Oh, please, just gets worse.
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak
and Sunday September 27 2015. time once again for your gizmo
nation media assassination episode 760 This
is no agenda flying solo
in the air stream of consciousness once again on I
love bondage. We're broadcasting live from Salt Lake City, Utah
in the morning everybody. I'm Adam curry
from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm not in a trailer I'm
John C. Dvorak. And you should be happy you're not. You're in
the trailer again.
I am solo solo.
Did you go to Yellowstone? I did. I did. Ah,
Tina, the keeper and I went to Yellowstone and lost all
connectivity with the world for a glorious 48 hours
there's no connectivity to Yellowstone surprisingly,
when you get near Old Faithful there is a spot where all of a
sudden there's you know, there's some cell connectivity. Not
enough to do a show with but pretty good. Was nice, man. It
was nice up there.
Did you visit the hotel? The hotel? Yeah, the famous hotel
once famous hotel.
The one that's in Yellowstone
What's it I don't know what what's that? What hotel?
I don't know. I can't remember the year don't
ask me question
No, no no no famous hotel that we saw Old Faithful. That was
nice. Yeah, it goes off and everything about it reminded me
of every cartoon I've seen about Old Faithful like the
Flintstones
it's very distinct I've seen when you see if you don't even
know what it looks like and you see it going off because there's
a bunch of other geysers that go off.
Oh, yeah, like the be Hi guys. Good one. And we that goes off
every 10 hours. And we're
a big one. That's a big one. So
the thing about Old Faithful is it no one knows when it's going
to erupt. They only have estimated times I didn't I
thought it was like every 40 minutes exactly. Very
used to be called Old. I know a little this because I went
through a lot when I was a kid and I'd been there recently but
that reasonably but it used to go off routinely every one hour
and that's why it was called Old Faithful. But people started
throwing chairs down.
Vandals didn't know about this. Yeah,
well, so it's throwing crap in there and peeing in it and doing
all this stuff. And over time, it's just like the clockwork
thing is over so it's not like anywhere from 45 minutes to two
hours
Yeah, it's 45 minutes to like an hour and 38 minutes and so
what's cool is there's this observation deck right off of
the the Old Faithful lodge or whatever the hell it is. Maybe
that's the hotel you're talking about. So we sat there just
drinking cocktails waiting for this thing to blow that was
pretty nice. Like yeah, okay.
The thing again that was trying to get at what about Old
Faithful is that if you if you're just randomly looking at
geyser then you see this one is so distinctive looking. Yes,
because there's a little breeze that comes from a certain angle.
Yeah, it's pretty it just looks like old faith does it does. So
some of these other ones just are just boom, they just look
like anything. So there
was like three guys sitting at the bar. old guys locals
apparently whose only job is to go sit there and say, Yeah, we
think it'll be a 237 today. And But hang around because you want
to see the beehive it only goes off every 10 hours and it's a
bit it'll go off just one minute after Old Faithful. But after 40
minutes, old tubes 340 minutes after Old Faithful when we're
like okay, we're given up on the beehive. But here's something of
note. This of course is the perfect time right now. The
trees changing colour everything changing colour, a spectacular,
just spectacular how beautiful everything was or is the park is
filled with two kinds of people and a lot of them are the same
kinds of people. One is photographers just everywhere
you see lenses poking out people walking backwards onto the road
taken just completely nuts about well show you how you have to be
careful. And and and the place is filled with Chinese and
usually they're the same person
so the place is just 1000s that you should have changed now
Japanese
1000s No and I looked it up yellow stone a magnet for fast
growing ranks of Chinese tourists. It was really
noticeable John and the Chinese are rude. I'm going to
generalise the Chinese from China they're rude they push
around they jump in line we've talked about before do they spit
on the ground their Hockey? Hockey and everywhere yeah as
they walk right just now brewed at that which is their coach
route to them. No, it's their culture. I understand route to
you yeah a lot of them love going to Yellowstone because
there's no there's shooting ranges that you could shoot all
kinds of guns which of course the Chinese can't do in their,
their home country of China away
from those. No gun etiquette but
zero, but it was. It was very noticeable not in the campground
by the way. No Chinese no Chinese camping. No, no Chinese
camping. It was nice that we stayed in. Teton. Teton Park,
camping ground. Right, just right outside of the park. It
was it was good. I set up the buddy pole. Did a couple of
CUSOs for me 8000 feet, which is nice.
You do every card QCL card.
Yeah, you do. Yeah. Yes. If
you don't have a cute one. John, you give you gave my epic no
agenda beer to your frickin kid. Why would I send you a card?
That was my beer. I gave him a hit. Okay.
Well, so my beer is still there.
Yes, your beer still here. Okay, good.
But it was it wasn't a little surprising. I thought the drive
to Salt Lake City from Yellowstone would be a little
shorter. It still took a good six and a half hours. And part
of the reason is you go through the pass, which is a 10% incline
and decline grade. And I'm happy to announce that the rig
performed brilliantly going out. That's pretty steep. 10%
Yeah, especially when you Tolan some Yeah.
Then I saw the thermometer, the engine temperature move up a
little bit. But yeah, it wasn't too bad.
was walking downhill is the more dangerous part.
Yes. Yes. And
I recommend something for you. Okay. So they have these. I
think they have them in the Rockies for they do they must.
They have the route some trucks going? They're going down the
hill, especially the inclines more than 10%. Sometimes you can
be as high as 15. And they have little areas that you can turn
out to turn it you're out of control. Yeah.
It's a runaway truck. Ramp.
Yeah, there's a ramp. And so you you turn into and it's all Greg.
It's gravel. Basically, you get buried and gravel. Yeah, yeah.
So my recommendation to you because it's always possible
that can happen to just do a dry run into.
Yeah, no.
No, by the way, the Ford, if you set the cruise control, it does
downshift and brake on the engine as much as possible when
going downhill. That was pretty impressive.
Most cruise controls try to slow you down to the
last car I had John was in Dodge Ram from 2002. I was I was happy
the thing would go down that Danny did we would roll. Yeah.
We had a great meetup last night in Salt Lake City's with Justin
pecks house where we had the same meetup up on the previous
tours as three years ago now. Being Yeah, and a lot of
familiar faces there. Sherry Sherry Osborne, the rainstick
lady. Ah, yep. And she pleaded with me. Yes, she says you need
to shake it a lot more. But she also said, please ask John to be
a little careful with it because they do work. You know. It was
really nice. There was one of the producers brought his wife.
And she didn't want me to mention where she works or her
name, but she was really nervous. First of all, she's
super cute. She was looking nervous and dehydrated, and I
couldn't quite figure it out. And then at a certain point, she
was about ready to leave with her husband. And he was he was
really cool. And she says, Well, I said well, what do you think
of your your no agenda experiences? I feel very I don't
feel good about this is what do you mean? Well, but he you're
talking about migrants and you know about Trump and the what do
you like a hate group or?
Yeah, only hate groups talk about Trump.
And but it was specifically about migrants. Now turns out
she teaches English as English as a Second Language mainly to
migrants. Well, yes. People planning on migrating but from
the Middle East, a lot of Iranians, Saudis, I think mainly
Saudis, probably. But anyway, she it was beautiful because she
was she had all these things in her head about, you know, the
migrant group with the you know, that we hate the migrants and we
want them all dead and like, hold on a second. What are you
getting this from? And that Trump, you know, he said, you
know, Megyn Kelly was a bimbo on her period. I said, No, he
didn't actually say that this he did. No, he didn't say that. And
what it turned into was a On The Spot Live mouth hitting
exercise. It was really cool. Everyone sat there and we all
kind of were very careful. We were of course surrounding her.
Like the whole group have no agenda. I guess everybody was
surrounding this one. Well,
why was she there in the first she was with her husband, who's
a producer and listener he should be able to. Do you know
what I think not only did we save her, we saved their
marriage. As she walked out of there and she sent me an email
said this. I'm so surprised. I had no idea. I thought I knew I
was being bullcrap by the news. I even started to question NPR
like, okay, NPR needs to be questioned. Yeah. So it was it
was really beautiful. And I think we have a valuable
resource, because she talks to all of these young people
millennials, in the Middle East, and she has all kinds of
information I'm
sure the millennials from well, that's the Iranians that we have
our one of our contexts a the guy of Mohammed was in Bahrain.
Yeah. sends us notes. I think we'll read one of them today.
And he discusses the millennials in Iran and because he he sent
me a letter with a pay and I was actually stunned by this and
I'll put in the next newsletter. People sign up for the
newsletters and get this picture. Microsoft has already
opened a Yes, I saw I saw this. I saw the picture. Yeah, the
store in I guess it's in Tehran. And I'm thinking how does this
happen? I thought the guy thought this where we haven't
lifted the sanctions. I didn't think this was legal.
Yeah. I think a part of that of that email that came in is you
should do a search on rich kids. Right of terrorists and rich
kids of Tehran. Yeah. Something like that. For Instagram rich
kids of Tehran. Yeah, man. They got me there, bro.
I don't know about bra. But
first of all, nothing but hot Persian chicks with blend jokes
are
beautiful with bling. Particularly like the veils and
all that stuff. Oh,
no. But it's always good to see that because you have no idea.
You think a bunch of sand bunnies? They're so and I'm
blown
up. Yeah, go ahead. nuke them all.
Of course, this this, this Muslim thing came up in two in a
tweet with you. Some guy with this this guy that's was on the
Twitter going? Well, I listened to no agenda and all this is
anti Muslim. No, no, no, no, no Islam hate Muslims. islamophobe
Islamophobes. And he says the whole show was nothing about
Muslims. Was he listening to our show? I don't know what he was
listening to. What are they guys from media. He's from Hillary
Clinton's front organisation. Media Media Matters.
I know. I know. I saw it as whatever. But the but this is a
part of something that's going on now that I picked up and I'll
just call it the antebellum. 2.0 is that continues as we continue
to separate everybody between the science near the science
deniers, the all unbelievers the politically correct the non PC,
the multicultural society. But at the end of the day, I said
it. Yeah. At the end of the day, Republicans hate Muslims.
One person who is also benefiting from that possibly is
Dr. Ben Carson, when he made his
ad the This is Don Lemon with Frank Rich, who I think he used
to write for the New York Times. I'm not sure what he does
now comments about, you know, not necessarily he wouldn't
support a Muslim as President of the United States. He said after
that comment, money has been pouring in. Why do you think
he's benefiting from this?
Because there is a racist, big part of the Republican base. And
his own campaign manager sent to the New York Post a couple of
days ago, the Republican primary electorate is at the 20 on our
side on these anti Muslim.
What do people see in him because he's a minority. He's an
African American. I
mean, this is funny how Don Lemon can get it into his head,
that racism is not just against black people, you know, it could
be it can be against all kinds of minorities. And he it's hard
for him to parse it.
But I don't get it but you know, he's, he's a devout Christian.
And maybe he thinks of what I'm saying
because you say that there's a racist element out there
appealing. Oh, why is a black man
he is a black man. And there had there's been Republican support
for other black candidates. HERMAN CAIN last time
nonetheless, you know, doesn't mean it applies to everybody but
I think Muslims are the new sort of target of this kind of racism
Muslim
is the New Black Swan
only Don Lemon can say it Muslim is the New Black Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, the oven. Yeah, the Republicans. The Republicans saw
this isn't what I derived from this Republican saw that they
weren't getting anything. It just wasn't working this hating
black people. It wasn't really talking to the base. So they
switched and they became racist against Muslims. Because that's
the new black this is
a racist against something or they wouldn't be Republican.
Exactly.
Oh, man, they so it was so beautiful to see someone the
light It just went on in her eyes, John,
I just get, I'm sorry. But I'm still back at the image of, of
some poor poor woman surrounded by no agenda. It's all staring
her down like punching cats with a mouse and
then someone posted a picture on Facebook of the actual
occurrence. It's pretty cool. We're all sitting there and
folding chairs and in Justin's The Man Cave filled with you
know, it's like a Ted Kaczynski. It'd be filled with the AR
fifteens. And, you know, it's
kind of depressing. On the other hand when somebody says, and I
think this is common with our show, they generalise about the
charlatan conspiracy, that you get conspiracy theories that you
guys are just conspiracy theories, which is to put down
and right off the bat, which means they're not really on your
side on anything. And which that Media Matters guy did. Yeah. Oh,
totally. Did you learn did you guys because
I just thought you were just conspiracy theory. Guys. I
didn't know you were
Islamophobes Islamophobes.
Wow. Yeah, no, but it was
good. And it works. I do a whole the entire structure of media
works out when I'm continuing. Of course with the
three by three it's only in a six week.
You're exaggerating. Okay. Just coming up to week two
people were saying this yesterday at the meet it was a
good meetup. We had people that drove driven 778 hours with
their kids. The kids wearing cool, no agenda T shirts. Now it
was super nice. It's always a little bit of noise here. People
are moving. I'm in the Salt Lake City campground and
you're still in the campground. They didn't kick you out. No,
no.
The plan is right after the show after everything's posted them
and I'm good to go. To drive. I think it's four and a half or
five hours to Moab.
I'm on my way home now. Yeah, hidden back.
I'm heading back. I dropped him to the keeper off at the
airport. yesterday. She had to fly back because she's fly out
of Salt Lake City International.
That's a good airport. Yeah,
they let me drop her off with the air stream. There was no
height restriction for drop off for drop off at least. Yeah,
well, Christy, I guess because I believe the US government hates
Mormons so much. They hope somebody comes in and blows up
the airport. This
is also what is interesting about the meetup you and I
recall this from last year. There's there were people
currently in the Mormon church that were former LDS sirs.
Everyone just kind of gets along, you know,
Welcome to Utah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's everyone's it's
some relation generally. Yeah, they get along fine. In fact,
this was the friendliest groups of people who ever run into his
room all folks truly, truly, and when they're playing football, I
don't know about that. It's gonna be a bunch of dirty teams.
No offence.
They have the careful.
Well, let's listen to a little of the three by three analysis.
Yes, three by three. With with ABC, is that one of the
stations, they're pushing George Bush in that you are not George
Bush, but the jab, jab, jab
and let it let us explain again, this is because Jeb Bush, the
governor of Florida, Florida has big Disney Land, lots of deals,
lots of concessions, lots of things Disney was allowed to do.
Disney owns ABC, ABC, then plugs Jeb Bush.
Very simple, straightforward, deconstruction. But they can't
just come out and say you should vote for Bush. So they have all
kinds of different ways of doing it. So let's play a couple of
them. My favourite one this one two years ago, and this is the
ABC push for Bush,
Rubio rising in the polls and taking on Trump. He can't
have a conversation about policy because quite frankly, he
doesn't know anything about policy. But
Trump does know how to fight and now he's all over Rubio. I think
he's baby. Trump's fire was squarely trained on Jeb Bush.
But now Bush facing criticism over something he said about how
to attract African American voters.
Our message is one of hope and aspiration. It isn't one of
division and get in line and we'll take care of you with free
stuff.
singer John Legend tweeting, it's always the guys born on
third base, talking about black people lining up for free stuff.
David tonight I spoke with senior members of the Jeb Bush
campaign who tell me Bush's comments are being taken out of
context that he was talking about empowering people because
the Democrats War on Poverty has failed.
David Tom Yamas with us again tonight, Tom thanks. Yeah,
they gotta get on board. It's not about black people anymore.
Muslim is the New Black.
Now, the way that story was presented I thought was
remarkable. It was all it was actually a very pro Bush
he was
and the funny thing is, this was this little incident with John
Legend, counting something which was played by no other station,
no other network to pick this up. No, he didn't care. Of
course, there was just like, it was like what can we do to get
Bush back in the news. Well, let's dream something. Hey, this
reminded me by the way, when I heard this dude, this setup,
this situation that was created and then solved all at the same
time reminding me you and that's crazy thing you did about the
douchebag. Drug guy. And by the way, did not the douchebag drug
guy you mean
the guy who almost mailed my drugs to the to the governor?
What drug guy you're talking about?
You had a thing on the last show about that drug? Yeah. Who hiked
the price of that Paris. Oh,
that drives? Are you talking about important drugs? Oh, okay.
Yeah, the so called and now wait a minute, I told you about
Danny, the drug dealer when he gave me his child support checks
and almost mailed my, my weed to the to the government.
You're right. You're right. Anyway, so this douchebag drug
guy, Jaden buzzkill Jr at the dinner table just brought up the
idea that if he wanted to deconstruct this whole episode,
it was about the drug companies all do this. So let's find some
Patsy a straw man who happens to be a hedge fund manager so we
can make the association that all creeps are financial guys.
Don't pay attention to us the drug guys.
You know, you should do a show with him. No. Okay.
Anyway, so So they create this this phoney baloney situation
and they come out and make Bush sure Bush's re Bush is great.
And I didn't actually hear that, but that's the way they do it.
That's in my mind. I realised that clip. Okay, now here's the
other one. This again, this is again, ABC. Now they're out to
they're out to get. They don't want Trump. He's a pro Trump.
They're all everyone's against Trump to try to get rid of him
and they're doing everything they can. And they play
everything very coy the way they say, Oh, he's fallen in the
ratings. But you know, he's still 10 points ahead,
everybody's and probably more. But listen to this talk about
his stretch of a way to just slam some guy. This is the WTF
clip about Trump using the word shrill. This is like the big
lead in turnout of
the race for 2016. And to a new poll and the numbers tonight one
poll showing the Republican candidate quickly on the rise.
And it's not Donald Trump. It is Carly Fiorina. Yeah. Trump
meantime facing new criticism for his choice of words
describing a woman in the race, not free arena, but Hillary
Clinton calling her quote, shrill, some critics. No, no,
Trump has used that word to describe the man.
Well, social justice warriors get out your swards he said he
said something anti feminine, misogynistic. aihole. He's
saying is that the way they they play the story? He wouldn't have
said it about man of course in part to the he actually says he
would. But I don't know whether it
well before before that. Can I slide in here with what is
happening the way the way I see your beat is the three by three.
CNN is jumping on board. And we know that this is ultimately all
about advertising advertising rates, we know that Trump still
brings in ratings, the more importantly, the news networks,
all networks know that he brings him ratings. And we always need
to have it and you'll have some kind of horse race. We need
controversy. We need people you know, like freaking out about
stuff. It has to be a close race. So they have now teed up
this showdown, which is what it comes down to the showdown
between Trump and Fiorina in style,
Vladimir Putin saying he wants to meet with Trump when he comes
here. And he wants to sit down and have a conversation with
Putin.
I have well, the two of
them have a lot in common, actually. But let's leave it at
that. This as up front runner, Donald Trump continues ramping
up his criticism of the arena, I find it to
be very robotic. And I think a bigger problem, frankly, is her
horrible tenure at various companies that frankly, were
destroyed.
The arena shrugging it off. I don't spend a lot of time on the
campaign trail, thinking about Donald Trump. I really don't.
And so I'm gonna keep doing what I've been doing. But her
campaign telling supporters in an email when we get the point,
Mr. Trump, you're worried you should be you'll be seeing a lot
more of that face. And Trump also renewing his war against
Fox news on Twitter, tweeting, I am having a really hard time
watching Fox News. And after seeing his poll numbers slide
following last week's to see Trump Tower in New York
Magazine. I wasn't treated fairly by CNN, and it shouldn't
have been three hours long. It was too long departure from what
Trump initially said following the debate.
They were very professional the way they handled CNN did a very
good job.
So what they're doing here is that pitting Trump against V
arena, the poll numbers, it's all irrelevant, but they did say
Okay, now we'll focus on these two. Here's our little script
and a little reality show we're going to work on. Tit for tat.
Also big Trump look like whining you know Sad loser bitch, and a
liar. But the but the most important thing about this clip
I saw Carly Fiorina move her eyebrows. It's wearing off. The
question is,
they don't move very far. But now
but I saw a move and the question is will she up? Will
she re up the Botox? Will she get stabbed again? Well, it's
every three months. You know, you kind of gotta maintain that
stuff. So a
way to use it?
Yeah, except for now. Yeah,
let's see. Let me get back to my shrill thing. Because I never
finished I'm sorry. I was gonna make which was shrill and
Hillary Clinton. It has been a term it's associated with her. I
don't know for how long
she's always heard shrill.
Shrill for a decade. Yeah. So why is it now such a big deal?
Well, which is obvious just to lead and to just do a cheap shot
at Trump now I've been picking up on memes. One of them and
everybody uses them all the networks. They use sliding his
his numbers. Sliding, yeah, falling numbers. And then the
one ad that I like, I think Katie turn I have another Katy
Tur report and she's out to get him. Did not I've heard on two
or three stations now. And it was on a clip that I played last
show where they talk about the half empty room inside airline
empty seats. Yeah, empty seats, half empty room. He's speaking
to a half empty crowd. I'm now because I've because I've heard
this so many times. I'm now thinking that the half empty
room was a dirty trick. Possibly. Because dirty tricks,
of course, are part of the political landscape. We don't
hear as much about him as he used to during the Nixon
administration. When he had this this enemy who was always
playing dirty tricks on him. And he did just a bad he was a
political this guy. I can't remember his name. People can
probably somebody in the chatroom might remember it. But
this guy was that was the bane of Nixon. He was dressed up in
chicken suits was signs that said something silly. He was
getting more attention than Nixon for a long time, because
he was just a humiliating Nixon constantly. And I think that
this this has never really left the political scene is sort of
dirty tricks. And I think that half empty room was a dirty
trick. Somehow, that thing was cancelled. Gore was told his
cancel, who knows. But it seems like a dirty trick because it's
become a meme. But let's get to the WTF two clip, which is the
wrap up of of the evil Donald Trump and I want to stop for a
second and mentioned that people listening to this Donald Trump
analysis reduce a lot of what we're doing is showing you how
the media is trying to manipulate the public. And right
now Trump is just the absolute best example of an evidence of
this.
Yes. And, and I believe he will wind up holding the short end of
the stick on this. He has no idea when I saw that the the
I'll just call her a new producer to the show yesterday.
And you know, even the name Donald Trump there was fire
filled hate in her eyes you know, and horse just like wow,
you know, it works so well. And people know so little they
listen, you know, they get headlines. They just hear
something louder, isn't it who is now hates women age? Yeah.
Hates Muslim to hates when I was gonna kill all the immigrants.
Yeah. Right. It's like, it's like, you can see people who are
informed purely by Facebook. You can just see him. Yeah. All
right. Part Two there.
Anyway, this this is a very good study with new polls. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I just say this is a good study to follow this.
With new polls showing Donald Trump's lead shrinking, his
newly emboldened rivals are calling him out as thin skinned
and ill informed. Talking to all the people who attacked me.
I would have crawled under a rock long ago.
That's, you know, a new poll tonight showing for your Rena
now in second place in New Hampshire. And just behind her
Marco Rubio also taking aim at Trump is not
well informed on the issues. He really never talks about issues
and can't have more than a 10 second sound bite on any key
issue is a very touchy and insecure guy. Oh, we
Trump whipping into his competition.
Rubio I've never seen a young guy sweat that much.
He's drinking water, water. Water never saw anything like
this with him with the water. And today Trump fending off new
accusations of sexism after this comment about Hillary Clinton
and Hillary who's become very shrill, you know, the word
shrill. She's become shrill.
Trump insisting he would say the same thing about a man.
I think the word shrill doesn't apply to women exclusively. He's
gotten very loud. She's gotten very boisterous. And that can
happen to men too.
Catty. And David Trump now making a big push for
evangelicals tomorrow making an appearance at the Values Voters
Summit in Washington DC and on Monday inviting More than a
dozen church leaders to Trump Tower. David.
I wanted I wanted to tack on to that. Because you we have that
Hillary laugh. You know, I think your analysis of that was yes,
you know, she has to appear more friendly. And you know, they
have a whole new, a whole new way of her to act. I caught
Fareed Zakaria, who, of course, is an insider, even though he
claims himself to be a journalist. He's pretty much a
columnist to plagiarises. Frequently, Oh, yeah. And he was
talking, I guess he was being asked about, about Clinton and
how, you know, how she, you know, if she has a shot or
whatever, so he's all in, but then he hits a little tail at
the end of this clip, look, they
have to be worried. That would be silly not to be worried. The
truth of the matter is, Hillary Clinton is an incredibly
impressive public figure, in my opinion. She's, she's very
intelligent. She's always very well briefed. She's very smart
on policy. She's put out more policy papers, I think, than any
of the other candidates. She has trouble with the sort of
charisma element, you know, and the fact that she that is always
a struggle for her, produces, you know, invites on this and
she hasn't had the ability to do what Clinton just did, which is
to explain the email controversy in this long arc with the you
know, he has this way of effortlessly explaining it all,
which I think she could do with a smile. Yeah, it was it would
change things.
Yeah, there you go with a smile. They've talked about it. It's so
obvious. She's a little actress, little Meryl Streep. She is.
Yeah, it's outstanding. Now some of some of the memes and you
heard him in the last clip played in the and you'll hear
more of them, but the one that they're really poor, they're
experimenting with memes to make Trump look like an idiot. They
booed him at that event. They talked about that family values
event because he jumped on Rubio, they don't like that they
love Rubio, but I didn't get this clip. But after hearing
Rubio's his comment about Rubio being so damn thirsty, Rubio
when he went to this event, he says why so why do I need eight
bottles of water? Yeah, well, we've seen this is well known
for this. But the one that they're really trying to is the
issues when they he doesn't talk issues, and then the one that
are really going after him because they know it's damaging.
And they did it in that clip. thin skinned.
Yes, that same thing with that sore loser sore loser whiny bit
or thin
skinned. And to prove that I want just listen to this little
piece from this is the Trump CBS This is a teaser for tonight's
show on 60 minutes Trump's going to be interviewed by Scott
Pelley. And this is the teaser for that was on the CBS Evening
News. This is Trump CBS does not like lies that listen to how
it's set up. A billionaire
front runner is harsh on his critics. And we asked him about
that for 60 minutes. Why so thin skinned?
I don't like lies. I don't mind a bad story. If you did a bad
story on me for 60 minutes. If it were fair story, I wouldn't
be thin skinned at all. You know, some of the media is among
the worst people I've ever met. And I made a pretty good
percentage is really a terrible group of people. They write
lies, they write false stories, they know they're false, it
makes no difference. And frankly, I don't call it thin
skinned. I'm angry.
But a reporter asked you a couple of hard questions at the
first debate. And the whole week after that it's war on that
reporter. Well, I don't think that was a fair question.
impression is created, though, that you like to dish it out.
But you can't take a punch.
Oh, I think I can take it. I can take it if it's fair. Again. If
people say things that are false, which happens a lot with
me, if people say things that are false, I will fight like
harder than anybody. If I do something wrong, and that
happens, and they write a fair story that I did something
wrong. There's nothing to fight about. I can handle that. I
don't like like a very honourable guy. I don't like
lies.
He's making a mistake here.
He's making a huge mistake. It's a couple of things. You don't
want to hear what you have to say. But first, I'm going to say
this. He doesn't understand the meme wars. know if he should
call him out when they when the word thin skinned is used. Yeah.
Or buying his way into the presidency that this is another
word. Another word that they dropped that one yeah, I don't
hear that anymore. I hear it thin skinned is the one that
they're working with thin skinned.
Hmm.
Because we don't want a president who's thin skinned
people who are thin skinned and we don't
and we don't want someone who's thin skinned would fly off the
handle. We don't want them with their hand on that buy button.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, he's got the new button. Yeah, well, that
mean continues in. But for the entire Republican community at
large wondering with
anybody here sort of twigged that he chose Thomas,
did you hear that word twigged?
Have you ever had mean?
I had to look it up? Tweak This is British for it's kind of the
British version of grok. Did anyone hear grok grok? Yeah,
twigged? No, I looked it up here in the book of knowledge.
They that again then I was wondering
whether anybody here sort of twigged that he chose Thomas
Merton
says twig. Twig.
So I mean, understands anyone here understand why he chose
Thomas Merton is what is your question if
anybody gets it, I guess and here's the
question Friar, who had tolerance and inter religious
dialogue as his neat motif, inter religious
dialogue? That's a big you got to look out interfaith dialogue,
inter religious
dialogue. You're right. And this has been just the Pope is
pushing this well, and but yeah, who
else is pushing this? This is what for Tula Gulin pushes the
mom on the hill there in Pennsylvania, who's running all
the charter schools, either all about interfaith dialogue,
interfaith, this, it's, it's a trick. It's a trick I tell you,
neat motif.
And in that Congress was one of the Republican candidates for
presidency, there are two of the top Republican candidates have
decided to make a war on Muslims. Point 5 billion members
of another faith.
How did it Where did it Where did someone stand up and say we
should kill all Muslims and I missed something? By mean,
please make that leap. Well, if you're Christianna on and poor,
you can do all kinds of things
that were twigged or whatever, that's what syncs way like a
stick. Yeah, she
has another word here. Hello.
And it must be a little bit weird to have that sort of
discordant. When you know when when this pope is here talking
about what makes America great.
I thought it was a bull crap word first, but to discordance
is a famous word.
I've never heard it sounds good. So I'm just gonna start using
it.
You fit into conversations.
When you look at the media, there's so much discordance
between the interfaith dialogue perfect don't you tweak that
nailed? Do you tweak that baby? Do you do you tweak any of that
it tweak thing weakens our use of discord Just dropped that a
land a land one more grok I know you don't like that. Rock. So
rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock. Any more on wax? Yeah. Let
me see. Do I have something else here? No. Do you have any more
on the election? Can we move to the next topic?
Well, no, I think that I think I've got the election so Oh,
well. Yeah, Lee mais replay this disagreement. Let's move to the
NBC and get this out of the way because she's out to get him.
Katy Tur. Who was insulted by him even though it was looking
back and I think it was I think when he's with people in general
he likes to I think he tries to bring out the he doesn't an
awkward way, but I think he tries to bring out the best in
people. But she found it offensive. She's out again. So
here's Katy Tur. That would be her in Major Garrett are the two
that are just waiting to get this guy playing into the game.
Versus Trump part three
months of flying under the radar and refusing to comment on
Trump. Rubio is now attacking, perhaps smelling blood in the
water on Trump's foreign policy debt.
Just had a bad week. You know, Carly embarrassed him onstage.
She spoke the other day to a nearly empty room in South
Carolina and he's not reacting well to
Trump. So commanding a sizable lead is off to stump and
Oklahoma tonight. But not before he put his spin on today.
I didn't get yours. Cheers.
Trump did get a standing ovation when he walked into the room as
well as applause and cheers before and after the booing. But
when I asked him in the crowd, if they would vote for him, they
laughed and said, No, he's not religious or conservative
enough, Lester? Sure. Thank you.
That's why he brought his Bible out. So when I saw that
she brought so she did a straw poll as one person right? And
they don't they said, Yeah, they like me. They won't vote for
him. So this is like propaganda is a propaganda piece. And I
think they're sweetening Trump on some of these walk bys.
Because when he said, No, I didn't hear booze. I heard
applause boos from you. Yeah, I think they sped it up because of
you speed up trunk and Trump and I'm gonna prove this on the next
show. Are you screw with his sound? You can really make him
sound like a jerk. Ah,
okay, good. I look forward to that. That's very possible. So
you're saying they actually spin them up a little just to make
him sound? A little sound more whiny for sure. Yeah, based on
fear and I don't like when people lie. Good one. I can't
wait for that. That'd be good. That'd be good. You got to do
side by side man. That's hard. That's hard
lips. It just sounds like a whiny bitch.
Well, the Yeah, whiny bitch. That's a sore loser whiny bitch.
Since then skin crazy hair nut job hates immigrants. Go after
him. Yeah, he hasn't ground he has no idea water if anyone ever
needed the curry before I could political consulting group that
is him right now. He's doing it all wrong it. He's feeding the
trolls. Well, if you lie about me, I'm coming after you. Oh,
geez, really? That's the stupidest thing you can say
because they're going to do that now. But I'm still I'm still
waiting for for him to go after his kids and his wives.
I don't think they have to and I think they're trying not to.
We'll see. We'll see. Meanwhile, I could not believe my eyes we
have a full blown full on reality show go. And this of
course could only be CNN, I have to say CNN, they I really love
what they do. You love CNN? Because the it's so obvious that
everything they get is all from Project pundit. They're the
Pentagon. And you know, they send all their their people out.
In fact,
it has so many public relations people we had the number one
says it's over
10,000 It's 10,000. It's crazy number. Yeah. And he's like,
Hey, you're retired general. Here's your book. Oh, okay.
Yeah, gotten promoted. Here's your talking points. Here's your
agenda. Well, so now we, of course we know you've taught us
this what is the number one element needed for any reality
show? conflict, conflict and drama. So now not only do we
have two groups competing with each other, the leader of one
group is dressed in white. The leader of the other group is
dressed in black it could not get any better visually.
They famously split are competing for recruits. And now
it's personal. Tonight for the first time we hear al Qaeda
leader Iman also watery openly attack ISIS chief Abu Bakr al
Baghdadi, by name they say this is
it's like the Real Housewives. Well, she
stumbled on to something she she says something mean and she
didn't apologise when she insulted my husband. The
second an audio message is a watery colicky until I watch
Baghdadi and ISIS illegitimate.
We do not acknowledge the caliphate and the Muslims are
not obligated to pledge allegiance to it right. And we
do not see Abu Bakr al Baghdadi as one worthy of the caliphate.
This is pure frustration analysts say over Baghdadi and
ISIS heavily recruiting jihadists and stealing al Qaeda
propaganda thunder even
compare it to two drug gangs to mafia mops. And here they are.
One is encroaching on the other's territory.
A US intelligence official tells CNN this could reflect the
worries bitterness after ISIS rejected his attempts to mend
fences.
I mean this they're giving a backstory this is this for
people who maybe are new to the show. This is the format of
reality television view you start off with a conflict via
you show the white guy looking all white black guy looking all
black, you know, just to put them splitscreen Mark Burnett,
well who knows what could happen next and then they give them
backstory on why he hates him. Oh, she said this she said that
but there's
clearly personal animosity at play
the wiring Baghdadi hate each other a lot. The watery from his
perspective. See,
there's Andy Cohen, you know, telling them how much they hate
each other. And it's
Baghdadi as an undisciplined, disobedient upstart. Baghdadi,
for his part sees the watery as to mettlesome in other people's
affairs.
The broadside from one terrorist leader toward the other brings a
strong warning tonight from one of Congress's top homeland
security leaders.
Well, you can only guess what that means, John. I mean, if we
have two competing sides, what are they going to try and do?
They're going to try to blow us off? Yes,
Qaeda and ISIS will now ramp up efforts to outdo each other with
deadly consequences for America.
Do you see that kind of competition I worry that they're
going to up the ante to try to win V the winning game in town
and attack the United States?
The competition's already started competition. Hey, it's
from ISIS is playful. Hey, I
want to vote that guy off. Do we have a text number yet that we
can dial in Where's where's Ryan? Seacrest
or number to dial in? Yeah,
I'll kinda has recently stepped up its calls for lone wolf
attacks. Inspire magazine followers to assassinate
American business leaders like Bill Gates. Hey, wait
a minute now. Now we're talking reality television Bill Gates.
Who else we're gonna
say like Bill Gates, the Koch brothers. Oh, good. Koch
brothers. Yeah,
let's kill those guys. This
is great. Warren Buffett. What's the water? That's
a good start right there. Take those four Killam man and be
dancing in the streets.
He also indicated they could work together to attack the West
saying he was in Iraq.
stumped for a second. If I was gates, Buffett or even the Koch
brothers. They must know this is bullcrap. And I would be I would
go go after well after these reporters. What are you trying
to do? Why are you mentioned in my name? Oh, because we have a
report. No, you don't. You have no report. This whole thing is
bullcrap. And you keep mentioning my name is a target
because you could bring some lunatic out of the woods. work
now of course that would jack up ratings. But yeah, but basically
with Jack up ratings if you some lunatic out of the woodwork shot
buffet,
why don't why didn't why don't they say Trump or something else
cool or some other Republicans?
Maybe because Trump's not given to you because he's running for
president? No, I think it's because he's running for
President.
I'm sorry. It's a different show. It's a different reality
show. We can't cross the stream
that's different network. Through so to one
hurry also indicated they could work together to attack the
West. Oh, if he was in Iraq or Syria, quote, I would cooperate
with them in fighting the Crusaders.
He does not want to take all his chords off the table because of
the Islamic State begins to gain more momentum. And it becomes
even stronger than it is now over al Qaeda. And it is then
resolved here. He wants to leave his options open. Ba,
ba ba, ba ba. Fabulous. I'm very excited about the new one.
That's a good catch.
We'll be on the lookout now. It's
officially the watcher of this particular soap. We
need a name for it. We need a name for it.
It's got to have a name. It's got to have one.
I know it's I know keeping up with the caliphate. I like I
rolled them out. Okay,
jingle makers out there. We know you're out there. Keeping up
with the caliphate with a caliphate is a good jingles
are wiry versus Al Baghdadi, keeping up with the caliphate
last time on keeping up with the caliphate. Yeah, I think it'll
work. I think it will work winner.
Yeah, good catch.
Yeah, well be on the lookout for the one we're gonna see.
And then of course, you know how the show ends. The two of them
join sighs and go after. Always going after. Oh, wait,
we don't that doesn't become apparent until episode six. Oh,
no.
That's got to be deep. Yeah, it's not it's six. I'm thinking
13
as a season cliffhanger. You
mean? Yes. The season cliffhanger. Oh, man. Yeah. Ah.
So John Boehner quit. Yeah, cry baby. Just because you were on
the road.
I caught it. I was listening to CNN on the Sirius XM Satellite.
Yeah. I guess the meme is that oh, the far right. And his party
hated him. Yeah, right. The crazy far right far right. Far
Right
far away. Just just guys didn't like him. But now, let's play
this clip. Because there's a lot there's an element that I don't
think is in the clip, but they talk about it as though it's
news swing, that Boehner Boehner cried he cried. Do you remember?
I mean, when he's always crying, yeah. Boehner
five or six years ago, we're talking about how beta goes it
drops goes into tears at the drop
out. We have a lot of professors and scientists in the human
sciences. Why I need to close this window the wind is blowing
a little heart. I would like to know if someone is always on the
verge of crying. Does that not mean that there's some deep
childhood trauma gnawing away? What are them all at him all the
time that is just bubbling up to the surface like something
really, really horrible happened to this guy? And
I don't know. Maybe it's just sad because I remember
when you know, when I got divorced, although, you know, of
course it was joyous to be no. But it was emotional and I would
catch myself like watching the voice first of all watching the
voice and then second of voice
but there's just it's designed to be something that's a tear
jerker is called a tear jerker for a reason. But
my point is, I know this, I'm a professional. I don't blathered
the voice, but you know, there was all kinds of emotions going
on. And I'm watching the voice. Late no chairs turning
rice and no chairs. Oh, what are we gonna do? No chairs. So and
then the chairs go round and they all saw you.
You hope you could have won you were so close. up so I'm
thinking the guy has some show. Yeah. Some big, big
psychological thing going on underneath the surface or
shallow, very shed right underneath the surface. No, no,
maybe
he's deep. Maybe it's just He's deep.
Me. I doubt it.
Well, here's it. Here's a rundown from here with these
deep, deep. John Boehner quits his job
when Boehner said those fights were unwinnable he became the
enemy. Here's how conservative activist reacted today when
Senator Marco Rubio broke the news.
Just a few minutes ago, Speaker Boehner announced that he will
be resigning.
Since July, a couple dozen conservatives have been pushing
for another vote to unseat Boehner and the contempt is
mutual use words like knuckleheads and some other
words we probably can't use on television. Had you just had
enough I would
not describe it as as as having had enough. That's not it all
when you're the Speaker of the House, your number one
responsibility is to the institution. And, and having a
vote like this in the institution, I don't think is
very healthy.
I would vote it would vote. Is he talking about
John? They want to vote him out.
Oh, I get it now. Her face the same thing.
Hopefully not.
The uncertainty worries some Republicans like New York's
Peter King. Party. That's crazy to take it over. It could help
explain the
Crazy Chicken over man
taken over and this guy is the worst?
Yeah, did he's the warmonger crazy fuckup or monger.
He keeps doing things. You know, he just did a horrible thing
keeps having hearings. You know about stupid crap taken over. It
could help
explain why Boehner was so emotional when he met the Pope
yesterday.
Pope puts his arm around me and kind of pulls me to them and
says, Please pray for me. Well, to pray for the Pope. I but I
did.
Conservative groups declared victory today saying Boehner
stood in the way of their principles and practice the art
of surrender. But the early favourite to replace him Scott
is his chief lieutenant House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy,
Nancy, thanks. Thanks. Thanks, dad. Say
now, Nancy, thanks. Now there's something that was in that
report that I was thinking about ever since I clipped that, which
is this thing with the Pope who came up to him and says please
pray for me. I think the pope knows he's part of a bigger
scheme and he's gonna get killed
Boehner or the pope, the pope that he thinks, oh, wow, hey,
the vote goes up the banner and he's just says, Pray for me.
That's do you do that unless you think you're in danger. If
you're the pope Well,
you know, there's these hot Christian checks you know, you
do that you can get data with him.
Well, he will I don't think this is extremely perverted gay. I
don't think that was going on now.
I'm just saying that
but hope is you know, he's it this is very, I find that
particular moment and he's talked about it because he was
upset Boehner to the point he's crying but there was
someone else some other politician who also said I am
afraid the Pope's going to be assassinated who was that? Me
see?
And they'll get blamed Putin or something.
Susan Sarandon. That's who said that. Really? Yeah.
What did she say? What was the hurt thing? She's an atheist.
What does she care?
You're sure she's an AC atheist.
She was yeah, she can hold on. She
says the Oscar winning actress 68 told New York Daily News.
She's afraid Pope Francis will be murdered when he visits the
US. I think they're going to assassinate him. She said if the
Pope
was murdered and that's not going to happen. He's not going
to get murdered here.
They always do the goblet with the ring they open the ring with
the with the poison and the goes into the goblin voice.
He treats them the shells and the chalice.
The chalice Exactly. We know we know how it works. Please,
please
let me see me. You know what, why don't we? Why don't we move
into the B block here? We got a lot of things to handle. Yeah,
and then I've gotten the German Volkswagen fractious has become
more intriguing and more interesting. So
I have three clips about it. Good. Good.
We're on the same track. We're on this do you want to do that
now? Should we do that before the
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ready then, let me lead us into this. I'm very curious to hear
your clips. The Volkswagen discovery, which really man you
know, I'm getting so many emails from from Germany about how
disastrous this really is. This is going to put Germany into a
recession is the general thinking. But there's something
much bigger going on. I'm gonna this will be my leading clip.
And I want you to take it over just
demand growth for diesels to slow down and demand growth for
gasoline started to increase a little bit globally. And what's
interesting is that was against the narrative that quite a lot
of people expected. In
2014. diesel cars made up more than half of passenger fleet
sales in Europe. But concerns over diesel's clean credentials
have grown recently, particularly over as higher
sulphur emissions,
quite a lot of European carmakers were focused on diesel
because that has been the fuel of choice. European governments
have given diesel many benefits in terms of tax treatments. So
for European carmakers, it could be a change if this does feed
through into the consumer side and consumers start choosing
more gasoline cars as a result of this.
The tide of opinion had already started to turn on the
continent. The mayor of Paris announcing plans to ban diesel
engines in the French capital by 2020 as part of a plan to fight
pollution that other European countries beginning to rethink
incentives such as tax breaks. The European Parliament voted
Wednesday to tighten pollution rules. car makers in the block
could be forced into a strategic U turn if demand for diesel
completely stalls
them before we get into your your clips in your analysis.
Were from what I understand the whistleblower on this was some
Silicon Valley electric car company strategy consultancy we
were probably thinking oh this would be great we can screw
everybody they all go buy electric cars
but I think I liked the idea that that was what was going on
but
it seems much larger it seems well
there's a there's an element that was completely I don't
where'd you get that clip?
That is from Reuters.
That clip let let it's a great clip because it just shows you
the manipulation of the media Yes, in a big way because that
clip left out the most important element of the story. Now let's
we might as well do a whole his long clip I have here for
starters, I have two or three clips. But there's this little
long history Great Clips it says and this is the bomb is dropped
in here this the only people that cover this was BBC News
Week that were news or whatever that thing is they play once a
week. And they they were adamant about pointing the problem out
why are all these diesel cars being manufactured? Why are all
these diesel cars and I would give a little air pollution
information at the end about these cars
wasn't wasn't diesel fuel in Europe. Certainly it was
supposed to be you know The solution to everything?
No. Oh, it was not the solution to everything. And when you can
play the clip right after I say this, it was the solution to
global warming. The
change started in the oil refining industry. A barrel of
oil produces about 19 gallons of petrol, but as a byproduct, it
also yields about 12 gallons of diesel fuel. Once that diesel
fuel was mainly used, the oil fired power stations. But as
Europe shifted away from them, the market was over supplied of
diesel, lowering its cost as a car fuel. Policymakers embraced
it. Diesel produces fewer co2, carbon emissions and petrol, and
a series of European Commission regulations in the early 90s
favoured it. Then in the late 90s, taxes on diesel vehicles
were cut, more diesel was seen as a way to cut back on co2. On
one level, what happened in the European car market in the 90s
and 2000s, was a huge public policy success. Policymakers
wondered consumers to buy more diesel cars. And by working with
underlying economics, changing taxes and tweaking regulations,
that turbocharged the trend. More people now drive diesel
cars, that's brought then co2 emissions. But it's come at a
cost. And people now are looking back and asking, did they make
the right decision?
The preference for diesel and a co2 focused emission standard
was the worst policy mistake in the EU of the 1990s and the
2000s. And we live with the consequences for a long time.
The Japanese and the Americans sensibly listened to the experts
who said diesel is dirty because of nitrous oxide and particulate
emissions. The European Commission listened to the
industry the European industry, which one take diesel for
marketing reasons.
It's high time your authorities clamp down on diesel lorries,
belching smoke and smell.
We've known for a long time that diesel can be dirty. In the 90s.
The focus was firmly on co2 Not air quality, as diesel's market
share has risen, so to is air pollution.
Okay, good background, I didn't realise that it was the solution
to global warming.
Yeah, another one of these failed policies because people
are clueless.
Yeah, no, no, no. So that nitrous oxide nano and
o x and let me explain this a little bit. This is this is the
substance that causes air pollution photoreactive air
pollution that we get from the air, it gets into a bowl bowl
area like Los Angeles basin
and it was trained smog to create small small smog, right,
the sun pounds on it, it turns brown, which is a version of the
gas, it's not pretty gashes, nitric acid. It's horrible for
you and it's terrible stuff. And it's true air pollution. Now we
have been told, of course that the co2 somehow is air
pollution, which is not carbon pollution, carbon pollution,
right? Carbon pollution is not air pollution. This is this is
the bad stuff. And you can smell it on a lot of cars when it goes
by I'm very sensitive to it myself. Now. This nitrogen, NOx
comes in regular it comes out of regular gas pipes too. But most
gasoline cars have a catalytic converter. That's what is there
for the catalytic converter that's between the muffler and
then it removes the the NOx. It sucks the NOx out, it's got
platinum in it. Now why you can't just put a catalytic
converter on a diesel car, I believe and I don't know this
and I'm looking into it.
I think it's a performance issue. The pressure of the
exhaust is much more exact, I believe.
I think you can deal with that. I think I think the problem is,
is that there's so much soot, the particulate in diesel
exhaust that it clogs the catalytic converter and doesn't
allow it to work. Okay, that's my belief I that's just off the
top of my head I don't know what the deal is because it would
seem to me you could dream up some sort of catalytic converter
retrofit all these diesel engines with that and that would
solve the problem that they're having because they are gonna
have to remove these engines or something we don't know what's
gonna go on I even
seeing on the air stream forums. people freaking out because they
they bought they bought a Volkswagen to drag their
Airstream around like Oh, but now I'm gonna get the switch
back and I won't be able to drag as much weight and the people of
consumers are very, very worried about this.
Yeah. Now here's the here's the kicker. And this is the thing
that got me on this onto this story because of something you
said with this. About the the about this being wine now you
asked
my initial I'll just retrack retread. My initial reaction was
okay, Germany is saying, oh, we'll bring in all the all the
good Syrians we're going to be No, come on in. They have
effectively opened up the gates for all of Europe for these
migrants to be true trudging through on their way to Germany.
Let's face it, the Germans and the people hate the German so
let's let's screw with the Germans.
Well, I still don't I can't prove that but I can prove one
thing this scam was known about in 2014. Wait a minute.
Wait a minute. You're telling me that this this was already known
play diesel scam known in 2014.
Now I feel like I need a drumroll before this
software and some of its cars to cheat us emissions tests. Well,
apparently this particular dirty little secret was not so secret
after all. Here's a clip from Newsnight from December last
year, when our technology editor David Grossman, reported on car
companies enhancing their test results,
the car is actually able to detect that it's being tested
once it's on a standard test cycle. And they can use that to
put the car into a mode in which the engine is ultra efficient,
or to reduce the sort of pollution that's coming out of
the exhaust pipe for curing the test.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, but the car will know it's being
tested, and therefore will perform in a completely atypical
way. Yeah.
Now, this was from BBC again, good
news. Nice to show keep saying new news. Night Yeah, news
night. This is from the BBC News night, December 2014. All
revealed was up. Okay. Okay. So what Why does nobody do anything
for what 969 months nine months? You
know why? Because they were all waiting for me to find the Clip
of the Day jingle. That's why got it kidding me. So, of
course, if something like that doesn't get any traction, and
you could surely see why Volkswagen or Audi of this whole
same company would want to suppress that. But the news
media had nothing to gain and now they have something to gain
by effing Germany, like screw the Germans. Just screw me and I
think it's a big fu to Europe to you know how many companies rely
on you on pieces of the of the Think of the American automotive
industry we had to we had to bail them we had to save them.
That's how important it was.
Yeah, no, this is massive, massive. So let's finish do the
diesel in the EU final. This is a bunch of guys at the
roundtable on Newsnight. Just talk discussing it a little bit
more, and emphasising things a little bit more. So you can walk
away with something to think about,
you have drawn a lot of attention to how bad areas in
some cities, did Europe make a mistake in pursuing these?
Well, it's easy to say as we did with hindsight, at the time,
primacy of policy was climate change. It was it was the big
unsolved problem. The reason we went for diesel was because we
thought the regulations would work, the regulations were going
to become increasingly stringent. We thought they would
work and reduce emissions, with hindsight, which turned out that
that was a mistake, but they didn't
and it is it is it correct to say that as a result of that
mistake 1000s of people have died
in broad terms, we can say yes, I wouldn't like to put a finger
on it but but it's probably fairly large. And it's a
statistical association you know, as we say, you don't see
died of air pollution on death certificate. But there's a
strong evidence case for for the association between these
pollutants and amateur death.
The Germans have killed people. Surprise, surprise with gas.
Good work.
Oh, man. Oh, no. Well, just to give you I have two short clips
here just to give you the the scale.
But I just want to say you will note in the American media will
never bring this climate change thing up. Yeah, why not? Because
there would have to be all in on climate change. This is the scam
of it all. Oh, God. This is like a negative thing that happened
when you tried to do something about climate change. Just shut
up about it for Volkswagens,
US boss. The timing couldn't have been worse, a growing
scandal coinciding with the launch that's been sheduled for
month.
What was the launch? Whatever it was, it didn't launch. So the
timing is being
with this could result in the US. I have no idea. But this is
also
industrial espionage. Yeah, that brings up all kinds of thoughts.
Like hey there we're about to announce something big. Oh, now
let's screw them with something that was known for over a year.
Despite the confession authorities are not easing up
after a US probe found VW was cheating emissions tests on its
diesel vehicles. Like it
wasn't a it wasn't a probe. It was whistleblowers from Silicon
Valley, who were all in on battery cars, Jetta
investigations have now begun in South Korea and Germany. or even
calls for an EU wide inquiry. He sees my kin Grimm says it won't
just hurt VW, but Europe too. But one of the reasons why
Germany continues to do well as an exporter is that the
consumers of their products tend to be quite price insensitive,
and implicit in that is that they're buying quality and
again, the Bartlett VW puts a question mark against that, as
well as criminal charges in the US Volkswagen could face an $18
billion fine ICF kurz market trader, Arthur Brunner, you can
put
a stop over here there is considerable doubt about this in
the market because the events at Volkswagen will have to have
consequences. We expect some changes in the leadership. And
so the uncertainty is fairly big.
VW shares slid to a three year low in early trading while on
Mondays morning wiped $15 billion from its market
valuation.
Then we already have things happening around the EU,
Switzerland
says it is suspending Sales of Volkswagen diesel vehicles that
could contain devices capable of cheating emissions tests, and
the latest fallout from the VW emissions fraud scandal. This
after the carmaker said 11 million vehicles worldwide were
fitted with software similar to the kind that allowed the
company to rig US emissions test. Can
you imagine John that so here's the policy is give us all your
weary, your meek, your your people on the boats give us all
the Syrians we're going to put them in the factories we're
going to give them you know, a living wage, they're all going
to be okay. This is fabulous. Come to Germany. And then oh,
I'm sorry. We have to downsize our biggest industry. Because no
one wants to buy our cars anymore. This is the death knell
for the EU. This is this is like like 1 billion the laugh about
Yeah. Well, it's kind of humorous. But what you've blown
my mind to such a degree that this was on the BBC a year ago,
this was known. And yet now. Now the timing is you got to help me
what happened? I don't know.
I have no idea. I was thinking of your original thesis. It was
now's the time to pull the plug. Yeah.
Yeah, but who?
Somebody saw that earlier report. And just, I don't know,
whoever it is, is an evil person, because they're gonna
ruin everything for everyone. But you know, the thing I got is
there was already reports about BMW having similar issues. I
think all these diesels
BMW was also on the block. Now I have the report in the show
notes. So I bought it looks like BMW employed similar tactics.
You know what these Germans man pass the test? I think we need
to bring the climate change thing back in because then we
could blame climate change on Germany.
Yeah, let's do that. I mean, if anybody has driven when I was
in, this is a couple of years ago, but I was in Sweden, and at
the Volvo plant, and they have these little diesel cars and a
whole bunch of I wanted to get one but they won't let them in
the country because I don't think they have cheated enough.
But they hadn't. And they have this little test track. You can
get into these different cars, they had a whole line of them,
so you get to drive all of them. And so you get these little
diesels this, things go like bad out of hills. Yeah, it's
astonishing to me how much poop they had. I mean, they were
like, it was no different than the gas car,
right? The Turbo diesels are phenomenal.
Yeah, they go really fast. And so you drive it around like a
maniac. And then you find well, they're not allowed in the
United States. You can't do this. You can't do that. Because
I guess Volvo didn't have this software. That when else was
using,
yeah, this is well, I think things will become apparent all
by now as I keep watching the footage of you know, all those
grey haired German dudes who be like sitting at some
announcement, then, you know, with the guys, this big man man
culpa, em, they just all look so worried man, they look like they
get themselves very
worried. They don't really this is not like something that's
gonna go over.
It's not and the implications for industry in Germany in
general, is huge. 11 million cars. And it could be could be
more,
probably more to remember anything we ever discussed on
this show. The early estimate numbers on every issue, whatever
it is, whether it's the OPM via you know, break in where they
saw a million people, or there's eight now it's all these
fingerprint, five,
5 million fingerprints all stored on the same server. It's
a brilliant security move.
And so all that is always bigger. So the 11 million is the
first shot at the number. It's going to be 20.
I think you're right. And Audi my favourite car though
I will say this as an ex air pollution guy. NOx is the worst
I think is not allowed.
No Knox's is bad, bad mojo. I think if you see anyone driving
in a Volkswagen or specifically an Audi is certainly the ah, you
should see the egg and that car, the car, that car because
they're killing you with KNOX docks, the Knox.
Anyway. So there we have and that'll be a continuing story of
probably for the rest of the year.
Yeah, this is it's fantastic. And you watch I mean, the
economists, every single story I found was, you know, had quotes
from people on trading floors, you know, the financial people,
like, Oh, this is no one knows what to do this is the
Volkswagens not saying how they're going to address the
problem. There's a lot of uncertainty and markets don't
like uncertainty. But this will close this will close down
business. And who who's buying a lot of these cars? The Russians?
You know, this is a wait until Mercedes. Mercedes has diesel
still right? Yeah. Got a big deal. Mercedes diesels? Yeah.
And all taxi cabs are Mercedes diesel at this point, I think,
in Europe.
Well, the diesel and the kind of the environmentally conscious
might have diesels here really? Generally California drive
Priuses.
Well, California has all kinds of issues with with with diesel.
They weren't for Bowden to be sold at a certain point.
Yeah, well, I'm sure they're doubled up on that.
Well, while we're on the climate change, John, I know you're a
big fan of Moby. I know, you're all into his music and trance
and you'd like a lot of that stuff. And I'm not kidding,
right.
Now, in Moby so much, you don't like Moby.
Okay, well, you're gonna hate him after you hear this. And
this is a script he's reading, which only becomes apparent at
the end. But while you while you're while you're listening to
him, and actually, you can find the clip in the show notes. It
is a script and he has the solution for global warming,
which of course, is the most important problem of our time.
From my
perspective, every other issue that we care about whether it's
education, human rights, environmentalism, they all pale
in comparison to climate change. Because if the world falter,
climate, climate heats up, and sea levels rise. Every other
issue we care about deciding falls by the wayside. And from
my perspective, one of the easiest ways to address climate
change is animal agriculture. Because animal agriculture,
according to the United Nations is responsible for at least 25%
of climate emissions. So if magically, everyone on the
planet stopped using animals for food, climate change can be
decreased by 25%. Immediately. To put it in perspective, animal
agriculture is responsible for more climate gases than every
car, bus, boat, truck, aeroplane motorcycle combined. So I choose
to be a vegan I'm not saying you necessarily choose that but we
need to understand to animal agriculture would be one of the
easiest possible ways of dealing with climate change so Amobi
here in Washington DC Thank you for listening
just go all the way and let's let's get it over with Let's
kill all animals.
I think he's kind of alluding to that kill all animals kill all
animals. And I think we should start with kittens can yell all
kit and Moby said so bastards kill all
way did talk about rising sea levels. Let me just take a look.
Yeah, how are the mud flats doing?
They're still there. Oh, very good. There's a freeway by the
way, running alongside the mud flats in it. I believe it to be
at zero at sea level zero. And I don't see any water wafting
across it.
I want to stick in the EU for a moment. Because of course the
migrant crisis continues. And I will remind everybody they're
called migrants because call them refugees. And then you have
a whole different status un agreements, the Geneva
Convention. People have the right to seek asylum. But if you
keep calling migrants then you can just kick them out or not
let them come in or Leo don't take an aeroplane take a boat.
But the EU now has a plan. Oh thank goodness,
EU leaders are pledging $1.1 billion to the United Nations
and other aid agencies to help Syrians in the Middle East.
They're also increasing funds to countries like Lebanon, Jordan
and Turkey to help ease the factors driving Syrian refugees
to risked their lives trying to reach Europe. European Council
President Donald Tusk says the measures include much closer
cooperation and tighter controls. Now listen carefully
what Tusq says
it's clear that the greatest tide of refugees and migrants
has yet to come the following is to correct the policy of open
doors and windows.
This is very important what he's saying. We need to correct the
policy because the big wave is still yet to come. This is just
little it's like the kiddie pool. Wait until we get into the
deep end of migration. We need to close the doors and close the
open windows Prue sounds damn friendly to me,
German Chancellor Angela Merkel whose government's been accused
by something EU states of fueling the migrant influx also
appeared content with the measures
he wouldn't have stood before. The German government supports
the European Commission's proposals. This means this is a
first step. But we are still far from where we need to be
French President Francois lawned wants other countries beyond the
EU to take on a greater role. If Europe
is a collective founded on values and principles, there are
other countries, the United States and Canada which also
have to do their bit.
So there it is, screw Germany, down, they brought it on German
Germany has to suffer.
Well, that's gonna happen for sure. Yeah. Now, they have
suffering in their future
over at the United Nations. This is, you know, they're the United
Nations has un web TV, something like that. And they have an RSS
feed. So I've been, I subscribe to it and find it a lot. It's a
lot of crap as video to sit through. But they've been doing
this thing lately, where they're bringing in celebrate, he's got
Michael Douglas. They're just one after another. And I think
their their whole plan of attack is bringing as many celebrate
easy as we can until someone strikes a chord and then that
goes viral, which clearly is not happening. But here's an
example. This is Shakira, who will endorse anything from money
teeth whitener, and be a walk into a Walgreens. You'll see
Shakira is she'll, she will promote anything for money. And
honestly, if I were the UN, I'd invite her over to he's hot.
It is it is, without a doubt, one of the greatest humanitarian
crisis of our time.
Now, of course, she's reading as a good seller, but he spoke so
will do. And she
gonna give us a clue as to what she's talking about.
She's talking about migrants the refugee crisis. So yeah, I'll
start over as you can. Yes, of course, this is a block. This is
a package, a package of clips.
It is it is, without a doubt, one of the greatest humanitarian
crisis of our time. And the image of that little boy washed
up on the shore is a tragic one, and one that we shouldn't ignore
and shouldn't forget that it should. And it should humanise
the plight of the refugees
that she's she This is a script that has been written by someone
who's frustrated that the little boy thing Yeah, and it's short,
live life fizzled out kind of quick. Me I didn't really do
anything, because we all know ultimately, who's responsible
for this, right. Putin? Well, a Putin Assad. Assad is the guy
who has degrees in that little boy was
yes. And listen to her final words in this script.
Because children should not pay the price of war. And because
all of us have a responsibility today, and we cannot escape it.
Not the leaders of the world and not us and civil society. We
need to come together. And we need to demand adjust, exit to
this humanitarian crisis,
adjust exit to this humanitarian crisis. Hello. That means one
thing and one thing only Assad adjust exit for Assad. This is
so obvious that giving these stupid celebrators the scripts,
listen to this little kicker at the end here, when she's done,
and then she's posing for the cameras and the photographers
are telling her how to how to turn and how to
twist Yeah, yeah.
Yep, front. Okay, good. Yeah. Great. Thank you. Good work.
Here's your check. Now, luckily, Assad was interviewed by was
this a German outfit? No, no, I can't remember who this was. And
Assad explains exactly what is going on in 20 seconds. So
it got to this position that those of us are flooding the
Syrian government, what they call it regime, of course.
Actually, it's like the west now is crying on the refugees with
one eye and aiming at them with the machine gun with the second
one, because actually, those that furies left Syria because
of the terrorism,
so he says, hypocrites, you're crying about the refugees with
one eye, but you're aiming at them with a machine gun with the
other because the people are fleeing the terrorists, ie the
moderates, the United States and Britain and France and the
coalition have funded along with the Saudi Arabia. Bingo Boom
shakalaka.
Well, things could change quickly if the Russians was
you're loading up in there just decided police state the whole
area and say no, no, no, no, no.
I think I think Putin has an interesting tactic and he's been
very clear. I mean, it audios not usable, but I did put the
clip in the show notes. You can see him with that. or translated
subtitles saying, yeah, we've always supplied weapons to
Syria, we're going to continue to do that. And we're going to
go in and we're going to kick the terrorists asked, we're
going to get ISIS. And Putin is calling on, you know, an
international coalition, which President Obama does not like at
all. Because he's supposed to be leading the coalition and Putin
saying, hey, you know what, we're gonna get rid of ISIS, we
are gonna do we're stepping in, we're gonna go kick ISIS ass.
And eventually, that message is going to come through come
through, eventually, the media will not be able to get around
it. And we'll say, Okay, here's what he is ignoring this. Yeah,
but it's, this is exactly what he's doing can
do it. And he is insulted. And there's precedent he is they are
allies. Yeah. What is he supposed to do just stand by
idly Exactly. So that we have no real excuse. Now. I was watching
a lot of Chinese TV. And it was an interesting crawler. They had
a bunch of interesting stuff underneath their their news
coverage. One of the things is that you is that Ukraine is
asking to become a member of NATO.
Surprise, you heard that anywhere? Not recently. No.
It's apparently happening as we speak. Which is gotta go the
Russians. I saw I was following the Chinese, you know, she came
over here and they had a big fancy dinner. And with Obama,
there was a bunch of meetings in Seattle, we talked about on the
other
hand, they had they had a closed door meeting even they had a
closed door. You know, what they're discussing their how
Obama and z and the Pope are going to announce the existence
of Planet X. You wait.
While you go off in that direction, I did do an interest.
I did catch something interesting. First of all, we
can preface it with by playing the click clip was a useless
clip. Now I think about it. But it's kind of interesting. This
is tech deals with China that was on the CC, Chinese
television G
and internet companies. And there were some alliances
announced Microsoft's that it would make Baidu The default
search engine is new windows 10 operating system in China,
replacing its being service. Cisco, the networking equipment
producer announced a joint venture with Chinese server
producer in spur while the business networking site
LinkedIn and ride hailing app Didi Kuaidi said they would
cooperate in artificial intelligence to create new
market opportunities.
Do you want do you want to? Do you want to get in some tech
news?
Yeah, let's use a little technique well before Yeah,
let's do a little technique.
Only good phones a landline. And the phone should be made out of
Bakelite.
That's right. Everybody has time. Once again for tech news
on the no agenda show the only tech news that does not suck up
like tech Hornies, hail apple.
Hail Apple, hail apple.
Well, while on hail, Apple, the I don't hear a lot of the tech
Horni talking much about this seemingly simple hack that took
place in China, where malware was baked into a copy of X code,
or what has been guessed that the malware has called X code
ghost. And it has infected us so far. Today, we know 39 of the
iOS apps, which are supposed to be entirely safe and Apple takes
care of you and they check every checks, because Apple checks
everything. And this includes WeChat which of course a lot of
people in the US use as well as the Chinese. But the one that
tickled me It's perfect 365 That's the selfie app that
allows you to you know, make yourself look beautiful with
makeup and make your eyes bigger and change your entire face.
That thing must be loaded on millions of phones. Yes,
millions. And what this malware does is it takes your
information, all of it and shoots it off to some
controlling command server and I guess they're gonna use it for
its Wow, nice tractor dude. I guess they're gonna use it at
some later date. But this is a huge you know? What do you call
it a slap in the face? Yeah, well, yeah, breach. So let's
slap slap in the face for Apple. Not a lot of cover was talking
about it. But you know what's interesting? This is exactly the
same way the CIA deployed malware in the past by putting
it into the development tools. So knowing that most that mainly
apps that are used by Chinese users were affected by this. I'm
thinking that maybe this was a CIA ate up on Apple to get into
the Chinese phones.
Well, you have to remember that the apple, the apple refused to
cooperate. We from now on we call it the apple, the apple has
to cooperate with the government hail the apple. And this has
become a
Yeah, Apple has always said we're not going to let you in.
We're not going to let you in and no backdoors go away. we're
encrypting everything. And now they're in and let me see when
we look back in history. The I think they did as an X. It was a
it was also with Xcode. I think the CIA did this Xcode trick
already in 2012. Here it is. Although Xcode goes to the first
malware to spread this way in the wild, the techniques it uses
were previously developed and demonstrated by Central
Intelligence Agency researchers at the CIA's annual Top Secret
jamboree conference in 2012. With a guy handing out merit
badges to the CIA Jamboree, everybody, using documents from
NSA whistleblower, Edward Snowden, the Jeremy Scahill,
describe the CIA's Xcode project in a story published in March.
So this is it, you know, just outcomes razor. I think the CIA
did this. They can do it. And it's interesting that this
happens at this moment in time, and we had cybersecurity
hearings on the hill, pretty much, Admiral Mike Rogers,
saying, oh, we need more money, and I have to rip the whole
thing apart. I
don't know how to do it. But what is bad is that no one wants
to work at NSA anymore, because they've changed the policy. And
now they're spying on every single employee that
often can provoke a strong reaction from the workforce who
says, so let me understand this because of the actions of one
individual. Right? You are now monitoring me? You're now
watching my behaviour in a way that you didn't necessarily do
before. Hey, do I want to work in a place like that? No.
But I have a little insight on this. Okay. At a recent meeting
with our economic hit, ah, you spoke with him good, who was a
very connected in the intelligence community appears I
didn't know how much connected until we had this chat. But is
so you actually left the house? I do leave the house once in a
while when it's something important. Okay. Gotcha. Like
when, when the flags up?
Do you have do you have to be holding a copy of The New York
Times?
Oh, do to go to Berkeley to meet him.
You know, you have to have a you have to have a coordination,
coordination, your power. So, you sit on the bench back to
back and talk to each other? How does that work to set the stage
set the stage set the stage?
So he says his son and daughter I guess, especially his sons
been solicitors in college, and he's been solicited by the
agency. And he's, and he there's a couple of things. First of
all, his Russian girlfriend that has been keeping him from
listening to the show and helping us not really a Russian
but she seems she speaks perfect Russian and she has red hair.
Well, Joyce, she's
she hot?
I should I know he wouldn't you can't send pictures around. You
get to
just you know, just fold one newspaper. Did he give you a
Manila yet? Did he give you a manila envelope with like stuff
in it?
No, I didn't get the manila envelope. So she he had them
finally broke up because she was spending too much time as she
was. She was hurting the show. Well, he told me a few other
little tidbits, which is why I wanted to bring this in since
you brought up NSA. First of all, his son decided that he
wants to learn Arabic. Yeah, I think that's a good idea. It's
impossible job thing. He was still with him. And she just
scolded him apparently not to learn Arabic ever. Why? If
you're going to work in intelligence? Why? Good? I'm
glad you asked. Yes. Because you learn Arabic, you are
immediately digital. And you get these horrible assignments in
the Middle East living in mud,
sand, and you can't get out of it. Great.
So don't learn Arabic This for people that no agenda listeners
who want to join an intelligence agency, you
should learn Chinese IPs, Chinese Chinese Mandarin.
That's, that's yeah,
Chinese would be great. Well, yeah. Because well, China,
Admiral Admiral Rogers
was asked about Hillary Clinton's email server. And I
thought that was interesting, because the questions were good.
And I think I believe it all fits in tech news, because we do
have our dudes named Ben and they understand how these things
work. What would be
your response if the current Secretary of State or a another
cabinet member came to you and said Admiral Rogers, I'd like to
set up a private non governmental server and use that
to conduct official business.
I would say is it going to run Linux? Are you going to run
Exchange Server?
You really want to drag? Yes,
by the way, Have you seen this Rogers guy? He looks like he's
dead. He looks like he looks like a ghost guy does not look
healthy. Very, very. And he's he's also the commander of the
US Cyber Command and director of NSA. Sir.
Like, I'm simply like your professional opinion
in my mind, Mike Conway be you need to ensure you're complying
with the actual applicable regulations and structures for
your department. I'll be the first admit I'm not smart about
what the rules and regulations are for every element across the
federal government,
or the communications of the senior most advisors to the
President of the United States, even those that may be
unclassified, a top priority for federal foreign intelligence
services. In your opinion, yes. If an NSA employee came to you
and said, Hey, boss, we have reason to believe that Russian
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, or Iranian Foreign Minister
Javad Zarif is conducting official business on a private
server. How would you respond
from a foreign intelligence perspective that represents
opportunity?
Yeah, we know that, you
know, that was a kicker back at second.
Are you aware of any NSA officials who emailed Secretary
Clinton at her private account?
No, I have no knowledge. I apologise. I
just tried to make aware of any NSA officials who were aware
that Secretary Clinton had a private email account and server
only now you're talking about something before my time,
Senator, I apologise. I just don't know the answer.
Could I could ask you to check your records. Yes.
Place is a good point this, because this
guy who is the senator, he's really going after it. Yeah,
I'll
look it up for you, though, maybe wasn't worried sick
about him? Are you getting in because she's gonna kick ass and
take names later.
And most importantly, you know, you've got to think of all the
internet traffic that is being spoofed and sniffed and looked
at, of course, NSA has this, this has always been the joke.
Oh, just as NSA, they've got a backup. Now someone finally
asked NSA. Do you? Are you aware of any emails coming from this
private server? Before my time? Yeah, but could you please?
Could you please check that? And I think he actually says that's
a great record for the question, a question for the record. So
there will be a record? And of course, they're going to find
that and you know, I think what was it recently that there was
some unfound email chain with oh, god with General Petraeus
about Benghazi? Could it get any better for this woman?
Oh, yeah, this is gonna be great. And it's this,
I love it. I love it. Got some interesting news about Facebook,
they'll be using RSS for their instant articles, this could
potentially be good news, this will be a break in the walled
garden. Not that it'll make Facebook any more pleasant to
visit. But still, what? Facebook will be using RSS technology for
its instant articles, meaning you will be able to publish from
Facebook and ingest into Facebook. That's interesting.
Yeah, that's breaking the walled garden. I think it's I think
it's
a bold move on to slow the thumbs down thing was the big
screw up.
Yeah. Did that even get deployed? How would you know?
How would you? Why am I asking you? I don't care. Why am I
asking you? Oh, this fits in with the face page in the tech
news. So this is how sad it is. We're driving. We're doing this
six hours to Salt Lake City. And we get the connectivity pretty
much the minute we're out of the park, we get connectivity. And
then the first thing comes through is Oh, hold on a second.
There's a there's a message from John, that newsletter please
read and he always asked me to be always send me the draft. So
I can look for style and spelling and you get something
you want to add. Now if I want to add something. So I'm driving
me and this is an 80 mile an hour Highway. This is nice. I'm
driving and then he also to the keepers like well, we'll do this
together. So of course, she really did all the edits. And
then apparently you had a whole follow up email conversation
with her. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Just so you know. So I know what to
say, you know, I know what you're doing. What if you're
trolling, trolling for what crazy ass pictures you can use
for the newsletter?
Yes, I did. I asked her for some pictures. And she said
okay, so that will be in a future newsletter. I recommend
you subscribe to the newsletter. And then she's like, I also
want to go do a little back and forth with her because you said
that she thinks I'm an asshole.
I never saw yours. Oh, no. Oh my god. That is so nice. I said
exactly.
Wrong. I would I jumped to conclusions. You said the eye
was a short short
show. Short with her. No. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was a while back.
Yeah. No, because I said
she's a big fan. She's
a big JC male game and she said Somebody said, Okay.
She's a big, very sharp she's a big no, she didn't say that. I
said that.
She said, Are you just trying to cause trouble?
I'm trying. But she's a big fan. She's a big fan of the
newsletters. This is what she does her job she does this kind
of
I had to I actually just last newsletter was so long. I'm glad
she helped. But I would like to discuss a couple of points that
you made in that newsletter. Can I kind of get my point probably
learn to something.
All right. In a moment, we'll do that in the in the D block. No,
we're not doing it on the show. Okay. We'll send her an email to
boys Saturday, send her an email. She loves you been and so
of course, now she's on her laptop. He's like, Oh, boy. I
forgot to wish my daughter a happy daughter's day. And I say
to him, yeah, exactly. And I say, what is that bull crap all
about? So someone started on Facebook. It's an international
daughter's day. And there isn't international daughter's Day,
which falls on August 11. But this just shows you how and as a
part of moral self licencing all I have to say something nice to
my daughter on the face page, you know, then, then I'll be
good for another year.
That's not happen on this show.
No, but I just want to say that it's so easy to start something
up on the face page. Yeah, everyone's only Oh, I love my
daughter. But my daughter. She's the best thing that ever
happened to me. Why do I have asshole kids? We know what
parents really think. Yes. So we should think about starting
something up something. Yeah.
National no agenda day. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I
mean, it has to be something that will get legs.
But Louis. Yeah. Well, I could get legs. Yeah. Send photos. You
got anything else?
You got anything else?
No, no, I think only good phones a landline. And the phone should
be made out of Bakelite.
That's right, everybody. That's all the tech news you need. It's
all you need.
I got a little tech news, but I'll just as an afterthought,
okay, hail the apple. Now, C span does this once in a while
and I you know, I'm very suspicious of C span. I think
they do certain things just for the like, and I'm not gonna say
it's for the intelligence community or some maybe some
spies or industrial guys or whatever. But once in a while,
they they and I think maybe it's just lazy. I'm not sure what
they're up to. But they put on a camera on the walkway, to the
dinner to the state dinner with the Chinese guy. Oh, I
haven't I didn't see that. Yeah, the Chinese guy, the Chinese
guy. The Chinese guy. She's She She
shows yours. They show him coming in the back. He came in
in the back and then they then they have these people coming
in. They're announcing them a bunch people they don't announce
they end. But this was a very interesting group is getting us
to the point. This was mostly tech people. It hadn't Adela and
his wife. John Lasseter came rolling gates, Bill Gates was
there. I didn't seem to walk and gates or Gates.
Gates was not at the lead table. The interesting thing about the
lead table, the main table were Obama sat in the middle facing
the audience behind the podium behind him. The Chinese she's
wife was on his left. And she he never looked at her. I thought
it was number eight snubbing her. His wife was on the other
side, then she or no, she was next to him, I guess. And then
his wife, she, then Michelle, and then you couldn't recognise
anybody except I could see that directly across from she was
Tim Cook, Tom Collins.
He came in as like an honoured guest. And who do you think he'd
bring for a date?
Hold on a second. This is a good I like this a lot. Now we know
that. Tom Collins is gay. But did he bring a man? You have to
give me that?
You're gonna ask me questions. Okay, I'll answer one. Yeah. Did
he bring a man question? Is it gonna be that is that going to
be the question? That's the question. II know.
You know, then a woman you brought a woman Wow, this is a
give me a second
question. Okay. Okay, it's not the question.
Oh, I get to ask was the so it was a woman, I presume? Wait a
minute, was it Caitlyn Jenner?
Oh, that would have been fantastic.
I guess I'm wrong. That's too bad.
And by the way, that's not a question that is the guess at
the answer. Oh, how
many guesses do I get?
I'll give you two more.
Okay. Tank Girl, Miriam Shuar
Oh, come on. Yeah, these try not to get a real question. Well,
Megan Smith. Oh, that would have been a good day. Good idea
because you know that never Smith there. Know why X. X EPA
had Lisa Jackson.
Oh no, of course she's the spokeswoman for the apple. Oh, I
forgot about that. Oh, wow.
Damn. Oh, she just loaded over everybody. She's coming in
there. Oh,
I bet she she was walking around like her shit don't stink. Did
Jeffrey
Katzenberg come in with a man or a woman?
With a man? Course? Yeah, his husband.
Yeah, I guess. Yeah. As He Who else was there that was of
interest that a couple of bills just blew and some people
stopped and posed and did this and that. It was actually quite
interesting. But it was Mark Cuban, there was Mark Cuban and
I didn't see Mark Cuban. At least he wasn't during the the
part they allowed us to see. Then they went in and they
listen to Obama speak and then and he couldn't seem to
recognise anybody was a demo room. So it was useless for
intelligence at that point.
I do have one last story for the tech news. Although we kind of
close out the segment. It's no matter how well we deconstructed
it, no matter how many people turn up and say and credible
technology. People say, this is bullcrap. No matter how many
times we point out the relationship between this the
kid sister and the Council on American Islamic Relations, and
the timing of everything and the and the fact that there was only
a 10% Caucasian population amongst the entire school. The
mainstream media has just gone all googoo gaga for Ahmet for
clock boy,
you think that one of the networks I've been following
this trying to find a network that would have the guts to do a
mia culpa? No, not gonna, but they're not going nuts. They're
just dropped the story. The three bites.
Oh, okay. But I'm seeing nothing but it's continuing on cable
news is no three by threes have all dropped it. Okay, well, then
it's then it's just a little, just a little blip at the end
here. But clock boy goes to Google
14 year old Achmed. Mohammed is a star star science fair in
California. students and adults are all eager to have their
pictures taken with him. It's quite a change from a week ago
when the 14 year old was arrested and then suspended for
bringing a homemade block to school. But if officials in
Irving Texas don't want him, others do, I'm a
teacher. And that is the kind of kid you want your class, right,
that kid that is inspired that wants to go out and do lots of
cool things. Google promptly
sent him an invitation to their science fair, where he got to
meet with fellow nerds from around the world nervous
just makes us glad that he's having a good time. And that he
can be with kids that are interested in
the same things that he is.
Next, he's scheduled to meet
with that girl, by the way is, is a market ad like a VP of
Marketing at Google listen to. She's 12 years old, but he is
next. He's scheduled to meet with officials at the United
Nations. Not bad for a teenager who likes to play with circuits.
Circuits.
You heard this kid talk? Yeah, of course. He sounds like an
idiot.
Yes. Correct.
He sounds like an idiot. And then he does all he does is tear
stuff apart.
And they keep dressing him up in that NASA t shirt that things
got to be smelly by now. I've been ordered NASA send him a
whole box and see why he was sending by a sister to do Oh,
it's so easy. So easy. Now, the Hertie is going to the UN the UN
is
pleased. Yeah, it's just getting worse. Yeah,
yeah. And it's the abuse of this child is going to it's going to
end poorly because he's just celebrating. You know, he loves
it. He's taking selfies with all the hot girls, right?
This is gonna crash Well,
I guarantee heroin overdose for this kid is not going to end
well. I know how this goes. versus some weed then it's coke.
Then before we know what it's crack, and then it's heroin.
This kid is not good. The United Nations came out with a report
John and this report and words matter a lot. In this particular
case on on let me bring it up here. It was the
Hold on a second. What do you what did you What do you have
for a time check right now? Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna go
to the blind. I don't want to now don't want to end the show.
I just wanna with your time check it's
time check to 10. Okay, all right. The organiser of the
United Nations broadband commission for digital
development, released what they call a damning worldwide wake up
call for what it calls IBOR vog cyber vog vog VAs rubber vog VA
WG vog vog cyber fog. The fog is an acronym violence against
women and girls. And I will start with the what is she
Doreen Bogdan Martin. She is a member of she's with the ITU,
who of course, sometime in the future will be in charge
indirectly. But in charge of the ICANN, they assign numbers and
names and pretty much the the administrative part of the
domain name system, certainly the registration system. And
here is her little PR Diddy on this report, which you must read
copy in the show notes. Of course,
this new report by the United Nations broadband commission for
sustainable development comes at a critical juncture in the
explosion of online apps and services explosion. Hardly a day
goes by, without some new story in the media concerning cyber
violence against a girl or a woman. Now,
cyber violence violence
is the first three definitions in the dictionary is I consulted
a violence is really associated with physical contact.
I would think so. A bomb blows you up. I think that's violence.
Yeah, I think somebody's coming over punching you in the nose.
That's via this is somebody shooting you.
This is very, very important that, you know, this is now the
United Nations. They don't do crap. But they do set up all the
other believers in the bots to get on board and like, Oh, yes,
violence against girls and women violence on cyber violence.
The problem of online violence has become a pandemic.
Hit you do you feel it.
Online violence has become a panic pandemic, the love the
pandemic. So yeah,
and women and girls are more often the victims.
Well, at least I do is I do her. Would you just commonly see in
comments I do. Do violence.
That's why violence this A Yes. And I will you will find out why
that Oh, it's a big part of the vawg.
Our research suggests that 73% of women on the net have already
experienced some form of online violence,
at least women are ahead in something that's good.
My own agency ITU is based in Europe, where our research
indicates that 18% of women have experienced a form of serious
internet violence as young as the age of 15. Serious internet
violence is
what's serious and minor. Well, what do you do? We're gonna say
serious internet violence. What is serious internet violence?
We're going to find out
in a moment, and that's a shocking figure shocking when we
realised that this corresponds to about 9 million women. Oh no.
In this report, we're arguing that complacency and failure to
address cyber violence could significantly impede the uptake
of broadband services by girls and women worldwide. The net is
an amazing resource for female empowerment and we need to
ensure that as many girls and women as possible benefit from
the amazing possibilities it offers
so cyber violence comes down to speech the end
these is an anti free speech thing which is very important
for the everyone to adopt we should we shouldn't be talking
about anything I'm surprised this shows allowed to be on the
air well
for instance, if the things that come out of my piehole often I
could be considered very violent. And the solution in
look for this term is an effective TOS effective TOS
that's the term we need to be on the lookout for Terms of Service
effective Terms of Service BS, which described very well what
you can and cannot say. And of course Reddit was you know, I
would say the canary in the coal mine on this and as we all know,
that that douche woman was kicked out because she was a
woman not because she was a shitty CEO and a liar. But who
should appear at this UN meeting with with about this violence
towards women? But Zoe Quinn have now it all comes together
for me. I do you know what? What are you doing?
I'm trying to add dramatic sounds we don't have enough
dramatic sounds. Alright,
good. Well, I like it. I like it a little closer. A little
closer. Oh, sorry. Do accents accents. Do you remember who Zoe
Quinn is?
The name I'm trying to drive without looking it up. I'm
trying to dig through my grey cells but I can't help you. I've
heard
of it though. GamerGate This is Oh god yes finally it comes to a
head. This is the the Grand Poobah of social justice
warriors Zoe Quinn, you want to find out about her you have to
do your own research because I'm not even getting I'd we have no
standing in the gaming world. But this is the woman who
I want to interrupt it we sure got a lot of flack for not
covering it.
Well, I think some of that now, in a way is justified because
this is the culmination of the efforts of the social social
justice warriors, who you know, fight against triggers and
trigger words and all these things you can and can't do. And
I'm just going to play until we can handle it no more. They give
Zoey the floor and just listen to what she's saying.
We deal a lot with triage. So people come to us when things
have already gotten to the worst. And I can tell you right
now that one of the most effective things we see is an
active and humane response on Tech Tech partners side that is
one of actors
and two main response on tech partner side John, this is gonna
get great,
most effective things and it's also often sorely lacking. This
requires proper moderation, which will which takes into
account things like intersectional feminism,
what the hell is that?
I want some I'd like three pounds of internet
intersectional feminism, I think it's where you can be a woman
when you're a man. Or if you think you're a woman and you
were a man want to be a man. And we triage you. See treat? See
triage is intersexual feminism
so Terms of Service can taking into effect things like the fact
that trans women often face a very specific type of violence
called Dead naming where people post pre pre transition names in
an effort to intimidate, harass and endanger their lives. Things
like they need to be trained and things like the way domestic
violence can manifest online because the viral nature of the
internet can take all of the goodness about things like
marketing, things like grassroots activism and apply it
to domestic abuse just as easily, as you saw in my case.
Now, what's interesting about this, Zoey one, is she has all
these rules and things that need to be stopped and people need to
be protected. Yet you're going to hear in a minute, she herself
wants to be protected. Because she's a warrior. And we need to
have you know, of course, we need to protect people who are
doing good. But who is going to determine whether you're doing
good or bad is ultimately the question.
Or maybe you didn't, but yeah, well trained responders. And
that requires you
when she says this little ego bitch. She says, oh, sorry, that
was violent. She's like, maybe you heard about my case, well,
maybe he didn't maybe didn't hear about my case. My case is
so important, as
you saw in my case, or maybe you didn't, but well trained
responders and that require that not just in tech companies but
as well as law enforcement that don't end up re victimising the
person dealing with this. This is so common in domestic abuse
and other sorts of abuse, which is also again, not often found,
and supportive social networks that don't downplay what what's
happening that don't tell them to just get off line and hide
which we've seen in cases like Kathy's here is doesn't actually
even work.
Don't Don't just say you we need effective. So what she's what
she's calling for here is for little cyber units at every
social network, who are going to take the millions of complaints
where you know, exactly as you said, I door a door and then
come and arrest you and break your kneecaps or something
mental health professionals because oftentimes this these
sort of things will not be taken seriously one of my own agents I
had to call Why does she have agents that's confusing to me,
his health care provider because they thought he was
schizophrenic that people like me didn't exist and that the
that a bunch of anonymous people doing this to somebody wasn't
possible. In terms of prevention, education about even
just digital self defence since we are so far behind on this
issue can keep people safe, whether that's training people
on what Daxing is, which is when people find your home address
and posted online,
I'm pretty sure she is guilty of Daxing herself as an aside,
encouraging further action against you or to intimidate and
harass you. And now here comes things like swatting where
people call and false police reports to your local tip. I
don't think
we need a cyber police for swatting if you do that, then,
you know that is something that takes place in the real world.
There are all kinds of laws against
against doing that. Yeah, that's a real world promise not a cyber
anything. There's no cyber and vog vog,
there will be people erroneously just dispatched to your location
to harass you further. Just basic things like digital
security, a lot of people probably and maybe even in this
room probably still use the same password for everything and in
2015 We have no excuse to keep doing that. We also need to see,
again, these effects effective Terms of Service I take all of
the different ways that different people broke from
different layers of marginalisation or geographical
location experience online harassment,
marginalisation, oh John, we're so frickin do Boom, brother.
We're doomed.
We need people that are actually belonging to these demographic
working in these departments. So it's not just an echo chamber of
a bunch of people.
Yeah, here's where she's shilling for a job. She keeps
saying she need to, we need good tech partners. We have to have
the right people in the tech companies, Cyber Police. That's
what she's talking about. Cyber Police are already
in tech deciding what happens to the rest of us. Proper
legislation that talks to people like me and people that live on
and work online. That doesn't destroy vital things like
anonymity.
Ah, here it is anonymity. So we need anonymity. But we need to
be able to find out who was being anonymous that
talks to people like me and people that live on and work
online. Talk to me, I know how to help you that doesn't destroy
vital things like anonymity, which not, which may seem like a
big, bad, scary thing, since a lot of people do use it for home
purposes. But it's also the thing that protects activists
like me, it's the thing that protects people that have mental
illness from the stigma that speaking out about it comes with
so that they can find community. It's,
I like this, because I can just say, Oh, I have mental illness.
So you have to be able to do things anonymously, mentally
ill, I'm sorry. It's the Tourette's
thing that helps people that are discovering their own gender
identities and their own sexualities talk with other
people without fear of reprisal, and often violent reprisal. And
the way I read what she's saying is, do we have to be able to
have people be anonymous for you know, for activists like me for
social justice warriors like me to be out there defending
against vog. However, if you do something bad, then we're gonna
have to know who you are.
So making sure that people who live and work online and
understand these nuances are involved with every step of this
is crucial. Otherwise, we'll see more embarrassing statements
about series of tubes and governmental bodies. Oh, hello
many years ago was that low 1980
Call they want this stupid Senator back.
We need people to actually enforce their own terms of
service and shut down bad actors, bad faith websites.
There are numerous places that host a non consensual
pornography and make a profit off of this. Yeah, look at our
look at our artwork. There are individuals on services like
YouTube that have made a living off of abusing people like Anita
and I who monetized right
where we can you stop and go back about a minute, but not a
minute, but like that took 15 seconds. Yeah, I don't want that
term. I've heard that term went right by magic forgot
her service and shut down bad actors bad faith websites. There
are numerous
websites bad faith websites and podcasts, essays, bad,
non consensual pornography and make a profit off of this. There
are individuals on services like YouTube that have made a living
off of abusing people like Anita and I who monetized this, who
see the mobs who aren't anonymous who raised that funds
this way to continue attacking stalking and harassing us
because it's a cottage industry at this point. And all of these
things need to be taken into account and might be difficult
to understand from the outside. So if there's one thing
Okay, okay, you when
I was gonna play a little piece of a trailer of a movie that
just came out that is being abused for this very serious,
I think we should do this as a feature more often. Play some a
horrible person rambling on in the most obnoxious way. And see
you could take the most of
it. Well, you had you there was 26 seconds left and you couldn't
sorry, you when I said do you want to hear the movie? This is
this is great. I might
as well Yeah. Yeah, you might as well. So
this is this woman who has some real shitty disorder. She can't
gain weight. She's like a stick and you've probably seen her and
her face looks. It's a horrible it's a hideous. She's hideous.
But she's, she's sweet girl, and she's, I think she did a TED
Talk and asked man, why this, I'm being vog baby. And she,
she's now she met a filmmaker when she did this TED TEDx talk
in Austin. And this is the movie and this explains extremely
exactly what the problem is. And it's such a sad story when you
see this poor girl the way she looks. You want to be all in on
stopping bad faith websites
documentary on the life of Lizzie Velasquez one
cyberbullied as the world's ugliest woman follows her on a
26 year journey from childhood to motivational speaker to
present an activist taking the discussion of bullying to
Capitol Hill and urging lawmakers to take action the 58
lb Velazquez was born with a syndrome that prevents her from
gaining weight. At the age of 17. Lizzy found a YouTube video
dubbing her the world's ugliest woman and had more than 4
million views.
Pick up a gun in my life. And I sat there and read every single
comment. I don't know why I did it. I just couldn't stop. I
think in a way I was just so desperate to find a nice comment
or find someone who is sticking up for me and I didn't find it.
Struggling with their own identity and issues of fitting
in. Lizzy eventually became a passionate public speaker. I
could
go on for Ever. But the
point I doubt that because I generally speaking, somebody
will stick up for anybody.
I doubt I doubt it to I
of course a comment let somebody in this thing you guys are
cruel. Yeah. Which is what you know, you could come in and say,
and I
guarantee someone Someone put in the comment I doer
and some some asshole would do that to your right. I do.
Absolutely. Both of those.
But the point is, this happened on YouTube. I mean, yeah, you
should get rid of YouTube. I mean, the problem is, our brains
are not set up for what is happening to us. We still have
tail bones. This is not we are not prepared for this type of
interpersonal inter human communication witnessed the face
page that's filled with it's a cesspool. It's a morass of muck.
It's, it's, you know, it's shit, but it's what it is. Get the
hell off. I'm sorry, I'm gonna say get off. Don't read it.
In the course. Zuckerberg was out in Seattle, and then he was
also at the dinner with his wife. Yeah. Chinese who's a
vegan Chinese and I don't want to be disparaging. But she's
obviously not a vegan of the type that eats vegetables. She's
a starchy terian because she's way too big. And witches terian
calm and starchy terian I don't consider themselves healthy
cheese potatoes. Potato well it's more like the Cinnabons if
he asked me but he learned Chinese Mandarin Chinese just so
he could speak to this guy to which he you know guy's not an
idiot so you've probably learned it with intensive you know, he's
just kind of forget one of those guys like Gates who can focus
well he learned the language and he spoke with Xi but the whole
point of him learning Chinese so we can get xi to say yeah, okay
Facebook, you can come into China
and your chi said, Man your bitch better lay off the
Cinnabons getting heavy
just saying I don't know I'm not trying to be critical. All
right, pointing it out. I'm gonna show my move by donate to
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Which there were a lot of well wishers at higher amounts.
Yeah, so there was a number of more everyone was a well wisher
but this is the well wishing core group that I will just read
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I'm gonna I'm gonna visit him on the next leg of the tour. Oh,
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These comments people have but we're not going to read them
obviously. Because there's too much but I'm saving these from
my book. These are great.
Yeah, there's a lot of good comments that were made I have
to say.
Really, really endearing. A lot of them. Let me dive in. Got
some some goodness splashed on me.
Well you do from the comments. Yeah.
People say nice things and nice things about the show and about
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Sounds like a fake name to me.
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I'd rather stick with the guardians of reality any day.
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Oh, hey, hey,
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We have a number of lawyers. Yes, but
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Good to have one in Wyoming. Yep. Matthew clay in
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Incredible
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Before we finish this up, let me tell you about some donations
that were made on the spot at the meetup here in Salt Lake
City again, a great meet up beloved scenery but there was
forget where they came from. They drove from far to this
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kids hate it. They hate Michelle Obama they hate the shit that
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you got bread with no butter the kids and she's lovely she's like
yeah and I'm no longer caught I used to be a lunch lady and I'm
you know I'd make cool stuff I make the chilli and make you
know sloppy Joe's a big pizza of now she's a diet dietary Service
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All right. $60 from Sherry Osborne. She is the rainstick
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Thank you. I appreciate the envelopes that's so much easier.
We have here oh my god with 100 100 And what is this? 12345
Of course, and this is from Brian sir lead Morton and family
Amanda, Arvin and Kayla, nice meeting you. Great. That kid was
great. 15 year old kid. He was like he was just, you know, he's
no agenda written all over him. And he wants some Hillary clips.
We've already played. We'll play we'll play a little montage at
the end again. Amanda will cherish the picture the two of
you took further Brian could you All right, he says the one he
thought I'd blocked him anyway. So we thank you for your
donation and I want to thank everybody who came to all the
meetups. It's really good seeing everyone it's I don't know it
was because it's kind of over now John and me I'm on the way
back now I'm gonna go as fast as I it's gonna take me three days
to get home.
I have to be another meetup on the way back just to make
yourself feel normal.
I'm going to in Albuquerque, I think I'll hook up with Jeffrey
to hygge and his girlfriend Rebecca. Nothing in Moab. Just a
bunch of rocks there. And then after I've done it, I think I'm
going back through Lubbock. I just can't make it. You know,
each each day is like a six hour drive. So and then they'll get
it I'll get in Wednesday and then go straight into prep for
the Thursday show. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying. Do
we have anything else? No. Okay, just on these donations. John.
Beautiful to see all this outpouring of support. And of
course, I'm going to give you some jobs karma. I did want to
say that as we know a large percentage of the people who
come to these meetups are dudes named Ben. And you know, we're
all on the spectrum. We're all kind of messed up and that's why
it works so well together. You know, it's like we are the hero
of the of the autistic. Yeah, what heroes of the spectrum is
true. It's gonna be everyone feels comfortable around the no
agenda family because we don't condemn. We only do that on the
show.
And the show for sure the show we do.
vog vog vog.
But a lot of them have found out about the show through twit and
I,
like you'll find that most of the people that do one of these
meetups again, it's not a lot of them, you know, a few dozen
maybe at the most, they all end up meeting each other and a lot
of them become friends after the fact.
Absolutely. Oh, longtime friendships will come out of
this.
My point being really a friendship club.
Yes. And we should all have friendship rings,
or night rings do the trick.
My I guess my point is or but what I wanted to ask you should
I mean, are you really done for good done? But if it was like If
so if you've got a message saying hey, you know, things got
a little heated. You know, let's Well I had a
I sent a tweet out about you know that. Let's face reality
there. And there's even ones where there's a couple of
naysayers. I mean, like hundreds of people are wishing me well
and saying oh, you know, it's douchey for Leo to get all
worked up about a simple tweet that had nothing to do with him.
Although I could see that it's,
I've always felt your presence on Twitter has been good for our
show. And quite honestly, it makes that show watchable for
me. And I like it and I will miss you. I will miss you.
Yeah, well, I think that it was the show was going in a
direction. And I think the network as a whole is going in
kind of a different direction more of you know, this idea of
The Verge more lifestyle, Apple hail app, a lot of Apple stuff,
a lot of phone stuff, leaded lifestyle stuff, not so much,
you know, really discussing in detail anything that's that's
even a desktop computer was less than that was even mentioned.
Because they you know, there's some, at least the group that's
running the place has a sense that this would be more there'd
be growth in that arena? I personally don't think so. I
don't think so. And I like to talk about you'd like to talk
about, you know, certain kinds of nerdy stuff, and, or trends
or trends or trends like the Internet of Things where they
bring it up as always, like this greatest thing ever is going to
happen. And it's like, not necessarily I do have like I did
my interview with John Sculley which I produced, at least parts
of it. And yeah, that was a that was a great interview on that
show. But we also did it as a call John, John, John, John,
stop, Bureau, you are a figurehead you're an icon in
tech. And I hate said I said tech, but the you there's no
doubt about it. And view are you make people think every day I
meet people who say, you know, for 25 years, I've been reading
Dvorak, and it's not about your prowess or your or your
knowledge. It's, you know, it's what you do. And sometimes you
say funny things, sometimes you view are very good at taking an
alternative view. And I think it will be missed. So the only
thing I personally would like to see if there is a crack in the
door if it's still open, should view feel comfortable and
someone bought someone say hey, you know, should we give this
another shot? Or is that is the format of the show no longer no
longer valuable to you as
I think it's going to move in a direction that where I will be
so irrelevant to what they're talking about? Yeah. That I
don't think there's any opportunity there. Okay, there's
no way that I mean, it's just not going to I don't I the way I
see it, No is the answer to the question you're trying to ask.
Well, that's a sad day.
When I was away it goes yeah, it's
okay. Well, anyway, thank you, everybody for helping John out.
This I'm talking more about the Oh, it's nice. It's nice when
you're when you're recognised when you your job kind of in a
way was to be shit on.
There's that element that was annoying. Yes, yeah. But you
know, I get put I can
take it. It's a very you know, it's very, very difficult to do.
Very difficult to do. And you I salute you, sir. Thank you.
Thank you for your courage. Thank you for your work. I
appreciate your work, man. I respect that. It's really really
good, fabulous stuff that I stuck up enough.
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tell her to would tell her to wear a scarf
now exiting second half
moon tonight
ever I know it's and we don't we have an eclipse as well. Eclipse
Yeah,
Eclipse that starts at six o'clock on the West Coast.
I think it's gonna be a dynamite in Moab Utah. I think that's
going to be one of the best places in the world to watch it.
You're gonna be you're going to be out there where you can see
the stars. Yes, Ignite. Okay, I've got I've got a little I got
two clips I want to get to all right. First of them is a this
is ask Adam kind of what you always say kind of what does
that mean? I'm supposed to because it's not the technical
ask Adam which was the dashcam began with movie clips excellent
Can I play the jingle that's all I wanted yeah
what somebody devoted an awful lot of time to a variety of ask
Adam jingles how
there's so many of them John there's so good. See? Okay.
Well, he know Oh, really? Well. I don't know. We go forgotten
about it. That's
probably the best. That's a good one. Yeah. Okay, so what's wrong
now? I'm going to look at that there we have a new story. I'm
going to ask you as a as a would be as a trained journalist
trainee trainee journalists. Okay. What what you know,
there's a certain bunch of rules. Now this is David Muir.
And guess what is wrong? This is a story on the damaging effects
of faulty wiring and various good okay, so
what what is my question? What is the question is going to be
what?
What would I tell you? I play it first and then I'm going to ask
you after
Oh, that makes it I don't know what to listen for. Okay. Okay.
I can do this. I can do this. I can do this
is absolutely the way to do this one. Because as you listen, what
is it what the question is, will it become a parent or not?
Oh, here we go. Fog.
We're going to turn next tonight to the driver trapped in a
speeding car on a California freeway. The cruise control
locked ABCs Nick was teaming up with KBC tonight with the 911
call. And what came next.
My car swerving all over. Man, I'm so scared.
He's driving it over 70 miles per hour on a busy California
freeway and 29 year old Trevor Robin is in deep trouble.
And I have no idea what to do. Like cruise control will now
turn off
his 15 year old pickup stuck in cruise control little the
Highway Patrol can do this terrifying 911 Call obtained by
Los Angeles station K ABC. I don't want to die. minutes later
impact first Robins vehicle striking the embankment and sand
wall then going airborne overturning and landing in the
roadway injecting him tonight Robin remains in the hospital
with head and spinal injuries. So what do you do if this
happens to you, if your cruise control jams will first try to
shift into neutral. If that fails, you can brake heavily and
as a last resort, you can just shut down the engine. David,
just incredible story. Next thing.
Okay, the question would be, why didn't he just shut down the
engine?
The question is going to actually be what's missing from
this story.
Toyota Prius?
Well, you're close. The, the correct answer is the car was
never named, right? The vehicle was never named what car was as
we like, this is a major Disney you'd come up with this horror
story. And then you can't Don't tell us the name of the car.
Right.
What was the point of it? Well, the point of it was and this is
what you just reiterated, add to some advertisers gonna get bent
out of shape because this old clunky, I believe it to be a
Chevy truck. I don't know for sure he was wreck. But they
would complain, you know, you know, we do a lot of advertising
with ABC. Oh, yeah. Don't you think?
Probably.
Why else would you leave it out? So that's the corruption that we
have we fight on the show. So it was oh, that's why everyone
should be happy about contributing to our to what
we're doing now.
Well, can I can I hook in with a little car news? Yeah, sure.
Okay. This was I guess it was a big car show. Maybe this was the
show that Volkswagen was supposed to present something at
and they want all that could be. And now we've already witnessed.
Well, it wasn't all that hard of a prediction. But we knew that
once the the GPS trackers came out, and that the insurance
companies would first give you a cheaper rate if you let the
insurance company track you. And it's in the tracking through the
ODB two port is not just your speed. It's all it's all inputs,
it's all kinds of things are tracking. And eventually you
will not be able to get any kind of insurance without this type
of device installed. And now we have a new device
developers for CSA their active wellness seat is the world's
first health monitoring car seat. Its biometric sensing
system detects if the driver has a drop in energy levels or is
under stress and responds with on the move therapy
the act of wellness seed as for CS vision on the next level of
personal has come for. So what we basically do is to monitor
respiration rate and heart rate and the seat and we derive
stress and energy level from that. And having this this kind
of furnace being information we now can offer close to comfort
system. So in case you are stressed, you get a relaxing
relaxation massage.
I love how they're selling this if we're going to track exactly
how you're feeling. And if you're feeling stressed, we'll
give you a nice massage.
In case you have low energy level, you get a very activation
energising massage they should
just like like Pulp Fiction usually get Jama you know some
amphetamines into your chest. Oh, okay, I'm not drowsy
anymore. I
leaped over five years in operation. The seat analyses the
occupants heart rhythms and breathing patterns. This data is
used to calculate their mental and physical state with a
message appearing on a screen in the cabin offering treatment. If
a user accepts the recommendation, they will
receive a massage warming or cooling sensation through the
seats ventilation system to either relax or energise them.
God I'm driving I'm feeling horny, dude. Like, yeah. Really
good. Like, yeah, just like that. That's really nice. This
is going to be this is going to be used to against you. Oh,
of course, this could be used against you. The point is,
it's a beauty. It's a beauty. Hey, I got one. One last thing
in the in the big arena. Now. The timing of this. This is a
great little no agenda. Diddy people love this stuff. So we've
been tracking the Prime Minister, Prime Minister of
Japan, our baby was president or prime minister, president, prime
minister, our base Prime Minister,
the Prime Minister President whatever is opposed to the
highest Adolphus let me look him up.
Yeah. Boss, dude. Boss, dude. Okay, by the way. So he changes
the Constitution. He's like, we should be able to defend we need
to be able to Prime Minister primary I thought sorry. We need
to be able to defend ourselves in conjunction with the United
States or with Australia. Of course we know why he did this
because this is a big sales job for the arms industry. Yes,
certainly from the United States or give money Yes, suckers. Now,
when you have that setup, so the laws have changed. So now we can
sell some arms to to Japan we can sell them you know, and we
can get all riled up and all crazy. What do we need in order
to get the sales cycle rolling? This is an Ask giants is an
incident? Or how about the threat of an incident that could
work.
Kim Jong Hoon rattles his nuclear Sabre at America, the
head of his Atomic Energy programme declaring the regime's
ready to use its nuclear weapons anytime ready. The US and others
pursue their quote reckless hostile policy toward North
Korea. Kim is also declaring his nuclear programme is at full
speed. The regime says its main nuclear complex that young
beyond which produces material for nuclear weapons is operating
normally. A US official tells CNN they have no reason to doubt
the claim and analysts take the threat seriously.
If you look here, the snow melt in this area. snow melts again
on the reactor.
And this is one of these little dip shitty consultants that CNN
brings in. You know, you've never seen her before. She's
drawing on the smart board showing where the so called
nuclear reactors are because the snow is melting. Are you kidding
me?
This would indicate that the reactor is functioning it's
giving off heat causing that snow melts. Also here in August
you can see tracks leading into the reactor area that again
shows that there's significant activity going on at the site's
said to be as obsessed with developing nuclear weapons as
his father and grandfather were obsessed
remember his grandfather Kim Il Sung, the founder of the country
saw the United States bring Imperial Japan down to its
knees, but two nuclear weapons so this is a regime that's been
interested in nuclear weaponry for decades.
Kim's not stopping there. His regime announcing it's preparing
to launch a satellite into orbit for scientific purposes. The
United Nations has warned North Korea to call off the rocket
launch
Satellite Launch Vehicle similar to this one pictured here could
be used by North Korea to develop an intercontinental
ballistic missile that's capable of reaching the United States
delivering a nuclear warhead.
The North Koreans aren't there yet. weapons experts say they
haven't tested reentry on those missiles and they could break
apart. Still these moves bring a warning tonight from Washington
demanding that Kim stop his provocations. US officials
taking no chances is that making sure Kim knows what kind of
missile defences America has at the ready.
Ground based interceptors to allow Aska surface combatants to
the west horrific a sad battery on Guam and other radar in Japan
in order to be ready and vigilant for anything that may
or may not do.
Hello, Japan, our sales cases on the way
I got a note from Aichi Kanagawa, who has been tracking
this stuff going on and it discussed that last incident the
phoney baloney thing with speakers on one side and the
some poor dead guy stepped on a mine says here's what I could
find from Japanese media. Was you Ashish and ping newly set
September 3 as victory over Japan Day as part of his effort
to show that he is in charge of the Communist Party. He has been
trying to eradicate Jang Gemma's influence in the name of
corruption, the corruption elimination campaign all major
Western nations heads of states, the QAT, declined the
invitation. Remember the invitation? Nobody went to this
party? Yes. All they all declined except the South
Koreans. And Kim Jong Un was not invited here. This would look as
though South Korea's replacing the North is China's ally So Kim
has China not to invite her she hates Kim so he ignored so she
so he ignored the request, Kim ordered his men to orchestrate
national emergencies for the President Park would be forced
to stay. Got North Korea planted landmines in the DMZ injuring to
South Korea and South responded with propaganda broadcasting.
North fired a warning shot the south fired back. She's Jinping
got pissed off and stopped all the trains in North Korea. North
Korea was forced to negotiate and eventually apologise. This
is like this. Whatever this story is that's going on over
there. We have no clue workability they've been doing
these reports in the American media. It's all bull crap.
But I have one last clip which I'd like to leave it with our
audience because I don't know what it means. What do you want
to do that after I do this one clip one important piece of news
that has not been salutely What's not being discussed
whatsoever. In fact, you may even be stunned when you hear
this clip.
I'm ready. What is that you're
always talking about the choke point over there in Asia. We're
always trying to set things up so they you can't get through
because it is a choke point is horrible. The Straits of
Malacca.
Oh, yes. Yeah. Where we have a whole bunch of ships sailing
around.
Yeah, that dude is if you look at the map, it's a horrible like
a narrow is apparently where all the shipping to half the
shipping traffic in the world has to go through. That's right.
That's right. Play Croc canal.
While China is already building a new rail network in Thailand.
Now as part of its one belt. One Road initiative is looking at an
ambitious plan to dig a canal from one side of the country to
the other, the croc canal would cut 1200 kilometres of the
existing sea route. Our Thailand correspondent Martin Lowe has
this report.
This is the craft brewery River. It already cuts halfway across
the crime isthmus in southern Thailand, extending it could
open up a waterway from one side of the country to the other. One
look at a map and it's easy to see why this is something that's
been talked about for 300 years. Building a canal across
Thailand's narrow peninsula would open up a shipping route
from the Indian Ocean in the west to the Pacific in the east.
It would save up to three days sailing on the route around
Malaysia and avoid the notorious Straits of Malacca, which are
overcrowded and plagued by pirates 16 million barrels of
oil a day passed through the Malacca Straits including 80% of
China's supply China wants to secure alternative and the Crown
canal also corresponds with its One Belt One Road initiative to
improve trade routes across Asia and the world you
know these Chinese man they are unstoppable they've got the the
pent up Hanuman around the canal there in Nicaragua, which is
going to compete with the Panama Canal canal that build in this
country was also known as the Thai canal I believe. Those guys
they're not messing around.
No, they're not sitting on their hands.
You have a part two to this.
Yeah. If you want to play this a little more detail.
The benefit is enormous. crahan now happens to be at the choke
point
who's this?
Was the some at some Asian analyst who said the word he
used was a choke point,
talk point talk point. vog choke point,
one of the most important choke points in the world, which is
the Straits of Malacca,
and nothing funnier than laughing about someone's accent.
And the gutter now is going to be an very important alternative
to the congested streets of Malacca.
So far 13 different routes across the Kra isthmus have been
suggested, the most expensive, costing 28 billion US dollars.
China has taken the lead in studying proposals to fund and
construct the canal. This would be an engineering project on a
massive scale. The most ambitious of the plans is for a
canal 30 metres deep and half a kilometre wide, capable of
accommodating ocean going ships and tankers, just building the
canal would take 10 years Nice. Within Thailand, there's some
concern, that canal could isolate the most southerly
provinces
who don't yet know much about the canal. So they cannot see
the national benefits. But they worry about Thailand being
divided into two parts.
Supporters say tolls ship facilities and development along
the canals banks would bring big financial rewards repaying the
investment in 30 years,
called the Volcker rule that there would be a major economic
benefit now. Right off. Adam curry Shut up. Shut up, man. All
right. That's the sign that I'm getting tired.
Yes, you're getting tired and rapid. I just had to get that
story out of the way because you're not going to hear that
story on any network that I can find.
Absolutely not. And I will save my big question for Thursday.
Oh, it saveable unsavable unsavable it's good. It'll be
good. I promise you it'd be good. Okay, okay, good. No
worries, man. No worries. All right, everybody. Thank you very
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