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Why do you want to turn down?
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. It's

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Thursday, July 23 2015. time
once again for your Gitmo nation

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media assassination Episode
Seven.

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This is no agenda.

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Jade Helm 15 plus eight and
counting broadcasting live from

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the capital the drone star
stakes in the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry,

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and for brothers Silicon Valley
where I'm wondering what Jane

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Jane Hill is that her name? I
don't know. I'm John C. Dvorak

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scale. I'm keeping track man I'm
keeping track Jade Helm started

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on July 15. The big mega poll in
the MiG a military exercise.

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Yeah, my wife brought this up.
No, she says what is this Jade

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Helm crap. Why is everybody all
upset about

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all jacked up on the Jade Helm
man? I said

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it's nothing. It's just some
bullcrap it was anything

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important. They wouldn't have
told us about it.

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Well, that's true. And well,
along those lines. I went to

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dinner with the former of the ex
banker from New York.

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He said yeah, get a little
update. First I

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have to tell you he's he's still
he's all in on Greece actually

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exiting the Eurozone.

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And he still does he still
promising a big run up in the

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euro. Yes. Now collapse down to
what but

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I didn't bring that one up for
them. But boy was funny. Is you

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know to he's the guy that is
always telling me you know,

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always joking about my
conspiracy theories and that

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conspiracy show you

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this is typical, by the way
everybody does. Oh, yeah.

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And all of a sudden he's like,
but you know, Seattle is about

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to get a whole bunch of
earthquakes. Do you know about

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the Ring of Fire? I'm like, holy
crap. People like you laughed at

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me seven years ago. They're
talking about the Ring of Fire.

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And the fire ring of fire just
the but it's just that it's just

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that it's a tectonic plates.
It's just not anything

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conspiratorial. It's a fact. Oh,
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know. I know. But it was funny
that he just came out like you

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know

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well, this is something going
around up there. Mimi brought

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this up too.

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Do you guys ever do you ever do
you guys ever like say hey I

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love you honey or anything? Is
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Ella time Hey,

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hey you hear by the Ring of
Fire? No, she

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didn't talk about the Ring of
Fire she talked about the bigger

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earthquake the bigger what
happens if it does? Yeah. Okay,

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she better get a ham radio just
talking about oh would have you

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know this is when you're when a
slow news day. What would happen

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if all hell broke loose out of
the blue in our area? Of course.

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And you know there'd be these
tsunamis and Seattle would be

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devastating because they don't
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Portland flattened.

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I love this happens once every
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Ring of Fire. Everybody bring a
fire? Well, there was a new

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report, the new NASA research. I
don't think it was peer reviewed

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or anything but they released
it. And that began. Yeah, that

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began a number of interesting
little news items. We haven't

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started the show off with this
kind of stuff in Oh, I don't

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know at least three Shows. So
kind of start off.

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Are you going back into global
warming? Yeah.

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And ominous forecast. But more
scenes like this surging

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floodwaters and rising in the
future that could be major

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flooding along every coast. So
says a new study that warns the

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world's seas are rising. Demand
for rod has that part of the

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story.

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Ever warming Oceans Melting
polar ice could raise sea levels

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15 feet in the next 50 to 100
years. NASA's former climate

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chief now says five times higher
than previous predictions. Well

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this is the biggest threat that
the planet faces. James Hansen

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co authored the new journal
article raising that alarming

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scenario

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if we get sea level rise of
several meters all coastal

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cities become dysfunctional note
He's the former the head of NASA

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climate change this is

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that guy it's not that he
mentioned his name James Hansen

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does that name ring a bell? He
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one climate warmest he's gonna
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did they mentioned his name
Michelle here he is again that's

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why they should preface it Oh
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know it's former NASA that adds
credibility to it and they had

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they keep bringing back polar
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stopped doing that because they
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Yeah. Now here appears Democracy
Now sums it up a little quicker.

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Same bullcrap stories play at
the end bore global warming. Oh,

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I got it. Okay.

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Former NASA scientists As James
Hansen, who first raised

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concerns about climate change in
the 80s, has warned that sea

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levels could rise as much as 10
feet before the end of the

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century and less greenhouse gas
emissions are drastically the

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rise would make cities such as
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uninhabitable This comes as new
data shows that this past June

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was the hottest on record
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which was set last year

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this Okay, listen to the EURO
NEWS propaganda. They don't even

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I don't even think they
mentioned the report. They just

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so all in like, whatever. We'll
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piece on it

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this June 2015 was the hottest
June Since temperature records

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began in 1880. Experts are
saying governments should treat

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climate change as seriously as
threats national security or

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public health. The no agency
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year has broken heat records
last year was already the

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hottest yet. Last month in
Pakistan morgues in Karachi

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population 20 million and
hospitals were overwhelmed.

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Officially, more than 1150
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Now listen to this little
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44 degrees Celsius coincided
with power cuts and the Muslim

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holy month of Ramadan, when
faithful abstain from eating or

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drinking by day.

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Hello, hello. Hello. If you
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it's 110 degrees. Yeah, you
might succumb. Yeah. Can we

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change this Ramadan to the
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Oh, okay. Now let me I'm going
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the one if you notice there was
the Journal of some crazy

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journal. It wasn't just any old
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scientist who has nothing else
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That is exactly the title. Your
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just said the journal they would
like what journal The Wall

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Street Journal, the journalists
who they don't know. Okay, I'm

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going to do the test to just
check it out. Let me I'm going

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to stand up and look out the
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the bay which is the butt fence
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is hooked to the Pacific Ocean,
although I know it takes a you

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know, like 400 days for a foot
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up everywhere. But here we go.
Let me get here. I'm gonna

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go low standing up now. Yeah,
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are still there no difference in
title. There's the same

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former flooding. Former
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Dvorak says, climate change is
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No rising tides is not
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not that is not the right
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In India in May, the 47 degree
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people which I think is low 47
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killed 10,000 people.

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in Andhra Pradesh yet, and
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international team wrote in the
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levels rose between six and 13
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around a minute.

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How come I don't have beachfront
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underwater. Where is it? Where's
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slightly higher than today's in
prehistoric ice Thor's Oh, I'm

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sorry? That that's 30 feet in
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higher than today. So I guess
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bet I better get the aero bed
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That study warned of a possible
repeat. Even if governments cut

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greenhouse gas emissions, a top
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and Hoover has said only the

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right that's a good name. Well,
I'm gonna name again. Ah,

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Barbara schellnhuber was

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named rosette Johanna crfm
Sheldon Hoover has Hans

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Joachim Shallan. Homer. Pleasure
to make your acquaintance

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said only the induced implosion
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chance to avoid possible
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I like this the induced
implosion of the carbon economy

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this is nice implosion of the
carbon economy this is a this

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well that's a gem that's
something that we got to be on

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the lookout for and a term that
may come back to haunt us Yeah,

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write that one down

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the proverbial snowball's chance
in hell. Perhaps he said in the

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end it's a moral decision. Pope
Francis to with Casa sistema

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when the Pope said recently our
house is going to ruin and that

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harms everyone, especially the
poorest. Emil I don't mind is

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therefore an appeal for
responsibility based on the task

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that God gave man in creation do
I lead said oh man no Neela

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Korea to that he keeps the gun
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journeyman

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post man that Latin is boring to
listen to, isn't it?

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High level activists like
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the costs of the coming economic

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oh wait, what's a high level
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objective is an activist, not
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high level activists like
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the costs of the coming economic
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fuels to be paid by the world's
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poorest contribute maybe 1% of
emissions. It's the richest, he

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said, who need to change their
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Very nice. Yeah, change your
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it's just the same oh, let's
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out of balance. The whole world
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living in mud huts, and some
instance central says everyone

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has to have the has to have a
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that's definite an iPhone in
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the right cell phones come first
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they can live us a decent shell.
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kale, we have to any kale, we
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course, because we don't live in
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And then there's this conference
right now of Evangelicals about

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priests and parishioners, and
whatever. Guys with floppy

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pointy hats, print trade shows,
in France, France, and they got

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a special red dash alpha message
in two parts from none other

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than the Terminator.

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Now, I've stopped, of course, in
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as you know, but let me tell you
something. Climate change is not

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science fiction. This is a
battle in the real world is

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impacting us right now. This is
bigger than any movie. This is

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the challenge of our time. And
it is our responsibility to

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leave this world a better place
than we found it. But right now,

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we are failing future
generations. So I challenge you

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to go home after this meeting is
over after this conference is

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over. To your congregations, to
churches, to mosques to temples

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in the follow us and inspire
them to fight for clean energy

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future. We must do everything
that we can to communicate

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better, and to preach and
inspire people to join our

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crusade.

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Climate change is real. It's
real. It's real. It's real. Join

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the

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crusade. Nice. Wow. Yeah. So
ratcheting it up? It's almost

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throwaway at this point. Yeah.
Hey, we got some math to be

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block. We need to get on the
shelf that's

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got a bunch of climate change
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That's just getting stale. Yo.
We gotta we gotta air that.

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I put in the sea blog. We got to
be blocked guy. No

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problem. Good. Good work. Good
show everybody. Indeed. All

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right. Well, there you have it.
Yesterday, I was driving to San

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By the way, I still know that
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this show that cringe when we do
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in and they can't, we can't
break them out of it. And

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meanwhile, there's actual
scientists, people have actually

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like Schwarzenegger who has
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American flag and the flag of
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California. Like he's still the
governor of the Gaminator. He's

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still sitting there we can
imagine the guy you walk into

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his home for a meeting about a
movie and you get with these

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flags with the eagle the gold
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the flagpole. It's a little
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he signs his movie contracts
with 30 pens.

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Just the outright Robo Robo pen.

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The pen because you give one
huge sign one letter and you

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give it to somebody signed up.
They give it to somebody else.

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Oh, right. Yes. Everyone can
witness it. Yeah. Nice. So I'm

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driving to San Antonio.
Yesterday, I explained the jokes

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now I get it. I'm driving to San
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to San Antonio yesterday. And
ice and I'm like see something

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that I thought

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he wanted to say something now?
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please. I'm gonna say it right
now. And this was my first

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spotting of a drone in the sky.
Oh, cool. Pro. My word is this

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thing was out. It was fast.
Because I saw this like, this

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thing flying over i 35. And

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was it a big to give us an idea
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It's very hard to tell from the
ground, which is, you know, one

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of the problems is when in fact,
it looked a lot like a like a

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small commuter jet or regional
jet. It was that big. It seemed

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that big. I know it Can't have
been that big. But once I saw

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the shape of it and I saw the
tail tail, the landing gear kind

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of flopped out where they have
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the landing gear. Oh yeah and
then then then it really is like

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a predator or something one of
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it wasn't it was a rebirth. It
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the on the head. Okay, but at
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that's a remote control airplane
going, why they don't fly that

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over the highway. And then I
thought Wait, it is a remote

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controlled airplane only it's a
drone. And it was booking and it

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made a curve that must have been
five G's. And then flew back

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over. Yeah. Just flying it over.
I 35

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it fallen? Yeah. I did carry
this. Thought did cross my mind.

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Ronnie, why did why don't you
take him out? And the thought

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crossed my mind briefly to take
him out

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briefly.

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Let him go. Please tell me about
it on the show. But she talks

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about on the show. Yeah.

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That I'm talking about on the
show. And I wanted to tell

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people, you know, I get a lot of
emails. This is important to me.

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You're soliciting email?

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No, I'm not soliciting. You
know, people like why are you

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sniffing on the show? Yeah, and,
you know, because the first

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thing that for some reason
people always say, oh, you

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should stop doing coke on the
show. It's like, Yeah, really?

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This thing Adam on coke could be
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Could you imagine we could try
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Oh, God, it'd be the worst show.

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Running production right now.

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No, but I wanted to say that
this is of course it's as my

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nasal problems started with the
mold. But then it became a tick

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that I'm trying to I'm trying to
get rid of and

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now you're just sniffing
randomly? Yeah, I haven't

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noticed it. It's funny somebody
part

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of the Tourette's and it's
really, really fruit bugs me? It

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fruit bugs because when I'm
trying to here's the how the

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tech works. I've tried to sniff
without cutting through the

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noise gate. It's like why am I
doing this? Insane Tom and it's

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only on the show. It's not in
real life when I'm walking

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around you picked up

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salad that's interesting. Well,
yes. Yeah, that sounds like some

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Turetsky thing.

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Yeah, I know what my Tourette's
is. I know what it is. So that's

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why I went to San Antonio I'm
working when the see might

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psychotherapist well, and to get
my MK Ultra programming of

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course.

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That could be one surprise me.
Oh, I'm working as you've been

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going on about this. I had to go
get thick tissues. Let's do a

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little sniff snort moment. Good.
That's broadcast

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I am a Connecticut School of
broadcasting alum. That my

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friends is broadcasting right
there.

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Show them how it's done.

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So Cameron over in the Gitmo
nations of UK which we've always

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seen as our beta test for the
the complete and total police

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state that face it UK is way
ahead of us. He finally came out

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with well they still haven't
come out with the actual

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extremism legislation that I've
been tracking which is going to

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help us understand how violating
certain British values would be

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deemed as extremist views and
therefore you can be penalized

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by law so he did a speech at I
think some school somewhere

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and we should put a list
together of these things like

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you know, British, you know
basis for all just like kicking

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a beggar. Well, I don't think
they

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would not I don't think that
would be a problem, though. It's

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actually much much worse than
that John? Much much worse, but

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and I hope we do not Well,
eventually we'll get everything

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they have and get mo east over
here and get more proper and we

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are in big trouble. We are let
me say me specifically. Okay.

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The because conspiracy
theorists, if you got conspiracy

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theories, you are pretty much a
terrorist. Okay, you laugh, my

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friend. But it ain't all that
funny.

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But you don't have to support
violence to subscribe to certain

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intolerant ideas, which creates
a climate in which extremists

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can flourish. ideas which are
hostile to basic liberal values.

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What could those ideas be
hostile to basic liberal values?

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What kind of

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high being against gay marriage

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such as democracy freedom,
sexual equality, ideas which

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actively promote discrimination,
sectarianism and segregation?

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Ideas like those of the two
despicable far right, which

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privilege one identity to the
detriment of the rights and

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freedoms of others. And I did

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that. Just keep that in the back
of your mind. Just keep that in

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the back of your mind. But now
listen to what

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the actual issue is, is just an
attack on Fairbridge.

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Oh, that's what he meant by the
far right, of course. But it

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gets worse also based

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on conspiracy, that Jews
exercise malevolent power, or

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that Western powers in concert
with Israel are deliberately

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humiliating Muslims because they
aim to destroy Islam. In this

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warped worldview, such
conclusions are reached that 911

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was actually inspired by masa to
promote the invasion of

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Afghanistan,

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we are going to be locked up.

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Why never heard that one

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gotta be locked up. Now,

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all the British security
services knew about seven seven,

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then didn't do anything about it
because they wanted to provoke

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an anti Muslim backlash.

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I don't know about they wanted
to promote the anti Muslim

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backlash. But there was a drill
on the same day, which was set

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up. I'm sorry.

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Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah,
but this exercise,

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yes. And which when active or
whatever you want to call it so

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that is now now you're a
terrorist. If you if you talk

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about such I can't talk about
it.

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And like so many ideologies that
have existed before where the

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fascist or

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like this guy was the most anti
British they have ever heard.

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Communist, he's the one who
should be in jail. Good luck

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with that, a fascist or
communist?

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Many people, especially young
people, are being drawn into it.

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Yes. Now, of course, we need to,
we need some solutions for this

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gone into what what did he say
drawn into being a terrorist by

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propagating

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conspiracy theories drawn into
the you, Kip? Well,

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that comes in a moment, you're,
you're one clip ahead of me,

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because that, of course, is the
kicker. But I still need to wind

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you up with what he wants to do
with internet. You couldn't you

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can guess what it is obviously,
you know,

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internet companies to go further
in helping us identify potential

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terrorists online, do it
yourself. commercial models are

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built around monitoring
platforms for personal data,

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packaging up and sending it on
to third parties. And when it

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comes to doing what's right for
their businesses, they're happy

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to engineer technologies that
track our likes and dislikes.

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But when a lot of Facebook
looking at you comes to doing

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what's right in the fight
against terrorism, too, we too

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often hear that it's all too
difficult. Well, I'm sorry, I

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just don't buy that. They've
shown the internet companies

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have shown the vital work
they're doing in clamping down

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on Child Abuse images that they
can step up with as a moral

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imperative to act they've done
brilliant work brilliant, it's

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now time for them to do the same
to protect their users from the

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scourge of radicalization
scourge.

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A scourge of radicalization is
well there you go. That is just

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the start. And you will hear
this meme being propagated I

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think everywhere Hey, if you can
get rid of kid kiddie porn, why

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can't you get rid of extremism?

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Yeah, that's kind of what
Feinstein was driving out with

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that it hearing that we put it
posted on the show and that guy

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it was a Comey wouldn't wouldn't
buy into what she was talking

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about. He was thinking well you
know we need this is not about

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really doing what they say this
is about just tracking people

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for the purposes of long term
black man that

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is exactly what Cameron said. He
said these companies are great

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at tracking your likes your
dislikes. That's the way I heard

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it. They're really good at that
we need to engage that skill,

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that talent

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and so they can track track you
and a vote for you, Kip. Are you

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going to vote for the
conservative All right

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here we go vote for here it is
here is the clip you've been

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wanting to hear

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and then something else we need
to do. We need to put out of

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action the key extremist
influences

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on put out of action. What does
that mean put out of action?

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Does that mean shoot them dig a
shallow grave? That's what I

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that's what I thought put out of
action. Is there a way I didn't

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look that up? Let's see. Put it
no way you don't have to look it

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up. I want to see if there's a
definition.

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Definition put

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out of action. Well, there is
definition of put out of action.

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You know, I got it English
definition dictionary. Let's see

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if that includes killing. Well,
let's hope so. The state or

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process of doing that. put out
of action. Mm

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hmm. Sounds like he's
threatening to me. This is

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another discussion we throw
well,

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he is threatening and you're
about to hear who is threatening

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and there's something else we
need to do. We need to put out

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of action. The key extremist
influences, the key extremist

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influences influences are
careful to operate just inside

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the law jetlag so

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that means they're being lawful.
Yeah. So we need to kill let's

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just try and They put out about
we need to kill the key

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extremist influences which I
guess are going to be defined in

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the next 15 seconds who are
operating just inside the law so

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that means if you're operating
just inside the law which would

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be I don't know lawful lawful
lawful then we need to kill them

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but who clearly detest British
society and everything we stand

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for these people aren't just
extremists they are also

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despicable far right routes to

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we need to kill Nigel Farage as
what he said what he's saying

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there are also far despicable
far

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right groups to and what links
them all is their aim to groom

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young people and brainwash their
mind

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unlike what you're doing, Mr.
Cameron that is that is some

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very dangerous talking

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that wasn't so or that give you
a clip of the day really don't

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you think that was kind of a it
was kind of almost Clip of the

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Day give me almost Clip of the
Day

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no that's we that's called
something else. Oh, I forgot

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called the borderline clip or
the

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borderline Clip of the Day

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borderline Clip of the Day. It's
that is so dangerous what this

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man is saying. Gustin what is
what is interesting a took me

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because I got the transcript.
But it took me 15 minutes to

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find the full speech the BBC had
cut it down and did not include

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any of that of course. And that
was that was copied by Guardian

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by independent everyone was
using that same clip of the full

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clip was hard to find it wasn't
even on any government website.

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Yet it Youtube, Youtube,
Youtube, of course. YouTube of

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course, that's where you find
all the good style. Exactly.

456
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:51,840
Now, you talked about Feinstein
knuckle up she was on what was

457
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,650
she on? I think state of the
nation or or state of the earth.

458
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,720
What does it state state the
facts.

459
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,090
Face the Nation face the press
base to pre Meet the Press to

460
00:27:03,090 --> 00:27:06,960
Face The Nation. And it was
about the Meet the nation and

461
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,660
face the press. I think that's
that's what it is. Again for

462
00:27:09,660 --> 00:27:10,110
shows.

463
00:27:10,199 --> 00:27:14,129
She was talking about the
Chattanooga shooting, which by

464
00:27:14,129 --> 00:27:17,069
the FBI is on admission. They do
not know if he was radicalized.

465
00:27:17,789 --> 00:27:19,799
They just don't have that
information yet. It was also

466
00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:24,629
hard to get all the information
from him because he's dead. But

467
00:27:24,629 --> 00:27:30,179
she turned it right into some
cyber stuff. Where she Hello.

468
00:27:31,709 --> 00:27:36,269
Oh, what is happening here? I'm
sorry, here we go.

469
00:27:36,690 --> 00:27:40,080
On Thursday, Mohammed Youssef
Abdulazeez went on a shooting

470
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,370
spree at a marine facility in
Chattanooga, killing five. Do we

471
00:27:44,370 --> 00:27:47,400
have any idea any intelligence
about what radicalised

472
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,270
Abdulaziz?

473
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,790
Well, not at the present time,
but

474
00:27:50,790 --> 00:27:53,160
just so you he just said right
there? Do we have any idea what

475
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,010
radicalise the guy with even
though the FBI, by their own

476
00:27:56,010 --> 00:27:58,290
admission says they don't know
if he was radicalized? And

477
00:27:58,290 --> 00:28:00,930
Feinstein doesn't say? Well,
let's hear what she says.

478
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,420
Although that's being
investigated, as you know, a

479
00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:07,950
team has been sent to Jordan to
explore that further. But John,

480
00:28:07,950 --> 00:28:12,630
in my view, based on what I
know, so far, this is a classic

481
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,000
lone wolf, terrorist attack.

482
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,200
Classic John is a classic, where
they don't actually know if the

483
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,060
guy was radicalized from the get
go. It's not

484
00:28:22,050 --> 00:28:24,960
like classic lamb murder. For
all we know, where do you think

485
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,110
she's

486
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:27,090
gonna take it where she's going
to take this, but she's not

487
00:28:27,090 --> 00:28:27,540
going to take

488
00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:28,890
it the murder next year,

489
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,030
2014 ISIL or dash had sake, say
it in the area.

490
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,650
They always keep trying to slip
the dash. And I don't know why.

491
00:28:37,650 --> 00:28:38,580
But it's not working.

492
00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:45,630
I put out a call for people to
kill military people, police

493
00:28:45,630 --> 00:28:50,070
officers, government officials,
and do so on their own not wait

494
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:54,750
for direction. It could well be
that this is that case. Here's

495
00:28:54,750 --> 00:28:58,080
somebody who had guns who knew
how to use them.

496
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,220
Let me see. Let me see if I tick
all the boxes. Do I have guns?

497
00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:05,070
Yes. Do I know how to use them?
May have

498
00:29:05,070 --> 00:29:08,280
been agreed by one thing or
another. But this is all

499
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,600
changing. And here. Here's how
it's changing. Okay. It is now

500
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,950
possible for people if they're
going to talk from Syria to the

501
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:21,630
United States or anywhere else
to get on an encrypted app.

502
00:29:23,130 --> 00:29:28,200
encrypted by the government with
a court order. Oh, my find me

503
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,990
and this is extraordinarily
dangerous.

504
00:29:31,260 --> 00:29:33,570
Is this extraordinarily
dangerous? Okay,

505
00:29:33,570 --> 00:29:36,000
now I'm, I'm the guy doing the
interviewing here. And I'm

506
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,890
saying I first what would be the
first thing I'd ask her? i Oh,

507
00:29:40,890 --> 00:29:43,050
you don't know. No, I don't
know. Because really, he doesn't

508
00:29:43,050 --> 00:29:45,960
either. Yeah. And the thing you
say, Well, that's all well and

509
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,200
good. But how would it be having
this? Say maybe we didn't even

510
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,740
have any encryption? How would
that have changed anything? In

511
00:29:52,740 --> 00:29:53,520
this case?

512
00:29:53,550 --> 00:29:56,970
This kind of comes to fruition
in the rest of the interview

513
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,690
done by the

514
00:29:57,690 --> 00:30:01,890
government with a court order
And this is extraordinarily

515
00:30:01,950 --> 00:30:03,120
dangerous straordinario

516
00:30:03,150 --> 00:30:05,790
Is this the new state of
affairs, which is to say there's

517
00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:08,730
no way he could have been caught
by some kind of a screen

518
00:30:08,730 --> 00:30:12,180
intelligence couldn't have
caught him. So is this just what

519
00:30:12,180 --> 00:30:13,950
life is going to be life? And I
think

520
00:30:13,950 --> 00:30:19,620
to a great extent it is. This
concerns me very greatly. I had

521
00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:22,860
less visual to me that Chief
counsel's of the internet

522
00:30:22,860 --> 00:30:28,200
companies pointed this out. Ask
for help. There is also

523
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:29,670
Hi, I'm Dianne Feinstein, can

524
00:30:29,670 --> 00:30:32,850
you help on the internet? A
stack of documents?

525
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,390
She asked him for help or they
ask her for help.

526
00:30:36,420 --> 00:30:38,670
She said she asked them for
help. Okay, that's what she

527
00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:41,250
said. But there's also
apparently a stack of documents

528
00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:44,820
on the internet. Oh, really,
it's probably like a HyperCard

529
00:30:44,820 --> 00:30:45,600
stack or something a

530
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,290
stack

531
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,940
of documents stack. It's not a
stack. It's a stack of documents

532
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,550
that tell you how to make a bomb
that goes through a magnetometer

533
00:30:56,610 --> 00:31:00,630
where to sit on the plane to
blow it up suggest some people

534
00:31:00,630 --> 00:31:04,500
to kill and is extraordinarily
dangerous.

535
00:31:05,670 --> 00:31:07,890
I've asked I don't think the
stack by itself is

536
00:31:07,890 --> 00:31:09,330
extraordinarily dangerous

537
00:31:09,330 --> 00:31:12,960
internet companies to take that
off they will not do it unless

538
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,550
they are mandated to do it by
law. So you have a pre

539
00:31:17,550 --> 00:31:23,850
determined kind of propaganda
effort that with a too few

540
00:31:23,850 --> 00:31:25,620
clicks somebody cuz

541
00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:30,780
you few clicks, clicks now she
said too few clicks with too few

542
00:31:30,780 --> 00:31:32,790
years ago, I like this. I like
that.

543
00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:39,330
I've asked the internet
companies to take that off, they

544
00:31:39,330 --> 00:31:43,770
will not do it unless they are
mandated to do it by law. So you

545
00:31:43,770 --> 00:31:50,940
have a pre determined kind of
propaganda effort that with a

546
00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:55,890
too few clicks, somebody can get
to and it's very sophisticated.

547
00:31:56,490 --> 00:32:01,740
There's the sort of seduction
all about where they do if they

548
00:32:01,740 --> 00:32:06,870
want to come come to Syria and
train if not what they should do

549
00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:07,830
in this country.

550
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,630
Nice and her head is gone. I
don't buy it. This what is it?

551
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:13,440
What don't you buy,

552
00:32:13,530 --> 00:32:16,350
I don't buy any of it. I think
she's full of crap. If I'm an

553
00:32:16,350 --> 00:32:18,780
internet company, whatever that
means. But let's say I'm an

554
00:32:18,780 --> 00:32:21,330
executive and an Internet
company since the company itself

555
00:32:21,330 --> 00:32:23,730
is just an entity that's filed
with the State Department this

556
00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:31,020
Department of State or state I'm
an executive with XYZ and I was

557
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:33,570
running something a little slow
and somebody says to me hey, you

558
00:32:33,570 --> 00:32:38,040
got this this terrorist document
that's floating around with too

559
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,860
few clicks somebody can find it
it's gonna tell him to kill the

560
00:32:40,860 --> 00:32:44,100
police department. And it shows
you how to make a bomb it goes

561
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:47,790
through a thing. I go look and
Oh, yeah. And then you take it

562
00:32:47,790 --> 00:32:50,010
down you just take it down. It
wouldn't even be you wouldn't

563
00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:52,140
need to be forced to take it
down something you don't want on

564
00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:52,860
your site.

565
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,240
She was very unclear. I think
maybe she

566
00:32:57,420 --> 00:32:59,940
doesn't want it on their site.
Nobody wants it on their site.

567
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,510
We

568
00:33:00,510 --> 00:33:03,930
have it on our site. I'm sure we
do. We have all come we have the

569
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,620
Unabomber manifesto on our site,
which well as he posts up like I

570
00:33:07,620 --> 00:33:09,270
don't want to download that man.
You have to

571
00:33:09,270 --> 00:33:12,780
do we have on our site, a mecca
how to make a bomb that blows up

572
00:33:12,780 --> 00:33:13,590
on an airplane thing?

573
00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:17,370
Yes, we have a copy a PDF copy
of How to make a bomb in the

574
00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:19,740
kitchen of your mom. Yeah, we
got that. Of course I saved

575
00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:23,070
that. That's That's news
gathering. Very important to

576
00:33:23,070 --> 00:33:27,300
have that taken off. Now Mike
morale, the former deputy

577
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:30,600
director of the Central
Intelligence Agency, who by the

578
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,830
way, and I said by the way, he
is now a senior correspondent

579
00:33:34,830 --> 00:33:36,390
for CBS News.

580
00:33:37,050 --> 00:33:39,600
Yeah, I noticed that Yeah. Any

581
00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:43,230
he's dressing up in in swanky
shirts now like blue kind of

582
00:33:43,290 --> 00:33:46,320
blue satin. Mic. No.

583
00:33:46,740 --> 00:33:48,840
And by the way, let me say by
the way, just said it myself.

584
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,760
You got it. You got me saying,
Hey, man, let me say this, about

585
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,440
that. Have you know a lot of
these things are on the lot of

586
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,370
these documents on the internet
are bogus. They're honey pots.

587
00:34:02,430 --> 00:34:04,950
They're made. They're made by
intelligence agencies.

588
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:07,650
Yeah, most of them in fact, that
whole magazine is made by an

589
00:34:07,650 --> 00:34:11,490
intelligence agency inspire
inspire magazine fire, and it

590
00:34:11,490 --> 00:34:15,630
shows you how to blow up. For
all practical purposes. It is a

591
00:34:15,660 --> 00:34:17,820
methodology to blow yourself up.

592
00:34:18,210 --> 00:34:22,140
Yeah, there's no no different
than Abbie Hoffman steal this

593
00:34:22,140 --> 00:34:25,620
book or the Anarchist Cookbook.
I would love to have

594
00:34:25,949 --> 00:34:27,959
I would love to get better
material in it. I

595
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:33,240
would love to have a vintage
copy of steel this book. I

596
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:36,480
remember I remember reading that
when I was 10. Yeah, what did it

597
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,690
tell you to do? It told you how
to make a table out of a cable

598
00:34:39,690 --> 00:34:40,290
spool

599
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,609
That's what I remember. I
remember though and then

600
00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:48,210
how to, you know, on the second
touchdown to the Super Bowl,

601
00:34:48,210 --> 00:34:51,600
everybody should flush their
toilet at the same time. But I

602
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,970
don't think I don't know if that
still works. I don't think it

603
00:34:53,970 --> 00:34:58,500
ever worked. And then there were
some some you know the book

604
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:02,190
Abbie Hoffman Steelers book is
well worth reading that you

605
00:35:02,190 --> 00:35:05,220
could not publish that but even
that reasonably tame book you

606
00:35:05,220 --> 00:35:08,130
could not publish today. He just
couldn't do it people be all up

607
00:35:08,130 --> 00:35:08,640
in your grill and

608
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,010
because people don't like it
because the furniture industry

609
00:35:11,010 --> 00:35:14,790
is against tables and gold
tables, spool tables, whatever

610
00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:15,660
they're called, you asked

611
00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:19,380
me things that you know, I have
the same answer as you do. Don't

612
00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:25,560
ask me that. Let's go back to my
Morel team. He goofed up and he

613
00:35:25,590 --> 00:35:31,350
he let something slip in this
and his analysis of the the lone

614
00:35:31,350 --> 00:35:36,510
wolf the lone wolf the lone wolf
that I found to be quite

615
00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:39,870
enlightening maybe part of the
the truth always wants to come

616
00:35:39,870 --> 00:35:40,920
out series. Yeah,

617
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:44,490
morels never been that talented
at keeping a secret certainly

618
00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:44,730
for an

619
00:35:44,730 --> 00:35:47,790
agency man. I think he's very
poor at it. Very poor. That's

620
00:35:47,790 --> 00:35:49,470
why he wasn't in the field. You
know, put that guy

621
00:35:49,470 --> 00:35:52,410
that he is yeah, that's always
out. CBS News Senior security

622
00:35:52,410 --> 00:35:53,700
contributor, Michael Morel

623
00:35:53,850 --> 00:35:57,750
is senior security contributor.
Nice. And Mike is what I would

624
00:35:57,750 --> 00:36:00,330
Yes. I want to say just throw
this in. I know people that you

625
00:36:00,330 --> 00:36:03,690
know, they come in and out of
media jobs like this. They

626
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,190
demand these titles.

627
00:36:05,730 --> 00:36:10,260
Of course, of course. Hey, I'd
want that

628
00:36:10,290 --> 00:36:12,720
they can't be a security analyst
or whatever they have to be a

629
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:17,640
senior SECURITY CORRESPONDENT
years are

630
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,520
typical with this warning. They
use the word senior because it

631
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,000
means something and in most
situations, like in publishing a

632
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,690
lot of these things like senior
senior contributing editor just

633
00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:31,620
means you don't do anything.
It's a bad title. You don't want

634
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:31,770
that.

635
00:36:32,009 --> 00:36:37,109
Well, his his his cock up fits
his job title.

636
00:36:37,170 --> 00:36:40,320
CBS News, senior security
contributor Michael Morel is

637
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,130
with us from you can

638
00:36:41,130 --> 00:36:43,860
even hear Charlie Rose tripping
over garlic. Really, this

639
00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:46,530
fuckers he wants to be senior
security analysts really that's

640
00:36:46,530 --> 00:36:48,600
what he wants. You can hear like
seniors.

641
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:53,670
CBS News Senior security
contributor Michael Morel is

642
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:57,450
with us from San Francisco. He
is a former CIA deputy director,

643
00:36:57,450 --> 00:36:58,260
Michael. Good morning.

644
00:36:58,620 --> 00:36:59,460
Good morning, Charlie.

645
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,990
What is the implication of this
attack? And is it the worst some

646
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:05,400
threat of the future?

647
00:37:06,210 --> 00:37:11,250
So surely, we still don't know
what motivated this young man? I

648
00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:14,880
would not be surprised if we
found out that he was indeed

649
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,810
motivated by ISIS or another
Islamic extremist.

650
00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:21,720
Mike, none of us will be
surprised if that was the

651
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:23,220
conclusion. None of us

652
00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:25,950
knew zation. I think that's
where we're going to end up

653
00:37:25,950 --> 00:37:30,360
here. That would make it the
most significant ISIS inspired

654
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,360
attack that we've had on our
soil. So really,

655
00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:36,990
the most significant ISIS
inspired attack?

656
00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:40,320
Well, what do you think?

657
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:43,260
I don't know if it's the most
significant one.

658
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,500
I don't know if there's any
other ones was listening

659
00:37:46,530 --> 00:37:50,910
before. There was the hatchet
attack in New York City. And

660
00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:53,700
then of course, there was the
attack in Texas, the attempted

661
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:57,510
attack in Texas, so this would
be the third. By far the worst.

662
00:37:58,380 --> 00:38:01,710
This is the wave of the future.
Charlie, this is not surprising

663
00:38:01,710 --> 00:38:04,380
to me. People have been warning
about this for months.

664
00:38:04,890 --> 00:38:05,670
Michael, you are

665
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:09,060
busy now. I love all this first.
You know, it's like you've been

666
00:38:09,060 --> 00:38:11,130
warning about it. We've been
warning about it. People have

667
00:38:11,130 --> 00:38:13,320
been warning about it. Oh my
goodness. It happened

668
00:38:13,350 --> 00:38:16,380
here on this show warning of
this very type of attack,

669
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,700
including at Mattel,

670
00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:20,880
wait a minute, did he want this
very type of attack or just

671
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,430
something at a military base or
not? Including at

672
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:28,260
Mattel military facilities? How
was it that he was not on any

673
00:38:28,260 --> 00:38:31,380
terrorism watch list and that
his father was at some point but

674
00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:32,100
then removed.

675
00:38:32,850 --> 00:38:35,850
Now the key here, I think I
didn't know this. His father was

676
00:38:35,850 --> 00:38:38,460
on a watch list. Did you know
though I didn't know this

677
00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:41,490
either. But I think that is the
key is to what he says next, or

678
00:38:41,490 --> 00:38:43,740
there was at some point but then
removed.

679
00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:48,450
So this is the most worrisome
part of this kind of threat that

680
00:38:48,450 --> 00:38:53,460
you can have a young man who may
not be in any contact with a

681
00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:57,000
foreign intelligence or a
foreign terrorist organization

682
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,330
or

683
00:38:59,730 --> 00:39:02,970
no contact with a foreign
intelligence organization. Now,

684
00:39:02,970 --> 00:39:07,290
Mike, we know you meant to say
that, because of course, of

685
00:39:07,290 --> 00:39:09,180
course they were part of a
foreign intelligence

686
00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:13,980
organization. That's exactly
what's going on here. Maybe not

687
00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:15,000
so foreign either

688
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:18,480
who is in his own home in his
bedroom, in his basement,

689
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,660
watching videos that's going to
websites.

690
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,160
And by the way, I'm jerking off
to porn is completely self

691
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,850
radicalized.

692
00:39:29,580 --> 00:39:33,780
In contact with foreigners or
with anybody in the United

693
00:39:33,780 --> 00:39:34,140
States,

694
00:39:34,290 --> 00:39:38,190
have you noticed that the the
terms that are being used to

695
00:39:38,190 --> 00:39:43,770
describe self radicalized use
youths are exactly the same as

696
00:39:43,770 --> 00:39:47,370
when bloggers first came out? In
the base? Some guy in the

697
00:39:47,370 --> 00:39:48,180
basement

698
00:39:48,210 --> 00:39:49,650
he sandwiches?

699
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,720
Grilled Cheese, grilled cheese
eaten grilled cheese sandwiches.

700
00:39:55,350 --> 00:39:59,970
Exactly. So we're not that far
away from Baghdad Lucas.

701
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,470
He said something else It was
amusing.

702
00:40:02,610 --> 00:40:07,320
Shoot I'm sorry I just dropped
the clip what was it that he

703
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,700
said that was amusing? I can't

704
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:12,120
remember I just remember was
amusing and I have to revisit

705
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:12,450
it.

706
00:40:12,899 --> 00:40:17,189
Okay, hold on one second to the
problem. If I dump a clip they

707
00:40:17,459 --> 00:40:21,809
don't need the excuses. I'm just
trying to fill time until the

708
00:40:21,839 --> 00:40:25,439
ball game until the slider fills
up from my tweets Yes. Read from

709
00:40:25,439 --> 00:40:28,619
your tweets please. It's taking
a long time for the for the

710
00:40:28,619 --> 00:40:33,089
slider bar to show up it's it's
it's a flaw in the in the

711
00:40:33,089 --> 00:40:35,399
software. Oh, here it is. Okay,
let's

712
00:40:35,429 --> 00:40:39,359
Harris organization, Nora, but
who is in his own home in his

713
00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:43,319
bedroom in his basement,
watching videos, going to

714
00:40:43,319 --> 00:40:47,939
websites who is completely self
radicalized without any contact

715
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,169
with foreigners or with anybody
in the United States that is the

716
00:40:52,169 --> 00:40:54,629
most dangerous because they can
go out and do something. And

717
00:40:54,629 --> 00:40:56,699
nobody knows anything about it
except them.

718
00:40:57,359 --> 00:40:58,409
What was the funny thing?

719
00:40:59,069 --> 00:41:01,829
I don't know it was it before
that. But I think the word

720
00:41:01,829 --> 00:41:06,569
foreigners is one of them. I
mean, using these words, but

721
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:10,499
okay, that let's assume what he
said is true. There in the

722
00:41:10,499 --> 00:41:15,509
basement, go into websites,
dreaming empty stuff on their

723
00:41:15,509 --> 00:41:17,639
own. They're not talking to
anybody else, which by the way

724
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:21,509
means that this encryption
argument all the crashes is

725
00:41:21,509 --> 00:41:25,559
specious. Perfect. It's bullcrap
is no reason to have any of

726
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:27,899
this. All of these encrypted
Yeah. Oh, that's good. All

727
00:41:27,929 --> 00:41:30,839
right, bust everyone's
encryption. No reason to do

728
00:41:30,839 --> 00:41:33,389
that. Apparently, if you listen
to this, this thesis, that's

729
00:41:33,389 --> 00:41:37,229
right. And then he goes off into
this is a criminal. This is a

730
00:41:37,229 --> 00:41:39,839
criminal act. People do stuff
like this. This has been going

731
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:42,809
on. We have a high crime rate in
this country. This is a

732
00:41:42,809 --> 00:41:44,219
variation of that. So

733
00:41:44,220 --> 00:41:46,140
what do we really have a high
crime rate?

734
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:49,680
We have a higher crime rate than
a lot of places. Not as high as

735
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,910
that say, you know, Uganda, but
it's a high crime rate.

736
00:41:54,299 --> 00:41:59,369
ixnay on the Buganda, Yay, I'm
going I don't want a high crime

737
00:41:59,369 --> 00:41:59,519
rate.

738
00:41:59,820 --> 00:42:04,320
Gun is one of our guys. in
Accra. It's not accurate, by the

739
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,770
way. It's a craw. We've been
pronouncing it wrong all these

740
00:42:07,770 --> 00:42:08,160
years.

741
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,400
I don't think I've ever had the
word a cry in my mouth ever

742
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:12,240
across

743
00:42:12,540 --> 00:42:15,720
your 20 plus years. They've word
in your mouth, but then again,

744
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:16,170
yeah,

745
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:18,420
exactly. Yes.

746
00:42:19,470 --> 00:42:23,310
Now, let's go to go over this.
This is ISIL has been around for

747
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:27,240
what? Three years now? For some
like that? Yeah. Yeah. Let's say

748
00:42:27,330 --> 00:42:30,420
let's say three. Yeah, just give
them benefit of the doubt. Make

749
00:42:30,420 --> 00:42:31,080
it three. Yeah,

750
00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:34,169
we've had three. Look at their
articles of incorporation.

751
00:42:34,229 --> 00:42:34,709
Obviously, we've

752
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:37,710
had we've had three events. They
probably had more than a few

753
00:42:37,710 --> 00:42:41,340
meetings. We've had three crappy
events. One of them was like,

754
00:42:41,370 --> 00:42:44,250
egged on by this woman, you know
that one in Texas? And then the

755
00:42:44,250 --> 00:42:47,160
other one is some guy with an
axe running around Aw, big

756
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,690
threat. Yeah. And now this guy.
Yeah, this is low, low numbers.

757
00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:54,930
Yeah. And that does, I don't see
why they want to make people

758
00:42:54,930 --> 00:42:57,270
shake their boots or get to do a
better job than this.

759
00:42:57,629 --> 00:43:01,469
And you know, and so they're
talking about this encryption,

760
00:43:02,009 --> 00:43:05,519
which of course, we all know
what what what is ultimately

761
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,979
going to happen. There will be
some government sanctioned

762
00:43:07,979 --> 00:43:11,879
encryption system. That will be
the the official way to do it.

763
00:43:11,879 --> 00:43:15,479
And everyone will be using that.
I'm sorry, it will have

764
00:43:15,479 --> 00:43:17,819
backdoors. That will of course,
it will have backdoors.

765
00:43:18,930 --> 00:43:21,570
Which means it's useless because
if the government has the key to

766
00:43:21,570 --> 00:43:23,490
the backdoor, so with the
criminals

767
00:43:23,730 --> 00:43:26,790
Well, it's interesting because
the way it's going now with the

768
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:33,210
most recent wired expos A, we're
going to have backdoors into

769
00:43:33,210 --> 00:43:38,040
your vehicle. I'm sure you I'm
sure you I have a little audio

770
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,530
report of what I'm sure everyone
saw what started

771
00:43:40,530 --> 00:43:45,360
as an ordinary highway drive.
quickly turned terrifying for

772
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,230
Andy Greenberg.

773
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,050
Okay, hold on tight. Hold on.
Oh, as hackers

774
00:43:49,050 --> 00:43:53,220
remotely took control of his
2014 Jeep Cherokee, sending him

775
00:43:53,220 --> 00:43:57,210
into a ditch Greenberg, a
reporter for Wired Magazine did

776
00:43:57,210 --> 00:44:01,650
this on purpose. Working with
cybersecurity experts hackers to

777
00:44:01,650 --> 00:44:03,960
show how some connected cars can
be vulnerable.

778
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:07,740
That seems to be fun. So I can
only imagine if the same thing

779
00:44:07,740 --> 00:44:11,640
was done to you without any
forewarning whatsoever how much

780
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:14,190
fear that couldn't steal someone

781
00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:17,370
hackers in the Wired article
access to the Jeep through its

782
00:44:17,370 --> 00:44:21,330
infotainment system to change
the radio and the AC and in a

783
00:44:21,330 --> 00:44:23,760
much more dangerous move. To
kill the engine.

784
00:44:23,790 --> 00:44:27,450
You got to turn the car off. The
two researchers believe that as

785
00:44:27,450 --> 00:44:31,200
many as 471,000 vehicles are
potentially vulnerable. They've

786
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,410
only verified that on a 2014
Jeep Cherokee

787
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:37,710
Chrysler, which owns Jeep
released a software update this

788
00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:40,920
month and says it has a team
focused on identifying and

789
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,620
implementing software best
practices, including

790
00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:47,250
cybersecurity for all vehicle
content, including onboard and

791
00:44:47,250 --> 00:44:50,670
remote services. Just today, a
bill introduced in Congress

792
00:44:50,670 --> 00:44:54,150
would require that connected
cars protect drivers against

793
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:57,750
cyber criminals with encryption
I presume and have technology

794
00:44:57,750 --> 00:45:00,090
that can stop a hack in real
time. If

795
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,640
that means we'll be monitoring
100 million cars in real time to

796
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,150
stop a cyber attack in real time
as cars become more connected,

797
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:15,360
they are introduced. Well,
what's interesting, according to

798
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,980
the Wired article, the way this
hack works is, as long as you're

799
00:45:19,980 --> 00:45:24,420
on the Sprint network and can
ping an IP address, then what

800
00:45:24,420 --> 00:45:27,510
they were showing, apparently,
is that you can get GPS

801
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:31,590
coordinates and and then through
the entertainment system, which

802
00:45:31,590 --> 00:45:35,610
sounds just as bogus as the
totally bogus. I mean, what

803
00:45:35,610 --> 00:45:39,810
these guys did is they loaded
new firmware onto the cam chip,

804
00:45:40,290 --> 00:45:44,160
which really controls all the
the management of the vehicles

805
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,150
functioning. Okay, so you're
telling me that you, you were

806
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:49,890
able to install that?

807
00:45:50,459 --> 00:45:53,579
Well, they had to install? Let
me read a note from a guy, one

808
00:45:53,579 --> 00:45:56,219
of our producers who talked
about this a little bit Oh,

809
00:45:56,219 --> 00:45:59,639
good. Based on the picture, that
Jeep would have a Chrysler

810
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:02,999
Uconnect audio climate control
system, it does not have the

811
00:46:02,999 --> 00:46:06,929
capability to play or transmit
video to the screen, which they

812
00:46:06,929 --> 00:46:09,659
claimed to have done with the
exception of the rear camera.

813
00:46:09,659 --> 00:46:12,359
And that function is actuated by
putting the transmission in

814
00:46:12,359 --> 00:46:13,199
reverse, and you can't

815
00:46:13,859 --> 00:46:16,799
they claim that they showed up
on the video screen in the car,

816
00:46:16,799 --> 00:46:19,889
which has, yeah, it's possible
if you if you're in there

817
00:46:19,889 --> 00:46:22,139
changing the firmware, this just
reeks. I didn't

818
00:46:22,140 --> 00:46:24,780
shave, you hacked the whole car
and you put a new system and you

819
00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:28,020
could do anything. This is like,
oh, you know, the brakes don't

820
00:46:28,020 --> 00:46:30,690
write the brakes dark, they can
be hacked because you can cut

821
00:46:30,690 --> 00:46:33,390
the brake lines. I mean, this,
this doesn't count. Let's go on

822
00:46:33,390 --> 00:46:35,610
with some of the stuff this guy
says you have to put the

823
00:46:35,610 --> 00:46:38,490
transmission in reverse to get
the camera to turn on or to get

824
00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:41,280
into the camera subsystem, the
windshield wipers on that

825
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,610
particular car actuated by a
physical switch on a stock they

826
00:46:44,610 --> 00:46:49,020
don't have they're not in vo
really. They're not according to

827
00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:51,420
him, he they're not involved
with the rest of the subsystems.

828
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,320
It's mechanically impossible to
for the RPMs to climb while the

829
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,990
car decelerates unless a
transmission is shifted into

830
00:46:57,990 --> 00:47:01,380
neutral and the transmission is
not controlled by the UConnect

831
00:47:01,380 --> 00:47:01,620
system.

832
00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:06,480
What is our producers? Yeah,
what is his credibility level

833
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:06,600
does

834
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,290
you have a high end tech kid at
a company that does well that's

835
00:47:10,290 --> 00:47:10,830
what I wanted to hear

836
00:47:10,860 --> 00:47:13,470
that's that's the kind of
techies obviously, that's the

837
00:47:13,470 --> 00:47:14,280
kind of the bit about

838
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,650
jerking the seatbelt. By the
way. I got into a beef on

839
00:47:16,650 --> 00:47:18,810
Twitter, I'm getting sick of
this. But this happens all the

840
00:47:18,810 --> 00:47:21,390
time. I said well, how are you
going to be I said, this sounds

841
00:47:21,390 --> 00:47:23,640
like bull crap to me. How are
you going to be jerking the

842
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,000
seatbelts and I have a bunch of
well there are some systems that

843
00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:29,190
their lane control system.

844
00:47:30,030 --> 00:47:33,240
I know that guy I know that guy
onto it. You know that? Yeah.

845
00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:36,840
A good guy that could jerk the
system. So I looked it up

846
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,000
because nobody they're gonna
just throw it this is the I

847
00:47:39,060 --> 00:47:41,430
think phenomenon that you've
been bitching about. Well, I

848
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:43,980
bitched about it after the show.
So we should pause. We'll talk

849
00:47:43,980 --> 00:47:46,680
about it later because I have
some examples in the show today.

850
00:47:47,550 --> 00:47:51,330
So that you know this and that I
looked it up No, the Jeep

851
00:47:51,330 --> 00:47:55,440
Cherokee system of the of the
lane control system involves a

852
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,590
visual signal and then they jerk
the steering wheel, which is the

853
00:47:58,590 --> 00:48:02,850
way most of them work. This does
not involve the seatbelts. Okay,

854
00:48:02,850 --> 00:48:05,790
let's go on that bit about
jerking the seatbelt and taking

855
00:48:05,790 --> 00:48:09,180
over the steering wheel and the
22 through 2013 experiment

856
00:48:09,180 --> 00:48:12,030
again, complete bullshit. Those
items are not electronically

857
00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:14,490
actuated system, these two
idiots would have had to

858
00:48:14,490 --> 00:48:17,250
physically grab the seatbelt in
the steering wheel in order to

859
00:48:17,250 --> 00:48:19,980
things meant to do things
mentioned in the article. The

860
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:23,280
best one hacking into the brake
system is not only completely

861
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,440
false, but also reckless
journalism. I don't know what

862
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,140
that right. Oh, reckless
journalist, record journalist

863
00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:31,590
that bugs me, I think I think we
perform reckless journalism. If

864
00:48:31,590 --> 00:48:33,330
anyone does the brakes on

865
00:48:33,330 --> 00:48:36,480
the car, which, along with the
steering wheel are among the few

866
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,320
things that will work if the car
is to completely lose electrical

867
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,850
power. This they have they made
you lose your powers. I noticed

868
00:48:44,850 --> 00:48:48,420
this, but the brakes and
steering have to work manually

869
00:48:48,420 --> 00:48:51,390
as far as I know that's a
requirement for all cars sold in

870
00:48:51,390 --> 00:48:55,620
the United States. Now he takes
it which again means you could

871
00:48:56,310 --> 00:48:59,010
turn off the electricity and
drive the car again you have to

872
00:48:59,010 --> 00:49:02,850
be able to do that. Otherwise
you kill somebody and this is

873
00:49:02,850 --> 00:49:05,970
being done on the freeway, which
seems questionable. Then he says

874
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:09,840
he has a theory says it sounds
like a hit piece on Fiat

875
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:15,060
Chrysler. On behalf of the UAW I
like they know that the FCA is

876
00:49:15,060 --> 00:49:18,150
currently looking for another
auto manufacturer to partner

877
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:22,170
with that's Fiat Chrysler,
whatever, partner with combined

878
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:24,360
resources and potentially sell
off Chrysler and its

879
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,770
subsidiaries RAM, Jeep and
dodge. If the UAW can sabotage

880
00:49:28,770 --> 00:49:32,910
that they can keep the jobs in
the US a little longer. Ah, I

881
00:49:32,910 --> 00:49:35,910
think this is just one of those,
you know, these two guys are

882
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:36,450
part of a

883
00:49:36,990 --> 00:49:39,600
while they present, they're
gonna present a consulting firm,

884
00:49:39,630 --> 00:49:44,730
they're gonna they Oh, they they
did this. In they they received

885
00:49:44,730 --> 00:49:51,510
an $80,000 grant to do this.
Yeah. So yeah. But more

886
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:55,470
importantly, if we're all going
to accept this, then I demand

887
00:49:56,310 --> 00:49:59,100
that as a citizen of the United
States of good moment, nation, I

888
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:02,490
demand we reopen the
investigation on Michael

889
00:50:02,490 --> 00:50:07,560
Hastings. Because we all can be
in on this as Oh, it's really

890
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,810
can happen. And then when you
say Well, Michael Hastings, the

891
00:50:09,810 --> 00:50:13,650
Breitbart reporter who had
important information who died

892
00:50:13,650 --> 00:50:17,400
in one quarter border Rolling
Stone, you can't then say, oh,

893
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,280
that's just a conspiracy theory.
That's the same guy, by the way

894
00:50:20,310 --> 00:50:26,220
from Twitter. Yes, true. Yeah.
You just can't do that. So

895
00:50:26,220 --> 00:50:28,920
some awfully fishy about that
story. You can't have it both

896
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,100
ways

897
00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:32,310
for 20 plus years, they've had
glow in the dark dogs you can

898
00:50:32,310 --> 00:50:37,080
buy that are part jelly fin
anything go boom. Boom.

899
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:45,570
Johnson Johnson, who was our
Secretary of the Department of

900
00:50:45,570 --> 00:50:49,290
Homeland Security, who by the
way, and I said it big

901
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:55,920
exclamation marks. These guys,
DHS. They there's a cyber bill.

902
00:50:56,370 --> 00:51:01,140
Let me open this up for you.
You're gonna love this. This is

903
00:51:01,470 --> 00:51:07,980
Paul wood bill numbers this has
doesn't even have a number yet.

904
00:51:08,010 --> 00:51:13,020
Okay. So it's, it's coming. It's
early. This is a bill to

905
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:16,020
strengthen the ability of the
Secretary of Homeland Security.

906
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:20,370
So that would be Joe Johnson to
detect and prevent intrusions

907
00:51:20,370 --> 00:51:22,980
against and to use
countermeasures to protect

908
00:51:23,070 --> 00:51:28,410
government agency information
systems. This Act may be cited

909
00:51:28,410 --> 00:51:32,010
as the Federal Information
Security Management Reform Act

910
00:51:32,430 --> 00:51:38,340
FISMA. Ah, this shitty acronym
people, and what it does, it has

911
00:51:38,370 --> 00:51:43,380
the idea is I believe it's $8
billion. They want to

912
00:51:43,380 --> 00:51:46,230
appropriate so that Department
of Vietnam No, not the

913
00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:52,860
department, the Secretary of the
UN. Yes, the Secretary of

914
00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:56,160
Homeland Security, Jeh Johnson
came then implement systems, I

915
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,040
guess, to protect government
agency information systems,

916
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:05,250
which would include OPM,
anything like that. Ben Johnson

917
00:52:05,250 --> 00:52:10,770
got called out in Bing was
Bloomberg for using his personal

918
00:52:10,770 --> 00:52:15,300
Gmail at the office. And
although it isn't really clear,

919
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:17,400
in this clip you're about to
hear, there's one little piece

920
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,000
that is important I want to
play. The reason why that is

921
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:27,300
inherently dangerous is Java in
JavaScript in search, if you're

922
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:30,480
looking at your Gmail, then you
know that could do if you're

923
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,580
using browser based systems, it
could potentially make your next

924
00:52:35,580 --> 00:52:40,770
connection to the internal email
insecure, I think we would all

925
00:52:40,770 --> 00:52:43,560
agree that it's possible. We've
seen these types of

926
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:46,740
possibilities of you using
Gmail, but the

927
00:52:46,740 --> 00:52:49,680
cavalier attitude of Mr.
Johnson, the man who was about

928
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,870
to receive what will once this
is through, I'm sure it's going

929
00:52:51,870 --> 00:52:55,560
to happen will receive a billion
dollars to protect the very same

930
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:00,360
systems that he is using is so
cavalier, I think he needs to be

931
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,830
called to account let's be clear

932
00:53:01,860 --> 00:53:08,280
about what the story is talking
about. At my desktop at work, I

933
00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:13,260
was via the Internet accessing
my personal Gmail account, so I

934
00:53:13,260 --> 00:53:17,700
could see who was sending me
stuff on my Gmail on my phone,

935
00:53:17,700 --> 00:53:20,280
you know, see if I gotta need a
Tinder dates, personal account,

936
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,140
not to be confused with my DHS
email, which I use all the time.

937
00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:29,220
And there are I received a
waiver from our chief

938
00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:31,110
information officer to do that,
who

939
00:53:31,110 --> 00:53:32,850
should be fired for that waiver?

940
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:38,220
So until the rules, but totally
there are some security risks

941
00:53:38,220 --> 00:53:41,940
that have been raised concerning
that. So I'm suspending that

942
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:45,240
probably should have done it
sooner. Yeah. And I want to see

943
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:50,790
the others on that list, do the
same thing. I think that DHS has

944
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:53,100
to be the model for good
cybersecurity and the federal

945
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:56,400
government other than certainly
as, as the Secretary and the

946
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,440
leader of the department, I
should be a model for the rest

947
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,040
of the department

948
00:53:59,070 --> 00:54:03,030
now, now. Okay, I got it. You're
very serious about your

949
00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:06,060
cybersecurity of the
government.gov domain. And of

950
00:54:06,060 --> 00:54:08,910
course, you will be receiving
billions of dollars to shore up

951
00:54:08,910 --> 00:54:11,520
that security. But when you when
you make a mistake like this,

952
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:14,850
how do you classify that kind of
mistake? That's what I intend to

953
00:54:14,850 --> 00:54:15,150
do?

954
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,520
Did you conduct any DHS? Did you
conduct any DHS business on that

955
00:54:20,580 --> 00:54:21,240
on your Gmail?

956
00:54:21,660 --> 00:54:25,830
No, that's not my practice. I
mean, occasionally with somebody

957
00:54:25,830 --> 00:54:30,120
mistakenly send me an email on
my Gmail and I push it to my DHS

958
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:30,570
email,

959
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:34,260
oh, he push it to be which means
you're forwarding it creating

960
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:40,590
another copy on Gmail in the
sent box. This guy is he should

961
00:54:40,590 --> 00:54:43,620
not be in charge of any
cybersecurity. He does not just

962
00:54:43,650 --> 00:54:46,350
oh, I pushed it. No, you
forwarded it, you didn't push

963
00:54:46,350 --> 00:54:46,620
it. So

964
00:54:46,620 --> 00:54:52,770
I'm a frequent user of DHS
email. So that's not that's not

965
00:54:52,770 --> 00:54:53,220
an issue.

966
00:54:53,940 --> 00:54:56,700
Well, frequent user of DHS
email, that's not really the

967
00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:57,240
standard.

968
00:54:57,630 --> 00:55:01,470
No, I mean, I use my DHS email
for government business. I use

969
00:55:01,470 --> 00:55:03,660
my Gmail for private business. I
wonder what he's

970
00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:04,260
using his phone.

971
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,950
And so we're you look at some of
the hacking that we've seen,

972
00:55:07,950 --> 00:55:12,510
including Sony, really taking a
risk by having Gmail on your

973
00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:12,900
desktop?

974
00:55:15,330 --> 00:55:20,970
Probably not an appreciable one,
but one that probably should be

975
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,490
eliminated. So I'm eliminating
it.

976
00:55:23,610 --> 00:55:25,710
And what was the trigger that
caused you to eliminate it?

977
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,100
Well, that story certainly
helped.

978
00:55:29,130 --> 00:55:32,100
He said the article exactly the
no one within the department,

979
00:55:32,130 --> 00:55:35,160
not his chief information
officer. No one but then.

980
00:55:38,550 --> 00:55:43,140
But it mean, frankly, to be
perfectly honest, this is

981
00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:46,380
something that I had for a
while. And but

982
00:55:46,380 --> 00:55:49,320
when he said, when someone says,
To be perfectly honest, I

983
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,560
usually say, oh, as opposed to
the bullshit you just been

984
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,340
feeding me for the fast for the
past minute and a half. Now,

985
00:55:56,610 --> 00:55:58,980
frankly, is another one that
triggers that thought.

986
00:56:01,830 --> 00:56:07,020
But it mean, frankly, to be
honest, this is something that I

987
00:56:07,020 --> 00:56:12,060
had for a while. And when I read
the story, I said, you know,

988
00:56:12,090 --> 00:56:14,130
oops, this is not a good
practice.

989
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,070
Okay. That's, that is there's
your cybersecurity of the United

990
00:56:17,070 --> 00:56:18,690
States of America, everybody.
Oops.

991
00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:24,210
Now, you have to just assume the
Russians have got all our email

992
00:56:24,210 --> 00:56:26,820
going right straight to them.
That then includes Hillary

993
00:56:26,820 --> 00:56:29,970
stuff, too. When she was doing
her own server. They have all

994
00:56:29,970 --> 00:56:30,270
those.

995
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:33,360
I had a thought about him and
his Gmail, and he seems like a

996
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:39,870
guy that might have this issue.
The Ashley Madison hack, which

997
00:56:39,870 --> 00:56:44,820
we know very little about. Yes,
sir. I'm telling you, like male

998
00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:50,760
point in the right hands. You
know that politicians? Most

999
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,370
people in general I'm sure if
you look with the percentages,

1000
00:56:53,370 --> 00:56:57,720
would we have like 40% divorce
rate in America? Plus 44

1001
00:56:58,830 --> 00:57:01,410
politicians and I'm sure that
they're on Ashley Madison

1002
00:57:01,410 --> 00:57:03,600
looking for you know, dates.

1003
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,200
Yeah, cuz there's not enough
women in Washington DC pick up

1004
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,190
anybody on Wall Street.

1005
00:57:08,220 --> 00:57:11,460
They need fresh, fresh women
that haven't been like tossed

1006
00:57:11,460 --> 00:57:16,140
around a lot. And I'm thinking
he's he's waiting for dates to

1007
00:57:16,140 --> 00:57:21,990
come in from his Ashley Madison
account. And he's using he's

1008
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:26,010
using the G males for that. And
I have a feeling that we know

1009
00:57:26,010 --> 00:57:28,590
very little this information has
not been published this Ashley

1010
00:57:28,590 --> 00:57:32,400
Madison stuff. It hasn't gotten
out there who has it and what

1011
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,510
will they do with it? I tell you
that this is a blackmail

1012
00:57:36,510 --> 00:57:40,020
operation. And there's and
there's a ton of like it

1013
00:57:40,050 --> 00:57:43,380
I like this theory I didn't we
didn't discuss it in any detail.

1014
00:57:43,530 --> 00:57:46,800
On the last show. We discussed
the hack. Or actually I

1015
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,560
discussed a hack with maybe was
Horowitz I don't remember where

1016
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,140
I discussed this the problem of
doing too many shows. But

1017
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,760
you do two shows I do each other
shows that I can't give too many

1018
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,950
shows terrible too many shows.

1019
00:57:59,340 --> 00:58:06,390
Do I do too much work? The point
is is that obviously this is a

1020
00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:09,420
black male thing. This is
perfect. This is like having the

1021
00:58:09,420 --> 00:58:14,220
hookers address but you have the
Washington I mean that's what

1022
00:58:14,220 --> 00:58:16,620
they do with that poor woman
they busted in Washington DC the

1023
00:58:16,620 --> 00:58:20,670
one that the madam that's the DC
madam. Yeah, they first thing

1024
00:58:20,670 --> 00:58:24,060
they do is grab that book and
that thing was just destroyed. I

1025
00:58:24,090 --> 00:58:26,400
don't know what happened to it.
It's gone. I don't know. I went

1026
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:31,380
into police custody. And now
it's disappeared. Now now you

1027
00:58:31,380 --> 00:58:32,100
got something.

1028
00:58:34,380 --> 00:58:37,860
Wow. Yeah, well, you know, keep
our eye on and see who's acting

1029
00:58:37,860 --> 00:58:39,690
strange. I think Johnson who
look

1030
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,840
I would say Jake Johnson is
acting strange, don't you? He

1031
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:43,230
doesn't You

1032
00:58:43,230 --> 00:58:47,580
look a bit like just one of
these typical guys. Like, I hate

1033
00:58:47,580 --> 00:58:51,960
to say it, like a Bill Cosby.
You know, pointing the finger at

1034
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,510
everybody else and then doing
all kinds of crazy shit in the

1035
00:58:54,510 --> 00:58:57,390
background. There are a lot of
people I know a lot of people

1036
00:58:57,390 --> 00:58:57,450
who

1037
00:58:58,140 --> 00:59:00,120
point the finger and then do the
opposite,

1038
00:59:00,150 --> 00:59:03,780
so I should discontinue it. And
how to Josh Rogan find out about

1039
00:59:03,780 --> 00:59:06,240
this? i You have to ask Josh
Rogan?

1040
00:59:06,930 --> 00:59:09,900
Do you guys know like how it
leaked or how people found out

1041
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:10,710
or how it came to there?

1042
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,250
I wish I knew the source of all
leaks in Washington.

1043
00:59:14,580 --> 00:59:15,870
Oh yeah, I bet you do.

1044
00:59:17,970 --> 00:59:21,060
Pretty good cybersecurity
editors Sean Waterman sends me

1045
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:25,500
question, moral hazard. He says
why is it that these rules only

1046
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:29,040
seem to apply to the little
people not the bosses? Good

1047
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,810
question. Well,

1048
00:59:31,260 --> 00:59:34,410
as I said, I obtained a waiver
from the Chief Information

1049
00:59:34,410 --> 00:59:35,610
Officer of the department to

1050
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,690
do who is the Chief Information
Officer of DHS CIC we'll

1051
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,600
find out I'll look him up if I
can find him but I find this to

1052
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:43,470
be a bogus

1053
00:59:43,830 --> 00:59:46,890
because out this it's a new
chief information. I know what

1054
00:59:46,890 --> 00:59:47,670
you doubt what

1055
00:59:47,940 --> 00:59:50,700
I doubt he got every waiver.
It's just like, hey, you know,

1056
00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:53,130
it's one of these things. Oh,
she's I gotta get off. This is

1057
00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:55,770
there on my case, and you call
it Well, how am I gonna get out

1058
00:59:55,770 --> 00:59:58,380
of it? You have a meeting staff
meeting. We're screwed. We got

1059
00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:00,750
this problem. The Chief
Information Should officers that

1060
01:00:00,750 --> 01:00:03,360
the meeting says Just tell him
he got a waiver from me? I'll

1061
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,500
cover your ass. Oh, thanks,
Bill. Thanks, this. I really

1062
01:00:07,500 --> 01:00:09,990
appreciate I'll just say that
you can say you made a mistake

1063
01:00:10,020 --> 01:00:13,020
is yeah, I'll take the ball.
Take it. It's no big deal. I get

1064
01:00:13,020 --> 01:00:15,840
fired. He's named. Don't worry
about it. I got you covered. His

1065
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,880
name is Luke. Yeah. Luke,

1066
01:00:17,940 --> 01:00:20,490
Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, look,
look.

1067
01:00:21,930 --> 01:00:23,880
Look, I get this one of those
things. You ever see these

1068
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,580
situations in these government
things where the guy foul, the

1069
01:00:26,580 --> 01:00:30,240
guy screws up, or somebody
screws up but this guy gets

1070
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,760
blamed. Oh, this guy is the
worst. He did all these bad

1071
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,360
things. Then he gets promoted.
And then the media is always

1072
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,850
going, Oh, this guy is
responsible for this mess.

1073
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,750
Probably wasn't. Probably wasn't
responsible. That's why he got

1074
01:00:42,750 --> 01:00:43,350
promoted. That's

1075
01:00:43,350 --> 01:00:45,690
how Uncle Dom became ambassador
to South Korea.

1076
01:00:46,770 --> 01:00:49,350
It was really Yeah, he's he met
I took a bullet.

1077
01:00:49,380 --> 01:00:54,900
No, he messed up on. Yeah, he
took a bullet on Iran Contra. He

1078
01:00:54,900 --> 01:01:00,360
set up the meeting with Felix
Rodriguez. And then and then had

1079
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:05,850
that, you know, it was written
down Don's a note taker. And

1080
01:01:05,850 --> 01:01:09,420
he'd written it down and then
that surfaced Oh, haha. And then

1081
01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:12,930
there's like stuff down and then
but he made it through

1082
01:01:13,410 --> 01:01:16,260
senatorial over near the
Oversight Committee and they

1083
01:01:16,260 --> 01:01:19,170
were very mean. I've received
that. I'm gonna look this up

1084
01:01:19,170 --> 01:01:21,930
somewhere I have. This will be
fun to read somewhere. I have a

1085
01:01:21,930 --> 01:01:27,690
note from Aunt Meg to my mom.
about him getting through. I

1086
01:01:27,690 --> 01:01:31,590
gotta find this. This letter.
I'll see if I can. It's just one

1087
01:01:31,590 --> 01:01:34,770
of these things. Cleaning up my
my crap from the old house and I

1088
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,160
ran across this. I was like, Oh,
that's interesting. I'll anyway

1089
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,820
the Chief Information Officer.
The he comes from the Department

1090
01:01:41,820 --> 01:01:45,510
of Justice. This Luke. Luke, the
lender knows how to play the

1091
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:47,850
game. Yeah, where he was Deputy
Assistant Attorney General. So

1092
01:01:47,850 --> 01:01:49,740
as a lawyer for a final show,
he's

1093
01:01:49,740 --> 01:01:52,770
the Chief Information Officer.
So he knows everything about

1094
01:01:52,770 --> 01:01:55,710
computers and he can give him
the Go ahead. That makes sense

1095
01:01:55,710 --> 01:01:56,280
prior to

1096
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,820
his tenure at DOJ. Mr. McCormack
served as the Immigration and

1097
01:01:59,820 --> 01:02:03,480
Customs Enforcement CIO, that
held several other senior

1098
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,620
Homeland Security IT management
positions from 99 to 2012. A US

1099
01:02:07,620 --> 01:02:11,490
Customs and Border Protection.
Its legacy agency, US Customs,

1100
01:02:11,610 --> 01:02:14,070
his private sector positions
including management roles

1101
01:02:14,070 --> 01:02:19,440
within MCI, Ford aerospace and a
smaller minority owned firm.

1102
01:02:19,470 --> 01:02:21,390
Does that mean Jesus spoke

1103
01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:26,310
he's got spoke written all over
him. Hey, yeah, come on. Tell me

1104
01:02:26,310 --> 01:02:26,790
I'm wrong.

1105
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:31,050
Let's see MBA, MBA, MBA MBA.

1106
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:35,520
That could be a typo. It says
MBA master veterinarian of yours

1107
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:35,640
is

1108
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,630
an MBA from the Smith School
University of Maryland. And

1109
01:02:39,630 --> 01:02:44,310
holds Kelly certifications are
like ran the school newspaper at

1110
01:02:44,310 --> 01:02:48,390
Columbia University and National
Defense University. Life

1111
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:51,870
forgotten your life forgot.
Finally bit hear from so. So if

1112
01:02:51,870 --> 01:02:52,830
you want to

1113
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:57,210
be in a race or get a bump, if
you if you want

1114
01:02:57,210 --> 01:03:01,050
to protect your internal
systems, you know, how does

1115
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,560
Johnson, the Secretary of
department Homeland Security?

1116
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,190
How does he segregate this and
make sure everything is all safe

1117
01:03:08,190 --> 01:03:08,790
this

1118
01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:14,790
and he gave me the waiver. But I
do believe that I should set the

1119
01:03:14,790 --> 01:03:18,450
standard. And so okay, what's
the standard? Just use my

1120
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:18,930
iPhone?

1121
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,670
No problem. Just use my iPhone.
Just I'll just use my iPhone. No

1122
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:27,120
problem. Yeah. So last question.
Here comes again.

1123
01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:29,850
How will you read Gmail now?

1124
01:03:30,540 --> 01:03:34,260
On my iPhone? Like a lot of
other people.

1125
01:03:35,310 --> 01:03:36,450
And so that's the

1126
01:03:36,990 --> 01:03:39,810
there it is. That's your
cybersecurity expert rightly

1127
01:03:39,810 --> 01:03:43,920
macro, read it on my phone.
They'll read on my other people

1128
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:44,160
that go

1129
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,820
that's the practical differences
rather than using a government

1130
01:03:47,820 --> 01:03:49,800
desktop. Use an iPhone. Yeah,

1131
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,940
rather than accessing the
internet and accessing my Gmail

1132
01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:55,740
on a desktop, I'll just use my
phone. Just

1133
01:03:55,860 --> 01:03:58,140
I'll just move my phone. Wow.

1134
01:04:00,630 --> 01:04:02,670
They need a guy like Joe Ango.

1135
01:04:06,270 --> 01:04:09,330
I love Joe but I just get a
short short picture of him with

1136
01:04:09,330 --> 01:04:13,290
his pink hair and his and his
dress. With the pink hair. It's

1137
01:04:13,290 --> 01:04:14,700
four and a half inch heels

1138
01:04:14,820 --> 01:04:18,630
in terms of terms of a guy who
knows,

1139
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:22,740
oh, he knows his stuff. Hell
yeah. But I just can't see Joe

1140
01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:24,360
NGO gelling very well.

1141
01:04:24,930 --> 01:04:26,490
We're working it out with Jeff

1142
01:04:26,790 --> 01:04:33,930
Johnson. Like, Hey, Mr. Johnson.
I'm Joe NGO. I'm glad Django

1143
01:04:33,930 --> 01:04:34,470
would have

1144
01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:36,810
these days. It was annoying.
Everybody couldn't do a

1145
01:04:37,830 --> 01:04:43,710
mistake. The Joe NGO was one of
the server guys. The time was

1146
01:04:43,710 --> 01:04:48,570
the server guy at pod show. And
Joe really knows his stuff and

1147
01:04:48,570 --> 01:04:52,590
he lives eats impurity. He is
Yeah, he is dude named Ben for

1148
01:04:52,590 --> 01:04:59,160
network security. But he's he
also is he's a transvestite.

1149
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,310
I believe I don't know what he
is. It's just beside the point.

1150
01:05:02,340 --> 01:05:02,700
No, it's

1151
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:05,340
interesting. And it's not beside
the point because you have to

1152
01:05:05,340 --> 01:05:09,630
imagine Joe at Django, on
Twitter. Just look at the

1153
01:05:09,630 --> 01:05:14,280
pictures. Joe with his pink hair
and his foreign accent shields,

1154
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,410
clickety, clack, clickety clack,
Hey, Jay.

1155
01:05:16,799 --> 01:05:22,019
But he would do stuff like,
there was it all disappeared

1156
01:05:22,019 --> 01:05:25,109
when he quit. And he quit for
some interesting reasons. But he

1157
01:05:25,109 --> 01:05:29,489
quit them. He would do stuff
like, do you you want to use the

1158
01:05:29,489 --> 01:05:35,129
internal Wi Fi network? You had
to he had to mail you the

1159
01:05:35,129 --> 01:05:41,189
password, which was a mile long,
and consisted mostly of carrots

1160
01:05:42,989 --> 01:05:46,439
with all kinds of code that was
like you don't even I don't even

1161
01:05:46,439 --> 01:05:49,559
know if I could type this. I
could cut and paste it but I

1162
01:05:49,559 --> 01:05:51,989
couldn't type so you get this in
email, which probably was a

1163
01:05:51,989 --> 01:05:54,149
security breach because the
email could have been forwarded.

1164
01:05:54,419 --> 01:05:58,109
But then you had to patch this
thing and it was a jillion miles

1165
01:05:58,109 --> 01:05:59,219
long and then you get onto

1166
01:05:59,220 --> 01:06:01,050
do not say a jillion miles.

1167
01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:05,820
I said that I'm sorry, I will
give myself minus one point that

1168
01:06:05,820 --> 01:06:10,590
was very bad. That was that was
a minus two. I can't go any

1169
01:06:10,590 --> 01:06:16,110
further than that. But he it was
he knew his stuff. I mean, I

1170
01:06:16,140 --> 01:06:18,630
argued with him endlessly
because we had we were trying to

1171
01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:23,820
market something using
WordPress. And you know, you go

1172
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:27,510
to the blog I remember all this
there was nothing you could do.

1173
01:06:27,810 --> 01:06:32,490
I wanted to use a plug in
security problem everything was

1174
01:06:32,490 --> 01:06:35,550
everything on WordPress
apparently was a security issue.

1175
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:40,380
Yeah, yeah. What was he
protecting? The other thing the

1176
01:06:40,380 --> 01:06:40,800
important

1177
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,830
information of pod show our
content. I'm like, please, why

1178
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,370
would anybody Please steal our
content? Put it on WikiLeaks, at

1179
01:06:47,370 --> 01:06:49,050
least someone watches this shit.

1180
01:06:50,820 --> 01:06:55,500
But know that those guys are out
there. Those guys are good, and

1181
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:59,730
they're good and they know what
they're doing. Apparently, these

1182
01:06:59,730 --> 01:07:00,300
guys

1183
01:07:00,420 --> 01:07:03,210
have no clue. I'm sure Megan
Smith will bring in the right

1184
01:07:03,210 --> 01:07:06,000
people. She doesn't know those
people either. And with that,

1185
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,860
I'd like to thank you for your
courage and say in the morning

1186
01:07:07,860 --> 01:07:12,990
to you John C where the C stands
for Colonel cash Dvorak.

1187
01:07:13,259 --> 01:07:16,229
You're stretching your stretch I
am well in the morning to you

1188
01:07:16,229 --> 01:07:18,479
Adam curry. Also in the morning
all ships and sea boots on the

1189
01:07:18,479 --> 01:07:22,019
ground feet in the air subs in
the water. And all the Dames and

1190
01:07:22,019 --> 01:07:23,069
nights out there in the

1191
01:07:23,070 --> 01:07:26,100
morning everybody in the chat
room. No agenda stream.com As we

1192
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:29,730
can always hear the show live
Thursdays and Sundays at 9am Get

1193
01:07:29,730 --> 01:07:35,760
mo nation West time. And thank
you in the morning actually to

1194
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,170
our artists. Let's see we had
the artwork for episode 740 was

1195
01:07:40,170 --> 01:07:45,750
tasty but ours. What did he What
did he have for us? This was the

1196
01:07:45,780 --> 01:07:49,680
the episode was losers to lions
and it oh yes, it was the no

1197
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,250
agenda. ISIS lone wolf with the
current confederate flag in the

1198
01:07:53,250 --> 01:07:59,160
background. was quite nice. The
lone wolf the lone wolf.

1199
01:07:59,819 --> 01:08:05,069
Alright, let's get a few things
out there to start with. Oops,

1200
01:08:05,399 --> 01:08:10,319
spreadsheet this somebody wrote
a very long note. Restrain, we

1201
01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:14,639
did okay today because we had
three huge donors are nice. But

1202
01:08:14,639 --> 01:08:17,189
we didn't get a lot of smaller
donors, which kind of bothers me

1203
01:08:17,189 --> 01:08:19,409
that you always tell that by the
size of the spreadsheet, it was

1204
01:08:19,409 --> 01:08:21,689
actually not as long as it would
have been it should have been.

1205
01:08:21,959 --> 01:08:26,249
But let's thank our our patrons
and executive producers Patrick

1206
01:08:26,249 --> 01:08:31,289
Seymour and Clayton, Ohio 666
dot 66 With by donation for the

1207
01:08:31,289 --> 01:08:34,259
June 4 show I should complete my
knighthood I'd like to be known

1208
01:08:34,259 --> 01:08:39,449
as Sir Patrick of the enormous
noggins. Some you'd appreciate

1209
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:42,749
Yeah. And he wants a little
karma for the two of us to the

1210
01:08:42,749 --> 01:08:51,899
amazing hosts as he puts it. Oh
my god. You've got karma.

1211
01:08:53,429 --> 01:08:57,809
Somehow Kiki snuck in there.
Yeah, that happened. Eric Hall

1212
01:08:57,809 --> 01:09:03,389
brighter in South Ogden, Utah.
Thank you and apologies for this

1213
01:09:03,389 --> 01:09:08,249
being my first donation of 2015
It came with five five 5.48

1214
01:09:09,929 --> 01:09:12,299
which is not it's nice to come
in in middle of the year with a

1215
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:15,569
good number in my guilt and
appreciation. I believe I'm

1216
01:09:15,569 --> 01:09:18,479
finishing off my knighthood
please keep me honest. By I'm

1217
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,719
short, let me know and I'll make
it right. All I ask is that you

1218
01:09:21,719 --> 01:09:25,169
to keep on keeping on and shoot
a little karma my family's way

1219
01:09:25,169 --> 01:09:28,979
and to do the head for my next
IRS troubles.

1220
01:09:29,010 --> 01:09:31,890
Ah, don't put it out there like
man, don't put it out there.

1221
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:34,020
Just manifest that everything
will be fine.

1222
01:09:35,939 --> 01:09:42,119
You've got karma. And all kinds
of things going on today. Sir

1223
01:09:42,119 --> 01:09:48,299
Tom sonder came in from Mont
Stewart in Tasmania. By the

1224
01:09:48,299 --> 01:09:51,659
country that's largely known for
the popularization of the TCP IP

1225
01:09:51,659 --> 01:09:54,059
protocol for the Windows
machines. 500

1226
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:57,000
minute you can't just make a
statement like that without some

1227
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:57,780
explanation.

1228
01:09:57,990 --> 01:10:01,800
Yeah, the guy there was some guy
that was When TCP IP first

1229
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,300
appeared, and it was being

1230
01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:06,030
wasn't that confident or he'd
created Ethernet,

1231
01:10:07,170 --> 01:10:11,400
no TCP IP was created by all
these guys, including your buddy

1232
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,690
over there who just became MCI.
They went to Google. Yes, Vince

1233
01:10:15,690 --> 01:10:18,570
Vint Cerf, sir. Is a big pusher
of that. But there was

1234
01:10:18,570 --> 01:10:21,540
this kid and TCPIP might be
something one day.

1235
01:10:22,590 --> 01:10:25,320
Well, it was funny to watch. I
was going through a lot of trade

1236
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,110
shows during this transition.
And there's always a smooth

1237
01:10:28,110 --> 01:10:31,140
transition from what from Novell
networks or from

1238
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:34,620
chocolate. There was no
networking going on was like a

1239
01:10:34,650 --> 01:10:37,920
lot of token ring. Oh, token
ring. Yes. There's a bunch of

1240
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,830
crazy things going on. Net buoy.
There's a hole

1241
01:10:40,830 --> 01:10:43,920
man that was the bane of my
existence net buoy.

1242
01:10:44,130 --> 01:10:46,710
Well, whatever. There was a
bunch of the TCP IP was kind of

1243
01:10:46,710 --> 01:10:50,670
the leg or no it tag. Yeah,
nobody thought much about it. At

1244
01:10:50,670 --> 01:10:54,870
Twitter guy again, because it
was hard. That guy, it was hard

1245
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:58,380
to implement on especially on
Windows machines. And some guy I

1246
01:10:58,380 --> 01:11:01,680
wish I could remember his name
because I, we brought him over

1247
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:06,360
here and he honored him once and
he was the guy who simplified

1248
01:11:07,260 --> 01:11:11,790
the TCP IP stack. So it worked
effortless, effortlessly on

1249
01:11:11,790 --> 01:11:14,820
Windows. I think it was either
incorporated in or or developed

1250
01:11:14,820 --> 01:11:20,100
parallel to the BSD TCP IP
stack. That ring adopted and

1251
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:22,440
that's the one that was Robert
Kahn, was

1252
01:11:22,440 --> 01:11:25,620
that his name? Now? If you said
his name it remember it. That's

1253
01:11:25,620 --> 01:11:26,820
why savoured con,

1254
01:11:27,210 --> 01:11:30,330
maybe it was I don't think so.
But I don't remember his name at

1255
01:11:30,330 --> 01:11:31,260
the moment. He is He

1256
01:11:31,260 --> 01:11:35,160
is noted here. The book of
knowledge is led by Robert

1257
01:11:35,190 --> 01:11:36,690
Elliot, Bob calm.

1258
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:39,270
Oh, Tasmania,

1259
01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:45,060
let me say Tasmania is not found
on the page.

1260
01:11:45,180 --> 01:11:48,060
It gives a different guy. Okay,
there's a bunch of people that

1261
01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:51,180
ended up doing it. And the one
that finally one was the one

1262
01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:54,630
that developed through the
Berkeley vs. Linux, right?

1263
01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:58,110
Anyway, so there's a lot it's a
convoluted story. I just

1264
01:11:58,110 --> 01:11:58,860
mentioned it

1265
01:11:58,860 --> 01:12:01,680
casually. I didn't know about
the Tasmanian connection that's

1266
01:12:01,890 --> 01:12:04,680
that's the media connection. And
they probably have good

1267
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,860
networking there and everything
I'm sure just listening to show

1268
01:12:07,860 --> 01:12:13,320
740 rights Sir Tim, and was
appalled and slightly ashamed

1269
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,610
that you had one just one
producer. Yeah, we only had one

1270
01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:20,700
producer was bad was a bad day
it was 200 all or one producer

1271
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:24,540
so please accept my apology and
also my donation on a positive

1272
01:12:24,540 --> 01:12:28,380
note and his donation was $500
flat. My wife has finally seen

1273
01:12:28,380 --> 01:12:32,340
the light for months she's been
asking me why I'm so cynical and

1274
01:12:32,340 --> 01:12:35,370
negative. We're not trying to
make people cynical and negative

1275
01:12:35,370 --> 01:12:39,990
Oh, just cynical. I took a
mutual friend

1276
01:12:40,050 --> 01:12:43,290
the negative shit is on is on
you as your That's your problem.

1277
01:12:43,980 --> 01:12:47,640
I took a mutual friend is show
her a YouTube clip from Steve

1278
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:52,770
Hughes the heavy metal comedian
the heavy metal comedian

1279
01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:57,600
familiar with Steve here heard
her realize I'm not alone since

1280
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,780
she has listened to no agenda
and a few of our weekend trips

1281
01:13:00,780 --> 01:13:03,570
away by the end of the second
show she said you should send

1282
01:13:03,570 --> 01:13:09,990
those guys some money and change
your title Wow. So there's this

1283
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:12,840
donation gives me a second
knighthood I would request a

1284
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,930
title change to serve Tim have
the map of Tassie

1285
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:21,630
does your wife Sir Tim of
Tassie? Does your wife know that

1286
01:13:21,630 --> 01:13:25,080
she that you have to send in
photos of her to the show? When

1287
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,350
you change your title? I'm sure
she knows right? Pictures.

1288
01:13:28,590 --> 01:13:32,130
Cheerio. He says 30 psi Is it
wrong that my seven year old

1289
01:13:32,130 --> 01:13:36,120
daughter now calls her frenemies
at school douchebags

1290
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,200
Yes, another soul saved John

1291
01:13:41,700 --> 01:13:44,730
BPS no jingles requests just
says keep the show's gonna give

1292
01:13:44,730 --> 01:13:45,120
the guy some

1293
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:49,590
karma. Getting his wife turned
on. You've got karma so to

1294
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:49,950
speak.

1295
01:13:51,630 --> 01:13:55,140
All right. So now we have
someone who decided to write a

1296
01:13:55,140 --> 01:13:59,850
war in peace as their donation
no War and Peace Report. Eric

1297
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,430
oops. It's hard to keep keep
Yeah, The War and Peace Report

1298
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:08,880
from Hof Eric Hof in Edmonton
was donated $370 And I didn't

1299
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,540
get to this in time to edit it
down. But let's just I'll read

1300
01:14:12,540 --> 01:14:13,890
it. I'll read some of it.

1301
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,660
I'm happy people are supporting
us.

1302
01:14:16,020 --> 01:14:19,380
Yes. Well after last week for
sure. This donation completes my

1303
01:14:19,380 --> 01:14:21,720
knighthood is said to celebrate
my birthday on Saturday. So he's

1304
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,120
got a birthday check, isn't he?
He's got a birthday because blue

1305
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:29,340
and yellow. Sometimes we'll do.
We'll do is birthday Saturday,

1306
01:14:29,340 --> 01:14:32,850
Sunday, Saturday, July 25.
Lately, I've had a device on my

1307
01:14:32,850 --> 01:14:36,120
shoulder sort of like the one
the ISIS agents have except

1308
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:41,100
telling me to kill it to kill
it. Instead of telling me to

1309
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:44,250
kill it. Sorry. I'm reading this
called. Instead of telling me to

1310
01:14:44,250 --> 01:14:49,290
kill it. It's telling me to
donate. donate, donate. donate,

1311
01:14:49,290 --> 01:14:52,470
donate, donate little thing
little man on its shoulder. I'm

1312
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:55,110
very excited to finally be
knighted. I've been listening to

1313
01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:57,750
no agenda for a very long time.
Well, before to Episode 200 I

1314
01:14:57,750 --> 01:15:01,170
started listening to random old
preachers 100 episodes are fun

1315
01:15:01,170 --> 01:15:03,960
and ran into a few things I
forgot about, such as the

1316
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:09,360
embroidered no agenda Hema
underwear. Many of our schemes,

1317
01:15:09,929 --> 01:15:14,009
yet another money making idea
that went nowhere. The Hema

1318
01:15:14,010 --> 01:15:18,210
underwear and the nattering
nabobs of negativism is jarring

1319
01:15:18,210 --> 01:15:22,140
now to hear John saying things
like the fact of the matter. And

1320
01:15:22,170 --> 01:15:26,700
I don't say that very rarely say
fact of the matter I may have in

1321
01:15:26,700 --> 01:15:29,010
the past. Oh, I see. You're
hearing the old shows. And I

1322
01:15:29,010 --> 01:15:32,880
even caught Adam saying the
stock market glitched in both in

1323
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:34,230
episode one Oh, no,

1324
01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:38,610
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this
can't be true. This cannot be

1325
01:15:38,610 --> 01:15:38,940
true.

1326
01:15:40,830 --> 01:15:44,640
Go back to 104 and check it out.
Okay, you have to admit that

1327
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,600
after all the ranting, we do and
we do hearing Adam say

1328
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:53,460
something. glitched is now
pretty funny. We have corrected

1329
01:15:53,460 --> 01:15:56,100
most of these errors and
blunders and we've made people I

1330
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:58,590
think the coolest thing is that
we I could I know what happened

1331
01:15:58,590 --> 01:16:02,220
to me? We've made people so
aware of these phrases and these

1332
01:16:02,220 --> 01:16:06,330
usages like no Yeah, yeah. No.
Yeah. That you when you watch

1333
01:16:06,330 --> 01:16:07,410
TV, you just catch them

1334
01:16:07,710 --> 01:16:12,360
all the time all. And Erica Eric
is on the birthday list. He was

1335
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:13,890
on the list. But

1336
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:20,880
anyways, he says, I like show
207 and 200.7 and I love the

1337
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,970
interviews episode two. I don't
know that Apple say I don't know

1338
01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:27,570
that Apple saved AOL from going
bankrupt until that interview or

1339
01:16:27,570 --> 01:16:31,620
I didn't know. Yes, I actually
didn't know either. Skelly

1340
01:16:31,620 --> 01:16:38,760
always has some stuff to tell
us. Okay, where am I? Oh,

1341
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,700
squirrel news. You're good mon
nation audio publication. You

1342
01:16:41,700 --> 01:16:45,300
know what comes through from the
Stargate fish. Then what comes

1343
01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:48,840
through the climate gate climate
and the phone should be made out

1344
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,930
of Bakelite. Adam says this is
exactly like Atlas Shrugged John

1345
01:16:51,930 --> 01:16:55,800
groans chemtrails club 33 and
Raven Monsanto trains good

1346
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,580
plains bad fluoride, no agenda
swine flu minute of Chinese and

1347
01:16:59,580 --> 01:17:07,500
on and on. Can you read the rest
because I can't because I can't

1348
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:08,550
get that to stand.

1349
01:17:09,060 --> 01:17:14,610
Excuse me. The war between the
reptilians and tall blond aliens

1350
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,400
Adam quote No, really. This was
all in Atlas Shrugged. John

1351
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:21,060
quote, this is going to cost us
donations. cashless society

1352
01:17:21,060 --> 01:17:23,760
coming soon. First, Lance first
announced in 2009, you're

1353
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,270
stepping on my punch line. This
was even before show 100

1354
01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:32,190
Rubenesque women speaking Dutch,
because even in Dutch words

1355
01:17:32,190 --> 01:17:36,390
matter, divorce tax law, and of
course, mutton in Mead actually

1356
01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:38,100
reads this on the air. I'm
looking forward to hearing the

1357
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:41,520
voice he'll use. I'm gonna use
it. Pretty, pretty nice. Nice

1358
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,540
voice. So he will be knighted
sir. We'll code for coffee. And

1359
01:17:45,540 --> 01:17:47,730
he has also added to the
birthday list July 25. Now he

1360
01:17:47,730 --> 01:17:52,110
mentioned one of our many
schemes, the the HEMA underwear.

1361
01:17:52,140 --> 01:17:56,280
Yeah. Yeah, just I, you know,
I'm from the future. But I

1362
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:01,110
didn't expect the future to come
this quickly. I was saying,

1363
01:18:01,110 --> 01:18:05,310
though, that we're going to we
need an Uber for medicine. Well,

1364
01:18:05,310 --> 01:18:08,850
no sooner had I said it, and
everyone sends me like a day

1365
01:18:08,850 --> 01:18:13,500
later without it. Yeah. What is
the name of this app? I don't

1366
01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:17,280
think has a name, but that it's
an Uber like service. It's

1367
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,890
exactly it's exactly what I said
they should do. And here it is.

1368
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,550
We're going to have this for
everything. This is the model

1369
01:18:23,550 --> 01:18:26,880
Ford an Uber for absolutely
everything. You want to have

1370
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,890
someone clean your house,
there's going to be an Uber app

1371
01:18:28,890 --> 01:18:32,850
for that. One of our producers
is on the inside. And he said,

1372
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,540
Oh, you have no idea. Uber is so
doing this. They just want to be

1373
01:18:36,540 --> 01:18:39,510
the Uber for everything
connecting service at people

1374
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:43,320
that perform a service
middlemen, middlemen, yeah. And

1375
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,570
then taking the money in the big
in the middle and they will be

1376
01:18:45,570 --> 01:18:48,660
very successful with this. Their
infrastructure is beyond

1377
01:18:48,660 --> 01:18:55,470
compare. And of course, I got a
whole bunch of military people

1378
01:18:55,470 --> 01:18:59,610
on the board and all kinds of
insiders. So they're the chosen

1379
01:18:59,610 --> 01:19:00,120
ones.

1380
01:19:01,620 --> 01:19:09,000
Yeah, well, I'm glad me too. All
right. Onward. URL. Gene sheriff

1381
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:13,680
of Texas. Gene net Tullia $333
and cents. Good to have him

1382
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:18,330
back. claims as he's donating
from scrim Washington. In the

1383
01:19:18,510 --> 01:19:22,500
near the Ring of Fire. Here's
some money for him. Here's some

1384
01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:25,830
money for your summer doldrums.
Please promote my Kickstarter.

1385
01:19:26,460 --> 01:19:32,010
Okay. He's got some, okay. Yeah,
this is the URL HTTP blah blah,

1386
01:19:32,010 --> 01:19:40,680
blah. Small g small small g
small n dot small t small l

1387
01:19:40,710 --> 01:19:49,950
slash capital D capital M one.
Capital L. Small use small x.

1388
01:19:51,780 --> 01:19:54,750
Yes, this think of it Adam. You
have one apparently Yeah.

1389
01:19:54,750 --> 01:19:58,080
This is one of these card
holders that he makes them out

1390
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:03,180
of? Carbon fiber titanium. Am I
like it a lot? It's done. Did he

1391
01:20:03,180 --> 01:20:07,350
send you one? No, I'm pretty
sure he did. I don't remember.

1392
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:10,680
Well, it's very it's a very nice
product. I use it all the time

1393
01:20:10,710 --> 01:20:11,400
for my cards.

1394
01:20:11,580 --> 01:20:12,720
I don't remember seeing one

1395
01:20:13,260 --> 01:20:18,360
that's on karma karma karma.
You've got oh yeah harm karma.

1396
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:24,120
Thank you very much. Searching
the URL. URL gene Sheriff,

1397
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,410
Sheriff, Sheriff gene, Gene. And
finally, last but not least,

1398
01:20:28,740 --> 01:20:34,500
Associate Executive Producer
roles in Oscar shank $20 in one

1399
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:44,250
$20 in $1 in Castro comm column
which is in Holland, ITM pod

1400
01:20:44,250 --> 01:20:48,810
father and John C. D. Thanks for
what you do. I'm still broke but

1401
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:52,500
made a move last week to port to
Gaul. And after two years

1402
01:20:52,500 --> 01:20:57,840
counting seeds in Holland on my
way I crashed my car but got a

1403
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,890
rental to continue I almost lost
my eight surfboards on the roof.

1404
01:21:02,370 --> 01:21:08,070
No party times go into port
surfer as their their surfers

1405
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:09,360
there I didn't Holland. I didn't

1406
01:21:09,900 --> 01:21:14,760
move into Portugal. Some waves
there are some waves. They I

1407
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,480
think they either sold or they
have put up for sale that ghost

1408
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:22,890
airport in Portugal. The one
that no one lands at Yeah, I

1409
01:21:22,890 --> 01:21:25,680
read that that was in Spain. Oh,
maybe it was I'm sorry. I

1410
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,710
thought I think that goes to
airport was in Spain. Nice man.

1411
01:21:28,740 --> 01:21:29,160
I could be

1412
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,980
wrong Portuguese did I think
compared to the Spain's that two

1413
01:21:31,980 --> 01:21:34,740
countries decided to just rip
off the EU as best they could

1414
01:21:35,460 --> 01:21:38,160
build out and in fact, this
Spain built up some subway

1415
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:43,020
systems. I mean, there's a
subway system and in, in, like

1416
01:21:43,050 --> 01:21:46,230
in the Basque Country, and
what's the name of that was a

1417
01:21:46,230 --> 01:21:50,160
couple towns up there.
Fantastic. I mean, it's very

1418
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:54,090
modern, very cool. They got some
nice highways they put down in

1419
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:57,960
Spain, but but they also put up
big bank bills and they

1420
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,320
squandered a lot of their money,
including that airport. The

1421
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,660
Portuguese seem to just because
like you said, when you were

1422
01:22:03,660 --> 01:22:06,600
there was all dirt roads. And
now it's all anyways third world

1423
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,660
country. They've really
modernized the country. They

1424
01:22:09,660 --> 01:22:12,240
haven't hurt themselves
necessarily, even though they're

1425
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,200
broke. I told you about the

1426
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,390
time that I went to Portugal and
I was a superstar

1427
01:22:17,250 --> 01:22:18,570
would have been 20 years ago,

1428
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:23,760
longer, almost 30 years ago.
Wow. When they had no roads?

1429
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:29,790
Well, you're 19. I was 19 or 20.
And there was a consortium, the

1430
01:22:29,790 --> 01:22:32,400
satellite television was just
really taking off. And they had

1431
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,610
Europa TV, which is all the
public broadcasters of Europe.

1432
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:40,170
And you know, some multiple
contributed news. And then what

1433
01:22:40,170 --> 01:22:44,310
we did is an hour of music
videos every single day. And of

1434
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:47,940
course, this is pre email. So
people would we would solicit

1435
01:22:48,030 --> 01:22:52,980
postcards and letters, and I had
probably 25 At any given moment.

1436
01:22:52,980 --> 01:22:58,620
25 full mail sacks bins, but
mail sides like Canvas, burlap

1437
01:22:58,620 --> 01:23:03,540
bags, it was mail. Yeah. And
that the time Portugal was a

1438
01:23:03,540 --> 01:23:07,020
complete third world country
that everything was a mess. And

1439
01:23:07,020 --> 01:23:10,140
what they were doing is they
were taking the integral, the

1440
01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:12,930
Europa TV signal and
rebroadcasting it on the

1441
01:23:12,930 --> 01:23:16,320
terrestrial RTP. Two, they only
had two stations. And they

1442
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,380
certainly had no music videos.
So all of a sudden, there I am

1443
01:23:19,380 --> 01:23:22,200
playing music videos, and I'm
reading you know, there's a six

1444
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:28,140
foot four, blonde guy blue eyes
kind of reading their mail. So

1445
01:23:28,170 --> 01:23:30,630
we knew that there was a good
market for us. So we decided to

1446
01:23:30,630 --> 01:23:33,270
go, you know, go to around the
country. And it was of course in

1447
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:37,530
conjunction with tap the
tourists Association Portugal's

1448
01:23:37,530 --> 01:23:41,250
so it's all in bid. Someone was
getting paid for it, not me. And

1449
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,830
we land and we at the time we
had CarNet you remember the

1450
01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:47,370
CarNet? If you wanted to improve
know, if you had camera gear and

1451
01:23:47,370 --> 01:23:50,310
you're going into a country, you
had all this documentation,

1452
01:23:50,340 --> 01:23:50,880
though, right?

1453
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,910
Because the contract had to
bring we went to Europe in the

1454
01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:58,170
early days, the early days for
23 years ago, you had to bring

1455
01:23:58,170 --> 01:24:00,630
all this documentation that you
own the camera.

1456
01:24:01,860 --> 01:24:04,350
That's right. So then you had to
clear it because

1457
01:24:04,769 --> 01:24:07,319
Because apparently you could buy
the cameras cheap. This is all

1458
01:24:07,349 --> 01:24:11,819
part of fair trade. That you
it's like, Where'd you get that

1459
01:24:11,819 --> 01:24:14,849
camera? You bought it over here
because it was cheaper. And you

1460
01:24:14,849 --> 01:24:17,459
couldn't get gouged the United
States The United States was all

1461
01:24:17,459 --> 01:24:19,679
about gouging especially in the
70s

1462
01:24:20,430 --> 01:24:24,060
so we're doing the CarNet or
Carnegie think it's from

1463
01:24:24,510 --> 01:24:29,130
Carnegie and the here this noise
and I can't place it it's like

1464
01:24:29,130 --> 01:24:32,730
something was dragging on the
baggage carousel. I couldn't

1465
01:24:32,730 --> 01:24:36,210
quite play but everyone heard it
was like this, like some swarm

1466
01:24:36,210 --> 01:24:39,180
of birds or something. And then
we'd go through customs, the

1467
01:24:39,180 --> 01:24:44,790
sliding doors, which are milky
glass open up and there's 5000

1468
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:50,670
kids waiting for me. It was
insane. Did you sign autographs?

1469
01:24:51,420 --> 01:24:55,320
They were hanging on we had a
van like a Renault espouse van

1470
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:59,040
and they were hanging on the van
as we're driving. They were they

1471
01:24:59,040 --> 01:24:59,220
were

1472
01:24:59,250 --> 01:25:02,310
inefficiency. grab you and strip
your clothes off and then beat

1473
01:25:02,310 --> 01:25:02,970
the crap out. So

1474
01:25:02,970 --> 01:25:07,110
here's the kicker. I would say
jokingly, you know, I'm pretty

1475
01:25:07,110 --> 01:25:09,780
much the same guy I was when I
was 19 instead of you know, send

1476
01:25:09,780 --> 01:25:12,180
some pictures, although I
frequently solicited naked

1477
01:25:12,180 --> 01:25:15,420
pictures and received them. But
I would say hey, you know, give

1478
01:25:15,420 --> 01:25:18,180
me a Lamborghini for some reason
I thought get a Lamborghini was

1479
01:25:18,180 --> 01:25:21,120
a cool car. And I have I'll take
a picture. I'll put it in the

1480
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:25,110
show notes. I have front page
articles from the copy tile

1481
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:34,350
newspaper with girls giving the
Lamborghinis what Yeah, they

1482
01:25:34,350 --> 01:25:36,300
were there they had the
Lamborghinis gift say here's the

1483
01:25:36,300 --> 01:25:41,610
keys to the beginning Wow Yeah.
Did you take any of our Of

1484
01:25:41,610 --> 01:25:48,840
course not. Oh, no, no no. I
didn't even have sex with any of

1485
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,120
them was how stupid I was.

1486
01:25:52,260 --> 01:25:55,410
Moron felon get any money for
this gig fell

1487
01:25:55,410 --> 01:25:59,340
in love early no money for the
gig. No Lamborghini, no, no bang

1488
01:25:59,340 --> 01:26:04,500
and I didn't have an agent.
That's the problem. Yeah, if

1489
01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:07,020
only I'd known you then Devorah
boy in my life

1490
01:26:07,260 --> 01:26:09,600
would have been able to help my
child to take the Lamborghini

1491
01:26:10,350 --> 01:26:11,310
that had been my fee.

1492
01:26:12,210 --> 01:26:15,270
Alright, we're done with with
our that's I want to remind

1493
01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:17,010
people we do have a show coming
up on Sunday. We have a lot of

1494
01:26:17,010 --> 01:26:19,530
good stuff that's going to be
produced for that and then

1495
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,850
divorce.org/na So that's it.
This was a good good opening

1496
01:26:24,030 --> 01:26:27,330
salvo rest of this not as good
but this was at least helped.

1497
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,850
And then a quick PR mentioned
from Sir Ramsey Kane in the

1498
01:26:29,850 --> 01:26:33,540
morning. The new no agenda CD is
out. You can find that no agenda

1499
01:26:33,540 --> 01:26:37,020
cd.com The new disc is called
Tech horny. And it's

1500
01:26:37,020 --> 01:26:40,920
specifically geared towards
dudes named Ben. Bill. It's not

1501
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,160
the dude's name. Ben I'm going
to ship 400 CDs to my hotel in

1502
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,070
Las Vegas and hand them out a
DEF CON good man.

1503
01:26:47,340 --> 01:26:48,570
So yes, that's great. This

1504
01:26:48,570 --> 01:26:51,720
is the this is the guy who knows
what he's doing. The next few

1505
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,420
days we'll also have a more
traditional NAC development on

1506
01:26:54,420 --> 01:26:57,450
the ship some of those as well
and hand them out on the Strip.

1507
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,650
You should put a like Simon
hooker with a phone Yes, I'm

1508
01:27:01,650 --> 01:27:02,430
one of those girls.

1509
01:27:03,330 --> 01:27:06,210
Yeah, I'll take that CD. I
figured that

1510
01:27:06,660 --> 01:27:09,960
I would do yeah put some hottie
on there with a number

1511
01:27:10,110 --> 01:27:13,860
was a phone number double Oh
23457 or nine that's my

1512
01:27:14,220 --> 01:27:16,590
net if you put in the browser go
to the no agenda show.

1513
01:27:17,130 --> 01:27:19,170
I figured the NA meetup
attendees can put there no

1514
01:27:19,170 --> 01:27:21,840
agenda shirts on and join me on
the Las Vegas Strip to hand out

1515
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:23,940
CDs to pastor buys Planned
Parenthood.

1516
01:27:23,940 --> 01:27:25,710
I went photos I well. Yes,

1517
01:27:25,740 --> 01:27:27,930
newsletter Planned Parenthood
style. I

1518
01:27:27,930 --> 01:27:30,600
like them to do this. I want to
I want pictures in the

1519
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:31,530
newsletter it should be

1520
01:27:31,590 --> 01:27:36,030
should be the no agenda, face to
face marketing team. And when

1521
01:27:36,030 --> 01:27:39,240
someone walks by you stick out
your hand and go Hi, in the

1522
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:44,190
morning, in the morning, stick
your hand out and then then real

1523
01:27:44,190 --> 01:27:47,160
women so Ramsey can't be the way
to do it. Who ends with his hail

1524
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,190
apple. Thank you very much, sir
Ramsey, you are a true gentleman

1525
01:27:50,190 --> 01:27:54,870
amongst the service
vorak.org/and. Of course, while

1526
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:56,760
you're out there, you might as
well do the very important work

1527
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,470
of propagating the formula.

1528
01:27:58,710 --> 01:28:03,420
Our formula is this. We go out.
We hit people in the mouth

1529
01:28:18,150 --> 01:28:25,590
okay, I Adam curry. And as of
today, officially, officially

1530
01:28:25,770 --> 01:28:31,320
announcing my full support, my
endorsements, my coveted

1531
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,380
endorsement, and you know that
my endorsement is coveted. I

1532
01:28:34,380 --> 01:28:38,400
didn't know that it is my
coveted endorsement for Donald

1533
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:39,990
Trump, for a

1534
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:46,140
Republican candidate for the
presidency of the United States

1535
01:28:46,140 --> 01:28:46,590
of America.

1536
01:28:47,519 --> 01:28:51,479
Well, I will say that I would
like to see Donald Trump but

1537
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:55,079
continue his quest because I
have a lot of clips. So do I.

1538
01:28:55,769 --> 01:29:00,149
And I want to make sure that he
gets his fair share of because I

1539
01:29:00,149 --> 01:29:03,539
don't think they're giving him
enough attention. i He's got

1540
01:29:03,539 --> 01:29:06,329
good things. He's got good
ideas. Now the irony of Donald

1541
01:29:06,329 --> 01:29:07,649
Trump that I think a lot I can
just say

1542
01:29:07,650 --> 01:29:10,200
one thing, you just you just
kind of step over my

1543
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,710
announcement like it's nothing
this is a big deal. I have the

1544
01:29:13,710 --> 01:29:16,410
phrase as far as I know, I am
the first media personality to

1545
01:29:16,410 --> 01:29:19,950
endorse Donald Trump for
president. I will go as far I

1546
01:29:19,950 --> 01:29:23,460
will say that I want this guy to
be president so bad. I will

1547
01:29:23,460 --> 01:29:28,200
register as a Republican and if
they said do I have to can I

1548
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,180
vote for him just as an
independent I'm registered and

1549
01:29:30,180 --> 01:29:30,630
depends on

1550
01:29:30,630 --> 01:29:32,760
the way you're stateside if
you're if you're an independent,

1551
01:29:32,970 --> 01:29:35,520
the states are adult do things
differently. For example, in

1552
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:40,470
California, when I go to vote in
a primary as an independent, I

1553
01:29:40,470 --> 01:29:43,740
am given the choice of taking
the independent ballot which has

1554
01:29:43,740 --> 01:29:48,450
got nobody on it or the Democrat
ballot. The Republican Party in

1555
01:29:48,450 --> 01:29:51,360
California has refused to let
the independence vote on their

1556
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,840
ticket. So you had to find out
what what the rules are in your

1557
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:59,460
state. Okay. Generally speaking
up against are more fearful that

1558
01:29:59,700 --> 01:30:01,860
you independents are
troublemakers I'm

1559
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,640
I am I am voting for Donald
Trump. I think this guy is

1560
01:30:05,700 --> 01:30:09,210
exactly what we need. He is
saying all the right he is in

1561
01:30:09,210 --> 01:30:12,390
fact, I know you have. I know
you've clips. I just wanted to

1562
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:15,150
play one clip to start off with.
And I'll get to mine after that,

1563
01:30:15,210 --> 01:30:20,250
since I announced the topic. He
is all in all in John, on your

1564
01:30:20,250 --> 01:30:24,300
theory for the Middle East. So
this is why he has to he will be

1565
01:30:24,570 --> 01:30:28,050
he will receive so much support,
because this is exactly what the

1566
01:30:28,050 --> 01:30:32,220
military industrial complex the
Big Oil complex with all these

1567
01:30:32,220 --> 01:30:35,160
guys want is Donald Trump's
message. I want to

1568
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,440
ask you about ISIS. You said
nobody would be tougher on ISIS

1569
01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:40,020
than Donald Trump's visit.
Nobody specifically what would

1570
01:30:40,020 --> 01:30:40,830
be your strategy,

1571
01:30:40,950 --> 01:30:46,080
the situation with ISIS has to
be dealt firmly and strongly

1572
01:30:46,290 --> 01:30:49,680
when you have people being
beheaded. I would love that to

1573
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,410
be over there. That's not our
fight. That's other people's

1574
01:30:52,410 --> 01:30:55,050
fights. It's a revolutions.
That's whatever you want to call

1575
01:30:55,050 --> 01:30:58,890
it, the religious wars, I would
do things that would be so

1576
01:30:58,890 --> 01:31:03,060
tough, that I don't even know if
they'd be around to come to the

1577
01:31:03,060 --> 01:31:06,180
table sort of things, though. I
would take away that wealth, I

1578
01:31:06,180 --> 01:31:09,900
would take away the oil you
should be doing now is taking

1579
01:31:09,930 --> 01:31:12,330
away the oil. Does that mean
bomb the hell? And I'll tell you

1580
01:31:12,330 --> 01:31:17,790
what I hate about this about
this question. If I win, if I

1581
01:31:17,790 --> 01:31:20,940
win, I didn't want to answer
this question. And I thought

1582
01:31:20,940 --> 01:31:24,240
maybe I could go without answer.
Because if you look at the Great

1583
01:31:24,270 --> 01:31:27,540
General George Patton, or
General MacArthur was a big fan

1584
01:31:27,540 --> 01:31:30,570
of or any of these greats. They
didn't talk about what they did.

1585
01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:33,420
And I said, I hate it. In fact,
if you remember when I said I

1586
01:31:33,420 --> 01:31:35,640
have a plan, but I don't want to
talk about it. Problem is

1587
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,130
everyone said, Oh, he really
doesn't have a plan. Okay, so I

1588
01:31:38,130 --> 01:31:41,310
had to do it. But I hate talking
about it. Because if I when they

1589
01:31:41,310 --> 01:31:44,790
know I'm gonna do it fight when
I would attack those oil sites

1590
01:31:44,820 --> 01:31:48,870
that are controlled and owned by
OSA owned. They're controlled by

1591
01:31:48,870 --> 01:31:52,770
ISIS. They're taking tremendous
money. They are renovating a

1592
01:31:52,770 --> 01:31:54,030
hotel in Iraq. Can you

1593
01:31:54,030 --> 01:31:56,670
believe it? Would you be
destroying the wealth of Iraq?

1594
01:31:56,700 --> 01:31:57,360
No, no,

1595
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,780
let me give there is no Iraq,
there is no wreck their

1596
01:32:00,810 --> 01:32:03,690
leaders are correct differ which
is I think that's he's very

1597
01:32:03,690 --> 01:32:05,220
smart. What he's saying about
that is there are

1598
01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:08,040
no Iraqis, they've broken up
into so many different factions,

1599
01:32:08,610 --> 01:32:11,610
like bombing Iraqi oil fields,
which are now in the control of

1600
01:32:11,610 --> 01:32:15,510
ISIS. But bombing Iraqi oil is
going to anger huge numbers of

1601
01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:15,810
people.

1602
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,080
I would the hell out of those
oil fields. I wouldn't send many

1603
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,060
ships because you won't need
them. By the time I got

1604
01:32:21,060 --> 01:32:24,180
finished. I bombed the hell out
of the oil fields. I didn't get

1605
01:32:24,180 --> 01:32:27,450
Exxon didn't get these great oil
companies to go in. They would

1606
01:32:27,450 --> 01:32:31,050
rebuild them so fast. Your head
will spin us true. Excuse me.

1607
01:32:31,140 --> 01:32:34,260
You have a CFS they put up rigs
these guys are unbelievable. So

1608
01:32:34,260 --> 01:32:37,380
I go Exxon Mobil I go the top
five oil companies, they'd be in

1609
01:32:37,380 --> 01:32:40,230
there, they'd be finished so
fast. And you need US troops to

1610
01:32:40,230 --> 01:32:43,200
protect the oil company. Yes,
you put a ring around them. You

1611
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:46,800
put a ring, you just take a ring
of fire away. This is what

1612
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,470
should be done. But no
politician is going to do that.

1613
01:32:49,470 --> 01:32:49,920
bomb

1614
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,400
them, bomb them and bomb them
again.

1615
01:32:53,520 --> 01:33:00,150
Ladies and gentlemen. It is time
to love this guy.

1616
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,530
Well, they're out to get him.

1617
01:33:05,430 --> 01:33:08,490
Yeah, he's because he's talking
sense and people are enjoying

1618
01:33:08,490 --> 01:33:10,380
it. They are enjoying it.

1619
01:33:10,590 --> 01:33:13,620
They're enjoying it a lot. And
the thing that the thing that

1620
01:33:13,620 --> 01:33:17,850
was the big you know, every time
he says something that they're

1621
01:33:17,850 --> 01:33:21,510
all these pundits, oh, well,
that's it. He's done. We've seen

1622
01:33:21,510 --> 01:33:24,660
peak Trump. numbers go up.

1623
01:33:24,690 --> 01:33:27,330
That's a good and write that
down peak Trump peak Trump,

1624
01:33:27,870 --> 01:33:30,810
right? Yeah, yeah. Every single
time the he says something. Oh,

1625
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:35,340
well, the Evangelicals will hate
him now. No, yeah. Because

1626
01:33:35,340 --> 01:33:39,180
he's the Yeah, he in fact, one
of the pollsters came on says he

1627
01:33:39,180 --> 01:33:42,300
can't win because he's not an
evangelical because apparently

1628
01:33:42,300 --> 01:33:45,360
if you're a Republican you have
to be and you can run because he

1629
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,540
because he's worked all the
veterans because he condemned

1630
01:33:48,540 --> 01:33:51,960
McCain, who we've always
believed is a douchebag. He's a

1631
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:52,710
war monger.

1632
01:33:52,740 --> 01:33:56,910
You know what's funny about the
McCain things, Donald Trump said

1633
01:33:56,910 --> 01:34:00,990
he's not a war hero. He got
captured. He was captured right?

1634
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:05,250
Yeah, I mean, everyone's Oh,
what an ale Boy, this guy and

1635
01:34:05,250 --> 01:34:11,220
even here. In fact, most of this
is left. Left media left his

1636
01:34:11,220 --> 01:34:15,030
media Democrat Democrats.
They're all say, Oh, well, what

1637
01:34:15,030 --> 01:34:18,960
a horrible thing to say yet.
When Chris Rock says it, it's

1638
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:19,920
funny. McCain has

1639
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:23,370
got that old story. Smartphones
have been telling the same story

1640
01:34:23,490 --> 01:34:25,350
before the fucking years.

1641
01:34:26,309 --> 01:34:32,339
He's a war hero. Be a war hero.
Feel war hero that got captured.

1642
01:34:36,389 --> 01:34:38,459
A lot of guys in jail. They got
cancer.

1643
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:52,560
Exactly. And then they're all
gone. Donald Trump says what an

1644
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:56,790
eight hole What a douche bag.
Come on people. You're full of

1645
01:34:56,790 --> 01:34:57,150
it.

1646
01:34:58,050 --> 01:35:00,720
So let's listen to CNN
International. on Trump,

1647
01:35:01,470 --> 01:35:05,490
CNN International Jozy? Yeah,

1648
01:35:05,820 --> 01:35:08,190
but it's gonna do everybody's
collective consciousness. And in

1649
01:35:08,190 --> 01:35:11,430
a way, I actually see this as a
positive thing because I think

1650
01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:14,640
this is really the beginning of
the end of Donald Trump saw this

1651
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:18,180
morning on CNN, Chris Cuomo did
something remarkable. He asked

1652
01:35:18,180 --> 01:35:21,240
about substantive policy issues
on the Veterans Administration

1653
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,940
and reform that we need. Their
Donald Trump spokesman was

1654
01:35:23,940 --> 01:35:25,710
unable to answer any of those
questions because they don't

1655
01:35:25,710 --> 01:35:28,110
have answers on anything that
substantive. He's not a

1656
01:35:28,110 --> 01:35:30,810
candidate. He's more of a
professional wrestler trying to

1657
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:35,040
evoke and elicit a reaction from
the crowd provoke a reaction

1658
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,840
from the ground and that's what
he's doing so far.

1659
01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:39,690
Did you notice that Huffington
Post puts all Donald Trump news

1660
01:35:39,690 --> 01:35:42,030
on the entertainment section of
the website? Very

1661
01:35:43,110 --> 01:35:43,680
disappointed.

1662
01:35:44,460 --> 01:35:46,470
That's objective coverage? Of
course,

1663
01:35:46,470 --> 01:35:51,690
of course, the and I looked at
his at his financials, 92 pages

1664
01:35:51,690 --> 01:35:58,830
of his holdings. He's building a
hotel in Baku, Azerbaijan. Okay.

1665
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,950
We know who's going to be
winning if he's president. We

1666
01:36:01,950 --> 01:36:03,120
will mark up

1667
01:36:03,150 --> 01:36:05,520
the folks on the Kings Road and
Canary Wharf has as much

1668
01:36:05,670 --> 01:36:08,670
exposure to Donald Trump. I hope
I was hoping they'd be luckier

1669
01:36:08,670 --> 01:36:09,300
than we were.

1670
01:36:09,330 --> 01:36:12,570
No, well, let me tell you he is
known also because the US

1671
01:36:12,570 --> 01:36:16,200
version of The Apprentice aired
here in the UK, I was told and

1672
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,860
of course, he's known because he
makes himself known. He's active

1673
01:36:19,860 --> 01:36:22,770
on Twitter. He says
controversial things. But you

1674
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:27,120
tweeted something. Doug, you
said, understand how Trump can

1675
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,990
hurt the GOP field. But why not
a media that pride but why not a

1676
01:36:30,990 --> 01:36:35,100
media that privately laughs at
Trump yet covers him ad nauseam.

1677
01:36:35,370 --> 01:36:37,560
But you have to cover the
candidate who's leading the

1678
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:40,680
polls, don't you? I mean,
Trump's at 18% in the latest Fox

1679
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:41,430
News poll.

1680
01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:44,760
Oh, absolutely. It certainly
warrants coverage. What I found

1681
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,310
troubling is, when you're in
newsrooms, you'll talk to people

1682
01:36:47,310 --> 01:36:50,220
who you know, don't take it
seriously. And then cover it,

1683
01:36:50,250 --> 01:36:52,650
then ask the question, then ask
the next question. And what

1684
01:36:52,650 --> 01:36:54,720
we've seen and be, you know,
appearing with you right now,

1685
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,330
I'm obviously guilty of it, too.
What we've seen is just an

1686
01:36:57,330 --> 01:37:00,390
exhaustive coverage of this.
It's all Trump all the time.

1687
01:37:00,420 --> 01:37:04,020
Yeah. So if you're Marco Rubio,
and you gave a education speech

1688
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,320
in Chicago a couple of weeks
ago, that didn't get in any as

1689
01:37:07,530 --> 01:37:10,020
tension as it should have, if
you're Rick Perry, and you spoke

1690
01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:12,600
on race, right, as the
Confederate flag issue was

1691
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:16,680
really heated up in South
Carolina, that didn't get the

1692
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,260
attention to deserve and so what
we're losing is the real

1693
01:37:19,260 --> 01:37:22,050
substantive issues that voters
need to learn about, because

1694
01:37:22,050 --> 01:37:25,260
we're hearing nothing but
bluster and insults from one one

1695
01:37:25,260 --> 01:37:26,130
part of a sideshow,

1696
01:37:26,190 --> 01:37:30,600
nah, here and now I'll do a
clip. This is all from his

1697
01:37:30,660 --> 01:37:34,530
Anderson Cooper interviewed him.
The and it was found to be a

1698
01:37:34,530 --> 01:37:39,270
fantastic interview. This is the
Trump is you just got to

1699
01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:42,120
appreciate this guy from a no
agenda standpoint, when he says

1700
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:42,510
this

1701
01:37:42,900 --> 01:37:44,250
general voter, I don't know, you
keep

1702
01:37:44,250 --> 01:37:46,560
bringing up negative you only
want to talk about negative, why

1703
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,820
don't you bring up the positive?
I did. Start off you start off

1704
01:37:50,820 --> 01:37:53,610
with the interview I started off
with. You started off the

1705
01:37:53,610 --> 01:37:55,560
interview with a poll that I
didn't even know I just started

1706
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,950
off with a Washington Post poll
intentionally. You would accuse

1707
01:37:58,950 --> 01:38:02,700
me that all I know, as every
poll, I'm leaving, and you give

1708
01:38:02,700 --> 01:38:05,250
me these two polls where it's
different states. They're not

1709
01:38:05,250 --> 01:38:09,150
even a national check the record
I started where you are way out.

1710
01:38:09,150 --> 01:38:11,160
And I think it's very
interesting. It took me a poll,

1711
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:16,080
I never even saw you today. It's
really it's on three different

1712
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,270
states. And you're hitting me
with this. And I think it's a

1713
01:38:18,270 --> 01:38:21,600
very frankly, I think it's a
very fair question. I think it's

1714
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:25,140
an extremely, you started off
the interview with that. You

1715
01:38:25,140 --> 01:38:29,430
don't say, I lead in the fox
poll. I'm leading in the ABC,

1716
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:32,670
Washington Post, across the
board, but I am leading across

1717
01:38:32,670 --> 01:38:34,950
the board. And then you hit me
with this poll that I didn't

1718
01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:37,770
even see before where, oh, gee,
it's not even that kind of a

1719
01:38:37,770 --> 01:38:42,210
poll. All I know is I have a
very big group of support. And I

1720
01:38:42,210 --> 01:38:45,300
think one of the reasons is
that's your way, the people

1721
01:38:45,300 --> 01:38:48,570
don't trust you. And the people
don't trust the media. And I

1722
01:38:48,570 --> 01:38:48,960
understand.

1723
01:38:49,500 --> 01:38:53,130
I love our hands and goes right.
The people don't trust you said,

1724
01:38:53,130 --> 01:38:55,290
right. Right. You know, I've

1725
01:38:55,290 --> 01:38:57,210
always been covered fairly
accurately because it was

1726
01:38:57,210 --> 01:38:58,530
usually a financial press.

1727
01:38:59,100 --> 01:39:03,330
I believe Cooper said right was
even listening. The people don't

1728
01:39:03,330 --> 01:39:07,230
trust you, Anderson Cooper. I
love that. Come on. This guy is

1729
01:39:07,230 --> 01:39:12,780
great. This guy's you know, this
guy hits your Putin, Snowden

1730
01:39:12,780 --> 01:39:13,530
meme even

1731
01:39:13,860 --> 01:39:17,640
as an Eric, here comes, you
know, the previous guy mentioned

1732
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:21,600
Rubio, so that's Mr. Rubio is
all in on Trump hating. And

1733
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,480
Rubio just seems like such a
little weenie because when he

1734
01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:27,720
does this, it's like Cruz, at
least, you know, Cruz seems to

1735
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:31,440
have a clue. Yeah, he's smiles
and he's out. He says I don't

1736
01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:34,410
die. I'm not saying nothing.
Right. But no, Rubio has been

1737
01:39:34,410 --> 01:39:36,780
sending as a hitman. That's a
double

1738
01:39:36,780 --> 01:39:37,290
negative.

1739
01:39:38,460 --> 01:39:39,840
But that would be Cruz.

1740
01:39:40,140 --> 01:39:41,790
Does he say I'm not saying
nothing?

1741
01:39:42,030 --> 01:39:46,350
I'm not saying nothing. No, I
didn't realize so this is Rubio

1742
01:39:46,350 --> 01:39:51,120
one this is because his Rubio
one okay. This is him. I think

1743
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,450
he's seated down. He just
doesn't seem presidential in any

1744
01:39:54,450 --> 01:39:56,790
way. And he just and this play
it.

1745
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:00,000
Joining us now Senator Marco
Rubio, Republican from Florida.

1746
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,440
2016 that is

1747
01:40:01,500 --> 01:40:04,740
this is this is a two box he's
not sitting down in this one.

1748
01:40:04,830 --> 01:40:08,730
Okay. Thanks for clarifying.
It's important for the audio

1749
01:40:08,730 --> 01:40:11,670
that you know it's a two box.
It's a twofer. Joining us

1750
01:40:11,670 --> 01:40:15,240
now Senator Marco Rubio,
Republican from Florida, 2016

1751
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:18,000
nominee. Thank you so much for
joining us. Senator. I know

1752
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,700
you've heard these comments from
Donald Trump. Governor Perry

1753
01:40:20,700 --> 01:40:24,360
says these comments disqualify
Trump to be commander in chief.

1754
01:40:24,540 --> 01:40:25,290
Do you agree?

1755
01:40:25,770 --> 01:40:29,130
I do agree. This is not just an
insult to John McCain, who

1756
01:40:29,130 --> 01:40:32,370
clearly is a war hero and a
great man. But it's an insult to

1757
01:40:32,370 --> 01:40:35,400
all POWs to all men and women
who have served us in uniform

1758
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:35,760
that

1759
01:40:35,790 --> 01:40:39,600
they'll do anything do they're
so afraid of this is? Of course

1760
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,050
not. No. But they'll do
anything. They're so afraid of

1761
01:40:43,050 --> 01:40:44,460
this guy. I love him.

1762
01:40:44,460 --> 01:40:47,520
I've been captured in battle.
And this somehow makes the

1763
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,630
assumption or he saying that
somehow of your captured in

1764
01:40:51,630 --> 01:40:54,600
battle, you're less worthy of
honors than someone who isn't.

1765
01:40:54,660 --> 01:40:57,720
It's not just absurd. It's
offensive. It's ridiculous.

1766
01:40:57,750 --> 01:41:00,600
Yeah. And I do think he has a
disqualifiers command

1767
01:41:00,870 --> 01:41:03,810
disqualifying? Is it
disqualifying? Is it in the

1768
01:41:03,810 --> 01:41:06,840
Constitution, guys, a big
constitutionalist

1769
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:10,530
constitutionalist. Now, this is
disqualifying.

1770
01:41:10,530 --> 01:41:13,530
And when Chris Rock says that
it's okay. I'm hilarious. But

1771
01:41:13,530 --> 01:41:16,290
when Donald Trump says it's
disqualifying to be president,

1772
01:41:16,410 --> 01:41:19,020
please now here's the other one.
This is the one that got me the

1773
01:41:19,020 --> 01:41:22,290
most. This is Rubio, this is
number two. And he they bring

1774
01:41:22,290 --> 01:41:23,670
Hillary in. Now some

1775
01:41:23,670 --> 01:41:26,070
Democrats, including Hillary
Clinton have criticized you and

1776
01:41:26,070 --> 01:41:29,130
your fellow Republican
candidates for not speaking out

1777
01:41:29,130 --> 01:41:32,040
more forcefully and more quickly
after Trump's comments about

1778
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,680
undocumented immigrants. They
wonder why this Firestorm about

1779
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:38,670
McCain and not a firestorm about
Mexicans? Well, there was

1780
01:41:38,670 --> 01:41:41,460
I spoke out against what Donald
Trump said.

1781
01:41:43,230 --> 01:41:47,010
Okay, so that was that's kind of
cut it short, because what all I

1782
01:41:47,010 --> 01:41:50,370
wanted to kind of point I wanted
to make is, why doesn't he say,

1783
01:41:50,550 --> 01:41:55,170
What business is it of
Hillary's? Why are we responding

1784
01:41:55,170 --> 01:41:58,470
to what Hillary says he should
have? When did Hillary define

1785
01:41:58,470 --> 01:42:01,410
the debate? What's Hillary got
to do with that

1786
01:42:01,440 --> 01:42:04,500
is a disqualifying statement
right there. You can't run on

1787
01:42:04,500 --> 01:42:07,920
the Republican ticket if you're
if you're allowing your entire

1788
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:11,850
messaging to be hijacked by a
Democrat, don't ya? No way.

1789
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:14,730
That No, he's right into it.
Now. Now, the thing I noticed

1790
01:42:14,730 --> 01:42:17,160
that I had a bunch of clips of
Aruba. He's just a weenie. He's

1791
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:21,180
horrible. I had a lot of respect
for him when he ran a tea party

1792
01:42:21,180 --> 01:42:24,060
guy now I lost all respect for
him. All right. I think he's a

1793
01:42:24,060 --> 01:42:26,730
complete loser. He's got you
shouldn't even be running. He's

1794
01:42:26,730 --> 01:42:29,910
just acts like a kid. When they
when he goes on camera. They

1795
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:32,640
have the two shot they have the
two box and he's over there

1796
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:36,900
sitting there with a really
forced smile. Some consultant

1797
01:42:36,900 --> 01:42:39,990
told him to smile more because
the consultant if you go work

1798
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:43,200
with any media consultants, they
always tell you to do this,

1799
01:42:43,230 --> 01:42:46,770
which Trump doesn't use, by the
way. No, he uses no consultants.

1800
01:42:47,580 --> 01:42:51,120
And that's why people like him.
So the consultants, any media

1801
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,490
consultant working with any and
they always hire him at every

1802
01:42:53,490 --> 01:42:56,910
operation. The thing is, you're
not smiling and that you don't

1803
01:42:56,910 --> 01:42:59,940
look like you want to be here,
which in my case, it was always

1804
01:42:59,940 --> 01:43:03,540
Yeah, I don't Well, you should
make fake it and smile. Boy,

1805
01:43:03,540 --> 01:43:04,830
she's smiling. So

1806
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:10,170
before you continue, which is
exactly why I think people one

1807
01:43:10,170 --> 01:43:13,500
of the reasons why people like
the no agenda show is we just

1808
01:43:13,530 --> 01:43:18,030
are not politically correct. And
these guys are managed their

1809
01:43:18,030 --> 01:43:21,450
style, their craft, and they're
incredibly politically correct,

1810
01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:25,140
because they believe for some
reason the American people are

1811
01:43:25,170 --> 01:43:27,990
well, of course, they are
brainwashed into being this way,

1812
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:32,370
but underneath it, underneath
all of that we want to fucking

1813
01:43:32,370 --> 01:43:36,360
win. We want to win the world.
And Donald Trump is the man who

1814
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:37,200
can take us there.

1815
01:43:38,850 --> 01:43:42,090
Anyway, is never going to end
this is gonna go on for months.

1816
01:43:42,090 --> 01:43:45,990
Ladies, correct? No. Five, take
him out. They'll have the

1817
01:43:45,990 --> 01:43:51,120
meeting like they had with Ross
Perot show a few pictures is you

1818
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:55,830
know, guys in dark suits and
sunglasses and in a parking lot

1819
01:43:55,830 --> 01:43:56,610
under the ground.

1820
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:58,980
I don't think he's afraid of it.
I don't think he gives a crap.

1821
01:43:59,190 --> 01:43:59,790
We'll see.

1822
01:43:59,850 --> 01:44:03,480
Ross Perot wasn't either. All
right. So that now here's the

1823
01:44:03,480 --> 01:44:05,880
another short short clip of
Rubio because I just wanted to

1824
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:09,900
point something out which bought
bugs me, Ruby, because this is a

1825
01:44:09,900 --> 01:44:12,810
part of something you brought up
after the show. Yeah, after the

1826
01:44:12,810 --> 01:44:17,040
show, which was the use of and
you see this on all these little

1827
01:44:17,070 --> 01:44:20,940
Tech High Tech warning podcasts.
And I said happens at the dinner

1828
01:44:20,940 --> 01:44:23,280
table in everybody's house when
if you have kids, especially if

1829
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,370
they're around 12 years old,
where you want to get into

1830
01:44:26,370 --> 01:44:30,840
conferences, I think Well, I
think Apple's gonna do this. I

1831
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:31,380
think

1832
01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:34,800
I think I think I think Apple
should have bought that bought

1833
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:40,020
Oculus Rift before Facebook and
I think I think the I am film

1834
01:44:40,020 --> 01:44:41,070
girl I think

1835
01:44:41,850 --> 01:44:44,910
Sorry, I have to say now you're
bringing skirt this girl is

1836
01:44:44,910 --> 01:44:49,410
remarks name me that people I'm
sorry. But I think i think i

1837
01:44:49,410 --> 01:44:54,420
think i think i think i think i
think i think is crap. And here

1838
01:44:54,420 --> 01:44:57,690
is Rubio. He is one of these
people and I'll tell you how I'm

1839
01:44:57,690 --> 01:45:00,270
gonna He's gonna here's his
preface. I'm with it. I'm gonna

1840
01:45:00,270 --> 01:45:02,460
tell you how he should have said
it. If he's had any

1841
01:45:02,490 --> 01:45:05,670
qualifications to be president
in terms of his his leadership

1842
01:45:05,670 --> 01:45:06,210
abilities,

1843
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,750
sanctions, is it not possible
that this is simply the best

1844
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:12,150
deal any American president
could have gotten?

1845
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,390
No, I don't think that's true. I
think that the sanctions were

1846
01:45:15,390 --> 01:45:17,940
actually forcing Iran to the
table. I think we should have

1847
01:45:17,940 --> 01:45:21,090
asked for a lot more of this
sanction. This to violates

1848
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,030
promises the President made to
the American people on multiple

1849
01:45:24,030 --> 01:45:27,660
fronts. It is not an anytime
anywhere inspection system. It

1850
01:45:27,660 --> 01:45:30,450
is an inspection process that
will invite and require

1851
01:45:30,450 --> 01:45:31,320
arbitration.

1852
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:35,700
We need to come up with a no
agenda response when people are

1853
01:45:35,700 --> 01:45:37,260
doing this. I think thing.

1854
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,320
Now the thing about this, if you
play that, again, it just ended

1855
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,630
after the second time he says I
think

1856
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:47,190
of sanctions, is it not possible
that this is simply the best

1857
01:45:47,190 --> 01:45:49,620
deal any American president
could have gotten?

1858
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,860
No, I don't think that's true. I
think that the sanctions were

1859
01:45:52,860 --> 01:45:55,410
actually forcing Iran to the
table. I think we should have

1860
01:45:55,410 --> 01:45:57,840
asked for a lot more of the
sanction. This guy's

1861
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:02,700
good. If he had to remove the
two, I thinks it would have been

1862
01:46:02,700 --> 01:46:07,050
fine. Yeah. No, there's no good
we could have done this in that.

1863
01:46:07,050 --> 01:46:07,170
And

1864
01:46:07,170 --> 01:46:11,190
I think I've paid it today, I
paid attention to our usage. And

1865
01:46:11,190 --> 01:46:13,890
we sometimes use this and we're
burdened just as guilty, but

1866
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:19,110
everybody uses Well, I don't
know if you are an expert on

1867
01:46:19,110 --> 01:46:23,520
some things. For instance, I
believe I am an expert on

1868
01:46:24,270 --> 01:46:29,010
aviation. So when I say I think
this is what happened, then that

1869
01:46:29,010 --> 01:46:32,400
is reasonably credible. But what
we typically do on the show and

1870
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,220
I've paid attention to it is
will say Obama should have done

1871
01:46:35,220 --> 01:46:40,380
this. Or you know, MUFON guy
should have thought considered

1872
01:46:40,380 --> 01:46:44,310
this. Boy, you say, I think who
gives a shit? I don't care what

1873
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:49,860
you think you are no, no expert
on in the material. And this has

1874
01:46:49,860 --> 01:46:54,270
to stop in general in certainly,
tech horny podcasts, because

1875
01:46:54,270 --> 01:46:57,660
it's it's annoying. It's boring.
It's boring. We don't care what

1876
01:46:57,660 --> 01:47:03,270
you think. You have no standing.
Your reporter reporters report

1877
01:47:03,270 --> 01:47:04,260
you don't think?

1878
01:47:06,780 --> 01:47:08,220
Well, technically, you're right.

1879
01:47:08,429 --> 01:47:14,639
Here is the future president.
Speaking to snow, by

1880
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:17,520
the way, can I interrupt you
right there? Of course. You

1881
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,580
know, my theories about the
economic cycles and the way

1882
01:47:20,580 --> 01:47:24,120
things work out. I do. The guy
who makes the biggest splash and

1883
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:28,530
doesn't get anywhere in this
cycle, which would be 2016 Is

1884
01:47:28,530 --> 01:47:31,830
the guy who becomes president in
2020. That's fine. So what

1885
01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:36,060
happened to Reagan? The Franklin
Roosevelt days what happened to

1886
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:37,140
have I can name more?

1887
01:47:37,259 --> 01:47:41,879
And Reagan I remember that when
Reagan was running? And I was in

1888
01:47:41,879 --> 01:47:43,889
the Netherlands, there's 76.

1889
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:45,480
Yeah. Okay.

1890
01:47:45,509 --> 01:47:51,239
The world was full of scoring
PA, an actor, an actor, an

1891
01:47:51,239 --> 01:47:56,819
actor, and now he is heralded as
the the godfather of the modern

1892
01:47:56,819 --> 01:48:01,559
Republican Party. Yeah. So
hilarious. Now, but but he is

1893
01:48:01,559 --> 01:48:06,359
all in almost all in on Putin
and and your thoughts on that?

1894
01:48:06,359 --> 01:48:09,269
He's much more aligned with you
than you think, John, but you

1895
01:48:09,269 --> 01:48:10,139
can't say I think

1896
01:48:10,170 --> 01:48:13,020
our Attorney General Holder just
the other day said perhaps some

1897
01:48:13,020 --> 01:48:16,050
sort of plea deal could be in
the works. He also said that

1898
01:48:16,050 --> 01:48:19,290
Snowden spurred a necessary
debate. What would you do best?

1899
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:22,380
I think he's a total traitor.
And I would deal with him

1900
01:48:22,380 --> 01:48:25,500
harshly. And if I were president
Putin would get over I would get

1901
01:48:25,500 --> 01:48:28,950
along with Putin. I've dealt
with Russia. Do you think? I

1902
01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:31,200
think I'd get along with him
fine. I think he'd be absolutely

1903
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:35,010
fine. He would never keep
somebody like Snowden in Russia.

1904
01:48:35,070 --> 01:48:38,280
He hates Obama. He doesn't
respect Obama. Obama doesn't

1905
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,730
like him either. But he has no
respect for Obama has a hatred

1906
01:48:41,730 --> 01:48:47,850
for Obama. And Snowden is living
the life. Look, if that if I'm

1907
01:48:47,850 --> 01:48:51,720
President Putin says, Hey, boom,
you're gone. I guarantee you

1908
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:51,840
that,

1909
01:48:52,049 --> 01:48:54,989
you know, I believed this
anything like my way of

1910
01:48:54,989 --> 01:48:57,809
thinking, but it's about
Snowden.

1911
01:48:59,310 --> 01:49:02,100
It's about Snowden, and that he
would get along very far as it

1912
01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:06,060
is, right. But I like that the
our future president, whether

1913
01:49:06,060 --> 01:49:09,720
it's 2016 or 2020, will get
along just fine with Putin, and

1914
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:14,820
I believe it. I believe it. Now
here's the thing. This this part

1915
01:49:14,820 --> 01:49:17,520
of this interview, I think hones
in on what a Pete a lot of

1916
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:21,930
people really like about the way
he is running his campaigns. I'm

1917
01:49:21,930 --> 01:49:22,230
doing

1918
01:49:22,230 --> 01:49:24,510
this for the good of the
country, somebody has to do it.

1919
01:49:24,660 --> 01:49:26,970
Politicians are never going to
turn this country around our

1920
01:49:26,970 --> 01:49:29,880
country's a mess. The
politicians are going to destroy

1921
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:31,980
this country. They're weak and
they're ineffective.

1922
01:49:32,010 --> 01:49:36,360
I love that. He uses this a lot
weak. They're weak. Every

1923
01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:39,270
opponent, what do you think of
him? He's weak, just weak

1924
01:49:39,300 --> 01:49:40,080
or a loser?

1925
01:49:40,110 --> 01:49:44,880
It's a it's a it's a Fanta and
it's also it's all lines he's

1926
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,630
used in the apprentice, you're
weak. You're just weak. And when

1927
01:49:48,630 --> 01:49:51,390
you say to someone, you're weak,
but how do you come? What is the

1928
01:49:51,390 --> 01:49:56,550
comeback? I'm strong. No, no,
you're weak. It's very powerful,

1929
01:49:56,820 --> 01:49:59,160
and they're controlled by the
lobbyists and the special

1930
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,710
interests will Like, I have no
idea you took

1931
01:50:01,710 --> 01:50:03,630
the lobbyists and special
interests though you and I

1932
01:50:03,630 --> 01:50:06,600
talked last time, you've given a
lot of money to politicians over

1933
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:08,730
the years you've given to
Democrats and Republicans,

1934
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:10,080
aren't you part of the problem?
I would?

1935
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:13,860
Absolutely, absolutely. I was on
the other side, they will do

1936
01:50:13,860 --> 01:50:16,260
whatever I want up until you
decide to run. So

1937
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,950
critical to say, Oh, this is a
problem. But I'm going to make

1938
01:50:19,950 --> 01:50:20,760
the most of this role

1939
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:24,300
playing the game. I was a
businessman, I made a fortune, I

1940
01:50:24,300 --> 01:50:26,340
made a lot of money i i posted

1941
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,640
over $10 billion. In order to
make money. It's okay to play

1942
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:30,570
the game before it's

1943
01:50:30,570 --> 01:50:33,480
called your life. I mean, I'm a
businessman, and I contribute to

1944
01:50:33,480 --> 01:50:36,840
people and they treat me nicely
and everything else. So

1945
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:38,910
how do you change that? How do
you change that culture? I

1946
01:50:38,910 --> 01:50:41,670
understand the practice. Look, I
just read an article with Bush's

1947
01:50:41,670 --> 01:50:44,610
meeting with all these lobbyists
in Washington has a meeting with

1948
01:50:44,610 --> 01:50:47,670
all these lobbyists, every one
of those lobbyists that gives

1949
01:50:47,670 --> 01:50:50,370
money, they expect something for
it. And that's a bad thing.

1950
01:50:51,540 --> 01:50:54,300
Absolutely. I've had lobbyists,
and I've had some very good

1951
01:50:54,300 --> 01:50:57,030
ones, they could do anything,
they can take a politician and

1952
01:50:57,030 --> 01:50:58,530
have them jump off this ledge.

1953
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:04,140
This guy is great. Can you
actually change that culture of

1954
01:51:04,170 --> 01:51:04,710
corruption?

1955
01:51:04,740 --> 01:51:07,470
Well, you can in the sense that
the tough person can't be

1956
01:51:07,470 --> 01:51:11,130
bought. I'm worth far too much
money, I don't need anybody's

1957
01:51:11,130 --> 01:51:13,590
money. I'm not running with
anybody's money. I'm spending my

1958
01:51:13,590 --> 01:51:16,860
own money. But the lobbyists
have, or they totally control

1959
01:51:16,860 --> 01:51:20,610
these politicians. Just take a
look in one of the articles very

1960
01:51:20,610 --> 01:51:24,570
recently, I see a bush with the
lobbyists. And he's sitting

1961
01:51:24,570 --> 01:51:27,240
there with all of these people
that told him to work regenerate

1962
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:29,610
the machine. So he telling them
what to do, like a little

1963
01:51:29,610 --> 01:51:31,920
puppet. And the same with
Hillary and the same with

1964
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:35,130
everybody else. Now, when I'm in
business, I'm part of that game.

1965
01:51:35,490 --> 01:51:38,130
When I'm in this. I now know,
when somebody's coming back

1966
01:51:38,130 --> 01:51:39,990
and forth, though. I'm gonna be
a guy. Yes,

1967
01:51:39,990 --> 01:51:41,910
Anderson is possible. Dick,

1968
01:51:41,940 --> 01:51:45,360
I am able to do that. Critical.
Not at all. Look, I'm going to

1969
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:46,560
do it. I've made a lot of money.

1970
01:51:46,980 --> 01:51:49,350
A lot hurt. And so I've heard

1971
01:51:50,430 --> 01:51:53,370
and I don't need money or one. I
don't need $5,000 He had 10,000

1972
01:51:53,490 --> 01:51:56,610
These guys are desperate for
money. I don't need it. I'm

1973
01:51:56,610 --> 01:51:58,530
gonna do what's right for the
country. You

1974
01:51:58,530 --> 01:52:03,900
know, I am telling you, John, as
a disc jockey. I was. It was my

1975
01:52:03,900 --> 01:52:06,930
job to pick songs that would be
hits that people would like at

1976
01:52:06,930 --> 01:52:10,200
the right time, the right moment
where the right of sandwiching

1977
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:13,860
of other things. We do this on
this show. We pick stories, we

1978
01:52:13,860 --> 01:52:19,290
pick clips. This is the guy that
America wants. It's the problem,

1979
01:52:19,290 --> 01:52:22,920
right he has right now. Is he
it's just politically incorrect

1980
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,440
to say you can say, well, I like
what he's saying. But I don't

1981
01:52:25,440 --> 01:52:28,800
want that clown in the White
House. Well, you some valid

1982
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:32,070
points, but he's a side show.
Well, this would be perfect

1983
01:52:32,070 --> 01:52:36,330
for 2020 because he won't get
in. He's doesn't got a prayer.

1984
01:52:36,330 --> 01:52:39,690
He won't get nominated. He'll
make a big splash make a big

1985
01:52:39,690 --> 01:52:41,880
scene. He's not spending a lot
of money. I don't see any No,

1986
01:52:42,180 --> 01:52:44,280
no, he's not. So he doesn't have
to write and I don't think he's

1987
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:48,240
spending anything. So it's not
like it's the travel now. And

1988
01:52:48,270 --> 01:52:53,010
here's here's another important
reason why I would like him to

1989
01:52:53,010 --> 01:52:58,830
be president, and why I am
endorsing him early. Because I

1990
01:52:58,830 --> 01:53:02,940
see a role for us in this John.
This is this is the kind of guy

1991
01:53:02,940 --> 01:53:06,300
who's gonna say, yeah, there's
no agenda, guys, bring them in.

1992
01:53:07,590 --> 01:53:11,010
And first of all, we'd be in. I
know we can get a meeting with a

1993
01:53:11,010 --> 01:53:15,450
guy who like us. And then we can
be like, yeah, we can be I can

1994
01:53:15,450 --> 01:53:18,930
be CTO of the country. Or maybe
we get an ambassadorship.

1995
01:53:19,650 --> 01:53:21,240
I bet Ambassador ship to France.

1996
01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:24,960
There you go. Oh, Mike, done,
Consider it done. It's kind of

1997
01:53:24,990 --> 01:53:27,660
well, that Skype connection
might suck for the show from

1998
01:53:27,660 --> 01:53:28,230
France,

1999
01:53:28,410 --> 01:53:30,060
or maybe not from the embassy.

2000
01:53:30,630 --> 01:53:34,650
But he he really hits all the
points at some point. And you're

2001
01:53:34,650 --> 01:53:37,500
right, of course, I'm going to
say I'm not going to argue your

2002
01:53:37,500 --> 01:53:40,920
cycle theory because that's how
the cycle theory how can you

2003
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:45,420
argue? I mean, come on, are you
I can give you I'm not gonna

2004
01:53:45,420 --> 01:53:49,920
argue it. I like it. Maybe it's
maybe it's 2020 but there's

2005
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:53,220
going to be some meme some way
that someone says something that

2006
01:53:53,220 --> 01:53:56,940
makes it politically correct to
actually endorse Donald Trump

2007
01:53:57,030 --> 01:53:59,550
something that is what he needs
to happen here. You're gonna

2008
01:53:59,550 --> 01:54:03,330
happen here was fine. This let
me ramble I'm endorsing someone

2009
01:54:03,330 --> 01:54:07,740
for President where's your we're
gonna endorse the Diane Keaton

2010
01:54:07,770 --> 01:54:08,850
Warren. What's her name?

2011
01:54:11,250 --> 01:54:15,870
I'm endorsing Diane Keaton ran
for president I'm on

2012
01:54:15,870 --> 01:54:20,940
drugs. Here is the final bit
from this interview and people

2013
01:54:20,940 --> 01:54:22,050
will like this

2014
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:24,840
one thing about me I wouldn't be
on planes doing all these

2015
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,810
fundraisers if you're gonna
fundraise, maybe doing someplace

2016
01:54:27,810 --> 01:54:31,590
else. I mean, the other night in
New York, New York was shut down

2017
01:54:31,590 --> 01:54:36,780
because Obama is here to go to a
Broadway play. He's here to you

2018
01:54:36,780 --> 01:54:39,060
know, when you're in the White
House for a limited period of

2019
01:54:39,060 --> 01:54:43,290
time, I'd be there all the time
working. Working the difference.

2020
01:54:43,290 --> 01:54:45,390
I wouldn't even have time to
comb my hair the way come and I

2021
01:54:45,390 --> 01:54:46,380
probably just have to come

2022
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:50,550
back. See self deprecating
humor. Yeah, very nice. I'm

2023
01:54:50,550 --> 01:54:54,450
telling you. I endorsed Donald
Trump for president and I would

2024
01:54:54,450 --> 01:54:55,170
love Fincher.

2025
01:54:56,700 --> 01:54:59,520
Let's play a couple last. I
think I have one last one.

2026
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:03,570
That's Pretty much the other.
This is the peculiar. This is

2027
01:55:03,570 --> 01:55:07,200
another slam CNN. I mean, I'm
surprised to hear Anderson

2028
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:09,660
probably got a lot of flack for
this interview because it may

2029
01:55:09,750 --> 01:55:12,240
because Trump took it over. He
took over he owned it

2030
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:16,080
and Trump does something very,
very cool. When when a reporter

2031
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:19,350
tries to interrupt him, he says,
Excuse me, and people shut up.

2032
01:55:19,350 --> 01:55:20,520
It's really interesting to
watch.

2033
01:55:20,580 --> 01:55:25,950
He does it in a very abrupt way
that works. Yeah. It's, it's a

2034
01:55:25,950 --> 01:55:29,010
technique he learned somewhere
in meetings, probably in

2035
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:33,600
business meetings. But he, yeah,
he does it. Anybody does? I've

2036
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:35,880
heard see him do this couple of
times. He does, excuse me. And

2037
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:40,830
then he starts to talk as though
if you're saying anything, He is

2038
01:55:40,830 --> 01:55:44,970
not listening. He is going on
and you have to stop. Yeah. And

2039
01:55:44,970 --> 01:55:47,910
if you're an interviewer, that's
what you you're trained to do,

2040
01:55:47,910 --> 01:55:51,600
anyway. Yeah. The only people
that can really stop would be

2041
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:55,410
people yelling back at him. And
they're not interviewing him.

2042
01:55:55,410 --> 01:55:57,600
Then they're just debating him.
And I think it would maybe be

2043
01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:01,710
different with the I don't know,
I'm thinking of Perry's parents,

2044
01:56:01,710 --> 01:56:04,440
too. I think I see the thing
he's already got in my brain and

2045
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:07,140
Perry needs to take an IQ test.
He's got these memes. He's

2046
01:56:07,140 --> 01:56:10,470
dropped in there like bombs. I
mean, Perry hasn't got a prayer.

2047
01:56:10,470 --> 01:56:12,300
Now after the ancient thing.
None

2048
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:16,770
of them have a prayer this guy
is. I know, the American people.

2049
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:21,750
We like bombing people. We like
being the big bully. We pretend

2050
01:56:21,750 --> 01:56:22,500
we don't

2051
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:28,230
yet Jeb Bush is going to win it.
Okay, let's play this game,

2052
01:56:28,230 --> 01:56:30,240
because they're just going to be
relentless. They're going to

2053
01:56:30,330 --> 01:56:33,330
there's meetings going on, you
can be sure of this. Anyone

2054
01:56:33,330 --> 01:56:36,570
listening to this? At anytime
you're listening? There are a

2055
01:56:36,570 --> 01:56:42,810
meetings right now, in New York,
Washington and elsewhere. What

2056
01:56:42,810 --> 01:56:44,580
are we going to do about this
guy?

2057
01:56:44,910 --> 01:56:47,490
Make him president? Why not just
let him when

2058
01:56:47,730 --> 01:56:50,760
they're getting paid not to make
him president. That's what these

2059
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:53,340
meetings are about. These are
not meetings and people that

2060
01:56:53,790 --> 01:56:59,280
I use are these are lobbyists?
And I would think not I think

2061
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:02,880
but I would think that the
lobbyists will take money from

2062
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:05,490
other people look to the smart
money is going to say, You know

2063
01:57:05,490 --> 01:57:08,430
what? Let's go with this guy.
Let's run with him. He's on our

2064
01:57:08,430 --> 01:57:09,570
side. You're

2065
01:57:09,570 --> 01:57:14,310
nuts. All right. Let's play
peculiar CNN slam on Trump.

2066
01:57:14,340 --> 01:57:16,830
Did you see this week he filed
his financial information with

2067
01:57:16,830 --> 01:57:19,590
the government. This is a
precursor to him trying to get

2068
01:57:19,590 --> 01:57:22,470
into the GOP debates beginning
next month, also, obviously a

2069
01:57:22,470 --> 01:57:25,560
precursor to really running for
president and the financial

2070
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,870
information that he released in
a press release. We haven't

2071
01:57:27,870 --> 01:57:30,300
actually seen the filing yet.
But the press release said he

2072
01:57:30,300 --> 01:57:35,790
was paid $213 million to host
the apprentice in the 14 seasons

2073
01:57:35,790 --> 01:57:38,460
that he was with the show. Does
that sound crazy to you? Is that

2074
01:57:38,460 --> 01:57:42,180
possible? Can someone get paid
$230 million to host a reality

2075
01:57:42,180 --> 01:57:42,810
TV show?

2076
01:57:43,830 --> 01:57:48,300
It seems unlikely doesn't if
Ryan I don't know. I'm not sure

2077
01:57:48,300 --> 01:57:50,940
Jerry Seinfeld was getting that
much money in the heyday. So

2078
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,670
yeah, sideshow. That's the

2079
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:57,660
goal crap. Hold on a second.
This is the kind of thing we get

2080
01:57:57,660 --> 01:58:01,050
from these reporters. They can't
do the math. And this is the

2081
01:58:01,050 --> 01:58:03,870
media show on see and this is a
media. Yeah, it's the media

2082
01:58:03,870 --> 01:58:08,070
show. For that, that means Trump
is getting on a primetime show

2083
01:58:08,070 --> 01:58:11,460
that is enough of a hit that
stays on the air. They would not

2084
01:58:11,460 --> 01:58:14,010
keep it on the air for wasn't
and they're paying him what you

2085
01:58:14,010 --> 01:58:17,190
would pay a guy like this. And
this is actually low. This is

2086
01:58:17,190 --> 01:58:18,660
40. This, what's his

2087
01:58:18,660 --> 01:58:20,940
writing? What's his writing
point? Is it 14 million viewers

2088
01:58:20,940 --> 01:58:21,330
is that

2089
01:58:22,170 --> 01:58:29,070
getting $14 million for this
season? $14 million for a season

2090
01:58:29,070 --> 01:58:32,700
is nothing but the people that
work on the Today Show get $14

2091
01:58:32,700 --> 01:58:36,720
million. Exactly. Seinfeld in
his I'm not sure Seinfeld in his

2092
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:41,340
heyday was Seinfeld who was
doing 26 shows or more a year

2093
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:47,220
and repeating $1 million is show
syndication that now. On the

2094
01:58:47,220 --> 01:58:50,040
network. Yeah, but he also made
money on the syndication making

2095
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:52,320
millions on syndication because
you get he's getting something

2096
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:56,730
like 50% of syndication fees. So
he was making 26 million right

2097
01:58:56,730 --> 01:58:59,730
off the top, which is almost
twice as much as Trump so these

2098
01:58:59,730 --> 01:59:01,500
guys are just lying.

2099
01:59:02,970 --> 01:59:05,730
Yeah, well of course they're
lying because they are

2100
01:59:05,730 --> 01:59:07,980
they don't know what they're
talking about this why are they

2101
01:59:07,980 --> 01:59:11,940
on the air? Well, there's that
do the math do some calculate

2102
01:59:11,940 --> 01:59:15,150
your your now now you're just
pissed that you know they're

2103
01:59:15,150 --> 01:59:18,510
making all this money talking
shit. Now one other one other

2104
01:59:18,510 --> 01:59:27,060
reason why I am endorsing Trump
Melania Trump Oh yeah. Oh, yeah.

2105
01:59:27,090 --> 01:59:33,180
Wow, that's that could be our
first lady please. Oh, man

2106
01:59:33,210 --> 01:59:37,650
anyway. Oh, one last when I when
I'm invited. I'm gonna say oh,

2107
01:59:38,250 --> 01:59:41,730
don't invite that guy. He was
against you. That would be huge

2108
01:59:41,730 --> 01:59:42,060
on

2109
01:59:42,690 --> 01:59:46,620
I wasn't against them I
predicted for design I'm not

2110
01:59:46,620 --> 01:59:47,370
worried about others.

2111
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:50,760
You will be when I'm banging in
the in the Lincoln now there's

2112
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:51,870
so hard up

2113
01:59:52,020 --> 01:59:55,920
there so hard up they first they
got a Rupert Murdoch clip which

2114
01:59:56,010 --> 01:59:58,410
Trump has been having a feud
with for a while so they

2115
01:59:58,410 --> 02:00:02,730
repeated Rupert to him. Murdoch
clip and then they read a

2116
02:00:02,730 --> 02:00:07,170
Charlie Sheen tweet about Trump
as though this is important and

2117
02:00:07,170 --> 02:00:09,510
which clip is this is Charlie
Sheen?

2118
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:15,570
I'm sorry, I had I don't see.
Oh, yes. Sorry. Got it. And not

2119
02:00:15,570 --> 02:00:15,810
only

2120
02:00:15,810 --> 02:00:18,840
has Trump lost Murdoch, listen
to this. Oh, Trump, you're

2121
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:22,560
ashamed pile of idiocy. That was
a tweet from Charlie Sheen.

2122
02:00:23,519 --> 02:00:26,909
When the bastion of truth and
all things politic. Yeah,

2123
02:00:26,969 --> 02:00:30,029
that's gotten me about this is
they didn't read his tweet. They

2124
02:00:30,029 --> 02:00:32,999
read the last line of it. So I
wrote it down. Oh, good. Good

2125
02:00:32,999 --> 02:00:36,779
work. It was actually really
funny. Good work. Ready? Yeah.

2126
02:00:36,869 --> 02:00:41,999
Trump, you're as sad and silly
to monkey Willis, or what you

2127
02:00:41,999 --> 02:00:46,319
work at is he's a very small
person. I had to look it up to

2128
02:00:46,709 --> 02:00:53,069
your work. Your work is as
poignant as a sack of cat farts.

2129
02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:57,240
I should have read that. That's
licorice.

2130
02:00:57,270 --> 02:01:00,750
You're ashamed pile of it is
idiocy, a shame pile? I don't

2131
02:01:00,750 --> 02:01:03,990
know what that means. But okay,
so that's how hard they up.

2132
02:01:04,020 --> 02:01:07,590
But I will say only on the no
agenda show. Will you get the

2133
02:01:07,590 --> 02:01:10,710
full Charlie Sheen quote,
exactly. Only on the no agenda

2134
02:01:10,710 --> 02:01:11,100
show. So

2135
02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:12,600
I'm listening to another debate.

2136
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:15,510
Right, right down cat farts.

2137
02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:17,250
Cat farts.

2138
02:01:18,060 --> 02:01:21,840
Just just the idea of a cat fart
just I like the idea.

2139
02:01:23,670 --> 02:01:25,920
So I'm listening to this thing.
And they're going on. And I

2140
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:29,490
thought the whole thing was
summarized. This is the one is

2141
02:01:29,490 --> 02:01:32,370
this. I want? Oh, yeah, this is
the clip says I won't be

2142
02:01:32,370 --> 02:01:35,730
watching. They had a bunch of
people arguing about why Trump

2143
02:01:35,730 --> 02:01:37,860
should be on the debate who's
not gonna be on the bay and all

2144
02:01:37,860 --> 02:01:40,170
this. They were about to debate.
These guys are all the political

2145
02:01:40,170 --> 02:01:43,800
political analysts. For the I
believe this was CNN. They're

2146
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:47,520
all these, including this old
fart, who I can't I didn't write

2147
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:49,620
his name down. But he's just
you've seen him a million times.

2148
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:53,880
And he's just hates Trump. And,
and now I'm, I just want you to

2149
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:56,670
listen to his comment at the
very end is a very short clip, I

2150
02:01:56,670 --> 02:02:00,810
only clip the end. This is a guy
whose work whose job it is to

2151
02:02:00,810 --> 02:02:04,890
inform the public about things.
And this is his attitude about

2152
02:02:04,890 --> 02:02:06,810
the Republican debate. If
Trump's in it

2153
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:10,530
stands of debate. So they've
come up with this system, where

2154
02:02:10,530 --> 02:02:14,430
they are going to average the
most recent five polls, to pick

2155
02:02:14,430 --> 02:02:16,710
the top candidates. And those
are the ones on the debate.

2156
02:02:17,070 --> 02:02:21,510
Watching. Thank you. I won't be
watching thank you, because he's

2157
02:02:21,510 --> 02:02:25,110
a clown. You can't watch Trump
because he's not serious.

2158
02:02:25,770 --> 02:02:29,730
People. blessum People love
winners in America. Why are we

2159
02:02:29,730 --> 02:02:34,290
all allowed to like the biggest,
richest, most pompous asshole in

2160
02:02:34,290 --> 02:02:38,490
entertainment being Jay Z, and
we all love Jay Z. And he's got

2161
02:02:38,490 --> 02:02:42,000
to be Yonsei this his wife, but
yet, we all have to make jokes

2162
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:45,060
about Donald Trump, who has a
hotter wife than Beyonce and

2163
02:02:45,060 --> 02:02:46,830
more money and it's more
pompous.

2164
02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:51,360
He's heavily more pompous. But
here's the irony, because

2165
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:54,930
the truth is America actually
loves this kind of person.

2166
02:02:55,980 --> 02:02:59,280
I believe you're right on that.
And here's the irony of Trump,

2167
02:02:59,970 --> 02:03:03,090
especially amongst the
Republicans. All we've heard

2168
02:03:03,090 --> 02:03:07,020
since I was a kid. Oh, we need
more businessmen to run for

2169
02:03:07,020 --> 02:03:09,360
office. Thank you. We need more
businessman to run the

2170
02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:11,640
government. We don't have enough
businessmen. They don't think

2171
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:15,360
like businessmen. So you got
this guy who is the ultimate

2172
02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:19,110
businessman. Yeah, he's
successful in business. He's got

2173
02:03:19,140 --> 02:03:22,800
huge skyscrapers, Trump Tower
among them hotwire, built the

2174
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:25,800
old Biltmore and put in the
Grand Central Hyatt hot

2175
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:29,640
children. He's got great looking
family, a big family, a very

2176
02:03:30,060 --> 02:03:31,200
successful family. He's

2177
02:03:31,860 --> 02:03:35,460
promised drugs. He's a
Presbyterian.

2178
02:03:35,759 --> 02:03:38,789
He's got media experience. He's
been on the television. So he's

2179
02:03:38,789 --> 02:03:41,279
like Reagan in that regard. He
knows how to play to the camera,

2180
02:03:41,279 --> 02:03:44,489
and he doesn't have a bunch of
handlers. He's got everything

2181
02:03:44,489 --> 02:03:46,499
that they've been bitching that
they want.

2182
02:03:46,860 --> 02:03:49,740
Yes. And now he's here. And now
they're afraid because they have

2183
02:03:49,740 --> 02:03:53,640
no control of him, particularly
the media has zero control. And

2184
02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:56,820
that's why you're seeing this
take place. And I love it.

2185
02:03:57,240 --> 02:04:02,310
Yeah, we got that impression.
But let's segue into what is

2186
02:04:02,310 --> 02:04:05,730
going on on the other half of
the culture, which is denying

2187
02:04:05,730 --> 02:04:09,780
what you're talking about. Okay.
Which is the self esteem

2188
02:04:09,780 --> 02:04:10,350
movement.

2189
02:04:10,769 --> 02:04:13,319
And what is it Wait, there's a
movement? Well, we'll

2190
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:16,200
talk about it it is in the
clips, I could probably clip too

2191
02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:16,920
many clips. But

2192
02:04:17,549 --> 02:04:21,479
could I suggest something? Just
a programming note? Yeah, could

2193
02:04:21,479 --> 02:04:25,139
I suggest we tease this and move
it to the D block?

2194
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:29,400
That's actually the F Block
you're talking about.

2195
02:04:31,410 --> 02:04:34,830
I'm gonna show my school by
donate to no agenda. Imagine all

2196
02:04:34,830 --> 02:04:37,380
the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

2197
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:48,450
We do have a short list of
people to thank for show 740

2198
02:04:48,450 --> 02:04:50,220
business 742 741

2199
02:04:50,220 --> 02:04:50,580
baby.

2200
02:04:50,820 --> 02:04:54,630
So one one. We do have a few
people to thank for show seven

2201
02:04:54,630 --> 02:04:58,290
for one and we want to thank
them, including let's start off

2202
02:04:58,290 --> 02:05:02,970
with Christine Zachman. Who's in
lost wages in Nevada 12345 And

2203
02:05:02,970 --> 02:05:06,420
she will be Dame hood shortly
after we're

2204
02:05:06,420 --> 02:05:09,750
done. Do we have pictures of
Dame Christine of moongate

2205
02:05:09,780 --> 02:05:13,110
she net Dame Christina moongate
did not send anything in even

2206
02:05:13,110 --> 02:05:15,510
though she's from lost wages
where everyone has a headshot.

2207
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:20,100
Damien Taman and Perth our
favorite city in Australia

2208
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:26,580
$111.11, Mark Maga Peyo in
Cerritos, California. $100 is

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another birthday we have on the
birthday list. I'll check

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because we haven't in a blue
list there.

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You can move on.

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Eric Asbury in Brandon, Florida,
Mark 8989 10. And he says

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Welcome back, Adam. Oh, thank
you. John height in Folsom,

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California where the prison is
7881 and he's a three tenths of

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a night. Sir, my two heli,
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mature and get to know Quebec
$75. He says I'm not sending

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this or that John shuts up about
for donations. I was it was

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pretty low Sunday. And that's
really the reason he sent it in.

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Sir, up, borrow up. poro Aparo
I'm guessing or up arrow up

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arrow, up arrow in Norway. $74.
Sir, up row. Brad Bauer in

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Chicago, Illinois, hail apple
73.

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And it's a birthday donation on
her mic. Her now Steen's

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birthday on the 30th

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Yeah. And we and he is on the
list. Sure is Brian McFadden in

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Hampton, Virginia. 55 Double
nickels on the dime. Now the

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birthday, Chris a lot of
birthdays that we had no

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birthdays a couple shows ago,
Chris facer in Auburn, New South

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02:06:50,340 --> 02:06:54,930
Wales 5510. We really appreciate
the the Australians Joshua

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Mandel in Greenville, South
Carolina double nickels on the

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02:06:57,840 --> 02:07:02,580
dime. Matthew Frank in mentor,
Ohio. Great name for a town

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50 432 Nicholas Banat Sakis been
at SAC he's been out sick. He's

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been at sickies in Wakefield,
Massachusetts 5333 Sir Luke of

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London in London, UK 5099 but

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02:07:17,250 --> 02:07:21,690
just hold on one second of
Nicholas Bonnat Sakis says he

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02:07:21,690 --> 02:07:27,930
has created a new iOS app the
sounds have no agenda. And I'm

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02:07:27,930 --> 02:07:29,490
gonna get that right now. So you

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02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:34,620
have no agenda sounds. Nick the
Greek from Boston. So look of

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London or Blatt herb? Herb lamb.
It's a good one.

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Lamb isn't it? Isn't he from Wk
RP in Cincinnati is

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on Sugar Hill, Georgia actually
Sugar Hill 5033 now the rest of

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02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:50,010
these are $50 You're already
down to that. And including Oh

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Neil, Esther and I in Hong Kong
and I don't know if that's the

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02:07:53,700 --> 02:07:54,720
correct pronunciation but

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oh results for sounds have no
agenda.

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Oh, and E I L E we'll keep
looking. Sir Jason rose Bilski

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in Saskatoon Saskatchewan has
got a birthday. David weed in

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02:08:06,270 --> 02:08:12,480
Three Rivers michigan $50. Has a
birthday. Sandy Geisler in

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Watkinsville, Georgia, amazed
see still Loski in Calgary,

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Alberta. Brandon Merrick in
Tempe Arizona. Andrew Martin in

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Terrell ah, New South Wales,
Australia. Andrew Patrick maqam.

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Sir Patrick MATCOM to you in New
York City. Jason Daniels in

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Dallas, Texas, Steve Winslow in
Bristol, Avon, UK. These are all

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50s Simon horn manly Queensland,
Australia. And finally the last

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two is Benjamin C. Smith over
here in Oakland, California.

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$50. And always, as always, Sir
David Trotsky in Romeoville,

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Illinois 50. That concludes our
list of the helpers producers

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02:08:53,910 --> 02:08:58,320
for show 741 Hopefully we can
bring in more for the next show.

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02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:01,680
We do have a nother show coming
up on Sunday Shem 42, the

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vortex.org/and They'd be
appreciated all the help we can

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get

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and I'm looking at so I cannot
find maybe he hasn't submitted

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it yet. Or maybe it hasn't been
mentioned on the next show. But

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02:09:11,220 --> 02:09:15,360
I'm seeing something else that
is I don't look at the don't

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02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:19,170
look at a lot of apps. But they
have these bundles. We should

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02:09:19,170 --> 02:09:22,620
have a no agenda apps bundle you
get you can get them all in one

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02:09:22,620 --> 02:09:24,960
go. Why don't we have that? Does
that something Apple does or can

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02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:29,400
we set that up? Or someone out
there will know someone out

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02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:29,700
there want

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02:09:29,700 --> 02:09:32,490
to have a beard so many dudes
named Ben. I'm sure one of them

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can do it.

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Oh, no agenda sound.com. Okay,
jobs calm for everybody who

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needs

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jobs,

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jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.

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And thank you to everybody who
supported the program today.

2276
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:52,170
Good to have donations up again.
Getting I was getting a little

2277
02:09:52,170 --> 02:09:54,630
bit worried. I was like when
people email me and say well,

2278
02:09:54,810 --> 02:09:59,370
it's like comics or Blogger.
Well, yeah, do your show was

2279
02:09:59,370 --> 02:10:03,780
shut down with In a month, it's
boring. I get that a lot.

2280
02:10:05,400 --> 02:10:07,170
Supposedly a supporter and

2281
02:10:07,170 --> 02:10:09,870
I really is and I always replies
are you depressed again? It'd be

2282
02:10:09,870 --> 02:10:12,630
like Well, no, but you know, you
didn't play any of my clips.

2283
02:10:12,660 --> 02:10:15,870
Okay, okay, I get it. I get it.
Thank you all, especially people

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02:10:15,870 --> 02:10:18,750
under $50 Mainly for anonymity
reasons, but also those who are

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02:10:18,750 --> 02:10:21,720
on a subscription please
consider that go to our support

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page to vorak.org/in A.

2287
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:36,690
Nice list today Chris facer
celebrates today also mark Umag

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02:10:36,690 --> 02:10:39,510
pay. And Brian McFadden will be
celebrating his birthday

2289
02:10:39,510 --> 02:10:42,600
tomorrow. David Weitz is Happy
Birthday to his son Atticus is

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02:10:42,600 --> 02:10:46,560
no longer a politically correct
name. My mind ad will be 12

2291
02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:49,890
Tomorrow Eric Hof celebrates on
the 25th Brad Bowers is Happy

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Birthday to Mike and Olsteen so
Britney and 30 is Charlotte

2293
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Allen says Happy Birthday
Magewell Gonsalves turning 40

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02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:59,760
and search Jason Rozycki says
Happy Birthday to his brother

2295
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:03,690
Shane Rozycki who turns 27 Happy
birthday from your buddies here

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02:11:03,690 --> 02:11:06,030
the best podcast in the
universe. Uncle John and Uncle

2297
02:11:06,030 --> 02:11:11,010
Adam. I have a note here from
Eric the shill. What is this?

2298
02:11:11,040 --> 02:11:14,970
Oh, the new sealing wax has
arrived. However, it was not

2299
02:11:14,970 --> 02:11:20,070
branded as agreed. F Hong Kong
he says, well, that sucks.

2300
02:11:20,730 --> 02:11:21,720
But does it say

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02:11:22,530 --> 02:11:23,940
rotten nothing, I guess no, it

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02:11:23,940 --> 02:11:28,860
was not brand just not branded
at all. And yeah, this is the

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02:11:28,860 --> 02:11:32,070
work and this is the problem was
not made in America.

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02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:36,540
Now was everybody here a night
or did someone or some of these

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02:11:36,570 --> 02:11:39,780
double knighthoods or I'm a
little confused?

2306
02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:42,900
I think one of them was second
night. Yeah,

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02:11:42,900 --> 02:11:44,010
which one though?

2308
02:11:44,130 --> 02:11:46,560
I gotta go back and look, it was
right at the beginning of the

2309
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:47,550
show. I can figure it out.

2310
02:11:48,330 --> 02:11:52,980
Because I think this is a
mistake. Well, anyway,

2311
02:11:53,250 --> 02:11:56,520
you totally do have this
Seymour's. Okay, there's a one

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02:11:56,520 --> 02:12:00,420
that Patrick Seymour I think
it's isn't it? toursim Sure,

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02:12:00,420 --> 02:12:00,930
Tim.

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02:12:00,990 --> 02:12:04,350
So Tim Sonnerie he becomes Sir
Tim have the map of Tassie

2315
02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:08,760
yes, that I believe is so that
is not a knighting personnel

2316
02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:11,850
that's not a knighting it's a
it's a name change. But he's the

2317
02:12:11,850 --> 02:12:13,050
only one title change

2318
02:12:13,050 --> 02:12:18,480
actually. Well, good. Good. Then
let me get my my sword and you

2319
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:20,790
can get yours out. And what
meanwhile, hello, sword.

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02:12:21,600 --> 02:12:25,650
Oh, got it rushed

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02:12:25,650 --> 02:12:29,130
to the stage to the stage
please. Patrick Seymour. Eric

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02:12:29,130 --> 02:12:31,830
how Britta Eric off and
Christine Zachman. Would you

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02:12:31,830 --> 02:12:35,310
please come up on the podium
supporting the best podcast the

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02:12:35,310 --> 02:12:38,430
university amount of $1,000 or
more therefore I'm very very

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02:12:38,430 --> 02:12:41,160
proud to induct you into the
roundtable the knights in the

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02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:44,040
names are pronounced the gate.
Sir Patrick of the enormous

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02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:48,930
noggins sir Eric Hal Brunner,
sir will code for coffee and

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game Christine of moongate for
you we have the obvious hookers

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and blow rent boys and
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and ask feelings bad science and
perky breasts raspberry pies and

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breakfast burritos malted barley
and hops in Mali girlfriend

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experience and pot and of course
if you want it we've got your

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mutton in Mead never forget that
go to no agenda nation.com/rings

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02:13:11,490 --> 02:13:14,100
and Eric the show will hook you
up we'll get stuff out to as

2335
02:13:14,100 --> 02:13:18,300
soon as possible. Sorry about
the sealing wax. I did get a

2336
02:13:18,300 --> 02:13:22,680
nice shape. I got a CD the other
day in the mail here but I was

2337
02:13:22,710 --> 02:13:25,470
it was I didn't know what it was
a envelope and looked like it

2338
02:13:25,470 --> 02:13:28,920
felt like CD CD size but you
flip it over and there was night

2339
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:34,290
ring embossed into the mail
sealing wax. That's nice. I love

2340
02:13:34,290 --> 02:13:34,650
that

2341
02:13:34,680 --> 02:13:39,300
that was done that was sent to
me to be resented or emailed to

2342
02:13:39,300 --> 02:13:41,400
you. About a year and a half
ago.

2343
02:13:41,430 --> 02:13:43,800
He wound up eventually just
sending it to me directly.

2344
02:13:44,160 --> 02:13:46,290
Ah. Well, you got it.

2345
02:13:46,830 --> 02:13:50,670
Do you? How about the sash? Did
you send the sash off? That's

2346
02:13:50,670 --> 02:13:53,130
coming because I got girls lined
up to model it for us.

2347
02:13:53,460 --> 02:13:55,410
Oh boy, it'd be off this week.

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02:13:57,060 --> 02:14:00,090
I knew it wouldn't take much
more than that. All right, we

2349
02:14:00,090 --> 02:14:03,870
are now welcome everybody to the
F block where John is going to

2350
02:14:03,900 --> 02:14:07,200
discuss I think something very
important which is this the

2351
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:08,010
movement

2352
02:14:08,130 --> 02:14:10,980
okay and I over clip this
there's a lot of clips I

2353
02:14:10,980 --> 02:14:14,070
tried to let's just do with the
self esteem movement.

2354
02:14:14,580 --> 02:14:17,340
I've over clipped this a little
bit this is from one of my

2355
02:14:17,340 --> 02:14:20,580
favorite shows which I just
think is a great show it's a

2356
02:14:20,580 --> 02:14:22,920
it's called a real sports with
Brian Gumbel.

2357
02:14:22,950 --> 02:14:23,880
Yeah, something

2358
02:14:24,810 --> 02:14:27,660
it's like a 60 midday In fact,
it's so good that one of the

2359
02:14:27,660 --> 02:14:30,810
other cable networks the cable
show when the other cable

2360
02:14:30,810 --> 02:14:34,650
networks decided to do 60
minutes sports so 60 minutes

2361
02:14:34,650 --> 02:14:36,960
actually got in on this to try
to but they don't do as good a

2362
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:39,060
job they don't have the right
reporters these guys are all

2363
02:14:39,060 --> 02:14:43,230
sports guys. And so they
stumbled across the story on the

2364
02:14:43,260 --> 02:14:46,230
self esteem problem. And it
begins with this interesting

2365
02:14:46,230 --> 02:14:49,590
premise which we're we're
ruining our children and we know

2366
02:14:49,590 --> 02:14:52,590
this with and it began in the
1980s with the self esteem

2367
02:14:52,590 --> 02:14:55,350
movement, but let's start with
the premise of the of the whole

2368
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:59,070
little bit that they do with
self esteem one It's

2369
02:14:59,070 --> 02:15:02,220
the final day of The season at a
youth sports league outside

2370
02:15:02,220 --> 02:15:06,600
Tampa, Florida. And while you
may think you're just looking at

2371
02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:11,610
kids playing games, you're
actually looking at a lot more.

2372
02:15:12,030 --> 02:15:15,660
Nothing less than back then a
seismic shift in American

2373
02:15:15,660 --> 02:15:20,340
culture. Everybody ready for
some trophies? A cult culture

2374
02:15:20,460 --> 02:15:25,110
that miraculously produces
nothing but winners. How many

2375
02:15:25,110 --> 02:15:28,950
kids do you have out here
tonight? That's 650 How many

2376
02:15:28,950 --> 02:15:32,910
kids will get trophies? All 650?
You think this is a good idea?

2377
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:34,440
We think it's a great idea.

2378
02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:40,920
Ryan Sanders is the president of
I nine sports which runs more

2379
02:15:40,920 --> 02:15:45,450
than 1000 youth leagues across
the United States. This is the

2380
02:15:45,450 --> 02:15:50,250
division champion trophy.
Correct. And this is the all

2381
02:15:50,250 --> 02:15:54,420
star trophy. Can I assume the
all star trophy? Is the one

2382
02:15:54,420 --> 02:15:58,200
given to everybody who's not a
champion? Yes. Why is it

2383
02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:01,200
necessary to call them all
stars? To make them

2384
02:16:01,200 --> 02:16:05,880
feel special? And help them
understand that by participating

2385
02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:08,760
being part of the team by
completing the season they are

2386
02:16:08,760 --> 02:16:09,120
star?

2387
02:16:09,570 --> 02:16:12,270
Special is a key word. I've
heard that a lot. Yeah, we want

2388
02:16:12,270 --> 02:16:14,460
to make things we want to make a
child feel special.

2389
02:16:14,490 --> 02:16:17,700
There's no winning. We don't
like to foster a competitive

2390
02:16:17,700 --> 02:16:21,960
atmosphere. But we laugh a lot.
Now everyone can share a secret.

2391
02:16:22,890 --> 02:16:23,310
It actually

2392
02:16:23,310 --> 02:16:24,720
gets worse than that joke clip,

2393
02:16:25,019 --> 02:16:27,929
play. And really, this is great.
I love this John, the self

2394
02:16:27,929 --> 02:16:29,879
esteem movement. I didn't know
that there was actually

2395
02:16:30,240 --> 02:16:34,110
Oh, this was actually explained
later when they do a little

2396
02:16:34,110 --> 02:16:37,230
retrospective on when it began
in the 1980s. With with with a

2397
02:16:37,230 --> 02:16:39,690
clip from an old film they were
showing in California because

2398
02:16:39,690 --> 02:16:42,720
California is the center of this
thing. But it's all over now. I

2399
02:16:42,720 --> 02:16:44,670
mean, that was in Tampa,
Florida, the whole country has

2400
02:16:44,670 --> 02:16:47,820
been plagued by this. And as we
go through the six clips, you're

2401
02:16:47,820 --> 02:16:51,270
gonna find it gets more
sickening each clip but let's

2402
02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:52,470
play self esteem to

2403
02:16:52,709 --> 02:16:57,149
as isn't even a trophy for
effort or trying. It's a trophy

2404
02:16:57,149 --> 02:17:00,449
for participation. It sets the
bar pretty low.

2405
02:17:00,990 --> 02:17:04,560
Jean Twinkie is a psychology
professor at San Diego State

2406
02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:09,090
University, who says America's
trophy culture is actually

2407
02:17:09,090 --> 02:17:14,400
hurting our kids. That seems so
harmless. Little Johnny got a

2408
02:17:14,730 --> 02:17:20,130
trophy. Yeah, he made 22 errors,
you know, about it zero. And the

2409
02:17:20,130 --> 02:17:24,000
team finished last, give the kid
a trophy to which you say

2410
02:17:24,420 --> 02:17:28,380
can which I say give the kid a
hug. And let's practice more and

2411
02:17:28,380 --> 02:17:30,720
figure out how not not to make
too many errors. But a trophy

2412
02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:33,570
puts what in his head trophy
puts in his head that that

2413
02:17:33,570 --> 02:17:38,340
whatever he did was good enough,
even when it clearly wasn't. And

2414
02:17:38,340 --> 02:17:40,230
that's not how the real world
works.

2415
02:17:40,290 --> 02:17:42,900
So you're saying this is bigger
than Little League?

2416
02:17:42,959 --> 02:17:46,349
Yes. And it's a it's an issue of
the culture changing.

2417
02:17:47,010 --> 02:17:51,240
That change in America's culture
started a generation ago, when

2418
02:17:51,240 --> 02:17:53,850
educators started to be
influenced by trends in

2419
02:17:53,850 --> 02:17:58,770
psychology. And the big new idea
was something called the self

2420
02:17:58,800 --> 02:18:00,090
esteem movement.

2421
02:18:00,780 --> 02:18:05,130
Self esteem is as important as
good nutrition, good health, and

2422
02:18:05,130 --> 02:18:08,250
in my view, more important than
making good grades.

2423
02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:12,150
Researcher, Ashley Lerman has
written extensively about the

2424
02:18:12,150 --> 02:18:12,780
movement

2425
02:18:13,020 --> 02:18:17,340
in the state of California had a
task force in the 1980s to study

2426
02:18:17,340 --> 02:18:20,250
self esteem. And we thought,
especially for kids in

2427
02:18:20,250 --> 02:18:23,640
struggling communities, if we
just told them, they were great.

2428
02:18:23,940 --> 02:18:26,730
They would believe it. And then
they could achieve more because

2429
02:18:26,730 --> 02:18:29,610
they were certain they were
great. And sports literally

2430
02:18:29,610 --> 02:18:32,940
coaches, teachers, anyone
working with kids and will how

2431
02:18:32,940 --> 02:18:36,060
do we build kids self esteem?
Well, we'll give them stickers.

2432
02:18:36,060 --> 02:18:39,390
That's your great trophy, and
we'll give them a medal.

2433
02:18:39,450 --> 02:18:41,940
But you're saying there's just
one thing wrong with this

2434
02:18:41,940 --> 02:18:42,390
theory.

2435
02:18:42,660 --> 02:18:43,950
None of it works. Yeah.

2436
02:18:44,759 --> 02:18:50,819
I will say, when I was in fifth
grade, there was a sports day.

2437
02:18:51,029 --> 02:18:54,059
And for some reason, I there was
a period in my life where I'm in

2438
02:18:54,059 --> 02:18:58,229
the fifth grade. I was pretty
decent at high jump. And I'm not

2439
02:18:58,229 --> 02:19:00,809
an athletic guy at all. Well,
except for my spin class now,

2440
02:19:00,809 --> 02:19:04,979
but and I recall that I got
pretty far I did okay, and then

2441
02:19:05,339 --> 02:19:09,989
I think I tripped or some stupid
like shrimp shrimp, the skin, my

2442
02:19:09,989 --> 02:19:13,289
elbows and high elbow. I was
gonna do the high jump, but then

2443
02:19:13,289 --> 02:19:18,149
I've big massive fail. And I was
disappointed. And I do recall,

2444
02:19:18,149 --> 02:19:21,839
they had what they called the
poodle prize. This is a Dutch

2445
02:19:21,839 --> 02:19:25,619
Hizam the poodle prize, which
may what would that be the booby

2446
02:19:25,619 --> 02:19:26,669
prize, maybe at a

2447
02:19:26,670 --> 02:19:29,610
movie, and I got to do the booby
prize. Anyway, that's another

2448
02:19:29,610 --> 02:19:32,220
point that wasn't made it in
this in this piece. And I liked

2449
02:19:32,219 --> 02:19:34,919
the booby prize because it was
one it was a yellow ribbon.

2450
02:19:34,919 --> 02:19:37,049
Yeah, it wasn't red or blue or
why it was a yellow ribbon. It

2451
02:19:37,049 --> 02:19:40,829
said you know like booby prize
and and I felt good but it was

2452
02:19:40,829 --> 02:19:44,759
just one you know, they had to
choose who had had tried the

2453
02:19:44,759 --> 02:19:47,759
hardest or showed some
excellence and was just an

2454
02:19:47,759 --> 02:19:53,249
awkward doofus and I think it is
so and I remember this and I

2455
02:19:53,249 --> 02:19:58,559
think but that it that did help
my self esteem. Well, it was

2456
02:19:58,559 --> 02:19:59,969
just one not for me.

2457
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:07,140
You'd better high jumper as the
question. No, of course not. The

2458
02:20:07,140 --> 02:20:10,890
thing is, you know, there's
arguments can be made that well,

2459
02:20:11,220 --> 02:20:13,650
these kids are well, you'll
actually the arguments made

2460
02:20:13,650 --> 02:20:16,020
better in the clips and I can
say so let's start going to this

2461
02:20:16,020 --> 02:20:17,280
self esteem clip three.

2462
02:20:17,550 --> 02:20:22,470
Everybody gets a trophy every
single time. What's the point?

2463
02:20:22,710 --> 02:20:26,670
Merriman says by creating the
illusion of success for children

2464
02:20:27,060 --> 02:20:32,070
by making them feel so special,
the self esteem movement has

2465
02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:36,120
failed to teach them how to
actually succeed. To Merriman

2466
02:20:36,300 --> 02:20:41,070
losing is good for you. Yeah,
well, those trophies not so much

2467
02:20:41,190 --> 02:20:44,730
I hate everybody gets a trophy
programs. You make it sound like

2468
02:20:44,730 --> 02:20:49,140
it's a felony to give a seven
year old a trophy. Why are you

2469
02:20:49,140 --> 02:20:50,520
such a Grinch about this?

2470
02:20:51,509 --> 02:20:55,799
I want kids to improve. And I
want kids to be engaged in the

2471
02:20:55,799 --> 02:20:57,059
process of improvement

2472
02:20:57,060 --> 02:20:59,670
if they get a trophy they won't
want to improve.

2473
02:21:00,180 --> 02:21:02,760
Why would they? Why do they need
to you've already given them a

2474
02:21:02,760 --> 02:21:05,310
trophy. You've made them be a
winner. Now the kids

2475
02:21:05,310 --> 02:21:10,050
in college and he gets to see
because that's what he deserves.

2476
02:21:10,530 --> 02:21:11,340
What happens?

2477
02:21:11,849 --> 02:21:16,199
Well, often they freak out,
freak out. Well, they don't

2478
02:21:16,199 --> 02:21:19,439
believe it. Something's wrong.
That teacher must be out for me.

2479
02:21:19,769 --> 02:21:21,629
Because he doesn't know how
great I am. And the

2480
02:21:21,630 --> 02:21:24,270
reason that Ken nice vocal fry
on that check, by the way.

2481
02:21:24,300 --> 02:21:28,590
Yeah, he thinks he's great. Is
because we told him that by

2482
02:21:28,590 --> 02:21:29,700
giving them trophies his

2483
02:21:29,700 --> 02:21:34,740
whole life. It's saying you're
special. Here's your 17th place

2484
02:21:34,740 --> 02:21:38,400
metal. And they make 17th Place
ribbons now.

2485
02:21:38,430 --> 02:21:42,840
No. Oh, yeah. Turns out all
those trophies and all the

2486
02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:46,410
praise don't lead to
achievement, they often lead to

2487
02:21:46,410 --> 02:21:50,940
delusion. Take the college
students study show that these

2488
02:21:50,940 --> 02:21:55,230
days they believe they're much
smarter than they actually are.

2489
02:21:55,500 --> 02:21:57,870
That percentage of college
students you think they're above

2490
02:21:57,870 --> 02:22:02,970
average academic ability has
gone way up over a time period

2491
02:22:02,970 --> 02:22:06,690
when actual performance is
either unchanged or down. So

2492
02:22:06,690 --> 02:22:07,890
that wait so

2493
02:22:07,980 --> 02:22:10,440
so their ability is either
stayed the same from let's say,

2494
02:22:10,440 --> 02:22:13,950
the 60s till today? Exactly,
yep. Or it actually went down.

2495
02:22:14,340 --> 02:22:17,400
But when you ask them what they
think of themselves, they say,

2496
02:22:17,820 --> 02:22:18,870
I'm fantastic.

2497
02:22:20,220 --> 02:22:24,120
Yeah, this is great. Now I want
to mention something here and of

2498
02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:27,930
course, interrupting it every so
often, like this guy, get away

2499
02:22:27,930 --> 02:22:33,570
with a large lifting of the
material. That's why this this

2500
02:22:33,570 --> 02:22:36,540
is this is already since it
started in the 80s. And those

2501
02:22:36,540 --> 02:22:40,410
are people that were you know,
graduating shortly thereafter

2502
02:22:40,410 --> 02:22:44,850
often these are the people this
is noodle boy. Oh toma people we

2503
02:22:44,850 --> 02:22:48,450
bitch about on the show
constantly. My wife complains

2504
02:22:48,450 --> 02:22:53,130
about these people they're lousy
workers. And then they don't

2505
02:22:53,130 --> 02:22:56,490
under they can't take criticism.
This is the biggest thing you

2506
02:22:56,490 --> 02:23:00,990
run into these a lot of people
are kids a lot of people under

2507
02:23:00,990 --> 02:23:04,500
the age of 30 or so they can't
take criticism

2508
02:23:04,830 --> 02:23:07,500
well worse when when they're not
at home after their you know

2509
02:23:07,500 --> 02:23:12,030
they move out when they're 31
they can't function it's

2510
02:23:12,030 --> 02:23:15,450
everything's unfair and that
guys do she doesn't do did not

2511
02:23:15,450 --> 02:23:19,680
have the I tried my best. Yet
they have their code on at five

2512
02:23:19,680 --> 02:23:24,750
to five they come in and 903 I
know. I know. They're

2513
02:23:24,750 --> 02:23:27,990
always coming late. In fact, you
used to. You didn't bitch about

2514
02:23:27,990 --> 02:23:31,800
it. You always said you're over
naevia I observed this motion

2515
02:23:31,800 --> 02:23:36,480
making book gun stuff. You would
always talk about how Ron are

2516
02:23:36,480 --> 02:23:39,420
hated everyone come in always
comes in late at the operation

2517
02:23:39,420 --> 02:23:41,400
not even worrying code. I met
with our coders and they're

2518
02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:44,520
crazy. Yeah, okay, that can
happen. Do you stood outside

2519
02:23:44,520 --> 02:23:47,430
once in Washington? People come
in with a clock

2520
02:23:47,430 --> 02:23:50,070
in your hand. That's right. I
said good morning. You're 45

2521
02:23:50,070 --> 02:23:50,880
minutes late.

2522
02:23:51,060 --> 02:23:53,850
Yeah, you would do that. And
they wouldn't take Oh, that's

2523
02:23:53,850 --> 02:23:56,790
Yeah. Okay. Thanks. Thanks for
the update. Nobody care. So

2524
02:23:56,790 --> 02:23:57,450
let's play this.

2525
02:23:57,750 --> 02:24:01,440
Well, there's that. That was my
authority, my authority.

2526
02:24:01,920 --> 02:24:02,670
Tremendous

2527
02:24:03,360 --> 02:24:04,920
self esteem for let's go on.

2528
02:24:05,250 --> 02:24:09,270
A recent survey revealed that a
third of college students say

2529
02:24:09,390 --> 02:24:14,280
they deserve at least a grade of
B if they simply attended most

2530
02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:18,510
classes in a course. But if you
think today's college kids are

2531
02:24:18,510 --> 02:24:22,500
pleased with themselves, wait
until you meet the generation

2532
02:24:22,500 --> 02:24:23,310
coming up.

2533
02:24:23,340 --> 02:24:26,880
Preschoolers sometimes now sing
a song to the tune of Farah

2534
02:24:26,880 --> 02:24:32,010
Chaka that goes like this. I am
special. I am special. Look at

2535
02:24:32,010 --> 02:24:33,900
me. Look at me.

2536
02:24:35,430 --> 02:24:38,820
God damn We're doomed. We need
Donald Trump.

2537
02:24:40,050 --> 02:24:42,840
I don't know what's gonna happen
to us with this group coming up

2538
02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:47,100
that sings that song it's this
is bad man. This is really bad

2539
02:24:47,100 --> 02:24:50,250
I'm glad that this was aired it
was done on a course on a sports

2540
02:24:50,250 --> 02:24:52,620
show that no but I don't want to
watch it. No one was forced guys

2541
02:24:52,620 --> 02:24:55,980
watch that show but did public
know it which is a shame because

2542
02:24:55,980 --> 02:24:58,410
this is really an outstanding
product that Gumball put

2543
02:24:58,410 --> 02:24:58,860
together.

2544
02:24:59,040 --> 02:24:59,970
I agree and

2545
02:25:00,989 --> 02:25:04,019
The thing about this, I've been
wanting to do this, like my

2546
02:25:04,019 --> 02:25:07,919
educational thing I've been
wanting to do is like,

2547
02:25:08,879 --> 02:25:12,089
this is what happened. So we
told you, you, Greg, John,

2548
02:25:12,089 --> 02:25:14,459
you're great. And then you said,
Yeah, I'm so great. I don't have

2549
02:25:14,459 --> 02:25:17,249
I can just promise this stuff
for decades and never deliver.

2550
02:25:17,459 --> 02:25:17,939
It comes.

2551
02:25:17,940 --> 02:25:22,680
Yeah. Whereas somebody else did
it. But it gets done. But this

2552
02:25:22,680 --> 02:25:25,230
is the show, I couldn't have
done it this well, because he's

2553
02:25:25,230 --> 02:25:27,870
out there in the field, getting
all these great quotes that I

2554
02:25:27,870 --> 02:25:30,300
you know, we don't do that sort
of thing on this show. But this

2555
02:25:30,300 --> 02:25:34,650
is just like, outrageous. So
let's play. This is the this is

2556
02:25:34,650 --> 02:25:37,230
a funny one that was near the
end of the presentation. This is

2557
02:25:37,230 --> 02:25:39,870
self esteem. What parents want
half

2558
02:25:39,870 --> 02:25:43,890
million kids nationwide. A few
years ago, she did the

2559
02:25:43,890 --> 02:25:48,360
unthinkable. She suggested that
not everyone should get a

2560
02:25:48,360 --> 02:25:48,840
trophy.

2561
02:25:49,529 --> 02:25:52,619
We used to give trophies all the
way up to the 19 year olds.

2562
02:25:55,110 --> 02:25:57,780
Are you telling me 19 year old
for the last place team

2563
02:25:57,780 --> 02:25:59,910
controllers, because you're
afraid of hurting their

2564
02:25:59,910 --> 02:26:00,810
feelings? Well,

2565
02:26:00,810 --> 02:26:03,180
it was just something that was
are always done.

2566
02:26:03,660 --> 02:26:07,350
Anderson decided that at least
the older kid should actually

2567
02:26:07,350 --> 02:26:10,620
have to win to get a trophy and
be told that's when the fun

2568
02:26:10,740 --> 02:26:11,910
really started.

2569
02:26:12,060 --> 02:26:15,750
Some parents went out and bought
their own trophies for the kid

2570
02:26:15,750 --> 02:26:17,280
for the whole team. In fact,

2571
02:26:18,570 --> 02:26:21,900
some parents went out and bought
trophies because you weren't

2572
02:26:21,900 --> 02:26:25,230
giving them trophies anymore.
They hate you. They must.

2573
02:26:25,770 --> 02:26:30,180
They were pretty angry. Yes. And
thought that we were crushing

2574
02:26:30,180 --> 02:26:34,020
the dreams of the little
athletes. Yes.

2575
02:26:35,070 --> 02:26:39,420
Every full Anderson reluctantly
still puts in an order for her

2576
02:26:39,450 --> 02:26:43,620
eight and under kids 1200
trophies in all,

2577
02:26:44,400 --> 02:26:48,210
they get trophies for showing
up. Yes. Or not showing up? What

2578
02:26:48,210 --> 02:26:51,870
do you mean for not showing up?
Regardless of if their name is

2579
02:26:51,870 --> 02:26:54,450
on the T on the roster, they get
a trophy.

2580
02:26:54,990 --> 02:26:58,740
Oh, and there's one more thing
we don't keep score, you don't

2581
02:26:58,740 --> 02:27:02,460
keep score. I want to make sure
I understand this before I

2582
02:27:02,460 --> 02:27:07,290
faint. You don't keep score in
the games now. And they get a

2583
02:27:07,290 --> 02:27:13,710
trophy on top of that. What are
you raising here, I know

2584
02:27:15,270 --> 02:27:16,590
that it's what the parents want

2585
02:27:16,740 --> 02:27:19,890
less than 10 minutes to go. Just
let you know.

2586
02:27:20,580 --> 02:27:25,740
And his last clip is does a
psychiatrist or brain student

2587
02:27:25,740 --> 02:27:29,070
are not a student but a
professor of brain studies or

2588
02:27:29,070 --> 02:27:33,570
something like that. And he, he
has this new term that was kind

2589
02:27:33,570 --> 02:27:36,450
of interesting. But play this
self esteem punch line.

2590
02:27:37,380 --> 02:27:41,130
With no score. Of course, there
are no losers and no one gets to

2591
02:27:41,130 --> 02:27:45,090
feel bad. But it's not just a
few critics who think this is

2592
02:27:45,090 --> 02:27:51,120
all wrong. It's also scientists
in white lab coats is the reward

2593
02:27:51,120 --> 02:27:55,350
circuit. Robert Klein and Juris
Doctor at Washington University

2594
02:27:55,350 --> 02:27:59,490
in St. Louis, who has studied
the brain and says there is

2595
02:27:59,490 --> 02:28:04,800
biological evidence that to many
rewards hurts us a lot more than

2596
02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:05,760
it helps us

2597
02:28:05,880 --> 02:28:09,180
the technical term is the
partial reinforcement,

2598
02:28:09,360 --> 02:28:12,990
extinction effect. And in
English, all that means is if

2599
02:28:12,990 --> 02:28:17,370
you constantly reward a kid, you
spoil them, and you don't build

2600
02:28:17,370 --> 02:28:20,790
a capacity for them to be
resilient to frustration.

2601
02:28:21,030 --> 02:28:24,720
Exactly. We're doomed. We're
doomed. We are doomed.

2602
02:28:25,140 --> 02:28:28,350
And the parents what the parents
want. And they throughout this

2603
02:28:28,350 --> 02:28:31,080
whole presentation. It was you
know, showing a lot of parents

2604
02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:35,280
so happy that he walks up to one
kid and says, Look, kid, cute

2605
02:28:35,280 --> 02:28:38,190
little kid, but you could tell
he's got no interest in any of

2606
02:28:38,190 --> 02:28:42,420
this. So you got a trophy? Yeah,
yeah, guy. But yeah. Where'd you

2607
02:28:42,420 --> 02:28:45,300
Where'd you come at first? No.
Second note. You came in last?

2608
02:28:45,300 --> 02:28:49,140
Yeah. came in last. And you
know, the mom is just beaming. I

2609
02:28:49,140 --> 02:28:53,670
mean, it's just really
borderline sick. Yeah, I mean,

2610
02:28:53,670 --> 02:28:54,120
it's

2611
02:28:54,750 --> 02:28:56,490
not borderline it is it is.

2612
02:28:56,699 --> 02:28:59,219
But gamble points out. He says,
Well, what you know, is this any

2613
02:28:59,219 --> 02:29:02,339
different than the parents who
drive their kids you know, to be

2614
02:29:02,609 --> 02:29:04,229
you got to you know, I mean

2615
02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:07,170
real, real good parents, parent
parents who are really

2616
02:29:07,170 --> 02:29:10,800
outstanding, and really care
about their kids. They've put

2617
02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:11,790
them on a leash.

2618
02:29:13,260 --> 02:29:19,410
But you don't want to get him
killed. Like you. So anyway,

2619
02:29:19,410 --> 02:29:22,410
this is the self esteem thing,
and it's coming to a head. Well,

2620
02:29:22,410 --> 02:29:22,620
that's

2621
02:29:22,620 --> 02:29:24,600
good work. John. I'm glad I'm
glad you put that together.

2622
02:29:24,600 --> 02:29:28,080
Because we've all we played the
joke clip about we don't have

2623
02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:33,360
winners. It's a problem. I don't
even know if it's reversible at

2624
02:29:33,360 --> 02:29:33,870
this point.

2625
02:29:34,950 --> 02:29:38,670
No, that is encoded so it's
ingrained is D I think the

2626
02:29:38,670 --> 02:29:42,930
Depression The Big O that'll
help. Yeah, like everything

2627
02:29:42,960 --> 02:29:47,160
crazy. And then these the kids
may reset but right now they've

2628
02:29:47,160 --> 02:29:51,690
got jobs and bang gang and there
they a lot of these kids are

2629
02:29:51,690 --> 02:29:56,580
these. These self esteem raised
kids with it with high like they

2630
02:29:56,580 --> 02:29:59,070
say with a college because they
think they're smarter. They

2631
02:29:59,070 --> 02:30:01,050
think they're better than their
They think they're smarter than

2632
02:30:01,050 --> 02:30:04,110
they are. They had this you see
it like you were bitching about

2633
02:30:04,110 --> 02:30:07,710
the I think people exactly. I
think I think I think I mean, we

2634
02:30:07,710 --> 02:30:11,340
don't know you don't you know,
do you have any facts or in and

2635
02:30:11,340 --> 02:30:15,810
I believe it gets worse. And I
And by the way, we were talking

2636
02:30:15,810 --> 02:30:18,930
about getting worse, I'm gonna
say that, from my experience as

2637
02:30:18,930 --> 02:30:22,080
a columnist who gets a lot of
feedback. I think some of them

2638
02:30:22,080 --> 02:30:24,690
comments that are coming in from
people or they're apparent that

2639
02:30:24,690 --> 02:30:27,690
these group this group is
permeated the entire tech scene.

2640
02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:34,020
Yes, I was going to go there by
by saying that it's so bad now

2641
02:30:34,020 --> 02:30:38,310
that people in command of
conversations, do not call

2642
02:30:38,310 --> 02:30:42,630
people out and say what you
think is irrelevant, because

2643
02:30:42,630 --> 02:30:46,650
they're afraid to offend them.
This is this is the bad part.

2644
02:30:47,310 --> 02:30:50,070
People who have parents, they're
now doing it with their peers.

2645
02:30:50,100 --> 02:30:53,130
They don't want to offend
anybody. This is why Donald

2646
02:30:53,130 --> 02:30:56,790
Trump resonates. I'll get off
the Donald Trump train now.

2647
02:30:59,310 --> 02:31:01,980
Good work on resonates with guys
like you? He does?

2648
02:31:01,980 --> 02:31:05,670
Yeah, he does. I would like to
finish up since we have our 10

2649
02:31:05,670 --> 02:31:08,610
more minutes with there was a
second video released of the

2650
02:31:08,610 --> 02:31:12,120
Planned Parenthood baby crushing
the baby choppers. Baby

2651
02:31:12,120 --> 02:31:12,870
choppers. Yep.

2652
02:31:13,289 --> 02:31:17,639
And fishing is more appropriate
when you crush them. So this

2653
02:31:17,640 --> 02:31:20,970
entire this entire thing that's
happening is falls under the

2654
02:31:20,970 --> 02:31:25,350
heading bad optics. Which I
haven't heard anyone use that

2655
02:31:25,350 --> 02:31:28,290
term yet, but that's what they
should be using. None of this is

2656
02:31:28,290 --> 02:31:32,490
necessarily completely evil or
illegal. But the particularly

2657
02:31:32,490 --> 02:31:37,830
the second video, the woman in
the second video is just scary

2658
02:31:37,830 --> 02:31:42,210
looking. Oh, she's a creep. Just
scary looking.

2659
02:31:42,240 --> 02:31:44,280
She looks like a ghoul. Yes, she

2660
02:31:44,280 --> 02:31:47,790
does. If you're you ask your kid
to draw Google and remember, you

2661
02:31:47,790 --> 02:31:50,790
get a trophy for drawing it no
matter what. Even if it sucks,

2662
02:31:51,030 --> 02:31:55,470
even if it sucks. So everyone
has this is this is very

2663
02:31:55,470 --> 02:32:00,030
disturbing for people before
Obama bots. So just categorize

2664
02:32:00,030 --> 02:32:04,620
him. It's very, very disturbing.
Because they can't get around

2665
02:32:04,620 --> 02:32:07,470
their head that something bad
would be happening at this

2666
02:32:07,470 --> 02:32:11,550
organization, which is headed by
just one of the most beautiful

2667
02:32:11,550 --> 02:32:15,900
women alive today. Cecile
Richards just saw this. This

2668
02:32:15,900 --> 02:32:19,500
woman is stunning, striking,
very photogenic and breaking.

2669
02:32:19,530 --> 02:32:23,280
Oh, she's just I mean, and she's
she's 50. She's my age, I guess

2670
02:32:23,310 --> 02:32:26,880
maybe a little older. It's just
striking woman she looks a lot

2671
02:32:26,880 --> 02:32:31,590
like Robin Wright in House of
Cards.

2672
02:32:32,610 --> 02:32:35,220
Yeah, that's the model. Yeah,
proof striking.

2673
02:32:36,090 --> 02:32:39,240
So before I play a couple of
select clips I've pulled from

2674
02:32:39,240 --> 02:32:42,090
the second video because I think
it is important that we play

2675
02:32:42,090 --> 02:32:45,870
that since is getting zero play
anywhere else. This is an MSNBC

2676
02:32:45,870 --> 02:32:52,710
some guest makes a comparison
will do anything now to cover

2677
02:32:52,710 --> 02:32:57,210
over the bad optics of what
Planned Parenthood has doing

2678
02:32:57,210 --> 02:33:00,510
with these with these videos, or
what is being done to them with

2679
02:33:00,510 --> 02:33:03,270
these videos really, uh, see how
they, how they speak and how

2680
02:33:03,270 --> 02:33:07,020
Cavalier they are. And I will
say, I know a lot of people in

2681
02:33:07,020 --> 02:33:09,720
the medical field if there's you
know, of course when you're

2682
02:33:09,720 --> 02:33:15,270
around death and sorrow and pain
and all kinds of shitty things,

2683
02:33:15,420 --> 02:33:19,380
then you you make you make light
of the situation. You know, you

2684
02:33:19,380 --> 02:33:22,170
talk about the patience and
probably not such a nice way if

2685
02:33:22,170 --> 02:33:24,480
the patient's heard it. That's
just what it is. It's just

2686
02:33:24,480 --> 02:33:28,440
matter of fact, you know, every
you should hear airlines the

2687
02:33:28,470 --> 02:33:34,710
pilots talk before I forget
there was I saw some guy who you

2688
02:33:34,710 --> 02:33:37,050
can chat in these planes you
know the other you can chat with

2689
02:33:37,050 --> 02:33:42,900
other passengers. Planes this
oh, this is on the Southwest has

2690
02:33:42,900 --> 02:33:43,410
it I think

2691
02:33:43,439 --> 02:33:47,249
I've seen this I've never even
thought ah, but there is

2692
02:33:47,250 --> 02:33:50,640
now a reason to do it. Okay,
because you're allowed to create

2693
02:33:50,640 --> 02:33:53,220
your own handle your own
nickname, though so you can do

2694
02:33:53,220 --> 02:33:55,920
it anonymously. Well, you could
Yeah, you can do it anonymously

2695
02:33:55,920 --> 02:34:01,950
which is bad so no, this guy you
know what his handle was pilot

2696
02:34:03,300 --> 02:34:06,210
and he was saying all right
everybody time to go let me just

2697
02:34:06,240 --> 02:34:08,970
put it in reverse and slowly
release the clutch that was just

2698
02:34:08,970 --> 02:34:10,410
the beginning. I was like hey, I

2699
02:34:11,130 --> 02:34:14,400
think it was the pilot. No, of
course not. Oh, just

2700
02:34:14,609 --> 02:34:17,699
just some Joker and you can say
all kinds of crazy shit big

2701
02:34:17,699 --> 02:34:23,519
avoid. The pilot just said this
as a no agenda tip. All right

2702
02:34:23,579 --> 02:34:28,949
here is MSNBC some person who
has no knowledge of how this

2703
02:34:28,949 --> 02:34:31,739
particular medical function
works in the real world, but

2704
02:34:31,739 --> 02:34:38,189
trying to use this to talk about
the legality and morality of the

2705
02:34:38,189 --> 02:34:39,149
baby crunchers.

2706
02:34:39,180 --> 02:34:41,340
Talk to me about those numbers.
I mean, to what degree do those

2707
02:34:41,340 --> 02:34:45,630
seem reasonable in the sort of
the course of medical transport?

2708
02:34:45,660 --> 02:34:48,060
Well, I think it's helpful to
understand what the money is

2709
02:34:48,060 --> 02:34:51,450
for. So I certainly have full
confidence that there isn't a

2710
02:34:51,450 --> 02:34:54,900
profit being made under these
circumstances. So imagine that

2711
02:34:54,900 --> 02:34:58,470
you do something familiar, like
you go to give blood. So you go

2712
02:34:58,470 --> 02:35:01,800
to donate blood, you go to the
Sun After you have a technician

2713
02:35:01,800 --> 02:35:05,550
who places an IV, you donate the
blood, the blood goes into a

2714
02:35:05,550 --> 02:35:09,000
little bag, the bag goes into a
little cooler, people have done

2715
02:35:09,030 --> 02:35:12,300
blood donation, right? So that's
someone's job who has to help

2716
02:35:12,300 --> 02:35:15,360
with the blood donation, make
sure the donated blood goes to

2717
02:35:15,360 --> 02:35:18,390
the appropriate place, it's
transported to the hospital. So

2718
02:35:18,390 --> 02:35:21,420
those are jobs people have. So
the cost there are costs

2719
02:35:21,420 --> 02:35:25,020
associated with donation. And
that's exactly what this is for.

2720
02:35:25,170 --> 02:35:28,590
So those are seem like
reasonable numbers that would go

2721
02:35:28,590 --> 02:35:30,060
along with that kind of
donation.

2722
02:35:30,510 --> 02:35:34,080
That's not how blood donations
work. I would like to remind

2723
02:35:34,080 --> 02:35:36,990
everybody, when you donate blood
to the Red Cross, who are

2724
02:35:37,020 --> 02:35:40,320
usually the people doing the
blood drive, they are the

2725
02:35:40,320 --> 02:35:44,580
primary source for purchase of
blood. They don't give it to the

2726
02:35:44,580 --> 02:35:48,540
hospital, they don't they put
the you could it is sold. There,

2727
02:35:48,540 --> 02:35:51,480
it's a huge amount of money. The
Red Cross is in the blood

2728
02:35:51,480 --> 02:36:00,840
selling business. Yeah, here we
go. Here's the Google, the

2729
02:36:00,840 --> 02:36:03,390
Planned Parenthood goal. And
maybe we should just say the

2730
02:36:03,420 --> 02:36:07,680
mouth, I'll hold that for later.
Here she is negotiating about

2731
02:36:07,680 --> 02:36:08,850
the price. And of course, he
was,

2732
02:36:08,880 --> 02:36:12,480
by the way illegal. What was
illegal, the negotiation of

2733
02:36:12,480 --> 02:36:14,670
those three things you name that
were illegal, and this is the

2734
02:36:14,670 --> 02:36:16,080
second one you can negotiate.

2735
02:36:16,650 --> 02:36:20,250
She was negotiating for price,
what would you expect

2736
02:36:20,310 --> 02:36:20,910
for

2737
02:36:22,350 --> 02:36:28,080
intact tissue? What sort of
compensation what sort of

2738
02:36:29,310 --> 02:36:30,360
ways to pay?

2739
02:36:30,510 --> 02:36:32,520
So you may not be able to hear
but she says why don't you start

2740
02:36:32,520 --> 02:36:35,070
by telling me what you want to
pay? Unless you're used to

2741
02:36:35,070 --> 02:36:36,180
paying used to paying? Yes,

2742
02:36:36,480 --> 02:36:40,620
I don't think so. I would like
to, I would like to know, what

2743
02:36:40,620 --> 02:36:42,900
would make you happy? What would
work for you?

2744
02:36:43,470 --> 02:36:45,750
You know, negotiate because the
person throws up the figure

2745
02:36:45,750 --> 02:36:47,220
first. So last, right. So

2746
02:36:48,150 --> 02:36:50,910
if you have to see the face on
this woman, which is well, you

2747
02:36:50,910 --> 02:36:53,820
know, in negotiation, the person
who throws out the number first

2748
02:36:53,820 --> 02:36:54,930
is at a disadvantage.

2749
02:36:54,960 --> 02:36:59,190
She actually says right there.
That's the incriminated

2750
02:36:59,190 --> 02:37:05,100
negotiations and negotiations.
No, I don't look at it that way.

2751
02:37:05,100 --> 02:37:10,080
I know you want to play that
game. I get it. No, I want from

2752
02:37:10,080 --> 02:37:11,040
you so low.

2753
02:37:11,100 --> 02:37:11,850
I don't want a low.

2754
02:37:13,860 --> 02:37:17,040
If you lowball I'll act
pleasantly surprised. And you'll

2755
02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:18,060
know it's low ball.

2756
02:37:18,390 --> 02:37:19,380
What I want to know,

2757
02:37:19,680 --> 02:37:22,890
can I say if this woman if I was
sitting there even if that were

2758
02:37:22,890 --> 02:37:27,270
that ghoulish face of hers. When
someone said that to me, I'd be

2759
02:37:27,270 --> 02:37:31,830
a you recording this shit.
You're going to negotiate with

2760
02:37:31,830 --> 02:37:37,650
me. And you just promise me if I
lowball the number, you're going

2761
02:37:37,650 --> 02:37:42,120
to act surprise, but same. Yeah,
no, it has to be more. What

2762
02:37:42,120 --> 02:37:46,170
point is this woman not saying
Hold on a second. Does that make

2763
02:37:46,170 --> 02:37:47,070
any sense to you?

2764
02:37:48,840 --> 02:37:52,830
I would be well as a couple of
things that I think you're this

2765
02:37:52,830 --> 02:37:54,630
river. I think there's a couple
of things that should be

2766
02:37:54,630 --> 02:38:00,150
mentioned one. She's so
cavalier, the woman the ghoulish

2767
02:38:00,150 --> 02:38:03,510
woman, she's so cavalier that
this has to be going on all the

2768
02:38:03,510 --> 02:38:09,180
time. Because if if there was
any sense of the impropriety of

2769
02:38:09,180 --> 02:38:13,470
this, in other words, that never
happens. She would be more

2770
02:38:13,470 --> 02:38:15,990
conscientious. And she would
say, Are you recording this?

2771
02:38:15,990 --> 02:38:19,290
Which is what you would do? Yes,
but But I'm guessing that this

2772
02:38:19,290 --> 02:38:22,530
because this is a common place,
which is overlooked by people

2773
02:38:22,530 --> 02:38:24,930
when they announce analyzed,
especially the ones defending

2774
02:38:24,930 --> 02:38:28,020
Planned Parenthood, this is
obviously such a common place

2775
02:38:28,080 --> 02:38:29,910
that none of this sticks out to
her.

2776
02:38:29,940 --> 02:38:33,630
I will actually sorry,

2777
02:38:34,890 --> 02:38:37,020
a little louder into my flour.

2778
02:38:39,330 --> 02:38:42,750
Yeah, at the beginning of this,
I saw the transcript at the

2779
02:38:42,750 --> 02:38:46,440
beginning, the name of the guy
or the woman, the shield's

2780
02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:49,470
undercover people actually say,
Wow, the radio is really loud.

2781
02:38:49,470 --> 02:38:51,780
You think we're gonna have that
turned down? I mean, come on,

2782
02:38:51,900 --> 02:38:56,340
come on. I'd be like, Why do you
want that turn down? That

2783
02:38:56,340 --> 02:38:59,160
doesn't make much sense. I'll
skip the rest of that clip. The

2784
02:38:59,160 --> 02:39:07,410
here's the second one. This is
another law breaking discussion

2785
02:39:07,890 --> 02:39:14,610
about changing the procedure,
the protocol. So in order to in

2786
02:39:14,610 --> 02:39:18,720
order to would the change in
procedure is not the issue. It

2787
02:39:18,720 --> 02:39:21,570
is telling someone you're going
to do a procedure and not

2788
02:39:21,570 --> 02:39:25,680
telling them you change the
procedure. That is illegal,

2789
02:39:26,010 --> 02:39:31,920
unless you have a problem. If
our usual technique is suction

2790
02:39:32,820 --> 02:39:37,260
10 to 12 weeks, and we switch to
using iPads or something with

2791
02:39:37,260 --> 02:39:39,870
less suction in order to
increase the odds that will come

2792
02:39:39,870 --> 02:39:43,920
out as an attack specimen, then
we're kind of violating the

2793
02:39:44,160 --> 02:39:47,460
protocol that says to the
patient, we're not doing

2794
02:39:47,460 --> 02:39:48,120
anything different

2795
02:39:48,150 --> 02:39:51,600
in our care. So I don't know if
it's if it's audible enough.

2796
02:39:52,320 --> 02:39:53,430
You can kind of hear me,

2797
02:39:53,670 --> 02:39:57,420
but I'll just translate it just
transcript on the fly. She says

2798
02:39:57,450 --> 02:40:00,180
look, if we change the protocol
from something with a sucks We

2799
02:40:00,180 --> 02:40:03,690
currently use something with
less suction, so you get more

2800
02:40:03,690 --> 02:40:09,720
chance of an intact, aborted
fetus. That's kind of she says

2801
02:40:09,720 --> 02:40:12,870
kind of a little bit fudging a
bit with the protocol.

2802
02:40:12,959 --> 02:40:17,249
To me, that's a kind of a
specious. And I wouldn't object

2803
02:40:17,249 --> 02:40:22,649
to asking certain test cases, to
use an IPS that that gestational

2804
02:40:22,649 --> 02:40:25,229
age in order to increase the
odds that he was going to get an

2805
02:40:25,229 --> 02:40:27,959
attack specimen. But I do need
to throw it out there as a

2806
02:40:27,959 --> 02:40:31,619
concern because the patient is
signing something loose on

2807
02:40:31,619 --> 02:40:33,869
something saying we're not
changing anything. We're

2808
02:40:33,869 --> 02:40:36,359
managing you just because we
need to give tissue

2809
02:40:42,300 --> 02:40:49,320
It's touching. Okay, how do you?
So what she says there is I

2810
02:40:49,320 --> 02:40:52,740
don't mind asking the surgeon to
do that. Then she says, I don't

2811
02:40:52,740 --> 02:40:55,830
think the patients will care one
iota. Again, the cavalier

2812
02:40:55,830 --> 02:40:58,410
attitude of just breaking the
law. I think that is an actual

2813
02:40:58,410 --> 02:41:02,160
law. That does not just
protocol, you can't do that. And

2814
02:41:02,160 --> 02:41:05,460
here is the part where if and I
think the mistake of this

2815
02:41:05,490 --> 02:41:10,500
campaign to discredit Planned
Parenthood is, is flawed because

2816
02:41:10,530 --> 02:41:15,540
this is really not that it's so
crappy, this this recording, you

2817
02:41:15,540 --> 02:41:19,860
don't have great quotes, it
can't really go super viral. And

2818
02:41:19,860 --> 02:41:22,680
so that's why they sex it up a
lot with editing and they sex it

2819
02:41:22,680 --> 02:41:25,860
up a lot, which is now pretty
much the primary defense this

2820
02:41:25,860 --> 02:41:28,920
heavily edited video, heavily
edited video, heavily edited

2821
02:41:28,920 --> 02:41:31,980
video, like the rest of your
shit isn't heavily edited.

2822
02:41:32,160 --> 02:41:35,190
here's the here's the bad
optics, if it's audible enough

2823
02:41:38,100 --> 02:41:43,470
to the editor, how we feel about
using less crunchy techniques to

2824
02:41:43,470 --> 02:41:44,580
get more or

2825
02:41:46,890 --> 02:41:48,330
less crunchy take near

2826
02:41:48,330 --> 02:41:49,920
the less crunchy technique.

2827
02:41:50,279 --> 02:41:53,549
Disgusting. This is remote for
some reason and that woman that

2828
02:41:53,549 --> 02:41:56,939
you know the beautiful, what's
her name look like? Cecile

2829
02:41:56,939 --> 02:41:59,549
Richards, she were you when you
start thinking if you look at

2830
02:41:59,549 --> 02:42:02,759
her differently, because of just
the way she handles herself. If

2831
02:42:02,759 --> 02:42:07,589
you start thinking back on the
old TV Series V. Yes. And you

2832
02:42:07,589 --> 02:42:11,549
man, you you look at the seal as
a reptile that would open her

2833
02:42:11,549 --> 02:42:18,719
mouth real wide down would go a
fetus. I mean, then you gotta

2834
02:42:19,019 --> 02:42:21,629
there's an optics for me try to
fight off that image. Yes,

2835
02:42:21,630 --> 02:42:23,880
for some reason, my lady parts
started to tingle when you

2836
02:42:23,880 --> 02:42:26,070
mentioned I don't know, that was
just really strange.

2837
02:42:26,910 --> 02:42:31,710
Well, I'm not gonna make comment
on that. But I would say this is

2838
02:42:32,220 --> 02:42:37,050
this is very, very bad in terms
of their image. Uh, yeah,

2839
02:42:37,080 --> 02:42:39,300
they're gonna fight. They're
just out to get us they're out

2840
02:42:39,300 --> 02:42:42,030
to get us they're out to get us.
But they're really trying to do

2841
02:42:42,030 --> 02:42:45,420
is to try to end the fight to
free taxpayer money that's

2842
02:42:45,420 --> 02:42:48,660
pouring into this. And then also
to make them follow the law.

2843
02:42:48,690 --> 02:42:52,410
There's some law breaking going
on. I'm doubt that these two are

2844
02:42:52,410 --> 02:42:55,140
the only ones I'm sure that oh,
well, you know, I'm sure the

2845
02:42:55,140 --> 02:42:57,210
guerrilla guys went and found
some people that would refuse to

2846
02:42:57,210 --> 02:43:00,150
do any of this and play along.
But I'm sure that they could

2847
02:43:00,150 --> 02:43:01,620
find plenty that would so

2848
02:43:01,620 --> 02:43:08,250
fetus mouth lady Cecile sent a
letter to Congress, saying, you

2849
02:43:08,250 --> 02:43:13,320
know, there may be more bad shit
coming, possibly racist. So

2850
02:43:13,320 --> 02:43:16,170
there's more coming and they
know it. And it's going to be

2851
02:43:16,170 --> 02:43:19,440
really bad racial stuff. It's
going to be it's going to be

2852
02:43:19,440 --> 02:43:22,560
crap. This is what you get. This
is what you get when you have

2853
02:43:22,560 --> 02:43:25,200
people who are in a business for
long time, but just cavalier

2854
02:43:25,200 --> 02:43:25,740
about it.

2855
02:43:26,910 --> 02:43:28,890
I just received a message and
they're sucking off the

2856
02:43:28,890 --> 02:43:30,930
government tit. Yeah. Oh, it's
government money.

2857
02:43:30,930 --> 02:43:34,950
Of course. Federal money,
federal. Yeah. And it's a lot of

2858
02:43:34,950 --> 02:43:38,430
money. And look, I know from the
medical community that Planned

2859
02:43:38,430 --> 02:43:43,740
Parenthood is always pushing
towards termination, that that's

2860
02:43:43,740 --> 02:43:46,170
what they do. It's their
business, it is their business.

2861
02:43:46,290 --> 02:43:48,990
They push towards termination,
which is fine. I don't care,

2862
02:43:49,020 --> 02:43:52,560
whatever you want to do. I have
my own opinions about life and

2863
02:43:52,560 --> 02:43:58,680
death and what is murder and
what is not. But it's going to

2864
02:43:58,680 --> 02:44:03,780
get really crappy. And I think
the Genesis kind of the backdrop

2865
02:44:03,780 --> 02:44:06,750
of why I have an issue with
Planned Parenthood when the

2866
02:44:06,750 --> 02:44:12,000
optics are bad is their founder,
Margaret Sanger was along with

2867
02:44:12,030 --> 02:44:15,450
Bill Gates, his grandfather, I
believe, father or grandfather,

2868
02:44:15,930 --> 02:44:20,040
they ran the eugenics Society of
America, and they sterilized

2869
02:44:20,610 --> 02:44:26,100
1000s of black men in
California, medically castrated

2870
02:44:26,100 --> 02:44:30,330
them that all kinds of crazy as
quotes about, you know, just

2871
02:44:30,360 --> 02:44:35,550
anyone not white Anglo Saxon. So
the the genesis of the

2872
02:44:35,550 --> 02:44:39,330
organization is, is killing
people is eugenics, the

2873
02:44:39,330 --> 02:44:42,090
eugenicist Society of America
you can look it up I'm not

2874
02:44:42,090 --> 02:44:45,900
making this up. And that was you
know, only a generation and a

2875
02:44:45,900 --> 02:44:49,590
half ago. So then when you add
to this the final kicker, which

2876
02:44:49,620 --> 02:44:51,600
you may or may not have, you
have John because you know, you

2877
02:44:51,600 --> 02:44:54,990
saw the video, this about this
compensation thing where she

2878
02:44:54,990 --> 02:44:57,990
comes back and she says, you'll
hear what she says. You know,

2879
02:44:57,990 --> 02:45:00,480
it's been so long since I've
thought about comping Session.

2880
02:45:00,540 --> 02:45:03,030
Yeah, that's because she's been
doing it for so long number this

2881
02:45:03,030 --> 02:45:07,320
is a new group coming in wanting
to do new prices. And she has

2882
02:45:07,320 --> 02:45:08,880
something in mind. It's been a
year since

2883
02:45:08,880 --> 02:45:12,150
I've talked about cessation. So
when we just figure out what

2884
02:45:13,170 --> 02:45:17,070
this is, and that's fine. You

2885
02:45:26,970 --> 02:45:29,370
so she says, I want to make sure
we're not low balling I'll check

2886
02:45:29,370 --> 02:45:31,950
with what we're receiving in
California admitting that that

2887
02:45:31,950 --> 02:45:36,840
happens. Because I want a
Lamborghini guy says what this

2888
02:45:36,840 --> 02:45:42,960
is I want a Lamborghini. So does
that mean that she expects is

2889
02:45:42,960 --> 02:45:46,980
that her way of of telegraphing
that she wants to pay off for

2890
02:45:46,980 --> 02:45:50,280
the deal? Because that's the way
I read

2891
02:45:50,280 --> 02:45:54,030
it. Oh, idea. So I know as a
dad, you're talking about

2892
02:45:54,030 --> 02:45:55,620
optics. That was bad. That's the

2893
02:45:55,620 --> 02:46:03,480
worst optics in the world. All
right. I think what do you

2894
02:46:03,480 --> 02:46:07,080
think? Do you want to wrap it
up? Or you got one more kicker

2895
02:46:07,110 --> 02:46:07,440
to

2896
02:46:07,470 --> 02:46:11,070
click one kind of a kicker this
was on. This was a very funny

2897
02:46:11,070 --> 02:46:14,130
thing. This Martin O'Malley
because Martin O'Malley is a

2898
02:46:14,250 --> 02:46:17,040
Democrat who was speaking in
front of a bunch of Phoenix

2899
02:46:17,040 --> 02:46:20,130
Democrats. Liberals as they like
to put it on Fox it

2900
02:46:20,130 --> 02:46:24,330
was this the Netroots Nation
thing? Sorry, Netroots Nation.

2901
02:46:24,570 --> 02:46:28,350
No, no, no, sorry. This was that
may have been but I don't know.

2902
02:46:28,350 --> 02:46:30,810
I think it's just some meeting.
And he's talking about Black

2903
02:46:30,810 --> 02:46:35,880
Lives Matter. And he made a
mistake. And Kelly, Megan guy

2904
02:46:35,880 --> 02:46:38,040
had to leave Kelly's little
commentary because she's always

2905
02:46:38,040 --> 02:46:39,150
making snide remarks.

2906
02:46:39,990 --> 02:46:43,530
That's just what your woman
making snide remarks is very

2907
02:46:43,530 --> 02:46:44,040
trying.

2908
02:46:44,040 --> 02:46:48,930
Yes. I can imagine her on a
date. You're gonna order that

2909
02:46:48,930 --> 02:46:49,230
really?

2910
02:46:50,610 --> 02:46:53,640
You asked me to do what? Why?

2911
02:46:54,360 --> 02:47:01,770
You get the wrong girl. Your
house. Martin O'Malley says he

2912
02:47:01,770 --> 02:47:06,000
says something just casually and
gets booed. When he says all

2913
02:47:06,000 --> 02:47:09,750
lives matter. And it was not the
right way I understand it. I

2914
02:47:09,750 --> 02:47:11,880
understand what was going on
here. Because I've studied this

2915
02:47:11,910 --> 02:47:15,000
or studied I've had to deal with
this sort of thinking, but the

2916
02:47:15,000 --> 02:47:18,180
way they played it. It's very
funny. This is the play this

2917
02:47:18,180 --> 02:47:18,450
clip

2918
02:47:18,570 --> 02:47:24,210
every life matters. And that is
why this issue is so important.

2919
02:47:24,510 --> 02:47:28,320
Black Lives Matter. white lives
matter. Oh.

2920
02:47:30,810 --> 02:47:33,720
That's Democratic presidential
candidate Martin O'Malley

2921
02:47:33,720 --> 02:47:37,470
getting heckled at a liberal
convention for actually saying

2922
02:47:37,500 --> 02:47:40,950
all lives matter. Imagine that
he then leader came out and

2923
02:47:40,950 --> 02:47:44,850
apologized for saying that he
sorry.

2924
02:47:48,030 --> 02:47:51,720
I was walking past to Starbucks
yesterday and the here in Austin

2925
02:47:51,720 --> 02:47:57,060
that's on what is it? Third
Street? Near Lavaca? I think.

2926
02:47:57,510 --> 02:48:00,660
And there's this couple of
benches outside and blue is

2927
02:48:00,660 --> 02:48:03,360
interesting. typesetting their
bloods right in the same

2928
02:48:03,360 --> 02:48:05,970
building as the W so there's a
lot of people who work in the,

2929
02:48:06,240 --> 02:48:09,930
you know, in the backstage at
the W they actually have a door

2930
02:48:09,930 --> 02:48:14,940
right there, which is backstage
entrance. But it's for people

2931
02:48:14,940 --> 02:48:16,620
making less than 15 bucks an
hour.

2932
02:48:16,920 --> 02:48:20,730
Yeah, that's why they call the
actors. Yeah. And that's a

2933
02:48:20,730 --> 02:48:21,660
Disney trick.

2934
02:48:21,690 --> 02:48:27,090
Yep. There was a conversation
going on as I walked by, and I

2935
02:48:27,090 --> 02:48:29,640
hear this black guy saying, you
know, I don't I don't like the

2936
02:48:29,640 --> 02:48:34,080
Black Lives Matter movement. I
think all lives matter. And I my

2937
02:48:34,080 --> 02:48:37,020
feeling and I've had this for a
while just in just in general.

2938
02:48:37,020 --> 02:48:41,910
Just I got my ears open that
black Americans don't like this

2939
02:48:41,910 --> 02:48:45,810
idea. They feel it's even more
divisive. Or divisive.

2940
02:48:46,050 --> 02:48:49,770
I'm sure it's divisive. But one
of the ESPN guys got nothing but

2941
02:48:50,400 --> 02:48:54,240
harassed and he's one of the
more outspoken spoken one of

2942
02:48:54,240 --> 02:48:58,710
these announcers Stephen A Smith
and he said I don't get why they

2943
02:48:58,710 --> 02:49:01,770
booed this guy for saying all
lives matter. He said why don't

2944
02:49:01,770 --> 02:49:04,500
we bitching about black on black
violence nobody ever brings up

2945
02:49:04,500 --> 02:49:09,570
exactly and he got a rat here
rang this by the way as part of

2946
02:49:09,570 --> 02:49:14,370
his self esteem thing. Ah, this
is all part of this this this is

2947
02:49:14,370 --> 02:49:17,070
a problem that's growing I mean,
this guy Steven a Smith would

2948
02:49:17,070 --> 02:49:19,560
not be the kind of guy that
would they would be harassed by

2949
02:49:19,560 --> 02:49:23,670
anybody but this is going on at
all levels of society where you

2950
02:49:23,790 --> 02:49:26,700
have these things you're
supposed to say you better say

2951
02:49:26,700 --> 02:49:29,730
him Yeah, a certain way and
they're and I can explain and

2952
02:49:29,730 --> 02:49:32,520
I'll do it on the next show. I'm
trying to do this on the next

2953
02:49:32,520 --> 02:49:38,580
show. Why all black lives matter
as a statement is it has a

2954
02:49:38,580 --> 02:49:43,170
different meaning than and why
they would boo O'Malley or

2955
02:49:43,170 --> 02:49:43,890
anybody else

2956
02:49:43,890 --> 02:49:47,100
nice tease. You went from the F
block to the a block of next

2957
02:49:47,100 --> 02:49:47,700
show.

2958
02:49:48,960 --> 02:49:52,320
rationale for this and I have
anecdotes about it now and it is

2959
02:49:52,440 --> 02:49:55,860
again the beginning of the end
for the culture. It's self

2960
02:49:55,860 --> 02:49:57,120
esteem thing continues but

2961
02:49:57,120 --> 02:50:01,800
I cannot leave us now without
big As of the this being about

2962
02:50:01,800 --> 02:50:07,050
race, the incredible racial
statement made by our brand new

2963
02:50:07,050 --> 02:50:12,510
Attorney General, Loretta Lynch,
the country singer. And she came

2964
02:50:12,510 --> 02:50:18,750
out and talked about the federal
indictment of Dylann Storm Roof.

2965
02:50:19,620 --> 02:50:22,200
And how anyone can say that name
with a straight face is still

2966
02:50:22,200 --> 02:50:27,120
beyond me. Dylann Storm Roof at
the AME Church, you're

2967
02:50:27,120 --> 02:50:31,290
saying it wrong? It's Dylann
Storm Roof Oh, yes.

2968
02:50:31,290 --> 02:50:37,020
Dylann, Storm Roof, Storm Roof
Storm Roof all based on just

2969
02:50:37,020 --> 02:50:40,110
supposition, you know, no
evidence, no statement, no

2970
02:50:40,140 --> 02:50:45,060
statement from from this from
this kid. And of course, what

2971
02:50:45,060 --> 02:50:47,760
caught my eye is, you know, the
magic number here today to

2972
02:50:47,760 --> 02:50:51,600
announce that a federal grand
jury in South Carolina has

2973
02:50:51,600 --> 02:50:53,850
returned a 33 count indictment.

2974
02:50:53,910 --> 02:50:56,160
I mean, you just got to stop
when you hear that when you hear

2975
02:50:56,160 --> 02:50:59,670
a 33 count indictment. That
means pay attention, no agenda

2976
02:50:59,670 --> 02:51:04,770
listeners and listen to the word
she's using. About this guy

2977
02:51:05,100 --> 02:51:10,710
based on as far as I know, zero
statement zero evidence. And

2978
02:51:10,710 --> 02:51:14,910
just cuz it's a racist racist
press conference

2979
02:51:14,940 --> 02:51:19,230
against Dylann Storm Roof,
charging him with federal hate

2980
02:51:19,230 --> 02:51:23,520
crimes and firearms charges for
killing and attempting to kill

2981
02:51:23,640 --> 02:51:27,240
African American parishioners at
Emanuel African Methodist

2982
02:51:27,240 --> 02:51:30,030
Episcopal Church in Charleston,
South Carolina.

2983
02:51:30,060 --> 02:51:35,580
Now notice that she says hate
crimes, federal hate crimes. So

2984
02:51:35,580 --> 02:51:39,150
these carry a much stronger
penalty, because if you kill

2985
02:51:39,150 --> 02:51:43,770
somebody, then it's different.
If you kill somebody while you

2986
02:51:43,770 --> 02:51:47,460
hate them, abuse clearly don't
love them if you kill them. So

2987
02:51:47,490 --> 02:51:50,160
I've never understood a crime is
a crime, whether you've done it

2988
02:51:50,160 --> 02:51:52,170
out of love, hate whatever it's
a crime,

2989
02:51:52,500 --> 02:51:56,340
because of their race, and in
order to interfere with their

2990
02:51:56,340 --> 02:52:00,180
exercise of their religion,
really stepped forth in the

2991
02:52:00,180 --> 02:52:03,990
indictment. Several months prior
to the tragic events of June

2992
02:52:03,990 --> 02:52:08,580
17th. Ruth conceived of his goal
of increasing racial tensions

2993
02:52:08,580 --> 02:52:11,850
throughout the nation and
seeking retribution for

2994
02:52:11,850 --> 02:52:15,600
perceived wrongs that he
believed African Americans have

2995
02:52:15,600 --> 02:52:17,310
committed against white people.

2996
02:52:17,370 --> 02:52:21,450
So our Attorney General is
saying that this guy did this

2997
02:52:21,630 --> 02:52:26,970
because he wanted to increase
racial tensions in America. I

2998
02:52:26,970 --> 02:52:31,080
have a hard time believing he
said that. And I've seen have

2999
02:52:31,080 --> 02:52:32,250
you seen any evidence I haven't

3000
02:52:32,250 --> 02:52:34,890
seen in each statement from him.
To carry

3001
02:52:34,890 --> 02:52:38,670
out these twin goals of fanning
racial flames and exacting

3002
02:52:38,670 --> 02:52:43,230
revenge. Ruth further decided to
seek out and murder African

3003
02:52:43,230 --> 02:52:47,640
Americans because of their race.
An essential element of his

3004
02:52:47,640 --> 02:52:52,230
plan, however, was to find his
victims inside of a church,

3005
02:52:52,440 --> 02:52:54,660
specifically an African American
church.

3006
02:52:54,720 --> 02:52:56,190
Did he write a manifesto I

3007
02:52:56,190 --> 02:52:59,340
didn't read or something i There
must be some deposition or

3008
02:52:59,340 --> 02:53:00,300
something nothing.

3009
02:53:00,330 --> 02:53:02,490
I can't find anything that says
this

3010
02:53:02,550 --> 02:53:06,870
to ensure the greatest notoriety
and attention to his actions as

3011
02:53:06,870 --> 02:53:07,500
alleged

3012
02:53:07,710 --> 02:53:12,210
roof set alleged there it is as
alleged, as alleged out the

3013
02:53:12,210 --> 02:53:17,550
evening of June 17 2015, to
carry out this plan and drove to

3014
02:53:17,550 --> 02:53:20,820
the Emanuel African Methodist
Episcopal Church in Charleston,

3015
02:53:20,820 --> 02:53:25,440
South Carolina, known as Mother
Emanuel. Mother Emanuel was his

3016
02:53:25,440 --> 02:53:28,800
destination, specifically
because it was an historically

3017
02:53:28,800 --> 02:53:32,220
African American church of
significance to the people of

3018
02:53:32,220 --> 02:53:36,510
Charleston of South Carolina and
to the nation. On that summer

3019
02:53:36,510 --> 02:53:40,860
evening, Dylann Roof found his
targets, African Americans

3020
02:53:40,890 --> 02:53:44,580
engaged in worship that was
welcomed by the ministers of the

3021
02:53:44,580 --> 02:53:45,990
church and his parishioners

3022
02:53:46,080 --> 02:53:48,870
a bit did he hate God? Did he
hate the church? I mean, why,

3023
02:53:48,900 --> 02:53:53,820
why there's no real explanation.
But to say his goal was to get

3024
02:53:53,820 --> 02:53:56,670
black people who are praying
Yeah, that's what I want to do.

3025
02:53:56,700 --> 02:53:57,810
Come on.

3026
02:53:57,870 --> 02:54:01,440
He joined them in their Bible
study group that parishioners

3027
02:54:01,440 --> 02:54:06,720
had Bibles Dylann Roof had his
45 caliber Glock pistol and

3028
02:54:06,720 --> 02:54:09,510
eight magazines loaded with
hollow point bullets.

3029
02:54:09,540 --> 02:54:14,220
That is I mean, this is not a
press statement. This is a this

3030
02:54:14,220 --> 02:54:19,620
is a novel. The parishioners had
Bibles he had a Glock 45 with

3031
02:54:19,620 --> 02:54:24,390
hollow point bullets, and not
acting much like a lawyer other

3032
02:54:24,390 --> 02:54:27,630
than one who wants to win a case
regardless,

3033
02:54:28,140 --> 02:54:30,570
and a set forth in the
indictment. While the

3034
02:54:30,570 --> 02:54:34,170
parishioners of Mother Emanuel
are engaged in religious worship

3035
02:54:34,170 --> 02:54:38,100
and Bible study, Dylann Roof
drew his pistol and opened fire

3036
02:54:38,100 --> 02:54:42,570
on them, ultimately killing nine
church members. Now, as you

3037
02:54:42,570 --> 02:54:45,480
know, the state of South
Carolina is also prosecuting

3038
02:54:45,480 --> 02:54:49,320
roof for the murders, attempted
murders and firearms offenses

3039
02:54:49,470 --> 02:54:52,470
that he's alleged to have
committed. We commend the South

3040
02:54:52,470 --> 02:54:55,830
Carolina State authorities for
their tremendous work and their

3041
02:54:55,830 --> 02:54:59,610
quick response. It is important
to note however, that South

3042
02:54:59,610 --> 02:55:04,170
Carolina No does not have a hate
crimes statute. And as a result,

3043
02:55:04,380 --> 02:55:08,580
the state charges do not reflect
the alleged hate crimes offenses

3044
02:55:08,580 --> 02:55:11,610
presented in the federal
indictment returned today.

3045
02:55:11,790 --> 02:55:14,610
And that's what I think this is
about. I believe this is another

3046
02:55:14,610 --> 02:55:19,350
move by the federal government
to say, shut up with your states

3047
02:55:19,350 --> 02:55:22,980
rights view, you've got to do
this. And there. I think the

3048
02:55:23,940 --> 02:55:29,670
Attorney General is shaming the
state into passing you just

3049
02:55:29,670 --> 02:55:32,130
shaming them in anything shaming
them to do something,

3050
02:55:32,910 --> 02:55:34,500
they get a hate crime law
passed.

3051
02:55:34,530 --> 02:55:37,980
And this is no different than
the intent. And and we haven't

3052
02:55:37,980 --> 02:55:40,530
really talked about this. This
is no different than the

3053
02:55:40,530 --> 02:55:44,010
Confederate flag issue. The
whole point of this exercise was

3054
02:55:44,010 --> 02:55:46,920
to for the federal government to
tell the state what to do.

3055
02:55:48,990 --> 02:55:50,160
That's what this is about.

3056
02:55:51,600 --> 02:55:52,830
Well, that's what they're gonna
do.

3057
02:55:53,280 --> 02:55:56,700
Well, yeah, of course. I'm not
saying that we can win, John.

3058
02:55:56,700 --> 02:55:59,190
There's no winning. No, just

3059
02:56:01,110 --> 02:56:05,250
tell each other seeker. There's
no winning No. And why should we

3060
02:56:05,250 --> 02:56:12,240
want to win? The fun out of it
at first, we'll

3061
02:56:12,240 --> 02:56:13,410
keep score.

3062
02:56:13,439 --> 02:56:14,729
Oh, don't do that.

3063
02:56:14,850 --> 02:56:17,580
I'm erasing my minus two points
from earlier in the show.

3064
02:56:18,150 --> 02:56:20,130
Are you going back to No,
there's

3065
02:56:20,130 --> 02:56:22,230
no scores. I'm not taking score
anymore. Oh,

3066
02:56:23,430 --> 02:56:30,600
yes. Good point. Good point. All
right, everybody. We will have

3067
02:56:30,600 --> 02:56:35,550
another show on Sunday. Looking
forward to it. And we'll start

3068
02:56:35,550 --> 02:56:40,170
to working on my acceptance
speech for the podcast Hall of

3069
02:56:40,170 --> 02:56:40,380
Fame.

3070
02:56:41,070 --> 02:56:43,680
Oh, yes. We have talked about
that a little bit off. Off

3071
02:56:43,680 --> 02:56:46,560
camera off. I do want to talk
about I'm going to talk about

3072
02:56:46,560 --> 02:56:51,150
the Black Lives Matter why this
phrase itself is different than

3073
02:56:51,150 --> 02:56:54,000
saying white lives matter. And
also I have a deconstruction

3074
02:56:54,000 --> 02:56:58,980
coming up of this. John Stewart
Obama, little Anita Tay which

3075
02:56:58,980 --> 02:57:02,760
includes a number of very
interesting tidbits that I think

3076
02:57:02,760 --> 02:57:03,630
were overlooked by

3077
02:57:04,710 --> 02:57:07,170
coming to you from FEMA Region
six here in the crock pot condo

3078
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in the capital of the drone Star
State in the morning, everybody

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I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
I'm John C. Dvorak we'll

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be back on Thursday so sun
Sunday right here on no agenda

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and that's the story Girl Scouts

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02:57:35,610 --> 02:57:36,120
yes The

3084
02:57:36,120 --> 02:57:36,750
beaches are back

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02:57:48,840 --> 02:57:55,170
find over Afghanistan or maybe
it was Pakistan. I promised

3086
02:57:55,170 --> 02:58:01,410
myself to aim myself at every
woman child and man that was on

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02:58:01,410 --> 02:58:07,260
my list. I don't care if I
missed I'm remote controlling I

3088
02:58:07,260 --> 02:58:13,410
do what I'm told by someone come
you know Obama gave me a push

3089
02:58:13,710 --> 02:58:18,510
more than Bush and I cost
millions were supposed to target

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02:58:18,540 --> 02:58:23,970
terrorists but not so much
civilians I don't know why to

3091
02:58:23,970 --> 02:58:34,500
say up some got in my way a
drone again naturally a drone

3092
02:58:34,500 --> 02:58:37,920
again naturally

3093
02:58:42,000 --> 02:58:51,480
Amen. ISIS we will follow them
to the gate

3094
02:58:53,280 --> 02:59:06,480
ISIS we need to kill them we
need to kill them. bomb them.

3095
02:59:07,620 --> 02:59:12,930
bomb them. bomb them and bomb
them again

3096
02:59:30,540 --> 02:59:41,100
we need to kill them. We need to
kill them. bomb them. bomb them

3097
02:59:41,820 --> 02:59:49,230
and bomb them again and bomb
them again a bomb then bomb them

3098
02:59:49,950 --> 03:00:00,450
and bomb them again and bomb
them again a bomb. Bomb them and

3099
03:00:00,720 --> 03:00:16,500
kill them bomb them and kill
them bomb them again bomb them

3100
03:00:16,500 --> 03:00:29,250
again we need to kill them again
we need to kill them and bomb

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03:00:29,250 --> 03:00:29,970
them again

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03:00:34,740 --> 03:00:43,200
adios mofo just boomerang.org/n
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