You're a boasting. Yeah, you're boasting a whole. Yeah. Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, October 22 2018. Time once again via gizmo nation
media assassination episode 767. This is no
agenda taking
full responsibility for the rain stick Sorry, not sorry. And
broadcasting live from the capital of the drone Star State
and people region six Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry, and from
Northern Silicon Valley, where I can say you heard what he said,
I'm John C. Dvorak. Hill.
As in you didn't understand what I said.
No, it's as in as in I'm take full responsibility for the
rains. I do.
I do and I and we were shaking it and finally last night rain
came shaken and bacon, and the difference is remarkable. It
sounds like you're sick as a dog. I'm so sick, man. I've been
in bed almost since Sunday, pretty much all the time. Or why
do you? Why do you laugh about my
make such a difference? Well, the difference is remarkable.
Yeah,
I sound like crap. Now everybody, congratulations. Oh,
man has been so bad. That Lisa
explained is what happened to
rain came when the rain came the rain came coming very
hard to Yeah, well, we shook it a
lot. So sorry, not sorry. I needed that rain
and the rain wiped out the pollens and goo but that started
last night. So I say it wasn't time to say
oh, no, no, I'm I am coughing it's I'm completely blocked
congested. Thank you all so much for your 1000s of helpful tips.
A lot of interesting things people recommend Yes, like what
oh, you know, eat local honey. I've heard that one before.
Yeah, well, that's
true. But that's for allergies. And for the problem with the
honey theory and i By the way, that honey thing people swear by
it my wife does she's she's allergic to Acacio and if she's
local acacia honey doesn't want German acacia honey she her
allergies go almost down to nothing doesn't work for me. The
problem is is not going to work with you. Because there's no
such thing as mould. Honey, I know a dear Would you like some
mould Honey, honey?
You know people recommending all kinds of shots. Yeah, no, I'm
not gonna go get an injection now shots in order. It helped a
lot actually was Aleve strangely enough.
Believe. Yeah,
it did help out, man. It's been so bad, John.
Well, you're okay now? Well, better because the rains came if
the
rain Yeah, I'll get better now. Holy crap. I saw my next door
neighbour in the hallway. I said, Hey, just how you doing?
Man? I feel horrible. It says, Yeah, I'm all jacked up on an
allergy meds. I don't really know what I'm doing. People just
floating around stoned on allergy meds. Screw that, man.
Screw it. I hate it.
Yeah, it's a short lived phenomenon. And it's actually
quite amusing. I think it's helped
except it's been going on for three weeks now. This is the
third week. We've
had some rain by now. Yeah. Well, thank
goodness. And we're here. And while we're doing the show, of
course. The big Ghazi hearings taking place on the hill. So
well, it'll be available to us on the C span website.
It's going to be it's going to be hours and hours. I'm sure of
it.
Yeah, I do actually have a little background on it. Do we
play just to catch up so we can talk about the next show? This
is the Benghazi rundown,
rundown or preview preview. Sorry,
it's not a premeditated response to what had transpired in Cairo.
But Republicans charged to the White House knew almost
immediately Benghazi was a terror attack and concealed it
to protect President Obama's reelection campaign. The
administration insisted Ambassador Rice was speaking
from the best information available at the time. Four
months later, then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took on
Senate Republicans at a hearing. The fact is
we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest? Or is
it because of guys out for a walk one night or decided they'd
go kill some Americans?
What difference at this point does it make it is our job to
figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it
from ever happening again,
the incident launch parallel investigations by the FBI, the
State Department and Congress to do just that. One was by an
independent Accountability Review Board appointed by
Secretary Clinton and headed by retired former ambassador Thomas
Pickering. That December it issued a stinging report on what
happened that night. And it called the consulate security
posture inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal
with the attacks.
Are we going to hear from any of those the other witnesses Do you
remember they they shuttled? I don't know it was it the guys
who was when he fired? Yeah, 25 or 30 people, they shut him off
to Germany lickety split. And they
told him to shut up. And we have not heard from any of those
people have we I wonder myself, this whole thing could be a
giant scam
was deficient in security supplies, it was probably
deficient in the security Manning of the post. There were
ongoing security problems in Benghazi, which we felt should
have alerted the department to deal with those issues. Many of
the questions presented to the department were answered in the
negative when they probably should have been positively
responded to. And are
you saying there were requests for additional security there
and they were denied
was an ongoing request for additional security and a number
of them were not, were not responded to properly and
positively Yes,
I love that the the language that guy uses. He says they were
not responded to positively.
He's a bureaucrat. Exactly.
The Pickering review cited quote, systemic failures and
leadership and management deficiencies have the State
Department, a consulate that was severely under resourced with
regard to certain needed security equipment, and to short
term staff rotation that resulted in diminished
institutional knowledge, continuity and mission capacity.
Pickering said the review board closely examined whether the US
military could have scrambled forces elsewhere to the attack
site.
And it was very clear to us that the nearest assistance was
called upon right away but the requirement to mobilise aircraft
and move those Marines in Spain was not sufficient to get it
there in time.
Three State Department officials resigned immediately after the
report. The report did not fault Secretary Clinton
knew it takes so long to get around to doing another one.
He's full on hearings. There's so much that we've forgotten
does you know and so much that has been swept under the rug.
Where Why doesn't anyone ever bring up the reports about the
ambassador being sodomised with a broom handle dragged through
the streets?
That will come up in the conversation at all, but it is
factually correct. We'll all seem so
this will just be one big waste of time a shit show for six
hours watching nothing but lies.
Well, they'll be making some shot, you know, the Trey Gowdy
Oh, come up and ask some poignant question and one of the
Democrats of apologists, you know, just trying to make sure
Hillary gets into office Trey Gowdy amens are one of
these guys. Trey Gowdy was raked over the coals. Oh, yeah. No,
they're targeting him. Yeah. Here's James Carville. He's one
easy.
He's a he's an operative? Yes.
We call that a Democrat consultant. But he's a Clinton
operative. And he knows exactly who's behind all this Benghazi
stuff. Trey
Gowdy is a creation of the Koch brothers. In a whole climate
denial industry in this committee, who's nothing for the
creation of Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers. Fox ran over
1000 segments in 20 months after this thing. This is a taxpayer
funded understand taxpayer funded potterson operation that
they run in there. All they interested in, is driving her
phone numbers down. They've admitted as much. It's just a
fact. And it's Oh, he is a he got into Congress. Because the
Koch brothers putting that Yeah, well, I can find your body facts
about the connection between law I'm fine with that. Check. It
all was a result of pressure from Rupert Murdoch and the Koch
brothers. Brothers with Trey Gowdy, come from all of this
stuff is in the public record. There's no doubt about it. You
can fact check me we
will follow up games and Congressman Gowdy is welcome to
come on and
ask him ask him about how much money the Koch brothers getting
anyway on the best podcast and the
facts, nothing but facts. He never talks about where
Hillary's campaigns donations come from. Saudis. Saudis fact,
Saudis.
Then I can invite him back if he's that obnoxious. No, no.
Huh. Well, the biggest news is a lot. There's a lot but I think
Pierre Pierre, Pierre, Justin Trudeau, from connect
Scandinavia. Yeah, we have to cover this because we have a
large Canadian audience and they wonder what
we think this is an interesting guy, for sure.
Well, a male kind of a male. A hunk. Yeah, he's
a good looking guy.
He also likes to take his shirt off and he boxes boxed in the
ring with some other political guy and he beat the crap
But he's just another part of a dynasty, which is what we
worldwide problem. Yeah, a worldwide problem the dynasty,
why would you? Was he really the best guy for the job?
Well, that's not the way Canadian works. Oh, sorry. Is
that the best?
Oh, yeah, that's the way it works in our place. Yeah, sure,
it works great here.
The way the Canadian system works, if you're not familiar
with it, I am not listening, is they have various parties that
come and go, some of them disappear. Some of them come out
of the blue. And they have an election every year for all the
different people that are going to be the ministers. And the
party that gets the most votes, is the majority party and if
they get all enough votes, and they can take over the place,
they don't have to be have a coalition with anyone, which is
very similar to England. And it's it's very similar in this
way to the leader of that party, who's had to get himself to the
position of leadership of that party. Right. He becomes just
coincidentally gets to be Prime Minister guy. Yeah, that's kind
of how a parliamentary system works. And so that's what
happened with this guy because he were wormed his way into the
lead because he's a good, he's, well, he's a good looking guy.
And there's a lot of the whole Well, let's play I have let's
play a couple of run downs for people, international audience
or even Americans for that matter that don't know quite
what happened is I have to run does have one Democracy Now,
which is probably superior to the NBC News. So let's play the
run down on Democracy Now. I bought cooperation
during the process of transition in the coming days.
A recent headline in The Guardian, dubbed Harper quote,
the last remnant of George W. Bush in North America. Under
Stephen Harper Canada became the only country to withdraw from
the Kyoto Protocol, the international agreement setting
reduction targets on carbon emissions Harper slash the
funding of environmental Canada, environmental programmes,
federal scientists were speaking publicly.
That rundown is is too much running down Harper. Let's play
the Trudeau run down to NBC, which is actually the story.
The US presidential campaign, of course has been underway for
months and still has more than a year to go but Canada has just
chosen a new leader in a campaign that lasted a mere 11
weeks, and that's long for them. But winter in an upset is 43
year old Justin Trudeau a relative newcomer to politics,
but one with a legendary name and he promises to big changes,
and VCs gave good to eras has his story.
I have a simple message for you. On behalf of 35 million
Canadians. We're back.
Just Justin Trudeau is Canada's future and its past. The son of
Pierre and Margaret Trudeau, the charismatic former prime
minister and his former flower child bride, Canada's glamorous
power couple in the 70s and 80s. Justin grew up in that spotlight
last night, claimed it for himself. His Liberal Party
winning us stunning upset.
It's time for a change in this country, my friends are real.
Trudeau is 43 married to a former television host and
model. He got into politics just eight years ago after trying his
hand as a snowboard instructor, a nightclub bouncer and a high
school teacher. His critics called his resume thin being
Prime Minister is not an entry level job. But Trudeau insisted
he was ready and the voters agreed, sending conservative
incumbent Stephen Harper packing. The people are never
wrong. Trudeau promises to cut taxes, spend billions to boost
the economy, act against climate change, legalised marijuana and
lead the US led air campaign against ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
Why should Americans care about Canadian politics?
You now have a Canadian government that is politically
more in line with the American government. Does that mean
better relations relations have always been good, but they've
actually not been so great. Of late? Will they now get better?
That's why American should care.
Perhaps a little Northern Star gave us here is NBC.
You know, there's a lot of speculation about Justin Trudeau
on the alternative sites about a surprise Yeah, but the headlines
such as is Justin Trudeau, a product of mind control. Of
course, he was educated at the London School of Economics,
which is creepy. A bunch of creeps there. Yeah.
Well, he has they tried to go after him at the very end
because he was starting to win because the NDP was actually
ahead at the beginning, New Democratic Party which was the
most liberal and I would just bring this up, because if you go
to go to ndp.org, or no, no nd p.ca Okay. And then the C was
this guy.
Hey, go what are you looking for? Tom? Mulcair
Yeah, Tom that dude slash Tom. Oh, sure. It's
not fun. No, it's
Tom has a T. Tom is No, Tom. Oh, Tom story, okay. Okay. And I go
down a few photos and he has a very I think this guy. I watched
him give a speech. And I think there's a there's a lot of
gayness at the top of Canadian politics. And this guy in
particular,
they're descendants of Britain. Hello. Very guy. This
guy in particular is here's his speech. He doesn't have the list
that
that is required that is required.
But he has this you have to imagine this guy speaking he's
got that full beard. If you look at that second photo down where
he's got that precious look on his face. Yeah. He, he he purses
his lips, he tilts his head. Yeah, he has all the earmarks of
a guy who's mind controlled. Be out of the out of the closet.
One of the play a candidate, says Tabata Tom Mulcair. This is
his little speech,
unwavering in our pursuit of better health care for
Canadians, we will stand strong in our fight against climate
change, to protect our land, air and water. And we will be
resolute in our efforts to build a true nation to nation
relationship with First Nations, Inuit and maytee. Peoples.
So when actually when did you actually get started? Yeah,
crank it up.
It's on these priorities and on many more, that New Democrats
will make real and lasting progress in this new parliament.
With this election, Canadians have asked us all to work for
them. We will not let them down.
Have you received any feedback from our candidate avian
producers out there? What were their feeling is on the guy
on who? Judo. Yeah, everybody. They don't like anybody that
Canadians are just you know, they don't like people. But
especially foreigners Harper is such an extreme. Anybody. Yeah,
is fine. Because Harper was just finally they got everyone got
fed up with the guy because he's a douche.
Did I understand the Trudeau said he was going to cut
Canada's participation in the Joint Strike Fighter. Oh,
no, he's out. Yeah. He's pulling out of the ISIS
bail. That's, that's not very friendly. Well, he
just doesn't think that things work. I think he probably I have
no idea what he's thinking but he doesn't mean that's
what I mean. It's it's the right thing to do. Because it's,
yeah, well, he's out the Canadians who haven't been in
the kind of in bed with us in wars necessarily right,
including the first Iraq war I believe. Anyway, let's go back
to how this guy guy got in this guy is a he's a pretty boy. The
Canadians want to imply that he's gay, but this is the
Liberals want to net the Liberals but the conservatives
want to imply that he's gay because they made a big point of
him being a drama teacher. And this was brought up in some of
the ads always a drama teacher and if you listen to him talk
play this. Play the Trudeau lisping, thank you speech my
friends.
We beat fear with hope we beat cynicism hard work.
Do you really want to do this because now I'm gonna be talking
like this the whole film
negative divisive politics with a positive vision that brings
Canadians together most of we defeated the idea that Canadians
should be satisfied with less that good enough is good enough
and that better just as impossible. Wow. My friends this
is Canada and in Canada we live better is always
so so really they do you think that every targeted campaign
targeted?
Yeah, they were trying to do that implication but the problem
is he's married to this beautiful woman who he freely
kisses constantly Yeah, and she's quite attractive and he's
got three kids and he's got all these you know, things that but
he's still got this this horrible Sylvester the cat sound
that is completely out of control. And it's actually quite
funny. Now they better you know, one of the things that Harper
managed to do up in Canada was get rid of this hour has 22
minutes to this for this famous show that and marginalise it so
it's not important anymore. They got a break. Net show back just
to have somebody do this guy's voice because it's very funny.
Yeah, the Punahou a satire. Now he, whether he's gay or not, I
don't know. Or by three kids do
Canadians care?
The Fairly the conservatives do, yes. And the religious do. So a
lot of Canadians do care, but they don't care so much that
they rather have him in there than Harper. Right. And he's
not, you know, flaunting except for the fact he can say
politics, politics. I don't know. It's hard to say. I mean,
he's he's definitely a rank amateur. But there was a couple
of good kind of discussions about him on Democracy Now.
Okay. And I think the one to play which I have here is one on
first name, or actually this play this one. He was all in on
this law up in Canada, which we don't talk about down here. But
the C 51 Is
the Patriot Act. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, play it. Okay.
During a debate in August, Justin Trudeau expressed support
for the controversial anti Terrorism Act of 2015, known as
the C 51. Surveillance law, it's called Canada's Patriot Act.
The Government of Canada and the prime minister is expected to do
to do two things by Canadians. The first one is to keep us
safe. The second is to uphold and defend our rights and
freedoms. Now, Mr. Harper doesn't think we need to do
anything more to protect our rights and freedoms. And Mr.
Mulcair, with his position on counterterrorism laws, doesn't
think we need to do anything more on security. The liberal
party has been very clear, we need to do both of them
together.
That's Justin Trudeau. In a debate in August, Pamela
Perlmutter talk about the C 51 Surveillance Act.
So that was one of the biggest criticisms of the liberal party
when when Justin Trudeau was running was his support for Bill
C 51. And some of the people that were running for the
Liberal Party were viciously defensive of Bill C 51. Whereas
other liberal candidates were saying, Look, we're once we get
in, we're going to make amendments to make sure
democratic rights and freedoms are protected to make sure that
first nations aren't particularly targeted. So it's
going to depend where he goes from here with this legislation.
So if he just supports the legislation as is, which is a
clear violation of our Constitution, the Charter of
Rights and Freedoms that his father brought in all First
Nation, aboriginal and treaty rights and international human
rights. I mean, it's really the most defensive legislation
Canada has ever enacted in this country. And if he does
something about it, then I think he could really build some
goodwill that he's committed to protecting democratic rights and
freedoms as well as First Nation rights.
If I could just add to that he voted for it in Parliament, it
is a law now it's not. So it wasn't something just discussed
in the election. The Liberals supported it in Parliament, they
tried to amend it, but of course, the Conservatives had a
majority. And this is very concerning, because there's
nothing in Bill C 51, that's needed to protect candidate
security. The only reason they voted for it was because at the
time, it was very popular. And then groups like open democracy.
campaigned against it. Lots of groups campaigned against it,
and public opinion shifted. So by the beginning of the election
campaign, it was no longer popular, but the liberals had
already voted for it. So this is what I mean about what you know,
what the concern is about the Liberals is they're willing to
do anything, not anything, they're willing to move and
shift to do what's popular, but when push push comes to shove,
they're still a corporate party, their party that's mostly
supported by corporations financially or have been in the
past. And, you know, they have a bad history. Now. Maybe Trudeau
can change that. And I'm with Pam, I'd like to be hopeful.
It's kind of hard. When you know that history and C 51 is a good
example of it. Right?
It's exactly what you want to do. You want to bring a cool guy
in who promise all kinds of things that he'll fix and
change, but he won't know he won't know he's not going to do
that. Because you have to go kiss the Queen's ring soon. I
mean, if you're just you have to go and get his approval or Oh,
you mean the England? Yes. I presume I presume that
there's some there's some there's some process. Yeah,
well, yeah,
I think he has to go and and say howdy.
Yeah. How did how would he queen? There was a woman there
on Democracy Now. That was the representative of indigenous
people of Canada. And now we have to know that the Canadians
relationship with their with their Indians, their tribes was
a lot different than ours. For one thing the Indians in Canada
or natives or native peoples are first persons. What do you want
to first person? First, first, first, first,
first things first people of course peeps. Oh gee, peeps, who
were
really a tough group. I mean, there were there were I mean,
it's not as though the Apaches were slouches with these guys
are, and they were funded by the by the British. And they tend to
be tough to this day. And there's always been there's been
a war between the country of Canada and their Indians, their
indigenous people,
constantly. They the Canadians didn't do it, right. They didn't
kill them like we did.
You didn't, you gotta like get rid of the problem earlier, I'll
be honest with the Canadians, because they're right. We'll get
a number of letters from our Canadian producers who will give
us give us better information. Yeah, but let's play this little
break down. This was a woman who representative represented a lot
of the indigenous and she was discussing this this is Trudeau
First Nations, right First Nations the
Opie's?
Well, I think you know, for most First Nations, there's a
collective sigh of relief that Harper's gone. I mean, like you
said, he's been the worst environmental disaster
democratic, right disaster, and he was the, you know, epic enemy
of First Nations. And so what you have with Prime Minister
Trudeau is the possibility for change, he really has an
opportunity to be a leader in First Nation issues,
environmental issues and democratic rights and freedoms,
versus a politician. So he has the opportunity, we have to give
him a little time to see if he's going to do it. However, he does
come from a very problematic liberal legacy. His father was
the one who introduced the 1969 white paper, which would have
essentially racist clearly annihilated Indians and reserves
and treaty rights. And all of that, which was, you know,
brought about massive national protests by First Nation
leaders. And I mean, but to his credit, he's distancing himself
from from his father's policy, and he's saying he wants to do
it differently. A nation to nation relationship, which is
key for First Nations because First Nations consider
themselves to be sovereign with their own laws and
jurisdictions. So,
you know, his dad, Pierre, dated Barbra Streisand.
Yeah, he was a real Bolivar and Margot Kidder. Imagine growing
up his wife is better looking than the other two of them
imagine
growing up in Barbra Streisand's wild walking around in the
house.
I think that was before he was born. I could be wrong. Maybe
not. Ballmer would, but you'd have to imagine he was at the
Trudeau had this anti in the native people, that First Nation
policy that was very popular. Well, was popular until then
there was an uprising. And I remember this vaguely when I was
a kid that these these Indians were burning up to play. They
were creating havoc in Canada. They had all the Canadians had
to back off. Do you think that we'll see a repeat you think
that? Well, here's the thing. He was brought up at a dinner table
where there was a probably a lot of grousing going on? Yeah. And
I would think that he said, Well, I stopped me. I think that
it might be in bull it's possible that he, you know, got
around this and he wants to make make a man's I don't know, all I
know is that this is easy. They're going to do absolutely
nothing, which is what I would guess because that's what they
always do. They talk a big game, and then nothing happens, you
know, take that to the bank, which is probably the smartest
thing to do. Because you can't really you can just keep putting
it off, putting it off. Putting it off, put it off, get most
nightclothes out, take it to the band. But this debate, this
discussion is interesting to me, because it's going to change a
little bit at least change Canada a little bit. Okay. Is
that the end of that? Yeah, that's all
I got. Well, do you have more on Trudeau or can we move over?
All right, we're just getting ready. One more thing on
Trudeau. That was what I
want to hook into the sea 51
I think we can be I think Trudeau is is going to be
entertaining for us. It did give us a little bit more than Harper
was very. Canadians always bitching at us. Oh, you guys
never covered Canada. And
there you go. We covered Canada. It was it was borderline boring.
But we covered Canada.
Yeah, well, it's actually not as boring as you know. I'm
just kidding, John. I'm just kidding. I hit it not boring at
all. What are you hoping to see 51 In the United Kingdom Gitmo
nation east the beta test for all things shut up slave. They
finally released their extremism strategy that or I should say
the counter extremism strategy, white paper. And in that we have
a full on definition of extremism and We also have a
clip here from Theresa May the Home Secretary, who of course is
responsible for keeping the home safe, the homeland safe. From
the Document first chapter one, the threat from extremism. Here
we go. The, this is the definition, John, you'll want to
pay attention. Because we are going to be in violation of
this, I'm sure many times in the future. extremism is the vocal,
or active opposition to our fundamental values, including
democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty, and the
mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs.
There's nothing in here about free speech. For note, yeah,
it's all about free speech and how you don't have it. We also
regard calls for the death of members of our Armed Forces as
extremist life in our country is based on fundamental values that
have evolved over centuries values that are supported and
shared by the overwhelming majority of the population, and
are underpinned by our most important local and national
institutions. These values include the rule of law,
democracy, individual liberty, and the mutual respect tolerance
and understanding of different faiths and beliefs. So this is
this tolerance mean, which is an EU wide thing that's been going
on. But probably, you know, we'll see that here too,
tolerance, bullying all of this. That really, they've, they're
taking away your ability to be vocal about fundamental values
of Great Britain. And Theresa May is going to try and explain
this on one of the morning shows. She's going to give a
couple of examples
in what is a very wide ranging counter extremism strategy that
we're launching today. And we're launching that because we do
face an unprecedented threat from extremism. Groups like ISIL
can put their consent through the internet, their message of
their perverted message of hatred into family homes, we see
men and women and indeed whole families going out to Syria, I
think that shows us that we need to step up our action to counter
extremism. What we're saying today is that we need to do
more, and we need to do more to counter the message of extremism
and counter that message of extremism across the board.
We've seen last week for example, significant rises in
reported hate crimes. And so what does hate crimes gotta love
it actually talks about is dealing with extremism of all
sorts. So Islamist extremism, but also Neo Nazis, those who
are promoting messages of hatred and division. This is this is
complicated, or as we would say, a slippery slope. If you're
communicating messages of hatred, so you can't hate
anybody anymore. In the UK, you can't say, hey, those guys suck.
I don't know how that expense explains a soccer hooliganism.
Well, that is the neo Nazi Party, there'll be they gotta be
rolling people up all day and night, every soccer game in our
country football game, it is
we need to deal with that too. And today is a recognition that
there is more that we need to do, in order to counter these
messages of hatred, these messages of division that the
extreme is are promoting. But we also want to work with
communities to promote mainstream voices, and to build
more cohesive communities. So it's very much looking and I've,
I've seen from the work that I've done already the excellent
work that is being done. So in terms of parents, what we're
saying is that we would extend the ability for parents who are
concerned about their youngsters, perhaps going off to
Syria, perhaps getting involved in fighting, if they go to join
Iceland. It's a terrible, brutal regime. And so there's a
safeguarding issue for parents there. So their ability to
actually say to the authorities, please could you withdraw the
passport but of course, at the other end of the spectrum, if
you like, the police also have a new ability, a new power, which
came in earlier this year, to remove passports temporarily
from people when they're at airport when they are about to
travel, and the police are concerned about them.
You can't you can't travel, you can't go anywhere.
You know, there's a couple of things that strike me one is the
cohesiveness and then a diversity and we'll see how that
works. But the other thing is about the way they promote or or
try to dis promote the the ISIL group as a brutal regime that
you can go there and the next thing you know you're dead.
Yeah. And generally speaking for one thing, there's a lot of
people following these guys so there's they do have a group of
followers and their army is doing whatever it does, they'll
take areas even on maybe a front for some intelligence groups. In
the in in any war. One of the things that is always a problem
for aihole leadership is a thing you know, I think it referred to
as fragging, where you shoot the guy, you have a gun and it
happens to In Vietnam was it was scandalous How many guys were
shot by friendly fire accidentally, sometimes in the
back of a head as they were Come on, man, let's go do this and
then you know, next thing you know the guy was dead by
accident. fratricide and it was or a grenade would go off by him
or something. I mean there's you don't these types of brutal
military operations, I think are I think this is just it's just
propaganda I don't think it's as bad as they say. I think these
guys would be dropping left and right to be killing each other.
I agree with you. Now this this is and it also is a part of the
Strong Cities Network this this ties into it even following
this. No Strong Cities network.org And this is a notch
funded by the US State Department. And the cities
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Rotterdam, Victoria, Stockholm, Copenhagen, condo, Montreal,
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local level approaches to prevent violent extremism
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And by Yeah, this is Rumble Stream ism in Denver Yeah, yeah.
Hey man whatever no my pot
but I think you have to see it as a as interconnected with you
know, that we're seeing a Canadian cities we're seeing
British cities are failing us cities, France, a French cities.
And you know, there's this you know, I guess we're putting our
guys in to train people to catch extremists and people who are
troublemakers pretty much if you're vocally opposed to the
values
Yeah, all they're doing is managing the catch complainers.
I don't think there's enough I don't know. It's just a you
know, this idea that this is an attack on free speech.
Everything that you've talked about since the beginning of
this segment? Yes. Well, that's why I'm talking about it because
that's it's an attack on free speech exactly
what it is. Here the Strong Cities Network Sen has been
created to achieve a focused and rapid exchange of ideas and
methods to strengthen the safety, security and cohesion of
communities and cities. The Strong Cities Network will
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all sounds like a dashboard of the municipal level good
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Network member cities will be eligible for grants supporting
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Yeah, it's a money grab.
By God it's also to tell people to shut up
Yeah, anything to get people to shut up it's really annoying to
have to listen to people complaining not good.
Not good at all. Okay. So we have this interesting story
about a so called 15 year old stone kid who hacked into John
Brennan's email personal rounder on this you got a background or
Okay.
Which one died by the way, they got all of these from the I got
all these background and I got all of them the three by three
networks.
Oh, hold on a second three by three. What's done both free
experiment by JC comparing story from ABC
bam, there you go. The Big Three by three.
Now. Three by three. The three networks. It's funny, I know.
There's a new observation I'm gonna make.
Is it really fun day? Is it really funny?
It's hilarious. Okay, on Monday. It is. Almost almost all three
of the networks on Monday have the exact same stories. It's
strange. We had a week every other day. They're all over the
place. But on Monday, all the stories are pretty much the
same. And it's pretty amusing because anybody would end up
Brandon's story was one of them. This is the night so I had I
looked at all three of them. I said the CBS report seems to be
the best. So this is the email hacker rundown on CBS. I think
it was the best of the three. The personal
emails of two of the highest ranking national security
officials have been hacked CIA Director John Brennan, and
Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, and anonymous hacker
has been bragging about breaking into the accounts, but now,
multiple law enforcement sources have told us the breaches
actually occurred. Jeff, the gaze is breaking this new
development in our Washington newsroom.
Scott, this is a criminal investigation and authorities
are working to locate the suspect he seems to be feeding
off the publicity and that's in part why investigators are
reluctant to talk about it but multiple law enforcement
officials tell CBS News that he had unauthorised access to both
private email accounts. Late in the day, the person tweeting
under the handle of CWA followed through on threats to release
sensitive information.
I like CWA by the way, crackers with attitude, very cool,
you know, we don't lie. What you have all been waiting for. Sorry
for the delay. Along with that statement came in attachment
with the names, social security numbers, and phone numbers of
about 20 people said to be affiliated with the head of the
CIA. In fact, the unidentified hacker who claims to be a high
school student says the information came from the
private email account of CIA Director John Brennan, whoever
it is also claims to have hacked into the private email account
of Homeland Security Secretary Jay Johnson. Throughout the day
that hacker appeared to be taunting the officials and
others in government. We are not doing this for personal
satisfaction. We are doing this because innocent people in
Palestine are being killed daily. Now,
it goes on by Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Well, a couple of things that we know, first of all, anyone who
has an AOL account for their email, you're just a loser no
matter what. Just right off the bat, you know, like, Are you
kidding me? This appeared to have been a dormant account,
though. And I found it surprising. The right on the
heels of the of the news that Julian Assange would no longer
be locked in the embassy with police guard 24/7 outside wiki,
Wiki Leaks goes ahead and publishes this information,
including his his background check Forum, which has a lot of
personal information. I didn't redact it. So it was address,
you know, as kids is, whereas in laws living, which, to me, you
know, I think we've collectively always had a suspicion that
WikiLeaks is more aligned with CIA than, than anyone cares to
admit. So it was interesting that Wikileaks did that. I mean,
there's no real discernible value to to the emails that came
out. You know, they all were from 2008 2009 When before
Brendan became enlisted as a civil servant. So not
necessarily like a Hillary email thing. But then I'm already
like, why is this happening? What is going on? And why are we
Why do we have some stoner kid, you know, who's being blamed for
this? And we'll leave it to one of our dopey Texans. Sorry to
say it because I wanted to like this guy, for personal reasons.
Mike McCaul, who was the chairman of the thing is Chad,
he's the new chairman of the Homeland Security Committee.
He's the Republican here in Texas.
Is he making the call? Is he okay? Yeah, he's the guy. Is he
the guy to call from Mike Rogers? Yes.
He's the new guy. Okay.
There's the Intelligence Committee. The Homeland Security
is different intelligence. I'm sorry. And he is a tow. I don't
know why you said that. Because we've talked about this guy on
the show before and I called him out as a douchebag. Right. He
refused to look at Feinstein's report. Yes. Which was kept is
kept in a locked room. And anyone can Congress can go read
it. It's about the bit about the CIA torture programme, right.
And anyone could go read it. And only Democrats have read it.
These Republican won't read it. The guy and this guy made a big
point of it. I'm going to be the head. Wait, let me get this
straight. I'm going to take over from my garage. I'm going to be
the head of the Intelligence Committee for the House. The
House Intelligence Committee, I guess is called oversight
committee. Yeah. And I'm not I'm going to not read this. Well, he
kind of a guy is this I would do that. Let's see. He's a
douchebag. Well,
not only that, he didn't read his script, and he went on with
broth. Now, let me ask you just a side question. Has anyone
actually been implicated in the OPM, the Office of Personnel
Management hack and the theft of possibly up to 20 million?
No. And I want to said you mentioned it that's what I was
where I was going. I don't think this guy this kid. If it was a
kid, it could be anyone, let alone a stoner. I don't believe
this kid did anything other than get a hold of the OPM files
because there's all this information seems to me. There's
what OPM what OPM files are Jim Brennan's OPM file. Yeah, right.
All the OPM files is a big valid 4 million people in all this.
Yeah, no, no, no, hold on, hold
on. He got he got Brennan's security clearance form, which
is the same in that file, right. But but it was in his email.
That doesn't make sense. It was it was called it was the if you
look at the WikiLeaks release, it's called draft. What is it,
whatever the form number is, and it was his draft of his form
that he was sending in because this was before he was in
the agency. Yeah. And he's going to do it over email. Uh huh.
I'm just telling you what the what we have, and I know what
you're saying. Okay. So
it has, that's the way it's presented. But I think this is
just some data that was pulled from the OPM hack. Well, I think
whoever this person is, as part of that deal.
Well, you're faster than I could get to it in your analysis. I
think you're right. And it is Dumbo. Let's call it non
douchebag, but Dumbo, Michael McCaul, who blows the script
entirely.
First of all, you know, who was responsible for this hack?
And not at this point in time, Wolf. But the idea that John
Brennan's personal emails could be vulnerable to a cyber attack
like this to a hack is very disturbing. I mean, of course,
there's been a lot of discussion about
Now listen, he just said that John Brennan's email could be
vulnerable to a cyber hack hack, like this is very disturbing,
personal email servers as of late and, you know, the idea
that they could get his information. And I know that Jay
Johnson, the Secretary of Homeland Security, who testified
before my committee talked about some of his private information
being stolen as well. This is the breach at OPM 20 million
security clearances stolen by China. There are various nation
states like China that engage in espionage. And I wouldn't be
surprised if China was behind this one.
Hold on, hold on, hold on a second. Did you hear what he
said? Yeah, I
hear what he said. First, he said,
China's behind the OPM attack the first time you've heard the
real number of 20 million. It's always been 11, or 12, or four.
And then he says, I think China was behind this as well. That's
what he said. Now. Now, broth, of course, is confused, because
broth has the script right in front of him. And it's supposed
to say that and remember that it was horrible. It's very
troubling. That's the John Brennan's emails were hacked
behind this one, because it seems like this hacker claims to
be under 22, a young kid who's stoned all the time you think
that?
Oh, I apologise. You're correct about that.
Oops, how's the old back then? Oh, what's he gonna do? What's
he gonna do?
This was a young, sort of anonymous.
Listen to what he says listen to what he says the whole thing is
funny. Listen,
this was a young sort of anonymous type figure that
didn't claim to be stoned at the time he did that which is
remarkable, given what he accomplished
way so instead of it being a horrible, very troubling thing,
oh, it was just some stone kid actually. It's amazing what he
did being so hammered. What is up with this?
Well, I think you're you're correct in the your assumption
that there was a script involved. And he went off script
because he was getting a little early because he I think he got
emotional when he started talking about the Chinese with a
suspect of everything. He said, right crap, anything's China did
this. And that, which is probably what he does think.
Then all of a sudden, the script, then broke, reminds him
and says, Hey, you're
in the wrong screwed, man. What do you do? And this is the
stoner script. Oh, yeah.
I'm supposed to be going with this. And you're going off the
deep end is we're broke. Well, that was horrible. Wait.
But you're you're you're saying that China was responsible for
the hack of the all that personal data from the Office of
Personnel Management, the government agency?
That is my, my opinion, because Big Data Theft,
big data theft. Now, first of all, this is the first anyone's
ever any statutes that China? No, no one has said China. This
is the first guy this is the first time he says China, and he
says it's a big data theft. Oh, that, of course, China.
Big Data Theft is not done for criminal purposes. Oh, no,
no. He's lost it completely here.
breach, it's to get big data to exploit that data, and then
compromised individuals in the federal government. So this is a
classic case of espionage, the attribution
and what we know about the OPM hack is that it was a contractor
who who shared credentials with somebody? And you know, then
someone got in use those credentials found an
administrator account open use that. Yeah, it's like this is
this was not so obvious that it was China, it
was back to the same source as Anthem Blue Cross tacks into
China. The Chinese, of course, are saying it wasn't they had
nothing to do with this. But the way it was done, the fact that
was espionage, all fall fingers all roads point to the PRC as
being responsible.
Okay. Well, thanks that didn't realise that Mr. McCall, want to
hear a little more of him in broth broth can brings up some
other new information which we have not heard yet,
your chairman today. In a hearing it was revealed there
what there have been more than 300 cases of small scale cyber
physical attacks against power grids here in the United States
since 2011. And not one suspect from these attacks has been
identified, let alone arrested. Why can't these suspects be
tracked down?
What do you think the answer is to this? China?
Well, they can be inaccurate, listen to it and take place and
we can tie back to the actors. The problem that you saw at the
hearing was we have no response there. There are no there's no
proportionate response to these attacks, there's no
responsibility. If you don't have consequences, bad behaviour
will continue I'd five teenage teenagers and if there are no
consequences, the bad behaviour, they're going to continue.
That's the same thing.
Now he's again, he's trying to bring in like stone teenagers
for some reason, I think what's that's not what he really wants
to say happening
with China, Russia, China, Iran is carrying out cyber breaches.
And there are no rules of the game here. It's not defined what
cyber warfare really is, at this point in time, and again, the
President met with the leader of China and I know they're,
they're talking, but I haven't seen any any response to the OPM
breach whatsoever. Man. Yeah,
blah, blah, blah, China um, I'm not I'm not China. I'm lamb lamb
lamb love China, China. This guy is is he should be reprimanded,
at least for this. He shouldn't be on these shows, and the
military industrial complex has ramped it up. This is a little
promo reel that I grabbed from Raytheon, which is new. I think
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right now somebody should hack Raytheon
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I think, hey you hackers out
there I think this is kind of the beauty of of the situation
Raytheon the situation we're in right now is that all of this is
going to be hacked everybody everything you put in place
there is no no failsafe all secure it just doesn't exist
does not exist it's not possible but everyone believes in this
this farce that it's all safe and secure. And but you know
with Raytheon, I'm sure we can give those guys a couple billion
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We've got virtual Viagra to harden your cyber It's just
it's, it's an insult to anybody
who did that character. You had the clip of McCall, Mike
McCauley. McCollum, Mike, Mike, Mike, I can always make the
guy's first name has to be Mike. Mike Rogers, this guy.
No more Michael Mann.
We did. I think his initial attempt to like, discuss this
was designed to make to do a parallel thought process where
you'd say, Oh, if these guys can have their accounts, so easily
hacked because there weren't government accounts. It was an
AOL account. Or another one it was, yeah, this could have
happened to Hillary.
Wait, no, I don't think that's it, I think something else is
going on. Again, we have WikiLeaks, publishing for no
discernible journalistic purpose. As far as I can tell,
publishing where they have like eight emails, all from 2008. Now
before Brennan was, was inserted, why those eight that's
all there is. This is an old account, you
see, but I'm just an old lady. Yeah, it's an old account. I
know, I'm thinking that you know, this, they're doing this
for a reason. And it's possibly kind of what I thought you've
already thought you were going is we have cyber legislation
coming up for a vote in the next two months. We have the Sharing
Act, you know, CES, we have all these different, all these
different cyber acts. And I think this is meant to,
purposely or not, but just say, hey, that's so severe that we
even have our top guys, Johnson and John Brennan, the drone
Meister, is it they're being hacked?
Is it possible since you if you want to make the assertion that
WikiLeaks is tight with the CIA? That's what? That's what we've
always asserted. I think that's what okay, it's been long. Yes,
it has. And they're sick of Brennan. And then we're gonna
start seeing a possible internal policy of embarrassing Brennan
at every step. That could be possible way. So get him out of
there, because he's screwing up. That could be because the CIA is
always assumed to have like a shadow government running it.
Yeah. You know, it's like the there's the head of the CIA. It
was just a political guy. George HW Bush was one
button, then you'd expect something to be in those emails
that was damning, but there's nothing is just a little cyber
effects. I love CNN. It's just it makes me think that cyber
hardening Hold on guys cyber hard. And
I think that the hack itself was the damning part in this guy.
That does happen. Yeah. But arguably, it's the same thing
you have to portray us. The tres was also outed, right? Not out.
But he that was by the FBI. That was, do we know that? It was not
again? Oh, we don't know. We don't know. We don't know. That
that's not a good sound.
I'm cyber hardening the show. It's it's not the right sound.
It's dirt. It's the same sound as the CNN sound, is their
sound. So something is up with this. And and the thing that
really got me is when you have McCall saying, Oh, it's so
horrible that Brennan got night, it probably just to implicate
the Chinese that that's the only thing because that's where the
guy goofed up and he said, Oh, this was done by China.
Well, I'm just an idiot. Possible.
But he was reading the rosewoods done
by or maybe just suspects the Chinese do everything. Yeah. But
it's hard for him
to say it's the Chinese. That's that's big news. I
feel it is big news. But again, if these just a moron shooting
from the hip, and he doesn't really know who it is, and no
one's really testified to that effect, even in the closed
hearings, then he's made me just an idiot, which I'm more
inclined to believe.
Don't take away my thunder man. I'm loving the China connection.
I'm loving it. Well, I
mean, I had a, I had a meeting with the CEO of Cloudflare.
Because I'm looking into some of these crazy outrageous networks
out there that are taking over the world. That
was this week. And it was last week. Interesting yet cloud flu.
They're also the guys who you can turn to if you have a DDoS
attack. They're pretty good at helping people with that. I
think
they can stop any DDoS attack. Now. He says right now their
network is so big, there is no player that can make a bigger
DDoS attack than they can handle or
that they could make. That's just an aside. Yes, we want it
to Okay.
Well, that he was relating a story of some DDoS attacks that
was started that started with the DDoS attacks against hookers
in Turkey. There's a bunch of hookers in Turkey and they're
having this DDoS attack on their on their advertising websites.
Yeah, because there's some some console They sites or something,
and they took care of it. And then there was another one that
did a similar kind of thing that the hookers but then there was a
big bank, there was a bunch of these in a row and they and the
attack was, according to their one experts keep kept coming
from the same place. And many if not a majority of DDoS attacks
come from all I can identify it as as northern Iran. Any been
mostly political attacks, so the hookers were you know, sinners?
Yeah. So they were attacked in some other than the bank was
like, screwed him out of someone who knows. But recently, he
wouldn't tell me which bank it was, I suspect it was HSBC, but
it was a big international bank and they were getting pounded
and they came in to stop the DDoS attacks using their
methodologies and there there is they have a very unique
architecture and but it seems to be that a lot of this stuff
comes from Tehran area this is never discussed no by anyone.
And he said that you know, they also do the cloud for also works
for the government. Most big agencies use their they have a
layer you can just buy the layer and the layer itself was we're
preventing the sort of DDoS attacks and you shouldn't be
having DDoS attacks in this day and age when these guys are
around it's not an overpriced product you can get a free
version if you're a small user it's really an interesting
operation at the same next I visit with engine X
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But he used to work for Swensons. I talked about this on
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orange chip or something. And it was a it was the ice cream I had
in in Colorado or France once, but it had these little
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unethical. But if you want to make some ice cream for your
friends or something I don't see it's really that unethical to
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No, I was too young to realise how valuable that binder was.
And especially one test in particular, they had a test for
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I got you, I got you. Well, we learned something new yesterday.
And it was I was dumbfounded having grown up in the
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We learned something brand new from Israeli Prime Minister Bibi
Netanyahu. Here's the Jake Tapper. CNN
reports are tensions continue to run high after days of bloodshed
between Israel and the Palestinians adding fuel to the
fire today claims may, made by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu claims that Hitler just wanted to expel Jews from
Europe but then a prominent Muslim leader in Jerusalem
suggested that Hitler exterminate them. Instead, the
comments have drawn widespread condemnation not only from
Palestinian leaders and Israelis, including those in his
own party, but from leading Israeli historians and advocates
for survivors of the Holocaust. There is growing concern that
Netanyahu his remarks will only throw flames on the fire.
So I figured we'd listen to the actual piece of his speech, just
to get a better understanding because this is probably going
to talk about the Grand Mufti. Yeah, he's talking about
Muhammad affendi Amin al Husseini, who indeed was against
the Jews and teamed up with the Germans. But the way Netanyahu
put this in his speech was really, really baffling for
anyone who's you know, learned about the Second
World War or anyone who you know, did any, any student of
Himmler.
I mean, when you when you listen to this, you'd think that Hitler
was kind of a moderate guy, you know? Yeah, you know, just you
know, the Jews are a little troubling. And then the movie
comes along and says, You gotta burn them burn,
and this attack and others attack. Other attacks from the
Jewish community 1920 1921 1929 were instigated by a call of the
Mufti of Jerusalem Hodge, Amin al Husseini, who was later
sought for war crimes in the Nuremberg trials because he had
a central role. In fomenting the final solution, he flew to
Berlin. Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time
he wanted to expel the Jews. And Jemima who said Hussaini went
over and said, If you expel them, they'll all come here. So
what should I do with them? Yes, you said he was sought. During
the norburn, cause for prosecution, you escaped it,
later died in cancer after the war died of cancer. Jimena
Hussein, he said, he said the Jews seek to destroy the temple
mount my grandfather in 1926 to destroy the sorry, the alloga
Mosque,
Al Aqsa Mosque.
So this line is about 100 years old.
Yeah. Okay. So I just love that. Yeah, Hitler
was kind of a cool guy, you know, he's like, kind of the
chooser just a little, just a little annoying.
And like, we knew him. We just wish this guy sent on the
express train. You know, we just said send them away. And then
the Mufti came along and said that burn them, burn them. And
Hitler went? Well, that's a good idea. I think we should change
the Common Core textbooks to include this now.
I'm trying to get the date of
it was 1941. Apparently, when I was 21, they had this meeting
that would have a bit of a holiday. It was already
underway, but there's no evidence.
There's no evidence that the movie said this. And Hitler
went, Oh, that's a good idea. There's no evidence of that.
It didn't do it. But
this is this is Netanyahu saying, once again, it's the
damn Arab Arabs. It's the Palestinians. It's their all to
blame. They did it.
Oh, yeah. This is gonna be the end of this guy.
Is he insane? I don't know why they keep voting him in. But
there are people who are who are sticking up for him saying yeah,
that's true was true was true. There's scholars who were saying
there's lots of scholars who are saying it's not true, but
man
Speaking of bullcrap and not true. I've been ever since you
brought it up and I kind of dismissed it because I've
followed the belling cat, guys, Eliot Higgins, the blogger who,
who testified before the MH 17. Committee in the safety board in
the Netherlands. And he's now an expert on weapon systems who was
crowdsourcing? So he tweeted two days ago, huge thanks to Google.
Google for media I should say what is Google for media?
is just one of those things they got going on over there. You can
charge to keep up. They don't tell anybody what they're up to
they they have a closed shop. They have very little wallets.
They never send out press releases.
Huge thing. Oh, this Oh, Google News lab. Okay, huge thanks to
Google for media who have provided funding to keep belling
cat alive for the next year and pay for our first full time
hire. Well, well, well. Isn't that tidy? Huh? Super, super
tidy, I'd say.
That's interesting. Yeah. So these guys just full of crap.
Oh,
well, you know, if you if you look at Belling cat.com And I'm
I really I really don't trust them at all. I think you know,
these guys are looking at Google's now supporting you
kidding me? So much for your independence. You know, there's
a lot of things they're not really discussing. They're still
they still are all over this. The MH 17 Shoot down.
He's the number one guy he's the go to comes around and says it
came from Russia. Russia did it.
Well, what's interesting is I caught NPR doing something very,
very, very nasty. This is Corey fell toffee familiar with this
guy? He's, he is I think he's the main Moscow correspondent
for NPR. And he did this reasonably long PR, not news
hour, right, NPR. And he does this this piece about the
report. And he says, Well, you know, as long as nine out of 10
minutes. Well, you know, then the boot guys, they said it can
be one of our you know, it couldn't have been the Russians
because an outdated model on the Ukrainians have that and they
build some stupid aeroplane. And they tried to make it look like
it would. So he's very, very negative. And then he winds up
this report with an outright lie, which was nowhere in the
report whatsoever.
Cory obviously, you've travelled around this region many times
during the conflict, and you're at the wreckage site in the days
after mh 17 went down. What's your take on everything that's
known at this point?
Well, the separatists actually seem to have boasted at one
point that they had a booth. We reporters saw purported photos
of an online and we managed to geo locate one of the places
where one of those photos was taken.
That's the Bellingcat work, right? We go stand there and no,
this is where we saw that little brief piece of a YouTube video.
I went there and the location match the photos. But I have to
say I was unable to find an eyewitness who could positively
say that they've seen a book there on the day. Mh 17 was
okay, so Okay, so that's some good fact checking there, but
then
attacked. But based on everything I saw on independent
investigations I've read since then, I think the Dutch
investigators are right. It was a book fired from separatist
territory. And because the book is a pretty complex military
system, I think it was beyond the capacity of the separatist
militia fighters to operate. So that would make it likely that
the book was operated by a trained Russian crew. But Russia
can't admit that because to admit that would be to admit
that Russian officials have been lying for more than a year about
their involvement in Ukraine.
It also is not part of the MH 17 Safety Board Report. Nowhere
does it say that this had to have been operated by Russians.
That's really bad journalism, right there.
Well, depends. Well, he said, if you listen to what he says the
government, he's got to get this message out there. Somebody's
got to know. Yeah. Not just speculation,
but he kind of weaves it into saying, Well, you know,
according to the
data, so it's not speculation. Exactly, exactly.
That's douchey it's douchey.
It's very, very douchey. That's the whole thing that's going on,
we're out there, you know, and now it's getting worse, you
know, getting going after Putin. And there's a lot of good stuff
coming out. Well, I
really liked you know, the the embarrassment of all
embarrassments to the United States and President Obama
The first foreign visit for Syrian President Bashar Al Assad
since the start of the Syrian crisis in 2011. He came to
Moscow to personally thank Russian President Vladimir Putin
for Moscow's military support in the war. The meeting comes three
weeks after Russia launched an air campaign against Syrian
insurgents in support of its Mideast ally. For his part,
Putin said progress on the military front will make a
political solution in Syria that much easier.
I love these guys. Hey, here I am over in Moscow didn't see me
leave. Did you nananananana
Well, this is this the I have the same report. But at the very
end of the CBS version using the three by three Yes. You get this
little tidbit which I believe is just bullcrap. But this is the
CBS Assad visit clueless, credibly damaged
goods who the US and others say must go. But he's still Moscow's
man. And Scott, the clearest sign that Vladimir Putin has his
own agenda, and is now a powerful, independent actor on
the Syrian issue. No one in the US government had a clue about
the Assad Moscow visit until after it happened.
Mark Phillips in our London newsroom, Mark,
no one had a clue until after it happened.
I don't believe that. I mean, for one thing, how would you
know? I mean, half the CIA could have known about this, or the
NSA was following all this stuff, but
apparently not. I mean, if he was just flying in the air, why
don't we shoot him down? He's not a horrible dictator, who
uses chemical weapons on his own people. And why can't the
President have a sit down with him? Everybody sits down with
this guy, Putin, Charlie Rose. Everybody's hanging out with
him. Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie. But the president can't talk to
the guy.
Now this whole thing is it
shows it shows the emperor has no clothes.
All right, since we're talking about Syria and Putin, Putin,
Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin. Putin, I want to go back to the
network's and we might as well hear what the official because
Richard Engel is
the official guy. That's right. As the official guy winner, I'm
a liar who put the put the top guy the top official guys put
him in version for the intelligence community as we see
it. That's right. And this is the Richard Engel report on
Putin in Syria. And he brings up a bunch of points that we've
made, like weeks ago,
for almost five years now. Syrian President Assad has
hunkered down in Damascus while his country disintegrated,
hunkered down. So it came as a surprise today to see pictures
of him in Moscow with Vladimir Putin. It's been three weeks
since Russia began airstrikes against Assad's enemies in
Syria. But his chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel
tells us tonight, the meeting in Moscow was more than just a
thank you visit.
removed from the Syrian President Assad made a surprise
visit to Moscow to meet with his defender you Vladimir Putin. His
first known trip abroad since the war began. The power saw
travelled it was kept secret on the trip revealed only after he
was back in Damascus. Russia seems to want to show the world
it's a superpower once more, releasing new footage today of
what it claims are more than 40 airstrikes over Syria in the
past 24 hours a lifeline for Assad, but Russia may be trying
to broker an end to the conflict with Putin saying military
operations will lay the base for a long term political
settlement. But after a quarter million dead can any political
solution include a Saudi US officials tell NBC News that
Putin may be propping up Assad, only to transition him out
later? Whatever the master plan this war also has a fringe
benefit for Russia, showcasing the latest weapons, advanced
cruise missiles, fighter jets,
Russia is so tied
every drop of propaganda. state controlled media brags about
Russia's military prowess, even releasing dramatic footage from
a drone flying low over battlefields near Damascus. Odin
has brought Russia to the frontlines in Syria and wants
the world to know it. Maybe to end the war, maybe to sell
weapons, certainly to gain as much prestige as possible.
bluster.
Huh, that's right. Yep, show how good our stuff works.
There was one of the think tank meetings I watched that.
Sorry, I'm just let's just launch the Miss Gus
the fact that this is that Putin has over the last two years,
modernised all their weaponry. And I think they're back in
business to sell this stuff. And you have to put it into into use
to sell it. This is an old trick that we've known for a long
time.
That's the best way to show your stuff works.
Yeah, it's blowing things up. It's not getting shot down.
Meanwhile, you know, I think we're spot on about Turkey being
the, the odd man in the middle or not really odd but having a
lot of power. Turkey, of course, as I mentioned previously, will
be the new conduit for Russian gas with the Turkish Stream. And
a little bit of research, I think, actually, this was Dame
Angelou sent this to me, we were looking at Victoria Nuland, also
known as Nudelman, also known as Mrs. Kagan, what she's doing in
the Balkans and now I've got a full report she was in
Macedonia. And it looks like she's organising one of her fate
and one of her favourite colour revolutions. In Macedonia,
Macedonia would be one of the key links for the Turkish Stream
gas to flow through Macedonia, further into into Europe. And so
it looks like
I have a rhetorical question. Why does any country allow that
woman to travel freely within their country? She should be
able to terror terrorist watchlist.
I think a country like India, when you look at Nicola Gretzky,
he was the Prime Minister, I bet these guys are afraid, you know,
did they organise a bank run when they were, you know,
talking some crap here have a bank run Shut up. Now, Nuland is
powerful man, she's powerful. So the Turkish Stream pipeline will
be transporting gas from Russia, to Turkey, Greece, Macedonia,
Serbia, Hungary, and then into Central Europe. That's the plan.
So I think anything is being done not to mess with Turkey,
because we're afraid of Turkey, because they really do hold a
lot of the cards. But we're going to mess with all the
smaller states and look for something bad to happen in
Macedonia. And this is what I'll say.
That's why they're afraid of her. She takes no prisoners. And
then of course, we had Mohammed or the mountain coming to
Muhammad. It had to happen. We have a huge problem with the
migrants woods of 800,000.
Migrants and refugees are expected to arrive in Germany
this year, piling pressure on the government to act, many
travel through Turkey, a country Angular Merkel believes holds
the solution
on the fiscal side, we can see that there's a migration flow,
this flow might increase and come to the European Union from
Turkey. And we believe that we should share turkeys burden and
support Turkey and help them tackle this problem.
But it's what that help is that's proving controversial.
Merkel's offer to push forward turkeys bid for EU membership
for public criticism from within her own power base. First chink
in the armour perhaps made worse by a slew of weak economic data
opinion polls in particular sounding the alarm bell Merkel's
popularity sliding to its lowest level in nearly four years.
So she also offered 3 billion euros to help. I wonder if if
all 3 billion goes straight into aerotow Juan's private account
or how are they going to work that out? He probably
Yeah, it does.
This is so obvious. The turkey is blackmailing the EU and it's
bad. I mean, this is this is I mean, even it hurts me. Now. I'm
looking at this the video of these poor slobs and you got
cops in riot gear, pushing people back to slipping down the
mud they're trying to assist. This is just it's beyond. It's
beyond horror. And these people are in English are saying hey,
you know you have no human compassion. You have no empathy.
I thought Europe was gonna be great Europe sucks balls, sucks
scenes
of anguish and despair as 1000s of migrants gather on Serbia's
border with Croatia kids
screaming.
They are virtually sympathetic. Stranded, waiting on cold wet
borders after Hungary closed its southern frontier. It's an all
too familiar scene at the epicentre of the greatest
migration of people in Europe since World War Two. The UN HCR
struggles to hand out rain coats coordinator, erode Eska Rova
says they are doing what they can.
As you can see, this is a humanitarian seriously
humanitarian situation where you can see if you go to the crowd,
you will see women with children with disabled people. They are
all trapped and the border at the moment remains closed from
Croatian side.
The EU has agreed to a plan resisted by hyung Free and
several other ex communist countries to share refugees
among its members. But with 1000s pouring in each day it may
be a promise but it's hard to keep leaving scores in a virtual
No Man's Land offering little bit hope
so you know this is all happening based on what is being
called the second wave that Turkey let go and I think that
was that was the final straw for certainly for the Germans but
everyone the EU can't figure out what to do and people in these
individual countries you know, I'm just reading the Dutch
reports the people are mad they're freaking out like we
can't handle this we can't have this many immigrants we don't
know what to do we have high unemployment as is they're all
getting money and shelter and then you know, they're taking
away our resources that to me you look at it this world war
three is perhaps already being fought. It's just not going to
be done with cannons and stuff and yeah, some people will live
in the sand you know, screw them you know, they'll they'll get
messed up but I mean, I don't think this is epic. This is
really truly of epic proportion of what's happening. And and
this is going to fast track turkey into the EU they'll
probably get I presume that's all that can happen is here's 3
billion euros Thank you. And we'll maybe it's another three
into your own private account everyone is corrupt. And please
stop don't let a third wave happen it's not it's the optics
are going to be pretty bad for the worse. Yeah, they're gonna
be pretty bad. Yeah, this is I don't understand why this isn't
the number one news number one this is Sweden says they're
close to collapsing. They said there's no way there will be no
more Swedish people in Sweden. Stop them
well, Sweden is the one they've all I mean, the Swedish
government is all in on all this stuff out there started was like
come on. Come on down.
Yeah, but now they're actually Sweden. The Swedish government
is borrowing money to be able to afford the emit the immigrants
coming in. Which I'd found peculiar, but I'm just reading
the reporting.
Now this is the number one thing going on in the world that is
going to destabilise the whole is going to destabilise the EU
and when the EU gets destabilised, bad things happen.
Very bad
things happen.
We'll see what happens. I don't see if I was one of these
immigrant folks. I would like to know. I mean, this is a story
that's not told them. We have Richard Engel. We're all walking
around with these people as they walk and walk and walk their
walk a lot. That never gets explained adequately to me. A
couple of things. One, you're in a refugee camp to begin with.
Yeah, on the border of Syria and Turkey or someplace. There's a
bunch of them. They're all surrounded, they surrender in
Lebanon, they're everywhere. And you're in these and they have
I've seen some reports where people go into the camps and
look around the little stores have been set up. It's like a
little small
tent town, and they all have electronic debit cards. Yeah,
they
got these cards is literally a functioning horrible city, right
of, I guess a best slave Wait, it was? Well, there's no slaves
because they got nothing to do, right? It's, it's like favelas
in Brazil. They have all these,
the crappy slums, the slums,
slums, sloths, it's the slums made out of tents of is similar
to what's going on in Haiti. So you're in those slums made out
of tents. You have a choice, you could stay there, and I'm sure
there's a lot of crime and other weird things that go on and make
it miserable. You can stay there and wait it out. And things do
stabilise eventually. Yeah. So you can stay there and wait it
out. Or, or you can be told, Hey, there's some great show
that Europeans are going to welcome us with open arms like
we were supposed to be. And
it's possible that people are handed an envelope with Okay,
here's 1000 euros. Go,
that could be that. And there, we do know that there's already
books and maps and things that they give out to these people so
they know which route to take and what road to take and how to
get from here to
and these people are walking across Europe, John, they're
walking across Europe
to start shaking, walking, walking.
Yeah, from time to time, they get thrown into a bus and they
get shipped off somewhere.
And then they gotta walk after they get out. But did you
see the tent camps on fire? Like burning? Like did you know that
Oh,
Oops that one yeah. Oh my god. It's just a joke. And it's being
you know, we of course I were largely responsible and you have
to wonder whether we did it on purpose or not ours. The no
agenda, thought with the noodle mins and the people like that.
Our thought is Yeah, fuck the EU screw. Yeah. Because if she says
when she says that she means it,
but the question is, are we in cahoots with Turkey? Is Turkey
in cahoots with Russia is Turkey just as are we afraid of Turkey?
No, we're never we're not afraid of anybody.
Well, I don't think we're handling the situation very
well.
i You don't know that we're not handling exactly the way we
wanted to.
Oh, this is a good point. This is a good point. But it really
just made
for all we know. Okay, well, it's all going along to plan.
Okay, so let's let's take that stance for a moment. We're
responsible, it's all going along to plan. Then the EU
counter strikes with this landed
with a hefty new tax bill for 20 to 30 million euros. It wasn't
exactly a cappuccino moment for Starbucks. That's the amount of
Netherlands has been ordered to recover and back taxes from the
coffee shop chain, a similar amount by Luxembourg from feared
Chrysler, those countries giving those companies special tax
arrangements or rulings. According to European
competition Commissioner Margrethe Vestager.
The tax rulings have artificially reduced the tax
burden of both companies. And this is illegal under EU state
aid rules. Last year feared finance and trades paid not even
0.4 million in corporate tax. And Starbuck manufacturing paid
not even 0.6 million in tax
fear to deny receiving any state aid Starbuck says it will
appeal. Luxembourg disagrees. Well, the Netherlands says it's
surprised at the ruling. Amazon and Apple are among other
companies in the Commission's crosshairs, though vestre just
said those cases are different. While also warning the
commission would not stop here. One tax advisor who spoke to
Reuters agreed the ruling he said would rock the corporate
world to its very
core. So it seems like there's a little retaliation going on.
Really? You're going to be like that. Well why don't we just
screw all your companies where they're the Irish Dutch? Reach
around? Yep, taxation ski a scam. Now the Netherlands time
they did that? Yeah. Well, this is just small because you know,
Google and Apple and Yahoo and all those guys. That's the big
money, Starbucks and then nothing to be sneezed at. And
was it also Facebook? I think, Facebook, UK, they paid 300,000
pounds in taxes last year. It's crate. So it'll make maybe this
is all on wars, just an economic war. It's certainly not very
nice of them to do
that. The way it should go working. We're winning.
That's all that matters. I
guess. The two Yeah. That's exactly right. That's all that
matters. We're winning. We're winning. Great. Competitive. No.
All right. Enough of that. Sorry, I
was coughing off air.
I've been looking at some more looking for more. As I wrote in
the last newsletter, I did a lot of stuff on or bitched about
native advertising, which is now i i have to say it's completely
out of control. It's just, it's everywhere now. And I'm now
making the assertion that all news will be except our news and
other people that do not need this huge amount of advertising
income. These overstaffed newspapers that went online. And
what we're seeing is outfits like vice, which is a native
advertising company, the
only guy that got a letter from our producers whose friend
worked advice. And the producer says that he was told that vice
is really an ad agency. Yeah, yeah. And when you read this,
and so a friend of mine, some of the things that I afterwards I
was looking at the native advertising
Institute. Yes, I ordered my free book. Yes, you have to.
Yes, thank you. I appreciate.
So on the first page of one of their pages is this friend of
mine who used to be editor at PC Magazine, she went to work for
fortune, and then she she'd been floating around, and then she
worked for Dell as part of the branding team or something. And
then she got this job as at Politico. And so I sent her a
nasty note, which it looks like
wait a minute, you sent your friend a nasty note. What did
you say chiding her? What did you say?
You're the I said you should do? You should milk this you should
become the queen of native advertising and she It
has got a needle in her eye aren't you?
Well, so she's she went to work at politico and there's a big
article about her on in advertising agent I wanted to
read a paragraph from that just to show how pervasive this
Now she works now with the native advertising Institute
know she works for Politico political now
okay as the as the chief guide to the native advertising
department chief labels gonna native officer. She's the Yeah.
So she's going to be the the political is going to have a lot
of native as like everybody else. But in the there was some
editorialising in the Ad Age article, and I want to mention
this, and then discuss it for a second politico, it says may
find itself already late to the game of native advertising late
to the game, though it began selling so called native ads,
that is ads that resemble editorial content three years
ago, the site was relying on the advertiser to produce the
content Oh, what a mistake. Meanwhile, it's Capitol here
he'll competitors like the Washington Post, and The
Atlantic have carved out departments to make articles
themselves and videos themselves for the advertisers. Nice. This
is nice. Nice to hear. It said that Mr. This other guy guess
was the boss who said political will set itself apart by
applying its style of journalism and relentless focus on beltway
influencers and policymakers to branded content. We didn't want
to rush into it. He said in the hiring of Miss Losi gives the
company a holistic perspective on the industry, one that
includes time inside a big brand he goes on. And so here's what's
been going on. And we've been following this for a couple of
years now and it's getting worse. But what's what's funny
to me is that the advertisers are at the point now where
initially they had to produce the content, which means they
had to go hire somebody to write an article and they are not in
the business, you know that they all they've got is they've
priced like a product and a product and then they have an
advertising agency. They asked the advertising agency to write
an article but advertising agencies are people buy
copywriters and copywriting techniques are alien to
reporting techniques.
It requires a new type of Beast a new type of other kind of
article you need. And so they had to go find a freelancer and
have the Freelancer doing most freelance and most, most honest
writers don't like doing these gigs unless they really pay well
then they love them. Yeah, and then do it under a pseudonym.
And you can use a pseudo name. So you just write this great. P
So what I would do a write a great piece, you get paid two,
three bucks a word, which is compromise. Really? Yeah. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, for a good piece.
Okay, noted.
And you get them, they take the thing, and then they run it. And
they can run in different places. Or they can do whatever
they want with it. But then it runs as an article in the
magazine or newspaper. Now the advertisers are getting, why are
we doing this? Because the I can imagine the rationale. I'm
thinking to myself, if I'm going to play something in the
Washington Post, or the New York Times, I'd rather have a
Washington Post reporter write it. So it really sounds like it
belongs there. Yeah. And
preferably with a byline from a post writer.
Right. You're gonna have more trouble getting that. But I
think that's just the that's the next day coming. That's coming.
Yeah, right. Now, you can't do that. You can't get the writers
because the newspaper guys are still up at a bar are.
They're not hungry enough yet. Don't worry it okay. Yeah,
they get when they start starving to death and they're
hungry, then the whole newspaper will be a native as because why
would you do a story about anything. This is
a perfect storm with blog pocalypse, where, you know,
there's almost no value now in display ads on websites.
You know, and I might think that the native advertising business,
like the native advertising Institute, and all these
different, oh, there's a it could be a club of these guys,
because there's all these different processes that you can
do this would get together themselves, and they themselves
would create and promote ad blockers. Oh, yeah, of course,
that gives the build their lockers and term block pocalypse
sounds very much like something an advertising agency would come
up with to promote something. Yeah. So you start promoting the
SW kill the normal advertising methodology mind
and mind you were the biggest ad, isn't it? Who does Apple's
ads is so Ogilvy or is it
though? wage bill was
Omnicom I guess DDB Needham, I think could be
Yeah. They don't use the super creative guys as much as they
used to know They
would certainly be able to help them.
They're in on the native average. So all advertising is
trending toward this. And I think most content and a lot of
these magazines, because there's no people. In the olden days,
I've talked this over with some people in the olden days, when
you could do an editorial style, you could write an article and
have it placed in not so much the New York Times, so they
wouldn't do it, although they do it. Now. They wouldn't do it.
But the local paper, they'll bite, you know, but you had to
do two things. One, you had to put advertising advertising
advertising across the top. So it's clear to the reader that
this was an advertisement they're reading, and the fonts,
and the style had to be different than the paper. So
you'd have to have a different like, in the New York Times, if
it was in the New York Times, you couldn't use Times Roman,
and you couldn't use our headline, font, whatever it is,
that has been thrown out the window that's out that's done
and the end, you don't even have to put advertising advertising
across the top, you could put this right into the flow of
things. And you can put at the end, you know, this is a
sponsored article or something like that. And that's good
enough. And so the whole church and state thing that they always
like to brag about, it's all gone. The corruption is it's
taken over and nobody is complaining about it. Because if
the New York Times is doing it, and the Washington Post, and
everybody can do it, then it's fair game. Yeah, that means
everyone can do it, because those are the leaders. And in
fact, everyone is doing it and why if you're owning the place,
I'm owning the place a newspaper, I'm thinking, we just
did an article on the new McDonald's something or other
why are we even doing this article? Unless they're paying
us? I would that would be my rationale for everything. Why
are we doing this article unless they're paying us? So everything
is? Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, there'll be some weather report
that you can't find anybody give me any money for maybe get some
global warming guy. You help me out? Sponsored by the Global
Warming committee. Here's today's weather. You know, you
had a sunny and fair, it's going to get worse. Yeah. It's a
horrible situation. And people should appreciate it, that we
are not playing that game, because we are sponsored by the
people that listen and produce the show. Yeah,
it's a it's baffling to me. Well, for ya know, it actually
is not baffling. You're not going to see the the journalists
are not going to be talking about this themselves. I don't
think there's going to be a lot of articles. Can't native
advertising. Yeah,
yeah. Well, here, let's look at some of the native. So
it's the disconnect. What's interesting is the disconnect is
you have Silicon Valley in one hand, talking about, you know,
acceptable ads, how we're going to make it all work. And this,
by the way, is horrible for Google is horrible for them.
This is not what they want. They want you know, to to have, you
know, the search results be the ad, you know, the have the ads
and all the places the right places at the right time. That's
the big promise. They still haven't really reached it. But
that's really their business.
Yeah. And I think that's why Google saw a panic and they
start all these other businesses away out because
it's it is going to end it won't be tomorrow, you know, let's
look at 10 years out it may or may have may have weakened
somewhat.
I mean, but now we're getting situations I want to play this
clip. This is the national anthem clip. And everyone knows
that like moan and groan about sporting events playing the
national anthem because they're not military event.
We already know what this is. This is native advertising.
Well, this is this takes us this is not as the native advertising
you think but this is the Monday night football game. This is the
end of the national anthem and just let it play out you'll see
what I'm talking about. Coverage of
tonight's national anthem is presented by USAA the official
military appreciation sponsor of the NFL for the elite in the NFC
the giants in the next be all that you
can be gotta love it.
So they commercial for this military as fantrax company
Yeah, this fan has just stunned by that, but not as much as this
one. Now this is the big I'm gonna play the beginning of
this. And then the end that this this isn't. This isn't the three
by threes. This is CBS out of the blue. They decided to play
this long feature on retirement and it's actually kind of
interesting. And the first part of is, and it goes on and on. So
there's like 6789 10 minutes, but I only have a little bit
from the beginning but play CBS on retirement pray Lou Good
travel. Allison, by the way says that new college what I was
gonna say there's a little I want to set this one bit up
because you can hear this in there. There's this woman she
says which actually play it now tell you afterwards sorry.
A new study says that new college graduates won't be able
to retire until they are 75 average student loan debt
is a happy future kids are $35,000.
And that's up more than 5000 from just three years ago. Their
financial problems are also forcing their parents to delay
retirement. And Anthony Mason has tonight's eye on money.
This area has pretty much always been home. Stephen Beth Bureau
both grew up in the Chicago area. And we're hoping to retire
here soon. But then the youngest of their three daughters went
off to college,
when we started realising a little one was going to be going
away to school. We knew was going to be delayed. I don't see
it before 70.
At least that's probably not what you planned. No, no, what
we see Steve is a 58 year old packaging designer Beth who's 56
works in a medical clinics.
I thought when I got a little bit older that we could travel
or we could do other things. But right now all I'm looking at is
working and making money.
That's right slave, you do not pass go.
I just have to editorialise a little bit here. This is again,
it's like John's advice. If you want to travel you know you're
looking forward to travelling, travel, just travel when you're
young. When you just get out of college or just out of high
school, don't try it don't plan on spending your whole life. So
you're an old fart travelling.
This is holding up the lines I might add a feeling of traffic
with your blinker I
get those tour buses it is no fun to travel when you're older.
Go Travel when you're in your 20s that's when you want to
travel you meet people you're gonna have affairs on the road
is all kinds of cool stuff that goes on. None of it when you're
older. Travelling you and your travel from
Turkey to Germany, it's a great trip. Lots of people are doing
it. It's fun to see the countryside.
So this retirement does thing continues and continues and here
we get to the end which is the we're all of a sudden you
realise what they're up to. When they get to the end. This is the
after retirement segment that most
of all, Scott financial planners say put something aside. And
remember, a late start is better than no start
at all. Anthony Mason, thanks very much and we'll be right
back.
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Well, it's true. We have not had uns go back pre segment. Just
want to say one more thing about native advertising. Sure. I wish
I did mention the newsletter I just forgot to mention during my
speech.
Do you think we get the point? But yeah, no, you
don't get this point. Okay. Which is it's the millennials.
It's the millennials have that have driven native advertising
and your story, JC buzzkill Jr, I remember when he's a little
kid, or actually in high school, maybe and he would talk about
his generation as being a generation that was he would
brag about this. And it seems that they've all believed this.
They were a generation because of whatever however they're
brought up I'm not sure what they're trying to prove by
saying this that was immune to advertise didn't work on them.
Yeah, right. Some you were immune to advertising, right? So
will you were independent thinkers, and native. They're
not immune to native advertising. They native
advertising is for them. And you'll find all Millennials even
the ones that listen to our show are all in for one thing. Bo
vice all you just see the last vice video vice vice vice are
big fans of vice. And vice which is a native advertising
operation is just one of the many things What if you find out
what they like it's always something that there's a product
involved but they don't even know they're being a are
suckers. And
I think I mentioned this before that the dead giveaway is what
vice is paying their crews. Everyone I hear who I've spoken
to who has worked for vice. I was like, Man, those guys got
budget. It's all cool. They don't care about let me tell you
something. If you're in a pure advertising play business, there
is no budget. The whole idea is to create content as cheaply as
possible. Now, the whole point is to create great content that
obfuscates the fact that it's native advertising. That's why
there's budgets.
Yes, it's one of those big there's money
moves I gotta look clipless John want to do a couple of
elections. One slip lead elections 2016. Some clips, some
clip blitz things here. Let me see. First of all, I'm very sad,
very sad, very sad that the guy that I liked the guy who I
thought was best or most interesting, during the
Democratic debates, Jim Webb has decided to cut outs and I can
take them Can I people
say, I'm a Republican who became a Democrat, but that I often
sound like a Republican and a roomful of Democrats, or
democrat and a roomful of Republicans. And actually, I
take that as a compliment. More people in this country call
themselves political independents than either
Republicans or Democrat, I happen to agree with them. Our
country is more important than a label. Democrats and years pass,
understood this people like Sam Nunn, Scoop Jackson, Mike
Mansfield, John Kennedy, among others. I know, I'm going to
hear this. So let me be the first to say it, I fully accept
that my views on many issues are not compatible with the power
structure and the nominating base of the Democratic Party.
That party is filled with millions of dedicated
hardworking Americans, but its hierarchy is not comfortable
with many of the policies that I have laid forth. And frankly,
I'm not that comfortable with many of there's no kidding. For
this reason, I'm withdrawing from any consideration of being
the Democratic Party's nominee for the presidency. This does
not reduce in any way, my concerns, or the challenges
facing our country. My belief that
I liked that he said, our country, that's kind of my hot
button, they're
the best leadership in order to meet these challenges are my
intention is to remain fully engaged.
Okay. So he he's insinuating that he may run as an
independent, you know, with our inside information that Gary
Johnson is planning on running, will we see some form of
independent candidate debate? I mean, we this is going to be
very interesting. Because this is not what the system wants.
The system wants red blue, right left. Yeah, of course. Kratz and
Dems and
GLP has those are the guys are gonna get all the money from the
super PACs and everything else. They're gonna spend it on
advertising for PAC. So I mean, who how much money to Gary
Johnson spent on his campaign as a libertarian? Last See, so
you're saying you're saying they will have no debate?
The right if we see what I'm saying?
Well, hopefully there'll be some outrage they would have to by
the time So Donald Trump did something very interesting. I'd
say extremely interesting. He was able to needle Jeb Bush into
responding to his brother. Yeah, saying, Well, you know, look, I
don't know which way you want to how you want to twist this, but
George W. Bush, your brother was president when we were attacked.
So you know, if he's to blame it or leave it, he's to blame. And,
and he never said that, that. Um, okay. But let's the
insinuation is there, and Jeb Bush is responding. And they're
bringing out guns, man, we hit let's see here is shirt off. My
mic was Michael Chertoff, who? He ran TSA, did he also run? He
was home No. Homeland Security, right? Yep. Guy top guy. So he
comes on? I guess he's with? I think he's with broth. And he's
telling us is that what he what I liked about this clip, is he's
rattling off this whole list of great things George W. Bush did
for us. But that all depends on your perspective if they're
great or not.
So let's be clear. First of all, a number of the critical
hijackers actually came into the country prior to President Bush
assuming office. This was a plot that was planned years in
advance it unfolded over a period of time. Fair point, fair
point, there was no actionable intelligence that points
specifically, or even in general to an aviation plot of the kind
that crawled
on broke broke was gonna jump in because it did say, and this is
a quote from the August 6 2001. This is a couple of months
before 911 presidential daily briefing and titled Bin Laden
determined to strike in US FBI information since 1998 indicates
patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with
preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks,
including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York
correct
show that would lead you if you were going to focus on that to
look at federal buildings being surveilled on the ground. My
point is Wolf.
No, no. Listen to it. Listen to his
So we had a system that needed to be repaired and President
Bush did repair it. There was no specific intelligence that
pointed to the plot that actually would happen. But we
did happen after the plot after that terrible day on September
11. And I was part of this was the press. Yeah, we know you
were part of it, Duchenne swung into action, and immediately
began to change the entire infrastructure of our defence,
and we got great things for it. Listen to the list. We created
much
harder and tougher barriers to people coming in from overseas
right screwed up immigration, good work,
we expanded our intelligence capabilities and spying on
American citizens guilty or not. We tore down the legal barriers
that had prevented information sharing Shut
up slave, we're gonna share your information with the companies
that you work with.
The President went into Afghanistan and pushed al Qaeda
out of it safe haven, poppies galore. And by the way, we
discovered laboratories where they were experimenting with
chemical weapons. Shut that down. Yeah, all of us remember
that within a day or two. After that terrible day the President
got up in front of the World Trade Centre, which was still
smoking and said, We're going to bring justice to them or we're
going to bring them to justice and he did it. Right.
Michael Chertoff, you are without any doubt far ahead of
the pack and a ginormous douche bag.
Don't use that word. Sorry,
Dick. I realised that Pete Not everyone understands when we say
broth,
does he? I want to remind him why we say say both
Dr. Fauci thanks so much as always for joining us. Good to
be here both.
Now, did he mention how much it costs the US economy and it
probably is responsible for sending it into a tailspin in a
recession and never ended? No, of
course not. Of course not. But what what I love I would kind of
focus on here is the Morning Joe Show. Who are they're losing
their crap because they finally discovering Donald Trump is from
the future. We of course all knew this.
I know this clip. He has a good one. That's good.
Let me show you something else. BuzzFeed dug up an old quote
from Donald Trump, talking about a large scale terror attack 19
months before 911. In his 2000 book, The America we deserve,
Trump wrote, I really am convinced we are in danger of
the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of
the 1993 trade centre look like little kids playing with
firecrackers. Trump also mentioned the mastermind of the
attack writing quote, one day, we're told that a shadowy figure
with no fixed address named Osama bin Laden is public enemy
number one and US jet fighters lay waste to his camp in
Afghanistan, he escapes back under some rock and a few new
cycles later, it's onto a new enemy. And a new crisis.
Tried way, way, way, way, way, way. Okay, hold on a second. Is
this really Trump before? 911?
Have you read this? 2000? And are we making somebody made? Did
you make this up? I mean, so Willie, that was
2000.
In a book he wrote in the year 2000,
was published in 2000. He could have written
in 1999.
Exactly, he might have been more precious. He predicted,
basically
predicted tax from
Osama bin Laden. But we'd had the World Trade bombings in 93.
We had the embassy bombing right in, in an IDA 98.
Cold. I love how these guys are saying Oh, but of course it's so
easy to see how he came to this conclusion like, but they never
came to the conclusion and Nicole
as well. So
I love that little flub there where he where he confuses Obama
for Osan, Ida 98.
The coal and the coal as well. So I think there was Obama was
in the, excuse me, Osama bin Laden was in the atmosphere and
wrote about it in the book.
Yeah. All right. Well, there's a bunch of there's a sea change
going on. And I think that this disorder of publicity for Trump
is part of it. Because ABC who I've always claimed or sad or
observed, they're all in for Bush all the time. Because Bush
is a Floridian and there's a Disney's in Florida, as we
talked about, then Disney owns ABC. Yeah. And they it looks as
though they're gonna start to give up on Bush if he doesn't
start performing better and every time that you turn around,
he's not. He's getting into arguments about his brother. He
looks I agree with Trump. He looks weak. He's got a big giant
ahead like
steroids, low tea.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's, you know, on steroids. So let's
play this ABC. Well, first there's there's this this first
play this little little clip here. This is the ABC of David
Muir making an offhanded comment you I just don't know if he can
catch it or not. When they bring up Hillary because Hillary is a
target of theirs. They're talking this is the end of their
day. gushed about Biden dropping out of the whole race. He's not
going to go in ever,
always be on the front lines and always fighting for all of us.
And you also if you know Hillary Clinton, you know that she would
like to see a Joe Biden endorsement and soon and see Joe
Biden fighting for her.
All right. Well, we'll see about that. In the meantime, John,
stay with us because Republicans are now reacting to Biden's
announcement to from what a gay
dude comment was. We'll see about that. Yeah, we'll see. I
thought that was a snide comment. Do
you think that Biden is he's hoping that Hillary will win and
ask him to be vice president
knows no way. There, she wouldn't do it anyway. So let's
play. This is the eighth. This is where I see ABC was very anti
Trump all of a sudden kind of warming up to the guy a little
huh. Because they have
these ratings because Jeb Bush is zero ratings. Donald Trump is
the loser. So let's go with Trump may get nomination Clinton
or Donald
Trump tonight tweeting, Biden made the right decision adding
he'd rather run against Hillary Clinton because of a record and
new numbers tonight, prompting the Washington Post to ask is it
time to concede that Donald Trump is likely to win the
nomination. And here they are the new ABC News Washington poll
numbers reflecting very strong numbers for Trump. 42% of
Republicans now say they expect Trump to be the eventual nominee
43% say he has the best chance of winning the general election.
Their top pick for strongest leader. They also say he's best
on immigration and the Republican who understands them
best, some very strong polling for Trump tonight. So John,
here's the question the republican party when they see
these numbers, do they think this could eventually be Donald
Trump versus Hillary Clinton?
Well, Republican leaders in this town have been in denial for a
long time saying Trump cannot win the nomination. You no
longer hear that said with confidence. They are starting to
come to terms with the fact that he may be their nominee, David,
he has been the front runner for three solid months. This is no
longer a flash in the pan.
All right, John Karl with us tonight. John, thank you and to
one other.
Okay. I noticed something as well about a change in the tide
for Donald Trump. From the show that I have been obsessed with
for the past few weeks.
Housewives of Hollywood the view? Oh, yes.
This is joy Bay har and Oh, my What a difference a day makes
starting to warm up to Trump a little bit now. Yes, yeah. I'm
not voting for him. And I don't like the way
I love when people say that, you know, I'm not voting for him.
But he does have a point. I hear this all the time. Well, you
know, sure. He has a point. But I would never vote. I
don't agree with you guys all the time. But yeah, but
not voting for him. And I don't like the race bathing. Let's get
that out of the way and will never replace my arousal
feelings for Bernie, but the guy is not as bad as the rest of
them. First of all, he may not be pro choice, but Rubio, for
example, believes no abortion, even in the cases of rape and
incest. Trump doesn't say that Trump does not say that. He
believes in single payer, he wants everybody to have health
care from the government, that he agrees with Bernie, he wants
to raise taxes on the rich. He believes in Bernie. I mean, I
looked this up, I couldn't believe it, you know, but and he
was against the Iraq War. And he said so in one of his books
before 911 even happened, so he was like No stra trumpists. You
know what I'm saying? He said in that book. He's not as bad as
the rest of them on that team.
Okay, Joy Beyhadh. Now, I did a little research because I think
I had kicked off. I saw Joey Diaz on Joe Rogan Show Joe Rogan
experience. And Joey Diaz said something that I, you know, I
went to look and, and dig a little bit. And I didn't have to
dig very far. But digging for Well, I don't want to tell you
just yet I'm setting it up. Okay. But I didn't have to go
much further back than July of 2015. To find some stories. But
well, listen to this is a report from CNN, this is about the
ground game. Because of course when you're now Trump is pretty
serious. He's got he's got his policy papers out there, even
though people say he doesn't. They may not be the way people
want them to be. But his tax plan is there as immigration
planning. He's got plans, but he has a ground game. And I caught
this earlier, or maybe four or four shows ago, but let's listen
to this. And you'll see what I'm Trump's
team now looking to prove it has the organisation to bring the
candidate to the finish line. We're all doing our part in
those pay staffers in 11 states, including a total of 40
employees in states holding the first four nominating contests
and the operation is still growing.
Our ground game is all over Iowa, New Hampshire all over
South Carolina. The tremendous ground game
IW offers a unique challenge turning Trump's super fans into
committed caucus goers to make it happen. That campaign is
teaching supporters how to caucus and organising precinct
captains to help deliver a victory. But the question
remains, can trump turn his poll numbers into actual
we attract people from all over? We go to the population centres.
We do the things that are necessary to get people out. We
sign them up. We get the cards filled out. We put them into our
database and then we get ready to crank up the ground game.
Yeah, bingo, boom, Bada bing, we just put them into the database.
We get it all good. Did you hear the guy earlier? We're all doing
our pot. We're all doing our pot. That's a guy getting signed
out of his trunk in Iowa. We're all doing our pies. All right.
And then we had a clip earlier a couple of weeks ago. I
think it's really gross. In all honesty that Hillary is talking
about raising $2
billion. He's talking about raising $2 billion to win the
presidency rousers with 100 million dollars super PAC Super
PACs, John, these are Goombas Donald Trump has had no tourists
ties to organised crime to the Moors, but no one is. No one is
bringing this up.
Well this because he probably has an answer for it.
No, no, no, no, no, I think I think they're afraid. This is
the most recent thing I could find was an article not even a
video July 31 talking about Donald Trump's glittering empire
of New York skyscrapers in Atlantic City casinos have long
had a darker side allegations the mob helped build them I mean
yeah, come on. Are you kidding me? You're gonna build a New
York City and you're not dealing with the concrete business now
dealing with the mob of course he is. Why is this not even
brought up? Why
I don't know and this kind of thing I can think of a couple of
reasons why you wouldn't bring it up you don't have any he's
done a really good job of of staying away you know, he's
doesn't have he's not hanging out with the mob bosses when
most of them are
gone. But listen to the guys he's got with a suit. Sound a
little mobbed up there all the guy. We got it here every night.
Well, we got it. We're doing a pied everyone's doing up to the
mob. It reminded me of the movie. What is the damn movie?
What is the the member the movie where they the mob went in and
they kidnapped people who were Nielsen homes.
And then they made everyone Soprano's.
No, no, it was a movie. What the hell was that in the chat room?
might know? Yeah. And they had they were sitting with those
people for weeks on end. And then the mob guy had some kind
of television show and it got the highest ratings because
everyone was voting. Yes. We watched it. We watch it because
the mob everywhere was it reminds me of this. Maybe that's
how the polling works. A, you're gonna say Trump right? And we
don't want to get hurt over here. I mean, it's at least
worth worth discussing. Well, you're discussing it right. But
no one discusses this in mainstream are they afraid to
say this
but he discusses anything that we discussed
if Trump is if they want to get rid of Trump so badly why don't
why don't the Democrats bring this Why doesn't anyone say hey
you want to do that if if you can get somebody that you have
the goods on actually nominated the Democrats might be behind
the nomination and they got plenty a mob ties and you can
imagine what Hillary's but you wait to the last minute so they
show your guy gets in you don't give a crap about the other guy
after that. You wouldn't do it early. You do it late when it
counted. Did he's not gonna get the nomination? Okay,
why not?
They're gonna they're they're gonna get this. This is a this
is a fractal. The exact same thing happened to Ronald Reagan
in 1976. He was on his way to getting the nomination and they
derailed him at the very end. And then he got into the next go
round and this I believe is going to be exact same thing
that happens here.
The movie was the ratings game. Starring Danny DeVito. Rhea,
Perlman was a comedy Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yes, it was a comedy.
So funny idea. There was a Simpsons that a similar
storyline,
right? Well, I find it peculiar that this is okay. Or maybe it
was a family guy. I got in the meantime the Democratic National
Committee has approved a now they wanted to hold debate but
they've approved a presidential town hall with Black Lives
Matter. I told you these guys are up to no good. So we're
gonna have they're gonna have a town hall with Hillary and I
guess Bernie or maybe someone else is not going to be a full
on debate but a town hall which they've approved. Okay, we'll do
that and we're going to televise it for black lives matter. Hmm
Well, still, uh, you're more than a year away before we Oh, I
know. That's that's the annoying things. We have to deal with
this for so long. It's so annoying. All right. That's all
I got from my clipless wasn't much of a blitz. You didn't come
in with anything?
Well, I didn't You didn't give me any openings for the you had
thematic stuff going on. Okay, I guess let's play I got a couple
just here's a good couple blitzie clips short, short and
sweet. This is an interesting story dead reporter in Turkey?
Yes. A British journalist has been found dead in Turkey under
mysterious circumstances and our colleagues are calling for an
international investigation. Jacqueline Sutton, a former BBC
journalist and a rock Country Director for the Institute for
war and peace reporting was reportedly found dead in the
bathroom at Ataturk airport in Istanbul over the weekend, where
she was supposed to board a flight to Iraq. Turkish media
reported her death as a suicide but her colleagues are
questioning that account. Her predecessor at the Institute for
poor War and Peace reporting was killed in a car bomb attack in
Iraq in May.
So there's something that is reporters have found out about
Iraq that requires them to be assassinated. This woman
committed suicides but crap. Yeah, I mean, she was hanging it
she she was at that bus door.
Myself in the airport. It's such a great way to the airport
after you bought a ticket to get out of town as opposed to what
she couldn't afford the upgrade as you can afford to mister
flight, but she had $2,200 with her turned out, they searched
her for dead body. And she just went to the store. She had a
couple bags, she was just shopping. She's so you're
shopping. You got plenty of money, and then you hang
yourself out of the blue. Yeah, uh huh. No. So the fact that
they made that claim to me is like a red. Something's wrong
there. But we've
had a couple of interesting to to the head moments, Lord
Ashcroft. This is the guy who was quite bleak that in his
book, he was going to reveal how David Cameron put his Wang into
a dead pigs mouth. Lord Ashcroft.
What I vaguely remember this tale.
Well, this is only from a few weeks ago, but he was going to
launch a book and then so he leaked this, like, Oh, this is
going to be in my book. And then all of a sudden he gets septic
shock, liver and kidney failure and he misses the launch of his
own book. Maybe that wasn't such a good idea or you never want to
hear this when you're Pope.
The story is splashed across the front page of Italy's quotidiano
nazionale. Pope Francis is sick the paper says. The report
claims the 78 year old pontiff has a benign brain tumour that a
Japanese medical team secretly visited the pope some months ago
and spotted the tumour saying it was treatable without surgery.
But appointed Vatican spokesman father Federico Lombardi the
story is not only untrue, it's reprehensible
neutral medical,
no Japanese doctor has been to the Vatican to visit the Pope.
There have been no examinations such as those written about in
the article. The officers responsible have confirmed to me
that there were no helicopter flights into the Vatican from
outside even in the month of January, unless they were
ghosts. They weren't seen.
Fantasma. You know some of his
body says that while the Pope does have some leg pain because
of sciatica, he's in good health. The Japanese doctor is
cited in the newspaper is reportedly based in the US but
hasn't commented on story. Lombardi however, is being
outspoken. He says such misinformation about the Pope
has to stop.
You know, I think this is a warning shot across the bow for
the Pope. Bill. That
would be our basic thesis. Yeah, things happen. Why
isn't the pope saying I'm okay climate shines Am I not POM? Ah,
that's what he should have done? No, he has a spokes hole come
out and say no, this is not good. This does not bode well
because, oh well. Gee, I guess
we knew all
hints about it. It's the old you know, the poison in the ring
into the chalice There you go. Goodbye, poke.
We know very little about relapsing Ebola at this point
because this is very much frontier science, scientific
frontier
science shot. This is a new term frontier, sir, because Ebola has
returned this were
baffled when they saw Pauline Caffrey Get back into treatment
again because it was 10 months after she recovered from the
Ebola virus. Now doctors in the field in Sierra Leone are saying
this was not an isolated case or it may not have been an isolated
case. They say there have been a number of mysterious deaths in
Ebola clinics, among survivors who have left the clinics and
then come back complaining of various symptoms from
respiratory problems to Ebola symptoms, again to severe
constipation, and a handful of them have died for the 17,000
Ebola survivors across West Africa. This is devastating
news. Not only have they had to live with stigmatisation and
marginalisation for months now people are accusing them of
potentially harbouring a virus and infecting other people.
You know what I think we should send more troops to Western
Africa. More troops. We have 3500 there now already. And
Ebola never really happened. Didn't really pop out the way we
expected. Not everybody died. And now oh, well, it turns out
10 months later, you can still have it and you can still and we
have a nurse in central London with Ebola who's been walking
around visiting schools. More trust, something's
up with this story. I agree with more
troops. It's more troops. We've got the pipeline, that camera
really, you
know, their neck, there's not going to be an announcement
there's going to be more troops. This will not be a news item.
It's going to be somewhere you had to read stars and stripes or
something to find it out. Well,
it will be a news item on your no agenda show.
Well, I've got two things I can do. To finish the show off.
I got some great tech news, which we'll do on Sunday.
Sunday's tech news day got a great tech news segment. You're
gonna love
I have, apparently, well, I'm gonna save this. I think I want
to do this London story because it's something Americans are
unfamiliar with. You've talked about it. We talked about on the
show once in a while, that London, the capital of the UK,
and the City of London as separate a small little
operation inside London proper
has its own mayor or its own everything right? It's a It's
all different
countries explained a little bit to the Chinese on CCTV, because
apparently the City of London is decided to do a deal with the
Chinese that is outside of whatever else goes on with
Cameron and the rest of the UK and they explain a little bit
about London as the City of London here and I want to point
out to people that as this report is is read by or
discussed by the chain is not a Chinese gathering bread. When
you say City of London, and London, you are talking about
two different things.
The most important speeches President Xi will give during
his state visit to the UK will be in Britain's financial
centre, the City of London, which domestic has been down to
the city to find out what they want to hear.
It will be here the Guild Hall in the ancient city of London's
financial centre, that the President will be guest of
honour at his second banquet of this state visit. The City of
London is effectively a city state within the UK capitol,
boasting many of its own bylaws and privileges dating back
centuries. The audience gathered in this or gusta chamber will be
very much looking to the future and clues from the President on
ways in which they can work with the Chinese currency. The
renminbi. So I come down to the city of London to find out what
the President's audience hope he'll say, and what they
actually anticipate. Mongolia is the city of London's policy
chief,
I'm sure that the city will want to hear that developments
between China and Britain have been excellent over the last few
years, much stronger relationships. We now have
London as a leading offshore Centre for NIMBY trading. We
have Chinese banks rapidly expanding in London, we have
investment from Chinese life companies and other institutions
in London. Say we'll want to hit acknowledgement this has all
been very successful. And we want to hear that there's a bit
more scope for things going the other way as well. Because
British institutions would like to do much more in China, the
City
of London will be looking at ways in which it can work more
closely with the Chinese in the internationalisation of the
Chinese currency, the renminbi.
There are many city institutions who have relationships with
Chinese institutions. There's going to be a number of signing
ceremonies this week of memoranda of understanding about
developing stronger links. The Chinese financial system is
undergoing significant reform. It's very large, but it is not
fully internationalised. We want to see that happen as to the
Chinese authorities. It's quite is trying to have the timescale
and getting it right. It's not something that's easy to do. And
we're very keen to work with our Chinese counterparts on how the
markets can best be opened up how there can be better
cooperation and collaboration. This is going to be highly
beneficial, both to London and to China.
If they can pull it off working with China, and the Chinese
currency, the renminbi should help cement the city of London's
role as Europe's and arguably the world's Paramount financial
centre. It all depends, of course, on what the President
has to say. Richard bestech, CCTV in the City of London, your
analysis, Mr. Devore. Ek
was my analysis, something's up. Outstanding not being reported
anywhere. Now. He goes, he goes to the UK and he goes to London,
and he has a meetings and he has the big state dinner, then he
has a second state dinner in this. And they showed this place
a gilded hall or whatever it's called gilded right where a
beautiful, huge I know, and it's right in the city of London,
he's going to have a dinner there. And this is like, going
to is like going to you know, real. This is the real deal when
it comes to like this shadow government sort of thing. Right.
And this has to do I believe with the grading. I think
they're starting to free I think the world financers especially
the Brits, even though they're our buddies, I think they're
freaking out a little bit about the where we're going with $1 in
some of these schemes and sending all these refugees over
to Europe, and I think they're getting a little I think they're
getting tired of us. I think we
can well, not only that, but but we've beaten them down. I mean,
Deutsche Bank is on the brink of collapse. All the all the the
European banks, they're all screwed. The regulation is no
longer beneficial. No, and I think I was going to say that
the main thing is as strange as it sounds, the main thing that
that needs to happen right now is this T tip. You know, the TPP
which I guess is fast track this, it'll it'll it'll happen
is going to happen. Well, everybody's yelling New World
Order. When when that happens. That is going to turn America
back into powerhouse. We we need to be able to produce and send
things for free over to other countries. And it's going to be
the only way the dollar I think consistent can be sustainable is
not going to be on oil anymore. What else could it be? It's like
new, it's just musical chairs. Everyone's running around.
Well, they're definitely freaked out. I don't know how you see
it, but, but I see it similarly. I do know that we're always
scheming and we're always got the best ideas and so far as
this is all concerned, we've got it. I mean, we always come out
at the winner. Yeah, we'll see that changing anytime soon. You
know why? America my friend Merica.
And we just it's hard to say why could be
we're America. All the smart bankers know that. We're the
ones to back.
I would. Yes.
Okay, I am going to
collapse. Yeah, it sounds like it.
Yeah, it's never been this bad. That's really affected my voice
but there you go.
Well, I actually didn't you got through it pretty well. I think
if nobody ever heard the show, and they wouldn't think you were
sick. Well, and you did a good job of covering up most of your
coughing and gagging Yes. And there was a lot of it. Believe
me. You didn't have you don't have a button. No. Do you?
Yeah, I do. It's just not a not easy to reach. Oh, but final
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