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It's Thursday, December 3 2015. time once again for your gizmo
nation media assassination episode 778.
This is no agenda.
A new month with new normals a new reality skirting your sanity
and broadcasting live from the Capitol to drone stars day here
in Austin, Texas. Morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where is predicted to have 100%
of rain? And it's sunny. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Raglan Buzzkill.
Always good to have a weather report on the AIDS.
You know, so they had on Monday, there was just we got a front
coming in or something. So they said 100% chance of rain. And
last night they said be raining. It's sunny. Yeah. They messed it
up. I don't understand it. They
can't get the weather right. You can count on it. You can't count
on anybody. You just can't count on anybody. Oh, man, I hate it
when that happens.
Well, there's a lot going on, but it's all about one thing.
It's all about one thing.
I don't know most of me we had to cop thing go out. There's a
couple of one one couple. You know,
before we even start, John. You know what it's time for?
It's time for the monthly review of Obama's special days. Now
it's time for our podcast Content Trigger Warning, of
course. Oh, yes. I'm sorry.
The following podcast contains a satanic message. Shaquille
O'Neal is moving this year. So with news new and
new listener discretion is advised. There
you go. We're all good to go.
Did you play that? What did he say? Well,
it's a satanic message. I can't Yeah, but
it's dead. But everyone knows satanic messages can be
understood if they're played backwards. Do
you want me to play it backwards for you? Yeah.
Don't be a douche bag. knives to the no agenda podcast. Or Satan
will give you a leaky
Thank goodness. You walked right into it?
Wasn't that the idea? Yeah, of
course it was. Ah.
Oh, I'm through.
You leaving in disgust?
I barely there was a shooting. Yeah,
I heard about it. No, it was better than this yesterday.
John, the sheelane. I had a quick little Skype thing which
is funny by itself that the three of us will get on Skype.
It happens once every three years. And the meeting is like
yeah, Eric, tell us what to do. Okay, good. See you later. And
then John said, Hey, Adam, the view you haven't heard about
this shooting thing, have you? I'm like, Well, how can I avoid
it? I've got the 6000 new news feeds 500 television channels
like Oh, drat. Like, why did you find something? Did you have
some big expos. A you're wanting to roll out on us? Yeah, no. Oh,
well, let's let's get to how the BBC categorises. There's been a
lot. This is a great time for media deconstruction.
Well, and there's a couple of things I've come up with at
least three or four insights. As part of the standard, you know,
let's ban guns that Omni.
Well, here's the here's the first here's the first test and
this is being played this morning on CNN. I saw it on
MSNBC. It's out on the webs. And it's a I believe it's intended
to shame us, which as you know, I'm not a fan of shaming in any
way. It is meant to shame us into just shame us for being
Americans, basically, right now
on that stretcher. Just another day in the United States of
America. Another day of gunfire, panic and fear. This time in the
city of San Bernardino in California, but a civic building
was apparently under attack.
The the news channels are playing this going like everyone
thinks we're douchebags. We're horrible.
That's good. I like the way he says San Bernardino, San
Bernardino. Yes, San Bernardino. Okay, so this is just
another day in the life of America before
we get started this is visit there's a couple of things that
really bothered me when it gets so we had two shootings, really?
Brothers, probably more but we had two that made the news just
before the San Bernardino. We had the Colorado Springs was in
Colorado Springs. Yeah, Colorado Springs shooting in about near
Planned Parenthood. What I find interesting is that that quite
quickly, and I'm sure we'll get to it later on. In fact, we have
To that quite quite quickly was sidled up as well, you know,
obviously this guy is, you know, he's a nut job who's been
inspired by the rhetoric from Republican candidates, and he's
gone nuts. And he just went wacky over it. And we know that
for sure, because we heard some unnamed source claim that a law
enforcement officer heard the guy mutter something under his
breath like
this is baby parts. But everyone accepts that it is true, it has
never been confirmed. But when it comes to the San Bernardino
shooting, there's a lot of apprehension to say, well, let
me think about this seems like the guy's the guy, the lady,
whoever was involved. It seems like they might be terrorists,
if you look at all the evidence, if you look at all the pieces
put together. But they're not saying that no one will come out
and say, Oh, this is obviously terrorism.
No, not terrorists about gun control. This isn't well, it
does happen is because guns are too easily available. Well, I'm
just gonna stay on this tip for a second. Why is it that could
you okay, I'll give you my quick summary of what I think might
have happened. And then I got to work backwards and I want to
hear your deconstruction where you have going. This probably
was some form of radicalised sell whoever radicalises them,
whoever, whatever they're from is unimportant. I think what may
have happened is there was an operation planned. And then this
guy went to his office party, it'd be gotten to some kind of
fight and he went back home and said, Let's go, let's go kick
these motherfuckers ask now. I'm sick and tired of these bronies.
And it was a terrorist setup. And I based that on a strange
press conference by the brother in law of this dude. Saeed
Farooq. Yeah. Which was staged by care. Everybody's in care.
Yeah, the Council on American Islamic Relations here is his
speech.
I mean, I I'm, I'm really here on behalf of my family, to for
the victims. It's unbelievable what happened. I am very sad,
like, deeply sad and shocked that something like this
happened here in my community. I love this country. I'm living in
this community for a long time. It's something like this
happened here. And on behalf of my family, we all are shocked
and very sorry for what happened. I mean, you know, we
all are just completely shocked. We have no idea something this
could have shocked us. You know, and that's exactly why I'm here
to tell all of you on behalf of my family that how sad we are,
how sad we are two people lost somebody lost husband and wife.
And
he goes on and on and on. So just care staging, that is a red
flag for me. Yes. And then I love this.
By the way, I want to back you up a little bit, because the
concept that these guys were in his cell ready to do some damage
at some point. And they just decided to go off script. Well,
the
President, the President actually categorises it
differently. Did you hear it? No, you probably didn't finish
your thought on this trip?
Well, I was just gonna say they went off script. And that's why
Kerry had to jump in and do all kinds of damage control, damage
control, press release, the press conference, here's
the President with fantasies of glory, who are very savvy when
it comes to social media, and are able to infiltrate the minds
of not just Iraqis or Syrians, but disaffected individuals
around the world. And when they activate those individuals,
those individuals can do a lot of damage. What
is his Manchurian Candidate time?
When was this that because that wasn't recent? No, this
was about a week ago.
Because if you want to hear what he has to say about this,
slightly a different story he has.
I think this is very good. Oh, by the way, by the way, yes. By
the the already complaints in the chat room, saying we were
all laying on Sandy Hook being fake, but now we're all in and
everything being real. No, no, I would say we're just
deconstructing what we have.
Yeah, we're just telling it like it is. We don't have any bone
debate girl dog in the hunt. You know, now. This is this morning.
That's how much work I do. Well, you did prep. Because I know No,
I got this clip this morning. Okay. The because I knew from
the CBS reports last night that Norah O'Donnell was scheduled to
have a meeting and do an interview with Obama. Okay,
while the shooting was in progress. Nora works for what
outfit? She is at the Good morning. Good morning show with
Charlie Rose. Nora is the good looking woman. Yeah, she's got a
lot to say no,
but she's good looking.
She is she's very I think she's a pretty to the group. And so
she's in there with Obama. Here's the intro into it. And
this is the all this all it's about,
well describe what he sees as America's biggest challenges.
Congress is on the new pressure to act to prevent mass
shootings, before travelling to California nor spoke to
President Obama at the White House, the President said there
are things that can be done to stop these attacks.
We have a pattern now of of mass shootings in this country that
has no parallel anywhere else in the world. And really some steps
we could take not what happened to Paris, eliminate every one of
these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don't
happen as frequently common sense gun safety laws, stronger
background checks. And for those who are concerned about
terrorism, some may be aware of the fact that we have a no fly
list where people can't get on planes. But those same people
who we don't allow to fly could go into a store right now in the
United States and buy a firearm and there's nothing that we can
do to stop them. That's a law that needs to be changed.
Well, as the show goes on, I'll play some clips of from this
particular episode that happened this morning. Charlie Rose all
in on with the president. The president says indeed, that they
bring Paul Ryan on before Charlie,
before you move on, John, that what he said there is
interesting for a different reason a producer sent me I'm
looking forward. Apparently, a law was either just introduced
or passed in the House, I'm going to look for it. And it
will somehow link if you have a concealed carry permit, and you
are precheck or clear or any of these other items that will be
now annotated on your precheck information, which of course, is
probably illegal. Because it's tracking. Yeah,
as this episode continued, the two of them. Gail, Oprah's
friend, and Charlie Rose jumped all over Paul Ryan about these
topics. And Charlie comes actually this product. I don't
want to get into this right now. But since I mentioned, like
meeting
anyone on terminal if you don't want to get into it,
I just want to say a couple of things. Okay, just to get this
my side of this thing. Of course, the one thing to note
was Obama's concept, besides this bull crap about the no fly
zone thing, which is an illegal list by Ryan points out no fly
list. the no fly list. Sorry. Is Obama's mentioned of frequency?
Yes. I believe that this was the the the note that the six week
cycle is long over that didn't produce the results intended. We
are going to do one of these things once a week, once every
two weeks till people get a clue. Yeah. I'm going to pass
gun laws of some sort. And while I am President, the emphasis
over and over again, when Obama spoke and then throughout all
these other presentations, where it was about frequency. Yeah.
And in fact, even when Gail comes up, she brings out this
frequency issue. The frequency issue is is the main thing
they're promoting right now. And they're going to show they're
going to prove it to us by creating frequency. Okay, do you
have a clip? Well, I guess I have to go back to these clips
again. Let's start with the unanswered Charlie Rose credit.
I'm gonna let me get these clips out of the way. Okay. Let's see.
What do we have? Charlie? Rose of Charlie one. gearing, Charlie
One, Charlie. One gearing up now. This is Charlie get theirs.
This is just Charlie. I don't I didn't leave Paul Ryan's stuff
in because I'll answer the Paul Ryan question because it took
them two minutes. But Charlie, do you have to go to the very
beginning?
Did you miss the Gail? The Gail and Paul Ryan clip? Do we need
to play that first?
No, no, that comes after. Okay. All right. Because the first
thing that happened and then I knew it was I knew the battle
was on I said, Oh, maybe I should just push your show off
half an hour listen to this crap. But Charlie gears up and
he's and he's building up a head of steam and he starts off by by
girding his loins, and you can hear it very at the very
beginning. What is the definition of girding your loins
is just a phrase Okay, good, but he's getting getting geared up
and you could hear at the beginning where his boy and he
gets himself ready and you can hear it in this clip and we're
getting himself ready. And then he goes right after Ryan because
he's that lousy Republican.
Speaker Paul Ryan is with us now from Capitol Hill, Mr. Speaker,
good morning.
Good morning, Charlie. Again, thanks.
Hello, Uncle Paul Ryan is with us now from Capitol Hill. Mr.
Speaker, good morning. Morning. Morning. Good. That was a slur.
The community is grieving, as you know, in a nation is asking
questions about why, and how do we save this? And we want to
hear from you on that. But why don't you after you make your
speech today called the President's Day, I'm gonna come
down Pennsylvania Avenue. Let's you and I start off and do
something about this right now. Speaker of the House, you're
president. You're in your fourth or fourth quarter, and I'm in
the beginning of my job as speaker.
But a loaded question. Yeah, his answer was we don't even really
know what happened. Can we wait till the damn investigation? So
we have the bodies out of the building? They were the bodies
were still in the building last night at midnight when I was
watching.
Well, that's one report.
That was that was the police chief at 10. Past midnight, my
time so 1010 1010 Everybody in San Bernardino, we got 80
degrees. It was that's when he said he said we we have not even
gotten the bodies out yet. That's what he said.
Well, that's kind of I know, I didn't get that
one. But you know what, you know what's going to happen next
year, I guarantee within one year this facility is gonna be
burnt to the ground. That's right. They're gonna destroy
demolish it just like Sandy Hook.
Where the bodies are is another issue. Let's the because some of
them were taken to one hospital, some take it to another. I have
some clips on that. Where there's bad and there was a
triage set up and then if the bodies are still in the
building, why didn't they keep the triage during the tour?
False flag.
Yeah, well, that's another problem that did the hoax. The
guys are out there. They're pulling out small minut details
and calling everything a hoax and a false flag. It's not it's
not helping anybody. So let's go on Charlie two. So Charlie's
still worked up. He had that big snort at the beginnings right
again. So Ryan answers with a very calm answer and training
because he knows he's in for it. So here's Charlie, Charlie, to
within Brian actually responses to
the mental health issue, which we know is a common theme among
these shootings. And that's something bigger now.
I suspect a lot of people would agree with you on that most
people with theories on that. But here's what the President
said. And the reason I suggested that might be a conversation
between you and the President. He said, we have a no fly list
where people can't get on plane. But the same people who we do
not like we did not allowed to fly could get into a store right
now in the United States and buy a firearm, and there's nothing
we can do to stop.
Well, on this particular issue. We do have a constitution,
citizens have a due process rights and anyone can just be
arbitrarily placed upon the no fly list. In fact, that's
happened quite a bit people have been placed on the no fly list
mistakingly innocently. So we need to respect to process so
when we rushed to act on these things, let's make sure that we
we act accordingly. Let's make sure that we act according to
citizens rights to constitution. Oh, and make let's make sure
that what we do actually solves these problems. So that is why I
think we need to take a pause and see what's happening. This
is why we're working on mental health already.
So he's got his mental health thing he sees things too. And I
noticed that Charlie said get on plane as he just does European
thing sneaking it like go to hospital I think sounds in
hospital.
It's the BBC. That's their influence. Everybody wants to be
like the BBC, because they're so get on a plane, get on plane,
get onto Gale.
So they start to get into it. And even here's Gail going off
on it because she has like shaken and she's like nervous.
She's worried sick, that someone's going to rush into the
studio and shooter.
What does it take to move the needle in Congress? I guess it's
a frustration feel.
But that's what I'm just trying to say, Gail, what we're trying
to do is find out the facts and make sure that what our response
is actually addressing the problems without without
infringing upon the rights of law abiding citizens. That's the
key here, Gail, but it keeps happening. It keeps happening.
They also have citizens who have rights to be protected. And
again, Gail, one of the common themes here, this is why we're
really serious about our mental health legislation. Yes, because
a lot of these people are getting guns, who are mentally
unstable, who were who should not be getting guns. And this is
a gap in our laws that we feel needs to be filled. Look, if
you're not outraged when you turn on the TV and see the
shootings, there's something wrong with you. And so we just
want to get it right, Gail. And we want to make sure that we
don't violate a person's rights if they're a law abiding
citizen.
But can I just say this to a mass shooting is described as
four or more victims, according to shooting tracker.com Just the
fact that we have a shooting tracker.com I think speaks
volumes. Since January, there have been at least 354 mass
shootings in this country. You must be frustrated as well.
Yeah, I am deal. That's why. Again, I don't want to keep
saying the same thing over and over. Yeah, but one of the
things we've noticed there are mental health issues here.
A gentleman should question because it's okay when they when
there's comparison between statistics, you know, there are
so many People in the United States, X amount are killed by
gunfire. But when you say the frequency is higher, isn't that
directly proportionate to how many people there are it?
Shouldn't you say the percentage the frequency by percentage is
it's just now a creepy numbers game that's being played.
It's a creepy numbers game that's being played. Okay.
That's what I thought. Because the idea here is to is to for
Obama to get this gun legislation through by hook or
crook. And right the way the way that you had an entre man, I
want you to play it because I there's another issue besides
this this obvious what they're gonna do is step up the
frequency of these events.
Well, I had I'll do three quickies or so you had Gail
freaking out. Matt Lauer was doing a pretty good, good job
over there on the Today Show
on NBC is justice correspondent Pete Williams. He's been talking
to his law enforcement sources throughout the night. And Pete,
what are you hearing?
Well, they say that they still don't know what led site for
Rocha and his wife to carry out such a brutal and deadly attack
Matt authority say it was clearly well planned. Not only
were the two heavily armed they also had prepared and brought
some homemade bombs. At least three of those devices have been
found, though none of them apparently would often the
attack. Federal officials say a check of Customs and Border
Protection record shows that Farukh recently travelled to
Saudi Arabia. But authorities believe at this point that trip
was a religious one. The highs are the pilgrimage. Muslims are
required to make at one point during their lives. But as for
the motive, investigators say they look to the couple's
computers and other electronic devices looking for clues
they'll carefully examine for rwcs employment records. They'll
talk to his co workers to see if that can shed any light. The
authorities say some people who knew for real told him his
personality began to change six months ago. But this morning
investigators cannot say what this attack was. Was it a
workplace dispute that's been so strangely out of control? Was it
jihadist inspired terrorism? Or was it some combination of the
two? Math? Yeah, but Pete and Pete, I've known you for years
and years, you're one of the most careful journalists I've
ever met.
Careful journalist. What does that even mean? Careful. You
have to think that
at this moment, it's looking less and less like any kind of
simple workplace dispute and more and more like the nightmare
we've all been fearing someone blending into our society,
carefully plotting. Nightmare. Certainly does that. And that is
why I think that there is so much puzzled by trying to find
an explanation. They can't interview the people who were
involved in the shooting. Both of the gunmen are dead, the man
and the woman. Yeah, I'm
sorry. Trigger warning. I have a problem. It is gun persons. I
can hear gun men if there's a woman involved. That's gun
persons. I'm sorry, trigger warning. So
now they have to see if there's some other indication, did they
leave some message on social media? Is there something in
their computers, no one that they've talked to yet can can
give an explanation.
I also think man hunt is wrong and cannot bet should be a
person hunt. very disturbed but very disturbed by these things.
I bet you're over on CNN. They brought it they were so out of
ideas. They brought in CNN with great Casey Jordan, who is a
criminologist. But she seems more like a gypsy fortune
teller,
disgruntled employee, they can have Arabic or Middle Eastern
names as well. But the key is that from the beginning,
everything that was reported about him going into this
conference room, where it was a holiday party, which may have
been offensive to him, it may
have been offensive to him, oh, trigger warning, please, worth
celebrating a holiday which might have chosen religious over
undertones, then you should have a disclaimer. So please, if
you're if you're jihadi, don't get all upset about this.
Bottom line is the motivation always appear to be intrinsic,
not extrinsic.
Intrinsic, what is extrinsic. From from the outside, he
prepared for this he didn't you know, it's almost like he was
looking for an excuse to go get the guns get the female getaway
driver, you know, put on his fatigues and let it look like
terrorism. So I'm in total agreement. Like terrorism and
disgruntled employee can be a mash up this can be in
terror mash up everybody.
But there was a dead term. No, no,
it's back. It's the terror to live see if she gives it a
fault. I think terror masks
that terrorism and disgruntled employee can be a mash up. This
can be an amalgam of both
an amalgam of both it's Masha, Masha, Masha,
but I really do think his motive was very intrinsic. It was
personal. It was about a grudge, grudge and it looks like
terrorism. And he might like that, but it isn't what it was
about.
Oh, no,
it wasn't what is it about? Let's
go back to Matt Lauer and get fear put into us.
It's just talking to Pete Williams in Washington. Our
justice correspondent already hard you waking up today to the
fear In fact, there may have been a cell albeit a small cell
living in plain sight in your community.
Again, Matt, this is an active investigation leaving that up to
the law enforcement to make sure that they conduct it when we
find out more information from them they will be releasing that
information. Mm hmm
it's an active investigation of what the people are dead I
always say what you want well we don't want to ruin the case. We
don't want the jury to be turned and by the way, I want to
mention something before I forget because I've been wanting
to save this for a while people always wonder why you know they
get these two guys who have been great to capture them
Yeah, Why kill them?
Well,
I was thinking and it's not guys trigger warning people it's
people well guys
is actually willing to refer to women as guys to try those good
try sixes pig don't
make me occupy your studio man. You're hurt my feelings as a
guy.
The cops over time have decided and I think this is the same
reason we use drone strikes to instead of picking people up
right, kill us kill them kill you if you injure them or if
you're like a wing of oh, why did they shoot him in the legs
and it stopped them? No, no, no, you should cut you're a cop. You
shoot somebody in the leg? Because he's coming at you with
a knife and you don't want to you know kill him so you shoot
him in the leg? He goes down. The ambulance takes him in he
sues you sues you he says the city for being shot in the leg.
That's right. You don't get sued by a dead man. No, we must arm
them, bomb them and bomb them
again we need to kill them.
This is the this is the part of the this is a problem with the
judicial if a guy is coming at you with a knife and you shoot
him in the leg and he brings a lawsuit for injury because you
shot him in the leg that a judge a smart and any normal judge and
in normal systems just just throw the case out but know that
you bunch of lawyers present a bunch of papers to a bunch of
judges many elected they don't know anything about the law and
they say I you know go through I don't want to deal with this.
Yeah, we'll start a job we'll do a jury trial. So you know the
cops have gotten a clue because they get in too much trouble so
they shoot the guy kill him. And then he and by the way, and they
also have a rationality say think of the millions and
millions of dollars in taxpayer will say just kill them would
have been wasted on this trial.
I always have to admire the the optics of something like this
black SUV, you know, military grade weaponry, fatigues, you
know, bulletproof vests, body armour with all the things that
are being silly. Yeah, that, you know, who does that Blackwater Z
feds, not jihadist but okay, fine. Ben, of course, as always,
we're looking for one thing when something like this happens, and
the reports came out very quickly,
that, but again, we can tell you that the President has been
briefed on what is a mass casualty and mass shooter
situation happening now in San Bernardino, California. The
police were able to move in very quickly, according to local
media reports.
Record this.
This was caught by someone this wasn't Oh, yeah. So sorry for
the quality. Can you understand it? Can you see that juice?
Barely. But
you know, California, and police were able to move in very
quickly. According to local media reports. Part of the
reason for that is very nearby, there was a police training
exercise which was underway. So this call for help goes out
immediately. And very quickly, a large number of first responders
were on scene. Coincidence, I think Matt will share many
people who were there today. So
they thought this was just some kind of routine training dough
when they would deal when they saw all these police coming into
the building. And there did happen to be a training exercise
close to the area SWAT team training exercise, we're told,
and that's why so many of these officers were able to make it to
the scene so quickly. However,
that's great. That's just great.
Whenever you're going to use those clips, I want you to play
this one. Okay. This is the woman who stayed at home
discussing the cameras and the drills on CNN and then I have a
comment after this
that tectors Anything like that? No, no middle. Do you have any
any say I understand that there were alarms going off and that
there were drills I was hearing from from a father whose
daughter works in the building, but you all have been going
through drills and I don't know if it was in a case like this or
for something else. But is that the case?
We always do we're I mean we're they're very, very good about
staying on top of you know, fire drills. We do have what we call
active shooter training. You do we only do Yeah, when did that
begin? It started last year. Last year, and I do think that
they were starting now, you know, going through the rounds
now with that training,
so active shooter training happening at your workplace. And
here we have potentially three active shooters at lunchtime on
what should have been a normal day. What about cameras in your
building? Kristen, do you have cameras throughout your
workplace? I don't. I don't know. I don't know. People are
thinking
cameras. I don't really know. Okay,
now what I got a kick out as the CNN Woman This is Brooke or
whatever her name is. Yeah. Brooke. She says, Oh, you've had
active shooter during that so it's not as though this is like
a scam. It's Oh, that's so great than you wouldn't be prepared
when these three guys showed up. Yeah, I mean, I just loved their
take on it. You have a no agenda take on everything which
indicates scepticism Are you going to have this all in hook
in the mouth being dragged to the shore by a fisherman but you
know Brooke is cute. She never showed her face wants to know
it's very very familiar with Brooke she's cute so let's Where
were you going to be on this let's go stay with CNN and boom
guy and CNN lifting coverage this is a good one
manatee have left have left in a black SUV.
What you're doing on my beat Doric? CNNs my beat man what you
doing?
You were you were doing other stuff.
Also, according to sources, they were using long rifles. Here's
more sound
the Senator that was just walking down and this lady and a
couple others heard shots and I heard from over there but then I
started walking and all sudden I got into chaos and who knows it
just buh buh buh buh you know I'm just right Wow right in the
middle. And she was right here behind the building. And so
we're waiting for the bus. That's how I transplants I have
a brain disorder so I can't I can't dry so yeah, it's kind of
scary. Your phone number into my phone
hold on for one second. Yeah.
Plug into my phone. Listen to this groovy Madonna track all
right,
it's okay. Shots okay
you don't know
okay hold on for one
second we're going to interfere so local reporters were dipping
in and out of their coverage they just want to be
healing your material brain damage and keep showing up a
different reports Yeah, it's great. So here's the one that
really got this I thought was one of the best ones. This is
dad best local report is another local report a different one.
This is the guy with the Freemasons cap on
No. Love that guy. But I didn't get a clip from him. No,
he he was oh, he's the one that was texting his son who was
inside
alright, then they recently get a clip because they had him on
the mic and it was like he was
boring. He was boring. But the hat was was fantastic. And on
the subreddit, the Freemason subreddit there was a posting
like looks like bro I think his name is Lucas or somebody like
brother Lucas has been showing himself and said said
circumstances or something like that. It's like but of all
things to put on television of all things. If I've never even
seen one of those Freemasons had I want one. That's a dynamite
hat. I want one of those. That's great.
All right. Here's dad. Is my favourite. Yeah. What do you
say? Do you some tag? She did
what are you recording this with a microphone.
Shooting at my work people shot in office waiting for cops. Pray
for us.
Are you just making fun John? Making fun of these b No,
no. This is an important clip. This is was this is this dad
best local report. onr
Oh, I'm sorry. That's the wrong way. You know? Hey, it says Dad.
It says Dad daughter Techspray for us.
No, I went dad best
chips inside the building. I talked to the police. There are
casualties.
Let your daughter tell you.
She told me that they were. She thought it was a drill. Because
they've been practising drills. They went outside. They were
told to go back in into a room. Police showed up. They were
taken outside. Thank God. There weren't more casualties. Did she
text or call her? She did she's out side with the fire
department right now, to text you earlier, they just text me
right now.
And what did she tell you about what she saw and what she heard?
Well,
she she wasn't too clear she was she's shaken up. And I did ask
the police lady and she said that there were some casualties.
What did she see?
She I haven't talked to her about about that. She's pretty
shaken up.
All right. All right now we played you already played by the
way, it should have been the kicker to this, which is the dad
daughter, pray for me. I apologise. While ridiculing this
sound quality, which was right from the stream. The what I'm
trying to point out here is that this is all dad daughter, there
was lots of dead daughter. It was my daughter's in there. My
daughter's in there. One of the clips is my daughter was in
there. And this guy over here, my buddy his daughter's in
there. This is part of the scheme to scare the bejesus out
of out of people about gun control. But they've given up
they've already gotten the women on their side, women are already
frightened. They're frightened to death. So Let's scare the
dads who have daughters, the daughters or their prey. And by
the way, that guy with the pray for one clip, pray for us clip.
There were numerous people that said that very first texted and
said Pray for us. Yes. Why was everyone how many people were
texting and there's all shit going on in your writing. Pray
for it.
In fact, the the dad with the son, which was an anomaly, the
guy with the with the Masons had. He even showed his text
that said, Pray for us. So he said it to? Yes. And it's
interesting. You bring that up? Because I just read somewhere. I
think it might have been what it was, I don't know if it was a
Republican candidate. Someone was talking about Mitt Romney.
And it. I'm not sure who it was. Maybe it was fearing, as someone
said, the reason why Romney had no chance is because he doesn't
have any daughters. And that just just stuck in my mind and
thinking, Oh, that's interesting. And now you bring
this up how the daughter meme is being used. Very interesting.
The
dollar means being used to an extreme. And then there was
this, and this is the CNN my loved one is safe clip. Nobody
says this. The guy's about to say his daughter, but he amps it
up a notch as though it was rehearsed. disabilities
while they coordinate bus rides, and they coordinate bus rides.
And yeah, that was it for disability, people with
disabilities.
And from what you know, you're my daughter,
and my loved one is safe. And this is crazy. There's just too
many shootings, too much bad stuff going on here.
You hear about it, but
too much bad stuff. The shootings are happening far too
often. What seems to make this different shootings we've been
covering is the fact that there are three According to police,
three different shooters or suspects.
Yeah, I'll hook right into that. Another interesting little
tidbit was last night, this thing that I saw a little after
midnight, my time, the police chief, not once but twice read
the names of the two deceased apparent actors and spelled
their names. This is highly unusual. This is not something I
seen during a police press conference that usually comes
it's either leaked out or comes much later when there's there is
official word but and he spelled them out. And this in this
girlfriend, this woman seems to be a ghost. There's there's a
stack who has access to all kinds of databases could not
find her in any database. So that's troubling. And there's
something else that's new in this round. And it started a
little bit with the Planned Parenthood apparent Planned
Parenthood shooting. And I don't understand why this hasn't been
going on for far longer. We're now playing scanner, we're
playing the police radio. And this baffles me shifted this.
Yes, it well, everyone was doing it and it baffles me. So last
night, you know, again, I'm hearing things from the scanner.
So I I tuned in here Well, I tuned into the San Bernardino,
there are a couple of different disorders. It's all streamed,
although it's another it's also baffling that if you're going
after terrorists, and you're just broadcasting out on open
unencrypted analogue police
channels that you can listen to in Austin.
Yeah, I mean, and they were giving positions there, in fact,
and it was it was it was so nutty. So this is a new, a new
version of how they're going to be doing these types of
operations. And you cannot tell me that this is normal, that you
have this type of situation where it could be terrorism or
active shooter or whatever you want to call it, and you're just
broadcasting every a manhunt, you're broadcasting it in the
clear where you are what you're doing. So at eight o'clock, I'm
watching CNN, and I'm hearing on the scanner. I'm hearing we have
an IED we found an IED. We're moving back 50 yards that didn't
show up on CNN until midnight. So there's something very
strange about the reporting and adding in police radio with you,
which of course is not proof of anything. It's just a sound
file, who the hell knows where the what's going on or where
it's coming from or what's being said, but it is a new part of
the reporting. So we can get that extra fear element and
something Oh, and then I heard I heard that I should have I
couldn't record it, actually. But then I heard Yeah, we're
gonna make way for the DoD guys. Like really DOD. And I don't
know if DoD means something different. It could be local.
But if you listen to the news reports, everybody's stumbling
over the same obvious thing of ambulances fire trucks. Yeah,
this is recorded with a microphone button. And you
can see some of the unmarked cars that are going through,
they shut it off. Obviously, for anybody like us or our locals.
We're moving out of the way to let people buy in fact, as we
turn the corner here, you can see a massive police presence
here.
Oops, massive military presence is what he wanted to say. But he
said police presence, okay, and as you
can see, they have botched him in with large tactical units,
similar to the Bearcat that was used in Colorado Springs,
heavily armoured vehicles, with government at various positions,
safe positions around those vehicles and now a tactical unit
is making an approach with multiple soldiers of I shouldn't
say soldiers multiple multiple police officers it's
okay you can say soldiers because that's what they look
like. This is almost now being
reminds me of a clip I don't think I took it let me see if I
have it. But there was a kid this was on I got this off
online. It could have been a kid
it could have been Bo D or something like bomb ordnance
disposal. That's probably what it was. But still, but still
you're hearing the news reports talking about military it'd be
soldiers. Yeah, but you cannot deny that's what it looks like.
There was a I didn't. Anyway, I'll give you the clip. Guy a
kid with his sunglasses. I was sitting on his on his hood in a
traffic jam. At the point where they shot at the area where they
shot the shot up the Ford Explorer. It was what
it looked like at Denali. Denali
I was at a Denali was a Yukon. No, it wasn't this what they
kept reporting, but as you look at it, it wasn't a Yukon Yukon,
a huge whatever it was, they shot it up. And this kid sitting
there he says, yeah, he's just yeah, they told us. We had to
turn around he says to Who told you to turn wrenches that
detective and he pointed at someone they never turn the
camera on and the guy the reporter goes, that's a
detective. I'm wondered will show us this guy me? Was he in a
military uniform? Was he in plain clothes? Was he in jogging
uniform? I have no idea. But I just the way the guy responded
was just like, wow, that's kind of interesting. I want to stick
with just what couple more questions I collect them more of
this daughter emphasis. Here's another one. This is the another
this is another daughter who saw nothing. This is the clip
another daughter saw nothing.
That someone had come in and started shooting. And they ran
into an office and she's hiding with some other people. And our
friend's daughter's in there too. And she texted me so
they're both hiding. And that's all I know. She's still hearing
gunshots and she didn't say anything about gunshots. But
someone I think must have told her because she never said she
heard gunshots but somehow she knew that she said 10 to 20
people were shot.
Yeah, she's near anything. But it's 10 This morning I did death
Yeah, they also had a number I have one clip but I don't think
it's necessary to play of the dads with their daughters again
dad and daughter and they got the dad is in tears. I'm telling
you this is was outrageous, outrageous propaganda. Dads in
tears because Oh, I'm so glad my my daughter is safe. And I'm
thinking well, why are we is there no buddy but it sounds
like that place is filled with young women. It's a great place
to work.
Well I like your analysis that this is we're now going to focus
on frequency and of course that is a a bogus number unless
presented in the context of scale, and, and percentages. And
then that is kind of that's really the thing to focus on in
in general these events is not whether it was a false flag or
not. And I have to say this has Sandy Hook Hallmark all over it.
It has
a lot of Sandy Hook elements and I have two clips to kind of
indicate that okay. Try this one. This is the to hospital
lot. Now here's the thing. There were seven. They're always the
same numbers, which is really unusual 14 and 1714 and 1714
killed 17 wounded, injured. Where are these people? Now?
Everyone kept saying that there's the Loma Linda hospital
nearby and it turns out there was another little hospital and
that hospital took five people Loma Linda, according to all
reports took four and let me see if I think I have two clips. One
of them talks about the woman who is at the hospital
discussing
I have to I have to hospital locked down what else Oh, late
report on Loma Linde.
Yeah, Loma Linda that's played that one first
thing that we learned at that news conference here is we got
an update on exactly the number of victims that they took in
here at the hospital, they took in five adult victims and at
this point, two of them are in critical but stable condition
and two are in fair condition. Also one is still being
assessed. Now they have set up an area for obviously the
ambulances to come in, they've taken down some of the tents
that were there earlier. They've also set up a room for families
to come here and to wait and to hear about their loved ones that
are in this hospital. And right now everyone in this community
is wondering how something like this could happen at a place
that takes care of so many people in need.
They love that. leverage that. Now. So here's an eyewitness
this guy was in a car wreck. And he was at the Loma Linda
hospital. I don't know where it happened to the other 12 people
by the way, the other hospitals seem to have three or four
people so there's a bunch of missing injured people they
can't account for and they never when they had the triage set up,
they never brought anybody out. And in fact I have one just like
Sandy Hook. He is looking a little like that, especially
when you hear this one. This is the two hospital locked down and
curtains clip
at Arrowhead Regional Medical Centre. Police were in riot gear
as a lockdown was in place and victim's family members were
forced to wait outside. Loma Linda University Medical Centre
this man says he was left alone in the emergency room after a
car crash Wednesday morning. While nurses scrambled to work
on the flood of people injured in the shooting. The people that
were more seriously injured were pretty much kept in. In the
shadows pretty much they they were they had curtains covering
them that way no one could see them.
They had curtains currently so no one could see them. And there
was a court in the other four there's only
four maybe there's nothing to see. Well,
any very screwy
this whole business of the left the bodies in there and no one's
been identified except the two who were killed and then their
names were spelled out verbatim. Yeah, do the bodies
in there is a is a I think a script error.
That's why they have to realise the place guarantee this place
is realised within a year then we'll know. Then we'll know.
Well,
but here let's play this one. I got too many clips. I gotta play
some of them.
I'd love to get in here whenever you're ready.
I'll go well let me just do this because this would be good entre
mon Okay, so they bring in this is always suspicious you're on
you're watching Fox and they bring in harridge
Oh Catherine herridge The Pixies are alive. Yeah, the spy
alright, this Okay, now we're now we have my attention. Well
player, obviously where she
herridge and tidbits couple tidbits are
very much involved with this and our Catherine herridge works
intelligence for us live in Washington new Catherine
anything to add
yo what's that electronic sound?
Did you hear? It was a connection was bad. Listen, that
sounded like they were
juicing up her brain or something? Yeah, seriously it
listen to it again. Sounds like the juicing up her brain getting
to read very much
involved with this. And our Catherine herridge works
intelligence for us live in Washington. Catherine anything
to add
there tasing or John
or she was with us. Catherine here my back. So please go
on. Okay, so look, Shepard. What we have here unfolding in
Washington, unfortunately, is a carbon copy of what we saw with
his Colorado shooting. The President has been briefed.
White House counterterrorism adviser Lisa Monaco. That is
standard prep on
a second. She said this is a carbon copy of the Coloradan
do this a couple of times and I thought I thought well you're
thinking but what she's really saying well,
do we want to have her say do you want to preview it?
Well, I'm gonna give you the insight so people don't get
mixed up. She would she was referring to this a carbon copy
of the reaction in Washington ah, a series of steps taken
identical to the other one which of course If if we're thinking
along the same lines here yes it would be identical because this
is part of this step up but anyway, you can play it Hey
John.
So look did I say Look No not you know,
very much involved with this and our Catherine herridge works
intelligence for the Catherine anything to add crazy with
Catherine here my backside just on the phone. Okay, so look
shepherds, we have your unfolding in Washington.
Unfortunately, as a carbon copy of what we saw with his Colorado
shooting, the President has been briefed by his White House
counterterrorism adviser Lisa Monaco. That is standard
practice. And he will continue to receive regular updates. Same
pattern with the Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson,
uh, he has been briefed by his law enforcement team on what's
going on in California. And he too, will be getting regular
updates. The key point to watch here here at this time, is that
the local police remain in the lead. The feds are in effect a
standing by to assist when that's necessary. The FBI has
staged that means that they are now sort of in the area with
their heavy equipment, if they're needed on the scene and
the ATF has satellite office as well as the field office in
Riverside and San Bernardino. So they are on the scene but at
this point, they are not taking on a typical ATF rule because
this is clearly not contained. Just a final point a DEA DHS
official said to me based on a recent briefing, that there was
no specific or credible threat to this area at the time. We
don't know what this is at that point. But that's an important
piece of information. And they also indicated that while the
suspect or suspects fled the scene or were able to get away
from the scene, they emphasise that this is an area that's very
thick with cameras, and they were confident that there is an
image of that SUV Shepard doe,
stick with cameras. Now this brings to light Eric the shills
theory, this was an NSA headquarters. Boy, does he get
this from watching alias too much at NSA or some big
government intelligence operation posing as an inner,
you know, some sort of other with a front it's a front. And
she goes out with the cameras. I don't know how she know that
that one woman is you know, earlier was interviewed that we
had the clip, but she said she didn't know of any cameras.
There's other people that said, yeah, there's a lot of cameras,
there's no cameras, then there's no evidence. There were cameras
or I mean, there's a couple of doofuses that I have a clip of
that. Make a game like your doofus that just start making
stuff up as they go along. Yeah, but why don't you take some
clips?
Well, I'd send to Jay Johnson Johnson Jack Jack Johnson was
brought up. But and these these guys travelled to? Did he go to
Saudi Arabia or Qatar? Got her got her? I don't know. And the
only reason I bring that up is because there was a in the Doha
news. There was a release about presence gifts given to Jeh
Johnson by Qatari officials, including totaling I should say,
$170,000, including what is it? For you? Oh, no, it was 170
total, Johnson's family was given some $44,000 in gifts,
including a $15,700 Cartier platinum bracelet, and a six and
six points. $6,600 Rolex watch, and the Qatari Attorney General
Ali Bin fit ties our Mary also gave both Johnson's daughter and
wife $3,200, gold Cartier, necklaces, pendants, engraver,
their initials and the word love. What Yeah,
you can't take this.
Oh, let me see if I guess he did.
Well, this is just scandal.
Well, US government officials are not allowed to keep most
valuable gifts given to them on the job. But according to the
disclosure, they accept some offerings to quote, avoid
embarrassment to the donor and the US government. Yeah, go.
Don't want to embarrass everybody take your bribe,
because they didn't bury you
don't want to don't want to embarrass anybody. Now, as you
know, on the no agenda show, we have no agenda, we are
completely open. And I certainly open to any theory, anything
that needs to be followed anything that needs to be
followed up. And if you take the you take the stance that this
was some kind of an operation, and that the elites in the New
World Order always leave clues for us. Of course, we've seen
clues about 911 in the matrix. Do you remember that where the
passports shows 911 2001 Yeah, so Neil's passport, or the
Simpsons, you know, there's all kinds of things. If we, if we
connect these, this particular event with Paris, it's very
interesting. I just want to bring it up. It's just just
wanted to put it out there because the lyrics are quite
interesting. The band that was in the, in the hall performing
When the most people were killed there in Paris is the Eagles of
Death Metal. And they have a song which is titled San
Bernardino sunburn. So they were in Paris that got shot up, and
now they have this single time I got this girlfriend, Jesus. So
I'm gonna forge ahead a little bit to another part of the song.
Again, this is San Bernardino and we're going to San
Bernardino. We're headed over to
a girlfriend who is a swinger Yes. And when
we're headed to San Bernardino, yes. Okay. And then and then
we'll hit Texas. Stop in Amarillo for a bite TV. Demo
stop over in Dallas so I'm calling Amarillo Texas and
Dallas Texas as the next targets
well, they're good targets Emeril and not so much. Why not
everyone
knows Amarillo and I guess they do yeah, um, so I'm just saying
if this is one of those little clues that they like to leave
around for us, we got your boys we got you. Message received the
memos will be flying after the show.
Message received. And I will say I like those Eagles of Death
Metal. That's a pretty good jam.
It's a little old fashioned.
It's a very Norman Greenbaum type of song Yes. This guy Yeah,
exactly what it is it's a rip off rip off I tell you
this play well actually I got a couple more clips in this and
then we move on if we want to Yeah, sure. But I think we
should maybe take a small welcoming break.
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now I want to play a clip that rebut something that you said a
little earlier, which was last night's report about leaving all
the corpses in the in the body in the place and this day
actually rebuts Everything okay? This is a clip that is that says
this is the first review this is a was this word on here's all
smeared something. First report with stretchers. I think there's
another one
I have support from Scott Pelley is what I have.
No, no but that I want to play next. Okay, down a little bit.
This one says something is all muddled it says Marcos or
something ag for
okay. Yeah. And you wonder why I sometimes pull the wrong clip.
I'm ready. You're ready. Yeah, hit it. You're telling me that
your wife is in? Just got out of the building right now.
What did she see?
She said the guy shot next came in next to her office and I
guess started shooting. They locked themselves in in her
office. They seem bodies on the floor and she's dead by now.
Ambulance are taking people out in stretchers.
That is the first report we've had from inside the building.
That's Marcos angularity describing what his wife told
him about what she saw in the office building.
There pull it this was like right at the beginning. They got
stretchers in there and they're pulling people out. No,
I don't think that's true at all. No, maybe that was the
drill part of it where they were pulling people out on
stretchers.
And here's actually the first report that I picked up off of
CBS and this is Scott Pelley. Oh by the way should not be doing
these sorts of things. He's not that good at it.
Number is sure to change as we learn more and discover exactly
what has occurred there in the in the next several hours the
freeway has been blocked off entirely in front of this
building. We're in a freeway, the fire department has set up a
triage area to treat the wounded. Jan Crawford reported a
moment ago that the wounded are already in route to the Loma
Linda University Medical Centre We do not have any information
on any conditions of those people who've apparently been
wounded. We do not know whether there are any fatalities.
You know, everyone's trying to be Dan Rather. This he sounded
just like Dan Rather reporting on JFK being shot. Would have
dishes what we know at this hour, we do not have the rub.
Everyone's doing, Dan Rather.
I never thought about it, but you're probably right. Yeah.
Well, I thought that clip had what I was looking for, which
was his mention of long guns. Yep. That's what you heard this
on and off. There was Doris.
Now do you remember Do you remember the last time or
actually the first time we heard the phrase long guns and I
believe the last time it was used this frequently?
In a pirate movie, maybe bring out the long guns? No. Sandy
Hook. Okay. Well, these law it let's start with with the
definitions here. A gun is a gun. It doesn't have rifling.
These were and by the way, this was an AK 47 As everyone keeps
saying, ak 47 Is that the reports that finally came out
this morning? there these are m sixteens. Yeah. They're 20
threes, you know, shoots horrible long gun. But then long
and these are rifles their rifles you get if they say an
assault rifle is fine. But their rifles they're rifling in the
barrel. It's a different animal than a gun, which has no rifling
it's like a pistol or a shotgun. And it's a different you know,
so why are you calling them long guns? Because the word gun is
what we're trying to say we want gun not rifle of course. Gun is
the word that's operative word. So these guys are these guys
weren't using pistols. We're trying to get some laws against
pistols, right? We're gonna do call them guns calm long guns.
Yeah,
well, never let a good crisis go to waste.
This is outrageous. This, these memes about the daughters. The
long guns. Okay, the frequency,
then I'm going to move us on. And we'll do the exact same
thing with the Planned Parenthood shooting. Is that
okay? Sure. All right. Every but and this has kind of been pushed
to the background. So I'm talking now two days ago when
this was top of the news before this, you know, and there you
go. The frequency is increasing. So we'll never really get to
fully analyse anything. Because just when we're kind of sure we
know what's going to happen. Maybe the frequency will kick in
and the six week cycle turns in, I think six cycles per week.
I think this is working better. Oh, it's much better because no
one has any time. He told me he's the smarter guy than the
other guy. He
is Muller. No. So we have so here is the facts as we know
them about we don't even know if the Planned Parenthood shooting
started in Planned Parenthood. We don't know anything but the
main point that came out, which is still I think the guy is not
sure when he's being arraigned. But we only have the rumour that
someone heard a law enforcement officer say the Guy murdered
under his breath, baby parts. So unlike, you know, the San
Bernardino shooting, which has a lot of terrorism memes in there,
which we just won't call terrorism. Immediately, the same
day, Planned Parenthood came out with a statement saying, you
know, this is nuts. We can't have all this this is always
happening. We're being targeted and they rolled out everybody
John, everybody was rolled out and you can't blame them, you
know, considering that they got so harassed by politicians so
harassed by the rhetoric, which we need to talk about what
rhetoric means that they're striking back at Republicans,
but it's in a way that is it's a big Shut up slave moment, huge
Shut up, slave. I don't know how many how much legs it's gonna
get because of the frequency now, but let us start with and
they rolled out everybody they could, including Cecile would
first we have Vicki ko Archie is the CEO of the Colorado Planned
Parenthood operation. And she's got her talking point very
interesting woman to look at beautiful grey hair. You know,
she's you can tell she was uh, she still is stunning to look
at. The great. It's kind of like Mimi, Mimi has this beautiful
grey hair. Interestingly, it's a beautiful look. I love it when
Mimi has a tie back in that huge ponytail. She's still doing
that. No, no. I like that. She's not she hasn't gone short. Has
she? No,
I want to save height. Okay,
here we go. Vicki court.
I want to move back to this idea of domestic terrorism. Again,
you're being cautious about now played
now we need to keep that in mind. They desperately want this
to be labelled as terrorism, domestic terrorism, which has a
very specific legal definition which this could totally fall
into but it's important, then we can have, you know, it's a whole
different level of prosecution and fear pretty much
what the suspect may or may not have said. But you have said in
a statement that extremists are creating a poisonous environment
that feeds domestic terrorist
extremists. You do know what they're talking about
you don't you jump tea party? Yeah, did
rock Donald Trump,
Donald levy experience so much hate hateful language hateful
speech. Such a negative environment has been created
around the work that Planned Parenthood does around the idea
of safe and legal abortion. And we've seen that across the
country from all sorts of speakers in the last few months,
I can't believe that this isn't contributing to some folks.
mentally unwell or not thinking that it's okay to target Planned
Parenthood or to target abortion providers.
Are you talking about
place? I think politicians have been in that conversation,
conversation, conversation. And I mean, you know that the
airwaves are full of anti abortion language of anti
Planned Parenthood accusations, much of which is much of which
false in much of which not all of much of which, sure, and
well, that's
a great line, much of which is false in nature, doesn't mean
it's factually false. It's false in this is a good one. Yeah.
accusations, much of which is false in nature. And she's
up talking to false in nature. This is a 66 year old woman,
stop the it's false in nature,
false in nature. And we have planned parenthood are first and
foremost a healthcare provider. We provide life saving services
to all kinds of folks, men and women across our communities.
And the tirades against Planned Parenthood in the last few
months have really been over the top.
Okay, so the idea here is that speech, this type of speech from
but of course, only Republican candidates, is it's going to be
equated to yelling fire in a crowded theatre. This is what
they are pushing for, to make people shut up Anderson Cooper
to the rescue,
like like other Planned Parenthood clinics, this one in
Colorado Springs provides a range of health care services to
women, including abortions, and as we said, the suspect
mentioned baby parts to investigators as well as anti
abort. This has not been proven and anti government views.
I didn't hear any of that he also had anti government anti
abortion views. Did you hear any of this?
I don't know where that happened. It came
out of Cooper's butthole said the suspect mentioned baby parts
to investigators as well as just listen
again. They are saying is if they have some proof this is
this is not journalism. This isn't even he should have thrown
in a legit or something or supposedly,
anything but this yes, this is at least gotten past you're
complaining
the New York, the New York Times would have fired someone who
allowed that to go to print, or they should have maybe they
don't, but they're planning
to use two clinics. This one in Colorado Springs provides a
range of health care services to women including abortions, and
as we said, the suspect mentioned baby parts to
investigators as well as anti abortion anti government views.
New to me, the attack comes as abortion has once again become a
white hot issue on the campaign trail fueled in part by
controversial videos made by an anti abortion group what he's
reading.
It is really disturbing to see the kind of hateful rhetoric.
This is the seal obviously, who Oh, yes, I love this woman. Oh,
my Is this a woman or what? This is a great lady. She just looks
like she's great. It's too bad. She's working with those guys
that's been
talked about, about Planned Parenthood, about the women who
come to us about the doctors who provide health care. It's very
hard to see these kinds of violent incidents. That I think
sometimes this this rhetoric feels
what is rhetoric. John, what is the definition of rhetoric?
Well, rhetoric,
the definition of rhetoric has changed over the IRS has
actually got a lot of definitions. in the classic
sense rhetoric, always referred to it could actually refer to
oratory, and it could refer to how to use the language properly
and there used to be courses in the major schools or rhetoric
courses you take. So you could be you know, you'd have the
ability to speak properly and write properly and it would and
argue properly. According that is the old fashioned Devenish
today's definition it's just the use of just using amusing
exaggerations and, and and
mirror hyperbole. The Merriam Webster Dictionary defines at
one the art of speaking or writing effectively the study of
principles and rules of competence The skill and
effective use of speech and verbal communication hundreds
that would be true, right? Well, I always like to look at the
Wikipedia or the when you hit New just type in rhetoric
definition to Google, they give you the definition which I'm
seeing more and more people posting as okay, this is what
the word means. But that's not necessarily from an approved an
authorised dictionary source. According to Google bredereck,
the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing,
especially the use of figures of speech and other compositional
techniques. So I guess he means his form of lying in this case
is rhetoric means lie. I
think they're talking about the modern definition. In fact, I
just looked it up is in dictionary.com, which does a
pretty good job of this, by the way. And number one current
definition in writing or speech, talking or writing the undue use
of exaggeration or display bombast.
And should we use dictionary.com? From now on as
the official no agenda word source?
I like it. Okay.
To that point. You said earlier today, you said hateful rhetoric
and words and harassment of doctors and harassment of women
going to health centres have real implications. And you've
said, quote that you've never seen the kind of rhetoric that
we're seeing from presidential candidates. Do you directly link
the rhetoric that you're seeing you're hearing from presidential
candidates to what happened?
Well, I can't of course I can't do it directly linkage Anderson,
but I do think that everyone in public office people who are
leaders in this country have a responsibility to think about
the words they use, which they use words matter possible
repercussions.
Don't you love that? Word? All right, words matter D careful
what you say is like yelling fire in a dinner theatre. Now we
go to the entertainment portion of CNN. LARRY WILMORE has this
talk show. This is where this guy come from familiar with
Larry Wilmore.
Larry Wilmers talk show. I believe it's on Comedy Central.
Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, you're right. Why am I saying seen in
Comedy Central?
He used to be one of the big players on the on the Jon
Stewart show. Okay,
well, let's listen in. No more baby parts. Okay. Now this could
be excused as just an Uttering some crazy thing but that sounds
very specific. No more baby parts. I mean, almost as if it
was served up in a nice cool picture of Fox in their friends
Kool Aid,
telling the body parts of aborted babies
are taking babies apart to harvest its brain baby parts
baby parts,
baby parts, little baby parts, rip up their body parts and sell
them like their parts to a view of a dead baby's
dead baby's head Bulik parts. Okay, so let's review since the
summer fonts in the GOP ramped up their rhetoric about baby
body parts being sold at Planned Parenthood. The KoolAid cut to a
guy shoots up for Planned Parenthood then rant about baby
parts now you guys don't want outcomes razors right the
simplest explanation is probably the correct way. So do I feel
comfortable saying that he was at least partially motivated by
the rights demonization of Planned Parenthood Thank you
Kool Aid
man. All right. So if he's just going all in and yeah, outcomes
razor would be we have no idea what he said and you're full of
crap that will be outcomes razor who's raised who would be the
guy was nuts. But in other words, that's used specifically
to call out conspiracy theorists. Now let's go over to
another EVP on the rhetoric of Planned Parenthood
unrealistic, and most people would say that the more that
people are out there, demonising saying offensive and untrue
things about an organisation calling us outlandish names and
making really obscene charges that are not true. The more that
people even if they are mentally unstable, can then decide that
they're being asked to take action. And of course, we need
to be asking why people who are perhaps have mental illness are
being allowed access to ak 40 sevens to terrorise not just
health centres, but theatres and schools and not act asking why
those groups and organisations in places have to be
significantly fortified.
And they are significantly four to five there's a lot of cameras
and every Planned Parenthood. We have not seen any of that
footage either now Washington Post,
they wanted an A it was always had to be an AK 47
That's a leftover from the F Putin mean.
It's a ridiculous Yes, it's a part of it. Yeah. And nobody
even uses it that says the AK 74 is within us if it was using the
gun at all.
The the newspaper The desperately wants to become the
new paper of record the Washington Post, and they're
trying so hard. Well, that's not going to work with Ruth Marcus.
Are you familiar with Ruth Marcus seems like an oil.
I'm going to be in a minute there.
She seems like an old school. hardened the heart as hard nosed
journalist. And this is a journalist she writes for The
Washington Post, they want to be the paper of record and this is
what they do.
The Republican candidates have been very, very quiet about this
shooting this horrible shooting for an obvious reason, which is
they have been part of the inflamed and inflammatory
rhetoric about Planned Parenthood about the sale of
baby parts about dismembering live babies, which is not
accurate, not what was shown on the videos and that when you use
inflammatory rhetoric, you inflame people
write that down, John, if you use lambda, so that these people
spontaneously combusting blue flames
that this inflammatory rhetoric you inflame people and I think
that we don't know exactly what this shooter was all about, I
think it is a fair conclusion based on his mentioning of no
more baby parts
which is not confirmed Washington Post future paper of
record lie you're mentioning of no more baby she said a lot she
slept she slipped in alleged Okay, that's this kind of
rhetoric
that helped create this environment.
So is it the what the shooter says even though he may be
deranged that you think has a direct link correlation? Once
it's
well, it's on the script, therefore, we have to yell at
her rhetoric
has been all about because if that's the formula there have
been a lot of people who said some pretty outrageous things
that you can't really tie to the national discourse.
Well, let me make myself clear people who are deranged
What is she running for office? Let me make myself clear. Yeah.
This she turned invisible.
Look, her look her up, really don't wanna know what she's
doing over there.
Give me her name again.
RUTH MARCUS
are not responsible for their own behaviour. So certainly
candidates are not responsible for the behaviour of deranged
people. However, however, when you exaggerate the rhetoric,
when you accuse Planned Parenthood of doing things that
it was not doing, he helped create a climate,
say what it was doing. Yeah, it was doing well. This is their
chance. You see, they get to they get to strike Baron hit of
doing see what you did. If you kill PayPal, things
that it was not doing, you helped create a climate where
these deranged people have an outlet for their derangement.
And I think it does. It does play a role. It's not the cause,
but it is part of the environment that helps create
this thing. And I do think that all lawmakers and all
politicians have a responsibility to keep the
discourse civil and to keep it accurate. Shut up. That was
slaves on with the Planned Parenthood debate in my view,
okay. Did you look her up?
She's a lawyer, Harvard Law School. She writes commentaries
in the Washington,
so you can't i can't You're right. I can't do that. I didn't
realise
that. She was a she's an op ed.
Okay. All right. I didn't realise but still onMessage as
is the President
with respect to Planned Parenthood obviously my heart
goes out to the families of those impacted I mean, Nancy i i
say this every time we've got to one of these mass shootings is
just doesn't happen in other countries
does Paris
you know, we Norway are rightly Denmark,
Denmark, Poland, Ireland, the term England
to prevent your tax return wherever they occur whether in
the United States or with friends and allies like France
and we devote enormous resources and properly so to rooting out
networks and
iceborne Me Now shut up I'm bored he's boring
he's boring. Now when I hear Him say the same spiel and he's
using it it's almost word for word it adds at least with not
this frequency.
Did he say that here frequency
no now when he didn't but I'm telling
ya I don't think he doesn't on this one. This is before this is
before the frequency for
somebody clued him in. Think we have two more clips
the undercover recording set off a firestorm with many calling to
defund Planned Parenthood, some of the loudest voices.
Republican candidates for President sir candidate Mike
Huckabee told a radio host it's the worst thing he seen since
Nazi Germany and CNN GOP debate in September more anger filled
rhetoric and in powder and Carly Fiorina watch
a fully formed foetus on the table it's hard beating its
legs.
While someone says we'll have to keep it alive to harvest its
brain
goodbye, Carly. Goodbye, Carly. Goodbye Carly
trouble is in this case that wasn't video of an aborted
foetus but of a stillborn child she's
correct that is exactly what is true. So Carly just miss saw it
but she saw it but she was wrong. She just
exaggerate everything. You know, this inflamed rhetoric done
quite well. We're making plenty of money.
Let's to working with the group who made the video Centre for
medical progress, told CNN that while he does believe Planned
Parenthood sold foetal tissue. He did get creative with the
video admitting that it was edited a critical detail that
seemed to be lost on all GOP candidates. Following the
shooting at the Colorado Planned Parenthood clinic, the Executive
Vice President of Planned Parenthood Federation of America
had strong words for Republican critics we got writing, it is
offensive and outrageous that some politicians are now
claiming this tragedy has nothing to do with the toxic
environment. They helped create
outstanding the final one because we got to wrap it up.
There's nothing better than being Cecile Richards and being
interviewed by Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC. Because she is She
might as well just ask the question, then jump through the
camera, go to the other side and answer the question. This is not
an interview.
The political parties have been pretty well divided by wedge
issues, social issues, including abortion rights. For many years
now, we've seen this in so many cycles. But it does seem now as
though the divide is even more pronounced that in the past,
I've never seen the kind of rhetoric that we are seeing from
potential candidates that are demeaning not only Planned
Parenthood, but women who go to bed and parents, doctors,
doctors at Planned Parenthood evening or the fact that there
is safe and legal abortion in America. I do think that this
political season is toxic as I have ever seen. And again, the
extraordinary thing and what we've seen Andrew over the last
few months is as these attacks have escalated on health centres
and on Planned Parenthood, the support of Planned Parenthood
has only grown hundreds of 1000s of new supporters have joined
Planned Parenthood because they're now realising that
access to basic health care, not only safe and legal abortion,
but other preventive care that we provide is actually at risk
in America.
Where do we stand with the defunding issue in Congress
because of the
watcher not answered the question, the
undercover videos the foetal tissue issue, which became so to
foetal tissue issue? Hi, may
another Brian Paxson Well, as I think, you know, Sam parody is
full of Wow,
did she just editorialise there? It's so toxic. It's so talk.
This is this is a big meme word. It's so toxic, the rhetoric is
toxic. It's toxic, so toxic.
I think, you know, Planned Parenthood is full of fully
cooperated with Congress, and we've provided 10s of 1000s of
pages of documents. I spent five hours in front of a
congressional committee, we are fully cooperative. They have
found zero evidence of any wrongdoing at Planned
Parenthood. We now have a record five committees by this US House
of Representatives trying to investigate Planned Parenthood.
I frankly think that what I wish Congress would spend their time
on is thinking about how to get more women in this country,
health care that's affordable and accessible, the kind that we
provide in nearly 3 million people every single year wrap it
up.
Can you respond to the continuing rhetoric and rhetoric
selling baby parts?
Absolutely. We have been very clear there are only a handful
of centres in the country that allow women to donate foetal
tissue there is no profit involved there is no nothing
like that
they actually change their their processes based upon this that's
not reported anywhere. They change to not take any money at
all. No no fees no nothing just to hand that out. So
I think that as you go the other way. jack up the price. put us
at a fee list down Yeah. And then when somebody comes in on
the counter here's the fee list you talk talk to the paper.
Anyway, so yeah, by the way, I thought it was excellent of you
to begin by pointing out the word and usage of the word
rhetoric rhetoric and then as because we did the definition
skit the all we hear is that word now Oh yeah. Right. This
will be one of those words that people out there will hear and
they go though agenda?
Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right. Rhetoric rhetoric. Oh, no agenda
rhetoric, no agenda rhetoric.
Donate no agenda rhetoric rhetoric.
It is toxic rhetoric toxic con cigarette toxic red, right
donate no agenda, toxic rhetoric. All right. Well, of
course we there's no way to escape it. We had the big cop
21. The big climate conference happening in Gay Paree. It's not
even in Paris. It's liberal J which is where they always have
The Paris Air Show. It's not real, it's an airport pretty
much liberal Shut
up is North NASA airports have a lot of big facilities in Paris.
No liberal Jay is yours.
The joke of date, I always thought this was interesting. In
most of Europe compared to like the Las Vegas Convention Centre,
or any city in the country of the United States, we have like
the Moscone in San Francisco. There's the Los Angeles
operation. There's, there's the Javits centre, there's nothing
like those things anywhere in Europe. By comparison, there's a
few little centres that are big enough to hold this book fair.
But there's nothing like like Las Vegas, for example. So
people fly in from all over the world to go to an event in Las
Vegas.
And the booj is great because everyone can land their plane
their
land, their private jets. Carbon producing jets will be landed.
Alright, so let's replace the park
was open up the gate, then since we're going to the gate to the
gate to the to the climate gates 2015 21. In Game Pass, is
president. We all know why he's there. We all know what's going
on. We all know the connection. The connection was made very
early on by the Dushan uncle from the new Thomas Friedman,
who did a series about the Earth and how we're all going to die.
And he was the first one to say climate change is responsible
for terrorism. And the President followed his
lead in Paris today, President Obama warned that the world is
fast approaching the hour when it will be too late to save the
planet from climate change. Before the unprecedented global
summit meeting, Mr. Obama acknowledged the threat of
terrorism, placing a tribute at one of the scenes of the recent
attacks. Then he told 151 heads of state and government that a
deal to cut carbon emissions would be an act of defiance
against terror.
And our buddy Bill Nye the crazy science guys is now the climate
guy. He was on the HuffPost HuffPost Live, this one kind of
went viral. It's very
reasonable that the recent trouble in Paris is a result of
climate change.
Okay. Very reasonable, very reasonable.
I can think of nothing more reasonable water shortage, the
explanation,
let's listen to him, he will tell us how it works.
It's very reasonable that the recent trouble in Paris is a
result of climate change this water shortage in Syria. There
is a water shortage in Syria. This is fact based that small
and medium farmers have abandoned their farms because
there's not enough water and of rainfall. And especially the
young people who have not grown up there have not had their
whole lives invested and living off the land. Young people going
to the big cities, looking for work. There's not enough work
for everybody. So disaffected youth, as we say, the young
people who don't believe in the system believe the system's
failed. They're ready to be radicalised don't believe in the
economy get are more easily engaged and more easily
recruited. Uh huh. By terrorist organisations. And then they
ended up partway around the world in Paris shooting people
wait a minute, they were French nationals, you douche. It was no
one there were no foreigners who did this. There were French
nationals least the ones that were killed.
So you can make a very reasonable argument that climate
change is not that indirectly related to terrorism. It's
related to terrorism. So this is just the start of things
horrible let this go on more trouble, there's going to be
troubles they will stamp out the terrorists but if everybody's
leaving their farms because of water shortages, that's a little
bigger. It's a little bigger problem. Okay, well, you heard
it from Bill nine must be true. Now the President now I'm very
concerned about our president. I don't know if you've noticed
this, but it looks like he's he's he's like he's defeated. He
has this complete defeated attitude he's his energy is
extremely low. But although from time to time he picks up a
little bit but he's also talking insane stuff. The end maybe it's
not scripted, maybe you feel like in go off script go go kind
of do his own thing. But when you're the president he's always
so good. That whatever he says he can point to that two years
later and say I said exactly that do you think that you look
at the wording as laying out crap? He's a lawyer he
understands language and when I heard this I mean he's losing it
he's and then something else. This is the first of all tidbit
wrote his speech there and lubricate. The fact of the
matter is there's a realm I get the fact of the matter we start
off right away. Are you kidding me? The fact of the matter
is, there's a reason why you have The largest gathering of
world leaders probably, in human history,
listen to his energy here in Paris.
Everybody else has taken climate change really seriously. They
think it's a really big problem. It's spans political parties. I
mean, you travel around Europe. And you talk to leaders of
governments and the opposition. And they are arguing about a
whole bunch of things. One thing they're not arguing about is
whether the science of climate change is real and whether or
not we have to do something about it. Oh, so whoever is the
President next president united states, if they come in, and
they suggest somehow that that global consensus,
global consensus, John, it's a global consensus, global,
not just 99.5% of scientists and experts
Wait a minute, what we went from 97 to 99.5 We've increased seven
was a bogus number. Now he's jacked it up to 99.5 99.5 99.
Point 5.5 are Yeah,
99.5.
Not just 99.5% of scientists and experts. Point five climate FM
Hi, doing everybody. We're all gonna die. 9.5 99% of what?
World leaders?
Oh, who's that one a whole. If there's 100 D, if there's 150. P
Modi, right. If there's 150 people, they're world leaders,
and 99%. He's all in that means 1.5 world leaders. Yeah, one and
a half guys, who's the point fiver
from the half guy.
World leaders think this is really important.
He can't even do math. I said new common core stuff.
Nothing. The President United States is going to need to think
this is really important.
All right. So his energy's low. And then John, he just he just
goes into some crazy stuff crazy.
I have, I have long believed that the most elegant way to
drive innovation and to reduce carbon emissions. This
is though it's almost as though you slow down the tape. I
didn't this this is what I've been noticing. He is that he I
think he's just defeated, then we'll get to that, you know, he
has nothing. Everyone's moving ahead. Without him boots on the
ground in Syria. We're gonna No Fly Zone, he, he's been put on
the sidelines. I think his energy is the lowest I've ever
seen it he's, he is laughing. He's it's a real desperation
chuckle
I have, I have long believed that the most elegant way to
drive innovation and to reduce carbon emissions is to put a
price on it. Okay, put a
price on it. This is interesting, because now we can
reverse engineer but the numbers don't really work for me. You
can reverse engineer how much money is going to go into this
thing and it's less than I thought the end the reasoning
behind it is the carbon budget. And if you look at the
documentation from the shills, the, the carbon budget is a
total of 750 Giga tonnes of carbon in our lifetimes forever,
of which we've already used 500. So there's only 250 Giga tonnes
left in our carbon budget, in order to keep that that budget
in check, because of course, things do happen naturally over
time, we need to lower the temperature rise to two degrees.
So now we have a number that's how you come back into it. So
one tonne of co2, the average price expected will be $22. It's
kind of a it's an average of what they believe will be $10 To
start with, and around $40 by 2035 or 2025 or 2035. I'm not
sure. So gigaton, that to me is a is that's a million 1000
million tonnes. Am I saying that right? It's 1000 billion 1000
million or billion billion 1000 billion.
And a billion is a million million
times 20. Seems like a lot of money seems like 20 like seems
like 2,000,000,000,002 point 2 trillion. Do I have that right?
I don't have a patent Common Core. So just so we can it's
going to be a lot of money. A lot of money that's going into
this and that's when he says put a price on it. This is exactly
what he means.
Well, second, what's put Get price on it got to do with
lowering anything, but people just jack up the price and they
pay me pass it on to the consumers, whoever these
polluters are that their carbon polluters, and then you just pay
more for your monthly gas bill and is in Ryan's into a
depression. It's
exactly it'll be it'll come in the form of a tax, and the tax
that has to be paid. So it's all fictional. It's like money
itself. It's just fictional random numbers, but at least
they have numbers that we can now look at. It see, someone
else will do the not the math, but I'm pretty sure it's $2.2
trillion dollars.
Well, all I know, as I'm watching this, and 2.2 trillion
is not that much nowadays. Especially if you'd listen to
the clip I have, are they I need to finish this before we go.
Well, I was just gonna say a couple of things.
I'd love to hear that. But first, we have to listen to the
Crazy Talk of the President, because he's gone off his rocker
John, completely insane.
Classic market failure market opened up?
Well, it's a market failure because Maurice Strong just
died. Now Maurice Strong was the guy with Al Gore, who started
the carbon exchange, and then he rebuked it. But this was
supposed to be his Paris, his client, this is why it's in
Paris. This was supposed to be his big thing. Yeah. But isn't
he the guy who rebuked all this rebuke from a book? Right? It's
in a way that goes one textbook.
It'll say, you know, the market is very good about determining
prices and allocating capital towards its most productive use,
except there's certain externalities, there's certain
things that the market just doesn't count, it doesn't price.
So now he's an economist, then he's saying that this is a
market failure, that we have not come up with a price for carbon
yet because of some crazy external factors. And maybe
there's just no market people want to be in, but he's not
saying,
at least not on its own. Clean air is an example. Clean water,
or the converse of dirty water, dirty air? In this case, the
carbons that are being sent up to the originally we didn't have
the science to fully understand we do
what we didn't have the science to fully understand it. That's
not true. We've had science to understand it since the early
70s. When we claim to we're going into an ice age. Is you
saying that was wrong? Because the same people John Holdren,
who are advising him right now, but for him to say we didn't,
when did we get the science? John, when did we get the
science? We did the measurements, all of a sudden,
they were good. I don't understand what he's saying.
I don't know what he's talking about. He's completely nuts. And
by the way, does he think he's being entertaining to these 150
world leaders?
He's putting them to sleep. And I even cut out the pauses in
this,
the carbons that are being sent out to the originally, we didn't
have the science to fully understand we do now. I don't
know if that's the case. If you put a price on it, then the
entire market would respond. Oh, and the best investments and the
smartest technologies would begin scrubbing. grubbing backed
away our entire economy. Rubbish. But it's difficult. And
so, you know, I think right?
Now he's struggling. Yeah, wait for it. He's struggling now.
As
he's, he's out of control. John, he's lost the plot at this
point. And now he's just going to shoot from the hip. Maybe the
teleprompter didn't work. It sounds like it was a
teleprompter fail. Actually.
I saw part of this and he was no, it was something else. He
was just not he's I don't know what it was. But if you'd left
the pauses in the show,
as
well, I left this one in because it says lead into saying
something insane.
The science around climate change is more accepted. As
people start realising that even today
See now he's back on track.
You can put a price on the damage that climate change is
doing. You go down to Miami and when it's flooding, high tide on
a sunny day, fishes swimming through the middle of the street
I'm out here on the streets of
Miami. Hose what you know tell us what you know. I've been
learning
there's a lot of water John and oh my God, John, it is so bad.
There. There are fish, fish. flopping around
LZ say
I'm trying to be saved trying to get to higher ground, but that
oh my god, what is that?
Huge fish. It's just flopping in the water here on the streets of
Miami. climate change and climate change
is real. It's real. It's real. It's real.
Okay, I don't know of any fish flopping in Miami please send
report
you say flopping is as though they're swimming around you said
flopping well but back it up
high tide on a sunny day. fishes swimming through the middle of
the street.
Oh, you're right. Swimming, I thought they were flopping
swimming this other so much. So much water they can swim off to
the
swimming around Miami there. People are bitching about not
having enough food to eat Come on,
can walk into the street and grab some fish, carp some
saltwater car
insurance companies already are beginning to realise that in
terms of how they price risk, and the more the market on its
own, starts putting a price on it because of risk. It may be
that the politics around setting up a cap and trade system for
example,
cap and trade there you go and he's going to not solve anything
he's going to bring up your favourite topic
shifts as well. Obviously I'm not under any illusion that this
Congress will impose something like that because they're not
funny it's it is worth remembering that it was
conservatives and Republicans and centre right think tanks
that originally figured out this was a smarter way to deal with
pollution than a command and control system.
You know what's coming now? And it
was folks like George HW Bush and Z da that effectively
Marshall this approach to deal with acid rain. Yeah, we ended
up solving it a lot faster.
A cue John. Oh, shit. Give us a little more. There was a cap
system not cap and trade. It was a cap system. Right?
With the acid rain there was actually a modified cap and
trade system. That's true. The mechanism was way different than
this one we have for this. phoney deal. And of course it
was I noticed people in the listening to you going oh, these
bastards these guys are they're in denial. Yeah. All I know is
that I will just use my logic I'm going to bring it back up. I
do it all the time. If there's a problem that's going to cause
worldwide chaos, panic, terrorism and everything in
between, why are you doing cap and trade CAP and CAP your cap
your cap something but you're not really capping it you're
trading you're still putting out as much pollution but you've
traded your pollution or your carbon pollution which is
bullshit but you're trading your carbon pollution for somebody's
forest in South America because they have negative because
therefore sucks up carbon dioxide and so the net carbon
dioxide going in the air is the same if you have a problem cap
it cap it a lot cheaper
than anybody had anticipated. And I guess more than anything
that's the main message I want to send here. Oh finally is
climate change is a massive problem massive it is a
generational problem generational it's a problem that
by definition is is just about the hardest thing for any
political system to absorb
what climate change is by definition one of the hardest
things to solve no it's not this that's not the definition of
climate change it my I'm over over analysing
you've taken this in the wrong direction play it back and it
will go over it
it's a problem that by definition is is just about the
hardest thing for any political system to absorb because the
effects are gradual, they're diffuse people don't feel it
immediately and so there's not a lot of constituency pressure on
politicians to do something about it right away.
Maybe one doesn't I'm buying the scam yo. And then my favourite
thing and then I'm done. Yo my favourite thing is and I love
this is happening. The big big ole in Mel and Melinda Gates are
now being called out for their moral support. They're more All
donations there morally Collington
used his feet today in lieu of fossil fuels carrying a sign
while other climate activists carried petitions with more than
1000 signatures. We're calling the
case. It's $1.4 billion ties with the fossil fuel industry.
The group says Gates's hypocritical, taking money from
fossil fuel companies while rallying for clean energy.
Certainly we applaud what's been done. We appreciate that he's
moved a significant portion of his financial capital here. We'd
like him to bring his moral capital to the table as well.
Former Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn joined the activist calling
Gates Foundation investments a missed opportunity, one that
jeopardises its charitable work globally.
Sadly, the foundation undercuts his own advances want to invest
in oil and coal companies whose products are causing the Earth's
temperatures to rise and the oceans to satisfy.
The Gates Foundation sent the following statement to King five
Foundation staff have no influence on the trust
investment decisions and no visibility into its investment
strategies or holdings other than through what is publicly
available. The world of global health aid says criticise fossil
fuel divestment campaigns for misleading messages about long
term climate impact. These activists say they know it's not
a single solution. But it's an important place to start. But
what
we're doing is we're asking them to spend their moral capital in
saying that extracting fossil fuels is not a legitimate means
of raising money for their charitable work.
And the reason this is happening is partially because of Obama's
organising for Action Group. The whoever started a big push, you
can look at their website, call out the climate change deniers,
which is another version of shaming, like white privilege,
male privilege, cisgender privilege, whatever privilege
Dutch privilege, Tourettes privilege, and they have a big
website with the Obama logo on it, call out the climate change
deniers and then you know, you sign them up and you say these
guys are nine. And of course, the first person you land at is
gates. And Buffett can't be far behind for trucking all of the
oil in from Canada Navia.
Well, there's this thing going on, which I thought was
interesting. And they had they had the 350 guys there, of
course, which is now or 20, isn't it? This fix No, come sell
350 They can't get the other domain name hungry, the 420
guys. So the three shows that includes McKibben, who keeps
showing up. And this guy has become such a grump. He sits
there. He's kind of hunched over and he's just angry. Who is
this? McKibben? Mckibben is that guy. He's always on democracy.
Now. He's the guy who started 350, though. Okay, gotcha,
gotcha, gotcha. And he's just and he's just, and he sat there
with Amy Goodman. And he's just seething. Because whatever
anybody's saying, it's not good enough. We're all gonna die
anyways. So they saw one of his women that work on the
operation, she gave us little speech on divestment and how
well it's going. And there's a couple of things in here that
that struck me one is that if one of our guys who's one of our
producers, who's gone to the, to the bowels, Congress, and looked
up Whitehouse and some of these other
people who are training on insider trading,
insider trading guys, and they're buying oil companies, at
least they were, I don't think they're doing it now. But they
probably will start again. And I'm thinking if you can get
these somehow cheaper. Because the Doyle companies are long
established businesses that pay good dividends. And that's a
good investment, you can't get any interest at the bank
anymore. You need dividend producing companies. And that
means, you know, mining companies, oil companies,
drilling companies, those kinds of things. And so you want to
down, you want to push down the price as much as you can,
because that means the dividend goes up. So the stock is paying
3% and his honour dollars a share if you can push it down to
$50. And now he's paying 6%. And because it's a fixed amount, so
it varies as the price of the stock changes. So so this
divestment thing I really do believe is part of a of a
process to slam these stocks, all of them and just listen to
this, this woman going Hi,
let me let me just review what you said. So what you're saying
is the way dividends work, if you can suppress the stock of
let's say, the oil companies, then your dividend dividend
effectively if you can suppress it by 50%, your dividend
effectively doubles.
Yes, I guess the dividend is a fixed amount, it's like the
stock will be paying $1 A share dividend is not percentage, it's
not work, because otherwise it'd be fluctuating all the time. So
it's a fixed amount that they pay out. So based on the price,
it's
not it's a higher percentage of the worth of the value of the
stock.
Yeah, so You got to think the stock down to 10 bucks you'd be
making out if you can invest in it. So now's the time to think
about investing, promotion promoting this division
divestiture, right? You can't even say it. But Mckibben is
going on. He went on and started this company. This is
why they're also doing this. They want all universities to
divest from they're doing it. They're getting people to get
out of it. It's just fantastic. Greg didn't know that.
Mckibben says, well, the youth, the youth, the millennials are
all in on this. And they're protesting and making people
divest.
And, and I need to say, if you've watched the Americans,
you will know that groups who wants to affect some kind of
change or start a ruckus very often use college kids to do
their work?
Yeah. Course. But of course, does use a board. And they're
all in on me. Oh, god, that was horrible demand. Anyone over 30.
So let's play this divestment thing. I clipped it down as much
as I could. I come down a lot, actually. Because there's a
little I had to get this little tidbit in at the end, which is
cracks me up.
Were very pleased to be announcing the new commitments
to divest from fossil fuels.
Anyway, who is this?
This is the witch's woman as her she's got a funny name. I can't
remember it. But she's the three fifty.org Head Honcho under
McKibben.
And before I announced them, to all of you, I just want to once
again, remind everyone what this movement for divestment is all
about. We're here for a historic summit on climate change. And
the divestment movement is about something simple, just a little
like to cause climate change. It's wrong to profit from
causing climate change. The divestment movement has taken
off all over the world with this as its rallying cry. So without
further ado, today, we're announcing that as of today,
total divestment commitments have passed the $3.4 trillion
mark, that's $3.4 trillion of assets under management. Now
Fossil Free, a growing number of investors, representing a
growing amount of capital do not want to be associated with this
industry any longer. It is a rogue industry. And that is what
these commitments represent.
It's a rogue industry
it's gone rogue, I tell you, Oh, is it a rogue industry?
Well, because
they make pharmaceuticals from oil rogue. They make plastics
from oil rogue. Yeah, don't they make batteries from far away
from anything that you would define as a rogue as anything I
can imagine. It's a row. I want to be involved because it's a
rogue industry. She says what
I'll tell you this I this clip where the rogue industry in
combination with your outstanding analysis of why
divestiture is good because it raises the the effective
dividend of the for the shareholders. Those two things
combined to deserve clinical deserved.
At the bang, bang, bang, bang bang guy was really the one that
should have gotten
the boom boom, boom, guy now boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom, guy now not like an old boom, boom, boom
guy. Oh, just for your information. The that French
Wedeman who got fired for?
He wrote a book of saying this, that the right yes, yeah, he
shouted that firing is a version of shouting the guy down for
writing a book about climate change.
Yeah, he's been hired by RT
that's that's in other words, he's still not working.
I think he's been hired by
Putin personally, I could be but you know what they pay there's
Oh,
yeah, well, I don't know how well he was doing over there and
in the France's Yeah, maybe not as well. We take a moment just
to talk about this. The cry bullies this a lot going around
right now. We have the Lewis and Clark which see the Lewis in the
president's office at Lewis and Clark Where's is this Portland
Oregon?
It's up in Oregon I believe somewhere yeah.
And they sort of there's a list of demands a little bit up Yeah.
list of demands. And it is it is really quite sad to see what is
being demanded of these university presidents based upon
an attack me see if I have a Do I have a clip here?
Yeah, it's outside of Portland. I was in Portland. Yeah.
Okay. So they had some incidents take place. But then what
they're asking for is I'm just struggling to find it here for a
moment. But the the president must admit,
but no sick. Clark had a situation that began, I guess a
year ago. And it was it involved actually, actually, there's a
white kid and a black kid. They're best friends both on the
football team, I believe. And they were joking around and one
of them said, some, you know, some that offended a passerby
who told somebody else who told somebody else and they took and
they turned to him for being racist, right? Well,
there was that but then there was some kid who was beat up.
Some Nigerian kid, I think was beat up at Lewis was that Lewis
and Clark? I think so.
That was Lewis and Clark.
Well, I could be wrong. But anyway, they, here's the things,
the demands are quite interesting. So the demands are
have Barry Glassman Glasner he's the president hold a press
conference. In Oh, no, it was one of the students was upset
because that doesn't matter who they want a formal apology to
Lewis and Clark Black Lives Matter organisers for his
absence during the incident on the night of November 20 2015,
and the lack of communication thereafter. It was a Saturday so
he wasn't in his office. A verbal commitment to fulfilling
LC Black Lives Matter and walk this hashtag walk the talk
demands and admittance of his failure to prioritise the safety
and security of students of colour during his tenure as
president. That's a pretty big one. So basically, you have to
admit you a racist because you were saved for everyone but
students of colour, a formal statement statement to the
Delaire scholarship donors Romeo Delaire, the UW C International
Office that Davis Foundation, blah, blah, a public
acknowledgement of the following facts. Lewis and Clark College
was built upon stolen land to the genocide of indigenous and
Native American peoples through its name. Lewis and Clark
College honours the lives and deeds of owners of enslaved
peoples. Lewis and Clark College replicates the assertion of and
benefits from the legacy of Anglo American white supremacy.
Do we have to admit to all of this this is crazy.
It's like he's just been captured by the by some
terrorists in the Arab world.
I want all my money in a brown paper bags back. Yeah,
you must read this statement about the United States being
such a bad place.
So you're right, it started over there, it was over two buddies
who were making racial jokes together black guy and a white
guy and I remember just having some fun, and that they were
reported in so this is how a lot of that kicked off. Now, we also
had an interesting
by the way, I want to stop and mention something that where I
see this these things i i have some sympathy in the beginning
in the outset for some of the students and what they want, but
this has now gotten completely out of control. And it's
ridiculous and it's stupid. And I think these universities have
got it. I mean, they're making so much money off these kids.
They don't want to do anything but the way I would do is I find
and it is dominated by women by the way black women there's been
a lot of research people talk about what about you you're on
you're with them right? You're a guy wants you to say something
on okay, you know, no, nobody wants to say anything because
they get called out and
excoriated course course it's frightening. I don't want they
should
fire fire you can't fire a spell spell immediately these kids
that are doing this when you come to the college these
colleges have got to make you sign something so you have to
you know, like
a just right but what's happening John, what's fire them
and
let them deal with it then then they're arguing over whether
they get fired, but whether they got expelled legally or not let
them deal with that. And what's happening
John is the customers although misguided, the customers of
these and what is Lewis and Clark? It's like $40,000 a year
it's like 2020 grand a semester or something. I'm sure the
customers are saying we want this and the and they're Shula.
The schools are such non effective non smart people
producing institutions. They are money grubbing whores, sorry
that they are not the teachers you know, but the the system the
way it's set up with billions in in endowments, they are doing
what they owe because they're affected too. They've all become
these blobs of blistering dough. Boo Do you want to get fired
because due to good we'll lose our money we'll lose our income
except for thank God Dr. Everett Piper president of the Oklahoma
Wellesley and university
president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University Wesleyan sorry making
headlines for his epic response back to a student who was
offended by a chapel sermon. Yeah, this was great. The kid
was offended sermon. Yes, yes.
I'll read here. I have the letter. This past week. I think
I should just read I have reports on but I'll just read
it. This past week I actually had a student this from the
president come forward after university chapel service and
complain because he felt quote victimised by a sermon on the
topic of one Corinthians 13. It appears this young scholar felt
offended because a homily on love made him feel bad for not
showing love. In his mind, the speaker was wrong for making him
and his peers feel uncomfortable. I'm not making
this up. Our culture has actually taught our kids to be
this self absorbed and narcissistic. Anytime their
feelings are hurt, they are victims. Anyone who dares
challenge them and thus makes them feel bad about themselves
is a hater, a bigot and oppressor and a victimizer. I
have a message for this young man and all others who care to
listen. That feeling of discomfort you have after
listening to a sermon is called a conscience. An altar call is
supposed to make you feel bad. It's supposed to make you feel
guilty. The goal of many a good sermon is to get you to confess
your sins not coddle you and your selfishness, selfless
selfishness. The primary objective of the church and the
Christian faith is your confession, not your self
actualization. So here's my advice. If you want the chaplain
to tell you your victim rather than tell you that you need
virtue, this may not be the university you're looking for.
If you want to complain about a sermon that makes you feel less
than loving for not showing love, this might be the wrong
place. If you're more interested in playing the hater card, then
you aren't confessing your own hate if you want to arrogantly
lecture rather than humbly learn if you don't want to feel guilt
in your soul and when you're guilty of sin if you want to be
enabled rather than confronted. There are many universities
across the land in Missouri and elsewhere. That will give you
exactly what you want. But Oklahoma wells in isn't one of
them. At oak aw weed, we teach you to be selfless rather than
self centred. We are more interested in you practising
personal forgiveness than political revenge. We want you
to model interpersonal reconciliation rather than for
men personal conflict. We believe the content of your
character is more important than the colour of your skin. We
don't believe that you have been victimised every time you feel
guilty and we don't issue trigger warnings before altar
calls. Oklahoma Well, Xion is not a safe place. But rather,
Wesleyan is not a safe place, but rather a place to learn to
learn that life isn't about you, but about others that bad
feelings you have while listening to a sermon is called
guilt. That the way to address it is to repent of everything
that's wrong with you rather than blame others for everything
that's wrong with him. This is the place where you will quickly
learn that you need to grow up. This is not a daycare. This is a
university. Finally,
yeah, well, he is in the minority. Oh, yeah.
And I do a lot I do want to say about the term narcissism. Yeah,
I find it extremely humorous. When people call Donald Trump a
narcissist on Facebook is just twist my brain.
Okay, the one
Facebook is the definition of narcissism. Are you kidding me?
Everyone's on there to be a fucking narcissist. Yes, true.
It is the the epitome of narcissism to call out Donald
Trump on Facebook as a narcissist, are you kidding me?
But I love Joe Yeah, he's in the minority. It's the silent
minority as well. And unfortunately, I mean, it's,
it's when you see my Facebook feed is so good that the
professor from California, the post the Rolling Stone article
about the GOP candidate as being a clown car, it's a mad tie up
piece. It's pretty funny. But these otherwise smart people
resort to name calling all the time. Clowns, idiots morons,
crazies. jackasses.
Right. That should be left to us.
Would you please leave that to guys who are professionals at
this?
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actually really, really can't do without this true. Fact is a big
ass fact. Hey, already, let me see a couple other things. See
what I got Hillary, there were some new Hillary emails which
are kind of funny slash lame. And if there's another one that
said we have an affair with that one guy, though, was oh, with
who? That guy keeps cropping up with the conversation. I can't
think of it. I was actually kind of intrigued by Steve Ballmer
going to the shareholders meeting at Microsoft. And
calling the saying that the numbers or the the new guide,
Nadella was producing are bullshit. And he condemned
really, yeah, it's hard. I should just bullshit these
numbers are bullshit. You can't do this. And they were talking
about run rates and stuff. They were just nonsense. Ah, that's
not good.
I should probably just start giving you a list of stories the
the brain professor of stuff Stanford University posts on
Facebook.
Are they good? Well,
it's always the commentary. Oh. Actually, I should probably
bring that up. Why don't I just bring it up and read you the
the, the responses from that because he also comments on it.
And then his wife does as well. The interior designer. is funny.
Okay. Let's see.
unfriended you.
Hmm. I think they're afraid. They think they're afraid of the
onslaught. So here is this is the article from Vox another
fine, fine. Blog blog. It's not just Trump, colon. Islamophobia
in America is spiralling out of control. Yeah. And his comment
is, well, it's increasingly easy to imagine what 1930s Germany
was like. That's from the professor. And then his wife
chimes in and says, yeah, and unfortunately, Oh, these are the
only people who seem to vote anymore the crazies. That's why
the crazies Yeah, the crazies the
only ones who vote Yeah, the Yeah, the crazy Obama get in
office?
Well, this is this is their reality. Now this is my
favourite was the posting of this survey, which has been
debunked even in the comments. It was that he of his posting
the negative association between religiousness and children's
altruism across the world. And this study, which is easily
ripped, ripped to shreds, claims that children from non religious
households are more altruistic than religious children. And of
course, it's common
in sleep studies that I've seen involving charity. So exactly
the opposite something we have to study because those shows
kind of it shows exactly the opposite, right? But now this is
all a study showed.
This is a professor who deals in statistics in data. And his
comment is
easy. What he what he wanted that to be true. Yes, he wanted
it to be true. So I didn't realise he was such a bigot,
always a huge bigot. And his quote is, isn't religion
awesome? And then people come in and say, you know, come on, but
then his wife, she's the interior designer. The whole
reason they're back in California in my opinion, I just
got an email request from a stranger for a free paint colour
consultation, but it totes but it's okay because he closed with
God bless you. Oh, wait, I'm the atheist here. So I'm supposed to
be altruistic and work for free, right? Dang it. It's people are
insane, John, that's great. People are insane. This should
be a whole.
I do not become a member of Facebook. I get. I hear enough
of the nuttiness on Twitter but they limited 240 440 characters,
so I can feel that I don't have To really be hit, you know, it's
a broad sight. It's like being hit with a baseball bat right in
his stomach.
But we need a jingle I think for this.
Adam reads from Facebook.
Well, no, it should be the professor's Facebook post. Oh,
you're just gonna you're gonna specialise. I think we should
specialise on him. Because the guy is this it was a sought
after Stanford University. Got this guy, they pulled him away
now that he did it for the money wasn't enough, etc. His wife
wanted to be back in California. So and he's attacted to
California guy, and he's an East Texan. So you know, the poor
guy. But he's, you're seeing the corruption. And that sounds like
it fits right in if he asked me, Are you seeing the ruination of
a very smart intellectual? Into You know, just a knee jerk. Just
yeah, just going down to neat, but I mean, mean. Yeah, yeah.
Meaning and bigoted. When
you're when you're that when you're when your line of thought
is long that that's kind of this modern liberal style. And you
you're not getting your way you get mean. Yeah.
Yeah. And it doesn't matter what comment I just
was, like, telling me when I saw this with Amy Goodman and that
kibin guy that from three fifty.org Sitting there
steaming, he just and he was they weren't even talking about
anything negative there was, you know, denial, material, none of
that because they was just deeming about his existence
under the definition of bigots because they will not listen to
any others opinion. They just will not listen to it. And and
know
it hurts, it hurts to readjust. When you're in total cognitive
dissonance. We'd love to talk about I do anyway. Yeah. Well,
yeah, brain is completely fried. From a perspective that is
totally political and makes really makes zero sense. You
cannot be taken out of this because you will, you will have
to deal with the stupidity of your entire existence. You're
stuck Exactly. We try to keep people from getting into that
stuck mode. And that's what the show does. So people appreciate.
Well, it would be a big win if we could unstuck this guy. Now.
I don't think it's possible. So he says, anyway, on this Trump
article on the the GOP clown car rolls on by Matt Taibbi a couple
of comments and I say well, polls are bullcrap. And then he
comes back and says, Adam, are you saying that Republicans
don't actually support these clowns, even though the polls
say they do?
And then I say no, that got to do with the way you said. You
said polls are bullcrap. Yeah. So he's, what's his what's his
response?
His take is that the Republican, he says that the polls are
reporting all these Republicans who support these clowns. And
what he's asking is, does it mean that Republicans don't
actually support these clowns? Because the polls say they do,
but they're not because the polls are wrong. And remember,
this is a guy who deals with statistics. And I reply, I'm
saying polls funded by the same media organisations that report
them are used to rig the audience into believing
candidates standings. That's why Nate Silver looked like a genius
when he accurately predicted Obama over Romney, which poll
showed was a close race. Polling is used to entice campaigns more
money, more money into advertising, you're actually
going into dialogue, which directly
which goes directly to the media companies that create the polls.
Yeah, it's one of our thesis on the show his reply. Oh, no.
When we finally agree on something politically, then
whatever that means. A professor from Stanford University dropout
now dropped out of Stanford. Wow. Yeah.
I think we have you you're actually sound you'd like sound
like the reasonable one. Yeah. Like to an extreme.
This is when you know, we're in trouble when I'm the reasonable
one. It's time to wake the neighbours and grab the kids
and get Ben go to the gun store. weaponry.
All right, Ashton Carter. That's my last bit unless you have
something you want to slide in before then. It got nothing.
Yeah, Ashton Carter spent about three hours on the hill. Up
there talking about all things ISIS ISIL I said like it is
dynamische whatever, everybody. Yeah. And let's just see what it
was really about. We're at war. We're at war. John. Word War,
even though it's not declared.
Should be declared
using might have the finest fighting force the world has
never known,
this guy is a war monger.
10s of 1000s of US personnel are operating in the broader Middle
East region. More on the way. Some of our most advanced air
and naval forces attacking ISIL US troops are advising and
assisting ground operations in Syria. And Iraq. Cana
just went downhill from there. It just kept on going. Now I
have a question for you. This is, and this is it was kind of
funny how this came about. Now, the President has been very
clear that we have 65 nations on board.
Yeah, this is a this is in your craw
it is because I still can't come up with
60. When you get your list, you probably have a list, you keep
looking at it and trying to add other names, you can't do it,
it's very,
very hard to come up with
the 65 nations is the same as the 99.5. A bit exaggerated. And
what's
sad is that if now if we have 65 nations already on board, why?
Why do we have to now beg people that do something?
Listen to me have asked for the participation of special forces
of people to provide police training people to provide ammo
military assistance. People can provide enablers their various
enablers in which countries can contribute. They don't have to
necessarily be troops engaged in kinetic action
guide. Engaged
medical facilities, there are other assets that could be
deployed. There is intelligence gathering,
lab lab law.
So the guy keeps on saying, Well, you know, we need this. I
think the other clip I had, which didn't play Oh, yeah, here
it is. Now, the other clip that we didn't play the President is
actually talking about. We need people who can hand out band
aids. I'm not kidding. I'll find it for Sunday because it's in
the middle of another. I know if everyone's only and why is
Carrie begging? Why is he being everyone's begging? We need to
we need to be better somehow. And y'all make all this happen.
Tulsi Gabbard was also in this.
And it shut her up yet. Oh, and she looks great.
And she's very good. She's very calm. She knows what she's
talking about. She's a the Iraq and Afghanistan veteran, I
believe. But both does she now? Did she not fly a 10 z? I think
she did.
She was an A 10 warthog pilot,
bad ass badass mama. Badass, badass. And she leads Ashton
Carter down a path. I don't know if she I don't think she's
actually on this clip. But another word we had to look up
about the strategy, a declaration
of victory. It's indicated that it's where are we winning, Mr.
Secretary?
Oops, I'm sorry. Hold on. Oh, no, that's not the one. Sorry.
It is funny, though.
I'll get that one in a moment.
These are you winning over time,
we're going to win. Listen,
these special operators will over time be able to conduct
raids, free hostages, gather intelligence and capture ISIL
leaders. This force will also be in a position to conduct
unilateral operations in Syria. That creates a virtual virtuous
cycle of better intelligence, which generates more targets,
more raids, more momentum.
Okay,
virtual are virtuous.
Both well he corrected himself and wound up saying virtuous,
virtuous definition. moral, ethical, righteous, noble, not
accurate, no moral, ethical. So he's saying that by giving our
troops unilateral missions in Syria, which means without any
other partner, none of the 65 are participating. I guess it's
just us. We have the unilateral force. They're going to not just
kick ass but they're going to create virtuous intelligence.
What he said virtual then he said virtuous
Let's listen again, bludgeons which generators going back a
little bit further.
He meant virtue virtuous
cycle,
back, back ended up backing it up back in
that creates a virtual virtuous cycle.
virtuous cycle he meant to say
start with virtual and he said virtuous. He meant to say I
think this is neuro linguistic stuff. But he wants to implant
the idea of virtual and then drop in virtuous which has got
nothing to do with anything but
virtuous is better.
Yeah, but it's bullshit. No,
I don't think so. I think he actually is telling the truth.
This will create virtuous intelligence it will create
moral, ethical, righteous, noble intelligence. not accurate, but
righteous. Do you see?
Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, well, you're trying to
sow. I'm not trying. I'm gonna create bull crap. Yes, that is
cool. That is moral. Right that we can make you we can use to
leverage, you know, whatever we're going to leverage.
You guys full of shit. No. And then of
course, the real question a declaration that you victory
it's indicated that it's where are we winning, Mr. Secretary?
We will win. Are we winning now? We're going to win. Wow,
winning.
Pay the guy who's winning? The guy dropped the ball on this. He
said he said, Are we now? Are we winning or not winning? We will
we will win the guy. Right then the Senator. I think what the
Senator should have said when he should have said when Yeah, he
didn't know he didn't say that. Now you got cowed by the guys
really a nasty guy up there is
me Ashton Carter is super mean. Oh, yeah. It's a
very mean spirited and then horrible aihole that work for?
Of course, Putin, who I didn't know that in Europe, they call
him poular. Did you know that?
They can't put their Hudler. Yeah. Oh, that's just a
reference to Hitler. Yeah,
it's Putin and Hitler's poular look it up it's everywhere.
People call him pooler. I didn't know this was a thing Putin I
didn't either till now. Cooler, so pooler had his guys go up
there and Hudler. Hudler said hey, wait out man at
rifters growing between Russia and Turkey it's the Russian
Defence Ministry claims that has proof that Turkey is involved in
the trading of oil with ISIL militants officials released a
satellite pictures alleging they show oil tankers heading along
three roads from ISIL held areas to Turkey, raggedy Turkey as the
principal consumer of the soil stolen from us legitimate owners
story and Iraq says the deputy Defence Minister according to
inbound data, top Turkish leadership's involved in this
criminal business, including President Erdogan and his
family, he says pro government media and Turkey there's Balliol
his son Balliol,
who's running the oil. Yeah,
his son is a known smuggler,
he's running it, he's running it so they have dads helping so
they have photos
the claims as impossible, saying the rows shown by Russia are
controlled by Kurdish rebels and the Syrian army the Turkish
president also denied the claims
to get the TED Oh to get to Turkey
has not lost its moral values. We are not buying oil from a
terrorist organisation. He says gold we're watching Russia's
disproportionate reactions with sadness, while the whole world
accepts that we're right. We're taking it into alignment as
Russia Russia's reactions continue. He says we'll be
forced to take our own measures.
Yeah, oh, oh, nothing. Nothing, then you can't do anything. He's
not going to attack Turkey. But he has put them on notice. And
you know, now he's saying oh, that Turkish Stream? Yeah, I
don't think so. Probably not. And everyone's riling they're so
dumb in Europe, do you not know you are being peopled you are
being played? Hey, ya know, Germany should join in and
should reject that rejected North Stream to pipeline
Germany's gone would then know, no, a 9999.
And by the way, that if you go to high, you go to pooler and
look up the images, they must be Hudler or images on Google or
Bing both of them I get I'm being essentially this,
this standard tastic this thing about Turkey came up in the
State Department briefing.
I just want to mention abundance. It's a cooler thing
before we go on. Sure. This has got to be the biggest insult to
Russians who
pretty liberated, liberated liberated Europe,
I mean, not to the benefit of Europe necessarily but they're
the ones who were took the biggest beating from the from
the from the Nazis and did the best job of pushing them back
where they belong. To be called to be referenced in this way.
It's got to be somebody's dream this up this great insult. Great
insult. Hudler.
Ah Barbie doll. The cute Russian girl I'm not the one week whose
name we can't remember, but the other one whose name we can't
remember? Oh, the
second okay, her images show huge convoys with what Russia
says are oil trucks crossing the Turkish Syrian border unhindered
and one of the images shows and there are many shows 240 trucks
on the Turkish side of the border and over 40 similar
trucks on the on the Syrian side of
the road. You'll recall that we didn't blow up all of the trucks
because we ran out of ammo. Yeah, we ran bullets and
bullets. And someone ping me and want to have a beer with me
about that. So well, let me tell you about the A 10 is not the
point that should not have been in a 10 operation. That should
have been a strike. Blow it all out of the water operation. But
no, you can't do that. Because you might get air to one a
little bit pissed
off that it doesn't raise any red flags here. Well,
look, first of all, you know, look, I'm not going to speak to
the credibility of your satellite imagery. Like she's
KGB. Like since saying she's KGB right there. Your satellite
imagery you over there and Archie,
from this podium? Certainly. No, we've never said that oil
smuggling from ISIL is not a problem. What I'm trying to say
is that there's no Turkish Government complicit complicity
in some operations is to buy illegal oil from from ISIL. It's
just we just don't believe that to be true in any way, shape or
form. There are smuggling and there is smuggling that takes
place across that border. That's one of the reasons why we're
working with Turkey, to seal that border. But as to know the
scale of it, I don't have any estimates to give to you. Well,
one of the things
that they say is that there's no inspection of these vehicles. I
mean, when we think, you know, as my colleague David said, was
that, you know, these are large trucks and they you stop them.
And the fact is what the Russians are saying, nobody, I
guess the complicity would be the fact that they don't stop
and inspect these things. So that's what so what what is the
US been doing specifically on trying to stop the smuggling,
letting him go that oil getting into the international markets?
Well, again, that's something we're working with Turkey, I'm
not gonna outline the steps. Secretary Kerry spoke to it
earlier today. But you know, we are actively working on ways
that we can seal that border, that we can end these routes as
much as they exist, where smuggling may be taking place.
Yeah. Matt eventually comes in and the guy just keeps saying
no, this No, that's not true. It's just not true. It's not
true. There's no oil, nothing to see here. Move along. where of
course is oil is going to the Chinese into the EU, it's
going all over the place and somehow we're condoning it, or
we're behind it, and we're maybe the money behind it. Yeah,
we are behind we're behind. You know, we everyone's seen the
videos of us helicopters dropping supplies to ISIS. ISIL.
It's come on. The whole world knows that except us.
Yes, I think it was pointed out with some of the only a few of
the cartoons that are worldwide that was shown in the last
newsletter. People don't get the newsletter. You can see these
cartoons but they're fantastic.
And then another one that I love if Putin wasn't a big enough
conspiracy theorist to be thinking that the US and Turkey
are complicit in helping ISIL with their funding efforts.
Russia has now under their desirables law has banned George
Soros and his Open Society Foundations from operating in
Russia. Yeah, of course. But whenever you say Soros is it
creates trouble around the world and funds colour revolutions
you're called a conspiracy theorist
or the conspiracy theorists thing is just ridiculous. Yeah,
I mean, I think people should just reject the the term
and the Brexit and the Brits of course came out full right after
the vote. They immediately started bombing last night. Oh,
good. Yeah. One more clip with embalming.
Yeah, I want to hear this
British bombers have carried out their first airstrikes against
ISIL. In Syria just hours after MPs voted in favour of UK action
against the militants. Their four tornado jets took off from
RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus making a strike over Syria. According to
the Ministry of Defence, high precision laser guided Brimstone
missiles. I believe
there's the plug, look at how our missiles are doing we make
good stuff to yo
fight although the precise targets have not been revealed.
Lawmakers back Prime Minister David Cameron's call to target
voting in favour by 397 to 223. After a 10 hour debate in
Parliament,
we are NATO turning sand into glass. The result comes
as a blow to the leader of Britain's main opposition party,
Jeremy Corbyn, who's a pacifist and was against the bombing, a
total of 66 Labour MPs sided with the government
and of course, he'd be up passing. And of course, all of
this ultimately boils down to the money. We have two sides. We
have the Republican side we have the Democrats Democrat side. We
start with the Republican. I'm ashamed to say he is from the
great state of Texas. He's probably a nice guy, but he does
not know Jack and he's the chair of the Homeland Security
Committee. This is not okay to have this guy here or get the no
agenda Consulting Group, the curry Devora Consulting Group To
help him out. Congressman McCaul of Texas is a dick,
Chairman McCaul What lessons have we learned from the attacks
in Paris?
Well, there are several the Paris attack word is foreign
fighters. No, it's
not foreign fighters. It was not right off the bat. No, it was
not foreign fighters. They were French nationals.
But there are several the Paris attack or its foreign fighters,
so threatening to the region coming back. So we have 5000
Europeans with Western passports that have travelled to the
region. Many have come back, we have hundreds of Americans. And
many of them have come back to the United States.
This just didn't count. I mean, he was read in on something and
he just he doesn't, does he read a newspaper? Does he look at a
blog or anything? No, you
don't have time he's hidden. He goes, he leaves he goes to the
bar. This is a
disservice. He's just that this is a disservice to say, well,
you know, these are people who return no, it's not. I
do think the threat is far greater in Europe. Because of
the numbers. There are far more foreign fighters
travelling in and out of notice their foreign fighters now,
Europe to Iraq and Syria. My committee issued a bipartisan
task force report that the speaker and the leader now are
implementing the recommendations into legislation to help tighten
up security gaps both internationally and domestic. I
think as Adam talked about the ease of travel there they don't
check their citizens past watch list
they don't check their citizens past watch list. What is it past
watch list?
Right there what he's talking about.
I think a lot of that's going to change in the wake of the No
kidding. What about here in the homeland, homeland? Say America
baby homeland,
McCall what what do we really have to do you can't protect all
these soft targets?
Well, it's very difficult and we don't want this word soft
targets.
When they were talking about this event and saying oh soft
target. Target what is a soft target? A soft targets a soft
target, no target that has no protection. It can be easily hit
by as a soft target is like got no security it
means unarmored undefended, targets. soft target. Okay, soft
targets a soft target. But what's the what's the soft
target? Then there's security everywhere.
Everything's a soft target.
What what do we really have to do? You can't protect all these
soft targets? No,
I'm not soft.
Well, it's very difficult and we don't want difficulties foreign
fighters coming into the United States visa waiver countries.
We've had in the homeland eight team plots stopped
the ISO 900. Now,
we arrested 70 Isis followers. We have 1000 investigations in
all 50 states. I'll tell you one
thing 100,000.
appropriations bill coming up in about two weeks now. I think,
Oh, the FBI and components of Homeland Security will need an
increase in funding. To help combat this destruction. We see.
Money more money, more money and Adam Schiff, the Democrat in the
conversation since got it the same thing?
Is that the answer? Congressman Schiff,
well, you know, we certainly have resource challenges.
fortunate that we don't have enough money as correct anywhere
near the number of foreign fighters to track that Europe
does. At the same time, I think two areas where we can really
beef up our own security. One is the concerning vulnerability at
our airports. So all too often when we test the TSA, they don't
meet the test. And that has to
and that was one of the things I was gonna bring up pixeling
talking about shooting down of the Russian passenger jet or not
shooting down the explosion on board that that
what happened to Downing baby, you're not using the right
lexicon, there's
down the explosion on board that that we blame on ISIS that that
is pretty incredible. And we haven't talked about that a lot.
It is incredible. And if you look at the device that ISIS
claims have used, it's no larger than the size of a soda can that
can bring down an entirely that's accurate. I believe that
a device that small can bring down an aircraft and that means
we really have to tighten up our defence area I would mention to
you as well. Some have put a lot of focus on the refugees by and
large refugees have not been the problem. The real vulnerability
here is people with European passports, European citizens
that can travel without a visa to the United States. And we're
going to have to address that issue.
And they didn't do something. They changed the ESTA visa
waiver programme to connect more databases to each other. It's
really about read through the whole legislation. And it's
nothing it's like that, well, we're gonna have to connect the
databases make them look.
So they've really there's a date that's yeah, they talk a big
game about that. But every time they try it, then it's like the
incompatibilities between every study just a few differences.
It's not like They're all using the same you know software
they're not No of
course not. That would be a reason to instal new software
and for everybody more money, more money more money more money
pooler Oh, Ash cart. Ash Carter did say something he actually
admitted something about the oil transports I forgot to play here
we go next
in the south of Syria. We're also taking advantage of
opportunities to open a southern front on ISIL. Now this
is interesting. Get your maps out look at mozal Look at Raka
and then look at Sinjar
by enabling fighters trained and equipped by us and other
coalition partners to conduct strikes inside Syria. We're also
enhancing the border control and defences of a key ally, Jordan,
additional military assets and assistance. Oh, okay didn't know
that. In northern Iraq. Peshmerga units, with the help
of us airpower and advisors have retaken the town of Sinjar,
cutting the main line of communication between Raka and
Mosul.
This is interesting because I believe Mosul is where the oil
is transported from to raka for refining, refining, and then off
up to air to Juan's kid there in Turkey. up so now we're going to
be the gatekeeper somehow in cynjohn. If you look at the toll
pay tall pay and
tall the two largest cities under ISIS control to move
people and supplies ISIL must now rely on back roads where we
locate and destroy them.
Aha, we shall see.
All right. All right enough, another depressing show. No.
Well, then why don't I ended with we're all gonna die. That's
true. I'll end with that. Okay,
we can pick up the pace by having some funny stuff at the
end.
I'm going to try that to make everybody happy who came along
for the show.
Now it's raining like it's really raining. So they were
right. 100% Well, there you have it.
There you go. It does happen. I don't keeps calling me.
Somebody's calling you here from Hartford, Connecticut.
It's a business spammer. Yeah, they won't stop. That's a
spammer. Yeah, typical. should answer in a robotic voice.
I'm not. I have no time I'm doing a show. Doing a show.
I take my phone off. I use a landline. Be that a Bakelite?
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