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Last minute Charlie works for
me. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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Third December 25 2014. time you
get my nation media

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assassination episode 681

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This is no agenda

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celebrating another Bogota
holiday season from FEMA Region

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six in the capital. The drone
Star State Austin, Texas in the

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morning everybody. I'm Adam
curry

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is the king of sales. It's not
Bogut of Silicon Valley. I'm

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John C. Dvorak. Kill

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Bogut IV

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sales sales. Yes. Wait, wait,
wait, I have yesterday you know,

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it's both good in the sense that
we this is another you know, I

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had to care that I had those up
north and I shouldn't bring them

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back.

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I brought mine I brought mine.
And I brought Well, I brought my

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little kid.

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Chris Christmas slave.

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Yes. Merry Christmas to you,
John.

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Well, Merry Christmas. Do you
add a merry christmas doll of

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ships? That subs in the water.
And the bays and bottles out

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there?

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This is a although it is a
regular sequentially numbered.

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Episode.

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This is yes. Did on the math.

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I believe me I checked three
times. You did very easy to to

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mess this up. This is a special
episode that we are are

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producing for Christmas. Why are
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Well, they're doing this so we
don't have to work on Christmas,

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which falls on one of our show
days. Yes. And, and the thing

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and of course I promote this.
Commonly every year I bitch and

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moan about it, actually,

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but no one's listening. And

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there is nobody out there. So
you might as well just do this.

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We do a show we did this show
earlier. And the pre Christmas.

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And actually we did this last
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Yeah, yeah, we did. We did. We
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about maybe doing, you know, a
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or all these different things.
We could have demo, maybe just a

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little ketchup. For people that
are new listeners that know

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about the show they'd like to
show they enjoy the show. But

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they may have missed some of the
memes or some of the history and

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they don't really want to go
back and listen to 600 shows. Do

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also want also want to explain a
bit of what how the show was put

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think so we can do that. I

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mean, I put together a number of
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with clips, which is good. And
of course I haven't heard any

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seminal clips. I think they're
seminal. They're old. Most of

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them. Some of them are that a
couple years. But some of them

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are seven or seven years old.
Six Mosley and I couple things.

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Are these clips that you have
saved that you go back into the

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archives and listen to shows

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all the clips. Yeah, I save
them. I also put it together

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little files of little evergreen
clips that I apparently had put

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together. I forgot about this
until I started digging around.

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little clips of things that
annoyed me. Oh, okay, so I put

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them in. And I ended it gave me
a I now have kind of a story to

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tell about some of the other
show developed in a different

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way than our people out there
who want to know about the show

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in the background, you go dig up
show 200.1 and probably even

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better is 2.2, which has 200.1
in it, right. And it gives us

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the story of no agenda. But when
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as a historian mining, data
mining it, some of the origins

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are different than are in 200.1
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have here which I'll tease,
which is I believe the origins

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of the show, the modern show not
to show that we first started,

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the show we started was you and
I talking to to develop a show

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it's it's almost as though the
early shows which are dreadful

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to be honest about and I would
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Someone tweeted the other day,
they were listening to the daily

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source code from everything was
July 7. What year we start

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2008 2007 embedded seven I think
it was it was a very old daily

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source code. And on that daily
source code, I was talking about

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reading Confessions of an
economic hitman, which was a

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recommendation from you, which
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recommend that I read that book
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of our initial conversations
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Could be I do know that the
Economic Hitman is we do have

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sacred texts we mentioned yes
each other Yes. And Confessions

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of an economic hitman come to
mind and also we actually never

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put together a list But I also
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series 13 episodes that Rubicon
is seminal legacy of ashes,

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Legacy of ashes and also the
book, the family of secrets. The

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I think that is a very important
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probably should put do I think
the no agenda book club has most

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of these books listed that we've
talked about over the years? I'm

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currently reading a book called
The Hindus, which is the one

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that has been banned in India.
Oh, really? Yeah. It's a very

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long book that is a very long
book by a very famous historian.

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Wendy, I can't remember her last
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I'm talking. And she wrote this,
she started wondering, which is

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the book about the history of
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And then it became this huge
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into a rabbit hole when the
genres are Wendy donnager. She's

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very famous now she's hated. She
used to be considered one of the

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great you know, I think
Westerners who really understood

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India, which she did, they got
everybody pissed off. And by the

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way, this book is, I would
recommend Yeah, Kindle or

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anything, this book is such a,
she is such a good writer. It

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just she just drags you right
through this the text in a

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breezy fast paced manners very
modern. But she apparently what

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she did is decided to take a
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the perspective of all the
Hindus until now, only the

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Brahmins you got to tell the
story. And the Brahmins they are

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putting up with this Nether
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untouchables about their past
history, how they came about and

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all the rest of it. And this is
not acceptable to the Brahmins

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who run India. So they banned
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of course, they say them.

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Well, actually, they're buying
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just that. Whatever the case is,
this is a tremendous book.

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I mean, I'm no agenda book.
club.com is pretty current. Here

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are some of the titles. The next
war Wesley Clark, the Republic

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of imagination, which we
discussed recently. We have, oh,

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a parent's guide to high
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disorder. I don't know what that
is doing on the list. They have

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Sinclair Lewis. It can't happen
here. Of course, excellent life

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and death and Shanghai. Family
of secrets. Smedley Butler's

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book, I don't know, but I'm
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I'm reading a couple. I'm
reading obviously, Babbitt,

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which is good. I'm also reading
the tongue kindled the Unabomber

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manifesto and other essays by
Theodore Kaczynski, ma times,

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you're gonna read that, while
the other it's the other. You

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know, funny enough. This is
probably my third time and every

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single time I go through it,
there's a little thing that I

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go. But it's the other essays
that I was interested in. Oh,

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and they're, they're quite good.
I don't think there's really any

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of that.

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That was that was it that he got
caught? But what do you like

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most writers know that your
writing is fairly distinctive by

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his brother recommend his
brother busted him because he

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said, Wait a minute.

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I'm using ourselves a failure
I'm using ourselves to death is

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on our list. As a couple of I
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the key ones.

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I do have a few clips to play.
And we can then we can wander

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off in any direction we want to
since this is kind of a show

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just for fun. Okay, well, we're
not going to do a lot of news,

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deconstruction in this
particular show. We did when we

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started doing the show, it was
like I look back on these as

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tried to peel trying to get used
to working together more than

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anything else. And I found that
we were both quite offensive to

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each other most of the time it
throughout. I think the first

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two or three years, it's a
miracle that this show is as

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good as it is at this point.

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It's a miracle. We even do the
show I want to as you will point

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out many times a show 100. I
said, Now let's stop doing this.

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It's another 100 episodes is
good, man. That's a good run.

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You were thinking about it again
in the 200 show but did dead

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didn't get as far but the 100 is
when you went I actually should

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dig that up. We look for the
formative clips in there. But it

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wasn't that interesting. We
haven't let me look at this

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list. I got these three. Here's
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i wasn't you and I have always
told people this that people in

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you are still European at the
time. And one night you were

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living in London. And we were
doing the show and I ended

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pacing of the show because there
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but we also have to recognize
the the improvement of

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technology. What I'd like to
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technology when we first started
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this. I think I had barely had
broadband where I was living at

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the time. So we did it. We had a
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good. Well, I mean, it sounds
now but it's still sounded good.

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Do you have a clip I can listen
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what here's, I just want to give
a couple of examples of

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misinterpreting each other. And
I was always afraid I was easily

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offended. Because I even though
I did, I broke out of it pretty

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quickly, because I knew that
your type of your pacing and

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your speech was going to have a
lot of Dutch influence, which

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which, which can sound

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rude and rude and

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sarcastic when is not correct.
That is that you have to deal

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with that and is but you can't
and you normally have a visceral

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response to it. And here's a
visual good example. I want you

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to play food cut down. Now that
this was from about 2009 Okay,

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I'm reminded of a story. So as
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of us eat a lot of hot chilies,
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as some of us do, who are really
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and and I'm quite comfortable
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food. He says some places in
India has served food that is

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excruciating, and maybe too much
for me. So I'm in Brazil, but

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you're

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a professional. Let's just be
honest. I mean, let's just call

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a spade a spade. Doing what I
need to point something else

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out. In these in this period, I
was also smoking marijuana all

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the time. Yeah, and I think that

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you constant references to
Patricia I might add. Oh,

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really? Yes. Yeah, I didn't
notice it until I started going

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through what kind of references
this is just bring her in as an

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anecdotal bounce bounce back
kind of thing. Patricia,

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Patricia, that it wasn't you
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at the time, obviously. But I
noticed it

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the same way I refer to Mickey

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Yeah. You're always doing this I
guess. Now. And I just smacking

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my lips. So he but here's the
thing about that, that clip that

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which was I was fuck is this guy
insulting me. Now, if you play

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food, about the hot pepper
challenge, this is the complete

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clip. And this brings us into by
playing the complete clip. This

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brings me into the segue as to
where I'll play myself being

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more dickish but I'll play I'm
going to clip after this is

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going to introduce modern no
agenda. Okay, here's what here's

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what really happened. On the on
the hot food incident. I'm

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reminded of a story says you
know, in California a lot of us

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eat a lot of hot chilies. And
although not necessarily as much

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as some of us do, who are really
kind of addicted to the chili.

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And and I'm quite comfortable
with the hottest imaginable food

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except some places in India has
served food that is

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excruciating, and maybe too much
for me. So I'm in Brazil, but

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you're a professional. Let's
just be honest. I mean, let's

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just call a spade a spade.

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Doing what your professional
foodie. Yeah. I'm a foodie.

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Yeah, yeah. So anyway, so I'm,
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Chili's for people out there who
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Well, I mean, besides the fact
you get a little bit. But you

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can see what happened there. You
interrupted in just throw in

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this. Just call a spade a spade
thing. And it was like about

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something else. But it became
awkward. And it took me forever

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to get used to this.

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And while that clip was playing,
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find it here in the bookcase.
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English specifically. This is
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when Dutch people, even if
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even the grammar. It's just the
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pacing. It's the cadence. Yeah.
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sometimes Mickey will say
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it still hit me for a minute I

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do well, you can not let it hit
you. It does hit you. But you

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just have to, which is the
problem with it. I brought this

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up on the show numerous times
about the Scandinavian, the

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Nordics and the and Dutch and
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has this problem. And it's and I
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when you get if you're gonna go
travel in these areas, people

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are just very honest, everyone's
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don't really it's not that much
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when they say what they when
they say something they mean it

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they're not being sarcastic when
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with you.

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But that's not actually sex.
They just mean to go to bed to

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sleep.

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They want sex, but it's not ever
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so it's so flat and bland,
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I think lunch

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that you think this is this is
what is she? What is she some

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sort of what is she trying to
tell me? You get you're offended

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by it. Because it sounds like
the person is being sarcastic

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or, or if you even ask them to
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yes, I'd like to go to bed with
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in my 50th year, I'm not too
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who go there, just believe them
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don't pay any attention to the
cadence. This brings me now

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finally understanding what you
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being sarcastic about Let's call
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threw that in but you did.

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That must have been that must
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something else, I get very
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whatever it

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was, I snapped out of it really
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example of me, you know, the Big
Shot trying to get? I don't

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know, I listen to this clip, but
the half dozen times going? What

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is the point of this clip? The
way I was trying to I had I

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guess something to say you were
you had a point to make. And you

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weren't gonna let me finish and
I wasn't gonna let you finish.

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And it's going back and forth
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finished with a piece of
information that it indeed would

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be good. You knew I didn't have
this information. And you kept

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trying to stop me but I
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relentless. And you get you
throughout the piece of

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information. And this, I believe
is the Genesis Okay, of the

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modern no agenda show that that
has become so popular. And what

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we do. And the joke of it is
when you hear the beginning of

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the origins of no agenda, the
little comment that you make is

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we don't talk about the news on
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You know, we don't usually
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know, the story that's been
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about the Ri a apparently some
lawyer in a court in the court

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case, stated that making a copy
of a CD. That would,

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by the way, this is my this is
my PC Magazine column for this

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week, by the way.

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Well, let me just see. Let me
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the same thing.

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Yeah, we're talking about the
idea that if you rip me now,

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wait, stop.

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No, stop, John. No, no, I'm not
doing my research. Listen to

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this. Listen to this. It turns
out that the this this started

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in a Washington Post article
written by a guy named Fisher,

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I believe, I know, I know, I
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Steve wells strim at the
Business Week, and a few other

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guys that come out and said, has
his ball. No.

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This doesn't No, no, no, you're
missing it. You're gonna listen

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to me. Now. Let me finish this.
Let me finish the sentence. He

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only he only cited half of the
quote, the quote that the person

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from the RIA made was, if you
rip a CD, put it on your hard

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drive in a shared folder. That
would be deemed illegal. And he

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chose not to quote that part in
the article that you didn't

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know.

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Well, okay.

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But that's, that's a big deal.

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They have been skirting they
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It was the start of concern.

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But this is because, well, this,
there's a couple of factors one,

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you, I'm sure you will also
there was when I was at pod

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show, were you working at poncho
at the time? You smack

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your lips? Yes.

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You probably thought I was
bimbo? To some degree,

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I don't know. Maybe it's hard to
say whatever the case was. That

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was an awkward situation you had
done. That was where you and I

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think it triggered a lot.
Because I think that's where you

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said, you know, it's not that
difficult to just get the full

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quote. It's not that difficult
to go read the legislation is

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not that difficult. I did all
the stuff that nobody else was

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doing right? More than I was,
that's for sure. And I know they

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got me doing the same way we've
co developed I believe co

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developed the no agenda thought
process,

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which really you need more than
one person to pull it off.

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Right? Because you have it
because both of us me more than

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you probably tend to get
suckered a little bit by mass

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media because I'm actually
watching more of them. You're

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watching junk. Or deep news. You
either watch junk junk junk,

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which is I'm talking to reality
TV, or deep news. I watch deep

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news, but I watch mainstream
media which is very I'm very so

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I'm more susceptible To the
messaging then you are, is the

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messaging in junk TV is? Yeah,
you know, it's pretty low. And

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to me,

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it's

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his it's like Maury Povich
messaging in there. Yeah. But

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it's who Kia, he's not really
affecting the politics.

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I really don't watch TV I have
TV on and it's either CNN or C

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span, those are the two, I just
find the most valuable. And

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really the funniest. The C span
is just funny. He's funny people

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show up. And it's all the people
who are also on C span, but then

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they show up with broth. And
it's just funny. And now I'm

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only trying to find out who the
sources are or people say or the

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numbers. And it was around this
period, when we were talking

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about on the show when the the
Lisbon Treaty was being voted on

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voted down by the Netherlands
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all over the Lisbon Treaty, and
you started reading it and what

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did I think this particular
incident? I'm believing

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especially because of the irony
of your first comment, we don't

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talk about the news. Now, all we
talk about is now we're not

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we're doing deconstructions of
ourselves, is a deconstruction

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of the show. Yeah, it's just
kind of what the theme of this

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show is. But we this all we do
is we deconstruct news, talk

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about news, look at news, and we
and then analyze it to get our

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thesis, which is that the news
is manipulated and controlled by

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forces that aren't healthy to
the public at large, right.

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That's what we do all the time.
So this clip marked the change

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from where you don't talk much
about the news, but

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Right. But meanwhile, here's
something I found that was

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manipulated in the news.

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Yes. And that was, I believe, is
the genesis of the entire show.

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And especially with
interrupting, and

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with a really crappy sound. I'm
sorry, that doesn't sound good

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at all. It sounds horrible,

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but doesn't sound great. But it
sounds horrible. If you compare

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it to other podcasts at the
time, and it's old. Yeah. Before

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we had all this

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for one 2008 Or one four was a
January 4.

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I think it was January 4 2008.
Yeah, we've just begun. That was

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early on. Or maybe there's for
one, I don't know. Whatever it

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was, it was. That was the I
think a moment that was

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important.

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It was also probably the moment
that I realized that I could

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impress you with some knowledge
that I had. Being a bimbo. Yeah,

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that's really all I, John. All
they really

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do is show you keeps the show to

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make you laugh. That's all I try
to make you laugh or impress you

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with something and I get a laugh
out of it. Yeah, that makes me

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impressed by some of the good
stuff. I mean, that was a good

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piece. Yeah. Did you do that
simple little thing. And we

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could have actually, if I wasn't
so stunned. I was like, stunned

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You don't

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sound that stunned, actually.
Well,

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I was I'm pretty cool.

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You know yourself.

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A, you know, he got me there.

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I realized there's it's what's
interesting about this show the

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past as seven years into our
eighth year, your situation has

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pretty much been constant. My
constant has been my situation

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has been always in change.

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Yes. Which is fine. It was it
was just the situation is

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constant, too. But

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I think that I think it's good.
I think it adds I feel

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well, I mean, yeah. Now that
back to that Washington Post

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thing, if the show was being
done today, and we had it would

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have that would have played out
differently, you would have just

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said the whole thing I wouldn't
have interrupt. So well, I wrote

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about this. What did you find
out? Because I know you'd have

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something and you'd have this
little thing about the shared

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folders, then we'd go deeper
from there, because at that

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point, I would have instead of
being stunned, I would have

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thought about it and said that's
not make sense to me. And I

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would have explained why the
quote was missed. Why was

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misquoted wasn't done. I bet
looking back on it. I don't

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believe it was done on purpose.
I believe that like every other

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piece of journalism we get today
from people that don't know what

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they're talking about. They're
just professional journalists.

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He didn't see the importance of
that little piece. He was just

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being tight. He was. So what,
yeah, he's to him to the writer.

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He was thinking, so what shared
folder where we as people

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somewhat familiar with the
technology to actually more than

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somewhat, we would have said
that's very important, it say,

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and he left it out, but he is
because I would argue this

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because he didn't know and he
just left it out because it was

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convenient to do so. And it was
or even an editor could have

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taken it out, which is very
common. And you know, it's just,

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it's not important. Boom, off it
goes.

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What I'm realizing here If you
watch any podcast tube, in fact,

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I'd say it's probably more
prevalent in podcasts where

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multiple people are talking, but
certainly in almost every

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interview you see or hear in
mainstream, people are listening

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to reply, not listening to
comprehend and understand. And

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what I think I've certainly
learned, is to listen to

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understand what you're saying,
not thinking of the next thing I

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can say, or how can I jump or
pile jump is what I call it is

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very hard. It's very, very hard
to listen to what someone is

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trying to say, not how am I
going to reply to this?

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Well, in a normal conversation,
I think and you get the I think

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you program yourself for this.
You have to listen mostly to

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reply, because you're in a
conversation and the skill of

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being able to listen to
comprehend, and then

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thoughtfully reply, which takes
time you have to stop, you can't

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get into a nice back and forth.
And you can't be a quick witted

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comic. By doing that, you have
to think about what they said.

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If that's the end, you might not
have anything to say in return,

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because you just have to mull it
over. I know that's why I think

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we discover so much stuff in
post, when I get my clip from a

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TV show or something and I put
it on the recorder, and then I

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bring it into the computer to
edit it. I'm now I've got

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nothing to do but listen to this
thing carefully, because I'm

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trying to edit it. And then I'll
hear things and then I played on

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the show and you will hear
something else. Right? Right.

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Right, right. That's why I can
you know, catch these little

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nuances once in a while. Which

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brings me to what we are doing
is an art that I think is going

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away, but maybe maybe it will
have a resurgence is purely

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listening. Everybody seems to
find it incredibly important to

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have video along when we've
talked about this before, but

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it's good to bring it up again.
Yes. Are we we presume our

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audience is not able to do
anything else while they're

443
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:12,480
listening to us and quite Wow,
it's like three hours you know,

444
00:27:12,540 --> 00:27:15,690
you it's hard to do that if just
sitting down doing nothing

445
00:27:15,690 --> 00:27:20,610
unless you're driving commuting
to exercise exercising or hard

446
00:27:21,090 --> 00:27:24,570
housework, housework gardening,
stuff that you can kind of do on

447
00:27:24,570 --> 00:27:29,550
autopilot. Right? And it's
important that that it is no one

448
00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:32,280
is like I've never even seen
your studio, there's no pictures

449
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,340
of my studio. There's no I want
everyone to have their own

450
00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:39,030
visualization. And I think
everyone has their own visuals

451
00:27:39,030 --> 00:27:43,350
like a book, you put it together
and and that is part of the art

452
00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:49,650
that we're both schooled in. I
am a Connecticut School of

453
00:27:49,650 --> 00:27:56,550
broadcasting graduate, I'll
point out I am great, honorary,

454
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,370
the one honorary degree I got
well, I

455
00:27:59,370 --> 00:28:01,020
did take broadcasting in
college.

456
00:28:01,410 --> 00:28:04,470
That's why I went to college, I
dropped out of bed for three

457
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:04,980
months.

458
00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:10,380
And I have and then went to the
Paul Allen School of

459
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:14,010
broadcasting where I learned my
video skills called Tech Tech

460
00:28:14,010 --> 00:28:19,860
TV. Right? It's the same thing.
And but we have we both knew or

461
00:28:19,860 --> 00:28:22,080
know and we appreciate and I
think a lot of other people do

462
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,540
even though they're doing the
video side of it, the important

463
00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:26,640
that greatness of audio.

464
00:28:28,410 --> 00:28:30,690
Communication. Yes. And it's

465
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,880
you know, people get like you
said they drive in their car,

466
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,040
they can listen to it. And
people talk about how they're,

467
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,610
you know, laughing people think
they're nuts, because you're

468
00:28:38,610 --> 00:28:42,540
laughing at something we said in
the middle of a drive.

469
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:48,450
And with that comes we're also
very, very good at silence. And

470
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,890
I love that so much, we can have
a moment of complete silence.

471
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,200
And it's, like half a second
longer than comfortable. And I

472
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,880
know people like lag the people
like what, what and of course,

473
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,800
we use noise gates to get all
sorts of part of our sound which

474
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,990
is designed and we've been
working on that for we're

475
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:14,670
finally at a place where I'm
pretty happy. And it's so it's

476
00:29:14,790 --> 00:29:17,070
it's dead. I mean, it's all
digital. So which is zero,

477
00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:21,690
there's no signal coming out.
0000 So it's not even haste if

478
00:29:21,690 --> 00:29:22,530
you're listening to it.

479
00:29:24,270 --> 00:29:30,720
Yeah, I missed the hiss. Really?
Well. I don't know. It says it's

480
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,430
like during the switchover from
vinyl to CD. You know, all that

481
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:38,280
really changed. I mean, the
fidelity actually went up even

482
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,860
though it got screechie because
of some filtering issues that

483
00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:44,970
were a problem it turned out and
then the hiss was all gone and

484
00:29:44,970 --> 00:29:48,030
the hiss was actually the
problem with vinyl it was if you

485
00:29:48,030 --> 00:29:50,700
played us virgin record this
never been played before. Yeah,

486
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:52,860
it was minimal but then after
you played it and played it and

487
00:29:52,860 --> 00:30:01,500
played it, it was all hiss and
sentimental. Well The point is,

488
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:04,650
is that we've chosen and people
every once awhile, you should do

489
00:30:04,650 --> 00:30:05,370
video

490
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,780
with that exact voice.

491
00:30:07,379 --> 00:30:13,019
Pretty much. You could hear it
in an email. And we've decided

492
00:30:13,019 --> 00:30:15,959
we're never going to do it. And
there's things people will

493
00:30:15,989 --> 00:30:19,319
reiterate this for the listeners
and maybe only been listening

494
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:22,409
for a year. Let's say, we don't
do video are never going to do

495
00:30:22,409 --> 00:30:26,039
video. There's no reason to do
video, this is much better

496
00:30:26,069 --> 00:30:30,149
format for what we're trying to
do get people to listen, without

497
00:30:30,179 --> 00:30:34,889
looking at some video image,
which is distracting in itself.

498
00:30:34,889 --> 00:30:38,159
And what's the point? You have
two guys with? Generally

499
00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:41,219
speaking, if you look at these
video podcasts, there's two

500
00:30:41,219 --> 00:30:45,839
guys, many distractive looking
you know, like some bug eyed

501
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:48,749
women, you know, that bug guide,
and they're looking at the

502
00:30:48,749 --> 00:30:51,389
thing. hell's wrong with her?
It's right, you're thinking

503
00:30:51,389 --> 00:30:55,109
instead of listening to
headphones on big cans, giant

504
00:30:55,109 --> 00:30:59,339
cans and a big ol mic covering
your whole face. It's like, wow,

505
00:30:59,339 --> 00:31:03,089
this is not entertainment. Yeah,
if you're going to do video,

506
00:31:03,089 --> 00:31:08,129
I've actually said this on Leo's
show. And Leo's dropped, dropped

507
00:31:08,129 --> 00:31:10,379
the cans, that's for sure. But
he still wears those little

508
00:31:10,379 --> 00:31:14,009
buds. And he even though he
started to he tried to go free

509
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,619
free form for a while without
the buds I think because I think

510
00:31:16,619 --> 00:31:19,949
he wasn't wearing him a few
times, but but he still wears

511
00:31:19,949 --> 00:31:22,769
them. Everybody used to wear
cans, I got everyone off that

512
00:31:22,769 --> 00:31:25,739
because I think free form is the
way to do it. You don't need to

513
00:31:25,769 --> 00:31:29,219
be monitoring you don't. The
only reason you do that is if

514
00:31:29,219 --> 00:31:31,889
you in the olden days, you can
really make your voice sound

515
00:31:31,889 --> 00:31:33,059
really good by doing

516
00:31:33,090 --> 00:31:38,400
well, thank you, I have to
monitor everything because and

517
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,030
some of this went wrong early, I
feel it went wrong with podcast.

518
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,410
Because of the lack of
technology. For real time.

519
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:50,100
Recording and producing, the
only way you could really do

520
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,430
that is to buy a bunch of band
gear is what I'll call it,

521
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,170
there's still not really a
setup. Certainly not an analog

522
00:31:58,170 --> 00:32:01,170
setup, that is meant
specifically for the way

523
00:32:01,170 --> 00:32:05,520
podcasts are produced. Then you
need processing on the voice,

524
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:11,250
which has compressor limiters do
some EQ, you need your mix minus

525
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,830
like a fullback. If you're using
Skype, you need an end signal

526
00:32:17,820 --> 00:32:21,810
processing, which again for me
is another compressor limiter to

527
00:32:21,810 --> 00:32:26,490
create of nice flow fluid sound
because that's how it's done. If

528
00:32:26,490 --> 00:32:31,650
you listen to radio, that's how
it's done. But never no one

529
00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:34,620
really ever created the right
gear. And I really didn't pay

530
00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:38,100
attention to it, I always wanted
to have it in the laptop be as

531
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:41,550
small as possible, gave up on
that eventually, and just went

532
00:32:41,610 --> 00:32:44,400
screw it here's got my big
outboard gear which of course

533
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,750
became problematic we're going
on the road. But because of that

534
00:32:48,750 --> 00:32:53,790
people would just record in
GarageBand or Audacity or

535
00:32:53,790 --> 00:32:58,110
whatever, and then do everything
after the fact. And that's it

536
00:32:58,140 --> 00:33:01,590
you can't A is you're not create
here is not a great way to

537
00:33:01,590 --> 00:33:05,940
create a product. And this way,
all the mixes, everything is

538
00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:09,000
done in real time. Which is what
I've learned to do since I was

539
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,810
14.

540
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:13,170
And we don't have to edit,
right, you don't want to edit.

541
00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:16,200
And you don't you have to do all
because people are doing it.

542
00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:18,870
It's horrible. Well, even

543
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:22,170
in video, it's better if you
don't add. I mean, the reason

544
00:33:22,170 --> 00:33:27,210
these some of this gear was
created is for like the

545
00:33:27,270 --> 00:33:30,330
Tricaster. And these things.
They're all done in real time.

546
00:33:30,330 --> 00:33:32,310
Yes, correct. Yeah, you want to
do in real time you get

547
00:33:32,370 --> 00:33:35,430
everything set up in advance.
You roll the credits, you do all

548
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:37,590
this stuff in real time. And
then when the show is done, it's

549
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:41,160
done. It's done. It's just ready
to ship out. You don't have to

550
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,070
go, which send it to an edit.
Remember,

551
00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:49,530
our data show and someone say we
got to send it to post to fix

552
00:33:49,530 --> 00:33:53,460
this or that people would groan
like really? We got to go to

553
00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:59,100
post with this. Yeah, it's
tedious. But I think it's also

554
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:03,780
you do a poster which I just
never could figure out why

555
00:34:04,530 --> 00:34:07,350
you just don't get a good
product and I think the only

556
00:34:07,380 --> 00:34:10,950
true only way to do it is to do
it live have someone has to have

557
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:13,590
headphones on and whichever good
reference headphones to be able

558
00:34:13,590 --> 00:34:16,230
to hear what is going to be
Yeah, no show right your

559
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:18,990
headphones. Because this is the
way people are going to listen

560
00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:21,540
to it is on headphones or if you
don't

561
00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:24,030
yeah, there's stuff coming
through your headphones that you

562
00:34:24,780 --> 00:34:27,960
can't be playing in the studio.
Anyway, you get all the sound

563
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,840
effects, you get the sound
effects. But anyway, I always

564
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,380
tell people we're never going to
do a video because it's it's

565
00:34:34,380 --> 00:34:37,320
just dumb. I think it's dumb,
dumb.

566
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:39,689
We're not going to do it
together.

567
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,350
Just you know you're producing
the news and here's bill and you

568
00:34:43,350 --> 00:34:48,510
know Cairo and he said he's got
to play some video that he he's

569
00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:52,710
produced over the last few days
and you're just inserted Yeah,

570
00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:54,750
okay, that's but that's not what
these guys are doing. They just

571
00:34:54,750 --> 00:34:56,910
put a couple of some cans on
their head big microphone in

572
00:34:56,910 --> 00:35:00,930
front of their face. And it was
lousy camera. You know, and

573
00:35:00,930 --> 00:35:05,010
they're in their bedroom. It's
just it's like, come on, this is

574
00:35:05,010 --> 00:35:08,850
dumb. So, but people oh, you
should do that you can do this.

575
00:35:08,850 --> 00:35:13,320
You can add bullcrap. The other
thing is we don't have guests.

576
00:35:14,130 --> 00:35:18,270
And I can I have a rant I give
the rant on the show, I give the

577
00:35:18,270 --> 00:35:20,730
rant. And if people ask me on
the street, at the grocery

578
00:35:20,730 --> 00:35:24,330
store, anywhere, I will give the
rant. We don't have guests,

579
00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:26,160
we're never going to have
guests. There's no reason to

580
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,990
have guests. If we have a clip
of someone, you know that we

581
00:35:30,990 --> 00:35:33,150
want to interview somebody on
the side, you've done this a

582
00:35:33,150 --> 00:35:36,630
couple of times, and pull a clip
from the interview that was

583
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:38,880
interesting, and then refer to
the interview that people go

584
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,400
listen to that. That's
different. It's not like that's

585
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:47,100
not a guest. And in it, and
people keep saying to me, why

586
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:53,070
don't you do cranky geeks again.
And I always have to tell them

587
00:35:53,070 --> 00:35:56,670
that the problem with any of
these shows, and I think this,

588
00:35:57,330 --> 00:36:01,140
this happens, the Leo's
operation and other places, is

589
00:36:01,170 --> 00:36:06,690
booking guests is horrible. They
don't show up. They beg you to

590
00:36:06,690 --> 00:36:09,810
come on the show, but then they
can't do that date. In fact,

591
00:36:09,810 --> 00:36:13,680
they can never do Wednesday
turns out and then they're you

592
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,770
know, people are begging you to
come on they're duds people come

593
00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:19,290
on. They say nothing. They won't
say anything. They're gonna

594
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,370
complete duds. It just and it's
a nightmare. It's typically

595
00:36:23,370 --> 00:36:26,520
not entertaining, the way that
is solved in mainstream of

596
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,290
everything from Wolf Blitzer to
the Tonight Show is the pre

597
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:34,830
interview than the pre interview
was a producer who sits down

598
00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:37,710
with you, it starts on the phone
first. With the Booker, they're

599
00:36:37,710 --> 00:36:40,350
going to find out and you can
pretty much tell immediately

600
00:36:40,350 --> 00:36:43,050
what they really want you to
talk about, because they'll kind

601
00:36:43,050 --> 00:36:44,280
of force that issue.

602
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,390
Well, actually, I've worked with
the a lot of these operations,

603
00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:53,550
and I will. I'm used to this,
and you're right is the booker

604
00:36:53,550 --> 00:36:56,610
who calls first and they go can
you do Thursday's Show? We're

605
00:36:56,610 --> 00:36:59,910
gonna be talking about this and
that. And I will say when I was

606
00:36:59,910 --> 00:37:03,510
doing a lot of CNBC stuff I was
I will say, What side do you

607
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:04,170
want me to say?

608
00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:09,570
And they'll tell you, yes. Yeah.
Want you to be against it? Yeah.

609
00:37:09,570 --> 00:37:09,750
Can

610
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:14,460
you be against it? Yeah.
creating, creating controversy I

611
00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:18,840
have. So people don't think I'm
just a wishy washy, you know,

612
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:23,400
chameleon, you fly, you slipped
off. I've often said, No, I

613
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,510
can't do that. I can't take that
site, because that site is so

614
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:32,760
wrong. I can't do it. And
there's Oh, okay. And now either

615
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,520
will bump me they'll drop it
completely, because they already

616
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,640
have somebody who wants to be
the pro side and go find

617
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,950
somebody else. They'll do that.
That has happened a number of

618
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:41,760
times. And if you're

619
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,840
watching or listening to any
type of interview, you can often

620
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:51,000
hear the interviewer or the host
prompting the guest about a

621
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,840
question that was the pre
interview or told the host for

622
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,780
the interviewer. This is a funny
story, or this is the one you

623
00:37:57,780 --> 00:38:00,450
want to hit. You want to talk
about this. And then you'll hear

624
00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:03,810
someone say, Yeah, talk about
that trip you made. Yeah, like

625
00:38:03,810 --> 00:38:06,330
they talked about it before. And
of course it never comes out

626
00:38:06,330 --> 00:38:11,310
fresh which is mind blowing,
iterate, we people sometimes

627
00:38:11,310 --> 00:38:13,950
don't still don't believe it
when I say is we do not talk

628
00:38:14,610 --> 00:38:18,540
outside of the show. Right?
Yeah, we always do Portsmouth

629
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:22,590
Portland. So why don't we do a
post mortem of the show? So

630
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:25,590
we'll say because we have stuff
to do we have art to choose we

631
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:28,770
have a title to come up with. We
have to check credits. And we

632
00:38:28,770 --> 00:38:31,080
talk about crap, but very

633
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:33,600
commercially, gossip totally

634
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:39,030
gossip. Yeah, just gossip. And
we don't no one knows what we're

635
00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:41,280
coming up. I didn't like this
show. I have no idea what your

636
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,590
clips are. It's I'm also I want
to hear you get to it. I'm not

637
00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:49,500
interested in knowing
everything. Which I think is

638
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,990
well I will tell another boring
anecdote about my life. When I

639
00:38:54,990 --> 00:38:58,920
had to know that my big telecom
book which is a huge book that

640
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,440
so like it was an instant
bestseller it was an instant

641
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,970
bestseller. When I got it they
put me on a radio book tour.

642
00:39:06,810 --> 00:39:11,040
Mostly radio station I did some
TV too but not not much. Mostly

643
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,950
radio. And so I went from radio
to and I learned a lot I you

644
00:39:13,950 --> 00:39:16,350
know, and I knew enough about
radio and I'd been doing it on

645
00:39:16,350 --> 00:39:20,100
and off. But I didn't realize I
learned a lot this time because

646
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:23,610
I went from station to station
to station and never fully

647
00:39:23,610 --> 00:39:28,650
comprehended how variant these
places are right? There are no

648
00:39:28,650 --> 00:39:31,680
two rigs the same everybody's
got different mics, different

649
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,220
setups, different size studios,
different gear in the in the

650
00:39:35,220 --> 00:39:38,430
control room, different ways of
doing it. And it was just

651
00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:41,070
everything combined. And that's
when I when I was doing this by

652
00:39:41,070 --> 00:39:44,700
the way, that's when I decided
to work on going freeform which

653
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:51,990
is no no headphones at all. And
just try to work the mic from

654
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:55,230
experience because of a show I
did in Vancouver, Canada was at

655
00:39:55,230 --> 00:40:00,060
the bill good show. And he was a
talk show guy and he said Are

656
00:40:00,060 --> 00:40:02,280
you down and I'm looking around
for the headphones, because I've

657
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,490
been using them all along. So I
could modulate my voice a little

658
00:40:05,490 --> 00:40:09,570
bit now. And there was none. And
I looked Bill didn't have any

659
00:40:09,570 --> 00:40:13,080
on. And he was just as good to
Mike was there and he was there.

660
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,140
And I was there. And we did the
show. And it was fine. And I

661
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,720
thought that was a kind of a
freedom thing. And without

662
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:24,300
being, you know, just without
being tied down to this stuff on

663
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:27,810
your ears. And when do which
turns out by the way to be bad

664
00:40:27,810 --> 00:40:32,250
for your ears, or my headphones?
Yeah, hell yeah. And those

665
00:40:32,250 --> 00:40:33,450
little buds are worse.

666
00:40:33,930 --> 00:40:36,180
So here's an experiment, it's
something I want to do, you

667
00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:39,990
won't be able to notice much of
this, because the reason we

668
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:44,850
started with noise gates, was
because you didn't wear

669
00:40:44,850 --> 00:40:48,540
headphones, and I would hear my
voice coming back, even though

670
00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:51,960
it was soft, it would come back
through the microphone. And when

671
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,750
you have a noise gate, you can
set a level, then you have to

672
00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:57,390
really be modulating loudly
enough. So that stuff will just

673
00:40:57,390 --> 00:40:59,790
not come through. So I'm turning
off the noise gates for a moment

674
00:40:59,790 --> 00:41:04,470
here. And so now I hear all
kinds of hiss.

675
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,620
While you hear the background,
my studio is noisy, and here's

676
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:12,060
the reason. So it's mine, I have
a computer that has a fan, I can

677
00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:15,360
hear it. And the fang starts up
about halfway through the

678
00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:19,530
podcast, because it cannot start
to warm up. I have a giant

679
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:26,880
window, a big window overlooking
the San Francisco Bay, that is

680
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,390
double insulated, but it is
still noise coming through and

681
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:31,920
you can maybe hear the train
siren,

682
00:41:32,130 --> 00:41:34,590
you can hear me actually
breathing. And you can hear me

683
00:41:34,590 --> 00:41:37,170
smacking because I'm chomping on
a licorice because I have a

684
00:41:37,170 --> 00:41:38,490
little tickle in my throat.

685
00:41:38,759 --> 00:41:42,029
And I can also occasionally I do
like to open the window because

686
00:41:42,029 --> 00:41:44,519
it gets hot in here. Because
we're in California, we don't

687
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:48,629
have air conditioning, we should
just make more noise. And that

688
00:41:48,629 --> 00:41:49,439
would come through,

689
00:41:49,950 --> 00:41:52,410
you know, I bet you people are
gonna say I liked it a lot

690
00:41:52,410 --> 00:41:54,240
better with that noise gate,
leave that off.

691
00:41:55,049 --> 00:41:57,359
Well, it has more atmosphere.
Now that's another thing to

692
00:41:57,359 --> 00:42:01,319
consider that when we talk about
this, and this is like maybe a

693
00:42:01,319 --> 00:42:04,709
little too inside baseball for a
lot of people. But there's

694
00:42:04,739 --> 00:42:08,969
certain kinds of sounds that
different people enjoy. Now Adam

695
00:42:08,969 --> 00:42:15,179
is the engineer of this podcast,
he is responsible for the sound

696
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,819
in quotes of the show, because
he uses all kinds of fancy

697
00:42:20,819 --> 00:42:25,319
filters and gear and then preamp
software versions of preamps

698
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:28,499
like the NIV and all these other
things that makes this very

699
00:42:28,499 --> 00:42:33,899
distinctive sounding podcast.
NPR has a very interesting sound

700
00:42:33,899 --> 00:42:39,389
that is and on NPR, you had to
produce a dead sound, which is a

701
00:42:40,139 --> 00:42:44,519
generally gotten through a
condenser mic in a dead room.

702
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:46,469
The room has no ambience at all

703
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:49,020
these are expensive rooms to
build. Yeah,

704
00:42:49,770 --> 00:42:52,410
I was always thinking I could do
what I could turn this into a

705
00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:55,920
room like that by putting panels
over the windows that are far

706
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,310
slanted, slanted, slanted. And
there's a lot of work involved

707
00:42:59,310 --> 00:43:04,950
and it makes it gives a dead
ambient free sound that is that

708
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:08,940
you can go from show to show to
show and they'll have the sound

709
00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:13,020
because they've all it's kind of
deemed as the NPR sound is the

710
00:43:13,020 --> 00:43:16,500
sound dead. I'd never liked that
sound. I always thought this

711
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:18,510
sounded a dead baby. Its
distinctive, it's very

712
00:43:18,510 --> 00:43:22,680
distinctive when it's really
dead. But it's the ambient more

713
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,600
natural sound to me is more
modern. Much like the modern

714
00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:31,890
announcers or announcing voice
or, or voices like ours, mine

715
00:43:31,890 --> 00:43:36,660
more than yours in this case.
It's not. It's not a trained

716
00:43:36,660 --> 00:43:39,660
voice. Right? So you don't have
a guy talking like this all the

717
00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:41,460
time. And Noel, Adam, what are
you doing now?

718
00:43:41,490 --> 00:43:43,860
Well, John, let me tell you
exactly what I'm doing right now

719
00:43:43,860 --> 00:43:45,540
as I puke into the microphone.

720
00:43:47,550 --> 00:43:52,230
And that, to me is a much more
modern sound. And now what would

721
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:55,950
Adams done is he's taken the the
modernists of that and then he's

722
00:43:55,950 --> 00:44:02,370
given it a kind of 50s 60s bigs
radio stations,

723
00:44:02,670 --> 00:44:03,720
a little grungy,

724
00:44:04,140 --> 00:44:07,140
grungy, slightly grungy,
actually very grungy,

725
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:09,630
but this is that is our sound
and that's the

726
00:44:09,630 --> 00:44:12,270
sound is the sound, it's
distinctive. It's almost like

727
00:44:12,270 --> 00:44:14,490
writing styles as noticeable

728
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,040
as like Phil, you know, Phil
Spector had his style, you know,

729
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,090
this is our style

730
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,700
podcast these cancers, it's not
as though there's not not a lot

731
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:26,280
of thought that goes into this.
There's in fact, a lot of

732
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,120
thought that goes just

733
00:44:27,150 --> 00:44:29,820
there's one other thing that I
need to mention about the

734
00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:32,970
processing, when you have clips
when you have jingles or when

735
00:44:32,970 --> 00:44:39,330
you have things that are various
levels and, and beyond just a

736
00:44:39,330 --> 00:44:43,320
sound by itself. When you have a
certainly a compressor, but the

737
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:47,370
combination compressor limiter,
you can make it more an overall

738
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:53,370
kind of equal sound even though
I can still ride everything. So

739
00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:58,170
I start the sleigh bells and I
can ride it down if I want but

740
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,080
you can talk over this and
you'll Be able to punch through

741
00:45:01,410 --> 00:45:03,600
just because of the way
everything is set up no matter

742
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,960
how loud I have it. So you're
never going to have a situation

743
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,020
where if something's really too
loud, blows people's eardrums

744
00:45:10,020 --> 00:45:13,110
out, which was a big complaint
in the beginning of podcasting,

745
00:45:13,770 --> 00:45:17,070
where people couldn't hear it,
or they'd be turn up the volume

746
00:45:17,070 --> 00:45:25,200
and then blow their eardrums
out. So, anyway, maybe enough

747
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,860
about this app.

748
00:45:26,850 --> 00:45:27,840
I think it is enough.

749
00:45:27,899 --> 00:45:30,059
I have one clip that I brought
one clip,

750
00:45:30,180 --> 00:45:32,400
well, then you better save it
because I got a bunch of clips

751
00:45:32,970 --> 00:45:36,810
are gonna save it, you're gonna
blow your clip. Okay. I'm gonna

752
00:45:36,810 --> 00:45:37,680
blow your clip. Now.

753
00:45:37,710 --> 00:45:40,440
I can I blow my clip on you?
Yep. It's a clip we've talked

754
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:50,850
about. Let me see when this clip
was created. This clip is okay,

755
00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:53,040
don't have this from 2010.

756
00:45:54,060 --> 00:45:55,980
Okay, we have a lot of clips in
2010.

757
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,710
And we've talked about this clip
many times. And we always say,

758
00:45:58,770 --> 00:46:00,930
you know, one of these days I'm
gonna dig that clip up and play

759
00:46:00,930 --> 00:46:02,700
it. Do you know clip I'm talking
about?

760
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:05,160
Is it the Feinstein clip? That's
the one what

761
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:10,320
is the likelihood of another
terrorist attempted attack on

762
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,550
the US homeland in the next
three to six months? high or

763
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:15,000
low?

764
00:46:15,330 --> 00:46:16,290
Director Blair?

765
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:22,920
An attempted attack the priority
is certain I would say I would

766
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:28,560
agree with Mr. Molar. Agree.
General Burgess. Yes, ma'am. I

767
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:28,950
agree.

768
00:46:29,310 --> 00:46:30,240
2010

769
00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:36,480
how's that coming in her head is
gone. attempted attack or attack

770
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,530
on the homeland?

771
00:46:38,070 --> 00:46:41,850
In the next six months? Everyone
agreed? Nobody is

772
00:46:41,850 --> 00:46:48,930
ever except us. Even mentioned
stuff like this?

773
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:52,890
Well, the conspiracy I've
changed over time.

774
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:54,900
Oh, yeah. I think God lives to
prove it.

775
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,910
So I'll tell you how I've
changed. The the conspiracy

776
00:46:59,910 --> 00:47:05,340
theorist is in me, which I still
have. This is a plot the they're

777
00:47:05,340 --> 00:47:09,180
all in it really. I have enough
knowledge of how it works and

778
00:47:09,180 --> 00:47:13,200
how certainly broadcast networks
and you know, things that happen

779
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,640
at the top and how policy is set
and how every people go along.

780
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:24,330
And we don't do that here. That
this is just this is just not

781
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:30,450
what they do. Which is not what
they do anymore. They don't

782
00:47:30,450 --> 00:47:36,270
care. They You mean they people
who work in broadcast networks

783
00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:38,970
and news. They don't care.
They're just trying to get the

784
00:47:38,970 --> 00:47:42,420
thing. blonder. The next thing
trying to get a job. It's a good

785
00:47:42,420 --> 00:47:44,010
yeah, it's a gig. It's a gig.

786
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,160
Yeah, it's a gig nicely. You
don't need to make waves you

787
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,620
don't need to do a lot. Now,
that doesn't mean that we're the

788
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:52,110
greatest thing in the world.
There's a couple of things. I

789
00:47:52,110 --> 00:47:57,600
just grabbed a few random clips
of stories that we never

790
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,870
followed up on. Okay, well, this
is just kind of like I don't

791
00:48:00,870 --> 00:48:04,980
even get to, oh my god, I forgot
all about that. And I couldn't,

792
00:48:04,980 --> 00:48:08,730
by the way, put together a 10
hour show of that. We do a lot I

793
00:48:08,730 --> 00:48:11,730
think it much better than
anybody else to trying to stay

794
00:48:11,730 --> 00:48:14,880
on the story until the story is
is expired,

795
00:48:14,910 --> 00:48:17,910
which usually happens when one
of us will say to the other

796
00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:20,970
Yeah, we're done. I'm pretty
tired. Oh,

797
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,610
we've said that and it was it
still comes out yesterday often,

798
00:48:23,790 --> 00:48:27,780
but this one played a merry
Kennedy gang clip. Remember

799
00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:28,590
this? Oh yeah.

800
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:32,910
Robert F. Kennedy Jr's estranged
wife Mary has been found dead at

801
00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:36,180
her home in New York State. The
cause of her death is unknown.

802
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:39,930
her former husband is the nephew
of President John F. Kennedy and

803
00:48:39,930 --> 00:48:42,090
son of Senator Robert F.
Kennedy, who were both

804
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,690
assassinated in the 1960s. Our
Washington correspondent

805
00:48:45,690 --> 00:48:49,290
Jonathan Blake explains what's
known about the death. Well,

806
00:48:49,290 --> 00:48:51,570
police in Bedford, New York,
which

807
00:48:51,570 --> 00:48:55,800
is a few hours drive north of
New York City have said that a

808
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,640
body was found at a home
belonging to Robert F. Kennedy

809
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,930
Jr. and his former wife, Mary,
earlier this afternoon. They

810
00:49:03,930 --> 00:49:07,710
have not confirmed reports that
it was Mary Kennedy and they

811
00:49:07,710 --> 00:49:12,480
have not confirmed or denied
reports that the body was found

812
00:49:12,510 --> 00:49:17,820
in an apparent suicide. And one
news organization, ABC News here

813
00:49:17,820 --> 00:49:20,730
in the United States reporting
that Mary Kennedy was found

814
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,450
hanged.

815
00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:28,049
And I recall that this we go
after a lot of murder slash

816
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:31,469
deaths slash suicides, because
it's interesting if someone of

817
00:49:31,469 --> 00:49:36,119
interest dies. The thing that
you rarely hear or I never

818
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:39,869
really in any mainstream because
of the the money involved, is

819
00:49:39,869 --> 00:49:43,019
the pharmaceuticals that are
involved in these types of

820
00:49:43,019 --> 00:49:47,369
cases, whatever, but I think she
was on like, Ambien or something

821
00:49:47,369 --> 00:49:52,649
like a combination of things. I
do recall us talking about that.

822
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,760
Yeah, it's just kind of died by
the vine on the vine. That in

823
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,120
the end, you know, eventually.
Now there's other stuff that We

824
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,780
used to do that. And we dropped
the ball. I don't know who

825
00:50:03,780 --> 00:50:05,790
dropped the ball, we just got
sick of it, or we didn't want to

826
00:50:05,790 --> 00:50:09,030
really go any further with it.
Or we just didn't want to take

827
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:12,060
advantage of it. We've lost a
lot of clips that are were

828
00:50:12,060 --> 00:50:15,480
always hilarious to begin with,
and then they never get played

829
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:21,120
again. And so I run into this
one is an oldie but a goodie

830
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,890
played this clip. It's Obama
ignorant. There are white folks,

831
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:31,560
and then they're ignorant
motherfuckers like you? Yeah,

832
00:50:32,070 --> 00:50:36,870
exactly. I mean, come on. And
classic. We played that a lot.

833
00:50:38,460 --> 00:50:42,480
Man. No, there's one of those
clips that you could add to the

834
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,820
end of a clip if you wanted to
produce it a little bit.

835
00:50:45,210 --> 00:50:48,270
Yeah, we should also rarely do
pre production. Very rarely do

836
00:50:48,270 --> 00:50:51,240
we do pre pre production, and
then a lot of our stuff. And

837
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:55,860
this is maybe a moment to talk
about. The producers, which we

838
00:50:55,860 --> 00:50:59,010
early on, we started calling our
listeners producers, as we

839
00:50:59,010 --> 00:51:01,380
noticed that really they were
kind of producing

840
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,230
they were and I think a lot of
people don't realize that that's

841
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:05,760
probably true for all shows.

842
00:51:06,660 --> 00:51:11,190
Well, the catch is you were the
trick is you have to be able to

843
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:15,570
manage the information that is
incoming. That's sometimes very

844
00:51:15,570 --> 00:51:16,410
difficult.

845
00:51:16,590 --> 00:51:19,410
Yeah, because you get a lot of
bad information. We've had a

846
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:24,660
couple of plants I would call
them that came in and gave us

847
00:51:24,660 --> 00:51:31,020
bad, bad dope. And I kind of
fell for it for a while we tend

848
00:51:31,020 --> 00:51:34,320
to it tends to fall out
eventually. And then we could we

849
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,410
have good sense, I think the two
of us, which is I think a huge

850
00:51:37,410 --> 00:51:42,630
part of the show. The two of us
have good common sense. When to

851
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:45,180
believe something and not to
believe it's a news for nose,

852
00:51:45,570 --> 00:51:48,840
nose for news. News for nose,
I've come

853
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,830
a long way. I've come a long way
towards really being rational.

854
00:51:54,510 --> 00:51:57,690
And I hear people say this a
lot. Then, you know, John has

855
00:51:57,690 --> 00:52:00,870
moved towards your side, you've
moved towards John side. I guess

856
00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:04,020
crackpot buzzkill is that the
kind of the dichotomy we never

857
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:07,830
really intended to be
controversial all the times it's

858
00:52:07,830 --> 00:52:11,640
not crossed talk or counterpoint
or whatever it's called. No, it

859
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,300
wasn't the idea of red, blue
Republican Democrat. And it was

860
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:18,540
two guys presenting, you know,
to each other to each other.

861
00:52:18,750 --> 00:52:22,110
Yeah, here. Here you go. What do
you think of this? Oh, that's a

862
00:52:22,110 --> 00:52:24,510
good conversation. Yeah. What do
you think it is? Oh, that's

863
00:52:24,510 --> 00:52:27,750
interesting. But did you notice
it was this? Oh, oh, yeah. No, I

864
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:30,660
didn't notice that. I noticed
that. And back in for something

865
00:52:30,660 --> 00:52:33,960
new often we because we're on
the news cycle, and it's a new

866
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:39,390
show. Even though we never
talked about the news. We tend

867
00:52:39,390 --> 00:52:43,680
to hit a lot on the same thing.
Sometimes knowing the other guy

868
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,250
have you comment on this more
than I do? Oh, I knew you were

869
00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:50,880
gonna get that. I saw that on
there. But I figured Johnny go

870
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,410
get the clips. Because we kind
of know what our common

871
00:52:55,410 --> 00:52:58,680
interests are and what one
person likes more than I will do

872
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,190
the beauty shows. Yeah.

873
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:06,300
Did you did you do a lot more
than just the beauty shows? But

874
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:07,680
yeah, do the

875
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:13,110
beauty shows and occasionally
some things that are there's

876
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:19,050
what I would call the kind of
dead money material like a

877
00:53:19,470 --> 00:53:24,300
certain Obama speeches, I might
actually pick up and start

878
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:28,800
recording segments of it with
you thing, and then I'm going to

879
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,470
do that. And then I'm thinking
well, he's going to expect me to

880
00:53:31,470 --> 00:53:35,760
do that and I'll do it. But if I
don't do it, it won't be any

881
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,150
loss to the show. Right?
Generally speaking, whatever

882
00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:45,960
either one of us does, rarely is
it semi it's the show itself is

883
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,590
a whole pile of stuff that makes
the show good. Not a single item

884
00:53:49,590 --> 00:53:53,280
although there's usually at
least two items in each show

885
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,420
that are rather revolutionary.
Yeah, and I've learned

886
00:53:58,260 --> 00:54:01,860
well, it's funny because well
maybe I'd like to hear your

887
00:54:01,860 --> 00:54:04,380
process I really don't know your
process of the how you prepare

888
00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:07,350
for the show. Maybe it's I don't
actually I have no idea I mean,

889
00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:10,620
do you take notes do you write
stuff down and I

890
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:16,800
I've changed I used to write a
lot down as to make prepared

891
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,600
commentary on annoyances
generally see some of them just

892
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,480
like my I would be taking but
the notes always would end up me

893
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,860
complaining about and I'll do it
now. You go to the line and

894
00:54:28,860 --> 00:54:32,370
there's a woman with all their
bags is dirty old bags from

895
00:54:32,370 --> 00:54:35,100
Trader Joe's and she's hanging
everything up because she won't

896
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:38,910
pay 10 cents for a paper bag
which is a scam by the way bags

897
00:54:38,910 --> 00:54:42,060
used to be free that you know
that 10 cents goes it goes right

898
00:54:42,060 --> 00:54:46,560
to the store. It doesn't go to
any fund. So it's bullcrap. You

899
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,990
can't have plastic bags, you
can't do this and and you have

900
00:54:48,990 --> 00:54:54,240
this these people that are
they're not even as old as they

901
00:54:54,240 --> 00:55:00,630
act in the lines moving slow and
taking up a lot of time. I'm in

902
00:55:00,630 --> 00:55:03,840
bandwidth and everything in
between was a dig for a penny or

903
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,960
they are they can't, or they
don't most credit card machine.

904
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:13,020
Here's, I'm sorry, I'm going off
this tangent, you can slide the

905
00:55:13,020 --> 00:55:17,850
card. Once the first transaction
is put in the cash register. It

906
00:55:17,850 --> 00:55:20,550
says please slide card eight and
read it says slight slight

907
00:55:20,550 --> 00:55:20,970
cardio

908
00:55:20,970 --> 00:55:23,550
you can do it while before
they're done by the card, you

909
00:55:23,550 --> 00:55:23,820
punch

910
00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:26,310
in all the numbers you put in
everything you need to put in,

911
00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:29,760
and then it's ready to go. So
when she was she, he whoever it

912
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,330
is, rings up the last thing on
the item and push the button,

913
00:55:33,390 --> 00:55:37,500
you just you're done. But no, I
You see somebody standing there

914
00:55:37,530 --> 00:55:41,340
gape Giada, looking at them
running through the groceries

915
00:55:41,340 --> 00:55:44,850
and they pay the everything's
out. And then they stand for

916
00:55:44,850 --> 00:55:49,170
another 10 seconds in awe of the
whole process. And then they put

917
00:55:49,170 --> 00:55:52,890
their card in. And you have to
wait, dude, and then they will

918
00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:55,320
get it in, right? And then they
can't see there's always the

919
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,140
blind person. They've got their
glasses, and they're looking in

920
00:55:58,140 --> 00:56:00,150
there up in the down with the
glasses up and down, up and

921
00:56:00,150 --> 00:56:02,970
down. And then they slide again.
No, no, no, sir. Just slide

922
00:56:02,970 --> 00:56:05,880
once. And they sliding and
sliding and glasses up and down

923
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,810
and then it pushing, and then
they push the wrong thing. It's

924
00:56:09,810 --> 00:56:14,610
unbelievable. Okay, and so how
do you make the writing notes on

925
00:56:14,610 --> 00:56:17,760
this? Okay, so I stopped writing
notes. What I pay now

926
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,850
paper paper notes. They keep a
notebook with me.

927
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,240
And I would do this while
watching TV. Oh, this is

928
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:26,760
idiotic. And I'd write something
down this, you know, I gave up

929
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,850
on that. I tried to keep the
show on my side of the show to

930
00:56:29,850 --> 00:56:38,160
be even more performance. ad
lib. Improv as it were than

931
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,570
ever. And what I do is I watch,
if I don't have enough clips

932
00:56:42,570 --> 00:56:46,350
that I will get a clip of me
immediately if I see something

933
00:56:46,350 --> 00:56:50,310
interesting. Which just you do,
how would you do? How can I use

934
00:56:50,310 --> 00:56:56,850
a recorder, I use hardware. I
have a DVR was to do a two step

935
00:56:56,850 --> 00:57:00,660
process. I have a DVR. I'm
watching some television of some

936
00:57:00,660 --> 00:57:03,540
sort. And I see something that I
want to I think is a cool clip.

937
00:57:03,690 --> 00:57:06,690
So I backup the DVR hit the
record button, record that

938
00:57:06,690 --> 00:57:10,680
segment turn it off. And I keep
these like clips on the on the

939
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:15,000
DVR. And then on the night
before the show. And you had to

940
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,050
do this early to the show.
Because other otherwise like

941
00:57:19,050 --> 00:57:21,450
this pilot clips I sent today, I
don't know what to have these

942
00:57:21,450 --> 00:57:25,680
clips I can't remember. Right.
So you what do you what I do is

943
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,490
the night before the show, I go
through all those pre clips and

944
00:57:29,490 --> 00:57:34,530
put them on a on an h2 i There's
a I have a jacket in the back of

945
00:57:34,530 --> 00:57:37,950
the DVR goes right into a real
digital recorder. And I record

946
00:57:37,950 --> 00:57:39,450
those pieces of that as

947
00:57:39,450 --> 00:57:41,370
an audio to digital or digital
digital.

948
00:57:42,570 --> 00:57:46,500
It's it's audio analog to analog
to analog to analog analog to

949
00:57:47,370 --> 00:57:52,500
analog to digital. Once that
goes out analog against just an

950
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:56,640
analog process mostly. And then
I record them all that night.

951
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,120
And then in the morning, I get
up two hours before the show and

952
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:05,400
I go through the clips in
Audacity and edit them down. And

953
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,760
then name them and save them
because now it's immediate

954
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,210
because I know because I have a
lot of clips, say 15 clips. If I

955
00:58:12,210 --> 00:58:16,290
had done this like a week ago,
the name of the clip I will know

956
00:58:16,290 --> 00:58:19,680
what that clips about. Right?
Right. Because it's impossible

957
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,290
to you know, that's why a lot of
the clips are very long names.

958
00:58:22,290 --> 00:58:24,390
So I say I'm not going to
remember what those of us are.

959
00:58:24,540 --> 00:58:27,480
So I try to keep it immediate.
So the show when we do the show

960
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:32,340
again, like the we were talking
about pre interviews, the

961
00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:34,800
fresher things are I think the
audience likes it better. So I

962
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,140
try to keep it as fresh as
possible by moving everything

963
00:58:37,140 --> 00:58:40,950
right toward the show and do
everything on my last minute

964
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:45,840
basis. Which is I'm natural to
as you know. I'm an LIFO LIFO

965
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,460
I'm a LIFO guy last minute
Charlie works for me. And it

966
00:58:50,460 --> 00:58:52,020
also stays fresh. I'm Sam,

967
00:58:52,170 --> 00:58:54,960
I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with
the term last minute, Charlie.

968
00:58:55,140 --> 00:58:55,620
Yeah. Last

969
00:58:55,620 --> 00:59:00,240
minute. Charles used to call me
I have no life. Oh, there you

970
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,930
go. Last minute, Charlie,
talking about going around doing

971
00:59:03,930 --> 00:59:06,330
write that down. Even

972
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,430
when we, when I was talking
about taking the radio book

973
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:15,240
tour, there were people that did
pre interviews and there were

974
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,170
people that didn't the fresher
shows all didn't I worked Larry,

975
00:59:19,410 --> 00:59:22,710
Larry King showed what he's
doing radio three, three or four

976
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:26,250
times. And he refused to talk to
anybody before the show. And he

977
00:59:26,250 --> 00:59:28,920
didn't want any pre interviews.
He felt that the audience

978
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,770
doesn't pre interviewing you Why
should he? And if he can't get

979
00:59:31,770 --> 00:59:36,480
you to talk then you know he's
not doing his job. Which is my I

980
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,060
feel exactly the same way about
it because I noticed that when I

981
00:59:39,060 --> 00:59:42,870
did the pre interviews with a
number of these hot shots that

982
00:59:42,990 --> 00:59:46,290
you know somebody pre
interviewing, I never does

983
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,170
subjects when they came up. i
You don't know if you said it or

984
00:59:49,170 --> 00:59:52,800
not. I think I talked about that
already, didn't I? And so it'd

985
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,700
be I thought it was terrible
idea. And I've always think

986
00:59:56,730 --> 00:59:59,250
that's where I think Craig
Ferguson on The Late Late Night

987
00:59:59,250 --> 01:00:02,490
Show that he Does and he takes
the blue cards and tears them

988
01:00:02,490 --> 01:00:05,130
up. Right at the beginning of
every interview, he doesn't look

989
01:00:05,130 --> 01:00:07,830
at the cards, of which I think
they're just props. Now, this

990
01:00:07,830 --> 01:00:11,610
is definitely something that we
agreed on early on is, which I

991
01:00:11,610 --> 01:00:15,150
think is really why we don't
talk to each other. Because

992
01:00:15,150 --> 01:00:18,630
we're all we know unless it just
gossip about one topic that we

993
01:00:18,660 --> 01:00:22,770
that we stick on for sometimes
months or years. Just as like an

994
01:00:22,830 --> 01:00:25,440
our own continuing soap opera,
whatever it happened is just

995
01:00:25,470 --> 01:00:30,810
nothing important to to the
audience for the show. If we

996
01:00:30,810 --> 01:00:33,720
talk about anything else, it
will not come up in the show.

997
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:37,470
It's like what we've done
dinner, even the newsletter,

998
01:00:37,530 --> 01:00:40,680
once you the stuff you write in
the newsletter, I you know, you

999
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,690
write the newsletter, you send
it to me, I say, Oh, how about

1000
01:00:42,690 --> 01:00:48,150
this? Usually I say which I know
you hate good to go. West or Q?

1001
01:00:48,690 --> 01:00:50,790
That's a little they didn't read
it?

1002
01:00:51,060 --> 01:00:55,440
No, I read it very carefully.
Every single one. But then yeah,

1003
01:00:55,470 --> 01:00:58,050
they've read it and then goes
out. And when it comes in, I

1004
01:00:58,050 --> 01:01:00,330
read it again because I want to
see what pictures you put in.

1005
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,000
And then we never talk about
rarely talk about what was in

1006
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,970
the newsletter because we talked
about it or it's been discussed

1007
01:01:05,970 --> 01:01:08,460
or it was on the radar. I don't
know. It's very strange. It's

1008
01:01:08,460 --> 01:01:11,100
sometimes it comes up sometimes,
but not often.

1009
01:01:11,130 --> 01:01:14,820
And the newsletters pretty
standalone. And there's a couple

1010
01:01:14,820 --> 01:01:17,700
items in there. There we go.
I'll maybe say we're going to

1011
01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:21,180
talk about something and then
it'll just vague and that's

1012
01:01:21,180 --> 01:01:24,120
okay. But ya know, that's one of
the problems that I think a lot

1013
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,030
of people have when they over
rehearse, it's over rehearsing

1014
01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:30,330
and we're not putting on a play.
I mean, there's it seems to me

1015
01:01:30,330 --> 01:01:32,760
that it's just acting at the
point where you do a lot of pre

1016
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,400
interviews. Okay, here's what
you can target. That's a lot of

1017
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,760
reality TV is produced this way.
Here's what you're going to do.

1018
01:01:38,790 --> 01:01:42,450
They tell you what to do. And
then you post the ad lib.

1019
01:01:42,510 --> 01:01:48,090
All reality TV is not. Here's
how it works. Could you come in

1020
01:01:48,090 --> 01:01:51,960
the door again? Could you just
do that one more time? Do that

1021
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,650
walk again. So there that's your
reality TV?

1022
01:01:56,670 --> 01:02:03,870
Yeah. Yeah, it was the Burnett,
the guy who perfected it was

1023
01:02:03,870 --> 01:02:07,890
survivor, he said, and he did a
lot of other shows. He said he

1024
01:02:07,890 --> 01:02:10,770
never liked the name reality TV
because it's not real. He says

1025
01:02:10,770 --> 01:02:17,820
it's properly should be called
unscripted. Drama. Exactly. And

1026
01:02:18,270 --> 01:02:20,940
when he said and I realized what
it was really all about

1027
01:02:21,180 --> 01:02:26,760
unscripted drama, cheap actors
that don't get any money, no

1028
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:32,520
writers. That guy Perfect.
Perfect. Yeah, unscripted drama.

1029
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,080
In other words, I get all the
money.

1030
01:02:34,110 --> 01:02:36,780
Before we move into into that I
want to stick with the process

1031
01:02:36,780 --> 01:02:42,300
for a moment. What you don't
seem to do or do you don't

1032
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:46,020
really seem to save stories or
webpages that you want to

1033
01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:51,180
discuss? Or don't really recall,
you bring that up very much.

1034
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,390
Sometimes you'll send me a link,
but that's very rare.

1035
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,140
Yeah, this is true.

1036
01:02:59,820 --> 01:03:02,010
Which is pretty much the
opposite of what I do.

1037
01:03:02,310 --> 01:03:06,660
Yeah. What do you do? I don't
know what you do. I know you're

1038
01:03:06,660 --> 01:03:09,330
not doing what I do. That's for
sure. There's no chance? No, not

1039
01:03:09,330 --> 01:03:10,680
at all? I wouldn't think so.

1040
01:03:11,310 --> 01:03:14,340
Well, I'll tell you how I do it
now. Because over the course of

1041
01:03:14,340 --> 01:03:19,410
four years, a system has been
built that, that I use Dave

1042
01:03:19,410 --> 01:03:22,740
Jones, and I will Dave Jones at
all the programming, and he has

1043
01:03:22,740 --> 01:03:26,610
a job. Just over the course of
four years, we perfected it

1044
01:03:26,610 --> 01:03:29,460
called the Freedom controller,
which is a name that I always

1045
01:03:29,460 --> 01:03:33,240
liked. And it was some product I
had 15 years ago and the domain

1046
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,950
name came free again, after I
think the IRS had it or

1047
01:03:37,950 --> 01:03:40,680
something, I have no idea what
happened. I've always liked the

1048
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:46,830
name, but it is a system that
has an RSS aggregator that's,

1049
01:03:46,860 --> 01:03:50,850
that's a big part of it a really
good aggregator that has

1050
01:03:50,850 --> 01:03:57,030
functionality to immediately tag
and save a story from the

1051
01:03:57,030 --> 01:04:04,230
aggregator itself and save it in
a in a, an outline format,

1052
01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:09,000
actually the OPML format without
all the crap. So it's kind of

1053
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,360
like, what's the plugin for
browsers, what was that called?

1054
01:04:12,420 --> 01:04:16,890
Read readability or something
was called. Yeah, something like

1055
01:04:16,890 --> 01:04:21,360
that. But it's our own version.
And because it's stored in, in

1056
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:27,060
a, in an XML format, you can do
all kinds of thing with it,

1057
01:04:27,090 --> 01:04:30,810
things with it, like search, but
you can also collapse it into

1058
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,170
just a title of the story and
move it around and an outline if

1059
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:37,440
if anyone's use an outline, or
you should look into it. It's a

1060
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,860
very interesting way to manage
information. And I'm really bad

1061
01:04:41,220 --> 01:04:43,860
at writing. My handwriting is
horrible. I can't read what I've

1062
01:04:43,860 --> 01:04:46,890
tried it. I've tried carrying
notebooks I lose the papers. It

1063
01:04:46,890 --> 01:04:50,400
sucks. It's just no good. And
this forces me into into a

1064
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,420
format. So I'm just looking at
the aggregator and I think I

1065
01:04:54,420 --> 01:04:59,970
have 780 feeds and as a way to
make some of them stickies.

1066
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,960
They're always at the top so I
don't miss them. And in that our

1067
01:05:04,170 --> 01:05:08,550
particular feeds from see spam
there's, there's a lot of video

1068
01:05:08,550 --> 01:05:11,310
stuff that people are collecting
that I subscribe to their feeds

1069
01:05:11,310 --> 01:05:14,190
is even a way to get some
YouTube stuff. And that's a very

1070
01:05:14,190 --> 01:05:17,280
good source of just stuff that's
out there cuz I can't watch

1071
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,300
everything. What's meanwhile I
am watching whatever's on the TV

1072
01:05:21,300 --> 01:05:23,760
here and I have a DVR. So if I
see something, I'll roll it

1073
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:30,450
back, I'll record it directly
into the right onto mp3. So I

1074
01:05:30,450 --> 01:05:33,060
have it directly in the
computer. I don't like that as

1075
01:05:33,060 --> 01:05:36,450
much because I I'd rather have a
source that people can go to in

1076
01:05:36,450 --> 01:05:39,780
the show notes, there's always
the the original video clips.

1077
01:05:40,290 --> 01:05:42,270
And sometimes I'll see something
on C span, but I'll actually

1078
01:05:42,270 --> 01:05:45,690
pull it from the C span website.
We're doing this all day long,

1079
01:05:45,930 --> 01:05:49,500
all day, and it's a bookmark
that'll see your story. So I get

1080
01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:52,170
all these emails and I prefer,
if someone's just sending me a

1081
01:05:52,170 --> 01:05:55,110
link, send it on Twitter, it's
much faster for me to open it

1082
01:05:55,110 --> 01:05:58,890
unless you have some story you
need to add to it. And I just

1083
01:05:58,890 --> 01:06:01,260
click on it, the story opens. If
I like it, there's a

1084
01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:04,590
bookmarklet. I click on that,
and it immediately tags it and

1085
01:06:04,590 --> 01:06:10,500
saves it. Then the night before
the show were really pretty much

1086
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:14,310
the so Saturday as an example,
it'll happen. I'll start around

1087
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,960
before dinner. And I'll start to
look at all of the videos that

1088
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,560
I've tagged. And then I'm going
to start recording those,

1089
01:06:23,250 --> 01:06:27,660
cutting them down I use fish in
which is just a MAC MAC product,

1090
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,890
very simple just for editing
like you do. And I have to

1091
01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:37,260
transform all of them into 96
kilobits, there's a lot of stuff

1092
01:06:37,260 --> 01:06:39,780
that I do there. And then I
start to look at all the

1093
01:06:39,780 --> 01:06:42,990
stories, I've now realized that
in the past four days or three

1094
01:06:42,990 --> 01:06:46,020
days, whatever cycle we're on,
there will be things that I've

1095
01:06:46,020 --> 01:06:49,950
been alerted to, or that I found
or they find interesting. And I

1096
01:06:49,950 --> 01:06:54,030
really dive down as deep as I
can to find you know, I've saved

1097
01:06:54,030 --> 01:06:57,360
PDFs and all kinds of things.
And I spent hours usually until

1098
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:02,010
one in the morning on Saturday
night as example. marking up

1099
01:07:02,010 --> 01:07:05,160
stuff and creating a little
rundown a story of how I want to

1100
01:07:05,430 --> 01:07:08,640
get to a point or something that
I found or, you know, I love

1101
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,050
looking at the the form 990s of
nonprofits and making

1102
01:07:13,050 --> 01:07:16,260
connections and seeing who's on
whatever it is. I love doing

1103
01:07:16,260 --> 01:07:18,870
that. And that's really, that's
really all done the evening

1104
01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:23,700
before. And then in the morning.
When I get up, I get up. Seven,

1105
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:28,620
so that's 910. Four hours before
the show. Yeah.

1106
01:07:32,370 --> 01:07:35,850
Yeah, no, no, you're a time.

1107
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:41,880
I started 11. The show starts at
11. Here. Yeah. Okay, we're out.

1108
01:07:41,970 --> 01:07:46,500
Yeah, for hours. And I'll do
another look at the what stories

1109
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:49,260
have come in where people have
tweeted anything else in the

1110
01:07:49,260 --> 01:07:51,930
aggregator sometimes there's
something big. And then after

1111
01:07:51,930 --> 01:07:55,170
breakfast, I guess I'll have
definitely have CNN, if

1112
01:07:55,170 --> 01:07:58,080
anything's changed, because you
don't want to put something out

1113
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,670
there that has changed
overnight.

1114
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,270
Well, yes, embarrassing to talk
about some of this changing as

1115
01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:04,260
we talk about it.

1116
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:07,350
And then I have to categorize
everything. And I put it in a

1117
01:08:07,350 --> 01:08:12,390
rundown of what I want to talk
about. And I usually have 14

1118
01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:15,390
different categories, some of
which are never, we never get

1119
01:08:15,390 --> 01:08:21,330
to. And these are all based
typically on web pages that I've

1120
01:08:21,330 --> 01:08:24,360
saved or things that I've put
together. And here's the cool

1121
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,410
thing about the freedom
controller after the show. I

1122
01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:34,530
really add the art the changes
in the links. Usually I do that,

1123
01:08:34,530 --> 01:08:37,650
right? We add our credits, and
then I publish that, and that

1124
01:08:37,650 --> 01:08:38,730
becomes the show notes.

1125
01:08:39,450 --> 01:08:41,700
Yeah, that's actually the cool.
One of the coolest things about

1126
01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:46,170
the show is the show notes. Very
well organized, which is, again,

1127
01:08:46,170 --> 01:08:49,890
you're a neat freak. I said you
were from the beginning. And

1128
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:54,360
that I think is very beneficial.
I don't do that. No, that no,

1129
01:08:54,510 --> 01:08:59,430
no, you don't have to use it. I
think it's valid. And it's good.

1130
01:08:59,430 --> 01:09:02,610
As a contrast we both did that
it would be we would kind of

1131
01:09:02,610 --> 01:09:06,300
know if it would work as well. I
use random walk theory which is

1132
01:09:06,300 --> 01:09:13,410
well known. And I expect through
serendipity and, and my being

1133
01:09:13,410 --> 01:09:17,910
connected to mainstream media
and also working for a living as

1134
01:09:18,780 --> 01:09:22,140
actually this show is my living
but it's beside the point. And

1135
01:09:22,140 --> 01:09:25,080
being out and about and doing
what I do to expect that these

1136
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:31,410
things will come to me through
either by either accident, or

1137
01:09:31,410 --> 01:09:36,210
overtly through somebody telling
me about it. Or my discovering

1138
01:09:36,210 --> 01:09:39,930
it. On my looking I do a daily I
look at Daily News, run run

1139
01:09:39,930 --> 01:09:43,560
downs to see what's cropping up.
And I do use Google because

1140
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:48,540
Google is a computerized system
that will bring those stories,

1141
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,020
certain kinds of stories up
well, the better stories are

1142
01:09:52,050 --> 01:09:54,930
buried and you pick those up
elsewhere. And I listened to a

1143
01:09:54,930 --> 01:09:57,990
lot of C span right and hope
they can hit something that's

1144
01:09:57,990 --> 01:10:02,460
actually like going to Reno or
Vegas, we spin the wheel, put it

1145
01:10:02,460 --> 01:10:06,540
on a number. PVC span is a
gamble. And it's it's the

1146
01:10:06,540 --> 01:10:12,360
biggest waste of time that I
have. I watched it a lot. And

1147
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,560
it's rare. I do much better if I
go on to C span website to let

1148
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,850
me do things overtly, but I will
run into stuff. In fact, I think

1149
01:10:20,940 --> 01:10:24,570
one of the greatest clips I ever
found was the clip I

1150
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,080
accidentally stumbled upon while
watching C span while they were

1151
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,530
talking about wildfires. When
Harry Reid I should dig that

1152
01:10:31,530 --> 01:10:35,520
clip up again as exhibition dig
up, where Harry Reid drops into

1153
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,810
the middle of an empty chamber
while they were there talking

1154
01:10:39,810 --> 01:10:44,250
about wildfires. Interrupts a
Republican who gladly turns the

1155
01:10:44,250 --> 01:10:48,720
floor over to him to the Senate
floor to him. And he passes the

1156
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:53,790
N D A, or the National Defense
Authorization bill in the dark.

1157
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:58,410
Behind closed essentially, yeah,
he passes it right there. We

1158
01:10:58,410 --> 01:11:01,530
looked it up. It was that was
the bill. Oh, yeah. Objection.

1159
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,970
Remember that? Yes, I do. A
without objection, and they will

1160
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,970
slam slam slam with a hammer
that objection he reads a bunch

1161
01:11:08,970 --> 01:11:11,790
of Craps. So the bill can't be
reintroduced, or nobody can say

1162
01:11:11,790 --> 01:11:14,550
no to what happened. And then he
walks off the floor, turns it

1163
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:18,750
back over to the wildfire guy.
Holy crap. And then the Congress

1164
01:11:18,750 --> 01:11:21,870
or we have clips of this to
where people come on. I don't

1165
01:11:21,870 --> 01:11:26,910
know how it got passed. Well, I
do I saw it passed.

1166
01:11:27,870 --> 01:11:29,970
If you were to name that clip
today, what would you name it?

1167
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:31,290
Oh, it'd

1168
01:11:31,290 --> 01:11:40,920
be Harry Reid or NDA or
wildfire. Or I have a tendency

1169
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:45,960
to weird, you know, something
like weird, weird happening, or

1170
01:11:46,290 --> 01:11:53,100
sometimes we'll miss name things
because I put WTF. Idiotic and I

1171
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:55,800
have to break myself that they
have it. But I apparently cannot

1172
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:56,190
do it.

1173
01:11:56,820 --> 01:11:58,980
I'm just the only reason I
asked. I'm just trying to see if

1174
01:11:58,980 --> 01:11:59,550
I can find it.

1175
01:11:59,580 --> 01:12:02,730
Yeah, be nice if you could find
because that was just like, wow.

1176
01:12:02,730 --> 01:12:07,620
And that is that is the lucky.
That is the rolling you know,

1177
01:12:07,860 --> 01:12:11,670
getting the roulette wheel to
hit the number you put your

1178
01:12:11,670 --> 01:12:12,090
dollar

1179
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:18,450
now? Is that the which NDAA. Was
that? 2012? I think it was the

1180
01:12:18,450 --> 01:12:23,220
12. Yeah. So then we get to use
one of the cool things. If it

1181
01:12:23,220 --> 01:12:28,470
wasn't shownotes anywhere. We
have searched.na shownotes.com,

1182
01:12:28,530 --> 01:12:32,820
which takes advantage of the XML
format of the show notes. And

1183
01:12:33,150 --> 01:12:37,560
let's take a look read in the
AAA. You never know might get

1184
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:43,740
lucky. Oh, well, I have the show
five ad that popped up House and

1185
01:12:43,740 --> 01:12:50,010
Senate quietly past bigger and
better NDA. That's five ad now

1186
01:12:50,010 --> 01:12:52,050
that's 2014. That That can't be
right.

1187
01:12:53,820 --> 01:12:56,580
That might be I mean, no. It
can't be No, it was definitely a

1188
01:12:56,580 --> 01:13:00,120
couple years ago. Yeah. And
yeah, they definitely and that's

1189
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,550
also referring to the House and
Senate. Both this was a Senate

1190
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,880
action. Sorry. No, no joy.

1191
01:13:06,269 --> 01:13:09,989
I'll dig it up myself someday.
It gives is worth playing again.

1192
01:13:09,989 --> 01:13:11,939
There's a lot of stuff worth
playing again. A good example of

1193
01:13:11,939 --> 01:13:17,339
that is the never ending saga
with North Korea. I have a clip

1194
01:13:17,339 --> 01:13:19,799
here, which is my one of my
favorites. I think it's been

1195
01:13:19,799 --> 01:13:25,949
three years ago four years ago.
This is the Hawaii clip. Got it.

1196
01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:29,460
Also tonight American warships
are tracking a North Korean

1197
01:13:29,460 --> 01:13:32,940
vessel off the coast of China
that may be carrying illegal

1198
01:13:32,940 --> 01:13:36,720
weapons. Meantime the Pentagon
is beefing up our missile

1199
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,380
defense system to protect Hawaii
from a North Korean missile

1200
01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:43,440
attack. Japanese newspaper
reports the North may be

1201
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:47,460
planning to test fire another
missile, this one aimed at

1202
01:13:47,460 --> 01:13:50,910
Hawaii on the Fourth of July.
Most analysts doubt that it

1203
01:13:50,910 --> 01:13:53,550
could reach the islands but
Defense Secretary Robert Gates

1204
01:13:53,580 --> 01:13:57,000
isn't taking any chances.
Deploying a giant radar and

1205
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,550
missile interceptors to the
Hawaiian Islands.

1206
01:13:59,820 --> 01:14:02,340
Passengers aboard a Trans
Atlantic flight.

1207
01:14:02,639 --> 01:14:04,409
I didn't get that out. You stop
it.

1208
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,950
With this. Yeah. This is a fine
example of one of the things

1209
01:14:07,950 --> 01:14:11,850
that we'll pick up on. And it's
just flabbergasting. It is

1210
01:14:11,850 --> 01:14:15,870
flabbergasting. What Pat what?
What passes off his news and

1211
01:14:15,870 --> 01:14:18,210
what people will dare to put on
the air

1212
01:14:18,450 --> 01:14:22,830
and what didn't and it forces
the public to be scared. You

1213
01:14:22,830 --> 01:14:26,850
know, the North Koreans aren't
attacking Hawaii. Oh yeah. Let's

1214
01:14:26,850 --> 01:14:31,410
say Let's bomb Hawaii. I mean,
what is it more nutcases who

1215
01:14:31,410 --> 01:14:33,870
would believe this story in a
million years but yet there it

1216
01:14:33,870 --> 01:14:36,630
goes right on mainstream media
right through though that's a

1217
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:39,090
local news but you know they
played it all over the country.

1218
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:42,570
And it was just like a it's just
a handshake or in this thing

1219
01:14:42,570 --> 01:14:45,960
that really well this makes it
nice to do this show. So we can

1220
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,540
keep pointing this out even
though I don't know if how good

1221
01:14:48,810 --> 01:14:53,430
I mean it does. Our listeners
enjoy it. And

1222
01:14:53,460 --> 01:14:58,080
it really shows okay, this is
this is this is what it really

1223
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:03,870
is about. If you want to To sell
something to people if you want

1224
01:15:03,870 --> 01:15:07,530
media to be something that
people talk about it has to hit

1225
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:13,560
some of the core core emotional
issues with people fear is I

1226
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:18,960
think top of the list your
children is close if not above

1227
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:24,810
it is very close second at best
then maybe sacks but if fear is

1228
01:15:24,810 --> 01:15:30,030
so easy everybody experiences
fear. Everybody knows it. It's

1229
01:15:30,330 --> 01:15:34,920
it's relatively easy to trigger
and this view here alternative

1230
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:43,140
the podcast you hear alternative
shows use fear as a as a as a

1231
01:15:43,140 --> 01:15:45,150
way to grow or as a way to keep
people

1232
01:15:45,150 --> 01:15:50,610
engaged Democracy Now every Tom
Hartman

1233
01:15:50,910 --> 01:15:55,320
every really everything because
when you're in a ratings game,

1234
01:15:56,010 --> 01:15:59,250
which means you can charge more
for your advertising. It doesn't

1235
01:15:59,250 --> 01:16:01,920
matter if you just have to get
more ratings. It does not matter

1236
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,280
how you do it. I don't think I
don't think there's anyone who

1237
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:05,880
is

1238
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:11,250
this is a guy who sells seeds.
Glenn Beck Yeah, who also sells

1239
01:16:11,250 --> 01:16:11,790
seeds

1240
01:16:12,990 --> 01:16:15,000
and Gold and Gold

1241
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:17,790
has endured as the market
collapses it's great

1242
01:16:17,820 --> 01:16:22,860
but it's even financial shows us
CNBC they're always selling fear

1243
01:16:22,860 --> 01:16:25,470
either fear that you're going to
lose out because you didn't sell

1244
01:16:25,470 --> 01:16:27,690
on time you're gonna ride it all
the way down to the bottom or

1245
01:16:27,690 --> 01:16:30,120
fear that you didn't buy it in
times it's gonna go up it's all

1246
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:35,370
based on fear, fear of loss of
life of liberty, whatever or of

1247
01:16:35,370 --> 01:16:38,310
just losing out not being part
of the crowd all based on fear

1248
01:16:38,430 --> 01:16:42,060
we pretty much don't do that
which keeps us nice and small

1249
01:16:46,050 --> 01:16:51,510
cozy little show but it's also
really nice. I am extremely

1250
01:16:51,510 --> 01:16:58,020
happy. Yeah, I'm not rich No,
but I was not happy then

1251
01:16:58,140 --> 01:17:01,380
and which reminds me we should
mention here it take a short

1252
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:05,580
break that this show still does
need support even though we do

1253
01:17:05,580 --> 01:17:08,010
not since the show is pre
recorded we did not have the

1254
01:17:08,010 --> 01:17:11,700
chance to bring in the and we
will do the people who

1255
01:17:11,700 --> 01:17:14,970
contributed for the Christmas
show on the following Sunday.

1256
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,990
And so they will be thanked
profusely for helping do the

1257
01:17:18,990 --> 01:17:22,320
Christmas show that produce it
but we want to remind people you

1258
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,530
do have to help us by going to
divorce that org slash and a or

1259
01:17:25,530 --> 01:17:28,710
the and the support page which
is the support page where you

1260
01:17:28,710 --> 01:17:32,130
can then take out a program of
some sort like a subscription or

1261
01:17:32,370 --> 01:17:35,250
or just donate straight up and
then there will be a newsletter

1262
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,810
asking for some additional
support now there's a couple of

1263
01:17:39,810 --> 01:17:44,310
things we also do in the show
which I think this is this is

1264
01:17:44,310 --> 01:17:47,880
done by we're not the only guys
who do this I think we get stuff

1265
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,960
that is unique necessarily but I
don't check on all the other

1266
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:57,300
shows that that get humorous
clips necessarily to see if you

1267
01:17:57,300 --> 01:17:59,820
know how they're handling them
because it's I don't want to

1268
01:17:59,820 --> 01:18:03,090
look derivative when I do one
but I but we get stuff like this

1269
01:18:03,090 --> 01:18:05,820
and this is an old edge shows
this is the what's wrong with

1270
01:18:05,820 --> 01:18:09,990
Edge Schultz horndogs that where
he's trying to say something but

1271
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:14,010
it comes off is a horn as a horn
dog this guy

1272
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,080
and find workers in the
workplace who were basically

1273
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,690
getting screwed that O'Reilly
the next time you get on an

1274
01:18:18,690 --> 01:18:21,840
airplane as I got one on this
morning from New York to

1275
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,930
Washington, I thought about the
flight attendants.

1276
01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:31,200
As I got one on this morning, I
thought about the flight

1277
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:35,220
attendant. I don't recall this
clip. The Oh yeah, you cracked

1278
01:18:35,250 --> 01:18:38,520
sure I liked it. Yeah, it was a
funny clip when we played the

1279
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:43,770
first time as I got one on.
Yeah, that's good. That's good.

1280
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,670
So we do stuff like that, which
I think a lot of people it's a

1281
01:18:47,670 --> 01:18:49,650
big part of the show because
when you're getting a lot of

1282
01:18:49,650 --> 01:18:52,800
clips, you find these gaps. I
mean, there's one here I have a

1283
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,280
sharpening gaff that we probably
haven't played for a long time,

1284
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,550
but it's not it's not the first
gaff that we ever played from

1285
01:18:59,550 --> 01:19:03,060
Sharpton. I believe the first
gaff is the one I discovered

1286
01:19:03,060 --> 01:19:07,740
with the much resists we much we
much no this isn't it. This is

1287
01:19:07,740 --> 01:19:08,220
when I think

1288
01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:12,720
you know what I have. John, this
is a good opportunity to play

1289
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:17,370
this because this is new. Catch.

1290
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:27,840
Catch, Gaff. That's good. Nice.
Well, here's a gaff, that is a

1291
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,540
sharp 10 again, and this was one
of the I think this may have

1292
01:19:30,540 --> 01:19:33,420
been the second time we caught
him before it became obvious

1293
01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:35,700
that this guy was just a
goldmine for these things and

1294
01:19:35,700 --> 01:19:41,010
watch captain says he shot the
teen and self defense for the

1295
01:19:41,010 --> 01:19:45,780
young man was not armed. He was
going back home after buying an

1296
01:19:45,780 --> 01:19:53,700
iced tea and skillets can name
calling no incendiary language.

1297
01:19:54,060 --> 01:20:01,260
Just the facts. A young man did.
The salmon says self defense.

1298
01:20:01,830 --> 01:20:07,560
What is found on the young man
still it's an ICE T. Probable

1299
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,360
cause for an arrest. I

1300
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,100
wonder what the gaffe was

1301
01:20:11,460 --> 01:20:18,510
skillets and ICE T. We find
trends that are obvious to us

1302
01:20:18,510 --> 01:20:21,540
and apparently to nobody else,
which is one of the in this

1303
01:20:21,540 --> 01:20:24,360
includes the global warming
propaganda and the six week

1304
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,540
cycle and the six week cycle
which which seems to have

1305
01:20:27,540 --> 01:20:30,060
changed somewhat. We don't have
that anymore. We did play that

1306
01:20:30,060 --> 01:20:34,260
was good for a couple of years
or shows. But there was this I

1307
01:20:34,260 --> 01:20:36,960
ran into this clip just
casually. And this was from

1308
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:41,730
about four years ago or maybe
five years ago. And it was an

1309
01:20:41,730 --> 01:20:44,790
early economic report on
California is trying to pick up

1310
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:50,940
steam. And I guess nobody in the
in the venture capital community

1311
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,950
noticed this, but I it's it may.
It was interesting to me. This

1312
01:20:55,950 --> 01:20:58,410
is the clip no green jobs.

1313
01:20:59,339 --> 01:21:03,929
Oh, hold. I messed that up.
Sorry. What happened here? Yeah,

1314
01:21:04,019 --> 01:21:08,849
just so people know, when John's
doing the lead up to a clip. I

1315
01:21:08,849 --> 01:21:13,079
am scanning his list, thinking
what could it be? What could it

1316
01:21:13,079 --> 01:21:13,259
be? I

1317
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,520
guess me and I and normally he
doesn't sometimes I tease it in

1318
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:21,630
such a way that he can find it
with a quick search. Right. But

1319
01:21:21,660 --> 01:21:24,720
often because it's like today,
there's too many clips.

1320
01:21:24,990 --> 01:21:27,900
That's not the problem. This is
just you said California venture

1321
01:21:27,900 --> 01:21:31,020
capitalists, no green jobs. I
wouldn't have guessed that.

1322
01:21:31,380 --> 01:21:33,840
The forecast says the
California's unemployment rate

1323
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,770
will not drop back to single
digits for another year, fueled

1324
01:21:37,890 --> 01:21:41,520
by a growth in manufacturing,
agriculture and shipping and

1325
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,240
warehousing. Notice something
missing? And BC barriers. Garvan

1326
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,210
Thomas is here with what much
hyped industry is not on that

1327
01:21:48,210 --> 01:21:52,200
list and who says it should be
garbage. Tom Green Technology is

1328
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,780
what he's not on the list. The
author of the Anderson Forecast

1329
01:21:54,780 --> 01:21:57,330
here that says there just
doesn't seem to be enough demand

1330
01:21:57,330 --> 01:22:00,240
for jobs like solar panel
installers or wind turbine

1331
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,330
workers to make a dent in the
state's unemployment rate. He

1332
01:22:03,330 --> 01:22:06,090
says that all the hype that
green is going to drive the

1333
01:22:06,090 --> 01:22:08,850
economy. Well, it's just not
true

1334
01:22:08,940 --> 01:22:10,590
until we brought in the
subsidies.

1335
01:22:11,550 --> 01:22:16,530
Well, it's still it's still
nothing. Now while we're doing

1336
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,080
clips like that, which I get it
pretty common for the show to

1337
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,680
have a clip like that. We used
to have more of this sort of

1338
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:28,080
clip which is the chainsaw guy
clip. This was from a report

1339
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:32,370
about some creepy murderer. We
don't do this that much. But few

1340
01:22:32,370 --> 01:22:34,170
could have guessed the real
truth.

1341
01:22:35,550 --> 01:22:38,850
Far from being a war hero,
Robert Gleason was actually a

1342
01:22:38,850 --> 01:22:42,840
former mental patient. On the
run from the police. A

1343
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,290
compulsive hoarder of firearms,
he'd been sectioned for shooting

1344
01:22:46,290 --> 01:22:50,310
up a hospital and jump bail in
Buffalo, New York. After

1345
01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:51,630
shooting a man in the foot.

1346
01:22:52,140 --> 01:22:56,760
His conflict resolution method
is to be violent or to threaten

1347
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,840
violence. He's in love with
guns, he's just infatuated with

1348
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:01,230
guns.

1349
01:23:01,710 --> 01:23:04,950
Unbeknownst to the moment
community policing his past was

1350
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:08,940
littered with firearms offenses
and odd behavior. three wives

1351
01:23:08,940 --> 01:23:12,570
have left him the last one she
found him taking a bath with a

1352
01:23:12,570 --> 01:23:13,830
dissemble, dear.

1353
01:23:15,810 --> 01:23:19,050
All right. So here's genesis of
the show, which as we heard in

1354
01:23:19,050 --> 01:23:23,280
the beginning, we said we don't
talk about news then we and also

1355
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,970
this is technology is a part of
this being a DVR do we have DVRs

1356
01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:31,290
maybe I don't think it was not
that easy eight years ago, seven

1357
01:23:31,290 --> 01:23:34,410
years ago, just to record stuff
and just wasn't we didn't have a

1358
01:23:34,410 --> 01:23:38,430
lot of the things we have today.
Then we started to ridicule

1359
01:23:38,730 --> 01:23:42,360
media, funny things. And then we
started to pick up on things

1360
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:47,040
about although I don't have a
clip of it, big disclaimers on

1361
01:23:47,820 --> 01:23:51,570
pharmaceutical products where it
15 seconds is what it is and

1362
01:23:51,570 --> 01:23:54,840
then 45 seconds of disclaimers
of all the things that will go

1363
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:55,260
along with

1364
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:00,120
one good example here. Let's see
if I if I moved over. I mean,

1365
01:24:00,150 --> 01:24:02,490
yeah, we don't do that as much
as we used to because it got to

1366
01:24:02,490 --> 01:24:05,790
be see is there any
pharmaceutical name? Sure. I

1367
01:24:05,790 --> 01:24:08,880
have one somewhere. And now
they're all over the place

1368
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,710
actually scared. I'm looking for
it

1369
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:17,250
I don't see it.

1370
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:22,710
I don't see anything in your
list either. Well, oh, I got a

1371
01:24:22,710 --> 01:24:26,670
bunch of them here. I can just
pull one. What do we have? This

1372
01:24:26,670 --> 01:24:29,040
one I'm not sure when this is
from but we'll take it

1373
01:24:29,070 --> 01:24:32,820
imagine the possibilities with
Stelara. For adults. Stelara

1374
01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:36,690
helps control moderate or severe
plaque psoriasis with four doses

1375
01:24:36,690 --> 01:24:40,590
a year after two starter doses.
In a medical study, seven out of

1376
01:24:40,590 --> 01:24:45,360
10 Stelara patients saw at least
75% Clear Skin at 12 weeks and

1377
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,490
here we go six out of 10
patients have their plaque

1378
01:24:47,490 --> 01:24:51,240
psoriasis rated as cleared or
minimal at 12 weeks that's 22.

1379
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,970
Second, they lower your ability
to fight infections and increase

1380
01:24:53,970 --> 01:24:56,850
your risk of infections. Some
serious infections require

1381
01:24:56,850 --> 01:25:00,000
hospitalization before starting
Stelara Your doctor should tell

1382
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,940
test for tuberculosis Stelara
may increase your risk of

1383
01:25:02,940 --> 01:25:05,610
cancer, always tell your doctor
if you have any sign of

1384
01:25:05,610 --> 01:25:09,090
infection or have had cancer.
Alert your doctor of new or

1385
01:25:09,090 --> 01:25:12,540
worsening problems, including
headaches, seizures, confusion

1386
01:25:12,540 --> 01:25:15,570
and vision problems. These may
be signs of a rare potentially

1387
01:25:15,570 --> 01:25:18,810
fatal brain condition, serious
allergic reactions can occur.

1388
01:25:19,020 --> 01:25:21,690
Tell your doctor if you or
anyone in your house needs or

1389
01:25:21,690 --> 01:25:25,500
has recently received a vaccine
with for a year after two

1390
01:25:25,500 --> 01:25:27,210
starter doses, it's the latter

1391
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,530
22 seconds of information all
the rest is disclaimer muiden

1392
01:25:31,530 --> 01:25:34,710
ridiculed a lot of that I think,
from my perspective, at a

1393
01:25:34,710 --> 01:25:40,110
certain point, I just it became
so easy for me to look at

1394
01:25:40,140 --> 01:25:43,770
something that was news. And
even just looking at a map and

1395
01:25:43,770 --> 01:25:48,090
say, Oh, hold on a second. This
either makes no sense. or Now I

1396
01:25:48,090 --> 01:25:52,110
see what's really going on. And
it's just a little bit of

1397
01:25:52,110 --> 01:25:54,540
research, which I'm not schooled
as a researcher, I have no

1398
01:25:54,540 --> 01:25:59,160
college degree. It's not that
hard. You just have to do the

1399
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,160
work. And be prepared to hit a
dead

1400
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,730
end. Yeah, which is most of the
time, but a lot

1401
01:26:05,730 --> 01:26:08,400
of the time. Yeah, a lot. And
when we have a lot of really

1402
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:12,450
good people who do certain
research and send stories and

1403
01:26:12,450 --> 01:26:19,680
ideas, we have a two guys from
the Netherlands actually, who

1404
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:24,690
posted the no agenda, news
network, another site that are

1405
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,230
really it's part of I think all
of my feeds are in there all 700

1406
01:26:28,230 --> 01:26:30,600
feeds that I'm subscribed to
flow through there. And a lot of

1407
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:34,110
those are from producers who
create RSS feeds, and you can

1408
01:26:34,110 --> 01:26:36,300
add your own RSS feed
automatically. You don't need

1409
01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:40,050
any, anything, any permission to
do that. Those guys sometimes

1410
01:26:40,050 --> 01:26:44,250
will do 2030 different links a
day, all quality, all great

1411
01:26:44,250 --> 01:26:47,070
stuff. And then I get things
sent through email with

1412
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:51,720
explanations and viewpoints know
a lot of times it's is No, it's

1413
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,590
nothing or no good. But a lot of
times it's really spectacular.

1414
01:26:57,390 --> 01:27:01,260
And I like the instance the
reason the reasonable commentary

1415
01:27:01,260 --> 01:27:05,850
by the Canadian producer who
mentioned that Warren Buffett is

1416
01:27:05,850 --> 01:27:10,980
the train guy and he's making
money off the oil coming in from

1417
01:27:10,980 --> 01:27:15,720
the Alberta tar sands and Bill
Gates. And Bill Gates owns a

1418
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,240
Canadian you know, he's the
biggest investor in Canadian

1419
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:23,220
rail. Did you know that? Yes.
Yeah. Yeah. So he's got the he's

1420
01:27:23,220 --> 01:27:26,220
got the Canadian rail and bumps
got the other one. And so heck

1421
01:27:26,220 --> 01:27:29,370
with the Keystone pipeline, who
needs that? It's going to cost

1422
01:27:29,370 --> 01:27:32,670
them money. Now I have a clip on
here it says, Are you fucking

1423
01:27:32,670 --> 01:27:33,450
kidding me?

1424
01:27:34,740 --> 01:27:37,500
And you don't know what you
don't know what? Hit it.

1425
01:27:37,980 --> 01:27:41,820
So believe it or not, there's an
app for apes and outreach. For

1426
01:27:41,820 --> 01:27:45,180
Ranga Tang sent iPads to zoos
all over the country, the

1427
01:27:45,180 --> 01:27:48,780
primates are using them to paint
and to color and scientists hope

1428
01:27:48,780 --> 01:27:52,590
that they'll eventually Skype
with Apes at other zoos.

1429
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:58,710
Yeah, this was four years ago, I
just some of this story. Are the

1430
01:27:58,710 --> 01:28:01,740
apes communicating? No, you know
what happens? They grabbed this

1431
01:28:01,740 --> 01:28:05,490
thing, they do something and
they get mad at and smash it. So

1432
01:28:05,490 --> 01:28:08,460
this was a stupid idea from the
beginning. And if and the

1433
01:28:08,460 --> 01:28:11,310
mainstream news people, the
corporate news, people, whatever

1434
01:28:11,310 --> 01:28:15,750
you want to call them
advertising, they tell the story

1435
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:20,160
straight without any thought
whatsoever. The first thing I

1436
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,830
would say, Why aren't the apes
just busting these things up?

1437
01:28:22,830 --> 01:28:24,420
Because that's what apes like to
do.

1438
01:28:24,450 --> 01:28:27,000
wasn't wasn't at the time. And
this is another thing we catch

1439
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,930
on to wasn't that around the
time of the Planet of the Apes

1440
01:28:30,930 --> 01:28:33,690
movie. I remember when
deconstructed that actually

1441
01:28:33,690 --> 01:28:38,280
this week catch. We probably the
only podcast or news did

1442
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:43,620
analysts ever that connect the
dots on these movies? I'd say

1443
01:28:43,620 --> 01:28:46,440
99% of the time we miss them.
Every once in a while we do a

1444
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:49,320
whole story on something. Did
you notice that there's a movie?

1445
01:28:49,740 --> 01:28:52,590
You know, it's like I was doing
a thing on selfies. And then all

1446
01:28:52,590 --> 01:28:58,290
of a sudden, there's a TV show
selfies and Kardashians got a

1447
01:28:58,290 --> 01:29:01,920
book coming out on it. They just
own selfies.

1448
01:29:01,950 --> 01:29:06,270
This is probably this is where
we need to just briefly discuss

1449
01:29:06,270 --> 01:29:10,080
for people who haven't heard
this from us before. This is how

1450
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:14,400
the news is put together. There
really aren't people. They just

1451
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,530
look at the look at the
headlines here. The New York

1452
01:29:16,530 --> 01:29:21,660
Times is trying to fire well.
Pay off 100 people, everybody's

1453
01:29:21,660 --> 01:29:25,770
cutting staff. There's there's
just almost they are only trying

1454
01:29:25,770 --> 01:29:26,670
to either.

1455
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:31,320
In fact before you go on. No.
You have the New York Times. You

1456
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:35,610
just mentioned it you dropped to
you open the door. Five years

1457
01:29:35,610 --> 01:29:41,670
ago, there's the Times reporter
clip. Got it.

1458
01:29:42,450 --> 01:29:46,710
Our Cawthorne on the streets for
more than 30 years was once a

1459
01:29:46,710 --> 01:29:50,610
reporter for the New York Times.
You know I was normal for 35

1460
01:29:50,610 --> 01:29:53,940
years and then I got bored for
Hawthorne and others who live

1461
01:29:53,940 --> 01:29:56,580
outdoors with all their
possessions being in the

1462
01:29:56,580 --> 01:29:58,860
calendar was a point of pride.

1463
01:29:58,890 --> 01:30:03,990
Yeah. He was, this is a guy,
homeless man, New York Times

1464
01:30:03,990 --> 01:30:07,560
reporter that got on the
homeless calendar, somebody put

1465
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,110
a bunch of guys on, you know,
the calendar on a calendar. And

1466
01:30:10,110 --> 01:30:14,910
so and so I did, I forgot all
about that clip. But that to me

1467
01:30:14,910 --> 01:30:17,100
is your new york times the
future, the New York Times

1468
01:30:17,130 --> 01:30:17,550
anyway.

1469
01:30:17,940 --> 01:30:21,960
So before we get to the native
advertising part, what really is

1470
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:26,520
going on? These stories are
generated either. And you can

1471
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,950
see this in tech press, which I
think is one of our big pet

1472
01:30:28,950 --> 01:30:34,200
peeves. It really is the PR
company placing messaging,

1473
01:30:34,230 --> 01:30:38,730
creating controversy, creating
stories like apes and iPads,

1474
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,420
anything to connect it either
directly or indirectly or

1475
01:30:42,420 --> 01:30:45,210
suddenly, um, some of them are
very, very good at it. And some

1476
01:30:45,210 --> 01:30:49,260
campaigns are really
extraordinary. And it's and they

1477
01:30:49,260 --> 01:30:52,500
have all the right elements, you
throw it into the machine, and

1478
01:30:52,500 --> 01:30:55,230
it just goes and it's, it's
usually it has something funny,

1479
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,490
something interesting, but it is
connected to a some product or

1480
01:30:59,490 --> 01:31:05,250
something that is being sold.
And that is 90%. I'd say 90% of

1481
01:31:05,250 --> 01:31:07,890
your news is based on that,
because how are new stories

1482
01:31:07,890 --> 01:31:13,260
chosen? Who does that? Who
chooses it? I asked you?

1483
01:31:13,710 --> 01:31:17,370
Well, the way it depends on was
a newspaper or a broadcast

1484
01:31:17,370 --> 01:31:22,200
outlet in the smallest market
broadcasters, the news stories

1485
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:26,340
and everything is chosen by the
day one of the one of the

1486
01:31:26,790 --> 01:31:29,730
broadcasting talkers, one of the
talking heads. He just picked

1487
01:31:29,730 --> 01:31:32,280
stories, usually from the New
York Times and there's there's

1488
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:36,150
kind of an unwritten rule and
radio that if it's not in the

1489
01:31:36,150 --> 01:31:38,790
New York Times, you don't really
report it unless it's very

1490
01:31:38,790 --> 01:31:42,810
special local news that is in a
local paper. You don't do

1491
01:31:42,810 --> 01:31:44,760
anything outside the box at all.

1492
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,420
That's still an unwritten rule.
I have my Oh, yes. Really? Yeah.

1493
01:31:48,780 --> 01:31:49,110
Yeah,

1494
01:31:49,140 --> 01:31:52,770
absolutely. And except on the
Fox channels,

1495
01:31:53,370 --> 01:31:56,520
obviously, any morning zoo does
so called news. And they're

1496
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:57,240
scanning that but

1497
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:01,320
that's I'm talking about news.
Show. I'm not talking about

1498
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:05,010
performances. Okay. And the
newspaper, there is a big there

1499
01:32:05,010 --> 01:32:06,990
have a big meeting. Just
interrupt.

1500
01:32:07,260 --> 01:32:10,470
It is exactly those
performances, though, that

1501
01:32:10,470 --> 01:32:14,100
creates the virality of a lot of
these new stories, I think.

1502
01:32:15,420 --> 01:32:18,360
I believe they're part of the
virality I'm not sure what

1503
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:23,940
creates it initially. Something
does. The morning zoo guys

1504
01:32:23,940 --> 01:32:26,160
listen to each other's I don't
know where they talk, no bounty,

1505
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,860
they'll listen to each other.
They probably hear from people

1506
01:32:28,860 --> 01:32:30,120
that listen to all of them. But
we

1507
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:34,200
also we know what our what our
producers want to hear. We pick

1508
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,090
stories that we think they'll
like and we're picking we're

1509
01:32:36,090 --> 01:32:36,750
choosing

1510
01:32:37,380 --> 01:32:44,910
do well, that's essentially what
is done in, in broadcasting on

1511
01:32:44,940 --> 01:32:47,910
kind of, what would you call it
to alternative outlets? They

1512
01:32:48,030 --> 01:32:52,590
tend to pick stories that but
it's interesting to us, you and

1513
01:32:52,590 --> 01:32:55,890
me. Also, it's not as though
we're just what did you think

1514
01:32:55,890 --> 01:32:58,680
these folks would like to hear?
That never works out? You have

1515
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,690
to kind of entertain yourself.
But anyway, back to the

1516
01:33:00,690 --> 01:33:03,420
newspaper. The newspapers have
meetings, and they have an

1517
01:33:03,450 --> 01:33:06,780
editor in chief who's at the
front of the whole thing. And

1518
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:11,520
they bring in the chiefs, the
head of the city department that

1519
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,560
does city desk and all the rest
of them. They're all in there's

1520
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:17,250
about maybe eight nine people,
and then they start pitching

1521
01:33:17,250 --> 01:33:19,680
stories where they would they
want to run on their section or

1522
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:24,480
if they want to put on the front
page. And the editor, the editor

1523
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:27,750
in chief makes the final
decision. And if it's a bad

1524
01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:30,960
decision, they their argument
will ensue. And they may or may

1525
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,020
not relent generally not but
they can and they will

1526
01:33:35,250 --> 01:33:38,730
occasionally and then they
decide on what's going to be in

1527
01:33:38,730 --> 01:33:42,930
the paper that day and they will
and then the right wingers that

1528
01:33:42,930 --> 01:33:48,270
have been critical of the
mainstream media excuse me, they

1529
01:33:48,270 --> 01:33:52,050
have always said that it's not
the the lack of objectivity by

1530
01:33:52,050 --> 01:33:55,860
the reporters because their
reporters are objective as best

1531
01:33:55,860 --> 01:34:06,420
they can let me get some water
in his spiel. Anyway, so they

1532
01:34:06,780 --> 01:34:10,560
they in the right wingers have
always said if you'd listened to

1533
01:34:10,590 --> 01:34:14,010
their theories about what's
wrong with the media, it's the

1534
01:34:14,190 --> 01:34:19,140
it's the selection of the news
that is that slanted to the

1535
01:34:19,140 --> 01:34:22,680
left. They're always you know,
certain kinds of stories or you

1536
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:26,580
know, the ones that Republicans
are always bad and they and

1537
01:34:26,580 --> 01:34:30,570
they're Democrats are always
good stories. And you ended up

1538
01:34:30,570 --> 01:34:34,080
with a kind of a structure that
you have today in the olden days

1539
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,620
when the papers are all owned by
right wingers and then managed

1540
01:34:37,620 --> 01:34:42,360
by Democrats at least the
newspaper owner would come in

1541
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:42,990
and

1542
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:48,390
and write influence Yeah. You
don't think so? happens I'm sure

1543
01:34:48,390 --> 01:34:49,290
that still happens.

1544
01:34:49,470 --> 01:34:52,770
No, everybody's now the papers
are owned by left by large left

1545
01:34:52,830 --> 01:34:57,150
left leaning corporations. The
again the corporations that they

1546
01:34:57,150 --> 01:35:00,240
don't do that anymore. These
large corporations they As far

1547
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,610
as they're concerned is a
product that either makes money

1548
01:35:02,610 --> 01:35:05,160
or it doesn't if it doesn't make
money, why not let's what do we

1549
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,860
have to change? native
advertising? That's where native

1550
01:35:07,860 --> 01:35:11,730
ad advertising is making a
headway in places like the New

1551
01:35:11,730 --> 01:35:17,730
York Times. Right, the General
Electric definitely doesn't give

1552
01:35:17,730 --> 01:35:21,960
a crap they're actually promote
the left wing agenda with their

1553
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,950
shows and their networks. I
don't know how long this is

1554
01:35:25,950 --> 01:35:28,440
gonna go on, because I don't
believe the Comcast people that

1555
01:35:28,470 --> 01:35:34,440
took over the NBC network are
going to continue to put up with

1556
01:35:34,440 --> 01:35:38,280
this unless they're a bunch of
crazy liberals. That doesn't

1557
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,640
make any sense. But you mean put
up with what with with, with

1558
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:46,890
MSNBC, NBC, all this left
leaning? It's very slanted

1559
01:35:47,580 --> 01:35:51,240
network. Its left. It's the
leftist network. I mean, MSNBC

1560
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,510
is a perfect example. They just
slam Republicans for whatever

1561
01:35:54,510 --> 01:35:57,210
they do. It's actually pro
Democrat more than even the

1562
01:35:57,210 --> 01:36:01,170
left. It's not even progressive.
It's just Democrat, Democrat,

1563
01:36:01,170 --> 01:36:04,800
Democrat. Hooray for the
Democrats, as very boring to

1564
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,590
most people, including
Democrats. Nobody, no Democrat

1565
01:36:07,590 --> 01:36:10,620
listens to that. They are they
they're, if you're a Democrat,

1566
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,910
you don't need to be told that
you know, you're great. If

1567
01:36:14,910 --> 01:36:16,770
you're Republican, you don't
need to be told you're great.

1568
01:36:17,250 --> 01:36:21,300
But they keep telling you you're
great as though you I don't know

1569
01:36:21,300 --> 01:36:23,970
what the point of it is, is
boring is very boring pro

1570
01:36:23,970 --> 01:36:27,540
programming that just be
cheerleading. Cheerleading is

1571
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:28,770
bad journalism.

1572
01:36:29,370 --> 01:36:30,690
Right? Well, there's

1573
01:36:30,690 --> 01:36:34,380
a lot of that. Yes, it happens
indented, and you are dead on

1574
01:36:34,380 --> 01:36:37,710
its head and technology right
now is almost all cheerleading.

1575
01:36:38,370 --> 01:36:41,610
And we had some guy that wrote
us a letter, the Russian guy, he

1576
01:36:41,610 --> 01:36:45,750
says he I give you some money,
but my guess was negative for

1577
01:36:45,750 --> 01:36:49,170
Russians. I give you some money,
if you you know, because you

1578
01:36:49,170 --> 01:36:52,860
guys have seen that the Russian
anti Russian propaganda is, you

1579
01:36:52,860 --> 01:36:54,270
know, is what it is you wanted

1580
01:36:54,270 --> 01:36:57,630
to donate for specific segments.
And if you did a

1581
01:36:57,630 --> 01:37:01,230
segment on Russia, we don't do
segments is another thing we

1582
01:37:01,230 --> 01:37:07,020
don't the show doesn't hit as an
unstructured show. Kind of No,

1583
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:10,440
it's very instructional we had,
we have an opening, we have an

1584
01:37:10,440 --> 01:37:14,160
opening, closing. And the
closing. We have to,

1585
01:37:14,490 --> 01:37:17,160
we have weather and weather and
news on the eights

1586
01:37:17,310 --> 01:37:22,110
we have asked people to go to
divert.org/na. And we have we

1587
01:37:22,110 --> 01:37:26,700
thank everyone who's contributed
a certain amount of, of money to

1588
01:37:26,700 --> 01:37:32,070
the show to keep it going. And I
don't see any other structure.

1589
01:37:32,070 --> 01:37:35,940
There's no structure to the
actual content. It's it's

1590
01:37:35,940 --> 01:37:37,830
headless. Is headless Drupal.

1591
01:37:39,420 --> 01:37:43,890
Man is way ahead of me on her
head is gonna go ahead. Headless

1592
01:37:43,890 --> 01:37:51,000
Drupal. Yeah. Yeah. Well, for me
that I always have

1593
01:37:51,030 --> 01:37:55,020
excellent, we do our stick, go
back and forth. Yeah, there's

1594
01:37:55,020 --> 01:37:57,240
structure to that, because we've
been working together. But it's

1595
01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:01,350
like, it's still a comedy act.
That is, you know, the structure

1596
01:38:01,350 --> 01:38:06,720
structure within it was only
based on experience. I mean, we

1597
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:10,800
create structure on the fly,
right. But I think the show if

1598
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,320
anyone examined it show after
show after show it's it has no

1599
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,960
structure, which segments in
other words,

1600
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:19,320
which is, is another thing that
I believe is part of the success

1601
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:23,370
of having done very low budget
work with radio and television.

1602
01:38:23,910 --> 01:38:27,720
That seems like there always had
to be a producer, a producer,

1603
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:32,730
who was either collecting or
aggregating or feeding whatever

1604
01:38:32,730 --> 01:38:36,030
it is, and we and also making
decisions about when to cut

1605
01:38:36,030 --> 01:38:39,870
something went and we are both
and we're each other's producer,

1606
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:45,690
which I think is really that to
me is really key. That it may

1607
01:38:45,690 --> 01:38:50,850
not always happen on the show
may happen afterwards. That was,

1608
01:38:51,270 --> 01:38:53,700
that was no good. That was too
long, or this was outstanding,

1609
01:38:53,700 --> 01:38:57,630
whatever it is not having that
another element in there and

1610
01:38:57,630 --> 01:38:59,940
people offer all the time. Hey,
can produce this for you. We can

1611
01:38:59,940 --> 01:39:02,370
do this. No, no, no, no, no.
We'll do it all ourselves.

1612
01:39:02,370 --> 01:39:03,990
Please let us just do it
ourselves.

1613
01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:12,090
Yeah, I'm always baffled by
these podcasts that have staffs.

1614
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:16,530
I mean, this is the 20. This is
2014 2015 We're coming up on

1615
01:39:17,490 --> 01:39:20,820
this model has changed,
especially the audio model has

1616
01:39:20,820 --> 01:39:26,700
changed since 1905 or 1910, when
amateur first radio started

1617
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,460
being produced and coming out
and those became a huge hobby,

1618
01:39:29,460 --> 01:39:31,740
and then it became commercial.
And then the big networks

1619
01:39:31,740 --> 01:39:35,130
formed. I'm reading a book right
now from Britain in 1935 on

1620
01:39:35,130 --> 01:39:38,550
advertising and radio, and it
discusses all the formation of

1621
01:39:38,550 --> 01:39:42,750
NBC and the NBC blue in the red
what's, what's the book call is

1622
01:39:42,750 --> 01:39:45,630
called like advertising and
radio. It's available. I think I

1623
01:39:45,630 --> 01:39:49,200
found it on archive.org. I'll
send you the file. If you have a

1624
01:39:49,530 --> 01:39:53,190
Kindle. You want to read it on
to Kindle. I'm reading it and

1625
01:39:53,190 --> 01:39:56,190
it's talks about all the like
the gold network it was used to

1626
01:39:56,190 --> 01:39:58,440
be in California tell us about
all the networks how they formed

1627
01:39:58,440 --> 01:40:03,210
and how they you know why A CBS
became so successful is because

1628
01:40:03,810 --> 01:40:08,490
at one time NBC was when you
joined the NBC network, either

1629
01:40:08,490 --> 01:40:11,730
the blue or the red. And there
was, I think the colors related

1630
01:40:11,730 --> 01:40:15,060
to what part of the country they
were in not. And I think in some

1631
01:40:15,060 --> 01:40:17,670
ways they ran simultaneously.
But there were two networks

1632
01:40:17,670 --> 01:40:22,050
separate the NBC when networking
first came out, or the network

1633
01:40:22,050 --> 01:40:24,780
idea first came out, you join
the network, and then NBC would

1634
01:40:24,780 --> 01:40:29,850
pay you like $50 to share a show
a half hour show a Mystery Show

1635
01:40:29,850 --> 01:40:33,600
and such in such a time. And
this became a hue as this

1636
01:40:33,630 --> 01:40:37,110
thing's progress. This became a
huge problem, as CBS realized

1637
01:40:37,110 --> 01:40:38,820
when they watch what NBC was
doing, and they did a

1638
01:40:38,820 --> 01:40:44,700
differently. NBC they had a flat
rate. So a guy a guy in Omaha

1639
01:40:44,700 --> 01:40:49,290
with a 500 watt station will
make the same amount as same

1640
01:40:49,290 --> 01:40:52,500
amount as some guy with 50,000
Watts and the 50,000 Watt guy

1641
01:40:52,590 --> 01:40:57,780
couldn't afford to put the show
on for 50 bucks because he had a

1642
01:40:57,780 --> 01:41:01,650
big right he had a big it was
very expensive. This gear was

1643
01:41:01,650 --> 01:41:02,280
not cheap.

1644
01:41:03,030 --> 01:41:07,830
The fuel to power a 50,000 watt,
and the energy to power that

1645
01:41:07,830 --> 01:41:11,970
transmitters, the biggest cost
is yes, huge amount of cost

1646
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,270
and the overhead of the whole
operation. So and So NBC

1647
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:18,120
couldn't they couldn't figure
this out. And so these guys

1648
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,480
weren't running the programming,
and they had the biggest outlets

1649
01:41:21,480 --> 01:41:24,390
with the 1000 Watch. He had a
lot of people. And so they

1650
01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:27,150
weren't they weren't chart
giving the money per person,

1651
01:41:27,150 --> 01:41:30,780
they were just giving him to him
per station. CBS did it

1652
01:41:30,780 --> 01:41:33,540
differently. They did it on a
per person basis. And so the

1653
01:41:33,540 --> 01:41:36,240
guys made a lot of people
defected. A lot of NBC

1654
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:40,320
affiliates said screw you. I'm
gonna go with CBS. And I think

1655
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:45,930
they actually, to this day, CBS
has been smarter than NBC. And I

1656
01:41:45,930 --> 01:41:48,450
think this all started back then
because it guys apparently we're

1657
01:41:48,450 --> 01:41:51,420
Boneheads. And I think they
still are I think it's just a

1658
01:41:51,420 --> 01:41:52,470
bonehead network.

1659
01:41:53,910 --> 01:41:55,170
Take that into the staff.

1660
01:41:56,220 --> 01:42:00,990
Yeah, exactly. Anyway, so
there's a good book to read,

1661
01:42:00,990 --> 01:42:03,420
it's kind of just because it's
got a bunch of old radio info in

1662
01:42:03,420 --> 01:42:06,750
there. And it's how they, the
early days and how it all be

1663
01:42:06,780 --> 01:42:13,080
Howard coalesced into eventually
morphed into television, but

1664
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:17,190
they don't have that part since
the book was written in 35. The

1665
01:42:17,190 --> 01:42:18,360
future was bright.

1666
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:23,100
Well, we don't really have staff
per se, we do have a lot of

1667
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:26,850
people who help us out with a
lot of important things. Besides

1668
01:42:26,970 --> 01:42:29,760
producers who are part of the
global intelligence network who

1669
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:30,090
are saying,

1670
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:34,440
and we use volunteers,
volunteers like that people like

1671
01:42:34,440 --> 01:42:38,700
to volunteer, and a lot of
people and we give praise to

1672
01:42:38,700 --> 01:42:43,470
people, we we don't have any
trouble giving credit, where

1673
01:42:43,470 --> 01:42:45,780
credit is due to all the people
that help us

1674
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:51,450
avoid zero running the whole
infrastructure, which move

1675
01:42:51,450 --> 01:42:58,200
change actually when Mr. Oil
came in, and and get most laid,

1676
01:42:58,260 --> 01:43:02,910
they started to run the
infrastructure. And now that is

1677
01:43:03,060 --> 01:43:07,290
pretty much all run oil is 100%.
Run by by void zero. And then

1678
01:43:07,290 --> 01:43:09,450
the other ones, right, we
actually pay for the bandwidth

1679
01:43:09,450 --> 01:43:11,580
now, while we pay Yeah, we

1680
01:43:11,580 --> 01:43:18,270
have monthly bills for servers
and bandwidth. Void zero, hasn't

1681
01:43:18,300 --> 01:43:22,290
does not receive a salary. He's
Yes, of course, when things are

1682
01:43:22,290 --> 01:43:24,630
running, then you don't have to
do a lot. But he's always

1683
01:43:24,630 --> 01:43:27,630
improving and continuously
making things better and just

1684
01:43:27,630 --> 01:43:33,630
trying to up the ante. It was
really important. And it's

1685
01:43:33,660 --> 01:43:36,360
sometimes it's a shitty, shitty
job when stuff doesn't work,

1686
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,720
right, and chat rooms and
streams and all that stuff

1687
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:44,610
running. Then we have Paul
couture, who has set up the

1688
01:43:44,610 --> 01:43:48,390
Norwegian art generator for us,
which is you just did a revamp

1689
01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:50,190
of that. And that thing's been
running for a long time, which

1690
01:43:50,190 --> 01:43:55,230
is critical for our for album
art. And again, we like we like

1691
01:43:55,230 --> 01:43:57,510
to credit him we'd like to
credit the artists who do that.

1692
01:43:57,750 --> 01:44:00,930
All things that I don't know why
other people don't really do

1693
01:44:00,930 --> 01:44:03,420
stuff like that. I'm always
surprised it seemed like seems

1694
01:44:03,420 --> 01:44:07,830
like such such a no brainer. You
know, just some new artwork

1695
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:09,360
every single time. Why not?

1696
01:44:10,830 --> 01:44:14,220
Yeah, we have already said the
like to do I mean most artists

1697
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:19,320
who are into anything, they like
to produce art. I was talking

1698
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:22,140
watching, I went to the Adobe
thing and they had a bunch of

1699
01:44:22,140 --> 01:44:25,140
different artists and this one
guy did giving large speeches

1700
01:44:25,140 --> 01:44:27,330
about their stuff and how they
do and what they like to do and

1701
01:44:27,330 --> 01:44:32,160
how they use the products. And
this one guy says, I talked to

1702
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:34,890
my friend up the hill here, Bert
Monroy, who's a very famous

1703
01:44:35,550 --> 01:44:39,570
Photoshop guy. And the guy says,
you know, he was in school, this

1704
01:44:39,570 --> 01:44:42,960
kid was in school, and he was
drawing all the time when he was

1705
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:47,490
in the third fourth grade. And
he just, he drew a caricature, a

1706
01:44:47,490 --> 01:44:50,550
very nice one apparently was
teacher who caught him doing it

1707
01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:53,400
and sent him to the principal's
office, of course. So he got the

1708
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,790
principal takes a look at this
drawing, and he hires the kid to

1709
01:44:56,790 --> 01:45:01,470
do all the teachers. So the kid
ends up with than early gig and

1710
01:45:01,470 --> 01:45:05,220
in Monterey says to me, yeah,
when I was a kid, I was just I

1711
01:45:05,220 --> 01:45:08,100
was the same way in class, I was
just I wasn't listening, I was

1712
01:45:08,100 --> 01:45:13,800
just drawing 24/7 artists like
to produce art, right. And they

1713
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,560
need outlets. They need as many
as they can. Sure they like

1714
01:45:16,770 --> 01:45:20,250
paying gigs. But this is not you
know, we're not this is stuff

1715
01:45:20,250 --> 01:45:21,120
you knock out.

1716
01:45:21,150 --> 01:45:30,000
And the same goes for jingles.
Sir Jeff Smith, who's done an

1717
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,760
enormous amount of jingles for
us over the years.

1718
01:45:33,420 --> 01:45:35,790
And yes, and I and I want to
mention something about

1719
01:45:35,790 --> 01:45:39,990
creativity, if you're a writer
and artist, or the jingle maker,

1720
01:45:39,990 --> 01:45:43,620
whatever, you and I was told
this actually, a couple of times

1721
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,880
in my career, if you don't hold
on to anything, you cannot hold

1722
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,690
back you have to get every
creative thought or idea if you

1723
01:45:51,690 --> 01:45:53,790
want to write you have to, you
got to get it out of your

1724
01:45:53,790 --> 01:46:00,450
system, or you know, it sounds
corny, you get clogged up and

1725
01:46:00,480 --> 01:46:02,940
you will not you know, you all
of a sudden you're gonna just be

1726
01:46:02,940 --> 01:46:05,130
clogged up, you just can't You
can't do it, you got

1727
01:46:05,130 --> 01:46:09,420
constipation. You won't be able
to write you won't be able to do

1728
01:46:09,420 --> 01:46:12,780
that. So these guys, they they
most creative people know this.

1729
01:46:12,780 --> 01:46:16,080
And so they come up with a no
agenda jingle. And they can't

1730
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:20,250
keep it in their brain because
it just feels start clogging

1731
01:46:20,250 --> 01:46:24,150
them seriously. It's true, they
do the jingle and send it to us.

1732
01:46:24,630 --> 01:46:28,080
We have John Fletcher doing all
those shoutouts for us, which is

1733
01:46:28,290 --> 01:46:33,630
lectures. But he didn't think he
knew he had that skill. I mean,

1734
01:46:33,630 --> 01:46:35,820
yes, that skill is astonishing.

1735
01:46:36,570 --> 01:46:39,630
It really is. Really is quite
good. I mean

1736
01:46:39,630 --> 01:46:42,150
play a couple of them. You can't
nobody else can do this.

1737
01:46:42,300 --> 01:46:45,720
Let me just get to get into the
folder here but we have a lot.

1738
01:46:46,170 --> 01:46:52,380
So the the classic of course is
this one. We have another one we

1739
01:46:52,380 --> 01:47:00,450
like I'm sorry by mint, this one
and another favorite.

1740
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:06,420
No, this all stems from my
suggestion that somebody out

1741
01:47:06,420 --> 01:47:09,120
there do a whole gun using
Putin.

1742
01:47:09,390 --> 01:47:11,700
But I don't I don't think many
people know Hogan's Heroes

1743
01:47:11,700 --> 01:47:13,290
anymore but I know but

1744
01:47:13,290 --> 01:47:17,010
there's a few and and it is
mocked I mean the Simpsons mock

1745
01:47:17,010 --> 01:47:21,510
it and so they do that whole gun
you know, Sam son they've done

1746
01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:26,280
it all these it's not completely
unknown to people who watch TV.

1747
01:47:27,660 --> 01:47:31,740
And I think we got a number of
Putin's a bit but Fletcher stuff

1748
01:47:31,740 --> 01:47:35,340
is just so above and beyond
anybody else's is ridiculous.

1749
01:47:35,370 --> 01:47:35,940
And we don't

1750
01:47:35,940 --> 01:47:40,680
thank Secret Agent Paul enough.
Let me give you the list of

1751
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:45,090
jingles. He's done for us. Adams
pet peeve Clip of the Day F

1752
01:47:45,090 --> 01:47:49,170
cancer words matter open up Mr.
Curry opened up Mr. Dvorak.

1753
01:47:49,740 --> 01:47:55,470
Diane Sawyer drunk again. Just a
dude named Ben. Grande do pals

1754
01:47:55,470 --> 01:48:03,030
mockers jingle verbalization a
she'll alert. See donation for

1755
01:48:03,030 --> 01:48:06,840
Grand Duke David Foley. That guy
does a lot.

1756
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:13,650
Yeah. Yeah, they're all good,
too. Yeah, no, there's a lot of

1757
01:48:13,650 --> 01:48:14,430
talent out there.

1758
01:48:14,759 --> 01:48:17,099
There. And as you said, yeah,
no, got it. No, I knew I knew

1759
01:48:17,099 --> 01:48:17,759
you were gonna do it.

1760
01:48:19,260 --> 01:48:23,310
Oh, I think I think I'm trying
to I'm rewinding to see you

1761
01:48:23,340 --> 01:48:28,080
catch myself. Yeah, no, yeah,
no, yeah, I think you can catch

1762
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,860
it now. That was good. You
caught it early enough. Where it

1763
01:48:31,860 --> 01:48:34,350
was still in the memory banks it
was fading.

1764
01:48:34,740 --> 01:48:37,410
And why are why are we policing
each other again,

1765
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:43,320
we police each other because
we're susceptible to me memes

1766
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:48,810
that are in play in the society
at large that are used not to

1767
01:48:48,810 --> 01:48:54,450
really communicate but to kind
of either pad or or at some

1768
01:48:54,450 --> 01:48:58,110
point annoy. I'm not even sure
why we're doing it not you

1769
01:48:58,110 --> 01:49:01,530
mentioned it except that we both
know it's healthier not to be

1770
01:49:01,530 --> 01:49:06,360
using these. These phrases and
terms that are in common use.

1771
01:49:07,020 --> 01:49:09,360
And then they won't be in common
use is sometime in the future.

1772
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,000
And we're going to sound like
two guys talking to the 1930s

1773
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,820
Hey, you mug, a kind of thing?

1774
01:49:14,970 --> 01:49:18,540
Well, this kind of comes down to
what I think the real benefit of

1775
01:49:18,540 --> 01:49:21,300
the no agenda show is besides
giving good life, which always

1776
01:49:21,300 --> 01:49:24,450
hope if you're not laughing at
least once during an episode

1777
01:49:24,630 --> 01:49:25,860
that I feel we failed.

1778
01:49:26,970 --> 01:49:32,280
With the blues. Jonathan Davis
news. There's one thing you must

1779
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:37,350
remember no agenda in voting for
a healthy balanced news diet.

1780
01:49:37,380 --> 01:49:39,450
Try no agenda show.com

1781
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:45,660
This is really the what we leave
for society. I hope it's bad for

1782
01:49:45,660 --> 01:49:47,880
you what you're seeing on
television, reading in the

1783
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:51,450
newspaper reading online, it's
not healthy, to be continuously

1784
01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:55,470
provoked into fear or whatever
other motions are being played

1785
01:49:55,470 --> 01:50:00,300
upon you. And hopefully, I see
evidence of it and people are

1786
01:50:00,330 --> 01:50:04,560
not only enjoying our take on
things which is often a lot less

1787
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:08,400
scary when you know that hey
these guys may not really be

1788
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:11,040
beheading people or that kind of
you know they're not really

1789
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,880
gonna have these floating Toyota
Toyota cars that can fly or like

1790
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:15,990
a ship or anything like that

1791
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:19,020
you're gonna get yeah but also
got except for buy we're gonna

1792
01:50:19,020 --> 01:50:21,840
clip for the next show that's
one of these where they come on

1793
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:25,920
with this it's and it's our
government oh they the American

1794
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:29,160
soldiers have to be careful with
social looser the story I have

1795
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:33,210
the social networking because
the ISIS people are gonna kill

1796
01:50:33,210 --> 01:50:35,160
him in the street they're gonna
knock on the door and

1797
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:36,570
kill them and kill them.

1798
01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:40,770
And then you use the word kill
is like annihilate there's some

1799
01:50:41,190 --> 01:50:42,120
specific words.

1800
01:50:42,809 --> 01:50:45,419
I have the clip to so now
slaughter. Okay, where did you

1801
01:50:45,419 --> 01:50:46,169
get the clip from?

1802
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,890
You got it from I don't know,
France 24 Or

1803
01:50:50,010 --> 01:50:52,020
both? We should both clip it
because I have a different

1804
01:50:52,020 --> 01:50:53,760
source. I never watched France
24

1805
01:50:54,900 --> 01:50:57,300
Yeah, that's another thing we
do. I have different sources for

1806
01:50:57,300 --> 01:51:01,440
news. I my sources tend to be
our tea, France, 24 and

1807
01:51:01,440 --> 01:51:09,720
AlJazeera. Along with sometimes
I go to Fox and back the blaze.

1808
01:51:09,810 --> 01:51:12,060
That's because it's right in
between a couple of stations. I

1809
01:51:12,060 --> 01:51:15,030
started right there. I get it. I
want to see what Dana's talking

1810
01:51:15,030 --> 01:51:19,950
about channel placement is very
important. And I do see and and

1811
01:51:19,950 --> 01:51:20,700
I don't know what,

1812
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:24,540
but I see evidence of people
developing no agenda thinking,

1813
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:28,770
which in some cases is extremely
advanced. Certainly when

1814
01:51:30,030 --> 01:51:34,050
connecting movies. A lot of
people are getting very good at

1815
01:51:34,050 --> 01:51:38,340
that. But just understanding
that what is being said is is

1816
01:51:38,340 --> 01:51:45,330
bullcrap or manipulative and a
part of just an unhealthy diet.

1817
01:51:45,450 --> 01:51:48,660
And when people start just they
tweeted the email Oh, you know,

1818
01:51:48,690 --> 01:51:52,620
I've had my my no agenda
producer thinking cap on and I

1819
01:51:52,620 --> 01:51:54,240
realized that this is bullcrap.

1820
01:51:55,500 --> 01:51:59,340
And if you don't do that, I
think they will. And I think one

1821
01:51:59,340 --> 01:52:01,680
of the reasons we get so much
support because everyone knows

1822
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:05,190
how healthy it is. And if you
don't do that, you could end up

1823
01:52:05,190 --> 01:52:10,020
I have a clip. You could end up
like this poor bastard. The guy

1824
01:52:10,020 --> 01:52:15,930
who did the Kony movie. Yeah.
You hit it.

1825
01:52:17,670 --> 01:52:21,030
The man behind the popular
online video calling for the

1826
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:24,900
arrest of Ugandan rebel leader
Joseph Kony has been detained

1827
01:52:24,900 --> 01:52:29,370
and taken to hospital in the US.
Jason Russell and his charity

1828
01:52:29,370 --> 01:52:34,350
Invisible Children made the film
Kony 2012. Witnesses say he will

1829
01:52:34,350 --> 01:52:38,010
see naked and screaming at
drivers in San Diego in

1830
01:52:38,010 --> 01:52:41,400
California. His group says the
controversy surrounding the

1831
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:44,460
video has taken an emotional
toll on Russel.

1832
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,820
Several residents in the
neighborhood were very concerned

1833
01:52:47,970 --> 01:52:51,930
about a male that they described
as a white male in his late 20s.

1834
01:52:52,050 --> 01:52:55,530
That was acting strangely, there
were various stages of undress

1835
01:52:55,530 --> 01:52:57,900
that were described, you know
that he was wearing underwear

1836
01:52:57,900 --> 01:53:00,300
that he was naked, that kind of
thing, that he was running into

1837
01:53:00,300 --> 01:53:02,370
the roadway that he was
interfering with traffic

1838
01:53:02,370 --> 01:53:04,860
screaming and that kind of
thing. Officers responded to the

1839
01:53:04,860 --> 01:53:08,790
welfare check did contact the
man and he was no problem for

1840
01:53:08,790 --> 01:53:12,300
the police department. However,
during the evaluation with him,

1841
01:53:12,300 --> 01:53:15,150
we did learn that we probably
needed to take care of him so

1842
01:53:15,150 --> 01:53:18,570
the officers detained him and
transported him to a local

1843
01:53:18,570 --> 01:53:21,660
medical facility for further
evaluation and treatment.

1844
01:53:23,580 --> 01:53:26,370
Yeah, the Lord's Resistance
Army.

1845
01:53:28,020 --> 01:53:29,640
You know, that was gonna happen
to people.

1846
01:53:29,700 --> 01:53:34,080
Do you know that we've as we
have an Osprey now looking for

1847
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:35,790
him, so called looking for him?

1848
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,210
No, no, this and March.

1849
01:53:39,510 --> 01:53:43,980
I think we talked about it,
which was 2012 when the video

1850
01:53:43,980 --> 01:53:47,940
was Kony 2012 And we still
haven't found it. We've got

1851
01:53:48,480 --> 01:53:53,070
hundreds and hundreds of troops
looking for Osprey villains

1852
01:53:53,070 --> 01:53:55,710
Yeah, with the tilt rotor
aircraft. Aha.

1853
01:53:55,860 --> 01:54:03,450
Yeah, can't find me. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, see what else we got.

1854
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:10,350
There's a number of things we
seem to lose track of. This was

1855
01:54:10,380 --> 01:54:15,240
the I think this began in 2009.
So there's a 2009 clip and this

1856
01:54:15,540 --> 01:54:19,200
clip is the SF foodie event clip
and I'm going to set it up with

1857
01:54:20,190 --> 01:54:23,550
I heard this I said I don't
really quite remember maybe we

1858
01:54:23,550 --> 01:54:26,340
didn't even play this clip. But
they looked at this event is

1859
01:54:26,340 --> 01:54:28,380
still going on even though it
sounds like some sort of a

1860
01:54:28,380 --> 01:54:32,910
yuppie Fest and that Yep, yeah,
I'm sorry hipster Fest and

1861
01:54:32,940 --> 01:54:38,640
dreadful in many ways and but
it's something that you know, a

1862
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:43,890
lot of things we do start we try
to track give up on it because

1863
01:54:43,890 --> 01:54:47,070
it's a dud or dead end or
shouldn't have been brought up

1864
01:54:47,070 --> 01:54:49,110
in the first place. This may
actually be at one of those

1865
01:54:49,140 --> 01:54:51,390
types of clips should have been
brought up in the first place,

1866
01:54:51,390 --> 01:54:52,230
but played anyway.

1867
01:54:52,259 --> 01:54:56,009
That's right. This new event is
taking over the Bay Area's

1868
01:54:56,009 --> 01:54:59,969
foodie underground, with both
home and seasoned professionals.

1869
01:54:59,999 --> 01:55:03,539
chefs compete for the title of
San Francisco Food Wars

1870
01:55:03,539 --> 01:55:07,949
champion. And joining us in the
studio is SF Food Wars creator

1871
01:55:07,949 --> 01:55:11,669
and founder Jeanne che, along
with our own Bay Area bites

1872
01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:15,269
blogger Stephanie Rosenbaum,
whose cooking baking skills were

1873
01:55:15,269 --> 01:55:21,419
put to the test and I really
don't remember this really play

1874
01:55:21,449 --> 01:55:25,979
Food Wars latest competition
Nagini How did you get the Food

1875
01:55:25,979 --> 01:55:28,949
Wars concept off the ground,
this is the sixth event you've

1876
01:55:28,949 --> 01:55:31,709
had. This was the fifth event
this event be doing that we're

1877
01:55:31,709 --> 01:55:35,489
working on our six now. So
basically, San Francisco is such

1878
01:55:35,489 --> 01:55:38,309
a wonderful city for food in
general. But when it comes to

1879
01:55:38,309 --> 01:55:42,299
the events, they tend to either
be free and in general.

1880
01:55:42,929 --> 01:55:45,059
Anyway, they talked about it's a
food event where they get to

1881
01:55:45,059 --> 01:55:47,969
have a competition Who makes the
best cupcakes is the punchline.

1882
01:55:48,569 --> 01:55:52,619
Which is like cupcakes were like
the hipsters idea of what kind

1883
01:55:52,619 --> 01:55:55,649
of store to start, you know,
follow the cupcake thing. We

1884
01:55:55,649 --> 01:55:59,849
have a cupcake store in the
country failed the most of the

1885
01:55:59,849 --> 01:56:03,539
cupcake trucks with a bunch of
food trucks. We have cupcakes,

1886
01:56:03,539 --> 01:56:07,319
and we have them here. Cakes was
the the cupcake. And so it's a

1887
01:56:07,499 --> 01:56:08,729
starch bomb.

1888
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:13,140
But how does this fit into? This
is something that we didn't talk

1889
01:56:13,140 --> 01:56:16,020
about it or we did and went away
and probably for good reason.

1890
01:56:16,890 --> 01:56:20,790
That's what I'm thinking.
Alright, well, that was a dud.

1891
01:56:21,150 --> 01:56:23,250
So let's see, what are we oh,
here's one. Here's one. This is

1892
01:56:23,250 --> 01:56:27,030
another thing that we kind of
talked about. It kind of came in

1893
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:29,850
when it's like every other bull
crap thing we've seen in this

1894
01:56:29,850 --> 01:56:32,880
country from Hands Across
America, which by the way, was

1895
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:37,320
going to end homelessness back
in 2002. I don't know when that

1896
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:42,270
was, but it was a while ago.
2000 ads across America. Yeah, I

1897
01:56:42,270 --> 01:56:46,500
remember. Yeah. Yeah, I was
gonna end homelessness. But then

1898
01:56:46,500 --> 01:56:50,070
there's this one, which is just
a stupid. And you and I think

1899
01:56:50,070 --> 01:56:52,200
this is still in play, but we
don't talk about it much

1900
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:53,790
anymore. Earth Hour?

1901
01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:58,140
Oh, yes. This was a couple of
years this this one on March

1902
01:56:58,140 --> 01:56:59,730
27 8:30pm.

1903
01:56:59,820 --> 01:57:03,270
millions around the world will
turn off their lights for one

1904
01:57:03,630 --> 01:57:06,390
hour all over the world. No.

1905
01:57:07,980 --> 01:57:12,210
It's time for America to lead on
clean technologies and clean

1906
01:57:12,210 --> 01:57:16,590
jobs. Because we care about our
planet, and our country. Let the

1907
01:57:16,590 --> 01:57:20,340
world know you want action on
climate change turnout for

1908
01:57:20,340 --> 01:57:31,050
Earth, our simple. Earth Hour,
march 27 8:30pm. To the gate to

1909
01:57:31,050 --> 01:57:34,500
the beat to the cloud with an
oldie but goodie, I

1910
01:57:39,090 --> 01:57:43,080
think we've correctly identified
that this is an initiative that

1911
01:57:43,110 --> 01:57:48,900
no longer works or is they have
the focus and communication

1912
01:57:48,900 --> 01:57:53,070
skills have had to shift to pull
this one over on people that now

1913
01:57:53,070 --> 01:57:57,690
that there's no longer just off
a few outlets. And we are of

1914
01:57:57,690 --> 01:58:03,510
course, very critical of the
manmade global warming, manmade

1915
01:58:03,510 --> 01:58:09,330
climate change 400 parts per
million carbon pollution, poison

1916
01:58:09,330 --> 01:58:14,820
gas. And this is why we words
matter that it does matter. We

1917
01:58:14,850 --> 01:58:19,530
this is probably why we're so
anal about our own use of words.

1918
01:58:20,490 --> 01:58:23,700
They matter. Yeah, they could be
they really, really matter. And

1919
01:58:23,790 --> 01:58:30,180
to go from carbon dioxide, is
creating greenhouse gas to it is

1920
01:58:30,180 --> 01:58:33,120
poison gas is an unbelievable
leap.

1921
01:58:33,570 --> 01:58:37,800
It's astonishing. Yes. And they
also would do the words thing, I

1922
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:43,110
really was happy when the public
speaker sent us an email saying,

1923
01:58:43,140 --> 01:58:46,200
you know, you guys are always
hung up on saying this or using

1924
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:49,320
the word essentially or
basically you started with

1925
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:53,760
basically start with basically
yeah, and then we the, ya know,

1926
01:58:53,790 --> 01:58:58,500
thing was, maybe I can now catch
which is good at some of these

1927
01:58:58,500 --> 01:58:58,830
other

1928
01:58:59,070 --> 01:59:00,930
well, it was awesome, amazing.

1929
01:59:02,430 --> 01:59:06,660
Easy to stop. But you want when
you start noticing it or fact of

1930
01:59:06,660 --> 01:59:09,990
the matter, which is now truth
of the matter. You start hearing

1931
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:12,330
it when you were listening to
other when you're watching news,

1932
01:59:12,330 --> 01:59:14,160
it's easy. The fact of the
matter the fact of the matter,

1933
01:59:14,310 --> 01:59:17,580
and it's a matter it is it is a
programmatic word factor the

1934
01:59:17,670 --> 01:59:21,420
facts, just the use of the word
fact which I believe really, if

1935
01:59:21,420 --> 01:59:24,330
we trace it really started with
the the Obama administration

1936
01:59:24,330 --> 01:59:27,630
really, really pushed that
through fact, it's a fact this

1937
01:59:27,630 --> 01:59:30,030
is the fact that the fact the
facts are in fact everything was

1938
01:59:30,030 --> 01:59:35,040
fat and listen, look. Look,
listen, look not Yeah, look,

1939
01:59:35,070 --> 01:59:36,330
look, and listen. Wow,

1940
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:39,060
we could do a whole show on just
those things that we've noticed.

1941
01:59:39,780 --> 01:59:44,160
And they probably get speaker,
producer, he says this He likes

1942
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,040
this because he's as someone who
speaks a lot of guests he does a

1943
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:50,850
lot of those of these types of
the kind of popular speeches

1944
01:59:50,850 --> 01:59:54,750
that are given. He needs to be
aware of this too because he

1945
01:59:54,750 --> 01:59:57,750
can't be up there saying you
know, these commonplace cut

1946
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:00,090
these common isms or whatever
you want to call them. I

1947
02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:02,910
constantly sounded like an
idiot. It's amazing. It's

1948
02:00:02,910 --> 02:00:07,320
amazing. It's amazing. Now, if
we go back far enough, we used

1949
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:11,220
to also attack now we just kind
of like, I think it's just a

1950
02:00:11,220 --> 02:00:14,910
running punch line now Taylor
Swift Yes.

1951
02:00:14,939 --> 02:00:18,929
Yeah, we you're on. You're on a
Taylor Swift very early on.

1952
02:00:19,079 --> 02:00:21,509
Yes. That's when I discovered
her father was an investment

1953
02:00:21,509 --> 02:00:25,469
banker for Merrill Lynch and he
moves to Memphis. And he did

1954
02:00:25,469 --> 02:00:27,989
personally he was a personal one
of the guys who did the big

1955
02:00:27,989 --> 02:00:30,599
accounts and other he'd have
like a Rockefeller or someone,

1956
02:00:30,959 --> 02:00:33,809
and he would handle the what the
guy with the big money, the big

1957
02:00:33,809 --> 02:00:37,109
money accounts. And so when he
moved to Memphis, my belief was

1958
02:00:37,109 --> 02:00:39,929
that he took over some big money
accounts in the music industry

1959
02:00:39,929 --> 02:00:43,049
and could get his daughter on
the fast track, which he did.

1960
02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:48,720
Is this. Is it the clip of her
talking about noodling? Yes. So

1961
02:00:48,750 --> 02:00:50,130
interesting show, she

1962
02:00:50,130 --> 02:00:54,900
got on like, 21, she got on some
special she's like 817 It was it

1963
02:00:54,900 --> 02:00:58,740
was right. And you see special
on these specials as the whole

1964
02:00:58,740 --> 02:01:02,310
show. And I'm thinking this is
some sort of public relations

1965
02:01:02,310 --> 02:01:06,750
thing. That is outrageous. And
it's just, it's a, what they in

1966
02:01:06,750 --> 02:01:11,460
the, in the print media, they
call these blow jobs

1967
02:01:11,490 --> 02:01:14,790
straight. But Taylor's strive
for perfection, only makes the

1968
02:01:14,790 --> 02:01:18,150
people who work with this young
star, respect her that much

1969
02:01:18,150 --> 02:01:19,890
more. Let's go

1970
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:27,570
there's been times where I've
played a solo, and then she'll

1971
02:01:27,570 --> 02:01:29,670
say, Well, can you kind of do
this and she'll sing me and

1972
02:01:29,670 --> 02:01:33,900
melody, I'll incorporate that
and and that's very impressive

1973
02:01:33,900 --> 02:01:34,920
for someone her age

1974
02:01:41,100 --> 02:01:44,400
the problem that I was having
with a solo is that it like it's

1975
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:50,190
getting a little noodley like
I'd rather it be like near

1976
02:02:02,190 --> 02:02:07,110
less notes, that'd be great.
Let's try it again.

1977
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:16,050
I remember ridiculing this. And
I, I think I was wrong to

1978
02:02:16,050 --> 02:02:16,740
ridicule.

1979
02:02:17,490 --> 02:02:23,280
Well, we were transitionary we
still ridicule to an extreme,

1980
02:02:23,340 --> 02:02:23,850
but I actually

1981
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:26,910
actually thought she sucked. I
actually felt it was bad. I had

1982
02:02:27,180 --> 02:02:31,110
Anthropy against him now that I
hear that she I

1983
02:02:31,110 --> 02:02:38,430
don't think she's I admire her
as a as a business genius. And a

1984
02:02:38,430 --> 02:02:40,290
marketing referee.

1985
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:44,400
I like her Poppy songs. I like
that. I don't like the outfit.

1986
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:45,210
I'm like the dress.

1987
02:02:46,230 --> 02:02:49,440
So marketing, that's fine. I
think she dresses well. I like

1988
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:52,530
chance. She takes advantage of
her height. She's very model

1989
02:02:52,530 --> 02:02:56,460
ish. It changes your face
looking hair all the time. So

1990
02:02:56,460 --> 02:03:01,650
she's got a kind of like a low
end version of Gaga in terms of

1991
02:03:01,650 --> 02:03:04,770
like changing your look. Not you
didn't go crazy. Then we're

1992
02:03:04,770 --> 02:03:08,550
meet. But yeah, no, I think
she's she's Yeah, no, but

1993
02:03:08,550 --> 02:03:09,450
he's did it again.

1994
02:03:12,930 --> 02:03:18,270
Wow, okay. Well, guy could get
us there. Game. One, I'm trying

1995
02:03:18,270 --> 02:03:20,460
to think of some way you catch
it. You're catching it earlier

1996
02:03:20,460 --> 02:03:21,780
and I can go on was kept trying
to

1997
02:03:21,780 --> 02:03:25,410
understand why what is the
thought process behind Do I

1998
02:03:25,470 --> 02:03:30,930
just smack my lips? I think I
know. We're gonna be so

1999
02:03:30,930 --> 02:03:31,650
paralyzed.

2000
02:03:31,890 --> 02:03:32,160
It's

2001
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:34,710
it's transition.

2002
02:03:34,890 --> 02:03:37,920
Yeah, it's grabbing attention.
It's transitioning in the

2003
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:38,460
conversation.

2004
02:03:38,490 --> 02:03:45,450
It's saying it's a green. Yes.
And then is this stupid? Let's

2005
02:03:46,050 --> 02:03:49,830
back it up and say this is a
very stupid thing to do ever

2006
02:03:49,830 --> 02:03:53,070
use. No. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, or
whatever it

2007
02:03:53,070 --> 02:03:55,620
is. So I've been teaching my I
would say a lot of No, no, no,

2008
02:03:55,620 --> 02:03:58,290
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
They heard that in the very

2009
02:03:58,290 --> 02:04:00,600
first clip where I'm trying to
tell you something. I would No,

2010
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:02,910
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I'm the no no guy.

2011
02:04:03,090 --> 02:04:05,040
Yeah, you're the no no guy. I'm
the Yeah, yeah. Try

2012
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:08,010
not to do it together. Yeah,
yeah. No, no. Yeah, exactly.

2013
02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:12,990
But no, I did. I did. It's a way
of transitioning. And there's

2014
02:04:12,990 --> 02:04:15,330
all kinds of different ways and
apparently that one I got stuck

2015
02:04:15,330 --> 02:04:18,960
on recently. I'm not sure where
it came from. But okay, do it.

2016
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:21,570
You can stop me the next few
times. I will eventually be able

2017
02:04:21,570 --> 02:04:24,510
to hear it before as I say it.
Yes. You will. Remember when I

2018
02:04:24,510 --> 02:04:30,360
was like doing it? Yeah. That's
pretty amazing. I know. That'll

2019
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:34,590
moment that moment will happen
with Yeah, no. Well, anyway, she

2020
02:04:34,590 --> 02:04:35,580
these things are important.

2021
02:04:35,670 --> 02:04:42,570
She is a genius of some sort.
And really is a true talent in

2022
02:04:42,570 --> 02:04:45,120
that regard. I don't like her
songs. I think they're boring. I

2023
02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:47,310
don't do that. I can't even
think of one. I can't even think

2024
02:04:47,310 --> 02:04:50,940
of a melody to one. She does not
create memorable music.

2025
02:04:51,330 --> 02:04:53,370
Well, she's no Green Day, that's
for sure.

2026
02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:57,360
I can think of like a half dozen
Green Day songs, right. All

2027
02:04:57,360 --> 02:05:01,290
right, six. Now let's start now
The guy who said I could think

2028
02:05:01,290 --> 02:05:04,650
of half a half a dozen American
Idiot comes right to mind.

2029
02:05:05,070 --> 02:05:07,470
That's one and five others.

2030
02:05:09,300 --> 02:05:12,780
Very good. Well, I think I was
probably around just by the

2031
02:05:12,780 --> 02:05:16,800
whole Rich Dad thing and you
know, moving to Nashville, and

2032
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:19,650
then you know, Well, damn, it
worked.

2033
02:05:21,540 --> 02:05:24,840
Well it was bound to work. And
once you got that special at

2034
02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:29,400
that early age, the ABC gave it
up all that time to her. You

2035
02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:32,190
knew it it was done it was over
was it was a done deal. She's

2036
02:05:32,190 --> 02:05:35,280
gonna be like a big hit. But it
doesn't mean I don't think she's

2037
02:05:35,310 --> 02:05:38,970
done. You know, she could have
been a big hit and actually made

2038
02:05:38,970 --> 02:05:41,640
some decent songs but she didn't
I don't think I don't know of

2039
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:42,060
any.

2040
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:45,780
Do you think we How long do you
think we can continue to create

2041
02:05:45,810 --> 02:05:47,550
the show and continue to do it?

2042
02:05:48,810 --> 02:05:52,530
Well, it says it writes itself
and so far as the media is

2043
02:05:52,530 --> 02:05:58,530
concerned, and it keeps coming
at us. And it's it's not you

2044
02:05:58,530 --> 02:06:00,120
never saw the Larry David show.

2045
02:06:00,450 --> 02:06:03,300
I tried I couldn't get into it
didn't know you can't

2046
02:06:03,300 --> 02:06:06,330
get into it. It takes you have
to you can't I hated that show.

2047
02:06:06,750 --> 02:06:10,830
Until like the last two seasons.
When you could get into it. You

2048
02:06:10,830 --> 02:06:13,230
can finally he would finally
approachable and you could get

2049
02:06:13,290 --> 02:06:16,770
into the show deeply into the
show. And then you could go back

2050
02:06:16,860 --> 02:06:19,830
and it was all good. Very
strange phenomenon in that

2051
02:06:19,830 --> 02:06:22,620
regard. Okay. But this guy he
was he's want to create a

2052
02:06:22,620 --> 02:06:27,270
Seinfeld and he is essentially a
neurotic guy who gets irked by

2053
02:06:27,270 --> 02:06:31,380
stuff. Every just irked. He's
irked. He's just like an act.

2054
02:06:31,380 --> 02:06:34,620
Yeah, little things bother him.
And then he takes it out. And

2055
02:06:34,620 --> 02:06:41,370
you know, he puts it on paper
and mocks in various ways. And

2056
02:06:41,370 --> 02:06:43,530
he can't each stop doing the
show. He's done a couple of

2057
02:06:43,530 --> 02:06:46,290
movies, the show hasn't been on
for two or three years. He but

2058
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:50,250
it was after Seinfeld that he
had to do this show is very

2059
02:06:50,250 --> 02:06:53,220
dangerous show because he you
get built up as the clogged

2060
02:06:53,220 --> 02:06:56,070
effect they talked about
earlier. He's gonna be so

2061
02:06:56,070 --> 02:06:58,890
clogged up with He has done
nothing on social media,

2062
02:06:58,890 --> 02:07:02,700
Facebook, selfies, all these new
things have happened since he

2063
02:07:02,700 --> 02:07:06,840
started doing the show. And so
the show will return. This is

2064
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:11,820
the same thing with us. There's
so much material that is created

2065
02:07:11,820 --> 02:07:15,720
by the mass media and the public
and the society itself, that we

2066
02:07:15,780 --> 02:07:19,230
probably could do the show
forever. Because it never ends.

2067
02:07:19,410 --> 02:07:20,790
It's just we're deluded.

2068
02:07:22,260 --> 02:07:24,540
Is there ever a moment that you
got up and thought Oh, I gotta

2069
02:07:24,540 --> 02:07:26,430
do the show? Yeah, really?

2070
02:07:27,090 --> 02:07:31,680
Yeah. I've never had that. I've
had a couple of times. Gotta do

2071
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:34,800
the show was mainly because I
didn't get enough sleep. Right?

2072
02:07:35,790 --> 02:07:42,420
I've thought about killing me.
No, no, I haven't thought about

2073
02:07:42,420 --> 02:07:48,570
that. I figured that Mickey take
care of that. I've thought about

2074
02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:52,110
the benefits of doing the show
which is that I get a lot out of

2075
02:07:52,110 --> 02:07:57,240
the show I find myself thinking
more clearly. And so that's as

2076
02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:59,490
far as I'm concerned. As long as
that continues I wouldn't want

2077
02:07:59,490 --> 02:08:02,070
to stop doing the show because I
know that I would start to fall

2078
02:08:02,070 --> 02:08:06,690
back into into old ways of it
could be kind of be that

2079
02:08:06,690 --> 02:08:09,330
wouldn't happen as much but I'd
be suckered into something or

2080
02:08:09,330 --> 02:08:13,230
other. Oh, you believe that? You
know, like the like the woman in

2081
02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:20,310
that went to Oregon to kill
herself then we discovered it

2082
02:08:20,310 --> 02:08:24,090
with Britney Britney Britney got
Kaiser Permanente and the new we

2083
02:08:24,090 --> 02:08:27,810
deconstructed it I probably
would have just ignored the

2084
02:08:27,810 --> 02:08:29,970
story you know what actually
brought it up I brought up the

2085
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:34,770
Kaiser the fact that Kaiser
likes to a relate to that to

2086
02:08:34,770 --> 02:08:37,710
your mom. Yeah, my mom's to try
to get her out of there just

2087
02:08:37,740 --> 02:08:42,690
make me pay what they are
legally obligated to pay. That

2088
02:08:42,690 --> 02:08:47,250
doesn't happen without the show
right? Now is it important

2089
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:51,570
though I really give a shit that
Britney's up they're not up to

2090
02:08:51,570 --> 02:08:55,320
our Kaiser gets to get a better
deal because he's getting toxic

2091
02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:57,810
people into killing themselves
instead instead of them having

2092
02:08:57,810 --> 02:09:02,160
to care for them or the death
panels happen I don't know maybe

2093
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:04,770
it's who gets who gives a shit I
got other things to worry about.

2094
02:09:05,130 --> 02:09:10,230
But I feel better knowing that
yes, you'll feel better knowing

2095
02:09:10,230 --> 02:09:14,220
that this scam that these creeps
are doing this I think it just

2096
02:09:14,250 --> 02:09:15,600
makes me a better citizen

2097
02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:23,280
and that that's maybe my maybe
the real question why does it

2098
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:23,730
work?

2099
02:09:24,389 --> 02:09:27,269
And I well I think if thing it
makes you feel like a better

2100
02:09:27,269 --> 02:09:30,299
citizen I think it's important
that people feel that way. When

2101
02:09:30,299 --> 02:09:33,629
you say I remember a long time
ago that you went to see Uncle

2102
02:09:33,629 --> 02:09:39,329
Don and it was mag right Donna
mag Yeah, she took you aside she

2103
02:09:39,329 --> 02:09:40,949
listened to the show I guess
once in a while.

2104
02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:43,710
That was the first Hot Pockets
tour and we did the show from

2105
02:09:43,710 --> 02:09:47,460
their driveway with the with the
RV from Baron as Maggie.

2106
02:09:49,020 --> 02:09:51,870
She said to you you know you
guys are patriots.

2107
02:09:51,900 --> 02:09:54,570
Yes Yeah, she she had taken
notes. She had a notepad said

2108
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:56,550
Yeah, patriots is exactly what
she said.

2109
02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:01,200
And I think what we're gonna be
we're not paid isn't any sense

2110
02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:05,040
of you know, John Payne or
Thomas Jefferson. But I think in

2111
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:09,060
terms of like, getting people to
think the way the two of us

2112
02:10:09,060 --> 02:10:11,520
could in a combination
combinatorial way, in other

2113
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:14,430
words, the way we think
together, I think is such a

2114
02:10:14,430 --> 02:10:18,570
healthy thing. I think that's
patriotic. I think it's healthy,

2115
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:21,270
to have to see things as they
really are.

2116
02:10:22,109 --> 02:10:26,879
And is that why it's working? Is
that why we are able to sustain

2117
02:10:26,879 --> 02:10:29,639
doing this? Because yeah, I feel
healthier. My cousin's,

2118
02:10:30,120 --> 02:10:33,540
they feel better. They, they
have some enlightenment, because

2119
02:10:33,540 --> 02:10:37,050
every show, we got some crazy
thing we say that goes, that

2120
02:10:37,050 --> 02:10:40,500
they were they go to the thing
to themselves? Wow, I would have

2121
02:10:40,500 --> 02:10:43,080
never thought of that. Now, a
lot of the things that, you

2122
02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:46,320
know, when I as a writer, when
I'm writing a lot of stuff,

2123
02:10:46,320 --> 02:10:49,470
which is contrarian, a lot of
people will say I, you know, I

2124
02:10:49,470 --> 02:10:52,080
was thinking that, but I
couldn't put it in those words.

2125
02:10:52,110 --> 02:10:55,800
And I'm complimented for saying
what people are writing what

2126
02:10:55,800 --> 02:11:00,600
people think, in words that make
a lot of sense. We do a little

2127
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:04,680
of that, not as much as
Revelation, which is beyond

2128
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:08,040
that. It's like, I would have
never thought of that. And it

2129
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:12,420
happened with some stuff you
bring up, I will say, I will not

2130
02:11:12,420 --> 02:11:15,810
I would have never thought it's
not like, oh, he really that's

2131
02:11:15,810 --> 02:11:19,470
what I'm thinking. But he's
putting it in words that I that

2132
02:11:19,470 --> 02:11:22,200
I couldn't put it in. And he's
already that's what you've done.

2133
02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:26,850
No. It's complete revelation,
which is an revelatory material

2134
02:11:26,850 --> 02:11:30,420
is uplifting. I think that's why
people liked the show so much,

2135
02:11:30,420 --> 02:11:34,200
because you get uplifted by us,
like a door has been opened that

2136
02:11:34,200 --> 02:11:38,610
you didn't even know is there.
Okay. Now I'll take that it's a

2137
02:11:38,610 --> 02:11:42,420
little preachy, but it's, I
think, is what it is. And that's

2138
02:11:42,420 --> 02:11:44,700
what I think is important. And
that's what's kind of cool about

2139
02:11:44,700 --> 02:11:48,870
it, as opposed to just stating
the obvious, or one of the

2140
02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:52,050
things I always thought the show
was mostly about was that people

2141
02:11:52,050 --> 02:11:54,240
were kind of they scratched it
because you know, this doesn't

2142
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:57,750
sound right. And then we
explained that it doesn't sound

2143
02:11:57,750 --> 02:12:00,900
right, because not right, here's
what it is. And they Ah, yeah,

2144
02:12:00,930 --> 02:12:05,550
that's exactly it. That's
different than opening a door.

2145
02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:06,750
Right?

2146
02:12:08,100 --> 02:12:12,570
We also really have we really,
truly, really don't have an

2147
02:12:12,570 --> 02:12:18,000
agenda. people accuse us of me,
certainly. We I really don't

2148
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:21,360
give a shit. I like it. I like
to, like doing it.

2149
02:12:22,590 --> 02:12:25,560
I don't know, I don't think we
have you know, our agenda is to,

2150
02:12:25,740 --> 02:12:28,710
you know, Revelations,
Revelations. It's a revelatory

2151
02:12:28,710 --> 02:12:32,010
thing. That's the but that's not
an agenda. It's just like a

2152
02:12:32,010 --> 02:12:34,710
happenstance. So I don't know,
we don't have an agenda. We're

2153
02:12:34,710 --> 02:12:39,690
not Republicans or not
Democrats. I am an independent.

2154
02:12:40,050 --> 02:12:46,920
And I consider myself a
libertarian. And he always got

2155
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:50,430
these clips from the show to go
with, it turns out that Charles

2156
02:12:50,430 --> 02:12:57,120
Koch, who was an early member of
the John Birch Society, got

2157
02:12:57,120 --> 02:13:00,090
kicked out of the Birch Society
because he ran into a

2158
02:13:00,090 --> 02:13:04,920
libertarian thinker, and became
not only a staunch libertarian,

2159
02:13:05,220 --> 02:13:08,670
but one of the biggest
supporters of the anti Vietnam

2160
02:13:08,670 --> 02:13:12,450
War movement. Now, which puts
him on the camp of the left, and

2161
02:13:12,450 --> 02:13:16,440
they should be appreciated as
such. But instead, he's reviled

2162
02:13:16,860 --> 02:13:23,610
by the left, when he's really
have them. Is that is that the

2163
02:13:23,610 --> 02:13:26,100
same guy who are very suspicious
about these guys? Is

2164
02:13:26,100 --> 02:13:31,710
that the same guy who pumps $25
million a year into PBS? Yeah.

2165
02:13:32,400 --> 02:13:36,060
Well, maybe that's their whole,
their whole job is to be to look

2166
02:13:36,060 --> 02:13:36,570
evil.

2167
02:13:37,620 --> 02:13:40,650
I have no idea what the I think
it's just because they have an

2168
02:13:40,650 --> 02:13:45,960
oil company. That's all it is.
These guys hate oil. And they

2169
02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:48,630
want green, green, green, and
they're going to shove it down

2170
02:13:48,630 --> 02:13:51,390
your throat with any technique
they can. And it's going

2171
02:13:51,390 --> 02:13:54,150
nowhere, as we heard in even the
clip from years ago,

2172
02:13:54,150 --> 02:13:57,000
they're super rich. It's always
fun to bang against.

2173
02:13:57,480 --> 02:14:01,950
Rich or bad. Yeah. I mean, one
of the brothers built an entire

2174
02:14:01,950 --> 02:14:06,150
ghost town in the middle of
nowhere, and then we're in

2175
02:14:06,150 --> 02:14:10,170
Colorado, it's still there. It's
like, you can't go there. It's

2176
02:14:10,170 --> 02:14:14,220
all fenced off. But you can get
you some I'm actually working on

2177
02:14:14,220 --> 02:14:19,380
this, try to get an invite to go
in there and take some photos.

2178
02:14:19,620 --> 02:14:23,760
But you can look it up Coke, put
Koch brothers ghost town in

2179
02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:25,020
Google and you'll find it.

2180
02:14:25,740 --> 02:14:30,930
Well, as we start to kind of
wind things down. I am a little

2181
02:14:30,930 --> 02:14:37,770
concerned about my own future,
as it appears that there will

2182
02:14:37,770 --> 02:14:42,030
come a day which you have
consistently predicted when

2183
02:14:42,030 --> 02:14:46,680
certain things will just not be
able to be said on a podcast

2184
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:49,710
that is received in the
traditional manner through the

2185
02:14:49,710 --> 02:14:53,730
internet through ISPs that may
or may not have to deem

2186
02:14:53,730 --> 02:14:58,170
something lawful or legal. I do
worry about that.

2187
02:15:00,210 --> 02:15:02,940
I think it's premature to worry
about it, but it's something you

2188
02:15:02,940 --> 02:15:09,540
should worry about eventually.
And I think your your, I think

2189
02:15:09,570 --> 02:15:12,630
they're going to crack down on
the cussing, they're going to

2190
02:15:12,630 --> 02:15:17,250
crack down on porn, they're
going to crack down on content,

2191
02:15:17,700 --> 02:15:21,030
and you will need a license or
even Luckily, my background I

2192
02:15:21,030 --> 02:15:23,370
think allows me to get most of
these things because I have

2193
02:15:23,700 --> 02:15:28,200
enough credibility as a real
journalist that I can pass the

2194
02:15:28,200 --> 02:15:30,780
test for a lot of these things
that are going to eventually

2195
02:15:30,780 --> 02:15:35,790
appear. And yeah, I think
there's gonna this is what net

2196
02:15:35,790 --> 02:15:39,960
neutrality is going to lead to
the FCC, the government is going

2197
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:42,990
to end up with controlling the
what they feel they should

2198
02:15:42,990 --> 02:15:49,650
control which is the information
streams. thing from from I don't

2199
02:15:49,650 --> 02:15:52,350
know where you could do it from
actually there's no place left

2200
02:15:52,350 --> 02:15:56,730
in the world. I mean, Snowden is
has to hide himself in Russia,

2201
02:15:57,240 --> 02:16:00,750
which is obviously caused all
these issues. There's no place

2202
02:16:00,750 --> 02:16:05,670
you can go you can go offshore.
Canada, maybe

2203
02:16:06,660 --> 02:16:11,280
it won't make any difference
because the blockage or whatever

2204
02:16:11,280 --> 02:16:14,310
they'll call it, blockage
blocking will be done at a local

2205
02:16:14,310 --> 02:16:17,010
level. Does it doesn't matter
where you're doing it from? I

2206
02:16:17,010 --> 02:16:20,340
just worry about it. And then
what is my future by though I

2207
02:16:20,370 --> 02:16:27,090
probably need to get something
going. Okay. 15 more years.

2208
02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:28,680
Do you have to start early

2209
02:16:29,519 --> 02:16:32,759
15 more years of this show? And
I'm 65 and then I stopped and

2210
02:16:32,759 --> 02:16:34,379
then what then dog food?

2211
02:16:35,340 --> 02:16:40,500
Now Mickey will probably murder
you by the end. So I'm not

2212
02:16:40,500 --> 02:16:41,100
concerned.

2213
02:16:42,389 --> 02:16:47,639
Or Yeah. Or one of us. croaks.
Well, that can

2214
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:51,180
happen to that would suck. Yeah,
that would it would limit the

2215
02:16:51,240 --> 02:16:53,850
opportunities for the show.
Well, I think you should do a

2216
02:16:53,850 --> 02:16:59,220
product anyway, okay.

2217
02:17:00,330 --> 02:17:03,420
I just I have fears that's all
I'm just saying. I have fears.

2218
02:17:03,540 --> 02:17:09,630
It's fine fears. Yeah. Easy for
you to say. Do you have real

2219
02:17:09,630 --> 02:17:10,020
estate?

2220
02:17:10,620 --> 02:17:13,290
I do have real estate I can
always fall back on real where I

2221
02:17:13,320 --> 02:17:17,580
tell everyone to get real
estate. The minute we get a

2222
02:17:17,610 --> 02:17:20,190
little depressing clip here
which I think no, that's don't

2223
02:17:20,190 --> 02:17:25,560
do that. Let's play that idiot
Geraldo Rivera who makes more

2224
02:17:25,560 --> 02:17:30,210
money than we do. And on the
marijuana clip number two,

2225
02:17:31,020 --> 02:17:34,230
are you feeling now? You know,
the opposition will build

2226
02:17:34,230 --> 02:17:37,740
however they felt about it a
year ago that was before a year

2227
02:17:37,740 --> 02:17:42,150
of some pretty seedy experience
with the pot shops opening close

2228
02:17:42,150 --> 02:17:45,810
to schools and you know some
rowdiness outside. I mean, you

2229
02:17:45,810 --> 02:17:50,070
know, it's that maybe the film
is off the bud. Yeah, this

2230
02:17:52,290 --> 02:17:55,800
is the this is still baffling to
me why California can't pass the

2231
02:17:55,800 --> 02:17:57,510
marijuana initiative.

2232
02:17:58,410 --> 02:18:02,490
I've always liked that we have a
couple of skills that we can

2233
02:18:02,490 --> 02:18:05,610
always really talk about with
authority aviation being one

2234
02:18:05,640 --> 02:18:09,060
that's one I can cover pretty
well. Yeah. Marijuana being the

2235
02:18:09,060 --> 02:18:09,600
other one.

2236
02:18:12,180 --> 02:18:15,270
Talking about that pretty well.
Yeah, yeah.

2237
02:18:15,570 --> 02:18:20,130
And you know, you have your your
background in as a scientist and

2238
02:18:20,460 --> 02:18:23,100
air pollution controller or

2239
02:18:23,459 --> 02:18:25,319
refining, oil refining fine.

2240
02:18:25,350 --> 02:18:29,340
Yep. Which is just to throw all
the way a lot of factories

2241
02:18:29,339 --> 02:18:31,439
when I was a kid, lots of
factors. I've worked for Ford

2242
02:18:31,439 --> 02:18:34,349
Motor Company. I've worked for
Trammell Beal was an inspector

2243
02:18:34,559 --> 02:18:37,499
done a lot, because I could do a
lot back in the day. Now. They

2244
02:18:37,499 --> 02:18:40,169
don't have any opportunities.
Kids are all noodle boys. It has

2245
02:18:40,169 --> 02:18:44,879
nothing to do some work in a
noodle factory. Exactly. Now, I

2246
02:18:44,879 --> 02:18:48,419
do have one clip I like to get
out of the way. This is Charlie

2247
02:18:48,419 --> 02:18:51,959
Rose. This was the clip that we
this one we realized that

2248
02:18:51,959 --> 02:18:56,489
Charlie Rose is kind of a creepy
guy in some ways. And when it

2249
02:18:56,489 --> 02:19:00,179
came to sex, do we want to do
it? This is a clip that made us

2250
02:19:00,179 --> 02:19:03,509
realize he's obviously having an
affair with somebody

2251
02:19:03,630 --> 02:19:06,600
instead of having the chance to
appreciate their father.

2252
02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:10,890
And Elizabeth. This was Oh hold
on. This was an Edwards his

2253
02:19:10,890 --> 02:19:13,020
wife, you know, the guy ran for
vice president.

2254
02:19:14,460 --> 02:19:16,200
The guy who had the guy who had
the hair cut

2255
02:19:17,250 --> 02:19:18,180
the hair Yeah,

2256
02:19:18,209 --> 02:19:22,739
instead of having the chance to
appreciate their father as I had

2257
02:19:22,739 --> 02:19:23,339
for so long.

2258
02:19:23,370 --> 02:19:26,880
Why is sexual affairs so big
deal?

2259
02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:31,860
It's about sex, right? He didn't
love another person he loved

2260
02:19:31,860 --> 02:19:33,660
everybody knows that he knows it

2261
02:19:33,660 --> 02:19:36,150
and you know, why is this a big
deal?

2262
02:19:37,590 --> 02:19:42,630
Or this this Jim, tell me about
the sexuality it's in your DNA

2263
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:49,050
Yeah, he's got issue now I had
an old gold Gordon Brown clip

2264
02:19:49,200 --> 02:19:51,990
and I put it here for a reason
but this is before this before

2265
02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:55,950
cameras how back far back the
show goes is before Cameron and

2266
02:19:55,950 --> 02:20:01,050
then before you know I'm Blair.

2267
02:20:01,740 --> 02:20:06,240
And so next to Obama beach, we
joined President Obama in paying

2268
02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:08,760
particular tribute to the
spectacular the bravery of

2269
02:20:08,760 --> 02:20:13,020
American soldiers who gave their
lives on Omaha Beach.

2270
02:20:13,650 --> 02:20:15,030
He said Obama beach didn't.

2271
02:20:15,120 --> 02:20:18,990
Yeah, he said Obama beach and he
got so far said again, he

2272
02:20:18,990 --> 02:20:24,870
realized he's almost gonna say
Obama beach again. Play it one

2273
02:20:24,870 --> 02:20:27,000
more time, so people appreciate
this Gaff.

2274
02:20:27,120 --> 02:20:28,380
This is a very good gaffe.

2275
02:20:28,800 --> 02:20:33,270
And so next to Obama beach, we
joined President Obama in paying

2276
02:20:33,270 --> 02:20:35,790
particular tribute to the
spectacularly bravery of

2277
02:20:35,790 --> 02:20:39,960
American soldiers who gave their
lives on Omaha Beach.

2278
02:20:42,450 --> 02:20:49,200
Oops. All right. I have my phone
going off.

2279
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:51,660
What else we need to discuss?
John, what else do we need

2280
02:20:52,830 --> 02:20:55,230
to look at earlier, I made a
little list and it will just get

2281
02:20:55,230 --> 02:20:59,580
these out of the way. about the
about the creation of the show

2282
02:20:59,580 --> 02:21:03,540
notes, you talked about that?
Bad signal,

2283
02:21:03,930 --> 02:21:07,380
Oh, bad signal. And this goes
back a long time, we have a

2284
02:21:07,380 --> 02:21:10,950
number of apps certainly that
were produced. When smartphones

2285
02:21:10,980 --> 02:21:13,530
really started coming out the
show was evolving during the

2286
02:21:13,530 --> 02:21:17,760
smartphone. Certainly the iPhone
and the whole birth of the

2287
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:21,180
smartphone phenomenon, which is
now of course known as tech

2288
02:21:21,180 --> 02:21:26,910
news. And people who were able
to they were interested in

2289
02:21:26,910 --> 02:21:32,010
making apps that would help you
listen to the show have

2290
02:21:32,010 --> 02:21:35,670
different and I don't really
know how super successful they

2291
02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:40,020
are. But there's a number of
them that are meant specifically

2292
02:21:40,020 --> 02:21:43,800
to listen to the live stream.
And we have and depends but

2293
02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:47,490
probably about, on average 1000
people who listen live to the

2294
02:21:47,490 --> 02:21:52,380
show. And and a number of them
are also in the chat at the same

2295
02:21:52,380 --> 02:21:55,230
time while we're doing the show,
which which I find to be very

2296
02:21:55,230 --> 02:21:58,860
helpful. I like seeing some few
I just like knowing there's an

2297
02:21:58,860 --> 02:22:02,880
audience out there saying often
people will shout something in

2298
02:22:02,880 --> 02:22:06,360
the chat room or email. And it
sometimes it's handy, or you can

2299
02:22:06,360 --> 02:22:07,020
add sometimes

2300
02:22:07,020 --> 02:22:09,570
corrections take place. Yes,
absolutely. Real time.

2301
02:22:09,870 --> 02:22:10,560
Absolutely.

2302
02:22:12,270 --> 02:22:16,230
And as a part of that, you have
the push notification, which was

2303
02:22:16,230 --> 02:22:20,310
kind of a new deal on the iPhone
when it first came out. And so

2304
02:22:20,310 --> 02:22:23,160
you have this app installed on
your iPhone, I believe it's also

2305
02:22:23,160 --> 02:22:27,720
works on one or maybe a couple
of the Android apps. When I send

2306
02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:32,850
a tweet to exactly what it is.
Anytime I send a tweet that

2307
02:22:32,850 --> 02:22:39,150
includes the the following
hashtag at sign pocket, no

2308
02:22:39,150 --> 02:22:46,380
agenda, then whatever the the
tweet is, the the notification

2309
02:22:46,380 --> 02:22:50,610
goes off, and I believe it the
sound is the in the morning

2310
02:22:50,610 --> 02:22:55,770
sound. The notification pops up
with you know, probably we're

2311
02:22:55,770 --> 02:22:59,280
live now no agenda stream.com.
And that is known as the bad

2312
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:02,190
signal. And there's different
variations is a growl

2313
02:23:02,310 --> 02:23:05,370
notification that all kind of
works on the on the same system.

2314
02:23:06,090 --> 02:23:08,700
It'd be interesting to know how
many people still use it. But

2315
02:23:08,730 --> 02:23:12,780
it's surprisingly a lot of
people that we've forgotten to,

2316
02:23:12,990 --> 02:23:17,160
to fire off the bat signal,
which is obviously a call by

2317
02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:21,240
throw back a call back to the
Batman the bad signal. Sometimes

2318
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:23,580
I've forgotten to do it or
forget, I forget the tweet with

2319
02:23:23,580 --> 02:23:26,610
that keyword. And people like
oh, well, I missed the start of

2320
02:23:26,610 --> 02:23:29,130
the show. And they come into the
chat room. 45 minutes after we

2321
02:23:29,130 --> 02:23:34,470
started Oh angry. If you look at
no agenda stream.com right now

2322
02:23:34,470 --> 02:23:40,800
actually, I've added something.
There's a countdown timer on. No

2323
02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:48,780
agenda stream.com. And the
countdown timer is number of

2324
02:23:48,780 --> 02:23:56,670
days, hours, etc. Until the next
show next live show. So right

2325
02:23:56,670 --> 02:24:01,320
now I have four as of this
moment, one day, 21 hours, 26

2326
02:24:01,320 --> 02:24:07,290
minutes, 52 seconds. Oops,
that's me, I think, shut up. So

2327
02:24:07,290 --> 02:24:09,810
other than that, just people
like to be reminded, bam, you

2328
02:24:09,810 --> 02:24:12,030
gotta remind people of things
all the time. It's a busy world.

2329
02:24:12,030 --> 02:24:14,070
That's why we have to remind
people to help us out to

2330
02:24:14,070 --> 02:24:18,390
volterra.org/n A, which is
another one of our little

2331
02:24:18,390 --> 02:24:19,920
secrets jingles work.

2332
02:24:21,330 --> 02:24:26,100
It's not much of a secret. I
mean, it's Yeah, it is. Yeah, it

2333
02:24:26,100 --> 02:24:29,400
is. Apparently it is because
nobody does them. Right. I mean,

2334
02:24:29,400 --> 02:24:33,420
there are still people using
them but it's a well known. In

2335
02:24:33,420 --> 02:24:35,730
fact, the guy that was we talked
about this on one of the oldest

2336
02:24:35,730 --> 02:24:39,060
shows a guy who ran it was in
Canada and he would listen to

2337
02:24:39,060 --> 02:24:41,940
Canadian stations, some guy who
invented the modern jingle in

2338
02:24:41,940 --> 02:24:48,180
the 20s, I guess was on and he
radio jingles. And he was

2339
02:24:48,180 --> 02:24:51,420
talking about their
effectiveness and kind of

2340
02:24:51,510 --> 02:24:55,920
lamenting the couldn't have been
from the 20 Whatever it was,

2341
02:24:55,950 --> 02:24:59,160
that was some genius. I will
assert he was lamenting the fact

2342
02:24:59,160 --> 02:25:00,420
that they're not appreciate
aidid

2343
02:25:00,480 --> 02:25:05,640
I will assert that some of our
jingles are actually healing for

2344
02:25:05,640 --> 02:25:10,470
the mind healing when you are
being terrorized by your

2345
02:25:10,470 --> 02:25:17,010
government the number of times
people have tweeted and said,

2346
02:25:17,040 --> 02:25:19,830
Oh, I heard the jingle when I
saw this, therefore not being

2347
02:25:19,830 --> 02:25:24,240
terrorized about ISIS about to
chop your head off. I think it's

2348
02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:25,140
beneficial.

2349
02:25:25,530 --> 02:25:31,260
Yeah. Probably is. Probably as
we do a lot. I think that's

2350
02:25:31,260 --> 02:25:33,450
beneficial. And I hope people
appreciate it and do go to the

2351
02:25:33,480 --> 02:25:37,440
divorce.org/na and take out a
program of some sort as a

2352
02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:40,230
Christmas gift. And this is the
Christmas show. It is indeed

2353
02:25:40,380 --> 02:25:41,220
2014

2354
02:25:41,250 --> 02:25:44,910
And I would like to ask you
where you actually are at this

2355
02:25:44,910 --> 02:25:49,530
moment. My office, night being
really on Christmas.

2356
02:25:50,100 --> 02:25:52,890
Oh, I don't know yet. I've made
the important Angeles. I may be

2357
02:25:52,890 --> 02:25:58,200
in California. I'm not sure how,
okay, I'm in Mexico. Oh, yeah, I

2358
02:25:58,200 --> 02:25:58,890
mean, Mexico.

2359
02:25:58,920 --> 02:25:59,850
We are doing

2360
02:25:59,910 --> 02:26:03,600
we are doing I didn't get there.
I had an old clip about Mexico

2361
02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:07,320
saying don't go to Mexico.
Whatever you do. I wanted to

2362
02:26:07,320 --> 02:26:10,860
play that little fear and yeah,
okay. Yeah, I don't have

2363
02:26:11,430 --> 02:26:16,020
WTF Mexico. Is that it? Yeah, it
might be it let's take a look.

2364
02:26:16,830 --> 02:26:21,090
Around 100 officers cordoned off
the area after authorities

2365
02:26:21,090 --> 02:26:23,880
discovered a fresh mass graves
on Saturday.

2366
02:26:23,910 --> 02:26:27,450
Okay, Mickey might be listening.
Let's not do this right now.

2367
02:26:31,410 --> 02:26:34,590
Yeah, we're going in we're doing
a non traditional no Christmas

2368
02:26:34,590 --> 02:26:37,980
tree. No Christmas Christmas.
For Change.

2369
02:26:39,240 --> 02:26:43,050
Well, I didn't non Turkey
Thanksgiving myself where

2370
02:26:43,050 --> 02:26:43,980
everyone else had Turkey.

2371
02:26:44,010 --> 02:26:47,010
I didn't have anything I had.
shwarma for Thanksgiving. Yes.

2372
02:26:47,010 --> 02:26:50,250
You said that. I'm giving up on
everything. I think I'm just

2373
02:26:50,250 --> 02:26:51,750
getting hung up on everything.
Play that

2374
02:26:51,750 --> 02:26:53,550
play the jingle bells as we go
out.

2375
02:26:53,580 --> 02:26:58,080
Yes, I shall. Wear the jingle
bells. Anyway, John. Merry

2376
02:26:58,080 --> 02:26:58,650
Christmas.

2377
02:26:58,920 --> 02:26:59,760
Merry Christmas.

2378
02:26:59,910 --> 02:27:09,360
We will speak on Sunday. Yes,
life live and I will be in

2379
02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:15,210
Mexico. All right. All things
willing. All things being equal.

2380
02:27:15,240 --> 02:27:16,830
All things working the same.

2381
02:27:18,300 --> 02:27:20,940
If you're not in Mexico, you'll
be somewhere else.

2382
02:27:21,150 --> 02:27:23,070
No, I'll be there. Just
hopefully I'll be able to

2383
02:27:23,070 --> 02:27:24,750
connect. That's yeah, you'd

2384
02:27:24,750 --> 02:27:25,950
be able to hear in a good spot.

2385
02:27:30,990 --> 02:27:35,670
And I look forward to bringing
you local news. Good. It's tough

2386
02:27:35,670 --> 02:27:38,100
to talk about ourselves. I don't
know if I like it that much.

2387
02:27:38,220 --> 02:27:43,230
Yeah, we went too long. Yes, we
have some people some insight.

2388
02:27:43,230 --> 02:27:45,180
They didn't have it. I think it
was for new listeners. A lot of

2389
02:27:45,180 --> 02:27:46,410
people probably just turned it
off.

2390
02:27:47,850 --> 02:27:56,190
Well, yes, maybe. The way I see.
It was worth coming to you from

2391
02:27:56,190 --> 02:27:59,100
FEMA Region six here in the
capital, the drone star states.

2392
02:27:59,940 --> 02:28:01,470
In the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry.

2393
02:28:01,560 --> 02:28:04,200
And from Northern Silicon
Valley. This is the kind of show

2394
02:28:04,200 --> 02:28:07,800
that a lot of you hoped we kept
doing since the early shows. Now

2395
02:28:07,800 --> 02:28:09,870
you know why we don't have John
C. Dvorak.

2396
02:28:10,200 --> 02:28:13,620
We'll be back on Sunday right
here on no agenda.

2397
02:28:22,830 --> 02:28:26,280
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