Oh, your baby. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, December 11 2014. And time for your Gitmo nation
media assassination episode 677. This is no agenda. Anticipating
storm again here in FEMA Region six in the capital of the drone
Star State. Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,
and screw that from Northern Silicon Valley where we're
having the storm of the century. I'm John C. Dvorak.
It doesn't happen often, but you actually really clipped your own
mic there. I did. Yeah. I'm looking at my board gone. I
can't help this. Just a little start over No, no, no, I'll tell
you what, why don't we? John? John, this is Adam here in the
studio. What's it looking like? John? What are you learning? My
word. I don't know what to do. I'm holding on for dear life.
Store again. 2014.
What you guys have in store for we have all the servers on the
West Coast. No,
we're supposed to get the remnants of your store.
Don't want the remnants.
It's funny. I saw I swear to you, I saw a prediction last
week. That said we're going to have this warm snap all over the
country. I forgot to mention on the show, I put it in the show
notes. Three or four shows ago
when this thing that when that's hitting us, and I guess it hit
the Pacific Northwest, and that typically dribbles down to
Denver. This was like the world's World's Worst wind and
rainstorm. It was overnight. I mean, it ripped off a bunch of
pieces of the house. One piece of the house, I have to say
this, it would have been some as I look out the window here, a
piece of flashing from the roof is flapping around, capped off
and hanging Wow by a thread going back and forth and back
and forth. And if you know where that flashing looks like you can
imagine if it snaps off, which it should do eventually from
from mental fatigue. Yeah, it will snap off and then catch the
wind and go flying and probably go right through somebody's
window and impale somebody. No, no, no, no. And her head is
gone. That's what we'll have. Meanwhile, I was hanging here
and I'm looking at could have like gone right through this
window here. But it's such a long piece that's hanging that
actually has it comes to slam toward the window, it hits the
house and blocks it from going into the window. It's that and
then we had just a big mess, just generally speaking to bring
a lot of stuff inside and we're waiting for some trees to fall.
There's one tree up the hill that looks like it should go but
there's flooding. It's just a mess.
Now you have been in this location for many years. Yes.
Yes. Long time. And have you ever witnessed this good this
severity of storm?
I don't know that for such an extended period. We'd get a
windstorm that would last I don't know this is probably the
wind. And yeah.
When do you attribute this to climate change made by men? You
know, I can get attributed to the cycle that we have for
drought and we have elected Governor Brown he's talking
about the drought cycle we have drought for two years. We're all
gonna die because because of global warming, and now we got
nothing but rain. I mean, this is going to be 48 inches in the
hole. This'll fill up all the reservoirs like instantly, and
then it's going to you know, it's gonna go on for another
day. You could bet when part the worst part was last night you
could
back off another dog biscuit on your mic. I don't know what if
something changed, but you know, you're clipping clipping man.
Let me let me see what clipping bra. Don't be clipping man.
I'll give I'll give you one sit and listen to while you're at
that. Because they can really feel what it's like to sound
better. Well, yeah, just when you get excited.
I'm excited. I think I'm deaf because of the noise last night.
This is surprising. Of course, I'm in Texas. almost zero
coverage of this storm. I know because I follow space weather
and all kinds of different things as he was going. I am
interested in the weather. And of course, it's on the Weather
Channel. But nothing it's just no one's talking about this
outside. He's done to me.
What did I
do about it? He didn't know about it. Really? I didn't know
about your storm. No, this is your
storm. We don't have we have rains
or mono. This has been big news. Well, the sun is out here. Yeah.
Big news when it turns into a huge snow pile as it plows
through the country right we don't fill up the resorts right
from the storm we had a week ago. The ski resorts are all
full of snow right? Right. So they have to blow phony snow
anymore. And now this will just pack it so it'll be there'll be
snow and fill like last year they were lucky to get any snow
days and because of the whole thing. The schools are closed.
Yes, yes, I
saw snow day everywhere and people are lining up at the gas
stations. This is what we do in America. Go Go get ya
start. They went shopping yesterday and it was everything
was packed and I realized this because they're all getting you
know, get some some gas down for the big storm. Yeah, yeah.
How long is it supposed to last?
It's probably about a couple more days. Okay, well, that'd be
another one coming. I mean, we didn't look at the satellites
there's just gonna be a series of these, which again will soon
to be diverting water. Oh by and dead just as the storm hits they
jacked up the price of water because of the drought. Scam
Yes, money. But by the way, I want to get to the big story
right off because I think it's really important. And it's
something we got to talk about immediately because I think it's
the big news. The big the biggest of the biggest of the
biggest news stories to hit.
All right, this of course, now I'm looking at your clip list
and thinking I know what it's not. I'm trying. I'm trying to
guess and anticipate what is going to be
Yeah, yeah. Lebron James. Yeah. In a photo op, you don't have
you don't have a clip of that. The raw know the royal college
should have a clip but it's just the royal couple. Yes. Was took
in a game a basketball game for the first time in their life,
and in Brooklyn of all places. And just to see LeBron James,
and then they pose with a photo op, and he unknowingly put his
arm around her but his arm around her and now it's a
scandal.
Yes, wow. Okay. Sure. Big Sia. I'm so baffled. This whole I
still I cannot get over the older I get the less I can
really go along with this royalty thing. Is this to
people? And we have to have special like dignitaries. It did
not. I don't know it's I really just can't care.
No, you don't care if you're not a royalist if you are a royal
issued understand. Yeah,
I have, of course what is actually the big story of the
day and I have to congratulate you as you came very close to
predicting what this was all about. You. You had you had most
of it right. But here's the story. At least
16 Women have accused Bill Cosby of sexual assault, and in many
cases the stories are very similar. The women claimed the
comedian gave them pills that knock them unconscious. One
woman Dr. Charlotte laws claims her longtime friend had a long
running affair with Cosby in the early 80s and was still drugged
by him even though they were already in a consensual sexual
relationship. Laws. Thanks Cosby could be a psalm no philia
some no some no feel Yak.
Well, that sounds a lot better than necrophilia. Yeah, women
aren't dead and we don't know of him ever having sex with a dead
person. And technically, I guess that technically that would be
Yeah, that would be it. I never knew that was such a thing. But
I can Yeah,
apparently apparently there is such a such a condition. Assam
no celiac.
I believe it. Yeah. That was probably I would believe that's
what was going on here. Because like we said, there's no reason
for him to go out. You know, so far out of his way to get sex
when you're
well, you don't really have to get into it. I just thought it
was interesting that you had I don't want to get into I thought
you came. Let's not get into anything Cosby's been into.
That's not a good idea. Yeah, no, I nailed it. Yes, you did.
Pretty much. I'll give you I'll give you props for nailing it.
Well, you sent out a newsletter. And when I read your newsletter,
as I always do, and notice I didn't say good to go this time.
I said, looking good.
I know you're waiting to say good to go. You know, where
there's so many mistakes in that newsletters. I did it. Oh
really? Oh, God. Oh, I'm
sorry. Well, I wasn't feeling very well. Yesterday, I was on
the couch most of the day. I just
yeah, what I do before I send the newsletter as I mail it to
myself. And I edited I edit it while I'm putting it together.
And then I mail it to myself because reading it off the
screen as an email is almost like a new thing. So I can kind
of read it without with fresh eyes. And holy crap.
I'm so sorry. I and then I usually catch stuff, but I
didn't catch anything. Yeah. And then I think it was because the
content was very interesting to me. And this, although we really
never ever do any preparatory work together. And we have no
idea really what we're showing up with for each show and we'll
talk about this in our Christmas episode, which has been produced
for your enjoyment coming up on on Christmas. When sometimes
you'll send a newsletter out like this, and it's filled with
cheeses, a, um, this is what we're going to be doing. And you
know, this is it's, this is the topic and to me it's obvious
you've got this ready to go deconstruction wise and I, I'm
excited about what you're going to bring to us.
Well, I was a little overwhelmed. I go, I have my
little clip machine. And I'm getting my last clips yesterday
and I look at the number says 66, zero. Yes. And a lot of them
are long, because I have the whole
clip of abuse, man, you can't be doing that. I didn't like the
idea.
So I when I paired him down, I probably lost a lot of stuff I'd
like to have talked about I'm gonna put in later shows.
Because there's a lot of very interesting stories. I mean,
there were stories that I picked up listening to the
congressional hearings on the on the torture report. But what I
what I mentioned in a newsletter for people who decide not to
take the newsletter, which is free, because they think it's I
don't know why they don't like it. Whatever the case, it was so
apparent to me. And I was so disappointed. I was disappointed
in two things. One, the lack of response that we got for the
last show in terms of donations to this show. Yeah, very poor.
Just horrible. And I think a lot of people are drifting away
because I think the mainstream media is lower as much better.
But what we really got
to say that again, you think the mainstream media is lower
back in because that's why we get a lot of stuff kickback. Ah,
okay. You ever noticed this? So when did the things I noticed
was all of the all of with no was was actually two exceptions.
I have to go to the desk and grab my notes on the other desk.
Let's
go to the news desk. John. You go to the news desk. Go ahead.
I've
been willing to you What are you gonna do?
I'll tell you, you go to the news desk. I'll play a jingle.
You ready? 123 go.
I mean, what do you think Wolf Blitzer?
That's my new, my new one. It just that's the only question we
need to ask Wolf Blitzer. All right, I think Wolf Blitzer.
What do you think Wolf Blitzer?
Right. What I noticed was everybody except very few
people. And the two that I could I could positively identify that
weren't in the CIA's pocket or buddies with some of these old
CIA hacks. It was because of the number everybody was spewing a
pretty well defined list of talking points. Everybody, MSNBC
and Fox are on the same side. Yeah.
Which which kind of solidifies our theory or my theory that
they're run by the same people, namely Democrats. There's that
the before you move anything that I will just something that
will tickle you. Yesterday, the President came out with a
proclamation just to throw everything on top of it. Did you
know that yesterday? He proclaimed the week beginning
December 10 2014. Which doesn't make sense to me the week
doesn't start on a Wednesday.
Does it? No, it's very strange,
right? Presidential Proclamation. You gotta read
this. He says it's a Human Rights Day. And this starts
human rights week. On Wednesday, yeah. On the same on the same
day that this report comes out. Come on.
Well, there's something fishy about Obama's position in this
whole thing because he was according to everybody that's on
the committee was a roadblock.
And I want to tell our producers out there who are listening this
this of course is a very us get mo nation centric topic. Pay
attention this can happen in your part of the world if it
isn't already.
Yeah, I would agree with that. If it isn't already well,
anyway, so I'm watching all these shows and everybody is is
doing the same. They're they're talking from the same sheet it's
just so obvious. They all say the same things. They all do the
same I have the worst of course is Fox. Yeah, it goes they go
over the top with many people on Fox. Literally saying, tortures
good. I think these people deserve to be tortured. included
those poor 26 people that were in the group that had nothing to
do with anything and they were just tortured anyway, but they
went on I do have a fox. It's kind of long, but it's worth
listening to. This is a fox medley because I couldn't get
this part of the 65th I couldn't I just took little chunks from
every one of these millions of clips from Fox Fox medley
thirsty blood thirsty bastard.
Did you mix some house music to this man? I
if I had more time I would.
Okay, we ready? Yeah, hit it. Is it useful? Was
it effective to use torture? Well, to start with, I would
just
I did start off with the news hour. It's all the same. These
people were all in and this is they have a person and then they
have somebody spawning, usually a CIA guy
at the World Cup. I mean, there were a lot of guys who came out
who I hadn't seen either in a long time or ever. If they were
all out on the on the circuit, it was pretty fun to watch. Is
it useful? Was
it effective to use torture? Well, to start with I would
disagree with the term torture. But the enhanced interrogation
program that we utilize on a handful of top terrorist
absolutely beyond any doubt, produced vital intelligence to
help keep America safe. Give me an example of Osama bin Laden.
This makes no sense to me whatsoever. Meghan we were a
nation at war. look at why would we release it now? What what did
we have to gain? All of this has been debated, all of this has
been settled. We understood all of that,
that it will put Americans here and abroad at risk curious, and
tonight Fox News confirming that the FBI and homeland security
have sent a joint warning to law enforcement that the Senate
report could in fact, Spark violence. Megan, on the
allegation the CIA program was not effective. A former CIA
officer with first hand knowledge of the interrogations,
says nonliving architect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed one of three
detainees waterboarded by the CIA generated 2000 intelligence
reports. Tonight Americans at home and abroad are at greater
risk than they were 24 hours ago. Tonight Americans at home
and abroad are at greater risk than they were 24 hours ago.
Our next guest says the release of this report amounts to
nothing less than providing aid and comfort to the enemy in
wartime Fox News strategic analyst Lieutenant Colonel Ralph
Peters is with me, your reaction officer
discussed same here last and more discussed. And you know,
Shawn, the very people that are flagellating the CIA today for
doing what they approved it to do, are going to be the first
ones to cry intelligence failure when there's another attack. I
mean, it's a messy world.
I think the torture the I'm sorry, the enhanced
interrogation techniques. I think they serve their purpose.
I think they made us safer. ISIS is be heavy Americans. What
What's worse, that, or Collete, Sheikh Mohammed getting some
water splashed on his face or someone else getting slapped? Or
hearing loud music or kept awake?
Music in three days, all laws. Everything they did put together
in reports, there was no criminal prosecution from this.
Do you understand that? And yours and saying, you know, we
don't like what you did? Well, why didn't you any of the
senators who are on this intelligence committee and were
privy to this information? Why didn't you object then? And why
are you doing it now?
It goes on and on and on with the same memes in the same they
have, and it's on all the channels, but let's
just state for a fact. What has come out of this. There is
really it gives me no more pleasure than to hear the words
rectal feeding and rectal hydration. I really, really
think that is the funniest thing.
Did you get that they actually had the recipe that went into
the rectal feeding and you see that
I mean, how can you ground salad, the meal which they call
sloshing up this report this just it was so funny to me that
the water tour and you know, water torture has been applied
for centuries probably. But yet we have in our politically
correct world. And I think was actually rectal rehydration
which makes it even funnier than rectal hydration. It. Okay, so I
have had a back and forth with Uncle Don. And I have been
upgraded in uncle Don's world.
Okay, yes, i By the way, I did have questions that we I should
have given to you to ask Uncle Don, which is what does he
think? Well, I have Oh, yeah. Of Hayden and Rodriguez. Well,
as the first one gave you his the first thing he said is new
subject being referred to as Uncle Don reminds me of a
children's radio program of my early youth by that name. I'm
very, I'm very proud to be your uncle. But let's just drop the
uncle bit. Now I call this an upgrade. I think he's he's
taking me serious now. It's too late. So I did not ask him
specifically, but you want to hear what he what his general
thoughts? Yeah, of course. So for those of you who are new to
the program, look up Donald Gregg. And you'll see why he
speaks of some authority. And it is my belief that he is such a
good guy these days. Certainly, that he that's why he's not
asked on any mainstream programming, mainstream media
programming, because he actually speaks the truth. Certainly when
it comes to North Korea, so he says the central question in
this case, funny how he used a lot of these memes were always
catching that is not being dealt with that question is Why was
the CIA told to do what was told to do and who told them that
brings into focus people like the miserable Attorney General
Alberto Gonzalez. The lawyers like John you who fell over
themselves legitimizing enhanced interrogation, giving legal
legal cover to what CIA did. And by the way, whenever you guys
really the CIA, they never say the CIA. You notice that?
Now you notice it now?
Yeah. So he says giving legal cover to what CIA did. The
central bank Ukraine? Yes. The central and most painful part of
this is that bush 43. And Cheney, having failed to prevent
911 in the first place, lost faith in our ability to deal
traditionally with the crisis they had largely caused
themselves. That's the real rub of the issue. I think Obama
wants to avoid that central point. But I think it's going to
be hard for him to do. What do you think? He says?
Well, he didn't throw in all the classic memes that they're
using, which is we're now more danger than we were before our
lives are at risk because of this report.
Because I don't think I think he he probably thinks that's
bullcrap. That's not important. Sure. He
does. Most people that know anything, think it's bullcrap.
But they're pushing it like there's no tomorrow. And what's
funny is that there's a number of countries self contradictions
in the in all of their own debates. I don't think I
honestly don't believe it was a top PR guys at the it's at CIA,
that that put the put the talking points together. I think
it was a public relations group put together by Hayden. Yeah, go
hos definitely Hayden and Tennant. Do you want to read the
three of them wrote that, that let the op ed in the New York
Times, which, if you read that op ed, the talking points are
all in there. And the main one they keep pushing is it did
help. It did work. It did help it did work. And they just keep
saying it over and over. And, and so all the Stooges that came
in from, which is most of the people in the mainstream media,
with the exception of two people I can identify there may be
more, and I never heard what Rachel had to say. So I don't
know about her. I didn't slip. But I'll tell you the other
lesbian Hayes, Christopher Hayes. That guy,
why do you resort to name calling this discredit the
entire program?
From the back correspondents dinner? He would I give him full
credit. He was not talking points. Oh, really? At all. And
I'm sure they're calling him Wow. To get him on board because
he was brutal. And he had the best guy on he had Colonel
Wilkerson. i Okay. Let's move right to get to it. Let's go to
Colonel Wilkins. Colonel Wilkerson is was Colin Powell is
Chief of Staff. Right during this whole thing. And Wilkerson
comes on as a guest and he's not the normal Richard Engel coming
on to to apologize and say, Well, you know, we it's
unknowable. He used the unknowable meme and all the rest
of they're all everybody on all these channels with these. Let
me just do one little quickie. Before that. There was one guy
who I had to rush to get the this is actually kind of funny.
He took over one of the shows this guy Arey Melber, a ri
Melber. Airy Melber was never obviously read in or paid off or
bought off. And he was a fly in in s NBCs ointment because he
was a substitute. And they didn't know I guess nobody knew
that he wasn't
Oh, yeah. Oh, no. I saw this guy. Ari Ari, isn't it? Yeah.
Hari Raya the nice. The nice looking Jewish boy. I've seen I
saw this. Yeah, okay, good.
Okay, here he is jumping in on something that he shouldn't have
said anybody jumps in. And this is this clip is the one guy the
one guy on MSNBC question going forward is what is the role of
the CIA?
Sorry, I keep playing the right one.
The one guy and then the one guy on MSNBC. Well, there's
no actual clip called one guy. There's one Trump's Oh, okay.
You got to help me out with that man. All right, here we go.
Sometimes, in a time of war, you have to go out and do things
that you wouldn't normally think were appropriate or right. But
if we're
going to protect, the more you do war crimes, and that's what
we're talking, we're talking about war crimes under the
Geneva Convention.
They believe that they were justified because of the
circumstances at the time. That is the argument they're making.
And I think that's that's where this really is breaking down.
Now. I think I do think most Republicans, at least publicly
wasn't enough.
There was a roundtable discussion and our thing was RV
show and Touray was on the music course
it was all detours all in with the memes
and but he was you could they had the one of the go into
commercial break and they have one of those shots where you see
the whole group and he's rolling his eyes. Already we already
didn't read his memo.
Yeah, already apparently didn't read his memo. Because he was he
was adamant about the report. He He read more than they did. They
were talking points given
you know what's next for Irie podcasting?
Probably poor bastard. He's out. Oh, so anyway we have Chris
Hayes who obviously never He was never it because it was funny to
watch the show before he isn't there all while you know, it was
a time at the changing times and it was a 911 era and we had to
do what we had to do and and if it wasn't for this, we wouldn't
have caught Bin Laden, which by the way was 10 years after.
Yeah. And it was also four years three, three or four years after
they stopped doing this interrogators and then they
can't catch bin Laden and now Yeah, sure. So the bin Laden
thing is bullcrap. But let's listen to Wilkerson, who comes
on to discuss this with Chris Hayes joins me
now retired US Army Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson. He was Chief
of Staff for Secretary of State Colin Powell, in 2000 to 2005.
Your reaction to the reaction today, do you feel as if we've
made progress as a nation in reckoning with this period?
Where are we back where we were 10 years ago?
I think the latter, Chris, because I don't think even
though this might bring a modicum of accountability to
some of the people at the top, some of the people you've named,
I don't think anything really will be done. So whatever
punitive a factor is to it will be whitewashed will might not be
accomplished. And it's for lying. Let me tell you, I've
been watching it all day, Chris. I've been watching people like
Phil Mudd. And John McLaughlin, whom I spent so much time with,
I grew sick of them, getting Powell ready for his
presentation at the United Nations Phil Mudd. I remember
him coming into the Waldorf Astoria Hotel Room, where at 2am
in the morning of that morning, five February, I was taking
things out of pals presentation that connected al Qaeda with
Baghdad. And Phil was frantic, trying to get it stuck back in
and even went and woke George Tenet up in his hotel and tried
to get George Tenet to make me stop doing it. And then to hear
Phil Mudd come on TV and talk about so calmly how competent
and how wonderful this program was and how I worked and so
forth. It almost made me sick to listen to that going on these
people lied in my presence. They lied to Condi Rice, they lied to
Steve Hadley kondisi deputy at the time they lied to rich
Armitage pals deputy they lied to me. People like George Tenet,
John McLachlan they lied about the mobile biological labs, they
lied about connections with al Qaeda. So for them to sit there
and say that they didn't lie to the Senate Select Committee or
to the House Committee. It's absolutely absurd.
Yeah, he's this is the only guy on any of the shows that I've
seen that was there and not working for the agency or or
Cheney and by the way, Wilkerson blames the whole thesis Cheney
was the only one at the at the top that knew anything. But
let's go to his he does have a thing, positive thing to say
about the CIA, because there is a meme going on all this is a
beating up flagellating the CIA, but but he has a kind of a
different take on it, which I believe is a little more
logical. And this is the Wilkerson to
recommendation job recommendation. Let's I want us
both to try saying CIA instead of the CIA.
Yeah, no, I know. Yeah. No.
Wow. You went right down the trap. You went from the CIA to
Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I'm just shut up. Yes, shut up.
Believe the CIA when the CIA says this is one sided. This is
bunk. Don't Don't listen to this.
This is another disservice to the agency. Chris, there are a
lot of good people at the agency, there are just as many
people I would submit, if you could do a survey, there would
be more people who are anxious to see the agency's name. And
these people who've done these sorts of things cleared out
anxious to see some sort of accountability, anxious to get
their hands clean, to get the agency's hands cleaned, and to
get on with business to do the things that the CIA should do in
the way that they should do them in conformance with the law when
and if possible. This is not an agency that is out there. You
know, cowering in the dark, wondering as McLaughlin
intended, and others have said, if it has a future, this is a
group of people who would like to do their duty to their
country and to their mission. And they'd like to get this
stuff off their hands.
Now, I agree with that. Totally agree. Yeah. Which is what Don
wants. He says, Let's rip the band aid off, get to get the
Panetta report out, which is the CIA's version of this. Get that
out, redact what you have to but minimal and do it and just get
over it and move on?
I don't have a clip of this, but the redactions of the Feinstein
report are apparently ludicrous. According to Jay Rockefeller. He
says that they Are they says that he saw that we're
unredacted versus the stuff that was taken out, including fake
names. They were protecting names. So they actually put fake
names in the report to protect names. And they redacted those.
Well, yeah. And abundant. There's a lot of dumb stuff that
we have less than 600 pages from 6000. So I call that a 90%
redaction right there.
Right. Well, that one of the senators believes that the whole
report will eventually be released. Of course.
25 years it gets declassified. Eventually it will be Yeah.
So Wilkerson, part three, I thought was the best of the
clips
internal CIA email from July 12 2003. noted, the White House
is extremely concerned, Secretary Powell would blow his
stack if he would be briefed on what's been going on. You're
working for Secretary Powell that time your reaction to that.
I'm sure that's probably the case. I got to see him. That
worked for him over 12 years. And I got to see him blow his
stack worse than he'd ever blown it before, at the CIA, with
George Tenet and John McLaughlin, because he says to
what was being done to them, he took me into a room and told me
to cut about 25% of the presentation he was supposed to
give out, told me to take it out because it was worthless. He was
even worried that it wasn't accurate. And then within a few
minutes, George Tenet showed up with the spellbinding news that
a high level al Qaeda operative had revealed under interrogation
he said no revealing that he was being tortured at the time that
he had revealed significant contacts between Al Qaeda and
Saddam Hussein's operatives in Baghdad, this was a flat out
lie. We later learned it was Sheikh Al Libbi, that he was
being tortured, no USA personnel were even present. And that
within a week to 10 days, he recounted what he'd given under
torture. So this is the kind of thing that was happening when I
was out at the CIA for five days and nights with these people who
are now trying to tell the American people that they were
competent, and they were telling the truth.
Yeah, this summarizes things.
I have a couple of things to add to this as you move along. Just
wanted to get the this is Hayden, who by the way, has
developed a tic? Yes, I
know. It's just somebody mentioned that I noticed this
tech stack
stack mentioned it and I and I went looking at Oh, man, oh,
he's got a, he's got a twitch in his eye
and blinking eye blink, blink, blink one eye blink. And
this is this is stress. It is stress. I'm an expert on tics.
This is stress. And he's saying a lot of look, I think this is
his central, the central argument. And I have something
to say about this precisely.
This isn't a response here about defending torture. I'm here
talking to you about defending history. What we really could
have used is a really non political look at the CIA
program. The one that was the one that was launched, when this
report first got underway, this report was supposed to have
conducted interviews, hearings, and give recommendations. It
doesn't have any of those. I was in government for 10 years after
911. And let me tell you a phrase I never heard from
anybody in any position of authority. Whatever you guys do
about this terrorism threat, please, please don't overreact.
Never heard of Brian.
And this is so what well, but this is really what it comes
down to my view on this is that in general, the general
consensus of the American citizen is we don't care. Oh, I
agree. We don't care. We don't care if you have to shove
broomsticks up people's asses if you're going to rectally
rehydrate them. We don't care. We don't care. And we've been
trained as Big Bad motherfuckers to go out and kill everybody.
Drone, everybody. We don't care. We're a blood thirsty. And we've
been trained that way. We're militaristic, we're trained to
kill. And in general, we don't care. And people were like, Oh,
well, the Democrat bullshit. Everybody here is trained to
kill.
No, I don't think I actually the only one. There's one person
that brought it up and then the guy backed off some guy wrote a
book is semi critical on hardball. Chris Matthews has
gotten a hard ball and he uses the end. Matthews is the only
guy because I've been waiting for somebody to say if it's
sadism, because that's what I always believed this was a
really all about. He had a bunch of sadists with an opportunity.
I mean, you see guys like Rodriguez, I mean, he looks like
a guy you don't really want to ever meet or know.
And I tell us he wrote Rodriguez. Rodriguez was
the head of covert operations under Hayden. And he was one of
the guys that was running the torture program. And he is
usually doing a duo a double bit with hate and floating around
defending everything they did for out of fear. Or there's two
fears one which is I think unwarranted, which is the United
States will will I filed charges against them because they Hayden
in particular lied and lied and lied and lied and when he
brought what the clip you had yeah the original he's right the
original investigation was going to be a bunch of interviews and
some other things but it turned out they were the people that
were going to be interviewed were lying constantly. They were
intimidating the staff they were spying
on them Yeah, they were spying on spying they were spying
him but they were also intimidating there were there
were threats there were death threats subtle death threats
there came in into the office it's what we do well then then
Feinstein who was doesn't give a crap about this because she
knows is bogus. She said we're not this is not going to work
this way. What we're going to do is get every document we can out
of their office and they took 6 million documents and read every
email they could and and what and there's no reason if
somebody in the email says well we killed this guy by accident
here at this this this black site and then they put all the
details in there for some unknown reason they do this and
the but they did what's the what are you going to ask the guy
he's just put it on the email he's got all the information
that you don't need to to talk to him after the fact one of the
memes and all this is all they never interviewed anybody. They
never interviewed the people who were tortured. They gonna say
and they never interviewed the torturers. Okay, well, you
didn't but you have 6 million documents to extract this
information from you don't really need to interview
anybody. It's kind of like historical
and here's the thing this is this what this really does is it
destroys and chops down the American exceptionalism because
we're no better than the Japanese you know what they've
done we know better than the Chinese we know better than the
German Nazis we know better and we're just people and we have
all of our crazy crap like every but everybody else but we have
this nice veneer we put over it and we expect this to end like
all of our movies do no boy gets girl a happier happily ever
after. And it's just even Dawn is not seeing that preaches suck
like everybody else we just have we have cooler uniforms we have
we should
suck less
yeah that's the idea but we don't it's not we're
not going to we're never will if we if we have all these blood
thirsty a holes that are on Fox. And even obviously, apparently
on MSNBC. I have some guys are just pushing, pushing, pushing.
And you know, we got a thing about this at the end. But let
me play a couple more things here that are kind of
interesting. Sure. Sure. Al Sharpton is all in on this. By
the way, you know, even though Sharpton had to kind of tone his
down a little bit, but Richard angle seems to be the point guy
for the CIA. Who will again, we Richard II. We've talked him on
the show before we've had clips from him on the show before he
is the foreign correspondent for NBC. Yes, he's the guys always
in one time era. He was doing a report from Paris and he was
busted for doing it were Theiss. He said one thing and it was
someplace else now he's a
phony, phony, phony, phony, phony. And he
is he was on all the shows on MSNBC. He was on the the first
show where he got into a beef with this with the with IRA or
whatever is a Ari, Ari, he got into a beef with Ari on an Early
Show. Then the Tory the roundabout show came on. And
then Ari was on that show too. And he got to do another beef
with angle and angles kept saying the exact same things in
every show. He varied it a little bit. Then he shows up on
Sharpton and I assume he showed up on everybody show except
Hayes's Chris Hayes's show he didn't show up, right, because
he had some other guy who, who was obviously a CIA guy, but he
didn't do one a battle with Hayes because it was obviously
Hayes was on the warpath, and he wasn't it then he just kind of
backed off. And so nothing came with that. But the here's the
angle and Sharpton is the kind of report you'd have with these
guys in his kind of answer you get from a stupid question. The
question is a mean question. Right from the talking points.
Joining me now is NBC News Chief foreign correspondent Richard
Engel thank you for being here. Richard. My pleasure. How are
you? Good. Did the CIA go rogue all was there more to it? Well,
I think in one element, I think the country went rogue
there's no real conflict. The country went rogue rogue. The
content that's what I'm saying. I agree. The country went rogue.
He didn't he did it just to kind of push people off of the
questioning. Yeah, that wasn't the best I'm sure that was not
the best talking point.
You don't you don't you're not watching CNN Do you mind if I
play a little CNN intermezzo here. Play this is this the
report just coming out Brooke. Brooke, CNN.
Your baby
books Brooke the Dave who they airbrush her so well in the with
within with the the makeup spray paint. Oh yeah. believable. And
she has a Christiane Amanpour on and two memes here. One. Putin
wouldn't dare put out a report about his torture. Right? And
then the other one is a familiar one that we've that we've seen
recently in which I believe,
how do they get Putin into this now that she's good.
She's good. She gets Brooke, my girl, Brooke on CNN, and
unimportant brings in something that has been lingering around.
And we recently discussed one of the cases and what we think this
is really all about in international new world order
terms. Finally, this
trend transparency in this report, and this is something
that say, Vladimir Putin would never ever do that a
possibility. Well, precisely. I mean, that's, I can't think of
another government that has a would do this kind of thing,
whether Western democracies over here, or obviously,
dictatorships and authoritarian regimes just wouldn't be doing
this. And I think obviously, philosophically, morally,
ethically, that is a strength of the United States to confront
this massive wrongdoing, to put it out in public, and to try to
move forward in a way that corrects that and make sure that
doesn't happen. You know, when you think about it, this all
goes back to the days after 911, when Secretary of Defense Donald
Rumsfeld cast out the Geneva Conventions and said, I don't
give a uto What about the Geneva Conventions, these people are
terrorists, and we're gonna get them any which way. And to that
point, though, what's happened, as your previous guests, Karen
Greenberg said, while this may or may not be strictly illegal
in the United States, and you know, all the tortured legality
that has tried to justify this, it is most definitely a crime
under international law. And so my guest, former colonel of the
Air Force, former prosecutor at, at one terrible day said he
would advise any Americans named in this investigation, or at all
tainted by all of this to vacation domestically. I mean,
that is, you know, a real worry that they, you know, be had up
under international law. For this kind of activity,
were two things we learned here is that she may not be
compromised, like 90% of the other people, as by what she
said, because there's no talking point. So I think she's mi six,
six if and yeah, no, I would, I would agree she may be British,
and she's not going to be going for then he was not gonna be
reading somebody else's talking points. The thing about that
what she said, though, I agree. 100%. And that, that I believe
is why Hayden has those ticks?
Yeah, cuz she doesn't want to get arrested. Yeah, he
knows. I mean, you it's almost like being a prisoner in the
country. Because it's exactly what it is. I mean, Cheney's
worried about going overseas, Bush doesn't appear to care,
because he never traveled any way of staying home, stays in
his ranch. He doesn't care. But wouldn't bother him in the least
of us. And you indicted in Germany for something
I find it interesting just to see the we had this case with
the president of Kenya, and we know the International Criminal
Court, although they really don't care to really prosecute
anyone, and they've really never prosecuted anyone fully. And as
far as I know, the no case has actually won been won. Anything.
I thought Milosevic was one.
A he I think he just he died prematurely. Didn't he die
before they finished? Oh, that's
a possibility. That's one way of getting taken care of it. I kill
him.
I thought he died. Yeah.
Look, I'm looking at what you're talking about.
Let me see. Of course, we had a couple of couple of questions
for Josh Earnest in the which I like to watch in the press
briefings.
This he died, he died. I told you 2006 He died before
they could fully Ignite. And he represented himself and the
whole thing was a farce. So yeah, here is Major Garrett.
What's made major is ABC. NBC Major
Garrett is the I believe he is ABC best best disc jockey
name ever. Yeah, man, you got traffic and weather. Have you
ever bought a major garden? Martin? Asked me, of course,
about the political timing of this report. Gosh, over the
weekend, Senate
Democrats spent a good deal of time talking among themselves
about whether this was the right time to release that report. And
there are many who believe this is not the right time, but it's
a very, very close call that there are a number of objective
reasons why it's, as you've just hinted a moment ago, never a
good time to release this report. From the White House's
perspective, what is the deciding factor that makes this
the right time other than the political calendar which
suggests if Senate Republicans are in charge Intelligence
Committee, this report will never see the light of day.
The fact is major the right time will be determined by members of
the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that is as it
should be, it's their report, and they should make the
decision about the appropriate time well, for at least, the
President is chiefly responsible
for articulating and bending the security this country its
emphases and its personnel. He has to have an opinion on this.
It can't be a simple casual bystander leaving it to the
committee to decide entirely on its own, without any guidance
was the best time? Well,
again, we have been, I don't want to get the impression that
there hasn't been any guidance right there. There has been
communication between the administration and the
committee. Again, that's something that they have to
decide that the members of the committee have to decide for
themselves, it is their report. And as you've reminded me on a
number of occasions, despite the President's priority that he
places on the safety and security of United States of
America, the legislative branch is
on board with him. There is of course, something else that was
going on during all of this, which was kind of pushed to the
background, which I will get to when you when you wrap all this
up. But obviously there was a $1.1 trillion spending bill with
all kinds of
little gotchas. So can I wrap in that thing? Yes. And of course,
campaign finance reform, what does that got to do with
anything?
Federal land changes, I mean, there's a lot of things
happening. And, and to me, it felt this was a major reason for
the timing is to get this done and have and not just get the
spending bill done, but have the ability for all kinds of groovy
little things to be put in there. I mean, really, really
groovy stuff. I mean, we're going to invade Burma Just Say
No stuff that's in there is nuts.
Yeah, well, that's it was probably one of the many reasons
I think it was it was covering up a lot of stuff. I have
another one that's kind of different. Here in meanwhile,
even the Senate has a number of great speeches. The John
McCain's was outstanding.
I thought it was I agree. That was a Um, no. John McCain fan.
I know. The show is not a John.
John also loved me. He said the speech of his career and Don
does not like John McCain. Right?
A lot of people don't, but everyone liked it. Who really
likes John McCain?
Raise your hand without talking. Lindsey
Graham comes up after John McCain essentially condemns
McCain speeches,
these guys are playing
dead grandma is going to be in the doghouse with McCain for a
while. And then of course, my favorite one that came up I
actually like Jay Rockefeller is the best. Rockefeller had a
great one here, I'll put a bring it into the next show, because
he had an anecdote, a couple of anecdotes that were really good.
And, and Patrick Leahy had a bunch of interesting anecdotes
that I thought were funny. In fact, it was going to skip to
this one because this is this. He's talking about how he
realized that there's the lying that was going on in front of
this committee and in front of Congress, and it was getting on
their nerves, which is one of the reasons they wanted to
release les he is Democrat. Yes, Lee, he's a Democrat. And I
don't think this was that motive politically motivated, even
though everyone likes to think that, but this is my, my Les, he
who's hard to understand nowadays, and there's a long
clip, but it's well worth it. Because this is, this is right
out of the house of cards. This is a story that if you can use
like, again, late he's lost his voice. But this is the story
about how Washington really works. And this is Leahy's story
about the joggers
that very similar to what we had leading up to the border rack
after 911. I remember being in those hearings. Mr. President. I
remember listening to the Vice President. I remember listening
to others in the secret hearings, and thinking it
doesn't ring true. And I stated that I thought some of the
things you were telling us didn't ring true. And I remember
walking early one morning with my wife near our home, and two
joggers coming up calling us by name people would never seen in
the neighborhood. Hey, asshole. One of them said I hear you have
some questions. Have you asked to see report and names of
particular report? I said I hadn't. I didn't know there was
such a tape. So you might find it interesting to read. I did
that I raised even more questions about what I'd read.
They're totally contradicted. But the vice president others
who say and I mentioned that to some. Two days later, we're out
walking again. Both joggers. My wife remembers this so well. A
bad 10. They say I see you read reports as I say I did. But did
they tell you about this other report? I said I didn't know
there was such one. You may find it interesting. And I got it was
obvious from that that there was holding evidence Saddam Hussein
had nothing to do with 911 Contrary to what the Vice
President others say, there were no weapons of mass destruction,
that this is not proved to be a harmful nation to us. In fact,
they're actually well pendant by the no fly zone we set up. But
we rush to war because we'll show them. They did not love it
either. I had nothing to do. I love it. Now almost $3 trillion
later. Look at the mess where
you know, the thing that saddens me about all this is we are
doing exactly the same right now. We are we are being lied to
about just one small example ISIS ISIL is who are going to
put get in there flying toyoda's and come over here and kill us
all. There, we've been lied to with fake. I see no difference
between these fake truly fake beheading videos. beheadings
happen, these videos are fake, they certainly don't show an
actual beheading. It's no different from Colin Powell
holding up a vial of anthrax or, you know, yellow cake or any of
this stuff. And so it is happening. We are being
distracted from lies taking place that yet again. And to me,
if I think I hold the American public, I think if we actually
said hey, you know what, this mofo, Saddam Hussein, he wants
to ruin us by not using our petro dollar to trade in his
oil. He wants to use the euro. We got to take him out. I think
then the American people will be like, Yeah, and we and it would
be truth. And we'd be done with it. And maybe Saddam Hussein
would have said, crap, man, we shouldn't do this. Why we think
we have to lie to everybody. We've evolved a little bit, you
know. That's my feeling.
I think your feeling stems from Hope and Change. Something that
doesn't really exist. Yeah, the general public at large as you
as you can see how easily people are fooled when you go to the
store he's listened to to have some people having a
conversation non no agenda listeners, let's say yeah. And
they're, and they're just spewing the same memes that
we're talking about here, back and forth, and back and forth.
And ball. Yeah, it worked. It got we caught Bin Laden, because
of the torture, when there's actually zero evidence of that
it was 10 years later, and for three or four years after the
torture ended. It's like the end. And by the way, the
Feinstein report, which was one I'm gonna call it had gone
extensively into the bull crap, that we caught Bin Laden based
on torture, when in fact, there's no zero evidence of it.
And but yet, if you go and listen to these shows, it keeps
coming up again, and again, and again, Hayden still says it,
they all keep saying it. And so and they're saying it a lot more
than Feinstein, because who listens to the who's going to
read that report or the summary, or listen to that one guy, and
Chris Hayes's show that you did likelihood of catching that
zero. I mean, that's not a very popular show. And you meanwhile,
you listen to hate and I got a funny clip on Hayden online. You
want to just drop that in.
Okay, hold on a second. I was just rereading Don's op ed about
torture. I remember I sent that to you, like two months ago.
Yeah. Some interesting historic perspective in that I'll put it
in, in the show notes.
What do I have here? Michael Hayden on lying.
Okay, sorry. I'm gonna introduce Hayden.
So when Dianne Feinstein today says you lied, is she lying?
I'll go so far as to say she's incorrect. I mean, lying. Lying
is intentionally intentionally misleading someone. All right.
Let me make another distinction. telling people something they
don't want to hear is not the same thing as telling people
something that is untrue.
I did not have sexual relations with that. Why did he say oh,
no, what he said, these guys are all caught with their pants
down.
Well, they're they they're doing I think a grip. Personally, I
think they're doing it because they call out to troops. Every
time. I've said in the newsletter, we have had this
rare opportunity to spot the spooks while they're
wearing revolving lights on their heads. Now that's like
spook spook, spook spook, as
you can tell the ones who are the spooks, and it's so easy to
get this. They say the same things they they support. They
don't they didn't want to report that one of the things I said
before is that the stupidity of this they all say that one of
the memes is oh, well, none of this information is new. We
already knew this. We knew it. We knew it. We knew it. So why
and then they'll say that one One breath and then a few
breaths later say releasing this report is going to cost
Americans lives. It's going to make no way. I mean, if everyone
already knew this, it was public domain. By argument, what
difference does it make? What is the rate to paraphrase Hillary?
What difference does it make if you release this report, because
it's already known? How's it going to endanger anybody? And
by the way, the idea of in danger of this report,
endangering you, and me and everybody in the United States
and even people overseas is nonsense. Nobody's endangered.
who's reading this stuff that only people that listen to our
news media that this is all a huge smokescreen, the people
that are putting it out there are not to be trusted, ever.
Mickey. Mickey always does my kind of my fieldwork. And she
came home yesterday. And she's been out and about and she'd
been listening to NPR and you know, she she's very good at
getting a feel. She says, this country doesn't care. No, the
Americans don't care if we tortured or not. And I think
that is that's this is. This is just the overlooked
fact. Yeah,
we really, really don't care. What am I getting for Christmas,
mommy, this is the these are the important things. When people
just they do not care. This is all positioning.
Oh, it's the preventives international indictments. Yes,
that's part of the cover stuff.
So they can go on vacation. These a bunch of guys who want
to go on vacation to Wyoming when they're I want to go on
vacation. This is the dope place. This is really what it's
all about. To get out of here. Things I want to bring up one.
Poland, What a travesty that Poland who immediately says
yeah, we had we had black sides. give these people the
opportunity to be in the Visa Waiver Program. Will you already
come on?
You're right that is that's bull crap, man. He's amazing bull
crap.
What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? These people are
our friends. They're NATO members, let them come in and
visit when they feel like it. If you look at the the spending
bill, the defense part, which is more than half of it, Poland's
all kinds of stuff. But if we're going to help Poland buy more of
our war material, more polish stuff, come on, put these people
in already, and then the which I haven't hasn't really been
brought up. Although Don mentioned this, and I corrected
him, but he hasn't responded to that. I'm sure there's a reason.
He says you know, he's he's flabbergasted and disappointed
that nobody in CIA had blown the whistle on these practices. And
I said, well, in fact, the only guy so far as I know who did say
something about it to the press, John Kiriakou is in jail for it.
And he's a former case officer, an analyst, right and he leaked
this information about the about torture to the press. And they
threw him in jail. I haven't heard anyone talk about him.
I haven't heard anything about that. But it should be mentioned
probably in the report. I'm guessing because I haven't seen
his name in the report. No, no in that 500 You haven't read the
500 page report I've read Yeah, I read the report that they
released. You read all 500 pages course went in two days? Yes.
I haven't slept Look at me. I'm a mess.
Well, the talking points they extracted from that report are
the ones that that's all you're going to hear about because the
only chance that he was going to mention that guy would be Chris
Hayes. And he was too busy excoriating everybody
essentially on his show and then now of course it's mostly been
dropped the whole topic is dropped right so now we can play
another couple clips and then I get freaking wrapped a lot a lot
of
things may change by the time people hear the show we have a
Brennan is is going to do a news conference
well I'm sure it's gonna be the same talking points in America
there was it was it was careless to release the report because
Americans lives are at risk we know that we did the said the
other one another class it was we know Yeah, we know we did
this but that was so long ago that was the bush Cheney regime
were different. Long ago we stopped doing different now.
Come on, we've learned
and there's a you know, anytime you hear any of that, it's like
bull crap.
What do you guys talking about?
I like the way Tori that I have a Tory clip Touray Touray
whatever you call him obviously compromised, twisting the
arguments so that you tell he's not compromised. He's just dumb.
is injured. He's compromised. You take the art you taken twist
or you give somebody a this is a question is Some mean late in
talking point question, you throw it to somebody and then
they they take it and they they turn it to something else as the
oh, you know, you asked me a question I say, well, that's not
the question you should be central point is, yeah, any
there's a million ways of doing this. This one's a little
different. And I thought it was interesting. So Tori twisting
deed, everyone on Capitol Hill is queasy about this entire
issue. For many reasons. This is all about the CIA and what the
CIA did, but they are not alone in this leaders in Congress, and
both houses were briefed 17 times from 2002 to 2005. They
knew and this report talks about the CIA lying or not concealing
evidence to Congress, but surely, a lot of folks on the
Hill knew what was going on. Should they also be held
responsible here?
I think so. Yes. I mean, looking at the members, a lot of the
members will say, Well, look, we were sworn to secrecy weren't
allowed to say something. The problem with that argument is
that in fact, they do have a mechanism to say something if
they believe that what was that they were being told was
egregious enough, they could have just gone to the House or
Senate floor and talked about it. They are given immunity from
prosecution if they're on the Senate or House floor.
Well, now, if you are a senator, and you heard something that you
don't like in the in the thing, and you decide to blow the
whistle on it by going to the House or Senate floor, because
you're immune, you're not on that committee anymore, you're
off, you're out kicked out of the committee, and you're
probably blacklisted from a lot of stuff. Because you can't keep
your mouth shut in committee. You're supposed to keep your
mouth shut. So that's bull crap. I get kneecapped. That's a
complete bull crap, not thing. But the thing, the meme that was
in there, and I've heard it a number of times is this is the
bull crap that they were they all knew, when Wilkerson makes
it very clear that they didn't know they were lied to.
Constantly lied to. So they didn't know. So that oh, they
were brief. They knew they were brief. They knew no, they didn't
know. And it's obvious they didn't know. And that's one of
the reasons that Feinstein got so upset, because she was being
lied to. And she didn't expect being spied on. She thought that
Oh, everybody's telling me the truth. She was a stooge for the
agencies all the time. And during our show within
Lionsgate, two or three years ago, she was a stooge, just like
that. The Rogers character. And by the way, the new guy taking
over Feinstein spot is worse than Roger Federer. Yeah, he's
worse than Rogers.
Yeah, we looked him up. The guy is all in total Military
Industrial Complex. He's got a ship on his homepage. Like ship
and we know this going to be built all the ships, we got all
the money's all here. It's really good.
Here's the other one. This is the one where I'm sorry, this is
this clip is the switcheroo. And the subtle threatened by the
way, I believe when Touray said that about he that was a threat.
Oh, yes, these guys knew. And if they they should be in jail,
too. That was a threat. Threat of the senators. Interesting.
Yeah. So the total threat. And this one, here's a little more
subtle threat
messages and cables back saying not only is it's not working,
it's disgusting and said some CIA officials moved to tears
watching the process from their own accounts as their language.
It's not Dianne Feinstein's language. I got to think it
takes a lot to move a CIA operative to tears.
Well, it does. And like I said, You're responsible for carrying
out orders and instructions unless they're immoral or
illegal. And I think at a higher level, also, if they're stupid,
I mean, if your ranking guide the chain of command, but that
still doesn't dismiss, it still doesn't reduce the stupidity of
releasing the report in the first place. I think it's, I
think it's a political move. And if you like I said, you run the
tape forward five years, are the people who were involved in
producing this report? Are they then at risk? The people who are
responsible for doing other things, which future
administration you might find distasteful? Are they now at
rest? Yeah, that's extremely, it's an extremely dangerous
thing to do.
And we're about out of time, I understand the concern. We're
gonna hear from you again, and it goes to the question we asked
earlier in the show, how do you say we're never going to do this
again, if you don't have any transparency or accountability,
but too much transparency, as we know can be a risk for folks who
are out there. Colonel Jack Jacobs, thanks for your time.
The only thing the one thing that I haven't I'm sorry, go
ahead. Well, I was gonna
say that what he's talking about and it was brought up on Hannity
was Rodriguez and some other people the threat is, well, if
you're going to do that to us, then we're going to do it to you
with the drones that you all approved. Right. Everybody
approved of the drone program. That's and Feinstein is one of
them. That's part
of it. The angle we haven't really discussed with this. This
touches on it. We have this feud. But we have the feuds we
know there's a inter governmental feud as CIA
certainly NSA. We know that that that we know firsthand CIA does
not like NSA is crypto, weenie boy. Collect everything. Screw
everybody else. methodology. A CIA agent, working for a
contractor, as a contractor for NSA outed NSA. This is Snowden.
We know that CIA feels this guy and Snowden did it, you know,
hey, valor for him. This is a form of retaliation. No, the
retaliation is in here and at a meta level. If the government
what if in 20 years, we really find out that everybody was
spying on everybody, this is this. I think this is what's
happening. We find out. Well, we have some we have some some
actual proof. Everybody was spying on everybody. There's 16,
I think 16 different intelligence organizations in
the intelligence community. And then,
and then there's the contractors. Yeah. Millions
chose to joggers, where they came up to
play just random joggers that happens every day. And
with an agency, they could have been with one of the
contractors, they could have been lucky. They could have
answered that's what his wife was. Yeah, of course. Never
forget.
She saw the silence or slip out from the jogging suit. This is,
this is this is what's really, truly sad is we have gotten to
this point, and thanks to 911 and the obviously we we can all
look at how that came to be and is just one great coincidence.
Regardless are are
there's plenty of evidence to suggest that we were headed this
way long before 911. Was that just sped
up that you just need a tipping point? You just and the real do
what
what to me? is the key to this is the money. Just too much
money? Yes, that's being blown on this crap. Yes.
And that is why I believe the timing is so good. If you look
at what money is being it, I'll just read you one line from
this, this bill that was passed the spending bill appropriations
bill, what the way that works, they throw a whole bunch of
things into it, including the NDAA, the National Defense
Authorization Act, which is all of this stuff we need to pay
for. And so, I I looked at not only the this $1.1 trillion
bill, but also at the Authorization Act that was
folded into it. And one of the key phrases of this is buying
back the sequestration. So this is all about the money. It of
course it is it is purely a financing bill, but to have this
come out and obfuscate the news cycle while all these things are
happening in the background. You know that that coincidence to me
is just too obvious. You know, special ops and terrorism are
getting a lot here in in a lot of money.
This is all money wasted. Yeah, yeah. of taxpayer money is
astonishing how much taxpayer money we have just to waste, but
we do it. Well, of course, a lot of is loaned. I mean, we borrow
money to the tune of 14, I think, really 14 trillion,
but 17 1717 cents, how much of that you got.
I don't get don't get any of it.
I'd like to thank a few people. But before that I I'd like to if
you're done, I'd like to wrap this segment up with some
I've got one or two more things. Ancillary, they're ancillary.
I'd rather do them after the break.
But then I'd like to wrap up this portion with some wise
words from our president, who has now resorted to quoting
scripture at least what he thinks is in Scripture.
We have Oh, you're kidding me.
No, I'm not kidding. You have this one. But what he is trying
to say is, you know, hey, maybe we need to clear clean up our
own house and not be so judgmental of everybody else
around the world who are doing horrible things. This is his
main message and he he's going to not only misquote scripture I
don't think this is in scripture and it up soon enough and he
doesn't even do it well
and I think yeah, good book says you know don't don't throw
stones and glass houses or make sure we're looking at the log in
our eye but before we're pointing out the moat and other
folks eyes they may think go boom
is a don't throw a stone in a glass house which I think means
people in glass houses shouldn't cast the first stone Are you
okay? Yeah
the sun like that. Yeah,
I don't believe that is from the good book.
I don't know that it is
either. I don't think that scripture there and and look at
the split the log in our own right. The moat of others, I
thought was the splinter. in your own eye the log in the log
in our own I don't know, but it didn't sound right. No, it was
unscripted and therefore unworthy.
Yeah, he's short timer. All right.
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About just got a message in Adam where did the no agenda chat
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Well, that's a 50 says it's I think it's a good idea. I just
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The problem is with Pay Pal, you only get 20 cents of it.
Exactly. Getting that keeps him Which reminds me I did get a
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don't encourage it.
Yeah, we are trying to do some work here.
Yeah, and it's, you know, the nine cent check in a frame. I
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When they call you? Oh, yeah, you're under? Yeah, they did. I
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Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, I
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I want to talk about this spending bill for a moment or
Well, let
me finish my list here. And there's a couple of things I
wanted to talk about. One of the things that's going on that I
think may be a few skated by the by this event of the release of
the report is this major event that I want to talk about a
release of a report and it's going to put risk lives at risk.
And there's no reason for an all the rest, play the Abbaye clip
now this is a clip to me, which is similar to what we've already
analyzed with South Korea but played RB and what's going on in
Japan, which I think is much more important than anything to
do with the old reports
and I'm at what ABA is calling a changing security environment.
his Cabinet approved a landmark change in policy. In July, they
decided to re interpret the Constitution to enable the
country to use the right to collective self defense. It
allows Japan to defend a closely related country under attack,
like this scenario where Japan's Maritime Self Defense Force
ships defend a US naval vessel. Past dealers interpreted the
constitution to mean Japan cannot take such actions. But
our best says the country must change course
bandhan Sukhothai
making all possible preparations will in itself serve as the
power to thwart attempts to wage war on Japan. This is deterrence
Okay,
does anybody find this a little disturbing?
Well Well there's two there's two things one we already knew
that the Constitution was being changed so they they could
defend themselves and we're all over that and in fact while that
clip was playing I was looking in the report for the I know
there's a specific Japan portion
though in the in the bill yeah figures yeah all idea obviously
to anyone I'd be I think we everyone should be on board with
this idea. We need to sell more stuff. Yes. Sell the most of is
these as bombs and rockets companies they're gonna buy from
us not the Chinese or the Russians.
Here is the let me see. No, the funds available title obligate
architect engineer, Baba Baba. I thought there was something else
in here. I have to. I have to scan to the bill for a moment.
Yeah, so the idea is that we want Japan obviously to start
buying their own stuff and you know, we'll be happy to help out
obviously, when we have rate of overtime pay. This is filled
with John Hold on a second when you get all this rate of
overtime pay for Department of the Navy employees performing
work aboard or dioxide in support of the nuclear aircraft
carrier forward deployed in Japan. Reaffirming a sense of
Congress reaffirming security cooperation with Japan and the
Republic of Korea of two places by the way, who now are going to
be customers. Korea, South Korea, we are going to stop the
operational command of their defense we're handing it back to
them. And they we of course want them to pick up that operational
command and buy our stuff. Our sense of Congress is the sense
of Congress that increased cooperation on missile defense
among the United States, Japan and the Republic Republic of
Korea would enhance the security of allies of the United States
in Northeast Asia increased the defensive forward base forces of
the United States and enhanced the protection of the United
States with regard to threats from the Korean peninsula. So
the Secretary of Defense shall conduct an assessment to
identify opportunities for increasing missile defense
cooperation as code for foreign sales. We the United States,
Japan, public Korea, evaluate opera options for enhanced short
range missile rocket and artillery defense capabilities
to address the threats from the Korean peninsula. This kind of
tells you that at least for the next period of that is now being
financed that presumed the bill is going to pass we will see a
North Korea being very very dangerous and us helping our and
ourselves and our allies and Japan and the Republic of Korea
with some sales that's
fine. It feels sorry for the North Koreans because there is
there a punching bag there. They're being vilified as a
sales mechanism.
They well isn't it isn't that what the whole Axis of Evil was
to start with?
Well, it looks like it in hindsight there's a We're
selling a lot of statistical advice and Howard warned against
Oh yeah.
We play that you talk about it no one cares. Nobody cares. The
rundown of all of the
the mind will care when all hell breaks loose.
I'm just looking at the billions of dollars for the Japanese
fleet Yokota Air Base it's just so much money going to to
finance this really the sales it is what it's just it is a sales
job. This this is the military industrial complex, not just
Eisenhower I'm sorry. That is at its finest its finest our
finest hour of selling crap to people that don't need it.
Oh, well, yeah, they will. They don't but they think they do
because well, it's
me Yeah. Well, we're that's what how sales works a good sale. I
mean, you can sell somebody something they actually need and
want they'll buy it. Yes. And there are people that are in
active war zones that need to buy stuff because of course, we
may have created the active war zone or whatever the case isn't.
It's not much of a sales job. But when you get started in
during peacetime to get people riled up enough to buy stuff is
like you have to create a you have to create bullcrap, you
have to lie to them, and you have to convince them they need
these these things. And they were valid standing.
Sadly, yes, we're very good at it. Did you want to make another
point?
No, I That's my only point. It's a sad point to make.
I looked at this. This bill, I think if we
did something, if we made something other than armaments,
there's these current US companies that make these little
those crazy little vehicles that cost $2 million and have a
machine gun on the turret, you know, and they try to sell them
to the local police departments, these things, these kinds of
things. This is terrible. It's not doing anyone any good.
Well, the President and his cronies, and we have talked
about it before, but I think we have to revisit it, I'd like to
do it right now. are trying to change our, our future. So we
will not just be well, that's probably not true. Trying to at
least not create soldiers and salespeople of weaponry out of
out of the youth. And we are doing that by celebrating our
Hour of Code.
Hi, and laugh. And I'm Tanya, and we're lucky enough to be
studying computer science. Hi, I'm Tanya, we think it's
terrible that 90% of schools don't teach it. We definitely
didn't offer it at my high school. So we're trying to make
this video to show that anybody can learn. You want to get 10
million students to do our code, our code, our code, our code,
our code, our code. How do you get the sunflower?
This is so good. Wait for the lines of code, do some
actions I got it.
And then we'll run it and see what happens
I wrote this because that you just very awesome. I felt like
Cody's like FBI hacker.
A little bit of problem solving a little bit of logic. It's like
construction programming is a lot easier today. It's
don't just play on your phone program.
I just want to get that in. Don't just play on your phone
program it now I am of course a big advocate of today's kids
should learn how to set up a web server, email server, some basic
things, not so sure that programming your phone is
exactly what we want our kids to do. But the President is all in
on this as his Hollywood as his Silicon Valley. And here's his
one minute speech on the Hour of Code. Hi, everybody, everybody.
Last year, students and teachers across our country celebrated
Computer Science Education Week with an hour of code. They learn
new skills, program games and apps and realized that while no
one is born, a computer scientist becoming a computer
scientists isn't as scary as it sounds. With hard work and a low
math and science anyone can do it for this year as computing NO
to these are all common core competencies. And this is being
presented as part of Common Core because it's the same people who
are pushing this or Science
Education Week, more than 48 million people have already
signed up. And we're hoping even more of you will get involved.
Don't just consume things, create things take an hour to
learn more about the technology that touches every part of our
lives. It's how you can prepare yourself with the skills you
need for your future. And it's how you can help prepare our
country for the future as well. America has always been a nation
of tinkerers and builders and inventors.
We Is that true? We're a nation of tinkerers and inventors.
I think if you go to Ben Franklin, you can you can make
that assertion and say that he was the first of the
Tinker Tinker brought the world everything from the light bulb
and the telephone to the iPad and the internet. Whether you're
a young man trying his hand at programming for the first time,
or a young woman who's already hard at work on the next big
thing. We're counting on you, America's young people to keep
us on the cutting edge. Thanks, everybody. Thank you and happy
coding.
Alright. Yeah, some exercise kids
go to a code.org. I
just want to review Bill Gates's thing to he's got this no,
this is all Bill Gates, the Microsoft YouthSpark
code.org co.org A money
to about a boot. And of course, it's a nonprofit, of course,
of course ever not found code.org to o code.org.
That won't work. So well. Let's look at the leadership. That
said that CO found Anders This is Hadi Partovi and I think
these are x something or other guys but the donor list is
really what I find interesting. Platinum supporters $3 million
plus contribution. Balmer family giving little picture of a Steve
Ballmer right there, Google, Microsoft and the Omidyar
Network. Yeah, I really want to my kids involved with these with
these outfits. The gold supporters $1 million or more.
That's Ali Patro V and Hadi. Partovi. I guess these, I guess
these guys are the the brothers that are married, I'm not sure.
And they are. They're from. I like link exchange, Myspace
msn.com. They kind of I guess that Microsoft, Microsoft guys?
Answer Microsoft. I don't know, Bill Gates, Facebook guys,
Owner, John and Ann door. John Doerr usual suspects, John
Doerr. But he would ask me about what he would do up with his his
how, what, Adam, what's your recommendation? My 16 year old
daughter is all effed up. What should I do? Code I think, teach
her how to code. John, that'll help. Sean Parker Foundation,
Salesforce. Many of the Amazon what do we have here?
Okay, it was Microsoft. You're right. And yeah,
see, I told you. This all this is a very, it's, it's really the
Microsoft side of the world. I don't think this is very good.
It's not balanced, for sure. And you go to the partners, this is
what is what is happening here. And then we've talked about this
before. This, these people are changing the curriculum. They're
starting. They're helping public schools go out of existence,
bringing in charter schools, and they want kids to learn how to
code so they can be the next cheaper coders. Yeah, cheap
coders for these companies. And then right at the top, Amazon,
Apple, Best Buy. We have Electronic Arts, Dropbox,
Facebook, Google, juniper, con LinkedIn, Rovio, Yahoo, Zappos.
And it's okay, but let's not kid each other about this. And I'm
getting all these notes from producers of ours who say, hey,
my kid is now involved in this and that pushing this and this
is coming home with him an hour of code and okay. I don't like
the fact that it's completely driven by business. Is that what
we want for education? Is that how we want it to run
within we already discussed this with the idea that it was
brought up in one of the tutorials lectures about about
Common Core was like the pipeline. Yeah, it's yes, the
pipeline, the pipeline blind to a job with with, you know,
Excel, Cisco, Cisco, in Chicago, Cisco in Chicago, they open up
the they're paying for the charter schools, they open as
many charter schools as public schools closed. And now these
kids are a pipeline, they have the pipeline to the
what I think is funny about the charter school thing, which
will, we need to do always do that special episode discussing
in more detail, is the idea that you go into a community, and you
skim off all the smartest kids in a school and kill the rest.
That's what they would like to be the best of all, sports has
offered them the opportunity, quote, unquote, to go to the
charter school and the parents, oh, yes, of course. And then you
go to the next school, next school, and you skim off a bunch
of kids, and you either send it to the first or the site, and
then another Charter School, and you leave the public schools
with the worst kids. And of course, now that there's now
that there's not as many of them, you close the school, and
then you put those worst kids in with the other worst kids. So
you have to buy them their gangs,
you've got to you've got a bad bank, a slush fund.
And then so you have a school of horrible students that are very
poorly managed, let's say. They have issues that aren't being
addressed in any way. The school sucks, they can't teach anyone
anything. And you end up with a kind of a mud sill class of
students that can't read or write. And they of course, go
out and become criminals or do what they have to do to get out
of that situation, which would usually be to get out of town,
which they can't do. And you end up and then they wound again.
Now, when the government comes along, says, well, these charter
schools are doing so much better than the public school. Public
School stinks. We have to fire everybody there. And then they
put in a prison warden in there to get it over with it's
actually a conduit right to prison. And so they can make
license plates and then whole thing is stinks. If anybody
can't see it. I'm sorry. No, that's okay. should get a pet
peeve thing for that.
Yeah. John Cena borax diva
things you want them welcome back in just just a quick
rundown since of course I did go through it of the the spending
bills, just some funny things in there. The funniest thing, of
course is that here is John Boehner with his promise from I
think 2010, the American people
want leaders who will listen, they don't need any more
lectures coming into Washington. They've ignored the cries of
outrage from the American people by forcing a vote on bill after
bill without giving lawmakers enough time to even read the
bill says, If I'm the speaker, next year, we're gonna get the
Reform Movement moving again in the United States Congress. One
of my first orders of business would be to post every bill
online for at least 72 hours before it comes to the floor of
the house for a vote. Eight or whatever
everyone promised that people forget, I don't forget so
quickly, but I wanted to make sure that everyone who Baynard
also promised this. So we don't have that. And I guess it's
going to be voted on today, it was hard for me, I had to skim
certain places to just to get through it while I had the the
torture report as well. So just a lot to go through
simultaneously a few things that are of notes, I think that we
should just discuss. In general campaign finance, which you
already brought up, this is interesting, where this is now
going to change a donor who had to date if I think the limit was
$32,400, I thought it was 6400. could be it could be I could
have that wrong. But now, you'll be able to donate almost 10
times as much. Up to 300. I think it's the 32,000 that's the
main maybe it's per household, you can just whatever
is beside the point, you can update. So you can get more
money, tenfold, tenfold, tenfold,
it's good for the only way you're gonna keep newspapers in
business. All of that goes positive thing.
It's very good for the media. Yes, that's where all that money
goes. newspapers, television, that radio, the media
appropriations portion of the Act, the kind of overturn,
really the biggest change of the original Dodd Frank Act, which
you'll recall, was brought into existence, because we never
ever, ever wanted to get into a situation again, where we would
have such a financial crisis, we had the great recession, worst
ever since the Great Depression, which President Obama saved us
from. So he needs to veto this. If you can do line item vetoes,
but he needs to veto the change, where they tried to make this
change earlier now it's been solidified, we actually track
the original bill, where the risk for derivatives swaps in
particular, will be burdened on the FDIC, the Federal Deposit
Insurance Corporation, which is a contributions from the bank,
who will never ever have enough money to shoulder a meltdown of
the derivatives trading, which is what is the what it $300
trillion, if that really all came out? rageous. Yeah. And
it's all just papers and people promises and yeah, but
then, of course, the liability of 300 trillion is out there.
But the likelihood of is more likely to just turn over than it
is to cash out unless we expect another meltdown, like we had in
2007 2008, then you might have some problems. But you did. The
assumption is always made that yeah, that did theoretically,
you could have this this liability come to the fore, but
the likelihood is pretty low.
What, what have a meltdown of the derivatives market? Yeah.
Okay. That's partially what happened with with the
reinsurance and why AIG had to go and Lehman Brothers. Yeah.
All right.
I mean, they've, they're gone. And now yeah, of course, the
mechanisms are still in place, which is what bothers everybody.
But it just, I didn't know I think if we economy collapses,
it's going to be for something else. I think that may be a
contributing factor.
Nice to see that we had nice to see we did have some some space
to add $7 million to the Justice Department's budget for the new
anti Heroin Task Force. Not quite sure what they're going to
do yet anti heroin fee A Well, this is for the COPS Office,
though what are the cops is that I forget what the acronym is.
The money will be used as part of a competitive grant program
for drug enforcement, including investigations and operations to
stop the distribution or sale of the drug. Okay, sounds to me
like there. This is actually to enhance the sales pipeline. If
you want to stop the sales, how about the poppy production,
heroin production Afghanistan never been as high ever,
but is now at record breaking levels. It's just reported more
heroin is coming out of Afghanistan than ever.
Nice, isn't it? Yeah. Well, it's
a no, we know why. You know, it's because that's what we're
there it is this how the CIA gets that extra money so they
can own all the media. Yep.
Funny. Of course, everyone mentions Joe Biden again, has a
pay freeze. So sad. It'd be convenient and has been singled
out in this bill. No more money for the vice president. It
happens every single time and he never gets a raise. Libya, no
more US aid until the Secretary of State confirmed the country
is cooperating with ongoing investigations into the Benghazi
attack. And there was a lot of Moore's hearings going on about
that, which I want nothing really worth mentioning,
was what's his name, trying to get some trying to squeeze
something out of these, these guys who are sick of testifying,
they're never gonna get anywhere.
District of Columbia will be prohibited from legalizing
marijuana for much of the coming year. We were waiting to see
what would happen with this. This would block the Justice
Department from interfering with state level medical marijuana
measures and prohibits the Drug Enforcement Agency from
interfering with industrial hemp production, though there's a
little bit of movement there, but not really, really anything.
super interesting. I saw there was lots of stuff approval for a
military cooperation with Burma. I've been kind of waiting to see
what's gonna happen up there. And I'm not quite sure. There's
not no real numbers necessarily attributed to it. But it does
flow into that whistleblowers. We have language in here ensures
the government contractors are not barred from reporting
allegations of waste, fraud or abuse if they sign a
confidentiality agreement. And the occupational Yeah, the
Occupational Safety and Health Administration will receive a
$500,000 increase for its enforcement of existing
whistleblower laws. Yeah, that's really going to help. That's
really going to help running the White House, EB nine see I had
let me just see the military side of that what I have here. I
made it several markups and notes, we have a special ops and
terrorism. Extension of authority for support of special
operations to combat terrorism. Carrie was also up at the hill
asking for a very specific authorized authorized use of
military force. He wants a new one for ISIS. And I think that
they're trying to fold that into this. Maybe that's why it's
being delayed at the moment. He wants one. I did not clip
anything from him because I know he's too boring to play on the
show. It's very interesting how he's stating that. The President
I think if you speed
him up in my hell,
no, it's not gonna help. The president to clearly has under
the 2002 AUMF has the right to go after ISIS. But now they want
one very specific which will specifically broad, which allows
the author the use of military force anywhere in the world, not
just a particular reason, just anywhere. is very disturbing. We
have the some transfer of land ownership, which seems to be a
quid pro quo, kind of where there will be eight new national
parks 245,000 acres of land designated as new national
parks, in a swap 110,000 acres of federal ownership for
economic development will be created such as mining, drilling
and infrastructure. I do not know exactly where that's going
to take place but it seems like somebody's getting a good deal
out of that. And as I said the main the main thing really here
is buying back the sequestration. That is literally
what it said says in the defense portion of the bill just have to
turn everything back and every news report that I can find says
exactly that. This is the sequestration ends here
and we have to realize and remember and remind people that
sequestration was a cutback on increases on increases. So
they've got the same amount of money they've always had to
blow. But the increases were pulled back. Yes. And now the
increases will be back in play. So back back on their old
treadmill so the amount of money going to these to the military
for training, we'll be again back to where it was, which is
lots of, well, it's a lot of money, a lot of stuff that goes
on to the surplus market lost a lot of drone financing, a lot of
drone financing, also a lot of stuff that gets pulled out from
these battle fronts and given to local police. All comes from
that that sort of wild spending.
I wanted to throw back to something that I said that I had
difficulty convincing you about and I want to give it another go
if you're if you're okay with that. This is about a Ferguson
and the result of this the body cameras and when I believe is
federalisation,
the body cameras are abomination.
I think it's the I do not think it's a good initiative. I think
what is happening is we are seeing a federalization of our
police forces. First if the president
exactly how you get from body cameras to federalisation is my
other counter argument my others my side of this for people who
who are just tuning in
and this is what I would like to talk about, I think I can I want
to take another go at it. How we go from body cameras to
federalisation. Okay, first let's listen to a little bit of
the language which is going on this. The President did an
interview to a couple interviews with BT Black Entertainment
Television. I've liked that interviewer a lot. By the way.
Yeah, you
should hear what Tavis Smiley said about
I did hear that. Tavis Smiley hated that. I know
what Tavis Smiley doesn't like the president because he won't
do his show, apparently,
Tavis Smiley and he got into a fight with Don Lemon. I like
that I'm not gonna waste our time talking about that. I like
this guy. I like the way he asked questions. He sounded like
Eddie Murphy when you didn't when you close your eyes, which
just made it kind of funny. But here's the Telemundo guy. And I
did not like this line of questioning the issue of the
killings of Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Trayvon Martin clearly
shows that we don't live in a post racial society as many
expected when you were elected. Well, I didn't expect that. You
probably didn't either. But But many people expected you
probably to do more on race relations, dealing with white
privilege. Do you get angry with this dealing with white
privilege? Now? It's just out there. Now it's just out there.
It's part of the we have white privilege. So this is not it's
gone beyond racism. Now, the way I read this, no, it's not that
some people are racist, white people have a problem, white
privilege. I do not like this where this is headed in. In the
way we're in the discourse. Here is the representative from the
Center for American Progress. This is a Democratic Party
funded outfit. Her name is Aisha Moodle, Mills, she's on MSNBC.
And wow,
I'm thinking for 2016. I mean, the fact that Republicans have
such a big block of of voters in the south, do you think it's
gonna be a problem, for example, for Hillary Clinton or any other
Democrat who runs in 2016?
For sure the South is going to be a tough nut nut to crack but
but I actually disagree with this idea that it's that the
reason why Democrats have completely lost the South is
because it's about policy exclusively. The reality. And
every single poll shows this,
if it comes back to reality, every single poll shows that
this must be true fact that
Democrats have completely lost the South because white people
are running away from Barack Obama and this African American
man who's occupying the White House, Mary Landrieu only got
something like 80% of the white vote, you're seeing that more
and more and more white people are voting for Republicans and I
and I talk about that because we can't discount the idea of the
racial politics that are playing out down there. People hate this
President and southerners hate this president Ward's may have
hated any other Democratic president.
Yeah, he's black. We hate him white privilege, which is, you
might as well say white supremacy. Come on, just say it.
A couple of guys have. Of course,
this is this is ridiculous. There is no there is no evidence
Pete white people are running away in the South because he's
black. There's no evidence of this being the reason it is but
it is very, very dangerous language and people are starting
to believe it. People are starting to buy into this
because hey, it's on TV all day long so you can control the
minds. You can control people the way they think. Okay, now
we're going to move into what I think is where this is heading
and it started out with Eric Holder. He is He is the he's the
guy who doesn't get a lot of the the mainstream media Attention.
When he, when he does his little speeches, he's very boring, very
dry, you only want to listen to a clip. But he has spoken about
a creating the Institute of Justice within the Justice
Department. And the I actually call it the department of social
justice. This is what? So justice, you know, what, we need
an Institute of Justice, which will deal with racial issues.
And the Justice Department can do some legal things when it
comes to police forces and city. Yes, I want
to mention a meme that's going around. That may relate to this,
okay. And you see it on TV, there's a bunch of actors in the
black and white, and they're saying things, one after the
other, and about social justice and all that sort of thing. And
somebody comes out and says, the opposite of Poverty isn't
wealth. It's justice. Wow. Now the and I've heard this before,
I didn't think about it until I saw it again, this last time,
and I wasn't gonna bring it up until you brought it up. But the
opposite is in anti social justice in some funny way. To
me, if I had a choice between wealth and justice as an
opposite of poverty, I take the wealth and then fight to get the
justice. But okay, let's just say that justice, I don't even
know what that means. By the way, it seems like a non
sequitur, how is justice, the opposite of poverty, you could
be in poverty and get plenty of justice, it doesn't do any good
in terms of making more money or getting wealth, or getting out
of poverty, let's say, well, these, these are the means
assume that justice by in of itself will bring people out of
poverty, because the only reason they're in poverty is because of
some injustice that connects to white privilege. And this, and
this is an anti poverty program that he's suggesting, amongst
the cognitive Sani, who know that justice is a code word.
Very good point, we now have to keep our eyes open for this
particular meme. This justice is the is the antithesis,
antithesis, or the opposite opposite of poverty. Very good.
But I believe that what is happening here is a a move, to
control it certainly control policing across the country,
just so people understand maybe different where you're from. In
the United States, the Austin Police Department is run by the
City of Austin, it may have connections with the city of
Dallas or the city of New York, but it is not in Washington, DC,
who runs the city of Austin, they just don't run it. But it's
our it's our police force. And the sheriff fits into this
somehow, which we've talked about is a very important guy in
the politics and with how things actually work with a law and
order. And that is our system. With the federal funding of
these body cameras. I believe we are starting down a path that
will federalize the police forces, then and I'm going to
try it again with you. And then I've had four clips to
accentuate this point. First of all, listen to what the man
says. We've I've we've been through this a million times the
things President Obama says, You gotta listen really carefully.
Because he all he they know very well what he's saying. Who
writes it for me, however, however it comes up, it's very,
very smart. They're very, very meticulous about I told you this
three years ago.
Here's the interview with a BT, where he starts to go down this
road one and progress means different things to different
people. So there are those that want body cameras or those that
want civilian review boards. And much of this is not a federal
mandate. Most of
it, most of it is not federal, but the federal government can
have an influence. Okay.
So this is have an influence, to me means he wants to have that
and influence
fund a lot of jurisdictions all across the country.
Follow the money. Yes, we've already been funding police
departments with this militaristic stuff, which police
departments have now come to depend on whether they're using
it or auctioning it and use the money. This is a federal
funding. And when you control the purse strings, you have
leverage, as the President will say himself,
and if we can identify best practices, then for us to be
able to say you need to adopt these best practices. And if you
don't, then perhaps some of the funding that's available around
some things that law enforcement cares about, become less
available.
This is exactly how common core was put in place. If you don't
accept the Common Core, then the billions of dollars from the No
Child Left Behind and the Start programs, you may not get that
funding. So what do you want to do?
We're going to provide more to folks who are doing the right
thing and you We're going to be investigating folks who are not
doing the right thing.
I'm sorry, not just not giving what we're gonna investigate
you, if you don't take the money by doing the right thing we may
investigate you
think that becomes an important part of the leverage that we can
exert.
And does that happen through federal legislation? Or does
that happen through utilizing the DOJ as a tool? We saw Eric
Holder in Cleveland yesterday. And the dissent decree and the
the supervision agreement, I think was a good one that said,
the city of Cleveland, here's what you've been doing wrong
systemically, right. And now we're going to hold you
accountable. Is that going to become the rule? Or does there
ultimately have to be federal policy?
Let's stop for one moment here and switch over to Eric Holder
with the mayor of Cleveland, the police department of Cleveland,
horrible racist profiling, gotta stop gotta get them on board.
And they have now come to an agreement which will turn into a
legal term, a consent decree decree with the Department of
Justice. Here is the announcement with Eric Holder
and the mayor of Cleveland
since March of 2013. The Justice Department has closely examined
nearly 600 use of force incidents that occurred between
2010 and 2013, including the incidents involving the use of
lethal and less than lethal force, we have determined that
there is reasonable cause to believe that the Cleveland
division of public police engages in a pattern and
practice of using excessive force and as a result of
systemic deficiencies, including insufficient accountability,
inadequate training, and equipment, ineffective policies
and inadequate engagement in the community. Now, fortunately,
today, I can announce that the Department of Justice and the
city of Cleveland have come together, have come together to
set in motion a process that will remedies these issues in a
comprehensive and in a court enforceable manner. under Mayor
Jackson's leadership, the city has acknowledged that the
department's findings raise issues of importance to people
really throughout this community. And together, we have
agreed to a statement of principles that will lead to a
court enforceable consent decree, including an independent
monitor who will oversee the implementation of sustainable
reforms, assess compliance based on objective measures, and
ensure that robust policies and practices will result in more
effective and constitutional policing.
Jess, okay, that is a legally enforceable agreement between a
city and an independent state now directly under enforcement
by the Department of Justice, once they get the consent decree
drawn up and signed back to the President.
You know, let's look at what the the taskforce generates. I mean,
I've confidence, you know, we've got a police chief, we got a
criminologist. We've got civil rights leaders, we've got
activists, as part of this task force process. Let's see the
specifics that they generate, but I will tell you that the
Department of Justice already has authority. So in the Eric
Garner case, Eric Holder, I think, properly said, we're
going to initiate a civil rights investigation. The Cleveland
case you just mentioned, we already have the ability to take
a look.
This is pretty much the par for the course, just like the
authorized use of military force, we already have the
proper authority to do this. Under a civil rights
investigation. I think I don't even know if you call it a civil
rights investigation, I believe it can just be a investigation
about breaking the law. I don't know why it has to specifically
be called a civil rights investigation. We already have
the authority for that. But we will go to individual cities and
states and we will get a legally binding agreement, where we
oversee what you're doing. And we also have all the money that
you need. Finally, the President is just going to come out and
say it.
You know, I've said it before, the vast majority of law
enforcement officers are doing a really tough job. And most of
them are doing it well, and are trying to do the right thing.
But a combination of bad training, in some cases, a
combination in some cases of departments that really are not
trying to root out biases, or tolerate sloppy police work. A
combination in some cases, folks, just not knowing any
better. And I think a lot of cases, subconscious fear of
folks who look different. All of this contributes to a national
problem. That's going to require a national solution.
Folks, before you drag this on any further, we're
going to end it right now. I'm going to end it right now. But
go ahead.
Well, before you drag this on any further, first of all, yeah,
I'm sure the Feds would love to run all the police departments
if they could because it's more money to them and they like to
get as much money as they can, they can take the local money
and put that in their coffers and wasted, like they do
everything else. And it's a known fact that they've done
this, you know, they try to push their way in their states like
they do with road programs, oh, you're not gonna go along with
this program? Well, then we'll cut off your road funding, they
do that they screw the states that way. So they can push them
around, even though they're they don't know quite what to do this
marijuana thing, even though in that bill, you're talking about
as discussed in Washington, DC marijuana proposals, like we're
not going to just not going to give him any money, because it's
not what we want. And and this experiment of federalizing all
the local police departments actually done in Sweden in 1965,
where they did exactly what you're describing, they took
over the whole place, it turned out to be a fiasco. And they had
to federalize that in a federal management sense where they had
to give local, because they would, because the Feds can't.
This is like Macy's having centralized buying. So when I
went when they started establishing centralized
anything, which is federal government doing it National
Police, you always screw up because you don't know what's
going on in the local areas, you don't know anything, you're just
idiots. You're just robots. And that's what they always ends up
happening always gets pushed back because of that Macy's with
his centralized buying results in me being able to go to
Florida and buy some really outstanding wool suits, because
nobody in Florida ever buys these suits, but decentralized
buyers put them there anyway. And none of this that you're
good that you've gone on and on about has anything to do with
the cameras. This is a fallacy argument, what you would call
post hoc, where you see one thing leading to another and you
hook the two together, as the one has something to do with the
other your real argument, which is that the Federal Police,
we're gonna have a federalized police demands these cameras,
because if we don't have cameras on everybody, all these cops is
going to be completely out of control. Thus, the cameras are
needed, I am not seeing the connection between cameras. And
this because this has been going on forever. And the cameras are
an element that has nothing to do with it,
despite the fact that they are being funded and called for by
the central federal government that
despite that, that's where you get the fallacy fallacy argument
of post hoc, you're connecting to things that have nothing to
do with each other,
they're gonna come for you First
I'll have a camera to
hear is the promise the President made, which I have
just not forgotten, we cannot
continue to rely only on our military, in order to achieve
the national security objectives that we've said. We've got to
have a civilian national security force that's just as
powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
Enjoy that
came long before the candidates. The cameras may be a defensive
mechanism against this. And that's one of the things he
promised when he got elected was the set up shop, which a lot of
people believe is the TSA shit set up shop as a national police
or a national brown shirts. I don't even know what he was
talking about when you tried to break it down. But yeah, so what
he's this is old. This is not even new. It's it's a long,
desired situation that the Democrats and I don't know why
Obama, why they want this, but it's not not a new situation.
And it's got nothing to do with the cameras. Your connection.
Yeah. So in other words, I'm not buying any of it in regards to
the cameras. Okay.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Take away the cameras.
I'm okay. Take away the cameras.
Okay. I'll take away the cameras. And then yeah, I agree
with everything you say.
Okay, all right, then fine. But then I then I am wrong about the
cameras.
Yeah, that is my assertion,
then I'm wrong. It's good. I'd rather I'm happy to be wrong
about the cameras.
Yeah, I do not good to go with the National Police.
No, I'm all against this. This is my point. That this cannot
happen if this is it, what is happening is because of the
racial tension that is being amplified, amplified to an
extreme degree. This is why the President feels very comfortable
in saying we are coming for you. And we're going to create
legally binding agreements with you so we can control you with
our money and with the court system. We agree on that.
Yeah, I think there's always been a trend of they've been
trying anyway, they don't think they're as good as it as it
they're not as good at it as they like to believe. Right.
Well, I certainly hope these cameras do not contribute to
going down that road. Let me let me let me put it this won't
get off this camera thing. You are stuck on that. You just say
that. What is it with you in these cameras? There's something
else going on?
I don't think it's a good idea. Ya know, I've gotten that
impression. I'm from the future.
In this case, you will have your front confusion and you must
know the cameras are everywhere. Yeah,
I'm all for less cameras,
but you know, it's already happened.
I'm for less cameras is what I'm saying.
I'm not a big camera fanatic. Yes, you know, when I buy a
monitor if it's got a camera on it I put a piece of gaffers tape
right over the thing right over there do the same thing with the
phone camera.
I don't know maybe it's just I don't like the idea of cameras
that are part of a federal government program I'm okay with
I'm more okay with cameras when individual police departments go
okay, we're gonna put cameras on our guys and some do and some
have success and some haven't. I don't like the idea that why
does that have to come from the federal government?
Why why it shouldn't I don't think it should either.
And I went so there's always strings attached this is my
point. This is why I don't like this part. I don't like that
seems like you're starting something
you've already got half these police departments buying all
the crap that TSA was quote unquote giving away
they're not I thought they were the 1033 program I thought it
would be it is gifted
and I kind of yeah yeah it's gifted so well with the seller
they bought or they gift or whatever it's still a strings
attached
Yeah, not a fan
no I'm always been against from the beginning the military's
ation of the American police departments and to the point
where the American police departments aren't even police
departments anymore, as it was pointed out in the wire when one
of the cops was lamenting the problem with the law enforcement
is that nobody police's the all they do is practice law
enforcement. Law enforcement is different than policing. Yes.
Law enforcement is oh, you build you stepped across other you
broke the law. You're in jail for that. There's not policing
policing, you say, Hey, don't step over that line. Again.
You're gonna get me you know, that's a violation. That's
policing. And that's what should be done. You never see any of
that on the street especially with the black the blacks that
are blah. Oh, you broke the law. You broke the section so and so
are you see these indictments where they list everything? Now
you didn't have your shoes tied? You didn't do this? And you
didn't date the guy for all these things when he's get the
guy you know, was a shoplifter took a candy bar. Spear resisted
arrest. He did this. He did that.
Speaking of moving on, speaking of police, and I was laughing at
these kinds of stories. We're going over to Euro land for a
moment. And the people in the lowlands are always so surprised
about Texas and well, you live there and you have guns in his
crazy and right now there is a a way crime wave of liquidation
happening in the Netherlands by the so called micro mafia.
Well, I don't know anything about this. This is
great. Details somewhat sketchy, but people are being killed left
and right. Cops are taking people's cell phone video and
pictures away from them at the sign at the scene of the crime.
And people of course, have no recourse against that in the
Netherlands, you have no rights you can opt out if
you're in the Netherlands or anyplace else else for that
matter. You set up one of those situations where you as you're
recording a video is sending it to a server.
I don't have any details on that but you would think that is also
possible but people just say hey, the cops to be a man they
they took my phone away maybe made me delete everything.
Apparently so I think the cops are probably involved in this
whole thing and Dutch police of the Justice Department has had
its issues in the past with with many different situations. What
the police are saying as well. A big shipment of cocaine was
either stolen or someone didn't deliver or something happened.
And now it's okay not heroin. Cocaine is what there's well and
remember that the a couple of weeks ago when I was over there,
somehow heroin has been laced or white heroin being sold as
cocaine and and tourists are dying because they think in a
little little sneaky little trick for the snoot and then
they stopped breathing. Inhale is heroin and there are signs
everywhere saying you won't be arrested for doing drugs but
please you know, be careful there's no bad bad coke out
there and it's it's actually heroin and you can die. So there
so maybe maybe that's why the maybe they're substituting
heroin for the cocaine and of course heroin is much cheaper.
Much much cheaper right now because it's so we have
overproduction the cops are saying this is not this is no
longer about the the missing cocaine so they clearly know
what's going on. But now all the kingpins are so worried they're
gonna get killed they decided to take out the other A guy first
tempted, some innocent woman was just riddled with bullets in
broad daylight the other day trying to shoot somebody else.
And
it's right was trying to shoot somebody else. Now somebody
somebody was trying to shoot another person and they wound up
riddling her. Oh, and it is Moroccans and anti aliens that
if you're from the
Antilles, and like Antillean I like, like
reptilian until aliens and also Auto Tone Dutch people so native
Dutch people and they have a name now the micro mafia moc are
over the macro mafia. And this is this is taking place, and the
cops say we don't see this lightening up anytime soon. How
does that happen with no gun laws and everything so strict
and all organized and ordered?
The big question that's the fallacy of use the word again,
fallacy of gun control. Yeah, you don't get a gun but everyone
else does. Yeah, please have guns. Criminals have guns but
you don't get one.
Let's take a quick break here. I want to do some other video.
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husband now this you should be proud you have such a giving and
terrific audience. I'm proud to be part of the no agenda family.
Merry Christmas, Angela Canberra. So that was very nice.
That yeah, that is that route is fantastic. Really is
another one I was looking at last year spreadsheet for the
same time. I noticed a lot of names on there that are not I'm
not seeing anymore. I think we lose people.
Oh, I'm sure we do. And I think I think your assertion is right
I think people get sucked back into the news than the
mainstream news it's it's become somewhat compelling. And you
regular rehydration. Come on.
It's you watch the news. And if you're not like if you don't
have to do this show or you're you don't listen to the show,
this show, which tries to identify the the gotcha memes,
you could easily just drift back into just the life of the
sinner. That's what it is. I'm a sinner, I tell you, life of a
sinner. You're just watching this crazy guys do all work for
somebody else. That double dipping guy knows how much money
some of these people making that and by the way, when I saw this
crap, all these guys with the same talking points. I realized
that that's why some of these people got these jobs. I mean,
it's like, was it Woodward? Bernstein? Woodward, you know,
who was Navy intelligence and they moved him in because
somebody suggested he worked there and some there's a lot of
no talents. Especially at Fox. That pay get paid quite a bit.
look good. They all got the right haircut.
Some of them do. I think a few of them. I'm not going to. This
may be a little bit going out on a limb. I think some of the
women at Fox are just really good look and trannys
Wow, and you complain about my cameras.
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figure this out for yourself by the way, just think about it
when you see one of these guys.
Very disparaging name by the way you transsexual that's fancy
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On this down to December all the December shows are down from
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the Van Allen belt here we go.
I was going to say that NASA has discovered a new Radiation Belt
another one outside of the Van Allen belt or at the at the edge
and it was funny to read that they have a they actually
address the Van Allen belt issue with it is Orion went through
the Van Allen belt which of course was only previously done
by the Apollo missions when they went to the moon. And and they
had and there's specifically about the Van Allen belts I put
it in the show notes. It's a good their version of why this
is not a hoax. They even say it. Don't people think this is a
hoax. We never went through the Van Allen belt. I don't know why
you have to protest it that much. But okay. Radiation levels
traveling 15 times farther into space and the International
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majority of EFT one will take place inside the Van Allen belt
clouds of heavy radiation that surrounds earth. No spacecraft
built for humans has passed through the Van Allen belts
since the Apollo mission. And even those only pass through the
belts because they didn't linger. I just thought that was
a cute way of saying it. There's your scientific answer as to why
it was okay for the Apollo missions because they didn't
linger in the belts they did not linger and they went through and
I got this email the secure email. So I this is an anonymous
on the last show you were talking about missing Saturn V
blueprints. And this is part of the what makes the original Moon
Landing so complicated. So it makes you suspicious
among other things, and we're sure granted baffles me because
on the one hand while you're suspicious about this, you have
no issues with but Moon bases.
So no because we have we have this is just about the original
moon landings. Okay. I presume that that we have figured out
how to not linger in the belts. No, this is just a part of the
all the original Moon Landing video material has been erased,
unfortunately. But also all of the blueprints have disappeared
of the the actual rocket the lander all of this stuff is
gone. It's just sad, sad, sad don't doesn't help with people
who are of conspiratorial minded thinking.
No, I wouldn't think so. Because it seems to me, and I'm not of
the conspiratorial mind except when it comes to the some of the
women on Fox. It seems to me that this is one of the most
historic events in the history of mankind. This is like
Christopher Columbus.
I mean, we can save every tweet yet. We don't have the the Bloop
I should say Saturn five I should say not V five. You
should have corrected me on that. The Saturday
I kind of zoned out go on.
Sure you do. But 15 years ago, I was working on an IT contract at
the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama. This is
where the Saturn five was designed. The IT department had
just moved into an old building that had previously housed
engineering. Now the story I was told is that when engineering
left to move into the new headquarters, they left behind
many old filing cabinets including the kind used to store
large drawings. You know the kind it needed the space and
called engineering to come and get the cabinets engineering
said the cabinets were no longer needed and could be disposed
off. They were hauled out to the dumpster. A few weeks later, a
frantic engineer came back asked In the whereabouts of the old
cabinets and said they contain rocket and spacecraft designs
from the 50s and 60s, too late, they were gone. I think this,
this answers the question.
That is the biggest bogus story I've ever heard. Oh, yeah, it
just throw it away. Now I don't think so then by the way, it's
not as though people don't do this. And I'm reminded of a
friend of mine, who used to work at Dell publishing. And so he's
going out, he's going home, and he's noticing that dude goes, or
he's at a warehouse or something. Whatever the case,
he's noticing these, these guys taking piles and piles of
artwork and throwing it in the dumpster. Original alley oop
cartoons, all kinds of book cover cartoons, not cartoons,
but oil paintings that they use in book covers, like Hitchcock
mysteries and the rest. And so he asked the guy by psi are
throwing this stuff out. We're not just what good is it? So he
scrounge as much as he could to fill his trunk and his back seat
full width would probably amounts to a couple $100,000
worth of stuff. If he was to auction it off. He gave me about
four pieces, including a nice Hitchcock car. Cool. And it's
just as this happens, it's like I was at Tech TV. And I was
walking around and there was a big giant box of tapes. And I
looked at it said silicone on spin. I said, What's this?
Because that's the first couple years of silicone spin. Why?
What are you doing with it? We're throwing it out. And the
TV people are notorious for throwing stuff out. And so I
said, I'll take it, I took it home, it's in the basement.
Yeah, one day you're going to be found delved under a mountain of
crap, including these tapes.
It's in the basement. Anyway, the point is that it actually
doesn't surprise me that someone would be so careless, not
thinking clearly. For example, the artwork, I suppose you
couldn't sell the Dell artwork, because it was probably still
owned by the artists. They use. Most people steal stuff from
artists. And they can't really sell it because the artist owns
it. So they just throw it out, instead of giving it to the
employees or whatever. Just giving it to bums on this chair.
I don't know what you do with it. Whatever the case is, I
think it's possible. But it seems to me that if I was
working anywhere around there, I grabbed those plans. Personally,
I'd love to have some old I think
I think they just did not know that they were in there. I don't
think anyone looked at the plans. I just tossed them out.
That's probably true. Dominique Strauss Kahn made a kind of the
story. Yeah, that's I'm done. Yeah. Yeah. You just mock me.
All right.
I didn't mock you. I thought it was I was trying to explain how
this could possibly happen. Now how they why they erased the
tapes of the moon landing even though it's one of
them. Oh, you said it yourself. Television. People are careless,
careless. Dominique Strauss Kahn, is set to become head of
the National Bank of Ukraine.
Holy crap. 10.5 To the day
think anybody needs needs to be made whole somehow. Hey, man, I
will put you back at the bottom of the rung here there.
We're really sorry about that. Hold on your main thing that
didn't really happen, you know, but we had to get Christine
Lagarde and you see Fifi Lagarde. Now we're really sorry
punishment. It could also be Victor you should you Shenko
which will be even funnier. But we'll see. Poroshenko the
President has now instructed Ukrainian Secret Service to
crack down on media outlets criticizing the country's
government because of course they are receiving funding from
Russia and have a special anti Ukrainian mission which is the
Neo imperialist who want to destabilize Ukrainian state from
within and they can only be anti state elements and spies have
Kremlin's fifth column.
Yeah, yeah, that sounds right.
It does. It does sound does sound right. And we have our own
interesting changes here. In our media space. i It's kind of it's
become an obsession just to keep looking what sheer drive my car
and ER is doing. And we had, we already knew he had hired Andy
Carvin. He is the
the side wanted to bring this up. How Yeah, your buddy. Yeah,
he had, of course, Andy Carvin who calls himself a news disc
jockey by tweeting and retweeting tweets, which to me
is completely useless. I really don't know he was heralded I
think he took the NPR buyout didn't wasn't there a buyout he
had they were trying to get rid of people have no idea it's
possible. So he has started a social media reporting team. For
first look media, which is now being hosted on medium. And
they're called they're calling themselves reported ly reported
dot L Y. And because it's on medium, they have an RSS feed.
So I'm,
I'm, yeah, good luck, dad. We got anything on there.
No, there's nothing on there. But they're introducing
themselves. He has the so he's hired this team, and this is
Marina Petrillo, who on December nights at the view from Italy,
and talking about how great this is going to be. There's no other
place I want to be right now. And this is what really, really
brought
my friend from what are you doing? Nothing I'd be hit a
button. Oh.
Andy put together a team that relies on professionality
experience and a passionate love for social journalism, which
we're calling native journalism, but also have on diversity and a
touch of quirkiness, community service context, Discovery
presents narration begin of being
this guy really has a line of bull crap here comes
being a flexible experience and caring team will hopefully
enable us to be where we are more needed. We're a startup.
We're a band
Holy crap.
I know. You're not a band.
You are nine repeat after me. And have a band of people
they know they they think that like the rock and roll you see
Yeah, no, that's what he did a rock and roll on. Yeah, it's
total bull crap. Well, this is the kind of thing that happens
when people get
so kind of self aware and in a mega that kind of may make Louis
in the in the Netherlands we have a saying for this. You'd
like the Dutch sayings, don't you? I do over at parts of tilt.
Which means listed up so high to get on the horse that he's going
to fall off on the other side.
Well, I'm going to point the finger at set you know the one
of the I think the top show on Fox now is Megan Kelly's new
show. She took over from from O'Reilly as the top
vote getter. Okay, ratings ratings got it. Ratings is
what I meant. And so she's getting kind of full of herself
in a very awkward way. And you wouldn't have this clip is that
to me and Kelly off script, this is the show she's now decided, I
guess to become either a rap artist or a performance artist
Megan Kelly. Yeah, our she's, she's trying to be a word jazz.
It's like word jazz. So she's going from one segment to the
next. And I know this wasn't on the prompter. And here's her
talking.
Already the President's taking some heat for praising the
transparency of this move. This is an important milestone and
transparency. This is the if you like your plan, you can keep
your plan guy. I'm not an emperor. I'm not a king. I don't
have the authority to do this immigration move. Obviously, we
didn't also the Benghazi talking points and we could go on.
Oh, she's got a cadence going on. I like it. Yeah, it's rap.
This is good. He's I'm a bitch. I'm a lover. I'm a wife. I'm a
mother should do that she can do
what is the point of this? And is this is really straying away
because she was trying to do a little more straight news that
you know, kind of with a lot of interviews kind of interview
oriented news show but now she's throwing and stuff like this was
just lopsided, you know, partisan to horrible and
horrible, horrible, horrible. She's really gone off the deep
end. And I barely smiles anymore. She's just got this
grimace. Yes.
You know, as you know, what's next? Her looks are gonna go.
Yeah, yeah, it's I think it's already happening. Her hair is
getting a little
her hair. This last time was stringy. Right. It was very
stringy. I think and I don't think it's hurtful. I think the
makeup people. She's got to be a hater. Hell on Wheels. Just
shows up. Yeah.
Oh, man is not Kelly again, is here. She
comes on to make it look like you guys didn't do a very good
job with me last time. I saw it. Right, right. Right. Right,
right. Yeah, that should go after the crew and a little bit
lighter, funny. And next thing you know, she's gonna look like
hell on the TV.
There was a really cool report that came out. That was if
there's some other data that I'm still looking for, that is
involved with this particular report. And I heard about it on
NPR and I had to clip the their version of the story. One of the
things that is always interesting to me is how me when
it comes to vaccinations, and I want to make sure everyone knows
I'm not an anti Vaxxer. Now I am
as a destroyer, we should have gotten I should have gotten a
clip for this. I haven't we're going to talk about what I'm
going to do. I'll
I'll I'll tell you. We I think there's certain vaccines that
are unnecessary and Certainly the amount that is pumped into
kids early on that certainly begs a lot of a question. And
now of course, we the CDC has come out and said, Oh, anyone
who's going to make these Ebola vaccines we are indemnifying you
but in general, the pharmaceutical countries
companies are indemnified. And what is always interesting to
me, and we've discussed this before, is if you if your
children are vaccinated, and they're all good to go, and
there is an unvaccinated or poorly vaccinated child at
school, why is that child banned when you're shouldn't have to
worry because you know, he does vaccinate immunity, right? You
would think that that is not a problem. And this report really
made me think about what is going on here and what the truth
is and where we really are at with contagious diseases.
researchers asked parents this question, if they knew a quarter
of the children in their own child's daycare was not fully
vaccinated, would they take their child out? Research
Scientist Sarah Clark was surprised by the answer. Over
70% of parents said that they definitely or probably would
consider doing that a big deal. She says since changing daycare
isn't easy for the parents or the child. And here's another
surprise 41% of parents said children who aren't up to date
with vaccines should be excluded, kind of like public
school. If you don't have them, you're not getting in. But
that's the basic there's the numbers. If I found out that 25%
of the children were not vaccinated, I'm taking my kid
out of daycare if a kid should not be allowed in school if
they're not vaccinated, but for many
parents, the bigger surprise may be this. The fact is federal
health data show that one in four children actually aren't
fully vaccinated, not because parents subject to the vaccines,
they just didn't make it to the doctor on time, whether it's due
to not being able to get an appointment or family life just
got too hectic or they didn't really know they were supposed
to come in. Well, those four months shots get delayed until,
let's say five and a half or six months. It's the one year mark
when vaccines are most often missed after routine. well baby
visits aren't as regular vaccines like D tap diptheria,
tetanus, pertussis, measles and chickenpox. Clark says the
findings should start a much needed conversation between
parents and daycare providers about vaccine policies and how
to change them to make sure children stay healthy.
I think this is a watershed report when you win the 25% of
children not being vaccinated not because parents are anti
vaccine, because they just forgot, didn't have time. Maybe
whatever the reason is, when that's an average, you look at
Montana. 80% of children are under vaccinated. This is
rampant, that children in the United States are really not up
to the vaccination level that people believe they are yet we
don't have all these crazy outbreaks of all this stuff
going on. To me, this means only one thing it truly is a
government program to ensure that you are shot up with
whatever they want you to be shot up with. And it's not
affected right now. But it's going to come. The numbers are
just astounding. Chicago 60% not vaccinated properly under
vaccinated. Why aren't we all dying?
Well, this herd immunity would be the reason whatever the case
I think is an interesting guy thought you were gonna bring
bring up the fact that this latest flu vaccine not only
doesn't work the CDC pocalypse shit what happened. What
happened. I just dropped something. It's something
important. Yeah, the preamp. Anyway, it also drops the mic
and I gotta reset it. So we can wait. Spit in a prayer. The CDC
apologized for the shot. And the Italians took the shot off the
market. And
we had that on the last show
we had I know he did. Did I mentioned that everyone I talked
to who's got the flu is sick had had the had the shot just before
they caught the flu? Yeah. Oh, yes, you did. Well, I'm still
hung up on it again, got a better story?
No, I mean, are you insinuating something that maybe they tried
to make us all sick?
I just think they're careless. Because ever since they this is
the problem with indemnification. Yes. And I
think it's the overlooked problem of indemnification. And
this way. We brought us up on the show before the reason that
I don't think it's a good idea to use gamma radiation to
irradiate our food supply, even though it would eliminate E coli
and a lot of other things that are killing people.
Pasteurization you mean, no gamma radiation where you would
go to be way beyond pasteurization. It's just
who is doing this and where's this being talked about?
nobody's doing it because it's been talked about to death when
they started to introduce it. In the United States, it's being
done in Europe and other parts of the world. And it's but it's
not pasteurization. It's they take these got these big
machines and then a gamma radiate the product as it goes
through which is harmless to the to AIDS. It's not, it's not a
radiation that makes it radioactive. Okay, it just kills
everything. And it would kill every whole lot and in sterilize
everything sterilized stuff, and would kill you if you walk
through it. And but it's an old processes, not unknown, and it's
used in some countries for certain things, but I've and I
know it people in the United States Oh god, it's radius, you
radiate. It's radioactive. You're gonna kill it. You did.
So they're all scared to skittish about it, because they
don't understand the math because they're all so science
oriented. They believe in global warming, but they don't get
this. That's another argument to make be made. And I'm against
it, not because it's not a great idea. But because once it's
done, nobody gives a shit after that. They're gonna be throwing
the meat in the dirt. You know that dog shit in there. Who
cares? Yeah, cuz it'd be the gore and this is what happens
when he when you indemnify and this is a form of
indemnification. If you think about it, it purifies
everything. You indemnify the vaccine makers, so they nothing
they do is everything they do and no matter how crappy the
product too bad, and so they're all indemnify. So you end up
with these mediocre products. They're coming up because they
don't have to worry about it. Who cares. And
by the way, there is a fund, which the Federal Register
publishes it. I think every month, there is a fund that pays
victims of vaccination incidents. So it's kind of a
double whammy. The government pays for that. Yeah, and a lot
of money. And there's a lot of you know, of course,
you have to die off scot free. So they don't know. They don't
have to do any quality control. Right. Yeah, live vaccines. What
did that batch it's all live VAs grew and who cares. But there
isn't, it may get it out. We got to get it out. And that's my,
that would be my pet peeve. That clip. This is one of the
funniest stories. Because this poor guy who's a professor, I
guess, at Harvard, Harvard Business is going to be the
goat. He's going to his life's going to be ruined, hopefully.
And this is the story that was on the today or the Good Morning
America, whatever the one on CBS is, and this is Edelman versus
the Chinese.
It doesn't need more setup or is that does that well, now you'll
get this Oh, I know about this guy. Yes. I know that he is a
Harvard professor. Yeah.
Boston Globe reports on a Harvard associate professors
food fight. Benjamin Edelman threatened legal action because
he was overcharged for dollars for Chinese takeout. The
restaurant admits it's admitted its website prices were
outdated. Adelman fired off at least five emails to the
restaurant he wrote, I suggest that Sichuan garden, refund me
three times the amount of the overcharge. Later he wrote, the
more you tried to claim your restaurant was not at fault, the
more determined I am to seek a greater sanction against you.
He's serious. Yes, Mr. Edelman needs a chill pill. Very
serious.
What is his knees? It was
chill pill or chill pill. Okay,
I didn't hear what she said. Let's do this. I've seen this
story and I ignored it. Now I
couldn't possibly ignore it. It was too funny. But the guy is
like making a federal case out of a $4 equity Do you could have
got the four bucks back I'm sure by walking back.
But the I think I think funnier are all these emails that come
out of this clear promotional move by obviously not by Sony,
whoever is in charge of promoting the Seth Rogen
Christmas movie about Kim Jong Kim Jong Hoon? Yeah, this is
that I think that parts work but now it's just the emails to
bring down really just a couple of main people say that Angelina
Jolie is unfit minimally talented, spoiled brat this is
the way that producers and movie studios and television this
shows Yep, just so you know, this is exactly what but by the
way, where Where are the women yelling misogyny. I mean this is
if this is the culture of Hollywood which it is why is Why
is no one up in arms about this
they're all giggling I don't know because some the whoever
decides that something should be targeted. Didn't target it.
Feeling sorry for Sony. I'm not sure exactly what
no Got Sony it's it's the what is it? rootin Amy Pascal, a bit
of Scott Rutan is big time producer. Yes. And then of
course they they brought in the the race racism you know? Okay
yeah doesn't read this to you per scholar according to
BuzzFeed, which you know is all it's a promotional outlet at
BuzzFeed. Peskov who is the CO chairman of the studio, asked
rootin for advice before going to an Obama fundraiser hosted by
DreamWorks Animation had Jeffrey Katzenberg, particularly what
she should ask the President at this quote stupid Jeffery
breakfast. The the answer was maybe he'd like to finance some
movies I doubted was the reply. Should I ask him if he liked
Django with replying 12 years or the butler or Think Like a Man
so the the racial undertones are all in there.
Yeah, that's Hollywood for you. Yeah,
that's exactly what it is. That's exactly what
the biggest fuss about this stuff when you get a hold of
these memos. I think maybe there's more of these big
companies should be hacked and get those memos I laugh riot
Yeah,
I really enjoy it. I think people should know that this
this is exactly how these how Hollywood operates. And I would
say absolutely racist.
Yeah, racist, sexist.
Bingo. Boom. Shakalaka
is totally totally
okay, I think that's about all I have. It looks like Brennan said
no proof torture produced useful info. That's interesting. No,
Brennan
took that site. Oh, that's gotta be gotta make the old ticks on.
Hayden go crazy. Oh, yeah, they'll be Blinken in Lincoln.
And
this is war, baby. Now it's all out war. Uh huh. The only other
thing you
know, one of the I did hear one argument from one of the Stooges
that bought off that it was it would there was a couple of
arguments that that actually got my attention because they were
kind of creative. And this one guy, and I can't remember which
of the many shows that these guys are on what show he was on.
But he says why none of this makes any sense. Why would they
be doing this for all those years? If it wasn't working?
Which was just the logic, it was just a logical question. Hmm.
And of course, my answer would be both because they're sadist
and they just like they like doing it. Yeah, they like
beating guys up. There's are there are people out there? Who
are genuine sadists that like to beat up and kill people? That's
my, that'd be my response to that. But if there was, if that
response wasn't available, it's you know, what are you going to
say? There? Maybe they're just wasting money that there's $81
million contract psychologist gotten? Who knows? It's just it
was I think it was a waste of time. Well,
I'm sure there will be some crises that will probably be
averted just in time for Christmas. And we'll all be
witnessing that. Try not to get yourself sucked in. It's really
not good. And we will be here to
don't believe anything. i The listeners, the best listeners,
we have the ones who say I don't watch mainstream media, and
that's pretty much wanna watch something, go watch the
congressional hearings, you get a lot more out of that. And
there's a
lot of there'll be some repeats, but there's definitely some good
ones on on C span. Currently, though, this will this will
continue. And well, well. We'll have more on Sunday show. Please
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you weather the storm there. John. Everything seems
to be calming down at least for now. I think the worst of it's
over for us. Is it heads east.
Excellent. And
we'll see you for hanging from my
roof. Coming to you from FEMA Region six here and the capital
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