
02:10:25,020 --> 02:10:28,290
agenda way but kind of in about
the sideways they put and maybe

2213
02:10:28,290 --> 02:10:31,020
a peanut comes out and they chew
on it. And then they shake,

2214
02:10:31,020 --> 02:10:34,020
shake, shake, and they pop they
do it again. They pop themselves

2215
02:10:34,020 --> 02:10:37,710
in the face and get some peanuts
out of the fistful of peanuts. I

2216
02:10:37,710 --> 02:10:42,660
don't know. But if I just find
it so annoying to witness this.

2217
02:10:43,980 --> 02:10:47,250
That's what I don't like about
the peanuts. Yeah. I mean, you

2218
02:10:47,250 --> 02:10:48,300
just want to say what are

2219
02:10:48,300 --> 02:10:51,600
you doing? Everybody is sitting
to sit and listen to the show.

2220
02:10:51,600 --> 02:10:54,450
And I got oh crap, but everybody
knows someone who does this.

2221
02:10:54,750 --> 02:10:58,710
Everyone knows someone who does
it. Shake, shake, shake, shake,

2222
02:10:58,710 --> 02:10:59,520
shake, shake. Oh,

2223
02:11:00,389 --> 02:11:02,579
anvil, and then they have to
wipe their hand. They wipe it on

2224
02:11:02,579 --> 02:11:04,469
their, on their trousers, goo

2225
02:11:04,470 --> 02:11:07,530
and all kinds of assault on
their hands and then they and

2226
02:11:07,530 --> 02:11:10,530
then the worst part is something
that really bugs me. Okay, so

2227
02:11:10,530 --> 02:11:13,260
you get people they get like a
blip. I've seen this happens. I

2228
02:11:13,260 --> 02:11:15,180
really get irked when I see this
at dinner.

2229
02:11:15,269 --> 02:11:18,869
Is this a screed or rant? This
would be a rant. Okay.

2230
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:24,300
screeds are usually fairly well
structured rants are just what

2231
02:11:24,300 --> 02:11:26,400
did you know? They're just
different. They're more

2232
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:29,160
accurate. Well, thank you for
the compliment. That wasn't a

2233
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:29,700
compliment

2234
02:11:29,940 --> 02:11:33,060
you had, it seems to me when I
say well structured it means you

2235
02:11:33,060 --> 02:11:36,960
were planning it now. Okay. So
you got to salt or enhance or

2236
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:40,740
you got to plate full of food.
And so you, you can do this and

2237
02:11:40,740 --> 02:11:42,960
you'll rub your hands over the
food.

2238
02:11:46,350 --> 02:11:50,580
I know if you ever seen this?
Yes, of course. Of course. This

2239
02:11:50,580 --> 02:11:50,820
idea

2240
02:11:50,820 --> 02:11:55,260
what do you what are you talking
all the dead skin and salt and

2241
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:58,380
who knows what's in your hands.
And it's all falling on the food

2242
02:11:58,380 --> 02:12:01,890
that you prepared for them to
eat? And now it's contaminated

2243
02:12:01,890 --> 02:12:04,770
with God knows what. And it's
just like and then.

2244
02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:09,000
So what do you do in a case like
this? I call him out. Oh, I just

2245
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:10,890
stand up and fart in their face.
I think that's what

2246
02:12:11,580 --> 02:12:15,120
you do. Okay, anyway, that's my
little gripe about the peanuts.

2247
02:12:15,150 --> 02:12:17,100
That's a great what is that?
What do you want me to talk

2248
02:12:17,100 --> 02:12:22,170
about that my complaint? Yeah.
Thank you. Brian Leslie in

2249
02:12:22,170 --> 02:12:28,050
Bremerton, Washington to do 150
And he says Merry Christmas. And

2250
02:12:28,050 --> 02:12:32,730
now we have $50 donors. And I'll
read them in order. We're

2251
02:12:32,730 --> 02:12:37,800
already there. Charles bro
Shetty and in Shan China, RBI,

2252
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:42,540
Incheon, South Korea. And he
says he's lived again Sean's

2253
02:12:42,690 --> 02:12:45,450
reclaimed. He says there's no
fish in the streets and it's not

2254
02:12:45,450 --> 02:12:45,780
flooded.

2255
02:12:47,340 --> 02:12:50,760
We keep us up to speed on the
fish in the streets for the

2256
02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:52,680
South Korean fish.

2257
02:12:52,770 --> 02:12:57,390
I will tell you and so far as
the mudflats are concerned today

2258
02:12:57,810 --> 02:12:58,650
and it's been raining

2259
02:12:58,740 --> 02:13:02,520
Do you want it's what do you
want to do an official report or

2260
02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:02,880
what do you want

2261
02:13:03,060 --> 02:13:05,220
to do official report this is
outrageous. Okay,

2262
02:13:05,220 --> 02:13:09,330
hold on a second. I wasn't
prepared for this. He's is

2263
02:13:09,330 --> 02:13:10,740
padding the section? Yeah.

2264
02:13:11,340 --> 02:13:14,250
Padding the sexual cause of
what's happening in Greenland

2265
02:13:14,250 --> 02:13:18,240
right now. The maps of the world
will have to be redrawn. Now.

2266
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:21,780
This is what would happen to San
Francisco Bay.

2267
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:28,680
To see if we're drowning, yeah,
John C. Dvorak. What do you see

2268
02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:29,850
out the window and

2269
02:13:29,850 --> 02:13:33,780
mud? This is the lowest The tide
has been for. I think any show

2270
02:13:33,780 --> 02:13:37,170
we've ever done there is the mud
flats or like there's like

2271
02:13:37,170 --> 02:13:40,590
hardly any water in there at
all. It says though the oceans

2272
02:13:40,590 --> 02:13:41,700
have dropped a foot.

2273
02:13:43,050 --> 02:13:46,500
That doesn't sound possible.
What about the rising oceans?

2274
02:13:46,620 --> 02:13:48,750
I don't know. I just mystifies
me something's.

2275
02:13:57,030 --> 02:13:58,980
We're up to date on global
warming.

2276
02:13:59,130 --> 02:14:04,110
Paul Roberson in the upper tract
of West Virginia $50. These are

2277
02:14:04,110 --> 02:14:09,090
all 50s and he says Mary says
Merry Christmas again. Steve

2278
02:14:09,090 --> 02:14:14,640
Winslow, Bristol, Avon, UK.
Chris Moore in Indianapolis,

2279
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:19,350
Indiana. Diana Carruthers and
Tumwater Washington, where they

2280
02:14:19,350 --> 02:14:24,540
used to make a beer. Andrew
Halverson in Gravenhurst or

2281
02:14:24,540 --> 02:14:30,030
Gravenhurst grey Robin Hurst I
think it's in Canada. Michael

2282
02:14:30,030 --> 02:14:33,000
gates in Colorado Springs,
Colorado. That's it. We're done.

2283
02:14:33,870 --> 02:14:40,500
Dams quick and easy. Dang
1234567 $50 donors. It's just

2284
02:14:40,500 --> 02:14:43,680
kind of low. We do have a few
people that donated 25 bucks

2285
02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:46,980
that was wishes a happy even
that is kind of a small number.

2286
02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:50,880
I was hoping to get some action
from for just a merry Christmas.

2287
02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:51,330
Okay,

2288
02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:55,680
we'll we'll just plod on through
Yeah, there will be something to

2289
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:58,170
discuss. There always is
something going on. It's not all

2290
02:14:58,170 --> 02:15:02,520
just retrospectives and year end
lists, which is pretty much

2291
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:04,290
love. So if you

2292
02:15:04,590 --> 02:15:08,820
have 25th deeds, and I know how
these work, because nobody

2293
02:15:08,820 --> 02:15:11,490
really works during these last
two weeks of the year, they

2294
02:15:11,490 --> 02:15:14,910
throw this crap together, if you
will. If you critically watch

2295
02:15:14,910 --> 02:15:18,840
these best ofs, you always pull
the hair out a year ago what how

2296
02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:21,570
did you leave out and you have
your own favourite best stuff

2297
02:15:21,570 --> 02:15:22,920
that should be on the list.

2298
02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:27,030
I spent? Probably about 20
minutes last night I forget who

2299
02:15:27,030 --> 02:15:33,840
had they had everybody who died
in 2015 157 people. Celebrities

2300
02:15:34,590 --> 02:15:41,460
not all celebrate. He's in like
movie actors or, or scientists

2301
02:15:41,490 --> 02:15:43,740
know people you would know in
general just about everybody and

2302
02:15:43,740 --> 02:15:45,660
there was quite a list. We lost
a lot of good people.

2303
02:15:48,090 --> 02:15:49,620
Yeah, do you watch the whole
thing?

2304
02:15:49,890 --> 02:15:51,780
That'd be it was just a
slideshow. I was just clicking

2305
02:15:51,780 --> 02:15:55,800
through via seeing a new ads
seeing a new ad with every

2306
02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:56,100
click.

2307
02:15:56,820 --> 02:15:59,700
What's cool about those
slideshows when you have ad

2308
02:15:59,700 --> 02:16:00,420
blocker?

2309
02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:04,920
Yeah, they don't work. No, they
do work. Not mine. Okay, maybe

2310
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:05,730
they were like this.

2311
02:16:05,730 --> 02:16:09,000
You go click, click, click dead
guy dead. Get click, click,

2312
02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:12,840
click, and then there's a blank
page. That's what I'm doing.

2313
02:16:12,840 --> 02:16:16,050
Yeah. It's an ad. It's an ad
Exactly. Click again. And your

2314
02:16:16,050 --> 02:16:17,430
company has more characters.
Yeah,

2315
02:16:17,460 --> 02:16:20,010
we don't take ads on this
programme, which is why we can

2316
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:23,310
speak in the way we do and, and
have

2317
02:16:23,759 --> 02:16:26,939
weekend like, for example. And
this would have been a good lead

2318
02:16:26,939 --> 02:16:29,309
in for the segment, which I
forgot about, but now she

2319
02:16:29,309 --> 02:16:33,329
mentioned it. We could for
example, talk about LifeLock.

2320
02:16:34,769 --> 02:16:38,219
Really, and their 100 million
dollars that was very

2321
02:16:38,279 --> 02:16:42,629
underreported. Oh, I don't know
what their customers. Well, hold

2322
02:16:42,630 --> 02:16:46,290
on. Let's put that into the C
Block after I do the birthdays.

2323
02:16:46,290 --> 02:16:49,110
And thank everybody. How's that?
Okay. Yes, we're sorry. We have

2324
02:16:49,110 --> 02:16:52,800
another show. Coming up on
Thursday. It'll be Christmas

2325
02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:55,260
Eve. We're working. Your support
is needed

2326
02:16:55,320 --> 02:16:58,290
for.org/and.

2327
02:17:05,550 --> 02:17:07,440
We'll start off with to belated
birthday. You heard her there

2328
02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:10,380
and the donation segment Dame
Beth celebrated on December 2 We

2329
02:17:10,380 --> 02:17:12,840
say happy birthday to her and
she also congratulate her niece

2330
02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:16,560
Miss Elizabeth Elizabeth 17. No
picture that she celebrated on

2331
02:17:16,560 --> 02:17:19,920
December 6 And also today Dr.
mercans is happy birthday to his

2332
02:17:19,920 --> 02:17:26,790
son Oscar. He will be 16 or he
turned 16 Tomorrow there you go.

2333
02:17:26,970 --> 02:17:30,240
And of course we say happy
birthday to Steven voice zero

2334
02:17:30,270 --> 02:17:34,560
who turns zero on Thursday happy
birthday from all your buddies

2335
02:17:34,560 --> 02:17:36,570
here and Merry Christmas from
the best podcast in the

2336
02:17:36,570 --> 02:17:42,570
universe. And we congratulate
sir ritual, Richard Bagwell, who

2337
02:17:42,570 --> 02:17:46,320
becomes vie count even though he
doesn't really care to hear

2338
02:17:46,380 --> 02:17:49,710
Yeah, that's okay. seem to care.
It's okay. It's okay.

2339
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:51,000
Okay, still my count,

2340
02:17:51,029 --> 02:17:56,159
hey, tell me about did someone
because I think the promise with

2341
02:17:56,609 --> 02:18:01,799
LifeLock was, if your identity
gets stolen, then we promise to

2342
02:18:01,829 --> 02:18:04,349
spend up to a million dollars on
fixing it or

2343
02:18:04,830 --> 02:18:10,560
they spend whatever they have to
show apparently. I'm not gonna

2344
02:18:10,560 --> 02:18:14,730
say I am not absolutely sure
what their model might be the

2345
02:18:14,730 --> 02:18:16,980
business model, which might be
just collect as much money as

2346
02:18:16,980 --> 02:18:20,130
you can. And if somebody gets
their identity stolen, which

2347
02:18:20,130 --> 02:18:23,040
seems unlikely to a person that
would be so conscientious as to

2348
02:18:23,040 --> 02:18:26,190
hire these guys to do this. So
you probably won't get your

2349
02:18:26,190 --> 02:18:28,890
identity stolen. You just be
throwing money at the company.

2350
02:18:29,310 --> 02:18:33,180
They have been fined or sued. Is
it like a class action and the

2351
02:18:33,180 --> 02:18:37,170
government's going after him for
like 100 million they got to

2352
02:18:37,170 --> 02:18:40,470
minute 100 million dollar
companies not can afford this

2353
02:18:41,670 --> 02:18:46,620
for not doing anything? Because
the only article showed up and I

2354
02:18:46,620 --> 02:18:49,320
think Seeking Alpha Man had a
thing because it's this stock

2355
02:18:49,320 --> 02:18:53,070
market. Right. But now it's not
covered because these guys have

2356
02:18:53,070 --> 02:18:57,120
been are used by everyone
because their main marketing

2357
02:18:57,120 --> 02:19:02,580
technique was radio shows. You
heard LifeLock stories on Rush

2358
02:19:02,580 --> 02:19:05,790
Limbaugh. I don't know if
Michael Savage but they're all

2359
02:19:05,790 --> 02:19:09,000
the right wing guys use them and
you have different most of the

2360
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:14,070
podcasters you know, have gone
through a lifelike moment. Yeah.

2361
02:19:14,490 --> 02:19:17,280
Yeah. And they don't we won't
say anything. This is the reason

2362
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:19,170
that we have to do the show the
way we do it. We that's why

2363
02:19:19,290 --> 02:19:22,320
people do have to support the
show with the you know, as

2364
02:19:22,320 --> 02:19:24,360
opposed to going to watch.

2365
02:19:24,570 --> 02:19:27,270
No one will report on no one
will report on the things that

2366
02:19:27,270 --> 02:19:30,240
are messed up with the
advertisers. Yeah, such as an

2367
02:19:30,300 --> 02:19:33,630
archer to Daniel Midlands and
Burlington Northern and Boeing

2368
02:19:33,630 --> 02:19:37,200
and Raytheon. And these are all
advertisers. Not on podcast, but

2369
02:19:37,200 --> 02:19:41,250
yeah, yeah. Hey, I've noticed
something that's been popping up

2370
02:19:41,250 --> 02:19:44,190
in restaurants here in Austin.
Austin is a great restaurant

2371
02:19:44,190 --> 02:19:48,810
town. What are the little
beansprouts called you know,

2372
02:19:48,810 --> 02:19:51,780
just the little shoots with the
little leaves on them that you

2373
02:19:51,780 --> 02:19:53,730
put kind of as a garnish on top
of stuff.

2374
02:19:53,760 --> 02:19:58,830
Oh, yeah. That what is that does
it pass say around here but it

2375
02:19:58,830 --> 02:19:59,400
does not

2376
02:19:59,490 --> 02:20:04,650
in In Europe we call it tau gay
I think this little green,

2377
02:20:05,250 --> 02:20:05,790
little green

2378
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:10,920
scone greens as well routes is
called sprouts here, but not

2379
02:20:10,920 --> 02:20:13,350
being sprouted the Chinese bean
sprouts. These are the little

2380
02:20:13,350 --> 02:20:14,820
green ones that you're talking
about.

2381
02:20:14,880 --> 02:20:19,500
Yeah. And now in two different
eateries here in Austin, they

2382
02:20:19,500 --> 02:20:22,170
present these and there's a
great little restaurant called

2383
02:20:22,170 --> 02:20:25,650
Gardner on the east side farm to
table and this is where I first

2384
02:20:25,650 --> 02:20:28,140
picked it up and these are
fairly inexpensive places to

2385
02:20:28,170 --> 02:20:32,070
eat. You can get a reservation
because they're small. And now

2386
02:20:32,100 --> 02:20:35,250
in that restaurant and I forget
the other one, they present it's

2387
02:20:35,250 --> 02:20:38,370
like oh, we have here and the
chef has made this and blue and

2388
02:20:38,370 --> 02:20:46,260
on top we have some nice micro
greens, micro greens and they're

2389
02:20:46,260 --> 02:20:50,670
all using this micro greens and
be on the lookout for this.

2390
02:20:51,119 --> 02:20:54,839
Well now I do mention it. A
micro green is a tiny vegetable

2391
02:20:54,839 --> 02:20:57,569
green that is used both as a
visual and flavour component of

2392
02:20:57,569 --> 02:21:00,269
ingredients primary in the
dining restaurants, fine dining

2393
02:21:00,269 --> 02:21:03,989
restaurants, fine dining chefs
use micro greens to enhance the

2394
02:21:03,989 --> 02:21:07,559
beauty taste and freshness of
their dishes with these delicate

2395
02:21:07,739 --> 02:21:12,329
textures. This is something I'm
not I'm just talking to my hat

2396
02:21:13,439 --> 02:21:17,819
but if I'm not mistaken they do
sell these at the store the head

2397
02:21:17,819 --> 02:21:20,879
I'm thinking of Monterey foods
here in the Berkeley area has

2398
02:21:21,089 --> 02:21:26,309
these you can buy them but but a
handful I think and I think

2399
02:21:26,309 --> 02:21:31,529
there is a soap opera I believe
them to be hydroponically. So

2400
02:21:31,529 --> 02:21:35,219
hydroponic thing, and therefore
the you can call them million

2401
02:21:35,219 --> 02:21:38,039
calm with every one greens so
you can grow them by the gross

2402
02:21:38,039 --> 02:21:41,399
load. Because it's just you
know, there's no real nutrient.

2403
02:21:41,459 --> 02:21:41,879
It's just

2404
02:21:42,960 --> 02:21:43,920
it's like cardboard.

2405
02:21:44,250 --> 02:21:46,470
It's a green card just spraying
this stuff out.

2406
02:21:46,500 --> 02:21:50,010
I'm waiting for someone to say
they're micro veggies that I

2407
02:21:50,010 --> 02:21:52,890
would feel much better than Oh,
micro veggies.

2408
02:21:53,010 --> 02:21:57,960
I'd walk out. Them look at
related, sir. Here's related

2409
02:21:57,960 --> 02:22:00,600
searches micro green seeds,
where you can do it yourself.

2410
02:22:00,780 --> 02:22:05,880
List of microgreens high high
growth hydroponic greens, so

2411
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:11,070
there's just that's what it is.
How to grow microgreens as a

2412
02:22:11,610 --> 02:22:17,490
growing microgreens microgreens
seeds, petite microgreens edible

2413
02:22:17,490 --> 02:22:21,480
flowers. Same thing. Microgreens
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2414
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:25,560
I'm just gonna call them micro
veggies. Now on. You might as

2415
02:22:25,560 --> 02:22:28,680
well just take those back. I
want micro veggies.

2416
02:22:30,930 --> 02:22:36,000
Okay, it looks like it's mostly
amaranth, and arugula. Oh, some

2417
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:41,880
basil. They've Yeah, good. We've
grown micro basil. Alright. I

2418
02:22:41,880 --> 02:22:45,090
don't know if I was just a non
said this is a lot. What can we

2419
02:22:45,090 --> 02:22:49,230
do? It's more like jack up the
price. marketing is

2420
02:22:49,230 --> 02:22:53,220
marketing. Yeah, I don't know if
you're ready, but I think I'll

2421
02:22:53,220 --> 02:23:06,240
try it anyway. Section. That's
right now entering second half

2422
02:23:06,240 --> 02:23:13,650
of show. As you know, I do not.
I'm never afraid to explore

2423
02:23:13,650 --> 02:23:16,500
areas that could put me into
great ridicule.

2424
02:23:18,840 --> 02:23:20,160
great danger.

2425
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:27,180
great danger, too. And I have a
feeling that may be something

2426
02:23:27,180 --> 02:23:31,530
that and this is all just
speculation. And who knows. This

2427
02:23:31,530 --> 02:23:38,850
flat Earth concept? Again, yeah,
it's worth talking about AI. And

2428
02:23:38,850 --> 02:23:42,300
there's there's two parts to
what I want to say. So this

2429
02:23:42,300 --> 02:23:45,210
really is I'm just seeing it
everywhere. People are sending

2430
02:23:45,210 --> 02:23:50,130
me lots of information, then
there's a number of not so much

2431
02:23:50,130 --> 02:23:54,900
that people can pollute, prove
the earth is flat. But there are

2432
02:23:54,900 --> 02:23:59,370
a number of things that are
tough to explain. That prove the

2433
02:23:59,370 --> 02:24:04,650
world is not flat. It's a smear
or something else. And what I'm

2434
02:24:04,650 --> 02:24:05,130
disputing

2435
02:24:05,130 --> 02:24:07,860
else hold on a sec. You've
introduced a new element here.

2436
02:24:07,890 --> 02:24:08,370
Yeah.

2437
02:24:08,940 --> 02:24:14,370
Oblique block. Oblique, oblique,
oblique, oblique. Okay. Yeah,

2438
02:24:14,400 --> 02:24:18,090
this is actually Neil deGrasse.
Tyson says oblique. He says that

2439
02:24:18,090 --> 02:24:20,580
the world is little fatter in
the middle and we're kind of

2440
02:24:20,580 --> 02:24:26,100
like a squashed sphere. That's
what he says. But the thing that

2441
02:24:26,100 --> 02:24:30,600
bothers me is, and I tried to
look up the etymology could not

2442
02:24:30,600 --> 02:24:34,950
find it. I never really even
considered any of this or wasn't

2443
02:24:34,950 --> 02:24:37,260
probably not even open if
someone sent me an email about

2444
02:24:37,260 --> 02:24:43,110
Flat Earth. But for the past
couple of years, it's been this.

2445
02:24:43,950 --> 02:24:49,080
Oops. That's not your that's
neither one of those. It's

2446
02:24:49,080 --> 02:24:51,690
neither one of those. No, it's
this one.

2447
02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:55,320
Nobody has a monopoly on what is
a very hard problem. But I don't

2448
02:24:55,320 --> 02:24:58,590
have much patience for anyone
who denies that this challenge

2449
02:24:58,590 --> 02:25:01,800
is real. We don't have time for
a meeting of the flatter

2450
02:25:01,800 --> 02:25:02,460
society.

2451
02:25:02,580 --> 02:25:06,240
Now this is I think the first
time in my life I've ever heard

2452
02:25:06,240 --> 02:25:10,530
that phrase as this a phrase
that you are familiar with. It

2453
02:25:10,530 --> 02:25:13,800
sounds familiar, but I don't
salutely But who, who used this

2454
02:25:13,830 --> 02:25:18,450
in recent memory, the Flat Earth
Society? Well, saying we don't

2455
02:25:18,450 --> 02:25:21,120
have the time for a meeting of
the Flat Earth Society.

2456
02:25:21,780 --> 02:25:24,360
That whole phrase, I don't know
what the whole phrase well, that

2457
02:25:24,360 --> 02:25:25,950
I've heard a Flat Earth Society.

2458
02:25:26,340 --> 02:25:30,090
Right? I think it's, it's why
does it come up all of a sudden?

2459
02:25:30,630 --> 02:25:34,200
i This in fact, flat earth
people are aliens code there?

2460
02:25:34,230 --> 02:25:37,440
Well, I think it's triggering is
what it is. I don't think flat

2461
02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:41,220
earth people are necessarily
against climate change. In fact,

2462
02:25:41,220 --> 02:25:44,220
I've found a lot of evidence to
the contrary. But here's two

2463
02:25:44,220 --> 02:25:45,390
questions I have for you.

2464
02:25:45,840 --> 02:25:48,840
Well, that's an interesting way
to go. Did you know that most

2465
02:25:48,840 --> 02:25:53,760
Flat Earthers are all in on
climate change? ipso facto,

2466
02:25:54,690 --> 02:25:57,360
ipso facto? Yeah. What's

2467
02:25:57,690 --> 02:26:00,090
that means? The answer is
obvious now that that climate

2468
02:26:00,090 --> 02:26:02,310
change is bullcrap, just like
the flat earth is.

2469
02:26:03,360 --> 02:26:07,260
Okay. Well, the curvature
problem is the one that

2470
02:26:07,260 --> 02:26:13,680
interests me the most. Why are
you doing that? Well, if if you

2471
02:26:13,710 --> 02:26:18,720
do the calculations, then
because of the curvature of the

2472
02:26:18,720 --> 02:26:22,050
earth, you should not be able to
see a lot of things. And the

2473
02:26:22,050 --> 02:26:26,790
most prominent example that is
used is a lighthouse. And if you

2474
02:26:26,790 --> 02:26:29,850
look at the you know, after a
six miles or so distance, you

2475
02:26:29,850 --> 02:26:32,700
should not be able to see a 70
foot Lighthouse because of the

2476
02:26:32,700 --> 02:26:36,540
curvature should drop it off
more than 100 feet. And this is

2477
02:26:36,540 --> 02:26:39,540
a mathematical problem that that
is being addressed. But no one

2478
02:26:39,540 --> 02:26:42,480
seems to be able to explain
exactly what's happening and why

2479
02:26:42,720 --> 02:26:48,150
the rules, as we've been told,
are not what we see.

2480
02:26:48,480 --> 02:26:51,840
Well, there's a lot of
anomalies, atmospheric anomalies

2481
02:26:51,840 --> 02:26:54,450
a way you can see the lighthouse
when you shouldn't be able to

2482
02:26:54,450 --> 02:26:58,140
see over the horizon. I mean,
this is like those lights you

2483
02:26:58,140 --> 02:27:02,760
saw on whatever the name of that
town, Marfa, Marfa, you know,

2484
02:27:02,760 --> 02:27:05,820
that's some current screwball
anomaly too. I mean, these

2485
02:27:05,820 --> 02:27:06,540
things happen.

2486
02:27:07,500 --> 02:27:10,710
But they consistently people are
trying to make the measurements

2487
02:27:10,710 --> 02:27:14,910
work as we're based on the
circumference of the earth. And

2488
02:27:14,940 --> 02:27:18,030
the drop that you should have in
the curvature of the earth and,

2489
02:27:18,090 --> 02:27:19,890
and the numbers just don't work
out.

2490
02:27:20,970 --> 02:27:22,530
Maybe the numbers are wrong.

2491
02:27:22,920 --> 02:27:25,530
So the suckers circumference of
the Earth numbers are wrong,

2492
02:27:25,650 --> 02:27:28,200
know, whatever numbers we're
dealing with these guys, these

2493
02:27:28,200 --> 02:27:30,540
numbers are all pigeonhole
numbers. I'm sure that plugging

2494
02:27:30,540 --> 02:27:33,060
these things and that could be
all bogus. Have you talked to an

2495
02:27:33,060 --> 02:27:37,710
actual GE all now who do you
want a god? Well, I'm bringing

2496
02:27:37,710 --> 02:27:39,930
it I'm gonna talk to you needed
to go to the university over

2497
02:27:39,930 --> 02:27:43,800
there and talk to some by Well,
I'm bringing up the moment

2498
02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:45,030
moment of insanity.

2499
02:27:45,060 --> 02:27:47,880
It's not insanity. I'm just
asking questions in second half

2500
02:27:47,880 --> 02:27:49,380
of show where belongs?

2501
02:27:49,440 --> 02:27:51,900
Yes, well, I realise is in the
right part of the show. There's

2502
02:27:51,900 --> 02:27:56,730
no doubt about that. But I'm
hoping for more space aliens and

2503
02:27:57,060 --> 02:28:03,180
flying saucer, chit chat, as
opposed to chit chat. I think

2504
02:28:03,180 --> 02:28:03,930
it's more interesting.

2505
02:28:03,960 --> 02:28:06,720
I think there's a lot of people
who are questioning a lot of

2506
02:28:06,720 --> 02:28:09,960
smart people who are questioning
this. And I think we have a lot

2507
02:28:09,960 --> 02:28:13,500
of smart people who can provide
us with more information.

2508
02:28:15,120 --> 02:28:18,660
Okay, okay. No, it's good. I'm
glad you're talking about this

2509
02:28:18,660 --> 02:28:23,250
again, you just it's, it's just,

2510
02:28:23,610 --> 02:28:27,090
look, it's just a simple
question. No, why did why do

2511
02:28:27,090 --> 02:28:30,150
none of the calculations of the
curvature of the earth work? Why

2512
02:28:30,150 --> 02:28:32,160
do they not work? Now? The
second part is,

2513
02:28:32,460 --> 02:28:35,640
have you ever seen the moon when
it comes up over the horizon?

2514
02:28:35,790 --> 02:28:38,130
I'm not going to play the game
with you because I don't have

2515
02:28:38,130 --> 02:28:41,010
the answer. I'm talking about
the curvature of the earth.

2516
02:28:41,340 --> 02:28:43,530
That's all I have a question
about. I'm just trying to get

2517
02:28:43,530 --> 02:28:46,380
some answers because I'd be the
first to scoff at people. But I

2518
02:28:46,380 --> 02:28:50,730
have some very serious
mathematical questions. Which

2519
02:28:50,730 --> 02:28:55,500
I'm not good at. And you're just
saying the numbers are screwy.

2520
02:28:55,500 --> 02:28:56,970
That's not much of an argument.
Well,

2521
02:28:56,970 --> 02:28:59,940
I don't know. I don't have an
argument I did that because I

2522
02:28:59,940 --> 02:29:03,090
think this is such a nonsense
topic.

2523
02:29:04,020 --> 02:29:08,280
Do you know that there is no
that there is no Lane just

2524
02:29:08,280 --> 02:29:12,060
single picture of the Earth from
space that these are all

2525
02:29:12,060 --> 02:29:15,990
composites that NASA's pictures
they admitted they admitted

2526
02:29:16,140 --> 02:29:18,360
they're all composites of the
earth there is not there does

2527
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:22,110
not exist a single picture like
the one you always see. It is a

2528
02:29:22,110 --> 02:29:27,090
composite made of many different
even from light data. This made

2529
02:29:27,090 --> 02:29:31,800
up it is not a true picture of
the Earth. NASA says we can't do

2530
02:29:31,800 --> 02:29:34,200
that we can't take the picture
would never look good. So we

2531
02:29:34,200 --> 02:29:35,490
make a composite which is there
a

2532
02:29:36,269 --> 02:29:37,379
wide angle lens it

2533
02:29:37,380 --> 02:29:40,770
would be very difficult a wide
angle lens from from from the

2534
02:29:40,770 --> 02:29:41,370
moon.

2535
02:29:42,570 --> 02:29:45,030
Well, the moon picture I don't
know what the deal is with that,

2536
02:29:45,030 --> 02:29:46,560
but it seems sketchy.

2537
02:29:48,210 --> 02:29:53,100
It's just little things like
that. All right.

2538
02:29:54,060 --> 02:29:56,970
Is that it? Well, I have a
suggestion.

2539
02:29:58,860 --> 02:30:15,420
Yeah, There are many. seconds

2540
02:30:16,050 --> 02:30:18,720
leaving now leaving, leaving.

2541
02:30:20,190 --> 02:30:22,170
You don't have an exiting. I
don't have

2542
02:30:22,170 --> 02:30:27,270
an exit. I'm sorry, you feel
that way? Hey, there's some crap

2543
02:30:27,270 --> 02:30:29,730
going down in Poland that I want
to talk about before it's too

2544
02:30:29,730 --> 02:30:33,000
late. Yeah. So first of all,
here's the first report Poland,

2545
02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:36,510
the Polish are getting a little
antsy about things and you can

2546
02:30:36,690 --> 02:30:41,730
understand kind of when your
best. Your best ally who wants

2547
02:30:41,730 --> 02:30:45,120
to put ICBMs and all kinds of
weapons in your country does not

2548
02:30:45,120 --> 02:30:47,760
allow you to be in the visa
waiver programmes or poles are

2549
02:30:47,760 --> 02:30:50,430
still not allowed. Yeah, they're
irked about this. They shouldn't

2550
02:30:50,430 --> 02:30:53,430
be irked about it. That's It's
an outrage. We'll put some

2551
02:30:53,550 --> 02:30:56,430
missiles in your backyard. But
you can't get a visa waiver.

2552
02:30:56,430 --> 02:31:00,030
You're not in the visa waiver
programme. But the polish in

2553
02:31:00,030 --> 02:31:03,120
general are little bit disturbed
about this new government which

2554
02:31:03,120 --> 02:31:03,690
we need to speak

2555
02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:06,570
for the second consecutive week
1000s of demonstrators have

2556
02:31:06,570 --> 02:31:09,480
taken to the streets of Poland
cities to protest against the

2557
02:31:09,480 --> 02:31:12,510
New Conservative government.
Since the Law and Justice Party

2558
02:31:12,510 --> 02:31:15,360
won the elections in October,
critics have accused the new

2559
02:31:15,360 --> 02:31:18,240
regime of trying to neuter the
Constitutional Court by

2560
02:31:18,240 --> 02:31:21,810
replacing judges, the attack on
the Constitutional Court could

2561
02:31:21,810 --> 02:31:24,150
lead to a situation where
there's no protection of

2562
02:31:24,150 --> 02:31:27,810
democracy, Poland will be in
danger of dictatorship by the

2563
02:31:27,810 --> 02:31:31,680
majority, which is the simplest
way to ordinary dictatorship.

2564
02:31:32,310 --> 02:31:34,740
The Law and Justice Party
controls the Houses of

2565
02:31:34,740 --> 02:31:37,680
Parliament and the presidency,
leaving the court as the only

2566
02:31:37,680 --> 02:31:41,160
effective check on its power. So
critics, demonstrations

2567
02:31:41,190 --> 02:31:43,650
organised by a group called the
committee for the defence of

2568
02:31:43,650 --> 02:31:46,080
democracy took place in 20.
Cities.

2569
02:31:46,110 --> 02:31:49,770
Okay, so that last bit was a
clue the committee for the

2570
02:31:49,770 --> 02:31:52,440
defence of democracies that
seems to be connected to a

2571
02:31:52,440 --> 02:31:56,640
rather large US non governmental
organisation, which is the

2572
02:31:56,640 --> 02:32:02,580
committee for what is it called
when I just say it was this

2573
02:32:03,690 --> 02:32:06,090
something about the four
democracies?

2574
02:32:06,540 --> 02:32:08,820
So again, then again, ending?

2575
02:32:09,060 --> 02:32:10,920
Sorry, hold on, what was that
called?

2576
02:32:13,500 --> 02:32:14,400
The coalition of

2577
02:32:14,850 --> 02:32:17,370
groups active check on its
power, say critics,

2578
02:32:17,670 --> 02:32:20,490
demonstrations, organised by a
group called the committee for

2579
02:32:20,490 --> 02:32:23,460
the defence of democracy took
place in 20. Cities,

2580
02:32:23,460 --> 02:32:27,480
yes, as the defence of
democracies, and I just came in

2581
02:32:27,480 --> 02:32:29,610
this morning, I didn't have
enough time to really go deep

2582
02:32:29,610 --> 02:32:33,180
into the NGO part. But usually,
when you have a government in a

2583
02:32:33,180 --> 02:32:36,060
country that we have a little
bit of issue with, when you get

2584
02:32:36,060 --> 02:32:40,560
people in line, then you know,
then NGOs start to act up and

2585
02:32:40,560 --> 02:32:43,140
they start to, then we get all
kinds of protests, what happens

2586
02:32:43,140 --> 02:32:45,150
to Egypt, what we do is what we
do,

2587
02:32:45,180 --> 02:32:47,100
that's why the Russian has
kicked NGOs out and

2588
02:32:47,100 --> 02:32:51,600
Exactly. wisely. Now the new
government consists of

2589
02:32:51,600 --> 02:32:55,980
Kaczynski, the end, this is a
I'm sure some some relation

2590
02:32:55,980 --> 02:32:59,640
somewhere to Ted. But these were
the brothers and the other

2591
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:03,960
brother, who was the President
of Poland, you'll recall, he and

2592
02:33:03,960 --> 02:33:07,740
an entire plane of Polish
government officials and elites

2593
02:33:08,100 --> 02:33:11,610
died in Russia. Yeah, they were
murdered by the Russian

2594
02:33:11,610 --> 02:33:12,060
government.

2595
02:33:12,090 --> 02:33:15,450
They were murdered by the
Russian government. Now, what is

2596
02:33:15,450 --> 02:33:19,950
but he knows this, so So now we
have the brother of the murdered

2597
02:33:19,950 --> 02:33:26,700
Kaczynski. And he's making a lot
of noise about the North Stream

2598
02:33:26,700 --> 02:33:31,950
to now as we know, Russia has a
very tight relationship with

2599
02:33:31,950 --> 02:33:36,720
Germany, they already have the
North Stream, a lot of gas flows

2600
02:33:36,750 --> 02:33:40,410
directly into Germany, they they
are able to pump some of that.

2601
02:33:40,920 --> 02:33:44,040
They reverse and they pump it
out to Europe, but this new one,

2602
02:33:44,370 --> 02:33:48,120
which is going to be a
completely bypasses, Poland, now

2603
02:33:48,120 --> 02:33:50,700
there's a pipeline that goes
right through Poland, right into

2604
02:33:50,700 --> 02:33:55,890
Germany, the Yamal pipeline, and
denotes Oh, well, that's okay.

2605
02:33:55,890 --> 02:33:58,680
But, you know, of course, when
the Russians see that US

2606
02:33:59,010 --> 02:34:01,710
interests are really racking up
in Poland, they're gonna go

2607
02:34:01,710 --> 02:34:04,530
around, so it goes around Poland
under the North Sea. That was

2608
02:34:04,530 --> 02:34:08,490
the gripe of the first
Kaczynski. And now he the the

2609
02:34:08,490 --> 02:34:12,030
new Kaczynski is bringing this
up in the EU parliament. And

2610
02:34:12,030 --> 02:34:14,370
he's making some very valid
points that we need to keep our

2611
02:34:14,370 --> 02:34:14,730
eye on.

2612
02:34:14,910 --> 02:34:20,550
The commission has assessed that
if not string to be constructed,

2613
02:34:20,940 --> 02:34:25,140
it will increase Europe's
dependence on one supplier and

2614
02:34:25,140 --> 02:34:30,480
concentrate 80% of rational gas
imports on one route, it would

2615
02:34:30,510 --> 02:34:35,640
also lead to dominant position
of Gazprom on the German market

2616
02:34:35,970 --> 02:34:42,360
by increasing its share to over
60% In my perspective, not

2617
02:34:42,360 --> 02:34:46,920
string. That's not healthy
diversification. Now, would it

2618
02:34:46,920 --> 02:34:50,850
reduce our energy dependency,
but it is, of course for the

2619
02:34:50,850 --> 02:34:55,350
commission to conclude its
technical and legal assessment

2620
02:34:55,380 --> 02:34:59,730
on whether or not it is in line
with our conclusions today.

2621
02:34:59,789 --> 02:35:05,789
The I'd think not. So keep your
eye on the cozying relationship

2622
02:35:05,789 --> 02:35:10,319
between Germany and Russia, and
how Poland is being kept at bay

2623
02:35:10,499 --> 02:35:15,239
being kept out of this. And from
an EU perspective, it's not a

2624
02:35:15,239 --> 02:35:19,199
nice thing that's being done.
There's a direct pipe through

2625
02:35:19,199 --> 02:35:22,349
Poland. But everything's gonna
be pumped through Germany now.

2626
02:35:24,569 --> 02:35:25,199
And

2627
02:35:26,520 --> 02:35:35,160
that's interesting. That makes
up for your flatter stuff. I

2628
02:35:35,160 --> 02:35:37,830
haven't caught this at all. And
I'm kind of annoyed by it.

2629
02:35:41,010 --> 02:35:43,980
I don't know what to say now. I
mean, it's like it makes up for

2630
02:35:43,980 --> 02:35:45,210
my flat Earth stuff. Yeah. I

2631
02:35:45,420 --> 02:35:48,390
don't pay any attention to the
man behind the curtain. And

2632
02:35:48,390 --> 02:35:53,820
behind the curtain right now.
Okay. You think that we're

2633
02:35:53,820 --> 02:35:55,320
behind the NGO? Yeah.

2634
02:35:55,500 --> 02:35:56,430
I think Russia

2635
02:35:57,690 --> 02:35:59,160
has Nuland visited.

2636
02:35:59,190 --> 02:36:01,350
That's what I have not, but I do
not think she has been there

2637
02:36:01,350 --> 02:36:06,390
recently. But you don't know. I
mean, you just don't know if

2638
02:36:06,390 --> 02:36:13,080
it's f the EU. Right. Then, if
the EU, except for Germany, the

2639
02:36:13,080 --> 02:36:15,540
German is the only the only
country that matters, really,

2640
02:36:16,050 --> 02:36:21,420
from a geopolitical standpoint.
So we'll see. We'll see.

2641
02:36:21,570 --> 02:36:24,870
Everyone's trying to stop it. So
you know, the, the turkey the

2642
02:36:24,870 --> 02:36:28,140
Turkish pipeline is now of
course, because of the downing

2643
02:36:28,170 --> 02:36:31,800
of the Russian jet. That's a bit
that's on hold the South Stream

2644
02:36:31,800 --> 02:36:34,260
through Hungary to buco has
completely gone, we've seen that

2645
02:36:34,260 --> 02:36:37,980
come and go in our lives in art
in the show's lifetime. And now

2646
02:36:37,980 --> 02:36:42,300
the North Stream, which people
have died over is now coming to

2647
02:36:42,300 --> 02:36:45,450
fruition. And it's cutting a lot
of people out Ukraine is of

2648
02:36:45,450 --> 02:36:48,270
course, obviously no longer
necessary. And it's going to be

2649
02:36:48,270 --> 02:36:53,430
a big pipe, which will give
Germany I think as maybe those

2650
02:36:53,430 --> 02:36:56,460
two USC actually who was talking
not Kaczynski thing was to USC.

2651
02:36:57,660 --> 02:37:02,910
Yeah, he's in the EU. You know,
it's going to give a

2652
02:37:02,910 --> 02:37:07,140
stranglehold, it'll be a Russian
German stranglehold on Europe's

2653
02:37:07,140 --> 02:37:13,740
gas supply. So why are we behind
it? Maybe. When something's

2654
02:37:13,740 --> 02:37:14,220
going on,

2655
02:37:14,340 --> 02:37:16,830
it's hard to follow some of this
stuff.

2656
02:37:17,850 --> 02:37:20,970
I know. It boggles the mind.

2657
02:37:21,539 --> 02:37:25,259
It's like what No. Who's Why is
it trying to turn into a

2658
02:37:25,259 --> 02:37:27,509
dictatorship in Poland monopoly?

2659
02:37:28,020 --> 02:37:32,130
owed in Poland? I don't know. I
think I think Poland is really

2660
02:37:32,130 --> 02:37:35,040
just anti us right now and with
some good reason.

2661
02:37:37,230 --> 02:37:38,940
And what's the point of that,

2662
02:37:39,359 --> 02:37:41,129
of being anti us no, of

2663
02:37:41,130 --> 02:37:44,310
being our US, not letting them
and allowing them to have visas?

2664
02:37:44,400 --> 02:37:47,880
The theory? Like we've discussed
this? Yeah, I know we have. But

2665
02:37:47,880 --> 02:37:48,360
it's like,

2666
02:37:48,420 --> 02:37:51,900
what did you want to hear the
reasoning again? Yes. Is that

2667
02:37:51,900 --> 02:37:56,070
the Jews in Congress don't like
the Polish Jews what they did in

2668
02:37:56,070 --> 02:37:59,370
the Second World War? Fuck them?
No visa for you?

2669
02:38:00,570 --> 02:38:03,390
Oh, that's right. You did this
before. I remember that. I

2670
02:38:03,390 --> 02:38:06,300
think there may be something to
that. There could be a

2671
02:38:06,960 --> 02:38:07,770
possibility there

2672
02:38:07,770 --> 02:38:12,390
is a I know that monks would
even when I was younger, I know

2673
02:38:12,390 --> 02:38:14,940
that the invite lived in Chicago
when I was a little kid, no,

2674
02:38:14,970 --> 02:38:18,690
this this, this element came up.
Because in Chicago during that

2675
02:38:18,690 --> 02:38:24,270
era, before it became the mix of
cultures it is today. There was

2676
02:38:24,270 --> 02:38:28,110
no US Hispanics, for example, it
was it was Jews, Polish and

2677
02:38:28,110 --> 02:38:33,240
blacks. It was three main ethnic
groups in Chicago. And they had

2678
02:38:33,240 --> 02:38:38,220
their little enclaves. And but
you'd run into you know, it

2679
02:38:38,220 --> 02:38:42,930
wasn't that the groups didn't
mix. And you run into this back

2680
02:38:42,930 --> 02:38:47,700
then. You heard this at the poll
polls during World War Two sold

2681
02:38:47,700 --> 02:38:51,810
the Jews out. And which is not
necessarily true. I don't think

2682
02:38:51,810 --> 02:38:55,590
it's necessarily true, either.
Yeah. And then there's been a

2683
02:38:55,590 --> 02:38:58,260
grudge ever since. And I think,
yeah, there's probably an

2684
02:38:58,260 --> 02:39:00,570
element to that. Which is
stupid.

2685
02:39:01,320 --> 02:39:04,830
Yeah. Well, it's not going to
get any better with the visa

2686
02:39:04,830 --> 02:39:07,890
waiver programme under attack.
And that will be my final for

2687
02:39:07,890 --> 02:39:14,670
today so we can get out on time.
We have let me see, oh, this is

2688
02:39:14,670 --> 02:39:19,020
okay. I got two and a kicker.
This will be good. Here we have

2689
02:39:19,380 --> 02:39:23,010
this a lot of talk they had was
a big calm conversation, big

2690
02:39:23,010 --> 02:39:26,070
discussion about the visa waiver
programme about changes that

2691
02:39:26,070 --> 02:39:29,130
need to be made. And then
Senator Grassley took the floor

2692
02:39:29,250 --> 02:39:33,810
and talked about something that
I guess I knew about, but of

2693
02:39:33,810 --> 02:39:36,750
course, I never really qualified
but he said some interesting

2694
02:39:36,750 --> 02:39:40,350
things about another programme
that we have ignored as an

2695
02:39:40,350 --> 02:39:41,250
entire country,

2696
02:39:41,580 --> 02:39:45,930
and omnibus Appropriation Bill
was filed to keep government

2697
02:39:45,990 --> 02:39:51,210
operating for the remainder of
this fiscal year. This fill

2698
02:39:51,270 --> 02:39:56,910
includes a straight and clean
extension of a programme called

2699
02:39:56,940 --> 02:40:02,580
the EB five immigration waiver.
The investor programme. This

2700
02:40:02,580 --> 02:40:08,400
programme has been plagued with
fraud and abuse. But more

2701
02:40:08,400 --> 02:40:13,590
importantly, it poses
significant national security

2702
02:40:13,590 --> 02:40:19,890
risk. Allegations suggesting the
EB five programme may be

2703
02:40:19,890 --> 02:40:26,490
facilitating terrorist travel,
economic espionage, money

2704
02:40:26,490 --> 02:40:33,510
laundering and investment fraud
are two serious warnings against

2705
02:40:33,510 --> 02:40:39,960
this bill to ignore yet they're
being ignored. The omnibus bill

2706
02:40:39,960 --> 02:40:46,740
then fails to include much
needed reforms. The spending

2707
02:40:46,740 --> 02:40:51,300
bill being considered by the
House and Senate, then, is a

2708
02:40:51,300 --> 02:40:55,980
major disappointment. I'm
frustrated that despite the

2709
02:40:55,980 --> 02:41:01,920
alarm bells, and whistle blower
warnings, warning us in Congress

2710
02:41:02,100 --> 02:41:06,150
about the EB five programme,
Republican and Democrat

2711
02:41:06,180 --> 02:41:11,220
leadership in the House and
Senate decided to simply extend

2712
02:41:11,220 --> 02:41:17,970
the programme. Without any
changes. This was a missed

2713
02:41:18,000 --> 02:41:20,880
opportunity to protect America.

2714
02:41:21,120 --> 02:41:25,680
I'm pretty well versed in
immigration do's and don'ts, the

2715
02:41:25,680 --> 02:41:28,050
certainly the don'ts in the
United States, I have not heard

2716
02:41:28,050 --> 02:41:32,460
of the EB five visa programme.
But you did some research I did

2717
02:41:32,460 --> 02:41:36,930
I have it right here. And this
enables you to enter the United

2718
02:41:36,930 --> 02:41:41,490
States under a visa which you
are an EB five visa, if you

2719
02:41:41,550 --> 02:41:45,960
adhere to the following, you
will start a business in the

2720
02:41:45,960 --> 02:41:50,580
United States in which you will
invest a minimum of $500,000 and

2721
02:41:50,580 --> 02:41:54,600
will create at least 10 jobs.
That is that's all the

2722
02:41:54,600 --> 02:41:58,020
requirements there are. And as
I'm reading through the

2723
02:41:58,020 --> 02:42:00,750
materials on this, and we I
think we even discussed this a

2724
02:42:00,750 --> 02:42:05,400
while back there was I think
there was like, like 40, Chinese

2725
02:42:05,400 --> 02:42:08,940
people showed up and they'd all
put $500,000 into building some

2726
02:42:08,940 --> 02:42:14,310
mall and there was like some,
like in East LA or, like some

2727
02:42:14,340 --> 02:42:19,020
corner, nothing was going on.
But this is this is a here's a

2728
02:42:19,020 --> 02:42:22,260
backdoor for you. All you need
is 500 grand, and then you say

2729
02:42:22,260 --> 02:42:25,080
you're going to create you don't
have to have the 10 the

2730
02:42:27,090 --> 02:42:30,240
employees created at that point,
but you have to promise that

2731
02:42:30,240 --> 02:42:32,940
maybe there's some follow
through and checkup. This is a

2732
02:42:32,940 --> 02:42:36,030
pretty gaping hole. That's not a
lot of money to come in as a

2733
02:42:36,030 --> 02:42:37,260
terrorist terrorist.

2734
02:42:38,190 --> 02:42:44,250
My My question is that why would
you bother dropping $500,000 You

2735
02:42:44,250 --> 02:42:47,130
just sneaking through the
Mexican border or you can come

2736
02:42:47,130 --> 02:42:49,530
in as a student or any of these
things that are cheaper,

2737
02:42:49,560 --> 02:42:52,770
sometimes sounds like a waste of
money. I the logic of this

2738
02:42:52,800 --> 02:42:57,570
eludes me the logic of getting
rid of having to spend that much

2739
02:42:57,570 --> 02:42:59,040
money to be a terrorist.

2740
02:43:00,150 --> 02:43:03,300
Well, well, there was a lot of
there was money laundering was

2741
02:43:03,300 --> 02:43:06,120
mentioned espionage was
mentioned a lot of things that

2742
02:43:06,120 --> 02:43:06,660
were mentioned that

2743
02:43:06,660 --> 02:43:09,480
all this stuff because he's a
he's a good like a paranoid

2744
02:43:09,480 --> 02:43:14,130
freak that guy Grassley? Yeah,
well, there's no no, I'm not.

2745
02:43:14,520 --> 02:43:18,540
No, I don't like the this thing.
It's like, if but there's

2746
02:43:18,540 --> 02:43:21,120
something else that we're doing
this you can buy a citizenship

2747
02:43:21,120 --> 02:43:23,160
for the United States or
something for some money.

2748
02:43:23,220 --> 02:43:26,370
Really? Yeah, something I was
hearing about it. I know you can

2749
02:43:26,370 --> 02:43:29,970
do it in Canada. Yeah, I think
you need a half a million or a

2750
02:43:30,000 --> 02:43:33,090
million or something so amount
of money to get a Canadian

2751
02:43:33,090 --> 02:43:36,420
citizenship. Well, it just seems
pretty.

2752
02:43:37,230 --> 02:43:41,790
In light of the recent visa
conversation we've been having,

2753
02:43:42,120 --> 02:43:45,960
and about the vetting of people
through social media, I you will

2754
02:43:45,960 --> 02:43:49,440
be very happy to hear this next
clip, which will be my final one

2755
02:43:49,440 --> 02:43:54,060
for the weekend. Because you are
right. And I know it feels

2756
02:43:54,060 --> 02:43:57,240
good. We don't know who said no.
But we've obtained exclusively

2757
02:43:57,240 --> 02:44:00,510
breaking here on Morning, Joe
for the first time, this 2011

2758
02:44:00,510 --> 02:44:04,800
memo from DHS customs basically
outlining what everyone has

2759
02:44:04,800 --> 02:44:08,430
lately been calling for the
review of social media,

2760
02:44:08,430 --> 02:44:13,260
Facebook, et cetera. For people
who are applicants for the says

2761
02:44:13,260 --> 02:44:14,400
basically, you see it up on the
screen.

2762
02:44:15,750 --> 02:44:18,180
In that memo focused on terror,

2763
02:44:18,480 --> 02:44:21,390
fraud, crime and national
security, Joe and explicitly

2764
02:44:21,390 --> 02:44:24,120
said national security is one of
the reasons that you'd want to

2765
02:44:24,120 --> 02:44:27,630
look at this at this time. We
have a source of former senior

2766
02:44:27,630 --> 02:44:32,610
DHS official who said not only
was this not done, but people in

2767
02:44:32,610 --> 02:44:35,880
the customs offices had
firewalls preventing them from

2768
02:44:35,880 --> 02:44:38,490
even getting on the site. So
this was an attempt to do this.

2769
02:44:38,640 --> 02:44:40,950
And this very memo that we've
now obtained, published for the

2770
02:44:40,950 --> 02:44:43,830
first time went through layers
of review went up the line a

2771
02:44:43,830 --> 02:44:47,100
year of reviews, it would
authorise this type of access,

2772
02:44:47,100 --> 02:44:49,350
it would try to create this
programme and it ultimately was

2773
02:44:49,350 --> 02:44:52,320
not adopted. I want to tell you
one more thing. Sorry really

2774
02:44:52,350 --> 02:44:52,710
short,

2775
02:44:52,740 --> 02:44:55,440
let me stop you there. But
you're telling us not only did

2776
02:44:55,440 --> 02:44:59,970
the administration say no to
this proposal, to review social

2777
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,600
media accounts for national
security purposes. But they

2778
02:45:03,600 --> 02:45:07,470
actually enacted firewalls to
prevent people from taking a

2779
02:45:07,470 --> 02:45:10,590
look at an applicant's social
media pages Facebook pages

2780
02:45:10,590 --> 02:45:11,310
Twitter account

2781
02:45:11,310 --> 02:45:13,590
well we have sources to say
those firewalls existed partly

2782
02:45:13,590 --> 02:45:22,500
to keep people from goofing off
on the job yeah, nails it. Apple

2783
02:45:22,500 --> 02:45:22,980
Thank you.

2784
02:45:25,530 --> 02:45:28,020
Oh, it was great that that we
have an official source back in

2785
02:45:28,020 --> 02:45:28,920
Yep. That's great.

2786
02:45:29,220 --> 02:45:31,680
It's great. That's a good that's
a good catch. You're listening

2787
02:45:31,680 --> 02:45:36,120
to Morning Joe along with them
view. Yeah, you know, I do. I

2788
02:45:36,120 --> 02:45:38,310
do. You ever shot yourself?

2789
02:45:38,340 --> 02:45:40,140
I do want to offset my flat
Earth

2790
02:45:40,380 --> 02:45:43,980
ballistic gun into Buddha thing
on the gun put the gun in his

2791
02:45:43,980 --> 02:45:44,460
safe.

2792
02:45:46,050 --> 02:45:48,330
You have so much faith in me is
it's just touching

2793
02:45:50,010 --> 02:45:54,750
the air listen to the talk.
Yeah. It's not as good. I agree.

2794
02:45:54,870 --> 02:45:56,490
And the real that's the one.

2795
02:45:57,750 --> 02:46:01,380
I don't think so. Cool. Yeah.
And I gotta watch that in the

2796
02:46:01,380 --> 02:46:04,080
real world tonight. We know what
you'll be watching.

2797
02:46:04,530 --> 02:46:09,180
Well, yeah, but probably then
tape it. Tape and watch it

2798
02:46:09,180 --> 02:46:09,990
later. Maybe.

2799
02:46:10,860 --> 02:46:13,290
The good thing is we'll at least
have a winner that we can

2800
02:46:13,290 --> 02:46:14,400
discuss. And it'll be

2801
02:46:15,600 --> 02:46:19,890
it'll be a right it'll be a geo
geo political political winner.

2802
02:46:21,600 --> 02:46:23,160
And Russia is now my target.

2803
02:46:25,050 --> 02:46:26,340
I'm still calling Spain.

2804
02:46:27,450 --> 02:46:30,060
Spain seems like a long shot. I
can't think of anything else

2805
02:46:30,060 --> 02:46:30,330
though.

2806
02:46:31,380 --> 02:46:34,740
Anyway, we will be back on
Thursday. Please remember us for

2807
02:46:34,740 --> 02:46:38,160
this Christmas at the
vortech.org/na coming to you

2808
02:46:38,160 --> 02:46:41,220
from the capital of the drone
Star State in downtown Austin,

2809
02:46:41,220 --> 02:46:42,540
Texas in the morning, everybody.

2810
02:46:43,140 --> 02:46:43,980
I'm Adam curry.

2811
02:46:44,039 --> 02:46:47,429
And I'm John C. Dvorak up here
in northern Silicon Valley,

2812
02:46:47,429 --> 02:46:49,619
where the mudflats are muddier
than ever we'll be

2813
02:46:49,619 --> 02:46:53,279
back on Thursday right here on
no agenda.

2814
02:46:56,010 --> 02:46:58,380
Yes, citizen you may return to
your harpsichord.

2815
02:47:01,230 --> 02:47:02,460
Look it up it's fine.

2816
02:47:02,520 --> 02:47:05,490
Len called in from Salt Lake
City, Utah. Glen. Good morning.

2817
02:47:08,070 --> 02:47:13,350
My question is since we're
spending all this money, where

2818
02:47:13,350 --> 02:47:18,390
are we getting the money from?
And the second question is if I

2819
02:47:18,390 --> 02:47:38,250
can shoot in your mouth to
government children is somebody

2820
02:47:38,250 --> 02:47:40,650
who can be an appletini to
government

2821
02:47:59,610 --> 02:48:01,560
you have to figure out what do
we do from here and you're

2822
02:48:01,560 --> 02:48:09,090
right. We've got to get some
jobs. Jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs,

2823
02:48:10,050 --> 02:48:23,790
jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs.
Jobs. Jobs. Josh and Josh.

2824
02:48:31,440 --> 02:48:52,020
We will be coming we must, we
must and we will be committed we

2825
02:48:52,020 --> 02:49:10,530
must we must and we will be
committed we must and we will be

2826
02:49:10,530 --> 02:49:52,110
committed. Day I don't know
about that must we must we must

2827
02:49:52,920 --> 02:50:17,880
we will be committed We got to
get to two hours we will not we

2828
02:50:17,880 --> 02:50:18,450
will not

2829
02:50:28,110 --> 02:50:33,630
fear is freedom, subjugation and
liberation. Contradiction is

2830
02:50:33,630 --> 02:50:39,060
true. Those are the facts of
this world. refer to them

2831
02:50:42,600 --> 02:50:45,540
and wash your hands after
touching any raw meat. Some

2832
02:50:45,540 --> 02:50:49,110
places you just sell. Now get

2833
02:50:49,110 --> 02:51:15,690
out there I'm Joe Biden. Thank
you for taking the time to

2834
02:51:15,690 --> 02:51:26,640
listen.org/n

2835
02:51:26,730 --> 02:51:27,180
a