Why do you want to turn down? Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. It's
Thursday, July 23 2015. time once again for your Gitmo nation
media assassination Episode Seven.
This is no agenda.
Jade Helm 15 plus eight and counting broadcasting live from
the capital the drone star stakes in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and for brothers Silicon Valley where I'm wondering what Jane
Jane Hill is that her name? I don't know. I'm John C. Dvorak
scale. I'm keeping track man I'm keeping track Jade Helm started
on July 15. The big mega poll in the MiG a military exercise.
Yeah, my wife brought this up. No, she says what is this Jade
Helm crap. Why is everybody all upset about
all jacked up on the Jade Helm man? I said
it's nothing. It's just some bullcrap it was anything
important. They wouldn't have told us about it.
Well, that's true. And well, along those lines. I went to
dinner with the former of the ex banker from New York.
He said yeah, get a little update. First I
have to tell you he's he's still he's all in on Greece actually
exiting the Eurozone.
And he still does he still promising a big run up in the
euro. Yes. Now collapse down to what but
I didn't bring that one up for them. But boy was funny. Is you
know to he's the guy that is always telling me you know,
always joking about my conspiracy theories and that
conspiracy show you
this is typical, by the way everybody does. Oh, yeah.
And all of a sudden he's like, but you know, Seattle is about
to get a whole bunch of earthquakes. Do you know about
the Ring of Fire? I'm like, holy crap. People like you laughed at
me seven years ago. They're talking about the Ring of Fire.
And the fire ring of fire just the but it's just that it's just
that it's a tectonic plates. It's just not anything
conspiratorial. It's a fact. Oh, I
know. I know. But it was funny that he just came out like you
know
well, this is something going around up there. Mimi brought
this up too.
Do you guys ever do you ever do you guys ever like say hey I
love you honey or anything? Is it always
Ella time Hey,
hey you hear by the Ring of Fire? No, she
didn't talk about the Ring of Fire she talked about the bigger
earthquake the bigger what happens if it does? Yeah. Okay,
she better get a ham radio just talking about oh would have you
know this is when you're when a slow news day. What would happen
if all hell broke loose out of the blue in our area? Of course.
And you know there'd be these tsunamis and Seattle would be
devastating because they don't know anything about buildings.
Portland flattened.
Yes.
I love this happens once every 30,000 years. I love it
Ring of Fire. Everybody bring a fire? Well, there was a new
report, the new NASA research. I don't think it was peer reviewed
or anything but they released it. And that began. Yeah, that
began a number of interesting little news items. We haven't
started the show off with this kind of stuff in Oh, I don't
know at least three Shows. So kind of start off.
Are you going back into global warming? Yeah.
And ominous forecast. But more scenes like this surging
floodwaters and rising in the future that could be major
flooding along every coast. So says a new study that warns the
world's seas are rising. Demand for rod has that part of the
story.
Ever warming Oceans Melting polar ice could raise sea levels
15 feet in the next 50 to 100 years. NASA's former climate
chief now says five times higher than previous predictions. Well
this is the biggest threat that the planet faces. James Hansen
co authored the new journal article raising that alarming
scenario
if we get sea level rise of several meters all coastal
cities become dysfunctional note He's the former the head of NASA
climate change this is
that guy it's not that he mentioned his name James Hansen
does that name ring a bell? He is the guy who was the number
one climate warmest he's gonna start it at all
Yes, I know. He's great. They
did they mentioned his name Michelle here he is again that's
why they should preface it Oh yes. Who
know it's former NASA that adds credibility to it and they had
they keep bringing back polar bears on pieces of ice in Hawaii
they
stopped doing that because they know the polar bear Yeah. Grown
Yeah. Now here appears Democracy Now sums it up a little quicker.
Same bullcrap stories play at the end bore global warming. Oh,
yes,
I got it. Okay.
Former NASA scientists As James Hansen, who first raised
concerns about climate change in the 80s, has warned that sea
levels could rise as much as 10 feet before the end of the
century and less greenhouse gas emissions are drastically the
rise would make cities such as London New York and Shanghai
uninhabitable This comes as new data shows that this past June
was the hottest on record breaking the previous record
which was set last year
this Okay, listen to the EURO NEWS propaganda. They don't even
I don't even think they mentioned the report. They just
so all in like, whatever. We'll just put together a two minute
piece on it
this June 2015 was the hottest June Since temperature records
began in 1880. Experts are saying governments should treat
climate change as seriously as threats national security or
public health. The no agency also says the first half of this
year has broken heat records last year was already the
hottest yet. Last month in Pakistan morgues in Karachi
population 20 million and hospitals were overwhelmed.
Officially, more than 1150 people died.
Now listen to this little throwaway line.
44 degrees Celsius coincided with power cuts and the Muslim
holy month of Ramadan, when faithful abstain from eating or
drinking by day.
Hello, hello. Hello. If you don't eat or drink all day, then
it's 110 degrees. Yeah, you might succumb. Yeah. Can we
change this Ramadan to the winter?
Oh, okay. Now let me I'm going to do the by the way, they were
the one if you notice there was the Journal of some crazy
journal. It wasn't just any old journal of obscure climate
scientist who has nothing else to do something like that, that.
That is exactly the title. Your first reporter
just said the journal they would like what journal The Wall
Street Journal, the journalists who they don't know. Okay, I'm
going to do the test to just check it out. Let me I'm going
to stand up and look out the window at the mud flats. Because
the bay which is the butt fence of the San Francisco Bay, which
is hooked to the Pacific Ocean, although I know it takes a you
know, like 400 days for a foot of rise in the Atlantic to show
up everywhere. But here we go. Let me get here. I'm gonna
go low standing up now. Yeah, yeah, okay. And the mud flats
are still there no difference in title. There's the same
former flooding. Former technology columnist John C.
Dvorak says, climate change is not happening.
No rising tides is not happening. Well, that's
not that is not the right message.
In India in May, the 47 degree heat killed some two and a half
1000
people which I think is low 47 centigrade that should have
killed 10,000 people.
Yeah, especially in India. I think it's lovely
in Andhra Pradesh yet, and Telangana states an
international team wrote in the journal Science that ocean
levels rose between six and 13 meters when temperatures were
around a minute.
How come I don't have beachfront property in Austin? He feet
underwater. Where is it? Where's the tsunami feet
slightly higher than today's in prehistoric ice Thor's Oh, I'm
sorry? That that's 30 feet in previous ice thaws slightly
higher than today. So I guess today we're only 25 feet. Man I
bet I better get the aero bed pumped up.
That study warned of a possible repeat. Even if governments cut
greenhouse gas emissions, a top researcher hands your FM shell
and Hoover has said only the
right that's a good name. Well, I'm gonna name again. Ah,
Barbara schellnhuber was
named rosette Johanna crfm Sheldon Hoover has Hans
Joachim Shallan. Homer. Pleasure to make your acquaintance
said only the induced implosion of the carbon economy offers a
chance to avoid possible disaster
I like this the induced implosion of the carbon economy
this is nice implosion of the carbon economy this is a this
well that's a gem that's something that we got to be on
the lookout for and a term that may come back to haunt us Yeah,
write that one down
the proverbial snowball's chance in hell. Perhaps he said in the
end it's a moral decision. Pope Francis to with Casa sistema
when the Pope said recently our house is going to ruin and that
harms everyone, especially the poorest. Emil I don't mind is
therefore an appeal for responsibility based on the task
that God gave man in creation do I lead said oh man no Neela
Korea to that he keeps the gun done in which he was placed. In
journeyman
post man that Latin is boring to listen to, isn't it?
High level activists like shallon Hoover have emphasized
the costs of the coming economic
oh wait, what's a high level activist? And by the way, how
objective is an activist, not very
high level activists like shallon, Hoover have emphasized
the costs of the coming economic transition away from fossil
fuels to be paid by the world's rich rather than than the
poorest contribute maybe 1% of emissions. It's the richest, he
said, who need to change their behavior.
Very nice. Yeah, change your behavior, change your behavior.
And
it's just the same oh, let's find some way the whole thing is
out of balance. The whole world is out of balance. We got people
living in mud huts, and some instance central says everyone
has to have the has to have a cell phone. And well,
that's definite an iPhone in every part. You got everyone in
the right cell phones come first and computers, and then maybe
they can live us a decent shell. And then whatever the case is
kale, we have to any kale, we have to pay for it. Yeah, of
course, because we don't live in mud huts.
And then there's this conference right now of Evangelicals about
priests and parishioners, and whatever. Guys with floppy
pointy hats, print trade shows, in France, France, and they got
a special red dash alpha message in two parts from none other
than the Terminator.
Now, I've stopped, of course, in a lot of science fiction movies,
as you know, but let me tell you something. Climate change is not
science fiction. This is a battle in the real world is
impacting us right now. This is bigger than any movie. This is
the challenge of our time. And it is our responsibility to
leave this world a better place than we found it. But right now,
we are failing future generations. So I challenge you
to go home after this meeting is over after this conference is
over. To your congregations, to churches, to mosques to temples
in the follow us and inspire them to fight for clean energy
future. We must do everything that we can to communicate
better, and to preach and inspire people to join our
crusade.
Climate change is real. It's real. It's real. It's real. Join
the
crusade. Nice. Wow. Yeah. So ratcheting it up? It's almost
throwaway at this point. Yeah. Hey, we got some math to be
block. We need to get on the shelf that's
got a bunch of climate change stuff backing up.
That's just getting stale. Yo. We gotta we gotta air that.
I put in the sea blog. We got to be blocked guy. No
problem. Good. Good work. Good show everybody. Indeed. All
right. Well, there you have it. Yesterday, I was driving to San
Antonio.
By the way, I still know that there are people that listen to
this show that cringe when we do any of this because they're all
in and they can't, we can't break them out of it. And
meanwhile, there's actual scientists, people have actually
like Schwarzenegger who has never, you know, picked up a
test tube.
And by the way, his video. He's still sitting in front of an
American flag and the flag of the People's Republic of
California. Like he's still the governor of the Gaminator. He's
still sitting there we can imagine the guy you walk into
his home for a meeting about a movie and you get with these
flags with the eagle the gold eagle on the masks and stuff on
the flagpole. It's a little pathetic, or I wonder if
he signs his movie contracts with 30 pens.
Just the outright Robo Robo pen.
The pen because you give one huge sign one letter and you
give it to somebody signed up. They give it to somebody else.
Oh, right. Yes. Everyone can witness it. Yeah. Nice. So I'm
driving to San Antonio. Yesterday, I explained the jokes
now I get it. I'm driving to San Antonio. I'm sorry. I'm driving
to San Antonio yesterday. And ice and I'm like see something
that I thought
he wanted to say something now? Yeah,
please. I'm gonna say it right now. And this was my first
spotting of a drone in the sky. Oh, cool. Pro. My word is this
thing was out. It was fast. Because I saw this like, this
thing flying over i 35. And
was it a big to give us an idea of the size of it.
It's very hard to tell from the ground, which is, you know, one
of the problems is when in fact, it looked a lot like a like a
small commuter jet or regional jet. It was that big. It seemed
that big. I know it Can't have been that big. But once I saw
the shape of it and I saw the tail tail, the landing gear kind
of flopped out where they have kind of a long, long struts on
the landing gear. Oh yeah and then then then it really is like
a predator or something one of those
it wasn't it was a rebirth. It didn't have the bump on the on
the on the head. Okay, but at first I thought wow, that's
that's a remote control airplane going, why they don't fly that
over the highway. And then I thought Wait, it is a remote
controlled airplane only it's a drone. And it was booking and it
made a curve that must have been five G's. And then flew back
over. Yeah. Just flying it over. I 35
it fallen? Yeah. I did carry this. Thought did cross my mind.
Ronnie, why did why don't you take him out? And the thought
crossed my mind briefly to take him out
briefly.
Let him go. Please tell me about it on the show. But she talks
about on the show. Yeah.
That I'm talking about on the show. And I wanted to tell
people, you know, I get a lot of emails. This is important to me.
You're soliciting email?
No, I'm not soliciting. You know, people like why are you
sniffing on the show? Yeah, and, you know, because the first
thing that for some reason people always say, oh, you
should stop doing coke on the show. It's like, Yeah, really?
No.
This thing Adam on coke could be pleasant.
Could you imagine we could try it as an experiment.
Oh, God, it'd be the worst show.
Running production right now.
No, but I wanted to say that this is of course it's as my
nasal problems started with the mold. But then it became a tick
that I'm trying to I'm trying to get rid of and
now you're just sniffing randomly? Yeah, I haven't
noticed it. It's funny somebody part
of the Tourette's and it's really, really fruit bugs me? It
fruit bugs because when I'm trying to here's the how the
tech works. I've tried to sniff without cutting through the
noise gate. It's like why am I doing this? Insane Tom and it's
only on the show. It's not in real life when I'm walking
around you picked up
salad that's interesting. Well, yes. Yeah, that sounds like some
Turetsky thing.
Yeah, I know what my Tourette's is. I know what it is. So that's
why I went to San Antonio I'm working when the see might
psychotherapist well, and to get my MK Ultra programming of
course.
That could be one surprise me. Oh, I'm working as you've been
going on about this. I had to go get thick tissues. Let's do a
little sniff snort moment. Good. That's broadcast
I am a Connecticut School of broadcasting alum. That my
friends is broadcasting right there.
Show them how it's done.
So Cameron over in the Gitmo nations of UK which we've always
seen as our beta test for the the complete and total police
state that face it UK is way ahead of us. He finally came out
with well they still haven't come out with the actual
extremism legislation that I've been tracking which is going to
help us understand how violating certain British values would be
deemed as extremist views and therefore you can be penalized
by law so he did a speech at I think some school somewhere
and we should put a list together of these things like
you know, British, you know basis for all just like kicking
a beggar. Well, I don't think they
would not I don't think that would be a problem, though. It's
actually much much worse than that John? Much much worse, but
and I hope we do not Well, eventually we'll get everything
they have and get mo east over here and get more proper and we
are in big trouble. We are let me say me specifically. Okay.
The because conspiracy theorists, if you got conspiracy
theories, you are pretty much a terrorist. Okay, you laugh, my
friend. But it ain't all that funny.
But you don't have to support violence to subscribe to certain
intolerant ideas, which creates a climate in which extremists
can flourish. ideas which are hostile to basic liberal values.
What could those ideas be hostile to basic liberal values?
What kind of
high being against gay marriage
such as democracy freedom, sexual equality, ideas which
actively promote discrimination, sectarianism and segregation?
Ideas like those of the two despicable far right, which
privilege one identity to the detriment of the rights and
freedoms of others. And I did
that. Just keep that in the back of your mind. Just keep that in
the back of your mind. But now listen to what
the actual issue is, is just an attack on Fairbridge.
Oh, that's what he meant by the far right, of course. But it
gets worse also based
on conspiracy, that Jews exercise malevolent power, or
that Western powers in concert with Israel are deliberately
humiliating Muslims because they aim to destroy Islam. In this
warped worldview, such conclusions are reached that 911
was actually inspired by masa to promote the invasion of
Afghanistan,
we are going to be locked up.
Why never heard that one
gotta be locked up. Now,
all the British security services knew about seven seven,
then didn't do anything about it because they wanted to provoke
an anti Muslim backlash.
I don't know about they wanted to promote the anti Muslim
backlash. But there was a drill on the same day, which was set
up. I'm sorry.
Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, but this exercise,
yes. And which when active or whatever you want to call it so
that is now now you're a terrorist. If you if you talk
about such I can't talk about it.
And like so many ideologies that have existed before where the
fascist or
like this guy was the most anti British they have ever heard.
Communist, he's the one who should be in jail. Good luck
with that, a fascist or communist?
Many people, especially young people, are being drawn into it.
Yes. Now, of course, we need to, we need some solutions for this
gone into what what did he say drawn into being a terrorist by
propagating
conspiracy theories drawn into the you, Kip? Well,
that comes in a moment, you're, you're one clip ahead of me,
because that, of course, is the kicker. But I still need to wind
you up with what he wants to do with internet. You couldn't you
can guess what it is obviously, you know,
internet companies to go further in helping us identify potential
terrorists online, do it yourself. commercial models are
built around monitoring platforms for personal data,
packaging up and sending it on to third parties. And when it
comes to doing what's right for their businesses, they're happy
to engineer technologies that track our likes and dislikes.
But when a lot of Facebook looking at you comes to doing
what's right in the fight against terrorism, too, we too
often hear that it's all too difficult. Well, I'm sorry, I
just don't buy that. They've shown the internet companies
have shown the vital work they're doing in clamping down
on Child Abuse images that they can step up with as a moral
imperative to act they've done brilliant work brilliant, it's
now time for them to do the same to protect their users from the
scourge of radicalization scourge.
A scourge of radicalization is well there you go. That is just
the start. And you will hear this meme being propagated I
think everywhere Hey, if you can get rid of kid kiddie porn, why
can't you get rid of extremism?
Yeah, that's kind of what Feinstein was driving out with
that it hearing that we put it posted on the show and that guy
it was a Comey wouldn't wouldn't buy into what she was talking
about. He was thinking well you know we need this is not about
really doing what they say this is about just tracking people
for the purposes of long term black man that
is exactly what Cameron said. He said these companies are great
at tracking your likes your dislikes. That's the way I heard
it. They're really good at that we need to engage that skill,
that talent
and so they can track track you and a vote for you, Kip. Are you
going to vote for the conservative All right
here we go vote for here it is here is the clip you've been
wanting to hear
and then something else we need to do. We need to put out of
action the key extremist influences
on put out of action. What does that mean put out of action?
Does that mean shoot them dig a shallow grave? That's what I
that's what I thought put out of action. Is there a way I didn't
look that up? Let's see. Put it no way you don't have to look it
up. I want to see if there's a definition.
Definition put
out of action. Well, there is definition of put out of action.
You know, I got it English definition dictionary. Let's see
if that includes killing. Well, let's hope so. The state or
process of doing that. put out of action. Mm
hmm. Sounds like he's threatening to me. This is
another discussion we throw well,
he is threatening and you're about to hear who is threatening
and there's something else we need to do. We need to put out
of action. The key extremist influences, the key extremist
influences influences are careful to operate just inside
the law jetlag so
that means they're being lawful. Yeah. So we need to kill let's
just try and They put out about we need to kill the key
extremist influences which I guess are going to be defined in
the next 15 seconds who are operating just inside the law so
that means if you're operating just inside the law which would
be I don't know lawful lawful lawful then we need to kill them
but who clearly detest British society and everything we stand
for these people aren't just extremists they are also
despicable far right routes to
we need to kill Nigel Farage as what he said what he's saying
there are also far despicable far
right groups to and what links them all is their aim to groom
young people and brainwash their mind
unlike what you're doing, Mr. Cameron that is that is some
very dangerous talking
that wasn't so or that give you a clip of the day really don't
you think that was kind of a it was kind of almost Clip of the
Day give me almost Clip of the Day
no that's we that's called something else. Oh, I forgot
called the borderline clip or the
borderline Clip of the Day
borderline Clip of the Day. It's that is so dangerous what this
man is saying. Gustin what is what is interesting a took me
because I got the transcript. But it took me 15 minutes to
find the full speech the BBC had cut it down and did not include
any of that of course. And that was that was copied by Guardian
by independent everyone was using that same clip of the full
clip was hard to find it wasn't even on any government website.
Yet it Youtube, Youtube, Youtube, of course. YouTube of
course, that's where you find all the good style. Exactly.
Now, you talked about Feinstein knuckle up she was on what was
she on? I think state of the nation or or state of the earth.
What does it state state the facts.
Face the Nation face the press base to pre Meet the Press to
Face The Nation. And it was about the Meet the nation and
face the press. I think that's that's what it is. Again for
shows.
She was talking about the Chattanooga shooting, which by
the FBI is on admission. They do not know if he was radicalized.
They just don't have that information yet. It was also
hard to get all the information from him because he's dead. But
she turned it right into some cyber stuff. Where she Hello.
Oh, what is happening here? I'm sorry, here we go.
On Thursday, Mohammed Youssef Abdulazeez went on a shooting
spree at a marine facility in Chattanooga, killing five. Do we
have any idea any intelligence about what radicalised
Abdulaziz?
Well, not at the present time, but
just so you he just said right there? Do we have any idea what
radicalise the guy with even though the FBI, by their own
admission says they don't know if he was radicalized? And
Feinstein doesn't say? Well, let's hear what she says.
Although that's being investigated, as you know, a
team has been sent to Jordan to explore that further. But John,
in my view, based on what I know, so far, this is a classic
lone wolf, terrorist attack.
Classic John is a classic, where they don't actually know if the
guy was radicalized from the get go. It's not
like classic lamb murder. For all we know, where do you think
she's
gonna take it where she's going to take this, but she's not
going to take
it the murder next year,
2014 ISIL or dash had sake, say it in the area.
They always keep trying to slip the dash. And I don't know why.
But it's not working.
I put out a call for people to kill military people, police
officers, government officials, and do so on their own not wait
for direction. It could well be that this is that case. Here's
somebody who had guns who knew how to use them.
Let me see. Let me see if I tick all the boxes. Do I have guns?
Yes. Do I know how to use them? May have
been agreed by one thing or another. But this is all
changing. And here. Here's how it's changing. Okay. It is now
possible for people if they're going to talk from Syria to the
United States or anywhere else to get on an encrypted app.
encrypted by the government with a court order. Oh, my find me
and this is extraordinarily dangerous.
Is this extraordinarily dangerous? Okay,
now I'm, I'm the guy doing the interviewing here. And I'm
saying I first what would be the first thing I'd ask her? i Oh,
you don't know. No, I don't know. Because really, he doesn't
either. Yeah. And the thing you say, Well, that's all well and
good. But how would it be having this? Say maybe we didn't even
have any encryption? How would that have changed anything? In
this case?
This kind of comes to fruition in the rest of the interview
done by the
government with a court order And this is extraordinarily
dangerous straordinario
Is this the new state of affairs, which is to say there's
no way he could have been caught by some kind of a screen
intelligence couldn't have caught him. So is this just what
life is going to be life? And I think
to a great extent it is. This concerns me very greatly. I had
less visual to me that Chief counsel's of the internet
companies pointed this out. Ask for help. There is also
Hi, I'm Dianne Feinstein, can
you help on the internet? A stack of documents?
She asked him for help or they ask her for help.
She said she asked them for help. Okay, that's what she
said. But there's also apparently a stack of documents
on the internet. Oh, really, it's probably like a HyperCard
stack or something a
stack
of documents stack. It's not a stack. It's a stack of documents
that tell you how to make a bomb that goes through a magnetometer
where to sit on the plane to blow it up suggest some people
to kill and is extraordinarily dangerous.
I've asked I don't think the stack by itself is
extraordinarily dangerous
internet companies to take that off they will not do it unless
they are mandated to do it by law. So you have a pre
determined kind of propaganda effort that with a too few
clicks somebody cuz
you few clicks, clicks now she said too few clicks with too few
years ago, I like this. I like that.
I've asked the internet companies to take that off, they
will not do it unless they are mandated to do it by law. So you
have a pre determined kind of propaganda effort that with a
too few clicks, somebody can get to and it's very sophisticated.
There's the sort of seduction all about where they do if they
want to come come to Syria and train if not what they should do
in this country.
Nice and her head is gone. I don't buy it. This what is it?
What don't you buy,
I don't buy any of it. I think she's full of crap. If I'm an
internet company, whatever that means. But let's say I'm an
executive and an Internet company since the company itself
is just an entity that's filed with the State Department this
Department of State or state I'm an executive with XYZ and I was
running something a little slow and somebody says to me hey, you
got this this terrorist document that's floating around with too
few clicks somebody can find it it's gonna tell him to kill the
police department. And it shows you how to make a bomb it goes
through a thing. I go look and Oh, yeah. And then you take it
down you just take it down. It wouldn't even be you wouldn't
need to be forced to take it down something you don't want on
your site.
She was very unclear. I think maybe she
doesn't want it on their site. Nobody wants it on their site.
We
have it on our site. I'm sure we do. We have all come we have the
Unabomber manifesto on our site, which well as he posts up like I
don't want to download that man. You have to
do we have on our site, a mecca how to make a bomb that blows up
on an airplane thing?
Yes, we have a copy a PDF copy of How to make a bomb in the
kitchen of your mom. Yeah, we got that. Of course I saved
that. That's That's news gathering. Very important to
have that taken off. Now Mike morale, the former deputy
director of the Central Intelligence Agency, who by the
way, and I said by the way, he is now a senior correspondent
for CBS News.
Yeah, I noticed that Yeah. Any
he's dressing up in in swanky shirts now like blue kind of
blue satin. Mic. No.
And by the way, let me say by the way, just said it myself.
You got it. You got me saying, Hey, man, let me say this, about
that. Have you know a lot of these things are on the lot of
these documents on the internet are bogus. They're honey pots.
They're made. They're made by intelligence agencies.
Yeah, most of them in fact, that whole magazine is made by an
intelligence agency inspire inspire magazine fire, and it
shows you how to blow up. For all practical purposes. It is a
methodology to blow yourself up.
Yeah, there's no no different than Abbie Hoffman steal this
book or the Anarchist Cookbook. I would love to have
I would love to get better material in it. I
would love to have a vintage copy of steel this book. I
remember I remember reading that when I was 10. Yeah, what did it
tell you to do? It told you how to make a table out of a cable
spool
That's what I remember. I remember though and then
how to, you know, on the second touchdown to the Super Bowl,
everybody should flush their toilet at the same time. But I
don't think I don't know if that still works. I don't think it
ever worked. And then there were some some you know the book
Abbie Hoffman Steelers book is well worth reading that you
could not publish that but even that reasonably tame book you
could not publish today. He just couldn't do it people be all up
in your grill and
because people don't like it because the furniture industry
is against tables and gold tables, spool tables, whatever
they're called, you asked
me things that you know, I have the same answer as you do. Don't
ask me that. Let's go back to my Morel team. He goofed up and he
he let something slip in this and his analysis of the the lone
wolf the lone wolf the lone wolf that I found to be quite
enlightening maybe part of the the truth always wants to come
out series. Yeah,
morels never been that talented at keeping a secret certainly
for an
agency man. I think he's very poor at it. Very poor. That's
why he wasn't in the field. You know, put that guy
that he is yeah, that's always out. CBS News Senior security
contributor, Michael Morel
is senior security contributor. Nice. And Mike is what I would
Yes. I want to say just throw this in. I know people that you
know, they come in and out of media jobs like this. They
demand these titles.
Of course, of course. Hey, I'd want that
they can't be a security analyst or whatever they have to be a
senior SECURITY CORRESPONDENT years are
typical with this warning. They use the word senior because it
means something and in most situations, like in publishing a
lot of these things like senior senior contributing editor just
means you don't do anything. It's a bad title. You don't want
that.
Well, his his his cock up fits his job title.
CBS News, senior security contributor Michael Morel is
with us from you can
even hear Charlie Rose tripping over garlic. Really, this
fuckers he wants to be senior security analysts really that's
what he wants. You can hear like seniors.
CBS News Senior security contributor Michael Morel is
with us from San Francisco. He is a former CIA deputy director,
Michael. Good morning.
Good morning, Charlie.
What is the implication of this attack? And is it the worst some
threat of the future?
So surely, we still don't know what motivated this young man? I
would not be surprised if we found out that he was indeed
motivated by ISIS or another Islamic extremist.
Mike, none of us will be surprised if that was the
conclusion. None of us
knew zation. I think that's where we're going to end up
here. That would make it the most significant ISIS inspired
attack that we've had on our soil. So really,
the most significant ISIS inspired attack?
Well, what do you think?
I don't know if it's the most significant one.
I don't know if there's any other ones was listening
before. There was the hatchet attack in New York City. And
then of course, there was the attack in Texas, the attempted
attack in Texas, so this would be the third. By far the worst.
This is the wave of the future. Charlie, this is not surprising
to me. People have been warning about this for months.
Michael, you are
busy now. I love all this first. You know, it's like you've been
warning about it. We've been warning about it. People have
been warning about it. Oh my goodness. It happened
here on this show warning of this very type of attack,
including at Mattel,
wait a minute, did he want this very type of attack or just
something at a military base or not? Including at
Mattel military facilities? How was it that he was not on any
terrorism watch list and that his father was at some point but
then removed.
Now the key here, I think I didn't know this. His father was
on a watch list. Did you know though I didn't know this
either. But I think that is the key is to what he says next, or
there was at some point but then removed.
So this is the most worrisome part of this kind of threat that
you can have a young man who may not be in any contact with a
foreign intelligence or a foreign terrorist organization
or
no contact with a foreign intelligence organization. Now,
Mike, we know you meant to say that, because of course, of
course they were part of a foreign intelligence
organization. That's exactly what's going on here. Maybe not
so foreign either
who is in his own home in his bedroom, in his basement,
watching videos that's going to websites.
And by the way, I'm jerking off to porn is completely self
radicalized.
In contact with foreigners or with anybody in the United
States,
have you noticed that the the terms that are being used to
describe self radicalized use youths are exactly the same as
when bloggers first came out? In the base? Some guy in the
basement
he sandwiches?
Grilled Cheese, grilled cheese eaten grilled cheese sandwiches.
Exactly. So we're not that far away from Baghdad Lucas.
He said something else It was amusing.
Shoot I'm sorry I just dropped the clip what was it that he
said that was amusing? I can't
remember I just remember was amusing and I have to revisit
it.
Okay, hold on one second to the problem. If I dump a clip they
don't need the excuses. I'm just trying to fill time until the
ball game until the slider fills up from my tweets Yes. Read from
your tweets please. It's taking a long time for the for the
slider bar to show up it's it's it's a flaw in the in the
software. Oh, here it is. Okay, let's
Harris organization, Nora, but who is in his own home in his
bedroom in his basement, watching videos, going to
websites who is completely self radicalized without any contact
with foreigners or with anybody in the United States that is the
most dangerous because they can go out and do something. And
nobody knows anything about it except them.
What was the funny thing?
I don't know it was it before that. But I think the word
foreigners is one of them. I mean, using these words, but
okay, that let's assume what he said is true. There in the
basement, go into websites, dreaming empty stuff on their
own. They're not talking to anybody else, which by the way
means that this encryption argument all the crashes is
specious. Perfect. It's bullcrap is no reason to have any of
this. All of these encrypted Yeah. Oh, that's good. All
right, bust everyone's encryption. No reason to do
that. Apparently, if you listen to this, this thesis, that's
right. And then he goes off into this is a criminal. This is a
criminal act. People do stuff like this. This has been going
on. We have a high crime rate in this country. This is a
variation of that. So
what do we really have a high crime rate?
We have a higher crime rate than a lot of places. Not as high as
that say, you know, Uganda, but it's a high crime rate.
ixnay on the Buganda, Yay, I'm going I don't want a high crime
rate.
Gun is one of our guys. in Accra. It's not accurate, by the
way. It's a craw. We've been pronouncing it wrong all these
years.
I don't think I've ever had the word a cry in my mouth ever
across
your 20 plus years. They've word in your mouth, but then again,
yeah,
exactly. Yes.
Now, let's go to go over this. This is ISIL has been around for
what? Three years now? For some like that? Yeah. Yeah. Let's say
let's say three. Yeah, just give them benefit of the doubt. Make
it three. Yeah,
we've had three. Look at their articles of incorporation.
Obviously, we've
had we've had three events. They probably had more than a few
meetings. We've had three crappy events. One of them was like,
egged on by this woman, you know that one in Texas? And then the
other one is some guy with an axe running around Aw, big
threat. Yeah. And now this guy. Yeah, this is low, low numbers.
Yeah. And that does, I don't see why they want to make people
shake their boots or get to do a better job than this.
And you know, and so they're talking about this encryption,
which of course, we all know what what what is ultimately
going to happen. There will be some government sanctioned
encryption system. That will be the the official way to do it.
And everyone will be using that. I'm sorry, it will have
backdoors. That will of course, it will have backdoors.
Which means it's useless because if the government has the key to
the backdoor, so with the criminals
Well, it's interesting because the way it's going now with the
most recent wired expos A, we're going to have backdoors into
your vehicle. I'm sure you I'm sure you I have a little audio
report of what I'm sure everyone saw what started
as an ordinary highway drive. quickly turned terrifying for
Andy Greenberg.
Okay, hold on tight. Hold on. Oh, as hackers
remotely took control of his 2014 Jeep Cherokee, sending him
into a ditch Greenberg, a reporter for Wired Magazine did
this on purpose. Working with cybersecurity experts hackers to
show how some connected cars can be vulnerable.
That seems to be fun. So I can only imagine if the same thing
was done to you without any forewarning whatsoever how much
fear that couldn't steal someone
hackers in the Wired article access to the Jeep through its
infotainment system to change the radio and the AC and in a
much more dangerous move. To kill the engine.
You got to turn the car off. The two researchers believe that as
many as 471,000 vehicles are potentially vulnerable. They've
only verified that on a 2014 Jeep Cherokee
Chrysler, which owns Jeep released a software update this
month and says it has a team focused on identifying and
implementing software best practices, including
cybersecurity for all vehicle content, including onboard and
remote services. Just today, a bill introduced in Congress
would require that connected cars protect drivers against
cyber criminals with encryption I presume and have technology
that can stop a hack in real time. If
that means we'll be monitoring 100 million cars in real time to
stop a cyber attack in real time as cars become more connected,
they are introduced. Well, what's interesting, according to
the Wired article, the way this hack works is, as long as you're
on the Sprint network and can ping an IP address, then what
they were showing, apparently, is that you can get GPS
coordinates and and then through the entertainment system, which
sounds just as bogus as the totally bogus. I mean, what
these guys did is they loaded new firmware onto the cam chip,
which really controls all the the management of the vehicles
functioning. Okay, so you're telling me that you, you were
able to install that?
Well, they had to install? Let me read a note from a guy, one
of our producers who talked about this a little bit Oh,
good. Based on the picture, that Jeep would have a Chrysler
Uconnect audio climate control system, it does not have the
capability to play or transmit video to the screen, which they
claimed to have done with the exception of the rear camera.
And that function is actuated by putting the transmission in
reverse, and you can't
they claim that they showed up on the video screen in the car,
which has, yeah, it's possible if you if you're in there
changing the firmware, this just reeks. I didn't
shave, you hacked the whole car and you put a new system and you
could do anything. This is like, oh, you know, the brakes don't
write the brakes dark, they can be hacked because you can cut
the brake lines. I mean, this, this doesn't count. Let's go on
with some of the stuff this guy says you have to put the
transmission in reverse to get the camera to turn on or to get
into the camera subsystem, the windshield wipers on that
particular car actuated by a physical switch on a stock they
don't have they're not in vo really. They're not according to
him, he they're not involved with the rest of the subsystems.
It's mechanically impossible to for the RPMs to climb while the
car decelerates unless a transmission is shifted into
neutral and the transmission is not controlled by the UConnect
system.
What is our producers? Yeah, what is his credibility level
does
you have a high end tech kid at a company that does well that's
what I wanted to hear
that's that's the kind of techies obviously, that's the
kind of the bit about
jerking the seatbelt. By the way. I got into a beef on
Twitter, I'm getting sick of this. But this happens all the
time. I said well, how are you going to be I said, this sounds
like bull crap to me. How are you going to be jerking the
seatbelts and I have a bunch of well there are some systems that
their lane control system.
I know that guy I know that guy onto it. You know that? Yeah.
A good guy that could jerk the system. So I looked it up
because nobody they're gonna just throw it this is the I
think phenomenon that you've been bitching about. Well, I
bitched about it after the show. So we should pause. We'll talk
about it later because I have some examples in the show today.
So that you know this and that I looked it up No, the Jeep
Cherokee system of the of the lane control system involves a
visual signal and then they jerk the steering wheel, which is the
way most of them work. This does not involve the seatbelts. Okay,
let's go on that bit about jerking the seatbelt and taking
over the steering wheel and the 22 through 2013 experiment
again, complete bullshit. Those items are not electronically
actuated system, these two idiots would have had to
physically grab the seatbelt in the steering wheel in order to
things meant to do things mentioned in the article. The
best one hacking into the brake system is not only completely
false, but also reckless journalism. I don't know what
that right. Oh, reckless journalist, record journalist
that bugs me, I think I think we perform reckless journalism. If
anyone does the brakes on
the car, which, along with the steering wheel are among the few
things that will work if the car is to completely lose electrical
power. This they have they made you lose your powers. I noticed
this, but the brakes and steering have to work manually
as far as I know that's a requirement for all cars sold in
the United States. Now he takes it which again means you could
turn off the electricity and drive the car again you have to
be able to do that. Otherwise you kill somebody and this is
being done on the freeway, which seems questionable. Then he says
he has a theory says it sounds like a hit piece on Fiat
Chrysler. On behalf of the UAW I like they know that the FCA is
currently looking for another auto manufacturer to partner
with that's Fiat Chrysler, whatever, partner with combined
resources and potentially sell off Chrysler and its
subsidiaries RAM, Jeep and dodge. If the UAW can sabotage
that they can keep the jobs in the US a little longer. Ah, I
think this is just one of those, you know, these two guys are
part of a
while they present, they're gonna present a consulting firm,
they're gonna they Oh, they they did this. In they they received
an $80,000 grant to do this. Yeah. So yeah. But more
importantly, if we're all going to accept this, then I demand
that as a citizen of the United States of good moment, nation, I
demand we reopen the investigation on Michael
Hastings. Because we all can be in on this as Oh, it's really
can happen. And then when you say Well, Michael Hastings, the
Breitbart reporter who had important information who died
in one quarter border Rolling Stone, you can't then say, oh,
that's just a conspiracy theory. That's the same guy, by the way
from Twitter. Yes, true. Yeah. You just can't do that. So
some awfully fishy about that story. You can't have it both
ways
for 20 plus years, they've had glow in the dark dogs you can
buy that are part jelly fin anything go boom. Boom.
Johnson Johnson, who was our Secretary of the Department of
Homeland Security, who by the way, and I said it big
exclamation marks. These guys, DHS. They there's a cyber bill.
Let me open this up for you. You're gonna love this. This is
Paul wood bill numbers this has doesn't even have a number yet.
Okay. So it's, it's coming. It's early. This is a bill to
strengthen the ability of the Secretary of Homeland Security.
So that would be Joe Johnson to detect and prevent intrusions
against and to use countermeasures to protect
government agency information systems. This Act may be cited
as the Federal Information Security Management Reform Act
FISMA. Ah, this shitty acronym people, and what it does, it has
the idea is I believe it's $8 billion. They want to
appropriate so that Department of Vietnam No, not the
department, the Secretary of the UN. Yes, the Secretary of
Homeland Security, Jeh Johnson came then implement systems, I
guess, to protect government agency information systems,
which would include OPM, anything like that. Ben Johnson
got called out in Bing was Bloomberg for using his personal
Gmail at the office. And although it isn't really clear,
in this clip you're about to hear, there's one little piece
that is important I want to play. The reason why that is
inherently dangerous is Java in JavaScript in search, if you're
looking at your Gmail, then you know that could do if you're
using browser based systems, it could potentially make your next
connection to the internal email insecure, I think we would all
agree that it's possible. We've seen these types of
possibilities of you using Gmail, but the
cavalier attitude of Mr. Johnson, the man who was about
to receive what will once this is through, I'm sure it's going
to happen will receive a billion dollars to protect the very same
systems that he is using is so cavalier, I think he needs to be
called to account let's be clear
about what the story is talking about. At my desktop at work, I
was via the Internet accessing my personal Gmail account, so I
could see who was sending me stuff on my Gmail on my phone,
you know, see if I gotta need a Tinder dates, personal account,
not to be confused with my DHS email, which I use all the time.
And there are I received a waiver from our chief
information officer to do that, who
should be fired for that waiver?
So until the rules, but totally there are some security risks
that have been raised concerning that. So I'm suspending that
probably should have done it sooner. Yeah. And I want to see
the others on that list, do the same thing. I think that DHS has
to be the model for good cybersecurity and the federal
government other than certainly as, as the Secretary and the
leader of the department, I should be a model for the rest
of the department
now, now. Okay, I got it. You're very serious about your
cybersecurity of the government.gov domain. And of
course, you will be receiving billions of dollars to shore up
that security. But when you when you make a mistake like this,
how do you classify that kind of mistake? That's what I intend to
do?
Did you conduct any DHS? Did you conduct any DHS business on that
on your Gmail?
No, that's not my practice. I mean, occasionally with somebody
mistakenly send me an email on my Gmail and I push it to my DHS
email,
oh, he push it to be which means you're forwarding it creating
another copy on Gmail in the sent box. This guy is he should
not be in charge of any cybersecurity. He does not just
oh, I pushed it. No, you forwarded it, you didn't push
it. So
I'm a frequent user of DHS email. So that's not that's not
an issue.
Well, frequent user of DHS email, that's not really the
standard.
No, I mean, I use my DHS email for government business. I use
my Gmail for private business. I wonder what he's
using his phone.
And so we're you look at some of the hacking that we've seen,
including Sony, really taking a risk by having Gmail on your
desktop?
Probably not an appreciable one, but one that probably should be
eliminated. So I'm eliminating it.
And what was the trigger that caused you to eliminate it?
Well, that story certainly helped.
He said the article exactly the no one within the department,
not his chief information officer. No one but then.
But it mean, frankly, to be perfectly honest, this is
something that I had for a while. And but
when he said, when someone says, To be perfectly honest, I
usually say, oh, as opposed to the bullshit you just been
feeding me for the fast for the past minute and a half. Now,
frankly, is another one that triggers that thought.
But it mean, frankly, to be honest, this is something that I
had for a while. And when I read the story, I said, you know,
oops, this is not a good practice.
Okay. That's, that is there's your cybersecurity of the United
States of America, everybody. Oops.
Now, you have to just assume the Russians have got all our email
going right straight to them. That then includes Hillary
stuff, too. When she was doing her own server. They have all
those.
I had a thought about him and his Gmail, and he seems like a
guy that might have this issue. The Ashley Madison hack, which
we know very little about. Yes, sir. I'm telling you, like male
point in the right hands. You know that politicians? Most
people in general I'm sure if you look with the percentages,
would we have like 40% divorce rate in America? Plus 44
politicians and I'm sure that they're on Ashley Madison
looking for you know, dates.
Yeah, cuz there's not enough women in Washington DC pick up
anybody on Wall Street.
They need fresh, fresh women that haven't been like tossed
around a lot. And I'm thinking he's he's waiting for dates to
come in from his Ashley Madison account. And he's using he's
using the G males for that. And I have a feeling that we know
very little this information has not been published this Ashley
Madison stuff. It hasn't gotten out there who has it and what
will they do with it? I tell you that this is a blackmail
operation. And there's and there's a ton of like it
I like this theory I didn't we didn't discuss it in any detail.
On the last show. We discussed the hack. Or actually I
discussed a hack with maybe was Horowitz I don't remember where
I discussed this the problem of doing too many shows. But
you do two shows I do each other shows that I can't give too many
shows terrible too many shows.
Do I do too much work? The point is is that obviously this is a
black male thing. This is perfect. This is like having the
hookers address but you have the Washington I mean that's what
they do with that poor woman they busted in Washington DC the
one that the madam that's the DC madam. Yeah, they first thing
they do is grab that book and that thing was just destroyed. I
don't know what happened to it. It's gone. I don't know. I went
into police custody. And now it's disappeared. Now now you
got something.
Wow. Yeah, well, you know, keep our eye on and see who's acting
strange. I think Johnson who look
I would say Jake Johnson is acting strange, don't you? He
doesn't You
look a bit like just one of these typical guys. Like, I hate
to say it, like a Bill Cosby. You know, pointing the finger at
everybody else and then doing all kinds of crazy shit in the
background. There are a lot of people I know a lot of people
who
point the finger and then do the opposite,
so I should discontinue it. And how to Josh Rogan find out about
this? i You have to ask Josh Rogan?
Do you guys know like how it leaked or how people found out
or how it came to there?
I wish I knew the source of all leaks in Washington.
Oh yeah, I bet you do.
Pretty good cybersecurity editors Sean Waterman sends me
question, moral hazard. He says why is it that these rules only
seem to apply to the little people not the bosses? Good
question. Well,
as I said, I obtained a waiver from the Chief Information
Officer of the department to
do who is the Chief Information Officer of DHS CIC we'll
find out I'll look him up if I can find him but I find this to
be a bogus
because out this it's a new chief information. I know what
you doubt what
I doubt he got every waiver. It's just like, hey, you know,
it's one of these things. Oh, she's I gotta get off. This is
there on my case, and you call it Well, how am I gonna get out
of it? You have a meeting staff meeting. We're screwed. We got
this problem. The Chief Information Should officers that
the meeting says Just tell him he got a waiver from me? I'll
cover your ass. Oh, thanks, Bill. Thanks, this. I really
appreciate I'll just say that you can say you made a mistake
is yeah, I'll take the ball. Take it. It's no big deal. I get
fired. He's named. Don't worry about it. I got you covered. His
name is Luke. Yeah. Luke,
Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, look, look.
Look, I get this one of those things. You ever see these
situations in these government things where the guy foul, the
guy screws up, or somebody screws up but this guy gets
blamed. Oh, this guy is the worst. He did all these bad
things. Then he gets promoted. And then the media is always
going, Oh, this guy is responsible for this mess.
Probably wasn't. Probably wasn't responsible. That's why he got
promoted. That's
how Uncle Dom became ambassador to South Korea.
It was really Yeah, he's he met I took a bullet.
No, he messed up on. Yeah, he took a bullet on Iran Contra. He
set up the meeting with Felix Rodriguez. And then and then had
that, you know, it was written down Don's a note taker. And
he'd written it down and then that surfaced Oh, haha. And then
there's like stuff down and then but he made it through
senatorial over near the Oversight Committee and they
were very mean. I've received that. I'm gonna look this up
somewhere I have. This will be fun to read somewhere. I have a
note from Aunt Meg to my mom. about him getting through. I
gotta find this. This letter. I'll see if I can. It's just one
of these things. Cleaning up my my crap from the old house and I
ran across this. I was like, Oh, that's interesting. I'll anyway
the Chief Information Officer. The he comes from the Department
of Justice. This Luke. Luke, the lender knows how to play the
game. Yeah, where he was Deputy Assistant Attorney General. So
as a lawyer for a final show, he's
the Chief Information Officer. So he knows everything about
computers and he can give him the Go ahead. That makes sense
prior to
his tenure at DOJ. Mr. McCormack served as the Immigration and
Customs Enforcement CIO, that held several other senior
Homeland Security IT management positions from 99 to 2012. A US
Customs and Border Protection. Its legacy agency, US Customs,
his private sector positions including management roles
within MCI, Ford aerospace and a smaller minority owned firm.
Does that mean Jesus spoke
he's got spoke written all over him. Hey, yeah, come on. Tell me
I'm wrong.
Let's see MBA, MBA, MBA MBA.
That could be a typo. It says MBA master veterinarian of yours
is
an MBA from the Smith School University of Maryland. And
holds Kelly certifications are like ran the school newspaper at
Columbia University and National Defense University. Life
forgotten your life forgot. Finally bit hear from so. So if
you want to
be in a race or get a bump, if you if you want
to protect your internal systems, you know, how does
Johnson, the Secretary of department Homeland Security?
How does he segregate this and make sure everything is all safe
this
and he gave me the waiver. But I do believe that I should set the
standard. And so okay, what's the standard? Just use my
iPhone?
No problem. Just use my iPhone. Just I'll just use my iPhone. No
problem. Yeah. So last question. Here comes again.
How will you read Gmail now?
On my iPhone? Like a lot of other people.
And so that's the
there it is. That's your cybersecurity expert rightly
macro, read it on my phone. They'll read on my other people
that go
that's the practical differences rather than using a government
desktop. Use an iPhone. Yeah,
rather than accessing the internet and accessing my Gmail
on a desktop, I'll just use my phone. Just
I'll just move my phone. Wow.
They need a guy like Joe Ango.
I love Joe but I just get a short short picture of him with
his pink hair and his and his dress. With the pink hair. It's
four and a half inch heels
in terms of terms of a guy who knows,
oh, he knows his stuff. Hell yeah. But I just can't see Joe
NGO gelling very well.
We're working it out with Jeff
Johnson. Like, Hey, Mr. Johnson. I'm Joe NGO. I'm glad Django
would have
these days. It was annoying. Everybody couldn't do a
mistake. The Joe NGO was one of the server guys. The time was
the server guy at pod show. And Joe really knows his stuff and
he lives eats impurity. He is Yeah, he is dude named Ben for
network security. But he's he also is he's a transvestite.
I believe I don't know what he is. It's just beside the point.
No, it's
interesting. And it's not beside the point because you have to
imagine Joe at Django, on Twitter. Just look at the
pictures. Joe with his pink hair and his foreign accent shields,
clickety, clack, clickety clack, Hey, Jay.
But he would do stuff like, there was it all disappeared
when he quit. And he quit for some interesting reasons. But he
quit them. He would do stuff like, do you you want to use the
internal Wi Fi network? You had to he had to mail you the
password, which was a mile long, and consisted mostly of carrots
with all kinds of code that was like you don't even I don't even
know if I could type this. I could cut and paste it but I
couldn't type so you get this in email, which probably was a
security breach because the email could have been forwarded.
But then you had to patch this thing and it was a jillion miles
long and then you get onto
do not say a jillion miles.
I said that I'm sorry, I will give myself minus one point that
was very bad. That was that was a minus two. I can't go any
further than that. But he it was he knew his stuff. I mean, I
argued with him endlessly because we had we were trying to
market something using WordPress. And you know, you go
to the blog I remember all this there was nothing you could do.
I wanted to use a plug in security problem everything was
everything on WordPress apparently was a security issue.
Yeah, yeah. What was he protecting? The other thing the
important
information of pod show our content. I'm like, please, why
would anybody Please steal our content? Put it on WikiLeaks, at
least someone watches this shit.
But know that those guys are out there. Those guys are good, and
they're good and they know what they're doing. Apparently, these
guys
have no clue. I'm sure Megan Smith will bring in the right
people. She doesn't know those people either. And with that,
I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning
to you John C where the C stands for Colonel cash Dvorak.
You're stretching your stretch I am well in the morning to you
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the episode was losers to lions and it oh yes, it was the no
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background. was quite nice. The lone wolf the lone wolf.
Alright, let's get a few things out there to start with. Oops,
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that you always tell that by the size of the spreadsheet, it was
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But let's thank our our patrons and executive producers Patrick
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Yeah. And he wants a little karma for the two of us to the
amazing hosts as he puts it. Oh my god. You've got karma.
Somehow Kiki snuck in there. Yeah, that happened. Eric Hall
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being my first donation of 2015 It came with five five 5.48
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good number in my guilt and appreciation. I believe I'm
finishing off my knighthood please keep me honest. By I'm
short, let me know and I'll make it right. All I ask is that you
to keep on keeping on and shoot a little karma my family's way
and to do the head for my next IRS troubles.
Ah, don't put it out there like man, don't put it out there.
Just manifest that everything will be fine.
You've got karma. And all kinds of things going on today. Sir
Tom sonder came in from Mont Stewart in Tasmania. By the
country that's largely known for the popularization of the TCP IP
protocol for the Windows machines. 500
minute you can't just make a statement like that without some
explanation.
Yeah, the guy there was some guy that was When TCP IP first
appeared, and it was being
wasn't that confident or he'd created Ethernet,
no TCP IP was created by all these guys, including your buddy
over there who just became MCI. They went to Google. Yes, Vince
Vint Cerf, sir. Is a big pusher of that. But there was
this kid and TCPIP might be something one day.
Well, it was funny to watch. I was going through a lot of trade
shows during this transition. And there's always a smooth
transition from what from Novell networks or from
chocolate. There was no networking going on was like a
lot of token ring. Oh, token ring. Yes. There's a bunch of
crazy things going on. Net buoy. There's a hole
man that was the bane of my existence net buoy.
Well, whatever. There was a bunch of the TCP IP was kind of
the leg or no it tag. Yeah, nobody thought much about it. At
Twitter guy again, because it was hard. That guy, it was hard
to implement on especially on Windows machines. And some guy I
wish I could remember his name because I, we brought him over
here and he honored him once and he was the guy who simplified
the TCP IP stack. So it worked effortless, effortlessly on
Windows. I think it was either incorporated in or or developed
parallel to the BSD TCP IP stack. That ring adopted and
that's the one that was Robert Kahn, was
that his name? Now? If you said his name it remember it. That's
why savoured con,
maybe it was I don't think so. But I don't remember his name at
the moment. He is He
is noted here. The book of knowledge is led by Robert
Elliot, Bob calm.
Oh, Tasmania,
let me say Tasmania is not found on the page.
It gives a different guy. Okay, there's a bunch of people that
ended up doing it. And the one that finally one was the one
that developed through the Berkeley vs. Linux, right?
Anyway, so there's a lot it's a convoluted story. I just
mentioned it
casually. I didn't know about the Tasmanian connection that's
that's the media connection. And they probably have good
networking there and everything I'm sure just listening to show
740 rights Sir Tim, and was appalled and slightly ashamed
that you had one just one producer. Yeah, we only had one
producer was bad was a bad day it was 200 all or one producer
so please accept my apology and also my donation on a positive
note and his donation was $500 flat. My wife has finally seen
the light for months she's been asking me why I'm so cynical and
negative. We're not trying to make people cynical and negative
Oh, just cynical. I took a mutual friend
the negative shit is on is on you as your That's your problem.
I took a mutual friend is show her a YouTube clip from Steve
Hughes the heavy metal comedian the heavy metal comedian
familiar with Steve here heard her realize I'm not alone since
she has listened to no agenda and a few of our weekend trips
away by the end of the second show she said you should send
those guys some money and change your title Wow. So there's this
donation gives me a second knighthood I would request a
title change to serve Tim have the map of Tassie
does your wife Sir Tim of Tassie? Does your wife know that
she that you have to send in photos of her to the show? When
you change your title? I'm sure she knows right? Pictures.
Cheerio. He says 30 psi Is it wrong that my seven year old
daughter now calls her frenemies at school douchebags
Yes, another soul saved John
BPS no jingles requests just says keep the show's gonna give
the guy some
karma. Getting his wife turned on. You've got karma so to
speak.
All right. So now we have someone who decided to write a
war in peace as their donation no War and Peace Report. Eric
oops. It's hard to keep keep Yeah, The War and Peace Report
from Hof Eric Hof in Edmonton was donated $370 And I didn't
get to this in time to edit it down. But let's just I'll read
it. I'll read some of it.
I'm happy people are supporting us.
Yes. Well after last week for sure. This donation completes my
knighthood is said to celebrate my birthday on Saturday. So he's
got a birthday check, isn't he? He's got a birthday because blue
and yellow. Sometimes we'll do. We'll do is birthday Saturday,
Sunday, Saturday, July 25. Lately, I've had a device on my
shoulder sort of like the one the ISIS agents have except
telling me to kill it to kill it. Instead of telling me to
kill it. Sorry. I'm reading this called. Instead of telling me to
kill it. It's telling me to donate. donate, donate. donate,
donate, donate little thing little man on its shoulder. I'm
very excited to finally be knighted. I've been listening to
no agenda for a very long time. Well, before to Episode 200 I
started listening to random old preachers 100 episodes are fun
and ran into a few things I forgot about, such as the
embroidered no agenda Hema underwear. Many of our schemes,
yet another money making idea that went nowhere. The Hema
underwear and the nattering nabobs of negativism is jarring
now to hear John saying things like the fact of the matter. And
I don't say that very rarely say fact of the matter I may have in
the past. Oh, I see. You're hearing the old shows. And I
even caught Adam saying the stock market glitched in both in
episode one Oh, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this can't be true. This cannot be
true.
Go back to 104 and check it out. Okay, you have to admit that
after all the ranting, we do and we do hearing Adam say
something. glitched is now pretty funny. We have corrected
most of these errors and blunders and we've made people I
think the coolest thing is that we I could I know what happened
to me? We've made people so aware of these phrases and these
usages like no Yeah, yeah. No. Yeah. That you when you watch
TV, you just catch them
all the time all. And Erica Eric is on the birthday list. He was
on the list. But
anyways, he says, I like show 207 and 200.7 and I love the
interviews episode two. I don't know that Apple say I don't know
that Apple saved AOL from going bankrupt until that interview or
I didn't know. Yes, I actually didn't know either. Skelly
always has some stuff to tell us. Okay, where am I? Oh,
squirrel news. You're good mon nation audio publication. You
know what comes through from the Stargate fish. Then what comes
through the climate gate climate and the phone should be made out
of Bakelite. Adam says this is exactly like Atlas Shrugged John
groans chemtrails club 33 and Raven Monsanto trains good
plains bad fluoride, no agenda swine flu minute of Chinese and
on and on. Can you read the rest because I can't because I can't
get that to stand.
Excuse me. The war between the reptilians and tall blond aliens
Adam quote No, really. This was all in Atlas Shrugged. John
quote, this is going to cost us donations. cashless society
coming soon. First, Lance first announced in 2009, you're
stepping on my punch line. This was even before show 100
Rubenesque women speaking Dutch, because even in Dutch words
matter, divorce tax law, and of course, mutton in Mead actually
reads this on the air. I'm looking forward to hearing the
voice he'll use. I'm gonna use it. Pretty, pretty nice. Nice
voice. So he will be knighted sir. We'll code for coffee. And
he has also added to the birthday list July 25. Now he
mentioned one of our many schemes, the the HEMA underwear.
Yeah. Yeah, just I, you know, I'm from the future. But I
didn't expect the future to come this quickly. I was saying,
though, that we're going to we need an Uber for medicine. Well,
no sooner had I said it, and everyone sends me like a day
later without it. Yeah. What is the name of this app? I don't
think has a name, but that it's an Uber like service. It's
exactly it's exactly what I said they should do. And here it is.
We're going to have this for everything. This is the model
Ford an Uber for absolutely everything. You want to have
someone clean your house, there's going to be an Uber app
for that. One of our producers is on the inside. And he said,
Oh, you have no idea. Uber is so doing this. They just want to be
the Uber for everything connecting service at people
that perform a service middlemen, middlemen, yeah. And
then taking the money in the big in the middle and they will be
very successful with this. Their infrastructure is beyond
compare. And of course, I got a whole bunch of military people
on the board and all kinds of insiders. So they're the chosen
ones.
Yeah, well, I'm glad me too. All right. Onward. URL. Gene sheriff
of Texas. Gene net Tullia $333 and cents. Good to have him
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This is one of these card holders that he makes them out
of? Carbon fiber titanium. Am I like it a lot? It's done. Did he
send you one? No, I'm pretty sure he did. I don't remember.
Well, it's very it's a very nice product. I use it all the time
for my cards.
I don't remember seeing one
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Sheriff, Sheriff gene, Gene. And finally, last but not least,
Associate Executive Producer roles in Oscar shank $20 in one
$20 in $1 in Castro comm column which is in Holland, ITM pod
father and John C. D. Thanks for what you do. I'm still broke but
made a move last week to port to Gaul. And after two years
counting seeds in Holland on my way I crashed my car but got a
rental to continue I almost lost my eight surfboards on the roof.
No party times go into port surfer as their their surfers
there I didn't Holland. I didn't
move into Portugal. Some waves there are some waves. They I
think they either sold or they have put up for sale that ghost
airport in Portugal. The one that no one lands at Yeah, I
read that that was in Spain. Oh, maybe it was I'm sorry. I
thought I think that goes to airport was in Spain. Nice man.
I could be
wrong Portuguese did I think compared to the Spain's that two
countries decided to just rip off the EU as best they could
build out and in fact, this Spain built up some subway
systems. I mean, there's a subway system and in, in, like
in the Basque Country, and what's the name of that was a
couple towns up there. Fantastic. I mean, it's very
modern, very cool. They got some nice highways they put down in
Spain, but but they also put up big bank bills and they
squandered a lot of their money, including that airport. The
Portuguese seem to just because like you said, when you were
there was all dirt roads. And now it's all anyways third world
country. They've really modernized the country. They
haven't hurt themselves necessarily, even though they're
broke. I told you about the
time that I went to Portugal and I was a superstar
would have been 20 years ago,
longer, almost 30 years ago. Wow. When they had no roads?
Well, you're 19. I was 19 or 20. And there was a consortium, the
satellite television was just really taking off. And they had
Europa TV, which is all the public broadcasters of Europe.
And you know, some multiple contributed news. And then what
we did is an hour of music videos every single day. And of
course, this is pre email. So people would we would solicit
postcards and letters, and I had probably 25 At any given moment.
25 full mail sacks bins, but mail sides like Canvas, burlap
bags, it was mail. Yeah. And that the time Portugal was a
complete third world country that everything was a mess. And
what they were doing is they were taking the integral, the
Europa TV signal and rebroadcasting it on the
terrestrial RTP. Two, they only had two stations. And they
certainly had no music videos. So all of a sudden, there I am
playing music videos, and I'm reading you know, there's a six
foot four, blonde guy blue eyes kind of reading their mail. So
we knew that there was a good market for us. So we decided to
go, you know, go to around the country. And it was of course in
conjunction with tap the tourists Association Portugal's
so it's all in bid. Someone was getting paid for it, not me. And
we land and we at the time we had CarNet you remember the
CarNet? If you wanted to improve know, if you had camera gear and
you're going into a country, you had all this documentation,
though, right?
Because the contract had to bring we went to Europe in the
early days, the early days for 23 years ago, you had to bring
all this documentation that you own the camera.
That's right. So then you had to clear it because
Because apparently you could buy the cameras cheap. This is all
part of fair trade. That you it's like, Where'd you get that
camera? You bought it over here because it was cheaper. And you
couldn't get gouged the United States The United States was all
about gouging especially in the 70s
so we're doing the CarNet or Carnegie think it's from
Carnegie and the here this noise and I can't place it it's like
something was dragging on the baggage carousel. I couldn't
quite play but everyone heard it was like this, like some swarm
of birds or something. And then we'd go through customs, the
sliding doors, which are milky glass open up and there's 5000
kids waiting for me. It was insane. Did you sign autographs?
They were hanging on we had a van like a Renault espouse van
and they were hanging on the van as we're driving. They were they
were
inefficiency. grab you and strip your clothes off and then beat
the crap out. So
here's the kicker. I would say jokingly, you know, I'm pretty
much the same guy I was when I was 19 instead of you know, send
some pictures, although I frequently solicited naked
pictures and received them. But I would say hey, you know, give
me a Lamborghini for some reason I thought get a Lamborghini was
a cool car. And I have I'll take a picture. I'll put it in the
show notes. I have front page articles from the copy tile
newspaper with girls giving the Lamborghinis what Yeah, they
were there they had the Lamborghinis gift say here's the
keys to the beginning Wow Yeah. Did you take any of our Of
course not. Oh, no, no no. I didn't even have sex with any of
them was how stupid I was.
Moron felon get any money for this gig fell
in love early no money for the gig. No Lamborghini, no, no bang
and I didn't have an agent. That's the problem. Yeah, if
only I'd known you then Devorah boy in my life
would have been able to help my child to take the Lamborghini
that had been my fee.
Alright, we're done with with our that's I want to remind
people we do have a show coming up on Sunday. We have a lot of
good stuff that's going to be produced for that and then
divorce.org/na So that's it. This was a good good opening
salvo rest of this not as good but this was at least helped.
And then a quick PR mentioned from Sir Ramsey Kane in the
morning. The new no agenda CD is out. You can find that no agenda
cd.com The new disc is called Tech horny. And it's
specifically geared towards dudes named Ben. Bill. It's not
the dude's name. Ben I'm going to ship 400 CDs to my hotel in
Las Vegas and hand them out a DEF CON good man.
So yes, that's great. This
is the this is the guy who knows what he's doing. The next few
days we'll also have a more traditional NAC development on
the ship some of those as well and hand them out on the Strip.
You should put a like Simon hooker with a phone Yes, I'm
one of those girls.
Yeah, I'll take that CD. I figured that
I would do yeah put some hottie on there with a number
was a phone number double Oh 23457 or nine that's my
net if you put in the browser go to the no agenda show.
I figured the NA meetup attendees can put there no
agenda shirts on and join me on the Las Vegas Strip to hand out
CDs to pastor buys Planned Parenthood.
I went photos I well. Yes,
newsletter Planned Parenthood style. I
like them to do this. I want to I want pictures in the
newsletter it should be
should be the no agenda, face to face marketing team. And when
someone walks by you stick out your hand and go Hi, in the
morning, in the morning, stick your hand out and then then real
women so Ramsey can't be the way to do it. Who ends with his hail
apple. Thank you very much, sir Ramsey, you are a true gentleman
amongst the service vorak.org/and. Of course, while
you're out there, you might as well do the very important work
of propagating the formula.
Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth
okay, I Adam curry. And as of today, officially, officially
announcing my full support, my endorsements, my coveted
endorsement, and you know that my endorsement is coveted. I
didn't know that it is my coveted endorsement for Donald
Trump, for a
Republican candidate for the presidency of the United States
of America.
Well, I will say that I would like to see Donald Trump but
continue his quest because I have a lot of clips. So do I.
And I want to make sure that he gets his fair share of because I
don't think they're giving him enough attention. i He's got
good things. He's got good ideas. Now the irony of Donald
Trump that I think a lot I can just say
one thing, you just you just kind of step over my
announcement like it's nothing this is a big deal. I have the
phrase as far as I know, I am the first media personality to
endorse Donald Trump for president. I will go as far I
will say that I want this guy to be president so bad. I will
register as a Republican and if they said do I have to can I
vote for him just as an independent I'm registered and
depends on
the way you're stateside if you're if you're an independent,
the states are adult do things differently. For example, in
California, when I go to vote in a primary as an independent, I
am given the choice of taking the independent ballot which has
got nobody on it or the Democrat ballot. The Republican Party in
California has refused to let the independence vote on their
ticket. So you had to find out what what the rules are in your
state. Okay. Generally speaking up against are more fearful that
you independents are troublemakers I'm
I am I am voting for Donald Trump. I think this guy is
exactly what we need. He is saying all the right he is in
fact, I know you have. I know you've clips. I just wanted to
play one clip to start off with. And I'll get to mine after that,
since I announced the topic. He is all in all in John, on your
theory for the Middle East. So this is why he has to he will be
he will receive so much support, because this is exactly what the
military industrial complex the Big Oil complex with all these
guys want is Donald Trump's message. I want to
ask you about ISIS. You said nobody would be tougher on ISIS
than Donald Trump's visit. Nobody specifically what would
be your strategy,
the situation with ISIS has to be dealt firmly and strongly
when you have people being beheaded. I would love that to
be over there. That's not our fight. That's other people's
fights. It's a revolutions. That's whatever you want to call
it, the religious wars, I would do things that would be so
tough, that I don't even know if they'd be around to come to the
table sort of things, though. I would take away that wealth, I
would take away the oil you should be doing now is taking
away the oil. Does that mean bomb the hell? And I'll tell you
what I hate about this about this question. If I win, if I
win, I didn't want to answer this question. And I thought
maybe I could go without answer. Because if you look at the Great
General George Patton, or General MacArthur was a big fan
of or any of these greats. They didn't talk about what they did.
And I said, I hate it. In fact, if you remember when I said I
have a plan, but I don't want to talk about it. Problem is
everyone said, Oh, he really doesn't have a plan. Okay, so I
had to do it. But I hate talking about it. Because if I when they
know I'm gonna do it fight when I would attack those oil sites
that are controlled and owned by OSA owned. They're controlled by
ISIS. They're taking tremendous money. They are renovating a
hotel in Iraq. Can you
believe it? Would you be destroying the wealth of Iraq?
No, no,
let me give there is no Iraq, there is no wreck their
leaders are correct differ which is I think that's he's very
smart. What he's saying about that is there are
no Iraqis, they've broken up into so many different factions,
like bombing Iraqi oil fields, which are now in the control of
ISIS. But bombing Iraqi oil is going to anger huge numbers of
people.
I would the hell out of those oil fields. I wouldn't send many
ships because you won't need them. By the time I got
finished. I bombed the hell out of the oil fields. I didn't get
Exxon didn't get these great oil companies to go in. They would
rebuild them so fast. Your head will spin us true. Excuse me.
You have a CFS they put up rigs these guys are unbelievable. So
I go Exxon Mobil I go the top five oil companies, they'd be in
there, they'd be finished so fast. And you need US troops to
protect the oil company. Yes, you put a ring around them. You
put a ring, you just take a ring of fire away. This is what
should be done. But no politician is going to do that.
bomb
them, bomb them and bomb them again.
Ladies and gentlemen. It is time to love this guy.
Well, they're out to get him.
Yeah, he's because he's talking sense and people are enjoying
it. They are enjoying it.
They're enjoying it a lot. And the thing that the thing that
was the big you know, every time he says something that they're
all these pundits, oh, well, that's it. He's done. We've seen
peak Trump. numbers go up.
That's a good and write that down peak Trump peak Trump,
right? Yeah, yeah. Every single time the he says something. Oh,
well, the Evangelicals will hate him now. No, yeah. Because
he's the Yeah, he in fact, one of the pollsters came on says he
can't win because he's not an evangelical because apparently
if you're a Republican you have to be and you can run because he
because he's worked all the veterans because he condemned
McCain, who we've always believed is a douchebag. He's a
war monger.
You know what's funny about the McCain things, Donald Trump said
he's not a war hero. He got captured. He was captured right?
Yeah, I mean, everyone's Oh, what an ale Boy, this guy and
even here. In fact, most of this is left. Left media left his
media Democrat Democrats. They're all say, Oh, well, what
a horrible thing to say yet. When Chris Rock says it, it's
funny. McCain has
got that old story. Smartphones have been telling the same story
before the fucking years.
He's a war hero. Be a war hero. Feel war hero that got captured.
A lot of guys in jail. They got cancer.
Exactly. And then they're all gone. Donald Trump says what an
eight hole What a douche bag. Come on people. You're full of
it.
So let's listen to CNN International. on Trump,
CNN International Jozy? Yeah,
but it's gonna do everybody's collective consciousness. And in
a way, I actually see this as a positive thing because I think
this is really the beginning of the end of Donald Trump saw this
morning on CNN, Chris Cuomo did something remarkable. He asked
about substantive policy issues on the Veterans Administration
and reform that we need. Their Donald Trump spokesman was
unable to answer any of those questions because they don't
have answers on anything that substantive. He's not a
candidate. He's more of a professional wrestler trying to
evoke and elicit a reaction from the crowd provoke a reaction
from the ground and that's what he's doing so far.
Did you notice that Huffington Post puts all Donald Trump news
on the entertainment section of the website? Very
disappointed.
That's objective coverage? Of course,
of course, the and I looked at his at his financials, 92 pages
of his holdings. He's building a hotel in Baku, Azerbaijan. Okay.
We know who's going to be winning if he's president. We
will mark up
the folks on the Kings Road and Canary Wharf has as much
exposure to Donald Trump. I hope I was hoping they'd be luckier
than we were.
No, well, let me tell you he is known also because the US
version of The Apprentice aired here in the UK, I was told and
of course, he's known because he makes himself known. He's active
on Twitter. He says controversial things. But you
tweeted something. Doug, you said, understand how Trump can
hurt the GOP field. But why not a media that pride but why not a
media that privately laughs at Trump yet covers him ad nauseam.
But you have to cover the candidate who's leading the
polls, don't you? I mean, Trump's at 18% in the latest Fox
News poll.
Oh, absolutely. It certainly warrants coverage. What I found
troubling is, when you're in newsrooms, you'll talk to people
who you know, don't take it seriously. And then cover it,
then ask the question, then ask the next question. And what
we've seen and be, you know, appearing with you right now,
I'm obviously guilty of it, too. What we've seen is just an
exhaustive coverage of this. It's all Trump all the time.
Yeah. So if you're Marco Rubio, and you gave a education speech
in Chicago a couple of weeks ago, that didn't get in any as
tension as it should have, if you're Rick Perry, and you spoke
on race, right, as the Confederate flag issue was
really heated up in South Carolina, that didn't get the
attention to deserve and so what we're losing is the real
substantive issues that voters need to learn about, because
we're hearing nothing but bluster and insults from one one
part of a sideshow,
nah, here and now I'll do a clip. This is all from his
Anderson Cooper interviewed him. The and it was found to be a
fantastic interview. This is the Trump is you just got to
appreciate this guy from a no agenda standpoint, when he says
this
general voter, I don't know, you keep
bringing up negative you only want to talk about negative, why
don't you bring up the positive? I did. Start off you start off
with the interview I started off with. You started off the
interview with a poll that I didn't even know I just started
off with a Washington Post poll intentionally. You would accuse
me that all I know, as every poll, I'm leaving, and you give
me these two polls where it's different states. They're not
even a national check the record I started where you are way out.
And I think it's very interesting. It took me a poll,
I never even saw you today. It's really it's on three different
states. And you're hitting me with this. And I think it's a
very frankly, I think it's a very fair question. I think it's
an extremely, you started off the interview with that. You
don't say, I lead in the fox poll. I'm leading in the ABC,
Washington Post, across the board, but I am leading across
the board. And then you hit me with this poll that I didn't
even see before where, oh, gee, it's not even that kind of a
poll. All I know is I have a very big group of support. And I
think one of the reasons is that's your way, the people
don't trust you. And the people don't trust the media. And I
understand.
I love our hands and goes right. The people don't trust you said,
right. Right. You know, I've
always been covered fairly accurately because it was
usually a financial press.
I believe Cooper said right was even listening. The people don't
trust you, Anderson Cooper. I love that. Come on. This guy is
great. This guy's you know, this guy hits your Putin, Snowden
meme even
as an Eric, here comes, you know, the previous guy mentioned
Rubio, so that's Mr. Rubio is all in on Trump hating. And
Rubio just seems like such a little weenie because when he
does this, it's like Cruz, at least, you know, Cruz seems to
have a clue. Yeah, he's smiles and he's out. He says I don't
die. I'm not saying nothing. Right. But no, Rubio has been
sending as a hitman. That's a double
negative.
But that would be Cruz.
Does he say I'm not saying nothing?
I'm not saying nothing. No, I didn't realize so this is Rubio
one this is because his Rubio one okay. This is him. I think
he's seated down. He just doesn't seem presidential in any
way. And he just and this play it.
Joining us now Senator Marco Rubio, Republican from Florida.
2016 that is
this is this is a two box he's not sitting down in this one.
Okay. Thanks for clarifying. It's important for the audio
that you know it's a two box. It's a twofer. Joining us
now Senator Marco Rubio, Republican from Florida, 2016
nominee. Thank you so much for joining us. Senator. I know
you've heard these comments from Donald Trump. Governor Perry
says these comments disqualify Trump to be commander in chief.
Do you agree?
I do agree. This is not just an insult to John McCain, who
clearly is a war hero and a great man. But it's an insult to
all POWs to all men and women who have served us in uniform
that
they'll do anything do they're so afraid of this is? Of course
not. No. But they'll do anything. They're so afraid of
this guy. I love him.
I've been captured in battle. And this somehow makes the
assumption or he saying that somehow of your captured in
battle, you're less worthy of honors than someone who isn't.
It's not just absurd. It's offensive. It's ridiculous.
Yeah. And I do think he has a disqualifiers command
disqualifying? Is it disqualifying? Is it in the
Constitution, guys, a big constitutionalist
constitutionalist. Now, this is disqualifying.
And when Chris Rock says that it's okay. I'm hilarious. But
when Donald Trump says it's disqualifying to be president,
please now here's the other one. This is the one that got me the
most. This is Rubio, this is number two. And he they bring
Hillary in. Now some
Democrats, including Hillary Clinton have criticized you and
your fellow Republican candidates for not speaking out
more forcefully and more quickly after Trump's comments about
undocumented immigrants. They wonder why this Firestorm about
McCain and not a firestorm about Mexicans? Well, there was
I spoke out against what Donald Trump said.
Okay, so that was that's kind of cut it short, because what all I
wanted to kind of point I wanted to make is, why doesn't he say,
What business is it of Hillary's? Why are we responding
to what Hillary says he should have? When did Hillary define
the debate? What's Hillary got to do with that
is a disqualifying statement right there. You can't run on
the Republican ticket if you're if you're allowing your entire
messaging to be hijacked by a Democrat, don't ya? No way.
That No, he's right into it. Now. Now, the thing I noticed
that I had a bunch of clips of Aruba. He's just a weenie. He's
horrible. I had a lot of respect for him when he ran a tea party
guy now I lost all respect for him. All right. I think he's a
complete loser. He's got you shouldn't even be running. He's
just acts like a kid. When they when he goes on camera. They
have the two shot they have the two box and he's over there
sitting there with a really forced smile. Some consultant
told him to smile more because the consultant if you go work
with any media consultants, they always tell you to do this,
which Trump doesn't use, by the way. No, he uses no consultants.
And that's why people like him. So the consultants, any media
consultant working with any and they always hire him at every
operation. The thing is, you're not smiling and that you don't
look like you want to be here, which in my case, it was always
Yeah, I don't Well, you should make fake it and smile. Boy,
she's smiling. So
before you continue, which is exactly why I think people one
of the reasons why people like the no agenda show is we just
are not politically correct. And these guys are managed their
style, their craft, and they're incredibly politically correct,
because they believe for some reason the American people are
well, of course, they are brainwashed into being this way,
but underneath it, underneath all of that we want to fucking
win. We want to win the world. And Donald Trump is the man who
can take us there.
Anyway, is never going to end this is gonna go on for months.
Ladies, correct? No. Five, take him out. They'll have the
meeting like they had with Ross Perot show a few pictures is you
know, guys in dark suits and sunglasses and in a parking lot
under the ground.
I don't think he's afraid of it. I don't think he gives a crap.
We'll see.
Ross Perot wasn't either. All right. So that now here's the
another short short clip of Rubio because I just wanted to
point something out which bought bugs me, Ruby, because this is a
part of something you brought up after the show. Yeah, after the
show, which was the use of and you see this on all these little
Tech High Tech warning podcasts. And I said happens at the dinner
table in everybody's house when if you have kids, especially if
they're around 12 years old, where you want to get into
conferences, I think Well, I think Apple's gonna do this. I
think
I think I think I think Apple should have bought that bought
Oculus Rift before Facebook and I think I think the I am film
girl I think
Sorry, I have to say now you're bringing skirt this girl is
remarks name me that people I'm sorry. But I think i think i
think i think i think i think i think i think is crap. And here
is Rubio. He is one of these people and I'll tell you how I'm
gonna He's gonna here's his preface. I'm with it. I'm gonna
tell you how he should have said it. If he's had any
qualifications to be president in terms of his his leadership
abilities,
sanctions, is it not possible that this is simply the best
deal any American president could have gotten?
No, I don't think that's true. I think that the sanctions were
actually forcing Iran to the table. I think we should have
asked for a lot more of this sanction. This to violates
promises the President made to the American people on multiple
fronts. It is not an anytime anywhere inspection system. It
is an inspection process that will invite and require
arbitration.
We need to come up with a no agenda response when people are
doing this. I think thing.
Now the thing about this, if you play that, again, it just ended
after the second time he says I think
of sanctions, is it not possible that this is simply the best
deal any American president could have gotten?
No, I don't think that's true. I think that the sanctions were
actually forcing Iran to the table. I think we should have
asked for a lot more of the sanction. This guy's
good. If he had to remove the two, I thinks it would have been
fine. Yeah. No, there's no good we could have done this in that.
And
I think I've paid it today, I paid attention to our usage. And
we sometimes use this and we're burdened just as guilty, but
everybody uses Well, I don't know if you are an expert on
some things. For instance, I believe I am an expert on
aviation. So when I say I think this is what happened, then that
is reasonably credible. But what we typically do on the show and
I've paid attention to it is will say Obama should have done
this. Or you know, MUFON guy should have thought considered
this. Boy, you say, I think who gives a shit? I don't care what
you think you are no, no expert on in the material. And this has
to stop in general in certainly, tech horny podcasts, because
it's it's annoying. It's boring. It's boring. We don't care what
you think. You have no standing. Your reporter reporters report
you don't think?
Well, technically, you're right.
Here is the future president. Speaking to snow, by
the way, can I interrupt you right there? Of course. You
know, my theories about the economic cycles and the way
things work out. I do. The guy who makes the biggest splash and
doesn't get anywhere in this cycle, which would be 2016 Is
the guy who becomes president in 2020. That's fine. So what
happened to Reagan? The Franklin Roosevelt days what happened to
have I can name more?
And Reagan I remember that when Reagan was running? And I was in
the Netherlands, there's 76.
Yeah. Okay.
The world was full of scoring PA, an actor, an actor, an
actor, and now he is heralded as the the godfather of the modern
Republican Party. Yeah. So hilarious. Now, but but he is
all in almost all in on Putin and and your thoughts on that?
He's much more aligned with you than you think, John, but you
can't say I think
our Attorney General Holder just the other day said perhaps some
sort of plea deal could be in the works. He also said that
Snowden spurred a necessary debate. What would you do best?
I think he's a total traitor. And I would deal with him
harshly. And if I were president Putin would get over I would get
along with Putin. I've dealt with Russia. Do you think? I
think I'd get along with him fine. I think he'd be absolutely
fine. He would never keep somebody like Snowden in Russia.
He hates Obama. He doesn't respect Obama. Obama doesn't
like him either. But he has no respect for Obama has a hatred
for Obama. And Snowden is living the life. Look, if that if I'm
President Putin says, Hey, boom, you're gone. I guarantee you
that,
you know, I believed this anything like my way of
thinking, but it's about Snowden.
It's about Snowden, and that he would get along very far as it
is, right. But I like that the our future president, whether
it's 2016 or 2020, will get along just fine with Putin, and
I believe it. I believe it. Now here's the thing. This this part
of this interview, I think hones in on what a Pete a lot of
people really like about the way he is running his campaigns. I'm
doing
this for the good of the country, somebody has to do it.
Politicians are never going to turn this country around our
country's a mess. The politicians are going to destroy
this country. They're weak and they're ineffective.
I love that. He uses this a lot weak. They're weak. Every
opponent, what do you think of him? He's weak, just weak
or a loser?
It's a it's a it's a Fanta and it's also it's all lines he's
used in the apprentice, you're weak. You're just weak. And when
you say to someone, you're weak, but how do you come? What is the
comeback? I'm strong. No, no, you're weak. It's very powerful,
and they're controlled by the lobbyists and the special
interests will Like, I have no idea you took
the lobbyists and special interests though you and I
talked last time, you've given a lot of money to politicians over
the years you've given to Democrats and Republicans,
aren't you part of the problem? I would?
Absolutely, absolutely. I was on the other side, they will do
whatever I want up until you decide to run. So
critical to say, Oh, this is a problem. But I'm going to make
the most of this role
playing the game. I was a businessman, I made a fortune, I
made a lot of money i i posted
over $10 billion. In order to make money. It's okay to play
the game before it's
called your life. I mean, I'm a businessman, and I contribute to
people and they treat me nicely and everything else. So
how do you change that? How do you change that culture? I
understand the practice. Look, I just read an article with Bush's
meeting with all these lobbyists in Washington has a meeting with
all these lobbyists, every one of those lobbyists that gives
money, they expect something for it. And that's a bad thing.
Absolutely. I've had lobbyists, and I've had some very good
ones, they could do anything, they can take a politician and
have them jump off this ledge.
This guy is great. Can you actually change that culture of
corruption?
Well, you can in the sense that the tough person can't be
bought. I'm worth far too much money, I don't need anybody's
money. I'm not running with anybody's money. I'm spending my
own money. But the lobbyists have, or they totally control
these politicians. Just take a look in one of the articles very
recently, I see a bush with the lobbyists. And he's sitting
there with all of these people that told him to work regenerate
the machine. So he telling them what to do, like a little
puppet. And the same with Hillary and the same with
everybody else. Now, when I'm in business, I'm part of that game.
When I'm in this. I now know, when somebody's coming back
and forth, though. I'm gonna be a guy. Yes,
Anderson is possible. Dick,
I am able to do that. Critical. Not at all. Look, I'm going to
do it. I've made a lot of money.
A lot hurt. And so I've heard
and I don't need money or one. I don't need $5,000 He had 10,000
These guys are desperate for money. I don't need it. I'm
gonna do what's right for the country. You
know, I am telling you, John, as a disc jockey. I was. It was my
job to pick songs that would be hits that people would like at
the right time, the right moment where the right of sandwiching
of other things. We do this on this show. We pick stories, we
pick clips. This is the guy that America wants. It's the problem,
right he has right now. Is he it's just politically incorrect
to say you can say, well, I like what he's saying. But I don't
want that clown in the White House. Well, you some valid
points, but he's a side show. Well, this would be perfect
for 2020 because he won't get in. He's doesn't got a prayer.
He won't get nominated. He'll make a big splash make a big
scene. He's not spending a lot of money. I don't see any No,
no, he's not. So he doesn't have to write and I don't think he's
spending anything. So it's not like it's the travel now. And
here's here's another important reason why I would like him to
be president, and why I am endorsing him early. Because I
see a role for us in this John. This is this is the kind of guy
who's gonna say, yeah, there's no agenda, guys, bring them in.
And first of all, we'd be in. I know we can get a meeting with a
guy who like us. And then we can be like, yeah, we can be I can
be CTO of the country. Or maybe we get an ambassadorship.
I bet Ambassador ship to France.
There you go. Oh, Mike, done, Consider it done. It's kind of
well, that Skype connection might suck for the show from
France,
or maybe not from the embassy.
But he he really hits all the points at some point. And you're
right, of course, I'm going to say I'm not going to argue your
cycle theory because that's how the cycle theory how can you
argue? I mean, come on, are you I can give you I'm not gonna
argue it. I like it. Maybe it's maybe it's 2020 but there's
going to be some meme some way that someone says something that
makes it politically correct to actually endorse Donald Trump
something that is what he needs to happen here. You're gonna
happen here was fine. This let me ramble I'm endorsing someone
for President where's your we're gonna endorse the Diane Keaton
Warren. What's her name?
I'm endorsing Diane Keaton ran for president I'm on
drugs. Here is the final bit from this interview and people
will like this
one thing about me I wouldn't be on planes doing all these
fundraisers if you're gonna fundraise, maybe doing someplace
else. I mean, the other night in New York, New York was shut down
because Obama is here to go to a Broadway play. He's here to you
know, when you're in the White House for a limited period of
time, I'd be there all the time working. Working the difference.
I wouldn't even have time to comb my hair the way come and I
probably just have to come
back. See self deprecating humor. Yeah, very nice. I'm
telling you. I endorsed Donald Trump for president and I would
love Fincher.
Let's play a couple last. I think I have one last one.
That's Pretty much the other. This is the peculiar. This is
another slam CNN. I mean, I'm surprised to hear Anderson
probably got a lot of flack for this interview because it may
because Trump took it over. He took over he owned it
and Trump does something very, very cool. When when a reporter
tries to interrupt him, he says, Excuse me, and people shut up.
It's really interesting to watch.
He does it in a very abrupt way that works. Yeah. It's, it's a
technique he learned somewhere in meetings, probably in
business meetings. But he, yeah, he does it. Anybody does? I've
heard see him do this couple of times. He does, excuse me. And
then he starts to talk as though if you're saying anything, He is
not listening. He is going on and you have to stop. Yeah. And
if you're an interviewer, that's what you you're trained to do,
anyway. Yeah. The only people that can really stop would be
people yelling back at him. And they're not interviewing him.
Then they're just debating him. And I think it would maybe be
different with the I don't know, I'm thinking of Perry's parents,
too. I think I see the thing he's already got in my brain and
Perry needs to take an IQ test. He's got these memes. He's
dropped in there like bombs. I mean, Perry hasn't got a prayer.
Now after the ancient thing. None
of them have a prayer this guy is. I know, the American people.
We like bombing people. We like being the big bully. We pretend
we don't
yet Jeb Bush is going to win it. Okay, let's play this game,
because they're just going to be relentless. They're going to
there's meetings going on, you can be sure of this. Anyone
listening to this? At anytime you're listening? There are a
meetings right now, in New York, Washington and elsewhere. What
are we going to do about this guy?
Make him president? Why not just let him when
they're getting paid not to make him president. That's what these
meetings are about. These are not meetings and people that
I use are these are lobbyists? And I would think not I think
but I would think that the lobbyists will take money from
other people look to the smart money is going to say, You know
what? Let's go with this guy. Let's run with him. He's on our
side. You're
nuts. All right. Let's play peculiar CNN slam on Trump.
Did you see this week he filed his financial information with
the government. This is a precursor to him trying to get
into the GOP debates beginning next month, also, obviously a
precursor to really running for president and the financial
information that he released in a press release. We haven't
actually seen the filing yet. But the press release said he
was paid $213 million to host the apprentice in the 14 seasons
that he was with the show. Does that sound crazy to you? Is that
possible? Can someone get paid $230 million to host a reality
TV show?
It seems unlikely doesn't if Ryan I don't know. I'm not sure
Jerry Seinfeld was getting that much money in the heyday. So
yeah, sideshow. That's the
goal crap. Hold on a second. This is the kind of thing we get
from these reporters. They can't do the math. And this is the
media show on see and this is a media. Yeah, it's the media
show. For that, that means Trump is getting on a primetime show
that is enough of a hit that stays on the air. They would not
keep it on the air for wasn't and they're paying him what you
would pay a guy like this. And this is actually low. This is
40. This, what's his
writing? What's his writing point? Is it 14 million viewers
is that
getting $14 million for this season? $14 million for a season
is nothing but the people that work on the Today Show get $14
million. Exactly. Seinfeld in his I'm not sure Seinfeld in his
heyday was Seinfeld who was doing 26 shows or more a year
and repeating $1 million is show syndication that now. On the
network. Yeah, but he also made money on the syndication making
millions on syndication because you get he's getting something
like 50% of syndication fees. So he was making 26 million right
off the top, which is almost twice as much as Trump so these
guys are just lying.
Yeah, well of course they're lying because they are
they don't know what they're talking about this why are they
on the air? Well, there's that do the math do some calculate
your your now now you're just pissed that you know they're
making all this money talking shit. Now one other one other
reason why I am endorsing Trump Melania Trump Oh yeah. Oh, yeah.
Wow, that's that could be our first lady please. Oh, man
anyway. Oh, one last when I when I'm invited. I'm gonna say oh,
don't invite that guy. He was against you. That would be huge
on
I wasn't against them I predicted for design I'm not
worried about others.
You will be when I'm banging in the in the Lincoln now there's
so hard up
there so hard up they first they got a Rupert Murdoch clip which
Trump has been having a feud with for a while so they
repeated Rupert to him. Murdoch clip and then they read a
Charlie Sheen tweet about Trump as though this is important and
which clip is this is Charlie Sheen?
I'm sorry, I had I don't see. Oh, yes. Sorry. Got it. And not
only
has Trump lost Murdoch, listen to this. Oh, Trump, you're
ashamed pile of idiocy. That was a tweet from Charlie Sheen.
When the bastion of truth and all things politic. Yeah,
that's gotten me about this is they didn't read his tweet. They
read the last line of it. So I wrote it down. Oh, good. Good
work. It was actually really funny. Good work. Ready? Yeah.
Trump, you're as sad and silly to monkey Willis, or what you
work at is he's a very small person. I had to look it up to
your work. Your work is as poignant as a sack of cat farts.
I should have read that. That's licorice.
You're ashamed pile of it is idiocy, a shame pile? I don't
know what that means. But okay, so that's how hard they up.
But I will say only on the no agenda show. Will you get the
full Charlie Sheen quote, exactly. Only on the no agenda
show. So
I'm listening to another debate.
Right, right down cat farts.
Cat farts.
Just just the idea of a cat fart just I like the idea.
So I'm listening to this thing. And they're going on. And I
thought the whole thing was summarized. This is the one is
this. I want? Oh, yeah, this is the clip says I won't be
watching. They had a bunch of people arguing about why Trump
should be on the debate who's not gonna be on the bay and all
this. They were about to debate. These guys are all the political
political analysts. For the I believe this was CNN. They're
all these, including this old fart, who I can't I didn't write
his name down. But he's just you've seen him a million times.
And he's just hates Trump. And, and now I'm, I just want you to
listen to his comment at the very end is a very short clip, I
only clip the end. This is a guy whose work whose job it is to
inform the public about things. And this is his attitude about
the Republican debate. If Trump's in it
stands of debate. So they've come up with this system, where
they are going to average the most recent five polls, to pick
the top candidates. And those are the ones on the debate.
Watching. Thank you. I won't be watching thank you, because he's
a clown. You can't watch Trump because he's not serious.
People. blessum People love winners in America. Why are we
all allowed to like the biggest, richest, most pompous asshole in
entertainment being Jay Z, and we all love Jay Z. And he's got
to be Yonsei this his wife, but yet, we all have to make jokes
about Donald Trump, who has a hotter wife than Beyonce and
more money and it's more pompous.
He's heavily more pompous. But here's the irony, because
the truth is America actually loves this kind of person.
I believe you're right on that. And here's the irony of Trump,
especially amongst the Republicans. All we've heard
since I was a kid. Oh, we need more businessmen to run for
office. Thank you. We need more businessman to run the
government. We don't have enough businessmen. They don't think
like businessmen. So you got this guy who is the ultimate
businessman. Yeah, he's successful in business. He's got
huge skyscrapers, Trump Tower among them hotwire, built the
old Biltmore and put in the Grand Central Hyatt hot
children. He's got great looking family, a big family, a very
successful family. He's
promised drugs. He's a Presbyterian.
He's got media experience. He's been on the television. So he's
like Reagan in that regard. He knows how to play to the camera,
and he doesn't have a bunch of handlers. He's got everything
that they've been bitching that they want.
Yes. And now he's here. And now they're afraid because they have
no control of him, particularly the media has zero control. And
that's why you're seeing this take place. And I love it.
Yeah, we got that impression. But let's segue into what is
going on on the other half of the culture, which is denying
what you're talking about. Okay. Which is the self esteem
movement.
And what is it Wait, there's a movement? Well, we'll
talk about it it is in the clips, I could probably clip too
many clips. But
could I suggest something? Just a programming note? Yeah, could
I suggest we tease this and move it to the D block?
That's actually the F Block you're talking about.
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discuss I think something very important which is this the
movement
okay and I over clip this there's a lot of clips I
tried to let's just do with the self esteem movement.
I've over clipped this a little bit this is from one of my
favorite shows which I just think is a great show it's a
it's called a real sports with Brian Gumbel.
Yeah, something
it's like a 60 midday In fact, it's so good that one of the
other cable networks the cable show when the other cable
networks decided to do 60 minutes sports so 60 minutes
actually got in on this to try to but they don't do as good a
job they don't have the right reporters these guys are all
sports guys. And so they stumbled across the story on the
self esteem problem. And it begins with this interesting
premise which we're we're ruining our children and we know
this with and it began in the 1980s with the self esteem
movement, but let's start with the premise of the of the whole
little bit that they do with self esteem one It's
the final day of The season at a youth sports league outside
Tampa, Florida. And while you may think you're just looking at
kids playing games, you're actually looking at a lot more.
Nothing less than back then a seismic shift in American
culture. Everybody ready for some trophies? A cult culture
that miraculously produces nothing but winners. How many
kids do you have out here tonight? That's 650 How many
kids will get trophies? All 650? You think this is a good idea?
We think it's a great idea.
Ryan Sanders is the president of I nine sports which runs more
than 1000 youth leagues across the United States. This is the
division champion trophy. Correct. And this is the all
star trophy. Can I assume the all star trophy? Is the one
given to everybody who's not a champion? Yes. Why is it
necessary to call them all stars? To make them
feel special? And help them understand that by participating
being part of the team by completing the season they are
star?
Special is a key word. I've heard that a lot. Yeah, we want
to make things we want to make a child feel special.
There's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive
atmosphere. But we laugh a lot. Now everyone can share a secret.
It actually
gets worse than that joke clip,
play. And really, this is great. I love this John, the self
esteem movement. I didn't know that there was actually
Oh, this was actually explained later when they do a little
retrospective on when it began in the 1980s. With with with a
clip from an old film they were showing in California because
California is the center of this thing. But it's all over now. I
mean, that was in Tampa, Florida, the whole country has
been plagued by this. And as we go through the six clips, you're
gonna find it gets more sickening each clip but let's
play self esteem to
as isn't even a trophy for effort or trying. It's a trophy
for participation. It sets the bar pretty low.
Jean Twinkie is a psychology professor at San Diego State
University, who says America's trophy culture is actually
hurting our kids. That seems so harmless. Little Johnny got a
trophy. Yeah, he made 22 errors, you know, about it zero. And the
team finished last, give the kid a trophy to which you say
can which I say give the kid a hug. And let's practice more and
figure out how not not to make too many errors. But a trophy
puts what in his head trophy puts in his head that that
whatever he did was good enough, even when it clearly wasn't. And
that's not how the real world works.
So you're saying this is bigger than Little League?
Yes. And it's a it's an issue of the culture changing.
That change in America's culture started a generation ago, when
educators started to be influenced by trends in
psychology. And the big new idea was something called the self
esteem movement.
Self esteem is as important as good nutrition, good health, and
in my view, more important than making good grades.
Researcher, Ashley Lerman has written extensively about the
movement
in the state of California had a task force in the 1980s to study
self esteem. And we thought, especially for kids in
struggling communities, if we just told them, they were great.
They would believe it. And then they could achieve more because
they were certain they were great. And sports literally
coaches, teachers, anyone working with kids and will how
do we build kids self esteem? Well, we'll give them stickers.
That's your great trophy, and we'll give them a medal.
But you're saying there's just one thing wrong with this
theory.
None of it works. Yeah.
I will say, when I was in fifth grade, there was a sports day.
And for some reason, I there was a period in my life where I'm in
the fifth grade. I was pretty decent at high jump. And I'm not
an athletic guy at all. Well, except for my spin class now,
but and I recall that I got pretty far I did okay, and then
I think I tripped or some stupid like shrimp shrimp, the skin, my
elbows and high elbow. I was gonna do the high jump, but then
I've big massive fail. And I was disappointed. And I do recall,
they had what they called the poodle prize. This is a Dutch
Hizam the poodle prize, which may what would that be the booby
prize, maybe at a
movie, and I got to do the booby prize. Anyway, that's another
point that wasn't made it in this in this piece. And I liked
the booby prize because it was one it was a yellow ribbon.
Yeah, it wasn't red or blue or why it was a yellow ribbon. It
said you know like booby prize and and I felt good but it was
just one you know, they had to choose who had had tried the
hardest or showed some excellence and was just an
awkward doofus and I think it is so and I remember this and I
think but that it that did help my self esteem. Well, it was
just one not for me.
You'd better high jumper as the question. No, of course not. The
thing is, you know, there's arguments can be made that well,
these kids are well, you'll actually the arguments made
better in the clips and I can say so let's start going to this
self esteem clip three.
Everybody gets a trophy every single time. What's the point?
Merriman says by creating the illusion of success for children
by making them feel so special, the self esteem movement has
failed to teach them how to actually succeed. To Merriman
losing is good for you. Yeah, well, those trophies not so much
I hate everybody gets a trophy programs. You make it sound like
it's a felony to give a seven year old a trophy. Why are you
such a Grinch about this?
I want kids to improve. And I want kids to be engaged in the
process of improvement
if they get a trophy they won't want to improve.
Why would they? Why do they need to you've already given them a
trophy. You've made them be a winner. Now the kids
in college and he gets to see because that's what he deserves.
What happens?
Well, often they freak out, freak out. Well, they don't
believe it. Something's wrong. That teacher must be out for me.
Because he doesn't know how great I am. And the
reason that Ken nice vocal fry on that check, by the way.
Yeah, he thinks he's great. Is because we told him that by
giving them trophies his
whole life. It's saying you're special. Here's your 17th place
metal. And they make 17th Place ribbons now.
No. Oh, yeah. Turns out all those trophies and all the
praise don't lead to achievement, they often lead to
delusion. Take the college students study show that these
days they believe they're much smarter than they actually are.
That percentage of college students you think they're above
average academic ability has gone way up over a time period
when actual performance is either unchanged or down. So
that wait so
so their ability is either stayed the same from let's say,
the 60s till today? Exactly, yep. Or it actually went down.
But when you ask them what they think of themselves, they say,
I'm fantastic.
Yeah, this is great. Now I want to mention something here and of
course, interrupting it every so often, like this guy, get away
with a large lifting of the material. That's why this this
is this is already since it started in the 80s. And those
are people that were you know, graduating shortly thereafter
often these are the people this is noodle boy. Oh toma people we
bitch about on the show constantly. My wife complains
about these people they're lousy workers. And then they don't
under they can't take criticism. This is the biggest thing you
run into these a lot of people are kids a lot of people under
the age of 30 or so they can't take criticism
well worse when when they're not at home after their you know
they move out when they're 31 they can't function it's
everything's unfair and that guys do she doesn't do did not
have the I tried my best. Yet they have their code on at five
to five they come in and 903 I know. I know. They're
always coming late. In fact, you used to. You didn't bitch about
it. You always said you're over naevia I observed this motion
making book gun stuff. You would always talk about how Ron are
hated everyone come in always comes in late at the operation
not even worrying code. I met with our coders and they're
crazy. Yeah, okay, that can happen. Do you stood outside
once in Washington? People come in with a clock
in your hand. That's right. I said good morning. You're 45
minutes late.
Yeah, you would do that. And they wouldn't take Oh, that's
Yeah. Okay. Thanks. Thanks for the update. Nobody care. So
let's play this.
Well, there's that. That was my authority, my authority.
Tremendous
self esteem for let's go on.
A recent survey revealed that a third of college students say
they deserve at least a grade of B if they simply attended most
classes in a course. But if you think today's college kids are
pleased with themselves, wait until you meet the generation
coming up.
Preschoolers sometimes now sing a song to the tune of Farah
Chaka that goes like this. I am special. I am special. Look at
me. Look at me.
God damn We're doomed. We need Donald Trump.
I don't know what's gonna happen to us with this group coming up
that sings that song it's this is bad man. This is really bad
I'm glad that this was aired it was done on a course on a sports
show that no but I don't want to watch it. No one was forced guys
watch that show but did public know it which is a shame because
this is really an outstanding product that Gumball put
together.
I agree and
The thing about this, I've been wanting to do this, like my
educational thing I've been wanting to do is like,
this is what happened. So we told you, you, Greg, John,
you're great. And then you said, Yeah, I'm so great. I don't have
I can just promise this stuff for decades and never deliver.
It comes.
Yeah. Whereas somebody else did it. But it gets done. But this
is the show, I couldn't have done it this well, because he's
out there in the field, getting all these great quotes that I
you know, we don't do that sort of thing on this show. But this
is just like, outrageous. So let's play. This is the this is
a funny one that was near the end of the presentation. This is
self esteem. What parents want half
million kids nationwide. A few years ago, she did the
unthinkable. She suggested that not everyone should get a
trophy.
We used to give trophies all the way up to the 19 year olds.
Are you telling me 19 year old for the last place team
controllers, because you're afraid of hurting their
feelings? Well,
it was just something that was are always done.
Anderson decided that at least the older kid should actually
have to win to get a trophy and be told that's when the fun
really started.
Some parents went out and bought their own trophies for the kid
for the whole team. In fact,
some parents went out and bought trophies because you weren't
giving them trophies anymore. They hate you. They must.
They were pretty angry. Yes. And thought that we were crushing
the dreams of the little athletes. Yes.
Every full Anderson reluctantly still puts in an order for her
eight and under kids 1200 trophies in all,
they get trophies for showing up. Yes. Or not showing up? What
do you mean for not showing up? Regardless of if their name is
on the T on the roster, they get a trophy.
Oh, and there's one more thing we don't keep score, you don't
keep score. I want to make sure I understand this before I
faint. You don't keep score in the games now. And they get a
trophy on top of that. What are you raising here, I know
that it's what the parents want
less than 10 minutes to go. Just let you know.
And his last clip is does a psychiatrist or brain student
are not a student but a professor of brain studies or
something like that. And he, he has this new term that was kind
of interesting. But play this self esteem punch line.
With no score. Of course, there are no losers and no one gets to
feel bad. But it's not just a few critics who think this is
all wrong. It's also scientists in white lab coats is the reward
circuit. Robert Klein and Juris Doctor at Washington University
in St. Louis, who has studied the brain and says there is
biological evidence that to many rewards hurts us a lot more than
it helps us
the technical term is the partial reinforcement,
extinction effect. And in English, all that means is if
you constantly reward a kid, you spoil them, and you don't build
a capacity for them to be resilient to frustration.
Exactly. We're doomed. We're doomed. We are doomed.
And the parents what the parents want. And they throughout this
whole presentation. It was you know, showing a lot of parents
so happy that he walks up to one kid and says, Look, kid, cute
little kid, but you could tell he's got no interest in any of
this. So you got a trophy? Yeah, yeah, guy. But yeah. Where'd you
Where'd you come at first? No. Second note. You came in last?
Yeah. came in last. And you know, the mom is just beaming. I
mean, it's just really borderline sick. Yeah, I mean,
it's
not borderline it is it is.
But gamble points out. He says, Well, what you know, is this any
different than the parents who drive their kids you know, to be
you got to you know, I mean
real, real good parents, parent parents who are really
outstanding, and really care about their kids. They've put
them on a leash.
But you don't want to get him killed. Like you. So anyway,
this is the self esteem thing, and it's coming to a head. Well,
that's
good work. John. I'm glad I'm glad you put that together.
Because we've all we played the joke clip about we don't have
winners. It's a problem. I don't even know if it's reversible at
this point.
No, that is encoded so it's ingrained is D I think the
Depression The Big O that'll help. Yeah, like everything
crazy. And then these the kids may reset but right now they've
got jobs and bang gang and there they a lot of these kids are
these. These self esteem raised kids with it with high like they
say with a college because they think they're smarter. They
think they're better than their They think they're smarter than
they are. They had this you see it like you were bitching about
the I think people exactly. I think I think I think I mean, we
don't know you don't you know, do you have any facts or in and
I believe it gets worse. And I And by the way, we were talking
about getting worse, I'm gonna say that, from my experience as
a columnist who gets a lot of feedback. I think some of them
comments that are coming in from people or they're apparent that
these group this group is permeated the entire tech scene.
Yes, I was going to go there by by saying that it's so bad now
that people in command of conversations, do not call
people out and say what you think is irrelevant, because
they're afraid to offend them. This is this is the bad part.
People who have parents, they're now doing it with their peers.
They don't want to offend anybody. This is why Donald
Trump resonates. I'll get off the Donald Trump train now.
Good work on resonates with guys like you? He does?
Yeah, he does. I would like to finish up since we have our 10
more minutes with there was a second video released of the
Planned Parenthood baby crushing the baby choppers. Baby
choppers. Yep.
And fishing is more appropriate when you crush them. So this
entire this entire thing that's happening is falls under the
heading bad optics. Which I haven't heard anyone use that
term yet, but that's what they should be using. None of this is
necessarily completely evil or illegal. But the particularly
the second video, the woman in the second video is just scary
looking. Oh, she's a creep. Just scary looking.
She looks like a ghoul. Yes, she
does. If you're you ask your kid to draw Google and remember, you
get a trophy for drawing it no matter what. Even if it sucks,
even if it sucks. So everyone has this is this is very
disturbing for people before Obama bots. So just categorize
him. It's very, very disturbing. Because they can't get around
their head that something bad would be happening at this
organization, which is headed by just one of the most beautiful
women alive today. Cecile Richards just saw this. This
woman is stunning, striking, very photogenic and breaking.
Oh, she's just I mean, and she's she's 50. She's my age, I guess
maybe a little older. It's just striking woman she looks a lot
like Robin Wright in House of Cards.
Yeah, that's the model. Yeah, proof striking.
So before I play a couple of select clips I've pulled from
the second video because I think it is important that we play
that since is getting zero play anywhere else. This is an MSNBC
some guest makes a comparison will do anything now to cover
over the bad optics of what Planned Parenthood has doing
with these with these videos, or what is being done to them with
these videos really, uh, see how they, how they speak and how
Cavalier they are. And I will say, I know a lot of people in
the medical field if there's you know, of course when you're
around death and sorrow and pain and all kinds of shitty things,
then you you make you make light of the situation. You know, you
talk about the patience and probably not such a nice way if
the patient's heard it. That's just what it is. It's just
matter of fact, you know, every you should hear airlines the
pilots talk before I forget there was I saw some guy who you
can chat in these planes you know the other you can chat with
other passengers. Planes this oh, this is on the Southwest has
it I think
I've seen this I've never even thought ah, but there is
now a reason to do it. Okay, because you're allowed to create
your own handle your own nickname, though so you can do
it anonymously. Well, you could Yeah, you can do it anonymously
which is bad so no, this guy you know what his handle was pilot
and he was saying all right everybody time to go let me just
put it in reverse and slowly release the clutch that was just
the beginning. I was like hey, I
think it was the pilot. No, of course not. Oh, just
just some Joker and you can say all kinds of crazy shit big
avoid. The pilot just said this as a no agenda tip. All right
here is MSNBC some person who has no knowledge of how this
particular medical function works in the real world, but
trying to use this to talk about the legality and morality of the
baby crunchers.
Talk to me about those numbers. I mean, to what degree do those
seem reasonable in the sort of the course of medical transport?
Well, I think it's helpful to understand what the money is
for. So I certainly have full confidence that there isn't a
profit being made under these circumstances. So imagine that
you do something familiar, like you go to give blood. So you go
to donate blood, you go to the Sun After you have a technician
who places an IV, you donate the blood, the blood goes into a
little bag, the bag goes into a little cooler, people have done
blood donation, right? So that's someone's job who has to help
with the blood donation, make sure the donated blood goes to
the appropriate place, it's transported to the hospital. So
those are jobs people have. So the cost there are costs
associated with donation. And that's exactly what this is for.
So those are seem like reasonable numbers that would go
along with that kind of donation.
That's not how blood donations work. I would like to remind
everybody, when you donate blood to the Red Cross, who are
usually the people doing the blood drive, they are the
primary source for purchase of blood. They don't give it to the
hospital, they don't they put the you could it is sold. There,
it's a huge amount of money. The Red Cross is in the blood
selling business. Yeah, here we go. Here's the Google, the
Planned Parenthood goal. And maybe we should just say the
mouth, I'll hold that for later. Here she is negotiating about
the price. And of course, he was,
by the way illegal. What was illegal, the negotiation of
those three things you name that were illegal, and this is the
second one you can negotiate.
She was negotiating for price, what would you expect
for
intact tissue? What sort of compensation what sort of
ways to pay?
So you may not be able to hear but she says why don't you start
by telling me what you want to pay? Unless you're used to
paying used to paying? Yes,
I don't think so. I would like to, I would like to know, what
would make you happy? What would work for you?
You know, negotiate because the person throws up the figure
first. So last, right. So
if you have to see the face on this woman, which is well, you
know, in negotiation, the person who throws out the number first
is at a disadvantage.
She actually says right there. That's the incriminated
negotiations and negotiations. No, I don't look at it that way.
I know you want to play that game. I get it. No, I want from
you so low.
I don't want a low.
If you lowball I'll act pleasantly surprised. And you'll
know it's low ball.
What I want to know,
can I say if this woman if I was sitting there even if that were
that ghoulish face of hers. When someone said that to me, I'd be
a you recording this shit. You're going to negotiate with
me. And you just promise me if I lowball the number, you're going
to act surprise, but same. Yeah, no, it has to be more. What
point is this woman not saying Hold on a second. Does that make
any sense to you?
I would be well as a couple of things that I think you're this
river. I think there's a couple of things that should be
mentioned one. She's so cavalier, the woman the ghoulish
woman, she's so cavalier that this has to be going on all the
time. Because if if there was any sense of the impropriety of
this, in other words, that never happens. She would be more
conscientious. And she would say, Are you recording this?
Which is what you would do? Yes, but But I'm guessing that this
because this is a common place, which is overlooked by people
when they announce analyzed, especially the ones defending
Planned Parenthood, this is obviously such a common place
that none of this sticks out to her.
I will actually sorry,
a little louder into my flour.
Yeah, at the beginning of this, I saw the transcript at the
beginning, the name of the guy or the woman, the shield's
undercover people actually say, Wow, the radio is really loud.
You think we're gonna have that turned down? I mean, come on,
come on. I'd be like, Why do you want that turn down? That
doesn't make much sense. I'll skip the rest of that clip. The
here's the second one. This is another law breaking discussion
about changing the procedure, the protocol. So in order to in
order to would the change in procedure is not the issue. It
is telling someone you're going to do a procedure and not
telling them you change the procedure. That is illegal,
unless you have a problem. If our usual technique is suction
10 to 12 weeks, and we switch to using iPads or something with
less suction in order to increase the odds that will come
out as an attack specimen, then we're kind of violating the
protocol that says to the patient, we're not doing
anything different
in our care. So I don't know if it's if it's audible enough.
You can kind of hear me,
but I'll just translate it just transcript on the fly. She says
look, if we change the protocol from something with a sucks We
currently use something with less suction, so you get more
chance of an intact, aborted fetus. That's kind of she says
kind of a little bit fudging a bit with the protocol.
To me, that's a kind of a specious. And I wouldn't object
to asking certain test cases, to use an IPS that that gestational
age in order to increase the odds that he was going to get an
attack specimen. But I do need to throw it out there as a
concern because the patient is signing something loose on
something saying we're not changing anything. We're
managing you just because we need to give tissue
It's touching. Okay, how do you? So what she says there is I
don't mind asking the surgeon to do that. Then she says, I don't
think the patients will care one iota. Again, the cavalier
attitude of just breaking the law. I think that is an actual
law. That does not just protocol, you can't do that. And
here is the part where if and I think the mistake of this
campaign to discredit Planned Parenthood is, is flawed because
this is really not that it's so crappy, this this recording, you
don't have great quotes, it can't really go super viral. And
so that's why they sex it up a lot with editing and they sex it
up a lot, which is now pretty much the primary defense this
heavily edited video, heavily edited video, heavily edited
video, like the rest of your shit isn't heavily edited.
here's the here's the bad optics, if it's audible enough
to the editor, how we feel about using less crunchy techniques to
get more or
less crunchy take near
the less crunchy technique.
Disgusting. This is remote for some reason and that woman that
you know the beautiful, what's her name look like? Cecile
Richards, she were you when you start thinking if you look at
her differently, because of just the way she handles herself. If
you start thinking back on the old TV Series V. Yes. And you
man, you you look at the seal as a reptile that would open her
mouth real wide down would go a fetus. I mean, then you gotta
there's an optics for me try to fight off that image. Yes,
for some reason, my lady parts started to tingle when you
mentioned I don't know, that was just really strange.
Well, I'm not gonna make comment on that. But I would say this is
this is very, very bad in terms of their image. Uh, yeah,
they're gonna fight. They're just out to get us they're out
to get us they're out to get us. But they're really trying to do
is to try to end the fight to free taxpayer money that's
pouring into this. And then also to make them follow the law.
There's some law breaking going on. I'm doubt that these two are
the only ones I'm sure that oh, well, you know, I'm sure the
guerrilla guys went and found some people that would refuse to
do any of this and play along. But I'm sure that they could
find plenty that would so
fetus mouth lady Cecile sent a letter to Congress, saying, you
know, there may be more bad shit coming, possibly racist. So
there's more coming and they know it. And it's going to be
really bad racial stuff. It's going to be it's going to be
crap. This is what you get. This is what you get when you have
people who are in a business for long time, but just cavalier
about it.
I just received a message and they're sucking off the
government tit. Yeah. Oh, it's government money.
Of course. Federal money, federal. Yeah. And it's a lot of
money. And look, I know from the medical community that Planned
Parenthood is always pushing towards termination, that that's
what they do. It's their business, it is their business.
They push towards termination, which is fine. I don't care,
whatever you want to do. I have my own opinions about life and
death and what is murder and what is not. But it's going to
get really crappy. And I think the Genesis kind of the backdrop
of why I have an issue with Planned Parenthood when the
optics are bad is their founder, Margaret Sanger was along with
Bill Gates, his grandfather, I believe, father or grandfather,
they ran the eugenics Society of America, and they sterilized
1000s of black men in California, medically castrated
them that all kinds of crazy as quotes about, you know, just
anyone not white Anglo Saxon. So the the genesis of the
organization is, is killing people is eugenics, the
eugenicist Society of America you can look it up I'm not
making this up. And that was you know, only a generation and a
half ago. So then when you add to this the final kicker, which
you may or may not have, you have John because you know, you
saw the video, this about this compensation thing where she
comes back and she says, you'll hear what she says. You know,
it's been so long since I've thought about comping Session.
Yeah, that's because she's been doing it for so long number this
is a new group coming in wanting to do new prices. And she has
something in mind. It's been a year since
I've talked about cessation. So when we just figure out what
this is, and that's fine. You
so she says, I want to make sure we're not low balling I'll check
with what we're receiving in California admitting that that
happens. Because I want a Lamborghini guy says what this
is I want a Lamborghini. So does that mean that she expects is
that her way of of telegraphing that she wants to pay off for
the deal? Because that's the way I read
it. Oh, idea. So I know as a dad, you're talking about
optics. That was bad. That's the
worst optics in the world. All right. I think what do you
think? Do you want to wrap it up? Or you got one more kicker
to
click one kind of a kicker this was on. This was a very funny
thing. This Martin O'Malley because Martin O'Malley is a
Democrat who was speaking in front of a bunch of Phoenix
Democrats. Liberals as they like to put it on Fox it
was this the Netroots Nation thing? Sorry, Netroots Nation.
No, no, no, sorry. This was that may have been but I don't know.
I think it's just some meeting. And he's talking about Black
Lives Matter. And he made a mistake. And Kelly, Megan guy
had to leave Kelly's little commentary because she's always
making snide remarks.
That's just what your woman making snide remarks is very
trying.
Yes. I can imagine her on a date. You're gonna order that
really?
You asked me to do what? Why?
You get the wrong girl. Your house. Martin O'Malley says he
says something just casually and gets booed. When he says all
lives matter. And it was not the right way I understand it. I
understand what was going on here. Because I've studied this
or studied I've had to deal with this sort of thinking, but the
way they played it. It's very funny. This is the play this
clip
every life matters. And that is why this issue is so important.
Black Lives Matter. white lives matter. Oh.
That's Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley
getting heckled at a liberal convention for actually saying
all lives matter. Imagine that he then leader came out and
apologized for saying that he sorry.
I was walking past to Starbucks yesterday and the here in Austin
that's on what is it? Third Street? Near Lavaca? I think.
And there's this couple of benches outside and blue is
interesting. typesetting their bloods right in the same
building as the W so there's a lot of people who work in the,
you know, in the backstage at the W they actually have a door
right there, which is backstage entrance. But it's for people
making less than 15 bucks an hour.
Yeah, that's why they call the actors. Yeah. And that's a
Disney trick.
Yep. There was a conversation going on as I walked by, and I
hear this black guy saying, you know, I don't I don't like the
Black Lives Matter movement. I think all lives matter. And I my
feeling and I've had this for a while just in just in general.
Just I got my ears open that black Americans don't like this
idea. They feel it's even more divisive. Or divisive.
I'm sure it's divisive. But one of the ESPN guys got nothing but
harassed and he's one of the more outspoken spoken one of
these announcers Stephen A Smith and he said I don't get why they
booed this guy for saying all lives matter. He said why don't
we bitching about black on black violence nobody ever brings up
exactly and he got a rat here rang this by the way as part of
his self esteem thing. Ah, this is all part of this this this is
a problem that's growing I mean, this guy Steven a Smith would
not be the kind of guy that would they would be harassed by
anybody but this is going on at all levels of society where you
have these things you're supposed to say you better say
him Yeah, a certain way and they're and I can explain and
I'll do it on the next show. I'm trying to do this on the next
show. Why all black lives matter as a statement is it has a
different meaning than and why they would boo O'Malley or
anybody else
nice tease. You went from the F block to the a block of next
show.
rationale for this and I have anecdotes about it now and it is
again the beginning of the end for the culture. It's self
esteem thing continues but
I cannot leave us now without big As of the this being about
race, the incredible racial statement made by our brand new
Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, the country singer. And she came
out and talked about the federal indictment of Dylann Storm Roof.
And how anyone can say that name with a straight face is still
beyond me. Dylann Storm Roof at the AME Church, you're
saying it wrong? It's Dylann Storm Roof Oh, yes.
Dylann, Storm Roof, Storm Roof Storm Roof all based on just
supposition, you know, no evidence, no statement, no
statement from from this from this kid. And of course, what
caught my eye is, you know, the magic number here today to
announce that a federal grand jury in South Carolina has
returned a 33 count indictment.
I mean, you just got to stop when you hear that when you hear
a 33 count indictment. That means pay attention, no agenda
listeners and listen to the word she's using. About this guy
based on as far as I know, zero statement zero evidence. And
just cuz it's a racist racist press conference
against Dylann Storm Roof, charging him with federal hate
crimes and firearms charges for killing and attempting to kill
African American parishioners at Emanuel African Methodist
Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina.
Now notice that she says hate crimes, federal hate crimes. So
these carry a much stronger penalty, because if you kill
somebody, then it's different. If you kill somebody while you
hate them, abuse clearly don't love them if you kill them. So
I've never understood a crime is a crime, whether you've done it
out of love, hate whatever it's a crime,
because of their race, and in order to interfere with their
exercise of their religion, really stepped forth in the
indictment. Several months prior to the tragic events of June
17th. Ruth conceived of his goal of increasing racial tensions
throughout the nation and seeking retribution for
perceived wrongs that he believed African Americans have
committed against white people.
So our Attorney General is saying that this guy did this
because he wanted to increase racial tensions in America. I
have a hard time believing he said that. And I've seen have
you seen any evidence I haven't
seen in each statement from him. To carry
out these twin goals of fanning racial flames and exacting
revenge. Ruth further decided to seek out and murder African
Americans because of their race. An essential element of his
plan, however, was to find his victims inside of a church,
specifically an African American church.
Did he write a manifesto I
didn't read or something i There must be some deposition or
something nothing.
I can't find anything that says this
to ensure the greatest notoriety and attention to his actions as
alleged
roof set alleged there it is as alleged, as alleged out the
evening of June 17 2015, to carry out this plan and drove to
the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston,
South Carolina, known as Mother Emanuel. Mother Emanuel was his
destination, specifically because it was an historically
African American church of significance to the people of
Charleston of South Carolina and to the nation. On that summer
evening, Dylann Roof found his targets, African Americans
engaged in worship that was welcomed by the ministers of the
church and his parishioners
a bit did he hate God? Did he hate the church? I mean, why,
why there's no real explanation. But to say his goal was to get
black people who are praying Yeah, that's what I want to do.
Come on.
He joined them in their Bible study group that parishioners
had Bibles Dylann Roof had his 45 caliber Glock pistol and
eight magazines loaded with hollow point bullets.
That is I mean, this is not a press statement. This is a this
is a novel. The parishioners had Bibles he had a Glock 45 with
hollow point bullets, and not acting much like a lawyer other
than one who wants to win a case regardless,
and a set forth in the indictment. While the
parishioners of Mother Emanuel are engaged in religious worship
and Bible study, Dylann Roof drew his pistol and opened fire
on them, ultimately killing nine church members. Now, as you
know, the state of South Carolina is also prosecuting
roof for the murders, attempted murders and firearms offenses
that he's alleged to have committed. We commend the South
Carolina State authorities for their tremendous work and their
quick response. It is important to note however, that South
Carolina No does not have a hate crimes statute. And as a result,
the state charges do not reflect the alleged hate crimes offenses
presented in the federal indictment returned today.
And that's what I think this is about. I believe this is another
move by the federal government to say, shut up with your states
rights view, you've got to do this. And there. I think the
Attorney General is shaming the state into passing you just
shaming them in anything shaming them to do something,
they get a hate crime law passed.
And this is no different than the intent. And and we haven't
really talked about this. This is no different than the
Confederate flag issue. The whole point of this exercise was
to for the federal government to tell the state what to do.
That's what this is about.
Well, that's what they're gonna do.
Well, yeah, of course. I'm not saying that we can win, John.
There's no winning. No, just
tell each other seeker. There's no winning No. And why should we
want to win? The fun out of it at first, we'll
keep score.
Oh, don't do that.
I'm erasing my minus two points from earlier in the show.
Are you going back to No, there's
no scores. I'm not taking score anymore. Oh,
yes. Good point. Good point. All right, everybody. We will have
another show on Sunday. Looking forward to it. And we'll start
to working on my acceptance speech for the podcast Hall of
Fame.
Oh, yes. We have talked about that a little bit off. Off
camera off. I do want to talk about I'm going to talk about
the Black Lives Matter why this phrase itself is different than
saying white lives matter. And also I have a deconstruction
coming up of this. John Stewart Obama, little Anita Tay which
includes a number of very interesting tidbits that I think
were overlooked by
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