six pound rodents.
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. It's
Thursday December 18 2014. And time for your gizmo nation media
assassination, Episode Six, Seven Niner. This
is no agenda
refusing to buckle to North Korean hacker threats continuing
on broadcast from FEMA Region six, the capital the drone Star
State last Tejas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon
Valley where we're all gonna die from the Koreans. That is, I'm
Johnson.
But that is not the top news of the day, John, that is just not
the top news.
Well, I have a prelude clip that if you're going to have the top
news
do you know what the top news is? Yet? Well,
it doesn't make any difference is evergreen Prelude?
Is it called Evergreen Prelude by any chance all another
Parliament clip? Ah, one of my favorites I'm sorry. Are you
yelling at me?
I'm announcing Mr. Adam curry and then they're all cheering
and cheering
somehow the mix didn't work try to get no it's because of Skype
it did. You gotta like try it again. Okay, hit it doesn't
work. Doesn't just not working. It's not working. Oh, John woke
up this morning email box filled. Sorry, I woke up this
morning, my email box. My inbox was filled. Okay, all kinds of
concerns citizens about what were they concerned about?
Apparently, I'm divorced again. two page spread in the newspaper
today.
Wow. Yeah. Where did this where did this news come from?
I don't know. It's interesting. Because the there's no, no
attribution to any sources who have this information.
Well, you know what, this always sounds like when something like
this happens to me what sounds like somebody recycled an old
newspaper? Or they read it? Oh, yeah. No, have you ever done
this? I think everybody has but you go on the internet and or
somebody sends you a link to an article. Yeah. And read this.
Oh, my God, and you forget to look at the dates to 2011.
Okay, so so this is this was what was it a couple like seven
weeks ago, that that Gaza mag had the Photoshop photo of me
and Mickey on the front, looking like, oh, it looks like they're
getting getting divorced. And you look like a goofball. Yeah,
well, they've done more of that now. It's It's unbelievable.
From the same series. I look even goofier
it's is Caitlin good. Yeah,
I'm getting that be. Yeah, it's a profile shot. I mean, it's all
over the Twitter's you should see it.
I don't say so. But the
thing is, no, there's no attribution not saying who has
this information. They haven't talked to Mickey or I, as a two
page spread. And I'm convinced this is the boomerang effect.
You know, Mickey has a show coming up in in January solo
show. So she's setting up interviews and it's kind of the
way it works.
What's Why don't get the boomerang part. Oh, we it's
when you put energy into the press it boomerangs back it? Oh,
I
see what you're thinking. It always does.
But this one is, this one was really good. Because even though
this article is swear to God, if you read it, there is nothing in
there that has any fact or any source of any information. Just
Oh, it's being talked about. And I have good friends
anything by searching.
I have good friends. emailing me. Oh, man, I'm so sorry to
tell you where this came from. This doesn't make zero sense.
Listen, the thing is, everyone believes it. My own sister's
like, oh, no, I can't believe getting divorced again. I said,
Did you read the wrong thing? It's somebody what was it that
they read? The same thing, but I just told you just went by the
hand tweets a headline and the headline in the in the paper is
Adam and Mickey getting divorced? That's the same gossip
brag. No, this is the newspaper The Telegraph, the big one. So
this is
what's wrong with these people. They can't even get the story
straight today. Recall for attribution, or
no, no. Well, of course, why bother? Of course, now
everybody's calling Hey, we read this thing in the newspaper. I'm
like, and I'm not gonna call you back. I'm like, I'm gonna. I'm
gonna feed the machine. That's funny. So that was my big news.
And then there was all this other stuff.
Sure, big news. What I'm getting divorced.
And by the way, how stupid are they? Don't they know that
Mickey cannot? She'd be stupid to divorce me now. We have to
have the two year interview with Department of Homeland Security.
So she has the green card in the pocket. Yeah. That makes no
sense.
No. Doesn't it after that? Yeah. Because
I understand living with a podcaster in Austin Texas is not
you know,
what are you? What are you? So what does your husband do? He's
a podcaster in Austin, in Austin, Texas. Notice that what
is that podcast? What does that even what is that? What is that?
Can you make money doing? What is well,
you know yet where you have now we're V j's are kind of like the
lowest rung of the show business ladder actually, above that is
it's curable lepers. And then underneath V J's, we're
podcaster calm. And then in the curable lepers, it
would make sense, man.
Anyway, before we get started, thank
you for June vented both of these categories of
showbusiness, I know isn't that great? Yeah, you're a double
double you've done to have not done in
any. So I spent a lot of time in the past few days analyzing,
really taking a very, very close look. And you brought it up. And
I have to admit, John C. Dvorak. You were right.
Okay.
I think Fox News does have a couple of transsexuals working
for him.
Yeah. How was it? Took me the wrong direction.
How was my timing? How was that was pretty good, right? Yeah, it
was excellent. I buxom everybody. Happy Hanukkah. I
think it's what you say Huck somewhere.
I don't know what that even means. I don't know. It was
happy Hanukkah.
Because of the war on Christmas. You see, that's why.
Okay, it's a war on Christmas. I didn't know this. To warn the
public.
Well, yeah, I just have so many. I just couldn't stop yesterday.
It would not stop this the crazy that was just happening. Blood
with this with this Sony thing.
Oh, it's out of control. Way too many. Clips are revealing. I
have a theory.
Can I just follow on? Christmas?
I'll just come in later.
I just want to because it's a war on Christmas. I just wanted
to play a clip from Alan Dershowitz on CNN. Now Alan
Dershowitz. He's, is he a divorce attorney? No, he's just
a regular turn. No,
he's a professor of law, Jew, and troublemaker and Jew. Yes,
he's a Jew,
the world will be full of fear. Remember the 11th of September
2001, we recommend you to keep yourself distant from the places
at that time. And if your house is nearby, you'd better leave.
So this is a direct threat of physical violence and movie
goers and people who go to the mall. This is also an attack on
Christmas.
What is the Jew with the wait for his explanation? Because
Christmas is not the day that the Son of God was born in the
manger? Oh, nothing what Christmas is according to
Dershowitz, let's be
very clear about that. Because one of the reasons Sony had no
choice but the bow is this could affect Christmas shopping, this
could affect the way Christmas Day is celebrated. It could
affect not only this movie, but any movie playing in the same
complex. So this is a big
in a way that's more serious than the hacking. Because there
is if you can simply send an email and bring a movie to a
hall. That's, you know, that's that's an incredible statement
about what and the thing I think people need to realize is that
responding to that has a cost to the no backing away has
learned that the government is going to need North Korea as the
culprit. So you said you're not a terrorism expert, but state
sponsored terrorism isn't kids this is clearly state sponsored.
Clearly. Worldly clearly. The good news out of all this I'm
backing in conversation with Uncle Don
Yeah, and he probably has some clue that this is bogus as a as
a North Korean thing. Well, then,
of course he knows it's bogus. The problem is he he really I've
had to educate him over the past 18 hours on how bogus This is.
And you know, because people have a reading news about
hacking and cyber, if they don't know what the reports are, you
know, when someone does something goes wrong. It's a
glitch. I mean, there's no actual report. This is a glitch.
You sent a link that I did put in the show notes which there's
there's a couple of X excellent analyses about why this is
absolutely not a shoo in for North Korea. This is what I sent
Don. I sent him a number of things and also I gave him some
advice which I'd like to like to share my advice with you to the
former CIA former ambassador to South Korea.
Ironically, very Ira
Honestly, this is Carolyn Balan, she is from Chatham House in the
UK. She's She is an expert of sorts in in the cyber Enos. I
like what she has to say especially a little point that
I'm going to expand on. Regarding Sony. On the
one hand, you can make the argument that they use the same
attack code that was used in 2013 that North Korea is blamed
for, and this was an attack on South Korea. The other hand,
actually, I'm
sorry, what's up?
Is you sure this isn't the girl who takes the flute and pushes
it up? But it sounds like No, it's
not Bandcamp girl than Bandcamp girl? No, this is not Bandcamp
and Bandcamp girl at bandcamp.
I stuck a flute my pacifically attack code is
just right, she may be that girl. disturbing. Okay,
pack code is just bought and sold quite regularly. There's a
whole underground cyber criminal trade where you can buy and sell
attack code. So I'm not sure that was initially why we
accused North Korea. But I'm not sure that that is actually such
a valid argument. You can basically buy vulnerabilities,
you can buy even automated attack toolkits. So all of this
information can be purchased online, in this underground
black market. So you can't really attribute it to North
Korea, there's a lot of espionage just carried out for
corporate purposes. I mean, there's always activists, for
example, there are people who just engage in cyber attacks for
fun because it's there. And because we have so much
information online that's not well protected. And so as a
result, you have people that are just engaging in this. And then
it's also very lucrative if you can steal secrets about a
company. And you're also seen some extortion as well. So you
could steal information about a company and then you could
extort that company and say, if you don't pay us this amount of
money, then you will, then we will release this information.
And we've seen that this was extremely damaging and extremely
embarrassing for Sony. You also just simply have hacktivists who
engage in cyber attacks, you know, for fun, or maybe to
improve even a sort of political purpose. So you could imagine a
situation where there was a disgruntled employee, for
example at Sony or a group of disgruntled employees, who were
therefore interested in getting back at the company.
Now, I watched your Twitch show with the film girl by the way,
if we could just turn teach her how to shut up once in a while.
wouldn't have been a bad show. He likes to talk no but she's
one of these people just won't stop like I got the microphone
gonna keep talking I'm not gonna look have diarrhea of the mouth
girl Shut up once in a while. And I was waiting for someone to
say it Leo came kind of close. That there have been 7000
layoffs at Sony this year, including the entire digital
division that no one is looking at this very obvious point. Or
fact that
doesn't fit the narrative.
But no, they may. The entire digital division this is like a
whole room full of dudes named Ben. And somebody got one or
two of them. Yeah, exactly.
This is so obviously something that's happened from the inside
out. And well
this this this note I sent to be put in the show notes as an
analysis of why it's probably not North Korean. I want to just
mention a couple of the items that pushed in here one of the
most important to me, which was their number five item, which is
the attackers only latched on to the me reading only latched on
to the interview or the movie after the media did. The film
was never mentioned by the GOP which is something of peace. How
ironic that that was never mentioned right at the start of
the campaign. It was only after a few people started speculating
in the media. Exactly. And that was and then they Oh yeah,
that's good. that'll that'll keep them off of our tracks. But
then they at the beginning of this note, I just want to make a
few things. Everyone's eager to play minute playing. I'm reading
again. Blame pin it on us North Korea, however, it's unlikely
one, the booklet broken English looks deliberately bad and
doesn't exhibit any of the classic comprehension mistakes
you actually expect to see in Konglish. ie it reads like an
English speaker pretending to be bad at writing English, right?
And the fact that the code was written on a PC with Korean
locale and language actually makes it less likely to be North
Korea, not least because they don't speak traditional Korean
and North Korea. They speak their own dialect and
traditional Korean is forbidden. Yes, it is. This is one of the
key things that make communication with North Korea
different difficult and there's just point after in this memo
which was in the show notes. This there's point after point
after point including a lot of little small points that
indicate but by any, any stretch of the imagination is not North
Korea. This is a government a US government ploy to just once
again blame North Korea for no apparent reason. Except, of
course, you've made this movie deal which, you know, they
didn't like the idea of the movie but
and here's, here's what I told dawn. I said, Dawn, this is new,
this is a shift. Because the American public really doesn't
care. You can look at the polls, you can look at, you know,
survey after survey, they had a nuclear, nuclear, whatever human
rights, but who cares. But when you go after Seth Rogen and
James Franco and our entertainment business,
everybody loses their collective shit, don't you this, this needs
to be countered it as a perfect here's my advice to him. This is
a big opportunity. Now that we have and I see that you have a
couple of clips from Erin Burnett so we'll have to see but
I mean, Dan Rather was on Carney was on Kevin Mitnick was on. I
mean, everyone's coming out to condemn North Korea. So this is
now and of course now people are paying attention. Hey, man, we
can drink ruining Christmas man, we can't go to the movies on
Christmas man. And it's attack on free speech and attack on the
First Amendment. Everyone's going completely nuts. I said
Dawn is very simple. This is what if, if you can through your
channels make the following happen. It would be the biggest
coup in political trade craft history. Kim Jong Un has to come
out and say, Hey, why don't we premiered this movie here in
Pyongyang. This could be funny. And he should smoke a blunt with
Seth Rogen. See if we can get that to happen.
There you go right off the rail.
I didn't say I didn't mention the blunt thing. But in you know
and he took my advice he's listening he's really listening
are not gonna do that. Ever, but that is what should be
happening. It's so obviously this is so ludicrous. Real Carl
Bernstein. It's unbelievable. The people who were on CNN. I
have a couple clips. I don't know if you if you want to move
to your
players play. What do you have? I have another thesis
altogether. Okay. Let me Alright, that's good. That
finally figured out what was going on here. Okay, well, then
I'll wrap my my bits up. No, no, I want to hear your clips
because they will just do they'll segue into mine. I
guarantee it
here. So on the show, Dan Rather with Fareed Zakaria and Dan
rather's actually kind of go he's like, Hey, man, we don't
actually have any proof yet. But these guys are are so serious
about this.
Yeah, I'm sorry to say and by the way, the way that stated
that the FBI, as is now 99% Certain, and they're going to
come up with an announcement the FBI
no less. Yeah, the FBI. But apparently last night, they were
talking about the White House counterterrorism Council, who
were saying that although I've looked at their website, I
haven't seen any actual announcement. Anyway, back to
the these are this is a real news guy. Two of them have no
real and Fareed Zakaria A real douchebag but he's you know,
these are news guys, there
is there is cyber war works both ways. These guys need Internet
access to operate. And there's probably a way to get back in.
Good point. Yes. Let's just recap for a second. Fareed
Zakaria clearly an expert in TCP IP and Border Gateway Protocol
thinks there's probably a way to reverse this and get back in
idiot about it doesn't know what he's talking about. This is just
loving
us to operate in this poverty
a way to get back in two points we need to respond. If it is it
now appears we certainly need to respond what we've learned not
to rush, you don't have to do something. Think it through.
What are our options in a counter cyber attack if you have
cyber attack on them? What are our options in the banking as I
mentioned earlier, what are the options for showing it you say
Walmart and Target might not handle the DVDs? Let's put it
this is another big narrative. Hey, man, we got to get this
thing out here. We have to get released it we should release it
digitally free for everyone to see so we can show our American
prowess because we won't have our entertainment industry
threatened by No, no one. Please take American servicemen and
women and your families take all of your flags down and scrub
your social networks because ISIS might come to chop your
head off. But man when it comes to threatening our entertainment
industry, we will start back no
tears. They might not but they might. But finding a way to get
this movie out is one man's opinion is now imperative. We
have to find a way
it's the case of national security, we must get this movie
out quickly
have this movie shown in the United States or will be
blackmailed constantly by one regime after another overall,
yeah,
we can't have our movies being black by one regime or the
other, which
is what gets the point you made free, which is the the deadly
serious of this nature of this threat of September 11 style
attacks that is deadly serious, then you get back to the fact
that they're doing all of this over a comedy that had a comedic
assassination of the North Korean leader and people say
that you're willing to risk war because you don't want that
movie to come out.
Doesn't matter whether the movie is silly or good or bad or
tastes fascinating winters. This freedom of expression. Yes.
Cannot be intimidated. And as you very rightly pointed out,
what is the message ISIS is going to take from this? What is
the message?
ISIS, who knows what ISIS will do next? Man we might have to
shut down homeland oh my god claim
to be outraged by almost everything, you know, cartoon or
this or that. Or they're going to view this and say, Well, this
is very easy. We just threaten these guys. And they'll claim
and the message
cannot be appeasement. That's why it's calculated response
based on hard evidence. And we have time to make a response but
respond we have
the United States Canada,
and it's fantastic. rageous and um, let me ask you a question.
Well, bring it up later, but outrageous situation how the
media has just gone in nuts and but everyone
is buying it. That's why it's so great. We have Dan Rather as Dan
fucking rather
says because they've got I don't know if he's, he's pretty old. I
don't think he's having a lot of sex. But the here's another note
from Malmo.
It's clear from his,
I'm divorcing, I don't have sex either. It's clear
from the hardcore to coded coded paths and passwords in the
malware, apparently hard coded passwords in the malware. Which
is right there is a giveaway that whoever wrote it had
extensive knowledge of Sony's internal architecture and access
to key password course. This inside job, it's very an inside
job.
It's very embarrassing. And your point was well made not
understood. On the twit show, you said, the only thing that's
real news here is that, and this, by the way, is right out
of the Unabomber manifesto. This is what you get with technology.
Okay. And this is just the beginning. And a lot of this
going on that is not talked about, but that was
entertainment. And we know the stars and now it's not whoa,
wait a minute. So this is great. In fact, so great that we had
the we had people coming out promoting their businesses super
hacker Kevin Mitnick alive via satellite, everybody.
So Kevin, help us understand the sophistication of this attack?
If hackers can cause this level of havoc? What else can they do?
Could they take out the power grid or damage our banking
system,
quarters stretched, by the way from a couple of emails in a
movie trailer to Oh, all of a sudden to take out the power
grid already
been attacks on critical infrastructure, where allegedly
the Chinese have been able to get in. And this is what I do
for a living companies actually hired me oh, well break into
their networks and test their security. And amazingly, our
success rates about 100%. I mean, it's not hard to break
into a major company these days, especially when with Sony,
because their attack surface is so huge, because they have so
many systems to attack out on the internet. So it's really
hard to defend against these attacks. And until the security
industry matures and comes up with better technologies for
companies to use. I think this is going to happen again and
again.
Thank you. And your check is in the mail. They bring in Jay
Carney, former spokes hole for the administration, who turned
right around and became a CNN expert to shill. And he is not
he's just he's not sugarcoating anything.
What can the US do, Jay?
Well, I don't think the US can do anything directly. I think
President Obama and other leaders should speak out for the
First Amendment should discourage actions.
First Amendment. John is our First Amendment is under attack,
under attack,
like the one that Sony took in theaters took that basically
caved to these kinds of threats. I think that the suggestion
mentioned earlier, that Sony should have and could still
despite its announcement today, and make the film available
digitally so that people are safe in their own homes when
they watch it. I think that's what they should do. Because
right now you have a bunch of hackers in North Korea and an
illegitimate rogue regime in North Korea, basically deciding
what Americans and viewers around the world can watch.
Oh, my goodness, unlike the FCC.
Yeah, the FCC doesn't do the same thing really.
So and now I want to definitely hand it to you but so a couple
just a couple points. I want to make the The decision to not
show the movie was based on the email that said in broken
English down rough. Do you remember 911? Well, you might
not want to go to the movie theater. If it
was translated by all the pundits to a 911 type attack,
yes. Which was the exact words they all use? Yes. And 911 type
attack every time I heard it, I said, flying into do hijack an
aeroplane and crash it into the theater. Exactly.
If that if if the United States is going to respond to anything.
And if they really believe that this is North Korea, that is an
act of war, that kind of language not a terrorist threat.
But of course, the President is not going to respond to that
because it's bull crap.
Well, here's the problem. They've dug themselves a hole.
Yes. Which is they now have determined is North Korea. So
the so the real criminals here they the worked, the ex
employees, they're off the hook, because you can't go back now
and say, Well, I was it was an irritated after all this too
many people are in
on. Everyone's making money. The ratings are through the roof.
Mitnick got contracts,
Yeah, everybody's doing well. So they have to essentially just
keep the blame on North Korea, even though all evidence doesn't
point to them all evidence points to them not being the
culprit, and why would they be what they have, oh, they have a
cyber group, you know, you know, as well as I do that as somebody
who's into computer hacking to the point where they can do real
hacking and get into things without, you know, hard coded
passwords, again, is like the giveaway, but the guys who can
really do this sort of thing. Aren't the script kiddies.
They're kids who were like outcasts in school, they were
troublesome. They're the kind of people that if we are to believe
anything about North Korea, would probably not have gotten
this far in the system. And they definitely would not be in the
3000 man army of cyber attackers that supposedly North Korea has
they don't have anybody that can do anything.
But it's almost like my the the announcement of my divorce when
you read the New York Times article, Don said, Hey, what is
the media basing this on? And of course, he reads the paper
version. I'm not sure he's not reading the online version. And
I pointed him to the grey lady, where it says American officials
have concluded North Korea was centrally involved. I'm reading
from the New York Times in the hacking of Sony Pictures,
computers, even as the studio canceled the release of a
Farfetch comedy, blah, blah, blah, seeing your admission
administration officials who would not speak on the record
about the intelligence findings. I mean, come on. Come on. No one
is actually saying this. It's just bullshit. But the New York
Times is happy to jump right in.
Oh, everybody's in on it. It's unbelievable to me. I mean,
everybody that listens to this show must have been shaking
their heads from the beginning because it has all the earmarks
of a hoax. But let's play Erin Burnett, I was stopped playing
just a few of these. I was Sony, Erin Burnett act of war. She
pushes this meme as hard as she can because she's been told to
Yeah, exactly.
This is a story of incredible significance. This is as many
have said, this is an act of war.
I picked a bad day to quit heroin. Once again, I just gotta
keep getting back on the horse. That's an
American company now has been out they have said that this is
perpetrated by a foreign government by the Government of
North Korea. Alright, so mark, let me ask you the question that
directly when you hear this, the threats that were made, and
there was a threat, right, there was a written threat, not just
on Sony Pictures, but to the American public of learning of
911 style attacks. If people went to see this movie on
Christmas Day when it debuted, is this an act of war?
Well, it is an act of war, but it is an act of wars, typically
against by a nation state against another state. This is
unusual, because it is a warlike act, if it was done, actually by
North Korea, which all indications are that it was it's
an act of war against the corporation. Now Sony had to had
to respond. And they have to protect life, health, safety and
property first. But after that, you know, really they did
ultimately end up having to cave in to these demands.
It's Sony running our Department of Homeland Security now that
they have to protect life.
There's a couple of things that come up come to mind
immediately, which is, if that's an act of war, which I don't see
wasn't the why don't they call the attack on the target
database and his credit cards an act of war? Why wasn't that an
act of war? Why was it the attack of Home Depot? And what
wasn't that an act of war? That never came up in the
conversation? And if you want to turn it around, why wasn't
Stuxnet? Thank you an act of war and it was designed to target
the government. I mean, it was not like some company and it was
a component is an admitted act of war. Yeah, it's an actual
attack on someone's critical infrastructure.
Yeah. And this is just an attack on the email system offense.
But think about it. We only think about it. The
entertainment business truly is our critical infrastructure.
That's what we run on. Everything is fueled by it.
Everything I could I was so blown. I mean, it's one, Carl
Bernstein. Carl. He's from Bernstein, Woodward and
Bernstein. These are the guys who, who broke the Watergate
story, right? Yes, he's he's getting on the air. Now.
I want to read to you what, what? Don Lemon, which
that just blows my mind right there.
Engrish tweeted about Sony's decision. He said, No one should
kill themselves with the Sony collapse of America.
Did he just did he just say English? He didn't say that. And
I want to read to you. What would Newt Gingrich Oh, Newt
Gingrich, I'm sorry. Newt Gingrich. Yeah. Newt Gingrich,
have this clip. The other Newt Gingrich, quote is a classic.
You put English as the standard in the media somehow, about
Sony's
decision. He said no one should kill themselves with the Sony
collapse. America has lost its first cyber war. This is a very,
very dangerous precedent. So Carl, you know, what message
will ISIS or the Taliban or other characters from this
capitulation
is going to use Newt Gingrich and I aren't known for being on
the same page.
It's so good job, that Carl burns and Newt Gingrich are now
agreeing with each other over this must be true over this
obvious hoax too
often, but we sure are here. This is terrible. It also means
that almost any lone wolf terrorist, some ways to inhibit
scared the hell out of big businesses, and we now have
capitulated to a force. You know, we don't negotiate with
kidnappers is a similar kind of question. What are we doing here
by saying, oh, let's let these guys just come in and have their
way I would hope that that the White House with the
entertainment industry figures out a way to somehow insist that
this movie Get Out there.
It's incredible, baffling. dumbfounding
OSI have so I have a clip of and this is I believe on one of
these. I think it's a CNN show. They may have been Aaron. They
bring on Buck Sexton. Now, Buck Sexton is an ex CIA guy who is
one of the primary players on the blaze. He's the handler for
Verband back, okay. And he comes on and I got three clips from
one after the other because he, he comes on to straighten out
the memes. fast talker. Okay, so you get a lot out of them yet.
And a lot of this stuff just slips by his last IV slips in.
He had to do a couple of things. One is is he had to correct the
notion that Sony is a Japanese company.
Oops, yeah.
Even though that's kind of like an act of war. There's a logical
problem here. Yeah. act of war. Oh, we got it to retaliate. Oh,
wait a minute. Sony is a Japanese company.
ixnay on the Japanese Jay.
Shouldn't we shouldn't the Japanese be bent out of shape?
At least taken care of? Yeah, but they're not they're not
know. So he drops in the meme. He uses it repeatedly. The meme
on American soil. Oh, wow. Yes.
Is that in this first clip here?
It's an actually in a couple of clips. But let's play Buck
Sexton you know, trying to straighten this out. So so all
the memes are lining up properly of this.
Well, is this buck Sexton one then because you want?
A short time ago former Republican presidential
candidate Newt Gingrich tweeted his opinion this
is Fox man. It's not CNN. Yeah, this fox. Let's make sense that
I would be surprised if Sexton came on CNN. The whole
thing called No one should kill themselves with the Sony
collapse. America has lost its first cyber war. This is a very,
very dangerous seminal moment press precedent. He says Buck
Sexton has hosted the buck Sexton show on glaze radio, a
former CIA officer and former NYPD Intelligence Division
specialists back Welcome. Good to have you here tonight. Thank
you. That's a big deal. What does the FBI know about this at
this point? Do you think
it's bizarre and yet very serious. At the same time? The
idea that this could be anything other than North Korea wouldn't
make any sense who would go through all this trouble? Who
would have the capability who would care enough about this
movie other than the North Korean government and its
surrogates to actually engage in this? So at this point, whether
the administration comes out or not and says it's official, I
know there have been sources saying that the FBI has
essentially said that it is North Korea, we basically know
that it is
essentially basically don't question
it and basically know that it is me I know, in our hearts, that
it's North Korean, I
remind everybody that we are a Gitmo nation. and living under
the repeal meant of the Smith Mundt Act, which forbade the
American government from committing propaganda on the
citizens of the United States. And this is the result of that
repeal.
This is section two,
the question becomes and what should the response be? Because
this is a very serious issue. If, if North Korea is allowed to
do this, if they're allowed to essentially target private
corporations on US soil, and even private citizens, it has a
very real chilling effect on our speech on top of being a form of
cyber terrorism. So this is something that requires a robust
and dedicated response from the White House. I'm not sure we're
going to get it though. I think right now, they're waiting to
see what happens so far, we
haven't heard booth from the White House. I mean, you might
expect when you think about after 911, and the concerns that
there would be further threats, the message was always go live
your life, do what you're gonna do, go to the movies, go
shopping. Now, you know, this is uncharted territory, in many
ways, a cyber war, a terrorist act in many ways, you know, we
don't know this territory. We don't know how to play out, but
it could happen again. And again. And again, given this
precedent, Sony back down. Wow,
wow, this is great. And I do, it's important what I said at
the opening of the show, when you know that my own family and
then people I know very well are emailing me saying, Man, I'm so
sorry to hear about the divorce. This it works. This stuff works.
It works. It works.
I love it. Book, which is Buck Sexton three, this is the
best, this is the mean time and just rewind it there for a
second. This is good. By the way. I like these.
Alright, so when he did back down, and I know that there's a
lot of people who are saying that Sony essentially wimped out
here. But let's be clear that Sony has been sucker punched by
this whole situation, their computers have been wiped clean,
everything has been taken off. And as we know, shared very
broadly, to embarrass the company tremendously, it's going
to cost 10s of millions of dollars more. So there's some
very serious issues that Sony is trying to deal with on top of
whether they're even going to release this movie. And quite
honestly, this is a national security issue. It's a First
Amendment issue from the perspective of the American
people who shouldn't be cowed by foreign dictators.
Is it an overreaction? Because, you know, we're hearing there's
no credible threats to any movie theaters in America based on
this. And I also wonder, we've heard so much about our invasion
of privacy, you know, that the NSA is everywhere, that they're
watching everything, there seem to have any clue where this came
from,
telling us that this was very sophisticated and the level of
the President, but I'll say this, the American people do not
react well forget about Sony for a second. We don't react well to
some tin pot dictator anywhere in the world telling us what we
can or cannot speak. What can we do. And we've done is I think
that there'll be a little bit among the American people that
show some solidarity here and the first amendment so far,
they're saying they're not going to release it digitally. I'm not
sure that's going to hold someone's going to get a copy of
this. It will be distributed on the internet. And there will be
I think, a movement to spread the film far and wide. So the
intent of this from North Korea, at least in part, which was keep
it from getting seen that's not going to work
that has been set for American corporations as you guys want,
but we backed out we pulled our movie out so you want that's the
terrorists win
against Sony. Between this and Cuba. It's a good day for
tyranny a bad day for freedom.
Great day for tyranny. John.
I love the great day for tyranny hail, Hydra. I
love the smell of tyranny in the morning.
A for tear.
You know, what the real bummer is? And I think someone placed a
couple of calls because it stopped. But everybody who were
they were spoiling the movie. You know, now we all know that
it ends with Kim Jong owns head exploding, right? That's a
spoiler man is a spoiler. And that's not okay. No. And then
that's,
and by the way, talking about acts of war. Yeah. What would
happen if France or Germany or anyone did a movie about killing
Obama? Now, we've had movies that are done out of Hollywood
where the President's under threat and they have to hold on
a second. Every never thought of specifics? Never about the
specific president in office. Correct. But this isn't I think
this is the movie itself, even though our government suppose it
green lighted it, our
government greenlit it. There's Yeah, they have to call the
White House and say hey, man, can you Greenlight this really?
Yeah. Which of course that tells you how deep the government's
involved in stuff like this. Yeah, the government Greenlight
it, it probably was
a good idea. Maybe we can get something going on bingo Boom
shaka laka.
And it was it was about a specific individual who's it who
was a real person. It was a tasteless idea. I mean, to say
the least. But of course the Japanese and was never
mentioned. This is the racism between the Japanese and the
Koreans in general. Huge, huge, huge. The Japanese hate the
Koreans. They've burnt they've attacked them their their
country numerous times and burnt the place to the ground. Yeah,
the Koreans actually lost their written land. Language and it
had to be redeveloped from scratch. I know why. So screwy
looking? Because of the Japanese. Yeah. So them doing
this movie, you know, it's not really a big surprise. But this
is not an attack on the United States by any means. by anybody.
This is bullcrap. Now here's what here's what I think. Here's
what I think would happen, or what's happening.
Can I ask you one question before you get into the final
analysis? Yeah. is running the entire nuclear armament of South
Korea, which we're doing about to hand that over to South Korea
to sell them billions of dollars worth of rockets pointed at
Pyongyang? Is that anywhere near on the level of a movie about
the Kim Jong lunes head being blown up?
I don't see any comparison whatsoever. Okay, just want to
make sure I'm not crazy. Now let's go with I get the loudest
do these last two clips here. Here's the first one that kind
of like, okay, I see where Korea stands. And all this. Here's a,
here's a fox, fox is all in on this, of course, here's a fox
item about Castro. And this is the Castro North Korea clip and
this was this was kind of triggered some of my thinking,
then then we gave up three spies. And suppose we might have
another person that's, that's coming. But on top of that,
there are these incredible concessions that the Castro
regime has always asked for. And in return, it's one that the Red
Cross is going to be able to go into Cuba and the UN is going to
be able to go into Cuba. This is the same un that six months ago,
was told that the Castro regime has sent the largest shipment of
illicit arms to North Korea. And they did nothing they didn't
respond. President Obama did respond by giving the Castro
regime the largest concessions that any dictator has gotten in
franking. In frankly, your recent history. I
mean, it just raises
Why is it why is this they're throwing in a little thing,
their little little who's got nothing to do with this deal,
but they throw it in anyway. Okay, would change it? Okay, so
then I got Fox hints at the truth about the Sony attack. And
this is what triggered my conclusion from enablers
really of those behind this vicious attack.
But I find it curious, because there's so many people who are
outraged in this country by the involvement of government and
private companies in the business of private companies in
regulation, all of that. And yet, I mean, maybe we're gonna
hear more tomorrow when they make this FBI announcement that
supposedly will definitely link it to North Korea. But we
haven't heard from the government. Look, go about your
lives. Don't let this cow you, you know. And also, I heard that
two government officials were consulted on this movie, and
said, you know, we don't have a problem with the fact that Kim
Jong Un's head blows up at the end of the movie. We're okay
with it. Now that I have too much to say about the whole
thing.
This was a stupid and reckless idea by Sony, how it gets
marketed as a comedy. I have no idea but it still is a blow
against free speech as dumb as the movie might be. And as you
mentioned earlier, there is now nothing to stop other attackers
from targeting any movie or magazine or newspaper displeases
them. And many, many American companies are vulnerable.
And they will you can bet on it after this. Howard, thank you
very much.
Okay. I think I know where you're going. Any American
companies are vulnerable by I think I know what you're the
word. Yes. I agree. I think that Okay,
so what we have is the they took this situation, and they because
and the NSA was mentioned earlier, which helps me come to
the conclusion that this is an opportunity to get the American
corporations on board with this information sharing we've been
insisting on and then and the company said last time you you
guys are involved, you're screwed us. We got we burned us
we can't do business overseas, and all this sort of thing
because of the Snowden stuff. So they're trying to make it you
know, let's Let's scare these companies to death, which is our
what we can do the best about what this could happen to you.
And this isn't foreign government. And if we if you
don't have us in bed with you, if we don't have the US, we
can't we can't protect you. We can't protect protect you,
you're going to be screwed like Sony got screwed by North Korea,
those evil doers don't want that, do you? So this is just a
complete ploy. From the beginning to the end for our
intelligence services to get into the corporate, you know,
pants.
Well, the bill is about to be signed by the President. It went
through it he all he has to do is sign it. And I guess now
that's all he has to do in this in this Gambit. This is a
gambit. This is the definition of a gambit, I think.
Yes. Which also means that they can't reveal if when they catch
the real guys who did this if they do, they can they can never
say that because now it makes the whole thing look like a
giant scam which it is
fall apart. Yeah.
I love this.
Because if you had if we had been talking a couple of years
ago, and I would have said hey man, you know what I think's
going to happen because I'm from the future. And I told you this
You would have laughed in my face. You would have said no
way. Even I couldn't have come up with this scenario. This is
great. Do you think that there's one or two people who are really
thought about this? Or is this crisis teams who come in and
crisis thing? Don't let a good crisis go to waste? But
who do you think is really driving this?
I you know, at first at first just call me I mean,
call me could be call me. For me.
It's definitely NSA, NSA. So there's some involvement, but I
think it started on its own. I don't think anyone's plan. I
agree scheme. I agree. First, it started on Sunday in the media
picked it up, because it's a slow news, you know, time a
year, well, North Koreans are attacking because of this
because somebody put two and two together somebody like us that
doesn't, but only at one level. They didn't didn't go any
deeper. Somebody in the media put two and two together. So oh,
there's this movie. And Kim Jong Un, I think did express some
dissatisfaction. Yes, there
was on December 9, the state television said they deserve
that the putting about the Sony hack. And they certainly deserve
being hacked because there's a horrible movie they're putting
out that was state TV, which
first thing they hacked and nobody mentioned the movie, then
somebody mentions the movie, and then somebody puts two and two
together and all of a sudden is the movie then thus it was thus
this is a postdoc argument. One of those back as arguments is
bullshit. That would be put two and two together and thought it
has to be North Korea. And then pretty soon it goes from an it
must be North Korea to it is North Korea, and everybody knows
it like a buck sexes, and we all know it. We all know it's North
Korea. And it goes and then at some point, it's between the
putting together and then the thing maintaining itself as a
news story. Somebody came up with the bright idea to say yes,
it is North Korea, and everybody is under attack. And all
corporations are vulnerable. Get in bed with the NSA, we've been
begging you to do this forever. You don't want like us, but we
want you in bed, and this is going to happen to you.
Everybody buys it. They all sign up. It's fantastic. It's really
smartly done. Yeah, but it wasn't a it wasn't a plan it
just one of those crisis management things. You got the
crisis? What can how can we? How can we make out on this crisis?
And here's the only thing I will say, first of all, and I know
dudes named Ben and dudettes named Ben, who have worked on
drone programs. Who left and were then asked by their
superiors. Oh, hey, man, could you change the root password? To
this?
To this I'm
not kidding you this is true of release, it was by believe it to
be true with this story that was really sounds like something
that would happen. The level of knowledge of how technology
works in American in any business is so low is so trusted
to just so trusted, really, that the big news for me is, it's a
free for all. It's a big free for all, and only the people
it's very simple, very, very few things you have to do. There's
lots of stuff I email, if someone breaks into my email
could be potentially embarrassing that I'm sure
there's something in there. This is why all you have to do is
just use encryption. It's very simple. And oh, yeah, it's not
being made simple for you to do it. But once you figure it out,
that's really the main thing people have to do. That's it.
That's all it has the powers
that they do not want you using encrypt horse. Now notice that
if you're on all this reporting, no one mentions it. No one even
used the word encryption even when I heard it.
Even Kevin Mitnick is saying, Oh, we have to wait for more
more sophisticated tools to be developed. Shut up, you dick.
That guy's a dick. He's all in.
Well, of course, this is his livelihood. I'd be all into if I
was on the wrong side of history. This was this. This is
a scam. It's the highest the highest order. You know, of all
the things in that memo that I said it will be in the show
notes. Of all the things there's a long list of reasons why it's
not North Korea, the hard coded paths and passwords and malware.
Yeah, hard coded paths, paths, paths. They knew the structure
of the day of the whole network, the whole course hard coded
passwords. Yeah, that's not malware. By any normal sense. I
mean, you can't use it someplace else. You can't take that code
and then attack you know, Sears with it or attack anybody
Paramount Pictures.
I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT
arena. There was somebody whose name was I can't even remember
his last name. I think his first name may have been been a guy
named Ben and
dude named Ben. That's right. That's how people think about
their IT technology. The dude named Ben is sitting there. I
don't know some dude named Ben came over and he did some stuff.
It was damaged and fix it all. He Sony, they're dumb. They
fired 5000 people and another 2000 in July. No one is talking
about this is the entire digital division. Come on? Come on,
who's the Chief Technology Officer at Sony or whoever is
supposed to be in charge?
I think this the hack came after the second 2000 If you're
working there, and they just fired 5000 people in a certain
type of arena, which would be the computer guys. And your
computer guys still working there? Yeah. You The first thing
you do. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but a lot of
people take defensive measures.
And yeah, of course, and you should I'm doing that right now
to make his computer before the divorce. I gotta download that
whole bench. I gotta have the thing, man. I gotta
be 3.0 Really pull stuff down fast.
I need my I need weaponization here under attack.
We're talking about under attack. So I got it. This is
this is the level of do it the public has to deal with.
Can I just stop you for one second? Isn't it great for you
and I to be alive while this is happening? And to have a
podcast,
though? Yeah. And I think everyone who listens to this
podcast Yeah, it's a winner very much appreciates this probably
more than anyone else because our audience is very technical.
Not everybody but most of them and or a lot of them let's say
and they exist less and less well crap constantly and they
must and must drive them crazy and they love they have to
because we have good support. They love the fact that somebody
is making the obvious you know we're saying the obvious is this
is no
this is outcomes razor is this is this is very obvious. It's
very easy to see. I'm just flabbergasted at the level of
people that for Don Lemon to sit around and one day he's talking
about why didn't you bite Bill Cosby's Dick when he was putting
it in your mouth. Thanks Don Lemon for a way to vilify the
victim and then the next day he's you know he's talking to
Dan Rather and Carl Bernstein and through it's great All
right, what do you have got more?
Well actually, let me skip it in we can maybe you want to
want to take a little break afterwards. Well, maybe then
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it's a good time to be alive. Good time to be alive. I
say. But so I have this clip I want to saved which this is from
NCIS I'm gonna get enough of these crazy clips in. And this
is just this is the power and power grid attack clip from the
last show it was just on the other night. That's actually
insane as La
from see bug. At the time of the break in only one file was
downloaded onto a thumb drive. 860 kilobytes it's not that
much. But it's enough to count. Yeah. What do you got? Well, I
managed to ID the malware seems to affect something called PLCs
programmable logic controllers. They're used in industrial
computer systems to control automation of industrial
systems. Well, the specific PLC is that this malware targets are
only found in US electric power plants, guys. This bug could
crash the entire nation's granted for
weeks. No power, no communications, no heat.
No Netflix is what they should have said no heat, no Netflix,
Netflix.
They're going to be honest about it. Oh my gosh. This is assuming
of course that the entire country has the exact same lash
up which is not the case. Of course. No, no, no. So I you
know radio stations being all the same. They're not you
brought up
Cuba in that related to Sony clip. Of course, I watched the
the State Department briefing from yesterday. I do have to say
I'm impressed with Jen Psaki. I really am this girl. She has to
you know, she has all these papers and she has little tabs
and when someone says oh, it's going to be Cuba, but they can
easily go to sony they can go to any any topic, ISIS ISIL she has
different ones or ISIS or ISIL. And she whips that open. It's
just she starts talking, she must have so much going on in
her head. I'm impressed. I have to say
I can. I'm not impressed unnecessarily. But I will say
that she is one of the slickest that I've seen
in that very, very slick, extremely slick, and she makes
Marie
look stupid, like an amateur look stupid exotic ovaries
trying to get her job.
We know that. And so I watched the entire briefing I've watched
report after report after report. And I think what happens
even Matt didn't didn't bring it up. Matt Lee, Matthew Lee from
AP the AR guy are the savior of journalism. Because I think what
happens is particularly journalists, they hear they hear
all this we're going to open the gates we're going to change
something with with Cuba. And then immediately they're all
thinking about, you know, Bay of Pigs and, and and Castro but no
one really looked at besides the so called shipment to North
Korea. What happened in July, it was just July that the following
took place and I went back to the Clip Bin I pulled out a 25
second clip, which has as far as like, as far as I know, has not
been brought up as a in any relation to the new. The New
Deal we are trying to put together with Cuba,
we can enroll a customer with a rubber stamp an unprecedented
agreement, Moscow is writing off 90% of Cuba's deaths to the USSR
that's $32 billion astronomical money for a poor country like
Cuba, the remaining 10% will be reinvested into social
infrastructure projects on Cuba. The intrigue is what Havana will
offer in return. Speculation takes in everything from major
oil deals. Cuba potentially has a lot of it but how is no money
to extract to rebuilding Soviet military bases on the islands?
Okay,
no one is mentioning the $34 billion
gift from Putin. $34 billion
and military bases and,
and oil.
Why bother even bringing it up? Why bother? We have a long
longish email from Cuban producer who was born in Cuba.
Lived in Havana for eight years. Do you want to have this like,
yeah,
I want to read it in segments as you see fit. I
think it's probably a good idea. A little background is born in
Cuba lived in Havana for eight years. He's in his mid 20s. Now
came over to the US with his family through the Cuban lottery
visa program. But since then, he's gone back a couple of times
to visit family. He says you know, whatever is motivating the
US and Cuba to do this. Now I'll leave up to you and John, but
what I can talk about is my experience living in Cuba for a
short time, my family's history and his visits. Anywhere you
look on walking down the streets of Havana, you see people who've
been beaten into submission. The police were military uniforms,
carry assault rifles, say anything bad about the
government anywhere but in your own home and privately you will
get a knock on the door and the butt of a rifle across your face
or worse, be imprisoned. several family members of mine have had
their arms broken because they spoke ill of the government. All
over the country you find propaganda spewing lies about
the US demonizing Americans, whatever happens because of the
actions Obama has now taken will only increase the propaganda.
Billboards telling the Cuban people they've won over the US
or the US has been bent under their will. The best thing for
the Cuban people is for the government officials who run the
country to be gone while they're still there in power. Any aid
that goes to that country, every new business that opens up will
only line their pockets leave the people starving. And then he
goes into more details about how bad it is. And then we'll finish
it up here. The prostitution This is of course key. We're
always interested in prostitution is abundant and up
in your face. I don't see how this is a bad thing. The one
club and the one bar I went to were filled with almost 90%
Hookers with pimps waiting outside. All young girls who
need the money as jobs and Kuba can hardly pay for anything. The
tourists these clubs were mostly old foreign men taking advantage
of the situation sounds like Thailand. Just a few notes here.
The thought of more tourism just frightens me more money for the
higher ups in government and more citizens oppressed in the
morning.
That is the bonus play my Cuba clip I got this one says Kadena
exchange anomaly, which I think is kind of interesting.
apart is the freeing of Cuba of a US spy of a Cuban nationality
who had been held in Cuba for the last two decades or so says
the Obama administration This is one of the highest ranking
intelligence assets the United States had. That is as much as
we know about this person will presumably stay anonymous for a
long time. Possibly forever. Alan Gross his release that was
really the spark that got things going.
Yeah, that's pretty cool. Don't talk about the spy. Yeah, nobody
mentions the spy and then if we don't even know the spies name,
Eric looked at this as in In fact, he saw it mentioned by the
government, it's plural there may be two spies as possible.
Now wherever the case is, they can't mention his name. Don't
ever mention his name. And why was he why why now would be the
question I'd ask which I believe was answered by the oil. Yeah,
it's $34 billion good here but Cuba we just want to get that
oil quick before
Putin gets back here before they like doing this. The guys the
guys hosting the Winter Olympics. Let's go screw with
Ukraine. We can do it right now. He's not paying attention. This
is perfect. We can do it right now. Like doing this dude. Oh,
man.
You cray cray.
Cool. Is that one? That's cute. Let's Dave the douche. Makes
good. I love it.
That's great. See, it's using the cocaine riff riff. Yeah,
yes. Inserting Ukraine. Oh, clever. So I've got one clip of
Obama discussing this. He came up with a long obviously a long,
boring exposition on bringing Cuba back. By the way I want to
mention my take on this. I've always felt this Cuban embargo
is crap. It's and I think by isolating a country like this,
it just makes matters worse. But, and I and I've always felt
this way since it began It Should Have Ended like five
years after they started in the 60s. Right? But anyway, so
here's all by his I just took a little bit of this They just
kind of give us a feeling for what Obama's talking about when
he brings it up.
At a time when we are focused on threats from al Qaeda to ISIL. A
nation that meets our conditions and renounces the use of
terrorism should not face the sanction. Third, we are taking
steps to increase travel, commerce, and the flow of
information to and from Cuba information. This is
fundamentally about freedom, and openness, and also expresses my
belief in the power of people to people engagement. With the
changes I'm announcing today, it will be easier for Americans to
travel to Cuba, and Americans will be able to use American
credit and debit cards on the island. Nobody represents
America's values better than the American people. And I believe
this contact will ultimately do more to empower the Cuban
people. Okay, there's
there's some language in there that I think is quite telling.
We are connecting our payment systems to Cuba before anybody
else can connect their payment systems? That's a big deal. I
think that's the biggest part of the whole deal.
Well, I think there's a number of things. I think that's one
item, I think it's very important. I think another item
is the oil. And I think this third item is the QRP. And it
has to be going on in the background. Because the
Canadians have been going back and forth and back and forth to
Cuba. And they're buying up the place. Oh, really? Oh, they but
this has been going on for I don't know how many years. Some
Canadian listener could tell me. But they've been going back and
forth and back and forth, or buying up the choice land on the
beaches for hotels, and doing all the stuff that we should we
should be doing or at least Clinton should be doing. But get
some prime real estate and we're falling way behind. And we're
going to be playing catch up when we finally start. And
that's one of the biggest elements is that Canadians?
Ha ah, I didn't know about this that yes. In fact, a lot of
people
go to Cuba, they go through Toronto, they don't go through
Mexico so much. Because there are better flights out of
Toronto to Cuba. And I could go for example, I could always go
because as a journalist, you can get a visa to go to Cuba but
Dale a tariff did the paperwork going both ways. If you don't
want to, we don't want it on your passport as
I'm, I'm going to stick with the oil and with the the
encroachment by Russia and Putin visiting there just a few months
ago, setting everything up $34 billion. That's more than
Ukraine has received it from the IMF and US and the EU combined.
That's big money.
Well, we're getting shame out of it. Well,
hello. So President Vladimir Putin every month I guess he
does a podcast. Not like a President Obama's podcast. You
know, the three four mid highly everybody hears what's going on?
He does a three hour live show. This is one of the shows where
Ed Snowden once allegedly called in, which was video pre taped
video, but okay. You remember these these shows that he does?
Yeah. And I have a transcript. I have a two pieces. I think it's
important even though it's tough, kind of to listen to the
translator, and stuff in real time. I, since no one else does
it. Except RT, I guess. I think it's important to play just two
clips that were pertinent. And it is a very freeform kind of
discussion. In fact, the BBC is John Simpson stood up and asked
this whole long had a really long question. But the
ultimately he says, I played I'll just play his question, not
the not Putin's answer here.
Western countries almost universally now believe that
there's a new Cold War, and that you frankly have decided to
create that. We see almost daily Russian aircraft, taking
sometimes quite dangerous maneuvers towards Western
airspace that must be done. On your orders. You're the
Commander in Chief, it must have been your orders that sent
Russian troops into the territory of a sovereign
country. Crimea first and then whatever it is that's going on
in eastern Ukraine.
The guy just goes on and on and on. And to me this was scripted
this shirt was you can play the another Parliament flip would
fit right in.
It's kind of funny. They have the audience, the live studio
audience, mainly journalists, and they all have signs with
their broadcast affiliation on them. In France. 24 has, uh,
their sign is with an Eiffel Tower, just holding up the
Eiffel Tower. So I guess the president can say oh, yeah, so
there's the French Guy it'll recognize the the Eiffel Tower
sign. So this sounded very scripted to me in the answer was
long and boring and not very good. Here is something I did
like the bear analogy. Of course, everyone talks about
Russia being the bear and President Putin. Again, it's a
little tough listening to the translator. I think if he really
just set your mind to it for a minute and a half here, it'll
it'll be worth listening to his whole bear scenario, which kind
of wraps up his thinking in one nice bundle, I think,
well, there's no speaking premiere in front of the Valdai
Club was no MEC will meet you. I quoted an example that McCraney
and I mentioned the gods his thing is that sometimes, but I
said, this thing even comes to my mind. She'll just quiet and
just eat.
Are you able to follow it? Now? You into it? Yeah, barely. But
go on. Yes, it's the bear analogy says we just want the
bear to sit quietly and eat it's honey,
counting animals. They will leave the brain piece will do
it. No, they will not. What they tried to do is to change the
bear, when they manage to change the
fangs and claws, which defeats This is how nuclear deterrence
is working at the moment through reviews. We could even hear that
from officials saying that it belongs to Russia. But how can
they say that here's I'm just depressed, that have proven
Texas from Mexico is the right thing
to do. I can't listen to it anymore. You got to listen to it
yourself in the show notes too much.
I find it was they get what she's saying about Mexico.
These are the like they said Siberia belongs to Russia, like
Texas belongs to the USA. And he says look, you took Texas back
from Mexico rightly so. So he brings his whole analogy and he
keeps going about the bear the bear the bear the bear the bear.
And the bear. declawed the bear, but the most
of the you know, this sort of is not as good as our material. No,
the most important question. And by the way, what does anybody
bring up this sovereign Oh of sovereign country? What is our
rolling into Iraq? That's not a foreign army going into a
sovereign country?
We've been inviting crap out of Libya. We've been invited.
You've been invited by Oh, I don't remember the invite. Oh,
you didn't get the memo? No,
I didn't get the memo. Well,
we were invited we Iraq we have a deal with an MOU. We're
allowed to, you know, help them to send in our advisors and our
consultants in our trainers. Yeah, don't you remember we had
like the new guy come in and the old guy went out and then we got
the Go ahead. That guy they hung. Yeah. And just recently
the other guy then it kicked him out too. Yeah,
the guys left kick guys out so they don't go along with our
program as it's fine. And you
have one piece of entertaining. Bloody Mr. Putin. His girlfriend
was in the audience. Oh my god. smokin hot. Huh? She looks 20
She looks 25 She probably will she must be if she looks hot.
And the President was asked about his love life
first impression to have any time for the personal life.
Well, please pass my previous call to welcome to the friends
rooms.
This is shot of her and a friend of
mine from Europe recently told me you know can be used to do
boy loves a little disco when you love. What do you mean? Do
love someone? Yes, I do. And anyone who doesn't love people
who love me. Everything is just fine. Please don't worry. I have
very good relations with Mila Revenger relations we see each
other regularly, of course, with my children and actually
everything is fine as well. Even though I do not see them as
often as I would like.
To describe her look, she was born in 83. I would describe her
look as us see University of Southern California cheerleader.
Is that what she is?
No, but that's what she looks like. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, she's
got that cheer at G Cal Southern California. cheerless. She looks
like a, you know, one of those women. There's millions of them
down there and they all look kind of like this. Very pretty.
It's just I'm telling you, what's Alena? Kub KUB Ava is
that her name? I'm
Lea Alina kabhi viva, and it was born Alina Mira Taverna
she's a gymnast. I think she's a gymnast
that she knows or something.
Oh my goodness. She's a contortionist.
Oh, you know, I dated a contortionist once until she
broke it off.
Yeah. Hey now everybody.
Oh, it's my in the morning. I can't get an end to do here
crashed.
That's part of that's part of the crash system to get you
there in the morning.
And I was Yeah, she is a contortionist. This is there's a
good picture of her on Jim stars magazine. Bench user. Her head
is touching the back of her legs. I saw that. San Diego
strip bar. Yeah.
All righty. All righty then. So if you want the entire
translation of his his show, is in the shownotes 679 Dots. No
agenda notes.com. And I don't think I had much more on see
what else under the F.
I'm looking at his website that's showing this woman daily
entertainment news. And the first comment she is with
another Adolf Hitler. Oh, of course. This time Adolf Putin is
his name killing and hurting people that are trying to live
and work he sends his he sends in his bullies the ugliest men
to hurt innocent people. I really can't wait when they hang
him.
Oh, yes, that henchmen that'll do. That'll be great. His devil
henchmen. I'm getting an email from emails. From many people in
the EU, they're very worried about the the, the obvious
simultaneous collapse of oil and the ruble. And Russians travel,
they travel a lot. They, they certainly come to the United
States, but they also like to travel in the EU. And a lot of
them are not going to be able to travel this year. And a lot of
know now with the ruble collapse. And the way it works,
the way I understand it. The most Russians don't have a
mortgage. I think they own their homes. Because when when Russia,
the former Soviet Union came back, somehow we just had their
shit and they owned it. And the note then you owe any money,
though, as it gets some verification, that thesis.
This is what I've read. I don't know, I haven't looked into it
too, you know, for full on analysis. But they do have a lot
of disposable income. And a lot of that, of course, is that the
Euro Round Robin, you know, they they make money from Germany and
from from other European countries EU with the gas, and
oil, of course, and then they they circulate that back into
the economy and EU. And this is, especially when the President
signs off on the omnibus bill, which includes all these other
great things we've been talking about, but also the derivatives
security before the American banks, I think you're going to
see, in particular Deutsche Bank will. I'm not sure if Deutsche
Bank will be good or not, depending on where they're
operating. But you're gonna see some problems in Europe.
Yeah, and this is a shocker to you.
No, no, not at all. I'm just pointing out the obvious.
Yeah, of course. That's exactly what we want. Yeah, fuck
the EU. Yeah, that's what people don't understand. This is not
about Russia. What it? Well, it's
partly about Russia. But
when you think about it, John, what truly is the currency that
we don't like?
Oh, yeah, we don't like to EU but I mean, the euro. But we
don't like to. We don't also, and the up and coming brick
currency or the SR, DS or any of these. We don't like any of this
stuff, because it ruins our ability to print money. There's
Yes. That is it. All of a sudden that we are the We Are The the
money.
And I Yes, we we are the
money. We're the reserve currency. We are the
money in January 2015. The Eurasian Economic Union comes
into effect. And I believe that may have something to do with
this attack on the on the ruble. This would bring together this
will bring together let me see it's the EU. It's a political
and economic union, five member states we have Belarus,
Kazakhstan, Russia, of course. Kazakhstan. And is that five?
Yes. And I believe that I'm not sure how it works. And I'm not I
have not I've only really just learned about this Eurasian
Economic Union. I didn't really know. I didn't get a memo. But I
think that that is of importance that they the ruble needs to be
as low as possible when this thing kicks off. If that makes
any sense to you
know, you have to explain why it has to be as low as possible.
And this thing kicks off because it's
an economic union. And if they are, maybe they're going to do
let me see, I have an article here. Let me read through this
for a second.
think from our perspective, it would be better we'd be better
we we use our schemers it would be better off if the rule is
highest, when it kicked off and then sync it then. Because then
it would it would hurt the organization having the ruble
low, may have the opposite effect, because it's not going
to stay low forever. No.
If you look at the charts, you're a Chartist. You're a
historian, and certainly when it comes to financials, looking at
the collapse of oil prices, was that did that come? Just at the
same time as the 2008? Great Recession?
No, no oil prices went up. It was only it's very recent, this
collapse of oil prices. I mean, that's why it was so funny about
it, because it's so recent, and just so quick. What do you
think? I think I think it's, I don't know, I have I've been
thinking about it.
You sit around on a Wednesday night before the show thinking,
Yeah, I'm scratching my head,
can I do
the deal with this oil collapse because it is a it has a
profound impact on all sorts of things. And I think it's a
repeat of what we saw a couple of times now. Especially in the
70s when the oil prices collapsed, and resulted in
putting out putting out of business all the shale oil
people that's definitely going to fractures out of business,
it's going to put a whole bunch of people out of business
because they need oil to be in 60 ad, or no, they needed
typically to be over $80 But I think some of these crazy
schemes you need $100 oil and make it work and this is not
going to this you're not going to be pumping oil out of the
ground. It's going to cost you 100 bucks to pump it out. And
you can sell it for 40 or 50 I believe is going to hit the oil
price is going to go down to 40 I personally really Yeah. I said
additional it's a traditional price
it's it's a tradition edition and
it will give everybody and you know the American stock market
is going to getting flaky about this because I don't know but in
fact it will stimulate the economy because people have more
disposable income if they don't tell you is 75 bucks in their
tank every time they go to the gas station or 100 we have
here in Texas of course everything's much cheaper here
certainly taxation cetera we are down to dollars and 11 cents I
saw
right what's the reg me?
Oh premium is going to be 230 I still think
that's the deal. We our best premium is about 280 which is
still going up very good dollars good.
It was five when I left California almost five there's
not just over five for premiums though it was a gym. That's Los
Angeles Jamesville.
Then of course we against gypsies when I say that by the
way? Absolutely not.
Then of course we we had this fantastic attack on chocolate in
Australia. This was really a phenomenal event. This terrorist
and moreover because we have such a large contingent of
producers in Australia, who were really feeding on sending
reports and then scouring the news trying to come up with you
know, angles etc. There had of course not recently but a year
earlier there was there had been a drill in the exact same
location Martin's place for this exact scenario. Very convenient,
right across the way from the ABC Studios where the morning
show is is presented live. It's very, very funny. Funny things
that took place. I let me see I have this is Ali. Are you still
with me, John? Yeah. Okay. This is Ali Soufan. Ali Soufan. He
comes on to I guess it was the CNNs. Then he is an ex FBI
counterintelligence guy. I think it was on the national cutter
and Counter Intelligence Council, and he has a book out,
of course, all the reasons you bring him in, but even he really
couldn't make heads or tails of what was going on with this guy.
And all the things that are wrong, including including the
flag business. Yeah, that's
interesting. What a person who supposedly planned all this and
he gets there and he said, Oh, I got the wrong flag. Something
here doesn't make sense. Scrap I got the wrong flag. It gives us
an idea please. Just an insight about the mentality of that
individual. What? What are you thinking? What about his
mentality? Well, it seems that he's all over the place. He's
he's a criminal, he is trying to cover his crime using religion.
And he seems under a lot of pressure from the court, he
allegedly was involved in about, you know, dozens of police I
forget the exact sexual assaults and then possibly killing his
wife. So he want to go down as a hero, not as a thug and not as a
criminal. It seems to me that there's something fishy about
the individual that investigation is still early on.
I think I'll be, you know, very anxious to see what the
Australian police gonna find out about the motivation about why
he did that. But the flag that he had with him, is basically a
black flag that has a shahada on it. You know, there's no god but
God and Muhammad is his prophet. And that a flag on Black is
basically the original slog of al Qaeda under Osama bin Laden
is now with a nostra the added jump had to nostra underneath it
is the same one was Jabatan nostra the Minister of front
underneath it, and that indicates it is Al Qaeda
Affiliated Organization in Syria. The ISIS flag is a little
bit different. It is black, it has the same terminology, but it
has that circle at the bottom. And it's a little bit different
than al Qaeda flag. It indicates the same narrative. Both of them
indicates the narrative of Osama bin Laden, both of them indicate
the narrative of bin Laden ism if you want to call it but it
depends which a flag you have indicates who's your leader
Baghdadi, or is a wiry?
And it's kind of interesting, how they they've tried a couple
things here in Australia, they had liked the
term bed laden ism.
It's good, isn't it? Yeah. Been there. I don't think this guy
was not really prepared, I guess, to be just came out and
said all the things that he that he knew that he really knows
about, a lot of our producers pointed out that simultaneously
with this terrorist attack with the TV studios, I saw in the
chat room with Channel Seven, also a CNN affiliate and CNN, of
course was all over this live continuously. A lot of people
are saying our producers have been sending me links about the
budget, the midterm budget being presented at the exact same
moment, which was 10 billion Australian dollars over budget,
which is a apparently was not expected and was a was worth
covering up if this had anything to do with it. And this and the
report that Australia has now committed Oh had already
committed before this happened I presume 1.3 billion Australian
dollars to fight Islamic state terror in Iraq. And of course
you need buy in from from the public. And we tried the the the
actors who were running around pretending that they were going
to behead people that didn't work very well. Remember that?
Yeah, Guy was an actor. He was an actual actor. So that didn't
work. And now the headlines are, you know, we are no longer
innocent. We are now a part of this.
So I lose a screwy event.
Mike Morel was on the scene, I think. Was he on the CBS Morning
Show. Mike Morell, of course former CIA director he came on
was asked to comment on this, we're gonna
see this kind of, of terrorism around the world. And we are
going to see it here nor we are going to see this kind of attack
here. And we need to be prepared for that. You know, it shouldn't
surprise people when this happens here sometime over the
next year or so.
No guaranteed guarantee guaranteed. He says it's the
mike.
This is like though, the guarantee that we picked up, I
was 2008 I gotta get that clip.
But I have the clip. Hold on a second. It was what we call it
again, it was
iron stop Feinstein thinking about having a massive 911 Like
event within the next six months.
Now didn't I save that as you had laid the
about a month or two ago? Right. So I'm trying to think that I
it'd be fine Stein it would be Yeah, hold on a second. But one
hack the homeland homeland might be one of the key words.
Wouldn't it be I think would be Feinstein I think Yeah.
Feinstein
is one of the her committee. I've
I've done a great job. Good work. Yeah. Thank you. You're
welcome. I don't know I don't know why. I'm sorry. I don't
know how I messed that up.
Anyway, she asked you all these hot shots, you know, they headed
as the head of that. Would it be a terrorist attack like 911 in
the next six months? And every one of them? Yes, it absolutely
yes. See? What else coming still waiting?
Um, that was how long ago?
I think that was in 2008. Wow. So now you know, it's about,
what, six years ago and it we're still waiting unless you want to
call these bullcrap events, you know something but they weren't
they're not well, I'll add
I will store this Mike morale clip right next to her so we
can't play either one in the future. That'll be great. I'm
sorry about that. Philip Mudd. Philip Mudd, why do I know this
name? And
might I know his name, too? In fact, I think I had a PHILIP
MUDD clip. I haven't I have a PHILIP MUDD clip. Lucy's been
floating around for some reason. I mean, look him up. He must
be a former US CIA guy. Of course, CIA guy is very TV
ready. And of course, he's part of the pond Pro. Program, the
pundit program. So they roll him out for this. I remember
sitting at the table at the agency, we used to do nightly
threat briefings with Director Tennant, the CIA director in
2000 to 2003. And I remember one thing happening that I never
anticipated I thought we were facing the architects of 911.
Then we started to see attacks in Saudi Arabia, attacks in East
Africa, attacks in Madrid attacks in London. And I started
thinking we're not only facing al Qaeda, we were facing
affiliated organizations across Africa, into the Philippines,
into London. And then something happened at about 2008.
Anderson, we started to see in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in New
York, across this country, we started see individuals you
remember on the West Coast, a kid who was thinking about
attacking a Christmas tree ceremony, we're seeing the
genesis of a revolutionary movement that is not connected
to a core group. And if you want to try to find those guys have a
good time because I don't know how you do have a good time
unfathomable. Philip Mudd was the guy that was cited
specifically by the chief, the Chief of Staff of Colin Powell.
Oh, right. Right. Right. Right. Right.
We called tenet a liar. He lied directly to Colin Powell. Mud
was in that same group. Yeah. And he was sickened by muddy
says he's tired of him. Good guy. It's a very funny clip.
Good guy. This this mud guy had
various mud guys. stooge of
what everybody is a stooge. Yeah, I saw on ABC stage done
ABC, ABC World News Tonight. They are now using Radio Free
Europe Radio Liberty footage. There they are literally taking
the propaganda arm of America taking their footage and putting
it on the domestic news. Yeah, with a Chiron legal RFP. No,
it's not illegal. It used to be it used to be an RFP RL. This is
the in fact if you look at I've saved this page Hold on a
second. about Cuba. I think it was me it was about was about
Cuba. Let me say there was no I'm sorry. It was about Ukraine.
That's what it was. This called the who are Ukraine's new
foreign born ministers. So just just to give you the idea of
what's going on here This is Radio few Free Europe Radio
Liberty, which I think many people are confused. I think
that it's very unclear that this is a United States State
Department sponsored paid for operation I believe Millennials
think Oh, this must be like the radical guys you know they're
fighting for freedom press freedom Radio Free Europe, free
Europe free liberty. And they do this rundown. They say three
foreigners Natalie juris dresscode Alvares Abramovich
kiss and Alexandre COVID Seville Lee, were approved as ministers
by Ukraine's parliament on December 2. So these are the
people that that received a citizenship overnight. But they
don't say that in their article. They just say hey, you know,
this is this is who they are. This is why they're qualified.
This is why they're great for the country. Whereas we look at
this news and go holy crap. We are literally putting our people
from the former State Department people into the government but
that's not how this propaganda works. It's fascinating great a
great time to be alive. Here's Cooper Anderson Cooper this my
laps before we leave mud No, I was gonna go back to mud but
okay, good because I have I think I'm gonna send you the
link gonna send it on Skype. I wish I could show it Yeah, you
can do it on Skype. But go Sandtown Scott This is a mud in
2013 on the Colbert show showing apparently didn't never heard of
the Colbert show. So this is makes for nothing but awkward
humor and the guys who just acting like a dick, but did you
send it to me yet? No, not yet. I'm
gonna do that. Now. You want me to play that is that we
wanted to play it but it is I but I placed a clip first.
Oh, okay. But send me that. Link already.
I'm trying to get to this page.
This is his the guy's name is yes received. That wasn't loud
at all. Bring this. I didn't hear it. Well, we might as well
just go straight into this. It's I think it's playing.
My guest tonight is an intelligence analyst who has
worked at both the CIA and the F.
It's a seven minute clip. He wanted to just see how long it
lasts until we're bored.
Yeah. That means both of his shoes, our phones, please
welcome PHILIP MUDD.
Honey, and then apparently much not having any of it because
my didn't know how the hell the show works. Yeah, probably. But
we're gonna add it.
All right, Phil Mudd 25 years in the intelligence world, Deputy
Director of the CIA's Counterterrorism Center from
2003 to 2005, then became the FBI senior intelligence adviser
and you've got a new book here called take down inside the hunt
for al Qaeda, right? Do we really take down al Qaeda or
should it be called spread out inside the scattering of al
Qaeda?
No, I think if you looked at the adversary we faced 12 years ago,
it bears no resemblance to what we see today. The problem is
that we don't face an al Qaeda group today we face the remnants
of a revolution, a revolution.
All right, but I'll I'll skim it for later. I don't think it's
to take a look at it later. So I'm gonna get a good bite of it.
Apparently, he just can't get it that this is a comedy show.
He doesn't see the irony. Alright, did they now we're
going to this guy. Majeed. Now, vos Majeed Nivas. I actually put
his wiki page in the show notes here. He is a I think he's a
liberal Democrat, parliamentarian parliamentary
candidate for Hampstead, and Kilburn, Brit, a founder of
Quilliam, counter extremism Think Tank, himself a former
member of the Islamist revolutionary group, his book,
Tahrir. He's the guy he's the go to guy. He said he came over to
the the good side of history and breathes enough for Anderson
Cooper to ask him all about this terror attack in Australia, and
what should be done about it and what is going on here and he has
a new term
for law enforcement has been saying that this type of lone
wolf attack, is that is that the ones that they're most concerned
with? Do you believe it's a mistake to call this guy a lone
wolf?
Yes, I think it is a mistake, I would use the term self starter.
But the reason I think low
self starter,
a salesman
that he's gonna mention this a couple of times, he was a self
starter lone wolf is out. self starter is a more appropriate
term.
But the reason I think low self starter. Yes. And I think it
doesn't necessarily describe the the phenomenon correctly to use
the term lone wolf, what we saw was a metastasize ation of the
phenomenon. And our worst nightmares came true and ISIL
emerged. Because what we're really dealing with here is a
fundamental inspiration for Muslims to sympathize with the
idea of creating or resurrecting the so called caliphate and
instituting theocracy in Muslim majority countries. And calling
it a caliphate is something we have to make very unpopular. And
that's that's a challenge at the moment as things stand and
you've
always said it's not enough for for Muslims to simply say, Well,
look, I don't believe in beheading hostages. You see,
people have to go farther than that
if we expect non Muslims to speak out against anti Muslim
bigotry. And as as was evidenced in this, I'll ride with you
hashtag campaign on Twitter. How many times do we see Muslim
starting such hashtags? To say actually, we condemn Islamist
and Jihadist terrorism? Instead, what we find is many of my co
religionists say I've got nothing to do with this. Why
should I condemn it? It's not in my name. But if we have that
expectation of non Muslims to condemn things such as racism,
to condemn things such as anti Muslim hate, likewise, we have
to step up to our own responsibilities.
This harsh triggered his former attorney who says that this is a
one off random individual not acting in concert with anyone.
Do you think it's dangerous to kind of just kind of say, Okay,
well, this is a one off thing.
Absolutely. It's very dangerous. I mean, that we have the school
shootings in America as a phenomenon. And again, they
aren't one off, but there is a difference here. And the
difference is that, in the case of Islamist inspired self
starters,
self study as a whole Islam is inspired self starters. Why do
you think he's pushing this meme this self starter
meme? As opposed to Lone Wolf? Yeah.
Well, lone wolf hasn't really worked. I guess it's just it's
no one's afraid
of dogs not gonna work if the lone wolf didn't work. Just
sounds like if you read any one ad for somebody employee,
looking for a self starter, looking for a terrorist, looking
for some guy who doesn't have to be told what to do every second.
Yeah,
exactly. So the definition is right, a self starter
urbanism, an ideology underneath it that inspires There's
multiple one offs and at what stage do these multiple one off
stop becoming one offs? And we start recognizing that we're
dealing with a phenomenon of the atomization of self-starter
Islam as terrorists. Starter ism.
Yes. That goes along with being a self starter ism. Yes. It's
Bin Laden ism and self starter ism.
Wow, this is good to show tidal
self-starter ism. I was thinking, I was thinking, as I
heard this clip, I was watching this interview. Truly, this is
the problem with the Industrial Technology society. Because it's
just like this divorce crap. Because of the speed of
information flow.
You're really bugged by that divorce thing. I think is cute.
It's not
cute because they didn't they made me look ugly. Right. Look,
really?
See, I haven't seen the picture. I'm sure. It's horrible,
horrible job. horrible. It's horrible. I'd like to see it in
the newsletter for people. And the copy.
Actually, it pretty much says, well, he's a podcaster in
Austin, you know, no wonder. No wonder she wants to know that
nothing is old,
old media. Yeah, they're finally getting a clue. Right?
I'm just saying that what? This this is just the beginning, life
is going to get much crazier.
I had much much Craig teaches journalism at the Arizona State
University. And he's always been fascinated by the podcast
because he sees it for what it is is the most modern professor
of journalism. Yeah, thank
you. Certainly.
And he's been read last time I sent him something he says oh,
because I had been you know, the just stunned because he knows
what we're doing is the right thing to do.
No agenda player.com I need to remind people this is a
fantastic resource. I think I've put it back in the in the on the
homepage of the show notes. You can go and someone's annotating
the shows, not transcribed. But annotating, you can contribute
to that you go to no agenda player.com You pick the episode,
you say okay, here's the topic, click and it gives you a link
even if it's not one of the annotated topics as the the show
is playing. You can stop it and there's a link to that exact
spot in the show. And you can tweet it email it is a great
resource exists for exactly this reason.
So the Dutch paper you know, they're a bunch of old hacks and
they know that their days are numbered, which they are and
although in Europe is taking longer than it took here, we
pretty much wiped out everything except the New York Times
Washington Post, which is not owned by Jeff Bezos so they have
you know, at least a sugar daddy to keep them going. But that's
what the you need. Now. You had to have a sugar daddy, you're
not gonna stay in business. I'd settle for a sugar daddy. Yeah,
well, I'm sure you would. A couple others say no to this
couple other great little articles that were of course
snowed under by all of this fantastic news from Australia
which really, really helped. Because of course we have to you
know, we are now on high alert because of this. Is his headline
Islamic State extremists are training five year olds for
combat and Syria. I liked that one thought that was a valiant
effort. But my favorite, my favorite one I wish I had a
clip.
Five year olds. Yes. They're trading talk to a five year old.
Anyway, go on.
Yeah, I talked to a five year old knew what the five year old
said to me. Terrorists, right. They're self starter. Yep. self
starter. I wish I had an audio clip of this. I don't. Islamic
State militants are launching bombs containing live scorpions
as the latest terror weapon in Iraq. That's fantastic. That is
one of the best things I've heard ever. Very, very, very
happy with that. Yeah, very happy.
Now that was a classic discord. I remember the scorpion clip.
Funny.
There was
I think I had something else. Maybe I don't have it. Well,
then, of course, we had Pakistan. And this made me Well,
I hate to say it I would I did not like I really smiled. But
this is exactly what our expert known as the Pakistani guy who
runs the liquor store on the corner. It's exactly what he
said. Do you remember what he said? No, the terrorists. He
said the terrorists are coming. The Tet we know where they are.
It's just a matter of time before we have a terrorist
attack in Pakistan. He said there's not two weeks ago when
we talked about it on the show. Yeah, he knew what was coming.
They all knew was coming. Is everyone knows what's going on
over there.
They talk politics in the coffee shops. We don't do that. We
talked about the card machines and the size of their enormous
rear ends.
John McCain took immediate advantage of this. This attack
in Pakistan, you know,
when you go after civilians, everyone is horrified at the
viciousness this went to children. It just gets even
worse doesn't it
gets worse. And also, it's going to be a lot worse unless we
leave a force behind. Rather than removing everybody from
Afghanistan. We'll see the Iraq movie again. And you'll see the
Taliban inflicting more of these kinds of heinous outrageous,
Gina's the penis
attacks and Murder, Mayhem that they are capable of the United
States should be talking about a stabilizing force behind in
Afghanistan, to give them the capabilities that they don't
have right now and won't have when we hold leave, it should be
a conditions based withdrawal, not a date driven withdrawal.
And that way we can work more closely with the Pakistanis.
I've been encouraged by the new head chief of the Pakistani
army. The Prime Minister seems to be serious, they did carry
out these exercises in Waziristan against the Taliban.
So I think we could get greater cooperation. But right now, they
have a sanctuary. And frankly, there's attacks in the
wintertime, which is unusual. In Kabul and Helmand and other
places. The Taliban has stepped up those attacks. casualties
have been larger, showing that we must leave a horse behind.
He's all about leaving the force behind more force behind we need
to bring some dudes there. What do you got done that can't draw
down now that he's going to be running the committee?
Oh, yeah. Once he's on the head as he as soon as that happened,
he's right. He's going to be running every theory. These
these C span clips are going to be much more entertaining.
And this wasn't even C span.
No, I'm talking about the CCENT span clips of the committee
meetings, whoa,
gains much more entertaining. Bobby, great. There is good
news. In all of this. There is opportunity. John, if this
podcasting thing doesn't work out for us, there is a plan B
and it was sent to me by one of our peerage members. And I have
a promotional clip from the intelligence community.com
website.
So if you're looking for a job in national security, perhaps
you're a recent graduate, or veteran, or a government
employee in between jobs, or a stay at home spouse, it would be
nice to find a permanent job and national security or in the
government. But it seems like everything requires you to have
a clearance and work out of an office building. Nowadays, so
much of what we do can be done remotely, especially when it
comes to analyzing and managing information, translation
services, proposal writing, geopolitical consulting,
business development, recruiting, and the list goes
on. Why not do it remotely as a freelancer? The intelligence
community.com is a new online marketplace under construction
that will help you find these types of opportunities. There's
opportunities
abound John, freelance part time from home.
Ah, we can do this.
Oh, yeah. Proposal Writing is not it's a thrill. Still, if you
go to just intelligence.gov they have a bunch of same. This other
thing sounds like it's kind of a copy of intelligence.gov which
is a government thing, our mission careers, a lot of stuff
on careers, best places to work in the federal government.
Because it's six is a good one. To 2014 best places to work in
the federal government. For the sixth consecutive year, the
intelligence community IC was honored as one of the top 10
best places to work in the federal government. According to
an independent analysis of federal workers job satisfaction
and commitment
Nice. George W. Bush has canceled his trip to
Switzerland. What were fears he might be arrested on torture
charges. He was going to say this and say that. Yes. Well,
that's that. That's the headline. Let me see what who
wrote this home on that Daily Mail. Sorry, that's not that
great. But, uh, he was supposed to go to Switzerland to Geneva
for a charity gala. keynote speaker at the Jewish charity
gala in Geneva on February 12. According to this report to
pressure has been building on the Swiss government to arrest
him and open a criminal investigation if he entered the
country so that has been cancelled. Vice vice never
ceases to amaze me. They have Coming up, I have not seen it
yet an exclusive interview exclusive, where the
psychologist not named in the torture report confirming his
role in CIA interrogations in the program. Vice guys they get
scoop after scoop
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We do have a lot of songs. We have a lot of songs that play
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Oh, let's see. Yeah, I got
a good I got a good segue,
right segue segue baby.
Mega rat Zilla. Okay.
The prowl in the night, thrive on trash and human waste. And
once they move into an area, they're almost impossible to
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outskirts of New York City. wasn't just one stray supersized
rodents, are a sign that a big wave of mega rats is ready to
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It's something to think about a pound and a half road and
running around your home. But think about a six or seven pound
road and running around. That probably would send shivers up
anybody's spine.
A great segue John is happening. Like the killer bees,
six pound rodents to get a note rat, six pound rats, let's get
that straight.
Got a note from John Calvin Jones, Ph. D. J. D. This is a
professor of law. Is that what is that? Am I correct there?
Doctor of Law Doctor of Law. Is that a PhD? That's PhD is a
professor, someone else? PhD JD it says yeah, that means he got
a PhD in something and went off to get his JD he's got two
degrees, two big ones.
Big ones, big ones. Well, that is not so good news for you.
Why? Well, he says you are correct. John did not listen to
the full implications of the idea of an anonymous vote. Yeah,
I'll skip all the I'll skip everything. And let's go to the
end. So please tell John and the end no agenda producers and
listeners that I a PhD in Political Science, University of
Iowa 2003. Recognize that you a true and professional
legislative analyst are correct, sir. That is at least at the
subcommittee and committee level. Anonymous votes would
reduce the influence of corporate control of federal
legislation and or reduce the divergence between congressional
voting and the public public preferences.
I think it would make it worse.
Do you have a PhD in Political Science?
I don't I don't I do not.
Do you have a PhD in English?
I have a PhD who has a PhD in England he actually requested
you do not okay ask. I just thought that was nice. So you
can disagree with the PhD? I mean, who did University of IERS
have to
so this by law?
Yeah.
Let's see. Oh, that the native advertising thing you caught
Toys R Us? Yeah, that's spreading everywhere Walmart has
been using. Everyone's trying to everyone's trying to jump. Oh,
this is great.
Here it is Miss Every man pays $50,000 in Walmart layaway bill,
and then listen and listen to the story. Nearly 100 patrons of
Pennsylvania wall of a Pennsylvania Walmart had an
early Christmas gift given to them by a mystery man dropped
off a $50,000 check to pay off the stores layaway bills. And
notice they don't say of shake shinny Pennsylvania on the
corner of first and main. It's just a Pennsylvania Walmart.
Please. How insulting?
Oh that way. Yeah, that way nobody can check exists story.
Oh, guess
Exactly. And it's all over the place. Crazy Crazy. Oh, the Kony
This is strange.
Kony 2012 Yeah. Kony 2012. Yeah, they should have captured by now
because we can do all these were very powerful country. If we
wanted to get him we could get him because we have cyber spy
satellites everywhere. And the NSA is plugged into everything.
So we can track this guy down and grab him. As soon as that
video came out. You mean that guy? Yeah. And we have
to Osprey raise the tilt rotor aircraft, 300 advisors and
consultants at helping attract down the Lords revolution, Army
and hiding. Meanwhile, Invisible Children. This is the nonprofit
that that produced the video, you'll recall, the the founder
of this was a video producer guy. And he more or less raised
all this money to create videos and make them go viral. They're
shutting down. They're closing down the the operation
didn't work. Well. And we're always skeptical about the viral
aspect of it too.
We're announcing today that the Invisible Children you've known
is changing. We're downsizing the bulk of our US programs and
operations at the end of the year to prioritize our political
advocacy and Central Africa programs through 2015. Then they
go through some kind of this is the guy who was running around
naked. Jumping on cars. When she says it wasn't me. It wasn't me.
I was I was I was an outer body experience. By mid 2012, they
had $26.5 million in revenue $17 million net assets incredible.
By merely macro. By mid 2013. Of course, this is when the
meltdown happened the organization 4.9 million in
revenue less than 6.6 million in assets and all that money go it
making videos and apparently a lot of crystal meth or whatever
else the guy was on when he freaked out. That's a lot of
money.
Yeah, a lot of money to blow through when you're just a phony
operation like that. Yeah.
It's what it is. I have a clip here
we can place another segue. Below you won't play the another
Parliament clip to its end where they're booing.
Why not?
about breaking bad TV tour. I thought this was kind of
interesting. I had no idea people were this stupid.
Normally successful TV drama Breaking Bad puts albuquerque
new mexico firmly on the map. Well, since then, the city has
become something of a pilgrimage site for the show's fans.
Breaking Bad success had a positive impact on the local
economy. But after five seasons and 62 episodes, it's now off
air or local government is trying to keep people
interested.
The series has ended but the famous RV from Breaking Bad is
still alive and kicking. At least a replica of it as this
one isn't the meth lab. It's a tourist bus. over to my left is
the Crossroads
hotel used in almost every season.
These fans paid $75 for the breaking toward
Wow, there's hope for us.
That's how it ends. There's no booing.
Yeah, it was good to hear the booing Not really. There were
three rounds of going boo boo and Boo. That's what they were
doing. They were booing
I received a doctrine root operation that
thing. What thing? That parliament? Fine. Can't they
just be quiet? Let people speak? Oh,
I think I like it. I think it's fun. It's entertaining to watch.
It's it's a scripted show. It's
not even interesting.
I received the document from the Lincoln Nebraska school system.
And of course, schools have changed dramatically,
particularly with what I would call cultural Marxism. But
really political correctness and and how Teachers should be
educating our children. And there's this was sent to me this
is about the, the gender spectrum, the continuum of sex
and gender. And this brings together knowledge of biology
which of course is anatomy chromosomes hormones, where you
have the little graph here, we have male on the left female on
the right and intersex in the middle. This is the school
document gender identity, psychological sense of self to
spirit, third gender, age, gender, with a no gender, a
gender expression, sexual orientation. And then there's 12
Easy Steps on the way to gender inclusiveness. This these are
recommend, I don't know if there are rules or recommendations for
the Lincoln Nebraska school system, but I thought maybe we
should discuss a few of them. I think
this is a great idea. Number one.
Avoid asking kids to line up as boys or girls or separating them
by gender. Instead, use things like odd and even birth dates,
or which would you choose? skateboards or bikes milk or
juice dogs or cats summer or winter? Talking or listening?
invites students to come up with choices themselves. Consider
using tools like the appointment schedule to form pairs or
groups. Always ask yourself, will this configuration create a
gendered space?
What? Yeah,
they always have the teachers must always ask themselves will
this configuration create a gendered space? What does that
mean? They don't know gender space gendered gendered spaces?
I said gender. Now it's gendered with Edie at the end. gendered
and yes, gendered space,
gendered space? Will this create a gendered space? Meaning will
this create what does that mean?
I don't know how I'm looking at this. No definitions. I do see
at the bottom of this. They have a gingerbread man. And it's
called the gender bread person.
Fuck me. Gender red man.
So the gender bread person gender bread, not gingerbread.
The Gen Ed's a gingerbread cookie. But they call it the
gender bread person. You have to see it nevermind.
Bread move on. Er ed or Bre ad?
br e ad?
So gender, gender
or gender? Right and a gender bread makes those What is this?
What are they trying to do?
Well, let's let's go to number two on the list while we're at
it. Don't use phrases such as boys and girls, you guys ladies
and gentlemen. And similarly gendered expression to get kids
attention instead say things like calling all readers or Hey,
campers, or could all of the athletes come here.
Creating a classroom says ladies and gentlemen, I like hey,
campers, a campers
create classroom names then ask all of the purple penguins to
meet it the rug
This is a joke. No, no, nothing from the onion. Hello. It's
not the I'm sorry, ma'am. This is real. No, yes. No. Yes. No.
Okay, it can't be it's real. Yes, this is very real. I like
why don't just Hey slaves that would be better if that would
work. Slave number three. provide an opportunity for every
student to identify a preferred name or pronoun at the beginning
of the year or at a back to school night. invite students
and parents to let you know if they have a preferred name and
or pronoun by which they wish to be referred.
Hey you what
what would prefer the pro name Sue? I
mean I'm not sure what I'm trying to get people to do I
don't know.
Let us go to number four on the list. have visual images
reinforcing gender inclusion, pictures of people who don't fit
gender norms signs that strike out sayings like all boys or all
girls or all genders welcome
well genders welcome.
When you find it necessary, this is number five, will you find it
necessary to reference gender say, boy girl both or neither?
Neither or neither? When asked girl both or
neither. So you can say to what do you want to be called are
both Yeah. But then what do you call somebody? Hey, both get
over here. I mean, what do you call it would you know? Okay,
when asked why. Use this as a teachable moment and for Sighs
to students that your classroom recognizes and celebrates the
celebrates the gender diversity of all students. You celebrate.
That's right. Six. You like this? You won't do some oranges.
It's only 12
us in a mall. It's just disgusting as hell.
Point out and inquire
wonder the country's going downhill.
Oh, yeah. Point out and inquire when you hear others referencing
gender in a binary manner? Oh,
this is like for fifth graders or is this for college students?
What is who is this for? So fifth graders, your fifth
graders? Oh, now you can't use the word girl. You can't use she
no good. Don't use it. Stop it. No, I think
it could be mine could even be for third graders. I think maybe
it
is. Can you imagine these kids by the time they're in high
school if they actually stick to this kind of philosophy
insufferable
when so when someone uses references gender in a binary
manner, ask things like, Hmm, that is interesting. Can you say
more about that? Or what makes you say that I think of it a
little differently. Provide counter narratives that
challenge students to think more expansively about their notions
of gender. This is fantastic seven. Look for examples in the
media that reinforced gender stereotypes or binary models of
gender. They won't be hard they're everywhere. When with
others call it out and interrogate it. How about hey,
that Miss America Pageant?
What the fuck?
Eight. be intolerant of openly hostile attitudes or references
towards others every time you hear or observe them, but also
use these as teachable moments.
Take the simple moments, take the
opportunity to push the individual on their statements
about gender. being punitive may stop the behavior, at least in
your presence, being instructive, may stop it
entirely. Three more. Nine teach children specific language that
empowers them to be proud of who they are, or to defend others
who are being mistreated. Such as, please respect my privacy.
Or you may think that but I don't. Or you may not like it,
but I do. Or, hey, they're called Private Parts for a
reason. Oh, man, what they're called Private Parts for a
reason. In other words, it's private what I am or how I
identify. In the gym on the gentleman I
was a kid they had the big you go to pee and then you'd have a
shower. Yeah. And it'd be just a big open shower but you're naked
kids roaming around.
Just can't do that anymore. I don't know, doesn't say anything
about that. Help students record plied. Help students recognize
all or nothing language by helping them understand the
difference between patterns and rules. Teach them phrases like
that may be true for some people, but not all people or
frequently but not always, or more common and less common.
Avoid using normal to define any behaviors. It can be normal.
Know that it can be something that may be true for some
people, but not all people frequently
but not always. share personal anecdotes from your own life
that reflect gender inclusiveness even better share
examples when you are not gender inclusive and your thinking
words or behaviors, what you learned as a result and what you
will do differently next time. I'm sorry, I didn't I was gender
exclusive. Finally, well,
that may be true for some people, but not all people. It's
more
common or less and less common. And finally, do the work
yourself. What are your own experiences with gender? What
might be some of your own biases? What assumptions do you
make about gender of others share reflections about your own
evolving understandings of gender. Hey, campers, let's talk
about my own understanding of gender today. Wow.
All right. Well, that was a good little list. And that's in
Nebraska. Can't imagine what's going on in California. Mm hmm.
The sofa that's that's about it is written by ice. Written by
Ms. Bill Williams.
I hope it wasn't duped. I think I think that's real refers
to doesn't use pronouns. Or you're a chooses his own
pronouns and nouns chooses or he she got a love chooses it. You
gotta love it. That's pretty insulting. Yeah. But that's what
it said.
What else you got? Boy? How are we doing on time? Now? You can't
be I have one more clip. Let me see what we have
gone through all my clips which is rare. Yeah,
I think you have
I didn't have a lot of clips then
I have let's see what can still be good. Well not not
necessarily clip i i did parse through the United Nations IPCC
adura The Lima Peru agreement. We didn't get to this on Sunday.
Everybody was in Lima, you know that this was another one of the
big
guests, including Amy Goodman, who was reporting from Lima.
And everyone was there and, and they were supposed to end on
Friday, and they didn't have an agreement. It was freaking out.
And so they they stayed all night Saturday and came up with
a with a thing on Sunday, and I put the paper the the agreement
into the show notes. This is the Conference of the Parties 20 the
session Lima one through 12 December 2014, a report of the
ad hoc Working Group on the Durban platform. It's so obvious
that this is such bull crap, because no one really wants to
commit to anything. Because it means that we'd have to send
money to poor nations, typically in Africa. So there is no
outcome. They have what they call a good framework for the
2015 meeting in Paris. And this this thing is filled with Well,
I think I'd
like to go to that one.
Yeah, to get our hair done with with everybody else. Perfect for
that. Nobody gets
that joke.
The hair done.
Yeah, that's referred this as for new newbies to the show.
This was a reference to Hillary Clinton.
Yes, she used to go to Paris and her hair would look dynamite. So
the whole document is filled with reiterating recalling
affirming, noting our favorite underscoring urging,
acknowledging there's pretty much nowhere in there that
really agrees Oh, yes. agrees that each party's intended
national nationally determined contribution towards achieving
the objective of the convention, as set out in its Article Two
will represent a progression beyond the current undertaking
of that party. which I think means we all promised to do
better. Is this this is really to me. proof that this is
bullcrap. No one wants to do anything.
Well, they know they don't want to talk a big game. They
really, really, really don't want to do anything.
Well, I don't even know why it's no, the whole thing is ludicrous
in so many, so many different angles.
And I don't think I don't think I think I'm out.
Okay, well, that's good. We did the show. It doesn't mean we
have to just stretch forever.
Well, I had two things you tell me if you're interested in one
is Matt and Jen, talking about Turkey's NATO membership. Now
that they are friends with Russia. Want to join the
Shanghai cooperate cooperative organization? Little back and
forth from Jen and Matt.
I loved this. This is the show this is the oh this Janice is
not Marie.
No, it's not Matt. We don't Yeah, it's the mountain Henry
show. But But Marie is no longer in the show.
One of the prerequisites for being a member of NATO or at
least a member in good standing in NATO is to be a
democracy.
Are you concerned at all this backsliding that you're seeing
in Turkey that you've expressed concern about might hurt turkeys
standing in NATO as a good solid number? No, no, no. So in other
words, they can go around and detain as many journalists and
cops as they will I love
how he sets her up. Get her to say no is it Oh really? That's
okay. You're a dumb democracy if you arrest journalist and an
arrest cops and
and try soccer club supporters for trying to overthrow the
government by attending a what you'd say is illegal protest.
And it has no implications for them, or any other NATO member.
It's not the same thing was going on in there and there
is a democracy. As I mentioned, a number of these important
values like media freedom, due process, judicial independence
are enshrined in the Turkish constitution,
so that they're actually respected. I mean, there's a lot
of things and trying to
eke out as do others We have concerns about the
implementation of these pieces. But it does not mean that they
don't continue to be an important ally and NATO partner.
There you go. It's not a problem. Interesting. Yeah.
All right. All right. I think we should end the show today. For
this. This particular episode is going to be very interesting to
see what happens for the next program, which will be 380.
That'll be on Sunday. And I may have more info from the back
channel, The New York channel with the North Korea through
Don.
I think that will be very entertaining and very
interesting and probably incredibly unique. Compared to
what everyone else is doing, which is just running around
there, waving their hands in the air and yelling,
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