Usually I'm just spinning. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday,
December 20 2015. Time once again if you get my nation media
assassination This is episode 783.
This is no agenda,
suffering from severe Hello mania and broadcasting live from
the capital of the drone star staveren FEMA ringtone six in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where the California Zephyr just
went by am John C. Dvorak. Hill.
Always happy when the Zephyr goes by. Yep. Hey, we have a new
human resource in the family. John.
You have mice?
No. Avoid zero and his partner Iris. They have a new human
resource. Steven, born on the morning of December 17.
Steven with a V or a pH. With no would have been
Stephen if it was pH obviously. Steven with a V. And the V.
Congratulations,
kid looks beautiful kid. Unbelievable. Looks like a C
section. Clayton. I have. I haven't
gotten the details yet. Code early. No, no. It's how we won't
be so healthy looking when it gets older.
I think his name is Steven Ben void zero. I'm not sure
Stephen pin. Ben. Ben. Ben. Ben. Oh, yeah. Steven pins pens. Not
a bad combination of names.
But that's not his name. We're very happy for him.
Yes, well, you might well explain to the audience
listening in what who?
Yeah, we have our incredible staff and management here at the
best podcasting universe consists of Eric the shill. Who
does the preparation of the spreadsheet and the donations
and the nice things and the rings etc. And then we have void
zero. Who runs the entire network? The the CDN, the
streams that everything?
Yeah, we don't have like a, like a producer. We have a guy who
does does this does the big heavy lifting. Very few. I don't
know of any other podcasts that have that. They have what? A
heavy lifter?
No, most of them. No, I don't know. I think most of them go
through some kind of, you know, hosting service.
They go through pod bean or they use other thing pod. Pod track.
No pod drag is a is not a service. Oh, they
don't? They don't host as well. I don't think so. Okay. It
matters not my friend.
And no, it doesn't matter. Well, I mean, it does to us, but to
most people. Nobody cares. As long as we get our stuff out.
Yeah. So
I was yes, yes. Yes. The debate?
Well, I was surprised to see that ABC did not pay the extra
fee to request the overnight ratings. i That doesn't happen
very often. That you had to do it that you have an event. And
then you don't ask for the overnights but they think that
Malcolm and Republicans are all on cable. All the debates have
been on cable. I don't know. Why did the Democrats getting
network TV? I don't know. But they put it on the worst time in
the world.
Well, it still gave them approximately we think about 8
million viewers. Not bad for Saturday night on. On the
network kind of hidden away.
Well, yeah, they don't nobody watches TV on Saturday night.
Used to be an addition except
he's in 60s. Except for y'all. Yeah. Remember? No, it was
Friday nights in our house. Growing up Friday nights, Friday
nights, we all stay home. We watch TV together as a family.
Now that workout.
It worked out just fine. Really,
really?
Well. Let's start off with I got a clip that we might as well
start off with UK, which is there was a you know, there was
a pre promotion for the debates, which was kind of a data breach?
No, yeah, this was just in time for a little bit of ratings or
whatever the heck they were trying to accomplish with that.
And besonders pointed out something when he discussed
this, he said that this has happened before, but no one ever
made all this right, you know, made a big stink about it. And
he sent out press releases. But But Sanders of course didn't
really notice that yet. Nobody gets because you didn't have a
debate the next day. Right? So you wouldn't need to do that
because this was all publicity for the for the debates. But
let's play. Sanders has a very interesting explanation. None of
this was brought out in any of the news stories that I read
about it. I don't know what he did kind of discuss it in great
detail. This will be one clip with this big
burning in the breach. Bernie in the breach, Bernie in the breach
the breach did did did
it do the Clinton campaign called this a very egregious
breach of data and ethics and said quote load, our data was
stolen. Did they overstate this? Or were your staffers
essentially stealing part of the Clinton playbook?
David, let me give you a little bit of background here. The DNC
has hired vendors. On two occasions, there were breaches
in information two months ago, our staff found information on
our computers from the Clinton campaign. And what I was
Stanford said, Whoa, what's going on here? They owe it to
the DNC quietly, went to the vendor and said, Hey,
can you just see I'm saying that Oh, is going on here. But
there's gambling going on here.
Something goes wrong. And that was quietly dealt with none of
that information was looked at. Our staff at that point did
exactly the right thing. A few days ago, similar incident
happened, there was a breach, because the DNC vendor screwed
up. Information came Oh,
hold on a second. Hold on. This is the one time where glitch
would have been more appropriate as
a word as opposed to screwed up.
Well, breach breach means that, you know, it's not like the the
data was pushing against the levy and it breached. No, it's a
breach because someone broke into something. I'm just
pointing out the words he's using,
but he's implying that this is that it wasn't anything anyone
did overtly it just the data showed up on their side. I'm
when I'm listening to this. I'm listening to from the
perspective that somebody somewhere on either side of the
campaign, yes. On Bernie side or Clinton side, which is more
likely, or is playing a dirty trick.
I believe there is a connection between the vendor and either
Hillary or the Hillary campaign. There's some kind of friendly
connection that I Oh, yes. He was he strew stew Trev Villa
Leon, the CEO worked for the 1992 Clinton Gore war room
campaign. Hello, setup. Setup. Yeah, this is a set of thinking
stinky setup, dirty trick and stinky, stinky, stinky setup.
And what's her name that the dipshit head of the DNC
Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
The hair with a with a phoney Baloney, Jheri curls?
No, that's that's jus here. She's
in on it. Yeah, of course. Of course. That's why the ABC news
cameras focused on her during most of this conversation when
you
have Bernie using the word breach. He I think he's kind of
letting it slip that, you know, hold on a second, something went
on unless his words don't matter the way he speaks.
Well, he's burning
things ago, similar incident happened, there was a breach,
right? Because the DNC vendor screwed up information came to
our campaign in this case, I will stay up did the wrong
thing. They looked at that information. As soon as we
learned that they looked at that information. We fired that
person. We are now doing an independent internal
investigation to see who else was involved. Thirdly, what I
have a real problem with and as you mentioned, this is a
problem. I recognise it as a problem of what the DNC did
arbitrarily, without discussing it with us is shut off our
access to our own information, crippling our campaign. That is
an egregious act. I'm glad that late last night that was
resolved. Fourthly, it
looks it doesn't go first, second, third, fourth Lee. It
gives me last night on first it says secondly, thirdly, and then
fourthly, do you when you get to nine? Is it nicely? That
late last night that was resolved? Fourthly, I look
forward to working with Secretary Clinton for an
investigation and independent investigation about all of the
breaches that have occurred from day one in this campaign?
Because I am not convinced hold
on all of the breaches from day one day one. Mm hmm. And why is
he shouting? Why am I shouting?
Does that have occurred from day one in this campaign? Because I
am not convinced that information from our campaign
may not have ended up in her campaign don't know that. We
need an independent investigation. And I hope
Secretary Clinton will agree with me for the need of that
last point. When we saw the breach two months ago, we didn't
run into the media and make a big deal about it. And it
bothers me very much that rather than working on this issue to
resolve it, it has become many press releases from the Clinton
campaign later.
But Senator you do mentioned the DNC the vendor, but you said of
your staff that they did wrong. Absolutely. The Secretary
Clinton deserve an apology tonight. Yes,
I apologise. That was funny.
Notice he didn't apologise and he was kind of forced into it.
Just instantly. Not only do I apologise the Secretary Clinton
and I hope we can work together on an independent investigation
from day one, I want to apologise to my supporters. This
is not the type of campaign that we run
Yeah, yeah, there's
there's a lot of info in that, that he's given away. And I
think the the fact that the CEO of NGP van, I guess is the name
of the vendor that he's a Clinton Insider. Having worked
in the in the Clinton Gore war room campaign, come on, why did
why did they even accept I guess it's DNC, I guess they have to
accept it.
The DNC does what? No, the DNC, which Shultz and Clinton got
together and Clinton said, you know, here's a good guy that can
do this job. Why don't we just give it to him to gig? And you
know, and you help the campaign? Well, he's that well, he's
there. Because yeah, great. I got a Sanders is a pain in the
ass.
I got a note from one of our one of our producers who I think
works for the Republican campaign in where is it? What's
the four to five area code?
Four to five? Well, let's find
out once you sure. Anyway, apparently there was a big
conversation going on in? Well, maybe this is let me see.
Washington.
Washington State. Okay. Make sense.
In Washington State, the Democrats have opted to ignore
the results of the primary and select their delegates solely
through the caucus process. They have a primary. I'm just reading
what was sent to me. I don't know.
I mean, if you're going to do the caucus, you don't have a
primary. You just do the caucus. Otherwise,
they'll they'll have a problem. No, no have opted to ignore the
results of the primary
who had this. In other words, they're just wasting the
taxpayers money.
This is one of your pet peeves. Yes. So they're going to they're
going to go through the caucus process. That's according to the
Republicans and the Democrats, Democrats. But it's a Republican
who's telling me this is probably true. Because they're
so trustworthy. You see,
well, they had up in Port Angeles is a big scandal, going
to be part of Mimi's putting together a slate to get rid of
the City Council on what's the scandal. The scandal is that the
public voted to get rid of fluoride because it's going to
be renewed. And they said the city council got the vote and
said we're gonna keep it some corruption. Figure out
as like an Austin, they was I think it was Friday night. They
they voted in the legislation for you know, to require Uber to
pay livery fees to have background check. It may be uber
may not have the app menu, in my mind even work at this point.
Same thing, all kinds of agendas going on Austin, that high tech,
city of the future, everybody
in a dump Uber. No, no Uber for you know, Uber for you.
As I was watching, I was watching schemes. A couple of
the comments about the Democratic debate on ABC last
night from a television production standpoint. No
national anthem. Birth do the Democrats hate the national hate
America? They they hate America. You know, the Republican debates
always have some, you know,
you know, my feelings on this.
Yeah, it's ridiculous. I know. I know. But still, so
I think that's great. I mean, why should they why are they
wasting airtime? We see the net we're gonna hear the national
anthem. Like during this because football, you know, is now all
playoff games. So there's just wall to wall football. Every
game they have to play the national anthem. I mean, I don't
see it. Personally, I just say it again. I've said it before. I
know it's boring. I don't see a basketball game or a football
game or a baseball game for that matter. Being an element of the
US military or even the government. It is a game
somebody's playing now. So why are we playing the national
anthem in front of
it? And I'm okay.
I'm okay. Got it. Let's play the national anthem before everyone
everybody's late night talk shows. You know I've here's
Jimmy Kimmel, but first here's the national anthem.
It's it's a political thing and you just expected if you know I
don't know. I don't really Oh, hold on. Hold on information
man. New shit has come to Stephen was not delivered via C
section. What said the new human resource. I just got new
information.
Oh, that's good. He was pushed. It's better not to be delivered
by C section. And he
looks good. This kid
should look good. Anyway, so I did not expect it. I didn't know
until you just mentioned it that didn't play the national anthem.
Because who? Who's the I find it awkward.
I'm just talking from a television producer standpoint
that I would have had the fight with you in the in the in the
pre production meeting. I think we should have done the national
anthem. Yeah, you would have fought with him. I would have
fought
lectured you like continued until you've given up a second?
Second?
Hillary's outfit. It was like a, like a burlap sack.
It was dreadful. And then they checked that back shot.
The fact that it
was not good now, and her hair, she hair look good while she was
she was a helmet once again. And she's frosted it. So she had the
frost thing going on, which I don't know, I think I don't
think that's a good look for her. I think that she needs to
still be a little more platinum ish and not being you know, this
kind of grey was great.
Now that we're in this meeting, yes, I agree with you. And I
also think that they did not have the two shots that they did
on this thing where I thought lame, and it wasn't flattering
to Hillary to have her staring at Bernie, with that kind of,
you know schoolmarm, look
well, also, who was the guy's name? The ABC? Yeah, who is? No
not by me the interviewers you had, oh, there's
more than Murer.
So David Muir needs to go home. He had zero control over Hillary
Clinton. And it was embarrassing and in the face of the grimaces
he was making, but no, no, no, you must stop. But she just
doesn't give a crap. Just steamrolled right through him.
Oh, yeah. Which I'm sure is exactly how she does policy
meetings. Just shut up. I'm talking.
I here's what I don't get
it was she actually from a televisions production
standpoint, but also, she was rude. She was rude. She was
rude. And but it we couldn't call which shot to take, you
know, and the audio guys were freaking out. Because really,
what it results in is you don't understand what anyone's saying.
And then I've never had this happen in a live show like this.
And I was very disappointed that
tonight. As you can see, we have a packed audience here in New
Hampshire. And we're gonna continue we've already had a
spirited conversation.
This right here with there was already something very wrong.
I've been to many live broadcasts. Back in the day when
they were in New York, I would go to the Grammys when MTV still
had, you know, so like me. And I go to the Grammys, and then as
we're in the commercial break, everyone because it's a big
industry thing, which I'm sure of these debates are has a lot
of industry people. And at the countdown to the end of the
break, it's like you must everybody, you must want
actually to do it more like we have 30 seconds left. 30
seconds. Please everyone be seated, please be seated. And
they have ushers going through the aisles. Quickly, quickly,
quick. Sit down. So now south, south, south south should sit
down. So now it's nothing. They came back and everyone's still
hanging, drinking martinis. It looked like crap. And then to
add insult to injury here
at the top of the broadcast, about ISIS about the concerns of
terror here on the homefront. And as we await Secretary
Clinton backstage here, we're going to begin on the economy.
Okay,
so of course, he wasn't backstage, but what he's saying
is Secretary Clinton is backstage and she's not coming
out.
I want to turn to the Americans. I
found that awkward. Well, hold on, listen to the whole thing,
wages
and raises in this country. And we believe Secretary Clinton
will be coming around the corner any minute, but in the meantime,
we want to start with this eye opening number and Senator
Sanders, this question goes to you first and
they actually started the next question before Hillary was back
on stage.
In 1995. The median American household income was $52,600 in
today's money this year, it's 53 pounds in six months. That's 20
more years on the job with just a 2% Raise, in a similar
timeframe racist for CEOs up more than
she didn't quit. Sorry, Shari. All right, the epitome of
rudeness. What was she doing? What did she have to do that she
couldn't come back? And more importantly, why did production
allow it to start? Why didn't David Muir who has been
belittled by this woman the whole time say excuse me, Let's
all call for Hillary Hillary whatever just some don't just
start the debate up again very unprofessional
on when I saw it, there's two things I noticed with production
was one is that the when they went to when they came back from
what or they did one of those interstitial
yeah and Anderson and someone else talking.
I'm talking about the the things that the network's do nowadays
to make it look like they're not running for already commercials
in a row. They do 20 commercials and they come in says, and here
we are at the Democratic base. We'll be right back after this.
Right. Right. And then they go right back to commercials. They
did something like that. And the stage was the empty everybody
was thought Yes, yes, yes. Now I don't remember the Republicans
but of course you couldn't do with all these people but the
Republicans stayed there ground they stood their ground, they
stayed at the, at the podiums, these three guys, they three of
them, they all left and they came back and then Hillary
didn't show up. And then she comes wandering into a round of
applause. He's making a grandstand then she says sorry,
which in a very wimpy way. What what did it have you read
anything this morning about the explanation for this? What was
she up to what
what she used last time because she was not really late on the
previous debate, which is Oh, I'm sorry, you know, takes me a
little bit longer to go to the restroom. She'd already used
that one. I think she's backstage and she's getting
advice. You know, they're telling her what to do.
I think there's definitely she is very prone to this. She needs
lots of advice, which I find distressing. I think it'd be
funny if you if she actually went to the control room and
started complaining to the director. No, I don't think
that's what she did. But I think that's funnier.
I want but I wonder I wonder what there's no reporting
someone must know.
Yeah, I'm sure she has six staffers all talking to react
should do this. Make sure you don't do that. Do this. Do that
turn left turn right. You know don't smile more.
It is also a total it's a jack move is what it is. Is that Jack
move. Jack move. was like a power move. That's a douchebag
move Jack move.
I never heard this phrase. Yeah, I'm learning it. What do you
mean you're learning it? It's
still millennial phrase. I'm learning these things.
The millennials say Jack moves
Jack move. Yeah, Jack move is a jack move.
I gotta write this one down. It asked the millennials
the millennial.
Okay, all right. Good.
Jack move. So that was it was a complete Jack move and then
everything is just I don't know.
I find it distressing when she did that. And it's almost as
though she that she's so it was beside its insulted everybody
and actually insulted the entire idea of a of a Democrat debate.
And then she comes back on Shari, which and she said it in
exactly the right demeanour. exactly the right cuteness in
there, which really, it's the the Hillary lovers just loved
her that much. Ha
She's so cool. Oh, hello, Ray.
Yeah, yeah. So they asked Hillary about, you know, her
connection to big corporations. She's got some bullshit story,
by the way. They have a lot. There was a lot of bullshit in
this thing from both sides, play this play, play that. I have a
clip here called two lies. I want you to identify the two
lies, short clip.
Okay, two lies. Here we go.
We now know that this couple had assembled an arsenal. They were
not on law enforcement radar. They were completely undetected,
or they
were on law enforcement radar,
and they weren't completely undetected, but it was in 2012.
Yes. So as we approach another holiday with the President,
again, saying late this week, no credible threat. Secretary
Clinton, how confident should the American people be that
there aren't others like that couple right now in the US going
undetected? And what would you do as President to find them?
Well, first, the most important job of being President,
obviously, to keep our country safe and to keep the families of
America safe.
Dry drives me up the wall.
Oh, I take it back. I take myself back earlier. The
California Zephyr just went by that was that there was another
train. This one. I want to stop this show. Oh, this one had two
private cars attached at the end. And one of them was like an
observation car from like the 1920s or something this gorgeous
observation car. Yeah. No, I put it Yeah, no, I put that payment.
I put that into the clips to piss me off.
Yeah, love. Let's
listen to it. Again. Others like that couple right now in the US
going undetected? And what would you do as President to find
them?
Well, first, the most important job of being President is
obviously to keep our country safe and to keep the families of
America safe now.
So the President when he was at the Pentagon said something
similar, but I want to I want to show the there's a very subtle
distinction. The the foremost job of the president for those
who of you who are new what what the oath is of the President,
the office of the president United States is to protect and
uphold the Constitution. It says nothing about the first you
know, first order of business is to keep the American people say,
now here's the president and he has put a twist on it, which
leads me to believe I have to give him a pass. because he may
have been listening
as president and commander in chief, ah, my highest priority
is the security of the American people.
I think if you add commander in chief to it, then then you're
okay.
Well, you're giving him the benefit of the doubt on that one
time pretty.
I think you're, I think your original stance, which I enjoy,
because it's exactly the same. is still correct.
If there was a PBS newshour did a there wasn't a video piece but
on their, on their blog, they did a piece, which titled Why
what everyone's getting wrong about the President's number one
job and they explained the whole thing specifically, that the
number one job is to protect and uphold the Constitution. So
there are people thinking about it. It's in the mainstream
media, but still, no one seems to care about the actual oath.
And I don't even think they're protecting the Constitution with
all their attacks on the Second Amendment.
Well, no, well, it's not just that they have to uphold the
Constitution uphold. Yeah. And they're not attacking the Second
Amendment. They should that's that's what I'm advocating for.
Attack the Second Amendment. Don't attack feeble minded
people, people who have medical issues, mental issues, you know,
because here's, that's the slope. You don't want to go
down.
Here's the well, that's where they're going. Here's one I
thought was interesting. I didn't know this. Apparently,
this is the movies Trump for ISIS clip. Apparently, the ISIS
is using Trump. They're making movies. Yeah, using him to
recruit
Yes, together. You are not our adversary. You are our partner.
And we also need to make sure that the really discriminatory
messages that Trump is sending around the world, don't fall
unreceptive ears he is becoming ISIS is best recruiter, they are
going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam
and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadist. So I want
to explain why this is not in America's interest to react with
this kind of fear and respond to this sort of bigotry. Secretary,
thank you.
Now, just while I'm on that, just for a second move to the
next clip, which is O'Malley who decides he's going to why are
they given Trump so much extra publicity but here's O'Malley's
bullcrap story are spent
to figure these things out true to our American principles and
values. And oh my friend, cuz she who was a doctor in
Maryland, back to the this issue of our dangerous a democracy of
turning against ourselves. He was putting his 10 and 12 year
old boys to bed the other night, and he is a proud American
Muslim. And one of his little boys said to him, Dad, what
happens if Donald Trump wins, and we have to move out of our
home? These are very, very real issues.
Did he make that pledge? Like if Trump becomes president? I'm
leaving the country.
Did you hear by the way, he had the worst?
Yeah. No, don't get me started because you know, then just
gonna go. Hey, news flash from ABC. Hillary Clinton campaign
doubles down after experts question claim about ISIS videos
using Donald Trump. Right. Okay. Are you playing? I'm playing the
clip, but it doesn't seem to have a voiceover what is the No,
no one was available. What's available?
On standby Hillary
Clinton's communications director defended her candidates
claimed that ISIS is using videos of Donald Trump to
recruit members, but could not point to specific events of this
happening in an interview on This Week with George
Stephanopoulos today. Of course, Jen Palmieri said Clinton wasn't
referring to a specific video on Saturday's debate when she said
Trump's anti Muslim her rhetoric is making him ISIS, his best
recruiter and that quote, they're going to people showing
videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to
recruit more radical jihadist Clinton offered no specific
evidence of the claim. Quote, she's not referring to a
specific video, but he's being used in social media by ISIS as
propaganda. Oh, that's not the same thing.
Well, I got another clip. No, it's not the same. She's a liar.
Yeah, she knew let's get this clip.
I'm sure Rita Katz is getting the call right now. Yes, yes, of
course. Of course. Make one we're gonna make one no problem.
Yeah. Do you want to be heading into it as well?
Really, cats of course, you should get a little background
on her.
Rita cats. The Iraqi Jew who started the SITE Intelligence
Group as a bone to pick is not the have biases partisan. And
every single one of these great videos that appear are found by
her group first. Yes, they and of course, they always refer to
jihadist websites and dark web and links and Twitter accounts
which are never ever, ever published.
So when we say the word Rita Katz, that's what we mean. It's
a trigger. It's a trigger word. Now, now I got I got it just a
trigger word in here in this clip, I want you to identify it,
see if you can identify the trigger word. And I was actually
surprised that Hillary was so soft on encryption. But this is
Hillary discussing the issue of making apple in particular turn
over there. Yes. Yeah, turn over their encryption. But listen,
sorry, sorry, identify the trigger word
gather. But Apple CEO Tim Cook said, removing encryption tools
from our products all together, would only hurt law abiding
citizens who rely on us to protect their data. So would you
force him to give law enforcement a key to encrypted
technology by making it law?
I would not want to go to that point. I would hope that given
the extraordinary capacities that the tech community has, and
the legitimate needs and questions from law enforcement,
that there could be a Manhattan like project, bringing the
government and the tech communities together to see
they're not as
I kind of missed that one of Manhattan like project like the
nuclear bomb? Yeah.
Yeah, that's what she said. But back it up. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm
gonna, because that's not the that's that's the mean. But it's
not the trigger words, I'm hoping you identify of
all started over and list those together. But Apple CEO Tim Cook
said, removing encryption tools from our products all together,
would only hurt law abiding citizens who rely on us to
protect their data. So would you force him to give law
enforcement a key to encrypted technology by making it law?
I would not want to go to that point. I would hope that given
the extraordinary capacities that the tech community has, and
the legitimate needs and questions from law enforcement,
you mean, the extremely the great capacity, the tech thing
guys have? No, it's not a trigger,
that there could be a Manhattan like project, something that
would bring the government and the tech communities together to
see they're not adversaries, they've got to be partners, that
doesn't do anybody any good. If terrorists can move toward
encrypted communication, that no law enforcement agency can break
into before or after, there must be some way I don't know enough
about the technology, Martha to be able to say what it is. But I
have a lot of confidence in our tech experts. Door is the wrong
door. And I understand what Apple and others are saying
about that.
The tech experts Yeah. Which we which usually calls the techno
experts.
Yeah, she's changed the tech experts. I
think we have in our techno experts. Yeah. Okay, good. I'll
play that. And
techno expert to me is a DJ. That's what we have. We got to
check the metal tonight. Check, no expert.
But what has happened now is we've, you know, we had Comey
and we had Johnson and what's kind of certainly call me is
doing a reasonable job of it, at least for his own layman terms
explaining why backdoors make no sense. It doesn't. It's
Meaningless, meaningless, unless you have the data at rest and
the data in transit problems. So the data in transit problem,
that's pretty much solved. We're going to talk about that later
in our tech news segment. But the data and I'll actually I
think the data as stored, unless if it's stored in the cloud and
not worried about it. They just want to just get as much as they
can I get
that blackmail. Yeah, it's good stuff in there. You're gonna get
stock tips. Holy crap. I just had it. You know, what did
mergers and m&a? Yeah, you'd be all over it. You could win big.
Yeah. It's a fantastic deal. insider trading all the way even
though it's not really technically it's not insider
trading?
No, not for people who are willing even if you think
about it as what would insider, I think technically means that
you have access to it. Well, actually, it isn't sorted to get
early access this information, nobody else can
trade on it, or if you want information on but that's
exactly what
you're looking for. So let's just get a couple of these more.
I got. I learned something. I didn't realise what the latest
thing they're going to do to try to screw up the second amendment
to get gun gun. stuff under gun stuff. Go
and stuff Well done, sir. Well played gun stuff.
Good stuff is this I think about this as being a strategy. But
it's so obviously a strategy. And this has got to have all the
gun guys really shaken immediately if you noticed, most
of you probably didn't even notice what she's talking about.
But she played the gun immunity clip and you'll figure it out,
I have voted not to give gun makers and sellers immunity. And
I also know that, and I'm glad to see this, Senator Sanders has
really moved in face of the facts about what we're
confronting in our country. I know that he has said in the two
previous debates that he wants to take on this immunity issue,
because we need to send a strong message to the gun
manufacturers, to the sellers, to the gun lobby. And I would
hope, Senator Sanders, that you would join the Democrats who are
trying to close the Charleston loophole that you would sponsor
or co sponsor legislation to remove the absolute immunity, we
need to move on this consensus that exists in the country, it's
no longer enough just to say the vast majority of Americans want
common sense gun safety measures, including gun owners,
but we need and only the three of us will do this. Nobody on
the Republican side will even admit there's a problem. And in
whatever way the three of us can. We need to move this agenda
forward and began to deal with the gun lobby. That they
present.
Yeah, that's, that's, that's what they're, I've seen this
everywhere. Now. This seems to be kind of the old bots go to is
a new thing. Yeah. If if we make gun manufacturers liable for
death,
it's, it's which this is not a new idea. But it's a genius idea
to kind of promote because they slip it in that because it
already the public's accepted the vaccine manufacturers
immunity? Yes. And I think we're getting a little annoyed by it.
But the I this was like mostly determined by the courts in the
first place, which is you if somebody buys a gun and then
uses committed crime, how's it the gun manufacturers problem?
Why do they get sued?
Well, their acquaintance what they want to do, I'll tell you,
they're equating it to tobacco companies, and that they can be
sued under certain in certain situations, which has been very
successful for some people.
Yeah, I can see this the only real analogue of the of this
smoking argument is if you buy a gun, and you accidentally shoot
yourself, and you shoot yesterday, right, you shoot
yourself, well, why haven't there altered? And everybody who
has a gun shoots themselves?
Haven't? Haven't there also been secondhand smoke?
I don't know. Those have gotten very harsh or either.
Don't try anything. That's okay. I'm just sad. I mean, what just
go for it. Just look when you see the poll, actually, I have.
Where was this? Yeah, here it is. This is the view. The view
was freaking out about the most recent poll, although they're
not. It's my beat, by the way. The view?
Yes. Very good.
So what I understand you wear
your underwear and eat popcorn while you're watching the view?
No. Do you have a like a costume or a uniform, you wear something
that you routinely put on? I usually
usually I'm just spinning in front of not on the bike, but
I'm spinning on my hoverboard in front of the TV, just riding
around, you know. And then when I hear something, I'll stop stop
so that we get to record this. So I think it was on the
previous episode of this podcast, where we had the
results in New York, New York of all places, where now I think it
was 52% of Americans polled feel that there should be no ban on
assault weapons because they're afraid of the government's
inability to protect them. So that's not just more than ever,
it is a majority, according to the poll. So here's the views
take on violence
has been making headlines on an almost daily basis this year. So
tell me if this new poll surprises y'all. Right now more
Americans are against a ban on assault weapons than have been
against it in the last 20 years. And here's the thing let's be
thoughtful about this. What is the government supposed to
protect you from Sandy Hook didn't come from another country
that came right out of
here in Connecticut Connecticut came out Have you
listened to joy Beyonce? She's in the back like you know caught
like in the church and the black church in Connecticut. Kid
what's it called? Golden was calling response right in
Connecticut. North Dakota, North Dakota. I'm sorry Colorado.
Please so many, many vape bombs
came from big vein the guns weapon white people here so what
are we what is the government supposed to do? Because it seems
to me you know, you want to ban people you want to ban people
from comment? You want to build a wall How about an assault
weapon wall? Build a wall mount?
Oh, yeah, let's build a wall about that.
She's nuts.
Well, yes, unfortunately,
it's assault weapon wall. Yes. Do that
that's a great idea.
That's just her attempt to being cynical or sarcastic.
Exactly, exactly.
Well, it didn't work. No. All right, onward. I got a couple
more. I got the packet lice clip, if you want to play that.
Clinton PAC allies. Yeah.
Secretary Clinton, you too have ruled out a large US combat
force, yet you support sending in Special Operations Forces to
Syria, and sending those 100 to 200 troops to Iraq to do
exploitation kill raids. We've already lost one Delta Force
member in a raid. It's looked very much to me, like we're
already in ground combat on frequent trips I've made there.
So are you fooling Americans, when you say we're not putting
American combat troops back into Syria or Iraq?
No, not at all.
That's pretty blatant. I love it.
No. Question of something. Like I talked about my car.
Well, now I believe that, you know, we may be saying combat
Special Forces, but it's possible that these are
mercenaries, this is Academy or some hired guys. And that way
you can kind of skirt around Delta Force guys to Delta Force.
Yes.
What we're facing with ISIS is especially complicated. It was a
different situation in Afghanistan. We were attacked
from Afghanistan.
What happened? What happened to Pakistan? What happened to Saudi
Arabia? What happened to Iraq, which was
to Hamburg Germany?
Yeah, that's a very good question.
In Afghanistan. We went after those who had attacked us.
What's happening in Syria and Iraq, is that because of the
failures in the region, including the failure of the
prior government in Baghdad, led by Malik,
I want plenty more of that clip. It's just She's full of crap.
But what to me was interesting is it seemed like for whatever
reason, ABC also felt it was important to continuously focus
on the homeland and security and Syria. And it was pretty much
the same as as the Republican debate. But the discourse, of
course, afterwards is, you know, they're not warmongers? No, not
at all. They're so much better than everybody
else. I don't see how they're not worse. But yeah, I do have
to say there was one I thought, funny moment, and it was Bernie
Sanders. After Clinton had gone into a series of questions about
what about your corporate corporate actions? And all the
rest of it? Oh, well, I've only got 3% of my money. But you
know, we all work together. And so they asked the exact same
question to Bernie who just went off on them.
Thank you, Senator Sanders. I want to stay on this and ask you
how big of a role does corporate America play in a healthy
economy? And will corporate America love a President
Sanders? No, I think they won't. Good line.
It was the line of the show. That was good luck.
CEOs of large multinationals made like Hillary Danka like me,
and Wall Street is gonna like be even less.
And the reason for that
is, these are these idiots cheering their 401 k's are going
to tank when Bernie Sanders is cheering. I mean, seriously
by Betty Boop, Adi
ain't gonna like me, and Wall Street is gonna like me even
less.
And the reason for that
is we've got to deal with the elephant in the room, which is
the greed, recklessness and illegal behaviour on Wall
Street. When you have six financial institutions in this
country, that issue two thirds of the credit cards, and 1/3 of
the mortgages, when three out of four of them are larger today
than when we bailed them out, because they are too big to
fail. We've got to reestablish Glass Steagall, we have got to
break the large financial institutions. So I don't
think I felt he missed an opportunity. Was it him? Or was
it maybe it was O'Malley railing again on how we need a
modernised version of Glass Steagall, which we might want to
point out was ripped apart by Hillary's husband,
which Bernie did point out in the debate he did. I thought he
alluded to it but didn't say no, he pointed the finger Oh,
really.
I don't think I'm gonna get a whole lot of campaign
contributions from Wall Street. I don't have a super PAC. I
don't want campaign contributions from corporate
America. And let me be clear, unless it's From the sugar
lobby, while there's some great corporations creating jobs and
trying to do the right thing, in my view, and I say this very
seriously,
unlike all the other stuff you said, which was bullcrap read Oh
crap. I hate it when people do that. You know, let me be
honest. But the word frankly, bothers me, frankly. Or let me
be honest, despite the
dishonest the rest of the probably frightened my talk. And
frankly, you weren't Frank before?
I think so. And I say this very seriously. The greed of the
billionaire class, the greed of Wall Street is destroying this
economy. And as destroying the lives of millions of Americans,
we need an economy that works for the middle class, not just a
handful of billionaires, and I will fight and lead to make that
happen. Thank you.
Well, that's where it gets the millenniums, millenniums,
millennials,
the millenniums the millennial millennial? Like millennials,
I am a millennial and he gets them because they're all dead.
They're already dead. They're experienced with the system has
been negative, to say the least no jobs debt to worst. So they
all ended with this guy. So big voting,
and they got Big Mike and you know, all kinds of people come
out of the woodwork to support Bernie and I saw this morning.
Just cruising through the Sunday shows everyone's complaining
that Bernie doesn't get the amount of press he should be.
The media is not focusing on him and bullcrap. I know.
Before Trump came along to Trump, everyone, he was getting
all the press.
Bernie Yeah, he was doing very well. And I agree. I agree.
But he hasn't said anything new. So what's the cover? I mean,
Bernie's got me at least Trump you have to give him credit as a
as a natural in terms of the publicity angle. He always got
new things to bring it out that outrageous but oh my God, what
did he say now? Well, here's what he has not done that and he
could
hear is the latest. The latest Trump stand up in which he
responds to Vladimir Putin thinking Mr. Trump, good,
intelligent guy who can
call him brilliant or not good? Well, I do know he's this sort
of naive. I love his
mocking voice. He's, he's very good at that.
Putin called him brilliant. That's not good. It's this sort
of nice if like countries are always fighting with maybe we
get along and let them do. Right. Right. Like, you know,
we're all tough guys. But wouldn't it be nice if, like
Russia and us could knock out an enemy together? Not us bear the
full cost sometimes, like, you know, we're always fighting but
I've had some guys say, oh, Russia, how about one of our the
people up in this? I wouldn't talk to them. I wouldn't discuss
anything I wouldn't talk. Then what do they want to do? They
want to have a world war three. Okay, world war three. For what
for? Right for what? They have problems. We all have problems.
Russia's got plenty of problems. But I'll tell you what, if Putin
likes me, and if he thinks I'm a good smart person, which I hope
he believes in I am actually he's right. I am brilliant, you
know. But you know what, if he says something positive, that's
a good thing. That's not a bad thing. They try and turn it
around. And it's not to be turned around. This is good.
This would be a great start. If you think about the money we
spend on fighting everybody.
Yeah. Okay. Well, he talks about what the media says here is a
media report on this and I believe this was a maybe see
this is Trump complemented by Putin clip.
In the meantime, on the Republican side to know Donald
Trump back into headlines this evening after his eye opening
response to Russian President Vladimir Putin who is now
praising Trump to make Trump returning the favour but making
headlines with what he said ABCs David right on the Trump
campaign.
Today a mutual admiration society for two political strong
men,
Donald Trump.
Dr. Vladimir Putin praise Donald Trump as quote, undoubtedly a
bright and talented person. When people
do brilliant, it's always good, especially when the person heads
up Russia,
Jeb Bush tweeted a true freedom loving conservative wouldn't be
flattered by praise from a despot like Putin hashtag chaos
candidate.
At least he's a leader, you know, unlike what we have in
this country.
Again, he kills journalists that don't agree with him.
Well, I think our country does plenty of killing
also, Joe. So there's a lot of stupidity going on in the world
right
now, Joe
that outraged the 2012 nominee Mitt Romney who tweeted
important distinction. Sug Putin kills journalists and our
presidents killed terror and enemy combatants. Dr. Ben Carson
seems okay with all this because somebody's gonna pay your
compliment. And that seems to be how Trump sees it too. David
Wright, ABC News, News.
Now, the little slip in there that I thought was interesting
in terms of propaganda. He, the guy that did the package said,
described Trump and Putin as two political strong men. How is
Trump? He's not even in politics. He is running for a
debate to get into politics. So how is he a political strong
man?
Who Trump Yeah, oh, he's a political strong man by allowing
everyone else to be his political strong men against
him. Something like that. I don't know. There's no logic to
help. Of course, there's no logic. The whole thing is crazy.
But it's great to watch. And not this debate, but everything
around it is beautiful. Well, I will we're having fun. Well,
there was a CBS did a poll one of those where they had people
in the in the studio and they asked them questions and yeah,
that's it's a conversation. And they had it was a Muslim focus
group, CBS, but they brought in the Who's that right wing poll
guy? Lunch, I guess this is free lunch
once Frank lunch. And I want to I want to remind people since we
follow this guy, he's the one after the first debate when
Trump was starting to make inroads after his announcement
for president and they had the absolute first debate, which was
on Fox, where they attack Trump and Kelly. Kelly, what's Megan
Kelly Megyn Kelly was went after him. And it was a big deal. They
had to they had LUNs at the lungs or lunch, whatever is
lungs, l un tz Yeah, lunch, they had lunch at the end. And he had
a bunch of people that were broad spectrum. And the and he
made all sorts of conclusions. We have the clips, if they're
too hard to find where he says, All the everybody hated Trump,
he's gonna fall into polls and probably drop out. Oh, yeah,
going to lunch is great, accurate analysis of the public.
So this is where this guy is coming from. He's a he's a
student. Oh,
he's a paid student. He will give you the results you desire.
But I think he mainly locks
obviously wanted to him to go after Trump. But it was, but
this was CBS. And well, that's what's owners another day. Yes,
exactly. So this proves the theory. And there's been a
couple of articles about this particular focus group where
people who were in it late and you should never allow this to
happen if you're doing focus groups, but okay, should be NDA,
you know, like, like a national security letter. People say, Oh,
no, they, you know, they picked out all the pieces where I said
this, I said that. And here is there's a little kicker at the
end, mainly, the person speaking at the end of this 32nd Clip
actually did
a call out to Muslim parents across the country to not watch
the Republican debate in front of their children.
This is, so there's a Muslim ah, and she's sitting there and
saying, you know, I said, hey, people, don't let your children
watch the debates because of the hate the Muslim hate because
I knew that that subjecting our children to hear the hateful
stereotyping and the lumping of Muslims with a terrorism in
front of our children is actually something that is
psychologically impacts them so
and show me some children who want to watch this crap. Less
Bernie Sanders is holding a lightsaber, they're not going to
be interested. That's how
deep this is for us. But
don't you want the kids to know the challenges that they face? I
don't
want my children to be subjected to racism and vilification of
their faith. I will not allow Donald Trump to tell my kids how
they should feel about being Muslim. Right? How many
of you are physically afraid?
Because you're physically afraid. Now listen to this last
guy.
There's a most increase in hate crimes. That has been reported
through the Council on American Islamic Relations.
Last lady, I mean, I'm sorry. Yeah, these were care people,
John. Yeah, there was just I don't understand when did care
become a trusted source? Certainly after they're sorted
history of front grouping for terrorist organisations?
Yeah. I don't know. Why are these these these are the
bonehead editors at these operations at CBS in this case,
and of the other networks. They bring them all out all of them,
bring them on because of the there's other groups out there
Muslim groups that are very middle of the road, it's
probably conservative to that you could bring on if you just
looked around and just went down to the phone book list. Google
that. But no, they keep bringing these care people and that's all
they bring on. And now they have Frank Luntz who's just, you
know, I don't trust anything he says. Not after watching that
the way he did with the fox thing when they it was obviously
given the go ahead and go after Trump. And with all kinds of
conclusions that never panned out. Well, it looks like he's
through, right.
Something else odd happened in the political room. porting
industry and it's always fun when it's the paper of record
the New York Times. I'll read here a story published by New
York Times late Thursday night call some major media waves. The
story which was written by reporters, Peter Baker and
Gardner Harris included a remarkable admission by Obama
about his response to the recent terror attacks in Paris in San
Bernardino, California. However, the entire passage containing
Obama's admission, which was here it is in his mind, so he
had a private meeting with columnists. This is what you do
when you need to get the propaganda machine rolling. In
his meeting with the columnist Mr. Obama indicated he did not
see enough cable television to fully appreciate the anxiety
after the attacks in Paris and San Bernardino and made clear
that he plans to step up his public arguments. So the New
York Times published that but then erased it. They removed
that entire paragraph from their story, at least on the on the
online version, and they replaced it with something that
not did not at all reflect what the President apparently said.
So let's just listen first to say, Listen, this is the
allegation. I think the
New York Times says it was just trying to save space wanted,
from an earlier story, a stunning admission by President
Obama, that he essentially underestimated the public's
reaction to recent ISIS terror attacks. This quote was in the
original version of last night's time story, quote, in his
meeting with the columnist, Mr. Obama indicated that he did not
see enough cable television to fully appreciate the anxiety
after the attacks in Paris and San Bernardino. That section was
eliminated and replaced by two paragraphs that had more words
than the original sentence, calling into question the times
explanation about saving space.
Okay, so the conspiracy theory, websites one went for space
today, they went nuts. So the times is lying, of course. But I
think, you know, I'm trying to think really, did he really say
this, and then the New York Times are moved, and I'm the
first guy to jump on any kind of mainstream media conspiracy. I
think Charles Krauthammer actually had the correct
analysis about what really happened.
Well, look on this story about the meeting with the journalist
and him saying that this is all hyped up. You know, he didn't
see it on cable. I think I wasn't there. But I think, of
course, I wasn't there. But to me, he was being sarcastic. He
was it is a way of dissing, of sort of showing condescension to
the rabble at that this is Obama essentially saying, Well, you
know, the reason people are upset about this because it's
been hyped on television, and they are not as cool intelligent
as farseeing as I am. This is his usual professorial
condescension,
I believe that to be the right answer. I like it sounds totally
believable. Because, of course, you never know the context of
the written word. And so probably could
have said, I don't want you know, he could have any
reference cable television. You know, he could have been very
sarcastic when he says, You know, I don't watch a lot of
that cable television. I'm
sure that's exactly what he meant. And that's why the New
York Times had to retract it because it was misleading. And
also, it's really, you know, it's bad enough for him to say,
Oh, I'm out of touch I haven't watched which I don't think he
said, well, then they say, Oh, you stupid morons getting all
riled up by buying cable news and nut jobs. Stupid.
unintelligent. You're no elite like me. Yeah. And that is
actually more egregious.
Yeah, it is. That was good. That was a good I think that is the
analysis. I
agree. I agree doesn't happen often.
It does once in a while.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in
the morning to you John C. Dvorak.
Good morning to you Mr. Adam curry in the morning old boots
on the ground feet in the air subs underwater and all the
dames nights out there
in the morning everybody in the chat room. No agenda stream.com
in the morning to nick the rats. Once again, slamming at home
with the artwork for Episode Seven 782 The title was lumpy
lips, and I've not got a call yet from the Dutch press about
it. And of course the the album art was a Jeb Bush with it with
a big, big coke bottle glasses. Fabulous
vacation. Fabulous. Fabulous. Yeah, we had some trouble with
this one. And we must explain it because we did have PewDiePie
Yeah. Who is digging pretty hard. I had a really good piece
that we were going to kind of use but we figured we can use it
more as an evergreen. And the that was the moment you could
not look at the George Bush with coke bottle glasses on George
Jeb, Jim and I keep going and George Jeb Bush with a coke
bottle glasses on a night kind of laugh because it's just
stupid. And you Oh, by the way, I think they've had they've
changed his prescription. I think they're making him wear a
It's not such an outrageous prescription because I noticed
in the last face his eyeballs weren't as big in the glasses.
Okay, is usually I mean, I remember seeing where it's like
holy crap. The eyeballs were huge. They filled up the hole,
you know he must be blind.
I'm looking at the at this the size of the spreadsheet today
because that's how we determine how we're doing. That's our
stats.
Yeah, well, this is again, we enter the holidays on.
I'm going to take the blame. I'm going to take the blame. You
wait,
yeah, you might take the blame, but you don't know what you're
taking the blame for?
Low donations.
Mark, can you be responsible?
Because I told you sloths were trending. And I think the sloth
did us in. Oh, oh. And besides, we can't do the sloth anymore.
Why? Because I figured out why it was trending. And now we
sound like shills.
All right, tell me the brand
new Disney movies Zootopia.
Drew, this is awesome before we got to 1030
on a plate wash is the fastest guy in there. He can run the
plate like wait,
they're all slots?
Everybody at the post office is a sloth.
Well, that's an insult.
Are you saying that because he's a sloth? He can't be fast. Flash
under yard dash.
Okay, so well that's kind of insulting to the Postal Service.
Yeah. If I was them, I think this is Disney. This Disney? Oh,
they're not gonna be getting their mail. Steak. I do have
union I
do have an old an alternate idea,
by the way. So we do. What you're saying is we're unknowing
dupes the worst class. Yes, we have to stop the sloth
promotion. Unknowing dupes.
I would like to, I would like to switch. Oh god, there's nothing
cuter than baby hedgehogs.
Hedgehogs are cute. Yeah, okay, we'll
do a hedgehog and Hedgehog hedgehogs for the win.
I thought you were going to apologise for the fact that
because it's the Christmas season which when it begins,
which it began, right after our last show. People started
heading now you can see it on the freeways. We would do some
evergreen shows or some interviews with some old shows
to just take two weeks off, like all media does. Everybody in the
media they're all well, we'll be back in two weeks. We'll see you
next
year also makes our job a lot harder. Because everyone's
running retrospect. Even the President did a top 10 of 2015
in his in his podcast today. Who cares?
Top 10 What
top 10 of great things he's done. I guess it's kind of the
idea. I'm great. Here's what I did for you for the world.
Well, we could do that. Yeah. So So this begins a two week period
where you just so little money comes in. Although is all kind
of at least one guy our our vi count even though it doesn't
push it to be a like count but that's what he is. Sir Richard
Bagwell came in with $1,234.36 123456 Number
beautiful Louisville, Kentucky. And he he sent a check in which
is probably the way to do it. And it says here's this is his
fifth annual donation of one two threes, right? That's
right. That's right. Every year he does it. That's right. He
does it every year.
And he says all the world wants his job karma. I've done this
the past four years and karma has been good to me. So good. I
get to continue paying playing it paying it forward by
supporting the best podcast in the universe. Beautiful. Cheers
our S
Well thank you very much. And he's Vikon does he have a
protector?
He's never given he doesn't he all he does is contribute this
one donation a year of a very large amount. And he doesn't
push anything. I'd give him Kentucky personally but he
doesn't. He hasn't chosen he's a freelancer
if he doesn't want to enrol in all right he's a jobs Carmen.
Thank you so much for your annual contribution. We
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No, I think I've mentioned that in World War Two in order to see
if in the Netherlands, see if there were German spies or any
other kind of spy they would make people you know, kinda like
the US had who won the World Series?
Yeah. The like baseball You're a dead man is right.
The the Dutch version I think this showed up in soldier
Warren's the movie if you've never seen it. That's a great
movie to watch. The world is safe running at
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spy saving, shaping things. havening it?
Well, I would go in as a mute.
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Len called him from Salt Lake City, Utah, Glenn, good morning.
My question is, since we're spending all this money, where
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apologise for that, Congressman. I don't take that kind of
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Get some asshole go do that. But no, no, come on, say you know,
no agenda show talked about this.
I can think that's my point. It'd be I mean that's a good
one, though.
Because what are you gonna say based on your definition of
that's a good What are you gonna say juveniles sensitive?
Yeah, that made my day. But I've watched a lot of C span when
something like that comes along
is a change of pace.
I covered that.
They come up. every once awhile, they if that happens too often
because there's moments where they I remember a few years back
they had moon landing, guys, or was he the Moon Man? No Is it
was truthers, and there's a slew of them calling in because
apparently they're so well organised that they can get
their boys to call in. Yeah, unlike us who can't get anybody
to call in. Right. But they had them all calling in. And so they
put a delay loop on it, which was and they took it off, I
guess. Yeah. Yeah. Like it back
on. That's expensive. The digital delay stuff. And it
probably, oh, it's a bit it's an expensive piece of kit. And you
have to have a person. So the way C span works, it'd be
there's a director, a technical director, there may be a QA
maybe the Chiron is separate and audio separate. But they don't
have a big a big crews necessary to really vet the calls
perfectly. Number one and you have to dump out dumping out is
a skill. It's it's you know, it's a skill if you want if you
do a right. There may even be a me a guild or something. I'm
sure there's some kind of union
for that and pay union. Yeah, yeah. Maybe I'm pretty I have
I'll have to look into it again. But I always know that MTV were
They were always pissed off and we you know, they just had to
start to do that. Eventually. The seven it's about again Nine
seconds I think they had and it's a complicated job. What are
you going to what are you going to pull out? What are you going
to where you're going to hit the button?
We have who you gotta really be paying attention to. Yeah, but
you got a seconds to recover. Yeah.
Average it's anyway doesn't matter. I'm glad they don't have
it because it makes it much more entertaining. Much more.
Yes, depending on your definition of entertainment.
Yeah.
Okay, here's some entertainment for y'all. I don't know I never
watch this programme, but I watched it because the President
was on Bear Grylls. Bear Grylls grill. grill this Bear Grylls is
their grills is the nature guy.
No, I don't even know what you're talking about. I'm
completely real. No, no, I've never heard of bear berry are
why LLS? I think Bear Grylls
Yeah, he does. There was this? Well, he
he's an adventurer, and
all that this is this was promoted on the History Channel.
Yes. I think it was that. Yeah. Yeah. This bill Obama took a
week off. And he's Yes. Lay shirt.
Yes. Yes.
Well, this is great for the American economy for our
president to be, you know, if He's based in Hawaii now. So
he's on vacation while the world is melting down. But yeah, it's
vacation stuff. Yeah. So the President is out there were were
they they were out. I'll have to look up where they were. But
listen to a little clip here. So this
whole valley would have been filled with a glass. I read
somewhere that what you've done with your climate change plan is
the most significant thing any single human being has ever done
to protect the planet.
Wow. Guys, like Trump would be how to hire this guy. Worse than
anything I've ever heard. This
was really, really good. I like that. But you have done more
than any single human being ever in the universe of the world of
the universe of ever anything to save the planet, protect all the
people hell, hell
is the most significant thing any single human being has ever
done to protect the planet? Well, you know, and that's
amazing. Because there are so many sceptics out there No, yes.
You know, we you we always convert or did you take How did
you?
He was in observe they were in Alaska. So I think this all was
recorded during the President's Alaska trip. The only thing he
didn't do he didn't drink his own pee during this incredible
incredible trial. No, I am. I'm a big believer in science. Yeah.
Big believers is no sciences.
When I started looking at the science, it was indisputable.
This must be one when
he started looking at the science you know, as a Nobel
Prize winner. In dispute, I looked at the science and said,
By God it is indisputable as
it was indisputable, indisputable, this
must be one of the things that you'll girls, for example, are
most proud of that you're really making a mark on saving their
future planet.
Well, they made me proud of me they don't necessarily admit it
right now Oh, hell Oh, hell.
Any of course you had the President had a warning obvious
it's called
a special moment when we come out of the forest. Come over
this right and fam right in front of us, is a huge giant
white face of the snout and the end of the glass here. And we
just kind of had a moment of taking it in and like I have
a beef here. Why did the Brits call the glass here? And not a
glacier?
Because it's like last year
we just kind of had a moment in him realising this is why he's
fought so hard for all he's doing to try and protect our
planet again,
Australian
I believe so. Yeah. Yeah, I believe so.
For all he's doing to try and protect our planet.
Your most problems in the world, as tragic as they may be, are
fixable. You can reverse trends. This is one of those trends,
where if it starts accelerating too fast, then we we can be too
late. Know. The sciences.
This must have connected nicely to a little speech that he
included this little. This little ditty was included in the
speech, which I suppose is connected to this idiotic show
where he's wandered. By the way, I glad they were all Pro. I just
say pro glacier or anti glacier. Glaciers are not healthy.
They're not something you want coming down your neighbourhood.
You don't want to come down the block. And here's Republicans
are outliers. Okay. President
brushed aside Republican opposition to the deal right
now.
The American Republican Party is the only major party that I can
think of in the advanced world that you effectively denies
climate change. I mean, it's an outlier. So my sense is is this
is something that may be an advantage in terms of short term
politics and Republican primary, it's not something that is going
to be a winner.
Not going to be a winner now gonna
be a winner. And they're just doing it because it would that
implication very well, well done. Very well spoken. What he
implied is that the Republicans are liars.
Because they just pandering to the base with their rhetoric.
Yeah, they're just catering to the base with the bowl crap for
the dummies who are Republicans and very propagandistic
commentary, I was repulsed by it, to be honest about it. You
know,
I'm always listening very carefully to the words the
president uses, because I believe that, you know, he, he's
very careful. He's always gonna be able to come back years later
and say that this is exactly what I said. You can see if you
listen to my words carefully, I was saying exactly this, whereas
he's good at that. I don't think we were doing I was living in
London. So we probably didn't have the opportunity to record
so many clips in 2008. When Obama was running for the first
time someone sent me this clip, which I'd forgotten about
terrorism and nuclear weapons, climate change and poverty,
genocide, and disease. All of the candidates in this race,
share these goals.
Yep. And you know, what? He realises his mistake, and he
smiles but doesn't correct it.
All of the candidates in this race, have good ideas. Yeah.
glosses right over it.
I think you've achieved your goal. We got terrorism, we got
climate change. To nuclear weapons. Yeah,
you got to play that clip again, from the beginning. Now that
everyone can understand what what it is you're getting at
terrorism and nuclear weapons, climate change and poverty,
genocide, and disease. All of the candidates in this race
share these goals.
Yeah, so GM budget play this is shaping human clothing or
whatever it is pigs.
Does a couple as a couple. I wanted to only play that one
again. And we can do we could do the medley. medley Okay. All
right.
Terrorism and nuclear weapons, climate change and poverty,
genocide, and disease. All of the candidates share these
goals. Now. I screwed
up. Okay, let's go to another time. Do you use it at the end
of the show? Okay. And then you get to the melody as a good one.
Yeah.
Show I'll put it as a medley. Okay, got it. That's the
President's 2008 goals. Good work. Yeah. He's good man. right
in line with what needs to be happening. Hey,
so some some one of our producers sent us a I didn't
think much of it. Listen to this clip when I was starting to take
clips that Trump people have a visceral dislike of Trump
because he's he's reminiscent of a character that was in Green
Acres. Which one? The shyster, there's a shyster and Green
Acres that are always coming around and Haney and Haney would
always sell something stupid and I in so somebody on YouTube does
all over YouTube. By the way, somebody on YouTube showed
Cruz's Ted Cruz Ted Cruz giving a speech and with Haney his
voice over it it didn't work that well that didn't see them
didn't sound that much like Cruz. But then when I was
editing the clips and I ran into the clip of that Haney voice as
the you know, it sounds enough like crews to make a connection
you can put soon tell me what you think. Looking for
this just dropped by I wondered if you made any decision about
the wallpaper. Say your lucky day. I got some furniture that
was just made for this play.
He's a little too Hickey.
I think if you knock the Hickey part out, it would sound pretty
much like him. Yeah. And I bet I was just just passing through
just an idea like thought, Okay. I don't think that's why people
dig dislike to cruise though. I think Cruz just today I think is
his presentation.
Yeah, you know, he's just, he's just creepy looking. And if you
want to, if you wanted
to really take it to some level that's deep. I would say he
reminds me of Joe McCarthy. He kind of looks like him. He's
kind of talks like him. And it's an old reference. And you know,
nobody remembers Joe McCarthy
how let's let's look at this from a media deconstruction
standpoint. How can we use this To make Ted Cruz even look
stupid, I think I think Green Acres is too old to do anything
with
it. Yes, I think it's a callback that's dated. Yeah.
I don't think that's a good way to go. No, I
Well, we'll, we'll work it out. We'll do we'll do a freebie for
the competition. Okay. If curry Devaraj curry DEVAR consulting
company, greedy a consulting group group, and we will find
some way to make crews worse.
I'm sure we can do a great job. Well, there's some other people
in trouble.
Start by while you do. I'm going to have a beer. Okay.
Nice Schlitz malt liquor obviously. Hey man, first
of all, IMF chief Christine Lagarde says she will be
appealing a decision by a French court that she stands tall for
her role in the payment of 400 million euros to a French
businessman for case dates back to more than 20 years and will
be heard a Peruvian court for decision comes as a surprise to
her legal team. As France's top prosecutor had previously
recommended that the case against IMF chief be dropped.
The prosecutor said there was no case against the law God but the
judge has disregarded this. This decision was taken disregard of
the facts of the documents of the trial record and of the
recommendations of the prosecution authority. It is
therefore incomprehensible. The ruling concerns Bernard Tapie
who was compensated by the French government after selling
his stake in sports company added death to Credit Lyonnais
in 1993. His case was referred to an arbitration panel by a God
who was the French finance minister at the time.
Now they're taking her out. Did you get this from the FOP news?
That's a EURO NEWS? Wow. Yes, sometimes they have really
crappy production. K fop, K fop. And sappy news, I think why do
you think you think you may be on to something? Yeah, it's
time to take her out. They've been trying this has been going
on for a long time. And now finally, the French are the ones
that are going to take her out. Yeah.
Wonder what she did wrong?
Oh, you didn't listen to the report?
Well, I was stupid. This guy's voice I was she the
way I No, no, no, no. I know what she did wrong. According to
the report. She's involved in some scandal. Well, the
scandal is is is not small. No, no.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking what she did wrong. Oh,
Perez, IMF. Oh,
of course. I don't I think I think that she she announced the
revenue be was going to be in the SDR basket before any of the
the reforms were ratified by the US he's pressuring that's what
she's doing. She's pressuring the US. And this would be my
deconstruction. Okay,
she's I'm all in on the idea that when she because when she
did the rim, the call it the Chinese one, because I can
pronounce it. When she did that. I thought it was a little
peculiar.
And I think she's just pressuring. She's been doing
this and she extended the date until actually this month was
when the Rata for the was a 2000. It's a 2005 or 2010. It's
like there's been a while the reforms which would allow the us
to maintain our veto, but would put China into the basket into
the SDR basket would put them in number two on the list. And now
we're not going to ratify that it's obvious that been going on
for years and I think she just pressured who wasn't
going to be two is gonna be three euros to
Okay. Somebody then but still putting them in at all. I think
she she pressure. I
thought that was peculiar, and I
don't think that she will be. I think she'll recover. She's
smart. And she's a she's a Slimer slime ball slime dog.
She's a weasel. Sure weasel her way out. Somehow she'll do
something because she loves the power too much. Look at that
face. She's in Santro pay all the time. Tanning.
She does like a baseball glove.
Yeah, that's one way of putting it.
Let me write that down.
After next time I see you do you want to borax head? Leaf look
like a like a baseball glove? What's going on with you, lady?
We had this big omnibus
bill. Yes. The one they slipped in Sisa. Yes, they did. And
nobody seems to. Oh, well. Where's the outrage? With the
recalls?
No one. No one cares if you know why here they cared a year ago.
Look at the timing of it. Who are the people that would be
against this? Against the Cybersecurity Information
Sharing Act, which has now just become legislation slipped into
the omnibus bill who wouldn't be against that. What is the
profile of this person? And what were they? And what were they
doing Friday and Saturday?
What were they doing on Saturday?
They were jacking off to Star Wars man. No wonder no one paid
attention to it. These guys are genius. Timing is everything,
all the
Star Wars.
Now what I did find, and this was, you know, it was leaked. So
I'm thinking that it must be an administration link. That leak
the the administration had a number of priorities and
preferences for the for system, which I guess means are going to
start adding this or will have to put stuff in afterwards, but
the framework is already there. And I'd like to read a few of
them if you don't mind that this comes from the White House and
it is a leaked document. liability protections is the big
one that your eye are interested in. John, the administration
supports providing narrowly targeted liability protections
to incentivize broader cybersecurity threat information
sharing. That's interesting, narrowly targeted liability
protections to incentivize broader cybersecurity threat
information sharing. Now, that hurts my brain. Yeah, even
though it's it's kind of it's self contradictory. Yeah. Here's
the logic about encouraging a business to like see,
incentivizing. incentivize this. Yeah.
Here's the funny thing about incentivizing the way I see it.
This is an you released liability issues. This is
telling me I don't believe this, what I'm gonna say, by the way,
but it's what it says or is this what the government believes, I
think this way with a guy that government, the administration,
the minister, any Valerie Jarrett, Maryland, let's just
say, Valerie, okay, the president real pay, because they
know so little about business, they actually think that the
only thing preventing any business Apple or any of them
from just spilling everything on their customers not giving a
crap and giving it all over to the government lies because they
might get sued.
You know, and I think they're probably right.
I don't think they're right in any way. Oh, no reason. There's
nothing. There's not a no,
you don't think Facebook is chomping at the bit to share?
Facebook is chomping at the bit to sell. Let me read the next
line. This man I'm gonna share. Let me read the next line. This
may help because I understand why they put this in here. So we
have this administration supports providing narrowly
targeted liability protections to incentivize broader cyber
security threat information, sharing appropriate liability
protections, should incentivize good cybersecurity practices and
should not grant immunity to a private company for failing to
act on information it receives about the security of its
networks. So what they're saying here is you better be sharing
everything. Because if you fail to share something about the
security of your network, then you're in trouble. So
oversharing is encouraged by this provision, the way I read
it. Such a provision would remove incentives for companies
to protect their customers personal information, and may
weaken cybersecurity writ large. Whoa, did you drop your your
teeth?
I dropped my mic.
Yeah, it happens all the time. There is a danger that providing
a good faith exception for a failure to act on information
received could create a moral hazard and discourage companies
from responding appropriately to cyber threat indicators they
receive. So I think it's actually it's an interesting the
way they put this is we want to give them an immunity but don't
give them immunity for when they screw up or maybe they pretend
to screw up because then they'll be just liable as ever.
Oh, that's interesting. They're saying yeah, there. Somebody in
the meeting, Valerie said, Hey, wait a minute. What if these
guys actually screw up? Yeah. And they and then they want to
fall back on this provision saying, you know, we're like,
Who do you? There's no liability, right? We can't let
him get away with that because these guys are Boneheads.
Let's move on the DHS but you like this. I think it's quite
fun actually to do this. Alright, it's your cybersecurity
to John. The administration supports authorising new
liability protected, sharing relationships only through the
National Cybersecurity and Communications Integration
centre, a civilian entity within the Department of Homeland
Security. Additionally, the administration supports real
time sharing between the NCCIC and relevant federal agencies
with appropriate privacy protections and has
preliminarily deployed such a capability at DHS. Focusing real
time sharing through one centre DHS enhances situational
awareness facilitates robust privacy controls, and helps
hackers to find a single source of all information. I'm sorry, I
made that up myself. Then we go to defensive measures. The use
of defensive measures without appropriate safeguards raises
significant legal policy of diplomatic concerns that can
have a direct deleterious impact. What does that mean
deleterious? Negative? Why don't we just say negative,
hey, like this word better, so you can't keep using the same
words over and over?
Okay. deleterious impact on information systems that
undermine cybersecurity. Moreover, certain provisions may
prevent the application of laws such as state common law tort
remedies. So you can't just legislation should not create a
backdoor exception by allowing quote, defensive measures that
access other computers without authorization. So companies
can't go doing that on their own is the way I read that. Privacy
scrub. Let me see that's not necessarily interesting. The
Cyber Threat Intelligence integration centre. No, not in
Oh, the Einstein authorization. Now we've looked at this
Einstein thing. And Einstein is pretty much a it's a closed
network that has email phishing, filters and spam filters, and
DNS protection. And right, but I think because it's called
Einstein, that they think this is like the this is the cat's
meow or something. Einstein authorization.
Hey, SkiDoo. Schedules me out. Meow 23. SkiDoo cat's meow. Wow.
Well, that's that's probably what they're talking about. Oh,
and yeah. The administration supports provisions that will
improve the cybersecurity of federal networks and systems
while protecting privacy and confidentiality. So the
administration supports Einstein authorization language, sunset,
so that you had all this is this brand name in the document?
Yeah.
No. Yeah. But here legislation should preserve the roles of
appropriate agencies to maintain security for national security
system. The final bill should include language that exempts
national security systems and information systems of the
Department of Defence and the intelligence community. Oh,
okay. So they get to have their own stuff,
I guess. Course, your own databases. Yeah.
government or private sharing language directing the
government to develop procedures to enhance sharing efforts with
non federal entities should track current law and practice.
Yeah, but if you want to be shared, if you want, some
sharing from the government is not going to happen.
notification requirement regarding misuse of data
unnecessarily prohibit unnecessary prohibitions on
intelligence activity, language about Title One, title two of HR
1560 Would improperly restrict appropriate intelligence
activities that are necessary cybersecurity activities. For
instance, a department CIO attempting to identify the
origin or malware on the DEP system, right might run afoul of
the restrictions. The final bill should not contain unnecessary
restrictions on surveillance activities, or in the
alternative should properly restrict unrelated surveillance
activity. Nothing in this title, or the amendments made by this
title shall be construed to create new authorization for an
element of the intelligence community. But I think it's
saying now everything's in one fine place. And if they need to
do some surveillance, then they can probably dip into that I
think. And this is now a lot of legalese stuff. International
reporting requirements. Now that's about it. I think the
sharing is really it's the main part. And they're really opening
up and so Hillary's tight, you know, tapping into that because
she knows what's going on. And there's there's I think there's
a lot of conversations that are being held a lot.
Interesting, well is done deals where I say
it's totally a dud, they're just going to add a few things. In
the new session, I'm sure they'll do some kind of
amendment or something. But the I'm waiting for Jen briny to
read that thing.
No, she will. Well, that's a big one.
It's a big one. But I've I've been looking at the relevant
sections, but it's going to take me until after Christmas to
really get through it. I mean, it's a lot of pages. This is a
big one.
All right. Well, there was that tech
news. No, if you want I do have some tech news if you if you
wanted. Well, let's
go to tech news for a minute. Okay. It wasn't quite that but
that should have been in tech news. Well, we
can. We can just pretend it was in in tech news. I ready.
Vaughn HSMAI A phone the way I see it the only good phones a
landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite. Everybody,
Tom,
once again for tech news, all the tech Cornelissen this show
to find out what's really going on at tech news. John C. Dvorak.
Tech News tech news. Oh,
I got nothing.
I got some tech news. I figured, yeah. Finally a little bit of
vindication over there on the Bloomberg,
what exactly is the problem? What are they found like that
these driverless cars are involved in more accidents. And
now this is a news report, you may have seen that Google cars
are involved in many, many accidents. One
is driven by by people.
That's right, Betty. And what's happening is that driverless
cars follow the law, which the rest of us human drivers don't
always do. So they drive very cautiously. People don't expect
that and they're driving into the back of them.
Go on the New Jersey Turnpike, and that will be an extreme
fault.
No, the back. Of course, it's the cars fault. Of course,
that and they're driving into the back of them.
Go on the New Jersey Turnpike. And that will be an extreme.
Screw you with your jersey jokes. Do
a study on that. Okay. So yeah. Does that mean that researchers
that they have to now think about what pricing in or I guess
factoring in breaking the law in these in these driverless cars?
You know, that's the debate and all these labs, should they make
the cars behave more human, which means breaking the law to
keep up with the rest of us scofflaws on the highway? It's
it's it's tough to date. Because you know, once you let them
break the rules a little bit, how far do you go? These crashes
are the fault of the human drivers, not the robot cars, and
they tend to be slow speed and no injury type crashes.
Okay, so then
just stop complaining. Listen to the car. Yeah, it's a robot.
It's a dumb dumb idea.
This, this actually sounds like a pretty big problem. Big
problem before you get mass adoption. So if the researchers
are going to try to factor in, you know, essentially breaking
the law, how far are we away from that then Keith?
Well, you know, Google is talking about splitting off its
driverless car unit into a standalone business, they want
to have ride for hire cars on the road before too long. So
this needs to be figured out California regulators this week,
came up with some very strict rules, driverless cars should
behave and that there should always be a human ready to take
over the wheel. So I think there's a lot still to be worked
out, Betty. But can
it ever be really figured out? Keith?
Yeah. All right, who is this idiot? Betty?
She's on Bloomberg. But here's the here's the answer to the
question. Oh, yeah. I
mean, we have some very smart programmers. Smart programmer,
made the cars behave a little human, like it stopped signs
that when there's a four way stop, the robot car will creep
forward a little bit to let them know, I'm going next. So there's
a little bit of that already showing up. But there's much
more that needs to be done.
I have an idea. Here's, here's a, here's an idea that President
curry would come up with, I'm going to ban I'm going to ban
all of these cars. A Google can do research and they will pay
for drivers to drive people around. Then then they can do
whatever experiments they want. But these people be driving them
around. And we'll have people working this is a stupid idea.
I'm not for it. People believe somehow when they're jerking off
on their, on their lightsabers,
that we're seeing a lot of references to jerking off in
today's show. Well,
maybe I've been jerking off a lot lately.
Is this something is this? Is this a pro to you having you
having personal difficulties with your feet?
No, not at all. I have no personal difficulties. If you
want to.
You are very, you have a certain way of presenting yourself and
and when I see an anomaly, yes, it stands out.
I'm trying not to use F words. I'm trying to use different
things. But I think the the visual of jerking off a
lightsaber is the correct visual, because people truly
believe that this is going it's not going to happen in your
lifetime. Now yours.
released it. They released it out last week.
Okay, fine. Drone, Amazon drone deliveries not going to happen.
I agree with that. And this self driving car is not going to
happen. Oh, it's absolutely going to not in our lifetime. It
just won't know it will happen in our life. Not Not gonna
happen. Yes. Okay, fine. It's not going to happen. It's on a
close track, maybe in Berkeley, where you want to put them on
rails. Next, we need rails in the road to make it work so
everyone can hook into the right rails. Human beings are very
good robots, John. They're very, very good at driving. This these
cars. There's no intelligence in these things. Zero. This is not
artificial intelligence. It doesn't have it. It can't take
new information about a situation and make a decision.
It all has to be it's skip logic. We're all The smart, the
smart guy, you want some some dumb a whole 25 year old Google
single white net Asian developer because that's what they hire.
You want that guy to be determining how he's with you.
I'm sick and tired of the Google self driving car. It ticked me
off when the artists at the obod Dinner said, Oh, this is going
to solve all traffic problems. We have no other way to go. Oh,
crap. Bull crap.
It's just a reaction to the artists at the obod dinner.
Not just that it's a reaction out of control.
Really? Yeah.
irrational. screed.
This is an I'm very worried screen. Instead of rant. By the
way, this is a very rational screed. There is no evidence
that this will work in any type of traffic scenario in the
foreseeable future.
Yeah, it works fine.
No, it doesn't. There's no earth to report,
they get bumped into these people around them. Now here's
what my fear is, I have a more logical way of looking at it. I
think that the problem would be like the problem. I kind of know
a little bit about this. But I don't know any specific
examples. But when you're inside of driving around a Tesla that
you think is so cool. Yuri, I don't think it's so cool. No,
not you. I'm just referring to the universal you. Driving
around Tesla, you think is so cool. You're in a box of deadly
electricity, that one little thing can happen. And you'll be
just fried. I mean, yeah, you could burn to death in a car
that catches on fire. That's true. But when you get hit with
that kind of voltage, if this is free, you can't get out. You're
done.
I think I think I'm trying to make me. I think I'm trying to
make them a much larger point.
No, no, I'm gonna continue. So it's a little car, I'm afraid at
somebody because they're bumping into him a lot. Apparently,
according to that report, somebody bumps into the thing.
It's screws up the network or something, the car goes out of
control, takes off like a rocket and goes off a cliff. I mean,
that could happen. You
don't need all these crazy, you just don't need all of these
examples. Every single scenario that any driver will witness on
the road is going to be different every single time. It
takes real intelligence to react to certain scenarios. The belief
somehow that Google of all people Google, who are the skip
logic geniuses to thought that takes him 2000 servers, just to
determine what fucking ads you're gonna get. Guy you how
many? Yeah, did how many? How many servers is going to take to
determine what to do in a certain scenario? Is it going to
talk to the cloud first? Is it gonna have all this tech on
board? Is it how is it going to be updated? We'll know what to
do. We'll be able to take new information, road conditions,
everything intuition, no, people believed way too much in what
technology can do. It's a bad idea. And I'm against it. And
just because I'm against it doesn't give you the right to
say I'm off the rails.
No, you're off the rails not about being against it. It's
it's your presentation, which is in the form of a screed now
seems to be derived from an old bought dinner. That's what I'm
talking about. Not about your Yeah, you can be against it.
Your Ford is against it, I can you go talk to any executive
over there, and they'll give you a million.
My problem is that you're all in with it. That's my problem. Ah,
ah, that's
why that's why you're ticked off hopefully in all in why why why
will this work? I've it just, why wouldn't it it's not.
The so far we have no evidence is trying to work.
It's got tonnes of evidence, you got over a million miles of
driving around these things driving around in California and
Nevada.
That's every round, they drive 35 miles an hour and they get
bumped into because they don't they're not participating in the
traffic system. They're their own entity is like having one.
That's why the system, I know that you're not gonna go like
this either. That's why the system's got to go. It has to be
all thank you for proving my point. Thank you for proving my
point. The system will only work if everybody is in self driving
cars that yes, and that will only happen when we're dead. No,
ah
ah, it will happen sooner than you want to believe. They put a
timeframe. First, they're going to have the cars mixing and
matching with this and again, have these bumper episodes I'm
writing. All right,
I'm writing out a check right now. It saw I'm writing out a
check. I'm writing out a check to John C. Dvorak. $10.10 $10
and I say fine. Okay, how many years 10? No, they will not be
yes.
10 years. 10 years $10 No 10 year okay. What I know 10 years
$10 is fine. The whole country is not going to be running self
driving cars in 10 years where I'm gonna say where they're
going to be legally they're gonna be all over the place and
you can grab one and take it like an Uber no is not going to
happen. Yet in 10 years. No? Yes. Okay. That's the bet you
don't want to make the bet. Here's what I'll say, you know,
I'm
gonna, I'm going to finalise I'm taking the bet. And we'll
finalise by saying, There is no evidence, self driving cars will
be completely fully integrated within 10 years. Because there
is no evidence of that. And I have learned using this phrase
from the best.
Who and why? What did I say? You want? Are you talking about
Obama?
No, you said you want me to? I was just leaving that where it
was. But if you want me to say it, well, there is no evidence
people will want to use the mouse.
Oh, you're you're using the mouse thing? Yeah, though. I'm
using the no evidence. I was thinking, No, I'm no, I'm using
the note that no, I'm using there is no evidence line, which
is a great line. At the time, there was no evidence people
wanted to use the mouse. No, there wasn't
not 1984. There wasn't exactly why wouldn't there be. But But
today, there's no evidence that it's going to be completely
clear. There's no evidence that people don't want self driving
cars. That's not true. I
didn't say that. I said, there's no evidence, it's going to be
fully integrated into traffic within 10 years. It's just not
going to happen. It's an overestimation of what people
think Google can do. Of course, the world. Thank you. There you
go. There's no evidence now you're making all my points for
me. I have nothing to argue me.
You're a bigot. You're a self driving car bigot, you hate self
driving cars. And everyone who stood even thinks the idea is a
possibility.
That's hate speech. I don't want exhibiting I did not say the
word hate. I did not say the word. You don't have
to say the word hate. It's the hateful nature of what you said.
very hateful and hurt. hurtful. Yeah. very hurtful. I feel bad
about what you said.
You know what, I'm still waiting for the paperless office, John,
that was gonna happen to and that'll happen at that'll happen
when we have the paperless toilet is when that will happen.
I have my old comment is the following this I still think is
funny. It used to be funnier 1520 years ago, but it was if
anyone had an in started to invest in the paper industry.
When the word paperless office was invented. They'd be a
multimillionaire. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. I know what it's got to
do with anything but okay. All right. We're done. No, we're not
done. I call tech news.
A major breach has officials worried that hackers have been
able to spy on encrypted government information for
possibly the last three years
Juniper Networks is a is a company that makes routers and
computer network equipment. And a lot of their equipment is used
by the US government, everybody from the FBI, Treasury
Department, Department of Defence. Yesterday, they
disclosed that there was a major major breach of their systems.
Somebody three years ago, it appears, change the source code
unauthorised source code. And basically what this allowed was
some sort of backdoor for hackers to be able to come in
and out without leaving a trace and being able to spy on
encrypted communications. And so what we're talking about is, you
know, government communications that says supposed to be secure.
Even private companies that are using VPN networks are things
that you and I use to log into our computers, all of that these
hackers would have been able to spy on for the last three years
now this flaw was really only recently discovered. And now we
have the FBI investigating the Homeland Security Department is
very, very concerned now they're trying to do an assessment to
see how many government agencies including some of the ones
handling some of more sensitive secrets in the US government
have these networks and whether or not there was some breach
their some of their classified information, some of their top
security information has been exposed by these hackers.
Seeing as you've been the the Huawei routers has been your
your route to coined a phrase. Let's talk about Juniper, who
makes these things? Who is where are they made in China?
Are there Juniper Networks, that American company are
they the boxes are made here? The chips are made here. As far
as I know, everything's made here. So I mean, that chips, you
know, are could be made anywhere nowadays. But the chips wouldn't
be the issue, either whoever changed the source code or
source code they're talking about?
It's a poor report. I'm thinking there must be some kind of boot
level type stuff.
Well, probably, I don't know we need to find a real report on
this. But there's a couple of mistakes they made in there
anyway. One, if you have a VPN and you're going happen to
somewhere along the line, it falls through one of these
routers. The the information on the VPN is kind of triple
secure, it has end to end encryption, and then the MRI
which
can we Which ends, at least you'll know where what computer
someone's connecting to if you if you if you have the VPN, you
know the VPN endpoint, you may not have that you're right that
you probably don't have the encrypted information. But you
have the endpoint and that helps a lot,
man. Yeah, it does help a little. But so that part about
the VPN is just it's shouldn't be in the report.
Like a CNN would expect
they want they wouldn't have it. So what it is, is just a
backdoor. So you could just sounds like US government stuff,
where you could take the streams that are going through this
router, and then you push them into another TV, just just like
duplic, you can duplicate him and send him some others send
them to some NSA computers as well. This is what NSA does NSA.
I think you're right. And I think it's an internal as one of
those internal agency things where when he found out the
other agencies doing something, yeah. So and I don't understand
it doesn't sound right.
Well, it could also just be, you know, a story promoted by Cisco.
Well, yeah, that's
point. That's a good point. That would be my plan for I'd do
that. Well, I'm bringing this up because we obviously don't have
enough information. But this is the show where not for the tech
Hornies. We'd love dude, dudes named Ben sis admins, let us
know what you're seeing what you're thinking. Yes, somebody
one of our producers, one of our many producers will dissect this
for us with some great information, then we'll read it
right from the right from their valuable hot note.
But right now, with all of this, I think there's a it's about
$700 billion worth of technology contracts waiting to be filled.
I think your Cisco and your Cisco ideas is pretty valid.
Valid to me. Yeah. Juniper has always been a pain in the ass to
Cisco.
Because they are taking market share. Yeah, well, that makes
sense.
Got some, they got some. I don't know what their sales pitch is,
is one of those Kleiner Perkins companies. Oh, really? Well,
that they have been around. It's been around. It's been around
since the 90s. They have some technology. That's something the
government likes, and I'm not sure what it is, but I'm never
gonna know. Baiser put Huawei in.
Alright, let's close it out.
Good phones, a landline. And the phone should be made out of
Bakelite.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, before we sorry. Well, I
was gonna say, would you have something to say that before we
so when you say that then I defer. I was
just transitioning to something else. If you want to do
something, that's cool. I just
wanted to put people on the alert to low tech news.
Tech News. Turk. You mean like auto mania?
Auto mania? I like that auto mania, auto mania. There's an
auto mania thing going on in Ottoman Empire. And this is this
discreet priority again is getting on my nerves. Yeah, I
heard about this. Yeah. Okay. This is called the Ottoman
hearth. And which is always pronounced the Hirth for for
some reason by the reporters because it's covered overseas,
and they pronounced it Hirth instead of hearth. And it seems
to be like a brown shirts or something like that. This guy
already again, who's now we have to remember that he's the
president of Turkey. Traditionally, the president of
Turkey is a is a bullshit job. It is not a job where you really
have any power. It's mostly for show
unless you have all the oil money from ISIS. Well,
there's that and it looks like and arrayed against been tried
already in early one has been trying to give himself more
power as this figurehead instead of being just a figurehead jerk.
He wants to actually run the place. And so this is Ottoman
her thing which goes around beating people up and it's just
like the bra if you know your history, and you know, the brown
shirts of Germany, the whatever they were called the s something
LS A I think? Yes essay, the essay play Ottoman Hirth. And
this is a kind of a background or
Turkish opposition member of parliament and out of them has
reiterated his claims that Islamic State is producing sarin
gas in Syria, but he's now being investigated for treason over
the allegations. In the latest statement, the Member of
Parliament, said that the ISIL members obtained the chemicals
necessary for the production of sarin which was transported
through Turkey. He also demanded that President out of the one
apologise for the MP wrote about a lynching campaign against him
and his party ever since he shared the allegations in an
interview with us, and out of them complained that he received
hundreds of death threats on social media after we had the
interview. for Turkey based journalist Madoff Soviet
attempted to meet with a group responsible for the Harassment
campaign against it I knew them is gaining momentum fast and
also on social media. The Ottoman Earth is associated with
the ruling AK Party and is seen by many as the group that does
the parties dirty work. They are known for harassing opposition
political parties and newspapers. Now we've reached
out to several media outlets here on a stumble to see if they
will comment about the group. But many told us they're afraid
to talk to us because we're Russian media and they're afraid
of the backlash they may receive. One group Bill goon was
willing to tell us about it. Glover here, keepin Ultimen
hearses a new organisation which in fact can be described as
advanced militia force. They have recently organised violent
activities in various areas and have the support of the
government, such as the attack on the Haryana newspaper.
The attack on Hollywood happened on the same day that the
opposition Republican People's Party offices were vandalised by
men identifying themselves as members of the armed hurts.
Founded just five years ago, the movement which wants to restore
Islamic and Ottoman culture already counts more than a
million members. They claimed to have a deep love for President
tilde one, and are willing to resort to death threats and
attacks on politicians or journalists who dare criticise
the regime. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, this isn't being covered by our media in any way.
We can't say anything bad about Turkey because they might not
you know, play play nice with us. They have plenty of other
suitors that are fair, there are fairweather friend. They like to
rush
operation, they're all in with ISIS, we have to face that
reality. At some point. They're all in with the idea of a new
Ottoman Empire headed up by this guy who should have no power.
And they're provoking all this stuff. They want to kill all the
curves they want to pull? Well, you know, in our media thing
where they just kill everybody in some ethnic group that are
making their lives miserable. Get rid of them. And this is not
this is not going to turn out well. And there's a law sort of
tight relationship with Turkey
now. And there's a lawsuit right now. There's a lot of griping
back and forth between Fatima Gulen and who everyone wants
extradited. Now that's the that's the guy with all the
charter schools and the what I would like categorise as some
addresses all over in Texas, a lot of them the harmony schools.
So yeah, I think he needs that he needs to have his brown
shirts. That's the only way he can stay in power. But I think
the people in Turkey are not happy.
Well, the people in cosmopolitan Turkey are not happy. That means
the city's right. But the vast majority of people in Turkey are
living in mud huts out in the eastern part of the country. And
they think he's great. And he's a really good religious man. I
mean, this is this is not going to work out.
No, but I think that the lack of reporting is obvious. We cannot
be making turkey look bad right now. We need them.
Well, showing us their airport. Yeah. Yeah. Great.
And before we thank the shortlist for today, are you now
you said something in a newsletter? Are you going to
watch the Miss Universe tonight? Or is it not being broadcast?
is being broadcast on Fox? Yes.
Can I still Yeah, we want to call winners.
I don't know what these girls look like. Oh, I
don't think this is an international Yes.
Oh, hold on. I can call winners here. Let me protect my let me
take my charge with all the countries of the world. Hold on.
Hold on. Wait a minute. Let me Oh, it's right here. I got my
Dart. Okay. Let me take the Dart and throw it.
Okay, it
looks like Ukraine and Miss Ukraine.
I think you may be off she'll be in the top 10 For sure. I think
it'll be Miss Spain.
Why Miss Spain
there's renewed confidence in Spain. The economy here is now
growing. But the effects of the financial crisis are still being
felt and corruption scandals have damaged old political
parties. So many world today vote for change. China is a
teacher. He says his salary hasn't gone up in seven years.
Monica and Carlos wants a new government to tackle corruption
and unemployment. But like many others, they still haven't
decided who will get their vote. A lot of Spaniards are turning
to a new Liberal Party called citizens. Their leader Albert
Rivera is just 36 Many others will vote for 37 year old Pablo
Iglesias and his anti austerity party podemos but the favourite
to win the most votes is the current prime Miss Mr. Mariana
Roy, his conservative popular party claims credit for taking
the economy from crisis to growth.
I'm thinking it's going to be Spain because there's going to
be a lot of uncertainty and strange news of this election.
We're both overlooking the obvious, which is the story we
did. On Putin complimenting Trump.
Oh, and this is a Trump show
to Trump show. Okay, and Putin comes as as Trump is
great, so Trump's gonna have Miss Russia when
that wouldn't surprise me.
That's a good one. That's a good one. I like that. I like that.
One thing though the the bodies may not be this well, of course
it's not the same thing runway models not the same as Miss
Universe. But there's new legislation in Paris as we have
the fashion just
been going how many days when I was a little kid I was one year
old this was going on but now I know what you
but now it's legislation. Now there's a law
these days you can be too skinny in Paris. France is now banning
excessively thin fashion models. Violators will be fined up to
75,000 euros more than $81,000 and could eat Hey community this
bagel quick and face jail time the law will enforce regular
weight checks. models will be required to present a medical
certificate showing Body Mass Index compliance with
regulations before being allowed to work.
I think I'm going to become a runway model inspector John but
I think this is my new vocation scares me we have to check your
body fat here. Can I see your medical certification? Make sure
everything
is cellulite come from? Damn is all the shows will be in.
Wait, there's other countries who have this this law as well.
But Italy doesn't? I don't think so foolish?
Man. Probably not? Probably not. Yeah, I know. They've been
talking about it. I've been hearing about it for decades.
But now there's actual legislation and there will be
checks. Spot check
like the champion was only done just to start a new industry of
bureaucratic bureaucracy of model checking.
Well, I think we should be in the front of the line, my good
friend.
I'm gonna show my school by donate to no agenda. Imagine all
the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun
well, we have a very few people that thanks so we'll thank them
all. At least the few Dame Beth Baronet tests of Baja in Tucson,
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Greetings to my 17 year old niece, Miss Elizabeth. No pics
for Adam. She apparently was hit in the mouth that during combo
birthday, oh, pch, road trip. Beautiful and dropped shop. She
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high club member 50 to 80 He's got a long thing here used to
work this is going to maybe good stay a bit listening since the
beginning of the year I'm here first time donor like to donate
to show 777 which is my second favourite aircraft next to the
Boeing 717 I've never been on this one plan I've never been on
one either. No. I've ever seen one. But it could get I could
not get any money together make donations until now. I've been
unemployed since July. I used to work for AirTran airways then
got swallowed up by John's favourite airline the peanut
Express southwest like like peanuts would you like to
peanuts? No
no you get to it's peanuts or pretzels?
Yes choice a recently they have been very low on the pretzels.
And so I'm gonna explain again
what we dislike about peanuts on the plane.
Oh, well there's a number of things that could go on with a
couple my pet peeve first
of all, I do not like it when at the beginning of the flight you
hear
ladies and gentlemen because we have a passenger who is allergic
will be no peanuts on the plane. No peanuts on the plane.
Yeah, I've never had that side. Exactly. He has never held has
happened several times to me. Well, what I don't like is you
got these guys. And he is because people are all staring
forward kind of like putty and one of the Seinfeld episodes
just staring and blank looking ahead and they take the peanut
thing and then they dumped a peanuts in their hand. And then
they make a fist. And then they shake, shake, shake the fist,
then they punch themselves kind of in the mouth, and not in a no
agenda way but kind of in about the sideways they put and maybe
a peanut comes out and they chew on it. And then they shake,
shake, shake, and they pop they do it again. They pop themselves
in the face and get some peanuts out of the fistful of peanuts. I
don't know. But if I just find it so annoying to witness this.
That's what I don't like about the peanuts. Yeah. I mean, you
just want to say what are
you doing? Everybody is sitting to sit and listen to the show.
And I got oh crap, but everybody knows someone who does this.
Everyone knows someone who does it. Shake, shake, shake, shake,
shake, shake. Oh,
anvil, and then they have to wipe their hand. They wipe it on
their, on their trousers, goo
and all kinds of assault on their hands and then they and
then the worst part is something that really bugs me. Okay, so
you get people they get like a blip. I've seen this happens. I
really get irked when I see this at dinner.
Is this a screed or rant? This would be a rant. Okay.
screeds are usually fairly well structured rants are just what
did you know? They're just different. They're more
accurate. Well, thank you for the compliment. That wasn't a
compliment
you had, it seems to me when I say well structured it means you
were planning it now. Okay. So you got to salt or enhance or
you got to plate full of food. And so you, you can do this and
you'll rub your hands over the food.
I know if you ever seen this? Yes, of course. Of course. This
idea
what do you what are you talking all the dead skin and salt and
who knows what's in your hands. And it's all falling on the food
that you prepared for them to eat? And now it's contaminated
with God knows what. And it's just like and then.
So what do you do in a case like this? I call him out. Oh, I just
stand up and fart in their face. I think that's what
you do. Okay, anyway, that's my little gripe about the peanuts.
That's a great what is that? What do you want me to talk
about that my complaint? Yeah. Thank you. Brian Leslie in
Bremerton, Washington to do 150 And he says Merry Christmas. And
now we have $50 donors. And I'll read them in order. We're
already there. Charles bro Shetty and in Shan China, RBI,
Incheon, South Korea. And he says he's lived again Sean's
reclaimed. He says there's no fish in the streets and it's not
flooded.
We keep us up to speed on the fish in the streets for the
South Korean fish.
I will tell you and so far as the mudflats are concerned today
and it's been raining
Do you want it's what do you want to do an official report or
what do you want
to do official report this is outrageous. Okay,
hold on a second. I wasn't prepared for this. He's is
padding the section? Yeah.
Padding the sexual cause of what's happening in Greenland
right now. The maps of the world will have to be redrawn. Now.
This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay.
To see if we're drowning, yeah, John C. Dvorak. What do you see
out the window and
mud? This is the lowest The tide has been for. I think any show
we've ever done there is the mud flats or like there's like
hardly any water in there at all. It says though the oceans
have dropped a foot.
That doesn't sound possible. What about the rising oceans?
I don't know. I just mystifies me something's.
We're up to date on global warming.
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used to make a beer. Andrew Halverson in Gravenhurst or
Gravenhurst grey Robin Hurst I think it's in Canada. Michael
gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado. That's it. We're done.
Dams quick and easy. Dang 1234567 $50 donors. It's just
kind of low. We do have a few people that donated 25 bucks
that was wishes a happy even that is kind of a small number.
I was hoping to get some action from for just a merry Christmas.
Okay,
we'll we'll just plod on through Yeah, there will be something to
discuss. There always is something going on. It's not all
just retrospectives and year end lists, which is pretty much
love. So if you
have 25th deeds, and I know how these work, because nobody
really works during these last two weeks of the year, they
throw this crap together, if you will. If you critically watch
these best ofs, you always pull the hair out a year ago what how
did you leave out and you have your own favourite best stuff
that should be on the list.
I spent? Probably about 20 minutes last night I forget who
had they had everybody who died in 2015 157 people. Celebrities
not all celebrate. He's in like movie actors or, or scientists
know people you would know in general just about everybody and
there was quite a list. We lost a lot of good people.
Yeah, do you watch the whole thing?
That'd be it was just a slideshow. I was just clicking
through via seeing a new ads seeing a new ad with every
click.
What's cool about those slideshows when you have ad
blocker?
Yeah, they don't work. No, they do work. Not mine. Okay, maybe
they were like this.
You go click, click, click dead guy dead. Get click, click,
click, and then there's a blank page. That's what I'm doing.
Yeah. It's an ad. It's an ad Exactly. Click again. And your
company has more characters. Yeah,
we don't take ads on this programme, which is why we can
speak in the way we do and, and have
weekend like, for example. And this would have been a good lead
in for the segment, which I forgot about, but now she
mentioned it. We could for example, talk about LifeLock.
Really, and their 100 million dollars that was very
underreported. Oh, I don't know what their customers. Well, hold
on. Let's put that into the C Block after I do the birthdays.
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Yeah, that's okay. seem to care. It's okay. It's okay.
Okay, still my count,
hey, tell me about did someone because I think the promise with
LifeLock was, if your identity gets stolen, then we promise to
spend up to a million dollars on fixing it or
they spend whatever they have to show apparently. I'm not gonna
say I am not absolutely sure what their model might be the
business model, which might be just collect as much money as
you can. And if somebody gets their identity stolen, which
seems unlikely to a person that would be so conscientious as to
hire these guys to do this. So you probably won't get your
identity stolen. You just be throwing money at the company.
They have been fined or sued. Is it like a class action and the
government's going after him for like 100 million they got to
minute 100 million dollar companies not can afford this
for not doing anything? Because the only article showed up and I
think Seeking Alpha Man had a thing because it's this stock
market. Right. But now it's not covered because these guys have
been are used by everyone because their main marketing
technique was radio shows. You heard LifeLock stories on Rush
Limbaugh. I don't know if Michael Savage but they're all
the right wing guys use them and you have different most of the
podcasters you know, have gone through a lifelike moment. Yeah.
Yeah. And they don't we won't say anything. This is the reason
that we have to do the show the way we do it. We that's why
people do have to support the show with the you know, as
opposed to going to watch.
No one will report on no one will report on the things that
are messed up with the advertisers. Yeah, such as an
archer to Daniel Midlands and Burlington Northern and Boeing
and Raytheon. And these are all advertisers. Not on podcast, but
yeah, yeah. Hey, I've noticed something that's been popping up
in restaurants here in Austin. Austin is a great restaurant
town. What are the little beansprouts called you know,
just the little shoots with the little leaves on them that you
put kind of as a garnish on top of stuff.
Oh, yeah. That what is that does it pass say around here but it
does not
in In Europe we call it tau gay I think this little green,
little green
scone greens as well routes is called sprouts here, but not
being sprouted the Chinese bean sprouts. These are the little
green ones that you're talking about.
Yeah. And now in two different eateries here in Austin, they
present these and there's a great little restaurant called
Gardner on the east side farm to table and this is where I first
picked it up and these are fairly inexpensive places to
eat. You can get a reservation because they're small. And now
in that restaurant and I forget the other one, they present it's
like oh, we have here and the chef has made this and blue and
on top we have some nice micro greens, micro greens and they're
all using this micro greens and be on the lookout for this.
Well now I do mention it. A micro green is a tiny vegetable
green that is used both as a visual and flavour component of
ingredients primary in the dining restaurants, fine dining
restaurants, fine dining chefs use micro greens to enhance the
beauty taste and freshness of their dishes with these delicate
textures. This is something I'm not I'm just talking to my hat
but if I'm not mistaken they do sell these at the store the head
I'm thinking of Monterey foods here in the Berkeley area has
these you can buy them but but a handful I think and I think
there is a soap opera I believe them to be hydroponically. So
hydroponic thing, and therefore the you can call them million
calm with every one greens so you can grow them by the gross
load. Because it's just you know, there's no real nutrient.
It's just
it's like cardboard.
It's a green card just spraying this stuff out.
I'm waiting for someone to say they're micro veggies that I
would feel much better than Oh, micro veggies.
I'd walk out. Them look at related, sir. Here's related
searches micro green seeds, where you can do it yourself.
List of microgreens high high growth hydroponic greens, so
there's just that's what it is. How to grow microgreens as a
growing microgreens microgreens seeds, petite microgreens edible
flowers. Same thing. Microgreens Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just gonna call them micro veggies. Now on. You might as
well just take those back. I want micro veggies.
Okay, it looks like it's mostly amaranth, and arugula. Oh, some
basil. They've Yeah, good. We've grown micro basil. Alright. I
don't know if I was just a non said this is a lot. What can we
do? It's more like jack up the price. marketing is
marketing. Yeah, I don't know if you're ready, but I think I'll
try it anyway. Section. That's right now entering second half
of show. As you know, I do not. I'm never afraid to explore
areas that could put me into great ridicule.
great danger.
great danger, too. And I have a feeling that may be something
that and this is all just speculation. And who knows. This
flat Earth concept? Again, yeah, it's worth talking about AI. And
there's there's two parts to what I want to say. So this
really is I'm just seeing it everywhere. People are sending
me lots of information, then there's a number of not so much
that people can pollute, prove the earth is flat. But there are
a number of things that are tough to explain. That prove the
world is not flat. It's a smear or something else. And what I'm
disputing
else hold on a sec. You've introduced a new element here.
Yeah.
Oblique block. Oblique, oblique, oblique, oblique. Okay. Yeah,
this is actually Neil deGrasse. Tyson says oblique. He says that
the world is little fatter in the middle and we're kind of
like a squashed sphere. That's what he says. But the thing that
bothers me is, and I tried to look up the etymology could not
find it. I never really even considered any of this or wasn't
probably not even open if someone sent me an email about
Flat Earth. But for the past couple of years, it's been this.
Oops. That's not your that's neither one of those. It's
neither one of those. No, it's this one.
Nobody has a monopoly on what is a very hard problem. But I don't
have much patience for anyone who denies that this challenge
is real. We don't have time for a meeting of the flatter
society.
Now this is I think the first time in my life I've ever heard
that phrase as this a phrase that you are familiar with. It
sounds familiar, but I don't salutely But who, who used this
in recent memory, the Flat Earth Society? Well, saying we don't
have the time for a meeting of the Flat Earth Society.
That whole phrase, I don't know what the whole phrase well, that
I've heard a Flat Earth Society.
Right? I think it's, it's why does it come up all of a sudden?
i This in fact, flat earth people are aliens code there?
Well, I think it's triggering is what it is. I don't think flat
earth people are necessarily against climate change. In fact,
I've found a lot of evidence to the contrary. But here's two
questions I have for you.
Well, that's an interesting way to go. Did you know that most
Flat Earthers are all in on climate change? ipso facto,
ipso facto? Yeah. What's
that means? The answer is obvious now that that climate
change is bullcrap, just like the flat earth is.
Okay. Well, the curvature problem is the one that
interests me the most. Why are you doing that? Well, if if you
do the calculations, then because of the curvature of the
earth, you should not be able to see a lot of things. And the
most prominent example that is used is a lighthouse. And if you
look at the you know, after a six miles or so distance, you
should not be able to see a 70 foot Lighthouse because of the
curvature should drop it off more than 100 feet. And this is
a mathematical problem that that is being addressed. But no one
seems to be able to explain exactly what's happening and why
the rules, as we've been told, are not what we see.
Well, there's a lot of anomalies, atmospheric anomalies
a way you can see the lighthouse when you shouldn't be able to
see over the horizon. I mean, this is like those lights you
saw on whatever the name of that town, Marfa, Marfa, you know,
that's some current screwball anomaly too. I mean, these
things happen.
But they consistently people are trying to make the measurements
work as we're based on the circumference of the earth. And
the drop that you should have in the curvature of the earth and,
and the numbers just don't work out.
Maybe the numbers are wrong.
So the suckers circumference of the Earth numbers are wrong,
know, whatever numbers we're dealing with these guys, these
numbers are all pigeonhole numbers. I'm sure that plugging
these things and that could be all bogus. Have you talked to an
actual GE all now who do you want a god? Well, I'm bringing
it I'm gonna talk to you needed to go to the university over
there and talk to some by Well, I'm bringing up the moment
moment of insanity.
It's not insanity. I'm just asking questions in second half
of show where belongs?
Yes, well, I realise is in the right part of the show. There's
no doubt about that. But I'm hoping for more space aliens and
flying saucer, chit chat, as opposed to chit chat. I think
it's more interesting.
I think there's a lot of people who are questioning a lot of
smart people who are questioning this. And I think we have a lot
of smart people who can provide us with more information.
Okay, okay. No, it's good. I'm glad you're talking about this
again, you just it's, it's just,
look, it's just a simple question. No, why did why do
none of the calculations of the curvature of the earth work? Why
do they not work? Now? The second part is,
have you ever seen the moon when it comes up over the horizon?
I'm not going to play the game with you because I don't have
the answer. I'm talking about the curvature of the earth.
That's all I have a question about. I'm just trying to get
some answers because I'd be the first to scoff at people. But I
have some very serious mathematical questions. Which
I'm not good at. And you're just saying the numbers are screwy.
That's not much of an argument. Well,
I don't know. I don't have an argument I did that because I
think this is such a nonsense topic.
Do you know that there is no that there is no Lane just
single picture of the Earth from space that these are all
composites that NASA's pictures they admitted they admitted
they're all composites of the earth there is not there does
not exist a single picture like the one you always see. It is a
composite made of many different even from light data. This made
up it is not a true picture of the Earth. NASA says we can't do
that we can't take the picture would never look good. So we
make a composite which is there a
wide angle lens it
would be very difficult a wide angle lens from from from the
moon.
Well, the moon picture I don't know what the deal is with that,
but it seems sketchy.
It's just little things like that. All right.
Is that it? Well, I have a suggestion.
Yeah, There are many. seconds
leaving now leaving, leaving.
You don't have an exiting. I don't have
an exit. I'm sorry, you feel that way? Hey, there's some crap
going down in Poland that I want to talk about before it's too
late. Yeah. So first of all, here's the first report Poland,
the Polish are getting a little antsy about things and you can
understand kind of when your best. Your best ally who wants
to put ICBMs and all kinds of weapons in your country does not
allow you to be in the visa waiver programmes or poles are
still not allowed. Yeah, they're irked about this. They shouldn't
be irked about it. That's It's an outrage. We'll put some
missiles in your backyard. But you can't get a visa waiver.
You're not in the visa waiver programme. But the polish in
general are little bit disturbed about this new government which
we need to speak
for the second consecutive week 1000s of demonstrators have
taken to the streets of Poland cities to protest against the
New Conservative government. Since the Law and Justice Party
won the elections in October, critics have accused the new
regime of trying to neuter the Constitutional Court by
replacing judges, the attack on the Constitutional Court could
lead to a situation where there's no protection of
democracy, Poland will be in danger of dictatorship by the
majority, which is the simplest way to ordinary dictatorship.
The Law and Justice Party controls the Houses of
Parliament and the presidency, leaving the court as the only
effective check on its power. So critics, demonstrations
organised by a group called the committee for the defence of
democracy took place in 20. Cities.
Okay, so that last bit was a clue the committee for the
defence of democracies that seems to be connected to a
rather large US non governmental organisation, which is the
committee for what is it called when I just say it was this
something about the four democracies?
So again, then again, ending?
Sorry, hold on, what was that called?
The coalition of
groups active check on its power, say critics,
demonstrations, organised by a group called the committee for
the defence of democracy took place in 20. Cities,
yes, as the defence of democracies, and I just came in
this morning, I didn't have enough time to really go deep
into the NGO part. But usually, when you have a government in a
country that we have a little bit of issue with, when you get
people in line, then you know, then NGOs start to act up and
they start to, then we get all kinds of protests, what happens
to Egypt, what we do is what we do,
that's why the Russian has kicked NGOs out and
Exactly. wisely. Now the new government consists of
Kaczynski, the end, this is a I'm sure some some relation
somewhere to Ted. But these were the brothers and the other
brother, who was the President of Poland, you'll recall, he and
an entire plane of Polish government officials and elites
died in Russia. Yeah, they were murdered by the Russian
government.
They were murdered by the Russian government. Now, what is
but he knows this, so So now we have the brother of the murdered
Kaczynski. And he's making a lot of noise about the North Stream
to now as we know, Russia has a very tight relationship with
Germany, they already have the North Stream, a lot of gas flows
directly into Germany, they they are able to pump some of that.
They reverse and they pump it out to Europe, but this new one,
which is going to be a completely bypasses, Poland, now
there's a pipeline that goes right through Poland, right into
Germany, the Yamal pipeline, and denotes Oh, well, that's okay.
But, you know, of course, when the Russians see that US
interests are really racking up in Poland, they're gonna go
around, so it goes around Poland under the North Sea. That was
the gripe of the first Kaczynski. And now he the the
new Kaczynski is bringing this up in the EU parliament. And
he's making some very valid points that we need to keep our
eye on.
The commission has assessed that if not string to be constructed,
it will increase Europe's dependence on one supplier and
concentrate 80% of rational gas imports on one route, it would
also lead to dominant position of Gazprom on the German market
by increasing its share to over 60% In my perspective, not
string. That's not healthy diversification. Now, would it
reduce our energy dependency, but it is, of course for the
commission to conclude its technical and legal assessment
on whether or not it is in line with our conclusions today.
The I'd think not. So keep your eye on the cozying relationship
between Germany and Russia, and how Poland is being kept at bay
being kept out of this. And from an EU perspective, it's not a
nice thing that's being done. There's a direct pipe through
Poland. But everything's gonna be pumped through Germany now.
And
that's interesting. That makes up for your flatter stuff. I
haven't caught this at all. And I'm kind of annoyed by it.
I don't know what to say now. I mean, it's like it makes up for
my flat Earth stuff. Yeah. I
don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain. And
behind the curtain right now. Okay. You think that we're
behind the NGO? Yeah.
I think Russia
has Nuland visited.
That's what I have not, but I do not think she has been there
recently. But you don't know. I mean, you just don't know if
it's f the EU. Right. Then, if the EU, except for Germany, the
German is the only the only country that matters, really,
from a geopolitical standpoint. So we'll see. We'll see.
Everyone's trying to stop it. So you know, the, the turkey the
Turkish pipeline is now of course, because of the downing
of the Russian jet. That's a bit that's on hold the South Stream
through Hungary to buco has completely gone, we've seen that
come and go in our lives in art in the show's lifetime. And now
the North Stream, which people have died over is now coming to
fruition. And it's cutting a lot of people out Ukraine is of
course, obviously no longer necessary. And it's going to be
a big pipe, which will give Germany I think as maybe those
two USC actually who was talking not Kaczynski thing was to USC.
Yeah, he's in the EU. You know, it's going to give a
stranglehold, it'll be a Russian German stranglehold on Europe's
gas supply. So why are we behind it? Maybe. When something's
going on,
it's hard to follow some of this stuff.
I know. It boggles the mind.
It's like what No. Who's Why is it trying to turn into a
dictatorship in Poland monopoly?
owed in Poland? I don't know. I think I think Poland is really
just anti us right now and with some good reason.
And what's the point of that,
of being anti us no, of
being our US, not letting them and allowing them to have visas?
The theory? Like we've discussed this? Yeah, I know we have. But
it's like,
what did you want to hear the reasoning again? Yes. Is that
the Jews in Congress don't like the Polish Jews what they did in
the Second World War? Fuck them? No visa for you?
Oh, that's right. You did this before. I remember that. I
think there may be something to that. There could be a
possibility there
is a I know that monks would even when I was younger, I know
that the invite lived in Chicago when I was a little kid, no,
this this, this element came up. Because in Chicago during that
era, before it became the mix of cultures it is today. There was
no US Hispanics, for example, it was it was Jews, Polish and
blacks. It was three main ethnic groups in Chicago. And they had
their little enclaves. And but you'd run into you know, it
wasn't that the groups didn't mix. And you run into this back
then. You heard this at the poll polls during World War Two sold
the Jews out. And which is not necessarily true. I don't think
it's necessarily true, either. Yeah. And then there's been a
grudge ever since. And I think, yeah, there's probably an
element to that. Which is stupid.
Yeah. Well, it's not going to get any better with the visa
waiver programme under attack. And that will be my final for
today so we can get out on time. We have let me see, oh, this is
okay. I got two and a kicker. This will be good. Here we have
this a lot of talk they had was a big calm conversation, big
discussion about the visa waiver programme about changes that
need to be made. And then Senator Grassley took the floor
and talked about something that I guess I knew about, but of
course, I never really qualified but he said some interesting
things about another programme that we have ignored as an
entire country,
and omnibus Appropriation Bill was filed to keep government
operating for the remainder of this fiscal year. This fill
includes a straight and clean extension of a programme called
the EB five immigration waiver. The investor programme. This
programme has been plagued with fraud and abuse. But more
importantly, it poses significant national security
risk. Allegations suggesting the EB five programme may be
facilitating terrorist travel, economic espionage, money
laundering and investment fraud are two serious warnings against
this bill to ignore yet they're being ignored. The omnibus bill
then fails to include much needed reforms. The spending
bill being considered by the House and Senate, then, is a
major disappointment. I'm frustrated that despite the
alarm bells, and whistle blower warnings, warning us in Congress
about the EB five programme, Republican and Democrat
leadership in the House and Senate decided to simply extend
the programme. Without any changes. This was a missed
opportunity to protect America.
I'm pretty well versed in immigration do's and don'ts, the
certainly the don'ts in the United States, I have not heard
of the EB five visa programme. But you did some research I did
I have it right here. And this enables you to enter the United
States under a visa which you are an EB five visa, if you
adhere to the following, you will start a business in the
United States in which you will invest a minimum of $500,000 and
will create at least 10 jobs. That is that's all the
requirements there are. And as I'm reading through the
materials on this, and we I think we even discussed this a
while back there was I think there was like, like 40, Chinese
people showed up and they'd all put $500,000 into building some
mall and there was like some, like in East LA or, like some
corner, nothing was going on. But this is this is a here's a
backdoor for you. All you need is 500 grand, and then you say
you're going to create you don't have to have the 10 the
employees created at that point, but you have to promise that
maybe there's some follow through and checkup. This is a
pretty gaping hole. That's not a lot of money to come in as a
terrorist terrorist.
My My question is that why would you bother dropping $500,000 You
just sneaking through the Mexican border or you can come
in as a student or any of these things that are cheaper,
sometimes sounds like a waste of money. I the logic of this
eludes me the logic of getting rid of having to spend that much
money to be a terrorist.
Well, well, there was a lot of there was money laundering was
mentioned espionage was mentioned a lot of things that
were mentioned that
all this stuff because he's a he's a good like a paranoid
freak that guy Grassley? Yeah, well, there's no no, I'm not.
No, I don't like the this thing. It's like, if but there's
something else that we're doing this you can buy a citizenship
for the United States or something for some money.
Really? Yeah, something I was hearing about it. I know you can
do it in Canada. Yeah, I think you need a half a million or a
million or something so amount of money to get a Canadian
citizenship. Well, it just seems pretty.
In light of the recent visa conversation we've been having,
and about the vetting of people through social media, I you will
be very happy to hear this next clip, which will be my final one
for the weekend. Because you are right. And I know it feels
good. We don't know who said no. But we've obtained exclusively
breaking here on Morning, Joe for the first time, this 2011
memo from DHS customs basically outlining what everyone has
lately been calling for the review of social media,
Facebook, et cetera. For people who are applicants for the says
basically, you see it up on the screen.
In that memo focused on terror,
fraud, crime and national security, Joe and explicitly
said national security is one of the reasons that you'd want to
look at this at this time. We have a source of former senior
DHS official who said not only was this not done, but people in
the customs offices had firewalls preventing them from
even getting on the site. So this was an attempt to do this.
And this very memo that we've now obtained, published for the
first time went through layers of review went up the line a
year of reviews, it would authorise this type of access,
it would try to create this programme and it ultimately was
not adopted. I want to tell you one more thing. Sorry really
short,
let me stop you there. But you're telling us not only did
the administration say no to this proposal, to review social
media accounts for national security purposes. But they
actually enacted firewalls to prevent people from taking a
look at an applicant's social media pages Facebook pages
Twitter account
well we have sources to say those firewalls existed partly
to keep people from goofing off on the job yeah, nails it. Apple
Thank you.
Oh, it was great that that we have an official source back in
Yep. That's great.
It's great. That's a good that's a good catch. You're listening
to Morning Joe along with them view. Yeah, you know, I do. I
do. You ever shot yourself?
I do want to offset my flat Earth
ballistic gun into Buddha thing on the gun put the gun in his
safe.
You have so much faith in me is it's just touching
the air listen to the talk. Yeah. It's not as good. I agree.
And the real that's the one.
I don't think so. Cool. Yeah. And I gotta watch that in the
real world tonight. We know what you'll be watching.
Well, yeah, but probably then tape it. Tape and watch it
later. Maybe.
The good thing is we'll at least have a winner that we can
discuss. And it'll be
it'll be a right it'll be a geo geo political political winner.
And Russia is now my target.
I'm still calling Spain.
Spain seems like a long shot. I can't think of anything else
though.
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My question is since we're spending all this money, where
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can shoot in your mouth to government children is somebody
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