get an automatic chick magnet. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Sunday, December 14 2014. Time for your gizmo nation media
assassination episode 678.
This is no agenda,
celebrating sequential annual numerical patterns and fewer
region six, the capital of the drone star states, Austin, Texas
in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody's slipping and
sliding. I'm John C. Dvorak. Craig bobbin, Buzzkill. You got
freeze? No, I've just started say that.
Why, wow, they really don't record the weather anywhere
else. It's freezing and frosty. Wow. All right. So we start off
with some legislation right off the bat, John, just to get it
going. Just everyone can get into the mood.
On average, just put, let me pull up my Greenpeace stuff
first. I've got plaster all over the house
and your Greenpeace stuff. You know, I'm familiar with the
story, I guess. And I'm very familiar with the story. But
I I've decided to put those signs everywhere.
I wanted to want to read a little piece of legislation
while everyone was paying attention to what are we paying
attention to? Oh, yes. We had the torture report. What else do
we have? We had the never ending torture. Torture is yes. The
spending bill. We had a little spending bill that I guess last
night they they decided okay, good to go. We'll we'll sign off
on that.
After a long theater theater, like Sure. Well, of course.
Sure. Rod. A Sure. Rod.
There was also another act that passed that didn't get a lot of
attention. is Bill 4681. Passed the I believe that has now
passed the House and the Senate
and the House Bill 4681.
Let me check. Yes, it is. And this is the short title is the
intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2015.
This sounds good already.
Yeah. And there is a there's a couple of things in here. You're
increasing employee compensation benefits. Let's see. software
licensing. I gotta make sure everyone's paid. But then
section 309. Which in the final bill, this bill, in the final
version of the bill is actually titled correctly. It was Miss
titled up until this final version. I'm wondering if I have
the MS title was actually funny. And that's why I think it
escaped a lot of people's attention. Let me see if I
happen to be able to find the missed title. It was very cute.
I can't find it offhand. It doesn't matter. It is now
correctly titled procedures for the retention of incidentally
acquired communications. Yeah.
It's already a winner. It's incidental.
This of course, you will find marked up in your show notes at
678 dot no agenda notes.com. The best place to find all the show
notes is archived at no agenda notes.com section 309 procedures
for the retention of incidentally, acquired
communications we need some some definitions first, John, as you
know, this is how legal documents work. And as a legal
groupie, i i fawn over this stuff. A definition is in the
section covered communication. So this is the communication
section 309 is going to be talking about the term covered
communication means any nonpublic telephone, or
electronic communication acquired without the consent of
a person who was a party to the communication, including
communications in electronic storage. I think that pretty
much covers everything, doesn't it?
Right. Sounds pretty good. Yeah, pretty comprehensive
right down to electronic storage, I think that is known
as the cloud. Then we have another definition head of an
element of the intelligence community. This is the people
who are allowed to authorize this. That can be the head of
the intelligence community or the head of the department or
agency containing such elements. So again, pretty much everybody
know the definition United States person. Now of course, we
know what a United States person is this this term is relatable
to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978. So a
United States person is any person but also any company, any
entity that is a legal entity in the United States. And then we
have the procedures for the covered communications. Here's
where it gets interesting. The application of the procedure
shall apply to any intelligence collection activity, not
otherwise authorized by court order. So when I saw this jumped
out at me, this is part of my Tourette superpowers. These
words just what? So if the if there's no court ordered no
warrant for a surveillance or intelligence collection, as they
call it here, that would fall under the not otherwise
authorized. I guess that would also be like emails between you
and I, if there was no warrant?
Yeah, then I just happened to stumble on him somehow by
accident by looking at him.
It's even better than that. Let's see. So not otherwise
authorized by any of these processes that is reasonably
anticipated to result in the acquisition of a covered
communication to or from a United States person, and shall
permit the acquisition, acquisition, retention, and
dissemination of covered communications subject to the
limitation in paragraph B. So this is for any communication
outside of court orders. That and this permits the
acquisition. So by going to, for instance, Google and saying,
hey, here is the law that has been signed, it hasn't been
signed yet. But we're expecting the President to sign this into
law. I have written here I can acquire and retain and
disseminate this communication because it's falls under the
definitions of covered communications. A give that to
me. And this is and the limitation on retention is five
years, however, you can do longer than five years, and this
is my favorite. Retention is necessary to protect against
imminent threat to human life. In which case both the nature of
the threat and the information to be retained shall be reported
to the Congressional Intelligence Committees not
later than 30 days after the date, such retention is extended
under this clause. Now we know what the eminent means these
days. Do you remember
is just about anything he doesn't mean anything is about a
really mad I mean, it doesn't
imminent means it doesn't even have to be approvable threat. It
just if it's assumed,
like this 16 year old kid, American citizen gunned down by
a drone in a public Cafe
imminent threat, he you never know what he was doing. Yeah, he
knows what and so they can do all this. And then don't even
have to report on it until 30 days after the fact. And that's
section 309. Everybody.
So what do you think is new about this? It's makes it so
important.
It leads it legitimizes Wow, okay, it legitimizes acquisition
and retention of communications between United States persons
United States person
asked law because they're doing this anyway.
Well, okay, you can see it as such. Yes. But this is exactly
the piece that has always been debated. We don't collect
anything if there's a US person involved in it but US persons if
there's no foreign
well they never said that or they usually say on purpose
well now it has this this is for anything for any communication
not otherwise authorized. So then now the end it can be
United States personally does not have to have a foreigner
involved in the covered communication. So I think it is
new
10 bucks just doesn't pass
well it's passed all it has to do now is be signed by the
president he's gonna line item veto this or something. This is
bad. This
is either not gonna sign I don't know. I don't know what the
Senate's looked at it. Yes.
I'm pretty sure Hold on. Let me take a look. Yeah, I am pretty
sure that this has passed both houses.
I don't think so.
Okay, I could be wrong. Mr. What is this password? What does this
bullcrap look at a password stick. Let me see what I'm, I
thought it passed both houses. John's
looking here. I'm looking at the HR 4681. Gov track. Yeah,
exactly. 4681. What do we have going in there as well?
Barbara Lee voted no.
Wow. It must have been no money in it for her. Yes. Past house
past Senate. They've now they're resolving differences, which I
think is the one I just read to
you. Prognosis on a golf track has 31% chance of being enacted?
Well, it has passed both houses. So there's a that gives it a
good chance. Regardless, the representatives pass this,
they don't care. They don't care about the public. Yeah, I even
knew this was going on and she was claiming this is Mike
Rogers. Yes, I know.
It's his bill. Isn't that great? One more before I become a DJ
this guy's living in a dream world he can
he can probably go on the Hey everybody. It's Mike Rogers here
on the Premiere Radio Networks. Yes, I am the author of HR four
six anyone's Caruso. Do babassu
Okay, the last day okay, yeah, this thing doesn't keep up with
things. This has been going on most of the year.
I was this was in committee I guess a lot, which makes sense.
And the committee's of course would be
was in committee in May in May, and it's getting kicked out and
it was in Senate committee in July. It was taken forever.
But here it is. Alright. Just just just a warm up
to cover your ass bill. It's just the same thing with the
wood. I do have a couple of last minute annoyances. Okay about
the stupid Spygate. Should I call it that? Oh, well,
I call it to rectal rehydration gate.
rehydrate. Now the rehydration was only one it's defeating.
That was the one that is stuck to Hamas. Rectal feeding you
guys like hummus? Oh, you Arab you like hummus?
Can I play one clip before you get into a play because I had
this as a hatin on Jake Tapper. Let's, first of all, that let's
let's let's differentiate if we can for the sake of this
conversation between the abuses the things that were not the
sound authorized, such as the rectal rehydration stop. Okay,
that was a medical procedure that was done because of
detainee health.
This, this gets so good. This is so good. Wait till you hear what
winter medical procedure.
It's the people responsible there for the health of these
detainees saw that they were becoming dehydrated. They had
limited options in which to go do this. It was intravenous with
needles, which would be dangerous with a noncooperative
detainee. It was through the nasal passage
rain, Hamas and pine nuts. And,
Jake, I'm not a doctor, and neither of us told us this is
one of the ways that the body is rehydrated. These were medical
procedures and to give you a sense really defending Michael
rehydration, but I'm defending his history.
It's not rectal rehydration. Its history. I thought that was the
best exchange I've ever seen on television.
Yeah, that's actually border link Tip of the Day. Well, you
don't have to give it to me if you don't feel I'm not okay. I
thought that was just great hummus and pine nuts. you're
dehydrated son needed some hummus and pine nuts not
a doctor and neither are you. I'm not a doctor. You got to
pull that little sub segment out. Was it I'm not a doctor and
neither I loot use that was I think it was it was part again.
Oh, that's good. But I started cleaning it up almost like can
we get it back? Okay, it'll just take a moment. Let's first of
all, let's uh,
let's let's differentiate Camilla, Camilla, Jake, Tammy.
And we can for the sake of this conversation between the abuses
the things that were not authorized, such as the rectal
rehydration stop
that was a medical procedure that was done because of
detainee health that the people that responsible
you don't look so good some people there for the health of
these are like Hamas UAE Rab
detainees saw that they were becoming dehydrated. They had
limited options in which to go duty we can isolate this
intravenous with needles, which will be dangerous with a
noncooperative detainee. It was through the nasal passage
rain hummus and pine nuts and Jake
I'm not a doctor and neither are you. But that's it.
Jake, I'm not a doctor. And neither are you.
It sounds like the old Star Trek show does. But Dr. Jim
I'll see if I can if I can splice them together.
There is one floating around the internet where he worried he go
McCoy goes the whole of them he barely dropped the seasons he
would say is I'm not this I'm an engineer. And neither are you or
not I'm not a psychiatrist or something. Yeah.
And neither are you. Dude, are you Oh
yeah, well so I'm watching the I tried watching the tail end of
this and I finally got fed up and I decided to pull my clip
which I left out of the last show because I had to go find it
and then I had to cut it and I had to produce it because it was
what it was and I
can tell that you were irritated you know how I can tell no all
caps. You can see if I look at the timeline. Oh, I'm gonna look
so I had the clips in alphabetical order. But if I
look at them in by creation date, let me see. Oh, hold on a
second. This is good. I
said, I don't know if I should keep going. He's all caps. He's
gonna call me out on $1 bet
with yourself. Yes. Okay, which one is it? All right.
I got it. I got it for shorties because Shields and Brooks. I
figured at least one of these two guys weren't going to be
apologist for
another shoe is this. What is this
news our commentators that come on Mark Shields. Some of these
are
liberals either one of them have a bowtie
No, but shields should. Okay. All right. And actually both of
them should they both have bow ties that make sense. And then
Brooks, they've the columnist for the New York Times. And then
I was so disappointed that neither one of them again, both
on the same side of the debate, oh, and the thing that keeps
cropping up, even though I don't know if these clips continued, I
know the next one does is all they knew there. And yeah, I got
sick of it because Rodriguez and oh, they were brief 65 times.
The Senate knew the Senate knew what was going on. They knew
what was
going on. I knew what was going on. They keep harping on this.
So that's got on my nerves. So please, Shields and Brooks one
for starters, to show where they're coming from
Trump's killing is worth probably worse than torture,
those moral laws, except for extreme extreme cases, in my
view, just very quickly to both of you the CIA comes out of this
how the CIA comes out of it, I
think damaged and molded. I think that's what John Brennan
is trying to do.
What? What he's trying to damage him and wound him. What he said,
Yeah, I wonder if that's just a Freudian slip, or
is it Freudian slip? Um, okay. Okay. So
you would say, I'm not so sure about that.
So let's try.
If I would, if it were me, you would counter that
I would do the same thing. Yes. I would Shields and Brooks to
this to a disk started this where I started to get annoyed
grading other human beings who do that every day and do it.
Well. It wasn't just the CIA. It was the whole country. I mean,
there was a lot of people.
Hey, were you were you regularly hydrating with Hamas political
chain, a lot of people in Congress, a lot of people in the
public. And so we're trying to rediscover a moral center,
trying to rediscover a moral center. It's just
a public that did this. This is all your fault. All right. So
then I go, I hope these guys are sold out. Yeah. Because blaming
the public and all the rest of it. And so then I decided, well,
that's Al Jazeera definitely is not going to be like this. But
was I wrong? Yes. Woolsey. Echo one of the ex CIA guys standing
up for his buddies. The threesome that were in charge
during this. Peter who was Woolsey again, was he was a CIA
director. He was a director. Big Three. He was one that came
later I believe.
He was short I don't think he was in very long was he
was short time to clean look and got out.
Report from Woolsey. Woolsey on
report up to final question for you. One of the big parts of
this report was accusing the CIA of misleading Congress and
civilians. The CIA, by nature, its clandestine, has clandestine
operations, it needs to hide things that are going on. But
does it need to hide things from Congress and from the American
public?
I take at their word, the three former directors who signed the
letter to the Wall Street Journal today along with some of
their other senior colleagues, that they had fully informed the
Congress and I think that it would be ridiculous of them not
to inform the Congress of some major step like this I could not
conceive of they're not having done so. But the people who
spoke and the people who were spoken to No, again, it is
really an extraordinary that the people who put this democratic
majority report together for the Congress did not talk to a
single person inside the government in the CIA or
anywhere else who was involved in pulling this program
together. They decided to edit things the way they wanted. So
it would say what they wanted it to say and that is
extraordinarily deceptive as far as I'm concerned.
That seems like that's what happened to me too. That seemed
the other reason why people don't care about this these
kinds of reports it because they don't give a shit no, it's not
it's not produced properly. If you want to get people's
attention here's how the report should sound final question for
you labile Santa accusing the misleading that's how that's how
you get people's attention.
Meanwhile, of course to him and everybody else is throwing the
committee under the bus of the drawing was Feinstein got is
established long term supporter of the CIA thrown under the bus
all the rest of and keep you hearing this nonsense about oh,
they were fully informed. They knew what was going on. They
knew this. They knew that. And we already had the the staff guy
from Powell call Colin Powell was chief of staff saying
they've got that tenant, Georgetown was just a liar. But
okay, let's just ignore that. So let's let's listen to the the
Senate Committees, code that not to the Vice Chair, Jay
Rockefeller. This is clipped down a little bit because he
went on for an hour. But here's here is an example of how well
informed they
were. Now. Do you want the summary or the
summary the summary? Sorry, that was very
hard fight to get to this point, especially in the early years as
the CIA's detention program. It was a struggle for the
committee. Due to get the most basic information or any
information all about the program, one of the profound
ways that the breakdown happened was through the act of
subversion of meaningful congressional oversight. They
further refused to notify the full committee about the
program's existence, you remember, there was always the
Gang of Four, the Gang of Six, the Gang of Eight, they take the
chairman and vice chairman, take them down to the White House,
give them a flip chart. 45 minutes with the Vice President,
off we go. Senator Roberts might want to see
this flip chart, then here's your pine nuts. And here's your
hummus. And here's your rectum
that showed nothing. He is YouTube hard,
were instructed, we couldn't talk to each other. On the way
back from one of those meetings. It was absurd. They further
refused to notify the full committee about the program's
existence. You remember, there was always the Gang of Four, the
Gang of Six, the Gang of Eight, they take the chairman and vice
chairman, take them down to the White House, give him a flip
chart and
you just say that double up per se,
I must have screwed up. Play that played out
45 minutes with the Vice President. Off we go. Senator
Roberts and I went down by car and were instructed we couldn't
talk to each other on the way back from one of those meetings.
It was absurd.
Of course, we didn't do a question question. That seems
now that it's very hard for anyone to really get to a
central focus of this. We have. One is what is torture? What is
not torture? Two Who authorized who did not authorize three?
Who, who lied to whom? Was it effective? And is this RBR? The
moral compass? What? I think there's too many things, no one
can focus on one thing. So if the media now is saying, hey,
turns out CIA, they had shills given us false information. Wow.
When the Pentagon calls and says we have a guy we'd like you to
put on as an expert. Does that ring a bell anywhere? Is that?
Is this really what the media is now claiming?
Yeah, yes. I mean, it's astonishing. I can't believe it,
how now.
But the thing that I keep coming back to John, this is now where
the NSA was a year ago. Here's what the CIA is. And I have
people who disagree with me about this NSA CIA fight, but it
seems so obvious this is Counter Strike. It makes
sense that it is. So let's play the rest of that. And then we'll
well this ended I have I have Jay Rockefeller testimony clip.
I'll play that. I'm sorry. It's a piece of it. That shouldn't be
well, it does. We don't have to go any further. But you get the
idea. The committee was not informed. The obfuscated they
wouldn't let people talk to each other in the full committee was
never informed. It was the so these guys didn't know anything.
And they couldn't get any information. He goes on to
discuss it they wouldn't get they asked for this. They asked
for that. If it's annoying that this is the wrong clip.
Well, do you want to listen to the testimony clip, maybe it's
very hard fight to get to this point, especially in the early
years the CIA's detention program. It was a struggle for
the committee to get the most basic information or any
information all about the program. The committee study of
the detention program is not just the story of the brutal and
ill conceived program itself. The study is also the story of
the breakdown in our system. Madam president of governance
that allowed us
at Feinstein's was just talking there in the background is not
there. I thought it was President
of governance that allowed a country to deviate in such a
significant and horrific way from our core principles. One of
the profound ways that the breakdown happened was through
the act of subversion of meaningful congressional
oversight. A theme mirrored in the Bush administration's
warrantless wiretapping program during that period, I first
learned about some aspects of the CIA's attention
interrogation program in 2003. When I became vice chair of the
committee at that point, and for years after the CIA refused to
provide me or anybody else with any additional information about
the program, they further refused to notify the full
committee about the program's existence. You remember, there
was always the Gang of Four, the Gang of Six of the Gang of
Eight, they take the chairman and vice chairman, take them
down to the White House, give them a flip chart. 45 minutes
with the Vice President. Off we go. Senator Roberts night, went
down by car and were instructed we couldn't talk to each other
on the way back from one of those meetings. It was absurd.
They refuse to do anything to be of assistance. The briefings I
Pre receive proceeded little or no insight into the CIA's
program questions or follow up requests were rejected and the
times I was not allowed to consult with my counsel.
All right, kind of goes on and on. Indicating, of course, that
if the media listened to his testimony, they would maybe be a
little more less lenient, as well. They were informed a we
knew they knew everything. We briefed them hundreds of times
now, like
he didn't actually say this in public that it was on C span or
anything like you could kind of hear him say that or read even a
transcript of what he said. Right? Well, okay, so your
surprise is what you're saying.
I'm stunned.
If Don, Uncle Don, now known to the uncle formerly known as
Uncle Don, road, he sent me an email. Do you think I should
write a letter to the editor of the New York Times? And I think
I probably fucked up. What did you do? Well, I said, Yeah, but
no, oh, you should
have said no, that's what I said. I
said, No, I don't think it'll make any difference. I think the
New York Times is all in on everything.
And I gotta read his letter. Well, they did. Oh, no,
they did He say, Would you like me to read it to you? It's not
that long.
You're gonna keep me keep teasing me all day, the whole
show to the
editor regarding CIA director rebuts report calling
interrogators patriots front pages number 12. As someone who
spent 31 years as a Central Intelligence Agency operations
officer in 1951. In 1982, I speak in support of what John O
Brennan, the CIA director tried to do on Thursday, he reminded
us that the CIA works for the notice. He's saying the CIA
works for the executive branch of the government and that the
agency had been ordered by President George W. Bush to
become both jail keeper and interrogator of suspected
terrorists, things that had never done before. In addition,
the Bush administration's Attorney General Albert R.
Gonzalez, aided by the Justice Department lawyer, John C, you
constructed a legal framework. That's my favorite word allowing
quote enhanced interrogation techniques to be applied to
selected prisoners and asserting that these techniques including
waterboarding did not amount to torture. Mr. Brennan's remarks
raised the question of why the CIA was ordered to do these
things in the first place. So you hear he's going right
during, during my career, including service and wartime
Vietnam, the agency worked against torture. And I
personally saw repeated evidence that humane interrogation
produce far better results than torture, which sowed only
confusion shattered lives and bitter feelings. I will say when
I read this paragraph, if he's telling me that he personally
saw repeated evidence that humane interrogation produce far
better results than torture, that means he must have
witnessed the results of torture.
You could infer that the
painful answer to the question of why is that President Bush
and Vice President Dick Cheney, having failed to prevent 911 in
the first place, lost faith in America's ability to deal
traditionally with the crisis that occurred on their watch,
and ordered actions to be taken that are alien to the basic
nature of our country. The question must be asked, why did
we lose faith in ourselves and what can be done to prevent that
from happening again? Donald P. Gregg writers, former United
States Ambassador to South Korea, and I told him don't
write the don't write, it's gonna be the first of all, who
reads the letters to the editor? Other letter writers? Yeah. And
the editor, presumably,
presumably, maybe.
But it is true that
but got approved by the by the agency to go into the New York
Times. Oh, there you go. So he if nothing else, he did get the
CIA guys currently operating it. So he's doing two things he's
saying gentian and maybe he can push a little bit for that North
Korea thing?
Well, he's saying two things. One is Bush W we hated and hate.
And Cheney.
They blame highly of him either and bid
on them. No, he does not think highly of him. But he's the
question he asked. I think there is this is, although we can give
them the answer. Why did we lose faith in ourselves and what can
be done to prevent that from happening? We don't care. We
watch movies where we were the badass we got football games
with military halftime and starts and and flyovers fly bys.
And we are a sadistic, militaristic jibber Ionis and
what can be done about it? I like it. I don't think it can be
turned back. Well, but anyway, so I told him, don't do it. And
then he did it. And I have a feeling that he's
I'm glad that he takes your advice. There's my
there's the podcasters influence on policy everybody everywhere.
Now
the point that I made my point is that I'm sick of these guys
with this and I'm so disappointed AlJazeera I mean, I
thought they and they were all in on on attacking Feinstein in
the report. And they had Woolsey on I don't know where they dug
him up. But they did and
what do you what do you expect AlJazeera to be doing?
Well, I thought they do. I mean, they do promote themselves as a
little more newsy than the regular outlets, please. Okay.
Okay. The only one that seems to be actually newsy.
That's it nice. Hey, that's actually a great a great way to
do it. Al Jazeera. We are born newsy.
They are, or they were released. Well, anyway, they've dropped
down in my estimation. Meanwhile, if you go to some,
some of these, play this one is did you know this? I mean,
there's all these different numbers flying around, but play.
This is an analyst. And of course, this guy shows up on RT
and they're not playing the game. Because they're one of the
propagandists for Russia, they're newsy. And well, they're
actually not very busy at all their property. But they have
this little guy comes on, he's like, he's, I think he's Irish
or something. Or he's got a very strange accent, because he can't
pronounce certain things. But he comes on to it. But he's an
analyst for like a human rights guy plays 60 countries,
60 countries, could dokie you don't know who he is, I like to
look these people up.
We knew already, you know, that we have done a global study
together for the United Nations in 2010. And we have ways of
making them talk on secret detention in the fight against
terrorism. And we identified 66 states around the world that
have been using secret detention. And that means
usually also torture in the fight against terrorism. And of
course, many of those states were closely related and
cooperated with the United States of America. Yes, you
must understand that we are truly we have control of
everybody in two times 33 countries. It sounds like it's
Austrian
66. So it's like, wow, why even bother cover and
you name 66 countries?
I probably would take a while if you want me to do it.
Okay, I'm just, I'm just surprised. Sure. I
can come up with 66.
Well, you mean, just tying into this unless you have some other
big rig. I had it. The President every year has to inform
Congress, the entire Congress, I guess he maybe it is just the
House of Representatives about you know, the War Powers
resolution, how he's using the War Powers, which again, is a
resolution. Hey, and remember, you said I'll go ahead and you
can all do. You can do some stuff a little bit your
authorized use of military force, we have to do this
report. Six Month consolidated War Powers Resolution report,
man, we are in some great places. You want a little
overview of what we're doing? Yeah, I'd
love to know where we are. This is good. Okay.
Afghanistan. We currently have I'm summarizing, obviously, we
have the 15,000. People station, the drawdown should take us to
about 9000. At the end of 2015.
About I interrupt you Sure. Did you notice you know, we talked
about on the last or the show before about how now Afghanistan
is like producing 95% of the world's heroin and
100. I thought it was over like 120% increase in the doing
everything
this way up here. Yeah. You think that's coincidental with
what we observed earlier about the one guy they swapped
Bergdahl for oh, yeah,
he was. He was the runner. He's a superstar. The Tali bond,
Poppy superstar. Yeah, he's a
superstar. They bring him in, they bring him in, boom, sales
are up,
which is called the pop star, pop star star. So approximately
15,000 US forces in Afghanistan, we are on track to draw down to
a force management level. Not quite sure what that means. But
9800 by early 2015, but this may, you know, over it may
fluctuate overlap because we're rotating in or out and fine.
Okay. We have a memorandum of understanding with the
government to stay in there, hang out and we'll be there for
a while. Iraq and Syria 3100 personnel and these, of course,
are only providing training, communication support
intelligence support via the training means that you're you
have a gun, you're standing next to the guy and you're saying
watch how I do this. That's about right. But Somalia. See a
small, small, continue to squeeze, don't pull, hold your
breath. So we have some special operations forces who've worked
to counter the terrorist threat posed by al Qaeda. Oh, that'd be
al Shabaab, of course. Yemen. Now he's not giving numbers at
this point. He's only just saying yeah, we got. We've been
working closely with the Government of Yemen to Operation
dismantle and ultimately eliminate the terrorist threat
posed by al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. I love how that al
Qaeda group is just so decimated Kuba. Of course, that would be
Guantanamo Bay, where we still have 142 detainees that was
going to be closed and Gitmo thing of Niger bank.
Yeah.
We have nice air, where we continue to provide support for
intelligence collection and facilitate intelligence sharing
with French forces. conducting operations. We have a shard Is
that how you pronounce it? Chard, chard. Chad, you say Chad
really doesn't sound right. I say. We're intelligence,
surveillance reconnaissance operations. Oh, of course, the
Lord's Resistance Army. You'll recall that the Kony 2012 The
video of that went so Bogota, viral, everybody was talking
about it. We've got us sprays in there we have 300 Guy catch that
guy. 300 Because it's not about colony. But okay. Yes, it's all
about the NRA affected areas. So we have to Osprey is we've got
300 troops in there who of course only working to partner
with the the Ugandan forces. Egypt 700 military personnel
there. I think they're pretty much just to receive the sales
shipments. It's just a sales office, I think in Egypt. Hey,
we got the new stuff in you guys ordered. Jordan 1700 US military
personnel, they will remain in Jordan and full create
coordination with the Government of Jordan until the security
situation becomes such they're no longer needed. Well, that
would be pretty much never Kosovo, we are still in Kosovo.
Oh, since 19. Ma what? When did that end? The Kosovo theater?
Nine? I'm
not sure
we have for almost 5000 people there. Wow. Oh, 4k for the
Kosovo, we got
to get into a sec gotta be protected.
And and let's see we have Yemen is going to send more people to
Yemen, we have Libya, of course, we've got to have more security
in Libya. Central? Well, as I noted, embassy personnel, US
forces port in their security were relocated outside Libya to
support the safe departure of the embassy staff. So it's for
extraction purposes. And also, we need to have that'll be
overland through Tunisia. So we have US military aircraft and
additional military personnel. And those forces will eventually
leave, but I don't see that happening very soon. It feels
like it's not everything. There's no mention of Japan or I
think we still have the base in Germany.
Oh, yeah. No, we got it. We have a lot of people in jobs. So
why did is I guess that doesn't have to be in the report. This
is only based upon the authorized use of military
force. This is not the historical stuff that we had
laying around.
Right that this has to be I guess this report only referred
to sense that authorization for military force went through this
is the result. Yeah. As Germany is not the result of this. It's
been there, right.
Yeah, some say the war would never officially ended. That's
the thing that's been going around for a while that there
was no war. At the Second World War. There was no actual
document that said, Okay, it's all over.
Yeah, they there was.
I'm just telling them what's going around. If you search
around, you'll see that there's some theory about this.
If you search around, you'll see that the aliens won the war
on the only the reptilians
obviously, the Queen she's actually the ruler of the world.
Yeah.
Oh, man, was it today is an interesting date. And we knew
well, actually, yesterday was an interesting date. 12 1314 This
is not only does this happen once in a century, that is, of
course by the American date, depiction system. If you are in
if you're in other parts of the world, it would be 13 1214
doesn't quite work out. But there's also
the day there's no 1314 15 coming up because you don't have
right and it's just no good.
It also had all sorts compile of only the numbers 123 And four,
which apparently also has some other, which it's a special
date. And we decided to make to make use of this and kind of
worked. Well. We
got four takers.
Well then let me thank you for your courage and say in the
morning to you John C. Dvorak.
Well, in the morning do Adam curry in the morning all ships
at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and
all the days and nights out there. I wonder if any subs in
the water are listening anymore?
Well, not when they're in the water unless they've got the
parents do Periscope, download and download and submerge in the
morning to all of our human resources there and chat room
listening on the stream no agenda stream.com is where you
want to be thank you to our artists. We had the fake sell
lizard fake Sal lizard who came in with the artwork for 677
and comic strip blogger gets credit for the newsletter he was
on that maybe took down earlier that Oh course yeah and this I
have decided to start thanking them because I've been using
that's a good idea to art that's a good idea which one did he put
in the news that you have of his in the newsletters that go
generic one Oh, cool. Abby had this other one on 677 was oh
yeah Hayden as with the water bugs Bugs Bunny? Yeah, yeah, we
were we tortured some which of course I think I get to play the
I get to play the clip then just so we have that. That's how we
and that's the story. What was the deal with this special
121314
Before I explained that, I wanted to say something about
Hayden. Okay. I don't know I I remember he was with Rodriguez
about a year ago. He clipped us he was at some meeting and the
two of them were defending all this with their with the old
works you know, it's a great we got good intelligence got Bin
Laden, all the rest. And I saw him and watched him talk and I
saw him and a couple other things about a year ago. Then I
saw him like right yesterday kind of thing. He was on some
show. And he was there. He doesn't look he looks unhealthy.
He's his face has gotten really fast.
Got all these ticks and all these things. He must be a
wreck. He must really be worried. Why do you think he
they sent him out? Why is he the the punching bag for all this?
Why is he the defender?
I think he was at the peak of it. I think it when they did the
feeding the Bahamas up the butt stuff that was all his doing? I
mean, 10 it seemed Let me stop you right there.
That was a medical procedure. John
10 It was 10 it was a baby. I got a You're not a doctor a
doctor, I
got a medical procedure for you.
I've got an injection. You're gonna like it. J tip Tennant set
it up. And he was just a liar. And then I think I think it was
the short term or that came in after that. And then Hayden, I
think he was the third of the group. Right? And I think it was
his responsibility to clean up well, man
of course the crazy thing is he was also NSA. He was NSA and
CIA. So it's possible he has like a career spy that that you
have the NSA saying You better not say this. So you better say
that in the CIA going? You better not say that. And he's
maybe that's he's just torn, being ripped to shreds by two
competing camps.
If that's a possibility. I don't know what it is. Whatever the
case is. He doesn't look like he's feels it looks like
something's up with him.
Maybe time for these worry. They got a gun pointed at his head. I
don't know. Maybe you had tickets for a nice European
holiday thing. Good idea. I would. I wouldn't
think twice about those European holiday. Imagine
not being being worried about traveling outside the US for
fear of being arrested and by the International Criminal
Court.
Can you imagine being George Bush and not giving a damn? Oh,
yeah. Easy. As easy? I don't know. That's good. I don't like
traveling anywhere. What's wrong with you? Just like my mother. I
like that. Right. You're going overseas. There's good things to
see here.
Go to the Alamo. I've been to the Alabama I've been to the
Alamo. Like yeah, corpus is lovely this time of year.
The Alamo is actually worth checking out very well and they
have a what's interesting about the Alamo to me is it's so
small. You got Phil
Collins has an entire collection of Alamo memorabilia on display
at the Alamo. What Oh, and
now at the end. Yeah, he
donated all these. I don't know if it's on loan or permanent
loan. He has an entire Alamo collection. Phil Collins, Phil
Collins. Yeah. I know. Stroud. Yeah. All right. And more
useless trivia right here on your no agenda show with traffic
and weather on the eights
talking about is that the the we have four people that came up
with the 121314 donation and so they will be at they will be
named. They'd be the first one that came in as far as I can
tell. And that's the one we're going to put right away and then
the other ones will follow was Sir David Foley be Sir David
Foley presents name of the name of the show. And that so we have
four people that will get that that special credit
but wouldn't it be his son just looking at the at the donation?
I think he made his son London.
Night honorary gave a donation in let me look at it. Yeah.
Well, let's thank everybody first, then we'll decide
not just this go for the next X amount of episodes. We do this
for episodes. Oh, great. Love it.
Sir Don Tommaso de Toronto came in from kettleby Ontario Canada
141213 a kind of a back password version what we're trying to do
here here's a John's date challenge but in proper antsy
format Yeah, but you're gonna do
and we're this he becomes he becomes a Duke
yeah he's a Duke and I'm way past dukedom maybe I should get
a ring he doesn't have a ring karma FoId Sir Don no agenda
nation slash rings
I am I'm not sure what's going on with that.
Well he did probably didn't go in and fill out the form
and I think he did but I'm not I'm not I don't know I really
really don't know
whatever the case but it's also possible that the Canadian
postal service keeps stealing them
this guy's how he what he needs karma. That's what he wants.
For the donors.
Karma very nice.
Meanwhile, Sir Thomas Nussbaum Hey, who's up there and rankings
121314 Virginia Beach Virginia finally some donors in Virginia.
Happy holidays to the whole no agenda entourage hugs and kisses
to Adam and Mickey John and Mimi from barren Nussbaum, St. Nicole
and Dame said sequential numbers do not come along often if ever
at all. Right let me get let me read that right. sequential
numbers do not come along often. If ever at all. Those thinking
is 13 1214 which would be the European thing fuck off. You're
wrong. But he said that was a quote. Yeah,
exactly. I want to Well hugs and kisses Blitz to hand the camera
back to him and St. Nicole. That would be appropriate. You've got
karma right now who was okay You already told me next we have
a reshoot my Meister one two and three and four which is I'd like
my name and location with hell okay. He's he should be known as
Sir reach Meister of divided by zero. I've been a listener since
June. I've made no agenda major part of my life and to keep
listening without making any contribution. I feel very bad
about it. I'll admit, when I started listening, your show is
completely lost. The two of you kept talking about people I've
never heard of clippity clop.
Don't worry, you'll know about her soon enough. It's it's all
coming back again is
Maria Harvey this Jen Psaki that a guy named haiku? not Japanese.
And what's it? What's a Nudelman this of course being the result
of the mainstream media keeping me ignorant. Exactly. Bingo. I
want to thank the two of you for providing news analysis that's
not found in the mainstream media you both work very hard in
providing us this information which is why I feel bad if I
continued listening without making a contribution. I think
that that's to say getting my news from Adam curry is a bit
surreal
kid I used to watch Adam on MTV and he was my favorite VJ is my
favorite VJ media personalities come and go but having Adam in
my life by being a no agenda listener is as if I'm bringing
back a part of my childhood I thought it was gone. I don't
know how to explain it but it's pretty cool. I could use some
job arm I haven't had a stable career since September 2008 I'd
like to get some job security starting in the New Year by the
way I am Indian Oh, am I the first Indian to be knighted?
I don't think it counts if you're living in California you
have to be in or something in India India.
No you're you're less Indian then
you're not you just
talking about
no
join about the 700 million in a democracy overwhelmed by guests
maybe a billion by now. Half of which probably speak good
English or good enough English to listen to the show and
probably a third of them do listen to show they never donate
they never contribute except one guy ever.
You don't think he means Native American anything it really
means Indian Indian Indian as from India
reach Meister I don't know if what Indian he means Native
American usually don't call themselves India housing
so we'll accept Pocahontas who a pug honest there's another name
people go who is Pocahontas? What are they talking about? I
will be knighting you sir Reshma. I served divided by zero
I later during the ceremony and very much looking forward to
this is what you want
jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
In recognition of certain Good luck Yeah.
Our grand duke
All right, ITM gentlemen enclosed please find an instant
night special donation I would like to apply this is Grand Duke
Sir David Foley. I would like to apply this for my son Lund is
knighthood to ensure that the generation carry on propagating
the formula please have some root beer and pepperoni pizza at
the round table
All right All righty then if we must got that
well this is cool. But I think he needs karma we think we
should definitely do that doesn't
mean karma well he's a kid all all kids today need karma?
Yeah, but for reasons yeah special reasons if you know what
I mean I hear six that are much nicer now we had that was our
group and we have set that was our group of super producers.
And I from what I can tell I don't know you had the I never
thought of asking Foley maybe I can send him a note and see what
he what's the what's the question? The question is is it
Sir David Foley presents this show
Oh, no, no, it's certainly no I don't think so. It's sir it's
sir London Foley presents this show
Okay, don't do that if he wants to we can change it will always
changes.
Well, no. It's a pain in the ass but it's not impossible. Well, I
know but for fully we get to the pain what you want
to testicle Here you go fully.
Okay, let's see if Bigland actually sent something in
Biglan do I need to check? Yes. Just in case. Okay. Let me see.
Donation note for show 678 There you go. I got it. Two.
Gentlemen, thank you for your courage. John, please
editorialize my note for the show as you see fit. Okay, then
I can read it as well. It's not that long. But Henry Biglan from
Kew Gardens, New York $678.90. Note for the show. Please accept
my 678 So he's a 678 club member donation the best guest in the
universe for 678 90 as a contribution my previous
donation of 12345. This is my share of the NYC police civil
rights violation settlement tax. That I think it'd be better
spent. Yeah. Holding on I end up with a value of her value model
during the holiday season this donation should bring me to vite
count. Oh,
all right. Let me just make sure I have that reflected in the
accounting link below. I would claim Queens New York from my
expanded lands with all its rights and privileges. Thank you
for your excellent deconstructions of all the news
with a sense of humor that keeps me sane.
He wanted Why do you want queens, Queens, Queens and all
it's what
with I would claim Queens, New York for my expanded lands with
all its rights and privileges.
I just like to say him that I so give you Queens, New York with
all its rights, lands and privileges. Nice.
All right. Django can have a JCD dealer's choice followed by and
her head is gone, which is what I would have picked karma. So
let me think what would be a good one that we haven't done
for a while. How about that? You know what we haven't heard for a
long time is the little is the theme. The musical theme
clippity clop clippity clop clippity clop
Yeah. Oh, did you hear that?
No, what I did uh, yeah, no, oh, I didn't hear I really am sorry
because I should be.
I clippety clop and then Ender head has gone in that order with
the karma to karma chaser messages clear clip. And her
head was gone. You've got karma. It worked out that worked nicely
together.
I like that. All right onward. As I click around, so it's a sir
otaku in Louisville, Lewisville, Texas so 678 90 Holy cow, a
second member of the 678 Club
and a special 6789 sequential number Bonanza
Yeah 67890 Who knew I never even thought of this we should have
put that into suggested it to be able to guys picked it out of
the smart two nights obviously decided to look at this. Oh, my
throat tacos drunk. Perfect as I've drunk otherwise I wouldn't
donate so much. But you guys deserve every penny. You're
always on the money about the media and how it's screwing us
over ended with his misdirection. I think you
deserve more. But I'm a mere slave and can only give up so
much you are have to give blood to get you some more pennies. I
would ask you to give me a birthday shout out on December
31, but you will forget so far down the road so give me a
birthday love now put them on the list okay
birthday love now and I will hold on to it till I get another
year older. Also don't forget coming up at the end of January
we will be in the first annual no agenda show QSR Oh party.
Yeah, well we'll not be able to get both of you and Adam on the
air so everyone can get their points for the elusive creator
credits. If not, there will be a bunch of US producers that will
be on the airwaves to help boost the points. Please keep up the
good work and the best podcast in the universe and since a mac
and cheese comment because I need to buy more grain to brew a
couple more beers here and make to the Dallas area. The beer and
barbecue is on me sir otaku k F five SVR,
the QSR party is going to be fun. You know how it works,
right?
Yeah,
so there will be points for the will the bonus points will be if
someone can do a QSR with Uri. Oh, alright. So you you get
points for making contact with other people participating in
the contest? And then you get extra points for like, like if
it's a sir if it's you know, if it's a night or if it's a dame
the extra points extra points for different modes like Morse
code, CW would be extra points for Wow, that's how geeky is
that?
You're pretty geeky.
It's worse than Dungeons and Dragons.
Your slaves can get
cheated macaroni and cheese shattered Ghana melted together
mac and cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese.
You've got karma Man oh man. makes I think it makes me sound
pretty damn pathetic no man I'm all into that
No, no no no,
I mean how many chicks are going through qs Oh party now 010 No
Hi especially not the one here
I have wrongly this a women love this knows it gets plenty of
exercise for their eyeballs by spinning around spinning around
it actually improves your visions very slightly so you're
doing the female gender a favor cue
so parties give you facial exercise
Yes Oh nice. All right, I do not have on cannot find a
Christopher Dolan note
Ah, let me check from Berlin. Oh they Berlin Connecticut. Let me
see if I've got a
Christopher Dolan he came in Christopher Nolan came it with
34567 Berlin, Connecticut. And he's a sir if I'm not mistaken.
And he's doesn't like maybe he doesn't like he doesn't care. I
don't have I don't have anything. Okay, Mark lay anyway.
34567 from Christopher Sir Christopher Mark lay along Eaton
Derbyshire UK 345 another computer commuter contribution
from Derbyshire, UK cannot believe some of the reports and
legislation you cover that our news media doesn't seem to feel
should be covered. Can I have a trains good jobs karma also a
bit of info I heard earlier in 2004, relating to the price of
gas increasing United States of exports of LPG tankers begins
due to the world market price of gas being higher than the local
market. Just another bit of speculation in the energy market
merry go round. Okay.
I'm not quite sure what that meant. He was
thinking, Well, we do a review. Remember this there was a big
kind of a push that oh, we're gonna start sending because
liquid natural is expensive. The Russians are gonna come off and
we need to send our gas from United States. Europe and that's
gonna jack up our prices. And it turns out just the opposite
happened.
The bull trains, planes, bad
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
Before we move on, I got a note here. Most people outside the
United States and probably most people in the United States do
not exactly know what the Alamo is. And you do a two line
description what they remember the Alamo you're supposed to
remember the Alamo. Gosh, darn it. Can you help it and I was
out here.
It was a fort in Texas on the border at the time with Mexico.
It was in Mexican territory I believe. Then the Texans were
taken over the the Republic of Texas was taken over the place
with a bunch of punks running out the Mexicans and the Mexican
military was screwed up. And there was a big fight over them.
Alamo what was noteworthy about that all these very famous
people that later became Disney characters. That's the most
important thing. Like Daniel Boone was in the Alamo and the
Mexicans surrounded the place they had him out numbered and
they killed everybody. All of them everybody in the Alamo was
killed
by Mexicans.
No the Americans wrong. Oh, okay good. The Mexicans one, you made
it and then we came back we came did it come back and rousted the
Mexicans eventually and been made Texas what it is kinda, and
Sam Austin and these famous people and, and Yosemite Sam and
other characters 70 Sam Austin, and then you end up with the
with the phrase because of the Alamo. Remember, the Alamo were
all these people were butchered by these horrible Mexicans. And
now of course, the state is mostly Mexicans anyway, so it
didn't work out. But whatever the case that's
Thank you. That's all that's good. And we just need and I
think because of the the Disney movies I think that's really why
people still remember it's
the movies is the reason this whole thing anyone makes Yeah,
yeah.
And in fact, that's why the phrase exists. Remember the
Alamo Disney? Yeah, probably. It's sublimit. Patrick,
from some place in Washington. 333 33. We haven't seen that for
a while. Hey, John and Adam. This donation should put me over
into knighthood category. I'd like this opportunity to propose
a new order of pseudo anonymous knights. And he wants to call
the order of pug winner. This probably is the guy who sends in
the mark Bognor donations could be somebody does. But you know
that what they do is they send in like a like a post office
mail order thing, usually for 6969. And then the quarter the
analyst says Mark Pardner Parts Unknown. Right, right. It's
it's it's funny. Every bit helps. Now how do we deal with
this? This pseudo pseudo anonymous knights? The order of
pseudo anonymous knights? I think well, you could call it
the story. I think that he suggested the order of the
Bognor. So he's a Sir Patrick, order the Bognor
order of the Pugna got it. I got it's on the list too. We're good
sir. Norman McDonough. Oh, in Woodstock, Ontario came up with
$300 This should be taken in my second I want to thank all these
people, by the way for coming up on the show, which because we
were very short last time, but really this should take me to my
second knighthood. Is that a Baronet? Yes. I've fell away
from contributing and even listening. This is a problem
that we have. But I tried to make up this year and I'm back
as an avid listener, I lost my way. Thanks to the media. I do
love your show man. I have anything from Reverend Al and a
stuttering Obama Porky Pig that's how we roll
Okay, and he wants a an owl
an owl I'm stuttering and how we roll
Okay, I'm sorry I was there was something that just came in on
the email from one of our knights so I'm trying to do
double duty no real contract that's how we that's how we
and that's the story. You've got karma
Oh, this is interesting. Please credit donation is Sir Hank.
That nothing enough, forget it. It's all good. I got it, sir.
Hank, I'm good to go. I'm just looking. I'm doing the news wire
I'm doing the reception. You're plugged in. Again. I'm the
producer of the show. I produced technical director. I don't know
how you separate UNIST on the
river much from Ann Arbor, Michigan. 300 hours I listen to
your show and traveling. I'm about to go Blady for a week. So
here's somebody that cover my coming travels thanks for the
show is going to Blighty to Blighty as the UK. It Blighty is
in the UK but
that is the UK it's slang for the UK Blighty.
I'm going to Blady and that means he's going to the UK so
does.
You didn't know Michigan from Ann Arbor Where were you? How
would he know this phrase?
Maybe he's from Blighty mage mage would seem a bit odd.
Yes. Yeah. Mr. Mage Mr. Mage, whatever
mage in attendance
stands Solsbury. To 272 75 Gainesville Florida. Special
numbers day for me in the best podcast in universe on this day
on this last sequential date of this century 12 1314 Which is
true. I hereby declare my having freely reached no agenda
knighthood on show 678 It's taken me five years but I
finally made it.
I love the store. I
appreciate all the dedication of hardware from John and Adam
gives him the no agenda show and making it a quality product. I'm
proud to be one of the no agenda producers of show 678 For my
knighting you can name me sir Stan of Kingswood. To all the no
agenda listeners, please have a Merry Christmas and keep on
shopping. Oh, I'm sorry. Supporting the show I've been
supporting this show since early stand Solsbury, Gainesville,
Florida. Richard Moffat and I could not find a note from I
don't think we went to MIT to fight Oh no, no just came in the
mail. Raise your right did I think Richard Moffat never says
notes? It says checks. Okay. Richard Moffett 253 16
Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Sir Alan Bose in Langley. British
Columbia. Langley British Columbia $250 morning gentlemen
here's one more as you haven't gotten any donations from
Langley Virginia. I don't think we have now there's one more
installment towards my upgrade to Baron am now only a few
dollars away. Who do you have down there as Baron? Only a few
dollars away? I would be it would sound good to be the Baron
of British Columbia. Okay. Bear into British Columbia don't
think we have okay this is let me just write down Richard
Moffat No, I'm sorry. Those are Alan Bose and that's interesting
why he's not on the list. Now who knows? That's okay. Let me
just write it down. What does he become? The Baron
of British Columbia Of course. I believe that covering an area of
365,000 square miles is going to where I my old Lincoln gas just
I deplore some of some more BC years to get help out and share
the responsibility the whole province is up for grabs. I just
want part of the Lower Mainland I don't need the province.
Oh the challenge the glove has been thrown down. Yeah,
have a great Christmas and keep up the excellent deconstruction
and entertainment Thank you sir. I'm going to Chris spears in
Austin Texas robbed the road from you 234561 of my favorites
I John and Adam as always I hope this small bit of value for
value finds you well I was compelled to donate with my
birthday falling on 12 1314 As the night I assume it might
divine right to call other listeners out You bet. I would
like to single out Benjamin F fields. Donating at a level
appropriate for a man of means like to thank Patrick F Hamilton
for becoming a producer Nice. All right. Ah, Dame Astrid
23456. And she did send a an email which I don't have a
master
of well, she's by Count Vikas
Mastracchio, but still I think he's still called dame.
I have the note if you are yes, a the note. Shall we play the
note? You even replied to the note with a smiley face. play
the note Dear John Deere item being an addicted no agenda
listener and having done my homework by reading Sinclair
Lewis's book eight can't happen here. I am more than saddened to
report that despite unusually wide protests, albeit not as
vociferous as the Umbrella Revolution, the new state secret
law has been enforced in Japan last week. We are now one step
closer to a true Shut up slaved him, what are we to do? I can't
hit people in the mouth around me, my daughter and her peers
and I can't hit the people around me my daughter and her
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I realized I think we, we have realized this before. But now
it's really getting on my nerves. If we live in this, this
internet age, this computing age, I mean, your commercials
are filled with Cisco will be bringing you the internet of
everything your tennis shoes will when they're worn out,
they'll report back to home base and Cisco is gonna help you get
new tennis shoes that are designed for the way you use
them. And all of this stuff. We need to have actual reporting on
the issues at hand. And as you know, one of one of my biggest
pet peeve in all reporting, particularly when it comes to
technology, and I'll say technology reporting not tech,
because tech equals pains Tech Tech equals phones. A lifestyle
tech reporting today is really lifestyle reporting. The Of
course my biggest pet peeve is the use of the word glitch. It
is not a technical term, it does not. It is not appropriate in
today's world for news organizations, such as
Associated Press, such as the guardian, anyone to use the word
glitch as an explanation for What went wrong? It's just not
it's not
like, there wasn't us it too extreme.
There was a glitch in London, the UK, I should say, on Friday,
but of course Friday is very busy time. Yeah,
yeah, this I wonder I would Yeah, I was hoping you were
going to give us a discussion of this. Yeah. The glitch and the
glitch. What happened is it really fouled up the Friday
travel. But the way you may have heard this, this report or read
about a John, I think the way it came across is, oh, air traffic
control went down, you know, planes were gonna crash into
each other, it was just horrible. And that is can
nothing could be further from the truth. And it's even more
cool when this isn't when these glitches are about aviation,
because of course, I know, some of that is I'm a licensed
aviator. This is regarding the N A T S, this is the and I use the
na t s in general it is for file of filing flight plans and
manages flight plans. For UK aviation it does connect into of
course, your control, but it's not the it's not the guys, the
controllers talking to planes. It's not the radar system. In
fact, if you've ever been in Have you ever been in a tower,
John, have you ever? Yes, I have. And you know, the you've
probably heard of the term slots.
Yeah, I know that term slots. Okay. But yourself, you're
playing your booger in a slot, you're gonna land at a certain
point, or take off
it take off or land. When if you've ever been in, in a tower,
and I believe pretty much every tower still has this. They
should, it may even be regulation, they have a board
with a whole bunch of rectangular wooden sticks. And,
and within there's a gaffer odbl, a little masking tape on
them, and they'll write down flight numbers, and they can
slide these the sticks up and down into a sequence. So you
know who's next for landing who's who's who was supposed to
be coming next.
And so World War Two tower you're at is it's I think
all towers still basically have this. In fact, they didn't see
him, they resorted back to this, I'm pretty sure when this glitch
took place. And what happened is the they couldn't rebuild the
system went down. And this is big mainframe. This is IBM s
390. And you know, the this kind of hardware, I would say you
would know more about that than I do. That hardware is less, it
really blows up. It just grinds forever. It says mainframe
stuff. And of course, lots of lots of things, the whole
aviation industry probably runs still mostly on that. Which is
why when you get a ticket, if you're you put your name and you
do a reservation, your ticket comes back with all caps. You
notice this is because you're going into a mainframe. The
mainframe doesn't no upper or lower case for a lot of these
procedures. So something went wrong with it had to be the
software since these hardware, things don't go down. And what
really happened is the flight plans became unavailable, to
the, to the system to the crew system. So to to the air, air
traffic controllers, at a certain point, they have to
resort back to the old way of doing things, they can still see
everybody, no one's going to go crashing down. But that does
mean they have to slow stuff down and delay things after
think it's an eight or 10 minute delay. And really, there's
something that went wrong. And I'm going to assert that the
technology being put in place. And there's a lot we're looking
at here in the United States, certainly the next gen where it
really wouldn't be flying without pilots or whatever, that
we are being duped into spending more money on systems that
probably aren't going to work very well. And they I found, I
found two things, I found what I believe to be the real problem.
And remember, you're talking about a mainframe, which takes
very, very specific instructions and it can be sent into a spin
you can screw it up, you can confuse the system. If the data
you enter somehow. Not any of this not the code is not written
to reject incorrect entry. And what I got from a pretty obscure
message board with who I believe is an insider at the NAT system.
There was a not one but two flight plans were entered and
probably through the Internet Gateway, which is now kind of
jerry rigged onto this thing were entered incorrectly at the
same time. And the system just shut down but it had already
spun off its data dump to the backup system. So we'd had the
exact same problem and they had to go resort to the manual slot
system and the papers. Were I think that there's still
probably printouts of a lot of these flight plans of here's the
CEO The company that runs this Richard Deacon. And this is a
public private partnership. So this is why I don't like it. You
know, so there's profit making, but it's, you know, it's an it's
a non compete kind of contract is a very typical system for
government with private enterprise. And I don't think
it's very good. But he really took it to a level that was just
so funny when you and of course, he has no idea what's going on.
And he's not going to explain to us to take it beyond the glitch.
And I think this is a model for CEOs in the future, as things do
come crashing down. This is how you're going to explain it away.
So the problem was, as your report described, when we had
additional terminals brought into use, and we had a software
problem that we hadn't seen before, which resulted in the
computer that looks after the flight plans, effectively going
offline. Okay, but on this particular problem, have you
actually identified what the software issue was? Is it fixed?
Yes, we have about 50 different systems at Sonic, our main
operation center, and over 4 million lines of code. So we
found the this
is supposed to impress you, there were 4 million lines of
code, please, there's a lot going on, right some lines of
code
line of code that caused the problem that's effectively been
rectified. And I can assure your viewers that this particular
problem is not going to reoccur. So how long has that line of
code been sitting there, I'm in like a sort of ticking time.
The line of code was just sitting there just like a
ticking time bomb waiting to be activated.
Well, as some of the systems that you say, are fairly
elderly, they didn't really go back to the 1960s. The system
that we had a problem with last night has code that was written
in the early 90s. Having said that, we are investing a huge
amount of new investing in huge amounts of new technology.
Here it comes Be very afraid when you hear what's happening
now.
So we typically invest around 114 million pounds per annum
send them over the next five years, we're spending another
575 million pounds to bring our systems up to date with the
latest single European skies program, which has just been
launched last week and wait for it. And the UK has very much a
leading role in that. So for the next five years, we're going to
be moving more towards internet based systems, which are very
important, much more resilient than systems
like that, do not move your to an internet based system, it
will not be more resilient.
Holy moly. Now, of course, I still don't really have an act
immediately.
I still don't have any real information. But I think that
someone needs to step up. And there needs to be a way for
reporters to go okay, so I'll buy your one line of code and
millions of
it. That's nonsense. Who cares? Yeah, there's a line of code
that took the data and wrong or something. What difference does
it make? That's always going to happen that's never going to end
it's just the way it is. So what toys that's not even newsworthy,
but the idea that they're gonna put him in that base system. I
mean, why don't you just shoot yourself?
I love how he says it. We're moving towards an internet based
system for resilience. Oh, yeah.
Reminds me of many a story.
Well, you want to hit me with it
took too long to get to the point out, you should just put
that right up front and we could have moaned and groaned. That
was I didn't realize it was so Bunnell. Yeah,
one line of code.
Well, yeah, it was, I thought it may be something more
interesting than that. That's boring. But that internet thing
is, that's pretty outrageous. I mean, what are they thinking?
You know, it's going to be hacked. In fact, it's going to
be such a great target.
Again, this is what this is why it's a private public
partnership. On and yeah, easy money just raising, you
know, on and on, and on and on with all these guys. We heard a
million hours of testimony, oh, cyber, this cyber that and we
have all these guys that don't really know anything about
cyber. I
think they also passed the cyber bill. Yeah, I resisted.
Hillary would say what difference does it make? Well,
this is the stop these hackers. This is
this is the homeland, the cybersecurity critical
infrastructure protection
bill. Emmys it doesn't protect anything correct one, this is
the I think this is one that's actually just a bonanza for guys
like, Richard, what's his name and all these other so called
experts that are going to Richard Clark Yeah. And all
these ex ex tech experts that were in Congress, they don't
know anything about how you could turn on a computer and
they're going to be running certain consulting operations.
If you're interested. I can make a fortune if you're interested.
Yes. If you're interested in give you a quick rundown this
was the So, this is the National Cybersecurity and Critical
Infrastructure Protection Act of 2014. And this is what we've
been looking at for a while now, this is the cyber sharing the
sharing of information, if you recall, and this all falls under
subtitle C, Cybersecurity Information Sharing. So, the
government will be sharing with private industry in the
following sectors, chemical commercial facilities, which is
not defined, I guess commercial facilities could be anything.
Communications, critical manufacturing dams, defense,
industrial base emergency services, energy, which is
pretty much everything else. Financial services, so the
government now we'll be sharing information with your bank more
than they do already. Food and Agriculture, government
facilities, health care and public health information
technology, nuclear reactors, materials and waste
transportation systems, which the bus water and wastewater
systems and such other sectors as the secretary determines
appropriate. So just pretty much everything. And each sector
specific agency so recognize at least one, this is what we got
to pay attention to Information Sharing and Analysis Center. So
this is what we're going to be building information and
analysis centers, which will be these guest centers of
excellence.
You know, we've got this road out here, highway
goes through Oh, no, it's not, not the potholes. There's
potholes
all over the place. And Oakland is a joke. If you drive through
Oakland on the the, I guess is the ad that goes down there.
Through Oakland. It's you might as well get have your ball
joints replaced every time we take a trip down here. Why
aren't they fixing these highways? And when I was in Los
Angeles the last time I didn't realize that Los Angeles is
worse than some of the ritziest parts.
Oh, man. Oh, just a rag. It's horrible. I know horrible,
crappy roads. But all we're gonna build a bunch of bullcrap
for no good reason. This is like, up in Port Angeles.
There's a big giant homeland security headquarters because of
all the Mexicans coming down from Canada. And they got these
guys and they got overstaffed building costs a lot of money. I
don't, I'm just not saying that they're doing the spending their
money wisely.
Section 205 is the only piece I wanted to pull out and just
discuss with you I think the language is is interesting. So
in all this information sharing between the sector's which is
pretty much everything. And the government. Section 205 Is the
prohibition on collection activities to track individuals
personally identified and identifiable information. So
this is what there would not be allowed to occur. Nothing in
this Act shall permit the Department of Homeland Security
to engage in the monitoring, surveillance, exfiltration or
other collection activities for the purpose of tracking an
individual's personally identifiable information. And I
think you can look at the purpose, the word purpose and
maybe just tracking. So you can still look at something
someone's individual's purse, individual person identifiable
information, but you can't track it. Why not? Because that's the
point
of this. They're tracking us in every other way. And all these
other laws that we read. Oh, wow. You're asked laws? No.
What's the point of this?
I think, I think what it actually does is gives them so
you have a criminal,
a known criminal roaming around and you can't track him. Is that
what this law says?
No. No. You cannot collect specifically to track
individuals personally identify why nosh. That's what it says.
It doesn't say why not? It says Oh, no to John C. Dvorak. Here's
why not. I don't know this for years for your privacy, I guess.
I think it will seem to care about in any other dimension of
the law. I
think I think it does exactly the opposite. I think it says
you can collect and look at anything you just can't use it
for tracking. That's what I think it says I think it's the
reverse whammy.
Well, that would Yeah, that would make more sense.
That's the way I read it. So you can collect and you can
exfiltrate and you can monitor but you can't do that to track
an individual's personally identifiable information that's
not even a person you can track a person just not their
personally identifiable information. I don't like the
way it's written. I think it's nefarious
All right. I don't know that there's much to discuss it just
sounds like another bogus law they're writing too many laws
People always complain I've always said these are passing
this is being passed there's no there's they were they kids
should do nothing Congress if you ever say is to do nothing,
Congress is actually a do nothing Congress. Nothing could
be better.
Well, that's interesting. You better than a do
nothing Congress. Oh, they're log jammed. That's fine.
Is that interesting you bring that up I want to talk about
this. There is a report that came out called the wild people
are calling it the the Guillen's flatline. And this is a report
of done by to let me see if I have it here. This is two
professors Martin Gilens and Benjamin page. And they've been
written up in several publications, New Yorker, you
know, quasi serious, serious publications. And what they've
discovered with this, with this research I've done over 10
years, is that if you look at the financial elites, which I
think first of all, it's everybody in Congress, but you
know, the financial elites, everyone who's it's not you and
I, let's put it that way. And then everybody else, they they
charted the graph, when the financial elites really want
something, you know, 90 to 100% of what they wanted gets done.
And then the flatline graph is everybody else, whether nobody
wants certain legislation passed, or everybody wants
certain legislation passed, the amount is still 30% of what
those people wanted. So really, what this shows is, whatever
now what are you looking at?
This is the Martin Geils. That Guillen's gi l e n s. Chart.
I have to look at this. Yes,
g i L. E. N S. Well, they both appeared on the John Stewart
show a couple months back. And this is kind of what led me into
looking at these guys, here's here's a quick clip of what they
talked about.
How do you quantify something like that? What what metrics do
you use, we looked at a couple of 1000 potential policy changes
in the United States over 25 years. And we measured what
ordinary citizens wanted, whether they favored or oppose
them, where elites economic elites wanted and were
interested groups fell. By having measures of all those
things, we could put them into a statistical model that would
assess the influence of each of those sets of actors. Is the
variable enough from what the non elite public wants to what
the elite want? Did you find a large spread between their aims?
Yes, yeah. There,
there are some very important issues, including Social
Security deficits, economic regulation, taxes, what can we
do about the differential that what can we do about it? What
sounds
important? Krugman wrote a column and he said, you know,
this study is okay. But it's going to discourage people. And
that's bad. And I think there's something to that, that this
this is a solvable problem. I think it takes a very big social
movement. I think it takes bipartisan leadership. And it
actually takes some wealthy people on the same side to make
it happen. Right. Nothing seems to happen in American politics
of any importance,
right. I was gonna say, do you know of a country where that
could happen? Is there anything?
Well, the United States at the beginning of the 20th century,
the progressive period, and I think it's really worth looking
back to that and some lessons.
All right. So you understand what the general premises of
this Yes, and
I do want to mention something just kind of in passing. That
was a clip from the John Stuart show, and you played it. Yeah.
So
yeah, I did. I did. It wasn't a particularly funny one. I was
just surprised that these guys were on the Jon Stewart show and
I agreed it was scripted, because he hasn't. Steward was
way out of his depth. And he tried to do some funny job. I
cut all the stupid jocuri out. Now, what's interesting about
this is there's a guy from MIT, I think, James D'Angelo, and he
has a theory that is like an hour and a half long YouTube
video, which I don't think is, you know, I couldn't really pull
any clips from it. But he looked at this so called, they call it
the Guillen's flatline. So again, what what this research
says is that when the people want something 100 They really
want it all the way only 30% of what they want gets done if they
don't want something done only 30 still 30%. So what the people
want in our Congress to do doesn't matter. What does matter
is the financial elites. And what he came across is that
change, this really started to change dramatically in 1970.
This, this is when the flatline of the Guillen's charge started
to take place. And this guy, I really thought that was
interesting. He brings it back to the legislative
Reorganization Act of 1970. This is interesting. And the and the
thank god, I've been striking out with you all day. I hope I'm
really really worried. I
hope you liked it, but it's interesting to me.
Okay. So the legislative Reorganization Act of 1970 was
an act to call To improve the operation of the legislative
branch of the federal government, and for other
purposes, of course, and it did the following.
This should be Nixon, by the way for anyone keeping score is that
1970? was Nixon right? Well, a lot of things happened in the
70s, including the petro dollar and all that stuff.
Well, yeah, that's because it was the beginning of a bit of a
40 year depression.
So the provisions of this bill, required that reports on a
measure be made available three days before floor vote, and here
I think is the one that's important, established
procedures or recorded votes in the House Committee of the Whole
and led to the installment of electronic voting machines. And
the Committee of the Whole, which I didn't know much about,
I have here on all of this is all from, from the book of
knowledge, so I'm going to presume it's kind of okay.
United States House of Representatives, the Committee
of the Whole short for Committee of the Whole House, on the State
of the Union, is a parliamentary device in which the House of
Representatives is considered one large congressional
committee. The presiding officers chosen by the Speaker
of the House is normally a member of the majority party who
does not hold the chair of long standing committee. So it's,
it's about a super committee. So what changed is the votes of
this House Committee of the Whole became recorded thanks for
this act. And it led to the installation of electronic
voting machines in Congress are really where a lot of these
votes were. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed say
nay, the eyes have it. But it really you didn't have a hey,
this guy voted for this, this guy voted for that. And there's
a couple other similar pieces of of changes that were established
in this legislative Reorganization Act. And what
happened after this is a whole bunch of things started to come
into play mainly lobbying groups, and groups like ALEC,
and the Heritage Foundation, and the huge lobbying group Cassidy
and Associates. And of course, I don't really remember too much
about it. But there was the big Abram off scandal. He was a
lobbyist for Indian Senator restaurant that
was wrong after
Yes, yeah, it was no. But just to show you how the lobbying
groups came in, and what, what this what this guy asserts, this
MIT guy, he says, voting in the United States. When you and I go
to vote, and we go to vote, or whatever elections it is, we go
into the voting booth, we draw a curtain around us, and nobody
knows what I voted. And I don't get a receipt that says that I
voted for anything. Because if you did that, then it would be
easy for me to sell my vote because I could say, oh, I voted
for this because it's public record. Or here's a receipt,
here's who I voted for. And it would be too easy to commit
fraud. And we are taught from me
like with Internet voting.
Voting could be a very, very bad idea. And if you think about it,
we're taught from a very young age, even in school, we have you
put your boats in a cardboard box, and then the ballots are
counted. It's always done in secret, except in Congress,
which is exactly why the system is inherently built to be
rigged, because you can just sit there Your vote is public, you
can swap votes with other guys, you can sell this to lobbyists,
lobbyists are giving people millions of dollars for their
reelection campaigns. And it really started in this in this
legislative Reorganization Act of 1970. That these votes, not
only the house of the committee votes were now recorded, and
public, but they installed the electronic voting machines in in
the House of Representatives and the Senate. And it's now
published within seconds. So you can see if you're a guy, you're
a boy, your gal, whoever is doing what they promised, and
you need to send the money or not. And what I thought was
interesting about this D'Angelo character is he said, we could
solve everything, not the way the two researchers have the
report, say, you know, by millions of dollars, everybody
getting together and a huge movement. Now we could just say,
why don't we just go back to anonymous votes in the House in
the Senate? And they
are this bullshit. Why? For one thing, that's nonsense. Anytime
there was a really important vote, you can find the voting
records of people back before the 1970s. If there was
something important they do it today they do yea or nay and
then somebody say anybody can go. I'd like a recorded vote and
they do it. I agree. And they used to do it. They've always
done it. I don't believe any of this stuff does MIT guy says, I
think it all sounds dubious. It's not enough to have there's
something I'm looking at the chart right now out on the good
side is mike.com nyc.com. They got all this stuff on there. And
they got this chart. One of the charts, they have the flatline
charts, they have all of them, but they have this one chart
called income gains widely shared in early postwar decades.
But Since then, and then you can see very clearly from 1950 to
1970, just what he said, There was a one to one, the 95th
percentile of people, the median and the bottom people all gained
income with on the same exact curve, going straight up 97 A
flat flattens out a little bit because there was a depression
anyway. 1975 is actually where it starts to diverge, and it
starts to diverge and diverge and diverge, and it never stops.
And the big divergence is the 95. The top people, the one
percenters, Five Percenters, whatever they're called, they
start making a lot more money and everybody else kind of like
dwindles on the vine, they kind of an agenda starts to separate
and all the way so something did happen in the 70s. But I don't
believe it was because of the way they voted in Congress. And
you couldn't point out that this guy voted the wrong way. What
would that tell? How does how does that go into effect? Income
distribution? I just don't see it. There's something else I
didn't say
to find, I didn't say affected income distribution. I didn't
say that. I said it affected what the people wanted in at on
mass and what they got and what the financial elites wanted. And
well, they go, okay. I've never said anything about income. But
it boils down to that. No, it does not, it
does to me, what do people want is more money. Okay. So in order
interest or buy money or money, yes, they didn't get as much
influence than you are. And also the implications about lobbyists
is also very dubious that there's a lot more money going
around. There's a lot I think it has to do with, I'd like to find
out when that law was passed that you don't if you're a
congressman, you can invest on insight, you can do insider
trading. I think that that date would be could it could I have
you,
just for one moment, just breathe. And listen to the idea
the concept of having just the concept I that's all I really
want to discuss here. If the votes that and there's a whole
discussion to be had about my representative, I presume that
we are vote representatives to go represent us. And of course,
the downside is you don't know what your guy voted for. But you
vote someone because you think that they know all the angles,
and they're going to be working on your behalf. Otherwise, you
vote them out. But it's very hard to vote somebody out when
their votes are public, and they're selling their votes.
They're essentially selling their votes, not just for the
insider trading, insider trading deals they do that are hidden in
the basement. Everybody's selling their vote, you give me
this much money, I
want to know what they voted on.
I'm right. I'm asking you to, for a moment step back and think
about what would happen would it change? Because that's the
central point that this guy is making? If we had those votes,
not be public attributed to each individual representative? Would
that change the money that is being put into these coffers for
votes? No. Why not?
Because I'm the guy working with who some of these when lobbyists
about mining, and I want my state to be mined out. And so
the vote comes up for this and it starts to be defeated.
Meanwhile, I'm getting a lot of money for this from these guys
to to get this thing passed. So I call for a roll call vote. I
wouldn't let it pass. It wouldn't let this go. Oh, yes.
No, I mean, yeah, fine. They can do that. For most laws. I'm
asking something important to me in my state and I'm an I'm a
steward for a lobbyist I'm calling for a roll
call vote. And I'm saying this is what I'm saying? What if just
What if you made that no longer possible?
No, no roll call a major change. And of course it's a major
change but I problem within the again that there's a problem
because they're Beach, then you'd be watching C span and
they'd be doing these votes and you'd be here. Everybody in
favor say aye? Aye. Everybody, pro se yet ne ne ne ne and the
eyes have it. It would be scandalous. And you've seen this
happen in Congress, you watch C span and we every so often they
pull one of these things off, and nobody says yes. And they
say yes has it. This is book bull crap.
Your view are so stuck on just saying bullcrap. You're not
really listening to what I am saying to the argument. I think
you're not arguing I'm asking. I'm asking. So forget that. What
if we had a secret vote just secret vote a cardboard box, you
put your vote in there. Then they go in the open up and they
say here's the way they do elections? Here's all the secret
votes that people voted in secret for our president or for
your your for your representative. Why is that? Why
is that not open? Why don't we just have that open? Look? No,
no, no, I'm gonna say this. Open that up. Let's have the same
rights as Congress so I can sell my vote.
Because you're not you're voting for representatives. It's
different than voting for laws. There's it's not as though
you're voting for a law if you're voting for a law I'd like
to know if you voted yes or no. That's why it's open. You can't
have a bunch of secret crap. You want the Congress to be run by a
secret than the bag.
Here's the mistake you make with me. I don't want anything. I'm
putting a debate out there. You attack it like I'm some fucking
moron,
attacking the MIT guy. It's a bogus argument.
It's funny, I don't I see it as I think it has some validity.
I'm just no
entity to see. This is like, Yeah, I'm sure the Politburo and
Russia in Moscow would do it that way. That's fine. That's
not the way we operate. We like to know what our people are
voting on it. Why are they voting? Yes. are they voting?
No, I think I know, I think
if you look at who was the French guy, the two co the guy
who wrote the Democracy in America.
Allah Alex De Tocqueville. Yeah, that guy de Tocqueville.
I'm gonna go back and read that I believe that there are
examples of, of governments that function very well, where this
part of the process is not open the way it is now. Because I'm
just saying, when you have, here's all, here's only one
thing I really agree with. I know that if we have a little
group of Ms. 10, guys, and we're gonna vote, and we all know what
each other votes, there's a lot of stuff that comes into play,
because oh, he votes that I don't want to vote that. Whereas
if you really want it to be your conscience, or what the people
that you're supposedly representing, and for it not to
be something that you can necessarily sell with proof that
you voted some way. It's interesting to think about it.
And I don't think that necessarily means you're
immediately in Nazi Germany, or in, in deep red Russia, I think
it's interesting to explore, since not only does it not seem
that, that there's any way of stopping the money that is
controlling politics, the limits of contributions were just
raised tenfold with this new bill that was passed. So it's
clearly the path we're on is not working. Well,
we know that. Well. There's a lot of reasons for that. But we
do know that who voted yes and no, on this particular thing
that allows you to bring in even more money, it's did turn the
whole thing into a secret society that just kind of votes
on the back, I think, is even more corruptible. Because then
when I didn't vote for that new I don't know who did. I'm the
one guy who said no,
what would we be? Would we report would we be worse off?
Yeah, well, I think we'd be way worse off. These guys would be
just taking money hand over fist.
But they would do it anyway. What's the it's easier now?
Because they can prove that they voted the way
it's easier now because the public is irresponsible and
doesn't look at these guys and say this guy's a crook. Let's
get him out of here. All he's doing is taking lobbyist money,
which you can now easily identify the guy votes or
something. And the lobbyists get you know, the guy behind it is a
bad law to do. We're part of that group. That's a flatline we
don't have any influence. Get some influence, vote these guys
out.
Okay. All right. Well, that's not gonna happen. And it's one
thing that's not gonna happen. Well, that's not gonna happen.
It can
happen.
Oh, that's the English
super PAC going like divorce. Super PAC. All right, you got me
Eric is gonna set it up by the way.
What the hell does that mean? How do I make any money with the
super PAC and pay you get a pay here and be a paid consultant?
How
explain that. Forget this. How do I make money off of the
broken system we have now I don't give a shit about trying
to fix what we're doing. I think everybody
got a lot of these flaws. And I think it could be part of the
super PAC. How does that work? The Super PAC? I don't know. I
have no idea.
Okay, well,
there's lots of there's lots of power behind one if you can
really don't want power. Who the hell wants power? I do. All
right. Well, that was a good a good little argument there. I'm
happy. Let's do something like let's just do something.
lightful. Let
me let me interrupt and make a segue. I do. I did catch a
native advertising that I want to play. Nice, guys. We're
watching it and it's a it is such shameless. This is a
shameless native ad. Do you remember when you were in the
radio business? And they you know, we talked about this
before, but a lot of people don't know about it. You
especially in the early days used to get a disc. Yes. That
was an interview that you had the questions too, and it was so
Dimmick and you saw you play the disc? And it'd be so much some
guys on the disc, answering questions that you as the DJ or
the interviewer or whatever you were doing. Were asking the guy
Yes. So it sounds Like you've got the guy or the gal or the
person in the studio and then so yeah, but it's really a
syndicated thing. Yes. Syndicated?
Well, a lot of this native native advertising, I believe is
done this way that you would take they have a package
produced, they give it to the station. Yeah, you'd have your
local person do some voiceover here and there, right and then
the nice thing that's done designated as an advertisement
this particular native ad, this is the one but I'm going to tell
you which one it is you can cue it up. It's horse instead. But
horse tours are us. So Oh, yes, I saw this. I'm so happy you
caught this. This is a good one. He saw it. Oh, this was great.
Let's station played it. It costs it whatever the public
relations
cost him 20 grand that's all
it didn't cost him 20 grand it was $200 that the woman got her
thing picked up on I read a different version of it then
okay, what's the same thing Toys R Us has had his native ads
thing going up and up and down the West Coast has all done
locally. We don't know you know a lot of is vague. The joke of
it to me was the piece ran exactly one and a half minutes.
Yeah. Appetite.
Well, that's That's it can be three units or it's one mega
unit. That probably be a mega unit. Now it was a it was well
done. It was let's just play it. That's it. So this is good.
It says I'm sorry. I'm just gonna mention this is bullcrap
is messaging, it's pre Christmas pro Christmas is probed.
Generosity is a lot of stuff, but it's an advertisement for
Toys R Us
Yankee went to Toys R Us to put some of the toys Briana wanted
on layaway. She put $20 down, but the total was more than 200
Oh my gosh. How am I gonna pay for it and then all sudden this
happen? What happened was a phone call from Toys R Us today.
Hi, this is Veronica Winchester. Just to let you know we have an
anonymous guest. Come in and pay off your layaway. When you're
ready, we actually have your layaway ready for pickup. Thank
you.
I just said thank you God. Thank you God. That's what I said.
Yong ki picked up the toys. This is all things that were on her
list. The store told Bianca The Secret Santa wishes to remain
anonymous. But the mother wanted to show her gratitude. I just
want to say thank you so much for making our Christmas the
best Christmas I've ever had. Bianca hopes her story will help
others I was hoping that no other families would give up
that to believe and have faith that a miracle can happen.
Secret Santa's paid off Bianca is a cow just in time we're told
all airways here will be canceled if not picked up by
tonight. Now people paying off layaway accounts anonymously is
a trend around the country on Wednesday a woman walked into a
store in Massachusetts spent $20,000 and paid off every
single account there Julie making wishes and dreams come
true for the holidays Amber thank you
yeah that's where I heard the 20,000 I thought that the the
lady the store that she went to had been the 20,000 pay off but
it probably didn't even have that was just that was just a
store if
I was none of this this is just to get more people to Toys R Us
lay away and then maybe some some good personal Kumbaya. Hey,
it was all crap. It was great. This was very good.
Everyone was eating it up Excellent. lapping it up. And
you
know what happens is they send this to a number of affiliates
or stations and as a as a package. But everyone jumps on
board and it goes kind of viral. You don't have to pay for all
that extra stuff.
I know it's really really really good genius, I think is one of
the finest things I've heard for a while in terms of has been
Toys R Us account and I don't know if they paid for the 1.5
minutes. Or if they that's what
I'm saying. It's just a giveaway of a promotion. Who has the Toys
R Us account let's take a look for a second here.
I don't know if we can find it but if it was Adelman it
wouldn't surprise me they're like really deep into this stuff
so
Toys R Us and it just stations
didn't get paid for this they should have been paid for it
they're idiots
Well, yeah, I think a lot of them are idiots. But yeah, the
the ones who are really all in I think are the ones that send
people to go stand in front of the in front of the Toys R Us
I'm sending a tech crew out to do this then yeah huh I can't
find it. This is difficult.
Well, I You gotta go to their homepage. Here's the let's see
who's here. I've got the press room I got to the press room.
But that's gonna give you the in house guys.
And they could have multiple they could have different
pieces. Some of them
have multiple Yeah, big companies like this will have
multiple agencies Corporate Communications press Toys R Us
Let's say you guys are hard to spot sometimes.
But it was well done and I'm so glad you had audio for that
because I saw this and when Dad this is this is great everyone's
gonna go to Toys R Us because yeah,
you might get everything for free would
happen. Yeah, you could be just as lucky as
the piece kind of full of falls apart for me we're at the point
where they got the warning. And by the way, if you don't pay off
by Thursday, we'll take their stuff that that was a blunder.
I think that was actually just poorly written copy
maybe or even agency genuine threat they tried to slip in
could be
could be I don't. Advertising, you have to do you have to go to
like ad? Was it Ad Week or something like that? Yeah,
you're gonna have
actually Ad Week and advertising, which I think
doesn't do much anymore. But Ad Week for sure. Because the
agencies that pull these off, they go into those magazines and
they brag about it. Man, we had a great promotion and we had we
had suckers coming in and
they do brag about it, right? They brag endlessly about it.
Well, they'll give each other awards.
That's true. You bet. You bet. Toy news will never cover that
because it makes them look
like idiots Young and Rubicam. But this is all old. It's I'm
Yeah, it's fine. It's got your it's got to be a boutique agency
who was kicking ass with this. This is what we should screw the
super PAC. This is what we should be doing.
No, no, no, I don't want to do that. I think this the lowest of
the low. Well, hello scamming the public? What's a Super PAC
then?
No, it's super PAC does good.
In the chat room, they said hey, when you have power you get you
know, it's an aphrodisiac. Yeah, you get an automatic chick
magnet, Gene mate. Well, meanwhile, the other real news
that is buzzing around no one in Hollywood could talk about
anything else. But this in
the wake of the cyber attack the Hollywood cyber attack damage
control every day facing new revelations, like the email
exchange between Sony co Chairman Amy Pascal, I love
movie producer Scott Rudin
can't get enough of this report.
This is actually highly entertaining.
I love BuzzFeed. in it.
I love that BuzzFeed again, Buzzfeed. These BuzzFeed is they
are very good at doing this stuff really tinge
speculation about President Obama's taste in movies. Today
me Pascal issued an apology, saying in part, the content of
my emails to Scott were insensitive and inappropriate,
but are not an accurate reflection of who I am.
I love this. The views held and representative in the no agenda
show are not necessarily representative of who I am.
Except for what I wrote in email,
rude and apologized as well. private emails written in haste
can result in offense where none was intended. Oh, deeply sorry.
I'm deeply sorry. No one says racist cocksuckers and racist
about the president.
It's Hollywood and that the irony is, of course, Holly was
all in on the Democrats and the president. I think
both of them are big donors to the Democratic Party. Yeah. And
they just made a racially insensitive, though it is
insensitive jokes. It's crazy how they're being protected in
this. This should have been a Republican or someone from the
south or someone from Texas. Now then,
yeah, some somebody takes tar and feathered
and hung up. But oh, no, this your shows we need to what are
they calling it to? We need more diversification? The what's the
word? What's the word? Yeah, we need more. We need to diversify
Hollywood.
Good luck. That's it. I really needs it. Anyway, let Hollywood
be what it is. It's funnier. We had that like they have the
salaries in there. They got all kinds of good stuff coming out
tons
of good stuff.
I think this should be done more often. I I admire the guys who
crack Sony and said public put a whole thing out there as public
domain. I think the rise the curtain have raised the veil of
secrecy on all companies.
And they're trying to bring it back to if there was a horrible
crime perpetrated on our company. This is what we should
be talking about. No, no, this is really good. What's going on
here? This is really really good. This is Sony being taken
down by someone who I don't know competitor could be anybody. But
who? Well, it's not North Korea.
No, that's definitely not North Korea. What's the point?
I'd be looking at? I look
at Microsoft. They're the ones with the big against the Xbox
and PlayStation interesting. Could be one of the other movie
companies. Well, that's
what I was thinking that would be the way to go because they
went after the movie database board and anything else? They
already hacked away at their game site? That would have been
like a number of years back. Right.
And that was probably Sony's crisis management who went to
blame it on North Korea. Do something. Yeah, I
think that was a blunder.
I think it was. All it did is well, it does promote the Seth
Rogen movie, but that's not really going to help when you
get the executives talking like that.
No, it could have been China.
Well, yeah, China. Yeah, that's possible.
I mean, China train even no China. studio space, they have a
bunch of about $3 billion. And some studios and I think north
of Beijing or south of Beijing, a bunch of studios.
They opened it up and everyone went there and yeah, a bunch you
guys
filming there even though the Chinese government has
oversight, which is not a good idea for anything artistic? And
I don't know. Maybe Sony? I don't know.
Well, it's definitely PR for Rory on this PR for the Rogen
movie for sure. And all the other stuff is just ran PRs
not even good PR. Because all they do is show clips of the
rogue everyone you see clips of that movie. Do you want to
actually want to go see the movie?
Oh, is stupid. I I think enough people be heard that looks cool.
Man. You hear that was better than it was good. Well, it's
Christmas Day opening.
It'll work? No, it won't. I think it's gonna be a flop.
I had drinks. Thursday night after our show, which I don't
typically do. As you know, I'm pretty much like, I'm done. I
gotta rest. It's like running a marathon.
Man, I pooped.
I had drinks with my ex, big time banker from New York. You
remember, this is the guy who I asked about some of the suicides
and he knew some of the guys and
yes, you brought him up a couple of shows ago, right?
And I, I got two drinks in him. And I said, Wow, man, what do
you think about this? This derivatives and FDIC thing this
is the turning back of Dodd Frank with this is this is
really, this is something and he said, This is the best thing
that could ever happen to America. Right, exactly,
exactly. An ex banker. I said, Well, why don't you explain?
Explain, please, he says, This is the last thing that we need
to do to completely destroy Barclays society in general. And
UBS. He says this, when if this goes through, which I guess it's
now gone through, the President will have to sign it. And the
President said that he wasn't a fan of it, but he was going to
put it in there. Because this puts us a this is so good for
the United States economy, if this is going to make our
banking industry rule the world. And he tried to explain to me
the all the ins and outs of how it worked with the swaps. And he
says really, when the next crisis could not if he's when
the next crisis is coming up. Which means you know, the guy's
being real with me. When the next crisis come, he says just
so you know, the IMF is a joke, they have no power. You keep
saying this, you really have to get off this IMF thing. It Fifi
Lagarde is worthless. It's just it's a distraction to what the
US banks in particular Bank of America and Citibank, the power
they will have with these derivatives being able to be
kept in separate entities. So that if the if something
collapses, then they will have to be bailed in, bailed out
wherever you want to call it. He says when it goes down, the
system will be stable. But yes, one bank will be completely
wiped out. And that's whoever is, you know, odd man out in the
musical chairs at the time. He says this is going to be so good
for us. And I thought it was refreshing to hear that.
Well, I've always been on the edge. As you know, I've always
been under the impression in of the opinion
that we should be pumping 100 times more money into the
economy right now that yes,
that's one of the points I continually make over and over.
But the other one is, somehow in these in these financial games,
we always win. Somehow we always win. I mean, that's what we only
do do of all the countries in the world. We're the only ones
that think talk business. That's all we do. And now some military
stuff, as Eric was pointing out the other day was saying, How
would you know we're talking about the Warthog getting
refunded? Yes. What other country would citizens just
rolling around just aimless, everyday citizens even know what
the Warthog was? We all know what it is
everybody. Yeah, because that's what we do is the complete loss
slaves that are doing nothing more than watching Honey Boo
Boos
and that was canceled. are ready and
they're clued in know about the Warthog, you know of all this
stuff. And it seems to me that we always win these these
battles. Now a guy forgot a couple of things we have to
release discuss this. This is the clip here is India and
Russia. Russia, of course is it's still somewhat baffling to
me why we've just taken such a dislike to Russia is Putin. I
mean, there's a lot of people that hate him. Really him and
try, but that this none of it seems to be working. So they
Russia has been I think this has always been a mistake. I don't
see any reason why we can continually do business with
Russia. And we're the bad guys in the Ukraine situation. We
do continue to do business with Russia, but just on our terms,
which is yeah, a lot of their 90 Day financing,
but they don't like the sanctions and the rest of it. So
you know the deal with the replay the Indian Russia clip so
we can catch up to what the Russians have been up to
India and Russia agreed to significantly boost energy
cooperation this week. During Vladimir Putin's visit to Delhi,
the sides signed a number of ambitious agreements worth about
$100 billion. First of all, Russia has agreed to supply
India with 1 million tonnes of oil annually. By 2017, India
will start receiving 2.5 million tons of LNG liquefied gas per
year. However, it's India's atomic sector that will get the
most impressive boost as Russia will build up to 24 nuclear
power stations in the country. On top of that, the Indian Prime
Minister reiterated that Russia remains its most important
partner in the defense sphere. However, the Dean of India's
jindao School of International Affairs believes it's high time
for the countries to diversify their cooperation further.
They're doing the same in Turkey, Russia is also going to
build well the reactor in Turkey,
right? If you play RT analysis on Russia sanctions, you get
that part of it
crushes isolated, that's the message Western politicians and
media are sending. But I'm not so sure. Today, for instance,
they clinched a huge atomic deal with India to build 12 nuclear
reactors in 20 years plus, Russia will be shipping oil to
India. That's not enough to prove Russia has friends I know.
But what about Turkey, Moscow and Ankara agreed to build a
major pipeline connecting both countries as an alternative to
South Stream plus deliveries via already existing blue stream
pipeline are going to be expanded. And let's not forget
about China $400 billion gas deal by the bear and Dragon was
sealed back in May. The deal was boosted just a couple of weeks
ago.
Right. Which is why I always say I think the United States elites
and Putin are playing on the same team and they're all
invested in in this is the way to China and India and whatever
it's it could be it almost seems that's
not a possibility. Yeah. But this Ukraine thing is completely
out of control. I in terms of the politics of it, they have
this thing going on now called lustration. And this isn't
reported at all in American media that I can spot but
lustration is the effect here play the illustration clip.
Number one, just illustration. No,
the EU has branded as very bad a new law in Ukraine that bans
former officials from power. European constitutional experts
said it shouldn't become a tool of revenge over political
opponents. Ukraine now has three months to review it. Here's what
SDF
lustration noun a policy of cleansing a new regime from the
remnants of the past and Ukraine has taken to it with abandon.
September he have adopted a new law which declares Open Season
former officials, police elected representatives and even
clerics, it reportedly bans more than a million Ukrainians from
ever holding a government job.
However, if you're an American and you've been running a hedge
fund for USA, ID, passport, you can be the finance minister.
Bingo Boom shakalaka so that's great.
They showed in this clip they showed like some poor guy who
happened to be in the old government. He was talking to
some news report and a whole bunch of gang thugs grabbed him
and started beating him up and they threw him in they throw all
these guys in a trash dump unit
Yeah, you never see that I saw the pictures that was a while
ago but you never see that and on the media here barely
funny. trash dump and they've been like a dumpster and then
they close the lid and pound on the thing and then they throw it
or kids set the thing on fire. I don't know if things burning I
think I'm pretty sure illustration to this is all
going on right as we speak, leaving them
pray. The mobs and vigils answers
the street violence is scared even Kyiv, the interior
minister, urging people to restrain themselves
a few more lynchings and broken faces. And I fear Europe and
America will turn away from us don't behave like savages,
Ukraine as a European country.
No, it's not he was
right to be worried. Alarm bells are ringing in Europe, reached
all the way up to the European Commission for democracy law,
which is issued a scathing condemnation, according to a
transcript that says lustration may only be practiced if guilt
is established individually.
Wow. How can we screwed this one up? Even this is one thing
we didn't there's this lack of realization that Ukrainians are
crazy. There are a lot of Nazis there were the ones on the
German side and World War Two. Well, it's a corrupt country,
right?
Yes, in some of our State Department, representatives,
colluded with the crazies. That I think naively Yeah, maybe, but
don't I stupid.
So I did. And this is crazy. What's going on? Did you notice
the note lynchings they're hanging these
guys. So the part of this or a large portion is the money that
is this country is about to go seriously, seriously broke. They
can't pay back anything. They can't pay back the IMF there's
no way for them to pay. Gazprom the whole thing is collapsing.
and the EU says oh, yeah, well, who can we get? I guess the
United States gave them Ukraine a billion dollars a note or
whatever it was, which I'm sure went straight to Gazprom. There
isn't there's nothing there's no money this this place is in a
complete and utter meltdown. The end? I think we I'll just say we
the elitist of the State Department, Kerry and Nuland and
the Kagan's they're walking away from it. They don't care
anymore. Now it's It's turkey. Screw that. And by the way, did
you hear what happened just last night? No. Erawan shut down.
He's shutting down any press. That is that he doesn't like
let's put it that way. Anything that he feels is related to
Gulin for tele Gulin our our CIA guy who's living in exile, and
they're arresting journalists, and they're shutting down the
television stations and this is a preemptive strike we've had
we've had things happen before but now he's he's just going in
and arresting the news people.
We will the Ukrainians are too and yeah, I went I switched to
France 24 to get some balances of everything on RT and play
this clip. This is Ukraine censorship. And this guy is on
the there's a show called that we have one station is off
France van cat. And this one thing called the debate and it
has what they want guys getting grilled. And it's pretty good
level of grilling that you won't hear in the United States, but
play Ukraine censorship story machine by Russia.
So they have to counter this influence on the counter. Have
we talked about this on Thursday, by the way? Yeah,
we did. This is a good clip, though. This is the ambassador
from the Ukraine to France
machine by Russia. So we have to counter this influence within
the country, of course, in the east of the country. But also in
the West, we have to project the truth. Our view about the why
don't you trust a friend and journalist to tell the truth?
Why do you need a so called Ministry of Truth to check
whether what is being brought is indeed true trust
Ukrainian journalists, many of them are professional, but
definitely the effort to project our view of the situation on the
ground is to be beefed up supported by the government's
resources. It's not a matter of control. It's the matter of
making this message more efficient. Making sure that it
reaches the ears and the eyes of Ukrainians and people in the
West. I'd like to ask you
what do you even say? Well, we have to make sure it's a good
message
Yeah, well of course
and last one this last clip by the way, which is this is the
same guy I believe and this is the thing that I think has got
everyone worried this is the NATO the intentions that the
these get new these I don't know what to call them Nazis that
took over Ukraine thanks to us. I think they're living in a
complete dream world because there's this is never going to
happen this NATO joining NATO, but they think it is and this is
the NATO Ukraine clipped
one last word on NATO, the President of Ukraine recently
declared that he wants his country to join the Alliance by
the end of the decade. He says there will be a referendum. Of
course, now, you know that Germany is against the idea
France is against the ID, and this is an absolute red line for
Moscow. aren't you shooting yourself in the foot when you're
making such declarations? Not
at all, it's easy for me to talk because there have been
consistently brought need to sort of person, I think that
need to is, was all deficiencies, difficulties
confronted by the Alliance is the best collective security
organization in the world, and the only one which can guarantee
Ukraine's territorial integrity and real sovereignty. At the
same time, when people speak about irritating Russia
irritating the bear. They actually do they quite often now
forget, this situation cannot be worse than now.
Okay, I want to lay a couple more pieces on the table. And
I'm gonna ask you a question about this. So Ukraine is is
clearly a setup for a battleground, I think that it
would be a good place to do it. No one cares. I hate saying it
that way. But just Well, then,
I think that some of Europe cares, because so much gas goes
through Ukraine from
Russia. So that's where we get to the second piece, which is
Turkey. Now the thing about Turkey, which is not really
discussed much is how they are not participating in the so
called war against the degradation of isI s ISIL is
whatever you want to call it. In fact, quite the opposite. They
are flowing fighters through to go into it because they hate the
curd, the PKK, which is also part of what Syria has, that's
Syria has always been their issue. This is a very fertile
ground for something really to take place. And what I want to
ask you, is there a comparable situation to what we're seeing
now, with Turkey, with, perhaps with Ukraine, but certainly with
Russia and the EU and the US to previous large scale
conflagration such as First and Second World War? Is there
anything that comes close to it? And what would the trigger
mechanism be that we should be looking out for
a prince Ferdinand? guy like that showing up in randomly
killed?
Really, that's all it would take?
Place? Well, the way things are going you don't know what it's
going to take me they've been lynching guys they've been
killing people is a Ukrainian situation is completely out of
control. We don't get any reports of it in the United
States, even though we were the ones behind it. Essentially,
it's and I said the word. I don't Yeah, something could
trigger it. I don't know what. But I think we're still in the
process of globalization. I think we've pretty much
decimated Ukraine horrible. And I think Turkey, we tried already
once and maybe I don't know, if we can we're going to do there.
I don't know, I there's these things when they happen. It's
like, ah, should have spotted that. I think it's one of those
things that's so obfuscated by all the crap going on. And you
know, the oil and the gas and the phony sanctions and all the
rest of it. I don't know it makes it I think it's, I think
it's a smokescreen, we probably should be able to identify in
advance. Well, we, the two of us should be able to identify this
trigger mechanism in advance.
Okay. I think the trigger mechanism is assassination of
Erawan, which you said is probably pretty much the only
thing left, that would trigger something and depending on who
pops in, or do we have some kind of military takeover? that would
that would be the one I think,
well, that would definitely cause a problem.
Yeah, there's that.
I'm going to show my son moved by Jonah to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
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you go rolling out the karma Ah, let me see. Have you seen the
all the latest? ISIS bull crap Oh, my God, these people are
relentless. It just doesn't quit
because their social media experts
now they have I just caught this on CNN. They have a rape and sex
slave manual. And whenever it's yes, I know whenever you want to
go and find this stuff. This is all found by site. You recall
this this group that we that we analyzed.
The ones who do the do make these things
up from GE as far as I'm concerned, they are indeed the
ones that that do this stuff. So because when they say Oh, we
found this on some ISIS jihadi websites, I can never find the
jihadi website don't put the link in there. No. And then and
they're so incredibly good at social media. Well, it's hard
for me to see anything that's really out there but okay, I
guess I'm wrong. Here's the report on this. And this this
whole thing is so bogus live but the and this is kind of the new
thing now is whatever happened of course we don't have footage
of you know, two Osprey Landing and 100 seem to Team SEAL Team
Six guys going to get the hostages and then getting found
out by a guard peeing against the wall no do animations of
everything. Everything's animated we got everything and
so now we have this guide we should have that Japanese group
do it you know, sometimes it looks like that Japanese group
that does the Steve Jobs stuff so well. That was a joke fail
that joke things Yeah, yeah, jokes. So this is now it's not
look we're not looking at a website. We're not looking at a
at a document someone is holding. We're looking at an
animated page turning thing that is in Arabic and I guess that
means it's the manual
ISIS militants have released a guidebook on how to use young
girls as sex slaves. In it isis justifies child rape, it offers
tips on capturing and punishing young girl tips.
s&m clubs, what is their tips?
Just yesterday, armed men handed out this pamphlet that they call
questions and answers on female slave You send their freedom.
Hey, John,
do you have I have a couple of questions about female slaves
and their freedom. Do you have any tips? Not yet,
after sunset prayers in Mosul, our Ian Lee has war.
This isn't really a surprise. We've known this has been going
on for quite some time. But what this gives us is another window
into the ISIS organization,
the ISIS organization, I guess they have these in the back of
the Toyota's
27 points brochure really just details, the rules for rape and
the foreign things like raping pre pubescent girls. And really
my impression from this is that these spiders, these people do
not view their captives as human beings they are property to be
dealt with to be used and abused. However they like one of
them was lucky enough to escape and talk to our IVAN WATSON A
while back, take a listen.
Okay, so now they have a, you can't really see if it's a girl,
a woman, the whole face is blurred out. It really, you
really can't see anything there's she's speaking in, you
can't hear because there's a voiceover. And this is now going
to be the proof of what is going on to accentuate the, I guess
the reality of this brochure with tips.
Since they came
to the room and looked around at the girls. And if they liked
one, they chose her and took her. If the girls cried and
didn't want to leave, they beat the girl. The guy who chose me
was 70 years old. And he took me to his house. There were four
years Ed girls there already.
They I didn't know that ISIS had 70 year old guys, I haven't seen
those in the Toyotas anywhere yet seen any of those
hit us. And they didn't give us enough to eat or drink. They
told us we were infidels. He put me in a room and put a gun to my
head. And I was on the ground. And he said I will kill you
because you won't convert to Islam that night because
that seems to be the common theme everywhere, doesn't it? If
you don't convert to Islam, we'll chop your head off, we're
gonna rape you is this is this is the continuous message and
took
an 11 year old girl away. And when she came back, she told me
they raped her.
Reading that pamphlet. Also, there was another point and it
said that the greatest sin for one of these slaves is to escape
from their master sending a very dire warning. And to get an idea
of the kinds of people who are buying them. Take a look at this
video. This shows a roomful of ISIS fighters. They are getting
ready you're
literally seeing a handycam footage a bunch of guys go.
Nothing else to acquire,
but they're slaves. And really, they're joking about it, you can
really get the impression of how little value for human life that
these men have, and really the living hell that these female
slaves are living through,
though I of course assert that this is all propaganda that I
see no, no. No evidence of this much today I realize it and
another piece came out which was this is one of these things that
only really works when you are making an audio clip of it. And
of course, so there's a new report new video of an ISIS
drone flying above Kobani showing that they are in control
and then the drone zooms down and then we're following some,
apparently some ISIS guys, they have the you know, they have the
clean, very clean camos on you know, not dirty at all because
it's all brand new material brand new stuff that they're
wearing the balaclavas. So that's all kind of par for the
course. But we're in a bottle of us. balaclavas. What is that
those
days? No, I didn't.
I didn't say this at balaclavas. Okay. Usually I say balaclava,
that not today. And what you're seeing is just three different
sequences. One guy shooting a bazooka or an RPG, what we used
to call a bazooka. Now it's an RPG. One guy just standing in
the open shooting, and of course, we're pretty much
parallel to him with the camera. It's not a good place to be if
some guy is actually shooting at someone who's shooting back.
You're not going to be standing right next to him with the
camera but okay, then we have a guy inside a building with a
huge tripod mounted machine gun, a 50 caliber and he's just
shooting through the wall. This is just people shooting we see
no anything coming back or whatever, please see these guys.
However, they have sweeten this video throughout the whole thing
with this, this sequence listen to it. So you hear this machine
gun fire in the background with a ricochet, Peugeot. It's
literally these are all stone things. This is I don't This to
me is a sound effect you can probably find on some sound
effects CDs. Yeah, I'm sure you can. Now if you listen to this
whole 4545 second report, which is on a report, it's just video
starts up into the so called drone. You're hearing this thing
over and over again in the background just to see I sit up
in between all of the staged firings oops
ricochet do another ricochet reracked the loop
it's the same loop over and over again
yeah the same way
now you got the firing in between but listen in the
background continuously the same loop
so this whole thing is produced from beginning to end company
and they're playing this on television like oh my goodness
look they've got a drone it this is this was really
LIS crapped out we're fed by the these people is horrible but
there's a new outfit which is very interesting and this is
some another business we should get that clip that well it's
it's online but it's been played by everybody I've seen every
every CNN MSNBC, everyone's been playing it because it starts
with a drone shot are so full knows why they think it's so
cool. But it's produced it's clearly produced with sweetened
audio. Here's something showed up on CNN. Just a story random
story, but it was very interesting. For a number of
reasons, not just the analysis, but also the group that did this
analysis. The title is ISIS brutal beheading videos search
for clues. It was a killing choreograph for maximum
brutality, the simultaneous beheading of 22 Syrian captives
held by ISIS. This was a part of the larger video of the most
recent so called the heading of who was the guy that I think
that was not fully. Now the last guy I can't remember Yeah, I
don't know if it'll show up in. In November, ISIS released a
propaganda video titled, though the unbelievers despise it it
featured the apparent murder of an American hostage, Peter
Kassig. Very good Peter Kassig known as Abdul Rahman Kassig.
After his conversion to Islam, of course, we tied him back to
us AI D through all of these different nonprofits, and the
math and he was a badass he was a ranger, and the mass killing
of what appeared to be nearly two dozen Syrian soldiers, the
US based terrorism research organization track terrorism
research and analysis consortium and UK based counter extremism
Think Tank, Quilliam. Quilliam have analyzed the footage frame
by frame to understand the videos production techniques,
the identity of the hostages and their killers and the visual
significance of such calculated brutality. This is actually very
good because we have said this, but they went a step further.
Here are some of their findings, the video would have cost at
least $200,000 to produce according to track. Similar to a
feature film. The video features multiple takes using high
definition cameras to create images of a professional
quality. Nearly all the killers appear unmasked and are clearly
identifiable. There are 22 ISIS fighters of varying ethnic
ethnicities and nationalities, all wearing the same camouflage
uniforms which are spotless I might point out. They are led by
the militant known to be the British in the British press as
Jihadi John the mask fighter with a British accent. Only one
of the killers had been identified a Muslim convert for
France. Here we go. Lighting and Shadows revealed the video was
shot over a four to six hour period. The video was shot in
multiple takes and contains several inconsistencies. The
order of the killers and prisoners in the lineup switched
in several places in certain frames fighters are seeing
chatting with one another apparently passing time between
takes. Two of the ISIS fighters were clip on microphones but
their audio is not recorded. It's possible they're recorded
messages were either cut out or have been saved for future
release. Yes for the Director's Cut. Three of the colors killers
have been edited out of the video seeing only in
transitional sequences. This includes a fighter in a
balaclava. The only massive Milton other than Jihadi John
track believes the second mass militant may be acting as a body
double for Jihadi John, someone who acts as a decoy in case of
an airstrike. And this was a very good analysis because we
looked at this video and it is it is truly of Hollywood epic
proportions, which of course now can be done if you have $200,000
You can certainly create something looks really scary and
have real high quality and
I was hoping you could do it cheaper.
Or we could do it cheaper. We got a lot gotta pee, you know,
it's just it's catering. That's that. That's expensive. It's
this craft services. That's what I was looking for craft
services, I'm sorry, craft services. So I went to look at
this track outfit. These guys are pretty interesting. I have a
promotional video which I'd like to play of what they're all
about. You ready? I'm
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when you look at what these guys have, they are pretty much a
database that puts all these things together, and they sell
it to CNN, obviously, and probably to some governments and
think tanks. But wow, these guys are making assumptions and
putting stuff in here. And this is run by the Beachum group. Are
you familiar with Walton keep going? The Beachum group and
they say they have 2800 experts who live and report from
terrorism hotspots worldwide and then they just list pretty much
every
day says it's an intelligence gathering organization probably
financed by MI six
founded as Beachum publishing the company's acclaimed title
span the impact of climate change with beaches guide to
endangered species and beaches guide to environmental issues,
to topical issues and literal literature to important societal
concerns with the Encyclopedia of Social Change eyes on these
guys
nobody lost me. No, I was listening to see if you had
anything to say.
Oh no, I just got a the internet connection thing crap.
Oh, works. Okay,
so you had to repeat the question.
Oh, there was no question. I was just I read the other things
they were doing. Did you hear about the the BM okay.
Yeah, they were seemed to be pretty broad based.
Well, very focused on social change, climate change
terrorism.
Each profile is getting a sense.
Well, it is if it's if it's going to be touted as a reliable
source and it's going to be used by the media and think tanks.
It's a source of your bullcrap in bull crap out I think these
guys are taking over from the site group.
I think we have to probably do the same that we have to look
into this a little deeper. Something's up with these guys.
Yeah, well, the beach and publishing that's that's about
as deep as I could get on on who they are. The other names don't
mean anything to me. The individual names
was definitely not the usual suspects that we see in these us
girls
now completely new but Walton Beach, Walton Beach him and then
we have Arab Binda Acharya and these may be Indians who's very
young con
me the editorial blessing guys first there was Beecham his name
Walton while Walton
Walton you very unclear wiki
entry on this guy.
I don't leave it in. Yeah, late. I see a lot they all on LinkedIn
actually. is interesting in itself. Here's Varian con. We'll
get the Varian con This is a woman Oh, wow, she looks badass.
I'm gonna be looking at beach in the in the Wikipedia or the
LinkedIn. What was very is funny pictures. She's off to the side
backlit came from the Georgia Institute of Technology Georgia
Tech. Pa, president of the BCM Group LLC, Florida area
publishing is that a publishing company on
a second? That other outfit was also from from Georgia. The guys
who financed the academics for He's who financed the Peter
Kassig outfit. Also Georgia Hmm
Interesting is vintage b2b has been around for 30 years, says
85 specialize in encyclopedic, sculpt, sculpt, sculpt, I don't
know what that means reference books and databases, databases.
So you said
George's to technology terrorism forum, he's on the terrorism
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This is good. This is good. This is really good. All right. Well,
I'm told it's another just another thing, just another one
of those popping up.
Terrorism group your Cresta join the terrorism group has been
received. You can adjust your settings here.
You're just you're saying hey, Pocahontas is now being touted
as the superstar.
I know this was all predicted over a year ago by Alisha. Well
by us
specifically.
We're not arguing about it. Two clips here
from probably all NBC or MSNBC,
but the liberal wings newest Star Senator Elizabeth Warren
was pushing back to this is not about partisanship. This is
about fairness.
That's that was an NBC here's Chris Matthews hardball.
Let me finish tonight with this revolution in the Democratic
Party that we're witnessing tonight. revolute senator
Elizabeth Warren's able to whip the party in defeating this
monstrous spending bill if she is seen as the key crusader
against Wall Street in this grand test of power. It will set
the course for the months and years ahead.
And that didn't happen.
No, of course not. It's just a lot of talk. I've noticed this
with Elizabeth Warren. She's a big talk but she doesn't
accomplish anything big talker. She's a big doll consumer Oh
student loans. Here's her big topics student loans these poor
students are getting ripped off so what nothing changes Oh
consumer protection oh it's horrible nowadays is horrible.
Nothing changes. Oh, there's bills no good nothing changes
she's she's a there's a light she doesn't do I don't think she
even tries to do anything. I think she's just a populist.
Trying to get votes
she creates great some phony phony. Yeah, she creates great
sound bites though they make for good sound bites. Yeah. Euro
land for a moment. Lots of stuff happening in the Euro land zone.
actually had a couple things here. Just to mention, here we
go. What do we have is a big protests in Italy anti austerity
measures. Of course, people are broken Hungary. Norway now
requiring ID and border crossings with its neighboring
Scandinavian countries because we have to be afraid of
obviously of the Islamic State and Spain. Now telling people to
shut up
the Spanish parliament has approved a highly contentious
bill that puts major restrictions on citizens right
to protest. The law limits protests to authorize rallies.
It makes all unauthorized gatherings punishable by fines
of up to $745,000 groups measure has been fiercely criticized by
opposition politicians and activist groups. several
lawmakers tied up their mouths and protests as MPs debated the
bill. Opponents say the legislation violates the right
to protest limits to freedom of expression and gives them more
power to police. They say the measure simply undermines
democracy. Spain has been hit by a wave of demonstrations and
strikes over the past months against the government's
austerity measures.
Do nothing eat in Italy 43% unemployment amongst the the
working capable group
of course a lot of the Italy's a mess. Yeah,
well, if Italy goes down and there's a lot and we're gonna
have a lot of problems in the EU. It's just it's I don't know.
Well,
that's why they're drawing attention to Greece. To Greece.
Yeah, Greece is falling apart now. And so they're all there
was looking at Greece right now so that to distract people from
Italy. Okay. Yeah, the Greece bought to go bankrupt and now
they're back on track for thinking about getting out of
the euro. The whole thing is a reset complete reset right to
where they were when we started talking about him like to go
over a year ago
in Hungary.
There's something screwy about Hungary. It keeps cropping up in
the news. It's
not like I didn't predict this. It's in the book. We talked
about hungry being on the What did you say? Where's the book?
I don't have the book in front of me. I'm not gonna start
thumbing through the book. Just tell us what you said
that it said look for regime change in Hungary. Oh, yeah, I
remember. And Viktor Orban. He is the President or Prime
Minister, I think President he has now called for a prime
minister. here's the here's the report, the Hungarian Prime
Minister who has vowed to remake his country into a quote, non
liberal state. Why would I want it to be non liberal? Of course,
he's even mean cozying up to Russia as the AP reports. Okay.
Well, they are doomed, called Friday for a mandatory drug
testing of politicians and journalists. It's that's great.
Interesting, and then this was the Tor blog had funny, very
strange posting. So Tor, of course, is what we believe to be
a completely compromised so called Identity concealing
system. Obviously, we know who it's financed by, which is a lot
of from the US government. And they posted a solidarity against
online harassment statement, which I found to be very strange
coming from Torx, who you would think they're all about free
speech, no matter what it is, speech is free, and you should
be allowed to say what you want to say. And that was the the
idea. Here's what the it's a long post, I'll just read the
opening, one of our colleagues has been the target of a
sustained campaign of harassment. For the past several
months, we have decided to publish this statement to
publicly declare our support for her for every member of our
organization. And for every member of our community who
experiences this harassment. She is not alone, and her experience
has catalyzed us to action, this statement is a start. And then
we will no longer hold back out of fear of uncertainty from an
opportunity to defend a member of our community online. We
write tools to provide online freedom but we don't endorse
online or offline abuse. How can you how can Tor be saying this?
They've been compromised. But
people need to really understand this. We know that online
harassment is one small piece of a larger struggle that women
people of color and others face against sexism, racism,
homophobia and other bigotry. Isn't the whole point of Tor is
so that free speech can continue. It may not be nice
speech.
But it's supposed to not about nice speeches about free speech,
big difference.
So this is this is the real compromise. I think this is
very, very, very telling
me it's code.
What do you mean, maybe it's code?
Maybe it's code for something else? We're just reading what it
says. But maybe it says something deeper?
I don't think so. I think probably okay. Well, I don't
think so either. I'm just saying maybe it's code. I'm just giving
him the benefit of the doubt we work
on anonymity technology because we believe in empowering people.
This empowerment is the beginning and a means not the
end of the discussion. Each person who has power to speak
freely on the net also has the power to hurt and harm. Oh, you
hurt me. You said something nasty
Sticks and stones may break my bones.
Yeah, don't remember that. We had the politician from upstate
New Jersey to sticks and stone your names calling does hurt.
Merely because one is free to say a thing does not mean that
it should be tolerated or considered reasonable. This is
Tor.
That is odd. I think that's the screwball thing you found right
ran into
Oh, it's on okay. It's not it's on the Tor blog. It's
I'm just saying I think a screw it doesn't make sense. The whole
thing is, is it's makes you wonder and they have What the
hell's going on with you guys. And
they have a huge list of everyone who was signed on to
this statement must be a couple 100 names here. I guess all
people who are somehow involved with Tor. Well, I wouldn't be
using Tor if you expect
I wouldn't be using but you should we already know you
should be using anyway.
I have only one last clip to play aside whatever you had. And
if you have any. I have
two good. Good. Let me play mine and then you play yours and I'll
play I'll finish. Ooh, big finish. All right, let's start.
Let's get this out of the way. I think we should at least report
it for people driving around in their trucks and you know,
listening to the show we should at least bring him up to speed
on the green piece fiasco,
Greenpeace whose mission is to protect the environment has been
accused of desecrating it. So for a stunt that involves
leaving a large message next to a giant set of land, sprawling
in a desert in Peru. They show you the site in question right
here, and so almost 2000 years old, the 93 meter long depiction
of a hummingbird, which is considered very sacred in Peru.
According to some researchers, the mystic gigantic image could
have been created for religious or astronomical purposes by
ancient artists. However, it looked rather different. After
Greenpeace activists left a message beside it. It says time
for change. The future is renewable, but the message ended
up backfiring. Access to the ancient area is strictly
prohibited. Not even the president is allowed to set foot
there without permission. And Peru's culture minister called a
stunt a true slap in the face of everything that Peruvians
consider sacred. The authorities are so angry. They've they filed
charges of quote, attacking archaeological monuments, a
crime that carries up to six years in prison.
Yeah,
they mean, they have the nerve to put those people in prison.
They mean well, they mean, they're mean they're idiots.
They mean, well, next thing their next target is Stonehenge,
they're gonna knock all the things so they
can get past the barricades and the fences. Back in the day,
man, you could just lean up against the Stonehenge take a
photo and I was fun. Alright, Europe. Oh, I thought you were
gonna do it two in a row. I did want to mention I just saw the
corner of my eye. The lower third Chiron on CNN Sony hackers
promised a Christmas gift. Ooh.
This is great. We're getting a Christmas.
Wait for the Christmas. People must be shitting themselves.
Oh, what do you think got? Oh, I see. You're right there free.
Oh, man. What are we gonna do?
This is from NPR. The drone operators. A lot of them are
millennials who are running drones. And there's these are
two man teams. NPR had a very long profile of a female. She
didn't fly the drone, but she operated the all the stuff on
board. And I just thought it would be interesting. If you get
bored of it. It's I only have like a minute 47 I cut it way
down as far as possible. Listen, if you think this is
interesting, just to hear a millennial talking about her job
of killing people and how she deals with it. And I know a
couple of people who have gone through this will listen to this
program. But this was just kind of, I don't know, it's nothing
hugely revealing other than Oh, wow, crap.
Taylor greets me at her suburban home. She's pretty she wears
makeup and eyeliner, peach nail polish. She has dove tattoos on
the inside of each wrist. And then you might think someone who
bombs places by remote control. It's like a game or something.
Video games actually make her sick.
Do those, you know first person shooter type things I get kind
of motion sickness. I always wanted to be an FBI profiler. So
I joined
Don't you love the up talking air for the run the flying the
drones max
into the intelligence portion.
It was 2003 around the start of the Iraq War. She was assigned
to what was then a small Air Force program just about 50
young men and women who learn to analyze images gathered by
Predator drones and act on them.
So yeah, I had no idea what I was getting into. There was no
press about them. Really, there was just what you heard word of
mouth through the community.
The military drone has two operators, a pilot who flies the
thing by remote control, and a sensor operator who manipulates
the cameras in the missiles. Taylor trained as a sensor
operator for six months at a base near Las Vegas. And then
just like that, she was running missions.
It was intense because you're these 19 year old kids who've
never had any experience in war or anything like that. And
you're getting trained how to, you know, blow things up and be
responsible for million dollar equipment flying over countries
that you've never even heard of.
Is this a great country or what John? We got 19 year olds
running the show. This is fantastic. And
they're not even protected by military law theory. Anyone
decided to go after him the stress
of even just practicing doing it was it was a little
overwhelming, you know, worrying that you're gonna mess something
up and, you know, messing something up could mean blowing
up the wrong house, targeting the wrong individuals following
the wrong cars. You know, things like that can make huge mistakes
and wait, because of course we know this is you know that we
have the killing Tuesday meetings where the President
sits with his little team there and they decide who they're
going to kill today with the drone. And they terrorize these
kids with that same fact, when it comes
to gathering intelligence and things like that.
higher reps were watching, they decided who to follow and when
to pull the trigger. But still, the stress was immense. You
would have
people saying, all right, the President is looking at what
you're doing right now. So don't mess up.
I actually believe it. I believe the President is sitting there
watching the killing of other people that believe this to us.
This is almost over, of course, how do these millennials deal
with it
seriously,
they would tell you stuff like that.
So a typical workday, maybe Taylor's snooping on insurgents
in Nigeria, or bombing terrorists in Afghanistan, and
then her shift ends, she walks out of the control station, and
she's in Nevada, ready to go home or go grocery shopping. Or
as Taylor says, Turn the beer light on,
we would all kind of drink. Cuz you can't talk to anybody else.
You know, everything you're doing is classified. And you
know, whether you did something that you were really proud of,
or you just did something that is leaving you walking around
with the, you know, 1000 yard stare, you can't talk to anyone
except for the people that you just did everything with, like
your crew. So you kind of bind together and drink a lot. And
that's pretty much how you deal with it.
It's gonna be a great generation.
There are they're drunk anyway. This is This is so sad. And you
know, it's really sad.
Yeah, we were bitching about rectal rehydration. Man, what's
going on? What are these people to be? What's going to become of
these kids? Oh,
yeah. Yeah, are the only last thing I have is apparently one
of the MPs was caught playing Candy Crush. Yeah, I saw during
the one of the meetings where, you know,
this was Miliband parliament where they go, yeah. And
Cameron are yakking at each other. And they're screaming.
Yeah, here, and this guy, and like a lot of that, and that was
going on. So this guy is playing Candy Crush. And for two hours,
apparently. And somebody took a picture of it and other guys in
the ship until of course, they started thinking, well, maybe
this guy is okay. And what we should do is look into the guy
who took the picture. Of course, there are a funny story. Well,
the shamed
MP won't face any action, but the person who took this picture
could lose their job, or the House of Commons has launched an
investigation because taking such photos breaches
parliamentary rules. Although some MPs say holding an inquiry
is pointless and nonsense. In any case, that media commentator
Neil Wallace says MPs should be focusing on the more vital
issues at hand.
I think you can laugh at this, and many will, but there is an
underlying serious point, isn't it? You know, this is a guy
who's been elected to Parliament, he's been paid a lot
of money. He's sitting in a very important committee, actually.
And I'm afraid you can't go into the Houses of Parliament, and
actually sit and listen. If instead you're paying for future
games, well, you don't really deserve to be there. What
disturbed me far more? Is that the idea that instead of kicking
him off the committee, they're trying to find the person who
told the rest of us how this guy is taking our money, taxpayers
money to sit there and play computer games. Exactly.
Yeah, sure. Wasn't a native ad for Candy Crush.
If it was a good one, yeah, got me.
Thursday, I've got to see my project Maelstrom working on
look at it that and it's always fun. Yeah, the rest of the media
will be into their lists at year end lists.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, they were the end of the year and now it's
gonna be all Christmas stuff,
right? And we will have original content content like we're the
only ones who do this we try actually will point out probably
a couple more native ads you're going to all be suckered into
because I was kinda almost suckered into that Toys R Us
thing and then in a soccer
saved yourself. If you're doing tweet today, right?
Yes, I am good. Now be fun. They can long drive.
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